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Miami Dolphins (Phinsider Radio)  Exploring the potential of DeVante Parker and the rest of Miamis receiving core in 2020

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Miami Dolphins (Phinsider Radio) Exploring the potential of DeVante Parker and the rest of Miamis receiving core in 2020

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And you know this is something I don't know if people who podcast really are annoyed about yet, but I think a wide receiving group that the Miami Dolphins have is a really interesting bunch in terms of the ceiling is so high, but the floor is also so and you're tweeting about it recently so. So I thought it'd be a good time to have you come on before we jump into this. Really I say wide receiver hype with the concern sprinkled in. Be sure to hit that. Subscribe Button. Give us a review. Leave the that five star review it helps us. Oh, so much house, your little quiet before we get it I. WanNa make sure you're alive how you doing. Yum Love I'm just listening to you to talk in itself a wonderful thing I'm glad you're not. Is Is it soothing to your ears, not really, but now you. Can you say quarterback once? Can you get a start? Laws Foot quarterback. Almost? Man. Pronounced quarterback over their pro football, but what quarterback? We're happy to pass on. We're going to continue to talk about wide receivers like we have all season long and Hopefully we have football in the later because It's getting a little bit repetitive around here. Yet and that too man I. Mean you're you're off doing big things mask engineer. Excuse me up here. Is there anything you WANNA? Plug before we dive in to get that out of your system, instead of know sprinkling it in every three seconds talk taking their forty five minutes. Let's go ahead and tell us. Oslo spring loaded for sure pro bono work, dot com, as you all know previously me, and how it's in were the three Co host tariff inside a radio and Jake has graciously taken our spot, and it's taken this podcast new heights without. S- but you. What was that? Is this Clemson you? It has nothing to do with performance. You are taller pretty. anyways I haven't pro football dot com I am on the site with a bunch of other guys and houses. 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The great thing about Matt is we know there's a you know a banner on his bathroom or bedroom wall that not only has that entire plug, but it has his follower follower count that he changes everyday as he's listening these. Little. I count my followers into your trump's. I got nothing to say that. Great! Florida hasn't amazing. I think even plug me in there, so thank you talk about professional talk about. Professional. But Gentlemen. I think it's safe to say. A wide receiver definitely isn't a weakness for the Miami Dolphins. Because when you look at them when they win the draft. When they went into free agency, they could have done so many different things But when the dust finally settled, and the dolphins really did nothing I wide receiver. Nobody was upset. You know nobody was really you know. This was something that needed to be addressed. But I don't think I'd necessarily call it a strength if that kind of is, it's it's a weird situation to be in and when you kind of look this group Before I'm going to preface this by saying all these are possibilities. It's not what I think's going to happen and we'll get into these by each person, but after the season Preston Williams Ellen hearns keen grant. Those guys can be cut for just about nothing, so the sense here is that this group you know they underperforming could look completely completely different, actually outside of Devante Parker and something I. Want to start with you guys is is I really understand what this group is doing i? Think we need to start about why you know the how comes from the why and the dolphins threw the ball? Had the second highest pass percentage, and then fell throwing the ball sixty six percent of the time Falcons were right beneath them. At sixty four percent and ravens were the lowest at forty four percent, only team to run the ball more than fifty percent of the time and gentlemen as we look at this twenty twenty team I think we should start there. The hope is I mean I think I remember? There are a bunch of games or caitlyn still got plenty carries, but the hope is that the dolphins aren't going to be from behind to the extent where they have to completely abandon the run. That's where that's number really gets skewed. Is that kind of safe degree on here that the performance really starts with them, trailing by fourteen right out of the gates, which seemed to happen more often than not and twenty nineteen. Absolutely play a huge factor and you know it wasn't easy to run the football that terrible offensive line one thing I want to jump into real quick before we even get into any of this and I know math you can touch on a bit, but the dolphins apparently had interested in a wide receiver, and they were targeting him in the first round, Brandon Guy and he went to the San Francisco Forty niners. He was on the dolphins radar, according to pro football network both Nada. End Tony Pauline can talk a little bit about that, but I mean that says a lot to me about how not only they viewed a euch, and then how they view this wide receiver core, because eventually they're going to I still believe next season that draft class is going to be all the skill positions whether they get a running back wide receiver. You know they're just going to build the offense like crazy, but cannot tell us a little bit about the dolphins interest in I, you can how close they truly were to making that a reality. Yes, so We reported out a pro football. No. Clancy, I'd give him props for that. Simon clancy at three yards per carry was one of the first ones zone on twitter to say this. The Dolphins Targeting Brandon with their twenty six overall pick in the first round of the two thousand twenty drafts and I had saw that on twitter, and said Oh. That's as interesting because I had not heard that at the time I had heard they were looking really hard at Caesar Louise. They were also looking at. At Isaiah Wilson later around one there are also looking at de'andre swift as well who I know, they were targeting the things kind of just got out of order with their selection of Noah beginning and the cornerback unexpected cornerback run that part of the rounds, but going back to brandon iu right so I was able to confirm with a separate source, actually the same guy who gave me the tip on Brian. Floor is being. They met coach. And, he said yes, it's true. The dolphins weren't targeting Brandon. Because that's very interesting, and that would have been very interesting for us. Over football network DOT COM to be as during the NFL draft, we had a live blog going and part of our live coverage, because we were supposed to have the party in Vegas the draft party in Vegas with Max, Crosby of the raiders and press Wayne's dolphins. Who You all and obviously? They did they agreed to do video conferencing with us during the draft as their teams made their selections, so we have precedents for all through the dolphins picks so had that happen. That would have been a very interesting reaction from him. To see what that would have been like, but that never came that opportunity for the dolphins to draft a you. Because the forty niners jumped up from the end of the round to get ahead of the dolphins at twenty, five and selection, so for me, that's very interesting and very telling, because it shows that the dolphins are not totally sold on the wide receiver group which they should not be. Because this wide receiver group is a huge huge boomer bust factor, and there's a lot of hope there's a lot of if's in there I mean when you look at Devante Parker press, Williams and I know we'll get into this in just a little bit and really break down their game and Albert. Wilson those guys have huge. They have a lot of hope and a lot of promise, but none of them have really put it all together yet for a full season so. We'll get to that a little bit, but yes. I thought that was very telling and very interested in dolphins. We're looking at wide receiver there and every twenty twenty one. That's coming right now. has a dolphin selecting wide receiver in the very first part around one. It's all either a wide receiver or defensive end I think we can read those too, but but the the the one thing I kind of disagree with you here. Matt is the sense that you know. They see that urgency because I think there's kind of a difference from liking a guy so much. You take the first round and not addressing the situation whatsoever. You know what I mean now if they like this guy in the first. First Round and ended up. You know quote unquote, settling for a guy in the third or fourth round, I'd say all right there little more concerned, but I think more about how much they liked that specific player as compared to overall their entire core. It's kind of like the no monogamy pick. You know you don't take him and decide. are a you know we really need that taking our secondary. We just really liked this player so. They do have a little bit of faith in this receiving core by not going inciting someone else. It is really interesting that they did like a guy in the first round and thought that was worthy pick, but I think what we can agree on here as greer floor as all these guys really are are wrapping. Their heads around something. The dolphins haven't been able to do for quite a long time, and that's really established depth at not settling on a position that. Hey, we have so and so we have a XYZ players. Let's go get you know. Eighty two or something? Let's keep that system going where we're producing guys. Moving back to what the dolphins are doing last year. On average they spent. You know thirty three minutes per game. Trailing fifth worse in the League Their time of possession per game was twenty eight minutes, and you have to think, too. You know a big thing that you throw. The ball goes incomplete. The clock stops and when you're running the ball. That clock keeps moving your time. Possession goes up and these introduce important when you're really put into perspective. What these receivers do and this is going to be a lot about devante parker when you think about these things. something. I'M GONNA use a lot. Is something called a yellow ball? And you only live once so it's just kind of hooking it up there and really just going with the flow right basically playing for behind with less time equals. You throw the ball lap Ryan Fitzpatrick completed. Fifteen passes on third down last season with at least ten yards to gain I see that as a yellow ball. I mean if you guys if you guys have. That you hey, you're jake. You're told the out in right field this. Bet Slap me over the head or something, but when you're in third and the ten I think you're gonNA. Be a little more risky. You're more likely to Kinda just hook it up right. You're kind of going to take those chances downfield and what we're going to talk about. Here is how devante Parker really really benefited from those balls I mean. He was fourteenth in the League in targets, tied for twentieth in receptions, but then you go to receiving yards, one, thousand, two, hundred, and two is four receiving touchdowns nine tied for three tied third. Excuse me and only five jobs in the sense. He benefited from the yellow balls, four hundred receiving yards, uncontested catches according to PF. Now when you look at an offense at Madel, start with you. Say you know it's. Third and five compared to third and ten. You're not just hooking it downfield. Hoping your receiver can make a play. There's probably a play in your system where you're trying to get someone open for seventy eight yards. You trying to look for those five yards compared to just you know going for the fifteen twenty. Because you know worst case you it. Is that kind of fair? I mean I. Guess, but you also have to look at Ryan Fitzpatrick style right? He has always been the guy purser. Kinda just gives his wide receivers a chance to make a play on his tight end, and when you have a guy like devante Parker. When you look at it, demonte poker's route tree throughout the twenty nine hundred season, a lot of them were were or go routes right, and a few of them are slants. There were there was not a whole lot of refined route running with in all of his roots that he was running. The problem is this with Devante, Parker. Now called the offense of share metric. He received in two thousand nineteen and grade of Twenty eight point, zero three, which ranked eighty fourth out of ninety three qualifying wide receivers now. Oh sm kind of talks about the the individuals. Production. In an offense, so it's not you know it doesn't mean that Parker was one of the NFL's worst wide receivers his grade. Just indicates that he was highly inefficient producing. Impressive numbers right so he caught only fifty six point three percent of his passes. This was only better than nineteen other wide receivers to put how poor that ring is into perspective. Remember that ninety three other wide receivers in total qualified for a grade, so parks catch percentage was well below the medium, and then there was a massive difference between Parker and a guy. We all know who he got to beef with with Michael Thomas on twitter. who had the highest percentage at that position? So Thomas on one hand he caught eighty point five percent percent eighty point five four percent of his targets. Compare that to devante Parker Fifty six point three, but my point is this. Parker has failed. Consistently throw his career to create separation from the fenders, which is why there may be so many jump balls when it comes to Devante Parker so at the time that his quarterbacks passes reached him, whoever was in the under center last whether it was fitzpatrick arose in the nearest defender to devante Parker was an average of one yards away. This was tied for the third lowest distance in the NFL. Simply put. devante Parker did a terrible job getting. Which is obviously something very important wide receiver success? So you can look at that you could say fitzpatrick. Is One of those Yolo guys right? Who just throws the ball up and let his play, but you could also in the same breath look devante Parker. Inability to create separation from defenders. and which is could be a very telling reason why the balls that come his way, our jump balls. So sorry that was so long winded. Oh! No. That's the key here because I mean when when you think about these players what they're gonNa try to do, and this isn't just a conversation. The dolphins I mean if you're fantasy, you know player or something like that. These are things you want to kind of keep in mind in the back of your head, because those are the little X.. You know that kind of put you in a different perspective compared to seeing you know the nine receiving touchdowns and man I I think that's interesting because. I think. I don't know if I completely agree with that. I will say I. Don't expect Parker to do this this exact thing again for a combination of reasons including time of possession, but I mean he had the most catches downfield twenty yards down the field without dropping a pass, so let's let's. Say You! Albert Wilson. Can't you know One v? One really beat someone for a jump ball and that's kind of his. Struggle does it make him you a poor wide receiver subpar concern. No, because you know, he beats people in other ways. However, the thing that blew me away is just consistency. The four hundred yards contested catches for him and Tied, for first with the drop passes on twenty yards downfield. It makes you wonder. Is the separation really the end? All be all for someone like him when he isn't dropping balls when he is. You know catching these I don't I. Don't expect him to catch everything downfield of twenty yards or more anymore. I mean I really don't expect that to happen. I did see there was some where he'd go for a jump ball and the ways defender went you went for. For the ball, a Dingo for him, he could walk right into the end zone for a touchdown. I remember, that's how he really got going in the eagles game where he really took over and prude where I think he could be clear number one receiver, but but Josh what? What's the sense here of? I mean I think consistency is what we're really looking for in Parker and I don't think the way he was used in two thousand nineteen, especially with this Downfield assault he really thrived is the way for him to get those numbers back to where they were season. Yeah I agree with a little bit of both what you guys are saying, I do think this is something. Where in order for the dolphins, wide receiver core to truly be what we expect it to be. devante Parker has to go out there and do something he has yet to do, and that is you know put pile these game the seasons back to back out there and prove that he can be that number one wide receiver and And when you say number one wide receiver, people think okay. That's where he is on the depth chart to me. That means that he is dominant force that you turn to when plays breakdown, or when you see that single coverage like you said he's talked about the yellow balls, and that made a great point you know Ryan Fitzpatrick's career has been based off these yellow balls, but if you see Devante Parker, one on one in coverage with. Any cornerback in the NFL. You're going to give him a chance to go up there and get that. He's six foot, three, two hundred plus pounds. I mean I'm looking at Matt Harmon of fantasy footballers reception by perception chart, and he has the success rate for Devante Parker Oh nine routes the streak, sixty three point, eight percent, and that is. That is, it's green. You know that's a well above. The average has the flat at eighty percent. So you know an out route. And then he has a screen at one hundred percent, so those are those are some of the routes that devante Parker surely thrived at, but again I think that when you look at him when he was drafted, you know. The dolphins expected him to be the dominant force. Force on the outside, and we see what Matt said with those you know he's only got what two two yards separation I look at that Stefan Gilmore game where he pretty much turn him inside out and put him into a washing machine. I mean Stefan. Gilmore is running down the field and Devante. Parker route right back in the ball, and then bullied his way through Stefan, Gilmore, I think. You know what we saw. The beginning of the season from the dolphins offense as a whole was the Kinda sputtered, and it took them time to truly develop, and you look at the way. He took all news last few games. You, you mentioned Philadelphia. He dominant foresee took that game over, and that's what you expect from Devante Parker again to me. The biggest thing is can he do it and be consistent but But from what I saw last year Devante Parker you sit here and you look at the NFL and you can see here name off. The Michael is the Andre Hopkins you know all these elite wide receivers I don't think. devante Parker is in that same class right now and some dolphin fans do I. Mean You saw on twitter? People were saying it's better than Michael. Thomas No way in Hell is Devante Parker? Thomas after one season, but does he have the potential? If he goes out there and strings to three seasons together continues to develop on what he already shown. Maybe so so for me, I think like we said we will touch on the entire wide receiver corpse. Being a strength is going to come down to. devante Parker Devante, Puerto Down compressed and Wayne step into that role. He is similar, you know. Know He, he is a similar style of play. He can go up there and make those same Khan you know those one in one on one coverage. Go up there sky up. There highpoint the football make those plays, but is he that dominant force like devante Parker I? Don't know that he is after that half a season. We saw so for me the entire twenty twenty season offensively that. That passing game is going to come down to whether or not devante Parker can replicate that in some people have already anointed him as the savior as this number one wide receiver that has completely you know transform the way this receiving corporate I. Don't think it has become that and I. Don't think that we can sit here and assume that that's going to be the Devante Parker that we see. See, what we saw last season because we have plenty of a tape, and and the years have gone by that. We know that devante Parker was just so so you know he didn't eat right. He went out there and he was getting hurt on the simple plays I think it was. It was two three years ago. I remember turn. He didn't turn field to get the first Downey. He ran. He ran horizontally and he ended up to hurt himself, and he was out for a couple of games. I mean we have to see consistently from devante Parker but does he have the skill set to be that elite dominant wide receiver absolutely. I have one more. Parker said that that's GONNA. Really help us segue depressed and Williams I. If there's anything else you've got i. mean now's the time. To Nail on the head I will say. That this, about devante Parker, his second half of the season, dramatically different than in the first half of the season. When you look at weeks, let's just take weeks. One through eight right? I know that by week was sprinkled in there or you look at his. Greed you know weeks one through eight and you put it all together and average out you are getting. That was one two three four five games and. Angry of low twenty two point eight eight when you then take weeks nine through weeks ten right and you combine all that together. And you all that data that through action stats and the heartland, white stuff, no judgments as a no judgment zone here at PF N. like planet, fitness, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. We do not get paid by planet fitness. By the way his grade jumped up six points at twenty eight point eight zero, which is much more respectable. And then you can see kind of his rankings like in week eleven. He was wide receiver ten. In terms of always salmon we twelve, he was wide receiver, twenty five out of like ninety ish and we thirteen, he was thirty five. You know, and then he kind of fell into a little plateau there that seventy finish wide receiver twenty five. His overall rank was wide receiver eighty, four, mainly, due to that really bad first half of the season he was wide receiver sixty three in week, one, hundred, six two, but you could see the improvement, so you look at that and you hope. That? He can continue to do that, but I'm very very cautious with it because of the fact that he has never in his career, really shown true separation from defender, and we don't know what to was playing style is going to be like in the NFL. We know what it was like college, but we don't know how that's going to translate to the NFL. We know that he likes to hit. Those quick hits slants and quick kit targets. devante is not made for that. Guy which we talked about the. Go Up and get it. Kinda Guy and win at the point. So it's going to be very interesting to see how he transitions along what you mean as dolphins fans, we'll have to hope that he does make that successful transition. And you know. You set up a Segue segue because you know I think the biggest reason why Parker might not have the repeat performance. I don't really think it has anything to do with the skill set. Maybe the team around him not only the the two factor, but. US One of the best word CEVERS NFL NFL from week nine on in twenty, thousand nineteen, his rankings among wide receivers in that time. I in yards, tied for first and touchdowns, fifth in yards per route and six yards per row, run ran. Excuse me and you know what happened week nine. Do we have any guesses here? Preston Williams got her. House you mentioned earlier. That offense looked really funky early in the season. Of course they're gonNA. Look funky when you're done. Twenty one to nothing in the Ravens and the first four minutes of the game, but he led all rookies targets fifty nine weeks one through nine. Is that going to make your offense? Look a little wonky is surely think so and I. Did really I think they were trying to is at the time I felt like there are force force-feeding Williams to Kinda see what he had see how much he can handle. See what he can do, but I mean it did not look like a clean offense when Williams was being forced fed quite this much started in seven games played in a finished with thirty two receptions on sixty targets. Targets free first downs, including six red zone receptions. That's kind of the thing you know especially late. In the season, we saw Seki and Parker look like red zone targets, but that was really Williams early in the season they really wanted to see this guy could do and if Williams's healthy and again, this is the second year. We really can't come in and think he has these high standards because. He's recovering from an injury. These are all things we really need to worry about and think about. When we kind of put together, it was receiving core We wanted to bounce back. It'd be the guy who looked awesome at times. Who Look like he could be the devante Parker. On the other side, the Brandon Marshall to the Eric Decker gaily offense, you know what I mean, but but there there's a concerns there. He only fifty three percent of his passes, and had five drops an eight point, three drop percent rate that was thirteenth in the League, He suffered that Ucla Andrew in week nine, and he's currently working his way back in the dolphins are hopeful. He's ready for the opener I say quote unquote ready because we can all agree. The elder Wilson came back when he was quote unquote ready, but he wasn't really ready ready until week for fourteen so Preston Williams. I want to see this dynamic really worked together for a season, because it can't be feast on one side of the family. The other like this was for those nine weeks. We talk about how Parker blew up. When Williams was on the field, it was more of. Williams they're going to throw these yellow balls up to know devante Parker third and ten and things like that, but we the up to Chan Gailey to really find a way for these guys to balance the workload, and if there's a balance regular season. To. Be a bit of a concern. Parker is going to have those high of numbers. Will again this season? Yeah I completely agree and I think the first thing I gotTA throw out there. We gave some clancy props on that story and you know. Bring that out to light I. GotTa Give Ck Para. Props on Preston wins because he was a guy that told me immediately know. This guy has the potential to be stood wide receiver. Some people said this could be a first round town if it wasn't for his off the field issues I think you made a great point Jake in. In saying that the biggest thing between both Parker and Williams was con- they need to get better. You know securing the football I mean we saw Preston dropped that touchdown against I think it was New England. Where frozen him right in the hands. You could've walked into the end zone drop ball. I mean, there's countless you can go back and watch a film nurse countless tape on Preston, Williams on the opportunities they left behind, but twofold I mean you have to wonder just. How spectacular wide receiver. You could potentially be I mean Ryan. Fitzpatrick went out there and he targeted this undrafted free agent like he was a first round town. I mean he had confidence that Preston Williams if he was in. A, one on one coverage wherever he wasn't out on the field that he could get him the football and he can make a play. I brought Matt. Harman's a perception from reception. reception perception lists with earlier. I'm going to bring it up again here. At the Preston William Success Rate was seventy two point, two percent, running the post and one hundred percent at. At the flat, so those were his two most accessible routes that post route. I mean that's the kind of route that we see to a have a lot of success with but to me again. It's consistency and I continue to bring this up and I'm going to bring it up every time. We talk about Preston Williams before that injury he was on pace to. To have a better rookie season than Jerry fricken rice I know the two are completely separate. I know that Preston Williams is not going to Jerry Rice, but he was on pace to have more yards. Jerry rice his rookie season, so I think Jake's absolutely right Changlin needs to figure out a way to get. These two guys involved. You got one. That's six three Preston. Preston Williams at six foot five, and that's not even counting Mike. Just sticky who six foot six! What what defensive back What secondary in the NFL is going to be able to counter that size I? Just don't understand how they can't go out there. And you know feast on opposing defenses, but again time will tell and I think we're all getting A. A little too excited about the potential Preston Williams opposite Parker. We gotta remember. He's still not fully healthy, and we know why that is, and I'm Gonna I'm GonNa. I'll try not to get upset, but there's no reason why. Preston Williams should be returning punts in the NFL. You know when you grand on the roster. There's no reason in Hell why press should returning kicks. Kicks so I think that ACO Andrew could've been avoided I. It's a shame that happened and we just gotTa. Hope that he gets back and he's fully recovered. I think he was out there yesterday. I think instagram. He's out there with the route king, you know. He was out there. Running routes in catching football, so it does seem like Preston Williams on the right. Right track, but to have him healthy and obser- Devante Parker. We saw the way defenses. I just don't know how defense can plan for that. So I'm excited to see what I can do, but just like Parker. We need to see consistency and he's get better catching securing the football and we got to see how he operates offense because it's completely different this. This guy was a rookie last year, he seemed to develop well under an offense that many people believe bill was difficult to learn with shadow shea. That's the reason he's gone, so we'll see what pressing Williams can do but i. think the sky's limit. Twenty three years old, undrafted free agent. The dolphins continued hit on these ACORNS. Let's just see what he can do. Matt, what are your thoughts on Preston especially? When you kind of try to put together that chemistry of you know, you can't just kind of telegraph. Hey, you know. Williams is going to be the guy for nine weeks, and then you know Parker. Going to be the guy. The rest of the season I feel like that's not how you can establish an offense and I don't think it's healthy for either the players. Like Preston. Williams I think he has a bright future, and remember he was should have been a high pick in the NFL draft I. Don't know about first round, but definitely you know within the first. Two days of the NFL draft, but an unfortunate domestic violence incident I believe that was later cleared or whatever Of choke him off. Many drawers and obviously concerns some concerns about that, but we all saw he was having a very promising. Until he got hurt S- about halfway through the year and when you look at his. Grade You know you look at. He was probably right in the middle of the pack, a little more a little dog that week four. He was wide receiver, thirty two out of about ninety we two, he was wide receiver twenty four. We saw that kind of drop in production when Josh Rosen was in there and then Ryan. Fitzpatrick started coming right back to him. Preston has a very promising future in Miami. MIAMI, but again he's UTSA. He got injured. His first year showed some promise, but just like every other wide receiver on this on this roster. They all need to show that they continue their momentum. They continue their progress otherwise this wide receiver, none of them continue to progress or of none of them continued to improve in the all regress to be very very tough, looking wide receiver group in twenty twenty. Yeah and I think that's the key. Here's on certain t the lack of consistency that we really haven't seen this group, and and that that remains true moving onto over Wilson. From this webs website I I don't know how true it is bummed. It's GonNa. Use It for the sake of The conversation here at sports injury predictor DOT com. If that doesn't really tell you what it's about go, look it up, Albert Wilson has fifty three percent chance of being injured in twenty twenty and projects Games missed at one point seven now I wouldn't put too much stock in the excited for Juki. Grant and they said there was zero percent chance to King Cran. Get injured and it's football. Everybody gets injured, so I'm GonNa Kinda take that for what it is, but. It's funny, literally impossible. So September eighth, two, thousand nineteen. He had that leg calf strain. Against the Ravens, an active for three games, but I think we can agree as I'm GonNa kind of touch on in a minute. He really didn't look like himself until late in the season he started, have some strong runs against the Philadelphia Eagles, and then he really looked like himself the last three weeks of the season where he was averaging over ten yards, catch but the big injury that I think we're all fearful fearful of. Of for just the way he plays the way he uses. Agility was the over twenty, two thousand eighteen hectare, and you know they call it a quote unquote small, but I mean is seems like a very serious injury. Twenty eighteen was the least about a game series played in his career. He's only played sixteen games once in his career as a twenty eight year old two, thousand and nineteen as we mentioned, he missed the three games. We Fifteen, seventy nine. Eleven point five yards reception. Nothing about eight point seven, except for the bills in week seven one catch for twenty two yards I really don't think that counts. Josh when you look at someone like this and you put into consideration The restricted restructured contract. He's going from twenty twenty salary cap hit of ten million down to three million one million incentives. What does that kind of say about Not only the teams, expectations, but You know his spot on this team. Yeah I think you said it best year. It really is a proven year for for Albert Wilson and I think we can all recall how. I don't to say dominant 'cause. He was down to, but just how explosive he looked in that season before he got injured i. mean he was he was? It's hard to even say I mean I abs. Football something awesome happened and I mean when he came over here from Kansas City, let's be honest. People had to look him up and try to see how he fitting that offense because he wasn't that name that you knew, but once he can't Miami I mean he. He was towing. Touchdown passes Kim Grand. You know it completely dismantle Chicago bears in that game I mean. I just can't and maybe I'm not the right person to talk about our. Wilson because I M so high on him and just cannot overlook just how. Awesome he was he was. He looked like a human video game. You know you hear about these players. Go out there, and it can make defenders miss and their explosive and everytime we touch a football. Great things happen. He reminded you of that video game type wide receiver. Where if you get the ball in his hands? You know something's going to happen, so I I do think that this is absolutely proven year. I think that when you look at. At Him and you look Kim Grant, you see that similar skill set. You know that they're not the biggest players. I mean operations obviously bigger than Jiechi grant, but I mean they're both speedsters and the entire. The entire game plan is to get the ball in their their hands, and then watch them. Do good things so I think it is absolutely per year I'm excited to see know when to a is out there. How is he going to? To me. Our Wilson Education grant the most effective thing they can do. Besides catching screen passes are being used as a gimmick is those quick slant passes? You know where they beat the corner. Get inside, and they get the football on their hands, and then the rest is just let them make a player. Miss so for me I'm excited to see when that does happen I think our Wilson is the perfect you know I. Guess He'd be the slot receiver I know they're working out Gary Jennings in there and that's something we'll talk about it. We still earns and. God, this receiving core has a bunch of people that we still got to go over, but I mean I think Albert Wilson. I cannot overlook just how explosive he was. If he can stay. Healthy I think you'll be worth every bit of that money that the dolphins restructured him into. At that point, they have to decide at twenty eight years old. Is Our Wilson worse keeping around the? They said that Allen Hers was last year. So you can't tell me if our Wilson doesn't go out there and look half of what he did before he got hurt a few seasons back, he won't be worth. It contracts limited. Allen earns, and not just you know. Take that SPA. Because to me, I've seen more out of our Wilson, and this is no not yet sound her. You know. Maybe it is but I. I, if to me I think I, would take Albert Wilson over to Kim Grant and Alan hearns and I'm just going to end up with that I think too. I, think it's safe to say you healthy. Everything's have healthy. These are Miami's three starting my receivers I think there's not too too much debate about that one, and it's all. It's all health with them right all three of them I mean they don't have the same extent as now Wilson. Orage keen grant put a Preston Williams had an injury. You're one. One devante Parker has been hammered, but hampered by injury throughout his entire career, so a lot of this, what if if they can stay healthy? And truthfully I mean the Adam Gates offense was literally that that mean where it was literally a picture of Adam Gates Poking Wilson with a sick and saying do something that's really how that offense operated under gays and man I. I've kind of gone about this with with specific perspective and I love your take on it. when the when the dolphins cut his salary. Salary from ten million to three million. This is obviously a two sided decision. You know Albert Wilson agreed with Albert Wilson wanted that contract and to me that says he he had a feeling, and maybe the team even presented to them that you're still gonNA be a big part of this offense we this is kind of like approval year to you. You know if you want to get that one last contract on from twenty eight. You know maybe till you're thirty to get that last four years. Something like that. Now am I an online of saying you know there was that conversation had weird, not only was A good deal for the dolphins, but a good year for Wilson where he could really show himself as if I'm healthy I could still do it I could still get that good contract, or was it more that you know? The dolphins cornered him a in the sense of he wasn't going to even contract that good elsewhere. Which side would you really feel that you're setting out in there? I love Elver Wilson just like Joshua outs was getting very excited. Talking Albert Wilson Because Albert Walston can put this team in real good position to do big things in twenty twenty and I feel like to. It's La is a quarterback that is tailor made for our Wilson's game. So when you look at what the dolphins it with his contract, they may have been considering cutting him because the salary obviously does not need his production. And that's really no fault of his own, and we all remember during that game against the Detroit lions I believe it was a few years back. It was literally a freak injury. Because of the way someone tackled him to the ground, and it was a bad injury was a severe injury, and there were rumors that it could possibly end his career. So, if anyone was really expecting our Wilson and comeback to form to true form at the beginning of last season is out of their minds. We saw him as one on slowly regained that burst now can he fully regain that burst and consistently regain that burst, according to you know pf Renzo SM, metric offense assured metric, which you can find a pro football network DOT com. Wilson's OSM grade. One of the best in the NFL last season. So, yes, while his injuries and inconsistent play makes difficult to evaluate how well he played. We can look at this. And he had an overall grade of thirty seven point, three six, which ranked eighth among walling qualifying players at the wide receiver position. Now this is not saying just like. Parker was not saying that he's the worst receiver in the NFL. This is not saying that Albert. Wilson is the eighth best receiver in the NFL last season. It's evaluating again. HOW EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT! He was within the Miami Dolphins offense so despite his limited production, he performed exceptionally well, according to the metric. When you look at it further in two thousand Nineteen Wilson average three and a half yards at distance between himself and the nearest defender when the ball reached him that number that's tied for the second highest among qualifying receivers, just zero point one yards behind the leader, and then another critical factor which you talked about what Devante Parker is the catch percentage? Many receivers obviously kind of struggle. It's Area A little bit, but Wilson in twenty, nine hundred sixty nine point, three five percent of his targets, the tenth highest percentage among qualifying why receivers so not only is this guy someone who gets opened catches the ball wants. It's thrown to him, but as someone who wants. He has the ball in his hands. He can do very dangerous things so if he can get that explosion back. He is going to be tailored made for this offense. And he is going to really be able to do big things with to a Tonga by law in Ryan. Fitzpatrick continues US up. Am I, am I? Are you guys with me. Let's say everybody. On the Miami Dolphins in terms of receivers are hundred percent healthy. Everyone's on the same playing field. Are we have the same confidence level in the sense of? Expectations of Elbert Wilson would likely be. You know we'd have the highest expectations of him. This based on what we know about him. How he plays and is in terms of consistency would probably agree with me there. This wide receiver group has the potential to do a lot of special things if everyone is helping on the same playing field. Yeah, what Matt said I mean I. Think I mean I love what our Wilson can't do when he's healthy i. just think the biggest thing is him. Getting back to what he wants was then remaining healthy 'cause I mean we haven't seen it yet in Miami. I for sure and then moving on I think this is where the. The fight really begins of. WHO's GONNA. Make this. Miami dropped her and that's what you came grant. is to kind of put this into perspective. Also twenty years old then literally blew my mind. That him and Albert Wilson are the same age a feeling. You Know Wilson kind of establish himself in. Kansas City and worked his way over here, and you know grant still a budding young guy with with expectations you know, but twenty eight years old, not at returner He played sixteen games in his each I seasons, but as missed six games need to last two. He had the High Ankle Sprain on November twenty fourth last season. That really just kinda ended his year of. Hasn't scored a touchdown since having two receptions against Oakland in two, thousand, eighteen, the high five game. And he has topped only forty receiving yards in his entire career three times so for grant to make this roster. Is it over Wilson Versus Drinking Grant? I think it is I. Don't see how those two again. I mentioned how they have similarities in their play style I. Think it's absolutely between. Wilson's. You came grant, and you know maybe decide. Neither of them are in the future plans, but I do think it's GonNa. Come down to which one of those explosive play makers can go out. There remain healthy and make the most plays in. Shankill is offense, and you know whichever one may end up. Seizing that opportunity could be on the dolphins roster for the next two three years. Years, but again I don't know I. We're GonNa talk about her a little bit. Would you guys rather have Allen hearns or Albert Wilson? Education? Grant know which if it comes down to three of them I. Think I'd rather have our Wilson Education Grant and Alan hearns, but again it all comes back to their injury history. And what they? What have they done for me lately and? I I'm torn. I think this is a very good. discussion. We're having on this receiving core and I think. Humble some people who think that you know this is some juggernaut that could be unstoppable. It's tough for me. I'm sitting here I'm battling my inner demons. I don't know the answer, but it's absolutely between our Wilson Takim grant to see which one of those guys best fits that role in his offense. So Josh Blue Let's just bring Alan Hans right into this to the dolphins game a new two year contract near the end of last season. I'M NFL was a one year contract I'd I'd be really concerned about his roster spot, but the fact that it's two years again. This could be like Wilson's contract. Run kind of looking into it a bit too much, but I'm a little more confident in hearn's ability here to make roster. And some things go with that I mean he did have W. Two touchdowns in two thousand fifteen. Yes, that was five years ago and yes, that was probably another Yolo effect right? Where was Blake bortles coming from behind? Just gun in it to hearn's got into Robertson and and Robinson. Excuse me and really just letting it go He has not top five hundred yards since then nor sixty targets He had forty seven with the dolphins last season with two touchdowns and. Another player who I was starting to think actually was really getting healthy. And I think the conversation might really boil down to age. Akeem Green Against Ellen and it's important to keep in mind here. Both of them can make the roster, but we're kind of focusing on if everyone's healthy. WHO's getting that playing time? Because both of these guys are at the beginning of their career odds, aren't they? Don't really get a lot of playing time. They're going to have to try to find another team because I think teams are going to really start to focus on potential compared to you know a twenty nine year old who you know what their ceiling is therefore is, and you're going to get some kind of in the middle of their. Instead you KINDA WANNA. WanNa look for someone like we'll talk about later. Even afford. A Gary Jennings a mirror at one of these guys who the potential is still through the roof. They're still very young I mean that that's my biggest concern with grant because I think. We saw what he's capable of with blowing by receivers what he can do. I know he's not a kick returner, but just that speed the ability to get away from defenders. The the billion high-fives seem sima on his way to the end zone, and then we saw against the New England patriots that that really physical catching the hands on Monday night where he really became kind of a cult classic for the Dolphins Dolphins Fans. In the sense of Hey, he can do this stuff and either goodbye receiver. You don't make the NFL without being receiver, but the consistency we've. We've only seen three games where he's really shown off as a wide receiver. Yes, these videos are great. I'm really excited I'm really hopeful what he's capable of, but I mean there's an I think that's real. The big battle in terms of being that fourth wide. Wide Receiver I don't think grant is someone who maybe you only play in the slot. Like Wilson I think know that Patriot game really showed it. He can compete for catch can really go up through his body, but he did have some last season. There are some things to worry about and like I said I think it's GonNa be her versus Gr- grant for those fourth wide receiver targets. Yeah, I think the biggest thing to me is these are two completely different wide receivers? We mentioned grant now. He's a similar style to our Wilson and I think a lot of this. You gotTa Kinda. Take a step back in you know. Take the phantom out of the Sami. We also. Kim Grant he was on undrafted. You know you heard about the story him battling. Get into the NFL store. Yeah, I mean it's it's you make it makes you root for me was in his mighty mouse. He's a small guy. Knows been counted out entire life. He was considered. What appears to be by Chatto, Shane last season, the Miami Dolphins as nothing more than a kick returner punt returner i. mean he's going out there and he's trying to do everything he possibly can to prove as a wide receiver to prove that he belongs on the Miami Dolphins and you got respect that and then you look. And I mean this is a guy who you mentioned it. He had a great year of Blake Bortles in Jacksonville. I mean. Blake Bortles is trash out. Terms went out there and made a ton of money based off of what he did with Blake, Bortles it was a four share deal. Forty million dollars, and the cowboys brought him in because at the time to cowboys, not have anything resembling a wide receiver around hearns in and I might be mistaken here, but I think they believe that he could beat that number one wide receiver. He fits that mold. He's six foot three and. And it makes you wonder what the dolphins saw. I mean he of played primarily in the slot he was he was another one of those big bodied wide receivers, except he might be able to run routes a little bit better than a Devante Parker oppressed, and Williams, and you mentioned age which Akeem Grand Opera Wilson on her also twenty eight. He just signed that to your extension like you said and isn't really making that much money so to me, it's it's always about what have you done for me lately? And you got to take a step back and think you know what? Alan hearns was this pretty damn good wide receiver Jacksonville. You know he was well enough that he went out there and made a ton of money with the Dallas Cowboys. They brought him in to be the number one, if not number, two wide receiver and to me, that speaks volumes, so the Dolphins Bryant Florez I mean it's kind of been their mo since he got here. You know you sign players. You give them an opportunity to go out there. Improve their worse. You know on air grow Ted Karasu this year, I. I mean the list goes on and on. I mean mark won't and I mean. I can sit here. We can discuss the map Rita's the Jordan Howard. You know whoever might be you go out there and you saw these players they go out there. And they proved their worth proved that they have success proved that they can beat this team player and reward them with a contract. They reward down her contract. I don't think any dolphins fan could sit here and say you know I'd rather have Allen hearns over Kim Grant. Wilson based off what you've seen from the based off of the relationship, or you know again the Phantom that you have for those guys, but as Allen Hers Better Wide Receivers Kim Grant probably, is he a better wide receiver? Albert. Wilson, maybe so I mean it's. I mean I love Wilson, but I'm sitting here and saying Alan hearns done much morning fell right than Alber Wilson. Has and I mean he kind of again. It's bill unwanted receiver I mean. It's crazy to me and it. It comes back to just how these guys are viewed by the coaching staff. I mean Matt I'm going to be honest if I had to choose between her or Albert Wilson Right now knowing our Wilson come out next year, and possibly get hurt, and you know be a free agent. I'd probably take our Wilson, but. Alan hearns again has been productive because the injuries and again it keeps coming back to the injuries and ED. It mean to be this way, but. All of these receivers that we mentioned so far have a history of injury, so all it takes is one or two of these guys to go down. And then what and they're on to the next batch a. how do you feel it on the? Let me know. Let me know what you're thinking about earns. I like Alan hearns I. Do I think what you guys are saying between Kim? Grant is accurate and I think at the end of the day. If the dolphins had to choose today, they would probably choose Alan hearns over grant. Remember you came brand was not this regime selection right You could say Chris Shore but Brian Floors did not select Jiechi Grant. Chan Gailey did not select. Juki Grant Chatto Shay did not select Jiechi grants. Grant was selected by Adam Gates to be kind of that guy. That gadget guy has offense to Kinda. You'll throw the mismatches out there, but Jiechi has not proven that he could do anything really consistently in the NFL, whereas like you, said Joshua, outs Allen hurting says showed even with the you know. The one of the best quarterbacks of all time and Jacksonville Blake Bortles. He can still do big things, and we saw flashes of that with its Patrick last season. hearns is not a speedster. He's at possession guy. He's going to need time to get open in his roots, and unfortunately the dolphins offensive line did not give Ryan Fitzpatrick much time to allow those routes to develop so I think we could see some improved. Improved passing. I guess that's the right phrase. I just kind of drew a blank there, but we can see an improvement in hearn's his game coming into the twenty twenty season. I know of Kim. Grant is going to make this roster and you know when we first started this discussion about seventeen minutes ago I think that I was on the fence about Jackie. Grant Versus Ellen hearns, but the more that I heard Joshua House talk about Alan hearns in the more I heard him Kinda describe and Jacob Mendel. Talking are planning document about came granted the hype videos, and all that those are obviously great, but you gotTa show it on the field right and Kim grant has not done a great job of showing how he can consistently do it on the field, and then there's other guys behind. There's I see a Ford who? I call the steal the draft. If he could stay healthy. Unfortunately, he has not no. We're going to talk about Kirk Mirror, which has some tidbits on as well but you know this. This bottom half of the dolphins wide receiver group is going to be very interesting to watch. Yeah and I think that's the key here. Because when we do say you know one of these guys over the other, and it's not for like a roster spot because I think we can. We can say that you know unless they really cannot go out and play I. Think you know Education Grant and Allen hearns in an Elbow Wilson? I mean there's enough room on the roster for all of them. It's the fact that when you're the fifth wide receiver, the sixth wide receiver the. The amount amounted targets. The amount of your vote in the game plan drastically changes that at that's happening when you're twenty. Eight I mean the it used just a concerning part of of where you kind of fit in the team's future when you have these young guys who you're keeping them in the roster at the six who have one good game lately saw? Thank you back for the Segue is a four and a half last year and men. He's only twenty four years old. Temple my mind I thought he was I feel he's been floating around the dolphins a lot longer than that caught one target in two thousand, eighteen played in eight games in two thousand and nineteen, caught twenty, one or twenty nine targets in weeks, fourteen through seventeen in average ten yards per reception. Grant he played with nobody else was available. And you know He. He definitely seemed like he made the most of it. He did. Sign a one year extension. Worth six hundred thousand dollars I wouldn't say he's a lock fifty three man roster, but you know I decided to kind of go back and watch some more of for just to kind of really help a little bit more perspective. Excuse me. He at the age of eighteen head over seven hundred yards at Virginia Tech and was very very young, and he's the all time leader in touchdowns. He can surprise and become great, but in order to be a surprise in order to make upset and become a very great wide receiver. Expectations aren't aren't that high and I think that's kind of where I'm at with Isaiah for he needs to really come out and and take job and something I think that adds a little bit of perspective to this. In the preseason. You know you think about the guys fighting I remember watching hard knocks and thinking how unfair it is that these wide receivers have guys throwing them the balls who don't belong in the NFL can't single you know target. How can this guy prove he? If no one's giving them the opportunity guys like. Isiah Ford guys like even Takim grank as Gary Jennings Liquor. We'll talk about they're going to have some. They're going to have capable quarterback song to whether. It's to the second-string early in the year whether it's Josh Rosen I don't care. If Dr Rosen has long NFL career, he can get his guys football I. Think Have Ford could be primed to have a great preseason. Really Solidify Improve to this coaching staff that he belongs, but it's all about him going out there and taking I don't think there's going to be another, you know. He's got brock osweiler. He's got some cool chase. Daniels throwing the ball I mean I'd take I. Take Josh Rosen throwing the ball or those guys any day. I think that's so important for development I think it's important to get seen by coaching staff where you have guys around you who are capable of getting you the ball and Basically this is what I call Jake Watch a little bit of. He can thrive in a situation. He's put into A. we just need to create the situations and let him take advantage of him, and that's kind of what it boils down to. Yeah I mean I'm going to sit here and I'm going to be honest. Sutton tonight did an article for the finsider many many years ago, and I think both he and I came away impressed with what Isaiah afforded up Virginia Tech I. Mean You mentioned? He needs to go out there and sees this opportunities. Another guy six foot two. You know he's a big body runs great routes, and I think the biggest thing, look. Look at what he did when he was called upon when he was given those opportunities and to me. That big scheme is the jets game impressed Williams went down. You know he came in. He caught six nine targets for ninety two yards, and he went out there and you know. He moved chains. He got the dolphins in position to win that game. We know what happened. It was at Phantom. Pass interference. Call that. That didn't happen. Dolphins probably don't have a ton of low right now, so thank you. God for the Phantom Pass interference call, but from that point on I mean he went out there three or five targets against the giants, five six against Cincinnati seven and nine versus patriots in the end of the year. I mean I. Ford is a possession wide receiver, and I think that he fits that role of what we're talking about with an Allen hers even now Wilson Ford is the perfect slot wide receiver and I think that's kind of where you can do is most damage, but you gotta look at his career with the Miami Dolphins and he's been on the practice squad. What two maybe even three times by now? I mean this is a guy that he gets called up gets called back down. You know he gets caught up back down. You just WANNA see him. Seize that opportunity NFL loaded wide receiver room with all these veterans. These. Guys that are twenty eight years old who been in the NFL for some years I mean it's just a little. He playing behind the eight ball speak, you know he doesn't have the same experience or isn't had the same tape that some of these other guys. Have you just want see as as for? Go out there and I do think that at some point is therefore it is going to be a household name. The NFL he's not going. Going to be slightly wide receiver, but if he gets cut by the dolphins, and he doesn't Somehow Lynn practice squad, I mean see where he ends up and he. He's a fine number two receiver. I think he has all the skills to go out there and do it i. just think yes to bring it altogether. I am team Isaiah, Ford and we sit here and we're going to compare them to. An Allen earns or Kim grand our Wilson. I'd put Isaiah Ford in that. In that same category where I think I would love to see is a afford. Stick around and as a dolphins fan, and maybe it's because again, son I. We, we wrote an article in the finsider. We kind of dove into that tape, and the dolphins picked him up for me. Honestly I would love to see Isaiah Ford stake in get his. His a real chance at proving that he has a worth in the NFL. Because I do think he has all the skills beginning twenty four years old. When you look at this entire room, that might be twenty eight or whatnot, so the verdict still out is a afford, but as afford stand sort of speak. I am excited to see what he can do in Chiang offense and excited to see what he can do when he is at number three when he gets those opportunities, because once he. He was finally thrown into the lineup and your jets. He went out there continued to move the chains, and honestly he looked like the best wide receiver on the field. That time, so it's. It's crazy to sit here and say hey, afford you know is guaranteed roster spot because he's absolutely not, but if it were up to me, I would look into afford and I might keep him around more than Kim grant despite all that explosiveness different. You came grant because I think Ford is all little things. And I think what is important here is he's taking advantage of opportunities given to him, but I think the establishes himself I, mean he? He's really got to create his own opportunity I think he's really gotTA. Have those couple of plays where you know you're trying to that first down into a thirty yard gain. I think with the dolphins really deed, and you know Parker showed it a little bit, but a lot of it was just kind of hooking it up and hoping for the best, and yes, he came down with the more times than not in incredible, but the team truly needs that guy who you know on third down and little note here I think it's a little disservice service that we're not talking about a second but I. I mean we have seven eight to talk about so I guess it doesn't matter to too much, but we need someone who everybody everybody in the world and their mother all know that the dolphins are going to play or why it's third and seven. We know they're thrown into this guy. The tire defense knows it the entire you know stadium knows it, and they still completed. That is what the dolphins need. Could it be Parker? Possibly, Amin if he shows it because this the I think as they afford can be that guy you know Jarvis. Landry was that guy that guy you know. The entire world does cover. This guy is going to go. Do them and you still can't beat him? That is how you really create an opportunity, and I think like you said afford. Has that skill set? Man You got anything else before we move onto Gary, Jennings. You. Guys set it all on as a four I. Love the Guy, but he needs to stay healthy. A on June twenty six berry. Jackson Miami Herald reported that Gary Jennings will compete with Ellen. hearns in Isaiah, Ford for the fifth and sixth receiver jobs that makes it sound like you're team. Grant kind of has that fourth wide receiver job locked up again. The heads something I think I'd be pretty content with if he's healthy. It's all about if you can get those targets and and and really make something out of them. He was claimed off the dolphins. After Jennings is out. The Dolphin claimed by the. On waivers. After the seahawks go. He was a fourth round pick Of the twenty nineteen draft and then he came to the dolphins, and he's looking like a slot wide receiver I. He had opportunities right. The Dolphin suffered injuries. He should have really had his chance to make a statement. But. He injured his shoulder while sovereign king grants kick return touchdown during the dolphins lost to the bills. I bought online. I'm not sure if he can make the team with both Wilson and Ford being healthy or doing what they can do, secure roster spots I. Just don't know how you can keep someone like Jennings along with Wilson and Ford. I feel like that's not really diversifying your assets. Look at a guy like Gary Jennings and I know he's shown some promise in in practices such, but you're absolutely right. Jacob Mendel that. You have a guy like Shaquille brand mid round draft pick. You have a guy like currently just get the contract. He got a guy like Wilson who can you know barring any injury in training camp? He's going to be making team so Gary Jennings's fighting an uphill battle from here. I think the biggest thing here is you just got to kind of go back and watch what he did in college and I think Kinda. The reason I late will greer so much or thought that he could maybe potentially do something. L.'s because of the connection Gary Jennings I think you'll remember that Texas game where he just kept targeting him, and Jennings looked explosive and the biggest thing that stood out to me. Is that to the lowest since he moved to South Florida? No, he hasn't worked out with DEVANTE. Parker. Parker out with Preston Williams. Earn our. Wilson! He's been working out with Gary Jennings. So how much does that play in his favor again it's it's more of a how the coaches you Gary Jennings. 'cause if he can't celebrate a touchdown without getting hurt I mean. What can he do on the field? But this was a guy that was drafted in the fourth round. A Guy that you know has shown that he has the potential to be dominant slot wide receiver at least in the at the college level. It's it's one of those days. which what has he shown to the the coaching staff, and then I'm just going to throw it out. There I mean if he's developed this, you know. Report with to a time of low in the off season I mean to it comes into the starting lineup. Gary Jennings is still the roster I mean. How much does to a target Gary James who he has trust with who he's built this? The you know the this relationship within the off season so? It's really gonNA. Come down and I think you know we're sitting here and we're talking about this receiving core, and I think mad at some point as going to tell us why we shouldn't. Be excited or at least stink big things of this group, but every single receiver we continue to talk about I, mean the verdict still out on them, and they've shown at least at the collegiate level, or in the NFL that they have the potential to be very good wide receiver, so I mean I started out this off season. Thinking that wide receiver was a strong point of the. The Dolphins I've got an argument last year. Because someone said the dolphins you know, had bottom five receiving core whatever it might be I was right with that the dolphins do not have a bona fide receiving core, but I think a lot of people think there are a lot better than they are, and I was one of those included Jake kind of me, but now we're going. Going through this list and I'm I'm kinda getting excited again so I need to know I will. Matt knows about Kirk Merit, and then I need to know why. This receiving core isn't a strong point on that. Dolphins offense because going down this list. Yes, they're young. Yes, they have injury concerns. Yes, they gotta go out there and show some consistency, but you can make a case. Case for just about every one of these guys on that fifty three or whatever it's up to now I can't. I can't keep track with the cove nineteen and what they're gonNA eventually do with those rousers. How many players in keep on that but I mean you can make a case at every single. One of these guys deserves a chance on their in that opening day roster. You know I I WANNA. Get to Kurt, Ado I I'm actually really excited to talk about him, but the way I can describe this might be off. Receiving core is yes the potentials there but. Something's kind of. Gained out of that potential. Nothing right. It's hopes and dreams. The Miami Dolphins receiving core is in the hunt right now. The dolphins spent every year hunting for the playoffs. But what what happens when you're hunting for the playoffs would hear the Miami Dolphins you lose three games straight Gina Smith. Trucks I'll be into the end zone and you see the jets ruin your playoff hopes. The potential is fantastic I'm excited for it, but when you're twenty eight and we're still talking about potential. I'm starting. My hands float around the panic. I WanNa see you know the high expectations, high trajectory, and those guys really starting to always take advantage of those because like I, said. This is a group that's in the hunt. And as I know for my expenses, Miami Dolphin, Fan. If you're in the hunt, you're not in the playoffs, and that's basically what boils down to. So tells tells everything about Curt Merit I. WanNa hear this. I think Jake. Violated what he said about this inquiry. It's it's one of those things that we got. Sit Back. Relax and see the way it all unfold, so tell us what you know about. UNDRAFTED free agent Kirk mayor because a lot of dolphin fans for. For one reason or another already comparing him to Preston Williams, who again I think is. you know was a much better prospect coming out. So what have you heard about? Curt married and his potential make net that opening day roster. Yes, so thanks for bringing me appreciated so I was talking to someone from the dolphins the other day on the phone nightime. Because it's Kovin, you can't talk to each other in person though he would because he lives in Florida and other in Connecticut, but what about the nighttime? How does that play a factor into this 'cause? I feel like I feel like people open up more at nighttime. In what we're doing here like guess so. canceled shows canceled. Three can't do. In canceled right now so. FINSIDER radio into, their! Basically, this and I know that the team is not on the field right now, so take this for what it's worth right now, but at this point. The dolphins are very excited about the prospects of Kirk Merit making this team. He's very tuned into meetings right now. He is doing a very good job of grasping the playbook. He has a complete understanding of what is happening in the meetings and the dolphins coaches at this point are very hopeful that when they do hit the field. He is going to be able to easily translate what he's been learning and what he's been displaying the. Comprehension these playing in meetings. Can Be translated to the practice field pretty quickly now. The source did say that you know he does have some I. Don't WanNa, say hit issues, but sometimes. Focus problems, consistency issues and he's hoping the source is hoping that the coaches can get through to him once once. They're able to get back on the field. I heard another thing the other day yesterday I believe it was where there are several scouts, numerous scouts, and the Dolphin for the dolphins, and I can't say banging on the table in the war room, because there wasn't a war room, but they were really pushing hard for the dolphins to draft merit in the seventh round because they were afraid and. And they did not want to lose him as a you DFA, so they were really pushing for Chris. Greer and the coaching staff to to Take Merrin a seventh round because they really fell in love with him during the during the draft process, and so that just speaks volumes to the the way they're looking him right now. Obviously once you hit the field, everything can change, but as of this moment with the virtual meetings in the camps going on, he is someone to watch heading into training camp. Here's a little background on him Arkansas state is senior year eighty three catches, one thousand five yards, seven touchdowns the previous year seventy receptions eight. Oh, six yards and twelve touchdowns who's dismissed from Texas A and because of off the field issues. If you're interested in those, go go look them up I. Don't WanNa get too much into that all sun belt conference honors both years at Arkansas. seems like when I watched highlights and. He's a guy who's just going to head down. Run over anyone. Don't get in his way, or you're GONNA get hit by a train He won Nike Spark Awards. Speed Power Agility Reaction Quickness National Championship in two twenty fourteen previous winners include Landon Collins The Washington Redskins, safety, former New, York, giant and Baltimore Ravens JK Dobbins from lansner line NFL DOT COM without question married is one of the most athletic and. Receivers in the draft for all his physical prowess, he doesn't impose his explosiveness on opponents enough, and if you're saying that in college, you gotta be kind of concerned about that. You mentioned some like Landon Collins they'll. SAFETIES are big boys, and they can really push you around if you're not going to be the one to push them I The ball skills are impressive, but the route running needs work The played trades in athleticism would usually be enough to land a Monday three, but character concerns in his backyard could keep him from being picked. Probably my favorite stat about him He likes the pain. I don't know what you want to say about that. I do think you brought up pitchy Dobbins thing just the troll me because I think you know how upset that makes me to this very day. It'll probably send me for ten years from now but I. Mean Kirk Merit Legged One of my tweets on twitter. I think throughout the emojis. When he jumped up on that box, there was a video going around surfacing about that so i. mean I think that based off a Matt said I mean why. Why is he? Not just you know? Why can't he make the roster Venezia four now hearns. I mean. It's going to be definitely. Be Interesting to watch and to me. It's going to be a big factor is going to be out. These rosters expand with everything going on with Kobe, and then you know what these guys can bring to the table. A guy like kirk marriage is going to be a little bit behind a guy like Isaiah. Ford you would imagine, but then again it's brand new offense so. Time will tell which one of these guys is going to make the roster and we mentioned Ricardo Louis who the dolphins kept around or Mac Holland's who they picked up off waivers last year. WHO's a special teams? Maven I think he might have had almost had a touchdown pass against the jets, but ended up I. Think it might have been fitzpatrick overthrew him and another name. You have one. One here. Malcolm Perry who I believe. The dolphins have listed as a running back so I think we'll now compare. It brings a table at least out of those three. Maybe even you bring back Kirk. Meriden is four I think. Malcolm Perry's GonNa. Be Absolutely on this roster when when all is said and done because the dolphins show that they had that interest in a guy that can do. The taste hill type things they went after Kris traveler, the quarterback from Canada that ended up landed in Arizona. He had that skillset of tastes. I'm hill wasn't a great quarterback book. Go out there and bulldoze over defender, or you know, make plays in the passing game. Throw the football a little bit Malcolm Perry his navy. He's he's a guy who. Very very unique skill set and I'm excited to see what he can do in this offense because you know. They ran the wildcat last season. Kaelin Balaj Throw Malcolm, Perry on there, and that's a game changer. Is that any different than when the dolphins drafted Pat White second round and thought he could do things I mean you watch Malcolm Peiris film very similar players, so he's listed as running back, but he's absolutely gonNa make plays and he could do that in the slot, so this receiving core is loaded and the biggest thing to me. Is You know it's all about potential staying healthy, and just going out there and seizing the opportunity, and whichever one of these guys, especially later on the depth. Depth chart whichever one of those guys can step up and maybe they make a play in those two preseason games. You know that could be the difference between making the roster and landing on a practice squad, but again I don't truly know how roster's going to be set up with everything going on, and how many players are going to expand on or how practice squads are going to be viewed, but everyone of these players can make a case as to why they belong the opening day roster, and it's just going to be fascinating to see if this is a strong unit and you know the parkers and Williams and all those guys go out there. Stay healthy, improve their these upper-echelon wide receivers. Then which one of these guys you know, lower on the short can seize that opportunity to prove that they are the superstar. You Know Education Grant. Go out there and show that he's not just returner like he's saying that he can go out there and do the things that we all think he can do. It's it's very fascinating and I'm excited, but I'm also cautiously cautiously cautiously optimistic to see how things play out. Man That was I enjoyed that I didn't really WANNA ride too much about the those final. Guys feel like that's. There's some excitement regarding Malcolm Perry for sure. One Issue I. Think is fumbling issues, but seventh round pick I see a more is maybe a guy. They'RE GONNA try to US down the road. Maybe he's on the practice squad for a little while That's pretty much I. Have Their Matt. Thank you for joining US Buddy. You have any last thoughts. Go Dolphins like Joshua out said it's very cautiously optimistic, heading into the twenty twenty season with these guys, and it's boomer, bust and visit us, football dot com. There it is there as he's going to have an easy button. Sooner rather than later. Yeah, no, I think that's the thing. That's why we wanted this conversation. Because I saw that tweet. You said where where you know I forgot the exact wording, but it was basically like you know. The the four is is so low, but the ceiling is so high for this group and people really got you about how long this group already is Yada Yada and you know the potentials there by by again, you know. Know you new have guys who've been in the League for five years already talking about and we're still talking about potential. That's a bit concerning in terms of what they're to be able to do. And I think this is just going to be a real unique group to watch not only the season, but just how it unfolds going into next season. How many guys they draft? Do they go first-round? They draft a couple of guys you know. Know, I, it's really GonNa be interesting to see especially when you think back I mean the last two high picks I. Mean Kirkman Ron Devante, Parker first-round Pick Jarvis Landry third round pick you know, so. It's GonNa, be interesting to see how the dolphins decided to invest more at this type of position, but guys be sure to follow house and I on on twitter at each ut's e at J. mental thirty one and please please hit that. That subscribe button. Give us that by star rating it all helps us. Oh, so much just kind of build a strong podcast. You guys every week. Tell your friends about it. Maybe we'll even award. Why don't you guys who is giving? You is hitting us with that subscribed by more information on that coming soon. Is there last you want? Plug other than stripped the website? What? What's the article? Your most excited about on your website right now. We just released save three, twenty, twenty, one and at fell. Mock draft it's getting tens of thousands of US right now. It is number one ranking in Google search twenty-one NFL mock draft things to our SEO expert Tyler Olson. And check it out. The Dolphins have five selections in the First Round Twenty twenty one nfl mock draft in that mock draft Ian Cummings, our draft analyst over a PF N. Three sixty five dot com. Mocks a wide receiver to the dolphins and is not. Jomar chased. The name might surprise you, and then after that he goes all in on defense for the next several picks, dolphins will be able to move up and down the board as they see fit and twenty twenty one and we just gotTa. Texans bad year and that pick it gets a little bit higher. The dolphins can do there's Albans can do some nice damage and and stay tuned. We have an article coming out onto its hunger by Loa and the dolphins anticipated plans for him for the twenty twenty season. That will be published on Friday. Thank. You thank you so much for everyone taking your to listen nothing's are still not exactly where we want them to be Keep grinding. 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Dolphins Talk with Andy Simancas

The Phinsider

23:57 min | 3 years ago

Dolphins Talk with Andy Simancas

"What if all you're breaking news alerts had a voice what would that sound like it would sound like today? Explain its daily news podcast from vox. I'm Sean Ramos grim every day my team, and I take one essential news story, politics, two movies sports science, and we break it down into twenty minute episodes. Perfect for your ride home subscribed today. Explain on apple podcasts or wherever you listen from Stitcher, and the vox media podcast network. Miami. The ball. Colin. Matures to Andy Simancas would dolphins talk on the fence cider radio network. And boy do we have a lot to talk about including last week as matchup against the Chicago Bears. The latest regarding the dolphins injury report and much more. We start off. I hug about the Chicago Bears and the mammy dolphins football game as mammy dolphins defeated the Chicago Bears. Third you one to twenty eight Brock Osweiler received a phone call from head coach Adam gays informing him that he will be starting against the Chicago Bears as Ryan tannehill. What's eight lays scratch due to a shoulder injury. And is very weird. How this played out the reason why say that is because last week Wednesday. Ryan tannehill was at practice, and he practiced fully also on Thursday. He practice. I fully as well. And then last Friday the injury report came out indicating that Ryan tannehill was limited and then late Saturday night evening. There was a report from five sports network and also three yards per carry indicated I Ryan tannehill was listed as doubtful. And then on Sunday before the match up against the Chicago Bears. We are notify that Ryan tannehill was listed as how and Brock Osweiler will get the star. And let me tell you something this came out of left field piglet. The reason why I say that is Ryan tannehill practice on Wednesday. He also practiced on Thursday. And then Friday he was listed as limited and then late Saturday night evening. We get the report. Four. And then Sunday we find we find out that Ryan tannehill wasn't starting for your Miami Dolphins. So heading into this match up. There was a lot of concerns. Why why there was a lot of concerns was because the backup quarterback Brock Osweiler was going to start against the second rated overall defense in the NFL. So there was reason to be concerned polemic tell you something though, Miami Dolphins were able to get get the job done. Besides things happening. It's a part of the game. You're never going to get a complete game in the NFL. There's always going to be mistakes or errors. So these shows you that this mammy dolphins team was ready to buy. Title against the Chicago Bears. Is specially how before Dora talkable about. Oh Khalil Mack is going to have a field day with the mammy dolphins offense. A you know, why Khalil Mack? Despite an ankle injury that he suffered during the game that dolphins needed to get the job done. I tell you this dolphin fans and Finsider listeners. There's no reason that up that we should feel bad because the opposing defensive star player is injured is not our problem is not the Miami. Dolphins problem what they need to do is get the W because when it's all said and done the only thing that matters is the w the opposing team is not gonna feel bad because you don't have your star player. No. No. No. No. No. No. No, no, no where they are not gonna feel bad for. For the Miami Dolphins. And that's how we need to realize things we need to take under consideration. Because we're always coming up with his skew how to downgrade a great Miami Dolphins victory against a tough Trico bears team and his team just didn't want to give up. There is probably dolphins fans. I saying oh my God. Let's see what happens. The Chicago Bears have a twenty one to thirteen lead late in the third quarter. You have this Chicago Bears at the Miami Dolphins thirteen yard line. I saying goal and what happens interception by TJ McDonnell. This shows you that this Miami Dolphins football team is not gonna give up despite what the experts say. Despite what the fans might think this. Fine. What the opposing team does. And this dolphin team has just not gonna give up. We saw at one day. Fumble went Kenyan Drake had that foam Bill at the one yard line. This Miami offered folk bump team wasn't ready to give up. They understand that they lost Dhammika. Sue, they know that divorce Landry is no longer there. They know that Mike pouncey is no longer with the team. But this team this Miami Dolphins football team is just not going to give up and we saw that. They get the ball back after Cody parkey, former Miami Dolphins kicker miss a fifty three yard field goal wide you right? Who gave them AMI dolphins another opportunity and the mammy dolphins got the job done as they had a six play drive for twenty eight yard took a minute and fifty five seconds. Hands off the clock. The drive started at the mammy dolphin forty three yard line. You had Kenyan Drake first and ten gopher four yards and second and seeks at the Miami dolphin forty seven yard lines. You had Brock Osweiler throw a pass to Kenyan Drake for fifteen yards that put the football at the Chicago thirty eight yard line. And then with forty seconds remaining Kenyan Drake rush at first three yards and the Miami. Dolphins called a timeout with thirty three seconds remaining in overtime on second and seven the football at the Chicago. 35-yard-line Brock Osweiler connects with Danny amendola for six yards rookie kicker Jason, Sandra. From the university of New Mexico state kick a forty seven yard field goal. And it is good as the mammy dolphins defeated the Chicago Bears thirty one to two. Twenty eight we have a lot more to talk about including the latest Miami. Dolphins injury report why the dish in a wide receiver. Albert Wilson is making dolphin fans. Forget about former Miami Dolphins wide receiver. Joe Varas Landry and much more. This is dolphins. Talk with yours. Truly Andy Simancas on the fence cider radio network. And we're back with office talk on the Finsider radio network with yours truly NBC moncus. And we have a lot more to talk about including right now. We're going to talk about the latest mammy dolphins injury report wide receiver. Danny Amon Dollah appeared on the injury report as it would non injury related. He was limited on one day. But he was involved fully on Thursday and Friday. So his game status is ready to go defense event. Audrey branch knee injury. He was limited on Wednesday limited on Thursday. But he was evolved fully on Friday soul. Elusive like Andre branch will play on Sunday against Detroit Lions guard Jesse Davis elbow, but he was involving practice fully on Wednesday and Thursday and Friday. So Alissa QB ready to go tied-in AJ derby, and this is one particular situation because AJ derby is nursing a foot injury. But he was involving practice fully on Wednesday and Thursday Friday. He was listed as limited. So his game status is listed as questionable. Also, Frank gore. Running back non injury related was not involved in practice on Wednesday. But he did practice on Friday. So he is ready to go wide receiver too, keen grant shoulder slash hamstring was involved in practice fully on Wednesday Thursday and Friday. So he is ready to go for seven shows. Harry's calf injury did not practice Wednesday or Thursday or Friday. So he's listed. As out safety. Reshad Jones shoulder injury did get involved in project fully on Wednesday Thursday Friday. So he is ready to go. These necks four players. I'm gonna tell you about that their names appeared on the injury report goes as follow cornerback. Bobby McCain knee injury Wednesday. He was limited Thurdsay. He was limited. But on Friday he was a full goal. But he is listed as I told you before as questionable TJ McDonnell knee injury. He was involved in practice fully on Wednesday Thursday and Friday wide receiver. Devante Parker quad injury. He was involved in practice fully on Wednesday Thursday and Friday, of course, defensive end camera way. Knee injury. Limited on one's limited on Thursday. But Friday, he was a full go quarterback. Ryan tannehill. We all know what's going on. We Ryan tannehill. He was limited on Wednesday. Limited on Thursday limited on Friday. And he is listed as out defensive and Johnson. Woodward Kokoshin did not practice ones. Eight Thursday or Friday. So he is listed as out and that is the latest regarding the dolphins injury report. And let me tell you dolphins fans what a performance by y receiver Alber Wilson against the Chicago Bears. Six reception for one hundred fifty five yards and two touchdowns in my books to fern office. So far of the mammy dolphins received in a with the signing of wide receiver. Alber Wilson who is helping the Miami doff. Any way possible that performance against the Chicago Bears was amazing. And Wilson is being the difference maker right now offense at first we were asking ourselves. What should we expect from wide receiver Albert Wilson, especially with jabbar's Landry being traded to the Cleveland Browns? So with that being said right now, the Miami Dolphins fern office of Chris Greer and Mike Tannenbaum they receive an A P 'cause Auber Wilson is helping the Miami Dolphins any way possible. And especially on that big touchdown run is amazing. How he just got the football and went all the way down feel after miss tackles and more mistake os. And the Miami Dolphins guy a touchdown what? Now only one touchdown. They actually got two touchdowns from wide receiver Albert Wilson. So far Albert Wilson for this season has twenty three reception three hundred fifty nine yards and four touchdown. And if you look at his games this season so far for example in the game against the Oakland Raiders he has to reception for seventy four yards and a touchdown against the New York Jets. He had three receptions for thirty seven yards and one touchdown. So our Wilson is being heavily involved right now offensively for your Miami Dolphins. And you know, what this has to make head coach, Adam gay. His is stream -ly happy. We have a lot more things to talk about before the end of the show we have trade rumors regarding why receive on tape Parker. And I got more information regarding the we will be right back with dolphins talk with yours. Truly Andy Simancas on the Finsider radio network. Miami. We're back with office talk with yours truly Andy Simancas on the fence cider radio network. And now we turn the page as trae rumors become a reality for wide receiver. Devante Parker as there's a report came from NFL network indicating that the Miami Dolphins are receiving phone calls regarding wide receiver. Devante parker. And guess what? You know, what's the asking price for wide receiver? Devante Parker a third round draft pick. But other teens have decided not to give the mammy dolphins a draft pick being so high, and you know, what I don't blame other NFO teams because what has why receiver. Devante Parker shown you on the field. How many games has he miss? If it wasn't pick a finger injury is because. Now of the Kwoh-ting the patience with wide receiver to vaunted Parker is not a bowling point. It comes to time that you drafted. Devante parker. So high and one has he shown the mammy dolphins. What has he proven to the mammy dolphins fan base to believe in his abilities to make sure that he can become that number one wide receiver that one the mammy dolphins drafted him? They would lead them. He has not shown me anything. And now other NFL teams are catching up. They're noticing that. Devante Parker is not worth if they're round draft pick and they're not willing to give up a third round draft pick four to voluntary Parker. Let me tell you guys something it is sad because to vaunted Parker's causing is a good furniture mine he goes to my family's business, and I always speak to him regarding. Devante parker. I'm a big fan of. Devante parker. I w-. Want vantera Parker to be healthy and be on the field. But if is now one thing, and is another is my blowing that devante Parker. Canopic be on the field. Mine new vantera Parker is very talented. It upsets me that. Devante Parker is not able to show that office organization the dolphins fan base. Well, he's capable of. Because I believe the Fontaine Parker is capable of a lot of things. And you know, what that is showing that he is a playmaker. And he could become a playmaker on the field. And you know, how? Devante Parker Capri to the fan base and to the dolphins organization that they should keep him. And not treat him is going out this Sunday against Detroit lines and having a big game. Six perception seven receptions for let's say one thirty two touchdowns. Oh my God. You know, how much the fan base will be like. Wow. To vantera Parker. We know what? Devante Parker could bring to us. Now. The thing is to Vaughn t if you listen to this part of this podcast on the Finsider radio network. You have to be on the field. And no matter what if you don't get the opportunity when they do give you the opportunity Provea to that that the dolphins should keep you. We have a lot more to talk about including a preview of this. Sunday's matchup against a deterrent lines and much more. We'll be right back with dolphins. Talk with yours. Truly Andy Simancas on defense cider radio. From the ground. When you. Dolphins talk your to the Andy Simancas on the Finsider radio network. And now we turn the page, and we focus on the Detroit lines which is tomorrow. I cannot wait because why because the Miami Dolphins have an opportunity to start the season five and two. When was the last time that you said they you're Miami Dolphins started five and two despite the doubters this Miami Dolphins team has overcome adversity. No matter what injuries happen to their star players. No matter how many season ending injuries have occurred, Allah, Daniel Kilgore, Allah, Josh Sitton. It goes on and on and on. But this team has an opportunity to prove that doubters wrong and come out with a victory against the Detroit. Life. What is the key to victory auto you right now the way that the Miami Dolphins will be able to come out with a victory. Deter lines is that they have to run the ball. Once again last week and consists Chicago Bears you saw Frank gore. Rush for over a hundred yards. You also have to Kenyan Drake involve we need to establish a running game last weekend. We got a glimpse of that. With Frank gore rushing for over a hundred yards. I understand that some of that yardage was done at the end of the ball game. But he doesn't matter because when he needed to make a big play for your Miami Dolphins he did. And I applaud him for that. And this Sunday Brock Osweiler has to have another good performance. Off tell you this dolphins fan. If Brock Osweiler improves from last weekend's game against the Chicago Bears, laissez if he drilled for three touchdowns three touchdowns and one interception. That is positive for us. So we need Brock Brock Osweiler to be smart with the football. If he is martyr this weekend against the detour lines. Then he was against the Chicago Bears. It will be a positive for your Miami Dolphins. We know what his spoke with the defense. I believe the defense is gonna bring Iggy they're getting key players back and that is a positive for your Miami Dolphins. We talked a lot about on dolphins talk with yours. Truly Andy Simancas on the fence cider radio network. We talked about the game against the Chicago Bears. I gave you in for. Mation regarding the dolphins. Latest injury report. My thoughts regarding devante Parker and a preview of this. Sunday's matchup against Detroit lies did does it for today. For dolphins talk with yours. Truly Andy Simancas on the fence cider radio network. Tune in next weekend for the next episode of dolphins talk with yours. Truly also make sure to follow me on Twitter as moncus three. Oh, five for your latest. Miami. Dolphins news updates injury poor and much more. This does it for today's program. I appreciate your support until next time. Take care. Hello. I'm Spencer hall from Espy nation. And I wanna tell you about my new show. It seemed smart. 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Phinsider Radio: DeVante Parker, Josh Rosen vs. Ryan Fitzpatrick and Kenyan Drake vs. Kallen Ballage

The Phinsider

26:30 min | 2 years ago

Phinsider Radio: DeVante Parker, Josh Rosen vs. Ryan Fitzpatrick and Kenyan Drake vs. Kallen Ballage

"Radio pogo center dot com. Any Espy nation network? And now your host at you cannot joined by co-hosts Josh and Aaron inside, Hello, everybody, and welcome to Finsider radio. This is Mack cannot joined by Joshua out, our buddy. Aaron sign is off tonight. He is not feeling well or so he says, we're not sure if he's just experiencing the off-season blues or if he's really sick. That is another conversation to be had when he returns, obviously contact our HR department check on his policies, and make sure he does have sick days. Otherwise, we may be looking for a third host outs in the next few weeks. I remember those days making up excuses. Do better son. Come on, man. Honestly. They'll feel better. We miss you. And we're gonna kick ass either way we love. You sign feel better or make it sound like he's ill or something. And he's on his deathbed that deathbed. He's pride may have more kids with his wife getting pregnant or something. Price scheduled it on the calendar 'cause her ovaries or whatever populating, they held hands. And now. All right. The dolphins are wrapping up another OT session, and we're going to kick things off by talking about one of the greatest dolphins. Players of all time. One of the most sensational. Dolphins players of all time. One player who is always in the news when it when it comes to this and guy, that's always stealing the headlines and the highlight reel. And that is not devante Parker. And yes, all that I said is true, but with the caveat when it's time for OTA's because we all know over the past four, five years. Devante Parker has been the absolute star of OTA's, if they had a ring of honor for OT as devante Parker would be in its if they had a walk of fame for OT as devante Parker would be in it, if they have hall of fame for OTA's. Devante Parker would be a first ballot hall of Famer the problem is though as we all know as don't count in the regular season. And every year all of us say. Say is this, the year for devante Parker is this year, he finally breaks free and then the regular season begins and he's either injured? He's not getting the ball, he's not doing things to right way. What gives out Sino? You've been a big fan of devante Parker through this ta. TA miniseries that we've had the past few weeks. What are your thoughts on the man, the myth, the legend, and devante Parker? Yeah. Just throw it out there. I'm once midday fantasy trade in a standard keeper league I traded the hundred Hopkins. Arguably the best receiver in the NFL for devante Parker and Joe mixing end. Yes. It's a standard league. So I mean Joe mixing for Hopkins might not be terrible. But devante Parker is never lived up to his hype. Like you said he's always been his guy than not as east showing up. He's looking like the number one wide receiver in the games. Come on. And, you know, he has a lingering hamstring injury or stub this toe, and he wants to watch SpongeBob. Whatever may be. But this year does seem different. I mean he went out there after son is new contract. A lot of people didn't think he was going to get that opportunity here Miami. A lot of people don't want him to get that opportunity here Miami. But again, this is a guy who has all the potential had all the potential in college to be a true. Number one wide receiver you're starting to see these flashes during t- otas again. Yes, he's in shorts, but I mean that back shoulder one handed you try to grab one hand. They did the tote tap. I mean that that's what you wanna see. On game day was toe-tapping. You have to admit he was out amounts. I don't know. Did you did you see the comments because someone actually took a still frame in? Yes. Someone took a still frame it look. A lot of people were. Oh, yeah. He was out. Someone took a still frame. It looked like both feet reggae. Okay. I'm not going to pretend to be referee. But I mean that's the kind of stuff you wanna see on game day the dolphins desperately need a number one wide receiver. So if now's the time from to come on, I think we'd all be happy, but we need to temper expectations because again, they're in shorts. It's only the second week of OT as in and we've seen this before from devante Parker. Now, devante Parker has struggled, obviously, over the past few years since coming into the league as a first round pick selected by MAG Tannenbaum when he took over his basically, general manager devante Parker since the year twenty fifteen when he came to the NFL has not had aid receiving yardage season of over seven hundred forty four yards. That was in twenty sixteen when he played in fifteen games twenty fifteen played in fourteen games. 2017 played thirteen games. Twenty eighth and played in eleven games. Now, when you look at that dough like he has a sigma for being injured. But really is that much different than any other player in the NFL? Right. I mean twenty fifteen is rookie or fourteen games. There are a lot of players who at least one or two games, twenty sixteen fifteen games there are a lot of players missile east one game twenty seventeen thirteen games. There are a lot of players who has three games. Now twenty eighteen eleven games. I will give I will take that, you know, I will say, okay, five games is a lot. But the other three seasons I don't think it's a huge deal. I mean you a little queasy there were twenty seventeen with missing three games but twenty six missing one game two thousand fifteen missing two games. I don't think that's a huge issue. It's your shows that he can fight through it. So you know what gets me is this? Okay. So he had twenty six receptions year one fifty sixty sections year to fifty seven receptions year three twenty four receptions year four. Now, there is that game this past season where devante Parker absolutely lit it up and that was against the Houston Texans. And we've later found out he one hundred thirty four yards that game we later found out that it was more. So because he was being featured as a possible trade deadline target, which is just crazy in my opinion because. Okay. You have a guy he wants to trade away, you know, Adam gays and as he's doing in New York, just kinda messing up the entire place you have a guy who has this all this talent then you feature him on a short week and he absolutely balls out. And then. He doesn't really do anything the rest of the season. And this was after four days after he was a healthy scratch. Absolutely insane. So has it been just a case of the coaches not using devante Parker, the right way? Part of me feels like it is if you could feature him in the office and making your number one receiver and he has a fantastic game like he did against Texans. Why can't you do that? Every single week. I just don't get it. Yeah. I think a unique off those number games that he started in. I mean that's pretty surprising to me. I mean he has the stigma being this injury prone receiver and ran off those stats and aside from Nike that season where he had played in what a loving games. I mean he's been pretty consistent and you do have to look at the coaching staff, you have to look at Adam gates his track record. He's absolutely destroying the New York Jets, which is a great great thing. But Houston's defense is very, very good. In the devante Parker out there. And like you said he bawled out he like a true, number one wide receiver teams were somewhat interested in coming up on the trade deadline. I would if I was a Dallas, you know, you're. You're getting ready to give them more Cuban this huge contract. I if you're in Dallas issues what do you, not a wanted? Devante parker. I mean, I think he can have that similar skill set. No, he's not a more coupe right now. But there's still time for him to finally turn it on again. With a new coaching staff a New England style offense. I mean, the sky's limit for devante, but again, we need to temper expectations, but it's just it's just baffling that for all these years, we sit here and we talk bad about the onto poker. I mean, I at the beginning to show when we first started talking about mice talked about, you know, the to- injuries the hamstring injuries, you know, one watch SpongeBob didn't really seem to have that work at the who's to say it wasn't the coaching staff, who's to say, they're not at fault because we sold out get Adam gates did with the running backs. We saw underutilized our Wilson keen grant worth beginning last season. He's had this stigma about him where he just thinks he's knows everything. And he thinks that he's better than everyone in has this. This Aurora about Neil where he thinks that he is Mr. Nobel. And we realize now that Adam gates is not that, man, Adam gates has false like everyone else in maybe his faults even more of more than what we have. But at the end of the day, I think devante Parker still has time to develop into a number one receiver I think, in this offense with these weapons around the, you know, you're bringing Ryan Fitzpatrick, who at times, says, you know what screw on this throws football up. Let my guy will there make a play. So I'm with Mike Evans last season. There's no reason why devante Parker can't be a Mike Evans. I think the sky's the limit form. I think I, I am one of the few people might say here in continue to defend him. I know last season. I'm gonna do it again this season. These young players all it takes the right. Coaching staff for these guys, turn it on. That's the reason they should give Charles Harrison knob between this year. You know, a lot of people down on him. But who's to say he's not gonna turn on. So I don't think the, the story has been written on devante Parker by do think he's on a short leash and now his time to ball out if you can go out there and do the stuff on Sundays of the mind. Dolphins a lot better off the New Orleans season. You said, devante Parker can be like Mike Evans. You believe this? I mean I'm fantasy guy you know, I'm pretty big on that. And if you look at Mike Evans production if fluctuates year one year is up when you're down when you're when you're down. So you got a guy who was number one receiver averages about thousand yards a season as had, I mean James Winston, however you feel about him. Ryan fitzpatrick. However you feel about him. I think that with the right coaching staff in this offense. I mean you got other weapons out they got Kenny stills you can take the top off defenses. You've got those, those quick twitchy receivers underneath, like Albert Wilson keen, drain. You got these guys make plays underneath why can't devante Parker and single coverage on the outside up there. Make plays. I mean, again Adam gates offense. I don't think that should be an outlier for what Demonte Parker is. I think he still has potential and I'll say now. Okay. He can be the Miami Dolphins Mike Evans. I'm gonna kill for that. But, but. Yeah. Why not get killed for that because he no or close to my? Evans. Yet, does he have the potential. Maybe the dolphin used using the right way. I'm hoping that Chatto shea. We know Adam gates that like to have a number one race neither to Joe Philbin really odd you like to spread the ball around and I feel like you look at some of the best offenses in the league, they have that primary guy, they can go to in crunch time. Right. They have that guy, they can lean on count on when they need it the most and the dolphins have never had that. And maybe Parker can be that guy. Maybe he can be that guy if he has featured in the office as often as such and has the confidence to go out and do what he needs to do. We'll see. We'll see what happens this coming season. He's in a contract year, which also makes you a little hesitant and one. You know, you, you wanna see those guys before, not in a contract year because their motivation could slowly be money than they get their big contract. And they just go back to being the way they used to be we'll see though, what we don't know also and what we need to see is, who is going to be throwing the ball to devante Parker. Is it going to be Ryan Fitzpatrick? And if so, I think they're going to ball out this year, those two or is it going to be Josh Rosen, a guy who is, you know, has a nice deep ball. But more is that possession kind of guide type quarterback where he's throwing it to the receiver, by the way. I've had discussions over the past week about how to say quarterback and here we go quarterback that I say it, right. Can you do over time? I need to I need to hear it quarterback damn you got it. I got it. You can say quarterback you can finally say quarterback is an amazing day starts radio. I'm going to start saying quarterback just piss everyone off because someone should I'm going. Oh, no more. No more quarterback from me. It's quarterback. We got this fam-. Okay. Took you what thirty some years, proud suck me. Thirty two hold of my thirty two thirty three on. You know how old I am. I was born in eighty six. So let me take out my calculator. Twenty nineteen minus nineteen eighty six and three. I think holy oaths got over. It makes you feel good. I'm gonna be thirty three in September. I am old f that's not that old now. It's not that old but. Yeah. If you're in the NFL, you be old shit ready to retire right now my Kirby over. Yeah. So Josh Rosen he's more of a guy who likes throw it in the middle of the field. So I don't know if he's going to be the best quarterback for devante Parker. He might be, but I think it's Patrick will be better but even this whole quarterback competition right now, right? It's getting all the ones in OT as and stuff. He's starting with the ones you got rose in hanging out with the backups and doing the second thirteen guys. And, you know, is it all the show right now is at all charade is saying, okay, we may Josh Rosen earned the starting job. We're not just going to hand it to him. You have to feel for Ryan. It's patchy the guy comes in. He's bouncing around all throughout the NFL. He looked at his opportunities around the NFL. So Miami did not have a legitimate starting quarterback said, okay, I'm gonna come in another chance to start an enduring the draft trade for Josh Rosen, he knows that nothing is guaranteed in the NFL. He knows the NFL is a business. He understands it. He will never be a fulltime starting quarterback in the NFL but, you know, just human nature. You gotta feel bad for the guy nonetheless, though, that all do was right. For the organization and the team in the right thing to do. No matter what no matter how anybody looks in training camp. Awro TA's is Josh Rosen week one wannabes that is the whole purpose of the seasons figure out if Josh Rosen is starting quarterback moving forward. And he's quarterback of the future because if you have all that in place, leading up to the twenty twenty draft coming live to you from Las Vegas Nevada, then you could use all of your draft picks your treasure chose draft picks to then surround the team surround Josh Rosen with compliments of skill players both on the offense of decent defensive side of the ball if not then you have to use those picks, depending on what your record is to train up for a quarterback possibly or stamp put draft a court Rebecca, and then use those extra picks to draft the team around your new quarterback, hopefully you fall along there. But anyways, the bottom line is this, you need to start Josh Rosen week one, no matter how he looks training, camp and OTA's. And yes, that's going to hurt for Ryan Fitzpatrick. And he's kinda hinted as such that he understands that may not be a fair quarterback competition. But for me, that's just the way the NFL go was the dolphins. Don't know what they haven't Josh Rosen by the end of the season. They have failed as a coaching staff. And as an organization to really get this team on the right track in the right direction. What are your thoughts? I don't think yo- anything with thirty six year old guy news impasse around from team to team at times. His looks great at times. He doesn't he came down here to Miami. Known was the quarterback competition. But I think I'm in the minority. No, because the Miami Dolphins really don't have to go out there and start trashing from day one. I know I'll get killed for that just like a willow. Devante Parker take but the dolphins buys in week five and we know the way Ryan Fitzpatrick plays, he's probably two or three games like crap. And that would be the perfect time, you know, over that by to get Josh Rosen ready to go the play the rest of the season. I mean you're alternate goals to find out whether or not he is the starting quarterback of the future. So from week, five onto week seventeen. I mean he has the potential to go out there and show you what he can do. I think if it is a true competition, it's really gonna come down to the wire. Ryan Fitzpatrick is every bit of chances Josh Rosen. But then the play devil's advocate. I mean, Josh Rosen is the guy you just give a second fifth round pick for if he's potential franchise quarterback that I think he is that we think he isn't, we've talked about this the last year, you know, we talked about leading up to last year's draft. We talked about it leading up to this year's draft, you know, about the potential trade. I mean, we think Josh Rosen and be a franchise caliber quarterback at the top three quarterback into two thousand eighteen draft. So I do think the potentials there if he is that good if he is the future of this franchise, there is no reason why he cannot put a thirty six year quarterback into his grave, you know, sort of speak make him the backup make him your backup, go out there. Take this offense by the nuts and show that you are franchise quarterback. I think Josh Rosen is going to be, you know, our our savior. You know the quarterback that this team has long urine force since Dan Marino, retired. If he is that potential potential quarterback than he has to be Ryan Fitzpatrick, and he has to be started day one. I mean, I think there's no other way to look at it. But at the. Same time if Ryan Fitzpatrick does beat him out, I think sooner than later, Josh Rosen will get his chance at the end of the day. All you wanna do in two thousand nineteen is obviously C growth in your young players watches team developed throughout the weeks. But if you can get a good evaluation, Josh Rosen head into that twenty twenty draft. When you said they have a plethora picks. The twenty twenty draft has four or five franchise quarterbacks that many people would have probably taken over half the quarterback selected in the first round this year. So I think you have to get that evaluation. But again, Josh Rosen should absolutely be at Ryan Fitzpatrick, if he is what we think he is now we also need to figure out who their went to be handing out the ball to and there was a big argument on dolphins Twitter on Thursday morning about Kaelin Balaj and Kenyan Drake and. I know how it's you're pretty involved. In that I think you actually may have started it. So why don't you just lead us into that? Yet. I say some outlandish things on Twitter, try to have fun and say, some things on Finsider radio too. Yeah. It's kind of just who I am. But I try to get ruffled some feathers and try to make light of situations. You know, I said that I wish Twitter make a update their app. So I reached my hand through their computer and slept. Yes, slapped a crap out of people at symbolize is better than Drake. I mean to me, you can have both running backs you know, Balaj thunder Drake's the lightning, but and also be that runner inside the tackles. I don't think that's what's best for him. But I mean Kenyon, Drake average seven and a half touch carries last year as a running back. Yes, he made plays in the receiving game you know, he is a pass catcher out of the backfield. I think he does that a lot better than Balaj. But there's no reason why both these guys can't get their their do next season or this coming season but I think Kenyan Drake. I mean you owe to him. I mean yes is New England style offense. Yes, we know what they do up there, you know, Sony, Michelle James white Rex Burkhead, you know, the list goes on and on. They, they give their they make they find ways to get the ball in those guys hands. But Sony, Michelle had a heck of a lot of touches towards the end of the year. You know he was that Bill cow. And there's no reason why Kenyan Drake can't get fifteen plus carries and five or six receptions every game. And I think that's in this coaching staffs best interest in offers dome. It sounds I mean who were the two jerseys at this team leaked. They showed the showed everyone white throwbacks got everyone's super excited. There were two jerseys leaked one was making its Patrick who was. You know, hands down the future of this defense, you know, I think he can be better than existing Howard there. There's another hot take. I think he's going to be the best player on this defense for many, many years. And, you know, they sent they showed history that was the first one you get who is the other one Kenyan Drake. You see their official Twitter account. You know, tweet out Kenyan Drake stuff, you know, he went out there and said, I don't care how many carries I get as long as the team gets wins, is what you wanna hear from your franchise running back. I mean I know he's coming up on a new contract. I know running backs do not get a now a days, but this isn't a good seems to be Jj I who thinks he's worth top five running back money just to have his bone on bone knee explode. So, I think Kenyan Drake deserves touches personally. I'm gonna stay away from fantasy football in a mistake from all these running backs again. If you're fancy football avoid the dolphins backfield like the plague, but I do think Kenyan Drake has that potential to be three down running back, but you don't need him to be. Because again, you got Kaylynn Balaj, yum, more won't possibly. No, you got Kenneth Farrow. You got miles Gaskin you got these other guys that can get touches? But I think. Drake should be the focal point of that running back room and anyone thinks Kaelin Balaj, a better running back because, you know, he came out the of OTA's with his shirt sleeves rolled up and you saw some Danes in his arms. I mean that's just dumb. I I don't think he's the dolphins halfback one, I think that's I think that's Kenyan Drake. And I think he deserves his load this season. I feel like the dolphins back goes going to be just like the patriots backfield. You never know who's wing at the ball, win and ino in the patriots backfield's. Yes. Sunny Michelle was kind of the lead back. But really, they spread it out a lot. And I do believe that Kenyan Drake. And Caitlyn Balaj will both get their fair share carries? Very rarely do in the NFL these days a one running back show. Right. There are very few exceptions to that rule. Mult many of them go to the two running back. So for me. This is a non non conversation by Disney to address it. So it was a hot topic mongo's dolphins Twitter when you say. Starting running back. It doesn't mean anything to me. That's just me. Yeah. Even in years past. We did not have this New England coaching staff who has, you know, history shows that that's the way they feed their running backs. I mean, we haven't had that, and they still done the same thing. Frank gorse corpse got how many he got a bulk of the carries last year? He was the, the dolphins number one running back when you look at the carries but statistically know yet one touchdown to Kennedy Drake's. What nine I just don't see why they won't spread it out when they have that many mouths that, can I mean, miles gas needs a seventh-round pick? And this guy has got explosive potential that I think this coaching staff gonna utilize more Walton broke free of a frigging tasers. Do you know the cups try to this guy, and he ripped it off and just kept running? I mean those, those are the kind of guys you give carries to regardless of who your star is. So as much as I love Kenyan Drake as much as I think he is the best running back on the roster. There's going to be other mouths to feed. And I think this coaching staff has shown assuming that they're bringing that New England style offense which we all think they are that same metality and you just look around the NFL. I mean every. Every team is doing this. You know, maybe Zeke Elliott is the is the, you know, the unicorn of the bunch maybe sa- Kwame Barkley, but most teams are feeding multiple runningback. So it's going to happen. It's bound to happen. But when you put Kalem Balaj verse Kenny Kenyan Drake, it's going to Kenyan Drake every time for me. Yep. Absolutely. Anything else before the show. No, man. I just wanna say something hope he better. Yeah. Only make things at pro football network. We're going to send a fruit basket. I gotta give shout the pro football network. Things are, you know, businesses boom. And we just said, Tony Pauline big things are coming. So if you're not following pro football network, get on that now fantasies getting ready to drop gambling's, yet, drop everyday people reaching out trying to become part of this network. A big things are coming, but for all your mind. Dolphins coverage keep it here at the Finsider. Keep listening to us at finsihed radio because, you know, the Miami Dolphins may not be a, you know, all these analysts are sitting it's the worst team in football. I don't see that. I think you got these guys with TOA as their as our Twitter. Abby, that's not gonna happen guys. I don't care if it's Ryan Patrick, Josh Rosen, we can get over this tank stuff. Look at those other quarterbacks in the first round if you want a quarterback because you're not getting the first pick, no matter how bad is team is the Cincinnati Bengals are worse. The New York Giants are worse. There's other teams that are worse in the Miami doll. Enjoy the season. You know, don't sit there and root for losses. Hope the Josh Rosen guy because like you said, there's a treasure trove of picks next year hundred twenty plus million dollars cap space to two picks in the second third fourth and fifth round. I mean, why would you not want Josh Rosen to be that starting quarterback so you can use those picks to build around and be a real contender twenty twenty? It just doesn't make sense to me. Enjoy football. Enjoy the off season. Honestly, because in couple months, we're going to be very angry very sad and go dolphins. You couldn't have set any better, my friend, that's going to do it for us here on a Finsider radio four Joshua house. I cannot thank you for listening. We will talk to you next time. Radio part of fit cider dot com and the SP nation network. The ball for the goal. I know. Where in the on the ground? Always. Any your? With. The greatest. From? On the Brown. 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Miami Dolphins (Phinsider Radio) Ryan Fitzpatrick talks Tua, DeVante Parker vs Michael Thomas, and the three most important players in 2020

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Miami Dolphins (Phinsider Radio) Ryan Fitzpatrick talks Tua, DeVante Parker vs Michael Thomas, and the three most important players in 2020

"Every Wednesday on fish drive. Join Me Eric. Goes for a full report. On the Miami marlins singly filial. The Clinton Lumber Kings on eight ball with Eric owes we sit down each week with the different prospect. That is part of the violence rebuild and discussed the development of players trends and performances of Miami's Midwest League affiliate listen to Abe law with Eric goes every Wednesday on fish rights. Sun Is Shining Spring. Is here welcome into the fence outlet radio. This is the J. Josh. Oh my name is Jake Mendel and I enjoined by the one the only every single week you can find him right here if he's not here he's probably on twitter. Joshua how today buddy. I'm doing great man like I said I just got back from a walk with my wife and two kids of skateboarding while pushing her car so she fell asleep and I thought was the perfect record. This podcast how're you doing today man? I'm good good. I mean so so you're adding another meaning to the Song kicking push right is that is that basically. What's happening there yet? That's what happening it gets. It gets dicey because I don't know if you've ever skateboard but any small rocker cracked could could be life or death in. I've stumbled upon some instances where I almost went down and that was a little scary so I'm GonNa have to buy our helmet. Yeah no I'm definitely not coordinated enough for that before we jump into some of the topics we're GonNa talk about which includes Ryan Fitzpatrick talking about to some of the most important players. We think that the dolphins will need in terms of success in the twenty season. And so devante Parker Michael Thomas Speed before we give you a bunch of the rundown on that stuff. Please hit with that. Subscribe his with that review. It helps out so much. We can't thank you enough If you don't like her takes still five-star just yell at us we know. We embraced yelling at on twitter. Josh over J Mendel. Ninety four football season. Let's talk about it. Josh I think I see highlights about the Miami Dolphins season and I always joke about how the dolphin social media accounts how they kind of beat the pass over the head and you know you can make argument while you know. There hasn't been a lot to celebrate but man would ever see Ryan Fitzpatrick highlights of the twenty nineteen season and what he's doing scrambling around. He's never got any help. He's just throwing your prayers day Parker who I believe there's Excuse me statistics that came out today. That said that he had the most touchdowns on go roots. Which is you know literally go. I think those four and just there was a lot of things he did in that twenty nine hundred season where we're GonNa Watch those highlights for years to come and kind of forget how much help he didn't have you know. Some of those passengers. Devante Parker did come on like a fourth down. Did come when he had pressure over him. I remember seeing you know dirt over his Jersey's every week us beaten bruised but when we look at those Ryan Patrick highlights at and what he meant for the team in twenty nineteen You know a lot of people tanking anti taking in reality. I wanted a fun season right and something to cheer about a couple exciting weeks be able to give somebody so different teams golf and Ryan Fitzpatrick really provided that for us. And he's GonNa step further. I mean he signed that two year deal and everyone was kind of you know this was the year. We'd get a quarterback and Kinda put Patrick in on the after burner the Stove. They ignore them. He was gonna be the Bernie Mac and cheese and no one would ever eat. However that really hasn't been the case I he was on Eric Woods. What's next podcast? And what was actually Fitzpatrick Center for a little bit. So obviously they have that bond and you really know about two and really really kind of mentioned supporting him while still competing start of. This is what he had to say. Those things bringing a new guy. Is that you always. I always trying to impress right away on these guys. I hear again zero ego. I have so much knowledge. I've made so many mistakes in this league in terms of dumb decisions throws I've learned how to prepare. I've learned how much about I've learned so much. Excuse me about different offenses. In the way they operate ask questions like open book. Asked me whatever you want and sometimes up to the guy courage at word yet. Have the courage to comment ask questions. And that's only a little bit of it and we'll get into the rest soon but you kind of look what. The dolphins did with Josh Rosen. Last year I think that's awesome way to start because before they signed up for the traded. Jaffer on second pick. They did sign Fitzpatrick. And I think they knew all along that fitzpatrick be such a great guy. Because you gotta look at it two ways. I mean there's some quarterbacks stunned the market right now especially look at Cam Newton who deserves starting jobs and they deserve to compete for those. But someone like Patrick. I mean it's just you look at that chemistry. Look at him saying things like this and you have to say that he did the same thing for Rosen. Lashari the rose and brought it up. I think when they were going back and forth for that starting job especially during the season you saw that. Kinda chemistry grow between the two quarterbacks where they were competing against each other sure but they never used that against each other and I think that is so important when we look at some unlike to tackle coming in and if you want him to come in and start six games you're going to have to work for and that's what we want. That is most certainly whatever. Yeah and you mentioned his highlights. What he did last year behind the thirty second ranked offensive. Line is nothing short of spectacular. He says he's here. You know I will be an open book to this rookie. But he needs to realize that I'm still here. And I'm still competing and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Wouldn't it be playing in two thousand twenty or expected to play in two twenty twenty if he didn't think that he was going to compete for that starting job? So we know. A lot of things are going to be dictated by. What's going on in the world? But there's going to be a most likely a quarterback competition between Ryan Fitzpatrick and Josh Rosen. It's something that Brian Floors is preached in the past. You know the best player will play. I don't know if to it's envelope will pick up that offense the way Ryan Fitzpatrick. Has You know he's been in this the NFL fifteen years. He's played for eight different teams. He had one of his best seasons with Chan Gailey. So there's a lot of familiarity there but I mentioned it today on twitter. I mean there's no better player to learn from than Ryan Fitzpatrick. He's had the good. He's had the bad. He's had the ugly. We know we see the circle. Goes AROUND ON TWITTER. Where you know. He has a great game signed. A huge contract. Plays bad gets Has a great game. You know the endless cycle that we're seeing with Ryan Fitzpatrick but things just seem different last year and it was his ability to manipulate the pocket. And just make plays when everything around him seem to break down. The Guy led the team in rushing. He had four or five rushing touchdowns. It was spectacular. And I'm excited to see the way that he meshes with two time because we heard it back in the Super Bowl you know. He said I'm going to. I have no problem mentoring to a ton of a low end. You look at throughout. Nfl history and the best quarterbacks had that mentor. Some hit the ground running. But most of them don't I think to it's going to succeed by just picking Ryan Fitzpatrick Sprain and based on what we've heard you know. He's not going to have any issues doing that. So it's a great quarterback room excited to see how things develop and you just love to hear this Ryan Fitzpatrick so i WanNa pass along all these experiences and lessons and things that I've learned to younger guys because when I come in I had the same thing I had guys that and showed me the way. I'm really excited. I'm excited that they drafted him. I'm excited because I'm watching him. Played Alabama. He looks like a dynamic town just in meeting him a few times. He seems like an unbelievable kid. Greyhound shoulders says all the right things wants to do the right thing so link for me. I'm his biggest cheerleader right now but I also want to be out there playing. I also WANNA be on the field and that is why. I'm still doing it because I still enjoy the game. Hopefully some of the lessons unable to teach him are from watching me. But if it's other way round do my best to help him succeed in the best way I can. That is that if they doesn't set him up for another three at least three years in a starting era competing for a starting gig on Miami somewhere else men. I would love this guy and my staff. I think this is such a guy love to see him. Running out onto the field. After touchdown doing those cool motions. He does just yelling into the atmosphere. Basically like Ryan for his. Does these guys on. The same sideline would be the most energetic staff. I think I've ever seen in my entire life and that itself would be fun. I think when we look at this quarterback room it is something we haven't seen in Miami for a very very long common. That is a very open competition. I mean we could say the cutler year he headed all by himself one of the biggest knocks. Ten years was that he never really had that other guy really pushing him and even though you know you kind of think about Matt Moore coming in and having a few spot starts I think when we tend to transition here and I was trying to think of some of the most important players for the twenty twenty season and this can change so much and this could be much longer debate but I think you have to put Ryan Fitzpatrick on that list. Not necessarily that. He's GonNa come out and lead the team to the playoffs but hey maybe plays well which isn't a bad thing. You kind of think about The the competition. Last year with Rosen. Where they come to flip flopping times Four is even I think the worst thing he said all you that bothered me is when he came out and said Rosen as the starter for the rest of the year. Only sift feeling absolutes so he really didn't have to say that just to kind of flip at the next couple of but it if it's patchy comes out and plays well not only are the dolphins going to be exciting to watch but fits To was going to be behind him learning from there. And if it's Patrick doesn't play well. He stumbles out of the gate. And we see to will maybe week four week. Five which I think is more possible than some people may believe that is also. I don't think the worst case scenario because I think it'd be so interesting to see that fits. Patrick grow in that dynamic from the coaching standpoint and those conversations between two a fitzpatrick get some great quotes from one side of the other about trying to learn from the other guy which I think would be a really really interesting to to watch you brought up to Fitzpatrick leading the team in rushing. I think to is mobility is. I don't I don't want to say to isn't necessarily a running quarterback but that pocket present presents. He's he brings. I think he can also learn a lot from Patrick in that. Sense because Ryan Fitzpatrick wasn't going out and naked bootlegs. Running the ball right. He was scanning. Oh I'M IN TROUBLE. I gotTA run. It was making those smart decisions and I think that just watching the Patrick Film from last season obviously not the head on head collisions into the adds up. It's Patrick doing at what thirty six years old. But just kind of giving on the the the rookie. The idea of Hey. You don't have to be scared of running. Just have to be smart about running and I think that is going to be so important where fitzpatrick becomes one of those key. Figures from the twenty twenty season even if it isn't necessarily winding up the scorebook house will have here as know just a little talking point. I Austin Jackson in one of the most important players for twenty twenty of us a first round pick. I mean there was opportunities for dolphins smooth round in the strap yes they quote unquote got a lot of value. And I was Kinda hoping they wouldn't move through too much but I don't need them to come in and be Laremy Tunsil but you wanna come in and see some sort of idea or get this image of how he was a first round pick and I think that is so important here before I give my last. I do KINDA WANNA get a couple from you because I feel like I've been renting a little bit here and I know that it's hard to do with a hard to stop talking when you're talking Ryan Fitzpatrick because it goes on forever but both let me get some fall from me dash man. I think the biggest thing is you mentioned this team being fun. And how long has IT BEEN SINCE MIAMI? Dolphins have been viewed as fun. I mean this is an exciting team. They're young. I believe it was our good pal. Brian Bernie threw out there again. Then we mentioned last week. That no-one on this roster over thirty except for Ryan Fitzpatrick what he brings that quarterback room. It's just things that you can't even you know. No resume can equate to what he the knowledge that he's experienced and you mentioned his mobility. I mean that was the biggest key. Last season was as dreadful at offense online was Ryan. Fitzpatrick turned chicken. Shit and the chicken salad and it was impressive so I think to learn. I don't think that either of US can sit here and say you know. We mentioned a quarterback competition. It's a competition by default. Because Brian floors himself has said he wants to see the best player play. He wants to see. These guys compete each and every day and then wants to play those guys that you know exceed expectations can hit the ground running absolutely as he that pro. That generational talent. If he's healthy that many people believe he can be absolutely. I think he immediately steps on that field with those pads on. He is the most talented quarterback in that room. But that doesn't sometimes talent. Isn't you know it's not quite not quite ready to go out there and to start right away in my opinion? So I think it's going to be Ryan Fitzpatrick as the starter. He's going to have a short leash and I do think you're right. A lot of people are underestimating. How soon we could see to little some people writing articles that he should redshirt the entire season. I mean you don't invest a fifth overall. Pick you don't have guy at is a superstar and whether you whether you like it or not. I mean he is a superstar. We talk about his Jersey sales. I mean they already sold out a throwback jerseys they it was like the day after they released them. They sold out of these things. The fan base has never been this excited for a player in history. I mean I wasn't alive for Dan Marino I can bet based on whatever you've heard from experts and analysts that it did not impact the franchise anywhere near you know from that at first when he was drafted the way this thing it started. I mean when the record books are a damn Rosa greatest quarterback of all time. You know. There's no comparison there but with two has brought life to this franchise to this fan base this organization it. It's insane to think about and you know a lot of that is going to. It's going to wail on his shoulders. You know he doesn't seem to be that guy he played fella Bam. He's not that guy that takes this huge workload or you know has he's crazy this understand that he has to be you know above and beyond that Superhero and that was his mentality. Alabama needs to come in here and just learn that you know it's okay to to slide. It's okay to throw the football way. It's okay to to not make mistakes so for me. You mentioned Fitzpatrick Jackson. I'M GONNA throw a ton of our lowest Cruzi. You Know How easy that to player twenty twenty two a ton of I lo- Yes to pick up the offense. He has to prove that he can stay healthy and when he does get his opportunity to go out there and win football game. Siesta proved you know he isn't going to make those same mistakes that he he's not gonNA hold onto the football too long and take those unnecessary hits. Because he doesn't have to he he needs to to live and fight another day and go out there on the next play. Make Things Happen. The other guy. I'M GONNA throw out there is Bobby McCain and this is a guy that seems like the coaching staff thinks the world of we know again. We talk about on previous shows when he was in when he was playing nickel he was. He was so good that they gave this new contract. And whether that was because the front office was you know who they were and they just made poor decisions I don't know but Bobby McCain needs to go out there and prove that he is a piece in that secondary because that's secondary. The expectations are huge for them. They got Byron Jones they had been Howard they invested a the thirtieth overall pick and Guinea Nang up McCain Eric Flowers back. Eric Rollback their excuse me the world. This entire defense depends on how good that secondary can be because they brought in pieces from but they didn't make those splashy moves like dating cloudy. They didn't trade for Yanic Nagoya. They didn't make those they didn't bring in those high prolific pass rushers. They brought in a shack loss. Who signed a moderate deal they brought in Emanuel Egbo signed a modern deal? They're expecting that secondary to latch down on those receivers and allow those players front to schematics. Get to the quarterback so for me. It's a ton of a low because you know it's to atone by the and then Bobby McCain. Because he's making a lot of money the expectations when he moved to safety You know they were there. They were a little bit man. I don't think that he showed enough last year. That the team that the dolphins should have avoid position like they did. They brought him Brandon Brandon Jones. Which I think. The dolphins think very highly of him but I need to see a lot from by McCain. Twenty twenty absolutely. I think that that secondary is going to be an interesting story and this is going to be a year. We really start to see. What kind of Defensive Mind Bryant floors is right like we can kind of say we can sit back and say the last year he definitely overachieved but I mean if you okay chief on a zero and get a three. That's different than you know. Having the four. Be a eight and wanting to get to a tent right because coaching can do that. Coaching is really that difference maker. So my my third guy who I think is really important. Is someone the Cow Vandort? Who May on everything I've read and based on what we're seeing. I think he is going to be. The Brian Floor is out in the field for kind of a Wacko but better terms. This is a guy the dolphins really invested in and we snow Y. I mean he's just a unique player he can kind of do a bit of everything and we just can't see defense. Really start to fall apart again. This is Brian for his is put together. This is his defense. I mean you bring in you see what the NFL is doing what offensive. Coordinator's jumping ahead coaches at eight thirty and things like that because people want the offensively set in stone for years and years and years. We really need to start to see with how much the dolphins invested into this unit. We really need to see that picture. Really start to come to life. And that's why I think Van. Noy is so important because if van. Noy I feel has rough season. I think this defense as a whole isn't going to be really what we should be expecting at a brand for us. Hi I'm Arial Jim. Ross host of the PODCAST resets. And I'm here to tell you about some of the stories. We're following on reset this month stories about how were adapting to the pandemic with a little help from technology and science like what does teach him look like right. Now I can tell you. There's teachers right now. Who have been conducting their phone calls and check INS with students from random parking. Lots just anywhere that you can get. Wi Fi in for folks who can work from home. How is that working out now? It's my whole life is conducted via this Internet connection. The pandemic is even changed. What you might think of pressures? The preference were at home not going to costco and waiting in line for twelve hours standing next to a bunch of other sick people. So if you want to understand the new normal. How Science and technology are shaping the way we live during the pandemic. Listen to reset subscribe for free on Apple podcasts. Spotify or your favorite podcast APP later nerds. We mentioned you know what Ryan Fitzpatrick. How well-versed he is enchanted fence Annoy knows Brian Floors. Defense to a T. So does Landon Robertson. They can you know off a little bit of that information to some of these younger players. Some of these guys might have been there one year. Maybe they didn't take that next step like some people thought like a drone Baker. Maybe Calvin going to on defense absolutely and I think based on interviews based on just you know what he's going to mean to that team. That isn't exciting. Pick for me. I won't back to the offensive line and I wanted to go with Rodney Hump but I didn't. Because like Austin Jackson. I think those are two young players that they need to go out there and take their lumps before they can. Truly you know understand what. Their potential isn't truly. Get a grasp with the game. Like any of these rookies but for me. It's Eric Flowers son a three year. Thirty million dollar contract we know by many dolphins wanted to go after Giovanni the they gave him that big franchise tag. Dolphins couldn't really compete there. Then he kind of backtracked went after air flowers flowers dreadful as left tackle moved inside. Guard play pretty well. Dolphins game a three or thirty million dollar contract. This is a guy that needs to not only improve days worth that money but proved that he can be a stable part of that offense align which again was absolutely atrocious last season and the dolphins they made some of these moves at running back they brought in Jordan Howard. A map really didn't make that splashy. Sonnen like some people might think but it all depends on the offensive line. And you know I mentioned as you get older you start to realize how important the trenches are just as important as the defensive line is the offensive line is even more important. They gotTa Keep The quarterback upright. They gotta make those passing lanes for the quarterback to success. It got opened up those holes for the run game. So I'm I'm a little bit hesitant. I excited to see these pieces. Come together. The dolphins brought in on the offensive line. But at the same time. I'm scared because of history repeats itself. The dolphins are have been atrocious at developing offense line town and finding ways to fill that gap. So it's one of those things where I think our flowers needs to step up because he's getting paid to be that guy. Yeah and I think it's important to say to when I mentioned Austin Jackson. I don't expect him to you. Know or Setting the bar at like Laremy Tunsil level. What I'm trying to get a is just that spark we see that all right we get. Why the dolphins made this move. Maybe a couple habits a here there. Obviously he's GonNa get be things like that but air farmers makes a Lotta sense because one thing I've griped about the last couple of years and it's really not a huge deal we're nitpicking. I mean it's the middle while spring here but that's kind of the point of this is just something to talk about is where the dolphins have made some cuts with guys that maybe they could've kept. Maybe how much money do you need to have a cap right in the sense of? Do we really need to roll over? Twenty eight million dollars compared to twenty three million worth to cut that one guy for five million dollars and I kind of look at Daniel Kilgore as that you know. That guy took his lumps amino he dealt with injuries but he was the leader of that offense ivine. You always said the right. Things seemed like that veteran who was not only their best player but but really stable for the season so you need someone to step into that role in time to be that. Voice of they unit. 'cause they are going to struggle. They're going to be some gains. You need someone to really come out and really take a blog a way. Manson the hard questions and I think Eric Farmers could do that. The veteran who you know struggle at left tackle being more little more accepting now moves inside to guard maybe a little bit of wisdom really embraces that role as a leader on that offensive line. I love the flowers. Pick because when you look at building a team I mean it's so easy you know. Most important players drew brees. Who WE'RE GONNA talk about a couple Michael Thomas Star players? But when you're really trying to build that franchise it is about finding those few leaders. Who really can be a role model for those younger guys? And I think flowers is a great pick and what he could potentially be. You know guard. Obviously he's not going to be in the forefront of everything you know he's not gonNA maybe a couple of pancakes here and there but but his job is pretty cut and dry unless he's getting horribly beat like a Billy Turner Dowse Thomas so if he can really step into that role. I think it'd be interesting to watch. I do WanNa talk about this though. We really should chat about Michael Thomas and Devante Parker. So I'm really explain. What is really happening between these two? So here's what happened the other day on Instagram Fox. Nfl asked a question which is tougher. A make a catch while guarded by Stefan Gilmore. A pass while being by Michael Thomas and all devante Parker said was a and you kind of know why he. He's faced up. St Stefan Gilmore twice over the last five seasons. He had a monster game against him last year. Obviously that's the only thing that he can truly talk. Speak on because it's the thing he does. And that triggered Michael Thomas as we know we see some of those other. You know bouts. He gets some of these other players. I Michael Thomas responded with for you yes go run some numbers up. Then you can talk. I laughed you. You've been in the league longer than me first round or any posted some emojis Responded with got some hard feelings their brother let me get target three hundred times a game and that again Michael Thomas who said in other words you week. They don't even put your name in the same sense as me remember that. And then he continued. He threw it out there. You still not going to do nothing. It took six years and seventeen weeks to have a good game. Get The out here. Blame your parents not know quarterback? All devante Parker said was quit crying. We will post this back and forth as we did on the inside of the other day but my first initial thoughts are man. We need football back in our life like. That's the tough thing here because you know Parker. Us maybe hey. He had a great game against the Fine Gilmore. He should be happy about that defensive player of the year. And you know. That wasn't even his best game of the season. I still think eagles game was really his coming out. Party at really showed what he can be at his best. And you know I'm not GonNa Defend Michael Thomas here but I think you don't become a top wide receiver in the Lee. I gotTA say Michael Thomas. The best rivals even NFL. I don't care how much he's targeted he. I you know. It's up for debate. But for me he's the best an order to become one of those best players. League. You don't you have this fiery attitude where you kind of are always you know think maybe people are out to get you. But trying to doubt you forget the haters. You know that type of mentality is how you really build that work of becoming one of the best players in the world. I'm in Tonio Brown before all that stuff happened. I mean he was the same way that everyone was kind of against it. So it's kind of a weird situation though where where you can't really you. WanNa defend Devante Parker but what I saw twitter. Doing what else kind of happy about is they were saying. Well of course and I think you're right there. Of course. Michael Thomas has had the better career but I mean Parker. Did nothing wrong with this. And for Thomas to Kinda come out and start ranting I mean it just. We need football back. You're one hundred percent ready yet and I think. The biggest thing here's consistency. If devante Parker throughout his first five seasons you know put up the same numbers they did last year. Then we have a conversation. I mean Michael Thomas like you said I think the Andre Hopkins is right up there with him. You proctor who Jones. There's some guys up there that I wouldn't even put Devante Parker in the same sentence with but again he ha. It's because he hasn't shown consistency. You're right that eagles game. He took that game over. You know there was a jets game. He took the game's over that game. Against Stefan Gilmore. He took that game. I mean that is what you want from wide receiver one from that those elite talent. And that's what we saw glimpses of last season so I think devante bars goes Michael. Thomas Absolutely not. I think some people twitter I think they truly believe that and I don't know that's a little crazy to me but it was nice to see dolphins twitter kind of come together and you know kind of call. Michael Thomas Out. Because he was being a little bit of a bully and it was for really no reason an devante parker just kind of laughed it off and I just can't believe it all stemmed from the word A. It's it's one of those things that you you have to talk about. Because I think all the national media outlets were discussing had dion sanders or Steve. Steve Smith on. Nfl Network talking about last night. We definitely football back. But it's going to be interesting to see how much this drives these players. I mean Michael Thomas Again. I think he says you know. Keep keep underrating me. It's like no one's underrating you. They already think you're the best wide receiver. Nfl Devante. Parker now is going to go out there and try to exceed expectations that we already had so. I think is a win win situation for the Miami Dolphins? I know a lot of people were you know why why's devante getting spewed like that. I mean all he did was say because he knows what. Stefan Gilmore is. He absolutely bullied the defensive player of the year. So there's no reason why devante Parker can't say that but I think it's crazy that out of nowhere Michael. Tom Thought that that was some kind of knock against him and again the biggest thing here is that we need football back in our life. Yeah like saying one thing harder than another doesn't mean the others hard. I mean I don't think you can really look at it as a huge way of discounting you know. It's a hard to get a million dollars. It doesn't mean it's easy to get nine hundred ninety nine thousand dollars. You know what I mean like. I think that's where the big thing comes in there. But I do WANNA talk about this receiving core Josh because I really feel that for the next year and whether it's you know one hundred percent my fault I think this this group is what we're GonNa really have under the microscope. The most and I started to see more people talk about it. When my first prediction of the fifty three roster it's almost as toughest mock draft sometimes the amount of fifty three man roster people you know put out especially this time of the year but you know this group. Outside of Parker who again we thought for one year. We need to see much much more but you know the way. He responded that you see him growing. It's weird devante Parker veteran on this team men. And that's something we really have to accept them Mannheim flies Jesus. But you look at this group at and what they're going to do with whether it's Patrick or whomever that quarterback at Ed you have to be a little intrigue but we really need to get this conversation going out of guys like Alad hearns. Can He may be come back and had this huge year with someone you know. If you WANNA compare divide they parking. To someone I feel like Allan Allan Robertson Zev right. Yeah on Robinson. I mean having him outside of Allen her and you think about the Jaguars Team I think. It was twenty sixteen. That made the playoffs. I mean Parker Robinson. I think you can kind of make that comparison with a lot alike so can allen hearns. Come back and have a big year. His Press Williams going to be healthy too keen grant. You think like people are talking about it on twitter. Today there are a lot of punt return options on this team. Juki grant struggled with catching the ball at times last year. You look at those. Josh Rosen highlights of that cowboys game and you see that even against the Patriots Albert Wilson. He took a pay cut and he's really rolling the dice here. In terms of the Dolphins GonNA use me as a premier player. Is this group. GonNa really be the what the dolphins need. And you know someone who is in product nearly enough and all this as Mike Seki not only is he catching balls that he's thrown to himself. I mean he's prime to have the season of his career in the Changli offense. That loves big guys you think about your psyche. Obviously they don't a daily offense doesn't use a tight end. You know hugging left tackle. They have a mountain to slap. Who called the fourth With most the fourth most yards. Excuse me out of the slap last year according to Pro Football Focus Mike Sake and then I had another statistic I believe of just how he could be actually time release statistic. Pf just went into the huge thing about how he is the one prime for this big year and I think it's really important. We start to talk about as being one of the stars. The faces of this Miami Dolphins offense moving forward out of that receiving core. I think it is Parker into Seki a one. A and one B for for this feeding or the food chain. The dolphins want go. Yeah it is one of the most you know uncertain situations on the roster because a lot of it has to do with. Can they repeat what they did last season? We saw a huge step up in like just sick. He's production because he was asked to block. I think he was. He stuck back blocked. The most is your with Adam Gates. I mean we saw him take the next step last season. We saw devante. Parker take the next step last season we Preston Williams on pace joke about it because I looked up. And I'm just GONNA keep saying he was on pace to Jerry Rice's rookie yard a Jerry Rice. But I just love the use that so. I think what's most fascinating? Here's a Albert Wilson. Took that pay cut and I think it was. The Miami Herald reported that the plan as of now. No course this could change over the next few weeks months you know based on how they perform preseason based on how they pick up this new fence Yada Yada Yada etc etc. Devante Parker impressed. The Williams will be those guys on the outside and then they expect Albert Wilson to be that slot receiver if you take a step back and look. What Wilson did before that injury? I mean that's exciting. You mentioned you Kim Grant. We have to see him. Finally take that next step and be worth that contract because we talked about it on one of our little book clubs that we did he was supposed to have similar numbers to Taylor. Gabriel because we crunched numbers and said you know what the contracts there I think I think he got outperformed by Taylor Gabriel. I think that's remained the thing that sticks out in my head that he's not even as good as Taylor. Gabriel right now. I know some of that has to injuries. Whatever the reason is but we need to see more education grant. We didn't even mention. Isaiah Ford who stepped up big towards the end of the year. I think it was the jets game when devante Parker went down. I afford showed flashes. And that's a guy that I think in the right offense. Young player can really exceed expectations. And then there's Malcolm pair he's listed as a wide receiver. No one truly knows where he's going to end up. You got other guys like Matt Collins. I is a Gary Jennings. I mean you can go through the dolphins list of wide receivers and some people say who the heck is that like I. I don't even that is but the dolphins have plenty of guys. We need to see. Take the next step this year and whether trying fitzpatrick like you said whether it's a ton of Iowa that is the expectation because the dolphins attacked the interior offensive and defensive lines this off season. I think a lot of people expect them to go hard after the offensive side and get some of those skill players next year. So we got to see who's going to be around long term. We found hers. Were that contract with Kim. Grants worth that contract. We thought Wilson's going to be here. There's a lot of question. Marks have been the dolphins receiving core but with question you know as much uncertainty as there is there if they can repeat and do some of the things that we've seen him do throughout the career. Exciting things to come. You know you mentioned Taylor. Gabriel and I. I still think that was a great comparison Maybe that may be exactly the same in terms of play style but in what we wanted to know. Statistics right in and how they were using the offense. Can you tell me Kim Taylor Gabriel's on right now by without looking? Think he's a free agent Am I wrong? I thought it was a hundred. He is currently not in the team at at both. See some electric keen grant come out but but this room is loaded with guys who have injury histories and while any at any time those those histories can just snap and become a thing of the past. They're no longer injury prone just like the thing that that really gets me is. Everyone called hill on injury prone wide rece wide receiver. I'm leaving it but I mean he took hit after hit after hit for five years the quarterback of the Miami Dolphins and never once was he said injury prone region close to a million loops on my vine account of just him getting clobbered. After you know insert offensive lineman year gave a sack. You know so those could change at every moment is just the dolphins will guys heading the same sort of track record. You have to wonder if they don't take that risk in maybe golden undrafted guy because there are threats against that make teams every year so I think we have to really look at those guys as maybe not necessarily just Perry maybe an undrafted maybe later on guy who could be a good story but also provide some consistency who might not have the ceiling as some of these veterans wide receivers but provide a for each. And every week that you know they're going to be out there and not really gonna be ready to play. Yeah and it's going to be. You know one of the most exciting things to watch develop over this year and we know there's a long ways to go before we see football but You know whether it's the dolphins receivers the running backs offensive defensive line. You know. There's lots of young players with these low risk. High reward ceilings. That all they need to do is the right system. I think that's what the Miami Dolphins are hoping Brian Flora's Chan Gailey these. These veterans coaches can bring to these guys. And you know I if everything seems to come together as it as it did this off season. I think you know good things. Come for the Miami Dolphins. There's no doubt about that and thank you for listening. We always appreciate it. I know it's tough. Go that extra little steph. Hit us with that rate. Hit us with that review. Hit the subscribe button. Go on do. It helps us out so much in. Follow the compensation Jordan's on twitter. Not only are we posting on the finsider and Josh Grayson like to say he does it but I do look at the comments. I try to kind of finagle. Those the ones that aren't just people being ridiculous into what we're talking about so to us. Keep the conversation going. Keep these angles. Because I mean there are going to be things we're going to be talking about for the next couple of months. That maybe aren't going to be. You know completely factual come opening day because right. 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Phinsider Radio: (EMERGENCY! PODCAST!) Dolphins' receiving corps sees a shake-up

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Phinsider Radio: (EMERGENCY! PODCAST!) Dolphins' receiving corps sees a shake-up

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You know you wake up walk outside it's Nice it's warm at eight to high it's the ideal temperature you could tell training camp should be right around the corner we're starting to see some videos to come up by the Miami Dolphins social media teams whether it's Josh Rosen Ryan Fitzpatrick and Just doing sprints to get everyone riled up or just drove. Baker Giggling as he runs feel for the first time it's it's an exciting time and with the you know we had a complete rundown here ready to go ready to shoot out some thoughts but We got some opt-outs happening with the dolphins and just a day book day in roughly four hours or according this noon on Wednesday players having to about four PM on Thursday I believe to opt out of the two thousand, twenty NFL season as of right now, there are two Miami Dolphins players who have decided to sit out the twenty twenty season, and that is Allen hearns and Abbott Wilson two receivers who we expected to kind of be maybe not. Players on the CBA but quality role players that we thought were GONNA be a big part of this team in two thousand twenty. Yeah before we get too far into this, let's just remind you guys if you're listening to this, please subscribe please rate this podcast you know without you guys going that extra step of the way and telling us how you feel and giving us feedback. We can't be the best dolphins podcasts that we potentially can be so pleased rate subscribe and you know you have. Any questions or concerns to this both up on twitter but these opt-outs came in I. See you're excited to talk about it and you know it's it's pretty big news and we've been stuck in the house and been waiting to just you know we've all been caged animals just waiting for something to happen basketball baseball is now taken off football started and you mentioned. Those little videos even just seeing fitzpatrick into in rows and doing these wind sprints I mean, it gets you pumped up as the Dolphin Fan because this is all we have right now in the opt-out, we talked about this all season. Long we mentioned a wide receiver core in how we viewed it heading into the season. I. We all believe you know if everybody. was healthy and went out there and contributed. You know it could be one of the stronger unions on the team at least offensively, and then this happened you know Alan hearns we'll get into a little bit. I. Don't know how you felt about that signing from the very beginning, but we'll get into that a little bit Balbir. Wilson's seems to be a bigger deal. And here was head coach Bryan Flora Statement on Wilson News I support Albert's decision I. Know He made with his family in mind? I want what's best for Albert as I do all of our players. So it doesn't sound like there's any ill will there as there shouldn't be known everyone respects these players decisions everyone is in a different situation so. I the most respect for Allen Hers Number Wilson as a father as someone who has two children I probably would also opt out the twenty twenty season if we're being honest. But now that we're done spitball and let's take a step back in this situation, how do you feel about Allen hearns Albert Wilson and the dolphins receiving core as a whole? Yeah and I think that's important to say and I mean I feel like I shouldn't have said but you know. It's pandemic. Everyone wants to do what's best for them in their family at the end of the day that that's kind of a I mean I right there with these players I mean thousandaire position. I, already had a couple of mill in the bank I think long and hard about it. I don't care what percentage of people have a negative side effects from this I mean I I don't WanNa risk those odds if if I don't have to. So so I I respect both these decisions I think everybody has to, and if you don't, I think you're gonNA. Go take a long look at the mirror and if it comes off as a way of us not feeling that way. please. Don't take it that way because we're going to try diving here about how this mostly affects the Miami Dolphins receiving core but you know you you kind of touched on it. We've spoken about this wide receiver unit quite a bit this off season I've said time and time again on this podcast. How intrigued by this group because it seems like you know this could be a very great group or on the other hand maybe there's only two of them left next season. You know there's there's really no middle ground there what the potential could be so. Over the last couple of days after the hearns opt out yesterday, I was starting to think about just the target shares I. Think when we think about what pressing Williams is doing over the snake games I mean you. Say quite a bit. He was on pace debris J. races are record for the most targets in the season as a rookie I. think that's a stack correct me if I'm wrong. But You know you're trying to see how devante Parker really broke out because you know he started to get more targets. We saw like Seki breakout because he started to get more targets. Both of those players really really found their rhythm. After Preston Williams wasn't seeing you know ten targets a game after suffering the ACL injury of just a touch on that quick, and we can talk about this a little bit too as we're talking about the wide receiver core in a whole personally has been cleared to practice clear to return. However, it wasn't seal injury and now Albert. Wilson. It might his acl injury embiid impact on differently just the way he plays the way he moves but. These players when they come back, they aren't one hundred percent right away. Right? We didn't see Wilson really hit his stride until late in the season. So I'm. It's work. It's kind of a little bit ironic in a sense that all of a sudden as the dolphins lose two of their solidified veterans on say we're leaning signed Devante Parker a I mean like like, let me let me Frizz of this way wick would you believe going into the twenty thousand nine season that I told you that are receiving core their success leans on completely healthy Devante Parker I. Mean I wouldn't be too confident hearing that before what we saw last season I, I don't know if you feel the same way. Yeah, I'd be terrified if. You've told that at the beginning of Twenty nineteen season thankfully did have that great run. You know he he had the best season in his NFL career for being completely honest. But you looked at the dolphins receiving core off season. Again, we talked about it time and time again, you know those Albert Wilson's and the Alan hearns those players are guys. That, you know some some one on the roster others you know they can say you know maybe they cut Albert Wilson Save some of that money or they can do the same without her as you know, these are some of those guys are kind of middling in their have shown some some you know that they go out there and producing the NFL. But at the same time, they just haven't been consistent whether it be injury. You know bet in day now these two guys are dead down you're relying on guys like Gary Jennings who I mean I wrote an article about him. I said not to sleep on him. We know these out there working out with Josh. Rosen Kirk Merit is also working. Out with to a of low, we've heard that this off season he got those two guys and you got is a afford I'm a big fan of and I think this is kind of going to be the guy might be ready to step up but you're right. I mean you look at this receiving core into think that devante Parker is now. You Kinda of new years at number one wide receiver that truly guy that when you see me one on one coverage given an opportunity because he's going to go up there and make those plays for me. It's crazy that you know we still twenty four hours before these players can opt out and we just saw within a matter of what two days that the dolphins receiving core like this huge unknown and we knew it was already going to be an unknown at least beyond twenty twenty but we all had to feel pretty good. About what this unit Loc- like at least on paper heading into twenty twenty season, you had all these young guys. You had these vets who have already produced and you had those guys like Devante Parker and Preston William so it's going to be interesting to see what happens here and I think we have to talk about what veterans the dolphins could look at now going forward and there is there any guys that you could see them maybe bring in a new you might not have had a chance to look at the free agent latest. People keeps throwing out Antonio Brown Josh. Gordon's out there and Chris Hogan was reported by a out Alfred Arteaga of yards per carry. So there is some you know history there between Chris Hogan seven eleven? This coaching staff, Chan Gailey, etc but you know we'll see but the dolphins are GonNa have to do something for the season starts because this once great looking unit at least on paper you know took a hit with these hearns and Wilson News. Yeah and you know I. It's a little scary because I think with players like Albert Wilson Allen. hearns there was there's a little slide floor. I think that we could really expect from these guys I. Think it would be five to six hundred yards. Let's be a little safer. I guess we'll say four to five hundred yards and maybe two touchdowns right and that doesn't seem like a huge total when you think about our quarterback throwing. It's eight, four, thousand yards, twenty touchdowns in a season. All of a sudden. That's that's twenty five percent of your yards gone and and roughly ten percent of your touchdowns If this receiving corps. Led by devante Parker and devante Parker regresses to the two thousand eighteen or any time before all of a sudden this is the worst wide receiver group in the NFL and I don't even think it'd be too much of a debate I. Think you know okay we could maybe argue green bay is up there but but all of a sudden you're leaning. Preston Williams to come back from an ACL tear and man, I think this is the time I. Mean I kind of maybe a little too much push that maybe Isaiah Ford baby is a little concerning in terms of we haven't seen that breakout breakout I'm really take advantage of what's going on I mean if they afford to step up at this point with Opportunity, he's GonNa have man I think I think this year all the sudden. We could've maybe played another year of what if with Isaiah, Ford and Kim grant if everyone is everyone was here all of a sudden these guys this is the time man. These guys have worse uses this. This is it. There have their opportunity you look at a Chan Gailey offense that loves to throw the Ball Weather Transit Patrick whether it's to their have opportunity to step in whether it's fitzpatrick throwing bombs, throwing darts or to what the quick passes and finding those rhythm throws I mean this is this is the this is probably their last opportunity to really show we can be consistent artists the NFL. And I think you're right I think it's going to be a very telling season given all the circumstances and just you know how important is some of these younger guys as they afford I think he gets a little bit more of you know of leash sorta speak because this is a guy who, yes, he's been up and down the active roster back on the practice squad. Up and down up and down, but then towards the end. that. Those last few Games kinda stuck in my head especially, the jets game almost took things over. So for me I think for does have the talent and if I were to have to pick between Kim Grant Isaiah four in which one of those guys I think is going to step up and be that player and fill the role of an Albert Wilson who you know he is kind of a similar player Dejan Grant. So why can't you came to step up and in that sense and then you look down hearns and he was kind of this possession guy yes he was the veteran who guy that was a true number one in Jacksonville couple years ago you know how to great. I think a breakout season with with Blake Bortles if I'm not mistaken but you guys they afford and he's just a guy who he he's a good route runner and like you said, he has to go out there and just to prove that he can be the player that the dolphins at least you have to trust that he is now at this point. I'm a big is they afford fan liked what he did Virginia. Tech and I'm excited to see what he does. But now you're right he it is his time to step up and you know there's no more excuses for these guys and to there were some guys who didn't have as much opportunity last year maybe none at all I think the screens. Some sort of hope for someone like a Gary Jennings or Mac highlands two guys who have floated around a little bit Gary Jennings really fits that bold of both were Burt Wilson and her we're going to try to do I think when we spoke about the wide receivers, he's someone I think I I was a little concerned about because he does play that slot possession type. Role and all the sudden jennings. We'll have that opportunity because that is what's interesting about both Wilson and hearns opting out is wilder frames are a little different. They both play the same position on the field in terms of that slot guy that possession guy so it's going he's going to have the opportunity Kirk married I mean that that's the one guy i. Think. He's been mentioned a couple of times I mean he's just going to walk up more and more up the depth chart and Greeley really get that chance. We're going to see these undrafted guys play and you mentioned some unrestricted free agents and since it's been a couple of minutes since you mentioned that I had the opportunity to kind of bring up a list here. Some names we bring back Danny Amendola damaris Thomas Chris Hogan Chester Rogers Josh Gordon Take on Austin Jermaine. Curse. Ryan Grant Jordan Mathews. Matt Slater is on that list and Dwayne Harris are just some of the names of the one that stands out to me actually a couple you know you mentioned the to slack is a save on Austin make sense at a cheap. Dear make Chester Rogers that same type guy us so as Chris Hogan but you have to. Kind of pick and choose with those. However, they did just you know I think a little while ago. They cut Ricardo. Louis. So you have to are released them Taylor Gabriel was recently released a with Paul. Richardson, in Washington, you have to wonder who they who they really decide to take a chance here with Eddie. Would you say you're pretty confident that they're gonna try to bring someone in order to China try to roll what's happening with the current roster For me for me I think what they're going to sit here and they're going to wait and see how other teams you know play their cars in their on every Ross. You know these wide receivers that maybe there's just not going to make the roster. We talked about on previous shows due to everything going on right now with the pandemic what if this guy doesn't make the roster this? Year who could out there and preseason showcase that he had the abilities to make the fifty three man roster. So the dolphins wait and see what players become available whether it be they go after the waiver wires which we know they love to go out there and trying to make a trade before he player does get released. So there's tons of options I don't think the are GonNa? Panic. When we say here and you can look down there they're receiving corps and there's all these young guys. You know like a Mac hons you mentioned released Ricardo Louis and he's the guy that you know maybe they decide to bring back. There's plenty of options out there I mean I. I. mentioned that the season could lean on someone like devante. Parker. something. It takes other devante Parker and Mike to Seki. You know I think this is really going to have to be the Chan Gailey offense. We saw a few years ago where it was. Eric Decker and Brandon Marshall and I see the Seki and Parker as who could press them. Williams's obviously to that role, and maybe even out seat one of the two, hundred percent hundred percent. That is possible but those are the two guys I really try to lean on something else about Chan Gailey offense is passing to the running backs. So He loves love to do. I, think it was. You know he had. Fred Jackson who always had roughly fifty receptions and then Matt Forte. In Newark New Orleans roughly fifty since we got map Brita an patrick learn I think these are two guys who can help eat up the slot targets I think it'll be interesting to watch too. So I think that's something we ought to keep in mind as we see people like you know whether it the hearns In the Wilson's. World opt-out I think maybe that might kinda give us a nod towards the running backs who could all of a sudden be seen more that slot role? Who knows? Maybe we could see layered and breed on the field at the same time try to get some speed packages going. It's going to be interesting to see how Chan Gailey really prepares for a group that it's it's first season so I don't really know. Or think that he would really have these positions solidified. These players can helen hearns and Albert. Wilson who you know if you scroll through twitter, you'll hear people say neither of them were a lack for via fifty three man roster and I don't know if I agree with that. But I mean it's wo-. Flora's says it's the next man up and there are guides that they don't really necessarily have to bring in. Our free agents because there are opportunities here for this roster. But again, the concern is consistency. The concern is taking advantage of those opportunities. Yeah you a great point about the running backs because today Jordan Howard end, Map Rita spoke to me I think that those transcripts scripts will be up on the Miami Dolphins official website. Later, this afternoon but Breda mentioned how you know they're they ask a lot out of the the the running back as far as the passing game and he does expect to have a larger role in Chan Gillies. All fence we know Jordan Howard can also you know make plays out of the backfield. So really any of these guys and go out there and come targets in the. Passing game and that becomes you know that opens things up immensely because like you said, they go out, they were joined a map of both on the field you know gaskin sticks whatever it might be I. Think there's a lot of interchangeable pieces here throughout the entire Miami. Dolphins roster and I think that's why you said maybe they don't go out there right Wayne address a veteran because they do have all these guys and it is this next man up mentality and you know that's all you can do especially in a season like we're we're expecting this year. Absolutely, absolutely, and I assume. Our Wilson Heels, he just read. It as deal. I I'm interested I. DON'T WANNA. Question or anything. But after he go aiding his contract I wanNA say what a month two months ago to opt out of the season I. Just I. Wonder what would those conversations were like but hey, which those to the best. Josh I was looking at the calendar. Add Buddy. We're five weeks away from opening day. Kid does that even sound like realistic at this point? Not at all and I don't know if people could even tell from this podcast but I think the two of us are just frigging ecstatic to be able to talk about things that you know isn't a fabricated instagram battle between Michael Thomas and Devante Parker or you know Stefan Gilmore. We're glad to finally football back and you know to think that it's five weeks away to think that we haven't even got. To see to in a uniform yet. I mean it. That's crazy. So I hope everyone continues to social distance where they're masking hopefully five weeks. You know we're talking about dolphins football because I mean I mean that's kind of what we all want. I want to ask you this question it goes back to the receivers but do you think this is the last of Allen her now Wilson on the Miami Dolphins Is. That is an incredibly tough question because I see a lot of people in a I had to look it up myself to know the details, but it's my understanding that if a player ops out, they just lose their money in two, thousand twenty and then they just you know pick up that contract next season. So by that, you would think our Wilson hearns would technically still be under contract and just throw this out there. Everyone continues to say on hers wasn't GonNa, make the roster anyway we'll that to me. That raises questions and concerns to me because why did the dolphins pay him if they didn't expect him to stick around I mean that that is a great question and it's a great point. You don't you know science someone to a new contract just to cut right you obviously have a plan in place and believe they will be a part of it. I mean instead of asking me this question I, think we really need to be asking Kirk Mary and I say afford does question because. I think it is truly up to them if they come in and don't miss a beat and play like the players that you know you think Isaiah four it is or how twitter thanks Kurt? Mirror. Could be I think they could be the last one them. I think they both can be moved on from their contracts. I think there's a lack I. don't people who you know say X. Y. and Z there's no way you give someone a brand new two year deal just to cut. Him I. Get. You can get out of any contract, but at least for the one season after he signed that contract whether it was twenty twenty or now it would be twenty twenty one I thought hearns was pretty much a lack if healthy to be a part of the team I, think he just adds a consistent CEO four excuse me to that wide receiver group. So I thought that was a little walkie. I thought that was a little weird but but truthfully, I think for both. Of them, it comes onto opportunity willoughby opportunities for US latte receiver to rise up on the Miami Dolphins or are we gonna be raving about the Isaiah and Kurt? Maritz for most of the two, thousand, twenty two and really have them lack of those positions I think that is basically what it's going to boil down to for these two to have the opportunity back here. You know I'd love to see him in I love Albert. Wilson. I love the you know I sound wave he does. The Passion I love the energy I, love the versatility. Alan. hearns like I said, I. Think there's just no consistency. You see that year in Jacksonville you know the potential of what he can do. I think he still has that in him but I mean if the dolphins have a group that's flowing with two, I, think they're just gonNA keep flowing with what they have. been a big Albert Wilson Supporter Fan of his and I do need to clarify saw someone on twitter. Say, no neither of these guys are game changers I take a little bit of a fence that because what we saw it of Albert Wilson in two thousand eighteen before that injury, he was absolutely a game changer. You know he's single handedly one that Chicago game he did a bunch of other things. When he had the ball when he was healthy, he was you know one of the most explosive players football. So to say, it's not a game changer. That's a little. Ignorant to me. Yes He's twenty eight years old you know yes. His NFL career like you said is in limbo and you know it's uncertain from this point on but outer Wilson when he was healthy early on that tells agencies, he was a game changer. He was like the legit when you think of a video game and those players are unstoppable that's what our Wilsonville on the football field. We talked a lot about the receivers we talked about the opt-outs You know there's a lot of news going on the COVID nineteen lists and this was something I wanted to talk about a little bit. We know players are coming up and down from drone. Activated yesterday like you mentioned he was running out of the tunnel. You know like a madman and it just got everyone over the moon excited Malcolm Perry and Eric Flowers are now on the cove nineteen slash reserve lists. This does not mean that they have cove in nineteen but it does mean that they came in close contact with someone who has or could have had a negative test. Meanwhile we barely drone Baker is off the list and we see him giggling schoolgirl excuse me jumping onto the field like most of us would be doing So I mean it's it's kind of a rocky road in terms of that less but it it's just kind of hopefully once they're all on the bubble together, they're all kind of smooth into a routine of everyone being cleared. Hopefully, they'll be the last we hear of the COVID nineteen lists hopefully for the whole season. I know that it's kind of asking too much but that's kind of the goal. Josh. preseason tear usually the hall of fame game I think would be tomorrow night the aug six. So I mean we're getting really close to the football season. You know not to Brag my birthday as I just found a to your daughter's birthday is August fifteenth. So I'm used to Kinda wake up my birthday I mean obviously, we can watch the Games. Now you pay what twenty bucks and you get to watch all the games. I am a yearly tradition for meals waking up on my birthday in watching the Dolphins Falcons Dolphins box highlights. That they usually played on the fourteenth just kind of how everything kinda rolled out a is kind of upsetting. I, don't get to see those traditions of those dolphin uniforms playing in horribly rainy rainy southern Florida weather in middle of August but I mean, we're kind of dealing with what we are I did see the browns are allowed are streaming of their practices which I think is a wonderful idea of how much would you pay to watch a light have live streams of every single Miami Dolphins Practice Every practice? Is over saying every practice. Yes. Oh Man I i. mean I'm not. I'd probably one hundred bucks. Bucks he would cause I'm thinking. that. But I'd pay a hundred bucks to be able to watch. You know how many practices they have this off season or you know what? It's GONNA be. Twenty some thirty. Yet twentysomething. So you're probably paying like five bucks practice. Hundred. Hundred sound outrageous when you have people going to sit in the melting pot bleachers and they're on like three fields hardaway trying to you know have their binoculars out figure out who's catching balls from so I I think hundred is I don't know if I'd do it or just wait twitter on that we'd split split it. and. Yeah. We 'cause I mean that just such a great thing for content and I do love this time of the year I love US refresh my feet and having you know the beat writers arguing about whose catching balls from who who miss saw, what was happening because I mean it's just a big dose of returning to Action as exciting. I think I would pay probably a hun- when you think about paying. Sixty bucks for a video game I mean that doesn't seem too outrageous especially with nothing going I'd I wish they are doing it but I think we're GONNA. Have to settle for the the Miami Dolphins, social media videos, and when I say settle. I. Mean is most certainly not a bad thing because they do an outstanding job when we had toe for on last week, he was talking about those those drone. Of bike second catching fades in the back of the end zone. So I mean we're going to get some stuff either way but I I mean I think that would have been so cool to be able to have set up, you know maybe four, five, six cameras I know there's a bunch of cameraman who do a wonderful wonderful work for the Miami Dolphins and and that's the truth firm I'd probably. Being a multibillion dollar industry so I mean it would have been fantastic I. think it would have been a lot of fun I think it'd be a great way for all of us to kind of come together. You know four times five times a week in the middle of the day and get some action out of it but I, mean, I guess it is what it is. At this point I mean pandemic life. Kinda. Just at least for me kind of defined why most of us even on twitter you know we we went on twitter follow the. The Beazley's and you know the Armand does in the skull Knicks and the hides in the Jackson's you know we went on there. So we could read their tweets about what's going on during training camp I mean that's why jumped on their from. You know from day one back back many years ago. But for me, I'd absolutely pay for it. I absolutely gotTA respect the Miami Dolphins have done I mean I used to joke you know hire me I can go on there and do a better job your social. Media absolutely not these guys doing a fantastic job. The videos are pumping out the content they're pumping out has been you know as good as anyone NFL. So hat tip to them yes. Will have to settle for that but you do hope they at least realize you know fans WanNa see this and you know like you said vans and drive down there be sitting in the melting son and be like your head was pressed against the George Foreman Grill just melting they're like fondue and now with everything going on. Why can't they just throw a livestream out there and let those fans that would normally be out there in attendance just see what's going on let those of us that live up here in the northeast get to see what's going on because this is what we have to get through these times right now and football's back. I'm excited and you know let's let's just hope things continue to progress the way they are because it's ear and hopefully you know will be we'll be able to see the the to its. Own of I, low wearing his uniform and and get to see a slow motion five yard quick slam passed a Kirk mayor whatever it is. It gets us all excited and thinking you know that's the next great Miami Dolphins Tandem there. So lots of off season left lots of uncertainty but at least we have the Miami Dolphins to help take our minds off a things. Now, let's just hope again we get that to atone by low in his uniform because God gosh. Darn, we've been waiting a long time for that. And to rick before we wrap out. The Dolphins did announce a cut that I. was probably play you that the kind of the pendulum swung to both sides in terms of the ceiling and the floor, and that's our cordray tankersley. He was like, Oh, by the tea and struggled with injuries he made a couple plays a few years ago in the preseason I believe it was former third round pick and basically to this could say, I, don't know how much room there was for him in that cornerback room especially when you look at Howard Jones, Banal Guinea even nick need of those guys who Have, really established themselves for a longer period of time but but the bigger thing is I mean I. It's kind of not what blankie here. But to be a wet blanket I mean, that's the third round pick man could you like I'm excited to see people develop late like Brandon Jones I'm excited to see Rick Ron Davis. Development extended these guys. You can look like big pieces of the team for years to come, but I mean just as likely of them becoming great players I mean there is that negative side where. An average NFL careers, three years man I, mean it's just kind of. Concerning. When when you see the the third round picks, leave the door or walk out the door and the dolphins have continued to struggle for years I mean those are the picks, the dolphins if they want to be a contender for next five years if they want to go about how these draft picks, they have I mean they got a hit on them out of get some pro bowlers gotta get some hall of Famers here because I mean. We I tried to make the case a Jones and I in terms of the dolphins ring of honor and you know people kind of chuckled at but I mean that's closest we've gotten you know I mean Cameron Wake undrafted shirt we can talk about him but I'm like we need some of these guys to really bloom into star players. We can't have any more tanker sleeves or anyone like that. Walk out of the door because I mean all if that's The case, all these five in the five and eleven seasons and and not in the hunt season's I guess we'll be nothing. Yeah and it's kind of weird and seems almost like the dolphins are better at drafting or at least Chris Career. In those fifth round the got a lot of good players. A lot of talented starters in the fifth round opposed you know in the third round when he would hope or you know it scouts or twitter experts with. Lend would want you to believe they know it's easier to hit on a third round pick than it is a fifth, but it hasn't seemed to be the way for the dolphins. You know a lot of people were excited about what Tankersley did as a rookie played in seventeen games with a dolphin started in eleven. Thirty five total tackles and seven pass breakups. So I mean it is what it is. Some people may have forgot Cordray Tankersley was even on the dolphins for being completely honest. They also waved long snapper rex son I'm just calling wreck scientific because he's he's out the door now. So the dolphins, the dolphins brought Blake Ferguson you can't use a sixth round draft pick on a long snapper and expect to you know bringing undrafted guy in and have him take that roster spot. So bleak for Ferguson's back off of a the reserve list that's his spot and. You gotta hope for some of these guys or CR- trailer tanker so that they do land or get another opportunity. With another team. I don't know how this off season or how the twenty season is going to affect the practice squad I. Still Don't know the full details on that. So I don't know if any of these players could you know for if some of these players are could if then fallen onto the the dolphins practice squad, not necessarily a long snapper or Cordray tankersley veteran, but you know some of these younger guys. So dolphins are making roster moves it's not going to be you know this may be some of the first wave of won't, but it's certainly won't be the last. That is absolutely the truth Josh. I'm glad we waited a day. So we could touch on the Albert Wilson News like I mentioned top. We hope we'll sit in her the best I. Hope we see him on the football field in twenty, twenty, one I hope we can be on a football field twenty, twenty one who knows thank you everyone so much for jumping in and diving. INTO INSIDER RADIO WITH US be sure to hit that subscribe button leave a review leave five stars it helps us all so much hit us up on twitter with your questions or comments whenever it may be Chad with you guys. Thank you so much for listening jobs can be found on twitter at issued Z. I M J mental thirty one, and most importantly footballs around the corner. Up. Six, hundred radio part of the. Dot Com and the SP patient never Miami Dolphins. Ball, told. 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Phinsider Radio: NFL trade deadline and the futures of Ryan Tannehill, Kenyan Drake, DeVante Parker and more.

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Obviously not going anywhere with the trade deadline now go on and him remaining on the team. What does this Fisher look like in Miami and Ken the dolphins count on him? And who is biggest supporter in dolphins building? The answer might surprise you. We'll talk about all those topics on this version of this podcast for those looking for jets preview. We'll have another episode later in the week breaking down the jets game with a special guest from gang it green nation part of the Espy nation network. So please stay tuned for that. Let's kick things right off here with the NFL trade deadline coming and going a few trades here and their gold. Tate's going to the Philadelphia Eagles ha ha Clinton Dix going to the Washington Redskins. The Mary as Thomas probably the biggest name being moved headed to the Houston. Texans. Other small moves hair and their Dante follower going from the Jaguars to the Rams that include that in these small move. I saw a lot of chatter on Twitter house inside about this move and Dante Fowler had fallen out of favor with the Jaguars coaching staff and some people I saw dolphins Twitter comparing dont they follow her to. Devante Parker where the Jaguars are willing to move on from file for trade compensation. But they're not willing to move on from guy like park. The difference is a huge difference. Is Parker was the number one receiver in is number one racy round the dolphins thought they follow was more second-string third-string kinda guy in the Jaguars. So two completely different scenarios or re tweeted something earlier on Tuesday where someone was saying that Jaguars fans were shocked. They're able to get a third round pick. And. I think it was a sixth or seventh round pick four or five dollar and everyone else around the league was saying. Wow. I can't believe the Rams gave up a third in a sex or whatever it was for Sunday father, so two different sides of the spectrum there, but we're gonna get into that. Devante Parker comparison and just everything about devante Parker later in the show. But I want to open things up here with the NFL trade deadline, son and outs. And I think we all had similar theories as to what the dolphins should do and similar ideas. But the execution of that may have played out a little differently, and I'm going to start off here. And obviously, this is for entertainment purposes, only because none of this happened. But here's what I would have done. If I was the Miami Dolphins general manager, I would have looked at this as a complete total tear down a full rebuild. I don't think the dolphins are going to make the playoffs this year. They might squeak in these AFC is so weak. But I don't think you're going. Go far once they get in. If they get in. I don't think that Ryan tannehill is the future of this team. I don't think obviously Brock Osweiler is the future of this team. So you're going to need a franchise quarterback. You're going to try to identify one in this coming years draft or the free agent market. You figure rookie year of that quarterback is going to take his lumps, bumps and bruises. And then you're too is ready to really get going. Therefore, I would've looked at everyone on this roster. And if you're not in my plans and two years and beyond I'm going to try to trade, you met means Cam wake that means her shot Jones, probably that means guys all over the defensive line. Andre branch, not all of the domes would have been able to get anything for him. But I would've least tried that means TJ McDonald. I think ky-ko's here for two years and beyond he's been playing very very well this year, despite what people are saying I would have looked at. Other guys Ryan tannehill. I would've tried to unload him you in all the would've been very hard to do. So, but all these other guys if you're not here in two years, I'm looking to move on from them looking to accumulate as many draft picks as possible evaluates young talent the rest of this season and gear up for the next year the year after that and the two years after that to really build a contender and hopefully doors the right way. Obviously the dolphin stood Pat and didn't do anything the trade deadline house. If you were the dolphins general manager, what would you have done today leading up to the line? We're all debate on Twitter. And you know, we talked a little group chat about whether or not the dolphins will be buyers or sellers they turned up there is going to remain content with what they had. I know there was some talk that they were looking into the hawk Clinton Dix whether or not that was you know, accurate, or they even had a shot at him is yet to be seen. But for me, I think we take a step back. You gotta look at the overall picture in a no son discussed Reshad Jones last week. It was this big thing on Twitter, and you know, that that's the kind of approach I would has the gentleman that I would have started to sell some pieces free in some traffic compensation because at the end of the day. You're not gonna wanna football games NFL's out a quarterback in whether or not you think Ryan tannehill is the guy or was the guy his body starting to break down. The report came out today about his arm or talk about that a little bit later. But for me, I would have tried to acquire draft picks while not thrown away the season because this team is still formed for you. Gotta you gotta think of this team wants to be competitive in Adam gates police a his team. I know we went out and said that you know, he is. Right guys in place. Of course, he does because he's willing to hand pick these guys, but you have to think that the dolphins still believe that they have a chance at four and four. I mean, who's to argue they don't so we're on the Brock Osweiler train. I would have liked to see him go out there and try to get a teddy Bridgewater because I think at the beginning of the year, he would have been a good piece debris in here. I think he would have been a guy that could battle with Ryan tannehill and could possibly be that quarterback of the future. I know a lot of people wanna say, you know, we as to healthy himself. But I would like soon go out there and get a teddy Bridgewater. I don't know if that would happen at this trade along that some that might happen in the off season. But overall should have gotten rid came wake. I mean, he's thirty six. He's a good pass rusher. He's a guy that he deserves to go to contender and playing meaningful gains because he's not going to get that here in Miami. No matter what we want to say the dolphins are not competing this year. Even if they make the playoffs they still got Brock Osweiler in Ryan a quarterback. I don't think they can do any damage. So I think I wouldn't have been a seller. I would've went out there and try to get draft picks try to get players to build upon on the future because you're not gonna win without a quarterback in the best way to get a quarterback. Whether it's three. And see like teddy Bridgewater or you're going into the draft. And and trying to move up there and get the Carson Wentz as the Jared Goff. Sure. This draft class doesn't have that high flashy name, but you know, the closer we get to the draft. Those players are going to start to rise to the top Boise state's quarterbacks one of them. Herbert over there in Oregon, you the Ohio State has confu might come out. I mean, there's guys who have the potential end office to find their quarterback because you're nothing NFL without a quarterback I throughout the Rashaad thing because I'm definitely in the selling market, but I had to kind of step back for a second. And when I realized about myself and watching the dolphins over these years as as the season goes on I get a little bit more objective. So I think that's why this middle part of the season. It's a little bit easier to digest the fact that the rest of the season may not go very well. And we've lost four the last five games. And it's it's really natural to think that the the last half. Half of the season is not going to go the way we want. So hence why we're in the selling market, but I had asked myself. What did we have the cell and devante maybe? But when even when you look at Rashad and Cam wake with age Rashad is a little bit banged up right now, he's kind of a niche safety. He's getting older the contracts probably a little bit prohibitive. What what could we have gotten for him? What team? What what player? Do we have? That's going to put another team that's going for that Super Bowl. What player's gonna put that team over the hump? And I just don't know that we have that player right now. Devante may be could have gotten a a day late day to day three pick more likely in my opinion. So I don't know that we really had anything the sell guys. So you know, we didn't have the quote unquote, middle waged players for lack of a better word, you know, the players in the Kiko Alonzo arc in their career. Fears that we could ship off. Another didn't have the veterans in my opinion. I know just mentioned Reshad Jones and Cam wake. And I'm just I'm not seeing any other really viable candidates that could have went to another team and help them. So you know as much as we would have liked to events dollars in this market. And it probably would have been smart for us long term. I don't know that we had anything the south. You do have a good point. You're right. So we say, hey, when we say we should sell this week to sell that. But when you comes down to it do other teams want what the Miami Dolphins. Have you you mentioned Cam wake. And he's thirty six thirty seven years old no contract as this season free agent. So if you're looking at the Rams, let's say, right. Probably one of the best fits for him. You're looking at a contender someone who needs that pass rusher to go over the top. But Kim wake hasn't been. I would say great on film. Yes, he's getting pressures. The same rate has always been. Getting his past few years in a league what he's not translating that into sex and he's ali- ability in the run game as well. So when you look at the Rams, and then they ship a third round pick. And whatever else it was to the Jaguars rebound. They follower follows a former first round pick young just getting his feet wet in the league going into a system with Wade Phillips. Maybe they can turn him around can't wake you're getting someone rested season. Who knows what after that? So you're right son in that sense. There may have been issues where nobody wanted any of the dolphins guys or one of them, but was offering very little compensation for them. Or if it's if it's one of our younger players like Laremy Tunsil or something like that. That teams are looking at those players that are absolutely off the board for Mesa. There are certain players at your knock on a touch on the team and some of those young players in our nucleus. I think we'd all kind of agree on some of the players that would be in that those guys are off. Limits -solutely. You're absolutely correct. So what the dolphins wanted to do in the trade market here. And they were trying to be a little active. I do know that from people I've talked to but the compensation was a little out of control this year. So they wanted to get as you've seen with wide receivers. They wanted to get a run stuffing defensive linemen, and they weren't able to pull it off. They had interest in cornerback helped. They were looking at the wide receiver market which mentioned with. Devante Parker will get more on that later. They wanted a run stuffing VM to kind of make up for the loss of William Hayes makeup for the. Area that they're struggling in the center of that line where the struggling to stop the run. So they went out and signed defensive lineman Ziggy hood who last played for the Washington Redskins. So you've you learned a lot about Ziggy hood over the past few hours today as a dolphins brought him onto the team. What can you tell us about Z hood who he is? And how you think he's going to help the dolphins for the rest of the season. I mean, it's a depth signing guys. I mean, we're we're looking at a decimated defensive line right now in an unproductive defensive lines were really looking for anything literally a guy off the street right now and not to say that Ziggy hood has had a subpar career. I think he's had a at least an average career if not above average. He was drafted first round out of ole miss to the Steelers in two thousand nine so you're gonna see little Krunia ZIM here because he was with the Chicago Bears in two thousand fifteen of course, our head coach was. There at that time. So there is some familiarity there so gazes been known to bring in those familiar faces and knowing the the verbiage is some of the schemes that he uses so he's gonna come in. And he's really gonna help on the defensive tackle probably more specifically. But could also do a little defensive end work if we need that depending on whether or not Charles harasses gonna come back this next game will know more tomorrow when the injury report comes out, and we say who's practicing who's not practicing. So I again, just a depth signing guys. I don't think we're gonna see too terrible amount of snaps from him other than given divan. God CHA and Akeem Spence a breather here and there and what we're hoping to see in terms of more snaps moving forward. Is none other than quarterback Ryan tannehill. And he is dealing with some injuries. Injuries right now at the latest report from Adam gays saying he doesn't have the velocity in the power that he wants had with his throwing shoulder and that raises some red flags folks three yards per carry the podcast part of the five reasons. Sports network. Very well connected. With tannehill story they've been on top of everything reported several weeks ago that Ryan Tanna hills injury may last several weeks and here we are lasting several weeks. His status for the jets game is probably going to be dealt full. Once the injury report comes out on Wednesday. Whether he plays against the Packers remains to be seen. But there are mumblings right now that he could be out through the dolphins by week. And maybe beyond we mentioned on this show that the dolphins might be using Tanta hills injuries and excuse. Guess might be who knows? We don't know. What really goes on that building? But the fact is that when you're throwing shoulder as a quarterback. That's that's cause for concern outs. Earlier on Tuesday. You put out a tweet a very accurate suites. That mentioned Ryan tannehill has basically become Chad Pennington, can you expound on that house and just tell us what you think this means to Ryan held moving forward in for the dolphins organization. Try to keep things light and night try to go out there, and you know, say that as a joking manner. But at the end of the day when they sit there and talk about his arm strength union issue is no Chad Pennington was used in very accurate quarterback. I think he's the most accurate quarterback in NFL history statistically, and he just couldn't throw pass fifteen twenty yards. And you're going out there in your hearing that Ryan tannehill can barely throw a Nerf football. They're concerned if it's ever gonna I mean, it sounds like they might be concerned if it ever comes back to where it once was so I mean, I went out there. And I said as a joke, but it's funny because at the beginning of the year, if you would a tweet it out, you know, Chad Pennington or that. In Ryan tannehill was as good as was a equal quarterback to Chad pain to net. He wasn't more significantly better player than Chad. Pennington people probably would have bashed you. You would have you know, you would have lost followers. You would gun heated argument because everyone loved Ryan tannehill. And I went out there and tweeted that and immediately everything that was in my mentions, they were just people going off and say, and that's an insult to chat. Pennington, you know, Chad pain to a so much so much smarter than what Ryan Tenedos he has a better grasp of football is he was more accurate this and that and it's just crazy. I mean, I think we've all kind of done it. But it's just so crazy how quickly that you turn. You know, you sit there and you say Ryan tannehill franchise quarterback. He's you had people in July synod rather have freakin Ryan tannehill over Patrick Mahomes in what world would anybody have ever said that I just don't I don't understand it anybody ever watched. Patrick Mahomes store. Football would have never said that and people yet went out there. And you know, they said I'd rather Ryan tannehill because he was the dolphins quarterback and everyone had hoped. He's going to pick up where we left off until sixteen. He wasn't injury prone. Well, guess what? He is injury prone. He's a slightly. Above average quarterback. And now the team has a quarterback issue. So when you sit there, and you tweet out, you know, he's an equal quarterback. Chad painting is now Chad Pennington, I just baffled by how many people were defending Chad Pennington because if Chapman Kuzina NFL today, you know, the dolphins aren't going nine and seven I'm in the same story. So for me, it's a huge concern. The dolphins. Oh him a ton of money. He's on the roster next year. But I just don't see a better option out that we mentioned teddy Bridgewater. You mentioned drafting a quarterback. But you draft a quarterback you still need to have that veteran in place, and it's just hard. I think you need to see how this unfolds but for me Ryan tannehill his days are absolutely number two Miami. I you have to feel like this coaching staff. You know, Adam gates he kinda hinted his his try to him and his coaching career was kind of tied with Ryan tannehill. And you seem taking a step back now and realize you know, what like if I want to be a head coach NFL to get my guy, and I need to go out there and and try to win games with him. So it's crazy to think of how a couple of weeks ago, people were downplaying whether or not he was even hurt. And now, we're what four weeks. Slater. And he's still not throwing a football to the same velocity. Once was not even throwing a football last. I heard he was still in left handed. No, he's gonna pick up Nerf football this week. So it's definitely concerning. The dolphins have a lot of money locked up in that guy, a whole lot of years invested in that guy, it it's hard to say, you know, hopefully, this isn't the Enron tannehill. Because you don't want to go out that way, you invested seven years in and you wanna go out because of injury. I mean those first few weeks this season. You look good. They look like crap. And then he got hurt. So it's it's really harmed untorn dolphins fan 'cause you wanna see him get a fair shot, but it's been seven fricken year. So you'd have a backup plan. I do think Ryan ten days. Miami are numbered looking long-term here is that this next quarterback draft classes, not going to be that great in this free agent quarterback class is not going to be that great. So for just gonna have to see if something kind of weird happens. So just doesn't know if this is going to be a quote unquote buyer's market to to get a quarterback next year. So it may. May actually be in the dolphins. Best interest to have Ryan's and a hill on the roster next year without having to just get rid of him for the sake of getting rid of him, and sacrificing that salary cap implications there, but one guy that we thought was going to be a huge part of this offense and has been a mild part of this offenses can Drake. And I just can't imagine what is going on in this young guys head who had such a great end to the two thousand seventeen year with perhaps even more precarious situation than what he's facing right now. But sharing the load with Frank gore and really seeing some even split results in even when you're kinda rewinding through the season Kenyan Drake game two against the jets had more touches and was more productive than Frank gore. So it was really that Cincinnati game. I remember MC money, and I were talking really quick what's going on Kenyan Drake. Why is he not getting the touches? We were speculating that. Maybe he got in trouble with the team or something or that. He was missing blatant assignments were being really disruptive in some way. Because it just didn't add up that the reps that he was getting. And the talent that you saw the production that you saw the two thousand seventeen. So I really think we're just in a offense of identity crisis right now, we don't know exactly what we wanna look like running the ball. I don't think we know exactly what we wanna look like passing the ball. And that makes it really challenging when you don't have a kind of go to part of your playbook. People have talked about. The fact of Frank gore has gone the majority of snaps over Kenyan Drake in terms of running the ball and on gays simply explained it of you weeks ago, saying the Frank gore knows how to fall forwarding at the yards that they need to continue the offense to move. But has it really worked Cincinnati game? Because that's when it first started. If you recall prior to that game, the dolphins were struggling in Adam bay city at some ideas to get gore. Andrew both involved in the game. And then we came to Cincinnati and we saw. Frank gorgan. The majority of the bulk of the rushing and then Drake coming out of the backfield. With catches it continued then moving forward pass that game to the lines game. Also to the Texans game. And the offense has not moved much since the first three games. So I'm not sure that Adam gazes philosophy is working. We kind of talked about this last week in terms of trying to mimic the saints offense with Kamara and Ingram. The one two punch there, and you see what the saints is Qamar is a lead back in Ingram's secondary back in Miami's reverse Gore's. The lead back Drake is the second back. But ever seems like whenever Drake touches the field and gets the ball on his hands. Big things happen more times than not. So we'll see what happens there another time where it happens more often than not at least for the Houston. Texans. Game was devante Parker. And I know you guys did film review on this. And the all devante Parker is roots and catches and everything else that happened during Texans games. So I'm have you both talk on this bit with the vaunted park was not moved during the trade deadline supposedly there were several teams interested in him. But interested means a simple phone, call would do and then. It gets twisted to Trump the value of whatnot. Adam gaze is being reported as his biggest fan in the building by three yards per carry and is seen as if Adam gaze over the past two years has been gaining more and more control and personnel and Evatt engaged loves. Devante Parker and his biggest fan, then he's probably winning that power struggle more often than up. I'm going to start with you house. Will we see the same? Devante parker. We saw against the Houston Texans or was this. That was a or was just outta Mirage? We're devante name was being floated around and he wanted to put on a show for the rest of the Lee. Well, honestly think it's a little bit of both in. I just wanna clarify of a sun that did the film breakdown. You check that out on the Finsider own. But overall, I mean, this is a devante Parker that you thought you were going to get when you draft him with the fourteenth pick in two thousand fifteen draft six reception hundred thirty four yards twenty two point three yards per reception. End that long forty six and it it's hard to sit here and say, whether or not, you know, this is the devante Parker renaissance three of the year because we've seen it throughout his his first several seasons. You know, the injury bug kinda hits him, you know, whether it's nagging hamstring handed shoot, whatever it may be and they just miss his games, you kinda goes away. But I do think a lot of it had to do, you know, Houston's defense their secondary was pretty banged up. I think they lost a couple of guys during that game prior to that game. They were banged up. But at the end of the day, I mean, this is all the dolphins had. They had. Devante parker. You know? Kenny stills was out. Our Wilson's out. Yes. You came grant. You gotta Danny amendola. But but but. What it comes down to is. Devante Parker is at number one wide receiving you song go out there and be dominant. He beat his defensive back. You beat the guy across from just every single time. You just hope that this is more of the devante Parker that we see coming over the next few weeks because his cap it next season if they pick up that fifth year option, I think it's nine million, and that's not a ton of money for guy of his caliber that when he can go out there and make these plays. I think he's every bit worth nine million dollars. When we look around the league. So it's not a surprise Adam gays police misguide because he has a lot of similarities with the Sean Jefferies the Damaris Thomas's at he wants coached. I mean, the injuries are there. Also, I mean to marry Thomas he was one of those guys in Denver that he had the same problem. He was just in and out of the lineup. He had these nagging issues that kept him out, and then Sean Jeffrey to in Chicago. So I think he's one of those players that he sees a lot of those guys in he knows that he can be that game changing number one wide receiver that has offense desperately needs. And you just hope that he can continue to do what he's doing because a. Team wasn't gonna give up on the dolphins wanted. And it was reported as a third round pick whether or not that was true. No one will ever know. But if it was and it does seem that the dolphins according to three yards per carry. They had several offers on the table one. They didn't trae. Devante Parker because they felt like he was more valuable than what other teams offering. So you have an issue wide receiver. You have a guy who should be a game changing number one, and you have eight week eight more games in this year to to find out if he's at guy, and you hope he is because you put him in there with our Wilson you put him in there with a Danny amendola. If he comes back this year, a Mike Jiechi in year to a Kenny stills Kim grant, I mean that offense sounds deadly. So you needed? Devante Parker early in the year. You got him. Now, go out there and see what he can do. Devante is a guy that obviously I root for on Sundays. But someone that I gave up on a while ago. And it was nice to go into the tape on on Thursday against Houston. Despite the ass kicking. You know, there was a silver lining. There. The devante played well, and it's both the poison and the antidote, you know, what? I mean, it's it's both indicative of the fact that he does have those really good games when he plays with and Boden italics when he plays. So, you know, it's it's both a tease and kind of what he can be. So it is a little bit of a paradox there. But you almost wonder the way he was playing in the one thing that I really wanted to see in that tape is how did he approach the game? What was his body language like what were? You know was he distant was he. Rod was he aloof was he engaged was a focused. And I think he could tell early that he was pissed off and a good way in a constructive way. And it made me think of two thousand sixteen with what Adam gay stood with J J and left him to go to Seattle on the road. The first game of the season and left him back at home. And look what happened at the end of two thousand sixteen season the way Jay Gye played perhaps. And I'm, you know, obviously have no clue this actually gonna materialize or not. But the way he was playing with that chip on his shoulder. I think that's the one thing that devante really needed in his professional career to play of anger and to be able to control it. Maybe he's able to do it now. But with that. Being said, he was possibly are only trade commodity as we have kind of iron this out through conversations with each other. And really think we probably should have sold. Interesting thought there, you mentioned that you wanted to know his demeanor leading up to the Texans game Brock Osweiler actually said the davonte was focused in from the very beginning of the week for practice and Brock new us going to have a big game. Now what I would twist your question, then would be how has he been compared to the rest of the games in his career compared to this one. Is that switch finally coming on? We will see if you can keep it up against the New York Jets. You say that you think the dolphin should've sold on how it's seems like you had a little bit of different take on that. I can't decide one way or another because I don't know what goes on truly goes on behind closed doors with the von say, and what is coaches are telling him to do and on all the assignments that he's running after right? If the wrong or whatever. But looking at the long-term future he needs to show that he can stay on the field at the dolphins wants to reward him with a big contract. Otherwise, you're just spinning the wheels in stunting, the growth of others below you. Before we wrap up the show Sutton. And how it's any last thoughts on the dolphins. The trade deadline or anything else around the NFL house. You got anything? No, I think the dolphins in the second half of the yearly need to go out there in any to run the football. You gotta get Kenyan Drake involved. You got to limit your mistakes on offense. You had to go out there and learn how to stop the run. I mean is a Ziggy hood really gonna go out there and make that big of a difference. Probably not. But the dolphins had ten days now to prepare for the New York Jets. They are the New York Jets. She need to go out there and win at home. Because if you don't I mean, it's crazy as it is to say this season could be over a need to get make Fitzpatrick out there. No. He's kind of been that hot commodity people are wondering why is only getting last week. Fifty four percent of the snaps. It's it's insane to think about because by McCain was getting tortured by willful or on the outside. And I mean, yes, mingka's not a boundary corner. But who's to say he can't do a better job than by McCain? I don't think that that's the case at all. He should have been put on. We'll you need to find a way to get him on the field. I'm sick ac- Nagai like teaching McDonnell one hundred percent of snaps will make Fitzpatrick deserves that I mean you drafted him with the with the eleventh overall pick. He's that guy who you. Believe in. I mean, you gotta go out there. And you gotta get that man on the field because he's one of the best defensive players. Then again, another thing pass rusher in Cameron wake. Yes. Your thirty six. Yes. You just got knee surgery under branch, you're making a ton of money. Charles Harris, get healthy do something Robert Quinn. I think you look pretty darn good in preseason IRA. Just kind of you know, I see the holds. I realize you're getting those pressures, but they're not quitting to Saxon. You're paying these guys three two million dollars combined to to go out there. And I think it was three sacks. I saw you. Gotta get a pass rush going. You got to stop the run map ERK, you're fighting for your frigging life out here. I mean, you're not going to be a defense coordinator in this league. If you keep doing what you're doing. So so for me dolphins. You gotta go out there. You just you pretty much starting to season fresh your zero euro zero zero right now, and you're going out there trying to make a playoff push because that AFC's up it's up for grabs. Whether you want to say it or not I mean, you believe in big in Brock Osweiler, you believe that. Yes. The intangibles to lead this offense do enough to. Keep keep the team in the games the defense needs to show up. And and I think us as fans I mean, we want to sell at the deadline. We know that's better for the long term. But these guys some of these guys are fighting for a job, especially in the front office. I mean, you can't think Mike Tannenbaum saves. So these last few weeks, they have a lot relying on amend the dolphins go out there and make some things happen. I just look forward to break down the game later in the week and getting into some of the stuff that we saw week two against the jets that we were able to get out of that game that you're talking about Robert Quinn. How it's and that was the one game that he did have a Saxon may be has another one this game. Who knows but you know, just just throw this out there for everybody who everybody who loves the dolphins as much as we do be prepared for purgatory talk be prepared for the long term versus short term approach be prepared for those conversations. You know, you're not less of a fan because you think long term it probably be better for the team to lose. You're not you're not a bad fan. And it's so easy for dolphins fans because are so pissed off all the time 'cause we haven't really done much for the last twenty five years to to throw shade at each other like that. But there's really no wrong approach to. To seeing how the the rest of the season is going to play out. So just because you're in the selling market doesn't mean you're not gonna root for them on Sunday. Just because you think Cam wake is probably better off playing on a different team in rooting or. I'm sorry participating with a possible Super Bowl contender as opposed to being a Miami dolphin because you actually respect what came in wake has brought to this team. So there's different ways of looking at similar situations in similar players. And you know, it's we're all in this together. So let's not. Throw too many rocks. When we all live in a glass house where all dolphins fans. Okay. So just be ready for those conversations. It's not really that threatening Sutton pulling his best Dr Phil impersonation there to wrap up fence at a radio. But I think you've hit the nail right on the head. Yes. Everyone wants the same result. We all have different ways of getting getting there, and that's no different than any other walk of life where you're working with other people wall should a same vision in the same goal. We all want the same thing again. But we all might think of different ways to get there. We'll see what happens when the Miami Dolphins. 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Dolphins & Jets Double Trouble: Potential Breakout TE?

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Dolphins & Jets Double Trouble: Potential Breakout TE?

"So more. We did it. We did it. We didn't screw it up that whole intro. Ninth Show. Eight tries why yes nine tribes. And in screwed up. Everyone says looking at. Me Like get Matthew Berry nine shots at something. He's generally gonNA nail it. What else does that apply to in life other other examples of things that took nine times to nail it and the best. I wouldn't want my wife tends that. All right. Let's move onto. Double. Double. Trouble Donald Trump. Double troubles at this moment there on double secret probation. Getting right into it. Because she shy in front of a microphone. Yes. She's not comfortable public either one of those things I totally understand. All right. Yeah. Understand Bill Gates Matthew Berry defined bell also joining us. Oh Yeah we're on because I we we have. So just take people behind the scenes. We have a monitor that sorta shows what the audience sees. We have a model return. It's called the return. Yeah, and right now it just shows the logo. Yeah. I didn't know if like we were on or if there was some sort of technical malfunction I think the only technical malfunction is in your. Brain. Matthew? Well, no, it could be. It could be that you know that whoever is controlling it back there is this like you know what's a better visual for the people for the fan base, just a logo and? The logo now now now it's been adjusted. For All. And because of that I'm not sure if a visually we saw yeah, we did say hello to find Daniel Matthew and I m feel let's get Gold Chateau de cones. Correct. There she is. Now let's get going with double trouble today. A couple of we've had some really really interesting teams have already. been part of our focus double trouble I think today's are sort of interesting not as much fantasy stardom here. But let's begin with the Miami Dolphins Matthew whilst talk about the jets in a little bit the dolphins have win projection of six this year up from five wins. Last season they've been busy this off season but let's begin with the player that. I'm trying to be over. Okay. Interesting. Take the over on six when I think six and a half is inappropriately peg number. I'll think about that one maybe having answered by the end of the show I mean no device that process going to be can you just show me what it looks like when you think what's that? What's that process like like? Throughout the course the. The fact that you don't have an opinion right now but over the course of the next hour yeah, I'm GonNa you're GonNa like you're just GonNa like you're GonNa Mall and like I'm GonNa maybe try to get look at their schedule during a break or something we don't have breaks we don't have breaks hey, what is your on a Filibuster I'll take a look at the schedule we saw fields thinking face for those that are watching on youtube the ESPN, APP ESPN fantasy, facebook page, or on twitter you can watch the fantasy APP we're now apparently on the ESPN fan. tastic. Relations. So we saw fields thinking face. What is your thinking face look like? It's this. Okay. Do you guys like I watch a lot of it because obviously have kids you guys ever watch spongebob. No, right. Okay. So Spongebob Best Friend is Patrick and that must are starfish starfish. That's me I'm Patrick. Patrick is always at the same. Yeah. Exactly. Just in terms of mental capacity that's me or Patrick Star just a this. Stare everyone. Exactly. Patrick. If you if you were ever a real human patrick, the voice of Patrick, is probably worth billions because that show is a behemoth rating, it is a and it's it's a fantastic show. But I mean just like we don't need to get too far. I know. What does that just going to say just in terms of creativity in terms of what they what they it's a really well done There's a reason why it's a you know it's a worldwide phenomenon. Okay. So let's level set again again today show will be the Miami Dolphins and the New York jets and you'll see for those that are watching the projected win totals for these two teams the. Jets went seven and nine last year the dolphins five and eleven in two thousand twenty jets have a wind projection of six and a half the dolphins six. These are both of course, courtesy of Caesar's which are two and a half and three games behind the Patriots, and bills tied at nine. Let's fantasy football though Matthew and rare is the case when a player breaks out in a major way. In his fifth pro season devante Parker became rare last year because of day Parker had the breakout that we had been waiting for for not one not two. But five seasons he was incredible from week three on. Don't they parker was wide receiver three in terms of total points that is astonishing and you know I know that. Let you know that I. Think. I'll tell you I'll tell you because. And our producer Matt Harrington picked him up in the Espn war-room fantasy football league s and every single Monday you would come in with a big blank eating grin all about your devante Parker who was again crush for you. This is sixteen team league like there's nothing on the way war. So finding a guy like devante Parker on the wire and then writing them all week long all season long. Yes. Made you somewhat unbearable. Somewhat yes. Entirely. Appropriate description there any. I'm well aware of devante Parker heroics, last year and fantasy football telling story DEVANTE Parker on our war room roster is in some ways illustrative of what the conundrum was last year we were getting offers for devante Parker early on in the season, and if you were to revisit them at the end of the year, you'd think to yourself that's the most insulting offer that has ever been presented earlier. People were offering me insurance running backs like, Hey Tony Pollard for devante. Parker, are you kidding me right? Tony had zero value in that league? Obviously he's fine. LASSIE's but zero value weekly Devante Parker, one of the best wide receivers and football. So. He was wide receiver fifteen in terms of points per game. Now, remember those first two weeks of skew those numbers a little bit. Are you buying the twenty nine hundred was the breakout is regression is Eric Hebron two point Oh remember Eric. Then, came back down to Earth how are you level Devante Parker because my answer in a moment but where are you at so I'm buying it somewhat okay. Okay. So first off I, just want to take a moment here secret squirrel to mention that field use the word illustrative illustrative and conundrum in the same sentence without missing a beat yeah you missed to beat just trying to. Write and I didn't have to come up with those who? Merely trying to reduce shopping. You really are. It's really impressive Wesley early. So good there. Yes. Yeah. Hey. Hailey is suggesting words. You can't say segment we need more than actually extra hour for that one. Exactly that might be a special six part series anyway. So the answer is Emma buying devante, parker breakout field yates, and somewhat. So I buy it to this extent. devante parker is a talented wide receiver. There's a reason why we were also Gaga over him coming out of Louisville why he was a an dover okay. Yeah. He was a very high draft pick and why for many years many fantasy analysts such as myself would right this is the year devante. I mean every single year you would always read this is the year for devante Parker breakout. So we've always known the physical tools were there. We've always known like this isn't some guy that came out of nowhere. This is the guy that produced at a very high level at the college level was drafted as you said, fourteenth overall no one was. Really devante Parker I mean no-one no-one shook their head at that draft pick when he was drafted. Like he was he was highly regarded coming out of college. So here, the reasons why I finish. Having said all that Accounts for one for field because you're not done with your I was not then he just stepped right in. Thank you. For field you're here I appreciate that look. So while eight so I by it's. Somewhat. So is the talent there yes, and it's finally sort of emerging. However. You take a look at the splits here, Preston will, Williams who's the other starting wide receiver for the Miami Dolphins last year missed weeks ten through seventeen. See Look at Devante Parker weeks one through nine. Again, those first couple of weeks it's a little bit skewed but still weeks one through nine devante parker three and a half catches on six three point three targets. Average eleven point five fantasy points per game weeks ten through seventeen five and a half catches a game on nine and a half targets a game nineteen point three fantasy points per game an eight point fantasy points per game difference between when Preston Williams was in the lineup. Versus not so do I think he gets the massive target share that he did last year I don't think the dolphins are as many shootouts as they were last year. I don't because I. do think the dolphins are going to be a better team this year. So I took the over on the six win total. So so do I think devante Parker is talented NFL wide receiver and he's more what he was last year then is for the first four years of his career. Yes. But do I think he's the third best wide receiver as he was from week three on last year I do not I have him at wide receiver twenty-six. Here's why I'm buying it. So beyond the things that you have laid out and you laid out a lot of the details here, we're talking this cost right Devante Parker right now in terms of the ranking do admit twenty-six I also twenty-six, his ADP is wide receiver twenty-eight. So you're getting appropriate value for a player who established himself in this way Devante, Parker volume is not going to be Michael Thomas Deandre Hopkins? Or June players of that. But what is going to have is enough volume enough ability the guys a talented player took five years, but he's still at twenty, five, twenty, six years old this item to a four year forty million dollar extension and I get what you're saying about how the numbers ballooned when Preston Williams was not on the field and pressed Williams's coming back, put the dolphins trust and and Devante Parker. Blue like Monday Parker is not viewed. Now in the same light, he was when Preston Williams both made the roster as an undrafted rookie last year, and then eventually got hurt for the dolphins and. What he is is a very good vertical wide receiver because you pointed out some of the numbers but he was a top twenty player in terms of overall targets per game but he was only twenty in terms of catches per game average four and a half catch per game. Last season did devante Parker but he's enough vertical threat that I think the big plays are GonNa continue to come even if touchdowns aren't quite as productive as they were last year and just talent standpoint matthew, the defensive player at the best defensive player in football last year was to formula he won. The award week seventeen with everything on the line. Patriots have a chance for a first round Pine Devante. Parker took his cookies I mean he was unbelievable last year in that game. So I'm buying the tally also by the way he played well, Matt Game I mean I know like the whatever there was some sort of I guess weird. Yeah. Regain thing where he took his cook post game I don't know what I don't know about that story that you're talking about the I guess it's breaking news, but I'm just going to say he also in addition to whatever this thing was. Very. Very well against. The also the lasting about devante Parker he's had some legendary beefs with Michael Thomas on. Instagram this. Yes. I am going back and forth on the Graham way too much screen time for me during quarantine but let's be honest everybody. Else's same boat I. Do WanNa Talk About Preston Williams. Oh, just a little bit because we asked find you and we'll bring her from. Chateau cone Matico cone volumes are fine. You Bell surrounded by Paparazzi and where Rico celebrated his birthday was a late night last night. I got a bunch of drunk tests from Rico like I dunno like three. Am was kind of ours are like sort of like went down and so I don't know what was going on over there. Chatto to cone to find you and Rico. But. How are you? How one year old? Is One year old he was not drinking is not old enough yet so Stop those. Has Bari's. You don't need a lot to give an excuse to drink or wine. Let's be clear about that. Right. Star is texting Beth. I thought I was texting bathroom ended up with you for enough. All right star Bell press to Williams showed some promise last year then tore his ACL. Look we we should mention this right off the top Allan hearns an Albert Wilson of both opted out for the twenty twenty season. So when you think about the dolphins, there's a target share that's available for not a lot of guys. So Preston Williams could be for a big role this year if he's healthy, so ask us to find your belt. Is He healthy? One of the things we always talk about when somebody tears are ACL is what time of year did it happen if it happened preseason or early in the season you feel pretty confident about the start of the year. If it happens late, you don't feel great about them being one hundred percent by the start of the year think of Carson Wentz but in this case, it was early November for Preston William. So it's right in the middle and that makes week one hit around the ten month mark now could he be ready? Yes but again, and this can be a theme all year long this altered season with no Ta's just Rehab worked for Preston Williams. He's not really getting a chance to do football work until he comes in with the group this fall and there won't be any game action for him to test his knee until you get to week one of the season so whether he's ready for week one or not, and it sounds like he intends to be ready for week one but there's probably going to be a ramp up period in terms of him acclimating to the speed of the game facing contact. There's generally some apprehension for somebody coming off this type of injury especially when you get defenders crowding around you and that's all going to be new to him. So I think it's hard to imagine plunking. Him Right back into where he left off when he sustained the injury could he get there as the season progresses sure but I don't think he starts there immediately and so it makes it a little tricky to value him because we're not really going to see it until the season starts I wanted to jump in on that devante Parker bit as well. Last year I don't think it was a coincidence I season in five years he played all sixteen games. He was injured a lot and I think that's part of why he never really fully realized his talent. So he's off to a good start this year because he comes in healthy and playing a full season. For the first time, that's a great notes to find you appreciate that we will check back in with you at the Chateau Kohn a little bit later on in the show but you know it's interesting field. So she talks about the fact that devante Parker is one hundred percent healthy come into season and preston quote that really stood out to me is like Cudi get there over the course of season. Sure. Didn't sound super confident I I haven't wide receiver forty two and I think I'm too high I'm Gonna I'm going to lower him in my ranks. The other thing that you need to think about is defined reference again shortened offseason lots of changes and remember. There's probably going to be at quarterback change here for the Miami Dolphins Right. We expect Ryan Fitzpatrick to to start the season. But to should come in at some point maybe we'll see but and Chan Gailey is their new offense coordinator. So a lot of change here for the Miami Dolphins, and now you've got Preston Williams who hearings defined it doesn't sound like we expect him to be one hundred percent to start the season massive target share probably coming for Devante Parker at least to start the season. We're you on Preston Williams this year as. We talk about a kind of these late round flyers is he a guy that is a late round fire for you? Because again once he gets healthy, he could have a massive target. Sure. There's not a Lotta guys there or are you thinking like He's somebody maybe I'll pick up on a waiver. We'll be in a waiver wire for me at some point during the season but no one I'm. Drafting probably, both right because aren't a lot of late round flyers guys that you might consider but you also might bypass in the entire league might bypass that player as well like it winner he's being undrafted in forty percent of leaks right now is Preston Williams. So in depending on leaks is if I'M GONNA, ten team League, probably not drafting him I think we'll get drafted in the League which is the League. Yeah I'm fine with it like I think he's a solid player I. think he's Vertical Threat I. Think he benefited some from the fact that they were getting just dusted last year in the first. Five six, seven weeks of the season teams were stealing their cookies stealing cookies. So yeah, I think. He's a fine player. Bucket I. I will get a bucket at some point and now throw Preston Williams in my bucket of flyers. We asked for a bucket like we. It's not that we have a huge budget on the show, but we requested a bucket we put in the bucket request and you fill out the form secret squirrel I. Did I related them I- triplicated them I buried in Peat Moss you send them off what I did. It's It's did you. Did. You send the Nate Ravitz. Oh Ultra. Here at ESPN. That's the mistake. He's trying to can't he's trying he's trying to take the showdown we get it. All right. So let's talk. About their so about the running backs matthew the dolphins last year this is amazing. It's one of my favorite SAS from two, thousand, nine hundred. The dolphins leading rusher last season was Ryan Fitzpatrick. With I believe two hundred and forty, two rushing yards last seat him. There was nowhere to go but up now obviously the deal with the trade of Kenyan drake close to mid season injuries and just in Caleb Balaj. A chance. Only, he got a chance what real quickly before we get into the dolphins running back to address Kaelin block for one second I. Got you know Thirsty Kyle, sent me a note this morning it said take the l did take the Kalem. Balaj. Go. Tell you something. Tell you something? I want to tell you something. They'll put them back up the screen. Daily. There's he can't feel like he got a haircut by the way you feel like from an Afro, a bus got air guy. Decided to a twelve year old man. I was told he was going to stay in the bunker for the entire season. We gotTA somebody to give him a haircut bar people at there have been here for like four months. All right. So. So anyway I dismembered a funny line that I can't say on TV but or whatever we're on but hey, try it. There's a cow. No. Trust me. So. What I was going to say is is Thirsty Kyle, on terms of taking the Ellen Kayla. I'm not gonNA take an Kaelin block and I'll tell you why. I'll tell you exactly why. Matthew. Berry I'm ready for wipe. My argument Kaelin Balaj last year was he was being undrafted in every ESPN league like he was. Running back, sixty, two overall and my argument was this guy that I believe when you look at sort of like I don't believe in Kenyan drake and I was just talking about the Miami running back situation. This is a guy that I think has a path to fantasy relevancy. This is a guy that has a chance for free that has a chance at having a significant role on the dolphins and he got that he started games last year he was an undrafted player now he was awful when he got. there. But it costs people nothing Haas people nothing he was free and so my point is I can't play the game for the players I can't as much as they would all love me too. I can't get out there and run the ball for my can't make the passes or throw the catches. All I can do is say like here's a guy that I believe is going to get an opportunity and it's up to them to walk through that door I can leave the water I can't make him drink. Walk through that door Daniel. Exactly. It's so I got you Kaelin. Bosch to the water. It's not my fault that he couldn't drink. It's not my fault that he didn't drink. That's all. I'm saying it's like you know what like I got you a free guy that started a couple of games from Miami Dolphins. So I'm not taking the L., we're taking a W. Like. I'm not telling victory lap obviously because he was awful but I'm just saying I don't think I don't think saying Hey Caleb Balaj and somebody that will have a role on the dolphins. Last here's a guy that's not being drafted and I believe he's got a very easy path to fantasy relevancy to having a role in the dolphins offense. I. Don't think that's how I got. This is like the exact same thing that happens with a lot of our ells. We suggest that you play this guy we think that Brian Hill is going to be really useful hill was an out where do you think? Brian Hills starting running back for two scores, a lot of points, and then he got a lot of Carolina. The NFL. Okay. Anything else counter here you said, Kayla blocks would have a chance to start and would return on running back sixty to ADP which was basically free. He got there. He reached your upside he was able to start games. Where do you think he finished the year among running back lower? The negative eight seventy five. So he didn't return value and he reached what you were hoping for. But we've been out here. But he wasn't drafted running back sixty to my point is picked up as a free agent. I'm just saying listen. I'm obviously not taking a win or free like I think it's like half an L. I think it's like half an l.. A. Straight Line. Incomplete. Ryan Patrick Dusk Time. All right. The running backs this year Miami are far more talented and I think have far more chances at fantasy relevant. They gave Jordan Howard a two year deal worth ten million dollars and they traded from that breed. It was a fifth round pick going to San Francisco. For one year of map read at least as of right now. Is there dolphins running back that you are targeting this season or did you just punt on them because what happened last year? Me Jordan Howard. Give me Jordan Howard to all day and twice on Sunday Okay Jordan Howard look. I've made this point before but Jordan Howard another guy I always do my ten lists at ten right and one of the list that I usually do is like here's ten unsexy guys that no one will be jealous of that. You drop it will help you when you're league and Jordan how it's GonNa make that list. Got It. John. Howard's GonNa make the loveless as well. When that comes out Jordan Howard is being drafted as running back thirty seven right now running back thirty seven no one likes Jordan Howard. All Jordan Howard has done since he's come into the NFL in two thousand sixteen. He is third in rushing yards he is seven and rushing touchdowns. Through the first ten weeks of last season with the Philadelphia Eagles splitting time with Miles Sanders he was the twentieth best running back in fantasy. Last season, there are only five running backs minimum one hundred carries who a higher percentage of Kerry's that when ten plus yards then Jordan Howard. There are still some bursts. There's still some wiggle is he going to be involved in the passing game? No, he isn't get Miami's not a sexy team and you think this is an offense that, but it's going to be a better offense than you think. They spent the offseason improving their offensive line. This is going to be a decent offensive line decent. It's going to be a decent offensive line. It was brutal one last year it's going to be a decent offense of line so and his only competition his only competition for touches in that Backfield is Matt Brita who cannot stay healthy. Manny. Matt. Brita who leaves game early. Brita who who? Mad Rita who in his NFL career. I want to bring this up. So mad and his NFL career has had three, hundred, eighty, one carries. He has six rushing touchdowns when they get anywhere close who's getting the ball it's Jordan. Howard is go Jordan Howard. I'm not done yet. I'm on to Jordan Howard ran four straight years of six or more rushing touchdowns. The only other active running backs with such a streak Mark Ingram Todd Gurley Melvin Gordon, a Zeke Elliott Jordan Howard is going as. Running back thirty, seven, thirty I like I'm not saying Jordan Howard a world beater but you're telling me that he's not going to finish at assuming health that he's not gonna be better than running thirty seventy is running about twenty last year on a points per game basis for he got hurt and that was the first time he's gotten hurt NFL career. You're saying a lot of things that are all pertinent and they kind of. Steer back to the simplified version of this, which is that Jordan Howard is a very good power behind a better offensive line. As long as he's healthy, he's going to have a role like Jordan Howard has always had a role in his Chicago ten year, and then in his Philadelphia tenure, you follow the money here he's going to score some touchdowns for you. He is like. Adrian Peterson in the sense that he is much more of a runner than any level of a receiver. But this is a guy who's going to be effective enough to return investment here. Yeah. We need need hang on. We built a I made thirsty Kabul the full screen. Okay. Yea. Throw this up. Look at Jordan Howard right here. Look this look at this look at that list. This is the guy that's going is running back thirty seven, right. So lush aren't able to See that because they're listening there is a list right now that appears on the screen of rushing touchdowns inside the tent since two thousand, sixteen number one is Todd Gurley with forty number two Ezekiel Elliott with twenty-seven Number Three Melvin Gordon with twenty, six, number four tied for number four is Jordan. Howard with twenty four. Yeah and all there's five guys on this list and all five of them might the the guy that's going the lowest in terms of ADP is Mark Ingram who's going around running back twenty somewhere in that running back eighteen to twenty two range. I don't know exactly what Ingram's saying he. Jordan the ones I enjoyed Jordan House going running back thirty seven. That's my point. They're all going top twenty running backs except for Jordan Howard who's is running back thirty-seven he's obviously not going to be involved in the passing game I get it. There's some limited upside, but there is a very legitimate shot Jordan Howard finishes year with nine to eleven touchdowns, the inverse of James White but with the same kind of value. Know what you mean that he's just basically a flex play. Well, James White's going to not. escort. A ton of rushing touchdown he'll have probably seventy, seventy, five catches. This year I never do is that what Jordan Howard is just as a power runner supposed to receiving back yeah. Potentially I think there's a little bit more upside to Jordan Howard. Janzen rushing I mean, right exactly. Like if the dolphins are anywhere close to competitive. And He's a guy that could easily have double digit touchdown. All right. Its defining going WanNa get you back into the mix here and ask you about Matt. Brita who of course was formerly part of your beloved forty niners and define what can you tell us about Matt Brutus Health Matthew referenced it often feels like he's just one play away from a nagging injury flaring up during the game. I don't think Matthews totally wrong but I think the recency bias works against Matt Brita here because Earth perception I believe that he misses far more time than he does last Syria ankle injury that did cost him three games. But before the season, if you guys recall back in May, I believe he had a torn peck and he was going to Miss All OTA's. So again, you were hearing about an injury for Matt. Breda even when it wasn't the season, the prior year the year, the forty niners couldn't seem to keep anybody on the field. He missed two games and he did play injured in a number of them and part of the reason was they needed him on the field. So it was like he could never really get fully healthy and part of that was just the deficit, the forty niners operating at because so many guys. Were injured when he was brought into the forty niners remember he was brought in to be a backup to Carlos Hyde. He's got a small frames five ten about one ninety I don't think they ever envisioned. He would end up being the starter. But after he showed some flash in his rookie season, the following year jerk McKinnon who was brought in is out with an acl tear and then he doesn't get right for. Last year. So I think married is workload increased just as result of the personnel situation around him camera wolf is saying that he's GonNa Lineup wide receiver some now that he's with the dolphins I think depending on how they use him he could be really valuable for fantasy but I agree that Jordan Howard is likely to be the one who's getting the ball near the end zone I. Mean just make sense with his size. Thank you very much for that, and we'll come back to you and just a little bit couple of notes on that one is he does have this going for me is incredibly fast. He was the fastest ball carrier per next Gen stats both twenty eighteen and twenty, nine, thousand, nine season when you find the single fastest play. And we have them as as you saw on the graphic for those that are watching each of us you Daniel I have them around running back forty or forty. ONE IS ADP forty-three. So we think he's being drafted appropriately. You've sort of highlighted some of the limitations we talk about the. Chance that the speed can really rear itself the question I think is pretty simple. He has never. Excuse me he has. Matt Brita in career has no games with more than seventeen carries. He's played for three seasons. So the question would be whether Miami gives him the opportunity that San Francisco was unwilling to, and typically when it comes to running back, evaluations were pretty trustworthy in Shanahan. Right he node is doing with that position. The fact that he hasn't been willing to do it maybe raises a bit of a red flag that perhaps nobody will be willing to give him consistently above fifteen or eighteen even twenty carries. He's miss five games the last two years. So He's appeared in just twenty seven games. The last two seasons antenna, those twenty seven games field he played under twenty snaps. Like I mean I, it map read it. Unbelievably talented guy, and he's clearly very tough. But I cannot tell you how many times I'm watching a niner's game and like and there's Matt Brita limping to the sideline I hear just can't I mean like and then like always gonna come back and he's GonNa try and you know and like you're you're starting them and you're hoping and just listen rooting for the kid. But. His health concerns that have happened throughout his career are among the other reasons why I'm all in on Jordan Howard at his ADP of running back thirty seven he's basically free as an employer. You've got a lot on your plate, running your and showing workplace safety and much more. So leaving your hiring to the one place that makes finding qualified candidates fast navy ziprecruiter DOT COM Slash Ozo- ziprecruiter sends your job to over one hundred of the Web's leading job sites, but they don't stop there with their powerful matching technology ziprecruiter skins, thousands of resumes. 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So what are you waiting for me Math Bertie to try to read alive read better than the make this bearded Daniel doc you think it's easy to crush alive read well, Co Hosting A. podcast with a you know with a stupid tattooed bearded Weirdo over there Well, it's not easy because Daniel made this font really really small for me so that I couldn't read this but too bad Daniel Dopp because I read the live before and you try to sneak one past me and got me to say something Ron Burgundy style that I don't WanNa say. But Hey, at least there's never been a better time to switch to geico save an extra fifteen percent when you switch by October seventh Daniel DOPP VISIT GEICO DOT COM to learn more. Pretty. Good. I'm really proud of you. Thank you very much. So he thought I was just going to Ron Burgundy at and just read what he arrived Ryan Burgundy Yeah. Let's finish up the Dolphins Matthew with Mike? CASTRUCCI. Awesome player last year for them down the stretch he is being drafted right now is the fifteenth tight end all those draft close to fifty percent of leagues. He asked sanity. So are you buying the high frame is a is a breakout candidate this year. Bought, it took it home played with it, put it on a shelf in an appropriate place. Yeah go to bed with it at night. Are you kidding me hundred percent? I'm in on the hype of my Koseki let me read you some names, some names we re just some names. Gesture Rogers Ricardo. Louis. Malcolm Perry. To Kim Grant. Matt. Collins Isaiah Ford. Those are those racecar drivers. Yeah. Those are my other. You need the other pass catchers they have in Miami you heard to defined you talk about Preston Williams, not going to be a hundred percent to start the season. Right? We we've talked about the fact that Alan hearns and Albert Wilson have already opted. I actually like Isaiah four I think he's a nice player kind of like Mac Collins what I mean like. But I'm not worried about any of these guys like you talk about target share Mike, he's going to get a massive target share. You think about what he did over the second half of last year from week nine on. This is a kid that was the eighth best tight end fantasy both in total points on on a per game basis, he was ranked over Hunter Henry over that stretch hundred course going about five or six rounds earlier than might Koseki. In those games from weeknight on a guy that average over seven targets game six among tight ends, he ran thirty five routes game those second most. He was first in end zone targets. Like. He actually was tied for the most endzone targets in the NFL Jared Cook, Mark Andrews Mon Mike Koseki at the position at the position right now matthew he's an incredible athlete. Yeah. He's their best biddle, the field target they have right now they have a dearth of pass catchers besides the two wide receivers that we talked about. He's reliable. I love this. This is a fun stat because it's anytime. You can be lumped in with other Travis Kelsey or George kittle. It's a good staff for tight end. Tight End Mikey joined George biddle as the only tight ends last year with fifty or more targets and zero drops. Right. So when the balls being thrown to Mike Ezekiel generally speaking he's down with it. So although you mentioned earlier, the dolphins are gonNA. Have quite as many games where they're playing from behind and playing in shootouts. I still think they're going to be enough or they are going to have Sundays where it's all right. It's not out by eighteen in the fourth quarter can. Think it's going to be a balanced offense i. think it's just going to be a balanced offense is what I'm saying and so I, just I think people are sleeping on him I can't believe he's going tight and fifteen again you and I both have as a top eleven guy and if he finishes his Titan Seven or eight that would not shock me, he was another guy that was very highly thought of coming out of college and so now in his second year in the NFL I'm expecting big things for my Koseki secret score. What he got, do you have luscious long locks like me or s hard partly the style comb over like field or just? Something considerably less than what field and I have. A new season, it's sport clips, haircuts guys are Guy Smart Style clean certified our stores and processes are better cleaner and safer than ever get yourself back in the game today with our legendary MVP experience enjoy a hot steam towel relaxing shampoo and a winning cut. Shampoo. Matthew is what people put on the top of their head or stuff that's up there checking online today, select your Stylus, get a text when you are up to bat and walk out with confidence it's easy and convenient, and you'll feel like an MVP Hayfield you know you ever. People talk about sub tweeting. That's that's the whole thing. What's what's the? What's the real live version of being sub tweeted? When somebody like reads live read at your? Restaurants. That passive aggressive and felt like a little bit felt. Like you were. Just. Aggressive State unaggressive. I don't WanNA misconstrued anything. Okay. Yes. Calling you bald. Fall as balding meal I'm ball ing you've been hold on strong for. You know it's interesting. I posted a on instagram where you can follow me at Matthew Berry tm are I'm on Matthew Berry t martin all forms of social media except the fantasy APP where merely at Matthew Berry download the fantasy life APP one, hundred percent free. But what I would say here field is that I recently posted a picture, my son, my oldest son David turned twenty two. Okay and I posted a picture of. Technically. My Stepson, right. So I, I have a picture of when I came into his life. He was ten. And so I posted a picture of me when I was when he was ten and a picture of us when he was twenty two on his birthday, I can't believe this kid's twenty two that kind of post and a lot of the comets were like Whoa Berry aging pretty well, like just like like you got old quick but you then you held on. Like 'cause I like basically the same amount of hair from like twelve years ago is what I'm saying is is like like I had a little bit a patch here. It's Kinda gone a little bit more of my forehead, but otherwise, it's phase actually a win to have the patch con. Maybe. It might be hundred of I'm just saying like if you looked at the photo like I got a lot of the same thing where it's like like. You you got old quick but then like it sort of leveled off. Yeah. The Way to do it if you're to age all at once right and then just live the rest of your life like that Matthew you're GonNa look good when you're eighty. What makes you think I'm not there now. This is an appropriate metaphor in comparison. I think to the next player that we're GONNA talk about. It was not long ago. That lady on bell was an MVP type player in fantasy football. The guy was an absolute fantasy superstar and then what happened he got old quick he got quick but he also did he taunted the fantasy. God. taunted the fantasy God's fantasy Karma. Surreal. Thing. You know what he did is he said he told everyone draft number one overall and yes, I'm gonNA report and he's tweeting all these things out and then what does he do? He doesn't show up and then he's he's giving it on the record interview. Jeremy Fowler he's like I'm GonNa come there during the steelers bye week he doesn't. He taunted the fantasy God's like if he had said, no, I'm holding out till I get a new deal or I just don't want to play this year been fine. But he taunted the fantasy God's he told everyone is still draft himself overall number one and what happened is he was he was a massive bust. He was a massive bus hasn't been the same player since. All right. So Levy on bell last year was his first season with the new? York. Jets signed that very lucrative contract with them in free agency he finished last year is running back eighteen points per game basis at fourteen point three, three points per game you Daniel. Nye. All have them ranked as running back seventeen. His ADP is running back eighteen. It feels as though everybody is sort of seeing levy on bell. The same way which I think we've reached the stage that I was sort of referencing from lay beyond belt whose only twenty eight by the way, which is crazy to think. Lady on bells on a top ten running back. He may have a couple of top ten weeks this upcoming year but it's volume driven, and if you look at the jets backfield while they did sign the ageless frank core and they did draft. Michael. P. Run out of Florida in the fourth round I have a hard time believing that lady on bell is not slated for a massive work share again this year and I gotta say one thing about lady I'm bill in the past Matthew you're right He has been a player that has been frustrated in the public, but I really respect what lay beyond been for the jets and see signed with them. Last off season. He has been reliable. He's been durble. He's been a really good team leader. He's been respectful. The organization I think he's Kinda matured in a way that I have a lot of respect for and think bodes well for him remaining a big part of the offense this year but the ceiling tapped it feels like the ceiling quite limited. So I'm going to have a surprising take for you here. As you know, I've been you know Anti Levi anti-labour and Belen Heaven for awhile. I think has a really good year this year. Like. I think he's got a shot at it. I got a shot at it. I wouldn't draft in there. But I will tell you this like I'm with you I look he is not the same explosive player he was. On that? Yeah. No, I'm with you there. I'm not arguing that. But. What I am going to tell you is that I think this jets offense is GonNa be a lot better than it was last year was stuck in the mud and hang on. Let me finish. What I'M GONNA? Tell you here is that that's offense would sam. DARNOLD under center higher year will be helpful and more importantly what are the jets do this off season I think they have a real front office now. I know you agree about that? You're Joe Douglas Fan. As am I and they improve their offensive line dramatically dramatically improved their offensive line You know Connor McGovern George fant. Alex. And then they drafted MCI Becton and I, don't know if people like has anyone see remember game of thrones no member. Yeah owns right. So game of thrones had the character the mountain. Yes. He was just like this like insanely like that's what MCI back in MCI Becton is. I'm not making these numbers up he's eight foot ten and a thousand pounds. That's impressive. Yes. No in also says. He's six, seven, three, sixty, four. That's he's he's a massive massive man and so behind a better offense of line with a more efficient offense, I think insane volume for Lavar Leeann Bell and we know what a good pass catcher is i. think he's going to be a value at his current. ADP. I don't I. Don't know he may get to top ten but I just think he is. I'm in only beyond ballad is ADP this year. I actually think he does better assuming health, which is always you know but assuming health I think he finishes better than running back eighteen this year. Okay. So I just sort of feel appropriately slotted look I think he's got a chance finish as like a low in rb to because of the volume but matthew so you may have sent me a text want to hear the text. Me So a second ago you just said Hold on. Don't say another word meanwhile the next time I get going to start talking you just bulldoze right through it. Yeah. Well, Thursday constantly text. Okay. I. Just asked if you want to read the tenths of you don't want the I want the decks, but there's the. Field. Let them read the twin? Do say it's too thirsty kyle just got a new. He's proud. Here comes like four days ago. So proud did you go sport clips? I would hope you went to support Yes yes. Yes. He's is of course there you go. There you go good job hot towel everything around at tastic at their MVP service. Fantastic. All right. Good. Bell had thirteen games as a top thirty running back the only running backs with more twenty nineteen Leonard Fournette, Austin Actor, Chris, McCaffrey Ezekiel Elliott. He definitely has a high floor, those sorts of cows little tweet text there. S Not. Bad not bad. So again, this is the point that I was trying to make before someone. So rudely cut me off. I think he had two hundred and forty five carries last season. You get a ton of carries again this year he's GonNa, catch a bunch of passes exactly does he's one of the best passerini backs in the NFL still. He had zero carries for twenty plus yards season. I believe it's been four years since bells at a thirty plus yard Kerry. There is basically zero explosive plays coming from Lake on bell which I don't see the top ten upside that you just mentioned outperforming. ADP. Because I don't think this is going to score a ton of touchdowns as year. My reservations are that who is scaring in the passing game and we'll talk about the past countries in a second. I think the lady on Beleive appreciation for the player. He has become the man he's become for the past year with the jets. I. Just think he's appropriately slot as a low end rb to that's where he is. I. Feel comfortable him there. I'd say I say the top fourteen fantasy player. How about that? The free finished top fourteen fancy where I'm Jay say leave me I'm bell's not going to. Want to do aboard down here. Okay good. I say, Libyan Bellona points per game basis finishes at the top fourteen fantasy running back I on Bellingham Post regained basis does not finish as a top fourteen running back in two thousand, twenty put on board the Board. Now, I would just one less thing. Let's let's call eight games minimum that seems like a reasonable eight to ten. What do you think is reasonable now we don't know how many games the NFL is GonNa but I now. Half of the half of the game, the player jets play. How about that? Okay leave it there. Matthew we're going to talk about the wide receivers in a second but first from you. So we had this conversation I love els. Anyway go ahead a few shows ago we had this conversation as I said, I don't often like to position Shuji you pick this wide receiver from this team or that wide receiver from the same team because wait wait wait wait before we move on. Can you just let? No No, you know the audience does not like this right I think some of them do I think you'd be surprised. All right. Hang on but I think they do want this. They don't appreciate the the interruptions but I do think they appreciate me trying to get the information and if you wanted some insurance for beyond bell. Do you prefer Frank Gore Orla Michael P Ryan neither is not worth the roster spot. Okay. But I think that's I think that's a fair question ask. I think that's a fair question as secret squirrel your thoughts. I would also roster neither of them right I also, but I get. It's a good thing to bring up. Yes. When we're talking about, can I? All right go. Haley can I go. Okay. All right. Here we go. I can go. As I was saying earlier, we rarely want to have people have to say I I'm choosing this wide receiver or that wide receiver because many cases they're not being drafted at. The same place right Julio Jones versus Calvin. Really well, it's a first round investment or maybe a second round investment versus let's say fourth fifth or sixth round investment. But. As we discussed with the Bengals Tyler Board in AJ. Green were right next to each other. We have a kind of close thing with the jets right now between Jamison crowder and Bershad Perriman who I know is not being drafted in a ton of leaks but based off of rankings and also based off where I think these guys wind up when eighty ps are reset as we get closer to the start of the year, you may be choosing between these two jets wide receivers. And I think it's sort of a fundamentalism and you have to make do you want chase the volume of Jason Jamison crowder and the familiarity he's a, he's a Adam Gates preferred player. Or do you want the upside approach pyramid who last year became fantasy rockstar in the playoffs and was unbelievable in the high flying buccaneers offense which do you prefer or are you excited about potentially both of them being relevant this year? Talk, you can go now I just WanNa make sure I don't want to be polite replied I apologize field. To me this is gonNA sound like I'm fencing, but it sort of depends. Because it depends on my roster construction when Nelson Secret Squirrel it does it depends on your construction when you get to that spot in your draft again. Crowd at thirty nine. I have a paramedic forty one so I suppose. If you're just going by Meringues I have crowder, two spots higher and I think that he will be much more consistent fantasy asset. But again, like it abundant sort of how you've constructed roster, you get to that spot and you're like, do I need somebody like you know? Is it a legal? You're starting three wide receivers and just need a guy that can get me like consistent. You know like you know ten points a week, the mets crowder or if you like I'm pretty good at wide receiver I wanna take a swing at defenses then it's paramount. So I think it depends on what you need at that point in the draft and so they're very different players I. will say this. It really liked. Reshad pyramid much. We talked about with Devante. Parker it's interesting that we're doing in the same show I feel like paramount is Kinda the same way just with a much smaller sample size. Bouchard. Perriman. Was a first round draft pick by the Baltimore Ravens K. Hat stuff suffered issues with drops with. Around the League quite a bit. You know founder home in. Tampa Bay last year injuries to Mike Evans injury to Chris Godwin he suddenly. Emerging. But then over the final five weeks, those guys get hurt and suddenly Bershad Perriman if you watch those games that I watched them all very closely for shot paramount became the OH. That's the guy that was drafted as a first round or like it wasn't some of it was junk time but I'm telling you this is a guy that that ran precise routes that made contested catch that had great hands like you're like Oh. That's the guy we saw in college, and so I feel like he turned a corner, he's taking the Robbie Anderson role obviously because Robbie Anderson moved. On from the jets to the Carolina Panthers here again, I like if you didn't have Bershad Perriman last year or if you'd sort of tuned out, you may not realize how good he was again from weeks fourteen on he was the third best wide receiver fantasy and Thomas and Jebron. The only guys who better than him and he was just a nominal as as I know you would say Is that you know the people wondering like? Okay. Well, then why are we not more optimistic? Is that like it was the perfect storm of circumstances, the best offense to be playing for fantasy football last year this is just in my estimation small sample size, and now he goes to a new team and one of the worst offenses to be playing for fantasy football this year but I I. Just. This is not an offense that I am particularly inspired by at the moment. However, there is a player that can really change that, and that's Sam Darnold who I don't quite know where to land on Sam Donna right now because prior to Cam Newton signing with Patriots, I would've said that came Sam Darnold was the best quarterback in the AFC east for the two thousand and twenty season. But I know there are some people that are still wondering a twenty three year old. So we still really young but like why hasn't come around yet for Sam? darnold who was the third overall pick in the draft a guy who at once was viewed as a potential number one overall pick in the draft. So but using SAM darnold sort of a jumping off point to basically everybody else matthew is there a player that we haven't yet brought up that interests you as draft target from the jets? Before we move off Sam Darnold. I just want to say I don't think people realize this. From Week ten on. Last. Year. He was the eighth best quarterback and fantasy in terms of total points. He was QB twelve in points per game. Like again, this is a guy that had mono for the first half of the like and so second year in the system to your point he's only twenty three. Here's a guy the second overall pick in the NFL draft like third WHO's third? Sorry. Yep. So Oh, that's right. SAQUON was to. Sorry should have been the second overall pick in the NFL draft, but he was third. I know. There's something there was Sam Darnold, I know Adam gase as an easy punching bag. For. A lot of critics online I actually think this offense could be better than people give credit for. That's all I'm GONNA say there in terms of other people, pass catchers, the rookie Denzel, mims. It's sort of interesting but I will tell you that everything you're hearing out of jets camp is that Chris Herndon who last year was a very trendy sleeper at the tight end position is due for a very, very big role and I think there's a good chance that Chris Herndon is a post hype sleeper this year. Yeah. I like the call and Chris hurting their lot incredible athlete a guy who played Miami they've had a a very good track record of of. Developing tight ends have gone on to very successful NFL career. So I'm interested by Chris Herndon as well in Chris Herndon as well despite. Being a rookie in two thousand, eighteen years. He was tired and sixteen in terms of total points. That was a bad bad offense that year I'd say another guy that I'm keeping an eye on filing. Chris Herndon away. For potential late round tight end consideration. I'm not sure I feel totally great about him being my only tight end going into week one of the season again, the jets are interesting team should be much more competitive. I do think though that just. Your best defensive players or maybe two of your three best defensive players or gone. Both Quinton Williams. Sorry both Cedar Moseley and also Jamal Adams now I. Think it's GonNa be a long season in some ways for the jets but we shall see a dale social questions. Field. Here's the thing about social questions we did. We did some stuff yesterday. We don't have a ton of great ones. So do me a favor if you're watching this live at fantasy focus? Folk on twitter and if you're not able to do that on twitter, you can always do it in the Youtube Channel. Not Cool Keith who unfortunately cannot be here due to social distancing still watching our channels the way that he always did last year. So say, Hi to Keith in there as well as Mama da she's also in the Chat Mama. She's Dot Mama on twitter. Right? She is is at Mama on the twitter at Keith lipscomb on the twitter as well and what are we got secret squirrel by the way as long as you're online if you're if you're tweeting US questions or posting them on Youtube, do favor and go to itunes and give us a five star review. If you could do that helps us out. It helps keeps the show something we show to advertisers. It just would help out your buddies here at the Oh six zero. So please please do that. Oh. Yeah. See, and if you're watching live, you have a little graphic arts as download and subscribe to fantasy focus wherever you do that with podcasts. Love it. This one comes from sequel of John, which veteran back are you most likely to target in round three todd? Gurley Levy on Bell David Johnson I realized this is kind of a range question, but still just a fun conversation since we're talking about Levy on bell today. Well, I. will say that the guy that I like going in that range more than all three of those guys is Chris Carson. WHO Who I think is parentally underrated and has like again his competition for touches are Rishaad Perry who's Rashad Penny who's GonNa start the year on pop. Carlos Hyde, who's on a six team in like four seasons or DJ Dallas who win the when he was drafted Pete Carroll said the guy's real excited to get him on special teams like Chris Carson's going to get a massive workload on a very good offense that has run heavy but he asked me of those three guys give me David Johnson who we've talked. And I'M GONNA save some of the best of David Johnson until we actually talk about them as a team during double trouble, which will be shortly but. I don't know if he's a sleeper and honestly because he's a player that all of us know, right right. But I think David Johnson sleeper based off how he is being drafted on and what I think is expectations should be in Houston later on this year. So yes, David Johnson be my pick as well. Going to get a massive workload there. Max One we have comes from at Ryan UC fan says, are you willing to start? Kareem Hunt at flex every week he's in a twelve team half point pip. Yeah. It's right around the territory we had. We. Had Him on a double trouble last week we hit the browns and we talked about him being like a top twenty to twenty five is running back and by proxy of that then I think he actually is a pretty strong flex play. I know we tend to lean towards wide receivers and flex, but and a half PR especially. On cream on totally and look I mean it's one of the things it's like tell me the rest of your roster. Yeah I mean right but guess do I think he's going to have enough value to be worthy as a flex play in at twelve team half-point PTR hundred percent eye. Cream. Hunts can have a real nice here. All right. Let's head back to the bunker for the GEICO trivia question of the day with Kyle. SOPPE righty. define. Sharply defined. You have sharpie today. Let's hope. Finding. Sharpie. All right I bring a kyle already devante Parker scored a hundred and ten point two more points than any of his flex teammates not quarterback running back receiver tight end he scored one hundred, ten point two more points than any of them who is the less dolphin receiver Tau score has flex teammates at least ninety points in a season. You picked the most of. Questions but do ever Dolphin I've morals and much more straightforward promise. Dolphin. Receiver. I'm and ask for a hint pre two, thousand or post two, thousand, two, thousand, post, two, thousand. Two thousand, I mean the find your come on. Come on. Hopes it's twenty year. Thirty thousand dolphins wide receivers. I've got two ideas. So some have to have more memory than others is what you're saying. Yes. Yes I mean, I'm. Blanking on. Good dolphins receivers not thinking about them. But they were all pre two thousand. Yeah Right. Right. Right. Right WHO's so obvious excited for not remembering. Marsupial season after. All right. I. Got it. Wrong. I got it. Wrong. What are you gots to find you ladies? Yeah. I think. It was Jarvis Landry. O. Guarantee that we haven't yet because. You're. GonNa get Jarvis Landy down. Not, even one hundred percent sure. He was a dolphins receiver but I think he was for season Damadola Danny Amendola was. Play for them by other was Chris Chambers. Chambers, is A. Jarvis Landry ABS-. Stars twitter was popular saying Landry was second. Feel they should have stuck with your gut here. Chris Chambers is the correct answer Taylor Bolton chiming in on twitter is one of the. Chris came. Sir We landry played with so many. Bad the year. Really listen. To. Jarvis Landry is such a great gas Chris. Chambers is such a great poll. I would it. We could have sat here for an hour and it was like Christian Oh. Yeah. Yeah and Danny Amendola. Payroll guests on every possible level. But. It was really the only dolphins wide receiver that I can think of for some reason, I just blanked on and bed. So happy you are something and by the way I'm still I'm still in the league I think you are still only technical tile is technically owning all of us but still. Thirty three show violations for you matthew throughout the. Day. Today you might have doubled him today. On yesterday now you were you know we WANNA see guys string back-to-back coaches. Loved that Hey, guys. Let's bring back toback good days together. Let's do it. One, hundred percent. Do. Has, been issue for me. Speaking of consistency I am a company man wrote Oh pass dot com. If you want subscription to ESPN plus you WANNA watch the fantasy show with Matthew Berry secret squirrel on and off just did a new episode yesterday. It's fantastic. You're GonNa read all of clay stuff right ESPN plus great. 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Phinsider Daily : A look at the Dolphins offensive weapons on the eve of training camp

The Phinsider

27:47 min | 2 years ago

Phinsider Daily : A look at the Dolphins offensive weapons on the eve of training camp

"Low again dolphin fans and welcome to a special edition of finsider daily right here on the finsider dot com and earlier this week. We announced that we're going to start doing short podcast about fifteen to twenty minutes to bring you. The latest news on the Miami Dolphins our favorite football team earlier this week so Monday. Matthew cannot have dropped his Hans Solo podcast discussing the defensive backs and the publicist than Sun yesterday was bright years and himself. They discussed the defensive line. We'll take impact Brian floors will have today. I'm going to touch own skill positions mostly mostly the halfbacks Kenyan Drake Keel Balaj the rest of the group and then the wide receivers who's going to step up who might not and of course the tight ends were waiting from like just icky to break out dwayne Allen's on the public. Let's not forget about Dermott smyth and nickel leary. All of those players could have some type of impact in two thousand nineteen that is a rundown what we're going to talk about on today's edition of insider daily Hello Again Dolphin fans and welcome to the July twenty fourth edition of finsider daily and as we talked about earlier in the show matthew cannot Erin Son Ardi dropped their podcast. Go check those out but now this house is turn in here. I am Hans Solo. Just let Cannata was. I don't have any friends and I'm going to do my best to make this a very very entertaining podcast to do my best to make you guys enjoy all the dolphins information that we give you here at the finsider so without further ado let's get started and the first thing we need to touch on is that we are officially one day away from the start of the Miami Dolphins Training Camp One day away guys from the start of Miami Dolphins football. We know there is a new era in Miami. It's something that we have become accustomed to as Dolphin fans for many many years. This is kind of the new normal around here and you know we say it every year but things just seem to be different down there in south Florida. Stephen Ross finally seems to have made the right decisions decisions. Chris greer is now in charge whether that plays out is yet to be decided but early on lots of good movie made you bring in a coaching staff you prime away from New England the evil empire up there is hope that finally things are different. Finally it's the Miami Dolphins turn to regain that A._F._C. East and become competitive once again. I know Dolphin. Fans are very deserving this something that many of us doubt will ever happen again and we have to feel envious of those fans of the seventy two seventy three dolphins. They gotta see the superbowls. They got to see the perfect team for us. We got Dan Marino and Fresno amazing of a quarterback Dan Marino was he never quite got the ring. It's a travesty my opinion something that absolutely needs to be changed whether that's him getting one as being a part of the Dolphins Front office or whatever it may be. I am very very curious very slow to see whether or not some these younger fans would trade all of those Dan Marino seasons all that great elite play seeing one of the greatest quarterbacks if not in our opinion in my opinion the greatest quarterback in n._F._l.. History would you trade in those days. What did you train all those records for seventy two team? Would you trade all that in for the two thousand nineteen Miami Dolphins go out there the sheer go nineteen or no I absolutely would I love you Dan Marino. You're my favorite football player. That will never be another quarterback like you. There will never be a player player that I envy Covet love as much as you but at the end of the day man if it came between you and a perfect season I would personally I would pick the perfect season. I'm sorry didn't I'm going to throw a pool up in this. I think it's very good topic. I might throwing up on twitter's well. Let me know in the comments tweet me chrome idea. Do whatever it is. Let me know how you would approaches. Would you take that nineteen seventy two team. Would you take that perfect season or would you take Dan Marino and all those accolades you know the the good years the elite play you know all the good that came with it but at the end of day again I'm still here. I've been dolphins fan since nineteen ninety-three. I'm still here and I still have not seen a super bowl pizza. Pitch your a bastard but let's get back on topic here guys. Let's talk about the two thousand nineteen season. Let's talk about the skill position players and we're not gonNA talk about all offensive line. We're not gonNA talk about quarterback. Those are two things that we will probably discuss on the flagship which debuts Thursday morning <hes> that is going to be the first podcast. I believe it'll be right up before the start training camps at check that out guys it is but we are going to look at halfbacks I when you're looking at this running back group. There's one guy that stands out among the rest and that in my opinion is Kenyan drake the twenty five year old from Alabama wasn't the biggest fan of him when he was drafted in fact a quick story kind of funny. I think he had a couple of fumbles in his rookie year. I went out there and I tweeted that I wouldn't even let him hold my daughter because of his foaming issues obviously bigger fan of him now very very much respect what he's done the type of player he's become and I think big big things are in Kenya Drake's future <hes> you might not find bigger okay. MIC is definitely a bigger <unk> Kenyan drake fan than me. I'm sure there's a lot more out there but I'm a huge Kenyan Drake Fan. Get all your shares and fantasy football this season sorry for spitball folks but when you look at what he did last year with limited opportunities a hundred and twenty carries five hundred thirty five yards four and a half yards per carry four touchdowns as a running back so then you look at that and <hes> you see a guy that like we said underutilized but then you look at his receptions fifty-three receptions four hundred seventy seven yards he's averaging nine yards per catch and five touchdown so we actually had more receiving touchdowns. They did rushing and again that has a lot to do with the opportunities he saw has lots of the skill set because when you look at Kenyon Drake one of the things you saw college was a guy that can go out there and lineup as a wide receiver can make plays Downfield and when you have that type of player I mean that is a very very good thing to have it very very rare. Skill set the not all running backs possess and when you look at him compared to some of these other guys I mean Kenyan Drake as quick. He's decisive and you can make every move more times than not. He found a way to break away from tackles found a way to make plays when given the opportunity so for me. I'm very excited see Kenyan drake and doing an offense that in my opinion can feature his skill set. He's a guy that is probably the best pass catcher the backfield and in my opinion the best running back on the roster yes I said it can drake halfback one. He should ball out and should get a lion share of the carries this season the coaching staff should put all their faith and trust in him and let him do what he was born to do but everyone should temper their expectations because the fact that matters this this is a new coaching staff that is coming from New England and we know how New England utilizes those running backs. It's kind of a timeshare. It's it's Kinda rough. Your fantasy football player to be completely honest but I do believe Kenyan drake is going to get a lion share. Those carries like I said and other player that is going to get bulk the workload and a guy that dolphins twitter's overly overly excited on he's a guy that my good friend and Jake Mendel touched on in our in the Hunt Book Club last week we will tweet it out. We will talk about Kaelin Balaj more as the weeks go one but he is a player that you know a picture of him. Surface surfaced this off season. The Guy is looking Jack as all hill and people just went crazy for that and you can understand why because when you look at it in college demand scored eight touchdowns and yes he wasn't the most productive running back but when you hear that Guy Scores Eight touchdowns in a football game it could be peewee. Football it could be a A._F._l.. X._F._L. CFL sorry too soon on the A._F._l.. It could be any league possible. If you're scoring eight touchdowns football game I mean that's pretty damn impressive even if you're a quarterback so much like his caused statistics were skewed by that big eight touchdown game his N._F._l.. Career was kind of the same and we know he was a rookie. <hes> we know he was drafted with that. Pick that the Miami Dolphins receive for J. Giant. I personally was very very upset when J._J.. Got Traded Huge Fan. My wife was actually going Labor. You're not true went down so little fresh. There is nothing in the world that I would want more than my daughter so J._J.. Good riddance not pull stance Barath like he did trying to take over the seven kingdoms. It did not work bad bad choice. <hes> love my daughter. My wife shout out to you guys is but you have Kaelin Balaj here. You got a guy that you know. He's just sitting there looking for opportunities in again New England style offense Chatto shake from New England. They may implement that kind of stable running backs Aaron sure we hope can injury goetze carry sure we hope Kim obliges at number two BA. Let's not forget about some of the other backs on the roster and you look at Kenneth Pharaoh. I believe it was the A._F._C. all-time leading single-game rusher <hes> Patrick Larry Guy that people believe could have that REX burkhead type role more Walton on in miles gaskin gas was seventh round pick this year speedy speedy running back out of Washington guy that I do believe we'll get special teams duties. Almost right away should be the return man in my opinion but again training camp hasn't even begun. We are one day away probably say about ten more times so so I do like malls gasping. I think he's going to have his niche. She's going to be a speed Strahl backfield. You know maybe that guy that can can shocks and people you know we've seen these late round picks turn into studs and especially at the running back position so why Kamal's gaskin not come in with that skill set knock come in there be that speedy scap back make plays tosses the stretch plays outside and then go out there and make the places as a receiving back so I do think miles gaskin whether or not this year in the future. We'll have a role in Miami another guy that I think this has lot more to do with his off. The field issues it does with the type of player that he is on the field and we're talking about more Walton. The five foot nine running back out a Miami the U <hes> we all saw that tape of him getting phased by the police officer broke away from that like it was a frigging can one hundred and fifty pound DB strewn through the Taser off from ran right past these cops that is a player that all jokes aside. I one of my team and I mean I say all jokes aside but when you look at what mark won't did in college you saw productive running back you saw that aside from his size there was very little that you know he could not do with the ball on his head and admittedly enough. I thought he would have a bigger role in Cincinnati at least cutting some of those Giovanni Bernardin Joe Mixing carries that obviously did not happen. Cincinnati was dreadful last year so maybe it's I better but what you get with more won't again is a guy who I believe could be starting N._F._l.. Caliber running back I believe is a guy that if he can stay out of trouble off the field you know the marijuana possession the carrying a gun breaking away from the COP like we've touched on early if he can stay out of trouble. This guy is twenty ninety two years old disguise still limb for him. We've seen plenty of players one side you know they fall out a league they get into more trouble never heard from again on the other hand there these guys that become model citizens become everyday. Go out there do the right thing. Go out there in the community. You become a role model for some of these guys. That is what more won't needs to do that is with this coaching staff needs to do and I think that is the biggest key here is at this coaching staff has proven in the past and I mean I say this loosely because we all know bill. Belichick is the guy their New England we all know he is the when calling the shots but I mean he is a guy that went out there. Broadening Josh Gordon brought in these other players. You know might not have fit in other places gave them a chance. Turn them into caliber N._F._l.. Players I think that is what this coaching staff is intending on doing. I think they're going to bring you know the press I and Williams the mark wants. They're going to bring in these guys who have tons of potential in the field young players that can still be changed can still be coached up on and off the field and I think that's what a lot of us have to remember that these football players are just people and no these guys that have human emotions. They've done good. They've done bad and it's how they overcome those things how they build upon themselves as a person. I think this coaching staff is the perfect fit for these guys for some of these troublemakers and I hope that oppressed in Williams. I hope that mark will and I hope then a couple years. Those are the players that we're talking about here. In my those was little those players who many people doubt it in turn their careers around that is what I want to see. I'm getting goosebumps thinking about one oppress women's out there and become that Randy Moss. I WANNA see more go out there and become that second coming frank or that is what I wanna see out of these guys whether or not that happens I mean we're the Miami Dolphins. It probably won't but that is the type of stuff that only coaching staff do with some of these players almost seem to develop these guys before we get into the wide receivers tight ends. I just WanNa talk about fullback Chandler Cox Guy. The dolphins drafted from Auburn. I love saying that name. This is a physical physical guy can make plays can honestly act as in another offensive Lineman as you saw C._k.. Parrot tweet out during the N._F._l.. Off Season so Chandler Cox the sky's the limit I think he's going to have a huge huge <hes> role in this offense. I think he's going to be kind of an x factor there because this all fence the best way take away from the Josh Rosen and the Ryan Fitzpatrick is to work that run game and I think that's the thing the dolphins need to establish early this season. They have some pretty good running backs. They need to build that offensive line which again we will touch on a future episode but I do think Taylor talks. He's going to have a huge impact on their own game and I'm excited to see the way these running backs run behind that the mangled offensive line but that's enough about the running backs. Let's go on and talk about another position. The tight position we know the guy the man the myth myth legend the one that all of us WanNa see breakout become next rob Gronkowski and despite him blocking me on twitter. I'm still very upset about that like please please on block me but aside from Mike Seki blocking me on twitter. This was a guy that was very very disappointing in two thousand nineteen and much like with the Kenyan drake situation a lot of this can probably be blamed on Adam gays and I hate to be that way. I hate to throw him under the boss but I mean he's no longer dolphins a jet so he went from being a guy that I rooted for reaching everyday guy who I respected as a man to to an arch enemy and that's just the name of the game now that's enough about the Google lyod incompetent head coach at we once had let's focus on the tight ends. Might you sick again twenty two receptions two hundred and two yards nine point two yards per catch twenty seven yard charge was his long and for a guy that was drafted and the second round number forty two overall is twenty three years old so he still has plenty of time to transition to the N._F._l.. Game but for guy who many believe was going to come in there and just you know beat the defenses to a pop guy was just going to be a scene bust right out the gate a legit video game mad and Cheat Code. It was pretty underwhelming to say the least and we do know that there were rumors that the New Orleans Saints had interested in him in that in that draft the New England patriots had some interest in him in that draft draft <hes> but he ended up in Miami and when you compare him to some of those other guys that redrafting Dallas Goddard <hes> Mark Anderson was other rookie tight ends it went out. There made me impact. You could be a bit disappointed but let's not take two thousand eighteen put too much stock net. Let's look towards. There's two thousand nineteen. Let's look at what the New England offense has done with a rob Gronkowski a with an Aaron Hernandez who we don't need to talk about that but what he did they got a lot out of those guys and to be completely honest that is when when you saw New England turned into that Juggernaut I mean I think there was a statistic came out that since two thousand nine the New England patriots have not finished out of the top four offensively and that is huge. I mean when you got an offense can just go out there and pretty much have their way with the opposing defense. I mean that data truly unbelievable. Do I think that the Miami Dolphins are going to have a New England style offense or even a top ten offense absolutely not but I do think things are good. Things are set to come and I think a guy like Mike just sickie. He's not as talented as a rob Gronkowski. He's not is talented as Aaron Hernandez but he did like to combat pawn on fire. He does have all the athletic abilities. He just needs to bring it all together and again. I think this coaching staff can bring out the most in him. <hes> to other guys talk about derm. It's might the other rookie more may blocking guy a lot of people the guy that I do naturally to twenty one techniques sect from him this year we start near on the pup list but he is a guy who has familiarity with this offense of coaching staff has familiarity with some of these guys from their New England days <hes> so they brought in his veteran presence he's guy who again can take some of those blocking responsibilities away from like just icky and open things up for him. In the passing game same can be set for nickel leary guy that you know he went out there and had a pretty decent first game in this season. I think he had six catches. Eighty six charged touchdown a lot of people thought okay. Maybe this guy could become something didn't really do much the rest of the year but overall. I think Mike Gesicki is a guy to watch this group. I think he has the highest ceiling and I do think that again in New England style offense that's best suited for a guy his that is best suited for Mike just icky skill set. I do believe that two thousand nine hundred won't be better season in two thousand eighteen. Obviously that's not saying much disguise limit from like just seeking the Miami Dolphins offense and big things should come. We talked about halfbacks. We talked about too tight ends. Let's talk about wide receivers and this is a group that many people either very high on or very down on one of the biggest deciding factors obviously is going to come down with the health and we know that Albert Wilson suffered that hip injury we know that keen rant suffered Achilles injury. We know devante Parker has struggled to stay healthy throughout his career so I think it's going to come down to health but let's take a look at some these receivers and let's start right there with devante Parker and porkers a guy that has all the potential in the world of God that many believe could be a true number one wide receiving the N._F._l.. Obviously has not what happened since he was drafted. You look over his career is one hundred sixty three catches two thousand two hundred seventeen yards and only nine touchdowns two thousand eighteen three hundred nine yards eight single touchdown so it's up and down for devante Parker credit for a guy that has the skill set to play on the outside. He has the skill set to be that big body number one wide receiver that the Miami Dolphins have long earn four cents. You Know Chris Chambers left Brandon Marshall. He made that trade. You know you can go down the list of the dolphins wide receivers they head over the last several years yes and no one in my opinion has that devante Parker skill set and fortunately for devante Parker he has yet to really own his craft and become that true number one wide receiver that he can become. I'm not certain it's going to happen this year. I know he signed that new deal with the dolphins but if Devante Parker workers not step up sooner or later make no mistake about he will not be on the Miami Dolphins Roster passed twenty twenty he assigned through then dolphins picked up that option like I said and you know if if anyone who's going to bring out devante Parker is potential. You have to believe it's coaching staff. You have to hope opening a finally breakthrough in make devante Parker that elite wide receiver that many expected to be hopefully you know he's got rid of them. Spongebob squarepants he's not going to go on twitter and our instagram and post of dumb videos of him sitting there you know making up tick tock or whatever they are. Those little music thinks devante program in this guy that immaturity was kind of a deal those first few years kind of seem to turn things around I know he went on twitter when he signed that new deal and you know New Year new me. He wants a fresh start. That's what he's GonNa get another guy. That's going to get a fresh started. Here in Miami is Preston Williams when you look at Preston Williams. This is a guy that many people believe is a second or third round talent. We know he went undrafted. We know about is off the field problems. We had a transfer from Tennessee for some off the field issues then he got into altercation station with his former girlfriend. There's different things there. That would wave a red flag for some organizations but again this is a New England style coaching staff. They are starting to do things here Miami and just like Mark Walnut bringing in Preston Williams who has all the potential in the world seems to be going out there and doing the right things we on instagram. He was posting pictures of him working out with Chad Johnson Shadow Cinco if there's anything you want to see out of these young players these guys that you know need to prove that they belong in the N._F._l.. A Guy with that type of talent that is just happy for chance. It's the play in the N._F._l.. To plano Lincoln prove that he can be a number one wide receiver when you see him going in there and the off-season after soon as I believe as soon as as broke you know he was working out with Chad Johnson. That's huge what we can expect impressive Williams year one. I'm not quite sure you don't know what type of reps are what time of a plan. They'RE GONNA put in place there for him but if you're asking me long-term if I think Preston is going to be the dolphins number one wide receiver. Maybe the dolphins receiver that you know many of had hoped devante Parker could become. I absolutely do believe that press. Wayne says all the talent in the world and can absolutely that type of dynamic wide receiver he can play inside you can play outside huge huge body huge target for quarterbacks and you know Ryan Fitzpatrick Josh Rosen throughout training camp. They were praising Preston Williams again. This is just a guy that is as young hungry and has all the physical attributes to be true number one wide receiver. I think it's going to come sooner than later. I hope I'm right. <hes> do not put him on the practice squad Miami. There's no chance he is going to stay there. Because this guy that is very talented and guide that many believe leave including myself could set the world and fire maybe not in two thousand nineteen but for sure twenty twenty m beyond another wide receiver that many people failed to mention what talk about the Miami Dolphins and this is a guy who I good of a football player as he is on field. He is a better human off what he's done for racial equality in America. I mean it is just you gotta tip your out to Kenny stills infers good of a player as he is off the field is a better player on and I mean you got a guy here who the dolphins traded a fourth round pick for a guy who it didn't quite get it done their New Orleans and sense. He's come to Miami has been that deep threat that many had hoped he could become twenty seven years old. I think at twenty six earlier last season thirty seven receptions five hundred fifty three yard six touchdowns had six touchdowns at twenty seventeen nine nine touchdowns in two thousand sixteen this guy that went out there and he was one of Ryan hills favorite targets. You gotta think that translate to these new quarterbacks you got to think that he got Ryan Fitzpatrick. We're just likes to those yellow shots downfield. You Know Kenny stills. Remember some one of the beat writers tweet. now had seventy yard touchdown grabbing not as this is a guy who's going to have big play potential against the dolphins are gonna utilize early and often throughout that offense i think he might be arguably the most well rounded wide receiver on the roster but tom will tell from kenny stills bills and this is a guy who is still signed under contract and twenty twenty unrestricted free agent two thousand twenty one so we will see how long he is with the miami dolphins another guy that we gotta talk about another guy that has that big play potentially no continue to talk about these receivers these guys these quick shifty receivers that have the skill set to take it to the house on each and every touch and that is the perfect segue into these next to wide receivers the first one is keen grant and this is a small fast quick guy that can run four point three eight forty blazing speed we don't know how that achilles injury may affect that but he is out there running routes he's out there working with the team and he has the potential you know we sit here we wonder who might play opposite of devante parker who might play on that boundary insure kenny stills is in line for that he could take some reps out there but you keep it has proven and unless you're living on iraqi remember that game on monday night football where he went up there and randy moss malcolm butler made him look absolutely foolish and that is what you came grant can do this is a small body guy kind that is just five foot six hundred seventy pounds soaking wet so not necessarily the ideal size for a wide receiver on the outside but again juki ran has proven they can go up there and make those catches over some of those bigger defensive backs you can go out there and be as physical as the rest of them so i do think thank takim grant you know this new england stall shadow shays bringing over implementing the e._m._p. style offense i do think that you came grant should have a bigger role in twenty nineteen and again if he is healthy could be one of the most explosive receivers in the league and as crazy as it sounds to kim grant might not even be the best wide receiver on the roster that could be our wilson a lot of people were you know kind of in the uncertainty about what our wilson brought to the table they weren't quite sure what type of player he was because he didn't really get those targets they're in kansas city but what we saw limited action that he had was just an explosive playmaker that could do everything you twenty six receptions three hundred ninety one yards average fifteen yards per reception get along of seventy five and four touchdowns he threw a touchdown pass education grant he absolutely dismantled the chicago bears number one ranked defense on his way for a touchdown albert wilson could do it all and before he got hurt he was leading the n._f._l. and yours per attempt yards per route i mean this is a guy that if things can lineup if he can stay healthy this season and if they can implement him into this offense he's going to be a superstar he's by all accounts ready for week one you know you continue to see that he's tweeted out that he's ready he will not start the season on the publis which is great great news for a guy that again should have a huge role in twenty nine thousand nine should a huge part of the miami dolphins future here miami and i'm excited for our wilson more than anyone on this team i do believe that he is the most talented wide receiver that we've had here miami for quite some time as much as i like jarvis landry that is just a cold hard truth and just half the season i mean he put up more touchdown drivers did he is an absolute superstar with that skill set coupled with devante parker with a precedent williams with the kennedy stills which akeem grant i do believe this receiving core is a lot better than many try to give him credit we do know the dolphins sign ricardo lewis golf season he unfortunately suffered a season any injury they recently claimed saieed black null from the oakland raiders you got trent irwin reese horn and of course a guy that i was pretty high on a couple years ago isaiah forty guy who i still believe could make a name for himself here in the national football but time will tell which one of these guys kind of emerge out of training camp and we will find out sooner than later as miami dolphins training camp kicks off tomorrow afternoon again this was the first edition of my finsider daily podcast you can follow me on twitter at at house h. o. u. t. z. <hes> just a quick recap halfback kenyan drake kaelin balaj i believe more won't and could have an impact i believe miles gaskin could make an impact at tight end it's obviously mike just sticky you got dwayne allen who can catch the football can block thermos smyth nickel lear those guys could have a role and then at wide receiver you've got devante parker you hope he can emerge as a number one wide receiver preston williams fits at similar bill and i do believe sooner or later he will be the guy there miami albert wilson might be the most explosive playmaker maker only entire roster and of course kenny stills grant round out that unit aside from the depth and those guys balance in training camp but again thank you for joining me here on my very first episode of finsider daily there will be plenty more of this as we head into training camp as as we approach preseason and as we go through the regular season four my falling colleagues aired sutton and matthew cannot i'm josh out we'll talk to you next radio dot com at the s._p. komo hammy thank the ball for poltical no pain in the on the ground we're always in coastal when you think you're it's weird it in miami has the greatest wealthy from ever on the ground when you uh-huh the hey it's medically host of the eater upsell before you jump to your next podcast i want to tell you about a new that's happening layer the 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The Big Suey: WR Tiers!

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

33:28 min | 9 months ago

The Big Suey: WR Tiers!

"Stugatz here don't know about you but my morning commute is filled with thinking about who won. Who lost and who is going to light up the next game the last thing i want to be thinking about or my core lights. That's why one by advance. Not only to their experts. Set me up to sylvania silver star ultra headlights with the furthest down row visibility. I save fifteen bucks by mail for vision. During these dark winter mornings adventure auto at advance auto parts and participating carquest locations see stores for details Lebatardshow for being honest found just a giant piece of kit bald eagles. a podcast exclusive. That none of our bosses asked for sports more work less pay. I haven't stopped talking in a month just when you thought this show couldn't be more diluted bam last time i listened to the show. I haven't listened for years now. Here's the marching band. No way what am i missing the end of the story back. Phase chris phallic philippa. You made him a peanut samba. Habitual liar for all the big swede. I'm chris cody be spn. He's amid pack. I receiver you. Wanna davante adams to go along. You're looking for a julio jones. Go along with devante. Julio in his prime yeah sure odell and his prime you know just a game-breaker. I'll take calvin ridley. I'm gonna piss all you off when i take three cowboys over. Devante parker for sure. I feel like you just did that. I feel like you already did that. So let's do this. We'll start with the nfc east. This is interesting because what's happened. Here is whatever devante parker is ranking would be as a number one receiver. I think it's becoming obvious that more teams than not have do not have a number one receiver as good as devante parker right so far through half of this experiment. The problem is several teams. Have several guys who are better than devante parker. So you've got a multiple number one receivers on the cowboys on the steelers. Kind of on the chiefs. I am not on the raiders. That was a big mistake. Colossal mistake by us going with rugs and then taking All nelly over devante parker. Was it a colossal mistake augie. Lar- what is he saying raiders. I'm telling been this year. Give me the stats this year guitar. Whatever lower. why are we meeting spanich. Because i think it's with an. Or at the end he made madonna hispanic. I think it's aggie lore is it. Yeah there's no at the end so nelson galore agley or agley art. Does it matters having so much trouble. And this is a tough one for him when you throw in l. in a word and i believe this is difficult. I know this is the source of the dyslexia. Though what's to god's consistently does with the l. is that he moves it up in the word. Go ahead rory. Mcilroy see what i'm saying. He puts the thing. I think the only example of your dicks lexi. That's not right. I mean. I can't do it. You just move it up a couple of letters you take the l and you're moving up a couple of letters but what is your done. What does aggie lord done this season. He's twenty four catches four hundred and forty three yards six touchdowns and he's not a number one so it's a nice average though and that's not bad but that's not enough catches that's not twenty. Four catches is devante has got forty four. four touchdowns. Forty-four catch how many yards. What's the yard per average. Because i don't think this year in terms of production there's been a lot of difference between those two guys twenty more catches resulting in two fewer touchdown. Five twenty three now last year. He's played some of those games with to Who's been a gay manager through the first three or four games last year with a full season with. Its patrick devante. Parker and i think we conveniently forget this. No he had a good season. Seventy do catches twelve hundred yards. Sixteen point seven yards per catch nine touch and has never had that. He's no. I just think of him. As a touchdown maker in a space age offense that is a kansas city. Chiefs light But i don't feel as bad about taking aggie lore as my number one This season as i would about taking rugs. Which is what mike ryan did on the basis think catches you. Just saw the raiders chiefs. Go up and down the field and rugs had one more catch for five more yards than i did in that. I've learned my lesson with davante adams. I'm not giving up on henry ruggs. I'll feeling i'll take his ceiling and by the way he's pacing right now. Dow demonte parker's rookie season. So let's ex. Let's do this here with the nfc east then Philadelphia does not have a number one better than devante parker. The new york giants even with those Those two guys slayton jabber even with those two guys comparable but would go. What's interesting about the parker is if we did this around the nfl. I don't think you'll find a number two receiver as bad as you kim grant. Well that's another thing that's in play here so the cowboys. Mike says he thinks three guys. You take amari cooper. You'd take lamb. I think if you put gallup on the miami dolphins and you make them as number one with jackie grant opposite against him. I mean gallup is going to put up major numbers Washington washington has yes. Chris preston williams is the number two. I thank you. Kim grants the punt returner like three slack. I personally by the way. Let's play the same game with pressing williams We can play the same game with press better than you think bell. He's a little better than you. Think you use better than i think which is better than kim grant. But he's also not better than most of them. You could skip the football team by the way. Okay yeah maclaurin is. He's pretty good like that. He's been he's really is open. You're doing it this year for getting out. They look like sixteen games with a quarterback who is here. I'm doing it last year to the he came in and boss elite from the gecko really really good. He's he's in. Ohio state pedigree seems almost impossible. Listen i. I'm sorry surviving that quarterback coming today. I'm i can't. I wasn't that upset when we're in too deep guys. We're into off career deep in this radio hall doing lists where doing number one. Receivers were doing quarterback controversy. We can't dig our way out from the we have spent so many years. Twenty years to not end up in this whole stugatz has wanted us in this whole forever. And i love that. He has totally ignorance about what he's talking about as he wants us in this whole while playing fantasy getting here not knowing how good mclaren is you just called nelson big. Nellie a number one i did. I went into division. Miscarry terry and rugs right. I'll tell you that i said that. Nelson aggie laura. You couldn't pronounce his name. I said that he was a legitimate number. One this season. I did that is correct. But stop deflecting throwing kitty. Litter are in my face. Because you didn't know the mclaren was any good and you need to admit it alright. He's good green bay. Yes that is another place where i get to be wrong The chicago bears. Do not have anyone to the minnesota. Vikings have a couple of guys. You look jefferson. Over everyone. Allen robinson robinson. Park my bed. Now you get to make fun of me now. I just assumed the chicago offense can't have a number one as bad as it is. How is kirk cousins. So bad i mean he's got very good receivers but you're right. I stand i stand corrected on robinson again. We're only halfway done with the nfc cody. How do you feel how. All of this is gone. Billy christie regret having ventured into this whole. You all voted for this. yes terrible. we're we gotta keep going. You gotta go digging fantastic. It's the best thing. I've heard in radio but i do have one question. Are we making these decisions. Best on based on. I want this guy over this guy for this game for this season or don't go under and it's just a sports radio nobody cares about it. That much and most of us aren't as informed as we should be on this care. We're just as billy has said I don't feel like billy much wants to have this discussion but billy is always rooting for energy around. I'd like to go back to the eagles for a second. i'm not certain. I wouldn't take full them over. Devante parker i it's hard to judge with carson once. There really is the ceiling of radar to ray gore. He's good okay. Just a second because you guys are throwing way too much at a i again. M assuming these teams philadelphia and chicago were not allowed to have a number one because then they wouldn't stink so much at offense like these are offenses. I simply do not want and We talked before. About cleveland. And mike ryan is saying jarvis. Landry is the number one in cleveland. And i don't know whether you'd rather have him than devante parker. But you did have him before to monte parker and we were having these conversations about jarvis landry being an excellent number two receiver and not a number one should be noted that jarvis landry made the pro bowl literally every year. Since he's left miami dolphin fan. Still wanna make fun of him. Okay you say that. But eddie dalton has made a three pro bowls bowl. Last year was because of injury charges. Good he's a good player. Makes the proble. There's six thousand members of the proton measuring made a pro bowl his rookie season. But this year is different. Because they're not actually playing the game so you can't say no. Do we need to keep going here. How many. how many volumes are we. In fact i want you to go to the xfl man to though last year ono. I'm sorry they didn't have jefferson. Digs all right The detroit lions It's not gonna be marvin jones golladay all day twice on sunday okay. Then he's heard sunday parlor day. He is hurt a lot in new orleans. The same got michael. Thomas you take cam tampa bay you take. How many there guys in tampa three three holding tonio. Yes you do ask you. Take all three tampa. Bay's got three damn guys. Jesus christ carolina ones carolina does not have a number one receiver good receivers to samuels. Pretty good samuel robby anderson. I would take interesting has been great. This year robby anderson has been one of the best wrestling off off a little bit right now. But i i would take him. Dj more isn't dj. More their number. One receptions. Now i would take. I think devante parker could be the best receiver on that they have like. They have a lot of guys that are equal. I think i think he'd take dj more. I mean over devante. Let's let's just set that aside to find a definitive answer. Robby anderson jets years against him has looked like a totally different receiver and he also he also exploded assert start. The season and his production has leveled off. I know i have him on my fantasy team. That is the way that most of these things do end up getting. No falcons got julio jones and ridley how many how many rams do you take. I take cooper kupp rob rob. You've got a couple of seahawks you take you take lock and everyone else. I mean i'll take rugs. Mecca you got hopkins in arizona. You take at this point. Devante parker over larry fitzgerald is the number two there anymore. Eric and the san francisco forty niners. That's more kittle than anybody. Isn't it like samuel on a lot of speed. I'll take samuel. So what are we. Come to a conclusion here. We need to get an answer on. Dj more do we need to. And i'm like a dog with the ball. All right we'll call somebody then call schefter and we'll just call him to ask Call somebody to get an answer. More somebody any. Let's find somebody here that we can get an answer from with the most random questions who would you rather have more. Dj or devante. parker cody. Who do you feel like. We should be calling. Mike is decided that this is the question that we're going to get an answer to. I think maybe we drag it through the whole national show and ask every guest that we have and just call random experts and stop everything. We're doing to answer the question of whether or not you'd rather have more parker as your number one receiver. I think we should just start putting out calls. Who are the experts that we want to talk to on this subject. I would call a friend of the. Greg cody show. Meaning times really. I was thinking more like kim bo camper something. It's it's xm menas time. You texted her that early. You're waiting for a text response or you're waiting. She gets back to me sometimes at six am local. You wanna ask dominique foxworth. Who in our who amongst our people. We want calling in to answer the eternal question i mike. How do you feel about making this a thread throughout the national show where we ask everyone. We're talking to moore park with no explanation by the way. Don't even say they're named like who you got more or parker and then trying let them figure out what the hell we're taking. Those are pretty common last names. I think i'd have to include the first name. It's not usually with number one receivers though like if. I say that you've got a number one receiver and i'm saying who you got cooper jefferson. You know what i'm talking about. Yes well that's how terrible the question says it is really terrible. And i'm deeply happy that we have spent this much time on it. just Really sand papering the faces of our audience nonstop this morning. Because i can't imagine that anybody cares what we're talking about here and we've been obsessed with it for about Eighty four minutes as the k b o. I guess ended today. Have you seen the trophy. It's a giant sword waiting for you to get in here and allow us with your sword to get to some different subject. Knows you kept voting for continuing this stupid segment. And i kept waiting for you to rescue us billy with one of the rare time where i don't wanna aboard. Stay right here. what do you wanna do you. Xfl go ahead. Billy what were you saying. Well no. I'm just saying the cabo seems of ended today the dino look like they won the championship and the trophies. A giant sword stories developing. I'll get you more as it comes. I love that a sort. Is it the best trophy. Do you like it as the what. What do you love about it as a trophy. Tell me more well. it's a sword. Dan most trophies aren't swords trophies. You know our look a golden basketball or giant silver football or like this thing that's made up of all the flags of all the mlb teams and kind of like a cylindrical pattern with ascending flags. But not the k b o. There's again is a giant sword. Dyno's won to celebrate state bar surprisingly great rates. We gave this game day. Jam surprising tuesday's state. Good neighbour steeple at one. Step down once white. Once last single bank brennan delete. Qb's wrestle kenneth on t. d.'s. Lacrosse novus step behind. Need to watch the cloud. Because you know what i'm saying. Oh you know why at thirty finger. Push us bruce. Lee showing murray on the lebeau. Oj no-one knows goes deeper the espn download. Now dan i'm sad to report that robby anderson's average four and a half yards for the last month And he's tailed off okay but has an also devante parker. Let me get on that. I mean buying divide playing with two. Who's more of a game manager. Them fitzpatrick was right. So it's different quarterback It is and And more was playing with walker this week. Ed pj walk. What's good is he is again. Cj more at his best game of the year with pj. Well i listen back. Yesterday's show it is astounding. How much you talked about the carolina. Panthers what happened there. is it just a giant bent. Was that your big bed of the day. Not knowing that you didn't know that bridgewater was out and you thought stafford. That's not the worst gambling mistake. Somebody in our circle has made this now. Now mina kimes listen to this her pick of the weekend on a second hold on a set this up before we bring on munichites trying to expert hold up because was it worse. I wants to virginia tech this season. Not knowing that seventeen players warren playing because cove it. I think this mistake is worse. Okay this is like rule number one. I don't do that. I still remember though. I remember stugatz. I think taking rice against baylor without knowing that rice it suspended like thirty four players. I did. I bet over in a game with forty five mph winds and also that happened so that doesn't happen too good game to the worst of it. It does not happen. The weather not escape the attention of the good gambler. It took three games. I think i've learned my lesson over in cleveland. Ohio but listen to this dude. Got so i believe headed into this week. That meena comes with something like eighteen seven and one or some number around there. She had been she had had only two losing weeks This season and the rest of them were just winning weeks again and again You know picking three games every week and this week she ended up going one and two and the way that she went one into is totally ridiculous and she doesn't know anything about gambling. She has a lot of information on the teams but she's guessing like everyone else's guessing. She's just with more information than most people so her three games were the dolphins connell. There the jets improbably came back and eisele back door. Cover there so i was making so much fun of her about the idea of like jets. Really you're going to take the jets on anything. You're going to trust the jets anywhere to give you. Anything is a big juicy line. They cover so we head into sunday night. The chiefs versus the raiders. This what this is a game that makes it a winning weekend or losing weekend. We got the chiefs now. I need to offer some clarity on this. Because there's another element to this. That mike doesn't know about which is so. She's giving you three big bets of the week Entertainment porpoises only. But i go to sleep. Without knowing the final result of that game i fell asleep at the end of the point of gambling when she sends when she stugatz is in the expert. Position of gots often comes in here in the morning. He's like oh. I won that one like at raised. That happens all the time. He just forgets about it in texas. She just texas team names. So it's dolphins jets chiefs all right. Take the sides with the spread so watching this entire game. It seems as though the the cover is unlikely. Wire-to-wire you're never really in covering hate though the seven and a half hate those games where you're just. It's clear pretty early like i'm going to need some sort of flu care. Yeah this is going down to the wire. I need you guys to understand. You feel alive. Those games though. Don't know i would say that. The carolina result. You've got this weekend is the one that you want to make you feel alive just shit game. You had everything wrong. But you're it's never in doubt and the and you're still getting mad at your quarterback for throwing two interceptions in the end zone. Because i should have won thirty four. Now i may be wrong but i don't think at any point in the game. The kansas city chiefs had an opportunity to go up to scores. Which is what you needed to win this bet. So pretty much wire-to-wire you've got no shot at covering this incomes. A text from mean chi- text. I woke to mike. It's the first text. I'm getting of the morning incomes. A text from unicom's chiefs baby. They cover we win. What and then she quick. I'm just sorta son by it. I'm like did you get in game. What is what is going on here. Did i get the wrong law. But keep him on the score at this point. So all i've seen is chiefs baby. I don't know how the game has ended. I just think that clearly the chiefs have covered seven. Yeah was there's another text for me the realization. Oh i was looking at the wrong line. I thought they were minus three and a half roy experts. The chiefs should only be favored by three anna them to i was even a little hesitant. I'm like man to score. Is okay on the road do this. I took the raiders. I totally would've taken the chiefs at three hundred laugher. You cover that one easily. Wait a minute. Stu gotz is always saying around here that he's never going to bet against the chiefs because of how scared you are and how unpleasant it is a serial liar. They are the team. That's that's true. Thank you demanded. St- i am Documented documented serial. Liar at documented at. St you may know dump president. I believe that you chose the raiders. I also believe you're the same human being who says never choose against the chiefs. I did say it's too scary. Abed just always bet the chiefs because that way. You're not scared. You're not the same kind of scared i did that. i did say that. And then and then. I want against the raiders. That only because the raiders had beaten them in arrowhead so it stands to reason that game would at least be very close in in las vegas and it was. I mean does it did for me. And it stand to reason and that league because i'd still be terrified of the chiefs. If i was betting against the chiefs. I just made it sound so easy. You're really did well. It stands to reason dan that here. I had it this way. And clearly. I knew that the chiefs and the raiders are almost identical. The two times they've played. I was over the bowl season last year. You weren't over the whole bowl season but you started like what did you started eating. That's so glorious stands the raise it. You're actually having a good year this year. You not and We never talk about it. Because what's the fun in that. Let's not talk about it. Because i don't want to ruin. What is an historic year is better than a year had goldberg's ever had about that's be no Is that Wow you just keep arriving with older and older references. The modern hecker. Now the you went hank goldberg and then you threw in a random beano. I would other billy. Can you give me a favor please. Can you look up at the age of beano cook. And the only reason. I'm asking you to look up the age of beano cook Is because i don't want to risk fifty dollar fine. I'm going to risk it and say you know is no longer with us. I go to risk okay. What age would be no be if he were with us. That's not me calling him. I think vino cookman dead for like about twelve years. I believe so. Yeah he he left us at two thousand and twelve okay so he left us at what age. The obituary say what age was because i just wanna make sure everyone eighty-one keep adding after third. Because i i. I want code understand as our resident old person. That's do god's is just referencing a man who would be ninety one years old today after said lachmann what was the other. You were said lachmann. I used the three stooges all right. Mike help me with this because this is a source of tension around here lately. Stugatz wants to sink into becoming the old shitty. Show the show the talks about old old thing. I know you got. I know you guys want to sink into it. Don't but he's doing that already. Don't i mean we intros in it with or without us like. He says he wants to do it. This way. no cigarettes lovable every everyman. Yes but not into us getting all just what. It's like certain things happen to you. As you get older. And i think us you know kind of sinking into it and sharing it with the audience is funny youth vibrant energy. People want to be around young thing. We've always been the hip young thing we don't want ever want to be a show that just everyone in the studios wearing hats to hide their hairlines. The only one that agree with me to gave me a thumbs up. Greg cody. That's right greg. Cody wants to look get him. Look at cutting what are you pointing at us and worrying with coughing laughter four. You've been dying on air for eighteen months. you can't laugh without coughing. What are you routing four rooting for it. All man we need the rejoin where. I'm referencing ozzie. and harriet. i mean you can't have too many hol- references you really can't you just can't i. Love beano cook. My eyes lit up goldberg's good friend of mine. i mean. these are wonderful people. Chris are you too young to know who beano cook even is had to google it. This is the place those. That's the line that you can't fall on the wrong side of that line. Because a chris t tony. Do you know who know cook is did you. Because you grew up with all this shit television you watch. Pti you put that among your cartoons. I was a part of your growing up. Somehow yes january and yeah. I know who beano cook was because i was paying attention to sports at a younger age. Okay so beano cut. That's right because Yeah yes he was. Because his father is a a sports radio dork. And so my guess is that you've got some of that in your crib. You got some of that. Oh i'm so sorry that you've got some of that the hank goldberg show with stugatz. Can we talk about this for a second. This is what i wanna talk about. Okay so just go ahead and do it then. I guess you could play if if you've got the sound back there you've got anybody editing local hour in and out. What do you want football expert. That decides who's better more or parker I want him stories from stugotz about working as a producer for hank goldberg. Because he the reason he's making that reference is because he would have to call beano cook. I i want to talk a little bit about and we'll get to it in a second so i want to go to billy. I about the early days of sports radio in south florida because we were coming to challenge the incumbents and i wanna get nostalgic for a second before we do that just to kind of clean things up for those who don't know carole hoff beano cook was an american television personality who worked for espn. He was a college football historian and commentator. He wants said and it was on hank. Show that ron paul paulus would win. Three or four heisman trophies. Sue i thought is what he says. Maybe carol his name was carol. Yeah i understand why he goes by being. Put it on the poll. It's kind of like jon. Wiener changing his name to sam weiner. No it's not like that. It's like his name. Being wanna weiner i'll put it on the poll digital knows name What beano coach name was carol We haven't made a beano awhile right like those are those are. That's not something that mary sue. Carol carol awhile well. But i'm just thinking about the idea of a baby beano Be no baby. Is something that i'm thinking about you. The doors it is it sounds it. Looks like a ninety one year old man. It's a tiny little baby but it looks ninety one because you don't know any other be knows beano is just isn't gas medication. I don't know it sounds like it is. It's just not right. Is his the most famous of the gas medications. Oh i think the only one. And i'm trying to think. Is there a second beano who's ever lived. I don't know there was a gas sex. That's also the most. I think famous. Okay put down the pole guillermo a more famous gas medicine gas x. or beano. I've been doing the metamucil this week. Loaded up for thanksgiving. That's young. i've been doing. The i've been doing the very young every every morning every morning. I give my coffee. And i make myself my My pandemic which is thanksgiving during pandemic. So you have to have the metamucil and the emergency. Yes pre strike. Okay you the detective in the movie. Who's throwing alka-seltzer in the pep missile into the pepito biz. Mwale widsom jack. That's who you are now in the morning is in pepito. I like the gold. Medalist of of gas relief. Isn't it i think of it more. Yes stomach stuff willing to me that you can light it on fire and it turns a metal. Okay put that on the poll as well guillermo. Did you know that you could like pepco bismuth on fire. And it turns into metal. And furthermore do you find that settling exactly feel comfortable putting in my body knowing that information. I can't believe that you have made a metamucil reference before cody before anybody like. I don't know what you could go to sound older on sort of things that you're taking than i told you what happened. My wife sits around before we dinner at five thirty. We're watching the game show network and i see a commercial for metamucil. Wow that's speaks to my every need right now because it's lobbying doesn't thirty on holy shit. So here's where we are with Sort of reminiscent. I'm not certain be knows even on the medal. Stand for gas gas medication. I think it's gotta be gas x. Pepco and tom's but i don't think i think of those. I'm not talking about indigestion. Because i think maybe i'm making a distinction. You're not making when i think of tom. Pepco i'm thinking indigestion. Acid reflux a bunch of different things be no. I'm just talking about gas. I'm talking about your hips. you're simply party like aroldis. Chapman straight gas is what i'm talking about hundred and five miles an hour. Straight gas will not be cured by a pink stuff that if you light it on fire and drink with jack and alka seltzer will become metal. I can't separate the two for me. All my guess is part of my chronic constipation again kind of my sloppy and tyson. I can't believe you've referenced. Metamucil a great old funny medicine. Have you ever mix metamucil into never taken metamucil. I've never seen metamorphose. Actually i'm really excited about this New cocktail that concocted with the With emergency in there because it helps with the consistency because the metamucil becomes pretty gelatinous at the base and you just the final chug is just. You're essentially drink drinking this kind of orange tasting slug and you can feel travel down your safa gifts and then two days later. voila poop. Billy do you have any stomach issues Do you have because it would. It would take you question. I no i'm cool.

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2019 Fantasy Focus Awards Show

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2019 Fantasy Focus Awards Show

"Forget to set your fantasy lineup. That's not a great move but you know what is teaming up with. Td Ameritrade to get everything you need to take your analysis skills from the fantasy gridiron to the training eating floor visit td Ameritrade dot com slash fantasy to get started member SIPC. We're now we we are getting fancy on them. It is the fantasy focus football award show to put a capper on the twenty nine teen. NFL season at least the fantasy football season in field matthews. To hanging out with you. It's Monday night. We rarely rarely do a show works out a Thursday evening. You get our Glam Dammed Up Matthew Aura Jersey his definition of clammed up and also still putting his beyond some things. Don't change some things never change something. Nothing new in different. We're doing ten awards. Hand them out. Many of them are pretty self explanatory. Heck you can probably guess the winners but there will be some suspense. We promise you that. NFL NFL regular season is over Daniel doom and open the skipped up now. Or do you want to give Matthew The rain I so we can talk about a new development in his life. I think we we. We opened up. Give Matthew the the rains I. Maybe we'll do yours out of the mineral okay so I don't know if people are aware of this but when I first came to ESPN okay. Okay back in two thousand seven the management here at ESPN said to me very kindly perhaps stupidly but they said they they said Hey Matthew we would we. We want to put more of an emphasis on our fantasy department on on our on our fantasy content are games and everything that we're doing in fantasy think this is an exploding area and we would love your input. We would love significant input from you. In terms of who else we hire where we go everything like that so debatable. Decision the one hundred percent hundred percent. I'm skin but if history looks upon it fondly if history looks upon that time in my life finally it will be because of a couple of of decisions I made and one of them was that I said we should hire Stephania Bell. Bell is a is a young woman that I have met. She is is She's a fantastic fantasy player. She does all these injuries thing. She's doing these for a couple of different types of the time she was doing them for Roy. Y Our friends over at Rota wire and I thought is she is terrific. She's well spoken. I think she will be great on television. She'll be great on radio. She's a great writer. She knows a lot. I think she will make us better. And I was able to convince the powers that be eh that that happened right and so I think as a result of ask the company has asked me to present this with you A plaque recognizing your ten magical years at the Walt Disney Company. We are assume that go years that to find. Yeah that's what you've got the platform surviving ten years. You've been a little longer. There was a warm up period. They'll give you a pin for ten years. It gave you a plaque black emphasized. Oh you look it up in the corner to win the day to day every word. Mind me that you know I have been. Blessed of a decade was Lee. We are either. Oh yes well. We're we're sharing with the wealth. Now yes sorry. Here's my beautiful name grudge. There's no question question that's defined your stellar work over the last decade on all all of ESPN's many platform is reflected reflected. Certainly well on me and everyone else that that took a chance on you. So that's for sure I was going to say I'd like to thank the academy to thank everyone who was here. I couldn't do it without all of you. Thank you thank the to be honest. You could've done it without Daniel. Let's be fair. Let's be fair. No me now. She's she's Uh Tier So anyway congratulations to find A. Here's here's another ten years to another ten indeed on invest ninety seconds on the clock. You WanNa talk about Bruce Allen can you do it yeah well just as as we celebrate a great ten years right here was divine on your bell. We close the chapter on an awful ten years as the Washington redskins. Ordination gave me the best birthday present. I could have is my birthday yesterday as people who may I thank you guys thank you very much. They gave me an amazing present. which is Hashtag? Fire Bruce. Allin it worked Bruce Allen no longer a part of the Washington redskins organization they announced earlier today and as I said on social media this is not about celebrating. Somebody getting fired. You never want somebody to get fired but the NFL as much as any industry in the world world is a results oriented industry and the results. Haven't been there Bruce Allen who has been in charge of all football operations for the redskins for over a decade eight and over that decade. They've one of the worst one win loss records in the NFL. They have become honestly a laughing stock of not only the NFL but a professional. Oh sports they are twenty nine. And Win percentage during Bruce Allen's era and so Mr Snider and the Redskins Organization did commonly what. I can't believe what should have been done a long time ago. But they listened to the fans they they looked internally. This and you know what we need to make a change so I am very excited. I announced on. I wrote a column earlier this year. A love hate mccollum earlier this year on ESPN DOT COM. Where I said I'm out I'm done? I'm sick of being a redskins fan until they get rid of Bruce Allen I'm done I can't root for this organization anymore Bruce Allen has gone and so I am back. I'm officially back as a Redskins Fan. If you're not watching this live I am wearing my Terry maclaurin Jersey number. Seventeen warm ormc Lawrence Gordon maclaurin. Listen who is my pick for fantasy rookie of the year. Unbelievable what he accomplished this year. And so just representing. I'm back in. I I'm cautiously optimistic. That That the REDSKINS will Will hire somebody terrific that can lead the franchise in the right direction. Listen nowhere to go but up. But I'm back in Hell Redskins hail victory very excited Hashtag. Fire Bruce Allin actually worked. Did you know this last thing. I'll say here feeling when we we want our former colleague Darren Hayes. WHO's now down in Washington? DC sports director down there and so he. He posted this on twitter the Hash tag fire. Hire Bruce Allin was used over fifty five thousand times in the past calendar year. Thirty one percent of those uses came in the last last month. So I'm not saying it's the only reason but I will say that I do think I do think it became a movement that a lot of people got behind and so anyway we never get on your side. You know what. Here's how you get knocked on my bad side. Don't become in charge of franchise for a decade and lead us to the dumpster. 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Musical preferences are nominees. This year. Marcus Robinson of the chiefs. Who in week? Two thirty five point. Two fantasy points chase Edmunds of the Arizona cardinals who had thirty five fantasy points and the cardinals told us to start him. Fantasy football it just happened like an hour after the game. Exactly exactly. Thank you very much. John Rawson Week one did with John. Ross sometimes does which is out of nowhere games thirty four point eight fantasy points with two touchdowns included in finally Danny dimed in is inaugural start as the giants quarterback at thirty four point. Two Fantasy Points Matthew. You want against the grain here because you pick John. Ross you were the person. The only person to vote in such category that way. Quick reason why quick reason why is first off just proximate limitation nation demarcus Robinson had a monster game and we against Oakland but everyone did like mahomes had a monster game like Nicole. Hardman had a big game there so you could argue him as well chase. EDMUNDS had had some success recently. It was just because of David Johnson and just you know listen Mudhole anti twitter rant. I just couldn't vote for chase edmunds. You think about Daniel Jones who came in like you. You couldn't have possibly known that at all. Obviously because he came in as a backup like he he didn't start the game against Tampa Bay. I know who started his first start. I thought that was this saquon and got hurt in the game was Jones. I start let them back from the comeback but anyways gnomes talking about Daniel Joe Anyway his game but they didn't and by the way also everyone was good against Tampa Bay but for me. It was John Ross. Who when you think about coming out of nowhere? Here's a guy that have been sort of left for dead. A former first round pick it dealt with injuries just had really done much. He's on Cincinnati. We just don't know how good this is going to be under. Zack Taylor know. Aj Green and then all of a sudden John Ross comes out seven for one. Eight two touchdowns looks electric on the road. Pat Seattle where we thought at the time would be a tough place to play so that was my. That's why I voted for John. Ross but I was the only one without further ado I picked up to market. I went to Marcus Robinson. Just because I know tyreek hill was hurt but everybody was Miekel hardman and more Sammy Watkins. China's Kelsey reduced the. Oh six right. That's the name of the week for the one week wonder goes twos to find. Your Bell tells more Tastes Edmonds vote. Yes we heard that. Imagine kind of gave it a wiping. His this case was one that the Arizona Cardinals told us to start as you said failed a little bit too late. But we're paying attention thirty five fantasy points in that week seven game and let me tell you about his career prior to that he had just two games with fifteen or more fantasy points. He only had three carries of of his total eighty four carries where he gained twenty or more yards. And in that game all three touchdown runs were at least twenty yards. Okay so in one one game. He did what he did. Only three times in eighty four carries before in the first six games this season no games with more than eight carries. He basically was a non factor. Because hey there was this Guy David Johnson that we were all looking at come on David Johnson throughout the show that much I can promise you. Let's move things along to our next next or this is a big one here. The game of the year and again self explanatory here in our opinion the best single game performance of twenty nineteen the nominees and these sir an order of how many points these players scored will fuller in week. Five fifty three point seven fantasy points the most by any player in game this season Aaron Jones in week five as well L.. Forty nine point. Two fantasy points Christian McCaffrey. Also in week five forty seven point seven fantasy points and Sammy Watkins all the way back in week one forty six point eight fantasy points matthew you and I actually did not pick the winner but you and I were the only people to vote for Aaron Jones. My reason is this of these games like that was the guy that you were actually starting fuller. There were still some hesitation starting because of how as we know how brutally and then say why. We'll say we'll fuller was on loveless that week though pretty good week. He was on the loveless because it was just like he'd been getting all these targets and he hadn't been happening just he'd been it was it's like he was like regression to the mean. And you know he was he kept being high and like Mike Claes Oh td and and you know and so I will fully believe it or not was actually on the loveless you can go back and look this up up on week five so he was a recommended. Start that week. I however still voted for Aaron Jones and I did it for two reasons first off free. Aaron Jones write Hashtag freer and Jones. They gotta vote for Aaron Johns. I also thought it was one thing to do have a big game against Atlanta. which is what Willfuller did as a wide receiver? It's another thing to do on the road. At Dallas. Four Times four touchdown he's was the first player since Ladainian Tomlinson in two thousand six hundred four rushing touchdowns and seven catches in the same game. They were the cowboys. Were the third best red zone defense through the first four weeks the season this happened in week five and so on the road in an important. NFC Game I thought and just also by the way it more significant for running back to do it than a when a wide receiver. So that being said so. That's why I voted Jones Jerome Row. Please the Oh six Oh and we for the game of the year goes to Willfuller Willfuller and let me tell you. I was beneficiaries field. I do believe you remember that Gail will field was well aware of the game. Look I I picked him. I had a little personal attachment because we'll fuller was on my team in the war room league and I also am well aware that that far far exceeded what he did the remainder of the year. He averaged just eight eight points per game and his other ten games season so it shows you the difference. Part of the reason he was only starting eleven percent of leagues is because people weren't sure whether they could trust his health and they hadn't and seen him as Matthew pointed out doing it On the field so look previous career high fantasy point total because he was the guy who could be explosive. He's had big games but it was twenty nine point five fantasy points. He scored fifty three point. Seven fancy points in this game. I mean to me single game performance. You you said because Aaron Jones was used that factored in as him being consistent label to produce to me what part of the reason will fuller was such a top one game performance was because it was so out of the range of anything else. You've ever done. Volume is throwing a perfect game. So far Daniel I gotta say the reason why I so I voted for Willfuller as well and it simply because it started with a five. It's the the idea of any any fantasy players scoring a a number that starts with five and fantasy is just -nificant outrageous so not to any of these forty point performances weren't fantastic antastic but and also can we just say like how phenomenal week. Five was fast food. I I remember there were four forty five players at least forty fantasy points. First Time I am an ever happened next one. Here is Comeback Player of the year the most productive player this season that was other injured. Disappointing in twenty. Eighteen nominees are Dalvin. Cook for the Vikings devante Parker Parker for the Miami Dolphins Ryan Tannehill Tennessee Titans and our Guy Leonard Fournette from the Jaguars which didn't even play in week. Seventeen still very productive season for him. It was unanimous for all three of us the winner but in second place devante Parker which I'm confused by only because only came back from. Was this appointment. He wasn't he didn't come back from injury. It just was bad before coming back from being bad by the way coming back from being bad for four straight years I mean like devante Parker had been a preseason in sleeper and hyped up for four straight years. He was a first round draft. Pick of the Miami Dolphins five years ago and he's he's been a massive disappointment and so it's sort of shocking that in a year in which there was Josh Rosen or Ryan Fitzpatrick under center for a clearly rebuilding dolphins offense that he would put up the the numbers he did. Look I I. It was tough for me to vote between Dow and Cook a Ryan Tannehill because Tannahill was it was a backup sort of left for you know left for dead from Ami didn't draw a lot of interest on the free agent market Sunday. I believe a one year deal to go be a backup in Tennessee traded but same thing right. Sorry but he wasn't and traded for very much right is a fourth round pick. Yeah I mean so he was he went there and then you know what he did once taking over for Marcus Mariota and I believe week seven. Unbelievable I mean. He's going to be a very rich man. This offseason format and Alvin could both been hurt. I personally voted for Alvin. Cook is just because I'm just telling you why I voted for him to one thousand drummer. Oh please the Oh six goes to find your pitching a perfect game. Keep Goin' own Delvin cook running back for the Minnesota. You're not aware comeback player there. Well we all know. I love these guys because I'm spend so much time talking about their injuries. That WANNA Has Big injury that knocks him out and I think particularly for me. Part of the Comeback Player of the year has to do with expectations. Ryan Tannehill blew everybody out of the water but the expectations ends on running back with all eyes upon him to carry the franchise after the year. He had coming off the ACL which I never expected to be. An amazing year usually tastes guys an extra year under their belt before they do. The kinds of things Alvin Cook could do and I had a feeling he looked really in the preseason. When you're removed from the injury and he stood stood up to the pressure and delivered? Yeah he sure did actually thought that it was pretty clearly delving cook here with Leonard. Fournette is my next choice actually was disappointing really. Yeah I'm I'm monty Parker here like from coming back from what though he from being terrible for the first three years of his career. I mean okay. Because do you WanNa talk about Ryan Tannehill being left for dead like is there a wide receiver. That was more left for dead this season than Devante Parker who year after year after year halpern fantasy players to Cleveland. I understand that we talk about John. Ross we talked about. I mean like you. Don't think Elvin Cook back like I think. Think about it like this Delvin Cook came back from being injured which I understand but the expectation like you had said is that he would be a top fifteen running back. Nobody expected this from devante. Parker which is why I feel like there are other categories back. It's like to be a comeback player. You have to have been there historic. He was never there. Yeah he they showed up for the first time. Not Eating come back actually showed up for the first time we can. We'll have been we'll find him somewhere. We'll find out we'll find out devante. Parker made me show but I also feel like here's the other thing I just think as great devante Parker was and it was very very good. Dwell Donovan Cook was a top three running or two and Blake. Blake exactly like like to get a number like a number. Two running back is more valuable. I think then Devante Parker that. But that's the decision. Okay so you get you get the number two running back in the second round or you get devante Parker off the waiver wire maybe Gorka Devante Parker. Here's what I would say you you. Here's the other thing I would say. Sure and understand. I think value is important especially in a lot of these categories. I think it's less so here in terms of comeback player of the year about where they finished if if we were draft today right now for next year who goes first Dalvand Cook or Devante. Parker is it a points per is an AFC east league. It doesn't matter what the category is cooking. Moving along here disappointed right there. He was the biggest letdown this season for the Anti. But we've been talking about for much of the show based on both draft position and production. Here are five nominees honed in just a couple of them shocked by the way that I was not nominated in this category. I thought that was a shoo-in I wrote. You and I know you wrote me. You delivered the exact performance that we expected. Yeah that's why it was. Executive laughed at his five. He Finishes Twenty Nine Odell Beckham. Junior was drafted as wide receiver. Sexy Finishes Wide Receiver thirty-three on a per game basis better in terms of overall scoring saquon like one Barclay Brandin cooks finishes wide receiver sixty six on a per game basis and then Baker. Mayfield a top five quarterback in the preseason who finished as quarterback twenty-seven Matthew you actually went against the grain. Here you have an Odell thing and you just felt like he was the most disappointing player. He was not the winner though. Yeah I'll tell you why. Because here's the thing like saquon prized me was sake one what you wanted him to be. No but like saquon finishes a top seven fantasy running per game based on. He was awesome and plan. Exactly exactly I mean so. You know it's weird like to me if you're GONNA take one on this list. You ought to put Alvin Kamara on this list because the argument for those two guys for the argument for those two guys opportunity cost. Because as you you didn't draft Christian McCaffrey Got Barclay. or You got Alvin Kamara. You didn't get McCaffrey. And so is the opportunity cost. That's baked in. I think to the if you were to a voted voted for Saquon that you saw him see every single week and you could have had that disappointment there but yeah but yeah I mean oh go ahead no I I I am with Matthew here. That like Saquon. If we were doing this and we ate he made it be made in the the the runaway. Finish stronger finished finished. But I will tell you why I voted for Oj. So brand cooks mistime obviously with the concussions right Saquon Barkley. He got hurt as well. David Johnson got hurt as well Odell Beckham. Junior is the only guy in this list that played every single game and yet still and he he cost the most. I mean you in terms of in terms of ADP. So Branco David Johnson. We're no that is correct but David Johnson also was. It was closed for me between David Johnson. Eh Junior but I sorta gave David Johnson the benefit of the doubt because of screwed up cardinals franchise because he got hurt right. Oh No Beckham. Junior was as the three. He was the biggest disappointment. Because you had to if you drafted him this year you draft him at the end of the first round or top of the second like he he was he cost you a high draft pick and you basically basically you had to play them every week. 'cause you're like I can't bench Beckham but then he killed you every single week. 'cause he just never produced in your life. Well the schedule gets easier. Well this has got to be the week and look. He's getting the targets like he was drafted thirteenth overall. Yeah I mean I just feel like that is like I had listened and I'll cop to feel like Oto Beckham. Junior was my worst call the year because I was was all in on him. We're not doing bad calls owning it. Relax I'm just only getting tired of community because communities said that obadele junior was going to be a tough one hundred the island alone on that island celebration. Show our stops to find you. That comes my vote the biggest point it was brutal and he represents to me the entire browns organization innovation which I think was the biggest disappointment. Only if I don't normally want to correct you matthew but you said he was the only player on that list to play all sixteen games. The reason why no the Baker Mayfield played all sixteen games. Because the Brown's actually gone the gumption to tell us that Baker made they'll be there. I quarterback to start sixteen games in a season and eighteen year. You're right but I didn't see bakeries on the list as a big fantasy the red hot streak the winner is the Oh six. Oh and four the most disappointing player. This season goes to the aforementioned David Johnson look I drafted Johnson also in the war rooms. Really it is my fault yes well and we have curses to find your ball Daniel but really little tiny ankle problem partway through here. I think to me part of the disappointed with David Johnson was this precipitous fall off a cliff that no one saw coming after after he had the ankle issue. Now he didn't start out. You know amazing or maybe carry. Your team is much. She wanted to but he scored in each of the first three games this season and only one of his games since that time and listen to this week seven through seventeen only one finish inside the top fifty. You heard me the top fifty. Sometimes he wasn't even on the field we didn't even understand why healthy scratch confusion Zona. There was really the it was never clearly stated once Kenyan drake came in the signs were there that he was done but it was never really overtly stated because if you remember at one point cliff Kingsbury said well. We got to try and find the right balance for our running backs. So if you're a fantasy player thinking well maybe maybe there's still a little hope biggest disappointment of the year. I'm having I was just going to say real quickly. Here's my argument here. And I know that he wanted but I just want to quickly argue this because David Johnson at least gave you some usable weeks and then towards the second half of the season it looks Sorta Dell Dell had one top ten finish the entire year two weeks in top ten Kennedy Miller had to according Davis had two to two games with a more than ninety receiving yards. He had just four games with fifteen fantasy points or more like as four finishes at four fifteen. That's fusible David. David Johnson had had some actually really awesome games earlier in the year. And the other thing is is that once David Johnson came back and you sort of saw the writing on the wall. You knew towards the second half of the season you didn't you couldn't use them so you at least bench. You had US backing them the whole time you made the point. You're wrong but you made the point. I I do disagree with you because the whole point is if you have to bench venture guy that you drafted at the tail end of the first round. That's been twice nominated hundred percent. The listen I'm not saying David Johnson wasn't a massive disappointment. He was just thinking. I was more down moving along here. Let's get to the waiver. Wire wonder of the ear the player who hold the most fantasy value after not being drafted inside the top one hundred sixty players. The five nominees are as follows devante. Parker we've talked about a lot. So far this show Darren Waller the baller matthews favorite preseason calls Dj Char- Who Stafani grabbed and the second to last round of the warm week draft Josh Allen who was draft in just twenty point seven percent of leagues and Smoky Brown his teammate drafted in just thirty four point three percent of leagues he finishes Wide Receiver. twenty-three on a per game basis matthew. He he gets the you know what I am surprised. Not nominee on this lose at Jackson. Ajello Jack Johnson was a nice abor wire. Find the air. Yeah I'm Jackie. You want to explain. Who Jackson is accent? Yeah Jackson that works on the show in Jackson came in halfway through the year to be able to help not only publish the podcast. Get it out a little bit earlier but has has handled almost all of our social media since he came in which has been fantastic. If you've noticed that things look more succinct. It's because Kyle stop writing a long eight x tweets four and pieces And Jackson was able just put in normal human speak. That's right Jackson. Yeah exactly so anyway. If you're watching the show oh you got a shot there of a of a new a random guy. Jackson who We just picked up the street. So he's he's honestly been the waiver wire find of the year for me as somebody dumped leaks deeply exclusively deeply we all right. Let's be very clear here. Matthew went against the grain of who actually ended up with Darren. Aaron Waller the baller. I'm sure this is just a personal pick because you liked him during the preseason loved and ruin the preseason but I also part of me is again. I looked at opportunity costs like we're was. Dj Shark Dark. John Brown and Devante Parker Great. They were all awesome here. They're awesome but they're also wide receivers where it was easier to find people right same with Josh Allen. Josh Allen was awesome but again. It's easier to find a quarterback stream quarterback week in week out but the tight end position was such a landmine this year. Such a disaster and to find a guy in free agency that finished I as the sixth best tight end on a per game basis. Here to me. I think just the position that he played the production was great for all these players. But I think Dan Waller and yes. There are some personal bias there because he was my guy. I love all the baller but honestly I do think it's a legit vote because of how hard it was to find a a usable tight in this year. You you know listen. People are sifting through like maybe this is the maybe this week. The Colorado scores a touchdown like it's just you know what I mean like. I felt the tight end. Position was so hard remember. Here's a guy. Hi that led the position with five different hundred yard games. He was first in percentage of team receiving yards second catches second receiving yards among tight ends while the baller who was who was not drafted in over eighty percent of ESPN leagues is my vote for waiver. Wire wonder but once again the motors got it wrong. Pick for you. Matthew didn't get the right one but nice. He's been the Oh six for the waiver. Wire find of the year goes to find you. devante Parker about that. We talked about a full-time already. And you know what I think is the the staff jumps off the page and most free weeks eleven to seventeen. He was wide receiver. Two fantasy points only behind Michael. Thomas devante Parker I remember you talking about him. Feel when you were writing your waiver wire column and I felt like you had to push them on people and I think it's because people had seen him and didn't really believe but if you picked him up he ended up being one of the most productive people on your fancy. He wasn't credible. He was start to finish good. He met the challenge of big moments. Played great this past Sunday yesterday. Wow feels like more than just one day. Go devante Parker to me. was the clear winners to find. You has picked all five correct winner so far halfway through our words I wanNA say really anyone. The the reason why I didn't vote for Dan Waller Matthew. I wonder if this is GonNa make sense is the idea that not only did I hear you talk him up. All preseason long but he was a trendy sleeper sleeper at the tight end position. You are on it. Obviously when we went to combine it was a thing that we talked about with the offense coordinator there but the idea that there was at least a little bit of an expectation. And you were talking about during and Waller nobody was talking about Devante Parker. That's sort of what piqued me towards the Parker July. I think that's fair. I will say that like we talked to everyone else like Dj EJ Shark. We talked up We talked definitely season especially when they come out. And you know John Brown and Josh Allen were both you know preseason sleepers for a lot of people including US here. I think John Brown actually made the preseason loveless in addition to Dan Waller so But listen it's hard to argue with Devante Parker who you you know. His story is nothing short of remarkable. I love the holidays. You love the holidays Burglars Love. 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All eyes are on me right now because for those that don't know we didn't a secret Santa just before the holidays and Daniel unfortunately very sick that day that we had which left me out in the cold a poor little gift this boy because Daniel Guest Daniel got me. You were assigned me for secret Santa. Of course it was done anonymously accurate which means that I am now left. Open my gift right now which I am doing. Yeah so there's a a gift. I was very excited. I bought it with plenty of time. I bought it before a secret. Santa thing but I got this for field. Really excited about it wo- field. What is it? Wow how dare. It's a rambler. Those of you familiar with the rain will wear. This is really cool. Okay so it keeps your when you go out with your well. How about we read the card? We'll see exactly what gang someone's slid into our ward package. Dear Field I love you. You're the best cast member on the show. Read that start at the top. Don't start at the ball. Yes like every proper foot needs an accompanying boat. Shoe Sodas Otas every craft beer needs cousy. I hope this rambler keeps your tree. Houses Coldest Matthews decision to put Jameson. Drew brees on the week. Fourteen eight list. Love you bud the annual. ps You are the best member of the cast. I made that last part I wanna I WANNA see. This note made up. The last part was made up. Thank you Daniel is so sweet of you. Do you understand. This is so fun by the way. It was Jameson andries on the week. Fourteen James Andrew Reason Roosevelt. Four teen unbelievable. It's interesting I'm just I. I can't wait drink out of this. Yeah I'm just curious when you get like a sweet note like this. Yeah and it's unbelievable to saying I love you and everything like that and from from Daniel I wanna take a moment here to turn to thirsty. Kyle Kyle and ask you how it feels to see something like this. Because Daniel dot posted a number of videos on social media sponsored videos in which he he made you somebody who doesn't actually drink alcohol Hold a beer and talk about how. How great his friendship was with you? And and now here he is giving another beer to feel eight saying how much he loves him. Do you feel slighted anyway. Do you feel like you were used for the commercial aspects of Pat something to break on instagram. I'm elise he's got a lot of love to share her. We're good in the thirsty nickname you know at the beer ag and get it on. I agree let's move on to our next award. which is the rookie of the year fun? It's come on now. At least ten seasons Erica fantasy. Football's top producing rookie. The the nominees are as follows. Josh Jacobs Matthews ride or die. You know that one mile sanders the eagles who was awesome and will continue to be offered for them on Sunday when they play. He's expected to give it a go for Philly Terry maclaurin MATTHEWS WEARING HIS JERSEY Wonder who he'll be voting for Karla Murray number-one pick in the draft and AJ Brown who exploded onto onto the scene. Matthew you're the only person as a matter of fact there were only three players it received votes one of them got just one vote. It was ter maclaurin. You're the guy that voted for him. Higher our weekly finished the season that Amari Cooper Rodeo junior entitled walk and had six different finishes as a top twenty wide receiver the seasons despite the fact having to play with three different quarterbacks here on a Washington redskins offense that was thirty second in passing yards thirty seven completions tied for twenty eight passing touchdowns and yet still fifty eight catches almost a thousand in yards seven touchdowns averaged thirteen point seven fantasy points per game. It was brutal dismal awful horrific season for the Washington redskins but one bright spot. Plot was Terry maclaurin. Who I think is an absolute find an so fantasy rookie of the year? Yeah I just SORTA I felt like because this is one where obviously my heart's a little bit in it but the other piece of it here is that when you think about Josh Jacobs you think about Mile Sanders you think about Kyla Murray. They were all drafted at various. You know they were. They were miles and miles. Sanders was a trendy sleeper. In the preseason Josten so my argument was in terms of fantasy rookie of ear I also baked into the fact opportunity. Costs and maclaurin wasn't drafted in any league whatsoever so he was a free agent. You could pick up off the waiver wire. Aj Brown also in that makes his wealth so he was the other guy that I was thinking of But I thought I thought maclaurin because of the consistency that you got to learn just because the toughness feels like Aj Brandon. Really take off up until Ryan Tannehill got under center. I love the corn. He's GonNa be really promising but from weeks four to thirteen. He had one game for ten points. Just one Josh Jacobs far more consistent player player in my opinion he absolutely. What's we have not yet disclosed a winner which is why we had over the six? Oh and open for the rookie of the year goes to Josh Checkups. Oh whole voted for him. He is now our writer dive. Matthew no longer gets to Kuwait player with three games of twenty or more carries and multiple rushing touchdowns and you know for my point of view. Josh Jacobs injured his shoulder badly in October and yet he continued to play through. It played week in week out until they forced him to sit out a game in week. Fifteen and he was tearful because he really wanted to show his toughness and be able to play consistently he came back for one. More game struggled to get through it so much so that he had a hard time taking his equipment off in the post game A lot of heart and a lot of talent for this young man and love love to sit. Yeah he was awesome all year. Can't fantasy writer Dai issue with John You're on it. You seated title we get absolutely to Dot fantasy ride. It over die means ride or die all hoping the die part will take place but unfortunately we made it to week. Seventeen Matthew is still with us. Look look I just listen. I just had a big birthday. I any minute now and honestly driving here I I could get it out his brutal brutal conditions again here. Easily tradition here with the awards show. Bad weather belong to our best value. The player whose production exceeded their projected value based on. ADP So this this is players that had to be drafted in order to actually be nominated for this award. Lamar Jackson get used to his name for while. Also necker was actually drafted drafted more than you might think. Because Melvin Gordon Status Hanging out Chris Godwin very popular sleeper in the priests. Not even sleep breakout player in the preseason and then Dj more during the preseason. Lot of buzz about Curtis Samuel. This podcast was strong in the favor of DJ. More going to be the Guy Panthers. Everyone else's talking. Curtis Samuel Buzzer. Were very much like in Curtis Samuel Buzz a lot more and I think you know there were flashes but not like Dj Moorefield field. And I were very much against the grain which we were like. We are still planting our flag on. Dj More often got one vote. It was from our colleague. Matt Bowen. Enter I will. I'll just give you the case for Austin what I assume from that Matt Bowen Was Thinking Austin who went in the tenth round right and finished as the fourth best running back in fantasy. He was a top five running earning back six different times. This season he was a guy that just absolutely crushed for you obviously running back so hard to find and to get somebody as good as it was at the start of the year before. Melvin Gordon came back. He was unbelievable when you think about what he did after. Melvin Gordon returned from weeks five. Through seventeen again. Melvin Gordon is back and yet Austin that color still the he was still fit the best running back in fantasy and so that value in tenth round to find out to a top five running back in the tenth round. Yeah we it. Had the weekend weakens week in week out consistency of Austin actor. It's pretty amazing. I want to ask you this question. If you look at everybody's point totals Lamar Jackson at Clerk Kris Godwin and DJ more right now end of season and and said which of these week one is the most unlikely for them to reach. I think Austin Nikola hitting three hundred and nine fantasy points the rest of them were. We're large like Lamar Jackson. Put up a ton of fantasy points but is it possible if it all came together sure so the idea that like Austin getting three hundred fifty points I think is the least likely by the way. Especially okay if you'd said especially if you'd set all right. Here's here's all these guys. Here's the point. Tunnels which one's most likely by the way. Melvin Gordon comes back week for right awesome. Ecuador had the second most fantasy points amongst running backs just through the air as a receiver since the NFL AFL merger while most ever trailing only Christian. McCaffrey free this year. Who I remember the NFL party a long party over to you and be careful to find? Yeah I'm just GonNa tell you to save some of your ammo because popular player but without further do the oh six. No we for the best value. Goes to Lamar Jackson. Of course Brad. Craig Greater Labor. You already mentioned four hundred fifteen point seven fantasy points. It's ridiculous touchdowns per one pick nick this season. I mean that to me all you have to say because everyone knows you don't need to recite stats about Lamar Jackson and thing like this. Everyone knows house. He's the number one quarterback and fantasy he was. I'm GONNA play fantasy by a significant margin but all you have to say is like thirteenth round thirty-three incredible Value League winner for you around. Let's get onto our breakout player of the year. The player whose production exceeded expectations and this player had not previously emerged as like a surefire. No doubt about it. Fantasy asset for an entire season so familiar names. Lamar Jackson Chris Godwin. Who made the last category as well? devante Parker Darren Waller and also Austin Echlert so all five. I familiar names here. We all voted for the same player. I'M GONNA hand it right back over to you without further ado. The Oh six. Oh and for the breakout player of the year goes to back up to the stage. Lamar Jackson and don't go to the wire. That's right. Look God when was amazing. devante Parker Parker's more breakout breakout then comeback. Because he didn't come back from anything again. Austin Heckler I think same thing as a as a legit rb one. Dan Waller is top five tight end but I got Mark Jackson Chris Godwin last year so there was a hint trendy sleeper for a lot of people with really. There was a lot of doubt when it came to Lamar Jackson and instead of him you know yeah the coming to all the pressure. He soaked it up. I mean he he just. He blew expectations mutations out of the blue expectations out of the water. Also say this about Just real quickly. Just want to clarify Christian McCaffrey was the number one overall overall player in fantasy. Lamar Jackson was the number one quarterback and fantasy I misspoke earlier. So why are we talking about Lamar Jackson so All all of a sudden bag for him what are you wearing metric. I've I've procured a new shirt. How'd you get that up here? I found it. Wow woah parker. Is that a crappy band. People haven't heard of cells right. You are a matter of fact. There's there's somebody who actually who is Jesse Jackson probably not familiar with losing partner. Now how about that. He should he. I found it on Ebay. Yeah not a Christmas gift. Wow actually got two of them on Ebay Losing Harker so there's a there's a so so before I left for the The Air Force I was in a crappy band. You've never heard of called losing all my I can you. Will you sign my kid. My mother send you those t shirts no I got on Ebay. I don't believe you where's mine. Ebay has suggested I laughed only to print five live collectors. I'm sure they are hotel. So photos stopping. Oh my Gosh I cannot believe that my mother sent you photos. Oh wait. I'm so mortified right. Now if you guys can take a close up of that oh my gosh picture mind guys making a bunch of Harry styles. My mother is GonNa get home. I'll tell tell you that right now. Oh my Gosh my little brother and my best friend. David Williams our drummer Mike. EP or no I know nothing is on I tunes okay. No we don't have any music we used to have a my space but that's still exist but not the losing parker. My space page so bad. Every band has a story today. And perhaps you care to share yours. Wow did did you guys have a guy named Parker and you lost him be honest you know what I believe. There's a story about that. Yeah please tell line. You'll find. Daniel was such a terrible story. We made up a story story that we had a drummer who played with us and unfortunately passed away in a very serious car. Accident Plane Accident. Excuse me and so. We named the band and losing Parker because of it. That's not true it was just like a little duck that we had that we would like bring with us in lost. Parker would come to all this show on from William crashers. It is yeah lost a lot of we we we. We tried to make up like a cool like to be like legit working a story that you told you would drag them in with the sympathy. Dan H- all all the sympathy and then it was just like heartbreak over and over and over here Hutchinson's less chips slash using parker. I'm so disappointed. I can't believe that you're wearing in this right now. My mother is going to hear it from me I am I losing parker. Are you still in touch with the members of losing Parker. Little brother played bass and my best friend who lives in Boston Dave He played guitar so the three of us. Talk all the time Monkey who. Who was our drummer I think is A? He's a missionary in Africa. Now he's a like a solo pilot to do like twin engine taking supplies to and from Africa for media places Lisa so so yeah. I haven't talked to my keeping a long time but the rest of them. Yeah I talked to what Tapie listening. What would it take something for everyone to think about here? What would it take and match take to reunite losing Parker? It'd take a lot using. I don't think my little brother remembers how to play any of the baselines expense you. It'd be good to play. Well we we had to. What would a career night right like we got kitten chip if we got if we got You know Hitting chip came to do a live show with us. Because I know that's never gonNA happen for a fact because I know that they'll never seen live. I know that's it's not gonNA happen. What about what about international recording superstar? Eric Koch Patch wants us to Audubon son than what about the members of your ass. It's Gavin dance dance dance whatever. Yeah goals for twenty twenty years. We've got to figure this out again. Solicit Losing Parker. Listen to get the band back together. devante Parker made a comeback this year next year. It's losing Parker on my God. Talk exactly the last couple of. I decided that the name of the band losing Parker is because you guys drafted Devante. Parker like five years. Still dropped eventually kept losing dynasty Leah. Take actually you drop them into our playoff. MVP The player they had the most value during the eighties. Unhappy as we've Mama Mama Dada this losing unvbelievable. You guys should see these photos. This is weeks fourteen through seventeen so so players like Lamar. Jackson would be executed because he sat in week seventeen. The nominees are Christian. McCaffrey obviously so good all year. Kenyan drake at one hundred fantasy points during those four weeks in the playoffs Michael. Thomas kept up. His incredible season drew brees with top-scoring quarterback saquon Barkley. Was the number two running back behind only Christian. McCaffrey and Taylor higby was the number one tight end. That's right tyler. Was the number one tight end. Four players received vote. Thought the same way matthew you you went off course and you went with Tyler Hippies playoff MVP again. I'm just going with pictures and scarcity right because there are a lot of running back. That's look Chris. McCaffrey was is awesome in the fantasy. Perhaps he was awesome all year. Okay Kenyan drake was awesome prior basically since he became the starter in Arizona. Right I mean he certainly great during the fantasy playoffs. Michael Thomas drew brees Saquon. They all produce throughout the year. But Tyler higby to get eighty-three fantasy points out of a tight and you found on the waiver wire in the fantasy playoffs to me. I guess the difference between Tyler Higby and the other titans that people were starting to the fantasy playoffs versus the differently and some of the running backs in the other running backs ax. I guess for me. That's what that's the difference that it was for me with Haig seven or more catches in each of his final five games and eighty four yards in each one of those games. Higby was nothing. Nothing short of a revelation. When you need it the most you sure was and you kind of made the case for the guy? That's GonNa eventually win the award but just a note to finance vote has been the player that has won the award for our first aid. Awards can we keep it up without further. Do the Oh six. Oh and we for the playoff. MVP goes to Christian. McCaffrey no surprise here. How about you but was he too every refinished team who drafted? I mean the thing about Christian McCaffrey. That's so amazing. Is that in addition to being awesome all season in addition to the panthers not really having anything at stake they kept putting Christian McCaffrey out there. And he kept racking up the points love that all heart really playing for his fancy managers in the playoffs. Even when he personally had had nothing to gain love Christian McCaffrey. I'm just GONNA know. This is that to underscore that point. Even further Christian McCaffrey was on the highest percentage of leagues that amongst finalist so he was the most likely player to be in a championship. This year not only did in the playoffs in general as well so he delivered for more people than me. Did I hate. Hey I appreciate the case. I think that McCaffrey was more commonly Rosser on fantasy playoff teams. The other thing is. Maybe this isn't fair to Christian McCaffrey. But one of the reasons one one of the other reasons. I voted for Tyler higby. I'm like Chris. McCaffrey is GONNA win. More awards European that. Oh now that's not fair and we can talk about that in another. But that's like saying you know you. I'm just GonNa take that away from me because you shouldn't have multiple earn in multiple categories. You should get but he was just he was. MVP throughout the season. I didn't feel like he was anything special. It was basically what he was all season long. which was awesome but amazing if you take those weeks in isolation you are not supposed to factor? You're into what he did. Then you're counting. Who delivered the most fantasy points during the playoffs and his field said more points for a higher percentage of fantasy players to me? That makes him. The I've been on Chris McCaffrey friends well before it was cool like I got a lot of things since well before they were cool. Out of the woodworks eighth overall pick Komo but in all seriousness. Go back and look at preseason last year where I had. McCaffrey is as a first round pick last year and there were a lot of people that thought that was way too high. Hi and the people thought like Oh. He's GonNa get cultured by Anderson. That was a legit argument. People made they were like he's not GonNa get the scoring opportunities he's GonNa get vultures by C.. J. Anderson is he. He's GonNa get injured because is he can't hold up to a full season. Those arguments that people had as Christian McCaffrey look at his. ADP from seriously from not preseason this year two years ago where he was basically going at the end of the second round. Well let's get to our final war might involve Christian McCaffrey the player of the year and fantasy football the best player in fantasy football for twenty nineteen. We have four nominees. You can probably guess them on your own. But they are Lamar Jackson Christian McCaffrey. We just talked about those two players. Michael Thomas in Dalvin Cook Four guys that we've talked about all season. Long cafe scored the most fantasy points the mark Jackson the second most amongst those four players then Thomas and then dowding Cook and how about this with the Oh six Illinois. I'M GONNA actually go to Stefan you're right away because we had unique circumstance here the oh six zero. He goes to to Fanja Christian. McCaffrey Lamar Jackson. It was tai-bo co-winners here and winter equal opportunity. Oh yes now. You voted for Lamar Jackson Jackson. You know what I don't know what it was. Just an emotional tug here and maybe the case was this because I'm sort of factoring in a lot of different things right. Is that not just the performance but also the value right. So you got Christian McCaffrey. You could have bungled your quarterback spot maybe ended up or you know you can have guy right. He could have had them both. So it just felt like value-based drafting taking into account the Mark Jackson. We talked about it earlier thirteenth round. Like even if you didn't nail your your first round pick like maybe you took. I'm not saying David Johnson. But let's say you took. I Dunno guy who was Joe mixing it back into the first round. That's viable right. He was great down the stretch but it took them while to get there. Mike Evans who got hurt players like that could have gone conceivably at the back end of the first round U.. Pair to Lamar Jackson. You've probably still one your fantasy championship. The case McCaffrey's obvious it. But for me for Christian McCaffrey again. The injury factor comes into running back most vulnerable position it. Here's a guy who played in all seventeen games. Didn't miss a snap. Got Banged up a couple times. Had A sore back was injured yet. He was out there and still consistently delivering fantasy points even despite getting banged up despite playing a position where everyone's job up is to try to take you to the ground and hit you when you have the ball the other thing and I I don't know What the status on this curious to look in the postseason you remember going into this season? The panthers were talking about reducing his offensive snaps and they were when I went to camp they were you were hearing that his touches were going to remain relatively the same but his percentage of time on the field would be less. I don't think that actually happened. And you know. Oh if it did naps here. So so. None of that happened at Christian McCaffrey to me. The those were part of the reasons why leaned the way it did. I'll say in one of the other arguments I made was also looking. Lamar Jackson was awesome. It was tough for me. But I voted McCaffrey. I grant you that the value of Lamar Jackson but for me what I put into is also a little bit sort of the same coin. A bunch of different sides suffice it just sort of replacement value right because if you missed out on Lamar Jackson let let me say like. Let's say you use an early round. Pick on Baker Mayfield right but like if you needed another quarterback Josh Alan Ryan Tannehill. It was easier to get Jameis Winston James Own Jason Winston but listen James was finished. What did Jamie's finished says like cube six or something like that? I mean I mean like so my point is is that it was easier to find production at the quarterback position but if you drafted for for example David Johnson. You couldn't go out and find that production especially this year. Where there weren't any year there was a bad waiver wire year especially at the running back position? So Chris McCaffrey who who not only put up massive points but every single week at least twenty one fantasy points in fourteen of sixteen games this year felt like a little bit more uneven for Lamar Jackson Jackson by the way Jameis Winston thirsty on the screen. QB Five total points. Yeah I mean it's unbelievable Jaimes Winston who also went very late or undrafted in many leagues. And so for me. That was why I voted for McCaffrey. And also by the way. Just if you're going to say fantasy player of the year he ended with more points you know and which is amazing when you think about that that he actually had more fantasy points than a quarterback. It's just a matter of which way you want to examine it. But both players vary deserving of our most prestigious. They will share the what I'm being told in my ear. Right now is that they will share the our. Our budget doesn't allow for two zero six. So we're in touch with Christian and Lamar. They will mail it back and forth two months your your every other week they will mail it to each other so they can each share and the joy that is the Oh six. Oh Oh I want to say thank you to everybody that participated in this for our awards. Show we at twelve different voters. Not just the three of you but also Mike Clay outside and Feld Eric interest in both. Do a fantastic job with ESPN. Eric Cochran last Eric Care Bell interest in h Cochran as well Matt Bowen Keith. Who cannot be here with us today? Yeah Kyle Soppe the Status Pillar Daming Dubrovsky and then myself. We were the twelve voters. So Jackson didn't vote. Jackson did Nacho Ono. He did not how wrong Jackson. You can say go ahead that just comes with the territory of a late round flyer you know you get slept on for now. It's it's a future so you should. You deserve a vote. You deserve as much vote is as you know. The worst member of Losing Jackson Twenty Twenty Jackson a year. We also WANNA thank a lot of people that put a ton of hard work that goes into this podcast. Every single day in Carolina and Isaac and our entire video team hundred percent many many people those that actually take the video and produce it digitally distributed attributed onto ESPN DOT com social media all of those involved the entire crew behind the glass. Let me just tell you that these people were incredibly hard our our engineers. Kyle Soppe you man. Everybody you got to the amount of work this guy puts into. That show isn't credit. Everybody does but without him. I don't know where we are the backbone of what we do Daniel is our focal point. He is our heartbeat. Everybody that works on this podcast every single day. A lot of love into it and is an incredible job did we are one hundred percent. I Echo all those sentiments midfield it takes a cast of thousands to make us seem semi presentable So we cannot thank them enough did we. WERE WE GONNA total up the board. What did we want to do that right now? Because Keith is not here we have an unofficial board tallying which I'm going to let kyle takeover. Okay okay you guys are tied going into the season long long bets. Yep Matthew made a strong push feel that some Jarvis Landry exposure. We are currently tied fourteen to fourteen with this moment. That's off. Aw Tired of the past four years. Which one of you is Christian McCaffrey? Which one is Lamar Jackson? In this scenario question I would say. He's Lamar Jackson. More dynamic. He's at well. He's surround more spry. He's more spry and he's the quarterback he's the one who sort of you know he the host of the show he yeah he distributes the ball. You know that we were going to get less. I think it's pretty obvious. That's fair that's fair enough so anyway fourteen fourteen. That's amazing after after all all the Year of all the board bets that we wind up tied on fantasy will now we had the red zone. which after what was it something? Like one hundred seventy questions over. The course of a year is daytime. We you and I were tied. I won by the Tiebreaker. And you and I were tied we beats defined by one question on the over one hundred seventy some odd questions over the course of seventeen the season and three record breaking we also want to thank my clay who did a great job stepping into the podcast. SDFS fast. We'll continue to run during the playoffs. Every Mike Daniel and Smith. Oh No no no you ask Squirrel Squirrel Clay and SMITHVILLE. Thank you guys for all your fun every single day and being a huge fan of my life I hire season. I have to tell you I. I wish everyone would have the opportunity to spend at least one day working with field. Yates to find Bel and Daniel Dot. Because you guys are incredibly patient. Supportive amazing teammates. It is a true pleasure to work with each of you every day. It's a real honor for me You guys put up with a bunch of Shenanigans. Yes you have incredible patience and I'm incredibly flattered and an thrilled and cannot think any of you enough. Thank you for letting me do what I do and you know Making the show use. I'd guess what it is so we. They are honored to work alongside you all were I wanna I WANNA say a couple more. Thank yous if you don't mind would love to thank everyone that came out in New York in Baltimore two more in Detroit at at at Soho At the for the For the Star Wars ride skywalker. I Walk Event. That was a lot of fun. It's always great to see fans We will be out live on the road again next year. Our thanks to everyone on the social media team here at ESPN That that helped distribute You know we already talked about some of the video people as well but our thanks to everyone at the ESPN Youtube Channel at At facebook for ESPN's ESPN fantasies. FACEBOOK page our friends at twitter. Thank you to everyone over. ESPN APP as well and honestly league field. I'd also listen. Thank you to our fans we we say every time the nation is the greatest group of fans. It's so awesome going in public and meet you guys When Enfield you and I've had this conversation privately is to find out how you and I have as well as long Daniel is like when I go out and people recognize is me in public? The first thing that comes up is the podcast. Sometimes we'll mention the column or they'll mention you know stern or the meant to the fantasy show or festival now or something like that. They'll mention you know avengers league but the by far the majority is the podcast is the Oh six. Oh One oh and we've been doing this a long long long time and the only reason we get to do it is because people Like yourselves tune in every single day that you least download whether it's weird for me because usually it goes they. They asked me about losing parker first and then they asked me about of course obviously the podcast. Yeah that's not. This is not goodbye the by this is not goodbye for a while. This is so long for now putting a wrap on twenty twenty twenty two thousand nine hundred nineteen. Yeah try. aww Man slipped after under the if you do subscribe to the podcast. Keep that subscription. Don't unsubscribe we won't be spamming. Your podcast folder. We will just be adding some notes in there occasionally beyond the CSS DFS podcast which combined every Thursday throughout the playoffs. And then I might be biting up more than I can chew maybe some executives or something wrong here but we're GonNa have some fun and mix it up this off season with a couple of ideas that might be not just fantasy. We'll have some fun and figure something out and maybe just some some just some talking-shop we we will have. We will have a lot of fun with that. Oh and last thing I should think I should think everyone that played in the man's and women's leagues. I want to thank the Celebrity League I thank you very much. Darius Rucker Rucker to Rachel Lindsay to Lord and Miller to Anthony Mackie to Toepfer Grayson Sim. CERNA feel to you and to John. Legend Zach Ephron too. Kyle Busch to Jim Parsons to Evan. Longoria and to our twenty one thousand nine champion miles teller. Keller who Eagles just made the play a couple of weeks and He had a he had a great fantasy. So Great. Great Life for miles teller. Congratulations to him. And by the way top gun looks awesome next film so That looks so anyway. Thank you to all of our celebs for playing you. WanNa give a shout out to Who Do we know who one are men's and women's leagues? No I know that Stephanie and I did not do well in our in our source subject for you guys in the show. We just didn't do very well Matthew Berry. I don't what you want to say about it but I will say this and the end of the year. You can't defeat us. which was tracy long long came in first beating Josh felder the crappy span? You've never heard of from three twenty two ninety so congratulations to tracy man. I like it fine. I played very poorly this year. I would like to say stuff well. You drafted the first seven rounds. Nowhere to go up the twenty one thousand nine hundred ending twenty nineteen with a shot across the bottom. Sorry I take that back I love you love all the fans. We'll talk to you guys sometime time soon. Happy New Year without you guys later. Peace out six. Never in case you did Matthew Berry you you you guys go ahead and give me creep for being on sportscenter forty five seconds make you better than me. Because I don't think you could save your your your your terrible at ars tag impromptu stuff very the secrets. Daniel McLean uh-huh.

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Slash lebatardshow for more information. As someone who lives in breezy college football, I can promise you that this season will bring the mayhem. You'll feel it during huge wins and heartbreaking losses on Dame, winning drive or on drives it in a post game Fender bender. This season up teaming up with AllState. The highlight these key moments to let things no, if mayhem can show up on game day, imagine what can happen. The rest of the week for expert advice call your local agent today. It's a tradition, unlike any other sad, dolphin, Mondays, sad, dolphin, Mondays, bright side. You didn't lose it because Voss wiler so two games in actually the spot duty that he had against New England. He hasn't been bad. He hasn't been Brock Osweiler. It's Monday, said off Monday and Jason leisure. He's making our said, dolphin Monday, even sadder by gracing us with his presence. Jason leisure covers the Miami Dolphins for the Palm Beach post. Thank you for joining us in Suto, Jason. You're welcome. Mike, did you invite me because we're talking about the dolphins are because it said here because it's sad. Okay. Said we needed to kick up. Sad. Dolphin Monday. I shall sad correspondent. We needed spice things up a little bit. Maybe he should. Come in only after losses. Let's do that. That's what we were doing with you. For the longest time, we would only check in with you after losses for the appropriate tone. One thing that brightened my day today was I came in here and I see you ROY, Chris. And when I didn't see Billy, I really felt what's an Anthony m for disappointed, happiness. There you go. What's that? Like, Mike, you guys need a fix your relationship. This is getting way too contentious between you and Billy and I feel like you have more common than you actually do. I think you have the same sort of sunny disposition about all things. You're actually a lot more similar than than we'd let onto the listeners. I wish you guys would give me a schedule of all the other times when he's gonna be out doing holiday decoration reports from New Jersey or wherever he is because skit you can schedule me right now for every one of those local hours. Well, it isn't a coincidence that you're in here right now because of that specifically because I believe whatever's happening. It's the feeling is mutual. All right. We gotta bring the energy up in here a little bit. Jason's got generally not great energy, Mike traveled, Chris, you know, it's a Monday. We gotta bring it up in here. I had a lot of energy on Friday. I think I should become the energy guy. Yeah, it'd be the energy. You're the guy off the bench. I question why the dolphins receive. I was at the game yesterday. I was getting all the details. They, they won the coin toss. You don't receive if you guys ever played Madden. I always receive on Madame, no. Oh, yeah. Have you. Defer. Thank you, Jason. You want to won that game on halftime. On the full Kris when you when you win the coin toss and Madden, do you kick a receive in just in general? Not even a man. That's just where I relate to how Emad annoys received to get the ball. Oh, you gotta have that. It's such a good feeling. Knowing you get the ball in the second. Half always defer, and deferring is a relatively new thing when I was growing up, teams always just elected to changed. Yeah, times have changed soon as we received. As soon as the referee said, the dolphins have won the toss they've chosen. I was like, damn it teams always used to receive a new lost right. Then I actually did feel said just now when I heard you say put it on the poll Chris. Yeah, that sounded like a like a foreign language like things just aren't right here to Chris put it on the poll when you play Madden to kick or receive after you win the toss everyone picks receive. That's not true. Everyone picks receive a fully. There isn't a video game player. That's like I want to set the tone on defense. That's not something that happened me this show. Actually, you know, I guess somewhat meat generally covered the game very well yesterday very thoroughly, Greg Cody was there in the press box. ROY was they're doing great investigative journalism that we can get back to later. I was drunk in the stands. Yeah, Yep, ROY, we don't do enough with you knowing that you're actually out there covering the game. It was the first you hearing of rhino might. We've mentioned it. It's just one of those things that there, but we we need to do more with it because you're one of the people that actually lends credibility to our our shenanigans not much well, speaking of credibility, there was a joint ESPN radio Palm Beach post journalistic investigation yesterday at the dolphins game. And if you've seen that will not allow there was a joint in the press box. All right. Thank you Christiane although I actually liked that one. I got your back. That's funny. But if you seen these movies like the post and spotlight and things like that, I mean, it was along those lines ROY, and I did some digging about the the woman, the security guard that Kenny stills inadvertently obliterated after that touchdown catch and ROY, and I were checking with sources. We were, we were going through back channels and getting background information and everything was going great in that endeavor, but ROY being somewhat inexperienced at this, I think that's the nicest way to put it ROY at one point declared to one of our sources. Don't worry all this is off the record. So now we, we can. Yeah, we now we can't reveal anything that we've learned why he just volunteered that all of it is off the record. I think it's probably sounded like a cool journalism type thing to say just kind of felt natural to you. Yeah, didn't actually. Oh, good. We're already into deep. So I think it's one of those things. ROY always wanted a chance to say, but just very bad timing. So outside of devante Parker and devante Parker agent, the get from yesterday is a security guard who is obliterated by Kenny stills hurt and actually shook Kenny stills up to now is he gonna play on Thursday. We're going to find some things out today. It's a really weird week for the dolphins, and I don't know if every NFL team does this. I think that they do. I would suspect that they do, but the dolphins won't practice this week. They not able to practice on after Thursday game because it's not reasonable to ask these guys advancing about Thursday game. Yes, that's what I mean. It's not reasonable to ask these guys to practice on a Monday or Tuesday following a game, and you wouldn't want to put them through an actual practice the day before a game. So we're not really gonna see any. Nobody really testing anything out this week, and there's a lot of injury situations that we don't know about the dolphins. Right? Yeah. And on the Texan side too, and we'll get into that later. Really fascinating stuff that they're doing with their quarterback, but you guys secure the get you an ROY, explain this to me, ROY. You descend to the bowels of the stadium where the security guard is getting treated as this after after the game. How paint the picture for me in the audience? I gotta stop ROY real quick, ROY. We'd not. There's not a single thing about this. We can divulge without getting sued. Okay, we'll try to explain this as carefully as possible. We know everything there is to know about this situation. That's right. However, we can talk about it. Right? So you can talk about the scene and how you got in place. You just can't go over any of your interaction because ROY, just volunteer heard that everything is off the record. I, I'm not even sure why you did that, but how do we team up on future projects and we'll get right, right. So you guys just mobilize and you. Decide you need to talk to this lady? Yeah, we had a pertinent questions that need to be answered. Unfortunately, screwed up, burnt burnt questions that I would've loved to find out to a found out exactly what injuries she sustained, how she doing. She going to be able to go to work. She could ask to be moved, what is she normally that close to answer any of those questions were? Unfortunately, I cannot put privately. We know we know ROY and I know, but tell you off the air what's happening right now. Just tell us even do that. Tell me, can you? Can you can you? Is this a legitimate thing that you? You said everything's off the record? Yeah, I did. I was your source. It sounded great when he said it sounded like out of a movie. Why would you? But if warranted, the actual Jason ROY journalism do. Oh, that was happening. Okay. So I out say, did you talk to anybody else that could answer questions, pressing questions that I'm listening to on south Laura radio this morning, which is, why is that wall so close to the end zone? Why is making. Money, so much more important than players safety. Why is she not looking? I feel like that one's fairly obvious. She has to look at the sands right as opposed to what's happening on the field. I'm pretty sure that the people on the field got things covered. I can't answer. I cannot give you the. We asked all those questions and I cannot use any of the answers that we got to those. You didn't cross references with anybody as an employee of the of hard rocks ADM. Does she wave any sort of legal. Ramifications here, any liability. Is there any legal liability on a hard rock stadium or when you sign an employee employees agreement, do you assume that risk? It was a question I was brought up on. Fortunately, I can't DeVos the answer. They will go. I got a question. What the hell was Matt Patricia, wearing long black pants, long, black shirt in like ninety eight degrees. I was sweating more just looking at him. Yeah, he was and he's on the sunny side of the stadium to where there's no shade until about five o'clock, which is useless. Yeah, they mean to do that, right. That's brilliant architecture. I figured that out it's intentional. So let's talk a little bit about the game because Matt Stafford was okay effective, but this wasn't the way that the Detroit Lions actually attack their opponents. They were gashing the Miami Dolphins with a run. I was reading a pro football focus right up on it, and apparently Kiko Alonzo had a very difficult game with miss tackles. Has this been something. That the dolphins have struggled with this year. I mean, I guess the bright side is a stop the pass, but that's just because the run game was so affected for Detroit while and they've not been playing from behind his often. So teams are more inclined to throw than they were last year, but this is a personnel group that has had trouble stopping the run at linebacker. They're a little on the smaller side which they would tell you is by design because you need those guys to be able to play all three downs and the impasse coverage. But there's some elements of this that I was kicking myself for after the game yesterday because I felt like we should have seen this coming with the defense. Their defense has been very flashy. It's gotten a lot of turnovers, but it has not been a steady play to play stopping the run defense. And if a team comes at, you would have expected Matthew Stafford to come in with a couple of turnovers, but he didn't if team comes in and plays a pretty clean game and doesn't allow you to erasing ninety yard drive with an interception in the red zone, then it's going to look a lot like this and they give up five hundred yards or so maybe a little less than that two hundred and fifty on the ground. Why? Didn't you see this coming. I was. I was blinded by all those big, fancy takeaways, Chris, I, I felt like they were. They were offsetting all that and I forgot that it's not just you can't just count on that every single week. I think we should defer to you a little bit though. Do you know Chris, Chris Cody? Obviously he was at the game and said he was drunk in the same Christmas at training camp. I mean, Chris has been around covering it from all angles double days the sandwich member of the media drunk fan. So he's he's run the gamut. And also specifically he's sitting in the end zone because yesterday he's sitting in section one thirty one because he wants that all twenty two viewpoints. Aki that that coaches us. Yeah. So can you break it down for us a little bit, Chris? Why was the run defense so bad? I was focusing on the wide receiver DB matchup smoke because it's hard to unless you're rewatching it on film when you're watching it live, it's hard to watch. You know, they did a good job. Gallaudet came in playing very well for them. Right? Yeah. And saving Howard did a good job Alber Wilson to was doing. All right. I was actually impressed with Brock Osweiler like I'm not doing this Bill. Thing where I'm saying that there's actually a quarterback controversy, but he's been really impressive. And I don't know why he's like he does. Is he Brock osweiler's? He shows you like a game or two of, oh, he can actually do this. But really he's just Brock Osweiler not recently. He hadn't been showing you the positives. He'd just been showing you bad Brock Osweiler. So it's good for him. He's so has this in them. He wasn't why you lost game. The defense clearly wasn't issue. The run defense primarily and the offensive line troubles were broken record. Tunsil tonsils plan very well. This season for Miami. He was solid by all accounts, but the offensive line is still a huge issue for the semen isn't even correctable. You're running out of bodies. I mean, when you talk about Tunsil playing well, that's just that's great, but that's just twenty percent of the line. And you've already lost two of your starters for the year, your center on your left guard? I think they were playing a third string center at left guard yesterday in place of Ted Larsen who was. I'm John. James has been up and down. I would say the last couple of years. So other than Tunsil and there's a lot of question marks there and they're con- they're, they don't. There's not anyone else for them to go to the next guy in line to play tackle by the way. If there's an injury is this guy's ex there who is enormous. He's gigantic six foot, nine nice, offensive lineman. But I, I think he's played one career game, so he's very untested. Well, I'm sure dolphin fan and sin at home or a little frustrated because you go up against Khalil Mack and that bears defense and pass, rushing and Miami does creative things with a personnel groupings. I bring a Nikko Leary. They're doubling Khalil Mack, the entire game chipping in with running backs. Sometimes putting lineman on them and they neutralize one of the better pass rushes in the league and then week-to-week. Why is it that that can carry over? Is it because Detroit does different things schematically so you can't just approach them the same way you can nickel Leary is being wasted out there because there isn't anybody to double. So. He's just blocking nobody in space. What what changed we tweak? They've got solid personnel, but they don't have any stars that are just going to erase deficiencies and they've got deficiencies there. One of these teams that's middle of the road just like the Troy choices. And if you boy, if you're middle of the road team and you're hoping to get the tenant, six, you got to win a home game against the Troy really need, especially in October when it's so hot down here, but they don't have this destructive pass rusher like Khalil Mack, who's going to change everything for you and on the other side of the ball, the counterpart to that is they don't have a game changing quarterback. That's going to override all of those shortfalls. So they're gonna have to hope that it holds together and come up with these creative plans that change week to week. And as you get later in the season, teams will expose where you're weak. And few coaches in the NFL would be this is very unlucky for Adam. Gates that in Matt Patricia, first year in Detroit, a team that they play once every four seasons, hap-. To be on the schedule this year and Matt, Patricia, and Adam gates know each other's game as well as any two coaches in the league. I know that voice you're hearing is Jason leisure from the Palm Beach. Postseason Sutil with us all day today covers the Miami Dolphins. We're gonna lean on his expertise. There's tons of interesting stuff to talk about. We haven't even hit on the most interesting aspect of this game, which is devante Parker agent going scorched earth on Adam gays, and this organization we'll get into that after the break support for the day. Lebatardshow podcast comes friends at rocket mortgage by Quicken Loans. Let's talk about buying a home for a minute because of rising interest rates. There's a lot of unpredictability when it comes to buying a home these days, it's causing a lot of anxiety and stress for a lot of people. Well, our friends at Quicken Loans doing something about that. They're calling it, the power buying process. Here's how it works. 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Doc yourself in is what I meant not strap it on one hour. I meant shut yourself in here dance to God's listen. It was a poor choice at word for phrasing, but I meant rep in because there are several big words coming up in this last story. Go strap anything about the show with the stugatz on the ticket. It's a sad dolphin Monday. We made it extra sad because we brought Jason leisure. The Palm Beach post cover of the Miami Dolphins. Hello beat writer of the Miami Dolphins, beat writer of the Miami Dolphins, not not a happy beat up, beat writer, not not enough beat, just just downtrodden and Pete. That's what that's what I was trying to do. You guys have said a writer because there's such an early morning show, and I'm so unaccustomed to that. You said you get in here at like seven AM to do this seven thirty. That's that's I understand that. That's what the rest of the world pretty much does. Yeah. Yeah, alarm for like six thirty today to get here. It was awful. And I wake up in such a fog in the morning in general. That is not a good time for me. Do you wake up sharp in the morning or you're good to go the second. You wake up like you could do your taxes? Yeah, I wake up very sharp. I'm a very light sleeper, so I always have some form of consciousness going on throughout the night. You got you guys in the back, Chris, ROY, you guys do dumb things in the morning, just because it's the morning. Yeah, I'm really bad. I'm like that. Okay. Now, yeah, I'm not like the rest of the day though. You guys are good. So you're not really though with one thing one, there's there's one thing that I consistently do foolishly in the morning special coming down here. If you if you drive, I ninety five. They have the express lane, and I can't be the only person that does this in south Florida. I get duped so many times because it happens to be ninety. Five happens to be moving well at the point where you need to decide whether or not to get in the express lanes for seven dollars or whatever it costs that day. And so I'll be like, I think I'll be alright without it. And immediately you get over a hill and you realize you're not yet. Definitely taken the express. That's a rookie move by the way I did that, but I've been driving down here for years and I still do it because it's early morning and I just like my brain is an on yet. I like the first year we were working out here. I felt for that like a handful of times, but now all even get in the express late now because sometimes the express lane is like jammed up. Right? Like fully jammed at the time? Yeah, at the time. And I'm like, no, I'm still I still get in because I know it's just it's going to end in like a mile and then it'll be clear. And then in the regular traffic slows up right after I'm still falling for them. And the other incredibly dumb thing I did today was when I was getting ready to leave. I was like, I wonder how bad the traffic is, and I'm not kidding. You, man. I don't understand this. I'd like peaked out through the blinds in my front window like you would to see if it's raining. I mean, no, no. There was no traffic in our cul de sac at that time. You know what I get mad at when I do take the express lane. I look over to the other lane, get jealous of how quickly it's moving. I paid good money to move quicker. Than you and I am, but you're so moving a little too quick for my liking. So I do get filled with jealous rage sometimes. And also I feel often validated when it slows to a crawl because I'm like, yeah, that's why you pay. Do you ever make note of some like car? Like it's a green car that just went by. It's like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, visual markers. Yeah. The license plate frame sticker or something? Yeah, yeah, visual markers. You also I do that whenever car cuts me off. I'm like, okay, I'll remember this. And then I catch up to that car and I pass them. I'm like, well, why were we in such a rush five minutes ago here I am. I pass you. You're all sorts of complain and before and here we are same exact spot. You happy and proud about seventy year old lady. Just like not. She doesn't even know you exist and you're just like a ha- you ever watched thirty rock and Tracy Morgan. Like one time he has to get up early and he's like, I can't believe it. They got TV and food almost everything in the morning, and I'm like that too. Where I'm like, just discovering that not only are the interstates packed, but there's like there's something called school in the morning, which creates local traffic for you to even get to ninety five or the palmetto, oh, school zone. Zona terrible. You should just be able to fly through school zones, right? No, I don't think that works probably not. The best they might sit a couple. What do you want to talk about before we dive into the Xs and os Jason of yesterday's game. I have another take away at being at the game yesterday and the all twenty two point eight where you were the a couple of weeks back. We talked about the unsung heroes of an airplane or the wheels when you land there important? Yes, but you don't think about him. I found out yesterday the unsung hero of football game the ballboys that tossed the balls into the referees. These guys get some distance and they are accurate. This guy's like standing on the sideline. He does a nice little underhanded toss. Perfect spiral like thirty yards right to the ref puts the ball down. Like if we had inaccurate, there'd be wrestling trying to cut you. Notice you never see balls flying around because you take that for you take that like they must have tryouts or something. I think I'd be decent at it before the game. I was actually there often. They often do the underhand spiral. Yeah, which is very impressed. Absolutely. Take that for granted. I'd love to see like Chris Cody like Jon Gruden style quarterback camp for the ball or the ball, or just like a like a trauma like to see like a behind the scenes like the tryouts how they get those ballboys because they don't just take anyone 'cause you they must the way these guys are so precise, they must have extensive tryouts. I saw him doing trials once for the guys that run around with the giant flags. I know one of those guys, they do. I don't want much more details to that story. So I don't really wanna get into Xs and os because we did that the first segment, Chris, we haven't really touched on the voluntary Parker thing really bogged down in the technical aspects. We're so bogged down in peace. Okay. Big talking point devante Parker agent, Parker's frustrated. Dolphin fans pretty much see drafted. What is this? It's third or fourth. Listen, this is fourth season and after three years at wide receiver you need to start figuring it out and four years. Was this a bus of a pick? We can get into that later. But the main talking point was he was inactive. And after the game, his agent did something you never see an agent do. This is a statement from Jimmy goal, Demonte porkers agent. I am responding that coach gates is not telling the truth and is decision was an example of poor management and cost a team, the best opportunity to win. He continues attacking the health of my client and that is not acceptable. Parker is not only healthy but wants to help his team win. And the only real question that should be acid is how does ga- coach gays justify his own incompetence the team average only six point one yards a catch. They needed Parker active. He is completely healthy and was in full partic-. Station all week in warm ups, and in warm ups this morning, something smells in Miami is how he ends that this is. I mean not something that you see often in agent do does Jimmy Gould, Demonte porkers agent question for you, Jason. Does he represent anybody else on this theme that you know of? I'm not sure Mike. How contentious? Obviously, it's boiled over here, ugly in public. How how upset has devante Parker been behind the scenes? Does he talk to the media? Has this been something that's been brewing this catch the media covering this totally off guard. I think devante Parker is upset about how things of gone, but he, I don't picture him saying something like this, which is part of why you haven't agent say things like this for you. I, I don't see devante Parker throwing a tantrum or unloading on somebody in the locker room going on a tirade against Adam gates or something like that. What's interesting to me about the situation. Mike is you see them yesterday. Into the game with no healthy receivers there. They had two left on the field both point through injury Juki grant and Danny amendola, and they move at the end of the game while they're trying to win the game. They moved Kenyan Drake, the running back out to receiver and Kenyan Drake says, I don't. I can do it. I'm fast and I can catch, but I don't know the place at that position. So they're basically just telling they call play, and then they tell Kenyan Drake, here's the route for you on that play. And so he goes and does it much like you would just drawing a plays in the dirt with your friends? And now, especially with Albert Wilson? Probably out long-term. Now you need devante Parker. Now you need this guy to salvage your season there. Four and three and whatever you think about the dolphin season and its prospects going forward. They don't think it's a lost season at all. At four and three, they're still fighting. They still think they're pushing toward a playoff spot. And if you're trying to win this week's game at Houston, which is in three days, you really need devante Parker. And it's an interesting situation for Adam gates to be to be in a position where he needs a guy that he has obviously. Upset greatly over the last couple of months. Why don't understand the disconnect here? Like if he is healthy like the agent says, why can't? Why isn't he just like he's not playing so like they're obviously not playing for a reason. He's a healthy scratch. And you've seen you've seen shortfalls from devante Parker. You've seen a, he's not this great number one receiver that he was drafted to be picked fourteenth overall, what I the part I'm I don't understand, which I think is kind of where you're headed with this, Chris. Argue, all you want about devante Parker not living up to his draft status. He hasn't. There's not really discussion to have there, but he is good is good player. He does help you. It's better to have devante Parker, take draft and take salary cap. Take all he doesn't even make much money, but take all those things out just as a football player that you already have signed. He does. It is better to have him out there than to not have a mouth. Why? Why is gates lying about it though? If the agents telling the truth, why wouldn't gays? If he is healthy? Just say he's not in my, he's nine. It's started for us. I'm not dressing them. Why does he have to lie about it? If hypothetically, that's what's happening. I, you wonder if he thinks devante Parker, maybe can't handle hearing something like that. They got started without devante Parker this year because he broke his finger in training camp and so they get rolling with these other four guys. And then he starts to get healthy and they work him in to a plan that's already rolling and they're winning at that time. If you remember this started three, no, in many hurts his quad. And is it's again, it's a guy that there. They're not counting on devante Parker this season like they have in years past, they've got a plan and if they can fit devante Parker in if he contributes something, it's a bonus up until this point. Now you actually are going to need them on Thursday. Yeah. Well, you mentioned that they're going to need them, but fixing issues in that locker room with players don't necessarily fit what he's trying to do down here. That hasn't been a strength. Adam case. He usually shifts these guys out. It would be a revelation for Adam gates actually make this situation work with at now. Absolutely. Might you nailed it? Good talent has left the building in Miami and some of those traits. I think we're good moves, but you can't dispute the good talent has left in Miami at different times because guys didn't fit either schematically or attitude wise or a variety of reasons. Jordan Phillips j Byron, Maxwell Dhamma consume Jarvis Landry Mike pouncey. You have seen good talent, leave the building for a variety of reasons, and in some of those Scituate. Nations and were at that point with devante Parker right now. I think that the answer can't always be my way or the highway. When you're a leader when you're running an organization like Adam gazes sometimes you're gonna have to work things out with these guys. Yeah, so Adam gates is indeed a my way or the highway guy, which is odd because he doesn't give off. He doesn't have that disposition with media. He's not this dictator coach, but his actions are speaking louder than his press conference availabilities in this case. And he's absolutely that kinda guy, but he's going to need a body because you have a game here in about three and a half days against the Houston. Texans do Jason. Do you get a sense in the locker room whether the guys that are still there are buying into gazes theory, or are there guys in there that are like, man, all these guys are gone, like gays, come on, man? No, I think there's buying in their locker room right now. Not obviously maybe devante Parker would feel differently, but I think by and large, especially the key guys, the leaders, the best players on that team. I don't think there's, I don't think they've lost faith in Adam gates at all. I don't think that's what happened. Jason leisure. The palm. Each sports Miami Dolphins beat. You mentioned that Albert Wilson is hurt, how do they replace them? The natural place at minds veer to is to grant. They do some of the similar things have similar speed, but this is going to be quite the drop off. Isn't it? Nobody does. Nobody. Nobody not only Mike does no one on the team do what? Albert Wilson does. No one in the league has done so far this year, what Albert Wilson does leads the league in yards after catch and you go back to games ago to the bears game where he catches. I think it's a seventy five yard touchdown pass and a forty something yard touchdown, pass from Brock Osweiler both passes caught around the line of scrimmage, both passes that you could have made, and he turns them into these gigantic gains Brock osweiler's quarterback rating in that game on those plays shot from mid sixties mid nineties because of what Albert Wilson does. And no one else on this roster can do it. Kenny stills is a big play threat. He's hurt too. By the way, he's got to injuries, but he's more of a deep threat. You gotta throw it deep for him. That's how you use him best. Danny amendola guy catches a lot of passes, but he's not going to turn up field like our Wilson does. She came grant is the closest but she came grant isn't isn't at the level of our Wilson. He hasn't accomplished whatever Wilson has in four years in the NFL for Wilson and he hasn't. He hasn't had the opportunities. He doesn't have the experience doing that. That Albert Wilson has that shakes unleash. How many times have I said his name this segment? It said enough radio polish to chase and leisure. The Palm Beach post dolphins expert and beat writer. He's been in with us this entire Monday, giving us the best offense coverage in the market. Wanna get into some fun stuff. There's an interesting story with Sean why should break down the Texans, Mike? Yeah, there's an interesting story with a look at this polish look look at us. All right. Give us a call though. It seven, eight six, four, five, six, four, eight, three, seven. We want to have some fun which as in in the next segment. So do that seventy six four, five, six, four, three, seven. It is Tim Legler's, nine days, Halloween holiday, spectacular, bonanza today that means gear. KOMO who's been missing from this local hour. He's actually in New Jersey. He's going to be reporting live from Tim leg lifts real fast. Before we go to break, do you, what do you think of the idea? 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The Michael Jordan and blue cheese last week. We're going to get to your calls here in just a second one. Interesting. Note to the dolphins are playing on Thursday, quick turnaround for them. They're not practicing this week because it's a physical sport how AFC east was yesterday that everybody wins except the everyone loses, except just the way that they lose it home they did. Everyone gets dismantled and and the patriots get to special teams touchdowns to beat the bear all the rest of the division loses at home to the line. That's correct. The Texans are on deck. Texans are curious place with their quarterback because he is too injured to fly. He has a crazy store, all sorts of raising injuries to his chest tournament lungs, too dangerous to fly, but apparently not too dangerous to hop on a bus for twelve hours and face the league's most physical defense in the Jaguars Jaguars. This is crazy. I don't. I don't know how this is allow have they not seen the statistics on how much safer flying than driving. That wasn't. That wasn't the reason though. Chris, I think it had to do with the air pressure. We go out to jog a rib injury, doesn't he? We go out to Josh, John love when you go full. Oh, when you go full, it's the greatest and people don't know whether you're playing a character is, you know? Yes, you don't know. No, he wasn't playing a character that time that was. Josh, what are you to Michael Jordan of me, I am the Michael Gordon drinking beer. Now, that's my bad. Sorry, my dad's got that. Sounds like help. I do need help. My I got a bet from Cam and maiden when he was playing single, a ball here in grand rapid Michigan, they show what to alliance by the way, but I want to know what the price would be like on something like that and felt Ford market. You owe twenty dollars. Wow. What are we. Remember dealers like, what did he tell the wrong number. All right. We go out to David David. What are you the Michael Jordan of. I am the Michael Jordan of overthinking everything. Billy Gardell calling in and I will be spending the rest of my day overthinking every word that I said on this call. So. My question was I like cooking. I like having cooked, but I don't like cooking. I don't like all the prep and all the cleanup it takes. So I'd like never cook. Is there anything that you guys would like to do more but are too lazy to do. Workout, be better radio. What is the segments supposed to be? What are we doing? I thought it was like a Michael Jordan thing, but they're asking questions. That's how they start is this because on the local hour, leisure on the local hour, EP ADD two thousand eighteen. People need a bunch of different stimuli cancers be called. It has to be called with a point and then they've got to do a different thing and we gotta keep like giving stimuli. So we don't lose them to the other stimuli. I'm embarrassed that I didn't realize I was being played by Chris Cody back there. And Ed reminds me of yesterday. Somebody we were talking about the Shawn Watson, having to travel the way. Did someone in press box mentioned that he had to take a bus the game, and I immediately thought that he must have taken a greyhound. I don't know. Why would ever think that you thought that he'd liked picked? He went to like the bus station in Houston. He went to the greyhound station and obviously the worst part of Houston. And I mean only for a second, it wasn't like I continue to believe this for a long time and but for a couple of seconds later Resnick wait, no, that would never happen. You were in here asking me if I've ever been on a greyhound before the segment we'll. Yeah, because I've been kind of fixated on on my brought me back to my greyhound experience that had once riding a greyhound from New Orleans to Chicago back when I was in college and it was enough to teach me never to do it again. Well, but I think that Mike, Mike, I know that the framing of the narrative today is gonna be out, can Sean was not fly, and he has the play football. I'm guessing that he traveled in better comfort than any of us have ever traveled anywhere, like not a greyhound. Good. I'm guessing I'd like to get some reporting done on what was the bus he actually took because I'm guessing it was really nice and he came with his family and stuff, and it was a lovely trip. That sounds like a classic job for the Jason, ROY. Investigative journalism duo on it? Yeah. They like to mobilize in spring into action yet somehow midway through their investigation, they say, this is all off the record by the way. Now they, they didn't say it. I'm not here to point fingers, but it wasn't me out of the two of us. Listen, I'm not exactly. You know a season journalist on kind of a rookie. There's some new and I screwed up. Maybe don't say that next time you got the talent, he's raw. Then you guys tell the audience might be new to this, the specifics of what happened there. Again, if you don't mind. I mean you were sitting here listening to it when we distracted, I was distracted. I'm sorry. For the audience was home. You've never been on a greyhound bus heavy. Then I have been yes, really? Yes. When I took one to Atlantic City from Washington. Aw, man. That seems sad. It was on time ago or last month. Last week a to show lots and having to make all the stops at the greyhound sobbing at where you're at, Sarasota anybody get off and just waiting there. It's really a twelve hour bus ride, but it took them twenty hours man. That's that every part of a greyhound bus ride is the worst part, but that's the worst worst part is that it would take you a sixteen hour drive cross country from New Orleans to Chicago in a car actually takes low twenties like twenty to twenty four hours on a greyhound. Well, that is sad enough by itself. But now I want you to imagine what's on the bus that's going to Atlantic City. Like that's a special of greyhound to hell right there. I found it to be. I found my greyhound right to be unsafe foul smelling you inefficient up. Everything about it was the worst. There was one older man sitting there like a role ahead of me, eating chicken wings out of ziplock bag, and I can picture this like it was yesterday. I can smell it here. I can hear that same bus with all you brought them from home, I guess. Agreement, I was hungry. I had dietary restrictions. You're right l. Antic city go through, go via New Orleans. This guy is just eating chicken wings out our bagging just openly felt showing in between. I can't came from China's sitting in coach next to a guy who spent the whole trip eating some sort of fried fish thing that wasn't a fully cooked. I think this must have been some kind of like tough love thing for my parents to make me by greyhound ticket and ride back to Chicago rather than buy me a flight, which is fine. I mean, I regret their decision, but, but then they, you know, I would have thought coming up one way would have been good enough, but they they were going to stick to it. And I had to take the round trip back and we made it all the way to the end. We were in downtown New Orleans after saints game actually. So it was downtown traffic at that time on a Sunday afternoon. So this is like forty seven and a half hours into a forty, eight hour round trip. And we get in a standoff between a driver and a passenger. And there's been no security at any point getting on this thing. So you have no idea what anybody has. We are stopped in the middle of an intersection in downtown New Orleans. Having a driver passenger. Standoff. At the end of this forty eight hour journey. So you're not going to tell me what the sources thing was about the spotlight investigative team of ROY, Bellamy and Jason leisure sprung into action and talk to get that you want from that game? No, it's not the Monte Parker's aged. It's the lady that was in a collision with Kenny stills on a touchdown pass while the security lady while her back with said he was very nice to her as she floundered around like that. Look very painful football that he gave her. It didn't appear to help anything in the moment she might like later, but that didn't help her feel any wanted. No part of the football. Kenny stills was in pain trying to make things better by giving her a football and she had zero interest in Kenny stills as football, dangerous football when Kenny stills is in pain from hitting the security guard. Like what? Anyway, ROY and I got to the bottom of all of that. We got every answer you would ever want to know. We worked back channels and sources, and we collaborated ROY, Scott, a lot of great raw talent for journalism need. A little polishing. But once we had acquired all this information and then we're preparing to write the the expose, which in inevitably movie script officer, then ROY made one kind of once small error that derailed the entire thing. Glare, ROY at told one of ROY told our key source that don't worry all of this has been off the record for no reason. No reason. He just wouldn't say no reason. It sounded good sounded cool. That's a reason, gave them off the wreck. Why did you give them off the record when maybe they didn't want to go off the record? Listen, not all of us. Dan love retards or Jason leases out there. You know, sometimes sometimes people screw up, you know, as it works. Sorry. He was killing it until then though Dan, but you'll never know any of the details of it. Did you? Did you see a movie or something a little hurt journalist going off the record when someone wants to give them information can playing defense against yourself. Alf they felt safe around ROY. Apparently that really helped the situation that aside. It was a good team. So you guys were close to the store, you guys almost had it that close to head it owned it. Are we going to get the security guard on today? I hope you do. That'd be a funny segment to do just security guard that was hit by Kenny stills next, like, what can you guys get her? No and said, we're going out to New Jersey for Tim Legler's nine days. Video. I see this. I've seen cameras on his law on. It's very exciting to molecular is nine days. So how the weaned spook tackler bonanza it. 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Billy has just given me his mic which is just too much generosity. Do you have more than four shirts. You're making fun of me. Yeah, I do, but I do tend to recycle the same shirts for this show. This is one of my show shirts, say that ten times without getting an FCC violation kosher. Are you like your unpacking here? Like, you know we're on the air? Yeah, I do know ornament you guys are gonna. Pretend like, you know we're on the air. There's a microphone missing microphone. Just missing from here. We started the show and Cody didn't know that he needs a microphone in order to speak to America. Just sat down. I feel like this is a technical issue, so I don't wanna pointing fingers, but pointing at ROY right now. So you at the dolphins game while we get this all tackled out Europeans game on Sunday. I have been working my off by the way. I was that the heat home opener Saturday. I was at the dolphins game Sunday. I was there at Marlins park yesterday when they signed Victor, Victor, and Victor. I have been all been everywhere. Man. Did you? Did you sign a tweet, Greg, Greg? Cody I did. You're the first person to make that joke. Thank you. Might. Been at the time. So what are your before? The Marlins became the Miami, Miami Marlins. I'm here for the Greg Cody gets made fun of by his son show. It's happening, please bury. It's my fallback. 'cause like I didn't expect it to just turn into us. We were actually talking before the show at the idea of Greg, I go Kristie just wanted to the Cody show where it's just the two of you doing a show together. And I think you should try that for this segment me and Billy are going to sit out and just see how that goes. Okay, maybe we'll if we're good, maybe we'll get a podcast someday. I doubt you will be. What are you sprang into your nose? Is a nasal spray like, don't you do this before you leave the how? I do it all day long. I'm now addicted to their. You're gonna start brushing your teeth soon. It's flu tickets sewn, it's it's. It's carrying me through my turmoil. What is the Greg Cody scouting report on Victor. Victor Mesa. Have you at least watched YouTube videos of? Yeah, I have. Of course, the thing he's going to be good, but the but you know, if you're expecting, you know the Giancarlo Stanton, the home run hitter. You're going to be disappointed, but he's going to be real good. I'm curious about the younger bro. Who's the add on hick their Mesa. Junior, there's there's another brother to right or a friend. I'm not sure about that, but but but there's a Cuban pitcher who they really went hard after sandy somebody a guest on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I in an ideal world, they get Victor Victor in this pitcher, but you know, I think it was like a package deal. You know, you want Victor. Victor, you get Vic, junior as well, so but but it's a good deal. You know, after a year of Marlins fans doing nothing, but lamenting how they broke up the best outfield in baseball. They're moving forward. Now, you know, there are indications of of jeeter's grand plan and yesterday was good staff. They could have had Victor, Victor, Mesa, along with Christian yelich and then, yeah. Well, that's the Marlins pant. Yes. Point. Yeah. But you know what in retrospect, I think we can all justify why they had to get rid of Stanton. Yeah, and even those Oona and even Gordon, it's yellow ch- that really stinks. Agreed. Yeah, because he had such a favorable contract, they absolutely should have yellow ch real mutal and Victor Victor now as as the starting point moving forward. So I wanna talk some dolphins with you. So I was I was watching football on Sunday. The one of those nine thirty games popped up and it was the chargers titans. And I thought to myself, man, I don't wanna watch the titans and then it hit me. Are the. Dolphins, the titans to other teams like this does the Tennessee wakeup if the dolphins were playing the chargers would with the Tennessee fan, wake up and Tennessee and say, I don't wanna watch the dolphins. Yeah, yeah, I think so. I'm not sure if the dolphins are the titans. The dolphins nationally are irrelevant. I know they're foreign three, you know, they're, they're under periphery of playoff contention. They're going to have a real tough time at Houston. I mean, this is this is going to be a a real nightmare. I think for Miami, but you know, it's there. There are starla team. They have to everage quarterbacks. And one thing we're seeing with off wiler playing is that Oswald is a good NFL backup quarterback. So Stana hill, that's the problem. They have to pretty damn good number two quarterback. It has a backup. I think he's a really good backup on four weeks ago. We were saying this guy's above average, right? But but on the ballot. But. But the bigger picture, you know, looking at the the entirety of of seven years of this. I think what we see is that he's, he's, he's good. You know, he's averaged he's, he's a decent NFL quarterback. He's got a long career, but you know, seven years. He hasn't won anything. And this is an issue. What? What would our podcast be called? If we had a podcast, you never know. Wow, it's actually pretty good. Would it just I didn't mean that literally so I thought, oh, I thought you were saying that's what it could be called. No, he's like, I don't know. I know you never know with Greg Cody grant goes, I was talking to Chris before. The idea of things, and he said, one thing that you're interested in is interviewing inter interesting people about their interesting job, like not necessarily famous people, but interesting. Is this a true thing like are you just interested in other people's jobs? Yeah, very, it is a true thing. You know, I don't want to interview the people who everybody else wants to interview. I would rather interview the, you know, the Marlins batboy about what his life is like in the the strange things that he sees and hears and the in the clubhouse and in the dugout you know, to me the the people on the periphery of sports are fascinating. You know, I was at Gulfstream Park for a big horse race a year or two ago, and I got to go into the the silk room to to meet the guy who's in charge of organizing all the colorful jockey silk jackets that they wear vests rather, and. And you've never seen the, you know, just the explosion of color. That you see in that room and in all sports, there are fascinating jobs totally behind the scenes that nobody even thinks about. I think that's that interests me more than just talking to the same athlete who everybody else talks enough that you'd never know about. You never know. You never know. Exactly. All right. How would you feel about this? Greg? What if we opened up the caller line, seven, eight, six, four, five, six, four, eight, three, seven call in if you have an interesting job and then Greg can kind of pre interview for this podcast that may or may not ever happen. And then this way we can have people calling with all kinds of jobs we might not even know exists. What do you mean that in and out of sports or sports? I mean, unless you want to set the rules, it has to be sports specific. Oh, I think you know, I think anything goes man. All right. Seven, eight, six, four, five, six, four, three, seven. If you have an interesting job, you want Greg to interview you about. Did you guys see? Gregg, Popovich, and LeBron's interaction last night than anyone? See this, Greg, I did not, but they're, they're, that's a bromance right there. Games are on at ten thirty. So we a lot of you might have been asleep here in south Florida. That's what stinks. I'm realizing that we're not gonna get the seize many LeBron James, but I was watching the start of it and LeBron pop just did the stereotypical like love you, man, loving, man, love you. Man like they were just to mention cutting it up. That is a true. You know, when you think of sports bromance is, you know, not player player, but like coach player or executive player, you know, different generations. I might start with pop and LeBron I mean, they just have a real mutual admiration going. That is pretty remarkable. So I want to get to. I think we have Mike Ryan. Actually, Mike Ryan is in Bristol today. Mike, are you there him here? What I Mike? What are you doing there? I got a bunch of meetings high level. This podcast, so important? Yeah, they ought to Mickey for me. What do you think? Do you think? Do you never know? Has some legs? Yeah, I actually love the name. I've. I've found that there's so many podcast that every name is essentially taken so I have to investigate is whether or not you never know was actually, oh, vailable. I doubt it. Everything's taken wow, but ours would be. Why is that help that does help. You never know also doesn't help that we've talked about it now and people are probably going after, well, Penton pending, you know. So do you guys Billy what's up? We have interesting developments. All right, right now on hold, we have an exterminator a law clerk and someone that hangs drywall any of those interests you right now, Greg? Yeah. The exterminator does for all right Royal line one. You're on with Greg, hey, how you doing? Good. Good. What what kind of exterminating do you do? I do mostly commercial work. So I mean anything from roaches rats. We awesome calls raccoons. Wow, so so you know, I'm a guy who's had a rat problem, so you know, but I'm a residential. I'm not a commercial, but if you did residential work, you would like come into my attic and identify an extra exterminate and remove right generally what they do. Text in when when you were having your issue, I told you guys out to come by and help you out. Even though you're commercial only. Way do kind of residential every once in a while. Okay. Now let me ask you is, do you are you into termites or. No, I do German inspections. We have a whole crew that comes on, does it? So one of my stops has it. I can come out and identified that's like, especially right. Yeah, yeah. So when you when you have to tent whole building you sublet that, or do you have a warehouse with tents. Oh, we used to, but now we have a, we bought me bought out a smaller company, so we have, we have a full division that will come by and take care of before. So here's what I'm getting at ferreted out some information didn't. I. Yeah, I did. Is this what you envisioned in the podcast? Yeah, no, this is good stuff. I'm just getting started. So you know, you're, you have a competitor everywhere. It's called a can of bug spray. Like how do you? How does an exterminator survive when somebody like me? Or you know, I own a small office building. I can go out and you know, by dozen cans of raid and just spray it all over the place, what how do you compete with that. After a while, I guess you kind of get tired of going to every single unit every time somebody calls you. So that's how that usually works. And I'm pretty sure the stuff they sell stores aren't as strong as we have. Do you have any like crazy stories in terms of like rodents that you've come across? Like do you have a scary moment? You not scary? I wouldn't say scaring rodents. Tarot verify me. As I hate possums raccoons so that that would be terrifying for me. No nuts. I had a scary be story. I got stuck up on a lift a found out the hard way my suit had a small hole around the neck area and about ninety got into the faith part of it. That was not a fun morning. My God Christopher Christopher is a boy got bitten by a recluse spider and it was a real problem for us at the homestead. What do you know about spiders? Particularly the reckless that the reclusive leave a holding the size of golf ball. Wait a minute. Codeless show just interviewing an exterminator Cody show is. So you've been finally given this platform, you're working your entire media life for this is only the first segment. This is just a start, Dan, there's a shoe cobbler on a hotel. John drywall, I want I want to call her. I know offense exterminator your interesting, but cobblers have fascinated me my whole life. Got me there. Greg Cody interviews, the cobbler next wearing a suit isn't just for job interviews anymore. It's a lifestyle and HP the new line of men's suiting only at Saks. Fifth and HP is modern shooting designed for your active lifestyle. Elevate your shooting game with HP shop online to find a store near you at Saks Fifth dot com. Donlevatar. Ninety s shorts. Chris has some ninety s sure just wearing shorts. You have some are nineties and sure they're not cargoes explain why are they ninety seven made on like backpack material? I have to remind myself that I'm actually wearing pants because my two thousand eighteen is shorts are so thin up. Let me look at your shorts. Those thin as short shorts. Stugatz Philly. Got modern day shorts, right? Yeah, they're blue shorts quicksilver. They're like the ones that can get wet. He's got shorts. Your shorts here. Ninety s short-sea money aren't amphibious. Those sorts wet. It would take two hours. Actually everyone with modern shorts, dry thirty minutes out of here with your ninety s shorts. This is a show with stugatz on the ticket. It's the shipping container. We're talking to you on a Tuesday. We got things to get to. We got callers on the line. We're gonna talk some dolphins, but before we do that, Greg Cody had some closing remarks about an exterminator. Well, I would have gotten to one point which is the idea that you know roof rats come in different shapes and sizes, and one of the varieties of roof rats of come to learn is called the Norway rat, which struck me as weird because Norway, we think of as such a benign country, we don't even associated with rats. It's it's a Scandinavian country. It's a wintry country. And yet there's a ret breed named the Norway rat, which fascinates me, yeah, I'm glad we got to it. Yeah, thank you. You never know. You never know. He's the Norway wet rent. You know what I'm saying is that like nine hundred Finland? Why not? The fin roar. Roar father thinks his every thought is interesting, and he's always wrong. He's like, I have something else on externally. I'm like, oh, I guess we gotta get to. It would interest me generally interest others in if anybody out there is going, you know what? Why would they call it? Did you know there was a Norway? I didn't know that. Thanks Bill and relearning thing. Yeah, forget that though. No, you won't. Yeah. Oh, you never will. You mentioned that there was a cobbler on the line. You wanna tell the people your only story that involves a cobbler. I wanted only you're only sports story that involves a cobbler for you old timers out there. This is a young, Greg Cody trying to do his job at a time that Don Shula didn't have time for what would later become his senility, but what was mine or what yours. Gore's yours, you know? Well, Shula Don Shula's nickname shoes, you know, Shula shoes. And so in print I began, you know, I, I love a nickname for a nickname. So instead of referring to him and shoes, I began referring to him as the cobbler and as an honorarium, you know, as as a a show of respect, I made it capital t. a title, the cobbler and in one time after a dolphin practice Shula pulls me aside with his one of his low wage. She will always wave from his hip. You know, like I know nobody can see me right now, but you'll calls me over with a low hip level wave guy. Got a minute, and he's like this cobbler and he said, this combo bowl her, you can say, Bs and. And it was just one of the most embarrassing moments of my career was having to explain to the the all time winningest NFL coach why in the Miami Herald, he was being referred to as the cobbler and stammered and I tried to, well, you know, they call your shoes shoes, cobbler repairs, you and it just went downhill from there. He, he, he literally spun on his heel and walked away without saying anything, and it was never spoken of again, you're ahead of your time. Greg, because we over the past couple of years have been giving Marlins nicknames like we gave Justin board Boorda Bella crush room. We started calling Lewis Brinson Brin diesel things that no one actually calls them, yes, but here's the thing we've done it so much that I'm baseball reference. Like if you go to Louis bridges page, it says nicknamed Brindisi diesel. If you go to Justin, Boers pages, nickname, bordello, crush me made it. Things are probably not even aware of. So if there was like a football coach reference at the time, it probably would have said the cobbler well, yeah, I, I've always loved the nickname for. Or the nickname, you know, we're the pitcher's mound becomes the hill. The hill becomes the bump. You know, this is always interested me. It's not interesting. Well, luckily guys, Henry is a cobbler and he's on the line. If you want to talk to high end, we'll Henry how you doing. Hello? Hello. How are you? Well, your profession interests may because is it a dying profession, white Franklin. It is. It is any profession I'm sold out on my own business. That's that's great. And are you wearing a picture you wearing a big heavy leather apron. He works in all. No, you don't wear having apron? Not only. Not only have you. In Honey rumble, like like, how do you call in two thousand eighteen. I called on television eighteen or traditional screws traditional shoes. You can always repair them meaning high end shoes. That's what I try to work with. Now, what what about the? He'll the that wears down though. Here's you wear down. You replace them not know how to explain it to you. You gotta come see me work. Henry. I have a question. You said you're in your thirties, which seems young for cobblers is a family business that inherits is. Did you learn this where you're an apprentice to another cobbler question. Yes, this is a family business. We have three stores. We have one in mine wakes one in Brickell on one of the. What's the name of the stores? So people can support this interview of the cobbler? Yeah. All right. Thank you. I actually my sort of the Miami lakes, Miami lakes shoe service. Actually. You're talking about Shula in the hotel around here. I'm pretty sure it is. Do you still take on apprentices? I would like to, but it's difficult, not people. People don't wanna putting time into learning this crafts it. It is very difficult. I haven't Instagram page. If you guys want to take a look at it, what is that. It's m. l. underscore shrimp service. Now I don't wanna volunteer anyone, but you would you maybe take on Greg for a day and give him an apprenticeship as a shoe? Cobbler. Oh, yeah, for sure. I think I could do that. I'm not real confident, but I believe I could. That's great. Come on now. Oh, I can shine a shoe. But when it comes to the tacking the nail, they actual win the rubber hits the road. And I actually have to get down to shoe repair, you know, anybody can shine a shoe, you know, I can tie not with the best of them, but in terms of doing repair, that's intimidating to me because the shoe really is the foundation, literally and figuratively are more put Ken Cody tie tie a knot like nobody's business or tie targeting as well as anybody shoe cobbler, someone who's shine shoes on its own fixer of shoes right. Wow. So what are the main shoe person still on the line other than like enough advertising for all stuff. Like why is this person? You know what? Yes, come on. Now, how I already did help you out. I'm trying to help the rest of the audience out by producing good radio. Like I'm not here for the cobbler business. This is you never know. That's not why they built this studio. So we could interview cobbler who else is interviewing cobblers. Exactly. And up. Next, we have a manual typewriter repairman. Billy Bill. Is there anyone else on the line? Oh, yeah, Greg. Thank you. By the way, Henry the shoe cobbler, we have a law clerk. We have drywall, someone hangs dry and Greg don't get too excited. Let's have a garbage may God. Yes. In some sports here real fast. The defunct devante Parker thing. What is like? Explain this story to me if he's if he's really healthy like his attorney alike. Devante Parker agents says, if devante is healthy, why doesn't gas just come out and say, look, this guy's not good enough to be one of my starting foresee vers right now. Like, why is there a disconnect? Why like is gay saying he's injured if he's not injured. Yeah, you know, part of the NFL culture and the coaching culture is that you want guys, you can rely on and you know the the dolphins had a pretty good thing going with Albert Wilson Zakeem grant speed-merchants, reliable slot guy. Danny amendola. They're, they're using the tight end more than they have a derby when he's healthy in koseki the the draft pick. In so devante Parker unreliable. Devante Parker, just sort of got squeezed out and had to earn his way back into playing time. You know, he's not the chosen one just because he was the first round draft pick devante Parker, largely through injuries has been a monumental disappointment in in if you wanted to call him a draft bust. I don't think people would argue with you that vehemently and so for his agent to get all up in arms, you know what agent your your player hasn't done very much in his NFL career hasn't been very healthy in his NFL career and the idea that he might be inactive for a game when totally healthy shouldn't shock anybody and and demonic Parker needs to earn what he gets with the dolphins right now. And you know, I totally back Adam gates in this issue. I'm just confused why he feels the need to like gas is allowed to have the opinion that Parker's just not. Won't. Even though this week he probably will be because of all the injuries they've had to receiver. So if he's healthy, they probably will play him this week. Yeah, but in weeks pass when they've had healthy receivers, gases just said, look, whether it's because of injury or just because we have better guys. He's not in my, I'm not dressing it right. He's allowed to just say that. But why is there a disconnect where gases, like he's injured and agents like, oh, no, he's not like, yeah, if he's not injured, then gay should just be like, he's not. He's not in right. Well, Parker obviously is frustrated in the agent is publicly frustrated on Parker's behalf. But again, he has to earn his playing time. And what coaches hate is, you know, the guy who's unreliable through the week and doesn't practice Wednesday and in his limited Thursday and in doesn't practice fry. And then all of a sudden he's ready on. Yeah, that's, you know, I think there's an entitlement going on with the Parker camp because he was a hydra almost a top ten pick. I think he was what number fourteen. And he hasn't done anything and he, you know, he, he just needs to reestablish himself somewhere else. If if not here, and it's going to be tough to do it here after his agent just to go blow torch. Everything's crazy that Parker is a first round pick for us, and they were talking earlier in the year if he was traded before, like a fifth or sixth rounder. But Amari Cooper who is a first round pick just got traded for first rounder. Yeah. Well, I mean, the Cowboys really overspent for Mario Cooper. You know, I, I give Gruden credit man. He's stockpiling finally made a good move first round drip. Yeah. I mean, if you get a first round draft pick for Amari Cooper, I think that's extraordinarily, you know, I think the dolphins would love it. If they could get a third round pick for Parker in might take a fourth. You know, a first round pick for Amari Cooper is is just a steel. Yeah. I mean, he's he. He had a couple of seasons. I mean, I know the last year, so he hasn't been that. But right. I can see where the Cowboys can see the potential. Well, the combos are desperate. For a Goto wide receiver that's for sure. And the Cowboys would have been a great landing spot for devante Parker and they could have had Parker for much less than they got Cooper for all right, coming up. Next, we'll talk more sports and Greg Cody will interview random people. If you're a smoker, you know, switching isn't easy. You've tried vapes Andy, six. They just didn't deliver the satisfaction you expected. But jewel is different. It's not an e cigarette. It's vapor product that actually satisfies plus jewelers simple to use and there's no cigarette ash? No lingering odor as a smoker. You expect a certain nicotine experienced right jewel delivers give jewelry. Try check o. j. u. l. dot com. Slash sports switch and be satisfied. Yes, you can't do both warning this product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical donlevatar stugatz remembered today that seven ninety the original incarnation. One of the options was seven ninety the shark. Yep. Was the ticket, the ball, the shark at any of the wave seven ninety. Two wave was also another option. I think one of four, three, the squid was an option stugatz. I mean, think about that seven ninety, the octopus. Rocking you're pulling us. This is our show with the stugatz on the ticket. I would like to know Dan what it feels like to sit in Billy seat. It's discussed. Gusting workspace in the history of workspaces. I've got. Why did you not throw away this empty. Now that I just say right now, the applesauce eight right now that is not fair, but you got like a bunch of happy things who keeps peanut butter next to their flipflop on. That's important. There's peanut butter and there's jelly there just in case we have sandwiches. It used to be in the middle thing. That's a communal thing. Anyone can have it if they want. You've got bags of open mini doughnuts. Yeah, that's breakfast. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's not a communal thing. That's a. That's a me on to thrive. Things that you say describe a lot of that is important stuff. This looks like your messy closet at home closet of a teenager with occasional food involved. I'm surprised Dan can talk with those mini donuts in his mouth. I don't think that's fair. I mean, there's I find me something there that you think is not essential. I would argue that everything there is essential and by the way I'm gonna go ahead, say Cousy which I then pull out and it has little sticks of meat sticks by gerbils. It's baby food. Yeah, gerbers report it. If I need, you know, look a little little quick pro. What are United States? Four that was sent to us, so I kept it. I mean, you never know when you're gonna need to keep drink a little sock. Puppets these flip flops, so it's flipflops are actually important. I'm glad that you asked about that. Those are my old ones. I left them here because some days Dan, we don't have the luxury parking wrote behind the studio. We have to walk, you know, near mile sometimes maybe two miles if there's no parking. And so. Rub here. I very, very poor means keep going. It's it's, it's Walgreens under their essentials. I haven't heard anything. There's a single pop tart under here. How long is that popped up? And there's is there. But it's is it open. It's open. Okay. Yeah, that that could go. I didn't know that. That's probably that's not essential the moldy. There's an open chewy, dip as well and other chewy dip. It's got a bite out of it. That's not mine. I don't know who's that? That's another thing I left yesterday, and I'm going to argue that some of that mess is not even mine because I've noticed that when I leave or even when I don't leave, people just start piling their own crap there. And then he gets put on me because they know that I've got an offend any box of rice. Crispy began to that had six on it before I left. And I said, nobody my Rice Krispies is that really empty that better not be empty. You guys ate all my rice. Crispy, I said, don't eat those rights. Didn't even have one. Oh, did you look at ROY? Look. Rice Krispies. You guys aim, I Rice Krispies. Believable, asked a security guard. I honestly didn't have any of them. You know what happens? I'm just going to say this every time Allison leaves minutes after she leaves. ROY goes there and he snacks over there and then you starts eating her food. He does so ROY. You're the Cobra I eat you, right? So upset, crispy, ROY things. Every food in this studio is communal. I can't believe you guys eight. I had one of those Rice Krispies and I left it there. And then what are you blabbermouth said, oh, what do you have Rice Krispies? And they're now they're going to eat the Rice Krispies because it had a secret stash their, you ate all my rice, crispy. This is unbelievable. You can't even keep secrets. Well, nice, secret stash. It was a secret, but one of them side, the blabbermouth told the whole riveting. Clearly it wasn't a secret was on open than had six in it, and now it's empty because there's a blabbermouth amongst us, Bruce. Call Disney global security like Stu gods, Olen sandwich. I wish you could have varied that that was so fun does my favorite. That's one of the few things that we aren't able to hear that. I really wish because I have a show secret am I allowed to tell this show secret? Am I into deep day you mind? If I say the show secret, say, can even hear me. I don't think you can hear me. He took his headphones off. Hold on a second. He's walking back to the microphone. Dan Le Batard put down his coffee. He's sitting on my chair. Really? You're the first one to use the word blabbermouth since Ralph kramden and the honeymooners. I know I did that. Yeah, I guess so the stugatz call to global security that we didn't air is not one of the only things that we've recorded that we could near. We in the height of what was her name. The none that's got was always gene. Sisters got in contact with sister. Jeanne had a call with sister gene, and we couldn't air it. I was, but just know that he talked to sister Jean for like a nice twenty minutes as bad as I've ever felt all my guy, it was the worst. It was the worst profanity laced interview that's way. Billy was your experience like in New Jersey with Lorenzo man? Lorenzo's something. He's so nice. He means well, but he's he's so much. And there was so much time that he was wasting like we went out the night before to Tim McGuire house to shoot things before we went there. Tim Allegra was watching the game. He was home. So we were going to go there to get, you know, video of the stuff in action at night because that's when it looked the best. I don't know if it actually you're there. It was good. Okay, cool. Yeah, yes. So before we did that, we had some time where it was still daylight out and we were gonna go shopping to buy Tim, the prop for his the prop that broke as soon as you guys gifted it to him. Can I tell you another show secret, just stay focused on this one and then go onto your show secret. Well, the show I'll tell you the show great. As soon as we took it out the I fell off and Lorenzo like shoot two pieces of gum and presented him a product that was held together with a piece of gum. It was discussed. The producer I discussed, it's interesting coming from you because I'm seated at your desk right now and there is clearly. A paper towel that you've blown your nose into just sitting on your console, but if you've only used it once and I'm gonna throw it away yet they can use it again. Yeah. So before we went to get that prop, we went to spirit, oh, the prop I know that I veer off and I get a nice start, distracting myself. That prop this is just along the same lines. We were at spirit probably for like two hours just to buy that eagle and whatever the hell. He was aware that that eagle was awesome. Go on, but he waste so much time. Once we got the the that they hear me give him at the most inefficient person I've ever met in my life. You haven't heard what he did. So we go. We're looking at the Halloween section for like twenty minutes. We finally pick out the thing that we're going to get him. We go to pay and he goes, hold on a second. I'm going to look to see if I can price match this and he's at the register for like fifteen minutes has already scan the item and he's just searching on his phone to see if he can find a cheaper somewhere else. He asked them like three. Oh, did you guys price-match this place you price that like Lorenzo. Just pay for the thing like, please just pay for the thing. You clearly aren't getting that. They're not gonna price match you on this. He's giving them these obscure stores that why would anyone price-match these stores? We were there like fifteen minutes. I've got out of the line with him, went to another line, but a Snickers bought a coke at rank. It eight, the Snickers then went back and he was still looking to price check. And then for some reason while I'm holding my bag of things because obviously I travel with a bag of things while I'm holding my bag of things Lorenzo for some reason, can't even carry this massive buck. So I'm getting everything and I think all he was holding was a receipt. Do you have a line behind him. That's a good question. He did not have a line behind him, but it was still ridiculous how much time. And then I looked at my Lorenzo. The sun is going down. We were supposed to get at his house before it was dark out so we could plan out what we're going to do like we needed to see these things would know when we're going to spend sounds like just about the most Lorenzo thing I've ever heard it all worked out. I think in the end, you know, as we put you on last night, s SBP nominated you as the best thing he saw all day? Not me from like, yeah. You mean you in a bald eagle costume? Yes. You made s VP's best thing. It was like ninety seconds. The whole thing was all over. It was right after Monday night football. I made it. I'm like, is that if I had like a career accomplishment, I think that's like being on sportscenter. Top ten? Yeah, redo the resume buddy. I think it would be that I'm not even being sarcastic. That's really cool. Oh, outside the lines. One time used my voice explaining that stupid string chart that we had set up for what I remember. What was the Marlins? It was the Marlins fishy account in Britain wasn't a no. I think it was the. A second. No, it was the who is it was a Colangelo thing. Remember the seventy Sixers thing. So they were using it as if this was like a real thing that we had set up. I think those the disembodied voice that's just making any supposed to go to Mike and then you started making fun of. We were going to mind. I've been here for forty five minutes and I've said, what's going on in Bristol? Mike, is it cold? It is very cold out here. Let's not do the thing where you asked me how the weather is though. There's a lot of people here met, Trey, wingo goal each and I check it out. I didn't confront them about stealing all are bits. I should go back and challenge them. How are they doing that? The trae say, hi, trae is constantly bathed in white light. Wow. It's an his contract. There's actually a person that holds up a white light. What angle from the front or above? How is he glowing? Is it a glow from below I, it's a celestial glow coming from above Amera, and usually that means just more shadows and wrinkles on the face. But I don't know. It seems to be a three sixty celestial glow around him. The person that holds up that white light is doing really good job. I am Trey. Wingo does not have wrinkles. No, no, no. And I was taken aback at how nice they were on the poke and years. Put that on the poll will Trey wingo ever wrinkle. I'm sorry to interrupt you while you're actually in the polls here or everything. You don't put it on the poll. I hung out with wolf Kaine last night we watch Monday night football. Did you go up early just to hang out with willgame. No, I came here early because the the flights here are a disaster. I didn't come up early. I got to my hotel at like nine o'clock at night and the DoubleTree in bristles the most happening place in. All of bristles there who's there? Oh my God. I love the double trio went there once and it was a Hoosier man you? Yeah, we just saw Hasselbeck that day or watching. I, I went there. I told you guys, right? I went there and the Colorado football coach was in the lobby, and he was looking at me the same way I was looking at him, which is, I know you're somebody, but I don't know who you are and he's like, you're like the Colorado football coach of ESPN and I'm like, yeah, I'm pretty much that should be Jimmy v. auction item next year. Just stay at the DoubleTree for two nights, but you have to stay in the lobby and just people watch. I feel like people would pay a ton of money just to see who's in and out of that DoubleTree would. And one time I went to the DoubleTree and I worked out next the PJ cordless, it was a real thrill wou. What was PJ doing elliptical, wow, sweating. He's an elliptic guy beard and not to change the subject. But my dad is he just recently got into Facebook and he thinks it's a smart idea to share with me. Everything is friends post on Facebook, and he shared with me something. Greg Cody you at the Victor Victor in Victor, Mesa, junior press conference. I wasn't too familiar with who their father was victims. Victor Messa the was a longtime manager of the Cuban national team, and I don't know if this is Facebook fake news, but there are some Miami Cubans had a really upset by this because Victor Mesa because he was a longtime manager was apparently a supporter of that regime. Right? How are they navigating this whole situation with the father and. Media access going to be limited, or are they going to be put in a situation where they have to share their honest feelings about this current regime and the the previous regime that? Yeah, that's a. That's a good question. And one that's unique to Miami and Miami politics of his, you know, Victor Mesa was the the manager of the Cuban national team for years. He won a gold medal for Cuba. He's coached the Cuban WBZ world. Baseball team is recently as two thousand seventeen, I think. So it's been very re recently that the Mesa family has separated itself from Cuba and come to America in search of MLB money. So yeah, the they're going to have to navigate that. I think what they hope is that you know any controversy. There is dissipates because Victor Victor turns out to be the prospect that that everybody's dreaming, he might be, you know, and I don't know that it's a a huge controversy right now. You know, because it's not the sons in the middle of it, it's their father, you know? So I guess it's, it's just something we're going to have to navigate an and see how it plays out. I don't do Derek jeeter doesn't believe that it's a big issue right now. Greg, I after the workout, I heard people saying that Victor Victor looked like he was maybe a year way like he'd start in the minors. Was there any mention of that yesterday in the press conference? There wasn't a mentioned specifically, but didn't he'll say that he's going to start with spring training though, like with the? Oh, yeah, he is going to be invited to spring training the the Marlins people sort of think that he's gonna start in AA, but that he will be called up to the Marlins. That's pretty quickly. Yeah, where you wanted to be right? Yeah, Trump. Yeah, exactly. And, and the younger kid apparently just wowed people at at this showcase that the Marlins held out. Yeah. I mean, he because nobody knew about this seventeen year old kid, but he. Really impressed scouts at this October. Fifth thing that was held at Marlins park. And so everybody knew about Victor Victor, but Victor junior was the one who really established himself and became a player in in the Marlins minds at that showcase. Did they mention where he would start like going to start low a. or something I, I think he's got a way to go. Yeah, I think he's got a way to go. And even the thing about Victor, Victor is that he hasn't played in a season. You know, his last full season in Cuba was two thousand sixteen seventeen. So you know the the rust on him is is going to cause a delay to his joining the Marlins more than the talent level. I think. How do you feel the you never know debut show when I'm upset. I mean, we never got to the garbage man. We never got discipline you the the guy that hangs drywall. And then there was something else too that I wrote down. Remember going to go was we never wonder if that guy uses s best. Those leading Chinese drywall, probably not. I. I. I would hope that he doesn't, and I don't think he, he probably doesn't appreciate we share those. Yeah. People are in for a bad one with Cody today, man, he is a mess. What do you have to say about the hour that you just put together? It's been fantastic.

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The Fantasy Playoffs Are Here: Week 14 | The Dantasy Football Podcast

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The Fantasy Playoffs Are Here: Week 14 | The Dantasy Football Podcast

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Big League for me and you know we can use his right now to jump into the what's the week however it's almost the opposite because it did not make me go what it it made me go. I told all you really vindicated the devante Parker Tattoo. You've had on your forehead for the entire Martime tweeted like weeks. Devante Parker is good and I knew it and I said it last year and the year before that I love him. He's good. I think you actually tweeted on Sunday. Say That devante Parker is the best wide receiver in the NFL in the best offense in the NFL. Standby something along those lines. Yeah so yeah. Let's just dive right into right. Get into it. Go for your devante. Parker devante Parker diving into the victory. Lap Man. So yeah. Our man had like one hundred fifty yards in two touchdowns but more importantly bullshit touchdowns. It wasn't flukes if you watch the game. If you saw even just the highlights of all of his catches like he looks great. He's balling out. He's like burning people deep deep and underneath these Jukang people he's making like crazy leaping contested catches. He looks like a top receiver and he's been a top ten receiver and fantasy and in real football the ball in the second half of the season. He's the water three over the last four weeks. He's been the wide receiver seven cents a week four cheese. It's just starting to get me to think about next year with him and and like I don't know where he is go. cassie cemented himself in your guys his mind or is he still a little bit fluky. I think he's cemented himself as a like a like he has arrived. Arrived if you will because we've been talking about him for years like Oh it's going to be finally finally his year and then I think people finally gave up on this year gave up on him this year and then it finally happened so so credit to you for really believing him. Is this the latest arrival later arrival. I believe this is his fifth year. And he's tweets truly hyped. He was like the Perriman type hype. Where every single season it was finally going to happen and then year five? I feel like it's it's okay to give up. I think you're three. You can even probably start to give up any. He finally paid off how much the latest arrival is Ryan Tannehill and it is not a coincidence that Ryan Tannehill devante Parker were freed from Adam gases claws clause and then promptly both broken out in the year twenty nineteen unbelievable also devante. Parker was a feud over playing time with Adam Gates Parker's agent Adam Gates. Were just going at each other in the media for like an entire month last season. So hear me out the dolphins if they can't get to you should not draft after quarterback. Wait another year stick with fits bottom out again huge year for Devante Parker and then get the best back the year after that. You know the borough fan and I'd rather have to I think but yeah. Yeah Deka what made you go. What this week? Speaking of quarterbacks there's four new and I say that in quotations because because some of them are returned cortex starting right in time for the fantasy ploughs. We saw that this week drew. Lock Gardner Menchu Andy Dalton and duck. Hodges of the steelers and obviously with you know new quarterbacks fantasy football and real footballer both highly dependent on quarterback play whether it's your actual quarterback spot or or the guys that are around those quarterbacks can really affect your fantasy matchup and so each of these guys. I think is going to have a pretty big impact on the fantasy playoffs so I think I talk to me just wanted to go through each guy really quickly kind of talk about what the biggest takeaway from each guy is for drew lock. He came in first. Start coming off the IRR immediately threw two touchdowns accord sutton in the first quarter And that to me was kind of like the biggest takeaway the game. He only had eleven passing yards in the second half so he definitely tapered off as S. as the game went on. I think they kind of kept things really conservative for him offensively and all that but the fact that he was able to get sutton going and get him him involved and he was as Goto guide to me. That says sons fantasy value Should be static if not even better going forward so sentences just becoming a star Are and he had seventy four yards two touchdowns twenty four. PBR points. He's he is. I was just absolutely ridiculous. one-handed catch and and again he's he's Sutton has kind of thrived under all three of the team's quarterback Joe flacco Brandon Allen drew lock in. And so oh he's kind of quarterback proof and Masters Thunder subpar circumstances. And Give yourself a pat on the back to you because you said that he would thrive whether it was Drew Lock or braided Allan this week so I did not believe you. Would you said that the Galaxy Brain The Galaxy Brain logic actually paid off this week. If you listen to the the Friday show we talked about how nothing looks good for this week. Except for the fact that Sutton is awesome and it's absolutely paid off so to me drew lock. You know it's it. Looks like he's GonNa end up being a star for the rest of the season. They've got Houston Casey and Detroit on tap and the biggest takeaways. You don't necessarily have to start to lock in the playoffs playoffs. But I think you can feel good about Gordon going forward. I was very impressed by drew. Lock I don't think I thought about him once between Halloween and the week of Thanksgiving and then they were like we're gonNA activate drew lock of injured reserve and he looked fine. Yes impressive after missing. All the time that he did for a rookie. He looked better than I thought he would. Look I'll I'll be honest and you know obviously like you said have was not good but You know he's throwing the ball zip. He's being aggressive. And all that I liked what I saw at least from you know start number one and it gave me some confidence going forward for him Going back going back to the Jaguars. Garmon shoe mania is back. Foles was benched at halftime after an atrocious. First Half at three turnovers Seven fourteen for ninety three yards. They decided to go with the go back to he. He is and this was announce this morning. We were recording on Monday afternoon. That minhsiu is the starter again in Jacksonville. Kind of with the plan to be for him to finish the season. So unless he completely craters to who is the show for the rest of the season in theory And I just thought he energized the offense like when he came in they were immediately just crisper and better he was. He's he's got that you know pocket mobility that kind of allows them to work with some of the issues they have on the offensive line. You know that Game Dance Dance Revolution I do. That's how Gardner dementia like is in the pocket. He goes left right back centre. And it's I can't believe his movements while keeping his eyes down field for young player. It's the difference between him him and foles with like the pocket movement and making defenders Mrs like night and day. It's unbelievable how does that. Oh absolutely and and I WANNA be clear before I say this. I'm not comparing various. Drew brees but the way he stands and sort of subtly moves around in the pocket almost reminds me a little bit of breeze. There's a huge huge differences elsewhere but to me that was just one thing that Kinda understood out the way he kinda slides around keeps his balance. You know all that. There's there's an element of that that's why I think he's so much better for this. Jaguars offense waste bill right now. I think going forward it will provide a boost for both DJ charge. Dede Westbrook in theory. They have actually really good schedule. Coming up not necessarily this week so much. Watch going up against the chargers defense but in week fifteen and sixteen which is the semis and the final fantasy league their Ad Oakland at Atlanta. So are those two are very very good. Matchups for that offense So Yeah meant you could have some real huge effect kind of in the fantasy going for. I'm confident that he'll be a lot better than fault going forward. This is so great. It's also really satisfying. You know beginning of the season because you know you want everything to wrap back around at a story right and it's just so straight. I'm a big fan so big if satisfying stuff. Andy Dalton on the bengals comes back from being benched. It's fine. He's fine which was an improvement urban. He was completed twenty. Two of thirty seven passes two hundred and forty three yards a touchdown. Thirteen point three fantasy points. It was fine. Could've had three two passing touchdowns but CG's Zome intolerate for both drop touchdowns That was tough and then a field goal. On a Joe mixon rushing touchdown. Bengals beat the jets twenty two to six which continues the Andy Dalton quarterback purgatory where he is just not good enough that they cannot replace him shadow. Joe Bustle for that. One quarterback purgatory again strikes. I cannot believe that the battles of winning streak. I'm really excited. What'd you think adult? And what does he do for the rest of the bengals. Not that I want to think too much about the bengals right. I think the main thing is to takeaway from Dalton's return as the quarterback is. Sorry I should say is that tighter. Boyd's fantasy value comes back to life I mean he. He was kind of forgotten man and for a few weeks ceremony. I think he got like one target and one game a couple of weeks ago But he's back to being the go to guy in that offense at least pending. Aj Green's return if he ever comes back in coming back Josh John Ross could kinda shake things up logo. I think overall Tyler Boyd is the number one guy and that offense going forward. He's GonNa probably be running out a slot which is where he's most comfortable and most effective as fantasy player Ten targets this week five catches fifty nine yards in touchdown. And if you go back two weeks one eight when Dalton was the starter for the bengals before they benched him for Ryan Finley following their weeknight by Boyd was quietly the wide receiver. Sixteen so I think this returns boy to Kinda that low end wide receiver to area and you can go ahead and start him with confidence at least this week and in week sixteen going up against New England and week fifteen is a definitely a tough match of. I'm not gonNA expect the Bengals to generate a whole lot of offense and that game so you might want to avoid him now on in. But against Cleveland and Miami I think that makes boyd much more for me. More confident starting him going forward and then lasts up. We get sound effect for Duck. Hodges I just cricket liquor Quack Quack Let's see I wanNA hear. I WanNa hear quit Craig. What would you think duck? Hodges because my my impression overall was that he is clear upgrade over Mason Rudolph. Would you agree with that. Definitely I I just think he's mobile. Mason Rudolph is like a big statue in the pocket and he one he also feels just less accurate than dodgers also Takashi away better name and we all know my name. He's kind of like Gardner minhsiu light a little bit. He's aggressive. He's more mobile. Will He. Kinda just like our dimensions that guy. But he's Kinda just instills life. He kind of invigorates the offense just a little total totally kills way more animals and puts it on instagram. That's neither here nor there. You See James Washington and his hunting trip or that. They bonded over this week. Their best friends. They went on a hunting trip. Bothell Washington Mason Rudolph Else College. Buddy just took his friend. It's like that's really tough. It's really sad but Doug Mason Rudolph Guy you're not supposed to worry about. Also Mike Tomlin Omlund look myles. Garrett tried to hit where it didn't hit Mason Rudolph with helmet but Mike Tomlin Mason Rudolph under the bus. When did you see last week when he was like? He won't kill US or dodges won't yes. Yeah the benched Basov last week and Mike Tomlin's like well duck. I just did kill us us over and over. I thought that was unbelievable. Thomas said Yeah tough love. That's pretty final. Doesn't it sound final to you. Not He threw four picks in the browns game and then obviously Asli. Everything was overshadowed by the final eight seconds but the fifty nine minutes and fifty two seconds Mason. Rudolph was awful in that game and he was off against dodges. It's more like you just couldn't be worse to be quite it. I don't think I don't know if I like. Duck Hodges is destined to be a future star in the NFL. But I think he's more decisive and aggressive with the football like Rudolph Rudolph was just a dump off machine it kind of really neutered. The the steelers passing offense for the most part and so to me. This is big for James Washington particular James Washington in particular just because you know their best friends now and they go on hunting trips together and Washington is good deep threat and and hodges is shown the willingness to kind of go to him and so he's been Washington has been heating up of late. Getting Juju back will be interesting because Smith Schuster do back. You know sometime soon in that could shake things up up but to me. Washington is the clear kind of like go-to guy in this offense Intel. Juju comes back and think hodges as a good chemistry with them. And that's going to be big next up the sears have Arizona which is a great match up Buffalo which is not a great match up for them as good defendant in week. Sixteen fantasy finals A New York jets which looks like a pretty good match. So you know sealers could be pretty big impact down the stretch love it. Also Jamal Adams safety for the jets sprained ankle. This week is out and we'll see if jets players start missing more those games down the stretch case mood in the locker rooms not so great for. It's neither here nor there but they have to fire as right I would. They're not going to man anyways. This is off topic. Let's move let's good on next next next topic. Oh next man up. Let's go through some introduced in the weekend. Greg Olsen tight end for the Panthers Greg Olsen Suffer Concussion and second half Panthers Twenty nine to twenty one loss to Washington. Washington veterans is in the concussion protocol. And if he can't play next. Weekend's the Falcons is backups. In Thomas Thomas has been pretty solid a Filling in for Olsen the last couple of years it twenty four yards on four catches in Relief Olsen last week. Deka would you add in Thomas if you're tied ended. Yeah I would would if you know especially if you have Olsen just kind of figure out what's going on Olsen could come back next week we don't really know But last year Thomas came on strong wrong late in the season he got twenty five passes for two hundred forty six yards and two touchdowns a week twelve through sixteen. And you know if he's if he comes in and relief of Olsen he could be a big a big part of that offense he could be a pretty big focal point on offense. Obviously he hasn't done anything with Olson in the lab which has been kind of a surprise the season I think a lot of people were Kinda Open Open. He would be a bigger part of the offense But if Olsen Mrs Time I think Thomas is definitely starvation. So he's kind of a speculative add to see how Olsen then progresses this week goes through the concussion protocol and so Yet check him out on the waiver. Wire if you have an extra spot on your on your yeah and it's not just Olsen. That surprises the panthers offense fence that you can't keep track of they lose to Washington. They only dropped twenty one on them a week. After almost beat the New Orleans saints and that's a week after they scored three points against the Falcons ten. That was a week after they came. Half of an inch of Christian. McCaffrey was tying the game against the packers. So you've got yeah. I mean they dropped thirty in the titans. Almost beat the packers crushed. By the Falcons almost beat the saints lose to Washington which was their only real win of the season because Washington beat the dolphins on a play where the dolphins didn't convert a two two point conversion. So it's just the panthers as a whole under this kyle. Allen is just becoming a kind of just roller coaster. So that's really the right but on the weeks that it's defined the panthers. Anticipation the Falcons again this week. So we'll see. But the whole panthers experience this bumpy running back Caleb lodged for the Dolphins Balaj was carted off the field in the first half with a leg. Injury did not return Replaced by Patrick layered who has taken on a cult like status in certain quarters and apple a layer aired season. Yeah he looked gun with. He's fine he's kind of Patrick. Leonard carried the ball ten times for five yards rousing truly Balaj Asia numbers. There and I liked his hands can have good hands rent good. I'm GonNa Kill Them. Bless has its laird had yes so ten ten carries five yards. He scored a touchdown though also caught four passes for forty three yards which dolphins beat the eagles. Thirty seven thirty one. Good Light God rain for Philadelphia Elvia. Yeah everything's gloomy in Philly. Miles Gaskin is also running back the carve out more early down work but decay. What do you really want? Patrick layered on your team. What he would which I mean? Ideally you're not starting Patrick Laird in your fantasy playoffs however if you have an injury situation or you really need to plug something into your flex pot. NPR Appear League laird could be worth. Look I mean he's got double digit points in two of the last three weeks. He's probably GONNA be the dolphins number one going forward if Balaj is out and you know he's been reliable. I guess is the word you could say In the passing game. He's been guy that they can use dump off situations and PBR leagues. I mean he's going to be able to rack up four five catches in a game that that's a good kind of four for him so I'm not excited about layered but but he's going to get the volume he's GonNa be the passing game guy in that offense and so if you're desperate at flex pod that's that's a guy he can definitely pick up. This week are running back. Terrell Williams on the Kansas City chiefs Durell Liam suffered a non contact injury. The team called it. A hamstring. Injury did not return. To the Game Damian Williams was already out with a rib injury so it was just a Rela Shawn McCoy endure and Thomson. Then Durrell went out and Shawn McCoy. had five carries ten yards and a touchdown Darwin Thomson had eleven carries for forty four yards and a touchdown picked up the slack in the Kansas City. Backfield on the back into the game mostly in the fourth quarter decay. Yeah would you add. Darwin Thomson Sooner Dwell. What do you WanNa do with the chiefs back field? That's been confounding the whole year. Yeah I so I'm saying it's like laird. Like if you have a need and you have I have a question mark at your flex spot. daren Thompson is an interesting speculative. Add to me this week. I think he definitely should be sort of high on the priority list but at the same time time. Don't expect a lot you know because we still don't know exactly what's going on with injury situation is Damian Williams GonNa be coming back. Would they turn to Leshan McCoy next to be counted the lead guy. We've seen him on load management over the last few weeks. We don't exactly know what's going on with that Darren Thompson has looked good in the limited amount of action that he's gone but he's a rookie. Six rounders so you can't really expect a ton from in bottom line so to me. I'm like I'm picking up Thompson just if these injuries progress a- and keep going and he's going to be the starter in that backfield and I think we'll learn more about kind of his role later in this week But you gotTA claim him now. How if you're waivers are Tuesday night or whatever you gotta get in there and Kinda just hold onto him and see what happens because you know right now? There's just not enough information with what's going on with Daming Wind Leshan McCoy I'm dubious about Darwin's prospects is like getting most of the Kansas City snaps. Him having a good story like it's Nice. It's he learned on Sunday morning. That it's high school co-coach pass away after complications from less and then he goes out had his best game of his pro career. So far eight his first touchdown. So that's nice and like I think he's got it Kinda record seems but he ended the game with eight touches on twenty one offensive snaps so he's never had more than five snaps in a single game until this week right and then Tom says they. It didn't even show up in the box score until the third quarter when he had a holding penalty. That nullified a thirty two yard pass entering the season. Andy Reid kind of alluded to the reason he Darwin and Thompson was not getting playing. Time was the little things that like pass blocking which. I don't know if you noticed Patrick. Mahomes had an ankle year. They kind of need somebody who can pass block effectively. So you doc. ID is getting a holding penalty when that was the concern. He didn't get a care until the fourth quarter and all eleven of his touches came on one drive. They all came in the Kansas City. Final drive and then the touchdown came when the raiders at ten men on the field for the touchdown. She's she's been rotating backs on drives all year and sometimes it's a three and out and sometimes it's like a fourteen play drive drive. That leads to a touchdown. I think that this might have just been they. Were dominating the raiders. They were up thirty one. Nothing or something the raiders. I think both teams were Kinda like trying to get off the field. The chiefs ran it down the throat. But I don't think that indicates future playing time as much as the raiders got crushed right. I just think that he was on. He was the running back on the drive for that On the field for that drive and if someone else they also could escort so I'm not convinced Darn Thompson is going to be the guy and I don't think I would shell out for them in a waivers on unless they really needed a running back badly right. That's fair and you know what their matchup this week the Patriots. It's tough so like there's a lot of variables there that kind of make me. I'm I'm with you. I'm a little bit dubious about his overall value. I'm still like if you have a sponsor roster like go forward and see how things kind of shake out during the during the week because he has shown explosiveness and the preseason and very limited action. So you know if he's a starter that offense. That's that's definitely intrigued. She's running backs are so damned if they do damned if they don't don't this. Yeah this weekend because the Sean McCoy's been benched multiple times. Because he fumbles. That's a disaster. Against the Patriots. Defense and Darwin thompsons had issues that blitz pickups apps so God forbid like the Patriots Cover Zero so i. That's such a nightmare for eighty redemptive. Decide who's going to be on the field for either one of those things I will say it would be fun to see Darwin Thompson matched up against some of the Patriots. Big linebackers 'cause I think he could exploit them in the passing game but Yeah I doubt that he's he's GonNa have a huge huge role in this game. I hear the Dogs Bark Yeah. My dog is barking. Sorry about that. That's all right. What's his name it's a she it's Lola? She's he's probably barking at the mailman. Because that's what she does. Oh your dog actually parks at the mailman for those just like a like a shed com. Yeah she gets her hackles up she gets don't match she's very very nice. She's the sweetest dog you'd imagine but she's got kind of a big scary park. Just don't bring mail to decays. Yeah so anyway. Sorry about that we can. We can move on beautiful well before we move on. Let's take a quick break to talk about fan. Duel the ringer. NFL show's brought to you by vandals. sportsbook now available in New Jersey Pennsylvania West Virginia and Indiana Federal. sportsbook wants to know what you bet. If you knew you could not lose. 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It was really fun to watch However he did everything on ten carries which is probably not got you know translatable going forward? He's going to need more volume to kind of get into that twenty plus point PR range. I would think Peterson actually out carried. William Thirteen to ten out snapped him. Twenty three to twenty so adrian. Peterson is still ahead of them. I guess in that offense Even though guy says looked awesome and I think he's starting to work his way into the offense gradually but I think overall I don't WanNA expect. I don't think we should expect what we saw this last week. Every week for guys yards per carry. You don't think you'll see that. Thank you that yes tha- put any of that way I think that's fair to say He does get a super soft appointed pointed this week in the packers who've been terrible versus opposing running backs this season giving up to six months fantasy points per game and PR and fifth most standards so definitely a really good match up this week and if they start to expand his usage he could certainly break out again. But I'm very leery about his volume overall. I think that he's still just a lower to slash flex type play Until he takes over in a bigger role for the REDSKINS. Because I mean the redskins offense has just been pretty hit or miss also and so you know I just a little bit leery about that volume and the other issues. That Washington was in a position to bleed the clock which they've been in how how many times this year. What are the worst teams in the League? Three nine so there's not many opportunities for them to be like. Oh we believe this clock so we can like escape it this lead. So that's I think the bigger issue is how many times can be running into. They really feel that Geis's the guy they want in the backfield on passing downs having said that really fantastic skill set up Bob. He's also been runner. Really Kinda sees the chessboard. It's going to be able to understand that and process that in the moments very hard and underrated equality and also great for someone who's not play that many. NFL Games so props years guys. Love guys I I think people who have him in dynasty are probably just soaring right about now because he he looked awesome. I think his future is definitely bright coming off that injury. He looks like he's back to how he was in college. So that's really fun to watch wonderful someone who who had a big game that I do not think it's going to happen again. The rams offense are they back rams trounced Arizona thirty four to seven Charikov hurt cuff. Thirty two completions on forty three attempts for four hundred twenty four yards in two touchdowns number four quarterback of the week and fantasy. He had three hundred twenty three passing yards boards at halftime. Yeah could've probably challenge like the single game passing yards record of the rams. Didn't start running then. Eventually put Blake Bortles in up like thirty four to nothing. At at that Point Jared Goff had twenty five fantasy points on Sunday in the entire month of November. He had thirteen point three find. Cod Awed. So Jared Goff and then there's Robert Woods who had nineteen targets so low for thirteen catches on one hundred seventy two yards the number number two wide receiver and PBR. Thirty point two points Robert Woodson one hundred thirty one yards after the catch which is the second most by any player two thousand nineteen gene and the second most by a ram thirteen years. A hundred and thirty one yards after the catch is the rams offense back decay. It's rhetorical Komo. Yeah I know I was GONNA say 'cause we have this dockery Dauphin. He Danny rights no with a period. They're not just pull the people behind the curtain. You got to preserve some magic but seriously the cardinals. Offense allows the most fantasy points to opposing quarterbacks in the League they have allowed the most passing touchdowns thirty one. They've allowed the most passing yards per game. Three hundred twenty five passing yards per game is the average against the cardinals. The next closest team the second worst is the Tampa Bay buccaneers. They're three hundred yards per game. There is a full point per game fantasy quarter. That's twenty five yards. That's a point per game between the thirty second thirty. I pass defenses. That is incredible also Arizona leads the League and Miss Tackles. They've exactly one hundred tackles this year. No wonder Robert Woods Bobby. Trees as he's known here kept shaking them for all. These miss tackles the rams next. Three Games seahawks cowboys. Forty niners. That is progressively better defense after better defense go into the fantasy playoffs. I do not like the rams to be able to keep any of this up. I would rather look at the cardinals next three opponents. Who are the steelers in week? Fourteen the Brown fifteen silks in week. Sixteen Nick Chub and the browns and week fifteen cream hunt those are two of the highest rated players in pro football focus is elusive rating which is a fancy way of saying broken tackles and again. The cardinals are are among the worst tackling team in leak and then Chris Carson if you still getting carries. We're recording this before Monday. Night football we don't know in week sixteen. That could be a huge play against the team that can tackle tackles also rated very highly in elusive rating. So I would much rather keep targeting the cardinals for every reason to believe anything about the rams. So is there any ram player that you believe in going forward sir. Who'd you rather have cup woods girly going forward probably cup? I mean I think what set a great game and was fantastic here but I would probably want cooper couples still think he's the most steady guy in that offense. Do you buy them leaning on girly as we head towards the playoffs like they said they would. No I don't what about you. I mean I think they I think girly is going to graduate. I think they've the reason. They had him on load management throughout the seasons because they wanted to have fresh down down the stretch and I think that that's the plan and I think that they will try and use him. The question is can they actually run the ball against a good defense because they've had terrible offensive line. Play all year and it's it's really hamstrung. Hamstring D- Hamstrung their offense the entire season. Obviously Golf I was looking at Gotha. Didn't have a touchdown pass since week. CK before on for Sunday he hadn't he hadn't cracked double digits and fantasy since week. Eight year when you can't move the ball girl is not going to have much to do with this offense. It's not it's nothing it gets. Todd Gurley I love what Todd Gurley love watching Todd Gurley. I hope he's fully healthy and productive and wonderful. I just don't think this offense and specifically this offensive line is able to protect off and I don't golf can facilitate a productive offense when he's under pressure all the time the whole thing's their offense has unraveled and don't let crushing the worst defensive. Football change how we feel about the whole team and the first ten weeks we saw. Craig what do you think about. Who's deceiving you Craig? This week I was just so you know I had trouble this week finding anybody who deceived us. I feel like we all know so much now. We know all the backups. Can we kind of know who has big gains quiet games. But I was just kinda looked around at defense offenses and I noticed that the bucks defense of the last two weeks outscored every defense and fantasy which is quite contrary to what we normally would think about Tampa Bay's defense thirty nine hind fantasy points in the last two weeks and weeks five to eleven. They had thirteen total They've played Atlanta and Jacksonville in the last two weeks so that does contribute tribute to a little bit. But I kinda wanted to throw this to you guys the next two weeks. They have the colts alliance in the lines. Will I think most likely quarterbacked by David Blau Blau. Well I think who I gotta be honest kind of like David Blau on Thanksgiving. I don't know what it was. I don't know if it was a Turkey the trip to fan. I was a mess but I kind of like David Blau now. I basically wanted to come to you. Guys with the question of is the bucks defense half decent. They've given up the second most passing yards but also the second fewest rushing yards. They got eleven Kevin Jackson the last two games. They force a lot of a lot of touchdowns. Can you rely on them. If you're one of those guys who streams defenses every week. Oh man that's tough well so l.. Just say this. Their Defensive Front is pretty saw. They got sue. Obviously Vita has been playing really well and they have a really good. live-action crew Devon white the rookie linebacker is playing out of his mind. Of late they also have Vaughan David who is a perennial all pro Their main issue I think has been sort. The outside pass rush and cornerback play their their secondary's just really young and inexperienced and just has been gained burned. But I think we've we've finally started to kind of see that group you know. Come together and start to play a little better as the season's gone on so I wouldn't say that I'm confident in the buccaneers defense. Going forward. But they've got some playmakers and and they've kind of Jell together as the season goes has gone on. I think your secondary's starting to finally you know Kinda come together because it's like all first and second you guys in that secondary. Hi It's what he is. I mean I think it's easy to forget. They haven't Donald Cook Sue. And then also that Jason Pierre Paul is back playing for that that team and those are two pretty customer guys who we were absolutely dominant four or five years ago that our older but still really talented guys is to have long your line and now they're healthier than they have been along upfront in quite some time. So that part's not super shocking. But he said there's really inexperienced on the back end at Todd. Bowles the coordinator so you would hope that they would get better over time. But I'm not holding up my hopes that they're gonNA replicable. I think that the rushing defense is they've I've given up the second lease rushing yards because it's so easy to throw on them not necessarily because they're super intimidating so we are deceived. We have reached a verdict. Speaking of deceiving you mentioned Tristan. There's not enough trip. Defend a Turkey to put a baby to sleep. The reason you pass out because you're everyone eats like three thousand calories of carbohydrates traits. Let's end his trip. Defense exception big trip to fan has been putting on a successful PR campaign for thirty years. I'm tired of mythbusters Busting piggy-back like this is your idea. Everybody knows that this is the mythbusters Judaism now fifth grade. Elementary School idea about the trip defend defend. Everybody knows about the trip to fan. We're good look. This is one of our listeners are like yeah I already knew that and ten percent or like holy. What's then then you know whether it was worth it? We got to root out this information and I don't know if I really knew that Danny best see there you go one three. It's Fun Dinner Party conversation. That's about uh-huh well hope. PODCAST conversation move on the guy. You're not supposed to worry about just like don't worry about the trip to the not supposed to worry about creek. Who you know worried about Perriman I? I'm not worried about it but he might be back. I don't know he had five catches for eighty seven yards. He led the bucks in catches along with OJ Howard. who were not going to talk about? We're going to let five catches we're GonNa let it go but for sharp behrman and more yard say than he did. During the first nine weeks of his season combined more importantly this really. This is the first game that Mike Evans are Chris. Godwin did not have a touchdown on or put up seventy four yards and paramount did both of those things. The vaunted seventy four yard mark. Well Okay it could have been seventy five sounded a lot better. But the one guy had seventy five yards one time so you had to say seventy four in doing my research but so yeah the play the colts next week as I just mentioned when talking about the Bucks D Perriman Herman's zero percent owned and he's kind of kind of popped up over the second half of the season at twenty six targets and his last six games so my question to you guys is has has pursued pyramid settled into the number three receiving spot in Tampa Bay and thousands or Godwin. God forbid went down. Would you add Perriman. I don't think I would so every other week for the most part this season. It's just been funnel to Godwin Evans and so to me. This feels more like an outlier game. And for whatever reason they just couldn't funnel it to those two guys but I would probably bank more on on them returning into just like targeting. The hell out of Evans Godwin and I think anybody else in that offense. Like for a while. Scotty Miller was kind of starting to emerge a little bit as a deep threat And we've talked about our few times on this offense. It just never kind of happened. Yes so what would you rather have paramedic. OJ Howard Charlie Org Howard for for those who don't for those who are not blessed to know Rashaad Perriman. The Ravens drafted him in the first round of two thousand fifteen and he played he had four four starts in his first three seasons in Baltimore. He'll a litany of injuries but also the rare times that he was healthy made zero impact one of the least productive. First round receivers of this decade went to Cleveland last year. Washed out there again. Just two games. So as I four rental seasons he played six games and then this season ends up as the number three receiver in Tampa Bay with which is without exaggeration. Probably probably the best number three job you could ask for. Because you're in a Bruce Arians offense by Mike Evans Chris Godwin. OJ Howard. At least in theory was going to be playing tight end so you are. It's such an amazing opportunity to be the downfield threat and a downfield offense where you're going to be seeing a lot of single coverage and I think that it speaks to how poorly Rashad permanent played that he has not been able to do anything with this opportunity until this week. I don't know that you talked about there for a second. I'm saying the opportunities incredible and most receivers would have been able to make an impact. Because when they're giving so much attention to Chris Godwin so much just to Mike Evans and in reality James Winston should probably be targeting Prasada Perriman because he should be able to get open right. He has not been able to open. They've been forced feeding the ball to Godwin. And Mike Mike Evans over and over. He's in that Kevin. White Korey Coleman kind of category. Evan White is the cop yes precisely are you are you. Do you have the Kahane's to start beside perryman this week in a fancy place. What is wrong with you? I'm only asking if you know. This is the guy who has to worry about. No one was supposed to worry about Behrman this week. Would you have expected him to outscore score Evans. His ownership percentage was what zero. I would leave it there. Okay who is your guy. That's not supposed to worry about just to Toubon. Yeah I think Evans. In Godwin are going to return to their status as the funnel funnel targets and that offense going forward My Guy this week Ravi Anderson and the jets do did again ten targets seven catches under one yards seventeen point one. P P R points that follows up a nice performance last week where he had five targets four catches eighty six yards and a touchdown eighteen point six appear points meanwhile another dud for Jamison crowder. My Guy I was really disappointed. He did have nine targets. Cut Two of them for eight yards two point eight. Pr Points joints follows up a three point eight point week last week Sauce got fish mentioned this on twitter. Actually only one time this year in one game this year has Robbie Anderson and Jamison Simpson crowder both top forty yards and same game only once this year have both scored more than eight. PBR points so it's very much either. Or for Abby Anderson and Jamison crowder router so the question is how do you decide who is going to be the guy in any given week. I just don't really know what to do with either. These guys frankly. I don't have confidence start either. These guys they're kind of just a really bad version of Mike Evans and Chris Godwin seriously yeah so Bouchard paramount would be the perfect yet. Yeah DARNOLD got cold again. This last week He's been you know really very hit miss however the team does get Miami next week so it's a very good match of in theory for the New York passing game however I just I don't know I personally I'm saying from both of these. The jets are the one that loses to the witness dolphins and the news to the winless. Bengals you get. There are no more like looks good on paper anymore. That's it. They lost the two possible games on paper right so that was nice while it lasted jets are dead to be fair. All right my guy not supposed to worry about Rahima Stare running back for the San Francisco Forty niners. It's Mostert Art Mostert. Yeah I knew that and or master just really door I'll I can't remember somewhat so I have As some sources within the forty niners journalistic world. Who and yeah and so I? I got a couple of people telling me that you were pronouncing it incorrectly. Danny so just glad you let me know on the podcast. Not Behind. The seeds fixed experience. Peel back the curtain here or curtains. Raymond curtains all the way back where he mostert running back for the San Francisco Forty niners nineteen carries a hundred and forty six yards and a touchdown and a long run of forty yards. Meanwhile Tevin Coleman five carries six yards longest run to yards amazing. Must there was Maastricht Austin was playing amazing debit Matt Breda was out in this game with an ankle injury and figure that Moscow might be a little slot slipping behind Kevin Coleman Monster might just be the starter and the forty. The united the second most rushing attempts in the holy after Baltimore so this is a massive opportunity. Master leads all running back with five point nine yards per carry. That was amazing. He leads he's he's second only to Lamar Jackson the category. He is one of six running backs with a pro football focus elusive rating above eighty and. That's a fancy way of saying they basically calculate. How many missed tackles you have run on an runs and Receptions and divide them by how many people you make miss and the yardage from that the people who have elusive rating of eighty or Josh Jacobs. Chris Carson Alvin Kamara Mosser nick job. It's quite the group that is is for a minimum of ninety carries this season there thirty eight running backs that have a minimum of ninety carries. Tevin Coleman ranks thirty fifth of the thirty eight players. He's only head head of devante Freeman Sony Michelle and Frank Gore. So again seven Coleman's allusive nece around devante Freeman Sony Michelle and Frank Gore mustards. mustards allusive. This is along with Alvin. Kamara Nick Chubb. So the forty niners of three running back with more than four hundred fifty yards this season with Brita Mostert Mostert and Coleman but Kevin Coleman in Breda are mostly picking up the yards that are blocked for them by San Francisco's line. 'cause breeze Naci that Coleman elusive disrobing. He's also outside the top thirty but meanwhile masters adding all these yards and making people miss on top of the blocking he gets so I think he might have earned the lead back duties for San Francisco. Oh yeah like. He might be the best back on that team. That's amazing so he's fast. He's very very fast. I would do anything so you can get remastered. He's owned in not enough leagues. I'm kicking myself because there was a couple of weeks ago. I remember seeing him on the waiver wires and a couple of different leagues as like. Oh always behind two guys. You know like I wasn't super convinced or wherever the Thailand like man. I'm just kicking myself. 'cause yeah like you're saying he might actually we kind of finish out the season as their number one guy. I think they're going to try and ride the hot hand right now. He's the guy that has a hand so damn yeah he's only owned and in fourteen percent of league. So what is that one at a six so go get remastered. He's the number one guy would add this week I would way ahead of Darwin Thomson. Ceylan Balaj God knows Patrick layered relatives any of those guys that you would add this week. I personally have never he mostert number one by a ton. What about you? Yeah I think so I agree I. I'm still picking up Darwin if Mostert Mostert. Isn't there just because you know there's that elite upside in theory I'm way more optimistic about monster can do beautiful all right. Let's get an sleeper stream of the week where he's going to pick one fantasy flex each week. So that's running back receiver today and owned in less than forty percent of leagues. The person with the most points that we can get the win person with the most wins is GonNa make the loser. Grow Garmin shoe mustache beard. which now back and flavor back in season with the Gardner minhsiu mania? Beer got there. I'm excited last week. Actually it's not settled yet because I picked someone on Monday. Native football decays Randall. COBB for Dallas Cowboys. He had eight point. Eight points on Thanksgiving Reshad Penny. I have Rishaad Penny. He is still. TB be tonight verse. Minnesota we will see. I assume that I have one of people listening to this. You can bask in my victory is obvious. And then Craig Michael Hartmann which Craig you WanNa read how we call Hartman did even the greats fall. Sometimes one carry for nine yards. I'm sorry I'm just so excited that we finally knocked crack down a peg just starting to get a little bit cocky there for awhile scoreboard so Craig for and I'm just GonNa assume that I won this this week so I'm just GonNa Update this now so I'm K- Kids Rashad Penny so visit win. We'll revisit if doesn't need to be changed the mix I'm assuming pennies out out-produce eight point eight fantasy points around cop obviously why. Let's not even tune in this. Give me the window decay. Who are you going with this week because your flex owned in under forty percents leagues that? You're rolling with this and we fourteen. I'm going with Anthony Miller. The bears only fourteen percent of Yahoo. League's going up against the cowboys this week. He's gotten thirty. Three targets gets in the last three games. He's been a much bigger part of that passing offense over the last few weeks. I'm coming off a game. Thirteen targets nine catches under forty yards twenty three PR points. He led led the bears actually in receptions targets and receiving yards in that game. So he's trending in the right direction. He's a guy that I've always really liked going back to. When he was taken in the draft aft- He's been very up and down the season? The bears offense has been very very up and down but I think he's been a much bigger part of that passing game and trubisky bless his heart has been really looking. That's my favorite for you. Know what blush Mitchell trubisky. Start Your Day right who you got. I'm rolling for for Mostert for everything I just said. Yeah they're playing the saints this week and I think he's I think the team in touches and even if he's second I think just a Lotta touches to get from San Francisco offense. I like this one. I'm I'm already kind of pissed off. You got mustard in this one for a winning streak Craig with I'M GONNA go. They J Brown titans since Tannhaeuser. Place Marietta Age. Brown is averaging a respectable five targets and fifty four yards. Nothing in crazy but he kind of has that that do ability to kind of. He's got a big play threat guy and also kind of a underneath guy which I like in this dream or the week thing you gotta a shoot for the stars. That's why I went Michael Hartmann last week. I'm just hoping for that. Sixty yard bomb like. Aj Brown gets like McCall Hartman. Gets and I'm just locked at one. Play to beat you guys and other. They're playing the raiders. This week. WHO led up? I think more pleasant any other secondary in the NFL so unless my worry is that they give the ball. The Derrick Henry Forty eight times and they win. uh-huh Forty eight to zero but if that doesn't happen in the raiders can keep it respectable. Aj brands chances to Tannehill is still balling. I know I'm loving this. I wrote about tannehill last week at the ringer dot com and I was really impressed with just how he's played. He's sort of a very high level gay manager because he's not Asked to throw the ball at time like you said they. They definitely lean on Henry as the foundation. That passing offense but he's so good on play action and bootlegs and all these things You know as a little bit of his legs channels is awesome. He he's actually still owned. I believe in less than forty percents of leagues. So he's not a guy to pick out. We can't do street. We can't do quarterback streamers unfortunately but in this competition of ours. But he's definitely another guy that you can stream going forward. Whenever I watched Ryan Tannehill run I feel like that's a Ryan? Fitzpatrick thinks he looks when he wrote. Oh that's a great call Ryan. Fitzpatrick was just wants to lower shouldered. All he wants to do is prove you can power linebacker over the goal line. Meanwhile Ryan Tannehill actually really does it like every week. Did you guys know that Ryan Tannehill used to be receiver. I did that. was that was sarcasm. It's like the biggest cliche but he he is a very good. Athlete is point. Who knew the titans will be fun? They were literally maybe the most boring team in the beginning of the season. I think we should the known this. When Mike variable crew that porn stash? That's probably should have been the first all right. Let's go to fantasy court. Do you have a fantasy. Football dispute that needs litigation nation. Is there a question that only outside counsel can solve take fantasy court on the dentistry football podcast and the ringer. NFL Show facebook page. Bailiff Craig do you have a case for US I do. This comes from jared Ishkhanian. He actually tweeted me this he asked should leagues limit. Weekly transactions transactions ours does not. It's a twelve team league and this week team. A picked up and then rapidly dropped seven players on Sunday blocking team be from any decent late. Add Add wide receivers to replace Phelan. Should we change these rules next year. So I'm assuming he means that when you so he quickly added dropped to then put your players on waiver is that what He. Yes yes right yes. That's my. That's my assumption is because then they get those players that are rapidly dropped then have to. You have to wait till the next day I guess. Or what however were there. Waivers work in that league So no-one no-one could pick up a replacement. I think this is called. There's previous case literature on this common-law here there's this is called cycling. I believe it is if not forbidden. Intensely frowned upon in fantasy baseball. where it comes up for people to spot start on Sundays and then it's people just pick up and drop the pitchers on Sunday? So like look. Look this is. There's the most generous possible. Reading here is like legal fucked up. I agree I historically. I've been more irreverent in all of these cases but in this one. This is a Faux Pas. I think you should limit. How many people will you can add? Oh you definitely do the question is. Can you just like you know what I would be in favor. Look there are times where we all believe in a strong executive and there are times where we believe in mob roll fantasy and I think one of the fun parts of fantasy is realizing we're your friends fall and that's back but in this case I would be okay with the commissioner overruling this and being like making all those reverting those guys back to free agents that can be added because this this is just abusing the system as a loophole purely to take advantage of a rule. It's not about mistake or it's not bad faith. That's not. Yeah it's not that cold but it's immoral for sure This actually reminds me of a question. I wanted to ask you guys. This is not like like something you need to rule on. I'm just curious. What your preferences do you guys like leagues? Where after the first waiver run is over so like say you have a waiver? Run on Tuesday. Do you guys like leagues. That are first-come-first-served from that point on during the rest of the week in other words if you after that first waiver run you can pick up and drop guys Willy Nilly. You don't have anyone else. Go back on waivers And from that point on everybody is basically just free gay like fair fair. Play Fair game at that point or do you guys prefer to have rolling waivers either several times a week or you know like for instance the next day like this. I think we're assuming the the reason that I was doing this because it puts them back. Put these guys back on waivers and gives them sort of like a delay Do you guys like being in leagues. Where if you drop drop a guy like some other teams can come in like ten seconds later and pick them up if they're online or do you like do you think it's more fair to have your league you know have Either waivers every night or or like every few days. What do you think creek? My League does the traditional like there's one waiver and then after that it's just fair game and the more you think about it doesn't it doesn't really make sense. I kinda think there should be waivers. There should be one day one Saturday that should be we have so. This is actually a real life. Discussion that We were having in one of my leagues. And I don't know exactly where I land I like. I like first-come-first-served personally. Just because I'm online line all day long and on twitter all day long so therefore it gives me an advantage but it's definitely not fair to people who are in computers all week for that reason. That's what's terrible. The free agency should not be offensive because Adam schefter since one again when Bill Simmons came on this podcast explain how they used to mail stuff. That one waivers was invented. When you had to mail your standings and you to wait until Thursday to find out if you won and then send back your lineup in the Goddamn Mail? That doesn't where Adam Schefter tweets bt dubs Carlos high traded to To Jacksonville Nick. Chubb is the starter in Cleveland on like a random Thursday. Yeah Yeah and then you can just pick up nick. If you happen to be on your couch eating potato chips then you just get him while somebody else could be jim improving their life and they don't get sounds. Sounds like that's how you lost your fantasy league one my legs very yeah. It's insane that it works that way and any system that incentivizes people not having to be on the phone constantly getting advantage. I think is better having said that waivers are stupid because you should be using fridge and auction auctioned budget. which is that way? The person who wants to pay the most for player gets them and then you can have zero dollar bid so even if you spend all your money you can still make ads throughout you could do that everyday every day like eleven. Am sometimes it's knowing. Someone logs on to their computer inevitably at like noon and tries to set their lineup. And they can't add someone but nothing's perfect but I think it's it's insane to just use a system that was designed before smartphones after smartphones. The inherent problem with fantasy football is that it favors the people who just stare at their screens all day. Like that shouldn't really matter. It should just be knowledge and studying but it it. It shouldn't just be like Oh. The Guy who happens to be on his couch on. Netflix has the best team. We can agree with as a as a podcast. That at least have waivers several times a week. And that this is that this in particular court case We've frown upon that Vetos Strategy Team a team as holy in the wrong. This court recommends a reversal vercel. But if you want to appeal well there's no higher court. This is the Supreme Court so sorry team may undo that. TB You win all right. Thank you to Jarash Kadian waiting for their question. Please questions on the ring. NFL Show facebook page or at US on twitter. Craig what's your your handle again. It's just my name at changed agency. Did you change it to Cregg. Danny I haven't checked all right at Danny underscore at Kelly young. Yea At us with your fantasy court questions cases. We're here to serve justice. Thank you Deka. Thank you Craig. Thank you most of all the Devante Parker but also thank you the everyone for listening. Hope you'll have a wonderful Thanksgiving and we'll see guys ladies yeah.

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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 223: Would You Rather

GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast

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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 223: Would You Rather

"Golden state media concepts fantasy football. Podcast is your one stop shop for fantasy. Football News and advice decided who to draft first round cowing Gaga? And how a lot of your team got you covered. Dishes lead Zionists deletes heat arlene I DP DP lead even dig early. Fantasy Football League Joanna's. We'd breakdown all the questions of fantasy football. It's the golden state media concepts fantasy football podcast Hello there everybody and welcome to the DSM see fantasy football podcast brought to us by the GSM GMC podcast network all right guys. I'm your host as always mark is Vargas and today's show is going to be pretty interesting for you. Guys right actually gonNA start off today. Show talking about some drama that's been swirling around the Lee later on. We're GONNA talk about some bold predictions I have For next season and that includes you know just regular football in fantasy football and we're going to play some. Would you rather Today so just to get things started I want to say. I hope he hasn't doing well. Hope is a healthy and safe again. I've been dealing with allergies So forgive me if I sound a bit stuffy. There hit me hard this year Even though you know I'm inside which makes me a little bit more frustrated but nonetheless let's let's get started here okay so. I'm sure many of you if not all have heard about you. Know the recent drama that sort of been swirling around Regarding Michael Thomas and devante Parker of the Miami Dolphins so just give you you know. Sorta the quick rundown basically there was a post on instagram believe was NFL at posted it. that was it basically said what's harder to do. Would you rather Be guarded by Stefan Gilmore You know is that harder or is it harder to break up a pass From you know while Mike Thomas is catching it. Devante Parker He comments and he chooses this election. That said it's harder to be guarded by Stefan Gilmore than it is to you know. Break up a pass being called by Mike Thomas well For some reason or another Mike Thomas takes full offense And I'm actually going to try and get the The actuation to fully shades. Because honestly It was pretty surprising and to me. You know kind of uncalled-for so actually let me try and get this year And if you haven't seen this you'll you'll you'll see why because honesty to me I'm on the side of Devante Parker so I'll just give that you know that that you know precursor to this whole discussion because To me it doesn't make any sense. Devante Parker was just giving his honest opinion. He said nothing About Michael Thomas. He really just in his common. He just said a there was a selection for you know so fond. Go more in a Bee's election For Mike Thomas he just said a nothing about my. Thomas didn't say you know Mike. Thomas is a bomb by any means. Nothing like that but Michael Thomas Fires back. Let's see if I can get this year. Okay let's see let's see let's see okay so it was. Nfl Fox boasted question Friday asking which is harder a recording a catch while covered by Stefan Gilmore. Be breaking up a pass intended for saints wide. Receiver Michael Thomas Okay. Devante Parker commented a exit and then boom Just goes downhill from there right here? Michael Thomas Response for you. Yes go run some numbers up. Then you can talk. I laughed you and you've been in the League longer than me first rounder. What's Kinda crazy? So Parker comes back. Got some hard feeling their brother. Three question marks Let me get targeted three hundred times game. Which is Kinda funny actually. And that's because if you guys didn't know Michael. Thomas led the League on targets by about. I think it was thirty targets and I'm pretty sure the person's second-place wasn't even a wide receiver was. I believe it was Christian. Mccaffrey the running back. But I'm not sure yet. It says here He has okay. League-high targets yes are still I think he had? He had thirty more receptions than the second leader Right here league-high targets one hundred eighty five right. That's eighteen more targets than the next closest. Julio Jones who also clear cut number one for his team so then Thomas Response in other words you week. They don't even put your name in the same sentence as me. Remember that okay. He then continues with a new comment. You still not going to do nothing. It took you six years and seventeen weeks. They have a good game. Gt F. O. H. Which you know you guys know what that means. He goes blame. Your parents not know. Qb Each and then so devante. Parker response quit crying Bra. And he has a pair of laughing emojis. And then Michael Thomas Replies. You heard what I said. I just okay. And then. And then there's there's more to this Devante Parker says I didn't hear bleat playboy and then Michael Thomas Finishes it with. You can't even get to see at the table. I really don't understand this. I don't like this from Michael Thomas. It just makes him look like a crybaby on. That seems to be the sort of consensus feelings When you look at comments you look at you know. Of course you mean pages. Things like that and Just to meet this was really uncalled for. I think you know first of all. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion and Devante Parker was just making us election For a quick poll there was no disrespect intended. Now he didn't call Michael Thomas by name didn't say he didn't claim he was the best receiver. Didn't claim that you know you know. It doesn't make any sense to me and it makes sense. You know Devante Parker as a you know in the same division of Stefan. Gilmore faces him twice a year. So you know he has that closer connection to that and my experience with that rather than having experienced breaking up a pass intended for Michael Thomas so it really makes sense other devante Parker. Excuse me would pick that and not pick something that he has. No he no experiencing For Michael Thomas. This honestly lost respect for him Definitely to me. This was very immature and called for. I think he's I don't know if he's been watching. The last day is a bit too much. And he's trying to be you know Super Michael Jordan Eskin and you know take no crap from anybody but to me doesn't really make any sense No one was questioning his skill or talent And it seems this honestly insecure. You know it We recognize that. You had a great season But devante Parker appoint It's very very clear that Michael Thomas is basically the only receiver on that team. You know what I mean if your name's not Michael Thomas. You're barely getting any targets or catches touchdowns so it's a little. It's unfortunate you know. I understand the numbers. Get People's heads but I wish Michael Thomas was a bit more humble here I don't think he had to take it where he took it Coming at devante Parker career. Because you know at the end of the day let's be real here Someone told me. Would you rather have Josh Rosen or Ryan Fitzpatrick thrown to you or drew brees or Teddy Bridgewater? We all know the do people are GonNa pick right so it's a little messed up and I don't care what people say You know excuse me Wide receivers benefit from great quarterbacks and vice versa. You know something that was talking about the other day when I said you know what I do like about football why I sort of stray away from having that go conversation and when it comes to football is because nothing happens in a vacuum and in that way you know no matter who see as the best at something. Someone always pull up the certain teammates that they had the quarterback they had throwing to them. And you know I guess the only time you could say that someone was actually the greatest That they had horrible people all around them and still succeeded. De'andre Hopkins had Tom Savage thrown to him. Brock osweiler things like that and he was still putting him great numbers. You know. Michael Thomas has not had a deal with a sub par a quarterback I'll remind you teddy bridgewater just got signed to a contract to go start for the Carolina Panthers and drew brees is walking into the hall of fame. So you know I wish Michael. Thomas is a bit more humble here. He He owes his success to a lot more people than he thinks. He's a great receiver. I'm not gonNA take that away from him But he is benefiting a lot from getting a ton of targets having a hall of fame quarterback under center and I just really hope at least for his sake so he doesn't look silly that when you eventually retires and they find the replacement that he keeps up this level of success I know he's not gonNA keep up The insane you know catch numbers breaking records and seventeen hundred yards a year But he just you know better keep it up and I I think he can. He's you know he's a great receiver. He's only twenty seven years old But this wasn't a good look for him Something that's definitely going to Be a little a little stain on the not on the legacy but just at least right now In recent memory. He's not looking good for this Also assist you know. Sort of attacking a player. Who's not that great of a team? I think devante Parker is definitely a great player. Of course he's not on the level of Michael Thomas at the moment But you know he. He deserves respect his in his own. Right as well. He's playing a very very poor team. who is on the on the verge of changing culture becoming you know Probably coming back to that winning culture so yeah. That's just my thoughts in that situation guys. Definitely you know I'm going to give I guess if you had to give someone a win For that little beef I wanted to give it to. I guess you would give it to Michael Thomas because he came so hard but honestly I'm gonNA give it to Devante Parker because You know he stayed sort of respectful Not Not as respectful as you could. I guess he wasn't coming at Michael Thomas Career he just Kinda stating things that we know are kind of obvious you know. He gets the most targets and that makes sense why he gets the most catches And he was basically very sensitive over something. That didn't really require him to lash out like that so Liked this one. Devante Parker here. You know just sort of defending himself is the bad look for Michael Thomas But yes with that guys We're going to take a short break and when we come back we're GONNA get into some bold predictions for next season so stay tuned guys. We'll be right back. 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Nothing like that so to get started. You know I'm going to start off with my chiefs here. Clyde Edwards layer will be a top ten fantasy football running back. Okay and honestly guys. Of course there's no sample size. We can save him in the NFL. Things like that but Do you remember when Kareem Hunt with a part of the chiefs. He was an absolute monster. I think even though they're different style of runners Clyde Edwards Elaire has the potential to be fancy running back just how Kareem Hunt was when he was a Kansas City. Chief understand that people think that there's going to be a timeshare and it's going to be you know sharing the field with David Williams but that might last a couple of games Then it will be clear that Clyde Edwards hilarious top running back on the team and he should be the starter in the number one guy. The every down kind of guy even in passing downs. Him Him going to the CANC- cheese was absolutely insane. think he was the only college Russia with a thousand yards and fifty receptions That is literally the perfect kinda running back that we mean now definitely need a guy who's going to be catching passes because You know even when people think the Kansas City chiefs should be running the ball. Were passing the ball and that sort of work short passes work as our run game So loving addition Still am going to be talking about him a lot. I think you know He. has potential clearly to be the top raw rookie coming out. You know for fancy football coming out of that draft Of course you know. There's other running backs. Jonathan Taylor who have a lot of potential I think he has? He's going to have a tougher time getting the starting job But Clyde Edwards Hilar- guys top ten. Fancy football running back okay. Next bold prediction the Patriots. Defense does a complete one eighty and is no longer elite. Now guys the Patriots lost Key people in the defense During the off season you know especially one being Calvin who ended up on the dolphins He was definitely an overload guy. He was a great linebacker But not only it's not only because of the losses. They suffered during the off season in the lack of replacements. I believe this more. So because one they have the toughest projected schedule for the twenty twenty season and to their offense. I think is going to be pretty pretty awful and I don't I really don't think that their offense going to somehow take a leap forward Be Able to keep their defense off of the field. I think they're going to struggle a lot especially early on you. Know Jarret Stidham all that pressure coming in a new era new regime. Being a part of that franchise has one solo much and having expectations Following after Tom Brady who basically one for twenty years straight I don't think it's going to start off. Well I don't think and particularly well of course they'll get better as the season goes on but I think their going to struggle a lot Particularly because they're going to be on the field a lot Because the offense won't be doing much I mean it's only it only makes sense that that offense isn't going to do as good as it was with Tom Brady. I don't think you know right now. Anyone saying Jarret. Stidham is better than Tom. Brady is even right now With Tom Brady being as old as he is. The last time we saw Jarrett Stidham he was throwing a pick six against the jets who were getting demolished and then got benched and Tom Brady was put back into the game so You know from what we've seen from them. Nothing too special Nothing You know wild by I think you know it's GonNa be a tough time. And they're a lot of people are going to drive their defense early and a lot of people are gonNA be disappointed I'm talking about you know. Of course fancy football okay. Another edition have for someone in the Patriots Division the Dolphins Will Win The AFC east. Now I understand why people would think you know. The dolphins stink or their slouches. But I mean Brian floors is doing a really good job I think turning the team around changing that culture I think what the last nine games when the last seven or nine games. They won five games. you know they. I know a lot of people. Think as you know The dolphins are the laughing stock of the League. But I mean you know. They didn't do as bad of a job last year. You know as the Redskins As the Bengals as the lions you know so We have to remember that. They went five and eleven. Which is not you know I mean. Of course that's really really bad. What if you think of this? The chargers were also five and eleven The browns who on paper had so much talent. Were only one win. Better at six and ten you know. So it's really you know. I understand why people think that they're pretty horrible. but Do you know that the giants were foreign twelve? I mean clearly you know because they had you know draft picks but you know the cardinals were five ten in one. You know the these are teams who you know. People PERCEIVE TO BE BETTER. The panthers were also five and eleven. There's a team that people perceive to be better Than the Miami Dolphins with the same or worse record so Pay attention to the Miami Dolphins sexier guys because they've done a great job adding veterans of their defense. Which is Brian Floors? A specialty adding Byron Jones. Calvin Noy There was a defensive lineman the that was a fan of I I'm blanking on his name. And then you know in the draft getting to attack Ovalles Loa. I mean you know. I love that they did that. but you know adding offense in the draft to add that sort of talent You know they got to They get the offensive tackle In the first two rounds doing that to sort of help the offense out while also adding a great defenders in In the off season to me was very smart of them. And I think it's going to propel them. I think you know we saw a culture shift towards it towards the second half of the season where you know in the beginning of the season. Everybody's thinking their joe absolutely blown out early on in the first couple of games in felt like you know especially in fancy football. Basically any team knows playing. The dolphins start their players. Because they're gonNA go off right but towards the end the season you see them. Beat the Eagles You see him beat the Patriots. These are not any slouches of teams. I understand you know. The Eagles were sort of underperforming But I mean that's not just an easy team to beat remember. That team beat the packers. The Eagles beat the packers right. So you know The dolphins were you know Doing pretty well to end the season I think going to carry that momentum forward. They're going to surprise a lot of people so I think you know people definitely to keep your eye on. Keep an eye on them. I think they have a chance to win. Afc East all right next bold prediction and this might be my last one before our break and then we'll continue. Of course miles sanders will rise into rb one status and understand a lot of people. Are you know? They're sort of concern that miles sanders will be in a timeshare with Boston. Scott but I think what we saw from Mile Sanders to end the season with Jordan. Howard hurt was pretty Spectacular he was putting up great numbers. And I think in Philly right. Now you know I. It's it's been so long. They found you know that one guy and even when you know they made that super bowl run It was the one two punch even sort of the one-two-three Punch of Corey Clement. Luxair Blunt and. Jj by that push into a super bowl We have to remember you know Mouth Sanders finished as a top fifteen Fancy football running back last season and he wasn't the clear cut starter if we look at from week. Twelve on. He has eleven points. Twenty one ten points Wisconsin. Thirty five points. Twenty six points and of course has last game. I think that was the Game Boston. Scott went off. So Ma Centers in do much healy at eight points. But I mean that twenty six thirty five and twenty one. I think that's going to become more common next season as we know that Jordan Howard on that team anymore they have a bit of a more. You know more clear sense of you know Mal Sanders is talent his ability and I think he's going to be the clear cut number one. I don't know if you know how I feel about Boston. Scott necessarily I know a couple of people are concerned because of that huge game he had against the giants but I think Mouth Sanders is the guy Maybe he's a timeshare for you. Know You know for for to begin the season we have to remember to you. Know Boston Scott's huge game against New York had to do with you know. Mostly his touchdown three in that game I mean he had A. He had a bunch of yards receiving touchdowns to what propelled it to be a so huge. And of course. Maybe he steals some touchdowns from all sanders here and there but mal sanders is great. You know receiving and running so I think I always say guys. If you're running back as catching passes out of the backfield that's instability. I if you're playing any form And so we like that Mouse Sanders has ability to do that as well. So my last prediction for the break is miles. Sanders rises into The sort of rb one territory a long. You Know Clyde Edwards to I'll say let's say mouth centers is going to be super high. Maybe top twelve. Let's say top twelve and we'll give him top ten. It'll be a top twelve kinda guy with top ten potential. 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Yes the best season we've ever seen from a college football quarterback But that doesn't necessarily mean you're going to be great in the NFL right. We've seen it time and time again doesn't even need to be said at this point. The only reason that you know I have a feeling that Joe Boroughs first season might not be as our greatest. Some people think is because that organization is so bad and that team isn't as good as we think I understand. Joe Mixing the Great Weapon. Ag Green is only getting older has has had such severe shrugs with injury other. I'm worried about that Tyler Boyd while being you know their top receiver while Green's been gone and people look at him as a pretty good a receiver in terms of fantasy football. I think he's over hyped. I think he what is he's only top twenty five kind of receiver and I don't know if you guys know this. But in terms of the top twenty leaders catches Last season he was second worst With a his catch percentage of sixty point eight percent. The only one worse was Jarvis. Landry at sixty point one but we know the Cleveland. Browns were a mess last season. I think For some reason you know we give Tyler Boyd. A lot of credit. I think mostly because he's on such a bad team With a bed quarterback and he was making do. But I just don't know at this point so I'm also and I understand the potential that they have of they all stay healthy. I can play. Well you know having John Ross having Aj Green antilock boy. That's huge. But I don't know how much confidence I have in John. Ross and AJ green shoes me to stay healthy the entire season It just feels like Very wishful thinking at this point and You know again it's his first season in the NFL. He's learning. You know you know how this all works a new system. And he's not going into a team where you know you know it's not Patrick Mahomes to the chiefs you not. I hate to keep sort of bringing that up To seem like you know what I'm just sort of tooting my teams horn But you know that was the situation you know something like Jordan love. You know they're going to situations where it seems ideal for them You know where they can sit out. Learn I don't know if you know Joe Pearl to the Bengals is ideal for him right. So it's it's hard for me to say he's GonNa come out on Dvd clear-cut rookie of the year. Right so I think There's a really good chance that Joe Borough It's GonNa look more like a bus than he is a star in his first season. But I don't think going to be a bus overall. I think it's going to take a lot of time to get you soon. I think If he doesn't having a good season it'll be a good half a season of the first half a season will be pretty average You know in terms of you know what he regards in comparison to what he didn't college you know all the talent he has all the hype surrounding him For a little while here. He's not going to be doing too hot. And I think that'll prevent him from finishing sort of a top fifteen quarterback and fancy football but maybe towards the end of the season on points per game basis. He rises to fifteen status. But as of right now. I have no reason to believe that that'll be true or not. No reason but okay another bold prediction guys. This one might be a little crazy. Calvin Ridley becomes e- consistent. He got a consistent player with wide receiver. One potential in Atlanta. Now as guys. I think this might be Cowan. Release Year where we start to see him sort of Become the Air After Julio Jones you might start see overtake. Julio Jones. it's It's sad to think about because Julio Jones certainly Is One of my favorite players definitely. Want my favorite players to watch You know amazing Probably the best. Receiver that the Falcons. I've ever had Absolutely insane of the is. She can make freakish athleticism. I love the guy but he is going to be third. I think he is thirty one years old right now and you know getting into your thirties as a wide receiver. The decline starts to happen very very fast. It's not very you know it's not something that takes You know it's a slow Greiner slow drip so to speak It's very very quick. And I think you know. Calvin Ridley is a pharmacy. I think he has a lot of potential So I think that this is a season where we see him sort of pool. You know Chris Cottam. It was sort of a surprise right now like that and overtaking evidence a top receiver on Tampa Bay. And I think you know we might see cow really do something similar. And he's going to be a solid fantasy football wide receiver Young talented guy. A Matter of Julio Jones getting old and the drop off sort of happening he has nothing to do with Julio Jones It's probably going into the hall of fame right so this is not a dig on Julio Jones but if we look at some numbers here there were five Thirteen Games you know. Really you know He. Did you know miss a couple of games. But in five of those games he saw eight plus targets which to me is definitely Not Concerning but it definitely. It's tell a to sort of the trend. We're going to see a time goes on. I don't think it's going to be you know. Sort of a they're going to have. I think there's going to be sort of a Tampa Bay situation where it's just two very solid receivers. I don't think Julio Jones will be a clear cut number one it's sort of you know Basically tandem a wide receiver. I could see them both. Having over a thousand yards next season and Calvin really emerging now has the new star. Okay got another bold prediction here. for another wide receiver. Marquees Brown becomes a top twenty fantasy football wide receiver. And I think he might have some potential to get a little bit than that so I think you know last season. We didn't get the full potential Markey's Brown And and Lamar Jackson. We have because of Markeith Brown's injury troubles he didn't have a full offseason with Lamar Jackson. He finished number. Excuse me he finished his number forty six in terms of fancy football wide receiver rank and I think next season fully healthy the mark action throwing the ball more getting more comfortable. We're going to see markey's brown a huge leap forward if you finish as top twenty got. That means he's moving up at least twenty-six spots which honestly I think is doable. I know you know that. First GAME AGAINST MIAMI I. I'm writing off as a fluke hundred and forty seven yards on four catches only two touchdowns against Really just horrible. Maybe deficit didn't know what they were doing. I think you know more you know that Arizona game we see eighty six That'll become more the more common thing that Markey's Brown is doing well of course he's GonNa sprinkle in Hundred Yard Games of course You know hundred yards a touchdown you know I could see you know five catches a buck twenty two touchdown here because he's such a good deep threat So I think that's what's going. He's going to become sort of the Sean Jackson For Lamar Jackson and I think as long as he stays healthy. We're GONNA see him. Have a huge leap next season. And of course I'm sticking by my by story that I believe that you know John. Harbaugh knows that. Lamar Jackson needs to throw the ball more They need to you. Know get these wide. Receivers involve more for sure. So I think Markey's Brown They want him to be the number one. I hope they're Tyreek Hill and feed their tyreek hill. Then you know I know what Tyreek Hill can do to defenses so for sure Liking this there's not many wide receivers on that team to sort of threaten that number one spot. I know they drafted one by these more. He's more of a Slot Guy. Believe But certainly as a weapon but I think Markey's Brown is there guy with that kind of speed you know the NFL's moving towards you know just having speedsters. We saw the raiders take Henry Rugs I you know as a first receiver off the board when a lot of people thought it'd be Jerry CD lamb and there's good reason for that. We just watch super bowl champs win with their top receiver being an absolute burner. Not a you know. Six three golden. Get the ball. Even though tyreek Hill has ups and can definitely go up and get a ball First and foremost e than absolute burner. Who's going to appeal? The top off defenses and open up the field for the rest of the team right so When you have speed is like that it also benefits the other guys on the team So hopefully we know the Lamar Jackson to market Brown connection more and more often next season. I don't even know if that's sort of a you know. How bold is that prediction rights only bold because Markey's Brown Not that he had a poor season. I guess you could say it was a poor season but it mostly with injury Just because he finished so low in the rankings. Unless why I guess it's full now because I think he's GonNa make such a huge leap a write in one last prediction here Before the break David Johnson's going to have a bounce back year. Okay now I know. We are several years. Removed from his breakout year At the one thousand plus rushing yards eight hundred plus receiving yards He wasn't saying I think you know it. It feels ugly coming out of my mouth. You know saying David Johnson's GonNa have a bounce back year. But he's going to be on a very town offense his quarterbacks going to be super talented and I think A lot to prove he lost his job to Kenyan drake. A guy was on the dolphins who off playtime And I think you know he definitely knows that you know. He has to prove himself prove his worth prove that contract that he has that he definitely being overpaid for And show that the Texans didn't make the worst trade in recent memory right if he comes out and he becomes a huge weapon for the Texans. That trays going to look a lot better than it did when it happened. So I think David Johnson his you know he's great receiving ability great running ability. Of course he's has a fine that that peak form that he was in And stay healthy and I think you know this could be really good for the Texans and he can have a bounceback. So that's my last bold prediction. 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I got a bunch of questions here that I'll give my take on In we you know pretty clear cut. Would you rather have this or that Some stuff Most of this is actually just about the season Like next next regular season. But I won't but I definitely will Fantasy football questions as the time goes on the more and more we get into the fantasy football season. So this start off though for our first edition of it here It's going to be mostly focused on the NFL season. Okay first question. Would you rather have Odell? Stay in Cleveland or leave for me here. I think I'd rather have them leave I think you know and and the reason for that is I think I think you know I mean people. Only you know they're gonNA SAY OH. It's only one bay. It was only one bad year and it wasn't really that bad of a year but I think it's sort of the VIBE I get from Odom Cleveland you know. I don't think the market is big enough. It's not you know I think Odom needs to be on a team. You know like the New York giants was it was a great market for him. You know people have talked about La. I think he needs to move teams where I don't know exactly but I don't think the Cleveland browns the best fit for Odell Beckham Also you know now with all the talent that they have. Odell feels like a guy you know. There are some guys who are meant to just the top dog on the team and have a lot of people you know. Be Not as good as them. You know it's a diva we know. Dell's a diva so Going on a team with not that many personalities not that much talent pry would benefit him more. You know. That's why you know. When he was on the giants putting up huge numbers he was the best player on that team. It made sense right. You know and and I mean it didn't make sense for him to be a diva but it made sense why he was such a big figure you know. The team was pretty bad and he was the best player on the team he goes to the Cleveland where the roster's absolutely loaded And they're all doing poor and it just kind of takes away from odors legacy in. I think he belongs in a different team. I'm not sure if him Jarvis while it is great that their friends being on the same team might not be the best thing for them because they're both solid receivers And it just takes receptions away from Ohio who I believe needs a lot of a lot of receptions to truly shine. She's May. I also don't believe Baker Mayfield Right now. The best quarterback for him to be with because you know yes he had. Eli Manning who wasn't very good but when you know Odell was Eli Manning's clear cut number one guy right and Odell is clearly not Baker Mayfield's clear cut number one guy so I would rather him leave I know he would stay. I know he will stay but Or I have the feeling he will but I would rather him leave sooner rather than later To to see him sort of bounce back with another team But yeah so that is that now. Another guy potentially moving. Would I rather see the packers move on from Rogers sooner or later You know not saying that this would happened but I would much rather than move on from Roger. Sooner rather than later Just because I wanNA see get started with that new chapter as soon as possible. I don't want him to get his early forties and then go somewhere where we're all expecting him to just basically go and end his career right off into the sunset right. I want him to go to another team while he's still as fresh as possible at this point You know make a statement. Possibly you know compete for Super Bowl may be win one and then you know Sort of that the packers all along made a mistake The packers have made it clear. The not necessarily too worried about winning right now on the worried about the future. They're not worried about helping. Aaron Rodgers win the Super Bowl And for that reason I think you know the bridges. Basically it's on fire right now Not Complete ass yet. But I'm hoping that he moves on from the packer. Sooner rather than later sucks because you know. He said he wanted to retire packer and play into his forties. Clearly they don't feel the same way So yeah I would love to see you know Aaron Rodgers do the time Brady Do the Joe Montana Just just move on yourself next question here what I rather see. Brady win the ring I or Bill Belichick This is a toughie guys. I would rather see it's tough. It's tough I think seeing Brady win when the ring. I is a better story but me personally man I duNno. I think I'd like to see Bill Belichick when the ring I without Brady. Just because a hater and And I would like to see you know everyone's theory of Tom. Brady's assistant quarterback and he's not as good as we all think you know. I like to see that sort of come true to help my case you building Patrick. Mahomes this case. You know making a run for the best quarterback ever Ballot check wins it without Brady severely. Tarnishes Brady's legacy I believe at least You know I don't care. How many rings? You know the first time you leave. Belgium GOES IN WINDSOR. Ring with struggling for a year with no quarterback and then rebuilding team in a way one one before Brady does or wins one before Brady. Does that would be insane. I think it's much easier right now for Brady to win the ring. I that's why I'm going to go ahead and say I'd rather see Belichick when it first okay next question which division worst team would. I rather see. Do a one eighty okay. This one is definitely tough because I got to the cardinals where the division worst and the dolphins were the division worst. Cheat this question guys. I don't know see because you know if the cardinals are. You know doing a one eighty That means they're competing and possibly winning division as very very hard With the Rams seahawks and forty niners but the Miami Dolphins to pull that one eighty you know they have an easier division to take over. I think it would be much more of a shock if the dolphins win it when their division even though the division is easier because of how bad people perceive their team to be last season That would also mean in my opinion that to attack Ovalles. Lola is probably going to start. Because I don't see Ryan Patrick. You know neo taking them very very far. He's very inconsistent. Even though he can get the job done He showed us time and time again. Interesting it's interesting. I guess I'm GonNa go ahead and say I'm GonNa go say the cardinals just because you know they have I'd rather see them with the harder path. But I'm really even here guys. I'd rather see either one of these know. Two teams winning their division. Or pulling aiding competing for the division win would be very very satisfying. I'd love it if the cardinals did the Dre Hawkins is going off. Cuyler Murray's having a breakout season and the cardinals. Are you know the best? They've been in a while but at the dolphins turn around. It's a great story. The dolphins can finally you know Kinda get restored A winning team. They haven't won in a while. I mean they didn't make the playoffs. You know a few years ago. We remember that I made the Wildcard. I believe in. I was still a team But other than that. They just been synonymous with losing these. Those are two good stories You know other teams. I guess yes it would be cool. You know. See The bengals but if the bengals if they win other divisions turned around that means the ravens are steelers are doing poorly and I. I'd rather see the steelers Ravens winning You know for someone like the Redskins you know who their division worst and the chargers for sure not because that means my chiefs aren't winning the division You know for like the Redskins that means a cowboys. Eagles are severely underperformed yet again So yeah I'd had this. I'd have to say the dolphins or the cardinals. I guess I'd give to the cardinals too so I can see no give an answer. Okay next one who I rather see when the NFC EAST EAGLES COWBOYS OR OTHER EAGLES. Sorry cowboys fans are you guys know. Cowboys haters much as the next guy Got a role with the eagles here. Yes I'm biased. Know I live in Philly guys when the Eagles winning the spirits are great. The vibe of the city is nice and alive. Love it when they're losing. You know how those fans are. They're horrible various sore losers And honestly I just think you know I just. I like the Eagles Organization I like I like what they do. Howie Roseman being aggressive. When you know when you went super bowl I like Doug Peterson you know. He was a coordinator in Kansas City. So yes I'm definitely biased here I like Carson Wentz over Dak Prescott. Sorry guys I'd rather see. The Eagles take the division for shore also because it would come to the dismay of so many crazy cowboy fans across the nation. All right for the last one. Who would I rather see start week? One two or Ryan Fitzpatrick I'm GONNA go with. Oh Man I you know the fan me wants to see to start Week one but I'm going to be realistic here and I'm Gonna I'm Gonna I'm GonNa say I'd rather see Ryan Patrick Star. Just because I I want to know that to us fully healthy and ready And I don't want them to rush him back If if you know they don't have to if Ryan Fitzpatrick start struggling. Then we clearly see. Okay it's time for to. It's time for him to step up And you know he can do his thing. And it's you know not too bad you know sitting out a game or two Doesn't mean you're just going to suck when you come in because he didn't start the season we saw Baker Mayfield going to tear his rookie season Starting behind tyrod so While the Phantom would love to see to a start and carry the team sixteen games. I think I'd rather him sit behind Ryan Fitzpatrick a couple of games. But if Ryan Fitzpatrick goes out there and leads and week one to go ahead throw to in there. So that's my. Would you rather for today guys with that? We're GONNA take a short break Move onto the next segment so Stay tuned guys. Were definitely gonNA keep updating that. I think that's a cool little segment we can keep doing some would you rather And then of course tied more into fantasy football by with that guy stay tuned. We'll be right back after this short break. Are you looking to get your college football becks? 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We're all going through this cove in nineteen struggle together And it's what I meant to say was it's become evident that now you know restrictions are loosening up cities states etc. Are Basically you know trying to as fast as possible Reopen and have things back to normal with that has come Some announcements from the Commission on the League you know for plans for you know the NFL teams To reopen so I just want to give my thoughts on this and You know just just talk about it because it's something that definitely is very very important and and if it's done the right way can be very successful but So basically as of today. Nfl teams can begin reopening their facilities If state and local governments will allow it That was a memo sent to all thirty two teams. I think it was last Friday Roger Goodell sent that memo to thirty two teams. He stressed that you know every. Nfl Club must be in compliance with any additional public health requirements in their jurisdiction and have implemented the protocol that were developed by League medical. Officer Dr Alan Sills and distribute to all clubs on. May Sixth now facilities have been closed since late March You know obviously the coronavirus pandemic and He also says clubs unable to meet these criteria may nineteenth may reopen their facilities on the earliest on which they're able to meet the criteria so basically as always you meet the specific criteria after today or today. You'll be able to reopen your facilities. Now I do like this. You know I'm definitely happy To See this sort of thing happening you know. We've been quarantined for quite some time. I've definitely been Uber cautious as to you. Know sort of a limit my contact with people outside of my home and you know to see the things that people are trying to get things to go back to normal is nice however you know like I said because I am so cautious it worries me because I don't want anything to be rushed or anything to be done too soon. I know the prospect of having things go back to normal at this point. Seems like you know it's sort of like fantasy like oh man I can't wait. You know every day trivial things have now become luxuries right. I can't wait to just go to you know sitting at a restaurant. I can't to be able to you know Go to a certain store things like that. You know a buy clothing. I can't wait to go walk around the Mall. You'll things like that and become People miss them so much. It seems that people are becoming desperate And you know we actually saw you know Tom Brady. There's some pictures Tom Brady in. Tampa Bay Bucks You know running a little practice At a Tampa Bay high school. I believe it was And so you know things are slowly slowly you know starting to get more normal But you know there have been talks about you know and then inevitable. Second Wave Right On experts have warned against you know. Excuse me reopening too fast or too quickly easing restrictions. Too Much And risking the start of another wave. That would again make us have to do this all over again right so that that. That's where my concern is you know. I know we can't sit in quarantine forever however you know. Sometimes it is necessary. You know to see you know. There are a lot of people who protest the quarantine For some reason or another It's tough because while I guess you know you know it's easy to understand the sentiment of wanting to leave home and not being allowed to and you're right that Cetera etc If we are irresponsible with this virus it will only get worse comeback. The same as it just happened. Right so It's great I can't wait for the facilities to reopen teams. Get into their off-season programs. Of course you know. I want training camp to be thing. It's going to be very very crucial for you. Know these incoming rookies and teens with additions. New Veterans New coaching staff et Cetera. Et Cetera to have An off season an active. You know physical person off season and training camp because should these things before to go virtual on without you know postponing them and just having to go straight into the season it's going to be very very difficult and different for teams to sort of get that into the swing of things so I mean if it's postponed that's fine you know whatever. It takes the lead to reopen safely. And so that you know. Corona virus isn't too much of a threat to ruin sports Then I'll take it you know. I don't mind watching sports with no fans in the stands. I don't mind it at all. I understand it's way different like The UFC fights that just recently happened with fans there It is a different experience. But it's something I could certainly get used to if it means I can have sports to watch During this pandemic As long as everything's done according to shirt protocol And everyone's being safe. Then you know that that's fine with me also just to talk to touch on the Tom. Brady's work organized with teammates It was said to be in accordance with league protocol. They weren't breaking any rules. Whatever that is. I don't know whatever that may be Because you know everyone is a touching the ball. I'm not sure you know if the League certain things you know the players have to be certain feet apart which is definitely possible but Yeah I mean I. I don't think doing anything rides. Wanted to make that clear because I know in the path talk about Dak Prescott. I talked about Tom. Brady you know going to the neighbor's house and I've sort of condemned certain actions but I mean as long as this was allowed by the League and allowed by the state Can you know there's nothing wrong with it But yeah those are my thoughts on guys. I really really want the league you know to. I understand how much money you know. You know. Pushing postponed the season and not having fans how much money that's going to cost the league but At the end of the day I wanNA have a season right. I don't want you know sort of a horrible situation would happen to the NBA. Unfortunately to happen to the NFL You know what happened to the The xfl unfortunately corona virus really messed up a lot of things. And it's really really important that we you know take as many precautions as necessary And not just be caught up in. I WanNa Watch sports and all the League needs money and I'm bored and things like that you know I've seen a lot of people Sort of be irresponsible. you know to just because you know at the expense of others health right It's sort of getting to the point in the in the quarantine where people are starting to doubt that corona viruses. A thing right because it's not affecting them or anyone they know personally So they're taking more liberties and risks when going outside but it's important to know guys like this thing is real All of these places wouldn't be closed down. If it wasn't we wouldn't be stuck in our homes if it wasn't right so we just have to keep going no matter how long these things Do our part to make it end as fast as possible. cannot wait for sports to come back. I know that sounds redundant at this point. Every sports fan cannot wait for sports to come back. But I'm sure you know you'd rather wait awhile then to come back to early. Get a little bit of sports in half to do this all over again so I mean. Those are my thoughts on a guys. Hopefully everything settles down sooner rather than later but you never know with this sort of thing So Yeah With that guys we're GONNA go into our next break and of course after that break will go into our last segment of the show Just to wrap up this segment here while Corona virus guys hope you continue to stay safe Practice social distancing You know basically act like it was you know we had. I are the quarantine. That's the best thing you can do. I know there was paying. I'M NOT SAYING. Go full on panic panic buying but you know as cautious as everyone was being during the beginning us how we should be throughout. You know what I mean Definitely treat this thing like it is serious even though you know it is getting better in some places it is But we don't WANNA be too cautious all right guys with that. Let's take short break. We'll be right back. This is your alternate staffer. Everything sports the Golden state media concepts reports podcast. Should I say more from the NFL MLB THE NBA TO MMA? It's all in here. Golden state media concepts sports podcast. Listen now God crap. All righty guys. We enter the final segment of today's show of the GMC fantasy football podcast brought to you by the GMC podcast network. Okay guys today. I want to entities show talking about some stuff basically basically doing in other news because there been some interesting articles that I've been reading some You know even if it's not very important I think it's very interesting stuff going on around the league today. I want to open up with an article Where they were sort of dissecting the schedules and they talked about how Which teams have the easiest stretches throughout the season with the easiest based on you know strength of opponent? Obviously now I just want to talk about number one here. Because it's getting sort of concerning for me as a chief's fan knowing that there's only one top seen with a bi week the Baltimore Ravens were ranked by CBS sports dot com to the easiest opposing stretch At any point during the season it's the last three weeks of the season about you know the best time you could wish for a great stretch and they also have already been ranked as having the easiest projected schedule for twenty twenty all so not only do they get the easiest schedule You know they're getting the easiest stretch at a very key time. During the season their last three opponents will be the Jaguars giants any road game in week. Seventeen at the bengals now. This is a huge deal. Considering that seventy s are now going to be in the postseason as we all know From each conference and that means only one team east conference is going to get that. I run by right so with that one by grabs. This is basically going to mean if the chiefs during the chiefs Ravens game. Whoever wins that game is probably going to have the most Likely the winner. That game is most likely going to be the first seed right if the chiefs should lose to the Ravens in that game or vice versa You can sort of the chief lose. They're going to have to basically kiss that first round seat goodbye because the ravens have such an easy schedule he's Projected at this point in time again you know the chiefs are going to have to work harder not saying that they have such a you know a terribly difficult schedule but you know they don't get to play the jags giants Bengals In their last three weeks this article also says you could argue. They're easy stretch actually starts in week fourteen when they play the browns. It's pretty insane So they'll end. You know the end the last four weeks. Be Brown's Jaguars giants and Bengals for their last. Four Games of the year Definitely concerning as a fan of a team in the AFC ball's GonNa have a real shot To Take that I see guys and and looking at their schedule and you know that super easy stretch at the end Definitely going to take some Luck again for us or excuse me a magic or some big upsets To sort of help the chiefs lock it down. The Ravens are going to be good. Of course they're gonNA regress a bit. I don't think they're going to be as high powered offense as they were last season. But they're still a very solid defense going to be phenomenal next season. I do think so at this point. so yeah another article that. I wanted to go over. It's one sex. She just more funny kind of interesting. Lebron James revealed that he was offered a contract by the Dallas cowboys. Now that to me I mean I'm not even GonNa make a joke about Dak Prescott Sal a contract because I don't know what Dak Prescott is asking for And I don't know if this is a this a bad or good. Look for the cowboys I don't know but it's very very interesting. Lebron James said during the twenty eleven. Nba Lockout he trained for football. Then he said That Jerry Jones offered him a contract. I I don't know me just goes to show you know Jerry Jones is all about. The business is all about you. Know the wow factor in making the cowboys you know the team that everybody wants to watch and that certainly would have done it. I really don't know if that would have been a great idea But you know it certainly interesting to think about You Know Lebron six for nine to fifty plus Huge guy basically probably could have been tight end We know he's athletic enough to catch a ball and the Brian James. Actually even yeah. He mentioned that he he said this quote. I have dreams all of the all the time but being able to play football. It's crazy because I actually never run on the field in my dreams. It always gets to the point where I'm either in the locker room or getting dressed talking about or seeing the fans and as soon as I'm about to run the field something else happens in my dream. It's it's like something that always happens like that So it's very very interesting. Said basically we talks about second itchy. Never really got to scratch Something that he was definitely interested in at that point in time he hadn't yet one NBA title And you know it's it's Kinda weird to think about because you know you know when we talk about Other players playing other sports. It's very rare thing. First of all for you know have multi sport professional athletes But you know it's not it's not like when Michael Jordan went. Play Baseball when we already knew. You know. This is great. He's amazing it actually would make more sense for Lebron back then you know to. He could switch words evening. He was great at basketball. He wasn't winning rings or anything like that. So it's definitely Interesting to think about I don't think he ever would have done it. You know it seems pretty crazy to about two. Just think from a football standpoint Jerry Jones offering a professional basketball player football contract and then being in these football contract Tense situations with his own. Players is Kinda funny. I thought that was interesting. I do I think Lebron to succeed in the NFL. Maybe I mean. He's a huge athletic. I think you could have definitely some success. I don't think he's going to be a hall of Famer in football but interesting to think about thought it was something funny So yeah I just wanted to share my opinion on that another thing actually might be the last thing actually. No I WANNA talk about this here man the NFL has really been getting bad. Looks from all of these players. Being arrested I know you guys have seen it. it was pretty insane. I think on Saturday four. Nfl players were taken into custody. I mean it seemed like every notification house getting this weekend was about a player taken into custody or one for certain crime The first player arrested was a cody. Latimer is a receiver for the Redskins The quarterback for the seahawks Quinton Dunbar and the quarterback for the giants the Andre Baker Turn themselves in after arrest. Warrants were issued for them A couple of days prior Andre Baker was accused of using a semi automatic firearm to rob multiple people with the help of Dunbar. Basically he was an accomplice and then on Saturday evening at Oliver was arrested on charges of Dwi and unlawful possession of a weapon. It's just a shame You know these are young guys guys who are They have potential and talent. And it just. I don't know what's going on. It just seems I don't know it was quarantine making them. Crazy isn't making them upset. I don't know if it's you know I don't know what's happening but and of course I say that sort of facetiously But it just it really is a shame you know because during this tough time. We don't really have sports. Any news is going to be able to fide right. And so this this news would've already been amplified pretty badly now that it's the only one of the you know little bits of news that comes out of the NFL. There's even more of a magnifying glass on these players. And it just I mean they have so many players getting arrested in such a short period of time a really bad look on the NFL It's a shame I hope these guys can get everything settled and get back on the right track. But I don't know if these guys are. Actually you know convicted of these crimes. seems like Well at least you know Andre Quinn Dunbar. They're pleading not guilty But you know basically he's could be a career ruining uh situations for these players and it's unfortunate But you know it is what it is. I will definitely keep an eye on these stories by just wanted to touch on that. That is a shame. I hope Things can definitely get turned around and get right so the next thing. I'm GonNa talk about Just to wrap up. The show is the new changes that have been made to the Rooney rule. Now it's a subject that I touched on In the last episode I I do WanNa mention just first and foremost The the new They were trying to put in the new rule that would incentivize teams to hire minority coaches To give them higher draft picks that has been tabled for now so it hasn't been completely dismissed tabling something Using you know so they can try and make it better. Rework it on get it to its optimum place before signing it into You know being a lead rule or process so That was good to see because also what I said what I was saying that I don't know if that was enough To make a difference or the right sort of difference that we need you know Seem very simple you know. Hey Higher minority get the higher Dra- pick on that's not necessarily what we want right because it's much deeper much more complex than that And it shouldn't be just. Hey we'll give you for ward For hiring minority coaches so I like that But now to the for the changes for the Rooney rule teams when I'll be required interview at least two candidates from outside the Organization for any vacant head coaching job and at least one minority candidate from outside the Organization for any vacant offensive defensive or special teams coordinator job previously. The Rooney rule had required teams interview. Only one minority candidate for head coach. None for coordinator so this is good. I actually I really like this I know you know. Of course that's going to be Much more that the league needs to do You know to to change. You know the sentiment and the problems That you know franchises have With the lack of hiring minorities but Know steps in the right direction. We're taking steps and I can appreciate that I do. You know bigger steps. Need to be taken but you know. Sometimes it's a small victories That matter now This is interesting as well. The Rooney rule is expanded to apply to a number of executive positions. Excuse me teams in. The League office are now required. Interview Quote Minorities and or female applicants and quote for positions such as team president and quote senior executives and communications finance human resources legal football operations sales marketing sponsorship. Infotech and security positions and. That's very good. I appreciate them also adding the female applicants because you know I can appreciate you know seeing you know. you know females are breaking boundaries breaking the sort of The gender barrier that there is a in football I don't mind I know a lot of you know. The problem is football such a macho and aggressive sport that people might think it's only for men and even though you know only men play the sport. There's no reason that a woman who knows what she's doing and is very qualified shouldn't be able to coach Or you know. Be in the office Helping a franchise out. I really appreciate You know Women figures in sports. And you know they don't only need to be in a broadcast boost or on. Tv shows they can do just as much as a man can't on the football field so You know hopefully thanks you to change and hopefully you know everything you know. We can keep progressing forward. And seeing a bunch more diversity in the NFL but as of right now just those changes have been made just wanted to highlight those changes Of course there's a bunch more But I I I mean I like that now you know. Coordinators are going to have to win hiring coordinator. You have to hire minorities as well because it felt like you know. When people were hiring for head coaching jobs? It was well You know we WANNA hire offensive and defensive coordinators and those were predominantly white men so You know to see that you know. Hopefully we'll get more minority hires in the coordinator positions and hopefully that will eventually lead to more Minority head coaching hires. But with that guys. We're GONNA leave you here to end the show. I WanNa thank you for listening to the GSM. See Fantasy football podcast as always guys. It's it's very much appreciated. Hey whatever you liked. Whatever you didn't like hopefully you know. Leave it below. Let me know. Let us know because that helps us. Always keep you constructive respectful. Please Hope you guys follow us on Facebook. Twitter instagram any of those. You know social media platforms. You guys may be on and be sure to stay safe out there guys. It's you know we're in trying times and I hope you are saying happy safe and healthy so with that guys again. 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I Hate the Fins No. 41: A Life Without Tua? Is it Worth Living?

The Phinsider

49:19 min | 1 year ago

I Hate the Fins No. 41: A Life Without Tua? Is it Worth Living?

"This is I hate the Finns. I don't remember number episode. This is completely lost track but the important thing is where with the insider CIDER radio podcast network happy. Do be a part of it. My name is Keith. I'm your usual host. I'm joined by Zach my usual co host. This is our first show. Oh of the New Year Point Twenty Welcome thank you again. I have a lot to talk about a lot. That's gone on since Sunday which is when we last recorded. Monday was a big day for the dolphins more than victory Monday. It was surprising afternoon. I'd say for most people Chatto Shea. Dolphins offensive coordinator. Did I thought pretty. Good work with the wide receivers. This year Evidence of that Devante Parker v and what receiving yards this year Absolutely took it to Stefan Gilmore. Who who is the best corner in the League in the last game game the Patriots needed is not like they were out there? Just running their scrubs. Because they didn't they didn't have a point in being there they did and lost and Parker is a big reason for that. I mean he took Stephon Gilmore's lunch money. Has He did a lot of corners this year so anyway channel Shea A lot of people had an issue with the run game though he kept hearing about not enough commitment to the run game didn't like how it was implemented Clementi. It's on and so forth so Monday afternoon comes around Chatto shares out which is surprised news and he's the only one We now need a new offensive line coach. We need a new safety coach right. Yeah yeah new. Defensive backs coach will safeties. I was GONNA say I thought it was specific to safeties missing anything. I think it was just those three. I don't think there was anybody else. So Bryan floor is clearly not someone who's just going to keep his friends that around for the sake of friendship but but then things get weird because you start seeing all these rumors that the reason they bumped Chat O'Shea was because Jerry Shipp Linski and ski. I think I'm saying his name correctly. Now Known Josh Mishandles is likely going to get a head coaching job. I have no idea how in the hell that happens after what he pulled with Indianapolis a couple years ago but he's he's up for it and he wants Lhasa jumped ship for now and the rumor was they felt the dolphins were greasing O'Shea so they could promote ship Linski or however the hell you say his name to keep them away from Josh mcdaniels grubby hands as he builds his own staff so he can inevitably leave them at the altar alter when he decides that he wants to go back to how the teen Belichick so that was the rumor and then New Year's Eve comes around and Chan Gailey is the higher. I wasn't New Year's New Year's eve New Year's Day breath is point either. I think I think it was New Year's the day I think about it. Therefore week has just completely congealed into one big BLOB. The last two Louie's have actually but anyway Chan Gailey not old by people years. Sixty seven but Zizi seven is considerable in football years. Especially when their head coaches running around out there who aren't even in their mid thirties. Now ZAC Taylor is Dr. I think he can at this point. Can you drink though. But can't he drink. Yeah Sean mcvay still you think Sean mcvay as like a year year and a half younger than me which is insane gene. 'cause when he got hired. I think I was thirty. Two made him thirty What do you think because I mean Chan Gailey has done a good job of building offenses around the talent he has? You said it today and I love this term spready Eddie. He's ready guy. What in the hell are we going to do with him? Yes I mean. I think we'll see a little bit more. We we ran a relatively open offense this year. I don't know it's just hard to put your finger on exactly what's going to happen. and gold back statistically tickly the results from offenses isn't spectacular yards. Points wise typically. They're they're not the worst but they're not the best I think the best year was at twenty fifteen. Jets here Which is funny? Because wasn't that the Fitzpatrick trocaire. Yes yeah so I mean but like Fitzpatrick isn't obviously a long-term answer so I don't I don't know what you're shooting for their there But otherwise his offense typically like yards and points wise fall somewhere between fifteen sixteen like twenty fourth and twenty twenty-fifth So it's not like he's had a track record of having outstanding offense So I mean he had a better track record in in The late nineties there but the NFL in the late ninety s no more no no no no no A lot of people think this is going to benefit the run game. I hope so I will. I'll give him a bath. The Dow just because Brian Floors has been right. Thus far I don't blame him for clean things up in terms of offensive line coaching because our offensive line was just complete. Shit this here when you really get down to it now. A lot of that is personnel. And the fact that you're mixing guys who are either rookies or guys who were never really that good guys who are okay. Kilgore Kilgore's Okay Kilgore isn't the Guy I don't think I don't think he's GonNa. He's not the future. I hope not offensive. Him Jesse Davis. I think we've got to right. Tackle there Michael Dealer. was I mean loss for most of the year ear but I don't know what they expected him to do. I mean the guy. He's playing with us. Probably the most savvy in terms of being a variety kilgore he Abbey so they did provide left tackle this year so no no no no and I. I saw some people trying to buy Jillian Davenport. Just stop it now. Stop it just stop Yeah so I I'M NOT GONNA I'M NOT GONNA kill deeter for that I like I'm biased because I like Wisconsin offensive linemen and it's rare when they're they're not any good like yeah. I can think of a couple of guys you know. We've talked about gave curry me on the show. The fact that I mean John Moffatt just didn't WanNA play. I think he wanted to smoke weed. Wasn't that his thing. Yeah yeah but that's fine. That's fine but I think that was he. I in terms of guys who had an issue with the league stance stance toward marijuana. I think John Moffatt was quite voelkel. Inaccurate if I recall correctly and then Peter Cons is the other the guy that that pretty much less. I've that twenty hand and I think cons played in twenty eleven but that Wisconsin offensive line. Mine was quite disappointing. But you think about the right side that offensive line I think was Zeitler and Ricky Wagner and those dudes. They're still playing at a high level so and second contract guys which is is kind of the judge there they got paid zeiler definitely got paid and Wagner Beggars in Detroit. Now I think but I mean like he was a surprise when he was Baltimore previously. I think yeah anyway we're rambling. I'm railing dealer. I'm not gonNA old against them. They need to get a solidified. Vied left tackle which brings me to my next topic. You mentioned this today. You called me. I was on on the road. Alex Leatherwood who is Alabama's left tackle which in some ways. He's kind of their right tackle because because they have things constructed to protect left handed to Toggle by Loas blindside Alex other woods going back to Alabama Obama which was a surprise because he was considered like a late one. Yeah I think most people had him Kinda late one pretty solid second round guy. He's going back and it's got people thinking is because to made the announcement yesterday that he's GonNa. He made the announcement announcement that he's going to announce on January six. What he's going to do? which I I thought about this at the time I didn't think too much of a lot of people are pissed off about the fact that it's just like dude just announce it don't make an announcement that you're going to announce like don't set a date for her do it but the fact that he's doing that makes me think that might be going back to Alabama and we saw the rumors I I wanNA give credit The people who have said that in the Event that it's true your sources recurred and there are a lot of a lot of dolphins insiders a lot of people who claim their dolphins insiders on on dolphins twitter. There are a couple of where they say something all right maybe so. I can't think of the names right now. There are three or four. Who have been putting this out there so I wanNA give credit because sure as hell not us now? We're we're just a couple of jackasses stuff and where we are right. It makes us look halfway intelligent. Yeah I mean the other thing we talked about when it came to Leatherwood. Go back as nobody else outside of Smith Smith said. He's going back for sure. Doing Moses is now caught up in some weird insurance policy also legal stuff that may force him into the draft but he was originally going back. Jerry Judy gets no benefit from going back. So we assume he's GONNA go pro he he hasn't said anything And then I remember Henry Rugs before the game when they were interviewing him He actually said like I don't know This is the last game of the season season. That's all I know. We'll see where it goes from there. so I mean the the domino's just keep falling that dude's saying that their goal back in to put out there that You know he's GonNa make an announcement on the six where I don't see a reason for him to say on the sixth that he's going to the NFL at this point like like with his injury unless he has miraculously healed in like record time and he's on track to participate at the combine. Like you you ride that out to the twentieth or whatever. The deadline is So I mean the pieces are just looking as they're gonNA fall that Bama's GonNa try to get the band act together and go for another playoff run next year which I can understand so it feels like it. So yeah I I haven't heard too much about rugs. Everything Judy said yesterday made it sound like he's out but I don't know and I mean that would that would suck because I'm such a huge fan. That guy in terms of his skill set and everything rugs rugs is is a speedster. I love watching him. Play play Keep talking about the fact. I've seen a couple of people put out there that Denver's an ideal place for him and I agree with that because I think they should pair him with Portland Roland Sautin. I think that would be pretty kick ass one two punch devante Smith and I've said this before. I thought he was their best receiver of the season. That's not yeah. I don't think he's their best player. You know obviously I think Jerry Judy's the where's the crown in that in that receiver Corbett Devante Smith. I wish it seemed like every game especially when they needed a big place like number six was the guy doing and then Jalen sophomore it so you suspect I mean it's different for hairs. I think Nigeria's needs to go. I mean like he is his stock is high. He was a bouldering that that ballgame. I'm in no offense in Michigan. It's not alter impressive in my opinion when you're bulldozing Michigan. But he did what he needed to do. So leatherwood stays jet is general's junior right. Es Okay he is an interesting case because you can make the case right now that no player on that squad has is going to have more height behind his drafts. ACTON ACTON goals yeah I mean but that's also based on draft Internet right now. It's who knows. Well that's what I mean. So if if he could be here something totally different from more reliable in front office Kinda guys so but I think he's he's probably he's probably the spotlight Nausea Aris at this point that you're at the point that you're probably get to see you might as well take advantage of it. Things get weird if all those guys go back especially I mean and that's not even concerning during the two angle for Miami although we always knew that this was possible and I thought it became more possible when he got hurt. Because I think he's a proud dude. I don't think he's GonNa look at that program and say like I you know I had a good run and everything. I took over the eleventh hour in the National Championship. Eh Totally Shit all over Georgia in Mel talker going man coverage on what was it like second in thirty six or something. Ah Mel and listen. I still think about that game and I I think it was called the talk show in that game right. Yeah yeah he was. Okay I think so. That's Because I know Calvin Ridley is the one who caught the the. The game tying N- touchdown in that game. So Man Calvin Ridley while them in so anyway. Let's take a second here and think if two is Out let's assume he's out let's say Judy's in and now that that front or that I five in the draft. We know who the first two guys are going to be unless something really weird happens in the the redskins get all redskins easy on us. It's GonNa go borough Oh and then chase young and then you got the real wild card and all this which is Detroit because Detroit could. Derrick Brown is a popular pick. I've seen and Jeffrey Okuda would be probably best player available in terms of a lot of draft boards at your draft board of course and then the giants in some ways you feel like they take. Who Detroit does not because they have? I think some similar needs. So if you're Miami and you're sitting at five what would you do. I mean they and not even thinking about who falls to you like is there a target in mind d just go best player available billable. You had a great theory earlier and I think you have to imagine. It's on the table for Miami. You talk about that. I'm guessing we're talking about The for sale sign on that pics. Then Ya yes so I mean it all comes down to the real for sale sign happens at three with Detroit If if two isn't available and somebody wants to secure a QB for sure Move into threes. Your best bet even at that point. I'm guessing somebody will be two three for Justin Herbert Good for them But so if Detroit just just picks if you know assures the giants will put a for sale sign up at that point If IT GETS TO MIAMI. And they're not sold on trying to Kerber but somebody behind them is you could see them trade out onto say they could just say. Hey Look Herbert's not the bill that we're looking for especially Offense at they're trying to roll out here is not. You don't need a huge arm or anything for you. Don't need a a herber or an easterner. Whatever ever you can from your way to happiness at that point so they could they could put up a for sale? Sign to if you know of Carolina wants to jump The chargers chargers WANNA bump up one if somebody wants to bump up over both of them I think that's definitely a possibility Just because at that point again five five is a spot where there's a lot of guys that dolphins could take what you kind of potentially put a question national value But at the same time there's a lot of guys where you know. We talked about last year with clue. Feral go in at four was a little high for Cleveland feral. Yeah probably but look at the end of the day like kid could you understand it. Yeah so there's going to be plenty of guys like that to the dolphins range f five as as we were random question should they have taken Clinton ferry over Josh Allen I mean I don't I don't know if Josh Allen 'cause I feel like Josh Allen they would have put his hand in dirt and that's that's just not who he is. He's done better yet he. He's more of that. Long Overhang sampler. We actually talked about this with Washington taking chase young That they may do this Montas sweat in a forefront scheme so it's hard to say I just don't think he would have fit as well as he did with that role in Jacksonville seems like Jacksonville. Schemes a little more flexible. I mean if you're taking a clue in Farrell where they did I mean he had stupid linked. He's got while ago six ten wingspan. Yeah yeah at four so dumb length per cursed up quickness. Check all the boxes in terms of pass rush Optics your your banking your banking on the upside. I mean it's a risk. I'm sure draft dad and GRUDEN. We'd be the first people to admit that but Um I don't know it just looking at this draft in. I am actually getting back to the first thing we talked about Washington earlier with that here here Alabama interior of Alan and Doron pain. And we've made the joke before I think that Washington gets all the top name Ala Bama Defensive Lineman and then Detroit takes the second guy like a Sean Robinson. I think Sean hands they're still yes. Anyway I don't I don't know what I would do there because they we mentioned they need a left tackle. There's there's a decent chance the top guy on your board is going to be there at five so maybe just do that right there or maybe you value the defense side of the football early on and you agree that I'm talking about them. You agree that you're sort of punting not punting on the twenty twenty one class. Oh yeah so I mean maybe you Look Maybe Jeff Okuda makes it a a five again you don't you don't know what the hell we'd even mention the X.. Mess yeah Monday and kind of come to think of him when he was a messy day for the dolphins after twenty four hours at. You're such such an incredible feeling of winning and Foxborough for the first time an eleven season or eleven years And then saving Howard. I'm sure people listening. Are you know what happened there. The DV and Not Not good not good at all and seems Jr is incredibly stupid. What went down? I remember just reading it like eight or nine times and thinking what in the hell over at the end of the day so so senseless and but anyway so we don't know the future of the corner position here so I mean and that was a really long way of saying Okuda. I mean you can't rule them out I mean you have to feel like he feel good enough about the interior position. Where you're not really thinking about Derrick Brown? Maybe you get real outside the box with Isaiah Simmons which would be pretty cool especially early because for a guy who has multiple you know. Brian floor is like multiples. So I don't know it's such a with two Out there it becomes such a wide open conversation that it's almost madman. Yeah Yeah I mean. We sure aren't considering hopefully herber at that point. Because who he he did not look good versus Wisconsin. Can we talk about can talk about that for a second because you hear what three touchdowns on the ground yesterday. But I mean his his big selling point is he's got this big great arms to throw the football and he looked like shit throwing the football. Yeah I just I WANNA buy into him and I I watch after yesterday's game with an open mind thinking you know we'll see what happens. He's going against per a decent defense. That's well coached. My Voice Center has some guys who are fringe. NFL Dude's pretty much every year. And then you you'll get the occasional dude who just goes over the top like a T.. J. Watt snow so I was interested to see what what happens. He just seemed blocked on his. I read the whole game that pick up. Blitzing linebacker was painful. Absolute those who stand born. Yeah Yeah like like the dudes right in your face and like you are a locked into that one receiver like I totally totally get that. Some players have a one receiver read but like you gotTa have enough football perception intelligence. That like when that read. Isn't there you're either D two Eat the sack or you need to figure out a way to get rid of the ball and just move onto the next play like can't do that though now now it I came away from it yesterday. Just not feeling that dude. Now I tried but You mentioned that he you know. Coaching is probably part of the problem. It's a culprit in what's going on with him but I don't no no like yeah. He's got a big arm. But you compare what he did to how how Fast Trevor Lawrence Scans the field like. When he was playing Ohio state on Saturday tonight and I love how decisive that guy is you know like when he goes ahead and he finds he finds the Going through his readers progressions when he finds his guy I mean he is just he says speed and he just unloads so the maddening. Part about herber is that one. He's been there for four years. Unlike the growth and progression just hasn't really happened and what's crazy about. That is like he just wants scholar athlete the of the year for college football like he that supposedly. He's the smartest college football player in the country. You know in the classroom and like you're not smart enough and you don't know things well enough and you can't put things together. Well enough on the field to not make stupid turnovers House consistency. Yeah I WANNA like him. I'm Julian Weinberger hosted the impact a podcast from vox about how powerful the people affect the rest of us this season. 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These are the stories that will help us understand what might happen if these proposals get rolled out here in the next four years. Subscribe to the impact on Apple. PODCAST or your favorite podcast APP to get the first episode on Wednesday January eighth boy. I I don't know I'm just not really feeling it. I you know who I was feeling last night in terms of watching quarterback prospects jake from had some pop last night. He threw the ball. Wow Yeah I mean I think I think you got the upside Jake from game again. Can statistically not sexy I think it was a sixty percent night out. Two hundred fifty s yards two touchdowns. No turnovers took care of the ball. Did what he needed to do with a cast of no one The only guy that he had his That young receiver. That's really good for them On Yeah Yeah. He's awesome pickens Israeli good and I mean he essentially got most of his production through pickens. But like when that's all you got to tell you got Andrea Swift had one carry for two yards so like he threw the four dudes last night. He threw to tight end George pickens and Matt Landers Because that's all he had everybody else is dead or not playing or whatever not to mention. Both of his offensive tackles didn't play because they're going to draft So at the end of the day again I think I think from a good football player. I think there there will be a team. That really enjoy what he brings to the table stability wise leadership wise and hopefully somebody somebody recognizes that there's upside for him as a starter that isn't going to be the guy that that carries your team But if you have a Pieces of the puzzle. He can definitely get your team where it needs to go. If we punted twenty twenty one taking a quarterback and it comes down to you can take take to a or I mean you might have a chance I mean obviously none of this is assumed or just given you could have to. You could have server Lawrence. You could have just fields. Who would you take? They have two first round picks. So I'll take two of those three now but but seriously yeah now I mean it gets tough cause to as the definitive guy in this draft class. Even even with Joe Borough to the guy that I prefer I mean if the the risk for two is that he needs to get through next year without any injuries said because because if he gets one more entry like I don't even know of teams are going to touch him in the first round. So that's that's a huge risk for him there But at that point I mean I think I think you've gotta go. Lawrence Lawrence has been so good even when he had a funk like you know he had a rough start to this year he kept Clemson and Senate he brought him back. He put up still put up good numbers and then in their Their playoff game. He showed that he has the skill set in tools that no matter the the situation he can carry a team like he's shown that he could be a franchise type of Guy I think just feel to show you a lot of the same things But his knee was shot for that playoff game so yeah that ended up being a sprain. He Abbott still that knee. Brace was so big and bulky and he talked about how much he hated it. Oh I mean Lega to sprains. That's no no walk in the park. I would I don't know for some reason. I Hate Ohio. State budget watching Justin fields playing like ham. Did I love that. Guy's game It's GONNA be interesting year next year provided we punt on it and we just you know. We don't take in Herbert at five. I will say that that some of the throws Justin her remade yesterday. Were just that one was it was a to the H.. Back Yeah that guy just drive. Yep that Kurd. If if Wisconsin wasn't too busy dumping their pants and that game that could have been lethal. Because that was I think there was a third down. Throw that guy. Just outright just biff. So Oh I don't know. I wanted to like Justin Harvard so much and I I like. It's interesting there are some developmental guys in this draft. Who could they could be studs? They could be not studs and I mean you're talking about you know enjoying love's GonNa be on that list. Justin Herbert Easing season. Is Everyone. Apparently Alexa call. The thing is is for me like I guess. There's a chance that you have teams in the teens. In Tampa Bay in the raiders. That could take Jordan love but like if a team considering Justin Austin Herbert for the upside of the tools that he has Jordan love. Early has a lot of the same tools. But like you won't have to take him top ten unless you want to To like at least he's always had two or three years of really trying to play college football on put it together. Are there some things that you need to clean up. He's shown that he's been able to clean up. Some of it were just turned. Herbert's spent four years not improving in the department. said he needs to So I would rather take. I'd rather pass on just to her five easily. Shoot your shot at eighteen on Jordan love so I'm GonNa ask you some I'm GonNa put you on the spot and just ask you some rapid fire questions here. Just I know your your response to this is to end disgust. You're discussing via okay. So let's say you're making king the picket five. You could to be Chris greer all right now. We mentioned Judy's on the board. Is there any any way that did you just say in a way. I'm going best player available here and I'm just GONNA go pear. Gerry Judah with volunteer. Yeah I mean I think it see. I'd love love to say the same. It goes for CD LAMB or Jerry Judy. But I don't know if CD lamps compliment to to Parker as Jerry Judi will be because Jerry Judy can do some damage from the slot to It was it. What playoff game was it? Was it the Georgia one where he ran that that slot slug. Oh Oh and just annihilated. Jay read like a Gre. It's a pretty good safety. But like if if you're at five live and Jerry. Judy is the best guy near board. I have no problem with you go. BPA They're taking Jerry. Judy I think that was the SEC. Championship game last year. Wasn't I just I feel like I remember it being Georgia. Jr read getting toasted Gary and he he had a big game. I think against Oklahoma to if I recall correctly as he should because the guy is an absolute freak. I don't use that term often so all right. So and there's a reason why I mentioned Jerry Judy Nazi land. Because I agree with you. I think Jerry Judy is the perfect complement. The way he can he can play insider out the way. He's in your that sharp of a route runner. You're going to go ahead. You'RE GONNA take a lot of heat off off. The other guy on the other guy is devante Parker. WHO's coming career year? I like that okay. Next suppose you want to take an offensive tackle and all around the board. which guy would you take it? Five of I'm definitely not taking Jack Wills because that's a whole bunch of bullshit right there Cisco Oh yes stefan. I love some of the people out there on draft twitter and stuff. You know we were talking about the draft network guys. They do some good work. But I'll both guys that it ain't it So realistically at that point you're Talkin Andrew Thomas or Trista wirth's I I have to say Andrew Thomas I think if they're going spreading With Chan Gailey Trista. Worth's feels a little bit better with with athleticism there But I hate that whole the L.. Let's just move on the left tackle. It'll just magically happen UNLIKE THE EAGLES OF RUN A decently gently open system Again I keep competent Andrew Thomas to peters there while he's not the sexiest offensive tackle. He does everything really really well So again if if they're five and they just say we're GONNA get an offensive tackle. We're going to start building out the line that's fine with me. It's it's insane to me that that that trade that sent peters from Buffalo to Philadelphia was over ten years ago. Yeah and not only that. But he's still playing at a high level. She's just crazy. I mean like he's been hurt often. That's one thing but I mean I guess it's been an absolute warrior Kind of piggyback. This question onto what we just discussed discussed. Would you rather take an offensive tackle at five or roll the dice and take one at eighteen or perhaps even with the Houston pick. I think eighteen is going to be an ugly area. For Offensive Tackles I think I think you got your top two guys that are really hot with with Thomas And then I think the sweet spot starts kicking back around twenty five in that area I think Jake Wills is fine at that point. A guy that you're going to hear a lot of names about at this point because people are coming back around on him when they were high the summer on him as a Becton from Louisville he reminds me a lot of Orlando Brown coming out of Oklahoma which is super funny because People Bitch and complain. That Orlando Brown was too big again. Not Athletic enough when that man gave up like Zero Saxon his career at Oklahoma But he's been perfectly fine for Baltimore obviously That guy is the ultimate combine cautionary tale. As far as I'm concerned we said this at the time. And that I mean we're we're no prognosticators on this on the show for the most part outside of a couple of things but that all that dude did in Norman with just roll people literally all he did. Yeah and then. He goes to the combine. He's too fat his because what he he weighed in at a what three hours as we wait was up. I'm trying to remember. It was a big number. I think I think he I think he actually slipped down for the Cobb on. I think he came in at like three forty Gordy find a show like that. Let's see yeah combine. Wait six six eight three forty five and I'm sitting right now A kite becton is like three sixty or something like that. Oh that's big boy. Yeah what was going to zoos. Orlando Brown was he goes to the combine and then his forty time was Is Five something at five and a half fight. You might have been more. It was bad and people are just like all the and then he's quitting on the combines guys worthless. He's not going to be any good. And all is now is just an absolute wrecking crew in Baltimore. MCI Becton's way on Louisville's site is three sixty nine which is pretty nice but outside of that. It's not nice. Yeah that's So hopefully he drops a little bit because he carries it pretty well though. I don't know how much so you've seen him but like he carries it pretty well. I'm not. I'm certainly not advocating for the draft enormous guys but when when the tape says one thing and then one weekend and SPANDEX has another maybe maybe go the tape. Yeah Yeah I mean. Outside of those two guys are also going to be guys like Josh Jones from Houston now being consideration. He's he's pretty raw but he's he's got a great built. He six seven three ten. Three fifteen moves really well. an-and Austin Jackson from USC in other guys in that six five six six three fifteen. He's had a good year What about Alex Leatherwood but while we nod But I think at the day I think if you're targeting an offensive Lineman with eighteen or twenty five. It's one of those top tier centers to be honest or at least in my opinion I think they provide more value there. especially especially if you're looking to bring a young quarterback soon that you want to build that connection between them early you so you just eliminate those problems at the gate and then I think with that first pick in the second round. That's that's a really good place to start looking offensive tackle. I think that's also where it hurts finishing fifth because we also we're not making the fifth pick of the second round we have to wait for. We have party. Yeah so that hurts for sure and you have to figure they're going to be moving around anyway. Pleasure sure monopoly. Money Right. Now in terms of their draft picks. So we'll say hell I wouldn't be shocked depending on how the back end of the first round finishes up. I won't be shocked to see them. Take Four people in the first round if they really want to. I got a firepower to do it. If there's a guy that you want to take you know thirty thirty one thirty thirty two to get that fifth year option on You know say I mean hell say it say. There is a quarterbacks that they wanNA give a go on With questions questions on long long term you know a jalen hurts a jake from a safe love falls that far Had you want secure that fifth year option just indicates you get two years and you're like Holy Shit we hit it That could be an option or if they they don't use one of those first three picks on a running back and say you know what what we pick one of these top tier running backs we want to have the rights to him for five years and then move on from him. That's that's a look at two. We'll get to that 'cause actually one of my questions all right next one. Would you take Jeffrey. Oh could at five or would you wait for the eighteen for right now. It's twenty fifth tickets that one's subject to change though. And if you do wait for later pick who would would you take. Yeah I mean if I'm taking a corner and I'm really set on taken a corner If a KUDOS available at five I think that your your better bet. Ah I at eighteen and twenty five years. The the secretary of these corners of Christian Fulton Trayvon digs. Jalen Johnson Yeah. Cj Henderson You know there's a couple of guys Paulsen Paulsen Demo. Yeah Yeah I mean I don't really love any of those guys at eighteen or twenty five. I wouldn't be upset with any of them but I think eighteen or twenty five. If you're going defensive back there's GonNa be some safety guys there. That are much more worth it. So if you want a corner and Okuda Zehr five I think you shoot your shot there Otherwise I think you punt and I think this is a pretty good safety class where you can pick up a guy in the late second with that second round pick or the third round of or even on day three you never know I mean Nick. Data did play relatively well this year. If he was your number two corner next year that would be the most most painful thing can get him a better number though no now. He's got a racket trash number for the rest of his life. God I hate trash quarterback numbers in the forties and stuff. But like he's he like as a undrafted free agent you know he just needs to wear ugly numbers to remind. Some people thought forty one was pretty cool like when Byron Maxwell. Yeah we're wearing forty one acceptable. What's your least favorite defensive defensive back number though least favourite defensive back number I've wanted mind every time I see it. I'm like I hate this number. I think it would have to be forty six to be honest I just. I don't know most of the other forty numbers. I can get on board with the thirties. I I'm fine most of the time. That's a good safety number At a fine corner number but forty six is kinda ugly forty six forty eight and forty nine forty six thirty six or the numbers where I just every time. I see a defensive wearing them and I'm like God why I Tony made thirty six. Kinda cool I think. That was my issue when he was wearing. It was just like come on dude and in court you. I don't really see a lot of corners wearing numbers in the thirties. Now not any more to the twentieth. So the sexy where to go. They've always been the sexy numbers for corners. I think because like Lonnie Johnson rocks like thirty thirty two. And that's pretty cool. According to my favorite corner number ever since Al Harris I loved thirty one for just corners. That that's MAC yet. The line of scrimmage. Yeah like it was speaking to a corners where in thirty four thirty one and then Mike McKenzie were what thirty four. Yeah Yeah. Those guys are total hooligans. At the line of scrimmage and they did a good job and price always thirty four. Yup So there's that okay interesting my last question. Suppose you're gonNA take a running back. What pick it doesn't matter can be Texans? Pick they're all on the board. Who's your guy for a Chan Gailey L. E. type of system My my my running backs are going to sort through. I keep shifting. WHO's my favorite guy at this point but in a Chan Gailey system I think at that point my primary pick would be travesty? TNN I think he he reminds me a lot of of an Alvin. Kamara Kinda guy That definitely runs the ball with speed. Add One cut and go But also provides you a little more in the passing game. The most people will expect But at the same time I wouldn't be upset with the Andrea Swift at that point to He didn't get used on the passing game as much but he you can do it But the other the other two guys that are in that top tier I think are JK Dobbins and end. John's Taylor. John Taylor got miles on him. So that's GonNa be the big question when it comes to him security issues to which people don't really recognize and remember. He fumbled yesterday. It was a big one too. Okay I I think we should probably fold this on tonight and we can continue. 'cause I we're not gonNA talk draft too much more. I'm kidding that's all we're going to talk about the consumer lives before we do wrap it up. We got the news tonight about Zach. Thomas being a finalist for hall of fame finally. Yeah it's about time. Yeah I mean meanwhile the dude as the credentials. What seven time pro bowler five time first team? All PRO my Go-to Zach Thomas Story just in terms of like grown up so I remember. There's in my neighborhood. There's a kid who was probably four years older than me and he used to always make fun of me for being a dolphins fan and he always thought that like Dan Marino was like jackass and everything and then I remember I saw him one time a couple of years later. And he's wearing a dolphins hat and I was like hey nice hat. Yai Jaguars the hell. I thought you hated the dolphins and he's was like Nah Man. They have Zach Thomas. That guy's awesome and I was like That's that's what converts you as activists. That's awesome. I thought that was so interesting. That like literally literally just took them getting on an absolute second level hammer like Zach Thomas to go ahead and sway the student so there you go zach. ZAC should have been in there immediately. I don't know why he's been overlooked air. You know he's going to. He's going to go down in History Ustry as your classic undersized Middle Linebacker. They're not often built like that anymore. I mean Denzel Perryman sailing the only guy I can think of in the league whose linebacker under six feet I mean Bobby Wagner is right at six feet. They're just wanting always think he's taller taller than that. He's not he's a little guy too. But I mean Zach Thomas is fifth all-time for tackles It's Dan that's like individual. Joel tackles not even like total tackles right people forget. I think people do for that. He was defensive rookie of the year. Ninety six no man his first game. 'cause they opened the season against the Patriots that you're and who is that guy. He eventually became our wide receivers coach. Shawn Jefferson Yeah. Yeah Chanda Plan for the Patriots and I remember like Zach. Thomas just erased him on a play thinking like who in the hell. Is this guy because I remember watching connect game in thinking. Who is this dude? Yeah means essentially transition. Jack del Rio from playing to move into coaching coaching too. Yeah for sure because I mean Yeah del Rio was supposed to be the guy. Thomas shows about Texas tax. And it's like no. We're not gonNA need you. So and he knew it too so all right. Let's go ahead and call for two nine. Thank you to everyone for joining us and listen to US babble about draft stuff as we consider our twenty twenty. NFL DRAFT FANTASIA GONNA get weird if To Not a part of it will know Monday Eh. As to what's going on there so in the meantime my name is Keith for Zach things tuning in and we'll talk to you soon take care.

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Week 12 Buy or Sell + Triple Mailbag, Sneaky Tank

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Week 12 Buy or Sell + Triple Mailbag, Sneaky Tank

"This Dede Westbrook here with the Jacksonville. Jaguars and you're listening to the fantasy footballers podcast you go to the fantasy footballers podcast coming to you from Pristina. Auction Dot Com studios with your hose. Andy the Holloway. Chason more and Mike Right. Oh I could hear the echoes of football time. That's tomorrow I think it's I think we. Oh Gosh I only do it on Thursday. Oh man leave the people wanting I can't wait. Welcome in the fantasy footballers back again Wednesday November twentieth. Jason More Mike the Fantasy hitman right. I'm Andy Holloway welcoming you into the show by your cell today. The Thursday night preview some very important mailbag some news to get into. It's nearly playoff if time they did. And we're GONNA leave you in silence on that. To just think about the weight I would like to take a moment of silence. Yeah apparently for those who have not made the playoffs and for those of us that have very nice straight. Shh Oh did you hit the mute button again so soon faces let it happen all right before we get into buy or sell. WanNa remind mind you can find us on twitter at the F. F. ballers instagram dot com slash. Fantasy footballers if you want to follow Jason on Instagram or twitter he can do so at Jason. NFL You follow. Mike like an F F hit man. You can follow me at Andy. Holloway posted Posted this morning to lay the land wanted to. Here's some feedback on the show. We always want to make the show. The two most important things for us is that it is the most accurate show that helps you in your league and it's the most entertaining show and out there because you listening all the time and we want you to enjoy your life We played fantasy football to have fun. So we do this show and have fun just by also. Winning is fun despite what you may have thought about fantasy football yesterday. Yeah well it's good. It's good to be back America. I have come back to life. I hi no longer hate everyone. Everything I have moved on Bass Philip rivers I did a healthy Baxter punt him off the bridge situation on my roster and I'm I'm super excited for this show is to sleep recovery. It was needed to reboot needed to sleeps and I'm back. It was so bad that I thought there's a chance you would rebrand one of our two bathrooms here in the studio bad pictures in the mail. Okay all right because right. Now it's IT Jeff Fisher which I can't imagine he loo. It was the last time it happened. It was Greg Olsen. Yeah he did me wrong and I did him wrong. You really did very vindictive with my losses and fantasy all all right. Let's get in to buy or sell buy or sell presented by Pristine auction all right week eleven last week we did. AFC West addition. We did all right. I I suppose Keenan Allen he did top seventy yards Damian Williams one hundred total yards kind of unfair but also didn't seem like he was on his way but You guys both. He would've got there Sir Sir but I win and then Derek Carr top ten quarterback. He didn't get it was the QB twelve yeah yeah he was a QB twelve. which I believe I said he'd be top twelve top ten it although I did lose this week and on the back of the Philip Lindsay call all is the way that I see it. I was super happy that I bought Philip Lindsay because of his utilization. What finally happened this week with the Denver Broncos but the sixteen carries he's but the match up was too tough against the Minnesota Vikings? Yeah Darren Waller five catches what do you do now. What do you do at Dera Waller? I can't imagine not playing. But he's just he did. He had five receptions he had he was back to having a a solid game. That's fair he did drop a touchdown so I mean that sucks but he had had that opportunity where the play was exactly for him. It was executed perfectly except for the part. It always comes down to the details like like that Mike. Well with the fins fins flippers or they fins fins are osiander flippers. Like a the fish. Yes yeah yeah you know what I mean yeah all right. That's why shady fumbles all the time. Well yeah the slippery fish. I haven't said that nickname in a long time because he hasn't been very slippery. been a sticky fish water. All right bye sell for week twelve. Let's start with Calvin Ridley here. Is he going to finish as a top twelve wide receiver against Tampa Bay Week. Eleven last week was the first top twelve finish for him since week to finish as the wide receiver. Eight last week. Tampa is the juiciest of all match ups for white outs. I have to buy this Prequel Prequel to tomorrow show. Yeah I love Calvin Ridley this week. I do think the line is too high here. I'm going to sell similar to Derek Carr last week where I do like them but I I just don't think he cracks a top twelve. He'll be a great play though. Do you want to shoot your shot and say top fourteen but not twelve. I'M GONNA say top eighteen but not all right yeah. I'm going to sell as well just because the line is tough but and you're right that the matchup is about as juicy as comes on looking at the stream finder here though shocking. Talking to me you know who the second juiciest Mansur booze for for fantasy wide receivers the Minnesota Vikings. They've been so good to run fallen apart. Heart but Xavier Rhodes has been terrible. And there's only been a handful of times. He shadowed this year and those have been really bad for them. Those are like groundhog shadows. Yeah sometimes you see him. Sometimes you don't mess all right. I'm with you Marvin Jones. Tin Fantasy points against Washington. Marvin Jones has since week six six. Here's this fantasy finishes seventy third. I sixty fifth fifth twenty-ninth and now eighth. You are leaning on Driscoll skull which all on paper Arvin is not the worst thing to do. Washington is one of the best teams to stream quarterback against to the point. Where you you look at Driss going? You wonder if you could recommend him this week. But I want my by selling the hands of old driscoll. I mean even on his down weeks here when he was the water super twenty nine against Chicago he was still over this line. Only stay straight weeks of doing that. Yeah so what do you got what do you got. I'm going to buy Ah In for those if you are not fully paying attention. Marvin Jones currently outscoring Kenny. Golladay and a half point. Pr Scoring format a the surprising but yet just I'm just here stating the FACS. Yeah I will I will go and sell it. I'm going to sell Marvin Jones. Ten fantasy AC- points. I believe that you can run and pass against Washington they slow the total play countdown. If they can run against against them they will. It's the trick who's going to run the yeah. Bow Scarborough F- Now I'm going to sell it and I finished just below. I will sell it as well. Jarvis Harvest Landry Landry the touchdown the touchdown streak. Does it. Continue Against Miami. He scored a touchdown in Greece. Straight game revenge. Inge is a revenge game. But I'm going to buy this. I keep now. There's a complete narrative narrative here where it's like okay. There's the targets are still going to Odell Beckham like he's leading. You know you look at the last few games. He's getting more targets in Jarvis's services still producing for fantasy. The narrative is this week with a bad pass. Rush A poor secondary. They're going to actually be able to connect on those targets. And it's going to be an Auto Beckham game. I'm going to wait till I see that before. I say that Jarvis isn't the better fantasy producer. And so I'M GONNA say drives gets another touchdown. This week I think Baker is a great play stream of the week yesterday and he's his number one wide receiver. It's GonNa get another touchdown. Yeah Jarvis Landry is getting a monster target sure. Sure so I know they're both I'm going to buy it. I'M GONNA sell all right. Just because the odds of a touchdown come the games in a row Miami. Though it'd be nice matchup is all right. Curtis Samuel Willie received seven point five targets against New Orleans in do we care freaking Kyle. Keilan DJ Moore's liking it say more target share is way up there. He's at thirty percent over the last six weeks. Believe it or not by Curtis Samuel Not in there so I'll go ahead and sell. It occurred the the what's setting is the match up this past week. Now I know. The the Atlanta Falcons had a revolutionary meeting. Apparently with during the bye week because their entire team has has changed their defense looks incredible. They're sacking the quarterback like five times a week. The past couple of weeks again. They were averaging point nine. There's more than they were not before. But Curtis Samuel in that match of come through four for twenty five against the Falcons. I will the line here. Seven and a half targets unless sell it. I will sell as well while. I want to be. contrarian there's only been three games this year where he has been at eight or more targets despite the average being seven point eight because he's had a couple of monster. You know thirteen eleven targets. I think he ends up about seven. Hopkins is the target share lead over the last six weeks thirty five percent Beckham Twenty Seven Jarvis Twenty six. So they're both getting a their fair. Share seems like the Landry ones are probably higher probability targets targets so he's ending up the fancy play. This is a really really tough on L.. Is I wanted to get my answer out. I okay and loudly. Don't in the question I didn't want you to think I was following a it was gonna be Mike Right as a top ten analyst in fantasy. Sell Michael Gallup. Seventy five receiving yards against New England. We gotTA move this line. The lines battle eight. I have already sold. It's going to be three south. Don't just be via copycat patriots right now. I I'm afraid to play any wide receiver against them. My Michael Gallup forty five yards doc by forty five yards Michael Fifty fifty five yard got. It's gotta be the new line fifty five fifty five yards because that's a that's a good line to make you have to stop and think fifty five receiving I will sell it I will. I will all right. How do and we go tiebreaker? Forty yards I will buy forty yards So forty five. You said you would buy forty five forty five forty five forty five forty two forty four forty yard for the man with glasses. What are you I'm fifty oh all right so the line so said the low forty five sell Sell aren't that you could be. Okay See oh by forty the moral all of this story guys if we want to really drill it down or the people that were expecting Michael Gallup to receive between forty and fifty yards maximum in this game making a very look. It's hard to sit him. And not if Amari Cooper out how do you make that decision to sit him you think. Hey whoa boy boy gala bonded that stall no I you play. Are you playing Gallup. If Cooper's gone no I depends on options of course but preferably not it. It's in New England. Oh Oh no. It's just a very that being said. You know that Gertz had a very fine game. I mean being the number one target. Last week he had nine catches. You had a nice fantasy day still a very different player. Gallup has been fantastic and a DNA level. My I totally different. I think any size yes the season. He's been great. It's it's really just a matter of do you believe that deck and the cowboys can get it done against this great offense if you think they can get it done and you brought up Zac. Gertz people do score fantasy points. It's not like you can't start. Michael Gallup but Gilmore. I mean you say yeah. Well if Cooper's out is that actually good that actually galleons word. The New England patriots are famous for taking away. The number one option. That would leave Gallup as that number one option. It's almost like who has a better game here. Michael Gallup Randall COBB I. I don't know I'm tempted to say. Just because he's the third option on the team and they'll be like let's make Cobb beat us all right. Well he's look. Is it tough situation deciding. What upside you really have those players and that's what it comes down to? I'm not worried about him. Having a target share I'm worried about him having production so in the fifty five receiving yards not doesn't get me excited all right that was by herself from Pristine Auction. You can buy or sell. I can't use cell yes you can sell right you care. Yeah they do both both but we normally go buy some autographed sports memorabilia. But if you have some laying around I'm sure can all right pristine auction. Dot Com use the code ballers Talk News. News and notes from around. The League presented vice sleeper. All right Tyreek Hill. Big News tyree kills hamstring injury deemed minor after an MRI. He's got the bye week weekday today. I mean that's that's great. News is just seems like he could've got back out there for one pass. I'll tell you what I'll give you one point picked for that news. I will take it. Because Thursday point stat correction correction. You could give me a win and then David who has been designated to return from. IRA practicing today's eligible to play this week. I am wearing no pants. This is great great news designated for my pants are not now not designated to return on. I R look look. I'm picking up David in Tokyo. I am. I'm not playing him this week. Okay I want. My son is gone not eligible to return as they not designated to return which really based on our proximity. We are the ones that the most now I have very haphazard the stable I have have proven. I don't believe the foot clan knows this. You'RE GONNA share this. I'm going to share this because I said look I sit back behind the table. I that that could be wearing no pants. And you'd never know and Mike you're like there's no way I could know we did a Sirius. XM Live show. And I got. I got toast bands down and after the show we like. We were none the wiser. I did a whole hour. No pants and that's the same as right now David and joke off of our so again i. I'm picking him up. I am not starting him this week. I you know I'M I. He's been gone too long football shape. I'm GonNa say something they play Arizona Arizona and they play them in fifteen of the playoffs exactly and even if joke who has one bright light left on this season so pretty bright light right that week. Jason will be right it look. He's played basically one week. The see this year and he was the titan seven and then he gets injured and we can do and has been like like that sample but yes thank you but look the. Here's the schedule Miami okay. That's that's a great way to kick off Pittsburgh not so great Cincinnati Great Arizona in a great. I mean those were playoff weeks. Yeah I'm again. 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Take your Thursday night players out of the flex position put them into a running back wide receiver spots so that you have flexibility later in the week because who knows when Robert Woods will decide to skip a game gonna GonNa say that it. It came through this week. If you played your lineup optimally and you put the latest guys into the flex position and and Sunday night showed up and you had Robert Woods there. You can at least pivot to multiple position be stuck a lot of people that I saw pivoted bad necessity to Lesean McCoy right because you know he he was a guy that wasn't being used wasn't lineups and then he went out had a cellphone. Decent game all right. Let's look at this. This one colts Texans both teams six and four divisional match up Thursday night game. Houston three and a half point favorites forty five and a half point over under you. Look into Shawn Watson in this matchup. He's coming off the worst game of the season every time he's done that he's had a very big game following however this is a divisional match up in the the last time you played the colts he was around the twenty point mark. So while. I like Watson and why you'd never bench him. I don't expect them to go off against the Indianapolis Indianapolis Colts. There are pretty strong defense thirteenth against fancy quarterbacks six against running backs it's going to fall into Shawn Watson shoulders in this game I I don't expect Carlos Hyde and do Johnson to be able to you know. Move the offense down the field against this colts defense. So where are your expectations with the quarterback quarterback playing this game. Yeah I think both are are good options. Obviously you're going to start Shawn Watson as far as what my expectation is. I do think he has a very big game game. You've seen him when he comes off a bad game that he works extra hard. I mean genuinely like I remember his last really bad game. He stayed at the stadium. Four hours basically shut the stadium down because he was so upset with himself. This is who he is so I think he comes back and has a good game. PERSET has shown himself to be every bit a bit good enough to compete in the NFL and for fantasy purposes. Look he just gets touchdowns I mean. He's not a huge yardage guy but he's been very efficient. He can rush touchdowns as well so you know like hurry them along like really Russia. Hurry up get touchdown already. He was the QB for the last time he in Houston. Yeah three twenty. Six and four wasn't home though it would be nice. It must be nice to have T. Y.. Hilton in this game for. Kobe Said said it would be nice but the nice thing with some questionable situations is that you get the advantage of Thursday night right. Well Fuller Game Gametime decision. Ty Hilden didn't practice. Tuesday doesn't need to practice to play a game time decision. Would you put him right into your lineup. And maybe I'll find some options options for you until you compare it to Eileen that I would what about him versus Devante Parker. Who's been on me? But Hilton is is obviously an upper echelon guy when he's play again TAKES ON YEAH CLEVELAND Browns in Cleveland I would. I would be playing Parker there. Yeah I believe I'd go Parker okay what about moving into a robber woods. Would you play. I would play T. Y.. Hilton Robert Woods and his personal issue and Muhammad. It's a new then against Dallas. That's a good one mom to new or would you just go Hilton. I think I'd go by Hilton. That's where I lean is. Yeah de que madcap go mad cow. I would go Hilton. Bill this is this is a good example of saying okay when when a star is coming back off an injury sometimes you have to play him when a good quality option is coming off of an injury. So you don't and that'll be Willfuller. I can't imagine that's not the same game. Yeah he can't go out there. Catch a deep bomb Dutch down but he hasn't done much this year. He's coming off of an injury that he pretty much always re aggravates them reenters his injuries. I there's no way I would touch will fuller in this game. I agree with you on that. Here's a fun fact. Coulter actually six. Oh in in one against the spread versus Houston in their last seven games this is for the. AFC South Division. I would take the colts in the points in this one myself. Wow Wow wow. That was so then. Why wears drop? Well I thought about it but people are so used to hearing on Thursday Friday. Didn't know if it was like you know Y- aren't you. Yeah I I don't have the drop. Oh all right. I don't have it now. Ah this drop. Thank you for Jacoby beef brisket. Naim hines Jonathan Williams Jordan. Wilkins Jordan Wilkins returned to a limited practice. On on Tuesday his status today will be huge. Yes if he if he's limited that we still have no idea eh who will be between him and Jonathan Williams. The fact that he's limit on Tuesday I would expect them to be at least be active but he's a full participant. Ah between him and Jonathan Williams man I I just don't have confidence anti if Wilkins's full practice today. Do you still have your Jonathan Williams. I do and and I look. It is every time during the year good or bad. You've gotta feeling about a player. Based on performance. Last week he had a monstrous on strong performance. Eight point nine to carry on a ton of Carey's the coaches like him. My confidence is with Jonathan Williams. Tonight letting it go. Even if Wilkins Zach I will say this in in our League of record I am the MAC owner so this is a devastating loss for me in my playoff push and I had to. I had to take a deep dive last night. Really wanted to try to get this right. In my opinion I was swayed by reading and seeing. What the coaches had been saying about? What's happening on the practice squad for a while? The only Jonathan Williams was actually only active for this game. Because Wilkins was injured right but they were saying. He's just been unbelievable unbelievable in practice all season while he's been a colt he's been great so I think Jonathan Williams has himself a really good game. Here you're security. That's just where I would put my chips. If I have to play a colts running back I put it on Jonathan Williams. But there's no security in this game and there's GonNa be Korea distribution of carries across whoever's active. I found the button. Andy's almost oh stop set of the week. All right. What about Carlos High Duke? Johnson I will play both of them. Carlo side continues to see the ball. A ton is averaging nearly seventeen opportunities a game. Because they're at home. You like the Vegas Line in no it. Just he's a running back who gets opportunities like seventeen opportunities a game usually leads to usable fantasy production. I agree on the Hyde side. I don't think I agree on the duke side. Yeah I'm I'm not excited about either of them. I mean the reality is Indianapolis has been very good against the run there. The sixth best as far as fantasy points given up against the running back position Carlos Hyde has been surprisingly good. You know he was the running back eighteen last week. His previous games the runningback sixteen ecksteen. That's that's a startle asset. But that's not a must play guy and when you're in a tough match-up that I expect to be high. I would would take over on this game. Which is rare for me on a Thursday night game But if that happens then you would see more duke presumably then hide and I'm not really loving either of them are Indianapolis does have the highest pass rate inside the ten yard line this year. This is what we're talking about with perset ending. Up with good touchdown totals Hebron last week. This disappointing didn't practice Tuesday doyle who had three consecutive consecutive solid weeks goose. Not just like I a few bad targets. We're talking zero target. Goose for Jack. Doyle and then Durham fells. Let people down as well so the titans are kind of. Who are you forgiving? Willing to play this week or is it none of them. I look I mean I. I think it's both of them. lebronettes doyle I think are both start table assets once you pass those top eight quarterbacks even off of the goose it's shocking that he didn't get a target but he's still out there. He's you know he was out there on sixty five percent of snaps. And you go back. The previous week's touchdown in each of the week before for oil Four for sixty one the week before that but compare them to the the the waiver and I say I think I would take all of those guys the Godart Hollister Fan Griffin. Yeah take all those over Dole yes griffin hollister and got her. I would play over Dole or Hebron yeah I I think it's too much risk for me man. It's too much. That goose is too much risk the shared snaps. I want them. It's tough it's tough. You also didn't have reset. I mean you never set for the last game that he ghost either but what does it make a difference to you of active for that for that prescription now really. What'd you play Noah? FANT WHO's his target's share is absolutely absolutely incredible since sanders has gone but he's got the matchup against buffalo so Jay. Would you play fant over one of the colts I would not I would I would I would I would. Yeah Yeah. Maybe we should bet that one. I'm not going to bet on these guys. who whoever gets a touchdown wins? The Bet and you know trying to predict those is is bad. The only reason. I wouldn't bet on fant Evan targets. Last week I get it and wait for who knows fan. And he finished as the tight end nineteen he was four for sixty with the red zone. Target in the game. Wasn't that bad. Sure I'm just saying eleven targets Jag. Abbas we all come on the one we examined it gives zero one week sample. I've always career of Jack Doyle being involved in an offense. We'll probably just play Philip rivers if I know. I'm going away from a career where there has been how many how many top twelve performances in the career of Noah Fan. Have there been well. He's a rookie one one. I'm just just saying you WANNA talk sample size I can. I can be dumped to just love here in Utah. Positively about Jack. Doyle Noah could baby can jump over Jagd oil and his baby beheads that is probably more and more yes involved. All Right Hopkins highest target. Sure over the last month he's going to be in your lineup. And if you are desperate desperate if fuller's out you go with stills because of the snap count but it really hasn't manifested into production. Yes when they played you know Indianapolis in week seven. I believe leave us. Four for one zero five. But it just hasn't come to fruition yet. He seems very scary to play. Indianapolis beat Houston thirty to twenty three. The last time they played it was at home in our art it was in Indianapolis and the other takeaways from his game. Not really want to get into all right. Let's do it MAILBAG him some little different about that. Mike it wasn't going to slightly lightly different rain. I my throat hurts horrifically bad oh really yes. Oh I'm playing injured and I I didn't tell anyone don't tell the NFL. It's better better that you didn't because we might have. Had you not do it and that would have been worse for our listeners. Oh you should have heard Jason warming up before the show. He thought he could do it. Like a like a Frank Frank Sinatra. Now do it do it okay. MAILBAG BED EH. That was more. Elvis was that was pretty rotten. Yeah now is the new place. This is the way I knew. I understand With the with the beat-up voice but I'm really glad you on the line. Then you still subjected the listeners to that well I think you can do better mail bag all right if you have a question for the fantasy football or you're still listening visiting head to the website. The fantasy football dot com. Click the submit a question button. You can also dial our voicemail hotline three zero two four six four T. F. F. B. Keep them short brief. Keep them concise to the point and we'll get to him on the show. Let's start with an instagram question from Andrew Pot. Seventeen do you prefer total points. Four or head to head record as a tiebreaker for playoff seeding I prefer total points four. I think that That is the best indication of who was the better team on the season You know I in the NFL. I think they would do that if they only played offense but they don't. We don't play defense so I know a lot of arguments while the NFL does it this way. They can't. They can't do it the way that we can do and fantasy so I think point four's best tiebreaker. I agree I understand like if you miss out on the playoffs to a team that you beat head to head that kind of stinks. But you're looking at the season long teams better. I I agree with you. Total points voicemail question ballers Steve primarily member the foot clan and Dan Spit Wi calling today with A. Would you rather questions this week and the rest of the season. Would you rather start Devante Parker with magic as his quarterback or Alan Robinson with either Jason's favorite Mitch trubisky or possibly Chase Daniel in the ball. Does congrats Grab Brooks on the engagement Brooks so. Let's see is a fiancee now. All say no on say all right. I'm going devante Parker no question. I'm going to Bhante Parker if you're talking about you're going to on tape Parker. If you're talking rest of season I think devante Parker has a great schedule. The he's been far more consistent. He's got the better quarterback play. Yada Yada Yada I mean higher baseline I agree. I am on record saying that. I believe that that I loved the Monte Miss. You are on record this week. I am more inclined to play Allen Robinson The New York giants is a great match up. I think there's been so much made of the trubisky situation. They're going to try to get him involved. And I. It's not like he's been bad had like he's had Allen Rob this yeah okay no trubisky's has been and is the worst but Alan Robinson has had plenty of good games this season. It doesn't he had had to to real stinkers in a row or something like that. Yeah Allen Robinson has had so three of his last four games have been poured. They've they've been games four for ago. It was not the worst but two of the last three have been terrible. That being said he's also got plenty of games inside the top twenty fourth position. So it's just a matter of okay the match ups great. You didn't you didn't like them against the Los Angeles Rams last week with Jalen Ramsey. You didn't like him against the Los Angeles chargers a couple of weeks ago. with Why do I always want to? I always want to say it's careless but yes casey those were tough match ups for him. The New York giants. This is a good match around Robinson Cleveland but if you have to If you have to just decide one now for Parker going Parker as well Parker schedule coming up as Cleveland Philly. The jets the giants cincy. That's the championship week. I mean I think he's Loo doc passing volume matters. I think we all think Alan Robinson's a great wide receiver. Probably better than Devante. Parker is but I am fairly confident at some point. I think it was like week three there were there was like a quick question that was. Will you ever start a Miami Dolphin this year and fantasy football. That was a legit Gitte question. We were asking. Yeah now. They've won two of the last three years. I wonder going back if we made mention of. If it's Patrick takes over maybe then we'll start them. Watch because that feels like what would have happened Here's the scary question. Followers in Brooks love the. Show this randy from Virginia calling. I just had a quick question so I'm walked into my play off right now but I'm curious. Is it wrong long to openly tank for playoff positioning. I probably can't get a buy in my team and my week. Thirteen is already eliminated from playoff. I just wanted to get your thoughts on that. Thanks Yeah I get it I get been there you look at it the bracket the CNN going. Oh Man if I lose this game. I'm GonNa have a much easier run at the playoffs. It's wrong it is. So here's how it's wrong you. The the question was. Is it wrong to openly tank and it always is you have to be slapped added like ooh. I don't really believe this is the better match. Add up I mean you can't just put garbage players can't leave your roster on fielded but you are making a choice as to play. They don't know what you're thinking behind the scene go with with real high variance writers. I think you guys are right. I mean you can't get on the high horse and say that you're going to do everything for the integrity courtesy of the entire league in every circumstance without you know it's disingenuous to your own team's chances and if you believe that your team gets better by losing a match up. It's hard hard to resist that human nature aspect of it. I've seen professional teams. Do this right. It's difficult and fantasy because somebody you have to realize somebody else is GONNA pay the price price for what you do. Somebody else will miss the playoffs. Somebody else will miss their seating based on the fact that you're making a decision about your team and that's where the balancing act is awesome. That's what I miss the playoffs. When I put my best team in there and kick them out I mean? It's hard because you can't you. You have to draw a line in the sand. Yes and if you don't draw the line in the sand it leads to problems for your league for example. What's to say you don't get a question about it's in my best interest to drop good players because they they will get picked up by another team? That will beat an opponent that I need to have beaten. That's in the best interest of your team but then you're damaging the integrity of the League there too right. It's a slippery slope. I if I drop players so mike can pick them up to beat Jason because I want to make the playoffs over Jason. That's the same logic but that infers you know kind of like a one sided collusion and were two teams are working together to beat one team. That's always going to be wrong. The line in the sand to me is obviously collusion is a clear line in the sand. Two teams cannot work together to beat a team. You know and then the other line in the sand and I think this should be a rule in all leagues. Is You have to field a legitimate legitimate roster that you can't leave people off your roster You know and be like Oh. I'm benching my team. That would be objectively wrong I think as long as you're playing guys I it's it's hard to say that playing a sub optimal chance to win is the wrong thing to do. If if it's it's the right thing for your team now having said all that it's real easy to look at the match up coming ahead and then you screwed the pooch on your process and now you've put put yourself up against the team who blows you and you didn't think you could miss the playoffs but all those other team yet one and the new law. How would you feel this week? Jason because you are in in our league record tied with two other people you have more points. You're in the playoffs. How would you feel if one of those other teams that to the the opponent and you needed to have defeated? Here's the thing here's the thing I wouldn't know because I'm not talking about. You would know you would have that matchup. UNDRAFTED played Michael Gallup over Michael Thomas. No I'm you know that's that would be where you know. It's it's you look over. And they got a bench just full of points. But that's the that's I'm just I'm just illustrating the two cited acquaintance. Get what you're saying. If you've got Michael Gallup and Calvin Ridley. You could make the argument you know. Look Gallup's certainly certainly hotter than Alvin Ridley and I'm GONNA choose to put him in. You are winking throughout your lineup process this week all right. Patty ice eight on on instagram. How would you handle it? If you're commission changed the playoff tiebreaker without consulting rest of the league the main issue being the tiebreaker is now significant in his favor. This is garbage. Oh Get out the league is that is down the toilet. Look thank you you. You can't change it's along. You cannot change the rules of the middle the middle of the outgoing woman. You can't change any rules in the middle of the season without one hundred percent. Vote right from the League in if you want to change things for next year. Also you need to vote for me is. That's more like a seventy five percent for a a change in rules or any kind of structure for right now. You need one hundred percent of the people to agree well. Here's the thing it's ridiculous here. Here's the thing that's that's true in our leagues. We put everything to our leagues and I would say the majority Jordy people out to put things to a consensus vote and certain rule changes need one hundred percent certain need a majority Yada Yada Yada there leagues where the Commissioner just decides and I think that is okay but even in those leagues you cannot change a rule for thus this current season in the middle of this current season people have drafted. A certain favors offers him his outweigh and is ridiculous. I mean please play this for him and if he has no shame please exit yes he either needs to undo the liberal or everyone should leave the leap right. Right mill midseason yeah. It is a boycott Sich boycott Sich as as I always say all right. Andrew Dry from facebook says Ravens or forty niners defense for the fantasy football ball playoff ravens. This sounds like a great use for our strength of schedule tool we just put up. Yeah that's not bad the ravens the ravens the Ravens play in Buffalo in Cleveland and at home against the jets. I'm less confident than you too about the ravens defense because of the two road games Buffalo and Cleveland could both put up. Some points doesn't mean they're bad playoff d. I chose to let them go in in a league. I picked him up. And you did pick them up Who are the forty niners matchups? Though they would be playing the saints Atlanta Falcons and the rain. I mean between in those two. It's clearly Baltimore. I the rams since since the RAMS have one they've gone healthier and then the trade for Mark Peters Have Ravens. Yeah I apologize the the Ravens since the ravens have acquired Marcus Peters they are completely different like their outstanding. Marcus Peters is has changed everything for what they can end. Jimmy Smith is back right. Yeah so with him and Mardasson. This is just been such a good defense so much so that look look fourth fourth second fourth the last four weeks. Yeah I mean we don't always make a super early We're not even finished just with the current week of games waterbed for the following week but when we do. Mistakes are often made I. I made a top fifteen waterbed. Ah with Jerry. God I did and the more that I looked into the ravens has lived. I glad I tried to make you look into it. Live no oh by Gillette. I was reading their finishing. I want I gotta I gotTa be honest with the focus of our. Our job here is to make sure people put their best foot forward. Jared Goff my current quarterback twenty. Yeah it's putting your best part forward. Yes shared off the Ravens. I the ravens have been a really really good defense. I I mean look at the I mean. Would you say the Shawn Watson and the Houston. Texans are a really good often. Have Lord. Yeah of course. How did they do against Baltimore? New England dude. They finished fourth against. It's New England to. Yeah so I would. I would definitely say the Baltimore Ravens Dancer and I'm glad you dropped me Andy but it won't matter because filters and I won't make boils we're back baby all right. Let's go to another voicemail question. What's up footballers? This is mark from Washington state. Quick question for you redraft really happy are who would you rather have rest of the season lengthened for me. Please devante Parker Tyrel Williams and Mike Williams thank you so much of the show you said them in the order that I would vote them on. Tyrel Yeah Mike. Wow man what a world for Devante Parker it is the world we live in there. I asked Brooks and we'll save. Save it for tomorrow. But tomorrow's quick questions going to be billed the build the roster of players. That will be the surprise league winners and we'll have have the opportunity of naming them and you've might you've been we've been saying this for Awhile Parker's on that list. He's going to be one of the White House of that because of the schedule because of the emergence of Parker as the target share leader. And you're GONNA have the variable of Ryan Fitzpatrick either being hurt or turner turnover in his way to the a binge but right now with him on the field. How much does that change? If Josh Rosen takes over Woah Argos from the front of the list to the back of the list and not not even on the list. If Josh Rosen is the quarterback he'd on he's off my roster I will. There's no reason to play him. Would he considered just retiring. That'd be the ultimate Samat. Leave the league with the Commissioner of you makes a bad move if the team. Just put Josh Rosen and Parker. I am announcing a young guy. You can you could unretire after a CD. I will say this. I do think tyrel Williams is close here. I don't sure that's an easy. Mike Williams's Williams's third but tyrone Williams had a lot of good games. Yeah upcoming schedule. The next two weeks is the jets and the chiefs. So you know I. I think I'd like both of those players all right instagram question. Do you believe Joe Mixon. This is from Zach Damien Eighty. Do you believe Joe Mixing can keep up his recent fantasy production. Just I think his fancy production Now that's not to say he's going to get a touchdown in every game so you'll be a little bit disappointed but his volume will stay. The talent isn't going away so let's have a good day. I would say the last four or five. Thank you for rhyming. Last four or five games have really been a boon to the. Aw the psychology of all. who own him? INNKEEPER in Dynasty Leagues. Let's put a shower because the quarterback situations not good. The team situations not good in yet. He's been productive. Sure seems like they're going to have their pick of quarterback next year. Yeah and we've got variables on that front now so it's going to be whether it stinks. It's going to be very very interesting. Did you know the mega done is one week. One week away seven days from now for off. Aw Very nice the mega done show one week away brooks. Are you ready. No no you're not. You're not ready for that. Is the right answer. No one has ever been ready ready for the Medical Don. Not even us. We'll come. I have been drinking Five thirst busters a day. Wow that's the prep mound. Do you got a prep that prepare. Prepare that bladder moon for rapid. Oh yeah no expansion. Miami's you're stretching out your bladder Thursday buster so that you can endure along show. Yes I see. 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The BlowHole Episode 5: The Defense Strikes Out

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The BlowHole Episode 5: The Defense Strikes Out

"What if all you're breaking news alerts had a voice what would that sound like it would sound like today? Explain its daily news podcast from vox. I'm Sean Ramos grim every day my team, and I take one essential news story, politics, two movies sports science, and we break it down into twenty minute episodes. Perfect for your ride home subscribed today. Explain on apple podcasts or wherever you listen from Stitcher, and the vox media podcast network. Happy Tuesday, everybody. You are listening to the blowhole on inside a radio with finkle and Einhorn coming early this week. That's what she said do to the dolphins playing on Thursday, which is our usual slot Tuesday. Thursday. It doesn't matter Finkelstein horrid are still missing so filling in again, our myself, James radio, and my buddy, rob Pat story, aka rob casts. What the hell's going on, man? Not too much feel a little weird doing this on a Tuesday. Tuesdays are weird as it's strange. I don't know if I like it. You know what I do like? These delicious Florida hard seltzer from three dollars brewing, right down the street. This is not a paid advertisement. No. They're really good though, anybody that lives in the area should definitely pick one up three daughters. Yeah. Delicious. All right. So Tuesday night man weird with it. I'm not in mode yet low it's sort of like a couple of years ago when Thursday nights became the norm. And you're like, I'm not ready to set my lineups and fantasy yet. That's like my Friday Saturday thing. And now and now you have to do that stuff all earlier in the week. Well, this is throwing me off. I don't like playing on Thursday much like the dolphins. Don't like play Thursday. We are. We are going to be. Yeah. This is not going to be before ward. This is going to be a really crappy podcast. So playing a team. They can't beat on a day. They can't win on. Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah. This is good. The we haven't we haven't been this pessimistic about dolphins game since they played the bear. It's probably because it's really really close to a loss. Also, this is also very close to the to the loss. I'm still pretty pretty upset about something. I mean, I thought they were going to lose the way they lost a lot different than what I thought was going to happen. I figured the lines were. I'm gonna throw all over them. It didn't really matter. The lines did throw all over them. But basically, they ran all over. Then that was that was the big problem. But they were when they did throw. They didn't have a problem throwing either. That is true. They did they did what they wanted. I mean when they wanted we shut down their wide receivers some guy some tight end name Roberts. I never heard of like God all touched got three three catches for two touchdowns when they through to the wide receivers. The I know I know I'm I'm I'm talking I'm heavily invested in their receivers. It did not produce. And I was fine with that. Except for that's supposed to come in a loss. Yeah. They made carry on Johnson looked like Eric Dickerson. Although I probably would've looked like Eric Dickerson runs through those gigantic holes that were warping speaking of more like him now. Yeah. That's cool. I'll take that sounds good. But seriously that was ridiculous like. There have been some fury. Aiding dolphins games that I've seen in my life. But that was that was just it was just an. I'm not talking in a Xs and os kind of thing. But they obviously like sold out to stop those three receivers because they, you know, and they it must've left wide open holes. Because that's what we saw. I. Yeah. It was. It was not fun to watch. I mean, it did entity no matter who's back there. When blunt was back there. He was he was gashing them for nine yards at a time as well. We're his final final numbers that good because he ever anytime. We stuff somebody. It was blunt. I think we we did stuff Johnson like once or twice as well. It just it was it didn't matter. They did whatever they wanted when they wanted. So what was surprising was how well Brock Osweiler looked. That was not surprising to me. I was very very surprising to me. He was very very competent. I was thinking they were going to have a hard time moving the ball given that the lines would have had a week two game plan for Brock. But no, he looked like I mean, he looked like I guess the guy that played well enough. No, he did not play well enough to get the contract that he got. But played no thought of as they started quarterback in the NFL. Starting quarterback in the NFL. He can run this offense running this offense got him that contract when he when he when he when he was with gas. Here's here's my. Here's this big this big revelation that I that I just clicked in my head. And it so we don't think Brock Osweiler is a great quarterback. He's not a great quarterback is he a good quarterback. I'm starting to wonder if he can be a good quarterback. So I'm starting to think. This is this won't come as a shock to many people. I'm not thinking ten hills that good. I'm just thinking that this this when this offense clicks your mediocre quarterback can can succeed. And I think that's all we haven't had a hill is a mediocre quarterback. I think Tanta hills tannahill is played at the at the level that Osweiler has played at the last two weeks. And I think he's better than us. Right. I'm not sitting here say, oh, I'm just saying that this is all his success from two years ago, and the little success these add this year, which is you know, which isn't a lot. It's a scheme. That's I mean, everybody wants to blast people. Oh, he's a scheme quarterback scheme quarterback tunnels thirty. And he's a scheme quarterback that throw that Osweiler made to amendola was that was not scheme that was that was your natural talent. Nobody gets to this level without some talent. It's no, it's crazy. When when you're when you're talents measured against right. The five best people in the world who agree that job. It's a little skewed. But even even these these practice squad guys in these third string guys there among the point. Oh one percent of best quarterbacks on the planet. So they're not. It's not like your you back there. Like, we we like to say, well, it was go. But I mean, they can you know, they don't suck. They're just not as good as thirty other people doing the job, correct? Yeah. And as as infuriating as it was to watch carry on Johnson Garrett blunt and the lions entire offense just run up and down the field all afternoon. The most disheartening thing that happened was the Albert Wilson injury. Can we agree on that? Yes. That's like that's like that's like being a dolphin fan in a nutshell. Right. There is like the you have this exciting. Awesome new player that clearly is a weapon a force to be reckoned with on this offense in the league. Just in general like he was starting to make a name for himself. It's December twenty six and I just broke my Christmas present. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And that's what being dolphins fan is like so I mean who knows I mean, it's obviously today the the news came out that he's most likely to be placed on I r doesn't need surgery. They're saying doesn't need surgery. But it's and the hip and he's going to need time to. To you know, an hit year hip, and you just you freak out like BoJ axon. Exactly. And also. Yeah. And now it's like I just I mean his whole career and like his whole like I mean, his whole skill set is based on how shifty and fast. He is. And now to have, you know, I don't know much about hip injuries. But I don't know. I know you need your hips to be able to do those things. Yes. So also need them to. Tell lives. No, hips, don't lie. Sorry. I take that bag is that is that like an old is that like an old person saying now, it's a Shakira saying, oh, well, she's kind of old oh come on. Come on now. But yeah, so that was honestly that was the worst part of of of Sunday also steals getting hurt because I really like stills as well. I think everybody likes. Well. I mean, that's because we were literally down to two wide receivers. Plus he was hard on the blast. Like a I mean, they were technically I guess kind of still in the game. But yeah, you hate to see that happen. And now he's out for sure on Thursday. Hopefully, hopefully, they got him back, man. I don't think he's pointing Thursday. He's no he's not playing Thursday. I'm saying hopefully the following week. Sorry. So now devante Parker has to play. He has to play. Boy, what an awkward room that's going to be. Hey, buddy. Well, actually, have you seen some of the things that he said that Parker said this week. I actually think that he's less than I actually saw was his his agent, ripping gates as being incompetent. I know. They Parker came Parker said he doesn't feel that way. And like it was like the his agent is a grown man, and he's going to say what he wants. But he loves his coach, and he doesn't, you know? He doesn't have anything against him. And I I mean, I mean, it's this stuff you have to say now because there are some knuckleheads in this league. That would be like, you know, I don't see somebody like that towing that line. If this was if you go heads in the league, wait, what does Bryant's not Maliki? Right. Well, that's what I'm saying things like that. I couldn't see Jarvis. If can you imagine what would Jarvis Landy would have said a few is in a similar situation. I don't imagine Jarvis getting in that situation. Probably because he tries. So I mean, so are we are we over this? Are we over the game where we already talking what they're going forward? You only want to. We're not there's nothing left to talk about this lion. I mean what else? Do you want to say? It was it was really really frustrating. I mean, that the positives. Kenyan Drake looked he had a very nice touchdown run. Osweiler looks competent. And I'm totally fine with him running the offense until tannahill gets right? I'm concerned about the wide receiver position moving forward. So you're going to go into Thursday night with Jackie grant, Danny amendola. Devante Parker and either Isaiah Ford early ought to Karoo off the practice squad. Maybe both of them are calling it up. I don't know we still have Karoo. Yeah. He's on the practice sign with somebody else. No. They both made the trip to to Houston. But they haven't announced which one of them are going to be active. They could be both of them you better. I hope of them giving them. Yeah. I mean amendola is kind of fragile. So and we know amendola is going to become probably target monster here because he's he's your third down guy and the like. Osweiler. He has he has his targets have been up. They've been like eight eight targets. Listen any likes him and like in so Trump and trying to play. Trying to play the optimistic here. Jiechi grant console. He will slide into the Wilson role. He's not Wilson. But he's fast. I like, grandma too. I like both of them on the field at the same time. Yes. But I think, but but I think but grant is the same style of players Wilson. Yeah. Parker's similar is same style is still as far as he's a bigger. He's he's a bigger player, but can take can do those outside. Yeah. Kind of things you want them to do. So we have replacements. I don't know if we have, you know, I don't know what that means yet. So it's kind of taken this hard line that he's taken with Parker in the past with other players with really good results. If we all remember in two thousand sixteen he refused to play JJ and a guy pouted any left him, home and left him off the active roster. We got killed. We did know that we we almost won that game in Seattle losing is getting killed who's in London. Right. What it was that was week one? It was very first game. Didn't what what was the game? He didn't even bring him the London. I don't I don't remember my making that up you're making your your Razi. I am crazy. Oh, man. This things are getting weird. Let's use day night everybody. It's the London games are in. And so anyway, I was trying to draw the correlation between what happened to a giant a couple years ago and what's happening to partner now. So it's possible. Oh, my it's harder to come out. And just be a monster. Like Jiwa is your shoulder. Okay. Why? Because I was a crazy reach. I was actually looking at my shoulder. Like, what the hell are you? John McCall, Dr Andrews for you. Well, I mean, isn't that crazy a reach. I mean, he's tried this tactic before. And. Yeah. But I mean, let's see at work. Maybe who knows if it doesn't difference is. Okay. Here's the thing. We had to play out of necessity as well because foster was hurt. Right. So that's the only reason Jay got in. So so if it works, he's a genius. But he's also an idiot for not doing it sooner than waiting till week seven or eight what we I'm old. I will be super happy. If Parker goes crazy, and they start winning games, wouldn't you? Yes. I would be happy. But he wouldn't have been useful in the game last week. They were one in four when I went crazy. So anyway, there are some similarities there, I mean, obviously, I don't think that's going to happen. But I mean, he's going to have to throw them. All parker. I just want him to be good so bad. Like, I love Dionne Jordan to like I wanted him to be good. And he's still that didn't make sense at the time. I was when they all right. We're getting that offensive lineman. Well, that's dolphins. This is what it's like being the dolphins fan. All right. So anything else you wanna touch on lines game? Stafford looked really good when he had to throw the ball. I mean, he's a good quarterback. They're fun. The and I think the lions are. I think they're dangerous team moving. We were watching the lions are the are the titans of the NFC. Let's fair like they lost be good. They go in a playoff game. But they they beat Green Bay and the patriots the patriots. And they lost down jets. And dallas. By else. And somebody else does kgo San Francisco with Jimmy Garoppolo. They're still not that good. But I mean there that weird team. You never know what you're going to get. So I I was seemed to be hitting their stride. I was hoping at home. We can we you know, we would be able to to win this one. Boy, the defense was just all I mean, that's that's the big takes bad. Was that was the worst defense? I've seen Stafford was good enough. Not to throw the, you know, throw that in opportune pick that we've been living on this really saved us in our wins. Is yet we didn't get any time in our in our wins that we've had like we had like our end zone picking like every one of those games than we are just three of them. No, nothing all of them. Not the titans game. Okay. But they were all like we did get picks in the titans game. Just right. Yeah. No. But I mean like like gate those are games. Those are momentum swinging huge saving you three points at least if not seven like they're huge swings. And we weren't that wasn't going to happen against staff. That was an, you know, honestly, like if you look at the recipe of what the lines did. It's been traditionally how teams just dashing destroy the dolphins. Just throw the ball tight end and run right down their throats. And maybe Patricia knows that from his years of the patriots. I don't think that guy knows anything he might not. But I mean that is that's traditionally how you beat them in like our how we've gotten beaten over the years, and I we just hadn't seen it exposed as poorly. The I mean, I guess in the. I mean, I guess in the pie didn't see him pulling that off in Foxborough lash in Miami last year. No, I know. Well, he wasn't calling the game. I mean last year when he was the defense running the defense. Yeah. The yeah. Oh, you're saying the offense. Anyway. All right. So let's let's move. Let's take a look at a you know what what's today Tuesday. So in two days two days Judah Sammy dolphin Brock Osweiler returns to Texas to Houston where he stole a whole bunch of money. He sure did. Oh my God for him. Yeah. No. I don't absolutely definitely don't fault them for that. And honestly, he he led them to the playoffs that we didn't lead them, but he was their quarterback. And they went to the playoffs and they wanna play off game. He was he was benched for Tom savage. No. I don't think. So. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that happened. Well, he was the quarterback in the playoff game that they want. He was the quarterback affecting. Regardless. He did not have a great, no. No, no, literally gave away a second round pick to get him off their team. Yeah. To get rid of the contract, which. Hey, he's looked. Okay. He's fine. He's fine. He he's good in this, offense, whatever. So the Texans defense has been absolutely insane. The last couple of weeks. I don't know if you've been following this not closely. But I mean, I've I've watched some scores. They haven't played any like really good offenses. Not saying ours is a really good offense. That's not what I was waiting. But I'm just saying they haven't, you know, TJ TJ, which is the brother, which is this one this. I'm old you've been feeding me these seltzer. We've fat one. We haven't even days JJ what he does have a brother. So he looks like he's back to form county. And what's his Mercer Leah's that other guy? He's really good. Yeah. I don't know much about their secondary. But they seem to be able to get after quarterbacks and do they have more than two Cornerbacks. They do have more than two quarter, and they can cover are wide receiver. Well, we have three and possibly you counting. Parker. I am counting park. Well, no. I was actually Ford actually looked good in the preseason. No, yet Karoo might be good. Who knows I liked? I thought he was good. He was just buried behind guys like him. Like, he he's Karoo is to grant as grant is to Wilson. All right. Perfect. Wilson's a better grant grants a better career. And remember when he had restored Matthews. I guess Rashad Matthews is kind of like kind of like that guy win the new New York jet. He did get signed by the jets. I was wondering if they were going to make a play for the dolphins. Yeah. Given that the fact that he needed wide receiver. I guess the jets are star wide receiver still. Terrible. Yeah. He he's just I like Matthews when he played I can't see gays bringing in a guy who was like, a malcontent the last place he was with all the house. That is true. That's he was never a malcontent in Miami. No, I know good knocker room guy. You're not hell really liked him. I I mean, I don't know that for a fact well tannehill like throwing them they were they came up. They were in the same draft class. And they probably you know, were had a beer together. I don't know personally if you liked him. I'm just saying like he liked him as a wide receiver like when he was when Matthews got a shot tannehill always looked at him. All right now, though with that. Anyway, doesn't matter. He's a jet now. So he can go to hell he did. Yeah. They go. All right. So Thursday night. What do you think what do you think in like in their chances I- the Thursday thing really really bugs me because they never went on Thursday. I don't Thursday really sucks this week because this is not a week. We need a short preparation they need to bring their bringing Parker in the offense heavily. They need to bring Karoo or Ford in like they need to figure they need to revamp this offense to work with only three wide receivers. They just go heavy and just go like go big runs and start using this tight ends. Well, I think you'll see the two tight ends. I mean, they were they had to use it. You're going to see Drake out wide. You'll see makes a lot of sense to see Drake and gore out there at the same time. I think you can you can do things, but that you're going to need to go max protect against that pass rush with this offense of line. Like, you're going to need those guys in there. Like, I think you're going to need you're going to need multiple tight ends to block. You got. You have those guys that have been up with the team they can run they can run routes. They can catch passes. They can block to Seki looks good. That's another thing. We didn't really talk about when when he got in on Sunday. He was making some place. No o'leary. No. I love. I love that guy. He's been great. But yeah. No. I mean, they can get those guys. I mean, if that's the kind of game plan, they're going to go with, and I think that could make some sense. I mean, I think that's how you have to play this. I don't think you you bring all these new wide receivers in and spread it out. And then have us while a run for his life. And he was under way more than this lions game. Then he wasn't that bears game. Stop looking at your phone. I am looking up to see if KiKi Kutai is going to be playing. He's our believe it does look like he will not play. He's out from what I saw. So that helps because they have three great wide receivers. Fuller's been quiet these couple of weeks as waken don't say that. Yeah. And then Lamar Miller. I mean, he's been very good. Although, but he was good last week against the Jags one hundred yards and a touchdown. I believe true. So what do you think? I mean, they're offensive line is atrocious. It is. But it seems to be Jelling. They haven't had the injuries that we've had. Okay. I'm not the first one to mention this their quarterback had to take a bus to the game because his lungs can't take the pressure of flying. That's not a guy with an offensive line. That's gelling. Well that was last week. I mean, he didn't get he didn't really wasn't really under any dress against the Jaguars and the Jaguars. Well, guess not good. Apparently. I thought they were good the well. They've got a they've got a quarterback problem. Their defense isn't very good either. Apparently, well, they gave up forty points to the Cowboys. And then they just gave up twenty points to the twenty points when it was twenty to nothing. So they probably took their foot off the gas because they had Cody Kessler and it quarterback. So they were like through. But I mean, we know that a defense can't be out there all game. Even a great defense. Can't be. I mean, I'm not going to the game. I just saw that it was twenty to nothing. And then it was what was the final twenty two seven. Yes. The offense is sputtering. You know, the defense does kind get tired out there, which I'm which I'm sure happened to them. But no, I'm not pretending to know. But. We can we can get through the line and make Watson run. I don't believe that doesn't always help us with mobile quarterback. Sometimes that just means he's going to make a play on the move. They're going to need. I mean, they have honestly they have this. They have the athletes at at linebacker to spy bakers. Very good athlete. He could he could could be that guy. Maybe to spy, I don't know. I don't know if that's how they play this. I don't know if that's how they're gonna play it. I mean, you have to account for it. I hope they do. Fitzpatrick. Maybe I mean, I don't know. Like, I mean, he could be like a slot guy. That's kind of you know, playing zone in the in the slot close to the box keeping an eye on Watson. He knows him. They've played each other a couple times in college that actually came up true said he's the best quarterback he ever face. Yeah. I thought that was interesting. So it'll I don't know. I'm I don't feel great about it. Just given all the things against us. But for some reason like I feel like a lot of times. Like, I feel like these games that are obvious games where they're you know, they should lose and they should be. They should get killed the summary. They somehow show up. I mean, we only did it once this year. Yeah. But well, well, it's it does happen though. Well, yeah, it's not on Thursday night happens. It's the NFL all the time. It's true. I feel like it's the games that we're supposed to win that. We don't think we're supposed to get killed. We actually played pretty well. So I don't know. I I mean, how do you do you want to go into picks or like do you want to what did you want to talk more about it? What do you think? Well, I'm just the Houston is a really hard team to gauge grabbing a drink you go for keep talking. They have looked horrible to start the year. But yet still are somehow coming out on top like they've won enough games. Like they've won four in a row, which is actually surprisingly if you're not following them. And you're like, you're just remember how bad they look and some of these games are down. And then all of a sudden, you're like, wait. They've won four in a row like that doesn't that doesn't seem. That doesn't seem right. So I don't know if you know they've played some bad teams. But and you know, they've won some games. They could have in probably should've lost those two to back to back bad overtime games. They had they had the colts and won the colts won. And they want anyone. You're right. But those games that could have lost. And those aren't good teams that they played against. So it's so who did they lose to? I mean, they they came out. They started own to right, or at least the yes. Own three. Maybe you'll have to look this up. Now. I mean, I don't care that much about them. I mean, they're they are probably the best even that division right now. Well, they just beat the Jags. So that puts them in in the they lost to the titans. I know that that's true without mariota. That was weak. That's you right. So. Don't know who they lost two in week one. But they did not play well in week one. All right. So they they beat the colts and overtime. All right. Let's go about. Oh, they so they lost to the patriots in week one. When we thought they were good and they lost by seven to the patriots. Then they lost to the titans. Then they lost to the giants. The terrible. Terrible. John. Oh, that's right. That's the giants one win. So they were Owen three and then had that overtime win against the colts, which they which was awfully done overtime win against the Cowboys. And then they beat and then they beat the and then they just beat the bills by seven before beating the Texans by beating the Jaguars soundly, so I have no idea what to make of this team. I almost I almost role right now. Well, they're on a roll true. I mean, they just the. I don't know what to make of the Jaguar four on threes. A great record goal. Great teams are foreign threats. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No. It's I mean, oh, man. I mean, I thought they were gonna going back to the dolphins. I thought they were going to lose the lions game. Obviously, I predicted it. But man, it hurts like if they could have been five and two coming into this. If they want that Bengals game that I mean that it's it's weird. And that's why when we do our when we do our our predictions for the season, we take them in batches. Yeah. Because you know, what if you look at the last two games? We would not have been surprised if we lost to the bears, and we wouldn't have been surprised we lost the dolphin. Splitting those games is was expected. And we did we just did him backwards. Right. Then. Well, we didn't know about the tanto injury. Either. True. So let's go with I guess, I think I actually had this one is more of I would think it was a little bit more confident that they were gonna win this game at the beginning of this quarter. Now, I'm not so sure given the things that have happened. I don't know. What do you think? What do you think? Did you? Did you make a pick while I was getting drinks? I I was just talking. Okay. That's good. But so what I was going was I think this is a big old line. Now. This is big. I think it's seven and a half. And that's actually what I was looking up when I was trying to talk to you. Yeah. Okay. I think you're right. I think that's what I saw seven and a half because we have no receivers because we still have Osweiler because they're on a roll. And they're at home. That's that's feels like a big number for a team that just has one convincing win. That's a big number. I feel like it'll be closer. But the dolphins. Do you have a habit of getting just murdered on Thursday nights? I'm not taking that into gambling. That's averages. Like what usually happens? It's not what you're going to. You're not gonna take it in times. They play to good teams on Thursday nights. The played the for when this crazy streak started. They were at the patriots. And the patriots are a great team. The Bengals absolutely murdered us in the Bengals. I don't think made the playoffs that year. But neither did we. Was I was in the playoffs. But they were playing really well in the beginning the ravens last year. Absolutely. So ravens. And at Foxboro. We don't win those games on any day of the week ravens and Bengals where two teams that did not make the playoffs in those respective years. And absolutely destroyed don't seat the ravens it was the it was we got our one win against them. And that's it that I'm aware. But we have played close games against them. We have it's not like the real. We don't lose forty's nothing. I'm just saying I'm not taking your silly Thursday night logic as a reason. All right. I hope I'm wrong. So so so seven and a half points. Who who do you take? That's what I'm saying. I feel like it's too high. But also at the same time, they get murdered on Thursday nights. You have to pick one dumb dumb. I know I say they cover. Wow. What confidence? Of course, I've taken the Miami Dolphins. I'm every week. I've taken with the points. I don't know if they're going to win. I've I'm taking them. I'm taking them plus with the with the plus seven and a half. I've taken them every week, and I've been right more than I've been wrong. All right. So what's your what's your score? Prediction. Whatever the score is it will be closer than seven and a half on either side. No game. But since you're putting me on the spot our three wide receivers are going to go. They're going to go crazy. Well, a lot of yards after catch somehow. We are going to win. Twenty seven. Ooh. To twenty six. Oh, a one. I like it. All right. I like that pick. I like it a lot. I don't know if we're gonna score that many points against this defense against I think we could win. I think we definitely cover. I don't see them. I don't see them blow. It are we lit up the bears bring them on. Yeah. So did you see before I make my pick? Did you see the? Deandre Hopkins throwing shade at that exhibit on our this week. I did not. So I've actually if you read the full quote, and I was given completely out of context when the reporter mentioned it to deandre Hopkins, and he said exhibit Howard's initial quote was that. Hopkins is a good receiver. He pushes off a lot. But he's you know, he makes fantastic are amazing catches. So the reporter said exhibit on Howard says you push off a lot and deandre Hopkins responded with who's exactly on Howard come on. Which I well. No, I'm just saying I mean, so now there's there's some shade being thrown you think Howard really steps up in this game. This'll be I mean, he's probably going to be matched up with the most of the night Xs a grown ass, man. He does not need bull bulletin board material to make him play. He's he's going to he's going to go out there and shut well and try his best. I hope so. But you know, I mean, I love Howard. I think he's he's more than capable cornerback business. You know, you you can win more than you lose. And you could still give up you know, one hundred yards and three plays. You know, when you could still swat seven balls away from him, and it still looks bad up one hundred yards. So I don't know. I Hopkins is going to get his he's pretty darn good. But, but, but you know, I'm all right with it. I was not all right with the pass interference call that was one thing from the from the lions game that happened on Sunday. There was that one the passenger fares call on xavien Howard that led to their field goal that made an eleven point game was basically sealed the game. That was the one though, though he did have his hands on his hip and brought him down a little bit. No, you're that was McCain that brought the guy down by his hip. Right. Right. That one like like in live action. I'm like, what are they calling? But like in super slow MO I'm like, yeah. I can kind of see it. It was a little ticky tack especially with the game on the line. I don't know either way. Anyway, I mean, they call they call. The thing to call them all the time. So yeah. So I would like to see I'd like see Howard bounce back and have a really great game against against Hopkins. So I'm gonna pick. I know there's a little bit of a segue there. I think our defense shows up. I think it's a little bit of a low scoring game. I think our defensive mad. I got I hope they're mad. I say we win this one. Twenty two seventeen dolphins. All right. I'll take that too. Yep. So all right. We'll see how we go from there. I don't have much more to say about this one. I don't really feel great about it. But I'm gonna I'm gonna take the dolphins. I'm gonna this. I mean, it's all I don't I hate to say the season is dependent on this game because it through it formed four that's not. I mean, that's the end of the world. It's not but the back half of our schedule is murder. It is. But the team the teams that looked really good in the you know, there's that Jaguars game. Wait that doesn't the Jag as daunting. Jags Green Bay and Minnesota are not as good as they were last year. Minnesota looks like they're starting to fire their good. I'm not saying we're winning those game. I'm saying those teams last year were all three were way better. Right. Those don't look as bad. Yeah. Yeah. That's fair. We still get the jets and the bills one more time. Hopefully, we can win bowls twice. Oh, the bills twice. That's right. We haven't we haven't played out and we get to play your boys. The pats in our stadium would just one week. We win half the times. Yup. And the colts who are not good. We'll see. I'm lucky. I'm not. I'm not saying as an easy when I'm saying if we if we're a playoff team we win that game. Yeah. We're looking forward to the schedule. I'm just saying like this is this is a pretty big game. Like the this season doesn't hang in the balance. But. So I think it's one we need. So let's bring up something sad. But I told you it was going to happen. Albert wilson. No. We already talked about that. So with that sad on our head to head pink eye trounced three no week one. Yeah. You squeak the win three and a wheel. I ride whatever Samantha is week. Three was mine again because I own the odd week. Oh in one zero one one everybody, and there's one other one that was very very close in that close doesn't count. You just said trounced. All right. Well, that's because I'm being a jerk. So I told everybody don't go with my picks go with James is because it's an even week and he's and he's going to win and he can only go to in one. When I go at least went to Owen one yet. So I lost the dolphins game badly. I said they were going to lose by eleven and they lost by eleven. I lost the bills game. Which was just silly got. Good Lovie listen to the tape. I didn't really want that. But I thought they'd keep it close. But oh, my I don't know what I was thinking like it at the title. Title nine thinking. But that was like me taking wind the Texans. I liked the Texans plus five and a half. And you thought that was not enough points. He thought the Jags would take them. I did. I was I was drinking the Kool aid. I thought the only game you got wrong. So but now we're back into an odd week. Now, we're back to my territory, my friend. I know but we both picked the dolphins to win. Yeah. We're not. No. I know. But we're getting now I'm segue into the rest of the game. All right. Yes. All right. Let's see how I did that that was a good segue. Nice job broadcast. I know you're more of the host. You've got that pretty voice the squeaky voice in your ears. But. I mean, not useful football knowledge. I know about other things. Yeah. We are. I think we're like we're solid like fifty percent of the time right on gambling. Yup. All right, but which fifty percent. Well, together, we're one of us is always right. It's your week. So so it's my week fire west, let's start this thing up inland in London. You have those same Jacksonville Jaguars given up a home game or well in their second home Serb. Blake Bortles will be starting again. He's on a short leash whatever that means love that. So the world champ. Philadelphia Eagles and the Jacksonville Jaguars. Oh, my so both of these teams are on the ropes right now. First of all, I keep reading this thing. There has never been a game in London between two teams with winning records. Wow. That is true. It's one of those facts, I read and you're really, yeah. This one should have been that on paper. This was like the best game by far we have ever sent them before the year stars. You've got the champ and somewhat in one of the final four. Yeah. And I mean, this doesn't even tell me their records both. Yeah. Both three and four the Jags might be too in five are they? No, no. I don't I do not believe the giants. And they they Jackson lose the giants the Jags loss. Oh, they look they won that game ugly. Yeah, they won. They beat the jets to they lost. And they beat the patriots. So they've won three. So there three and four. But an ugly. I mean, that's a team. We have lost some bad games. They've got killed by the Cowboys got killed by the chiefs. And then they lost to the to the Texans. Those are the last three games for them. Not good. Not good Jacksonville. No. No. No, no. There seems to be some some serious problems there. By the way, this is a total tangent. But I saw an article today apparently fans of the show the good place which used to that had a it's a it's a really funny show. That's there's this guy from Jacksonville. Who would always talk about Blake Bortles and how he's the best. And this was before this is before Jacksonville was actually good because it was like this running joke. Oh, yeah. Fans of the show actually thought Blake Bortles was a made up player. Awesome. That people that did not know football. So I thought that was a that was funny. That is pretty awesome. I mean, he kind of isn't made a player three in the draft. Oh, yeah. The chiefs beat the Jags bad. Yes. The chiefs did and the Cowboys did and active back titans. The titans beat them and the Texans. Yes. God. And they beat the patriots. The patriots of loss. A terrible teams rushed the patriots. Yeah. All right. So so what is the line? Yeah. I'm waiting for the line on this. You are you. Oh, that's I'm like, wow. That's a lot. Because that's where the next game. This one is three and a half. The eagles are favored by three and a half. Yes. The eagles are favored by three and a half. That makes sense. I feel like I mean, it's make a break time for both of these both of these teams. I feel like I don't know which one's going to pop off the mat? I guess the eagles are more likely to I will take the eagles. You will take the eagles. I I'm undecided on this one. I would lean towards the points not enough to make it a to put it on as a as a bet. If if we're really out of ones. Still did that if we're really out of ones we will come back maybe in revisit this. But I'm not happy about it. Goes down I'm leaning Jags just because of the points. But I think I don't think there's bad as they've been. But yeah, you're right. I'm going eagles. That's going to do a fun game. Cleveland, pittsburgh. Yes, sir. Cleveland at Pittsburgh, eight points. Pittsburgh's favored by eight. They are they are home than they are playing the Browns. Yeah. But they tied in the Browns to won the first game. So I like. Eighths too high. I I liked the Browns. I think the Browns have been they've been like every single game. They've played is going to overtime this year. And they should have beat them in week one. Yeah. Yeah. And they I mean, they they know them. Well, I mean, I it's I mean, I don't like them to win. I think Pittsburgh pry wins. I'm taking their the Browns. I'm taking Pittsburgh in this one. I agree with everything you say on paper that's to any points Brown's kind of play close, but they always play. They haven't looked good. I mean, the the bucks defense is horrible. And they they did change your ward Nader's though, oh come on. I know I'm just saying the change in scheme. Like, I don't know. Like, I've been hearing some of the media stuff like it seems like the players really responded to that. I don't know like he was actually calling blitzes apparently they haven't bullets. I don't follow the bucks that much. But fine, but you got the Steelers coming off a bye, you've got them needing to prove to bell that they don't need them because he didn't report and this week when they thought to I know I think they win. I just think the Br I think it's closer than eight points. That's all I agree that that's a possibility. But I think I think. I think I think they had their chance to beat the Steelers, and they blew it. And I think the Steelers. I'm taking in the eight. No, that's fine. That's next game. Denver Broncos to Kansas City Chiefs. What's that ten and a half? Boy. We kind of glanced over how wrong we were about the Broncos on Thursday. Yeah. We did both wrong. Well, when you have to terrible teams, you don't know what you know. You assume they punch each other to a draw. Yeah. Sometimes one teams more terrible than the other. I had a little bit more faith than Josh Rosen than I should have. He looks like Jay Cutler point. No. I mean, I think he's fine that that I don't but their their offensive coordinator who they did. Fire was terrible. I we talked about how bad it was before. And that he has he's never been good at this. When he was head coach when he's a coordinator. He's the most boring bland like terra. No, no, ingenuity. No nothing going on there. So. Yeah. Pick sixes never help. So zone is new offense coordinator is Byron left, which yes, sir. You remember Byron left, which he was one of our quarterbacks. Once not for the dolphins is he was no you're thinking of David Gerard. I did the same thing. Wait left which never was on. The dolphins was a bucks quarterback come on. I swear to God, you're wrong. I heard was his backup. Gerard was Gerard came down to Miami. And was was supposed to be the starter. Tantalus first year not even in preseason. Like never a dolphin. No. You're thinking of David Gerard. Oh my God. That is terrible. So there's the funniest the funny story about Byron left which that I can that I can recall, and this is going to go deep into my fin are fantasy league. Which is now, I guess you can call it yours since you've wanted the last two years, although the who won this week. I heard I heard you had a little bit of a little bit of a stump. Well, I lost on purpose. You told me last week that the times go ahead and and go undefeated though, right L in the playoffs. Wrestling, Gordon rested. Melvin Gordon, okay. Anyway. So Byron left which used to be a fantasy quarterback of record years and years and years ago and one of the people in the league made the comment that he kind of resembled the hamburglar. So we always used to say, rob, rob every time. He was he was mentioned. So I actually got a text this week when I saw that Byron left which was named the offense coordinator of the Arizona Cardinals. And it also just read rubble rubble. So I know who the texts game from which was great. I didn't get it. Now. I get it. Thank you for explaining it to there, we go. So he's the hamburglar, he does kind of if you think about it. I'm looking at a picture of a barn left, which you just kind of resemble the Hamburg. All right. So not to get too far into Denver Broncos now. So there was the line on this ten and a half. Oh, jeez. I'm chiefs all the way chiefs at home. I don't care. I'm not I'm not betting against the. They're the real deal. The Broncos played them tough. The last time they played though that was recently. Yup. And they're only I think they've got one of those in them that was at home. This one's in Kansas City. Yeah. I don't think. All right. So I don't think I don't think Denver wins. I like Kansas City to win. But I don't are. You are you are you are you. Taking a bean on. No, no, no. I'll take Kansas City. Though, right. Yeah. Take him thinking about it chicken. Cover. They should. I mean. I don't. I mean, they I mean, they're division foes. So I was going to get into a little fun of the Broncos. So yeah. The who's the terrible quarterback. They decided to sign case two years, case keenum. Yes. And they have like Mr. Chad Kelly on the s you got arrested her he got arrested. So there's been some rumblings. Like, hey, let's give this guy a shot one too many hard seltzer. Isn't this guy got arrested like what what is your what look I was young and stupid. But even then like you you can't throw away these opportunities. Yeah. Well, welcome to the NFL man mean that guy dropped to where he did in the draft. Because of I mean, he look at Johnny Manziel like this this this is not you know, what I didn't know. I didn't know he was Jim Kelly nephew. I didn't know that either. I read that somewhere. All right. So now, I really don't like them. There you go. So what you hear? So you took Kansas City. I took Kansas City. Yup. You're frayed to go against because I'm going to win everything this week. All right. New York Jets Chicago Bears at bear seven points bears bears. There's got I hope bears. I mean jets are that weird team. But they really are the bears or at home again. Yup. They're coming off a game two to two special teams scores of a block Pont and. A very close hail. Mary was mazing. So. So they you know, they almost beat the dolphins. They almost beat the patriots. I think they'll beat the I'll be they'll beat the handle the jets. Bisky versus darnold. It's the future the NFL quarterback. I think Donald will be. All right. I know you love him. I think he's I mean, I don't think he's terrible. I think Mayfield will be. All right. We'll see. I think I think Mayfield. Could you imagine? If Mayfield was like drafted by like a good team. Like if you sat behind Brady for a year Brady retired and he took over he'd be ridiculous. So there's been at least one of the things that I've heard about Mayfield or that that has been discussed of late has been he apparently had a very difficult time against the chargers at apparently what they did was they stacked the middle of the field because I guess he's having a very very diff because of his height. He's having a difficult time seeing that area of the field. And I think that's what the bucks did on Sunday as well. So there might be there might be something he has to overcome. We'll see. Yeah. I think I mean, there's obviously truth to that. But they're short guys have been playing in the NFL breeze. Isn't that tall? No, no breezes, overcome it. Russell Wilson overcame it. But I mean, Doug. Everybody. Remember Doug flutie's year with the bills? I unfortunately, remember, Doug Flutie. All right. Washington Redskins at New York Giants. This is the Redskins are favored by one. That's it. It's in New York. Tra trap gaming us. I don't know the Redskins. Look pretty good really five and to. No, they're not are. They really. Yeah. Because they won that game. Yeah. That'd be the Cowboys. I mean, they got killed by the saints. But other than that they've played pretty well you, but they've only beaten bad teams though, they beat the Packers. Batters are not a good team. They beat the Panthers. True. And the Cowboys are a terrible team. But yeah, the Cowboys aren't a terrible team. They're not good. They're not a good team. I wouldn't say I mean. They beat the cardinals. They lost to the colts. They beat the Packers. They lost to the saints. They beat the Panthers and they lost. And they beat the Cowboys. So there what four and three. I wasn't counting forward to. I think they had a bye so there. Yeah. They beat the giants. Are they are foreign to they win? Right. Yes. Yeah. They're going to beat the giants. The giants are terrible giants are bad. Although they played the they did play the falcon stuff last night. It was like it was garbage. So it was ever game. It was that was like a garbage. So they had they were down. I mean they were in the in the red zone and blue some chances. I don't know. I mean, the falcons are bad to either way. All right. I wasn't prized their defense. But I think I don't know Atlanta took their foot off the gas. I did not watch the game. I didn't watch it either. We love football. We have a podcast. All right, Seattle Seahawks. I watched the highlights the are the worst. I was going to watch the game. And I will have watched it by Thursday when we normally tape this. There we go. All right, Seattle Seahawks. At Detroit Lions, those lions those pesky lions, what's one there at home. And they're just the the home three. They're favored by see that this seems like it's it'd be a wash. Yep. Yeah. Take lines there. They seem to be on a roll. Ooh, this line is not enough. Maybe because of the last couple of ugly losses bagels got walloped. Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Cincinnati Bengals four and a half. That's it. That's what I say. I said the line is low, but the Bengals look bad two weeks three. If you go back to their win like that they that. They don't they've won it. But they it was given to them. That's true. That's a very very good point. I mean, they played the Steelers. The Steelers are good. They lost in the last minute. I was at home though. Yeah. I'm just saying like this was a team. I thought this was like the third best team in the world of them. And now, it's the chargers is the third best team in the AFC hers might be better than that by friend. Not putting them above the other two. I hear you. I will take the Bengals the bucks are. Sorry. Sorry bucks. The buck's our garbage. But they are also the kings of garbage time they love to cover those giants. Yeah. You know, what I'm gonna take the bucks? All right. It'd take the four and a half. Okay. Just because I want to see if these Bengals are in free fall. I want the bucks to be good. Like, I really wanted their offense to be good. Well, their offense is great. Oh, no. Like, number wise. They're often. Oh, yeah. Great on paper. Yeah. Like even wasn't just turns the ball over so much. Yeah. Like, they're not so much NFL. Great. But on. Not so much football. Great. I think they'd be really good at basketball, or they're putting up the Bianchi. They are putting up the same numbers as Kurt Warner's bench greatest show on turf Rams right now are they really? Yes. It's a different league though. Like, I guess everybody's doing that. But like, I guess, yeah. You're right. You're right. Okay. They moved the ball. They just and man that field goal kickers great at fifty nine yards, but not extra points or forty yards. Couldn't believe they went for that. And got it. You. You. That was that was being rewarded for doing the wrong thing, you miss that? And they're practically in field goal range. I'm guessing you don't want to play for one. If your kicker, all right? Baltimore raisins at Carolina Panthers. Roy that is a ravens. I mean. The ravens are good. The ravens are old school NFL matchup. The ravens are good. They should've had their say sure the white field. Yeah. That's that's just weird. Tuck never missed an extra point no one long and probably the best guy goes into stuff that like never really happens for the dolphins. Although park you did miss that field goal. But it was a fifty three yard field goal. You know, like, I just man we were hardly gifted that bears. Win we earned it. Well, they gave it away once more than we did. I guess I don't know. I mean, we had the we had some bad calls. All right. So I think this ravens team is good. They should have one at home or could have tied. No. Draw? What's what's? Actually, only one. It's ravens are minus one on the road. Well, I mean, it's it's basically a pick em I'll go Carolina. When might take the ravens. All right. Put it on the board o. Don't you? Dare dare. Sorry. That was good once one hundred years ago. Are they not doing that podcast anymore? They are just stopped listening to it. Oh, I thought they had I guess they changed it. Right. They the one of the the host. I noticed that they had forever left and. Yeah, I thought they had I thought it like changed names. I knew Barra. I know Barry still has berries doesn't he he's probably better than we are. But he's not very good anyone's better than we are. And that's true. All right. So this is this is the first game. We're putting on there. We had another one didn't we I thought we did. But I didn't type it ravens minus one. Oh is the bucks bucks? So I'm taking the bucks and Pittsburgh. Now, we both liked the Steelers took the Browns as a as a as a like your cover. Yeah. They're not gonna win. They're gonna lose. But they're gonna cover. So I'm taking the bucks plus four and a half. Oh boy. This is exciting radio right here. All right. So we're going to look the next game coming up as Indianapolis at Oakland. What is the line? I can't see it from upside down looks like three points for Indianapolis on the road. The raiders are that is a dumpster fire. The colts are favored in Oakland. The raiders are a dumpster fire. I just said they just yeah. And they got rid of two of their three best players. Yup. Before the midway point of the season. Jon Gruden obviously doesn't think like did not like this team. I don't know why. If you didn't like the team, I am sticking with what I said last I going against the I'm going against the gruden's every week. Oh, yeah. No. And the colts are better than their record. I think luck is. I think you know, look. Any time. You have a player like luck on your team. It makes you he does seem to be back. He seems to be the luck of old. Yep. So there's no marshawn Lynch they've are. They traded away their best player on defense. Now the traded away. I mean, well, either best wide receiver probably. But I mean, if you've ever had them in fantasy, and we probably all had them once the guy was just I two years. He was nails. Yes. Two years. So he's not been good. Actually. I think you only. Yeah. Yeah. He had those those years. We're we're he was really good. I think he's I think he goes to Dallas and actually does. Well. I wanted to change Dallas pick. I would have. Know they're on by. Yeah. There you got to buys in a row for him being traded one more time to another team on them. Yeah. We like the colts. We liked the colts. Yeah. By lot. Here's a true pick them. Oh, boy, the forty Niners at Arras Zona. Give me the forty Niners all day long. Yeah. Man. I like this forty nine hundred team all of a sudden if Brita AC Slater if breeding CJ Beathard if Bray Brita plays stardom if he doesn't start that most guy the the cardinals cannot stop the run Brita ahead negative one points last week hurt. Okay. And most are like four thousand zero right? It wasn't that the fire. That was the final score. Right. It was just thirty nine hundred fifty six zero round up. Green Bay Packers at Los Angeles. Rams that should be a good game is at the Sunday night. No, no, no. The Sunday nights. Is a good game. Okay. All right. Green Bay at Los Angeles nine and a half. Ryan the Rams high. I think it probably is because. Because it's already have our three actually actually know what before I've been riding the Rams, it's one of those things, but Rogers should be getting back drano Allison and possibly Randall Cobb. So we get at least throw it to somebody in this game. I am not. I am not I I'm not going to go against the Rams. But I think I Green Bay covering wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility here. Yeah. I'll go Rams. Yeah. Me too. Right. All right now your Sunday night game. You have the saints going to Minnesota little replay hill rematch. Yeah. Really good playoff game. Yeah. That was a great game. So they got the saints getting one in Minnesota. I think the saints win this game. Although Minnesota looks like they're back, but they're banged up on defense. Gripper Griffin is back with the team. But he's not he's not gonna play this week. I wouldn't imagine. I don't think so. But he is back with the team. So I yeah, they're banged up in the secondary to. I like what they've done. I like I like third we had this conversation at the bar on Sunday Murray looks like a very very capable running back to play. He's fine. He's not as good as cook. But he's off the feeling is ridiculous. The Stefan digs is a very good wide receiver as well. Kirk cousins is you know, top half of the league quarterback. Defenses playing better, but they have some their banged up there. I don't there at home. The saints are playing very well. Right now. I'm going to take the saints. I'm taking the saints. Probably will ease the game more. I just think the saints are better. Right. Right now. I do think the saints that. I don't think that Vikings defense isn't what it was the saints offense is what it was. Although the saints defense was decent last year. And it's not what it was. But it's been better. Yeah. But I mean, you can't really measure defense against a flacco. No or an Eli which is another will against so. Yeah. I like the saints. Oh, wow. What a barber Monday night. My what is the line twenty-seven points fourteen? That's it. So New England. We know how New England likes to run for a special division opponents in the fourteen. I don't even if they're not Ray laying up the score. I don't think I don't think the bills get anywhere near. So here's drunk even play in this game. I guess does even matter I wouldn't play him. Because why would you not against that? Great defense. They wanted to get hurt fence. But the defense doesn't matter when they don't have a quarterback. There's the greatest defense eighty-five bears right there a better than you expect defense from a lousy team. Yeah. They only gave up thirty seven points to the Indianapolis Colts. All right. Barlett back. Look like. Walter Payton as we said before you'll never defense can only be do you remember Jim Brown? What was it like watching? Jim Brown play. I watched him in the movies. He was great in those magnificent seven. All right. So what was it? The dirty dozen. What do we what how many choices? Do. We score forty-nine. Well, the under overs forty four. So the forty four probably. So here's a fun story. So because of this game this week last week I picked up New England's defense and two of my leagues lucky you so I just one of them ours. Yep. Oh, great. So I started them, obviously. Even I picked them up a week early. And I said, oh all started against Trubisky. So they obviously has scored two defensive touchdowns. So that was like a bonus week that I was just I was just using just so I can have them for this week. Good for you, man. If you could stream the defense against buffalo. They are pretty much ever. Buffalo plays is pretty much the high or badly with with Alan. But now. Yeah, now that is that is that's good. That was like streaming the defense against the lions that year before they got Stafford or the Browns any of the last like three years. Yup. So all right. You're going to watch the World Series. You care you care. No. I don't it's hard to for me to watch baseball. If my team's not play. Yeah. I don't really care all that much. And you know, he's been good the Tampa Bay Lightning hockey team. Yes tonight. They had fifty five shots in three period game. They had thirty three shots in the second period against the Blackhawks NHL record. I did not see that. That's amazing. Wait till the playoffs. I'm a bandwagon fan. Yeah. Know, I know. Well, that's how hockey is. But I mean they've been they've been on fire to start out the season. It's been great great last year. They're good team. That has a well run organization the Miami Dolphins should send somebody up here to watch. How that team is run. I heard on the market like do you think the dolphins could hire him? You think he'd be that that skill set would translate to the NFL couldn't hurt? I don't know. God Albert Wilson. I'm so all right. We'll let these things happen. You have to you have to persevere we have grant we're gonna use grant in that role. He's going to be fine. I know I guess, but all right. I'm confident about Thursday. I think I think we've got a chance five and three hope. Oh, man five and three verts put in the book. Yeah. We'll we'll see. Fins? Hello. I'm Spencer hall from SP nation. And I want to tell you about my new show. 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The Blowhole Episode 36: Thanks be to terrible calls!

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The Blowhole Episode 36: Thanks be to terrible calls!

"Three strikes and you're out three nine three nine for three and thirteen. Good Evening Ladies and gentlemen welcome to the blowhole on finsider radio tonight. You have myself James. James Radio joined by my house. The Rob who I think is ready to finally throw in the towel on this crazy crazy. Miami Dolphins Twenty nineteen. NFL season What a Sunday it was rob? Why don't you let us know how you felt about? No first of all I am doing this whole podcast under protest best. It is now officially after midnight my time this is Thursday night the jets have already been destroyed by the NFC North AFC. I've seen north champion Ravens rushing title. Whatever Lamar just did? It's super late. A little buzzed. I'm exhausted and it's it's all your fault. We're all drunk it's added. It's only nine o'clock on the West Coast so I your move has inconvenienced me so so much I appreciate. You've got this one out. Rows also inconvenienced our listeners because they never know when they're getting this damn podcast it could starting about it. Yeah well it's not. I mean I said your fault tonight at seven and you weren't ready you know. I have the controls I can just meet you. It's your fault we're not gonNA get to you. Don't even get to explain fair enough all right so just jets dolphins we did not sweep the gates's the gaces which just fine all right. Here's here's my. Can we talk about so. Let's let let's talk about it. Let's talk about Sunday so Miami. We'd often go up to The MEADOWLANDS IN JERSEY. How did Sanders not get the special teams player? The of I know they didn't win. We're headed had it quite there yet. I go ahead so this this shell of a Miami Dolphins football team this XFL roster that we have assembled goes up to the meadowlands a and is going against the team that has spent a lot of money in things. The the thinks they have a lot of talent they They're happy with their coach. There apparently there this is. This is what they're going with. This is this is is. The base of their team is there and their quarterback home and they barely beat this team. And I don't even know like honestly like you lose devante Parker right off the Bat Albert Wilson who is in NFL caliber wide receiver. But not you know not not really at one hundred percent he is he lose his well. There's not one person in the running back room that's even close to being the. NFL taught entirely practice. Squad guys to hold on Ryan Fitzpatrick who is played on eight different teams. Don't you talk bad about our laden. MM Savior I'm not talking. I'm just stating this is. This is the team that should have beaten the jets. That's word not for a bad call the Even I don't even care like I don't even care about the overturn past referenced. Because at the end of the day the the beauty of it is like the jets had to fight and claw and scratch for this win against his terrible Miami Dolphins team that we have an ultimately. It is much much better for us. That the jets Like so they so they did. They fought so hard to win a game. That actually hurts them more than it would have had. They lost the game. So it's very it's the most Jesse EST thing I can I can I can think of. So here's here's here's my My Confession I did not watch the second half of this game now that I didn't even go back and watch the second half of the game on game pass which I usually do if I missed the game. I having seen the second half of this game but I will tell you this. That is the perfect that I couldn't have drawn up a better ending than losing on a bad call so we pretty much like. I know. There's no moral victories. But that was a moral victory and yes I've been against against the tank all season and I stick with that you couldn't from day one not try to win a game and be terrible but it's time now it's time I don't Wanna I didn't WanNa beat the jets I don't want to. I don't know if I can watch these games if I watch it. I'm going to root for the dolphins and hopefully away but I don't want to beat the giants and the Bengals. It's it's I don't WanNA I don't. I'm one of those terrible people that I hated all season long. I don't WanNa win those games. I want to three ruins. I didn't want to be on sixteen. I'm okay with three and thirteen with a shot at the first or second pick got Tam Chase young so I I did. I got it out all of Sunday. I watched watched it in its entirety. I mean we're in. I'm kind of with you who I mean. We're also both a little drunk but also at the same time. I think. We're at a point in the Miami Dolphins season where I think we've already learned everything we're GONNA learn about the people that are on this this current roster. I think the coaching staff as as learned that I know there I what I one of. The things I love about them is that they're going to try and they're going to fight an idol. They're definitely not losing a purpose the rest of the way. I'm but I'm not. I wouldn't be upset if they did lose out if they did lose the rest of the Games. I definitely wouldn't be upset. I think you're saying well no. I don't want to play Parker I want to. I want to play hard and give the job and make the giants earn earn it and I want to let the giants take it and then the same with the bank. All bengals on might not matter because we're we probably won't catch them for the first pick but I want to get ahead of the giants. We'll see how it goes But on on Sunday just a couple takeaways from the game I. I know you didn't watch the entire thing Our defense is very very bad I just I just the jets as a at the as a product as NFL. Football team products are like are hysterical to me like it's just they have lady on bell who is in in a generational type of talent running back. They don't know how to use them at all. He didn't play the game because he was sick. Below Powell oh plays in place pretty. Well I think had the highest rushing total for a jets running back all season and you have lady Avion Bell at on your team and it's just it's just a testament to ask how much Adam Gates or how little of Gates knows what he's doing with that team in that roster Sam darnold continues to Sam Darnold Ish. I'm excited for him to be the quarterback of the jets for for a long time. I can't wait for him to go against a defense. This that we put together that actually has a NFL caliber players back there. Taco Charlton did not play was a healthy scratch for this game. So Oh I kinda curious for me But overall a poor showing on defense they did they made some plays they were much better the second half the first half But I mean there's there's just not a lot of Not a Lotta playmaking ability on that side of the football and then the offense spe stay. They did lose Parker early in the game They got they moved the ball. They were down there. They got seven field goals. They were they attempted eight. It's hard to do extremely hard to do. Especially because they've actually been very good in the red zone converting. Those drips trips into touchdowns Fred for the year so that was interesting Not a lot of penalties against them. They had the one at the end of the game. Honestly that that cost him also on that Dr at you so you said you didn't even watch the last drive the jets together. I didn't even watch a replay of the pass interference so they had so what ended up happening. Reading was the dolphins and Flora's went conservative. They made they forced the jets to use all their timeouts While the dolphins had the ball settling for a field goal to put them up By two and then they kick the ball to the jets was about a minute left. Maybe under a minute of the jets had no timeouts and then Donald Short pass that I don't I can't remember which defensive bat which which practice squad defensive back we had on this team that went for the interception. Instead of just tackling the guy in front of him led to like thirty seven or forty yard game that got them close to field goal range. They were dead had Then we got a sack that are got a sack on darnold push them back to midfield after that they were well out of field goal range. I believe if it was a fourth in nineteen. Play that They threw it. Incomplete Pass and then it was I don't admit it was reviewed and they overturned the incompletion ended up calling a pass interference on need of that. PUT THEM IN field goal range to kick the winning field also perfect correct. Yeah I mean it was. The jets did not do anything to actually win the game they. They scored nineteen points. And we're given three more. That's they score touchdowns on their trips in sale still had great red zone. Defense apparently I I don't know about that I'd Fitzpatrick wasn't as Like the past issues like he missed Seki. On what would have been an obvious touchdown and then yeah. I thought the offense line that we have is terrible so he was kind of under duress. They're playing the jets played a lot more cover to instead of in the first game in Miami. They were letting a lot and they were exposing. They're putting their corners on islands which led to a big games for devante Parker Impressive Williams. They they went to a different defense. This time they were doing a lot more zone so they weren't putting as much pressure on the other corner so it was it was difficult. Fitzpatrick had a lot of running yards. which you know which was actually pretty hysterical? Also watching him he had sixty three rushing yards. He is very close to being are leading rusher for the season season now I think he probably ends the season as our as our leading rusher I believe doubting making a prediction dowd. Either way tied. Yeah No. I don't think it's going to catch him He had a very balaj type stat. Line Sunday I believe it was like it was better than that. He he actually had he actually had a decent day. He had forty eight rushing yards and thirty gate receiving yards. That's correct yes you're right. I'm I'm sorry. That's but it took like six games. Four it was. It was over three the art carry. I think I don't forget how many I don't have in front of me. How many how? Many Russia's attempts see had but he's he's okay. He's not great but he's actually he. He works better than Balaj one because he can catch and to. I don't know they seem to be the only thing. Good at running straight into the wall. Where layered they'll run those little jets weepy kind of things where he can you know when he runs straight ahead he? He's not getting anywhere either because the line is terrible but when they do some misdirections or some tricky tricky things he can he can sneak through and get like seven or eight yards here and there. Yeah so sanders. Did Miss a field goal. After the defense events did forces interception on darnold another terrible Sam Darnold type of throw So that was the one missed field goal that sanders had Which I think he would have made they would have won the game and he probably would have won his second player special teams player of the week third? I had a gun eighth grade. I feel like he probably would have won. Seven out of eight is still very good. It was an excellent day for Jason Sanders. WHO's third he has to snap? So did did you. You didn't watch the second half nope bad snap. It was not laces in Lisa's. were out but it was just a like like through the the timing off by just a hair and he just missed by air. That's pretty much what they lost. I was just a hair so I can't believe you are. You have totally missed out on the most important stat of the day which is Levy mbelle boulder to fifty one the night before with his with while you stick. It's worth the flu. That's pretty impressive. That's jordan-esque yeah. Yeah Oh man. I'M GONNA. I'm very glad the jets team is in the situation that they're in great. Yeah so so. That's one one positive. I guess and moving onto next weekdays. Dolphins don't even play in a different stadium. They play the giants in the meadowlands down. Just not true they are three and a half point underdogs I I think. It sounds like you're rooting for the blues. We don't know if Archer in Wilson are playing there are there was some other snooze around this team that I actually I have down so Ryan Lewis and Ken Webster. Who are again the practice squad type type of flares that had been starting in playing a lot in the secondary Have both gone. I are Zack. Zender was cuts. They brought in some other guys said said one of them was a patriots. Practice Squad Nate Brooks was the Patriots. Practice squad guy picked up a Jamal. Moll Davis and Adam Panky. Yeah a lot of They're continuing the these guys are probably GonNa play on Sunday as well. So continuing continuing to shuffle. The the roster's like the extended preseason that has been this entire dolphins season continues but yet and we go wide receivers picked up no wide receivers might only have three and one of them is a guy I don't know his name Hollister who h there was some guy out there. I never even heard of added added. I know I don't know is it. Is they afford actually had a good game on Sunday. We didn't talk about that during the recap so forced into action I believe he was leading receiver six catches for ninety two yards on Sunday. If ordering out imagine Ford gets run herds is we'll get into that fantasy camp. He was on my team. Hello New Ford. That's really well. Who would you pick? Who's who would have been the fourth guy after after earns earns Wilson and Parker? That's that's all there is and now we don't have two of those guys it's going to be hearns Ford and the Hollister Hollister then. That's not actually. I'm trying to look up his name because I can't even remember the guy's the poor guy's name. Yeah you're getting ahead of yourself a little bit so we did. We kind of glanced on talk. Oh didn't play on Sunday. There's no injury. Apparently they just. They said they didn't like the act. I don't I don't know I didn't really. I didn't understand standard at all like I don't I don't get it at I. I thought like he had at least from what I've seen. I thought he'd been one of their only like yeah. They claimed it to be a scheme thing. I don't I don't get it. He didn't play Angle Angle. got a sack maybe I I don't know maybe that's because he's healthy. Now maybe they wanna see what they have in him as playing that role I. I don't know I'm I'm going to trust that. They have some kind of bland or what they want to do with this defense it. 'cause obviously can't be what they're they've been rolling out there this year but Yeah I don't I don't know that was. That was puzzling to me. I thought he'd played well at least from what I can tell McMillan Baker played pretty well on Sunday to Um But whatever it doesn't matter it was Flash Mac Holland's Oh yes. They picked him up from the eagles. He actually he he would play. He played for the Eagles decent amount he actually like that good numbers but was used like got games and played for for us he just had one target for no catches and he might be drafted and fantasy camp. Later on the one target was he was wide open. Actually actually on a on a fly route that fitzpatrick under through that would have been a touchdown that led to a it was a passenger. He drew passer fearance. But yeah that was the that was the one targeted yet. So I'm guessing you didn't see that. I did not excellent so dolphins. Let's go into New York or not your New Jersey. The medal lanced. They're playing the giants southern the same stadium The giants are even worse. The jets record wise and probably talent wise ally manning. I believe will start at quarterback. They gave the Eagles pretty decent game on this past Monday night i. It wouldn't be surprised if they beat. That actually would be the worst thing in the world for us that would get us into the top. Three in terms of picks were inching closer. Pick Watch but so the our biggest. Our biggest problem is to the other two of the other four four terrible teams with us. The bengals is Washington and the giants and the NFC East is so terrible that there the W- the Opponents winning percent is the schedules strength of schedule. There's this will never will never win tiebreaker. Against either of those two WHO teams for the draft pick because their strength they might not even be an eight team in that division and we have the Patriots and the bills like ruining our strength strength of schedule. So we're doomed as far as tiebreakers. Yeah but if the giants beat us oh that's true that puts us at the same record as but they play each other. The giants in Washington still play each other once again which is nice. They each and I think I think the giants play the Eagles again and and I think they might both play. The Eagles Eagles are in bad shape right now so it's possible one of them might squeak out another other wins so we'll see how it goes but I think on Sunday admitted if we're going to get into predictions for what we think is going to happen on Sunday. It's this dolphin. Dolphins team is we know what we have talent wise but the fact that they they try so hard in there and they appear to be so well coached. I love this damn team. I know I still love watching like that's the thing I really like the most entertaining. Terrible football team I can. I can imagine so Sunday I think is even this past. Sunday was actually a very. It was difficult to watch in terms of like anything good happening because both teams were so bad but it was entertaining in the fact it was closed in the jets. And you hate them but love watching. Fitzpatrick glade yeah the thing about since it's Patrick has come in and will not since but forgetting those first four games. Those were hard to watch right. We were three and outs the were. It was hike sack hike sack this. We're here we moving the ball. I mean we had. We had yardage it. was you know it wasn't the offense. Moves the ball in which is amazing. Considering the line and the dearth of talent like when when this team this God i I can't wait. Can I kinda just be in a coma Houma. I just want to wake up to just somebody give me a coma. Any is just email me a coma. I just want to wake up in two years when this team is good. Oh you don't want to wake up for the draft. Is there to do. Well I'll I'll be able to read about it'll be on the Internet. Let sure Yeah so so going against this giant seem who admittedly. I don't know a ton about I know. They brought manning back in. They were a little more competitive. Last week I don't don't know much about the wide receivers. I know Barclays having off year Actually they got a rookie slayton. WHO's been tearing it up? He's really yes they have. They have They have a golden tate is back and it should be playing in sterling shepherd so they actually have good receivers. Yeah I don't I think they win. They'd beat us The line is three and a half. They're favored by. I'll give it to you right here. What's that giants? Twenty two dolphins twenty-one same same stadium. Same score all right so we cover. I'm GonNa say Giants Twenty Four. Actually no the giants. This cerebral almost a giant said thirty dolphins twenty not for giants thirty Dolphin. Twenty Four. I think we can win this game. I just don't want to. That's why this is like one of the. That's why I'm not picking them the win. 'cause I don't be surprised if we win but Yeah I don't. I don't think it's going to happen. So data terrible Look ahead to to pick watch as we're getting ready to go into the break which The dolphins actually had some positive. Things happened for us in terms of big watch and we will get into that when we return so. Please stay tuned dude. 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LLC AN SEC registered investment advisor for disclosures into learn how to claim your ten dollars to invest visit www dot stash dot. We're back now. It's time for the most important part of this. Show pick watch all right. So the dolphins losing as we alluded view actually helped us. Because we are Henry One We would have fallen towards the back of the top ten. I believe we would have been picking we would have been in the eighth slot so by losing that gives us a pick four picks higher than that. So we're still at four that keeps us a four which is where we were last week. the other first round picks and we have the Pittsburgh steelers went into Arizona and once again found a way to win so That one remains at twenty two. The Texans lost. They were destroyed by my favorite quarterback draft glass. Hey look for you that. We needed him to play. Well well there we did. He helped us out but Yeah he Did you see his stat line. That was ridiculous. Look good yeah. He looked good and they were. They were good throws. I mean he could be who knows you might have been right. I I'd have been right. I might've been right about something. He he looked good helped us out. Texans lose their draft pick. Doesn't change though it's still the twenty fifth pick in the draft but at least they at least they didn't win that would have been worse so and then they still have to play the titans twice. So there's a chance they missed the playoffs. which would be extremely beneficial for us? All against the steelers missed the playoffs so they could both miss the playoffs and there was two picks inside the top twenty. So what is the Texans record right now. Texas are eight and five and the steelers rating five. They're both eight five so one one of them's so the stats second playoff spot. I mean if the Texans missed the lose to the titans are still. They're still in for the. They're still in for the for the wild car right so they would need to lose twice they're still the AFC the that last wildcard wildcard. AFC could be cut a trick like could be and the titans are in it. I mean here in Texas split like they can both go tenants six. Well basically what. I'm it's GonNa be hard for both of these teams to miss the playoffs. One of them's getting that getting that last not really. They could both missed the playoffs. Taylor's what so they're basically. There's there's only seventy six six fifty five and six buffalo and Pittsburgh with titans tied with Pittsburgh the next one is Cleveland at six and seven and Oakland at six and seven in in India. Six and seven so we one of them one of those three need to run win out. Get to nine and seven and hope that the Texans ends or steelers. Don't win more than one. You only win one or don't win any so it's not like they're playing each other so I mean the titans if the Texans if they lost both games to the titans that would put them at seven losses. I don't know who the other team they play. Is they play the the the the I don't know who their other game is against who they play the steelers Ida the steelers play the bills and the Ravens go on the t t the titans at bucks at Titans Avai could lose. They could lose that they can lose all three of those games. They can very well as as as well as good as the titans are playing. I mean they still might split with them. I mean Houston still a good team. I agree I'm just saying it's not out of the realm of possibility like it's possible saying I'm not saying it's likely but that's what I'm saying is it's it's likely one of those teams is going to make the playoffs and it's possible that they both of them make laughs like that's also possible that would mean the bills do not. Oh no you're right. You're right if the Texoma Texas. Yeah so anyway. The other thing the saints lost to the to the forty in what was a horrendous. What a game didn't that? Also that helped us with our second round pick. That would actually jumped from sixty one to sixty. So the dolphins I the picks of having the first second round and the beginning of the third round. Go like this so they have the fourth pick the twenty second pick the twenty fifth. Pick the thirty six. Pick the sixtieth pick and the sixty eighth picks so one two three four five six picks inside inside the top seventy I'm already starting to go through all kinds of drafts areas in my head of digging even if even if they miss out on chase as young The Ohio state the pass rusher from Ohio state that is widely regarded as the best player in the draft altogether. There's another pass rusher from Iowa. WHO's a top five talent? Aj I don't know how to say his last name Penza. He's like six six to eighty. He's kind of like a bigger defensive end but he's supposed to being a week type of pass rusher. He's somebody that they could target if they don't go after two with that for big everybody's still hasn't going up to away they're going for tool with the fourth I agree. It's Oreilly to start even speculating about this. But I'm just saying I'm saying defensive. Line offensive line by line. Maybe another defensive Lineman if if one of the top tier running backs is available there at the top of the second round. I could see them doing that if they get like that sort of thing. And then they have to more picks editor before the seventieth big so they could you really could maybe get three potential offense of live starters a starter defensive line right and maybe a running back or a safety. Like I'M NOT GONNA lie. I want I want five of those six pigs to be offensive and defensive line I know Oh yeah I think I think our defensive line is actually in a little bit better shape than than we think we had like. We need more help in the in the secondary arena get some just from people getting healthy like getting McCain at Howard back I it's going to be huge. Yeah I know but I think they need I still think they need to draft a a safety or a quarter in one of those like top one of those top seven picks has to be a secondary player. And one thing to mention. We'd have all those was high picks. We don't have a lot of mid picks after that after that sixty eighth pink where we don't we don't have that's top of the third third. We don't have any other thirty two. We didn't have any forth so many picks at the pack of drafting. I'm I'm sure they'll package some of those and move up like I would imagine but if not we're getting depth I mean there's three four five six seven eight. They have eight picks at the back of the draft like four in the fifth yup three in the last three rounds. I'm sure they're gonNA probably package some of those to move up. I would imagine like into the middle of the I've you'd have just guessing but who knows it depends. Who's there I mean? Yeah I mean we're talking like fifteen picks fifteen they have in this draft so switching gears a little bit so I'm looking at the steelers schedule for for pick watch since we're still unpick watch so there's good news and bad news. They play to good teams in one bad ED team correct. They play the bills which is a huge game. which is this week? Then they played up jets. So that's that's a win for them then the good news bad news. They play the Ravens. But it's week seventeen in the ravens have already come out and talked about sitting Lamar in that game because they they probably won't need it so we have seen that. That might be a game. That doesn't matter to the Ravens at the end could be a game that matters to them. Yeah it could be. But that's the way our luck has been at least with the steelers. They seem to be getting. They seem to be getting the breaks to to mess with our pick. So that's like the you see. Oh good the ravens. They have no shot at beating the ravens except the you know it might be. Rg Three and Gus Edwards. I really I would not be shocked if the jets somehow I like this steelers team is not that good. The jets are not beating the steelers. They might they be. They beat some other teams. That are okay. Okay better bet the same talent level. The they'd be Dallas and that's it in the Dallas turns out his terrible Dallas Dallas Alison good in. Also the the raiders. The crushed the raiders. The raiders are also not good either so anyway we'll see we'll see how it all plays out So so getting into the rest of the. NFL picks out. Did I do last week. You didn't do you you you you you you swept you swept all three. You got all three. You had the steelers minus two and a half ravens minus five and a half and Casey plus three you go ahead you are ahead of me. Twenty two nineteen my my by the way. I'm in like a picks pool pool and at the at the height of my crushing you I was I was. I added like fifty people and I've dropped to like thirteenth. So it's like my game. Picking taking his has just fallen off a cliff. Excellent Yeah I love to hear it all right. So let's go through the so. The steelers are at home versus. The bills are actually favored at home. I I like the bills. The steelers are giving to at home Give me the bills in that game and I don't like the bills that much. I definitely only like the bills in this game. And it's just my heart wants the bills anyway so but that's not crazy it's Pittsburgh's at home minus two so they're saying I'm a neutral feel buffalo's better yet but Pittsburgh okay but they're like records are similar. I get it I guess. Yeah I guess are the next one the Houston. Texans are going into Tennessee. Tennessee favored by three at home. Tennessee's hot Houston is not. I don't know how I feel about this. I really don't Tennessee. Hasn't played wait like a really. I mean they did. They beat the chiefs. They beat the chiefs so not only am. I starting layered in a playoff fantasy playoff game. I am also starting starting Ryan Tannehill. Yeah so I watched a decent amount of that Oakland game He's still doesn't look like he's making a lot of the same types of plays that he made here that deep touchdown pass through. I think he's just. He just has more talents around him right now that have well oh put together yeah. He didn't magically become great he. This is what we set a all. This is what we've been saying for two seasons. The team matters around the quarterback as well as coaching as well as blocking having a running game. He's we never. We never said he was like Italian. Terrible yeah they just didn't have. They didn't have the team around him. He's yeah he's look pretty good I feel like he kind of let us down But this'll be this is this. Is it like like he's got. This is a big game for him. Right yeah all the rest of this whole stretch. So yeah we'll see I who do you like in the game the titans are you like attacks. I liked the titans. I'm just I'm just it's more again. It's heart heart and and they're playing. Well yeah they'll take it. Won't we'll be shocking if they lose but you know I'm pulling Vorm. There will coach at that. Time seems well codes rebels. A good coach defense plays well. They don't they don't beat themselves and the Texans accents are not well coached they are not that is correct. All right so the other one is the Indianapolis Colts at the New Orleans. Saints New Orleans favored by nine at home. This is for a second round draft pick that we have. The colts have kind of fallen off without T. Y.. Hilton they. They really look bad. They didn't have Marlin Matt for a while but he's back. He came back last week against Tampa. Yeah Tampa James. Winston was giving them that game they still woah still can win the to me. I feel I. I'd go with the saints and lay the nine. Yeah Yeah Yep we'll take all right so we're recording Thursday night. The jets were already destroyed by Baltimore. Baltimore was favored by Almost seventeen points at home. They only one by twenty one. They they did they cover that sprint. So not shocking there Baltimore I think you would swell by Baltimore. Almost covered the over by themselves. The over one hundred was forty five. They had four his Tampa Bay buccaneers at Detroit. Lions Detroit getting three and a half at home box bucks. You like the bucks. Yep Eagles and Redskins redskins getting four and a half at home taking the redskins taking the skins. That'll be one for one for us. All right all right you got the home dog. Are Chicago bears at Green Bay. A packers Green Bay Favored by four and a half at home. Bears are trying to turn it around a little bit of you hate your Bisky. You taking the packers here you have course I can't i. I can't rationally. I shouldn't be allowed to pick any game with the bears because I can't rationally. Ever think trubisky will play well and it does for about four games a year so I will take Green Bay. Alright I'll take I'll take great l.. Go Green Bay We come back to that one. I might take the bears all right New England at Cincinnati Cincinnati. Getting almost ten nine and a half at home. How is this not fourteen? I don't I know the Patriots have played have been have been bad like their offense they have no wide receivers. Offense is not clicking. Brady doesn't isn't trust these guys and I still don't understand why this isn't like thirteen. They also the Patriots. Also don't get to use the videotape that they have on the bengals because it was confiscated. So Oh yeah like yeah. I'm sure he does. They don't have another copy so since they lost their cheating formula. You say you're taking the the pats here Yup. Hey I'd love it. See The bengals win. If they come of. I don't think they're going to win. I think they might cover the Patriots. I just don't see them blowing anybody out anymore like they're just not that good it's in Cincinnati. I I don't know I'M NOT GONNA I'm not gonNA take the bengals. We'll skip onto the next one SEATTLE seahawks at Carolina Panthers Carolina. Getting six at home I I like the seahawks. The fantasy hawks. Yes by the way. Start Your Chris not if you have Chris Carson you're starting anyway but banters actually have. They might worst run defense than the dolphins pennies out for the year. Chris Carson's going to run amok. The Denver Broncos at Kansas City chiefs chiefs favored by ten broncos and drew lock going into Arrowhead. You want your boy no no. I'm I'm tempted to take it. Although I'm tempted get played. Well at least you know. And the chiefs have not looked like the chiefs Lino no like the super chiefs but yeah defenses playing better though. That's like that makes them rent. Gary is if Mahomes of that offense get get going in the defense is is capable. They could make a run at this. I could see I match up well with the Ravens of anybody's GonNa take the Ravens out the AFC. I think Fried Kansas City city. But we'll see all right Jacksonville Jaguars at Oakland. Raiders raiders favored by six. And a half. What a terrible game? That's going to be. The Jaguars defense is awful. Like they have just fallen apart that team. That's given up yet. But the Oakland raiders also given up. So That's interesting Like Oakland a win. That's a lot of points but at all and it's probably the last game in Oakland I would. I would have to gun to my head. I'd take the raiders but I don't I think yeah yeah. I think you're right there all right Cleveland Browns at Arizona cardinals cardinals getting two and a half at home and the BROWNS are bad. Too I give you the cardinals you know I'm Kinda I was leaning meaning that way too. I thought this might be a game. We we might have to. We only have the one or did we ended up with two. We have the we have one. We have eagles reds are wait. Yeah he will. I might take the bears by take the bengals. If we don't get anything else but what do you think Zona I am thinking Arizona sonal Minnesota Vikings in Los Angeles chargers chargers favored by our Vikings favored by two and a half. The chargers are the the whole dog in Los Angeles. I think I would take the Vikings and lease six. I like this line. Kinda baffles me. There's no the chargers destroyed the Jaguars Jaguars last week and it was. The Jaguars are awful. They are the vikings are good. Y- I like the Vikings Atlanta Falcons at San Francisco Forty read either San Francisco favored by ten. And a half. Actually like the Falcons to cover here. I'll take the forty. I agree because of the whole like you know these guys is this division plays themselves tough and but this is not they're not divisional opponents. No you're right but there used to be back in the eighties. He's like Dion Sanders was playing. That's probably what I was thinking of. But I I would take the forty niners here a few if you want. The Falcons the Falcons in the points of Los Angeles Rams at Dallas Cowboys Dallas. How many points do not have to change? What are they have? No for the Falcons. Oh ten and a half. I had to switch to type that in all right. So what did you say now a rams at cowboys one and a half you know I'm all over the rams. The cowboys are terrible. The rams have found have discovered that if you let girly runamuck they that makes them better. I would take it really. You can't run amok but they're definitely going to be Dallas. It's wanted to half. Yeah I like the rams all right so the other ones so we need one more game so you want bears plus four and a half. I'll take the bears. Yeah all right I get I get my comeback. I get the lead again. I think he probably will think you're right. All all right I didn't want it before we go to break. We don't have read about their I did want I. We touched on it. I made a joke about about the patriots in their in their cheating Do I have to go to the bathroom. You're going on a long range here. It's not going to be great. I just I just want to. I want I actually. I want somebody what else take on this because like I like my mind is just blown. Like if you're like you can. I tweeted this from our from our twitter at she. Blow a Capital city you're going nuts. You're you're like you were like. Why are they all in jail? I just I don't like as I am a parent like at like. I'm sure that's come up on this podcast at some other point like if if my child is like like just blatantly like not but following the rules and like shoving my face like that like they they get punished severely okay but can the repeatedly repeatedly repeatedly with the cameras. The prop way. This is the problem with your analogy. CADEL is not their parent. He he works for them he go del Gets his paycheck from the from the owners if the if the if the owners right the the other thirty one like pissing all over the rest of the other thirty one or not screaming. Then there's nothing he's not GonNa do a damn thing and those guys don't share they're cashing their checks and half of them might be cheating too. They're just not getting caught as often or they don't they're not as good at it. I guess it's it's just weird like you never hear about this like the only team you ever like. Have you ever. Has It ever come up for anyone else. Yeah that time there Atri. It's did it I just I. It's the same thing to like. That's what's like the most like like like it's not even like there's deflate gate which is ridiculous but there's the that's not even a thing. DEFLATEGATE was stupid but I agree. It was stupid but there's just like the video cameras come on like I mean it's just like repeatedly the spy gate was real with the rams and they lost Dra- like first round draft picks because of the jets there was the one with the rams was the super bowl that ESPN published a story saying that they were as speculation that the the Patriots were recording their practice but then he came back and said that that was eroneous that never happened really they. Ah they did but they said years after the fact and now it's just like they're still getting in trouble for videotaping things. So was it really eroneous but not at the NFL. That Ramstein was real. Like if you watch that the super bowl they had no business winning against that Super Rams theme like they were times where they like they were jumping routes like. They knew what was happening. That was that was more than just coaching in bell checks. A great coach the best best coach in in the game right now but you know what He. He's taken some advantages that probably were not vote. Legal this is what I'm like. What are like what are scandals in sports where like people have been severely punished right like like Pete rose gambling like where he was banned for life like to me? This is like this is just. This is what we know about. These are only the things that have come to light like. Can you imagine like what's been happening this entire time. But here's the thing let's we're talking about. Let's let's go back to to talking about who goodell works for these guys. Don't WANNA scandal the other thirty one. Don't WANNA scandal. They don't care they don't want the NFL shield tarnished with scandal. They would rather just be like in their closed-door meetings like Yeah Yeah Bill. Don't do that anymore and this news to do it. Yeah well you know what you know what. It's good for the game to have the Patriots the Patriots as as much as sucks for us. Look this is a business. This ain't this ain't fair. This is this is billionaires making billions of dollars this is. That's all that matters here. I don't know man I've never been one of those like I don't even like I've been on on air saying I don't even hate the Patriots that much like the teams I hate. Are The jets. The bills like I hate them way more than I hate the Patriots. I don't know why it's just. That's growing up as a dolphins fan. Those the teams I hated. Oh now I hate the Patriots more than I hate the Patriots I just like I don't I don't see them the same way that I see the jets in the bills like the Patriots to me. They're like I don't care how many rules win. I don't care how good they're like how long they're good for like they're still to me. They're still like a joke of a football team like they just like. I don't know why I don't know why that's insane. Because they're they're they're they're one of the best. This one of the best runs of football teams any the best friends in sports history period like unprecedented. But also. Now there's all kinds like weird like who knows what the hell they've been doing this entire time. They've been winning winning by cheating. Maybe I it's just it's just it's odd I don't know it just really irked me like it doesn't really make a difference but people. Why are they cheating against the bengals ravens who they could be just probably been cheating the entire time they just? I only get caught every once in a while. Who maybe maybe like? That's what I'm saying like if they're like it's the bengals right like why like that just to me. That just means that they're just doing this all the time. But that's just what that's what this means to me out anyway End rant. Sorry sorry go off the tangent. I'm not like one of those like Patriot hating conspiracy theories you know type of fans I just I I just don't yes weird. I don't know it was really really the fact that it was the bengals. I wrap up the ramp. Take us to the brink. Sorry the factors the BAGELS. The fact that it's the same thing over and over again. It's just it's just really strange to me but anyway yes rant over. Stay itunes when we come back fantasy camp life seeking. Hey I'm Jason Dell right. I recently only wrapped up the land of the giants the rise of Amazon. In this podcast we examine how Jeff bezos turned a small online bookseller into one of the most powerful companies in the world. We start by exploring how Amazon prime became a service with over one hundred million members and the main source of the company's power. I mean I think that's kind kind of what Amazon's banking on right. You're just so often that you're gonna go to any other sites because I mean I don't and we end the season by pondering. The question is Amazon too. You big you know. We just don't WanNa be the United States of Amazon. We just really don't land of the giants has been recommended by the New York. Times axios wired and more more. It's a candidate. Look at the state of Amazon today. How we got here and what the future might look like? The entire first season is out. Now find out more. Four and binging on Apple podcasts. Or your favorite podcast APP back all right now. It is time for my favorite part of the show. Fantasy camp Man I crushed you. Yes it was not a good week for I'm the Chosen Rosen's right that's neighbor my team. That is new parliament Wilson about a good week for the chosen resins Ziad. I bake and I take devante Parker and he only produced three points wasn't nice. Catch the herd on that. Did you see that where watching at that point I did. Yeah I I could tell us. It is the way he went down and the way he got up I was like oh he's confessed. Yeah I wasn't good yeah Yeah the not. That would have made a difference but you actually. You actually went controversial. You took Wilson over hearns. It was it was an eight point. Swing which wouldn't have made a difference because I had to when you had seven seven seven like honestly week one week one too. I had four points and seven points. Never this is this is the those are the only time single digits in fantasy camp but it was injury took my first two picks got hurt like what it was. It was injury related. It was it was said it was so so just for those of you who are wondering what the Hell we're talking about talk. Dolphins fantasy camp is a game that Robin I play every week where we draft to fantasy. Football teams comprised entirely of Miami Dolphins skill position players. It's been extremely challenging. There's been some weeks where it's been respectable. There's been other weeks like last week. where I took Devante Parker and Albert Wilson and basically got no points so Yeah tough tough tough week for me. I'm still winning in the series. I believe it's seven to six now rob making a last minute charge at me in a row so we alternate who picks first every week this week. Rob Has one. That's a enviable first. Pick of the Miami Dolphins Fantasy Camp draft so rob. What are you going to do so because we were down to? Almost no players and Parker was such a breakout. It really came down to the last three weeks. It was like the WHO had parker was winning and I broke that chain obviously because part last week because Parker Harker in got hurt and destroyed you but now that it's my turn I don't know if Parker's playing and we discussed this off off air and we decided decided we're drafting our teams now and if Parker plays you get him if he doesn't you don't which means I am taking layered. You're you're taking layered I I Let's have we we were. We were bantering about this off the air. We were kind of jokingly saying that we take Ryan Fitzpatrick running stats to be running back. Yeah we're not allowing that because that's ask because that's probably be better than even layered. We're not allowing that. No no I wouldn't. I wouldn't have taken a layered. I okay right all right fair enough all right so that's not actually happening fair enough so you took layered so now I get you picks. I'm GONNA take devante Parker and Mike Asaki so I am getting. Oh Man I'm getting hearns and Ford again. Oh I didn't realize I just left that open open for you. Oh yeah all right so herdsmen Ford and not sexy and so you. You're getting hot. It's no gas and I'll take Wilson I mean all right so well the last guy you can you can swap out of. He doesn't play because it's the I'm gambling on on Parker playing if Wilson doesn't play actually if either one of them play can I have Holland's. Yeah yeah if any F anyone doesn't play you get to go to the waiver wire if we know beforehand all right. Yeah so if either one of them around I'll I'll take Holland. And and if they're both out Allen's new you know if they're both at Hollins and whoever the other the fourth wide receiver is and Oh my God. I totally forgot the other running backs ax name. Because he's terrible. There's another running back. No the guy. You're going to the afterlife thank you yeah I know we were just talking talking about name all terrible like like there's any one of them are good like they're all bad. They're all very bad very very bad so I have all right. So that is Let's see so you have hearns. And Ford is wide receivers layered and not Seki. I Have Parker Wilson Koseki and gas skin. That is not that is chosen. Rose in versus fits Magic's week one week. One I had Drake Wilson Listen Grant and O'Leary versus your Balaj Parker hearns and Guess Seki nobody who drafted Press Williams and he was the one they got a touchdown crush me I did. Oh yeah because Parker actually had some points. Well I had four points out of those guys not not yet good times alright. So watchman you Are you current. I am current by the way nothing makes me happier than you. bitching about the watchmen and then having them totally answer your question or like fix what you were bitching about. It happened like a couple of weeks ago and you didn't. You didn't like the episode. That was coming and was totally an episode. You love and even now like to. I don't even remember. I did like one though I I did like it. May it answered my questions but if you remember the things that I was bitching about I was like why would he come back like there has to be a good reason for him to come back he fell in love. That's not a good reason to me. Love love is the stupidest is the reason in every stupid show. It's always this omniscience like all power. He's worn dog. He's always been a horn dog. I Yeah I mean that part I kind of like I'm like okay. It's just it seemed kind of weak and easy but but really what. I really really didn't like about it was was was him getting captured at the end like that was to me. That was just I just I. I don't know like I just. He sees it happening. It doesn't mean it doesn't he doesn't change it. He knows it but they're also setting up like him giving his powers over to Hertz words you which is like like. It's like very obvious that that's what's going to happen. Like I feel like it just didn't work for me. I don't know it's okay. But here's do you live with the character at all whining about things. That didn't happen yet. Because every time you do that you've been wrong so just just absorb absorb it from what I was wrong. I was wrong one time but even like last night we were like. Oh I don't like to document how he went to He. They said he was going to go. Do live why. Didn't he do that. And then they totally explained that he got bored with it and it was actually was. Actually I did like that. Amazing heartbreaking king just seeing those people where their God abandon them in like it really explain that whole world. There was well done. Yes yeah yeah Even explain why vite ended up there but the fact that he's trapped there is weird. I don't know there's just it just doesn't seem like that was cool but still like the whole show is like like I feel like there's like there's really cool aspects of it and then there's like other parts just like like it's just a let down you know what I mean like. Some parts of it are awesome and then like other parts of it are just like I like it all your you just don't like it because it didn't go the way you wanted or does it get something in your weird head and your baby. That's I'm totally. I'm not gonNA argue totally being like nerd fan boy stuff that I like actually hate most of the time I just. I don't know like I did. Maybe I didn't realize how much I actually enjoyed the original source material like I like I never really liked thought of it. Like that. Like is like is like being like what I like most cherished or like like you know like one of the things that I really love the most like watching them like washing the liberties. They're taking with the source. Material is really bothering me. They're not taking any liberties with the source material. This is all twenty years later. There's only like two characters two and a half half of you count hooded justice that even that even her in both now man i. It's just it's a it's it's not bad like it's really well it's really well acted. It's it's really well written. It's I need I need I need a whiny drop so I don't have that's fine. Yeah I'm I'm not even fighting with you. I'm totally being whining about it. 'cause it's a really it's a well-made show it's good it's just I don't know for some reason it just really like I'm not normally one. That's really like tied to that kind of stuff. Like where I get. Get Mad about like no you do star wars to no I. Don't I liked. I like the things that they do wanNA fight with people who don't like it no no I no. I'm not I definitely no definitely not but either way. I don't know this wasn't I'm more. I'm Moore said the Silicone Valley ended. I actually didn't realize that was the last episode and I'm going to start it on Mike. Oh my God is this the last episode and they rapid job that was actually pretty cool will a job. But that's been great from San Fantastic. You'll foils awesome. Yeah he's he's. He's most people's favorites favorite's kicks ass delays like fighting like do the right thing enough and that was the most courageous act of cowardice. I've ever seen so good. That was all yeah it was it was well done well. Well done that was. That's a great show was a great ending due to a phenomenal show I am looking forward to seeing how they tie the watchman altogether but I don't know I just just she's not not completely working for me. So you're you like all of it I'm in because you have no problem with any of this stuff. No you go for the ride man. You can't first of all you have to wait until you have to wait till it ends you you. You can't bitch about something they might. They might actually fix it. Finish it or explain it some of this because honestly some of the best best movies and I'll say TV shows. I guess but some of the best movies I've ever seen are the kind that while you're watching it like you're enjoying enjoying it but you like that one thing bothers me like they wouldn't have done it that and but you kind of let it go 'cause it's really well done and then then then the big twist sort of reveals why that was and that was like a huge part and it make sense and you're like it makes it so much better. Yeah and it's not like I said it's it's not bad it's a very very good show. They've done a very very good job with it. I don't know why I don't know why there's just certain things bother me about. WHO's your baby? Maybe I typically don't whine about these kinds of things though so but yeah I mean I'll I'll one hundred percent on it. I know that I'm being alive. I mean you could say that but the listeners really only know you as a whiny baby no. I'm pretty most of the time this stuff I'm talking about. Are Things things that I that I liked that the fan. I'm so yeah okay. We can no one if we get like four votes for that. What what I'd be? I'd probably like two or three people listening at this point. Well I'll vote for you. Is whining baby. I will all vote the other way. So that'll be one to one taper. Then I'll vote for you not as a whiny baby so you should. So are you going to watch the dolphins football game on Sunday. Rob I I may not watch it life while I'm in town on the twenty seconds for the Bengals game. We're watching coaching that together. I'll watch with you. Maybe we'll live podcast. I like that idea. I like that idea. Well I will be watching on Sunday. Screw you trader. I'm watching on Sunday and I'm rooting for the dolphins. Even though I don't want to watch 'cause I whatever man I I mean it's like you said like we'll we'll see that there's there's a lot of things to be play out. We'll see how it goes. I still think they lose on Sunday. regardless I think the giants is just heard illiterates terrible. He is terrible but you know what he's got. His Office of line is made up of dot practice. Squad guys is he has. He's got some day of saquon Barkley who's not been good. This year due to the CM are emmy dolphins. He hasn't been great this year. He hasn't played against are really really good defense. We help allow Paul donder hundred. It was the highest rushing total for a bridge. That's running back all season. You realize how I know gays didn't want bell. But how can he not figure out how to use them. I mean the guy's talented. Yeah like even if you don't run the ball like he's an amazing pass catcher and blocker walker like he's Whatever it just it's great? I don't care I love seeing them wasted. It's it's really good. Yeah that's I mean that's just to me that's just another other. That's just another re- another proof of how terrible gaces and as a person to coach. Yeah he's He's not missed. We're starting to see lots of evidence of the players that he had here and then going on to perform exceptionally well elsewhere improving that there were pieces in place here. He just did not put them in places to succeed. It's one fifteen in the morning. I have a crap to do in the morning I have to work. I'm tired I hate you. Well thank you for a Good Sport Rob and thank you all for sticking around Ed Listening to US ramble on as we're exhaustive kind of drunk. We really appreciate it. Let's go lose a close one.

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Josh Jacobs Top 5 + DeVante Parker One of a Kind w/ Jordan McNamara

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Josh Jacobs Top 5 + DeVante Parker One of a Kind w/ Jordan McNamara

"We should think about Adam Gates. That's Gross. Did you just slip into the two? I'm sorry I know that's really corny. Also explains your tweet with the sheep. It hurts me a little bit you Allan. You are now locked to the clock dodgers. Podcast Walk to the cloud guys podcast. I'm your host Neal. You know I didn't come alone though with me as always Adam who I look at as the James White podcast mister high floor was Adam. Hey Man I'm running back. We can guess the Footba love exactly right the no complaining here now you know. We can't forget that. We also have josh who I kind of feel as Carlos. Hyde of the PODCASTS. At them Kinda would give us. That was disrespectful. This man you're consistent. You're always there. You'RE NOT FLASHY. We try to those a deliberate Duke. Ever never man you so when you get the job done. Josh. It's not just today guys as we've done all offseason. We have special guests on today's podcast. He's the author of the analytics of dynasty books as he writes. He's an author so much more accomplished in a gentleman in that regard he also has his own podcast called the analytics dynasty as well. Welcome to the clock dodgers podcast Jordan. How're you doing today sir? Yeah guys thanks for having me on. I'm glad to be here good week. combine week and. I'm happy to talk some dynasty with absolutely combines. Got Everybody on twitter talking. It's got everyone talking but you know this is what comes with. The territory. Seem exciting to see how it all plays out right now. He's measurements or drop in and everyone's going up and down and mood swings about it all but we'll get into it. We'll get into it a little bit Today's episode Jordan is. I feel like it's a little more strategy focused past episodes and what we've been doing is more player focused. But you know as I see a little change of pace and kind of you know in the offseason see how you attack things how you approach things kind of wraps up in that a little bit to kind of change. The PACE can be fun. So many different What do you like to do though for the for the people listening for the clotted out? There listening you know. They already know how me Josh Adam. How WE ATTACK THE GAME? Fantasy how we approach everything but just everyone has some context. How would you describe your approach to you know dynasty and Fantasy General Jordan? That's a great question. So I I've played dynasty for like probably twenty. I did the math on. This is probably close to twenty five years now and in a couple years ago I decided I was going to get into DFS. And I want to play some. Dfs wait a couple of weeks of it just didn't feel comfortable with the numbers side of it And so I said all right. We'll do it in the off season so that offseason was going to be like the county or two thousand eighteen so I did a whole bunch of research like February January and I was like just looking for DFS and Just thinking DFS stuff. And as I kept doing the research Just a cap coming back to dynasty. And so if I were to describe my in so and actually all that research ended up being the genesis for the Analytics Dynasty one or the twenty one point over the book And people have asked me like do you have a general strategy and I'm I'm just like I just I'm just looking for efficiency like give me the most efficient thing at. Let's find places where we can find efficiency I would say generally speaking. I'm a I tend to look at players more a At the profile that they represent instead of like the player name. So you know for example like give me give me successful profiles And I'm and I'll look for players that reflect that profile instead of trying to tip pick individual players that I like or dislike so that's generally how I play and I I look at you know trying to build more long-term You know highly effective strategies along those lines. Gotcha and are you. Are you doing all your own work and trust in your work hundred percent? Are you open to the ideas of other people or you just Kinda have a system that you put a lot of work into and you just going to abide by it one hundred percent. I'm totally closed minded. No I know I. I think there's a lot of good work they're out in the marketplace and I In a one one place that I really look for like ideas is is other work and so whether it's basketball or like almost non fantasy football work to like whether it's basketball or I think there's a lot of stuff we can glean from the NBA for example But no there's there's just this week. I referenced out my podcast. An article that someone at wrote a visit written And it sort of touched on some of the stuff that I talked about my book but took a totally different like it. Came at it from a different. I think we came to the same conclusion but came at it from a different angle and it was like really interesting so and whenever I get those opportunities I love to highlight them And Yeah so I I. I'm looking for any any idea that works. I'll try so I think there's a chance that will work. I'll try it guys. I'm open to all sorts of ideas cool. Yeah it's important that you know some people I don't want to close minded but there are some people who are you know very like you know into their thing. And that's understandable. You know a lot work into it but It's good that you're open minded toward other people's stuff. Now you mentioned that you had the Twenty Nineteen Book. You have the twenty twenty version out now. Right Yep Twenty. Twenty version is out now. Okay and what exactly you know if someone's purchasing this someone's like hey this guy sounds like he knows his stuff. I should go get this book. What what is it that you know? They're going to expect to either learn. Come Away with that. They're going to get a yearbook. Yeah so the the twenty. Nineteen edition was essentially. The and I actually still have it on sale at my at my website. Analytics a dynasty dot com slash shop. And I put it on sale for twenty dollars when I released twenty twenty edition so the two point. Oh version of the book. I did a sale of the twenty nine hundred addition that's more like the overview of dynasty and I had people of all levels that that bought it. You know guys that play in hundreds of leagues guys that were Guys and Gals that plan hundreds leagues or some that? Just play in one or two. Were just starting up. So it's a I think it's applicable to anyone And I actually think there's nine dynasty and non Yeah you can use it for redrafting. Dfs Too I just come from a dynasty background So that's more of like an overview like it gives you strategies on drafting and And the whole dynasty experienced Gotcha The twenty twenty edition actually came When I wrote the twenty nine hundred edition there wasn't any super flex data And that was the question that everyone asks was. What's it say about super flex and I just didn't have super flex data there just wasn't any historical data? Fortunately I got my hands on Adp going back to two thousand fourteen. So it's not a robust sample. But it's I think it's enough to make some critical Critical observations in terms of value and pacing the position and those sorts of things And so I wrote a ton on super flex about a quarter my books on Super Flex As looked different ideas to like I I want to look at the progress of players and how they hit And so I looked at. I have a lot of base rate chapters which have a chapter base rates which just analyzes players that haven't hit yet And sort of gives you an odds of what they will hit based on their pedigree and experience in the NFL. And then I do the flip side of that which is once a player hits. You know how dances so how how deep you know how. How many hits do they get? How dances that hit And so that's that's a big chunk of the book and asked walks through the two thousand nineteen rookie draft. Because I thought it was a fascinating way to look at drafting rookies. Because it was it was a quote down class. I think that's a little bit of a misnomer but I looked at the whole the whole class and and went through the whole thing and I identified discography takeaways that we can take towards future drafts. And then I did some work on roster construction a lot of it. A lot of what I think about is about more efficient rosser construction builds so I looked it. I did a lot of simulations and came to. I think some interesting contrarian and I think valuable conclusions about about drafting in about the type of Position allocation and types of positions. You should look for different points in the draft. So yeah you can find it all one hundred pages On the number the twenty twenty addition as you can find that at antics dynasty dot com slash shop. Gotcha yes pretty cool. How the tweet? Nineteen book isn't like an outdated version of something into the new twenty twenty just a new version so it's actually they both still have value and there will still worth yet in this school. How you're doing that. Is that what you plan to keep doing? Just each year. Put out a new book and update strategies that whereas you're just limited to you know as far as new things come out and we things come out or I haven't told my wife yet thinking about right in the third edition so we'll just keep that among France get now. It's funny because I when I wrote the twenty nine hundred addition. I didn't expect to write a second one and I just didn't. It was going to be an Evergreen. One off type deal is going to be done and then you know just things kept coming up. I suspect like I love some stuff on the cutting room floor just because I couldn't fit it in in terms of how I wanted to build the two thousand twenty dishes. I suspect I haven't started writing any of that yet but I suspect there will be twenty twenty one edition. Of course lew forward with your podcast is that is that more. Like elaborating on the book or is it totally. Different stuff is a more in the moment stuff. Is it more? You know how. How would you describe that as far as if someone's getting the book? What is the value podcast is bringing in? What were you doing there for people? Yeah so I think the PODCAST is It's just me. And jokingly say I don't have any production or anything I don't I don't have any music. I just talked dynasty. And it's a I I take a different. I think a little bit different. Look at things. I don't talk a ton about the book but I sort of come at it from the basis of the book I guess And so I just looking at different things with with things that are going on and and the in the dynasty marketplace I look at you know I try and look at some polls and stuff each week And then get just different ideas that are going on. I I'm trying to do a new series Where I look different article each week in terms of you know that that article from Rove is that I talked about earlier like do that each week. Yeah just look at different things about what's going on in the news and just try and take a different angle on it and patriots. I Patriot dot com slash analytics dynasty. Where I do more like book centric work. I would say like it's more. It's all audio stuff. Most of its audio stuff. But I have like I don't have I don't have rankings per se because I think they're tough to they don't exactly convey what I'm trying to convey so I have something I call my dynasty tears which looks at players and groupings and looks players in different inaudible different of contexts to try and identify value on them. So you can find all that at my patriots side as well. Gotcha Yeah Adam Jokes here that I'm not much of a reader so maybe he should make an audio book to man so I didn't on that action I it's funny people have said that to me. They're like you should do an audio book. And I like I saw the actual editing process for the book is me sitting in a room with my editor and reading it aloud and I swear at like it's the worst thing that it's it's horrible like it's a horribly it's I mean I trust him and he's not like he's getting embarrassed me or anything but it is the most humiliating thing to have to read it out loud like. I'm horrible reading out loud so no one wants to listen to me. They were joking that I should get Morgan. Freeman into outside the That's hilarious you. Never know maybe for next year just an idea. Just floating out there I I think you know just answering those questions. Kinda Kinda give people an idea of what? You're doing the content. You're doing your you know the way you approached this stuff. Josh Inaugural Josh. A little more specific. I think he had a few questions about some of the stuff that you do specifically with the book in the end the podcasts whatnot but All at Josh into that. And then we'll go into some of the other segments. Do here on the podcast. So Josh Okay. Okay so the first thing I wanted to ask was is your. Your primary thing is warped. Right wins over. Replacement player is in the. When I I wrote the book I was interested in like. There's so many ways that you can look at identifying players and but I wanted like at one general currency so like a a running back. Twenty-three finish in a wide receiver. Twenty-three finish does things are different in terms of how we should think about them in the value of them. So I did create warped and I look at a lot of it through that. Lens like my a lot of the roster construction a lot of those things it is. It is based on warp which is wins over replacement player. And it just tells you how many how many wins a player will add over the replacement players during the first Thirteen weeks through the regular season of fantasy football. And then I have a I guess. A related thing which is called a warp which is war but factors in the the starter rate of players During the season and it gives you a little bit more indication of like the true value and however players like truly helping you During the season yeah. I think that's really interesting. So one thing I wanted to ask about war while there's do players maintain a war over a long period of time or is it just up and down year to year to year. Yeah I think it's positionally it's a little bit different and so like one thing that I think is is like pretty interesting in terms of consistency. Is I think. Kinda what you're getting at is consistent. Players are your ear And what you'll see is like receivers for example like the high end guys like they'll be consistent year-over-year Mike Evans or like Jarvis Landry. Those guys are almost plug and play like top. Twenty four receivers Almost at worst at this point in their career They have been at least. And but you'll see a lot of fluctuation week to week just because inherently the wide receiver position is a highly is highly influx Just because of targets and touchdown rate and all the things that go into scoring. It's just it's a high amount of volatility. Weak the weak so those guys have a lot of I would say generally consistent. You're every year but you'll see flood fluctuation week-to-week Running backs it's you. Tend to get the like the part of this draft. That's really compelling to me is you'RE GONNA get guys at like twenty one years old that are coming in that are going to be not necessarily round one. Maybe you'll one that'll sneak in around one but you're going to get multiple cracks in round two of the NFL draft at guys that are going to that. Data can be twenty one year old rookies with really good profiles in like the war. The warp implications of those especially in the rookie draft context is just pretty massive in terms. Of what you can do in fantasy so yeah I mean it. The different positions have different tracks in terms of warp. It it'll fluctuate ear but But yeah I mean like there will be different. I guess I would say a different age curb in terms of how players or increase or anything like that by position. Okay that's that makes sense to me then. So you touched on this already but a base rate is is that sort of like a player's chance of hitting exactly what it is and it's based on so. I talk in the book about like the base rate of a player and I wanted to know like in the first book I looked a lot like. Hey you know. Wide Receiver third-round wide receiver like twenty three percent of the time I think is what the number is and so I wanted to know like all right well so it was like the first book that I wrote and then as I started thinking about it more I said well what as as we a year goes by without them hitting. What's that mean are how does how does that rate moves And then you know two years go by three years go by so you sort of look at those and it will sort of it'll change. It'll obviously go down The more time that goes by without hitting your your base rate or your hit rate goes down And it but the fascinating part is that it's different by position it's really different by pedigree so you'll see different positions and indifferent and different NFL draft pedigrees will will change how players perform. Okay so I gotta I gotta ask says if a player goes deep into their career before they finally hit does that. What's the density of that hit? Yeah so the funny part is like there's not a ton of like there's not a ton of guys that hit outside of your five devante Parker's yeah so devante. Parker is a fascinating one like devante. Parker is the first wide receiver and I went back to two thousand so the first the first wide receiver this century that was drafted in the first round the NFL draft. That missed the first four years of his career and then hit near five. It's the first time that's ever happened. you've seen a couple of guys do that in your four And so you'll see guys that missed the first three years and hitting your four. Those guys were historically Peter. Work Michael Crabtree. But after year three first round wide receivers don't hit that often right there spent. I think three them. Now that have done it So that's a really like that's a pretty cautionary tale book is like You know Mike Williams or Corey Davis or Like we'll fuller those types of guys. It's pretty cautionary about about what Sir track might be in their career. But we don't have a ton of sample and you'll see like there'll be a massive out like for example. Alex Smith like hitting. Your thirteen was the first time he hit For a season. So you don't really see a ton of hits outside of like initial hits outside. Lick your five But yeah they just have lesser time to be dance six years and you hit you just have lesser opportunity. Be Dense than guys that hit at twenty one twenty two years old. Okay for May that clears up like what your work is quite a bit. Yeah we just created the audiobook. Congratulations right now. We just audio book recording on you. Buddy we'll be producing that for you next year now like that. Sorry as cool so like I said I mean it just kind of gives you the background because there's a lot that goes into your work you know you got the book. You got the podcast. I feel like it's always fair that when the guests comes on some people just jumped straight into things and I think it's important for the guests to kind of you know understand their work where they're coming from where they're where they're creating value at so she's a point. That's why you know felt you know it was good to go over all that kind of stuff with you. What we're GONNA do now is we're going to jump into some of the The normal segment that we do on the show. The first one is trust issues For anyone WHO's not familiar with trust issues basically We have players or situations or You know kind of multiple choice things here of things that are going on our players that are going on and I'm going to just see how much we trust the situation. Basically so if you trust it a lot you know. There's no trust issues if you're concerned about it. You don't feel great about something. You KINDA WANNA back off of and there's just trust issues with it. so The first one we have here is Super Athletic College under producers drafted in the second round becoming a wide receiver one We're looking at guys like term McLaren. Deebo SAMUEL WE'LL Jordan start. You know you have trust issues with guys like these or do you. Trust THEM. Generally speaking so pedigree. Nfl draft pedigree. Such a huge deal in terms of looking at looking at wide receivers in particular. Like so you have to be really really selective day. Two guys And you know you'll you'll see about twenty five percent of them will hit But you have to be really you don't want to be in on a lot of these guys typically And so as a rule I almost fade them until they et Just because just because the hit rates are so low once they once they. It's a little bit different in terms of how I treat them But yeah guys like Terry maclaurin. I think you can sell I think you can kind of sell him Pretty I think you could sell him high at this point right now. I don't. I don't love the the long-term profile Deebo Samuel similarly situated. I mean he's He would be a player that I would probably be willing to move on. I didn't love the profile coming in as a twenty three year old rookie so You know I would probably be willing to to you. Know if you're getting twenty four. Adp Return on. That would be born to move off of that right now as interesting. I know the guys here are big fans of both those guys And Josh specifically we depot right Josh. So how'd you feel about what you were just with diva? It hurts me a little bit. I guess I guess it goes to the conversation about how much year one. Nfl production matters yet. So here's if there was if I was going to sort of go the flip side of that has sort of arguing against myself If you if there's a wide receiver on day two that has day to the NFL draft around to around three that produces a wide receiver. Three finish so between wide receiver twenty-five wide receiver thirty six and their rookie year. Historically they have one hundred percent hit rate of producing a top twenty four season at some point later in their career. So guys like guys like deebo would check that box terry. Maclaurin except box Sodas decay metcalf and so I think if you sort of were to take the opposite end of that like I think. That's a pretty good. The sample sizes huge. But I think that would be the You know where I would look to say. Okay that's that would be the positive range but if you look at guys like around two guys who missed in their first season only thirty two percent of them going to hit for top twenty four season so and you think do you think it's all a talent thing or do you also think it's like teams give easier. You know stuff like that. Like how much do you think that plays into it? I think it's hard to produce a top twenty four season right. I think that's just. That's that's probably the the the easiest answer to that just from just from a target perspective. It's hard to do and when you get guys up in that top range. They tend to stay there because their focal points of the authorized. So it's tough to crack into that. I just looked deebo Samuel and I get he's sort of involved in the running game and those and he has you know a little bit of two way ability. I just wonder if there's one hundred and twenty targets future in a season and if there's not your your odds of getting to a top twenty four you know difference making fantasy season without one hundred and twenty targets hundred ten or one hundred and twenty targets. It's it's pretty. It's it's rare to do that so I sort of look at these guys and just wonder I mean maclaurin. There's there's virtually no chance to egos into his second year without more competition and I just like maybe the same isn't true for depot But I just I think a guy like McLaren's particularly susceptible to that Gotcha that makes sense The the next one. We have here an animal that you start with this one College Mega Producers Ninetieth percentile guys'll pressing Williams for example Without draft capital having a top twenty. Four hours. He received Adam. Do you trust or have trust issues with guys in that situation. Honestly I mean for me in my process. I've always kind of gravitated towards college. Production to to me. Production is one of the things that I value. Probably the most Having produced at a college level in once you're in the NFL having produced NFL level Just to flash back just to what we were just talking about for a minute. I think that for me is the thing that makes it really hard to deny a player. Terry maclaurin is coming out and from advantage perspective having top twenty five fantasy season in his rookie year playing with basically scrubs quarterback so flashing to this question in regards to college mega producer without draft. Capital Those are the kind of guys that try and target in dynasties especially in dynasty rookie drafts. Because you know with those late rookie picks these are the type of players that I think especially Win They have like a college profile that shows that they were heavily relied on in their offense to me that more often indicates a quicker transition into the NFL or quicker potential transition to the NFL. So I like drafting rookies in that way because you more often at least in my opinion will know quicker if that player is going to be successful in the NFL. And if they're not you can kind of cut Bait Right. That makes sense. Do you agree with that or are you now saying boat I think so. I think the reason for the fall is important. So if you get like like defined digs was Was One of these guys right. Who was An elite producer did it from a young age and fell two days three because of injuries. Really he he sort of ended his college career on a down note goes on goes in round five and then hits But the hit rate on guys in in from day three five percent so super as as a general rule I will avoid day three wide receivers until they hit and then we can sort of We can then. It's a little bit of a different calculus because you're looking at density then And so but as a general rule I avoid day three wide receivers just because the hit rates really low in honestly like we were not particularly good at identifying the right ones like the only time the market has ever gotten right the the best day. Three wide receiver in a class was Mike Williams at Syracuse. A few years ago he was the first day three wide receiver picked in that class rookie drafts. And that's the only time the markets ever gotten it right so The the it's hard to hit on them and so I generally avoid them and at that point in the draft. I think there's other ways to go. Typically and and Rookie drafts in particular Yashar. Josh same feeling what so before I ask this like it's okay to say a by the book but when Guys like that hit. Do they hit in a less dense way? Yes so the the. It's tough to say that because the sample size is so small. That's that's a question I've gotten allowed day. Three guys are they are not like it's not that There's not a ton of examples of it happening so if you were to look at like You know if you're look at guys down the line so like there's there's a couple of allies in terms of guys that are like multiple hits Eighty-three percent around four guys have produced a that have hit have done it either. Once or twice so you have one big outlier there The heads really for like round. Five against small number in terms of these guys but Three or less And then there's a handful of guys from Lake Round Seven That had hit like three or four five times. But it's the the numbers out there are super-low they're just really low in terms of sample size but they tend to like if I were to make a general statement. They tend to hit. Lessen their day to counterpart. Is there ever a question that we can ask you that? You'll say get the book that happens. Opa Gas last year. Sounds like you really should just by the book no way in the story just now. I know I'm not gonna I'll answer the coke have no problem getting me to talk. You'll never is. I don't have to read like I'll talk all right. We're trying we're trying all right. The next one we have here for trust issues Running back or wire receiver With top two round draft capital n college production above average ATHLETICISM LOSES YEAR. One injury later a top twelve season at their position. Geiss Keel. Harry guys like this Do we trust them or do we have trust issues Jordan. So I think this is a great question and The the round to 'cause I 'cause the base rates right so for for if you are the same round in the same experience and you haven't hit you get the same base rate so Round three guys that year three guys guys entering the third year their career from round two running backs There's three of Ronald Jones. Gary Guys Kerryon Johnson I was as big of Carrie Johnson fantasy would he would have found around around the time when he came out of the draft And but you sort of look at them right now and their their base rates twenty percent and so that sort of implies that that the odds of them hitting. It's it's pretty low historically if you were to say Gimme the. GimMe the flip side of that. Well they were you know Geiss IN CARRIE. Johnson both been injured. So maybe we don't hold that all the way against them and I sort of think you know the base rates I start from. I start from a specific spot. So I'll start say all right twenty eight percent now. Let's move it right. I think I think it's higher because they haven't proved that they've been bad. They just haven't addy opportunity because of injury right and those are different value judgment. You have to make But I think the the three of them are really interesting in the market The market on them implies basically the market likes more than than that than that base rate. Ronald Jones is. The is the least cost but actually it's been the best in his career to date. So I had the best season of of those guys to date so I tend to be buyers on those guys Just because I think the you know especially when the price is pretty good And I tend to trust top pedigree. Pretty good I think it's a little bit different at Wide Receiver. You'll see the erosion of their odds of hitting like it's it's a slower. You don't hold a non Your one hit against someone quite as much a wide receiver but that you'll see a dent people's production at running back more than you will receive her so My problem with Harry in the draft was was rookie. Cost of him But I I still like him as a player I just I the the cost of where he was always too high for me. It makes sense. I wonder if Tom Brady is not there onto him. Stock upper down we interest. And everyone's saying Tommy got it no more new so it'd be interesting. He's not you know how that affects anyway to people Adam those guys at a Jordan just mentioned those running backs are there any of those that you're like looking to buy or you send away from all those guys. I mean. It was actually really interesting the way that you were talking about Jordan because for me these are often the players the in dynasty. I always feel like our way overvalued And ironically it's it's caused me to miss on some pretty big players like for instance. I was not in on Dalvin. Cook rebounding after his injury and I think that was just a huge oversight but then there are so many players like Sony. Michelle or Darius guys who seemed to be of that same mold and haven't hit yet and I don't really seem like they're going to So so I kinda I have a hard time making the distinction amongst these groups like to identify what in their profile them to kind of overcome those injuries. Or if it's the type of injury themselves that you know allows them to to rebound well. Yeah that's that's a good point and I think when you what you'll see is like anytime there's uncertainty about a player potential there so right Delvin Cook and carry on and guys depressed values although I I so I actually what you're describing is what I did my dynasty tears which is just sort of look at these things and it's to say here's what the historical hit rate on these types of guises and then. I actually went ahead and I because I have all this data I said. Well let's let me see what the what the market implied hit rate is and so like would the spread on these guys. I actually think they're historically overvalued right so They're all twenty eight percent hit rate guys Kerryon Johnson and dairy skies are going in the same round and round six drafts right now. That implies fifty nine percent. That's a fifty nine percent hit rate historically so The market likes them a lot. More than what their fundamental profiles would be Ronald Jones is interesting because he's at thirty one percent so he's right at about what you would expect him His hit rate to be But the market likes both of these guys more And specifically carry-on and geist likes him more than what historically players of their pedigree and experience have produced in terms of top twenty four production. Josh's Harry Fanti Josh. Yeah I like him but you know what I'm going to start up and I drafted devante Parker over Nikiel Harry. Oh okay that's interesting. What do you think that Jordan Park over? Harry and Parker's got me so I don't know how to think about Parker because he doesn't have a cop so it's totally. It almost feels like he's one of these guys like I think I think the most interesting part about him honestly is is how we should think about Adam Gates because like you look at all of these guys that have left Adam gays and you know Parker Tannahill Kenyan drake. They've all been better Mike is Sticky like they've all had revelations in their career once they left gaze I I'm sort of in on the idea that that Parker could be a potential You know a good potential player going forward. And he actually if you just look at his density and compared to where he's going drafts like he's actually probably value given where he's going so Yeah I I think like. He's going seventh-round right now. If you sort of like I don't eat that price. Like going. Right he's going behind a guy like markey's brown who hasn't hit yet again right next to Harry Like Mike Williams is going right in there and I'd probably historically rather have parker than than Williams. So yeah I think there's there's It's an interesting. I hadn't thought about that until you guys brought that up but adds an interesting. They're an interesting dichotomy in terms of their hit rates. And those sorts of things. Gotcha all right. The last Trust issues we have here is running back ones with fewer than forty targets. Repeat as back once again Guys like Josh Jacobs Derrick Henry Jordan you trust those Kinda guys are you have trust issues from So I I think that In terms of any player like the the. It's so interesting to me that that Jacobs Gay couples essentially the Anti Leonard Fournette coming into this year. Where he was like I. We didn't know if he could be a workhorse but we knew that he could catch and then he comes out and he doesn't catch anything and as a workhorse. We're like okay. Well he's sort of answers the question that we didn't know but like where's the you know whereas what we did know And on the flip side for net like comes out and gets one hundred targets this year everyone had like. I was as big a fan as you would have found coming into the and I wouldn't have guessed anywhere near that number of targets even on most optimistic side And so I think there's a lot of room for for Jacobs to grow in terms of I think like if you were to say what is he coming in the NFL. Like he's a he's a pass catcher. I would be what I thought would a ban So I still think there's plenty of room to grow with that but you look at guys. I mean in terms of just profiles. Take the name away from it for a second round one. Nfl running backs that headed twenty that come into the NFL. Twenty one years old and hit in your one like just that profile is it's so rare at is such a rare profile and the density on those guys is just extraordinary and so there's a big. There's a really big There's a really big impact that those types of players can have. So I'm I and I think he has room to grow so I like him Henry Henry. I'm sort of. He's he's aging a little bit. He's got the concerns with the contracts and those sorts of things I you know. Where does he end up all of those things? I'm I am not. I'd say I'm probably more market neutral on him like he's going ahead of keeps going ahead of Jacobson four NAT. I wouldn't do either of those two things so actually I probably would say I'm a little bit lower on him. Then he is he is right now like I would have Jacobs have a henry. I just I just wanted to make Neil say Josh Jacobs Derrick Henry in that backfired so hard hat. Get over. I I'M A. I'm a raiders fan and obviously be Josh Jacobs Van. So he was hoping that you were going to go the other way with. Digest Jacobs in terms of profiles. Like it's it's a gold standard. Thank you thank you. It's a gold standard profile. I have failed at this guest tonight. See I think this is actually a really interesting one because the two examples to me are outliers of the actual like question because to me. I do not trust running backs that are going to see under forty targets to repeat his running back ones. I'd especially NPR leagues. I just I don't think the productions there however like Jordan outlined. I think Josh Jacobs is going to see a boost in targets because college profile reflects that he can catch passes. And I think Derrick Henry is this weird outlier that he can actually produces an rb one even without forty targets so those two examples to me like are odd in the sense that I think neither of them actually will fit into this realm this year. Derrick Henry will kind of be an outlier and Jess Jacobs. I expect to see over forty targets but in theory this is actually something that I constantly look at for players to avoid. Are these running backs that are being drafted in the first two? Three rounds of fantasy drafts or dynasty. Guys that you know are having high a dynasty value that are expected to see forty plus targets. The these are typically avoid players woman. Well it's funny like Derrick. Henry had a great year. A great year. I mean led the League in rushing tied for rushing touchdowns and finished his running back five What's that say about? How important receiving is two running backs profile and you know can can play. Do that? Twice can a player do that? I mean you're essentially to get a top six finish out of him. You need him to lead the League in rushing and rushing touchdowns. That's sort of that. That's a dangerous back to make whereas Jacobs I think and he finishes running back twenty-one some time at the end of the season But I think you could see him grow whereas at this point like Henry like almost every almost everything would break against Henry finishing as a running back five. He's got so much negative equity in that. Whereas you could say I. I could see Josh Jacobs making a step up to finishing as top. I could see him. You know things could break where he could finish his top six running back but there's so much downside. I think the Henry at that price. I think all of us would agree that I think. At least Jacob Henry maybe not But I'm assuming if you tried to swap them right now ammos What do you think if you tried to trade your Derrick Henry for someone shake as what you think the outcome will be most of the Times percent think Henry is the perceived higher value. Yeah that's what I think too I would do. I would do it straight out but I think you can get more out of it so likely can. Yeah it's interesting because I think that a Josh Jacobson has a higher chance of finishing as like the overall rb one with his pass catching ability or like a top six fantasy running back. But I think Derek Henry has the greater chance to just finish inside the top twelve the issue Henry is just his his ADP and his perceived value and actually living up to that draft capital. It'll be interesting to watch plays out. I like it. I see a lot of people trying to trade Derrick Henry now so I I think Josh Jacobs might be like the most logical player to break into that top tier running backs. That's gross love. You saying this. Your back's against the wall. You have no choice at this point no choice. It's funny because I actually. I think you could make an argument for him. Being his high as running back like five or six scapegoating higher that might that might sound like hot. Take but if you just think about. I mean the in terms of the historical cops for him and get like I get the argument that he wasn't a great round one pick like I sort of like he was maybe a quote bad around one running back but he was around one running it twenty one years old knee hits like you're getting in. I mean the difference. You're getting two and a half three years on in his prime on guys like Delvin. Cook and Nick Chub and You Know Derrick. Henry are getting even more than that. Aaron Jones or getting almost four years You know the difference on that. I mean that's right running backs prime and and you're looking at you have to look at these things going forward and a lot of what dynasty rankings and. What I've found in the marketplaces like fifty percent of a dynasty. Adp just explained by last year's results and you have to sort of take that's part of it but you sort of have to project going forward and and what what is going to happen in the future and if you just think about like the the gap in age between Jacobson some of the guys going in front of them in their prime that's a that's a lot of window to give up and let's let's move over to our pick one segment basically. I'm going to list Usually three options. And we're all going to be only pick one of those options Depending on the situation so like for instance the First Category Group we have here is why receivers with a low BMI. I can't stand seeing that already Slow running backs or quarterback with one year starts So just kind of examples low emplo BMI y receivers CD lamb Slow runnin bag devon single terry or a quarterback with a one year starts trubisky If you only pick one of these how do you WanNa get this Josh like a startup dynasty or just like like which one of the? Oh Yeah Yeah like startup dynasty. Who What profile is the best is yes can make. Yeah you can go. I short. I think the pedigree's really important so if I were to. I mean none of these are great profiles in terms of it matters if the person's around I mean if cd-roms around one wide receiver. That's different than like Josh Reynolds. Being a day three pick so like those things matter in terms of that I think of all of them like the the only starting one year in college thing is I think is probably the most dangerous And so but I think like I don't think the slow running back I mean David Montgomery and dub and single terrible Quotes slow running backs and I think they play the game. Remarkably different so You know I I think if I would have to pick one. I think I would pick that one But I think you have to be careful on sort of who you're picking within the next year and the cost of what you're paying some variables. Joshua where are you at with that? I think I would if I had to take one. I think I would take the low. Bmi Wide Receiver. That feels like the closest thing to throw velocity on this list and then the one. That really kinda scares me. The most I think is one year of starts with with a quarterback at any input on that. No I think the slow running back thing is the one. That's the forests of the group if you will because I honestly think that the way even which that speed is calculated it straight line speed and be honest. How often is a running back? Are you really hitting straight line speed? I mean ultimately you have two more agile I think and I think that there's so much so many other factors that go into being a success for running back then something just like straight line speed so I think out of the three. That's probably the one that I'd value the least cash all right. Let's move onto the next one then the next group here. We got college production Golic Nikiel Harry again. year one. Nfl production a guy like Dj Shark for example and then guy draft capital like Mike Williams. He had to pick one out of this group. Who You picking Jordan draft capital capital especially wide receiver draft apples a huge deal so You know all all things being equal. GimMe Gimme the guy with the high draft. Capital MAKES JOSH. Sick as well Because he hates Mike Williams well like Mickey'll dairy also has draft capital. Yeah bikeway example of draft capital but I cannot hate it because Nikiel Harry's though too. Yeah that's true. Romance is a tough one. I out of that group. I would have to take charge. I like. You're just picking out of those players out big jerk to of course Yeah I mean I think that's kind of given just kind of for the examples I still value. Nfl production over everything else And I think it one year is the part because it's not really much of a sample size and there's been plenty of rookies have slashed and never held up to that But to me being able to show you can do it in. Nfl level is the most valuable thing. And I'd be curious to know but I feel like the hit rate on you know production in your first year going into year. Two is Actually I'm curious Jordan. Do you have any Numbers on that as far as the correlation from year one production to your to production versus draft capital to your one production Shark hit near to. I think he was a pretty tepid year. One Guy I don't so I had a good example for that. Actually yeah yeah the I guess the best thing I would say is like the kind of what I said earlier with the guys that got into the wide receiver three tiers. So deebo. Samuel Decay. Metcalf and Terry maclaurin all his wide receiver threes. Like those guys hit pretty those guys hit from day to have one hundred percent hit rate that get into as wide receiver threes in year. One so I think that's that's a good indicator But I would say I think it's a cautionary no I think what you define as being in having a good season or early production that's probably Just generally speaking in terms of when people use that as sort of a justification. I think it's probably used to broadly. So I think that what people value is saying. Oh you're one production. They wide receiver. Forty finish isn't really that good of production in terms of going forward. I would say so I think by and large I would play it especially a wide receiver. I'd play it tighter to the best and I would try to make exceptions at a player's Gotcha. All right that's cool. It makes sense If you're doing a rebuild rebuilding team Pick one a young wide receiver young running back or young quarterback we're richer focus. Be If you had to pick one running. I think like traditional the traditional approach is the young wide receiver thing right and I think that it should just be players who have potential to gain the most. Adp In people should be more open to the running back or quarterback so many so if you were rebuilding you'll go which one which way would you focus? I I kind of have like all three in there. I think all three have value. I'm not sure which one I feel like young wide. Receivers is still probably the best group but I duNno. Running backs hit really. You know like this is something Jordan should talk about. Well I actually love the Jordan. Just kind of said young running backs and stop because it's actually really interesting. So when I first started really getting into dynasty Probably about five years ago now and a lot of the what I considered best minds in dynasty at that time the ones that I was listening to the most were really really heavy on building with wide receivers because their career longevity it is greater than what running backs are the counterpoint. To that is that in seasonal. You WanNA value these workhorse running backs because their ceilings are just so much higher than workhorse wide receivers. Personally I've found way more success building around these young running back so I think it's interesting. How quickly Jordan answer? Because to me I think this is kind of a weird misconception that even is the dynasty player initially had and have transitioned and sense transitioning have felt way better about the direction of those teams. And I do think that it. It's more valuable to build amongst those really talented young running backs especially because they give you Typically quicker return on your investment and then also if you can get out on those players at the right time you can still sell them extremely high value you. Can I just touch on that? I should probably expounded more than I. Did you say young running backs by the book? No I Essentially all what you said I agree with and I think right now at the time like when you were starting to play dynasty in those binders saying that like they were probably right. Because at that time the young wide receivers will really dominate right. I mean I'm assuming you're talking a few years ago yes it and at that point the running backs were you know aging and not. Now we've gotten the two thousand seventeen two thousand eighteen RHINEBECK class and we're getting two thousand twenty like we're in a golden age of running backs. At that time we weren't we weren't able nature receivers that that that's part of it. I think the other thing too. If there's one mistake that is I think. The most commonly made mistake and dynasty fantasy football it is that people value wide receivers Outside the top while the top five rounds of startup draft in terms of start one draft and it might be top. Seventy five eighty picks outside of that in a super flex draft But outside of that range wide receivers do not hold their value more than running backs too. That is a mess that is just simply not true and what you'll see is not only do they not hold their value but running backs are more productive and more productive in you'll get more starts out of them. You're more likely to get top. Twenty four production. Outta them you more likely to get a one warp Outcome out of them anymore. Like couldn't even get spot starts at its them Then you will a wide receiver and at the same time. Why aren't holding their value? So you're sort of anytime and and you know you earlier. About what type of drafter I am. I usually drive wide receivers early because any time you anytime you take running back. Sorry anytime you take a wide receiver over running back outside the top. Call it seventy five picks in the draft. You are taking a beating historically in terms of in terms of odds you're just hemorrhaging value every time you do it And so when you see teams that get you know. Six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve wide receivers every time you make that wide receiver decision over running back. You're losing value and I found. Actually I did this in the book every time you take a wide receiver over running back like Just just on average you'll lose point one. Seven wins over the first three years of of the dynasty team so and that moves it was both your ceiling and your floor and your average so moves them every time you take a wide receiver you know you can take running back over receiver you bump up point one. Seven wins over the first three years and that adds up and it it gives you a lot more in the running backs give you a lot more upside so you get to see a lot. More High End Outcomes. Outta them than you would at wide receiver so That's sort of why answered that question and you can get like you can get the I mean. Just look at what McCaffrey did right and And and look at. I mean the the big hits on these running backs can be massive and they can be. Mccaffrey was over two and a half wins over replacement last year. And you don't need that but like just look at James Connor a couple years ago. He was a win and a half over replacement when before he got hurt. When leaving bell was out and I was like ten weeks. I mean the. The value of that is just massive. And that's a story that's much more common happen at running back than it is wide receiver. You know. I I Kinda WanNa stay on that topic for a minute because dating back to you know five ten years ago even just three years ago. It seemed like everyone's focus is far as draft Saturdays and like the largest draft strategy that was talked was zero running back and actually came kind of from the dynasty world. I in into the redraft world but in regards to what you're speaking to. It sounds very much in line with a lot of the tenants of zero running back in anti fragility in the sense that you're speaking to wide receivers Having really rough hit rates outside of those first few rounds which would indicate wanting to draft those guys more often early whereas running backs have a much higher hit rain all the way through the draft which would indicate that you know you can just load up on them from a volume perspective in draft. You know them in bulk which has really allowed the same tenants that the zero running back was really pushing. Do you feel like those ideas kind of wine or am I off base there. No I D. I think the unfortunate. I think you're running backs right. I think the unfortunate part about zero running back is it gives the connotation that running backs aren't valuable I I just I think that when Shawn Segal wrote that article He it was zero running back early and the key part I think the strategy is. It's a it's all an efficiency strategy right because if you take like listen I'm GonNa Hammer four or five wide receivers when they're most valuable and then I'm not gonNA take them when they're not valuable and I'm GonNa take running backs when they are valuable. I think the key to executing it and giving yourself a high end outcome that the possibility of a high end outcome is that you have to take it all the way through so you have to go. You have to go wide receiver early and you have to go running back in volubly. And when I'm talking like running back volume like in a league I want a roster at least two to one running backs. Too wide receivers When you get even a when you get deeper rosters I mean you can go. You can go three x four x I did a startup draft last year and it didn't turn out well cause everything. I mean everything that happened went bad but I'm strategy implemented implementation that I did after I wrote. The analysts dynasty was I'm going to see how many like see how far can push the envelope in Nineteen running back to wide receivers And that wasn't only. I only need to start one wide receiver And I just. I was hammered with injuries across the board. Just it was. It was a comedic. It was a kind of tragedy But the I think the process was right in terms of anytime you MAC anytime. You can get the opportunity to take running backs. You should do it and the way you do. That is by drafting wide receivers rarely because then you don't have to drive. Receiver Sleep Yeah. It makes total sense. It also explains your tweet with the sheep on twitter for those who follow Jordan the load up wire series because they retain value better than running backs the sheep now again conversation. I was going to put on their seats true. But that the the flip side of that though too. It's true early in the draft right. So receivers do retain their value in the top five rounds of draft better than running back studio Gotcha But it's not true after that perfect aren't cool all right. Let's move on. We're GONNA wrap this show up soon. WE'RE GONNA go to file or no file just three for today Fowler. No foul is basically. I'M GONNA throw statements at you guys if you agree with the statement and there's no foul if you disagree with it you call foul We'll start with the first one the first day when we have here is. Nfl combine have the ability to make or break a player's outlook and fantasy fowler. No fell They have the ability to make or break a player's perception value. Yeah I think. That's I think that's true. So no foul right. I mean you just I I think I get has the ability whether it should or not is a different story. Do you think it should? I think there's certain things that should You know does. Does a guy running really fast? A straight line matters much as as the market thinks it does. I don't think so But this year. I'm looking for more like you know why air guys like Devon single terrier able to stand out what what was it in his profile that despite being slow Made him so good you know and so I think we sort of overreact to the combine generally once you pass like a minimum baseline test. I think I think that most of these guys are good enough to play So generally speaking. I think that combine results are overstated Josh. You guys agree on that or do you think that there are certain. Nfl combine results. That should be a big deal for player. On A. I'm a big proponent of throw velocity inside the no I think I am right in line with Jordan on this It's definitely no foul in the sense that I think it definitely causes public perception to go certain direction But as far as how it really impacts how layers are gonNA perform in the NFL. I think the only way it really has an impact is based upon draft capital Because ultimately those combine metrics whether we like it or not having impact over whether or not teams are going to draft players and that impacts capital and ultimately I think draft capital is probably the greatest thing to focus on whereas all the individual metrics just kind of a you know a guide to get to that right the IBM. I is a new study by the way Josh anything yet. Just the the combine creates draft capital for some of these guys so it impacts career. You know I would like to think that production was more important but it's also for you personally. Is there any number that you're gonNA see pop up on a player renowned the combine? You're going to go Down with him Donna theme. I'm just GonNa drop them all the way down. There is no aircraft in the. Yeah I a slow a slow running back Elijah Holyfield. I think I think you can be slowing up. But I'm done that's all I wanted to hear just wanted to hear your opinion on The next one Juju will be a top ten wire receiver in Twenty Twenty Fowler. No Foul Jordan. I'm buying that no foul. No how nice getting bowled over here. Any any particular reason why you're buying that I th- and stands out or I. Yeah I mean listen. He was a he had a down year last year. but he is. I mean he was good from eighteen years old at USC and he has a down year when his hall of fame quarterback got her like naming a wide receiver. That isn't GONNA have a down year and he got her like everything sort of went bad for them. I. I'm SORTA washing that out. I'm buying Juju to have a pretty big bounceback. Adam Josh are you guys on the same boat or you know how I feel about this situation. Two words Mason Rudolph like last season does account awfully. I think I think top ten is definitely in the range of outcomes. Josh the right the right Oklahoma State van on New Mason. Rudolph was bad football the whole time. I'M GONNA go the opposite of you guys. Don't believe it. I'm not saying you guys just right. All of this off on Mason. Rudolph Will Not Allow? He will be top ten again. Not Part of it was duck dodgers to write a true. Gather making all the excuses. Fine one day you guys who begs also jus just not top ten wires either but that's all right Speaking of dealers wires reduce you who fell off a little bit because the real gurus. You run the team left which was Antonio Brown Antonio Brown's been trying to right his wrongs out here guys. He's trying to make up. What is maybe mother wife from the ratio where she is? He's out here wearing raiders. Hats trying to get second chances. So it's the statement is one hundred percent fact that Antonio Brown will be a team wide receiver one come week one of the twenty twenty season. Fowler no foul Jordan. I'll foul I I it's He's got a lot of making up to I wouldn't I wouldn't bet on 'em certain We want some place okay. So what would you write up the idea of him playing next year? Just not one I wouldn't write off the idea of him playing. I mean I do. I think there's a reasonable shot that he plays. Yes what I say. One hundred percent now. Okay I I think there's a I still own I roster him. I think a spotter to I'm not it's not like I'm cutting him But Yeah I just I think the it's all well and good to sort of be behaving for a couple of days isn't shown a track record to keep his head on straight for more than like you know a week at a time. So let's you know maybe we'll talk next time you guys record what he's got going on all right. Jordan's calling foul Adam or Josh. Either one of you call them no foul and give you a believers in the second chance Rabi now. This is a foul I think. Ab IS GONNA turn into. What like Chad Johnson? Mr Ocho Cinco has been where? Mto where it's just like every year they're going to act like they've got a chance to come back in the league but it's Never GonNa happen I think for Ab Sake. I hope I hope he doesn't come back. He doesn't seem right. I don't think that guy needs to take any more hits the head at think you need some people around him to support him in making some lifestyle changes. Hopefully he's doing those things but I don't. I don't think football said I think he needs to be able to move on with his life taken a different direction ultimately I I just. I don't see it happening. I it'd be shocked but it's Money League and the Patriots had him on their roster just last year so I won't be. I won't be shocked. Fiennes up somewhere. Listen if for no other reason it again. We stopped wrapping. I'm for it hundred percent onboard that and also there is one receiver that keeps pump. Fake and come back in the league and we all kind of want to do it is does Bryant right. I mean everyone is pulling frame right. I am definitely pulled for. Did you have to write another one man? These these evil wide receivers you know. They just like they like playing with your emotions. I think he can do it. Come on somebody give them a chance. So your chance. I think Antonio Behaves until pre-season somebody'll signed him. I think so too. I'm with you. I'm no foul on this one at the back. Maybe all right listen. We're going to close the show. I think we covered a lot of ground here today. This was a Audiobook brought to you by George McNamara. Now and again. Well what we close the show though Jordan. You weren't you weren't told US ahead of time so you can go lasts if you have anything. But we do this thing. Called Show Intel We're basically bring any product. Podcast music philosophy advice. Book Your Book for instance anything you want to just share with the listener. So for instance I can go first on my life to give out Podcast times specifically What I call murder podcast Gas there's one. I'm listening to down the hill. The Delphi murders Which is a really good one. It's a little different than allow the other ones. Because it's like Kinda current like there's children spoiler that were murdered and they had like Snapchat IPHONES and stuff. So it's Kinda more current than a lot of the other true crime podcast which are usually like twenty years ago in sometimes So it's a really good one really really really well produced all that kind of stuff so check it out if anyone's into the TRUECAR podcast. Adam do you have anything today You know actually. I'm GONNA throughout Sunday. You recommended to me. That's a decision to it's on so it was a great recommendation In line with a podcast. I recommended a long time ago. Called two bears. One Cave Which is comedy podcast with Tom Sagarra. This is one that Neil recommended to me just started the other day called bad friends odds with comedian. Andrew Santino and Bobby Lee. And they're so damn funny they they play off each other so well and it. It's so rare that I was no podcast that like literally causes me to laugh out loud and man that that podcast says it is. It's a dangerous one to listen to all driving. I'll say that much but but yeah it's it's really funny. It's important to note that I found that 'cause I was thinking about you and Josh and I was like bad friends man just kind of fell across it. You know. It's like the way it worked out. But it is a hilarious podcast and there's a few podcast like that they do. I think they do is like the best of trying to do that. Exact thing Way To give podcast Josh remaining today you know what I think I think this is something that needs to be said. And I think people like I wanNA see more of this around One thing is like the world is getting better and I'm sorry I it's Corny but like the world is a better place than it used to be and I feel like if more people just took that first step we could probably makes progress around here. Sorry no that was got a very so sexy but now you've been watching watching bullet political town halls in debates. I understand it's fair. It's a fair sent me. Ellie was Generally aware Josh. Big Me a tedtalk on this and it is like beyond dispute that the world is getting better it is we like to highlight the negative but we we really do. There's no better time than now just the way it is. Just the facts facts. All Right Jordan. You see how we roll here. Wait wait did you just slip into two popular. Are You sir? Are you sure those were changes? If I did it was unintentional. I've been trying to get a be at a music out of my head so I may have listened to some to Prague recently but Jim Jordan. Ucla where Sharon stuff here man. If you have anything you want to share as far as like I said it could be anything advice and I know a product. Whatever you want music if you don't have nothing it's cool because we didn't really prepare you for this. That's all right I would say that That if there's a podcast you're interested in listening to For like a sports thing and it's not just it's not just football but it's just a general sports. It's it's fantastic Warton moneyball it's by Four professors at the Wharton School. They just talk It's every release it every Wednesday It's fantastic to have really good guests in that and And some really interesting topics. I've employed some of their deployed some of their concepts from other sports into some of my dynasty work so It's called weren't money but I think it's fantastic. Nice GonNA check it out like what kind of topics you talking about like Do you know they look at look at all types of sports. So it's like two hours sports content to look at all different types of all-sports so they do a big thing on football every week in the football season but basketball and I think like basketball basketball strategy analytics roster building I think it's super applicable the dynasty particularly because of roster size similarities But yeah I think like they they do stuff like that and golf and some of the technology stuff they talk about. It's it's really interesting and just some of the concepts that they that they talk about. I think there's plenty value there for for Implementation into your your Dynasty Process Gotcha. Sounds good all right so there. You Go folks three podcast recommendations and joshes patriotic Patriotic Rural does getting better. The world is getting better. He wanted you guys leave on a high note Jordan let listeners. Know where they can find you on social media. Plug your book again. The podcast all that good stuff so just on that note about the world getting better. The other night I tweeted out that After watching Syracuse basketball Not being very good and then flipping on the democratic debate being equally demoralized. I was just going to the podcast. The the Syracuse newspaper picked it up and put it in the online version of their pitch for various so it was pretty it was it was my cynicism actually came out and had a couple of people laughing at me that that read it so But Yeah you all the content. You know a lot of stuff. We talked about an honestly. It's funny when I write these when I right when I wrote the analysts dynasty the twenty twenty edition i. I didn't know that like I just wrote it and said ERE general trends but this year has been really interesting in terms of the guys that hit for wide receiver. Three finishes like there's Multiple Them. And then you know a lot of the stuff that I wrote about. I wrote it in advance. And now it's like really applicable I in terms of that and there's still a lot of value in a lot of avoid players in the dynasty marketplace. Right now that I watched so you can find. You can find a lot of those strategy points. confided all in the book analytics the Dynasty Dot Com slash shop. And like I said I have the analysts dynasty podcast And then I go even deeper sort of more specific more topical and the I might patriots. I can get that for as little as four dollars a month but I have a group me Which is great in terms of owners. We're doing startup drafts and And and trades and rookie draft planning and all that stuff and and That's part of Patron platform as well. So you can find all that Patriot dot com slash analytics dynasty and And check out the PODCAST. Dan Dynasty podcast am next year? You guys will be fine. Audiobooks they're He's working on that Definitely learn how to read. I check all that. Maybe you should just take the session with the editor and record it and just let that ride as the blooper reel or something. I don't know is the. It'd be humiliating. It was funny. 'cause right around the time that it happened. You were watching like all these senators and house people and stuff on TV. Like reading prepared scripts and I was like. That's the most horrifying thing I could ever doing. This like ripping that law. So yeah. That's that's that's no way near being my future. All right perfect well you can find atom also on twitter at the other F F Guy. He's usually Sharon like twenty one pilots toward aids and stuff like that. You can find Josh did you hear. Did you hear you just had a baby this guy? He's like he's like the straddle he's got the he's like sorta. Singer twenty one pilots to set a baby citing the speaker. Unbelievable you can also find Josh. Jc Crocker and you can find his reign content player profile DOT com. Have you done anything on there lately? Josh been so horrible. Drought joins out here banging out content. And you're just nothing nothing at all Jordan. Did you give your twitter out at McNamara dynasty Bam McNamara Dynasty perfect. And you can find me at clock dodgers. Just how sounds podcast? Says all that good stuff as always we appreciate the listeners? More than we can put into words. 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"Stugatz here don't know about you but my morning commute is filled with thinking about who won. Who lost and who is going to light up the next game the last thing i want to be thinking about or my core lights. That's why one by advance. Not only to their experts. Set me up to sylvania silver star ultra headlights with the furthest down row visibility. I save fifteen bucks by mail for better vision. During these dark winter mornings adventure auto at advance auto parts and participating carquest locations. See stores for details. All right so billie. Tony and chris were howling with laughter. As greg cody again just started yet marine through the break paying no attention. Pablo really like honest. to god. Saba was so disappointing today. He really just sucked the life. Right out of the show but billy what was happening there at the end. I couldn't hear cody got clipped on the hard network out but kept talking as he often does for a full thirty seconds afterward and he hasn't noticed yet that our greatest tell is when we take an interest in something. That's super interesting to him. But not to us and he will yemen endlessly and we can get him forever on the hard network out if we just ask him about anything he cares about and pablo really screwed up. Because cody during the pandemic for about ten months. Now we're batting about ninety nine percent on getting you on the hard network out. It's easy what happened at the end of the show there billy well after we went off air. Maybe we're still on the air. Greg immediately curse instead. Holy bleep and chris had dad. Why why'd you curse. And he said. I didn't and then a moment later said i have a tendency to mispronounce os is right. I said i said holy. Shoot but now wait a minute. Explain this to me because you're getting more and more dangerous by not knowing when you're on air when you're not on air when we did That mega cast and you showed up hopped up on whatever drugs you're on you didn't know where you were because it was at night. You didn't know you were in a studio and it's weird. Don't don't make that face at me. Chris wrong about what happened with your dad that we did mega cast. We're trying to do something. And he was bouncing around in here. Pinball bowling really confused. The lights confused out of the hopped up on anything is hopped up on age Know chris what happened. There wasn't the loopy. I don't remember if it was after a surgery or there was something where he knew. He had medicine in his system and he was loopy. All right so was on life. Ok high on life Greg this is what i'm telling you. Okay you came very close to saying the f. word on the air and we really need to not having not have any more trouble around your family like. I don't need any more of that in my life. You can't say the f. word and it was. It was second after you. Don't know whether your microphones working or not and you just shouted it at your computer. Because you thought your microphone wasn't working. What if it had been greg like what. What are we supposed to do with the idea that you mouth the f. word really angrily because of whatever happened with pablo earlier well Doesn't mike have like a a dump button or whatever you call it. I don't know the lingo. I don't know the radio lingo. But he doesn't dump button. But can we refrain from using the f. word anywhere around a microphone. That's all i think i. I didn't realize i had. I apologize to the sensibilities of the listeners. Because i really didn't realize that. I'd it's not a listeners. Greg employers like you could get us into a lot of trouble shouting curse words on the air. Yeah i didn't mean to. I can do nothing but cry. Your pardon mike. You were making a face because of how much do god's likes to use the f. word and says the f. word more than suge folk you talking about. Cody what happened. Did you feel pablo sucked the soul out of the show today. Because i want to know how. Chris how do you knowing you're dead. How do you imagine your dad really experienced Us calling him nonstop during his back in my day because i have not enjoyed That much fun at your father's expense since we were being silent. How many years ago was that. That he was in san antonio and he got furious with us because he would talk on the radio. All of us would be silent and then he'd be like starts singing and not know what to do and we just stopped man. It's funny off a working journalists. I'm on a road trip covering a team devoting some time to the show and all of a sudden. It's nonsense you know like an i. I actually don't i think on this rare occasion. I don't think he kind of got it that it was funny. I don't think he was furious. Actually i could be wrong. Maybe i'm going to get a. He stormed out of the room did he. Not like he wasn't available to us the next ten minute. Well let's ask. I mean greg what were you feeling. Rate segment was a great segment. Maybe the best one during the pandemic. It took me a minute to warm up to the fact that exactly what was happening. Because i'll be honest with you the first few times. The phone kept ringing. I'm just thinking. I'm cursed whitaker wigwam. No no no no but but time it was an odd. This is the part that i want to tell you about. The audience doesn't see and now less gets to see because billy's on remote billy's an anarchist. Okay billy gatty mean abil- philly gets things before the rest of us. And i saw it felt like genuine communication. I saw a flash in. Billy's is of delight that said to me because i was about to start in the chat telling chris and billy and tony start calling your dad but billy was already there. He got there first and he and text you. Chris is that what happened a message. Me privately in zoom and vergara. Brilliant soon as i saw it i was like. That's so good and it was like we were all won much as i was doing dan with signaling. Do it do it. It was cool to see us all on the same page. My dad is my ally. it's a set right i. It's a such a sad moment because greg is deflated here. He never thought that billy would be the one that he does feel betrayed. Is that what's happening. Because over the last few weeks you basically have had problems with everyone here. Except for billy and tony. Everyone i know is the truth. You've met you called mike an asshole air. That's something that you did. Because you're a random cursor and so here. We find ourselves in place where billy has betrayed you and billy and i'm willing to say publicly even though he's gonna keep saying What do you mean. Unbelievable but billy billy was the first bill. You can't dispute the accusations silly. I saw it on your face before it was on anybody's face. And you feel hurt by that or greg no greg well on on a on a ranking of betrayal and hurt What billy did to me ranks just below christopher giving up my private home phone number to a national audience. That's another thing. Another thing i did i. I didn't even hear that. I was so busy dialing the numbers right and to not do that right dan. When you called my dad was thinking christopher. You're doing it again. And i was like no. This one's not me. And i just wanted to show my phone that i wasn't calling him and apparently the whole like american now knows my dad's home number. The good thing about that is now. You've draw attention to it. So people can go back. You have to change a number. This might be the moment for you to get rid of a landline. You don't need a landline greg. What do you need a landline for. He's muted himself. No i have been saying for years to my wife that why do. We need a landline. We all have cellphones. Why do we need. How often does that ring. How often like what was the bad timing of that. Was that a telemarketer. Just gone because the first one was not us it rings. I would say it rings ten times a day and i saw some the other day that i'd never seen before. Have you guys seen this where you get an unidentified call in it actually says on it. scam likely or likely scam. Yeah all the time. Do you ever seen that. I hadn't until yesterday. That's me calling the caller id for god's for all of us that's right that's listen. What comes up on my phone went. Stugatz calls me is not only scam likely but a photo of him. Why were you in those seven ninety boots. You're wearing some furry boots of some sort and you were sitting in the studio boots. Who was the. Who's the he was a heat. Fan roman jones the nightclub owners moon boots. And you did an event up while you guys were talking. I pulled up the receiving stats in the nfl. This season. oh very maclaurin is the fourth leading. Receiver of the nfl dj. Moore's fifth vaqar's embarrassing amount of names that have more receiving yards. Then devante parker including one cole beasley. Ooh never called anyone on dj ca. I been texting all day and she's still doesn't respond to my question and i think she's doing it on purpose but dj more an robby anderson are both better than devante parker from a receiving yards standpoint. Anyways guys tyler. Boyd tee higgins also. That was a little bit of a debate. Also both better than devante parker from an output standpoint So wow you really bringing it all together there mike. With facts and information about a conversation. That was pretty us. And i hate hours ago. I hate it open to close those loops. Otherwise you know what you have something. That is not a loop okay. So you've closed the loop there And and greg. Greg was hurt. Greg was wounded Where do we leave this as we head into the thanksgiving holidays. I leave this. Dj char indeed being better than devante. Parker it's been. It's been a weird year. Okay so allow me to tell the audience here by way of a little goodbye here. W for tim patrick and jerry. Jeudy take both better than devante. Parker the weird year we're That is correct. Thank you Chris of the weird year includes most recently being fired. And mike taking henry ruggs over devante parker. Yeah that's the thing that happened. Early scrolls weird which was a weird thing to happen doing that or megan. I'll be henry ruggs guy for the rest of my life. You guys be devante parker guys and we'll meet somewhere in a couple of years. We'll settle this in four years mike. We will find dust centers when when and where mike ryan might have about rug. You're getting all excited about a guy that has the same output is hunter renfrow side. Cool your jets froze good. We'll gruden certainly loves him. Of course he does I want to thank the audience for the support. It's been a weird year. And i don't wanna do a hockey thanksgiving thing but i do want to thank you guys for the pandemic. Say you guys. I mean the shipping container army. Mike and stu gods Cody For just it's been a rough year in terms of everything happening in america and all around us and thanksgiving's going to be weird and i desperately miss my family. I'm scared to be around my family. I'm no different than any of you are on some of this stuff Where it's been just The worst weirdest year and this is weird. Because i just got married and at home it's been the happiest year of my life but it's been the weirdest worst year outside of that and this show not just for you because i've told you before that the greatest compliment that we get around here is that We brought you through a dark time. We brought you through some stuff where you needed. Some help helps time now for a weekly update on our favorite team rick snowballs. Here's their head coach. I'm president of football operations. Greg cody new People i wish i had better news. The thirty third greg's lobos has lost five games in a row but his upside. Here's the upside as we steamed toward the fantasy playoffs are playoffs. Like the nfc east. I'm not out of it yet. Okay five wins may get me into this doug on i was cursing and doggone playoff emma one. I'm not wanna make excuses. Which means excuses are about to come. But we lost that prescott. We've gotten crapped. Mostly out of michael thomas. Our number one graphic. We've had all kinds of injuries and bad luck but despite all that the logos are still in the playoff hunt. So i have only three words. Foia we do me. She'll take dj moral. Oh oh dan. You were saying. Dan dan nelson.

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