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The MMQB NFL Podcast
"devin lloyd" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"Playing well. Whole thing clicking. So a lot of people, I think, will say, well, Justin Jefferson still had 227, I think, or whatever was yards in this game. But Detroit's defense, I think, played really well. And I think it sort of goes back to that question Gary that you and I asked like, what if you just put a lid on it, which is kind of what too high man is and you're like, okay, we're just gonna, you can do your thing. If you just in Jefferson, you can have 220 yards, but they just have to be less destructive for 220 yards. And I think it was as un destructive of a 227 yards as you could possibly have as a wide receiver. If that makes any sense, and it was weird 'cause a lot of the throws, Kirk Cousins was under duress a lot. I didn't see a lot of openings for him. And there were some throws that were basically like, look, I'm on the run, I'm gonna grip it and rip it and Justin Jefferson is just the absolute alpha person in 50 50 balls. And he's just gonna grab the ball and rip it away from you. So I thought that was, you know, and what they allowed less than two yards of carry for Dalvin cook. So I just think that this lion's defense is really coming around. And so I wrote about this, you can actually Dan Campbell predicted this on hard knocks. So back in hard knocks, he was flipping out at his team for not being able to tackle. And he goes, do you guys just really think that, like, what are we going to do? Just start to turn our season around week 8 when we finally get enough reps to learn how to tackle someone. And that's what happened, which is really cool. So good for Dan Campbell. Ultimate knower of future things. Jaguars, Titans. At this deal, I didn't look Jaguars apart on the Titans. It's just the way it is. And I will say, though, the Jaguars won this in a very tight and Z kind of way in a, you know, what, it ended up being four takeaways. And no giveaways. And that's obviously a huge edge there at that point, but this game was pretty much over midway through the third quarter. They gave up another big day to Derek Henry here, but Henry ended up losing two fumbles and yeah, that's the other thing. I mean, Trevor Lawrence is just a different class than Ryan Tannehill. So the Jaguars, if you give them basically a four O turnover margin advantage and Trevor Lawrence is playing in the game, it's a blowout, which is what this one was. You're insane, hot take that nobody believed that Trevor Lawrence was gonna be good, Gary. I think is coming to fruition. He is, but in all seriousness, he is brushing up against superstardom at this point. I would say. And kind of in a fun, anonymous way for him and Jacksonville where it's not uncomfortable. It's almost the perfect place to do this. You can make mistakes. You can have your bad games, not a whole lot of people are gonna notice. And then maybe next year, the team is kind of all right, you know? They were, they were also, they were getting a little getting a little chatty in this one, too. Did you see him waving to everybody? Wave to everyone, he did a little scoreboard point a little scoreboard. I don't want to overstate it the Titans were kind of trying to mix it up on the victory formation stuff. But yeah, I mean, gosh. This is what the Titans do to people. And the Jaguars did it the Titans and it must have felt really, really good. Yeah? Good day for really the Jags franchise as a whole. I mean, Lawrence obviously played well. They got a little confident to run walker, the number one pick with a forced fumble that set up one of 19 Evan Ingram touchdowns, which was like, where are we? This is great. I love this team. You know what it is. It's just, it's got an expansion team vibe to it and I know that they were an expansion team at one point, but Christian Kirk, Evan Ingram. It's all these players that you're like, I don't know, man. Like their own teams didn't really want and they're putting them to good use. It's very neat. And I think as soon as the defense gets plugged in a little bit more and we start to see some maturity and some growth there. I liked Devin Lloyd this season. I know like PFF absolutely hates him and just says horrible things about him online. But I think once all this stuff kind of gets rolling in the right direction. This is going to be a pretty darn good football team. When the world gets in the way of your music, try the new Bose quiet comfort earbuds two. Next gen earbuds uniquely tuned to the shape of your ears. They use exclusive Bose technology. The personalizes the audio performance to fit you. Delivering the world's best noise cancellation and powerfully immersive sound. So you can hear and feel every detail of the music you love. Bose quiet comfort earbuds two. Sound shape to you. To learn more, visit Bose dot com. Imagine air travel that's simple, hassle free and fast. 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And it also helps when the other team just keeps on turning it over and also gets stuffed on the goal line on a fourth down. But the other takeaway is it was nice to see the Texans turn this back over to a professional quarterback and baby. I think between mills and honestly, like I don't want to make this a podcast where we constantly pick on Kyle Allen, it's still just blows my mind that they started Kyle Allen for two games. Yeah, play a professional player at quarterback
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"devin lloyd" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"And it's time to start building that way. But it's working. I mean, we're three games in. Again, I thought they were better than the commanders, and they blew out the colts, and they blew out the Chargers at this point. And, you know, yeah, the Chargers, you know, Justin Herbert playing with the rib injury, maybe not quite himself, had an unfortunate tipped interception. Near his own goal line early in this game, that sort of set them back, but this was for the most part. I mean, James Robinson went all over the place. It just felt like one team that just sort of forced its will on the other team. Yeah, you know what the really the unsexy truth about this is and I mean, it was very obvious last week against the colts, but I thought fairly obvious this week too. Dave the best run defense in the NFL right now. And it's not close. And that's wild to me. They did some good things defensively this off season. I mean, Devin Lloyd looks like he's gonna be a star in this league, foy side all the coon, great off season edition. I think that they're putting this thing together. And I think that we all saw trevon walker as a player who could maybe not make any headlines, but be the kind of what's that stuff, what's that guy who, you know, when there's like the water coming out of the tank on the infomercial he just slaps it up and stops it, you know? Flex seal. Yes, yep. Yeah, he could be flex seal, you know? And so I think that they've got this whole thing working right now. I think Austin Eckler had what four carries for 5 yards. Yesterday? Yeah. Pretty incredible. It's changed in here. And if you're the Chargers, you're bummed out. I'm still bullish on the Chargers. I think they'll be fine once they get their quarterback breathing properly. Again, but this was also something of a reminder that they're just not very good at linebacker position and they got run over. That's kind of how it went. I don't know. That's not a fatal flaw for any team in 2022, but it's a big flaw for this team. And it just sort of rears its ugly head every once in a while. I have one complaint about the Jaguar scary, and then I have one question about the Chargers that I want to ask you. Okay. One complaint about the Jaguars and maybe this is like phase two of the plan. Travis Etienne looks so explosive and I feel like he's a little underutilized. Yes or no. Yeah, I could sign on to that. I don't think it's hugely problematic. And look, he had some trouble catching the ball. When they lost week one, I don't know if that makes you think twice about it, or maybe just say, okay, well, this guy's got to kind of get used to the speed of the NFL game at this point.
Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"devin lloyd" Discussed on Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"I think Belichick again, this kind of goes in line with what I started with on this pod today. Belichick, everybody has been screaming, including you and I give the young guys a chance. Give the young guys a play the young guys. Well, look, if you've been screaming that for the last two years, then you can't complain about them, not drafting a linebacker or an edge. Because what they're doing is they're saying, we're betting on Mac Wilson, we're betting on camera grown, macro, so 2.2 seconds, if that, to bring up my groan when he was asked about drafting a linebacker. He said, look, McGraw is, we're looking at him as this year's draft pick. I agree with that. It's a reasonable way to look at it. Is it going to work out? I don't know. But they look at linebacker. They look at edge and they say, hey, look, we've got Jennings. We've got uche. We've got Perkins. We've invested in that position. It's either shit or get off the pot. Excuse my language with those guys. And so if you've wanted them to play the young guys, if you want to see what their prior drafts can actually produce, you're going to see that. Whether it's good or not, that's the deal. As far as the pick, I would have stayed there, I would have went with a cornerback, whether it was Elon or mcduffie, whoever they liked the most, I just value that position a heck of a lot more than I value offensive guard as we talked about earlier. So I would have I would have gone the whole stick and pick route. But again, I think we learned looking at this team. Belichick is putting his trust in the moves that have been made in the last year or two. And that's what's happening. And I agree with that, Nick. I agree with you. And I think that, and I am in favor of it. I mean, we could argue about like, all right, well, if they didn't do it in the past and all of a sudden, you know, well, I mean, now it's right. I mean, I want them to do it like three years ago. But anyways, the edge totally agree with you. Linebacker completely agree with you, like I like Mack Wilson. I think he's a starter if they unlock on my did a story on that. I've studied this film. Camera grown, I think, is a good athlete. If you wanted to underside speedy linebacker, camera grown as that guy. And I'm fine with that. But the juwan Bentley thing. They just should have let it play out longer. Hey, maybe was anybody gonna rush to sign you on Bentley? I mean, maybe the Raiders, I don't know, but you know, I let a play out and I already know I have guys and I can sign Jamie Collins back. If it doesn't work, if you want Bentley signs elsewhere and I don't get a linebacker in the draft, then I signed Jamie Collins back or Dante had to, I don't know, something like that, but Devin Lloyd, you plugged Devin Lloyd into this front 7 with what they have and Mack Wilson and what have you? I'm kind of excited about that. I agree. They could have waited on Bentley. At least I think they could have. And if you don't bring Bentley back, you can go find somebody that can replicate most of what Bentley does. I agree with you wholeheartedly with that. But we'll see. You know, maybe grown is the guy and raekwon McMillan is somebody who showed some flashes before he got hurt last year. So we'll see if those choir moves make sense. All right, let's go pick by pick here..
Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"devin lloyd" Discussed on Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"Absolutely. And I think any discussion on this draft, you know, you got to start with the trade down. So let's talk about that for a second. So they're at 21 overall. We know that they had an offer for a third and a fourth round pick. 94 and one 21. I was just trying to figure out what those picks, I think one of them turned into one 21 was Jack Jones. The cornerback. And then the other trade down. I'm trying to figure it out. Oh, so they got a 2023 third round pick and one 37 would be sappy. Bailey zappy. Okay. So on the clock, you're on the clock with the Patriots, and I went over this and if anybody's curious, I did, I did an alternate universe what I would have done on the clock if I was the Patriots with what was on the board. And including, do I trade down or not? Because I think that's the key first decision on the board. Cornerback Trent Duffy, who the chiefs traded up and picked in your spot. Quay walker, cornerback per year, elam, offensive tackle Tyler Smith, edged Jermaine Johnson, linebacker Devin Lloyd. Tough decision. I mean, I think, you know, going into the draft, we talked about mcduffie walker, elam, Johnson, we thought would be gone by Annapolis. Take them out of the equation because I don't think he's quite a scheme fit for the Patriots. He's more of a run up the field type of edge guy. And of course, Devin Lloyd, who we talked about a lot over the course of the draft season. And you're going down 29. You're going down 8, 8 spots. So, you know, the chances are none of those guys are going to be on the board if you come up and pick again at 29. Chances are they're all going to be gone. At the end of the day, I chose to pick and stick, I chose, I wanted Devin Lloyd. Nick, I did, but I thought the Patriots painted themselves probably from their own doing into a corner at linebacker by resigning juwan Bentley to a contract extension..
Strong Opinion Sports
"devin lloyd" Discussed on Strong Opinion Sports
"Oh my goodness. Good morning, good afternoon. Whatever it is for you, I hope you're having a fantastic day. My name is Zach Schumer. This is strong opinion sports episode 400 and 79. Welcome in. Really, truly hope you're doing well. Today, we are talking about the first round of the NFL Draft. Let's jump in. I want to share my thoughts about the first round of the NFL Draft, the stuff that I find interesting, the stuff that I like. Let's start here with the first overall pick in the NFL Draft. This is very noteworthy. You have to talk about the first overall pick. The Jaguars drafted javon walker out of Georgia. It's going to be interesting because the first two picks of the NFL Draft were both edge defenders. Basically pass rushers, javon walker, went number one overall, and then the Lions drafted 8 and Hutchinson, a defensive end number two overall. And a lot of people said that Aidan Hutchinson should have been the number one overall pick. And so I just think the storyline here is going to be interesting to follow as the years go on. Is who's going to be a better player? Trevon walker or Aiden Hutchinson, who becomes the better edge defender. As the years go on, they will constantly be compared. I think as they should be, and did the Jaguars get it right. I don't know, but I'm really curious as the years go on to find out. Aiden Hutchinson is a great player. It's a bit weird. He's not a, he's not miles Garrett. Miles Garret I think partially that's just to show how good miles Garrett is. I think miles Garrett, von Miller before him. Aidan Hutchinson has never going to be the best defensive end in the NFL. So for me, it was hard to think about him as a number and overall pick, but also he's not going to bust. I would be shocked if Aiden Hutchinson was 8 and Hudson was a bad NFL player and he certainly very good defensive end. He's got to be a good leader and a good in the locker room and he may not have the highest ceiling, but he also probably isn't a bust. So that's not a ringing endorsement, but I think with the lions did was a very good thing by drafting aid and Hudson. Let's talk about the Jaguars for a second first. So the Jaguar is not only drafted, javon walker number one overall. They traded back into the first round and drafted number 27 overall linebacker Devin Lloyd, it's a solid move. They just let miles Jack walk away. And so I think the Jaguars, they got two new starters on defense, javon walker, and Devin Lloyd. It's kind of a weird draft because there was no clear number one best player available. There was no Kyler Murray, miles Garrett, there was no player, they're like, that guy definitively should be number one. There was a lot of debate going on. And I go back to, I think it's going to be a really interesting 5 years from now who should have been the number one pick. Was it the right move? I think the Detroit Lions killed it. Not only did they get aid in Hutchinson number two overall, a local hero at a Michigan a defensive end a guy who, like I said, probably never going to be the best in the league at his position, but a guy who I think for the next ten years could be a staple and a really good player Pro Bowl caliber player in Detroit..
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"devin lloyd" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"And the saints hop up and get Chris olave at 11, which we did sort of the thought experiment during the mock draft series if they take a trail on Burks or Drake London or someone like that, that probably means they are ready to move on for Michael Thomas. Chris saleve seems like more of a compliment to Michael Thomas. Yeah, and that was speaking of player tweets. I mean, Michael Thomas applauded the initial saints trade with the eagles. And so maybe he perhaps he knew something that we didn't. All those Ohio State guys just talk to each other all the time, you know? Whether it was Chris O'Leary for Michael Thomas or Albert breer, you know, they all just, they all just gossip, you know? It's all hanging out and Albert's basement probably. Watching the draft in his rumpus room, perhaps. The Lions jump up to 12 to take Jameson Williams. I thought they, I thought this trade was really good for a couple of reasons. One, they didn't give up a ton to come up 20 spots. And on top of that, look, they want to sort of open up this passing game a little bit. If you want to see if Jared Goff is the guy or not, he probably isn't. But, you know, you want to give him a shot. Jared Goff had been in a highly schemed offense in LA. I think he was a little too conservative when he arrived in Detroit last year, but he sort of shook that off as the year went on. Well, now you got some big play weapons for him. Jameson Williams is one of them. Obviously they brought in DJ shark to go along with amanra saint Brown. That's a really good trio there and Jared Goff gets to show if he can once again establish himself as a franchise quarterback. Yeah, and to backtrack for a second, we totally botched the Chris olave pronunciation on our last show, but so did whoever announced the pick in the draft this year. Yeah, they said olave this year on TV. Like I did. But just letting everybody else. But so a couple of interesting things about the Lions pick. First of all, spent the whole combine hearing a lot of people rave about quasi, adolfo mensa, the Vikings, new general manager. This was a weird deal, right? The Vikings traded their first and second round picks, so 12 and 46 to the Lions for their first second and third. So 32 34 66. I mean, in a draft where it seems like the fall off was 16 or 17 in terms of talent. I think you gave up a lot and really didn't get a whole bunch in return. Yeah, it was a bit of a head scratcher, but everyone's bored is different if you thought the strength was, I don't know, 32 to 50, maybe it makes some sense. Maybe, yeah, maybe you feel like you need a couple more guys there, but the Vikings seem like, I mean, this is not a team that can just, you know, they're not like the chiefs where they can just hen peck around the edges here and just like pick up guys who fall to them. I mean, they need a lot of help on both sides of the ball. So I thought that was a little bit surprising, but jamison Williams to the lines. I mean, if I were Jameson Williams, probably wouldn't be that thrilled, but if I were Dan Campbell, I would be because this is such an organizational vote of confidence in you. Like they're treating you the way Brad Holmes is treating you the way that less need has treated Sean mcvay, which is pretty incredible. The commanders who had moved down from 11 to 16 end up taking John dotson out of Penn State and it's a nice pick. You get the sort of the speedy deep threat to go along with Terry mclaurin here. This to me was the sign that it was like, uh oh. There's only one left. If you want trail and burkes, you better make a move right now. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, datsun was like the music playing during your Oscar speech, you know? It was like oh boy. Interesting stylistic compliments, right? I mean, we talk about that a lot on the show, but Curtis Samuel, Terry mclaurin, and datsun, does that fit what Carson Wentz does best? I don't know, do they care that it's what Carson Wentz does best, you know? At this point, I mean, did they kind of view him as a one year solution to their problem anyway? I don't know. But I also didn't think that was their biggest need. I don't know, very curious night for the commanders, I would say. So far. Very curious off season for the commanders, one could see. Yeah. And then obviously trailing Burke's to the Titans at 18 with the pick they got in the AJ Brown trade. Whether you're buying a new car or used one, it's a big investment, which is why you should choose Pennzoil platinum. It helps extend the life of your engine and protect it up to 15 years or 500,000 miles, whichever comes first, guaranteed. That's because Pennsylvania base oil is made from natural gas in 99.5% free from engine clogging impurities. The proof is in the Pennzoil. 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Listen to out of the shadows as part of the microtubule podcast network available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's go to the top of the draft because that's usually important. The Jaguars do indeed go with travon walker here. Later in the first round, they traded back into get Devin Lloyd, the Utah linebacker, versatile guy. So a couple of really versatile defenders joining their nothing on offense though. We do know they address that offensive line to an extent in free agency, but yeah, I don't know. What's your feel on walker this way? I mean, this is, this feels like the riskiest first overall pick in quite a while here. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Would you say, okay, this is going to get clipped and taken out of context. So every four seconds, I'm going to say, don't clip this and take it out of context. In the middle of my sentences. But is this, is this the most potential potential only based? Number one overall picks since JaMarcus Russell. Because you're betting purely on potential with walker, the production wasn't there, you're hoping that what you bring him into can turn him around, turn him into a star. I'm looking at the list of number one overall picks. Trevor Lawrence, Joe burrow, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield miles Garrett Jared Goff, James Winston, Jade and Clowney. Eric Fisher, I think, is different. I've heard 2013 to 2022 comps for the draft. I don't really think that. I mean, I think 2013 was just a bad draft. Andrew Luck Cam Newton Sam Bradford Matt Stafford. Maybe Jake long. From Michigan, maybe Alex Smith, another guy that you'd have to use so correctly. Maybe Courtney Brown. Maybe this was like a Courtney Brown kind of pick, too. It's a little bit, look, you could say it's a little bit clownish as far as the lack of production, but Clowney was just such an off the charts, just physical specimen coming into the draft. It reminded me, at least the news cycle leading up to it, and maybe that's the only comparison you can make here. It reminded me a little bit of 2006 when the Texans had the first overall pick and for months, the conversation was, well, Reggie Bush, but maybe Vince Young and then all of a sudden three nights for the draft. It's, oh, it's Mario Williams. Okay. And then that ended up obviously being the very correct choice. It's a little like that, I guess, but Williams is so much more productive on the collegiate level and also just again in the clowny mold as far as the physical traits go. And walker was probably the best traits guy in this draft, but I don't even think he was at the level of those two guys. I will say this and I think the Devin Lloyd trade up sort of hammered this home as well. Whatever they're planning to do defensively, it's gonna be, you know, it's gonna be a little bit. Let's just say it's gonna be multiple. That's a really lazy way of putting it. They want guys who can do a lot of different things well is what you're looking at here. I do think Aiden Hutchinson in the end, I think is a wide 9 pass rusher. And that's what he's going to do with the next level. I don't think there's another way you can really use him. Ron walker obviously you can move around a little bit. I know it's kind of a, you know, it's like, well, he rushes on the inside and that's it. Oh, that's all right. You can brush them on the inside. You're fine with that. Get in third down movement inside. There you go. Yeah, I mean, if you had the chance to take Aaron Donald at number one overall in that draft, you might have done it, right? Because that was the that was the other draft that this reminded me of because that was the Khalil Mack Jade young Clowney, Aaron Donald draft, right? And so in Khalil Mack was a little bit like walker and that he kind of really got pushed up the board late and then I remember former boss Peter king actually advocating for him to go number one overall a couple of weeks before the draft and everyone was like, what? You know, like nobody was thinking about Khalil Mack at that point being that kind of guy. But it was a situation where the defensive coordinator that was inheriting him had to use him in the right way. And this, I think, will just forever be the biggest gamble in Trent balke's thought process here, right? Selfishly, you're gonna have to legitimize this pick, but so much of the pick success rests on the ability of a coach who doesn't share your brain, you know? And is he going to be able to use him the way that you're trying to get him used? And is it going to look the same when you're not playing in a defense that just set the record for the most players on one side of the ball being taken in the first round of the NFL Draft? The other storyline in every draft ever held quarterbacks. Number one overall pick in quarterbacks. That should really just go on every podcast outline. Just the one quarterback, just Kenny Pickett going to the sealers at 20, the Steelers don't have to jump up. They just sit back and have their choice of all the guys, and then everyone behind them said, we also don't want a quarterback. So the Steelers take Kenny Pickett guy, they're obviously very familiar with. Even though, I mean, are they going to play with a smaller football this year? Are they going to let them throw like a hockey puck around the field? I don't know how this works. His hands are just too small, Connor. They're going to let him. I actually took one, I took it out of my son's hands like a couple hours ago. We had these little baby footballs. These little rubber baby footballs that you get when you put a quarter into the machine at the grocery store. It's like, oh, they're just gonna look Kenny Pickett Kay with the baby football. Yeah. I also just point out, like, you have a, you have a very young child in the house. She's literally the floor, like choking hazards? Like Connor? Yeah. It was probably a bad idea to buy him like a gumball machine football, but you know, he's swallowed and eaten larger pieces of food, so I'm sure a football had passed in a few days. Fair enough, fair enough. You make it work. But yeah, so old baby hands picket, being the first quarterback off the board here. Here's my thought process on it. If any other team besides the Steelers took him, we would have been like, what on God's greener, especially in the northeast, in an outdoor stadium, we would be like, what a God's green earth is going on. But it's the Steelers. And Kenny Pickett will probably play there for ten years and he'll be pretty good. And that'll be that, you know? I mean, they're just a well run organization. And well run organizations can do with the Steelers did, which is ignore the decline of your quarterback for far too long, and then just sit there 20 and just be like, you know, whatever, whatever happens happens, we'll take canny picket if he's there, if nope will take somebody else and we'll make them good. So we touch on the jets here. Really nice night sauce Gardner, Garrett Wilson, who, if you're not gonna get deebo Samuel, it's kinda like Garrett Wilson, is your next best bet here if you're the jets. And then obviously they come back in the first round, get Jermaine Johnson. A guy who, I mean, look at a lot of people thought he was a top half of the first round lock and he ends up sort of sliding down. I do want to talk about the giant draft, which, you know, it was a little bit, you know, by the board, a little bit chalk here, but I mean, they end up landing two guys here and came on thibodeau and Evan Neal that you just feel really good about. Yeah, and I think what's interesting too is a player who I don't think the Giants would have taken a year ago, 5 years ago, ten years ago. I think that they've always been fairly conservative when it comes to players who let's just say like, you know, the Tom cawthon regime especially, like, right? There's that matrix of like if a player is ever mentioned as having like some sort of like an outlandish personality or, you know, is more expressive or there's the rumor that he doesn't love football or whatever. Like that player almost always traditionally got lopped off Tom Coughlin's board, right? Or by extension, Dave gettleman's board because that's how Dave gettleman spent a lot of his formative years. And so I think that this is a chance for them to finally. Since Jason Pierre Paul came and left, they have not had that complete package in terms of tools at the pass rusher position, right? They've kind of just had guys, right? And they had to overpay for people like Olivier Vernon to make up for that. But now they have pure tools like intense speed and bend and quickness and power and this is something that is very foreign to the Giants. Over the last 5 or ten years, let's say. Indeed, indeed, I want to make one real quick point about K mount thibodeau and then I want to hear your Evan Neal take because I know you're a huge Evan Neal guy, but one thing I should have brought it up during the mock draft show, one thing that kept on coming with thibodeaux throughout the draft process because I just keep on watching them and be like, you know, I don't think Hutchinson or walker are generational prospects by any stretch of the imagination, neither is thibodeau, but I just don't know why he's not in the conversation with those two other guys. And one of the things that kept on coming up was like, ah, you know, not a lot of ankle bend is kind of limited type of thing. Like, he played last season on a bum ankle. Doesn't that doesn't that count for anything? Doesn't let playing on a severely sprained ankle factor into your assessment of someone's ankle bend? Yeah, it's pure laziness. And it was cool. You know, I did a story inspired by obviously a great idea that you had for our draft preview issue. And I got to talk to a thibodaux pass rushing coach that he had that he worked with during the pre draft process. And he had these slow motion videos. And I guess a lot of people look cool in slow motion. But the things that thibodeau was able to do with his body, like they have those dummies that stick their hands out and mimic like an offensive tackle. And he was like, he was like, it was like a ripple. He was almost like liquid, getting under his arms. He just does it so fast and he's just so fluid and he's got this array of moves. And I just think he's a really great, cool, fun player. And I think he'll be, you know, as long as the market doesn't just shake the enjoyment in the life out of him. I think he's going to be, I think he's going to be a good addition. That defensive line looks okay now. I mean, you know, it doesn't look great. I mean, Leonard Williams is still not going to happen. It's still not a thing, but it looks okay now. It does. It does. And you love Evan Neal. Oh my God, yeah. I put him number one in my mock draft. And it was funny. I feel today an inspirational pre draft phone call from former boss Peter king, who called, it was very nice and called just to wish me a happy draft. And we were talking about the number one overall pick and what we thought might happen. And he said, Connor, Evan Neal's not going number one. He's like, he's like, you need to understand that. And I was like, no, I will not understand it. And I held out hope that he was going to go number one. It was like 30 seconds before the draft. And if I did not have to assist in some kind of calamitous parenting duties at that moment, I was at my computer tweeting Evan Neal number one. Here we go. I was ready for it to happen. I think he is just a badass natural left tackle. And now he gets to play on the right side, so he doesn't have to, you know, I think he'll come out strong. He's gonna have a really good first year. And you know, Trent balke, you know, just you're gonna see what you missed out on. All right, we've arrived at the miscellany of the show. The potpourri category. I'm just gonna, I have three takes, I'm just gonna throw out and you can make them what you will. You can also throw out your own takes. Maybe we just saw a yell at the same time and see how it comes out. But I really, I love what the use in Texans are doing. I'm totally on the same wavelength of everything going on there right now. Obviously, but I love the Derek stingley pick. And again, I don't wanna like, I know we played two seasons after his freshman year. I don't know if he really put forth the kind of full force effort the last two seasons that maybe you wanted to see out of him. But I think there's a really likely scenario that Derek stingley ends up being the most valuable player out of this draft class. And there was all this talk about the top ten. Which was just nuts to me. So I think taking him third overall was just a tremendous and then kenyon green is another guy who was kind of being mocked outside the top 25 and that's sort of stuff, but if you want like a tone setting guard, maybe they play him a tackle, but you know, probably a tone setting guard here for a team that, you know, if you already have 17 running backs on your depth chart, the Kenyan green is the guy you get. So I love those two picks and obviously the Texans also picked up some draft capital moving down from 13 to 15 before they took green there and yeah, big night for Nick kasaria. Yeah, I would say if there's any if there's any person that you think can get the most out of a prospect who may have lost his way. It is text and super character coach Jack easterby. But no comment on that. But yeah, no, I thought it was a good night. Does this qualify, by the way? I said if the Texans got anyone that could directly help, love you Smith, run his defense, I would have to, I would have to fill I would have to buy, well, I guess the Texans had to buy me the pool, and then I had to float around in vanilla pudding. What did I say? Vanilla pudding was the only real solid thing we settled on with that. We're gonna have to get some sort of behind the scenes video of Nick asaro being like, no, no, no, we gotta take, we gotta take Kenneth walker here. We need another running back and love you Smith banging the table and saying, no, I need Derek stingley. That's really the only way you do it. And plus we said we do it same night as well, which, you know, just logistically, it was gonna be difficult to pull off or confirm that we had to pull it off. Oh, well. I think I have a little vanilla pudding upstairs, but you know, enough to fill a pool, question mark? You can eat that vanilla pudding in that would be a good compromise right there. Close enough, yeah. Kobe dean falls out of the first round, a little bit surprising, you know, the packers, packers do not take a receiver. I don't think he necessarily blame them based on based on the board, but I was still surprised that quay walker, I know a lot of people expected it. I was surprised coy walker went and Nico badine didn't, as our Albert breer reported the other day, there is some medical stuff going on with dean, that sort of added up that maybe scared people off,.
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"His future in Pittsburgh, even though he hates to talk about it. If they don't start to turn this around here a little bit, I don't know how much longer he lasts now. The Steelers don't fire coaches though. That's their whole thing. They don't. I don't know if they fire him, but he might. Mutually. It's candy pick. Pittsburgh kid plays stays in Pittsburgh, makes a lot of sense. Yeah. All right, can he pick it? All right, here we are. This is exactly how I see this playing out. Like exactly. Yeah. Yeah, none of the fun name left. None of the fun names are left. What do you do if your Bill Belichick, there is a team here? We've only got one team calling. It's a Buccaneers. I still would take the trade down, right? Like I'd still do it, just to get the pick because none of these guys here are 21 make much sense. I don't know where you're going to go with this. I'm the biggest Andrew booth junior fan there is. I just don't love it. Here at this point in the draft would be some of the things that scheme fit just, I don't know, I don't think when I say I don't love it, I mean, I don't think they will do it, right? I don't think Andrew's look is their guy. Clemson, 15 games of tape, injuries. I just don't think he's their guy. At this point, probably the guys I would think that they were a target would be one of three guys. Dax hill obviously from Michigan, Kyler Gordon from Utah. And maybe quay walker from Georgia at this point. Well, so somebody did point out, we actually didn't take them. Jermaine Johnson's still here. That's interesting how he made it here without taking him, right? Yeah. I guess the eagles try to think, where do we miss? I think maybe the eagles instead of Devin Lloyd could have potentially taken Jermaine Johnson. But it's amazing how, let's say we 18 the eagles day Jermaine Johnson at Devin Lloyd, that's how easy it is for one of these guys to fall, right? Like that's how easy it is to highlight your main jobs in the fall. I think he's a great fit. No, we should take him with the Chargers at 7. That's what it was. Yeah, they traded it out, right? Yeah. So maybe the Chargers still get them. The Chargers at what 23. We know the packers are probably going to go receiver here. What the Patriots probably take him at this point though? I would think the Patriots would take him if we're going to just go off of this is what happened and we have to take the best player for the Patriots here. Jermaine Johnson, I think probably the best run defender in the entire draft is from a fundamental standpoint. Since the edge sees it very well, really, really good run defender in every sense of the word. He doesn't have the cornering ability or like the turn the edge type of pass rush that people covet in the top ten. So I could see him falling into the teens for that reason, right? I don't think he's as fluid as loose as bursty and bendy of an edge rusher as what teams would prefer higher on in the draft. I never would imagine a situation where Jermaine Johnson ends up here. I think maybe we botched a pick here or two to get him here. But based off the way this is gone, we have to take Jermaine Johnson. I would say or trade out. I saw the trade out as a possibility here and they could view it that way too. So it would be a first, a third picture third. They might rather do that..
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"Out of this draft. Three to four year one immediate playmakers. Did we get three to four potential rookie playmakers? I think we might have. I think we definitely got two. I think mate and Watson will contribute. I'm hired. I don't know what to watch and I don't know. I could see them burying him behind aglar. I think the two we got. I think he's going to be better than Aguilar real soon. Yeah. I think strange is the other one. Because he's going to be a starter. Yeah. He'll be a starter. I still think that ziya McCollum will have a role, maybe later on in the year. Maybe that's somebody. I'm talking Mac Jones Christian Barbara. Stephenson level. Yeah. And those guys did we get. I don't know if this draft hits that nail as hard as they did last year, right? I think that this one's a little bit more developmental than what they had last year. It's not what they need. No, it's not. But I think what we go back to. And look, I keep on saying it. I don't care. I'll keep on saying it. Whenever you run these simulations, do it yourself. Don't even use PFF or draft network or whatever. Just run through the draft yourself and try to see what you think teams would take. And what do you think teams would do? You're going to find that more times than not, the guys that everybody's swooning over for the Patriots and dreaming about for the patrons at 21. Just don't make it to 21. Like Jameson Williams, Jordan Davis, the top three corners, Devin Lloyd, Trayvon walker, like these guys just don't make it to the 21st pick. And when they sit there, like we sat there the last two mock drafts that we've done here on pat speed, we've been in the same spot both times that all of those tier, I would call those guys like tier one prospects, right? Usually you have a board that there's like 17 to 18 first round.
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"Haskins at the end would have been interesting. Yeah. That's the one that we just missed them. Nate landman. Nate lemon. Special teams contributor right away, east to west linebacker, another very instinctual player multiyear captain. He's on the smaller side. I don't think he's necessarily going to be a defensive player year one. You kind of hope he grows into that, but Nate lamb and screams the kind of guy who's going to come in and contribute on special teams for ten years. He kind of reminds me in 8 Abner. I think he maybe has some more versatility. I think he maybe could develop a role as like a third down coverage linebacker is going to give you like 20% of snaps on defense within three or four years. But he's going to come in and contribute on special teams for a long time. And he's going to be high character guy in the locker room and all of that. That's what they want. They want those guys in the 6 round who make sense. So that feels like a very them pick. The way that I see it at linebacker and math is an age, right? He's an outside linebacker on the line of scrimmage player. With off ball linebacker, all of us are clamoring for McGraw and McMillan and all these guys that they already have in the building to get a chance to play. So to throw another developmental third round linebacker pick like a Troy Anderson or chanting tyndall, I saw in the chat or one of those guys, I mean, isn't that just, are we just redoing it, right? And I understand that more bodies more potential darts at the board is not necessarily a bad thing, but eventually they actually have to play some of these guys and, you know, actually do something with them, right? So taking all these guys and continue to take all these guys, I just don't see it. If they go in the first round and Devin Lloyd is on the board or they're sold on to Kobe dean or they feel really, really good about somebody like that that's going to be they're going to draft him. He's going to be thought they Hightower, right? He's going to be an absolute game changer for them. It changes the deck. That's totally different. By taking another one of these guys that maybe is just going to kind of be in that mix with Macron and everybody else. I mean, I just don't really seem to see the point. That's where I'm at with it. I think we've talked about this in terms of the to do list in terms of the needs. They certainly added some needs and soft season guard became a need. I think corner is more the need now than it was coming into things. The one position I think they've done a pretty good job of addressing this linebacker between bringing in Mac Wilson, bringing back to one Bentley, some of the internal additions they'll have McRae, McMillan. I think linebacker maybe all right. I really do. If they don't go linebacker coming into this, right? I didn't think they're bringing Bentley back. Obviously, Mac Wilson wasn't on the radar. Take those two out. All right, I forgot the background. Right..
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"That one could go, I think Gardner is going to be off the board, but they also went corner top ten last year too. Right. They have D.C. horn coming back. They re signed Dante Jackson so that right. I don't know if they'll go over there, but maybe the simulator is just thinking best player available. Right. Although Gardner, I think is a top ten pick. So is Stanley. I have stingley ranked ahead of Gardner. Charles cross falls a little bit. That's an interesting point. I would be more inclined to think that Panthers would go Charles cross with their pick over. I would too. This is an interesting one. Because there you go. All right, Trayvon walker, Malik Willis to Washington. That's kind of feels possible, I guess. Terrific Duffy. So here's the thing. The way this board went and it could go a number of ways. But the way this board went. Early run on corners. Not a great year to meet a corner for me this way. Trent mcduffie going very high. Carl Loftus falls a little bit, and I know you've been big on that. Devin Lloyd, Jordan Jordan Davis eagles. That's my pick. I think he goes to the eagles. We got James. This kills the Patriots right here. These are four. This was a murder boy. We just said that we weren't necessarily going to trade down, but now we might have to trade down because the way that this went was exactly the Patriots worst nightmare, right? These are realistic. We're going to discuss for the 21st pick. Yeah, this is a doomsday. Of course, it's the very first mock draft that we do. And then we have a doomsday scenario. Good straight off the bat. Good challenge. I think that let's talk about it though, because you just mentioned it. Jameson Williams, Trevor penning booth alaba. I think if they come away with it and then Jordan Davis was at 15, right? So he gave us one of those eagles picks. I think 16, 15, yeah. Yeah, so all of our and Garrett Wilson. So this is basically everybody that the Patriots might want to draft just went right off the board right before we could get to this pick. This is where you look at it. In a Devon, Lloyd went 14 is another one a lot of people. Right. So this is where I sit back and I look at it and I say, if this is the way that it looks, they got a trade down. They absolutely have to trade down because the drop off now that we're at is substantial where the guy that they're going to get when they trade down, I don't think is going to be that much worse. Now the problem that you have is that if you trade down too far, then for instance, if we go to the corner, so do we want to look at the best on the board, just laid out? Sure. But I think I would much rather draft him later. Right. Lindbergh's interesting one. I wonder if they would take a job over here and see it as value pick. No, I think it's still too high because he's going to be out for the whole year. The guy that I think is interesting here, if they're going to go that position, obviously, elam, we'll talk about too. I do like Jermaine Johnson from Florida state for them a lot..
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"All right. So fast, maybe he can set the edge. He's not setting the edge either. So he's a very scheme scheme specific player. And that scheme's not here. Unless they're going to totally overhaul the defense. And who knows? Maybe what JC Jackson leaving they do decide to become that zone team. If Jay-Z Jackson leaves, I think it becomes a slightly more realistic conversation. He's also going to test so well today. One of those teams that he has a fit for will trade up and get him. I'm not counting on him on the board at 21. So mamola is 6 feet two 23. So basically the exact same size as nicobi dean. Dean actually has got some weight on him. I think I'm sure that Milano now that he's in an NFL is trying to think conditioning program is probably playing closer to two 25 two 30. So maybe they're about the same exact size. The Patriots were rumored to have some interest in Milano a couple years ago. I don't know how real that rumor was, but I remember that being floated out there when Milana was supposed to become a free age and they ended up resigning in an upping with buffalo. So he never hit free agency. But yeah, you're right. If they're going to be a zone defense and they need linebackers that can be that sort of space guy and be a guy that can drop into coverage and do all those sort of things. Then they're going to have to be a little bit faster there and kind of go a little bit different direction. So maybe somebody like a nicobi dean could be an act conversation. Next up here on the linebackers, Devin Lloyd, who I watched a little bit more of his tape. I'm a little bit more into it now that I've seen some more games out of his still have concerns about the way he takes on blocks. Still think that he's best in that Fred Warner role in that Seattle style cover three type system. But he's going to be, he should be a great tester. And he probably will be long gone by the time the Patriots pick at 21. Yeah, and this goes back to what we said before again, even if he's.
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"We're the blind spots are for this team. In terms of the draft and player development, jamison Williams sits right in that blind spot. So it's such a tremendous ask for them to take him and get it to work because it's everything that that's been elusive to them for the last 5 or 6 years or maybe longer. Yeah, I feel like that's why I've gravitated towards the guy like a lava if they're going to go first round because he's the type of technician that usually succeeds here. Right. I'm more on day two for that reason too. You know, I think there are other names that obviously we can throw out there and we'll probably I was like, you know, obviously repeating definitely will. The patrons will end up taking Drake London or something like that just to torture me. Oh, you love Drake London. Oh my gosh. Big Drake London guy. The NFL mock draft database. He's not a consensus first round pick. Good. Because here's the biggest problem with Drake London, okay? He's 6 foot 5, 210 pounds. The guy's a green bean, right? He's not Mike Evans. Everybody wants to cop him in Mike Evans. Mike Evans was 6 5, 230 pounds, right? Drake London is not that size. He's much skinnier. He's much thinner than a guy like Mike Evans. He doesn't have the play strength of a guy like Mike Evans. Oh God, foot speed, not there. Route running ability, good for a 6 foot 5 receiver. What does that mean? That means bad, right? Saying a guy who runs good rats for 6 foot 5 is just admitting that the guy's a bad route runner. That's the type of guy that they like because he's big, he can block, he can go up and get the ball and they'll draft him and he will be Nikhil Harry again, right? Like it's just the same thing. Right. If he runs in the four fours and I'll change my mind, but he's not going to. He's going to run mid four 5s. I'm sure of it. And a lot of people that I respect, a lot of really big draft experts, Todd mcshay, Dan brugler from the athletic, you know, a lot of these guys have Drake London very, very high on their boards. So I'm definitely in the breaking from the pack this year between trade London, Devin Lloyd. You just hate to pack 12, clearly. You're just still bitter at the pack 12 for you. It's in the hill thing, right? The thing that I always come back to with Devin Lloyd is I think what happens with guys like Devin Lloyd is that people type in Devon Lloyd's name on YouTube, they pull up Devon Lloyd highlight best linebacker in the nation and they watch 5 minutes of Devin Lloyd wrecking shop on a highlight reel, right? But when you actually go and you study Devin Lloyd's tape and you break down him play by play, he's very, very raw from off the ball. He doesn't understand how to take on contact. He doesn't click into blocking schemes very quickly. He's just a raw processor from off the line of scrimmage and quite frankly, just didn't look very interested in taking on very many blocks. So yeah, I can post a bunch of highlights of Devin Lloyd where he's unblocked and he's just allowed to just trigger to the football and he's a ridiculous missile and just taking guys out, but the second that.
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"You've got a big guy who doesn't play big, even though Nikhil has the frame. He just doesn't play at that size. Here's the crap out of me for the Patriots trail on Burke scares the crap out of me for the Patriots. Love them. Love birx as a prospect. I think he's gonna be a good player someplace else. So let me ask you this. If olave is not there and Jameson Williams is not there, do you now skip do you now bypass the position? I think a wider 21 at that point at 21. The other guy that I would really consider at 21. So there's really four guys in my mind right now, but the Patriots were to draft tomorrow that I would say, if you think that one of these guys at 21, I'm good. And that is trend Davis, the defense tackles from Georgia. Andrew junior, the corner, the Clemson, Chris olave, and Devin Lloyd. Those four guys, I think are players that if they take any of those four players at 21, I think they're a great picks, right? Home run picks. Anybody else they take in 21? I'm trading after the pick. So that's it. That's the best value you're going to get is those guys. You're not taking your trading back in stock. The way I view it is that everybody else that they could get at that spot. If it's not one of those four guys, I'm assuming all the other consensus guys are gone to Kobe dean, all those types of players. If you're not going to get one of those four guys at 21, then you're getting into a tier of players that are all eventual NFL starters, but not instant stars, right? Not guys that you're drafting to be instant contributions to your football team. If you're going to get into that muddied area there of developmental two to three years starter type players that have high upside, then there's really no difference at that point of taking them at 21 versus taking them at 33 or 34 or whatever the case may be. So I'd much rather trading back and having more bite that Apple. Give me two second rock picks at that point and maybe a third or fourth to throw in there to try to get another one of these guys and just be stuck with Trevor penning the tackle from northern Iowa or someone like that. Kyler Gordon, you make Shay took in his mock for the Patriots. I don't really see a difference, honestly, on day between a guy like Kyler Gordon and a guy like keir elam from Florida. I think you can carry on 15 picks later. So what's the point in taking Kyle Gordon at 21? No, I mean, it makes sense, but obviously there's, you know, there's nothing that drives fans more crazy than watching people trading out of spots. And they can't get one of those premiums. I know. But no matter what Evan, you know how this goes, it gets to 21 and there's a bunch of Burke's packers out there and he's still out there and everybody's freaking out. Take him..
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"He is a hard hitting player, but for the most part he's a finesse guy. He is not somebody that is going to take out the trash as Dante Hightower used to say and do the dirty work and take on blocks. He is an athlete that wants to be free to roam and free to make contact and be a heat seeking missile. And I think a lot of times when you look at that, you say, oh, well, that's exactly what they need. It is if they have a true mic that can be the guy that's going to be the sledgehammer. If they can have Devin Lloyd B, the weak side back or who is the chaser, then they can have a guy like that, but they still need that mic player. So when I look at it, I say, okay, I think quay walker, I think Christian Harris, for example, from Alabama. I think Chad Momo from Wyoming, those guys to me are not that much worse than Devin Lloyd, is the prospect compared to, let's say, Chris a lave to a sky more George pickens, those types of players. That to me is a more substantial drop off, which is why you think from a lava from a lava down to pickens is a substantial drop. I think from a lava to the guys that they could get with their second round pick at wide receiver. We're talking about a significant drop. The other thing that I would point out is the two Alabama guys are both coming off ACLs and not only am I concerned about the fact that they could re injure themselves at the NFL level because once you blow a knee out, it's very, very easy to re injure your ACL. Even the other one could go, right? Because you're overcompensating on the other leg. So re injury is a major concern. The other thing that I would say is a major concern is you're talking about a guy like Jameson Williams or John meche, maybe getting on the field again at full speed in August, September, maybe October of next year. So as much as I love the familiarity for a guy like John metchie with Mac Jones, I would be concerned about the fact that that player is basically lost for his rookie season because we know how the Patriots operate. We saw it with Nikhil Harry. We're talking about projecting that guy. And at the top of the draft this year for the Patriots, I don't think that they have the I don't think they have the flexibility.
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"And that's something that would concern me a little bit about him because he his body type, the way that he plays the game. The Patriots would try to turn him into an X I don't know if the Patriots would move him inside or play him off the line. Which is probably what they need to do. Right. So I think that he's somebody that I'm a little bit wary of just because of the press coverage reps that I saw. Yeah, and look, I think they could use a guy like that. I just don't, if that's the role you're gonna fill, you're talking like that Z, right? Right. Go get one down in the third round at that point, right? At that point, you don't need to use a first round pick. So wide receivers kind of a weak position in terms of patriots needs at the senior bowl, but pretty much every linebacker that's worth talking about, especially inside linebackers there. I'll give you a couple. Devin Lloyd's going to be there. Chad mama from Wyoming is the guy I really like quay walker, maybe my draft crush on the defensive side of the ball. Did you watch Troy Anderson from Montana state? I haven't yet. But I did watch a little bit of quay walker just watching. Obviously, the Kobe dean today. And he's somebody a title is he gonna be there too. The other Georgia linebacker, I think both of those guys are Kindle changing. Yeah, yeah. Both of those guys, I think are interesting. They're a little bit bigger, obviously than the Kobe dean, but they do still move pretty. I mean, that Paul Georgia defense flew to the ball, right? It wasn't just nicobi dean. He was a heartbeat of that, but all those guys could fly to the football. So anybody from that door to defense on game with. So yeah, I really like walker, but watch Troy Anderson. He's kind of an unknown and I'll admit, I haven't seen a ton of them, but the people I trust with Dave said about him to me, he should be in the mix. And there we know the Patriots aren't afraid to go with the small school guy, right? Look at Kyle duggar and how that worked out. And that's kind of where I'll close this on names people should know. Beavers is going to be there too, right? From Cincinnati. He's an interesting one at linebacker also. I've heard some good things about him. I think he's the player that they'll be interested in. Yeah. Darren Bieber's yep. Yeah. And there's some good corners there too, correct? So yeah, yeah, so there are. So I kind of on that note, one of my favorite things about senior bowl is you kind of you see these guys from the smaller schools and how do they do against power 5 competition? So I'll start I circle those guys who are the smaller school guys who I really want to see what they can do. The first guy circles, he's actually the first guy circled on this entire roster, believe it or not. Tariq woolen Tariq woolen from UTS a University of Texas, San Antonio. Marcus Davenport. Yeah. So they were really good this year. They were.
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"15. They are not his look. He's borderline 21 now, and that dude is going to be a freak at the combine, all right? He's not getting the 21. Enough with the Kobe dean. Great player, but it's not happening. He was awesome to watch today. I watched his tape today. And it was loved it. Electric, I mean, the guy is just not only, I think he's hits harder and is more explosive into engagements than he gets credit for because of his size. Length is going to be a problem for him because he's not going to be able to have the arm length to really lock out and impress guys off of him. But when he comes downhill to meet a polar in the hole, because he's so explosive and he gets, you know, he's so quick, he's so fast and gets so much momentum behind his pads. He hits a lot harder than two 20. You know, you can get off the tape that it pops. The guy that I was really just. He's going to be he's going to be the number. I think I know where you're going with this. I'm going to say Kobe dean probably by the time we get to the draft is the number one linebacker because Devin Lloyd, who is going to be at the senior bowl and this transitions us into some of these senior bowl guys. I was super disappointed, Alex, I'm not going to lie. He's the consensus linebacker one for a lot of people. I think that there's a lot of flashes and instances where you see some really good explosiveness. I thought he was better in coverage than I was expecting, but still not dominant in that phase. But the biggest thing that concerned me the most was his play against the run twofold. One play recognition, reading out polars, reading out blocking schemes, still a work in progress from off the ball. You can tell that processing is something that he's not fully there with yet or even close to. The second thing, when I see a linebacker of that size, what he's like two 32 35, two 40, right? He's a little bit bigger than dean, which is why a lot of people have him ahead of dean on.
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"They do have that confidence and experience winning experience against But, uh you know, they've got to replace, you know the tight end that they lost to the Falcons, but it certainly didn't bother him last week, so and again, it's not like, you know, Forget that it's northern Iowa that Iowa State opened up against they opened up against an FCS Po, where I will stand up against the Big 10 conference rival and I think that that is worth a little something in online as well. Let's go rapid fire on some games. Just when you're taking, you can touch on him for a minute each. Utah BYU, Utah has won a ton of narrow there. Kyle Winningham. Of course, going up against his album model continues to pound BYU, Jaren Hall and company coming into Vegas holding on beating Arizona. They had four sacks only gave up one, which was good. How about Keene and Peale? I had 17 tackles for BYU. 10 solo tackles. Algeria rushed for 94, a touchdown power who had eight receptions. 1 26 and two touchdowns and haul through for 1 98 2 touchdowns. No pics rushed for another 36 yards for Utah. It was the Charlie Brewer. You're coming over from Baylor. And, uh, you know, Cameron reason got in there as well rising, I should say, And then a couple of tight ends. Kincaid had a big game and Cunth solid as well. Cudi they had, you know, two solid tight ends that Charlie Brew was able to find all day 42 17. They beat Weaver State. They did allow a kickoff return. By Weaver State Wildcats something that they'll work on. And Devin Lloyd became the, uh, Pac 12 Player of the Week on Tuesday, 12 tackles and a sack in that win over Weaver State. So Utah BYU line up to seven now from Provo, Where are you on this one? I haven't played it. Not sure if I will, but I'd be inclined to look at the Utah in this game. I think that over the last five paid years, Utah has become the superior program to BYU, which had a long history of being the dominant program within the state of Utah, Talking about BYU, Utah, Utah state, BYU had been had been the lead program there by quite a bit. I think Utah. Not only has catched has caught up to them they've They've surpassed them. I like the Utah quarterback situation versus that of BYU. And I like Utah as a solid defensive team. Maybe a little bit better than BYU. I think BYU struggled a little bit more with Arizona. Perhaps they should have. I suppose you could use the same Well, why you was looking ahead to its game with Utah because of that rivalry, But I'm not so sure that That that would have affected their play against Arizona. I'm not Hold on Arizona this year. I think they're they're a candidate for the bottom of the Pac 12 South. All right, so real quick. Anthony Brown was fortunate that Oregon was able to get a turnover late and beat the Bulldogs. Fresno State coming back from 21 6 down very solid effort by the Bulldogs had arts in Stadium, Oregon. Now traveling to Columbus CJ Stranded company You know they trailed Minnesota in the second half as well. And you know some big defensive players there, including fumble return for a touchdown. Stroud finished up to 94 4 touchdowns. One pick Mayan. Williams had a big game nine carry 125 in a touchdown and overshadowed Master Teague when they get the ball six times. But when you have crystal lobby and Garrett Wilson That's a pretty solid 12 combo. Those guys, nine receptions, nearly 200 yards and three touchdowns, and they have record to the tight and God always be leery of him. Mitchell let him with 10 tackles. Who do you like? As far as the points Would you take Oregon and 14.5? Or do you want to lay that with Ohio State? I'm not sold on Anthony Brown. I mean, he wasn't bad in the game, but he wasn't Grady rushed for 56 yards 16 carries to get them to touch down on the ground. He threw for a touchdown as well as well as 1 72, but I don't know if he's a guy that's going to be able to stand in the pocket and beat Ohio State on the road. There's something that just tells me he's going to be under duress, and he's going to turn the ball over. Yeah, You know, I had Ohio's She had Minnesota last week, and I look good in the first half, and there was some controversy in the latter part of the game. So I guess maybe push who has the right result because it certainly looked. If they had played another quarter. Ohio State would have extended that lead. But of course, Minnesota suffered a couple of key injuries in that game, especially the season ending to Abraham, the running back. It was so much a part of that offence, but I was impressed with sprout shaky in the first half his first game on the road. Uh Big Stadium Conference foe. Surely made some halftime adjustments did the Buckeyes and they were clearly the dominant team in the second half and again that was on the road, which is something that you know they didn't have to face last year. And, of course he was not the quarterback last year is that quarterback is now going to be there for the For the Bears for quite some time, one would think nonetheless, uh, I don't want to lay points with Ohio State, but I'm not so sure Oregon is capable of covering this number because again you mentioned they played at home. They beat a Fresno State team that looked good the the week before when they won at 45. Nothing game I think was against UConn had ended up, ultimately causing natural to retire friends you can coach but, uh, now they're going on the road for the first time, and it's a difficult place to play. The numbers for me say that Oregon is worth taking. But the matchup suggest that I'm going to stay on the sidelines. Alright Pittsburgh and Tennessee. This is a big one for Brad powers he liked. Pit. I think they were underdogs in this game initially. Now they're up to a three point favorite. So BP movie and a half in some places, Yes, and that's key. Once you get over that three point that they're telling you, they're getting a lot of money on the Panthers. Uh, look, Narduzzi is not the Uh, the best coach. He's a good solid defense coordinator for years, and his teams you know, are generally very physical. Even at Pittsburgh. Kenny Pickett is still there. The Jersey kid comes off the nice when Pittsburgh so you know they they actually turned the ball over twice. Only got it back once last week. So, uh, you know, it's it's a tune up game there in Tennessee. You know, against bowling Green. They did what they needed to do Now, if Jill Milton struggles in this game, I think Hendon Hooker gets in. I mean, he's there. You have two quarterbacks. You might as well use them and I know Josh Heupel. He's somebody that will not Just sit back. If somebody struggling, they've got players. They've got high end until them in pretty good receivers. Evans and small in the backfield last week for Tennessee, combined for 2, 17 and a couple scores..