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Moby Dick Chapter Eight

5 Minutes in Church History

04:59 min | 4 months ago

Moby Dick Chapter Eight

"Welcome to five minutes in churches hosted by Dr. Stephen Nicholson where we take a little break from the presence to go exploring the past travel back in time as we look the people events, and even the places that shaped the story of Christianity this is our story family history. Let's get started. Welcome back to another episode of Church history. Last week we were talking about the pulpit that Latin Word Putnam, and that object that appears in so many churches. Well, we also find the pulpit, appearing in of all places that great American novel by Herman, Melville none other than moby. Dick Moby Dick has one hundred and thirty five chapters. They have fascinating names like the shark massacre and interesting names, two of the chapters in particular come early in the book that have great names chapter nine is entitled the sermon. Sermon, Chapter Eight is entitled The pulpit so this is Melville's description of a pulpit of a fabled new. England church, it's sort of a conglomerate picture that Melville is putting together. And of course they are about to go out to sea questing after the great white whale, and before they go, all the sailors will show up that. Sunday in church to hear that sermon before they're sent off to see, and they might not come back again well. This is chapter eight on the pulpit. Let's read Melville's description. He tells us how he's sitting there. In the Pew of the Church and Father Maple comes in, and then he starts walking towards the pulpit. Melville says like most old fashioned pulpits. It was a very lofty one and since. Our stairs to such a height would by its long angle with the floor seriously constrict the already small area of the chapel, the architect it seemed had acted upon the hint of Father Maple, and finish the pulpit without a stairs, substituting a perpendicular that is straight up and down side ladder like those used in mounting ship from a boat at sea. The wife of a whaling captain had provided the chapel with a handsome pair of red ropes for this latter. Halting for an instant at the foot of the ladder, and with both hands, grasping the ornamental knobs of those red ropes, Father Maple cast a look upwards, and then with a truly sailor, like, but still reverential dexterity hand over hand, mounted the steps as if ascending the main top of his vessel. Melville continues, nor was the pulpit itself without a trace of the same seat taste that had achieved the latter. It's paneled front was in the likeness of shifts, bluff bows and the holy. Bible rested on a projecting piece of scroll work fashioned after a ship's fiddle headed beak. What could be full of more meaning Melville asks. For the pulpit. Is Ever this Earth's foremost part? All the rest comes in its rear. The pulpit leads the world from thence. It is the storm of God's quick. Wrath is first descried, and the bow must bear the earliest brunt. From thence it is the god of breezes. Fair or foul is I invoked for favourable winds. Yes, yes, the world's a ship on its passage out not a voyage complete, and the pulpit is its prow. Well, that's from the pen of Melville. What a fascinating line he gives us. Did you hear it in that last paragraph I read and the pope it leads the world. Well. That's chapter eight. The pulpit from Melville's great novel. Some have called I. Know Dr Sprawl often called it the great American novel Moby Dick or The whale. And I'm Steve Nichols thanks for listening to five minutes in Church history. For more information or to listen to past episodes, please visit five minutes in Church history dot com.

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Episode #1701 The New Phil Hendrie Show

The World of Phil Hendrie

39:30 min | 6 months ago

Episode #1701 The New Phil Hendrie Show

"Phil emery her for our backstage. Pass the World Philemon show backstage pass before we listened to the show today just to do our pitch for a backstage pass which is a subscription to our website. And it ain't you know I mean we're asking for a month or year you can do either a month subscription or year and you get quite a bit for your money now. The backseat stretch backstage. Pass nice one film backstage. Pass monthly's nine ninety nine and I think a yearly as seventy to ninety nine but we have a fifteen percent off sale on our yearly which I think brings it down to about What is it seventy sixty seven? Something it's less than five bucks a month or thereabouts so Whichever one you choose remember you get thirty five to forty thousand hours of classic radio film show going back to Minnesota. We're going back well over twenty years now and We have Miami tapes. We have our before syndication. Kfi Los Angeles tapes ever syndication. We got the podcast that we do now. Our debt cast we have all of our video casts are collected their archived back to about two thousand twelve and we also have some plastic video. Cast that we did a lot of things. I can't go into it now. You'll see it there and the Archive. It's under either category. It's under either date or under characters so the whole thing is a beautiful thing and I certainly suggest that you avail yourself of this Because frankly we say it and we made it the best deal online other than porn the world famous Phil Hendrie show Website Phil Hendrie show dot com. Okay guys welcome. Today's show it as an encore show from the twenty third of April twenty eighteen going back two years and as I mentioned if you're watching us on the video cast you're watching the video recording you'll notice it's kind of dark in the studio. Let's because we burned out bulb here on a one of these big studio lights we had so like half my faces in the dark like kind of a phantom of the opera thing but anyway this one is from the twenty third of April twenty. Eighteen tells the panel that he wants to buy a boat so he calls who's Got West Winston local yacht club. Commodore who is illiterate? Okay later Jay. Santos thinks it's humiliating. Having our elections influenced by a quote pinch faced slab like Putin. There goes Jay. So let's see what this is all about here man as we give today's encore show Monday the well. This is from April. The twenty thirty it money. Today is Thursday April twenty third two thousand eighteen here on the world famous Phil Hendrie show. So you're you're buying a boat. I'm thinking of buying a boat. Yeah that's interesting. I'm thinking of buying a boat and the reason why I'm thinking of buying a boat is because I you know Mike. I grew up on a sailboat. Here you feel here. We go with this. You grew up on a sailboat. Your father owned a sailboat. You know your father owns sailboat. Feeling you went sailing on the sailboat. We know that. Yes there'd be trying to live on our son. Did I say I lived on the sailboat? I said that I grew up with my dad sailboat. What does that mean you grew up with your dad sale? Now he he's talking about. He grew up around the sailboat. I know that sounds sounds like your group. Maiming grew up. I grew up my father at us. Welcome to the show folks by the way I didn't know we'd started. I'm sorry Phil so this show really good me. We'll try and do it better I. Hey Hey wait. I grew up around sailing as a young man until my father. Mother got divorced but my father had the sailboat for years. And Yeah we went down and we seal and I thought hey you know. I live near the ocean. There's a harbor right down the street. What the Hell am I doing what you're what do you think you're some kind of David. I think she's a cap and a half or something not going for Moby Dick Dick and everything. Hey wait a minute. I don't like those little asides fell but watch it. Will you didn't talk about Moby Dick. It's a book man. It's a book a Guy wrote a book you've never heard of Moby Dick. The book never mind you check poll. So what are you trying to tell me? You're some hey skip work. I'm just saying I think it would be really fun to to relax go onto sailboats. Do you remember anything about ceiling. Phil I understand. I don't know anything about a very specific. Yes there is a lot of specificity to well. What are you know about it man? Nothing any of you you all you out there. I was in the army. Okay well what do you Bet Ceelo? Yeah I know how to sail. I don't know I'm not going to take on a thirty foot sailboat. And settled by myself right off the bat but the people that I know friends we can go out and adding. It'd be a lot of fun. Let's talk about price. She you know you're not the richest guy on earth but I bet you anything. I could find a used sailboat. What kind of a sailboat did you father half? Was this a mustard. And you didn't have. Your Dad had an old one that had been. You know like that. Have been what wasn't used as a frigate or something. What do you mean a frigate? No it was a thirty thirty. Three foot road sloops sailboat. Had had a woodhall what it had a woodhall. It had a teak wood teak deck. This is back when you still saw wooden sailboats. You know what do you want from me? They don't have wooden sailboats anymore. I don't know yeah. I don't either to be honest with you. I don't I have no idea. I probably not probably having as fiberglass or some kind of kind of material. I haven't seen a wooden seal but by God I thought the other Night Franken Arbor watching key. Largo you know the movie key Largo General Key Largo damage mortgage yes. Y'All my ear. What do you do that? I don't know if the man can hear me. I'm not a hundred and fifty years old. I don't key Largo Talk. What what do you mean the movie? What is she talking about? Have you seen the movie? Key Largo yeah the one with a bogart. Yes now that movie featured I think that film featured bogies own power the inboard the sent the santee any Tanna. The what was it the Santana that was the name of Humphrey Bogart's boat movie in real life. That's the name of his vote in real life and he had it right out of Newport beach as a matter of fact and interesting story. All Right Phil. We've got to settle in for one of his stories. Okay well excuse me. I won't do that then. Filipov check the levels. Can they're all over the board? Yeah I got anyway so we're glad to have you with US folks. Sorry I'm talking around you and above your heads and through and I don't think we've been seeing is over the audiences head believe you. Well I don't think so either but I don't think I've acknowledged the audience in. Thanks for being with me folks and thanks for being with us all last week during our Art Bell. Roll out of people like that. Got A lot of good feedback on it. We did and who knows. We may do something similar like that in the future. Now what's up with Tricastin? Who knows Madison's jumping all over the place real jumping all squirrelly video tonight's kind of jumpy so we apologize for that folks and maybe I moved to fast? Who knows I was having a hard time keeping up with Phil deliver an interesting little sketch? I don't know how many of you were here for the pre show but Phil did sketch you know what you know sketch. Yeah I know all right Phil just anyway. And he pretended he was the tri caster computer giving himself a hard time. You know well I thought it was funny Excuse me there's no coffee mate. Well then make it but once you go make some coffee so we will. Yeah so we hope that we can repeat that a fun fun thing. That was our course. I don't want anybody to die. Things going to die for you to do to Jim. Who's GonNa die if you didn't have something similar? Nobody nobody don't worry about it. Don't worry about it so we were happy to do. It was a lot of fun and all of those of course are available at podcast. One on soundcloud are available on the free feeds that exist on those two platforms We keep it free for a day and then everything goes behind our pay wall here at the Phil Emery show website but as I mentioned the platform the podcast. One for instance has our our our podcast. Hillary show podcast. This little thing that we do. And it's there for a number of weeks before it again retreats Find shelter goes behind the pay wall. Now the whole reason why fills bringing up this boat thing is because you WanNa talk to West Winston over there at the challenge. Yacht Club Right. I do in general TACO. Say That again but I'm GonNa get him on the phone and a general talk to Him. Get Him on the phone in general. Yeah okay this is what it sounds like. But I'm just going to Westminster please. It's just a a eight but Dickman. Why don't we do this on the air? Yeah why are we doing a full a West? Fill Henry yet. Let me talk to him. Yeah General Show. What's it look like? Yeah well let me tell you something. Henry's here yeah. He wants to buy a boat. He thinks he's skipper frank or something anyway. I have the phone please. Hi Westfield Henry can I put you on the air? Can I put you on the air? Not Right now. What are you doing? Laundry was gonNA teach a washboard. You're only kidding west. Hold on West High General Shaw. He wants to put you on the Air Sun on the air. Why are we doing this? Now Sh- yeah ought by on the air don't you? It's a term it meets West. I'd like to put you on the air. Yes or no going on the air means let me West. Hi Margaret Great. Now we've never met you right here. Thanks Wes I'll do a great. You disconnected but I didn't just grabbed it. He grabbed what you asses when the guy when we get the Guy Back. I talked to him. You understand wait a minute son. Don't call me and ask smile when you say that General Shaw when we get them back but all right lanes busy. It's probably trying to call us back. This is West Winston folks. He's the commodore at the channel. Jiahd club down the street. I'm going to ask him about is what I'm going to ask. The guy about is is a purchasing a boat. I know they sell them. Don't they put a lot of boats sales over there to the boat basin Mr over there to to the boat yard? Yeah what about the boatyard? What about the boatyard? I've been to the boat yard way Ronald Fees There. But it's just one of its wondered if you've been a boatyard. I've been to a boat yard. Yeah he's in his car. He's going home right now but we can talk. Hey West Yeah. There's fill Henry and Michigan. Get High. Is Phil Hendrie? How are you buddy? Hi I'm very good. How are you? I'm fine? I wanted to talk to you west. We haven't met. I know you're the commodore there at the Channel. Islands right yes Have Not met I. I'm interested in purchasing a boat. Okay you want to power boat you WANNA sale book. I'm interested in purchasing sailboat. What size How many mass you know how. Well A sloop single master. Maybe thirty thirty five foot okay. Well we've got some litter We've got the Luna Journey and We've got a couple of cows Those are the brand. The names of the The manufacturers you'd WanNa come over and take a look at him I guess. Yeah when do you Are you there every day? I'm here every day. I'm here a couple of hours a day. Now you get a boat with a again. It's a sailboat right sailboat. Okay so that has a big sale and okay. Now the the mast. How many are there on the sloop? Yes sir what's the single best single mashed okay We were very informal. Phil I need to tell you that. that the yacht club burned former. We don't adhere to a lot of the old ways Well some of the terminology that a lot of the old timers insist on okay. I had a father that sailed. I learned You know they were pretty hard asked about it. Everybody wants to show the the big sailor you know. They WANNA show up for it. Hey look at me. I've got a friend of mine. Mr Andria Sale Buddy says hey a winch in that mainsail sheet and I'm like you know I mean this rope. Oh he goes nuts. Yeah well so. You're saying you guys don't do that no we. I don't I don't know about anybody else but I'm not going to have somebody threaten me because I didn't say line so I mean some sheet. What's the what you said? The main so she. What is that a bunch of ropes? It's the lines that are attached to the boom. That essentially they control the boom. Well Okay if you WANNA call it. There are a bunch of ropes that are tied to the thing that comes to match. You know and you can if you can. You can tighten it or you can loosen it you went. You went down very if you want to do what you do. Mr Henry fills using the right medical terminology right. I mean but like I said and I'M NOT ATTRIBUTING THIS TO MR Henry. But we've got a lot of these guys who think they want to go you know let let's put the. Let's we're running before the wind. I heard a guy say that the other day okay. Speaking of that does the do most of these come with spinnakers they come with what you mean the big balloon type sale. That's the big balloons. I've seen that. Yeah it's a big balloon. Ask you come to the balloon sale. You call them the balloon sale. The one that Spinnaker hey look. Westfield wants to use those. Isn't that what he's supposed to do? When when you're over here at the Channel Islands Yacht Club Ville I gotTa tell you. It's all different so when you say. Hey they gotta Guy People Are GonNa look at you like you came right out of some freak. Show if you say spinnaker and what. What else do you call it? They have another word. For it. Just the spinnaker is what I call it. I mean do you. The different sales that run for the You mean oh boy. This guy was so when you the Genoa Jib on the triangle sales. Yeah we got that what you're talking about. Of course the big. The Big Triangle Sail mainsail. Well you you sound like you're Bob. What's the Guy Staying Bobi Booby Dick Moby Dick? Okay Look Sir. I didn't want to call up an antagonize you? It sounds like you want to get into a thing with me. No no no. I don't forget me I make we make fun of guys do that and I don't mean to make funny. I understand that. But you need to understand communicate a certain way. So the You're talking about the sales at the front of the boat right about okay if you will Is it? That's one thing? I don't know if the Journal there. What is the the French about? I'm not wrong. The French and the back is the stern. Okay I had it reversed. Somebody was saying to me the other day that they had the quote had cleaned missing on the on the bow and looking for it. I said you must be. You must be drinking your breakfast. And he said no up there he said go forward and I said go forward just head up toward the bow. Yeah head up to the bow I should. Why don't you just say about and that's where it was missing I. I'm not even sure where we are right now. So you're looking for a thirty foot sloop. Okay yeah thirty foot sloop filled. You know Bob Hitchcock or Tim Swinson you know my my son Jack I'm afraid I don't Sir. All of those guys are involved in boat sales over here. Tim is Primarily the stink parts you know the the cabin cruisers and then My my son is involved in the The sale of the sailboats And is he sort of on the same page with you? In terms of nautical terms. Well come on over here from guys my son. Hi Hi Tim it's Phil Hendrie. All right So you sell sailboats right. Uh-huh okay and those to the phone. Okay eight Sheffield. Just you know. Tim Turn around for me. Counts Tim's at twelve okay. Let's just wait a minute. Okay all right okay. So Tim I want to buy a sailboat. Okay and you have those and tell me. For instance do they come complete with a set of sales? Okay hold on that. He wants to do it. they have The canvas bag started What do you call? It fell below you. Just you go down into where the people sleep below. GotTa canvas bag is is below. You gotta blow. I didn't say blow I sent. He said boil. Bela Bela the L. I'm sorry it's okay son. I'm sorry no it's it's fine so I'm sorry he's very mortified. So we have it and So what do you WanNa come over tomorrow or let me let me make it for the weekend because this is a work week for me and I'm talking to your son Tim. Yeah he's in charge and that right. Tim Yeah and Kimmel show you around. He'll show you the whole Show you where. The boats were where the boats where we parked where we tie them with ropes. To the to the thing you know. Where were you tie them off? Yeah Okay I the only problem with the way you talk is some people. Think you're trying to show me up. No I would never do that. I just it's the Phil Phil per look around sailboats. With his father we just talks. Oh you're all you know it's like second nature to you No no not at all. I mean. As a matter of fact I have to think I have to remember to use the right terms. Well okay here we. This is what we do You WanNa go see the boat. That's tied up It's got a rope tied to a two big sandwich. Is that what you want to see? Yeah I'd like to see the boats that are tied up with rope. Yeah okay well we'll take you and then you can go downstairs. Go to the front. Go to the back. Look at a little round hole and like Robert Shaw Jaws and then we have the big stick. That has the big thing that makes the wind blow in it and And a balloon sale. For when you're running ahead of the wind. What do you call that running before the wind blowing blowing blowing US forward? That's pretty beans. Yeah okay we got running ahead of the win this okay all right. Tim. I'll see you there then this weekend. Okay it's mine the my phone not yours my phone okay. Just over there and sit down now. Okay hold on for minute fill tim but I'm just get there's your skipper had to got. Oh it's fantastic gates. Lots of membership. Lots of Bama Party this weekend. We're GONNA have our fourth of July party this weekend. you're having a great. You're having a fourth of July this weekend. Yes we are because the fourth of July is coming up. So why wouldn't we be? The fourth of July is in July. This is still. It's still April. But Burke site about we're about the summer the summer months are the month for for any yacht club anywhere in the world and as you know general shot and you fell right across the channel from us and the Channel Islands and we take our boats and we have the wind. Blow them over there or we start up the motor and we drive them there We've always looked to our right and look to our left No no we don't go around with that And then we drive our boats and then we throw down. The you know the mental thing. That's the anchor you know it's the this is what we're trying to do. Are you doing to discard all these nautical terms what we're trying to do is discourage nautical terms so that people can chill out? Relax you can come and go. Hey Wow I love it here. This is a wonderful yacht club. And Oh look look to my left and no one's going to break up break anger over your head director of the way you gotTa talk that way. What what are they? Young men say they are isn't expected that you speak in article fashion. No not at art club. No we say up to the front and get that rope and tie it around that metal thing and and we do it really loud and we do it in your face with it. Oh Yeah Yeah. That's what the Channel Islands Yacht Club is known for. You can go to their real high flute and places like Pacific Carinthian or somebody's joints go down to Balboa Yacht Club or Newport Harbor Yacht Club League but what we do here as we say let's get on our boat and drive it over there to that island park and fro the rope down with a big metal thing you know and you do that on purpose just to just to show people back off okay. We're doing it our way you do it your way. Well it's an interesting Do advertise this in your. Oh Yeah it's it's We put it in the Pamphlet in our manual our membership manual and basically here according right now membership manual. We do not use fancy terms like line. Porthole starboard or port. We don't know what they mean and we don't care anyway when you go to the front of the boat. You're at the front of the boat when you go to the back of your at the back and when you go downstairs that's what you did. You went downstairs. You didn't go. Below ha ha ha and then we put the contraction and that the young man be Elo that blows and Okay so that's so that's I didn't know anything about that honestly I didn't either. I have to tell you a west. Would I was calling. I think I would have gotten better prepared. Oh it's all right we we we run into this all the time all the time so all right so. I'M GONNA come over there on Saturday and talk to talk to my son. Tim My son Tim so Mr Henry Tim. Yeah Okay and he'll be here and Tim is twelve but he's I think he's doing good for twelve and you can tell he's bigger than A lot of twelve year olds but not nothing freaky about him. He's twelve yes he's twelve is he. Is He Can I ask you? Does he have the authority to make a sale? I know he'll come to me with any Offers and that but you walk with him and he'll walk and he'll tell you there's well tell us tim going over here. I'll give you an example. It's not necessarily just grab that describe about. Here's a boat. I start again. He's he's a little nervous. Here's a boat we have. There is the boat and see there's chairs and here's how you start the motor. Then you drive it forward then you back it up. Okay Yeah see nothing fancy nothing fancy nothing no fuss no mice right And Tim how does he know how much the boat ways? How much does that? They sail boat to thirty foot. Lunar S. How much does it way with the big with the big thing with the what they call the Keel is it's GonNa Kill Ya there's a Keel But to I don't know we don't know all right so you but it has a Keel Keel. What's about four So it doesn't tip over capsize. Yeah that's again. You're using the fancy words all right. We'll thanks very much. Okay can go sit back down over there? Okay Foghorn Tim You gotta full. Well that's that sounds like. The boy has some some developmental disabilities. No No. There's nothing wrong with my. Why why would you say that? Well come on. We'll you western. Sounds like the man is having a hard time communicating. No no no he. He talks that way so that people won't think that more of a brain. He's really very intelligent. It just talked to a normal. Yes how are you tim? Hi Tim. This is Margaret. Tim So do you really know about sailboats. No I don't know a lot about fan votes i. I absorbed some things in my telling me to talk as if I was autistic Because he didn't want to draw attention to me with planning a big scholarship. Run this summer. I'll be hitting the big colleges back east. You say are you must be like a child prodigy or something they say that you and I don't know he's the thing about teammates. Thank Sean Timms. Brilliant but he can't wipe his own his own anus. Yes simple things like that so. He's going to be a freshman at Harvard next year but he'll need help wiping. Thank you see later Tim out so I guess he doesn't have to talk to me. No you don't have to talk to Mr Henry Okay. Do do the foghorn strategy very good. I'll see you guys there Saturday. All right good man. That guy cats are way way out there now. I didn't get the idea of the young man. Sounds to me like his son is some kind of a genius that he's trying to keep the lid on until he gets Mukalla. Gpa they picked up. I don't understand. Wouldn't you want people to know all right? You know. Here's the thing? I don't know that that places for you. They got that freak scene there for the Commodore and his son. And they're saying stuff like let's. Let's tie the rope to the boat or whatever. She's very nautical Mr Henry. You probably want that would you ain't like I'm I'm not ishmail. Who's he he's from moby? Dick you jack. S Jack Emphasis asked wait. It ain't like Mr Salt of the sea or whatever the hell you WanNa call me The two years before the mast guy. I don't know Spencer Tracy. Yes specialties. Anyway it's just that I think it's kind of Nice to be around people that kind of her in the life in the culture. You know don't like if you're playing baseball guys in should. I go out to the big pilot dearth. Yeah there you go to the big pilot and throw the round thing. Yeah exactly and the guy may be the greatest pitcher you ever saw off. But he's saying what you say I. I'm a pitcher. I'M GONNA go out. I'm the man that throws the ball instead of pitcher. Yeah see how it sounds stupid. I don't necessarily think that it makes it much easier for me to understand Thank you very much. All God's sake Margaret Quite. Make it everything a big you make everything more difficult you make this world lousy. You know that they're you've putting a line like that from west side story and I thought we'll be right back. World-famous Phil Hendrie show downtown downtown. Gogo we're going to go at downtown. Disco GOGO LAYS AREN'T GONNA BE HALF PRICED PARLAYS and guys viewer slip on loafers. Any kind of health. Kicker half-price midnights special couples dance. The couples dance lasts for two hours and the last couple of standing wins themselves. A cash prize downtown. 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World-famous Phil Emery show continues J Sandison the line from the citizens auxiliary police to join us. Santa's hitching auxiliary police. Yes talking. Hey what's the hold on? What did you do buddy? Sorry I'm Jay screwed it up. Yeah messed it. All up she. Let's try it again. Sorry folks we're doing a live show tonight Jason Other. We cannot just roll back and do things again. People are going to see it anyway and I told you mr I thought I already said I don't want to be on your life. I'm sorry that you're here. That mean. I'm glad you're here but I'm sorry that you're here is Start again but go ahead fill every show and Jay Santos and the citizens auxiliary police wait a minute. We doing again. God Timmy j you understand that. This is a live program all right so just roll it back but get it right to give an AQ- William Welcome back to the Phil Hendrie. Show it's Jason. I'm Jay talk killer. You've got to get going here an awfully sorry Jay but we gotta get going. Well I just. I don't think I apologize to everybody. I don't think he gave me much chance here because I gotta keep going and it is a live show but anyway welcome to our program. We'll dump it later on a you're you're yeah Jay thanks for joining us. I know the Citizens Auxiliary Police is part of you know just about every aspect of American life. You have some opinions that you published in this week's cap bulletin on the trip to Korea by our president president trump on this negotiation of a nuclear-free Korea. Do Sharon 'cause I feel and I think it's very very obvious to a lot of members of the jury please because security is what we do that Mr Trump is walking into a little bit of a trap. You know what we feel that Koreans are you know they just don't guy doesn't strike me as someone who's serious about the the denuclearization and Putin has all the cards the cooking to tell the guy Kim offer a nuclear nuclear deal. I can't say that word nuclear nuclear deal so that trump would be more popular in America and people will vote for him and we'll keep him President general possibilities a pretty some pretty sophisticated. I think don't you I don't know I mean if he If he if he meddled in the election twenty sixteen he's probably GonNa win this one. I wish So you're saying that Putin is going to tell him to go easy on trump's so that they get a nuclear deal signed trump becomes more popular at home and gets reelected president. That is my easy. It's not really a concern. That is what I think. That happen Now but you asked me if I've been worried about that. No I'm not because I happen to support president trump. I'm just saying That I don't like the idea that president trump because the president because Bryson's Slavic do you mean some Slavic? I just being some person. So non-american is influencing everything and we're getting played with and we're getting our hitch twisted around by some slap. Just since I don't mean that in a racially superior way I just mean that we're Americans and we choose Donald Trump free and clear famous jerry which was free and clear. Well one would would like to think that. And whether or not the the elections of two thousand sixteen influenced by the Russians are not the man's been elected President United States that's right. He's brass United States. Right they WANNA know if the campaign colluded with Russia I we. We don't want to get into that. We're talking about twenty eighteen coming up right now. And the fact that President Trump's going to Korea to make it a new nuclear-free peninsula. I think it's great thing and they're GonNa try to Rob Him. Glory by Cowan Candy go easy on him because I want him be fragile. But that's ideally something. Nobody's supposed to know they want to keep that secret. Really WANNA keep a secret but it's not exactly being kept secret right now. There's all kinds of people commenting on it over on twitter facebook and so on and what they're coming on. If I could just tell the audience is is that. There's this idea that Putin is telling Kim he's basically pulling the strings over there. That Korean dailies telling him to go ahead and do whatever trump wants or at least make it look a lot better for trump so that he is insured of reelection. Oh Twenty Six hundred twenty twenty twenty right dic- twenty sixteen. We bite us in two thousand eighteen. Well I mean really it's about twenty eighteen. It's about a Congressional. It's about a congressional elections. So yeah we're trump's GONNA WANNA get reelected. They really want the congressional elections ago good and by making president trump look good in Korea. More Republicans are going to get elected. Now I have to again tell you I'm in favor of that I WanNa have more publicans elected but I don't like the idea of. Hey Guess what in twenty eighteen? The Congress United States remained read because Russian was smarter than a bit American. Didn't something Russian. Call the shots. You say well I know what he's saying. Wait a minute it sounds to me like you are it. Sounds like you would mind someone calling the shots. You just don't like the idea of other Russian. Yeah that's it. Sounds like you talk about a slam when I talked about a slave the Slavic people now. Well it's just uh no. Please don't go down the racial roads and I'm always telling people pushback go down racial highway all right. Let's keep this on equal rights boulevard. 'cause the winter man we get on. Racial Racial Highway. We're on our way toward you. Know In word and Word Avenue. Let's duck it off with a metaphor about the streets. Just trying I understand what you're saying. Jay. We're we don't want is you. Don't want the appearance that you're being racial. But the the fact of the matter is you saying it looks bad when Americans are manipulated by a slave. It looks bad. You said the word twice all right. I won't say the word. I'm sorry I'm just seeing what would be preferable what's preferable country now. Who would be rather manipulate us? Well I mean you'd rather see the England England doing rather see Maybe I would even think France you know. Why would they want to manipulate the whole idea this if I could finish? I'm just saying to see some guy that does that whole entertainment. Hey we're talking to j Santa's I'm sorry I I'm I'm trying to get my thoughts collected. We're talking to Jay Sam to the citizens police who is not necessarily opposed to a US elections being meddled with. He just doesn't like the idea of Slavic Guy. Doing which sounds entirely racial though it really is. I think what we WANNA say as they represent an old way of life and we want someone who represents a new way of life. What if manipulating or mentally elections? That would be better but I gotTa Tell Ya Stings Canadians. I just up. They're not doing anything. You know what Santos I've heard you before. I'm just saying there. Aren't there what their relatives relatives. A binder up there all right. I'm sorry before trying to couch trying to soften your whole attitude. You're Bob Green at the end of the day and you're like people because of the color of their skin baddies dot true. That's not true you don't like people to come to the the skin color. They're saying the color of their skin or whether from if you're talking about slabs manipulating our elections being much worse than English people or Canadians. What does that amount to? Are you trying to tell me that you? Are you telling me that some slab some guys that was Jay Santos of the Citizens Auxiliary Police? What are you guys doing about this? What what are we supposed to do about it? I can do bad. I've alerting people that when president trump goes over to Korea and this Guy Putin who's got the look the guy's face it looks. It looks what it's racially. It looks racially inferior. No I didn't say that well look at the guy's face beans. What he has a sneaky sneaky face. You gotTA SNEAKY. Gisar on him and everything. He'll say man. Just say you ought to publish that as a public assistance onto replacing. We're racist we don't like Black People Mexicans. We don't like slabs who got the Princeton face. What are you talking about? That's what you just said. You said that I say like I said that. I said Putin this slab didn't face and you don't want a slave pinched in face telling us what to do. She's I'm just I'm just trying to cover all the bases. You know what I'm going to get off the air and I'm GONNA have a million messages from people saying you sound like asshole the world over we can we can we. Can we get rid of? Can we get rid of the call? Don't you Jay thank you? You Watch Mr Henry students pulling the strings. But you don't care you don't mind somebody pulling the strings. You just don't like doing it. I wish I would have started this out different if I can. Yeah you better believe it man said. Why do you keep having that guy on? That's the first time he's ever been that blatant about it. That's for sure. World-famous Phil Hendrie show and fill every show DOT COM and. We're back in business here after our weak with art bell again. Thanks for all of your good messages and And compliments in the bill week. We're back don't forget. Of course we have our Friday night. Chances Usual we have If you've missed it. We had a pretty good satiety cinema. Yeah that was interesting that black fist and still up on the on the website to check it out. We'll see you tomorrow. World-famous fill every show executive produced by me Phil Hendrie foresee upper incorporated. All rights reserved on podcast one.

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Episode 41B - Three Man Vs. Nature Stories

The Stephen King Boo! Club

26:24 min | 6 months ago

Episode 41B - Three Man Vs. Nature Stories

"Hello there club listeners. This is Stephen. Indra Sano coming at you with the bonus episode for this week. We were trying to figure out what to do. And what we settled on was a kind of showcase for some of the man versus nature themes across literature. I it's been a hot minute since I've gone to do any sort of reading this program so Phoenix one ahead and suggested some pieces that he wanted me to read so we've got three cool very different selections here and he could not join me for this call. Unfortunately but he did send along his opinion his take on these pieces for me to read on his behalf. Now the other thing that will be happening today Starting today in into the foreseeable future is I am recording live from my girlfriend's closet. I've hung some blankets up. She was nice enough to get some caller. Led's up in here. This is a slightly different recording setup. And I'm used to it. We might be dealing with a little bit more noise in the background. This is my own personal man versus nature environment tail to get so with. That said. We're going to start with travels with Charley by John Steinbeck. This is a direct callback to desperation or rather. Desperation has a direct call back to this very book. Johnny Merrin Ville the Hack writer has decided that he is going to travel across the country with his Harley kind of a loving tribute to this book. We're going to be starting with an excerpt from part one and I will try to let the text speak for itself and then I will speak for Phoenix and then I will speak for me. Labor Day approached the day of truth when millions of kids would be back in school and tens of millions of parents would be off the highways. I was prepared to set out as soon after that as possible and about that time. Hurricane Donna was reported trumping her way out of the Caribbean in our direction on. Long Island's tip. We have enough of that to be highly respectful with a hurricane approaching. We prepare to stand a siege or little bays fairly well protected. But not that. Well as Donna crouch toward us I filled the kerosene lamps activated the hand pump to the well and tied down everything moveable. I have a twenty two foot cabin boat the fair Elaine battened her and took her to the middle of the bay. Put down a huge old fashioned hook anchor and half inch chain and moored her. With a long swing with that rig. She could ride a hundred and fifty mile wind unless her bow pulled out. Donna Sneak Don. We brought out a battery radio for reports since the power would go off if donald struck but there was one added. Worry Rosanna Ninety sitting among the trees in a waking nightmare. I saw a tree crashed down on the truck and crush her. Like a bug eye pleased her away from a possible direct fall but that didn't mean that the whole top of the tree might not fly fifty feet through the air and smash her by early morning. We knew by radio that we were going to get it and by ten o'clock we heard that the I would pass over us and that it would reach us at one. Oh seven some exact time like that or bay was quiet without a ripple but the water was still dark and the fair lane road. Daintily slack. Guns her mooring. Our Bay is better protected than most. So that many small craft came cruising in for mooring and I saw with fear that many of their owners didn't know how to more finally to boats. Pretty things came in one towing the other alight anchor went down and they were left the bow of one tethered to the stern of the other and both within the swing of the Fair Lane. I took a megaphone to the end of my peer and tried to protest against this foolishness but the owners either did not hear or did not know were did not care. The wind struck on the moment. We were told it would and ripped the water like a black sheet. It hammered like a fist. The whole top of an oak tree crashed down. Grazing the cottage where we watched the next best stove. One of the big windows in I forced it back and drove wedges and top and bottom with a hand axe electric power and telephones went out with the first blast as we knew they must and eight foot. Tides were predicted. We watched the wind rip at earthen. See like a surging. Pack of terriers. The trees plunged in bent. Like grasses and the whipped water raised a cream of foam. A boat broke loose and Toboggan up on the shore and then another houses built in the benign spring and early summer took waves in their second story windows. Our cottages on the Little Hill thirty feet above sea level but the rising tide washed over my high peer. As the wind changed directions. I moved Roseanne Onta- to keep her always to leeward of our big oaks. The fair lane road gallantly swinging a weathervane away. From the changing wind the votes which had been tethered one to the other had fouled up by now the tow line under propeller and rudder the two holes bashing and scraping together another craft had dragged its anchor and gone to shore on a mud bank. Charlie dog has no nerves gunfire or thunder explosions or high winds. Leave him utterly unconcerned. In the midst of the howling storm he found a warm place under a table and went to sleep. The wind stopped suddenly as it had begun. And although the waves continued out of rhythm they were not wind tattered and the tide rose higher and higher all the peers around our little bay disappeared underwater and only their piles or handrail showed. The silence was like a rushing sound. The radio told us we were in the eye of Donna. The still and frightening calm in the middle of the revolving storm. I don't know how long the calm lasted it. Seemed longtime of waiting and then the other side struck us the wind from the opposite direction. The fair lane swung sweetly around and put her bow into the wind. But the two lashed boats dragged anchor swarmed down on fair lane and bracketed her. She was dragged finding and protesting down wind and forced against a neighboring peer and wicked here her whole crying against the oaken piles the wind registered over ninety five miles. Now I found myself in fighting the wind around the head of the bay toward the pier where the boats were breaking up. I think my wife for whom the fair lane is named ran after me shouting orders for me to stop. The floor of the pier was four feet underwater but pile stuck up and offered handholds. I worked my way out little by little up to my breast pockets. The shore driven win slapping water in my mouth. My boat cried and wind against the piles and plunged like a frightened calf. Then I jumped and fumbled my way aboard her for the first time in my life. I had a knife when I needed it. The bracketing we were boats. Were Pushing Elaine against the pier. I cut anchor line in tow line and kicked them free and they blew ashore on the mud. Bank but Elaine's anchor chain was still intact and that great old mud hook was still down. A hundred pounds of iron with spear shaped flukes. Wide is a shovel. Elaine's engine is not always obedient but this day it started at a touch. I hung on standing on the deck reaching inboard for wheel and throttle clutch with my left hand and that boat tried to help. I suppose she was that scared. I entered her out and worked up the anchor chain with my right hand under ordinary conditions. I can barely pull that anchor with both hands in a calm but everything went right. This time. I edged over the hook and tipped up and freed at spades then. Lifted it clear out of the bottom and nosed into the wind and gave it throttle and we headed into that. God Damn Wind gained on it. It was as though we pushed our way through thick porridge. A hundred yards offshore. I let the hook go and at plunged down grabbed bottom and the fairlane straightened and raised her bow and seem to sigh with relief. Well there I was a hundred yards offshore with Donna. Baying over me. Like a pack of white whiskered hounds. No skift could possibly whether it for a minute I saw a piece of branch goes skidding by and simply jumped in after it. There was no danger. If I could keep my head up I had to blow ashore but I admit the half Wallington rubber boots. I wore got pretty heavy. It couldn't have been more than three minutes before grounded and that other fair lane and a neighbor pulled me out. It was only then that I began to shake all over but looking out and seeing our little bowed riding well and safely was nice. I must have strained something pulling ankle with one hand because I needed a little help. Poem a Tumbler of Whiskey on the kitchen table with some help too. I've tried sense to raise that ankle with one hand and I can't do it. The wind died quickly. Leftist wreckage power lines down telephone for a week. Person on tape is not damaged at all. So here is what Phoenix had to say about this. It's such a masculine telling the story. He did a terrible thing terrifying his wife but to him it was a quick John to help out his boat. And he metaphorically didn't drop his cigar just kept cool he's sixty years old in this story and it's autobiographical what an asshole. But also how? Beautifully written couldn't agree more Phoenix. I think it's an interesting character. Reference point for the character of Johnny Marysville who sees himself? Is this kind of masculine. Do what I want character And it is also a really shining example of what the whole man versus nature. Strife can be it really allows for this kind of this happened and then this happened and then this happened plot Without any need for a will. What'S THE VILLAINS MOTIVATION? Nature doesn't need a motivation. It just needs to absolutely take you down. So the next thing that I'm going to be reading is a little kind of mid point. Breather. This is a poem called snowbound subtitle the Son that brief December day this by the poet John Greenleaf Whittier now. This description is something that I think that anyone who's lived in New England has a real respect for In the same ways that the desert convey this really all inspiring sense of fastness and uncaring. So too can winters in say Maine and Fremont so that in mind as I read this brief Jonty oil poem for you. The Sun that brief December Day rose cheerless over hills of gray and darkly circled gave at noon a satellite than waning moon. Slow tracing down the thickening sky. It's mute an ominous prophecy portend seeming less than threat at sank from sight before it set a chill note coat however stout of homespun stuff could quite shut out a hard dull bitterness of cold that checked mid vein the circling race of lifeblood in the sharpened face. The coming of the snowstorm told the wind blew east. We heard the roar of Ocean on his wintry shore and felt the strong pulse. Throbbing there beat with low rhythm are inland air. Meanwhile we did your nightly chores brought in the wood from out of doors lettered. The stall and from the mouse raked down the herds grass for the cows heard the horse winning for his corn and sharply clashing Horn on horn impatient. Down the stanchion rose the cattle shake their walnut bows while peering from his earthly perch upon the scaffolds poll of Birch the cock. His crested helmet bent and down his querulous. Chen wouldn't sent an warmed by any sunset. Light the Grade Day darkened into night a night made Hori with the swarm in world. Dance of the blinding storm. As Zigzag wavering to and fro crossed and recrossed the winged snow and air. The early bedtime came a white drift pile. The window frame and through the glass the clothesline posts looked in like tall and she did ghosts night. Drew on and from the Crest of would knows that Ridge to the west the sun a snow blown traveler sank from sight beneath fat smoldering bank. We piled with care our nightly stack of wood against the back the oaken log green huge and thick and on its top the stout back stick the naughty four stick lane. Apart and filled between with curious art the ragged brush then hovering near we watched the first read blaze appear heard the sharp crackle caught the gleam on whitewashed wall and sagging beam until the old rude furnished room burst flowerlike into rosie bloom while radiant and with a mimic flame outside the sparkling drift became an through the bear bowed lilac tree our own warm hearth seemed blazing free the crane and pendant trammell showed the Turks heads on the and irons glowed while childish fancy prompted tell the meaning of the miracle whispered the old rhyme under the tree when fire outdoors. Burns merrily there. The witches are making e the moon above the eastern would show net. It's full the hill. Range stood transfigured in the silver flood. It's blown snows flashing cold and keen dead white save where some sharp ravine took shadow or the Sambre Green of hemlock turned to black against the whiteness at their back for such a world and such a night most fitting that an warming light which only seem where it fell to make the coldness visible that was snowbound or the sun that December Day by John Greenleaf. Whittier here is what Phoenix had to say. A wonderful representation of how storms can have their effect sickle logically much more than physically in some cases. It's a different aspect of man versus nature. This gets back to what we talked about. Little Bit in the episode Wherein man versus nature is often a way of exploring man's perseverance. Now having lived a little bit in true even New England Vermont. There is some truth to this idea that things can get kind of out of proportion and out of color against the starkness of the white and gray Just a really wonderful poem and fun to to put into words. It's interesting with these kind of archaic poems. You know this being written in the eighteen hundreds that sometimes the way that we pronounce words changes so the ending couplet here clearly leaning towards a specific rhyme scheme for such a world in such a night most fitting that on warming light which only seemed wherever it fell to make the coldness visible. It doesn't quite roll off the tongue because it's just that old but I agree. It's a surprisingly good thing to compare it to desperation. Which is you know. Really partly a piece about what the characters think about their surroundings. There is not a psychedelic but definitely an artistic kind of exaggeration of aspects to the environment. Here that you can see in some of Stephen King's work as well. Now finally we're GONNA end with an absolute banger if I do say so This is a section from chapter one thirty five it looks like of Moby Dick. Now this is during a confrontation with the white whale which is really one of those literary figures that has come to absolutely stand for the archetypical man versus nature. And I think if you connect it to these other two selections that Phoenix has so aptly brought together for us. You'll find that. There is a real kind of man versus himself struggle in men versus nature and no other book gets it like Moby. Dick gets it I will be reading this in a kind of pirate the accent. I'm sorry if that turns you off but it's just impossible to read with out sounding like a pirate so here goes nothing the craft was cast to one side and ran ranging along with white wells. Flank seems strangely oblivious to dance as the whales sometimes will they had was fairly within the smokey mountain mist which thrown off from the whale spout curled round his great Mandak Hump. He was even those close to him. When with body arched back both arms length wise high lifted to the poise. He darted his fierce iron and his father fiercer curse and to hated wail as both steel and curse sank into the socket. As if sucked into a morass moby Dick sidewise writhed spasmodically rolled his knife flank against the bow and without staving a hole in it so suddenly cantered the boat over that had not been for the elevated part of the gun whale to which he doesn't clung a how would once more have been tossed into the sea. How's it was three of the artist? Men for new not the precise instant of the DART and were therefore unprepared for its effects. These were flung out so fell that in an instant to. I'm clutch the gun. Well again and raising to its level. And a Coleman wave hurled themselves bodily inboard again the third man hopelessly dragging a stern but still afloat and swimming almost simultaneously with a mighty volition of an-and graduated instantaneous witness. The white whale darted through the wall touring Z. But when they have cried out to the steersman to take new turns with the line and hold it so and commanded the crew to turn round on their seats in tow the bow up to the mark the moment the treacherous line felt that double strain and tug it snapped in the empty air. What breaks in me. Some SINEW CRACKS. Tis whole again. Our's our's burst in upon him hearing the tremendous rush of the C. Crushing boat the way wheeled around present his blank. Far Head at bay but in that evolution catching sight to the nearing black of the ship. Seemingly seeing it the source of all his persecutions but thinking it it may be a larger and nobler foe of sudden. He bore down upon advancing brow smeeting his jaws amid fiery showers of foam. A cab staggered his hands his forehead. I grow blind hand. Stretch out before me that I may grope my way it's night the whale. The ship cried the cringing oarsmen ours ours. Slope downwards I depth oversee that Harry would be forever too late a had may slide this last last time upon his mark. I see the ship. The ship Dashon. My men will not save my ship but has the oarsmen violently forced their boat through the sledge. Hammering sees the before whale smitten bow wins. The two planks burst through an almost instant temporarily disabled the boat nearly level with the waves. It's half waiting splashing crew trying hard to stop the gap bailout pouring water. Some reasons why we excerpted this section first of all. This is a very difficult book to excerpt from because it's got that kind of storytelling long winded this and annisten on that Now the reason why we went with this particular selection is because you get a little bit of the uncaring nature of Moby Dick Moby Dick here standing in for the versus nature See here The wheel wailed round present black forehead at bay but in that evolution catching sight of the nearing blackhall of the ship. Seemingly seeing in it the source of persecutions he cares about seemingly moby. Dick Cares about the boat much more than he cares about eighty have being so obsessed with Moby Dick and you see in that kind of miscommunication. Almost that there's real heartbreaking irony to it this is what Phoenix had to say. This is perhaps the most famous example of man versus nature in literature and also shows how man versus nature can reflect. Man Versus. Obsession with the whale is part of his own mental decline. That's a really reduced view of easily the most analyzed piece of American literature so enjoy. Enjoy indeed now. This was sourced from a website called. American LITERATURE DOT Com. It looks like you can get the entire book Moby Dick or though AOL on that website. If you're into some kind of high minded ocean shenanigans if you like the lighthouse go read Moby Dick Please. That is what we've got for you today. Three little vignettes of what man versus nature can be. Join US next week where we will be doing. One of our main episodes Phoenix will be back with me and we will be talking about the twin book to desperation which is of course Richard Bachman 's the regulators. So get reading on that we are going to be reading through Chapter Seven. Roughly the first half of the book. keep an eye out for many of the same characters and see if any of the themes interlaced with this. I will say having read the majority of the first half the book. Man versus nature features much less prevalent which is interesting given that they're supposed to be kind of Two sides of a similar coin as it were anyway. We can't wait till you join us. Then find us on social media on facebook on twitter if you enjoy the program. Tell One person you Ikea about it. That's our whole spiel. We'd like to thank Monica. Jen for doing our posters Michaela Fishman. Doing graphic design. We'd like to thank the Stephen and Tabitha King Foundation for all of the charitable work. They do in the state of Maine. We'd like to thank Tony Magistrelli. Michael Blue and for being some of our academic advisors would of course like to thank our mysterious archivist Bryant and we would like to thank you the listener. We will see you next week. Thank you for tuning in and Yeah.

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Unlocking the Creative Value of Inefficiency

Knowledge@Wharton

23:54 min | 1 year ago

Unlocking the Creative Value of Inefficiency

"Podcast is brought to you by knowledge award. What are the benefits of the digital age? We are in is that technology is seemingly making us more efficient at work and in our personal lives. But what if rather than making us more efficient? These tools actually, keep us from learning how to respond to the unexpected. Our next guest says there's a better way to think about bettering our lives using a combination of artificial intelligence and trained intuition and by learning from the random and unexpected Edward tenors distinguished scholar at the center for the study of innovation at the Smithsonian. His new book the efficiency paradox. What big data can't do is out now and he joins us right now. Mr. Tanner, great to have you with us today. Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. Thank you. So I guess I am I right in saying that over the course of time. I mean, we all strive to have officiency, but that a little inefficiency can can benefit at times as well. Exactly. That's the point of my book how so. The problem with the fishy. Is that algorithms let us really learn from experience. They let us codify experienced. They let us benefit they recognize patterns. They're really tremendous at that. For example, use the Google program ways. And I I started out as a critic of it. But then I got into it more and more, and I still value it. However, the problem with ways is that every once in a while it will make a terrific blunder, for example, once when I was going south point at me north. And so if somebody relies completely on a system like that, no matter how brilliantly engineered sooner or later some glitches going to bite back. However, it's they keep their awareness of where they are if they keep their commonsense. And if they keep trust in their common sense, then they can really get the most of the program while avoiding those little. Disasters. So then to degree have because we are quite a bit reliant on technology. Are we losing something as society as a culture? There is definitely that risk. And it happens all the time because it's so easy to become dependent. It's so easy. Just to accept what what program is proposing to you, and to shut your eyes to other things that might be a little more unusual. But of course, that that didn't really start with with technology because people were using pattern recognition people were using routines for a long time. For example, look at all the publishers that turned down the Harry Potter series because Harry Potter was something so new although it had elements from from other literary works, obviously, it was something so new that it really didn't fit into the pattern of what publishers thought would be a really successful children's book. And it was only when the eight year old daughter of the editor road a little a little review of the book an ecstatic little review of oak and. So he decided this was this was the one to to buy so in that sense. The the the problem with artificial intelligence is really not limited to the technology. It's limited really it's extended. I should say to the tendency that we all have to just go on what's been familiar and to ignore the the unexpected to ignore our really our ability to to recognize something that's really fresh and exciting. Edward tenor. Who is the author of the book the efficiency paradox. What big data can't do your comments? Welcome on the phone at eight four four Warton eight four four nine four two seven eight six six or if you're not able to get your phone. You can send us a comment on Twitter at biz radio one thirty two zero radio one three two or you can use my Twitter account, which is damn yellow Eleni y twenty one. Efficiency, obviously is something that's been around in various forms. I mean, it's not exclusive to the digital culture. Wherein? I mean, you can go back centuries to be able to look at aspects of officiency. But one of the things that caught my eye that you mentioned is the fact that I guess that that officiency itself was kind of redefined going back to the nineteenth century, correct? Yes. The nineteenth century made a huge difference before the nineteenth century people. Of course, were always concerned with managing with the least overhead with getting the getting the most for the least and so forth, but they didn't really have a doctrine about and one of the big changes of the nineteenth century with the rise of the steam engine was that now people will really very much concerned with how much work we can get out of a given unit of coal, for example. Which is steam engines would would let railroad travel fastest on a. Given amount of fuel. So people started thinking much more systematically about efficiency, and that in turn fed back into business and social thinking, more, generally. Descriptions you use relates efficiency at times to threat how so. The efficiency as a threat with a with the tier was deed. Okay. Because I also I've also written about the the the history of sewing thread, which is which is another another whole topic. The efficiency as as a threat. I think is appears in in a number of ways, you know, the the first, of course, is that that if we try to do everything efficiently than we are we are really turning off the the power of serendipity, which which really relies on ways that really relies on are taking a wrong, turn occasionally or picking up a book in the that. We hadn't expected in fact, one of my most exciting moments was when John Kennedy, jR, who was editor George magazine called me. And he had been looking for another book in a bookstore. And he happened to see mine on a different topic. I would never have thought of being contributor. But but he liked the book, and so we had lunch, and I was able to write a couple of articles for him. So the. Recently. There's been an article in the New York Times about the declining number of bookstores in New York, so possibly that bookstore wouldn't have been there, and I wouldn't have gotten the call. So that led me to see that that bookstores are a really great example of an institution that promote serendipity. And and I it's important for people to seek out that kind of opportunity and again, the author of the book the efficiency paradox went big data. Can't do he is our guest right now in your comments. Welcome on the phone and eight four four warden eight four four nine four two seven eight six six or if you'd like send us a comment on Twitter app is radio one thirty two zero one three two or my Twitter account, which is at Dan loan yellow anyway, twenty one now in the book, you look at efficiency in a variety of different areas, and one of the areas that we've focused on on a variety of occasions is education. And I be interested to get your thoughts as to how. How efficiency is having an impact positively and negatively on our education system right now. Education naturally, fascinates me because I've been involved in it in different connections for most of my life. And when I wrote the book what I had not realized that the application of officiency to education actually goes back to Thomas Edison himself. And this one said that he thought that textbooks are only three percent of fish int-. Bill Gates, recently said something very similar textbooks are only three percent fishing. And he thought that an adaptation of his new motion picture system could really jump start science education. And so he actually started a company to produce those the invented a new kind of projector that would be suitable for classrooms, and it was a marketing bomb and the reason for that. Was that innocent was an absolutely brilliant dropout. And he was able to hire really great technical people. He deserves his reputation as a. Technical genius. But he had never taught a class, and he had very limited experience to the system. So didn't really understand what goes into science education or education, more broadly. And so he wasn't able to to to market the the the product, and this has been a thread, I discovered in most of the programs for making education more efficient through technology BF Skinner, the psychologist was one of the very few people in the field who actually had had had taught classes, so he, but but even his system of program learning was not terribly successful. So I'm not saying that that that technology can't be valuable in education. It can be extremely valuable. But there's a lot about education that actually can be improved by what is called desirable. Difficulty. And that means that somebody who is taking notes on a lecture, for example, will learn more if they have to paraphrase lecturer in longhand than if they can type for Begum on some device with a with the keyboard. And the the reason for that is that when you're when you're forced to right when you have that constraint of writing when you can't write everything down verbatim. Then you are forced to the just for yourself and understand better the major questions of the lecturer. Whereas when you can just type you're just typing. It's it's what's colleges called fluency and fluency does not necessarily translate into understanding and Edward. I have thought a little bit the same in my personal life with my oldest daughter who's in seventh grade and twelve years of age in math and the. Fact that now they have the ability to rely on using a calculator for certain elements of their math learning instead of actually writing it out and doing it themselves. Yes, I think calculators can be really great in mess calculators can reduce the tedious side. But there is a risk as you say that in eliminating steps your turning mathematical thinking into a black box. So you don't really understand how the computer got to the subject. So I think there there needs to be a balance between what students will do mentally and what they're doing with device. The interesting thing about the older. Mass culture was the slide rule because the side rule was really something kind of in between. But when I worked in publishing, my first boss her Bailey, who is director of Princeton University press would still use a slide rule for a lot of his calculations because he said it led him visualize a arrange of scenarios, of course, he was you know, he he taught in the military in the second world. War. So he was from that technological culture. But but I think there was a lot in that. And he certainly was very very efficient director Edward tenor. Who is the author of the book the efficiency paradox. What big data can't do? Your comments are welcome at eight four four Warton eight four four nine four two seven eight six six or if you'd like send us a comment on Twitter app is radio one thirty two or my towards count, which is at Dan Loney? Elo anyway, twenty one you also talk about efficiency in this paradox in terms of the world of medicine and the medical field right now. Yes. There's been a dream of better medicine through information technology. There are lots of things that. Computers can can really do to improve medical outcomes. If only in in research, so I'm I'm very enthusiastic about the possibility of of technology in medicine. However, lots of things have had really unexpected outcomes. For example, the electron ick medical record has been praised by politicians, and and leading doctors and administrators away to eliminate all of the costly, misunderstandings of doctors handwriting's to enable the better transfer of patients medical records in principle electric, medical record. Looks like a really great thing. But the problem of the electric medical record is that it really shifts a lot of the burden to doctors and their staffs to enter information in a standardized way and the also all kinds of problems of interoperationality. Systems of updating systems. And so a lot of doctors are actually complaining about a burn out. And there have been a number of articles in medical journals both before and after my book was published about this. So it may just be that. We're not doing it. Right. But the the point is that if something like that is not implemented correctly, a move for fishing can lead to less efficient. I don't care what I say this. But you could see because of all that technology. The doctors are using SIA Risa of doctors having to deal with something like carpal tunnel as well. It's you know, it's it's significantly a potential issue here. We're joined by Edward tenor, author of the book deficiency paradox. What big data can do? Your comments are welcome at eight four four warden eight four four nine four two seven eight six six or if you'd like send us a comment on Twitter at biz radio one thirty two or my Twitter account, which is at Dan looney twenty one. So then how do you think Edward about algorithms moving forward? Do we need to to adapt algorithms to to factor in other elements as we move forward in some of these areas, I think we're going to be using more and more algorithms. It's really a good thing. And and there are there are there are many pluses a lot of other people have written about the pluses. So I'm I'm really focusing on. On the on the problems with the the idea that that recognizing them can lead us to get the most out of the system. So one of the things that that really is important to me is. Trusting our own intuition and not dismissing it as as of some some guru is suggests that we do because very often something that we have at the back of our minds is really a very good check on what the algorithms saying. So I see that as a as another another way to to prevent the kind of problem. I mentioned of the GPS telling you occasionally to go in the wrong direction or even take a dangerous turn this happened. A few times, what is the what is your expectation? Then as we move forward in the next decade or two as to how we will be able to to kind of balance both sides of this debate. It really depends on. People's own behavior. It's not something that can be really decided by policy. So if people if people really want to delegate as much as possible of their lives to algorithms. There are lots of companies will be very happy to to do that for you. My book is really suggesting that in addition to using them, we also, cultivate, other things we for example, we have a lot of what what sociologists and psychologists of technology called tests that knowledge we we know a lot more than we think things that we can't articulate that are impossible to build into artificial intelligence systems and yet are essential for everyday living. Consider for example, the meaning of an unfamiliar proverb a little kid can tell you, for example, what a stitch in time saves nine means because we think metaphor. Warrick -ly. It's a it's a natural thing. Somebody from another culture can probably tell you what it means. But it's much much harder for an algorithm to to make that jump unless it happens to have programmed into it some database with the meaning of that particular saying, and the the wonderful thing about human reasoning is that we have a this the stock of skills and knowledge that we can't articulate, but are there when we need it. And one of the things you bring up playing off of that is the fact that there are elements of our knowledge within our brains that are things that can't be really replicated by artificial intelligence. And I find that interesting especially now, considering the fact that there's so much conversation about how AI is going to come into our culture and and change so many things, but also improved things as well. Well, it it can change them. But my point. It is do we do. We really do. We really want to change them. Do I really want for example to? Have our future reading based on patterns of the reading that we have been doing recently that is something that can certainly get you into greater depth, and what you've been doing. But it it it rules out that that peripheral vision sometimes astronomers will will actually use averted vision because the the part of our I that's not in the central focus actually can detect a lot of things better than the than than Fulvio vision. So my metaphor is for for that is really that that we have a tremendous asset in this. In this peripheral vision that we get and that that artificial intelligence if it's not used right can can just blend that out, and and deprive us of something that will take us beyond the pattern that we've fallen into. So again, there there is a benefit to having all of this. But if you playing off of that, if if you don't have that peripheral vision on a particular subject or particular area, the the potential for a loss, whatever how you quantify that laws is certainly there. And it makes you wonder how that is going to be impacted. If you're multiplying that say by ten million, people twenty million people thirty million people, whatever that number may be. That's that's a real issue. What one of the fascinating things about artificial intelligence and computer guidance generally is that when builders of advanced. Aircraft are designing the control systems. They don't entrust anything to anything really crucial to a single computer. They use multiple redundant systems. And those systems are program by different people with different hardware and software, and the idea is that you can have one system like ways as I mentioned that makes glitch, but it's unlikely that a number of independent systems that are quote unquote voting will will all be making the same mistake at the same time. So that kind of redundancy is one way to avoid some of the problems of artificial intelligence, but it doesn't get at this element of serendipity. It doesn't get at the element of surprise. And so much of human progress really has consisted of people taking that kind of jump from the stab patterns and intuitively finding some more. No, more really. Really interesting ways of of thinking, and that's why so many really successful books. Have originally been turned down or roge Ingley published like Moby, Dick Moby? Dick seem to be this really weird book that broke all the rules. The original sales were not that great and an algorithm might have defeated entirely. But the point was that here was somebody who had a really stunning original vision and was able to express it in a in a new way that didn't fit into any of those patterns how how does what you talk about in the book and this concern over officiency also play out with what we've seen recently surrounding some of the the social media scandals the data sharing issues that that are out there right now. The the problems of social media are really that that they they tend to reinforce what is what is already there. They tend to to build on trends. There have been studies, for example of how people rate songs, and what they find is that a small difference in listeners initial preference can snowball and really distort. What what people would otherwise think of as the quality of song? So there is that there's that bias. But I think there's there's also the the issue that the social media by taking away so much advertising revenue. From newspapers and magazines have also really changed the total media environment, and therefore have have weaken, the kind of original reporting and writing that should actually be the basis of social media. So that they've kind of undermined themselves and pleasure to talk to you today greatly. Appreciate your time and all the best with the book. Thank you again. Thank you very much. Thank you, ever tenor. The book again is the efficiency paradox. What big data can't do? The book is available in bookstores and online for your purchase right now Edward distinguished scholar at the center for the study of innovation at the Smithsonian Institution and pleasure to have him on the show for more insight from knowledge Morton, please visit knowledge dot Morton dot U, Penn dot EDU.

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Moby Dick part thirteen-Quarter Deck, Dark Ceremony

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Moby Dick part thirteen-Quarter Deck, Dark Ceremony

"Hello and welcome to episode thirteen of night reader podcasts. Literary. Exploration. Make you so much for joining me today. We're going to be moving through a great important scene of Moby Dick called the quarter deck or a bribes. His crew turns his crew gets all ready to go hunt the great whale. He convinces now. Ramon Act. As well as some devious actions. So. Today. Through that episode with some cool voices music a lot of other cool things I. Hope you enjoy it. Hope you sit around with me through this whole entire episode further on. I highly recommend you go back and begin with episode one or if you're looking for quick installation. Check out your favorite read episodes six nine. If you like what I do please support me by giving me positive feedback or reviews or whatever. It may be share with reader in your. Life. Follow me on Instagram, save most up up to date with me. So. Herman Melville With his masterful poetry of the world. Ever. G Work. Word sustained my soul and you piercing eyes. Board do my skull. Brother Urban. Ismael. More. Talkative admiration of genius. This is for you or well done. Everything. This podcast. You were military blanket a used to warm by stagnant soul. How is it? Herbert. Have reached out beyond the grave. Chest Cage Tartan. to, write your works directly over my pulse. Never, have I felt this pull of admiration for someone I've never met. Or seen yet motion. Next year visiting your grave for some silent time with you I plan on visiting new? Bedford. It sanding from there and then Tuck it. Farther found allowed. This hearkens back to my earliest episodes where I speak about inspiration. How funny fickle is. So wild how we hugh could be inspired. More how we can be inspirational. After our time. Even live to CR effects on this world. Words simple words. Words can cause us to win or lose. Words can leave US empty or full. Whereas can influence truly. Influence a new hobbies, new activities. New Experiences. Lifestyle. That just powerful. What other media houses effect on us as people? Aren't possibly. Be Sad about the strong effects literature tacitus throughout our lives. Exponential incredibly, it's just to be. I'm not saying to my love for you, your Art Herbert. Now. A small interjection here. On a play, a little bit of background music and tell you a couple of background things that might help you out help you understand the next chapter a little bit better. When I go over some ships directions. For better reference. The front of the vessel is called. The bow in the back is the stirred. Moving, backwards on the ship you're moving. After. Moving towards the bow moving four or forwards. The main deck is you're on when you walk aboard ship out in the open. Towards the back they would be a high deck called the poop deck. Sometimes, there will be a shelter deck underneath that. The front of the ship there'd be sort of building four castle. Castle in the front. Provides tied advantage and protection during naval warfare. Between the main deck in the foredeck? which is the top before castle. There's a small quarter deck, which is we're all hands will be called. Any kind of ceremony aboard this vessel would be held. So we're brought to chapter thirty six called the quarter deck. This is one of the most important the magic scenes in the book. It's largely important and shows how a half converts his crew in dark twisted ceremony. We see his true power on swaying lives. Now before we get into this. A bit more preliminary information in many religions that practice some form of holy communion mostly Christian based branches. This communion. This community is joining of to worship together and adjust the blood body of Christ through the form of bread and wine. Some specific denominations would've practices by making a circle of people in Church with a priest and three priests of lower status the middle. They'll say sort of prayer in drink from chalices. Sometimes. The challenges sent in the circle. A, very specific practice of there are many other forms of it. But it's important that you have this image in your head. and. Also that you understand that usually this is a practice of peace. Is. Not. Something that is used for evil or bad doings. It is generally a pleasant positive events. We will see in this chapter. How Herman Melville. Peredes this practice. As a used type of ceremony to convince his crew and sap the free will out of them. Whether it's his nearly unearthly hatred and vengeance has risen him up on this pedestal of power. Or this is the universe working. It's wonders. Or. But of both. We're not sure of. Now let's talk about this chapter. And then we'll discuss the deeply rooted meanings behind the scene. It was not long after a affair with his pipe. When one morning captain Ahab emerged from the cabin gangway up onto the main deck. He paced countryman when Pace Garden after. Dinner. The are dented here and there with the mark of his ivory leg. But. These markings were nothing compared to the numerous tracks his pacing thoughts in his mind? He turns interns. Was this the right time? Were they far enough out at Sea I. Yes. Second Mate Stub and third mate flask stare hard. And stub whispers. gamache flask. The chick that's impacts this shell. Will soon be out. Stop is a funny guy. He's incredibly in tune with his brother in but. Always has lightheartedness about him in a funny way of explaining things that. The chick pecks Shell. Whatever inside of. Ahab. Is finding its way out slowly. The slight comedy very particular. Seems Stub has a great idea of what's going to happen. He pays for hours before going back into his cabinet. Reemerging in the evening time. He holds onto the rails of the P. Quad. Turns to starbuck and orders him to send everyone back here to the quarter deck. Everyone to all hands. Mastheads come down. Everyone aft. The crew arrives and trade curious glances with one another. The. Moon is out and silvery light flows onto the deck. There seemed to be a dark storm brewing in a Hab. READY TO FLASH FORTH AT ANY? Moment. He is the crew right back. His hat was tipped. Head, down. And he continued his pacing. The Crew Watson wondered nervously for a few minutes. stub. Wonders why he even called all hands. But suddenly they have stops and asks. When you see ally Wail then. What do you? Seeing how? crew good and what do you next man? Long Way after. Constantine capitol. And what to is it? Ye pull to nine A dead whale or broken boat it's one or the other. This way war-cries Sung up everyone. His crew was getting worked up. At the prospect of whale hunting. A helps contagious flowing through the crew. He seemed to have a magical force on them that no man could resist. Only. The smart and careful starbuck remains weary. A had grasped the shrouds tightly as he spoke almost as if he was trying to restrain the crew with brute, force. And his body language couldn't hide it. starbuck. He does have them in his firm grasp. A have holds up a Spanish ounce of gold. Sixteen dollar piece. On the balloon. He asks starbuck to fetch a Habur. While, he goes to grab it. A have rubs. against. His jacket mumbling and humming to himself. The cogs this old man's mind still turn. No matter. How Creaky? So, ever of Ye grazes me why headwear With a wrinkles proud crooked jaw. Who So ever if you raises me that white headed whale. With Three Holes Punctured His starboard Fluke Lookie A. Whosoever view raises me I save white were. So, have this gold out my boys. A It's a white. Will I say skin your eyes for men. Look Sharp for white what if you see but a bubble? SINGLED OUT Starbuck Hand Captain, Ahab? Ever. A. Had nails the doubloon. Main mast for everyone to see. The crew is it longingly? The balloon is worth a pretty good amount. So. He's kind of putting the trophy up there. Give them more ambition. The crew is looking at each other. Daily even know themselves while they're getting so worked. Some kind of brute force sir. Ronald Mania that is using against them. Getting the he wants. To great effect. Who is kind of under his spell at this point getting all worked up Meanwhile. The three Harpoon irs casting. Go. Goo inquiry. quake. All shift about. uncomfortably. They seem to know or have heard of this great whale. Task -Sego the longhaired around I'd Indian from GAY head speaks And says Captain Ahab? That white whale must have been the same but some call moby Dick. Moby Dick. Do you know the white whale then Tash. Die. Goo. The Great and broad African men speaks next and asks. The curious spout. With very bushy in a wide spray. Then quickly, Greg Chimes in. And his broken English asks. If. He has three or so twisted harpoons in his hide. All twisted. And he makes a motion like he's opening A. Bottle of wine. The harpoons lyle twisted wrenched in him I do. spout is a big one. Like a whole shock of wheat. Attached to go. He fans his tail. Devon devils man this moby Dickie seen. Moby Dick. Now, remember. I mate starbuck is the only one who still has his head about him. In this instance, he knows he has passed. And he sees what he is doing. So we decided to call him out in front of the crew. starbucks says he has heard of Moby Dick. And asks if he isn't the same wail that took off a halves leg. Who told the that? I. Was Him who dismasted me Moby Dick. That brought me to. Stop by stand on now. Moby. Dick. Say Rome could hope around the horn round the Norway. Maelstrom. Round tradition slaves before I, give him up. And this is what he had sip for men. Chase the white. Whale. But both sides of land and all sides of earth. Till he sprouts plaque Liden and rose out. What's? On it now. I think he to brave. Sharp by for the why well sought. For moby Dick. God bless V8. Stewart. Go. Grab a great measure of Grog. Who Long face. Are Not game from Moby Dick. Asks. Stewart to bring a huge picture of watery rump to them and starbucks again saying I'm game careers, crooked jaw and the. Death of need be captain had. But I came here to hunt whales, not my leaders vengeance. How many barrels would vengeance yield e even if thou get it captain Ahab. It not fetch st much man target market starbuck is really calling him out here in front of everybody. Don't think Hab doesn't know how to deal with starbucks though. starbucks is saying everyone is thinking deep down but can't say. It's meals here among the crowd. Among the crew. But the book does not say exactly how he was reacting. I'm sure he was one of the crowd and game as well. But with a sickly feeling in his gut. This chapter is told as if we're looking down upon the P.. Quad. Ishmail is very observant give. Well. A Hab is going to respond to starbuck here saying. He doesn't care how much the money is. He asks what is money. What do we put on a pedestal? He says, his vengeance will fetch a great price. In his heart and soul. and. He pounds is just. Second STUB whispers. He smites his just what four. Meetings that rings most fast but hollow. Indeed Mr Stubb. His walk and Talk Talker Lords fast even. He looks big from the outside but within. He's hollow empty. starbuck fights back against they have here same. Vengeance on a dumb brute. Nine of all that smoke the from blindness instinct. Madness. To, raise with such something cop today had. Teams blasphemous. He's really reasoning with a HAB here. Saying the whale did not do this specifically to tarnish a reputation into sting his soul as it did. The animal was simply following its natural instincts and protecting itself. So. Why is it so terribly enraged upset. Let's hear it directly from captain himself starbuck. Let me let you into a little lower layer. Something, you may not have thought. Everything we see everything with battle against G- ride by those against life. But paper masks. This wail to something hides behind his facade. That way to me is more than just a whale. It is face. It has died Demi gone. It is life itself. It is more than I. can explain. If a man should strike. Strike through the math I say he tasks me an how can a prisoner reach outside? Except by thrusting through the wall to me, the white whale is that wall sub near to me. I must break it down. Sometimes, I think there's not beyond. And not enough. In the whale. I see the swirling of the worst malice brewing within. He is all things terrible to me. US All encompassing evil to me. I will wreak that eight to appoint him. Talk to me not of blasphemy mad. I'd strike the Sun if it himself in me. For if the Sun could insult me then in all fair play. I should be able to strike back. But even fair players not my master in this life. WHO's over me? Who is over May? TAKE OFF LINE I. Don't look the. More tolerable. The fiends gays. Dumbfounded stare. LOOKIE starbuck. I did not mean to incense the look. Look crew man. Are they not one in all with a hat? See STUB, he laughs. It is all of us. We are all on this hunt and game for the whale. So starbuck. Are you the odd man out? You are away L. Hunter. We are out here hunting Wales. So why not? Moby Dick. A had knows he has starbuck right under his thumb. There so far out at sea. The crews already in his grasp. How could they fight against this? Create an entire community. Create an entire mutiny against a HAB. Is it worth it. They're supposed to be hunting whales after all. starbucks out of prayer. Half to himself God. Save us. Save us all. A half definitely didn't hear it. Now, let me read you a direct quote here. But in his joy at the enchanted tacit acquiescence of the make. A Hab did not hear his forboding invocation. Nor yet the low laugh from the hold. Nor yet. The procedure vibrations of the wind and the cordage. Nor yet, the home of flap the sales against the masks. As for a moment heart sink in. For again starbucks downcast eyes light up with a stubbornness of life. The subterranean laughed died away. The winds blew on. The sales filled out the sheep heaved enrolled as before. E- admonitions and warnings. Why stay not when he come? But rather are you predictions and warnings each sat us. Yet not so much predictions from without. As verifications of the foregoing things within. Four with little external tickets strains. The most necessities are being. These, still drive Assad. Unquote. In my words. A had not hear this prayer. starbucks is are cast down to the planks. All is quiet for a second. Quiet mysterious laugh comes from down the low. In the hold. The wind dies down. For a quick moment the hearts of the sale sunken. They flapped hollow. Air stood still. But suddenly. Just as quick as everything left, all turns to life. The winfield sales, the gale blows. Looks is backed up with life. The ship roles and heaves just as before The whole world seemed to come to a sudden haunting halt. Warnings of life. You leave as quickly as you come. But rather than warnings. They are more. So predictions you shadows. Maybe, not predictions of life outside. But. Maybe a way of verifying innermost feelings. For with little outside to stop us in our tracks. The most human necessity is still drive us on. A hat calls out for the Peter. A big mug filled to the brim with rum. Now. We will see this dark ceremony Ahab on. He orders the harpoons to produce their weapons before him near the Capstan. The. Rest of the crew forms a circle around them. A half stands for a moment I every member of his crew slowly. Those wild is met his. Shot is the very wolves meet the is that they leader? Just before he rushes out, leads the pack to the trail of the Bison. But Alas. Only to fall to the hidden snare trap of the Indian. What forboding foreshadowing we have here three kid pass the clue alone now drake. Round with. Sought pools, Long Swallows Med it's hot had Satan's hoof. It spy realizes the folks out serpent snapping I. Well dawn almost empty. That way it went dissuade combs, hand it. Here he is. Hollow. Men He seeing the years. and. So bringing life is sculpt and God. Stewart. Refill. Attend now my braves. I have got a year round this capstone. Andy makes, flake me with your lances. And yeehaw toners stand there with your weapons in yeast out marinas. Ye Crew. Ring me in. So the fish and fathers before me here. Oh. Men. It fats, mates cross your lattices full before me. Let me touch the axis. He orders his mates to stand in front of him with the harpoons. Cross together. Ahab grabs the point where they all meet while staring directly into the three is his mates. He shakes harpoons. stubb and flask avert their gaze from his. To the side. But honest starbuck standing in the middle. Lower Gaze to the floor. In poor acknowledgement of, halves power. Poor starbuck has been sapped. Now orders or three mates to be cut bearers. Three head Harpoon irs. He tells to take the sharp barb at the end out. So. They are left holding long steel tubes with one open end. He tells them to flip them over as goblets. The Brunner's are handed the empty polls as Ahab goes round and fills them up -puter. Now, three to three is dad. Command the murderous. Jealous. He. Made. Parties. To this league. starbuck. But the deed is done. Drink harp owners. Drink. Can Swear. Ye Man. That man death full whale boat's bow. Death to Moby Dick. God Hunter saw. If we do not hunt Moby Dick to Jeff. The long scale goblets. To cry from the crew against the whale, the spirit slide down their throats with his. Starbuck at the site of this. Dark twisted ritual. Turns Away Pails Chivas. The Peter goes around among the frantic crew. Were finally, a headways free handed them. They all disperse. And a half retires to his cabin. So This has been an immense seen in every single way. We can see how it is a twisted parody is some religious practices. A speaks of lot of Ahab true and dark leadership. Everything in the story seems to be predetermined specific. And we can see the universe seems to halt at some moments. Poor starbucks truly at a loss. starbucks man to chase unnecessary perils. And he does have a family back home. He does not want the Diet See. We do not know for sure but some of his family members could have potentially been lost to the sea in the past. A courageous man he is and with strong. But even his spirit is being demolished by a hat. So of course, the avid sailor is all in for this voyage. A have had a dictatorship that he abuses terribly. He's even trying to set this all in stone with this ceremony. And he really has the crew all on one page. TRULY DEVIOUS IS A. Cunning as well. He very deliberately smashing starbucks spirit and forcing him to follow along. With sliced tomatoes. It's truly terrible and they have. With his ferocious way of thinking. He would strike the Sun if insulted him, he says. He does not go by rules of the world he does not abide by your average man's beliefs. He is lost in his madness. But has retained enough coming to be able to do what he's doing. On the other hand. You can see a sad and pain older man. Who has seemed to lose everything even his mind. In terrible pain and loss of his leg do you feel bad for a half? STARBUCK? The crew. Everyone. How does this seem? Make you feel? Have you ever been pressed into doing something you didn't think truly was right in your soul. If, you were a member of his crew aboard the P Quad this moment. How you react. Keep in mind. Is names already signing the contract and you're thousands of leagues out to sea. We can see Herman Melville has painted us a beautiful picture of despair. And wants us to think about so much more than what is shown in front of the painting. He wants us to pick our head into the strokes. To turn our next around the corners and edges of the lines he drew. Where seemingly there's nothing painted. The. Sections that are virtually nonexistent. But are mere ideas. That is where he wants us to eventually peer. His gorgeous paintings hang here for US blatantly. And so gorgeous are they on their own? But? If we take a deeper look. He has hidden a small and special boxes of thoughts and ideas around these walls and corners paintings. So I ask you to come a walk with me. Aboard the peak quad, our crew is going downhill. But they cannot see it. Almost everyone is blinded by this dictatorship. Staubach has lost his fortitude. It's really deep portion of our story. But. It's just beginning. The drastic difference in characters. Here's wild. The atmosphere descriptions out of this world. And these two forces ever pulling on each other. The. Good. The evil. But. What makes us more interesting? Is that it's almost hard to pinpoint what is good and what's the evil? Who is the antagonised? The whale. Captain Ahab. And how mysterious a character a hat. It his MONOMANIA and despair. And yet he is so smart. We see nature rearing its head. This meal is so very observer tive open to the world. He's an interpreter. However Ahab as we've seen, we'll see is the writer. He does not interpret. He forces his own vision. What he sees he sees what he believes. He believes. The way he says he was struck the son. He hardly abides by natural rules. So. How can this manic man get these men to follow along? Well. He's very smart about he's bribing them striking them. Making a ceremony of it. Telling them, they're brave talking to them up big time. He is crushed starbuck. Does. He have humidity it. Does he have any kindness of his heart? Will find our answer to these questions eventually. But what will come of our crew? What will come of the brave? quick-breaking starbuck. 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83: Dickinson Theories

Night Call

55:57 min | 1 year ago

83: Dickinson Theories

"Who is Mitch McConnell you might think you now he's the Senate majority leader but who is he really I'm Sean Morrow the host of who is a new podcast from now this yeah I heart radio where we'll be diving deep into the backstory's tactics and motives of the most powerful people on earth starting with a senator who proudly it calls himself the grim November fifth listened to who is on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts welcome tonight call a production of Iheartradio it's eleven twenty pm in Amherst Massachusetts on you're listening tonight call Hello and welcome tonight call a podcast for your strange days and lonely nights my name is Emily Yoshida Yeah I am here in Los Angeles with me as always are an test lynch hello low there so many mysteries right now on the Internet I feel like I feel like this episode is going to be conspiracy how a mystery heavy episode yeah mystery podcast theater I have been so so like puzzled and I don't even I wanted to come to today's episode like with all the answers about this particular case and like ready to just like explain it all all but the deeper I go into it the less sense it makes under the Silver Lake I was under the Silverlake I was under the crazy lake aw crazy days today's lakes so a couple of weeks ago yeah it was October ten th or yeah I don't know we talk about crazy these nights a lot on this podcast but the blind item website item website breaching key we to to maybe out of fear of US love it I don't know I feel like it's just been a staple of mine for a long time I bunch of things from it came true yeah out to be true became freshly relevant within the last couple of years particularly around some stories about Harvey Weinstein and now Awesome Epstein stories so it's yeah it's a resource on verifiable resource I hate it sal L. I want if I may tongue and let you guys out fine but it has the tone of this website is very difficult for me it's run by a man Dan well formerly we thought it was run by a man we took him at his word that his name was empty and entertainment lawyer how many divorces for he has like very kind of cheeky sort of mythology or is like three hundred pounds and I've had four wives and I eat bacon all day and I live in a basement I live with my parents basement that was like mocking mocking what people must think of him yeah but then there are there have been profiles of him that are like and he is yeah like I mean I feel like it's not even verified ah he lives in Los Angeles that's okay so that yeah so okay scandal so so we have to go we have to go back I to him the him methology so anti has a source or a group of sources called known as him with four M's and they are a group supposedly lia four men three of whom are like celebrities whose names you would recognize apparently who are friends and they started off as commenters commenters on the website on a lot of people thought when they thought it was one person they thought it was Robert Downey junior and this was like kind of in this kind of keeps being thing like people like when when I think there was one him blind item about like a vendor star dropping out and he's like oh good for you already J. Like I mean there's just there's that continues the highest this person presents themselves somebody who's like a Hollywood insider who like is raised in Los Angeles has been around for a while for a long time knows everybody from not only the current generation but like knows old Hollywood up as well passed on through the ages and I guess like the sort of I mean if you could think of a star of that age range and profile I guess like Robert Downey junior is easier to imagine than most people like indulging indulges people's fantasy the He would be very smart right so yeah I think I don't know if anyone asked directly they have and he kind of was coy about it but I I don't think he's also seems like somebody who would be coy about yeah he was enjoying the fact that people thought it was him yeah anyway so that started like in twenty twelve hymns a him came onto the the the scene and then this this past month and T- announced that one of the hymns had committed mid suicide and apparently it was the one who was like not famous but the one who wrote most of the blinds like the one who was kind of the direct contact act and so people were you know porn one out for him number four and et Cetera and then this guy goes by John DOE Mount John DOE from X.. No just a John DOE at a series of numbers who I guess is just like an nt not fan boy started to like do some digging and Had A theory that the hymns were all made up up and that they were not ever vetted by mt or Mt Willingly and knowingly just like let them tell these bullshit bullshit stories online and and pretend like basically that it was a group Fan fiction effort Renault that it wasn't even a graphic show except for one guy the whole time time who was just making like playing the role of this Hollywood insider I wanna start somewhere else like oh wait I have to find this go by the way it bears mentioning even probably as obvious that there have been a number of things that crazy days and nights has predicted correctly I would argue there have been more that have been not prevent people say it is a mixture of the true and untrue in order to like knock it sued food sure that makes lots of sense I don't think so at all I mean this is I it's clearly I read blind item sites a lot and it's the same with all of them they will predict things that don't happen and it's actually if we ran abided insight I guarantee that we could accurately predict several scandalous things take astrology it's a mixture of astrology clock yeah also there I mean to me the purpose of blind item sites and things things like that is to like air out gossip would not be able to be vetted into a real magazine and if you like if you're saying like oh but like like the real news report on it anyway like look at how the Harvey Weinstein Story did play out because he just paid off every newspaper and magazine and crushed every story about it unlike made it so that if it doesn't happen in print it didn't happen which is how a lot of abusive things work there are also ones that haven't come to light for instance a nickelodeon personality who yeah whose been talked about for years and blind eyes open secret it is an open I mean not I think the best insights even when they fired him they said it was for something as I said it was like oh we're just having creative regime so you know until somebody accuses the first of my name think some people have that's the thing is it's like what if what if they sue for falsely claiming something you can't approve and if you're curious what we're talking about you can go ahead and search nickelodeon feet then you can immediately know exactly what we are talking about so some people think that this means that anti themselves scam and not actually Knowledgeable maybe not even in La I will this Guy John Doe who like Kinda went on this twitter tear started to lineup the evidence for why him was ally then deleted all of his posts and is like now having a meltdown on twitter and he's like I'm not being threatened by by crazy days and nights there's another thing too which is like I don't know how far this person specifically went into Q. and on but they were Kinda like Oh oh facing the limit like they you know the the pedophile ring stuff and the lake sexual abuse differing that is true but then there's also things that aren't onto lake people wear red shoes to show the therapy to file and so all these people felt like Chrissy Teigen was a pedophile cushy red shoes on a show and that like get circulated it's just like well I don't know how much the him stuff was getting into like the two and like I feel like that was kind of the John Doe Guy was definitely like on that Y- ah Yeah and a lot of his followers were sort of more of like the Cunanan variety I would say and I think that I think the reason he started getting a lot of backlash deleted needed everything is just like when you are looking into somebody like I think this guy actually did commit suicide whoever this was I think people figured out who it was you can find his I can send you the obituary and he lived in Virginia and he appeared to just he had like one IMDB credit so he worked in Hollywood for some short amount of time in the ninety s and and apparently didn't have any involvement in show business anymore and I'm not sure if it's like a kind of thing where he li like kind of always had at this issue and still wanted to play the role of an insider or like but it goes back to an old thing which is like don't take people on the Internet at face westbound yeah or like you know because somebody has an Avatar that it's like a picture of that person right and there are lots of like smart talented people who are good at writing a. and telling stories who are unemployed in that realm and who can pretend to be whoever they want on the Internet well my question is this as someone who doesn't know that I know the basics the foundational information but so basically D- You guys think that anti is a singular person with inside knowledge do you you think that Andy was ham also do you think him that all of the hymns were one guy I think my I current theory and I have nothing about this is just the sense that I get is that ente is not actually an entertainment lawyer but he probably has some connections to the industry and doc is like an aggregate of gossip that's what I think too that people send blind items and tips two N D because they've established themselves as like the place nice where you can get those kinds of blind items and tips run so I think people do say like hey this person did this and then he like frames it as a blind item a lot of them are true a lot of the old Hollywood ones are if they were fan fiction it would be sort of like tediously written and overly specific it is one of those that you're referring to is that James Dean is alive in the last year I think it was a him one that was the Natalie attlee would one that was like a couple of years I don't remember what was that one that was that that she fell off the boat and and like there was a chance to rescue her and nobody did like like this whole like altercation that broke out and everything it was just like an an a narrative of what happened we'll never know oh that one yeah yeah and it's one of these things where it's like there's no way to prove that now from Christopher walken still alive asleep according to him but he's not talking he started talking apparently that's that that's part of the blind item yeah I mean I ride him I'm also wrote in sort of a different style from empty they write in this really clothes take the hint and that's why they don't have the him I ran they ran a really really good like extended one after Peter Fonda died that claimed that the Peter Fonda had told him the story and I do think that there are like stories that guys like that have told everybody that like now that their dad you can publish them this story was that day like arranged for all the bikes to be stolen during during easy rider so that they could get the insurance money to Finish Making Easy Rider Smart Myth Ted job the bikes were stolen easy rider so I do believe that that's what happened I'm an and then the second part of that story that involved Michelle Phillips going to Howard Hughes and asking for a lone helper friends finish their movie I said yes I also Michelle Phillips could get anything out of interesting that again you're just like it feels I it could be all made up who knows yeah but it does feel specific and it just feels like I turned up in of like faking like this is like insider knowledge because it's like a comment to her own blog that might not even be real it's it's very it's a it's a real rabbit hole yeah let's take a break and then when we come back let's take an icon sounds good hey everyone when was the last time you thought about how you brush your teeth most people don't think about it and most people do not brush recommended two minutes every day every morning and every night and for thirty thirty seconds on each side of their mouth as dentists recommend but with quip it takes the guesswork out of brushing your teeth quip was created by dentists I am product designers to focus on what actually 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P. dot com slash things welcome back to night call we have a night call the we wanted to take about horror movies because it's still spooky season spooky season's just started it's always spooky season now disdain have always been here hi a fan of the show and I posted a question in the nightcrawlers group that I wanted to ask you folks Do you have any recommendations for easing into horror movies my my background is I was raised in pretty restrictive religious environment where we were told that if we watched movies with any kind of demonic onic or spirit cystic elements and then than we had a good chance of getting attacked by demons and so in that environment I really didn't get any exposure to horror movies beyond like the birds later on I started watching some Zombie movies when I kinda got out of that religious environment but I'm still really scared of horror and I still kind of have this visceral fear reaction where I can't bring myself even look at the screen so I really good recommendations but it was suggested to call into the show to also so that everybody is take on maybe what movies I could start with us to start to get more comfortable with seeing horror on screen so oh I would love to hear anything you might recommend and I will add it to my homework thank you thank you so much for the call Do you guys I I bet that person I have one idea but I wanna hear yours because I'm such the wrong person to answer this question I like gentle horror gentle gentle heart I've been watching a lot of like thirties and forties horror which I think is a good place to start squeamish universal monster Universal Montargis augers are all really good like Dracula just get a bunch of monsters I was GonNA suggest the Francis Ford Coppola Dracula because because it's more of like a Gothic spook fest but it's just like yeah it's it's Super Goth it's like it's scary but it's more just like Gushing Sheen rivers of blood type scary like it's not like rivers of blood or not your thing are they not who's thing isn't rivers of plans of rumors of blonde the horror well but I don't think that that's scary in the same way that like the exorcist is scary in the facebook group she exposure therapy and I actually actually was like may you could just jump in with the exorcist and then you'd know everything else would be easy but I said poltergeist and Rosemary's baby because they both so much so much plot like poltergeist for instance is great because it's just funny at yards and it's it's making fun of Yuppies the Yuppies are like the real bad people when you kind of think about it so then it's like if you're scared of Yuppies yeah you get to think about that But I thought poltergeist was like a good entree entree yeah poltergeist is a good pick and Rosemary's baby I just love because it's funny but I also obviously it's a tricky one to recommend the demonic the it's like Rosemary's baby and exercise or to like I just perfect movies outside of genre and then but they also were very much like like if you have grown up like actually believing a and d then like that might not be the best way in the way you want to jump into the deep end I also so set it follows because it follows such great texture and I think like something about it follows is very seductive scariest movies now now I'm trying to think of movies that wouldn't give you nightmares but then you but you're watching orange she's trying to get over the fear I think that the monster stuff is I think vampire movies Pampers are like the least scary monster like hot businesses succeed so scared I bought the scariest movie to recommend would be pets let's cemetery for some reason we just picking the scared I recommend my mind I was like not pet cemetery not awesome conditions that should be it should be stated are like the baptism by fire that Yeah I mean I think like a good ole like gold fashion ghost or even something like I dunno like like even Rebecca or something like that like a spooky tale about a spooky house like you know very gentle a horror do you want a cool she likes Samis oh the army's but she's you know hard but she did she'll watch night of the living dot if she hasn't yet yeah I think she's wanting to expand to broaden her horizons after the zombies this Sambas do feel a little bit of like zombies don't really get me go and the way a lot of things I it feels like a little bit Zombie boom yeah but whoa whoa what about like an anthology like what like mean like I from the crib tales are excited something like that I mean you could also do something where you if you haven't I don't know twilight zone demonic but like something like that yeah thank you the TV shabby genuinely terrifying well the move for many reasons scary and yeah I still watch it sometimes so off brandon that's that's part of what makes it so creepy Kinda why people I know I think it's interesting none none of us have suggested like slasher movies has vowed to say like actually what I would do and I was always really afraid of a specially affects heavy horror movies if that's your particular poison super afraid of Freddie way too afraid to see any of those so then like a few years ago I did them all and I totally recommend that 'cause it's also just like a fun run the Freddie movies are are fun just because they're like goofy well the first one the first one is genuinely scary yeah the second one is really homo erotic the third fourth worth like then they get weird and star Patricia Arquette as like a haunted child and then they get self aware and then they turned into new nightmare here which is like an amazing Meta horror movie about the La earthquake and the effect being in the Freddie series has had on all the actors who played the characters actors will It's like a dry run for scream it's Korea we'll also recommend scream well there's something supernatural about the nightmares movies movies which is like I think puts it in more of a fun realm than just like a like just halloween or just like any kind of just highland in I would not I actually would like back not I get more bad vibes and I also like grew up religiously as well like an get more bad vibes from teenage girls getting slashed than anything in having to do with Satan or demons or anything like that like that stuff feels actually doesn't get slashed she saves a lot of other people do I love Halloween 'cause they're like cool girls who smoke pot in their car and then they also have to deal with this guy who's stalking them the crafts may be good if if you haven't seen the crowd it deals kind of head on with like you know Adolescent Girls Harnessing Their Powers rebelling craft is a good yeah yeah what are if you have any starter horror recommendations movie starter pack please call in and let us know at two zero four six nine give us a night call with your favorite night watches you can also give us an email at night call podcast at gmail.com so when we come back we are going to welcome our guest this week onto the Sir what's up guys is your bus and I've got a brand new podcast about sneaker culture legit check I'm going to be highlighting some of the most talented people in fashion music and street wear this is the first and only podcast on cast of its kind in we're happy to be giving people what they've been waiting for don't miss these exclusive interviews listener legit check on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your podcast you're welcome back tonight call we are now joined by our guest in front of the show Elena Smith she is the creator creator of Dickinson which is now available to watch on Apple TV plus we'll hey hey hey she's New York's works so this is like we're back tonight call like Oh gee night call where we're talking to the other coast Yeah Elia and this is this is really special for me because because I've been doing a lot of Preston interviews for Dickinson but this is the only press where the people that I'm talking to have known me since before I started working working on there the whole time I wanted to look up just for reference because you were one of our first guests on girls in in he's back in the day You came on around the tween Hobo days and I had to look I looked it up I googled it and the way I I can tell this was a long time ago there's a picture of Justin Bieber and he's just got like a very beginning of the wispy moustache which would become the nightmare that we know today so it will it really was twenty fourteen Back I know in tweet Hobo was defy tween Hobo was defined by her love of Bieber yeah nothing could be more outdated now so life life on the rails moves fast gotta keep up keep up with the Times I thought you were going to say that we're the only press you've done that's going to ask you for your Epstein theories I mean and that means were achieving an even greater dream of mine than having a TV show which is talking about Epstein on a podcast so Well we WANNA talk a little bit about Dickinson and yes like we've all known you since before you started working on the show proper but like I feel like you've been working on this in some fashion or another for as long as I've known you so it's like I always tell people make it so cool to actually see my friends French show she's been talking about forever realized and like seem billboards for it on sunset and stuff it's wild but yeah you're you're accessible Emily Dickinson you know and I really haven't stopped being obsessed with her it's really it's it's actually crazy that that the interest continues haven't gotten burned ironed out from just no I can't believe that I haven't but I think it's sort of like it started with Emily Dickinson and her poems and then as well I became fascinated with her biography and you know her her life story and then I have spent so long working on at the interest has kind of bled out from there into just the eighteen fifties fifties and sixties in general and and you know the literary culture and context that surrounded her and there's just so so much meat there there's so much to chew on and so many ways to kind of use that time in American history as has a filter for looking at where we are today and that's what's like really kept me going and even to the point where I mean this is so crazy Z. because as you guys know I also have eighteen month old twins yes and between my babies and this show I have no free time and yet somehow I just signed up for a four week long course on the civil war that I'm doing a bar in Brooklyn and forced to one of my other writers to take it with me and like I mean I'm just like I can't stop with with the civil wards it's really all engaging I love that you have made like the ultimate Lisa Simpson Dream Show yes yes anyone who did only Lisa would sign up for up civil work or just things like you know being like my audience is people who will be excited about casting John Mullany as Henry David Thoreau I feel like it it like you know we're canceling thorough but that like literally the that was trending on twitter a month ago ago that somebody's tweet about how throws mom did his laundry went viral and I'm just like come on yeah I thought it comes up every every lake several several years that becomes like a new fun fact he's like we've known about this well well we've dramatized featuring the comic gifts of John Mullany so yeah I mean I I was always a huge fan of the transcendental lists in general all that spiritualism stuff you guys transcendental heads tests just gave a look into like Emmerson I wasn't I wasn't over into all this guy and I also tech's Moby Dick Moby Dick Molly's I hi ready from Jay Dick Forever no I mean I mean it's the thing is that it is it is really good it's just I I look back at I I read Moby Dick when I was like in my twenties living in Brooklyn and I just remember reading it on the subway a lot and it really was an absolutely you know existential existential transcendent experience but I just feel like I am I feel like I don't read anymore and I'm I I don't know although now I'm actually going on a trip to Russia which is another podcast but I'm going to rush and I'm thinking maybe I have to read warranties so you're going to promote the show or just for fun are you going to the game yes yeah I gotta see what's I gotta just ask a few questions around Sir Watch out you should definitely read Warren piece all the Russian novels also rule read Anna Karenina I have not read bannon monster transcendental took a year to read like like completely like I like absorbed myself delve into it that book is amazing I keep asking people which one I should read Anna Karenina or war and peace and like do have adamant opinions about got it we also do an occur in a totally like the Hornets nest yeah it is it's it's so horny you'll love it it's very tortured I haven't read were impeach though so I can't really honestly say one is better than the other but that's that is on my shortlist if things or slaps as they say also sucks yeah I mean Intel as far as I can tell from the like you know spark notes that I've been googling about Warren piece it illuminates the way in which we're all just specks of dust on the grand canvas of history yeah I kind of feel like I get into that and a current enough got some real class politiken and it to which you will also dig I can only picture Keira Knightley now when I think about did you see the movie no I must have seen the post pretty good it's not bad isn't it like atonement if you like that sort of thing winging sometimes I do I like to fantasize about places where it's very cold because obviously obviously I wouldn't have made Dickinson if I didn't WANNA GET INTO DOC period game to call it I definitely have you talked to doctor Zhivago no should watch that it's so and also oh yeah I have definitely I feel like that's very much kind of the visual tone up Dickinson which has the pilot instructor by David Gordon Green who doesn't amazing easing job but yeah make it's like so romantic swimming and beautiful and visually beautiful your costumes gotten some good repressed like pre airing buzz the costumes role I mean I all I can think of is like that beautiful red dress that hailee Steinfeld fell's wearing and the trailer I'm like DAB think Dickenson Dickinson core is gonNA catch on I absolutely do in fact I think it's already started I don't know if you guys have noticed the amount of puffed sleeves I am and it's really lucky for me not only because it is so on brand for Dickinson but also that is a silhouette that I look good in and you know as an older woman I just want to commit to a silhouette that works for me as an older woman what the prairie look I didn't seem like a panther and excavation of like why this is the thing right now and I I think it's quite subversive like the whole Bat Sheva dress I reject though I can't really subversive oh I feel like it's it's like it's like kind of adjacent to the handmaid's tale type thing you like like I'm going to cover my body look like at Christmas present at the same time the idea I I will never accept that like an entirely cover your body like binding and difficult to wear garment is transgressing. That's what that does not bind extremely floyd very uncomfortable if a if something covers your whole body you WanNa like tear a hole hole in the only only if there's a fire going on in southern California Mary Unappealing Dangerous Itchy if you put me in like a prairie dress I would get so so I have a very dressy it's made of ray on it's like very soft and nice about Chevy addresses seem like they collect dust I hate there's lots of nooks and crannies hate the look only looks good on really tall really skinny people that specific Stephen and they could do better I think it's just not my I'll tell you guys also another Style style tip from the world of Dickinson so so it was very important to us that we got all the details right about the period a at least at least that we knew what the truth was before we decided to alter but most of the time we really did stick to the truth but one of the places where it was really difficult was with women's hair because women's hair in the eighteen fifties was just so hideous and the men's hair is fabulous like if you look at these photographs of Austin Dickinson and his amherst college classmates from the eighteen forties ladies and they all have the most luscious like hipster hair that just looks perfect so every guy we cast we had to tell them as soon as we cast them not not to cut their hair because everyone has like this long so fluffy shock of hair yeah and but but the men's looks in general role I think were like just really attractive and almost every man that got in the costume was onset at one point would be like why don't I dress I like this top hat top hat makes you a foot taller and it makes you look so elegant and now okay okay but as I'm saying this I want to underline something which is that it's very important to me that this never go anywhere near steam punk this is Joanie strictly clearly like Dandy Dan thank you yeah this is Yankee doodle Dandy like the Sheikh can we talk about Yankee doodle Dandy because I just learned about that that macaroni was like a do you know about this this is why you said that I think I've heard this because of my extensive review of what what is it was like a slang term for men who were like foppish and wore a lot of like fine

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Classical Classroom, Episode 181: The Magicians - Daron Hagen on Orson Welles

Classical Classroom

44:31 min | 2 years ago

Classical Classroom, Episode 181: The Magicians - Daron Hagen on Orson Welles

"What you are about to witness has never been performed in front of a podcast audience before audio prestigious nation that is to see sleight of hand, or I guess in this case slight of ear. Sorry. In this episode. I chat with composer, Daron Haagen about his opera Orson rehearsed which is about Orson Welles best known as the director of the movie citizen Kane and the radio drama war of the worlds, and I'm using the term opera loosely here because what Darren is actually created just kind of uses opera as a jumping off point. He in the form of opportunities rearranged it into something new. What he has to teach us in this episode is both about fascinating person that was Orson Welles and about the creative use form in music. That's been around for a very long time this interview and Chretien are in fact magic tricks and Darren does the thing that magicians are sworn never to do. He tells us all of the tricks of how he pulls off his new opera thing. I, of course, will never tell the secrets of Maya trade, but ever that is also speaking of magic, it would be magical if you head over to I tunes or wherever you listen to us and subscribe to rate and review, the show, tell your friends and family about us, tell your enemies too. It'll make them better people. And now a word from our sponsor Meister classics was created in two thousand four by Steven Simon conductor of the Washington chamber symphony and executive director Bonnie signing for years their family. Programs. Introducing classical music to families play to sell out crowds of the Kennedy Center and were praised by the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal maestro classics was created to record share. These works for narrator orchestra to the world recorded at the Abbey Road studios. Beatles with the London fill these recordings contain some of the finest children's music, ever produced true story. Learn more at maestro classics at maestro classics dot com, and you can save seventeen percent on all CDs an MP threes with the code classroom. You know, classical classroom. There's a rumor going around that classical music can be quite he toity. But here in the class will classroom, we beg to differ Beethoven. Prospal music is Wayne after feel restricted active certain way, that's not going to be helpful going forward shaking with excitement. I mean, there's just so many great parts of the opera PS me to play his favorite spot in the first one. Crowns, by started using those Lixin megastar solos. How be classical music Rockstars because there's not enough of that in this business keizer plug in Bamenda me to my store. I don't change my voice talking to class. I'm playing classical music now. I mean, yeah. Same twelve notes. That's what's so cool about it. I'm basically, a classical music newbie, and I'm trying to learn all I can about the music. Come learn with me, and the classical music experts, I invite into the classical classroom. Dacia? It's not like, you know, what you're doing or something. I don't that's the whole. Okay. All right. Listen. Let's stop talking, and let's just do this because I enjoy your company so much that let's just do it. Yeah. Let's stop talking and start talking. Right. Right. Exactly. Here. We go. Hello, everyone and welcome to the classical classroom. I am Dacia clay and here with me from the cat friendly radio arts foundation in New York is Darren Haagen. This is third time on classical classroom. Darren is a composer conductor librettist, so many other things he's been commissioned by symphonies and operas all over the place, including the symphony and opera here in Seattle. And he's been celebrated by people that you may have heard of like, JoAnne, Florida and Leonard Bernstein, forget sakes, DARREN'S been in the classroom before to talk about the work of other composers. But today, we're going to talk about his own work a Newark called Orson rehearse, which is just going to quote, his website to describe this. A broadly elastic multimedia musical dramatic press to digitization and also you can brush your teeth with it. I hope you'll teach me something about the need or lack thereof for form and an opera and other kinds of music like that today Darren welcome to the classical classroom. Oh, it's so good to hear your voice again Dacia. You. So let's jump into it. I wanna talk I because the thing about the this work, and I don't even know what call it. But we're gonna get to that later. Let's talk about the story. I did you write the libretto. I guess we're calling it for this. Yes, I suppose one would begin with a scenario and then from a scenario you'll go to a treatment from a treatment to the Bredow. And I've co written a number of Brada's. This is my twelfth opera. That's very scary. And sounds like I'm very old. But. It really is that I've, you know, this is a circus that I've visited before and I've gone to the point where I really wanted to do some in-depth exploration of a moment. So what I did was took the last hour of Orson Welles life and had the audience brought into his brain as he was experiencing the heart attack that claimed him ultimately now, everyone knows who are some wells was I hope but interesting we should we should clarify that he he was he was a director o- ever so much more. He was a director was a producer. He was an actor. He was visual artist. He was a writer. He was also politician. He wrote speeches for empty are. He would coach FDR in public. Speaking of all things and briefly considered a run for Senate against McCarthy. Wow. Yeah. He would've probably he was would have been a great candidate, obviously. But he would have probably been a terrible Senator because not a lot of interest in the actual governing. But a lot of interest in the communication. He was a a complete polymath, and he was someone who didn't fit into the traditional production scenario of Hollywood. He was an all toward he liked. It's not elect to do things on his own or that. He didn't appreciate being told. What to do? It's that. He was so good at so many different things that it was hard to contain him. Wow. Well, you know, and of course, he made citizen Kane, and he yeah. And he was the voice of the war of the worlds that the great here. We are around Halloween if I can specify when we're recording this one of the all time great Halloween pranks was his broadcast of the war of the worlds. And he also was the the director of the cradle will. Rock Mark blitstein, great labor opera during the twenties that to this day constitutes perhaps the greatest moment in live American music theatre history. Now would like how did Orson Welles kind of come into your life? Like why why is he an important figure for you? Well, when I was in fifth grade in Wisconsin, mister Cummings my teacher had the LP's of the original war of the worlds broadcast and played them of Halloween at school. And I was so taken with it that a few weeks later, I recreated the entire broadcast with my buddies over the school public address system. Ever since then I've huge Orson Welles fan. Nice. And he was a he was Wisconsin. Boy like me what what's not to love. Why why focus on the last hour his life? You sort of touched on the fact that you you wanted to really focus in on a moment as an artistic exercise, I'm guessing. But like why that moment? Well, you know, there's that old cliche of a person's life. Russia's before there is in their final moments. It's a perfect setup for an examination of someone's life. But it's also a great opportunity to fracture, the usual storytelling methods. You know, that you can create a non linear narrative that is in fact, leg DNA, I had I split up Orson into three or some wells a young middle dying Orson. So he saw himself simul. Tena he would sing trios with himself. And ultimately and later manifestations on us peace. They'll be Marlena Dietrich will be an Ed and Rita Hayworth his wife and oil code ours. His final partner they'll be singing with him as well. So he he's time space memory imagination all become part of the mix. So that at any given time in a piece lake this you've got the equivalent of a page or two of Joyce's Ulysses, let's say. Who can capture an entire mind, but you can capture some of the great synapses in geniuses mind. And of course, he was a genius. So everything about this is malleable everything about it the way that you set it up is is changeable, and it, you know, it says here on the website that it takes a different shape every time that it's performed that you know, may be staged or unstaged may in fact, not exist at all except as a set of options this this is madness to me. Yes. As nygren. Isn't art meant to give like form, and and meaning to to life, which is an otherwise of arbitrary bunch of information and action if art isn't accommodating life, don't you just have madness anarchy. But here's where we come into the slate slate of hand, if you have a seventy minute piece and every three to five minutes consists of a pre composed chunk of of electro Kucic and live players and the beginning and the end our pre composed and they're probably five minutes each you already have probably fifteen minutes of music pre-selected. And if you want to spend time with each major character, you wanna give each one an Ari of their own so at some point in the evening each guy gets five minutes. So this fifteen minutes there. So this piece lasts an hour. Half an hour of it is already predetermine. Nd? It's the other half an hour that is going to be chosen on the fly by whoever the director is of that production and the parts will arrive on the ipads of the orchestra players and on a screen backstage players will know about thirty seconds before the next scene begins which the switch scene is going to happen next. So the person who is the the magician for that performance sits out in the audience with a little app on his phone reads, and feels how the audience is reacting to what they're seeing and chooses the next scene accordingly. Wow. So there is in fact, a great deal of order, but there is the illusion of anarchy. And and it is in that creation of illusion that suspension of disbelief is encouraged because you you are encouraged to go with the flow. So you know, we have to talk for a secondary gang. Can't do this. This thing that you've done. You're messing with form here, man. It's true. The it is unacceptable. Your that? Is the thing to do it. It's the ultimate I'm such a bad. Boy now. It's it's that what in theatre I've always loved the fact that if particularly in lyric theatre what you're doing is you're trying to go for the nuclear reactor of human experience, which is the moment of truth. The moment of greatest emotion, the you know, what the Greeks called a Piff une-. Right. And so if if you're going to to do that, and you wanna get rid of all the cheetah Teves, which are the dull parts, right? And you wanna get rid of all the way you have to say that word again, rich. She thought Tiv. Oh, that's right. It's classical faster. I'm sorry dating. You gotta teach us, man. Well, remember, the the Richie to Tiv is reciting. It's the right, okay. In traditional opera and some composers. And some opera lovers would would insist that most operas today consists, primarily of Richie Tiv, which is a quantum sing sing song getting rid of texts. Sort of you know. I have to go to take out the garbage now prone, but it already smells bad Brome. Take it out behind the garage. Okay. Don't. And then there comes an aria about taking out the garbage, right? You're you're contrasting emotions about that. That is the traditional role for cheetah Tiv is to get there. So anyways, how do you get rid of that entirely in focus on the good bits? And that's sort of what Orson rehearsed does it gets straight to the important moments. And it's not just an exploration of icily of wells. What it takes us it? Well wells with my experiences. So that I can express myself through wells as an avatar then for me, I've got myself as Orson Welles would say the world's best trained set or the world's biggest play pan an opportunity really to focus on her sing. With the actors playing the clarinet that is in the room to discover and to create a work of art that will never go the same way twice. So so just to make sure have wrapped my head around this accurately, you you have basically taken out all of the plot development, the the story development, and you've gone straight for the action scenes, right? And that is what we're witnessing here. So, you know, there's no there's no exposition going on. It's all in your face action. And yes as right and yes. And the thing that twist your Nedal is, of course, since taking place in his mind. The action is all emotional and psychological. Yeah. This is. So there are no sort fights. But there are emotional and psychological sword fights, and the, and we all know inherently there is no drama in the fact that we knew it's the last half hour last hour of his life. He's going to die. So we know that we're heading inevitably toward his demise sense that bit of traditional narrative drama is taken from us the audience, and then sort of sits back and says, well, you know, which way is this magic trick gonna go. That's why it's called Preston detail wells thought of himself as a magician, and he was in fact, member of the what is it the guild of magicians, and he loves away as he loved doing magic tricks and much of what the revelation of truth is in magic in theater is is done through sleight of hand. Right. We don't we can't actually stage of murder on stage. But what? We can do is we can create the context through slate of hand through the magic of theater with tell me what you mean by that. Well, you know, murdering somebody on stage is not dramatic one of the things that arson wells new the best one. And we we see that in something like bore the world's is if there's a murder offstage, the audience's imagination is gonna make it twice as horrible as it would be thing. See it. That's suspense. Right. And that's what Hitchcock. Yeah. Drove interesting like I was just thinking as you're explaining the mechanics of how this sort of Preston digitization happens where everybody I it seems to be arbitrary seems to be happening. Just improvisational. But in fact, has guidance like how how you're pulling that trick off. Absolutely. An all magic tricks are really really carefully rehearsed. Yeah. And you can now to so many composers performers, you know, in order to make it look like play there. You know, there are thousands of hours of practice behind that make it look spontaneous. Yeah. To make it look spontaneous. That is really something. It seems to me though. Like that part of incorrect me if I'm wrong part of the way that you're carrying off this this magic trick is that you're putting. King the moment before someone dies the moment before this very important and very intense. Someone dies, and the this sort of nature of that kind of moment, which is really intense. And and really, you know, why flashing before your eyes all of that kind of stuff that you're kind of putting that in the seat of importance as you're sort of. That that is the focus rather than all of the other stuff that goes into making an opera, would it is everything else is sort of in service and service. That's that's great. That's terrific observation. I think you nailed it the setup you just described the setup and the execution is what I just talked about. But when you think about it the way that you one can justify this is the interrelations between all of the pieces are so intense. And so close that they hook up with each other and define through context. One. Another just Justin I hate to say, the Joyce is Joyce sort of the model here if you've ever read Ulysses, you can read the whole thing, and you get an idea. But then who really unless they're really a devotee of Joyce reads more than three or four pages of Ulysses. Cheese and a. But any tour three pages of Ulysses is a free standing artwork in and of itself and an aesthetic experience. So the the sense that one makes of this piece is you've got all the raw material you need at any given time to draw some conclusions. But the most important thing is that it lands emotionally. Nobody needs know anything about or sin wells. But you learn a lot about him the emotions that he feels are universal. You know? All right. That was the alarm on my phone that rings tells me that I have to take my kids off the bus. Very sorry. You're going to be really sad that you're not there right now. Yeah, they're going to have to live lives on the street and get Joe gonna be well, we'll street urchin exactly because their father was on the radio because you had to be unclassical classroom. This is what I did for you Dacian. You're a giver aren't just a giver. Anyway, it's all gets a bit Hetty. And I think that that's a beautiful thing that that alarm went off because that grounds us because we do think about the day to day, the quotidian and getting the kids off the bus and making the mortgage payment and all of these other things. But at the last moment, what do you think about you think about the things that you ever grads about the people you loved the universals? And so when you boil something down without linking material to the universals. You don't have to know anything about that person to feel it with them. And that's that's what hopper tries to do. So what I'm really trying to do is distill thirty five years of writing operas to that which I've learned turns me on the most about those moments. This sort of emotionally heightened moments where you is a person actually connect. With the with the music with the art. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Absolutely. Check out the new classical classroom website at class will classroom show dot com to see an example of the website work. Our friends at new I can do for you. In fact, did you know that you can now leave us an actual tip on our website. If you are so moved. They can also help you with promotion to make sure the world knows about your shiny, new website and your business for more info, go to classical classroom show dot com slash in w that's in as a new and w as in y okay now back to my chat with Darrin Haagen. I wonder you know, I listen to to some of this that you sent me. And I was wondering about the actual instrumentation in this in kind of how you arrived at it. What you're doing with the music and his piece in general because I heard everything from chimes and maracas invited to samples of Orson Welles voice said tell me what you were doing there. And why why those particular things? Well, it wasn't actually Orson Welles voice or maybe maybe fourteen twelve seconds of Orson Welles voice. But I settled myself affair mountain and altered my voice, and that's part of the press to detail. The magic major of this the score for this first iterative that we did in Chicago consisted fifty percent of electro coup stick prerecorded things electro acoustic, meaning that you're you're using a combination of of like instruments that might be more associated with rock music like guitars and things like that and more typical like a Symphony Orchestra variety instruments. Yes. I'm so glad you said that. No, actually, they might be included. But the the electric element is just as in film nowadays, it consists of not just Muzy credit, which are found sounds from our daily lives like footsteps and rain and things like that. But also samples of five to fifteen seconds stretches of my long symphonic catalog and chamber music catalog that I own stretching back forty years manipulated in the studio. Also, a limited use of the prepackaged loops that you can license cheaply online Midi all sorts of different things. And also a few you know, I would have a performer come in and play me a few licks just to have a free soul of living person. And that track it is only fifty. Percent of what you hear in concert or in performance. The other fifty percent is which ever living musicians participate in that performance. And in this first case, it was the fifth house on samba eleven live instruments that created a chamber orchestra living human beings that intermeshed with the prerecorded sounds so that and we're mixed. So that the audience never could differentiate who was real and was prerecorded interesting. And this is but see the lovely thing about this is what we go to the movies. We hear that all the time. When I first started writing up and things like that. The idea was all it must be strictly acoustic, or it's not going to, you know, be pure or something like that. I'm not quite sure what the justification was. But I've I've been sneaking pre records not into flesh out and make small orchestra some big. But just to avail myself of the Yulia Latian 's of other. Cultures and all sorts of extended vocalism 's without having to put forty people in the pit. Them into my shows for twenty years, and if it's done, well, no one can tell no one bothers and audiences is just so accustomed now to to hearing it that that there's nothing particularly innovative about what I'm doing. All I'm doing is using tools that that the commercial fellas have been using for a long long time that then those two elements are combined with live singers. And the instrumental are also asked to sing periodically because why not? Sure, why not. And it's I suppose, you know, if there is a if there is an aesthetic stance. The styles of the music are all over the map too. I mean, it's wells had a had a magnificent sense of the breadth of world music of different kinds of music. For instance, if Bernard Hermann hadn't come out to Hollywood as wells sort of chosen composer. Her mind would have had a great career on these coast as a concert music composer. Likewise wells. Loved all sorts of different kinds of music and and have an acute sensitivity. He would remix all of the sounds on his soundtracks and often would reverse other characters in his movies when he didn't like the actual performance of the actor who did the role who it would dub their performance for them. So do you ever do that with with women? What an excellent what an excellent question to out of curiosity. I'm just imagining his deep voice. This is orelon wells as. Who knows you'd have to? I'm not. I'm by no means an Orson Welles aficionado. I'm a I'm a fan because he was so so darn smart. And so so creative and and lived such a large large life. Yeah. Seems like he's a very engaged interested person. What that's the perfect comment. Yeah. I mean, we should we should remain engaged and not fearsome. He I don't think that he was ever frayed. He the night that he died. He had just appeared that afternoon on the Merv Griffin show and had spoken with great love of Rita Hayworth and of Garbo and. And then he went out to dinner with friends at mom as his favorite restaurant and had a wonderful conversation over meal, and then he came home, and and he worked on shooting sprigged for something that was gonna take place the next day up until the very last moment he may have felt like a bit of a shipwreck. But as he said to Mr. Todd, his his great mentor in a long phone call. They purportedly had the evening that he died for a shipwreck. He was all he was too busy to sink. Up until his last moments. He was working that he'd been sick leading up to that moment. And also how old was he when he died. Oh, boy, I think I'll have to check Wikipedia for that. He died on the tenth nineteen eighty five. And he was born in nineteen fifteen. So he lived to be seventy. Okay. And he, you know, he it pains me, and it's it's so much an artifact of our culture that when you type Orson Welles into Google. Oftentimes, the first thing that comes up is that horrible Palmisano ad that he he did because he was drunk during shooting of a commercial. No way. Oh, it's terrible. I think you can write in drunk Orson, and it comes right up and for a man who had accomplished so much to be brought so low to be raising money for his films is is really quite Shakespearean. And for a man who as a very young man did a concordance of how to bring Shakespeare everybody's Shakespeare it's called to young people. Who was clearly a genius has been very very difficult for him to watch the rise of George Lucas, and and the rest of his generation and to know that he had started at the top to make citizen Kane, which is still understood to be one of the two or three greatest films ever made at gaining of your career think how hard it is to start at the top and work your way down for the rest of your life. That is the the opposite problem of most artists he came out of the gate. Eight great. And then I'm guessing spent the rest of his life having to live up to that moment of of greatness. That's a good point. What time does telescopes in reverse? He had a good twenty five or thirty years when he was at the top of his game and arguably remained at the top of his game. It's that the world did not give him the opportunities. And he has shooed many of the opportunities that would have allowed him to continue to be in the public eye at the top of his game. Also, the here's a critical thing. The reason I call it Orson rehearsed is because of his great gloss on Moby, Dick Moby. Dick, rehearsed. Rehearsed. Yeah, it's a it was his idea to to stage Moby, Dick. But very early on in rehearsals. He realized that he enjoyed rehearsing it. More than performing it. So what he did is. This was in London. He created an omnibus sort of a sandbox piece called Moby Dick rehearsed where every time it was performed. It was different is see now, here's where I get my idea. And sometimes he would gauge what was going on in the audience, and he's he's shoved one of his team out. There said do the the p quad scene where this happens now. And then if things were just going cold in the audience, he might come out and do a monologue or talk about being Orson Welles. It was the Orson Welles variety show through the miles of Moby, Dick. This was back in London in the sixties. I think and he was already there. My I posit that. In fact, having started at the top even by the time he got to the second third four films like Amerson, and it's all true and the films that he just started leaving in hotel rooms half cut or cut. I think that he enjoyed. Rehearsing them and shooting them and going through the process of making film and theater far more than he enjoyed the process of having to sit there in a movie theater. Having critics judge him. I think that he decided quite rightfully as many artists do that was much more fun making art than having to endure the results of having made. Do you think that was born out of win? You are creating a piece of art. You're recording a piece of music painting. Whatever there is a point at which you have to call it, even though you know, that future you is going to maybe not be completely satisfied with with the work that you've done or may just hate it. Because past you was stupid, or what have you know? If you're self critical person. Do you do you think that there is some of that in wells that he? In you know, because when you when you do that when you release something out into the world, you're releasing out there for the public to judge for I'm hearing future self to judge. I think that that is again, I hate to compliment you because why should I say anything nice about anybody? But it's a great question. And here's the irony. Maybe this is why we're talking today. Here's my stance on this question in Seattle. I wrote an opera for that company called Amelia, the end of the opera consists of a woman giving birth to a daughter named Amelia, she has surrounded by hospital technicians and her doctor and so forth. But during the course of the opera has been revealed that these are the actors who also portrayed her her missing father and her husband and her best friend and other people, and it it emerges that at the moment of giving birth to this child. She becomes open to the possibilities of being truly alive. Now for me. This was a great opinion. I had felt that after ten operas finally really gotten it. Right. I had shared my truth capital, t now, the sounds pretentious, and very portentous and very heavy, and it was all of these things and it was a number of years ago. So a little boy who my first son was only about a year old. So I was coming to terms of these. And I had always since the death of my mother many many years before felt surrounded by my ghosts. And this woman Amelia, and this opera was surrounded by her ghosts who all came back and were in fact, waked at the end of this opera, and I realized wow, there it is. I finally did it and my wife, and I left McCaw hall, and it was. Raining, of course. And I said, I did it. That's it. I nailed it. And I didn't say to my wife because I knew not to tempt the wrath of the thing atop the thing. But I felt like wow. Now, the audience really it's going to reward me. The critics are going to Sam genius. It's going to be. And you know, what it was good? It was a success. It was every bit of a success that the company wanted and the Commissioner was very happy. And I've was personally deeply fulfilled by the journey that I had taken as a creator with my colleagues and my collaborators, okay? So about a month later, I realized oh, wow. I was the only one who really really felt that way. Maybe handful of other people may have. But to my Piff Unie was to the other people in the theater, a good night in the theater, and maybe even an excellent night nothi. But all it was was a night in the theater. And for me. This was I know that this sounds ridiculous. But for me this this had the power of a revelation. I had been for twenty five or thirty years working toward the moment when I would really get it. Right. And once I got it, right? I realized that getting it, right? Wasn't the point. That it was the process of getting it, right? I almost stopped composing after Amelia, and I I'm really took me a long time to realize, oh, this is when I started directing, oh, it's the process of of staging Amelia that was the good part. It was the process of the performance. It was the process of getting up to the birth of new work and wells always he did release the films that that he could. But I think that my feeling about a premier now of an opera is that I I don't want to curse it. And I don't want to sound as though in any way prideful or hubristic, but I don't really care about the critical reaction anymore because I've already taken all of the the deep fulfillment. I need as a creative person from the process of making the work with other people and bring it to life and going through the process of doing it. And I like to think that or. John wells felt the same way. At least that's what I'm projecting onto wells in this piece that the process was more important than the than the double bar at the end. So he wasn't. I don't think he was fearful at all. I don't think he was afraid of anything. I think he was he knew quite well that his position and history was secure if he cared about that at all and one one thing that Orson Welles did say, which I which I take to heart is that what difference does your name make in the end, you know, our works. He said something the effect that are works last ma'am last a millennial or two, but even then they're washed away by history and very few things last. So what is important the now to be here now to create the art go through the process, which is a profound, secular, humanist expression. And ultimately wanna faith that people are up to the challenge? But whether it will be remembered. What does he care? What did he cares? Which brings us full circle to the fact that you've created this new work. That's really all about the process. You're having your cake and eating it too here. You're getting this live show. That's all about making a life show. Yeah. I'm it took us a while to get there. But I guess now we've created the context where my my motivation makes probably more sense and one hopes that the audience goes for the ride and the the the true trial run was when the audience test, drove it in Chicago. And and people were genuinely moved. Darren Haagen, you have blown my mind once again. Oh. I feel like this interview itself has been pressed to digitization wasn't an interview we made people think that it was well, we came full circle just as we had hoped we would. And I think that that is a testament to your prowess as an interviewer we didn't even discuss it beforehand that it would happen like that well for well, I we we can reveal that for thirty seconds. We started talking about something. But then we said, hey, we gotta stop talking. So we can set your aging talking. Take care of my friend, Dan, this has been awesome. Thank you so much for being back on the show again anytime, you've got something new. Gimme a holler. Okay, everybody that does it for this episode for more classroom. Go classical classroom show dot com, by the way, our website has some pretty sweet new features. You can download free lesson plans and study guides for many of our episodes. You can leave us a message. 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You grew up on a symbol, your father owned a sailboat, you know, your father owns sailboat feeling you've been sailing on the sailboat we know that there'd be done translate. You live on her something did I say I lived on the sailboat I said that I grew up with my dad's sailboat what does that mean you grew up with your dad sailboat? No, he he's talking about. He grew up around the sailboat, I know that sounds like your group maiming grew up. I grew up my father at us. Welcome to the show, folks. By the way, I didn't know that we'd started. I'm sorry, the Philander so of this show. Really good, man. We'll try and do it better. I, hey, hey, wait. I grew up around sailing as a young man until you know, my father mother got divorced. But my father had the sailboat for years, and yeah, we went down, and we and I thought, hey, you know, I live near the ocean. There's a harbor right down the street. What the hell am I doing? But you know, what do you think you're some kind of a David is thinks he's what it kept in a ham or something? Oh, you're not doing for Moby. Dick. For the dictionary. Hey, wait a minute. Like, those these little asides in but watch it will you talk about Moby, Dick. It's a book, man. It's a book a guy wrote a book, you never heard of Moby Dick the book. Never mind. You check both. So what are you trying to tell me? You're some. Hey skipper. I'm just saying I think it would be really fun to to relax go out on a sailboat. Do you? Remember anything about sailing? Phil I understand. I don't know. What if you about? It's very specific. Yeah. There is a lot of specificity to. Well. What are you know about it? Man. Nothing any of you. You all you out there. Listen, I was in the army. Okay. Well, what do you know about sailor? Yeah. I know how to sail I don't know. I'm not gonna take on a thirty foot sailboat syllabi myself right off the bat. But there's people that I know friends we can go out. And I think it would be a lot of fun. Let's talk about price. She, you know, you're not the richest guy on her. But I bet you anything I could find a used sailboat what kind of a sailboat. Did you follow him? Is this a mustard, and you didn't have your dead had an old one that had been you know, like that had been what wasn't used as a frigate or something. What do you mean a frigate? No, it was a thirty. It was a thirty three. Foot road sloops sailboat it had would hope right. Oh, what it had a Woodhall? It had a woodville teak deck. This is back when you still saw wooden sailboats. What do you want from me? They don't have samples anymore. I don't know. Yeah. I don't either to be honest with you. I don't I have no idea. I probably not probably having as fiberglass or some kind of new kind of material. I haven't seen a wooden feel. But by God, I thought the other night Franken, we're watching he Largo, you know, the movie key Largo, general key Largo, dammit mortgage. Yes, jahmai. What do you do that? I don't know if the man can hear me, I'm not one hundred and fifty years old. Yeah. I know key Largo you talk. What do you mean the movie? What is she talking about? Have you seen the movie key Largo? Yeah. The one with bogert. Yes. Now that movie featured I think that film featured bogies own powerboat, the inboard the sent the santee any right? No, the Santana, the the San. Tanna that was the name of Humphrey Bogart's both in a movie in real life. That's the name of his boat in real life. And he had it right out of Newport Beach is a matter of fact, an interesting story. All right, Phil we've got to settle in for one of his stories. Okay. Well, excuse me. I won't do that. Then, you know, filet that you're going to check the levels because they're all over the board. Yeah. I got anyway. So we're glad to have you with us, folks. Sorry, I'm talking around you and above your heads. And but he threw and I don't think anything we've been saying over the audiences head believe you me. Well, I don't think so either. But I don't think of knowledged the audience and thanks for being with me, folks. And thanks for being with us all last week during our art bell roll out a lot of people like that. Yeah. Got a lot of good feedback on it. We did. And who knows we may do something similar like that in the future? No, what's up? Try caster tonight. Who knows man says jumping all over the place real jumping all squirrelly a video tonight's kinda jumpy. So we apologize for that, folks. And maybe I moved to fast who knows. Seven a hard time keeping up with you feel interesting little sketch. I don't know how many of you were here for the pre show, but Phil did a sketch. You know, what I, you know, sketch? Yeah, I know. All right, Phil. And just anyway, and he pretended. He was the Tri caster computer giving himself a hard time. You know? Well, I thought it was funny. I did skews me. There's no coffeemate well, then make it. But once you go make some cough. So we will. Yeah. So we hope that we can repeat that that fun fun thing. That was our art bell. Of course. I don't want anybody to die the things. Don't somebody's gotta die for you to Jim who's going to die. If you didn't something similar, nobody. Nobody don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. So we were happy to do it. It was a lot of fun and all of those, of course, are available at podcast one on soundcloud. They are available on the free feeds that exist on those two platforms. We keep it free for a day. Then everything goes behind our pay wall. Here the Phil Emery show website. But as I mentioned the platform the podcast one. For instance, has our our our podcast Hillary show podcast. This little thing that we do. And it's there for a number of weeks before it again retreats find shelter goes behind the pay wall. Now, the whole reason why fills bringing up this boat things because you wanna talk to west Winston over there at the challenge yacht club. Right. I do I get on the phone in general taco say that again, but I'm gonna get him on the phone in general talk to him get him on the phone and the general. Yeah. Okay. This is what it sounded like, but it did. But the. Just to fan. Yeah. Yeah. Westwood's to please. Is this the flip with your? Here. But Dickman what do we do this on the air? Yeah. Where we do sh- TIMMY, the full they west Phil Hendrie yet. They talked to him wis. Yeah. General show. What's it? Look like. Yeah. Well, let me tell you something Henry's here. Yeah. He wants to buy a boat. I don't know. He thinks he's skipper Frank or something. Anyway, I have the phone please for high Westville Henry can I put you on the air? Can I put you on ear not right now? What are you doing laundry? It was going to teach a washboard. You're only kidding west. Hold on west high general Shaw, he wants to put you on the air sun on the air. Why are we doing this now sh-? Yeah. You know, we being by on the air. Don't you? It's a term it meets west. I'd like to put you on the air. Yes. Or no. You don't know going on the air means let me west. Hi, Margaret grey now, we've never met you right here. Yeah. Thanks, wes. I'll do Kimmy too. Great. You disconnected it. But I didn't just connected. You grabbed it he grabbed what you asses when the guy when we get the guy back. I talked to him the understand, wait a minute, son. Don't call me and ask smile when you say that general Shaw, I when we get him back. But all right lanes busy. It's probably trying to call us back. This is west Winston, folks. He's the Commodore at the Channel Islands yacht club down the street. All I'm going to ask him about is what I'm going to ask the guy about is is a purchasing a boat. I know they sell them don't they got a lot of boat sales over there you go to the boat basin. Mr. over there too. Like the the boatyard yet. What about the boat yard? What about the boat yard go there? I've been to the boat yard way. I don't know if he's just one of its wonder if you've been to a boatyard I've been to a boat yard. Yeah. Okay. Was he's in his core. He's going home right now. But we can talk. Hey whisked. Yeah. There's fill Henry and Michigan. Get. Hi, west is Phil Hendrie? How are you buddy? I am very good. How are you? I'm fine. I wanted to talk to you. We haven't met the Commodore there at the Channel Islands, right? Yes. We have not met. I'm interested in purchasing a boat. Okay. You want to powerboat? He wanna salable. I'm interested in purchasing a sailboat. Okay. What size how many mass, you know, how well a sloop single master. Maybe thirty thirty five foot. Okay. Well, we've got some litter. We got the a journey and we've got a couple of cows. Those are the brand the names of the manufacturers you'd wanna come over and take a look at him. I guess. Yeah. When do you are you there everyday? I'm here every day. I'm here a couple of hours a day. Now, you wanna get a boat with a again, it's a sailboat, right? A sale to sail boat. Okay. So that has a big sale and. Okay. Now, the the mast how many are there on the sloop? Yes, sir. What's the single best a single masked? Okay. We were very informal. Phil. I need to tell you too that the yacht club burned former we don't adhere to a lot of the old aways such as what well some of the terminology that a lot of the old timers insist on okay, I had a father that sale. They learned you know, they they were pretty hard ass about it. Oh, I know that they all everybody wants to show the big sailor. You know, they want to show up for. Hey, look at me. I've got I got a friend of mine. Mr. Henry has sale buddy says, hey, hey, a winch in that means full sheet. And I'm like, you know, I mean this rope. Oh, he goes nuts. Oh, yeah. Well, that's the way. So you send you guys don't do that. No. We I don't I don't know about anybody else. But I'm not gonna have somebody threaten me because I didn't say line. So. Mean some sheet? What's the what you said the main so sheep, what is that? It's a bunch of ropes. It's the their lines that are attached to the boom that that essentially they control the boom. Well, the yeah. Okay. If you wanna call it. They're a bunch of ropes that are tied to the thing comes to match, you know, and you can if you you can tighten it or you can loosen it you went you went you down very goes. If you want to do what you do Mr. Henry villes fills using the right, medical terminology. Right. Sure. I mean. But like I said, and I'm not attributing Mr. Henry, but we've got a lot of these guys who think they want to go, you know, let's put the let's we're wedding before the wind. I heard a guy say that the other day. Well, okay. Speaking of that does the do most of these come with spinnakers, they come with what you mean, the big balloon type sale. That's the big balloons. I've seen that. Yeah. It's a big balloon guy ask if they come to the balloon sale. You call them the balloon sale. Yeah. It's the one that the big spinnaker. Well, you don't hey, look west Phil wants to use those is that what he's supposed to do when when you're over here at the Channel Islands yacht club Ville, I gotta tell you. It's all different. So when you say, hey, guys, people are gonna look at you like you came right out of some freak show. If you say spinnaker, and what what else do you call it? They have another word for it. Just the spinnakers what I call it. I mean, do you the different sales that that that run for the that are you mean? Oh, boy, this guy was so when you the Genoa the Jim oh triangle sales. Yeah. We got that what you're talking about. Of course, the big the big triangle sale. You mean, the mainsail the main slew? Well, you you sound like you're Bobi. What's the guy staying Bobi? Booby dick, Moby, Dick. Okay. Look, sir. I I didn't want to call up an antagonist you. It sounds like you wanna get into a thing with me. No, no, no. I I don't not at all feel. I forget me. I I make we make fun of guys on the do that. And I don't mean to make fun of you. I understand that. But you. Need understand? I communicate a certain way. So the you're talking about the sales at the front of the boat right yet, the bow about okay, if you will is that that's one thing. I don't know if the general there. What is the the front about the foot? Well, I'm not wrong, the French the bell. And the back is the stern. Okay. I had it reversed. Somebody was saying to me the other day that they had fled. They quote had a clean missing on that on the bow. And I kept looking for it. I said you must be you must be drinking your breakfast. And he said no up there. They said don't forward. And I said go forward he's had up toward the bow. Yeah. Head up to the bow. I said why don't you just say put about and that's where it was missing. I I'm not even sure where we are right now. So you're looking for a thirty foot sloop. Okay. Yeah. Thirty one loop filled. You know, Bob Hitchcock, or Tim swinson or again on my St. no, my son, Jack, I've afraid I don't, sir. All of those guys are involved in both sales over here. Tim is primarily the stink pot. You know, the the cabin cruisers. And then. My my son is involved in the sale of the sailboats sort of on the same page with you in terms of nautical terms. Well, it can come on over here from guys my son. Hi, hi, Tim. It's Phil Hendrie. All right. Hi. So you sell sailboats, right? Uh-huh. Okay. And get closer to the phone. Okay. H Phil just you know, Tim, turn around for me Kim's. Tim's at twelve. Okay. Less. Just wait a minute. Okay. All right. Okay. So Tim, I want to buy a sailboat. Okay. And you have those and tell me for instance, do they come complete with a set of sales. Okay. Hold on that he wants to do it. They have. The canvas bag started. What do you call it fell below? You just you go down into where the people sleep below got to canvas bag is is below you. We gotta do. I didn't say blow. I sent. Oh, he said boil Bela Bela, E, L, Ohio. I'm sorry. It's okay, son. I'm Carrie, no, no, it's fine. So I'm sorry. He's very mortified so we have it. And so what do you wanna come over tomorrow or to let me let me make it for the weekend because it's a work week for me. And I'd be talking to your son, Tim. Yeah, he's the one even charge and that right, Tim. Yeah. And Tim O show you around he'll show you the whole show you where the boats were where the boats we where we parked to where we tied them with ropes to the to the thing. You know, were you tie them off? Yeah. Okay. I the only problem with the way you talk is some people think you're trying to show me up. No. I would never do that. I just it's the Phil Phillip for look around sale. Votes with his father. So he just talks. Oh, you're oh. You know? It's like second nature to you. No, not at all. I mean as I have to think I have to remember to use the right terms. Well, okay here. This is what we do. You wanna go see the boat that's tied up. It's got a rope tied to to big would is that what you want to see. Yeah. I'd like to see the boats that are tied up with rope. Yes. Okay. Well, we'll pick you and then you can go downstairs go to the front. Go to the back. Look at a little round hole, and like Bradshaw said and Joz, and then we have the big stick. That has the big thing that makes the wind blow in it and in a balloon sale right at for when you're running ahead of the wind. What do you call that running before the wind you may want to win blowing blowing blowing us forward? Yeah. Okay. We got the running ahead of the win this. Okay. All right, Tim. I'll see you there then this weekend. Okay. Like, it's mine. The my phone not yours my phone. Okay. Just over there and sit down now. Okay. Hold on for minute fill. Tim put on this. There's your skipper head to to Atta boy say her things doing at the club. Oh, it's fantastic gates lots of membership lunch. Bama party this weekend. We're gonna have our fourth of July party this weekend mortgage rate. You're having a fourth of July putting this weekend. Yes, we are. Because the fourth July's coming up. So why wouldn't we we the fourth of July is in July. This is still it's still April, but Burke site about where side about the summer, the summer months are the months for for any yacht club anywhere in the world. And as you know, general, Sean you fill right across the channel from us and the Channel Islands, and we take our boats, and we have the wind. Oh them over there. Or we start up the motor, and we drive them there. And we always looked to our right and look to our left. You don't say starboard or port. No, no little around with that. And then we drive our boats. And then we throw down the, you know, the mental thing that's the anchor. I know it's the see this is what we're trying to do. Are you are you trying to discard all these nautical terms? What we're trying to do is discourage nautical terms. So that people can chill out, relax. You can come and go. Hey, wow. I love it here. This is a wonderful yacht club. And oh, look look to my left, and no one's gonna break the break at anchor over your head to. It's supposed to be the way. You gotta talk that way. What did what did they say? They are. Isn't it expected that you speak in article fashion? No, not at REI club. Now, we say, hey, go up to the front and get that rope. And then tight around that metal thing, and we do it really loud. And we do it in your face with it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's what the Channel Islands yacht. Club is known for you can go to their real high flute and places like Pacific Carinthian or somebody's joints go down to Balboa yacht club or Newport harbor yacht club Holly cry by what we do here as we say, let's get on our boat and drive it over there to that island park it and throw the rope down with the big metal thing, you know. And you do that on purpose just to just a show people back off. Okay. We're doing it our way you do it your way. Well, it's an interesting. Do you advertise this in your all? Yeah. It's we put it in the pamphlet in our manual our membership manual and basically here up quoting right now membership manual. We do not use fancy terms like line porthole starboard or port. We don't know what they mean. And we don't care anyway when you go to the front of the boat, you're at the front of the boat when you go to the back, you're at the back, and when you go downstairs, that's what you did. You went downstairs you didn't go below. Ha ha ha. And then we put the contraction in there that the young men be ELO that blows. And that's so that's I didn't know anything about that. I didn't either gotta have to tell you a Wes would I feel was calling. I think I got him better prepared. Oh, it's all right. We we we we run into this all the time all the time. So all right. So I'm gonna come over there on Saturday and talk to talk to my some Tim, my son, Tim, so Mr. Henry, Tim, yell K, and he'll be here, and Tim is twelve but he's I think he's doing good for twelve and as you can tell he's bigger than a lot of twelve year olds. But not nothing. Freaky about him these twelve yes. He's twelve nine is. He is. He can I ask you does. He have the authority to make a sale. I know he'll come to me with oh any offers and that, but you walk with him, and he'll walk and he'll tell you. There's what tell us Tim count over here. I'll give you an example. I mean, it's not necessary to describe that describe about here's a boat. Okay. I start again. He's he's a little nervous. Here's a boat. We have. There is the boat and see there's chairs, and here's how you start the motor. Then you drive it thrower d-. Then you back it up. Okay. Yes. He definitely nothing. Fancy nothing. Fancy nothing. No fuss. No muss, right, and Tim. How does he know how much the both ways? How much does that they sail boat? The thirty foot lunar s- s how much does it way with the big with the big thing. Yeah. With the key. What they call the keel is it's gonna kill kill. But to I don't know. We we don't know. All right, but it has keel. Yeah. It has a kill. What's that four? So it doesn't tip over. I mean capsize. Yeah. That's the again, you're using a fancy words. All right. Well, thanks very much. Okay. Can we go sit back down over there? Okay. Foghorn Tim, you gotta fill. Well, that's that sounds like the boy has some some developmental disabilities. No, no, no. There's nothing wrong with my why why would you say that come on? We'll you west. It sounds like the young man is having a hard time communicating. No, no, no. He he talks that way. So that people won't think that more of a brain. He's really very intelligent it to me. Just talked to a normal. Yeah. So are you Tim? Hi, tim. This is Margaret. No. So do you really know about sailboats? No, I don't know a lot about fan votes I salts and things. My phone telling me to talk as if I was to think because he didn't want to do all of the tensions me he would panic. Biggest issue Brun this summer? I'll be hitting all the big colleges back east. You say are you must be like a child prodigy or something that you, and I don't know. No. He's the thing about Tim. Thanks on. Tim's brilliant. But he can't wipe his own his own anus. Yes. These simple things like that. So he's going to be a freshman at Harvard next year, but he'll need help wiping. Thank you, see later. Tim. So I guess he doesn't have to talk to me. No. You don't have to talk to Mr. Henry. Okay. Okay. Do the fuck on. All right mystery. Very good. I'll see you guys there Saturday. All right. Good. And also. What are you kidding me? Man, that guy's guts are way way out there. Now, I didn't get the idea of the young man sounds to me like his son is some kind of a genius that he's trying to keep the lid on until he gets them a college. He they picked. I don't understand. And why wouldn't you want people to know? All right. You know, here's the thing. I don't know that that places for you. They got that freak scene there for the Commodore and his son and they're saying stuff like, yeah. Let let's tie the rope to the boat or whatever she's then Sam very nautical. Mr. Henry, you probably want that. Would you ain't like I'm like you guys? I'm not Ishmail, you know, who's he he's from Moby Dick, you check s Jack emphasis s wait in ain't like, I'm Mr.. Salt of the sea. Or whatever the hell you wanna call me. You know, the two years before the mass guy. I don't know Spencer, Tracy. Yes. Spencer tweets, anyway, it's just that. I think it's kind of nice to be around people that kind of her in the life in the culture, you know? If you're playing baseball guys in should I go out to the big pilot dearth? Yeah. There you go to go up the big pilot dirt and throw the round thing. Yeah. Exactly. And the guy may be the greatest pitcher you ever saw. But he's saying what you say. I'm a pitcher. I'm gonna go out. I'm the man that throws the ball. Instead of pitcher see how it sounds stupid. I don't necessarily think that it makes it much easier for me to understand. All right. Thank you very much. Oh for God's sake. Larva what make it everything? A big you make everything more difficult. You make this world lousy dare you putting a line like that from west side story. And I thought we'll be right back. World-famous Phil Hendrie show downtown downtown gogo. We're gonna go at downtown disco. Gogo lays com, don't be half price for lease and dies. 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Jay, you understand that this is a live program. All right. So just roll it back, but get it right to give him the Q. William only thinking. Welcome back to the Phil Hendrie show. It's chase settles. I'm Jay Santa's outfielder. Shit. I mean, I gotta get going man here. Oh, you're right. An awfully saw JV. We gotta get going. Well, I just I don't think I apologize to everybody. I don't think the mystery gave me much of a chance here because I yeah. But we gotta keep going and it is alive show. But anyway, welcome to our program. Right. Well, I think the S went out soon. We'll dumping later on your. You're sure you're gonna dump it. Yeah. Jay, thanks for joining us in the citizens. Police is a part of you know, just about every aspect of American life. You have some opinions that you published in this week's CAP bulletin on the trip to Korea by our president, President Trump on this negotiation of a nuclear-free Korea do sharing because I feel and I think it's very very obvious to a lot of members of the citizens on please. Because security is what we do that Mr. Trump is walking into a little bit. But trap. You know, why do you say that what we feel that the Koreans? Are you? You know, I don't they just don't guy doesn't strike me as someone who's serious about the the denuclearization. And Putin has all the cards. The Putin to tell the guy Kim to offer NewCo nuclear deal. I can't say that word nuclear nuclear deal. So that Trump would be more popular in America and people vote for him and keep him president general. Pretty sophisticated. I think don't you know? I mean, if you fit he meddled in L, if he if he middled in the election of twenty sixteen he's probably gonna mill now win this one. So you're saying that Putin is going to tell him to go easy on Trump. So that they get a nuclear deal signed Trump becomes more popular at home and gets reelected. President back is my UC. It's not really concerned that is what I think could happen. Now, you asked me if I've been worried about that. No, I'm not because you know, I happen to support President Trump. I'm just saying that I don't like the idea that President Trump because president because Bryson's, you know, Slavic what it means some sledding. I I just being some person some non-american is influencing everything and we're getting played with. And we're getting our heads twisted around by some slap. Now, this is the second twenty cents slave is. He I don't mean that in a racially superior way. I just being that we're Americans, and we choose don't Trump free and clear famous. We choose them freeing clear one would would like to think that and you know, whether or not the the elections of two thousand sixteen were influenced by the Russians or not. You know, the man's been elected president United States. That's right. He's the United States. Right. They're just they wanna know if the campaign colluded with Russia. I we know. All right. I want to get into that why we're talking about twenty teen coming up right now. And the fact that President Trump's going to go to Korea to make it a new nuclear-free peninsula. I think he's a great thing. And they're going to try to rob him of the glory by Cowan candy at go easy on him. Because I want him to be present. But that's really something. Nobody's supposed to know. They want to keep that secret volume want to keep it secret. But it's not exactly being kept secret right now, there's all kinds of people commenting on it over on Twitter Facebook and so on and what they're coming on. If you could just tell the audiences is that there's this idea that Putin is, you know, telling him, he's basically pulling the strings over there that Korean dailies telling him to go ahead, and do whatever Trump wants, or at least make it look a lot better for Trump. So that he is insured of really. Own at twenty sixty in twenty twenty twenty right dic- twenty sixteen. We bought us at twenty eighteen. Well, I mean, really it's about twenty eighteen about to about the congressional. It's about a congressional elections. So yeah, we're Trump's gonna wanna get reelected. They really want the congressional elections. Go good. And by making President Trump look good in Korea. More Republicans are gonna get let now I have to again, tell you I'm in favor of that. I won't have more publicans elected. But I don't like the idea of a guess what? In twenty eighteen the congress United States remained read because Russian was smarter than a bit American in some Russian call the shots. You trying to say I know what he's saying. Wait a minute. It sells to be like you are it sounds like you would mind someone calling the shots. He just don't like the idea of other Russian. Yeah. That's it sounds like you talk about a slave when I. Talked about what a slave the Slavic people now. Well, it's just I know you please don't go down the racial road. Then I'm always don't people push back go down racial highway. All right. Let's keep this on equal rights boulevard. 'cause the winter man we get on Richard racial highway. We're on our way toward you know, inward in word avenue. And let's with the metaphor about the streets. Just trying to I understand what you're saying. Jay, we don't want is. You don't want the appearance that you're being racial. But the the fact of the matter is you saying it looks bad. When Americans are manipulated by a slab. It looks bad. You said the word twice. All right. I won't say the word. I'm sorry. I'm just seeing what would be preferable layers what's preferable country now who who would be. But rather manipulators? Well, I mean, you'd rather see the England England do you'd rather see maybe I would even think France, you know. Well, why would they want to manipulate? See the whole idea this training. I if I could finish I'm just saying to see some guy that does that whole dim advantage. Then hey, then if. We're talking to Jay Santos. I'm sorry. I I'm I'm trying to get my thoughts collected. We're talking to Jay Sam to the citizens. Auxerre police who is not necessarily opposed to a US elections being battled with. He just doesn't like the idea of a Slavic guy doing it, which sounds entirely racial. It really is. I think what we want to say is they represent that old way of life, and we want someone I represents a new way of life. What if Canadians were manipulating or mentally in our elections that would be better? But I gotta tell you gotta stings Canadians. I just up there. Not doing anything. You know? What santos? I've heard you before. I'm just saying they're in their what their relatives a binder up there. All right. I'm sorry Santos up. Listen to you before trying to couch in front of self and your whole attitude, you're Bob green. And at the end of the day van you'd have like people because of the color of their skin Addy start true. That's not you. You don't like people because the skin color. They're saying the cuddle their skin or whether from if you're talking about slaves manipulating our elections being much worse than English people or Canadians. What does that amount to are? You trying to kill me that you are you telling me that some slab some guy that was. Jason and to the citizens auxiliary police, what are you guys doing about this? What are we supposed to do about it? I can do that. I've alerting people that when President Trump goes over to Korea, and this guy Putin who's got the. Look the guy's face. It looks it looks what it's racially it looks racially inferior. No, I say that. Well, look at the guy's face beans what he has a sneaky. It's a sneaky face. You've gotta sneaky gifts run, whatever you say man, just say, you publish that as a public assistance onto it, please. We're racist. Don't like black people Mexicans. We don't like slams got the Pinson face. What are you talking about? That's what you just said. You said that I'd say didn't like I said, I said Putin is a slap in face, and you don't wanna slave pinched in face telling us what to do with our cheeses. I'm just I'm just trying to cover all the bases. You know, what I'm gonna get off the air. And I'm gonna have a million messages from people saying you sound like these whole the world. Can we can we can we get rid of can we get rid of the Colt to Jay? Thank you you watch. Mr. Henry, Putin's pulling the strings. All right. But you don't care. You don't mind somebody pulling the strings, you just don't like a slave doing it. You're I wish I would have started this out different. It's like, yeah. You better believe it, man. Santos. Why do you keep having that guy on? That's the first time. He's ever been that blatant about it. That's for sure. World-famous Phil Hendrie show and Phil every show dot com. We're back in business hereafter are a week with art bell again. Thanks for all of your good messages, and and your compliments on the ark Bill week. We're back though, forget, of course, we have our Friday night chances usual, we have if you've missed it. We had a pretty good sanity cinema was interesting, and then black fist and still up on the on the websites. Check it out. We'll see you guys tomorrow world-famous fill every showing second produced by me. Phil, heavy foresee upper incorporated, all rights reserved on podcast one.

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EPISODE #058: What are you so afraid of? Tom & Manda obsess over their favorite phobia-inducing films!

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EPISODE #058: What are you so afraid of? Tom & Manda obsess over their favorite phobia-inducing films!

"The following may contain trigger words for people with certain types of phobias listener. Discretion is advised on not afraid Searching for the unusual the obscure the forgotten treasures hidden deep within streaming media. This is the deep dive hugged danced in the Sun. All DOWN TO CONTINUE TO DIVE O. Divers DON'T BE AFRAID. It's just us your friends here at the deep dive podcast a never ending quest to find the best and sometimes worse content hiding in your streaming media libraries because you probably watched everything else. But I'm Tom. Finney writer for weighing shot movie magazine available on Amazon Dot Com and with me and without me as always is my Cova Co host. The amazing man delorean That's getting better every week. I mean how are you holding up? Sh yeah well. I'm I'm holding. I'm holding and it just it feels on like The years gone by super-quick and also super slow at the same time. Yeah Yeah I get that. It's a weird that I'm trying to find but I'm healthy and I'm what are they saying? Happy and healthy at home. Yeah so a lot to be grateful for but yeah man. I'm really bummed out that it's Memorial Day weekend that were recording this and There isn't going to be a barbecue at my parents house or is it going to be any swimming. It's a whole new type of year for us. It's IT'S GONNA be one for the history books for sure absolutely and they're they're saying you know there's the I think it's triple A. That tries to estimate how many people are going to be traveling during holiday weekends and things like that. They're not even to venture a guess this time. They said they said No. We're out. We're not even going to do it. So that's how weird it is. People are just not gonNA. They're not gonNA go anywhere know. And you know as far as Memorial Day goes this is certainly WANNA remember because it. Just we're we're in this weird limbo world and you know we're we're trying to come out of it but then again maybe not or is it going to come back and yeah who knows yeah. You just really don't know you follow one social media one you know media post and it's different from the other one and I don't know but you know something I did. Do I went on Amazon. I bought myself a portable grill and portable. It's really cute and by portable. I mean it's like a one. Two three time used it comes in this giant silverware tray with brick thirty in With like some later something in a tiny little grill. Mesh thing you light it up. Yeah and then within ten minutes you're cooking and I put it on my balcony and I don't know if my landlords okay with that but we did it and we made some halfway decent burgers. Nice yeah you do what you can you know. Yeah no I like that. That's pretty cool you though because you're like in a you're in a section of the world that is normally very very busy. Yes you know like gun shots and and the ambulance rides and all that very quiet where you're at it. Well you would think. But here's the fun part yesterday I'm working I'm actually writing some things for for the podcast and I hear this explosion and what is going on and so I go outside and apparently and I found one of my neighbors. I think you said this. Apparently somebody who's driving past our house through like an m. eighty or something of that nature Out of their window and it started a brushfire right next to our house and so we had to call the fire department and they put it out before it spread. It was actually by the timing is already spread and how yes so there. Smoke everywhere you know. All the neighbors are out like looking staring. What's going on and all that? So that's kind of excitement. I don't need people are really board where you live. Yeah they they must be. They must be because usually. It's not until July that we play our favorite game gunshots or fireworks my name so yeah. That was a little bit a little bit of excitement that I could totally do without. But Hey yeah that's what happens for you rate your home families. Happy Healthy and safe. Yeah you know it's funny. It's like We all have our bad days where we're kind of laid over it and feeling the weight of everything Thankfully we don't have them all at the same time. One of us is having a bad day and the other one. The other one's trying to you know. Pick them up so right you know. At least there's that yeah so we're you know we're hanging in there. Luckily you know we're we're doing okay. it's like. I said it's weird. But hopefully at some point we'll get back to some sense of normalcy exactly and I guess the last thing is the most important question is how pumpkin. Oh the cat's great. The cat is great. The cat got we. We were able to get him in for some of his shots. I'd and he got his lion cut for the summer so he he looks like he's wearing socks on his feet and his tales. All Fluffy at the end. Looks like a q tip But I think he's happier with it because for some reason either he's more comfortable or he just scared. We're going to have him. Do it do it again. That he's been like very clingy on our laps all the time and he doesn't WanNa leave us alone so he's either happy or scared to death that we're going to send him back To have the one eightieth. My cats cats are mad. They just they. They do their own thing. I think they're sleeping more which maybe is not true because of course. I'm not home during the day normally but I think that they are Annoyed that we're so In their environment as they see it yes and the normal things that usually happen like you know they come running up to us and they're all playful in lovable and purring hasn't happened in like three months. My Cat Dexter just looks at me and says you know I'm good. You know it's funny. You mentioned that because last night I was watching a video with Jackson Galaxy. Know who that is. He's the cat down. Yeah and he was doing a video about how your cats behave during quarantine and it's interesting. Because he was saying yeah it it does happen where your cats can get sick of you and you have to do is especially if you work at home and you know you're on a whole different schedule. Is You have to get the cat acclamated to your new schedule. So you have to kind of if you're gonNA work at home Play with the cat. Some good intents playtime before you have to start work And then when you're on a break you WANNA pay attention to the cat. Then you WanNa you know and so you want to get the cat. Used to what your schedule is now. Because they've been used to a certain way of things happening during the day which makes sense you know and cats are used to having a certain they used to having a place to go to be by themselves and you know some quiet time. And if they don't get that they get antsy they get nervous just like anybody so I didn't realize that their personal space was the entire house. Yes and they don't like it when people are walking around their personal space all the time. They don't apparently they don't like that very. Yeah so I duNNo. It's kind of crazy but yeah it is good. Yeah and we're happy and we're doing another episode. Which is Great? And it's really fun because despite not being able to be in the studio as been able to connect US and We're still able to podcast really fun. Because I think it's important to stay creative as much as you can and times like this And if you can't to sort of at least reach out to other people and I know speaking for myself. It's mentally healthy to do this. Because you know it's it's an outlet. It's a creative outlet. It gives me something to work on besides actual work So it's it's a good diversion for me And you know and it's and it gives me an excuse to tell everybody else in the house to buzzsaw for awhile. So yeah that's always fun. Yeah but you know for some people it It's not it's not going great. You know people have a tough time. I think people who live alone or having a tough time more than others I know that sort of the front line workers you know are struggling And so you know. It's it's difficult time for everybody but more so for some people and that's a shame and those people should really be taken care of when this is all over so now everyth- everybody and this kind of leads us into our topic for today We all have fears that we deal with in our daily lives summer. Rational Irrational Science has given name to those fears. And that's called phobias right. Some are fairly calm. And you've got fear of which is Akra Phobia You've got Arafat era phobia which is fear flying. You know Here's one that I didn't know about and this is a this is actually one. That's kind of a possible to we're going through is NOSSA phobia which is irrational fear of developing a disease. Even though it doesn't seem rational anymore but And a new one. There's a relatively new one. I didn't know that there were new fears. How do you how do you make new fears? I guess But here's one that's called NOMOPHOBIA. Have you heard of that one? Is that the one where you're getting lost. that's close. It's the fear of being without your mobile phone. Oh Yes yes. Yes and so. If you're at your phone you freak out that is crazy and you know why this new focus because the world keeps happening and we keep developing new things that we get dependent on like our cellphones. Exactly I mean honestly if I were somewhere and I did that my phone I would probably be quite nervous too because in my mind I would think we'll make contact anybody. I don't have money. I don't have like telephone boxes anymore. Right and here's a funny thing though you know for with that particular fear Nomophobia. It's an irrational fear of being without your phone. Most people are scared after they lose it not before they lose their phone. So it's like I you know they're so scared of losing their phone they don't WanNa go out of the House because Oh my God lose my phone and you know. So that's where it gets like that paralyzing thing when it becomes really debilitating and that's that's you know that's awful if somebody has to deal with that sort of thing but but we're gonNA talk about Some fears today with our with our picks so for me. I'M GONNA go with Claustrophobia. Buck relevant relevant. Yes Oh yes absolutely. So claustrophobia is the fear of enclosed spaces according to Web. Md A website. You should never go to if you have any symptoms for anything Claustrophobia is. What's called a specific phobia? That's a fear of certain objects people or activities. There are many places that can trigger it like elevators tunnels airplanes or the average New York City apartment so capturing that feeling that claustrophobic feeling in film is not an easy task. It takes very skilled filmmaker to bring audience into an enclosed space. While you're watching big movie theater or at home so that's where I'm going to go with both of my picks today My first pick Deals with You know Claustrophobia. In a certain certain context so the past five or so years seeing the rise of the escape room Odds are one nestled between your local frozen yogurt shop and vape store Because it's like one of those things it's like trendy for a while and then it disappears hot. They were hot. They're kind of going down because now nobody wants to disclose in close base with strangers or family members I'm working talk. Kid Bachelorette Party yes. Well that's the only exception really So in very teeny tiny nutshell and escape room is a themed enclosure where a group of people try to work together and find clues that are around them in order to help them escape. Pretty simple in one form of quarantine or another. Our entire lives have become an escape room. But that's a whole other thing in the escape room. The stakes are purely fictional. Certain amount of time to find your way out before something supposedly bad happens but it's all in good fun. What if there was an escape room? Where your odds of leaving a live were next to none? I'm not talking about the recent movie called Escape Room because I haven't Sinop bypass. Aw nope nope. But that's A. That's a good example. Though is the nineteen ninety-seven Canadian production. Cube six rooms high twenty six rooms across seventeen thousand seventy six. Anybody remember how they got WIFI. Would they throw innocent people in here meeting? Punish so this gotta be a way out of trouble to build this thing and we could just walk out a good long look around and I got finished looking at us. We have about three days without food and water before too weak to move one. Wake up man. Something almost cut my head off the grid wall. You're not getting out of we. We need to get around the track. Their identified by prime numbers. Figure it out more talking Thorpe Gessen. You gotta save yourself from yourselves okay. I have not seen it but I saw previews researching this yes. So essentially the premises this five strangers wake up in a cubicle shaped room with no knowledge of how they got there. They quickly realized that the cube is a death trap. If you manage to find your way at a one qb find yourself in another cube. Each one with its own unique way to kill you. Each I know right. Each successive cube room has its deathtraps triggered in different ways There are some sound pressure things like that now. As these traps begin claiming victims survivors began turning on each other and becoming almost a worse threat to the cube itself. Now one of the five people trapped is not who they appear to be and may have more knowledge of the cubes workings. Then they let on so you know. You're you're kind of like wondering who you know who knows what who's kind of the mole. Who's in there? Who's you know? Who's WHO. What are the motivations of people are and how they have to try to work together? While not being at each other's throats to solve you know solve each cube and get to the next one and even if they do what they find at the end you know. Is there a reward or is it just futile? They're just GONNA the oldest Mark Die Anyway So yes you wonder your. And what's Nice about? This is one of those for anybody can die at any time. You know you. You See Arnold Schwarzenegger movie is The star of the movie But here you have no idea so you keep wondering who dies who survives wire there And what's really good about? It also is that there's no easy answers because we don't get any more information than the characters do and that's important because in a lot of movies you know more than the characters do and that makes you just want to say okay dummy know. Here's what's really going on. If you knew this you'd be fine. I kind of don't like movies where the audience is smarter than the characters on the screen. Yeah Yeah I lose interest pretty quickly. Yeah because it's like I you know I don't want to be spoon fed this just like the characters are not being spoon fed the so I always appreciate that in a movie where I have just as much information as the characters do but not more than that So all right that a lot So Cube for me. It's a brilliant premise. For a very very low budget production. There's one set there's five actors really And the most Karen thought are actually given to the setting of the cube six character It was actually designed by a mathematician With each side of the cubing exactly four hundred thirty four feet long and and you know since they're moving from cube to cube. They had to find a way to make each cube. That was exactly the same seem different because you so the audience wouldn't get confused so each time round moved to a different cube. The room was a different color. Same layout but a different color and it was. That's very clever because only one QB set was built so they use different color panels in the walls to show the audience. They were in a brand new room So I thought that was a great. You know a a a great clever use of space Happening and because of the movie does manage to be pretty CLAUSTROPHOBIC for its entire ninety minutes and the acting is pretty solid and oddly for a Canadian film. It's not funny. Oh the Canadians are so funny. They really are there people. Yes so it was actually a pretty decent hitting theaters and on home video which was a pretty big achievement for a film that only cost three hundred fifty thousand dollars to make so very low budget but very very clever so highly recommended. You haven't seen cube check it out the scores. It gets a seven point two out of ten on the Internet movie database and percent. Yeah sixty three on rotten tomatoes all right. Not Bad not bad. And of course as with any mildly successful there were sequels. Why not so in two thousand? And two to hyper cube was released. It added some more tech cubes that kind of exist in different dimensions and timeframes. And all that but it was kind of more of the same really wasn't as successful and then two years after that cubes zero was released and that kind of takes us outside the cube for the first time adds a little bit more World Building. It had better special effects pretty decent reviews so if I were to go watch the cube first and then for the sequels I've just go with cube zero and if you're still interested in the premise you can go to Cuba to. There's not really linear right. You can watch them out of order and that's okay so yeah. I mean if that's something that you're interested all of the cube movies are available for free on to be Voodoo and. I don't think we've mentioned this before the Internet movie database is streaming service I. Yeah I D T. V. So if you go to the Internet movie database. They actually have something called. Imdb TV which you can use to watch some things for free interesting. Yes I know right and I think one of the their spokesperson at least for a little while has been Kevin Smith so he needs to step up his game. Get people aware of what's going on if you don't mind I'm GONNA go ahead because with my second pick because it kind of ties in a little bit that there are many different triggers for Claustrophobia. Sometimes it's not the space around you. That feels like it's closing in. It could be the like the consequences of your own actions The tension the stress. The guilt over something. You've done that can make you feel like the walls are caving in around you. Which we've all felt that way at one time or another. I think to set up the pick so let me go back a little bit in some history in nineteen twenty four university students Nathan Leopold and Richard Loeb convinced of their intellectual superiority over others decided to commit. The perfect crime is true They kidnapped and murdered a teenage boy after planning every little detail for seven months now the crime that they committed and they did do it was decidedly less than perfect after an intense police investigation. The pressure got to Richer Loeb. He confessed and they were both convicted and sentenced to life imprisonment. So this crime was the inspiration for my second. Pick and one of Alfred Hitchcock's most unusual films. Nineteen forty eight's rope tonight. A friend hot okay. You can say yes as well as in Texas the last time she ever saw him alive. And that's the last time you'll ever see him alive. What happened to David? Kelley changed my life completely. The lives of seven others. Rope is a fascinating experiment in filmmaking. Much like my first pick cube. The film primarily takes place on one set a very posh Manhattan penthouse apartment now just like Leopold and Loeb. The two main characters are college. Students and intellectual snobs played by Jon Dahl and Farley. Granger. They have just strangled to death. One of their classmates with a piece of rope. The pair hide the body inside a wooden chest in the apartments. Living Room at a further proved their superiority. They have a dinner party that evening. In the apartment with family and friends including the murdered classmates fiance and Pears Mentor and Economic Idol. Played by Tom. Hanks of the Nineteen Thirties and forties. Jimmy Stewart. Thus begins this cat and mouse game. Will anyone put the pieces together? Who will discover the body in the wooden chest? Will Jimmy Stewart. Figure out what his proteges are up to and would he support them or turn them in to the police. So coming from the master of suspense. Alfred hitchcock rope is pure excellence in filmmaking. But as I said it was an experiment. The film is presented practically in real time and edited to look like it was filmed in one continuous shot even though they could only shoot scenes in ten minute increments because of the limitation a film. Every ten minutes. They'd have to change the film in the camera. So the whole thing had to be carefully edited to keep the illusion of it being all one take. They couldn't do it. Of course. At the time you know the forties no digital also it had to be done on film and those film canisters only had ten minutes fill. Wow they had to cut it in such a way as they would like. Move the camera to a static location and then cut to the next scene while the camera was still in place after they had changed the film and then continue the scene. So it's really interesting. The way that hitchcock sort of designed this he designed the set to be able to move silently while the camera was being moved to they can move stuff out of the way to get the shots that they wanted do and in this way it almost makes the film feel like a stage production. It's pretty amazing to watch because as you're doing this. The sort of the suspense keeps building. Are they going to get caught? Are they going to get caught? Who's going to give it up? Is Somebody GonNa make a mistake? Who you know will. Will someone look in the chest to see what's going on And it's really cool because the even the title rope has a couple of meanings first of all it refers to what they used as the murder weapon but it also refers to Kinda the saying that you give somebody enough rope. They're going to hang themselves with Carter. And so it. It's just it's so because it's all the acting and the dialogue. That's and that's it because there's no there's nothing else to look at So yeah it's it's a great great film It's one of my favorites. It's not considered one of Hitchcock's best. I don't know why but you know after you've watched psycho and Vertigo. When north by northwest the other great ones checkout rope a recommend it enough As far as the scores go it gets an eight out of ten on Internet movie database in a ninety four percent on rotten tomatoes so nice big scores for rope You can watch it on most streaming services including itunes Amazon prime and Voodoo for a three dollars and ninety nine cent rental So yeah if you're looking for something that's really different But really just riveting you know no special effects no explosions. No one's in my backyard Yeah just for for the straight dialogue and the acting in the suspense. You not do much better than rope. So gets my highest recommendation. Nice very good I am interested in that one is so good you got to check it out. Oh well do so. You know what's interesting? How some fears or phobias are obvious for people? But not others yeah. I don't seem to be affected by CLAUSTROPHOBIA. Too Much I don't mind elevators. I don't mind kind of You know being in the woods being surrounded by lots of trees and not really knowing where I'm at or you know you go in caves caves around here because I think it'd be cool to be underground but the opposite of that for me is what terrifies me. And of course I'm talking about last of phobia which is the fear of so Lhasa Phobia the fear of It's the giant intense and persistent fear of deep bodies of water or the could be interpreted as the vast emptiness of the C- You know Things of being very far distant from the from the from the beach with the beach and far you go from the beach line and that kind trigger like Oh my God. I'm far away but anyway the reason why I picked this because I happen to be reading a book A little while ago because one of my creative outlets is reading. And I've gotten through. I think eleven books so far. You know it's not bad but I picked up Nathaniel Phil Bricks in the heart of the sea Because I love him as an author. He's a local Arthur. Actually he's a from Puckett. I believe and he'd a of yeah a lot of historical nonfiction which is right up. My Alley He he wrote one about the mayflower actually And I was drawn in by that but but anyways I picked up the book and I started reading it and I just in research on it so his book is an adaptation of Herman Melville Book Moby. Dick which is also based on a true story. The ship ethics that actually was Attacked and sunk by giant sperm. Well so let back during that in the very late I should say early. Eighteen hundreds so about eighteen. Fifteen to twenty something like that The whale ship ethics which by the way happened to be an American whaler ship from. Tuck IT Massachusetts. Hence why it's called Essex Was set out and it was in the Pacific Ocean where it was attacked and eventually sunk by a giant. Burn now of course. Herman Melville took the story and incision it enough. We're now we we know of only moby Dick Right Giant White Whale Whether or not it was actually why I'm not quite sure about that. But anyways the ship went down and the there were survivors now where it gets to be really tricky and also very uncomfortable. I guess Is that the survivors. Were then you know they were up against dehydration which is interesting when you're in a bed of water but of course also water starvation of course and exposure The survivors eventually restored it. resorted to cannibalism. Oh so it's one of those things where that is the actually. I think people would say that. That's the end of the rope. No no Pun intended. But you know for humans you know. Do you go as far as say the Donner Party did or or or this here. And there's actually plenty of stories throughout human history where humans have engaged in the consumption of other humans to survive You know there was a. I think there was a plane crash. Maybe in the seventy or something with a soccer team on board somewhere in Brazil yeah And they reports of cannibalism there too but anyway this was a huge a huge blow to Not only are quote industry up in New England during that time but it gave way to the real fear that there are giant animals Like proven giant animals in this this vast emptiness of the see that could kill us now previous to this there weren't exactly too many shark Like attack because I think the first shark attack happened and I WANNA say journey but it wasn't until like maybe late or mid to late eighteen hundreds and then of course bring around jaws and then everyone's afraid of sharks but Yeah so the ship goes down and it inspires. Herman Melville about thirty minutes right Moby Dick Moby. Dick is probably one of the most famous Written work In fact I think I read somewhere that In terms of like let's say one through five it's probably number five of the most read Pieces of of literature into world. So it probably goes like the Bible and other religious books and then Harry Potter and then the school students though. Oh I actually I never read Moby Dick Fully. I gave up about probably four chapters then and I just ended up using cheat online when I was in high school. It's just so much now. You gotTA wonder well. How did this actually come about it? Because he met He met one of survivors And he basically took what he said and it of course but made it so airy that people started developing these fears of water pence. Yes so a lot of people when they were in back then when they were actually seeing medical professionals but of course not not in public. Because then you'd be scrutinized but whatever nowadays scientists say Moby Dick Inside this year the philosophy phobia and people such as they had never seen before because now now humans are becoming more mobile more more apt to to technology in terms of what was available. Then so you know the fact that would internship and the fast wheeler or or whatever it was And here comes the Welsh ethics which gets sunk in by giant whale By the way firm. Whales are actually regularly hunted by orca whale. So they're not necessarily that huge But that's just for efforts anyways so I chose in the hardest. It's a movie that came out recently. I think two dozen fifteen maybe And it's based on an annual Phil Book Book of this still bricks book of the same title. Which is based on? Melville which based on the has the actual struggle event monsters. Real seen things no one else to see span so in brief. He's in the heart of the sea ready. Pg Thirteen to seven eleven. You know degrees from originally what happened but basically you have people like Chris Hemsworth isn't it to actually. Yeah he plays the captain. Tom Holland. It Oh Killington Murphy if you like him. Wow yeah so there's some big name people in it didn't do too well And the reason why I won't go so much into you the movie itself because it doesn't it doesn't really different few too much from Philbrick book I mean. There's obviously something but not too much so if you do a little bit of history our you've listened to what I was saying about the actual leadership. You kind of. Get the premise right. So so it. It didn't do too well. In terms of reading rotten tomatoes gave it a forty three. I can be a respectable six point. Nine it's not too bad It's not about letting where for free that I know but you can rent it across basically every platform we've ever talked about for about three bucks. It's definitely worth I think watching because it's a different type of adventure movie and it. Has You know some of our well known actors in it but it also kind of. I don't know for me. It really got me thinking about how I would feel if I were this. Nineteenth Century sailor stuck in this ship now as I said before I probably wouldn't be bothered by having really small confined spaces but being on the open ocean with no land in sight. That ominous feeling of not knowing anything. That's where I think. Humans kind of we lose all touch of reality. We just we don't WanNa know about it. We get afraid But yeah it is. It terrified me so when he was describing in the book I he of course used some colorful language but it really struck me as being. Wow this is something that I've actually pretty terrified about. I bet a lot of other people are Hugh my research read. It has its own. Select the phobia separated and I gotta tell you they they. They post them pretty terrifying. Things open water pitchers or like It's crazy because I think at its heart phobia. It really have to do is scale how small we are compared to basically everything in the world. Existential Affair Yeah exactly so I could go to the beach and I could be swimming around the ocean for hours. It'd be totally happy but if I really stop to think about I think wow. I'm this far away from there. I'm in the middle of the ocean that you have no idea what's underneath you It's nuts I mean here's the thing. The oceans pretty much clear right but if the lack of sunlight that makes it dark so the for you go of course the lack of Sun less than you. You can't see anything. So can you imagine though if we were swimming in the ocean completely clear? And you could see everything. I don't know if people would ever get back in because they would. They would see everything that was in there so there wouldn't really be lots of phobia. There would just be like a phobia of the ocean. Don't WanNa go near it but anyways so That was my pick. I kinda went off the deep end on that. I got trapped whole. Oh Yeah I got into a huge rabbit hole as it were with that one but I will tell you If you have any interest whatsoever on reading up on the actual whale ship it will lead you into a bunch of other things especially Around the sort of New England Flash Massachusetts Fishery history. It's actually really really interesting to read about like there's a good book called God And it's really based on on our fishing industry and how we cornered the market and how we're basically to blame for the lack of caught in the oceans these days Yeah it's crazy but anyways that's my take you should check it out Chris Hemsworth. He's a really decent actor in it Tom Holland was good in a locally and Murphy so I'm always GonNa Watch them the he's in the yeah good. Yeah Yeah. That's actually pretty cool. You know what's Funny That the phobia that you mentioned Reminds me of another one I don't know if you've heard of called appear uperior phobia a which is the fear of infinity or eternity No way it's about you know is basically you know you can't you can't get your mind around the concept of infinity or nothingness or eternity and it's one of those things where you know you can't sleep and you're you know tossing and turning your brain sort of feeds on itself where you kind of go down that rabbit hole where you wonder okay. What is nothing what is it? How big is the universe? What's before what's after and all that stuff and you spiral down that way. But that's kind of similar to that what you're talking about with the open like it's just it's too much it's too open. You feel too small so it kind of reminded me of that fear which I thought was kind of interesting because it's more. It's not a specific phobia about like drowning. That's a different thing. But it's that sort of Brian. Essential Phobia of sort of being an alone in an open space. And there's sort of that that that sort of wide open emptiness which is yeah. So That's interesting that you know that it's that there's like basically two different phobias. A kind of are connected to each other but one is sort of For a specific area the others for like everything like infinity. Right exactly I think. Most phobias probably have connections to others. But I bet people who are smarter than US we'll determine which via is the predominant one due to some other factors. Well I mean phobias are pretty much anyway. Genetically hardwired I think and a lot of ways Because most of them can be traced back to when we were. Just foraging. Yeah you know. They all have some kind of specific trigger if people are afraid of spiders. Because you know there's spiders business and can can hurt you and you know so all these fears whether they're irrational or not are really rooted in some evolutionary byproduct of our past. So yeah it's I mean it's a fascinating subject and when I think we should probably take a closer look at it in the future because it is kind of you know. It is kind of a wild thing to think about that. The these things. We don't have any control over when we feel ourselves as being these superior creatures with superior intellect and all that and then and then there's Florida so Florida's not like the rest of us. Yeah yeah basically so yeah I like that. This is a good topic lights probably. It's it is fun and we are joking about it but I mean of course it is relevant now because some folks are are dealing with some some definite triggers for you know depending what's going on in their area of the world which for everybody. I think most people are kind of locked down there in their house at least for my experience. So you know I can definitely see people. Maybe developing. And that's the thing about phobias to they don't not all of them are just intrinsically bread or in your genes. Some of them are actually developed. Now of course they they sponsor mother things. I think but the greet the interesting thing about today's Times as I'm reading a lot of articles where You know they colleges and psychiatric are really kind of concerned about folks developing fear of going outside. I think it's called Gora Phobia. Yeah who you had never had that before too extroverted and just don't WanNa go outside And there's that that sort of like barrier that is placed upon you But that you feed into by becoming more and more freedom and or whatever the case may be I mean there's also some folks who are who are were feeling cost you phobic in their homes who had never experienced it before but despite their homes not changing size and it being normal forever being forced within these four walls can kind of trigger or develop these sort of phobia so it. I guess what I'm saying is that it's normal And if you happen to be feeling some of these feelings it's it's not a bad time to reach out to somebody Taking care of yourself physically is one thing but taking care of yourself. Mentally is always a good idea at some. So you know there's plenty of resources out there is always saying And Co listen to our podcast. Who help with that or make it worse one or the either one or the other. Yeah reminds me if you've heard of the They're calling spot a phobia. No well that's the fear of having to pay to listen to Joe Rogan's podcast on spot. Okay I good with the short clips on Youtube because I get really frustrated with that guy very easily. I'm sorry don't don't hate us. Whoever is his management company? Sorry Yeah I'd rather not think. Good old apple podcasts. Three where what you guys can raise us and the more rating as we get the easier for us to reach lots of people absolutely you know. Spread the word not the virus. That's what we say. Yeah we've been saying all along. Yes our podcast is just as contagious. And better for you. So yeah so there's that so to recap our picks I picked and the hitchcock film rope. And managers pick was in. The heart of the sea is correct. That is correct in the heart of the sea. I do have a few honorable. Mentions me to the German world. War Two submarine drama. Dust boat are. Yeah which is very claustrophobic Pity Submarine Right. Yeah exactly panic room with jody foster and Kristen Stewart where they are hiding from home invaders in a panic room and resorts diabetic. She needs her insulin and all that yeah and finally the descent which is about six women exploring a cave and they find something very nasty living there too so yeah. Those are my honorable. Mentions the thinking thinking about speed? Oh yeah well yeah remember it. They're there they have to keep speeding in the bus. But it's the same you know you're in a small space that you can't leave right exactly and then I was thinking about that movie. I think it's called the hundred and thirty seven hours. Where yeah he gets caught in between two rocks and you know ends up cutting off the arm but I would boil it for you But those in my article mentions I. I think I like a good scare movie but sometimes I like a lot of appropriate thought provoking movie. Like like Something like that because it makes me think. Oh Wow. Is that something that actually scares me too. Yeah yeah that's A. I don't even want to take my mind into that. Yeah Yeah Yeah because I know I'd be dead so that's it. You know why not here. I'm getting me buzzing. Be a German submarine boat that I've done so it's a long story but anyway we'll go into that right now but you're so yeah. I mean now. Okay so I think that kind of that's GonNa do it for this episode. I know it was not exactly the most uplifting of topics I get it. But that's okay that's okay. You know we have to talk about these things and get them out in the open So I I consider it a public service honestly and not just because remember. Yeah yeah definitely free public service. Yes free public service. So now I think the next episode of the deep dive micro cast will go in a little bit of a different direction. I think it is going to be a laugh riot. If for no other reason than we are going to take a look at the history of the laugh track better about that. Oh thank you buddy. Wow you guys are great. Yeah all right wonderful. Yeah so yeah so. That'll be interesting. It's actually more involved than you might think. So how the laugh track team to be so. Yeah so that should be interesting. So we'll be back with our regularly. Funny joke he podcasts. Excuse me when we feel like it. Who knows when that's going to be Yeah we'll figure it out but they do. You can always find us on instagram. 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Sasheer Agrees Men Should Put Bars in Their D*cks!

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Sasheer Agrees Men Should Put Bars in Their D*cks!

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I want and then when we're on the floor sometimes my titties jiggle and not my but but then also sometimes. My boss is moving. I just don't feel it. Oh interesting yes I got a phantom. But it's the phantom minutes. That's the real meaning of that your best Adminis- rank. I woke up actually like last night right before bed I was like oh I'm so and then this morning I woke up and I was like. Whoa it's hard to lift the lid on my toilet because you got bend over a little bit. Yeah then. I foam rolled before this and I feel so much better though. Good Yeah I stretched and I also found this beginning a lot of workout that he is via instagram and there are some sort stretch where they is low back. Pain have been having lower back pain and where you put a exercise band around something. They're fixture in the put around your waist lay down and it's like kind of pulling your waist from your torso laying back on the floor. Uh-huh the band around my hips. And then it's new to a pillar pillory Yes I you need to move to an opulent location. Further healers inside okay. God the bed frame or I don't know somethings but I use my pillow. Okay so especially at my hits for a little bit. Maybe I'll do that. Maybe I'll take it to the poll outside. That's pretty sturdy. Yeah because then also my hip flexor I think they were so open and then I haven't really liked stretch. Stretch them in a while. So I think they're like Oh. We gotta tighten backed up so I think they're just a little tight from that. Yeah it older also sex in regards that my body needs to be stretched out like I wake up and think of this tight everywhere where. I don't know what I was doing before. I guess it was running around being fine and then my body is like okay. Yeah I mean I used to get absolutely obliterated and then wake up the next day like I can work. This is good now. It takes a minute. I know I have a real regular nice before who make up sore as I'll have a real regular night the night before then wake up sore I feel you. Yes Lord I do. Also the most FIL activity I've done in my whole life moving. Yeah we have nothing but time to do. These videos Yup that's what I live for. I live for work on Mondays stretching. I'm Thursdays stretching on Saturdays and then in between I tried to get them Paul but a a really pulled too hard last week and I my body you have to stop just like cleese. Take a breather. Just chill out. Burs can't so that's what I've been trying to do. You're going to be so ready. Her Palm I go back to sheer. That's the goal because my goal when we come back while my two year anniversary is in September fees. So Guy Crazy. Isn't it two years Most people can do more than I can do. But that's okay. It's a personal journey and I'm dying but I do want to ally. Oh thank you this year. You're still kind you so good but I do want to be able to invert by my two year anniversary. I think I think that's very possible. You're already then. You can climb so easily in multiple times in a row Shows me that you have a lot of upper body strength? I mean we already knew this but I feel like you got at his access. Certain part of your arms to get back. I think you'll do it. I think you're the times they have tried to invert. I think fear tick took over and it is very scary but They're gone to year. Maybe fear takes over like that song. We're love Jake so here that Kelly that Kelly Song Kelly. Kelly Rowan Roland on this role. Roland Roland Roland. I feel like it. Yeah I always oh The W through me because it should I see it. I can see that. Yeah I. It's honestly incredible. What my brain does because I would. I wouldn't say Rao it'd be like row row. Row your boat say row but you tach the rest of her name and I'm like rowling wish you were like row row row row your about what can be a stupid one. I have no idea either. Your birthday is a common. It is come in because very excited. It's May five and then the day is six yes I'm excited. I'm going to send you something. I don't know Wyatt. Maybe I was thinking of sending you another pair of jeans with fringe on them because I found an insane website called Venus dot com or like Venus clothing dot com and they have such weird shit. I bought two pair. Three pairs of Ham from them. One is one leg is light colored gene. The other leg is dark color gene. 'cause I was looking for color block. Gm and I think they're going to be really stupid. And then I found another there with leopard-print fucking cuffs and then rips on the Denham with leopard-print fabric. Are you kidding? I mean it sounds like you. I'm so excited I can show them. T- oh Oh yes. Share your screen. Yes I don't know how to do that. I was going to show you on my phone. Networks here okay. It's just I'm this outfits also sound like what the early two thousands pop looks were like like just or Justin timberlake and Britney Spears with different denim patches. Animal print peeking out. I mean that's kind of what it is a wait. Do they have we? Why isn't there this is really upsetting? Oh wait they're backward till July. This is sick. Okay here talk about something and I will find them. I wonder are we at the point. Where early two thousands fashion is coming back? The hitting something comes yes. It's back with vengeance. Did you not see my sketchers that I bought? Oh Yeah I guess so. Yeah but that was such of that era fashion And I'm so excited it's back okay. So here the G. One of the pairs of jeans I bought. They have crosses Yeah it's like their sneakers jeans. They fucking lace up in the front a like them the strap you in for fun unless they have a. Tiba Velcro strap out fair and then views the genes that I got. Oh Lord Out. Yes there so ugly. I love them so much. I discovered this website because I was trying to find hot. Pink Denim overalls here the Leopard. Of course yes. But I can't find hot. Pink Denim overalls. Seems like something should be easy to find right. That's what I said but I'll tell you I went to W. W. Dot Google Dot Com. And I put right search Bar Hot Pink Dynamo VI's and I couldn't find anything was that you didn't put www Com today not say this is insane? Ww DOT www I I mean it's been what a year and I still can't do it. I think I'm stuck in my eyes. That's IT I love change. Sorry who I as all right. That's fun I also finished planting my plans. Your regular farmer. I'm a fucking farmer. Lilies bloomed a little Nice Nannies. And I think my lavender's getting ready to bloom. I went out to water them today and I said look you guys. You're stunning. Yes you are. Let me feel your soil and then I then I also oil and it was not moist so I was like we gotta give so then I was like and then I was like I hope nobody is listening to me. It would be too much for someone to be like what is she doing. You're feeding your plans. I think that even when he talked to them that's nourishing them good. They're going to be very well nourished in loved. I have plants when I was in Brooklyn and it was actually proud that they were staying alive but then got these little tiny bugs. I had to get rid of them because he is a. They won the fight. We're kind of bugs here over the name. They're just like really tiny. I can't even. I have no idea what they're called but they go. They're going in the roots of the plants in in. Yeah I was like. Why are these plans so sick that I could see these little bugs? You got the Diet Tomatoes Earth and sprinkled that on them and try to air them out but they were still there and I was like I gotta get these at my house Lord. I'm so sorry and I haven't tried plant sense. Maybe maybe you try plans again. You want to come to home depot with me even going to every day. I live at Home Depot. Seen assure because John won't go with me anymore he was like once was fucking enough. These people I video that lady who cut out her nose and her mouth and her mask because she was like. It's easier to breathe. I was like these people that wear him has no and then everyone of their masks around their Chin for some reason it was who is intense. I'm still kind of scared to go out though and like I mean other than the grocery store I don't want to be around people fair I am a little scared to go like. I mean I think Friday. La is starting to reopen a little. Yeah and I don't know if it like includes restaurants but like I note includes like retail stores. I'm not going shopping. And everyone's touching close. Yeah their hands. And that's like the number one thing you can do at home. This is true decisive. I'm wanting yes I said to Jackson the other day I was like. I think I've run out of things to buy and he was like I'm sure you'll figure it out and then I did. Don't worry I saw some two-tone pants I I also bought some stuff from forever twenty one. I found paper bag jeans and plus size fucking finally. I didn't find them anywhere and I was like. I want to look like League Diane Keaton from the Eighties. Okay like this is what I this is the look I want. Yeah but I fucking found them. And I'm like sue happy in jobs and then I bought I keep buying because I'm never leaving my house and I'm never gonNa wear these things I bought it all white ensemble and it is tool and it's tiered tiered tool top and then white tiered tool pants. Wear it somewhere. I really got to see this. I don't know I'm visualizing something interesting. Oh it's very interesting. Let me see if I could find it. I'm sure everyone listening is like this is cool. We can't fucking any of these things you're talking about but if you're good little boys and girls. I will post them when I post this episode. You're just GonNa have to remind me not to forget. Okay okay okay. Don't about for a lamb. Lamb a lamp. Oh from where West L. which is my fav- but this lamp is maybe dumb. And the Damn land those like let's say it arch ones. That he was the. I have no way to do that. 'cause zooming on my phone move the situation to the sitting room but it's a it's like one of those curbed lands with the stem. Recall IT THE BASE. No the the the cylinder the skinny cylinder. Yeah the thing does the Kimmy we do. You know what we're talking about what its effects that West Elm I can find it. Could you know the name Sushi? Rivet maybe overarching pendant light or something like that. It's a floor lamp or pendant. We have a floor lamp. Let me give me a SEC. Okay all like a big ball bulb at the end of it. And then like a goal skinny arch the heavy bass. Okay hold on okay. It's like a floor light whereas a floor light. Okay Gotcha got. I think. The bank stem is that. That's it that is it. Oh dumb. It's too low and I don't understand it like I thought it was supposed to be. I guess as disparate behind the couch or something. We put it in the corner. Put a chair Nathan. And it's just like sticking in. The middle of the Ballpark is in the middle of the room. And it's like what is this supposed to light the floor. How interesting the picture does have it behind a couch. The era even like even behind the couch. It's our head might run into. It's like pretty low it. The picture doesn't give a justice in real life because it's hanging like to my boo or something so urged to be directly underneath. And you can't adjust the stem. Think so say that new office. Well I found a picture of Al White Ensemble. Okay that's good last thinking. What were you very like? Look at Church lady outfit tool really threw me off fair. Yeah I could see how that would throw you off. Yeah but NIA Purchase THAT'S THE. We did Doni dopamine economy. Did it all from home. It were supporting all the businesses we are. I'm supporting Home Depot. Venus this new website I found Forever Twenty one. Yeah I mean look look. A- look God well he do. I went to the gynecologist yesterday because the business. Oh yes. Essential Business. I love our ecologist. I do too. She's very nice in a sweet and I went to get birth control implanted in my arm. You have bar. I got the I guess the bar little thing in my are Now you get back to raw dog in I. I am really glad. Yeah it was pretty fearful for a couple of months just not knowing because we still had Madonna. Has you use a condom and not be fearful. We did and Saxon. I don't like it but use a condom and they're like what are we doing? We've been together for years using a condo and then we like last time we didn't but I was like fuck then my periods income like on time all the time Should it be here is coming? Actually what's happening boy? I'd give anything to have those fears Danny thing in the world but yeah interesting to see how this turns out. It hurt a lot. Earning her a lot. It was like sorry yesterday and I was trying to keep off of it during Torque but it actually feels a lot better now but I can still feel it. I think I will feel it for ever. Oh boy I'm not I don't I'm not. He don't want birth control that I have to do. I want men to get birth control. Yeah me too. Why the fuck is a my responsibility? It's not like I shoot something out of my pussy. That gets you pregnant. You shoot the pregnancy into me. You gotTA stop it ahead. They should have other Dick's delahoya woman can only get pregnant. Like I guess you can get pregnant twice a year but like you know you get pregnant you have it for nine months then. I guess in the last three months of the year you could possibly get pregnant again but you will not that kid until the next year where a guy can get multiple people pregnant anytime a man to get someone pregnant every damn day of the year man can make three hundred and sixty five babies a year but we can only make one to two babies a year like we covered some yes but bars in their dicks. Yes it starring here. Now put bars and in their bar for. Dick's put him there dinner. Dick's Yay they did try to do. Some sort of I don't know if it was uphill or shod or what which method it was. They did do some sort of birth control tests for men and they're all their comments. Were like I kind of lake feel bad. And he's changed and they stopped. It's like yeah man. That's what birth control is. We all have like hormonal groups and stuff will. 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God yeah the see is dairy powerful and Nast in you can destroy lot of stuff with water but you can also heal a lot of stuff with water and fires also like opportunity for rebirth like the Phoenix. And you can burn things down the same thing. It creates new life and opportunity for new things. Yup I picked it because I like to swim and I like flames. Hell Ya did just an equal out response. I didn't know you get all like deep on me. Okay pick a book Peter Pan by J M Burri. What a okay yeah. His name's jamboree like Jamboree. Oh Yes let's American guys Neil Gaiman the missed avalon by somebody Harry Potter by J. K. Rowling be old man and the sea by somebody the lion the witch and the wardrobe by somebody by somebody Louis the fellowship of the rings by a Rick James Martin are new yet. Jj L. An emergency element elementary Martin Moby Dick by Herman Melville the Hobbit by the same person who did fellowship of the Rings and Martin I'm GonNa Kimmy on the keys. 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To make unfortunate enough to pick a cy an obstacle someone who believes in magic someone with appear heart dinner someone who rises to the occasion someone who protects nature in annoyance someone who uses their strength wisely. And what was the question again? Was the hero. Oh Let's see okay. I'M GONNA go with when a hero comes along with the strengthening hairy on uses their strength wisely. Thank you mariah agree. I'm going to say someone who rise to the occasion. 'cause maybe they didn't know they were hero in the beginning of the story but they figured it out later. I like when they engage in Iraq's Guy Okay so we got a just a nice Sky with some cloudy is a night time sky with like maybe the Milky Way or some sort of like Cloudiness in and stars. This is like a sky at dusk where the darkness is coming but then the sun still has the clouds low read. This is the nighttime sky. But you can still see the sun setting in the background Raza City. 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You're active and good in groups at have little patience for people who disagree with your opinions of you. Put yourself on the winning side of any situation any have no problem with subtly manipulating situations to your advantage. Which makes you a powerful ally buck. I gotta go murder. I got Alpha not a Unicorn you beautiful aloof creature. You're one of the most revered and honored creatures in the fantasy world but you're also very hard to pin down your interesting mix of empathic politician and pragmatic dreamer. You believe in the power of justice but you also believe in the power protecting yourself. You're always willing to lend a hand but not to the point where I will negatively affect you. Oh my God I'm a fucking Elf. Yeah that's pretty on the nose. Your Whoa Take Me Paul. Hell Ya Nice. I like that. Yeah was very detailed to. Yeah so we all shop online a lot. I know I do I every day. I have some fun item delivered to my door whether it's a roller skates news. 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I apologize to whoever screen these but anyways My Name's Jay Thirty one And I have I have a question Some of the awkwardness about Cross gender friendships that I think probably a lot of your Male listeners are dealing with Give a bit of a background I'm actually transgender So for twenty four years of my life I live my life is woman now dude. I'm pretty comfortable with that and really myself in situation where I've relocated For Graduate School and so around a lot of people who didn't know me previously Everyone knows about me and pretty opener Bryant entity but I'm really now like in coming closer with a lot of women in my program which is full of amazing like Liberal Progressive Great Women. I mean there's there's some weird politics that I don't really understand I I think it's kind of. It's kind of weird kind of bullshit. I don't think that there should be an underlying sexual thing or expectations between men and women. But I'm realizing that there's like scripted. A lot of the straight women that I interact with sort of rely on and work around with so I think there's probably a lot of men who listened to the podcast and probably a lot of other trans guys who might be in a similar situation Do I WANNA know how you guys navigate that what you think about that? And I don't know just general advice for I don't know man who would like to continue to make closer friendships with women And and and making sure we're respecting sort of boundaries of such in just understanding how people really sort of those thanks anyway Big Show a special shot up to to Jordan also to carry on the keys who facilitate Probably some of my favorite sections of the show which is live Google Very rambling they of this. I just wanted to give you a call and see if you can ask my pleasure. Thanks bye Okay so the question was how to navigate. Friendships with women began as a man. Okay this is from me. Yeah just because like I have a lot of male friends most of which are gay but then also like my straight male friends. I have a lot of I. I think as long as you treat women with respect and you. It's just friendship like just I don't know I just don't hit them. I'm bed now I yeah I think I wonder yeah. I wish there was like a specific example of what things is person has been running into with women in their classes or in their program do they say there's like a certain set of rules or something that women. I asked for clarification actually texted Jay and asked for some examples and J basically clarified. That he just feels like a lot of the women have regarded in a way. He didn't experience. He was a woman and he didn't hug. Ask that any. He's blaming them. He's more like this is something new I'm experiencing now as a man how Dr Maneuver this. Well I mean him. I do think I divulge more information to my my friends who are women than my friends who are mentioned. Well that's true. Well I guess it depends on how close with that person. I have had very very close male friends who are straight men But I do think I have A. I don't know more like a sister bond with women. And maybe that could be just like societal constructs in Hauer raise. Where when you know. Little girls are usually grouped with other little girls. No boys usually group leather boys or also just be a communication style or it could be like we don't expect men to even want to know things that we have to say where we with girls. I feel more comfortable because it's like well you know they would want to now. We have. I guess part of me is like we used to just treat them like any friends. You know man men and women. They're your friend or your friends but I do think there are some different. Communication styles might come up in these different injured friendships. Yeah I yeah I think it's a it's an interesting thing that I truly cannot speak to because it is interesting to be like. Oh I was treated differently when I was a woman now. That a man. I'm treated a different way. I think it's just I think you can't force women to share more with you like if that's what you're looking for. I think you just have to give women their own time to share. Because I do think a lot of women are guarded near men because men aren't the best sometimes so I don't know maybe tell them that you like deep conversations. Is that we or they are. They can start compensation to and be like late if people see like. Oh this person's open and near me at this kind of stuff. Maybe I will feel comfortable talking about today about this stuff in return. Yeah if if that's feels natural. Yeah I will say with the some of the straight guy friendships have had when I'm just like talking about issues that's going on in my life a lot of times. I'll be met with someone trying to fix something for me in the brain. Works is like Oh there's a problem will. Let's just end it like Wha- What? How do we fix it as where to other women? I do feel like a lot of or to discuss it. We don't have to have a conclusion by the end of this conversation. We're GONNA like flesh out and then maybe it's all but but also it's okay for you event your emotions and just talk where. I don't have too many guy friends who are like yeah. Let's just talk. Talk all these emotions out as opposed to. Let's fix it now. Yeah and then I do appreciate wind. My male friends are like yeah. Let's talk and then give me like actual advice as opposed to like I was half listening Blah Blah Blah. That you know what I mean. I mean yeah. All options are good. Also I don't WanNa make statement all men do this on all women do but I have noticed that with friends. I've had in the past in currently where there's some were. I'm like I'm still looking at this person for this problem Oh I don't feel like having it salt right now. I just WANNA I just want to vent about it or complain about it or wilderness person because they actually will have a good perspective on it and probably will help me reach. Some sort of conclusion is a very interesting perspective for this person to had. I noticed a change between how people are Are Communicating with me during these friendships of and it's unfortunate like. I wish that wasn't the case but you can do. Yeah I say start some deep combos and let us know how that goes yeah. Let's do another one. Yes God K. quarantine extra dry. No Dry with extra olives. Hello friends let me move this screen so I can see better okay. Hello friends. Love the POD. Huge fans of both all of that fun stuff so obviously has been stressed about the corona virus in the last few weeks but my best friend is obsessed and paranoid of getting the Rona. Facetime her every day and it's literally all she talks about in his like visibly stressed. I'm worried that she's going to totally spiral or the paranoia will continue after all of this is over. Being cautious is smart and good. But can I tell her to chill the fuck out without being a Dick? Ps y'all have inspired me to start taking pole classes and I was one paycheck away from ordering poll for myself at home. Then a bitch laid off on both jobs and keep my money for the apocalypse Emoji with the hands up. Okay sorry it was kind of long love you all by good people to take pole. Hell Yeah nudes. Best thing honestly. I think it's the best thing I've ever done. I love it. Yeah me too strong This one's a little complicated because I don't know if her friend is being obsessive like actually obsessive in actually paranoid or if she has underlying OCD. Where I read this article about. Ocd last night. And I'm paraphrasing. Also a might get a little of the facts wrong because I m not a scientist but some some. Ocd manifests in people being overly cautious about getting germs. So then that turns into like Angora phobia where they like stay inside because their looks like outsiders. Germs I don't want to be out there So I think maybe you can talk to your friend about that. I think I would just say I'm a little concerned about the way you've been reacting with corona like. I know we're all scared but you seem to be taking it to an extreme degree. Do you think maybe you have underlying. Ocd I just read an article and thought about you but also read an article and get some facts so you can actually talk to your friend about it I don't know I would feel I don't know how it feels. Someone said. I think you have this condition fair. I wonder if they've reacted like this. Other things yeah but also I mean maybe I'm I am also scared Started episode talking about how scary I was even go home depot the parties like I mean it isn't appropriate response. We should be scared. This is a very Contagious Various and it is easy to get so having caution. Even if it's a lot of caution isn't a bad thing. There's people with two little fashion. I mean it shouldn't rule this person's life And it shouldn't be. I mean it doesn't have I the only thing that person's talking about this. The friend could also lake change the subject in maybe like they can watch the show together or something or find something in common that they can do in the moment as opposed to talking about the virus all the time but also I do want people to be cautious. Yes and do you want people to be cautious as well but if this is not I mean I would have to know more information if this is a singular episode where it's just the road again to her. I agree with this year but if this is something away. The friend reacts to everything there like concerned about there might be underlying issues. Yeah there might be but I feel like that's on the front the other person to figure out not the person who wrote in sure. I want to know more information. Yeah when you call her right in. Give us more information than you think we need. Give sell much information. We were information cleans lease yes. We're is Asian whores. Were so horny for information. Yeah I get off on Info. Yeah but if the person who wrote in is like These conversations are helpful. And or like this is like Rehashing the virus over and over again. That sucks it's not like these aren't even Flynn. Conversations feel Agreed as talk about timing. Mulling as we talked about. It is love pulling all right we solved. It sells it. Well I think that's it. Yes those good I right If you WANNA write words for us to read you can email Nicole year at dot com or if you WANNA talk words out loud to a device you can call these numbers. Four two four six four five seven zero zero three and we have merged at high flying dot com slash. 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Bringing Crypto Mainstream

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Perhaps dreams do come true while attending the alt- coin mastermind in bali. We had the opportunity to speak with two founders who are moving the needle closer in closer to mainstream adoption. You'll meet brandon bergerson founder of moby pay dot i._o. Who solution allows you to spend or send crypto or fiat it to any merchant or retailer directly from your cell phone and we'll also introduce you to jeff <unk> founder of uptrend dot com. He wants to make it easy for people to be rewarded for their content so let's explore these new solutions in two special crypto spotlight segments from bali on episode number three hundred six six of the bad kripo podcast and welcome to the bed crypto podcast show for the crypto curious the crypto serious and whatever level you're on wherever you find yourself on the scale of zero to ten in terms zip crypto knowledge were for you. I i'm crypto. I don't care yes. I don't carry us. See your your crypto so <hes> what's the word for plus. There's another one that's a good one. We need more synonyms. Oh okay another one for not uncaring okay. I can't think of the word that i'm trying to think of but i did go to duck duck go and i looked up to not care about something thing and this phrase always sticks out someone they say could care less that means you could care. It's someone couldn't of care. Less couldn't care less right when you say oh. I could care less than you're saying that you really actually you could care less but you don't you do care. You're more than you want. Some other synonymous phrases to not give a hoot or to not give two hoots not give a toss. That's that's something they say. You could not give a flying frog air to not give a damn through and then there's this one have have the hide of an elephant okay which is to be difficult to upset because of an elephant so there. We all learned something today. Yeah welcome back crypto folks. This is your first time tuning in. 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Fernanda also very cool two gentlemen that we had the opportunity to interview just just today of course this episode release a few days later while we're here in bali at the all coin mastermind and this is what we call our sponsored show cryptos spotlight segments mean that were being compensated for the content that we're bringing you by the founders of these companies but we vetted vetted them both or vet verified we check them out and we think what they're both doing is truly amazing and potentially world changing so so we're being paid so you don't have to be. That's true because we don't charge you guys anything those nor free concert. We have premium content. We never charge you guys anything. Thanks for anything so enjoy. You can't even buy bad coin socks from us. We won't sell that's true and actually both of these projects really cool. You're and once you're in that start now. Bom it seems like forever. We've been talking about the importance of applications and tools that make it super super easy for crypto adoption to take place. We've been looking for that. One you know killer app that could potentially be <hes> a nice universal payment matt system that is easy to use your mobile phone and is adopted widely by big companies and make it easy. It'd be nice to find line wouldn't might have found that solution. Oh yeah we're while we're here in bali. We have run into brendan bergerson. He's a big guy so he's easy to run into and literally brennan the elevator. Yeah see this is all i'm saying and he's developed a universal payment. Ecosystem called moby pay m. o. b. e. a dot i o. That might be that entry point solution brandon welcome to bear crypto. Thanks for having me on board. Guys appreciate the time so we've kind of talked about what what the problem is in space. Maybe do you wanna baby. Elucidate expand on that a bit more were how broken the system is yeah well. I think it really comes to mainstream user adoption. I think that's what every company's trying to solve at this point. That's what you know. Bitcoin was intended to be payment solution and just hasn't reached that and we believe we've created a solution to handle that and a couple of different ways good elevator. Speech is really good so i'm curious about how you guys are integrating rating with existing point of sale systems right so you've you've connected says with over two hundred and twenty-five different p._o._s. systems systems over five hundred top retailers tells a little bit about the yeah yeah so we <hes> we creatively utilized existing rails had been in place that are already with these big big retailers and we have a patent pending process in how we utilize those rails to <hes> to use crypto currency for these everyday purchases so we have about three hundred and fifty plus just in the u._s. alone but these are integration that are done through a third party service provider <hes> and that's where it kind of our patent comes into play okay. Here's the <hes> the one liner on your site. Moby pay allows you to instantly spend or send any major fiat cryptocurrency directly from your smartphone mart phone to retailers in users. Globally i mean the idea here is to make it completely friction lists for regular people that don't understand how to open up a bitcoin wallet right right well. I mean i think the problem with these bitcoin wallet scissors long strings of numbers and letters and it just that for me that never seems like any normal normal person or grandmas or or teenagers will actually understand numbers and letters are confusing yeah very long strings and we said you're my my my some corner here or the b seven three four nine eight g two four nine eight three yeah then he's been sending their and it gets lost if someone misses a digit in the copy of that so our system is off off chain and we've integrated purposely to with different blockchain's to avoid this so we can actually send crypto currency or fiat directly to a mobile phone or email the address without this specific need of a crypto address and we actually tested this last night you literally sent me some moby to my mobile phone number and and i didn't have an account at says you've received x. Amount of moby click here to to set up your wallet and then i went in my wallet verified my phone number and then boom only the money showed up immediately in my account is that is that the patent tells about the patent because it seems to me that that is the killer part of this that is like that amazon azzawi one click payment solution like the pan that you have. Maybe could be that there are several from pans. The patent on the retail system is is is really trying to bridge the gap until we can get mainstream adoption with merchant so out. That's why we're using these big retailers to then go and leverage that to get smaller small all medium sized businesses to get them onto the platform in our patent really is really friction lists in a couple of different ways that we pending and really it's about skinny a barcode authenticating entertaining with your fingerprint or your face transactions done and no more of this different verifications. It's a very simple process. I'm really disappointed that you don't have anybody named richard. I heard on your team right. 'cause you need a moby dick. I'll hoy now now you <hes> you told me yesterday by the way we're we're actually in the mastermind room right now. We're so the med critical podcasts film before a live studio audience. All you guys say hi. Hey guys hear that okay say real people we could have just put that in a sound effect on nobody would've known the difference so we can use keuchel episodes right. I don't know i don't know what you are at liberty to share in terms of what you said off the record but in terms of partnerships and reach tell us what you can tell us sure well. I think we're focused on about five different unique use cases for <hes> you know some massive players in the space one's a players in the space of some big companies that are up and coming. One is a rideshare business. Another is an e sports on november and not left. Not lifted will be the third biggest one in the u._s. They partner with miami dolphins so i just alone prelaunch they have about seventy five thousand the users on board and every user. We'll have to have mobile transit traffic drive right. That's your ride show survey people around yeah and here in indonesia. It's grab. You grabbed him by the sit down. Be careful where you grab here in indonesia <hes> so now one thing that was interesting. We had a conversation conversation around gift cards and why you know merchants are loving this because you're creating a new revenue stream for them and then the the way that you take the information and then create a create a q._r. code or something tell us about that is that sounds really interesting well. I mean the q._r. Code generation is is very simple so as a merchant you don't need any type of hardware are needed download the app and we can generate a q._r. code in any form of currency than the merchant conceit received their local currency. It's converted for absolutely free with no fees. There's not as we know we're not building in any type of crazy arbitrage with these other companies like bit pay <hes> but that's that's the q._r. code. What is is is a big deal ninety five percent of the transactions in china done based on q._r. Code pay and ali bay twelve trillion dollars last year. It's a massive market so so i think we'll see this more in the western states and europe and u._s. as we i really thought that the q._r. code was the dumbest thing on the face is the earth and then occasionally you'd see somebody stick on a billboard on the highway and wonder what the hell are you thinking you know you're going by. You're gonna hit a q._r. Code that's not safe safe but has made q._r. codes functional and cool. That's all you have to say about that. He agrees i agree one out of one brand and agrees the q._r. codes rock that has no they're great in in you know i didn't really know much about until i really dove into the space and started building out mobile mobile mobile pay and for us. It's just it's a great tool and you can program and it's dynamic. You can program it to any currency so it's really like and it's easy to implement so you said you take no fees. So how does how does mobe actually make money we have about nine different revenue models and the the biggest one that we have at this point is <hes> relationships with our third party service providers or third party merchants and retailers we make a i would say a commission from them and we part of our user adoption strategies. We give a portion of that commission that we make back to them to to to incentivize them to use the application. I want to go back to partnerships for more because i think that having partners with wide reach is really going to be the essential essential element that brings crypto. I don't know that it you know your your application. Certainly does everything that you intend for it to do right but whoever gets the partnership deals to onboard hundreds of thousands or millions of people or the ones that all of a sudden they're waltz are going to be in their hands right and i think the problem is that a lot of these companies are going going very forefront crypto. We're really going after the mainstream mainstream consumer mainstream business and we're utilizing the blockchain technology but we're also utilizing utilizing certain systems that we are with these rails that i spoke to you about to bridge the gap and hopefully when you know five ten years down the line we can we can see more more more dopp absolute for the masses. It's so crypto. You won't even know you're doing it. Yeah absolutely i mean for us. It's the friction this application and taking all the different steps out of it and the confusion when it comes to crypto in really utilizing a good user experience within the application that makes it simple. It's so crypto. Take a caveman can do it. That's what that's so. There's three different elements. It looks like we have mobile. Was yeah the consumer wallet. You have moby x. Which is the currency exchange and you have moby will be pay. Which is the merchant to let me talk about talk about those because i think you know it's interesting. Maybe this is the first of all what's moby x. Movie x.'s that's our joe uh-huh and trading sorry yeah so we mobile mobile exit we bill three separate products specifically for three different demographics and mobile app is targeted for crypto user so that's all the crypto assets anything you see normal crypto wallet but you can able to spend that crypto at these retailers globally it also houses are in-app exchange data data that we have built so you'll be able to swap crypto for instantly within the app on the platform and i think the biggest thing that we're doing that most people aren't as we're building a mainstream consumer consumer and retail banking app and this is where these integrations with these rideshare companies integrations with these influence technologies as a pure payroll all source so we can right now we have the billy to mass end any form of currency whether it be bitcoin crypto i mean in theory him <hes> u._s. dollars or moby coin point instantly to anyone's wallet in here's what we haven't brought up yet and this is one of the things that excited me. Is you chose stellar yet to build your blockchain on absolutely stellar for rush is a micro payment system and what they've done compared to every other platform out there. There's different apps. You can build on ear she twenty and whatnot we're stellar. It's all about payments and it's a cost of transaction that speed so a stellar you can do one hundred thousand transactions for a penny and settles in two to five seconds so that's very important for for our ecosystem and also our token is built on stellar which provides a pivot to fiat and crypto currency globally using their anchoring system super fast nast so you're you know with with the moby pay for merchants and the settlement app. Why would a merchant not want to use it. They wouldn't i mean we. We have an actual affiliate affiliate revenue model for them. That's non existent without our platform and this is the primary reason we've been able to land. Some of these major partnerships that we have is because we are thinking outside the box. Also we have proprietary data from joint venture that provides are merging with data to help sell more to their existing companies our customers and and to acquire new customers. Can you talk about some of those key partnerships new yes so one of them is <hes> trip rides. Trip is a software as a service platform that it just launched in the u._s. Two weeks ago and miami <hes> they officially partnered with the miami dolphins so that's great for us. What good is they have. Seventy five thousand users as i mentioned earlier and every user and driver rider driver has to have moby to transact so it's kind of peer to peer system so we have active users right out the gate of seventy five thousand. I'm just for moby and then we're currently integrating our esotique into their software. There's a retailer that we can use this. Yeah retailers can't over the retailers right now but the some of the biggest retailers dollars in the united states the big box stores and things of that nature watch will be doing a p._r. Released here in the next month or do that see that's big to me. I don't know oh you guys here that are listening with us. Would you agree that having the partnerships that are automatically going to onboard. Maybe that's actually the killer hilar app because we talked about that yesterday here in the mastermind and i think natural organic adoption is is really. I don't think it's going to matter what the app is. If moby pay is the one that gets into the hands of hundreds of thousands or millions of people guess what it's a very crypto world <hes> mhm i wanna ask what about your team. So what makes you guys sort of qualified to be able to launch this type of ecosystem yeah well. It makes you so a makes us well. The first person we brought on the team as our essentially our chief of counsel brian o'neill and everyone thought i was crazy doing a crypto project in the united states because the s._e._c. you see he's formerly s._e._c. Also formerly chief counsel new york stock exchange so from a compliance standpoint. We started there and then we move over to our c._t._o. Nick kuni and nick builds an accounting software <hes> up to about five hundred employees. I believe in sold it to sage which is the largest technology company in the u._k. So he understands accounting systems and lettering systems off chain which allowed us to build what we know. He's moby dick moby. Dick says younger brother moby dick wasn't available. We'll take nick <hes> love it. Just don't have any con artists on the team because then you'd have moby slick. Oh now see that's why we got the name bad crypto because i wasn't really bad so as we get ready to close at us or anything else that you want to make sure our listeners know about moby pay well. I think it's just the you know the the strategy for the mainstream adoption and that's really the key here and i think a lot of people people were focused on crypto a very small part of the demographic in the world that understand that so i think strategically were bridging the gap in that manner and have a real life application location with a real user adoption strategy the that's sets us apart in a real business right. We're not we're not a project. We're not a concept. We have a live beta right right now. You can transact. You can do certain things on but again. It's the real business and a real a real user. Adoption strategies thinks what sets us apart. I i think the the biggest coup would be to get moby the musician as an influence or reached out to them yet not yet not yet about it. Possibly getting is spelled differently. Maybe maybe this this is sort of an aside. Let's see. Is there anybody in here that maybe has a question that they would want to ask so. We've got a meal who is the founder of the coin mastermind that were at right now <hes> he was on a previous episode. What number were you remember. He number <hes> bad co dot i._n. Ryan ford slash. I don't remember and he's got a question for <hes> for brandon yeah. Hello i would like to ask how is the app gonna help people without oughta bank and people with a bank that they might not like great questions so our long term strategy is service in the une banked and we i truly believe that commerce and having the availability to this technology and countries like mexico africa philippines. We're really help with those poverty areas and that's with our phone. There's zero need for a bank account or debit card because we're integrated and we'll be integrating with pila systems like oxo oxo in mexico someone from the u._s. These ascend grandma. You know one hundred bucks in in u._s. Dollars it then opens up in pesos in mexico. She walks into oxo so no bank account no debit card and can transcend. No smartphone needed dina smartphone dnc. You just need a phone you uh phone so dumb phone or well. There's a text message feature that will be we'll be implementing but it doesn't need a bath some sort of applications. Does someone intelligent like joel. Someone intelligent barely intelligent. That'll be enough excellent. The website mobile paid. I oh we'll be keeping our eye on you brandon. Thanks for joining us stained agents this bump. Thanks guys all right great content from brandon. The dude is super knowledgeable like when he was filling in last night before we did the interview. There was so much more content share his excitement levels contagious virtual now. I'm super excited. I got it from him. Gosh oh no the crypto crypto contagious a so many us words that can be either pulled from the existing dictionary mary or made up. That's true the made up its word. There's a sponsors. Our sponsors nasr goeas nasr. Go nasr go dot com. You guys know were. They are there to go daddy of blockchain. Who's your daddy nasr. Go is go daddy so nasr. Go to nasr go dot com <hes> because started right yeah because you wanna look blockchain could be super confusing for businesses that want to get on blockchain. They wanna token is their business. Somehow whether you're an individual influence in you wanna have your own tokens or whether your business you wanna token is what it is that you're offering to the public in nasr go his built the tools so you don't have to it's all super easy. Just go to nasr dot com. 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Okay nary a peep when we're standing by still l. because if they ever do launch it we own the search engine for us news real far right. Yes yes let you know what there are. Some others in the space that already have existing projects and have built up significant community in one of those is at uptrend uptrend dot com uptrend with two ends that we've got the crypto community builder himself jeff caracas with us to talk about it. What's up uh-huh joel happy to be here on the show with you guys drive yeah so <hes> give us elevator speech what is up trend of china's built to be the next evolution in social media the big idea is that everyone i believe that everyone in the world should be able to earn a thriving income off doing what they love. So whether it's blogging <hes> arts doesn't matter if you can put it online you should be able to make an income from that and what's happening right now with facebook twitter. They're monitoring us as commodities and so up trying to built to kind of be the savior savior of that and to empower people see so you're naked porn shots. Travis should be making money really yeah according to why i'm not gonna pay for it but well if you want. I'll send them to you for free yeah so wh- is actually a lot of folks. Maybe don't even know this as you listen to our show when joel and i started even before bad crypto. We were working with the project <hes> that was planning on doing something kinda similar. It was called deep sea deep s. e. ee dot i._o. And the <hes> the c._e._o. Of the company kinda was like yeah. I want to do something like reddit twitter. No no no. I want to do something like you know like dude. Pick alang brocchi okay deep sixty six the deep sea and you know if we would have had everything all the ducks in a row probably. Can i see owed it. Just be interviewing ourselves as though we would it wouldn't it wouldn't even actually we would've said hey we this. I see own our in bali good now so so so tell us what was the. What was the adia behind setting this up. What was that moment like this all sucks. I need to create something different. I think it was just a a culmination of everything coming together. I run like a pretty large facebook community around a million people and just how the algorithm of facebook works is just absolutely terrible. You're not getting quality content out there. I find like and i'm sure you guys can relate to this. Finding good content. Online especially in a relate to crypto is really tough. It's so segregated out there some here some there and so. We just decided you know there should be a better option out there so i just decided you know what i'll try to bootstrap this thing. I'm not gonna run an ice yoke so jaded by these projects like you're talking about raising thirty million dollars. There's nothing to show for it so i'll just put something together. See what happens and <hes> yeah. The response has been a really really good so far. Allies has been launched. It's been less for eight months okay and <hes>. It looks very reta. Tisch to me when it was. Would you say that's what you're most patterned closely to right now. Yeah we have a full website update depending on when this is airing <hes> it should be like right now. What is it august with the day taste never fourth. It should be coming out within the next two weeks. They will have a massive. You've a full desktop and mobile upgrade so it'll look a lot less similar to read it. <hes> just because again i was bootstrapping the whole thing from the start so she said to give the developers like a framework to work with so that's originally going to call it reddish oreo. That was the plan yeah. Here's here's the the one shortcoming of all all these social communities that we're starting to see rise up. Everybody's talking crypto on them right because that's what's drawing us away from traditional social media which is broken to these new sites that are crypto based and how do we get the mainstream to go. I wanna earn some of that one up token. I don't know what the hell that is but they're giving it away yeah and again right now just because we're we're trying to take things in real. <hes> methodical incremental steps so right now. It's only crypto content. That's allowed on there but eventually it'll be all types of contents and the reason why we didn't open it up. All content from the inception is just because let's say there's like a low number of members say a thousand. Some people are talking about cupcakes. Some people talk about race cars. Were talking crypto. The engagement on the post is just gonna be really low. There's not going to be the feeling of a cohesive conversation so that's something we really wanted to do and secondly. If someone's you know like a forty year old mom and she talks about cupcakes. There's a high likelihood that she is not gonna be able to. I use our system like we have to. You have to import your transaction has to re- to like deposit tokens and things like that. It's for a crypto person. It's easy for me. It would be insane and so as we scale up brand into these other topics. We'll have a lot more simple systems that are more so on chain and just built in wallets but for now. It's a little more complex just because that's what our budget has allowed for makes sense. It'll be an army okay. I'm trying not to. I'm trying to be a cryptovest so one of the one of the post right on your on on the front page there that that you had set up is like how has uptrend influenced your quality of life and i've read through this <hes> an show notes and was read through like wow there's a lot of people from a lot of different countries who this is already having a significant impact on so you want to talk about the one hundred percents <hes> so like on uptrend people can earn the equivalent of around twenty twenty dollars per day if they just posting any social media platform and so to us in the first world. It's like twenty bucks pocket change. It's night out on the town like a drink or something the three massages and that's right yeah exactly but for some of these people i think what a lot of the first people fail to realize is that over fifty percent of the global population lives on less than ten dollars a day and so we're able to double their daily income just for them interacting with social media so there's been people posting things like i can afford lord food for my family and a like a new electricity and things where i had to like not have electricity for the last week so it's been superpower from nigeria was like man. This is having a profound effect on my life was amazing. It was a prince. I think he probably was trying to something. I've got a question about the one token whatever somebody makes the earned someone up token. Did you hear this sound yeah. We actually in dense aaron actually add that sound yeah. That's great in actually in denver we have. I'm a place called one up arcade bar and arcade so is one kansas city show. I think there might be already could be a chain that has absolutely nothing to do with the token. There's nothing to do with it. All i sound yeah no i i. I like it so you know. One of the issues. Surrounding social media is is free speech right now. We know that these are all private platforms out there and they can do whatever the heck they want to do. All though in my humble opinion they should be considered. I heard you know publishers and subject to the same laws at any publishers would but <hes> that notwithstanding how do you draw the line on what you will allow and what you want yeah and as a really important point to talk about because you know you can go on one side of the spectrum and you have silk road road. Which obviously we just can't we can't do. It's highly illegal. Killing people for money is not good exactly yeah so i mean silkroad has has it's pluses and negatives for sure <hes> i'd say it was more of a net positive than anything in my own opinion for ross no ross dot org hundred percents <hes> and then so you have other other platforms like minds right now and they were really free speech orientated as well and we're just trying to discover what that line is for us. We want to be very very free speech. That was one of our foundational national pillars is like a lack of censorship or freedom of speech but we're just starting to navigate those waters on like okay. What is that inherently. Gonna look to create the right conversation 'cause cause if you go on minds there. There is some pretty citius stuff on there gab. I mean i know is much is were glad that sites like gab can exist. It doesn't take long long for somebody that is opposed to some speech. They don't like to say look at it. They've got frigging nazis. Yeah like actual real living breathing. Nazis abc's posting hateful in things on the site. How do you avoid that ensued you. Yeah i mean that's a great great question and it's something that we're discussing on the team consistently right now. We're only open to crypto content so if someone's posting about nazism or hate speech it's like okay great well. That's an automatic delete for us. Just crypto nazis tis we have yet to encounter any advisor. Crypto nazi nazi coin scout the swastika sticker. I thought about this. I joke about that. I'm jewish and that's okay yeah. I've actually thought about the solution for that is as i think it should be the audience related they should do the moderation almost like a troll comes on there and they get a percentage of oh every time this person posts they get so many negative like overtime like yeah. Their ability you too uptrend goes away but now so now you've got mob mentality among rural if their dishes because it's like yeah but the thing thing is is that if you have a a heavy-handed moderator that can just eliminate anyone or you know a lot of times these communities. They're not going to have the threshold of of the of the crowds to go. Oh in a negative everyone and if that's the case then you could monitor the people who are oh this person only negative speech monitor the monitors at a level two and i could see why you guys internally really are struggling with this because that line is a really tough thing to draw yeah and even you know you mentioned community moderation. Let's say we had a lot of left-leaning people join the platform. I go and now a right. Leaning guy comes in and starts pushing his agenda. He's going to get crushed so there's a lot of validity in kind of dow style and community governed thing but there or is just this like very fine balance needs to be explored in terms of freedom of speech and who does it and is there moderation and on chain off chain and g._d._p. Is just a crazy world so we're trying to explore that right now. Where where are you now with that. I mean again. It's all crypto related. Content the moment but you know the time is coming soon where where you're gonna have to. You're going to be confronted with some really big questions in your face like hypothetical yeah and right now we still have a year before we're going to want to start branching out into other topics and those topics are going. It's not going to be like we're open to the world now. It's going to be safe finance and then a motivation or related exactly so it won't be alike. We're going crypto and then nazis so it'll sound from crypto oh to nazi yeah the evolution of uptrend yeah very good very let's not go there. Yeah not a good idea so tell us about the team and you know maybe the long-term vision vision of uptrend for sure yeah. The team is pretty much all built from the communities because we're on the facebook news we have about fifty for moderators and what is that group by the way <hes> so. There's a bunch the best last one <hes> the one that has like the best engagements called cryptocurrency investment. You can just search that on facebook has about one hundred forty thousand members in that one yeah and then there's there's lots of other groups but that would be the one to hop into if you're looking confer for good contents and about fifty moderators at moderate this entire network and they all have experienced in crypto different projects of worked with hydro one of the guy just tons of experience so we when we launched uptrend in january just said hey whoever is keen to hop on hop on and so it's been pretty much a community driven project from the very inception and even now <hes> we'll have people when when we see like a superfan on uptrend we'll be like hey if you want to join the vibe ambassador team feel free and so then from there that can kind of show their true through colors see if like okay they got just a good work ethic and then we we just raise them up so it's kinda like anyone i divide ambassador because thing we talked about positively or negatively negatively and you know you go on reddit or twitter. It's pretty negative there and so one thing that i'd say as a foundation of trying to it's really positive there's not any negativity that happens there and so people like that's join soon <hes> we're wow that hurt me and my heart place just a little bit. You gamified this as well. I see on here level one level two and level up joe explain what that's all about yeah definitely so level one when you'll every time you get a vote on whether whether you're posting your commenting you'll get one token. When you get to level two you get one point one level three one point two every time you level up up. You actually earn whatsoever so every level it gets twenty five percent more of a bigger spread so it'd be like one hundred points to get from. I'm level ones level two hundred and twenty five points to get from rival. What's what's the level cap. What's a high level. There's no level cap. No i can become like infinitely powerful and uptrend but but the thing is that you can have an infinite amount of power you could toss in ten million dollars into uptrend go to level. Let's say one thousand but the thing is you're not going to earn unless you're content is still good because if people aren't giving you up votes then you don't earn anything. Do i get new powers and abilities when i mean i'm an amyloid on that right now. Warcraft you know and all of a sudden john i've got more hit points become funnier. Actually no we're really working on. <hes> gamification of the platform is not our first priority right now. We have a lot of things you know if you're on on mobile. It's still pretty archaic on the u._i. So that's our first step is like okay upgrade the u._i. And then start to really get heavy on preventing duplicate accounts and like people game a fine the platform and then from there we'll start to move into like its own game occasion and these kinds of things that you're talking about and you are you attaching thing accounts do a phone number or how do you keep make it so people can't korea and this has been a discussion that we've had for for quite some time lots of discussion so we have a lot oughta discussions. Do you have a lot of actions to the calls are like if it's three hour call two hours of creativity and one hour of implementation tation usually so we have this documents called like uptrend notes and it's like eighteen pages long of stuff where we're like. We want to implement this in the future but just on the priority butts to get back to the question. What was the question already dropped it. I'm sure it was really good yeah because i asked it right so good. I don't remember it either. Yeah like different features and we're still working on building out those keys in crates kinda like in video games that you can unlock doing certain saying boxes exactly and so a big ideas to have different projects potentially sponsor those blue boxes for nice exposure and just free to give away to the community. The big idea for uptrend is just that we're trying to add value to people not became this corporate conglomerate thing so we're we're like kind of like the antithesis antithesis of like facebook yeah so so the one uh token yeah right. That's that's exchange. L. exchanges yeah right and it's on quinn market cap and i think quinnipiac. Oh probably the ones yeah so how how is it is. It mind is it. You know what what happens. How <unk> out his new one ups get created. How many are there. Maybe tell us about the token of the parts of projects and again just because we had like such bootstrap budget we had to really think of a low low budget solutions so we unfortunately had to do a pre mine <hes> so right now everything's just in a cold storage wallet so then whenever somebody withdraws appoint into a token we just pull it over the cold-storage wallet points to tokens explain that it's essentially it's a it's a one to one ratio one point so if you're a level one one vote one point one token oh okay yeah so so right and there's how many a one billion one billion and and then over time <hes> like as the total supply decreases or and or circulating supply increases how much much that ratio is will decrease so they'll the pool fund will never eliminate people who are on there right now are earning more than say in five years time but who knows what could happen with the token price so it may actually even out and that's what we're building our token onyx around as <hes> we actually have one up as a deflationary currency so anytime in action happens on the platform. We're actually burning tokens from the from the cold storage slow be less tokens overall exactly yes we we allocate thirty percents of the tokens we burn them so like if you if you do one vote which is one token will burn point three and then we'll allocate <hes> twenty percents into a community growth fund is what we call it which essentially they are. I phase into a dow so the ideas at uptrend will run as a dow and we're gonna do a security token issuance for it'll be the first social media platform in the world where the people on the platform both control the direction and only equity. Oh that's very cool so you're based here in bali right. How much of your team is based here in bali and what is your experience variance been like living on the other side of the world because this is our first time ever here in bali and we've been blown away by the beauty in the low cost of things and the kindness of the people and the seven dollar massages. The joke loves yeah well. Hopefully you guys saying that will convince the team to come over. A lot of them have families. I'm the only one in bali right now but we're trying to get <hes> in either january or february a good number of us together. We'll rent a spot for one month and just do a big team. Intensive here in bali is the idea and <hes> 'cause yeah yeah like you said it's so inexpensive to live. The quality of life is so good and this is. It's ranked <hes>. I forget what the website is but it's ranked number. One spot for digital nomads to live so the entrepreneur community community is on fire here. I want to be part of that. I wanna come out for a month. We'll go ahead. Yeah sounds grew. Stopping your houses literally baller and your check on my house two thousand dollars a month. You're like what like like heart bad ass hardwood floors and amazing pool. I yeah that that place in l. A. would be like fifteen twenty eight thousand san francisco. You're really gonna hurt the fee fees of people that live in san fran and they're paying thousands closet and literally they are crazy it. It is insane. I'm gonna go hang on jeff's house. All right jeff is with uptrend dot com again. That's uptrend with two wins. I'm assuming because the other was taken or did you just wanna be hilariously because the other one was taken but we're already in contact with that guy and we already have the price for the website simple eventually switched to uptrend with one end but we just gotta get the funding i and so we're we're a slow growth project right now. Even though we're on boarding like two hundred and fifty new users a day but we're taking things methodically yeah there's all may you continue to uptrend. Thank you very much door downtrend mr joko. How why are you in your old. That's nice okay. You can turn to thanks man. I remember checking out uptrend when he was first launching this thing earlier this year and it's really encouraging urging to see their on boarding two hundred and fifty people a day. I know that doesn't sound like a massive amount but that's growth and that's what we need. We need people every every day. Adopting this technology in there going wait i can make twenty bucks a day posting my content. I mean he made it sound like you know in the western world oh well that's just a meal. You know what i'll take. Twenty bucks extra day for my opinion. If you're kind of how much you get instagram not only are. They not paying me a dime but they're monetize ing me right right. We are the commodity social media sites bank on if we're not using their platforms yes they. They can't sell sponsorships true. They can't sell that they cannot do that. So yeah that you know in this was really one of the beginning things that sort of brought joel together. 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Writing

The Complete Guide to Everything

1:03:34 hr | 1 year ago

Writing

"This is a head gum podcast. Hello and welcome to the complete guide. Everything podcasts about everything. I'm your host. And I'm Tim, Tim. How're you doing this week, Tom? I'm very very tired. Yeah. Have you been getting enough sleep? No. Let me ask you this. Good. Topic of discussion. Great. I'm glad about this. We've settled at a topic of this because I thought for a while this might just be dead air for an hour. But I have something to talk about or to ask what is love being asked questions. What is hopefully you don't knock my lights out for asking such a personal question. What is your situation with your wife when you wake up in the morning re alarm clocks? I am Tom. I'm glad yes. Okay. None of your. I was afraid you weren't going to let me finish. My said was the situation with your wife in the morning. You had punched my lights anytime, which what's the situation with your wife, even that would be that would be like, what are you trying to move in honor, Tom salad. It is getting along lately. Get along or these air any any chance for a wedge between you two that would be clumsy thing for you to ask. If that were the case, I probably wouldn't come right out and say, yeah, you these smart not to you know, what the obvious what my intentions were great. But what is your situation with alarm clocks in the morning? L'armee clocks in the morning. You say I set my alarm for nine minutes before ten minutes before her alarm clock goes off to head start on the day. No. Because I always have jump out of bed every day going, ten minutes ahead of you sucker all day. Good luck catching up eat my dust. We don't like shovel oatmeal and deer mouse. Take a thirty second shower run out the door. No, she's very patient because you know, me, can you imagine what I'm doing. When of set my alarm the night before like at night, I'm going to bed. Can you? Imagine what's going through my head. This. I don't wanna go to bed now. It's it's it's kind of like, I don't wanna go to bed, and it's like, well, okay. I'll set my alarm for really early. So I could get up a show that never happened. Never actually actually this week. It's been happening. I'm back on it. I'm running in the morning. Yeah. Six AM going out for run six AM run. It's still dark out go to the gym treadmill? It's also very cold out. Yeah. It's cool. But when you run you get warm, I don't get warm. My my coalface starts to hurt. Oh, well, it's been killing me. Yeah. Said walked right, Tim that was the hallway resign. I asked all Slough expertly long walk. So so mostly I don't know we we both like generally up at the same time. Yeah issue. We're both hitting snooze on some days. We'll why do you ask? Why do why do you need to know? My my routine with my wife. No, not specifically you and your wife. I was just thinking like I have an alarm clock. I have one of those light up alarm clocks. Oh, I had one of those two. I love this thing all it lights up. And then it goes it makes bird noise. I know this bird noise. Alarm clock, Tom I had I had to on Craigslist because for your sale it to sell it. Okay. Why would you think I would say sale? I think that is what you said. Is being recorded. Even so using context. Yeah. I lived up word sometimes sometimes I talk like a southern fail sale. Leagues. But Tom you knew of selling it. Yes. You. From you. I would I would I wouldn't want to own something that's been in your bedroom. What it would if it started talking? Sorry, telling me what it seen. I don't know what this alarm clock does beyond. Oh, the one. I have it has a spike can cool. That's not what your says. Okay. Yeah. That's why wasn't interested in buying it. Why did you sell it? Because I didn't want to. It's not conducive to waking up. In a bed with somebody else. Exactly. That's what got me thinking about this. Because I was thinking about today where I was like, oh, I like this alarm clock. Like it shouldn't wake me up. Like, it's just a little bird tweets. Like, it's not that loud. But like it wakes me up. No problem every late. It's it's the combination. The light comes up. You said it, right? Like, yeah. For like ten minutes before fifteen minutes before you want to wake up. No. You stay for the time. You wanna wake yes starts like twenty minutes. But then it gradually just gets later. And then by the time they played those bird noises. You're ready your brain like up. I've i've. Yeah. Mauri? Hathaway your your caveman brain is like, oh, yeah. I know the sun's rising. I can I can see it through my eyelid. It's not the sun to Phillips the blight bulb. Yeah. That is the every time I wake up from it on Mike tricked, again thought this was the son, but it's not it's a piece of electron IX. No. But it made me think about a that. I have that wakes me up. No problem by live alone. So it's like there's no problem. But then I did think about like. Oh, yeah. Times a bike guest have slept over. They've complained about that. Really? Yeah. And like I'm just used to it like a wakes me up very birds in here. Right birds at a lot of times the way that I get women asleep over is that I tell them I have birds. Oh, they're impressed. And they're like well. Yeah. But the only come out in the mornings the stay over until. Until the morning to see him. And they're like, all right. But you know, we can't sleep in the same bed. I'm like, no, it's fine. I'll sleep on the couch. And then know by the end of like, why don't you do this is you are on the couch on the cow? I what this was sounding a little suspect. No, that's old thing. Like, I get ahead of myself. And my. I tricked another one sleep over. And then I wake up in the morning on the couch. Not a good. Mill. But that's the thing. I've trick them into sleeping in my bed. But I'm not in my bed. I understand the your intentions were not pure. It's what I'm saying. I don't even know what my intentions were. Because like I said, you know, the whole time on Mike while I'll sleep on the couch. And and I think like they'll be real impressed by these birds. I think I forget that the birds aren't even real because then you're scrambling at four AM like I gotta get some birds by the time, she wakes. Yeah. I'm going around the to all the different pet shops. And they're not open them banging on the doors. I gotta get birds by the time by the time this bird wakes up that that strike tooth Dems. Yeah. But yeah, then eventually they'll arm goes off she wakes up, and you know, and she's always like, oh, oh the birds. I've been hearing so much about. Oh, right. Yeah. The birds have been here about oh, they just fly out the window. Because all lights came on. Yeah. They hate lights spending so much time at the Audubon society. To pick up ladies. Yeah. Old that well, that's where the older women liked to hang. So these are older women. Yeah. I never always like, well, I'll bring my binoculars. So I can see them like, yeah. You should bring. Yeah. Bring the binoculars. I mean where else gonna find women that are so interested in seeing birds at they'll spend the night. Another thing that I can't do is. I know you want to to this conversation there probably should ended if five minutes ago, if we're being honest, but the you know that app on your phone where you put the phone on your bed, and it knows when you buy like, your your art your Remm sleep. Yeah. And then like you set a time like I wanna wake up between six thirty and seven and it finds the time. If finds a time where you're like a little bit moving around most away like. And then it and said when you're in deep sleep and somebody waits what where am I is your coming avid dream usua-? But have a lot of dreams lately to I'll tell you about that. Or this is great, please. And so that that also woke me up very nicely and gently, but you can't do that if somebody else's tossing and turning in their this this phone application doesn't know who. Right. So, you know, life sheriff married lifts you're asking how my wife who. You've been petitioning your wife that you get to separate twin bedside. Hey it worked for Lucy and Ricky exactly and they didn't even have apps yet. For them. Yeah. Man, Lucy Lucille ball and Desi arnez never survived to see. Now, I guess not to shame. It is a shame. Who knows what kind of trouble Lucy could have gotten herself into the now God, so many she'd like order too much Gandhi, reckless keep coming to eat all this candy. Imagine a. Oh. Crush. Oh, all the coming down. The gig get a CBS all access on the phone rebooting. I love Lucy fire up the for. The computer generated imagery computers. Yeah. Because we're gonna need the Morgan overtime, but Lucy Lucy NFL need to play candy crush baby. All right, Tim well enough of me. I'm the one who end up revealing too much about my personal. Yeah. Segment. That's what happens when you talked to me. Yeah. And they turned it around on you like the Ridler. That's not really what like the Ridler snow on the Ridler. You try to you think you're asking him or Ridler a riddle and he tricks you into answering a riddle of your own. No, that's not. That's not the way you were alleghenies. I mean, like sometimes Batman we'll ask the Ridler riddle after the retailers asked him riddle. And it'll be like kinda what like what's gonna know? Sometimes you'll be like a way to get the Ridler distracted because you know, the Ridler wants to. Yeah. He thinks he's smartest guy. He wants to solve all the riddles. Yeah. Well, that's not what we're talking about. You know, Tim, we're talking about where we talk. What's that the title? We settled on writing writing. Yes, Tim, you might not know this. But I'm a writer. I've heard. Yeah. You wrote a book one time, Tim I've written for ten technically four maybe five bucks one time each though. That's true. Yeah. That's what I meant. Yeah. Someone like me, I'm writing a book day. Oh, wow. That's that's a now you talking painful, it's or you talking book. No, no, no, no full every day. I write the book is what I say too. It's popular. It's a popular song. Tom every day. I write the book a new song know, what song is it Elvis Costello's? Oh. No good song. What's the name of it? Every day. I write the book. Oh. Remember, no, Tim. I've never actually read a book, Tom. I'm not sure if you know this about me, I I. No. So I just wrote and put out my fourth book, I say fourth or fifth because there is a novella right to which is people Novello. No, none of these books are Roddick, Tim. They're all for young adults is they're all kind of like pick up artist books. They're all books bad to pick up widowers had at at. Yeah. Had a different places where people go birding. No, tim. We didn't episode like a while ago. When I put out my first book about writing a year ago, at least it was like five or six years ago half years ago. Okay. Okay. Yes, you're right. He said at least a year we did that. And people went crazy for people loved it. They've been demanding an updated version is that was just kind of what did, you know about writing books at that time. You'll know you only you read written one, I knew Jack shit. I don't think and I think when the yeah. No that came out when the book came out or maybe right before the book came out. Yeah. You were using it as a promotional device. Yeah. Yeah. What's the name of your new book Omni's fall? Tim Omni's fall. It's in the same series. All the books. I've written are in a series. Okay. A series of books a series of books called metal gear solid or you wish you love metal gear solid. I loved loved it. You know, you can keep up on metal gear solid. No one's enough. For me. I have a new I have middle gear salad video game. And it was a series of games. I guess. Games. I guess they got up to five at least metal gear sm- liquid. Metal gear liquid snake? Metal gear plasma. I may on of you're making a joke. But like there was liquid snake? Yeah. No. I'm not making a joke. I would have been funny. There are other ones out. There is a gas on you know, playing right. So anyway. My new thing. No sequels. I'm not seeing any sequels. I'm not reading any sequels except for your book. Mostly movies with the sequels. So we I saw the movie us this weekend. No spoilers, Tom USA. Also, we saw the same showing? Yeah. And there are people like oh, man. Could you imagine? What a sequel would be like really just, hey, how about you? Enjoy the movie as is. Yeah. If he was anyone makeup one in your head talk about it with your friends do a role playing version of ano-. I could see though like I mean, Jordan peels been around long enough that like I'm sure whatever contract he had to like make this movie. It was like own. You can't make another one without my. Okay. Yeah. But otherwise, I could see that it would be like a purred situation of like, oh, this is popular. There's gonna be another one next year and the year after year after you're talking about the actual purge. Not. The movies. No the movies. But happening his yearly. Yeah. Because they were like they were gonna try a once in this great. Did you see the movie the first purge? I haven't seen any of the purge movies. I saw the first purge movie. Not. The first one that came out yet the purge. It was good. Not the third one. I think which was called the first perjure or maybe the fourth one. Yeah. I think it was the fourth one. Yeah. But I mean, that's what they do in horror movies like something works like, especially if it's like a new idea think purges purge it again. No. But like so like the per the purge Saul were it's like a pretty simple idea. Like saw was basically like people wake up in there in like a torture room, and they have to get out that try and get out of the torture room. Right. I've never seen any of the saw movies either. But like, those are ideas are easily repeatable and us kind of would be like, it wouldn't be good. But you could see how like oh. They know spoilers. Yeah. They do this again. Yeah. With different characters. We're talking about your book, Tom knees revenge. No, I'm he's fall. Not tim. I don't know. Why even sponsored this episode? If you're not even gonna say the name last expunge con radio. Yeah. Sponsored content. No. But I'm not talking about like the books themselves, Tim. I'm here to talk about not the craft. I guess but the craft a little bit about writing. Balk in the movie the craft. No, I don't think I've really even seen the craft either. Tom. I seen a lot of movies. I know 'cause they're they don't have superheroes in here. Not interesting. I mean, which is can be superheroes. Sometimes name one superhero which scarlet witch. Name five superhero, which is five be tough maimed to don't doesn't matter yet. There's definitely another one that I can't think of we're here to talk about the process of writing. Yeah. Tim. And I would know about this journal sometimes Woody right in your journey. I don't actually really I have one of those five year journals, Tom. Yeah. Where you're supposed to write like a little bit of day for five years for. Yeah. Like, and then like eight it's have I talked about this, right? Date every page is date. And then it's wife, and then it's five sections date with a book. Tom. Sorry. Breaking my marriage on the podcast. She doesn't listen. It's not gonna work and only you see your imprison anymore after the crap you pulled. So any of the five year? I never remembered a write in it. Yeah. Bad at it. So no, I don't really right. I write emails, but not really both of the time. He owned respond to my emails respond to a lot. I don't respond to personally mouse, professionally males. I'll respond. Yeah. I'll say this. So I'm gonna I wanna to talk a little bit because people so people ask me you're going to say that they don't. But they do ask me for like advice all the time. Okay. About what about everything man everything under? Hey, what's the best way to wake up? Well, did you tell them about the Phillips alarm clock? Yeah. Or if you have access to real birds, get those. Yeah. Because Al help you out sometime. Sleepover you into sleeping in my sleep in my I'll sleep on the couch, but you'll wake tell me what time is the alarm for. You'll be really impressed with without nicely. This alarm wakes up. Very specific type of creeped Reynolds. I'll preface any advice I gave with this. I do not think I am good writer. No. And I'm not saying that for sympathy. I'm saying that. And actually, I heard recently somebody say this. Yes, actually. Yeah. I did recently read a review that set as much. No. But like sorry about that. Looked him. You're Binion's around. No. But like there's some quote from some famous person whoever were they were like like, the only people who think they're good writers are bad writers. Yeah. But I don't think that applies to me. I'm just saying this. I'm not proclaiming myself to be an expert on us at all. But I've done it. So I can tell you suck it, right? No. No, no. I'm saying, dammit. Dammit. Teachers for high school said I'd never amount to anything. No. You know, what an actually like I've heard that. Critique not critique like I've heard of other authors who are like. Yeah. My English teacher told me this and that and I'm like where they really that mean or were they trying to just give you like feedback. Right. Like, I think that that that kind of stuff. So we're like I don't have any like. Oh, yeah. This person. Like, I'm not writing books to show anybody. Like. To win. My friendship writing them to win my friend. Oh, I'm writing them the wind. I'm saying I'm not writing them as a form of revenge against anybody. That's not something that. Makes a lot of sense. I mean, I feel like you are primarily motivated by right? No ex- if I was motivated by spite be writing books quicker. What are you motivated by shame? That's what I mostly motivated by. I'm crippled by shame. Yeah. But it's it's it's it's two sides of the same. Choline right. Yeah. Yeah. I guess maybe. I don't know what motivates me she guilt and shame really. Gilpin hinder and and motivate them shame. Motivate me, not to do things every ten minutes or so, but yeah. But then also it's. If you ever get anything done. It's because like man if I don't do this. I'm going to be shamed. Yeah. No seriously. There's a deadline or there in like, you know, like if like, I don't know a big project at work or you like turning in your draft here editors then right? It's like. You can miss those deadlines right here. Get thrown in jail in the consequences. Just somebody's gonna like be like, blah. And you're gonna like you're gonna feel shame right? I would rather be thrown in jail. I would rather be thrown in jail. Then somebody would be like, so I will. So I didn't do this. Hey, I'm already going to jail. You're not allowed to say that as a whole as a whole agreement here. I go to jail, and you say this to me. Thirty days not thirty days. I don't wanna I don't wanna go to jail. Oh, really gonna push ups mood you. I don't think would because I think he'd be like other other prisoners or watch me do pushups, and they they're gonna know him like not doing them. Right. Maybe they'll give constructive criticism. That's what prisoners are no. Yeah. I guess you're right. Hey, keep your knees straight. Don't bend your knees. When you do from across the cell block. I have to do the ones where you put your knees on the ground, and you basically just do the motions your arching your back to work. I know it's tough I'll work up to the proper form. No. But I would say Tim Tom's Tom's tip. Number one. Nice. I mean, it wouldn't have been my first tip. But it came up naturally. So now, it is go to jail. I look jails horrible. I like I never ever want to go to jail. However. When you get a lot done in jail you eating and stuff. Yeah. But guess what? But EVS jail. It's no trade-off for they've for. Sure. No. I disagree with your premise because you and I have a lot of free time. That's true. Yeah. Pretend like we don't. Yeah. Because there are so many managing her. Yeah. Tip. Number two. However, even say what tip number one is moving quicker than yet. Chip number ones. Go to jail. No tip number one deadlines. Deadlines are very motivating factor in writing, okay? Silt impose deadlines yet. But they have to be accountable to somebody else. Yeah. Who are you accountable too? So like, I dug doesn't count. Now, my dog she injured ever. Finished three chapters by Friday promised bite me. No. I mean, you need self imposed deadlines because like you can't bother people to with like make sure I write this many words every day. So. Hit me stabby. No. I mean, we already said shames and motivating shame me pants me pants in public. Yeah. No. So self movie deadline self-motivated like x amount of words day are really good, and you can kinda rely somewhat on shame to get those going, especially like once you do it a few times and you like don't don't break. We still do this show. One hundred percent. Doing it every week for like ten years. Yeah. We can't break the streak. Shame gonna be the the week that we don't deliver. But. Outside of that. So I guess is like another caveat. I am an indie author cool like pavement like pay the pavement. Are you like the duster of of Gus -ter or duster duster duster? Yeah. You wouldn't independent. Okay. So I'm in India -ther writing, which means I do not publish through a publishing house. I have published some of my audiobooks to republishing house Random House, not rain, Tim. That's only house. Yeah. Bantam? Books. Yeah. That's another publishing part of Random House. I had there is something there is it possible that I had a poster on my wall of a book when I was a kid, maybe, but it said. Claim you had a bantam books post her no on the bottom. It said bantam books, and I remember 'cause like the bottom of the poster was like kind of near my head where. Go to sleep. I was really little and I remember thinking. Switch to letters right there. You got Batman? Yeah. I mean, you gotta Batman poster. If that's what you wanted. Sure. Happy butchers kid. About batman? That's. Why not? The last thing we need a kid with a thirst for vengeance. Vigilante streak when I was a kid I had pacman sheets. Nice cheats, and they I guess pacmans tissue or frayed of the character. Yeah. He's afraid of being sued. He's afraid of being sued or no, he's he's one other people. So for whatever reason this had like a trademark symbol next to every individual character goes the pellets everything, but so it's a TM. And as a kid I was like oh short for Tom, which is mine, which is why these are like I think I thought they were like personalized like embroidered. Nice. What do you call that monogrammed? Right. That doesn't make sense. Yeah. But I didn't know as a kid. Yeah. We were dumb kid. I don't. Probably even knew I had a last name or what it was. Yeah. Well, it would certainly didn't begin with him now. Anyway, what was I saying pose dead? Headlines. Oh, I was saying so I'm indie published so like everything's up to me. So I have to hire editors and proofreaders and stuff, but that winds up being a very motivating deadline because when you're hiring these people like you can't hire. Maybe like, I'm all done. Here's my work like and get that back to me in a couple of weeks, like a the these people are booked kind of have to like figure out ahead of time. Like, okay, I'm gonna I think I'm going to be done by this point. So let me book somebody now knowing it's going to take prior like lease like a month or to get a free opening. And you can do it where you're like. No. I'll be completely done before. I even do that. But then it's like well now, I'm just sitting on this. So that winds up being a good? I still will not do it until I have a first draft done. Then I'll reach out to my editor to defend your editors you procr- to them. They're not a sponsor this week. I told you I sponsored this week. All right. That's why it's sponsored content. Where do you find your editor from the meta series of books from I go to Amazon dot com, and I searched meta Tom Reynolds. That's where I find them. Are you going to change your name to meta Renos? No. Why would I need to? Worked for Metta world peace. That's true. Did it worked for him though? Yeah. Everybody forgot that. He like choked somebody onto but we have world peace one could argue. Yes. I mean, it's the most peaceful time of any time in history people always forget that. Well. Tom. So deadlines. That's a big one owes the second thing that that came up. He did that you're in India -ther. No, no, no. You said something I said that's tip. Number two. You don't have these tips real. I told you Tim to tips are coming out and in right these tips. No, I have things to talk about I have other questions for you. All right now, what the hell was tip. Number two. Maybe this will jog you. Question number one. Oh, you you prepared questions. Yeah. Where do you get your ideas? Boy, Tim, I'm glad you ass. I dunno man. Okay. Question. Number two. Actually, I will say this. I can give actual vice for this take notes like, and this goes for any kind of creative thing if you're going to have a list of tips that you want to give people on right? Right. It out. So you're not going. What was number two what we were talking about when I thought because the tips the tips come faster than mind works a human pencil than a human hand can maneuver pencil. Some sometimes it feels that way. No. But I would say taking notes is real important, and like whatever works for you if taking handwritten notes through sometimes I do that. Sometimes I get like real into handwritten notes sometimes I use apps. Applications applications, I've used Evernote IV's one note, I currently use bear I've used you. Liz, why do you switch note taking f so often because I think I'm an idiot that only thinks like that constantly thinks like the problem is the wrong app. Like, let me switch apps. I mean, and honestly though that does kinda work sometimes there's a new app that's like well now I have an excuse to try this out. Let me take some notes, but I've been using a us you lists for a while now use bear, and they're both very similar just like real, no frills note, taking apps Seagate, your ideas from the apps, you're saying, yeah. The apps, they'll just give me ideas. Sometimes like my next books about a bear the one before that was Ulysses, I can't believe you lose to the revenge. Dj? This doesn't apply to you. My second question, but how do people write books so quickly? Look, I can sometimes write books quickly. It took a long time between the last book in this book, which is the thinking. The switching of note taking. Yeah. I mean, honestly was just waiting for the notes to migrate from one app to another. No, I had a ton of false starts on different different ideas, different books. Which I'll get to to avoid doing that in a moment. Okay. Have you ever met Michael Crichton? Tim. Those all your questions. Yeah. Had one more. I don't know yet. The last one is your book some kind of pick up artists books, and we've talked about that. Yeah. No. They're not. I kind of I don't know if I do or not I was gonna say I kinda regret sometimes not writing under a non plume. Why I don't know just like gives you flexibility like you can still do it. No. I mean, I can't I can with different books saying the next book in the medicine who by different guy, that'd be fun. If it was like like, but I wrote the forward, and I was like I had this guy. Right. Yeah. Hey, m people tricking to what end. Because people might be like, hey, you know, you'd be like I see the difference in style. People would say that. What would I gain from you'd be like idiots? That's what I liked doing like my reader. And read my book. Do you hate the library? Tom. A lot of authors hate the library is true because it cuts into sales. No. I haven't found that to be the case. So again because I'm Indy. I have a weird situation. I actually need to there's another thing I need to I'm gonna get in even banned from a lot of libraries, not your books, but you as a person get too much into technicalities. But there's a way that I can make my books available through a different the physical books, but the majority of books, I sell our electronic books e books. Boop. Boop. Boop. Boop. The red on Kimble's the red in different apps. Gatien's? But there are you just saw my new paperback. Yeah earlier. So there are paperback. Sue the cover was a little waxy. I liked it. I mean, that's surf wax sex Y. Oh nice. Yeah. I put that on my self. With of your hands. Yeah. Nice. No. But there's so there's like another distributor that I can put my books through that keep meaning to go through all that. Because. More places will carry my books. If I go through that distributor right now. It's like pretty much everything ceramahs on and understandably allow bookstores don't want to carry them like if you go to a bookstore. I want this book like they can order it. But they'll pry awesome. Like. But if I put through so. You mean like like, oh, it's through Amazon Amazon. Yeah. But I can do it through another distributor that. We'll get into more bookstores and stuff like that. But my book is in like samba libraries around the country because if you go into a library. Here's the thing. People don't know about libraries going to library. They don't have a book you want you tell them. Hey, I want this book they'll order. They're legally obligated not legally obligated, but like they wanna buy books that people want. I'm not saying this as all like go to your library and tell them. No, what are my books. I'm just saying it as Leo they don't have a book you want. Demand unless it's like, you know, they don't have the book because it's you know, like, the cookbook or something here smut, you don't have the new penthouse. I demand it. And now we only have penthouse forum because it's literary but there. Yes. So my books in libraries, I liked library sim IB thrilled of my book were in more libraries, teaching Americans. He'd be. Back in libraries. You can get my e book through a lot of library C, which is another thing. People don't know about e books from libraries I-, I- borderline abuse, the book lending from my library borough ear, you reselling these books. No, I'm just I so many so many of them. Yeah. It's great. There's a lot of can get a book and read it from your couch for free. Yeah. Not even moving. Oh, yeah. And you can do it on like your kindle or it's the same exact. The book. Same words, I'm reading a book right now on my kindle from the library. Because like I saw I saw Amazon, and it was like twelve bucks spend twelve bucks, go library. They have it. Yeah. And then it brings me back to them is on page. And it's like here you go. Here's a book for free. You get it for like a couple of weeks. But hey, guess what? I'm going to read it. In a couple of weeks. And then what happens you throw the kindle out by new one? Take it. Oh, okay. Yeah. Or yet to or you can bring it to the library. Tom. This isn't about the process, you gotta talk more about the process, you write a book. All right. So notes are big thing. You gotta keep notes of any random ideas. But then outlining I'm big on outlining their two types of writers. Plotters and Panthers Panthers. Hanser 's people who are writing by the seed with their pants. No, my my high school bully was Pancer. But in a different way. Well, and he's a. And she's a very well-known romance author now. Who writes by the see of her pants? Yeah. When you when you found out that it was a woman, the female was bullying, you had to change it to a romance, author knows gonna be a romance off the regardless I know women right things other than romanced him and men, right? Romance too. Yeah. Yeah. All of them perverts. Well, now, you're the one who's what anybody writes rolling pervert. That's fine. That's fine. That is fine. It was you're the one to blame for for Suming. If a woman's a writer, she writes romance. Yeah. So by your logic is sue mall women are perverts. That's what you're proud perverts. Right. Sorry, go on. So auditors Panthers Europe Lotter. Yes. And like people they can right by the their pants more power to them. Like, I feel like that has a lot of rewriting involved a lot more rewriting if you're going by the year pants. I gotta. And I should tie that back to this. So should this back. Well, and that's the thing. Some people are Panthers. Like that is how they do it like some people are like purely like, you know, the here's my first draft is done a lot of time. So this people they kinda brag about that. But the truth is like they're going back as they're rewriting like, it's not literally like, here's one long sheet. It's like, yeah. The next day. I went and looked at like the last two chapters, and like cleaned up a few things, and then broke the nice one. Whenever you meet a Panter. Do they ever go? Read you read my manuscript in the new Gallagher's that's not writing my boy that's typing. No. I don't think I have you ever said that no two Panzer. No, okay. I was just wondering. No, like, I said, I'm jealous of people that can do it. I can't do it. Some people say this writing. It's taping. Is that firm something that this just what people say subtypes? So I would say a strong outline. And is the thing that I'm not always great at like, I'm trying to get better at that. Like, all right and outline Albay. This is great. This is perfect. Everything makes sense everything aligns up time to write the book, and then like pretty soon into the book back. Oh, I should change this which is fine. You should feel free to change things. But. I find it more helpful to go back to the outline change the outline and kind of look at like, all right? Did that change anything else here? Right. But at least for me an outline is nice to have. It's a nice thing to write out figure out your story. And then write your story. Do you have a list of characters also? Do you have like a bible? No, I should do that though. I keep meaning to keep meaning to be better at that. I mean, like, my main the main characters my series, like, I know them pretty much inside out. So I don't get things screwed up with them. But external character like peripheral characters, I should I could get better at like keeping track of things about them. Yeah. You should just use characters from other books or movies will Tim that's fan fiction. And that is a thing that people do that. It's people shit on fan fiction. And look a lot fan fiction deserves to be shit on. But for somebody starting out like what a great because like the characters are set. And that's the hardest part of writing coming up with compelling characters. I have a series of books were don's oh is a homicide detective. If that were true that the great I would read that thinking about it. Now, I think. Joke. Oh, that'd be really cool actually trying to come up with the coolest fan fiction. I think of would you write it and then afterwards pull of fifty shades of grey and just do like a character name and replace in like everybody would know it's gone. But you'd be like, oh, this is bonds. Oh, yeah. I'd probably name it something other than Bonzo the Jim Henson or Disney at this point. Would would be like they're not very litigious. I've heard. Yeah. It's true. And instead of like having a thing for chickens, you'd have a thing for like geese or something. Yeah. Well, I can't abide that. Yeah. That's nobody likes. Yeah. Except for maybe some of the lady to trick. No, tim. It's always small birds. I tell song. Songbirds? Oh, see you till old ladies. Yeah. That you have of small songbirds in your apartment. Yeah. But it's laid out there sleep. Yeah. Okay. By the time they come over. Notes. I hate to say this. But are these women like these elderly women they all their wits about them? A lot of times they can't see all that. Well, I can tell them like the birds are over there, but they're sleeping, and like, they're, you know, they just kind of go see them, and I know the tragic. That makes me feel very sad. Look the hear the birds in the morning, and that's all that matters. Software, soft where? Yeah, I write in a program called Scrivner. That's great. Yeah. You convinced me to buy this program. Even though I don't right. Yeah. That's out greatest. Yeah. Good. It's for MAC and PC. That's the program. I'd recommend are they also sponsoring the podcast know bleep that out. Yeah. Bleep bleep that out and put in the name of my series. So then people are like, well, he writes, he writes, using the rights all I guess off to buy those. Oh. And then. Yeah. Here's the final thing. Tip the final Tom's tip. Like yet. Maybe like tips unit really thought out these these tips. So no because here's the thing to like my writing routines, change concerts. Limit ask you something. Yeah. What do you do during the day? So here's my I go to work every day. Yeah. Bus my ass down at the quarry, right? Yours like, oh, I'm just gonna look don't worry about what I do. I'm just gonna. Chantel light and birdsong and then escape into a land of fantasy imagination. Yeah. Must be nice. Last book came out when three years ago. No, this one came out it came out the past week, God damnit, Tim. That's why they're sponsoring before before that. There wasn't ovelall. But yet the last one was the dick. So I wanna know even doing a false starts wall. So during that time, actually like I was working on other books that like at one of them actually did get finish it sucks like outside the series completely separate can I read it? I don't even know where it is. I computers. I mean, it's like, I didn't believe it. I would never delete it. But I don't think it has an ending. Oh, maybe I'll find it. TV like literally unreadable see it was written in wing dings. That's hey, somebody's working on or has. Hey, somebody's wingding is another man's English. Is somebody's doing a in a mo- g novel, right? There are a mo- g like add not aim more at thank you is like, you know, when a mode I came there was a Moby Dick that was like a movie, right? Yeah. I didn't like that. I think people are like, oh, that's clever. Oh, do you. Your want me to buy it not going to buy it. That's that's a funny chuckle, plus the ink, you know, the print that in color. I thought you're going to play those may wailing. Oh, well, that's that's something to consider their fry Moby Dick Moby Dick novels written in wailing printed in wailing swelling giving right? Maybe the squids. Maybe you think they ever did? In addition of Moby, Dick as Scrimshaw gap. Probably there's like a bag of Scrimshaw somewhere that long. Like a room of Scrimshaw, probably in nice, Tim wanna thank you for bringing up. Another one my tips, which is routine. Yes, you have to get into a constant routine with writing. Now, I'm not always good at this thanked me for bringing up your routine by asking what do you do? I don't think you do anything. So what I do do. Is I work out of a writing space? I have a it's not a private space, but it's like a co working space. But it's only for writers. See you have somewhere to go every day. I have somewhere to go every way every day. You have to get dressed. I have to get dressed. Yeah. Like, I'm not. And again, I'm jealous to these people. But there are some people. They're like, oh, I, you know, working pajamas all day if I do that for even like half a day. I feel worthless. I it doesn't make me feel comfortable. I don't like it. So I like getting dressed brush my teeth going to the bathroom most people should brush your teeth and go to the mill these people lot of stayed home writers. They don't even go to the bathroom brush their teeth. Wow. Yeah. Well, that's impressive to be honest. Yeah. They don't have the bathroom. Yeah. No. But so well before I had this rider space. I went to the library, which is why despite your best efforts. I can't make final library, Tim. I can't hate it. I love the library. It's a great people. Always forget like that's a great place to go work for free. Like people hanging in my library. Can do like the atmosphere isn't conducive to writing novels put headphones on it's fine. But like the people that are like we're gonna coffee places can get expensive because you have to buy coffees. If that's you then go library. That's what I did. Yeah. But I, but I work at a co working space in Manhattan. That's only for writers, which means in the writing space itself. There's no talking. No eating nothing. Nothing that you can't make noise. So it's always quite which is nice. So I go there every day. And there's nothing else there except for what I bring with me at my desk. So it's like, you know. Granola bars girdle bars. Viggo a boombox, no I often I don't do like I don't do that much anymore. But there was a phase that I was getting rockstar, energy drinks. What ya and I would always be barris bringing them into right? I'm in Paris at the writing space all time anyway because there are actually like really like not gonna make. Michael crichton? But there are like some well known like literary figures that work at glad. Well, no. James patterson? No OJ Simpson. The only wrote that one book did you go write that book, Tom if I did it. Yeah. No. I've never go through it in anything. I'm writing something you're gonna know about unless I use pen names. Yes. I might. Really wish you did. Right. Still probably promoted on this show. But it's nice to to go to a place that separate from your home to right? I feel that that helps me focus. Oh that was tip number to focus. Eliminating distractions is also key find a way to eliminate distractions use app called freedom. What is this? It's on my phone. My computer, you said a time it can be anything from like a minute to multiple hours, and then it to five minutes, and it to be honest. I usually use twenty five minutes it turns off the internet on. But not just on the device, you're using because you register all your devices turns them off on everything, but you could get it back on. No, even if you like restart your computer, you can't get it back. Surely, you can no. I mean, there's an emergency, right? No. No. I mean, maybe there's like a hack way to do it. But like whatever the way if there is a way to do that it's difficult enough that. Yeah. I mean, I guess you like uninstalled the software, right? Odors to that. So they put enough roadblocks that you really have to do it. But it's great because it turns everything off, and then you can just be like, all right. Well. I got nothing else to do sometimes take so long to respond to my slack messages. Yeah. No, it is sometimes because I'm getting them because I'm. Off the grid freedom. Yeah. I mean, those twenty five minutes that you do that. Those chunks are probably the the least connected you've ever been in the last year's absolutely not twenty your. Yeah. Freedoms great. I mean, if you have enough self control, like just turn off, your wifi or whatever. But the this is better ever do that at the ratings face. No. Because everything I write is saved to dropbox and I get nervous. So you can like have having. Did it have exclusions where it's like, oh dropbox is fine. Because I can't like go dick around on dropbox to kill time. But like I want what I'm writing saved in just in case. Like, I'm crazy about that kind of stuff too like having multiple backups. And also music. I enjoy listening to soundtracks give video game soundtracks game. Soundtracks. I listened to cyberpunk songs. What cyberpunk? Why would you listen? What is cyber punk? Oh, like not cyberpunk like since wave. What synthesize? It's likely she'll chill wave is. Yeah. It's kind of like chill wave but with more synthesizers like cyber punky. Punk. Blade runner. John, right, right. But I like listening to that's up. Although sometimes I listen to just like white noise. I it's crazy. I can't listen to Lear IX things with lyrics. Really? I can't if it's like songs, I know well enough that like I'm not process, but but otherwise I have to listen to things that don't have words. So I can come up with the words myself real weird Smith. And d of any other tips. Those are the only tips, Tom, I just want to tell you you started this out by saying, you don't think you're good writer, and I don't think I properly said, Tom, I think you're good writer. I like your books him. That's all I wanted. You. We didn't do this for the last hour. We gets off doing the show. I can stop right in these. Oh my God. Provable whole time, Tom. What's your favorite word? I don't have a favor word, Tom tear least favorite word. Oh, I see. It's like the the actors workshop. I'm not an actor Tim team. You obviously have been paying attention. Turns you on. Oh that question turns you off what sound deal know? What sandy what sound do you hate? Carl arms, and it's real original. What's your favorite curse word? I don't really like Chris words, what profession other than yours? Would you like to attempt? Burder burder. Tom if heaven exists would you like to hear God's say? Would you arrive at the pearly gates this guy? That's what I want to hear too. You made it if God's greeting you. That's that's a good sign. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Not just Saint Peter nature de comes out from the kitchen. Yeah. He's in the kitchen making the people in. Yeah. I got some new people I'm cooking up. But you know, I heard that you were coming slash batches. But a real assholes last batches Lulu undercooked. Yeah. Tom. Yeah. Thank you for this insight to your writing process, and I've been inspired to write a book of my own about defective gonzo. Yeah. Do you wanna solve a problem or no time? We don't have time for that. But we have a good one for next week. So tune in next week as we Selva programmatic and cl-. I guess it's not a conclusion just another thing. Oh. Yeah. I'll do all the plugs. You liked the show at TC G T dot com to find out more. You can follow us on Facebook. 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We just finished lower the fly. We wrapped that up and starting next week. We're reading the outsiders. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Official announcement the outsiders. Yeah. Book and this week's episode the one that is already out at this point is Tim watch lower the flies the movie and implant how it compares to the book. Hey, our book, spare the movies? Find out patriot dot com slash complete guide. What do you do you phone books movies are better than books, right? I don't know actually. Yeah. That's a weird thing. I'll say this too about being all right to two questions. I hate as an author. One is. Hey, are they gonna make a movie out of your book? Right. What do you say that? Yes. Yes. They are are they know. Okay. I mean, it would be neat. But it's also like. I don't know that I was gonna say, maybe I'm too sensitive. I m too sensitive. I was gonna say it's a little bit insulting of like. Oh, it's only like books. Get enough for you like a books not good unless they make a movie out of it. I don't even think that's insulting. I think like, I know people need something to say the other weird thing that I don't like, oh, both these things made me sound like huge Astle. Is when if somebody asked what I do. And I say, I'm an author. Sometimes the immediate next question is oh anything I've read and like that question always comes from people who aren't big readers catcher in the ri-. See if they know mill it's just like a weird like anytime, I've been like, oh, like, of course, not probably. Like, a polite thing this thing. Yeah. That's the thing is, and that's why said I I'm going to sound like a huge asshole saying this by that habit. So many times were like a Mike. Oh, no, probably not. Are you a big reader in the they're always like, oh, no? I haven't read a book here. So it's always like oh. So when you ask like anything, I've read it's like three books you were thinking. Like short list of books that you've ever read. And I'll tell you if I wrote any of them. Yeah. And also like so the difference is anybody that his ass that and I've told them I'm an author and there's somebody who's like voracious reader. They never ask anything. I've read it's always people that don't read that much that ask anything pull your head out of your jerks and read more books, and then you can ask them that question. I've had like people that are like insane. Like people I read like two hundred bucks a year. And they'll never be and odds are they might have read one of my books, but I've actually had that happened with people who are veracious readers. And then when I've told them what my books about. They're like, oh, I've read that. Yeah. So like that. Hey, Tom, don't ask. Oh, I've read that didn't care for it. Yeah. That's usually the next like. Yeah. Use it as toilet paper. I can't remember what happens in books me. Neither I read a book like three months later. I can tell you one thing about that book. Yeah. Like, I'm always impressed. Like this only happen in movies when characters are like like quoting lines from books for like when somebody quotes a line. And then the other person's like, of course, Dante's inferno. I mean, there are some famous quotes. But when it's like, not a. I mean, maybe like prep schools. Yeah. School. Yeah. Let's do it. We should prepare. See X week. That was a hit them.

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TRR237 01 07 19 - Golden Globes - Bobbleheads - Theme Parks - Eagles

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TRR237 01 07 19 - Golden Globes - Bobbleheads - Theme Parks - Eagles

"Hey, they're Ralph garment here, and thanks so much checking out this free Monday edition of the Ralph report if you like what you hear do me a favor. Subscribe to the Ralph report, so we can put some fun in your ears five days a week. We're not just here on Mondays Tuesday Wednesday Thursday and Friday as well. And you can listen for as little as three dollars a month. So subscribed today. So, you know, miss out on any of the fun. Go to patriotdepot dot com slash the Roth report and sign up. Welcome to the Ralph report with Ralph Garmon. Well, Hello there boys and girls welcomes back to a brand-new week of the Ralph report it's a Monday. I know nothing I can do about that. But we can try to make your Monday a little bit better. With a brand new episode of the row report for a Monday, January seventh. I'm your old podcast bowel. Ralph garments sitting mere feet. Hell I'd say inches inches away. 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What was just awful football? Isn't it? Once she aiding awful football. Yeah. But just terrible doesn't matter because the eagles are still flying. And that's that's unexpected joy on my part. Let's take a look at what's coming up on today's show. We will be hearing today for the first time in twenty nine thousand nine from Mr. banks Lee, he of course, is my power from attractions magazine. He's got the inside scoop on all the stuff that's going on with theme. Parks around the world. Some interesting updates especially over there in Anaheim, California. By the way, have you seen the aerial photos? I've had been to Disneyland last year of seen. You could see the stuff in the park if you're in the parking garage. You can kind of look over and see like the ads and stuff. Yeah. So you can kind of see what's happening. Have you seen the aerial photo of the millennium falcon have aided? I haven't. It's kind of nuts. 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I was talking about the fact that social media can be hard. We were talking about will Poulter young actor who was in the most recent episode of black mirror. Those getting a lot of attention. He was in the maze runner. He's backed off of Twitter because of the shit. He's been taken from people doesn't want to deal with it anymore. And I happen to mention on patriot dot com when you unsubscribe from a podcast like mine, you're able to fill out what they call an exit survey based you before why are you leaving the show because of that asshole whose names in the title is mostly the answer. Anyway, a lot of people reached out about that. And here was one phone call. Hi ralph. Hi, eddie. It's was here. I just heard the part of the show where you talked about those exit surveys, and it broke my fucking heart. I love the two of you so much a love Steve Ashton. I think the show is amazing. I've been a subscriber since the beginning, and there's been some hiccups and changes and. Otherwise, it's just been wonderful. And it breaks my heart that anyone would say anything horrible. So the two of you and to Steve I love him too. So I just wanna give big bubble bath subsea hugs to both of you. And Steve all three of you because you're awesome. And I love you guys and you make my day. Awesome. So fuck the haters, you guys will love you mean it by very very kind. Thanks for these suds e bubble bubbles thug. Although the idea of me and Pence Steve ask same bubble bath. Does not bring me any joy thankfully, Christmas card gover for next. Here's what I think. I need to do though. A lot of people said what did they say? What did they say what it is? I think maybe I need to rip off my buddy, Jimmy Kimmel and do like a mean tweets type. So this week that'd be interesting. Well, a break out some of the mean, exit surveys and read the horrible shit people wrote. I think we should take the power away from them. If you own it, right? Have you say it out loud? I remember when Kevin Smith, and I did a film called yoga hoosiers together. And we went to Sundance with it. And the trashing the we got from the critics Sundance. And then after the fact was so brutal that we did a special Hollywood Babylon where we just read the reviews, and we just rolled around in the mire that was the hatred threats. You gotta do that's what you gotta do. So I say we're going to read some of those exit surveys this week, and we're going to get it out of our system. And then we can all move forward. Hard to believe Eddie. This is the. The third show of twenty nineteen and we've been wrong bunch already. I I've I've known album, I don't even get to the straw conversation. Because we we'll stand by that statement. But on Friday show, it was braille day. It was national braille. And we threw around some facts about braille. And then we didn't even stop there. But to our credit when it came to braille we said, we didn't know whether it was is it, and he said, I don't know like that was the question we put out there and for once we didn't jump to any conclusions. We just left in hanging for those who didn't hear Friday show here is how it went. His braille universal for everyone who's blind or do they have it in different language? I don't know is it in different languages. Excellent. Question is an excellent question, and we just left it there. And in all fairness, we should have put the show on hall looked it up and and clarity held fast. Rawls I know there was a lot of holding. It turns out a lot of people knew more about it than we did. There was a ton of people who read doubt shot. Ed, braille is not a universal language there. Is braille for each individual language when you think about it accent that makes more sense than thinking. That braille is universal in my defense. I rarely think before I speak that is absolutely. I think obvious to everyone listens to this show. But I didn't know the answer either. I said, well, it doesn't make any sense. Because if you're reading Spanish, you would ins meant reading it in American again, I've dumped you down. I so we got a lot of people who volunteered. The information. Saying no dumb. Asses. Braille is not a universal language. In fact, it's not a language at all. It's just a tool to help people who are blind read in their native language, right? Or that may but good on us because we didn't stop. At braille. No, no, we we were dumb enough to to jump disabilities. We went from from vision impaired to hearing impaired. And he goes where we really sunk ourselves. Brea. Sign language is universal. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's it's because I ended with right? And then you feel compelled to agree with sign Languages University. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. It is he said stupidly. Well, I honestly thought sign language is universal. Did you really did? I I didn't even I thought it was based on thinking about it had I stopped to think about language, but you know, they everybody has different fr-, phrases and words for different meanings. Right, right. I mean, so it doesn't make any sense that American sign language, by the way is the name of it American sign language. I've known that was AM L. I wouldn't have made that statement. We got a bunch of phone calls. Hey, rows it Sam. I am so thirty I was listening to the row before I let you know ASL is not universal. It's American timing. Guage? There is a French sign language. Simon guage all over the world American sign language is the most common though, and it is usually the one that's read the most because we have the deck university gala debt in Washington DC. So just a heads up guys. Let him in it. So it's pretty common much like English as a common language, I guess around the world, but I did a little research. There's British sign languages. It's about three hundred different sign languages, even within countries. You'll have different dialects of sign language the way, you have different accents parts of the country. So yeah, yeah. It was not the proper response to eight Ed that are no. It's my bed because I again, I could've stopped the show. I could have I could've thrown it reverse left. The transmission there on the freeway, we could've put gone on hold and you found out the. You are driving. No the buck stops here in just the drunk passed. Right. Take full responsibility for what's going on speaking of driving and passengers let's not go any further before. I forget to talk about your new show the debut. Oh, yeah. Today. Actually, it's called drive. It's a premiered on YouTube. I'll tweet out a bunch of links and stuff I'll put a link on the page around pages. Well, it's a little mini mini web series. We're dropping a new episode every Monday from here until the NFL ury. There you go. So if you wanna watch your vice oh steady Pence act his ass off. You can see Dr D R I V is how it's L because it's sort of a it's a fake rideshare. Or try to different name for it. But it's a it's a little weird slow creep is a little dark. It's not your normal chuckles on a web series a little different range, man. That's a little differs. So thank you. No. Thank you. I don't know why I'm thanking. You're welcome. Again. You're driving driving that more conversation. By the way about something. We talked about on Thursday, which is how people watch their porn still talking about that. We I guess now that I'm getting all these phone calls. I shouldn't be surprised, but I was a little shocked by almost eighty percent of the survey respondents on porn hubs saying they watch their porn on their phone. It just it still seemed to meet not the ideal way to digest teams like the last resort way to watch porn. I would very wrong. Most people watch that way. A lot of people are very defensive about why they watched it that way. This young lady had something to say about it. Into your Friday show. And here you talk about why people watch porn on the phones. I watch porn on my phone because I watch it in bed before I'm about to go to sleep. So it seems like the easiest and most convenient way to watch it and about the guy that watches porn in the shower. You can get shower curtains that put your phone inland. Blake have pockets waterproof pocket. So he might wanna think about that. Thanks have a good one lobbyist minute site. All right to on this phone. Call number one is I can hear girls talk about how they watch own all day long. Anyway, you would just for the best hearing women talk about watching porn. It's just so awesome. As a guy is nothing you like better than here woman. Talk about how much she likes porn. That's so much fun. Secondly, we don't need to encourage this guy. I think he's already got his his system in place so much so. So you're gonna find this hard to believe, and this is the guy who called in. And it was an explicit detailed. Tried to explain to us how he watches porn phone in the shower curtain, it went on to intricate detail, and we still had questions while you'll be happy to know he called back to actually refine his shower time porn habits. So we could actually really understand what's going on. And it's so much worse than we imagine. We thought he was standing up wrapping the phone around the shower curtain. Oh, no, no, not standing up. Oh, Eddie, wait till you hear this guy actually digests born in the shower high row, I called the other days, and I just heard that you played my recording. And I was the I am the one that. Uses the watches point in the shower. Right. So to clarify, I I use your buds. So I only have one in one of your when you have a shower curtain, right? So I turn the shower on and lay down in the bathtub part. Yeah. Laser that. My my head is resting against the wall on the opposite end of the shower the spec, it's I pull the shower curtain, listen or the water doesn't hit the phone or my face. But my netters are being you know, washed away. So once my business is done everything goes right down the drain. I, you know, I do the Washington. And I'm I'm good for the rest of the evening. So said that is some clarification on the. Yeah. Yeah. So hope you're having a great year. So far, I am thanks to this. Well, I've got more information about this guy's masturbation habits than I do on my own. I have a visual. I did not want my head. So what he's doing to recap as he takes the shower curtain any pulls it between the shower and his upper torso. So it's kind of laying across his way sort of like if a woman having a C section has has a barrier between her head and what's happening down there. Right. Like a surgical curtain between his penis and his face. So he can watch the porn on the phone with the ear buds in relatively dry and the shower is just hitting the bottom half of his body. And he can pretend it's someone else's hand. Because he can't see what's happening on their lying down in the tub with the shower the whole thing and the legs up on the edge list on the top don't or fast back. And then we'll get more information about how this guy spanks it. And what's he Lou being with would you want us as? Has gone. Let it go. Eddie, sir. Thank you so much. You're explicit mental picture that you've painted for all of us about what you doing that. He has to have audio. And I think we all understand it now. And let's just let's just say call it a day one last phone call from the garment this young lady has a food related problem. Eddie, and she thought we could be of somehow doubt it I will be interested to hear our responses. Separately about the problem that she is presenting here with her boyfriend. Hey, Ralph any I need your help with food issue. And I think you guys are experts on this topic. Because at a you have weird eating habits and Ralph you at him know about it. So my boyfriend loves orange juice. It's his favorite drink. And he drinks it all the time. And the other day, I may brownies and he started eating them. And instead of being a Cup of milk. He got a Cup of orange juice, and he was drinking orange juice will eating the brownies. It was so gross. I can't believe it. I almost broke up with him right there because that's just disgusting. And I wanted to know what you think am Iran, or is he wrong because I think that was probably the grossest thing I've ever seen. Okay. Can you please? Let me know give me your opinion. Love you mean, it Ellen be with my brownies by Brown. Washing brownies down with orange just her describing it made my mouth water, but my teeth on edge, the concept of washing chocolate brownies down with orange juice and puts my mouth in gear. Yeah. I could not alone. You are not alone. That's not a combo. You don't wanna miss those? I know they have chocolate covered oranges. I understand that. And there's citrus with chocolate this fruit and chocolate combinations that exist in the world seems rough but a brownie washed down with arns is really rough. That sounds repulsive me I have a fairly wide range of tastes acceptance. No break up with him. That's that's really wrong. And I I don't blame him for loving our issues. That's fine. But there's some times where milk is called mills called for even. Yeah. I mean, if there's nothing else to drink maybe water just wash it down aren't use the worst. You seems to see a coke or something even before orange juice. Yeah. Weren't you? Yeah. No Honey, should've broken up with them as what we're saying. Absolutely. Right. So play him this. I was your ex as you're walking out the door just playing in his ear buds while he's lying down in the shower curtain between himself and his payments. I'm I'm guessing you too. All right couple. I don't know. Anyway, that's the calls at the Ralph aboard heartland. You can call me anytime. All right. Let's kick the week off by taking a look at the big counter here that hangs in the bat cave and look at what holidays are celebrated on this day, January seventh not all the holidays are good ones. I've ever. So we will be the arbiters of good holidays when it comes to what? Celebrated today we either will say it's a holiday. It will say it's a holiday. And are ruling is final. It's not. There's no debate. We are the holiday judges. It's a segment we call holiday or holiday, and you know over the holiday break. I played the original raw. Yes. John Cooperman holiday or holiday forgot about without the musical. Backing and a lot of people suggesting we need to reintroduce them. Do we I don't know. I'm thinking about maybe we'll do it tomorrow for now. Here's our intro to holiday or holiday. Please tell me what we celebrate rows. Then. All right. Today's first holiday is national. Thank god. It's Monday day. Wow. Why would you do that? I hate these days that try to take something. Really shitty. That's universally shitty. And we all know it is. And then like, oh, let's be ironic and celebrate it and give it a holiday now. That's not bullshit deal with your anger and just let it it's awful Mondays blow, and we know they blow and there's nothing we can do about it. And we all need to accept in a move on. Let's not try to target up by giving it a holiday, especially stealing one from Friday, by the way. Yeah. Thank god. It's Friday was the original now thank God. It's monday. It's supposed to be celebrated says think about all the good things that happened on Mondays what start off your week with energy Fouzy enthusiasm and excitement for all the things to come Neve work. Now you have to do all week. It's the worst. It's we've all had a good weekend. And now we have to do most of us have to do. What we'd rather not be doing? I'm lucky I get to do this. This is I don't mind doing this is fun. This is fun. I'm I am a lucky, man. My job is fun. But most people go to a job, they don't like or are have to deal with something. They don't want to deal with on a Monday morning, and it's hard unless just let it be hard. And we all accept the only thing about a Mondays there's only one of them, right? So. No. It's also I'm not gonna take it anymore day. That sounds like a month. That's more Monday. Right. But this is another bullshit holiday. It says arrived late for work by putting yourself. I what. When you're fired you can blame the I'm not gonna take it anymore day. People who are is this holiday spent some time buying yourself a present when you should be at the office or the factory don't open any letters that look suspiciously like bills, if you've always been cheerful and polite to people let people know how you really feel be grumpy and non-communicative all day. So I don't I don't understand the heart behind sponsored by like a collection agency like who nothing. Good can come from celebrating. That know what I'm saying responsibilities? It's also rock day. Wait, like, not the rock, not Iraq. Not do you smell. What he's cooking run that racket. Right. Not that kind of rocky. There is just rock day is then Iran, Iraq, celebrate rocks. Today's a good day when young children are encouraged to go out and discover their first pet rock. No, you can you. Can celebrate this day by painting and decorating the faces of rocks gathering together. Attractive pebbles and stones to make inexpensive and original pieces of jewelry, perhaps starchy foods wearing rocks. It's Honey, I got you this rock pendant. You can also spend your time building a rock garden. Some towns and villages around the world hold competitions on this day to find the best decorated rock garden outside that seems like you run out of things to celebrate. Once you look around and say, hey, let's celebrate these things that have been laying on the ground for millions of years. What ray? Wow. This is a shitty. Day. Now, we're getting some real holidays today national bobblehead day. Okay. I got a love bobbleheads. I owned a couple bobbleheads. I got a lot of Batman, Robin bump, are you? Do you do the bobblehead? I did not know this it celebrated on this day every year it the bobblehead is over one hundred and fifty years old. It is it. Yeah. Wow. During the seventeenth century figures of Buddha and other religious figures recalled temple Nodar 's and they were produced in Asia. So it was like the Buddha sitting there, you know, with his big belly and his head bouncing. I was introduced to bobbleheads through baseball baseball. The law was written heads bobblehead to me the first written reference to bobblehead is from a short story from eighteen forty two that references. Somebody's head. Looks like looked like a bobble head they didn't say bobble head. They said look like one of those dollars that you gave me a bobblehead one time. Did I know after how Hollywood Babylon know you got a bunch of crap. Leftover and you do me a Hans solo. You here you want that? And you just throw it. Oh, it's still it's still in my room. I well. That's a pretty nice thing. Then I appreciate it's a treasured possession through that me toss. It at me. Like here you want. This. Did you catch it? I did everybody wins the very first mass produced bobblehead in America was in the nineteen twenties. It was a New York Knicks basketball player bobblehead. So believe it or not the NBA was the first aid boards bobbehead before baseball. But you're right in the sixties, it kind of blew up major league baseball teamed up with the bobblehead in the sixties, and they started putting together a lot of different players which all have the same face, by the way, I was still any money, but like Mickey Mantle Roger mayors Willie Mays different uniforms and ever since then bobbleheads have been a collectible item. Now, I thought it was interesting. They national bobblehead hall of fame will be opening this year that's happening later in two thousand nineteen in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, it will house the world's largest collection of bobbleheads, including a hall of fame. Sexualize Ababba heads, you know, I heard one of the most popular and. Valuable bobble has our beetle bobbleheads really made a collection of four beetle bomb at the height of Beatlemania nineteen sixty four and apparently those are very valuable that'll be there. Anyway, if you're interested, then why wouldn't you be bobblehead hall dot com is the website? If you want to check it out for yourself. And if you plan a trip to Milwaukee, you can check out the Liz pop figures of like taken over the Indus love that to Funke. Go pop started as a bobblehead company. Oh it did. Yeah. In fact, I'm if I'm not mistaken, and I'm sure if I am you will correct me. We'll let you know army. But I believe funk, oh, first bobblehead was a recreation of the Bob's big boy bobblehead that will really back in the day. They did a replica of that. And they started selling them at big boy and did pretty well. And that was the birth of the funk coz the same as what those like those big round eyes. Or did they actually try to make like an actual looking? Bob's big boy. And then now pop seems to be this weird square head with these black. The pop is a is a different as. A an after right after thought that's a second line. Okay. But it was it looked just like the original God's boy bobblehead from the fifties or sixties, I guess so anyway. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. We're going to we're going to let that bobblehead day. Yeah. And you know, I always say the food related holidays for last because people love to wager on whether Eddie Pence will eat something or not and today is no different. Place your wages, please. As we celebrate national Tempera day national Tempera day. The delicious Japanese dish to seafood or vegetables that are battered and deep fried today's national Tempera day. No, more bets. No, more bets. Please Eddie Pence will you or will you not eat Tempera. Yes. Rowdy and becoming a three day today. Let's just fried food. Right. Yeah. But you just fry, but it's got that special batter on their title. Shrimp is good too. Good. Wow. Look at you will have you bet. Yes. Eddie Pence tempore. Congratulations. Oh, come by. Collect your winning groans up go to the cashier's cage regulations. There's a reason to celebrate a Monday, maybe the right after all thank God, it's Monday. And that is today's holidays or holidays Moreira. All right. Take a look at all the entertainment news with a segment. I call the show biz beat once again on Mondays we take a look at the box office receipts to see what people went to see in theaters over the weekend. And congratulations to aqua man for the third week in a row Opperman is the number one film in North America nearing one billion dollars globally. Crazy this weekend. Made an additional thirty million dollars at the box office keeping it at the top of the box office list. Number two was escape room that movie we talked about this week did very well. For it. Self made eighteen million dollars came in at number two. Mary Poppins returns was third with fifteen point seven million dollars. Then Spiderman into the spider verse made thirteen million dollars. That was good enough to make it number four Bumblebee at number five. The mule was six vice was number seven second act was eighth. Brow breaks, the internet was number nine. And Holmes and Watson came in at number ten with just three point four million dollars. I gotta tell you. I think people are getting a little nervous about we'll fail movies. Yeah. They spent a lot of money to make those movies. They're trying to recapture the magic in a by teaming up with Johnny Riley again. And last week I came out of Christmas last week. And it was number seven now dropped zero center tomatoes and climbed up seven percent. I have not seen it will. Fran. I think is very funny. Love this guys together. I probably will still see I saw me. Oh, did you see it? And there was there's legitimate funny moments legitimate like your worst thing say about account. I know, but then there's moments, but there's moments is like why do you do that realize Johnson Riley? If you haven't seen it go see standing Ali. Oh, yeah. About that mazing. He is so good at him and Coogan or so Steve Johnson Reilly starring the legend. Comedy team, laurel and hardy her good thing. I could watch them make a lower on hardy movie where they do actually do they play like like recreate a lorry boot. Yeah. I think it would be amazing. They so that's good to hear. Last night. Of course was the Golden Globes. I'm not a fan of the golden gloves. I think and I've said this before second only to the people's choice awards the Golden Globe, just bullshit. And here's why because it's well known it's well documented that you can buy yourself golden. And there's only think like fifty people who vote on this thing that's easy. The Hollywood Foreign Press association. So these are the people sent to cover Hollywood from different news outlets from all over the world. I think there's literally fifty sixties maybe seventy of them, and it's well documented that if you wine them and dine them and buy them gifts and take them out to dinner. If you schmooze them you can get the award. And what's the point in that? People just want the nomination, and it means something to the general public. Well, it's a great stalemate. Right. Slap it on the ad for your movie I've ever saying Golden Globe nominee or Golden Globe. And then it helps for Oskar. I would imagine. Yeah. Down the line. So I'm not a big fan of this. I know some people are we doing entertainment news show here. So I would be remiss if I didn't at least talk about who won last night. So here are last night's winters from the Golden Globes right now, keep in mind. This is just a recap of the major awards. They do have awards for both television and film, and I don't wanna go onto long, but the best performance by an actress in a television series musical or comedy that went to Rachel Brosnahan. For the marvelous MRs Mazel over there on Amazon best performance by an actor in television series, musical or comedy. Michael Douglas for the Kaminsky method. See I'm talking about best television series musical or comedy that went to the Kaminsky method from net flicks. Best performance by an actress and. A television series drama that went to Sandra oh for killing eve on BBC America. Best performance by an actor in a television series drama. Richard Madden for bodyguard best television series drama, went to the Americans over there on FX, the only supporting acting categories they have are for motion pictures, and that's for any motion picture, either drama comedy or musical best. Actress in a supporting role in any motion picture went to Regina king for if Beale street could talk best actor in supporting role in any motion picture MMA Herschel alley for green book best actor in a motion picture drama Rami Malik for his work as Freddie Mercury in bohemian, rhapsody, best actress and emotion picture drama, Glenn Close for the wife best motion picture drama bohemian rhapsody beat out star is born that was his prize best actress and emotion picture musical or comedy was Livia Coleman for the favourite best actor in motion picture musical or comedy Christian bale for vice can we see that best motion picture music? Comedy was the green book and then the category. I really cared about best motion picture animated that went to Spiderman into the spider verse, which I thought was pretty cool. So there you go those are your major awards from last night's Golden Globes. Speaking of the golden gloves. I didn't know this. But talk about where the money is. Did you know that if you're an actress was a nominee for the Golden Globes you can make somewhere in the neighborhood of two hundred thousand dollars just by walking on the red carpet? Really? Yes. Because the people who design clothes and handbags and make up they make deals with these actresses before the Golden Globe nominations or even announced they start to get an vibe on who's going to be nominated, and they will cut product endorsement deals with these actresses. So you can get fifty thousand dollars for wearing some jewelry. Another fifty thousand dollars for a certain clutch or handbag you're going to carry zainur for a gown might give you one hundred thousand dollars to wear their. Address and just by walking down a red carpet, you can make anywhere between fifty to two hundred thousand how do we get in the show business? Right. How do we become women in show business where popular win awards? Here's the thing. When they talked about it with the people who broker these deals they said like I mentioned they start negotiating before the nominations or even announced sometimes they'll take a bath. They'll think oh this person will be nominated. I'm art. But this deal has already check. And then sometimes on the other side, they do very well from themselves if somebody wins and their picture is everywhere and they're talking to every news outlet. And they said who were you wearing and they it's just great. But this end or someone is cheaper than the trying to shoot a commercial or something. About it's money. Well, spent way cheaper and gets more exposure. But I was blown away by that number two hundred grand just to show up at an award ceremony. Walked down the red carpet. Damn good living. Right there him. I guess guys. Don't really have that. We're suits. Yeah. Maybe make tuck steal anyone's spend in two hundred thousand dollars on you to wear a tux because most guys wearing like one of three designed either Tom Ford or Valentino, or I'm obviously showing my lack of knowledge when it comes to men's fashion rent my tux, down the street or Gregory's tux rental on magnolia. He's probably not on the list, but I was just blown away by that. Hey, Eddie, you'll be happy to hear the Cardi B an offset or back together. I know she's your favorite rapper cardigan backyard against her real name. Of course, she and her husband offset are back together. Again, you know, they split up over towards the end last year people were talking fuck shit, people talk and they're doing fuck shit. I want people to just keep doing fuck shea saying fuck shit showed up on stage. Remember, and she was all right during the concert would really kind of stay sure seemed fake. Well, turns out they're still they're still together. And somehow they managed to patch up their relationship to stay in the news guys to stay in their note dummies at Cardi was quoted as saying last year after their break up in quotes that she did miss his penis. So maybe that's why I got back. I mean, honestly entertainment has become professional wrestling it. You're absolutely all made up stories to stay relevant. Yes, you're at it's all entertainment has become we have crossed line politics, by the way, also everything is K Fave. Now. Everything is professional read. It's unbelievable. Maybe I should go back and listen to that special. You learn. Learn how to navigate through the world with a bit better. And here's somebody who's genuine. She's not K fade. Fehb? May what's K Faye began? It's a fake story line that you pretend his table, so baby fable. I maybe I don't know. I'm a wrestling fan. I don't know. I know what k- phase. But you don't know what it stands for? Okay. Fable? K K fame. It means not doing this. Again, I'm not answering the emails and not listening to the voicemails gonna put you on hold. We're gonna find out what k- fehb means. We'll be right back. Remain on the line. They Representative will assist you shortly. We're back, and we're not any smarter than women. We have some vague idea. Apparently, nobody really knows the true or origin of K fade. But they say it goes back to Carney days when they were trying to pull something over on the the slack jawed yokels who were there at the carnival like the bearded woman. They would use pig Latin pig Latin, and it was kind of a ache Fe K fehb kind of became a derivation of that. It's backwards pig. Latin ready to be some some bullshit. They would put on for the the suckers there at the carnival. That's where in fused in wrestling guy adopted by the rest of them used in wrestling. So there you go and now everywhere now, we know K fehb is life. That's our new shirt. Anyway, who's not K fade was how this whole thing. Started is a Dell love her she's a genuine person, and she's enormously talented and specially in music these days sound like the old man on his front lawn shaking his fist, but your kids today. I don't know real talent. But Adele, she's got the pipes and she can sell a song downs powerful. And she's one of my favorite artists. I'm not necessarily even fan of that kind of music, big ballads and stuff. But you'd have to be a fool not to recognize what a talent you another reason I like her she doesn't seem to be driven that much by the desperate need for love or the desperate need for money. Not that she is lacking for either or tension, right? She's not an attention, which blew me away. Because it looks like she hasn't come out and said it, but all indicators are that she is going to quit touring forever. Because she doesn't like it. How great is that? That's nice. The thing is like she her last tour, I believe she grossed one hundred eighty million dollars. Now, you don't get to keep all that's nothing to pay a lot of people. Maybe maybe only half of that. Oh, maybe she's down to like ninety million the end of that tour, you might have one or two shows a year going to survive. So obviously, she doesn't need the money. But a lot of people, by the way have made a lot of money on tours and the they're still out there grinding look at goddamn, Mick Jagger, for God's sakes. How desperate ver- tension? Is that old great white? So she said she hates it and she likes being home and she's got a kid and maybe more than one. I don't know she likes being at her house. And she said that she just doesn't want to do it and apply to residency in Vegas in a couple years and make trillion the way to go. If you have come to you. Anyway, she has dissolved her touring companies a company called remedy touring L L P that has been dissolved which is the indicator a lot of people are pointing to saying well looks like she won't be back on the road again. Yeah. Which is a bitch for Adele fans because I'm sure you'd love to see more live. Yeah. But she said she's still interested in recording records and things like that. So maybe he'll do that look Streisand. Did it for decades says she stopped touring and later in life. She went back out start doing selected shows a couple. Yeah. Couple of shows here in the air. It's not a tour. I I would imagine the grind of being on the road. And I've I've done it slightly. I did a they called a bus and truck tour of show called the real live Brady bunch back in the day. We traveled all over the country on literally on a tour bus, and we did the show every night in a different city and stuff like that. I was I was much younger. At least you're with people like as a comic I've been on the road for stretches of like three or four weeks at a time just by yourself at a car driving from city to city, I suppose it's different when you're at. Something you have a lot of travel with Davy Jones, the monkeys. That's cool. It was very fun. I'm travel with. No. And I guess a Dell travels really with no one other than handlers herself. She's on stage by herself. So I guess it's different energy. But it's also I think where you are in life, and I had a blast. 'cause I had nothing. I was renting a place. I was on the on a tour bus acting with a bunch of funny. People get loaded every night. That's amazing. That's fun. But I I guess if you've got a kid got a family, and you wanna stay at home and do that. When I got off there. One etiquette. I was like I don't want to this anymore. Yeah. And speaking of having a kid, Brian Dunkel woman is firing back to TMZ. Remember, the original Merican idol host. He was half of the host of the first season of American idol was Ryan Seacrest, and Brian Dunkel crest and Dunkel men quit at the end of the first season did equate I thought he was let go now the the perception was that he was fired but he walked away because he wanted to serious acting career. Oh, good move. Excellent choice on his mart move. Anyway. He's barking back at TMZ because they unearthed some documentation, he's going through a bitter custody battle in divorce right now, and they got a hold of legal paperwork, and his occupation on that paperwork is listed as Uber driver. He's driving an Uber. These days so TMZ outed him about that and kind of job shamed. Him much like that guy from the Cosby show. Remember as so dunk amend is firing back with the following tweet. I chose to stop doing stand up comedy and started driving Uber. So I could be there for my son as much as he needed after our life as we knew it was destroyed. He said manteca fed divorced real bad but much like you said having a kid changed his perspective. And especially in the middle of a divorce. You know, I guess if you're leaving the kid with your wife and your marriage is solid. It's okay to go off and do some dates and then come home. But if if you're only getting custody kit half the time, how can you? Afford to be gone have and in order to make money doing the road, unless you're like a huge name you have to be on the road forty weeks year. So Dunkel men now drives an Uber. And he said he's not embarrassed by there's nothing nothing wrong with it. He's doing it. So we can spend time with his son. He said print that TMZ, and he said separate tweet, and I make over a grand on a good week, motherfuckers. He said why TMZ shaming people working? I don't know. Screw them. Everybody in this business at one time or another usually the majority of their careers is doing something else to make a buck while they're trying to do the thing that they love anyone working to make money and pay their own way. Why would you shame that? That's ridiculous. How how do you start deciding what's good job and with? Yeah. Joe work is work at this point. I got nothing but love for Uber drivers. That's especially in this town driving for a living in Los Angeles. You couldn't pay me enough. So I'm no Dunkeld fan. I think he's a bit of fatuous. But by the way. Walkway from that gig. He had reason and every time you listened to him interviewed he's very full of himself. But at the same time, that's the last thing anyone should be shaming anyone for it. Because they got a job where legitimate job doing something. Yeah. All right. And lastly, my favorite entertainment story probably of the week. I'm guessing maybe the month. Familiar with xfinity xfinity. Comcast xfinity their cable company, as you know, massive cable company, and they have a brand new state of the art voice remote control, the xfinity, X, one voice remote. This is where we are. Now, you don't even need to pick up a remote and flip around anymore. You just talk into the remote. It does awfully Alexa ruined everybody. It does. And it's it's the science fiction time now Star Trek to talk into the computer computers answering you so this will do everything you want you just speak your commands to the cable box. You can fast forward. You can pause from rewind. You can ask tough questions of it. Hey, what's the song on that soundtrack? It'll tell you do the research for you. It'll scour cable guides for specific movies and TV shows. It is the most amazing adventure to hit television since color. They say really, however how it's got one. It's been program. Not accept dirty talk. You can't talk dirty to the remote. Because. It will not deal with that kind of talk. Mr. Oh my God. Because we're America. And we don't go in for that potty language. So we're going like fair night. Four fifty one. Territories has been a problem for folks. Searching for reruns of addicted. Take dick dick won't take take. Either complaining when they tried to find episodes of the Dick Van Dyke show. Remote response. Sorry. I cannot handle command with that type of language at responds to you. So if you're looking for Dick Van Dyke, your screw my God that made me laugh. That's amazing. Xfinity responded. We want to provide our customers with a best in class voice control experience that has also safe and appropriate for every member of the family. So that's the explanation as to why they won't let you talk dirty to your remote control. You can't watch anything, dick. I don't know. I don't know with Tracy Dick Van Dyke Moby, Dick Moby, Dick. I don't know fun with dick, and Jane, what's acceptable. And what's not? But it made me laugh some poor bastard gets his new xfinity they'll set up, and he so pleased, and he wants to click on over to meet TV or wherever Dick Van Dyke running Dyke Show. You can't do it, man. It's awesome. Today's celebrity birthdays, Lauren Cohan of the Walking Dead is thirty seven years old today singer, John drastic of five for fighting is fifty four five or fighting pretty good band. I believe they're Canadian. Why do I say shit? I don't know. I knew that you did that one. I did. That's all my falls on me. They may or may not be Canadian at five or fighting's a hockey term for some reason. I just assumed they were Canadian. What makes the most sense, you know, how the Canadians love their holiday love their hockey. Not got dammit. Hold. Please. Hold. We appreciate your business continue to hold. And we're back and sure enough he's American Elvis born and raised here in Los Angeles larger than life fighting though, it's hockey five for fighting. Maybe he's a kings fan turn out of me for thirty seconds. Here's the thing. You know, what I didn't do knows Canadian obviously because five for five hockey term. And then just go move. I didn't move on. At least I had the wherewithal to source myself. I check myself before I recognize the difference. He created a whole like meaning for five. Well, that's what it's for five for fighting is is it's obviously h the major penalty for fighting in hockey. And so you know, how to walk in my shoes for thirty seconds fun. Anyway, he's fifty four years old today. And they that song superman that was a big hit. Oh, yeah. We just last week talked about another band crash test sites. Slow. Sad songs are people writing out super sad isn't one read the comic, by the way, who has less problems superman super one these got one problem kryptonite right that he's pretty damn ses in pretty good shape. Anyway, here's five for fighting that great band out of Canada. Fly. Just to fun. More than some. Strain b he. Spare superman not easy to be. You doesn't problem? I'd be made for five minutes, superman speaking, superheroes. Jeremy Renner Hawkeye himself from the avengers roading. Now. Forty eight years old today is coming into Ronin. He's forty eight years old actress, Erin gray puck Rogers, buck Rogers in the twenty fifth century. She was Wilma Deering on that show. I had it for her silver spoons, of course, as well. As you mentioned, buck Rogers, dammit, I love that show. That was a great show, Pamela Hensley on it too. She was like the bad girl on that show. She was smoking hot. Plus got killed you raargh. You've got Tweety tweet Wiki tweaking tweedy. It's tweaking. Okay. Okay. Was the yellow brighter? I can see tweaking. I concede g buck meaty Beaty Beatty between. Tweety? Anyway, love that show loved her happy birthday to Wilma Deering from buck, Raj. Remember the beginning. I'll rod when they explained the whole story did of that show it nineteen eighty-seven. Well, why I listen to me listen to William Conrad. The nineteen eighty-seven NASA launches the last of America's deep space. In a freak mishap range of three and its captain, William buck Rogers blown out of that trajectory into an orbit which freezes his life support systems and returns. Buck Rudge's to five hundred Sweden. Yes. The toys and everything love that you all to show, and they put out a the actual version as well with together. Couple episodes from the first season, I think and they released it as a move. I remember going to theaters I don't remember that. I was I had the buck Rogers movie poster on my law. So I know for sure that we always want that gun such great toy on loved it. TV anchor. Katie Couric also celebrates her birthday today. She is sixty two years old actor David Caruso is celebrating a birthday today as well. He is sixty three years old today. Got a start, of course on NYPD blue made a big star one year later he walked head. Got it made him a big star. And got a big head Dunkel -ment anybody document everybody over to my PD blue became said, I'm going to be a movie star. No that did not did not want. And then another fifteen years later. He got another shot at a TV show. And now he's on CSI Miami. That's still a thing. Still thing is it. I don't know. No, Don PA writing that. Does that one doesn't matter? It's not matter. Although we all remember him as Horatio Caine sunglasses off of the sunglasses put them on say, oh, well looks like this lifeguard needed someone to God his life. I'm not that was real one. Not. I just made the editor said so much fun doing that every frigging week. Yeah. I had a friend who worked on that show said is the worst experience really David Crusca would try to direct him in-between takes. He would drink other actors. Yeah. Yeah. The director came up and directed and would walk away. And then Dave crews would pull my friend side. Here's what you need to image guard giving him line readings and stuff yet. Oh, per no never had a good thing said about that. I've never heard a good positive things. And I've got a bunch of friends, of course, I was on NYPD blue off and on for a little bit. And I knew all those people and not wanna hasten had any any thing to say about how do you continue to work when everyone hates you. That's an excellent my mind. That's excellent question. He's been so many hours working with people in this business, and for people not to like you ever the story. I heard was that Caruso failed as a movie actor and that got very humble and then went in a met on CSI. And he said I'm changed man on very different now. And I've learned my lesson. And then as soon as the show took off and became a hit he became the same. So there you go nNcholas cage is fifty five years old today. More of a treasure protecting basis, Kathy. Valentine of the legendary girls group the go Go's. So the rates are sixtieth birthday today. Good. Is that music Oguz still holds up speaking people? No one likes Dustin diamond of saved by the bell. Pre today is forty screech as he was known. Or is it switch states screech? But I could seated Rex Lee from entourage is fifty years old today. He played ARA goals assistant on that show. Loyd. The assistant ever watching episode. You've never watched entourage. Not even like the first season. When it was a thing. Never everybody watched. I know I never watched the and then every episode Ari gold played by Jeremy Piven would get upset at his assistant, and he would scream very funny because he would yell his name continually. Yes. Every episode here. Very dynamic here rent. Nope. Brett Dalton from Marvel's agents of shield celebrates his birthday today. He's thirty six years old played grant ward on that show. All he was a bad, dude. I it was a good, dude. Then he was a bad, dude. And then it got kinda gone to good again. And then he got really bad. You didn't watch Marvel's agent headed. I don't watch TV. Daddy, never watch television. Xfinity one voice remote and find some shows for dick don't look for Dickel look for dick anywhere. And lastly singer Kenny Loggins celebrates his seventy first birthday today. Come on. You cannot shake your ass when that song comes on. That's today. Celebrity birthdays, I'm Ralph garment I walk show bisbee. Now, it's time to talk to our pal banks Lee banks works for attractions magazine, his job. Speaking of jobs you like doing. He's awesome job is just to travel around the world and go to amusement parks, and then write about him. That's what he does. That's his life. How what did he do in a past life to get? This must have been very good. Boy, they rewarded him. Anyway, he's got a bunch of updates about. What's going on in the world of theme? Parks chance to sit down and talk with him. Here is Mr. banks Lee. And now for the first time in the new year, we get to hear all about the news in theme. Parks around the world with our expert from tractions magazine, Mr. banks Lee, how are you, sir? I am great Ralph happy new year. And to you Glenn at a chance to talk today because I know the these theme parks are constantly growing. There's always news on what's happening. I've seen some aerial shots of the new Star Wars area there in Disney, and it looks like the millennium foul. Can is done. And that's kind of exciting is is insane to when you see these aerial shots to see a completed full scale millennium. Falcon just sitting right there. Ready for you to walk up and explore. I just cannot wait for that. What's going on with that land? Do we know yet? Yeah. Well, so it's opening this year. That's the big the great news were in the year of its opening. Disneyland will get it. I on California with a projected summer opening. We're hearing Bob Eiger, actually, my slim at slip that it might be in June. So stop preparing some time in June go galaxy far far away, however here while dizzy Roldan in Orlando, Florida, we have to wait a little longer. We're going to get around late fall. So the construction is at full blast a lot of the attractions from sneak peeks they've released looked to be completed on the inside we've seen already some actual footage of the millennium falcon attraction and guests in their piloting. The falcon we've seen the rise of the resistance track with ride. So they are there in the the home stretch here. I know it's good news for Disney, but I can't. Imagine what the crowds are going to be like on that finally opens. I do not even want to be anywhere near. If anyone's going to be able to get near the park is the crowds, especially Disneyland such a small park itself. I can't imagine what the lions gonna be like just to get into the park. I may not see this attraction to like twenty twenty one. I have a good feeling. Yeah. Well, it's all about the franchises. Now for all these parks LEGO. Now, of course has LEGO land, they're expanding into their movie world too, right? Yeah. So the movie to the second part comes out actually just next month now and here legal in Florida. They are getting ready to open up this spring, the LEGO movie world, so all the characters from the first to Lega movies are together. There's three new rides masters of flight Unity's disco drop and battle of bricks Berg, I love those movies so much so funny. The great family fills to stuffer both adults and kids to enjoy. And seems like these lands are going to be just the same. And of course, Legos had a great relationship with the comic book characters as well. With the massive success of LEGO Batman. Speaking of DC, six flags famously has been their theme park partner for some time. Now are they working on new stuff with DC's? Well, yeah. So every year six legs likes to tout that they have a new attraction opening at every single one of their around the country. And if you that the parks actually will have some DC related rise opening this year. The biggest one is probably going to be a new cyborg dark, right? This is going to go to six flags New England over Massachusetts cyborg, vice guests to star labs to see new technological device. But suddenly cybernetic system called the grid accents the mainframe takes control of the lab and since you on an adventure. So this is gonna be a big DC ride for for that six likes park. And then know the little carnival type rides like at six, Texas. They'll get a joker wild card. It's going to be the tallest and fastest spinning pendulum pendulum ride in the world. So there's all the parks around the country six specifically, there's at least w-. One or two DC play things to do there that all sounds great. But I'm still so jealous of that. Abu Dhabi thing with the Gotham city in the metropolis and all that stuff. Right. I wish we could get some of that caliber, DC wise here six is is a few of the parks, a Justice league attraction, which is pretty on par with some of the great dark rise at dizzying versus does. So be a chance to check out one of those rides. That's that's definitely worth worth it for the kids. I know you mentioned to me before we started chatting that Sesame Street had some news. What's going on with them? Yes. A Sesame Street and SeaWorld have had a long standing relationship for many years now and see rolled Orlando is getting ready to open up this spring their first ever Sesame Street land. This me the very first time that anyone will be able to actually walk writes down Sesame Street. They're building the streets to scale in the park, you're gonna walk through cabbies guarding. You'll get to go by big bird's nest. Visit Mr. Hooper store, and then sit on that famous one-two-three stoop is there still sesame place there in Pennsylvania. Outside philadelphia. I grew up to be sesame place. Yes. Me places still. They're still going strong sesame places actually owned by the SeaWorld, entertainment, and parks. And I know that they've announced that they want to build a second sesame place someplace in the country. We don't know where yet, but that is in the plans how about what's going on with that Harry Potter coaster. I've heard about they are in full construction of a new Harry Potter roller coaster at highlands of insure here in Orlando Florida, and we don't really know much details. Universal likes to keep things on the secret of side until a couple months before they actually opened it up, but it will open up this summer. It's going to be a whole new story based on the Potter films. It looks like rumors suggest it's going to be a motorbike ride. So if you remember from the sex seventh film when they ride those bikes with Hagrid, those are going to be the rollercoaster vehicles. You're gonna go through the forbidden forest and see dangerous left and ride. It looks like it's gonna be a high-tech immersive attraction for universal. I do wanna. Talk about this rumor, I heard we are of course in the throes of the NFL playoffs right now. Yes. Is it true? I've heard there's some connection with the NFL and theme parks now. Yes, kennywood park. This year is going to opening up a a whole land and a rollercoaster for the first time based on an NFL property. Now, this is out there around your neck of the woods and Pennsylvania. So there are two greats teams to choose from day chose the Pittsburgh Steelers Ooh. So yeah, they're gonna hold land based on has called Steelers country. There's going to be a steel curtain roller coaster, which they've released what the ride vehicles look like in. It's like you're sending in the jersey with the headdresses a football. There's going to be merchandise. Skill games for locations theme to tell getting experience like it's going to be a huge NFL playground. But the Steelers theme that's great. They can have wide receivers arguing, but the coaches and they running backs holding out and not showing up to the park. That'll be fun. All right back. Thanks so much as always for catching us up in the world of theme. Parks before you say goodbye, I saw that you were doing this great charity event. And I wanted to mention it to the army before I let you go a little bit about the race that you're running this weekend. So this weekend is the annual while DisneyWorld marathon weekend, they have a five K ten K A half in the full marathon. I have always done five days in the past. But for the first time this year, I'm challenging myself to do both the five K and the ten K, and I'm partnering with give kids the world village located here in Orlando, Florida to run the racist for them and raise money for that place. Now, tell me little bit about give kids the world village. It's a nonprofit resort here in Kasumi Florida right outside of Orlando provides week Lord cost-free vacations to children with life threatening illnesses and their families. So they they fly people down here. They get to stay the entire week on site at their village. Call. Cost-free then the par the parks of partnering with gives the world for years. Now, they get free tickets to go to the theme parks characters will sometimes go to the village and selves to meet in person. It's a wonderful organization. We've done a lot of great work with them in in the past. And I'm excited continue helping raise money from that sounds awesome. How can the army help you raise money for this worthy charity? Well, the website if you wanna go to support dot g k t w dot org slash Goto slash banks. -ly that's Ringo to make a donation any amount. You can donate would be very very helpful trying. I'm trying to raise at least seven hundred fifty dollars about six percent of the way there the race. I is this Thursday and Friday. So I love to at least try to break that before before you get out there run. Okay. That link is ridiculously long and hard number. So what I'm gonna do? I will put out a separate post via patriot to our listeners. And then if they want to help contribute they can click on it. Easier than trying to write that down. What you just said exactly outta ashore website address. But that's how it is. No worries bags pleasure to catch up with you. Let's do it again soon. Anytime you hear some news about the theme. Parks reach on out. And we'll talk about it. Okay. Offering ralph's. Thank you so much. We'll see you later. Happy. New your buddy new year. New year, and I will pass along that information on that charity work that banks is doing so if you folks are kind enough to throw a few bucks way, I'm sure those kids with life threatening illnesses would absolutely appreciate it tomorrow. It's a brand new show on a brand new day. It's Tuesday tonight is the premiere of the bachelor Eddie, yes, it's a three hour long. The batch a long-time why watch the bachelor when you simply can tune in tomorrow and listen to the recap of my wife, and I talking about three hours -actly, we'll fill you on everything you need to know all that. Plus all the entertainment news Steve Ashton will be stopping by with the first UK update of the week. It's going to be a great show. I've announcement away mic where we say her chemic- enough. Here's breaking news events, the Saturday January twelfth at the ice house. I'll be performing stand up comedy along with John Cooperman. The are Rick barrier nude make him do bring my boy he's going to bring me up on stage. Awesome. January twelfth at the ice house nine thirty PM. So tickets are available online, I'll tweet out links and stuff. So right. Do you know the the website offhand ice house comedy ice has comedy dot com? That's where you can go to get your tickets to see your vice host. Eddie pens, performing live on stage. If he doesn't sell this up. I'm going to be a little disappointing. Frank, the Garmisch should show up to support Eddie pen, and John and John Cooper. Of course, he's added to the she comes out on stage Borate Maranto, and those who don't know what's going on. We'll look at you. Like, you're insane. I get that look a lot. So there you go. Thank you Pence for that. Breaking. Sake. And now where was like. Oh, that's right. Sorry, come on back tomorrow won't you? Here's why. Because I love you. And I mean it by.

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Good Books & Bad Candidates

The Babylon Bee

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Good Books & Bad Candidates

"In a world of fake news. This is news. You can trust me just feeding Satan by saying this same achieve. You're listening to the Babylon beam with your host. Kyle man and Ethan Nicolle. Welcome to the Bambi new show with Kyle Man. That's the voice. You're hearing in your ear canals dripping in their gravy right now like mashed potatoes like mashed potatoes and only subscribers would understand that reference. That's a good way to start. The show is just referencing things. No one will understand. I'm trying to get people to subscribe than don't you WanNa bring home the bread and the Cheddar? The Senate Chief. This is it. This is the chief this is chief. We needed more. Come from this. People Act like they've just ended the conversation. They Post that you know. He just stopped talking about houses. Like I'm so cool. I like the guy like cracking his fingers and tagging saying it and they're like rolling their eyes and then he logs off. Yeah Mind. We're curious. Where did that come from? I don't know Dan. You know research where this chief came from. We would probably on it. We would probably know if we had our wives with us because they knew a lot of things that we didn't know I don't think they know that they wouldn't care that would say. Why are you guys wasting time? Even know we're talking about okay so according to know your meme this ain't it? Chief is a slang phrase used in forums as a way to tell the poster. The thing they posted isn't as cool as they think. In origin is became popular in the summer of twenty eighteen from like or something like aliens biting some guys like the Senate chief or something. Early example was posted on the main page sunny side up on July first and it shows like a picture with a headline the headline says move over robbers lace shorts. Are the newest guys fashion in someone commented? This ain't it chief this is. This is a dead end. Yeah it'll be more interesting than I liked. There's like a researcher of memes. The first known reference to the sainted chief. I would have thought there have been more interesting Ferris. Bueller day off that once the bully actually Charles Dickens coin. This is usually something like that where it's way earlier than you thought. After the the Beatles like being horrible Oliver stands up the sainted chief. Right well sorry everybody that our wives aren't with us today. We thought we a lot of good feedback in a made us feel terrible that now you can hear us but you can look forward to it every year we will have our wines return. It's right for the Valentine's Day podcast. That was fun and our wives drunk with power to take over the show. My wife listened to the podcast for the first time when she was on and then she goes. This is actually pretty good my father-in-law listen to it. He's like you're a whole different person when you're on that thing. I'm pretty much like a very introverted person. In general you sound bright clean and articulate. When you're on the babble on podcast Yeah I save only energy for the podcast and then it's over and back to League you're done do well everybody. This is the podcast where we cover the news. And we do that by Reading Bible on headlines and then. We do a topic of the week and this week. We're GONNA talk about books. Books that shaped our feeble little minds until the book weird things that they are now fan on that paper in them. They're thick who have hardcovers. Generally I set them up either knocks him down. Yeah that's how this GonNa talk about books. And then I look at you. Go on about books. Webster's dictionary defines books as host. But Yeah it's GonNa to be fun. Whenever he talked about him. I start thinking what am I gonNa say? What books and we'RE GONNA talk about. Because they didn't write it down. We're GONNA find out when we get there and we're going to figure it out all right so so it'll be a lot of fun but for now. Let's talk about the weekly news. Some things happened this week. Let's see what they were every week stories. These are some of them. Well I have some bad news everybody. Everybody's favourite Democratic candidate has dropped out of the race Marianne Williamson. Everybody's second favorite candidate has dropped out of the race in that is Andrew Yang Dang Dang Yang. Stop at how far we get into the store before you did a Dingo five seconds so the Babylon be reported that the campaign collapsed after it was revealed that the thousand dollar a month giveaway he was offering would actually be paid for with a thousand dollars a month. Tax Increase Warm. Though right sad trombone you talk to over my want wall. Sorry well warm We'll I guess. Some people were saying that his it was going to be paid for with some he had crazy plan to like. I don't know corporate earnings. That wouldn't be paying taxes but every time you hear that. I'm like It's coming out of tax. I even if you get it from a corporation eventually. You're going to be paying more. I thought he gave a certain amount of people a thousand dollars at a debate. I didn't know he was gonNA give everybody in the world. That's what another world but the United States. Well maybe the world who the Democrats love everybody. It's true with the open borders. I know a lot of them are open borders. I don't know it's weird to be the president of a area and then open borders because like make it. I want to be president of everybody. Yeah because I mean yeah. I guess that's just saying you. WanNa be complete totalitarian. I mean it creates such a great utopia that everyone in the world is GONNA flood our country. Yeah Yang the thousand dollar thing was was it was basically his version of UB. I which is universal basic income. So I think a couple of countries have tried some kind of a similar program in. It's basically because you are alive because you are a citizen of this country you get paid a certain amount of money a month just to because you are a thing that just for breathing. I really broke down the description of that at the end there as rough just for Penn. Just for existing. You'll get money eighth and you woke up this morning. Good job buddy. Thanks here you go thousand bucks. I think you have an effect and things like everybody knows. Everybody already has a thousand bucks. They just kind of adjust the prices to that. That's a that's a good point. I don't know I don't know what the effects have been economically who. I am not an economist. Either economist in Time Thomas. Oh like you don't want to know what happened. Gave everybody a million dollars if a million dollars dropping everybody's doorstep well and he explained it and I can't remember what he said so remember. This is really important thing to remember it. I I've gone. You could see it on a smaller scale with things like College tuition because basically the government gives everybody all these shows up. Anybody can get along to go to college here. You go and then the prices go so I'm sure it as with everything. It's like the more extreme you go crazy or the effects are so if you're giving somebody a small amount a month that is going to have as big of an effect and I think actually I think a lot of conservatives would probably support the EUBOEA if it were to replace like all welfare programs you say instead of all this crazy Medicare Medicaid I'm I'm moving my hands in a circuit emotions close to continue adding onto what I'm so. Yeah and Social Security all the entitlement programs you say. We replaced all the entitlement programs. Everybody gets this amount of money. Just go thousand bucks a month. I think people would say well. It's not I rather that the government doesn't give any money for like a few months and then suddenly we need a thousand dollars. Plus this Onis Vermin Supreme Offers Pony Three Onis Dan. You look pensive. Like you WanNa say something. I just really wanted me dollars. Dan's mind swimming on Kinda. I'm Kinda I'm Kinda said. He dropped out. I didn't agree with you or or like what I did. Appreciate about. Andrew Yang is that it seemed like of the Democratic candidates. He seemed like a human being. That would talk to You. And wouldn't you know if you're if you're a republican or a conservative? It seemed like he would make an attempt to like. Hey let's talk about this issue. Yeah we could have been Andrew Yang like Dick should have been his slogan not a robot. He sat in the very chair. I sat in when we interviewed. Ruben Andrew Yang not a communist Andrew Yang. I Will Not Punch you in the face. I don't know I'm just trying to spit ball. Some some slogans for him could've worked. I kept trying to think of young gang jokes. I know in Dang Dang Yang Yang l Dang Yang Gang Gang Gang Gang Gang Yang. I don't know this Street gangs leaving head them. People's beds and stuff gangi distributing thousand dollars or. They're like walking down the street snapping their fingers to the beat like they're in west side story over. Come to the young gang. Yeah I think it was unfortunate. He got it kind of tied in with that thousand dollars thing was his main thing because I do think he had. Some stuff can't ever heard much better Adam until that hit it was like Oh seems Kinda goofy you know so you know it would end up being in addition to all the entitlement programs and then it would just go up and then it would just so anyway rest in peace young rest in peace in peace everyone poor forty out of forty of grape juice out for the yankees some Tang for the say some slang poured out some Tang and sharpen your Fang. You went out with a bang and and watch Ninja Turtles. Because there's a guy named Krang all right. That's it I'm cutting you off. So where do his supporters go now that he's not in the race? Is that those one of the things that he was that much of a player. He was at one percent hearing. You know. I don't know man one percenter. I'LL BET. Everybody was excited. Antic we had some numbers on this but everybody was super excited about Yang. Probably isn't excited about anybody else. Because it was like with Ron Paul like people were like all excited. I am a Ron Paul Fan. And then it's like I'm not gonNA if he drops out I'm not gonNA support anybody else. Sar Yanking Yeah. They were the guys at the blue hats on twitter right when I think anybody who has a blue hat in their handle was a yanking isn't is that what the Blue Hatton was. I think so. Remember when he was like Squirt and whip cream and these guys mouth. Ben Remember the ground before him what was the point of. What's funny is his lawyer. Somebody who's right next to him and he's like he when he goes for the second guy. The Guy Kinda hose. It was like the optics are bad on this. You can see the guy stopping him. And he's like just like lost in the moment. This is kind of connected to nothing but remember when Ralph. Northam was giving that speech apologizing for the black face and he was talking about how you used to do. It used to justice Michael Jackson and Moonwalk and then his head he looks around. And they're like can you still moonwalk and he looks around like he's about to do it and his wife grabs him by the shoulder. Whatever so gives them a look and shakes her head and he looks back. He's like no. I'm not going to do it right and win. A reporter inquired if you could still moonwalk. The governor seem to WANNA try. Are you still able to Moonwalk? My wife says inappropriate circumstances. He's still do the tap dance so Yang. Maybe if you hadn't done the whipped cream thing it's still in but we're going to miss them so cream ruined him. Now this just in Donald Trump did a fly over of the Daytona five hundred Air Force One and So this is NASCAR related. Apparently and you might say the Daytona five hundred isn't s cover lady Nascar today that's the Daytona thing in the world of NASCAR thing. Is that like the Super Bowl of NASCAR. Sure we'll go with that so clearly. The key demographic for this but anyway are are headline was the Bloomberg Bloomberg stops by Daytona. Five hundred handout speeding tickets because he's a jerk. He likes the tickets. Apparently we definitely need the parentheses at the end of each of headlines because he is because he's an idiot your Bloomberg is the is the chief moral legislator he likes passing all these laws where you can't drink sodas. Yeah so I was going to go north but I forgot. It was the straws. Are Sodas sugary drinks right? I'm sure he ban strong. I don't know but yeah. The the sodas was the thing to stop obesity. You can only drink twelve ounce sooner. Sixteen ounce or something like that no free refills million dollar refills like his whole plan is foiled when someone just goes back for a second no hassle. What was the What would be the liberal equivalent to if a Democrat candidate went out in pandered this heavily to base? Because I don't know that trump gained a single vote for him if the just the. It's a longstanding tradition. Though because presidents are always going to world series games drew basketball. They go to NASCAR. Has President Bush went to NASCAR? I just saw this discussion on twitter between Democrats Those interesting question like what would be the equivalent on the left side. Yeah I guess thinking grateful dead concert at like Ben and Jerry's shop opening greenie sanders like parachutes in with a parachute made from rainbows about Subaru on the same wavelength here rainbow parachute going into the Ben and Jerry's opening that's not really like a big event like After the big. What's the big? It's just Hollywood. I Guess Oscars. Yeah they do. Kinda do stuff like that. I guess be going to the opening of some crazy movie or something Hamilton Hamilton. One of the guys get run out of Hamilton Mike Pence. They started lecturing him the stage. It's awesome it. Dan had mentioned the Lighting up the White House with the Rainbow. Oh yeah that's kind of Bandari. The pantry I guess going purchase ignoring the trump is NASCAR signally. Yeah I think it's Kinda cool you get. Lebron doesn't bother me at all. Confuse me why it bothers 'cause like this. Yeah this is what we always talk about. Is that the same thing to president doing predictions dozen. It's like why this is a problem. Yeah I don't know I don't get it. People have a real visceral reaction to NASCAR. But he's so he's so trump though he's driving around the Lumo around I'm sure he's sitting in the fly over to the BUZZER. I like the idea that maybe this wasn't scheduled the plane and it's fine over and trump's like hey let's bosom he's knocking on the pilot the throw throw stuff out of the plane like fried chicken or anything. They all mayor drops some muggy hats. Say Maga Maga Mega Mega Niagara there. So you ever watch NASCAR NOT A BIG NASCAR GUY. You look like you don't get the. I just look fat. But that's not what I said but I don't get one with the beard and you you you could be a nascar. I had friends that were because I grew up around sand dunes so everybody was into buggies and stuff so like they're really racing and worked on cars. I didn't get it like once. It's around one time. I've got the gist of it. And then it just keeps happening. Oh the oh their own again. Yeah wait happened to me. I took my Son into monster trucks and had a blast. The next year we went to motorcross and win like five minutes in. We're bored out of our minds. Just GOING AROUND CIRCLE. It's cool. They go on the jumps over and over again. But it's like they do it so much that it's like walking. It's like watching a person walk. It makes a person jumping on a motorcycle as mundane as somebody walking on the sidewalk. I Seen Austin. I've seen a few races just on on TV. We'd sit down and watch for few hours. Okay hours long races but you know just fast forward it record it fast forward it. Yeah I could never get into it myself. People people like it. I think at school and you can have it if you could. I want you to enjoy it. I think it's cool. I think probably a lot than we see in any sport you get into. It's the same way with baseball for a long time. I didn't get it and I had a friend. Y- Paul you know my friend Paul. And he said No. There's a lot going on baseball that you don't see 'cause I'm GonNa just standing there you gotTa Watch strategy you gotTa Watch how the players shifting you gotta you know. I'm like Whoa and you. It's this whole world that opens up you know and I'm sure it's the same thing with asker. He asked me the boxing. I got interested for awhile and suddenly boxing matches were. I watched tons of them. I watched all the region like famous matches and stuff because I had done some sparring and got into like. What's going through your head? I just got punched. What's going through your head? Is the other guys this? Yeah actually this happened to me with Adam Ford. I when I visited his house in Michigan. He's like hey we're going to watch the We're GONNA watch the fight. Ufc and I never really watched one before. So He's a down. He's explaining how this this guy you gotTa know this guy's records coming into this and that this guy that just went and punched each other. 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And then it descends into the apocalypse we probably have this like mental response to the Internet is able to but the funny thing is to us at the time it sounded like the sound of technology. Like US yeah. That's what I'm saying like you had this positive mental response to it. It was like a robot awakening. It's like a monkey if they played a screeching demon noise and then dropped a little food pellet or something that was like that's like for us. We hear the screeching noise. We know the Internet is coming. Yeah and eventually you hear the screeching noise and then you'd be like Internet lost. This analogy. They would do mental conditioning. Pavlovian responses here noise. And then you know the food's coming to me it's like you're just proud of it like because it's new. It's like We're the entire World Wide Web is opening before our our ears but then after that it's boring it's like okay. You don't need the sound anymore. It's really loud today. They stopped sound. Remember how weird at first to be like wait. We'll be online all the time like you won't connect and then I had friends that got I think it was. Dsl was one of the early get DSL and it was. I think my modem was fifty six K or whatever and they're getting like Cameron with like two hundred and fifty slow load when that was revolutionary video. When you watch video clicking watch it we used to like when we got excited we want to watch that money bombs world or whatever we would just download the video and save it to our hard drive and you take like an hour now. Have video saved them harder. My friends come over. Have you seen on the phone and videos if collected? I've literally doesn't my friend has obsessive about recording like getting movies off of Kazan Kazaa. But he half the time he'd get these like bootlegged ones or somebody's filming it from inside of the theater from their coat but he's still out of pride still watch it. I got this movie. Yeah he said well. You don't want it on this. Watch this right now. I got early. It's not even in theaters yet or whatever. I don't WanNA watch some guys coat video. I had a friend that was big on that he was gonna Pirate Bay and he would. He would just download movies and he's like I got this new movie and you're like do you WANNA watch it. And he's like no. I don't really have any interest in it but I just download all the movies that come out. Yeah I did that at blockbuster. He had that five always have five. Dvd's at a time. You know you can go and swap matter anytime so he just come home and just record all them into a library today. Already tell the story and I don't think so so. He had this Missouri Urine Collection. There's no you know you're in the know. You have it. But he got all these movies that he didn't even know they were He. Does it became such an obsession that he had this huge. He's trying to copy the entire store to his house five. Dvd's at a time and he had them in these hilarious categories because it wasn't like the normal categories. They have their where. It's like action COP DRAMA. It's like Dila and then that's like all the all the girl movies but then there's like de la that's his wife's name My step mom. Then there's like Western or whatever and then he had seagal when there's just like all Steven Seagal a true kinda sewer at Nicole Buster. But there'd be like really bad movies like Dad. You know what this movie is. I just go to the next one on the shelf and copy it money spent on Blake debate anyway. That's that's that. Is that story and character. We need an episode centered on. Yeah we should the episode. We do fathers. We do a father episode. He's getting pretty old. Yes it was kind of amazing I think over the fall. I was thinking about who would win the Democratic nomination and I was. I couldn't see any way that anyone abiding would we end. Just because he's such a powerhouse in terms of he was the vice president. I never got that. Nobody really cared about him. Then I die. Nobody's passionate about them. It's just oh I guess it's Biden like that. It felt like this amazing like politics get. Who is if you go out in the North People in the street? Who's Joe Biden? It's amazing how few people know who he is was it that he was eating in the diner where that guy didn't know who he was. Did you show me that Dan? I think I think he was standing there. And then he's like I'm Joe Biden. Who was the vice president for years? I WANNA make sure I'm not missing this up but then the guy was like okay. Cool he's back to watching. Tv At the diner is awesome. Yeah I don't really just feel one of the things that some of these other guys. I don't see like Buddha. Ginger is like the mayor of small town. He's GonNa get our last two presidents. I felt that way the beginning like that's true. That's true like when I first saw Obama is like going to happen is there's weird Middle Name. Hussein and Obama sounds like Osama and like and who is. This guy is just so weird and then now it's hard to believe you. I mean makes sense now looking back and then trump you know. Yeah yeah right like he every president. Yeah I totally felt exactly now. The moment I feel about somebody like judge I immediately go on no is going to be president because it's got a weird name and he's weird looking and it doesn't make sense. It does not make sense people who have that. We're looking people. Vote Are Weird Weirdos picking but I have to say that I would have to queue imagine a future we have to say Budaj where we had to say President Pete. Boot `age former mayor of outspending. Change the pronunciation some like Buddha gag or something like make it easier when I first saw it I thought but a but a guy or somebody Guy Scott Booty. Just Call No. That's a good joke. We should do a joke about how I was like Moody Zone Song. Jennifer Lopez Song. Does she have a Buddhist? I Dunno she's known for the Buddhist stuff. Well why don't we What are we talking about? Books do it. Babylon B.'s. Topic of the week books so readable so readable so white with words white. Wow is no books of black pages. It's messed up we. There's maybe like a children's picture book with page it's like I said a nighttime darkstars. It would be a black bean white text so it was the first book that you read at an early age. You know just picture punked out a pillar hunger. Yes something like that. I I developed as real extreme love for reading in like the third and fourth grade and discovered the concept of the novel and it was just I was. I was like to the point where I was just in my room and go home do homework. Go to my room for six hours novels. Wow I just I was obsessed in was not like that. You know what was yours. I did read. I read Som- but I just never. I never got the bug. I wouldn't read full series but I read some Mike Era. Hardie boys. I read a lot of Harvey I read some Stephen King remembered misery and I can't remember what else I read a little bit of Neil gaiman Guy. Winter Gaming wasn't allowed wasn't alone during this Jurassic Park. Although I do need to come back to Stephen King talk a little bit but But yeah so like through high school and stuff and it wasn't until out of high school when suddenly reading was purely my choice. Suddenly I started diving into war with a lot of those when I got into genetics philosophy. A lot of that stuff. Ceus Louis which led to the Chesterton bug G K Chesterton. It's going to happen a lot. This this topic but then the thing that really got me a bug for fiction because I actually read a lot of fiction while I was reading to my kids reading all these books that always intended to read but can reason I never read a lot of fiction novels and I read and my crazy to my kids so the interesting thing to me about books as often if I return to an old book I remember I can remember what I was going through my life when I read that book. That's true where I was where I was sitting. I read it as some albums to music. Happens it to me with music. A lot to some some with movies and video games but more think more music probably equally so you can listen to an album. Remember so it's interesting to me because I feel it really is tied in with development and embracing your values creating your values Discovering the values that are out there. I guess that's Chesterton. Would say G K Chesterton discovering objective. Truth might have been my first time getting. So what are we doing like our top five as a matter? How a top? Just kind of go off on books were well. Yeah we can talk about our favorites. This can be fiction or nonfiction just books that impacted US see. We planned this out a lot. Let's do Let's do anything you want. Although mine all mine will be more fiction. Fiction better mostly fiction. I like fake things. Well I'm not going to go in any particular order but let me talk The Best Book ever written Lord of the Rings Still Never had the third one. Okay and I WANNA I wanNA use this talk about because you talked about how you've discovered reading for pleasure when you're older And I do think that school. A Lotta Times ruins kids for reading. Yeah because they pick horrible books. I hated literature classes and stuff. Because you know this whole like what is a specifically remember freshman year high school talking about The scarlet letter. I think it was the scarlet letter and they There was some Rose Bush. The author was describing. You know we had to write like a five page essay on what the Rosebush represents I don't I don't know and I don't care and I don't you know. Yeah I don't know I feel like I feel like schools. Do a very bad job of telling kids like you can read this book and enjoy it because it's a very good story. Yeah you don't have to stop and analyze everything that that really made me hate ry. I don't know what it was and I think part of this is didn't like being told what to do. So if you tell me this is the book you're GonNa read that's party they don't want to. It's absolutely part of it. You must read this book. You know okay. It would be awesome for the. Here's a list of approved books. Yeah you pick one. And there was some of that where they'd say here's one books to pick from for your reporting. It sounds interesting but they always pick from. I feel like a lot of the books that are considered classics now or not like should not be missed. Because they're not good books. I and I think a lot of times they're picked there were some. You're hot takes classic books that should not aspects Yeah Great Gasping. I remember. I didn't WanNa read that. Have you read it? Yeah I had to read it in Freshman Year of high school or something. I don't feel like have the authorities say that Bolt Against B. for sure you would call it the mediocre Gatsby the two star out of five Gatsby. Oh what's the guy that wrote It wasn't a novel. Think but I wrote about the wilderness so at the time Hemingway Hemingway Ernest Hemingway Walden Emerson Dot guy. Ralph Waldo Emerson K. And he would just write these like this whole like three hundred page book collections of of his musings in the forest. It's like existential. Deploying just like Oh my. Please kill me please. Please take me out to this forest and let a tree fall on top of horrible that I may be devoured by weasels. So this is your hot take for today guys are bad right actually like moby Dick Moby Dick. Hoping I got like I have trouble finishing it as well. Audiobook died on me and I lost my place. I like it until he gets step. One chapter research describing whales. There's certain chapters were purely educational and you're like now. Maybe I should got the abridged version and I've heard people say I've heard people say that all the information. There is wrong as well. He's made its fan thicken wiggling fan fiction about Moby Dick. This is that the author never became famous for it. Yeah which is he was still working at Ellis. Island is like a just working in the Museum of their whatever the he's working normal job some guy but Yeah that's a mainly book. You read that you feel mainly reading it. Good Yeah you just WanNa go out and kill the whale. Yeah or something feels very much like an old pirate's in they're telling you story it's like really yeah it's good. I agree I was trying to look up some other classics. But I can't think of any more at the moment so let me go back to Lord of the Rings Care So We had a a teacher think it was in sixth grade that all of a sudden out of nowhere total nerd and he goes. We're GonNa read the Hobbit and it's like it's not. I don't know if this is common so tell me listeners if this is common but for someone to be like we're reading the Lord of the Rings in Elementary School or Middle School. I guess it doesn't seem like it's very commonly assigned like it's not in that list of classic novels. Even though it is a classic novel remember we did or not. I don't think we did. And it was a total nerd thing and he like. Would we'd go through every chapter and you could tell that he loved this book. He was super excited by this book. And we had to go into the history of middle earth and it was like this whole world opened up for me so I went to the library and I think is kind of by accident but I saw another cool fantasy book. I WanNa read some fantasy so I checked out the two towers which is the second book Lord of the Rings. Oh see this is the first book no or you hobbit would have. Oh okay so then I go check out the second books I skipped fellowship in higher with it. I didn't know it was part of the same series I check out to towers and it starts out with the scene of boroughmuir. He's been killed by Zeros and he's lying on the tree and legless and airborne stuff they're trying to figure out what to do next and and so it was very confusing. What was actually a really dramatic? Start like Oh this guy got killed. And they're trying. This party is splitting up. And they're trying to do so then later. I learned that there were more books so then I went back not fellowship reread through towers re in return of the king and it just fell in love and every time I read read Lord of the Rings I feel like I'm returning to this land of Middle Earth like it's this. It's this fantasy land that exists somewhere that I go to hang out and I smoked. Pipe weed with Bilbo and Frodo and stuff. Yeah I think I had like for. Some reason resisted token for like most of my life. I don't know why I just had a weird. I don't know why I thought I wouldn't like it when I everybody that I liked likes it so people could taste like it so I finally read the Hobbit to my kids and I read it to myself I. This is not just good. It's I don't know it. It's a book you get lost in and that's one thing soaking does is he brings you into world and you lost in it and you remember it and you want to go back there after. You're done yes exactly and So I really wanted to take my kids their vacation to middle or yeah. I was amazed how much they dug it like when I read it to them and I did think. I didn't think that if they sat there and tried to read it themselves. I don't know who would have had the same impact. We read it out loud and really special as one of the most special books. I read out loud to my kids. Can't read it to my other two. So that's one of my books for sure. Yeah absolutely and I I love how. Every time I read Lord of the Rings I come up with something new come out with new observations and a new focus so this last time that I reread it about a year ago I noticed that token often one of the main themes that he hits on is this passage of time. How like this world that he's describing it's within the Lord of the Rings Book Events. That happened are such a small part of the overall history of middle earth and so when they get the Tom Bombardier. He's this kind of eternal creature. Who's been there? Since the beginning he talks he's got this great monologue or Soliloquy or whatever you WanNa call it where he talks he goes on about all the empires that have risen and fallen. And he doesn't care about sorrow and he's like Oh sorry can Sarno fall. They don't don't worry about him like he doesn't involve because he's just like he's just another one of these evil creatures that comes along they get if they fade away and it was actually really encouraging to me because we get stuck in this mindset of like. Yeah whatever evil. We're facing now. We hear this in politics. Awhile ago this is an unprecedented time and this will. This is the Anti Christ. The Times are here. Yeah this is an unprecedented time for our republic and this is the worst time we are facing. Election is the most important election time that won't be article may be and is it so to go. You know what a deep breath and step back. Be Tom Adele. Be Tom Deliver Buddy. And if you would just watch the movies you wouldn't know who that is so read. The books are your your pick. What book are You Ing of in your head right now sir. One other book that had a huge impact on me with mere Christianity by CS Lewis. I feel like that's like everybody who says that. But yes. That was a book that I read a gazillion times. I actually I recorded the audiobook for myself so I would learn it better so I recorded how to record a few chapters at a time and then I listened to all I worked. You would say you would read it out loud. Read it out loud to. Yeah like on a cassette or was What did I use? I think it may have back assaid. Tramper this is on a vinyl record. This would be like two thousand gramophone. So I can't what is using that time. Yeah that's cool record it and listen to it read I did have cassettes cassettes. I rented from the library. Maybe it had a camera on some cable played the beast beating the beast. Peter and Fancy British Guy. Either Beast But yeah and that's one reason. I know the first half of the book much better than the second. All those basic Concept if I remembered that the last chapter was like forgettable and they started talking about evolution. And all this very being really interesting. Because he's talking about art and creativity and stuff are being fascinated. The last part really made sense to me but A lot of the basic concepts of why is there a God it really the basic arguments America Shannon? We really have stuck with me I I really don't doubt I. I just I have no doubt about there being a God almost ever like some people. Find it very hard to believe. I I this stuff I start with more is in the details when I when I get more struggling. It's like how do you know these details? It's exactly this or whatever but like the idea that there is a god that he's moral and that That he's involved in their lives in some way those basics he lays out so well the I five I anyway mix James Good Book in conclusion conclusion. Yeah I'll just chime in that. My My GRANDPA died when I was Thirteen like just before my thirteenth birthday. And I we were ransacking. The library at his house and I got a copy of mere Christianity after passed away and I read it word. I mean we were allowed. You guys want any books that GRANDPA hat and so I took and also how Lindsay's the late great planet Earth which didn't have quite as much of an effect but But Emir Christianity and I remember being in my room reading Christianity and it was very similar. Just like wow. There are great philosophical moral arguments for the existence of God and for for Christ and what he did. It was amazing to me. That's still I still use my head. I still think about The logical arguments to Louis US. Because they're so good. The the the analogy makes perfect. You know and not and what what's great about it is. It's not just a real like here are proves that earns cod. But it's like how you live your Christian life and you know there was a lot of stuff in there about Christian living specifically. I think that was the book analogy of the Piano and he talked about how every human act is a moral. It's just like keys on a piano and so you can. You can like there's a time and place for everything but you have to follow sheet music and so you can't just hit everything at the same time so he was talking about. How like people over emphasize one thing right? And that's like someone slamming the key over and over again and it's like it's not time for that. Yeah basic basically an argument about moderation. But you know I think about that a lot. Yeah I always go back Louis I think this is a miracle. Shanley but he definitely wrote it. Lewis one of those authors. I got so into. I read some stuff in but yeah when you look at creation from the perspective of a character in a story right. Yeah yeah the move things. We that the moments me says we should know this about God. It's like would a character in the story. No that about their author like yeah exactly their authors all around them and everything that they are in but they'd be except for the author's face in the author's voice yeah like the author exists all around them but he's out side of it right. He's but he's not an it's a I don't know so I find those analogies endlessly fascinating and also with the decisions that when I think about writing stories when you think about the decisions God is made that you get you know views about or whatever from the perspective of the characters. In the book he go. Why would the author ever put us through this? The author ever do this. Why would this chapter exist but as a storyteller understand that there's a be boring book it gives you a sense of humility and in your place like yeah? I demand that I know this from God. It's like yeah and in stories about transformation characters could never transform to become what they're going to become if they don't go through these things But I guess I do have to say that it was Louis that led me to Chesterton and I'll never forget the day. Okay here goes chest getting sick of it. We'll stop mentioning justice but I don I read Orthodoxy for the first time. Actually No. I may have read heretics first because he read he wrote. He wrote the book heretics I who just him taking on all these different ideas of his time. And he's kind of jokingly. Call them all. Heretics means they are heritage is heretical ideas. But he's in his joking Jovial Chesterton way so after he wrote that book You know then people is like well. And what is your. I'd big idea. They're all heretics what's so he wrote Orthodoxy. And that's kind of his statement of faith why he believes what he believes and Orthodoxy is you know Women's Nice about Louis. Says he's very original way makes his arguments Chesterton. Is that time two thousand. He just his such an original voice. Nobody could imitate it. It doesn't it doesn't feel like he's making arguments right. Feels like he is genuinely thinking out loud about things and writing them right well. It's a different style. Well I mean we've read also in rebuilding a lot of essays. aren't quite as straightforward as some of his essays and Orthodoxy are a little more because the whole books about a certain topic Jer. It's a little easier to follow kinda still writing. I could never get through orthodoxy. I've tried a few times I've been I've been enjoying when we've meeting up reading In Defensive San because it is more piecemeal. Yeah let's think about so once I've accustomed my brain to do have to accustom yourself to the way he thinks and talks. Ill Refer to things for instance madman or cycles and circles that you'll start to realize referred these things a lot and you'll go. Oh I get that idea now and keeps bringing it up yeah Va speaks a language. But I think the thing that Chester really blew my mind about was wonder like he really talks about wonder your place in the world. How how fascinating. This life is how little we know. Really Basic Ideas. But he writes about it. So beautifully I don't think I've ever recovered from that like I've it's changed my view of life Looking from a humble place choosing to be the pygmy looking a life through a recess through a microscope instead of a telescope. I like when we read. Chesterton how it seems like he's high all the time. There are certain ones are really. I think when that cheese essay that was just awesome. It's great but cheese and his whole I don't know if he has a point but he's talking about cheese. Yeah and all all the great poets have never made a whole analogies how everywhere you go. Everyone has their own cheese. It's like a special unique thing that you you're tasting their culture and he's talking about how sad it is that like that's going away. Everything else you know. He how he talked about how he wanted to murder. The waiter who tried to give him biscuits with cheese. Bazeley means crackers. Because he's talking about. The bread is original and the cheeses original and now they just want this packaged stuff. If he tasted like American cheese you probably his mind immediately catch fire and explode. Yes so what I love about him is. Is there that essay where he was talking about painting his ceiling? And he wakes up in the morning. It looks at the ceiling these need to. I need to put chalk on the end of my room and paint and paintbrushes paint brushes and paint my ceiling. And you'll talk about how he's talking to his wife about this. We're GONNA paint the ceiling. And I like how how disruptive he would have been. I don't know if you actually said these things out loud you know but in that cheese ESA he's talking about how he's all he's all ranting at the waiter about cheese and do even put any thought into your cheese. You you dare to offer me biscuits. And now he is almost every time we read them at least at one point and almost every essay. We all out loud like they're genuinely funny stuff. Chesterton says it's still funny today. The waiter brought me cheese indeed. But she's cut up into contemptible small pieces and it is the awful fact that instead of Christian bread who brought me biscuits biscuits to one who had eaten the cheese of four great countryside's biscuits to one who approved a new for himself. The sanctity of the ancient wedding between cheese and bread. I address the waiter in warm and moving terms. I asked him who he was that he should put us under. Those whom humanity had joined like. Can you imagine cervix? Imagine that this waiter like serving this guy. He talked about this a giant speech. He gives us guy who can't get a drawer open. Just think. Just think of the automatic. Imagine that you are in a battle with a demon or something like that and you're the war no longer be frustrated and you'll shout with glory. Yeah and I've appreciated you. Ethan for reintroducing estrogen because I did try to read Orthodoxy around the after Mere Christianity. Everybody's all you need to read Orthodox not try to read. I know it's a different way of thanksgiving. It's not yeah but I totally recommend if you are interested in Chesterton. It's really good for reading out loud and discussing because it really helps to digest it with other people especially someone who's already read some. Maybe we'll get those chesterton recordings on here. Some time whom you those readings other books that influenced me greatly was. Pilgrim's progress I don't know if you ever read it started I never got into it. Super Good This was a similar thing. I think where I picked up a copy for a quarter a thrift store and just blew my mind one of the things that really inspired me. what else. What else we. What did I answer twitter? Why don't they put on? Oh yeah so. This all came from a twitter. Who started this twitter thing? I got invited. Some of those ones where you invite your friends tag. Your friends see what books they like. So we all started. Posting are novels that shaped us which is an interesting question. Because it's not the same as your favorite novels. My favorite novels would actually be different than than novels that shaped me as I said at certain time in your life. So I'm actually huge Stephen King Fan and I've read almost everything he's written but only over the last two years. Wow It's a lot of reading and then I just burned out and stopped reading them intact. Well basically I had finished everything he'd written except the bad stuff because I read the dark tower series which is basically his crowning achievement. I've tried multiple times to get into the so. The first book is Great. The second book is Great. Third Book Fourth Book is I've heard so embryos tell me the first. The first book is hard to get through really I love. It's just like it's actually a collection of short stories. So it's just this gunslinger. That's chasing this weird wizard guy through the fourth through the desert and it's just like it's not very well connected but I wish books had a little summary at the end of each chapter like this is what you did. This is just after I need that. But the second and third books are crazy. Basically becomes this whole thing of like all you. It's a multi verse. Everything's connected so he's jumping back and forth in time and characters are coming from other franchises characters are coming from like star wars and Harry Potter. Like all this stuff. I don't even know if he's allowed to do legally. But things are coming into this whole multi versus coming together but then the last book is horrible and there is a giant spider in a diaper. That has the face of a baby. And it's being careful by a robot and I did not know his happening and I stopped reading so I was kind of disappointed that if his but anyway. I really do like Stephen King is. He's got he says crazy political things on twitter and he's kind of a controversy. Okay so we're thinking about him is that he's such a good writer on twitter. He's really bad at tweet. So unoriginal and uninteresting. He sounds like a thirteen year old. But what I like about his stuff. Is there really? Is this re very real like humans kind of searching for meaning and just like it's kind of like how far can a human go? What links can you push a human to have them retain sanity and retain their humanness? He explores that topic alone. Obviously not from a Christian perspective. But I think there's a lot to be learned from stuff like them so Stephen King Louis. My favorite would probably be one of his dark tower books or the shining maybe misery I only recently started reading Charles Dickens and It's probably only because of the first one that I really really dug into. I love both Oliver. Twist and David Copperfield. I really got into David Copperfield. I think partly because I didn't expect to. I thought it was going to be boring but I was so wrapped up in this characters and I think that what we'll part of the experience. I did mostly audio book. And there's an excellent audiobook version of it. Richard Armitage. The guy that plays the hobbit hot. Who's the Hobbit good-looking Hobbit from the hobbit movies? The the king one thorn. Yeah Yeah Right. He's the good-looking Hobbit. He's not the good looking. He's attractive though. It's this weird or an oaken shield. Can you look like other? All the other hobby looks like they. They always drive with giant nose near stuff but he but he's not the one who actually gets involved in the romantic love triangle. Okay Forbidden Love Movies. Where Blur for me. Thorin oaken shield at. He's looking she'll anyway. He read it and he does amazing he. He does all the voices so well really well acted. It's great highly recommended this When he does like the Voice of the fishermen guy and he says this emotion behind so good We I think the what that will woke in me was that how much character does drive story. 'cause like stuff happens in Charles Dickens his characters just so rich that he just want to be around them and interact. Yeah Yeah I really enjoyed Stephen King's on writing when he talks about how a lot of times he just puts. His characteristic situations starts running the chapter. And it's like I don't know what's going to happen. We're going to let the characters bounce off each other and see what happen so it is interesting that character driven element I was sketched out novels. And just Kinda went like this happens. This happens has happened to see your character. Actually drive as interesting yeah. That's the hardest thing for me when I try to write I. I do tend to focus on plot in the main characters become very Mary note just basic. Very possibly possibly. Yeah I don't know really who they are like they are generic like the right word. They're just not they're not fleshed out and I don't know how you flesh character out before you start writing it. I don't know if that's just jumping right number one. Yeah so Dickens I get it. They get way so popular. I know a couple of books. I've tried a few times and I actually like it but I just haven't finished going to have to the weird thing about them is they're written time. We're like each chapter every week or whatever and a newspaper so to read them. All back to back is kind of exhausting. It's not really meant to be read but I really do think I read all the twist out loud to my son and it reads out loud very well. It's very fun book to read out loud. I'll throw in their screw tape letters. I was a huge impact on me Later in life but I really enjoyed some sci fi like a dune Do ANDROIDS DREAM OF ELECTRIC SHEEP? Liver just amazing to me. Hp lovecraft one of my favorite authors are now read almost everything he's ever written and discovered recently logistics. The fish people in Smith just want. It's more Chesterton book but the ball and the cross G K chest tip. We're GONNA talk fixing zero fiction as well sitting record the ball and the cross is awesome. It's about an atheist in a Catholic and they want to have a duel to the death about the existence of God and how they've insulted dealers beliefs but all of the society is trying to stop them Because they care more about a just not fighting. We're just not not not getting so polite polite society just trying to stop them So yeah it's like a buddy comedy And they keep interacting with different philosophies throughout the book while being chased by the cops and all of society such a great concept and club and amaze me. How Cinematic Li? It was written like this chase sequences chase against chase sequence after chase sequence. That is the kind of naturally. Yeah Very British comedy. Yeah I can imagine it being like an egg right film if he was a Christian. Who is the heated? Like hot fuzz Shaun Gotcha nineteen eighty-four anything DYSTOPIA ANY LIKE I. I'm I read in nineteen eighty four more recently a few years ago and I didn't stick with me a lot of these more complicated books. No sick I don't understand this. These are the things like this list of books like if these had been assigned to me in high school or something. I don't know maybe I wouldn't like them because they were assigned to me but at the same time it's like why didn't they sign these? You know You'd have all these kids super interested in reading nineteen eighty-four obviously just so insightful. Farm animal farm has also granted an hour long reader with a bat so short you just barrel through which is awesome yeah The Roald. Dahl books had a big impact on me. Just need me excited about reading books my kids so I think I've told I've talked about that. Putting the past but He's he's author. That excites me. It just because seeing the way of my kids is our global because I read to them and I remember. I remember specific when I finished the B F g the way that the ending their dislike. There's this kind of like mind blown. They'd sad for it to be over kind of thing. Yeah I'll I'll just say that. I think one thing that I learned was just that. It's okay to enjoy a book just for a good narrative and I think God really does really did give us literature as a gift in itself. You know. We've talked about this before how Christians tend to think like a story house to directly point to has to be like a Bible Story. Yeah or yeah I mean I read a lot of like Frank Peretti growing to be fireproof. I mean a lot of frank. Peretti grown up where he does you know specifically Sutton a church thing specifically demons attacking and he. He's a great writer. And you know some of the books are good. Obviously you know but I think I think I have been able to expand more recently and go. Narrative is something that God has given us stories. God gave us stories and that makes makes us human and a with it. You know the animals don't enjoy stories. there's a line in Stephen King's it which I thought was one of his books but there's a line in the beginning where he says Eh. There's a teacher character. A writer bill character. I think he's He's talking about how Teaching class or something. And it's Kinda like that thing where there's a war in the school going on between the people who WanNa read real literature and the people who wanna read like monster stories or whatever His geared wants likes the monster stories or something. You know what he says. Something like can't story. Just be a story. Can't it just be a good story? Because I think in the class they wanted to analyze the monster represents you know this is a candidate? Just can't it? Just be a good monster story and obviously with Stephen King speaking through his character but I I have come to appreciate that perspective that I can just watch a good read a good monster story or a horror story or a good fantasy and be like. Wow that's cool. Yeah the whole idea that narrative makes just why humans WanNa tell stories. I think we're going to talk to bring it all about. This is a big Preview for that but yeah it's to me. There's something very theological just in the idea that we thrive on story and we see meaning in a sequence of events. Yeah where an animal would just say I ate. I slept like I'm you see meaning there. I don't know if they'd say that but just be like I currently am hungry. Yeah sure what would a bear say? Yeah well the bare near a Baranov. I say we save one more book each for the Subscriber Port. Okay I will talk about. Don't say what is going to be the price. I will talk about a series of life where I read like maybe fifty novel fifty shades of grey fifty shades of grey. Now about forty to fifty novels. And I'll tell you what they are. The that's GONNA be long. Well it'll be sure okay. All right and We just want a new more new stories. Let's do hate now. Oh Yeah hate me doing. Love Mail. I hate mail absolute. I love male. Baby we'll all of us. The Babylon be were extremely touched to have received an email from somebody whose name I do not know because I figure you have the email not because I have a new phone might front. App is now logging K. Email from a lady named dawn and she told us that one gear go her spouse of seventeen years passed away and she forty forty one forty one years believe and kind of said believe it or not one of the things that got me through this tough year was the Babylon podcast. And that's one of those things where I'm like really the battle. Just hit the floor with some of the again like like what like us? Just talking about the news and the Celia Way Help somebody like this. And it's not that I think we deserve that praise but it just it was interesting to me that and encouraging to us that God used the Bambi podcast. That wing got us. Just US trying to chill out about the news to help. Help out a little bit. You got some. I haven't email here maybe Yes she said when you cry every day. The only way you can deal with life is to try to find humor in everything. Then I discovered that new babble on podcast you guys were a lifeline. I could still keep up with what was going on but through the lens of humor and absurdity. I can't tell you how hard my fourteen year old son and I would laugh the dramatic readings of hate mail which we really missed by the way. And you have no idea how much we needed something to laugh at. I know you're probably tempted at sometimes to wonder if running a satire website really matters but I can tell you firsthand that you are doing. God's work the world needs someone to make them laugh and also show them how stupid and silly the people who desire to rule them really are. So thank you for your part in helping me through the worst year of my life. That's don but Yeah I think that's an email that we all have like Don. I don't know if he's been replied to yet. I resist three play. It took us a few days because we just kind of all sat around it in silence. We were all sitting there in silence like who wants to reply. None of us felt worthy with special episode. We fruit basket John Thank you so much it's I Dunno I think all of us just we think about what that would be like to to have. That horrible thing happened that you've had to go through and I it's UN. There's just like me and called the southern talk like I don't know I I can't even preplanned what I would do. I can't even think about it. I can't go there mentally and Nothing God gives you the grace. When happens you know? Yeah and I can't begin to imagine if one of my family members something like that were to happen. I mean but the idea that we could have any kind of help through that That is a blessing to us. Just free to tell us that. Thank you God. Bless you and listeners. Keep dawn in your prayers. Yeah in because Don has specifically requested some hate mail mail around such a beautiful. It gets better. We do need to get Dave to do dramatic reading okay because Don has requested okay. So let's do that. What's the email okay. Y'All are an abomination spreading your trash. Y'All why not spread truth in love. Poignant that one could use a dave reading so Don. There's your Dave reading that will debuting and we're going to do like a like a southern southern fiery preacher. Y'All are in a bomb nation. There's their word abominations in that. We got to have a southern gets very kind of a meaningful in truth and love. Well we just throw a throw Kumai on at the end. So it's like apocalyptic horror screaming when a tooth and low Koumba. Something like that well. Instead of US imitating. Let's just see what Dave does here? It is here's all run. Obama nation spreading the trash. Why not spread truth? Love comb by young everybody. Thanks for tuning in. 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Ep 112 - How to Be a Man

The Tiny Meat Gang Podcast

1:18:34 hr | 11 months ago

Ep 112 - How to Be a Man

"What's up guys? We're GONNA team podcast. This is actually last week's episode. If you won today's episode that'll be on our patriots right now. You can get a week early early if you contribute. It's patriots dot com slash tiny. Meet Gang. So thanks if you do that and if not enjoyed this one who's Yeah I. I love him podcasts. Start when it's not when it's not supposed to be started yet so we're just gonNA leave all this fucking for the Patriots. People it makes surreal. You know human makes all right right word. Well what's up guys. We found out that Charlie milio is a fan currently the The yeah so you know we're going to have to atone for that. Yes Oh sorry. Fire Bath Sorry Russ senior. It's so hard we gave them. Yeah are bad our bed. Yeah Dad Yeah mostly your dad but it's also are bad. I'm not going to say okay. It's all your Dad's I'm GonNa just say you know I'm GonNa stand by what I said before I wanna be on the Internet. Anybody could get it way. Also he it. Did we talk about us. He's like richest foxy. How Yeah Yeah? He's running for Senate and his local bad bad person that you know. I wanted to to harp on for half an hour. I mean this is like the shit things like. It's like a curse everything we say we're not GONNA do we end up doing like. Let's not torture them again. Yeah well I had always fucking haircut. They should just do that for like half an hour. Well this is a fucking seems to be a trend for us right talk about some shit and then it starts weirdly starts happening more. Yeah or or whatever it may be and then so I'm not saying it's it's our influence that makes us happen because nobody sees this shit and I because it's unpatriotic like the public is seeing us talk about the week Light Lake we too late. Yeah but yet. The ships happening township Peleton went totally viral viral yesterday. Yeah and you know everyone fucking mom was making fun of that video. And what's wild is we should. We should have promoted that we like we we we gotta live people know that we're not a fucking weekly on this stuff. You know what I mean. Yeah we're like I said before we got our dicks on the Paul we gotta dicks on on the pole. That's a horrible. We got our penises on the pulse. Sounds like Harvey Weinstein would say they'll say that dicks on the Pulse Dick's on the Paul. I don't know man it just it just feels I mean we got. We got our tips on the Paul. Yeah yeah that'd be fingers fingers could be could be your nose. Could your nose to the tip your toes toes on the pulse your toes and I like that. I like that too toes on the pulse because happened again with the with this piss thing. Oh Yeah we all the Peleton bike real quick you no after that came out there fucking their share price dropped nine percent. What yet the shitter? Because it's so funny because the ad was so bad yeah shares it bounce back but it's not like it's not like where it was for. They took a massive hit off. That goofy serves them right. Whatever agency they hired to do that it wasn't in charge of that of fired too far? Yeah yeah definitely yeah yeah you got your host succession get the fuck out you know. What my favorite part of your job a Biz? The part where I get to kick you out get the fuck out of my office. Fuck off fuck off off. Okay Okay Sir show cocaine and my ass and I'm sorry I'm sorry I do. You want to publish something. I'm sorry stuck your toes. It would you like that. I'm sorry to do. You WanNa fix me with a spiked gauntlet. Anything you want it. You're the best getting best. I love you. UH-HUH I love you. Papa you're my favorite pop murph. I love you daddy. Go Wash sessions. You haven't I'm GonNa go smoke some math. I love you daddy adhere anyway this pissing. Yeah so this is this happened like two days ago we just. We just started a trend of Nice. The news is the news capitalizing on on body fluid attack. That's all it is. I don't WanNa talk about this stuff. Yeah we don't WanNa talk about our excrement we don't want to we don't we don't but he don't like today. We're definitely not gonNA talk about ship of any kind now not even diarrhea. No not not. Even I'm I'm talking about like no no hot diarrhea. It doesn't matter what form the shit comes at no doesn't matter if it's hot. Diarrhea the Oregon Law. Yes solid log. For example yeah like you beating Vegan for a while. So you're poops are nice and firm. Yeah now now the firm poem assuming you know. I don't think it makes it the okay all right like you eat Vegan. Yeah you get healthy and Helms it up nice like a lot of fiber healthy vegan shit about it no not no definitely not but piss pace however on the menu it on the menu. This is a this posted on. Ny Post highly contagious. Urine forces evacuation of movie theater showing frozen to Hall of New York. Post is it even real. I don't know I like this website though why it's tabloid I don't know all. Oh Man. Is this the won't read header this fucking. This website is full of shit this website. I won this website is a hot. Diarrhea of a website is a hot. Diarrhea of website can speak anymore. Driver begs men not to jump off a bridge in Brooklyn way possible. You'll get the fuck off the bridge. Be Be Dukes get off the fucking bridge. He knows them. Just do do bro. It is yeah okay. Hey get off the breeze. It ain't it ain't worth the dog. I think about it all the time. Don't undo honking and let's see what he actually said it actually said if this is like even ten ten seconds of a fucking host speaking on closing it it oh go straight to the video boss. You're right what I say. What I say shit loss ask the fuck off? Walk that it's not worth you Man Run me. My bread wrote off the. It's not worth it bro. So have you do. You could change anything in your life as he's driving by like slowly peeling away. This would make me actually actually do it. Anything Bro. Anything to stop man turnaround Bro. You could change anything in your life life anything charter around. It's not worth it turnaround bro. You could change anything in Your Life Damn Dude and it worked. That's crazy it worked. Wow War girly actually kind of like touch me. Spoke spoke to you a little bit because it's honest. It's not boosted. Yeah it's not the rock giving you a speech. It doesn't matter what works now. He fucking got that guy off the bread. Yeah Yeah Yeah Bro. Don't do it. The fog you doin Mimi Donna and my fucking place in Jersey. I give you nice cannoli and Suck Dick. I'll give you some head my head. I'll give you a head full of lettuce. Trust me I can suck some Dick. I've been known doggone good Dick and then while he sucked and as Dick I met a you already diarrhoea tax shit skin that a hand they are. Here's the urine thing. That's the one that gross you out. a package of human urine marked highly contagious forced the evacuation of Washington state movie theaters showing frozen two on Friday everytime highly contagious. Hey just urine urine with sterile ned. Now it's a myth. That's not myth. I love this. I love having the computer urine sterile. Myth Myth you can't cert- your is then it's going to say it's a fucking myth science news dot Org. This is assumed to science news news is not sterile. Even real verified science facts dot net all right. This is how you verify. Exactly actually do not read it but I realized anytime you want any real info or any real link Yep that's unobstructed by adspend Yup or by referral links. You just put read it on Yup. It's incredible it really is. It's the new search engine. Yeah it's crazy. Yeah Damn are you selling. Read it to me right now. Read it. I'm not sure what that is. Not from an urine can be sterile. But in in Wheeler wheeler threes wheelers experience. It's rarely ever is Healthy hydrated I knew cleans their extra external genitalia and discards. The first bit okay. Well then I'm I'm about your blinds messed up sludge to clean your external genitals and mine's fucked. Suppose those year internal genitals clean. Clean the inside of my q tip. Yeah everyone's like Korea. How did you manage to be worse? Wreath real sludge has got to the wars phrase as my rap name. y'All would also also you read roll sludge in his in his bit gang gang you you'd have to make the grammy's music diplo. Yeah Yeah Yeah. UK grime beats but not style that type of be as the most horrible. Wrap your graphic sludge. You re throw slugs. Did you ever listen to Nacro you ever do now. I wasn't like a failure. I think. So yeah I mean I. I didn't listen to like a ton of his music. The He'd feature on tracks I listen every now and then I'll listen to couple of his albums just added curiosity that is like graphic rap really like brutal Budel like like what like like. We're talking just whatever you could imagine what everything do named Nacro reps about you probably going to get some part of it right like remember like those heavy heavy metal bands called like there's one Cannibal Corpse. Yeah no the real the real one was aborted fetus or some shit like that Oh pigs type shit but like as crude as possible. Yeah yes like that. Yeah knickknack row was a yeah go check it. Check it out guys if you want some like graphic rap you know. There's no I've never for her to rap song or song and hip hop and been like this needs parental advisory but macro that as like an adult I was like Disney's parental homeadvisor. And that was like you know that was like in high school high school. I was like damn this. Is this Dr Shit right here. I was thinking there is. There isn't enough rap about fucking dead people. Oh there is yeah. Let's look at Nichols Sogefi right here. That's what rap is missing missing. You know this is a Shitload of it. What are what are his albums called Drugs Death Wrath gory. Days Gory days is one of the islands. I'm like familiar with with a I need drugs sick name the prefix for death. Die The exorcist. She's FRY villains volume one into the notorious goriest The Art of dying the murder. Kill kill album or okay. Yes so you know makes beats too. We can rebel neck. Oh beats while yeah you don't give a fuck did anyways. Yeah Piss piss frozen to a really funny like movie theater to leave your messed up this. That's why I I just don't believe this story WHO's leaving a bucket of P in a frozen to movie. I don't know but this these excrement attacks have to stop. Yeah no more no more subduing it. It's in the in the in. The pupil room tweeted. Oh we got a couple of funny responses someone who sang at our next show. We gotTA run out on stage with buckets saw that I was dying. Just the music plays front rows super excited. Just come out with a construction bucket. They're like no and yellow has stay safe suit. Welcome to the splash zone. Disgusting Man that's been going on you all right you look tired. I'm just tired. Yeah I'm really tired. Yeah I feel it well. I just realized a giant fucking hole my movement. You don't look at my balls. We know we know you put that hole in your pants on purpose. You have to have some decency tall. Call it out rather I need a new pair of pants but if I was reading something this week that I was like Oli faulk entertain the people will look it up. Yeah did not sleep in very much just thinking about global warming. It's been stressing me out actually does fucking stress me out global warming. Yeah often I'm thinking I'm like why the fuck would I ever like have kids you know 'cause they're fucked. Yeah it's so fucked. It actually like it. Does I make a lot of jokes about it but it does concern the shit out of well. It scares the shit out of me. It's like it's legitimately scary. I know I turned on like on spotify. There's like the daily drive. Whoever we can I just say say this? Maybe Yeah Yeah Yeah you did a while ago we can. I say this is how you know. We're like the ability to cope. Is Fading a little little bit because not only the global fuck it we say here talk about Common Piss and Shit ten minutes in on fire and and his fucked up now and it's scary. It's scary man. I think about it all the time. Yeah I just think now how do you at least in La you know carbon footprint is awful and you see it you look at all these fucking cars was one person ars in every car. It's so dumb. Yeah so many of these people are going to the same fucking place and it's it's so useless could have picked you up today. You could have truthfully. You could have as you start doing that. Yeah Yeah Yeah but you know now me out if that because you know what it is brought it up. Yeah I know that it is it is my fault you know this though in. La is no one wants to look like a bum so even having a shitty car is better than riding riding shotgun. Look like a fucking bum. Yeah I got a car I I don't know ride. I can drive myself dry myself bitch. It took the fucking city bus through high school so I don't ever want to be on public transportation again. That's it was a bro that shit it was horrible he will be like yeah. We're going to this place. If they double see there in two and a half hours does any was is so wack because you you like be on it and the place you WanNa go is like maybe three blocks away and like but you can't get off because there's no stop at that pile. Yeah so you just have to watch it through the window and then like just go around the town. You're like yeah hands up against the glass like fogging up the glass uh-huh and all your friends are there by the time you show up. Everyone's Daphne each other up in the parking lot or like what's going on like our relieving hanging for like hours we'll you smell shit to what you just got here. Fuck where you're doing. Here's something that it can happen was week. Was the London Bridge attacks. Oh Yeah Yeah Buddy. A Dude ran at the attacker with a nor wall to us. I just want to say that. Yeah it is fuck members of the public with nothing but a Narwhal Tusk. Lima British thing ever and a fire extinguisher. Tackle a murderous terrorist harassed. So they were like this guy was on the London Bridge stabbing people he kill two people I think fuck off dude and and he was wearing a fake a counterfeit suicide vests. That's not so these guys didn't know that the vest was fake and one of the guys is sprang him down with a fire. Extinguisher has the other the guy is I guess. Jabbing Him Sword Fighting with a win all toast and Narwhal Tusk. Not a bad weapon broke as you know not a bad weapon at all dances fuck and it's long. Yeah so buddy can't get close. I just feel like he was definitely. You know years. haven't T- in some like afternoon tea cafe nearby or something like that and they had like a Narwhal tests on the wall. Because it doesn't sound like something exemplary in this Yes oh British like yeah and a musket or something you know they say this toask USC is actually what inspired Moby Dick Moby. Dick ones on the bridge. Get Adam that is that is the same in world's getting World gained intense. I mean now knife-attacks. It has been a thing in Europe at least London for a minute. Yeah so On a lighter note you know if you've ever felt like you need a little bit of Jesus in Your Life Al Pitcher bt Esa you have. Yeah I always use this people. Think think it's like an accident and it's not gonNA boy. Did you screen shot. Well yes yes. Yeah Oh my God. We know we know. I'll tell you after. Okay all right. It's not we know some. I guess we know someone that that I don't know sure. Okay what the fucking Kevin Bacon Seven. Yes so yes. To sever have written two degrees of separation away from that do or should we not clown. No let's Mercer Dude. First of all these are all your favorite. Tick Tock boys he's right here. This is this. Bts Yeah it is not the other this is like NC whatever Nawaz bts CBS bts Dash Mayor Chichi Dot Com br. I was watching whatever that one's called. NC WHATEVER NC Z.. I don't know there's some Korean band that sounds like it's just like a like a Mac book zero numbers like that. It's Okay C.. Four five. Yeah I mean mean their names have always been crazy like that okay. Yeah but it's like twenty dudes It's crazy though. They get paid even I. I don't know that part blows my mind. I was talking about this. A little bit on stream which is like Cape Hop like budget in general is fucking huge. I don't know where they get all their music. Videos are minimum hundred fifty K.. Two Hundred Label Yep is a with of how much like consumption is really going on there. I mean it's fucking insane it's like it's like Spanish it at the same time Actually Yeah Yeah. They're just they're just add a bigger tier gave out. Groups are always always always kill me. The only ones I actually know is God Damn it no now. That ain't wonder. Girls is a nineteen ten of them in a group like every cave groove. My like my lied that I've ever seen as he has twenty people and the names just get shorter. Yes like the inverse is like a serial number or it's like Oh yeah do you listen. A. T. IT T. H. X.. Thirty three hundred girls. It's a whole high school k Pop uh-huh anyways this is a this is so good. Did so this guy does. He's basically like a kind of like like a motivational type. Dude one of these guys that it's like a self proclaimed Alpha male and he wants to show you how you can have road incredible confidence Yolk. Don't stand up straight. Yeah that is sort of but I feel like it's more of like a More like a meditative like being the right head state eat well like the great man got it that sort of thing got. It's not like by my courses and I'll show you how to whatever it's like it's like sayings things in philosophy. Yeah I think so and looking in the mirror yeah I think so. That's my impression the Thus far I was on twitter like one time one of the advantages of being ridiculously good looking at triggers. Other men into viciously hating you. It a red hot ember pressed into every physical insecurity hence why weapon is my image it. What real like just fucking proofread one? Time before you fire off a controversial tweet this hence why a weaponized my image. I'm assuming he didn't mean to put it into being medically unforgettable forgettable man and then medically offer the best part about it. Is that he posts the most average average fucking selfie. If you if you're GONNA fire off a tweet like that you shouldn't with balking at Kohl's have someone someone edit it like. You GotTa look good is all you have. This shit regulars L. The golden hour in Hawaii or some shit I know he looks extra red to hold on breath too long. Yeah that's like the free dinner you know. He's getting dressed up to go meet his family also vacation. What kills me about this image is like the way he hit the I don't know like what his neck detail so just looks like his head like sitting on like a worm. You know what I mean like. There's no Adam's apple is nothing. It's like two dimensional. Why are you so wet homing and this dude? Looks like the guy from that fucking Sky I room take talk the got the fucking Shit. Yeah you ever think about doing mercy. What did he say twice? What do you want? Yeah Hey hey can I help you. They can pull that off. I can help you with something. Man Definitely looks like he forged steel for six hundred. Silver pieces says yeah. This guy looks like he auditioned for some role. On game of thrones wasn't even close to get you walked in there like no no. They they had to do his agency a favor by even letting him come in the room. This is the city killed Zig. He tells women he's like just walks up to him he's like are. Are you afraid. But my wife is red hot embers burning and the other men. In this room my images weaponized nice medically and it's unforgettable. She's like Oh my God yes it is. Yeah do me now. It's my face it's a weapon. What my face? It's a weapon. Are you threatening me. You see this to legal in thirty nine states. It's the black belt at faces. I have this insured it. Oh my God dude that what kills me also. This dude talks like the architect from the Matrix. Can you go to go to twitter and see if we can the policy we can get a sense of. Yeah well I'm just aren't figuring medically means yeah. I looked mimetic and it just goes relating to to what is it actually practicing sits Mesa's am I am. I'm stupid. Is this wide range of meaning constituent. What constituting I'm I'm an idiot? missus representation or imitation of the real world in art and literature. So what so. It's unforgettable in that it represents what it's a representation or imitation of the real world and art and literature. So he saying so. His face is so good that so you think it's art. It's almost like you remember it as an art piece rather posted something in real life got it. Yeah that's hard as hell dog. Yeah yeah you know what man. I'm a paint you. Yeah I wanna see someone do like a really bad really bad version of you know people just is do purposely bad art like do this guy's face paint and send it to us the exact same shit his fucking face and then and then we'll just you know he looks like he's got this look look that he just like gladiator. Forty eight yeah in some movie you know I guess. In that way it is medically unforgettable bro I turn on the The screen is has yellow nominee. Gets sleepy looking at my fucking AMAC. Yeah go to twitter. This this is. This is another two guys on the on the computer episode Asia Cortes just completely se mentality equals physicality physicality strength masculinity This it's basis killing me to do a man's as no means. Is this shit looking boy looking boy when you die. This is literally what you see here. We should get get him on. The Braga is getting teach us about manliness. And I would. I would do that for sure. Yeah I would do that. Love to talk to this guy. Let's let's see let's threes more tweets. Here men need other men for role models. Woman cannot be a role model for men on how to land at best. She's an anti model the tests and reveals him. I talk about this in depth in today's newsletter. Oh He's got a newsletter Oh you gotta subscribe the students say discover you. I was a skinny distance runner through your programming email list. I learned how to build muscle in and out of the gym. 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G. for ten dollars off. I just wanted to say I've found two youtube channels that I fucking love right now. Okay one of them is called St beefs. What's that it is the best for it is at like sort of like Like different kinds of St. Yes no okay. Yeah it's a future now marlene's it's Mark Twain's Yeah Yeah but just you only eats. Let's meet that guy. Oh man juicy that thing I put on my story the other day of him just slurping down a huge shrimp huge he he takes like oh man. There's no way you get that all in one bite but mark mark that's all occurs and is is a big shrimp bro Aside. I was like mark. What's your at Bro? Ah that was crazy. What you just did write their son really? I mean I couldn't help it. I just covered up the hair. Yeah mark if you're trying to swallow another buddy duct that thing boy at one go. I got this meat for. Yeah Yeah Yeah. And then him and his boy were touching shrimp in the sauce on Alexa than anyone Schramm. That's Yeah Komo also Komo should bre now. St Beefs is it's like a felony fights DVD. But it's not felons it's dudes that WanNa fight organized and and they fight and like dirt ring like it's like like there's an octagon made of chain link fence fight club with wooden wooden boards. Yeah but It's not like it's not bare knuckle. Boxers do it and they may do it street beefs yeah and The dude do hosts it is named scarface and He just refers to himself as face as he has a bunch of scars tale. What I love about his channel though is that he leaves his liked video playlist on full scope of what he's into okay? St Joseph's is like it reminds me of when I that's all I used to do on Youtube was I'd just go on Youtube and type in fight and I would just watch every three fucking. There was a point. I had seen every fight video on youtube. Yeah Kimba slice and Shit like that. I mean just everything okay and it was funny because me and my boys. We like we had seen them all so it became this thing where we just go home every day like refresh. Caesar's like a new fight video we hadn't seen but it gives me that same feel because it's just dude scrapping in the dirt it's crazy and like it also kind of spring one up strife. Yeah Dude I watched just one last night their names because they all their. Here's the other thing fighting. used to be fight videos on the Internet used to be like white white guy versus Mexican always like Hello Racial. This shit is like is the next step all these guys WANNA be. MMA stars tapeworm verse be Dan's. Yeah and they have their nicknames. This full name is tapeworm whom I was crying. Booed Watch this shit they have little intros. P my man's intro. This shit is as hard as ill by the way are also look. There's my just just West Virginia Cody. Oh my God I need that. Ah It's few and salesman Sam Combined Dude. I need that neck tat really gum. And it's fresh as hell Bro. That's sad fresh his elbow on the along. The T shirt line to Oh yeah hard all right what do you think he's about to say after the camera. Yeah if no idea like what do you think's GonNa Shout Elliot's city like just give it a give it a guests What's up it's tapeworm? I'm fighting being today for freedom okay. Tapeworm I wasn't far off. We weren't throat. What did he say? So do I start and then cuts dude these these two look like default characters fucking. GTE So funny. That black widow on his chest and heart is l.. Let's get get it on the background. They're like Wisconsin is illegal. I don't know must be so it's I don't know if it's sanctioned but it's like it's it's definitely dope as fuck taking gone bro that's face yeah Internet browser browse. WE'RE GONNA skip right passes ad is going. We gotta take your down every time. Let me play. Something wasn't saints backyard. No this guy here that jingling no. It's it's outside it's on the bracket that's what it is. Okay yeah sorry. Thank you. All List- commend foyer. Oh my God this his high school gym shorts Yarbrough like they do some of these guys like they take it. You'll see in this one one of we're not gonNa Watch the whole thing but they take it to the ground like in in a Lotta these fights and they're like d'oeuvres fucking grappling in the dirt and you see guy like they're just on their stomach like fighting the he give busy man. This this was crazy. I could not believe why. Wouldn't they put a fucking meltdown. That down or something because part of it. I think it's part of it was kind of why like it is a tough scrap Graf dude so what is the referee. Do actually do they do. Pretty good job. Oh my God. Aw cut it out when we come here. You'll need to go finish that fight dude. I'm telling you these fights you you would think garbage. They're mad entertaining and some on. These guys are actually very good. Yeah very those two guys didn't were they good. I mean I didn't really see the seem like there's much I don't know shit but didn't really seem like there was much technique. They're kind of like fucking they're like. Here's the thing when you compare it to like pro may fighters like Emma make like most guys in the UFC. Like that's that's like the top top tier like you I. I don't think it's like people talk enough about how high level you have to be in the UFC. Okay basically I would look at it like as most guys in the AFC. They're never gonNA run their opponent like that. You know without really knowing what they're doing because like they they have a full fight camp their training a certain way that though that I mean it is like you're trying to feel out your opponent. You're trying to figure out if all that training you did fucking applies right. This is definitely more of a like a brawl where they're just like getting in there. I'm going to beat this guy's ass. I would say that beat ends has decent decent technique because like he's in the pocket and it's very hard to like trade in the population that all right and so he's he's clocking. If you run that back he hits them with like good three for like knockout. Hits like and go be Dan. Yeah the tapeworm gets dropped a bunch of that fight which you gotTa Watch the whole thing. I mean there's four hundred thousand views Emma Dang their star. They're starting to Potman like actually I shouldn't say starting to because for a while now. They've had like videos. They hit a million. But this is what the fucking youtube filing. It'd be this is what is what I mean. That's what's so funny fucking. Yeah Logan Paul in those boys fuck. Headgear and gloves loves stadium in five months. Yeah no it should be you. Someone's beefing do this keeps ring. Yeah do it. Yeah D- ev- every dude in here. I mean even if they lose like I give him props because they fight hard as fuck. Where do you think this is over this? They just didn't California any like in the desert somewhere. This is crazy. Damn what's other Youtube Channel. You said you're into I mean if other people like mentioned him hear bald and bankrupt. What what's that? He's like He's a dude. He got out of a divorce. I think he's like he was literally bankruptcies and a lot of money but he he you try. He has like a travel channel. But what makes his channel really dope and like genuine is not as virtually no editing. It's just like it's just raw footage. And then he he might like cut because like there's nothing going on but the way he travels a super interesting like he typically doesn't use a GPS and he he he can speak Russian and he can speak A little bit of Hindi so like in a he'll go to India and most recently he's going to like Soviet countries or like former Soviet countries. But he for example he went to a city called Kalmykia and the way he got there was he just like rented a the car and he drove a car he he just walked around the town. He's asking people. How do I get to Kalmykia? And then he took a bus there and then from there he heard I heard about some other like small Soviet town or whatever and so he had a taxi driver. Take him to the border of his next town. Drop him off. It's literally like but fog nowhere. And he just did that just to film himself walking across the border and then he hitch hikes to the town. He's trying to get to okay. Okay and like he films all his interactions with people there. He's like he's decently knowledgeable about like where he goes. So you find him I've known about him for a while. I watched like when I was watching mark means and stuff like his videos recommended to me and so I don't know bald and bankrupt. Yeah videos are super interesting to me because like you you learn a little bit of which is cool like but he also goes to fucking weird places. Yeah I think in Kalmykia he was like just walking around and he fucking. He's like he's he goes. I do think I found on Gulag. Like a straight up like gulag-like rushing any like a labor camp and he he walks up to it and then he hard cuts to his hotel and he's like night-time time he's like. Yeah so I almost got arrested. Holy Shit Yeah and so he you know he like I don't I don't think it's bullshit. He was no no reason for him to lie. Travels in in a cool way. It's going if I'm pete like travel content. It's actually different. Yeah and actually cool like. That's what's cool about that. I find cool about yes there. Is that do really cool shit like they. They went the most video was going to the the at least visited country in the world. And it's it's like a country of like a country of like eleven hundred people or some of them and it's this tiny tiny island win. That's going to be one of the first places that doesn't exist in like twenty years oh is an ocean levels. Wow and there's no tourism there obviously there's no there's no. Atm Am. You can't like everything's cash but it's only the cash on the island so I don't know but it's Kinda fascinating even try to get there. I don't know it's cool. I Love Shit like that. Yeah yeah so check those out guys if you if you WANNA fuck. I'm doing after hours. But another channel channel that I've been really into recently is Brent Rivera in fact he posted this awesome distract on his sister. which this dude this is how I look up? How old is now? Twenty twenty one years old and he's still making like middle school to high school content. Yeah yeah it's Kinda like eat away at your your fucking soul part of wants to grow up you know. Maybe I feel like he has so much a part of his life. I don't think it I don't know no I don't think it's hard for him to get his head out of it. Stick Dude actually trying to get the house trying to get to this picture. I here's a good no I couldn't have see I was right. Assist trying to get a fucking pixel differential on the fucking like this is like forty I five pixels and then his head is seventy five. Thank cels man. It's like almost one to one do. Then is there's half the length of his fucking head is okay. I can't thirty eight percent of his head. They're thirty eight percent of his thirty percent year ahead as A. Let's see like dog out his sister which is weird as ill. What's up little hat padded with? Damn you got him. You fucking got him. It's time to get back youth. Try and top this Earth Bang. Bang the auto tune the BANGS Mama's out to roast my sister. It's a Bang Bang. Bang you know man that sentence right there. I'm just saying I think I think this is the wrong side of title right there. If there were words I would never use. Towards a sibling of opposite gender. It would be Bang Bang Bang. It's a Bang Bang Bang there. I'm bout even mean in the context of this song. Only killer odd odd. Why are you eating whipped cream and a video against your sister so weird? My sister pay close attention. When the only reason you're on everybody's nerves command is like ten years late to district leave again? You got to mad late so this is like the classic first I rap song flow. Yeah Yeah I Norman Duffy. They love you but I am. I was born. I always Christian. Francis possesses weirdly specific. Why are you big enough your book my Boy Ben? WHO's like mad popular instagram asks? You wanted to fuck him. Yeah I know you WANNA fuck my best friend. I know you WANNA fuck them. Burn you've got this and you want to fuck my best friend Idiot Idiot Mike Mike. Cool fucking widely popular best friend. WHO's also hot? I would know because he's my best friend and friends. Go for you Weirdo. Ah hopefully literally my best friend. Yeah earn loser. Ship S S Becsey's sees sailing out soon they ship them set it off on their Rivera facing. I'm better lexi eight. This hate this. I hate the way he's talking to his sister. You talked to your sister like this fuck is wrong with you. I'm still I'm still not over the the the thing with the band with Ben. Yeah yeah that's it he's GonNa show these ships them but then he said all over when I bring out the broom. It's like nobody you just. You just made that happen. Yeah yeah the fucking time you just set them up in the song just so you can say that you would make it stop. That's weird. which on the same room to kiss? But you're not gonNA kiss because I'm GonNa be there with the broom big bad older bro. This is just we gotta keep watching it and that'll be disturbingly. Tenny land sometimes overtake your post. Your twenty one. Yeah you're twenty one. Yeah Yeah Handy land be Out Drinking chief liquor being broken the club. Yeah you should be you know saying at twenty one. You should be experiencing facing two hundred dollars in your bank account figuring out how you're going to get. Yeah no you should be out somewhere drinking fucking cheap wine. Yeah chief something. Yeah and and learning how. He's got money dude. Yeah learning how to socialize. It's weird yeah table and a fucking long seriously. He's like that's why I'm doing dissing my sister so I can get a table at fucking encore. Okay yeah all right got it. Yeah I'm bringing candy land. Yeah and we're going to hang out and play board games in the club. Yeah what do they do clubs again. Yeah this is this. I mean. This doesn't dark shaded does just him trying to keep up with who he was way we'd go back Description says this was just for fun. LEXI's literally the best sister so no hate love you lexi comment. LEXI got dissed weird sibling. Rivalry I don't I don't really like this at all. It kind of gives me the creeps a little bit. I can't can't not look at this and think it's fucking normal. Yeah because it's like even like like distract is was to be like you gotta be a hairline looked like Albert Einstein. You know I put your toothbrush in the toilet when he was seven and yes and a pooped on it and and that was due on that toothbrush Zain so literally. UK eat my shit you know like with brush is supposed to be mean and he's talking umbrella and we WANNA fuck my friend. Ben I know you want to look and last thing I know you wanna fuck my best friend. Burn my best friend Ben. You WanNa fuck him honestly. I don't blame you happen. And then while we're on the topic of Youtube Music Watch the ACE families. Yeah we even fucking forget about this. I have to you see this banger alert. How many have five hundred thousand thousand? Okay so this one I mean this one is a little bit better produced than Bris blitz. Should we take a quick second talk about Copa. That's kind of interesting. I don't feel like anyone's really talked about that. The Ad Shit. Yeah Yeah we'll talk about at the end. Okay word word well just on the COPA relates to the ace family. The most interesting way. 'cause they're they're like they're among I would feel like them and I know animation channels are the ones that are immediately afraid but I feel like they should be just as worried. Yeah Anyway we'll talk about it and second exporting. My kids for profit was good. Yeah Ed we gotta go let the mother is this they also spent like probably fifty grand on this video though it will all come to a number afterwards like in Snow White come to me. Let's like a typical horse. Name Balto as a dog. We'll go balto anyway. I love you Balto now. This one's name is whisper. Yeah that's like a proper name. Whisper writer David. Yes Steve James Horse. Allan Oh good Allen for one. Don't lose you 'cause someone. Nobody knows leading fancy clothes. All this is melody. Oh Yeah Man Klaus and fucking individual takes its was one line at a time. They was really really working for this song. Same Shit Basically Vo Code. Or what the Fuck Me Mark Doc. Right I thought he said you could. You could be my call. Girl Bro Hug her do that. Was Stephen Hawking's Talk box right there. Also first of all show. This shouldn't anamour fig but didn't fuck in put it in a sixty-nine ratio video you dumb Fox God damn this and you could leave it this way. But it's not. You know. Probably not them that did that. It's probably whoever they edited to the people that don't of Youtube me. My girls say me for that. Big fucking in a missing girl shameful. Brian Breath Dude. Like this was just fucking crafted. Yeah for Tick Tock. Yeah just like down to the fucking second man and all this choreography. Everything is just trying so fucking transparent. Erin yeah kids see through shit. Do Yeah this this does not resonate now and it's secure way too late on the fucking old town road shit. Yeah yes doing. Yeah I mean the song or he got like fifteen remixes yeah everyone already did. They're fucking country shit. Yeah everybody moved on the whole country country ref the next big thing that moved on already dead as also like this has just. This has like high quality songwriter. All over it. Yeah like these words are are so like generically like or like just so universally appealing. Yeah like everyone can relate to these words. Yeah you know you see eighty something. That's just kind of like just overproduce in every regard. Yeah there's just teams behind everything. Yeah but there's no like almost like no vision it's just like not fucking can chuck horse in their Country Right Horse Cool. Yeah awesome looking wardrobe. That's where they went. Cheap was on the wardrobe vans and Fergus. fur-collared Jean Jackets Way. There is nothing I would change. It'll get away. Why don't we start? We don't I hate this shit. It sounds so like it sounds so Like not from them. Yeah now I'm watching a fucking ad. That's what I'm saying. It's over the yes over the note and does nothing genuine about just so obvious. It's not it's not a bad song like no the song fucking professionals wrote this. Yeah but that's why I hate hated. Yeah it just feels like like nine people got in a room like this to me is the same as fucking You know when they had what's his face from game of thrones owns rapin Busta rhymes shit. Yeah doritos commercial. Is the same vibe to me. It also like it's really. It's just really really hard for me to fuck with the ace as family just because like everything they do. Content is is centered around the fact the rich everything. Yeah is that the rich everything they do now is is is anchored on the fact that they're rich and it's like how can anybody fucking like get behind that you know I don't I don't get that at all because it anyone else gets the fucking gets torched for that you know they get so much criticism like rice. Come in the phase guys and Jake Paul and like every youtuber. They're like has money and like flexes it. It's like you're a piece of shit like you don't deserve it as wild that they're so blatant about it and there's like this majority group of people people that is like yeah no right there. I love it I know I don't I don't understand who is. Is it just kids at people that want to have this life is that mostly. WHO's watching them? Jesus Christ due to dance breakdowns in the middle of the Shit. And they're both what they. Aarp fifteen seconds. Probably exactly. I bet you the first Yeah Yeah also what what is there spotify name for Austin Austin mcbroom and ace fam- or the should starts at one fifty one call one fifty two on the C word ends. Yeah it's gotTa end you like to Oh sevenish to oh seven ish and asks. That's way longer wait longer. That was fifteen seconds. Now it's like twenty five but say they're just trying to make it stick. Nick key planning will turn the volume up on our. We're GONNA fucking copywriter for this. Yeah no we would. Just we'll just kill the track in the okay. Yeah Now go listeners. Foggin Horse Shit Song literally. How much do you think this video? This video looks relatively of achievement. I'm saying wardrobe looks like it's H Nm's almost almost say wardrobe was like Max five eight hundred bucks a one day or you get this video for like five to seven K.. Easy Yeah Easy Yeah Fair enough. I don't see them. I don't see them yeah. I don't see them doing a two day video shoot to now. They got money to make do well. I mean so back to the COPA thing for those. You don't know word maybe don't give a shit is this is not interesting I think is interesting I think it is. I just feel like stuff like this happens on Youtube and people love to like blow out proportion like this is the end of Youtube. It's fucking bad for everyone but it always ends up being not as bad. Has People think one hundred percents being youtube is definitely like thought this through more than people generally have I feel like Oh yeah I saw him. I'm not I'm not fully educated on on what it means. I just know that like animation channels and stuff are going to be yes Like taking a hit for no reason basically kind. When does that? Yeah I mean so basically like Google losses loose loose lawsuit with the F.. FCC and basically Google Kinda got nailed for fucking like circumventing like all the laws you know like I guess how how. Advertising Lisa Children Yahoo Athlete at the two minor standing as they say you assholes you you can't do that you can't collect data on kids and then target get them. Yeah Yeah and you can't sell ads to him. You should heads. Yeah because you can't do that on. TV's he doesn't do that on the Internet even though you kind of can do it on TV because kids channels have kid targeted ads. They They they're not collecting data on kids though. They're not collecting data on kids but like even adds to kids was was last time. Like you've heard of a toy commercial now. Those are definitely around. Are they. Cause A. I'm GonNa say who someone I know that works with ad trafficking they It's not that you can't buy ads on kids channels. But it's like the types of Angie can buy are very specific like like you like back in the day when when you saw those ads of kids like playing with toys and Shit. I don't think that's legal anymore. Okay you know you might see ads on kids channels but like this person. I know that works in AD trafficking. They never consider like Nickelodeon or cartoon network or anything. Because they know they're not going to be able to get the ADS placed there. Okay so whatever basically with Copa Um now if you make kids oriented content you can't. You're monetization is like drastically reduced. It's not like zero. You'll just make significantly evidently less money. So it's like ads can still be placed on kids content but it's like very few kinds of ads that's and in the end. The thing the bad part about this is that is that youtube is basically putting the responsibility on reiter the crater not youtube anymore to determine what's a kids channel and what's not right and so basically now a channel says that they aren't but the FCC comes along and determines that they are collecting data on children or their targeting golden basically. Yeah and they'll find the crater and not youtube so people are potentially at risk of getting fined like tons of boards of fifty grand just because they made a video that the so-called was aimed at children something along those lines. Yeah the the language they use is it is is the content kid appealing. Yeah which is like messed up for people ledoux anime animation or whatever that might not necessarily have swear words in it or even forming or game yet gaming stuff like gaming everyone watches gaming kids. Love Gaming was so to adults so is it. Is it kate appealing. Do you make kid videos if you make It's it's very ambiguous as a problem I think but the reason why. Why bring them up? I don't think Youtube is necessarily dead in the water but I do feel like that. They were like part of the AD Platform was like sustained off of cashing in off off of all these kids watching content and they're selling ads targeted ads on these videos with crazy engagement. Yeah the business takes a little bit of a hit in that regard like I'm sure will we see the effects of it probably not GonNa let you to die. Yeah but I think it's definitely going to change you. Tubes like business strategy okay faulk. We're taking off the kids shit for like five years. Yeah now the fuck are we going to do. Like I'm a question they ask but if anything I says Oh that the FCC this is my wet dream that they go through a backlog and then it's alphabetical at the top is ace family. Then they go. Oh yeah all. This shit is kid appealing and their marketing to kids a Shitload Shitload So yeah you're fucking Pay Up Mother fuckers. I mean if anyone's Fox Jake Paul. 'cause recruiting children for. Yeah it was like yeah. That shit was fucked that whole nerd city video but how he's literally like advertising to children for the vast majority of his content. Yeah Yeah it's pretty shocking. So that's that's where that's what I wonder is people like that or even fucking collins key. Yeah those video though. You are a super kit eight of young yeah all's bright colors him acting like a five year old like what happens. These guys like him to are they gonNA get fucking nailed like backlogged like. Oh you've just made how. How much money doing this type of shit? Nah Boom you know. What's funny about Youtube? Is that like they have these. Like gold rushes. Yeah these phases where people focus on money doing one thing and then someone figures out that it's kind of messed up and cuts it off yet. Like I just feel like people that were making. You know the normal videos like six years ago k-k-keeping yet or eight years ago. Yeah I think like fifty grand a video. We're going to them. And then they were like okay. Well now we gotta figured targeting and and whatever and so people and then like we got an right after the Ad Pacalypse Joe when people started not making any money and now like you know. Look Ryan's toy reviews reviews and shit that was like most lucrative channel on Youtube. I'll probably not at all. No no that's just gonNa Crater so just wonder like what the next book and wave is and we gotta get on that ship walk. Maybe it's this. Yeah fucking Giddy up. Maybe I don't know man I just I fucking hate the whole will as family like they're just using kids for content that should is so garbage. It's like trash. They're making millions of dollars to what the fuck and flex I mean. Yeah I don't I don't think that like family. Blogging is necessarily a bad thing like I I know that it. It is kind of messed up on the kids because they think it's weird they can't use I don't I don't think there are a lot of families that really resonate with that content like tons of Fuckin- MOMS I love watching and dad's love watching like other families do shit right. Yeah maybe I don't know I don't know actually. I liked that if people if people watch the ace family because they eh aspire to have family like that or because they do that but the thing about their content. It's not about family. It's about being fucking rich. Yeah that's that's what it's about. It's so funny too because like I'll say having a conversation over the weekend about like like what I think we're talking about like like athletes like burning all their cash. Yeah and my buddy was like dude. He's a couple million properly managed. He's like Deccan last you so long Like he's like people just don't they just don't understand like living like keeping things the same as like income gross. Yeah you know it's like if they just keep things as saying they can just live off that interest and it's like they're good ebbing just retire early. Yeah but and it's just fun. It's not fun. No but like a horse music video for the baby got a horse music video free to bb good whisper. That's my boy Alagoas. Inland boy. Alan I just think that they're I mean they're making a fuck load of money now but like to maintain their lifestyle. Yeah see where they're at in a couple years years and yeah I don't know they're interesting because they are really rich. I mean they're fucking houses insane and yeah but they own it or they purchase it. They bought it. I mean I Owned or rented they bought it at that house but like what silted actually. Yeah but what's bought a thirty year mortgage you're paying crazy interesting to pay cash for that fucking in house. Maybe that houses has to be like what ten has be ten million. Yeah I don't know who even even gives a fuck. Fuck their money they suck. I don't care if he's this I don't care man they they fucking blow I just I just don't understand it I just don't I don't get it. I don't get who watches videos. Jason is like yeah this is my shit. Yeah I don't either. Let's watch the Olivia J.. Cute US speaking of money. Speaking of what money money can buy this video. I mean look this full disclosure. I watched it. Yeah me too. I watched it hundred got equal. That's it's weird is five hundred sixteen thousand one hundred sixteen thousand dislike never seen that screen shot at stake for the archives. Yeah just for the our coast. Look look at this art in the background things subliminal message freedom myself because I am my own so I this as you know if you don't know who this is this is this is. US's number one student. Rowing rowing recruit rowing recruit. She Road the shit out of her fake degree. Ho Off today she was. She was a youtuber and so she didn't pose for for seven months after her mom went to jail. And all the shit happen and now she's back and so this is her back again. Video high again hiring. Many Olivia Ed Jade. Welcome to know it. Was You I to my youtube channel. Obviously I've been gone. Welcome back implies You've been waiting very long time. Yeah I mean like people are just have like a burning desire for a live be a jade content for her drop new vid for a really long time and as much as I wish I could talk about all of this really hard for me to say mistress because I know that it's something that needs to be addressed. It stressed unfortunately which also wide didn't know exactly when I should come back to you to do but I never understand the sitting on the floor filming. Yes I am comfortable. There's like to sit on the bed. So somwhere normal something natural and but the reason for that is just 'cause I'm legally not allowed to speak on anything going on right now. A part of me is like should I come back to you to right now. 'cause I it's been so long and I actually really really miss it like I genuinely Miss Filming. I if you like a huge part of me is just not the same because this is something that I'm really passionate about something I really liked to do. Doesn't it sucked up something something you're really passionate about ripped away from you. That's thanks right. Yeah but I also didn't know I debated for I perhaps a single opportunity to better your life gets taken away from you and given to someone else. WHO's a rowing recruit you earn rowing recruit? So you don't get your chance seven or eight months like well if I can't talk about. It is appointing coming back and not being able to say anything. I WANNA come back because I want. Come back there's no point in me just talking for ten minutes of the camera about how I wish if I could say something when I really can't leave it at that. Thank you so much for your patients or if you stuck around for nine months just waiting really appreciate it. This is the best yes I can do and I wanNA move on with my line not trying to be in a selfish way so hard because I'm not trying to like make this about me or like how I've been because the point of this though I'm terrified to make this video into come back. I know that I also WANNA start taking smaller steps in the right direction for people that have been damning asking me all the stories. I've the moral of the story so much and I'm just really excited to start filming again. Industry uploading it. I really hope you enjoyed about. It's funny that's that's the future blog. Sorry nervous that's like the hardest fucking comeback video ever dislike legally. I can't say Shit but I'm back and said that she said two minute she said I can't talk about it. Sorry Yeah but guess what tough Shit Shit. I'm coming back pack like it or not. She's like I'm doing this for me. Yeah she's like she's the six nine white girls. Yeah yes I'll make blogs make all videos me. It's funny because everyone clicked on that video. Holy Fuck what you're going to say about the whole situation. Sorry can't talk about it. Not a was the top com legally not allowed allowed. But I'm back. She's achieved the balance in the forest with the like dislike ratio. Do A lab with felicity. Huffman daughter. Yeah tell US tutor next video how to get into college. Oh yeah my first time rowing. She just doubles down rowing training. High Getting Ready for a big Rowing Competition this weekend. Oh my God what if it was all like subtly like just backhanded like like she did like a workout blog. But it's the whole thing is her in a room and she's like I love dish machine. Some people think I can't do this for some reason and I'm more than capable of rowing fucking asshole. I can row. which have you seen? My mom is the full Haussmann. WHO's her mom? Every mom is. I forget Olivia Jade Mom Luigi Laurie. Laurie Lori Law would she went to jail right for two weeks or felicity. Huffman goes felicity Huffman. Laurie Laughlin sentence fifty five years. Damn she got face hats sentence. Three life sentences sixty two million dollars. Restitution Payments Whoa Faulk Damn Jesus Lori Laughlin concerned by hefty hefty sentence for parents who pled guilty. Oh there was another one off. Go Fuck Let's see I gotta go do you do. Yeah I gotta get back to my dog. He's hungry all right. Wait wait. Let's see how how much time does full got toby McFarland for first of all six months once she said hefty is six months bids. You should hope you get six fraud. Isn't it yeah got charged on dude. Well get Outta here hefty prison sentence. She's afraid she's going to get eaten out. Jesus Christ the too much sorry. It was too much Lord This this was definitely a computer episode. Damn no but these these are so much fun to do. It feels natural. Yeah I never know man I feel like people want to be like an hour of like Zinger stand up. Dude are fucking videoconference. 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Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan

Beam Me Up: A Star Trek Podcast

1:44:32 hr | 11 months ago

Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan

"Final frontier concern. This is about saving humanity. This the huge victory guides gladys action is not emotion famous. Aw Welcome to another episode of Beam me up a star Trek podcast. I'm Brent Allen and I have seen every episode of Star Trek Multiple Times and I met Sonnenburg and this my first time through this series and this is the show where each week Matt watches a key episode of Star Trek for the first time and then attempt to figure out why star trek is as important as it is to society and to pop culture as a whole. My job is to guide him from episode to episode. And make sure he's getting out out of each one just what he needs in order for him to get beamed up into the phantom. Today's episode. Well it's not an episode. It's a movie a feature length. Thank watching the theater much popcorn movie. This one star trek to the wrath of God for those of you who may not have watched this if you before listening to this podcast and if you didn't why this is the one where Khan comes back. You know that guy from that one episode that we did that one time about eight weeks ago or so the one where Kirk and his crew come across a two hundred year old space capsule with frozen bodies of a bunch of genetically engineered tyrants from Earth's past try to take over the enterprise but then Kirk beats them and leaves them. Marooned went on a planet and spock says he'd be interested to revisit them and see what happened to him. Well that's what this movie is about. We revisit them and see what happens to him. He gets his wish when Chekhov Cov who is now serving aboard the US reliance and his captain captain. Terrell beamed down to a deserted planet looking for a place to test out a new tariff warming project called Genesis US win suddenly. They're ambushed by Khan and his crew and with a little mind control l.. Con Takes over the reliant and flies off to find Kirk and exact his revenge he you decide to use this genesis project. Who are kirk to him and hey just so happens? The genesis project is headed up by an old flame of Kirk and her son await. It's their son son. That's right Kirk said Daddy. A bunch of space battle stuff happens and plot happen seriously. You need to watch this movie. But ultimately con is mortally wounded and he manages to activate the genesis device just in time for himself which will wind up killing everybody and everything around including this disabled enterprise and all of its passengers. So spock does the only logical and not logical thing he could do sacrifices himself to save everyone and get the wardrobe going again so they can fly away before genesis does its damage but not before doing a quick mind meld with Dr McCoy and telling him to remember. He wonder what that's all about as the enterprise away in the credits roll spock's coffin softly lance ever so gently on the newly created Genesis Planet Matt Star Trek to the wrath of Khan. He didn't even see star Trek. One in that's okay. Jim Kelly it gives us your first reactions to this movie. What'd you think? I it even though like I thought I knew the characters that we're going into this with There still some surprises and a lot of new faces line faces. Yeah Yeah It it helped my attention okay along enough at least okay fair enough fair enough. We'll and we'll get into this but I I'm I'm really interested in and I don't know if you want to save this to later. Maybe we ought not too but I mean wrath of Khan Is for a lot of a lot a lot. A lot of truck culture people say this is the Best Best Star Trek movie that was ever make all the way up to including the new ones including all the ones that next generation is gonNA make they'll make a few as well This is this is considered like the key touchstone. I will say just from a pure pop culture standpoint which is one of the main reasons why we have to watch US outside of this means so much in the FANDOM This is the one where we get a lot of pop. Culture references and a lot of pop culture touchstones that that and they're seeing in all sorts of various movies and in other media throughout time. You'll start picking up on it now that you've seen shirlow but so there there's a lot of that but you mentioned a lot of new faces faces Yada we talk about some of the notable cast that have come up in this particular episode before we get into your kind of recap of taking us through the movie first things first all of the original cast is back now. I don't know what film cover you had. But the one that I had and I I saw it because I mean I think like three times before tonight's The the photo that I had is of all of the original cast and every single one of them are looking very seriously into the camera except for George Takei. I like Sulu who is off on the side and just big old cheesy grin smile but everybody else is too serious and focused. And he's he just looks like he's happy to be back he he didn't get the message. Yeah Yeah so anyway all the original cast back and you know what we talked about every single one of these through our run of us. So I'm not going to talk about these guys anymore. Let's talk about some of the new faces that you mentioned. Bb Bash and merit boo trick. Not Names really necessarily have to know but you should know their characters they play Carol and David David Marcus okay. which for those of you? Don't sure that is spock's old flame and their son now. BB was cast. Because she had that look of someone who might he could have fallen for Kirk the big womanizer from fifteen years ago or more but she was also super smart and independent and strong enough in her own merit to be able to handle handle a guy. Like Kirk Right. So that was that was kind of her her her merits the guy that was that was kind of her the big casting in her mirror on the other hand The guy who played David Marcus. The child of Caroline Shat Merit was cast well because of his hair matt his hair hair. Okay and really. It's because it was blonde like bb's Shatner's so there's the lovechild Amalgam. Oh Gosh that could be their child and he is the one who gets cast in that role interesting. Yeah Yeah Paul Winfield is here. He is a familiar face. As I don't know if you recognize them at all Matt but I certainly recognize them and I gotta be honest. I should have probably looked up. What other movies? He was actually an. I can't think of any off the top of my head but I know he's been in a ton the movies through the eighties and nineties. Maybe even the early two thousands. I'm not entirely sure But you know I always thought like this was a really cool thing because we had we talked. It's a lot through our run of the original series of her being a African American officer on the bridge of the starship like how big that was and here. We have Paul as in African American who is not just an officer but he is the captain of his own starship and I always thought that that was a big thing but turns out. That had nothing to do with it. Star Trek was trying to make a political statement and casting him as the captain. It was simply because the director Nicholas. Meyer just wanted to work with Paul Winfield. That's it. He thought he was a great actress. I just wanted to work with them. said he had no reason to cast them outside of. I wanted him in my film. That was a so now too that credit according to Meyer scenes like the whole earworm earworm the remember that That scene yeah like he knew even then the effects were a little corny like you know technology. Their budget and technology wasn't and Wouldn't allow them to do everything they needed to do by. He felt that Paul's performance in those scenes more than made up for whatever cheesy effects. They had that it really helps to sell those scene so Yeah at least. He felt he was justified in writing bringing in Paul for his performance. A girl's name. I always get it wrong. It's either Christie or Kirsty. I WanNa say it's Kirsty. I think this one's curious kirstie alley joins the crew as Lieutenant Savic or Mr Savic. Yes or whatever. We'll get to that. I asked especially when we get there right now because I have answers I knew you would Kirsty obviously she's most well known for her role on cheers of very famous Sitcom through the eighties. But you guys haven't watched. Here's it's worth it's it's really good. I think cheers holds up very well even today but that's me but I'm kind of old now. I guess showing my age but I tell you where I really know her are from. That is the look who's talking films. Okay that's where my mind goes when I think of Kirstie Alley this movie. Though however was her first feature film role I noticed I In the credits. So is introducing a was that okay interesting. Yeah Yeah Yeah. This is her first feature film role and something that it was never said in the film but it wasn't like the character description that's like at the front of the script and it might have even been mentioned in like a deleted scene. She is not just Vulcan. She says says she is a by species. I guess biracial character. Much like spock Sandwiches my question. which is which is partly why spock like was was he really wanted to take her under his wing she was actually half Vulcan? Half Rahm interest was was her deal so apparently alley really really loved. Spock as a child and wanted to be spock so when she got to play this role she was very very attached to her ears. This you had in this role and she would take them home every night and just had like a drawer full of these ears because they you know they give them new ones every day. So there's that all right that's the cast. Let's talk about some people. Maybe whose names you saw. But you didn't necessarily see them on screen. I'm just really too. I I WANNA talk about here Harve Bennett Harbin at joins the the literally the crew of the film Not The enterprise. He is brought in as a new producer for the film. Because Star Trek mark one was headed up by gene. roddenberry had a kind of a mediocre reception. It made enough money to get a sequel. It was a box office success but it was really kinda panned by the critics it. It was very slow plodding. It was very thick. It went way over budget and and to be honest. There's a reason we're skipping star Trek One Matt And you don't need it for anything that happens today. Change US movie Gene Roddenberry did write a script for a sequel to that movie that would have involved the crew going back to the guardian of forever and traveling to the past to prevent the assassination of J. F. K. O. K.. Yeah that was that was going to be what Star Trek to was actually about according to Gene Roddenberry Eh they kicked gene out of the role or actually really upstairs as it would later be known as a consultant role and they hired Harve Bennett to come in. And kind of take control of the film star Star Trek One had an out of control budget and came in several different numbers but anywhere puts it between thirty five and fifty million dollars for star Trek one which is really big back. Then they asked Harvey about he said he could make five movies for that much Well he did this one for twelve. Okay which is really small budget right Even back then that was still small budget There's there's one problem with him. He had never before watched any star Trek So he did actually even more than what you're doing that. He sat down and watched the entire run. Like that was that was a part of his deal all otter and he decided that his big thing was what Star Trek one lacked he wanted in in star trek to was a really good villain wanted a good villain focused on a villain and I would say he at least succeeded in that he sits down and writes a script and then a few others came in and they wrote some scripts and a few others came in and they wrote some scripts and all the scripts. And eventually HARV HARV. Hires a guy by the name of Nicholas Meyer to write a script and eventually direct the film. Now Nicholas Meyer. Let's talk about him which this is a name you should know because he he is even as we record this today he is still involved in track all right so so this will be his kickoff point when he came in he was not a trek fan at all in fact he had never watched a show in fact what he believes that he brought to the film was a healthy disrespect for star Trek. There are things didn't know he didn't care about. He was just wanting to make could good film and he wasn't looking for all the political things You know kind of all that stuff so As part of his script he read all of the scripts that had gone previous to him and he basically pulled out all the elements that he liked and incorporated them into his screen elements. Like that's where the character Savitt came from was from another script Kirk having a son that came from another script con returning. That came from another script. Even spock's death in this film came from another scrip so there was that now one of the things Meyer also also wanted. was you want everything to look more nautical so thus a lot of the things begin to add in like the different things even the uniform if you notice their new uniforms. Oh Oh yeah. I'm sure we'll talk about those. It was the idea was to bring them into a more Nada. Coal feel So that's one of the things that they had had with. Nicholas Martin Nicholas. Meyer would go on to direct the film and he would continue to be involved in Star Trek down the years. So I've got a whole list of other production notes that have to to do with the actual film itself but man I'm going to save those and see if they don't come up over the course of our conversation and at this point I've been talking for way too long I'm GonNa turn the show Over to you my friend take us through this movie. What stood out to you? What questions you have along the way take us through star trek to the wrath of Khan as you saw for the the very first time all right well? I'm going to add one more named year list. Okay James Horner you know who that is. Who wrote the score to the film Daria Gown? James James Horner is top ten. If not top five in my all time list of composers that I love. Yeah I like you know a lot of his work. Even if you don't know that you know at right so let's just put it out there So I was glad to see that but I I actually had a thought before his name popped up like we were sitting there with the opening credits and stars were just ever so gently moving him and his big fanfare opening. And I'm like all right. You could have ship flying by or something or Y- you know. The the music did not not feel like it coincided with with what we're seeing on the screen am I right. Who wrote this? Who wrote it? Oh would have expected a little more from you but I think he wrote this fantastic piece and and you know I. I don't know if his director producer whatever who who piece together other and Dad we're just GONNA put the opening credits here. Yeah so they're just a little note and I don't know if this makes you feel any better And I might be misunder- this under misunderstanding. The way the story goes but apparently I don't know if they just didn't have a person who scored the film from the beginning or if they had one they fire that personally went and got James Horner. Basically the movie was already shot edited and what they called locked in before he began scoring the film and so like like there was they let him see it. Well I I don't know there's just pieces where like they you know. He was writing the music. Nick and here's the film and they didn't cause a lot of times like they can edit the film like it's not locked in they can edit it to hit the crescendo. 's and the different things As the score goes through because writing the score is very much a piece of art right. Yeah I mean the the rest of the movie fine I it was just that open and it's like okay. This doesn't seem like if it's okay. Sure so I. I don't know I I do know what you're talking about very much. I very much yeah I don't know how much that had to do with this or if that might be contributing to your feeling of I guess dissonance there anyway So they they proudly introduced that we're in the twenty third century and I honestly don't know are we had been watching previously. Is that also in the twenty twenty third century. Yes twenty three. So specifically the year as we were watching N. T. O. S. was about like the twenty to sixty. Okay okay now. They had never up till at this point given us an actual date. It was just star day. It was a couple of hundred years in the future. It's not until we get to this point where we actually start are able to coincide side. They're dating system with our current dating system to nail down where they really are So yeah there. There are about two hundred years or so into the future. Sure Twenty to sixty s for the for the series. We're now at about the twenty two eighties. Okay said that kind of I was wondering it's like I guess. By the time we got to the end listened. And we're talking now yeah when is like Yeah Kirk Maroon me fifteen years ago by that point. I can assume that you know this is the same timeframe here But right at the beginning of Mike twenty-third central. That means nothing to me right. I'm trying to place his film but it means nothing to me. All right Well it hasn't happened yet. Yes so yes. So we open with on the bridge the series captain. WHO WHO? Who is this person? I don't know any female captains right. What's going on here? Apparently things have changed. Yeah she's a little young. Yeah eventually I mean the strange part is like I do know some of the crew right or or at least what I think is the crew like I. Obviously things change very quickly once we find out you know. Let's going on. Yeah let's just kill everybody in the first five minute everybody that I know. Just kill them off in the first five minutes and you know start. Fresh sure that works right. I don't see as being good movie after that. But Okay Eh. So yeah we find out that it's just like the simulation and it's actually something. We've talked about a little bit before the Kobe. ASHMAN RU Kobayashi. Yes which is for people who haven't followed the show? The Kobe Schumer is a test. That starfleet cadets take Who are aiming for command? And it's supposedly an unwinnable test NOWHERE CHARACTER BUILDER SO I. I'm I'm not confusing this like we. We have heard about this before in the original series. No okay so was this. First Instance of it we yes. This is the very first instances. This is the first time that Kobe Shamir has ever come up. Okay you and I have talked about it though Matt on an answering tales episode where somebody wrote in talking they were talking about the sitting on the edge of forever episode. Where Kirk goes back in time and he has to let the girl die that he absolutely is in love and then what the email it said was? This is Kirk. Kobayashi Meru it. That was his no win situation and I kind of explained that a little bit too. Yeah now I'm like I. I've heard about it from one of the new movie that that I've seen you. Did you all see I keep wanting to let you go ahead and watch that because there's so much there's and I've got words for people who disrespect J.J. Abrams films homes. Because there's so much in those films that you will now understand with a much greater appreciation share. I will and like. It probably probably doesn't help that. I don't remember everything that happened in that movie right like bits and pieces soon. Yeah so we will get to that film just not yet. It'll be a while al before we get to those films For certain reasons but Yeah it it's I can't wait to get there and go through those with you to talk about some of that. 'cause we see and that film. We actually see kirk his Kobayashi Meru which is a kind of a subplot. I guess of this movie of what actually happened with Kirkman. Well Yeah Yeah I mean they keep bringing it up but like even makes a joke about it. It's like you like you can ask me what happened. Like I'm not gonNa tell you right. Hey you know what I always like to you. Ever see a pirates of the Caribbean the first movie with Johnny Depp. And you get to the end of the film like they're up there like reading off his list of crimes and every once in a while like he'll he'll laugh and go. Oh yeah that one like I feel like that's Kirk thinking about the Kobe humor like Oh yeah ah yeah I did that. Yeah Hey I wanNA talk about the Kobe shoe just for a minute on a on a production note level so jumping ahead at the end of the film. Spock dies right. Yes spoiler big big spoiler. I honestly that I mean we'll get to it but that was a surprise for me. I'm I'm surprised I heard about that so I wanna I wanna I wanNA talk about that because Leonard Nimoy. I think I'd mentioned to you like he was having trouble. Getting out from the shadow. Shadow of of spock and he wrote a biography just a couple of years earlier. Saying I am not spock. That he tried branching out tried Branson well. He was done with spock he was done with this whole thing and he wrote it into his contract that his character had to die in this film right because he was he was he was he meant to be done with the character at this point and yeah and word got out word leat that sparkling die in this film and Oh by Matt the outcry from the public something else now. I was like to to when this happened so I don't actually remember it. I'm just relaying. The stories I've heard So they actually wrote in the Kobayashi Meru at the beginning ending of the film. So that you mentioned some of the crew is the same and everybody seemingly died so that spark could die at the beginning of the film. Everybody everybody walking in who knew spock died. See that and go you jokers. You got one over on US okay. Let's just enjoy the rest of the film. So that when we get to the end and the actual death it would have even much it would preserve impact even for the people who were spoiled To that but Yeah I was Kinda like that. That was that was the deal. They're co Yeah so uniforms yeah everybody we see up up front they're all wearing red. Yep and and okay yeah they have little like ribbons and pins and badges and different stuff. That I'm sure. Probably differentiates them. If I pay close enough contention they do. I'm not paying close enough attention. I liked the colors way to okay. Yeah yeah well. It's it's like I said Meyer wanted wanted to go to a more nautical feel. He wanted to bring everybody more into a standard uniform. Yeah kind of in the way that the actual military does the military. Everybody's kind of the same aimed just whatever's on your shoulders or collar. You're you know you're you're the ribbons on your chest or something. That's what differentiates you and that was part of it now. You wonder why they went with red. Wine lives actually. They did a screen test and they had three different dyes and the colors. Were like the ones that look the best were like gray. And one was like a blue or brown or something like that and then there was the start code red and he went. I like the reds with him like there weren't like bringing everybody into the into the The engineering color or something like that. It was it was and again this goes back back to the idea of Nicholas. Meyer did not respect star Trek. Yeah it's not that he just wasn't a disrespect that's what he's it was a healthy disrespect like he just just didn't care about those things he didn't care about all of that stuff. He was trying to make the movie that he wanted to make and he was given permission to do it. So Okay Yeah He. I'll put this out there. I'm hoping that doesn't stay around long. Okay if at all the Kazan would we do get engineering once. I think that's who mostly mostly was with in the white. Yes yes which was a little bit of a carryover because the uniforms changed a little bit in the motions. Yeah but their uniforms in particular I. Ah They felt they felt very alien like it felt like something we would see a you know a different race on a planet they were Eh visiting. It felt like something they would be wearing. Not something that you'd see on starfleet member. Yeah Yeah Yeah I mean we. We didn't first movie. So Ah we didn't have that conversation about how they change the uniforms. But I think if this if this is wages a lot of your stuff I always like to relate the conversation about the KLINGONS. Now you saw the Klingons in the original series you also have a knowledge of what Klingons are supposed to look like right like with the head bridges and all that kind of stuff like seen pictures of it. I assume at The KLINGONS were the big bad guy in the first movie. In fact we're KLINGONS. Were the big bad again. The first movie and when they appeared on screen in the first movie they now had all this new makeup camp okay. They had their uniforms look different. They had the new makeup. And all this and everybody was like. Oh those aren't cleaning KLINGONS. Don't look like that engine. Roddenberry came out like he was asked about and he would say something to kind of quit. He's like well could be it's a it's a mysterious sect of Klingons that we never saw before or it could be this over here. He's like or it could be. That's what the Klingons were always supposed to were supposed to look like. We finally had the budget to be able to make them look like that. And that's honestly the real answer like this is how he always invented the Klingons. They just couldn't do do it back then. Now they can and and I don't know if that same idea carries over to the uniforms and things like that like or even like because as you notice the Inter we haven't got to it yet but the enterprise looks different insiders inside inside the inside bridges completely. Different engineering's completely. Different like all that stuff is completely different and they established tablet in the first movie that the entire ship went through a year and a half long refit. That's their explanation for. That doesn't bother me as John Really. I really chip yeah. That doesn't bother me so much. He was just like Oh. It's a movie got new set. Is that all that that's not to say. Having new uniforms performs changed all. You want the same enterprise but it got it. Okay okay like I writing up the the the interior the ship. It's a bigger budget. We're going to build a new. We're going to build new sets. Okay go the uniforms though. Like they changed. The rules was that we had already already knew already established right what we know these things we know who wears blue who wears the gold who wears the red and so like if if they had changed the style of the uniforms and kept the colors. I would've been okay with it. Okay but like I have the the these the Ed how would you feel if like they added new colors meant different things or even just shuffled all the colors around like. Would you be okay with that. As long as they had the different color conventions and or like. Hey it would take some getting used to but I might be moral K with it. Okay but I mean just it's the fact that like I mean I I it was set up this way you know by the creators of this series right. I understand now our military is this way that that's type of thing but like this. Isn't that right like this is built for entertainment purposes and so in the future hundreds leads viewers from now. We've decided to differentiate like this who knows but I it's I just I I want I want that separation between between between those groups. Say like a because then when we do get these new characters that come along is show me. They're uniform and I can tell you what they do. Right as opposed goes to Oh new. Character uniform looks the same to me. I mean okay. You might have another stripe somewhere but I still don't know what that means because I I haven't seen You Know Scotty. ONSCREEN enough to know how many stripes. He's supposed to have for his I. Yeah I it just so can I I can I I I I kind of gave you the the real world answer of why they changed it Can I give you the in Universe answer share for where it is I and again. I don't know if this actually makes you feel better But as you may imagine every time there's a new movie maybe new movie but every time there's a new series a new cash you get a new costuming person person right and you get new directors and you get new this and that it's almost every time we turn around. There is like a new uniform scheme. And here's what happens starfleet. Every once in a while just changes their uniforms. I noticed that like they just do it happens now. You're going to be okay with it. Matt I promise I see it in your face. Nobody listening to this go. I see it in your face. You're going to be okay with it. You're going to like it at least I think you will by At least maybe one thing but the idea basically is just you know in this case fifteen years has separated. There's there's a new You know it's just a new level for them and they have changed their their uniform formed as we move forward and time continues to progress further into the future. Those uniforms will change again a couple of times and then even times when we go further back back into the past. Because there's a series out there they change again and look different you will. You will see the I will say this. You will see the elements that you know in love. They they will look different. You can have your thoughts and feelings about them because a lot of trekkies oftentimes a sticking point on the uniform. And it's it's a it's a discussion worthy topic. Dick as they changed throughout the various series. Okay I'M GONNA give you one more argument okay. My my my point of view here. Okay and then I'll move on okay but I Even having new costume designers Chur in the real world or having new uniforms made for starfleet in in universe However you WANNA put it like I still feel those people need to be given a set of guidelines? These are the things that need to stay the same. You can play with any other other details you want basically for me. It's basically give me those colors. You can change anything you want. Give me those divisions I I think it reminds me of the NFL right. The uniforms change almost every year for a lot of teams. And it's every five by the way was that teams can change their uniforms every five but it seems like every year thirty someone's came raining. Yes but you but you get what I'm getting. I think I is that there are things that need to stay the same. The colors stay the same. The team logo stays generally the same. I mean when when team changed their logo at all. It's a big deal. Yeah I so I mean I I also come from the most conservative part of the country here in the Mid West. We're we have the packers who really haven't changed their uniform in decades but would that being said I mean other eighteen. Do make changes and it's okay to an extent there are some things that are just untouchable. And and that's kind of how I feel. The uniform should be as well. It's like they need the guidelines and tails can change. Move on all right anyway. That's my thought it wasn't. That's eight again Matt. This is where I kinda go back to like. And I'll preface us as we get into thoughts about the movie but my entry point was much josh later than this In detract so I came back to this movie after having experienced a bunch of other stuff so the idea that the different uniforms existed overtime was already ingrained intimate I don't I don't know how the new uniforms were received in nineteen eighty. Two in this movie came out by trucks. I really had no idea idea. So it's it is interesting. Why actually loved doing a podcast like this because you're literally encountering this for the first time as the fans did back in eighty two? So maybe do they have the same as if if we have fans that were watching this back in eighty two bleeds right in tweet at us. Whatever let me know if you have thoughts about this? Yeah I'm I'm very curious. Dot Com or pod on twitter and facebook. Sure Yeah Anyway back to the movie we start to meet more of the cast. I know and love acceptive all change. Titles Okay we now have admiral. Kirk have captain spock. We have. It's all ooh okay. Okay what do you what do you think you know. Nobody's going to get promoted. Nobody's going to change. Yeah yeah well I mean going into this once again like I don't I didn't really have a good frame of reference for what time we're in sure like I didn't know going into this. Oh this is is like fifteen years past what I was watching before bright. Okay Fair enough so I mean it. There are some series who who take movie and say this is what happened after the last episode. We just played. This is not the case us. In case you're wondering that The first movie which was filmed owned and released ten years after the original series closed took place. I want to say. It's about two to three years after the original series was done. I can't okay because they had to finish the five year mission and then they had a year and a half refit. And that's when the next one takes place right. This movie is now you know like twelve years after that even though in real time it was only like three years later. Yeah so it. I got to imagine the people who watch this in real time and the only reason we know is fifteen years because because they tell us inside the movie deep inside the right I got to imagine that maybe even the people who saw this in real time. We're like wait a minute. When is this movie supposed to like wait? We jumped a long time. What's going on here like I can imagine so interesting quote from Kirk? Galloping around the cosmos is a game for the young doctor. Yeah Yeah so do you. Do you get what they're doing here like like kind of what's happening here at the beginning They are I think as I understand it. They're trying to find line. A new crew for the enterprise. That's right because all the all the people are basically aging out. Yeah right that's exactly right and that's exactly what they're doing at the beginning with the Kobe. Shoe she meru. They're they're trying to. Yeah I'm glad you picked up on that because I didn't realize that I don't think I ever put that together honestly until my rewatch for this for this this movie but I never I never thought about it before because I just I was before now. I was just popcorn munching while watching films now. I'm actually like thinking about it. He it saving lives. Yeah so and I mean I've seen wrath of CON. You probably saw it a half a dozen times before this chair. Maybe not that but I I guess I've Seen I've seen the movie. I just never thought about John. Yeah so yeah interesting kind of concept to start things off. Obviously I mean I did to have that gut feeling it's like you had. That's not going to be the whole movie like that. That's not what they do. Like Kirk showed up and like as soon as he like jumps on a ship with people. It is going to happen. It's going down quick tech note and I kind of wonder if this does play into the new director writer or whatever you're talking about before But there was a lot more just general. PA system announcements like like the the they they paged I think was spock to someplace and like he didn't respond to it or anything it wasn't like he was walking through the hallway and I and the intercom right next to him beeped and he answered it. It's like no just pagey over the intercom and psycho okay. Well I guess I mean part of it. Maybe maybe is that they weren't on ship. They were actually like on shadow. Know where they're at the academy. Okay yeah there aren't the Kademi on the simulators. Yeah so so. Like the the the fact that that's where they were instead of actually on the ship maybe had some do with the two but it just. It was noticeably different from what I was used to all right. I don't WanNa talk about it much but the outfit that bones is wearing when he goes to visit Kirk Romula Ilan stuff birthday speech. Yeah I don't know what that was. I mean I guess it's his off duty out here. It was weird okay. It was weird that that's all I can say. Then we kind of jump over to the NC C eighteen sixty four. There you go or the reliant yes where like I. I was Kinda confused at first because I'm like okay. Maybe they August got a new ship. 'cause like I we see Chekhov and I'm like well I know that guy is so we must be with the crew that I know wait. NOPE different capped out. Yeah Karol he's the security officer now right. Yeah yeah so once again trying to grasp all these new character and figure out what's going on on here and they just Kinda toss into it. It's like all right He's on different. Appear and thank you for explaining the the naming naming scheme of these ships to earlier. Yeah like okay. This is basically a newer version of the ship that we know right. I know it's a different. It's a different. This is the eighteen hundreds but it's sixty four following that they're sixty four of these of this model it'll ship running around out. There was right but I wouldn't say necessarily running round. It's just they've built sixty four of them at some point right. Oh yeah that absolutely could be true with conditioner. Got Blown fifty seven blown up yeah. It's a good model. We're going to keep making them because it ah once again like it has similar features like just from looking at outside like it. I like the round saucer area and and you have like to jet propulsion things. I'm those cells Matt. That's that's where warp drive comes from. I apologize to anyone who who knows their ships ships better than I do but like like had those main features but even that was in a different configuration so it was interesting thing to see you know how they thought things would change or you know. This ship is better now because we move stuff around but it still looked like I I look at that and I think that's a starfleet shit right. Yeah so good on them for that They start talking about this genesis project and they need a lifeless planet and mm-hmm I just didn't know where this is going thankfully you know that they cleared it up pretty quickly but trying to figure out like okay. What could genesis the product be? What what what? Why does so secret right but right? Yeah what what do you. What do you think about that concept like? I like a coup. When you talk about future tech like the idea that you could take a completely dead planet tariff on it that's what we're really talking about for anybody out there who doesn't know? Oh that's basically where you take dead earth and make it live make it usable. You know you can grow plants and stuff now and that's really what it is but I mean yeah cool concept. In now days I mean to put it in perspective like People WanNa Tear for Mars. Risa we can go live there. Yeah but right now as it stands like it's for for a human purposes it's dead like we can't live there right so It's it's an interesting concept bringing life from nothing right but if if the opposite is true like they say and it just changes the structure of everything. That's there see he can own it only safely. Use it where there is zero life right like. That's Kinda scary. Yeah 'cause miss that microbe right. Yeah I it's it's basically secretly a the most powerful weapon ever then you're wrong hands her and the other thing it does. Is it obliterates. Anything that is there anything is living. Yeah just kind of flips a switch if you're alive you're dead if it's out of your life and it's like okay. Well that sucks the so. It's I like it as a plot for a movie. I hope there's no way that can ever create that got like in real life. Yes if they do just be able to perform without killing everything. That's there in the first. Yeah that'd be the thing. I have some way of controlling doing in little more anyway. I made a note at this point that you know the leader Joe this genesis protests. I'm Kinda history with Kirk. Oh Yeah we yeah. She does definitely got a lot of history with Kirk they changed the I honestly. I don't know maybe change in the first movie to you. Were meeting later this year. It probably not in this series but the transporter effect. Yep Yep Yep Yep I like it. It's good I mean I I. I don't think I necessarily had a problem with the old effect. But Yeah you can definitely tell they're playing around with it trying something new and The the one point I found found interesting later in the movie is when they were transporting back I think was the final time Kirk and I forget who it was. I think it was one of the ladies. Okay but he like he was talking to her. Well they were transporting and like as like phasing. phasing-in you could. You could hear them still having this conversation off which I thought was a little bit different too because every other time like you always see the Take I I mean. It's partly because that's how they do the effect but like they they just froze right A. and they're dead silent had wait for it and then once they fully came back then we could do thinks like like I understand. It's a lot of because they had to freeze walk off the set you know go to this set standstill and eh cardboard cutout or something. Yeah however they do it but I thought that was a nice touch too that it's like they they could still like is essentially essentially I mean. It's an instantaneous process from what I understand is as far as what the individual experiences. It's yeah as far as like in real time I mean it's you know a couple of seconds several sons But but I I mean. It's instantaneous for them so like when they're having this conversation it's like they they start a conversation and they move places but they didn't like miss what they were saying in the middle of that that sentence down so I I. I thought that was whether intentional or not. I thought that was a nice touch in any case. Let's see we. We jump back to check off and he he finds out this is from the SS. Botany Bay. And I should've I. I will fully admit I did not put this together as quickly as I should should okay because I like Botany Bay. I've heard that name was from and as soon as he said it. Like take outwit. That's the name of the movie. I I should have put this together right leg. Of course you're going to introduce now. It's like okay. That was Kinda got it Matt did you. You happen to notice like in that particular shot any of the books that were on the shelf there. I did see a few. I can't recall them now but they were like old earth books. Yes and there was one in particular that was Kinda sideways a little bit. And it was very very prominent Herman Airman Melville's Moby Dick Moby Dick. which by the way I don't know how familiar with the story of Moby Dick Generics this story draws heavily from Dick Interested in so that's a little bit of Nicholas? Meyer kind of Putting it in there is a little bit of a shout out a little bit of a God a little bit of a thank you I because we we get the whole Captain Ahab and the whale and all that kind of stuff happening Particularly between Khan and and Kirk is you know they're chasing each other around stuff yeah awesome. Yeah yeah so I had to go back and double check that. My memory wasn't faulty because my memory does fail me from time time but first time we saw Khan. He wasn't blonde blonde was he. No Yeah No. It was very much dark-haired yeah because we Indian like from the subcontinent of India Yanbian by by ethnicity. Yeah most of them kind of have that same look to them all the people that they might have but they really were supposed to be from all over the world L. K.. Weren't necessarily well. That almost makes it worse because when we see him here they all have this like long blond hair did they. I pretty was Khan's Khan's blonde. I always thought it was white. Just whatever this guy just got old fifteen year poor lighting than I don't know I I would have paid. It is blond Ya Here's here's the thing and I heard this pointed out another podcast that I was listening to getting ready for this. What what really bothered some people was the idea that that Ah Khan who. By the way he's played by the same. It is the same actress. Ricardo Montalban who by the way is a Mexican so he's a Mexican playing in Indian uh-huh which is which is interesting but the idea that he aged right. I mean everybody clear. Everybody has changed in the intervening time but the crew around onto him was not the same actors and that was a new group they all still looked really young and as soon as I heard that they pointed out. It's now in my head and for everybody WHO's now listening. There's you never thought about before it's now going to be yours and it's GonNa be like you because now it bugs me so but they were there. I mean yeah I think they definitely claim one make him the sure and and that's how they chose to do it so But yeah you make a point but like I from I mean I. I've the only seen this once but from what I remember in the scene like they they were all very similar and like okay. Some of it could be living on this planet for fifteen years. You know so they'll have long hair. They getting haircuts they like. I almost thought like okay. Is it like bleached by the sun or something but like this planet there on his seems being a perpetual dust storm. So it's I don't think they're getting a lot of Sun So it looks like it just felt kinda strange to to make that big of a change from the character that we know yeah again again. I think it's it's just. The director had a healthy disrespect. And you know for the original series what did you make of Ricardo Montalban outfit. Now the new condwear somewhere I once he took like. Are you talking about like when we very first met him or after he disrobed no after he disrobed wrote like when we saw Khan and what would actually be his outfit for the Shah his costume. And you know with the necklace and the open. Sure and this kind of Jungle Warrior Kinda feel. That's what I always thought about it. Yeah yeah but it's not what he wore when we marooned him like Sir you it honestly. I don't remember exactly what he was wearing back then but I guess I didn't have a problem with it 'cause like I I. I have this faint mental image that created of con- back in his days on earth right. Okay like I have this right that they were like the superior humans that you know I started taking over. Different portions of earth genetic neared. Yeah Yep and so I kind of have this back in Time period. It actually be but like I can see him. Yeah running through a jungle or something and just being that you know King King of a bunch of Third World nations and like it is a little more rugged and a little more I mean he's at least used to living that way whether it's by because he wants to or because he needs to or that's all he can piece together other like. He just used the resources that he had at its disposal to create that so so fun fun. Little fact about the The costume there and I'll let you move on so we can get through this movie but There was a lot of fans speculation back in the day about montell bands chest taking a fake rubber chest because like if you look like from the necklace over you have like a sixty five year old man share from the necklace down and I don't know how much time you spend looking at his chest but I mean this dude looks like a peak. Give US FITNESS FRAT boy at the age of nineteen. Yeah it's it's amazing The the truth is is it's not fake. That is actually him. I believe eight designed that costume so his scene because Ricardo multi band aside from being an an actor was also very much a body built share and that was his thing like so That will get famous. Yeah yeah absolutely good for him man. He looked good Uh thank you. I'll start looking that good when I'm right now So requirements. That was that was his body and that costume was built the way it was basically to show it off I prefer this costume though and I know you said you don't really remember the one from the Games I do prefer or this cost him to what he wore on the series. This one feels more inline with the character now. And we'll get into this as I'm sure this goes on but the character of cod. Aw in the intervening years has had some stuff happen to them. That has changed him as a person. And so there are differences between this con con that we last saw And some of that's because of that and he is a little bit more voyeur. He is a little bit more or a lot. More Warrior oriented and a lot more. You know focus. So that's that's some as well so all right I'm Michelle I'll let you continue at So we get these creatures I do. Do they have a name. I don't know about them but the little things that they pulled out of them. They are called the Seti emails said he said he is the name of the star system. And there's y'all's yields okay. Yeah see these heels I I. I'm not okay with them. I give a little horror going on here aren't we. Yeah I like. I have a problem with bugs in my house. That's right you do much less you do. That's right rolling on me much less crawling in Mike years or even just being trapped in my helmet like no thank you. Yeah yeah those. Those were scenes that had to be removed for like like the cave version and a couple of other countries a different different ratings and system. Sure I believe IT I. Yeah that does pretty gross I guess I. I'm glad that it was kind of there and gone. And it's like okay. Let's move on. Yeah why okay Kirk jumping back to kirk. He he are you moving onto the next thing I have to bring up. Go ahead we because this is such a a big thing in the in in in the world of Phantom con looks at Captain Terrell basically says I don't know Yep and then he looks at Chuck Offices says but I know I never give thanks. Oh did he never actually meet. Here's the problem didn't come into season to season in one. Oh boy so there's always I mean it's like the big thing that people talk about like. Oh how could he been there. You know you make I mean make it up. It's real Lisi right. Like yeah he just check off was down below we actually go back and listen to our episode by the way Matt and win. Check off I came in. We had the question like is he. He knew to the crew or has he been there and I was like I don't know maybe it was down this peeling potatoes. Gets this reason right here by the way lot. Like if he's down below deck working in the kitchen or whatever like there's Khan did not meet every person working on that is that is fair so there is a aval that is not canon its star. Trek novel called terrain. And Hell that actually establish checkoff was the security officer. Okay so Kinda go. He's in that Realm L.. He was the security officer who was in charge of the team. That would escort Khan and all of his people down to Seti Alpha Phi shirt when they when they maroon like so. So you know I. It's not anything that we ever see him film Alexa Canon. But back there are ways you could explain cleaners. Sure so two things about that one Walter came egg. The Guy who played check off he he would joke at conventions and stuff. That's the reason is is that checkoff was actually there on the enterprise back then and he was just in the bathroom when Khan had to go and he made Conway eight like an extra long time until check bathroom. And then it wasn't a pleasant experience for what he went after him and so that's why he was so mad at him that that was. That's what Walter Cain said But Nicholas Meyer to kind of go back to him and he talks about his healthy disrespect. he was very much aware of the discontinuity of this. He just didn't care and he did it anyway. He just didn't so anyway. So your convention they start talking about wrath of Khan. You'll probably hear how to Chekhov Echo. How did he know who checkoff was you know so so there you go okay? You're getting ready to move onto a captain Kirk. Yeah something back to I believe it. It was Told US earlier. That spot gave him this book. I think no I was his back. I don't know But like he starts reading like raises the first line. I don't think they ever actually show us like the cover of the book but you know the first line was the best of times it was the worst. I times sure right so we have a tale to cities right But Kirk brings this book everywhere like I. I can't figure it out like I. It's one thing to be walking around Academy or holding any room or whatever but then he just like casually brings it on with him to the ship and I'm like what why are you. Is this your security blanket like what what is going on here with this book. Because he's holding and then he like hands it off to someone I'm like. Why did you bring it? If you're not even going to hold onto like is missing some purpose or some meaning behind this book no not really I mean okay could probably draw one out of that. But I'm not going to be. Yeah I it's not anything I've ever really noticed. I just you know kirks getting older. And he's not the captain anymore right so he doesn't doesn't anticipate having to do this shakedown cruise it's a training cruise. He's GonNa kill right like you know. He's not anticipating anything happening. You you know okay. I'll give you that. Yeah so I think I eventually answered my own question or you kind of answer earlier okay. There's a brief conversation between SPOCK AND SAVIC SAVIC SAVIC Mr Savak. Which I'm assuming now is there? Speaking of Vulcan. Yes because that would be their common shared. Language is not English right. Okay so that answers that but then yeah. What's with the calling her? Mr May well be an apparently. This is true of of our military as well. There is. You don't recognize gender so when you're referring into your superiors or whatever it's Mister Sulu Mr. SPOCK MR whatever You don't you don't change it just because of gender so it's Mr Savage and that's the only it's just a apparently that's the way it is in our military have to talk to some military and it's and it's and it's always sir to it's always sir. It's not it's not mayem. Yeah whatever it's it's sir see and like I can't tell you why but just in my head instinctively like if if you're talking to a superior officer in particular and say Sir like that doesn't throw up a red flag for me as much like if for whatever reason I guess I don't assign as much gender to that term in that scenario as I do Mr Okay like Mr to me. Yeah Yeah AH has that gender with it but like Sir would be fine talks to the malls area. Yeah now I want you. I want you to take this conversation. File it away in the back your head and I'm GonNa tell you we're gonNA come back and re address this and a couple of series but we're specifically going to address Russel's went head on and I think you're gonna like it's kind of call back to this. So yeah we we kinda start settling in here and I love to see like in the old cruisers back together again right right and like they kind of start playing it up having things up a little bit. I know with the new guys around there. It's like well admirals onboard captain's choice Sulu indulge yourself like everyone salutes cool. Yeah Yeah We don't really care. We know each like you can. They don't actually do. You can see them winking at each other with every line that they give. It's like MHM because like they don't WanNa. They're just having fun with their their trainees. All right right and I that that was a great seen a great feeling for me. It's like yeah the the bands back together mile away. A A Savak has a brief word with Kirk in the elevator. It really doesn't go much of anywhere and like I. I think maybe trying to give us some idea of where her character was at. But I I don't know if felt like an awkward sequence. That's where she tried to get him to tell them about the Kobe Maroon. He was like yeah. You could ask but I I I think I think that was part of it. Yeah Eh it's like she. She wanted information but he didn't feel like talking. So okay we're done SIA but We've actually get back to the bridge and Internet Actually much later I think But a couple of times in this movie they had a lot of trouble with communications. Get that like technical difficulty type of problems and static and like I I. I have never seen this in star trek before it really right like usually either. It works or doesn't work but we don't get garbled static. I I see you hear what what what was the cell phone going through and anybody out there. Listening Matt was actually just doing that on purpose. That's not your MP three player. Whatever skipping yes it? It's just like this this far in the future once again like I understand. They are communicating across. Who knows what kind of distances in space? But it's it just felt like I I'm better with it when it just doesn't work for whatever reason as opposed to Getting this garbled communication I think so but did you understand though that that communication was being blocked well and that's what I'm saying being blocked block block it right but they but but now which communication are you talking about where Carol was calling burke. That's one where I made the note like there was one before that would that was kind of questionable too but yeah I made the note at the at the one where Carol was calling curve and that was that was one. Where where Khan wanted? He's trying to lure kirk out there. So he he you know he wants to let her get through a little bit and give Kirk enough to override and get it out there because he wasn't planning on going out there for any reason he had to be out there You know so you know you can answer it that way. If you're the only other one I could think of that. You're probably talking about would be where checkoff calls them at regular one. But I don't think that one was very garbled at all. No that wasn't garbled is just he wasn in coming up any information about contacting their but you I mean you are going to get it and I think you'll see this in other series and stuff going forward and I'm not thinking of specific examples. Apples off top of my head but I mean there are sub space interfere techno babble and out all you want there's interference or there's a Neutrino net around the station right now. There's a somebody sneezed and communications. I mean you know they can. They can explain those way. So all right I'll let it go. Your your point is just being. Hey listen at this point it either works. Yeah that's less of a problem with it not working or if it's being blocked that means it just doesn't work period so like if Khan wants to mess with like this is how I would've written I guess is like she gets her message out. It's like why did you give the order order to give up genesis or something like that and just like chopping off their screen goes black right. It's like okay you you you know. Let him know that that there's a false order that he gave out there and it's about this project now you you go do your you know investigative work and figure out. Okay what what is this genesis. Where is this where she working right now like Because I mean I think that's suspicious enough to is like as she gets cut off of essentially like mid-sentence mid-sentence it's like a and then you can't get communications back with her. That's enough to draw you out there right. Sure at least for a movie right so I mean I it. Just it's a little thing I guess but I once again i. I guess just given the technology that I've seen up to this point talk with in the Star Trek Franchise. That's how I feel. It should work but earn. I'm not ready. We have cons plans. Sir seeming to work being working out perfectly right now at this point which I kind of impressed with the you know how he's planning this Out in how he's using all these other people like just puppeteer everybody it's like He. He hasn't made his presence known to kirk yet. And but Kirk it comes straight to him so awesome One other quick tech note that I don't think I've seen before in Star Trek but what's going to haven't seen every episode so the Retina Scan. Yeah Yeah Hey. Technology we have. Today win came out. I really don't. This is for all the technology this this is the one that is really. I mean it's probably the most accessible. You're not but I mean like yeah okay I I. It's a fingerprint right. Yeah it's it's it's a different person. Nowadays people totally understand what it that is sure but back then it was probably thoroughly new super advanced. You know someday will be able to do this. So we'll put in our movie. Yeah so I is cool. See that in there right. I didn't realize is the KLINGONS had old proverbs and I didn't realize I knew some of them. I bet you also didn't realize that. Khan new KLINGON proverbs. Revenge events is a dish best served. Cold it's Klingon. Okay good to know. Put that way in the men bank so once again we start to see this this chess match between Kurkin Khan and they just both know each other and they know they're targets and they know that they know everything yeah like e even though constables to be like this superior human like kirks right up there with them because at like econ shows at first but like he knows exactly where to fire on the ship. They make a point of noting that and it's like he fires here he fires here the docks out their engines and then hits the bridge basically like is awesome. He knows what he's doing. He like he he just wants to disable them. You don't WanNa kill him yet. Wants to play around with. I need some information in his like but he's not going to let them get away. Got It but then you know when Kirk gets his chance eventually to like he gets one shot and I'm impressed impress because it's a different style of ship. I mean ill like we discussed. The there are some similarities. But once again it's a different series of ships so they've moved some stuff around but still he knew exactly where he needed to hit and it's not like he he went back and you know on the computer and pulled up the manual for the eighteen eighteen hundred series. No he knew this stuff to it may be as admiral. He even approved the plans for the ship or something like that or maybe he helped it. Maybe he helped design. I wonder if there's any cannon built around that it's like you know all right you flew flew the first seventeen hundred. What can we improve right right right? That was his department. Yeah you're out there. What do we need in the next starship make them better? Yeah but this this for me was actually like the highlights of the movie. Is these little mini battles. We get between Kirk and Khan. Yeah and I mean I honestly go watch this movie if you had to watch this movie like. I can't even talk you through every little bit of it because it's just you don't have much. Yeah Watch it. Yeah Yeah Eventually though we start cleaning up from what has happened here and they made a really dramatic moment out of this. Where Scotty shows up holding a body right right? Are we supposed to know this guy. I don't think okay I've I've never really known is what the the they make big deal out of. I think this was the point. You know like everybody else kind of ran off but he stayed at his post sure e in the middle of things and it's kind of like you know he would have been a great guy to have on board but now he's dead right also foreshadowing to the end of the film. The one guy stays as it is post and ends up sacrificing himself for Muslim his post. Well but you don't even his post right. Yeah Yeah Yeah they they go through this little little dialogue though to that. I haven't heard before and once again I don't know if it's a actual star trek thing interferes written for the movie but like I. I honestly thought he was dead but he he has one last breath in him. And he's like is word given admiral and this kirk replies like towards given warp speed at what okay then was strange. Yeah I think that some writer was maybe trying to heart. Yeah Yeah you either go. A writer's trying too hard or there's something in a deleted scene that we missed. Yeah as one of those things. Yeah Yeah because yeah like I said this particular character. I don't think we had a huge interaction with earlier in the movie right. So yeah I I. It's Kinda hard to explain but would it stuck out to me for sure and and like I think the thing that bothered me most about it. Then which Kirk didn't seem to care but like he sits up in like holds holds onto Kirksey uniform then when he lays back down dies like all I could see he left a bloody handprint on Kirk uniform like well. That wasn't wasn't very nice but yeah So then they're back on the they they venture to make the way to the space station and I'm sitting there. They're trying to figure out like it's empty as far as we can see. There's nobody there whereas I'm thinking like we only saw. Maybe a dozen dozen people on this space station throughout the previous shots in the film but I anticipate there has to be many dozens if not hundreds of people pull that. We're working the space station and it's just empty so my first thought is. How do you emptying entire space station without blown it up? It's like did. Did they load them all onto another ship did they throw them out of the airlock. Did they a vaporize amount site. Like what happened here. I so many thoughts going through my head. I didn't know what to think at this point because I'm I honestly didn't know where they're going with the story but eventually they do find a few people. It still doesn't quite explain what it really was just as skeleton crew running this entire station but like they found few people strung up and they found eventually fouled on Check is that where they check off. Yeah Yeah Check off in terror over there. Yeah yeah they're inside a storage compartment or something. Yeah Yeah but actually before they found them I found it interesting. that it it. It makes a stranger now that that I realized she was a vulcan but Savak like I don't know if this was like supposed to be humorous. I think it was kind of as as viewer. But I don't know if that in character if that was her intent where she made up regulation talking about General Order Fifteen yes. Yeah and it's like just so so she she she was basically saying. Hey I want to come along on the mission. And her way of doing that was to to to make up a regulation that didn't exist that that let her come along and like that doesn't seem like a vulcan thing to do right like like that. Seems like a kirker bones or Scotty or someone else. Are you saying that somewhere. You've found out that it didn't really exist or you just feel like she's making it up. It doesn't really exist. But you're hurt said that okay. Yeah that was like her reply to her. It's like He. I think he says like that. That's not a regulation and and then like he's he stops himself like I you know I like I guess you're right because he does he does kind of be like that's that's it's not a thing I guess I just once he relented. I think I always interpreted that as like he just remembered that. That was the thing But maybe I took it. Yeah maybe maybe it really wasn't a thing. She just made it up but he just stopped himself in wet. Okay find you can come because it was the whole I I think it was before this. Where yeah because when they are her was I've time is almost my head now but The the other time when they first came up on their ship the the the reliant and like she started quoting regulations to him and spock stopped her. And it's like he knows the regulations he wrote a few of them so yeah and and so like I took this. You know when he says that's not a you know he he knows it's not but then it's like okay. I get where you're getting enough fair enough. Yeah yeah well you know. She has half Rami she can live it. Okay Okay if you can let his human side come through she can get Robbins out through. Yeah there you go all right Yeah so they get on the space station. They split the party which is awfully idea in any movie video game. Whatever Zoo right yeah? We're GONNA bring three people on board and then we're going to split up good. I mean our last episode of T. O. S. the Tholan web right They they beam over to this other ship and they all split up and check off like winds up going and catching a bug because of crippling guys. Yeah I mean that one I think at least at kind of knew what they're getting into right whereas this was completely unknown I love once again. I mean just GonNa go watch us. How so Kirk and spock interact? Yeah and basically always assumed the bag is listening. It's like that I mean they they explain it later on to. It's like Oh yeah we're following regulations actually It's just their little. Interactions are so perfect. uh-huh you could tell it. They've been doing this for a long time and they can just leave the newbies out in the cold. I mean that that Avi it it plays so true because they obviously have been working together for so but on a on a storytelling level. Like we need these moments throughout the The course of the film to because it really sets us up for the impact that happens later on you know what I mean like like a all of these. Little things between spock and Kirk like it really as we get get to the final death scene between them at the end like all of this helps lead up. I think to that point. Yeah at least driving emotional impact so yeah so oh I have one question okay. Where did that come from like? This is your stereotypical horror or movie. Were walking through the Empty House and jump at all. It's a rat okay. I'm sitting here thinking. This is a space station. It's one of the cleanest leagues elsewhere. If there is a rat someone had put it there someone had to bring it into space with them so it has not been living there since the space station was built like I. Yeah that's felt wrong anyway. This they do eventually find people. Yeah yeah they find everybody murden Eventually find the CHECKOFF in to whatever I inside that storage talking. Yep Yep And like eventually they they then meet up with What's her name? Carol Carol thank you. Caroline David ads so carols. An interesting in character okay. Did you have this thought with care. Well okay when you first heard okay Carol Marcus she's an old fling of Kirk. Pop Quiz how do you remember. Member meeting Carol Marcus in an episode before. No okay was Carol Marcus. Is She a new character for this movie or is she a character from an episode. Maybe that we skip. I assumed she was new for this movie. Based on the way they introduced her okay because she totally is and every time I watch this film. I'm like where does she like like like it. Shocks me that this is the first discussion. We even half of Carol. Marcus yeah because I really feel like this should be a carryover from somewhere in the show but it's not an and why and you know but that's what I'm saying though is like I when the introduced her like one of the first things they said had about her was that she was an old flame right a sickly right hand. I felt that if she had been in an episode of the show were the the first movie even like I think they would have left that out honestly maybe they should have put it in any way for anyone who is just exclusively washing this movie. Sure but I. I think that they wouldn't have just kind of come out right right up front and said Oh. Yeah Oh yeah they they used to have thing right right and by the way I I don't think I could ever on a personal level. I could never do kirk. Did to to to have a son to know that you have a child And because the mother says I dj disappear and never contact us and don't be anywhere near a part of his life and be like okay. I couldn't do it. You know for Kirk it was it was like we established published that several times throughout the show and evening the couple of the episodes that we saw Kirks I love was the starship the ship. It was the ship that was his late. That where he he used he was married to the ship. Exact fine. I don't understand I really don't and and you know it's a i. I'm not sitting here trying going to judge Kirk or anyone else who may be in that spot. I'm just I it's such A. It's such a foreign concept. The idea that he could just be really okay but I mean he obviously thinks about her. He's always been concerned and cares about her end. David you know You Know Sam but when they do meet up here in the movie yeah and Dan Honestly at the F.. I I I don't know I I didn't know and I mean it wasn't clear until later but like I didn't even know if David knew that Kirk was his father right right away and so he he attacks him. Yeah I had my first thought is why. Why is nobody jumping in here right? Like this is the admiral. I don't care who this kid is. He's attacking your admiral. Why are you not doing something about it right? I probably ought to do something about it right. Yeah but they they just let you know the two of them go at it. I'm like okay. We're direct oriel choice. Okay sure yeah But yeah we we we get into a few things and veggie check of I mean after Terrell dies or kills himself actually Chekhov Cov has his thing with his little ill at somehow manages kick it out of his brain good for him. Yeah I don't I. I never understood why that that thing just picked that moment to lead. Yeah I don't know if there was some connection to the other one that he was now dead. I never understood that. I'd like a From the beginning as soon as they crawled into his head I thought for sure it is gonNA come down to bones the performing some procedure on him or having some gadget or something to to kill the the bug while it was in his brain yet right like I was sure. That's how how is GONNA go down but no yeah seemingly at a very convenient time for us crawled out of and Kirk Zaps it for. It's okay I guess they didn't didn't have a better way to do it but I it's either way. It crawls out Chekhov's laying there and I'm like wait a okay. That was my other thought was like is checkup dead and so actually now that neither mentioned that that will kind of make sense if if the bug killed him and then crawled out right right and now now. I'm starting to wonder if that's the line of reasoning. They were going for as like. Oh he killed killed check of my job here is done. I'm going to go find new host. I guess but Yeah I. I'm very thankful did not kill off. Check off right I I suppose once again. It's a movie. It's after the series. They could start killing people off but I am glad they didn't like okay. Cool crew safe great for now Ha Yeah Yeah. We'll get there that we get the infamous con and yelling from Kirk. That's that's the one thing I know about. This movie. Is that he else's name right and they do the they even did. The you know the stereotypical you know pan out to like planet level and you can still hear yelling and say Okay Sir. Right but yeah but then they kind of breakdown. That David is in fact Kirk Son. I'm like Oh we're going there. I didn't actually see that coming because I didn't think that was a major part of the story but all right and I mean it actually really makes more sense now that you know when you're telling me this new director came in and Kinda Cherry pick parts from different scripts that he liked okay that that makes a lot more sense now than you know this. Actually being a part of a cohesive story But then we get back to kirk and Khan little bit ahead Eh. They start playing in each other's hands and and Kirk finally gets the upper hand plays he knows exactly what Coun- wants and so he kind kind of plays them a bit and get some do a few things but I guess I officer for best of I don't know what else to call them but I found that his role was kind of interesting like he was super confident but he like every time time he said he was going to do something like Khan would shoot him. This nasty look like no. That's not what I WANNA do. 'cause it always be like the thing that was best for the ship but it would take them farther away from like killing Kirk Ed. Kahn was so like one track. Mind in this instance that it's like. Why would you do that? I didn't tell you to do that that that you know I. It's it's not getting me towards my objective here stop stop destroying my plans phrase being mean But then eventually like you said Carne was Kinda incapacitated on death's door and there's this imagine like floor hidden floor Level Panel that pops up that conveniently allows do exactly what he wants is to do. Well you know the movies only long. We've got it was the strangest thing like this panel came nowhere handle. He's not like I. I Okay Sir. It's the secret. I'm dying at floor level. I can't get to the other control. Panels Control panel right. Yep and then like I I. I was pretty sure this is how it's GonNa end from everything that was going on but it was kind of anticlimactic con dying. Yeah like the thing. That always gets me when I see this is when Khan dies and then if you look at the timing on it like they're still like a whole thirty. Some odd minutes left a film. Yeah you know you're like Whoa. WHOA WHOA I mean -ticipant that being the last thing in the movie right well? Yeah and I think that's movies as we know them today though. Sure like if this was remade. Hey today I think it would be done drastically differently because it might say. This was remade today but We'll we'll get there okay. 'cause like I I'm I'm just sitting here. It's like the the biggest part of this story should be kirk verses cotton right and so when that just ends and like he just like essentially lets hip kill himself and then he's just gone and it's like Oh okay. He didn't take anybody down with him. He just essentially blew himself up Yeah that worked out. Well I guess sure but yet then like set the movie. It was not over yet now so we go back we saw saw you cleaned up. The Enterprise is about to blow up or something. It's not functioning. Well it's it's because con activated the genesis device. Ace and they're stuck in that Nebula or whatever they're right That if they didn't get outta there they including the ship all the living beings and the ship itself. We're going to be On done by this by this genesis device. Yeah so or stuck. Because you know they're engineering thing got all jacked up. So one of my biggest questions was why does no no one seemingly trust. spock what do you mean like basically like it was always like spock saying like. Hey I'm going to go do this services like no no no. You can't do that or like when he goes down in engineering like puts himself in that room every like on doors saying no. You've got to come out of there. It's like yeah Tokyo. He knows that yeah they do but they don't care they no. You can't do this. You GotTa get out you gotta get out and I mean it's it's I think. The doctors are great. Example example. Like the doctor knows if someone doesn't have to be sparked but if someone doesn't go in there and do whatever spark did then everybody dies Right So I gotta let them do it but even more so because like they said you know it couldn't be a human that does it and so every retire like Ed as you love. Reminding me you know I'm not human right. Because he said a few times in movie like when he was mad at him is like he called him. I'm green blooded in human right and I it's like it's Spock is aware of all the risks. He but he is the captain now like the he he he's fulfilling. His duty is going down with the ship right. He does so I well I I understand and like them not wanting to die at same time like I feel like there should be some level of understanding there like if anything like stand back. Let him do as they salute him or something right. It's like give him his last moment instead of yelling at him. Yeah it okay before we get to end this this is one more weird affects note. Okay when they do finally get the I what I believe was the warp drive working again right and can't get like these. Two shots of the enterprise blasted off into warp. Speed is the strangest sounding looking warp speed. I've ever seen so I don't know if this particular shot you're talking about is included in this but I do know that you remember. I mentioned that they made the movie. The twelve million bucks. You know part of the way they did that was they. Didn't shoot a whole lot of new exterior model stuffed shirt so it was reused. A lot of it was reused. I used from the the first move. You know So I don't know if this particular effect was one of those the ones that were reused but yeah it could have been but let like because saying like the the changes to like the transporter I mean that was fine. Felt like they're trying something new. Go to warp speed speed here and it. It did not play well. It cracks me up like sitting here listening to it Yeah because I I've gotten real used to whatever they you know when you move from one movie it to the next one series to the next changes happen share you know and I just accept it and I don't I don't play and what I do. I just tried to come up with some silly reason. Listen y you know what I mean and it may be real may not be. I don't know like that to me is just part of the fun. But it's it just at the end of the day to me on whatever's in the movie but I've been I've been around this block a few times you don't share it Maybe I'll get more use of these things as we go on but for me. A lot of this is the first change that they've made. Yeah I mean you're you're completely not alone in a lot of these feelings because as as I have often mentioned you like like trekkies tend to have a hard time with the new stuff now and and it seems like almost every time. There's some sort of a costume change or some sort of shift change or some sort of a whatever sort of change There are people who take issue with it they just do and I think it's silly for a lot of people I mean I mean people take take such issue with it that they they have convinced themselves that just because these changes they're not going to like it no matter what it does Rather than just allow the show to stand on its own on its own two feet and and present itself to you like they get caught up in what I say the silly stuff. I'm fine mentioning. I'm fine going through it. You know But it's and I'm not saying that you're doing that I'm just saying you're not alone in picking up on these things and and talking about. Finally you can't kill spark doc contract matt now they can know the contracts bell on like that check of would be like I would not have liked it but but I mean he's not part of the trio right right I so I could see it happening. No you can't kill spock now now and so like I. I'm holding holding out some small little bit. Hope that like you said that they shot his dead body down onto that planet that just like regenerated rated at like I know his body. Wasn't there the initial blast. But I I'm hoping that planet now has enough like power built into it that it will seep into his his body and regenerate him as well so I'll give you three notes real quick about that and I I love the were the fact that you just use the word hope. Yeah I I told you that litter Nimoy Wanted out he wrote into his contract. Spock dies can that's the way it is however over the course of making making this film. He had so much fun and such a good time. That's he kind of went up to the director and they talked about it and he said Hey. Let's figure hartaway to not make this permanent. Let's figure or to at least have the door open. Yes I would agree right now at doors open. which if you remember when I said even way back the recap hey he does this mind meld with McCoy and says to remember? Yeah whatever that's about that's that would be a thing and then also so When they test show would? They tested this film in front of their test. Audiences they the whole part where his casket lens on the Genesis Planet. And we hear the the over Voice of the monologue of Leonard Nimoy Doing the thing that didn't exist in the in those cuts and people had a really really hard time ending being on really such a Downer of peace so they went back in and added those two things they added the monologue and they added the casket dropping into the end of the Genesis Planet. It as to shine a ray of hope that something could happen now. They didn't know at the time. The next film the name of the next film star Trek. Three he is titled The search for Spock. Okay we're not gonNA watch that one I however I will give it to you as extra viewing if you would like to watch it and we KINDA is kinda around this out There could be reasons. I think you probably are going to. I don't know that you've watched any of the extra viewing that I've told you about so far. You may actually watch this particular one. We'll get there as we as we wrap up and talk about where we're going next but with that. Did you have anything else you wanted to bring bring up from from the movie things that stood out to you. Whatever I it's so interesting to me I I'm sorry it's so the all the stuff you bring up like as somebody who's watching this for the first time it was just interesting? I will make one more note book. I I did make here that spock tells right at the end that I never took the Kobe Meru right. But he's a captain right like so. It's not a required test. Or did he like logic his way. Out of it There's something I'm not going to spoil it for you. He's not actually. That answer comes back around in the future. The line is in there for a reason. It's there well. They didn't know it at the time they went back. And I said this on a previous episode pursuit of the show like I love how they're these little things that get dropped into star trek as they go along and and people pick up on it and people talk about it and and later writers future shows somehow work that in. Yeah it was worth nearly the original intense writing. They brought it the first time but people use those little tidbits those little around this little one liners sensually and then go back and they they you know I mean things like where we see. Spock smiling well you know they go back and eventually start talking about well. Why was he smiling back? Then and and they create those storylines behind behind it the the characteristics and stuff in help you kinda re imagine. I guess what what could have actually happened. So it's all interesting so all right well with that Matt Just a couple of extra production notes that I found rather interesting This film is credited as Saving Star Trek. And I don't know if you would feel that like there is the series got cut short. They went and made a movie successful at the box office but nobody really liked it. Let's go ahead and make another one and see how it turns out and and if this one would not have received the good reviews the series is going to be that yeah so this one Really kind of had that and it had that saving surgery and it's it's interesting I feel like this is maybe the third or fourth time we've talked about star. Trek was about to die. And then this famous person showed up or this event happened and Save Star Trek Wrath of Khan won two Saturn Awards for best actor To William Shatner and best director to Nick Meyer I. It was also nominated for Hugo Award. That's that Science Fiction Story Award word of the six films that feature the original series crew. This is the only one that has been remastered into ten eighty P hd from the original negatives CBS like they went back and re skinned in the original negative. Do that also when this film was released in one thousand nine hundred two it earned fourteen point three million dollars at the box office. which at the time time was a record? Kinda crazy to think about today. We're we're in the billions yeah you know we're we're getting films into the billions like those are the new records It would later later. Broken two years later by a little film called Indiana Jones and the temple of doom. I don't know if you've ever heard of it. It's worth a watch it's a mediocre sequel. You do you have that. And this is Ricardo Montalban and I'm sorry we never got to this in the Kind of in your recap. Because I was looking for a place to put it but he talks about the difference difference in how he played the two cons like first of all. He says he forgot about con being so many years. So he had to go back and Rewatch the episode Spacey Too Few Times to Kinda back into into the character but basically he talks about how this one was so affected by the death of his wife like all the all the stuff that happened in the intervening years. Where the you know the first just when he was he was He was well disciplined and he said in this one he lost that discipline looking. He played as a guy who was so obsessed with his vengeance. And and so obsessed with its that Captain Ahab in Moby Dick head to where it eventually killed him and and it lost his discipline. Nature of what it was to elite. But it's it's not just because he was a tyrant he was even when he was mad. It's he was grieving the death of his wife that was his his motives. which you know death of a loved one? Death Breath of a spouse of a child that goes on to to be in many many many films so as a motivator for the evil got all right last night that I have The original title of this particular iteration of Star Trek was going to be called the vengeance of con- not the wrath of Khan. But there's another little movie that was getting ready to come out called return of the Jedi and now Matt. Do you know what the name of return of the Jedi was going to be before it was return of the Jedi. Not necessarily revenge of the jet that was that was the working title for that film. And they're like well we can't have vengeance of of Khan and then vengeance revenge the Djeddai so they switched it up really it changed it. They both wanted to change it. It'd been fine but wrath wrath of Khan flew off the tongue a little bit better to me anyway so definitely I I am. I am glad they they did that. Are Matt well with that This is a really popular movie. I mentioned it's a touchtone. There are so many elements of this film that that pop culture references back to of course there spock's death and the emotional arc that carried. There's this being direct sequel to an episode. You have a really cool villain bill. And they were focused in on as action movie Did you like this film. Did you like this as a as a you know episode quote Unquote of Star Tra. I liked parts of it. Okay I mean particularly like say anytime con- sure like that. That was the meat of this movie movie. That's what he should have been focused on and like we got a good chunk of it right like the if you split this movie into like four four quarters like the third quarter with good okay. Okay as you're saying I'm kind of with you on us and this will probably get me flayed. Among a lot of trek fan. People people got his off right now. Those guys are idiots. They don't know what they're talking about. But I can't part of the the purpose of this podcast is to introduce somebody to the world of trek and see what they think about it. Now Yeah right and I think a lot of people hold this movie in in very high esteem either because it was their trek and they saw it in theaters theaters and then there's the nostalgia to it and nine hundred eighty two. This was amazing and this was different than any other trucks. We've ever seen before exactly. I think that's GONNA play a big part in it like nowadays. I mean not only am I going to compare it to things like star wars but like so many other space insiders series and stuff that I've seen gene and so yeah back in one thousand nine hundred eighty two. If I was living this not only would i. Would I be nostalgic for it like I have minded installed for anything in the nineties. He's right right there even if I hated it in the nineties the fact that it's from the nineties now I go back and it's like Oh yeah this is. This is my generation. This is this is my stuff right right and so I like I could totally see that. Not only if you grew up with it but like if it's I it it was the best from the day. Sure sure it was sure so I think you have that. I think the other side of that and this is i. Don't WanNa say critique but I see this happening in your cross many phantoms. I think you have the people who are nostalgic for this film. Who saw this? Is this a good film if I rank all the films and I'm talking but all thirteen of them and even if I just ranked the top ten this would be towards the upper middle pack of films to me or maybe the lower part of the top opt here so I do like this Phil I prefer other ones. I think there are other ones that to me so they speak to me a little bit more than I think are better than I if I sit down and say okay. I'm going to watch thirteen star. Trek films. Wrath of Khan is not my first choice justice. Not and that's that's my opinion. I can see that but again. This wasn't my entry point right into trek. So I'm a little bit on your side with this however with wrath of Khan and I think a little bit like city on the edge of forever remember how we talk about like. It's considered the best star. Trek episode absorb all time by a lot of people and you're kind of like star Trek right And we even had an email or who you said the same thing like I don't really feel like Star Trek. I think a lot of times what happens in fandom is this this phenomenon of called group think yeah have you ever heard of that. You know what I'm talking about where. Hey everybody says that this this is cool so it must be cool and I'm going to think it's cool to yeah just like everybody else exact you know far be it for me disagree with everybody. So but you know it's it's it would be disingenuous me as a podcast or putting voice out there to say if you don't think this is the best star trek movie ever. Then you're there's something wrong with you. Oh I I just I can't say that for my own personal opinion and you know somebody in your shoes. Matt who you know is watching this for the first time you know so so many years later to be able to go I mean would you say it was good but maybe not great. Yeah I mean there are a lot of movies. I've seen in from the eighties under just bad movies. Sure I I would not say this is one of them right right. Yeah Yeah it was. A good movie had had good production value. You liked what they were doing. They like I mean. I had a few complaints here in Nara. They some of the most horrible choices right was mostly cosmetic to what they do at the Anta performs what they do with this what they didn't have anything to do with the substance of the story. Yeah everything kinda flowed together. I mean they got to the main point. Ah the Kirk Khan stuff is fantastic. Sure I agree with you. I agree with you so all right. Well Matt's let me ask you would. Would this be a film. You'd WanNa Watch again like would you put this on your list if you like would you wanNA watch it again. Well see like being the only star Trek Film. I've really seen I I. It's hard to judge right now. Okay all right fair enough. Let me check out a few movies all right all right. Well we will we will. We will check out if you check out the two in fact one of them however will not be Star Trek through the search for spock. I will tell you this the matinee and you should know this first of all the next week we're doing is we're GONNA skip. We're GONNA do number four year before it's called the voyage home for I really debated whether or not we should do this movie This movie very much stands on its own as a solo. Low peace within the greater star. Trek Universe is its own separate adventure can however it is so well known within the the Phantom that it very much which is a part of the the auspices of this podcast. I really tried to kind of skip over it but the more I thought about it the marketing back to know. You're going to need to know this is the one with Wales and you understand what I mean by that. Sure is it the it's the message. Save the whales. And and you'll you'll you'll get it all the way through. This is probably the one movie that up to maybe up a two two thousand nine hundred J.. Abrams release and maybe even more. So than that one that non trekkies. We'll get into like like this. One has a little bit more of that. Mass appeal that broad appeal. Which is why we're GONNA watch it? The other thing that you need to know is wrath of con the search for spock and the voyage. Home form a trilogy of movies each one picking up right where the last one left off. Okay okay so you're Kinda go see this look on your face. So why are we skipping three. Because in here's the thing if you were to skip three and just go straight to four. They will tell you within the first few minutes everything you need to know that happened. Okay like like all the all the key things that happen. They'll tell you what it was and then you can just if you just go okay. Okay so that happened. Let's move forward. I know you well enough. At least I think you're GONNA go. Oh that have. I've got to see how it happened. Even if it wasn't great like I gotta go see out happen so oh yeah like you said. There's a very good chance I'm GonNa Wash so do we. We won't do a whole episode about it but I would like to know But the next movie we're doing for this podcast is star trek for the voyage home. So I hope you enjoy that film you might see not So we'll do that one and then we'll have one more film after that and then guess what it's time for the next iteration and I'm very very excited to get into next generation talked about all the changes yet again. Get into that particular a a series so matt with that Thanks for taking us through this really i. I hope everybody expected this to be an extra long episode. Because we're talking about a movie. It's not just a single fifty minute episodes so matt. Thanks for taking us through. Thanks for watching it with US and letting US join your adventure on it. Why don't you tell the folks out there where they can get in touch touch with you if they want to talk to you about anything you've said tonight? The best place to do that is over on twitter at as a matter of met. And if you guys want to get in touch with me you can find me at Brent Allen live across all the social media's or the show you can find the show at -demia pot gmail.com for an email in your thoughts. Matt already told you email in some thoughts on on this in order to find us on facebook and our discussion group there had been me up pod or you can find us on twitter as well pot or if you WANNA call leave us a voicemail. We would love to to be able to listen to that and we'll respond to these in the future of coming answering the hills episode that number of seven zero two five one eight trust that suddenly to five hundred eighty eight seven three five And I guess that's really GonNa do it for us. It's GonNa wrap this up so until next time on room star trek voyage home live long and prosper peace among dog life.

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