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Week 3 Rankings 2020

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Week 3 Rankings 2020

"The. Fantasy. Focus Football podcast is presented by GEICO good morning to you on Wednesday, September Twenty Third Field Gates Matthew Berry, hanging out with us to find your bell as always here as well plus Daniel up and our whole crew. We want to begin today show with a moment of gratitude a huge. Thank you to everyone who join us for our live podcast event last night conducted. Virtually, of course, it was ton of fun to get the hang out, answer some questions, lot of fantasy some not fantasy which kind of fun as well, and it was a great time it was presented by Geico Geico is now offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car motorcycle RV Policies Visit Geico Dot com for more and marathon fueling the. American spirit. Thanks for making that night. Possible and we had a great time in the podcast. I believe it was able to Daniel. It is available I actually thought it was a lot of fun. We had some questions about where the nicknames have come from I. Get that question a lot. So if you're ever wondering matthew to find you covered it. So definitely check out the podcast from last night right and you can hear about breakfast breakfast of. Champions that was an enlightening segment tells you lot about a person depending on what he or she prefers to eat early in the morning yeah. Fields answer just I'll ruin it for people that are going to that address. All right. Don't hang on McCoy's just GONNA say for people that are going to click on it or not listening because all we care about it the clicks we don't care we don't downtown. Download and give us five star reviews. Really don't care if you listen or not. That's all we need from you and field yates is perfect breakfast basically booze it's basically like. A craft beer or bloody mary or maybe both doing a couple of shots. I don't know just it seemed very drunk. Your breakfast, very hunky Well, you were sort of listening during the podcast last night. So you have some elements of art, which is which is. Right. Yes. made it clear. I'm not a bloody Mary or to type I. AM instead of breakfast beer guy which many people responded restart thing. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Definitely. Is it really threatening the knowledge? I've literally Gab. It wasn't breakfast beer beer I just assumed that was washed college football a wake up on Saturdays. Breakfast beer you don't like go to a restaurant say like I'll have your breakfast beer. Please you you. You went to college when there was no craft beer. Wow. Wow I mean let's Shots at me. There with you but I know it was like tap beer from the keg room and that was it the. Guys Day three to know I listen. I. Probably went to bed with it but. Thursday collared Amanda Poll Right now have you ever heard of breakfast beer? Yeah. So I. I think that this is unfair because I know that while prohibition was happening. In college you not allowed to drink. So let's just not let's not get keep field. It's a very good point. See Dangle sensitive that you right Daniel being very kind sensitive to matthew and his. Decades, decades, and. Centuries ago college experience. Let's get right into the news. In the NFL started just after I got college of. Right you're not here the day that I roasted you the NFL but it was good. I. Saw it on online. He's. Good. anyways, an update on devante. Freeman he has now signed with the New York giants one year deal with up to three million dollars that according to Adam Schefter and we talked about this yesterday matthew we thought this was going to happen. So I think what we don't need to do is revisit the entire conversation, but we do have a little bit of extra context and understand that he could play as soon as Sunday right that what does our outlook now let's re establish the pecking order of the giants, Backfield in terms of how we would prefer to have them fantasy football late last night I made a decision. That, whether I'm trying to claim Mike Davis or Devante Freeman. Many people I think we're making that same decision on waivers last night I wound up with Mike with my Davis as opposed to Devante. Freeman which which I was thrilled with okay. You would prefer no. No it's two reasons. Number one is I. thought that was the right call I. thought that was the right call. Good. But more importantly it was basically you had the first pick and schefty. Warmly shed the second pick. So taking Mike. Davis, and means you took devante Freeman I play airplanes, Shafie this week, and I heard a face devante freeman this week right and Mike Davis. I think Mike Davis gets twenty touches this week, I think devante. Freeman if he plays will be eased into that lineup and I prefer the matchup of Davis as well and so yes for my own selfish purposes, I prefer shefty to wind up with Devante Freeman then Mike Davis by the way I also think for the time that Mike Davis is active. I believe he'll. I'll have him ranked higher than Devante Freeman. Let's see what we get right but I think it's going to be a while if at all that devante Freeman has this backfield to himself. I wanted to be a bit of I think he'll be the head of a committee eventually but I think it is still going to be a committee. I think Dion Lewis and Wayne Goldman are not just going to go away and so a couple of pieces of context here you mentioned. It's going to be a committee. You mentioned that we don't play this week and we've seen a rash of injuries I. Don't need to remind anybody but all the injuries we've seen through two weeks of the NFL Sirven that this is a player who hasn't practiced once since December of last year. So I mean he's going to probably take some time to get into the swing of things. So to speak, this is not like Leonard Fournette where he changed teams after full training camp. Right right. So, Devante I might need some time to get into the swing of things and I think the big question we're going to have to find out which version of devante freeman getting because peak devante Freeman was one of the most exciting players in re NFL was a fantasy rockstar but recent years have been a much different devante Freeman who had just two rushing. Touchdown one hundred, eighty four carries last year and three point, six yards per carry. So I say all that let's re. Let's take stock once more of the giants Backfield for the rest of the season, this a September twenty third conversation it could look decidedly different on October twenty third or maybe even October third he had to choose one giants running back we believe. remains. devante. Freeman he has the best chance of those three players to we think if one of them stealing the job and keeping it with Devante Freeman I, agree with that number two as Dion Lewis who I think over the next two to four weeks has the most value. Yeah. I would. I would agree with that and also I mean our very own. Jordan Ronin you know wrote about this and just said they like they believe the giants coaching staff leaves the Dan Lewis could carry a full load like he's a bigger back and that they think he could now whether that actually ends up happening remains to be seen but I think he's a he plays bigger than he actually he's not a big pack is unique. Correct. I misspoke plays bigger than he actually is, and they think that he could, in fact, handle a full workload. Now, that may be coachspeak. We'll see in you know next man up kind of thing but. I would agree with you that if we're ranking them sort of you know on today on September whatever it is twenty, seven, twenty third. Twenty who keeps track? September. Twenty it's Wednesday week three. That's all I know like I. Know. What you're be like. When I get all season, it's like Wednesday week three and like I keep my head down and like just block intact. Now we're a tire button down shirt right? Right? No exactly I mean so we're GONNA. Finish. This podcast today, and then I've got like a I got a record something the fantasy show, and then I'm writing love hate like that's today. Okay. So at any rate We, think Dan Lewis, and then we think Wayne Gaughman would be sort of the order there but I do think it's running back by committee and by the way so far the giants under their new offense coordinator Jason Garrett have yet to prove they can run the ball effectively. Glad you brought that up because while my concerns about Saquon Barkley, we're not nearly as crave saquon Barkley is the kind of player that Saquon as a rookie he had a garbage offensive line and he ran wild now at the same time that offensive line with much different pieces is concerning. So I, think after I contemplate this one a ton yesterday because. I was deciding between Devante Freeman and Mike Davis, on waivers and war. Room League. My outlook for the entire backfield is just a little bit more rapid than it was even twenty four hours ago. Yeah and I think that's fair. Understand that there's so much me. So saquon did not do anything in his first game and a half they played the steelers they played the bears on the road. I mean, they played the steelers at home and they played the better. But the you know the bears at home in Chicago is a tough match-up. So let's see when they're schedule gets a little bit easier which it should after this week. And maybe even this week. The niners are out. There they're really beat up. There's still there's still a good I mean there's all sorts of beat up. The giant they could be, but I mean, they've got three starting defensive line out for this week. Players. Obviously. But so why don't you go ahead and name them Got nicb oh. Sorry. I can tell you who whose. Who Does just curious. Agricole's Solomon Thomas and for the year thing reminding. Ford is going to Michigan. He's. Good signs ancestor who knows how much he'll be able to do right Richard Sherman Not GonNa be there either still not on the defensive line but. To be throwing darts semi. Yes. Up. All, that Paul actually think. This this could present a problem for them. This week interesting could be yeah. Could can nick mullins play both ways will nick Moseman uneven start right off it looks like Jimmy Garoppolo has a glimmer of hope we'll talk about all that little. So, what's so I think we we have sort of our secrets. To point this out that like you know when you sit there and you're trying to make fun as to find you, you're just trying to like needle you ever notice I'm just here is just real quickly if you feel anger here for a second because when I when I point and poke you about the lion's share, everyone's SORTA joins in sort of like they get on board with a bit. They sort of go along with me. It's just kind of a a full steam ahead trained at U S here. I'm trying to do the same thing with defining like no one's helped me out now it's just so. Yeah. Apparently, we disagree on that actually I'll be honest all of us cannot wait until the Washington football team is three and thirteen at the end of the year so we can pay it back in full. Meter maid. Thank for Trevor Baby. That even if Haskins proves himself, believe me, they'll be a lot of people that are being a pay up to Trevor Lawrence and that number one overall pick I'm good I'm good. I'm fine with it the way. The first. Way We won the first one that we lose fifty. It's great. That's actually a great. Point. Let's move forward here sterling shepherd the teammate of devante Freeman. So I. Guess. The wrap up of this is just basically wait and see on the giants backfield. Let's you know. Let's not. Let's not put of them. I. Will Tell You that I'm writing my love hate list today the giants Backfield as an entity will be on the hate list interest. Okay. Yeah. No I get. Abd on Louis or Wayne Gaughman gets in the end zone for one. You know again, they are forty niners defense is really banged up but like the idea that you'll be able to know, Oh, you know I really need to start this guy of those three I think is a fool's gold. Sterling Shepherd for the giants also banged up right now on. Yeah. What's the outlook for him and we three? Not Great Turf. Toe. Issue and I think that you can plan on Sterling Shepard not being out there this week the question will be how long will this compromise him remains to be seen. So we got Philip Lindsey dealing with Tokyo and it sounds like the estimates based off of reporting I've seen somewhere between two and four weeks we've got sterling shepard probably GonNa miss at least a week. So Matthew, just sort of you know understanding that each ones different I notice to find you would tell me that but this could be one week it could be more than one week. I think what it means is that stock up early Darius again, stock up stock for Darius late, relative to stock up Evan Ingram stock up for Golden Tate as well. WHO's coming back this week right? We expect. Well, he was played. He played a little bit last week too. But you know my feeling is that especially where they run game now that you don't have saquon Barkley like saquon Barkley demands to be fed and I'm not saying him better person. But like if you're Jason Garrett you're coming up with a game plan, you're sitting here like all right. Well, I know I gotta get you know try to get twenty touches Saquon Barkley because by the way he's their best player, right so now you no longer have that. That concern. So to speak right and so now you're a little bit more free to like. All right well, when a run make sense can do it but otherwise like so maybe we see the Danny dimes that we expected this preseason. The one that you know I was a big sleep Ron I'm hoping that. Without Saquon Barkley there against A. A banged up defense maybe Danny puts in a good performance here on Sunday I. Don't know that I feel confident in starting any of them in a significant way other than ever. Yeah. But even Evan Ingram not super confident right so you know I would say on the titans but I'm just like. Fifteen Titan. No doubt if if you have if you have Evan Ingraham roster, you're almost assuredly starting him. I just want to see from all these guys I know. You're talking about how like The Washington football team could accomplish one in fifteen the hard way. It's only week three like a lot of stuff that we think right now could turn into fool's gold by October fifteenth soaker the giant is time to get going for the entire giants offense I. Think I still think we believe in the upside eventually, but the schedule has done them no favours up to. Getting late early as the phrase goes, right sure is but the next four weeks will be telling it to a lighter lift as you mentioned with the schedule Forty niners on the road, the rams who are good defensively on the road of the cowboys they are not good defensively right now and home to the Washington football team which has been okay. So far defense we not not amazing. Our secondary is right. That's a good way of classifying so. It'll be okay. Mobile quarterbacks if they can avoid the rush than they can find open guys. Let's get into our rankings talk for week three that's just want to mention. If you drafted to Shawn Watson as your quarterback. You IPO in two right now I hope you're not, but you might be right. You might start in three but man, do you need to be patient here? Remember was it last year the year before the Texans started Oh in three or maybe even Owen four Shawn Watson certainly started slow last year that certainly happened there was a year last year the. Year before they started, I believe Owen three and then I think it was two years ago because they avoided Owen four against the giants and like an overtime miracle game or maybe it was against the colts Frank Reich decided to punt in overtime when he could probably should have gone for it. anyways. They had this great comeback from an early season slump. You may need that in your fantasy team this year with the Shawn. Watson. You just may not love what you see on Sunday. He was fine and week one, right? He is averaging seventeen point eight fantasy points per game through two games so far this season that's fifteenth best amongst quarterbacks the problem is you drafted him to be a top five quarterback, not fifteen quarterback and this week matthew he finds himself in the exact same spot that he was at last week and I think what this comes down to is that we are still tantalized by the brilliance of Shawn Watson that it's hard for us to push him outside of our top ten. And yet, he's right there at number ten last week he was at nine ten believe I have met a lot justice. Yes. I have I just did last night. Yeah I Aaron Rodgers at ten and I've Watson at eleven there. So for people watching on the screen. That is incorrect. Think about how crazy that is that? What would you see or what have you seen so far from Aaron Rodgers versus to Shawn Watson that would suggest it needs to be close. What you, what do you mean? What have you seen like Aaron Rodgers been lights out. So, maybe I should have rephrased phrased that differently, what have you seen from to Shawn Watson that leads you to believe it should be close between him and Aaron. Rodgers right that's my point. My point is that air has been money into Sean has been the opposite he's been. He's he's he's been penny. and. They're only one slot apart. It's crazy. The right and you like the you like the matchup for Green Bay this week a lot more than you like Shawn Watson am on the road to Pittsburgh. It's I I wasn't question you. I was saying like it's wild like these guys are only one slot part I think the takeaway is that if you drafted to Shawn Watson, you probably don't have a second quarterback on your roster hang tight for one more week much better. Days are ahead because if you look at their schedule beyond week three, I mean it can't get any worse right? You play the chiefs, the Ravens, the steelers out of the gate, and then after that I don't even know what your schedule is but I know it's easier. I'll promise you that question for you though this philosophical one. Okay. Let's say you have to Shawn Watson. Let's say you're Oh to. Okay. Let's say you can pick up Gardner Menchu. Off of the waiver wire now I have I told you I've just Shawn Watson at eleven. Gardner Minhsiu at eight eight. Yeah, you know what I'm doing. What are you doing come? Taking up the Mustache Planning Tomorrow Night I. Agree Perfect Segue into the next player rudy discuss. While I agree with field in general assessment in terms of patients with Shawn Watson John Watson's a special player I, think at the end of the day he will get there But. If you're on to you need to win, you need to win this week and we believe you and I based on rankings. We believe that you have a better chance of winning with Gardner Menchu then John Watson doesn't mean it's GonNa work out that way but fantasy football's all about playing the odds and what's more likely to happen and Garner Menchu who has been nothing short of fantastic fantasy wise. The first two weeks against a dolphins defense that has been nothing short brutal. The first two weeks gives you a better shot at fantasy success this week then to Shawn Watson who has struggled for the first week against a steeler defense that has been nothing short of lights out. This season I think there are three quarterbacks that may classify into. You could potentially use them for one week this week that are available in enough leaks that you could actually make this happen garments you and we'll get into a little bit more Gardner Menchu conversation in just a moment Ryan. It's number for I bet well, that's I guess suppose job rural plays the Eagles and he's I think is consensus rank is somewhere around like thirteen this week for us. So a near starter also Ryan Tannehill who we can keep Kupuna. If you want go ahead Ryan Tannehill has been awesome again this season four touchdowns last week by the way just can you play the breaking news drop here? ESPN radio. I borrowed. Fantasy Life Baptist gave me an alert and I think this qualifies Sterling Shepherd is in placed on I R. Wow. To make room for devante Freeman This is per Tom Rock of Newsday. So, again Thank you to the APP for the status updates. It gives you all those alerts fantasy life APP, the giant. Yeah so I'm just saying. That's so stirling shepherds out for at least three weeks is what that? What that means to find yes. Yes. I mean it. You know what? I kind of liked. This new I R I know it creates a lot of movement and it can be frustrating but it actually for fantasy purposes gives us some clarity would they would not have had this option open to them in a typical season but because of covid nineteen as we've talked about before, they have the ability to move a player to I are and have him out for three weeks and then the ability to bring him back. So we know that it's three weeks and I. Think that allows the player to not be hassled every week by whether he'll come back in the team as well and it gives him three weeks of recovery. Okay. So that's actually that's good context there. So we know a minimum of three weeks for Sterling Shepherd a lot of what we said applies earlier so more continued good for Dang excuse me for Darius Layton and also Golden State, would you question for you shopping? Would you drop them? You now know you it's GONNA be without three weeks like and you're starting to getting crunch time and you're like. A bull, he's operable. Yeah. I think that we need to. There's a very different help people. I think people are smart enough to know. There's a big difference between would I drop him as? A player I think Ron because trump right like rock is like agreed, I'm dropping him without intention of picking back up later. Drop a bowl is hey, I need the roster spot like you know like, yeah. Can I afford to drop Sterling Shepherd to add Garner? Menchu? Yes. Yeah. I completely agree like we like Sterling Shepherd I think when he comes back, he's going to be viable wide receiver three ish right and we expect this giant offense to get better and we certainly like Daniel Jones. But yes, that's one of those that like if I drop them now because they really need Menchu or whoever and I don't get back in three. Weeks. That's all right. Yeah. You'll start his unlikely that dropping Sterling Shepard. It's going to cost you your league and I want to mention and I know this and I don't WanNa say that's defying. You suggest that it was only three weeks but it's a minimum three weeks right? Like so rack while in a lot of cases, it will be the players miss just three weeks and then they're back. It could be that you're on there for three weeks, but it actually is a six week injury or five weekend. Nothing beyond the alert but you know in terms of the alert, which was a reporter for Newsday that that tweeted it out there saying they made the move to make room for Devante Freeman. Needed to find the roster spot so it may be one of those things we're just like. We know he's heard enough to put him on I are for three weeks. We'll figure it out in the next three weeks of who you know who loses their spot win shepherd comes back and we have freeman on the Roth Well, they promoted a practice squad cornerback to the active roster. Yes. Right. There's all kinds of tinkering. So I'm not worried about they'll be the if they need if it will not be. The rosser construction that prevents sterling. Shepherd. From coming back in weeks, it'll be his toe if if it does happen and let's move actually correct are just quickly on Garner mentioned. I think we've teased it enough but you said he's been great so far this season he was really good last year as well. He presented the relatively high floor option and he's mobile enough to get you some points with his legs. Obviously he is. An offense that in some weeks like last week can have to throw the ball at ton 'cause they played a highly competitive but high scoring game as well against the titans and the dolphins defense. You know we thought this defense was supposed to come around a little bit this year it hasn't yet no. The high priced editions of have not yielded the I think the returned they expected him. At least at some point to do however, they also are going to probably be without Byron, Jones the WHO at the time he signed with dolphins was the highest paid quarterback and the NFL. So another big ticket player not available for Miami all these point to what we just discussed Garner Menchu's is in line for big data day I talked about it in the preseason he was a preseason sleep performer. He made the preseason loveless even though garments who asked who the hell is. Matthew Berry no I know exactly who Garner shoe is and I was I believe is the highest on him among all of our ranker's by significant margin here I will say that. Look to your point Minzhu. Mobile, right nine nineteen or more rushing yards and five of the past six games dating back to last week like you liked the offensive scheme fit their right. We've talked about this a lot offense coordinator Jay. GRUDEN quarterbacks coach. Ben mcadoo one of those guys like to do they like to throw and so and without Leonard Fournette they're they're no longer behold into having to give a running back a lot of touches. James Robinson has gotten the the backfield touches there but they're gonNA throw and especially given how bad their defense is. My expectation here is that Menchu who has averaging twenty two fantasy points per game in his first two. is a top play this week against the dolphins we all have them ranked as quarterback eight. No this is quite a perfect analogy but in some ways, Ryan Fitzpatrick and Gardner mentioned remind me. Of You and me Oh Ryan Fitzpatrick the elder statesman been there done that sometimes he's he's he's throws a pick. It's GonNa. Say sometimes you never knowing her you. Know. How I don't winners kids. That's fair. We could. You could be Ryan Fitzpatrick for Halloween this year. Bar`Ll It could be I think the difference between you and Gardner Menchu and there's a few. But one of them is he has hit puberty can grow facial hair. Wow I tell you what matthew I'm coming in my my beard is actually kind of Nice and have you been a month since you've shaved now it's been a day. I. Actually could grow better facial hair and you give me credit for and get myself if I don't believe that you're missing out on the point then then. Fine don't shave I'll see you Friday I'm not gonNA do Tamar. Show don't shave until Friday. Morning we'll see maybe maybe next week. All right. We're GONNA talk about running back rankings in just one second but I Daniel a word about our friends at eighty whatever you want to protect nobody has more ways to help keep you safe than ADT, which is starts strapping adt to all those NFL players out there Yeah. 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Because we talked about with the Shawn Watson, it's not like it gets easier when you play the Pittsburgh steelers. Yeah I. Mean Look I'm outside top twenty here you think about the steelers who've allowed the fourth use fantasy points to opposing running backs here they've allowed just ninety seven running back rushing yards this entire season. Second fewest in the NFL, they're the only team allowing under one running back yard per carry after contact they've been great tackling as well and so David. Johnson. Who came back to Earth after that exciting week one. To me is is more of a flex play. Here we listen. It's Gordon. Got Into the end zone last week against this shirt here. So it could certainly happen we expect him to get the majority of the work of the running backs here. That's but it's just it's a tough match-up. Here's a matters to me about David Johnson he's a flex in, but here's the reason why I'm not totally concerned by last. Week he's playing ninety plus percent of the snatch for the the text. It's hard to say there was like five running backs the plays many snaps as David Johnson does and if you're in so not saying that just because you play snap, it means you're automatically going to be a fantasy acid. But if you believe enough in the ability and I do believe enough and the ability David Johnson the floor is relatively high. Most weeks most weeks you're going to be closer to with top twenty or even eighteen play last week terrible matchup this week terrible matchup I think again, this is a player I was excited about going into the season. There's going to prove a lot of people wrong I think starting again next week David Johnson will have the opportunity to perpetuate. It feels like why would you not use David Johnson more in the passing. Game that when the Lake Cents Yeah I mean I think last week the game has got away from them. There's a funky game. Yeah. It was a Funky Game I. Mean to Shawn Watson was uncharacteristically sloppy with the football. The Ravens mean they ended up just the fourth quarter. The Ravens just smother that clock with the running gang them. It was not a good day for the Houston Texans they gotta get on track. If there are when three after this week new. Lenny Uncle Lenny Leonard Fournette Before we move onto uncle Leonard Fournette, I'd just want to ask secret squirrel I'm. GonNa do this real quickly here secret squirrels you can't do anything real quickly man. Without Letter in life I most in life I, mostly on the podcast. I messed up at the beginning earlier. Secrecy I talked pre show and he said he wanted to get into sort of theory on Mike Davis demonte Freeman if you'd Ross through them pointed not and so since we're in the running back section I thought maybe we could we could dive into that real quickly. So secrets. So yes. So secret squirrel asked asked was okay. Let's say you're in a situation where you picked up Mike Davis or. Or devante Freeman or even Josh Kelley who is out there in a lot of things that we liked lot Daryl Henderson and you picked him up not because you need a running back. You have so far Andrew Meyer, injury bug you're playing defense he planned the way where getting an asset. So what do you do now? Do you think their value is at an all time high now for desperate running back needed teams? or She just sit back and wait I have a thought here. But yes, I was introduced to Daniel it's probably unlikely that you got those players right because I think in most leagues Mike Davison Devante Freeman were the top two waiver ads and if you have a bottom to record, it's probably because you're running backs or other hurt or struggling out of the gate now that's again but right but in this scenario matthew. I think what I would be doing is if I got devante Freeman, I tried to trade him. And I think I feel I feel differently about my Davis Davis I'm going to utilize him as an asset on my roster for the next four to six weeks maybe longer maybe a little less. But if I got the day free, there's a chance is valued at its peak right now because there are still people they're going to believe that he could have a top fifteen type season in him. If I get somebody that if I could trade one of those if I could trade devante Freeman for a player that I'm utilizing in my roster weekly I would do it. You know it's interesting lake. So I'm in League where I'm Oh into okay. Right and my running backs are. No. But it is. It's one league. So I do have McCaffrey in that league but also have Joe Mixon. I've Julio Jones Will Fuller Mark Andrews did nothing AJ Brown. Yeah Ben. Rothlisberger like it's a good team, it's a really good team, but it's been bit by the injury bug a decent amount. But Not really at the at the running back position mean although McCaffrey McCaffrey last week was but McCaffrey had a my point is, is that McCaffrey had two good fantasy days before he got hurt? We going forward you're going to be quick about this. Yeah. Get used to it I. I just can't get over the fact that you play in sixteen fantasy leagues, and in one of them you're to like you're an expert aren't you the face of fantasy football by the way I would put this. I would put this team up against anyone. I don't think I'm still GONNA win this league real quick to anyways keep going Tell us about the. Whatever I'm just I'm only I'm being honest I can't let her own. IT IS A. Lavar Ball I've never lost but tell us about. Adding who you added, who did you grab off the waiver wire? I had Mike Davis and I was able to get. And I was able to get. Josh Kelley. Go. This leads a little bit funky with waivers. My point is is that. My point is, is that what I think I would do is I believe while the value may still quote go higher for these players like devante Freeman comes out and looks like old devante freeman value goes up than what it is maybe right now agree but the market may not be hotter than it is right now for them because teams are so desperate because there are teams in your league that are into that are panicking that don't have the just lost saquon. I mean, and so I actually would start working the waiver wire and I'm fine with. I'm actually fine with taking slightly less than market value because there's also a chance by the way that. Everything's right like like especially for Devante Freeman, right like I'm with you like Devante Freeman could come out and look old devante freeman come out and like be part of a committee like who knows right and so I just think this is a perfect weekend to try to shop some of the other guys you might have there and by the way like Mike. Davis, like we think Mike Dave is going to. Be Productive for the next four to six weeks right. So I might trade a more another asset depending on your running back depth that doesn't have to be the guy you just picked up it can be another running back on your team or other depth that you have because we feel good about like I feel good about the workload of Josh Kelley. I feel good about Mike Davis until McCaffrey comes back. I think your logic is solid. I like Let's go Leonard Fournette now Leonard Fournette last week had one hundred, hundred breakout game because it was still twelve carries but he had over one hundred yards yet to rushing touchdowns. Including that game sealing forty, six yard rushing touchdown I think it was a math little is a flex but I'm GONNA ask Daniel here Daniel I think has been a little ahead of the curve here with with Lenny. He wanted to make this happen. Are you comfortable with an rb to consideration nexium ranked seventeenth amongst backs I do so here's my thought if I am ranked at seventeen if I also had him ranked at twenty one like I would still be starting him there probably as air. Gap. That's fair. But the idea for me is that like we talked about, you know if we think that this Tom Brady led offense is going to be scoring points right then I believe the Leonard Fournette is going to be the either going to get the ball to I. I know that we saw it from Sean McCoy last week as well. But over the last three quarters of week to Leonard Fournette had eighty five percent of those running back points. Now, part of that was because of the big run on the touchdown but you saw them trust Leonard Fournette when it mattered and he looked good he. Looked pretty good. So the to me is like you don't bring this guy in to not utilize him f I think someone's going to get score there. I would assume it would be Leonard Fournette over any of those other. I, want to say one thing though you like you don't bring them in not to utilize him that like I'm not sure what the cadences right now with percents because he. Simultaneously Built Ronald Johnson up eight times over Ronald Johnson Jones excuse me on her why keep saying? Johnson Ronald Jones has been the starter each of these past two weeks like clearly they want Ronald Jones to be a big part of their offense. Right? Ronald Jones scored last week too. So I guess as much as I think there is logic behind the idea of making Leonard. Fournette your go to guy. It may not be as easy as with Tampa Bay because of how timofey seems to be orchestrating things I mean. I understand Bruce Arians one of the reasons why we admire him and love him in the media is because he's such a straight shooter, but it's like now people are wondering what the heck like there's some. Sort of weird signals being sent to gronk right like right rows got two catches in two games and it's like basically it's like tough luck like now they'll come if they come if they don't they don't. Right. So that was in Fornet was in Brady's we got to win video. Did you notice that? Who was he Tom Brady did a little bit. Yeah it's a little. Graham I think Leonard Fournette Ran. I rams then yeah I hear what I would say is for me, the concern here is I haven't ranked to twenty-five this and. Very. Easily see a scenario where he beats that ranking and I'm just dead wrong on it. But the reason of the ranking is two fold number. One is the concern on playing time like do I think he earned more playing time with his performance last week of course, I do but I don't know that the job is entirely his you're right i. mean we still saw decent amount of Ronald, Jones last week not a great match with Broncos. Right? I mean broncos six few is running back fantasy. Points allowed so far this season. So I mean the Broncos are beat up a little bit on defense, but it's still a better than average defense games in Denver. They're going to travel there and the other piece of it is is that Chris Godwin should be back this week right so we have yet to see what the Tampa Bay offense looks like at full strength because Mike Evans was you know kind of. On one hamstring and the in week one no Godwin last week right and so you know I just there's too many unknowns for me to say like Yep Leonard for a week in which there are. No bye weeks is obviously a no-brainer starter is just there's too many question marks for me yet, which is why I have as a flex play and not a top twenty guy. This week wouldn't surprise me if we all end up where Daniel is in the next two to three weeks but for now the patients between Matthew and let's talk about Jerick McKinnon. But before we do that, I want to ask you a question that I think is actually intuitive but. I don't know that people are really talking about enough right now spying Jerick McKinnon two years ago, sign with the forty niners for four years and thirty two dollars. Unfortunately he suffered a major knee injury at the end of training camp. He came back last year, and then that knee issue flared up again, he missed back to back seasons. This is a player who's knee I don't know what the state of it is, but I can't imagine he will ever have quite the same health in his knee that he did before those injuries he's now back and they might need him to play a decent role on Sunday but can you really give the? Football. Twenty Times Three weeks into a season in which Jerick McKinnon has been off the football field for twenty four months is it is it? Is it weird that I'm sort of cautious on the idea of him getting more than let's say like eight to twelve touches. I it's not weird at all. You're bringing up excellent points and I don't think they would have scripted it this way. But I, think out of necessity he may be pushed to a little bit more work. Obviously, you're operating within the context of the teams concerns about the field and also what they saw last week. Now I think that you're still going to see Jeff Wilson get work jerk in probably still. have. Potentially a touchdown away from Jerkin and that goes up and but I think that jerk McKinnon this is based on the fact that what he's done so far he's responded really well, he's look good. He hasn't had any issues with the knee and you know who knows at what point last season he might have been able to. You know once they made the decision for him to go out for the year. Done, you know if if you had the luxury of doing something like what they're able to do, this year could come back partway through the season it might have been an option. So I think it's hard to know obviously, they're watching it very carefully and you're right. They probably would not have scripted it that he suddenly would carry the majority of the work but I don't think they're going to do anything rash and if he feels good, they'll probably allow them to work more than. They would've anticipated I. Hope I'm wrong because I like to play a lot and think stories and inspiring one right now I've just got him running back twenty, nine years twenty-three each of you. So that's why I'm lower than you guys. I'm just mindful the possibility that he might get like I said twelve or so touches as opposed to eighteen or so touches that being said he is an excellent pass catcher and we saw last week he's got some juice. So you're more confident. That's all. It's not only more confident, but it's also not only necessity here but also the match up here I mean the giants allow David Montgomery and Benny Snell neither guy that has lit up the NFL so far this year so far in their careers, right but they montgomery and many snow combined for thirty five carries one, hundred, ninety, five, yards, five point, six yards per carry so far their running game has a lot to be desired here and given the the dearth of pass catchers and obviously even viable running backs for the forty niners I do think that even if it's only. Closer to twelve to fifteen and seventeen twenty touches I think they'll be high leveraged spots I think they will be used and in in a smart way here. My expectation is that McKinnon has a very nice day. Again, I am at twenty three. So I'm not going crazy here because I agree with you I don't think they're going to use them between the tackles prices Jeff Wilson Junior. And we'll see what this offense looks like if Garoppolo can't go. But like the match up a lot and a PR scoring, which is what we do rankings for. He should have a pretty good day tougher some pass catcher rankings and generation rising brought to you by EA Sports Nfl Madden Twenty one I player. We're GONNA discuss Calvin Ridley we all have inside our top ten you and Daniel both have inside your top five interesting question posed during our live remote show last night, which was if you got Calvin Ridley, would you consider trading him right now with the thought process being his values at its apex? Sure or would you would you say you know what? I'm here I believe is GonNa stay as it is and I would rather have a clear-cut wide receiver one for the next fourteen weeks. Any player is available trade. The correct answers is that any would you consider trading player? The answer is yes threats they've always the always has to be yes. Okay. The answer always has to be yes. It just depends on what you're offering. that. If the question is essence, right is like it do you think his value goes higher than it is now or could it? It can't go higher he's the number one wide receiver and fantasy by twenty points, right? Okay. So so my answer here is that if somebody is offering me If somebody is offering me what devante atoms tyreek Hill Michael Thomas de'andre. was worth at the beginning of the season. One of those type guys then yes. I do the deal. So let me rephrase the question because I think what you're saying I think we all understand that and get that if you had calvin really on your roster and he's twenty points clear if every other wide receiver through two weeks. Would you proactively start to make offers to other players with Calvin Ridley I would not. I don't see it going to get because I think what you need a value him do I think he finishes the year as the number one wide receiver and fantasy by twenty points I do not. Okay. That's an instinct I understand. Yeah. So I do not. So I do think yes his value comes down slightly so to speak but I, do think he will well outperformance ADP whatever cost you to acquire. Him On draft day he's going to grossly outperform and significant way. So to me his value is as a top five wide receiver and fantasy, and if somebody's willing to pay that price, I'm in Fort like other than that. No enjoy the ride and congratulations Kenny golly it's expected to make his return this week but suffice, do you have any concern you saying? No, I'm just not excited about it. Okay Gotcha. Got Got Patrick Peterson shadow coming back for sweet often doesn't look great. I didn't mean to take it from to. Do. You have any concerns about him playing this week senior. Well, he always did you guys have it's like a broken record right? Until the guy comes back and gets through game without a setback you're never really fully confident but you take some clues wherever you can and the fact that last week Matt Patricia said he was really close even before Sunday's game. There were hints that they thought he was very close and I think they did the smart thing by keeping him. Through week to let's see what the practice report show. But if he's back in, does this full practice every day or even starts limited Wednesday moves up to full the next couple of days and I feel really good about I've got him on a team I would be planning on starting. Am You have a comparison in Mile Sanders? Who again they held out because they were being cautious and then that week practice fully winning and was able to go the full length game without any setbacks so it's not like this is going down to the wire. This is something we're optimistic about a week ago. Okay. move him slightly my rankings after hearings to find you give him a clean bill of health. We sure Patrick Peterson still thing just GonNa ask you that I would love to see Mike Claes wide receiver cornerback matchup report is now up I think Petersen's a very good player but he I think even the there's evidence last year right I mean I mean Terry maclaurin like an offense can't pass Terry maclaurin. Let them up last week. Yeah. He here down season last year did Patrick Peter be the first person to tell you that it may not be quite daunting match but once was and I think this is probably just a matter of how confident you are in Kenan Golladay finishing the game not starting but finishing. The secret scrolls point Detroit offense like no, not taking any shots the Steve Waugh Detroit offense has looked out of sync so far this year out of centers really polite way to. Sink in the question is, is it out of synch because Golladay hasn't been out there and they've been trying to make do with like Marvin Hall and Quintas CFS you know or whatever like is you know in make Marvin Jones a one night a to like you know is that the reason why it's been out of sync or is it been out of sync just because it's Out of their preseason practices and whatever. So that there's just a little bit of of that there for me as why have him normally I'd have inside my top ten why him as a wide receiver to agree to find his overall assessment that if you have them, you're starting sued I'm tapping my migrate here just a little something. What do you got lines of winning on Sunday? Wow. Stab. Are you willing to make that guarantee Daniel absolutely not no I. Feel I feel I love you brother. That'd be too. I've watched the lion's games the last two weeks I just have no, I have no interest in thinking that we could stop cuyler Murray out there. Feeling about it, I'll probably regret that I. Hope that you're right man I don't care. Listen I feel like if if if when we're done with show every day, we don't regret regret at least one thing. On that are quickly on Keenan Allen because we're all over the board here I forgot about nineteen. You've got at thirty one matthew kind of inbetween at twenty six. Let me ask you guys. This is your ranking factoring in tyrod Taylor. Yes. Okay. Gotcha jump the gun I got ahead of myself. I am assuming that Justin Herbert's the starter this week and going forward if it were just in Herbert, where would he be? He'd be it'd be certainly higher. He was wide receiver eleven last week with Arbor Sixteen point six points, seven catches on ten targets ninety seven yards look like you and Alan again, and and so you know you love the match up with the Carolina Panthers here so. Look. This is this is probably a little bit too behind the scenes but I'll just tell you so in terms of rankings, right? So Mike Laid Mike Clay does our projections here at ESPN DOT com because our projections every week he doesn't amazing job by the way I just like, no one's telling me to say this I'm just telling you guys legit as somebody who's looked at projections throughout the industry Mike's are awesome. We get. We got the one email recently that was like, make sure you. Promote my oh but I like real talk because he's as we used to do love hate last week and I would do it off of Mike Clay last year I used to do it all from my claes projections and there were a pain because it would I would always they would there. So good. Yeah. I'd be like and get a love and I get it right but I beat him by like point two points. Like anyway. So Mike plays projectors a really really good and so I tend to rank. And trying to be in sync for everyone that that follows are stuff on ESPN fantasy that. So right now, the current projections for tyrod Taylor. So if ESPN fantasy and essence is saying tyrod, Taylor's the starter that I'm going to rank accordingly if we get news that Justin, Herbert's GonNa Start and by the way I agree with you my gut tells me Herbertson start he was the better quarterback. Anthony Lynn trying to play play deference to veteran by leaving if he's he's going to start if he's one hundred percent healthy but like I think tyrod is going to be in about ninety percent healthy by Sunday you know what? I mean like it's one of those things but at the moment, the official word from ESPN is that tyrod starter and that's Anthony Linda said. So That's how I'm ranking it. But yes, if Herbert were renamed the starter keen on would go much higher for me. Okay. Yeah. So that's why I've missed my top twenty. I said this on Monday excited from what I saw are by what I. saw from Justin Herbert I. Think we all are and I'm actually not surprised with Andy. Lens words you've brought this up. This is a former player, and there are those that believe you should not lose your job due to an injury This is something that many players have dealt with throughout their career, right? Alex Smith obviously lost his job as the Ford. Niners started a Colin Kaepernick after he got hurt and capital played brilliantly took that job for multiple years drew bledsoe your blood's yeah drew bledsoe, which did you know that that was exactly nineteen years ago today drew bledsoe was hit by Mo. Lewis Nineteen years ago out that. Did Not know that so anyway so but I'm not surprised by the Justin Herbert. Commentary Right now from Anthony Lynn I. Still think though that push comes to shove Justin Herbert starting somewhere between thirteen and fifteen games. This year I agree question just whether does he say, Hey, you know what I want. Carolina's let's give tyrod an easy start. So to speak does he does he do that? From has one yeah and an advantage of it. They played very far better in week two in a loss and they did in week one percent a win. All right. We're coming back with a couple of questions. But I hello football fans who live in apartments and big city. Are. Sympathizing with all you out there who want every live game every Sunday afternoon but who can't get direct TV where you live I have some good news for you. Now you can stream. Twenty twenty NFL Sunday ticket on your favorite devices with no satellite required and get every live out of market game. Every Sunday afternoon go online to NFL Sunday ticket DOT TV now to see if you're eligible why watch only one Sunday out of market game when you can watch them all catch every game. With NFL, Sunday ticket DOT TV use Promo Code Espn Twenty Twenty, eight out. The save fifteen percent that's Promo Code Espn Twenty twenty two save fifteen percent at NFL Sunday. Ticket DOT TV. Don't miss any of the action had NFL Sunday ticket DOT TV. Today. 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Anderson with Matt Rule is the real thing or is there something more here especially if they win on Sunday if he plays well on Sunday against the chargers I'm already sort of thinking that. It's it's a real thing. But if he gets, he gets the job done against the chargers defense it has multiple very talented cornerbacks. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. To me that's why the low ranking is just because the chargers just going to tell you. By the way, Dj more let's get a role maybe come on now come on now but just in general I think Robbie Anderson's more of a thing and then not in not a thing, my low ranking this week is more based on match K., T., y., Hilton, both of you guys have them outside your top thirty he struggled but obviously, some great matchups here thoughts onto I- Hilton this week better happened now or else I super super nervous. Yeah. Just, Hand Look Like T. Y. Hilton the offense out of sync and I don't think they need to throw that much against the jet. So I think it's going to be a big Jonathan. Taylor game I actually think it's GonNa be a big nineteen hines game. We'll see if we get some Jack Doyle. My expectation here is that you know Moala Cox get some love as well. So the concern on Hilton is just volume. Yeah is a he hasn't looked good. There hasn't been a connection there between him and Philip rivers and be like I. I don't think they're going to throw that much against a jets team that. Isn't very good. All nervous makes me a little bit nervous. He had that connection right in his hands in the end zone to which was. All right Hollywood Brown tough game. This week I haven't seventeen field. You admit twenty-seven Matthew at thirty thoughts on Hollywood Brown this week. So, why is seventeen a match up thing for you? Yeah. It's a match thing. The idea that if they're understanding ravens have really tough defense but if if there's somebody that's going to score the touchdown on this team, I like Hollywood I, it's probably hi is this tough match-up Awake. One will floor goes crazy week too key now and goes crazy other games that they played. Willfuller got blanked Keenan Allen was bad in week one, right? It may not be a tough match up. It's a weird thing that we've talked about a lot at Thursday can point can jump in here with this, but the chiefs are really good against. Perimeter wide receivers, perimeter number, one wide receivers they go deep. There's a cal stat up. Pop, on your revenue now yeah. But it's it's like Thirsty cows been pounding this for like a year and a half, and he always, he always always pitches me like putting whoever the deep wide receiver that's playing the chiefs on the hit list and I'm not putting Markey's Brown on the eight lists but I will say Kyle is right a lot on this one in particular it just it's weird and so look we expect a lot of fireworks. The Monday night football game cannot wait that might be here on chief savings right. It's good as it gets it. Gets. But look for me look wide receiver thirty and total points so far this season I am wide receiver thirty, right you know conscious of nine targets in week three against Kansas City last year and obviously is a different season. It's more experienced but I actually think in general it's not a tough match-up as you might think, but I think specifically for their deep threat okay I. Think it's a big Mark Andrews game interesting. Think it's OK Mark Andrews game big running. Back. Game. For the Raven One more for you guys here, James Robinson, undrafted free agent. Here we are week three, and now he is being ranked inside the top twenty at running back. We'll talk more about this during tomorrow's game preview obviously, but a lot of this right now by the way is the it's a great matchup brandon. The dolphins have struggled to defend the run through two weeks of specifically to quarterbacks as cam and Josh both had big days for them as throwers in runners More. So Cam as the throw or Josh Allen is runner facilities. Events is not particularly scary and. Let me. Talking about all they got you know. Let's talk about this again from the preseason I'm just telling you. If you ever want to just for fun. Try you rank the top thirty running backs on a given week and get back to me when you get to like running back sixteen? Gross, it's so hard. It's Yeah. It's really tough. So I don I'm not trying to mitigate with James Robson has done like, okay. A guy who's handling all the Carey's yes. Who has played pretty well in a pretty favorable batupped. That right there is a former get inside our running back scoring points yeah. Yup Yeah. The Gardner mentioned maybe take ornamental. WE'RE GONNA move ahead to Trivia. All right we've had we've decided to go away from the Football Trivia for today guys. Wow. There's been a little bit a little bit by the way thirsty Caltex, second-lowest perimeter completion percentage against since the start of last season, only the Patriots have been better chief since. Nineteen. So Okay Go. All right. We're going to go away from NFL Trivia. Here we go. I came up with this trivia question myself, God it's going to be crappy band three of these four crappy bands are real. Which one of these is not a real band. Okay. Jimmy eat world right American football K. taking back. Fallout kids. I know it. So I don't you can list list however you want the ones that are real or the one that isn't real. You get a point for everyone that you would have gotten. Right. So if you owe you ones that are really that are real. So Jimmy eat world. American football. Taking back Sunday. Fallout kids, three of the four of them are real crappy bands you've never heard of. Okay. Well, I wrote mine. Okay. Used to bind. You can go first we're GonNa all get just picks. Why would I write three when I can write one that kids is not real de follow kids is not real. It's fall out boy all. Wow. I got that wrong I actually football kids like I. thought that was a real band I screwed up American football did not have on their fair. Well. As the one I did not think that was real close to find I get three points. Gets to. The board this talk boy. Boy but I heard kids and I just thought Oh dance. Yeah The kid no, we're not. We're not really supposed to sing on the show you know workout issues but I appreciate I appreciate you guys actually having some good good knowledge around this pop culture stuff you can I ask you one more question? No. Won't get it right. This is a this is social question that comes from at sea underscore F. R. One three are, can you trust Anthony Miller after his goose egg last week? Not sure why you would Like why would you trust players coming off of a zero catch game in a sense like Was the match of good last week against the giants sure a nominal, right so Is it possible that Miller has a good game on Sunday, of course, butts if like the logic would be oh yeah. It's a good matchup against the Falcons and he's a talented player. The same thing could have been said like literally the same thing would have been said last week against the giants and he got zero catches it is maddening to me I don't understand it but there are a lot of things that the bears do as an organization that don't make sense to me. He's playing less than fifty percent of the snap. He's just not an every snap player and he got into the end zone against Detroit in week one, he did nothing. Catch, but he's just a guy that just for whatever reason, they will not commit to a full time role for him. I dropped him in a lot of leagues this week because I preferred Mike Davis and there was some other wide receivers that I preferred that had more upside. Miller I think Miller is a really talented player. I believe he deserves a fulltime roll free anthony. Miller. But until that happens until we see some consistency from the bears passing game and the bears playing usage. To me. Alan. Robinson's the only bears pass catch. You can trust which is weird. Considering Miller's actually had the better fantasy season so far he's gotten to the end zone. Once Robinson hasn't but robinsons at least playing pretty much every down. WE ARE NOT GONNA Make Free Anthony Miller thing we don't need to free players in the NFC if you wanna put someone in the NFC eastern more than welcome to Matthew we're not gonNA free both players in the NFC north. You don't get to make that call. Feel see you know. Would charge it. Has As you know, Matthew I feel like we've been We've been rushing your promos at the end of the show recently. So we've left. Had IT. All right. Well, listen for those of you play DFS for those who've listened to the. PODCAST. That want to try it wrote Oh pass daily Dot Com okay. So you get ESPN plus which starts there and I'm working with a number on a guy named Jeff Collins Jeff L. Happy. 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08/02: Rankings Risers, Zero RB, Regulators! (Fantasy Football Podcast)

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08/02: Rankings Risers, Zero RB, Regulators! (Fantasy Football Podcast)

"Here we go dotty Friday but I feel really good. I've got happy Friday for me. I pumped up. I have ready to go take you feel. I feel something you know so it. You know the song by Friday. It's a great day for football at what they say right now yeah I. I don't really really strong Bruce Willis not to cigarettes will thing it's a booth what it does sing the Song Bill Medley apparently while other songs sing that might be a little more popular than this. I don't know from dirty dancing okay great. I'm on my list anyway. Friday afternoon or morning is a great football that is weird. Dave yeah welcome to the show welcome to fantasy football today yeah. I've been a great mood. You know I'm in a great movie because our listeners are amazing. I was reading the five star reviews this morning and you guys are just crushing. Got It and thank you so much. It means so much to be honestly. Does I appreciate it. Thank you and I'm going to read some of your five star of you questions later today <hes> we have a busy show now. The one criticism that I get the most as a host is that I hurry the guys along so I promise I'm going to do a lot of that today because we have not gotten. There's too many many topics that I've wanted to get to this week so you're going to be on somewhat of a pitch a pitch count today a little bit of o'clock today. Let's get started here with three questions. Never GonNa talk about some rankings risers and rankings fallers and the hall of Fame Game Yeah. They should really what if you wanted to really move the podcast along with you just not talk about the hall of fame game or have the Friday night theme song for Kabbah Listen. You've got to make a decision biggest issue right now. We're going to have a bunch of obscure Pop Culture Rep. I actually like the move it along thing I i. I'm I'm good with the in and out yeah all right. Let's do it three fun questions Wendy you you draft the chargers running backs as of right now Friday August second the report yesterday that Melvin Gordon's agent recruit requested a trade last week when you draft the the chargers running backs. I'll look at color <hes> round six N._p._R.. I'll go there right now and probably early round seven real close to that in in non-pwi p._R.. Justin Jackson <hes> the gate comes off in in round ten yeah. This is the second time we've had this question this week and you just just not mentioned Melvin Gordon and he's still a chargers running and I will take Melvin Gordon in round four <hes> and I mostly agree with what David said besides that I I am the high guy. It looks like I think just I don't know if this is gonNA matter for fantasy but you think about where Melvin Gordon could end up if they do trade him. I think there's three teams that make sense. I think Tampa would make sense and accused it would make sense and I think buffalo would make sense <hes> in the case of Houston and buffalo they can cut ah running back and actually save some serious cap space that they could use to pay Melvin Gordon Tampa Bay doesn't have much cap space but they could come up with some <hes> I I don't know if I would rank Melvin as high with one of those three teams as I would if he were with the chargers so I'm Kinda hoping that there's a there's some finality to this hold out soon that gets Melvin decamp and we can go back to taking him around one Ecuadoran round nine or ten and Justin Jackson and round never ever and a reminder in three games without Melvin Gordon he missed four games but missed one of them in the three games played he had seventeen eighteen and seventeen touches he had five five and two catches in those games <hes> and have <hes> charters have routinely had a second running back get eight nine under ten touches in a game even when Melvin Gordon Southie bright and the primary that's part of their being by mortgage the russ get yet seventeen or more okay <hes> no question number two question the second. Is there anyone you're not drafting because of injury concerns as in. I wouldn't take Jacomb even if he fell to know round eighteen at their current A._D._p.. Yeah yeah at their current A._D._p.. The Guy who comes to mind for me is is Beckham because like he's in a group of similar wide receivers. I not going to say that's my answer but he was sort of the inspiration for this question. Maybe <hes> yes anyone at the current A._D._p.. That you're like now too. Many injury concerns not doing it Todd Gurley right at the top for me. That's that's the that's a good one. <hes> I would say the one like there are several reasons but the one that most comes to my mind is Sony Michelle what's his A._D._p.. At these days is if he's on so he's fallen out around four raising around five right yeah yeah I can't. I can't feel that excited about Sony Michelle in round five but I don't think that's terrible and you. I'm nervous about Alvin Cook in general though that's another one his A._D._p.. Is Stop Twenty. I'm not going to take them there. Delvin okay and final question. Do we have any fantasy takeaways from the hall of fame game we do. I have what I have one. I'm not GonNa let you guys just ghost beyond that well Brian Hill for the Falcons had eleven carries aries for fifty seven yards and he caught a touchdown as well and then I went back and I looked at Brian Hills game log from last year and he in week sixteen he had eight carries for for a hundred and fifteen yards in week seventeen he had eight carries for thirty yards Ito Smith Miss both of those games and Tevin Coleman in those two games without Ito's Smith Week sixteen and Seventeen for the Falcons he had two more carries he had eighteen carries to sixteen carries for hill and it's just like Gosh they would even at that appoint when they were down to Brian Hill they wouldn't even give Kevin Coleman feature work. What does that mean for Devante Freeman Kevin Coleman did get pretty big work for the first there's three games after the Coleman after the freemen injury including the game in which Freeman got hurt but then after that his last nine games that he played with Ito Smith Coleman had ninety I five carries and Smith at seventy two Coleman twenty-one catches and Smith had twenty that is way too even of a split and it continued with Brian Hill in week sixteen and Seventeen and for a guy you know for me who've been very excited about Devante Freeman just remembering the Brian Hill and looking up the numbers? This morning scared me a little bit. What do you guys think I just like? I kinda get what you're saying and I agree that it's not going to be a situation where one guy gets eighty percent of the work. They've got way too many running backs for that to happen. One or two guys get hurt and there's still going to chop it up a little bit most teams chopping up a little bit but it sounds to me what you were describing about. Seven Coleman's workload in week sixteen and Seventeen is what we would consider feature back work. No no ten nine Harry's again. I thought you said he had eighteen. I'm sorry that's all I'm sorry over two games he had eighteen carries and hill had sixteen carries he had ten in one game at eight and the other that splits Ville then. Maybe that's them. It's it's the last two games of the season right yeah so maybe they're just evaluating Brian Hill during those games they weren't going anywhere near but even weeks season seven weeks four through fourteen. I I mean Kevin Coleman Ninety five carries twenty-one Catcher Edo Smith Seventy two carries twenty catches that sucks verbal fantasy. It's brutal and I can't help but wonder if that's just part of the mindset of the Falcons. It's been that way for three years. So why would it change gosh well if they really don't like any of these running back behind Monte Freeman they might just have to they might just have to risk it with freemen yeah. I don't say okay. We're we're going to have to give you seventeen eighteen touches per game every single week the guys behind you stink give me fourteen catches three demi fourteen carries three catches a week from Freeman and I'll be I'll pretty optimistic. Do you think he'll get that not every week. I've got them for two hundred and twenty six carries and thirty eight receptions so no of course you would. It's a sixteen game projection right. That's fifty three percent of the teams rush attempts. Okay Gosh when you when you put it that way to seem so low fifty three percent of the teams rush attempts I even I would expect devante Freeman to get more than fifty three percent of the teams rushing attempts but don't don't buy into the hall of fame game as a reason to draft somebody no just a gentle reminder last Asher Hayden. I caught a touchdown in the all fame game. Giovane wins seven catches for eighty nine yards gus Edwards had thirty five yards on ten carries in the hall of fame game last year. Oh that was that was pretty significant. He was much better than the regular. No three yards per carry in the hall of Fame Game. We're GONNA the point in time on the hall of Fame Game. Yeah we have see now we gotta move on. Today's sponsor is seatgeek. Promo code is F F T on seek for ten bucks off your first purchase. I I was just looking at the other day at the Miami tickets for the for that game in less than a month and they're way too expensive but I was looking on seek and also I'm working that night because our radio show is back on August seventeenth ion fantasy football on C._B._S. sports radio you have serious you can listen to it. I think it's Channel Two oh six. It's been a while so yeah. We'll tell you more about that. As we get closer. I want to know as the preseason games are starting not counting last night <hes> who who were some rankings risers and fallers over the last few weeks training camps have opened reports are out injuries holdouts all that stuff will remove with the chargers situation but let's start with rankings risers guys who are some guys who are on the rise well. There's some pretty obvious names like Kurt Osama. We've talked about every episode for the last week Dante Moncrieff same thing <hes> Caleb Lodge. I think I don't know how much Kaelin rose for for heath but is rose quite a bit for me. <hes> a move that I made yesterday I put Devon Single Terry ahead of Shawn McCoy well because I just don't want anything to do with McCoy. I really don't think think that shady is going to be helpful for fantasy. I think at some point this year Devon Single Terry will break out and be a pretty significant part of the bills off to think Devon's single Terry's a better running back Mogoi right now yeah. I didn't think he was impressive in college and I don't think he'll get another. Happy impressed with what he did. Pointing is high school. Oh not always did you watch the Oklahoma. I saw some runs against Oklahoma. He's I thought I have moved Evans Single Terry up a little bit. I can't put them ahead. Ah McCoy right now. Let's all McCoy's the starting running back. I just I'm in this ridiculous. Draft just took in the fourteenth round of a draft like I don't WanNa Take Shawn McCoy in the fourteenth. Why am I taking somebody that to take take lots of players? You don't want overdue many drafts I do <hes> it's just all about value well. That's interesting yeah I had a I had an argument not an argument. I had a we jamie and I were on H._Q.. Last night before the hall of fame game and we were talking about the broncos running back news and Jamie said he'd rather have I've Royce Freeman at Royce freemen's value than Philip Lindsay and I disagreed because I don't believe in Roy's Freeman and I'm not getting Royce Freeman in the fourteenth round. If I were yeah I'd take the second and I wouldn't be opposed to taking Royce Freeman but I'd still rather have Lindsey and this falls into the rankings risers and fallers because I would imagine that Lindsay is a fall or for you guys the recent report that the the the Broncos from Yahoo Broncos like what they see from Royce Freeman they wanna make it a true split in the Backfield <hes> you know I just not sure I buy it because I think there's a new coaching staff. Maybe they're trying to pump up. Roy's Freeman Lindsay's better. He's just better and so if they're smart they're both going to get work no question but if they're smart about this yeah go ahead like Philippians. He's not going to be as good as he was. Last year. That's just a matter of why there have been twenty-eight running backs over the last ten years that I've averaged better than five yards per carry in a season only one of those running backs did it again the next season okay on a please Harry basis sure but but I think he's got more carries he that well what would determine that the coaching staff that continues to to do everything they do to tell us that they are not do not want to give a feature workload to Philip Lindsay. They want an even split in terms of Russia temps Lindsey. I Yeah I thought I was open to the idea that you know he could get one hundred ninety carries and then be earned that passing game work but when they went and signed Theo Theo riddick. I'm just pretty much out. I'm not going to spend a pig in the first four rounds on film Lindsey. I think he's fine in the fifth. He is one of my biggest fallers and probably one of the more significant the following is a lot of the guys that have fallen for me. I taken a little bit away from David and a joke. They don't seem very happy with him. So far in Camp I took a little bit away from Antonio. Calloway alloway Rashard Higgins seems to be ahead of him right now. A lot of those guys are lower in guys that you were taking at the end of baseball draft's or late round tied in types but Lindsay's he's a big name that has definitely fallen significantly can can can you tell me who you like better between Lindsay Carson because that's the one that I'm kind of fighting within my head right right now. I Lindsay getting ten touchdowns. I think that that's out the window. Royce Remains Healthy Royce. That's the thing it's like. I might not be good by Philip Lindsay for eighteen years of his life. No that's nice. I don't know if you can say that yeah like Philip Lindsay Philip. Lindsay proved himself last year these in my mind he his the advanced metrics are really good on him. He made guys miss. He didn't benefit from an amazing offense von. He just just had a straight up great year. If he's too small to handle a big workload I get that he's not going to get twenty carries a game but I just feel like the cream will rise and I do I. I also said yesterday. He thought on each when you know when we were talking about. I said he's not a fourth round. Pick anymore. You have to take him in the fifth round or later so I agree with that but I would rather have Philip Lindsey in in the fifth round then Roy's Freeman like the seventh round because I just don't believe in Roy's Freeman and even if the values better I don't I don't believe in the player and I just think Lynch and I think this comes a little bit back to the Court Davis argument again and just throwing out what their value was before the season because of one year of the the N._F._l.. And I I think I don't think you have to totally hold onto it and say I thought Royce Freeman was better than Philip Lindsay at the beginning of last year so I still think Roy's Freeman is better but I. I don't think you should just completely throw it out either. I think we need to leave open. That possibility that Roy's Freeman may have a better career than Philip Lindsey still look. I I agree with your general philosophy there. Are I personally though the first time I saw Royce Freeman I said it on the podcast I was like he looked slow and the first time I Alabama believer in available and the other thing. I'll say about that argument is I don't believe you have to spend a seventh round. Pick on Royce Freeman. I got him in the ninth or tenth yesterday. Rai Bright is A._D._p.. Right now is still tenth round so I think we're talking about the difference between Philip Lindsey in the Fifth and Royce Freeman in the ninth or tenth and I think I still technically have lindsay as a top fifty pick. I don't know that means that I'm comfortable taking him in late round four but it's it's something that I might have to stick to you because I do like the talent and I also think there's going to be a lot of games where the Denver Broncos are going to be grinding the clock in the fourth quarter and if that's the case I think Lindsay he's GonNa be on the field more riddick passing situation well. That's like the riddick thought I don't. I think you're overvaluing Theo riddick. I think he's there to replace Devante Dante Booker who will got right that was I was out. I wanted Philip Lindsey to replace Devante Booker T. Booker Way too many artists last year and he still might we got to see what Theo riddick looks like in <hes> acclimates himself to in this broncos offense so I think there's still reason for optimism and Philip Lindsey I I don't know you haven't projected for but if you if you ballpark at twelve hundred seven twelve hundred total yards and seven touchdowns I think you'll be I I think it'll be close to that provided. He plays fourteen plus games okay. Let's move on and talk more about risers and fallers here because Lindsay's obviously a follower <hes> is Mikhael. Oh Harry a faller patriots rookie wide we asked to be and is is hunter. Renfro the San Diego Padres outfielder slash Oakland raiders just wide receiver a is he rising ahead of Nikiel Harry in terms of rookie rookie wide receivers. No no no now I I get the hunter Renfro is playing great in the slot and might have the slot role in Oakland but I would still rather spend the late round pick on Nikiel hairy on the hope that he can turn things around in in training camp there. There's there are three slot receivers that have gotten a lot of attention in the first week of training camp. Renfrew is one of them Trent Taylor and San Francisco's. Another one Trey Quinn in Washington is the third it sounds to me like those three are going to be late round P p._r.. Maybe Deep League P._R.. Late round targets. I have moved renfro up and Harry down. RENFRO is eleven in points behind Terry now in my projections. I think there's a there's a chance that we're like two or three weeks from now and the starting wide receivers is in New England still look like they're Julian Edelman Philip door set more he's Harris and we have to strongly consider the fact that had to rent froze a better pick the Nikiel Harry but I'm I'm not ready to decide that right now. While you drafted Maurice Harris or door set is not yet no they're. They're right alongside the deep P._R.. Why not coming to twenty two round draft right now? It's a slow draft. I will progress. I probably will example but if I'm going fifteen rounds there's going to be better receiver and I'd rather have more Harris than Antonio Calloway right now. Too quick ranked that way but we're heading that way are we <hes> decay metcalf warnaco Harry. I saw Harry a little bit higher than Metcalf Harry over meckiff and one more receiver that gotten a little bit of <hes> there was a good report from from Detroit Lions Dot Com on Danny Amendola that he has a nice rapport with Matthew Status member go rotate caught ninety or more passes four straight seasons and then last year in seven games with the lions lions he was on pace for a one hundred and one catches so I don't I'm going to take the under on ninety catches for him and Ola but how does he look with with Trey Quinn and the other other Slava's in Hunter Renfro and Trent Taylor and whatnot I would imagine that fantasy managers would gravitate toward Amendola before the <music> other names of guys who are unproven a because they've heard of Amendola before be because they know a golden tate didn't that lines offense sure okay any other interesting it. We've talked a lot about late round guys any other mid or early round guys that are rising or falling for you. Most of my risers have come <hes> in the round eight plus range. I don't know if I've got any that are shooting up or shooting down. <hes> Kerryon Johnson is is one that is an obvious early round that we've talked about a lot rosier on Brown's rising right so that's one that I would put in the round eight plus been <hes> hearing really really good things about him. In Buffalo Jordan reads healthy. Every reporter in Washington is saying that he looks not ready to move him ahead of Jordan ahead of Eric Run N._p._R.. No neither am I but I am you are see I'm not there yet and Hebron's banged up right now so that's that's interesting that you would do that. <hes> Delaney Walker also seems to be healthy a couple of three rookies Boykin and keyshawn Johnson in Arizona Dexter Williams and Green Bay. Are you gonNa Take Dexter Williams and you're twenty two round draft. I took Dexter Williams in our fifteen round draft. The experts draft two days two days ago yeah. I took them in the very last round. I like the fit in green debate for him. He's he is a is a zone running type of running back. He's a good fit there okay and I think that one guy who in our minds has fallen a lot that I think maybe maybe we've gone. A little overboard on is Jarvis Landry I more or less have no interest in him in a non P._R.. League but I feel like all we've done is dump on Jarvis Landry who gets the point point where he's got like. I wouldn't take John Brown over Jarvis Landry which you I haven't I haven't drafted him but I also haven't moved him since the start of camp so that's why I didn't call him a fuller sure right okay yeah I just it was kind of felt to me like he's got a lot of negative momentum. I just want to get the service Landry's A._D._p.. Real Quick Lemme Lemme. Let me ask you this sixty seven th overall Curtis Samuel has been a hot name with videos on social media and great quotes from his offensive coordinator later and we haven't heard boo about Jarvis Landry <hes>. Who are you drafting I between Samuel Landry I would take Samuela non P._R.? League I would take Landry and half or or four P P R how `bout you I'll take landry and both <hes> and that's not the discussion that the drafters are having right now and you look at Landry's A._D._p.. He's being taken ahead of Mike Williams ahead of Tyler Boyd ahead of D._J.. More ahead of Robbie Anderson had a Dante Pettis ahead of Christian Kirk at of Sammy Watkins ahead of Allan Robinson. I had a dede westbrook. That's ridiculous. Yeah <hes> yeah I I'm deedee. We we can keep dumping on Jarvis Landry with my point a little bit yeah. I could see that because it's a it's a nice spot for wide receivers. 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Download download the sneaky gap the Promo Code is F F T for ten bucks off your first purchase your news and notes and later your emails a fantasy football C._B._S.. Dot Com. Oh and we're doing doing some regulating today. Get excited Jerry. Jones is confident about signing Ezekiel Elliott to an extension and I'm not going to talk about this anymore. We'll tell you that in six games without vowed Ezekiel Elliott Alfred Morris had ninety nine carries for four hundred thirty thirty yards and a touchdown but he also gave Rod Smith at forty three carries and four rushing shing touchdowns in a receiving touchdown so it was kind of annoying but Alfred Morris is back on the team. Ben Rothlisberger says he loves football again guys. I never stopped loving football. What's up with that Big Ben? I don't know what that means. I don't know how to interpret exactly what that means shooting shots. Let's see here Mick somebody in Oakland here that he's taking shot level. What's the shot that love football to deal with the drama yeah with Antonio Brown yeah? That's how I I'm not saying. I'm on been side or agree with him. Under that's what he's saying is he saying that A._B.. Doesn't love football and I think he's just saying it's more fun to come to work. He was going to work with somebody it was. He didn't get along with the next person's not there anymore and so he loves it he when I tell you that I'm not on a show like you you. You're like Oh okay. I get super excited yeah. I'm like if you were gone and moved to Oakland. I'd be like man I love podcasting again. Yeah and I love the weather. It's not that great. You're around <hes> Rothlisberger A._D._p.. Eighty fifth overall it's still way you too high for me without A._B.. We've gotTA look at it. In terms of what quarterback he has overall not where because every quarterback is going to still hilltop twelve number eight for me. He's the high guy in Rothlisburger to two items on the jets backfield really early Levy on Bell said he wanted to apologize fantasy owners or he wanted he wanted to tell fantasy owners last year that he wasn't going to play already apologized and they signed Ryan Ryan Kalil the jets science center Ryan Kalil to a one year eight point four million dollar deal he was retired. He's a former stud but can't be a bad nothing for Lebanon Bell. No it can't be I think Ryan. Kalil is an upgrade in terms of intelligence and experience ants on that offensive line. I think it's a mistake to expect him to be as good as he was even two or three years ago. I don't think he's I don't think he's quite as now these quite the same type of linemen as he was but if it makes you feel better about driving levy on bell go ahead Lebanon was not happy when he was told that he wasn't a first round pick by US Brian McFadden was just the jets camp McFadden talked to Labor on bell and he told me about that we don't have a first round pick and leave and did not like that okay and just a few more items your Cam Newton still not participating in drills so again Mondays are quarterbacks preview Tuesday tight ends and then we'll do running backs as well either Wednesday and Thursday or Thursday and Friday but yeah I mean I like you heard me talk about cam yesterday. We're excited about cam but still there's some progress that needs to be made with that. Arm Cleveland Cleveland Wide Receiver Antonio Calloway reported to camp out of shape. That's why he's just mentioned Calloway as a follower and Jacksonville Rookie linebacker Quincy Williams is out four to six weeks with a torn meniscus discus but Yanni is expected to report by August sixth. Dave we got a lot of questions about schedule strength and how much it means fantasy. You have an an article published. I'm giving you five minutes on this topic Dave so keep that in mind <hes> what would you like to tell people and tease your article because you know if you don't if people want more than five minutes of analysis. Please read the story <hes>. What would you like to tell people about schedules this year? Who's got the good ones the bad ones and whatnot well I the the story is a full breakdown of what I think? Each teams opposing defenses look like from week to week basically graded out the defensive lines is linebacker secondary pass rush. I considered depth of course because there's going to be injuries. Along the way coaching also mattered graded every single one of these defensive offensive elements came up with the total number applied it to the N._F._l.. Schedule added added some other tweaks in there for teams that had on the road all three games in a row or had to play an opponent coming off of a by things that put team at a disadvantage and basically came up with a ranking for who's got the best and more schedules across the National National Football League and also broke it down for the first four weeks of the season because I just I don't think it's worth it to look at fifteen and sixteen okay. I'm looking for a guy that's going to have <hes> a a real easy scheduled then when I'm playing for the fantasy championship that's not worth planning ahead for. It's worth planning ahead for the early part of the year finding teams that have early schedules schedules early on teams that I think have good run schedules early in two thousand Nineteen Carolina's top five team Pittsburgh Org is a top five team the forty niners a top five team the browns or a top five team and the bengals are a top five team a lot of good running backs in that group top five teams have great passing schedules in two thousand nineteen. The cardinals take on a lot of teams with passes pass defenses that I don't think are are really that great. Panthers are in the top five there too. They've got a really good schedule the jets the eagles are in there and the Patriots because they play in the A._F._C. East. They're going to take on the dolphins and the bills and the jets those are three teams with bill secondaries and really that bad but the other teams are really bad. Dave got the top ranked wing pass defense over the course of the season. No sorry pass rank top ranked pass offense just clarify well. It's not it's not the offense scheduled schedule right right yeah. I'm outta misspoke a little bit there <hes> so did I and there are some changes in the first four weeks. If we're just drilling in to the first four weeks of the season <hes> Ravens Stevens Panthers Bills Cowboys Seahawks have great early season run scheduled so just an idea mark Ingram has it should be somebody that you're GonNa Start Your plans on starting marking him every week but I think he can get you off to a hot start and maybe if buffalo whichever running back they decide on to be their starter. Maybe maybe there's an opportunity there for that player to get off. The fantasy team got off to a good start top. Five <hes> schedules for the first four weeks of the season cowboys are number one both run and pass. I think DAX going Oh Man I love it. I love it. That's Great Star Grobbelaar Garoppolo Guy Yeah Yeah yeah problem most week one. The most interesting start is is Arizona and I don't know what to make of it. Just because it's they've got a lot of kind of question marks on their schedule. I start off against the lions. Defense offense that we think is improved up definitely be good against the run. They have at least one very good corner. They've got a defensive minded head coach then they go due to the east coast all the way to the East Coast for one o'clock game at Baltimore Defense that lost a lot from last year but has the coaching and has earl. Thomas scares scares me just a little bit. Didn't they get Carolina who has an awesome front seven and Seattle who's always good defensively but we don't know 'cause they also lost a lot of pieces. That's a really interesting start. Seattle is one of those defenses that I don't have graded highly against the pass. I I'm I'm worried about whether pass asked Russia's GonNa come from and I'm worried that their secondary it's not the legion of boom anymore. It's going to be more like the Legion of duds either linebackers or the the strength. I'm walked Seattle's defense a lot before last season because they had lost a lot of pieces going into last year but they still had some semblance of a pass rush they did like they. They still had some pieces there that help their unit play well there. It would take a master stroke by Pete Carroll for them to be a dominant Annan pass defense again this year all right well. Yeah I wrote down in my notes. David Johnson's first three games could be tough but it looks great after that Detroit at Baltimore and Carolina Carolina Does Not Have Thomas Davis anymore. He's always been kind of a key to their run defense but they did add Gerald McCoy but when you have a guy who catches a lot of passes running back who catches a lot of passes. That's why we love it so much then the match ups don't matter quite as much and then I passed our five minutes here so let's just do like your quick thoughts on in Green Bay at Chicago Minnesota Denver Philadelphia at Dallas Detroit that is just not fair to start and when they play Detroit boy they're catching the lions as they come off a bye so the lines will be rested for that game in week six. They've got the <hes> they ranked dead last in projected strength of schedule both for the first four weeks of the season and for the year <hes> they ranked at last I four weeks of the season <hes> in passing terms. I don't know if this is GonNa stop anybody from drafting Aaron Rodgers devante Adamson and I don't know if this information should be the the backbone of your draft strategy. I tend to use this stuff stuff as tiebreakers more than anything else but yeah you see that early slate of teams that Aaron Jones is going to run into and you know that he's got a hamstring injury on top of that and you know the packers running back in general under Aaron Rodgers do not consistently put up great numbers. I'm pretty much at the point where I'm ready to walkaway from Aaron. Jones is a top thirty fantasy pick. They put up great numbers per touch. I think but they don't feature one guy. They haven't featured one guy since lacy. Probably that's if you can give me one second I can give you the stats on it and that'll blow your mind on on just how bad packers running backs have been. Are you ready for this. Yeah go for it all right so let's do a little trivia. If you don't mind heath you can participate as well everybody Ah home or at the gym or on your commute play along Aaron Rodgers has been a starting quarterback for eleven years. How many times in those eleven years has a packers running back one one packers running back at at least two hundred carries? Everybody get your ties Adam. You're correct. It's four times. I'm so good at guessing <unk> etiquette really good. I'm always closer or spot on. Have I sent this to you. Is that why you know okay all right question number to eleven years Aaron Rodgers quarterback in the packers. How how many times in those eleven years as a running back totaled over one thousand yards not run for a thousand yards totaled over a thousand yards? It's your number ready. <hes> three revive Adams right again. Yes okay how many running backs in the last eleven years and had seven or more touchdowns with Aaron Rodgers total touchdowns touchdowns. Yes six four dam and Aaron Jones Credit. He's one of them. He had nine lash alright Dave. We got to wrap it up. So cool point point taken all right Atta makes three proclamations David Heath tell him how they feel feel about his three proclamations proclamation number one mark Ingram is going to be a beast and he should be going at the end of round three not the end of round four in a twelve team league as he currently is disagreed. It is hard to say that about a twenty nine year old running back. I know he's not a typical twenty nine year old running back. I wonder if he's got closer as many touches as Lamar Miller has but I'm I'm not there with Mark Ingram. You could talk me into late around four but lay around three. I just think that there are too many other players. I'd rather have yeah. I don't know that he necessarily has a big increase. <hes> <music> over his career high in rush attempts which is two hundred and thirty God Gimme two hundred and thirty carries Mark Ingram is going to be amazing Gus Edwards average five point three yards parts per carry last year. They're going to run the most so well right I don't. I don't think saying Gus Edwards averaged five point three yards per carry last year means that Mark Ingram joined average five point three ride your four point seven. He's going to be awesome and he's GonNa score touch all right. That'd be good fine. They disagree with me his A._D._p.. is about forty six or something something like that next one. Mike Davis is the most underrated player in fantasy right now bears running back. Mike Davis outside the top two hundred in average draft position. I think you're probably right on that. One Mike Davis is going to have really good fantasy value. If there's an injury to either David Montgomery Mhm Reorder Tariq Cohen and there is still maybe a thirty to thirty five percent chance that Mike Davis is just more trusted did than David Montgomery when we get to week one. I've everything I've read out of Chicago and Chicago is that the the Front Office and Coaching Staff Love Montgomery. They love his physicality. They liked like that. He can catch the ball out of the backfield. They feel like they've upgraded on Jordan Howard and he's going to be given the opportunity to be the lead back in Chicago. Cohen is probably going to be in line for around ten touches per game. Davis is going to be below that I bet there's GonNa be some games. Davis only gets two or three touches per game. I'd I like how about this Adam. If I draft Montgomery it's GonNa take a pretty decent pick to get him spending. My last pick on Mike Davis is a handcuff is absolutely the way ago because I don't think this coaching staff wants to give Tariq Cohen Fifteen eighteen touches per game if they don't have to all right and then my final proclamation the Marquis Valdez scanning hype has now made Geronimo Allison one of the best draft day bargains Alison outside the top ninety now in average chef position outside the top one hundred on C._B._S.. I'm with you on that. One one hundred percent I I'm glad that envious is developing some chemistry with Aaron Rodgers battle matter but allison's been developing chemistry with Aaron Rodgers for a couple of years now and I love his style in the slot a tall shifty receiver who can take advantage of matchups in the middle of the field and then make a play after the catch. I'm I'm I'm excited to Dr Alison Round eight nine <hes> Yeah I. I don't think well is eighty. PS Ninety two on fantasy football calculator <hes> that's that's round eight. That doesn't doesn't make him a very good value. I would take an immigrant. I don't necessarily disagree that I would like to draft him in round eight or nine. I think I kind of agree with that assessment but I've got him at pick one hundred in my top two hundred so I don't think is an A._D._p.. Of Ninety two makes him one of the best values. You're going to have to disagree. You're closer to C._B._S.'s current A._D._p.. He's currently at one eleven point six on our site. There are a lot better values in that all right and let's guys stuff CALC. Let's let's take a break. We're GONNA come back. Heath wants to talk about his zero rb team. which he loved turned out really well? That's up next on fantasy football today. Also your five star reviews and fancy regulators we right back with all the names games and stories that demand your attention. It really can't be daunting to get your arms around the college football season. Luckily one podcast is ready to crew. Oh you five star prospects to come join the best coverage around on the cover three podcasts. 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I wrote that article earlier this week and immediately got some feedback that it's always been dead ever since it was ever conceived never actually worked for anyone which is not true. I appreciated the feedback I am in the <hes>. The razz bowl draft Chris Towers is also in there's another one of these big big drafts and do I started with the tenth pick. It's a P P R league and it's probably my favorite zero running back team. I've ever tried many <hes> wide receivers you starting. I start my first five pig. Not I'm sorry the roster roster set up as a to receiver league three receive three wide receivers and to Flexes Okay Oh well and I started my draft with Juju at the tenth pick tyreek Hill coming back in the second round Zach Ertz with the tenth pick in the Third Brown Robert Woods coming back and Calvin Ridley with the tenth pick in the fifth round Juju tyreek Woods Ridley and Erz phenomenal in love and then my running backs weren't even as bad as I was afraid they were going to be. I got Kevin Coleman in the second or third pick around six six which is relatively close to what is A._D._p.. Is I know he was one of Dave's breakouts. I expect him to be the best running back in San Francisco and that's been pretty pretty good and fantasy over the last couple of years Rashad Penny came back to me in round seven. He's more of an upside guy that I'm targeting with zero. Running back builds that I think he can take the job from Carson at some point and of course in gets hurt. He's got immense upside the electrical floor pick next with latavius Murray. I'd anticipate. He's going to score four seven or eight touchdowns this season. He's a very good flicks. It's funny mark. Ingram had this role for the last two years and he was a fourth or fifth round pick <hes> now Latavius Arabia's Murray's and eighth round pick and probably a similar role. I took Adams favourite running back after Latavius. Mary took Royce Freeman in the ninth round. I would look I wouldn't take him in the ninth round two I would absolutely the tenth pick of the Ninth Round Yeah Absalon Dion Lewis Coming back around in the tenth round and then in the eleventh round I got Matt Brita then took two quarterbacks Ben Rothlisberger and Lamar Jackson and then took Lamar Jackson Jackson in early Shawn McCoy in the fourteenth round so my running backs are Kevin Coleman Rashad Penny latavius Murray Royce Freeman Dion Lewis Matt Brita Rita and La Shawn McCoy if I don't have to starting running backs out of that group then I'll agree with something Adams said that's that's the poster for Zero R._V.. That's good. I like that's exactly what you're shooting for if you're going for waiting on a running back here's the thing that he I think he did get a little bit lucky with some of those running back picks <hes>. They're all basically right around there A._D._p.. Though we're coleman like Kevin Coleman going zero be right now Kevin Coleman should be the the centerpiece of your strategy but is exactly what I wrote in my article Oh yeah but the problem with it though is that I suspect Kevin Coleman is going to be one of the biggest draft risers like if I'm just predicting the future three weeks from now when we're talking Coleman's A._D._p.. is going to go up at least around. That's just a guess right now. I think it's great value. I think he's GonNa Kinda. Separate himself wolf and he's around six on C._B._S.. I got him at pick sixty three his C._B._S.. A._D._p.. Is Sixty two YEP yeah so I mean it's a great but but if you don't take home in there <hes> you know we talked about it yesterday. The two guys that sort of go back to back Coleman and Lamar Miller the Mar- Miller might be you're like you might go Lamar Miller deontay four-minute instead of Tevin Coleman Matt Brita or something like that. You have to go a little earlier on four men <hes>. Do you feel like Coleman. Penny latavius Royce Freeman Dion Lewis Shawn McCoy breeder. Do you feel like you have upside with those running backs or just like you know Arbutus. I think I'm going to have to top twenty to two top twenty running-backs most likely to top twenty four running backs for sure out of that group. I don't anticipate I'm going to have a top twelve running back out of the groups and there's not a lot of upside aside but I have four of my top twenty two wide receivers and my number two tight end so I've got the upside on the roster at those positions. I don't need too much upside at running back. I need guys aren't going to kill me yeah do you. It's full P._R.. Yeah I mean that to me. That's qualification number one to do zero R._V.. I'm not doing zero are being a non P P R. I did it in our picked by pick series and I didn't really hate it doe thing you. I think you have to realize sizes when you do that in non P._p.. Are The wide receivers like I got Julio Jones and Michael Thomas <hes> from the tint spot in our to start on P._R. and then Robert Woods a little bit later but I think it works because you're going to get better wide receivers later who you're running backs Phillip Lindley Lindsey Kevin Coleman Latavius Murray Dion Lewis Carlos Hyde Duke Johnson Dexter Williams yeah. I'd I'd rather have have I'd rather have it all done in a full P._R.. So I I'm not even considering zero rbm list the catches count and that's why I like your zero team in the razzle. Also much is because you've got so many guys the receivers get such a great boost compared to the majority of running backs at are out there that it makes sense <music> detri- zero rb the only thing I would say as I don't do this. If you have a pick in That can be your only running back for the first rounds and you can have a great team and I've I've actually done that in a lot of my leagues the last few years Mouna what you call that the one on our be strategy but I like something like that you're you've got your cornerstone at running back. You're going to collect a bunch of good receivers that are catch a lot passes and be a team and then you're just you're making the weak spot of your lineup your number two running back then you're just going to shuffle through until you find somebody like almost like streaming streaming the number two running back if I could start my team with Saquon Barkley our top four running back and then Keenan Allen T. Y.. Hilton and then Mark Ingram O._J.. Howard I know that's not one our beer's all right fine so that's that's how I would've another receiver? That's how I would do it but if that were or Calvin really and O._J.. Howard and then load up running back after that I didn't pretty I'd be pretty happy and one thing I have noticed from a lot of drafts? We've we've done because we've started to do more three wide receiver P._R.. Leagues including or three obviously remark drafts happy our P._R.. Including three wide receivers plus a flex as soon as as you start three receivers as soon as you get three reflects especially. That's like the running backs just fall. You're going to get great value there so I'm I'm interested to know how is zero are B._T.. Would look in a twelve team league with two running backs too wide receivers and Affleck's might be a little trickier. There says yeah that third receiver though it gets easier easier all right here are some of the questions from the people who left us five star reviews and thank you so much from Zach. What is your opinion the biggest difference in changing draft yeah strategy moving from a ten team League to a twelve team League C._P._R.? If draft more more players the draft is GonNa take a little longer. <hes> it's <hes> I am. It's weird. I'm actually more likely to take an elite it quarterback in a ten team league than I am in a twelve team and saying you could explain why if you want to but to me it's because everybody's going to have a great quarterback. Okay you want one. That's going to be at the top of the top so that's it's easier to try and fulfil in a ten team league when the draft rounds are shorter and the quality of players last a little bit longer than they wouldn't a twelve team league. You're getting two extra players around falling in ten team snake draft. I also also I I you could also apply the same thing too tight end but you're going to do that in a twelve team league anyway you know that top tight ends or are going to be valuable. I I don't think you you reach for or them necessarily in a ten team league but maybe you try and target them close to their A._D._p.. Maybe in the case of Zacher it's a little bit sooner. I would also say a twelve team league in a ten team League that you've been playing in. You don't have to worry about floor at all. It doesn't matter <hes> in a twelve team league. You've got to consider it a little bit of safety in your team all right next question. I don't have names for some of these questions because you know it's just like the Apple I._D.. When I'm looking on itunes or apple podcast you should just read the Apple I._d.? Now what's gone now. Sorry in an auction but they're not in my notes in an auction. Do you always nominate who you don't want or do you do you try to get a read on value like nominating Kelsey to see what an an elite tight end goes for. I'm mostly just nominate who I don't want. I'M GONNA NOMINATE WHO I don't want my first two or three nominations and then I'm going join to nominate players that I think the managers with the most money would be interested in <hes> so I get into a leaser type focus during an auction and when there's somebody who's patient and they've got a lot of shackles left to spend I wanNA. I'M GONNA look at their roster stir. I'm GONNA say oh. They need a quarterback well. The best quarterback that hasn't been nominated yet is Shawn Watson so I'm GonNA nominate the Shawn Watson to try can trigger that manager to spend some of his dough. There's also the strategy that Jamie uses which is his first nomination is going to be the top T._S._T.. And it's going to be for a buck and if he gets them for a buck he's happy and if someone else bids two or even three on a d._S._p.. He's happy then too because somebody else's spending money. It's just they're only only spending two or three. I want the manager to spend five to thirty in the case of top running back if they need a running back next up this is not a question but a fund review. I wanted to read from Seth in York Pennsylvania. The fantasy football podcast fantasy football today podcast is the best one around to find a better one would be as difficult called as finding a Thanksgiving jazz cd anywhere else but a starbucks. I you have Adam the host of the show. He's the Uber Nice Guy of the group the kind of guy who would feel sad for seedless watermelons watermelons because what if they wanted babies he's always coming up with creative topics and games to spark debates next year of Jamie whose advice that's my mind that he's when it comes to difficult decisions nations I just closed my eyes and imagine on being carried to a fantasy football championship in a kangaroo's pouch while breathing in the sweet dewey air made from UNICORNS breath then there's Dave geography Wiz and Pizza Connor said he often offers a different take on topics for a nice mix and his always at the ready to defend his his views. Finally you have heath who I imagine. His breath is the perfect combination of old Milwaukee and little debbie snack cakes. He supports his views very well says to you even know. Do you even know me. Ah First off I I did drink a lot of old Milwaukee in college. When you buy a case for six dollars I might have to go to the E._R.? But I I am craft beer connoisseur seth and I am definitely the least likely person on this podcast to have their bread. It's like little debbie snack cakes. I don't know what those who's the most likely who had lost likely to have little debbie snack breath. I everybody else can be a tie for first but I'm last yeah your blood is going the smell like fancy beer and barbecue yeah pretty much barbecue great Saudi Michelle and the eighth or Chris Chris Goblet in the tenth P._R.. Godwin Godwin I'd go Godwin. Is the Hopkinson hype the real deal the beat writers are loving Hodkinson long-term yeah yeah absolutely I just had somebody asked us before we went on the air today. Who Do you like better fan or Hopkinson Alec fat better and seasonal and Hopkinson better? I'll take them both in the in the long term. I think Hodgkinson's Winston's a future pro bowler I think he's I think he's really really good. I just don't see him getting more than fifty five seven hundred five that'd be fantastic for rookie and top top twelve might be top twelve much more bullish on him a month and a half ago half P._R.. League Mark Ingram in the seventh or D._J.. More in the Ninth D._J.. GimMe more. It's more especially if you can keep him for more than one year. If this is just a one year deal I might lean toward him taking him personally personally but I didn't really get a chance to defend my ingram take but I will next week on the running backs preview. Let's regulate arm. You're right this is from Eh drew dear squad Chey Bird Person Jerry new boob. I have to look it up. We're in the eighth year of a keeper League. keep a rule. Stay that you can keep up to three players at a at at <hes> Keeper Leagues State You could keep up the three players at a two round price or keep one player who was drafted in the first three rounds of last season as your first pick. We've always always chosen draft spots. I then announced the keepers before a firm deadline but recently managers have been asking why don't we declare keepers before choosing the draft order I see pros and cons on both sides. Should we adjust the rule a little more hard core. If you a- declare the keepers before the draft order because then you can't use that draft order to your advantage when picking your keepers well I would like I would rather know who's going to be available. When I pick where I'm going the draft and strategize yeah I can wait until the seventh pick their seven good players and then I get a better pick in round two so yeah I would definitely I mean the first off the answer to should we adjust this is you should have a vote and whichever side gets the most votes is what you should do but I would suggest choosing outing your keepers before choosing your draft to this? If if you guys are really into fantasy and you love this league and you want it to be tough you declare the keepers before nude figure out the draft order all right. Let's consider that one UH regulated next up this is from Donald Well Shammar the third what a regal May and that is fear. The're Peterson Gonzalez Wilson and Balboa. I bet welsomer doesn't drink milwaukee way. Also I had no idea what old Milwaukee was the beasts. Oh these are Adrian's. Milwaukee's best is beast. That's what I drink beer. You GotTa know this. That's not hardly Abeer. Did you ever drink King Cobra no all right guys. We drank a lot of that in college. You can ask your brother about it. Adam Peterson Gonzalez Wilson about bow our Adrian's my fortieth birthday day and my eighteenth anniversary fantasy football draft both take place this Sunday in the past. I've helped my draft on the weekend after week. Three of the preseason however ever considering on coming up on two pretty big milestones his birthday and the eighth anniversary of the football draft. I moved the draft up a couple of weeks to coincide with my fortieth birthday. A few of my league mates have accused me of Bush League ary for holding the draft that early last year bell bid a few owners in the butt with his holdout now we have Zeke and Gordon threatening to do the same I think given all these facts factors and circumstances. When is it too early to draft and Wendy you like to draft your most important leagues and crazy and yes Donald Donald this is garbage? You cannot move up the draft because of your fortieth birthday. That's ridiculous anything. Have the draft on your fortieth birthday. That's what he's he's doing. It's Tara and he he's trying to exactly on the fortieth. Those you know this weekend up to have it on his birthday and league mates see I read it as he's moving. Bring it up so it no it's okay so the mirror so he's Donald. You're looking at this all the wrong way your mates or right but you're also looking at this the wrong way we get to this stage in life and there are very few occasions throughout the year where we're giving basically a free pass with no responsibilities responsibilities where I understand. You're going to make some decisions that you wouldn't make most days of the year your fantasy football draft is one of those dates. You were fortieth birthday as one of those dates the those together now. You're only getting one date. You should definitely separate them. Put the draft back where it belongs after week three and you get to dates in one month. It's going to be a great month and win. Is it too early to draft now for sure now like honestly we're doing too many honestly honestly honestly really anytime in August to early. I you can't help it. You'RE GONNA YOU'RE GONNA go late. August after the third week of the preseason is fine but I if if I had my druthers it would be September you know if you're pretty good at prognosticating then do some early drafts 'cause I've actually had success in early drafts and and like if I were great yeah if I were drafting now like Devin Cole I would take Kevin Coleman and I feel like I would have an advantage over somebody drafting in three weeks something like that but you know if you feel like you can predict the future. Then drafting now is good but it's just not as fun. It's not as fun all right. We got along today. We got a few minutes left. Let's read some emails thank you for the regulators questions to be honest with. You wasn't the best batch of regulators questions. Bring some spicier once bring some league hatred. Bring some stuff that we can really dig into all right. This is from Joe. Joe Has a feeling about tyler effort this year. How do you guys feel about Tyler I for <hes> if he had a good opportunity to begin the season on a on a high note? If you had a good schedule to begin the season season I'd be more inclined to get him. Three of the first four games for Cincinnati are on the road weak ones at Seattle. I think Seattle has a safety that can can match up with I for than their homes San Fran apple flow at Pittsburgh. I don't I don't I don't like the schedule so I can't call him for that. I would go with I can't. I don't like it for the reason he is. They okay I you asked if there was one guy we weren't drafting because of injury concerns and this is probably the poster boy for it. He's he played like four games in the last two years feels like he is going to start the year. Those matchups aren't great. He is going to start the year without A._J.. Green there are going to be targets available. He may make it through two or three games without any sort of injury. I don't like if you're at the end of the drought. I can't imagine taking him instead. Instead of Jordan Reed and Jordan reads always there in the twelfth round but I want him but if you're at the end of the draft and Jordan reads not there. He's not a terrible guy to start the season with yeah all right. Take that this is from Marty. He's a steelers fan steeler. Oh this is cool. My wife and I are renewing our wedding vows and decided to take a honeymoon. We never had we decided decided to each choose our most favorite thing to do and have to vacations in one. I'm taking her to Waco Texas to take the grand chip and Joanna Gaines fixer upper tour she's dreamed of. I don't know what that is sounds cool then. We're flying Pittsburgh for the steelers home opener. I live in Washington but had been a steelers fan since I was twelve. I've never attended an N._F._l.. Game just I've never attended an N._F._l.. Game he's forty two. Just lots of college. Games go kooks so my wife thought it would be it would be great too by us. Both Antonio Brown jerseys since since they were a bargain. She knew he'd been traded face Paul. She seemed very proud of it. I couldn't say no so I came up with the idea to take the brown names off the back and put just and married on the backs of the jerseys. I'm now trying to figure out if this is awesome genius or an awful plan or awesomely awful hoping you can help and yes. I'll be buying a New Jersey the minute I get there. It's almost like a regulators yeah this regulating but yeah you're stuck. You're stuck with the jerseys you made the best of that by putting just married on the back and I think I think it will go over well in Pittsburgh. I think the fans they're all like all that really make your on an anniversary trip with your wife as as long as she's happy with the situation but you don't WanNa get booed out of the Stadium Brown Jersey I don't think you will. It's a job once awesome. It's good yeah it's great. It's really great trip very fun trip. That's a fun show. That was a great show.

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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 611: Washington Name Change, in Conference Games For Power 5

GSMC Football Podcast

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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 611: Washington Name Change, in Conference Games For Power 5

"Tape yourself in the loop of everything football under the golden state media concept's football podcast latest news on off the field be at College Football Big Ten sec big, Twelve Pac, twelve ACC to the NFL with got you covered. Listen to the golden state media concepts football podcast. What's going on? It is GMC football podcast on GMC podcast network. It's duo that can do no wrong. It is Bryce. It is Ethan for back again on a Tuesday to bring you all your football, not just NFL football. News topics and discussions. But you know how we started off, we always got to check in on our. Great Co Man Bryce. How are you doing? All these. Great do another show which you. Doing well I'm doing well just. Just the same old thing, though thing on the most part man just going through every day one day at a time. Just trying to live it as best we can during this time period in our lives, so you know. But yeah, the most part went well man. How about you? How are you I'm doing well. You know I was trying to get. Really creative yesterday I was making. A short film for myself just to do it because they haven't been able to really go out and shoot anything as far as filmmaking for a while, because of course Kobe nineteen. I haven't a lot of people around to help. But I thought you know what I'm not gonNA. Let that stop me. I'm going to do my best and I'm just GONNA, make this little film that I wanted to make. In the middle of the day, because had an idea in the shower. Do something cool so? I think he's GonNa. Turn out cool. I've been working on the lake. The rough, the rough sketch rough edit. However. I definitely busted my behind yesterday in the midst of. Trying to strive for art. And, my knee cries this morning due to it. Hopefully it'll be okay, but right now. We are trying to survive. Open here speeding recovering and get one hundred percent, so you don't have to worry about me more me. Problems can be lingering, but. Hopefully to you wear and. Maybe Yano able to finish your short bill. Yeah, I was able to finish it may. Think dudes to adrenaline and shock. The pain didn't come in until. Later on during the day when I started sitting down and not move around. But As the day went on and definitely started to attack on. But yeah. I'M GONNA have to take today as a rest day for sure. Understandable. Nine well. Enough about knee injuries that don't relate to football. We have a lot of things going on in the football atmosphere, the football world football universe that needs to be discussed, and that's why we're here today at GMC I. We got a lot of news to cover, so buckle up. Going for a ride. Opting out bryce. NFL This thinking about players opt out of the season due to covid nineteen. What can you tell us about that? yeah, basically the NFL in the NFL PA are discussing deadline a date where players can decide if they're going to play the season or not. Because, obviously, if you see a real sports leader, they've named the players a chance to not have the place. Obviously, you never know what conditions the players. Could be under their family. Members have underlying conditions or they newborns, or they're just a situation where they cannot allow themselves to be exposed through the sports that they play to nineteen. Obviously, some people are just in fear of their own health, just not willing to get it. So you, so they're trying to work on it eight. We. Don't know when the date is. They don't have a rain almost I. IF I were them I would assume. Maybe late August Craig, the regular season, navy potentially turns. It may be a period where you can kind of. preseason games still. They can allow the players to kind of see what the protocols? will bit and the players uncomfortable with it or they just really. This isn't working and have the ability to sit out. Obviously I feel like the NFL is different. -sition leagues because. You know. For the most part I would say nfo. Dreaming Rosty so I'm sure when they make these data also protocol for case. If you have a player who drops off and you obviously eater replace him needed. I'm sure they'll still have the fifty three man roster. They might increase. This is to. We don't know, but. Basically, you know I think this is a good step moving forward to allow players to essentially not have to play it they once. You mentioned before when we talked about this before even that. Some players may be not comfortable playing in a lot of players. You've seen many players in baseball off. Though you've seen obviously you know Boston. Battle players who decided not to come? We know about some some soccer teams here in America just basically didn't play and denied joined the MLS comeback so clearly. It makes sense in the NFL to give players the ability to have play in those conditions that they do not want to play especially funding crowd. intially they haven't fans and just you know. Maybe you're! Areas more Kobe effected and others, so maybe you're just like a hammer. Billing it. Really just depends on the everybody's particular situation. and. It might be a pretty big F you see maybe some big time. Players even opt out of playing in the season. Laugh to see, but yeah, so ethan like what are you? What are your thoughts on? I. Kinda happy like okay. Yeah, they should give the players and opt out and you think we might see any potential major players. Say You know what I'm just not going to play this season because you already have a couple of players. Who are holding out for money, but they also use Kobe as another excuse to not play as low. I think that giving the option is always the best. Way To go about this. If you didn't give them the option, then everybody would complain that. They didn't have an option to opt out when it's covered thing actually. Really really the size strike strike fire and I would say that a lot of players probably have to consider it. But I also think that most players will choose to play the not, and it's because. They. Haven't there is incentive? To play. There's incentive to make money. Most NFL contracts are not guaranteed. And definitely not fully guaranteed. So. You're GONNA WANNA. Play to make your money because if you play that in film makes money and everybody else makes money. Because of that so. Even if you are in a contract holdout, right? And this is probably the worst timing ever to be in a contract holdout. because. If you sit out. You Yeah you save a year off you. Playing for that means you're another. You're older depending on your position. That could be really really bad for you. And you don't get to. Showcase your market value. For one season. And if you weren't that great to begin with. then. You're putting in a lot of risk that they don't find somebody like diamond. The rough or they don't decide if there's running back and they go running back by committee, and it shows that it was more birth more valuable than just giving you the ball, the whole time, or even if you're like a defensive end or something like that. and. They feel like you may be talented, but you're not. Worth paying a lot of money to. Considering that they don't know where to cap is going to be in a few years. I think a lot of players are probably going to take the tag now because there's no. There's no roadmap to what the. You know the salary cap. Is GonNa live light. There's no road Macktaz no roadmap to see. How money works in the NFL for the next few years, so. Is GonNA force a lot of players hands to either say you know they're gonNA stick by their guns and hold out for more money. And more guarantees, even though franchise tags technically are fully guaranteed money for one year. If I remember correctly. Yes Coppola guaranteed for one year right, so I think even just that alone means that is more likely that people start signing tags rather than. You'll see them fight for more money. For a longer deal, because even though. Security on a longer deal. Matters and you should fight for it, but at the same time. You kind of have to get it how you live right now and. To get something fully guaranteed like during a pandemic is probably the best option in my opinion. But, we'll just have to see on that. Yeah definitely and I also think you know funny because Patrick home got his. Obviously, we know about his I think what was one hundred, forty, one hundred fifty million dollars injury settlement in his contract, and you might during this period of time might you might see players saying hey, like if we play. You know maybe we should have insurance like the NBA players insurance. We should get insurance or something like that. We did it Kobe. Happens especially, if you. Are Guaranteed some. Or, if somebody does sign a deal, they're just like hey, can you put it injury sediment Mike contract just in case because you never know. The one player has cove. They have long term effects where it keeps them from playing. Obviously, you don't want to be a want. Everything stopped coming in just because of the thing. So, you could also see that potentially being something. That could. Be in the works potentially. Because, obviously you WanNa make sure that at all times and you can. Be Protected for potentially going out there listening. Or potential. I, guess career you could say and. Like other report obviously in Canton. See I believe it was. I want to say it was Chris Gentle not only is the start offensive tackle Nova. I'm getting his name wrong. With Chris Jones yeah remember. It. He's a holding out right now because. You know he he wants to get paid in. He's threatening us out the entire season. In that's why had earlier. Do you like a they you? He he could save money, but he also could use Kobe and be like. Hey, if I'm. GonNa Risk My. Potential health plan for you guys I. WanNa. Make sure on pay to play for you guys. You know so. That's something that also has to of. You. Know Linger around. Obviously, we know about other potential hold data and cooking etc, and we don't know who's going to season, but you know maybe in that could also be a reason like you said how some players are going to try to take the guaranteed money that could be potentially by went ahead. Sign Franchise. Is! He knew risk in the season at Kobe. Yeah, what does pay me, but? You know depending on what happened might kick this thirty one. You don't had just in case. So I think it really. is going to be really interesting to see. How it all Kinda works out because like I said NFL. Aaron are having a lot of discussions. About, what's going to happen, sister season is readily causing. The. NFL is no longer the last chip to fall here as far as waiting to see what they're going to do. Like. Let's keep this in mind. The NFL hasn't had to make a really crucial decision on the season. Really since draft like the draft, of course, they couldn't do anything. And they pulled it off with like whatever they could do, and they did a really excellent job with the draft. Kudos fell, but now since the drive. They haven't really had to have a real plan in place on how they're gonNA. Deal of Covid nineteen as far as. If, they're going to delay the season or not. And to say that they had a plan. Of course they have contingencies. They were cleaning facilities. And you're trying to bring people back and see what the landscape was like, but considering they've had all this time. It may even backfired on them to have this much time to. Scope out the landscape so to speak because. covid cases have, been. Rising rapidly over the last few weeks in his getting closer and closer to win. People are supposed to be coming for training camp and. When facilities is supposed to be back open and people are supposed to be coming back to work and. It is the timeline does is matching the NFL to find a easy solution. because. It's not like they're building a bubble system for the NFL. They're still planning on traveling to Games. Of course, there's no way they can just do in conference, right? There's no way they can do in division games like the NCAA's looking like they're going to be doing. It is going to be extremely difficult. To maneuver this whole operation is whole season. Without some sort of fear that a large amount of your players will be potentially exposed to covid nineteen. And the players. What is what makes money? The stars of like if the stars stark. Contract and covert nineteen. It is going to be problems. It is going to be a nightmare in the news cycle and. You don't WanNa see NFL. Have to shut down abruptly in the middle of the season but I. don't see how in the world we're going to get NFL season. That doesn't have some sort of scrutiny to it and I'm honestly. Really concerned the see since they're planning. The do no preseason games or they're fighting for no preseason games. I'm very concerned to see if they do play preseason games with the first game will look like and imagine if the first preseason game. There is already issues and people saying well. Doing preseason, we might as well just stopping now so that we don't have to get into the regular season and potentially. Lose all four momentum that we could have and then find a way to push it and delay. But, the thing about delaying is you don't know how long the delay is when you don't have a vaccine. It's not like there's. A timetable on when the vaccine is coming, so you just delaying for hope and there's no real solid plan, but. Take our first break and come back. 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And tell us if you enjoy the show or not, it'd be great to interact with us because we are always trying to better ourselves and also like to talk to everybody, so don't forget to follow our social media. BRYCE! Are you aware. Of covid nineteen. Yes I I. Think I am very aware of the nineteen all right? Were you aware that the cardinals owner? Michael BIDWILL was hospitalized for covid nineteen. I'm actually not aware that till literally I saw he got out of the hospital. Exactly! I did not know amid all this other news I was not aware that the owner was hospitalized so. Arizona cardinals owner Michael Bidwill was released from the hospital two days after he was announced, he would tested positive for covid nineteen. The team confirmed on Sunday. The team announced Friday that the fifty five year old chairman received a diagnosis after recently spending few weeks traveling on the East Coast. He was submitted to Rhode Island Hospital sometime afterward. he said this week I learned firsthand. Just how serious covid nineteen is, but will said in a statement released to the team. My mentz appreciation for all of those on the front lines of this pandemic has only increased in. I am particularly grateful to tremendous nurses and doctors at Newport. Rhode, Island Hospital. I am also overwhelmed by the outpouring of kindness from the Red Sea. Colleagues in Arizona in throughout the country. I'm very fortunate to have these this experience behind me and strongly encouraged to continue practicing the important measures to avoid it themselves. BIDWILL is the first NFL owner publicly known to HAVE CONTRACTED THE NOVAL CORONA VIRUS Bryce I gotta say. I haven't even thought about the fact that. A lot of these owners have not really spoken about covid nineteen outside of just team statements. and. As far as how they are doing themselves a lot owners old right Jerry Jones is not a spring chicken. Where Jerry Jones GonNa, be it's GonNa be on the sidelines. I. Don't think so. Is he going to be in that press box by himself? Because there's GonNa be no fans in the stands right so. I guess he can be in the press box with his family, but. I don't know it's getting kind of kind of funky right. But. First of all I didn't know. Bidwell was fifty five years old. He's pretty young to be an owner to be completely honest, yeah! Like wait usually sixty five plus you say. Maybe even older than that, but to be honest I. Don't really know that many owners if I know an owner is probably because he's he or she has been around for. A long time right so. You can only assume they're getting kind of old like. especially with the NFL I always think that for the NBA Rather. There's a little bit of a a young. Young GM sort of thing going on Cleveland. You know signed a GM who is a thing in his thirties. Still he's not very old. Not Cleveland Cavaliers, but you know Cleveland browns recently. Oh Yeah. Andrew Behr, yes. I guess there is a little bit of you in the NFL. front office ranks in the ownership ranks a little bit, so that's interesting. glad to hear that he ended up doing alright, and he's back home, but it does show how serious covid nineteen released gotTa take it serious people? As we know Arizona is in a really really bad spot with cases, and the previous idea was that the heat would essentially kill the virus. That is not the case. Arizona is one of the hottest places in the United States on average I. Believe yesterday in State. It was hundred and fourteen degrees. Unreal right. I can't even imagine if I saw that. On the temperature gauge and I'm outside. I'm just laying on the ground I'm not moving I'm done because they. Out of out of ever on your social media timelines ever sold at one A. tweet about I think if we get a one hundred and thirty degrees that would kind of kill the virus. They were only sixty degrees away it just. Just a little bit, and it could be cured here in Arizona. That that have self is just. Can we survive at one hundred thirty degrees? I don't even know have lot of air, conditioning and a lot of. Man I. Don't know that would. I wouldn't even step outside. I'd be so fearful. But AC full blast. Yeah man moving on from one red team. To a team that depends potentially changes color scheme while it changes its whole new identity right so. Washington professional sports. The NFL has changed. The whole nine. So they are retiring the nickname. Of The redskins and the logo as well. And the new nickname is to be determined, so. Dan Snyder seem no longer to be referred as the Washington Redskins team announced Monday, that it will be retiring the team, nickname and logo. and. Today. We're announcing that will be retiring. The redskins name logo upon completion of this review. The team said in a statement Dan Snyder and coach. RAHM are working closely to develop a new name in design approach that will enhance standing work. Are Standing working closing to development, the name and design approach and The tradition, rich franchise, and inspire our sponsors, fans and community for the next one hundred years, so first of all before I continue. How much does the coach really have a say? In this whole thing isn't just the put him put his name out. There does not really like Rama Vera this much to where like Oh Iran Ron? Is A. What do you think we should change? to He just got there. I mean yeah, but I'd be. Heavy hard. You say I mean obviously. But I'm like you. I mean noticing makes sense. You should give him the ability. To change the name I I believe Ron has some. I don't know if I'm incorrect in saying this, but I I wanNA say he has some type of native. usery of. His bloodline slow. Emmy! Obviously, we didn't make more sense to. You, know talk to him about it as well, but also it should be like a group decision. You know what I'm saying because you don't want to leave in a Dan sliders against. And you know obviously who you got to have a group of people you talk to hire people, but I'm sure they like to just keep it in house around various very respected man I'm sure like we would love to have his opinion a lot of. Because! He has that type of demeanor about himself as well but. Did you hear about that one issue, they could run you. What's what's that issue? Apparently there's a retailer in Alexandria. That trademark pretty much every possible new NFL nicknamed the Redskins could have they base training about trademarked about. Fourteen twenty names potentially the names that we were talking about basically trademarked all of them so now they can't use any of those names, or they have to go into a legal battle with him over that name. They want to use it for franchise, so you might have to see them. Do something either doesn't make sense, or they're gonNA come up with something out of the Blue, because about twenty twenty five nicknames have been taken off the table because because somebody's already trademarked those Washington names, because it's the, Washington been wherever named insert here so it's not just the name. It's Washington, etc, Washington, minding etc, etc so hopefully. Maybe they can find a way around it and still find something that I guess fits what they want to be in the future or just fits the type of franchise. They WANNA be since they have a limited amount of options through names. But when the only point of buying all these trademarks, so that Washington wouldn't be able to have them so that they have to buy the trademark from him. Does actually that smart. You can make some money now. They'll probably getting the solid. You nillion our maybe ten twenty fifty. Alley they want that name. He's going to give it up or Feign like if he's trademark twentysomething names. He's definitely come out of pocket quite a bit. Gimmie trademark for something is not A. Is Not inexpensive in the least right they do have in a process, so he's done it twenty. Sometimes. That's insane, so clearly have the money to do it but I'm sure he's trying to turn a profit on all this because imagine they don't use the name and he's just been sitting on this basically for nothing. Absolutely nothing. And he only did this because he knew that some point, Washington would be forced to change their name. In some degree or fashion? So this is his. This is his time to shine what he's saying. So he's probably about to pull up to Fedex field and play our God these twenty names, as he showcases his his overcoat, his twenty different names. Lifted on the over. Which one you want? I got the trademark ready. Let's do business that's I. Just have to assume that's what's going to happen here if they really enjoy a name that they. Particularly own themselves without the trademark. And slow. They. They say it's a smart move. It is a smart because I'm thinking about the filing is. He filed his very recently as well so isn't like. This was years ago, so he obviously Oh. Yeah, they're up chaser day. Let me go. Hey, get. These are trademark so that way if they really want it, they have to go through me so I guess maybe the tip you never know. Maybe another team wanted to change their name potentially professional sport in. You're just Kinda like well. Let me. Just take some recommendations off the table, and if they really wanted to go with that name, they have to go through me too giddy. So. You know so like if you live in Cleveland for example. You know the Cleveland Indians maybe next on the chopping block. As far as name changes, some people will think that. Even the Atlanta braves may have some have some potential name. Change stuff coming. But honestly I feel like landon braves would be more of just the imagery Tomahawk rather than agile. Name the braves. and. He said honestly they might just do something with the chop that they do. The Games instead of actually soap so taking away that. My work in suffice well. So you know obviously. You can see Washington ill will definitely be interesting I. Think Ethan to see what name they come up with in what they think. Works for them, basically what they think. They can think of I would. Well, the team announced July third. It will undergo a thorough review of the team's name in Monday's announcement was an effort to keep sponsors, fans and community apprised of thinking as we go forward and the big. Underlining point in that sentence is. Sponsored. The. Money, they had to keep the money going. The organization had been known as the redskins since nineteen, thirty three, so former owner George. Preston Marshall Move to the team from Boston and DC in nineteen, thirty seven on July second, a group of eighty seven investment firms and shareholder signed three separate letters to Nike Fedex Pepsi Co. Threatening to terminate relationships with the team unless it dropped the racially insensitive next and later that day, Fedex, the company with naming the rights to the team stadium formally requested the franchise to take action in the review began on that day. The team will still continue to deal with legal and other issues as it works to establishing a new team name before the start of the twenty twenty NFL season. You, know. You know you gotTA. Admit it. This is probably the most exciting news Washington football fan has had since the days of getting rg three in the first overall. Pick right art have to assume what what good has. Washington, really had since then. I mean they didn't have that one class us. Kirk cousins outside of that really a bunch nothing. So, yeah, this is excitement if it was my team. Right the plenty of other reasons why. Some things might be coming down the pipeline for them as potentially needing to change. Ownership and things like that a lot of underground stuff going on the NFL. Are being covered up by that organization that I feel may come to to late soon if the I wanted to report on him more for example, there's a there's a whole little scandal that I don't know if you've heard about about the. Archdiocese, in the church. And covered the emails. Yeah, covering up the emails, though we still don't really know exactly how that's going, but if it gets worse, the saints may have to relocate or get a new owner at the very least. And, that is also something that I have to think about bud. We are going to take another break and we're going to come out talking about some. Free Agency news well. It's not really free agency, but agency news and. Movement trading topics you know. Transactions! Coming up GMC. 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Agents severs ties with the free agent running back. devante Freeman are already uncertain. NFL future hit another snag. Sunday night as NFL, networks Mike Civil reported that freemen's agent Christian Campbell notified the free agent running back that she's terminating their relationship. Campbell notably negotiated the Five Year Forty one point twenty five million dollar extension he signed with the Falcons in two, thousand, seventeen that made him the highest paid running back in the Game Freeman is still twenty eight, and he still remains a noble name on the free agent market, nearly four months, after being released by Atlanta and they deal with the seahawks in late May appeared imminent, but talks fell through at the last minute, leading the seahawks decision to sign Carlos Hyde. Silver noted that the time that Freeman believed he was worth more than one year offer. That was on the table. He was set to make four million on the deal. Silver also reported shortly after the end of those talks that the six year veteran insisted he is still open. He still opened the sitting out in the next season. If his contract number is met, the buccaneers briefly expressed interest in June, prompting Freeman to tell the team via twitter that they could reach out to him directly. Of course, nothing materialized from that exchange, and with some team, still looking to add depth ahead of training camp, which is set to commercial or the commencement a few short weeks. It'll be interesting to see how things play out for Freeman now that he is without representation. So Rice I ask you as a former fan of devante Freeman. You still could be a fan, but he's definitely not part of your team anymore. How do you feel all of this is coming together for him? I mean this is something that you see happen sometimes with players and agents when you know a player hits the mark, and they're not getting sign sometimes. They feel like maybe eight, and that's keeping me from getting a dealer. Something like that. Maybe Navy. The reason why he turned down other deals because the agent told her her told her I mean told him to turn. Turn attorney down. So you see it all the time sometimes when you see players went new contracts, and it's taking forever, or they're trying to get a new a new job, a new team and it takes forever you'll see players cut ties with the aging. You know it's something that's GonNa. Be Interesting. You Know I. Remember, I WanNa say I forgot who it was. But. It was I. don't know if it was numb. Consumer I don't know if it was offered, hangs out. A who was there was one player. I don't know if you remember even who never had an agent. So when he signed a deal, he would be the to read through everything and go. She is only Neil everything like that. and. It was just interesting. Because obviously you know everybody has aged to do that. Where it was interesting, he actually took the time out to sit here and be like wow. I'm going to help negotiate my own deal. And etc, but I mean we don't know right now. How soon? Will get agent. I'm sure he had agents who are willing to be his. Agent because I mean, let's. He's like he's twenty eight, still young. I think monty could still play can still be an effective running back for a teen like honestly just depends on what role you need i. mean we were so he can run the ball, but he's also pass Catcher House backfield. You know he's a very loose in the open field, so it really is just one of those things where. It depends on. Who might just need a different change of pace back I would say. and. I'm sure when he gets himself a new age and I'm sure he's new agents going to do what he can to. Try to get him the money that he wants her close to, but also maybe try to get into a destination. That he made prefer to want to go as well and you know obviously, but the running back market kind of. Like I. Say kind of going through a dry spell. Everybody kind of has their for the most part. They're running backs. Even though you know obviously, we heard about. Zima, most are wanting a trade from the forty niners. Maybe that's a spot. He could go to I we. Heard about that, yeah! You know because of the plate with Kyle Shanahan. How does this year under college? And that's what he got the deal in the first place so? Maybe maybe that's a potential reunion potentially for them, or he could go to San Francisco, and then he could flourish in that college offers like he did in Atlanta and. That's that is a move. That would be very I would think interesting in from my point of view. Generally you. What are you thinking about filming on, you think. He will be trying to job. I think you'll find a job that he wants to right so. There's been. He wants to have multiple years on his deal and I don't think he understands just what position he's in. Let's keep in mind that. Regime most is the same age as him and. He was he is wasn't more hot commodity near the end the season than Devante Freeman was, and he's not even being sought after like that. He wants to change deal. He wants to be paid like running back and San Francisco is like. Now you all right, you just stay. And now he's asking for a trade I. Don't know where he's. GonNa get traded to, but it is an interesting thought process that he gets to leg if they do trade most than they get I, know a six round pick. Rounder. Of Out of it and. You know they have some cap. They could go sign up for a one year deal. If he decides to say you know what I don't have to have. The multiyear is I'll go. Try and play for a championship contender for one year and try to make a name for myself again back on the market next year and I get to go play with the having Coleman again and a system that is heavily predicated on running back success, even though they're running back room is a little bit crowded right now with having Coleman and they have Jeremy Mckinnon back from injury, so there's a little bit. Less. Room to speak success. Win The running back. Route? Idea like the identity but. You know devante Freeman has a set of skills that I. don't think Kevin Coleman Jerem McKinnon really have he's a really good pass catcher out the backfield. He's shifty still. In Open space still think he's one of the better backs in the League at trying to make people miss. He's just hasn't been healthy all the time, so. That might be another cause for concern why people don't want to give them a year deal because if he's not healthy, then you kind of just sitting on money as with the Falcons kind of did for two years after he signed the deal, so. I can see why people are of hesitant on. Going after cream, and especially not giving him a multi year deal or anything like that. Let's keep in mind the hottest. I guess free agent. On the list before two weeks ago with Cam Newton, he signed a one year. Deal that to be honest seems a little bit cheap comparative to what we thought. He would be able to get when I was a free agent. Would I be wrong in saying that? I think that's pretty accurate statement. I think that's pretty accurate statement. So. I have to assume that devante Freeman has to see the writing on the wall. It's the same thing with. David, clowney. is going to be I. Think Seattle still has money available to try and. Convince him to come back, but I don't know where Jamie or on thinking of going, but I have to assume it's not gonNA. Be a multi year deal anymore because of the climate that we're currently in. Yeah definitely definitely. and. You know! All these deals all of these players are still in the market is. There's still some good free agents still out there on the market right now. There's not like this is. Dried up and there no talent just teams like the sometimes see what they have, and I think that's what makes this Kobe. Situation More complicated them. Because usually by now you could go not as many camps and everything, and you can kind of see okay. This is what it's looking like. We might need to think about grading this musician. Okay, let's look into free Seabrook's. Literally you don't have now worked with any of your players, and you don't know who who's in good shape. Who can play? Where do you need approval? You work any of that. You won't know to a training camp. And then. You know it's like okay. We already got a training camp roster. Do I just cut a guy because we need to bring another guy. What do we do to wait 'til after training camp in a preseason, make those adjusted I mean it's one of those things is going to be very interesting to see to me how they do. Remember about you all the rookies. These rookies have not worked with any their coaches outside of the virtual workouts. They have not worked with them in person. And you never know if that could hinder them, so you're like okay. My need ranks winning. I mean. There's plenty like I said. Notable free agencies notable free agents out there. It's just a matter of. Religious figuring out okay, the injury happens you. Don't pick someone up at maybe there's position that we're seeing campus, not playing well. We need pick someone up and. Go from there if you're an NFL team, the most part. Right. So speaking of. Movements transactions we have to talk about the the biggest one that's been in the NFL news cycle for the last couple of weeks. That is the Jamal Adams trait requests. Lamy on bell lays in on his idea of how that is going. He says he thinks that he wants to be with the jet as in. Jamal Adams and he thinks he just wants to get paid. Bell said during an interview on Friday with highs, ninety seven in New York per espn. I think he's in the same situation. I was in three years ago. He's a young player. He's been. The top of the game is playing. High level in feels like Dang I just WANNA get compensated. Of course you know the situation referring to was. His well documented twenty eighteen dispute with his former employer in Pittsburgh and after the franchise tag placed on him for a second straight year bill, one of the League's best running backs at the time refused society, tender, believing undermined his talents to his credit bill was a multi time, all pro, all pro selection by the end of age or end of his age, twenty five season and two thousand seventeen. It was worth noting though that the apprehension sign him long-term good have come from a few nagging injuries. He had to dealt with during his time there nevertheless. Bells! Holdout lasted from March to late fall when he did not sign the tag by November thirteenth and he already missed nine games in his decision cost him the rest of the twenty eighteen season effectively ending his five-year run with the steelers, he signed a lucrative deal with New York as a free agent, following March so despite the parallels he sees and Adam's issue with Jesse thinks in hopes that the team will hold on to the disgruntled defensive back. He says me personally. I hope he doesn't get traded. But I don't think he'll get traded. I! Do think you'll be playing with the jets. That's just me personally I. Don't think he's going to get traded. Honestly, why would you trade him? I wouldn't. So, clearly lady on wants his boy back, and he just wants him to see him get his money and the jets to find a way to keep him around because if they trade brought them all atoms away. What more do the just really have because they don't have a lot going for him right now? Yeah definitely, and I mean you are. We Make Stadium? He's the best player in the have rosty. So go. Yeah, no question. He's the best player they have on the roster. So. It do wouldn't make sense Joe Douglas GM keeps saying they WANNA sign. Him finished just like okay, but are you really try next time? Assign them. We don't need another deck situation. Where Jerry Jones say we sign. He's going to get sign and we're still waiting for him because I. We need to make you the money. Or. You need to let them go. You know and I think. Listen to Jetson. Position is organization to be making demands. Listen. A lot of people want to play for you anyway. Because of the success of your franchise in function. Don't WANNA to make players. It's frontal gumshoe. Jamal is talking to a lot of other players in this league. Talk about a knock. Come here and let's not forget also. Adam gay a very big part because Adam, gates is not liked by a lot of star players Jamal. said he does not like him. And that's one of the reasons why it must be trading like we all know about. His leash will leave you on bill in. MIAMI. Adam Gates did not get along with Jarvis Landry and some of the stars there so gaze could be the reason why the jets are going through what they're going through right now. Yeah I. Don't know what the thing about. Adam Gates is man I think eventually something's GonNa come out to someone's GonNa Talk. Right now hasn't been documented much on what exactly why? Players don't get along with him or why? He doesn't get along with some of these star players. But it seems to be his Mo that star players do not particularly like Adam grace at all, and it's. Showing is ugly head again that. Before it was lady on. He said that he didn't even want me on their in a press conference and Now. It's Jamal Adams is trying to find his way out, and he's one of one of the many reasons why he may want to go, not just not getting paid, but he doesn't. WanNa play on Adam Gates either but we're GONNA. Take another break here. We're GONNA to come back talking about the PAC twelve, the big ten, canceling non conference games, and we're GONNA get a little bit into free agent. I'm sorry. Get a little bit into the more deadlines as far as franchise tags GMC. Check out this show built around the women of MMA from the UFC to the extreme case fighting. We got the fights. Cover is saying it's the golden state media concepts women's MMA podcast. The latest news of upcoming discussions of previous maps join us as we talked to about the biggest names in women's mixed martial arts past present and future. When it's the women's fight game, you know where to listen to the golden state media concepts limits MMA podcast. Okay GSM see football nation. We are back me and Bryce again, and we're going to start off the last segment talking about. Deadlines as Their short time remaining for long term contracts with the deadline for franchise tag players to work out. long-term deals is now less than a week away. As Wednesday at four PM Eastern Standard Time draws near that is the deadline for any club that designated a franchise player to sign, said player to a multi year contract, following Wednesday tag player cannot signed an extension until after the final game upcoming regular season, and thus far of the fourteen players tag ten have signed their tenders and none have agreed to long term contracts so. With the economic uncertainty, due to unpredictable future amid the COVID, nineteen pandemic NFL insider Ian. rapoport reported Friday that it appears as if several will be playing on their one year deals including Tampa Bay Edge Shaq, Barrett. Washington Guard bread and sheriff in Jacksonville Pass, rusher, Nick In jock, who so? Those who are remaining to sign their tags are Djakou Denver Safety Justin Simmons Cincinnati Wide Receiver Green, and Chiefs Defensive Lineman Chris Jones. We talked about earlier, so the players who have signed their franchise tender is deck press got of course for thirty one million dollars temp Tennessee's Derrick Henry for ten million Hunter Henry sign through ten point six. Joe Sunni in New England sign fourteen point eight for his franchise tenure Washington. Brennan Sarah Sign Fifteen million. Leonard Williams scientists sixteen million in New York Baltimore's Matthew June signed for sixteen point eight Pittsburgh Buzzed depre- signed for fifteen point eight, and Minnesota's Anthony Harrison for eleven point four so. Of the franchise fourteen, each of them had their own story, but as a whole few seemed destined for long-term signings, many seem to have some contention with the tag and lease who are filling filing grievances regarding the position that they were designated ad so. Barrett. Scientists Tinder on Friday, but likewise filed a grievance as he believes he should be designated as defensive end rather than the linebacker. steelers Standout Bud DuPrey inks tender back in April twenty third, but follow bears lead grievance as he looks as a defensive end share compared to a linebackers, linebackers projected twenty twenty salaried stands at fifteen point eight million while defensive ends command, seventeen point eight million is a situation Baltimore's Matheu Juden navigate with the Ravens making a contractual contra compromise it. Point eight per Ian Rapoport so. That's all that. We have on tenders and we won't know until about a week or so with all this is going to. Work out and shake out too, but. What you think is GonNa. Happen with some of these deals, you think some of these guys are going to get long-term deals. Well I I always think when you get close to the deadline, you know obviously teams and and the players WanNa. Get these deals done. And I think you'll have maybe about one or two this year. That probably could be worked out we don't know who, but actually you know. There's teams are currently talking to their agents right now. They're discussing some language. No you could have the team in already. Has the numbers said they're just trying to get? The language hashed out I mean. In sign the line when he gets closer to that deadline obviously. You know wants to delight passes. You can't sign a long term extinction season. I believe so. It's definitely. Going to be interesting to see. Obviously Grievances General I think they need to overhaul that entire system in have. Have I will call it edge player solar, regardless of your defense, been or outside linebacker in a three four usually considered age age players. Instead of trying to define as a linebacker or defensive end. You know it's Kinda like. It's not the same, but it is kind of like back with y'all Jimmy Graham was shining on a wide receiver, didn't a tight end, because he would obviously get more money as a wide receiver, so you know obviously. Know, the when you have those very versatile players, they're going to always want to be classified as the position that gets paid the most it then sometimes you know. Teams are GONNA WANNA. Clarify his position. who gets paid less, so you know we'll have to see what those, but I think overall. You might see about winners. Who deals probably get done around that time, and it probably won't be anything big I don't think the all I honestly I don't believe that. Can Cowboys reach a deal so I? Don't think it'll be that one for the, but we'll see who is mainly Derrick Henry and the titans, but we don't know they might just keep on the franchise tag. We'll have to. We'll just have to keep an eye out. All right well. Are. You been keeping up with college news man 'cause. You Know I. Do the College Football Podcast? I have no choice but to keep up. But how are you on a college front? Have you been paying? Attention would be the biggest news football. The Universe is going on. Yeah Man I've been paying attention. I I know that PAC twelve king. Agreed to go to a whole conference schedule. Scheduling my right. Yes, so there are no longer. Playing Non Conference Games and that. Affects so many different parts to the FBI? and is very likely that more conferences will follow the same ideology in the same thought process like the ACC probably going to do it the. He said that they are going to make an announcement at some point in the upcoming week, but they haven't explicitly said they are going to follow playing. Non Conference are not to play their non conference games, but. As we've already seen right the big twelve. Basically isn't going to get some of their games. We already have a few marquis. Games already known it's GonNa Happen, so you'll see won't play Alabama right? We won't get notre, dame vs Stanford. Or I believe you see. You Know Ohio say doesn't get to play their big non conference, Games. Against Oregon I believe they. There's so many games that non-conference. Make so much money from so not just thinking about the smaller schools, the schools that basically. Do Buying Games. To make money from the bigger schools, so that way they can keep their budgets of flow and basically survive the next the next year, and they do a lot of buying games, so for example to lane used to do a lot of buying games, but this year they did not, and they're in a position where they don't have to worry about playing non conference games, because they don't have any under scheduled this year, but a lot of their contemporaries at their level have a lot of buying games or had a lot of buying games now are probably in jeopardy of not having and is just another. You know scratching the whole. Lining of this whole college football season there's just so much uncertainty and the domino's just keep falling so the PAC twelve who aren't the biggest moneymakers in the power. Five of course, said not playing any non conference games, because if you look at the state of California, if you look at the state on the west coast, things are not going well and makes a lot of sense. As you know the. About a few weeks ago after a month of saying that they're going to have a regular fall semester, so to speak, or they're going to bring students back a lot of California institutions said that they are not going to bring students back in. They're going to go strictly to online in the fall, and that already has its own issues. Because how can you possibly? Bring football players back. Your student athletes apparently. But not bring back the students so then it brings it up the whole debate again. If you are going to make student athletes, particularly football players come back. To campus place for that's the only reason why they're coming back. Not because because you don't treat any other student like this, right? You are bringing these football players back. That's has no longer in argument. To make saying that. You know they're student athletes second. Because you're bringing them back only to make money and to make as much money as possible before this thing goes off the rails, and trying to salvage one year of your of institutions, losing out right, so if you depend on these players so much to where. Some universities are trying to make them sign waivers or What do they call it? A. Creeds. But. Call and it's like it's like these contracts. Pleasures, they're not. Yeah you're not liable if something happens if you're trying to make. Kids who don't get any money from this to sign pledges and basically waivers so that the university isn't liable for them getting cove in nineteen the play. Something isn't right here like this doesn't make. Any sense for athletes get compensated, and this is why they're fighting for name, image and likeness with at this point, it may need to be more than that because you are essentially foregoing all. All rights say that. Hey, we give them education. They're the same as every other student because they're not. You're not treating them the same as every other student. You're forcing them essentially to you're forcing their hand to choose to play, and if they don't play, you don't know how things could work out. Do they lose their scholarships? Do they lose their spot on the team? do they lose a year of eligibility? What how does even work around and? How does this fit the player in any aspect because there's no monetary benefit, we already knew that. So. This is all just to. Make to make as much money as you possibly can in the worst predicament that we've ever seen. In the last I, don't know twenty something years. This is really really really bad for all aspects of sports, not just professional, but college to. As we see Stanford, they had to cut eleven sports programs. They had thirty six. Before this and they had to cut eleven of them. After the twenty, twenty, twenty twenty one season, they are no longer going to have eleven. Of sports programs, and they're not the biggest ones. In the catalog right, but the fact they had to cut eleven just showcases. Were the what the environment is, and this is Stanford right and Stanford is known more for education than their athletics. They had such a driver excellence in everything. They do attitude that they're winning for their overall sports. Participation years like for years and they still might win this year. But. For them to eleven sports and they're that big. I'd have to imagine smaller. Schools are going to be doing similar moves in. It's not going to be pretty. It's A. Is definitely a process. It's definitely something that each. You know. The Leagues have to come together and figure out what's best. Obviously, we talked about last time. We were together on the show about spring football. And obviously hoping that the National Junior College Association is vote I believe. They believe owning yesterday on Day to. Put their season spring. Which obviously I think they could do? Obviously. It's a smaller league, so there's not as much I. Guess Reputations on the line. Where obviously a bigger than you like. If yes, obviously, it's a little more complex. and. Honestly. This is a good first step just because if you do all conference. In terms of the actual conferences. It keeps a bubble. You could say in a way. I think about it like they about most SEC schools. Literally you know we're going to be either. Florida South Carolina. Georgia Alabama. Tennessee Kentucky and I mean obviously you. Teams are like Kinda out there like. Texas ENA. But outside of that, you're pretty much sticking to the places around. You ACC same way. You know you're not. You're not taken at two thousand Mile Road. West Coast like you said even though it be neutral site between Alabama USC imagine. They say we're going to USC. During this time you WanNa have your players traveling all the way to a a state that has a good number of buyers cases in vice versa you, you traveled play. Tina four to potentially is the same thing and so. L You can really do is just try to to limit as much as you possibly can. In terms of things, they will be doing going out interacting in having all types of things that they usually would have to do during the season. Obviously, the student athlete the College Athlete, I'm sure it can be also a little bit lonely like like okay. Obviously young people in these college towns, these areas that live there based in apartments and stuff like that. Of On campus if they decided to not bring them back, it's like losing the one here and you just have the students you know. The football players the athletes just doing. They're saying things and they. We don't even know when they get back. How much restrictions are going to be put on by the coaching staffs? You know what I'm saying before. It was just like. Hey, don't do anything that Miss Your eligibility your best you play now it's like. I, we might forbid you can go into parties. Knock Biju for going out there certain time. We might need to monitor you at all times. So things could change so like you said. These players are going through all this and they're not even day to. This. You know in listen. Yes, they are younger. They got cold leap, and obviously you say your say they're not as as much at risk, and so it's something that you could take a chance on. But why would you WANNA? Put Kids in that position in the first place. That's one of the basic questions as well so it's something that every conference since Dylan suitable allows the group of our five. To work as their own individual. Like parts of the NC Double A. and then you know eventually instantly sometimes comes together on big decisions. We'll see we each conference. This is to do as you seem to be. Ten impacts decide to do SEC commissioner said he's a little worried. He's big concern. We'll have to see what happens to the ACC and big twelve as well. Exactly, but we're going to wrap up the show on that note. Bryce good job the day man. We've another one down. And we are going to continue on making some great content here, so thank you all for listening to the GMC football podcast today I. Encourage everyone to go review the podcast, and whatever platform you to listen to us. Five stars, five stars, every bit helps and another reminder to follow our social media, facebook and twitter at GMC football. All right hope, you all have a great day, continue to do great things. Stay safe out there and we'll be back next week. You've been listening to the golden state media concepts football podcast part of the golden state media concepts podcast network. You can find this show and others like it at www dot gs. MC PODCASTS DOT COM. 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Quick Jam #12: The Not Good, The Bad & The Pressers

Bleeding Green Nation

06:09 min | 5 d ago

Quick Jam #12: The Not Good, The Bad & The Pressers

"Support for this podcast comes from. Microsoft. Teams. Now, there are more ways to be a team with Microsoft teams bring everyone together in a new virtual room collaborate live building ideas on the same page and see more of your team on screen at once learn more at Microsoft Dot com slash teams. Did you. Miss Me. Did you miss the J. J. D.? While I'm here. So let's get involved I am Michael. Kissed. This is quick jam episode, Twelve Big News. Small portions and we've got some Eagles News and press conferences to talk about this morning. So some Expresso, let's get it going I stop. It's been a pretty depressing week for the Eagles after the thirty seven to nineteen loss to the rams in their home opener and I'm not here to sugarcoat anything. So in Doug, Peterson makes an excuse. Like the one, you're about to hear I. got a kick back a little bit. This is what he said to reporters on Monday about Carson Wentz. His early season struggles. You know. I. Can I guess you can point point to a lot of different things missing not as not having all the all the necessary maybe Webster Training Camp Missing preseason games whatever it might be the timing of of things that we do in the passing game And just you know just just missing these throws their throws that. He typically would catch her or throw, and then it's you know a little bit too on the receiver sometimes receivers need to. Make the catches well so as things that we got to continue to work so do the eagles have different off season than everybody else are quarterbacks younger and less experienced than whence having success cuyler, Murray, Joe, Borough Lamar Mahomes Josh Allen Justin Herbert didn't know he was starting for the charters until ten minutes before the game and he had a better game went. So in short stop treating us like we're suckers doug, it's getting old the team is dead last offensive Devi. Away, Purple Ball outsiders dead last offensively the worst offense in the league. I'm NAS. Now, if you're looking for a better answer to a question from reporters, I've looked defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz look. You're upset with them. I'm upset with them. We'll talk about that more in a second, but here's some accountability regarding the defensive failures on Sunday. Well, what happened on the field was was I had a poor game plan. We had very simple game plan. You guys noted the rams use a lot of. Tempos out of their huddle in a lot of different motions and things like that, and the whole sort of theme was to try to make it as simple as we could, and we've had success with that in the past in an effort to do that, our show created a lot of conflict. With what the guys were were doing. And gave them a lot of stuff to look at. And what I thought would make it easier. Didn't make it easier made it harder and looking back on it. I. Mean I came right in after the game and watch a watch watch the tape. I really should have had a more complex game plan and it sounds it sounds funny to talk about. But a more complex game plan would've narrowed. The focus of each individual player would made it more difficult to execute, but it would've narrowed the focus and I. I think that you know we could have done that we went to that after about three series we made a low rally, but it was it was too late. And I, take that on myself. It's my job to put the players in good positions and particularly in the first three series I didn't do a good enough job at doing that. So I give Jimbo. Some for that. Now, let's tear that down. Right. The defense that Jimbo schemes that Jimbo calls that Jimbo built that Jimbo has tremendous influence over in terms of the personnel, decisions and roster construction that defense is a dud thirty, two points. Allowed on average through the first two games in the season, and it's stacked with big time contracts can the defense get right against Joe? Borough and the Cincinnati bengals stay tuned to find out on this episode of argue coordinating like a fifth grader. It's been about three minutes and we haven't talked about an eagles injury yet but you knew that could only lasts a long my parents who negative I feel like I'm being too negative but. It Sucks Isaac see a Malu is hurt and it's hard to say that with a smile as such. Amal has been placed on short term injured reserve with a knee injury that he suffered on Sunday, which means you'll be out for at least three weeks in his absence. It was Matt prior coming in at left guard and it looks like it'll stay that way prior has a chance to earn some burn after losing the competition with. Nate big for the right guard spot. Now, what happens if there's another injury on the offensive line is at Jordan my lot as the backflip tackle and Jack Driscoll backing up. Blaine. Johnson at right tackle. Hopefully, we don't have to find out and turns of the interior depth. It is now Suo Beta and John Brown who would see the field. If one of the interior linemen go down in other news, it was reported Monday that free. Agent running back Devante Freeman visited the eagles over the weekend, and obviously as you're hearing this on Wednesday, you know that he left without a contract he then visited the New York giants who are looking for a running back after the unfortunate ACL tear for saquon Barkley and it was reported on Tuesday that the giants do intend to sign Freeman. He still has to pass a physical but for now, it's looking like a done deal is. A great opportunity for Freeman and a downgrade but a smart signing for New York or hoping that Freeman is back healthy and can show up what made him a top ten back back in two thousand, sixteen plenty of content coming your way on the speed as we move on from the rams debacle and prepare yourself. What hopefully is a get right game against Cincinnati. Make sure you're subscribed and leaving five stars. Special shouts to Black Steve. As our chef, Vermont birds be the G. G. R. Louis H Arthur hells rig jake's wash and Brandon Brooks for the written five star reviews on Apple podcasts and a big thumbs down to Hollis. Thompson. Bud Stop spamming the reviews and take a walk. But I appreciate the advice that I will absolutely not take into consideration that does it for quick jam. Hopefully you enjoyed and even if you didn't go dominate and add your yourselves a day. G.

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The Falcoholic Crossfire Podcast: 2018 Week 3

The Falcoholic

30:57 min | 2 years ago

The Falcoholic Crossfire Podcast: 2018 Week 3

"Welcome to the inaugural episode of the alcohol at crossfire. Our argumentative podcast focused on ruthlessly debating questions about the falcons in the NFL. I am your moderator, David Walker, d-w. You guys know me from the alcohol podcast and joining me today, our two combatants. The first, you know her very well. She is my co host on the falcons at podcast. She has one million nicknames at this point. I'm speaking, of course none other than Gina amount online Thomas gene. And how are you doing great and chambers going to ruin your life today? Oh boy. Here we go. You cannot ruin my life anywheres than I have already done it. Sister. I'm gonna bring my a. game. Gene is already conveyed who are other combatant is in this contest in his none other than the fiery fiery takes on the falcons. And of course we're talking about Matt chambers, Matt. How're you doing man? I'm just ready to show gene what's up. I mean, this isn't this isn't Twitter. You don't have anyone come to help you out. It's just. In many one on one. Oh. All right. That's how this is gonna go. Fantastic. All right. So here are the rules of alcoholic crossfire very simple. We will have a selection of topics that will be either focused around the falcons or the NFL. In general, the two combatants have agreed ahead of time to the sides of the argument that they will take on this. Each side will have no more than ninety seconds to give their facts and data and whatever they wanna do to support their their standpoint. And of course, at the falcons dot com, we will have a poll. So for those of you listening win this podcast hits, you will be able to vote on who the winner of our very first crossfire episode was Gina or Matt. So with that said, let's get to the topics topic. Number one, remember ninety seconds. I will give you warning fifteen seconds and five seconds before your time runs out. Here's the topic is. Steve Sarkissian for real. Have we seen a real turnaround in this falcons offense after game to the beatdown of the peril Carolina Panthers? Or is this yet another smokescreen. So arguing for the fact that this is something falcons fans can look forward to. This is the real deal, Matt chambers on my Mark. You can start Matt was taking the opposite position. No. Turkeys for real. You weren't just is. The moderator, I've got the notes, we got, we gotta go to the monitor. I have the easy position are more. Dill, your worst chambers. Good luck. Ninety seconds some arc, Matt, make your point. All right. To start off, I didn't realize it was going to be a poll. So I apologize to every reader potentially in kind to in the comments at one time or the other that was that was not me. I've spent some time reflecting in that was that was all very wrong a million. I'm sorry if I if I band you, I don't know if you. Vote or not. If I have been you a new Campo. And we'll work on something, but back to back to Sarkisian I'm actually very excited to see what he has in store for the rest of this season. I like so the gaming Carolina Panthers, which by the way, eight theory, good defense. I saw a ton of stuff we saw back in twenty sixteen sixty. Yeah, these is your kind of passing back. You know, we really saw him. You allies ING having Coleman for the first time. Basically since he's been here like just correctly utilizing Coleman. A lot free snap motion that was ages just stable of Kyle Shanahan. It helps Matt Ryan figure out what's defense VM kind of figuring it out. It's it's really kind of expanded on like his Ian knowing fifteen seconds. Cer- kissing really knowing kind of the strengths of his players. You've seen a lot of crossing routes, what great something's really hard to defend in. If you're like, you're probably just some hater. There we go. Gina, you heard his arguments. He got his ninety seconds. I heard his air quote arguments, but here's the thing. This was the twentieth game that he has been in charge of this offense. And so we're talking about a very small sample size of various mall sample size. And yes. Yes, it's a scientific argument. Like if we're looking at the falcons offense as a whole under the leadership of Steve Sarkissian, you've got one game where the offense looked back to its two thousand sixteen Warri, and then you have nineteen games where they look like actual bullshit. And so I thing is it's it's a fluke. It's got to be a fluke. I mean, statistics say that that's not the real falcons offense and yes, did Sark spread the ball around in a way that actually made sense for once in his life? Yes, he did, but it was once in his life. I'm we're talking about nineteen other gains where we were like, why are you zoning on Julio and not throwing the ball, anybody else Julio's in quadruple coverage. And he can't score in the red zone because he's blanketed by defenders and itchy. And so my thing is it's one gay. And I don't think that we can pin our hopes on one game. I cannot until I see this consistently from shark, I cannot buy it. Timer. All right there. It is folks if you're listening in keep mind of these two two viewpoints and who you thought did the best job and. Does not get you extra points. That's actually probably the Duchesne points. But the thing is. Foaming enough. You go past your time and you just as an attorney. You should know when I rest my case, I rest my case. The rest of your case. Disagree case. I certainly didn't see argue arguments coming from these two. Yeah. Moving forward topic. Number two, this one is going to branch out a little bit, and we're going to talk about the NFC Jimmy. You're gonna start this one off for us, which NFC team will finish the season with the best record. Make your case while this is probably gonna sound a little, but are given that I just don't all overseas archaic. Then I'm probably learned as life, but I'm going to save the Atlanta Falcons for a number of reasons. They are stacked with talent. And so Matt Ryan, two thousand sixteen VP very talented. He's got an arsenal of weapons has disposal. He's got Julio Jones, probably a top to our top to receiver and the league Calvin Ridley who really had a coming out party against the Panthers last week in Steve's Arkins aberration game, but he actually well. Austin Hooper who should becoming into his own. You know, you've got when he is healthy devante Freeman and then have Coleman in the backfield. You just have such a talented offense. And so I think looking at the way some of these other teams of played like the eagles shirt neck foles than started, but Carson Wentz gonna come back and be rusty the Rams they have a ton of talent, but they have very young and it's fair is order back the Vikings. They had a ton of turnover at the like in the coaching staff. And so I think that's going to make a difference than so. I think that when you look at it objectively and look at the way that teams like the Panthers and the saints are playing, I think it's going to be the falcons. I really do think it's going to be the falcons. I still going to be. No other way to win the argument other than to say your point three consecutive times. For a lot of people on going to adopt that as my method. Just newer tentative. Tell the people the same thing over and over until they believe it. That's my approach. It works for a lot of people leave that one lone chambers. You've heard her argument for the falcons and if c team with the best record make your case now? No, Jenna. Am I saying this right. Okay. You cannot sweep the Tampa Bay bucks under the rug. Like your urban Meyer right now. The books have the most points in the entire NFC after two games or Ryan Fitzpatrick magic fits magic, seventy five points into incomes. These are this is really kind of like a, I don't know exactly how I want to call this, but the whole coaching staff is trying to keep their job here and they are. They're on killing it. The books are very fun to watch. And I mean, I don't even know if I need to like pointed their success. They beat the eagles inland did not the buccaneers exit blue eagles pretty awesome. I mean on saying is some sort of consistency in my arguments I can't. I mean, I'm not gonna say the falcons are gonna win the NFC, but also say, are kissing trash is those are. Even up. Maybe they have a healthy phones, it onto Freeman, I don't. I don't remember ever heavy developed him even healthy. It's been, I don't know. I, I was still like I was still in high school last time about Freeman speech. You can't rely on when the bucks. The wide receiver fits magic is putting together this year, but there we go. I need a five second rebuttal I need a five bottle. During my junior grit, ten seconds seconds. My ten second rebuttal is this Mike Smith and cutter jets. Irrelevant. How many times we seen Mike Smith. A position actually makes noise in the playoffs. And then all of a sudden that evaporates, by the way Ryan fits magic is spectacular. He is not the starter. It's Janus Winston, I rest Mike ace. Like I don't know, twenty twelve. You want to want to ace. A. To argue that what they're gonna do in the playoffs because I said, hey, there finishing person, NFC come come. The playoffs. We're probably Mike Smith disaster. So. Fair enough. All accept it. All right. We're gonna table that topic. Two or getting a little feisty. That's the point. That's the point the point, but we're gonna move on the topic number three. Who started the last one, do you? All right, Matt, you're gonna start this one who will finish the falcon season with more rushing yards. Tevin Coleman or devante Freeman, you have chosen to say, Tevin Coleman will do it make your case. This is the easiest case for remained. Number one. Devante Freeman is on my fantasy team that is a recipe for disaster. Devante Freeman got like six carries. You might have got me like, I don't know, five, six points or something. Boom, he's gone. He's down. We don't really have an idea like the Dan clean is like I dunno looking pretty good. That's what usually says before someone ends up on into reserve. So I mean, he's definitely not playing the Sunday. Doesn't sound like he's playing anytime soon. I think tem Combet has the perfect opportunity to show everybody. Hey, somebody's paying me. I don't know, thirty forty million dollars next year. And I mean, just just look at what he did last week against Carolina. He just beat the shit out of the Panthers. It was some of those place he had. He had this one run where he. This defender who is haven't quite seen someone like stop so quickly in switch where he was going. I think this is really his coming out year in. He's gonna have anyone because the freemen just has constant the. I don't even need more time. Fifteenth via lawyer. Rest case. Healthy. I'm going to call you a liar. All right. Gina, you've taken the side that devante will finish when we're rushing yards. Make your case your bam, right? I bad. And here's why ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I present to. In fact, I present to you the fact that might esteemed colleague match chambers went to end the Anna for law school. And so I was with Matt. Just throwing that out there. I oughta you're taking up my time this again. Listen. Amac watching the draft on the falcons drafted seven Coleman and Matt lost his mind and listen, Matt doesn't get excited about anything, but he was buried excited about seven Coleman because he has Hoosier bias. That's what we can shock. This Tevin Coleman is very good. He is very good. This is not all a slight Coleman. However, devante Freeman is a special talent. He's so well-rounded as a receiver and a back, and we've already seen what he can do. He has been a fundamental part of this offensive success since Mike Smith. Finally let him play because of injuries. And so when the Monte comes back and this healthy, he's going to get the bulk of the workload. And that's just the way that it is. Dan Quinn is married to giving players snaps because of their salary, but he is going to give devante more opportunities because of salary. And because he was having her both so good. And so the Monte is going to win this battle easily. He is going to win the saddle easily. There we go. You to get a little feisty. Now in here. Hominum Hominum which goes well with Chilean rice. But I'm just saying some ad hominem here. All right. Oh, is she going. So I got. I. About devante being not not being injured all the time, and I just kinda face out here who's bias is really said he was great in I agree with you. That was your best point which is agreeing with me in everything else. He said. Granted, this agree, but Hemilae make you are wrong and I am rights. Do you. We may have to get some boxing gloves for the next dish in of the Philip crossbar. Topic. Number four, thank God. We're getting closer to the. We'll make it. Yes, two more laps. All right. Gene, we're gonna start. This one you've chosen the under in the under on the topic is will Matt Ryan exceed forty, seven hundred passing yards. This season forty, seven hundred obviously forty. Eight hundred is averaging right at three hundred dollars per game will Matt Ryan. Go about forty, seven hundred this year. Gina, you said no. Make your case the falcons because of how good they were last year because of the strength of the division. They have a really tough schedule this year. And so the strengthens offense is really being able to spread the ball around and you set up the past by establishing the run. And when you have a talented backfield like devante in heaven who went to end the Anna, so mad is very biased toward him, make sense to really get those sewing. And we saw ITO Smith really moving the ball to on the ground last week against the Panthers, the Monte sale. And so I think that they're going to. Rely on the run more, especially with those three guys who can really make things happen on the ground and Matt's not going to have to pass as much, which is really a beautiful thing. And so I think that because of that because of the defenses, they'll be facing. I just don't think that it's possible that Matt's going to get above forty, seven hundred yards. I think that he'll get close to it, but I don't think that he's going to surpass that, and that's okay. I don't think that's going to hold this team back from winning Dame's. I don't think it's a problem. I would like to see a more balanced offense. I think that we would all like to see more wins, and so it's it's a good situation, not a knock on Madda all, but also going back to the whole Sarkissian thing where I very strongly made a case against against Steve Sarkissian being the real deal. And you know, caution readers not to get too invested performance. I think that Matt goes for under forty, seven, and that's fine. We go. All right, Matt. She threw a few jabs at you buddy. So you're saying Matt Ryan. We'll go for at least forty, seven hundred yards. Make your case. I'm I'm sorry. I'm still blown away the disrespect for our franchise quarterback. I'm disgusted to have such a hater intermit- lease any with think Ryan gets reformed hundred, four thousand seven hundred yards if he went to a high. Oh, but that's impossible because all their quarterbacks. This fans are all the time I b. It's v Hieaux states announce in mechanical repair workshop, whatever. It's called. Are telling you about how Matt Ryan. It's gonna throw more than forty. Seven hundred yards. I mean he's done it in twenty twelve. He's in twenty. Seventeen. Sorry. Twenty sixty two. Exactly. Exactly. Thank you. My for me, he he's hit this with both of his previous coordinators. And right now, everything is falling in line for Ryan to build on what he's already done. Early this off season. He knows the offense. You have Calvin Ridley in there. Probably the second best tight end he's ever had to throw to. Everything's just really lining up for Matt Ryan, especially his injured defense. He's going to be throwing up or five thousand. You get to more seconds. Finisher case this my case, I kinda threw out there. I. Needle. Catch up. They're going to need to be scoring. Thirty plus points game and Matt, Ryan guy who can do it. He's shown e. n. he's gonna do with this year. All right. Jeanene final thoughts on that topic except for the fact that I win. No, I'm good. I one. Feel out of your sons. State thing to do. Me Ohio State. Final topic. This one's good when this lines up with some articles. We've seen this week at the falcons dot com. You guys check those out daily twins of new content every single day with a fabulous stable of writers. Bringing us some amazing content during the season. Please check out the site daily throughout the day as those articles land quite frequently. Now, one of those picks pass rusher, Vic Beasley, obviously off to a slow start. Gina, you're making the case that this season this season big Beasley will have at least if not more than eight secs. Again, we're talking about Vic Beasley, eight Amore sacks this season, Gina make your case. So here's the thing, Vic, basically led the league in sacks in two thousand sixteen. He had fifteen point five sacks that was more than Bonn. Miller that was more than Khalil math, like guys who are just. Dominant at the position. And so that year through the first three games, he really didn't do anything. And so I don't think that what we've seen so far this year from Vic as Representative of what he brings to the table. Vic is very talented. He has speed off the edge. He's very athletic. He can get to the quarterback, and I think that a key for that as having tack McKinley on there who can also bring pressure like it's double teens. And so last year we saw his sack total drop, but it's because he led the league in sacks in two thousand sixteen. So teams had was fine extra guys to him. The keep obey this year. Of course, tack is not healthy this week, but when Tak is on the field, they have to account for him to. And so I think that once tack, it's fully healthy and not fighting through groin injury, and we've seen tack can do like he was great against the Panthers. I think that teams are going to have to work. Worry about containing tack, which is going to open up opportunities for we know that that can get a dump. We know that he can get to the quarterback. We know that he has the drive in the fire to do it. And so I think that that's actually an easy call, Vic will have eight sacks this year. Matt, you've got the under. Make your case. All right. And the first off, I, I appreciate that you say we have a lot of talented writers at the Hollick David, but I'm a little mad that you didn't include are less talented writers such as myself. That's. And I'm not. I'm not happy about it in. All right. Let's let's get to this. Now. Jane will mention Vicki's twenty sixteen. I had to go check my calendar to find out what year it is because it is not twice as teen is also not twenty seventeen. It's almost twenty night and we haven't seen Vic Beasley with anything since not even since playoffs at twenty sixteen he fell off. Oh week thirteen or something he disorder stopped in. I mean, you know, she's right. He didn't do much in the first games which is literally the most consistent thing about his career ever in. We see him this year. He's not playing double teams. He's not planning. His might be planning. It's good tackles. I don't even remember the guy he played against a against Carolina. His name is. I don't know. Jim, maybe I don't know. It was some guy sign up the street literally on Tuesday, visa. Going to one on one with this guy is nothing. He's sucking out loud zero sacks against some undrafted off the street guy. He has no pass, rush moves. We're gonna be more than like four sacs at in this year. Putting Brooks read at this point. Wow, Brooks Reed named drop at the end. That is pretty vicious. It's pretty vicious chambers. Chambers breakf- has learned how to do spend move. So I mean there is that. So he has the least to pass, rush, moves twice as many as veasley has. All right. Here we are folks five topics. Five debates is now time for closing arguments. Genasense your co host and I have to deal with you every week. Let you start. You get one minute to let our listeners know why you believe you made the stronger arguments throughout this first crossfire podcast. Make your case. Chambers is in Terni. So he came in here and he tried to build a case against me, but everybody knows that attorneys are trash and chambers of essay. Stains of our sap. Okay. Amber said, just listen to me the voice of reason, and you know how to vote in the poll vote for me. That's all I have to say. I don't even need the full time to wreck chambers. It's that easy. Counselor. You have sixty seconds to make your rebuttal water twin. Make your case. Well, let's let's just go back in what JIMBO head to say through entire. I don't really want to call it an argument. I just wanna call it straight up stupid nonsense entire time. Talk about high ceilings. Was she out my Steve him. Played out of his mind like his. He was fantastic on Sunday gift. You should on JIMBO. Yes. He said, Matt, Ryan is not good enough to put forty seven hundred yards. JIMBO I dunno. I think scales to be honest with you is it was pretty boring in generally skated on the falcons. I, I don't appreciate it as a fan and I don't. I don't think voters predated old. So vote for somebody who loves the falcons and loves America's opposed to someone. He draped himself in the flag. The blue. That was a low blow. My friend. I was expecting, but honestly, I probably should have expected that. For being on this. None of this is the prize, really. We're going to be this this. We're going to edit this podcast down into like four minutes, so. I'm just sticking the explicit tag on it like we do every other podcasts. So this is not safe for work friends. All right. Gina, Matt, thank you for being the first to debate on the falcons crossfire very quickly. Gina tell the listeners can find you. You can find me on Twitter at Gina. Thomas, I am probably tweeting about the Ohio State buckeyes or the falcons or tweeting pictures of my dog. That's what you have to look forward to. You can also find me at felt the hell life. I do more editing than writing these days, but I do some writing and it's fun. I like writing about the steam. They're great. Regardless of what my opponent would have you believe. Council chambers till the listeners can find you. You can find me on colic, Matt. I am of course. Oh one of the editors editors on the federal Hollick. So if there is a pole I find out who voted for who. And so. Anything it'll after that. Just letting everyone know. I know I know who you are and I can ban. Just with sent me a message unbanned you and I will that were threatening their listeners. The readers. Very fair, always fair, love and alcohol across fire. VR this slogan. Slogan. KOMO is good for those. Fell Kahal at crossfire. We're gonna keep that one. Yes, absolutely. So for Gina, Madeline, Thomas Matt hot takes chambers. This is Dave walk were thank you guys for tuning into this very first Falco hall at crossfire. Favorite guys send us your feedback lists, not think about it. Any ideas you may have topics you wanna see debated in the near future. We plan to crank these out during the season as well and guys. Thank you for listening. We'll talk with the next time. We plan to crank these out during the season as well and guys. Thank you for listening. We'll talk with the next time.

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'Valentine's Views' podcast: 49ers-Giants preview

Big Blue View

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'Valentine's Views' podcast: 49ers-Giants preview

"Podcast listeners, we are amazing avenue, the espy nation New York mets site I'm Chris McShane, and every week, Brian Salvator and I discussed the current state of the mets Automated Avenue Audio. The show we try to look at the mets from a somewhat logical point of view and not get too deep into panic city. We also answer your emails, give weekly music recommendations and try not to get too frustrated with the team. You can find the show on Apple podcasts on stitcher on spotify wherever you get your podcasts and let's go mets. Hello giants fans, and welcome to a new edition of the Valentine's US podcast here on Big Blue Radio part of your SP nation family of podcasts I'm your host Ed Valentine of Big Blue View and today's show is coming to you on Friday September twenty fifth as your own to giants get ready to host the defending NFC champion San Francisco Forty niners on Sunday at metlife stadium. Another difficult game against the top tier opponent for the giants. So another difficult task for for the fighting Joe Judges as they try to get the first victory of the Joe, Judge Era as head coach of the giants won't be an easy task giants are I believe a four point underdog at least that's what the spread was the last time I looked at it. A couple of things for you today will be we'll have a little bit of audio for you. A little bit later in the show from new giants running back devante Freeman signed this week to try to help mitigate the the loss of star running back. saquon Barkley will also play for you a an interview that I did with former NFL cornerback and current host of of a podcast called believe in forty niners on the believe podcast network Eric Davis, very informative interview as we broke down a lot of things about the game talked about a few of the intriguing giants players as well. So stay tuned for. For both of those things for the freemen audio and Davis interview a little bit later in the show thought, we would talk a little bit first about the Devante Freeman signing that obviously is the big news of the week giants going out and getting a highly productive veteran running back you know to to help in re try to replace Saquon Barkley as the giants try to to construct a competent offense without their best player. Listen you know my take on the freemen signing is this is a move that I like very much. You Know Freeman is twenty eight years old. There is the distinct possibility that he may not be the player that he was. You know a couple of years ago. He's a two time pro bowl running back. Obviously you coming off last year, which was his sixth year in the NFL had a career low in yards per carry may not be the dynamic player that he once was, but Freeman is still a quality player. Die Who's used to carrying a heavy workload a guy who has the reputation of being a good runner being a guy who can pass protect being very useful backfield as well can do a lot of things in in one of the points that I wanted to make into in the in terms of the freemen signing well, two points I wanNA make first of all it's very inexpensive deal for the giants. It's really not that above you know league minimum for a veteran on a per game basis. Most of his one year three, million dollar contract is in playing time and performance incentives so. If he reaches those numbers you know in playing time carries you know in making a pro bowl, those kinds of things if he reaches those things, that's good thing for the giants because. Then he's giving them performance. He's giving them production that they can really really need, and another point that I wanted to raise here is that signing a veteran like devante Freeman here. Is Not taking snaps away from a young developing up and coming player. The giants have a lot of those kinds of players you know dotting the roster all across the roster as a matter of fact, but one place where they don't have anyone like that is at running back, they have a veteran in Dion Lewis. Then they have Wayne Golman and I know that people get attached to Golman he's a a former giants draft pick he's in his fourth year he had a decent season as a rookie back in. Two thousand and seventeen. But really Goldman is a guy who didn't get much opportunity during the Pat Shurmur era. You know he was inactive last week for the giants the week the Barclay got hurt. Goldman really is just a guy and I hate to use that term. You know when when we talk about NFL players but he's an adequate average running back at best there's nothing special about Wayne Gaughman as an NFL player he's in his fourth season in the NFL, my gas at this point is that Goldman probably is not a giant twenty twenty one. You know that's jumping way ahead but gelman is not exactly a young up and coming player who needs snaps to to develop or improve. Hope that Goeman in whatever opportunities he gets you in Barclay's absence I hope he does well I. Hope that that he produces that that his play you know more or less forces the giants to put him on the field a little bit more often but he's not exactly a first or second year up and coming player who has to have snaps at this point to get better he's not exactly a guy who's going to be part of their future. I just don't look at him as A. As what you would call an upset coming player. So devante Freeman is not going to be you know quote unquote holding back wing Allman or taking snaps away from from a guy who who should be you know developing and could be part of the giants long-term future. What devante Freeman is is a giant for is really what you have to remember is it still all about the development of Daniel Jones Pence adding a running back like Devante Freeman Helps Daniel Jones development. It gives Jones another option in the backfield. It gives him a guy who. who were told as an experienced pass protector a guy who we've seen if you've watched falcons, Games over the years we've seen can be effective as both a runner and as a receiver. So the more weapons, the more options that you give the giants offense, the better it is for Daniel Jones. The better chance he has to continue to develop and become the kind of quarterback that the giants are going to need if they're going to be a winning football team down the line. So I have I have no problem at all with the freemen signing I like it very, very much. We'll see how much he gets on the field Sunday against the forty niners probably not going to be a whole lot. His first practice was Wednesday and it. It's hard to imagine that he will be that he's in good enough shape and that he'll know enough of the giants playbook to to be on the field for more than a handful of snaps for more than than some very specific packages that the giants might have in mind where they can where they can use him. All right giants fans. Let's do this right now let's play a couple of minutes of audio from Freeman talking to to New York media on Thursday. This liked to everyone is You know it's a lot of ball f you know a lot of. Games to be played Unfortunate and blessed to be on his team and. This is a young team and. I'm happy about the opportunity. And I just think you know there's a Lotta a Lotta growth for teen for myself and. I'm just here to help contribute as much as I could and. Be a part of this team and. You know just come in and. Do, do do my best and just. Help out these guys much as I could That's I think that's the main thing. I'm still I mean I feel like I have. I'm a I'm a football. Don't go nowhere. No, you just get older. And I feel like it's all up to you take care of your body you you keep maintenance on your body and You know you could be young's you WANNA be they know? This Agata WanNa come in and contribute as much as I could and work hard and. Gained these guys respect and trust and You know just what whatever I'm asked to do you know. Do it to the best of my building. And just continue to take advantage of the opportunity and. I think that's the most important thing. I just think a lot of situations didn't fit me and fit what I WANNA do and. You know what I had in some of my own personal goals are came and I still like I know us have a lot the tank and I just WanNa, go out and play football and a half are and this was a great opportunity at the right time and you know I just you know coming in trying to. Compete and you know work to get a job and just continue to get better. any opportunity I get I want to attribute it. Don't matter about the snaps. Is this when I get in there what I would opportunity you know, and that's what I wanNA. That's how I want you. Right. Now let's take a short break for a word from our sponsors here at SP nation. When we come back, I will be talking to former NFL player and current host of the believe in forty niners podcast Eric Davis. Support for this podcast comes from CDW HP. CDW, we. Get an unsecured laptop confront your company's data at risk making you a little paranoid I'm not paranoid. You're paranoid. 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For NFL player and host of the believe in forty niners podcast on the believe podcast network Eric Davis Eric Thank you very very much for coming on the show. Oh. Thanks for having me man appreciate Dan by so we're talking we're talking forty niners giants coming up this Sunday and You know interesting game really with the with the forty niners having to travel to metlife stadium two weekends in a row. How weird is that by the way that they have to come? To the East Coast Same Stadium. Two straight, weekends. Well I. Mean it's happened before. I remember when I was playing with the niners. We opened. I think in ninety one, we opened up with the giants and we ended up playing the AFC east that year. So we we had the we had the giants and then we went home play New Orleans, and then we had to fly out of Buffalo. And play them, and then we came right back and played the flew back the plate a jet. So it was like going across the country you know the the the entire first month or two of the season seems like we were flying back and forth across the country but unlike these guys you know we were flying back across the country. These guys are just saying they stay on the East Coast. They've they've done that since Shanahan has taken over that he they tend to stay on the east coast whenever they have that type swing, it shouldn't bother them too much. They don't have to worry about the jet lag. All right. So let's so let's talk about this team. Obviously. This team is beat up and I WANNA talk. First of all, you know the giants have a couple of big injuries of their own. And the forty niners website on our network is niners nation and I asked their writer. His opinion on this question so I'll throw it out for you here as well. Bigger loss saquon Barkley for the giants Nick Bosa for the forty niners. Nick Bosa. The forty niners reason being Let's let's be realistic about it. were the giants in contention with Barclay to win a championship. Rattling I don't think. So with Bosa, the niners were in contention to win a championship. a healthy Bosa gives you. He definitely keeps you in the mix of that. Now that doesn't mean that you can't get production from multiple sources to try and do. To do what he did and give the the impact that he could bring. But if you're if you're just going apples for apples for those two players, it's a much bigger loss when you look at The really the objective of the season and I don't think the giant afford everybody wants to win the championship of course. But but you also gotTa have the dudes to do that and I don't think the giants realistically even which Saquon have the pieces to win a championship right now. So I I gotTa go both Are So let me ask you. You know obviously, you apples for apples. On a normal Sunday. What the giants have on their roster right now doesn't match up to what the forty niners have. I'm looking at Sunday though with all the injuries that they've got all the running backs down there missing d Ford is well as as Bosa they're missing Solomon Thomas obviously. Are they somewhat vulnerable coming into metlife on Sunday? I mean, is this a game? Although they probably shouldn't win it. Is this a game that the that the giants might be able to sneak in and take? Well. Of course, because you have to play the game number one. Full strength both rosters nine have the better roster guys are injured now. So how were those how those reserves going to play? How? What is Robert Solid GonNa. Do we were just talking about Nick Bosa? You still need that production from the defensive line for your defensive for your defense to be a the the defense data it is drawn up to be. That's the way their defense is built is built off their defensive front. So you gotta get that production where's that GONNA come from? What are you GonNa do how are you going to get pressure on a quarterback offensively. Shanahan likes to run the football. You have a lot of injured running bags, his his top tier guys that he goes into his game playing with when he reaches into his bag, they're not there where are you going to get? Where are you going to get that production the quarterback situation you may possibly be playing with your backup Comfortable. Do you feel what are the expectations of him even though Muller's has been in the system? So is there vulnerability? Yes. Of course, it's a road game on top of that. It's hard to win on the road in the NFL, even without the crowd, it's still it's it's tough to. Do So is there is there a chance of course there is this is football. It's hard to win a football game and the niners are in a situation. Now to wear, they have to find a way to get through these weeks until they get healthy and that's and that's every team every year good teams are always going to have to deal with that. Hell. The saints lost drew drew brees early on last year and Teddy Bridgewater was able to come in and keep things going and that's what you have to have. That's one of the nine is all right now. So yes, there there is I I don't expect it to happen. I really don't, but there's definitely that chance that some guys don't perform up to the standard. What? I don't know how closely you've looked at the giants how much you've actually studied them but. From what you from what you do know about the giants? What do you think of this team? What do you think of the direction that this team is going in? I? Mean you maybe The possibility that this team might finally. Be Be hitting a point where it could be going in the right direction. I think he's going into right direction It's now you gotta just put the pieces together. You you have this running back this special running back and even though he hurt his knee, but he'll be back you fix those things and come back stronger now so he'll be back. you gotta get an offensive line that can work with him. You have a quarterback that I actually think is kate I mean he's talented enough to be the guy he's mobile Armstrong enough. So it's a question of putting the pieces around him Defensively You have a few pieces and the question is getting others there again but that. That that starts upstairs. Stars upstairs and the giants are it's a good organization you go out you've decided that you you have a head coach that comes from a certain philosophy that happens to Mesh with the Maros philosophy so I think That's that's to me. That's the most important thing. When you talk about direction, it's not a quarterback it's not a player it's not a coach is now the scheme it's you what's your philosophy? How how do you plan on winning? What do you think necessary from from Your Front Office from Your coaching staff from your from your locker room what what beliefs do you have in what it takes to win I? Actually think the giants of have that going in the right direction, which means everything else will fall into place. You'll get the flares you'll find some guys. You'll find some diamond in a row you will get you will be. Surprised when you you draft that V six rounder Anne turn into an Albro. All of those things started to happen when you have the right philosophy and you start bringing in the guys that you think fit bet philosophy. Okay. So there are two players on this giants team that that I wanted to ask you about before I. Let you go and one. Is a guy who plays the position that you played and for me played one of the better games that I've seen a giants cornerback play in ages last weekend against the bears. I just want to ask you about James Bradberry because people I'm not sure people are still like. Well, he's good but he's that good. Is He a shutdown guy? What is he? How good is James Bradberry I actually think he's really good. I I. Had some I was talking to some guys back in Carolina about it and and they asked me what I thought about him and I said I think he's the best corner that the Carolina fans have had since I was there and they kind of looked at me and I was like, yes, I know that you had him and I know that you. Had Josh Norman but I'm just saying just consistent lay well rounded capable of doing everything that you need a coroner to do from me. You know he can play man he can play he can play zone he can play in space he can make can play press coverage knows how to re concepts he he's a willing tackler. Things that that the the position requires he's he's consistently good at it and being consistently good gives you an opportunity to fall into some great plays. I liked him a lot. shutdown is. Really based on usage people always wanted road at term their shutdown corner and I say that about Richard Sherman, when he was with when he was with Seattle like, no, he doesn't match up but as far as usage goes from a defensive back from a defensive coordinator standpoint I can. I can set my defense off of what I know this is going to do. I know that this player is going to be able to handle the tough situations. I know that I can throw him in, give him shelter and safeties over the top and full people with disguises because this guy is a tight guy that I, I can leave alone Bradbury's one of those guys where you can build your you can build a defense off of it because he's one less thing to worry about and remember coaches are paranoid by nature. They worry about the what if and when you get to go out there and do something about it but the coaches are always worried about the what if so every time you have a player. That, you don't have to worry about. It makes life easier for that coach. bradberry is a guy. He he when you look at the eleven guys in the huddle you call defense you know okay. Let me think about the other chance that particular player I know he'll do his job and then you. So that's how you design defenses who cannot put in tough situations and I know I can get a win. You can get a lot of wins with him so. Just, keep watching him. You'll see the fans we'll see his he's a good player. He's pillar. All right. The other guy I wanted to ask you about obviously the giants lost saquon Barkley they're going to be missing sterling shepherd for a few weeks now. And I wanted to talk about about Ingram. A little bit. It looks like Evan Ingram is a guy that the giants are kind of going to have to feature. In their passing attack and giants fans get frustrated and they look at it and they think they think. Anger should be George biddle he should be you should be getting or putting up those kinds of numbers and I think they get frustrated. By the injuries first of all, but also by by sometimes the fact that he doesn't always produce the big numbers. For you you know how good of a player is Evan Ingram and and would you put him in the top tier of? NFL TITANS? What you did get into top tier. Are we talking talent or production of. For me to get into top tier about production and production. You mentioned some things that park it's partially health. because you have to be available to make those plays and then. A lot of it is scheme. What are you trying to do because you mentioned Ingram in the same light as kittle different being killed is the forty nine number one receiver. You wouldn't say that about England. The offense is designed with kid being the number one read on a lot of the plays he he's the guy that the quarterback is looking for when they have to move the chain. He's he's that guy and I said I've said that for a few years now when everyone liked the forty niners Neto number one receiver I'm like they have one. They he is their thousand yard receiver so. Hills there's no player wants to get her you. You try to stay healthy but you gotta play the game. You'RE GONNA get injured the only way to not get hurt his to not play football you will definitely get hurt but now. how how is the offense going to be designed? The giants offense is not designed. Designed for Ingram to be that big play. Guy. You know 'cause you started this off this question you started off by mentioning Ingram this someone in there they expect them to make make big plays outside. Everybody's waiting for him to do more of that. So wanting wanting of layer to do something, it's it's re we go back to Bradberry when you talk about easiest shutdown corner. Well, that's not their their defense. That's how they designed their defense to have their corners erase guys. That's not what the giants do is the same you aren't you want your tight end to put up numbers like Kelsey you want him to put up numbers like Kit. you. have. To. Run Office. where he featured these guys, Jackie don't do that. The other thing I wanted to ask you about Ingram I. Think you're a good person to talk about this. I keep getting an gotten it for four years. Now, the why don't the giants make Evan Ingram a wide receiver question and I keep saying because he's not a wide receiver because he does, yeah, he might have that skill set. Maybe he can. He can split out into the slot, but he doesn't have any experience you know lining up and beating oppress off off the edge and and those kinds of things i. Explain to people. The difference really for a guy coming off the line of scrimmage playing tight end versus trying to get open as a wide receiver. You know man-to-man face up with a guy like you. well, the difference is working in space like that and working. You put Ingram out against the better corners in the league. It's a mismatch. And everyone thinks I'm talking about for the tight end because of the size is no, it's not the the corners are much better athletes. They are superior athletes for your quicker. your changes direction is going to be there because everyone's assuming that I have to get in and wrestle with this guy and and he can body me out like he's blocking the on the low blocking like he's posting me up on a low block and basketball where there's no football remember I can cover a guy never touching. I'm GONNA be quicker. I I'm going to if. If if it was that simple, you would have moved years ago Tony Gonzalez would've played wide receiver grow with play wide receiver. You don't do it because yes. Physically it looks like it would just be this easy mismatch but the guys are so much faster and quicker that they can outmaneuver these guys and the majority of the players are going to be made by the corner. You're GONNA when you put that end against a safety or linebacker. where the speed is is somewhat equal quickness somewhat equal. Now, the advantage goes to that tied in knows what he's doing and and athletically a lot of the times they are better that that you lose that athleticism advantage when you move outside of the numbers and you go against corners, that's why you don't move that guy he wouldn't be as effective you know. Just beyond guys get into hands on the bigger guy he is the easy and for me. Zammit. Isn't much much harder to get my hands on a guy who's my size because he moves like me he he's quick like me you give me a big tight him. Man I, meet on top of meat or top of me to put my hands on. Eric I appreciate a few minutes. Thank you very very much and you know I'm GonNa Post this podcast and people are still going to ask me why even Ingram doesn't play wide receiver. Probably. Probably. It's it's a lot harder than it looks trust me. It's a lot harder to play wide receiver in the NFL than than than people. Think it is because you are you gotta get away from some really good athletes out there. All Right Hey, thank you very very much and maybe we'll talk to you again. Take care. Alright giants, fans that was former NFL cornerback in current host of the believe in forty niners podcast Eric Davis says, we broke down Sunday's giants forty niners contest for you are thanks again to what to Eric for coming on. Before we sign off today giants, fans just wanted to. Wanted to give you my my pick for. Sunday's game. If you've checked out our weekly staff picks and big blue view, you already know this if you've checked out the the look ahead podcast which I do on. Thursdays on the part of the espy nation. NFL. Show our Thursday episode called the Look Ahead With Rob Stats Carreira you already know what might pick is for this game. If you haven't seen the pick on either of those platforms Ah let you know here. Now I'm going with the giants I'm looking for looking for the upset on Sunday as of said in other places and said when when I was talking to to Eric Davis the under normal circumstances, I wouldn't pick the giants roster their talent level at this point in time just doesn't match up to the forty niners on on what you might consider a level playing field I just think that. That the giants have an opportunity here with the forty niners being. So banged up with injuries having such a long injury list. With you know Nick Bosa D Ford? Solomon. Thomas Richard Sherman probably not having Jimmy Garoppolo having their top two running backs probably, not able to play their injury list for for the forty. Niners is so long and the circumstance of coming back to metlife stadium for a second week in a row is is so different I and You know we know that the forty niners complaint so much about the metlife stadium turf. I. Can't imagine that they're thrilled about playing there again this particular, Sunday. I just think that that this is a game where I feel like the forty niners are vulnerable I feel like it sets up as it game where the giants could pull off an upset and I'm going to pick the upset here. So I'M GONNA go with the giants in this game We'll see if we'll see if they proved me wrong every time I seem to pick the giants to come in and pull off an upset in recent years. I wind up with egg on my face I wind up being wrong about that. But we'll. We'll see if if things finally begin to turn around and we'll see if I end up being right that the giants can pull off a surprising victory here on Sunday or a giants fans. Thank you very very much for listening. 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What Would You Do? + Pump the Brakes, Krampus Love

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What Would You Do? + Pump the Brakes, Krampus Love

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Did you have any music in your past Ason was ever a time in which you aspired to be as musically inclined as as Mike defense? Hitman, honestly, I really wanted to play the drums when it was what? What is it like? Third, fourth grade sell by that four. You go to the the band meeting and you get your instrument, you drop your name and a hat, and you get that instrument if they've got one or whatever. And so I went there to get the drums, wait kind of a crappy system is that you how they did kids that want to be musicians. It's just the luck of the draw. Well, it's a play. They only have so many instruments. So the five people wanna play the drums and they only have two drum sets. Okay. Okay. But here's, here's what has the hunger games for music. The saxophone player. I wanna pour the trumpet tuber. Here's what have, oh, there's a super quick because obviously football. This is important. No. But what happened is I went to put my name in the drums and at the last second I wanted to make my dad proud from bones. Great trombone player. So I hear that a bonus and traumatised Trump got to be a tremendous shorthand bonus. And so I so I put my name in the trombone. We call them trombley's schlumpy shockingly I was the only name I got. I got the trombone and I played that thing for a solid four days. And then I was like this, I only allure of the trombone as you can go. Yeah, you could illustrate fantasy football weeks with different sound. You could be joined bell, welcome to the fancy footballers podcast. Not the try expected, but when I enjoyed very much any Mike and Jason back again, it's Wednesday, and we've got a bunch of great stuff on today's podcast, we've got a new segment called, what would you do? So we're gonna. We're gonna talk through some of the top thirty picks or so and the NFL are in the fantasy draft. Drafts that took place and what do you do with them? Now we've got dropped pump the brakes on today's show parallel, I don't even know what's going on the show and we got a bunch of mailbag with a questions a little reminder. It is Wednesday, your waiver wires have gone through and you wanna make sure you check drop as Hong. You wanna drop it like it's how you want to check on who's been dropped because there are a lot of by weeks again, especially the by week players who they're certain teams that they got to win. Now, the head to make a very unfortunate decision guys like Vance McDonald, Aaron Jones. I bet you Aaron Jones hits waiver wires because of the week is very possible. So go have a little peek sqi, hopefully Aaron Jones and not just a little booby-trap for your roster. I'm not sure I would. I saw you drive my my Williams. I did drop Jamal Williams. So yeah, pay attention. Vance's a good name. Last day for foot clan giveaway dot com to win a sign, Corey Davis jersey in a championship belt in over the foot. Clan giveaway dot com. Inter free check out on Twitter at the ballers you can follow Jason, Jason NFL follow Mike at f- f hitman man. Follow name can follow me at a and e Holloway, and the websites the fantasy football players dot com. It is Wednesday, which means, oh, oh. It's pump the brakes with Oreilly. We're pumping the brakes. I was the best one ever guys. Thank you. I think it was. We work to you very simultaneous. Well, you're in while you were away you when you had morph into advocation. Did you hear? Yes, the producer, yes. Brooks, yeah, he got in on Easter. How did he get in on it? He demanded, oh, before we started the show, he's all guys shut up. It's my time John. I'm in. Yeah, that sounds like me. Can we make him do all the parts by himself next time? I one hundred percent pump the brakes. Here we go. My pump, the brakes for the upcoming week is I'm gonna. It's a two parter. It's Daqing coal. Oh, no, it is Dak Prescott and great jazz player, whole Beasley. Look, they're traveling to Washington. We talked about it a little bit on Monday studs and duds. Dak had a great week Kobe's Lee at a great week. This was the first quarterback one performance from Dak since week. Fourteen of the twenty seventeen season. He's been a QB one twice in his last fourteen games. That's the headline. And then the opponent, Washington. Digital game on the road. They've only allowed two hundred thirty six passing yards per game honesty. When I hear that Dax, like man, if I could get there if I could get two to thirty six. But look last week it was a lot of it was about the legs Eighty-one rushing yards Washington's given up the ninth fewest in the league in terms of passing yards. So I think it's a trap. I understand you're in a position to stream various guys. So look if you're stuck doing it, at least you might have a rushing floor there, but I don't like Daqing Cole. I'm not. I have no bids in on either of these players. Think you know a lot of people reacting to Kobe's Lee tyrel Williams. This week. We have enough of a sample size from Kobe's Lee to know that more often than not you get less than performance. He does this. He does. He's good enough to have huge games here and there at least a couple of season. Now, Jason had pants written in here until moments ago. Why will you pump the brakes on paint? They're, they're uncomfortable. They are unnecessary. Upgrade your pants, gay, man. I love Peter necessary to those around. You agree to this, you know my pump, the brakes, the unders or fine. My pump, the brakes this week is on a a man that I have loved for a long time. Eric EIB, Ron, the the number one tight in fantasy. I believe he's actually number two on the season. So far. Six touchdowns in six games has been an absolute dominant beast. So why am I pump the brakes on a guy that I really like? Who's been finally, the guy that we hoped he was when he was drafted number ten. Overall, how matter the lions right now they, they didn't use him in the same way. And honestly, here's part of the pump. The colts won't use him in this way. The colts have to use him because not y Hilton, no, Jack Doyle. Those are your first two targets for Andrew luck and they're both gone. There's a mother, what's going on over there? Buzzer for what? I'll let Jason. So my pump, the brakes is not one that is saying, oh, you've got a bench, Eric Brown this week plays buffalo. Oh, Buffalo's defense has been very solid lately, but they're, you know, it's not like you have to bench him because of buffalo. I think they've given up one reception for six yards in the last two weeks to the tight end position, but haven't faced any juggernauts there. It's much more so I wanna capitalize on what Hebron is doing. I wanna shop Ibran if I have him on my roster, now's the time to pack package trade him. People are in desperate need of tight ends. It's by weeks. You can get valuable things back for Eric Brown. And if you can do that and pick up off of waivers. Austin Hooper or CJ Zama or something like that. I wouldn't be shocked if they outscore Ibran this week. I mean if you really look at what Iran has done despite the great fantasy finishes, he's had plenty of games or three for twenty six, five for thirty three, five for forty. He's getting bailed out with a touchdown and win those players come back. Doyle, I don't. I don't think toils back necessarily, you know this week or or even next week, but I think that they're going to get their pass, receiving weapons back and that will eat into Errki Brunson. I'm pumping the brakes on Abraham as this top five tight end rests season. I don't believe that happens. Yeah, I'll just weigh in and just say that I disagree completely and think he's great. And I don't think Doyle is a surefire, you know, come back and be the number two target by any stretch of the imagination. They paid Hebron. They brought him in. He scored six touchdowns Andrew lucked throws three to four game. They're coming back all the time and he's being used like a white out. So I, I just disagreed that you would buy them. Then. I mean. This is my point. No, I point is that I'm not buying him. I'm just not. I'm not trading him and I'm not. And I don't believe that us alma or Hooper are like if I'm getting this kind of production from Abraham, I would just keep him, but your desire to keep him is what I'm saying will allow you to get valuable. I mean, people if people believe, if someone's I get this guy is going to be the guy. He's gonna be a top-five interested season. They will pay up for that. I think we're saying different things. I, we are saying, because when I hear pump the brakes, I hear pump the brakes on his production, I don't think is production is going to change very much. Therefore I don't pump the brakes on. You're saying that you do believe it's going to change. So go trader. I believe it's going to change and I believe that his value is so incredibly high right now at a position where you can easily replace it. So Mike's pump, the brakes is Trey Burton. I think the value of trade Burton is higher than Eric era. I don't think it. I think it's hard for people like as in trade value, probably no. No. Do to hype. No. I mean, Trey burden scored three touchdowns tied in one. I mean. I mean, I I would if I had if you had them both, I would imagine you're going to get far more for Eric Ibran. That's how I would say. But tasting Jason came in here last after I had already organized an entire argument of of pumping the brakes on trade Burton and then just copied. Everything was going to talk about Trey Burton right now. There's a difference. There is Trey Burton is fantasy fool's gold at this moment to me in the past two weeks. Mitch Trubisky has thrown nine touchdowns in six hundred seventy yards over the course of the season. Trae Burton is averaging averaging three receptions for forty yards. That's that's completely replaceable. Tight end value. He's just been bailed out with a couple touchdowns here and there. And in my my argument for trade burn is exactly what Jason's arguing for Eric Hebron. I think that Trey Burton still has named value. He. Has value because he's still a top twelve guy right now, and I would try to ship 'em off and grab one of those guys off of waivers like us. I'm so Jason OJ. Thanks, thanks for ruining everything for well. I honestly, I didn't even know who your pump was. So I apologize for nothing. Look at the big difference between those guys to me and why I believe in Hebron is e Brown is has fifty two targets on the year. Trae Burton is twenty three targets. Yes, even though there was the bike in there, I looked at it and it's eight point six game for EIB, Ron. That's why doubt numbers. Yeah. Four point six for Burton. That's not good. I would much rather have Ibran the Burton. So then I mean, I I would, as well is the third highest targeted tied in in the league more than Jimmy Graham more than cook, more than kill more than Hooper more than grunk. Whereas Burton's in is in the twenties targets, but I just don't. I honestly can't wrap my head around how you think that t. y. Hilton and Jack Doyle. Having not been on the field is not the reason the Eric Brown is averaging eight targets a game. He's not going to know he's going to be an eight target nuts. Not sustaining eight targets are are almost nine. Tari to game is not the only thing that matters here. It's red zone dependency and usage. When you have six touchdowns from the tide imposition, it's not a Mirage to me. It's not accidental. Hilton was there in the beginning of the year when he scored touchdowns. So to me, it's a matter of look, what do you want from a tight end? You've made that argument about Kyle Rudolph for years. It's like, oh my gosh, if you can get a touchdown from your tight in you're your in the money. I don't think you can get enough for me Brian to justify the trade when a guy's number three and targets. Number two on the season, it's just a matter of opinion. It's pure speculative opinion. I can't believe I'm sitting here talking about Eric Hebron in that way. They put him on it. He's on a new teams too. So it's not like you guys p in the same found. If he was doing this in Detroit. It would be more Mirage like like they lost three or four weapons in Detroit. He's never done it there for a long time, but it's a new. It's a new team. He's earned the trust of six touchdowns tells me earned Andrew, lex trust. Jer. News and notes from around the league. This was the monster news yesterday which will cause me to to speak more into this microphone. Devante Freeman running back for the falcons with after the show. He's on injured reserve guys. He's going to undergo groin surgery on Thursday. He will not return this season. Technically, he could return in week sixteen I, you know if they're in playoff contention, maybe that happens. But the story now is we need to dissect in talk about Kevin Coleman and Edo Smith. It changes the entire question for me on Edo Smith. The fact that devante Freeman gone because instead of Ito's Smith being maybe a one week, placeholder touchdown, dependent guy. You start to look at it from a new perspective where if devante Freeman is gone, Will Smith is their fourth round rookie and Tevin Coleman is likely to fly the coop all of a sudden it's what do we have in Edo Smith, right? And in the last two games where Kevin Coleman in ITO Smith were the only backs. It was a fifty seven. Forty five split. So I'm much more interested in Edo Smith obviously with the knowledge that he's not going to be replaced in a week by devante Freeman. Now this comes comes a little late for the waiver wire. Yeah. It's unfortunate at the timing of it because ITO Smith skyrocketed to my number one claim we were talking about Germain curse was the top guy to ad. But if you could add a running back who's going to get snaps and get touches, he's the most valuable because those guys don't always pop up on a high powered offense. There they utilizing him in the red zone as we talked about, I'm very, very intrigued for for adding ITO Smith. Yeah. I mean, I went back and I watched every snap on the season for eight. Oh, Smith had a couple of good runs, especially near the end zone. He has a nose for that went back and watch some college film to, I know your eyes. I know you're is myself and my takeaway was his opportunity is everything you want. I don't think he is anything special. He. He never looked like he was breaking tackles. You know, he was able to be taken down a little bit easier, but he he is very fluid at catching. The ball was very productive as a receiving back in Cali. Forty, nine receptions, forty, three receptions, forty receptions. Those are final three years at college college. Those numbers are sows are unbelievable reception so he can't catch the ball. The opportunity is there. He has enough talent to be valuable for fantasy, but he is no devante Freeman, he's not. He doesn't have the power and the and the balance to be that, you know, he's not gonna come in and just take over that role completely, but very valuable. He'd be my number one cook, that's, that's the thing, though is he'll take over take the freemen role, the role he could, but he won't succeed at it is my point the savy way. 'cause devante Freeman was looked really, really bad in his entire rookie. Yes. Yeah. In Edo Smith was an investment by this team in the draft. He if you listen to Dan Quinn talk about him, he is gushing. About his pass protection and the opportunity that he has and because Coleman is going to be leaving. I do think there's a world where you know Smith is seeing. I think he's going to win weeks in total touches based on game script and so take that for what you will. I don't disagree with Jason. He's three point two on the season on thirty two carries. So he's not running for chunk yardage, maybe some of that's red zone. I agree with Jason's take on him, not looking special, but Coleman hasn't looked special this season either. And if this team starts going downhill, why are they giving? Why would they give Coleman play? If over the second half of the season, they're not in contention Coleman's leaving that. So I think they'd be investing more the, let's flip at the other side, what is heaven Coleman rest the season because I think Kevin Coleman. Owners are all dancing in the streets. Tevin Coleman is he's running back to this is this was the special thing involved in seven Coleman's draft price at in the six round or so you're drafted you drafted running. Back that had standalone value. And then if something were to happen in front of him, he gets a huge booth. I think ITO Smith is unfortunate for what you thought you were going to get into heaven Coleman. It. It seemed like coming into the air. If devante Freeman went down seven Coleman's an automatic running back one. I don't think that's the case. I think he's more of a mid range running back to. All right. All right. So do you, you're not pumping the brakes on Tevin Coleman at all? Oh, not at all. Three, three point seven to carry this year versus four point two career average? Yeah, but opportunity will be there on a very high scoring offense. I'd be stoked if I had. I forgot to mention it earlier, but the pump the brakes was brought to you by O'Reilly auto parts, better parts, better prices every day. Other quick news Giorgio too Vecchio taking over at the kicking position for the foul GIO Giorgio, I guess, didn't even say it right? Greg's our line. Oh, he's back. He's back for the rain. Take my team is very happy. This was big news to Jon Gruden concern with marshawn Lynch is groin strain could be a long term injury. I want to be very, very clear. I'm not going to even look in Doug Martin's direction. I'm not. I'm not even going to see like it's one of those things answer full Medusa. Like I'm not if I happen to glance in his direction, I'm turning to stone. I'm not doing it. Jalen Rashard is the guy to own he. You know, this is a team that stinks, their defense stinks retards going to be on the field enough to make you go. Yeah. Okay. With starting squeeze them into my flex and there and Doug Martin will get out there and eighteen carries for sixteen yards. Yes. No, he will have one. He, they're not gonna use them. I go. The point is whether they use them or not. He's going to be worse. Yes, yes, that I will make the argument against that, but I do believe if if marshawn Lynch system is time the then I think Doug Martins in line to see ten plus touches a game even with them getting none last week with, yes. Lynch off the field? Yeah. Well, I mean, Rashard is the PR guy? Yes, six or seven. Seven receptions the last two weeks on by this week comes out of the by though with Indianapolis, San Francisco. There's probably value there. You're gonna have to sift through and like I said, don't touch touch cramps. It's gross, and I have a personal stance against not adding Doug Martin, but we would be remiss he's if you're in a deeper league. I do think that he's worth a speculative. Add on your bench. I'll bet. I'll bet you my house. This is I love. I love this right now. I so far right now on this show. I have been anti Brown while well, Andy has fought for Hebron. Andy has been anti-drug Martin while you fought productive. No, no, no. I don't hear who we all like to. Doug Martin quote, friend, Jason more. Don't hear what I'm not saying here. What I'm not saying it's is terrible. I don't want to just take a stance. Don't don't stand up for him. Might not stand up for a running back who might see twelve to fifth. Myers loves cramps. Marshawn Lynch was an isn't even getting twelve to fifteen carries delays eighteen nineteen twenty. In the beginning of the year, you're reading his numbers. How about the last three weeks? Twenty nine thirteen nine hundred. Thirteen. Thanks Mike. No, I understand the past two weeks that it's it's been. He's been game scripted out. I just saying I think he's going to touch the ball. Okay. All right. Mike, let's cramp. All right. Let's take a break here we're going to get into. What would you do? 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Overall he is the Rb twelve in point per game. And the reality for David Johnson is that he's kind of having a Todd Gurley like year from two years ago when he was with Jeff Fisher, you drafted girly that year in the top three year ended up with a Rb twelve to fifteen on a weekly basis. David Johnson has Denver tomorrow, San Francisco, and then the by week, what are you doing David Johnson. So the this is really important thing about David Johnson. The past two weeks he is he is received, eighteen carries and both of those weeks. He's rushed for fifty five. I wasn't even ready laid back in your. That's not actually what's important, but he's getting that's more of a food. After the first two week Duboc oil where they were not giving him the ball, I should say, I three weeks. He's getting a lot of carries on the ground. He's seeing targets. His numbers are certainly inflated by scoring four touchdowns five touchdowns in the past four weeks. I would just hold onto him right now. If you if you weathered the storm and didn't sell him when everything looked like it was absolutely terrible. If things look slightly less terrible now and he gets the played Denver, we're going to preview that game San Francisco. And then after the bye week, the Kansas City Chiefs. So I think it's very possible that in the next three weeks that David Johnson gives you perfectly acceptable, fantasy numbers, they're not what you drafted him to be, but I'm gonna just hold them for now. I'm not trading him Jason. You. Or re tweeting the marvel that is the Arizona offense unfathomable. I mean, it's truly it's really honestly something that I couldn't even wrap my head around. It seems a possible someone had done the research found that the there's no cardinals are twenty eighth in total rushing attempts the near near dead last in the league. They're just not enough plays to right to to have good, rushing numbers, but they are. I in the league in Russia's strip, straight up the middle. Just, hey, let's just give it to this guy and go right ahead of the rookie center and see if see what we can get. I wanna yard. I'm want maybe two. We joked about this to each other frequently of all. They're gonna give it to David Johnson run up the middle, and it was always right. I didn't realize it. Was that atrocious? It's embarrassing. It is hashtag fire, Mike, McCoy again. Yeah, he was fired in season last. Yeah, that's why we wanted. He he extra prep time. Ridiculous. All right, Jason. What do you do right now with the enigma that is, oh, del Beckham. Oh, you change you? I did change it on you. Look Beckham was drafted twelve overall as the wide receiver. Three right now he's wide receiver. Nineteen points per game has Atlanta's Washington and a buy week coming up. The story for back in this year has been, you know, you're not getting what you hoped because his average depth the target is so atrocious in gross and hard to look at fourth. Most targets though in the league for most receptions in the league, what are you doing with Odell Beckham junior, here's what I'm not having a friend. I'm not selling owed l. Beckham junior. I am. I'm holding Odell Beckham. I am one hundred percent fine with, you know, look, we feel like this has been very, very a just an an abysmal year. So far for Oto Beckham junior, he is. Currently on pace for one hundred twenty receptions and thirteen hundred forty nine yards. And we're like us. His is so bad because he's had a couple of duds, not touch, really? No touch. Yeah, right. He's on pace for three touchdowns and that's not been Odell Beckham the offense. It's it's a very similar situation to David Johnson, right the he's limited by his offense by his quarterback right now. But when you are near the league lead in targets and you are a freak of a player, right? We talked, there's two things that matter talent and opportunity. Well, he's got the opportunity and he's got the talent, so you have to hold onto him. You have to play him more often than not. He's going to be serviceable every now and then he's going to give you a boom and every now and then he's going to give you a bust. And that's okay. He's not an outright bust the way that people are feeling about him. That's why. For a couple of weeks. I was saying trade you trade forum ahead of this Atlanta matchup on Monday. I mean, look, if you need a week, I would be really surprised if the Atlanta Falcons defense can contain l. Beckham and the hotel Beckham owners are willing to sell him right now. So it's worth a try, but you can't buy him as a top three wide receiver because we know with his limited offense, he's not, but he is a wide receiver one. So if that's what you need and you can buy him for that value, then I'm fine with that. Oto Beckham the argument we're having the discussion we're having about Oto Beckham is generally the one we have Julio Jones every single year. It's receptions, are there yardage is there he still supporting your fantasy team, but it's been unlike Odell where the touchdowns are simply not coming. That's the touchdowns are everything to me, and but I, I don't know if those are going to start raining down. I think they have. They will this week, you'll get at least one this week, but for. For the length of the season Scott to adjust your expectations, which is he's a low end wide receiver one. And that's really the overarching question I want answered here with these players is how are you adjusting expectations? Because there are two ways you can do it. You can't say the player is underwhelming and will then meet expectations over the remainder of the season. Right? Like a hitter. That is a great hitter and just starts with a couple slumpy months. And then you get the best hitter in baseball for the next four months or. Oh, baseball reference is unbelievable or. Yeah, I apologize. I know that hurts. You. Or they are something else are. They are actually something else needs to be treated that way. And that's why I'm gonna bring up Keenan Allen's name to you. Mike, because Keenan Ellen right now is the wide receiver twenty nine points per game. He was drafted seventeen overall as the wide receiver six and it's it's just I would firmly put him in the disappointing category because because Philip rivers is right now, he's an MVP candidate. He's in the top five and he's on pace for probably forty touchdowns Keenan has what one. One touchdown. It's not been good, so and Jason, you own them? Yeah. Hey, my own David Johnson and Keenan out health garri. Oh, and you know who else? Devante Freeman. We talked about him too, and none of us disagree with Keenan Allen's like ability and talent, but it's always been volume based, and it's always been being Philip, rivers may man. So are you adjusting your expectations? Rest the season for Keenan elmich. This to me was my slight hesitance for Keenan Allen's draft value coming seasons because this is who kina now and is this is so he was last year the the first half of the season. He was just solid. He was fine for your fantasy team. Everyone remembers the second half of the year when he won leagues for people because he absolutely caught fire. He can do that. That's in the realm of outcomes for Keenan Allen is to just all the sun takeover. The offense and be a a league winner buying or selling. I I'm still willing to buy him. So I'm not selling them if he's on my team because I know what he could do is it seems very unlikely I get. It's always always always darkest right before the sun rises. So just hold on. Yeah. I mean, look when we talked about Keenan and we tried to not have rose colored glasses. We would look at last year the first half of last season. He was on pace for eighty receptions a thousand yards to touch. That's those are. That's okay. That's a wide receiver to the second half is on pace for one hundred and twenty four sixteen hundred yards and ten touchdowns which is vault wide receiver one, right? And we said, it's probably going to be somewhere in between, right? Yes. Well, right now on the season. He's on pace for ninety six eleven hundred and fifty seventy. Yards and three touchdowns. So I think the targets are there. The the yardage is gonna stay the same, but I do expect his touchdown volume to go up over the second half of the season as do I. So I guess if you would have to, if he's not hold, if you have to say buy or sell, I would still be buying because unlike David Johnson and Odell Beckham, this is an offense that is clicking. This is an offense that just hasn't really needed him necessarily yet long bombs to tyrel William elven lords. Melvin Gordon would stealing all the TD's. You remember that rookie season with Melvin. Gordon had zero touchdown. Yeah, head coach, Mike McCoy. Oh, the NFL's. Great man just get a job once field. And also when you get that job, make sure that your quarterback is is destined for the hall of fame because then you just ride it out for a ten year career and get that job. You go shake everybody's hand in the world. You become best friends with everybody. You send little flowers and cookies and candies to everybody in the NFL. That's a nice guy. There. He won a Super Bowl. Today's manning disgusting. Then everybody thinks nicely of you and you can write it for about thirty years. It's come on NFL. You're better than this. I think. Some of them are. I mean, some of them are. It was funny. I was thinking like. Just imagining Sean McVay is the head coach with the Packers and, oh my goodness, the foresight and wherewithal you'd have to have had to drop McCarthy who's been pretty well renowned in the past and go of writing on Iraj back. Yes, which is painful? Yes. But essentially and then have the foresight to bring in a McVeigh or a Shanahan right? Somebody that's doing something good, Arizona Cardinals trading entire draft class for Sean McVay. Okay. I don't think they would do it Jason. Oh yes. Oh, you're die. Think waivers just went through an Mike's. You outbid me by a freaking dollars. Yes, I did it perfect. And I bumped on Marie times during this show on dollar eight. Oh Smith forty dollars. I bid was thirty nine dollars and stupid. Jason Ghanem for forty. Really? Yeah. He only started at thirty. I went to thirty three and once thirty-five went to forty message Brooks. My Kohner should I bump them up to a kindle? He's, I think we're good kills a forty four dollars. And that is so upsetting. All right. Well, that's a lot more than I thought he was going to go for bid fifteen bucks on him. Well, you only have twenty nine dollars. This is true. I think people might find it. Interesting. Here's who are the highest spins. Edo Smith was the number one pick up Taylor. Gabriel actually went as the second highest Germain curse went as the third highest. He's he was kind of my favorite pickup. If you need a flex dot right away before ITO Smith's news with devante Freeman looks like my grabbed Rahim most. Oh, I was the only one in on. We're not. I had a two dollar higher bid, but I had grabbed them. So yeah, I bid on him as well, but nothing and then Frank gore, he is everything. And if something else that you know of is infinite and all he has gore and then it was defense isn't stuff. So Christian Kirk, I picked him up. There you go. All right. What would you do Mike or nj sin with freaking dollar man? Yeah, feels he'll real bad man. Real bad. Yeah, you had my you must be pretty disappointed. No idea. I liked it. Listeners get the very tangible emotional insight here. Did you guys catch the giant Matthew berry rain yesterday? Oh, I did. I mean this I thought that was that was eeking to my season. That was unbelievable. Unbelievable. He needed one point. One point remorse from Alfred Morris, and he's in a league where they give point for first downs, so he actually got the point, but then it was worth holding call before the holding because he hadn't gained ten yards. But he got close down so he would have won. And then he said it was the worst loss in thirty years. So that's rough. Fun football. All right. What what would you do right now with TY Hilton because I don't know if people know what to do with TY l. is a must buy, absolutely must own must keep mustache must by one hundred percent because you can find it. It's hard to hold onto a Leonard for net sometimes because there's just not a, there's not a replacement. Sometimes you have to trade them if you're losing games, but you can grab it your main curse in get by for a week off of waivers or something like that. When t y, Hilton comes back with what's happening with the colts defense and offense. T y. Hilton is just going to be dominant. He's gonna take everything away from Ron. Okay. The parents are the same player. They physically, yeah, skill is the past three weeks. Andrew luck is averaging thirty three completions three hundred seventy six passing yards in nearly four touchdowns TY hill and they're losing. If you can get t y Hilton right now, I would absolutely do it. Yeah. All right. What about how do you feel about rob gronkowski Mike? You've been his biggest advocate right now? He's the tight end six, which is fine, but it's not why you spent up on grunk. You spend up for the number one Mondo points. Now, this offense is very interesting because there are some that believe it's the best in the league. Now with omen back Josh Gordon, if you listen to Bella check on the press conference yesterday with media, very optimistic about Josh Gordon integration, it wasn't a passing comment. It was look every week. It's getting a little bit better with what we feel comfortable giving him doing with him. So there are a lot of mouths to feed HOGAN, three or four receptions a week. James white, Josh Gordon juuling Ataman. Now gronk is still wrong, but what are you? What are your thoughts here? What are some metrics people can lean on? I look the way I feel about gronk right now is I returned home. And I found rob gronkowski and my house, but he was playing hockey in he is smashed my favorite vase. Without question. I'm very disappointed in you rob gronkowski, but you're still giant hole king may on who plays the tight end position better than anybody in the NFL. So it's fine. I'll buy new vase. He, the only worry I have is he hasn't looked like, I don't know. He hasn't looking Mojo bag. I believe on. I know you had a couple of long long last week, but like if you watch him run in, you watch Travis. Kelsey run gronk usually whenever he's out there looks just completely uncover. -able just so much bigger, stronger faster than everyone. I don't know. He seems there was a little bit slower and there was there was a play. He was running into double coverage at ton. There was a play where the patriots were driving down. This was I believe, the final drive to win the game. I can't remember the wide receiver who got the. The shot on the edge, but who goes just slightly out of frame. You see, rob gronkowski takeoff from in line and two guys just level him. I mean, like you're like, holy crap. Rob gronkowski does not got knocked on his behind, but I think that the the presence of Josh Gordon is what the patriots offense has been missing. We thought Chris HOGAN could get it done and be the field stretcher on his own and opened things up. So teams couldn't just double cover rob gronkowski the entire game with Josh Gordon said to emerge. I think that completely helps rob gronkowski. This isn't a too many mouths. This is a opening up opportunity to me if people want to know what has actually happened. It's been. Really red zone concerns. He only has one of the twenty eight New England red zone targets. You expect them to line him up on the outside. Yes, and him to have opportunities. Rich re Bart mentioned that his red zone targets are the same as James Devlin at this point in the season, and we're not talking one or two games. We're talking games without Ataman. We thought he would be a great red zone beneficiary. In those games, you've seen New England run the ball more. He's only seen eight plus targets. He saw the eight-plus targets in seven games last year. He has not seen him once this year. So there is a to me, yes, he's becoming a leap two more touchdown dependent because you're getting two three catch games without touchdowns, which makes you go. Yeah, I will say this about week three. I was talking about how I would still much rather have gronk than Kelsey and Mike was like, I'm not sure about that. And so at this point, having watched enough film, not just the metrics and who's doing better. You know those things change, but Kelsey looks to me to be the better tight in. Would you trade grunk wrong straight up for rate across because I think a lot of leagues they would go, oh, man. I know he's better, but he's grunk. I will take that trait. Yeah, I were saying you'd rather have Kelsey. Kelsey is my number one tight end rest of season, but they'll you've, I mean, clearly that that is in judgment of, yes. When we were talking about before where it was gronk was the far and away number one, whereas spending no high pick on. Now, you're saying he's not going to be that guy wrestling, Patrick Mahomes came in and set my draft plans on fire. Yeah, the the difference I it. Would you rather have Andy. You have gronk someone offers you, Kelsey, what do you do. I, I think I hold on a group and I leaned Belsey. Then that's it's very, very close. And the reason I do is just because I think that these are both the probably the Rams the patriots, the chiefs are thirty plus points a game. I, you know the. So then the the follow up question would be if you wouldn't trade ground for Kelsey, you certainly would not trade gronk for Zach irks Jason. Would you rather have Zach ertz or rob gronkowski? I would still rather have gronk there. I think that's how I feel about it to it's Kelsey is just elevated himself. He has. He has. He has smashed the gronk tear spray painted over it and said, Travis. Kelsey was here, and then he got a penalty on that play. Couple more. Let's do these words real quick before we get into Thursday night preview because that's part of today's show is well Kenyan, Drake, what do you do. Let's make it easy. Let's quickies another quote for my friend, Jason Moore is a Baxter situation where I would punt him off the white you because you want Doug Martin in place of. Yes, yes, clearly, no, that is not true at all. Stop it. Somebody words in my mouth, I would. I want that to be a thing. I would not rather have done more then drink. I would not drop him, but if I can package him and get him the heck out of dodge, then I would hope we have some painters out there and they can. They can put some Mike and Doug Martin on canvas together. Now you stolen through a park as long as we are shirtless and hugging than I'm okay with it. Sure, sure. The muscle hamster. Derrick, Henry thirty. Third overall was where he was drafted. He's the Harvey fifty, seven, he is atrocious. I just tried to drop him, but I got outbid by a dollar. I've had. As funny. I have Edo Smith in the listener league. I had him a week ahead of time and which speaks more to how bad my team is, but. I've been offered every one of these middling players for ITO Smith. I mean, Eric, Henry pass sending them along. No, I don't have any interests. He's he's one yard before contact, which is the second worst in the league right now. And that's more indicative of an old online is struggling immensely giving up eleven sacks last week Dion. Lewis is third worst than that metric, and he used to be Mr. you know, gain a bunch of ours before contact. Derrick Henry is the problem and we, we spoke about this. I think it was on the foot cast Mike last week for the patriots we. We were talking about the problem with Corey Davis is the same problem with Taiwan Taylor, which is the same problem with Dion Lewis, which is the same problem with Derrick Henry, which is the same problem is Marcus mariota. It is Marcus mariota. Yeah, that is the problem. He's his own problem. Yeah, he's the titans problem. Yeah, does he's not good. Thursday night breakdown. It's gonna be a game of football, the Broncos at two and four take on the one in five cardinals on Thursday night car. Hope you like running backs cardinals. Her Mike McCoy, revenge game. Oh, can run so hard up the middle. Right as try and my work, though the Broncos twenty eight in the league against the run the cardinals of thirty first against the run. They give up twenty seven and thirty two points to the fantasy running backs per week, which is atrocious and the cardinals are one and a half point home underdogs in a forty one and a half point over under game. I like. I like the cardinals defense at home against a struggling case keenum. I think that that's some thing you can play this game. I think that the player that I'm most excited for this week that it's a bubble player, right? It's not just. Oh, yeah. Well, of course you start him every week is Royce Freeman Royce. This is a great if you can't play Royce Freeman against the cardinals, then you can't ever play Royce Freeman, I would be happy to play him. I've thought about making him my start of the week. I've looked at offering trade offers for him in in leagues where I, I need a play this week from that says someone I can get cheap because that's a really strong tape. Yeah, because he had he did not get a lot of carries last week and his Lindsey didn't carries a snap percentage. What happened last week was Denver was just completely manhandled by by their opponent, and they were down. And so de devante Booker was on the field and but he led him snap percentage of those three running backs. And if you look at by a bud hair, but well, regardless, he was still there and there's a metric, and then you know, Booker was on the field way too much, but do does anybody here think the cardinals are going to be up where the Broncos are going to be having to run their two minute offense for half of the game. No, I actually, I agree. Remember how bad latavius Murray was on onell unstoppable. How bad the Vikings offense of line when it comes to rushing the ball was how did he do against their Zona? Yeah, he at at least five. Vosa plays place. I, I'm with Jason. I think Royce Freemen's a fine play this week. Would you play? Lindsey? I would play Lindsey over him and that that's my, but only. Why isn't Lindsey the started the week if you've played Lindsey Lindsay's a every week, starter guide opinion already like he is interested. He's worked his way fi actually would play Freeman overland, oh, wow, Royce or Philip. Lindsey has worked his way I am going there and I say yes, sir. Waterbed Lindsay's become from an undrafted free agent into you. Don't even really have to talk about him because you start him every week. Okay. Well, good, good. We cardinals can't play defense. We know that at least against the running back physician, we talked about Christian Kirk talked about picking him up as a flyer. Can you play them at home in this game against Denver. I mean, they are. This is just not a high scoring affair. Yeah, I look when you've got to teams that are both beatable on the ground and both teams have running backs that should be able to succeed in that role. Let's just let's play out that possibility of the game script. That means there's a low scoring game. The clock is running. You know, the the game ends a little bit quicker in real time fewer points scored. So I like the running backs here. I like the defense is here for those reasons, but I'm not crazy about really any of the wide receivers. Gotta play me Emmanuel Sanders. Yes, he's, he's earned a, he's just you have to start him. He's the clear cut. Number one target. You could play four other wide receivers. In this game. You could play Christian Kirk or leery at home. You could play the Mary's Thomas certainly or Cortlandt Sutton. Would you rather play areas? I did about any rankings. We'll be out later today, but on the spot off the cuff, would you rather play Damaris Thomas or Christian Kirk cartesian. I mean, that's. Waterbed. No, I'm definitely not wanted. Eventually lady hit the button. That's a binding contract. Jason. You've made a point of saying this game is an atrocious. Opportunity for fans on Thursday night. Yes, let's make it interesting. Yeah. Well, let's put some pets as many bets out there as possible. All right, Rosen versus case keenum who you got. I got case. Waterbed, yes. All right. Here's the deal. May Jason made the point. There are four other place you could start just because we're water betting on. It doesn't mean we wanna start up the the difference, making factor for any flex play is what is the games outlook like? This is a forty point over under with struggling quarterbacks that is normally the difference maker that lets me put in a John Brown or Corey Davis, or somebody else in a different matchup over a Damaris. Thomas Sutton, Christian, Kirk. All right. So let me ask this question the the Broncos defense they are currently ranked twenty second against fantasy tight ends. There is a tight end who in the past three weeks has had fifty two or more yards twice fifty two yards last week, five for sixty nine. But right in the middle of that was a giant uncooked goose egg Ricky seals Jones. Do you have any faith deploy him at home against. A decent match faith. No, you have to have Cahoon is you're going Indiana Jones stepping out and hoping that the bridge appear. Yeah. No, thanks. I'm afraid of heights. If middle game, maybe you know if that was a cooked goose egg, I'm might be will always let it was uncut. It was an rotten. Let's let's answer some questions not talk about this game anymore. Mailbag. Right. If you have a question, go to the website, the fancy footballers dot com to submit your question or dial voicemail hotline, three zero, two, four, six, four t. f. f. b. let's go and jump in here. First question from executor in Toronto is is my jor is Michael Thomas for Levy Mbela. Good trait. No. I'd rather Michael, I completely agree. And I know I've been very pro of once living about comes back that he's going to be the most most of what he has been in the past there. If you were following the news, there was some weird, vague reporting coming out yesterday that a baseball reporter in Florida ran into levian. Bell says he's for circum back in Rappaport retweeted it saying this is kind of interesting. So it's it's still a complete unknown win levian bells going to come back. But Michael, Thomas is a monster. He's had a couple down weeks, but he's he still a top five bell come back and takes over the level role than it will be a clear win to have love belly, Michael Thomas. But the risk is gigantically high still for love bell. The ominous passed is by week as well. Exactly the option that he doesn't come back at least the during the bye week, the option that he. Comes back and splits or or worse. And so, yeah, I would rather have a great player that you know is a great player. I jump into a voicemail question. Hey, ballers how's it going? Jack in Virginia here. Hey, I have a question for you. If you're out to a big lead this year, you're seasonally maybe five or six zero five and one or something like that. What's something that you can do as an owner to keep yourself from getting complacent? How can you stay hungry? Stay ahead of the curve and keep those winds coming. Thanks. Love show by. Yeah, I think you just my personal thought right there is just stay ahead of the disciplines that give you a small advantage each and every week. So making sure that you're doing your research when it comes to defense's picking up the right defense and kicker, grabs her loin giving the waiver wire, get ahead of your by weeks by two or three weeks because you've got some buffer space. You don't need production off the bench. So you know two weeks ago if you were there in Rogers owner, you would have been a head of the game grabbing Andy, Dalton, grabbing Jameis Winston, somebody else. You know, if you have by weeks coming down the line, I would be paying attention to those and a lot of times it's motivation to because once you feel like once you feel like, okay, I'm locked in. I don't need to pay attention look at your league. Because if if your league I would say most or at least half have a first round. Bye for the highest winters that is so valuable. I mean, when you're in there, you got assuming it's a three week system where the first week, you know, two players get a by those. I mean, you only need to win one game. If you've got the by to be in the in the your fantasy championship. So go hard after every win. And if you're that team and you can go get levian bell, that is one hundred percent worth the risk or even a Leonard fournette type to me because I think he's gone for another couple of weeks. But when he comes back, he'll be as long as he doesn't go to onto Freemen's direct. I would rather go. Yes, Jerome in Pennsylvania, I was offered ODA Beckham junior for ju ju and want to know if I should accept half point leak to trade juju for Beckham. Correct? Yeah, I would still do it as rather have back. I'd rather media Greg in Chicago. Hi guys. I only on McCoy n- my ten person standard league just got offered Jordan Howard accept this trader, right at shady shady. Shady shady, shady back to the absolute volume machine. His his offense is not nearly as good, but the volume is counteracting. Jason is deep in thought he is staring off into the void. Looking issue is soul. This one is really, really tough for me because I think you're gonna miss a couple of weeks here with Josh Allen and the shady that you're gonna get is going to be putrid. And if Jordan Howard gets the work, he's going to be much better it. But here's the thing. The work is obviously more guaranteed with shady. There is a possibility that Derek Anderson is the quarterback for the buffalo Bill? Yes. That he was he was. He's been named the starter. Thank you. Brooks Derek Anderson has yes over Peterman. Yes. The bills. Have you would have been the? The bills have their best stored over Peterman the best starting Cornell fan all year. Starting this week. Oh. I know. Yes, no, no, but I love it. Yeah, it's not true, but it it may be the best maybe the most willing to Chuck it down field and do those type of things. Yeah, I would go shady. Dare look start your colts defense against air. I am. I mean, I'm I'm less excited about the colts defense with their Anderson than I was with Nathan Peterman Nathan Peterman. It was like, oh, colts, you have to start him. I agree. Cool Stevens night navigate. Well, the limited Derek Anderson. Andrew in Orlando. Last question are Michelle and white. The new Camerin Ingram if I have both. Can I play them together every week? Yes. Cool. Easy. All right, that is it for today's show. Thanks for tuning in listening subscribing, supporting over, joined the foot dot com and don't forget to check out draft dot com. Slash ballers tomorrow. We'll have matchup starts the week and much more. Thank you for listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast, join our fantasy football community on join the foot dot com and follow us on Twitter at the f. f. ballers.

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Week 7 Rankings

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Week 7 Rankings

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And so I and luckily there's this video clip out there. This is the beauty beauty of what we do feel that some of these things rants epic rants like the one Matthew berry put on display yesterday. My absence can live on in perpetuity. I kinda think Matthew went viral yesterday. No, I'm not so sure what they finish in of going viral as it might be subjected like virus. I hope out of a virus because I would not like to miss any work. But what I would say is this, yeah, in my book and let's just call it the official book of going viral. Matthew one final, congratulations father jerk for key. My car mastered the social media game, apparently. Ranch game? Yeah. Carried on his heads already grown since last night. It came from a true please of hatred and frustration. Oh, my of you might be wondering. I saw Matthew berry later in the afternoon yesterday and he delivered the rant personally in my face that's screaming everything about the forty Niners. So I not only got to watch it. I got to relive it in person one on one. It just I just feel like car medically the odds of the forty Niners winning a game ever again, are slim now. They, they wronged, you Ron, your not just me. I how many people reacted the video telling me this happened to me as well. So many people were, you know, look counting on Alfred Morris for one point for one, I have a new rule. One one point I had to do with like missing in the rant that we were. The clip was the fact that like beat writers throughout the week saying it was. Matthew, my news, I have a new rule. So if a player is active for a game. He automatically gets one point all issues. Just it just feels like seventy literally was somebody that was our starting running back the week before, right? Like if you gotta get more than my sassy points per. Yeah, giving one snap. And if you actually watch the game, you actually watch the game. I watched every. I know. And then I know you did because people will. You don't know is that I got texts like every ten minutes from Matthew. What's going on with your forty Niners? Why isn't Moore's on the field, but but the what is. Manrique connection looks really good. Like they're that candidate running backs. Look, really good though. She cow Shanahan might surprise you sow. Third, actually try to win a football game. To solve your fantasy proud to find. I don't disagree with anything just said there. I thought most look great and they obviously, they ran the ball very successfully. The only reason they lost is because they did this to me, but my issue isn't that my issue is that is that that there was no that he Lilley declared Matt, Brita doubtful for the game. It was his amid ankle sprain and just that there was no officially questionable about it. There's nothing out there in terms of was not officially doubtful that he referred to him as doubtful. The head coach called him doubtful. In a quote in a press conference. He was quoted as saying that, and so. Unlikely to play doubtful means unlikely to play. And so there's a lot to do that. To do that. It's true. What is wrong? What guys? They official injure report that comes out on Saturday for the Monday night game had map. Rita is questionable. Okay. But did call Hanan did he or did he not say he's doubtful to play that game? So quote from so the? No, I'm not. I'm waiting on Wednesday show. We got some time. We do. No one really don't. I'm just wrapping up to say, I'm going to say here is that there should have been some news from any of the beat reporters from that, hey, Morris has moved to third on the depth problem with moving Moore's of third depth Klatt. Klett home at us on not in any way. Kate the beat reporters who have no idea. There was no sign what set point. Of course. Cow Shannon didn't just to screw me. He's the beat reporters. He's crude everyone. Oh, yeah. So now it's Kyle Shanahan shop to make sure that your lineup is set. Meeting. News or knows. All right through is gonna play a game of news because I think this is news opposed to news or noise, but devante Freeman yesterday went from potentially missing week seven to being placed on injured reserves to this felt like not an about face, but a shift in his timeline. Sure. Did. I mean the news was surprising because when he went on the injury report last, the thing that caused him to miss last week's game, it was because of a bone contusion in his foot. That was the early report. And at the time, the falcons that they were not as concerned about this injury as they had meant about the knee injury that caused him to miss several weeks at the start of the season. But snuck in there over the week was that he had a groin injury added next to his name. And I think what happened yesterday and this is what often happens on the first couple of days of the week player gets evaluated star. Having conversation about how you're going to manage the injury and the Gordon injury ended up being something that was more significant got saw specialist opted for the surgery. And I think the thought there the the conversation, which is very real. Was do you play through this and try and continue to manage it as the season goes on, knowing that you may not be able to play very effectively and you're probably going to be in pain the whole time, or do you just get it addressed and still have the potential to come back later in the season, and that's what devante Freeman is opted for. So he goes on the injured reserve has the potential to return after eight weeks. So we're talking about him returning as soon as week fourteen, but it's no given at this point with Ron Freeman, if you have them you the roster spot, he stoppable, but Matthew, there's all of a sudden new focused on, yes, Kevin Coleman. But I think Edo Smith's the named were discussing even more today because Coleman has been roster. He was drafted. He has been utilized, but all of a sudden ITO Smith's can have weekly value. There's no question about it. I mean, he's had weekly value last couple of weeks. He's scored in three straight games, Sony, Michelle, David Johnson, the only two running backs that can say that. So pretty good company for him to be in there. And so I actually believe given on sort of how their Bill. And how the falcons run their offense. I kind of think ITO Smith takes over the devante Freeman rule that I don't think all of a sudden it's like that. I don't think that Coleman moves into the freemen role. And then ITO Smith moves into the into the Coleman role. Yeah, I actually, I think this is going to be much more rest of season. You prefer ITO Smith devante to tap and Goldman. I think it is close. I think I think it is close. I genuinely I genuinely do because I'll say this. I believe ITO Smith has more touchdown potential than tavern Coleman since he got his first Edo smitten plane week one. So since week two, when he first got his first carry, he leads the falcons with rushing attempts inside an opponent's ten yard line. You know what I mean? Like he's somebody that is he's built a little bit bigger than Kevin Coleman. No sure about that. Yes. Like how much bigger we talking about a little bit bigger. I don't know that he's if it feels like to me from what I've seen that they that they use him more that way. They use devante two east four to show her in fifteen pounds lighter. But yeah, he's definitely both a little bigger than him. I honestly pad. Okay, got it. I don't know. I'm just going. I like I met both of them and I'm just standing next to both them. You know, Smith struck me is bigger. I'm just, I'm going off the. He's been out. He's basically been out snapped two to one and out touched, not quite but close to two to one in the four games that have in coal, the devante Freeman has missed. Listen, I, if you're trying to talk me into a board bet some sort of Tevin Coleman with like a certain buffer of points rest of season versus ITO Smith, I'll take it dude. I like he does myth. My point was less about him like taking on the devante Freeman roll like I just think he's he. He has worked himself into almost a guarantee for between ten and twelve touches a game. Yeah, I don't. I think it's a little bit more than that. I actually I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I believe actually that in the games in which devante Freeman is not played, their snap percentage is almost equal. There touches are almost four games that devante Freeman has missed this season. Having Coleman has played one hundred sixty two snaps compared to eighty four. Smith again, the two one that I was referencing. But what about the last two that skew that skewed by like week? Two. And what's what? If what? He's like, I'm not going to be the last two games. What are the last two games? I don't have the right now. Kyle's going through. It was the game two weeks ago where they were getting blown out against the Steelers and they pulled all their starters, including that Ryan and Edo Smith played a lot this past week, ITO Smith played a comparable amount to devote to Kevin Coleman, but it has been clear to me at least that Tevin Coleman is superior in terms of usage back for Atlanta going forward over the last two weeks, Kevin Coleman has twenty touches know. Smith has seventeen so against factoring in the blowout win a couple of weeks ago. Right? Like so that's fine. If you think it's that close, that's fine. Those two games are what those who games were, what? What were those who games. Forty one seventeen Steelers masking Dana. Forty-one. Seventeen Steelers, right? And thirty four twenty nine twenty nine bucks. They. So. My that is my belief. Okay. So I think it's clearly Tevin Coleman. The rest of the way. So you think it's two to one having calm into. I mean, you know, specifically to one somewhere in that issue? Yeah, I think it's Tevin Coleman and devante Freeman, they're on the field together type split. I more confidence in in in Edo Smith here, but so let's let's do a board right here. So we gotta find a way to Jerry rig it right? Because I mean, obviously to one, you're going to give me so to you, you believe Kevin Coleman. Outscores e ITO Smith around the way to one to two want like again, eat has missed getting a lot of goal on Kerry. So like I'm saying is right. So my point is, like I said, a certain number of points rest of the season. Okay. So I bet it's like, so you think Kevin Coleman is how much I've points per game better. Seven points per game better. Some called six points per game better. So there are what ten games left in their season. There's some math on points. Mattie, more points. The rest of the way the needles Mitch. I'll take that bad. Why not? Yeah. So I say what you should start and then I'll say, I disagree. I say, Tevin Coleman. Outscores ITO Smith by sixty points. The rest of the two thousand eighteen season. I say ITO Smith is within sixty points of Tevin Coleman. The rest of the season put a board, put it on the board. What happens if one of them gets injured or they miss time or devante Freeman turns. However my point is this I have a lot more confidence than you do in tab in Colombia, the guy Cairo Santos. I'm not saying that have Komen suddenly going to, I think I think ITO Smith has a significant increase in the role, and I think this is a true running back by the. I think this is a split which is what it was, which is what it was before. Devante Freeman went down in other words, bet win for me. We'll see Cairo. Santos was cut yesterday just like a practical matter here. Like if you have been using your for the past two weeks, make sure you do not and try to grab Greg's our line. Greg, the leg young z. we toll late last week that. Signed to pick him up forty, five percent of. So I don't. They go on a buy until week. Eleven. That's pretty late. So you've got, it's not like you're picking them up and then you're having to carry two kickers like the following week. They don't go on a bye until week week, twelve of this year. So November twenty six. You get a full month and a half of Greg, the leg which point you can decide whether to keep them for that by week or not. But an outstanding kicker, who was money in the Bank before his injury. This year is back marshawn Lynch has a groin issues to find out what do we know about that though, suffered, obviously, in that game in London there on a by this week, is there concern for him into week? Eight. Let sounds like Jon Gruden is expressing some concern that this could be an ongoing problem for him. If you actually go back to week one marshawn Lynch who's been on the injury report every single week. And I've kind of marveled at the fact that every week it's been a different body part for him. And obviously with the amount of work he's getting and and the wear and tear that he's had over his career. It's not. Surprising that he's on injured every week, but go back to week one. He was listed with a groin injury and it hasn't kept him out of the game. But now there's enough concern that he's going to go get it checked out a little bit this week. So don't forget when marshawn Lynch took that year off of football, he had just come off a core muscle repair. So that actually is something that is in his relatively recent past and a groin injury is part of that core muscle group. So I, I wouldn't be surprised because back to surgeon, Bill Meyers gets it looked at and has a conversation and we'll see, we'll see what comes of it. Muslim phone by the way, because you're wondering what that buzzing is. Marshawn Lynch is said that he might be my if it's probably my wife calling you, marshawn Lynch is that he is not going to. He does not intend to play when the raiders moved to Vegas. We know that like the end of their career is coming soon. Now that won't be necessarily next year. But like if there's a possibility that marshawn Lynch hangs him up, literally hangs him up again after this season. You wonder if this is the kind of injury this it. Listen, I understand, like under normal circumstances, if I had five years left, I might repair it and just, you know, think long term, but I don't know that he's thinking is much long-term football life as many other. Some other running backs would be you understand why. So we'll see whether or not that impacts his recovery time at all here Matthew, but who will be the next man up like we have any feel on this whatsoever. I look my my belief is if suddenly marshawn Lynch were out for the year, Doug Martin would be between the tackles guy, but I think who you'd want fantasy wise Jay's Jalen Rashard chart who's come on and he's the pass catching back. He's the guy that they use when they've been getting down. And so for me, I'd rather I don't think Doug Martin's any good is personally, and I also think he'd suggest as much. Yeah, and I don't think this defense is any good either. So the expectation is that I mean, they think is one of my concerns from our Sean Lynch moving forward. It's been, it's been a problem for his fantasy value so far this year is that when they're competitive and games, Lynch has been terrific. He's been their best offensive player. But the problem is is that they're starting to get blowed out. And so then they have to go pass heavy. And so it's been Jalen Rashard and now who knows what's going on with Amari Cooper, he's banged up and also on the trade bloc supposedly. And so as they look for pass catching weapons in Oakland, my expectation is that while Doug Martin might be the starter quote, unquote a Lynch would miss time Jalen Rashard is who you would want. Yeah, I'd agree with that because again, we talked about yesterday during the waiver wire column segment. They're so bad. They're going to be playing from behind a ton in Rashard has been their best me. He. Seriously been their second. Most targeted pass catcher this. You're only chaired cook has seen more targets than Jaylen Rashard. I've got thirty one catch. That's also a second on the team. I will say this devante Freeman going on injured reserve with a groin injury that they're going address surgically. If the timetable would be essentially the same, if marshawn Lynch were to have to do the same thing up in there will certainly follow as the raiders get back from a by next week and perhaps get more information later on this week. Last piece of news before we get to some rankings. Evan Ingram is back at practice in angling towards a week, seven return a Monday night football on you some good news for the giants tight end, and we saw him pop up a little bit in practice last week, and there was there was conversation early that he might try and go last week. They had a short week. He was going to go. The thought was that he would go full speed and practice on Tuesday that didn't end up happening still soreness in the knee. So they scaled him back, pulled him out Wednesday, knowing it was going to be a short week. We'll naive factor in. He's had like that additional ten days recovery. So I would say, well, it's going to be eleven because it's Monday night football, right. So by the time it rolls around, I think you can be fairly certain that you're going to see Evan Ingraham this week, difficult decision to find players. He's a really good player. It's a really good matchup right back inside your lineup, put him out. Yeah. I mean, I understand the concerns on e. y. who's looked brutal, but one of the things that so extra time to prepare for this game. And getting a talented pass catcher like Evan Ingram back certainly would help certainly is going to help ally manning look a little bit better. Oh Eli, Manning's been terrible, but he has at least two hundred fifty passing yards in five straight games for fantasy football. At least there's some yardage to go round and players like Kevin Ingram and Odell Beckham junior allied six touchdown passes during a four game stretch where he also threw for three hundred yards once in to ninety seven another occasion. Yeah, I mean, so in right? And just the falcons are one of the worst defenses in the NFL. 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He's the fourth best quarterback in total points. He missed a week there. Sure. Weeks, four through six. He's quarterback four. He took a bye in week five. Now when you throw six touchdown passes against the buccaneers that inflates everything, but he still threw for six touchdown passes. You get to count it. My expectation is going against the patriots team. That's along the tempos fantasy quarterback points this season that we expect them to put on points. Remember quarterbacks against the patriots have increased their season-long pass attempts by almost four percent. So the quarterbacks against the patriots average over thirty nine passing attempts per game. So I think you see a lot of volume here for Trubisky and it's worth noting that Trubisky I think a lot more mobile than people realize fifth, most quarterback rushing yards so far this season well hundred rushing yards over the past two weeks for Mitch. Trubisky certainly raises the floor. And again, this is probably a little bit of analysis paralysis. By now says, but if if Khalil Mack is limited or unable to play in this game, it's got an ankle injury. Obviously, the the bears defense is not go from great too terrible, but listen any. That's an impact that's the Brady has a little bit more time to throw on each snap and he might be able to put up a few more points against an excellent bears defense, and they might have to throw to keep up the other most popular streaming quarterback option of the week is Baker Baker, Mayfield y'all. He has the best matchup at least so far this season by going up against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers you and I haven't ranked just ahead of bitch Trubisky. This is the window for Baker to make it happen. Well, it's not just this week, but it's the next four weeks. AM sort of you look at the upcoming schedule for the Cleveland Browns, and it's nothing short of amazing. Literally, the four worst teams in the NFL against the pass are who the Browns play next Tampa Bay Pittsburgh, Kansas City Atlanta yet those the next territorial in the bottom five of your defenses? Yeah, it's it's, it's literally, it's it's great. And one of the things that you like here, fourth most pass attempts over the last three weeks. So he is talking needs three games yet. So he is just chucking at a ton. Now when you throw it, somebody needs to catch it and you know, Tonio Calloway specifically not helping like the drops are brutal there actually dropping a league high eight point, nine percent of his targets. Yup. Over his three starts, you have to figure that regresses the mean somewhere. Like at some point, something starts happening in a positive way here. So given the volume, his talent and and knowing that we believe have they will put a points on Cleveland. They who's a bit of a shootouts to find you. And he's developing a little. The report with Joko is starting to mesh, I think. And I think that. This is the kind of football game that if you're a like a non vested interest party, you really enjoy this game. Like it's gonna be fun. Like I envisioned this being as Matthew said, a high scoring affair between two teams who only see each other every four years on the schedule rotation with a former number one overall, pick and Jameis Winston and the current number one overall pick and Baker Mayfield both look irrelevant. All of us are looking forward to that one where two quick break and come right back with our running back chatter. You know, what's not smart. The way hiring used to be job sites that overwhelm you with tons of wrong resumes. Now, there's a smarter way at ZipRecruiter dot com. Slash six. Oh one. Oh, tip recruiter's, powerful matching technology finds the right people for you and actively invites them to apply. It's no wonder that ZipRecruiter's rated number one by employers in the US. And right now, my listeners can try ZipRecruiter for free at ZipRecruiter dot com slash oh six. Oh one. Oh, that's ZipRecruiter dot com. Slash the numbers. Oh, six. Oh, no. All right now for a quick word from this week's ZipRecruiter smartest fan of the week, hey, this is Gary Wallis, visit recruiter, smart as fan of the week. And I wanna give shout out to Ted Ginn and the Cincinnati. Now back to the shell. I don't get what the beach for just can't. Running back Frank to, here's what makes fantasy football difficult is amazing by the way that as much as like Ted Ginn and Cincinnati Bengals like I've never ranted about them the way I did. About them. Like, I mean, yeah. I was tempted not to come in today. I'm just like, what am I should just I should never go back to the pod Cowburn Moore's my favorite player by the way. Trolling, I'll be trolling. There'll be a lot of it. It's not going to go away. Like a temporary. And rolled them for you. This hour. Alfred Morris, get twenty five carries this week. All right. Let's get back to the running back. Awesome. We've got offered more inside of tough fifteen, but Matthew, oddly enough has at fifty seven. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Sorry, could help folk the bear little right there marking really difficult to assess what Mark Ingram will be. Not because he wasn't awesome. Last week. He was amazing. Return back in week five. When you scored two touchdowns got the opening play for saints. I know you're where my point is this though is that there are a lot of scientists suggests that that game could be the outlier as opposed to what we could see this weekend. Right? Like Alvin Kamara was basically not used crack, expect Kamera to be the workhorse back. So here's how we have Ingram, ranked thirteenth for me, fifteenth to seventeenth. Matthew devante. You gotta figure even difficult matchup that it's going to be a lot more Alvin Kamara little bit less margin, but still good enough to play. I looked at these to the way I saw them play out last year and then multiple games together. And we talked about this being tandem, one of the few. Tandems in the NFL were both running backs. Could be starters for you weekly marking grim and Alvin Kamara were both ranked in the top fifteen last year, six different times. And those six games came with a nine week stretch week seven to fifteen. So if you look at it now we're about at that same time frame where they're starting to get together and you have the potential for both of them to be top fifteen running backs, any given week of the season. So I still think Alvin Kamara has the edge. I think that part was the outlier of last week, but they Mark Ingram is still really strong play going forward. I think the jury is still out on on both. I think to your point, he certainly could be they both. We could have see to top fifteen running back from that offense. There's no question about that. I'm not convinced this week. I mean, I'm I'm at seventeen on him. I'm the lowest of the three of of us. And candidly, I think I might be too high on him at seventeen. I'm nervous about this match debt, bad natural against the ravens. The fifth, most efficient red zone defense this season. They're allowing thirteen point four fantasy points to opposing running backs this year. No running back. No single running back has scored even thirteen points against the ravens here. The highest scoring running back against Baltimore. This year was Royce Freeman, twelve point, eight. If Mark Ingram scored thirteen point, four fantasy points against the ravens this week to the highest going running back to face Baltimore all year long based on last week scoring. He would have been running back seventeen thirteen point. Four would've been running back seventeen last week. So thinking about defining deployment, the majority of what his value came from last year was touchdown. He was very touched on dependent for his for his fantasy value because chimera was the guy that was getting all the yards. All the catch is everything like that towards the second half of the season. Mark Ingram was having twelve carries a game, right? Like his usage went down once album. Chimera sort of exploded last five for Mark Ingram. He's averaging two point nine three yards per carry that includes the playoff game. That includes the blow against my Redskins. His been particularly efficient what you're hoping for remarking visiting falls, which obviously he did twice not twice. I mean, he he scored twice against the Redskins was legit run, but I, I don't know. Like I said, I think he probably got a start them based on what you saw. And given the state of the running back position. But to say that I am nervous about this hundred percent given the match given that I do think I think Alvin kamera's the best running back on that team. And I don't think it's that close. I do not disagree with anything. You said this is a sort of fantasy, but maybe not entirely fantasy. Observation is I'm really interested to watch this ravens defense this week. They have played a couple of good offenses, the Steelers and the Bengals they got waxed by the Bengals in that game, Steelers did a great job containing them, but short weekend. This is their this is their most difficult test by far this season, even though they're playing at home and it's also the saints most difficult test of the season. So I gained that I think is sort of a litmus saints, two weeks to prepare for this one, but it is to your point it is at home. So what we certainly interesting and worth noting, of course that the ravens defense at the start of the did not have Jimmy Smith, yes, is important piece of that defense. So we talked about this for quite a bit off the top of the show, the Tevin Coleman. E-e-e-e-no Smith divide. In Atlanta, but let's just put a bow on it for weeks, seven Pacific to our ranks Matthew have, here's that we have having Coleman. I'll go down the line me at sixteen Matthew at nineteen to find you at ten and then ITO Smith. Again, Dan line me at thirty eight, Matthew twenty six to find you at forty six to find you. And I feel like if he has fallen into the end zone for three straight games, but that might be what it takes for him for cash in fantasy relevance. This week. I part of it was the matchup part of the fact that I know he he has. He has the lead job. There's no devante Freeman coming in this week. It's going to be seven Coleman. Yes, eater Smith is going to take some of the work, but I still think is still in the camp that Tevin Coleman is the more featured back and it's the, it's the run defense of the giants. Like I just think it's a great matchup for him. So it was. It was pretty easy for me to see him have the potential to go into the top ten at harder for the falcons years. They haven't had a chance to really have a game or Tevin Coleman or devante Freeman for that matter could just run it running and running. More often playing other from behind or it's like we're one two hundred miles an hour to stave off the truck. That's going on hundred ninety five miles an hour Matthew. But again, you seem to think that Smith's going to have enough of a role mayor to flex play. Yeah, I mean, so, I mean, we're all defined by far the highest on Tevin, but we all have him. As has Rb one, but we all you and I both have MRs starters while you have in common at sixteen nineteen. So none of us are saying, benched heaven Coleman. I think. But yes, I am putting my money where my mouth is until my ranks reflect the fact that I think it is a much closer split between these two, the new guys. And so give you couple of thoughts here in these things. I probably should've mentioned we were discussing earlier, right, but to the point of in terms of snaps and touches between the two when you're talking about like he's played twice as many snaps he's played, you know, almost twice as many touches as well. If you look at their touch percentage in terms of win, they're actually in the game ITO Smith touching the ball and forty five percent of his plays, Tevin Coleman, forty percent of his so somewhat in terms of their using Evan Kohlmann in areas where they're not getting the ball team, whether it's pass protection, or you know, or a running routes as sort of a decoy. If you will, what, what are happy. But I do think which has the better chance at scoring the touchdown think it's either Smith. Okay. I think there's a rushing touchdown. Here. I think ITO Smith has the best chance. Again, he's he's got the most red zone snap. Most red zone carries has got the most carries inside an opponent's ten yard line since week. Two. He has scored in three straight games. Kevin Coleman hasn't rushed for touchdown since week. One. In this in this game here. So so for me, I don't know. I just, I don't know. It'll we'll see what the game flow is, but I have a feeling Atlanta's gonna get a big, and then there's gonna be a whole lot of running, which is like that. That is also an entirely possible last week. The giants are allowing the ninth most fantasy points to opposing running backs as well. I think there's a chance for both guys to have good fantasy days here. So. Like, like I said, how do you. We have a board bed already. How do you see this? Let's say there's thirty touches total between the two running backs in terms of past catches and runs in this game. How do you see those thirty? See? I would say it's like sixteen fourteen of seventeen thirteen. Maybe something like that. I ten is my you would say twenty ten? Yeah, Kevin Coleman. Good players, certainly motive. He's got twelve games or ten games. I'm sorry until free agency. I think he wants to cash in and make good on what has been. What is an opportunity for him not a golden opportunity because devante Freeman to put an opportunity for him, but really cash. It weird part is that I agree with you in the sense that I think Kevin Komen's good player. I don't think he's really shown at this year. I think he's right. I mean, he, he's been inconsistent. It listen, this is there's a lot goes into this stat, right? It's not just all on him, but he's averaging three point seven yards per carry. You take out that thirty six yard carry against Carolina in week, two drops down to three point two, right? He's got one sort of outlier carry that you drop out the outline carrying. He gets to eat, oh, Smith level of three point two yards per carry. So one of them scoring touchdowns though. I mean, like they seem to have put they. They like ITO Smith in that role, and I don't think that's only goes away now the devante Freeman, we will find out. Certainly they both have three touchdowns for the record by the way, they're both going touchdown so far this year to Rico and for the patriots. He is coming in at Matthews. Twentieth ranked running back. I've got him at twenty three's to find you Hasim at twenty eight. It's not so much that we disagree on to Recode. It's more noting. Just how much of a running back split. This is right now in Chicago, Matthew. I have ITO Smith, hang on for second. I wanna do this one more time. I'm going to double down on this. You have ITO Smith at thirty eight. I have him at twenty six, correct. I say ITO Smith is a top thirty fantasy running back this week, so I'm giving the split on my side. I'm giving you more cushion here. Sure. What the heck, why not? I don't know. I mean, I, I wanna give you at least a couple of -tunities to get blown out events. Events journal head some giving my STAN stocks stand socks by the way. What I don't don't get me started on the stance stocks. That's a, that's a I'll make. I thought for sure that I had already. I had already sent things along how many pairs Matthew? Oh, you like that's the question. I have cashed it on one pair, but I have not. I've won a second pair since. Oh gosh, Matthew quit losing pairs of socks. Thank you. I say enough about a top thirty running back in week seven. I say ITO Smith is a top thirty running back in week seven put on board what it on the board. Let's move to Rico in now because we have them all in a similar territory twenty for you. Matthew twenty three for me, it's you has at twenty eight. We all feel as though this is sort of running back, not this isn't running back, split in Chicago, and there's some discouraging signs for those that roster Jordan Howard. Yeah, there are last two games to Recode playing almost as many snaps Jordan Howard. It's sixty four fifty nine split. For Howard and his headless touches Jordan. Howard twenty five touches the last two games to Ricco in has thirty two. And in fact, the last two games in terms of touch percentage in terms of when they're on the field, how often do they touched the ball when they're actually on the field cones at fifty, four percent Jordan Howard just thirty nine percent. And honestly, if you just think about the eye test, you're just watching these games. The offense is starting to look like what we imagined it would look like in the preseason her Matt Nagy like, and you know, trubisky's playing better. They're they're scheming guys into space. They're using the ups that they can get with the speed of tayla Gabriel and Tariq Cohen. Like it's just like one of these things is not like the other one of these things doesn't belong and it's plotting Jordan Howard, not all these speedy guys that they've got out there. Yeah, I know it's, it's it's he is a better fit. Like I don't wanna say Jordan. Howard is a square peg trying to be jammed into a round hole because there's a good play right hitting physical guy. We like Jordan. How ratings however. It's pretty clear to us that Torri Cohen's more explosive player in Jordan. Howard, like the quickest way to lose trust of a coaching staff is six inch line last week, so it's possibly like what I what I like to call a Kenyan Drake king, right? Yeah, yeah. The Drake, two guys that came very close, very close to scoring into, not obviously do not come close enough cash in. So yes, we've, I don't go ahead. Sorry, finish three comb will never have this job unto himself, right? I mean, like pint-size and Jordan. Howard is valuable enough, but it's more about like what it takes away from Jordan Howard as opposed to what to recover. Well, venture, he'll ever be one. I don't think our books are in our ranks, I should say, but it's going to be careful for Jordan Howard because if the if the goal line touches start to go elsewhere, that's the problem and that that is that is correct. The other thing is sort of think about how this game plays out against New England, and we expect some scoring, you know, especially given, you know that there's a chance Khalil Mack dozen plan this game. And so the bears. Offense, maybe not as strong as it is. And so as it has been so far this year, Miami sort of expose them a little bit last week. And so. When you got when you've got a score to keep up with Tom brain in the patriots, you're probably doing it. You know, with three Cohen, no doubt about that. Let's move along to our passage, but I live read from Matthew berry. My live read is from Lexus. Why don't we start betting lets us can we do that? Do that? Can will Lexus pony up for that. If we just give us some lexuses Tabet back and forth, yell, I'll I'll make some calls, see what I can do call on and see if we can make that happen. That would be cool anyway, a while we're waiting to see whether you and I could bet lexuses it would be a lot of fun. This is the kind of car that's defining drives. The all new Lexus ES Fs sport is here like it's a high end card. It's the kind of car that star fine. You would allow to be seeing that you would be also writing. Yeah, I mean, also writing. That's right. It's always as those defined and then also writing Matthew berry Lexus is taken everything they've ever mastered and put it in the ES, daring design, imaginative technology, dynamic performance because crafting every detail to surpass expectations means nothing. If it doesn't lead to the experience of something greater. 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It can automatically break the vehicle to stop lane departure, alert with steering assist and so much more. It's a better car than you deserve. Let's be perfectly honest about this, but why not get it every curve. Every innovation, every feeling a product of mastery experience. Amazing at your Lexus dealer and field. Elite leap picks is brought to you by Lexus, and we know Matt who that when he's healthy, t y, Hilton is always an elite pick for the colts offense, but defined you against this bills defense that has been pretty competitive good. What do we know on availability? We don't know anything definitive and hasn't been spotted a practice, but as you know, that doesn't mean that he's not working diligently behind the scenes. Keep in mind. This is the same colts team that kept Marlin MAC out until they were really, really confident in his health, especially because. First time he dipped his toe back in the pool had a little bit of a setback with the hamstring. So with TY Hilton being speed guy, the finesse wide receiver that's going to go. That's going to be needed for the deep ball pass from Andrew luck. You don't want him out there before you're confident that you're at least in the very low end of risk and suffering a setback. That being said, my understanding is these making good progress. And so you just watch the practice reports. You see them start to get out there a little bit this week, even if he's listed as limited. I think there's a chance that TY could play this week. So I ranked him understanding. There was a possibility that he might be available this week, but it could come down to the wire very good news right there. Matthew, I don't mean I don't wanna make it too simple, but let's say that on Sunday he is going to play. We are probably going to vouch for having him in a line of we understand that even if he doesn't, even if he does play, he might not be one hundred percent, but TY quick strike master. He is. I mean, it's it's not a great match up to make your I get your first game back here against the bills. Yeah. We expect a shadow from Tadeusz white bills allowed the third fewest deep completions that season. They have yet to allow a deep touchdown pass. One of only three defenses in the NFL to say that they think about the Andre Hopkins against Davies, white and the bills. Last week, five, five catches six on six targets sixty three yards that was a season low for de'andre Hopkins. So I agree with you, but I have Hilton at twenty. I think easy borderline starter, but it's not somebody that I'm playing in daily for example. And yeah, I mean, you'd be you'd be nervous. You would have to lower expectations. One more here in Josh Gordon. Really. What this is about is the encouraging signs. We saw last week against the Kansas City Chiefs. He did not make did not cash in nine point, two fantasy points. I think it wasn't total for Josh Gordon, but so many calls Stein. So many positons probably could have had a touchdown, drew a defensive pass interference at the one yard line had another targets Hassen. So we're all excited about what Josh Gordon can be in his patriots offense. This bears defense is. Joke. We talked about that or ready, but here's what we have, Josh Gordon ranked for this week. Twenty-three for Matthew twenty two for me sixteen force to find you. You know, there's a chance to that. He already led the patriots wide receivers and snaps, but it could get to the point that he becomes a basically every down player for them. Right. I mean, if you look at just the route percentage by week with the patriots about twenty five percent in week four forty percent week five over ninety two percent in week six. I think that's a function of his health. We talked about how they would contain him not have as many snaps as many rows fron and also contain the distances essentially. So have him in there where there was no danger that he would go out for a deep pass and run the risk of a setback. And they seem to basically care let the reins go last week. So all of a sudden now Josh Gordon being released and you're soom. He came out of the game, no worse for the where he looked good playing. I think that was sort of the signal that he's ready to go and they're not gonna hold him back. In Coachella check a few in his praise saying, quote, I. I would just say his roles expanding weekly, and we'll see how it all plays out. Basically. I mean, that's. Four. I'm throwing the ball to this guy every single play that I mean on like western graduate Bill bell check Wesley phrase. Right Bill check went to Wesleyan too. Yeah. It's a small college go by the cardinal now as not talks about Scott doesn't credible and be so yeah, he Josh Gordon daily, the patriots and route Tron last week target with nine. There's so many cursing signs, maybe maybe he soon becomes a fixture as a top twelve fifteen eighteen play in our wider physical. He like just the buzz about him. You know, he's just another receiver that's on the field. It's the way he makes plays. It's his physique. His super impressive. And for me, part of the reason I'm so high emissions, the upside factor, I think that he could blow up your fantasy team in a good way. He has that potential. I'm slightly outside my top twenty just because of all the other weapons of the of the Brady the patriots have and the bears have been good at home this year. No breaking news media just gonna pass along on a ton of fantasy, but Derek Anderson we'll start for the bills this weekend. No surprise. They are. Josh Allen has the elbow injury. The real question was whether will be Derek Anderson or Nathan Peterman. And also just since you mentioned that Mike rodak just reporting that this elbow sprain that he's dealing with there is not going to be surgical, but he is going to be weak tweet is who week Derek Anderson a better choice than Nathan Peterman, but the colts remain a very good streaming defense for the week, they sure do. I have only fifteen second you about sport clips haircuts, but sports on TV original MVP haircut experience in the online check in means you don't have to think about where you're at ever ever again, just do it claim your spot today. Sportclips dot com. Slash check in trust me. It is worth your time. Are we have a special guest joining the podcast, and I can't remember if we already announced it earlier on in the week yesterday we talked about it yesterday. Listen, I'm like you. I have short term with these podcasts pleasure to join us on the line yet or now we. Official title. We're going to call the boss of times who has a hedge out on this already know and then you probably can't see it. It says, ESPN superstar. Meena kinds joins. The show that is I've been, I've nice to meet for a long time, and it's this reason. And this reason only eventually we're all working for her. So the fact of the matter is I'm just trying to get in good now before she rules us all the great meantime. That's right. Who has a new podcast and mean if you could, would you be so kind of to indulge us and tell us all about this fancy new podcast that we're going to help you with the title some point soon. It is the meantime show now. Really. Wow, that's going out on yourself. A team of writers work on that where you know Lenny worms his way in and I love letters actually new art with Lenny in it. Well, he is a star is born, but I'm clearly living out a star is born scenario right now with my own dog, but I'm so repeater longtime. This analogy probably I shouldn't follow it to a couple of. Just. Okay. You know, I see us more as like a Alex Smith, Patrick Mahomes situation where Lenny's just biding his time and what's going to happen. Cast. He's gonna have ages. Graham page. Is there a come out every single week at the same date and time. And what sort of the gist of the podcast, at least in the football season? Yes. So it's it comes out every Thursday. We might add another day at some point, but it is just kinda previewing the weekends games talking about some of the storylines I want to talk about usually talking about Thursday night football, and it's been fun. I've had a variety of guests. Maybe some people from this show could join me at some point. Overall gonna we're all going to now it's going to be a little competition to see who gets. I, yeah, right. All of us are willing to commit pod Daltry on your show. Just just say, just say the word. Well, I'm excited about this because for anyone in our audience that and I don't know how someone in audience is not familiar with me, but she does such a great job on so many platforms. She's she's a terrific writer. She is terrific on TV. She's great on radio. I'm so excited about this new podcast as well. And if anyone and honestly her best platform might be social. Good. As you are field on Twitter meantime, crushes you she, she might be the best follow on Twitter out there at times. And so if anyone that doesn't follow me on Twitter, you may not know, but she's hard Seattle Seahawks fan. So let's talk a little bit about your Seahawks here. Meena and yesterday I went on an epic ran. And so instead of asking you a specific question is yours yours to do the same about your Seahawks. On Austin. One question if you don't, if you don't want to just rant, how do you see Russel Wilson who I've actually texted about this. Sure. No, but so Russell's institutionally, a slow starter seem to have a little bit of success recently as well, but he's not running like, how do you see Russel Wilson and this passing offense coming out of the bye. Well, the last couple of weeks have been really encouraging, but the opponents are about to get a lot tougher. I will say that, but for Seahawks fans, a lot of the frustration has been around the offensive coordinator, Brian Schottenheimer who insists on running this nineteen ninety-five offense, right? The fact that they haven't used or didn't use until recently play action despite the fact that Russell Wilson is incredible and the fact that he barely runs now, okay, which is from from a fancy perspective, a lot of value is come from there in the past. He does not want to keep the ball and some of that is by offense design, but some of it when you watch the games, you see Russel Wilson making decision either not to keep or to barely scramble an inside, right? So I don't foresee that changing until maybe later in the season if things get a little bit desperate. But his sort of approach has been changing that said, I am optimistic about the offense based on what we've seen over the last few games. They seem to have found a somewhat successful formula and it doesn't Volve him. Passing, even though they have the lowest run past bound leans more towards the run than any team in the entire league right now. So I I'm still optimism that he's going to turn things around, but is he a tough five tops having? I don't think so. Beyond that with the running back to get back, they're not to be labor the point there, but we've been surprised by the lack of shod penny to this point. He had nine carries and this last game in London. Do you foresee a scenario where he could make markan jump Mike Davis on the depth chart, or maybe even be the starter. Oh, you mean it might not have been a good idea to spend a first round pick on a running back. All right. I feel that we were together at the draft and I think you saw the terror wash over my face. Got the news before me. I did swear. I did swear. Listen, I, I do not think that we're going to see a ton of Rashad penny in the near future. For the reason you just mentioned, it's not Chris Carson, it's my Davis is being targeted more as a receiver. Right? And he's been very effective right? Reshad penny hasn't shown anything better in my opinion than either of these backs. He's also still a bit of a liability in the blocking game. So I think it's going to be a slow process of working him in to this offense, and it's going to be very frustrating for fantasy owners. Well-made. Only a forty Niners fan in feel worse than sea hawks fan. So I, I will offload you there after I'm still I'm still recovering from Monday night where we almost almost pulled it off. Yeah. And we have one of yours. Even though we have. Pat on the net is what that was. She's right. They look at that that they still lost. But so speaking of losses, how. How do we get you? And I out of the the loss column in our women's league teams. You actually been bouncing back though, I know is a little bit of rough, go at the beginning. And interestingly, by the way, Daniel created two divisions and he put me in one is called the forty Niners mean it and the other. It's called the Seahawks and we are performing up to expectations. Are we not? I am three and three now I don't know if Daniel can I disclose this as whatever you need to disclose Meena. Okay. So I was I was in Greenland during the draft and Daniel drifted my team. No. I mean, I know you were halfway around the world, but very detailed sheet that she gave me of like, this is what you're doing. You're talking try to undo the Basle happens on this podcast. Know what I did. I did ask for Chris cars, not as a top pick, but antilock at which really pay dividends. This us weak and I'm feeling pretty good about while we're on the topics. Do. Have the bell Connor tandem on my team. Having those two backs means this week they're both on by. So I have been scrambling added Marlin MAC, which feeling pretty good about. Shouldn't last week you guys feeling good about that desperation heave for Frank gore, feeling good about that. The ageless wonder Franko former forty, nine or Franco impressed that you were willing to allow that on your team, but actually mean a you and I have the same record were decidedly mediocre at three and three in the women's league, so, but it's great to have your presence that I can't tell you all the all the women who play in the league were so excited. That meantime was going to be part of the competition this year and and by the way you guys may not know this, but Meenhan I used to do Sunday radio show together before she was big, famous, big star and all that. And yes. Well, as she should and you write the person who came in last among the folks who were on air in that group had to write a rap and guess who had to write the rep may but Meena you, you rap. I perform the route. Audio, she didn't perform it. She crushed crushed. How about that? I to be played. So secret schools. I wrote about my pal Meena and I was trying. I told her, I try. So the thing I was most nervous about besides forming a rap on air on national radio was impressing Meena with the written word. I mean, it was nervous jerk, but like it's defined your crusher in the sense like the bar was a song Bingley. Who has. Crush relative to our or to crush it like she? Yeah, she got through like Eminem at the end of eight mile. Or was this just like like an eighth grader like this is like. No, no, I got to stand up for you. It was so good. Everybody's jaws dropped in the studio. We nobody knew what to talk about next. So junior was there he was, he bore witness to it. We'll audio of this and we will play it. But I mean, we know you have to go because you are taping the next episode of the podcast. We had all sorts of alternate titles for you like not bootleg need a false start. We had. Doing? Yeah, go exotic smashmouth was one thrown out that I decided. One question for you. Go was Lenny. Complicit. No. Lenny was not complicit meeting kind great. Go finder on Twitter and Instagram at Meena kinds m. i. n. a. k. I m. e. s. download and subscribe to her podcast. It'll be worth your time. Thank you Meena. Guys. There you go. There you have the great meantime time now is talent. New York Times bestselling author, Matthew berry with another self-serving self-indulgent all about need promo. The NBA season started yesterday we're about to get into week seven of the NFL season. I mentioned this yesterday wanna a mentioned again, rodeo, daily dot com. 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Oh, in order to be your tag team partner in a wrestling match, who would you choose the wrestling name? Be? First one says, I would definitely pick Daniel not only because he looks apartment because lions fans have that deep, deep, sadness, and rage in the bowels of their psyche, and he could call on that desperate nothing to lose the Dopp of Detroit. PS theory also works for not cool kief, but he doesn't seem to have any closet rage to call upon. That's true. Non Keith is the most stable. Nicest low though, if you ever seen Keith when he's like refereeing or he's playing in like one of his league sport, there's a competitor, he's better. You might be able to extract that one game with key sometime. What else do you Daniel? That one came from Tyler Henderson by the way to start Tyler. Right. All right. But I. I like the pit of sadness or whatever it is you have. So this one says. I would choose Mike clay, aka the Klay q. later tag team finishing move is the projection connection through the opponent off the top ropes and upon their return. I lift the opponent up into the air and the Klay Kya later then leaps into the air to performing neck breaker like the three d. I don't know who three years that's a wrestler solo, finishing move would be diamond elevators too. Solo finishing mood the number cruncher which would be tombstone piledriver on Mike Claes algorithm filled computer. My goodness from a run Kanji IRA. Okay. Not bad, right? They're not very descriptive, right? Yeah, very descriptive. All right. This one comes from Austin Riley. I would choose Matthew based solely on the idea that Matthew's dad body render him nearly a mobile in the ring, leaving him as a human punching bag for the other team to waste all their energy on. While I finally get tagged in spry full of pep, I will be able to evade all of the opponents and defeat them do their exhaustion. And his wrestling name of course, would be the Big Ben. Yay. I wait for that line delivery headband. Good, good. All right. This next one is from Evan Nogi the question obviously. So same, the wrestling partner, if of course, Stephania bell would be my pick tag team wrestling partner or what better? What would be better than the six os rose between two thorns taking a, he'll turn intimate knowledge of the human body would allow us to inflict maximum damage on our foes and our signature move. The bell ringer, involve both a groin and a finger tweak when she's really backed into a corner. We'd employ the cone, the perfect hamstring based move that would leave our opponents, begging for a recall hauling ourselves. The ding dongs. We take foes from far and wide from Farmington to Bristol, San Francisco, to Princeton from Miami to Kansas. I fan. It was not bad. That's not bad, either ding Dong. All right. We got three more between two thorns reference. Patrick making, he'll turn if I had to pick a member of the tag team partner, it would have to be Matthew because I would need someone with a girthy or stature to balance my small but cut physique. Our wrestling names would naturally be the hustle. Hamster shadow to the Sono and the kills berry Doboy. Hustle. Hamster in this. Yeah, hustle killed that. Patrick. This comes from Ethan Risley's. I would have to choose Daniel. It'd be my tag partner, secret squirrel, Daniel Dopp, and Ethan the grizzly Ridgely fighting in the main event together as the untameable animal brothers, we would be the perfect team, but not because not only do we have matching beards, but we both already have animal themed nicknames that right into the wrestling world, and we should have love a band that no one has ever heard of. We would destroy not only destroy our opponents, but we would take the WWE tag team championship. And so secret squirrel get ready because we need to practice our signature move mauled by a squirrel that is from Ethan the grizzlies bald by a squirrel. And this last one is from Robert Anthony. The we ever find out what by the way on model and how people what was the poll results on Modlin I'll have him up all. I'm finishing this for Kyle Stein. Keep track of all these tag team partner. Couldn't be Matthew eight. The pasty Pastori. He doesn't hustle hustle enough and he'd be too lethargic from consuming too many Benes pasty pastry as what you meant, what I street, the pasty pastor. Past tomato, potato, St. pastry. All right. All the truth, though, field, aka the Wesleyan weasel like that. Oh, that's a big thing that might stick that may fit by the way. Hugh probably cower in fear all while yelling, not in the face, not in the face segment tomorrow. Oh, I like that. That's, that's pretty good start so far. This one choosing Dopp aka fits tragic because the beard makes them look like he can legitimately fight, but well, you know, he can't right. He might have been solid choice. If you didn't look like a slack jawed clerk at your local guitar center. You do sort of look. Join us one. That leaves me with my clear choice Stefan ako a aka the Widowmaker ooh, because she know all the ligaments and pressure points to go for to bring on with the giants to the world to their knees. Let's the peace can use Mel, what the widow maker is cooking for ya. That's how yes that's Robert. Anthony laugh the most at that one. I mean it was funny all the way through. I feel like we had underwhelming responses relative to previous fans of the week. There. A lot of effort though. I don't. I don't want to. I mean people a lot effort into, we know I know, but we didn't have the knee Buckler. Right. I mean, I thought the last one was really funny. I laughed it. You know every every day every name in there was funny. The might my favorites. Yep. I think we have to right. Well, there were there were a couple. I thought the dad, the big bang yai. The Big Ben. Yeah. Was funny. I thought the hustle hamster kills very Doboy was funny in the last one and the last man. Worn down to those three then what do we say? Well, I vote for the Widowmaker. Okay. Man. Choose between these ding-dong of, sorry, the dad Bod and the hustle Hampshire slash kills very Doboy. Which would you choose that? We can put it up to that versus the woulda maker. How about that? I think I would go with hustle. Hamster kills very Doboy dad Bod a Big Ben. Yay is really just about the big band. Yeah, it was the one line that was a good at the other one throughout. So. Yeah, still use hash big Benji. Kills berry Doboy versus the Widowmaker my vocals for that would've maker. I think mine does too. There you go Widowmaker you're the ZipRecruiter smartest fan of the week, Robert, Anthony. Congratulations. I'm really excited because it's Witter handle is at goldenvoice guy. Oh, there's a law sang to. Okay, really quickly. You got next week's question for the smartest fan of the ZipRecruiter the week, zombie apocalypse breaks out and you have to choose one member of the six zero to be your survival buddy. Who are you choosing and why? Very appropriate for the Halloween. I party for us here, bad guys, like literally none of your getting any moats on this one. I was literally like a commando in the military. What are you talking about when his ambi- apocalypse comes? I'll just I'll tell you, I'm just to, but when his ambi- Bach lives comes, what do you want with your buddy? Right? You want somebody that zombies can get before they can get. That's me at the slow one, right. And by the way, when does ambi- couple apocalypse comes like zombies are going to be in the restaurants, grocery stores. You need to eat something who you gonna wanna eat me. I've got the, I got meat around the bones. Like I'm obviously the tastiest of the four of us. So it's this propaganda now doing this, Matthew, let them decide on their own answers will have for you next Wednesday. Before we got here. Daniel, what he got sixty percent sixty four percent of the people knew the word math modeling modeling by Matthew. Captured. I said, maudlin and no one knew what that meant to find you. I'm impressed with your your word of the day. Yes, exactly. Westbound education does not doing it for you. We are back on Thursday with the preview of cardinals and Broncos. Perhaps the game of the year. She's defined yet underscore ESPN on Twitter to find you eighty-seven on Instagram, Matthew Barrett, TM Arnold formed social media except for the fantasy life. Happy at math berry. My name's that dates back tomorrow. Peace out. Six. You guys go ahead. Give me for being on sportscenter for forty, five seconds. Jan. Your terrible at Pash tag, improv. Feel. Fun. Berry convert. Fantasy over the then.

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Week 3 Buy or Sell + Lets Talk Trades, Jason Gets Snaked

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Yeah Different Joke made a AH yeah goulet meant an orange is just an orange. Oh yeah that one's real easy blue violet. You're turning into yeah. This is really I'll see my side. Oh no you're wondering if the show Jason Good friend he owns part of the company Mike Light well good friend of the show and a good friend of me. I'm not surprised you guys are friends. After yesterday's trade fiasco someone went undercover brother with the footage and they just like you went full Antonio Brown. You just recorded Jason's reaction action. Jason had no idea I'm GONNA put this up. That's great. That's illegal first of all. Whether you did is illegal now. I loved it. Oh and now you're Jon Gruden I'm in. It was great if you don't know what we're talking about. Are you going to put that up on Youtube on Youtube. Yeah I tweeted it out and I saw you re tweeted at mercifully instead of filing a lawsuit lawsuit against me. Yes today's show. It's perfect because today show's all about trades. We're GONNA answer a bunch of trade questions with some some big names. It's it's kind of the breather day over the course of the week we just reflected and did the waiver wire and talked about week to tomorrow. Friday into the matches for week three today. We've got some buy sell. We've got trade talk and so yesterday in our League of record I I just tell tell it how it is our League of records to three-keeper keep relief. This'll this'll be a peek behind the curtain right more. Antonio Brown talk wizard of Oz Peek behind the curtain but we basically have this league where there's a lot of draft pick. Trading people sell their future draft in order to acquire a big asset this year. There's three keepers in the league. The economy of this league is unlike most fantasy football league. We move our trade deadline up a couple extra weeks. We have a big punishment for you know like if you finished last in this league you get you lose the water bet right but you get watered by every single person in the league in a turtleneck sweater a turtleneck sweater and then have to draft for three four hours soaking looking wet in a turtleneck sweater with your name with your team stitched onto the back of it so we're in this league and I'm negotiating and apparently apparently Jason's negotiating at the same time and we're both trying to acquire Patrick Mahomes and I was going after Kris Carson basically trying to go all in on this season and make a commitment commitment to make my team stronger. The Padma homeowner basically said he's on the Block yes oh we both went to work as we do and it looked things are a a lot harder for me in this league than they used to be trade. Wise people are hip. People are we. We have a show now that that doesn't help and I basically get to the finish line on getting home Carson and and the other guy says okay i Mike I'm on the fence. I don't know want include a pack and he says well Jason's after him and I said done deal yeah. He told me afterwards he said you have no idea how quick it was once. I told him that that uh I was that Jason was competing for home and we're division. Mate right is soon as you mentioned my name to him. You said deal. I'll do it instantly and it was instant. Yeah I did not want when I new that. You might have him instead of me it. The competitive nature took then I find out from him. I find out in that moment. He's he's traded. Pat Mahomes where I dunno to WHO. I don't know what the deal is. I know nothing little. Did I know that while I found out mahomes was traded. I am being recorded covertly by by your cell phone. Andy and I you know that there's a big deal going down. The news broke the news that there's a deal going down. Pam Homes has been traded. I'm looking andy trying to see if trying to see if it wasn't you was it was the whole thing captured on video. I freak freak out. I was upset yeah. He told me he was gonNA. Let you know and I was like I gotta get the camera role in just to see so you can see that on twitter. I'll put it on Youtube. People can enjoy the real visceral reaction of the Jason more losing a trade Andy. You WanNa see just know acting truth of passion for fantasy that is that is it well and that's what I mean. That's what this this is. All about. I mean for me. It's making you feel bad. Here's a heads up. Jake congratulations you on the Alvin. Kamara signed Jersey for listening auction Jake Jake Jake. Cle No did not win. No no you don't. I don't know if it's him or not if he did. I'm taking it away yeah one. We're keeping open. We emailed you. If you want some good articles up on the website this week snap count observations target report week to Dynasty Report it is Wednesday so let's do some buy-sell buy or sell presented by Pristine Auction. Things got real tense in the office quickly yesterday yea because what what's not being mentioned mentioned here is my cat a very overreaction to 'cause my kind of had. This got caught off. Guard didn't realize mahomes was on the block. Yeah I missed the mess and cancelled then it was like I mean you seemed a little upset. Oh No I was just upset at the at the dramatic fashion of I they came into our slack they he said there's big trade and we literally sat there for five minutes because you're over there. You won't say what the trade is and he told me let let me build the I was just trying to respect that was that was the only thing that was a noxious to be. It was like it wasn't really does I've minutes. It's very obnoxious well. I thought he might posted right away. Eventually told you just wait for my next raid. I guess people want to know what to do. You know what there's a trade now. I've made a trait. I haven't actually but you just wait okay. We'll be waiting yeah. Mike was at all Our I ended up trading four draft picks to get Ford Rafic Schuyler Murray Peyton Barber Josh Gordon to get Mahomes Carson into the draft picks in this league the economy like Mike said it's very distorted but people have asked that the most what the trade was all right by herself presented by Pristine Auction. We're doing a WIJK. Three addition brooks has titled this one. I this'll be a thing brooks. You just title them. You give them a theme. You give them a concept in and we'll go with it you name this show seven seven seven edition because this is our seven hundred and seventy seven episode of the fantasy footballers pod. Co Jackpot. Wow Yeah I would say that's how most people feel having discovered US congratulations. We're celebrating seven seven in all black. Dole Jackpot black attire tire all right Michael Thomas. Are you buying seven receptions with Teddy Bridgewater in Seattle in week. One thirteen targets ten receptions week two thirteen targets ten receptions but there's been a change of quarterback bridgewater gets it going. I'm GONNA buy it. I mean he's opened close Costa Line of scrimmage all the time. I'm not buying one hundred twenty three yards. The Seattle secondary is it's a bit rough right now. A in Thomas is going to get the targets would just you're hoping that the offense can do something with those targets yeah you're hoping that it's seven four hundred instead of seven for sixty the eight and and that's what I'm GonNa buy this as well. I think he does. He's going to be the main target still got Sean Payton orchestrating now. Sean Payton is preparing for Teddy Bridgewater water. There's really nothing you can do with Michael Thomas. When a situation like this happens or Juju you lose the quarterback benching these players you just basically have a Built-in Hilton like frustration of what he could have done. That's basically it. Juju Smith Schuster seventy seven receiving yards at San Francisco this this week. Do you buy or sell that in week. One six for seventy eight no touchdowns eight targets week to five hundred eighty four. No touchdowns on eight targets buy or sell juju seventy seven yards. I will buy it. He did most of his work with Mason Rudolph last week. I think he crosses seventy seven yards. Yeah I buy it as well. When when Rudolph came in there was a huge each target's share you will sell it. I think Richard Sherman Secondary For San Francisco locking things down Mason Rudolph having to go into San San Francisco I will. I'm going to sell that one. The forty niners are baffling at this point because the expectations were not very high at at least publicly a around the nation sure San Francisco was very excited for their team but thirty one to seventeen forty one to seventeen is is this the on the road yes and is this the team that had that quick turnaround that you never see it coming but it happens every year that one or two teams just have this dramatic turn of events or was it just a product that they played the bucks and the bengals well. I think they win again this week. It'll be sitting at at three and you guys have them. Winning this game against Pittsburgh. I Have San Francisco winning. Yes yeah and some Pittsburgh just just traded for minkah Fitzpatrick. He'll play safety for them. Help solidify that secondary but either of you guys. You guys want to make a waterbed on Jayjay this week. I'll take the seventy seven in yards Jason. You went in on the first one of the week. I'M GONNA. Watch you to play waterbed. Mike and I alone Jason. I didn't realize his star like I didn't realize this. Show was hosted by two men in big baby. That's weird known that this is our seven hundred in seventy. Seven Shoukat is true. Mike on Design you you should on that. Here's how I feel threat. If you didn't get on that water I would have because you just don't want to do I. I wanted to lose the risk exactly well. Maybe maybe if you make a bet later. We'll like we'll trade pink slips or if we had real Pinkston pinks all right Mike Evans a top seven wide receiver finished against the New York giants in week one. He was the wide receivers seventy eight hoops in week two wide receiver fever forty eight now. He's top seven finished. It's tough to buy that even though he's my start of the week tomorrow who well. I'm not buying it. I'm I'm selling. He's not my star of the week. I do think he's a fine play. obviously he has the potential and the talent to have a top seven weeks so maybe this is the week is just really tough because as of right now it looks like he's the one B in Ovens Chris Godwin. It might just be too early early to know but I'm definitely selling a top seven performance. I'll sell it on the basis that I haven't ranked number eight this week. Yeah I would sell it. It is well just because I mean we're. We're trying to hedge top seven. That's a that's an outstanding week. I think Evans is going to be much better though okay giant seventy cindy seven. I will buy thank you all right John Brown seven receptions this week. He had seven catches in both week. One and two is a good number here. Well Done Brooks seven against Cincinnati buy or sell yeah. I'm GONNA Buy Cincinnati. Obviously just got torched by the niners. I think that Jon Brown is the clear number one target. He'll get seven again. That's a tough call for me because I do agree with everything he said but seven's a lot of action so I think I'll sell it. I you've got to buy okay. I believe in John Brown while more buy sell here. Aaron Jones seventy seven rushing yards against the Denver defense which by the way fantasy why is the Denver Defense has been borderline. The worst football like zero point one point That's what they've put up so far week. One Jones was thirteen for thirty nine. Anybody who's against Chicago Week to twenty three for one sixteen and one. I'll buy the seventy seven yards against the Denver broncos. What do you guys think I'm going to sell because it's okay. This is rushing yards right now. Not totally are yards. I'm going to sell I think Denver's defense well. They might not be great for fantasy. you don't expect a high scoring game here. I think they bottle him. Below seventy seven yards seventy seven is a good line because it's the threshold is makes it tough to go one way or the other but I do lean on Andy side all by Aaron Jones all right seven rushing yards well-done brooks that was by yourself from Pristine Auction Pristine auction. Dot Com use the registration code dollars. You'll save five dollars towards a spectacular sports memorabilia Elliot Purchase Brooks. Are you feeling today how you doing. I'm pretty good yeah the judge holding how are you holding up after seven hundred seventy seven episodes of fantasy football phil bothers podcast couldn't be better. That's good. That's good to ready ready seven seven more we just he's like. I'm not getting thousands Brooks. Do we just get three months notice. I know comment. Well okay. We don't check in on Brooks enough. Sometimes he's just doing his thing and we need to check in on him on the show so I'm glad you're doing well at least well enough to do another seventy-seven shows news notes from around the League presented by sleeper all right. We've got some great news to talk about again. The Lions Aliens Released C. J. Anderson they claim Paul Perkins so smash Jack Jackson so right now. Your backfield is Johnson and Johnson and Jackson ooh. That's what you have in in Detroit now. There are different ways to think about what happened here now. C. J. Anderson to me was a a problem problem for Kerryon Johnson because of his potential to steal goal line carries. We haven't really seen I got a lot of goal line carries manifesto. Yes even Roy you've seen none zero is is not much and so we don't really know whether the ball would have been given to C. J. Anderson or not now tied Johnson. Who every Detroit Lions Fan Vines extremely important that we hype up. He's a good player. He's look good on film. He's about the same size as Kerryon Ron Johnson. He's a he's an inch shorter about the same weight so as opposed to C. J. Anderson who kinda profiles at this stage of his career is more of a goal line back. I think this is good. This is good news. Use you lose your handcuffs slash. You know potential running-mate. Maybe this is a promotion for Johnson. I certainly am not picking Paul Perkins or thinking about him for fantasy. But how do you feel about this Jason. The reason they made the move is one is not about carrying on Johnson. It's about tie Johnson tied. Johnson took over even in the last game took over the backup role. He's so much better than C. J. Anderson they're saying hey. Let's let C. J. Anderson Go. We're paying him more. Bring in Paul Perkins will be fine but the upside for carry on is that they don't have a big bruising bowling ball for the goal line which means that while the you know and not only that but I've made the argument in the past that having low Kerryon Belco he's not going to get all the work tied. Johnson is going to me in their splitting the work with him but I would rather a running back be in there. That doesn't stop the DR C. J. Anderson comes in. They don't pick up the third down and the lions off the field so yeah ty Johnson is going to be an he's GonNa be getting more work. He's GonNa be frustrating. Kerryon Johnson owners but he actually might be good for carry on John's as an owner's because the lions. Maybe we'll get goal line opportunities so yeah this is. I think it's a net win but miniscule okay all right. Mike you agree with that. Yeah Yeah You last week you saw Carrie Johnson in the mid fifties of about snaps and then you thought twenty or so go to C. J. Anderson and twenty or so go to due to tied Johnson so i. I don't know that John that tie Johnson is GonNa jump up to that forty number so I think there will be a slight increase crease for carry on this is going to really annoy people with the box scores though they donaldson John Evil that can't why again they're just gonNA look. It'd be like well. How many receptions absolutely have either four or three. If there's reception there they went to carry on. That's what I like about the compared to tie no way man this Volvo uh-huh yeah. It was like the Chubb box score where you see D. Dot Johnson behind him and you're like oops still there. They'll stealing and Gary's away from nick up all right does Shawn Jackson is expected to miss Sunday's game against the lions will remain sideline for the week four contest same course of action that they're taking with Alshon Jeffery from the reports that we've seen and the eagles are so banged up. They literally cancel practice yesterday. They just canceled as we said. We need a day off the report that I read Brooks. I see growing in here. The report I read was in domino injury keeping him out for that two weeks an abdominal strain and so he's been bothered by it for a little while. They're going to give him a break so if you need a spot start. Nelson Goulart looks really interesting. Is there a name outside outside of Al.. Gore that you'd be interested in an offense like you know you're not looking at Mac Collins or JJ. No take a right side. I might side whites. I don't think you're gonNA right right side at yeah. That was me trying to re pronounce. His first name look feedback. We've heard just we don't his last name. We want to pronounce people's last names correctly like profession now. It's not just professional. It's it's also respect the right human thing to do like I don't need people call me. Mike rigged that would be annoying so it it sounds like we've heard pronouncing his name wrong and it's Jj Arteaga whiteside side with a t h sound that is what we have read. It is very difficult to do. It is because you don't sound you sound like if you're mispronouncing it. You're doing it. I don't know really embarrassing way right now. Is it pronounced Jason. It's pronounced are Theta whiteside yeah. Hey we're trying. We're trying to do right by the main. We're here to do what's right. I'm not looking for any other. I'm not looking for our thank whiteside. I'm not looking at Mac. Hall and you know this is a bump up clearly to Erz. This is the biggest bumped down for wince and and makes Nelson AG Laura a legit play all right. Aj Green News came. I'm out yesterday saying that he's expected to be sidelined longer than the original optimistic report which was like a sixty eight week timetable from the injury so we're not expecting age agreeing green to actually get back out onto the field until he is deeming himself one hundred percent which likely means you're not. GonNa see him on the field in the month of September at this point I would agree with that and in that John Ross yes start them up window and John Raw. It's only two weeks in and it took a garbage time massive touchdown down to get there but John can do that. He's he's involved big time in in a team that is they're throwing the ball more in a neutral game script than anybody else. I mean th this offense has done a complete one eighty from what Marvin Lewis used to run so John Ross is he's a solid play moving forward the match up's not great this week against Buffalo but I'm still playing Ross right. what else do we have. The drew brees news we already had this but he he's undergoing thumb surgery and will return potentially week ten following the saints by what do fantasy owners of drew brees do if they don't have of an IRA spot and you have dropped. I dropped him. The moment you found out I mean drew brees is not a plug and play every match up weekly starter. He's on the road and a difficult match up. They run touchdowns. You've seen it over the last few years while he's injured this long. No you shouldn't have them anymore. All right other news is that we have for you. We don't really know Cam Newton Newton Cam Newton is is ambiguous right now he he's in a walking boot. He's still in the boot today. He's still in the boot where they said if he doesn't practice I they say Kyle Allen is likely to get the start cameras out then. There was some indication on that saying Cam could start if he practices tomorrow. Ro and that it's still up in the air either way. This is really bad news for you know everyone yeah everyone everyone if cameras out. You're not start star like if he's out there if he's playing you're not starting. Cam Newton right now with the bum foot while he's not running the ball a hobbled cam. I'm not sure what's better kyle or hobbled cam either. One I think is gross so I'm not really looking to start. Dj More. I'm not looking to start Curtis Samuel Samuel. Maybe because of the landscape you you can you could continue rolling with Greg Olsen who's looked fine and then Christian McCaffrey but outside of also all Senate McCaffrey man. I I don't WanNa play with the panthers right now. Even against Arizona Yeah Yeah and you have the Browns David Giokoo not on practicing concussion protocols thoroughly shepherd still in the concussion protocol after missing this past week so one quick reminder for you. We call call it. 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I don't I don't believe so either with the way that he went down but you just don't know that's the current rhetoric. You don't play him mm if he's out there though I mean if he plays this this early yeah I feel like the chance of reactivation is like I would be scared off. Yeah even against the bengals sucks. Let's move. Let's talk trades now. That's not new Mike Right. We've played it before. It's just been awhile yeah so we took in some questions from facebook and twitter and instagram and Youtube and you guys made some trades yesterday to now Jason Thin. You made your now. Would you have made these trades if you had been Jason Tilts rate and you were reeling from I was reeling from losing out on the trade digiorno jor yesterday and not only that but so in in our division which is my team yours. Andy's and then a pop josh from around here also in their his team is unfair is unfair is is absolutely ridiculous already strong to compete. We've got to really go hard. I went after traded away in Giokoo and pick for Zach Ertz yeah they give up before the second round a second and a first rounder for AH injured tyreek talk to me for a second about that because I think people want to know what the value of Tyreek Hill is and I didn't really know when I was talking to this the same owner about Patrick Mahomes so sure so the thing with tyreek Hill right now. I looked into his injury situation. You know you've got the four to six weeks time line but there's been more optimism lately from around the team to the tune where people are saying. He's he's probably not. GonNa play this week which he's not but I mean when when you even have that conversation they're saying he's week to week. At this point already you could have you could have tyreek hill back in two weeks or three weeks and once he's back in half points scoring last year he was the number one wide receiver. We see Pat Mahomes balling out. Let me let me ask this question to Mike because I don't feel like at at this point now that you've acquired insurance this properly but Mike do you view. I mean obviously a lot of Sammy Watkins. High performance on the League leaders in targets he looks healthy looks spry spry McColl Hartman new addition Damarcus Robinson stepping up tyreek hill. Do you view him. Obviously he's a game changing Shallan but do you view him in a different light light this year because of what you're seeing with a healthy Sammy Watkins and the addition of Michael Hartmann then you did last year I do slightly the this the that breakout game of demarcus Robinson end look. It's I know there's a narrow street but like you the way that Patrick mahomes talks about Damarcus Robinson. He loves him as a player and then Hardman as well like the fact that the chiefs have these other players that you can spin the wheel of wit. Who's going to get the ball. We who's going to get the forty yard touchdown today and it's not just tyreek hill every single time like that's that's going to factor in. I'M I I'm not avoiding tyreek Hill. I would love to trade for him but I think that he has a slight amount of you've of regression potential building in and like each weekday goes by that we see more from hardman and the potential of Robinson is just going to factor during to that a little bit more and Mike. You May Dynasty trade your you move Devante Freeman Yeah my dynasty. My Dynasty squad the starting roster on paper deeper. It should perform. Unfortunately it is not so I've had to sell I and a one of the owners I in our Dynasty League put a message set of buying and I had to sell Freeman so I was able to sell him for a first and second round rookie pick for next year so piggybacking on that from Instagram Max k twenty three thirteen said should owner sell devante Freeman while he's still has value from the draft capital spent on him or do you believe that there are a better days ahead and your trade. You're in a dicey league. You're you're factoring a lot more things than just. Will you get a good week from right. Devante Freeman neck as we want to sell him because I do believe that better. The days are coming okay for Devante Freeman. He looks he still looks okay. He is still the primary running back for a very high powered offense. I think things have just bounced the the wrong way and the offensive line is a concern though so in other instagram foot clan member says what is the trade value he didn't he he he has devante Freeman as rb to doesn't know how to feel about that. How do you feel about him being an rb to Jason. Yeah I mean look I am. I'm more concerned. What about Devante. Freeman are better days ahead yes but that doesn't mean. I wouldn't capitalize on his name his draft stock and the value of someone believing he's still going to be fine fine. I would like to use him package him with someone else to upgrade at running back you know trade devante Freeman and a quality wide receiver to try and go get Chris Carson. You know if you could if you could take even so you know John Ross or the Terry maclaurin someone that you got who just been on fire the first two weeks. Maybe you package them together and try to upgrade at running back. I would do that in a heartbeat because the odds of line issues we've seen from Atlanta Atlanta that was all I was talking about the preseason and I was like I know it's preseason but they just look like they don't exist. Matt Ryan snaps the ball aw and he's got three guys in his face is really hard to have a successful running game without an offensive line and the only way that that's overcome is by the targets and and the passing game work hasn't been old school dominant roar. Devante Freeman might get like it was he'll have better days which means people will trade for him. I think a really interesting can of COMP here is to look at what David Johnson's done inefficiently with about offensive line if you look at since the beginning of twenty seventeen therefore there are four players with enough enough qualifying carries to fit into this category therefore players at three point six per carry so Garrett blunt not a good start and David Johnson's in that category as well. I think the other was Doug Martin amps but you know David Johnson's played played with a very bad offensive line for two years. Now you can flip that and say okay La- yards from scrimmage changes because David Johnson is heavily involved in the passing game to compensate compensate for inefficiency in the running game. If you don't involve Freeman enough you're not going to have enough value and I think that that's what you're seeing a little bit right now. Here's some Kerryon Johnson questions. We've got from the foot clan twitter. Would you trade Sony Michelle in Mile Sanders to acquire carry on Johnson in in a standard scoring league. That is a gigantic no for me. That's a no for me as the neurons Johnson owner especially in a standard league in yeah I mean not that it would really change the PR but in a standardly touchdowns are king and Sony is going to have the most touchdowns for sure far more more than carry on Johnson just based on team projected scoring and you could argue that over the course of the season. Mile Sanders has every bit of option to get as many touchdowns sounds carrying on Johnson. Does it's yeah there's no way I was going to simplify that in a standard league. Would you trade Sony Michelle for Kerryon Johnson straight up no not in a standard standard I would trade carry-on on fourth Sony. Here's a question about trading Kerryon Johnson away a couple of them Austin Jacob. Ask these Kerryon Johnson. Would you send them away for Sammy Watkins. No assuming I have running back depth because that's only whenever factor into all of these things if you're you're looking at at your team like I've got three solid running back. I'm GONNA trade one. That's a mistake you because you're you're toast than if any kind of injury happens so if you actually we have depth and yes I would trade him for Sammy Watkins in in general. I think that they are about the same tier as one another. They both had big games. They could both disappoint right. I would rather have the running back. Would you trade carry on for Joe Mixon. No I'm a knowing that category as well interesting. I I thought you might be on the mix inside yeah yeah mixing concerns. I just have mixed and ceiling concerns and and so I am more interested to see what carry on can do over the course of the year then you don't mix and dealing with the injury and things like that. Mike you're making some grimacing face have to report on that definitely. I know it's rough rough in that Joe. mixon has a bum ankle yeah right now. Joe Mixon is running for a sensational one point five nine yards words project seventeen Kerio for twenty seven yards. There's really not a difference between I mean Joe. Mixing Excellent Situation Devante Freeman situation offensive line concerns. We just kind of saw Joe Mixing overcome those last year about offensive line looked good in the preseason and I think they're a brighter days ahead for mix and just like I do Freeman but I I think I would lean on the carry on side. Were Yeah. I I agree healthy guy right now. That's all it is take the healthy guy with somewhat of an office of line by comparison to the Bengals who have none now is Joe makes a trade for candidate in general if if you could buy him for cheaper than carry on are you going to poking or do not want to worry about it. I would go and poke for Joe Mixing because I've seen I mean I saw some people on twitter talk about about him hitting the waiver wire in their league which is not going to happen in a lot of leagues but if there's a sentiment out there the negativity if if somebody in your league is making Mike's one point five nine yard per carry face that he just made which is really disturbing then you go tar. Have you ever see one point. Five nine is low. Oh Yeah Yeah only Sunny Michelle's point nine week one. I've seen that all right here are some James Connor questions. Take the temperature of that situation another. You're banged up inefficient player this far this year save last week of the touchdown but maybe that is what can provide you the Ammo to trade him. Would you trade straightaway James Connor for Nick Chubb. I would do that in a heartbeat. I guess that's probably going to be my answer to all of these but I would trade James Connor for niche up. Yeah I love. I love James Connor. I I believe he is a good running back but he's he's nicked up already and the loss of Big Ben. I'm not on team. quarterback goes out so now they're going to rely on the running back. I I want in elite quarterback running thing the team for my fantasy running back because I want scoring opportunity so I will. I will take Nick Chubb here and did you guys catch the the old Freddie Kitchens is lying about nick job. I'll I did. I walk into this morning. It's a classic class. Michael Keith Classic Line from Head Coach who controls tells the team saying Oh man I would love to get nick job. Samore looks well. You know we should talk to the guy who can do it. Did they ever reading it right in the mirror. It's Freddie ever wake up in the morning and just say I would like to get him. Some more looks so because because you would like to see him say. I'm going to get him more looks. Yes yeah as what I some coaches say that I didn't get the ball to him enough. You know I'll try to get him the Baltimore. I it's like I gotTA figure this out. They get the ball that Chubb is better better than Connor at this point. I'm still in on Connor. Yeah I am general. I think they just have a really good office of line and they're they're. You're going to want to use them. Their offense might not be as good. I certainly downgrading connor without Big Ben but I'm not off. I I look at these other two questions coming in from instagram and facebook facebook and I'm on the connor side. Do you believe James Connors trade valuable better or worse two weeks from now God. They said they have about the same as what it is. Now I mean if I had to choose you know what is what's their next two weeks schedule. I don't have that rare on the road. In San Francisco this upcoming week okay he's coming off the injury and then after the niners looks like it's the bengals say it's up outside so yeah I would be. I personally move on from him. I know you guys both believe in. Would you trade James Connor for Mike Evans. This team dependent based on your needs at wide receiver and running back. It's an even trade yeah I would say. It's a fair trade so if you if you need a wide receiver I am still in on Mike Evans. I think is never really good week this week. Now this one is is interesting and dynasty trade. Oh I didn't realize it was dynasty from facebook and it's a James Connor for David Montgomery rain. Would you in a dynasty league. Would you try James Games conifer David Montgomery so they the dynasty fan. I and I would the dynasty fact because he's like I'll James Garner questions going back x six months you were you were out well. I and it's it's tough because I don't want to just like I'm not sitting here trying to. There's victory loud to be had. There's no like like I've been out out on James Connor because I don't believe that the truth of the first half of last year you know. I don't think it's a reflection of his future production unite. You've got these situations and Mason Rudolph the rest of the year so I know you like the talent of Connor. I think he's just overvalued so in that case I would like to cash on him before watching the Mason Rudolph experience experience with him just because of the risk factor like I guess there's a lot of the risk. There's a lot of like the odds of Connor looking like the same dynasty. SSD Is is today at the end of the year to me are lower than the odds of Montgomery's looking like a greater asset at the end of the year so I'm that's where I split the. I don't think you throw connor out in all circumstances by any means but that's just how I way and your your risk assessment is is is right on. We do know though this dynasty sewed. You're also factoring in next year as well and big. Ben Says he's coming back the the surgery that he's he's having he should be able to to recover from as as a quarters. I feel like I have a whole lot more to give yes he's. He's he's coming back to play the contract attract so next year still has to be factored in and I would James Connor. He's stolen the rookie deal. I ca I can't imagine the pay of the Patriots steelers moving on from James Caan and when they have them for super duper cheap and the way that Tom win roles with with the bell cow running back Tomlin could be a concern yeah. I mean I if the team tanks do they get rid of Mike Tomlin at the end of the year because that changes the equation massively they did give him a one year extension recently so I would doubt they move on but that's that's something you have to factor and I. I think I would take the David Montgomery side here because I don't think the two are super far apart in value. You've got two years of age gap APP between these two running backs and it doesn't bother me there. You know obviously David Montgomery is on his year one rookie contract and the investment was more that the bears I gave than the investment to not by much you know not well not much I if you're just taking pick for pic but considering what they had in the draft class what they did to to use the pick on Montgomery I take M- opportunity all right traditionally we see I mean we see the steelers hang onto their head coaches for a long period of time. It's interesting with Tomlin. You know trying to put them in a position where you know he's never he's not going to be this lame. Duck coach at some point coming up but he's still through two thousand twenty one. I tend to think he'll be around. I do and even if they end up having to rebuild. You've got the built in. Excuse losing your quarterback all right. I don't know if they let them go or not but but let's move on from Austin Eker questions. This is a really good topic and we'll we'll we'll hit these before reduce. Thursday night preview because man the temptation for fantasy owners the difficulty of knowing to cash in on what I have versus. You know just writing it. You know cashing in on James Connor early last year was is not a benefit to fantasy owners in general no because he would have felt real bad yeah I mean he e sustained production throughout the season at a at a high value so what is the trade value of Austin is number one running back in football through two weeks. We had some news this morning. You Know Melvin Gordon coming out and saying hey hey. I'm GONNA play somewhere this year because Oh forget about me Melvin Gordon. I'm GONNA play somewhere because it would be a waste of talent if I didn't. That's not news that I can bank on on him thinking. It would be a waste of talent if he's not out there. That team has drawn a line in the sand. They've been willing to pay him ten million dollars. They've said we're not negotiating your contract until after the season and it's that's it I mean Jerry Jones isn't running the Los Angeles chargers and so there is no leverage here from elven Gordon. The chargers are looking at him. Oh it would be a waste of waste of talent for a year as that's a shame shame because we don't care Melvin. Gordon knows he has this comeback. He's talked about on twitter. He's well aware that he wants to accrue the season so that he can hit free agency next year. He's GonNa come back now. It could be too if an injury happens to some team that is then willing to trade for Melvin Gordon. It could be for some he can play somewhere else probably not gonNA come so at some point. He comes back ruins. The value of actor that doesn't mean equity goes to zero but certainly ruins his stardom but I'm still holding onto Here's a a perfect example. I was off. I have equity in our listener league. I was offered James Connor for us. Equity Emiko Hartman and I turned it down because arsenic hasn't been good. He's been great. Yes I want the victories right now. I want to win and accumulate. Get me in the playoffs. I'll figure things out at a later time. I still think you have several weeks left of Austin actor and so I if I mean his his first two weeks are the best to first weeks of fantasy franchise history for the charges including the Ladainian Tomlinson Years Including Melvin Gordon's the first two weeks of his careers. He's the number one running back in football right now. I always like to give these reports. People want to know about our league record and maybe a lay of the land in terms of FAB dollars dollars in spending. That's one of my eyes went really big earlier yeah so in our one hundred dollar Fab Budget League Damarcus Robinson twenty one dollars. Somebody bought him for twenty one years. Is that around where you expected or do you think that's higher than I expected. I thought he would be maybe in the if someone wanted to pay up the low teens all right. Nelson Aguilar went for seven dollars trying to buy flex start this week at a bid in for ten dollars on Nelson Galore before I traded Kazakov Arts and I didn't wanNA run whence herbs and you're Outta this week but I think he's a really solid flex start. We'll digitally Seattle tied in with for six dollars. What do you think about that seems very appropriate with tight end landscape. I'll let you know I bet a dollar on him. I had a bid in on him before headers okay. I mean that was pretty much. The big spins in our league in terms of who is there on free agency but I was curious about with demarcus Robinson would go for. It's a pretty big chunk. He may be you know you. You talk about buying wins. You have a multi flex league or something of that nature or you are hurting at wide receiver and you can buy yourself two or three weeks. I don't blame anybody for doing that. Do the hard part about Tyreek Hill. Is You just don't know we don't know when tyree kills coming back as it in two weeks as it in a month linus a strange injury. It's an injury where the exact you're not coming back in. You know it's a medical concern in so if if there's risk of a medical problem happening do they hold him out longer. Does he play differently for a couple of weeks. I don't know the answer those questions but this team seems to have the luxury of waiting on their performance if he's out for for four weeks for more yeah if he's like. Let's say you get another four shots at demarcus Robinson. I'm not suggesting him the production of last week but just the chance chance of Damarcus Robinson going off. He is the wide receiver to look at the snap breakdown. Yeah it's Sammy Watkins Marcus Robinson in the McColl. Harmon is the third YEP. If we get four weeks at that then then he could be worth the price that he went four in our league. We just don't know hills. Come Back Yeah Yep Thursday night breakdown that maybe he's. No may be the actual rule description. Please event post mortem like you may just call it. Do you remember the Thursday night breakdown when we all broke down in tears because the score is six five somehow. I don't even know how you score. I mean a safety field goal Mario vs Gardner Minhsiu. It's a forty forty over under in this game. The titans go to Jacksonville. Jacksonville has all of the controversy around Jalen Ramsey is expected to play for them this week their there oh into the titans are one in one do expect the titans to win this game. They're one and a half point road favorite. They're one and a half point road favorites. I expect them to win by two or or three. You know what I mean. This is not a game. I'm really excited about seven to nine the only player I mean they're ultimately derrick. Henry and Leonard Fournette need to to be played. Yes I think that's like end of list unless you are raw string Delaney Walker in which case. You're going to play your tight in their partner. Men show any of the wide receivers I I don't have the communist level in charge that others do or curse Conley or any of his pass catching weapons in this game the these are two really good defenses assist against to really bad quarterbacks and there's supposed to be twenty mile an hour sustained winds and gusts up to thirty miles house an hour so yeah you're going to be running. The ball both sides a lot so you know four net Derrick Henry that might be okay low scoring game gross under yeah. I tend to agree with that might do you have any other thoughts in this matchup. That would be informative for fantasy owners. No it's very very difficult. Laney Walker is in I have I have building confidence in. Dj Chart Moving forward as a flex play but this is not the match when you combine what the weather looks like. It's going to be with the match up. I I don't want to be playing him. This is the second year guy and he's making a step forward but he's also not going to score sixteen times this year and right now. A lot of hype is built a scored in week once Gordon Week to Chris Conley has been involved in the offense as well and I don't think Dede Westbrook is a slouch talent wise and so you know I. It's just not a situation where I'm excited now if you if you had to start one wide receiver for Jacksonville this week like you are being forced to. Mike it's Charq you would start. Dj charges just chase the first two weeks. I think you're chasing what you saw. As the target distribution from Gardner got a nice rapport with Gardner so far yeah he it would be charcoal drop-dead. D- D- D- a dropped his weedy denied everywhere. I was so excited for DD this year. It's those are those things that are such shames because Robbie the Anderson Situation Right now like I was extremely confident indeedy. I I mean the you know. There's certain players it's all about probability ability and what you put the odds of being right or wrong on on somebody. I I had my odds very high that Didi was going to be great and but that was on the basis of how nick foles plays quarterback. Nick foles gone. Garner comes in target someone else pay yeah. Chris Conley has twelve targets on the year last week. DD Chuck had nine targets. Conley had five so that's why Chuck Chuck makes. I'm just gonNA chase the targets. It's it's not doesn't feel great but if you're saying you're forced to play a Jacksonville Jaguar one. What are you doing in that league. That's that's the league that sounds very bad for your health might be beach. Shark is Mario to six and two against Jackson's career four straight wins but his average one hundred forty two passing yards per game in the last five against Jacksonville. It's not going pretty high for him. He's not going to be pretty reminder. Take your Thursday night players out of the flex if you have them. It sounds like in this game. We're pretty much advising. Please don't flex or regular play any of these players outside of the running backs I am. I am a really really I'll say this. I'm a really really big Derrick Henry fantasies that's fair. I'm really really into the Derrick Henry experience at this point this week he's rb sixteen going up against this jags defense but if you just listen to the way you know the beat writers around the team the way the head coach speaks what they believe. The recipe for success is and what the statistical evidence is that when they give him enough work you know they win the ballgame and if you listen to their head coach this past week talked about the fact back you know they need to be better on third down so that Derrick Henry can go from you know sixteen seventeen carries to twenty to twenty five. It's rare to have a situation where you've got a guy big enough strong enough a focus in the offense enough to say we want to actively give him twenty five carries a game and that's the situation for Derrick Henry and if you look look at the target utilization or the target difference between him and Dion Lewis I think they have the exact same amount of catches on the year. The targets aren't that different. They're actually throwing Derrick Henry the ball at at least a little bit which is good thing five total targets yeah I mean in but what is the Lewis I will. I mean they're not throwing the ball to the running thing that much. They're not throwing the ball that much. That's Dan Lewis has five total target yeah so I it's just not a situation. I'm in on Henry for the rest of season. Maybe this is the week where he underwhelms. Williams and you can go buy him. I don't know I'm in on these defenses. Go ahead and fire up your DST's on Thursday night football but yeah for this week yeah what happens to Jacksonville's de Jalen Jalen goes bye-bye. I still think they're they're D. line and boy is is is great it is it will be interesting interesting to see if Ramsey plays very nice because the reports are if the trade of Raines is going to happen. It won't being till Friday for whatever reason Ed do the Jaguars risk playing him. Let's say they have a handshake agreement done and then Ramsay goes out and gets hurt. Do they risk that. The Dolphins Sir did a Minka was out there playing but that's just an interesting thing. It doesn't really have bearing hiring on fantasy but it's fascinating yeah fair enough all right that is it for today's episode back with matches tomorrow. We're GONNA think Christine Oxygen for sporting the show today you can go to a pristine auction dot. Com and guys match up tomorrow Video Jason Up on Youtube Goodbye. 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MNF Recap/Week 3 Waivers 2020

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59:56 min | 6 d ago

MNF Recap/Week 3 Waivers 2020

"The Fantasy book is football podcast is presented by GEICO good morning to you for those that are watching the livestream. Have you fall I day fall today if I'm not mistaken or maybe it's tomorrow but sometime soon, field and matthew and Daniel it's define. You hear that you have outlook on your face like you've got something to say do I? Is there a specific look like? Your I. Stretch I was looking at myself on the what we call the return. So for people watching at home field and I have a screen in front of us, we can see what you see as well and I'm I'm wearing t shirt the it's a fantasy life tee-shirt. It's a straight OUTTA options, which I thought was appropriate for waiver wire today given all the injuries that happened in week number two, and so you know listen I I'm not a t-shirt got i. feel like you look good and a t-shirt. Okay I don't think he goes either way with me so I was just Getting. My My shirt on the camera on the return just trying to make myself. Look you know presentable for the Internet. So when you say it goes either way like how frequently does go in your faith percentage docking likes like when he's wearing a shirt better when he wears a t shirt. There was a day in two, thousand, six where. He had the sleeves rolled up a little bit, pretty? Nice. Let's get right into. It was tied. It was it was not as tight. For a little tight. Yeah. I Titan. Let's get it. Monday. Night Football the Las Vegas raiders win in impressive fashion last night really way undefeated loss vegas reiter not only to know this season but of course now I WANNA know in their new home allegiance stadium looked beautiful can't wait for fans to be allowed to be inside of Olympic Stadium they went thirty four, twenty, four one of those games where you thought this one might out of hand early in the saints favor, they go up ten nothing instead the raiders on the Strength Really Derek Carr and Darren Waller the baller twelve. Hundred and three yards and a touchdown for Darren Waller over his last sixteen games got ninety five catches. I wonder if any tight end has more catches over their past sixteen games than Darren Waller the baller not that we're gonNA ever redraft in week three. But if you were think right now, there are about two tight ends you definitively takeover there while and maybe it's just one. I think he would still be fourth for me. Yeah. Hurts my head averts like. Guess Kill with the injury right. Definitely are taking. Travis Kelsey. And then I think Mark Andrews and I think it's a conversation banged up George biddle. Probably. Oh Love Waller obviously Bigeye for me last year. One of my favorite players in the NFL I've got a I've got a silver and black eighty-three Jersey hanging in two as well, which is interesting underneath that shirt that you're wearing right now I think it probably, you know what? It is an anything cool story right? Like it's not that we didn't expect we were not like anybody was saying bench Darren. Waller. Going into last night just a great story playing tight end for basically two years. The Guy was nearly out of football and nearly out of luck in life with a lot of personal demons at he has battled and struggle with he's been suspended on multiple. Occasions. He's gotten his life very much on track and just you know they say you love to see it. You love to see it with Darren Waller. So congrats to him on his personal growth in fantasy perspective he has established himself as a star as a no brainer must start. You don't think about it tight in twenty four targets so far this year that's third in the NFL pretty good look like and find yourself someone that looks at you. The Way Derek Carr looks at Darren Wall or and what was amazing is is I complained about this on twitter last night and then you know the fantasy got sometimes answer you right you can play loud enough and. What was amazing his last year Dan Waller had ninety receptions, three touchdowns, right? Like they just never looked for them in the red zone or even the end zone. Especially in thought Oh, you know foster monroe had more touchdowns last year there are other tight end than waller did despite the fact that during it was such an integral part of their offense and so the fact of the matter is that they got him a score in this one as well. So really exciting game for the raiders I think for football right I mean they like you know if it just been the hall yeah. The saints want again okay well, you know like. Last night was a great game I think all the way around. Yes. Enforce you're GonNa say is yesterday that will be the only problems. If you're a saints fan, you're a little bit less than enthused about Josh Shakeups though he fought through some pain got banged up in the middle of this game but finish the game. So you feel good about his outlook going forward healthwise eighty eight rushing yards. Up I mean like, are you concerned? Okay. Well, let's. I want to ask to find know I. Don't know all I know is is that this is a guy that played through a broken shoulder last year I mean like so he's one of the toughest guys in the NFL but like. Don't you think there's a scenario and I'm not, I have no win no inside knowledge whatsoever I'm merely saying that I don't think the fact that Josh Jacobs Return means he's completely out of the woods. So if you wanted to ask to find you, let's just do it. Why not rights to find your of course She she's there there she is in the bunker to find you. Are you concerned at all about Josh Checkups? Not Yet? No I I was concerned at that moment matthew I know exactly we saw. So I'm go out. He looked like he winced a little bit I thought Oh boy here we go I mean we he's on the field. He's got the ball a lot. He's in the running back position where he's getting taken down and getting hits all the time he's vulnerable but you're going to see think moments like. That where he goes out and comes back in and once he was back and look good I wasn't worried still find you but I'm not crazy for this specific reason. I mean there's lots of reasons why I am thank you for clearing right. But for the I'm not crazy to think that just because a player returns to a game doesn't mean they're out of the woods I feel like we've seen scenarios where players left a game comeback in and we mid week like Oh turns out he was playing on A. Blank injury no you one hundred percent correct and I applaud you I mean I'm just really impressed by all the things that I notice you've picked up Oh last thirty years. It's really great. One hundred percent correct. Do we have to give them one? Hundred? PERCENT? One, hundred percent? Correct? That is a possibility, but it's also important how they come back. George one of my favorites who played last year after he hyper extended his knee and didn't look the same couldn't do the same things. Josh Jacobs last year we did begin to see him where down even though he was out there we heard about the time he was in tears putting on his equipment I thought he looked good when he came back last night I mean I I didn't see anything that would set off the alarm right now but sure it's possible. He was he was playing through something. But I just I guess I'm not overly concerned until I. Hear It. Okay. So without definitive information, one way or the other and without really ability to project going forward at this moment, let's how what we do now twenty seven carries last night poor efficiency e average about three yards per carry. He got three catches that was solid geometry chard had the big touchdown run for the raiders but this is three straight games with twenty or more carries Josh Jacobs a cut workhorse running back and right now with so many running-backs already injured or struggling he feels like one of the five to seven best running backs and fantasy. People. That were fading Josh Shakeups in the preseason. We're talking about the fact that you know again no passing game usage and like again seven catches so far this year it's not like it's not massive. Yeah but it's not nothing wrong the volume the volume that the he's getting is unbelievable. Actually think like I, think it was I don't know there was a ton of fading of Josh Jacobs there were some concerns and I think. Actually, think those are like I don't think that they've crippled his they crippled his value going into the season I just think that relative in most years like there are other running backs who are getting a bit more passing game that also we're getting great rushing attempts as well. He's appropriately slotted though right now if thinks whereas said given all the injuries, probably one of the five to seven most valuable running backs that we have still remaining. Henry. Rugs third was the twelfth overall pick in the draft and I don't think a lot of people were starting in going into the season. Starting last night. But if you were, you can put back on the bench for right now he may come around and he's still an interesting late round flyer was coming into the season for us but one catch on three targets for four yards. Zeta-jones touchdown last night we saw. alyx ingold touchdown last night, not exactly. The players you were expecting to catch passes from Derek Carr in the end zone last night instead, henry rugs will have to wait for he did have a nice touch down in week one sort of breakout. We'll have to come at a later I think I just want to jump back in on Henry Rugs because circle back to the point, Matthew, just made, which is Henry rugs hurt his knee in week one and he came back after that knee injury and played. Through, it got a lot of praise from Jon Gruden for doing. So but didn't look great afterward came into this game questionable and even though he was active I, think we talked about it on Sunday. He really hadn't done anything in practice so far was concerned about what he'd be able to do. So I'm not sure how much on Monday was a function of him hundred percent healthy either okay interesting. We'll file this again. I just think the probably though not mean to cut you off Matthew is that Even. If he's healthy, no one saying eight can't we Hendrickson the lineup right based what we've seen. I agree the only the only raiders you feel confident and starting our Jacobs and waller that said, I. Do think this was game plan specific to try to attack the saints get away from their corners try to go to the middle of field try to create mismatches with Waller, which they did throughout the night you know getting him on different guys like they couldn't like like eventually had to start doubling him but I guess my point is is that I don't know that this game is necessarily super indicative of what the raiders want to offense to your greater point. Being, you're not starting rugs or Edwards or Renfro or any of the raiders pieces not named Dan Waller or Josh Jacobs. Until we see something consistent on the field better football players, fantasy football players right now Daniel flip to the saints game because I know we need to move on if you're if you are a part of of the managers that were hit by all these injuries is Henry rugs somebody that you would feel comfortable at the end of your roster we're like you know if I need to drop him he's the he's the level of person I'm okay with of course. Yes. We wouldn't catch last night I. Just want to make sure I know we still like we're hoping turnaround season long but if you need it, then he's GonNa have to we'll get the wire section in a second but just very quickly as a general rule, you're going to have to make some tough calls. Yeah and if you're sitting there at Owen, to if your own to lost saquon your own to in your without Christian McCaffrey the next four to six weeks like you are you're in surviving. Advance mode you can't worry about somebody might blow up in the second half like you've got to win week three like everything you do is about like just get me a win in week three to one and two, and then I'll worry about week four when I'm done with week three. So let's get to that a little bit later on in the show let's go to the saints now focus quickly on Alvin Kamara you can all thank my lovely wife shape and Duke for his incredible performance last. Night. Thirty Eight, point, eight, four fantasy points. You're welcome. She says shape and last night we were talking she really didn't have much time to talk plus you did it have time to tell me that she needed a huge night from Alvin Kamara that was basically the extent of our conversation can't talk need to go crazy tonight he had thirty eight point four fantasy point nine catches for ninety five yards. He had two rushing touchdowns after a disappointing year last year there are people that told me this. Many people told Mister in the preseason I want no part of Alvin Kamara I. Hope they change their mind when they are actually on the clock during the draft because Alvin Kamara. If you're redrafting right now and again I don't want to do is exercise all the time because we're not going to be redrafting right now. But if we were redrafting for the rest of the season, he might be the number one overall pick and fantasy matthew elite rushing usage elite passing game usage he is a star. Really is not all heroes where capes like yeah. So you tweet that last night I, did I was down significantly I play against the guy that just had a I was I'm going to different sixteen team league than the one we're in here it's it's actually league number one. It's the very first thing that was ever created ESPN, my friend Air Berge started at and anyway, and so in that league and the kid that I'm playing guy playing whatever. Had Cam and Etem and like sixteen points from Justin. Tucker I was down significantly going into last night. I only had Alvin Kamara left but Alvin Kamara brought me back hashtag Monday night miracle. Thank you Alvin Kamara believing that the what was surprising to me was how little usage Latavius Murray. Gotten this game although listen to the saints were the saints at no point had a lead in this game a significantly early. But but honestly listen the the raiders clawed their way back and then they were trailing the saints were so I. Think the bigger conversation about the saints on. A boy ESPN radio breaking new guys just got breaking news in my ear. Blake bortles the new quarterback, the Denver broncos sort of a new quarterback on a Denver broncos team that according to Adam Schefter took to twitter a little while ago. He is going to sign a one year deal. Once he gets through the requisite covid nineteen protocol field already knew what I was going to say did like I thought he was he a free agent I. thought he was in La he ran reached said it wasn't your you'll last year for one million bucks. He was a free agent. He's now at the Denver we were work we're grinding the story out this morning early. So we had a sense it was going to happen. Daniel though. Listen. It's your it's your producer Matt Harrington in my ear saying breaking news. Fake. Hey. We don't talk about our room we. Veiled shot at about thirty seconds going said if you're in is Saquon Barkley and sixteen team league and Lamar Jackson and eventually bark is Brown and Jarvis Landry you guys, I told you guys I told you and Matt. Harrington. I told you this privately. I will say now to America I thought you guys did a really good job with your warring war room league draft. You've had some terrible luck through I two games but I thought you guys did a very, very good job. You're one of my favorite teams coming out of the draft. Okay. Well, if someone can throw some magic our way to turn our season around, we will take it anyways though yes. Decide whether that's an appropriate use of breaking news going sure that's what I do think there is. So let's. Here we are. We are the board Ling of our best. podcasting we are we are the Blake Bortles of podcasting. So that's probably fair like they're probably certain players like I don't care what I don't care if like Steven Jackson moved to a new home, if Stephen Jackson's in the news like because of his. Years a fantasy superstar. I'm worth I think it's worth of breaking news drops. Jackson what I'm saying so like Blake, Bortles had a couple of years where he graduated from downtown. Yeah. I was thinking about Steven Jackson running back but Stephen Jackson. Guy. To S J S, J thirty minutes, right. So what I think they're actually as a legit conversation to be had so. I met all the waiver wire which I read every week now available on the ESPN DOT com. I wrote I gave a few quarterback suggestions for the week three of them. Specifically, we'll talk about those a little bit later, but the premise was. I'm not really sure you're going to be adding a quarterback this week because. Of the players drafted in the let's say the top ten to twelve. They have either met or maybe even surpassed expectations for the most part, right? There too nice. Tom Brady and drew brees and drew brees it's interesting. Under fourteen point under fifteen points in back to back games didn't have once in two, thousand, nine hundred and I gotTa tell you it's don't. It's so early and I really really really don't WanNa be the guy that writes off true brees Tom Brady or both of them too soon complete moron within a month. But. Both players have had some struggles that are just hard to Miss Brady? We thought some of those struggles we saw last year will be cured by better weapons I'm not sure all of them have and drew brees. Drew Brees we saw last year through two games and I. Don't know that if I had drew brees is my starter. I am prepared right now to make a move at quarterback unless you drafted a second player like maybe a Cam Newton, who was one of the trendiest second options at quarterback But it's I mean the the the leash is not long drew brees anymore and forever it was you drafted him he played all sixteen games. You're probably felt really good about the investment yeah. They're similar cases I understand they're both big name first ballot hall of Famer famous guys over forty understand that but I do think the difference between reason Brady. Breezed on look like drew brees, threw two games and I. It's more sample size. So so I agree with you I wouldn't mind if I had drew brees and I didn't have massive injuries somewhere else. I didn't have to address at the running back position. I wouldn't mind grabbing a job borough or something like that. I'm not saying necessarily start them over drew. brees this week but I wouldn't mind because there may come a point sooner rather than later where you're just like I can't start drew brees anymore, and at that point you look around and there's good quarterbacks on the waiver wire. So while there's still some guys out there that have big time potential I might grab one in stash one as for. Tom Brady. What gives me confidence here is two things and I agree with you. Obviously, Brady hasn't been what you draft him to be but I. If you watch that game last week which and I watch very closely right. So first off the Shawn McCoy drops a touchdown Scotty. Miller drops a touchdown. A Grayson is Curtis Grace and I forget the first kids first name Grayson. Thank you very much. He taught he dropped to pass that would have been at that should have been touched on that he could have he could have walked. In there Leonard Fournette caught a caught a swing passing attack of the one he ended up converting it on the next play on a run and point is there were a number of plays that had anyone else on his team stepped up numbered day looks a lot different interests to understand that game one playing against the saints had had my cabins on basically half a hamstring. Right? Second game doesn't have Chris Godwin. So I want to see a Tom Brady game where he's got his full complement of weapons there again, I think. Scott Mills Shawn McCoy catch though touchdowns and he's got three touchdown passes against the panthers I think you're. I think the narrative around Tom Brady is a little bit different. Yeah. I I don't know I I. Don't know the answer I think it's only two weeks and I, of course no Michael Thomas last night for drew brees. We should note that context just sometimes you get a little instinct and it works out in your favor and my instinct right now is that something is off drew brees and I wonder if it can be fixed over the next few weeks I Certainly hope it can be let's talk about trick one Smith I was just going to say the last thing on that game is I think we gotta talk about the wide receivers. Yeah and Mike I'll I'll I'll give this question to you feel ministry eight you make the waiver wire com not only did he make the waiver wire calm but my question to you is just when you think about football so the obvious thing the sort of surface level analysis is like trae quantum with over Emmanuel Sanders. Right. But my question is do you when Michael Thomas Comes. Back. Is Trey Kwan Smith to the bench or manual centers the bench because they they're different wide receivers replaced where two different positions you know. Go ahead. A centers stain on the field he'd get sixteen million dollars to be a spectator this off season I know and I wanted to bring up I mean. So that's my thought about excluding trick wants her from the waiver wire. Calm. The only reason why added him because because there are so many injuries this week that you may before into making a move a little bit of context here it's one game. Saints could've put Michael Thomson Injured Reserve and he's missing at minimum three games but potentially just three games. So you would think that Michael Douglas's back either this week or next given that they do not place him on injured reserve roster sponsor very coveted in the NFL beyond that, we've seen trae Kwan's miss flashed before he had like ten catch one hundred and three yard game in the past, and then subsequently he fizzled back out. So if you're desperate and you're confident in the match up next weekend against the packers on a massive Sunday night football game, I think there are worse options to consider, but I am not making them a priority. Add this week just because a five catches for eighty six year. Yes. I agree with you and I think that's the important part here because I think people will see those numbers of the box got add trae Kwan Smith and I would argue that no, because number one is I don't think he gets nearly the plank at full health for the saints. He's not GonNa get nearly the plane time that he got last year I agree with you there not manual sanders isn't going to the bench anytime soon but the I think the greater point here is that you don't want Emmanuel Sanders on your fantasy team like again, the saints you want. Our Chimera Michael Thomas and jared cook likely maybe drew brees. Right S we have to figure out. and. Maybe latavius Murray's Latavius. Murray's got fifteen carries in week one didn't do much last night but obviously a very, very important insurance piece if anything were to happen to Chimera so. But. Those guys that I think you're Australian and drew brees sort of on the fence if we talked about. But yeah, I. Just there are a better wide receiver options on the waiver wire. We're going to get to that in a little bit later in the show then Trae Quantum Smith? So I just don't want people to overreact to what was a very nice performance last night good solid game for Trade Kwan Smith a great victory for the Las Vegas Raiders coming back to talk about injuries in just one moment but first a word from Daniel. Did. You know that right now geico offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car motorcycle and RV policy real for real. That's fifteen percent on top of the money. GEICO could already save you. So what are you waiting for a better use of the breaking news drop because Blake Bortles was a top five fantasy quarterback not that long ago guys. That's probably not going to happen anytime soon. But at least there's never been a better time to switch to geico save an extra fifteen percent when you switch by. October. Seventh Visit GEICO DOT COM to learn more. All. Right. So it's time to talk about injuries and to be clear. What we're going to do here is we're going to get the information the updates from Stephan. We're GONNA get into the waiver wire talk a little bit later on this show we don't want to have the same conversation twice, and of course, most of this week's waiver wire ads. Are Dependent upon the injuries from week to, and again, I think most people are very aware of the update surrounding these players but for those that are not as aware. Trip through these, and sadly we begin with Saquon Barkley. Very. Sad. In second quarter injury, you could tell it look serious. He tore his right that was confirmed yesterday with imaging others support from NFL network. He also tore his media collateral ligament and his meniscus at least in part, and the reason this matters is because you often if you have an injury, they will delay your surgery for a few weeks to allow the in the inflammation to subside and protect the MC L. before you go in for ACL reconstruction. So just adds a little bit of time and a little bit of complexity to the recovery. Stefan you Christian. McCaffrey. said he wanted to be incredibly transparent about his injury. What did he tell us yesterday? Well, he was transparent about his attitude for sure and that he sees it as a challenge to get back from this high ankle sprain sooner than the four to six weeks that he was told it would take. Now we talk about high ankle sprains all the time in how their tricky because guys can feel really good walking around and we took some comfort and I'm Christian, McCaffrey came off the field on his own power and we know that until you get those things further evaluated you can't necessarily. Assess the severity of it I think the fact they're planning on four to six weeks gives him some cushion, right? If he does well and he's able to show them that he can do what he needs to play the position then you come back but remember speaking of the guy we were just talking about Saquon Barkley came back after missing three games. Last year struggled a little bit when he returned probably came back a little soon Christian McCaffrey by the way when the team was asked Matt rule was asked Hey. Would you put McCaffrey on I R which would, of course, shelf in for at least three games? I haven't even thought about that yet we'll worry about that gushing and the decision later, but that would be a big indicator for us a Portland sentenced to find. I feel awful for this kid after being hurt in week one with an AC sprain maybe it's even before we can excuse me in the last days of training can't. Now he's got an even graver injured injuried overcome everybody who is watching the shoulder he makes it back. It's GonNa plan this game we knew he wasn't one hundred percent going in and then he his knee but again, maybe to matthews point from earlier that. You sometimes, you see guys walking around or they look like they're not as bad off as they are. He was trying to convince people that he was okay and maybe could go back into the game and it turns out he had a torn ACL. So unfortunately, his season is over but again, another reason it reminds us you can't always judge the severity of the injury by how the players reacting on the sideline and just a quick note on his quarterbacks to finally because even if Portland Sutton was playing, he's going to be catching passes for would be catching passes from somebody besides drew lock. For the upcoming weeks, I drew lock with Bruce rotator cuff. So they thought a sprain initially that's what we talked about yesterday, and again sometimes you get better detail of the soft tissue injury when you go for the MRI, that's where it's really helpful. A Bruce rotator cuff for thrower is problematic because you have bleeding in the area of the muscles that essentially control your shoulder in space. So they're thinking four to five weeks for drew lock I could be longer to get his normal throwing back. Okay. That's unfortunate for the second year player that's also part of the reason why that massive breaking. News early on in the show popped up the team is adding Blake Bortles to the active roster. Not Quite wise NFL's better with Blake bortles agreed of course Paris. Campbell for the for the colts volume had a great week one and now unfortunately he's dealing with yet another injury. Yeah. Another injury multi ligament injuries knee a pcl MC l. injury sounds like there's some discussion about whether he's going to require surgery or ultimately will have surgery to address the issue or go through intensive Rehab We see there are a lot of reasons why that could be up in the air and especially Concerning the overall stability of his name. This is an injury that Levy on bill had if you remember back when he was with the steelers and had the post share part of his knee actually reconstructed. So we'll see what Paris Campbell elects to do. What the medical staff recommends but I wouldn't be counting on him this season I know they've labeled it indefinitely but in order to Rehab this correctly whichever route he goes, it's probably going to be longer man a bummer because basically lost a rookie season as well. Due to Andrea. Arts civilian. You've got nineteen minutes starting with the forty niners injuries that enough time or no? Let me start with the fact that they're playing was bruised by an car on the runway. So they got gotTA delayed arrival into New Jersey, and then the MRI truck broke down on the way to greenbrier. So they couldn't even get the imaging done for their players until late last night, which is why we did not have confirmation of the Nick Bosa. ACL Tear the Solomon Thomas. Tear. He most hurt MC l. injury the Tevin Coleman multi week injury with his. Who? Let me wrap Jimmy Garoppolo Gosh Jerry low and high ankle sprain. And they're saying that at least they think Jimmy Garoppolo injury is not as serious and that he can function but boy looking at him, it's also the way you play right? It's the position and it's the way you play. We don't think of Jimmy Garoppolo like he's not doing Lamar Jackson things, but he has to be able to pivot. You know he does spin a lot. He has to plant and turn around hand the ball off all of those things you can struggle with with a high ankle injury. So I, I, just don't know that they're gonNA WANNA, put him back out on that turf with this injury because they and the turf is another conversation. But let me say this if the players already perceive it to be a problem and have expressed literally using the word anxiety about the situation and watching other players go down that adds to the onus of the decision making and putting players who are recovering from injury or dealing with injury back out there, and so that means to me. I'd really question whether you're gonNA see George biddle. Next week, we know the depot Samuel is out and the forty niners have three games. I believe coming up on their home surface yesterday's grass, and so I wouldn't be surprised if the guys who are questionable and up being out until they're back on aggressor goodness grills to. Feels like feels like the entire team has succumbed to. The curse of Stephania Bell. Me I've been. In? Quarantine. Look. I'm in a bunker I'm not. All by myself, the power. Of Your Life Long. She's been like facts are facts right? This is all science, but she's so sweet to find. You is lovely. Yeah. You're putting this on her I'm not putting it on her I'm just saying this is what it is. That feels cruel. How am I being cruel. Claims to find your blaming to sing. It sounds like this is what happened here I. mean, it's not mean if you're telling the truth, I'm not sure you're telling the truth how you know are you to call me a liar? How how? You did. It seems you had evidence circumstantial suggestions but the way my entire life is built on. suggestions. Have, you ever listen to this podcast. Say, it's like we have comments that I just like I'll bet you the words circumstantial suggestions will not make it on the podcast, and then here we are ca. I just wanted to highlight what's defined. You said that there was a lot eight. The most important things from a fantasy perspective is that you might have to make plans for no. Brahima. No Kevin Coleman this week George Kill, it sounds potentially out as well. We'll cross that bridge a little bit later on in the week, bring it to the waiver wire. In just a moment but first, the rising generation of NFL superstars have been dropping dimes and creating space for years way before they got the league. Now it's your turn create your own highlight reel with x factor abilities, and innovative new skill. 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So feel let's start with you for people out there looking on the waiver wire, your number one pick is who well. So the answer is Mike Davis but I WANNA start this segment by noting this and we talk about this frequently. It depends on what you need and that's A. Again. That's a common refrain for us on the show, but it's especially pertinent right now. We know the timelines for a lot of these major injuries we know the Christian McCaffrey is expected to be out four to six weeks. That means that Mike Davis almost certainly has. Minimum for maximum six weeks value. So if you're sitting there and you're saying to yourself, well, I lost Christian McCaffrey and you have the number one or maybe one of the three best waiver claims this week and it's obvious where you're going, you're going to Mike Davis but obviously saquon Barkley is out for the entire season. So it's possible that you could add dion Lewis and have fourteen weeks of value. No guarantee. So I just think it's important to assess your needs and we could sit here answer thousand questions from the Stream but the reality is almost everybody's situation is a little bit different along those lines though and I would agree with that and by the way. You may not need a running back, but you may be ahead of somebody who does why? Sometimes the best offense is the defense like just because you don't need the running back doesn't mean it won't be a valuable asset for you to then trade that running back to pick up or one of your other running backs to address a need. You may have somewhere else and I also want to note that sometimes what we do in fantasy football and this is not, it's nothing more than human instinct is we? Try to jam square pegs into round holes. So Hey, Christian McCaffrey is out. ooh The panthers, all of a sudden have a ninety five per cent running back player out for I've or six weeks. Someone's GonNa take over and even though Mike Davis isn't Christian. McCaffrey Hey. Carries that's got to equate to fantasy goodness. I'm still managing expectations for all these players. That's a lot of mitigating circumstances but I still like Mike Davis. As the number one waiver, add this week and I do like him as a player very talented pass catching back last week he had eight catches basically in the second half. He is a guy that in previous stops has had a chance to be a factor in not quite a workhorse role. But. You know a more than change of pace role and he's been really solid like this player I know that the contract ended up being one they found to be expendable but I've seen it a few times this week the bears gave this guy, three years and nine million dollars. So Mike Davis is my number one at of the week and I think there's very much a scenario not saying it's guarantee but that He is as I said, yesterday a weekly eighteen to twenty five, top eighteen to twenty five. Bernie back option it's depend upon volume it depending on the palm, the passing game dependent upon nobody that we don't participate nobody that we would think right now comes in and gets twelve carries per week hundred percent. It's a it's a pass first offense. You think about Teddy Bridgewater, you know who since he came into the NFL. Out of the thirty nine qualified quarterbacks, he's thirty seventh, an average depth of target, which is again, just serve them numbers that we've that just tell you what you know. If you watch football, he's a Dinkins dunk guy and so likes dropping like stumping passes off to the running back, which will be Mike Davis so. I'm with you there secret squirrel you had thought yeah. We got a social question here. I want to throw at you guys at Jose L. Nineteen, zero six wants to know how much of my Fab should I spend on Davis and or Lewis and this is tough I understand FAB is always difficult. This is probably going to be it depends. So I'm just GONNA throw a number out there and I'm going to let people decide. If. You can. If you wholeheartedly disagree that's fine but I'm GonNa give you my suggestion. Twenty to twenty, five percent of my budget would go to Mike Davis this week? That's about what I was. GonNa say I and here's the reason why what if next week and I god I hope it doesn't happen. But next week we could have another player who goes down and could have that players backup be even more capable and I. I don't even want to suggest I don't even mention hypotheticals right but. I don't want to tell you to spend fifty percent because we could have a rash of injuries again and I also don't want to tell you to spend five percent because that's not gonNa work too many people in your or smart enough. They have their instincts up especially in a FAB budget league we're your family where you you know people need to evaluate these decisions every single week that I think twenty to twenty five percent and you know it's interesting just. To get into whole preseason philosophy but there are people that are basically anti-insurance right and pro insurance I've always been a pro insurance guy and. This is one of where it would have been great for you to have Mike Davis on your roster. If you had drafted Christian McCaffrey here, he was basically free in-draughts but we all agree that he is going to be a very productive fantasy player for as long as Christian. McCaffrey. Out we obviously hopes EMC makes it back soon. And fully healthy. Let's move on now and seems like next on your list you're going to New York where I? It's Dion Lewis and Wayne Gaughman I did write about Devante Freeman who does have visit schedule with the giants. So it's possible he enters the mixture and one way or the other the giants probably need to make some sort of move at running back because they were a little bit thin there as it were because you have saquon Barkley liquor invest a bunch of money into the roster at running back when you already have perhaps the most talented back other than Christian McCaffrey in the NFL. So I, if I had to pick one of these two and they're both available and over ninety nine percent of league. So you can go find these players and basically every week I picked the on Lewis and simple and maybe a little bit too much of a crutch but it's the fact that he was the backup last week Wayne Gaughman was inactive. They trust him a little bit more to do more things within the offense. Both of them were capable fast sketchers but dion Lewis, we a sample size. Great that it was a few years ago. But Dion Lewis was at one point top ten fantasy running back for a prolonged stretch that was during his dynamite days with the Patriots mostly charged on being a great pass catcher. Much more powerful than you'd expect for a guy who's five seven, five, eight in terms of stature. So I would go dion. Lewis. Overweight. And I would keep an eye on shefty's twitter account for the possibility that the giants signed. devante Freeman as soon at potentially today. Absolutely, so here's let's play this out because again, we're taping this at. It's now ten ends eleven am. Eastern time as we tape this, if we get the alert from shefty or mort or you or one of our intrepid reporters here, T SPN. F.. That devante Freeman hasn't fact signed a contract with the New York giants where do you put him in your ranks? So so you've got the three you've got Louis and Gelman basically it to some just trying to think I'm helping managers out. Here's here's the. Get go ahead, devante Freeman be number one, and here's the reason why would be the number one overall or the number one of the giants overall, he'll reassign Mike Davis because if you loss Barkley right, you need a miracle right now I am like I came in this morning very cheerful person as you know and I like slogging through our our chat that we have early in the morning with Matt who co manager of the team in the warm League Daniel and Kyle and just like I'm bummed like it stinks and obviously I'm bumper sake his family more than anybody else. This is why I skip the pre show meeting those on a meeting in just hanging out. I don't WanNa bum anyone out I just come in and then I bring my sunshine right to the show. So you need the player that I I am the reason why I'm advocating for Devante. Freeman is that I could be wrong here but I, think if there was a player that I have mentioned or will mention amongst running backs I think he has the best chance to, let's say a job over by like week four. And then gets role in like again Mike Davison shelf-life. I don't know the Dion Lewis is is going to be I. Don't that I would count I would think between he dion Lewis Devante Freeman and Wayne. Gaughman Devante. Freeman best equipped to handle a weekly big time role and the other thing. I'll say if there's a chance because there's a chance he signed somewhere else to, of course what I think but I think to your point like we talked about Freeman yesterday. But in case you missed that conversation essence very what We talked about is the fact that Freeman didn't get the deal he wanted this summer. So he's decided to wait it out. He is with drew Rosenhaus who as you noted, field as an agent that gets deals done often has incentives laden into the deal. So my guess is that Devante Freeman who wants another payday probably isn't going to get a massive one here is probably GonNa go to a place where he can get the most playing time and has the best chance at earning whatever incentives are in that deal so. I'm just again I don't know anything I don't know drew I don't know devante I don't know anyone in his camp but just sort of reading the tea leaves here. If you're him, do you think you're better off going to Philadelphia to back up Mile Sanders you know to be dumped at at somewhere like Philadelphia. One of the other places he's been rumored to go or you better off going to the giants which, hey, because the injuries saquon Barkley, they need a fulltime guy. Yeah, I think the. Interest, crystal clear. It's so again it's possible the Devante Freeman signs there, and then basically has like a five to eight touch per game role but I think if you were to evaluate of all the names of discussing who could have twelve weeks of fifteen or plus touches draw tapering movement number one suggestion if found out today, he was signing with the giants I'm GonNa rip through a couple more here matthew starting with Daryl Henderson Junior. Los Angeles. Rams running back I. Do we've Stefan you in here because? We do have two other rams at have been banged up in the backfield. What are you know? ACRES MALCOLM BROWN Acres left after just three snaps and Sunday's game because of a rib cartilage injury, we've talked about this before on the podcast they're very, very painful. Now, the rams are calling him day to day according to Lindsey theory who covers the rams for us, but the thing about it is sometimes it's just a question of pain and where the location of the injury is because every time you breathe, you make that area that's torn move and separate. So it can be really tough to come back from that. I wouldn't be surprised. If he misses time Malcolm Brown a pinkie injury ultimately had surgery on it but we saw him fight through the end of the game despite the injury and this is something he can potentially play with as long as they're comfortable that he can secure the ball. Okay. That is interesting. Information Malcolm Brown I would've thought he missed some time but sounds like he could play in week. Why don't you when you hear the injury described as both Lindsey described it as defined it it just sounds really painful. Your rib cartilage is like. I mean, it's like it's Like I don't have any cartilage on basically a big you only. Survived only cartilage. Right exactly like he can't break Jello which is basically what my body is. But like I'm just saying like if you're like a finely tuned athlete, the way camakers as that sounds really really anti sound and especially when you think about what a running back has to do like when you're twad ahead, you're turning and a lot. Yeah. Flak jackets going to have to be probably going forward. I take shots your ribs. That one that one's a tough one here. One thing very quickly say about Daryl Henderson, here is, is that like if you he's the guy that has by far the lowest floor, I think all the people because it could easily be camakers job in two weeks or I mean listen week one around. Yeah of course right. But he's also I think potentially the highest ceiling guy out here because they come in Freeman probably the to the cross, my mind I just I mean I just saw when you watch the eagles game you're like that's the kid we saw Memphis like he looks. Like, he's got some to him right and he's they're not scared to use them between the between the tackles and the rams obviously are very good offense, and so we know what the lead running back of Sean mcvay offense can do so. Again. I. Think Henderson might be my choice if I was fine at the running back position and I just wanted to take a flier. So to speak I didn't need a guy this we LE- agree completely agree with that assessment if you are not doing so out of necessity I would be adding Durell Daryl Henderson out of just roster death and upside because he's got, he's got mass he's got the lowest floor but the highest ceiling I think of all the guys that are out there just WanNa. Rip Through One more here. Before we get to the wide receivers at Josh. Kelley. We've talked on a bunch on this podcast but how about the workload in week two? He had what? Twenty three rushing attempts last week I mean twenty three, the fourth most in the NFL. Now, it did not come at the cost of Austin Akwa we feel better about heckler after week too but he's GonNa play a lot for this team and this team looked pretty fun offense I'm telling you this Justin Herbert's got something to him. So keep an eye on Josh Kelley. Not sure that he can be started anytime soon. Because it's so it's a little bit disconcerting that he has twenty five touches a game, and you still can't really start him but still a guy that we know like they clearly like him enough that if something happened Austin. Actor. In the same way that are in a different way than the. saquon Barkley the giants have to go shopping. I'm not sure the chargers are going shopping. If something ever happened Austin realize this the chargers lead the NFL with eighty three rushing attempts through two weeks. Again Remember Anthony Lynn former NFL running back is their head coach eighty, three, eighty, three rushing attempts through trees eighty three, and so I would argue that of all the players we've talked about today that Josh Kelley has the highest floor. Now for the next six weeks, it's probably Mike Davis for songs McCaffrey's out in pr it's probably Mike Davis in terms of. From. This point till the end of the season, it's Josh Kelley again. The only thing that's changed with the chargers this year offensively really is the quarterback I mean like it's still Anthony Lynn it's still that staff in place. After by the way had both Austin and Melvin Gordon as top twelve fantasy running backs last year, and so if you think they've switched a little bit but Josh Kelley has. you know seventy five percent of Melvin Gordon's role last year, which is what it sort of appears at least through two weeks I know they like this kid a lot twenty zero. There's no joke and by the way he had some passing game usage as well last week and so to your point, it's not at the expense of Austin but this is a team that wants to run. We saw spark with Herbert like I dunno like Josh Kelley to me of all the running backs out there. I think has the highest floor for the rest of the season are wide receiver time and Davante Adams obviously banged up for the packers this past Sunday before I mentioned the two players who could be his replacements once against to finally return to you anything to note on Devante Adams status yet another wide receiver with a Hamstring injury, right but the good news is he was lobbying to get back into the game. The packers had a sizeable lead at that point. This looks to be a situation where they held him out to make sure it didn't turn into something big. So I think we can be fairly optimistic even though it store early in the week fairly optimistic that we'll see Davante Adams by read on that for whatever it's worth my read on that is the same that we could maybe should see him on Sunday night against the saints, but we'll mention the two wide receivers and again I don't think you can invest in both gift sorta choose between. has vowed scheduling in Allen. LAZARD forced to pick one or the other I go with. Marquez. Vow Desk Gatling only because mvs has a bit more big play upside but member the offseason rhetoric of the packers not having enough at wide receiver through two weeks. They have shown that maybe they are good enough at wide receiver and last week these players both cool off after a great great game in week one. But Val scantly had a seventy five targets edge over lazard and a sixty four to forty five receiving yards edge over Allen lazard. The packers offense is. Humming right now, I know the schedule in terms of who they face over the first two weeks. I mean to incredibly banged up secondary's vikings decimated the lions decimated does not get easier this week going to New Orleans that saints team. As you noted, last night if you're GONNA do one thing, it's not throw those opposing cornerbacks there so so good but still if you're looking for wide receiver depth, maybe these two names are wants to consider especially in the event. Davante Adams does not play on Sunday night even if we think for now he probably or could. Against the same what are you doing anything else? Okay. Now aren't move forward a couple more here. Davis back on the waiver wire just searching them last week. Now, there are three, thirty, six with a touchdown wasn't obviously quite as busy as he was in week one, but the offense looks really good. Ryan channel is just bawling again through two weeks proving a lot of the naysayers wrong and. Know Aj Brown and I don't think there's an update from Stefan. Yes. All bypass on asking her but you know the fact that he missed practice all week last week bom bruises to find you noted in our conversations last week those aren't fun to deal with for a wide receiver might be Corey Davis remains the man for a little while here amongst the wide receivers in Tennessee for those that play. Like the match this week to against the Vikings. We talked about. That Secondary Again Ryan Tannehill very quietly threw four touchdown passes last week. Ryan Tannehill has been rock-solid Daniel I. Know we're going to get into some defenses here but just real quick. If you had eight tight end that you liked off the waiver wire this week, who's you're pretty good list and go check the full column for all them but Jonah Smith would be my number one choice I mean as long we're talking about Tennessee, he's available more than fifty percent of Espn Leagues did you know that through two weeks? He's the second best tight end and fantasy. Now obviously, it's small. You know we've only got two weeks and he had a massive game in week who their Johnny Smith is somebody that we talked about as a sleeper in the preseason that they liked with no Delaney Walker a guy that's really athletic. That's really good after the catching. So again, we think about this offense that can be passing more than people initially thought they don't have a particularly large targetry. It's like it's AG Brown, it's Corey Davis and like and Humphries and that's the guy that got paid but. I'll I'll go ahead and jump in there and say that my favorite tight end this week is John Smith and I had Mike Ezekie right there as well Mike for the dolphins excellent athlete ridiculous catch this past week and you should know my now he had an unbelievable second half of the season last year. So on the radar for those that maybe are dealing with either an injury or your roll, the dice on someone like Gronk in the preseason as you're starting tight end. Early. Obviously Jordan Reed. Had A big week as well. We heard defined you say, maybe there's concern about kit because of the of the turf in in Metlife Stadium and so there's there's a side one you give them a cookie. He's GonNa ask for Glass of milk man I said you get one a tight end, and now we're talking about another one whatever I heard that saying in a long time. But it. I was promised to cookie by the where. Where I was promised to cook. Cook very upset he. Goes I don't bring me a cookie. For one week rental Jordan. Reed looks like obviously it's a good match up here and kill maybe out and I'm GonNa know I gotTa give some love to Logan Thomas who have been talking about for quite some time. Yes fourth one. Give me a cookie I shut up about tight ends because we eat my cookie that's the problem three D.. You're not going to keep talking tight end three defenses to consider Tampa Bay, they played the broncos on Sunday. Of course, as we know, is Jeff Driscoll starting for the broncos. So a favourable matchup in terms of inexperience, young quarterback, they're playing against the titans who as we know are good defense and they play the Vikings. Kirk cousins has just been brutal so far. This season, he had three interceptions this past week an ugly ugly day for the Vikings offense other than delving cook and the cardinals. They actually have a pretty reasonable schedule coming up they have after plane last week at your Washington Football Team I. believe they finished with nine fantasy points last week they have alliance the panthers without Christian McCaffrey almost assuredly and the jets. Man Yes, pretty good lineup. If you're by the way if you're looking for like a super week three streamer, the goal to play the jets on either ten and a half point favorites in the cold defence is much improved this year even though they did lose. Maliki. Hooker to an Achilles injury loss. All right Daniel I got a question before we get into some social questions here. SMART trae decisions informed by IBM Watson here and I want to know. So we all the information that we have. But sometimes, if you lost the you lost saquon, maybe the waiver wire is just not enough right. So it is certainly an avenue to consider. Your may not have a great option on the waiver wire and this was a proposal from the IBM. Watson trade assists and I want to walk you through it. It would make sense and while you might hesitate, the proposal would be to acquire Clyde. Edwards. Elaine his teammate Sammy Watkins he's got a head injury right now you trade away Dj more of the Carolina, Panthers J. K. Dot it's now I think the person who would be receiving. More JK. Dobbins would be banking on this. Okay. I believe that you more. We'll get decidedly more involved than he has been through two weeks. Maybe I have pretty good running back depth and I'm just sort of. Laying out a possibility you get Clyde Edwards layer in the first round you get Jonathan Taylor in the third round you get Kareem Hunt in the fourth something like that right so you have three really good running back she might be more primed to trade away one of those top players but you don't love your wide receiver depth and you believe in jk Dobbins obviously, jk Dobbins is a very talented player. He plays for a rushing attack in Baltimore that finally got going in the Fourth quarter this past week, and if he eventually becomes the guy in that Backfield as we've said throughout the preseason, he could be a top. Seven eight ten twelve running backs that would be the line of they're my personal preference is generally speaking to not trae the best player in the deal. So if I'm the person training away, Clyde Edwards Layer, I might be chasing a bit more but those are the some of the reasons why you might talk yourself into this trade that was proposed by IBM what are couple. Number Right. There will have now I'm saying like going into. All right couple social questions here I. Think these are actually really good. This comes from at Amber Kevin, are you concerned about Gallup's production just ten targets thus far this season you WanNa go first. Yeah I am. Go ahead. Let's listen a little bit a little bit listen. CD. Lamb is is great. I. Think they're coming they like I was skaters going into the season. Okay you had. One. He's the third best water vernon team already and beyond that like. About the game scripted the first two weeks it's been great. Yeah and he's not getting targets. Now, he could turn this thing around. He's one injury away from being a top twenty option. Obviously every single week if something happened to Amari Cooper or CD lamb but Dalton Schultz was a thing last week obviously Zeke's and get his in the passing game. I'm a little bit nervous museum. I guess for me. I want to wait and see again like he had that ticky tack that Ticky Tack. And Week one his his line looks a lot different there. It looks better I still think. I still think he's a very talented wide receiver I. I still think no doubt being exclusive like I don't think like thinking about how this offense is built I don't think like we're GONNA, look like boy too bad Dalton who's getting nine receptions every game like I hear you listen cd-rom is really good so that that is absolutely concerned but we saw this last year when Randall. COBB was in that thing, this offense is good enough to support three fantasy relevant wide receivers on Sunday or three relevant fantasy relevant pass catchers right past Sunday Dalton Schultz instead of Michael Gal was that third but I believe over the course of the season Gal who are I actually am still I'm still in on Michael Gallup slightly concerned but I'm not ready to hit the panic button just yet it was told I was getting a cookie. You will get a cookie after the show Matthew Berry I, promise I'll give you a cookie. Asam guns from at. Home grow following up on. That is CD LAMB now, a weekly starter after last week. I don't believe so not yet. It's getting there though you look good to looks great getting and again, I just wonder and maybe this week, it will be the same gain script because they're going to Seattle to play the seahawks and the seahawks are just humming right now I don't know that I have I don't have my my top twenty. No but look at it's close Pacific Question Okay Oh Terry maclaurin Corey Davis, plus Tannehill can. It's basically are you starting CD lamb over Corey Davis and I would? Okay and and no circuit in terms of what the roster were being told Yeah we start arrived here maclaurin with Corey, Zana Hill, and then a person talks really. Good running backs in a good quarterback. Obviously. Yeah, I would start him over over core Davis as well for those that are wondering speaking generally, he is not someone that is yet cracked my weekly top twenty wide receiver. We agree we agree there. But yes, just in just in general and I haven't done my rankings yet. Certainly they have a nice matchup with Minnesota this week, the titans do but in general I have no issue with the idea of starting. Lamb over. Corey Davis. Social. Question from s sauce should I start panicking on Hilton? Yes. Like I'm those are two great matchups in a row. Yeah. robbed a touchdown in the end zone. Yeah. So I know Frank Reich was encouraging yesterday saying it's GonNa get better but to great matchups the I guess the Saving Grace Year that he's really talented beyond that we know Peres Campbell's out. So exactly that's the a lot I. Yeah I am concerned already. Yeah. Yeah I think. I again I think it is it is reasonable to be concerned but I'm not in full blown panic just yet. Hey. Going to send it out to the bunker for Kyle for geico trivia question of the day. Already guys we saw Darren Waller account for just. Forty three percent of his team's receptions last night I wanNA know who ranked second in week two percentage of team receptions. Multiple choice question because you guys have been struggling lately. Oh Wow. Tell me I'm wrong. See. You're not wrong. Somebody's going to get this right. All right. Jordan Reed Be Terry McLaren see Stefan digs or D. Calvin ridley highest percentage of team catches in week two than Darren Waller. The options again our during read Terry McLaren's to on digs and Calvin Ridley all four of those players found the end zone had very, very nice days. So Stefan Ya, you want I sure why not I've been on I've been in a slump I got beaten badly in one league because Maclaurin I'm going to go with him seven for one, twenty, five and a touchdown last week for Terry maclaurin is that good enough to be thirty six point eight percent is the question Matthew your thoughts are. He's trying. Jordan Reed. Lord but then I thought you know what volume Lawrence I'm going to read. Read as well. Jimmy Garoppolo left. If we're going fourteen for sixteen in the first half turned deliver math here. Nick mullins game in the second half maybe seven for eleven. So would it be correct that Jordan Reed is the answer at thirty six point eight percent Kyle soppy. Jordan Reed ranked seventh for the weeks Terry, mccaren second back. Schroeck to. See I saw I saw. A COP to it. I was gonNA write maclaurin and then device I. Thought you know what I? Read I'm going to go a little bit different trivia. Question. Washington. I was wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. Well, done. Yeah. All right. So on tomorrow show you know we're going to you know it's interesting. There's so many parts about the show that I love but I know which part I hate. I tried to help you. A matter. Washington or Haber part of the show tomorrow on the show we will talk about week three rankings. They'll be up on ESPN. Dot Com later on we have our live show tonight. If you are signed up, check your emails for your Lanc we'll see you tonight at six PM Eastern time for Daniel and Stefan Stefania Matthew Onfield Awesome Magnon wrote a pass daily Dot Com check it out. ESPN plus plus many other great sites dealt with the. Promo Code launch gets you fifteen percent off piece.

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RB Rankings Part 2 + Preseason Takeaways & BIG NEWS

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RB Rankings Part 2 + Preseason Takeaways & BIG NEWS

"All right a bunch of preseason week one games in the books. We're gonna talk about him on today's show before we do that. I wanna remind you about the ultimate draft kit. Now is is the time you gotta get into the ultimate draft. Get you gotta follow along as the trends in what's going on fantasy. Take place players moving up down injuries. We've got it all on the ultimate draft kit including projected stands for each and every player for the entire two thousand nineteen season profiles on everybody. Sleepers breakouts bus values on a whole lot more including a mobile app. Check it all out at ultimate draft kit dot com welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast coming to you from pristine dot com studios with your host. Does andy holloway jason moore and mike right <music> welcome in oh. We're back you know with back. The football might say football football football is football. I was watching some of his preseason football yesterday. I was in the office alone just talking to myself saying man. I love football so excited. It's back. We have a jam packed show today. I know this one's gonna run long so all of you with an extra long commute. Just be extra thankful man. It's friday. Eh if you've got to take a little bit in on saturday morning yeah we might be a little busy saturday morning. We'll see yeah. We do have a big announcement will be you <music> in the news section. Today will comment on all the preseason games saturday afternoon to twitter is a dangerous wild place in the middle of preseason games as as well. You know it's it's the best place to be live. Tweeting during preseason football is possibly one of the greatest these things of the entire live live tweeting. Yes live reading probably not gonna help your fantasy team just but he'll out you'll get many status updates about about my pants yeah important and they may have of your pants it cuyler cuyler last night. Obviously we're from arizona so we're we're excited to see him out there. <hes> my goodness what he could hand the ball off. He could run around them now. We'll talk about at our biggest takeaways from the players that played last night handful injuries things like that and the big announcement in the news follow us on twitter at everything that's going on on you want to be on there at the f. f. ballers on youtube youtube dot com slash fantasy footballers and we appreciate each and every one of us supporting the show by subscribing. This is the time to get connected acted. Stay connected preseason kicked off last night. There are five week one games remaining but let's let's look at the slate from last night. Let's start with some high level advice for fantasy players on what you look for in preseason games <hes>. I was asked this on a radio show a couple couple of days ago. <hes> what do you look for. I was excited about looking at you know the rookies. They're getting out. There may be some of these tight ends that you're excited about since we've seen them breakout in preseason but what i'm not looking for for me is the stat line. I'm not looking for total stat line numbers and how you know these these these games do not matter first and second team third team offense as defenses flowing in and out. I don't care about that line. At the end of the day care about what my eyes see from certain players on the field and are they proving some of the narratives true about their talent yeah so some of the things that i look for is basically the order of players who's getting in. I who's touching the ball. I who's the first man up and sometimes that is completely irrelevant. It's important to say that because look. I mean you know marla mac kerryon johnson. They didn't play for a reason. You know you also. That's also something to look for certain players. Here's who don't play right. Who's being protected. Who is the coach saying look. I'm not even taking a chance but it will change through the preseason and that's important to know like preseason week. One is so much fun and is mostly meaningless because the thing that is important to these teams is who are they cutting down to fifty three for more than how does my starting lineup do so many starters don't play and the first quarter you know like you said into. You're not looking at stat lines. Because when did it happen that the happen against the twos the threes and the offense is vanilla. I mean nobody's showing their best offensive formations expense yeah and same with the defense look the most impressive play from kyla. Murray last night was not the six completions to me. The most impressive play was escaping the pocket like sonic the hedgehog yes. That was some oh he's going to do. He's going to do some of that running in the n._f._l. That's the thing that i'm paying attention to <hes> but at the same time a lot a lot of fun stuff on the field last night yes absolutely i think you should start <hes> at at i wanna start. Los angeles chargers chargers because there is a running back situation with melvin gordon holding out. We have to move on like melvin. Gordon is going to hold out. That's the way i'm looking at it because that's what he's saying is happening and then and the chargers are dug in the charges are very dug into the point where the announcers the local announcers were talking about that melvin gordon's pictures nowhere the program the the lists the depth charts melvin gordon you don't he may not even exist or have existed according to those guys mike mike and i came up with the solution on the foot cats yesterday that you should that detroit detroit just trade carry on for melvin gordon. It works for all parties. Get get your marshawn lynch and let carrie. I don't know a good thing you actually want that because austin ecuador is very he's a very good player and justin jacks. This is not far behind but you did see got. The first team work yeah. Ecuador is going to be the starter <hes> but the question is the a._d._p. Gap that is likely to arise is going to skyrocket. Justin jackson certainly will move up but how are you guys feeling like. There's people drafting rafting right now. Are you taking us an equity taking that shot in the six round each seventy five from where i it half point league and then you're gonna have to spin round pick well. Let's look at the names around. Do you want. Do you want accurate in gordon steady kenyan drake who played last night <hes> you. How long do you want kevin coleman. I won't call than i want. I would take both of those guys over. I saw answers. No i think based on the guys around. I'm not personally taking eck. Learn the six round especially when you can get jackson late in the draft even even as the weeks go on. You're still going to get him very mike. What about you. What are you doing on with those guys you looking at jackson late. We talked about maybe right. It's not going to be late for him either so it will still be later than earlier yeah. Oh absolutely that'd be fantastic. I've i think i've talked about it all off season and during her mock drafts. I'm always trying to get us to draft him and that's when we thought melvin gordon was playing. I i think he is an a very skilled player and he's he will be involved in the passing game you. You already saw that yesterday so i i think he he could be worth that. Six round pick even though you may only get four starting games from him used but built into is standalone value should gordon come back where that's tougher for justice jack. We are gonna talk about gordon today. This is the running backs <hes> ranking show part two so gordon lands in the second set because we're trying to mitigate the risk of melvin gordon gordon right now. Equa did fumble yes but that's been on the goal line yeah. We're just injustice. Jackson did run into the touchstones. He did after that so all right. I think this is one of the top story lines david mapra him so he sees his uh-huh opportunistic <hes>. How many more can we get in here. <hes> probably a lot look. David montgomery look like the real deal last night yeah. He did <hes> shifty breaking tackles. You know i'm pretty sure you went up against the second team defense he did that. That's the one thing that was interesting to me while he like you can't tell you do. That's the thing there's a couple of guys. Balaj and montgomery had great games both of which had the entirety of their. They're great performance against the second team. They weren't the first guy up but you can't knock them for being great against the second team but you do need to realize like so it was really weird. Mike davis mike davis was out there getting the run with the ones at the beginning of the game which was really surprising so it's week one presides surprising time not freaking out or even thinking anything about it. Let's see what happens in week three and again it comes back to what did the talent show you on. The field. Montgomery didn't do anything to assuage asia. Stop us from believing in his talent. <hes> that's probably the <hes> the old veteran tip of the cap. I think it is mike davis marcus mariota ota. We don't talk about much didn't look good only completed four passes but all four passes were completed. Adam humphreys pronounced pronounced with an for every incomplete was also targeted to adam humphreys like you had one wide receiver. It was absurd so i the only take away their ryan tanna hula great. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that they make a shift at quarterback. If mariota struggles this year well the problem is mario has struggled for his entire career and the most of it. He's shown flashes but he certainly did not look greater. Winnie had that started the season before the injury where he was yes no interceptions in the red zone hyper efficient running the football. You had a window into the potential that team yeah. Pepperidge farms by humphries are you. Are you looking at humphries n._p._r. Formats romance as some of the more interesting than you were before the game. Yes i'm interested. I'm paying attention. I'm not interested yet because again. You didn't have <hes> corey davis <music> out there. You didn't have the a._j. Brown so you know all right trains it's out in force for a couple of undrafted free agent wide receivers devers specifically jacoby myers wide receiver for the new england patriots looked great on the field last night six catches and impressed and williams wide receiver for the miami dolphins the reason that those names get brought up at all because both players. It's not just one game in a stat line and the performance on the field. It's also all of the preseason hype around camp. Bill belichick came out. Jacoby myers talked him up in camp. Same with preston williams in miami both players made. I think pretty pretty impressive n._f._l. Style catches all this to say dynasty awareness. Is this the time we're looking at jacoby myers impressed and williams. I'm more interested interested impressed and williams. I think there is a path and the way that the players have been talking about him. He is interested interesting to me. As a deeper dynasty player fire jacoby myers i mean it was a little bit later in the game that he was really doing his damage. Maurice harris came was he's the one that i'm paying attention onto for redraft. I don't it's a long climb for jacoby myers to get into the actual anywhere of relevance for fantasy to me <hes> you're you're probably right and people should know that mike's probably right all the time on under after free agents. There's only one or two victor cruises for all the other guys as the flash in the priests yeah if you bet against all of them you're gonna you're gonna win more often than not being said the pathway to relevance in new england and the wide receiver core right now it doesn't go beyond and <hes> philip door set and and ataman sherpa on the outside. Are you looking at player. There is a there's a way to work your way into do that situation not that i believe myers well but i would pick them up and dynasty leagues. I would look at him because of the praise sure grew that jay did you. What was your takeaway from those those two guys yeah. I i agree with you. Any myers is interesting to me. When you get the drum beat. You're on a great team and then you back it up but context matters. It was later in the game aim so paying attention. Look if you're if you've got a trash dynasty team i went. I went to look and say okay. Can i add my are you saying that you have a trash dynasty to sounded like you know i'm i'm saying i went to look and i was like i don't have anybody to drown but he has myers inner dynasty lee what self call i got him if he'd okay so. I got him a few days. If you had a trash diner dynasty team then you can pick them up. That's what i say. So who oh i did walk right into that. The last this one i want to talk about is because this is i'm. I've got to give them a tip of the cap. I was very excited in maybe a a little admittedly negative fashion to see daniel jones. Come into the game for the giants. He was very sharp. He made two two passes in particular taylor. A a slant route to golden tate that was right on the money a perfectly time pass and then his touch down to the corner was a sensational throw. I only bring that up to say if daniel jones as actually showing anything to the giants it might be him playing into the the job instead of just losing the job. If he has a big pre season the ground swell in new york. It will be huge. Yes so so you're right about that a couple of other quick takeaways for me. <hes> draken balaj both got time balaj was a little bit better <hes> miles in howard on yards per carry wise. You shaking your head over there did you. Did you want to change your opinion on the the yards per carry. No it was a i. I saw you put that note in here. I guess we just saw it differently. The first quarter drake had <hes> the the whole first series blog had the second series that was all ones career ones in the second series bloodshed basically every place ran into the backfield tackled and got the ball thrown to him where he didn't pay attention and went to his back back and then it was a three and out whereas drake did make some good plays with that first team and was the first guy up but balaj did continue to have a good game after that okay mile sanders jordan howard split first team work both do much but need to see miles earn his way onto the field with the ones early <hes> right now miles sanders is one of the best values in all a fantasy football <hes> whether it lasts. I don't know but you need to get a hold of him. If you're drafting rafting anytime in the near future he's value lamar jackson very solid in his debut. Josh allen still inaccurate. Josh l. does what cam newton does which is look ridiculously bad on some throws and look ridiculously good on some throws but you're right. That's he looked like trash and then oh there's the arm alway where you know it's just it was so funny listening to josh allen. Yes the news like two different times. They're saying you know he's working on the intermediate that short game. They've got co beasley. He needs to stop throwing the ball far all the time in every single time they said that snap look look at me through logic. It was so go on q. Had them piped in. I would throw darnold out there. He looked great darnold after that. I passed that should have been an interception interception the rest of the drive. I thought he looked great so speaking to what you said yesterday andy the belief that the jets could level up here darnold could be better than we think. I pay attention engine him as preseason goes on. I'm sure there are other storylines with your favorite team. We haven't covered but look the brown great baker <hes> lauren's on before the game. If you have a heart condition do not watch the browns opening drive because you will be deceased. Shove looked great to all right. I think we'll pause it there. We've got the running backs to get into and some other news. We'll talk about some injuries here. Let's do it <music> news notes from around the league presented by sleeper all right speaking of sleeper guys. We have some very very very big news huge. This was not. We didn't know this was going to happen happen. We're just going about are just average day which right now isn't very average with all this going on fantasy but we were invited needed to a very very very special league on sleeper by none other than juju. Smith schuster also also was born in your heart yesterday. Could you contain yourself at the thought of i assume you will just draft dude and trade him to ju ju. Do i will i will i will draft him one and train them to do do for nothing in his honor. I got you do just like to bestow him. Yes he does as you are yourself now. That being said we are co owning a team in this league that also has ninja in the league zach efforts in the league karl. Anthony towns in the league is going to be high profile sat man's there. I just wanna smoke these people in traits. That's all i want to do. Is i want to you jason. If you grab carry on i may force you to trade them to know for sure. I have to get that value but here's what's so cool about this. We've been invited. Were in this league league and we are drafting tomorrow live eleven a._m. Pacific two pm eastern. We're going to be streaming live on on youtube so if you want some extra saturday content. Obviously we're five days a week. Now we had saturday shows in july. You get one tomorrow youtube to dot com slash fantasy footballers. 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That's why i'm going to be like a hundred. We're going our russell one hundred two thousand to one. I start feeling that i'm still putting money on ju ju if i if i start from the fifty and he starts from the end zone is it a forty yard dash outside the full field if i start from midfield and he starts at his own end zone does he beat me. Yes he yes. He probably does one hundred percent. It's a challenge. A formal challenge has been made. I don't know i fifty. I think you could youtube dot com slash the fancy footballers tomorrow eleven a._m. Pacific <hes> see how we due move your league to sleeper. You'll you'll you won't regret it all right. <hes> some injury update news sad news for jemaine curse last night. He's done for the year there. There was a lot of <hes> he's talking about the drumbeat i mean he was having a great camp in detroit. He's going to be done. <hes> david chow san diego union tribune's wounds david chow one of the best injury experts out there dr david chow yes. Yes <hes> antonio brown news look he. He believes until brown will be fine and and ready to go for the season. He may not get a lot of time in camp but believes he'll be ready for the season so take that for what you will. We don't know the future but right. He's not as worried as others are yeah and it does mean could get off to a slower start. Being ready for the season doesn't mean you get preseason. You don't get as much camp with the new offense. I've heard changing teams. That's that's not the best way to start right. It's true and then you counter that with the hardest working best wide receiver in the history of the last ten years so i like the pivot there yeah. You thought i was gonna say the game. It's three of the last year i wasn't going to go beyond that. 'cause it's not true jerick mckinnon the jerry mckenna receive a platelet rich injection. His knee soreness continues. He will be sidelined a minimum of another two weeks. If you listened to mike shannon and talk about it he equivocated on any timeline. It's kind of like we're just going to be patient with jerick. If the range of outcomes here is he could end up on. I r if he doesn't recover the way they want him to recover. They already took him off. A pop can't put him back on pop so this is not good for jerry. Mckinnon is technically the second setback now for him. They were they were expecting to not have him on had to put them on pup because he was having an issue gave at that time he comes back swells up. I think this is you know. I'm i'm not anywhere from drafting now. Jerick mckinnon is off the board. I'm not getting him for value but kevin coleman the matt burrito. Tell me calm and order up yeah. I think they're look if there was clarity to the san francisco backfield. I think we'd all be all about it right so there's is this starting to be a little bit more clarity. I have nothing against your mckinnon. When i tweeted a few days ago about it has nothing to i love the guy i wanted him to succeed last year so great friend of the show three he's been on the show things change in the n._f._l. That's just a pure factual thing. If if you have an injury you're going to be adjusted on near range of outcomes and i don't know if he's going to be back on the field tevin coleman looking like a real steel spent so much time talking about matt brita because of the value of picking every draft but don't ignore kevin coleman 'cause that offense is going to run the football. Kyle shanahan dominates when it comes to run the what he does with the running game even last year me last year. They didn't score bunch but oh my goodness were they running team and there we did have an update on kiki cutesy who he he went down. Yeah it looked like a one of those horrific preseason situations but at least according to ian rappaport he's saying it's not a major ankle ankle injury but i would expect kiki will be shut down for the preseason. Hopefully he's back week one. It's really it's really rough mentally went in when a player who has an injury prone label amigos out injured again you you just can't okay. Maybe maybe this injury wasn't a series. It looked at first but i don't know man man. It's hard for me to put my confidence in my draft pick in that when he went down people were oh not again. You know it effects. <hes> probably affects do johnson if cute if not mrs time it also affects the shawn watson output a little bit agree <hes> but that's today's news notes. Oh my gosh we got running running back ranking skies. I'm very excited before we get into that one. 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Roman is giving away a free online visit and free a two day shipping. When you go to get roman dot com slash footballers. That's get roman dot com slash footballers for a free visit to get started. Get roman dot com slash footballers coming running bags all right one through ten running back rankings on yesterday's podcasts off. You want to hear us comments on some of those guys at the top. Make sure you listen to the yesterday's show. We're looking at our consensus half point per reception option rankings and these these are fluid. I mean these things <hes> we're tweaking and modifying stat lines for the twenty nineteen year doing it right now every day. You know when when you over there what are you doing well. We always not always modifying rankings. Let's start at eleven because that makes sense right. It comes after the one through ten nick chubb why you kind of sound like i was arbitrarily picking a number. Let's start at the no. It's it's this next. <hes> mick chub comes in at number eleven. I've got him up at eight jason at thirteen mike at eleven <hes> <hes> he burst onto the scene last year in the wake of the departure of carlos high. He forced to trade pretty much. The dude was such a bee's that they said we gotta get carlos outta here. We gotta dump this contract and they somehow were able to do it. They unleashed nick chub. He's a fantastic running back. The only knock coming into draft season on nick chubb was the amount of pass catching volume. He's going to get because going to be the banger and he's great at it for a very high powered offense and so he'll have a ton of touchdown opportunity but what separates him why he's a little bit back is the the pass catching opportunity that saw at least a a reasonable bump up when when the browns traded away duke johnson he'd i i do expect dontrelle hillier to be more of a replacement for duke johnson in at least until <hes> kareem hunt comes back like i'm not projecting acting all the targets are now going to nick chubb but he did move up i gave him i gave him fifteen fifty more targets in and that was enough to move him up into the <hes> into a solid rb one for me. Yeah i honestly i've got him at thirteen right now. <hes> on a season long rankings. I don't feel good about having him that at low he looked a fantastic in his first preseason game last night as he did his whole rookie year coming out of college. She was an absolute beast. You worried about the injury that he was recovering from which was horrific. He's back and like you said mike high powered offense. He's a goal line guy and now if he's involved often the passing game. There's very little to be worried about and i'm not worried about despite the fact that cream hunt does eat in on my season-long rankings statistically basically if i'm in a draft i'm not worried at all about kareem hunt and we did talk about a lot of this and some of the other nuances on yesterday's show after the duke johnson trade yeah fold duke johnson to houston commentary on yesterday's pod joe mixing comes in at number twelve on our consensus running back rankings you l. let me let me frame my view on joe mixon right now because he's at thirteen and that's he's dropped down a little bit over this off season. There hasn't been really. I don't have any really good reason to dislike. Joe makes and other than kind of the well. The offensive line and offensive line has been beat up yes a._j. Greens injury concerned about the division. It's just kind of. I've i've mentioned this when we're talking about carry on. There's only a couple of guys on sub five hundred teams. They end up in the top ten at the running back position so you assume one of them's going to be saquon. Barkley is a carry on is it mix and obviously they can outperform the expectation in cincinnati. That's not outside the realm of possibility in the n._f._l. But i just kind of like my top in ceiling for joe mix in his starting to move down a little bit from where i was at the end of last last year i do think geo bernard will probably be more of an annoyance than people expect him to be. I'm glad you brought him up. Okay so because you agree or yes. The geo bernard is a is a good player. Especially in the passing of joe mixon has a three down skillset. I'm not gonna take away from that but you have a new regime. You don't have <hes> you. We can't rely on well. Marvin lewis went with joe mix and as a as a belco running back this last year you can't just automatically automatically transfer that onto the new regime the i think we all have mixing ranks one right here. He's an r._v. So we're not trying to take everything away. Hey from him but of of the running back once he's the one that i have the most skepticism on having said that i did have a lot of skepticism schism on him last year and he came through in a big way. Joe mixon was a dominant player for for fantasy football but with with the offense taking a massive hit with with injuries and <hes> an retirements happening to the offensive line. I'm i'm concerned about joe mixing and and there's a a s- steady drumbeat going from the beat reporters talking about specifically about giovanni bernard looking great this office yeah there were there were rumors of about g of giovanni bernard <hes> looking to be traded. Maybe that was happening and as the beat reporters investigated that they were surprised to learn that not only is that not true but they're working on an extension. I had not heard so i mean he feels feels like the opposite of a trade feels like the upset which was a little bit crazy considering. They drafted two running backs but they've got four four pretty darn good running back. There obviously joe mixon is is talented. He's going to be <hes> the primary back and you can make the arguments zack. Taylor's coming over from los angeles us where maybe he's going to instill in us mixing the way that they use girly. There are narratives to be better but in reality this is going to be a bad team with a a much worse off than they had last year and it wasn't the best and they're missing their best offensive player in a._j. Green so if i have to say who's going to bust a kind of echo what oh you guys think it's worrisome situation even though i think he's one of the most talented all rounded backs all rounded well rounded tolbert was more of the g anderson. That's nice all right mix and did miss a couple of weeks with injury last year and i think he's very safe for a double digit kind of guy. I think he's in that bell cow safe category edges when your office doesn't give you scoring opportunities which is something that he could struggle with. That's another one of those red flags. I'm gonna go as far though look the season's about to get started. Nobody has a win loss record yet jason so the bengals fans out there. I'm going with could be a bad team. Jason took the more definitive will be. I'm going to go with the could be because we don't know if there's hope everywhere jason that is hope everywhere right now. Do you have hope that the miami dolphins could be a good team. Yes i do. I've actually set it on this. Show okay that miami look. There have been many years ago. I i like this. New side of this is a positive man is good bringing positively couple years ago. People were dog in on the dolphins. Being the worst team in brooks. Is that was that was you sure it was. Maybe i'm learning learning. That's good teams surprise us every year. Every single year teams that you think are bad ended up. I love it. I think people thought the dolphins were a bad team last year and they were a seven in nineteen. Oh you know what right thinking through it now. What are you gonna. Everything's set right up. The bengals could be good thank you i mean i remember. You're the but they won't no no. No no no i. I i remember not believing in a couple of years ago. The the super young thirty two year old sean mcveigh. It was questionable questionable. The rams were a bad team under jeff fisher and it didn't look good and he'd turn them around in a heartbeat. I'm not saying that is probable but certainly rain. Check check this out. Check this out. The giants could be a good team. Well take it easy over there. Get out of art scroll back to joe mixing on on on fantasy football calculator in half point going to oh three. Are you comfortable going like devante azer. Julio jones jones then the turn comes back and joe mixon. He's he eight or one point now i i don't i don't really want to do that or if nixon's on your team going trying to hit the strategy that he's your rb two and you're going heavy in the first two that one that one or if i go the other strategy and take two wide receivers in dalvin cook look is there i would take him over over makes you might not have heard of him. Carry on johnson running back for the detroit detroit lions <hes> you can listen to any show. We've done in the last six months. If you'd like the rundown and carry on you can also go back to mondays my guys show where adjacent lays out yet another case for <hes> loving carry-on with all your heart has all your mind has a player with ten games under his belt gotten the the ground swell that kerryon johnson has there's an insert jason monologue mark in our show dr every time. His name was listed in the dock. We just we know we have to wait jason. What i heard on the forecast history now i had to get. I wasn't on the foot cast. <hes> i had the privilege of going to a dental office instead you win did <hes> i heard you you. You talked briefly about the worry. What just look if if carry on carry if carry on isn't what i have said an built up look i will note with you for clan my i i will i will i will l. of of tears i will cry myself into a puddle and and the reality is is this. I see both sides of it right. If the darrell bevill rb don't believe you i really do i have worries is why when people keep sending the questions of do i keep carry on in the third word or some other player at great value in the twelfth. It's you know it's the other player just because i love karen doesn't mean i can't see the range of outcomes. If darryl bengals rb one comes through or if feel riddick's last four years pass catching comes through and the volume is there for a talented carry on. I'm confident. I'm going to be right but if that doesn't doesn't happen then he's a running back on a bad offense of team project. You know could be bad offensive team and so he could disappoint. I believe in the talent flint. I believe that he showed it on the field and i'm hoping and i see pads for his opportunity but if you really want to hear me talk him up. Go listen to monday's episode because i'm a believer my flags planted but i've i've never i've never constructed as large a monument. It's so i'm terrified side of blows. If the i'll be able to write taking those things down i mean that's that's a lot of work. Let's put this into draft context. Damian williams has been seeing the dip right so right now. His eighty p is to ten meanwhile kerryon johnson has jumped on the back of an eagle rule and his soaring across the menial. He's jumped on the back of a bald eagle off aw and get that roman coupon code again. It is at two twelve yeah his a._d._p. Is in the second around so with those two streams crossing our eighty. Are you gonna take damian williams or would you rather pay up. You know that for carrying that's that's a good question because i thought you were saying. I thought you were just going to say is two twelve to high made me choose between two players there at across where they've gone bone thugs and harmony. They are at a crossroads. I'm sticking with the offense right now. I'm gonna stick with the offense but it's getting tighter. Do what did you make indy reads comments as reported it yesterday about more of a committee backfield damien williams. You've already made the point ripe. Williams is gonna be this pass catching guy from home matter what which is worth. It's weight in gold. Did you make anything of that comment concerning but when i i read when i read through it it was <hes> this this is rough but then i spent more time thinking about actually hearing the the context and he he was saying i use a bit of a committee in philadelphia. Can i read the quote so yeah yeah we're talking about. It and people might not have heard it yesterday on sirius x._m. Radio interview he said andy reid said i did a little bit of that speaking to a running back by committee while i was in philadelphia kind of a running back by committee deal and we had some success with it. We'll do that here in kansas city and he went on to name name <hes> the back of name them. No i mean he drafted a kid at running back and the other williams isn't bad either. That's what i mean by sort of arlos member so the the kid that he's talking about is darwin. Tom is darwin thompson and if andy reed thinks that <hes> if his example this is the committee approach he didn't philadelphia where he almost always produces a running back. One gimme that committee i i do agree with with andy <unk> as the carry on truth or and as someone who's cooling on damian williams because i don't believe in the talent look this is the perfect talent versus opportunity opportunity situation. I'm taking opportunity over talent at the running back position. I would take damian williams there too but i don't think to twelve is too high for carry on in a vacuum. It could be a good pick if the other guys that you know if damian williams is gone in europe to twelve i don't think that's too high personally and despite what it may appear like on the podcast jason and i do have you know some very controlled discussions about carry on from time to time and we were talking. You know on slack the other day and i said one. I hope he's great because i know people love you. Jason and i know they believe in you and number two. I just hope he gets the opportunity around the goal line. The garrett blind had seventeen goal line carries a seventeen within the ten carry on had to last year if if he gets the opportunity inside the red zone that's i mean we already saw joe mixing do that last year joe mixon on a team that wasn't that good had nine touchdowns carry on with nine touchdowns. He's he's going to be where i am ranked one hundred percent invalidate everything you believe about him. Annual beat your complete as a human behind the agree. He is great devante freeman at fourteen and josh jacobs at fifteen. I will tell you this. My confidence in devante freeman has grown a little bit <hes> from from a couple of weeks ago. It should have and part of that had to do with listening to head coach. <hes> dan quinn talk about his running back room because if you want to say any re- doesn't know the name of his players. Here's dan quinn is he knows the name of them but he doesn't know which one's the two is it. Ito smith brian hill different players are going to have opportunities and he talks about free and he knows at the top of the mountain and then it's kind of like to a to be to seat to d so freeman will have the opportunity to get the workload road that we've seen in the past willie be hurt. I don't know this is a player who was number. One in twenty fifteen number six in two thousand sixteen injuries have been a huge problem. Love the offense you talk about believing in an offense freeman will have every opportunity. I'm rising a little bit. Yeah i mean i i'm rising. Do you remember when devante freeman. His rookie year was terrible. I mean it was he was really really really bad and then he asked early lab. I really remember and then he really leveled up so ito uh-huh smith last year was really bad. As a rookie and you go okay can he do that. Devante freeman jump and according to one preseason first quarter that we shouldn't overreact to the answer is absolutely not. I mean nowhere and the way that his coach has been evil. I'm just you know. Smith is not a worry to me to devante freeman and handcuff freeman with ito no anymore. I wouldn't agree to handcuff him with anybody because you don't know who it's going to be but my point is if the other guys behind freemen if no one can step up and actually be a relevant quality player then then the only worry with freeman is injury and injury injury alone. I think he's going to have the role. He's going to have the goal line work. He's going to have the pass. Catching work is on a good offense is just will he be injured in and i know you know our own matthew issue bets <hes> who does a lot of injury analysis does have worries does not expect him to be able to go the full sixteen without a reactivation so there is risk there but so you talked about josh jacobs. We've got him back to back. Who are you drafting out of those two. If you're on the clock and let's say you've got one running back already already in this is your rb to yeah. I jacobs ranked higher than devante freeman. I do and i realized that is this. You know we haven't seen jacobs on the field before and there are red flags with his his production in college. The number of carries that he's received over you know in a senior not is production but his opportunity where he we haven't seen a full workload from josh jacobs which he will be asked to do this year. It seems that way but but i do <hes> i do have jacobs rank slightly higher than freeman. It's just preferential. It's probably a little bit of the fantasy football bias that comes with the unknown. We've seen devante freeman at his peak. We've seen him slide down the mountain. I've never seen josh jacobs at its peak and if it's back to back i'm looking for the upside of josh jacobs there where i'm not sure that the upside for freeman exists anymore but but but it's a you know it's close to me if you're specifically talking about those two guys. It's there's talent an opportunity for both of them right there there so you can't tie break with that so i'm tiebreaking with the offense and i'm gonna take the atlanta falcons over the raiders for perspective on rookie running backs from two thousand twelve to twenty eighteen eleven running backs were drafted in the first round and that's josh jacobs was of those eleven seven finish the rookie season as a top ten fantasy back. That's that's part of what i'm banking. Jacobs is the draft capital matter so much at the running. Yes insertion and seven of those eleven guys have ended up in that top ten wherein p._r. World guys were living in a world where that pass catching back matters jacobs can do that <hes> as kim freeman asking freeman freeman absolutely and that was that's been the dip lately for at least in two thousand seventeen. It was the targets dirt cutter who is back now <hes> to be the o._c. For atlanta in freeman freeman was getting targets at mount. Mount ryan is willing to drive. The ball downfield a little bit more than derek carr shown. He's been willing to do derek. Carr is in love with the line of scrimmage. Oh yeah i mean here's a picture on the wall. He's never never met a short passing say no to so we'll get to follow. Josh jacobs in hard knocks as well. <hes> i do think there's a world where he could finish in the top ten but that certainly that means that you know he's going to need need to get the workload appropriate for an rb one situation. I i look at it a little bit like when christian mccaffrey came into the n._f._l. Where people knew the passing game aim was going to be there but wasn't sure about how much rushing work mccaffrey would get in your one so you're gonna see the passing game almost guaranteed for josh jacobs cubs. I hope he gets all the running work that i expect a <hes> because i think the way i look at is i. The rushing work will be there for josh jacobs well. Let's combine number. One overall just say like rashard is still still around and he was derek cars best friend in the in the short pass game not projecting that but just saying i know the early down work will be there for jake. I really wanna see him on hard knocks so h._b._o. You could go ahead and show him this week. Yeah oh i saw he was on he was on this week. He wasn't highly. He was sitting in the back of that big meeting room. I saw he was paying attention. <hes> that reminds me hard knocks with the falcons and devante freeman first year and how much people rooted for him to have success except for mike <hes> aaron jones and leonard for net ad sixteen and seventeen in the rankings gosh. I'm really the two guys. I don't know what to do with the category. We're in hidden right you. These are the tough ones yesterday. Aac wants a good player. Aaron jones is at fourteen in my ranking seventeen and seventeen and jason and mike's right now being drafted as the rb fifteen his current average draft positions the middle ba third round last year. We saw everything we wanted to see from aaron jones in spurts. I guess the last thing we would have wanted to see was him on the field more consistently say it it was <hes> it was a tough ride for jones to get a featured role. He started off the year with the suspension then he was in the doghouse. Mccarthy mccarthy insisted assisted that jamal williams play in front of aaron jones eventually sanity prevailed and jones became the number. One of the depth chart was absolutely sensational insatiable for for a stretch of weeks before going down to injury speaking of injury. He is not practicing with with a hamstring injury so i want to get your guys temperature. We don't like soft tissue injuries in training camp especially prolonged ones and earned jones so far it has been a prolonged absence from from practice jason. How are you mr risk adverse sir and we and if you've been listening to the show you know that jason loves aaron jones. He was in consideration for a my guy correct that is one hundred percent correct and that's how much you love and and if i'm being completely honest the biggest reason that i decided to not make him a my guy you know i i had a a lot of guys i liked so it wasn't like i disliked aaron. Jones is just other people on the tiebreaker. Was this hamstring issue. I don't want this season and i want to remember from last year to not by the injury dip. I believe that aaron jones was gonna get a lot more expensive when he's getting hype and camp again that preseason as in work and lo and behold he hasn't been able to because of a hamstring issue and so he's staying low and drafts. He's staying where look talent wise we on the forecast. Yesterday we were on believable. What a great town. What second runback what running back thirteen through twenty four could actually finish the season as the number one running back. This was my answer area. Jones jones not outside if you replace him if alvin kamara and aaron jones switch spots where you project aaron jones would be one of those top four or got to have players. I mean look from weeks eight through fourteen last year when he actually did get the work he was the running back five just behind alvin kamara <hes> and that was on the green bay packers that didn't run the ball much they literally ran the ball fewest in their franchise history and and the you know they ran the ball the lease n._f._l. So <hes> i worry about the lingering concern and i don't want to draft a guy hillary. Answering your gas asked who is currently injured but the town is there if you're a risky player if your swing for the fences up as a moon aaron jones your pick because if he gets the work he's is going to be great. We've never seen him on the field be inefficient. He's on what projects to be a good offense. So if you know yeah the questions posed do you believe leave. The floor will involve jones more in the passing game. They might true answer to that is i. I don't believe that he i would probably lean lean more on. I don't know slash no. I don't believe that so. You don't believe that necessarily earn jones had thirty five targets last year i lean on the yes side more over under thirty five live targets moore okay yeah bay. I don't know if that saying enough. You know what i mean and that was in you know he didn't play full-season so thirty five on a on a full sixteen game season sound on small but early in o._t. As before the hamstring issue a lot of your twenty six perception a lot of a lot of beat reporters were were talking talking not about what the coach said wanting to get him involved. They were talking about how involved he was in their practice in the <hes> getting a screen or we're getting a wheel route or going down feeling catch pestle. I do believe that he is more involved in the passing game. I love. I love what you brought up on the forecast. He is one of the players that could be at ease in the remedies abilities to be number one. If you're on a great offense and you get to work and you do what he does efficiency wise just look what alvin kamara can do with the the football his hands. Just give them the football <hes> you listening and to be dealing lewis last year. He was targeted pretty heavily. He we got the work. He just didn't do much with it. I think as well and jamaal williams the counterpart that the the two of the one two punch also has a hamstring injury right now so so leonard leonard fournette he was the one of the players drafted very highly last year that destroyed your team your soul your soul wijk won. Seven points didn't play for two weeks week. Four four points didn't play for five weeks missed a game for fun and week thirteen so had a couple he i mean he had three straight monstrous weeks from weeks tenth through twelve leonard four hundred any winked at you and went away leonard for net is so difficult because if he's if he is on the field he will put up he he will put up numbers even if he doesn't doesn't really want to and i know we had some bad games last year from him but he will get such a massive volume and he his as last year. He was actually started to be involved in the passing game as well. He is the featured back for this team unless somehow they're going to go to alfred blue <hes> a little bit more than we expect which would would be very bizarre because you can't guarantee that leonard fournette is going to be on the field. He's had a numerous injury zad numerous off field incidents with his own coaching staff to the point of they were able to strike his guaranteed money out of his contract because they were so upset with with <hes> with his actions off of the field. It's he's not guaranteed not to be the guy. Let's turn to some numbers here. Rushing attempts per game since the start of two thousand seventeen. Zeke is number one levels number two number number three. I'm gonna guess leonard fournette no herschel walker. Oh no it's leonard fournette s. nineteen point one rushing attempts per game volume <hes> volume so there are those kind of the clouds all around leonard for now but you're not mean. You're paying less for him. Now because of those clouds being drafted rb sixteen. I know he's got. I'm not threatened by anybody. In the backfield. He's got the injury-prone label and and you know you could say deservedly so for from his history but you know you look at aaron jones and leonard fournette. One of them is injured right now. One of them is healthy. They both have tremendous upside. I mean in the last two years. When you talk about running backs consistency leonard fournette one of the most consistent performers in fantasy the only guys who have finished finished ahead of him as far as an rb two or better on a weekly basis is kamera gordon elliott girly bell and barclay. That's it so just a matter of will he stay on the field. He is healthy right now. He's dropped in eighty p because of the the years of just ruining people's fantasy years years. Do you take that. It's like for me. Once you know shame on you fool me twice shame shame again won't be fooled won't be fooled again but here's his draft price. Here's the pack that he is sandwiched in got aaron jones leonard for nets right after and then it's marlin mac freeman josh jacobs meaty you gotta make your your pick of one of the if you're if you have the pick he he's in a standard league. Leonard fournette is more exciting to me because pure volume and golden opportunities. He's easing the top five in scoring touchdowns over the last five years to our in the last three years since he came into the league. You don't generally get a guarantee in the passing game. We don't know what that offense is. Gonna look like in that regard and you don't generally get big plays from him since he came into the league. It's been like the lowest percentage of his runs. Are of you know ten plus yard runs runs has been forget at the bottom of that list. The big plays you saw in college. You didn't see as many of them in the n._f._l. Specially over the last few years but nineteen touches a game. I mean that that's that's in the realm of outcomes for him. In sanford lake all right we have melvin gordon plugged in at eighteen. This is kind of i mean. This is risk mitigation placement his first alvin gorge one hundred percent because you could have a player that belongs in the top five or you could have a player that you know shouldn't be drafted or touched if he doesn't come back till we nine yeah. It's it's hard to have an actual like discussion of what melvin gordon can do. It just comes down to this melvin. Gordon signs a contract right. Now we get a breaking news. We hit the button. Malgorn x. full extension jason words. He goes my r._v. Five he's right after the big band is it goes to five or six. He goes to five or six for me <music> as well so this is just this is risk mitigation where do you. Where are you willing to draft a player who could could be their week one. He might show week eight. We we have no idea are there drafts. Were going to be drafted ahead of gordon if we get down towards the season and it doesn't look like there's headway are or do you go. Gordon wouldn't actor v six round as a team do that yeah. I think that's more realistic than than ecuador actually going above gordon because you won't ever get definitive word that okay. I'm gonna come back in week five. That's just not going to happen. That's where i see it going right now but it's <hes> you have insight here i don't i i haven't talked to the team or or melvin gordon's camp. I'm just basing this on the history of these types of negotiations the history on the san diego chargers in the los angeles chargers <hes> you know and what gordon's camp has said i'm saying he's gonna miss a month. The games no inside information. That's just intuition sure and he he was so great last year in only twelve games he was still able to be running back seven and that's why we're saying if he's there if he's good to go then and he's a top five guy all right. We'll wrap it up with marlin mac and derrick henry nineteen and twenty beyond that sony michelle at twenty one chris carson twenty. I'll just say all these names you talk about somebody. You wanna talk about that. That sounds number nineteen marlin mac twenty derrick henry twenty-one sunny michelle twenty two chris carson. You can go back to money's my guys shows. If you wanna. I love chris carson. If i'm right there with david montgomery at twenty three can and drake a twenty-four look to speak to chris carson and feel so stupid that he's our twenty thirty second ranked running back and to me. He's my twenty seventh ranked running back. I hate that i don't like that. I mean it just doesn't make sense. I don't see any world where barring injury he. He finishes his low and yet when i go and do the stats. I can't get him much higher but so this is just a p._s._a. To the fuck lynn chris carson is better than my ranking. I don't know how to move them up because we step as like it's like i said on the mike on the mic i show i don't the thing that there's the world where he finishes whereas a._d._p. Is which is like r._b. Twenty three. I think either is hurt and he's you know that just happens and i don't think he's injury prone own but it could happen or he's going to be a very very good running back this year. Yeah they ran the ball one hundred sixty eight more times than their opponents in twenty eighteenth. It also worked yeah. It did other players in this list you know. David montgomery is at twenty three yeah. He's being drafted ahead of that at r._b. Twenty one. I think is going to continue yeah. I've tried to temper my my stats for for david montgomery because he's a rookie and we can't guarantee that if he gets he gets jordan howard's carries and he eats into cohen's this targets that's i. I think that will happen but there is a world where those the opportunities does not come to fruition with with all of that work. You're sorry he's a player to watch over over the preseason see how he gets used. Make sure you're monitoring those those beat reporters will be talking does he move into the dizzy move into first team snaps on these next couple of weeks exact that meant that matters a lot to me yeah exactly because strong start to the year <hes> if if he likes that job then he he will move up a lot in my rankings as well all right but you wanna touch on jay or you good i mean people can go check out all the rankings at the ultimate draft on the ultimate draft kit. <hes> and we've got video on it around it. I mean i don't know the right word. We've got video breakdowns on on most host all these players in there that you know if you want more info you can look at those on the video page in the ultimate draft kit and you can check that out at ultimate draft dot com all of our regular rankings for the season or up on the website as well and a number of disgraced articles from our staff of writers putting information out there. Maybe there's a player that you want more info avalon. 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"Great news. There's a quick way you can save money, switch to Geico Geico could help you get great coverage at a great price, and it only takes fifteen minutes to see if you could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance go to Geico dot com today and see how much you could save. Most job boards overwhelmed with tons of the wrong resumes. That's not smart, but ZipRecruiter finds the right people for you and actively invite them to apply. So you get qualified candidates fast. Now that is smart. Try for free. It's a dot com slash os six Ono ZipRecruiter, the smartest way to hire. In the whole thing. The. Preview day. That's what we got. Riday October, twelve, welcome into the fantasy focus podcast Yulia berry to a Belva crew hanging with you getting ready for everything. You need to know four weeks, six, the giants. The saints alliance aren't a by this week. We're getting ready for everything. I got it. I heard it field in that was funny. I was like, wait a second in my brain. So slow three teams. Wait. There should be. Oh, I see. No, they did. They show I see field. You are witty in the morning. Yeah, you know, I'm up early. I'm McCarthy guy in the morning. You set the tone, hone cetera bed in the hotel tones sadder not cool. Keith gave the day great their field. He's the one who said tone Zetter. He was a little Jap little sarcasm on that on the field as making the bed from not cookie. I agree. He's feeling confident because of one. Yeah, no, I actually I was not. That was not a dig it feel at all. Doesn't look right at me, and he was like, watches, dig. I'm going do on field. And then he said it, which is weird. He's like, and then because I'm so nice. No one will believe it was actually exactly. He might, you know, secrets girl. We might need to change his name to passive aggressive, keep good. That'd be so good, passive, aggressive, Keith. There's the Cal throws up. Super cool. Keith on the screen right there we are the crew. Are we really your crew? You just said, it's the cruise all here. We accrue. Not my crucify. Who's wait. We go. Just asking, but I'm asking who else is in the crucial. Like when you go looking for trouble on the mean streets of Nantucket. Right. When you're Grizz right when you when you put the sweater around your neck and you're ready to go, go stir up trouble who's in the crew who's an exhaustive crew. I'm not in the crew who's is in the crew. Daniel Dopp right Damian Damian that no one knows who tile and Kyle. Yeah, they gotta five person crew. We had a really big team pretty much everyone, but me correct. Gave me weld on their Daniel. Let's begin with the bucks in the falcons. The game totals fifty, seven point five points. We expect a lot of offense in this game. The bucks run by last. We put a reminder that sometimes you're making decisions between the wide receiver to in Tampa Bay schon Jackson, Chris, goblin, Matthew Sean, Jackson, continue the early season magic. He's has far because he has been very effective down the field. I don't know. I'm just being completely honest on this because one of the issues for two Sean Jackson last year gay was he could never get on the same page with James Winston. We have yet to see James Winston and Sean Jackson, be good together. I mean, like like you would watch those games last year and it was just he overthrew Jackson by a couple of steps he under through him. They could never seem to get on the same page. It was one of the things that you heard in the off season from Jameis Winston that he came out and said, like, that's on me. I've gotta get better. So supposedly him in Jackson, worked out this summer, but obviously with the exception of whatever you know, a half against the bears, we haven't seen James Winston into Sean Jackson really play together. So I don't really have a great feel for how this is going to play out, especially given the emergence of Chris Godwin. I mean, if you look at sort of a numbers between the two of them, Jackson certainly has this last year in two thousand seventeen sixty targets to just forty for Godwin Jackson. Played to less games as well. So significantly more targets little eighty more yards. They both got a touchdown, Jackson target on twenty one percent Arauz Godwin target on twenty three percent Arauz, but I honestly think it is a bit of a coin flip. It is sort of how lucky feel I personally ranked Jackson over Godwin just because he's more of a veteran, and in Winston came out this summer and said to make point of it, but I don't feel great about either one to find you. We don't know of OJ Howard is going to play that values that impacts Cambridge by what's your read on OJ Howard's availability for Sunday? Well, it's interesting because at the start of the week you would has said he's not gonna play like it's still too early coming off this knee sprain, but then he's put in these limited practices and our seems to be some chatter about don't count him out chance. That's the chatter. That's right. We have done that Boyce before. It sounds like there is a possibility that he plays. I don't feel great when guys are really fresh off an east. This is kind of like an Ingraham kind of similar injury. Look good. And then it was like no, holding back, you know, he's a little more sore, so I guess Friday will be the big day watch for the practice reveal today, but it sounds like at least keeping the window open that he could show if he doesn't play. There's a really good spot here for Cayman BRAC method because the numbers show it Ryan Fitzpatrick. I'm sorry. Jameis Winston loves throwing to Kaman braid. Listen. He was. He was targeted on twenty percent of his routes with Winston this year, just whatever the limited time last year he led the buccaneers and red zone touchdowns and target for red zone route. Run with Winston under center. Mike speculation is that even if OJ Howard is active in this game, it Polly's on a limited snap count. It's probably not a significant role here. So yeah, I think given where Cameron break is and the connection with James Winston, I haven't the top ten play this week even if OJ Howard is active. He'd be a low end tied in one for me. Devante Freeman to find you has been banged up throughout the year. What's the latest on his. Availability for Sunday. I've seen two d. n. piece for him this week in practice. Yeah, that's not good. And and I think the worrisome thing people might see it in assume it's this NIA shoe and he actually has a foot bone contusion on top of it. That's not insignificant problems, especially for a running back. And I think you know, we've talked about this before. Dan Quinn on Fridays. You gotta be able to go out there and show him that you can run be explosive, and that's when they make their decision. I will not be surprised is devante Freeman is held up this week. All right. So let's keep it on the possibility. Devante Freeman sitting, let's imagine that's the case Matthew. We're just having colon slide up to Edo Smith slide up two in the rankings for week six. This is if devante Freeman, it's out. Tevin Coleman. That's that's. That's a great question. Tab in Coleman would probably be in the fifteen range and he'd be too. Yeah, he definitely be a mid tier Rb to here in Edo Smith, probably in the late twenties, high thirties, like, you know, like borderline flex play consideration here. I mean ITO Smith as had, you know, kind of a nice little run here. You know, we talked about this the other day, but as seen Anderson discussed on fantasy football now last week, even when Freeman was healthy last week, they expected a forty forty twenty split between Freeman Coleman and ITO Smith Smith scored a couple of times a season. They like them around the goal line here and what we expect to be a high scoring game. Yeah. Like if you're desperate running back in Freemen's out, you know Smith is worthy of consideration there because he's definitely a chance he gets into the end zone. It's a great match when we all have Muhammad's new and Calvin really inside our top thirty. Matthew and I have Muhammed's to top twenty two plays cavern Lee a little bit further behind. So there's not any of us disagree with the possibility of using Ridley or sununu just reminders news on a great great spot here. He's got at least fifteen fantasy points in three straight games. It's been great, NPR scoring and the bucks defense has been atrocious. He's failed on. I think around forty percent of leagues is Muhammad to looking for last minute flooded just say one thing because some people might be worried limited a couple of days with a hip injury. I would point out that he was this was the same designation as last week when forecast seventy three yards and touchdown. All right, he came to play. Yes, thank you available in almost forty percent of ESPN leagues. So if he's out there certainly worth consideration. Obviously he plays the majority of snaps out of the slot field. It's worth noting that from the slot, Tampa Bay has allowed the league high in yards and touchdowns. The second most completions, the second highest completion percentage. They struggle in all areas of the secondary, but certainly against the slot there. And so sue to your point is somebody that comes in at twenty one for me and the why receiver ranks he made my loveless this week. Last question just very quickly. I want to mention this. James Winston is still available in a ton of leagues, and I don't understand that he's forty eight percent available and leagues. This is somebody that even if you have a good quarterback, you should pick up because there will be trade value here. I believe he's a top eight fantasy quarterback mattress this week, but for the rest of the way, given that offense given the the skill set around him and how bad that defense and run game is this game is Atlanta's favorite in his game by three and a half points. I'm taking a falcon till you got. Falcons are three and a half point favorite. They are at home. Give me the falcons. Go Birt's fun. Yeah. Birds, but take the falcons. I will also take the falcons sweet clean sweep there. Let's go to London across the pond Seahawks in raiders forty, eight point point total. I don't even know teams that could travel farther to London don't don't know. Love governor. The weekly Russell Wilson dilemma is upon us is Russell Wilson worth a start in your leagues, Matthew, or anything about this match of suggest to you that Russell Wilson belongs in your lineup. We'll certainly Oakland is good. So that certainly, you know if there's things you wanna hang your hat on here in terms of in terms of Russell Wilson, right? It's a couple of things. I mean, first off three touchdown passes last week. So that was positive to see that. You know, seems like his pass catching core starting to get a little bit better. I know Baldwin do anything, but I did allow David Moore to get into the end zone twice raiders or twenty-third against the past, their thirtieth and scoring defense. So it is a bad defense. They don't get pressure on the quarterback for some reason. I don't know why that is. Jon Gruden can't seem to figure it out, but whatever forever reason they can't seem to get pressure on the quarterback feels like they could. They use somebody there. So those are all the positives for us. Wilson, the problems are is that this is a run first team. I mean, they are. They're averaging just twenty four pass tempts per game over the last three there. They, they have the lowest pass percentage in the NFL. So in a game that we expect them to certainly not be down to be competitive. We spent them to continue to run, which is one of the reasons why Russell Wilson who also himself isn't running just forty two rushing yards this entire year. Last year average thirty six game. So for me field Carson Carson, Chris. Jason, Chris Carson made the love list this week and Russell Wilson made the hate Lewis entirely because I think this is a run heavy game from. So he's just outside my top ten this week, and Chris Carson ranks inside all of our top fifteen to thirteen fourteen. Matthew had fifteen look at that harmony right there amongst ranker's Doug Baldwin's off the injury report. There's no more concerned about him being injured and dealing with that knee except for this one concern about him not being involved in the offense at all. I mean, look, I don't think you can dismiss the knee injury. He has. He said that he was not a factor in why who was utilized. So little in last week's game, but that all being said and you may be healthy this week. We know there's the potential for his needed act up later on. In the meantime, we can't predict that NIA king up a certain moment. We all have them ranked as they flex play this week. No higher than twenty three, no lower than Twenty-nine. You're just hoping against a bad Oakland secondary. Perhaps perhaps Russell Wilson says I only got the football once last week I to you too. Force-feed at the issue this week for Doug Baldwin and the Seahawks Jared Koga every week. Starbucks bollocks works. If that's how you felt after after Doug Baldwin secret goals, give me the rapid upside. No, I'm not wrapping it up. This is the London game you didn't. You didn't book not for us this week, so so balk might be a swear swear. So careful. Event, Jared cooks every week. Does that go ahead? What did say secret squirrel had field cook, you're no fun. You get with the tight end. Should that be? Should it be an every week starter? Not trying to poke the barium SAS now. Well, I would may ass with may. I'm sorry, secret scrolls. You're allowed to talk about Jerry cook because he's your favorite. I think I'm the highest on Jarrett. I think the highest, Jared cook like. I am not a fan of Jared cook, but production is production and they're certainly looking for him as well. Remember he leaves the raiders with four different endzone targets a season. He leaves the raiders with ten different red zone target. So endzone targets and red zone targets. He is the leader of the Oakland Raiders. I expect the raiders to have to throw in this game as well. So yeah, given the state of the tight end position, Jared cook comes in at five from me this week. I just got to be honest with you guys. I'm that person who says, no one can complain about NFL gains because we wait all year for them to begin. But this game is such a low watch ability score. All that being said, the Seahawks are two half point favorites, and I think they win and cover how about you, Matthew agree with you. I agree with you. Give me the Seahawks spina. Yeah, Seahawks Daniel, I think because Seattle has less of travel because they're already farther north right less. Less. Seahawks travel issue very quickly just because we're talking about tight ends and it's such a desperate position. I just wanna say that I didn't wait. We're when did we talk about tenants? Jared cook. Oh, Gotcha. Got, we'll just listen. It is a brutal position. People out there looking for anyone with a pulse. And I do think that if you're looking for a sleeper tight and I do think Nick Monette who is top ten in the NFL in terms of being targeted on routes among tight ends this year, and you think about the raiders who struggle against tight ends. They're giving the six yards per tempt to titans. I think Nick men at is a sleeper this week there on the injury report. We expect him to play the ravens go to Tennessee titans over under there as forty. One point that's low number right there wanted to have the conversation. I understand why, but the ravens running backs this week. I've got Collins ranked ahead of buck Allan. Matthew has reversed savant has them right next to each other. So you're kind of we kinda have all three bases covered because like what's the differentiating factor here for Allen versus Collins? Collins gets more work. Allan seems find the endzone more so. When you're deciding on your engines for our Collins or buck Alan to me, this is nothing more than so, but here's the thing. I think everyone thinks gets more work, but that's not actually true. Buck Allen has out snapped outs. Collins hundred eighty to one hundred sixty four on the season. Yes, seven more catches than Collins has targets his former red zone touches than Collins a season, right? So how many you know touch I guess is the point is like I believe I don't. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I believe last week I'm almost positive buck. Allen had more total touches than Alice Collins did. Last week. I'm almost positive, so I got sixty six total touches for Alex Collins. Okay. All right. And I have got a total of fifty five touches for Georgia's Allen. So my point is that Collins gets more work right more touchdowns last week though. Last week he out touched Alex Collins. So maybe there's a little bit of a changing of the guard here. You certainly can't feel confident in terms. Of your confidence? It feels like buck Allen's role has only increased, and it feels like Alex Collins role has only decreased since the start of the season. You think that's fair. If I. Rules. Because you see buckling going the end zone and as somebody who has him and has used him as a flex play, it was like the first two weeks. I'm like, oh no, this is a fluke. And then the third week when I really needed to flex plan like well, no, he he might be the guy who gets in the end zone and that's what I'm banking on. That's why literally he only got one spot higher. I'm just saying, I think expectations were perception coming to the season was Alex. Collins was gonna be the workhorse, and then all of a sudden to used to find his point. It was like, oh, oh, buck, Allen. Oh, interesting. Oh, that's vaulter. Oh, no, actually keeps going on. You're like, oh, you know, buck islands of thing. Well, buckle thing and then and then I'll Collins fumbles a couple of times in crucial situations. You're like, Hello. And then last week buckle and actually out touches Alex Collins like he had more total touches last week than out cons. Here's here's buck. Allen's touches by week nine eleven nine, twelve fourteen. So it's with the exception of that week, three game, it's heading in the right direction. Next quarter last week. I don't think this is like some major trend where buck out all of a sudden escalating up in outcomes escalating down as my point here. I think it's gradual, but I disagree with you. I think, yes, I do think buck Allen is trending up and I think outs collinses either trending flat or slightly trending down. Am I saying that all of a sudden buck how it's gonna get twenty five carries an Collins is going to be complemented back. No, I'm not saying that at all. What I'm saying is that at the start of the season, if you were projecting this, you would have said twenty touches for Collins and seven for buckle, and now it's like it's fourteen fifteen each. And so that is that is my argument here because I think buck Allah has the better chance to get into the end zone. I think I think that's why I have him ranked higher. I say, I say buckling it's more fantasy points this week than outs, cons grade. I think Alex Collins outscores buck Allen fantasy this week, put on board on the board, the win for me. Laughter. Fourteen targets last week. Do we all of a sudden trust the volume of John Brown is a volley. Volume freak is the target monster, if you will. After that fourteen target performance against the Browns last week, I don't know that he's a target monster, but it certainly was encouraging because he was scoring at a high rate. But the that was always kind of a knock on John Brown was he wasn't getting the volume, and then you see the volume increase and you're like, okay, there you go. Yeah, I mean, you know, I love my little John Brown, so I'm I'm the highest among the three of us on him, but titans of allowed a touchdown on over eighteen percent of deep pass attempts, third reign of we know that Joe flacco loves to Chuck deep, especially to smoky Brown. So I think he's a legit wide receiver, three this week. I think he is a viable flex plays. Well, I think they're going to be people that are going to say, if Dion Lewis is not perform this week, could he be dropped? Have we gotten to that point or conversely, have gotten to the point where you think maybe he deserves be played this weekend. I'm at neither point. I'm in no man's land. I'm on the fence as high. Dice, I went high on the on Lewis, and I think it's just because of his potential to be versatile is volume of receptions, twenty nine receptions over five games. He hasn't been particularly efficient fumbled recently, like I feel like he needs to get going, but I also think part of it, you know, if you look at the five games, you can't let them all together because there was a time when Mario wasn't in, you know, they they, we felt like their offense really wasn't instinct. And so to me, they're really just starting out because we didn't have Maria and then Marietta was not himself when I came back. So I still think there's an opportunity for Dion Lewis to move forward in terms of his production. But I don't. I don't know that we're there yet. The dice jump. The gun vigorous titans off is gonna make quantum leap this off season. I thought that you know made the ingenuity that come in from Los Angeles was going to really dramatically shift the way this team plays offense in the output in general Dion Lewis, Eric, Henry, maybe except for core was they've all under achieved? Well, they, they have completely underachieved. Brings up a good point though. I think it's been Mario. It has been in and out of the lineup. He hasn't been one hundred percent healthy. They lose Delaney Walker, who is a big piece to that offense as well. I don't think people appreciate they lose Rashard Matthews. I mean, what he's no longer on the team that was somebody that was by choice. They understand, but I'm no, I understand that there's there's, that's not an injury related thing. But my I mean, there was whatever he was expected to be part of the offense coming into the season when they when Matt leflore was doing his planning when Marcus mariota was thinking about how they were going to do it. So I think to that point, I have more confidence in Dion Lewis turning it around than I do Derrick Henry because at least there's been some volume there for Lewis, at least twelve touches in every game. This season. He's got a significant snap Ed over Henry when they're trailing, which is seems to be a decent amount here. Yeah. I mean, I think he's sort of borderline flex in as we get into the meat of the by weeks. I'm not dropping him just yet because I think there's, you know, a little bit of useless usefulness with him, yes, to you've got a lot of confidence in the titans week, apparently because you're saying she start Corey Davis, a wonderful game couple of weeks ago. And then last week in a tough match-up against the bills was brought back down to earth a little bit. Four catches forty nine yards, but you can get back on track the ravens this weekend. I can't. I think we've seen that teams have scored points on the ravens. It's not like they have been able to shut all their opponents out. So I think there's not particularly here for the titans. I'm still rolling on this theme that the titans have not yet gotten in and that there's an opportunity. So I do think Marcus mariota look better and I think another week of him being healthy and practicing and what Corey davises last week, I think there's an opportunity for them who was it? I was just gonna say, I was going to rebut by my fellow colleague here and say, I disagree Davis made the hate list this week. I think this ravens defense is better than maybe you give. A credit for them credit for their allowing touched on just three percent pass attempts this season at the store, lowest rate in the NFL. Remember the Jimmy Smith. Just remember they got Jimmy Smith back as well. They're along opponents complete a league, low fifty, four percent of passes season. That would be the lowest rate of the last six years. And so Marcus mariota who I've said this before and he has yet to prove me wrong. I'm not convinced he's any good when it comes to NFL starting franchise quarterbacks guy that went in the top two of the NFL draft. I'm just not convinced he's met that kind of expectation here. It's divine. You have Corey Davis at eighteen. I have him at thirty one. I say, Corey Davis has outside the top twenty five of wide receivers this week in fantasy points, feel aboard bed coming on Icee, Corey davises inside the top twenty five of fantasy wide receivers this week, put it on the board getting a lot of action today. I have a difficult time and the world are happy. Go, what other. One of these teams is I'm having a hard time figuring out there both three into the ravens are favored by two and a half points. I got the ravens in this game, Dan Huda yet. Yeah. I also have the ravens this, but I don't feel good about it. Shouldn't I got the titans and their high flying offense with Dion Lewis Davis. 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Where did it go wrong that that's fair. I've thought about that many times. Yes, I don't blame you. I do have confidence here in Andrew luck. I mean the the volume there and when you talk about the volume of Andrew luck, it is on a historic pace. He made the love list as well this week at this. So the last three years Ben Rothlisberger had three different games of thirty eight or more completions from two thousand fourteen to twenty seventeen. That was most in the NFL over that three year stretch. Andrew luck has three such games this year. I mean, it's unbelievable. So the volume here against a jet secondary that Canley struggle. Then the there in the bottom half of the NFL in terms of passing yards allowed. You know, fourteen the quarterbacks that early thirty five passes against jets over a thousand passing those Bortles and keenum and Stafford. So yeah, sorry, it's the last four years. There's cows, correct. Me last four years in terms of the bench off yesterday. About nineteen Hines with Marlin MAC back to practice in full, which gives an indication that he will be playing on Sunday deci highs remain as they flex play for you for me. Yes, he does. Yeah. I mean, we don't know what Marlin Matt's role will be, but I don't think it'll be similar tonight team Hines in the sense that win, they get in passing situations. We just talked about the volume there. We just it's going to be hind. You know, he's fourth among running backs in receptions, it's your like saquon Barkley James white anomaly Kamerhe are the only running backs with more receptions, the nineteen Hines, twenty two touch last week. When you think about his touches five to ten to thirteen to twenty two, it's heading in the right direction. He's earning the trust of that coaching staff and of Andrew luck. And so on a team that's throwing a lot yet. Give me the pass catching running back here. We all have him in the twenties as a flex consideration to find your math. You just mentioned how many completions Andrew luck has had so far this year, and we all know they're going to have to throw in with not y Hilton. Most likely this weekend, someone's going to catch passes for the colts. And by the way, just quickly, Eric Brown might not be available either catching. So the question I guess, do you is who could be available? And if you had to throw a dart at an Indianapolis Colts wide receiver which wanna be at? Well, it would not be back PASCAL who I threw into my lineup out of desperation last week almost found the ball in the end zone, but dropped a significant number of pessimism spend the problem right there, receivers, TY, so reliable for Andrew luck, and he's not gonna have him not this week and maybe beyond, but Ryan grant Chester Rogers. So see, I still feel like Ryan grant is probably his preferred target of the remaining pass catchers because it goes back to training camp when I was there and watching it was Ryan grant by TI Hilton side by side, all the time and enter liquid come over. It was always working with them and talking to them. And I remember thinking, wow, I didn't really think there was not much of a role for Ryan grant. The offense turned that maybe they had a premonition that they'd be without Jack Doyle and t y Hilton. Two of his most trusted targets. Obviously. LeBron's made a case for himself as being more reliable, but he's on the report with not one, not two, three, but four body parts next to his name, shin quad ankle and knee. So yes, yes. Well, it's, you know, it's all four things on on on the leg. That's all you need to buy more body issues. So I'm remains to be seen if he'll be available. We'll learn more this afternoon. But to me, I for me personally, it's Ryan grant or how about the just running backs to find it because we don't know if I was going to play in this game. He hasn't practiced either so far because of an ankle issue. Obviously, he's been far more productive of late for them, so they would like to have him on the field. Unfortunately, you know, Friday, a lot of teams now are waiting. You get deeper into the season. They're just like rest during the week. So unless you've got a clue from the team already or there's been an injury that was very obvious that looked like it could be multi week. They're not going to show their hand until Friday practice. Again, we're waiting to hear about that for Isaiah Crowell. All right. Keep an eye on that one. If he does not play in certainly below POWs values, escalates all the way up probably doing top twenty running back, play Matthews. And by the way below Powell even with has good as crow as been ball Powell is actually still getting more touches. I mean, everyone talks about obviously Crowell had that crazy two hundred yard game last week. Powell still twenty carries for ninety nine yards. I I mean, you know, so obviously that was a game they were able to run effectively, but he's gotten more of the touches than is air coil. And I agree with you. Crowell were to miss Powell's value would shoot up significantly. We didn't get into it with a cultural quickly. I know to find your prefers Ryan grant. I will say the jets really struggle against the slot. Chester Rogers is somebody that is going to be my fantasy longshot on Sunday just as a little heads up for those who are watching here. I do think Roger's has an ice game here as well. We expect Quincy Newman abounds back after a zero on five to argue last week remains though the jets most heavily targeted wide receiver, and the one that Sam darnold seems to still have the best report with all right jets colts. Jets a favor by two and a half point. So you gun with Matthew, give me the jets g. j. ATS ATS Jess scarf Jetstar Fanja. The colts. All right. I'll go with the jets. How about you? Daniel? I am also going with the colts, right? They were going even split on this one. We'll continue with our game previews right after this. Did you know ADT can design and install a smart home just for you, a new smart home at your service customized for your lifestyle. ADT can even close your garage door while your at your kid's soccer practice to help keep criminals and critters on the sideline. That's what I call goal keeping service. It's all controlled from the ADT app, four, the sound of your voice and back by twenty four, seven protection visit ATT dot com. Slash smart to learn more about how ADT can help keep your home safe and smart. Most job boards overwhelming with tons of the wrong resumes. That's not smart, but ZipRecruiter finds the right people for you and actively invites them to apply. So you get qualified candidates fast. Now that is smart. Try for free. It's procr- dot com slash oh six, Ono ZipRecruiter, the smartest way to hire. Preview day. That's what we got Friday, October. Twelve, welcome into the fence focus podcast. You'll berry defined Belva crew hanging with you get ready for everything. You need to know four weeks, six, the giants. The saints alliance aren't a by this week. We're getting ready for everything. I got it. I heard it field in that was funny. I was like, wait a second. It my brain. So slow three teams. Wait. There should be. Oh, I see. Did they show I see field? You are witty in the morning? Yeah, you know, I'm up early. I McCarthy guy in the morning. To set the tone. The bed in the hotel tone sadder not cool. Keith gave the day great their field. He's the one who said tone Zetter. He was a little Jap little sarcasm on the on the field as making the bed from not kooky. I agree. He's feeling confident because one two. Yeah, no, I actually I was not. That was not a dig it field at all. Doesn't look right, mania watches, dig. I'm going to field and then he said it, which is weird. He's like, and then because I'm so nice. No one will believe it was actually exactly. He might, you know, secrets girl. We might need to change his name to passive aggressive, keeping good heavy, so good passive, aggressive, Keat. There's the call throws up. Super cool. Keith on the screen right there we are the crew. Are we really your crew? You said it's the crews here, so we accrue. No, you are not my crucify. Crew whose wait we go. I'm just asking, but I'm asking who else is in the crucial. Like when you go looking for trouble on the mean streets of Nantucket. Right. When you grew right when you when you put the sweat around your neck and you're ready to go, go stir up trouble who's in the crew who's an excessive crew. I'm not in the crew whose in the crew Daniel Dopp right Damian. Damian that no one knows who tile and Kyle. Yeah, five person crew. We had a really big team pretty much everyone, but me correct. Well down there. Daniel, let's begin with the bucks and the falcons. The game totals fifty, seven point five points. We expect a lot of offense in this game. The bucks Rana by last week, put a reminder that sometimes you're making decisions between the wide receiver to in Tampa Bay schon Jackson, Chris, goblin, Matthew Sean, Jackson, continue the early season magic. He's has far because he has been very effective down the field. I don't know. I, I'm just being completely honest on this because one of the issues for two Sean Jackson last year. Okay. Was he could never get on the same page with James Winston. We have yet to see James Winston and Sean Jackson, be good together. I mean, like like you would watch those games last year and it was just he overthrew Jackson by a couple of steps he under through him. They could never seem to get on the same page. It was one of the things that you heard in the season from Jameis Winston that he came out and said, like what that's on me. I've gotta get better and supposedly him in Jackson, worked out this summer, but obviously with the exception of whatever you know, a half against the bears, we haven't seen James Winston into Sean Jackson really play together. So I don't really have a great feel for how this is going to play out, especially given the emergence of Chris Godwin. I mean, if you look at sort of a numbers between the two of them, Jackson certainly has this last year in two thousand seventeen sixty targets to just forty for Godwin Jackson. Play to less games as well. So significantly more targets little eighty more yards. They both got a touchdown, Jackson target on twenty one percent route. Godwin target on twenty three percent Arauz, but I honestly think it is a bit of a coin flip. It is sort of how lucky feel I personally ranked Jackson over Godwin just because he's more of a veteran. And in Winston came out this summer and said to make a point of it, but I don't feel great about either one to find you. We don't know of OJ Howard is going to play that values that impacts Cambridge by what's your read on OJ Howard's availability for Sunday? Well, it's interesting because at the start of the week you would has said he's not gonna play like it's still too early coming off his knee sprain, but then he's put in these limited practices or seems to be some chatter about don't count him out chance. That's the chatter. That's right. We have done that Boyce before. It sounds like there is a possibility that he plays. I don't feel great when guys are really fresh off east. This is kind of like an Ingraham kind of similar injury. Look good. And then it was like no, holding back, you know, he's a little more sore, so I guess Friday will be the big day watch for the practice reveal today, but it sounds like there at least keeping the window open that he could show if he doesn't play. There's a really good spot here for Cayman BRAC math because the number show it Ryan Fitzpatrick. I'm sorry. Jameis Winston loves throwing to Kaman breed. Listen a. He was. He was targeted on twenty percent of his routes with Winston this year, just whatever the limited time last year he led the buccaneers and red zone touchdowns and target for red zone route run with Winston under center. Mike spectator. Is that even if OJ Howard is active in this game, it Polly's on a limited snap count. It's probably not a significant role here. So yeah, I think given where Cameron break is and the connection with James Winston, I haven't the top ten play this week even if OJ Howard is active. He'd be a low end tight in one for me, devante Freeman to find you has been banged up throughout the year. What's the latest on his. Availability for Sunday. I've seen to DNP's for him this week in practice. Yeah, that's not good. And I think the worrisome thing people might see it and assume it's this knee issues and he actually has a foot bone contusion on top of it. That's not insignificant problems, especially for a running back and I thank you. Know we've talked about this before. Dan Quinn on Fridays. You gotta be able to go out there and show him that you can run explosive, and that's when they make their decision. I will not be surprised if devante Freeman is held up this week. Let's keep it on the possibility. Devante Freeman sitting, let's imagine that's the case Matthew. We're just having colon slide up to where does ITO Smith slide up two in the rankings, four weeks. Six. This is if devante Freeman, it's out. Tevin Coleman center. That's that's. That's a great question tab. And Coleman would probably be in the fifteen range and he'd be. Yeah, definitely be a mid tier Rb to here in Edo Smith, probably in the late twenties, high thirties, like, you know, like borderline flex play consideration here. I mean ITO Smith as had, you know, kind of a nice little run here. You know, we talked about this the other day, but as seen Anderson discussed on fantasy football now last week, even when Freeman was healthy last week, they expected a forty forty twenty split between Freeman Coleman and ITO Smith Smith who scored a couple of times a season. They like them around the goal line here and what we expect to be a high scoring game. Yeah. Like if you're desperate running back and Freemen's out, know Smith is worthy of consideration there because he's definitely a chance he gets into the end zone. It's a great match when we all have Muhammed's new and Calvin really inside our top thirty. Matthew and I have Muhammed's to top twenty two plays cavern Lee a little bit further behind. So there's not any of us disagree with the possibility of using Ridley or sue just reminders news on a great great spot here. He's got at least fifteen fantasy points in three straight games. It's been great, NPR scoring and the bucks defense has been atrocious. He's available and I think round forty percent of leagues is Muhammed to be looking for last minute flight. I just say one thing because some people might be worried limited a couple of days with the hip and drought point out that he was this was the same designation as last week when forecast seventy three yards and a touchdown. All right. He came to play. Thank you available in almost forty percent of ESPN leagues. So if he's out there certainly worth consideration. Obviously, he plays the majority of snaps out of the slot field. It's worth noting that from the slot, Tampa Bay has allowed the league high in yards and touchdowns. The second most completions, the second highest completion percentage. They struggle in all areas of the secondary, but certainly against the slot there. And so sue to your point is somebody that comes in at twenty one for me and the wide receiver ranked. He made my loveless this week. Last question just very quickly. I want mentioned this. James Winston is still available in a ton of leagues, and I don't understand that he's forty eight percent available and leagues. This is somebody that even if you have a good quarterback, you should pick up because there will be trade value here. I believe he's a top eight fantasy quarterback mattress this week, but for the rest of the way, given that offense given the the skill set around him and how bad that defense and run game is this game is they Atlanta's favorite his game by three and a half points. I'm taking a falcon till you got. Balkans are three and a half point favorite. They are at home. Give me the falcons. Go Birt's define ya. Birds, but when the falcons, I will also take the falcons sweet clean sweep there. Let's go to London across the pond Seahawks in raiders zero forty, eight point point total. I don't even know teams that could travel farther to London don't don't know. Love governor. The weekly Russell Wilson dilemma is upon us is Russell Wilson worth a start in your leagues Matthew, or think about this match of suggest to you that Russell Wilson belongs in your lineup. We'll certainly Oakland is particularly good. So that certainly, you know if there's things you wanna hang your hat on here in terms of in terms of Russell Wilson, right? It's a couple of things. I mean, first off three touchdown passes last week. So that was positive to see that. Seems like his pass catching core starting to get a little bit better and Baldwin do anything. But I did allow David Moore to get into the end zone twice raiders or twenty-third against the past, their thirtieth in scoring defense. It is a bad defense. They don't get pressure on the quarterback for some reason. I don't know why that is. Jon Gruden can't seem to figure it out, but whatever forever reason they can't seem to get pressure on the quarterback feels like they could. They use somebody there. So those are all the positives for us. Wilson, the problems are is that this is a run first team. I mean, they are. They're averaging twenty four pass tempts per game over the last three there. They, they have the lowest pass percentage in the NFL. So in a game that we expect them to certainly not be down to be competitive. We expect them to continue to run, which is one of the reasons why Russell Wilson who also himself isn't running just forty two rushing yards this entire year. Last year average thirty six game. So for me field Carson Carson, Chris. Jason, Chris Carson made the love list this week and Russell Wilson made the hate Lewis entirely because I think this is a run heavy game from. So he's just outside my top ten this week. And Chris Carson ranks inside all of our top fifteen to thirteen fourteen. Matthew had fifteen look at that harmony right there amongst ranker's Doug ball off the injury report. There's no more concerned about him being injured and dealing with that knee except for this one concern about him not being involved in the offense at all. I mean, look, I don't think you can dismiss the knee injury. He has. He said that he was not a factor in why who is utilized. So little in last week's game, but that all being said and maybe healthy this week, we know there's the potential for his Nita act up later on. In the meantime, we can't predict that NIA king up a certain moment. We all have them ranked as they flex play this week. No higher than twenty three, no, lower than twenty. Nine. You're just hoping against a bad Oakland secondary. Perhaps perhaps Russell Wilson says I only got the football once last week I to you too. Force-feed at the issue this week for Doug Baldwin and the Seahawks Jared Koga every week. Starbucks bollocks works Alex. That's how you felt after after Doug Baldwin secret goes, give me the rapid upside. No, I'm not wrapping it up. This is the London game you didn't. You didn't book. NAT comes for us this week, so balk might be swear. Swear. So careful. Hey, Jared, cook. Should he be every week. How does that go ahead? What did say, see squirrel, field, cook, you're no fun. You with a tight end abyss, should that be? Should it be an every week starter? Not trying to poke the barium now. Personally, I would. May you're asking me, I'm sorry. Secret scrolls allowed to talk about Jerry cook because he's your favorite. I think the highest on Jarrett I think the highest, Jared cook, like. I am not a fan of Jared cook, but production is production and they're certainly looking for him as well. Remember he leaves the raiders with four different endzone targets a season. He leaves the raiders with ten different red zone target. So endzone targets and red zone targets. He is the leader of the Oakland Raiders. I expect the raiders to have to throw in this game as well. So yeah, given the state of the tight end position, Jared cook comes in at five from me this week. I just got to be honest with you guys. I'm that person who says, no one can complain about NFL gains because we wait all year for them to begin. But this game is such a low watch ability score. All that being said, the Seahawks are two and a half point favorites, and I think they win and cover how about you, Matthew agree with you. I agree with you. Give me the Seahawks Bina. Yeah, see hawks. Daniel, I think because Seattle has less of travel because they're already farther north right. Less. Travel issue very quickly just because we're talking about tight ends and it's such a desperate position. I just wanna say that I didn't wait. We're when did we talk about tenants? Jared cook. Oh, Gotcha. Got listen. It is a brutal position. People out there looking for anyone with a pulse. And I do think that if you're looking for a sleeper tight end, I do think Nick Bennett who is top ten in the NFL in terms of being targeted on routes among tight ends this year, and you think about the raiders who struggle against tight ends. They're giving a six month yards per tempt to titans. I think Nick men at is a sleeper this week. They're also on the injury report. We expect him to play the ravens go to Tennessee titans over under. There is forty one point that's a low number right there wanted to have the conversation. I understand why, but the ravens running backs this week. I've got college ranked ahead of buck Allan. Matthew has reversed savant has them right next to each other. So you're kind of we kinda have all three bases covered because like what's the differentiating factor here for Allen versus Collins? Collins gets more work Allan seems find the endzone more. So when you're. Deciding on your for Collins or buckling to me, this is nothing more than so, but here's the thing. I think everyone thinks gets more work, but that's not actually true buck. Allan has out snapped outs. Collins hundred eighty to one hundred sixty four on the season. He has seven more catches than Collins has targets his former red zone touches than Collins a season, right? So how many touch I guess is the point is like I believe I don't. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I believe last week out, I'm almost positive buck. Allen had more total touches than Alice Collins did. Last week. I'm almost positive, so I got sixty six total touches for Alex Collins. Okay. All right. And I have got a total of fifty five touches for voyage Allen. So my point is that Collins gets more work right more touchdowns last week though. Last week he out touched Alex Collins. So maybe there's a little bit of a changing of the guard here. You certainly can't feel confident in terms of your. Confidence, it feels like buck Allen's role has only increased, and it feels like Alex Collins role has only decreased since the start of the season. You think that's fair. Ish Scouse calls rules creeps sort of feel that way because you see buckling going the end zone and as somebody who has him and has used him as a flex play, it was like the first two weeks. I'm like, oh no, this is the fluke. And then the third week when I really needed a flex plan like well, no, he he might be the guy who gets in the end zone, and that's what I'm banking on. That's why literally he only got one spot higher. I'm just saying, I think expectations were perception coming to the season was Alex Collins was going to be the workhorse, and then all of a sudden to used to find his point. It was like, oh, oh, buck, Allen. Oh, interesting. Oh, that's vaulter. Oh, no, actually keeps going on. You're like, oh, you know, buck of thing. Well, buck thing and then and then outs Collins fumbles a couple of times in crucial situations. You're like, Hello. And then last week buckle and actually out touches Alex Collins like he had more total touches last week than out cons. Here's here's buck. Allen's touches by week nine. Eleven nine twelve fourteen. So it's with the exception of that week three game. It's heading in the right direction extra quarter last week. So I'm just, I don't think this is like some major trend where buck out all of a sudden escalating up in outcomes escalating down as my point here. I think it's gradual, but I disagree with you. I think, yes, I do think buck Allen is trending up and I think outcomes is either trending flat or slightly trending down. Am I saying that all of a sudden buck how it's gonna get twenty five carries an Collins is going to be a back. No, I'm not saying that at all. What I'm saying is that at the start of the season, if you were projecting this, you would have said twenty touches for Collins and seven for buckle, and now it's like it's fourteen fifteen each. And so that is that is my argument here because I think buck Allah has the better chance to get into the end zone. I think I think that's why I have him ranked higher. I say, Alex, I say buckling it's more fantasy points this week than outs. Khan sound great. I think that Collins outscores buck Allen fantasy this week, put on board on the board. The win for me. Laughter. Fourteen targets last week. Do we all of a sudden trust the volume of John Brown is. A volume freak is the target monster, if you will. After that fourteen target performance against the Browns last week, I don't know that he's a target monster, but it certainly was encouraging because he was scoring at a high rate, but the that was always kind of a knock on John Brown was he wasn't getting the volume and then you see the volume increase in, you're like, okay, there you go. Yeah, I mean, you know, I love my little John Brown, so I'm I'm the highest among the three of us on him, but titans of allowed a touchdown on over eighteen percent of deep pass, attempts third-highest reign of, we know that Joe flacco loves to Chuck at deep, especially to smoky Brown. So I think he's a legit wide receiver, three this week. I think he is a viable flex plays. Well, I think they're going to be people that are going to say, if Dion Lewis is not performed this week, could he be dropped? Have we gotten to that point or conversely, have gotten to the point where you think maybe he deserves to be played this weekend. I'm neither point. I'm in no-man's-land. I'm on the fence as high. Diets. I went high on Dan Lewis big, and I think it's just because of his potential to be versatile is volume of receptions, twenty nine receptions over five games. He hasn't been particularly efficient fumbled recently, like I feel like he needs to get going, but I also think part of it, you know, if you look at the five games, you can't let them all together because there was times when Mario wasn't in, you know, they they, we felt like their offense really wasn't instinct. And so to me, they're really just starting out because we didn't have Morita and then Marietta was not himself when I came back. So I still think there's an opportunity for Dion Lewis to move forward in terms of his production. But I don't. I don't know that we're there yet. The dice jump. The gun vigorous titans off is gonna make quantum leap this season. I thought that you know made the ingenuity that were coming from Los Angeles was going to really dramatically shift the way this team plays offense in the output. General Dion Lewis, Eric, Henry, maybe except for court. They've all underachieved well, they, they have completely underachieved just. To find your brings up a good point though. I think it's been Mario. It has been in and out of the lineup. He hasn't been one hundred percent healthy. They lose Delaney Walker, who is a big piece to that offense as Well. I, I don't think people appreciate they lose Rashard Matthews. I mean, what he's no longer on the team that was that was by choice. They understand, but I'm no, I, I understand that there's there's, that's not an injury related thing. But my I mean, there was whatever he was expected to be part of the offense coming into the season when they when Matt leflore was doing his planning when Marcus mariota was thinking about how they were going to do it. So I think to that point, I have more confidence in Dion Lewis turning it around than I do Derrick Henry because at least there's been some volume there for Lewis, at least twelve touches in every game. This season. He's got a significant snap Ed over Henry when they're trailing, which is seems to be a decent amount here. Yeah. I mean, I think he sort of borderline flexes as we get into the meat of the by weeks. I'm not dropping him just yet because I think there's, you know, a little bit of useless usefulness with him, yes, to you've got a lot of confidence in the titans week, apparently because you're saying she start Corey Davis. He had a wonderful game couple of weeks ago and then last weekend, tough match-up against the bills was brought back down to earth a little bit for catches forty nine yards, but you can get back on track the ravens this weekend. I can't. I think we've seen that teams have scored points on the ravens. It's not like they have been able to all their opponents out. So I think there's opportunity here for the titans. I'm still rolling on this theme that the titans have not yet gotten in and that there's an opportunity. I do think Marcus mariota look better and I think another week of him being healthy and practicing and what Corey davises last week, I think there's an opportunity for them who was it? I was just gonna say, I was going to rebut by my fellow colleague here and say, I disagree Davis made the hate list this week. I think this ravens defense is better than maybe you give. A credit for them credit for their allowing touched on just three percent pass season at the lowest rate in the NFL. Remember the Jimmy Smith, just remember they just remember they got Jimmy Smith back as well. There along opponents complete a league, low fifty, four percent of passes season. That would be the lowest rate over the last six years. And so Marcus mariota who I've said this before and he has yet to prove me wrong. I'm not convinced he's any good when it comes to NFL starting franchise quarterbacks guy that went in the top two of the NFL draft. I'm just not convinced he's met that kind of expectation here divine. You have Corey Davis at eighteen. I have him at thirty one. I say, Corey Davis has outside the top twenty five of wide receivers this week and fantasy points, feel aboard bed coming on Icee, Corey davises inside the top twenty five of fantasy wide receivers this week, put it on the board getting a lot of action today. I have a difficult time and the world are happy. Go, what other. One of these teams is I'm having a hard time figuring out there both three and to the ravens are favored by two and a half points. I got the ravens in this game, Dan, not yet. Yeah. I also have the ravens this one, but I don't feel good about it. Shouldn't I got the titans and their high flying offense with Dion those. 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I don't have the number saved in my phone. Do you know flowers? It's one eight hundred flowers is what it is. You use the code f, f, f because you know what? If you call one flowers or you go to one hundred flowers com and you don't use the code f f we don't get credit Ford and then you know what happens. We have to start charging for the podcast. You want this free come on house, go to our sponsors, the colts play the jets. This weekend jets two and a half point favorites. Andrew luck has turned the ball in the style one hundred and twenty one times over the past two weeks. How confident are you Matthew Angela, against the jets defense that last week kind of be funneled the Broncos for the most of the game till some late game garbage time. Have you ever been befuddled? Yeah. When when was the last time you would be shuttled. How did my life lead me to sit next to Matthew berry every day of my life? What where did they go wrong? That's fair. I've thought about that many times. Yes, I don't blame you. I do have confidence here and Andrew luck. I mean, the volume there and when you talk about the volume of Andrew luck, it is on a historic pace. He made the love list as well this week at this. So the last three years Ben Rothlisberger had three different games of thirty eight or more completions from twenty fourteen to twenty seventeen. That was most in the NFL over that three year stretch. Andrew has three such games this year is I mean it's unbelievable. So the volume here against a jet secondary that Canley struggle. Then the there in the bottom half of the NFL in terms of passing yards allowed. You know, fourteen the quarterbacks that early thirty five passes against the jets over a thousand passing those bottles and keenum and Stafford. So yeah, sorry, it's the last four years, Thursday cows, correct. Me last four years in terms of the bench off yesterday. About nineteen Hines with Marlin MAC back to practice in full, which gives an indication that he will be playing on Sunday deci highs remain as they flex play for you for me. Yes, he does. Yeah. I mean, we don't know what Marlin Matt's role will be, but I don't think it'll be similar tonight. Him Hines in the sense that when they get in passing situations, we just talked about the volume there. We just it's going to be hind. You know, he's fourth among running backs in receptions this year like saquon Barkley James white anomaly Kamara are the only running backs with more receptions, the nineteen Hines, twenty two touches last week. When you think about his touches five to ten to thirteen to twenty two, it's heading in the right direction. He's earning the trust of that coaching staff and of Andrew luck. And so on a team that's throwing a lot yet give the pass catching running back here. We all have him in the twenty s as a flex consideration to find your Matthew just mentioned how many completions Andrew luck had so far this year, and we all know they're going to have to throw in with not y Hilton. Most likely this weekend, someone's going to catch passes for the colts. And by the way, just to quickly air, Abram might not be available either going to be catching. So the question is, do you is who could be available? And if he had to throw a dart at an Indianapolis Colts wide receiver which wanna be at well, it would not be pest gal who I threw into my lineup out of desperation last week almost found the ball in the end zone, but dropped a significant number of passing. The mean, this is the problem, right? The receivers, TY, so reliable for Andrew luck and he's not gonna have him not this week and maybe beyond. But Ryan grant Chester Rogers Sociaux. I still feel like Ryan grant is probably his preferred target of the remaining pass catchers because it goes back to training camp when I was there and watching it was Ryan grant by TI Hilton side by side, all the time and enter liquid come over. It was always working with them and talking to them. And I remember thinking, wow, I didn't really think there was much of a role for Ryan grant. Offense turned that maybe they had a premonition that they'd be without Jack Doyle and t. y. Hilton. Two of his most trusted targets. Obviously. LeBron's made a case for himself as being more reliable, but he's on the injury report with not one, not two, three, but four body parts next to his name, shin quad ankle and knee. So yes, yes. Well, it's, you know, it's all four things on on on the leg. That's all you need to buy more body issues. So I'm remains to be seen if he'll be available. We'll learn more this afternoon. But to me, I for me personally, it's rang grant or how about the just running backs to find it because we don't know if Zia crows gonna play in this game. He hasn't practiced either so far because of an ankle issue. Obviously, he's been far more productive of late for them, so they would like to have him on the field. Unfortunately, you know, Friday, a lot of teams now are waiting. You get deeper into the season. They're just like rest during the week unless you've got a clue from the team already, or there's been an injury that was very obvious that looked like it could be multi week. They're not going to show their hand until Friday practice. Again, we're waiting to hear about that for is Ahah Coyle. All right. Keep an eye on that one. If he does not play in, certainly how POWs values escalates all the way up. Probably doing top twenty running back, play Matthews. And by the way below Powell even with has good as crow as been ball Powell is actually still getting more touches. I mean, everyone talks about obviously Crowell had that crazy two hundred yard game last week. Powell's twenty carries for ninety nine yards. I I mean, you know, so obviously that was a game they were able to run effectively, but he's gotten more of the touches than is air coil. And I agree with you were to miss Powell's value would shoot up significantly. We didn't get into it with a cultural quickly. I know find your prefers Ryan grant. I will say the jets really struggle against the slot. Chester Rogers is somebody that is going to be my fantasy longshot on Sunday just as a little heads up for those who are watching here. I do think Roger's has an ice game here as well. We expect Quincy Newman a bounce back after zero on five to argue its last week remains though the jets most heavily targeted wide receiver, and the one that Sam darnold seems to still have the best report with all right jets colts. Jets a favor by two and a half point. So you gun with Matthew, give me the jets. JET s just just Jetstar Fanja. I'm gonna go with the colts. All right. I'll go with the jets. How about you? Daniel, I am also going with the colts, are they were going even split on this one. We'll continue with our game previews right after this.

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07/18: Player Debates and Training Camp Storylines (Fantasy Football Podcast)

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07/18: Player Debates and Training Camp Storylines (Fantasy Football Podcast)

"This is fantasy football today from C._B._S.. Sports email us at fantasy football ed C._B._S.. I DOT COM. It's time to dominate your fantasy. League Cheney Today on this show Arba Jones a top-five wide receiver P._B._R.. And Top twelve with V._R.. Two seasons ago with anyone want Marvin. Joe's this season down the stretch last year Philip Lindsay at Roy's Freeman the red zone inside the ten yard line and inside the five. We're going to talk about the broncos backs speaking of the Broncos they start training camp today so happy training Camp Day everybody I'm Adam as or welcome fantasy football today Dave Jamie Heath. What's up dudes? Oh yeah I thought they started on July seventeenth. I think they start Iraq. Is this one of those things we record one day but it's airing a different day so it's actually airing yesterday. They started on Thursday. That's their Trade Kip Day though they reported yesterday trying to keep open for the Broncos on July seventeenth did. When did they start practicing today started Braxton today? I don't care that they sat together and head lodge. They are practicing practicing today. Training Camp has begun. We're GONNA talk about some training camp storylines always there who's their drink. Oh is there a PRISCO all right. Ben Gretch is here Ben. We have a five-man show today. I don't know that we've ever done this so you have to make sure it's good man is a little sketchy five-person. What's up man and a host? I happen to be on. It's GONNA be interesting. There's a lot of voices running around on your and your voice is going to be featured because I asked you to come up with some interesting stats to present to the group and the will have them react to it stats on Jarvis Landry devante Freeman and James White guys that slip in some draft <unk> out sometimes and I don't really i. I don't take them but I don't really know why so I came up with some stats. I want to get some some advice on. Oh well. You've come to the right place okay four men. Let's let's get a training camp battle to watch also today. We're GONNA talk about draft have strategies in different formats p._r.. Happy are full P._R.. Ten twelve fourteen teams and we'll see if we have time for rankings disputes and some emails at Fantasy Football C._B._S.. Dot Com this is our last show of this week but we have five next week and then throughout the season in fact have six during the regular season. Tell your friends fantasy football today all right so training camp battles to watch. We have a couple of articles on the website for your read about these types of things Ben. I'm going to start with you and I know you WanNa talk about the forty niners backfield and who is going to be really the number two guy. They're not something we talk about much but interesting. What are you looking for in San Francisco we I mean I think we can pretty much expect that they're gonNA use at least two backs right and I as far as drafters go right now as far as as far as <hes> A._D._p.? is going and how drafts her going. It seems like drafters believed that Kevin Coleman is going to be the lead back in jerk. McKinnon is the more likely number two which is kind of just pushing that Brita away. I I personally really like it. I think he was he was fantastic last year he's at. I believe it's five point. Oh yards per carry for his career now. He was even better last year. He was very efficient in the passing game last year on a bad team you know without Jimmy Garoppolo Garoppolo <unk> under center for the majority of the season and just twenty four years old compare him to Jerick Mckinnon News now twenty seven. I think <hes> interesting that they're both similar our players Jerick McKinnon is essentially ninety nine th percentile spark athlete but my breed is like an eighty nine th percentile spark athlete. He's very very good. Athlete definitely has like playmaking game breaking ability and with mckinney coming off the A._C._l.. Tear no yes a huge contract but they sign him before that injury. They signed him before Matt. Brita had a really strong two thousand eighteen and then Kevin Coleman. I I even think drafted or maybe a little bit too confident in him. Being the number one <hes> definitely has ties Akao Alshon. I think he's a very talented back but there was time when I thought in the two thousand nineteen off season he would get a really significant contract. You only got a two year eight point. Five million dollar deal no dead money after this year <hes> kind of interesting. It's a it's a backup definitely going. I have my eyes on throughout August yeah but we want to. We want to draft. These guys. Dave Jamie Heath. I mean you know Kevin. Coleman is going I in our drafts in-draughts in general but do you want to avoid this backfield or get some pieces his I'm not trying to get pieces of this backfield Coleman's the one that I'm the most excited about just because he's the healthiest he's got an ice track record. He's familiar with Kyle Shanahan and he's the best suited to I honestly I think he suited. Did you play any down and distance but certainly worked the goal line. I agree with Ben. There's going to be two running. Backs used here my hunch going into camp assuming that McKinnon is healthy is at McKinnon will be the second guy and then once he breaks down. It'll be Breda. Breed is kind of the backup for both McKay Kit for <hes> Coleman and McKinnon Rita's the best best ball though because you're getting the last yeah I I well. I think that's true I. We've definitely had some drafts here lately. I think we're breed has gone before McKinnon embar draft so I'm I'm fine with drafting. The Guy who goes lasts. I do have interest in all three of them even in just a standard leg. I think it's a good thirteenth twelfth thirteenth round pick to get one of these guys you can. Mckinnon seems to fall further and our address and he does a lot of others looking at fantasy football calculator half P._R.. A._P._R. A._D._p.. Kevin Coleman Sixty Ninth Jerick McKinnon one hundred tenth overall and Breda hundred and fifty fourth overall our next storyline see who's next let's do. Let's do day Richard. We're looking at another backfield in the N._F._C. West. I what do you want to see out of the Seattle cab. I WANNA see which back is the better back. We know that Pete Carroll craves competition. He wants it from every position on his team and he's GonNa go with the running back back. Who performs the best in practice and in the preseason this is one that we're going to be able to watch and read reports on and have a pretty good idea on whether it's going to be Chris Carson to lead the way or whether it's going to be shot penny leaves the way I think both are GonNa play and I think both author pretty interchangeable? They both have metrics that are very similar in terms of simple stuff yards per carry yards per catch catch rate but it's just a matter of WHO's going to get fourteen touches a game versus. Who's going to get six touches per game yeah so Chris Carson just he was so good last year he had nine games with fourteen or more carries or more than fourteen carries? I should say and he averaged sixteen point. One fantasy points per game and non P._R.. Seventeen point seven N._p._R.. Would have been a top six EXPEC based on his six game pace in those nine games with more than fourteen carries so let's look up some draft you guys and tell me who you rather have at their current A._D._p.. Chris Carson Forty seventh overall or Rashad Penny seventy fifth overall overall Jamie Sabathia. Who Do you like better at their A._D._P.'s? Oh Penny it's not close. I'm not touching Chris Carson in the fourth round and probably not in the fifth round certainly N._p._r.. I just think that everything that you look for for Rashad Penny. He's checking checking off the boxes. He's in better shape. He's should I don't know this obviously I'm not in his head but should have a better understanding of the offense. At least he's showing that in for that's the perception <hes> and Carson's not healthy you you know Carson's dealing with this knee injury so everything that sort of went awry for him last year with the finger injury that kept him off the field in training camp is working the opposite direction because Carson not there so we'll see how long Carson's is <hes> no dealing with his knee injury if it keeps some off the field in any part of camp it's only GonNa help pennies case I I will certainly take the value here with penny <hes> especially. I'm getting him in the seventies. He seventy fifth overall for penny forty eight forty offer. I don't think you're GONNA find anybody says courses arsons about value okay. I think we're all going to say the same exact thing all right. Let's move on to our third training camp battle. I do want to throw in one note though Mike Davis last year actually led the backfield in targets with forty two and I think pennies probably better suited suited to the past game work so let's just another reason to like him all right. We got a wide receiver battle. Look at Jamie Green Bay. I mean it's the second guy you know who's going to be the number two guy behind Davante Adams not necessarily in terms love who is on the field. I think both guys in terms of drama Allison and Mark was valid scaling will play but who's going to be second in targets you for different things you know whether it's coach quarterback other receivers no talk glowingly about each guy as we saw last year allison really only a four healthy games. If you project those for Healthy Games over sixteen games it's our favorite thing to do <hes> but he would have just been a star seventy six catches one hundred fifty six yards eight touchdowns in six of the twelve games that you had vowed does gambling play without alison. He had double digits N._P._R.. In six of those so <hes> I I really think it comes down to WHO's the slot guy who ends up playing in that role replacing Randall Cobb <hes> my guess is going to be Alison but. What I've tried to do for the most part unsuccessfully but I considered it almost every time I get to that round seven around eight range? I don't take them there but that's where I start to across my mind Trisha both <hes> you know the friendship strategy and essence with with the two backers guys because if one emerges you're great and could be a situation where you know you may be alternating them throughout the course of the season but <hes>. I don't think Davante Adams getting all the targets. He's GonNa get a lot but somebody's going to be a pretty decent fantasy option here between those two guys I think Allison's going to win the slot role questions just going to be and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets more targets. The question's GonNa be whether valve as Caitlyn can be that much more efficient whether he's more used in the red zone with I think he might be. I would love to get both at some point. I it's never ever really seems like it's possible because as soon as one of them goes by someone else takes the other one. I don't know if it's even that great of an idea to be honest because we do think Aaron Jones can see an uptick in catches out of the backfield. Jimmy Graham is still on this team. I know no one wants to draft Graf. Jimmy Graham but tight end has been a big part of the west coast offense forever. That's what Matla floors burning and he must see something Jimmy Graham to keep them involved. I like the I like the concept of drama in the slot it reminds me of Cooper Cup Moceanu Zanu tall slot receivers who can make some easy plays in single coverage and so alison I'm going for I'm not really even thinking about envious at this point is funny because his A._D._p.'s envious Yeah Yeah Alison was way higher fire until the report came out that M._v._S.'s number two <hes>. It's funny in that made that made me like allison more just thinking about the slot yeah it just depends. Are we talking Randall Cobb of five years ago or Randall Cobb of the last three years because you've been useless right and it's it's. It's who wanNA believe you know. Who Do you want to believe the stories about? Do you want to believe them liking alison more or there's certainly been more smoke in M._v._S.'s direction so when you look at the breakouts in the past in the packers <hes> what she record that have come out of nowhere Reynaud cops obviously good a good example the drawback to but the heath mentioned the red zone roll the high touchdown rate spikes that we've seen from guys like James Jones Davante Adams breaking out after a couple of bad years years <hes> opposite Jordy Nelson. Sometimes it's been that second outside receivers well the coverage kind of goes the other way you know to the number one or two the slot and then this second outside guy ends up being somebody that Rogers finds in the red zone for some the big T._v. seasons as well. I think the touch is a big part of it because Rogers says had a number of receivers that have broken out throughout his career with just some ridiculous T._d.. Rates all right finally final note on this Toronto Alison Average fourteen point five points per game in those rose four games at Jamie referenced that Fourteen Point Five points per game n._p._R.. That would have been good enough to be twenty second last year. Fourteen Point Five points per game twenty second N._p._R.. All right our final training camp battle that we're GONNA talk about is in Tampa Bay. Hey Heath who's GONNA win that Tampa Bay running back job. Nobody knows that but it is the most exciting camp battle I believe listen. If you listen to anyone in Tampa Bay or any of the writers cover that team team it. It certainly sounds like they all expect peyton barber to not only be the starter at the start a camp but to be the starter the start of week one and they don't anticipate Ronald Jones taking the job away. If you listen to anyone almost in the fantasy industry especially someone on this podcast been <hes> you will hear Ronald Jones needs to be the starter for the Tampa Bay buccaneers it doesn't matter that he was one of the worst rookie running backs ever because he was hurt part of the year and it was a small sample size and he's still very very hey talented and you should just trust his talent and if you listen to me. I just hope that bruce gets a chance because <hes> Bruce Anderson is free on draft day. I took him in our pick by pick series I in the fourteenth round. There's been a little bit of buzz about him. They're more buzz coming out of camp about Ronald Jones. It's going to be fascinating to watch by the handicapper right now. I would still say Peyton. Barbara Starts Week one and leads the team in touches and Ronald Jones is going ahead of looking at the A._D._p.. Ronald Jones is going ninety third overall paid and Barbara One hundred and twenty second overall. Do you guys like those A._D._p.'s. I knew for Jones I mean I am getting a little bit concerned about Jones but the reason I keep grabbing him in like a lot of our marks and stuff like when you get to that range first of all I tend tend to fade running backs in in like the rounds three to five or six range and kind of stock up underachievers may get an elite tight end depending on where I'm at when I get to that range. There's not a lot of running backs that I think can pretty easily not that I can kind of tell myself historic pretty easily be the lead back and be a really productive <hes> lead back for their offense and I think Jones could very well be that the fact that they didn't bring in a ton of competition didn't spend a lot of free agency money or draft capital to bring in a running back to me is more revolted confidence in Ron Jones who is our second round pick last year than it would be paying Barbara who was a former beauty f._a.. WHO has a three point eight yards per carry average over three years? He's not really been good. He had over two hundred fifty touches last year and didn't even thousand total yards. I mean that's like yeah. Let's blow level stuff like it's really bad and I don't. I don't disagree with anything been saying it's just the counter argument to that is he was so bad and Ronald Jones was still considerably worse than him well. I think it's almost like he's like a poor. Man's Rashad Penny to me because penny didn't know what he was doing. Many figured it out. I don't know if penny figured out I think pennies athleticism just kinda shine through on a team. That was a little bit better at running the ball. I think if if you're the way I approach it is I want the guy with the highest ceiling and it may be present. We just don't know but I don't think that if both guys everything works out well Ronald Jones to destroy Peyton Barbara if he gets it and if he's is right but it's just a matter of will he get it and we'll be right. I don't like the fact that he gained weight. I hate when running wait. I don't know the fact that he the fact that he bulked up because I I mean you know Ben. We we've been fighting for a few of these drafts. It just really makes me nervous. When a guy hi who small hands got bigger? You know the only thing that's sort of still the saving grace is the other guys on the roster and what everybody's saying about him. They want him to be the guy. It's very clear Bruce Arians James Winston. I'm sure Jason Light the general manager they want him to be the guy because otherwise it's just another second round pick that wasted for the second year to the last three years to he's point about how Jones been a lot worse. I mean I I keep harping on this but there's a big difference between pain Barbara being. I'm really bad replacement level with over two hundred fifty touches and Ron Jones being worse on thirty touches. That's the sample size there has massively different. We know pain Barbara's nothing. We don't really know about wrong Jones yeah yeah. He take that sorry. I'm not in the game sample size we have but there's a reason that part of the reason Roger Got Thirty touches because of injuries part of it's because they he was bad in practice preseason touches he got last year. It's true I mean the sample size isn't just thirty touches like he was bad in other in other ways as well but it still small okay. Let's wrap on that and recapping the training camp battles that we talked about there are more on the website but <hes> the Green Bay wide receivers the Tampa Bay running backs the San Francisco running backs and Chris Carson and Rashad Penny in Seattle some things you need to know about C._B._S.. Sports H._Q.. Beginning on Monday fantasy football today the video version is at noon eastern on C._B._S. Sports H._Q.. How do you watch H._Q.? You download the C._B._S.. Sports APP and that's free everything's free don't have to sign up or anything you put it on your Roku Your Apple T._v.. Your Amazon fire anything. He's Smart T._v.. or APP that you use and you can watch it in your living living room. It's awesome and we have other podcasts. He needs to know about like the pick six podcasts football fans daily N._F._l.. Show go to C._B._S.. Sports Dot com slash podcast or podcasts either WanNa get you there and get our complete listing well. We've just for your F._T.. <hes> for all of training camp we are going to have every day someone of our <hes> a one of our colleagues at a camp now players from those respective teams on our shows <hes>. We're GONNA have some beat writers mix then. It's GonNa Be Really Fun Getting Ready for your draft. Prep <hes> I'm. I'm excited. No yes working with the producers and the things that we're doing. It's GonNa be really really cool the stuff that we have off on our video program right and F._T.'s been going on for a long time and we've never really had stuff like that or infrequently so a lot being put into it. It's GonNa be a great show. That'd be very helpful for you guys. That's on H.. Q. On noon eastern Monday through Friday beginning next week is basically an extension of this yeah only with guests okay Jarvis Landry devante Freeman James White some fun stats from Ben. When we come back we also have some news and notes and the most interesting draft picks in our twelve team non P._R.? Mock draft after we did on Monday night including Marvin Jones one hundredth overall stick around much more F F T to come right after this hey y'all it's chip Patterson from the cover three podcast. You're on C._B._S.. Sports for the number one college football podcast around you have to download it. We got five star content for all you five star subscribers and boy. We got a lot coming up this off season Barton Simmons and I you know we're going to be going inside. The transfer portal were always following the visits. Were talking to coach is we're trying to gather information to get us ready for the twenty. One thousand nine season isn't Barton. Were coming at him once a week at a minimum sometimes twice but we're going to be trying to give them all that good five star information. The dust is settled from spring games in spring practice. Now coaches are on the road. We'll be chatting it up with them along the way A and and gearing up ship for our win total over unders we gotta prep for that. You'll be prepping along with our digging in. We're trying to make those bold predictions. We'll be telling you whose buzzing in camp and much much more for it is the cover three college football podcast on C._B._S.. Sports download and subscribe wherever podcasts are found this is Danny Kanell one half of the canal embel- podcast alongside Raja Bell Rajon. I cover what's trending in sports from the perspective perspective of former pro athletes five times a week. We'll tackle subjects in sports that matter to us while relating back to our own playing days nothing is off limits. Well almost nothing join US Monday through Friday and subscribe to the Canal podcast. Anywhere podcasts are found. I Ben Gretch Hyphen about your your killer stats. Today I mean I'm feeling all right about the stats. I'm not sure what to feel about the players. I mean these are guys. I think I mentioned into the top that they fall and I myself passing on him still sometimes when they do fall but I don't like. I don't have any conviction in that. There's some players that I'm very clearly avoiding even when they fall but these guys are just like maybe I should take him here but I just wind up not grabbing them enough leagues Jarvis Landry Devante Freeman. They're not the the sexiest names are kind of boring but they're they're guys that you know you. They Kinda slip through the cracks and they could potentially provide some value so they're they're interesting guys I think to think about. I'm pretty pumped about devante Freeman. I'd probably going to be the most pumped about Devante Freeman but let's start with Jarvis Landry. If you heard our projections episodes a couple of weeks ago you heard the aid dot stat average depth of targets so that's what we're GonNa talk about with Landry. Just is explain this that doesn't require much explanation and what you notice with Landry last year yeah so average depth is just how far down the field to throw is not like how far the ball traveled but how many yard lines it moved from the line of scrimmage so if you throw first and ten pass to the sticks it's ten you know it's got ten yards of depth and then it's the average of all those depths for Jarvis Landry and his four years of Miami was a slot receiver. We saw a lot of underneath targets <hes> his highest average depth of target get in that time in those four seasons for given season was seven point seven <hes> the other three seasons were all I think below six point four there are all just like very small numbers for reference <hes> the average tight end either last year the last couple years. I can't remember what I what I pulled my projections but the the average Hafer Titan is about seven point six of depth yards of depth for wide receiver typically about eleven point one so landry was even in his highest season in Miami was more like <hes> like an average tight end in terms of how far downfield he was getting his targets last year he went to Cleveland becomes the number one and his average was eleven point seven so it was the highest of his career and it was the highest of his career by four yards now they have Odell Beckham and I'm projecting what's actually come significantly farther down because I do use this <hes> this depth in my in my projections because it impacts catch rate for instance shorter passes are caught more but also it impacts like yards per reception because short passes tend to have a lower yards perception reception so <hes>. Let's look at I'm projecting. That's come down pretty significantly back down into the age range <hes> but I just like I can't really figure out Jarvis. Landry is role. I can't really figure out how many targets to project him for because I do have Odell Beckham coming in pretty easily leading the team <hes> he's a really interesting and and Kinda difficult guide to to figure out in this new Cleveland browns oftens right so you're argument is that he would landry would have a more landry like role because he was just doing things that he had done before in his first year with Cleveland you bring in Beckham and Landry. All of a sudden starts doing the things that made him really good. You know a top twenty P._r.. Wide Receiver four straight years of course in those years he had a major target share every single season. He was first on his team and targets. It's not going to happen right now. He's going sixty first overall guys and I feel the same way that Ben does about Jarvis Landry I just I kind of struggle with it. I never ended up taking him. What do you think about him? That's that's the second to last pick of round. Well Yeah so sixtieth overall. I guess this is A._D._p.. Tight so the last pick of route five in every time I draft I find myself moving Jarvis Landry down in my rankings his his his average starts per game with kitchens calling plays with six point point nine. That's not nice and Ode L.. Beckham's now there. I think that that's going to be the average target form this year so if he's averaging six point nine seven caught seven seven targets per game. It's going to catch at six of those. He's an average eight yards. Catch so that's ten or eleven P._R.. Points a week. He's never been that low. I think this is a whole new world for him and I know he's a really good talent but I don't see him being a reliable contributor certainly in non P._r.. Okay how do you guys feel about him to Jamie and Heath Jarvis Landry sixtieth overall. It's worse on fanciful book calculator. He's a twenty receiver off the board. Where's he going P._R.? Matt Miller five okay so it's a little better on on how I'm looking at happy P._R.'s. I'm saying worse worse in terms of were going to always going to do what you're saying. I'm sorry you're saying he's going higher. You know nobody wants him. At this cost. Nobody wants okay. Does there you go if he falls the right spot. It's not a bad situation in but you know I think it's it's two things one. It's name recognition people get over excited about names they know and it's the browns hype you know. It's I wanNA piece the browns offense and look there. There could be a situation where I know Freddy Kitchens as the one we're looking at but todd markets rockets influence could be great. I mean we we loved Adam Humphreys when he was getting all those targets last year but if Jarvis Landry Adam Humphreys that's terrible A._D._p.. Not If you're getting that production what do you mean that stretch that Adam Humphreys was was giving us. He was scoring a ton in there that a lot he was productive. He was the atop thirty wide receiver sure no post season. No I get what you're saying Jamie because there was that stretch it wasn't very long. It was like five or six weeks a month where he was getting but obviously Jarvis Landry is much better than them humphries or at least should be yeah you guys you guys have landry just outside your top thirty and we are not willing to commit a top sixty pick top thirty a wide receiver top sixty overall pick on Jarvis Landry our next okay I am in on Devante. Take Freeman Ben so you have interesting stat that that makes me a little bit hesitant in the last three seasons before he played two games last year. Freeman was rb one rb six RB fourteen N._p._R.. And basically the same in non P._B._R.. He he was like rb one rb six thirteen or twelve maybe but I know he's good and I know the Falcons. Give him the ball a lot near the end zone no more Kevin Coleman. I don't really think much of Ito's Smith personally so I like Freeman. Give me your devante freeman stat yeah so the thing Freeman is like technical gone now. He's been kind of in a in a timeshare when he's been healthy obsolete miss the majority of last season is Zito. Smith GONNA fill this Coleman role or does development potentially have the chance to be the more of the number one then he's been over the last couple of seasons and the status that if you go back to twenty fifteen when he was the number one overall running back that year he played over eighty percent of the offense snaps eight different times he got at least twenty five touches in seven games in thirty two games since then mainly in two thousand sixteen and Seventeen before missing two thousand eighteen. He's been over seventy five percent mm snaps just one time <hes> so not even getting really anywhere near that eighty percent up threshold that I kind of think of as a workhorse back end. He's gotten twenty five touches in those thirty two games just twice so you know going from doing that almost fifty percent of the time in that big season he had in twenty fifteen to rarely doing it <hes> now. He's twenty seven years old. He dismissed there. They also drafted Khadr Alison. <hes> it's a it for me. It's kind of tough to imagine that he's going to go back to this workload. You know later on in his career so I'm just kind of curious what the thoughts are on that yeah. How often do you see it happen with a running back that has you you know downward production and then they come back? They say they're healthy. The headlines are good. offencive lines upgraded all that jazz and then they come out and they produce at a high level. How often do you see it yeah I don't? I don't necessarily agree with what you said. Adam and I don't have a lot of faith and he does Smith being good. I don't think it matters I don't. I don't think it's like they're gonNA play three or four games like man. Ito's spits not very good. We're going to give Devante Freeman twenty-five touches a game I just think with with his injury history and his age there and the way they've chopped up carries for the last three or four years. They're going to chop up curious yeah they are they are but even a freeman gets hurt or Smith gets hurt. There's GonNa chop up carries with Allison and one of these guys okay but but you know who's going GonNa get the red zone targets 'cause or carries because he's always been very involved expect Freeman and he he's had a seventy catch season you know in his history. Are they going to get him back. He won't have that. Are they going to get him back. Well was that I'm sorry Jimmy. What year was the seventy catch? Two thousand fifteen seventy three catches then there's two things I cut her actually came in twenty <hes> left after twenty fourteen before Freeman broke out. There's a couple of things first off. If you're expecting to be that same guy then you should be drafting him in the first two rounds. No I don't have to but I think he's got the Patel realistic expectation I I liked devante Freeman a lot. I'm not expecting him to get back to that level again. No am expecting him to be very good fantasy option. We were just talking about this for Q. I look at the rams. The rams have a running back situation that they're clearly concerned about no matter what they're saying right because they bring back Malcolm Brown and they go out and they get there'll henderson the draft. If the Falcons were so concerned about Devante Freeman health and you I mean I talked to Dan Quinn about this. You know it's he likes Edo Smith. I don't think he's loves Edo Smith and they went out and they got a guy in the fifth round so I think it Kinda shows you that they're comfortable enough. That devante Freeman is going to be healthy now. Clearly nobody is looking at the running back through saying that guy's guaranteed to play seventeen games or sixteen games. He won't plays seventeen but I think you look at offensive line upgrades better defense because those guys are healthy and track record for him so a twenty seven year old version of devante Freeman. Could he be a top fifteen running back. I think that's safe if he plays sixteen games I and the upsides better than that because we've seen it so I'm I'm taking a chance on him at his A._D._p.. For sure <hes> whereas N._p._R.. Round around three what number running back up the board okay that's perfect so the one thing that stood out to me about what what Ben said is that in two thousand seventeen he finishes. I believe it's the thirteenth running back fourteenth fourteenth running back and those numbers would have led him to the sixteenth running back in two thousand eighteen is the perfect really played he only played thirteen games played fourteen games that year and he left week ten after two carries so he was a top fifteen running back in both formats devante freeman in thirteen games you know I just think that he's good one. He's the best guy on the team. He's going to score touchdowns. We like their offense quite a bit. I just think the hard thing is we probably liked about the freemen about the same. Maybe I'm a little higher. It's just really hard to to know you know devante Freeman versus more than MAC versus Kerryon Johnson versus Philip Lindsey. It's a big group of running backs there that are going to you know through throughout the course of the next month. We're going to figure out ways to separate them in our own minds and yeah. I don't know where to put Freeman in that group. I put carry on ahead of him. I put Freeman ahead of Mac N._p._R.. For sure and all those guys right now for sure ahead of Lindsey with the talk coming out of Denver. I'm like A._D._p.. EP from fifty nine Leonard Fournette Fifteen Marlin Max Sixteen Freeman's at Seventeen Henry's at eighteen carry on's at nineteen. I'm with you. The only guy will take over him in that rain. Just carry on so in that range for me. I'm always looking at like which of these guys have top five potential. I've kind of bashed the Derrick Henry a little bit because I don't think he has a receiving workload to to get there. I think you'd have to just threat ridiculous needle of rushing efficiency and touchdowns that would I think is a really challenging thing for him to get all the top five the value. I definitely think he can return values A._D._p.. And so Jamie kind of question for you because it sounds like with what you're saying you feel pretty confident. devante Freeman is going to beat his A._D._p.. If he stays healthy for sixteen games and I know I I don't I think this is the right spot for him. He's a seventeenth running back on the board around three like that to me is expectation for him. That's where I'm ranked right. No no I agree I agree. I mean I actually completely agree. I think he's a little bit too low <hes> where he's going in terms of what his expectations should be if he stays healthy. I think he's pretty easily going to beat that but my question for you is do you think he has top-five upside legitimate top-five upside because I think Aaron Jones does I think mark might <hes>. I think you're on Johnson does if he gets enough work. Do you think Devante Freeman has that yes I do too. Oh I think almost all of those running back through that's why I think receive a receiver strategy and then two of those guys is of. I'm probably not GONNA do it. I like it's it's a slam dunk well. I like to go running back receiver with my. I do picks but yes I. I think that those back group running backs really exciting yeah. I I'll reference the I know. We're GONNA talk about not going to be your Ford but Chris Hassell <hes> one of our hosts and see this workday skew he went in non he went Davante Adams at twelve real jobs kelsey thirteen so the around wants to swing and then he came back and he took carry on Johnson Marlin Mac right could have had I mean freeman went a little bit before that but that to me is perfect. Yep I agree absolutely perfect and I don't really think the wide receivers in that late round three inch around four range have as much upside <hes>. I don't know how this is non P._R.. So take into account but <hes> tyreek Hill went was the first season around four. We know what that situation has doing element Robert Woods. Those are the Guy Brandin hooks right you know if you go you know take Kelsey. If you don't want to take a tight end he could have had Davante Adams and Juju Adams and Beckham. I mean I would love that in any format any situation to get through those receivers or Chelsea and those two backs okay all right cool so we were going to do another stat from from them but I think we'll move onto our next segment here. We'll talk about James White. Some other time. Actually talked about white couple shows ago run down. Some news notes real quick. Emmanuel Sanders is going to avoid the publicist guys. That's that's cool well. When the broncos actually start drinking we'll find out he is avoided the poking videos of him running routes and stopping and going currently? It's it's encouraging. It's really encouraging. The one thing you've gotta worry about with injuries like this is the second injury because they overcompensate for something well. He's smuggled is not the case but that's usually what happens. Okay not a ton of like big news items so Dan Quinn thinks highly lawson hooper. He thinks that hookah is ready to go to another level anyone else feel that way. Be Bad news for devante Freeman. It'd be bad. I don't see what the targets would come in. 'cause Sydney is going to be involved but particularly Julia Johnson and Calvin. Really you know pretty big breakout last year. I expect to take a step forward as well Tennessee offensive coordinator Arthur Smith said he intends to ride Derrick Henry. That's according to Titans Online. That's a pretty big news item as Fedex Circa yes his father founded Fedex right. Yes Cincinnati rookie running back Rodney Anderson expected open training camp on the PUP list Arizona waved offensive tackle Desmond Harrison. He's facing assault charges. <music> Martavis Bryant applied for reinstatement and Vikings running back rock. Thomas is suspended three games that I say anything there that matters no okay I mean after the Arthur Smith Fedex joke yeah yeah which was growl both Rodney Anderson's probably not gonNA play this year. Okay the twelve team draft that we did on Monday night so Jamie has to bounce in like two minutes so we're going to get his. I asked you guys for the most interesting pick twelve team non P._B._R.. Draft on Monday night. Jamie made us draft on a Monday night. It was really mean but I enjoy the draft. Sorry you missed the bachelor. I never WANNA specimen. Whatever never would see the bachelor or the Bachelorette? I could proudly proudly at least a C._B._S.. Show right what is wrong with me. Why haven't I watched the bachelor and the Bachelorette more often? There's not a C._B._S.. Show but that for the show sucks. I've never watched the bachelor okay. I was right the first time I asked you guys with the most interesting picks. I'm Jamie. You said Jimmy Garoppolo I pick around fifteen seventeenth quarterback off the board one hundred sixty ninth overall Jimmy Garoppolo was the most interesting pick of that draft. You only quarterback do that by design and after point <hes> so <hes> there was some things going on with his draft somebody in show up so I was drafting for them and so sometimes I get a little bit confused with the teams that I'm picking for and I was like okay this that whatever I I need running backs here receivers. They're couple kids asleep. It was a little hectic <hes> and then it was <hes> okay. WHO's GonNa take two quarterbacks who is going to be that guy was one <hes> I forget somebody else did? It and then got to round eleven. Maybe twelve hundred find it when you around twelve it was around twelve and our buddy day. They're endorse the average drafter. Will we call them average. Oh average JOE average paradores average eder endorsed. He had <hes> his quarter. I think was rothlisberger and it was right before I picked and Russell Wilson was like all right great. I waited until round twelve. I'll get Russell Wilson. He's not a top twelve guy for me but just outside number thirteen perfect and then he took Russell Wilson like you know what screw it. I'm not gonNA take quarterback until then and then it was between Garoppolo and Dak Prescott and I just took rapport. After I took my cat cropper's great job I mean getting a top five quarterback in the fifteenth round is is very impressive. Garoppolo was on pace for forty nine hundred yards in the five games. He started in two thousand seventeen. He'll probably exceed that I don't see why would now in all seriousness I mean are you okay. Oh are you okay my okay with it yeah. Is it ideal no I I had him ranked as a top fifteen quarterback. I think there are you can make a case for about twenty five guys. That could be number one quarterback. This year is just such a deep position. <hes> you'd obviously rather have somebody that's a top ten guy than it's fifteen fifteen guy or not depending on where you have something like Ruffalo ranked but it is what it is. Who did they play week? One Tampa Bay Hampshire go light it up and then accents natty and we to streaming streaming wait. What is it that I see Garoppolo that you don't teeth? I don't know what is it that you don't where do you. I'm right. Let's start with that twenty seconds or something. What is it about Jimmy Garoppolo? There's not anything in particular that I don't like. It's just Jamie was just saying there's twenty plus quarterbacks. You could make an argument for being top twelve quarterback. I've not seen enough from Jimmy Garoppolo in his seventeen years of limited action to prove to me that he's an elite quarterback he he's fine. He's I'm not saying he's below average. I don't I don't know yet that he's definitely better than Matthew Stafford Jr.. Who's your twenty-first quarterback? I think Eddie also also seen enough from Andy Dalton or more extended stretches of success. Yes how much how many fantasy points you experience. What do you mean what I'd seen Advani Dalton and he has had a season where he was not not as but I have the Garoppolo go by Jamie? Thank you for participating <hes> okay so then I'll get you invented Ben. You have any protection for more fantasy points Garoppolo right yeah. I was just pulling that up there right in that same aim range but even even if you have him projected for more fantasy points. I write upside because but I don't that's that's the part I don't understand. Is We have seen Andy Dalton be top five of course my gosh. There's no way he's not that good sued for stretching season he has he definitely has better weapons than Jimmy Garoppolo does he does have better weapons but I I love the forty niners web page <music> Green Tyler Boyd. He has better weapons does but Kiddo pettus all these young receivers all the guy all the running back so we can catch passes and Kyle Shanahan. We can all agree that these are quarterbacks that you're going to be able to find light on draft as a matter of think has more upside and who you WanNa start the season off with Cincinnati week one place at Seattle yet <unk> Dak <hes> Jamie mentioned was available to enact has a really easy <hes> early part of the of the season as well <hes> but I think the broader point rather than arguing about Jimmy Garoppolo is Jamie took this strategy to the absolute extreme and I think what happens a Lotta Times as people will have come strategies are ideas they wanna do but they they kind of just go half half into it and they like all cabinet the late round quarterback but then they do some other things in the draft or maybe they need to be targeting depth that a certain position in the medal rounds but they give up on their quarterback strategy and then it ends up affecting the depth that that other position <hes> you know whatever it is say they went really running back heavy early they need to be grabbing around receivers and they give up on that quarterback late round quarterback idea because the guy the need to grab. I think the biggest point here from a strategic perspective is you can you can take this to the absolute extreme this year. There's a lot aww quarterbacks you can grab Dak Prescott Jimmy Garoppolo or even Andy Dalton if you need to <hes> at the almost literally in the last round of a twelve team draft <hes> unless you're in a league where everybody drafts quarterbacks in yeah. You probably want to do a little bit earlier but you can wait really really long onto a quarterback this year if you need to and if you want to definitely all right he the most interesting pick of this twelve team non P._R.. Draft for you was Philip Lindsay. He went thirty ninth overall. He was R._B.. Twenty two third pick of the Fourth Round Philip Lindsay easy and this is another one of those situations kind of like Tampa Bay where it seems like we in the industry all want and expect one thing to happen and all the people associated with the broncos. Keep saying another thing but we've had multiple reports now that the broncos plan plan on a full committee at running back Roy's Freeman has gotten all the work in the off season because Philip Lindsay's step dealt with a wrist injury and been unavailable Freeman was drafted higher not that that necessarily matters but it like. It's it's a point of evidence considering. We only have one year of data with these two running backs. I don't like I like Philip Lindsay more that I like Royce Freeman there should not be as big of difference between their A._D._p.'s. He says there is and as of right now I would not feel comfortable taking Lindsey in the first four rounds at took him with the last pick of round four. I think in this draft no in in three receiver P._R.. Draft yesterday. We're doing the slow draft. I believe yeah I think I took him forty eighth overall so that's P._r.. This was non P._R.. All right Dave what what's your take on the Broncos backfield because this Lindsey I mean it was so much better than Royce Freeman last year but he threw the reports are not great. If you're Lindsey believer I think he was madly efficient. He had ten games with fifteen plus. Such as two games with twenty twenty plus touches in about three point one targets per game. I've got concerns about this. Offense being led by flacco this offense with play calls being made by Rick Skin Garoppolo <hes> we can say we want about Vic Fangio and how will want to have a conservative conservative offense Lindsey already had the wrist injuries that going away on their minds when they get into short yardage situations. I think he had a good year last year with the almost thirteen hundred total in ten total touchdowns. I'M GONNA say he falls shy of that. All that being said you know how I feel about Devante Freeman. I think I'm still ready to take. I think it'll come down to format where Lindsay is probably going to be the one I'll choose and non and N._p._R.. I'll I'll take the chance on Freeman. They're both very close for me. As guys who will be middle of the pack arbutus Royce Fremont Miss Two Games mid season last year when he came back. That's kind of like what I've really been focusing on and how the carries were divvied beat up so so Lindsey in the final six games that he played had eighty two carries freeman had forty two carries Lindsey had six touchdowns Freeman had one that would all be a lot more relevant relevant to me of all of the coaches hadn't changed okay Ferret Oh and another thing I feel like we do this a little bit too much like just generally with rookies like we shouldn't expect rookies to come in and have a monster workload none of us do. We don't expect that from the rookie class this here. We're talking about how you know Mao Sanders or <hes> they montgomery them at work into it and I understand obviously PHILP. Lindsay was a rookie last year as well but <hes> Roy screaming situations so much so similar to Ron Jones is an rashard pennies as well which are in all first or second round running backs last year all in in the situation as to where they're going in similar rounds in the draft <hes> in fantasy drafts and but they're they're presumed number two right now and I think it's so funny that we don't necessarily expect any of these guys when we think about it before the rookie season to beaver really really productive but then we I think we put too much weight on the rookie seasons when we look back like I think there's that you should expect progression and not necessarily <hes> that every player is going to be good and be a hit in the N._F._l.. L. But you should expect guys step forward like Calvin. Rarely I'm struggling with a lot. We should expect a lot of regression MS touchdowns last year and typically a player with that kind of profile. I would fade but I also think he can grow what right in his rookie season is so good like a lot of Iraqis. Don't do that right so he can grow into more targets. You can grow into more production because we should expect that from guys in year one to year two I agree with everything been just said but something caught my ear and I didn't need to clarify it is been calling Ronald Jones Ron Jones because if so I think that's fantastic. I wish it sounds did say that you yeah. That's his name now right Joe. It's much better than Ronald Jones. <music> <hes> it's great I know Ron Jones great this year all right <hes> so Philip Lindsay good stuff there Dave interesting pick was fourth overall the ninth round ninth round. I should've said for overall. I was kind of deceiving hundredth overall. It was Christian McCaffrey. How Interesting Marvin Jones at one hundred overall fourth pick of the ninth round wide receiver thirty eight as I mentioned at the top of the show Marvin Jones was a top five receiver in this format non P._r.? Two years ago so obviously we don't expect that again also I must let all of our listeners know there's no way we're getting to draft strategy based on four Matt in today's show but don't worry we have like sixty shows coming up before you trust but Dave Marvin Jones why why did that stand out as an interesting pick well first of all. This is a player that we really haven't talked a lot about and I. I think there's pretty good reason why we haven't talked about him. There's nothing exciting about him. He might be the number two receiver on on a run first team with a quarterback who might not be asked to chuck it a lot last year in Peoria two games above fifteen points. He had one two three four games with twelve plus in NFLPA P._R.. He was equally inconsistent and inefficient in non Ju just a question that I want to put out there to to the panel. Why would you draft Marvin Jones? I would say this was denied around. He has played three seasons in Detroit. He's averaged over sixteen games. Sixty catches for a thousand yards and seven touchdowns that is better than a vast majority. The receivers are going to be drafted at that point or later. I think it's Great Value Yeah I. I think like he does in terms of like we are projections a lot. Both of us and for me I I have a decision on Marvin Jones in almost every draft because in my projections he comes out a lot higher than I wanNA consider him. I totally understand days point. I don't think you necessarily has like a lot of upside like this is not a very pass heavy offense. I think he's definitely a the number two behind Cantagalo who I think is a much more talented receiver. I also have a hard time pulling the trigger on because we know this is going to be a run heavy offense but the reason that you project them really well and he is good value and he makes a lot of sense in this range is he doesn't have much competition for targets. It's I don't think you know Danny. Amendola gold take us to get so many targets in this offense Kittyhawk Anderson as a rookie tight and it's really tough a rookie titles that come in to be productive right away. He's definitely going to be involved but he's not going to be like a target hog. I don't think right away. There's not got a lot of other competition. It's Jones and I kind of expect them. Both to get plenty targets get wide receiver thirty eight off the board in this draft. I mean he's not exciting but sometimes you need unexciting guys you can throw in a bye week or as a flex Alexa. Whatever if you have injuries and Marvin Jones might be that guy my most interesting picking this twelve team non league with Sony Michelle Sony Michelle you know we had that interview with Bengal and earlier this off season and I coincidentally incidentally? I'm not saying that was his interview but it just seems like since then so to Michelle's drafts doctors seems to be falling and he went fifty second overall pick of the fifth round R._B.. Twenty six I prefer Tevin Coleman one round later which is what happened but I think at that point like Sony Michelle Lamar Miller and Kevin Coleman were three running backs. I picked after the fiftieth overall pick that have potential workhorse workhorse potential essential. I should say we saw Michelle did in the postseason twenty four carries twenty nine carries eighteen carries yet at least ninety four yards and at least one touchdown in all three games he had six touchdown runs in a super bowl run so you could have a non P._r.. League fifty second overall man like Sony Michelle could have been a major major steel there and I like that pick. I liked it a lot thought yeah we just we don't know we don't know if that's going to be a major steeler. Not We have to wait and see if he's ready to go for training camp and his his draft stock could very easily rise if he doesn't miss any practice looks good seem in a preseason game. Oh looky scores the goal line touchdown Yep Sony Michelle's back you WanNa have that touchdown hog and the Patriots offense because because it's an offense to typically scores a lot of touchdowns hello analysis <hes> it's just a matter of him actually being ready to go and right now. I think there's a little pessimism about that knee being ready yet. I think there's just in a non there are fewer things that worry me about Michelle but yeah there. It's the injuries for one it's the belichick factory factor for two which kind of leads to the touchdown down situation and the U._S.'s flesh in the playoffs he had a four week stretch in the regular season were James Devlin toward like seven more touchdowns than he did yeah and then and then it's the no pass catching shirt. No look I get it. I think think all reasons to be afraid of Michelle but I do think that fifty second overall when most of the lead running backs off the board. It's like it's good. I think the comparison Jason between Sony Michelle Miller upside is laughable. Sony Michelle might have twice as much upside as Lamar Miller has if I had to bet my life on one of those backs getting a thousand yard this year it would be Lamar Miller. Yeah I mean so the two two stats two things I've looked at think irrelevant today's point about how much scoring in this offense I was looking at total running back touchdowns by team earlier this off season the saints below that category where the Patriots are consistently right behind them. If you average it over a multi year stretch they're running backs combined for over twenty touchdowns most seasons but in the last five years none of their backs other than one season has rushed for more than six touchdowns because they do spread it around to to he's point about James Devlin. Tom Brady he does some Q._B.. Sneaking and they also like to hurry up to the line when they're in passing formations and they catch a pass down to the you know inside the five and two run run quick with James White which is how he ends up with typically four five rushing touchdowns a year even on low Kerry Kerry volume lying because he gets a few of these hurry up carries the goal line so the one exception obviously two guys not getting more than six rushing touchdowns as the legare blunt had eighteen rushing touchdowns so I mean you can definitely chase that upside. It's there like if one guy gets the the full goldline work like that like blunt had yeah he could be a monster but I think in this iteration of the Patriots offense where they hurry up to the line where does a lot of key sneaking at the goal line where they started using James Devlin like he'd said I kinda think he has a hard time getting to that touchdown upside in this nation of the offense and then without the receiving. It's tough the great thing. If you don't like this iteration it'll probably change four times throughout the season. That's I don't. I don't know I I think if I think if Michelle is given the opportunity at the start now. They're not just going to take it away from him unless he loses it. You know like the Patriots. I don't think they're quite as fickle with running backs as it's been made out to be there have been plenty of examples of guys getting plenty of work. That's weird stab you mentioned about the lack of six more than six rushing touchdowns but I think the Patriots would commit to him if he plays well just matter from getting healthy and playing well and we'll say to your point Michelle had six in the regular season last year and that added some of the playoffs also like it's not true if you give them credit for that like it's it's not a question three games. How many thousand euros Russia's did they had a stretch though I don't have an up in front of me but I don't think a lot you know they tend to rotate Michelle Ed nine hundred thirty one rushing yards and six touchdowns in thirteen games so if he just does that over sixteen games that's worth the fifty to fifty second overall pick right I mean he was he was the number twenty five running back back in non last year in and off the board? He was twenty-sixth off the board. In this draft. All right gives back to like. What are you looking for in that range in for me? I'm looking for guys a half top-five upside and I don't think Michelle hasn't so he's a guy that I haven't undrafted in any league won't even that range because I don't think anyone left on the board has realistic top-five upside the next two running backs were next three running backs in non P._R.. Were to Rico and Lamar Miller Kevin Coleman Cheer. That's why I don't the draft running backs in that range and I get them later 'cause those later. If you target guys in good offenses they do have upset but James Connor Alvin Kamara if you get a workload opens up in front of them <hes> you know prior seasons James Connor Twenty Eighteen Alvin Kamara Mary in two thousand seventeen where later on picks so I I actually wrote an article recently. It'll it'll be up on C._B._S.. But it's in our magazine that's called the running back dead zone. That's a range that to me is like kind of off limits for running backs because they don't have the upside anymore and and I'd rather target backups in good offenses later that I think actually have more upside than guys like send him Shell and you can attack good receivers and tight end right right. I got all right guys so I apologize.

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AP Laboratory - Offseason running back conversation  (Ep. 134)

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AP Laboratory - Offseason running back conversation (Ep. 134)

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I'm preparing to prepare myself mid to late for this running back position review because it's kind of like the twenty twenty chiefs for Agency class like if you blink real quick. They're just not even there and so we're also joined by about Greg. Stout fight about twitter barley up. I know he's negate into some offenses skilled positions such as running. Back cy onto that Bob. This is my least favorite episode. Yet guys over the free agency RECAP RECAP Mattie. Let's get into it. I WanNa talk about running backs. Are we see them in our mentions all the time I think the mocks? She's gives some give running fair do let's do it. Let's do it and hey running backs I still. I still have a little bit of love for him. He would go to two thousand nineteen chiefs. We go ahead and we look at them. We look at the running back position and then the second half the show. We're going to look into the future. The outlook for the for the future in the draft picks and free agency and all that good stuff so first off Craig. How do the running backs do this year? They did well. I mean considering the investment that was put into the position it was pretty low. Shawn McCoy was added. He made a little bit of money. But frankly Damian Williams was very good in his role. He did exactly what he needed to that. Got A lot of out of Darrell. Who's got some out of Spencer? Where like for the amount of money that they put in the amount of assets or the lack of assets that they put into it. They actually did pretty well at the position. I think you saw differ guys at different times of the year kind of takeover. The chiefs showed their abilities. Different skill sets at running back. Lesean McCoy fake was definitely the best runner to start the season that he was able to be a little bit more patient Better vision some of the other guys so he started out here. What can a little better and as we went on he kinda faded but then we dare Williams. For a couple of games Damian Williams decided to be healthy and show up so it was just nice to see the ebb and flow throughout the entire season. Somebody who was always willing to step up and while say the chiefs running backs by themselves were never like that special like nothing about any of the performances ever great. It was always good. It was always good enough to help. The offense go along at no point in time. Was I ever just like itching? Thank running back was where this team needed to make another step. Yeah I mean overall if you look at the overall body of work it's a weird mixed bag and you know I was watching. I've been watching games just like the thirty minute short. Condensed broadcast version of games. At night of of this season the Shawn McCoy was good earlier. In the year like legitimately good and had some burst in some sudden is to him. It was making moves in space in. Like what happens. Sean Spicer. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA get there. I'm sure but like I mean this this it's been. It's just been a weird year for running backs and the thing is in a weird year. Where there wasn't a ton of consistency. They want super bowl well. It was the biggest surprise. Mattie surprise is the amount of people still think you need to add more running back talent to this group of players because I think you just saw the cheese running back like we said. The talent was pretty mediocre. And it really didn't matter especially what's Patrick mahomes passing offense going. You could probably put any one of us back there in. Come out with some level of production. That wasn't terrible. That's just what a good offense and a good passing attack does for a running game like I said. I'm just surprised that so many people think that you need any league running back in this offense to produce my biggest surprise is Damien Williams. Run through the playoffs. I mean he really had kind of a harder. Stay healthy staying. You know had some consistency issues throughout the season and then when the when the playoffs hit he was outstanding and you know it was ultra productive in the run game in the past game Had A fantastic super bowl. It was awesome to see is good for him in the back next year. That's great but I mean that was. It was a really nice run in the end of the year. For for Damian Williams mind is Darrel Villarroel will. I'll tell you what they got enough out of him to really justify his roster spot before he got injured. I know he wanted to be there at the end of the year that he felt like he was healthy enough to contribute at the end of the season. But Darryl actually look really good through the middle of the season there got a couple of games run and showed that he's actually worth a spot. I think that that's that should give some people some hope. I know. We're getting into that pretty soon here but I really liked what we got to see. Daryl Williams a little bit surprised with what we'd seen kind of last season and a little bit in this preseason all right biggest disappointment I think my big. I'm disappointed in Leshan McCoy for saying something so terrible about Eric. Be Enemies mom that for some reason. He just got thrown into the doghouse. I I don't understand that completely. There was obviously some kind of dynamic behind the scenes. If you read between some of the lines with the press conferences and and all that stuff the dillashaw McCoy saga was fascinating. Because we heard you know. I remember the first time he was an active and it was load manage but then you fast forward to Miami and the chief serve managing his load for twenty twenty one when he's signs with the Cincinnati. Bengals like I. It's just it's bizarre. I the whole thing was a weird especially as how good. He was running the football early in the season I The biggest disappointment for me is that's been aware was once again unable to stay healthy even coming in a little bit bigger a little bit heavier maybe not quite as explosive dynamic. You've got to see what he brought to this team. In terms of pass protection understanding the offense and Helping Keep Patrick Mahomes upright there. When pat needed that stability in the backfield their him getting hurt yet again and not being able to finish the season yet again. It's just a long line of injuries for him. Unfortunately so that was a little bit of a disappointment that he wasn't able to stay healthy and Kinda finishing help contribute near the end of the year. The hanes down biggest disappointment for the chiefs running back group in two thousand nineteen was somehow the nickname. Daryl the barrel catching on with felons and even if with us on this. Podcast is one of the worst nicknames ever for any player of any position besides a Rodeo clown in somehow it has stuck but realistically I think Arlen Thompson and noticing that he was a disappointment. I thought the cheeks were going to find better ways to use his particular skill set. I thought they were going to be able to scheme up. Better ways to get him into space to get him out of the screen game to disguises. Looks a little bit more and we just didn't as much of as I thought we were. GonNa get especially when the chiefs were flooded with injuries at the position and begging eighty-one any able by detail carries. They just couldn't really get him in space as much as I thought they were going to be able to. We have breaking news breaking news. Mike Panel has resigned with the Kansas City chiefs. Good on audio into it on twitter except made enough enemies notice free agency period but everybody was getting all reminiscent about the entire folk back and I always wanted to quote tweet every single person. Say why Pinellas better I wanted. I wanted to bring Mike. I wanted to bring my car Atari back. I wanted to bring them back. Let's bring them both back. I if if PAT got hurt we would need thirteen backup quarterbacks. That's the only thing we had done free agency up until today we talked about Jordan Tamou. Because we're talking about running backs a replaying Jordan. Tamou running back now. He could run. He can run all right. Let's give tax. Do we need to talk to Ed? Do we need to talk anymore about Michael later? It's good for the chiefs made sense to my cornell. I'm very excited that he's back. That's Awesome I. I don't know how they're going to do it. With five hundred fifty. Five thousand dollars cap space put. A move has to becoming at some point. Where were we reason for optimism at? Yeah that's where we are for optimism. Craig a reason for optimism. You got a lot out of a little investment Damian Williams is the perfect guy for this offense. He just fits everything that Andy Reid wants to do when he's healthy when he's playing this peak which is typically you know December January February apparently. That's the perfect time. Then you got a worker course back in the type of you know type off into Andy. Reid wants to run their so. In that regard you have him. You Have Darwin Thompson. You Have Daryl Williams. Frankly that's good enough for what Andy Reid wants to do. And the amount Andy. Reid wants to run the ball. Yeah for me. The the reason for optimism moving forward is you could go. You could play tomorrow with this group. No doubt about it and Damien Williams is back. They've they've actually included some good some good some good lottery tickets into this mix too. I really like what they've done. They've added Mike Weber who I had a fifth round great. I believe on in last year's Casey draft guide they added Elijah McGuire. Who has some pass catcher ability so like they've actually already given themselves a lot of good? You know lottery tickets in that group. They're gonNA have good competition. I mean they're going to get as much probably probably will get more out of the running back group this year or next year. Then they got out of it this year and without even having to try too hard. My biggest reason for optimism is wanted guy just talked about is Darwin Thompson was rarely used. He was only used out of necessity and I think he was. Just kind of put into the same situation that every other running backs So I'm excited to see him with another year in the office. Maybe it's like half a year given the weird circumstance. The world more time with the office more time with Andy Reid. How are they GONNA use him? Can he explained? Israelite Kelly's is the runner. He's a hard tough physical runner for his size. I want to see if his role can grow in twenty twenty and see if he just starts to become more of a focal point if an offense or at least a heavy rotated piece all right current current twenty twenty outlook. You've got Damian. Williams you've got Daryl the barrel Williams I started that Mattie by the way Darwin Thomson Mike Weber. Elijah McGuire Good Solid Group Rolling into twenty twenty. Mattie deed will just be pencilled in as your starter. I mean I think at this point in time you have to be a little worried going through his entire body of work that he can be a bell. I don't even know if he can be. You're running back one at the two headed monster just because the workload seems like it does get to him year after year but he's a good guy to have. It is kind of your lead back to start. I just think during different ways. You're going to have to rely on Daryl Williams Darwin Thompson. I would like to see Michael. Ever get a chance. I don't love him in the open field but I think he's pretty solid until he gets there and sometimes that's all you need at the NFL level to be positive play. I'm I'm with Mattie there. I think that this group is good enough like I said in the previous one was. There's reason to be optimistic because of this group already in place. You don't have to go out. Spend big money on getting a guy to do the sorts of things that Andy Reid wants to do. This group can do it so it's good. It's a really good outlook. They just won the super bowl with it that got to retain it and got good production out of it. It's not like the linebackers where they were poor and got poor production. They actually got good production out of the running backs Craig before we take a break. I just want you know you said breaking news and it you know Mike Pinellas awesome. I'm very excited to have him back. I thought we were getting something like even more big than that. I'm sorry the defensive. 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Hp officejet pro printer and HP instant INC that's HP DOT com slash. Get real all right. We are done looking at two thousand nineteen at the running back position. Now we look ahead to the future and we're going to look at some free agent fits we're going to look at some draft fits draft crushes. And we're going to start with a top tier free agents at the running back position. We're going with Devante Freeman. Mattie devante Freeman might be a year too removed from really being a top to your guy in Cuba. That's okay for for what's left. We are deep into free agency now. So you're not going to have a top. Few guys left. Devante Freeman Clearly top tier of the guys that are less he very much does fit the scheme he worked really well outside zone runs. He's not the most patient or kind of like flea foot rudder but when he stretches his own out and he sees a cut-back lane. You'll wait for when the opened up when he sees he darts through it in a hurry he gets loaded the ground like I do think he would fit really well with what the chiefs like to do with the running backs. He's plus receiver. I do just want that. He is trending the wrong direction. Maybe change of scenery getting injected into a better offense can do wonders at this late in the process. You never know what a guy coming off. Another down injury riddled year. Do for like we're talking about top tier guys like if you look at the top tier of the respective of a top tier free agent I mean this is about what I think is probably a top tier free agent for this football team And it's not going to be a heavy investment. You're probably looking at a one year deal and you're just seeing what he has left because you know even ninety percent of what Devante Freeman has been in the bat in the past is a really nice quality piece to this offense and if you can get ninety percent of what Devante Freeman has been in the past. You're getting a dynamic piece to your offense and the price at top tears up probably one year six million dollars. I guess something along those lines i. It's worth noting. That devante Freeman had fifty nine receptions for four hundred ten yards and he got targeted seventy times. That's five point nine yards per target. That is more yards per target the Damien Williams had and we talk about him. Is this great receiving back? Devante Freeman in the right situation. Makes a Lotta Sense. He's not a home run hitter. In the same way that Damien Williams is so. He's not anymore at the very least. He's more of a grinded out. Guy Like matty said in these outside zone type runs trying to get some more of those tough runs by by using his vision and playing smart not the same guy but he is a guy that would make sense as they clump. Complimentary back to Damien Williams. Let's talk about mid-tier guys now and we're going to out breaking news. The chiefs have side Anthony Sherman to a one year deal in the running back conversation breaking news back toback segments baby. I really really really just want to skip over this. Because I don't want to blast the chiefs for wasting another year of John Lovett while we feel the pay with no cap space a worthless positional player that we don't use the cheese right. Knock it so. Let's just clap. Our hands silently for another fullback. That is gonNA waste money on the roster. Replace specialties. How that sounded charged. It's the running back position sitting on it and I was sitting on it because I saw it already and I was hoping it wasn't gonNA come up. Leroy had it first yesterday by the way but now Tarez has as announced that is happening chiefs. Are we on deal and right now? You guys are deals invaded. This is somewhere. They have five hundred fifty. Let's just pause five hundred fifty five thousand dollars cap space. Another move has to come is it. L. D. T. Is it Sammy? Watkins are are they finally. Here's one thing that could be. They might maybe they finally restructured Sammy. Watkins this is just a yes. They finally restraint or Sri Structured Sammy Watkins because the market has been set by Robbie Anderson. Perhaps think about it. That's not bad that's not bad. There's logic to that. I wouldn't agree with that. There's logic to that or some team already traded Sammy Watkins now. Nobody's traded Sammy Watkins after Robbie Anderson. We're billion dollars or Sante traded for somebody else or some teams. I try not to bring up Chris Jones. Okay yeah okay. Sure you did ninety. I don't know they sound. Something's got to happen here now. I mean something does have to happen here now. They if something's coming they've pushed it all the way. They've held their car. They've held their cards to the vest this entire like off season. They've had literally like well. Not chump change because five hundred. Fifty thousand dollars is a lot of money. I could deal with that right now but I mean this a competitive. Yeah maybe by the end of this pod. We're going to have more answers. I don't know it's very fitting that in the running back pod we spend all this time talking about how running back. Don't matter that we are consistently interrupting the podcast for other things running back related. We interrupted it. Well one of them is running back related. It's related special teams related and nothing else. I really don't get the whole Anthony Sherbet and that is really going to upset like several people that listen to this show. Oh yeah I I made people upset with that and I apologize guys but that was the raw unedited reaction to sing that money on a full back to play taper set of offensive snaps special teams. Dave Tobe is having himself in off season boy. We need to get through this so we can't talk to okay Back to your regularly scheduled programing mid Tier Chris Thompson. A Chris Thompson. You're grabbing him. Because he's got quality pass catcher traits and he's a very good pass catching running back you can flex them out. He's very versatile in that regard and that's really is value and I think you could probably get him at a decent rate. It's not going to be. I mean honestly all these running backs. You're not going to be spending much on running backs. What Melvin Gordon? Get EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS. Eight million dollars. Ap Y yes on a one year deal no two year deal. Oh good for him. I it's it's it's still a little. I mean the cheese could probably afford it still. Somehow I think Kris Kristofferson makes allowances as a pass catching back. Yeah he definitely does. And that's basically all he is at this point you don't want him rounded the ball he just hasn't looked good run the ball and he hasn't gotten the opportunities do so because he has a good run in the ball but he's still catches the ball pretty well. I'd flies him out a little bit. He's coming offer some down year so he's certainly cheap now like you can probably get him in this rotation for next to nothing and who knows maybe you make him. Look good in the preseason. And you're able to trade him to Bill O'Brien because bill. O'brien needs many running backs as possible. Any first round pick fitting around Chris Thompson was just purely receiving guys he was. He came off the big bad back injury to get into the NFL. He finally started. Look like he's turning it on a little bit. There in Washington in The Washington redskins did their Washington redskins thing. He was a little bit injured again. So thrilled to tell what you have with him. But as far as a guide to the Flyer later free agency that would probably cost next to nothing. Bring him in Chris Thompson Electric running receiving running back on healthy. Give them a chance. He can actually split out by real rows at times two. So He'd be a lot of fun to the offense you just after opie stays healthy all right. Let's go ahead and look at the best. Free agent fit now and Mattie. We're going with Corey Clement. Yes so another Wisconsin running back here that we were just talking about end. He's been with Philadelphia. I don't think he's been particularly good coming in with anything. The Eagles have done but he's been buried behind some other running backs. They felt the need to always get somebody. Maybe two guys ahead of them. But anytime he's been forced the playtime. He's looked pretty good. He may not be the best pure runner out there right now especially with the Way Philadelphia kind of used them but as a receiver. I think we can all remember making some plays leading up to the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl. He made some plays in receiving game. Actually getting down fields or just he's shown flashes stuff that makes them useful for current style. Nfl team which the chiefs very much are. I think he'd be again. Another fun guy that would cost next to nothing to bring in that can affect the game on the ground and through the air. Dan He's actually a pretty decent returner as well. That's another guy. Another reason that he could fit in there into this rotation and again coming off of a very poor year. He's going to be ridiculously cheap. So that's a guy that you can just bring you into the mix head him compete with Mike Weber. Have Him Kinda rushing running in here with that fourth spot? He just makes a lot of sense. Because he's GonNa run an Andy Reid style offense. He's going to come in. No the terminology know what he needs to do to get on the field and so he's a guy that can maybe look good and camp and you can see kind of building up any of these often throughout the year. Do they sign somebody? Craig no I just don't think that they do. I think that they've got enough guys in the room that they like. I think that they genuinely do like Mike Weber. I mean if they sign a guy it's going to be maybe late in Otas or training camp whenever that's going to be now I think it might be just a camp body that we get to see here. I don't think that they're going to go out and make any moves. Particularly since guys like Melvin. Gordon Todd Gurley that maybe could move the needle on the ground. A little bit more are completely off the market. I think that was the only real chance to make a move was gonna be a guy like todd. Gurley or Melvin Gordon. If you could find them on a one year deal really cheap it essentially just rent them to plug and play them into the offense like he did with Shawn Mccoy since anyone of that caliber. Besides maybe freemen's out there. He would be the oldest guy. His precious keeps falling that. I think I could see following that mold but if not him I just don't see happening. I don't think they're bringing in more guys to battle to be part of her rotation. Yeah if anything substance. And they shouldn't and they've got enough in the building they can continue to add lottery. Tickets income away with the quality group by the end of the offseason. And Yeah they might be able to trade somebody for Bill. O'brien to I'm here to to Bill Brian as well. I mean because that's just it's it's theft. It's just delicious our rights. Let's look at the draft now favorite prospects matthew. This was a surprise to anybody. Listen to us. Talk about the draft but Clyde Edwards. Hell air running back from. Lsu Guy throughout the entire s built like a tiny little bowling ball. They apparently has very good hops. Which I think surprised a lot of people but if you watch him play he definitely suits for a couple of steps in that. Top speed is not where he excels. He's definitely not the fastest but his vision combined with this balance and just his ability to make people miss or run through them in the open. Field is incredible. And that's not even what he does best. He's at his best as a receiver. He makes catches with his hands away from the body. He they had running the Texas or the angle rallied the combine that he just looks like he's on a different planet compared to every other running back. There's other good receiving running backs out there. Clyde Edward Tillers game not only fits the chiefs perfectly. But he's just so different than what you see out of most running backs these. He's just so much fun to watch bounce around off guys much bigger than them. Hit people a spin move after spin move like his be button stuck down on his playstation controller so I just had a lot of fun watching him and he just happens to fit the chiefs perfectly. I'm going with Antonio Gibson He's a guy that I'm a little bit higher than I think. Most people are and some people have been classified as a wide receiver. He's kind of a mixture of between the two. The senior will ask them to play running back and then at the. Nfl combine used plod receiver. I like him as a running back. I like the idea of throwing him in the running back room and letting him lean on some of his wide receiver passed to make him a more dynamic running back he because because I think he actually ran okay between the tackles when I saw him on. He has good contact balance. He's explosive but he's a guy that's like he's big six to win it the catch point two. So he's like he's a unique piece and you've got to come up with with a plan for his development. I think my plan for development would be running back because I think he can be good in pass protection. I think he can run between the tackles. He has good balance. He's got long speed. He ran a sub four four at the combine. He's also got special teams value. Dave tove is GonNa love this guy. He had three hundred eighty six all purpose yards. In one. Game he caught a touchdown touchdown touchdown and he returned along touchdown. He's a unique player. He's a he's a probably a four core special teams guy with potential to be a dynamic. Pass catching weapon in the offense as well yeah. I'm going Joshua Kelly. Ucla another guy. That's good between the tackles good enough vision. He didn't catch a whole lot of passes at Ucla but when we saw him at the senior bowl he was routing up some admittedly very poor linebackers out there but he was making him look really silly he honestly was the best looking running back that we got to see there. He just looked like a more complete back than the rest of the guys that we were seeing and that was a good thing to see because we frankly didn't expect him to be much of anything so he popped in a big way there plus he already called. Patrick Mahomes the best player in the world when we interviewed him so he's automatically on the board right now so bring me Josh Kelley. All right best fit in the draft for the Kansas City chiefs. And it is. I mean he would probably be all of our favorites Clyde Edwards Hilar-. Craig Yeah this is the guy that Joe Barreau said was what his favorite player to play with the smartest player. They'd be played with the one guy that he can bring with him to the next level like to the NFL team. He could take anybody off either one of his football team at Lsu or Ohio state. If you chose Clive Edwards. That is silly that I should tell you that kind of brains kind of it. If your quarterback like Joe Borough you need trust there in the pocket and he obviously trusted. Clyde Edwards hilarity. Do everything that he needed to do. Andy was a good runner. Like some teams going to over think clydes athleticism and caused him to drop. Let Him and let the chiefs pick him up. Frankly because I do not condone running backs early but I do condone Clyde Edwards Hilar- I don't Clai don't call Hashtag. Couldn't Clyde Hashtag Condone Clyde? I think I kind of said every piece I need to about Clyde Edwards layer being the best fit for the chiefs This I do not endorse drafting. Running back hardly ever if Clyde Edward hilarious sitting there staring at you in the third round a year the end of the third round. Pick Ninety six into like. Hey we have to pull the trigger year. That's fine out completely happy if you do it in the second round. I'm upset that you took a running back but give me one week in happy that he is on my football team. That's the most excited I will ever get for a running back being drafted. You could talk me into him at sixty three. I think and I am not pro running back. I don't think running backs matter all that much. But at his pass catching value. I think makes him a little bit more unique? And I think that's the thing is like when I'm looking in when I'm looking at running backs I'm really leaning on pass catcher traits and I'm projecting and I'm valuing based on their pass catching traits. He's good impact protection. He's really good as a route runner already and I think he can get better. I mean my guy caught a corner route flex down the slot and he's five foot. Nothing he runs good. I think matters time I was angle routes earlier. They're nasty. I mean you could talk about him at at the combine in real games. He is just breaking off. It's like he is. He's one of the most enjoyable players watching this entire class. And I do think I wonder if teams are going to over. Think him because of his athletic testing our day three sleeper. We're going to go with the Michael P Ryan out of Florida. And he's a big back that has pass catcher traits and has pass catching production and those are things that That Brett visas typically coveted the things that I little concern me about him. I his contact balance. I think should be better than what it is for a guy his size and I feel like he should have more contact bounce than he does and I feel like you should be better in pass protection and then he is at this point but I think a lot of what his issues are impasse protection or technical and if he just continues to work if he gets into Kansas City. Del Makola Eric Vietnamese Andy. Reid all cleaning clean some things up for him and they could really has some nice value as a big back that can catch football and has has experienced at already. Give me a thick dude that can catch the ball for two hundred and fourteen pounds. Nobody isolate that two hundred and fourteen. Pounds five eleven. I'd just I think that appearance guide. That makes a ton of sense for the chiefs because he can play again between the tackles there. He's he's already developed pass catcher. That's a situation especially late late late in the draft. There that you can get a little bit more of a steal. He's pretty decent athlete too. So I think he's a guy that could be a real good. Fit Nadiri dominance. Here's what I really like about. Michael P ride two years ago. Before his senior season he was definitely. They're bigger back there. Bruiser back as they had scarlet. Aaronson other guys. He decided he wanted to be more part of the passing game. He wanted to partake in the receiving game. He lost about fifteen pounds. Morgan do his senior year at. You can see in some of his runs. He clearly lost his contact. Balances Power to run through tackles but all of a sudden only one year focusing on his receiving ability because that was now enrolling needed. He became a good receiver for Florida. Like they used him. Allies receiver similar to Clyde Edwards. Hilar- he's running wide receiver routes. He's really good breaking off linebackers Move My main has overtaken enchants for a running back. You see that in the game. He snags passes out away from his body. I really like what he brings. His receiver unlikely said he's got a little bit size to him so he fits that mold that she's look for. I think he's only going to get better as receiver from where we're at right now. This is one year of really focusing on it as a baseline. So that's really exciting to me. All right that is going to do it for the running back review we'll be back with the AP draft show on Friday. We will catch you if there was a spreadable COOKEVILLE. Fake -able plant faced butter. That was better for your body and the planet. 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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 564: News From the Off Season

GSMC Football Podcast

1:06:43 hr | 8 months ago

GSMC Football Podcast Episode 564: News From the Off Season

"Keep yourself in the loop of everything. Football under Golden State media concept's football podcast. Her latest news on the field be at college football ten. Sec Big Twelve PAC twelve ACC to the NFL with got you covered. Listen to golden state media concepts football podcast Usmc football podcast here on MT podcast network. We'd wounded show. We talked about all games. Football Games talking about dot com talk about also myles Garrett Dean reinstated today. Also GonNa talk about a couple of news that potentially could be made around the league potentially could go to certain places certain teams Obviously we're GONNA I'M GONNA give you my. Xfl Game Preview in predictions. Now that we have football. Still the next spouse for eight weekends and breaking down just later in the show. Where the top quarterbacks could potentially go around the league so You must listen. God stay tuned. And we're GONNA have great show today. So you know here on the podcast. You know we all quarterbacks because every quarterback has their own unique story regardless if we think they're not the best or rethink their absolutely fantastic and this guy we're going to we're going to start with is one of the pinnacles of a down. Jeans Winston James Winston recently. Gus Is Surgery to fix his vision as he would I would I saw was he had. He's always had an issue with nearsightedness. So now he's had fixed now. His vision is better. So obviously you know. Obviously a lot of jokes about a lot of people come like. Oh so this is not going to go with mini pigs is he? Is HE GONNA go from thirty? Thirty to twenty twenty. You know stuff like that but Obviously you know I mean it seems little which you never know. Maybe the reason why he stone has many interceptions as he has is his vision. He just can't see that way when he he he he sees a Hazing Laurie I'm Chug it down here and ends up not being the right person so you never know how these situations could really go. How these situations can really turn out in my personal opinion but We'll have to see. I think that obviously James Winston is a guy who has tons of town like Jane was West about him is. He's not a bad quarterback where he's like can't really move the ball for you can't score for you. It's just. He makes a lot of mistakes with his pluses. That's why it's like. You is how everybody says. You don't really know what to call or what to think of James. He such up and down guy you know. He does things right when he does things wrong. It's it's kind of a crazy dynamic because he he honestly you U. C. J. Miss is he. He's always been someone even college who could always move. The ball may be place. His first year in college really wasn't much of issue. His second year college was intersect started. Picking up and you know maybe realize that you know he shot to make plays and that it up and then he got CFO and he kept going pigs. Ed It just got worse. And obviously this is obviously the most interceptions. He's thrown in the season since he's been in the league this year and a lot of people like to say maybe. Tampa Bay could have been better. If he didn't know half the PEIXE I mean Tampa Bay has a lot of offense of talent. We'll discuss in show if we think that physician Being the quarterback of the Tampa Bay buccaneers is the best position potentially in all of the NFL with the talent they have put the Tampa. Bay buccaneers have a lot of talent. There they can run it. They can throw it every receivers tied in to have a good enough offensive line. You know and and they're really an up and coming team if you think about. They look good and so it's a big question because you know people are wondering what how do you fix? Jameis Winston. Your broadened Bruce. Arians pass to Bruce. Schering's is known as a quarterback whisper and yet his most interceptions. So obviously. That's not really what you were expecting from. You know that but at the same time it could have cost him his job in Tampa but I feel like James is too talented where you can't just be all outlet him either in the League where you just like. We can't pick up because is all thereby says. He threw three touchdowns this past year. So he cut half it into fifteen Tammuz record could have been three or four more games better. That's fifteen interceptions. That's almost if you divide that in the five games released picks a game like if you think about that you would think Tampa Bay could potentially be a top team so I think you know. He's a free agent and I think he'll have plenty of people who wanna see about him and WanNa pick him up and I think you should. James is a guy who you know. It just feels like a team. He has talent he can you please. He can make stuff happen if you give them weapons but the question is the question is. Can you get the picks to be cut in half? That's that's the question you know in. That's something that they're going to have to figure out going into the future. That's that's something that obviously a lot of people wonder about with James I think James is a great quarterback you know in terms of the deep ball. He's a underrated. Deep Ball player You know he has in listened his talent. He'll have options one team that some people have connected him to Indianapolis obviously since. They're looking to upgrade over. Jacoby Brusett and I think in in retrospect. Kobe didn't throw interceptions but he didn't throw touchdowns either till he was kind of like tyrod. Taylor you about two. Three picks maybe five picks and year but he owned by eighteen touchdowns. Which way you kind of want you correctly? Say Twenty today's NFL twenty-five really to be an effective quarterback who's productive. And so you obviously saw that in the end of the season with the colts where he for. I want to say for about five games. He didn't even throw a single touchdown which is unheard of today's league. So obviously that's one of the reasons why they're looking into that making that change and I think a lot of people would consider James over Jacoby and upgrade. The only thing is again. Can you give them a stop throwing interceptions now like I say this is surgery? Could be a big deal because if he if maybe he made some mistakes because he saw something or he didn't see it clearly actually. Kinsey it clearly. Then maybe that could make a difference. Maybe that could make Jamie's make less mistakes. Maybe that can put him in a better position. I mean that's part of it really don't know and I think that's what makes it a very interesting dilemma James is the guy who you know. Obviously he's he's been in a couple of off the incidence mainly in college. He had a couple of things happened to League but obviously nothing that actually hurt him He's a guy who Jameis Winston is under honestly one of the best leaders in league. He AQUI LEADS. He can lead. Obviously you remember his speed back in college. Talking about Lena. Leaving here without a victory Was willing to raise speeches ever in college for that program for State as that's when Florida state was really at their peak when James was there making the college football playoff. I believe to use neuro. No it was the national championship in the cowboy the next year but that was the year that James Toothpicks the pig started happening and yet because you see the talent. You see armed tally. You see the leadership. It's just if if if they can lower the turnovers then I think everybody's GonNa be in a much better place with James Winston air by is going to be more more ahead of the curve in terms of thinking that maybe he's not good enough potentially in the league Like I said he's The guy who basically hire award high risk and what you're trying to do is lower the risk but keep the higher award because you don't want them to be conservative in. Not He's not getting the touchdown even those meaningless pigs because now you're not getting as much offense of firepower as you can get from James but obviously you don't want him the one all touchdowns knowing oh yeah. He's go three pigs but he's also going three interceptions. I used to say during the season. You and Jameis. Winston comes into town as a defense. You know okay. So we bought again how he picks up. This may like a two three sweet like James was one of the guys you just expect to get a pick off of every week you there by trying to figure out who will get the pigs and then how many could you actually get off him because he always makes those types of mistakes so we'll have to see what happens with games. We'll have to see where he ends up. We'll have to see those Bruce Arians. Give him another chance. Which team does give him another chance? 'cause I think James Ken help lateen. It's just about figuring out. How can we get this type of good production in then lower the negative production? If you can figure that out for James Winston you you legitimately could have you a franchise quarterback in James Winston legitimately. So that's obviously the challenge for a lot of people but coming up next on. Gmc football podcast. Any dolphins in trade talks essentially traded to another team of Cincinnati is looking to move them and myles. Garrett was reinstated by the league. 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I mentioned colts. We also talked about just. The talent is just with James. He has the talent. It'd be a franchise. Quarterback is just came to get the good production and then lowered the negative production. If you can do that. I mean based off his numbers. Why why wouldn't he be a franchise quarterback in most cases that would kind of be the the thing with him so now we talked about last segment? But now we're GONNA get into this segment? We're going to start with Andy Dalton. The Sixty Day bagels are now pursuing a trade for any Dalton because they don't want him to end up quote unquote in a bad spot. So this is interesting to me because you know people were going to wonder how good is the trademark is going to be a needle. I think any Dalton isn't as bad as people think he is. I distinct Andy. Dalton is a guy. He's like a guy who's a he's a good sees. He is an average two decent starting quarterback if you give them weapons he can give you numbers but when it gets to like the crucial time like the playoffs. We've seen almost book Asians. He's never been able to pull through but in terms of regular season if he needed if you needed eighty dot and Carrie how season he's a very serviceable quarterback. He can win. You Ball Games. You know so. I think there's going to be interesting scenarios for him potentially Obviously you have the scenario of him starting fourteen. That may drop the young quarterback and then having him may be started year or however long it takes for. He has a bad stretch and they replace him. I think he will be good for that role. Could I think is realistic at this point? Nobody's GONNA give into Dalton starting job to be there guy long-term unless something happens like Iran Ryan tannehill effect. But I think that something that could be pursued so maybe potentially maybe Sandiego. Potentially I flicked. That's their last resort. If they maybe didn't get brady or Jamie's or or any of those guys they they would they would basically be like okay. Yeah we gotTA gained. Don't I think I don't know if they have a deadline for this trade but I think his trademark. It really won't pick up till free agency because I think a lot of teams have plans in place for what they're going to try to have quarterbacks in free agency says there is a couple out that people are GonNa want and with that being known it would be kind of weird for you to go out of your way. Go ahead pickup. Andy Dalton in then you know maybe you could have gotten another guy and so I think that's going to be the interesting scenario here for the for the Cincinnati bengals. I mean you you crazy titrate Ryan tannehill and they just gave a pig and they just wanted a better backup quarterback and maybe that could be a potential situation. Maybe some team knows their backup. Quarterbacks kind of weak so they're like okay. Let's improve our backup quarterback situation and you don't the guy who start in this league so we pick them up. We have a very high and backup. That potentially could happen now. Obviously we'll have to see. I'm sure Dalton wants to still try to be able to have a chance to play so holly last resort he will want but We'll have to see I mean there may be a team out there who's willing to give him a chance to compete against the guy and say. Hey listen new start. Got Some talent. We're GONNA have you competing somebody and we'll see what you do Maybe he could go to Tampa. I mean we've seen what James has done with talent. He just Olympics. Yeltsin has had that town before when he first entered the league playoffs. So potentially maybe that's a spike ago. There's been talk maybe F- Brady doesn't come to only bill. Belichick will be interested in coaching. You Don I that would obviously be very big A big move and very interesting. Obviously because alive who wonder well. Why would bill belichick coach? Aime why would you WanNa have a guy like that? Who's never really been able to break the SEAL? So you know it's one of those types of things and you know it's something that I think is a very intriguing situation. You know I think that you're GonNa have to see what happens because Andy Dalton I think is obviously getting his respect by Cincinnati Bengals by allowing him to pursue a trade. I'm I'm sure it's one of those things. Where maybe they'll let the agent facilitate it and then the team can just be like okay. Counting the teams really looking at a we get this type of compensation back for Andy Dalton. Because I think this is just one of those moves we just WanNa Kinda get them off the team and just kind of whatever to get him off team. They'll maybe take like a man round draft pick and just go here you go has also against him salary off the books and etc so refer you for the team who gets him. I mean like I said you're getting a pretty solid guy Andy Dalton is a guy who can come in their games. Have you need to be bridged quarterback for whoever young players Potentially compete for a starting job. All those things all the above really ended on I remember his nickname. Leaves the Red Rifle? His Andy Dalton had had some arm talent he could though he could beat ball and now you know his time in society is coming to an end as we expect this bagels to go ahead and draft. Lsu heisman trophy winning quarterback Joe Borough and for him to be able to move on in his career. And you know. Don't find him something new to to do in his last half of his career potentially so we also got to talk about what happened with the NFL reinstating myles Garrett. A lot of people initial reactions are. It wasn't long. They feel like it was a six game suspension. Which for an offense like that hittings. My with a helmet. I think a lot of people felt like it should've been longer You know I'm sure browns fans are like okay. I'm glad we got him back now. We're beginning of next season. I mean think about it. Too in indefinite suspension isn't just games going into the office and you cannot participate. Ota's offseason programming Goto the facility training camp so if I if they reinstated miles. Gary during next season he literally come into camp not even ever working with his team and he would come in their high and dry just I mean. He has enough talent where he could probably get him so back into shape within a few weeks. But it's just one of those things where it's like. He won't even have any of the all season programming unless they gave him obviously special privileges to work out with the team. Even though he suspended they could have did that but I don't. I don't think he had that so I think the NBA NFL said. You know what going into this next year. We're GonNa let you play. Just don't do it again. I'm sure Baas Gary when he went to meet Roger. Goodell is was like. Hey if you do anything like this again. I'm going to have to put the hammer on you. You're going to be gone for a season. Full Sixteen Games. Maybe more no access to the team and just you know obviously a much worse punishment so I mean you know. We'll see what happens. Obviously Miles Gary is probably the best defensive Lineman in so obviously I know. They're happy to get him back trying to get this team back on the right track next year knowing they're going to have their star defensive ends going to really help them out as always these indefinite suspensions because a lot of people feel like the. League tells everybody there indefinitely suspended because if you try to put a number on it people may not be happy with the number four games. That's not enough indefinitely. You really can't be mad because you don't know when they're gonNA suspend them. I fully believe just waits until things die down. And then they'll be like okay. We'll reinstate you because you know a indefinite suspension does not. There's not a certain timetable. It's it's more of a will is basically saying you're you're suspended till further notice and like I said it's just one of those things where there's not a certain timetable. You don't really know how long is GONNA be. I mean some people probably think he should be kicked out a leak. I mean you have people that some people may. Oh you gave another four. You could give him a usually ski mountain. Maybe a certain time. Or you know things like that you know so it's really It really depends on where you stand on the fence with miles gary and what happened last year. Obviously with Mason Rudolph. So if you know where you stand you know what you think should be the case and wishing to be the case. Then that case made and I'm sure when they met you obviously touched them things. Roger Goodell Byles. Gary did that made Roger. Goodell said okay I think we'll restate you in the next forty eight hours and and that's what they did so I guess There you go with miles. Gary so coming up next. We're going to be talking about some news and notes around the lead. The falcons mulling parting. Ways with von Freeman are the Tampa Bay bucks the best spot in the NFL for any quarterback. And Trent reams the pro bowl offensive tackle talks to Ron Rivera. The head coach of the redskins about potentially returning to the team all that more here on the podcast. Check out the show. That's built on the MMA from UFC. Two extreme cage biting they got the fights covered. Check out GMC M A podcast. Get the latest news on past or upcoming fights. Join US as we've talked to in about some of the biggest names in MMA past president future when it's the fight game there's just one show at checkout GSFC. Podcast DOT COM backslash Dash podcast. Don't forget to like on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Gs MC PODCAST DOT COM for more INFO. Welcome back to the football. Podcast here on the PODCAST NETWORK. So lasting talked about just a couple of notes. I'll we talked about two miles. Gary Meeting stated to the League. Roger Goodell deciding three miles Gary forty-eight hours after meeting with him. Nfl headquarters Obviously Mas great must've gave a convincing case for why he should come back. So obviously you know. That's a great thing for the Cleveland Browns. Also Andy Dalton's trade talks. Cincinnati is going ahead looking for a trade partner for Andy Dalton. So you can add him to this off seasons quarterback market. But that's GONNA be out there if you want any dollars and you know he'll be available by trade. I don't think he's asking for too much. They'll probably just be like just give us just give us Maybe a late round me around back picking we find so you know. We'll what happens with that situation. But we're going to insist news and notes around the League now. The Atlanta Falcons are considering mulling over cutting running back. Devante Freeman devante Freeman. During the last year of his contract I believe he's owed thirteen million this year but I think only a six point five million cat pit if they cut him they will save three million dollars in cap savings. Obviously devante Freeman ever since signing. The bill has not been what they've expected when he signed that big deal under CAL Shanahan. He had fifteen hundred seasons back to back and then ever since then he's been injury prone her every other game a lot of games. It just not giving them the same production that they paid for He's had a very Known history of concussions. So that's also been one of the reasons why he's been missing a lot of games last couple of years. And I think the Falcons obviously if you know about their caps situation the very tight against the cap so these are some decisions. They're having to make because they're trying to free cap space up to try to improve other parts of the team and essentially try to resign their biggest off scene the priority off hooper who has emerged as one of the best tight ends in the NFL. I think the Falcons probably GONNA go ahead do this because I think they just know they have to. I think that even though they don't have a another running back that's known on the roster. I think they have three running backs that could do the job. Edo Smith. Obviously he was her at the end of last year Quandary Allison and Brian. He'll they don't seem like the greatest Rupa backs but you might have to go with that committee. It's cheap right now and that's what you nuts. What you Kinda Union. Now they may be have a chance to select a guy like the Andrea Swift in the NFL draft. Or Jonathan Taylor. Potentially that may be. You WanNa look into. I wouldn't be surprised that they draft one. Do you know because he gives them competition in there. But you definitely going to look for a cheap route. Turn of a running back next year. If you're the falcons because Devante Freeman is just not getting it done. You're paying too much money in your to tidiness to cap. And I and I'm sure they'll be other moves that will be made in that front office on the team to try to free up cap space Su create More money to potentially sign up the guy's obviously as you know the cap space is also going up the off season so we'll see if this cut potentially being made in other things a how how effective this will actually be for them but I think devante Freeman at this. Point IS CAREER. He can still be productive at times so. I definitely think you'll have a market when he gets released. I don't know if you'll be a guy that that show here first. Couple of days agency gets on but maybe closer to training camp. Maybe some injuries happen. You could see somebody bringing in Devante Freeman. Don't look out for the chargers. Potentially I know it sounds a little weird because they already have a small running back in Austin. But you don't know maybe they're looking for a cheaper alternative running back obviously from Nova Gordon. And they may say ost equity can be our number one and we bring in. Devante Freeman bringing their number two and then maybe they add another bagging. Maybe three running back committee themselves so we'll have to see what would happen there but best news on devante. Freeman coming out of Atlanta in other news. A question which which team in the League has to all pro wide receivers tight ends. That are very under utilized but can be one of the better tied in the league halfway decent offensive line in a good solid productive running game if you've guessed the Tampa Bay. Buccaneers you're right. Tampa Bay is one of the teams in the League who they have a lot of offensive talent they can score points it was shown dame as Winston dispassionate but one of the things that Jameson one of his one of his issues with team was sometimes certain. Players didn't have consistent production. Mike Evans the first four weeks especially fantasy would did not get really any catches or anything. He was basically nonchalant. Because James Winstons FAC- Godwin who became basically a pro bowl receiver. This past year himself as he's also James Winston favorite target for the last couple of years also. Og Howard has been very under utilized which I think will lead to him leaving but they have another tight end and cameron bright. Who's also pretty good? But the reason why brings up a lot of quarterbacks? Are we looking for good situations this year? Obviously there's a lot of quarterbacks like Brady rivers You know Jamie's You know a Lotta guys. You've been case keenum or they're looking for for jobs and if you're looking for an offense that already has weapons in place for you to make big plays and have good numbers. Tampa is at the top of that list. Them in San Diego. Probably your top two offensive overall teams that you would want to go to hear quarterback because they have the weapons all over the field if you make the right decisions. Don't turn the ball over. I don't see why Tampa couldn't be still one of the best offenses NFL next year I think it's a place that Tom Brady should definitely consider some Florida Nfc DIFFERENT FROM AFC was in Florida. You have a lot of weapons around you bruce. Arians one of the most respected head coaches in the league I think that it will be good decision for everybody. You know if he went there. I think it'd be great. Decision in Tampa Bay has been coming defense to their team that they get the right quarterback. I think they know what the team that they assemble. Could POTENTIALLY BE A playoff team here in challenged the New Orleans Saints for the Division? So it's all about finding the right quarterback Tampa Bay has a lot of options. They just have to decide who today one morning. 'cause they're too good to really draft the top three guys just in. Herbert or Joe Borough or trade something a trade a bunch of stuff away which. I don't think they WANNA do so. They're going to have to make time. Their Quebec. Do either free agency or trade Obviously you know they could bring by James Winston. If Bruce Arians thinks he can get jealous to throw US PICKS NEXT YEAR. Who's obviously after seeing him? Thought Thirty thirty year in their season ending on a pick six. That probably left the very bad taste. Bruce Arians mouth in made him kind of sit there and think yeah we we might definitely half to actually get rid of this guy because we can't. We can't have this happening again. We can't have this hurting us again so I think it's important that you know that they make the changes that are necessary and if any quarterback in the league wants to find a job Tampa Bay ship Philbrick needs look as empty. He moved his friend whom he moved his family before he should look at Tampa obviously Tampa you know. I don't know if they want Filippini's basically what James Winston News but just older what. He's a turnover machine but he can make production too but he's also very athletic. Were James has some lettuces and can move around. The pocket full is kind of more of a standstill guy so definitely require. Their officers. Wanted to be really good if they brought in guy like Philip so you know maybe potentially even the white talks about it. Potentially maybe a Cam. If the Panthers I let him go. Media Cam Newton Could THEY TRAE Frady doll? Nauseated Dalton has done well with weapons in the past. You know in any no and gainer they make believe in Bruce Arians as the quarterback whisperer and think any guy who you Bruce Arians. We think can have one of the better seasons and run run. Run this offense effectively like it should be ran because like I said this is a big decision. I think. Indeterminate Bruce Arians is going to be a head coach here for years to come or be out. Maybe after this year. Nicks is this quarterback situation baking. Should they pick the right quarterback for this team and making sure that they do things possible to put them in the position win at the end the day because like I say often supplied the Baugh they have all the talent in the world to be one of the top offense of teams in the NFL with two all-pro receivers tied in running game? All of it so is something that definitely has to be talked about. I'm sure they'll discuss and we'll see moves to actually into making when it comes to where acquisition this off-season unless Gonna a little bit about a Trent Williams talking to Ron Rivera. Obviously we know about their situation. Trent River Williams did not like Jon Gruden in the coaching staff and the medical staff of the redskins. Obviously he sees chose to sit out the whole year because he was hurt and they said he wasn't hurt and just it was just a big mess and heath but recently he's talked to Robert and they've had positive conversation so if the red skins can acquire they're all pro left tackle back into the lineup. That's obviously going to help. Dwayne Haskins who we think. They're going to go forward as the quarterback next year and give them a guy who can protect his blindside going into the future. Because obviously you don't want your young running from his life on the blindside but coming up next we have more news notes around the league cowboys. Pushing it. 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A good tight end dot way decent office of Lyon. Good running game. I mean it feels like everything's in place for you to be you know very successful. Tampa Bay especially Bruce Arians as your as your head coach. And also who also talked briefly about Trent Williams talking to head coach Ron Rivera about returning to the team and that would be big for the Washington redskins. Obviously they can get their pro bowl of tackle back and protecting way Haskins blindside. Now we're GONNA get some more news knows around the league and all star with the cowboys. Obviously this has been a story all year about that. Press concert deal. Obviously it was reported last week. The cowboys are probably going to franchise DAK PRESCOTT. But obviously that's not going to stop them from trying to work out a deal that deck obviously made it very clear. He does not want to be franchised. He wants to be signed to a contract so obviously the cowboys are working very diligently to try to close the gap in work work on a deal. You know to make everybody happy. Some people ask the question of. Why don't some teams unless it's just an outrageous amount? Why don't some teams? Just go ahead and give the player of the money. 'cause sometimes a player's GonNa have a number and then sometimes teams are going to eventually get to that number anyway. So why didn't you just give it to them from the start? Obviously if you know anything about business negotiations teams are going to always look at what we want us to other people too. So we're going to try to see. Is there a way we can work the contractor negotiate the contract or put terms in the contract? Where we can pay you less. But you're still getting paid enough where you're satisfied because almost like this negotiation sometimes it may be like okay you want thirty five million but the low you would go with thirty three so maybe a team might be like okay. Well it but a team may think. Oh we only want to give you thirty one. You know what I'm saying. So you think well his willing to go thirty three but the Zemo. He wants to give them thirty. One obviously turned down. I think thirty two million during the season so because he wanted thirty five so obviously you know the negotiation is okay. What can we work out? Is there maybe can we put in the Senate in your contract is there is there you know? Is there a way that we can make something in? You know maybe change a salary. Maybe front-load backload stuff like that. Obviously the biggest thing in NFL players contracts and I fully guaranteed guaranteed money. Sometimes you can players willing to take less. In terms of an overall contract of more guarantee money is being served like they said. Okay. We'll give you one thirty two but we're going to guarantee one hundred million of it that maybe we'll take something like that because he's getting much more guaranteed money. Where if they're only getting a team eighty men? He may be like well. If that's the case in overall I want this contract one thirty five on sixty three but one thirty five when thirty s and one thirty six where he's expecting you know obviously more money because he's not getting as much T. Obviously you know you believe in yourself as a player and you think well. I'm still going to be here longterm anyway so I'm not really worried about all of it not potentially getting here and obviously how do you work the contract? You Front load a lot of his guaranteed money. Do you backload of ours. Whose guarantee money all those things that come into these discussions. But sometimes quarterbacks have your number it Kinda makes it seem like honestly it's more of a you know. They view themselves as top quarterbacks. So they want to be paid as such. We were not looking Dak Prescott as good as a Patrick. Mahomes or any of these top quarterbacks in the league but you have to understand this market in business an age. It's always try to get the most money for his player and then a constant issue we have year after year is that there's a quarterback who was good but he hasn't necessarily done that thing where it's like okay. Yeah we're GONNA give you anything you want. Because you're that you're because you're that good. He's not like home at Easter. Probably GonNa give me anything he wants. It's like Dak is good but there is some questions. How did he really. How far can you really takers? He's had some bad performances but he's also some great performances and so obviously a lot of those things come into those negotiations away teams to go ahead and pay these players the money they wanna get paid obviously like. I said she's a part in the league. It makes things. Obviously you know a very tough tough. You know the season for any team weird So it's one of the things that you just have to really see the other really seeing. Obviously what happens in the end the day so when another news? There's been a lot in a lot of hype behind tastes. He'll obviously this hype is coming obviously from the report from about a month ago where Jay Glazer reported Fox. Sports that the saints and Sean Payton Really Likes Tastes Hill in his looking at him. As the next franchise quarterback after drew brees. And obviously. There's been some hype behind it because there's been more reports that you know Sean. Payton seek release intrigued to see him as starting quarterback. So maybe there's a part of him that's kind of like it's almost like in a way withdrew is like yeah. You're grieve you come back. But it's not like if you leave. I'm like oh I'm I'm scrambling panicking. It's almost like well. Actually I have someone on the roster that I want to work within that role and I think can be our franchise after he goes. I think a lot of people obviously question it because it's tastes Healy's twenty nine You know he obviously was in college for a very long time playing. Byu He's been mainly gadget player his whole career in the NFL with the saints. Helius thirteen career passes so a lot of people are like. How can you sit here? And say you're willing to put the franchise in his hands and leave. He abused her in quarterback. I've mentioned before on this. Podcast I think champagne with his offense of innovate. Innovations might is not going to run. The drew brees office. He's GonNa rotates mill. I think he knows he's not drew. Can't just spread it out and say drew light him up and it's going to happen like that doesn't mean he he'll never be able to live events but that's not what you're Gonna. Ask Him do bases. I think their offense of tastes every takeover would change. I think they would. They would probably you know I always said they might make more of a Lamar Jackson type of offense because obviously you. Notation can run. He can make place. He can catch he can he can throw he can run. You can see more. Maybe of a Cam Newton the Mark Jackson type offense which has shown to be successful in the NFL and the saints have the time to do it. You Have Alvin Kamara. Who still wanted dangerous running backs with Levante Davies Murray? You have won the best received a game. Michael Thomas You know I think I think obviously like I said people are unsure about this this this move if drew brees decided not to come back because it sounds like Sean Payton feels very comfortable with just going ahead and going tasting. Hillis starting quarterback and obviously like I said that's something that a lot of people are going to wonder about because this I mean this is a pretty big move also for Sean Payton if that happened because you know obviously there's a lot of push route near outed and of tasting hill ends up not being good. It's going to be his job. Probably think because people are gonNA wonder why would you even think after drew brees a guy who has never even projected to be that? Great of a quarterback in the League is now going to be a franchise guy but it's been shown on multiple occasions. If you think the right system Arou- certain players they can be successful. I think Sean Payton fills a key can get the right system in offense implemented into the team to help with days. That's why I think he wants to know or have a full off-season will taste as the starter because he wanted that office and obviously if drew retire early late or something like that. You wouldn't be able to install the right offense that you win install for Tatum Hill. Potentially I mean people are GonNa also ask the question of if he so great. And why did you start him instead of? Teddy Bridgewater last year. Things like that so it's going to be interesting to see what happens. I've see I. I mean saints fans are going to be on edge obviously waiting for this decision. If you'RE GONNA return or not a lot. I think he will return. But you never know he might say no in the naming might be your earlier meal. The tastes inhaler. We'll have to see that more unless we're GONNA talk about to tour. Tumbler are Tom Golo. Hamath ta used to saying that but Obviously if you if you remember him Koch while you're here us out for Year of a hip injury broke. His hip. Got Surgery recently has been cleared and said that he is hip is fully healthy. But I've also heard that he will not be clued actually participating for by activities till the month which is around the Scott in cop which is around the scouting combine. Now we don't know yet to be at the SCOUTING COMBINE. But if not obviously he'll be probably ready to go for his pro day Obviously this is obviously big news for him just to make sure you can tell everybody medical staff. My hip is good. My hip is good. My hip is good and you know just give teams more competent than drafting hymns worrying about the hip. Maybe still lingering with him so obviously you know to is against the guys probably like the second in the NFL draft behind. Joe Borough a lot of people think that he was maybe one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL draft and we'll have to see what happens with to when it gets to the draft and who actually ends up selecting him in their plan moving forward with him. It's going to the future but coming up next we're GONNA talk about. Xfl Game Preview in predictions. We're GONNA talk. I'm going to talk about what I think about east coming games. He's four games coming up this week and who I think is going to be deployed victory. It all of those games right here on the PODCAST. Stay tune tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts. Now listen close and here this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searched. The golden state media concepts podcast network is nothing less than our podcast bliss with endless of podcast covered from news sports music fashion entertainment fantasy football and so much more so stop blurted around go straight out to the golden state media concepts podcast network guaranteed to fill that podcast is whatever it may be visit us at. Www DOT JESUS MC podcast dot com. Follow us on facebook and twitter and download on itunes soundcloud and Google play. Welcome back to the GMC football podcast stem. We talked about two. We're getting cleared being healthy. Being able to tell him that he's had your say ready to go from his PIP. He might not participate at the scouting combine. But he might not have definitely the Alabama pro day. I received before trying to get himself a chance at the obviously Tyson hills growing could really be the franchise quarterback to warn them saints. A lot of people have the jury out on him like insure about the decision. This appears that Sean. Payton some very intrigued seemingly have made the starting quarterback so blackface happy and as the blooming season drew brees decision. If you've been retire leans over this franchise and also the carbajal pushing back. Obviously because obviously you don't want that issue that was actually being unhappy doing beaming franchise tag deadline hand in him. Maybe not showing that the camps especially with the new head coach Mike McCarthy. You don't want that type of start to the regime now. I'm GonNa tell you all about the games coming up this weekend for the xfl giving my preview predictions and why you know you know. Why are you tuning? Anyone who I think's GonNa win the game. Obviously I'm so willing these teams But I've watched every game so I have a good idea I'm able to do this so I'll start with the first game. The New York Guardians are the DC defenders Matt McCoy knee is the quarterback from the New York Guardians as defenders are at home with quarterback Cardo Jones. They consider him the face of League. It'll be two o'clock on ABC Both teams won their first week game. So they're coming to a match undefeated Obviously you know based off what I've seen You know the New York the New Year Guardians Odd. They were good They have some talent on there They have all the attention the word I think to be able to compete with. Dc DC's vendors kind of started slow as we moving Seattle but they were at a balanced back. Harto Jones able to show why you know people look at him as maybe the quarterback in this league potentially that could get the most nfl hype potentially so and everything so but matt. Warren play very well last week and obviously like people were kind of surprised at Matt. Burgoyne is played as well as he has Remember everybody in. These leagues are fighting for a job. Obviously Guardians With Joe Horn Junior Obviously is the most well-known receiver they have on the roster The gardens play a really a complete gain last week really Obviously we know that they're Murray lead rattlers. Were not really that good but Tambi rattlers not that great but obviously it would be a great match up. I think this week for the DC guardians obviously. Dc fans are very much behind this team. Obviously tweet that said that Somebody had made a tweet saying the DC guardians have annoying fans and everybody was like lead. You started literally hour ago so y you know. Maybe you'd never know the what the Redskins ain't winning. So maybe they feel like wolves. Dr Guardians are good. The Gardens of the defenders are good. We have a winning team. And maybe that's why I mean. Potentially you know they had seventeen thousand other game last week. Maybe more of a bigger attendance this week because you know obviously has a good opening weekend. A good hype behind it. So it'll be very interesting to see what happens going into this game. I'm going to go with the guard. The New York Nothing you're the defenders. I think Harto Jones GonNa get another one. I think it'll be good game though. I think you know with with the New Year guarding and you really don't know how good they are. They have played potentially the worst team in the NFL. We don't know this obviously after one week but potentially out there we saw they had the worst performance and they beat in obviously the garden to beat the B Tampa Bay last week so clinic. It's a team that people expect to be one of the better teams in the conference. We'll have to see. I think though that the gardens have very good Defensive Secondary Cardo Jones essentially could is maybe potentially the best quarterback in the entire league. So we're going to have to see what happens when I'm going with the Dc Defenders to pick up the victory and win next game. We'll talk about the Tampa Bay vipers of the Seattle Dragons Five o'clock game on Fox. This game obviously both teams loss last week. Obviously we know Tampa Bay fibers by Aaron. Mary lost badly. And now there's controversy between in those teams Eric Flowers came last week and made a couple of big plays form coming off the bench so a lot of people are wondering if the vipers are Gonna go ahead and replace Air Murray with Eric Flowers obviously the Seattle Seattle Seattle rattlers is. I guess the Dryden you see him certainly seen see how dragons obviously lost to the DC that vendors last week but they did put up a good performance. It wasn't like it was about performance They play well to the end. And you know Brandon. Silvers quarterback play pretty decent. They have some guys Austin pro. He looked like a pretty good receiver last week on. You know they got some guys This this I think if you go off again we can go off one week in football. So I'M GONNA go with the Seattle dragons to pick up the win. They look they were able to compete against it. Easy Gardens pretty pretty well. I mean literally until that fumble late in the game. The game was over. They had a chance to come back so I guess based off the two performances. You feel like that dragons. Look the best of this game now. Obviously if maybe Tampa Bay makes that change of quarterback Eric Flowers comes in and plays better than maybe potentially fake could maybe get. I guess you could say an upset here but I think a lot of people are GonNa go with the drag even drag on the road they are going to Tampa Bay. This is GonNa be taking home game and obviously I think Fox is obviously hoping for a better game. 'cause you're ever having this game and then they come out and play a bag. That's obviously not gonNa look good for them. So I think that is going to be important to that. Obviously a better performance overall. But I'M GONNA go with Seattle in this game. I think you're GonNa be picking victory in you know do good things and do honestly you know they also have one of the better running games. I think out of coming away I saw so veal make mistakes in a shoot themselves on the floor. I think victory obviously the next game of the beginning next week the Los Angeles wildcats versus the Dallas renegades obviously the ABC on Sunday. Two o'clock Dallas renegades loss last week Los Angeles loss last week so both teams coming in Owen. One Dallas actually was favored in Vegas to be the best team to win it all this year and xfl obviously losing to the Saint. Louis Hawks really wasn't a great start for them. you know. Thous- didn't have their starring correct last week Landry Jones Hill I. I've heard that he's supposed to be back this week. We'll have to see the actual mix back this week. Obviously I'm sure Bob stoops was will I would like to have his team at full strength. I didn't obviously you know is Dallas. So you know people have these high expectations for Dow is all the time. 'cause I guess Dallas is just the city where you always better be so obviously loss Angeles wildcats got little last week by. Ucf NEXT AND PJ Walker so obviously they fired offensive coordinator earlier this week and they're hoping to get a better defensive performance out of their defense we hopefully because obviously that was they were probably at best on paper the worst defense that play last week and obviously you don't want that. Metra of being the worst defense at play in which is why these changes were made I'M GONNA go with the Dow's ready Gates come bounce back this week and get a W. I think that especially comes back. I think they'll have enough firepower to be able to overcome the wildcats. We don't know what they're gonNA look like especially defensively After after last also we also have got forget Los Angeles than have their quarterback last week. I was just Joshua Johnson. We don't know if he's going to play. So we could have a game or two quarterbacks who were hurt last week me back this week playing US each other and maybe that could change the outcome of the game. But we don't know rather go what we know and right now the Dow is reading rooms are probably the best team between these two teams right now. So this the the saint the Saint Louis Battle Hawks at Houston right next to the last game on Sunday at six o'clock obviously this is a game of one. Zero Teams Saint Louis. Obviously not have. They're starting to arrive last week but could have their last week. In the last you did not play bad at all. So if they play well I like Mr beautiful beaches as well and obviously the Houston. Roughnecks look was dominant teams in the xfl last week the PGA Walker dominating the Los Angeles wildcats Obviously there's a lot of hype behind. Pj now a guy that some people even said should it may be one the job because we asked him he was with me. I felt was with the Indianapolis Colts. Some people say he should have won the job over. Jacoby Bruce it and you know right now. He teaches at this trend. He's going to be. Xfo Star probably cheating a contracting NFL. So we'll have to see what happens with that but I think I personally you know I am going to Houston you know. Honestly I'm not in homer but people pick which team you're GONNA be a favorable. I'm I'm beef into Houston re roughnecks because I've been keeping up with BDO Oscarsson temple. And I've always liked him and I just think that obviously they have some talent they have some of the better series like Sammie coates on the team and they other guys that can play really well they weapons and everything that you want you want to potentially be one of the best teams in the XFL and potentially be there at the end when he gets to the championship but those are pretty good reason predictions. I'm going to his next to win this game and coming up next. 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You know we still have football to talk about so is going to be obviously a great time for the next few weeks as long as it fell still here and if they can keep the fort lamentable that they've had coming into this season and after last week's opening week so now we're going to talk about for someone talking about some quarterbacks. We're going to discuss where I think they could go why they go somewhere. And we'RE GONNA go from there. I quarterback is Filbert I think. Full rivers is obviously an interesting case he could. Potentially you know a lot of places. I mentioned earlier. How he moved his team full family to Florida. Tampa Bay does have a quarterback opening because it does not seem like they'll bring James Mussa. I said I don't know if they make that move. Even though I have heard that they have legitimate interests rivers. I think right now since. They're the only team that we've heard right now. That has legitimate interest in Philip rivers right now all we can go with his Tampa Bay right now and so I'll go at Tampa Bay ending up with rivers. I just feel like with what they're what they're get letting go for him. I'm just like a less full rivers is going to have one of his. Most efficient seasons they had give them a high quality production but less interceptions. You're basically getting a number jameis Winston just older. It's just like is that really what you want? Is that really what you need in this situation? That's kind of the big question is kind of a big situation here. If you're if you'RE BRUCE ARIANS IS A. Are you getting wasted? Which you didn't want before. Ask Her to be kind of the big question there so but I do think right now sister. The only tennis reported interest. I think he'll end up right now in Tampa Bay. We'll have to see obviously another quarterback not really more for if he's going to leave but Moore is GonNa Return do breeze. I think drew brees was GonNa Return for another year. I don't see I feel like it's not like drew. Brees is plays diminished. And we think that he can't play. It's just more of a. Does he think time just to hang up? The boots obviously reported obviously about the say some hills situation now. There was a report also that they would prefer him come back just to give him another year Tatum Hill I think. Ju Breeze with talent coup potentially make one more year at a run. So it just depends. Does he feel like going through the grind going to the camp going through the season and the he believed he could play a high level in help his team get there. Obviously there live disappointing playoff losses and exits last year's Cannes. Way On you. It could definitely weigh on you. We don't know it could be weighing potentially on drew Regular everybody thinks right now. He is leaning towards coming back so we'll have to see. So I'm I'm also GONNA be one of those people who says I think he'll be able to return and come back to the saints for another year. A little quarterback who's going to be on the market and we're GonNa want him is is the Teddy Bridgewater I think that Teddy Bridgewater. Obviously after having the season he had coming in for drew brees leading into a five and a record as a starter. A lot of people very impressive. How he played making mistakes made good pros and I think obviously he has a very big market. Obviously there's a lot of Quebec's out there Tampa could be in there but already got going rivers. You really don't hear much about New England You'll really hear too much about San Diego even though that could also be a potential destination team that you hear him connected to ally is the Carolina Panthers I think Carolina Panther obviously have a good system around him if they do decide to move on from Cameroon. I think that he'll end up there. Because I think of Christian McCaffrey has your star running back. I think that you feel as if he is. The running game needed in. They have some good receiving weapons. There in a decent office of wire teddy could be successful Obviously the saints situation was a perfect example. If you have a team like that you can be yourself Bridgewater obviously the payers kind of defensively in the obviously they lost their best player this off season but I think of Matt Rule in this offense staff and get their ship rolling this offense going. I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be. It would be successful again next year and get back to winning ways and Carolina in signing brought bridgewater could be the first step in doing that moving forward so I think that's obviously something we can look. We can't overlook and we cannot rule out guys. Tom Brady. Obviously this is one of the bigger ones. You know it'll be interesting. I mean one thing. Brady's been looking for this whole time. Looking for a job is just appreciation recognition. Giving him the appreciation. He deserves as being the quarterback for as long as he's had you know they said that crafts not GonNa Force Belichick to sign him. Vaalser heard the Patriots winning and what he wants There's a lot of teams interested Sandiego. Obviously Oakland is old not Oakland anymore. L. A. is interesting both. La teams technically no la the LA chargers. And the Las Vegas raiders interested. He has a lot of Tampa Bay. My title their rings of the Hat because a lot of teams that WANNA get Tom Brady but some people think he will come back. People saying he'll he'll he'll do. It's kind of a very complex situation because you really don't know 'cause you feel like he wants them to have better weapons but if they pay him the money are they going to be able to. I feel like this is going to be one of those freed decisions that he won't make really quickly. Some people think that if he doesn't soon before free agency begins he's Khanna made his decision. Because you know if you wanted to come back you've signed a deal but Brady said he's GonNa Test Agency so we're GONNA have to see so we're going to have to see what. New England does teams are going to be waiting for his decision. So you might potentially lose some free agents if these teams looking for. Radi because they're going to be waiting on him. 'cause obviously you know your after doing big chunk of your salary no WanNa give players certain money and then you gotta still pay Brady a big chunk of his go to your team so that could potentially have maybe live a coup. Why effect potentially where you ain't go miss out some guys because you really waiting on one guy to make a decision. I I think right now. I think he'll I think he'll stay in New England? I I just. I'm not sure it's really hard right now. This point maybe a month from now when free agency starts we'll have more of an insight on what he's GonNa do but we'll have to see obviously Jameis Winston next Jameis Winston. I think is in a position where he's tons of talent he'd is probably a fresh start in a new team in one team. I think they can give him that as the Indianapolis Colts I think the cool they have a good system they have good kosher. They have a good coach. They are one of the best often with a blind in the league. They have a more than back. A running back t t y Hilton are receiver with some upcoming talent. They have a good defense remember. They were thinking resisting. Amigo Subaru Angela before he abruptly retired and they had to go with your company percent. Obviously percents has shown why he is an average starter. But James was it could potentially be that would be the team that gets the top potentially essentially and I think that'd be a great place for him to go with the culture. They have their. I think he should definitely look into going there in joining them and making them a better team. I think there is absolutely no reason why he should have ended up there I think it will work. I think ill work. I think Frank Right Geeky he can get the most out of James and get them in the right position to be successful. I think that they'll be willing to give them the money. And I think if you say if he if he curricular turnover issues you feel like we all hope in the world that you know. He'll he'll be successful so in the last week we're GonNa Talk Ryan Tannehill. I think Ryan Tannehill will stay with the titans. I think it's a foregone conclusion. I mean there's been I've read before. Obviously that the titans plan on locking them for Free Agency starts. People have tried to put Tennessee certain markets. But I think Tennessee doesn't want to take that chance of letting him at the market and somebody else might try to get into Catanha Hill because they're trying to see. Maybe they ever GonNa chance for another quarterback and they're restarting position going or maybe having tomorrow Mary. Yoda which I'm sure they know what to do. So I'm sure I think Tennessee the best place for him. He showed that he can do something with this offense and they can be explosive and the team's season change when he became the starting quarterback so I think he deserves to be paid. I don't think it'll beginning five sixty deal but maybe like a two three year deal pretty good money twenty five thirty million a year. Potentially we'll have to see you never know but I think I think Tanny Hills GonNa end up staying with the Tennessee. Titans and maybe positionally finishing career there. We'll have to see but That's all we have for you day on the GMC football podcast. Thank you for tuning in and listening. I'm your host price Louis A we hope you tune in for the next episode. After this and I'll please don't forget. Don't forget subscribe in flawless. 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But really port news happened last night day you not yet. You bet. Did that important betta did Stefan. You're bell has been freed from the tyranny that has Matthew Bury's board bet prison. I would like to take -gratulations. I am now board bet eligible. You are. You should think Daniel. You should think that was very. Yeah, I think Daniel anyway. Yes, congratulations to use secret squirrel. Congratulations to us to find your hopefully we can. Hopefully you'll be you'll be better on the bets. Did you guys see? I was watching. I washed it after it was. Did you guys see the post game press conference? The Josh Gordon did not when I was it was it was pretty cool because I was watching it and he was, I know the game ended late. So I get that, but Paso bed seriously. So after and of course game press conference. He was talking about his pre-game warmup and what is that he was doing and he actually made a comment about his hamstring, but I can't recall it. Oh, I see what you did there now you're just now hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I got two more hold on here. The one about the answering. It's not even a job. It's not even a job. Leg up competition. Way too much time around math because humor. Oh, actually, he, Josh believe, Josh. Gordon actually posted a photo on his Instagram should be up on your Twitter screen. Now. That's outstanding. I applaud for going this far more orders. Twitter sphere. I gotta say one more hamstrings are read, the colts were white and blue. Josh Gordon replaces. He's recalled hamstring and scored a touchdown over not one cornerback but to national poetry. I'm inspired by your in Iraq. Not terrible, but yes. So congratulations to define you and secret squirrel for for winning the bet listeners, Josh Gordon first all to back, Josh Gordon, welcome back, Josh Gordon, I started him. I'm playing to find in a league this week, so I double down on my. I hedged my bet as it were. So you cover both sides. I lost the bet Josh Gordon had give me some sweet fantasy points. It was looking good for me for a while, but then ultimately Justice prevailed. To see me from the national football. Replayed today, we'll get right into the game previews. Instead, we begin with one of the most antiquated regular season games of the season. We will talk patriots colts on Monday. When we recap all of we as we do as we have come Trish in for us this season on the six. Oh, and l. let's go to Kansas City where the chiefs host the Jaguars what an amazing games one could be between her strength on strength. Let's start right here. Let's go to the injuries. I and Sammy Watkins to find your left Monday night game with the hamstring issue to expect him to play on Sunday. I think it's very iffy. He's been limited in practice. I think if you look in the context of all of Sammy soft tissue injuries over the past and the fact that obviously we talked about how easily hamstring aggravated. I least be concerned at this point about his failing. You can be a little bit more big picture concerned when you're four. No, like the chiefs are right now. Not that every team isn't mindful of their players health and putting it first, but you've. Little bit less margin for error. If you're one in three right now than you do if you are for? No. Blake, Bortles has been well sort of Blake Bortles e this year, right one week up one week down one week back up. The chiefs have allowed every passing yard available to seize Matthew. Can you trust Blake Bortles as starting quarterback this weekend? I think he's probably the best option out there in terms of streamlining available and more than fifty percent leagues. If you're looking to stream somebody this week, I think he's likely your best option there. So can't city. Has allowed the second most passing yards passed on by league-high one hundred seventy four times this season. No Leonard for net. In this game, we've seen Bortles numbers go up for whatever reason when four net is not in their, the Las Vegas implied total for Jacksonville game is twenty three points. The Jags of scored at least twenty points on two occasions of the season and those games Bortles eight hundred twenty seven yards of offense. He's thrown six touchdown passes in those two games. He's finished his top ten fantasy quarterback in those two games here given that this defense is struggling and it's defensive traveling on a short week, the games in Kansas City. But obviously they played Monday night in Denver. So they're traveling on a short week here. Yeah, I have. I have Bortles as a top fifteen play this week. I think he's of the quarterbacks available more than fifty percent of league's. He is my favorite streamer Len Flynn day lead for net was announced his out on Wednesday. They got way ahead of the curve. Yours devante TJ Yeldan steps into a more prominent role. If you had Yellen on your rust or do you view him as a top ten play this week against the chiefs. I mean, you can run on. Chiefs and teaching Elden already proven his value in the first few weeks of the season, because let's be honest learn for that hasn't been available for honest. That's right. Honestly, honestly let for not has not been available, correct. Yes, that that is my point that yes, I would. I would trust TJ Elden because we know in advance. He's going to be the guy. He used the clear cut starter will let her for net sits his twelve touches in all four games this season, and remember that net started, but did not finish two games than of course, missed two others. The chiefs have been generous across the board on defense math yet to find a wide receiver amongst the Jaguars has some flexibile invoking the fantasy football now segment sure. A little bit early on Friday who to be. I like Dede Westbrook hair. I mean, so Westbrook leaves the Jaguars in yards per catch after the reception. He's actually fifth in the NFL among all wide receivers in that particular statistic got two different games this year with over eighty yards already catching seventy five percent of his targets, which which is the team high. So when he throws it to Didi, he's coming down with it as well, probably matched up with KENDALL fuller whose. Had an inconsistent season so far. West reclines up in the slot quite a bit here. Honestly, I think Westbrook just to talent player, and if we're thinking Bortles gonna move the move the chains here in a significant way. Unlike DD look, you got your keeling coal, you got your Moncrieff I guess. But yeah, gimme some d. Westbrook who made the loveless this week. Love hate is back. Love hate is back and graduation to you. After a five week retirement, you're the breakfast, fantasy writers -gratulations on that Mike Francesca. Yeah, exactly. If you play that was a good line offering, send there, but the chiefs, their offense is awesome. The Jaguars defense is also awesome if you're playing daily fantasy football. If you're thinking about setting a lineup, the Sunday, we would advise you to if there's ever a week to not pay the price for Kareem hunt, Tori, Patrick Mahomes or Atari kill Travis, Kelsey. This might be it because the weakness of the Jaguar defense is Jaguars office. There isn't a week on the Jaguars. They're very good and every single way, but Vicky season. Formats? Is there a single chief player that you are not starting that might normally be considered in your lineup? I, you know, keep Kiprich Mahomes you can't create. Hans can now don't get cute. You're starting all those guys just lowering expectations. Hammy Watkins is the guy that I'm not starting in one. Again. We don't know if he's gonna play or not, but even if he's healthy given the injury, given the the matchup here, he's a fringe guy at best anyway. Yeah. To walk one scenarios I could see, you know, kinda like we talked about, Josh, Gordon Hampshire, it, you sort of contain what you use them for, but you put him on the field if eat, no, he's like Moli moderate rusher when needed and it. Somebody else have to account for pick this game chiefs for three and a half point favorites. I go with the chiefs. Daniel, what he got. I am also taking the chiefs star fine you at aero head chiefs, three and a half. Surprised that half point didn't swing some people Matthew. So I'm pulling up my pigskin pick em here. It's the line is what is three and a half points and a half points. The the chiefs are favored by three and a half, correct. I'm gonna take the Jags aren't Matthiessen Jaguars let's go along to the Packers and the lions. Let's begin though, because there are a litany of injuries for the Packers to find what wide receiver is helping. That's easier way these I say, I'm gonna start with who's out Randall Cobb being out. So you can just know that upfront hamstring injury last week. He's out no, no progress for him. Allison has been in the concussion protocol still there as we mentioned yesterday, the Packers old practice on Saturday, not Friday, Mike McCarthy sounds like there's hope for drama Allison, which tells me that he's made some progression through the phases of return to play, but not doesn't have final clearance yet and that probably won't come until Saturday. Devante Adams is the one we have most question about calf injury this week in practice, and what I'm trying to get information on right now is for the people who are there, does this look like an injury, limping? You know something where you're like, wow, it's really, or is it just devante atoms, get some tightness and they're like, hey, we're gonna pull you out of practice because we don't have health at the other positions. Robbed. Moscow covers the package for us said, you know, he has seemed fine, not limping around the practice facility and so forth. But because there's no practice right now, you really not gonna know much until Saturday. He is going. To be looking to talk to him this afternoon. So you wanna stay tuned for that update, but Dante Adam seems like he has the potential to play the. I'm not going to ask you, which of the dart throws in the Packers. Wide receivers has the most upside. If devante atoms were to sit Android Alson were, I'm just going to list the names because they unfamiliar. I was going to ask you, could you spell them as Cassini some Marquez, Valda scanning, right? They massive prospect who had very little. He was played south Florida did never kind of production, but the dude is a freaky run like the wind equity sent now and six foot four. By the way. I mean, he, he's anti guy. He's a big guy that can run like the wind equity and he would by the way he would be my favorite. I mean, McCarthy came up and said he would be the next guy up by the way to catches so far this year. But again, I told you, I'm Divina gave you every injury there. Now, there's also economic, Saint Brown trout and pick out of Notre Dame has not caught a pass this year sounded like during the preseason did not make the immediate Mark that some thought he could base off again, his. Massive speed, his massive frame, and just his upside that you saw times. Notre Dame is also Jim on more fourth round, pick Adam zuri all three. These guys are over two hundred pounds and over six three. So they're all big fast freaks that could potentially be something down the line. They're all young. Matthew Bury's is another way to. This is sort of understand. They're all young. I'm I'm over six foot. I'm over two hundred pounds. I would say, I'm surprised fast. Know that part is not true. Plenty with what I was going to say is this is I don't know that we are equipped right now to have great insight on these players with this much uncertainty about drama Alson and devante, which is a good time for us to remind you that fantasy football now on Sunday mornings is the last chance for us to really hammer home. What we know it who would suggest thing I would say is that McCarthy made a comment about Valdez scant Ling saying, you know, kind of shining some optimism when it looked early, like Randall Cobb would be out that there would be more of a role for him so for what that's worth. So let me Leers worth think we can analyze a little bit is Aaron Rodgers. All these guys are banged up Matthew. Like, are you worried about Aaron Rodgers with all these pass catchers? Yeah, lean so holy out the real quickly just to, you know. So we all agree that if you're going with some of that is one of these big three guys, we all think this can't Lynnwood the guy, but it is a little bit of a dart throw here and as. Defined pointed out yesterday. Tomorrow is the big day Saturday. The Packers were unlike a lot of teams where Saturday, so they don't really do much on Friday Freddie. When Mr. yesterday show believe it in its philosophically, they do this because they feel like it's healthier to run through some work on Saturday before game. That's so so anyway, and be sure obviously to check his injury, blog on Saturday on ESPN dot com company man. But I doubt I'm the lowest of the three of us on Aaron Rodgers. I haven't QB six this week and to be honest, I might be too high on him at six, which you would think, well, a shootout with Detroit. Aaron Rodgers usually kills the lines, right? You're familiar with that. Daniel. How badly destroys the line familiar with gearing year out whether they're playing at Lambeau with the plane at Ford field. I mean, he just crushes them sure. Yeah, yeah. So I just didn't know if you're familiar with that because I watching numbers and relive a bunch of those games if you want. No, I know I hear what you're saying. Okay. Good. Well, anyway, last three games weeks, two through four. He's been cubing nineteen field like he's he's averaging under seventeen fantasy points per game. He's averaging just two points more than Russell Wilson over that timeframe. Here you remember that crazy fourth quarter in the first in the first week or they just they sort of came back against the bears, and he came back so dramatic national game here. He scored twenty fantasy points in the fourth quarter of week. One. Fifteen other quarters season fifty, five point four points that's fourteen point eight per four quarters just to give you a reference Russell Wilson currently averaging fourteen point nine. So it's just it's not good. And now you're looking at a bunch of pass catchers that he hasn't had a lot of practice with this week that may not be out there. Randall cubs already officially been ruled out field, so so yeah, I'll probably when I do my update today after all the practice come in, Aaron Rodgers will be even lower. I don't know that he has no-brainer. Don't think about it start. I think he's a borderline QB one. Let's move on to carry on Johnson's. We had a lot to break down to that Packers wide receiver spot before we move onto their. I just wanna see very quickly because of all this, I do think Jimmy Graham made the loveless this week. I do think Jimmy, Graham gets an increase in targets and looks in this game. And I've said it before this week. This is the Aaron Jones coming out party, especially with all the wide receivers broke up. They will lean on their run game. This is the Aaron Jones coming up party. That's my belief. Ma- Patricia has said this week. He hasn't won a necessarily increase the workload of kerryon Johnson taking a bigger. Picture view despite the fact that he has been the alliance best running back. Are you not close? Are you buying that? He will not increase the workload and depending on what you think about that, are you curious at all? Are you interested in starting him? I'm not interested in starting him. I haven't basically ranked as a flex plan, sort of a low in one at that has. You know, it's kind of the old. Well, if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. So never yet. So if you've heard that, obviously, I sometimes I never know with field because it's like, you know, like their stuff, he just doesn't know, happens all the time yesterday we were talking about Bob Ross and the control cows whose Bob Ross. And I was just like, I lost my mind. I just all right. Young around Johnson's alot inflect for you? Yeah, I mean, so my point is just like he's not getting the work matters says he's not getting the work. He's probably not getting the work. I is. He talented player, of course, he is. Should he be getting more work? Yes. Should we be free carry on Johnson? Yes, and yes and yes, but until I see it, I can't feel comfortable game starting him. Yeah. So you're starting all your wide receivers here. Let's pick this game who you got Packers. What is one and a half point favorites. I'm taking the lion's. All right Steiner. Well. I'm gonna take the Packers. Matthew, this kills me, but I'm taking the line or ROY up roar lion roar ravens, et Cleveland. This game the old Browns versus the new Browns. Alex Collins did not participate in practice on Thursdays defying. We get the sense you might sit out this game. I don't think so. I think this is some sounding like this was a precautionary move. This is one of those where you see something on Thursday and you go, okay, let's see what he does on Friday, but I did not get the sense that there's a significant injury here. That's good news for Collins, but now the Alex Collins was buck. Alan conversation begins Matthew and book Allentown, the nose for the end zone calls played better last week. Do we think though still like it's clear cut the Alex Collins is the that you would be starting if you had your druthers amongst Baltimore Bax. No, it's not clear. Cut it all. I mean k. as we as we come into into it this morning again, we'll see what happens this afternoon. Outcomes at twenty four bucks on twenty seven. I mean, I think when you add the injury aspect to oust cons, and I know it might be somewhat maintenance related, but he's averaging just eleven point. Three carries per game this season, right? This is Alex Collins here. I mean buckle and has four touchdowns on just forty. One touches thirty percent of his carries have come in the red zone counts, fifteen percents, some of that skewed because obviously gets more work. But I think fantasy wise, I think who's got the best chance to get into the end zone. I think it's a toss up there and then you you in the fact that counts may not be a hundred percent of this game. I think the both flex place I have Collins higher than buckle and but I don't think it's a, oh, you definitely starting cons and there's no way you're considering buckling. I don't think that's the case. John Brown is healthy has been solid so far this season's too. He's got a touchdown in three of his four games. We now have risen to the point where he is ranked head of Michael Crabtree, but are from my clay as we know, Mike is very, you know, he's, he's ranked prices. He's very process with his ranks, but you believe, as we all do that, John Brown's, a ravens wide receiver you'd most prefer to start. Right. And I think it's what we're talking about earlier this week that Mike argument is the volume isn't there and sort of what we talked about is we've seen the report developed between flacco and John Ron started in the preseason. You saw hints of it. Matthew was high on him late in the preseason before the season got underway and it's essentially carried through a touchdown in three out of four games this season fancy always looking for touchdown. So you know, and, and he's going to get yardage with the catch, you know. So I. Right. Argue that he's moved up good news for Michael crabtree's got at least eight targets and three straight games. Matthew Antonio Calloway's been player. You really liked for quite some time now, but are we at the point now where he did his last chance to make good on all these targets it's getting because at some point people are going to say, listen, I don't care if he's getting ten targets game. There's only catching four of them is not good enough to marry spot my lineup. Yeah, that that's that is that's the concern here. I mean, I have them in the forties like you're hoping for one big play. I look. I like I like talent. You certainly love the workload in the looks, but in terms of this game going against very tough raven sefence that gets Jimmy Smith back from suspension here. Hard for me to trust Antonio, Calloway, given the inconsistent production we've seen from him so far before we move off this game very quickly. Just wanna take a quick mention we should. We should see Hayden Hearst back for the Baltimore Ravens here. First round pick tight and out of South Carolina. I can just tell you, I don't know how much usage you're going to see out. Hayden hers. It is worth noting that since twenty sixteen the ravens top five in the NFL interns tight and targets tied in completion, percentage, red zone, completions, tight titans. I just know as a team, they really like Hayden Hearst, and he was he was. He was the guy coming out of college that they thought this is gonna be our pass catcher. Now, they've got a couple of other guys, you know, max Williams and but Andrews, Yep, Mark Andrews, but Hayden hearses somebody that I picked up a number of leagues coming into this weekend. I think he's a sneaky pickup just giving how brutal the tight end position is just Hayden Hearst out there. Everyone just if you can't stash on your bench and see what happens with. I think he makes his debut this week. He was close to playing last week, but still limited in practice. I think volume wise, you probably just dips his toe in the pool. I'm not suggesting you start handed. I'm just saying, I think he's going to be popular pick-up soon seen him. Yes, might be the week. You see artless pick this game. The Browns are two and a half point dog. I'll take the ravens on the road. I'm sorry. Daniel, I don't mean to do it to you. Take it. That's tough, but I mean, Keith. Yeah, that's all right. Nobody. Your interchangeable. I actually, I'm going to take the Browns this we Alrighty, but lights for you, and I'm gonna go at the Browns this week to Mattie, be who you got? Yeah. I mean, they're getting two and a half at home. One, Cleveland be all fired up because. Well, they lost a heartbreaker, but that was the way. This is this is at home is up the dog pound taking the ravens ours define you what he got force. Let me tell you about, Twenty-three me. Do you know it's DNA testing service that can offer insights into your ancestry. We're talking about a twenty three year old and you and I was all excited on product. 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The falcons are pretty much like you know how Dan Quinn puts you through the tests and you got to be able to show that you can go before they let you go. So it was going to say is keep an eye on this. I don't. You know, we talk about a player. Comeback is fully healthy. I think you're talking something Allah, Doug Baldwin here. This is a knee issued that devante Freeman may end up having to manage over the course of the season. So when he goes out there, you hope for everything now, but long term, I'm not sure how well his knee holds up. Here's the good news. We all have him ranked is if he is going into this game without limitation, we all have been side of our top thirteen and his long those lines, having Coleman slides back into flex territory, understanding the Tevin Coleman. Even with devante Freeman on the field can be a factor, but where people might have some questions and maybe the shouldn't anymore. Matthew is Calvin early. Look. At what point do we stop questioning whether we should start him and just a crank it up. Calvin rarely go at their Cormie touchdown. Look regression is absolutely coming for Calvin Ridley in terms when you look at the number of routes and the targets he's getting like you just scoring at an unbelievable, right? So regression is coming. All that said, I'm not convinced it's coming this week. I want as much of this game as I can get the highest over under of the season as well and given how red hot Calvin Ridley is and how much Pittsburgh struggles with the long pass. I mean, they've allowed a league high twenty one completion so far this year. I don't know how you bench cavity. I don't know how he's not in your lineup. Like I I had. I applaud the fantasy manage out there that says, you know what? I'm going to click Calverley out against the Steelers. Like if you have the the, the, the fantasy fortitude to make that move my hat's off to you. I think you're crazy. But yeah, you gotta start Kevin Ridley here's what comes down to is that like I would be more disappointed if I sat Calvin relief and he scored again, then I would be upset if I played him and he goes for four for forty as opposed to five for seventy with touchdown by the way, I think that's a great point. And that doesn't. It's sort of like it's a little bit of a fantasy game we play for fun. Right. And and as I talk about on the manifesto, it's like, what's most likely to. Happen and things. It's it's a, it's a game played with a leather ball. That's an oblong shaped like weird stuff happens. My friend, Joe Bryant says, so it's in this game that we played a little bit of like, of course, you. It's an ocean, emotional. What can you live with? And I agree with you, like if you've bench Calvin Ridley and he goes off, you're going to feel like a moron. And if you start Calvin really and he doesn't do anything. Well, of course, what are you gonna do. It's a little bit like we've talked about with Alvin cook last week. Well, Baker Mayfield what reminded me people are adding Baker Mayfield because they want the possibility to have them be awesome and be a star and be their starting quarterback. It's a game we play for fun. You're starting cavalry, right? So James, Connor was awesome. The first week of the season, he was slightly less awesome week too. But he's been sort of like not quite awesome over the past couple of weeks while you looking at me when you say that I was looking at your computer screen, and are you are you at all concerned about James Connor? And what's your level of confidence starting because this just in this top ten play this week. Falcons allowing the second most fantasy points per carry this season. He's got a fifteen yard reception in all four games. And we've talked about this like, so Mike speculation is that they use Connor a little bit more in the passing game. They have previously so far because the falcons, they allowed the most running back receptions so far this year, they allowed the most in two thousand seventeen the most in two thousand sixteen the most in two thousand fifteen. Dan Quinn has become the head coach of the Atlanta Falcons. You can throw two running backs on a Dan Quinn coach defense, and then you think about this game with so many defensive starters out for the falcons Grady Jarrett also now going to miss this game as well. I mean, it's such a beat up defense. I don't know how you're not starting any Steeler. You can get your hands on, and that includes Vance, McDonald finds himself inside our top ten. This week's define you. I know investment Donald of the stiff arm fame proven himself to be. He's one of those tough physical tight ends that you know who's gonna fight for extra artist. One of the reasons I actually really like he's risen forty, nine or about away. Way back to at rice. Like the kid is ridiculous athlete. We saw on that long, he's getting opportunity. He didn't really. There's one other thing NFL in yards Conti. Pretty good related to Connor. There's a article in the Pittsburgh Tribune review where the offense coordinator James is it Fichtner is I pronounced Lindy. Randy Fichtner I James Connor Randy Fichtner said that he needed to better job of getting Connor carries early in the league because he's a rhythm guy. So that part of it, I don't know what Matthews to stick hiding about Daniel's something in my ear, the second pointedly supporting the Connor thing. But it's interesting that they have sort of made this survey shin, like we're not doing enough early in the game to help get him going artless picked the game as in Pittsburgh, the three and a half point favorites. I got the falcons Matthew yet Steelers three and a half point favorites. Yeah. Give the Steelers fun. I'm gonna take the Steelers. Daniel. I'm gonna take the falcons field and I am disappointed that you think that that Conti joke was funnier than my hamstring recall. Jill. That thing is like Daniels in my ear about he was just like, oh, come on. That's you're saying that's better than the Hampshire's. Like that's one hundred percent better than the handling. Hamstring thing up there as if like you like set it up like, hey, I have a joke to tell you guys funny field. He interrupted us with a breaking news, right? So I'm saying right as compared to you like that, like sometimes humor that you don't expect is actually in there. I just I slid under the radar there. If you're paying attention, you catch it. I didn't. I, I didn't stop the press China whole hotline, and I've got, I got the biggest joke Evert here at comes. Are you ready? For my big. Awesome joke because here comes the big joke area ready. Alright, comes. Baco that was almost as bad as Daniels bad joke right there. Let's get to the Rams. And the Seahawks game is being played in Seattle and Kenyan Drake, I feel pretty bad even asking this question and it seems sort of ridiculous, but maybe people forgot because they played nine days ago eight days ago. Now, how confident are we in Jared gob as a quarterback starter this week. I mean, he's he's taught five. You. Yeah, I've I've miscue before right last week. She's the second best quarterback and fantasy this Seattle pass defense. It don't scare you. They don't scare you at all. No, Earl, Thomas in this game and the the numbers may look good. The best quarterback. They've played this year's case keenum. Yeah. I mean, they haven't played anyone real at all the Sam Bradford, but whatever. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry, Sam, Bradford, yeah, I mean, so Jared Goff who's just absolutely absolutely locked in here. I don't know. I just don't know how you bench Jared, Goff, those weapons against a Seattle defense that it's it is it's the legion of whom Lee. Disagree. I also think that's funny. By the way, it's not mine. Twitter, I'll, yeah, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not claiming that one is mine. Somebody gave that to me on Twitter and I don't know if it's the Twitter persons, it's absolutely not Ricky Sherman. Did he give it to you? It certainly not Richard Sherman. Although I do like Richard Sherman who like for years rally, railed against fantasy football until he could make money at it all in on it. Are you fading Russell Wilson, this speaking of quarterbacks by the way, and if you don't, if you realize that we haven't mentioned someone like, you know, Brandin cooks in the last game juice, miss Schuster because you're starting them, obviously. Have you watched football this year, but Russell Wilson? It's a little bit less obvious. Matthew Russell Wilson has been well, not very Russell Wilson. Like I've got seventeen in my rankings that's after the quarterbacks from last night's game will remove. He started that nineteen this week for me. He's been that bad and this Rams defense is that worrisome to me facing Seattle. So you haven't seventeen. I guess my only question I have for you field as what do you love about Russell Wilson eighteen. He's a handsome, man. There's no question about that. I, I'm with you. Look, he made the hate list this week and it's I don't know that it's necessarily all his fault, but part of the problem here is the pressure that the Rams create, right? They create pressure at the second highest rate. This season win Russell Wilson is under pressure. He's completed just forty, seven percent of his passes. He's got zero touchdowns one interception that offense of line had been brutally running for his life. And yet he hasn't been running for fantasy wise. I mean, like he's got under fifty yards for the season. I mean, even if we did this time when he's running for his life, he's running backwards. Yeah, side line. Recite or not. And I could see the Rams getting to him back there. I mean, two years ago we did this. We did this on the fantasy show on on ESPN plus I'm a company man. And even last year when he started slow, he still had he was still averaging something like thirty something yards, rushing per game. I mean like this year like he's got, he's got less than fifty yards total in four games here. You don't know how healthy Doug Baldwin is to find you. Yeah, I can't imagine starting Russell Wilson this week until you see something under two hundred total yards in two straight games. Well, how about the Seattle running backs? Because we think there be a little bit more clarity surrounding the one running back. We actually kind of trust, right? And that would be Chris Carson who didn't play last week because of the hip issue came in his questionable. Remember we'd said that Chris Carson thought he would be able to play Pekar was actually a little bit less optimistic. They called him gametime decision. He didn't. Now this week did not practice Wednesday, but upgraded limited on Thursday, looking more like Chris Carson will play. And p Carol actually chiming in on the Optima stick side pekair everythi optimistic man says Chris Carson likely to play Matthew. How much confidence do you have at him? Talk about a start. Talk about a flex play because not a great match up. I have tremendous amounts of confidence and Chris Carson as a football player, but I had hero confident on Pete Carroll making the right decision or doing what he says in fairness, this this whole situation with regard penny with Mike, Dave, with using a first round pick on Rashad penny, but then Carson's start. And then Mike Davis comes into and fairness, Pete Carroll not the first time. He's made a questionable move with the running game in fairness and fairness, Ari Seattle, I, I don't have a ton of confidence here. I have as a flex play here. I believe he is the most talented running back on this team and the Rams are allowing the ninth highest yards per carry so far this season that giving a four point five, nine yards per carry. But man, oh man, like it's just it's, it's a little is how lucky do you feel? I will say that. I think if he's active, he's the only one you can consider starting. Yes, I feel inactive. I'm not starting any of them. I would pass on all of them. Doug balls. And you mentioned briefly a little while ago again, it's it's Baldwin. He's getting healthier to find that we think. Yeah. And then he gets added to the Thursday report is limited because of his knee and trying to gauge it's hard because Seattle late practice we. No really, no, you gotta see what he does Friday, but it's just a reminder that this is going to be an ongoing theme for me. I think he's appropriately slot as a flex play this week. Right? I mean, Doug Baldwin. We haven't seen the upside from this passing offense. He's not fully healthy. The Rams could get to Russell Wilson early and often their secondary still banged up. Right? But it's not like he's playing against the chiefs. We have a ton of like you feel there's competence because of the matchup here. Doug balden believe belongs in your flex for this week, right? There's one thing to hang your hat on its, you know, in his first game back, he led the team in targets. Here they carry down plane. He. He lines up in the slot, you know where? So if you're going to tack the ram secondary, that's sort of the place to do it. So I mean, there's Rame secondary was had last week had it's just, you know, think feeling did last week you know slot. So yes. I mean, like right. I've Doug Baldwin. I'm starting them in the leagues that I have in them, but I'm starting him as a wide receiver. Three reflect Rangers seven and a half point favorites on the road in Seattle, taking the Rams still. All the things that would go against normally doing it. But we've seen the Seahawks who soon to put McVay in the hall of fame yet. I have happened already, but you put him in my personal hall of fame? Yes, Daniel, I'm also taking the Rams. We'll be right back after this. If you love football, yelling, television, screens with friends and wearing clothing with someone else's name on it. There's a seat waiting for you at Buffalo Wild Wings where you can enjoy football food and football beverages on our new five dollar game day menu, cheese, burger and fries. Braatz cocktails and pitchers of beer are just five dollars each escape took. And the new five dollar game day menu at Buffalo Wild Wings price and participation vary by location, valid with any other offer, please drink responsibly. Thing. And now a final word from our ZipRecruiter fan of the week, John Jones, this is John Jones. ZipRecruiter smartest fan of the week, getting serious with you for a moment. Always love the ones around you for in this life. That's really all you get. Yes, Matthew even manufacturers of defective hamstrings. Now back to the show. John Jones may have narrated an episode of planet earth. The guy. Like in all, like touch. Try to jam your bad hamstring jokin. Yeah. I wonder who wrote the copy for the where he emailed me yesterday and was like, hey, here's a, here's a new one so that you can use for the last one rather than the one that sent to you anyway, job string. Joel nice job by John Jones. Just a quick reminder. You can go to ZipRecruiter dot com slash fan for your chance to become the ZipRecruiter fan of the week, like John just did so successfully. This week's question. If you could go on a double date with any member from the six zero, who are you choosing and why? The correct answer, of course, as me and my lovely wife, Beth, let's go to the Vikings and the eagles a rematch of last year's NFC championship game in Philadelphia. No, less Kirk. Cousins was ridiculous. Last week, it kinda got lost in the Jared Goff shuffled, but against this Philadelphia defense, which might be a little better. Can you start Kirk cousins week, Matthew? I think he can. I think sometimes you get a little bit too cute here first off, Philadelphia, secondary doesn't scare me. There's a reason you drafted Kirk cousins where he did, do you know quarterback in the NFL has attempted more passes ear than Kirk cousins. Leads the NFL with one hundred eighty nine pass attempts right. I don't know. Kirk cousins had sixty nine point. Nine fantasy points through four weeks. Last season, finished cube, six. He's scored ninety five point six through four weeks. This season. I mean, so he's well ahead of his pace from last year like by almost fifty percents ahead of pace from last year. And that was when he finished his cube six. So I understand it's not a great match up with Cincinnati and that offense of lying. There are real issues there, but especially given the fact that I don't think they're gonna be able to run the ball to find you. The men even have Alvin cooking this game. I'm starting Kirk cousins. If you got him I I am as QB eleven. That's right. They may not have Devin. Cookie hasn't practice this week. Ner members or last game was on Thursday night. And if you saw what happened, what was it? Twenty yards on ten carries not a great, and then he fills well aware where I remember could recite the stats and then he disappeared. After that game. He said, look, I'm not yet one hundred percent. I wanna be one hundred percent as bad as you guys want me to be, but I'm not there yet. We all know we talk about. This frequently sort of the lingering nature of hamstrings and how it's hard to sometimes get to that top speed without continuing to feel it. He's only been working at the side. Mike Zimmer already referred to him as questionable for this week. We were talking before the show about chance will that the Vikings would go ahead and proactively rule him out in advance, but even if they don't, I think his satis is going to be very questionable heading into game time, especially if he's a DP again today. If you don't know today, you may know tomorrow because if teams travel a player does not travel, they must rule that player out upon landing in the visiting city. So we should have clarity on dalvin cook before kickoff on Sunday. Alshon jobs are JJ last week played through a back injury. This Mike Pence. I like you don't want to go against biking defense, who was the best run defense on the NFL last year. Not so much. Matthew confident j. this weekend and along those same lines have what Al sham Jeffrey at the same time. Okay. So am I confident? No. But then you look at the running back situation and you end you sort of look around. And honestly, like last week out of the twenty carries that Philadelphia running backs had j. j. had fifteen of them fifteen for seventy. So I think workload there put them in the Rb to conversation chance that he gets into the end zone. Alshon Jeffery comes into my top twenty as well. You remote. I know a lot of people are worried about the about exurbia roads shadowing and we'll see if that happens. He did not shadow him fulltime in the NFC championship game. The last time these two teams met in that game out on Jeffrey five catches eighty five yards. Two touchdowns now win exurbia roads was on him three for twenty seven. So exhibit road certainly had success against Sean Jeffrey. But my expectations, they move out Sean around a decent amount. He's a low end wide receiver to for me, and he showed up on the report this week on the test issue, not the shoulder. Not the illness that he had last week, but a chest issue didn't practice on Wednesday. It was upgraded to form Thursday, so not really worried about his status, so low and wide receiver for to for me in terms of Sean Jeffrey, especially because the scoring potential here, but I do think look, you're already starting Akers. But Nelson aglow is somebody that I think could have tremendous amount of success here at least ten targets three or four games this season. You think about what the Rams did to the Vikings last year from last week from the slot. Think about my little Cooper Cup and just what he did ultimately nine for one sixty five and three touchdowns from the slot against the Vikings last week, obviously, aggo or top ten NFL in terms of receptions and targets from the slot. This season only golden Tate has more fantasy points from the slot since the start of last year. Nice stat, I, I think it's because of your roads doesn't go into the slot. So I think that's an area where you can attack. I expect big games from both. Zakar. It's and Nelson Adler on sun eagles three and a half point favorites in its game. I got the eagles cover. Have it used to find him? Yeah, at home, both teams are desperate. I know they are, but I'll take the eagles Matthew. The Vikings, Daniel. I think the Vikings are a little bit more desperate. I'm taking the eagles eight last week. I need some redemption here. Let's go to the Cowboys and the Texan. The battle of Texas. And we've got a lot of players with a lot of question marks on the health front, easy Elliott's to falling at one point this week. People were said, he's all banged up Jerry Jones, but saying it. So you know, Joey's actually Jerry talks a lot about his injured player. Sometimes I think Jerry and the rest of team would like because he sort of put that information out there. He is on the injury port because of his knee, but really no indication that he's not gonna play. They're just they have to register. Right. So that's good. I've said this before, sorry, feel that was just going to say, we talked about this on Tuesday show, but just get rod Smith. If you have as a team, just just pick up rod Smith. Go ahead, grab broad Smith, Zeke Elliott. Otherwise you don't mess around with this Cowboys roster. They're bad. But there are some question Mark specifically in Houston on the health fronts. Defunct moments ago. Bill O'Brien actually said that Lamar Miller. Is a game time decision for Sunday. Well, you know, Lamar Miller has been beat up a lot because he's been the running back workhorse. So I think they've had a couple of guys who've come into each game gametime decision. So stay tuned for that. They have the advantage of being at home. They can wait until the last minute for Lamar Miller. You've also got will fuller with a hamstring issue left the game early last week and being limited throughout the wait. Now we'll fuller did speak to the media yesterday and he basically presented, but he was doing well. And if he continued on that track, he fully expected to play this week just that the up and down of a hamstring. So I will for his played through this and I like his chances. But again, that will probably come down to game arts. Let's keep it on will fuller if he does not play Matthew to Lamar Miller second. But KiKi Cutie had eleven catches last week if willful or sits. How high does his value volt. Easily top twenty five. I mean, you know what I mean? That's where I think I would put him there. I- KiKi kooky KiKi. Cutie can play. Obviously. I mean, you see there on your screen for those watching on Twitter fifteen targets last week, eleven receptions. He was. He was nothing short of spent. Tasks led the team in both catches and targets in the second half of last week's game here. So we'll fuller were out in a game in which I think the Texans will be able to throw on Dallas. I think they're gonna struggle to run the ball. So I mean, like I want Lamar Miller nowhere near my lineup this week, whether active or not, because I think they're going to really struggle to run the ball. So you know, I think the Dallas t. point defense by the way is a sneaky play this week defense, Dallas defense is play off. It's of line and bad offense of line and Houston to Shawn Watson, holding the ball too long. I mean, even admitted that right. I mean, he's come out and said, like, some of these acts are on me. So the offensive line is playing playing bad. The Cowboys defensive. Line which is which is really been getting after it getting best defensive player in football right now. Yeah, I, I mean, so I'm just saying, I think if you're looking for a stream defense, I do think the Cowboys are sneaky play this week. All right. So Lamar Miller sits out this game. Let's just imagine that pathetically Alfred blue becomes what in your mind bath, you. Running back thirty something so like you're super interested in what you're saying? No. I mean, the argument for offer blue is, does he fall into the end zone and just volume on him? I'm not particularly excited about him. Cowboys top twelve in the NFL in terms of rushing defense, oh far this year. I mean, yeah, he'd be very low inflex play for me more probably running back for not somebody that I'm trying to rush the waiver wire to get. It's it's it'd be an uninspiring start. Okay. In the battle of Texas, the Texans are three and a half point favorite at home Sunday night game. Remember that as well. I'll take the Cowboys. How about used to find. I'm going to take the Texans taking the Texans as well. Matthew berry taking the Cowboys kills me because I don't want to take the Cowboys getting tickets. Online could be far too complicated with hundreds of sites, varying levels of reliability. It's hard to know who to trust. 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That's promo code f, f, f for twenty dollars off your first seatgeek purchase life's events. We have that tickets. All right, mood along to the cardinals and Stefan years. Beloved forty Niners on the injury front, skipping the dolphins being Jay on the same sheet and not mean to pull that down. Going back to the dolphin to the bangles sheet year. That means just kidding. Matthew dolphins hand the Bengals we've got some question marks in the Cincinnati in the Cincinnati backfield's to find because of injuries. Joe mixing and Giovanni Bernard both banged up right now. Yeah, I think people may not realize because it was late in the game last week, but Giovanni Bernard actually exited the game early with a knee injury and has not practice. Catherine tro covers angles for us says he's still working off to the side again today and that she doesn't expect him to play. So the interesting thing to me, here's here's Joe mixon coming back from arthroscopic surgery been hearing a lot of good things about how he looks in practice cutting sharply, doing all these making. All these nice moves really look like his knees, not bothering him at all, but still the pounding of a full workload during a game. When you're first came back after surgery, it's a little bit concerning because you really want this guy to stay healthy across the full season. So I expected Joe makes him back in expected them to sort of ease it off by sharing. Giovanni Bernard, that may not be an option. All right. Well, that's which would make him like a top ten play this week. You'll mix. I mean, maybe you'll see some Mark Walton in there, but it would be the Joe mix and show Joe mixon I think was her fourth in total touches? Yeah, fourth and touches and third in yards from scrimmage, the first two weeks when he was nine. He's still only been limited in practice. He's not fully practicing. So you know, we're remember, dalvin cook. They let him. I'm just saying this is sort of philosophical thing. I agree with you as far as if he's there and Giovanni Bernard is not he. He moves up and he's a top play, but I'm little worried about what that means going for. Let's get to the other running back to major question Mark right now, which is Kenyan Drake met you railed autumn on Thursdays podcast. I'm assuming that means you obviously cannot play. I don't think you can. I. What? What have you seen from Kenyan Drake gives you confidence in playing him this week? The only thing that I would say would be people hanging onto twenty seventeen for too long, and they're like, yeah, but he was awesome last year. It was awesome. Lusters for one half of the season is Everett three point, two yards per carry. Doubled down on him continuing, but carries with Frank core or share with Frank or. Yeah. I mean, it's the the past two weeks. This concern he's got eight carries for six yards. Eight carries for six yards is a bad is about half. That's what he's done in the last two games. I got. I got you aided Harris for her six yards where you at Kenyon. Drake, supporter, Landay. I wanna hear from you ten this three times podcast with that move you at moving along here. Thank you moving along here to to the Bengals because there are couple of question marks. I don't know why people were debating this, but if you have Taylor board crank up baby, the volume is way too good. He's a good player. You should have him in your lineup. But the question Mark is this. We talked about this on the podcast earlier this week, Andy, Dalton, does he belong as streaming option this week? Be? I think so. I mean, he's a QB to streaming option for me. Look, this is not a. This isn't as good a matchup as you might think, dolphins, believe it or not lead the NFL got nine interceptions so far this season in the two weeks with Joe mix, active the season for her eight passing the two weeks without mixing six hundred eighty nine. They go more run heavy when they've got Joe mixing in there. And so. You know my feeling is that the sort of slow down the game here. Opponents of passing just fifty eight percent of the time against the dolphins season. That's fourth lows in the NFL. I just don't know that the volume is going to be there. Having said that as defined it says, no, Giovanni Bernard, and maybe they wanna limit workload mixing coming back a little bit. So it gives you a little bit of optimism here, and I do think Dalton's playing well, he comes in. It's QB thirteen for me. As we start the show obviously out for the year, which should mean CJ use Oma who last year I describe as having feet for hands step into a more prominent role. I think you know how I feel about that at least going into this weekend time. Now the tight end position is such a brutal so hard so hard. So just, you know, if you're looking for a tight into guy and Hayden Hearst is not available in your league. That's who I want a going forward, but could be okay this week it's worth noting because people are asking about him versus Tyler Kroft. He outs napped him forty, seven to seventeen last week and outplayed him twenty six to four in terms of routes run. He's the guy you want not Tyler. Across angles are six and a half point favorites. I'll take them to cover that spread von. Yeah, same Daniel. Yeah, I am. I think I'm gonna do the same thing. I'm gonna Bengals snafu. Angles are six and a half. You magic doing this every night when Beth. Like what? What do you want to go to. The kids all of them before you get to me. Yeah. Taking the Bengals, but you know what I'm first place in pigskin pick him. 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Let's go out to the NFC west and talk about the cardinals and the forty Niners to find you map Breda has been banged up and it's not just that injure talked about last week. Like he seems to be limited again this week right now this his shoulders taken a bit of a beating may member. It's the shoulder. That he sprained in the preseason that caused him than sit out for the remainder of the preseason until week. One certainly is taking a lot of contact in his utilization, but limited and practices week. I still believe that he's going to play just worth noting that he's a little bit hampered meth, you think actually that there could be some value in Alfred Morris, though this week hit both. I mean, certainly, if breed is banged up, but you think about Alfred Morris here who believe it or not, despite all the success that might Brita has had. Alfred Morris still holds a ninety, six red zone edge and a six, three goal to go edge and carries over Matt breed of the season. When they getting close, they've been given it to him cardinals give up the most rushing touchdowns in the NFL they've been run on thirty five times per game. This season that is the most in the NFL and so Morris, who gets a match up here against a bottom, ten defense in terms of yards per carry after first contact, which is an area where he excels in. I just think he's kind of a sneaky. If you're if you're a desperate running back, you need it. And you're looking for a desperate running back play or a, you know, cheap, DFS ops. And I do think there's a decent chance offered Moore's falls in the end zone this week. All right. Larry FitzGerald is the only Zona cardinal player. Listen, we're starting David Johnson. We like to see more out of him but has actually been pretty good sixteen points and three out of four game. So far this season, Larry FitzGerald has had as a catch and I believe two hundred and fourteenth straight games. He has Mr. reliable in the NFL and yet to him, I can't even fathom starting him. It's really sad how the media fallen and he is it's it's a double whammy for him because it's not just the situation of their offense. It's also that he's hindered by a hamstring, which apparently is more significant than FitzGerald with ever let on, but it's clearly limiting him. He's obviously uncomfortable with it, but he's trying to push through just to provide some sort spark to the team. I don't know how you can really trust him in your fantasy roster right now. It all looks so good in week. One he had seven catches. That's pretty fits Esq. He has eight catches since that time. George KENDALL. In a titan times when there are so fear liable options, George Kittles really emerged as an upside player regardless whose a quarterback for the San Francisco forty Niners, and I know that sometimes things out a little bit anecdotal. But as many noted last week, George Cantelmo been playing with third for six years now. Will we talk about like I don't know why we can highlight the trust of somebody like Tom Brady and Julian element and then discount it when it CJ Beathard George kid? Absolutely. It's a factor in CJ Beathard himself getting banged up there George kettles when the few healthy passengers. There's not many left right now for San Francisco, four and a half point favorites. I will take in this game the forty Niners Matthew, who'd he got. To find who do you got? I got the forty Niners Daniel Hayat I'm taking the cardinals. All right, man. I'm with Daniel agree, sneak cover. I think they cover. I think forty Niners blow them out the Broncos, go to New York to play the jets, and we've got some injuries took place in practice this week. Specifically, Quincy and noone was to find you still trying to find out what happened at practice on Thursday so much that research meaning who covers team for us as he really needs to find out this afternoon. Like Quinton, Numa listed on the report with a hip injury. Severity is not apparent to us as of yet watch which means Twitter, obviously all updated tomorrow, but certainly raise your eyebrows. So yeah, yesterday I in the in this love league, I traded on a ferris of Eric Braun. She needed a tight end actually that worked out well for her or Quincy Nwe and essence. Receiver we'll we'll see. I mean, I just love his target. Sure. I have gronk in that league. So obviously I had some tied in depth to handle also picked up eight and Hearst in that way. I to saying we'll see what happens. All right. Let's get actions. Emma running backs then because we talked about them earlier on this week's to find you feels like Philip Lindsay is clear cut back here, but we do believe there's still value for Royce Freeman, Matthew, despite him being less productive than Philip of filled the on a per carry basis. He has found the end zone in three out of four game so far this year, yeah. And by the way he he has three goal to go Russia's. Lindsey only has one thing about the jets with a lot of touchdown, rush on thirty, three percent of gold scares a season that's more than the NFL league average. So if they getting closer giving it to him, head coach van head coach Vance, Joseph saying, coming out and saying, hey, we need to get Royce Freeman more touches. We'll see if it actually happens. I have Philip, Lindsey, ranked higher than Royce Freeman, but you know, on the road traveling on a short week, obviously the games. In New York, Denver played on Monday night traveling on a short week. If you're maybe they lean on the run game a little bit more on the road. And so just an increase in touches for Freeman, puts him squarely on the flex right? Or because obviously he has a very good chance to score three touchdowns in three games. As you know, beacon on the consecutive games too. By the way, it's not like he had one big game like he has had a rushing touchdown in three consecutive games speaking to be on the flex Reiter. That's where Mary Thomas lands now sixty eight yards for reading. How concerned are you him Matthew? It's been really, really slow out of the gates for him. Yeah, awful. I mean, if you want to Bank on anything, it's sort of we talked about this with my clay earlier in the week in terms of like he's still running a ton of routes. He's still playing a ton of snaps if case keenum makes it professional NFL throw at the end of that game on Monday night and he walked into the end zone as he should have for touchdown. Maybe the narrative onto Mary's Thomases a little bit different. But so far it's been unimpressive. I admit thirty one this week. I don't have a ton of confidence is yet have game with more than sixty five yards. This season is average is seven point five yards per catch one hundred five yards in his last three weeks combined. It's not a, it's not a gimme match. By the way, either the corners for New York are pretty good, especially on the perimeter which is where Thomas plays the majority of snaps, yes, are half point favorite. We'll take the Broncos to pull the quote unquote upset here. How about used to find broadcasts, Matthew, I will take the Broncos you Daniel. Broncos we go to raiders in Los Angeles against the chargers. And you know, we talked about this earlier in the week with the Mark. Hooper basically comes down to this. How lucky do you feel like I'm not going to tell you that you should play Mark Cooper with the expectations going to score twenty five points or five points because we know it could be somewhere in between just pull out the crystal ball for a second. Mattie, how lucky do you feel relative to the defense? He is going to face this week. So so I mean, I ranked ranked him at twenty eight. So I haven't as wide receiver three this week. Mike lay does believe Casey Hayward will shower sh shadow him. Probably not shower. He'll shadow him this week. Hayward is a good player for the chargers. The chargers defense has not been as stingy so far this year expected it to be part of that might be the judge been out in practical. It's been a little bit. They're not generating the pressure that we expected them to. For me. The concern here is the inconsistency three or four catches in seven. I was past nine games here and one of the reasons I was so high on Amari Cooper was because I thought volume would be his king in that the inconsistencies would be masked by just insane amounts of all. Yeah, but at I hate to say this Jared, cook spin, good this year. Yes. I mean this week. Absolutely. He's a top, but I'm not even talk in fantasy. I'm just talking pure NFL. The guy has played well, he's and Jordy. Nelson has had more left in the tank candidly. I thought he would be marshawn Lynch. Why did like coming in the season was he was on the preseason loveless has been even better than I expected. So the fact that the raiders have cobbled together more offensive weapons than I think we thought they would or at least I'll cop to it for myself. They've cobbled together more offense of weapons than I thought they would in terms of my own preseason thoughts on Amari Cooper. I still ultimately think Amari Cooper winds up in the top twenty based on. Volume, but this week going against the charges and Casey, Hayward, he's merely a wide receiver. Three for me. It's Philip rivers, weekly started stop the like, hey, Jesse fit in against the raiders defense obviously can be thrown against, but like should we have been the top ten every single week, the Marlins rivers rivers? Yeah. I think borderline top ten every single week. He's a, he's a talented quarterback with talented pass catcher and not as good a defense as you might have thought raiders have allowed multiple touch on passes in over fifty, five percent of the games since the middle of last year. Seventh highest during that stretch. There's only three quarterbacks in the NFL with three different games this year of two hundred fifty passing yards and three plus touch passing. Touchdowns Ryan Fitzpatrick, Pasha, Mahomes and Philip rivers. I mean, we know how good fits magic and Mahomes have been. Rivers has been just as good here. So I haven't Scooby seven this week, but I think he's a borderline top ten play the for the rest. I remember division of playing the chiefs. Again, you have the raiders twice the Broncos Broncos defense is good, but not necessarily dominant like I don't. I don't hate his schedule going forward in my preseason hundred facts column and also who's also in the love hate. I just I noticed how like over the last six years Filbert who never gets any respect has finished on average five points better than his ADP. And this year his ADP was QB fifteen. So essence like, do we think he's like a borderline top ten play? Yeah, we do. That's what I thought he was going to be coming into the season. I think I had him at twelve and my preseason ranks like, yeah, I mean earlier this week we talked about Mike Williams and being the kind of guy that you just don't know what you're going to get, but he is a high upside flex play because he has scored double digit points and three of his four games. The problem is he had one catch last week, so Doug throw. What I would say. If you're looking for Mike Williams, you're hoping for the end zone. This game is being played in Los Angeles. The chargers are five and half way favorite. I'm going with the raiders to cover, and here's why the chargers never make life. Easy on themselves. They just don't do it so thick of the raiders to cover here. How about you? Daniel, I'm taking the chargers. Okay. How about the chargers? Melvin Gordon is running like a man, and I think that that's who they end up leaning on. I'm going with the chargers few last one for you or next one for US five and a half. I think the chargers win this game, but I have the raiders covering aren't going as so unite feel the same way. Then the titans are traveling to buffalo to take on the bills. The are the are you flexing Dion Lewis? Because we know you can't flex Derrick Henry anymore, at least not yet. No. Yeah, I haven't the flex play, you know. I mean, I was encouraged by his usage in the passing game last week. Nine for sixty six Heald's fifty three, seven snap edge over Henry on third downs this season and that you're gonna need that because I don't know how much moving the ball. You know, in other other spaces because I'm down in accord Avis in this game here. So I think just his involvement in the passing game keeps his his floor relatively high issue, like flex high ish. Yeah, I think so. Plus mariota playing better, you know? And and so I think that helps Dion Lewis actually in the passing game component, core Davis, Matthew just mentioned a little bit down. We still have him in the flex conversation, but don't forget that he's going to likely draw Davis, white shadow white. Does the 2017 first round pick for the bills who has been remarkable. He's our best player right now. I don't think it's close in my mind. That could mean more opportunity for Taylor and I'm not advocated that you start tabling Taylor, but I am considering are suggestion. You keep them in mind as possible waiver add, you've got a bench spot available right now. I take a flyer on table on Taylor who had seven catches last week. He made the waiver wire com. Let's see whether or not he has another hot week this week for the titans table pay. One Taylor has a twenty two point six. Six percent target share on the titans over the last two weeks with no regard. Matthew there, and obviously Laney Walker out for the year, that is the same range as guys like tyreek hill. Mike Evans Emmanuel Sanders to give you an idea of what that twenty two percent target share is. And again, as with Corey Davis shadowing being shadowed by today's white, the nice game for Taylor that call just I'll give you a heads up here. So on sunny NFL countdown and fantasy football. Now we do our longshot. Our fantasy longshot Taylor is mind. I've already submitted. That's what I'm not. I'm not stealing from field. I'm just merely saying feeling, I think alike on Taiwan Taylor this week. So far worth noting Corey, the hate list. We just to give you one kind of stat since since the beginning of last year, the bills have allowed the third fewest deep completions that third fewest touchdowns in the ninth lowest completion percentage. On on the side of that today. White spends most time. Okay. Got it. My way the Sean McCoy has not square. Rushing touchdown in five streak games. He's got twenty nine touches in his three games. These played in so far this season. We've got him ranked as a low end flex play. If he proves us wrong, that would mean that the Buffalo Bills have an about face authencity. They played one good game this season. There are three and a half point underdogs I will take the titans on the road to continue the good times. Mattie guy. I will. Blinds what's REM. We're gonna have three and a half. Oh yeah. Tighten up tighten up. Give me the titans by the way, the titans defense still out there in a tunnel leagues that really good streams even as we speak. Yeah, I'll take the titans. No, I I really wanna take the bills because it's just it's a trap if feels like it's a trap game, you get three and a half at home. The bills could surprise you. All right. I'm going to. I'm gonna take the bills, bills move along to our last couple of games. I one Washington Redskins at New Orleans or spread squirrel, Washington New Orleans. Matthew be at this age to room on his beloved Redskins and hang out with this kid fun. Always put. It could be a fun time. It could be a miserable. I will because I went to. New Orleans. I'm going to go see my kid, so that'll be a lot of fun. There's a very good chance drew Brees re breaks the record in this game, five hundred passing touchdowns on the radar as is the passing yards record for breeze. It's two hundred one yards. Wrecked, two hundred one yards for him to surpass Peyton Manning for the most ever by drew Brees. Congratulations. Any quarterback. So that would be cool to see. Last time I traveled from Monday night game where the Redskins played. It was the Michael Vick six touched on game when they played Philadelphia on Monday night. Was that the that you had Vic rated number one overall? All right. Let's keep things moving here. This game. There are sort of two major talking points. The first one is the value in diff- the value diverse. We, Chris Thompson, and Adrian Peterson, we know both of them have had productive moment so far this season, but it's a game, we think skews more towards Chris Peters, Chris Thompson bean involved, I think so the passing game Norrland's. It's gonna score plenty of points. I think that's Chris Thompson's gonna be most useful. That's who I like. Obviously have have big differential between the two, the saints, the saints struggle with pass, catching running, backs. They have, they've, they've played well against. Rushing, you know, whatever you wanna call it. The third best, rushing defense in the NFL so far. So where where you can attack them is is you know with their linebackers. And so yeah, I think you see a lot of Chris Thompson here. All right. We talked about this earlier this week. Mark Ingram returns to the field for the saints after a four game suspension. We saw last night would element that you know, in some cases, the player kinda just cranks right back up and gets close to a full role played quite a bit. It's snaps for Mark Ingram. We all we had this conversation. Let me just give you the summary of what we said earlier on in the week define has a bit more confidence Matthews a little bit less confidence. I'm somewhere in the middle. None of us have any idea how much more kingdom is going to play if he gets fourteen touches than we think we'd all Reagan's top twenty. But if he goes out there has six touches that entire for us to imagine you utilizing him in your lineup. It's difficult one. If you're risk averse and you don't want to deal with the possibility of him getting six touches for thirty two yards. Then you've been dealing with somebody you've been utilizing. Somebody else for the past four weeks, keep it rolling there. We don't know for sure what I think is more pertinent storyline with Mark Ingram is not what happens on Monday night, but whether he can come back and become a fifteen back for the rest of the season because the saints, they actually sustain two of them last year with him and Alvin Kamara this game six and a half point spread for the saints in New Orleans. Monday night football juice, lead energy there. I'll take the saints to cover. Sorry, Matthew gimme the Redskins hail the Redskins hail victory in the Superdome. You're taking a saints. Daniel. Yeah, I'm also taking the saints. Let's bring it on home of animals. We'll show you spring you by losing by less than six and a half points. We'll show you guys. Let's bring it on home here to the giants. And the Panthers game is in Caroline. Of course, there are coming off of their by sterling shepherd at assist. Remove this week's to find that sounds painful to me is going to be good. Hopefully it's less painful because he got to remove, got you know. So very productive with that, SIS? Yeah. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. I mean, he did he, you know? So if he doesn't do anything this week, you'll know like gotta get the back, but you know, he was back to full practice on Thursday, so obviously was not something that's significantly compromised in Branly time out, Wednesday practice, fully Thursday. So no limitation. That's good news there and easy. Basically, automatic start Matthew because again, Evan Ingram out, certainly shepherd had seven. I'm sorry, ten catches on ten targets last week. Yeah, the volume was certainly they're having said that Carolina has yet to allow a slot touchdown this season. They don't target the slot of Thanh against them. So it'll be interesting to see how this plays. I don't know that he's an automatic start. I haven't as a wide receiver, four with upside here who can't got him wide in that wide receiver. Thirty range ish right there. So the sisters, something that bothered me, the fact that he came back practice will rise up in my ranks. When I do updates today, swimming, he goes through practice today, but I don't know that he's an automatic start. I think he's more wide receiver. Three territory are Hebel Christian McCaffrey. Free his volume coming off the bye. I mean, I don't really have to say here like any. Yeah, it's not gonna change. We've been the more pertinent question here on the Carolina offense is Devin. Funchess player this defiant recently orchestrated a trade around Matthew. You have them just outside your top thirty little bit less confident funches maybe a match up thing that his volume. What's the concern there if there are any? Well, it's a couple, so funchess made the hate list this week. And so just to be clear just to be clear here that the way we're doing love hate this year is I'm taking Mike clays or I'm just taking the ESPN projections which which generated by Claes numbers and everything. And if he's a love, I'm protecting him to to meet or exceed. If he's a, if he's a hate, I'm expecting to be under. Got projection on Devin. Funchess's eleven point one. So I'm taking the under on eleven point. One fantasy points for Devin. Funchess and look. I expect as journalists Jenkins shadows, Devin, funchess, and fairly successful at it for all the struggles with the giants have had this year. They actually have the fourth best read. Zone defenses season seventy seven percent of funchess's career touchdowns have come in the red zone. And so that's where he really makes his money here. I think it'll be, you know, five for sixty whatever fought, you know, five fifty, five kind of thing for for fifty five. But you know, I think your banking on on a touchdown here with Devin. Funchess on. I'm not convinced he get it here. I think Jenkins has a pretty good game against Devon funchess. All right, one less thing to note about this game. People may have seen Greg. Greg Olsen back and breaks for the first time, essentially targeting a week, six returns of you. Wanna be sneaky. You might all those troubles at tight end. You may wanna go grab Greg Olsen. People have dropped nearly see if he's out there for some reason. All right. Interesting name to note on the waiver wire. We are backed by the way on Sunday morning, fantasy football now, let's pick this game. Yeah, just getting into the Panthers six point favorites. I still got him Daniel. I'm gonna take the Panthers as well panther up same. These aren't a clean sweep for the Panthers all the way round. Some programming notes I should start here. Matthew has is the face she'll coming out today. No, but the love hate the week. Five love hate week. Five preview show is up now featuring Tedy Bruschi Niane secret, squirrel, so on plus check that out to find your hazard injury, blog coming out on Saturday. At some point during the day, most comprehensive injury updates you could find on Sunday finished now for life to one. PM Sadie said over on NFL alive today, injury news sometime between one thirty three. We have fantasy football now ten to one on Sunday. In the meantime, follows defined. You be eighty seven on Instagram, so fine. You underscore ESPN on Twitter. He's Matthew berry team are everywhere set for the fantasy life at peaches. At Matthew berry, I'm feel dates will talk to you on Monday. Six. You did. Matthew. You guys go ahead. Give me for being on sportscenter for forty, five seconds. Because I. Terrible at Nash tagging improv. Feel feel. Fairy convert. Daniel. Fantasy. Then. Worth noting here, secret squirrel that the people have spoken yards for Kante gets fifty six percent of the vote Daniels hamstring thing. It's just merely forty percent forty, four percent. When the question was asked, the funnier joke is so the answer's yards per Conti. There you go. Interesting. Yeah, absolutely. You lost. You lost the Twitter poll, I think knows not is the iron fist. I'm gonna retire. I'm gonna retire. The hamstring joke. Now we're gonna go out on top and it will not return.

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10/11: Start or Sit (AFC), Rest of Season Outlooks (Fantasy Football Podcast)

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10/11: Start or Sit (AFC), Rest of Season Outlooks (Fantasy Football Podcast)

"Fantasy football today from CBS sports. Email us at fantasy football CBS. I dot com. Get your lineup, said, get time I stored or sit. Here. So. Got a lot of hold games this week. Starter eight games. They believe that e blooded gate for tomorrow show everybody Jamie today. Out of as Dave Richard and he Cummings. I got a little upset about something fellows. I love the London games, but I really like when they're at nine in the morning Easter instead of one. It's just like another game is at one o'clock. Give me a nine AM. I think you actually get that home on check my schedule. Good, good. Check it out my place mat. We talked about my placement, so flash schedule, we have not. Dave looks like Andy Reid like he's got this year. Last year we got to the end of the season and it was like three little crumbs. Dave was holding together with like all sorts of marinara stains on it. We've got London games in consecutive weeks, and I believe at least one of the next two are those early morning games that you speak of, which are amazing because then yes, tennis on for over twelve hours of the morning game. I love it out of your fan of mornings general. The mornings are fine. We've got wait way too much stuff going on on a Sunday morning further to be a football game happening at the same time. The next two weeks weeks, six weeks, seven and eight Tennessee and the chargers eagles and the Jaguars nine thirty AM eastern faddem your wishes granted. All right, how 'bout that, hey, listen, great app for you. The Google assistant. We talk about it all the time of fantasy. Football actually does a lot more than just fantasy football. It's very small part of why the Google assistance. Awesome. And. All season long, CBS sports, delivering the best fantasy football advice directly through the Google assistant, you'll be able to compare players and get insights into insights. Excuse me into who to start, sit at and drop, and we will turn to Dave and heath later to find out how this works. We will give it a little Google assistant demo as we discuss genus Winston and Ben Rothlisberger. All right. So we got those eight games coming up, I twenty minutes or so we'll be more general fantasy stuff. Wanna read a lot of emails. Here's a segment called eight emails in four minutes. Here we go from David subject Deontay Forman dear Bros. do you think the foreman will be active in week? Seven. This is such an ultimate stash considering the running back situation and Houston such a lottery ticket to lead your team to the championship. Why aren't you talking more about the auntie Forman? I think if he wasn't going back from the achilles injury, we'd be talking about. Him a lot more. We just don't know what he's going to look like. I think the Texans don't know what he's going to look like. And by the way, in case you haven't noticed the Texans haven't exactly been vaxgen of rushing this year. Their offense of line is really bad at run blocking. They're slightly better at pass blocking. They're bad at both, and I'm not sure what you're going to get out of Forman. Yeah, I think they're like the sentiment ear from David is right. This is a lottery ticket, but if lottery tickets were guaranteed to hit, then they wouldn't be lottery tickets. Like there is a lot of risk with Deontay, Forman risk number one that he's not the same running back. We saw last year and we've really not seen running backs, come back from Killys, tears, and have success in the NFL football players in general, a couple of defensive players last year, one of the dolphins edge rushers or was Libya Vernon was a burner wake. One of the two of them had the akilah. If you really wanna know earning, but we've not seen running backs do this yet, and the Texans have one of the worst offensive lines and football. So yes, he should be stashed okay. Remember eighty miles in four minutes. So thank he should be stab at one Email in six minutes. The day format is on the pup list. Not I are. So he is eligible to come back after six weeks, wake as the one coming back from the achilles Keenan in Los Angeles says, dear Kristen, lake, Alexander and liberty. Those rebels, should I try to trade? Should I try and trade for James, Connor in the off chance that Lebanon bell gets traded to Philadelphia or another contender in need of a running back. It depends on what you have to give up to get him if it costs too much too many good players or even one really good player, then forget it. Not worth, you know, it'd be better for eighty males in four minutes. If these will start sick questions where we could answer them with one word, then we could get through twelve emails like we're getting into like the theory of what the Steelers are going to do with well, and I feel like each E-mail should get about thirty seconds. I think we just hit it on this one. Okay. So who do you like better recipes? Connor Abell. I have bell trade value higher than Conner's. I'd take Connor. Okay. Matt says you guys kept giving a stat over the summer saying, James Winston led the league and something, and I can't remember what I just picked him up and I'm starting him this week. So I'd love to know what James Winston led the league in last year in the games that he started and finished. He was on pace to lead the league in passing yards nearly five thousand yards day ago. I was gonna say he led the league in finger eating memes. Finger eating memes. Remember the WWW though. I don't remember that at all. Google eating a w. Okay. From Bill dear Peter Klatt quagmire Joe in Cleveland, I need to sit one in a standard scoring league. Aaron Jones, Shawn McCoy, or Corey. Clement. I think I'm sitting McCoy. Are we sure he's going to get the same type of workload that he got last week that's typically the workload that bills running back yet in victories out only. This is gonna be a victory for sitting Aaron Jones, eat it. You're not very excited about Aaron Jones. What might McCarthy's not very excited about Aaron Jones? I know like we're worried about is living or is Shawn McCoy gonna get the same workload that he got last week is Aaron Jones going to get more work than he's ever. Got, okay. I'd be fine with him on thirteen touches. So this is a really weird me. Eating. You didn't see that. It's really weird. I hate it. This is from Richard Hong in California, dear sandy, Clayton, oral infra. No, those are baseball players. Dodgers pitcher specifically, dodgers pitchers is Kyle use chick in Rb to this week. I can see him getting a dozen targets in the passing game, and maybe six carries, am I crazy Kyle us p p r flex. I don't think he's getting secures. I don't think he's getting a dozen targets. Now, here's a good Email from will that said it weren't good. They were. You guys might want to quote unquote temper expectations for golf at Denver this week supposed to be in the mid twenties with snow during the game on Sunday. I doubt he has much experience in such conditions. Also, we know Saint Louis was the greatest show on earth. What do you think of the greatest show on surf for the Los Angeles Rams. Yeah, that's not bad. I agree with the golf thing, even if his receivers are healthy, he's never in his life, played football in these conditions. Sure. He's so eighth grade. He went on a trip. Action. They didn't Lake Tahoe. It was really cool. Twelve, maybe ten, then it probably Pac twelve. I'm not sure the pack something teams are in the league. There's twelve now. I am a little bit concerned and the only the only real concern for him coming out of college was what. Number. There's really good. It's got tiny little as hands. So would you start ally or Wentz over Goff because this is actually and I looked at the weather like it's going to be freaking cold. Denver I, this is really important. So would you start ally or went over Goff as of now, I've went and Eli, head of Gough. Part of that is not because of the weather, it's because of the health of his receivers. It looks like those guys are going to have a chance to play. I have a hard time sitting him. I don't even with the weather being what it is. I hate benching guys for weather unless it is such obvious conditions that it's going to be detrimental to the entire game. I'm not sure I would if I was going to use whether as an excuse in the history on whether it's pretty spotty, I'm not sure. Eli and wince would be the guys that I'd be saying, oh, let's use them because of the weather say we can be a monsoon in New York tonight. All right. That's a good point. We can revisit tomorrow, but I'm just saying for the people that have to make that decision tonight. Yeah. Ask me tomorrow if they're starting over and I'll tell you for sure. I, this is Jeremy, dear, Jack Frank, Jackie, Frank, Susan, and Morty that what I don't think I know the bills defense has been impressive and fantasy the last three weeks. Why are you guys so low on the bills. S. t. so one of the things that I do when I track a DSP and consider starting them is I see how many fantasy points a team has allowed to opposing DSP's Houston. This year has only allowed double digit fancy points to a t. once it was last week and it was ten points. So the bare minimum and I just think the Texans are going to put up a good number, not the ball over a ton. I think you can do better than buffalo this week. Okay, right. I'm moving them up up up up up eighteenth eighteen. Moves if I really from Aaron till Adam, if he grunts at the beginning of the regulators music one more time, I will have to stop listening to the show. So gross. I'm a little said that you do the regulators without me doing my yelling well, then do do work harder on Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursdays, I guess. So he's the show come on the show for the last five minutes days. So everybody knows say I am right outside the podcast on Wednesdays, watching film and writing players for the start, sit sleepers risks column. Yeah, I need that our. I'm sorry, it's all good quick observation for you. If you're desperate for a wide receiver, please consider the probably very under own coats, wide receivers. Yes. Chesa Rogers is ten percent on Ryan grant is fourteen percent on Zach. Pesca is eight percent on the jets. Allow the eighth most fantasy points wide receivers. They've allowed one hundred yard receiver in four or five games. Seven wide receivers have seventy or more yards against the jets and five of those seven had seven or more catches a lot of numbers there, but just to sum it up the jets. Against receivers, and they could be down to Cornerbacks there, obviously down Johnson and BUSTER screen is a concussion. So these guys are so under own. If you need a wide receiver, please look at the Rogers. Their slot guy and luck is looking for them all the time. He's got a lot of targets over the last two games. I think he's going to have another good game this week. He is a borderline number two wide receiver. This week we are analyzing this game and just a few moments, right? Yeah, I'll save my thoughts for them. Okay. Okay. Good. Good. So I want to share a little story. Dave knows the story Haith tell you, Dave. They're very nice thing few weeks ago and he said, I wanna get your kids something at what should I get him. I don't worry about you have to get him anything to get himself. I said, you know what? He's got a lot of Miami hurricane stuff. He's got a Knicks shirt was last name on the back. Doesn't have any giants stuff. Get them giants onesie. So. I get a package a couple of weeks ago like ten days ago and. Oh, I know what this is. I opened it up all this giants like blue and red giants, LaGuardia, and it's like, it's huge. What did he get him a blanket or something like that? No, Dave got me a giants woodsy Ed. It's tremendous edit fits me perfectly. And today's the big game. And if the giants win today, we're gonna get. I play. We're going to be out. I, we're gonna win the division sanding us. I take off the headset to reveal, oh my gosh. Animas putting it on. He's had it on. No one see, this is the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen. The tags are still on. He's not going to keep it. He's just using it as a proper, ending it back. It's a little big on you. It's big. It looks like you've got to like my size belly. Well. Size big over here, I suppose. But it's a ones that you know we need room for spitting up and stuff like that. You must absolutely love that thing. It's so funny I was cracking up and thank and then Dave did send a baby sized ones as well. So let's see that onesie. It's a little big actually. I think we're gonna have to wait 'til next football season to throw you love the ones I got you so much that the tags are still on tax. I haven't left the house yet. So you're going to. And that if if the baby ones fits in, which I don't think it will. I will consider a Halloween duet costume of giants. Onesies you're with. What are you planning on doing outside of the house with the baby on Halloween trick or treating we'll walk. We'll go with his cousin print was sandy. We'll go, you know, he's got little cousins, go trick or treating. Maybe we'll throw them. The people say, oh, it's so nice that you took your little brother out for trick or treating young man take to take two little fun size candy news notes by the way, which doesn't like steal some candy from their kids. Now, I look forward to that day. My nine year old asked me this morning, are we going to look at the calendar? He's a, he's a very anal kid when it comes to dates and times and things like that. And he says, halloween's on a Wednesday, I was like, so I was hoping it would be on a weekend or we're going to celebrate it on Wednesday, what we do to celebrate Halloween trick or treating and. Well, I can go trick or treating, is it just find some friends to go with because I don't want to do. You've got to stay home and give out candy. No altering whites off. You don't give out candy. Terrible holiday. How the wheat. Oh, it's such a, you're right. It's terrible holiday like meeting your neighbors and eating the most delicious things in the world. What a crap holiday. It's not even close to the most Alicia things in the world, and I generally have neighbors not all them in years. All right. Here we go. Ben Rothlisberger wants James Connor to stay involved after the levian bell return, which he talks about. He's if bells definitely returning seems that way anyway. I did this quick math Lebanon. Bell had four hundred six touches last year. If you take away fifteen percent of his touches and therefore fifty percent of his fantasy points. He would have been the number six running back in non PR number four and PR last year I dunno, whatever. That means anything. No one knows what's fifteen percent. Number figured let's give James Connor fifteen percent of the work. What if it's fifty percent of then we got a problem here. Rosberg by the way, also also playing through an elbow injury, but whatever he's at Cincinnati this week. Interesting. Start sit choice this week on Rothlisberger. We know he's not as good on the road. Should we be adding Chris ivory with Shawn? McCoy trade rumors. Ivory is seventeen percent owned. He had twenty three touches and one hundred twenty six total yards mostly receiving at Minnesota in one game without McCoy should be adding Chris ivory. You couldn't deep release. I don't have a problem with it. It's it's the regular ten and twelve team where you've got five or six Pence spots where I'd go not ready to get him yet. All right. Also, by the way, and I'm trying to find it. I think Shawn McCoy gave accidentally gave up the news that teams are calling to trade for him hoops gimme gimme one minute. I'll give it today, but Kansas City linebacker, Justin, Houston unlikely to play this week, ebony gonna help your bonanza pick, you know what you frigging ruin the bonanza last week you did. So they'll do it again. I mean you've already picked it. It's obviously you can't pick the falcons two weeks in a row. I can't pick the can't be. So it's obviously going to be the chiefs in three weeks in a row. So we'll see. We'll see could be Baltimore Tennessee, everyday, grooms out, Livia Vernon out. Nola Vernon we'll play. He's in. Darren sproles is out and Philadelphia defensive tackle Hello de NADA will miss. Straight game, colts, offensive line. And that's Lawson, jeez. He played nearly the entire second half of last week's game with two broken vertebrae in his spine. He said he could have been paralyzed. We are so thankful that did not happen. He is for the year. I wonder if that's gonna be a rap for slauson could who's been a really, really quality lineman is entire career. Devante Freeman has a foot injury may not play this week. That would be great for Tevin Coleman against the bucks. ITO Smith is fourteen percent on. He had ten, five and ten touches and three games without Freeman, but. Know you have Freeman and Corey Clement or window small, would you have to go with one of those guys tonight? It's the eagles guys. Yeah. And I'll tell you what Coleman has not looked good and certainly not put up the numbers. We'd like to see over the last three weeks. I wonder if the judge ends up getting a little bit more work Gino. This nickname, is it cool? Let me know when you want the little Shawn. McCoy thing. All right. Dalvin cook was limited in practice. Brandin cooks and Cooper participated in a walk through their training in the right direction. The mar- Miller says he is playing this week. Leonard fournette could be held out until we ten according to the Florida football. Insiders Greg's line is probably another week away from returning and is AM crow, MS practice. I think we still expect him to play at this point. Dave real quick that McCoy stuff. So here's the QNA with reporters yesterday. So reporter asked these rumors that you're lying to betrayed to Philadelphia. Leshan McCoy says, I heard about it. I just kinda stay focused on the job at hand. I'll let that stuff work itself out. We'll see what happens. And then he was asked, you know, whether or not a call was actually made. He goes, I'm not going to get into that. That's where my agent and the guys upstairs to work out. Third question Leshan when something like that does happen, do you contact the organization or the coaches just to kind of get a feel what's going on he goes? Yeah. I mean, sometimes this particular one, I just left it. Alone. Oops. Yeah, sounds like someone's calling for Leshan macwell. I mean, Sean McDermott didn't even deny it. So these are not even rumors anymore addressed it before he was even asked about it. Yes. So there's a training gets traded. Absolutely. And could be the eagles. All right. Hey, chew on this. That could be Tampa. Now, look, the Tennessee running backs have been among the biggest bus in fantasy the five opponents that they have faced currently rank thusly. No, like I dunno currently ranked like this. In yards per carry, allowed to running backs. I sixth, seventh, thirteenth and fourteenth. So they have had very tough competition. The things about that ac-. Running backs. Yeah, go ahead one. When you've only played four or five games, having Derek injuries twenty carries at two point five yards per pop certainly helps your season-long procureur out and to they face the ravens this week. Yes, they've as another tough match-up this week, but chargers after that in London, not so good against on yards per carry base now and then a by then by all right. So I guess you guys don't really care. You should care about our other podcasts though. Pick six podcast is awesome, great game analysis, statistical analysis, DFS analysis heath makes an appearance on that show. Check out the pick six podcast. You will love it. 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The likelihood that Philip Lindsey just starts to basically be the number of what clear cut number one running back in Denver. Thirty percent. I was gonna say thirty five percent. Okay. Now I look like a fool because he said, thirty percent person, Nelson. Nelson Nelson aga- Lor I've caught him in a couple of weeks. This is bad again. This week I would consider doing the same. I don't. This is not the same eagles offense. Carson Wentz has had some regression, but more importantly, the offensive line is not doing a good job blocking for him and the receivers are not getting separation. Wenches playing, okay, his numbers are okay. They're just not amazing. That's what the regression is and lane. Johnson might not be healthy for this game tonight against the giants that will hurt him. Mike Williams. I wanna like I want him on my team still. I do recognize that he is a little touchdown dependent, maybe a lot touchdown dependent, but I still like the outlook for him and I like that he's a part of this good San good Los Angeles offense. Heels score five more touchdowns across three different games and maybe top sixty yards twice Amari Cooper. There are some people who are cutting him and they're calling it a sabotage drop. Like that's the name for it because they're sabotaging other people's teams. He makes me nervous this week. I think he's very, very matchup dependent and quarterback dependent in order for his targets to be what you want them to be. Okay. Is he a, would you job Amari Cooper or is that premature? No, it depends on the league. If it's a small ten team non league, and I'm solid at receiver and I want to pick up one of the eagles running backs. He might be the worst player on my team, so I would cut him in that case, your analysis on Corey Davis. I still believe he's going to be a top twenty five thirty wide receiver over the rest of the season, but it may not be great this week. It's going to be good this week. It might not be good next week after that. And after their by week and week nine, it's the Cowboys than the patriots and the colts. There are some good matchups down the stretch. I think Davis could take advantage of. I would. I would continue to keep them on the bench. Chris Thompson. Love them. And I think he's practically every week starting PR and not quite as good and none. I'm terrified of him. He's hurt right now. Every time he gets a heavy workload. He seems to get hurt. If if he has a good game against the Packers, I would be trying to sell. He played the Packers last week. He had an okay game in PR. Chris Thompson, he played the saints and he doesn't play a Packer. He played the Packers weeks ago Panthers panther. So we're, we both Laos that one up pretty badly. He was limited in practice, yes. Okay. So at least to saying, okay, that's Chris Thompson, all right, one debate to get to and then we get into the games. Let's talk about a couple of quarterbacks. We're gonna Jameis Winston against the falcons and Ben Rothlisberger at Cincinnati. We're going to talk about Dave and heath have added for a bit. Then we're going to let the Google assistant aside decide. So listen, you need some fantasy advice. You tweet us Email us chase this down. You come to our homes. We can't always answer your questions we'd love to, but we can't. The Google assistant is a great tool to help you with your starter. Sit questions, your agile questions. I really do enjoy using it every week. It's very fun. Even just to settle a bet with your friends or something. Like that, ask the Google assistant, whatever. Like I said, last week, I always tell my wife use the Google assistant app on our phone because I don't want people to think that I'm running team for her. So you download the Google system happened. You say, hey, Google talked to CBS sports. Then you ask your question. We will do that in a moment. Let's let heath and Dave debate he can go. I James Winston or Ben Rothlisberger this week, like both of these guys this week, they're both top ten quarterbacks, but I will go with James Winston against a much worse defense, the Atlanta Falcons just don't have enough healthy bodies in the bodies they do have or not. They're good players. Winston will throw the ball a bunch because Tampa Bay is the worst rushing team in the NFL in this game has the second highest over under on the slate. So there will be point scored start Jameis Winston with confidence. I think that Rothlisberger is just a little bit safer. It's Winstons I start, we don't know exactly how great will be. He looked okay against Chicago a couple of weeks ago, and I know that he's been preparing. He's done a lot during his spend. To come back and be ready to play. But Roth Asperger's got a good matchup himself before last week, Cincinnati allowed two passing touchdowns and three hundred sixteen pass yards per game to every quarterback they face. That's the average brothels burger twenty one more fantasy points in three of his last four against Cincinnati. He had almost three hundred yards with two touchdowns and pick at Cincinnati last year. And this whole thing about then on the road being bad, he's had three hundred or more yards and or multiple touchdowns in each of his last six on the road. So I think that that provides a nice floor form the way that he's throwing the football to everybody, including James Caan or last week. I think that helps them get closer to a higher ceiling. I'm trusting Rothlisberger before Winston. Well, let's take a look at the Google assistant, see what the assistant essay. So I got my phone out Google assistant at which, like I said, there's a lot more than just give you fancy advice. All right. Here we go, hey, Google, talk to CBS sports. Hi, this is CBS sports and we are using our fantasy football computer projections expert. Rankings to answer your start, sit or add drop questions. Ask a question like should I add ostanek ler or should I drop Philip rivers? You can also ask us to choose between two players. Should I start James Winston or Ben Rothlisberger? James Winston is projected for more fantasy points than Ben Rothlisberger. What else would you like to know vis e be any less comfortable and could I regret this decision anymore? Probably not yet. It's killing me, Dave. How what happened. Muna minutes ago. Now we know why. Oh, I didn't. I never had any like he was not going to keep that he's takes. Absolutely. I know I am a hundred percent you that. Are you kidding me? So the Google assistant says, James Winston over Ben Rothlisberger and I hope you can see just how useful this could be. You can use the Google assistant app or use Google assistant on Android all season long by asking, hey, Google, talk to CBS sports and each week. We'll tackle key fantasy questions. So you can submit yours via fantasy football at CBS. I dot com. Or if you want your question read on h. q. live on h. q. next week, tweet at CBS fantasy at CBS fantasy for your Google assistant questions. Here we go with indie. The jets just terrible. Sorry about that. Stat of the game, New York state is home to fifty eight species of wild orchids. Oh, nice. Fifty, eight. I mean, I couldn't believe that number. I thought it'd be in the forties. Andy. Nice. Andrew luck. Big difference in the rankings here. Dave has look. Fourth heath has look for teeth about that four teens, how come. Listen. I like Andrew luck and I have been a supporter of Lux since the summer. So I don't wanna say anything negative, Andrew, but the key to his success. The last two weeks has been volume. Oh, no, kidding hundred and twenty one passing that Gillian times I completely agree with you. Go ahead heat of both of those games in the second quarter against the patriots. They were down twenty one to three. Midway through the third against Houston. They were down three scores. I don't think this jets team is the type of team that's going to build a three score lead early against the colts. And you look back at what happened to look the to remember before these last two games. What people were saying about Andrew luck always shoulders terrible you can drop Andrew luck. You can't trust. Andrew luck. Not a lot changed other than the fact that he threw a billion passes and he did play better against Houston. I did think he looked really good last week. I don't think he was as bad in the first two games that everybody was so worried about. But when you're only throwing thirty one passes against Washington because your team has a lead, you're only throwing forty against Philadelphia because they don't have a good offense and getting what is up, t, y Hilton a Jack Doyle? Exactly. The small exactly fourteenth is is kind of low. I guess. Fourth is kind of high, I guess. So Dave, discuss your thoughts on Andrew luck. Well, completion percentage over the last two weeks has been at sixty four percent. So with all the work he has been getting, he has connected very well with them, and his yards per attempt is up in obviously his touchdowns are up. He has seven passing in the last two weeks. More importantly, they can't run the ball at all. They don't have a good running game. Now, Marlin back might play this week that might repeat might change the way I feel about Andrew luck a smidge because I think he can give them a decent rushing presence for ever long. He's on the. Field, but this jet secondary is horrible. And even though the jets aren't going to put up a ton of points and put the the colts in a hole in this game, I think there's going to be no choice, but for Andrew lucked to continue throwing passes and he's not going to throw fifty times in the same. He might only throw thirty five forty times in this game. I still think that's enough for him to get you close to three hundred yards and at least two touchdowns maybe three. He's got upside and just what if on the off chance that the jets offense does put up numbers, they did it last week against Denver. This is an easier opponent for them to do it. Now, all of a sudden luck might have to throw even more than what I'm talking about. So I'm not even baking that into this. Go back to the thirty five to forty pessimists because still you talked about how his completed attempt has gone up. Yes, so it was six point one last week. He's six point one for the season. Let's assume his six point one in this game. He was seven point five against Houston to yes ago that was the only game he said above seven, but that. Could that's just any IT wild. Yes. Let's call it six point. Six point one. Okay. Times thirty five. It's going to be about two hundred fifty. It's about two hundred while I was doing temps forty times forty would get you about to forty, but I don't. He's got a throw it fifty times Jeff, three hundred dollars. On that yards per tempt average. Yes. Yeah. And I look at the last two games, right, good and bad is thrown forty. Five passes against Houston. He would've scored thirty one fantasy points. That's great. And six point passing touchdown. These if you throw in forty five passes at New England, he was twenty one fantasy points. So I think he's wars, twenty fantasy points to be clear. I think more than twelve quarterbacks twenty fantasy points. All right. All right, so so there's your luck debate and I guess that shapes how you feel about the colts wide receivers as well. Yes. These guys are averaging nine yards per reception. I also Rogers is eight catches in two straight games right when when the sixty passes just Rogers gets ten targets eleven targets, and then he catches eight passes for sixty yards. Right? But if you cut that number by two thirds, like we are for lex passive temps than he's getting eight targets catching five or six of them for forty five yards. And you're just hoping touchdown. Okay. So you're not starting any of the colts wide receiver say I'm starting Eric Brown. Yeah, he's they're number one wide receiver. Yep. He's a top seven tight end for everybody for for Jamie fifth or sixth for Dave, sixth or seventh for heath spending on the format. I don't. I don't necessarily disagree with what you guys were saying earlier that if you're desperate wide receiver, these guys are really low owned and they would be a decent Fillon. I just don't like them as like they're atop thirty thirty five receiver. You've gotta start them. No, no, Dave. You have Rodgers ranked. The highest assume. Yes, you have thirtieth and PR you have him like right on the board or any third, twenty third. Okay. Would you start any colts running back. I don't know if I'm excited to start Marlin MAC, certainly a buy week replacement. I would. If MAC, I will start Hines NPR and if accent, no, I would back away from high just too, but those guys are going to catch passes from Andrew luck as well. That's part of the secrets. Luxembourgers is what he gets from those running backs through the air. All right. Would you start Hines over other jets running back this week, go to the jets. As of now, I would in PR over who both of them really start Hines over both of them. Okay, I would check. I would take Crowell over Hines and non, but they're all in the flex for me in non p p r I would start both jets over Hinds in p p r I would start Hines over both of them. Is there a jet that you're excited about starting this week? No. I'm non PR. I'm pretty good. I'm pretty excited about starting Isaiah Crowell where I'm ranked twenty. Interesting. I guess I'm looking now it's it's nineteen the pre good nice that you are. I currently I'm twenty six. He'll probably end up moving up at least once by win Davante Freeman gets ruled out. Yeah, and crow l. might score it's Darris Leonard could be back for Indianapolis, so it's not as groovy of matchup or situation as it was last week for him. Coelho's twenty-seventh for heath and PR. So he's a sit and PR is starting not PBR at least for heath Quincy. An-and we'll Robbie Anderson interest Anderson I think is a great boomer bust third receiver or flex regardless of format. Indianapolis, a secondary shredded right now, and the only spot where they're going to get a good player back is going to be in the slot ice-locked corner. We'll be back there outside corners, lots of issues. And I think Robbie could take advantage. I tried to hold onto Quincy noon, win a couple of PR leagues. I had to drop them in a couple of because I had him in a bunch. I want to see where he lines up in this game because what happened to him last week. And I don't know if this is because Chris Harris plays in the slot and they were trying to get him away from there or what was going on. But he had been a guy that was running at least half of his of his routes from the slot. And last week it felt a twenty two percent. He's not going to be good if he's running twenty two percent of his routes from the slight. He's not beating people outside. Okay, threat this game up so that we wrapped it up. He went from fourteen outside snaps and week two to thirty six outside snaps and we fought. I think they're just using them out there because Germain curses. Maybe they wanna get him going in the slot a little bit more. All right. Let's go to our next game. Sunday night, football, Kansas City at New England. Stat of the game. Kids city allows ninety one receiving yards per game to running backs, ninety one. That's the most in the NFL last year Tennessee. Allow the most receiving yards posing running backs at sixty yards per game. So they're pathetic. But that a lot of that was week one with Gordon. They're still bad in that regard, but not ninety per game. Anyway, James white is an obvious start. So I think that to save time and to save you from analysis that you don't really need Mahomes and Brady are both top-five Brady is number actually Heathrow Brady fourth Brady's one for Dave, and Jamie and fourth for heath. Everybody has Brady ranked ahead of homes, but it's close. Obviously we're starting to Kareem hunt, Michelle, James wider must starts. Yes, yes. Is James why must start a non PR. Sure. Number two running back. There are some running like I wouldn't call them start because they're twelve running. Backs. I ever entire the name. I'd rather start Yeldan Connor even Chris Carson and Sony Michelle, but you're probably starting James white both formats, which starred James wider Jordan. Howard it non PR white white is here's here's his fancy point totals this season ten eight, ten twenty two thirteen. It not PBR non PR at obviously much much higher PR which tight end do you like better? Does that curiosity Kelsey guilty? I'm a little. I'm not worried about growing, but it's a little mystifying trying to figure out where Brady's targets are going in this game. We look at the chiefs passing game. I know we're starting Mahomes but to say the patriots right now, they allowed the third fewest yards per attempt in the NFL. It must have been very good at home, but we'll see the homes. Mahomes is awesome. Tyreek hill, Sammy Watkins. However, how good or bad or in between do you feel about tyreek hill and Sammy Watkins the patriots have not allowed a seventy yard wide receiver in any of their last three games that'd be at Detroit, Miami and the colts. However, they did allow touchdown to to Detroit wide receivers, but pass defense has been okay lately. So what do you think about hill and walk ins? I grew their past fence is getting better. I still think they have a liability at slot corner, and I don't know if they've got a corner that can match up speed-wise tyreek hill here. Bella check was doing in preparation for this game. No. What was that? He was having in the scrimmages to prepare his defence for this. The opposing teams, the offense was starting with the receivers, three yards downfield. Interesting is they didn't have any re- receivers that could simulate their speed, you know, I, I'm, I'm surprised that even got out. Yeah, that's that's surpri like dibella checks that I, it sounds like something that like I think that it's up. Set. Well, that's very interesting. Are they look? I mean, I can't sit here. I can't sit here and say, is tyreek hill start because he hasn't been that good. The last three games. Tyreek hill. You're probably starting, say me Watkins to you. Don't have to start Sammy, which gave which Chester Rogers over Sammy Watkins. I think I wouldn't PR for sure. All right, say walk. It's not so bad. PR himself had six catches for seventy yards against Jacksonville last week. Kelsey gronk. Yes, Brady, yes. Show. Yes. Why? Yes. So how about the patriots wide receivers? An-and and Gordon Gordon has had four targets last week to targets the week before we did catch a long touchdown last week, and it'll minute seven cashes for fifty seven yards on nine targets and week five and Kansas City. They were really bad against Pittsburgh and the chargers wide receivers in the first two games since then the chiefs of not allow double digit fantasy points to a wide receiver in non PR in three straight games, no more than seventy six yards to a wide receiver in those three games, no wide receiver touchdowns against the chiefs in their last three games. So how do we feel about element and Gordon. I'm still sorting element with confidence. I think the matchup is actually best for him and Gordon is one of those. You're going to take a shot with shot player type guy where like Robbie Anderson, boom bust. Yeah, I, I view at Allman Gordon pretty close in non PBR. They're both just outside of my top thirty. In p p r Eto and moves up to the top twenty four just barely and Gordon actually falls a little. The targets haven't been there for him. I don't know about whether Ataman has the best matchup in this candidate evens in theory, they have like three slot corners and two of them are trying to play outside. So the slot should be the toughest place against the chiefs defense and hasn't always been true this year, though. Eto van or window Smallwood. Small wooden, both Smallwood Ataman or Clement. I'll take element NPR. That's close. That's really close. I'll I'll take element of PR Josh Gordon or sterling Shepard. Shepper Shepard. All right. We got some fans will contests to tell you about. It's back to a five dollar contest, love this contest competing against our listeners about twelve hundred slots available. Get in there right now at fan will dot com. Slash f, f t you've got time fans will dot com. Slash f, f t set align up, enjoy it. You're not gonna be able to play this New England Kansas City game because this is just the Sunday main slate. 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Let's speed it up here. Chicago back should have. They should be the focus of the offense for Chicago. If we're going to trust Matt Nagy to attack the weakness of his opponent, that's where the weaknesses for Miami. It's in the run defense and how they do against running backs in general, which running back do you like better for the bears this week? I've got Howard right hire. It's very close in PR. How much do you guys trust Jordan? Howard. I'm going to start them. Enough, what's trust got to do with it. In one spot higher in in full PBR if Freemen's out which start Tevin Coleman or Howard, I'd start any bears running back over any falcons running back. I would start Howard. I'd start Coleman over to re Cohen in non. I don't know, Dave disagree. I know that he hasn't been running the ball that well, but he still put giving production Coleman. Went Freemen's out. It gets a ton of work. What's what's the production? What's it been ten fantasy points actually, that's been the max, and that was three weeks ago and he has nine fantasy points combined in his last two games. Now, one of the late last week, well, Freeman played and then he got hurt, and then you know Smith night the touchdown. He's playing well, neither is Jordan Howard Jordan Howard's averaging three point two yards per carry or something that's true. But I do like his match better and I think he'll get more work. All right. Would you start Jordan Howard or Juliette? OMON PR Howard. Mike? Oh, Ellman. Okay. To Rico interurban. Cohen. Why is head of both? Why Robinson so low in the rankings. He sexually, the highest isn't twenty six and PR outside the top thirty nine rod, I think I think he's only giving you double digit PR fantasy points once this year. And I think this is a tough match reform. I still I, I was sold on the dolphins past early on this season. I wasn't quite there in the preseason, and I know they're missing one of their top corners on the outside, but they still have exhibited Howard who is a little hot and cold, but it slot they've got make Fitzpatrick. So if they go in the slot and then I think Robinson's gonna have a tough time with him. I think Robinson's just not going to get the type of him that you want. He's got one game this season with more than four catches and he's facing xavien Howard. And everyone else in this offense has a good up in the passing game. I don't think they force it to them not some, whoever's in the slot do not overlook make Fitzpatrick. He's been very good. He's allowed fewer numbers than Howard Howard's allowed touchdowns. That's going to our friends at sports. Oh solutions. What about trae burden? I'm not sure trait burden is a good up because Delaney Walker had fifty two yards on seven targets. Then left with an injury, Jared cook at five catches for thirty one yards against the dolphins and rob gronkowski had four catches for forty four yards. I gotta give dolphins credit. They've done well against good tight ends there. One of the few teams it's face multiple good, tight ends. I'd say. Yeah, burden is not by any stretch of the immagination of us start. I don't know how he could be with the limited targets that he's gotten. He is for me kind of the last guy in that. Okay. Am I going to start Niles poll. Yeah, you know, I don't wanna start Niles Paul, but he did get nine targets last week. He's not a bad streamer, but I'm not going to start him over crepe burden, but I'd start camera braid over them. I'd start Jared, cook, Eric, Braun Jordan. Read all those guys over. Okay. The quarterbacks were sitting right. Trubisky. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Any dolphins starting any dolphins in this game? Drake's Affleck's and so it's gonna stills. He Drake looked so good last week. You'd love to see him get more work. I think the coaches are starting to be open to the idea of using him as a pass catching running back and he he had a lot of garbage time numbers last week. A lot of catches came in garbage time. He had a twenty five yard run to end the game who's kinda thank to watch the two and a half points doing it. And at the same time, he also had a play where he pancake defender caught a ball juke to defenders, broke a tackle, and that wasn't even the the play that he caught a touchdown on. So he's got talent. It's just a matter of the dolphins, leaning on them, entrusting them which clearly they have issues with America's got talent. Dave, they say. America. Kenyan Drake or Kenny stills, who's a better flex? I'll take Drake. Yeah, I think I will to all right. Kenyan Drake or Taylor? Gabriel who's a better flex. Gabriel's interesting because the volume that he gets, I believe he actually leads the bears in receptions, I'll take Draken non Gabriel beer who's a better flyer. This week Taylor Gabriel or one of those colts wide receivers. I'll take Rogers over Gabriel. I'll take abriel over all of the colts. Gabriel gets a lot of his targets in short yardage, and the bears try and have them make a play after the catch twenty nine targets that second on the barest Robinson twenty two catches. That's I on the bears. Robinson one hundred ninety three yards. That's just behind Robinson two touchdowns. That leads bears wide receivers. Okay, let's go to our next game. It is Cincinnati hosting Pittsburgh said of the game AJ green in his last three home games against Pittsburgh, twenty two hundred twenty four yards and a touchdown hundred thirty two yards and a touchdown, seventy seven yards and two touchdowns. He missed the two thousand sixteen gay, but boy has been a monster in this matchup at home against Pittsburgh. So maybe DFS play for you there, which quarterback d like better. Dlt. Rothlisberger they're both start both worthy of being started, and we can start them to Jared Goff I assume. Yes, correct. All right. And both the quarterback tonight, James might take off over dole. All right, James Connors, top nine in both formats. Bengals allow four point seven yards per carry star, both Pittsburgh wide receivers, kind of interesting, Dave, Jamie event, twenty Brown number one. Overall, he has about tenth. Any reason for that? He's he like he had a very good game with a couple touchdowns last week, but on a per target and per catch basis. He and been not been on the same page still this year. There are two receivers in the NFL with at least forty targets that have caught less than sixty percent of them an average less than eleven yards per reception. One of them's Antonio Brown, the other ones, Mike Crabtree well, I loved the how they connected in the second half last week because in the first half year I eat they were. They were way off and Cincinnati's done a good job against Tony Brown vest. His, yes. Oh, he has one touchdown in his career at Cincinnati, and it came last year, but that's pretty crazy. One touchdown at Cincinnati in his career starters, advanced McDonald. Trying to get away from him. Yeah, there's plenty of other low own Haydn's. I'd rather start victims Burton. Burton Burton and the other tied in this game, Donald, Jessie, j o CJ whose hits Berg. Oh, wow, really? Okay. Pittsburgh is terrible against everything, but running back second, most fantasy points to quarterbacks third-most wide receivers. Second most tight ends. They're gonna be. A lot of starts here for the Bengals dolphins start. Joe mixing. Does it worry at all that his matchup is tough that Steelers do have good run defense, three point, four yards per carry. I'll tell you what for a guy that's coming off of arthroscopic knee surgery. He looked really good again in the second half against the dolphins, making an impact, catching the football. I think that helps us profile. I'm going to enjoy using Joe mix and while Giovani Bernard is on the shelf. Okay. Let's start guy right. Vixen or Sony, Michelle. I believe I've mixing tire. I definitely have mixed hire PR and I haven't Meyer on. All right. AJ grades, top eight. Are we getting back to Tyler Boyd this week, ninety four percent own right back to him. He's a top twenty four wide receiver for me. I don't know how he has them. I don't love his specific matchup against Mike Hilton. That's the slot corner for Pittsburgh, but I liked the volume and certainly you can get away from Hilton depending on how the Steelers scheme up Tyler Boyd or Sammy Watkins void, boy, Tyler Boyd or Jordan. Howard. Definitely Boyd and PR in non PR. I'll go Howard okeydokey and that's it. Buffalo is at Houston. Stat of the game in their last three weeks. Buffalo has held Kirk cousins, Aaron Rogers and Marcus mariota to sixteen or fewer fantasy points. Six point passing touchdown, leaks cousins had eleven Rogers at sixteen. Mario had four. Does that mean anything to you as you ranked Shawn? Watson. No, not particularly. I don't. I'd rather start Jameson Watson, but other than that, I'm starting Watson star, Dalton or Watson wasn't one spot higher than Dalton for me. I watch and several spots, Dalton for me, and that's in six point, professor touch four point for passage. It's very easy. I assume, right? Yes. Watson has four straight games to twenty three or more fantasy points. Six point leagues, four straight games with three hundred ten or more passing yards. Three straight games, three hundred and seventy five or more passing guards and thirty six rushing yards in all five games. Okay, that's great. Houston running backs. Are you starting either? Well, how about this rank rank the three running backs in this game in buffalo, Houston. Tough question. It's they're all outside of my top twenty four. It's McCoy. Then blue. I guess Miller says he's gonna play. The I'm going McCoy blue Miller. That's I, I'm gonna go McCoy and then I'm not going to make a choice to me. There's only one guy to rank in. That's so do you just think that the mar- Miller, if he plays is not going to get his full workload? No, I do not think he will splits Ville. Which which, sorry, which Texas running back to you, rank higher. Blue, I guess as of now blue is right tire. Okay. I'm not gonna feel good about starting either. One start tither Boyd over the Shawn McCoy. Whit how many, how many wide receivers for the Texans would you start over McCoy other than, okay, obviously, Hopkins anyone else. Fuller and PR QT for sure. Yeah, I might do in a non people is the only one I would start over McCoy I'm I'm a little worried about willfuller and he's awesome and has huge upside, and I'm not saying you should bench him. He's not my top twenty four wide receiver. So I kind of 'em saying you should bench him, but the it, there's no time for Shawn, Watson at all, and Bullard doesn't run generally the types of routes, especially with Cutie there that a quarterback looks for when there's no time. But when there is time right and Fuller's deep, but I don't. I don't like this. Buffalo diva is not bad. I think he's a little bit more than just a deep ball threat now, but I agree to your point. He's like, I and every single week I'm going to have to choose to three between tither boy, Juliette OMON and will fuller and PR, and it's just sort of in, excuse right now to sit fuller. It makes my decision easier. He's been under fifty yards each of his last two games with eight total targets. He's. Playing hurt, cuties taking on more work. So it's an easy call for me to get away from fuller, even though I think he could have a good game. But if you have good options it just to me, it's an easy call. Cutie is sixty four percent own. It's probably too low starter set. Album veteran PR. I think he's a sneaky flex. Maybe even may even close to the board of number two receiver NPR. Yeah, he's not my top thirty five, but I do think he has upside and I do like more NPR at buffalo in their last three games they faced, I guess, four games Keenan Allen Stefan digs Davante Adams, Corey Davis. None of them have scored. None of them have more than eight fantasy points in non PR. They've done a good job. Buffalo's defense has gotten better to be an interesting game. I think chargers at Cleveland and other interested game stat of the game. Philip rivers has three carries inside the five yard line that is as many as awesome Eker and Melvin Gordon combined. That's very strange. Melvin. Gordon has one carry inside the five yard line. There could be even more production coming for for Melvin. Gordon could be less production coming for Philip rivers who has seven point, five percent touchdown rate, which is by far career highest career rate is five point, three percent. I am so proud right now. Right? I knew you would. I am so proud of. It was one of my favorite moments in the us. Yeah, I'm scared of rivers this week. I've, I mean, he's number eleven for Mazel. He's ranked as a starter, but this Cleveland defense has been one of the best in the NFL at turning quarterbacks over. And we've seen plenty of west coast teams playing in these games at start at ten AM their time. They generally get off to slow starts. This is a low scoring, ugly type game, or I don't know if that Brown's defenses. They've turned the ball over a lot, but they're getting a little thin in the secondary. I could see rivers getting off to slow start. I could see him finishing fast though. I, Dave as river six, Jamie, and heath have rivers. Eleventh. So you have to check the rankings for comparing him to Dalton or Winston teeth definitely has those two ahead of rivers. Dave is do you have Winston or rivers? I have rivers that of Winston. All righty. Allston Eker the new Alvin Kamara. He's averaging six yards per carry and fourteen point eight yards per catch. Ch- he has three receiving touchdowns on fourteen catches this year starters. Awesome. Eker he has more fantasy points per game than touches per game ho. Wow, that's funny. That is I, I'm fine using them as a number two running back reflects. I think he can keep this up. I think these, I think he has seventeen plays of ten plus yards already the season just really, they're. They're being real judicious about how often they use him. But when they do use them, he's affective. I, I will say that I do not think that he can keep this up short. I don't. I don't want to start off sneck lawyer in this game. He is a low wind flex for me. I understand if you can't get away from him, but he's getting seven carries in three targets per game like their increased passing to the running back has mostly been increased passing. Melvin Gordon. He caught one pass, right? Yeah, that's just one grab. How about how about how Sean Jeffrey. Rawson eker. Start jeffrey. I believe I've Ecuador ranked ahead of Jeffrey. All right. Are we starting any any charges wide receivers, other than Keenan? Allen? I'm not. Okay. Are we starting a tight end in this game. The joke who in PR I am not. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the joke has gotten a lot of work with babies best games, seven targets against Oakland. Ten targets gets Baltimore and eleven catches for one hundred ten yards or one hundred twenty one yards in those two gifts combined those touchdowns. Yeah, I don't. I don't love his matchup this week. Derwin James one on one with him probably for most of the game. That'll be. That'll be tough. He won't get open very often. Yeah. Oh, actually, good point because here's what good tight ends of done against the chargers. Travis Kelsey had one catch for six yards, Jared cook at forecast for twenty yards for catches for twenty yards. George kit had six one hundred twenty five and a touchdown. He did have a somewhat fluky eighty two yard touchdown catch. So we'll see maybe the chargers going gonna be a team that's very good against titans. What do we think about the Browns in this game? Are we starting Baker Mayfield Carlo sided cetera. I think is one of those running backs that you just kind of have to go with based on his volume. Number two running back for me, and I think this could be a Jarvis week. I think this could be a pretty good game for Jarvis. I think he can get some good numbers. I like him as a number two receiver even in non PR. Yeah, he's a number two receiver. Hide is everything they've said, you'd have to start him. I don't. I know there's some excitement about Baker Mayfield. I'm not feeling this week. I think it may come after this week right scheduled. It's really good for them. Jarvis Landry by the way is on pace for ninety three catches and we talked about Taylor Gabriel. We talked about the colts wide receivers. What about Antonio Calloway with Higgins out? Do you think Calloway is a good. Hail, Mary type play this week. He's only a hail Mary type that they are getting less and less enchanted with him. Derek Willie's had a same number of targets as Tonio Calloway last week when Higgins went down and I have no idea who willies is. I'm just now learning about him. Here's here's the cliff notes. He's six foot four. So nice big outside receiver with a horrible pedigree coming out of college. Los Angeles Rams are at Denver aunts that of the game. Demaria's. Thomas has gone three straight games with five to seven targets after having Twenty-one targets combined in his first two games, they have really seemed to transition away from Thomas to Emmanuel Sanders. Even though Thomas did have a hundred yards touchdown last week. Do you rank Sanders Marius. Yes, but they're much closer this week than they were before? Yes, I do. Do you start any? Do start them? Yeah, I'm starting Sanders. I am not. Starting to Marius Woody worried about Damaris. He's had five targets. Five, seven targets thrive. Three straight games enough. The touchdown last week was definitely flew cash and Coralline Sutton actually started to get in on the act before did last week. I think Portland Sutton is the best receiver on the Broncos he will. He's not in fantasy 'cause he's not getting the targets, but he's going to be good. I think you will be good. Yeah, that's a, that's a beat the waiver wire kind of like, I guess you that pretty deep rousers, but I could see a scenario where he has a good second half and then according to Sanders or Josh Gordon. Oh, Sanders. Pretty's. Yes. To Maria's Josh Gordon, Josh Gordon, various not may. I'll take the Maria's fill-ins your Royce free. Linsey Lindsay, Philip Lindsey or Carlo side. I think I've hydra tire almost positive. Yeah, definitely hide. All right. What about Freeman? How about Freeman or Emmanuel Sanders Freemen's not start for me. Nope. Like making talk about giving him more touches all they want until they do. I'm not, sorry. Okay. And you believe in NFL coach lied to the to the public. Really weird. The Rams by the way are allowing four point nine yards per carry two running backs, but they have been great against running backs in the passing game as we take a look at the Rams. So we just wait and say, well, I mean, we know the weather's going to be going to be really cold in this game. So give me your overall take on everybody, but girly the passing game. I love rubber woods. If he's the only receiver among their starters, who's healthy for the game, we aren't wrangling this way. My guess is that all of the Rams wide receiver playing are starting for you. I can't imagine I'm actually going to bench any of them. Exactly. Okay, Rams deal. I understand what you're saying about the weather and Goff and I just can't imagine benching any them. Okay, Rams the top ten, two bad weeks in a row, but Denver's allowed eleven Saxon the last three games and Baltimore's at Tennessee. Our final game here, stat of the game, the titans have not allowed to touch down to a running back this year and they've allowed just one carry of twenty plus yards. I don't think they're that good against running back though. They are giving up like four point four yards per carry, two running backs yet what it is, but no touchdowns passing a receiving or rushing anyway. General question about Baltimore, Tennessee. Is there one good start in this game? I like giambra. Yeah. Love is volume last week. He just couldn't come through. Flaco didn't have a great game. I think flacco has chance to rebound a little bit and I think John Brown could be that guy that helps them, yeah. Okay. There's not one start that I feel good about in this game, but I think you're probably starting John Brown and there's a decent chance that you don't have a better option than Alex Collins running back and Corey Davis. I mean, Jarvis Landry aged green, twenty Brown juju Smith Schuster all fail to reach seventy yards against Baltimore. That said green at three touchdowns Brown had one tie there had a big game, but a lot of that was without Jimmy Smith. So it's it's a tough. It's a low scoring game. I don't think there's a lot of difference between Corey Davis, John Brown. Well, Brown's been better. But I, I like Corey Davis. You mean this week overall this week. Okay. Tennessee has had has allowed one hundred yard games to Kenny stills. The Andre Hopkins will fuller in Sean Jeffrey. So it would appear that there are better matchup. For what it's worth. Hey, guys, thanks. I gotta take this frigging onesie off. It went from being the best gift you ever got to a frigging one. Dave, but I've hot and uncomfortable and there's just a lot of forget it. Forget it. We're out of here. No, those back sweat. Oh, we're back sweat area. I don't do back sweat. I don't sweat from my back. I don't do it. You're such a why? It's really hard to sweat when you don't do anything like he's going to roll his chair over into the living room now to watch some prices right, and then roll it over to the oven to pick up the whatever's cooking for lunch. Dispute that. All right, we are out of here. I got nothing to cook for lunch will actually going out for lunch today and bringing something back in just so you all know fantasy baseball podcast later today, she get excited for that for Dave Richard for heath Cummings on atom as her Thursday, go giants. No.

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"Donald show here on ESPN LA lines hanging out with us today on a Friday mama Momo's on the line. Now. Whatever moaner what's going on? All I can speak about the. Don't be day Coulter, dre culture. You know what time it is? Right. This is a real thing mobile. I said you're gonna come on. You're gonna back me up at this is a representation of the current state of NBA culture in twenty nine hundred ninety s and, and can we go a little further and talk about something that, I don't think people fully appreciate yet, like Drake. Is it paid brand ambassador? This isn't just like real fan life like your share or like this. Hold on challenge flag. This isn't just what are you saying? I mean, this isn't right. This isn't real fan life right now. This is bigger than real fan life. No. He paid to be a fan is literally paid, right? Let me ask you this before we get into the Drake staff, and the and the stuff with the at the game, we were just talking about the Doc Rivers fine. And clearly I think that's worth it at fifty grand. But my thing is this. He was brought on to give analysis on ESPN and what you know. So he made a comparison, which by the way, Tracy McGrady made the exact same comparison on the jump this week. And he's getting fine. I think it's stupid. Like, what are we doing here with this? I by the way, just for the record. I thought it was stupid. When magic said that Janas would bring a championship to the bucks, and he got fined fifty grind for that. Like we need to create better rules, here Momo, because it feels like we've just kind of jumped the shark with the tampering stuff at this point. Yeah. I mean I I'm with you. I thought both stupid, right? That got me about the clippers fine today was that, you know, it's not like they didn't like tell the NBA that Doc Rivers was going to be on this show. This was approved like this was, like, you know, and the nature of the show was, like this is NBA finals preview show. So like what's he's not talk, but any player in final like happens to be a free agent. You know, I don't know. There's a. I think they kind of had to find it because they find magic for saying the same thing. But I think both are stupid. Things a little ridiculous. But the idea of that Colli was not going to go to the clippers, but because dot compared him to MJ on this right show, what actually turned deal. I'm in now, do you think however, Ramona that the outcome of this series one way or other four Kevin Durant four quiet Leonard has any impact on their free agency this summer? Yeah, I do. Okay. Yeah, I just I just think things matter like this. I just know. Like I remember covering the Braun last time he was in Miami. And, you know, Rich Paul had a quote to me has something like, you know, the outcome of the series again affect his vision. Nope. Absolutely did if they would've won that series bronze not leaving. Three in a row. He was gonna stay. Yeah. I saw Brown was gonna leave Miami like. And I thought who was always an option to come back. But I didn't think it was we then and then that team just looked old. They just got, you know, everybody got old overnight, and Brown was like I'm bound right like that was that was kinda how that win. So I, I don't know. Like if the raptors win is really hard for quiet lease. I still think he does. I, I know there's like this, like, sort of flicker of hope that he would stay regardless because he does enjoy Canada that you have, you know, nice nice young team that he can continue to contend with in the east. But like I know I just I just think the guy is in pretty clear. He wants to be back home in California. He has house there what he has wanted the whole time. This is it you know, he wanted that before anything with south with the with the Spurs. I mean this is a pretty consistent desire. And I it's not like Paul George. Paul George is, you know, is from Palmdale. But he's, you know, like good fishing. And you know that kind of a lifestyle very Oklahoma. A lot of a lot of fishing trips in your history. They were motive actually I do. My dad used to take me up. Go fishing up in the Sierras cousins. I know that like real fishing lifestyle. There's a show. I wanna see Momo interviewing MBA players bench suggested because I was telling we were telling stories about, like, PJ Carlesimo amigo and on the road with him and eating like awesome. Restaurants, late at night, algebra shoot. Oh, and Pino talking to Friday. So bent says that we should pitch that as a show that, basically, it's just late night dining in NBA on the NBA circuit. Yeah. Well might last night I catch and a couple of the guys, you know, and the raptors like hey, add team Danny green in a while. I haven't been around the raptors lot. Right. And, and we're catching up and then all of them, though at some point as they're leaving like. Yeah. About to go out. Yeah. I just gotta catch dinner before they all the restaurants. This is like twelve thirty at night and Toronto, and they have like certain restaurants that will stay open that they, you know, in big cities, espec-, especially, but even in like most of like that hold member a couple years ago that whole home city thing like the restaurant that kit. Wouldn't let Kevin Durant in. Yeah. That steakhouse right there, next to the famous the haunted hotel. Yeah. Here they always say are actor gains all of the under five thirty eat. And that's where like Haiti had always done eat after play. And so that's why that was such a big beef because that was he, he was like business partners without owner of that restaurant. And they were going to be opened. It's like the only place in town to go get dinner after momma. What is Johnny or something? Yeah. What, what, what is, what is Katie status? So I caught him. I this is like very is like very unglamorous reporter life. You don't you know, my reporter life. Listen, I, I was trying to leave. And we're overall taping something for Katie Nolan here. It's going to be kind of funny, when she puts out later but it's an I'll believe walk over to shoot with Katie, and then as I'm leaving I see Kevin Durant walking to the warriors locker room. And he looked like he just finished his. Workout. So I was like, oh, maybe I'll just like linger and I'll just bump into him after he I says, or you know, comes back out and I'm thinking this is going to be like ten or fifteen minute. Wait, right. Nope. He was in there for over an hour getting treatment on that on that, right? Calf muscle. And he came out. I didn't see any live. He he looked like he got a pretty decent work. I mean, I, I saw commend he was all sweaty at he'd worked out. You gotta get a pretty run, and then did an hour of treatment. And I, I guess I was lucky it was only an hour 'cause he's, he's doing whatever he can get back. And I think I mean obviously he's out per game, too, but we have basically whole nother week before game three and if he's getting closed they're down to like I wouldn't be surprised all plays game three and you know, definitely think starts warm up. I gave force. I think that's the expectation les. Yes. Some kind of setback. Willis retype situation where if he comes back, it's for a motion reasons if they go down. Oh, two. Or is there a chance that he could actually contribute? You know, history will while he's remember that will is reading the guy may two shots. And that was it. Right. It was an emotional thing. So is there a chance where you can give them twenty nine and thirty five minutes? I think there is actually I you know what it is about injury. Ben, it's like the kind of injury like he actually might feel fine walking around and doing stuff, but you have to really make sure your back because if you there's definitely a high risk of re entering it, it's not like the Kathy Bill again, anytime. So you just if you rush should take off the rest of the series, I think I think you should just sit at home rest up for next year and say, health and Kevin, don't push it. Right. I think that's fine. But you're missing something here. Okay. And it's like. The warriors and players like Kevin Durant. Like when you start to okay. He's got two titles. He gets three now you're starting to get in that same conversation with magic and Jordan. I mean, like like you're getting up there. You know, you got the warriors are gonna four if they win all you need any one more to catch Koby one more catch Bajic two more to catch Jordan, like like, once you start getting up in that air like the Arab there. Right. Like, you know, pretty pretty tempting like you still wanna leave any any championships on the table. I mean I you have. No. You're absolutely right now. I thought this was going to be the coronation of his career. And this would be his ascension to top five top ten status or something. And that's not what's happening. Right. So if they win like I get why wouldn't you wanna try four in a row? No one's done that since Russell. Yeah. I mean that's, that's the pitch right? Like the well, no, okay. I'll tell you the page, the pitches, you know us, and we know you and maybe it doesn't feel like family. But that's exactly what family is. Man. We don't all have to lighter, so good, these NBA teams gotta get you in the room, you're so much better than billboards and steak dinners. You got this down. The who need safer, that was great, keep going. It, it does make sense. Go ahead. Yeah. I mean, you know, Canada's been went to three or four different high schools. This is this is his second team, but like you know, do you really wanna be guy who just jumps around from lily pad to lily pad? We know you, you know, as you know, are good bad ugly. Like there's no surprises here anymore. Plus we're all gonna go over to the chase center and make a bunch of money. And when we're titled, let's went forward, five six that's your pitch. It's not about, like it's not about, like, hey, will can result change. It's about we know each other. And that's kind of what family, I and I think that, yes, I do them rant leaves. Right. Like I've always, I've just thought that all year long. And it's not just because, you know, we all would love to see the Knicks peak rate again. I'm I'm with you. I'm not been. I just I, I think it bays, better when the next grade, and at least good, they don't have to be crazy. They can. Good. How about just competent? Who are we start there just competent like like the NBA needs to have this as it's where guard be rock? And again, I just I just need to see that happen. Okay. And, you know, put out neither the really happy to six is your again, I really have to, you know, the clippers have got staple center going again. Let's see what the Lakers, like it's just I'm a I'm a big Sadie kinda girl. I like it with no Caesar good. You know, so. But I, I think for the warriors, and Kevin, it's like they this is this should not just been like a, you know, a little pop in when if you titles bounce. This is like a long term relationship that they thought they were for me. Nothing went wrong. Like, that's the nothing went wrong in this relationship. It's just you know what do you want wanna be a guy? Sticks it out. Or do you want to be a guy who just kinda jumps along? You know, it moves onto a different place. Every few years dog, you want to be in it for the long haul. I totally get it. Ramona Shelburne ESPN NBA, insider, mama, MoMA. We love her mama. Thanks for making time. I we'll talk to you soon. You got it the Drake culture forever. See. All right. Coming up next. We're those good. Yeah, we're playing spelling bee the spelling bee yesterday we had an eight way tie. You get to compete against Ben here. The rules, three different categories. You can pick from MLB NBA, or NFL you compete against Ben, if you beat Ben best two out of three we're going to give you an ESPN LA goodie bag. So line it up now. Eight seven seven seven ten ESPN back in thirty in thirty three minutes back in three minutes. Hide Saddam show here on ESPN LA, Ben lines here. We got a short segment. So yesterday was the spelling bee. There was an eight wait tie because those kids were so damn smart that they went forever. They could have gone the whole damn night, eight wait. So ridiculous. So here's organ, do you're going to compete against Ben. If you if you beat Ben best two out of three okay? You're going to get an ESPN LA goodie bag. That's how we're going to do this. We're gonna play it at four thirty five thirty and six thirty in honor of the spelling bee the script spelling bee yesterday. And if you lose a photo wearing a Knicks hat in tweet me. Yeah. So what we're gonna do. I got I what we're gonna do is. And you get show. Here's the deal. We're going to get your three categories okay? You have NFL NBA or major league baseball. And you can pick those we're not, spilling terms or rules, these players these players names yet. These are players names, if you play a lot of fantasy you're going to be meanness probably, yeah. Probably will be the case, so we're going to start with let's see. Let's go with Rick in LA. Rigged your first, buddy, you're ready. Rick. I cho- pick a category, NFL fund, you give me some music like just something to play under you. Pick pick whatever category. NFL MLB or NBA. Let's go in avail. Okay. Hold on a second. Let me find NFL. Right. Hold on one second sorry lost the page. Alex trebek's job is safe. Yeah. For sure. I'd say Jack's job is safe. You're good short Sodano game show host. How about this, this one should be easy? You'd think running back. Devante freeman. Okay. Spell his name first and last. The. A. V. O. N. T. E. F. R E, E M. He in devante Freeman that would be incorrect. That would be the correct. You got that one wrong. Then I'll give you a chance to steal. Devante Freeman big little e apostrophe, big V, O, N, T E. Devante now for. Get out of here. All right. So there's that you want to try a lot. They do you want to try another category. Co NBA try via okay? Let's try NBA. Let's see. Now I'm gonna go with see see this one. I don't want to give those are Knicks players. So I feel like you'll know them. So let's try to go different low s e Arn, no. All right. Let's go with. Former UCLA Bruin, Luke Emba moot. Just go with the last name Imbaba a move. Okay. Ambaum. Muthu. Yeah. Yes. Being a. Eight. A. Oh. You know, hey. He got that is correct. Oh, Imbaba moutain got it. Got it. He offense but an Owen his name show, Ben, you get your chance NBA. So we're gonna go NBA. If you don't get this, you should be embarrassed already. Yeah. I Mario has own. Yeah. Oh. How do you spell the Brun stopper? See zone. Yeah. H. E. Z O, N J. That's correct. Right. So here is this is the last category. This is the last category. Goody goody, bag, Rick ready. Go pick up category. Let's stay NBA. All right. Dwayne wade. Can you repeat, that Dwayne Wade use it in a sentence? Swain way was the two thousand six finals MVP. Toby cheating, man. You gotta go. Yes. The way the W A Y. That's correct. That's correct. Sorry. Rick though, D Y. Yeah. Check to buy. So that's Ron. Let's try Ryan in Pasadena Ryan, what's up? Hey, what's going on rhyme? Why wouldn't you want? So you ready what, what category, you wanna pick NBA? Okay. And. Let me see if we've got somebody, and be a that would be good. Okay. Let's go with Frank. Nila. Kena. Knicks point guard. Frank, ntilikina. Yeah. Let's go with the last name. We know you know how to spell Frank. Okay, good. That an I L. Hi. No, no, go ahead, Ben. It's. T. R A, S, H, trash go good. And TI L, I K I N A the. And that's right. Yeah. You got. She graduated college know how to spill zone Nick Neil Akil. Okay. Go ahead. You got another category, though, Ryan, you could still win this the next to all right? Let's go NFL. Okay. NFL dumb. Akon sue. Go and. A. K a, you know, that's correct. Sorry, buddy. You wanna try one more to see if we can get a winner, because if not, we'll have to go back to five thirty. We'll try five there in Los Angeles can beat me in spelling. Fernando's you ready category? Yes. I'm ready NBA. Okay, NBA. Let's go with semi Osceola of the Boston Celtics, semi Odelay. That me all the only just go the last name Odelay. Odelay. Oh, three. Oh, zeno. Correct. Steel. OJ you w directive rocket. All right now, the next category Jose quickly. You could stick NBA, right? If you want. Okay. How about this? Philadelphia, seventy Sixers. Boba. Mariano vich. Yeah. It's a B. O B. A N, right. Marjanovic. M. A. R. J. A. N. O V. I C. Yeah. Right. Good job by you. So you get one more and you win a category. No NFL. Okay. NFL. Let's see if I can pick a good one in repa- for San Fernando. Let's go Jose. Yeah. Definitely. Let's see. I I'm just gonna ask you for the last name here. Former NFL pro bowler. From Cal nam the Asamoah quarterback. Dan? I've heard of them. Okay. Then that's fine. I'll give you another one. I'll give you another one. I'm the awesome. Okay. I'll give you another one. If you haven't heard of him, that's fine. I will do that. Let me see I let's do this married at Lincoln. Devante atoms wide receiver Green Bay spell. Devante adams. Allante atoms. The e. Now you got Iraq check, we'll play again at five thirty. We'll play again adviser. No winters in the first round of it. It's. I think it's easier said than done. I know hockey players shutters and Smith's. No. Well, you do a hockey, if you want all coming up next. We've got Ben at the movies and actually we have been in the movies. The movies what's coming up after that five fifteen Nick free del? We'll get a warriors report from Nick video, and then five thirty we'll go back to the spelling, bee back in four minutes here on this show on ESPN like three minutes, actually sit down a show here on. ESPN LA. That was fun. Even though you guys in win. We've got the ESPN LA goodie bags. We're doing again at five thirty. I'll is happy. I knew how to spell new Akina. I mean you did a good job on your squad. So you it would be disappointing if you didn't get it on a constant Wayne, right? As well. It's a commonly fell he did. I d y nos DWI DWI. Are they said DWI, I think it's no but it's not the way you're thinking is. Oh, it's DWI. Yeah. Yeah. Because needs farewell tour teams put it up wrong Jumbotron. Right. Yeah. George g e o r g George. Yes. Though I go home. Hey, Jay or J? So I real quick. We got a short segment here time for Ben at the movies funny. Gimme some music, they'll Hollywood, a lot of movies coming out. Summertime is basically here. We got five movies here. We're doing other five movies in the six o'clock hour. What do you got from here? I'm gonna give you this synopsis. You tell me and by the way, just for people who don't know, like Ben Lyons is Mr. movie really like you weren't in the Oscars. You work Golden Globes this year. Right. Golden globes. You also did a you're like on the biggest movie review show in the world. That's right. I was yes. It's lasted one year but you were. We're on the show, everything I cover everything. I don't know if people know that like you were on the biggest movie review show in the world in indication on television funny, and you deserve those kind of profs. No, let's get right through it. I'll give you this enough. This I'll tell you who's in the film when it's coming out. You tell me if you wanna go see it, you're going to spend your hard earned money take time away from the family and go check it out somewhere. We got ten films. Let's get right to it. All right. The first one opens on July twenty six it's about a faded television actor and stunt, double as they strive to achieve fame and success in the industry during the final years of Hollywood's golden age, the nineteen sixties. Are you going to go see this movie on July twenty six at stars? Leonardo Di Caprio. Brad Pitt Margot Robbie? Oh, that's the Tarantino film. Harshly yesterday during the finals again, the NBA finals becoming a launching pad for big summer movies to show their trailers. So once upon a time in Hollywood opens on July twenty six. All right. So you're gonna go see that. Yeah, I'm in. I'm in on any Tarantino movie this I now I don't wanna give away the title with this synopsis. But the, the stars of this film, they've always protected earth from the scum of the universe. And now in their latest adventure they tackle their biggest threat to date a mole in their organization. Will you go? See this film that opens June fourteenth with Tessa Thompson. Chris Hemsworth and Liam Neeson. Yeah. I'm not interested in men in black men in black international not interested. Now, I mean, I will what I will go to the movies to watch it. I'll watch it at some point. But I'm not going to the watchmen and black internet. It looks really bad and forced check a lot of boxes. And I don't see this one having legs or stick it. All right. Eighteen age explorer leads her friends on an adventure to save her parents and solve the mystery behind a city of loss gold written by Nick. Stoler who did the Muppets and get him to the Greek? And it also starts beneath the tour opens August ninth. Don't know the movie. What did you the movie I guarantee you, you go and see this, and I guarantee you probably see it multiple times Dora? And the lost city of gold, Dora the explorer, my daughter will be show into Donald's. All we can you might actually have to go in character. Yeah. I'll check it out. I'll check it out. My daughter's gonna want it. My five year old is going to be in on that, for sure. We'll definitely see that. All right. Here's okay. There's probably another cartoon movie. I'm sure at some point, this is this one is going to be the sleeper hit of the summer at a chance to see it at Sundance. It's set in the nineteen eighty s during the days of Margaret Thatcher's Britain, were a teenager in the suburb, learns to live his life, understand his family and find his own voice through the music of Bruce Springsteen same director into Chata as bend it like Beckham opens August fourteenth. Not no clue. What is it? It's called blinded by the light. Okay. True story of a Pakistani kid in this British suburbs. Who in the eighties became obsessed with Bruce Springsteen that sounds like something that will get nominated for an Oscar, though, totally? I it's rush Sunday indie film, right? Yeah. You feel great soundtrack. I will check that out. That's one of those rings scenes. All support gay the movie, one thing you need to know about me. I am. I will watch. This is how I get to the movies. Okay. It either tugs at my heartstrings like from my childhood. Right. So the occasional superhero movie will do that. Or like, you know, Star Wars Star Trek, even like those kind of things. And or if it's like Fru Fru high falutin, Oscar nam, I'll go check that out. That's me. I'm a snob. When it comes to that, I got one for you and other Sundance movie a young man searches for his home in the ever changing city of San Francisco, that seems to have left him behind with mostly unknowns. Except for Danny Glover and again out June. Seventh, dan. Glover don't know. But I mean on, Danny Glover already. So what, what is the title last black man in San Francisco? Oh. And it's one of the most beautiful movies I've ever seen really. It's produced by Brad Pitt in his company plan b the last black man in San Francisco opens, June, seventh and is going to be talked about all through awards show. That's opening this weekend. There you go. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Last next week. Yes, we can actually get next week on time for one more. Sure. Sure. Let's see. But Papa oh here we go. I think this might be maybe something bigger more mainstream ago. Vol, man, Lou cobs and outcasts decker Shaw form, an unlikely alliance when a cyber genetically enhanced villain threatens the future of humanity opens in August. With the rise. A furious. That's right. The fast areas, thanks. There's no chance odds and shows zero chance. I'm going elva as a cyber genetically saw the preview when I went to go see what movie did I see recently? Oh, the avengers movie when I went to see the avengers movie, I saw the previews, and I was laughing as I'm watching the preview, I'm like, but there is zero chance. I will go to the theatre to watch it as you know, I live my life, one quarter mile of time I will definitely be going to see Hobson Shaw. I'm so funches in for odds and Shaw. I think I will be by a Mardian baby. Plug in San Francisco. That sounds it. But that's something I'll wait for cable. It's gonna be nice. Nobody version who last Blackman Houston went straight to DVD on. I really when I when I go to of move because I want to wind. You're not to watch the last five minutes if I'm gonna watch it just not probably going to go to the theater guy. Support man. I would love this. I want your cocoa this most of these most of these movies that are up Foster's. I don't see a lot. I just don't bro. Just just. I'm not that guy. Everybody's talking about it seeing. It's culturally enough for me just show you there. Sean. Are we got a couple more? We'll do in the six o'clock this time of year summer movie season, all the Sundance counties is the best. We'll be what do you think? Robert Patterson is Ben man. Oh, let's get to that in trending. We'll do that in trending also in trendy. We've got more on Kevin Durant. There's an update their stick around for that. We're back in four and a half minutes here on ESPN LA. So down show here on ESPN LA one hour from now, Jeff Van Gundy, will stop buying chat with Ben and I saw Jeff Van Gundy, leader, great American. He's on Drake. He's I saw him today on the job. I want to get into that a little deeper with him. And obviously, we'll talk series with him Nick free del will join us in twenty minutes. Nick free del covers the warriors for ESPN just kind of get an update on. What's going on there with Nick and just kind of the state of the warriors right now real quick before we get to what's trending? There's a cool thing that's actually trending right now on actually, you know what? Let's just do it. Let's get get to try and do it because that's we'll do it live. Exactly. What's trending is brought to us by our friends at the dudes brewing company. With five tasting rooms in southern California, Torrance, Santa, Monica Santa Clarita, Huntington beach in Thousand Oaks to order beer from the source go to their website, the dudes brew dot com, so literally something that's trending right now on Twitter is a conversation that's being had about what was your first CD that you purchased up mine. I could tell you, I remember it vividly vanilla ice to the extreme nineteen ninety two the extreme rocked the mic like VIN. I q predator album, being eleven years old and having to hide it from my parents, do you remember your first CD, Mike, I don't man. But I think it is in that category, Jackson lethal injection for sure. But I remember that clearly but I don't think that was the first one hit me because I bought, I got someone to buy NWEA from me, but it was a cassette. It wasn't CD yet. But I rock tapes a lot longer because I did tapes in vinyl DJ in highschool. So and it CDs were expensive. They were expensive. So you could. Get tapes for wage way cheaper. And you couldn't really burn CDs back then. Yeah. Like you can't record because quote on one to one today. I was doing that all the time. Yeah. Yeah. So that's that's going on, on Twitter, who starts that. Steph gentlemen, from Bleacher report named David Gardner, and it just kind of has blown up, basically. Yeah. So next we go to some actual sports. Nick nurse is trending right now. Jackie macmullan. The great Jackie MacMullan did a story about his crazy unconventional journey to the NBA. I've been Nick nurse STAN as a funky and Mike. No, I have been talking about Nick nurse all season because I, I've had a number of games with Toronto this year. And I just find it to be super engaging. He had a lot to do with their win last night. I agree. I think I think he was great. Yeah. I mean his defensive strategies in the playoffs have been fantastic. But do you believe that someone like this? Right. Who has an unconventional path? Do you buy that players around the league will give him the respect because what ends up happening is if you aren't a guy who, like was an NBA guy like he wasn't he wa- he didn't come up to the general ranks came up through the G league coach in Europe, he coached all over the place. Do you believe that a guy like that can garner the respect that he deserved? I think. They're the most respected guys because I think NBA players recognized that their journeys in conventional and they respect the grind. They respect the hustle. And they realized that in order for you to make a name for yourself as a coach what you bringing to the table. If you don't have the legacy of a hall of fame playing career. Right. Most of the iconic players turn out to be lousy coaches, right? I the Jeff Van Gundy's in the grinders. Brad vice versa. The guy Scholtz weren't superstars are good coaches Ville. Jacksonville dryly Pat Ryan, they would just amateur. Runs a role player. So I think when you like let's say next year Vince Carter just wants to be a head coach. I don't know if that's going to work. I think you big of a superstar superstar to name and doesn't think players respect hard work, and whether it's in the media, whether it's a coach whether it's an announcer. They respect the grind and put it in your ten thousand hours, Nick nurse. I think there should be origin stories. Forget the avengers in all these superheroes, we're talking about there should be origin stories on the basketball coaches who aren't former players because they're packed to the league is always unique in in different next week. Go to Ben and Jerry's you what's your favorite, Ben, and Jerry flavor, by the way, you, give me chocolate peanut butter, anything fish food is pretty together. That's my favorite one fish. Have you ever had fish food? No fish. Food is chocolate ice cream with marshmallow in it and dark. Chocolate little like you know, you see, like the goldfish that you eat pepperidge farms. Well, they're like that size. But they're dark chocolate gold. I'm usually eating my fans from eating paramount. Moore's Sunday scared, gene. Nice cream. Yeah. If you've never had Ben and Jerry's fish for life role. Don't eat ice cream by herself. What do you mean? What do you have it with another person? Oh, I don't eat. I don't drink by yourself. Right. I don't subscribe to that. I screaming go into a salt and straw by myself, so weird look really. Let's go. I never see. I'm I'm a penalty hotdogs indoors. Yeah. I've never had a dog indoors now that I think I think about it, but here's the things like I'm a person who does a lot of stuff by myself, because I like being by myself. For example, my wife doesn't like movies, the only movie she likes are movies of books that she's read or she'll go to the cartoon movies because of my kids. But so I go to the movies alone all the time, like I. So I enjoy that. Like I'm okay eating alone. I remember the this sounds depressing going to the movies alone, and you're eating ice cream alone there that sounds like a really Dr cool with it. So I'll give you an example now. So the last time I went to the Super Bowl, we win as with the morning show me and Kia now z. And we all had we all had different. I mean l z, I think left at a different time I had the same flight, but I arrived at a restaurant didn't know that. Was there and Kiwis eating there by himself key? I've run into eating by himself eating alone. You got all the time I do it all the time, Jarrell eating ice cream alone going into an ice cream. Delineation here. What is their line of demarcation on his right about, then yes, it's not just. It's not just. Catch when you're eating ice cream alone when you're eating with other, what y'all far more I'm gonna put a sharing with other people. I'm gonna put up a poll, what's worse, drinking alone or eating ice cream alone is, that's, that's put up a poll. Okay. I'm putting up a bowl. I put up a poll. Let's keep it with what's trending. Who do you want to see play Batman here? The options, Robert Pattinson, not a British dude, Anthony Mackie's shot, the Mackey and Kobe, surprisingly covy one forty two percent. Wanna see Kobe play Batman, but Robert vans, and got thirty four percent through a lot of people hating on him. I'm a big fan. I always have been. Do you like the call? Robert Patterson is the next dark Knight. No. I, I mean I guess they're going young. Bruce, wayne. Right. Like that's kind of the point. I don't know. I mean that's, that's fine. I guess I didn't have the visceral reaction everyone else I wouldn't fund. She showed it to me the first time like almost two weeks ago to get it. But the born more, I think about it, like I don't like I wasn't i