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"The. Change. Between Hello again everyone welcome back to ghost with the twin peaks podcast. I'm one of your co host Charles Skaggs. Waiting for ghost. Would force to reopen. Months. That and waiting. I know it's getting Kinda tiresome, isn't it? would be open if people would wear a damn mask right right, so we're not here to preach, but we kind of are we to? Wear a mask, okay? Apparently we are. Is Coming for dinner. Where a mask exactly all right so I guess we are. I stand corrected. We are here to preach. But because we went up reopen. Ghost would force you guys. We want to go outside and do all that so so everybody be responsible. Be Smart. Be Safe. Okay! All right in the meantime as we wait for everyone on the in America to Kinda, get their acts together. talk here episodes of nine. Is something that we've been waiting for to talk about for quite a while. You know we bring it up here. We bring up there and here episode seventy nine. We are finally got to talk Mulholland drive. Oh Holland drive yes, the two thousand one new noir mystery film written and directed by of course David. Lynch because that's what we do here. And You know we're going to be talking a little bit about the criteria, but mostly we're going to be saving that for our follow up episode episode eighty as we need engine a special features. But the criterion collection was released on October Twenty Seventh Twenty fifteen. We are so behind Charles I. Know Right. This is one what we spent the past year discussing the return so. Right. So that took a little while because you know, we're on a two week schedule. Anyway so? So. This is something we've been wanting to talk about. Obviously, you know there's a lot of connections to twin peaks actors in this and I just this is a film that Lot David Lynch players here and you know, and but a lot of new ones, too a lot of ones the people that he hasn't. Hasn't worked with before this one like Laura Elena, Harring or Justin throw although he worked with. Just throw later on in. Do you, do you mean? The Countess. Exactly exactly. So. Now, obviously, this is a film that's GonNa. Take a little. Effort on our part to try to discuss. Yes, this is another David Lynch film like eraserhead. That isn't exactly linear and David Lynch's not explaining it no. He's just saying you know this is. This is a love story in the city of dreams, and that's all he's given, you know. Although he did you know? Apparently? He gave some clues in ten clues. I wrote these down. That was in the original DVD release. There was like a little card insert. Right David Lynch's ten clues to unlocking this thriller. The question of course is. Can you actually trust what David Lynch's telling you? No No No I don't i. don't trust what David. Lynch's telling me because. David Lynch shows me what he wants me to see. And the rest of it is up to me is how I feel about him as a director and that's part of why Lovin. I mean you know? You don't I mean as David Lynch Fan. You know I know personally that. He's not gonNA explain everything. Because Hey I've watched three seasons of twin peaks. And I know I'm not going to get all the answers that I want I still don't know what's going on. You know and I've watched other things like blue velvet or This film Mulholland drive while at heart take your pick. Inland Empire Oh. Yeah so. Just, you know there's a lot of films that you know especially of his that he's not going to give you the full story, and because he may not even know the full story he just. He knows the kind of story he wants to tell. Right that maybe came to him in a dream, and he's just trying, and he's trying to put it up on screen for everybody to share with right. He wants to show you something. Yes, and whether or not what he wants to show, you is in a linear fashion. Is Neither here nor there. Yeah, exactly so so. I'm here with my wonderful. Coho, Zan and then sprouse and We're GONNA. Try to break this down as best as we can. So bear with us as we go through this because. What I think is GonNa? Be a lot of fun as we talk about this. And Sheriff we got a lot to talk about because. There's a lot going on in this movie. And so we might as well without any further. Let's start. Let's start breaking his damn a little bit. So. I should mention that. Of course. This room movies like two hours twenty six minutes. And and it's first two hours are apparently want story, and then we get a completely different story for that final half hour right right? So that's GonNa take some explaining obviously just when it starts to be porn. Does a one eighty on you exactly so. Porn and then flips it right. And you fell for it like the fascist are so. Little Nell That line. And when that was good pinkie. So Little bit of A. Notes about awards that were film received so. David. Lynch apparently received the. Hope I'm pronouncing this right pre deal. Love me's own seen. Apologies. On. San I'm very. Thank you for granted you. Did Not Take French German high school Susumi but that's essentially the best director award at the two thousand one con film, Festival. Y- and of course Lynch was nominated for best at the Seventy Fourth Academy Awards. But lost to Ron Howard for a beautiful mind. Fill that is a decent film in my opinion, but nowhere near. The level of this film, Mulholland drive I mean. Don't get me wrong. I've got nothing against Ron. Howard I like him as a director, but I feel like David Lynch. Does a little bit more with medium of film than most directors do right and when you see somebody like that. You know I would like to see. I would like to see more recognition for. The creativity behind it and I think it's I think it's hard for some people because it is so non linear. and. A beautiful mind either. I mean I am not going to try and sit here and tell you that I don't wish I haven't been wishing I. Was Jennifer. Connelly since I was eleven years old? But that's. You know it's not one of those room like what really? That's what that's. What really? I mean like I said I. Have Nothing Against Ron. Howard is director. I think very competent director. I just don't. I just don't think he's obviously as imaginative as David. Lynch, or creative. David Lynch I think he's a fantastic. Your teller traditional storyteller. Right and I think he does a great jobs with and there's nothing. There's nothing that. Of Real. Of Real a true stories like a Apollo Thirteen or A Beautiful Mind or That boxing one. Oh A. With. I know here talking with Russell Crowe again yeah. Okay Russell Crowe and Renee Zellweger and he's a boxer. I can't remember Al.. Blurted out later when it's inappropriate, yeah, I just know that obviously Ron Howard. Did he directed Apollo Thirteen? And so low, believe it or not so yeah. Which I love. Your fans at hated it, but I loved Solo. So pretty underrated personally and one of my all time, favorite comedies, which is ridiculous, but I love it is night shift. Did he also. He also jerked splash. If I remember correctly, he did direct splash. which is probably my favorite role that John Candy ever did. So I mean John. Candy Great in. Uncle Buck but my favorite is probably splash so. So obviously nothing is Ron Howard. He's a perfectly acceptable director. Nothing against him. But I obviously. We're favored toward David Lynch in that regard. All right. So I guess some Trivia on this one and. We kinda talked about that a little bit before started recording tonight, but This movie Mahone drive originally was conceived as a TV series. And back in ninety, nine, nine, hundred, ninety, nine, they did a ninety minute pilot produce for touchstone television intended for the ABC television network. Right and it was also going to be attended for it was a French co production, so it was also going to be on French television, right and TV executives said yet. No, yeah, yeah, so apparently Lynch sold the idea to ABC suits. Based solely on a story of read emerging from the car accident. Her purse, containing one hundred twenty five thousand dollars in cash along with the blue key. Right in in the premise was. Betty would try to help her figure out who she was That's the that was the elevator pitch. Apparently and I'm sure that ABC after having. Twin peaks right. They were probably asking Okay David to find out who she is I mean. Please tell us we're GONNA. Find out who she is. RIGHT SPOILER ALERT! We don't so. I think that might have turned them off. A little bit I might have turned off ABC because they've done that before. And they had great success with twin peaks, but they done that before, and they'd gone down that road before and I don't WanNa. Do it again now. From what I found out from, my research was that Lynch showed ABC a rough cut of the pilot. The guy that they picked through watch the pilot needed. In, ABC immediately cancelled it. And then Lynch goes around and you know it talks it over with I guess a French investor or something and and. They decided that they live basically re. Re mench rewrote. The script expanded it. When they decided to turn into feature film at that point. Nice Yeah. Now interestingly on a twin peaks trivia note. Supposedly Sherline Fan. Yes, that Audrey. Horne Sherline Fan. said in a two thousand fourteen interview that the original idea came during the filming of twin peaks. As a spinoff film. For her character Audrey Horne. That's interesting right, so we got another right, which makes me wonder why maybe that's why Lynch did what he did to Audrey in return. She, the little girl who lives down the lane and this one mean interesting. We get another car accident your with. sherline fan that'd be interesting, yeah. Right yeah. I would have watched that I'm sure you would have watched that because I know you bet big lottery hord fan you're. A Big Fan. Fan as well. Would have been all over the as well. She's one of the greatest humans that has ever graced the earth. She's the sweetest woman. So if that's the case you know, somehow that evolved from a Audrey Horne spinoff into. Something completely different. So. Now for Different. Well at the time that Mulholland drive was being done as a TV show. Sherwood Fed was working on rude awakening for. was that going on at that time Yup an interesting? Helps Yellow. This connects a little bit. So! So speaking of twin peaks cast. We run them down. Because Hey, we're twin peaks podcast right yet, so the actors that. Appear in this one. The only watts, obviously I and four course as inland empire exactly then you. Does the dual role of Betty Elms. Or Diane Selwyn take. Your pick. In this one of course, she played Jenny, Jones and then we had Robert. Forster turns up as detective McKnight. So share free. Truman right there. Share Frank Notice for curate. When you said Frank I saw Harry in my head. That's really weird. Right probably listening because normally when you say sheriff. Harry S Truman. That's probably why. Shouldn't be too hard to remember that. I was just dumb on my part. I'm sorry that's right. We've been talking just went brain. It's I. Have Quarantine Brain, which means which means drink every night brain exactly so. You're you're you're you're podcasting with assisted? chemical podcasting. Yes, this is. Mike cast your adult podcasting. How's that? That makes it sounds so much sexier it's. All Year. All right so we also had dead is huge podcast. There's no reason for you to sleep on the couch, right? Well obviously. We'll talk about that scene late. We're GONNA talk about that a little bit yeah. Yeah because I'm sure. A lot of people didn't see that coming the first time that That, they watch this film. Brent Briscoe as. Detective, Dumb Guard, and. Of course. Yeah Recipe's detective. Right, yeah, sadly, we lost briscoe not too long ago, but yeah detective Dave McNally and the return. now had ngelo battle Amenity as Luigi Castellini the espresso hating mobster. Tends to. Voices displeasure with Espresso by spitting it out into a Napkin bidding it into a Napkin. Yes, and I remember seeing these news to the time list at least user Napkin good friend I just remember watching this movie The for singling but. This is so great exactly so our favorite twin peaks. Composer turns up in acting role here so. In addition to doing the music for this film score. Nothing against Dean Hurley, but he's our favorite. Come on. We know we were. We were Angelo. Fans before your Dean Hurley fans, so that's the thing de knows that our heart is large enough for the both of us were. Just know your place. Dean Hurley that's. Dino's yeah okay. there. We just needs. He needs another twenty five years. He'll get there exactly exactly so Rebecca del Rio. Who of course is one of our favorite roadhouse seniors the return? Makes her appearance as herself. Sorry. Issue there so. Yes. She said she's one of your favorites. Oh Yeah, yeah. I loved her performance of no stars, and you look address the Chevron Dress. I did yeah so. But Yeah I really enjoyed her performance. No Stars In des No surprise here. She does incredible. Performance of Spanish version of Roy Emerson's crying. We'll talk about that. You can sit there and listen to it and not start crying. Like Laura. Harring and Naomi Watts I. Think you might need to check your pulse. Of course. Is it live or is it memorex as we'll discuss who cares? It's beautiful. I know. Michael J. Anderson turns up. As to Roque as rock. So let's rock I guess I know. Let's rack so Of course he played the arm. Slash little man from another place. In, the original twin peaks series and Hey Dunkin Todd shows up and form a Patrick Fischler. He does poor per Dan. Yeah, put shows up. Is Dan the guy who gets basically scared into a parent coma by. Yeah. It's a heart attack. Yeah, yeah, by the bum behind winky's. Who obviously. We're GONNA talk about as well Oh. Yeah, for sure so we have lots of things to talk about other cast of note of course Laura Elena, Harring or just now, Laura. As, reading tests yes, as Rita Slash Camilla, Rhodes one of you calling her the Countess because. She, married the great great grandson of Otto von Bismarck. Really Yeah So. Trivia point his full title is Count Karl? Von Bismarck shown housing. So. They were divorced. Let's have a really big business card. Siri. It's like A. It's like a three by five card. Say. Here's my business card. It's like this is an index card. Now. You gotTA. You gotta you gotTa. Put in your briefcase. Can't you put your pocket? They they got divorced, but she kept the title of Countess. Trusting so yeah, and she also not not in twin peaks, but also inland empire. So you've got so many people that were in something tangentially. Does something Lynch Definitely Lynch even. Even Monty Montgomery Yeah Yeah who played the cowboy. He Produced Wild at heart frontier and hotel room. Right I didn't know about hotel room. Yeah, he did Hotel Room, interesting and. Vincent Castellanos who was Federico and twin peaks. He was ed the guy that That Joe the hapless hitman shoots at the very beginning right. He's there and. Just throw. Just throw yes, up in. Devon Berk. And he's off the Adam catcher yeah. Yep Scott coffee is trick in twin peaks also window empire. Was He trick? I didn't realize he was trick. He is also my favorite student. In. Ben Stein's class. In Fair Day off Oh okay? the. The Holly smoot Tariff Act Oh. It's anybody you know. Vice President Bush called this in one thousand nine hundred anyone. Is he the guy that just kind of like with his head on and like he's looking down gotta like is. He's the with his head cocked like. Mouth Breather. Got It so. He's. so He's been around, so yeah, there's there's a lot of. I looked I liked her. But didn't see her right so I need to. I need to pay closer attention, but PHOEBE Augustine isn't clubs, Olympia somewhere. You know who else is in clubs Lindsey Oh. Who Else Shirley? What I didn't see that Oh. Yeah, she's there. When when the when the? It's only obviously just a quick cameo, but yeah, when when Betty and Rita walk into the theater and they start going down the aisle toward their seat. Even notice that she's off to the right. See you guys we got to. This is why your own DVD's? You can watch this kind of look for this. This is why you listen goes the twin peaks podcast because we tell you stuff like this. We tell you silly tree like. Did you know Charles Yeah that Angela Battlement T. Did the. Ninety two summer, Olympics. I did not know so he did the opening. Did you even? I I if I understood correctly the opening theme to the Nineteen Ninety two summer Olympics. You got it. Yeah, so take that settled. And for all of my Elvis Costello Fan friends out there. He's done some projects with. Not Elvis Costello. CRANBERRIES fans. No relation Stella's ex wife but delayed. Projects. You know I'm a big. Fan so that's cool. I didn't know that. Yeah he sure did intend with Tim Tim booth from. From James. Bond, okay, yeah, there was a delayed album song late. No, no, no, it's called. It's called booth. The Bat Angel Okay. Yeah, so I recommend looking at his. James Song I know is laid. You probably know. Sit down. Oh yes, yes. Sit Down next to me, yeah. Yeah! Okay, got it. Yeah and. Jeanne Bates. Yeah, there, you go Jeanne Bates one of the people that meet betting on the plane and one of the little tiny people at the end, right. Is Mary's mother in. Eraserhead, Get up I didn't know that that's her. Yeah, she plays. Mrs X. in I learned something today. You guys she. She knows how to cook just like regular chickens. So? Yeah, there's a lot of lynch players all over this. Yeah, well. One of the great things we talked about this in the pocket David. Lynch is obviously extremely loyal to his actors. And probably you know, imagine like He. He knows you know what they can do and he knows. The kind of roles that he probably wants or. The type of actors that he wants for this type of role, so he's like okay I've got my stable of actors. Let me see if I can get so and so to play this role. Right right he's. You know he knows what he's looking for, and he gets. I think he gets what he needs out of who he works with, so so if if so basically, if you're you know if you're good in and Lynch legs, Love Your Work and you like him, and you get along I. would say you know you got at least the occasional work coming your way if you get the lynch process yeah. I think that's probably a big deal to him because he is so. UNORTHODOX, with his storytelling, and some actress can't deal with it, they don't like not knowing what script about and stuff yeah. Not to not to speak ill of the dead or anything like that, but I don't think he's you know. I? Don't think you know. Chad Everett is your you know no, David Lynch cutting I. Don't like Chad Everett at all so well. Somebody, we should probably mention because one of the things about this is that he brings in a few kind of old Hollywood types Sim classic Hollywood people. Yeah, so so we including Chad Everett who plays Jimmy cats in this who is just? A wee bit ski in this. Chad. Chat ever ski like. I always felt like Chad. Everett probably is in real life, the type of character he plays an airline to probably we should. Obviously that's where I primarily know him from Simon Kurtz in airplane to the sequel. Simon's turned to jelly. The, greatest sound effects in history out of What are the best lines in that? Whole you. Started Jelly, His whole like, but he's going to be in charge of babies, Mr Mrs Simon Kurtz and that's an order. I'll bet he's really liked that in real life. Because there is that there is I believe it's a Dick Cabinet show where he talks about how he has animals, but his wife is his favorite animal. He owns Oh really oh. Yeah, look that up on Youtube where he says well. My wife She's my. She's my favorite animal. That I own and Lily Tomlin was also on the show. That you own. Oh, I have to leave and then Lily Tomlin just up and walks away interest, and then he makes a comment after it's gone. That I. Think is a dig at Lily Tomlin's lesbianism. Okay where he's like well. My wife really does does enjoy being cared for by a Man That with a woman like I think he's. He's really kind of I think she likes being cared for by a man. And I think he's really digging it Lily Tomlin when he says that she wasn't open back then, so this must have been. She wasn't necessarily, but I still think you know. into the public and open in Hollywood or Hollywood people know. Tell me that people didn't think the tyrone power and. We're. Friends. Like. People who knew Cesar, Romero and tyrone power. They knew it was going or rock Hudson for that matter. You'RE GONNA. Tell me that doors day didn't know what rock Hudson was up to right. They were like besties. Of course she knew all that stuff so anyway. I felt like it was a little bit of a day, but yeah. I feel like Chad. Everett is probably that he's probably probably exactly. I've and that's why he was so good at it because he he's primarily. But he because he is that guy, and Miller turns up as COCO. The did you know the end Miller has a pair of tap shoes in the Smithsonian? I believe it yeah. Yeah, she was choose dancer, and so yes, she was in the films. Kiss McKay on the town. Easter Parades Parade Yeah. There's a whole list there, but she's got a star on the walk of fame exactly so, but apparently. This is like her last film. It was exactly her last film, so she didn't really do anything she didn't do any film. From nine hundred, seventy six, until this movie I think she did the occasional TV spot, but this was her last right first film appearance since nineteen, Seventy six, her last film appearance at before she passed away. So also in in that same apartment. Yes. Leader Yeah so Damian's bomb turns up. That's how Damian's. That's Davies an thorn. Stevens mob Damian's mom. Or is it? All. We know I'm taking. A stand up at stake wreck. What you're right, so, but what deeming ends up getting sent with some relatives write in the sequel. So you're right. It's not his mom. Oh okay, but but in four and. Again I have like so it's like an. Honest Lebron is. Absolutely. You had me second guessing myself again. You know it's okay. I totally apologize but so. I know relation. No relation. But yeah an thorns, probably like an aunt or something of of Damian's that. Probably. Hey the parents are dead, so somebody's gotTA. Take this kid right. Yeah, yeah and know. But. She was like in the heat of the night, the nineteen sixty seven. Film classics. Yeah she also was in. Shampoo. FOR WHICH LEADING! Won An Oscar for that, so yup, and let's let's let's not forget James Karen. Who I don't know if you're a big poltergeist, Fan Turrell's. I'd like poltergeist. I'm not a big Fan, but I like poltergeist. Yes, the original began for guy so the guy that Criti- Nelson is screaming at son of a bitch. Move the cemetery, but you left the bodies. Didn't you all? That is James Karen. Yes, that's cool. I just found out, yeah! was good friends with Buster Keaton at the end of towards the end of your life. He was a good friend of author Keaton's interesting. Yeah, so now an actress that. Is has a pretty notable appearance in this Melissa George. Now? A lot of people don't know her. Not Familiar with her, but I became a fan of hers when she was on the TV series alias. She's. It didn't watch that. Yes, he and she's in season she's. She's primarily in season three, but but she's really. She was really good on that. Recently, if you're a star trek discovery fan like I. She played the modern. You know the the current version of Veena. Who is one of those characters? That appeared in the original star trek pilot the cage. Captain Pike original people exactly so so essentially. This is Pike. Pike is in season two as captain of the US discovery. So she gets the acquainted with. Veena. So. Played this time by Melissa George. That see that's one of the cool things about that. Show is just that you know you're really were warded as a star Trek Fan yeah exactly and I'm hoping that will continue because now. Pike's getting his own TV show. With strange strange new worlds, which is the title? I heartily recommend because. Yeah! I was published in Star Trek Saints. New Orleans back acts really. Were Title. Yes, she plays Camila roads before. Yeah, she's the short hearing place. She's the original. Camilla Rhodes or That is the girl. Yes, that is the girl she's. The girl appears she was the girl the first time around. Yes, Djilas the girl that all this mobsters one in who Mr Rock, wants exactly initially yeah. Actor that turns up. That's in I. Think is particularly fond of this film, Billy. Ray Cyrus. Billy Ray Cyrus is one of my favorite parts of this movie as loved? Guy. I got the pool. She got the pool man. I wanted to buy that judge of Rolls Royce. I Love Billy Ray Cyrus in this movie because it's at the time. When this movie came out in two thousand and one, we really hadn't heard from billy ray Cyrus, right. We're four awhile. And I don't even I. Don't even know where we were in. The scheme of things isn't comes to him and this. Is this obviously after breaking hard? Oh Yeah. It was like ninety, three, ninety, four or something like that. Yeah, and so everybody knew billy ray Cyrus Ganz before. Hannah Montana, though see I think yeah. I think it was close to being because I think around this time. Hannah Montana wasn't around yet, but I think it was still lizzy McGuire type of world. There's usually only one. Thousand Six sitcoms that would have been five years after this. Yeah, so we really hadn't heard too much about billy ray Cyrus, but the one thing we knew about billy ray Cyrus is that he has the most epic mullet in the history of mullets. It's up and it's. Who's got a better mullet billy ray, Cyrus macgyver. And don't say Simon Lebon macgyver her close to like here. Billy Ray. Cyrus is all like. It. Depends on what you look for in a mullet so I I think you're selling. Your mullet's too short. That's what I'm saying. I don't know. I'm loyal loyal to the macgyver mullet, but. Dini Anderson I'll Richard Anderson mullet. Okay, that's a good one. That was pretty iconic as well but. So I remember when I first saw this movie in the theater. and. Adam the. CASHERE- Yes, yes, the amount of cash director character just. Just throw his character. Comes home after having a bad day on the set. and. He sees the Pool van in his driveway right, but he doesn't see the pool guy anywhere, and then he goes and finds the pool guy in his bedroom in his bed with his wife. and. He just says you've just got to turn around and forget about this man I mean he's just so like nonchalant. He's like I'm doing your wife, but you just gotTa. Deal with it, man. That's how that's how it works. And she's laid back just he's just like okay. You know this is happening I know this is happening, so let's just talk. Frankly, yeah, let's I'm not even going to pretend yeah exactly. So it's negative, hide under the you know in a in a bedroom or something. Yeah, yeah, exactly so. Front. And then, Adams wife is like. Why are you even here? Like she's really horrible to him. It's a lot of golf because you get the first of all, you get the impression that house. was bought because he's director exactly. It's. It's. That he, he's he. Paid for it. Yeah, it's probably it's probably his. Work that paid for it. I don't know if the house was there before she was there or what, but you sort of get that sense especially when you have. Two people who were kind of just shitty people, yes. There's there's probably a real superficial nature to their relationship, right? But. You Know I. Am not going to sit here and judge what other people do in their marriage. Okay, yeah, you want to have an open marriage. If you're polly, I don't care. That's your business. But it it takes a special kind of goal in my opinion to have an affair. In your own house in your own marital bed. Okay, yes. Have you ever seen in cool look like know you're going to have an affair ticket elsewhere is what you're saying. Or as Ironically as. As Dana. Carvey used to say take it to Mulholland. I! Don't know if you've ever seen the movie. Silver linings playbook yes. Well the Bradley, Cooper character is in a mental hospital. Because he almost murdered someone, he almost beat somebody to death. And I'm not saying he should. As Chris Rock likes to say I'm not saying he should have killed him. I'm just saying I understand. and. He said what happened was is Bradley Cooper comes home. Finds his wife in his house with another man having sex in the shower, not only are they in his house. His his well. It's. So he comes home. Finds his wife in the shower with another guy and in in their house in their married house. Yes, and the song that played at their wedding for their first dance is what is on the Stereo right? And he loses his freaking mind and goes off on this guy. Understand the guy. The. Guy Has the gall to look at him and say. I think you should leave. To somebody in his own house. And Bradley Cooper goes crazy on and I can't say I'm shocked I mean that's. That's some goal, so she's got some goal, so he takes her jewelry. Adam takes her jewelry. goes to the garage fines paint. That looks like PEPCO abysmal. Yeah I don't know what. Serious Pink. Yes, it's a serious pink. And just Joshua box the the pink room. It's the pinker that's that's what's in the house. Yeah, there's there's you know. He's got a string bass player. In this room. Pours the pain all over the jewelry and she's screaming at him trying to get him to stop so billy ray Cyrus comes out of the bedroom. Picks him up and pushes them out and says. That ain't no way to treat your wife man. I don't care what she's done. Larry. Is the best three minutes at this whole movie The deadpan expression. Most, it's the funniest three. It's whole movie I love the palate cleansing nature of the Billy Ray Cyrus appearance in this movie. Because, there's obviously some very dark stuff in this movie, but Billy Ray Cyrus, but Lynch. Lynch has as a way of like. Maybe he realizes that okay. This movie's getting even a little too dark for me. We need some comedy here. We need billy. Ray Cyrus his. Exactly, so so here's another. One of those where you're like he's. He's a perfect character. Because he has that. Reputation as being kind of a hillbilly. So it works for him here because it really works for. The bill, pool guy. He's the Hillbilly Pool Guy, but he's also. A lot bigger than Adam and a little bit more manly than Adam. So Shaina guns big time in this movie. Sons out outguns out and he's also very. I! Don't know what I want to say I. DON'T WANNA. Say Moral, but he definitely has. A code of conduct that I know your wife cheating on you, but you don't propane on her jewelry. Interesting. Interesting set of morality. Yeah, and so he's he was very recognizable. And I hate to say this because it sounds more elitist than I want it to okay. But. When it comes to David I. Don't think there were a lot of David Lynch fans who were big achey breaking heart fans. I think that's a safe assumption I would bet that a lot of people who were watching David Lynch movies when the whole line dancing craze came about, they were very dismissive of it and sort of looked down on it, so yeah, that's. Not exactly the same crowd really right. It's nice crowd any had that. You know noth- nothing against it, but definitely. It was a different the same way I think the Achey. Breaking Heart would have thought that they did. Lynch crowd was Weirdos exactly. So you know in in general like stereotypically in general because. These two groups do not meet on the ven diagram, not usually. Although apparently, they do here at this one in this one scene and it's one scene. Yeah, like I, don't I. DON'T WANNA. Say Uneven where the circles overlap. Yes, I don't I. Don't want to be a person that ever says that anyone. Creative Endeavor is inherently better than another one. All I know is I got so damn sick of that song. Just because it was everywhere, you and a lot of people don't worry I. Think I could listen to that song sooner than I could listen to roll with it by Steve Winwood. Okay, because that is the song I always go to when I say I can't believe. I listen to the song. Thousand Times in one week of a summer. That was overplayed so. Interesting so there are some songs like that where I'm like I. If I never hear, that's. Too soon and it can break. Your heart was one of them because even even. Achey breaky song by weird. AL, Yeah Okay like thirty seconds entered on I can't. I'm out I heard this one way too much. Memories, and that song is about how that song was overplayed. Even that I'm like I gotTA. I gotta back away, so he was, he was recognizable from being gigantic like five years before. So, everybody sort of I think there were some people when I saw the theater that we're like. So people started to Giggle and I know this is. It fear out like what Oh. My billy ray cyrus like everybody figured it out because he was everywhere for a while. Yeah, so I mean I. Essentially Billy Ray Cyrus as the last guy. You would ever expect to turn up the David Lynch film. And these. And in the. David Lynch film in the bed of one of your main characters. I will forever have a soft spot in my heart for billy ray Cyrus for exactly that'd be really re Cyrus. Another one is another country I. Do not think country musicians. Get enough. Recognition for being good musicians. He's a very good guitar player. And so. So I'm not trying to slouch him I. Just really hated that Song! I'm sure I'm sure Dj. Nick would agree with you on that one. I Dj Nick should at least understand what it was like in one, thousand, nine, hundred hundred. Show. The show, he should at least understand what it was like. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, forty, two to have to be that was that was pop radio that was country radio music. It was your grandma liked it everywhere, but I will forever have a soft spot for Billy Ray Cyrus because this movie, okay? All right so. The other cast members of note that you want to bring up before we move on well I. Did want to bring I wanted to go back for a second. To Jeanne Bates Mary's Mary his mother. was in a twilight zone. And the you of course being a huge twilight zone fan, big twilight zone fan, and this is an episode that most people know it's a good life. Oh which is the one with the little boy who can wish people into the cornfield with bill mummy. Me As a little boy? Yeah, interesting. In that in that episode? All the families all get together. His his mother is played by. clarks Leach men. But there's a group of neighbors that all get because of course anthony. Street is the only street left in the world, apparently according to everybody else so because he's wished everybody away. So. They get together. For somebody's birthday party and the guy whose birthday it is, he just starts yelling like. Why are we putting up with this somebody? Pick up a table or chair and hit him in the end it and then Anthony wishes him into being a Jack in the box. Yeah! Jeanne Bates plays the wife of the Jack in the box. So, she's. Just wanted to shout out to the twilight zone episode. That's cool. That's cool all right. Now obviously, we talked about. This is GonNa be really hard to break this movie down, so here's our attempt. Okay so. Break this into like five topics maybe six depending on how we do. In how goes topic number one? Let's talk about Betty. So Betty Elms in Rita. In what we might as well call reality number one. Reality Number One. I was originally going to call the dream, but Zan corrected me wisely and so. How do you know what's the dream on the re the real world? So that's the thing. This is David Lynch I. Don't know what's the dream and what isn't because it does. Not to get too far ahead of ourselves, but it does feel like something happens, and then we wake up into a more gritty reality. And I think that you know because especially right now in this time of just living through horrible nece all the time. That I feel like we are conditioned to think that the grittier the reality of the more real it might be. Right. But. What is with Irene and Irene's husband, being those little people that come out of the box who come? Who are who are running around Diane's apartment like that to me, makes this all bets are off? That's why I don't know what to dream in. What's real so you like you said reality reality to or what I was saying pre solent CEO and post. And that's and that's another great way to put. It is because. because it almost with clubs, and unless he has seen we're going to. We're obviously devoted segment to that, but. It almost like that's kind of like a transition between these town realities now they do tend to kind of crossover. these two realities back and forth a little bit right we've got. We've got glimpses of the second year in the first reality. We've got some similar names you've got. The waitress who starts out as Diane, but then she's betty later on right. And the Real Diane shows up in in the betty reality as the dead body that Betty and Rita come across in. Yes, the apartment right so. So. Yeah, there's there's a lot of criss cross a little bit here, so that's. These these these two realms, these two realities kind of Blur into each other at times. That's obviously going to make this a little challenging to talk about so bear with us as we try to break this down. Watching David Lynch. You know how to keep up exactly exactly. This isn't your first Rodeo I'm sure now, so so should we just try to run through this as? know the film goes, or how do you WanNa do this? I think I think the only linear way we can do. This is chronological now so all right so the movie opens. After a little bit of a jitterbug sequence. Right which doesn't really come doesn't really make sense until you see the Sylvia. North Story Right. And even that we don't get a whole lot of what's going on with that why I think it also that we don't get until we see. Naomi Watts Diane where we find out that she wanted jitterbug contest and came from Canada. She wanted Jitterbug. Contest came from Canada, and it starts out. You're thinking okay here's this these nice. Sixties. clean-cut kids, yes, and then cut to betty getting off the plane. This clean cut kid. Yeah, so maybe you're thinking that, and then you see the Sylvian North Story and you're wondering is this. Does this something to do with that? She's going addition to that. And then you find out what the jitterbug contest you're like. Oh, it's. It's all just sort of tangentially just sort of right. It's the I just thought of this, and I probably said it before, but I just thought of it again with this particular movie that David Lynch plot is like Sam Beckett's theory of time. It's. Here's the beginning of your life. Here's the end of your life, and it's not just a big string. You crumple it up and all the pieces touch each other right. And that's what's going on. It's there's all these tangential things that are touching each other that don't necessarily relate to one another in an that's something that's very common with Lynch obviously that. These little tidbits that. They're not directly related to one another, but they like you, said tangentially you. Touch one another a little bit. Yes, exactly all right so so. We see. This Limo this Cadillac as we're told. Going along Holland drive above Los Angeles. and. Then somebody is frigging tailgating, right? and. What have we learned from David Lynch movies about tailgating? Don't tailgate. How many currently? Keep your ticked to stop at a safe right to see if we stop otherwise Robert, Louisiana is gonNA. Lay into! Yeah, you know how how many currently so you need to stop safely when you're going fifty five miles and her six six, frigging curling's okay. I want you to get a manual. I want you to read that mother effort. Exactly now, wish you tell me you're not gonNA tailgate. We really need to discuss that. That's so need to discuss that. So this is where we're. We see Laura Harring as. At this point, we do Brunette getting the limo. The driver stops gets her out of the car at gunpoint or tells me get out of the car gunpoint, but before she gets out of the car. The. Wacky teens that apparently drag racing or something. plow into the Limo Yep. So the drivers were told her killed, but. the woman. Brunette gets out of the CAR. She's kind of obviously affected by the accident. Starts walking down the hill. Toward! Like like you know it's. It's kind of like on. The road is kind of like alongside this kind of Cliff, mobile and drivers in the Hollywood hills. Yeah, exactly so she goes down the hill. Yes, yet toward toward the city. Braved the distance because and then she ends up going to this -partment complex. And then she sneaks it to one of the departments that belongs to Ruth Elms. Ray Betty's aunt Ruth Betty Betty's aunt, Ruth. We find out later. WHO's leaving by this point? And because her her niece, betty is going to be coming to stay, so she ends up. Hiding in. The apartment passes out. and Later she's been. She has a head injury. Yes, exactly. So so essentially, maybe a little concussion do who knows. And then, of course we've got some police detective that kind of later, come across the accident and and one of them. You know probably I think it's rob foresters. McKnight. Kind of. He kind of like gets the feeling that Oh. Hey, she must have walked off into the woods that way. Down the hill. Seeing a David Lynch movie who would walk off into the woods? What's exactly then never? That never happens characters going. Right that's you. Have you have a? Midnight Dom Guard which are not exactly the most. On it always officers right exactly. It's not exactly the shield is. Let's put it that way. New or the wires yeah. So Betty. We're introduced. Betty, who shows up? You know rise from Los Angeles from Deep River Ontario. In she's exactly like your ideal actress from fifty s Hollywood. Why and just so happy why? Got She's got the the tight pink sweater. Looking very much like you know, just someone just stepped right out of that era. She kind of reminds me of like what have what would. You must have been like for lifebeat beater down exactly before before she hooked up with Dougie, I hooked up with that whoring gambler shown exactly. Yeah. Maybe maybe that's another reality. Where like you know, she ends up. Becoming Gene Jones in that. One day. I just blew your mind and I. Yeah, there's one more waitress it. winky's named Janey and Her to Or maybe the DELARE, ooh, ooh, see, that's the thing I mean. David Lynch movies are nothing but diners and awesome furniture. Why can't live in that reality? Show right well. Part of me wants to, but then part of me thinks about all the horrible stuff that goes on there, so maybe I will onto. I just want to be somebody innocuous like like. You know yeah. I just wanted like. I. Just want to be one of the customers at the diner. A double our that's. Yeah or Heidi Heidi. Yeah, there you go, you know he all the time hey GEICO. German I could do that there. You go there, you go. You know that's a good life goal I think. so she's She's apparently I think she must've spent the flight with these this elderly couple this older couple. Yeah and yeah, and Irene and Rearend, husband and She's talking about how like you know. She's hopes to make it big as an actress and her aunt. Ruth is allowing her to stay at her place. And, so they kinda part. Betty goes off in a taxi cab or something, and then we see the couple. Going off their taxi. And they had and they have the creepiest. Ask Big grins on their face. Something is up with them, and I just wonder if play. unnaturally distorted into these large smiles. That kind of this very black hole sun smile. Video. Yeah yeah that. that. Video where if you haven't seen the video, I would highly recommend it because it soundgarden. It's very good, but right because he's really exaggerated. Smiles that are that scared the crap out of me. When I first saw that video again got turn. Turn the channel so I wonder. So, what do you think they were smiling? I have a theory. I think they're the key to all of this I think they are to. The supernatural force that's behind all this day they are the firemen, and the and the Daito this. The senator died Daito Yeah. Yeah, and the reason I think that and again I'm not trying to get ahead of myself, but this is David Lynch. It's not linear thing no. When? We later. See that blue box. Yeah, you know. When we first opened the blue box and we just go right into it and it goes it goes. Right sexist didn't now starting to become gotten different reality, but then we see later, and they come out as these little tiny people that are just laughing hysterically like under the door. You know because they're so small. Kinda like cackling maniacally, go he. They're I think they're the key to everything. That is what that's. What starts this? Yeah, so so maybe this was just poor. Betty or you know in this in this reality at least runs afoul of these people. And they decide to like. Oh. Hey, let's just mess with your life. Yeah, it's just you know if if. It's a bad encounter. Let's put it that way. Just like Bob you know all it takes is one camping trip when you're fourteen and your life is ruined. He just kept flicking matches at me. Yeah seriously. So yeah, you know all it takes is one bug to go and your throat and run guide work. You're screwed. Pretty much so all right so she. Yeah so betty shows up at the apartment building her aunt, Ruth. How apartment she meets Coco. Played by Miller who's like I love Miller she's a great. You know like really friendly landlady type. She's really friendly. She's very caring and. She says you know. If they weren't any good, they wouldn't be living here because I'm a good judge of people. and. This is. I don't mean this in any offensive sort of a way, but. She is very classic old Hollywood right. And so you get the feeling that COCO is. You know who? She is in real life. That, she's classic Hollywood that she was in the movies, and now she owns this property and takes care of people here. The. Go ahead. Go sorry, go ahead and the reason I say that is because, and this is something that I have seen in older old Hollywood people. There's just way too much makeup because Hollywood is so dysfunctional, especially for women right in the sense that you can't look old, and you can't look fat in. You can't look short, and you can't look and other still Cetera et, Cetera, et, Cetera et, Cetera et Cetera, and you. You have to look like whoever it is at the time, and whoever it is at the time can can change. So. So the fact that Koko. Has That jet black dyed hair and way to Jamaica up? Just reminds me of just obviously not looking like her natural self would write just reminds me of classic classic Hollywood. These are women who just were used to getting dolled up all the time. And the ring too much to look younger, and they're dying their hair to look younger too much hairspray too much everything and I'm thinking if somebody like A. And again I don't mean to be an insult. I think it's I. Think it's the systematic Hollywood machine that makes people feel like they need to do this in this, and they are known no less beautiful, because are amazing women, but I'm thinking if somebody like. A Debbie Reynolds Aurelien Mary weather. And I hate to say it, but the last time I saw her a gates McFadden. Way Too much makeup. Shame, but that was, but I think that's the thing I mean that's that's the thing you have. Hollywood, everybody's got an expiration date. Until you are like Betty White. and. You're like this this. Quirky thing. Especially women have a real expiration date in Hollywood and I feel like she I feel like the way. She looked really told a lot of a story about her past that that David did necessarily give us yeah, but I think she had been. She had been betty at one point she had come to Hollywood. Well, there's some stuff. That's one of the things you know now that you bring it up. That's something that I kind of noticed vibe that I got. What I think would lynch was going for. With Betty, being the like aspiring actress that new like Wannabe New Hollywood. So essentially what you had in coca kind of looks out for for betty she really so essentially. It's like old Hollywood. That has been through some things they seen. Some things seen some things. They've already been placed. They've already been places and so so coco was kind of like only Hollywood. Looking out for new Hollywood a little bit. Yeah. So that's the kind of vibe. I got from that. I think so too yeah. so. She kotex Betty to her aunt's apartment. Betty goes inside fines Oh. Hey, there's like naked Brunette in the shower. Which I think is I think it's interesting because. Naturally assumes like Oh. Are you like a friend of my aunts or something? That's weird to me. I mean I. Right I feel like somebody. Would have told me that I feel like my aunt would have said. Oh by the way. Read is GonNa. Be there to like I would have been like pretty sure. What mentioned that? Yeah, yeah, but I think because. First of all the Rita character was naked so obviously very vulnerable and not a threat at the time. And! Maybe better being. To a little bit that is naive, and but also read it being injured and beautiful right? She seems a little. She seems a little less threatening. You know, so she's and. Again Benny probably thinks you know. Oh, cocoa knows everything that's going on in here. This is probably level. There's probably a lot of things going on with that, but yeah. That I'd be like the hell. Yes that that would have free freaks me out if that happened yeah! Now obviously you know, I might have a different reaction, but you know. Hey, you know finding naked Laura Harring in the in the shower, but you know I think you finding naked, Laura. Hearing the shower is going to be a little less terrifying than me finding could. Probably I think I'd come to it with a much more practical from a practical standpoint, yeah! Maybe terrifying. If you're like my wife, Lori was there and they can Laura. Harring was in the shower, but It'd be like yeah yeah. We should call the cops. This isn't this isn't right, is it? Yeah exactly you'd be? You'd be like. Should. Do something about this you'd be. You'd be like Seth Rogan in. A forty year old, virgin right there in the bathroom with Elizabeth banks as we should go from here. Michigan far away from here. We should get out here and he's like getting undressed is saying. We should. We should get out of here. so they talk a little bit. Of. Door hearing comes out and after seeing a Gilda movie poster. Starring of course Rita Hayworth. Nineteen forty six film. which was hanging up the bathroom? She calls herself Rita. She introduces herself as read it, but then later admits I. Don't remember who I really am. I don't know my name I have. So, we'll come back to the seventies I have Amnesia exactly. Yeah, same nausea was not a plot point that we'd seen. While no, but it's obviously something that comes up a lot in like. Soap Opera Troupe. It's a soap opera tope I feel like it was like a three's company type of. Like I feel like in the seventies. It was it was nothing but. In quicksand. Quicksands Echo in this going. Yeah it's. Yeah, if you've watched any episodes of Charlie's angels from the seventies, you knew the angels Scooby Doo. Like quicksand was everywhere, and I still didn't even know we're. Well the yeah. Yeah Amnesia for sure was it was a big one. So. Betty. Trying to help you that it's like okay. We need to figure this shit out. And so. They try to open a like looking at purse like okay. Maybe you've got some info. Identification and somebody can figure this out. One hundred twenty five thousand dollars exactly Oh, in a bizarre blue key, a blue key. That doesn't really look like a key. Yeah. So. Apparently the this is important to something. So what we do, we decide. We're GONNA. Listen to put in a hatbox in stored in the cloud. We're GONNA. WE'RE GONNA hide it in the closet. We don't know who's might be coming after this. Yeah, I'm sorry if you make one hundred twenty five thousand dollars in cash, and you don't know who you are. You can probably expect that somebody bad is looking for you, yeah! So so but meanwhile. They One of focus tenants Louise Bonner played by Lee. Grant shows up. Tries to warn betty that. Hey, there's trouble in there, so someone's in trouble. which has ever get signed a David Lynch film? When when a woman dressed up like stevie nicks with like a black veil over her head. Yeah, I'm so your apartment and tells you that there's trouble something's wrong. Yeah, yeah. This is like a Mega Goth Cenex. Secrecy, that's possible. Stevie Nicks. The and the and the psychic grandmother from A. PHANTASM. Up into one character here. Yes! Like stevie nicks went to hot topic, but basically. Yeah basically burn down hot topic well, that's a whole different thing. Sorry, that's the whole, yeah. so cocoa basically apologizes say look. Louise's clairvoyant in her warnings are often correct. Yeah, so you careful I don't know what's going on but I am going to trust you to take care of it exactly so this is apparently the you know. The big warning signs. Something's up here. Now her Betty's eight ruth range for an audition for Betty And so re runs lines with Betty. and which they think is Kinda funny because of that dialogue. It's not a good ice. Makes, it nearly watched us. Such a good performance actually makes it a little bit better than I think it really. Well Yeah, you know so so basically Betty shows up at the audition. And then we talked about Chad Everett, so his character is there. And She's supposed. Betty supposed to act against him in the scene. De Really GonNa chat ever total Chad Everett in this scene. He is so perfect for this because he's got really do believe. Chad ever is probably the kind of guy that would have sex with his best friend's daughter. And Chat ever it in the scene is rocking the Donald Trump. ORANGE, skin! If? He's like weighed ten and he's like fake tans way, too. Touchy feely with her before they even get touchy feely. Yeah, exactly! Yeah, it's he's. He's just kind of so because she does a really really good job because the scene is basically. What are you doing here? My parents are upstairs. Why are you still here and We should not. We should never have done this year. My Dad's best friend. This is terrible I hate you. I hate us both and just. Kill you and I love that where she it starts to get really passionate. It gets very erotic. It's erotic where she's. Like. She's like I. Hate you hate us. Both and she's. She's breathing really heavily, and it's a phenomenal acting performance. It's fantastic, and then it's like. To get out, or what right are Kellyanne? Yeah so good, right? Just memorizing of obviously the everybody else in the room thinks so as well. Everybody else is dairy by this air balloon away with andover with an erection. because. It's a really erotic radically done seen, but they're grabbing their scripts going like I'll just kind of. Script in front. In my lap here for a while. Anyway notebook as I walked to class. So. So. But, but apparently betty does so well that One of the agents there. Decides to take her to go see Adam casher. Who is casting for the Sylvian north story exactly so they go over there and. You know. UNBEKNOWNST to Betty. The part has been earmarked for Miller roads. Earmarked by Mr Rock and all the other exist. Mobsters. There's something really yeah, we'll talk. Separately but yeah. But essentially sort of like like Johnny Fontaine deal. With. Exactly exactly exactly. Now interestingly, Betty, Adam kind of make eye contact for a little bit as she walks and. Adams kind of looking at her like well that should be the girl, but I can't cast the garage. Yeah, because otherwise you know the cowboy will like. Destroy? Cowboys Toby which do in somebody who's frozen, my assets and stay in a crappy hotel exactly and I can't go back to my house because the pool guys there with its pool. Guys there and frankly, there's just pick paint everywhere. It's a mess and I don't want to clean it up. It's damned if I ended up. So, but betty panics a little bit. She's like. Something you know after that look. She panics and she's like well. I need to go back because hey. I need to keep this date with Rita that we were gonNA. Go check out Diane Selwyn place I had. I promised a friend. I'd help her I have to go I'm sorry I have to go. Yeah, so so she ends up back and they go. Betty Rita go to the park number twelve. which weird about that though is, it's almost it's almost like betty can sometimes smell a bad scene. But not enough. No, no, you know. She should be able to. I I feel like she should have been able to smell her way out of Danielle apartment. Cheryl yeah, exactly because you know. Hey, there's a corpse in there and sure it didn't smell very good. You think you. Would have been noticeable before they went inside and even just the whole when they get there and there's. Two guys case in joint and yeah, exactly yeah I think she's just caught up in the mystery of Rita I mean. Rita is serious very. You know very sweet and very beautiful, but very mysterious, and there is an air of danger around her that I. Think Intrigues, Betty. It's kind of like what happens with Comic Lachlan's character Jeffrey Beaumont and Blue Velvet. Exactly what happens? This dangerous, but this woman is mysterious. She needs my help. She's beautiful. I've got I've got to figure this out I. figure out what the Hell is going on here. Yeah, you're right. I didn't think about that. That is exactly the same kind of thing, yeah? So. So, he ended up apparently. Of Women Answers, but it's not Diane Selwyn. It's a neighbor. Who tells them women all? Hey! I, switched apartments with Diane. She's number seventeen. And I want to tell her that he still has some of my stuff. My plates maybe. Like I want my records back, okay? so they go to number seventeen. Knock on the door. Nobody Answers surprised because. Hey, there's a dead woman side so they betty breaks in so like a whole breaking and entering thing going on. And then it's all dark of course and disturbing, and because hey, it's David Lynch right so they go in there and they find Diane Sell One's body laying face down on the bed. Yeah, it's not a good scene. Yeah, and yes and this. Apparently has been awhile because their chorus is pretty emaciated. It's kind of blue and starting to dig. Yeah, it's. It's a little bit. It's pretty nasty yeah. So, apparently, some time has passed. and. Actually they? They kind of freak out a little bit. Go back to their place. To. To the Betty's apartment. And restarts like going into the bathroom and trying to cut her hair. And Let's see so. Betty's like that. He tells her known. Don't cut your hair. Just wear this blonde wig for some rea- now. What? She's worried that whoever is looking for her is who killed Diane Selwyn. Okay, so it's so. It's more like you know the guys that might be after that money. Right! Disguise you you're gonNA. Wear this blonde wig right because those guys were at Diane someone's apartment complex, and then they find Diane so when dead so I think she's afraid. And she started. Her. If she, starting to remember the bad things were going on that you don't. You don't usually wind up one hundred thousand dollars in cash after eight night of being a level. So I think she scared and she just wants to, she wants to. She wants to put on a disguise and hide herself as much as she can. So at this point, this is where it. Kinda turns into a letter from penthouse forum. This kind of thing has never happened to me before. Actually you know what I'm talking. But I was in bed when my. In she was sleeping on the couch is she's on complete like she takes off all her clothes and Clinton the bed with me. She comes in with a towel and I tell her she shouldn't sleep on the couch anymore, so then she takes the towel off. and. We totally do. Exactly, so so read. It gets into bed. They make love. And Betty Tells Rita. She's in love with her. Okay, so at their. Go ahead. It's easy to fall in love with the mystery I think right. Yeah. I mean you know she's very like you said mysterious enigmatic, and let's face it rather attractive woman. She's very beautiful and she. Thinks she was. Laura Harring was a former Miss USA or something right something like that. Yeah, and learn hearings character. This version of Laura herrings character. Is Very honest and is not using her at all. She's very grateful for that. She's helping her. She's to have a front end. They're very sweet with each other, and so I think there's no. No apparent ulterior motive going on no. I think it's very easy to fall in love with with mystery like that. Yeah, so. So at two o'clock that night. and. Here's where we kind of. Do our little transition. Suckle your seatbelts the one eighty digression exactly. Exactly yeah. So Betty. Arena wakes up speaking Spanish. And even though it's like two o'clock in the frigate morning. She's like. Hey, we need to go to this club. You need to come some place with me. It's two in the morning. You need to come someplace with me and the Club is club Salena Zito Since you, which of courses. Espanol for silence. A. So. So redesign her blonde wig. Looks a little bit more like Betty at this point. Looks a little bit more betty, but it's funny now that you mention it. That dress Kinda reminds me. Of Isabella Rossellini stress when of her cocktail, yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah Yeah. It's not it's not blue, but it's. It's the sort of black one with with the high neck, open openshaw. Exactly. So. They go to this club. and. Real. Yes. Isn't the itchiness is really bad right now so there you go. Come back all right good. Okay, so so they go to this club and I lost I lost. I lost you I. Don't know what I don't know what happened, but it is windy we in. It's supposed to rain all this week's. Who exactly and then you know. We're getting close, but. So. As they after walking down the aisle and walking right past Laura Palmer. Like tossing, which is awesome they sit down and also. There's this performance going on stage where this MC comes out. Talking different languages about everything being an allusion. Which? which is essentially Lynch talking to the audience? Right at this point? don't get attached to anything exactly it's. Like, you know it's like it's basically like the Beatles saying nothing is real. In strawberry fields for so. Rebecca re del Rio comes out. Liftings a Spanish version of Roy orbison crying. He's one of the greatest things you've ever heard in your life ever ever. which is something that you didn't know you want it in two? You heard it. And then once you heard it. You didn't just want it. You need it. To be joyful, pray much because it's so powerful in Rebecca del Rio's. We talked about on this. You know has a three reactive range. So she kills it literally. It's one of the greatest covers the history of cover songs pretty much pretty much. It's fantastic. I never knew I wanted that, but it's not like. Orbison is some slouch when it comes to vocals either. Is a tough one to sing. Yeah, so just kills. It feels it so. She's obviously in that ballpark. And but then she s, she's seeing. She collapses in an but the audio still playing, basically revealing Oh. Hey, it's a recording. It's illusion. It's allusion you can't trust anything. He can't trust anything and Betty Rita or in the stand in the in the audience. Watching this and they start understandably crying because very powerful performance. It's IT'S I. I wouldn't be surprised if that. was a real reaction to them hearing that's on. Yeah, so so That, he reaches into purse finds a blue box. So. We have a blue key now and a blue box. So hey we got to get these two crazy objects together right. I think that would be extraordinarily bad. defined bad. Fuzzy on the adapting. Exactly yeah exactly. That sounds like a text message exchange. Like. They. Did they find the box and Diane Selwyn apartment? Well later you know what you mean when everything they disappear. I can't yeah. I can't remember no. Okay. They don't even find the box. Yeah because it shows up in the. Aunt The, aunt shows up and. It's like she hears the Thud because when the box drops. She walks in. She doesn't look like she sees the box. There's air it's like. It's like aunt. Ruth never left. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, so but yeah, so so essentially this is. They go back to. Base apartment take out the key the hatbox. that. He suddenly disappears at this point. From this point on, it may all be different exactly. Exactly. Yeah, talking about you know. We've talked about this with the return here the episode Mardi Eighteen When? Cooper in Diane how to cross that threshold? So. So very similar theme there exactly. Gird up surveying, there. The box. They put the key. In. Of course, the box seems to swallow. The bedroom drops to the floor. We talked about that now. It's dark now. It's dark. And then Diane someone's apartment we cut to that in the cowboy shows up telling you. It's time to wake up. so presumably. It's hard telling, but presumably this was a dream. Diane Sell Dream. Well that's. Because of him telling her to wake up, but the question is well. Maybe it's a dream within a dream. See. That's the thing I because. Did we switch realities and she just happens to be asleep in this new reality when we get there. was she having the linear dream of? Of Rita and or Or was it from this point on, it could all be different is is that what happened now? It's different in. This is just what we're seeing. Yeah, no! That's the thing I don't know and I. Don't because I feel like. I feel like her waking up. into reality. Is Too, facile David Lynch. Yeah like I think there's there's more it's too straightforward. Just straightforward to linear I think there's more going on here who? Yeah. Yeah, there's more going on. Than just. PRISCILA NCIA was a dream and postal NCO's, real. Even though there are so many parallels. It's almost like. You know because what we find what we find out is. Rita is now canola. And so she is the girl. And that audition went badly not well and. All that, so it's almost like. A good version of what her life could have been a not so. Easy version of the way her life could have been so it could be that again like I said you've got. Irene showing up tiny and now I! Know All bets are off so I have no idea no idea. Yeah, it's. It's almost like you have to put everything on a big spinning wheel and like okay. This is the answer for this as you spin the wheel, and whatever comes up comes up because I. Don't think there is a clear cut answer here it. It's almost kind of like you know this this. Really Complex tapestry that fold on itself. Like a pretzel. And And It's nothing clear-cut here obviously so. so, what happens at this point now that? We've shifted. We're shifting from one reality to another reality. because. We wake Diane Selwyn wakes up presumably. Right Diane Selwyn. is now played by Dami Watts, so betty is now, Dianne. Right for the and so this is where it gets a little tricky kids. So. In in this reality, Betty is era. Excuse me Diane's. Confuse. Diane is a young Canadian woman who wanted to Jessica. Contest came to Hollywood looking for that fame and fortune. and. In? She hears the sound of someone pounding on her door. So now, Dianne. Does it. Look nearly as clean cut as betty. She is looking a little CDC like she had like a really bad night. In a bar, three M or a Meth, habit or a meth, habit or something, yeah. And, looking really rough at this point basically She shovels to the door. It's seem neighbor that Betty and Rita met. Still looking like wants the rest of her stuff from Diane's apartment. It's been a long enough, Diane. Where am I plates? Exactly so she gives it up. neighbor, Keser gather upper things like it's there on the floor in the box and then leaves, but she also mentioned. Hey, those two detectives came by looking. Yeah, so again. This is where the movie criss crosses realities. Because the cops there. Presumably we thought were in a dream. are also in this reality. Right so it's like a wizard of Oz kind of thing. We're seeing people just in different roles. Right exactly yeah. Okay you were there. And you and you were there when you were there, yeah. So at that moment. Diane notices the normal the Dorky colored blue on her coffee table. Blue Keys again blue keys a different key because the other one was kind of like stick like. That the one of the box, but this one is just a regular kind of standard Dorky. In it's under coffee table She then sees that Camilla Rhodes. Who is now played by Laura Harring. Melissa George. is in the kitchen. Overjoyed and so she's like overjoyed to see her. Then realize Oh, it's a hallucination. And then, from that point, we kind of we start to get the story. That apparently Diet and Camilla met on the send again very similar story, yes. Yes so. Yeah, we find out that apparently. They Diana met on the set of a film. They both auditioned for the lead role in the Soviet nor story. but the role went to Camilla. They end up became coming lovers. And in this reality, Camilla manage to like get some small roles for Diane, but then she got kind of bored. With their relationship. Broke off right. And the director didn't like our in that kind of. So. Diane obviously didn't take this well, and it didn't make any matters easier because Camilla's like opening like. Has this open flirtation with Adam? Director on the set right in front of her. Yeah! There's a scene where like sitting in the car and. Adams trying to show the lead actor how to kiss. Camilla You know like. She her head. Just kind of falls into you know your shoulders or whatever you know. It's yeah here and you. And Diane can stay and has to watch this. Enraged about it seems likely so. So that obviously bothered her understandably, and then she gets. Camilla invites Diane to a dinner party at Adams House on Mulholland drive. And see all of this is just so. It's it's. Pretty EFT up really. It's cruel. Could. Be Upset but. Yeah, it's like yeah. We used to be lovers, and I'm more successful than you, so please come to my boyfriend's house for a party. It means a lot to me that you see me doing better than you I. Mean I think it's been cruel. Yeah, and then once once she's there after being led up this like secret pathway to the house. Kisses another woman. WHO's. Played by Melissa George the one that played the original Camilla. Yeah and then she announces her engagement to Adam in front of Adam's mother who cocoa? COCOA AND COCOA STILL? Is Very caring she's. You know when when they're doing that weird thing where they can't even get out the fact that getting married, they're just giggling. and. Cocos Holding Diane's cocoa knows that like my son is kind of Shit yeah, basically. But. But Essentially Camilla in atom. Has Zero ass as far as Diane's concern at this point for sure. Yeah, they're just they're just. They're just being nasty. You know they're just kind of amused by the whole thing by dance suffering about the. Yep. So Diane who's understand pissed at this point. Goes to winky's. And hires a hitman named Joe eats up with Joe. Joe That we had seen earlier in the film. We haven't talked about Joe but. Is was really bad at being hitman. Yeah his his gun just goes off. Yes basically this comedy of errors that we see, but apparently she hired him to kill Camilla. Yes, and this actor has a history of being a bad henchman. He's the big Lebowski. He's one of the rug pictures. Big? Hey isn't this guy supposed to be a millionaire? Is that actor yeah? So so while she's there in the booth at winky's, and this is the same booth that we had seen. Dan In. The other guy I forget his name. Herb Earlier in the Dannon talking about this dream and see that's another thing like. What's the because Dan starts us on the dream part of it, so yeah, this is weird. This dream even start. Things get really circular at this point. Obviously yeah. So and it makes to make matters worse. She served by a waitress named Betty. Right. It's the same actress playing the waitress, but instead of having the name Diane. She has an embedding exactly so they basically swapped identities at this rate, right, yeah, and So. Let's see in the Joe Tells Diane that he can. Once he completes the job. You leave a blue key in her apartment. Next is so that's is apparently the same key that she finds in her coffee table right so apparently the job was done Camilla was killed. Right it's or so we think. So. Diane, you know. Starts to become wracked with guilt over this. She starts kind of like imagining. Camilla desert. There's a very unexpected masturbation scene. That takes. And it's because she she loves her, but she hates her for being right. As cruel as she is, she's she. You know she. She hates it. She's so cruel, but she can't help but love her, so it's like she. She's trying desperately to be with her even though she's not really being with her at this rate. Yeah, exactly so she's a imagining herself. She's got champagne fantasizing. Yeah, she's got that sort of. Love One can kind of a thing going on exactly so. While so. This she starts getting being the guilt I. Think kind of our Zor. She knows that the police are kind of closing in. So. She ends up going in committing suicide. In the head, and then collapsing dead on the bed. Just lays down. The corpse that Betty and Rita found in the, but in reality number one, and she starts going crazy, and that's when she sees the little tiny people, the little tiny Irena everybody got that. Every getting this far CH- just checking. Yeah, so if you're lost, that's understandable, but welcome. Welcome back. Welcome to the club right? Welcome to the party how. Committed the coast. WE'LL WATCH MAHINDRA WE'LL. Have Left. Exactly so So. That's three topics right there that we went through. And and we still have like even more to talk about. So the question is so the question is. Do we want to like? Cut It here and follow this up in part to. Or, do we want to keep going? Well the movies almost over, so let's finish the and we'll talk. Okay worry. We'll try and hurry this. We'll talk a special features next time all right so So probably the next thing we should talk about at this point is adamant. The cowboy. Yeah. Having the Cowboy Cowie, so we've always seen what Adams kind of up to In the way we're kind of introduced him is like He. He has this meeting downtown. Back in reality number one. Ray with his. Like a couple of producers, and then the the Castellini brothers played by Angelo, bet debt battle, the mentally and Dan Daya. Right and. The brothers Kinda show Catcher the hitch of the actress named Camilla Rhodes. WHO's played? This is the girl. Yeah, they basically say this is who you're going to cast for your film and was like no, no I don't think he's. F You and then they. Freeze his assets, and you know just basically make his life very difficult. Yeah, this is after he gets pissed and goes out and smashes up their limo. Before driving off in his. Yeah right exactly so. They're so sort of Johnny Fontaine deal. That's happened and that's. And that's what he goes home and finds Lorraine with gene. Pool Guy. Gene Pool Guy. We talked about that. And then like some goons show set by the casting the anti show up, beat up. His wife and Jean. The Pride of I love her jumping on the guy get of here. Yeah it really. Is kind of like picks her up because he's so huge and she's so. This guy is like as tall as why. He's not short, so he's just kind of like like it's like he's one of his kids off of his shoulders. going. Get off me and we're not punches her her off. That's right. Because this kind of like backwards punch. Face And, they're just like matter of fact. Just throws her the wall in the floor. She she doesn't have enough of a healthy sense of what's actually the right thing to do. Well to be fair. She kinda had upcoming probably but in. She's well. She's a terrible person, so she can't figure out. Like. Don't jump on a mobster. Maybe especially higher. Higher Dunes higher good yeah. Do I, tell you how to do your job. Scenic, that's how you do Simpson's reference. There you go. That's how it works. That's that's how it's done my friend. All right. So adamant lies low in this like CD. Low Rent Motel. And we're still in the first reality with right, yeah. So you we find it and finds out that basically he's broke. And his he calls his assistant. and. She tells him that. Who Secretly in love with him. Yeah, exactly so basically like you can come over and stay at my place. My place and an atom is like that's really not a good idea. Well, what I think is interesting about. Staying at that really seat you motel. Right, he's been there. He's been there before. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah, because he knows guy the guy. Yeah know his his his wife cheating leading with Billy Ray. Cyrus is not the first infidelity that has happened in this marriage. No I'm sure he's like he knows this place pretty well. It seems like yeah, so any feels must have felt safe to go there, so yeah, he. He's been there before he feels at home. He knows he can lay low yeah. So, Adams Assistance Cynthia tells him okay. This guy named the cowboy wants you to meet with him at a corral at the top of Beechwood Canyon. so Adam is is like okay. The cowboy, what's up this a corral? And tells me. Yeah, just just be there. I'll make sure the meeting happens if you. Go, so he goes. There meets with the cowboy. And the cowboy is very like Mrs tremont kind of character. Very epigrammatic. Cryptic and very. Here's what you need to do. And once he talks to the cowboy. He does what he's supposed to do. And then everything's kind of okay with him. He cast the right girl in the story. And, because from they tell you threatens them says like. If you're told in, you know you're only see me once, but if you don't do what you're told, you'll see me twice two more times. To more times. Yes, yeah, so which obviously a very veiled threat. You were going to be visited by three gifts. Because a little little gets a little Dickensian. They're a little bit. Just a bit. So so basically. We find out that you know later in the film. when when Betty shows up. That's when he tells like he does what he's told. He's like I. Guess I guess I want my stuff and my money back so okay. The girl, this is the girl in, so he gives Camilla the part. and. and. That's you know that's basically what we find out a part. You know we don't see any more from Adam. Until about avenue field with like we talked about his story is the same. In both realities. The only thing that's different. Is the Camilla. Yes. So so apparently, he's consistent. So that's again why I'm like okay, which one's real yeah, and is is any of it. Even real is all of it still just Dan's dream well in the second reality kind of fills in some gaps of information about the first reality. Yeah, as far as Annan's concern, right in. So! So There's that we need to talk about the bomb behind winky's. We gotta talk about the behind Leakey's. Yes, the behind Wiki is terrifying if you'd asked me. As we started out with Dan because big big like. It's a it's a real real. Jump scare yeah, and So Dan. Is, in Winky's, and he's talking to her as I had a dream and you were in it and we were in this booth. We were in this diner and this happens, and then we go up and he's like it will show me what happens in the dream. So you see them walking to behind a dumpster and then this? Filthy looking bump comes out. This monster kind of looking character is pretty superhuman character, sub-human, looking character, and and it freaks out Dan so bad that he has a heart attack. And then. When everything is done at the end of this movie when we think Camilla's may be dead and Diane Shot Herself. We see it's nighttime this time. Yes, so we go back around to the dumpster. winky's and we see a very similar looking character, yeah! So in in at this point. Creature for lack of a better word. because. It doesn't really look human. Funding a blue box. That's the blue box. So essentially like you know if you're wondering where that would happen at the box, apparently, the pump gets it and so is it the bums dream? or Maybe. This is the third reality. Where Betty disappeared and began. Does she. Maybe Betty becomes the bomb. I don't know that's that's the that's the thing about. This is the key. Yeah, and not literally that is the key to this whole story the box. Yeah, is it? Is it Dan? Is Betty the bum? What you don't know? There's so many different elements you see like maybe like red herrings. Possibly? The first time I saw this movie I saw that bump handling. That box I just thought to myself. I have such sights to show you. What the Hell is going on. With this box and get no, that's that's a rule. Apparently, the bum is a center bite, but the bone I think is a Senate bite. I and I think the bum is a prototype for a woodsmen from the return from twin peaks their return, just with the Y-, just the dirty. Filthy face yeah, all of it is is like that so I just this. That's a great great observation. Because Yeah I. Mean I can totally see Lynch being fired or just. Saying. That's the kind of character. I want yeah right, but just let this be a lesson to you kids if we learned anything from the movies yeah. Mysterious boxes don't touch them yeah. Don't touch him well. There's two things we learn. Don't go behind back in behind a restaurant in the alleyway behind the restaurant. You know what's what's behind the dumpster behind diner, the grease trap. Yeah, okay, it stinks back there. You don't want to go well especially as I grew up in a restaurant. Okay, a family restaurant. But. especially if you're having a dream. that. There's something horrible back there. There's GONNA BE! There's GonNa be so. The grease dumpster. It's GonNa. Be raccoons something bad? Don't go exactly so you know like if you have a dream about it in your frayed about it. Don't go looking for it. Just leave it alone. You know move on with. A mysterious box. That's not yours. Yeah, don't touch. It is going to change your if you're gonNA. Change a reality for the worst or at the Senate bite right. Okay, and nobody wants that. Yeah, no, it's not a good look. No so. So, yeah, you either end up as Diane Selwyn or your. Bone behind the dumpster or Or something or your Doug Bradley! Doug Bradley exactly. With puzzle boxes, yeah, exactly. Yeah, no stay the hell away. But. It's got pins on your head. Go Fix. Or Your Catherine Martell and your brother is Danaher real he. Tried to figure out if it's your birthday or ECK, hearts, birthday, or whatever and you and you know what it is. It's a key to a bomb all right. Stay away from mystery boxes pretty much. Yeah, yeah, gives you nothing but trouble so nope. Important safety tip thinks in. Art That's bad. We should try from. Talk a little bit about Joe the Hitman. Because Joe, the Hitman has a very funny sequence in the first reality. Yeah shoots. Think is going to be his partner. And then accidentally shoots the woman the next office. Yeah, 'cause! He's talking with this guy in any supposed to like. We find out that he was looking for this black address book. so he shoots that guy. But because of his competence he has to like. He shoots. Through the wall into the next in the office next door or whatever it hits this like. Heavy set lady. She's it's. It's one of those like rent an office type. Expect like Sam Spade to have an office in this building and she's just. Like something bit me. Something bit me bad. And he could have just left it at that, but he wants up shooting her winds up shooting the janitor shooting the vacuum clean right right because it keeps making noise so like and you know, and as he shoots the vacuum cleaner that sets off the fire alarm Oh my God. It's so it's like something. If essentially like right now. The naked gun so bad he's he's very much. The lebowski henchman this. You just can't do anything right so that's part and part of me wonders. Did He Kill Camilla? He's not good at his job. So I don't know. Will. Maybe in the second reality, he's better at his job that he was the first one. And again in. Reality than. I guess I guess Diane has to know him some way. Right to hook up with him to hire him to kill Camilla. But. It's like I wonder I mean that just seems like an interesting side note for a dream for her to be dreaming about Joe Right. So. I, don't. Just. It's all just very very strange. It is, it is and. And we have another set of cops who were never going to solve the crime. Because yeah, completely. We have no idea what happened to. To To McKnight and his partner. That terminate terminent Backley. It's okay. We're just call Frank Franken MAC. But You know. There's no resolution to that storyline at all. And it's like even if they weren't looking well. Presumably you know the the they've zeroed in on the Real Diane. Right, but yeah, she kills herself and so they. Don't really. Yeah exactly so now have another corpse in their hands and more mystery I guess. So so. I know is confusing to hear this breakdown. Confused as we went through it, but. I. Hope I hope we at least addressed things we needed to address. And he knew this was going to be dill difficult, but Hopefully we helped a little I don't know what do you think? Well I think we certainly give people something to think about when they're watching this, yeah! Maybe, yeah, maybe we did, but hopefully we had some theories. We had some Trivia I. Think we did OK okay all right so. There was a deleted scene, but I think we can save that for when we talk about the special features I would agree. That's a special feature all right, so Do you ever rating for this movie? Yeah I do I love. This movie Yes. I think it's great, and I'm going to give this. Nine out of ten Hollywood sign font. That? Yes, if you notice the credits of this movie, you're done in the Hollywood sign fund. So that was good. This is I. I was talking about this with Chris, when I was watching it and I think it might be my third favorite David Lynch movie after Blue Velvet Inland Empire interesting yeah. Yeah I put the second. After Blue Velvet. It's number one. Yeah. Okay, so we're at least. Probably next wild at heart loses a few points because I have to watch hillbillies. Fan of that either. I Love I love wild at heart. They are some some shit. That's characters. But but yeah, it might be might be too for me. We'll. I also giving us nine out of ten. Give it nine out of ten jump. Scare bums behind winky's. That's a good one. Yeah, yeah. Interesting, though the the bummer supposed be male, but as played by a female actress. Right so the bone I feel. I feel like the BUM is sort of gender fluid. We'll see that's why I kind of wondered. If the bum is actually what happens to Diane. Who knows is. Or is that? You don't know you just yeah. Yeah, we'll see but anyway. Now normally I was mentioned that. Hey, we've actually have some mail. Hey Rock on. Yeah, we got two letters. Believe it or not awesome. But the question is. We're kind of running really long here. So shall we say those for next time? Yeah, let's see if this next time because I. don't want people who were letters to feel like. We're rushing through their letters right so I wanNA give apologies to Matthew Curtis. who was kind enough to write in? Got Your email got the g mail. And also a certain DJ Nick. Who wrote in a review of his review of Mahala drive? Teaching that sounds familiar. I'm so right. We want to give Dj Nixon time. Reside have heard yet heard something about it so. so we don't have to rush through those when we say this 'cause we're gonNA. 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Just kind of my mom does not listen to this podcast. She's big because she's like. I cannot get a frame of reference. I have no idea what the hell you're. So, but she she does like a gold standard for that reason because she can get it yet. Get a grip on things. What about you Charles where you think your mom and my wife Lori are pretty much in the same boat. My mom in your mind. Your wife should get together and go bowling pretty pretty much. because. It was pretty interesting while I'm. Doing this Mahal and Dr Rewatch. Laurie Laurie watched it along with me. She did other things she looked up and yeah, I would tend to have a catcher looking at things. You know every so often. As, I was going through the movie. The movie was over. She didn't say a single word about it. Like nothing and I and I said. Should I even bother asking you what you thought of this movie and she said nothing. So so. So. I left it right. There didn't even follow up on that I. Guess. 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WAS Like she is, we'll know I'm pregnant with the revelation that Dakota Johnson is not pregnant, but she is in fact by well is what was confusing? It was like an old interview came out in which she doesn't directly say I'm by but readers, fans and people who love her. We're like Oh. This is where she says she's by. She says I've been at a phase in my life. Ram Fascinated by young women, coming to terms of their sexuality I guess by proxy I have been experiencing that in my own life, and it's very interesting to me then after that she said, can we make things really juicy? Can we say that I'm taking the time to explore my bisexuality? Also, That second one is pretty explicit. The second one is it sounds explicit, but also maybe it's a joke. It's unclear it's so if you read the full interview. If you read the context, which is not in the viral tweets, she's talking about a break up at first you to break with Matthew hit. Who is a model? And it says lead singer for the band the owners and she says I'm a little heartbroken all the time. Time, even when I'm in a happy relationship, I just don't do casual very well. My feelings, even the good ones get so intense that they hurt. Then it says for the President Johnson is on her own enough said. Can we make things really juicy? That's her quote. Can we say that I'm taking this time to explore my bisexuality or that I've given myself to the Lord following the release of sexually explicit trifecta films so she. She sort of saying that she isn't bisexual there. What if we just change the narrative? What if we just make this juicier again like? It's unclear because she's like kind of Matori's Leah troll and we take a minute we'll kind of where's that quote for? The Daily Mail is not is not willing to call her bisexual, but people on twitter are like Bisexual Queen. We stand meanwhile, not pregnant you knock me. I thought she was. was. She's not pregnant. I saw this one tweet that was like we should have known. She was queer because no straight person could do this and it was the screen shot of her. Saying that's not true. Ellen and the other one was her saying like, don't you let people talk Jimmy and I was like that has nothing to do with sexuality that has to do with the fact that Dakota Johnson Rich. She's rich and she. Sure. About sexuality, it's more about privilege and money. You. Bitch. In baton. You can, you can be straight. You can be gay. You can be queer. You can be whatever and still be a huge ass bitch. That's inspiring to me. I saw her name trending. Is She pregnant? Could it be oh now? She's just may be by because someone. Twitter found an interview where she talked about this. It is so funny. HOW LITTLE ALL CARE POST! Her actually being pregnant, but the revelation of her being pregnant if she gets, pregnant will be so funny for me, but I don't even care about well. Yes, we! We keep saying that she's not pregnant, but we don't do. The truth is that she's been pregnant for more or less two years. kind of crazy. How long she's been pregnant I. Mean People Keep Saying Katy, Perry? She's still pregnant I'm like look to Johnson. She's been pregnant for four years now. You're listening to WHO's there are weekly call in show where we take your questions, comments and concerns at six, one nine, who them We have a lot of comments this week. I think I think I think. We have never received more calls about a single subject. Then we received as a as a response as He did about Memphis being a city. In Ancient Egypt a lot of you were paying attention during geography or whatever history. I don't know when you learn this. Apparently Bobby and I were not and also would so funny about me is this has nothing to do with celebrities and yet here we are again. We were out here doing memphis and they were saying. You know Memphis them, so let me just play one of them. There were so many some of them were funny. Some of them were just like high ready. We don't. We don't who cities I just have never been there. You know here's one of them. Hi, who claim medium time medium time, I just listened to Tuesday's episode, and I got really excited because I'm reading from Austin to Memphis on Saturday but also sure we'll have like eight Tala. Just call in about this, but Memphis is named after the ancient capital of the first. Egyptian. Sharon civilizations like cradle of difference of litigation, whatever and Giza whereas the term are is right outside of that, so that's why they were the pharaohs. That's why there's a pyramid. That's not why there's best profile in the pyramid, but you know what do you do? price matter. A trend commonality among all these calls was that a lot of people said I'm sure you're gonNA. Get a lot of egyptologists calling about this, but if there was like a small percentage of Egyptologists in our fandom, I would be really appreciative. There might be. I'm obsessed with the mummy that goes. You know I love that guy. Clip. Wasn't the minimum on that fake though. No. No. We're real. No! No it was bobby. It's real and people kept changing the sound, but the sound is real I saw the original. For the. Original. No, so you guys autumn of you remember this, but a few months ago this old, but it's coming back because we love this mummy. They got a mummy and they like took a three. That's the north and that's it that's. Viral going yesterday or this week. That was like. It allowed them to produce a single sound. It wasn't that's it? That's the railway. And Wait! They got this mummy and they took like a three d. this is genius. They did a three D. mold of the inside of his throat to say like what voice sounds like. He's like vocal chords. Any sounds like that he sounds like. A? It allowed them to produce a single sound and. ME, when I walk inside the best pro shops and the pyramid. Did, you see the one where somebody made it yeah. Britney spears. Okay I. Love the did it again, yeah! It allowed them to produce a single sound. Oh. Okay, owning your more time. The mummy is a Ho-. Excuse me. I think the mummies who is what I'm saying. Fine. Okay the Mummies Oh. These call. Let's just do this one. I like this one because it combines both whereas it. He'll. High hope doing well. Hot Cast and then I had to Realize I was out of service, and now I'm calling again days later When you're talking about jams and Molin, jams us, really disgusting as a pastry, chef I can tell you that sugar preserves very well, so it was properly stored a very long time for mold to start working. That's really disgusting side note Lindsey with your orange jams nation, I would say is the best sticking and most fruits have natural, and then however you can use Joseph wants you. It's going to be a different texture as you probably discovery, but that is something you can do also. Could you know oranges and citrus? Fruits tend to have high levels of natural in their skins, so you could have just throw in the skin in there with the pope in the meat and everything, and then removed it later. People like Marmalade Javid. What is called? Second Point is that Memphis the reason that security pyramid in Memphis is probably because Memphis wasn't ancient capital in Egypt I. Don't know how I don't have to okay. Crunch Crunch Duncan makes it easy. Lindsay may jelly wobble wobble. How many of these are there? There are so many and I'm trying to pick which wants to play like there was someone who called in and said I'm from the hometown Newcastle. Pennsylvania of the Jello Salad which I thought was interesting too nice and do that one. Yet? That was fine so many in here that state. Lindsey Jello be I love you emit Jello. That one's great. You could just play all of Magilla. Maybe, made Jello. Deli wobble wobble. Hey, Lindsey, bobby longtime meeting time I have to the pot. And call in to say that what Wednesay made was neither Jello nor a jam. When? You made an affect you n Babylon by I did hi Bobby and Lindsay I'm calling in reference to the Jello Salad discussion I just thought I would shed more light on this especially, because bobby repeatedly refers to Jello Salad is a southern thing which I'm sure it is popular in the but I have a particular enter. Who In college one time my? My friend and I were discussing at a party with many other friends, like all of the types of food that we like when you go through grandparents house that you know you don't get anywhere else because people don't make testable, etc, etc. And he and I were discussing Jealous Dallas No, she and I both originate from this really really like. A roll like middle of nowhere type area Pennsylvania Newcastle and we were talking. None of our friends knew about all these different sellers selling things like Rosa Marina, which is within shallow in Pasta in various together work. which is strawberries Ngelo interschool together and all these different versions. My mom also lum's all of these was such symbols and NFL. But I never really got into that. Everyone with us thought we were so disgusting and didn't understand why. We have thought these jealous odds versus delicious, and so we want to look it up. You know to explain and provide some visual aid to people, and we realized that the gentlest Howard was literally invented a new castle. Where we both originate from the middle of. Nowhere area of the country so now I think he's proud that my family are ex and we. We come from a long line of Jealous Allen so few enjoyed that and who wouldn't be investigates further all of the amazing things, convictions fellow because it's truly a nightmare There were multiple calls where someone says. My family is from Texas or my family is from the south, and they make that orange, salad variant of that or the exact same thing, and at least two people called and said we hate it, but we still make it for my dad because my dad. was like that's so weird. That's exactly the same then. They were people calling in about a Ajello Salad that I've been actually very intrigued by lately. Watergate Salad, which is a variant wide of the. Watergate Salad pissed like fake pistachios. Some people call Al Stash Delight I'm looking at the big media. Shut the gates salad colloquially as Green Goop Green, goddess salad or green stuff. And it's pistachio pudding canned pineapple whipped topping cool, whip, crushed pecans and marshmallows so it. Looks like the Seventies. It's yeah, it's great. Will that reminded me that one of my favorite things in the world in terms of sweets is fake pistachio flavoring, I love fake Pistachio I. Love My kick. I really didn't make before. The end of quarantine is Watergate cake, so no one knows why it's called. Watergate though. Did you know that that's a yeah there is? There is a reason no, but the the wikipedia says it's obscure like. A recently call Watergate cake is because the frosting covers up all the stuff in it. No, no, no, no, no, now now now. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Anna made that cake for her birthday recently ensured a photo of it and looked amazing, and I have to have that okay well. You gotTA. Have that I made up for the JAM by. By making really good cookies the other day just want to say like I canceled out that terrible. Jelly jello jam situation, pink cookies and good those are amazing and very easy to make so I felt better about this. This jam Jello aspects failure that I shared with the podcast, although maybe I shouldn't considering the response, although it did inspire us to learn about so many disgusting Salads. long-term time. I caused the show to say that the man who owns but re Pasta is. Very Anti. Homosexual and said he would never allow. Same Sex couple in his advertising because he does not support that as a family, does not believe that that is a real family, so that is why I mean and bobby and many others of US pay the extra. Fifty cents for. You know other pasta. Grocery store It doesn't seem to be doing damage. Since Bernie PAS is the one that covers most of my grocery store. But you know we don't. We can conform bill Thorne ended up resided by buttery pasta. Thank you for confirming that highlights the medium timers. Caller you talking about. On this show and I just wanted to let you know that. Is. Written about her when they because they dated from Twenty, twelve to twenty, fourteen and I just thought this look important information. Okay good for Bella Thorne. I. Wow, three iconic Ed sheeran songs Nina. Photograph and friends, none of which I can we photograph. Maybe I know I don't really know were really by Ed sheeran about Nina. Edge Sharon must have dated her before. I! Started paying attention to Ed Sheeran. The first measuring girlfriend I remember is when he had the fling with. What's her face? What's her face? Nellie Goulding Ellie Goulding. Elegant my to say. Whenever, you mentioned. Like Ellie. Ellie. Ellie Goulding I don't like what Ellie Goulding has revealed herself to be and also. Did you hear the new Ellie Goulding Song. It is dry I never. Really I never hear the new. Songs I saw that she released a new song I was like I'll give it a were I'll give it a whirl. What does that Kevin mcallister I'll give it a world so I gave it a world and I was like. Get me off of this world. Ellie Goulding was literally like an indie artist. I just can't. I can't believe that. We've come this far like she used to be interesting. Yeah get frustrated with Ellie Goulding, but yet Nina Nesbitt Scottish so it makes sense that she and Ed Sheeran, dabbled What's and she's also make sense. Because he's from England or whatever? They're from the. Sewn. Lies that that's not that crazy English and she's Scottish I dunno like. It makes it's like well. He is from Pennsylvania and she's from Connecticut, so it makes sense that they got together. Okay! Yeah, it does. I don't know they've maybe they played a lot of the same festivals or something. So it makes sense remember when we called Ed Sheeran. Irish and that was a big. That was a big. No, no, he's only. Just because. He's a white guy who likes the color green, and there's readiness head. The Irish flag is his whole thing, and he's not Irish I stand by my thing. Nesbitt met musician and Sharon before Radio Gig. He was scheduled to perform in Edinburgh so Scotland. Yeah. He was just there hanging out, and they met, and they dated, and he wrote three songs about her, and then he about a house and installed an illegal pool. That's all I know about him. The most Ed Sheeran lyric is in the song Nina because it's like Koi references to the fact that may be sex could have possibly happened at this instance where it's under the covers where we used to lay is just like such a Ed Sheeran lyric and re stacks is what the speakers played Oh my God. I met you when I was just a teen, but you were one as well and I could play guitar just like ringing a bell. Sometimes I wonder in any other summer. Could you been my part time lover to me listening to Stevie wonder. Oh. We I'm sorry. Carleen says where I met you when you were teen, but I was one, too. It's like Oh, I was a teen to your backup. was both teams okay porous? I'm not gonNA maybe. I'll play it. Maybe I won't, but maybe you'll play it. Maybe why is the wear sunscreen in my head? It's been looking in my head. Just. Yeah, keep on doing that and it's very weird. Maybe, you'll Mary. Maybe you won't. Maybe, you'll have children. Maybe you won't. Okay this this chorus meters read this Oh. Nina you should go. Nina cause I ain't never coming home Nina. Oh, won't you leave me now and I've been living on the road Nina, but then again you should know Nina. 'cause, that's you and me both Anina. Oh, you leave me now. Okay, so you're saying these aren't number. One hits talks about watching blue planet with Nina. Okay Okay Okay Okay I just thought about. As. Call I WANNA. Say with African giant in West Africa Nigerian. Jay and a long time ago. Niger likes name. Was that the giant? Which is why I forgot from from anyway, isn't he? Did the whole thing? He absolutely roasted on like fast for US better and in. stationary funny, but that album is so good and I, implore you. Into it I actually say burner boy is. Pretty big, in America I try Christ. International goes at least he's big in rice like he is well known and Black America. African Americans are going to listen to him. He's going to ask. Is what I'm trying to say so I. Think like not necessarily. White America, but I think bridge. Huge and that way. Call. This is. True. Out everyone that I wanted to play this call after the ED sheeran call because it's a caller, saying you should really listen to the burner boy album. He's a black them white, who and why not give people an album to listen to? Since we spent so much time giving them an album, not to listen to which was. Even know. Again. You don't even know the name of the album. The songs talking about we're on X X. Questions questions. If you're out here looking for ways to find. In here, if you're in here, looking for ways to find calm, and peace and stress may be to relieve some soreness or pain. Maybe you WanNa, sleep easier. Who says that taking care of yourself needs to be hard. What's great about CBD? 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No, you wrote them not to be good. She's like no, they're fucking amazing. All my songs are really Diane. You're a troll and now. She's out here. Responding to the iconic video of Mariah Carey, pushing her out of the way which we all know is Diane Warren. And she saying no, it's not me. It's not me. It's not me, and then she's also responding to all these photos where people are saying like Goulaine Lane. The non me, that's not me. or She's saying that is me in the case of people accusing her of being Glenn Maxwell. They really don't look like they just both have like I would call the Kris. Jenner haircut meaning short, dark hair. Well, they look alike in. They look alike in blurry twitter video. You know in in twitter video that has been deliberately down downgraded to like. You know one eighty p. To Eighty P like you can be, you could. If you didn't know WHO Diane Warren was. If you never ever heard or seen Diane Warren, you would look at that and be like Oh. Someone told me that gallon. d'alene looks like the gallon I saw like with. We'll also other celebrity. There is like a there's like an eighty percent. Chance that you've never seen a picture of Diane Warren like. What Diane. Warren looks like that's not likely I. Follow her all central. Yeah but. You are a specialized case and I'm sure. A lot of our listeners are specialized cases, but that's but I will say that. Sort of intense doctor being like this one specialize case as I'm being a into some creepy hospital this one. He's a specialized case. Well, this is like in my game that I play my switch where I own a hospital and they keep I keep people keep having diseases, and they're like lightheadedness, and it's like their head is open. You have to like comet. This is like the Diane Warren specialized case and I need to build. Build a special room in which I research a machine to cure you of your specialized case, but specifically. Diane has clowns on herself over this video in the past, so like to anyone saying she doesn't even realize it. That's video of her. She knows she's bucking with you. Because when this video I went viral, she responded to it by saying only room for one diva. Ha, ha tongue out tongue out thumbs up music music heart. Because they've worked together many many times. You have to assume that video. Is Mariah joking around with her like Beowulf? Diane will be which she other. Many many many many. Mariah picks her up and puts her aside. It's like a IT'S A. Stress like. And shove out of the way Diane. Selwyn very clearly a pain in the ASS. Being friends with Diane must be a nightmare. A weird thing that I noticed throughout the twenty twenty Oscar season is that. None other than Renee Zellweger became what looked like really good friends with Diane through the process and I was like that makes so much sense to people that are probably really hard to sort of figure out and get along with. And I I'm glad that they found each other, because they would always be at events together like the two of them who could probably talk to anyone in the room because they have a relationship with anyone? But they chose each other I was like wow, that's like of beautiful. These two weirdos found each other I. mean you know Diane? Warren loves being an insider. She's like she loves what she does. She loves like she loves hobnobbing with with the Mariah Carey's of the world. Who are her close friends? And she is not Geeze Lane Maxwell. She's not so do not. Mistake her for that also it's pronounced lane right. I don't care how it's. fucking do not give a shit how her name is pronounced. I don't call an an tell us about Gillan I could give a fuck with that woman's name is pronounced. Sorry. Sorry, Sorry Diane Warren however. WHO WERE THEM DIE? Board is I, think them. Even, though nobody. Think our song. Yeah I think she's also. She's definitely a who who we behavior at the mercury video alone is enough to make you a WHO forever. I mean Don Woman Mariah. Carey picks up the moves out of the way on the red carpet. Both I guess she's a WHO, because people keep mistaking her for every single woman with short dark hair. So who am I to say to them? I think that speaks for itself. I mean right I mean. Everyone's like this woman so well. Who is this woman? She's Oh. Yeah, we talked about her on the in the lead up to these Oscars because she almost had her win got I'm looking at this chart again? Nominated nominated, nominated nominated, nominated, nominated, nominated, nominated nominated nominated nominated. Can you name even though it's very recent history? I will end this conversation. We spent probably. I don't think you're able to end this conversation. Yeah, can you name either the movie? Or the song for which she was nominated for an Oscar this year. Yes. Yes. Name one of them. It was the Chrissy mets movie. What was the movie called? That's the question, or what was a song called the fact that I remember that. It was a Chrissy mets movie. Then that should be enough. Not Be enough should be enough. It's not enough. He was called like on my own. Standing strong free standing breakfast standing standing alone standing strong, stand the opposite of standing alone. What's the opposite together standing together? With ending with friends with you. I'm standing with friends and family from fantasy, mentioned emily and loved ones. Yeah Great. She did not win honestly if she would have won for that. It would have been a fucking travesty like that is that is the that is the what's version of an actress waiting for movie that sucks, but they give it to her career like Glenn Close in the wife I'm sorry, which didn't win I know I'm just saying if she. I can't think of an example, but you get what I'm saying like Sandra Bullock winning for blindside because she'd never won before. Oh sure. Right and they were like this movie sucks, and this is sort of an embarrassing performance, but why not? Yet happened a lot for. It's like every third wins. So right so I'm glad Dianne Warrenton win for Chrissy. Mets is standing with friends and family. Did we talk about this tweet? That Diane Warren Instagram though that was a meam of you know. Gillan with Donald Trump Goulaine with Elon musk. Elaine with Naomi. Campbell and then there's Diane Warren, with Lady Gaga and says the way she knew everybody. And then Diane wrote a little mistaken identity going on here yikes Smiley Face I. Have to say I get that this is funny. It is funny, but I wish I wasn't leaning into the Lane Maxwell. Because she likes. Do Not Post pictures of this woman on your instagram. I'm your instagram like maybe just like. Don't maybe just don't. Next call. Hi, there who weekly longtime long time I you probably already getting lots of messages about this, but Lucy lose lesbian arch. Lose not only a painter, but she's making lesbian arch. We haven't heard about this. As, actually homophobic, so that's all talk about it. These people. It's so beautiful. Really stunning are where. Crunch crunch by was on another voice going really stunning. Lucie Lewis, Lesbian Erotica this was written about a while ago I also missed it completely. I just feel bad about it. Lucy Liu them though so maybe I was just like not paying attention, but Lucy Liu actor them lesbian artists, who she's an artist. She's a WHO artist I don't know I don't know she was an artist. I didn't either and Lucy Liu. From, what I know does not identify as a lesbian, not that you need to lesbian to to do or a lesbian erotica of course, right and draw and paint lesbian erotica paint straight erotica all the time. That's my hobby I bet you. Do you actually did get into a real painting phase which I have evidence of in my apartment where I used to have evidence. No, I do evidence of it. My apartment's over your over your kitchen sink paint, but there's another one that I don't think i. have any more that you painted. When you did like you did a paint by number, but then you improvised, and you'd painted like women from like Whoopi Goldberg from Ghost. Did different characters over the? That was my brief thing where my thing was going to be doing paint by numbers numbers, but then covering like in the middle of the paint by numbers, doing like a strange ironic like pop culture icon in the middle, so I have a paint actually framed on my living. That's a paint by numbers of just like a weird Italian Bay. Water and then there's like I don't know a sort of what Tara thing, but then in the water I put Jack Rose on like floating on the door frames so clever. You're so clever. I'm very clever as the thing I mean. These are going to be worth so much money when they're in the goodwill's of our future. Oh what? Part so lucy. Maybe that's how Lucy, Liu guts, or maybe she was doing paint by numbers and said Oh. Maybe I'll add some lesbian erotica to this scene now. Hers are amazing, not offense to yours. Yours are good, too, but hers are really good. She's got some. She's got a lot of perspective on these paintings She started painting in high school. And now she paints under her pseudonym, which is her original Chinese name. Ewing and they. She keeps things separate, but people know it's Lucy Liu. People know yeah, and she's very open about it now, but I think when she started being open about it, it was like. Losing loops lesbian art, and then we kind of forgot about it I didn't really she went to Uber She. Went to high school where Stuyvesant High School Artsy Fartsy High School. Stay in in new. York for New, York people. You'll know Sti-, so that's where she started painting. This art really is beautiful and keep looking at it the funniest thing that I've seen so far about this art as whenever you search. If you want to see this art, do yourself a favor. Google Lucy Liu lesbian art. You'll find it very easily. These are some headlines. Headlines You'll encounter so lucy. Liu Creates Lesbian art another one. Did you know Lucy? Liu Creates beautiful erratic paintings. Another one Lucy Liu paints erotic lesbian art, and it's literally everything. Another one Lucy Liu is low key, a world, renown artists, and not only for her. Roddick Lesbian Art. Lucy Liu Paints Erotic Art Lucy Liu Paints erotic lesbian portrait's dot and we love it. She did it and she did some interviews of. He spoke about it on late night show. If you go to Lucy Liu dot net slash gallery slash studio. There are photos of her studio. She also does like mixed media. She does paintings, but she also does like objects and stuff like that. I mean she's just like out here. Being an artist, you know a contemporary artist when you search celebrities who are also painters, you get lucy, Liu top of the list. Who can you name who number two is? Can, you think already also secretly paints. Secretly are if it secretly I don't know about it's not secretly, but it's like sort of like the fun fact that true heads no fun fact that true heads no a celebrity who is also a painter. Anthony Hopkins Oh! I didn't know that I would have never known that actually. Both of these, both of these celebrities, both of these actors are a lot of this. Is Do paint a lot of celebrities do art, but not a lot of it is good I think that's the dividing line, and maybe you'd buy celebrities painting if because it's just the celebrity painted it, which is a lot of what art is like the person who made it, but Lucy lose are very good and if you didn't know that Lucy, Liu painted. You might also want to buy it. which is maybe then what's so special about her? Work is my take on it, you know. When you type in on Google, actors who also space. Yeah actress, who also paint is number five on the list. Can you name one three and four? Saying got at. That's number one. Dance. Number six. That's after paint job. That's after paint. Actors who also cook. Not, even in this, you know, I guess who fucking black or Sukuk actors who also like murder or something like. Google. actress who also murder actors who also play Play sport now. No, that's that's up there either direct number two. Oh, who cares okay the react? What? You want guess actors who also. Do think of a big of a Bruce Willis. PLANA Exactly, why was the first one I thought and then number four actors who also same yeah actors who also? WHO also? Run. Right monks right right about right? Yeah, right right about seeing direct have bands right paint dance make music play in bands produce raced cars last one on this list Nice Nice. Cars! Next call, this is funny. And It's not like. He's not doing anything. As far as I know, but like just as the thing Frankie on day, one might be. What you have to what does he do? All the time. He's Kinda my favorite. And do you think he's ever like an actual life? Problems are integral in bed. 'cause I can't imagine that my life would be easier if I had like. A Frankie Guerande. The question is what does Frankie grunted? Do all the time. I mean. What do you do all the time? Sir just kidding. I'm not even saying that. What does Frankie Grendade do all the time anything? It takes to support his sister. What's really nice to say supporting Oriana? FULLTIME JOB will say. Oriana. Don't know what Frankie grounded. Does all the time I know? He has his own like offshoot career of like hosting music adjacent type things, but I will say when when are integrated into the song with Lady Gaga Rain On me. I've never seen somebody more excited about that pair up than Frank. Ronn I think it's almost like she did it for him. I loved that when he did his own like fan video of rain on me, he did it in the bathroom leaky. Did it Anna Bathroom. Shower because he had to pour stuff on himself like the only way for Frankie to be secluded in the time of quarantine where he is staying with his family is in the shower. It was very relatable. He had to go into the bathroom. He's also been a lot of murder. Mysteries because Joan posted that Joan grant their mother posted that video of the family doing a murder mystery like dressing up and doing the whole Shebang in their house, and they've been doing this before like they've done this before. They like murder mysteries the Guerande family so I. Don't know there's that. What else is there to do? You're saying that what? Frankie Grundy is doing all the time is murder mysteries saying he's done a few murder mysteries with family while and Corcoran. Okay, so there are always like Frankie. You're not busy. Just do set up this murder mystery for us. We Love Murder Minister and he's like. Thank you so much about Franken We'll be going to overheat `Grande. He probably loves a task. You know. Is that what we can, that's what we can say banking. He probably loves being given responsibility like feeling like he's trustworthy like Arianna system down and he's like pre quarantine. It could be like you know. Frankie's getting antsy Frankie feels like unfulfilled. You could say Frankie. I have a really important thing. I need from you and he's got Ari anything in the world and she's like I need to go. And she gives them these various specific tasks to make him feel needed, and it's like I need you to go to this Deli on this side of town, and you need to get this particular sandwich with this particular type of bread and cheese and I need it an X. minutes and. Frankie, `Grande is, it should just be somebody's assistant I. Mean he already is sort of? No he has his own thing going. He does his own thing he does. He was also on big brother. I'm pretty sure. He was on, no, he was. He was a big brother, and he was also in a throttle. He's busy. He's wasn't a threshold and he broke up with ripple. I mean I. Don't blame you for having Frankie Grandes, your favorite, who but asking us what Frankie `Grande does. All the time is really not an effective way to get to the truth of the matter here because we truly just do not know I have nothing, but like either kind or neutral things to say about Frankie grounded. Kind or neutral? I? I, just think that being the sibling. They'll lending sibling of someone famous as our Anna Guerande. Who is sort of a gay icon in their own right like minute minor must be very strange. He's in a very strange position. Frankie, `Grande and so, what else are you supposed to do? If your frankie `Grande, you know yeah, yeah heard, weekly long-term longtime. Calling from Australia. I'm. Tryin views that he, didn't he. Faced. has potentially us to be a judge on the using how? That has managed to some sort of excuse mandatory. Hotel quarantine incoming trying to people on the social media's. Not Having A. Very unimpressed. Celebrity CA-, tourist skype. What Everybody else I just thought. Who else would want to hear about these problems? The police sorry. Crunch crunch places cows. Do Belong Indolence. I'm not promotional. This is amazing because we didn't even realize until now we're talking about another sibling of famous pop star Danny Minogue the Lesser Minogue. I'm sorry. I don't mean that that sounds mean the lesser. Lawler this call will of course I'm the Lesser Minogue I mean everyone's Mino- compared to Kylie but Danny whose name is spelt with two ends to is that's kind of iconic. Don't you think for like? Two ends into is Who Ends I didn't realize it was actually to is. Two Ns into is and Danieli Daniels so she just made that up herself to spend Oh. Yeah, no, she's like I'm. De Two wins to is Minot and she had her own like. Pop career, she did she She hosted a next top model X. factor mass singer Australia's got talent Oh my God. She's hosted every single Australian talent show, so she is what Frankie wants to be. Frankie wishes he had the career of Gananoque I mean he wishes he had the career of Carlino, but he would love Danny manolas career as well. As caller. This caller is saying what's really funny. Is that everyone in Australia yes every single person. Australia's mad right now because Danny Minogue. She came back from America and instead corn tuning, which is what you're supposed to do for two weeks in a hotel. That's the rules right now. She got to just go home to her house to quarantine. What the fuck, because they're paying for the hotels, so they're like they pay okay, the says some members of the public are claiming this is ridiculous and unfair as other travelers are being forced to pay twenty eight hundred dollars for a hotel to quarantine in upon their return to Australia. So Danny because she is. You know a minogue garbage Janney. Law Has the money to pay it. which is crazy? I, she does she will be like Kylie if she didn't, she could get it, does she? If she didn't, she could get it. It is fuck that she didn't have to pay like three thousand dollars to stay in a hotel for two weeks. That sucks. I mean it's I guess it's how else? Rich Sucks You're rich. Which I mean, let's be honest. She can afford the two weeks in a hotel. That's fine like make a little Vaca-, you know. If you're staying in a nice hotel, that's easy. That's not a burden. If it's a nice hotel, if nice down every night, so she could afford a nice hotel room service. You don't have to talk to anyone. You don't have to deal with anyone just like say. Well you pay for new. This woman has hosted that many shows like that is truly. She's the whatever the e got is of hosting competition. Reality Shows Danny Minogue has got it I. Mean Crazy. Amounts of TV shows every single version of Joe I think she was hosting the Massingir Australia alongside Lindsay, Lohan. Who I believe is no longer hosting the Messinger. Australia that was brief brief Sorry, this woman has done a lot of stuff. And she was married to the guy from from NIP Tuck. WHAT DOES FACE JULIAN MCMAHON? Did you know that I? Didn't the guy from NIP TACO? Yeah, the guy from Nip am she also starred in a production of Macbeth I? Mean let's Dan out here doing the most and I will say like. Frankie and Danny. You gotta just go above and beyond, and I for that I feel a little I feel empathy because I feel like it's like nothing will ever be enough. You know it almost makes it seem like those are your two options right? So you either try out, outshine or or match your sibling. Yeah or you just lean into being like their number. One supporter right you know, and it's like at that. That's something to do, and also you lift them up or you just go to med school where? Are the WHO are some famous people who have Dr Siblings I. Don't know, but if my sibling was Kylie known you know I'd go to med school and I don't even WanNa. Be a doctor, but I would just go there. I'd be like Oh. Forget, it. Forget this I'm going to med school. Okay I don't know if you've ever discussed him before. But I was thinking about John Show 'cause. I feel like he's. Know, who he is, I, don't think he's quite them yet. Maybe like in certain things but I just wondering because like he's also an actor that a Lotta people always seem to say like. Oh, I want to be like a leading man in this, and there's like a twitter return about it and I was just thinking I'm like. Is it who we or Zanny to have like fans? Backing you to be constant bigger parts because. It's like means that you're not getting those parts, but it also means that people want you to be then. So I don't know it was. I heard a lot and I couldn't decide if humming like a whole account about how you need to be leading. Man is who he or any. Either I agree I think he should be them. and I just wondered What you guys thought anyways black lives matter. Crunch crunch. and then no one. Thinks by so John Show is such an interesting case because he is so good and people know it and I think Hollywood knows it, too, but there is like this this time and I forget one. Was this two thousand two thousand and twenty? No, no, no, no three years ago three years ago where they were the starring John Show Movement, which was actually pretty cool. Cool it was like. Why aren't there movies where John Show is like the leading man like what's going on here there? Are you know such bad representation of Asian Americans in film and John? Show is such a big star and what's going on here? And it was cool like he got involved in. He basically was like very thankful of it and the callers asking you. Have your backing you into getting bigger parts I think it's them me actually I know I was like waffling on I couldn't really at first. I thought it was Hui, but I think it's Demi. Do you know. I think it semi, though because I thought of member when they tried to get betty white on US and L.. I know this is such a stupid comparison, because it's not about representation, but that is the me too I felt like that was pretty emmy. And this reminds me of that back kind of like this kind of movement, many movement, or whatever that actually did work in a way that got him noticed and got him written about which was really cool and I. Think it's funny. Yeah, I think if. If. You're going to do something like this. Like have a campaign where it's like Hashtag starring Joe, it has to be someone that resonates with people like they couldn't have just picked this Asian representation in movies right? They couldn't have picked a WHO WE ASIAN. Actor or else it wouldn't have worked well. What was genius was they pick somebody who genuinely deserves these roles, and who's really talented, and who I remember, you folded this, but I guess Aaron Sorkin complained that there aren't any Asian movie star of the Sony Sony leaks. Oh, man, that's so fucked. Yeah, but this was. I think it's I thought that was them eat but I think the thing with John. Show is since then. It's been a few years since this happened John. Show really didn't blow up in the way that people really wanted him to. Though I still think he's Pretty Demi. I remember this movie didn't do amazing, but people really loved it. The searching member that movie with like Debra, messing and him, and it was like everyone loves it daughter on. He did like it was kind of it. Was it was? It was a little bit below the radar I would say, but people liked. It was a humongous hit because it made almost one hundred million dollars, and it costs less than one million dollars to make so maybe I'm wrong. I just remembered a ton of money. Knocking the ending was like a real twist, and he has coming up this year which again this year is kind of a wash for movies, but he's in the cowboy bebop many series that's coming out which is big, and he's also in a star Trek. He's in the star, trek sequel that was just announced I guess it's just hard because like after this movement, which came in two thousand seventeen, you said. Said right to sixteen I. Thank you, I'm just saying it wasn't like. Then he got these big roles and I think that Jon show is them though he is a I think so, too. I think so too to answer a question. That's an emmy thing. It was an interesting question because at first, I thought it was who we have this campaign, but then I realized it doesn't work if you're a WHO the campaign won't work unless you are them because the ideas like John. Show is so huge. Why aren't you hiring him? Yeah, exactly the campaign depends on you saying a second it's it's about the realization of someone's them. Is this campaign? Yeah, totally highlands hi, bobby. I'm calling because I need someone to explain the new like I'm in kindergarten. Who Madison dear is? She liked came up on instagram. Explore page today. And I clicked it, and she has nineteen point seven million followers I know forty people who follow her about half like actual celebrities like I mean I don't know really reinhard. That's debatable, but and just like people I know in real life. And when you Google her, it says that she the singer. who was discovered by Justin Bieber but I don't know it doesn't tell very much. I? Don't really understand if she's just like an. Or who has some songs, and she's like extremely rich and I or like. If she's actually a singer. If you know what I'm. Getting at Yeah I'm just very confused. I can't get a straightforward answer, so you can help things that. I feel like there's a conspiracy to call who weekly and make us talk about Madison Beer and then every time we talk about her I. Forget that I've talked about her. And then you call and make it seem like we've never talked about her Am I going like I'm going crazy. We've talked about her at least twice on the podcasts we've, but it's about her at least ten times, but that doesn't mean that we haven't talked about at all. We have talked about her. I just feel like every time. We're talking about her I. also forget who she is and I. Do the research and I'm like we've talked about this a little then again. Mass and beer comes up a lot because I. do think that a lot of people are like who is this both the the proof is in the pudding. The proof is in the JELLO. Cheese called about all the time, and she makes headlines All the time. That's people are calling, but the thing is. She's she's. They're calling because they see her in headlines, but they're not actually like listening to her music. Seeing her do things because she really doesn't do a lot outside of influence her behavior well, we'll see what she has music, but the music is not the priority. The priority is everything else, and I also think that I I did a bunch of Masimba like what she up to, and it's mostly just like defending ourselves against people being rude to her online, like a lot of even people who are and beer. Fans like don't seem like her that much. because. That's a fulltime these days. Recently, the mass and beer news was like she took those pictures. She went to protest and they took inch. There's photos of her and people are like this is ridiculous like these are. These are clearly staged, and she had to fight back against that and then. They kind of do looks really do performance of in state. Whatever you. And then there are those photos of her hiding behind a bush out of plastic surgery place. So good work. She's literally the Bush she's. And you're like you're getting lip fillers, and instead of just being like ignoring it. She dug into it and went online and was like guys. I got my lips done when I was younger and regretted it and hated in Gotham dissolve. This is my fucking face. I'm about to start crying and she's like all these videos showing that her lips aren't filled and she the the more you feed into it, the more like teens are like Mayo matters and beer. You know the video of her at the black lives matter protesters just like on top of a g wagon, holding up her signs as everyone else else's like walking, but the protests and she's just sort of on the car. Is. Even if Even if she went to the protest after that this video shouldn't have existed like she shouldn't have done have taken photos. If she was actually there, she should have known that this was gonna be a bad look like I. Don't want to say yes, or no. She was there she wasn't there, but this particular video is bad. She knows how bad it's bad. No, it's bad. Bad and also they're also making fun of her in Tiktok memes because there's a clip of her saying that she was supposed to be in the, thank you. Next video and people are taking it and making memes out of it like you're. Let me play the clip. Hold on, let me just play the clip. I hate saying this because then. Everyone was like you're lying. Houses of the in the video. Wanted to be I was in Miami I know when they were. MIAMI, but like she told me the whole concept was like Alec between commingle thing and my red room in my house, like fly back right now. Okay, so it's like that clip before being supposing the many I wasn't supposed to be. The many people are taking memes like this one, which is the apple next to the one that Adam and Eve ate and this it's this girl as an avalanche like. I was supposed to be video. I know they're really funny either really funny. The means are funny, but it's like they are not. Teens going after her. After her. You you. I have very think about because I have very complex feelings about Tiktok don't. Tell me. I feel. We feel weird like waiting into a space. That's four like teens I'm like I feel like I feel Very Steve Bosomy thirty rock joke. I understand that it's funny, and it's these teams are so creative and funny, and it's and you have to sort of watch talk to understand a lot of culture. You have to watch tiktok to gain context to a lot of stuff that's going on the Internet and a lot of stuff that's going on in pop culture, but it doesn't change the fact that being on Tiktok makes me feel like not. Not only ancient, but like an ancient person who is trespassing sure you know this is why teens thought that Howie Mandel was kidnapped because he was making all these really cheesy and bad ted talks, and they're like this old person who's famous is probably kidnapped of being forced to do this, and I know that's a joke because he wasn't but like that's how old people feel and Tiktok as we should. On Tiktok, you know it's true. I feel weird about it, but then you follow people who like curate, funny talks and I'm like. Oh, I'm so glad your curing this because I don't I, don't like doing it, but I. Like I like the fruits of your labor and such a millennial that you need curation. You're like I need curation like I can't live without curation. Thank God I have like you Lalanne Stephen, finding, all the best Tiktok and sending them to me because otherwise I wouldn't be on the APP doing it. She Re tweeted the photos of her hiding in the Bush, and she wrote. I was there for a consultation to get a mole removed which I need. Even clarify because it's my business I wasn't hiding I. was waiting for my car and I walked out normally, but these picks go ignored I've gotten death threats so like this is what's crazy is like there's a small percentage of this harassment. That's Ella Mayo. Look at her hiding behind a Bush and it's actually mean and like best when you cry. That's when it crosses the line, and then then you know celebs are. are talking about bullying this bullying that, but it is generally mass and beers out here. Being like look at my lips now look at my lips now look at my website like stop. Just stop. Do notice the gauge. What is this thing at the end? The girl who call out wait so this girl made this Tiktok and it sounds like this. Because I support girls, lifting grows always period. Let's get straight, but when Madison Beers, consistently lying about her face and her body, and how she's naturally that way setting unrealistic body and face for young women all around the fucking. I lose my mind I. Get so fucking I. See Madison Beer. And be I've never had any worked. Turn. I've never. Off Okay so this like Angel From Heaven out here screaming about Mazandaran Tiktok, and then the best part is Masimba, got to her because she posted this other video where she's like. We talked on the phone. It's all good. Luck. Man Beer like tracked her down and was like you know talk to her on the phone. And then she wrote you know it's all good. It's all good. It's like whites, but to answer your question what you've found about Madison. Beer is true the that the that is the fact Madison Beers famous because of Justin bieber because she was like a youtube singer Justin Bieber saw her. They were both children who made videos on Youtube. He wanted to lift her up. He wanted to support her. She initially was achieving under scooter. Braun like she was fully end the Justin. Bieber Scooter Braun machine then the music became less important. Important than the celebrity and that's just persisted. That's that's the thing, is she? She was an okay. Here's my take on it. She wasn't talented enough nickel full music, so she kind of went half, music, half, insulin implants, or because he's really beautiful, which is a strategy media right? So she went, but when you split the difference that becomes the problem and that's when people don't know what she do meaning why we get a thousand funding phone calls about Madison Beer every week because people don't know what she does when the answer is. Oh, she was a musician who became an influence or essentially right It's just like you should not get yeah, shamed for getting plastic surgery if she even if she didn't get plastic surgery. No one should I know but I wish she wouldn't like dig into the response. That's when it becomes like you could win. You're on when you're on instagram like flipping your lip and showing your here enjoying your lip. It's like don't even get. That's when it becomes really funny, because then you're. Feeding the trolls. Sorry. This girl yelling about ours is still really really good. Okay, let's play a game of them. Support growth of lifting grows always Perry. Let's get that straight, but. Magic Spoon again, we're GONNA. Talk about it I like it. I saw someone tweet that they got magic spoon because I'm so adamant about it and they liked it. See I'm not lying. People I like magic spoon reminds me of like eating extremely extremely extremely sugary cereals as a kid, and knowing that I can't eat extremely extremely sugary cereals now as an adult, because it's not good for you. 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That's kind of those things where it's like. Oh, you're about to become a famous actor. Maybe you should change your name to a Chris or something. But crisscrossing back to. Well thank God. I love is worth. Okay I don't know calls over a minute long, but Walter. Walton Goggin says caller says he's a WHO and I. Oh absolutely! I see his face. Do you agree it reminded me again? He reminds me of the sequel chase from Coney Island that is such a specific. I e. The big smile Smiley. The toothy smile, the toothy Grin, and to me that's that is so rude. Yeah, he's got a big toothy Grin, just like the steeplechase face. I never knew his name until the Unicorn came out I never knew his name and the Unicorn. was that show where it was like a single guy? WHO's not a murderer? A recently widowed father with two daughters encouraged by his friends to reenter the dating scene to his surprise, he becomes highly sought after do to his status as an eligible widower and a devoted father. The cards at the show is like what if there's the rare like straight white guy who's good. He's a hot commodity right and he hasn't. He hasn't murdered, so they're like all the women are flocking. Okay, let's go to the next one. Walton goggles who get out of here? Yes. Hi Guys I feel like. About her before maybe but. I wondering if Tracy Chapman is a WHO were them. Also the make Jello. I got these trolls coming for my pillow jam. Okay, Tracy Chapman. Wanted to you asked about Tracy. Travel the new snuck in that own at the end I'll all our it okay true he. who were them one two three them? I think so for a second I was like she. But I think still recording music still good at least two big hits. Give me one reason and fast car. The influence of fast cars like the influence deniable. Fast car, the influence of the influence of Car. Fast, cars influence. I fell into some. Would you hold? That took me onto a live performance a fast car that just had me crying in my bedroom. And I was like how did I get? It's like three PM literally three PM in the afternoon on a week day and I'm watching this live performance of fast car. In front of it's a festival show. She's singing fast car alone on the stage in front of yeah, what sounds like thousands upon thousands of people and I was like no. No she's she's to them I think she's one of those. I think that there are a lot of. People, who are quote unquote big in the nineties, although Tracy Chapman sort of. Like scraped into the early two thousands briefly, and she as I said she's still releasing music. It's doing fine but I think there are a Lotta people from that era. Who are WHO's now? But. She maintained it. I think she's still even though she was bigger in the ninety I. Think you have fast cars influence the influence. A fast car is. As close. That's our permanent them. Okay, PERMANENT VITAMIN STRING Quartet. Who are them. lianne cuisine, crunch, crunch, vitamin string quartet. Who are them? But one two three Oh. You mean the band that the quartet that played covers of like of like Punk, rock, songs, or something that I was like really into in college, and then I was like. Everybody was. Like Oh, interesting that this sounds like while the fact that allow sugar. We're going down sounds great and strings. Yeah, WOW! The problem with vitamin string quartet is like you listen to it as a novelty. You're like. Wow, it's beautiful, but I'm not gonNA like be in here. TURNING ON VITAMIN STRING QUARTET AS I'm cooking dinner. We have like those songs for babies that are like also dealt songs for Babies Ozzy. Osbourne babies, or whatever what is what is the the the baby song it's like. Felix, Pando! I. Don't remember that all. Felix. Pando does not del Rey for babies feel expand owed us. Jazz for cats Felix Pando does. Do you remember this. No, not selene beyond for babies don't really have I. don't remember. I'm thinking of the Rock, a bye, baby music, but all baby music. That's fine. We don't need like weird instrumentals, and there's baby. Goo Goo Gaga during it. You don't remember this kind of not really. Sounds like Nintendo singing because you loved me, but that every once in a while, there's a Oh yeah. I remember the. Ones. That are more popular. Are The rock a bye? Baby ones like? The budget trash ones that are expand. Kito at this is. Is this Shakira Yeah. Don't lie. Maybe. This song every baby wants to hear hips. Don't lie by Shakira like all the babies are like we'd love to hear this song. You only want to hear it if it's made for babies, not the original. My baby just said it's first words and they were there. Who Baby? When you talk like that, you make a woman, okay. There's nowhere so they wouldn't say that they wouldn't have heard the original. Let's go into the That was such a diversion. Is Marshmallow who them by do. They made marshmallows or DJ marshmallow. The Guy who wears the marshmallow on his head electrical? Dj Marshmallow who were them one two, three who? Don't even know who he is. He's got marshmallow. No his name is Christopher. Comstock known professionally as marshmallow spelled. I think he's a WHO actual marshmallows one-two-three them some love. marshmallows can't go out. Quite can't go somewhere without eating more. I will say are a little bit overrated, but they're good the one time you have a year. They're delicious. They're just such a fucking mess. That's what I'm saying. They're overrated and then also I feel like a pig. Everytime eats Moore's because the last maybe five times. I've eaten s'mores. I've been involved in a situation with adults eating s'mores. The adults around me have been. A disaster. Involved with otherwise weddings WHEDON's. More, state audit. Over Christmas adults. Christmas for adults. My sister hadn't done in a while, and she wanted her sons. My nephews staffs more. Like yeah, we're going to do smart. It'll be fun in the backyard around Christmas. Do it. Guess what immediately my whole family's miserable and none of them want to eat it, and like the boys enjoy like doing it, but they don't really like the actual itself me while I'm eating like three of them and no and so I feel. No one else pointing more and here's I figured annoys me about s'mores. There is not one item in s'mores that is a pantry item that you would have whenever you WANNA make s'mores. You have to go out and get all these items like all. When just has marshmallows? No one has like the disgusting Hershey's chocolate. Come on, it's disgusting and like Graham crackers. I guess you might have, but no one really has them like in the house regularly. Maybe you do, but probably you're a baker. WHO's like making crust Salami? If. You have children I. Don't know, but like the buildup. Moore's is so complicated. It's not like you can just make it out of anything. It's like you ha. It's like Oh, we're making more tonight. And then it lasts like two minutes and everyone's disappointed is that. I've never looked in my pantry and been like. Oh, I have all the ingredients for sports. Oh. Oh. It's like ago when I was like. Oh, I have all the ingredients for Spinach, artichoke dip and I made spinach artichoke. Jackets. In Perot's I knew your and try and sneak that into the podcast. I didn't story Perogie. In the Perogie. Minute Quarantine. Thing is making Perogie though because. Guess what I don't have time to make bread I. DON'T WANNA heat at my apartment, but you know make a dough. That's really easy perogie dough. Perogie Dow and you can fill it with anything. Of any any dumpling. But the thing is is that I don't understand when everyone decided that S-. More flavor is like a flavor. We want to emulate like in other desserts like. Authentic more like love, a toasted marsh, like love, sitting in front of a fire at, but but but like I don't want us more desert outside of that. Even though I had s'mores overrated, I do think also the flavor of S'mores overrated. The flavor I see I likes. Moore's I just feel like. It's hard to enjoy more. Is because everytime meetings Moore's? I'm with people who were. Old disappointed by this Moore's, and they're like. Wow, this is a pain I'm. This is a mess. I'm actually not enjoying this as much as I remember. They think when. I work in a dozen I'm. Own fucking love it. Oh, you're saying like people like me. Ruin the experience for you. Yes okay. What I'm saying. But I'm saying you're the extreme majority so. The last time I ate s'mores. The last few times visas Moore's. Everyone is always disappointed and I know. Your who's like I, fucking love them. You're Moore's are underrated. I'm saying they're overrated, but you think you think. Everyone thinks they're overrated. Yes so well fuck. I. Just feel like I'm like the lone ranger here I feel like every single person thinks it's Moore's are overrated and I'm just there. Why can't we just enjoy Moore's? Yes, there mass, but they're so delicious. Okay, you just love, but do you like Moore's flavored desserts like if you were at like? No, if you were, there was like a s'mores cupcake, and you're like Oh like a smallest cupcake you wouldn't like. There's a disgusting thing where you eat like a cupcake. That's like cupcake and there's like marshmallow cream inside the cupcake, and then the top is topped with. Yeah, and you're like I. don't want to eat both of these things and also this more is not fresh this Moore's. Hot that this whole time that I was thinking, Moore's were overrated at turned out. They were underrated. Because all of because people, old people are ruining Moore's being annoyed by and I. think that's what I'm getting at I. Think everyone agrees with you, so there are not actually overrated well. There's a perception that they're overrated, but that perception is incorrect I everyone feels the same way, but like when people are excited about making s'mores. I'm over here. It's an on. We really have to do. This is really gonNA. Be that fun. Can we make a fire and enjoy like I'll get some ice cream and it'll be great and everyone's like s'mores Morris. Morris Morris sports you know. I know I've been there because you're the one doing it. You're the one being like smart smart. I'm the one who's always like. Babe like smarter so fucking good! I'm so excited for S'mores night, and then like everyone's like this is. This sucks worth thirty three years old. Like why are we doing this and you're like fourteen Moore's. Argues more. I'm covered marshmallow Goo. This is disgusting. The worst thing in the world does when you buy all those ingredients, and you makes more than you just have all those agreements leftover knocking to again, and you can't really eat those ingredients. I Love Graham cracker though I do love Graham Cracker, and I love the disgusting. Chocolate the thing is I love Hershey's chocolate as well. That's just I love it. But. I'm just saying it's really funny when you go on a trip with friends, and you get the more ingredients, and then there's all these leftovers Moore's ingredients. Not everyone hate the home, yeah! Nobody I took them home last time. Last time this happened. I was the one who took them home and I specifically remember. I think it was law who is like no one wants to these and I was like I want them. What did you one? I'm much Graham crackers and Hershey's chocolate for many months. I picture you out. You're like trying to make more on a stove top like pathetic like. Ask. You did. I did do that. Link? Pathetic. Covered methane or whatever like don't know I did do that over the open flame of my burner, which is probably not smart, but I did do that, and it was the only time and I was like well. I don't need to do that again, but it was good for the time being. And you also get conned into. My sister got con whenever we were doing them over Christmas. She bought the like s'mores. They were like retractable telescoping Marshall. Yeah and they were all colored and everyone can pick their color. Like the end of scores night, she was like I. Don't know why fucking these things. So. Let's do because you could really use a stick. Yes, you can use a stick in. It's fine. You never know what's going to cause. A conversation, okay, I don't know if you are one of those people who love the act of making s'mores and feels like you're alone in the world. Give me a call, and if you're one of the numbers are overrated and whenever you everyone wants to buy things you're in. You're in the supermarket going. No one is going to want to do this. This is GonNa last thirty seconds. We here we are spending time getting these ingredients, and no one really gives a shit. And there's always that one person who's making the fire, and then you make Licko underwhelming fire and it's like no. You. The fire doesn't work spray lighter fluid on it, and then we'll fire only works for like thirty seconds, and then it just dies back down again. So stupid and. bobbies over here. There's always prison who's like I love. My marshmallow toasted and completely black and charred and its like honey. You're not alone. There's always one person who thinks they're the only person who likes charge marshmallow. It's like joined the fucking club. It has seven billion members okay. Okay. Really are not clear on how you're feeling since more czar, it's like you love it, but you also hate it. I think you have a lot of mixed emotions about these smart. I hate the discourse around s'mores Moore's or just or delicious, and I feel like people refuse to accept that fact they're delicious. You hate this Moore's discourse. You just want to enjoy your small. 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"The Change. Between. And? Hello again, everyone. Welcome back to coast would. The twin piece podcast what are your Co Host Charles? skaggs. Back and goes with forest. Trying. Really hard to hide on the coronavirus. But? Still not working go figure it has infiltrated our government. It is everywhere. Yes. Then took. Some interest today because Hey Ohio's governor. Got The virus. So I started out. So he started out so strong and. Just caved to science denying pressure sadly yes. Has the coronavirus g darn. We're not GONNA be well, I guess we're still opening schools. Ridiculously enough. I don't know I think now I think a lot of the districts are going. Distance Learning at least for the first years he's for the first quarter. Here's hoping. So thankfully, my my wonderful co and spouses here to. Put all that aside and We're going to try and talk some more Mahala drive. Did it added A. That's going to be in my head. Now, all evening it's been in my head for a month. It is such a catchy little riff isn't it? Amazing it's like such an earworm so. So yeah you know back in episode seventy nine and you know we we talk we were viewed Mahone drive. We unfortunately weren't able to recall last week because Hey Zana's husband Chris had a birthday. Happy Birthday Chris he sure. Baby so So. Understandably, we took the week off and the week. And So now we're playing catch up but. Hope everybody joys here at episode eighty s we talk. The criterion collection's special features a drive at long last. And I know that this is this is something that friend of ours of the PODCAST DJ Nick. Has. been waiting for. So he was apparently beside himself once I told him that. That you had canceled on last week's podcast because of course, when I talked to him earlier today, he's like, when are you recording goes to it? I'm like in like two hours it'll fine. So so so go nick. So hope you enjoy it. Even though we still has no idea what the hell we're talking about. which is he needs to at least at least watch this one. Yeah. That's the thing unfortunately when we get to nineteen eighty-seven for our gold standard pod. Unfortunately. We will not. Yes. You kind of got a little lychee, their park. Oh sorry. I said that when we get to one thousand, nine, hundred, seven on the gold standard podcast unfortunately, we will not be talking about Blue Velvet Unfortunately because it. Did. Not Win best issue, but I will be talking about it because we have our segment called if we were the academy, what would we have picked in? Hands. Yeah I believe the blue won best picture that was. Definitely tune in for that. So even though hey, we've already talked blue velvet here and ghost with so. Can it be. Talk of it every other day. Yeah it's not like there's a, there's a limit. So. So getting back to Mahala and drive. So we talked about this. Already, you know at the two thousand, one new armed mystery film written directed by David Lynch. The Criterion Collection Blu Ray release came out on October twenty seven. Twenty fifteen. And After. We you know we last time we talked about the movie you ran down the cast. In broke it down but. We didn't get to the special feature so. You you WanNa talk the booklet first or do you WanNa start going into the DVD the BLU ray special features interviews. Or the deleted scene or the onset footage. How do you want approach this? Well. Let's talk about the booklet I. The booklet is not terribly terribly long like forty eight days. Yeah it's. It's. Not Terribly terribly long and. It's a lot of information that you do wind up hearing and other interviews. On the disk but what this is is an interview with David. Lynch about you know there's a little bit of A. You Know Critics Synopsis, and Animal Analysis at the beginning of the movie. And there's an interview with David Lynch and. It's so interesting when you talk when you try to talk to about anything with David Lynch. He's he's so very. Evasive. Not, Avai Sive. But. Reinforcing of the fact that so much of what his movies are feelings images. NOT NECESSARILY LINEAR answers. And this is this is just How know how? How this came together how this look how it felt it just felt right that kind of thing. So. I always like to hear David Lynch talk about. His work because I feel like asking David Lynch. Questions about the work itself. Is always kind of futile because I think in David Lynch's mind it is what he saw and it is what you saw an. And, it's whatever whoever watches it sees. Right, so I don't think there's ever any time when. David Lynch's. Like for example, if they've erected bladerunner. Yeah. I don't think he would have ever gone on record about whether or not record is not a replicant. Oh, I, agree with that. Totally. Yeah, he would. He would that up to the audience who you know the to your own interpretation. because. You know we've talked to other. Lynch films. Obviously, we've talked blue velvet. We've talked to raise her head. And It feels this is just example of where Lynch I think feels. What you get out of the movie is entirely up to you. And you know and it's very subjective and you know and if you don't, you know if. What he presents isn't exactly the way you take it. Or you take it differently from somebody else he thinks that's great. Right he's he does not have. A lot of issue with that and I think that's part of why he any talks a little bit in this interview about how he? Clashed with ABC and there's a bit where it's kind of cute where he says. I don't think I quite got it then, but I'm pretty sure ABC hates me again. That's That's what I mean. There's there's there's some stuff here in the booklet about that, and there was like some stuff I think in the interviews about that. So. If you WANNA go down those but it's up to you. Know. If you're if you have if you have the notes, go for it and we'll Okay through it I, just have some highlights. So yeah, that's what I was saying I mean we don't. We. Don't have to page. Book on tape from US or something yeah. Obviously. We don't want to spend forever on this but. Now, because you guys should go out there and buy this and I'm sorry it's August now and you missed the Barnes and noble half-off Criterion Sale. But this is worth full price and there's always next year. Yes. Right exactly. But. It's totally I made. I made so many decisions for did you make? On the sale. Yes. I think I bought about five titles. But I got worthy world's which is one of the ones I'm very excited about. So that's cool. Yeah. Unfortunately elephant man was not part of that because it's not it was not part of it timber but yeah, I'll. I'll probably I wanted to get. Rosemary's baby but nobody had the BLU. Ray. Oh. So I'm just Ordered it. Does. This leave something for Nick yourself maybe yeah, that's true I. Just I spent too much money 'cause I got but I get we're the world's the red shoes the cameraman. Local hero and then I got that box set that America lost and found box that has like five easy pieces and head and the last picture show. Really. When it was going to buy that for half off. By the box. That's that's a good point. So head was in that. That's interesting. Yeah Yet the MONKEES head so. That's cool. So stuff I got notes on. We find out that Lynch lives just off Mahal and drive the actual Mahal and drive. And also used it of course, the location. For, what have Zanskar scenes the Mr Eddie tailgating seen in lost, highway. I want you to get a manual. That's a that's a film would have to. Say. What say manual? Everyone's favorite road nightmares Robert Loggia. Going off on the Maga. For Omega Hud, it's Robert Lucien. Going full. Full. So. The other thing I love about listening to David Lynch Talk Yeah even in an interview and. I wish I could see David Lynch's Los Angeles. I feel like. There's a Los Angeles that David Lynch sees that I haven't seen before and. His, his love of the city I just don't share it and I don't see the same thing. But I want to see the Los Angeles David Lynch sees. Yeah apparently. There's a somewhere in the in the interviews. That he's talks about other was talking about how Lynch. Like. Got There at night in Los Angeles effort he moved there and then apparently woke up the next day describes the sun is like the brightest. Sunrise or whatever that he'd ever seen. And it filled with all this creativity. The like he knew, this is where he needed to be. And that reminds me of the scene where Betty gets off the airplane and she's looking around and it's so bright and I don't believe it. She's so excited to be there. So she's Beaming and Like there's this, there's this Los Angeles that I don't think exists anymore. Like. David Lynch. Los Angeles or Alex Cox's Los Angeles or. XS, Los Angeles or something. Like the existing more like I would love to. I would love to see New York. Nineteen Thirties. New York, but that's never going to happen. Unless. You found Tartus somewhere. Yeah exactly. Aren't. Exactly. But that's a whole different puck. It's out in the backyard, but but brigadier won't let me in it. Young. Brigadier. Chicks fist. So, apparently they during the initial pitch of ABC TO ABC consisted. Of A woman trying to become a star in Hollywood. It at the same time finding yourself becoming a detective. And possibly going out to a dangerous world. and See I think that's the elevator. Yeah I think ABC thought this is going to be way more linear than it actually is. Apparently having never watched their own twin peaks, right? Right yeah, exactly. So. So apparently Lynch one and to put a piece small piece of Sunset Boulevard Music into the film. but he talks about that paramount won't let you show their logo on their gate anymore. I know what is up with that? So he did. Get a chunk piece of the gate, but you can't show the top part with the logo on it. Right, and but apparently, the car in that shot is the actual sunset boulevard car. That is amazing that. That and what is so? Happy about finding that car. Yeah yeah because who was looking for that car in Sunset Boulevard. Gordon Cole Yeah. So they don't. They don't really mention that this interview but yeah, there's a there's been a real sensible of connection with David Lynch for a long time. So. Obviously with the Gordon Cole references especially. That's maybe that's a movie we need to review here on the podcasts Sunset Boulevard. I think we've probably apparently since apparently this was the you know. The the grandfather of all twin peaks, related movies Sunset Boulevard Mulholland drive yeah I hear you and we should totally do it. I think that would be relevant especially for the Goal Gordon Cole reference. always worries about the studios forcing them to do things, which of course is why you always insist on having final cut. make sense. And that's the thing. If you don't want a David Lynch movie don't Hire David Lynch yeah. It's like. We pretty much know what he's about these days. It's Kinda like right there on the packaging what he's about. So yeah, he doesn't hi I'm David. Hi I'm David Lynch I don't think you want me. I don't think you want me directing your troll sequel access. or a toy story five. Oh my God I would freak in love that Davis Toy Story. David. Lynch's Toy story five. I want you to know. When Buzz Light Year? Jesse's on the horn. Yeah it'd be amazing. Peachy keen guys peachy keen. Means He. Loved it. So Lynch was apparently listening to Billy Ray Cyrus at one point who wasn't on the casting list. And thought but. That's gene pool man just gene pool man yeah. We got it. We gotta get him Find Me Billy Ray. Cyrus. Exactly. Get Billy Ray on the horn. Yeah, exactly. Oh my gosh. Yeah. That was. Yeah where he talked where he's talking about casting about how? And this is an interesting point and it's very true. There is there are certain people that you really can't cast for television when cast for television ups, different faces than you do for movies. and His. Thing he said he's like 'cause you're pretty much sure that Harrison. Ford. is off the table when you're doing something for television. And I thought that was interesting because I feel like. In this movie does such a good job of being. Movie Stars. That it's okay but then you have somebody like. Like a Chad Everett who I feel like is kind of like a TV guy like a TV movie of the week type of a type of a person. I, thought that it was I thought that was a good mixture of people could do well on TV and who can do well in film yeah. Well, there's there's something that's kind of interesting. Forget to the Johanna Ray. Interview. Yeah. where she talks about that at all Lynch is focused on their headshots. How people look he just wants pictures and he? Doesn't care about if they can act or not. Brain he'll figure the as as is. As illustrated by Monty Montgomery and we will we can talk about that and a little bit too. Yeah, exactly. So So that's kind of interesting. He's he's he's more focused on the look orange or if someone like if you could picture them in the movie and that's Kinda interesting to me. Right Sin Probably really frustrating to most casting directors, which is probably why you always goes to Johannesburg. That yeah. That makes perfect sense. So. This is the big you know. I'm sure this answer people's questions Lynch says that the Denny's restaurant on Sunset Boulevard inspired the winky. Wright and said, he thinks there was a satanic booth. Yeah. He said he was like a Sunday morning here listening to a conversation about God and he turned around it was the Church of Satan like Elvis from churches eight. Yeah exactly. He thought well, they're just having this really nice talk about God. and. I love that he was having a Grand Slam breakfast. that. You know. What are those four? Ninety, nine everybody's Everywhere. Everybody likes value. Bring me the Grand Slam Grand Slam and coffee hot lack. Thank you ma'am. One thing that was and I keep, we keep going over the interviews but what is up with Justin through? He's talking about how he's a big David Lynch fan but he's never seen David Lynch do you not watch twin peaks Justin through exactly exactly with you yeah. The something a little off about quite jibe does it isn't quite he doesn't quite get it. Yeah. I don't think. So can you actors? What are you GONNA do? So. And then He was attracted Lynch's attracted to the past I. Thought This was interesting. Explains a lot because he felt he was something he felt watching the arguing comedies as. He felt the thirties a place back in time. So essentially. He fell in love with the idea of watching something before his time. and. It's something that kind of has carried through especially in like movies like Blue Velvet, right or Maha, and drive because Mahone drive has a lot of that retro feel to. It has low that Richard, field and it has a lot of that you know like with an Miller of the Hollywood guard and. He also mentioned in this interview about how? We spend a lot of our time listening to retro music and watching Retro TV. But moving towards the future we're always looking back even though we're always moving forward, which I thought was very interesting statement well, I think it's also because we don't really WANNA lose the past as we go forward. No we don't and I. Think. All schick and whatnot in so. There's that kind of. that. Disconnect a little bit because you're. So instead you want to move forward but the you're so afraid to let go of the past right is Billy Bragman said nostalgia is the opium of the age right and it's You know you see it all the time with people. You know things things were better in my day or they don't make movies like that. Anymore. I don't know what's wrong with kids these days and I don't know if it's fear of change or fear of the unknown or a little bit of both. But I would argue both personally or. What is at home? Say on the office I wish you. I wish you knew you were in the good old days when you were still in them. because. The. Onion. Article That I love that man always wistful for three years ago. Like Bands were better. Food was better movies or better always like three years ago. So that's fine. It's a very true. We spend a lot of our time listening to things from the past weld moving towards the future. I say this of as seeing Zandt and surrounded by all her CDs and meet surrounded by all my comic books. As our physical physical I. I can't wait for CDs to come back the way that like cassettes are coming back right now like. Vinyl came back cassettes come back. Td's gotta come back eventually, right? Yeah. They're going to they're going to have their comeback and then everybody I just want to know eventually. Vinyl, snobs will be like. Well, you know CDs that's that's that's new like you I can have the entire. One side on one side and you know I don't have to lift the arm of anything. I want to know what everybody who gives me crap about still having my CD's what do they do with? There's just throw them out one day I know it's if they just say. Oh, spotify exist now back up the dumpster honey like I don't know I mean if you sold them I get that because at least you're getting money for it but. Yeah, these are I got a CD player in Nineteen ninety-one. And I have some CDs from that year I. Still Have Them. Yeah I do too because I got mine, I think it was. It would be eighty, seven I. Think I. Got Mine. Okay. Yeah because. My I I can actually remember my first three CDs. So as it was every breath, you take the singles by the police. I hate that remake of. Does. But I mean it was like a greatest hits album. So it's a great greatest thinks. That, when remake well, you know. It was the remake that broke up the band. So Stings nothing like the Sun Solo album, which is fantastic album. That is a good one and rem's green. Excellent choices those my first three CDs ever. Nice. Nice my first CD, was tears for fears songs from the big chair. That's a good one. And it is to this day still one of those records that I can listen to all the way through I don't want to skip any tracks. So. and. Then I don't remember what after that. But yeah, I mean it's like, yeah, I got rid of my tapes because I. Think my fourth one. Was You the Josh witchery? Nice excellence. Yeah my for my I did have tapes that I just want up getting rid of because. I didn't really have much to play them on anymore and The CDs always had more tracks. So I wanNA replacing those tapes but I replaced him you know it's not like I just checked him on the garbage one day, right? So, it must minded like I had a bunch of stuff that I taped off the radio. So as far as sincerity well, if I've replaced it with CD's that's much better. Yeah. You're good and I had stuff that I would buy at us kids records they had tapes for a dollar and I'd be like this is the car. Yeah. I had like the car I had a couple of albums that I had a car copy of when we still ahead cassettes in. We still set players in the car. Yeah I had. Joe Jackson's look sharp on cassette. And end either CD or vinyl maybe three but I wanted a car copy of it right? So yeah. So It's A. I mean I guess I. Don't I don't feel like, but the thing is. I still do spotify so I don't feel like I'm. Trying to hold onto something I just never got rid of it. You know. I mean still there. For me like listen to Sirius Xm for the stuff that I don't have in my collection. into learn about new vans. Yeah. Exactly. Not GonNA, win about new bands if you're just listening to all of your old stuff but. Still I want to you know I'm not gonNA throw away my crap you know. All right. So getting back to Mahindra before everybody's like get back to the film already. Hey it's us. We tend to do this. Go figure this we re title this Digression Theater Pretty Much. Yeah. because. That's what we do. Let's see what else so. Lynch was told by. That the cut needed to be eight minutes for a two hour time slot. But but his Co. was around two hours and five minutes. Yeah. His he was trying to talk them into a three hour time slot. Yeah. Which I think mash has done and maybe the thornbirds has done and that's about it. It's not a new miniseries David. Minutes. You realize that that is thirty two minutes of commercials. Yes, for two hours. Yeah. was. Apparently that just frustrated him to no end. So he had an idea to cut that into to make the first part the pilot. But ABC insistent on the eight minute version. ABC Suck it and he felt that was a nightmare and then of course, ABC never calls him or spoke to him about the eight minute version. Called other people to tell him about it that he. And he finds out about when he's in the bathroom getting ready get on a plane. It's it's not going to happen I. looked at it. He makes the comment like, yeah it was getting I was like. Taking a leak before I got on the plane taking before. I. Got in the car to go to the airport like he couldn't just say I. was getting a just before I got on the plane he's. Taking a leak. I Love David Lynch's honesty mid Western who knows how this how this works he's just given the straight story, right? I see what you did there. Thank you very much. Thank you. Lynch keeps flirting with TV despite his bad experiences because he loves the continuing story aspect he likes continues three aspect, but it's hard because you know one person can't direct all of those episodes. Yeah, and so you know. Any other directors going to put their own flavor on it so While he sometimes likes that idea sometimes it's hard to give that up. Yeah. Because he just loves the idea that this story can just go on and on and on. Which is Probably why he did things like The cliffhanger with Cooper and Bob. And then. Laura Palmer scream at the end of. Three three. Just, to keep it going. Right, just the story continues with or without him, it's almost like. You know maybe there's some sort of other dimension in. Or David Lynch movies give. Wes Craven's new nightmare or the dark half where your character lives even though you're not writing it anymore. Welcome to another dimension. That'd be that'd be interesting. Yeah. You're a fan of this show. So I thought I'd mentioned this. Lynchfield that on the air which ABC, cancelled after three episodes he was very dismissive on the air not happy about that. I didn't think you would be because even. As a quote, pretty stupid comedy but some people think it's funny I'm some people. You are some people I think it's hilarious and there were three episodes and taped all three of them I did see three those on tape for years. Yeah. I lost my tape, but I did tape them. Yeah. there. Wasn't more. In, that Wacko puppet leaves a finger on me. Again, he'll be near Salvation Army barracks. At the bottom of an orphans barrel before the sweat dries on your hand do I make myself clear? Excellent excellent quotation. Excellent recitals. Perfect. Much Talks about here Ataman from the French company studiocanal talking that he apparently, he asked Lynch for permission to look at the pilot on tape. Apparently. There was like a tape of that circulating around apparently. From what we're talk. And it's like, oh, it's so embarrassing because not only is it a crappy version? It's a crappy copy a bad VHS right. Exactly. So just looks like you really don't want to look at this, but Pierre apparently insisted. And then came back a day later saying I love it. Let's make a feature out of this. So which of course took like a year and a half later to happen. When he was asked about his love of putting women in trouble and making them cry. On twin peaks and Mulholland drive, he says I know what is that all out yet he's Like. I he says, he doesn't know what it is that fascinates him but then he turns around and says Oh. I don't want to say what it is because it won't be enough. So that. Contradicts himself a little bit there. That's mysterious. It's David Lynch comes with the territory, right? Right. And then lastly, in this, the other last note I had. He said that Rebecca. Del Rio Barbara Orbison. Yes it was always Roy second wife and she is the one who translated crying into Spanish, which I think is really cool. Yeah it is. Yeah. So it's kind of the Roy's wife was on board with that. Right and the whole thing he talked about with Rebecca del Rio in how he had. Thought about putting crying in Blue Velvet. But when within dreams instead so I just I I thought that was an interesting. Story about. How We're just been bouncing around in David Lynch's head for years. Yeah. and which is not a problem because I mean. WHO's Roy Iverson Fan? So I totally get that heck. Yeah Yeah. Sure Yeah. So. That's all I have for the booklet unless you had anything else you wanted to add. No that was about it. I just I think like I said, David Lynch Los Angeles sounds like a much more interesting place in Los Angeles I've ever been to. See let's just put it that way but yeah, but CD, but in a but in an interesting way, well, with Lynch, though there's always that dark side. So yeah. Yeah. It's not like he runs from it just kind of appeals it back. Every so often. So there's a trailer on this one minute, forty, two seconds if you want to check it out. And then there's Four sets of interviews, and there's one deleted scene is what do you want to talk about the lead scene? Yeah. Let's get the deleted scene out of the way. Okay. Last time. So we should cover that. Yeah. No, it's it's the two cops talking about. What they found and it's I don't. I didn't feel like it was a particularly necessary seen like I don't feel like I think it was a good cut personally because sometimes you watch them, you wash deleted scenes and you think why did you cut this out? This is great or something. And the only thing that I thought was really interesting about this one is that first of all, I like seeing those two actors. You know both of them are low, no longer with us, and so it's fun to see them Yep Brent, Briscoe, and rubber forster. Right. The printers co mentioned something about how The can't find fingerprints on these guys. There's no fingerprint records of the guys in the car yeah. I thought that was interesting because like do they not exist to this actually not happen. It was. Because it was for the TV pilot. Click an idea they planted, and then maybe later on, they would do something with something like that but it. Makes you wonder did these Happily happen. Yeah So, I thought that I thought that was interesting but. I think it was necessary to be. Yeah I, think it's a it was a good idea for cut and. But also you thought it was also interesting that. The wallets that he found were apparently filled with phony credit cards that came from the two guys in the Cadillac. So. Yeah. So what was the deal where the you know the the phony credit cards where they like gangsters or what was the deal with the guys in the Cadillac? See, that's the thing I don't know and we never will. Yeah we still don't know. But you know that's the thing we don't need to for this to be a satisfying movie. No, and maybe that's why that was cut so that you wouldn't be asking these questions. Because those the point of the guys in the car to get in a car accident and to get re to. where she needs to be that was their only. That was their only thing. Okay. So we had like I said we had four interviews. With David Lynch Naomi Watts to. Laura. Harring Johanna, Rey Justin throw in neo. Me Watts. The other one was Angelo battle lament, which had a couple interesting things and last one was Peter Deming the director of Photography and Jack Fisk. To production designer, right right. So what do you want to tackle I lynch in Naomi Watts is kind of a big one. Yeah we can take a lesion. Emmy Watts I thought. This was a really sweet interview because a the two of them just seem to really genuinely like each other. And there are some moments where he was talking about how she didn't when she came in she didn't look like a picture. So this interview was first on the list. So we haven't heard you talk about. How David Lynch is obsessed with pictures. But. He says that she didn't look like a picture and she's like was that disappointing like it was devastating and the? doorpost. I thought that was that was so cute and he's so. Nurturing. When he talks to her and just always reminding her talented she is and. She said that she was. Thinking of going back home to Australia because it just wasn't working and then. and. Then this happened while you know that's something I thought was interesting because not just the OB watts also, Laura Harring was ready to give up her career. She was VJ I had no idea did not remember that at all. She was on like vh one or something I did not remember that I didn't remember that either I had no clue. But so apparently, so I could see because she obviously had to look. But yeah, the she naomi watts talks about how on the day they were supposed to fill in the masturbation scene. She had horrible stomach ache. Yeah. Well, she apparently A. She had butterflies in her stomach because she was so nervous about it and then. Lynch supposedly like tried to make her feel safe by putting like ten around her. Yeah and there's like thirty five guys crew standing around outside. Right, and she was croupier well that and then she's freaking out she's like I can't do this. I can't do this and she's yelling at Lynch and he's apparently just eerily calm in that David Lynch way talking through it's. Like. Okay. Now me Nay Okay and and Somehow she got through it. and. It's I think it's I think he knew she could do it. You know. So she was mad at him for making her do it and then. Somehow. Transferred into like, Oh, I'm glad you may be do this or. Later later on. When lawyer hangers like ladies were doing this and there's going to be nudity. Like it's going to be a movie now. So buckle up. We're going for a ride. So yeah. It's like. It's the fridge they wanna see the nudity it's studio canal. We need. Bubis. I also love the story he told about meeting Rebecca del. Rio. Yeah she leads her like right off the street she said. Right up the street, she sings that recordings in the movie history. Apparently that was the only one she did. In that was it. And mazing yet is so she knocked out of the park the first time So that was pretty cool. So Let's see what else some other things notes see. Wait Naomi Watts spent like ten years of auditioning in La then until she got the call to meet. David. Lynch. And then she says Lynch was beaming with light and energy. Which allowed her to show herself. and. He asked her questions that she felt like she could have him questions which apparently no other director head-on. She's crying the and the end of the interview. It's so sweet and then he's like, Oh, I love you so much Naomi Yeah. It's it's really sweet to wash it two of them together. Yeah. Lynch was talking about apparently. After getting the talk with here at Askmen. that. Took about a year and a half. He said this sets the wardrobe and props works quote put back into the stream or destroyed. Yeah like they got put into the wardrobe got put into the Disney rotation and then they couldn't find a lot of it. So they had to recreate a lot of it. Jack was no. Of course, interest talk about how he had like. Is. But. Then he says that night he sat down and meditated. and. Supposedly after that, that's one idea after another came out like says a string of pearls and they knew exactly what to do. Right. Lynch Calls Naomi says it might be happening. She gets like eighteen extra pages of script. And apparently the thing that popped out to her where she understood her character was the audition scene. Oh, yes. Yes. Where there's I love the the the. Economy between her reading. The lines with learning with Rita Yeah with Rita and then going in to the director of chat ever and being so much better. Well, the. Feel of it is with chat every it's much more intimate in whispering and seductive. Yeah. She so She so much scarier with her. Kill you. Yeah. Pretty much. Yeah. She really is amazing that this is the girl this. Exactly. Yeah And she talks about lynch pushing her with Betty's arrival in La. Like, she had just tasted ice cream for the first time. I know isn't that adorable? That's great description. she feels like he lets an actor what they WanNa do, and then he's he suggests what he thinks is missing. So basically go nuts and then. If I don't get what I want. Dental suggest stuff then I'll tell you. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. took. The musical theme from Holland. Dr. Was Apparently Angelo Valenti working on to Russian themes and lift says he's suggested putting them together, right? Right and he says he'll sit with Angela the piano and then talk words to him. Then something will catch Angelo and he compose something, which is something that gets explored a little bit more in Angelo's interview. Right but he says that he he really feels connected to Angelo that he can say things to Angelo knows exactly what he's thinking. So I think that's an interesting relationship also. Naomi discussed the scene with the hitman making mistakes. That was so funny which she thought show's Lynch's humor which. He's talked about. and. Dark humor, but it's funny and then Lynch brings up the love scene right after that So it's like he's a she's talking about something joking. Then he counters with her love scene with Laura Harring and I liked how she was saying I was really nervous but I'm watching it. It's pretty hot and I'm glad it's I'm glad it's on film. CELLULOID was. there was pretty good. And they found got an Miller because Lynch's assistant went to a screening and she was sitting in front of her yeah in her. and. Then suggested like. Yeah and should be cocoa and Lynch's like Hell Yeah. Should be let's do that. You're darn tooting she should be. Literally had not been in a movie since nineteen seventy, six right when this happened so. She sort of came out of retirement to to do mahone drive. Now, Lynch also talked about that. He felt a money. Montgomery. Was Perfect as the cowboy but money cannot memorize a line. Rave is life. The is life which is very true and Justin through talks a little bit more about that in his interview in the in the next interview. But something I thought he added here. The I thought was interesting. Monte apparently brought his own wardrobe as the cowboy. Yes. He led which were Tom, mixes closed that apparently, he probably owns he probably Botha's it. So that's what that's what he which is fascinating. So for those who don't know Tom Knicks was a very early Western movie star. Early earliest western. The Twenties and thirties that they had. Very famous and popular in pop culture. So, so. Distinctive, look, which is obviously we see in. As, the cowboy, he looks like Monty Montgomery. Obvious, right. Yeah. And then the interview closed with Lynch Neo me saying how fortunate they were. Lynch Call Naomi's insecurities about not being good enough. And that you know that's that's so sweet I think. I. Think that's one thing we didn't talk too much about this Charles, but there is a bit on this dvd of. Just behind the scenes footage right where you watch you know it's there's not much to say about the onset footage. Yeah. Yeah, it's the winky scene where she's trying to hire a Hitman to To kill her name like the characters accumulate. Yes. Yeah. She flips the line. She does a couple of times and there was was right after the this girl line to this. This is the girl. Yeah. David Lynch when you watch his processes a director so Patient and kind. And I think that's one of the neatest things about David Lynch and. One of the things that I don't think people understand about David Lynch. He's very patient. He's very kind he he's doesn't rush anything. And he tries to get the best out of people by giving them positive reinforcement. And so many people think that people who make weird movies are Weirdos. But everyone talks about how David Lynch says just a sweet friendly guy. And these behind the scenes. The behind the scenes footage that we've been able to see on this DVD and on. The twin peaks TV's he's really a very, very kind director who's really trying to get the best out of his people. Would work it almost. Takes a fatherly approach to as actresses. Yeah to everybody. Yeah. Yeah. I mean He. In its senior talking about where she fled the line, you know he he sits down any kind of focuses her. until she gets it right. So he because she keeps she keeps. She was bringing up and then being nervous about the fact that she screwed up and then we're it up against right right exactly. So he called her down and then she got through it. Yeah. Yeah War we're talking about the onset footage. We see stuff like you know the the secret path. With. You know where Camilla leads Diana the car and then. something. I thought was interesting was Angelo being onset calling Lynch's second best wife. I thought that was adorable. Yeah. His his actual wife is this I best wife Yeah. That was so funny but Angelo makes a comment that apparently lynch? Unlike most directors who go to the composer after finishing the movie. Lynch ask him his thoughts during filming. Yes that's what he appreciates. We see inch putting the final touches in the poll set evening like asking the pool chairs to be removed. Because it's not what he sees or wants to see. And then we got that dining room scene. Where Adam his whispering into Camilla's ear and they get goal during the? During the announcement yeah. Yeah. So we got to see that, and then we get to see close ups of Diane's reaction to the announcement and stuff. So. which is you know and I I love David, Lynch's direction that you look just a little too long right I. It's so subtle but it works so well. I think it's was credit as an artist that he's able to express. described. Things so that you do imagine them in your head. And I think maybe that helps a lot of actors, visualize it what they need to do. And obviously works with Angelo so. We're so apparently. David Lynch superpower. Works for me. So you WanNa Talk Laura Harring Johann Array. The. One of the the second biggest interview I think the second thing is to interview it's it's talking about. The process of casting that how you. Look people that you think will work, and then you bring the best ones that you just just sorta her process. And this is where she talks about how David Lynch's very interested in seeing pictures. He's more interested in a picture than he is in like when you do. Her. Dishing smuts in your picture. Easier picture, and then you are having a talk with him. So it's not really it's not really a traditional edition so she talks about how? She. Takes away the headshots of people who she thinks her bad actors. Because of that, we thought was funny because he would just focus on. The link and not worry about their acting ability. Because, she thinks that and they would have some auditions before David. Lynch got there. She would take some photos and show David Luiz the photos because what she didn't want him doing was picking a bad actor saying this is the girl than having to be told like, no, this person can't carry with you need them to carry. So I thought that was really interesting and she talked about how she first met David Lynch. And they met through dino dealer. Because, wasn't it? Raffaella was Raphael Dealer Rentis Oh yes. It was Raffaello because they had worked on. Red Sonya Red Sonja and and she'd worked on Conan also. And David Lynch had worked of course on Dune. So. And this is interesting to me because for me and I think it's because of the age I was at at the time. But With around the time of Red Sonja in Conan, he was finishing up. Dune but starting to work on Blue Velvet, right? They didn't have time to go through all casting, right? So he was saying, Hey, you know once you're done with this red zone, you think do this. Work with me on Blue Velvet and it's weird to me to think of those movies being even remotely close to each other in time periods. because. First of all, there's such a different movies, right? And for me. The early eighties Blue Blue Velvet was eighty four. No. You're right. Was Eighty around. Sorry you're right. You're absolutely right. Dude was eighty four and blue velvet was eighty seven. That's only three years. That's true. Yeah. But to me, it feels like there's an ocean of time I think it's because of what my life was like at the time I was I was a child and for me the early eighties in the later eighty S. There's a great divide between them because I moved. At the beginning of nineteen, eighty five. I WANNA say January second nineteen ninety-five five is when I moved to where I grew up in. Worthington. So I spent the first part of the eighties in one place in the second part of these in another place. So there's this huge marker between everything. So it doesn't feel like like now three years like nothing. Back, then a lot happened to me three years. So it felt like a new house new schools new for a lot of things transpired for me. So it feels like a million years between the two movies, but it's only three and I'd never really stopped to think about that like, yeah, this is. This is pretty These are you would just go right in and you're not gonNA. When you make a movie the entire movie isn't done like in three weeks of that year. There's some overlap. Yeah you're writing a script, you're getting a cast, your funding locations. So I just I just thought that was interesting about it. How much that just sorta hitting me like well, these movies really were close to each other. Yeah because I guess he was doing post production on Dune at the same time casting blue velvet right and apparently he knew he wanted comic Lachlan. That was the only thing he knew is he wanted Kale. Kale Yeah. Exactly. His nickname for comically. And then. Like from Holland I, guess he joined caps keeps all these photo albums like these large. Photo albums like twenty four of them live set. Yeah. Just bring your photo albums. We'll go through it and. She and she said that she was surprised that not many people knew who Naomi Watts was at the time. Because join away thought she was. She really liked her a lot in feeling like a real failure when this movie came up like she was gonna move like I said she was going to move back to, Australia, she was going to pack it in but she was. Friends with Nicole Kidman who kept saying something's GonNa come something was gonna come so. Far from tanker all but that was about it. That was what I knew her from also when I love her intake girl. Yeah, exactly. something. That I thought was interesting was Johann of talks about the casting procedure. and she says that like I, you make lists of who you think would be right for the relief roles. Right, and then you pick someone off that list and if they accept. Then, you start with the other roles. So just a little insight into the casting her her her process was very interested but obviously, Lynch's candidate process a little different. His tax is a little superficial I, think. A. Little Bit yeah I'd say so little on the super a little superficial site. He's looking at headshots going yeah. That's that this is the girl going yeah this. This girl. And then ler hearing this was interesting. She was talking about. First of all Joanna Ray met her because she had apparently done a movie for her son Paul Delray Yeah so Like this low budget film like a low budget film. So that's how she knew who she was. and. She was late to her meeting with David Lynch because she was in a car accident right and Said you've got like so excited when when she got the call to meet Lynch that she ended up like she was on the freeway and then bump the car in front of her. Then she had to call back and say, well, like Sorry I can't come in because I was just in an accident can they Michigan and? Yeah and she gets like you know that your character starts off in a car accident right? Like this is Kismet. There's that. And Pretty. Pretty, pretty scary. And Jessica through was in New York and so he had to send tape. So had a little bit more of a traditional. On. More of a crush traditional thing and then. He tells the story about. Montgomery seen. Yes. I love this. since he can't memorize his lines justin through was talking about these. So he knows that he's not an actor. So he's Hey, you wanna run lines of these. No I got it. I looked at it this morning he gets like three words in and it can't remember anything. So you didn't understand the memorize this stuff he didn't quite understand that. The depth of memorization. So He Suggested through so that they had to have his money Montgomery's dialogue tate suggested through's like forehead and chest. That's why they shot him from behind because. Looking to see if you can see like a little corner of a piece of paper. They did a good job of hiding it. But yeah, his, it's like the suit calls diaper. In us in the original Superman movie that Brando is reading from but Yeah, Monty Montgomery was friends with David Lynch, and so he liked he liked the look and thought he was good for and he's He's great. His his delivery is perfect and even Justin through said, it makes him sound even more like other worldly because he's so monotone in his eyes are kind of going weird ways because he's reading dialogue. So yeah. The apparently tried to shout out the lines I and that they tried a bunch of stuff but it was just not working. But yes. So he read he had to read it off of Justin through his body. Serious Thought that was funny. And then just anything that was going to work until he actually saw the film yeah, he's. He's this is GonNa this is GonNa look like a nightmare but he said it worked perfectly yeah. That was good. Apparently Johanna said that a Lotta actress took small roles in Mohali drive. Expecting that the TV series would lead to something bigger right? Right. She said that a lot of people were in it because they thought they'd be in more of it. So that's why you have like a Robert Forster is a cop who is only there for five minutes someone that a bigger name than you would normally get for that kind of a role. Exactly and apparently that's like the norm. That sometimes like the do that with the hope of something bigger coming down the line. Yeah and that and that it certainly worked out for Robert Forster twenty years later. Yeah. Just throw talks about ABC sending a memo that Adam couldn't smoke. And there are, and then they're apparently there was a rule about the dog shit that that got lynch protesting about it. which I think is kind of funny. Yeah you. David Lynch argument that he's like get people smoke you know. And one child that hasn't seen dog poop in their life, I? Mean come on. Yeah. It is pretty silly but I mean that's. It's the whole network standards and practices that is just ridiculous roles. What are standards and practices but At the time to ABC was ABC family. So it was it was when ABC Disney I got into bed with each other. So I'm sure it was even worse than it was in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, nine when he started trying to get twin peaks. Taking care of Oh yes. So exactly The watched apparently didn't know that she would have both betty and Diane. Yeah that was new for her. So she was like what? Yes. Oh like she shot the pilot and all she was betty with a hint that betty would change and She describes Diana's freaky messed up. But Fun for an actor to play. I'm sure aside from masturbating onscreen but yeah, you know whatever? No big deal. Right. Now. And you already kind of talked about the nudity think so mention that but The just said he would ask Lynch questions about who his character was aware was going in Chicago. I don't know find out. and. That's I. think that's a great lesson for David Lynch for people in David. Lynch it's like look. Whatever you think is GonNa Happen. It's going to be a one eighty tomorrow. This is these are not linear people. There's not gonNA be. Point Eight to point B. and on weekends point seat you're not GonNa have that. So you just gotTa. GotTa let David Lynch happen apparently four yeah. Just have a very ad present approach to it. Yeah. Just let it happen and it's nice to know that David Lynch has approach to life with penetration and. that kind of mental control don't think just let it happen. Don't just let it happen. Just fly. Naomi. said that she would ask questions as well but Lynch with delight and the mystery of it Then she'd end up relaxing entrusting him as a result. That's kind that's Kinda of all you can do. A. Laura Harring sees Lynch has like poet working with metaphors and similar ways. That makes sense the moment you walk in his set you're walking into his world she says. and. This I I really loved. So Laura said that Lynch prepared her day. Oh me for going before going to con-. Oh Yeah. That's here and says, girls you know that account they can do you. So keep your Chin up because creativity as an art form that nobody can really judge. It's your expression and your expression is good enough unquote. I love that. That should be should be unlike placard somewhere. It really should because David Lynch's so right creativity. In itself is the art form. Yeah, and it is one hundred percent subjective. The reason why? Edward Movies are so bad. Is because you can see the string, you can see the the headstones falling over its. Daytime one minute nighttime the next minute. It's technical reasons why they're so bad. But. It's still a creative process there. Still value in we're still watching those movies because they still entertain us right. Burden might be a stupid movie that we're still watching it. So it's all completely completely subjective. and. So don't let it bother you and even and even in the interview in the book where I forget. Exactly. What David Lynch says about it, but they were talking about how it was. He says critically, it worked out unbelievably will financially it didn't work out because it didn't cross over to the bigger population why it beats me. Because that's I. Mean that's the thing. It's. It's. Beautiful movie. It's a fascinating movie, but it is not linear. and. Then may not appeal to everybody and it might appeal to everybody that doesn't mean the creative process is still valid exactly. So I just love that quote I want. That's why one. Verbatim because I thought it was worthy. that's why half for that set segment of the interview. So we have Angelo and we have Peter Damning in check fisk and I think that's it. Yeah. Angelo I could listen to all freaking day long right. I love listening to Angela and if you can watch this on TV with sub Woofer while he's playing the theme I, highly recommend doing it because the theme is the theme to this is so beautiful if there's anything that can hold a candle to the twin peaks theme, it's this one. Yeah I mean it's It's so haunting. It's so haunting. Yeah. I. Mean I. You know me I love mysteries of love and I love the right. I love everything Angeles everyone but. This is really just beautiful and Angelo is just he's like an adorable Grandpa with his stories I just love hearing him talk hearing. He tells some great tales in this one. Like I didn't get out of other criterias that we've reviewed. No I just love his story about how he was playing piano as a kid. and. All the other kids and I just I just love that he's from Brooklyn and he would look at his window and see other kids playing stickball. That is so nineteen fifties, Brooklyn I adore it. and. He's like, oh. You know all these other kids are having fun I'm stuck inside. So he tells us his dad I, want to quit Pannella. That's five five spent. But? Don't go. That his brother comes home and gives him crap about it. What do you mean you know and then by the time he was twelve his brother enjoy late talked his parents back into not letting him quit. Right right and so And then by the time Angela was twelve, he realized that when he would play the piano girls that sit on the bench next to him so. Because because he played instrument, he became a chick magnet. So he's like you know what? This thing isn't half bad. No, it's like wait I can get girls with this. Okay. Tuncay time to practice. That works and then he tells he tells David Lynch about his run in with the mobster. Right. And David Lynch. See. That's great. The great story which was essentially the inspiration for. Angeles character in Mulholland drive Louis Castellini. and. So you know he told David Lynch that story and then when it was time to film that seen, he's like remember that story you told me about that guy just be that guy yeah, exactly. 'cause you said, yeah, he was like invited to a fancy dinner by the Sky Joey's wife but the Guy Joey shake Angelo's hand and apparently there was like a singer there. But the Guy Joey just kept singing like sitting there eating some soup didn't say a word. Yeah. It was very bizarre. So. So like he tells Lynch and then Lynch comes back like nine months later saying. That wants him to wanted Angelo to act in the movie. Drinks coffee and spit it known. Well. This Because he's Angeles protests I'm not an actor, but Lynch like said I want you to play Joey in the movie and I'm not GonNa tell you like I want you to do something but I'm not gonNA. Tell you what it is until. You, show up on set. So he gets there, then Lynch tells them about rolling the espresso around in does mouth and spitting it out YEP. and. Apparently that he says, that was the end of his career. He's never done acting ever since. Durable But so that was great. Yet Angelo is always is always a joy to talk about he talks about doing. Music for Ossie Davis is. Movie Gordon's war. which apparently was up like Paul Winfield blaxploitation film it was a Paul Winfield blacks rotation film in Ossie Davis wanted like an all black cast and crew. and. He said he's like Angela I love this music, but you're not a brother. And he said well from Sicily and look how close Sicily is to Africa. So I might not be a brother but I'm definitely a cousin just thought that was the door of a good line apparently, Barry White was supposed to do the score. which would have been. Both would have been AVAK. Fabulous I would love to see Jerry. I. Would have loved to have seen Barry White Angela elementary production that would have been that have been gorgeous that would have been interesting. Yeah. Yeah. So then. He also told the retold the story about Blue Valor, which we kind of talked about about helping Isabella, Rossellini. Teach you what does that mean? It means he loved it. Exactly. he talked about The Mohan opening theme being created with Lynch before anything was filmed. Right. They did the theme before they even were doing the the movie or the TV. Yeah that they were standing there talking about. You know the Russian team and this is what came out in apparently that they're kind of echoed back to the Laura harring interview because she talked about that how Lynch would like play the theme for her. And have her listen to it. And then he would sit and watch her to see if he could picture her in the movie. Right, right I also loved her saying when they're going up up the side of the hill into the secret entrance in the secret garden walk like a Kitty cat. Yeah that's a good line I thought that was that was so cute David Lynch's so like. Fifties mid western I adore I. Love It. Yeah he is. He is. And then apparently the scene where enemies the cowboy had music played at one quarter speed. Interesting you know kind of like the whole Yeah Buddy magnolias thing in the written American woman the American. Woman remix yet Lynch Nexia. We're hoover. Yeah that. So. Anyway. So that's that's basically the ngelo interview in nutshell, it's wonderful and then. demi-god. Yeah W. the. I knew the check this David Lynch were were friends from childhood. Sit the next grade in the ninth grade that I didn't realize that they had left Montana by the time he was in the ninth. Grade They were in Alexandria Alexandria. Virginia didn't realize it was that. I thought that was later. So apparently, not surprised me. Yeah. Jack talked about you know race being on eraserhead playing the man on the planet. then talked about how like allied artists studios was going out of business so they can have anything they want for one hundred bucks. Heck. Yeah. All right. So they did that, which of course? Lynch. Lynch built into. Sets. Back to Mahala. Deming Deming was brought in to shoot six episodes with various directors. So smart. He was concerned it was going to be you know. The plane was. On a series yeah yeah. Jack says that Disney asked if they could shoot Mahal and driving Canada. But of course, Lynch loves Los Angeles. So, Mojo and drive has to be Los Angeles because it is Los Angeles Los Angeles. That's like asking if you could. That's like asking if you could shoot. Sunset Boulevard. North Carolina. Yeah. It doesn't work whereas like can we shoot Broadway in Iowa something like that? No fired go. Seating what you're talking about. Exactly. See Adams House was protected with a met clear vinyl toback different me to protect it from the pink paint but then I know that was an actual house but apparently that wasn't enough they ended up wrecking the kitchen or something got every oh, man so they got kind of. Yelled at for that apparently, and it's funny because when I was watching the The interview scenes and they had clips of. Just, through an money Montgomery, I just started every time. I see Justin through with that pink pain hunting laugh. That seem to so classic. Nonchalant about it like he doesn't care that he's got the pain all over him. No, he's just like you know what what else can happen during this day. Exactly. Everybody has. been fired as credit cards have been frozen his wife has left him. It's like what the Hell I care about some checking. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. It's like I have zero s to give about my zero. Yeah seriously A little bit more about winky's apparently Lynch was saying that he was at Denny's on Sunset Boulevard at night they walked out to the trash bin and then the Hobo came out and scared him see that would've given me night because as soon as he said, it was like. Oh my God because that that part of that movie scares the crap out of me even though I know it's coming. Yeah it's it's really terrifying. So apparently, that was based on a real incident that happened to Lynch which I thought was interesting I think that's very interesting too because it is it is really scary it would be an in the movie it happens during the day it would be even scarier at night right? Exactly. What I have to wonder is like why was lynched going out to the trash at night? He probably wasn't. He'd probably just his car was or he was walking that way or so. Since It was in the parking. Okay. So so so he's returning to his car just happened to pass by there. I see. Yeah he was probably going back to his car and he either having senator he parked on the street and he walked past it or something I was trying to I was thinking for some reason that he had something that he wanted to throw away. So it was like I'll go to the trash bin he accidentally through his retainer. took his plates. That's funny Talks about Jack was talking about that. He allegedly used ten gallons of paint the Exterior Club Salon. CEO. And he also talks about Lynch's love. Red Drapes from Mr Rocks, he's he's like is like if you're not sure what to do on a David Lynch sets it putting some drapes and he'll be happy if you're ever stuck us just US retrace just use your at drapes. That's true because I'm sure that's share some of the yeah I'm sure. So much of that. There's Redgrave's I'm sure there's red drapes in eraserhead to we just don't know it. Because it's black and white exactly. Yeah. We'll probably probably you know that scene where. The stage, the stage. Yeah. That's gotta be rates right with a girl from the radio. That's that has to be read Raves I'm sure has to be. Deming said they only knew about the pilot episodes. Even though he was brought in to shoot episodes just didn't know what they were I. Guess he was GonNa figure it out they went along I think they were trying to the crew was trying to figure out what would happen betty. Lynch wouldn't tell them, of course. Of course not and Jack Mentions that. Lynch used to be a professional sweeper. WHO SWEPT THE SCENE FOR THE STREET STORY HIMSELF Now, where have we scenes where we seen that before? Yeah, Anna. Exactly then. Like ten minutes of sweeping sweeping and ten minutes of green onions exactly at. The roadhouse so So So now we have. The understanding why that? Sweet. Together now it's all connected. See See this is why we know we do these kind of reviews on ghost war because. We can get these insights in like Oh. That's why that happened. The insights and the connective tissue into the mind of David Lynch. So apparently, lynch has a sweeping fetish who knew. Is he like Emery Badass to see vacuum fetish to it would make sense why that vacuum cleaner isn't there now that you think now that you mention it seriously or maybe that's David Lynch's way of saying that emery is like a bad guy because he doesn't like brooms he wants a vacuum cleaner and you know you can't trust a guy who wants vacuum cleaner. Just blew my. mind. And so you know he's a pervert is because he likes vacuums. He should like. Light, rece-. Issue like sweepers like normal people, normal person and only quitters like vacuum cleaners. Talk about Mr Frosty. Oh Mr Strawberry. My little snowman. And of course, and lastly, Jack in obviously this is pretty succinct. Describes Lynch's complex individual. No kidding. No kidding I mean. He is complex. Flex in the sense that he has. Complex spots but I don't think he's necessarily complex person. Like I don't think it's pro I don't think it's too hard to figure out what David Lynch wants. You know. I, think he wants you know I think he wants the ability to be creative at the he was a good diner breakfast in in a cigarette. Even give him a grand slam and. No. No hobos popping out from behind the trash bin. Given with Grand Slam cigarettes Rub offi crossed with green eye shadow. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. French. Girls with. French girls of green. He'd be. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. He's he has complex. Conflicts thoughts, but I don't think complex person. I don't know what David wants to. Okay Do. You want he wants all the good furniture. So. We reviewed the film. So what's your rating for the blu-ray? Oh my rating for the BLU ray and see it's hard. It's hard for me to know about this stuff because. I don't know how much else is out. There I would have liked to have seen more stuff. Yeah. If there was any more stuff. So. I'm giving I was a little little let down but we'll talk about that and minute. Yeah I'M GONNA give this eight out of ten blue keys. Okay. because. I I really do like watching and I could have sat and watched. David Lynch's filming process on the extras for season three of twin peaks for hours. I mean I know I've seen those things before and it's very working on a movie set is very tedious. It's a lot of hurry up and wait but I could have watched it for hours because I think it's fascinating. But that doesn't mean there is that much out there. There might not even be that much out there. So, like they said, a lot of stuff was lost from. Disney. And so I don't know how much they kept of this I don't know how much they. We don't know how much survived. Yeah Yeah we don't. I don't know what's out there. So as much as I want more stuff out there, it's not like there's something I'm thinking of that would like to see I would. Love to see that eight minute cut that's what I was just about to bring up because I would think that would be the ultimate special feature that would be the ultimate special feature but that's the David Luiz doesn't like it so I don't believe. So when we probably will never see that probably won't see it. Yeah and I don't I don't blame him that'd be like saying. That'd be like saying to somebody you know hey that. That really crappy drafts that you did on bad paper can I look at that? You know it's not. Whether you weren't happy with that you. Don't like it when you were forced to turn in early. Right the one that you don't think is finished and you don't like end is on crappy video. Let's take a look at that. So I don't blame him for not putting that on here, but I think it would be. I think it would be interesting especially this far out when this when this was done, it was fifteen years from when the movie premiered. So you know this far out. I feel like it's kind of an academic situation at this point. So it'd be interesting. You know. We, we have the same discussion amnesty. Three K. fans have the same discussion about the early early early Katie, a public access episodes. You know. They're not good. You don't know what look good and it's like. Well, WE WANNA see want to see you. And just for. The sake of historical context. Right right and as a fan you're wrestling with respecting. What the director wants to present to you and wanting to see everything you could possibly see for it. Funny that you bring up since I'm wearing my mystery science theater shirt, I didn't even know you're wearing that anything with. Year. No you want me baby. Exactly. I wanted to decide who lives and who dies I WanNa do is listening. That's my all time. Favorite Crow crow quote. That that that one is pretty darn good. Crow. In the back of the shirt for those out there in podcast land who obviously cannot see the back of the shirt so now So. Yeah. I'm with you on this when I give it an eight out of ten as well. Give it. Eight ten Grand Slam breakfasts yeah you do so. GimMe the Grand Slam. Grand Slam with coffee and if there's pie saved me some. Just, writing itself. Thing and it might sound like. Series about David Lynch. See we're we're sort of like we're not really doing bad impression of David Lynch we're doing a bad impression of Gordon Cole as Gordon. Cole were David Lynch. Exaggerated for comedic effect. Hopefully, it's comedic anyway exaggerated for comedic effect. Yes. Definitely. Because you know I would do nothing but pass out from. From if I ever won that meeting David Lynch I look to say. It's not a disrespect. We're not making fun of them. We're in embraced find out that David Lynch's name is an epsteins files I am going to put a bullet. Don't even don't even. Don't even go there. Did. You hear about Stephen Hawking I saw that that that was enough. I mean. because. I'm physics Geek so I was just like what the actual F with that. Apparently infinite reality, infinite. Universe's into reality is there is there is a reality out there where Stephen Hawking likes hookers and apparently it's our reality. So. He didn't he knew he got divorced because he was hot for somebody else. Well he initially got divorced because he was hot for his nurse right and he married his his his private nurse, his caregiver nurse, but then she was abusive. He divorced her too so. I guess I guess a guy gets lonely. Well. Just shows you no matter what kind of physical condition a guys in. Apparently he pays enough you can have A. Company lady for meaning if he's got, he's he's definitely thinking about it. No matter what. And you Stephen, Hawking? Anyway. Let's go on a brighter note. We got some leftover feedback from suites. So if you got time, we can do that. Because I think we should get to it. So I writing in for last week's episode last episode and rather. Matthew. Curtis. Writes in. So. He says, dear, friends I. Just want to say a big. Thank you for the return rewatch. Absolutely. Loved it, and at the time of typing still one to go while hopefully, you've finished it by now. Hopefully. Enjoyed it. I. Hope you're both keeping well, and you have been a great escape for me during the lockdown months. So that's great to hear. Thank you. Matthew. Thank you for watching and thank you for listening definitely and I love your podcast and it looked forward to what's coming next. Your idea of Dr Sounds like a winner. Awesome and after your discussion on DRI. We thought there Richard being electrocuted happens at the same time as her waking up in the white room. Somehow, breaking her limbo just thoughts interest. I love that thought Matthew. That's a good one. I never even put those together now. because. Of obviously she's he's her son by Leslie. So yeah, that would. That would make sense I never never make sense that I didn't make that connection. So pointing love that theory. To Give Matthew points on that point points when. We're just GONNA mark went up there for Matthew. US. Anyway all the very best you both and again, thank you so much for the time and effort you put into the podcast I really appreciate it exclamation mark. All the very best Nazi from London. Well. Inc Nazi from London for. US We really really appreciate. So hopefully you stick with us since PS insane touch. PS though. please. Don't forget the doughnuts in the cheetos on the next podcast the pain. The pain in your voices is heartbreaking exclamation mark exclamation mark. Imagine being without the cheetos think about that pain. Yeah. All right. Now Oh you know like i. told Zan earlier about a very stressful week. I just had this past week. So without going into details for those of you in podcast. Lane I just WANNA say my wife Lori was very considerate and brought home a box of. crispy cream donuts. Hell did to. Now, half of them were for her the other half of the dozens still for yours truly so darn good. Yeah. So So Laurie gets wife points for that as far as I'm concerned Heck. Yes she does so anyway just so got some donuts. Cheer me up on a rather stressful day died. That's. Known it's. That's that's fabulous. Doughnut disturb. It. And lastly, a certain gentleman by the name of. Nick Pizza Day. From you might have heard of that writing in from about. Dr. says. Dr. Charleston. Zan. Nick. Impression. Don't with Steph time writer to the show. Oh, my goodness to the I went ahead and watch. Nixon impression of you. Now that's going to be that's going to be. You just have to put a bunch of comes and goes and that stuff. So just it out. Just ramble a bit I guess. Pretty self aware. So he says I will ahead and watch mulholland drive for. The first time. In all I can say is I was completely blown away and I will certainly be exploring more of Lynch's filmography after movie as and as promised to Charles I will be watching the twin peaks pilot. Fantastic now, he's already watched it by the time you know. So so I made the suggestion to him like. Well, we should have you on the podcast to talk about your reaction to the pilot. It'll be interesting to see somebody's reaction to the pilot who watched it. Essentially, a century later. In the following century and Also lead Leonard who's a special guest companion the next up everywhere friend of the show? Yes. That friend of the show. has also recently watched the pilot. So I thought. So I thought you're creating two weeks converts. We should figure out a way to get both of you guys on. Talk about your reaction to the pilot. I. Just I can just imagine the two of us. Oh, youngsters tell us what you think about Mommy and daddy's show. In you know make sure you have it right now. Yeah. Don't don't say anything about it because it's awesome. It's perfect and I love it never going to be bad ever and we've done eighty of these pot of these episodes about it so. You'd better be nice just so so you understand that it's perfect and better than anything ever. Mine appease accused buster. You don't know who you deal with. Just picked right up I. Love It. I want my daughter out in for the school in ten minutes by herself. Do not let me do all affairs. I know it's it's so easy. Isn't it? School with a few words if you buy God. Nick do a pockets where we can talk about Ferris Bueller burst that podcast right? It's only like one of my all time. Is called. We'll get. There we go. That could be. Yeah. That could be one of the gold standard patron. So There you go. If we were the academy John, John Hughes would have one at least one Oscar for at least fair steelers released you know an honorary. Oscar right. Request your for Awesomeness. So nick continues. He says, if I May offer my humble theory when it comes to what is going up story. Wise. Up until up until we get Naomi Watts playing Diane Selwyn League. Entire Story we get previously with the characters of Betty Arita. Is Betty completely in denial of having placed a hit on Camilla and her trying to make some sense of what she has done and reconciling it from going through or excuse me reconciling from it. I E going through the famous stages of grief and her going through a delirium or. Creating a whole new narrative for herself in for. Camilla. Just interesting just like Lynch polls from his own dreams everything we are subjected to before Diane Sell Week. Wakes. Up is a hodgepodge of her dreams fantasies and maniacal ravings. This is just one man's theory. But regardless of what the deal is, I absolutely loved this film and I look forward to more than Cina ventures. Thank you for providing us with hours of entertainment and making what could quite could be quite the Meyer to way through. So entertaining, you're both amazing. Thinking you neck talk you. WanNa no one. Talk to you about soon the smoking man Dj Nick. Oh well, well, well, nick might be interested in what we have in store coming up next. Exactly. That's exactly what I was thinking. So But. Yeah. So Nick, always great to hear from you. Thank you guys. Thank you both Matthew and Nick for writing in. Your thinks that thanks for listening. Thanks for writing in touch. Yeah exactly. Especially, Matthew with that great great connection there with Audrey and Richard. Yeah. That's that my my brains are on the floor with that one. Yeah. I don't know why we didn't pick up on that one but at the makes perfect sense to me, I love it I. Love It. Exactly. So Be Like Matthew and Nick, please do. You should they're awesome. Exactly. Right to us. It goes with PODCAST AT DOT com. To nance. Because we PODCAST G. DOT COM or echoes what cast on twitter? Or goes with the twin peaks podcast on facebook's. So, Zayd working they reach you. On the FACEBOOKS ZAN sprouse. The twitter and the instagram as. Nineteen hundred. And talking about Oscar Oscar gold movies on the gold. Standard. Oscars podcast with our very own DJ Nick and Rachel. Friend. Exactly. Just recently, also on happiness in darkness, I was recently unhappiness in dark superman to talk it superman to with Dj Nick and Molly Southgate who was our guest a surprise guest who? It was interesting to talk to somebody. So much younger, right. and. Had Not seen this movie before. Oh. She went into a cold she went into a cold. Yes, Trista. So that was because I was I was telling the two of them that Nick hadn't seen it for a long time because. Liens twenty minutes into this this episode. So and what's funny is when I've done I've done two episodes of happiness in darkness one of them. Superman. To and the other one is Flash Gordon right and every time because like why are you picking these movies because they're the most awesome movies? He's always he's always very surprised because when when I did Flash Gordon, he's like I'm surprised you pick Flash Gordon I was like dude I had than Flash Gordon Wedding March at my wedding. So expect you to pick I'm kind of curious I know right but yeah so superman to. The Superman movies for me in the eighty s were like what the wizard of Oz was to everybody a hall superman is going to be on TV. 'cause my parents. My parents didn't have a VCR for most of the first half of the eighty S so. It was a big deal for me and I'd seen and then we finally did get a VCR I was able to tape it off television and wash it a bazillion times. So to talk to somebody who had never seen it before. was and somebody who had. Grown up with comics and like. I don't want to say better superman but different superman you know there was Tom. Welling Brennan Ralph. Campbell Jerry. To See, what they think about this movie which Has Its problems but boy is a charming. I mean you know we've talked about this. Obviously, I'm a huge superman fan as well. Superman. Know Nine, hundred, seventy, eight film. Is Off the movie? Is Pretty much. Yes. My all time, favorite comic book movie and One of my all time favorite movies period. And It was superman to I've got I've got a personal story that one point I will share with you. Awesome. Yeah. But but but I have a very personal connection to that movie. So. So just leave it there. So. In a lot of affinity for it. So as a result. Think I personally think I and I've said this before I think the Superman, the superman. Soundtrack, the scored a superman the original superman is the best. Wins. Yeah. Yeah. It's his masterpiece pretty much I. Mean it's It's such a beautiful score because I got I bought the three CD version. Not Too long ago. I started to get that is just it's magical I absolutely adore it I mean. Because I still have my original vinyl. Of the race and? Obviously I don't listen to it because, hey, CDs around but I still haven't really nice condition I might add and. But I mean, it was just this beautiful like you know this double disc. With. The gate full foldout, our full. Yeah and. It's just it was just one of my all time favorite soundtracks that have lingered in my head. Yeah. So that's why I had to spring for this three CD version because it was just so. I still have to get that. It's that is that is on my list of things I need to own life. Just, one of my favorite scores ever of any ever do you listen to the soundtrack show shows? I do not. You need to listen to the soundtrack show in you need to listen to. It. Yeah. The soup he finally did Superman this past April. and. It is an amazing listen to that one and listen to the one about dinnie offense, Batman. That sounds good. You'll will be hooked on this show and don't try to listen to it when you are doing anything else are trying to go to sleep because you will stay awake. Really close. It's like listening to music theory lecture. It's fabulous interesting. Yeah. I highly recommended I. Get to do something Angela battlements related. Thanks for the recommendation there. Yeah, and everybody else out there. Go listen this show. You absolutely love it. All right. Good to know thanks him. S for me, of course, skaggs on twitter at Shell skaggs on instagram. facebook course Shell skaggs hit Ohio. And the blood my blogging things. Debut coffee in hots. We're talking about all the stuff we talk about here on Ghost. Where'd your twin peaks? David Lynch stuff comic book Scifi News Podcast for Southgate media including next up everywhere the doctor who podcast. Where g? Nick Zahn occasionally Zana's on occasionally. Anniversary aren't ya? Yeah. Because like are two hundred episodes coming up two hundred episodes like you guys. Yep. So pretty cool. We just had our sixth anniversary. So impressive turning the big O. Six and one thing we did for Christmas birthday we went to best buy we got those. Full full collection box sets of all of each of the doctors. The. Doctors yes. We've been waiting for their prices go down and we got David tennant and Chris Eccleston was like twenty dollars. So I was like, okay. We're GONNA finally by A. Good. So so look forward to hearing from your thoughts about that. Well, you know me I love Christopher Eccleston. Who Go yeah I think a lot of people were. But Yeah. So. Yeah, we got our big two hundred episode coming up here in the near future. So stay tuned for that and. The Panther Fan of Zone podcast. They do Jesse Jackson, where we talk Right now, we're finishing up star girl that's on DC universe in the cw not sure talk about. But I gotTa tell you Charles when talking about Superman to. I had to very consciously say, Phantom Zone, yes because I was what I wanted to go. Zone for me. That's In there it's not a it's not a P. Two P. A. T. not an ethnicity. Exactly. So yeah, fandom. Thome. Yeah there's. A very, very consciously make sure I enunciated the I. Yeah I understand totally trust me. I tripped on a tripped up on it all the time as you could probably And then, of course, talk to teens podcast today. Currently doing with DJ neck where we're talking doom patrol season two, which has been fantastic. Nice. Having a ball with that. Just watch the season two finale tonight. We'll get that to that in about three weeks because we're kinda three weeks behind because they did the first three episodes They released them all in the same day. So we're constantly playing catch up with that but yeah. But kinda helps drag out our discussions a little longer which is good and we can really deep dive into it. It's a lot of fun Knicks Been Great. And hope everybody checks it out. So I think he should yep. So question now is. Next Time Ghost would. What did we talk about? Well, you know Charles, there's room for more than one. One. Yes. Real on our podcast. Okay. Did we did we skype out there for a second just a little when I was GonNa say Charles is that there's room on our part. Yes. There's room on our podcast for more than one beautiful TV show on the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Now, this there. Is. You have you have anybody else in mind and it's in say in addition to a certain. Del Bartholomew Cooper perhaps. Well. I'm thinking about Possibly, talking about in L. FBI show that also had David Duchovny. And Don Davis and Michael J. Anderson. And Michael Horse. And Russ. Tamblyn. Be X. Files you're talking about would it be the X. Files? Yeah. So I think we should start talking about. Twin. Peaks x-files connections and actions. Yes. So it's something we kinda talked about a little break before this episode and Yeah, because there's been numerous. Numerous various twin peaks actors who appeared on the show on the X. files in addition into an peaks. So some of the rather notable playing some other notable characters so. With, that in mind. Then I decided. Hey, we should talk about this stuff. Especially since. David do companies like the lead characters on the show right. Companies are FBI connection between peaks and X-files, and as a lot of twin peaks. Fans old enough like the both of us from back in the day after twin peaks was canceled. The Expos was kind of like our refuge filled avoid. We're drift for a couple of years but then the X. files filled a void for us. You know a lot of a lot of filled that void with. To that Pacific northwest void with the X. files and northern exposure during an exposure. Print another particular favorite of mine but the X. Files in for a lot of fans especially kind of captured that that mystery and and. In the creepy nece. So is a natural fit for for twin peaks fans becoming x-files p. with P. H. I l. e. s.. Yeah that's they called us that didn't exactly that you know that was the nickname back in the day, the X. Files the X. File. Files. Yes. Expert files. So We're GONNA talk vase. If that's okay with everybody I'm guessing it's going to be okay with a certain DJ Nick. WHO Might might enjoy that he was kind of insisting like. You guys do a podcast an files podcast like we get enough going on man enough podcasts. and. Exactly like I got four right now. So what what do you want from me? I've been talking six hours straight I guess tonight. Exactly. So we should probably wrap this up right let's wrap it up. All right. All right. So everybody. So yeah. Episode Eighty One we're going to talk the X.. Files pilot. Yeah, we are because we need to talk about the pilot first because, hey, you know it's Dave do Coveney. So what better place to start with with? With the company himself. So we'll talk about that next time. Zan Thank you very much for hanging in. there. I know you're kind of playing on the disabled list tonight. So they that I'm having some trouble. So with that in mind everybody. Thank you so much for listening. Thanks for writing in. Hope to hear from you more and we'll see next time in two weeks four episodes eighty-one, the exiles pilots right here on ghost with the twin peaks podcast good-bye everybody. D-. D-. On. VK