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"deva lance" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

Crimes of Passion

08:24 min | 1 year ago

"deva lance" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

"According to family stories, Jim Vance felt sick that day from eating too much raccoon meet he told cap that he had no plans to run. He would stay in fight ordering cap to go find reinforcements as he fled. Jim tried to hold the men off. But he was shot in the arm while Jim Lee bleeding on the ground bad Frank strode over and shot him in the head. When cap reached his father's camp and told the men what had happened. They rallied a group to fight the Kentucky posse, but the two groups never met that day after killing Jim Vance bad Frank and the Kentucky posse went onto the home Valentine wall Hatfield and placed him under arrest. They escorted wall and five other Hatfield prisoners back to the jail and pike Ville Kentucky. Bad Frank planned another rate for January eighteenth eighteen eighty eight he brought thirty three men with him. This time the remaining hatfields where warrant of his arrival and they had prepared themselves for confrontation Deva Lance had refused to participate in the New Year's attack. But he felt compelled to defend his family in the wake of Jim Vance's death. He called on cousins neighbors and even to west Virginian lawmen to help the areas constable John Thompson and special deputy Bill Dempsey were evidently, not pleased with the way these Kentucky inns were invading their territory, they felt bound to protect their own citizens. Even those wanted for murder, the two groups clashed at grapevine creek about a mile east of the tug fork river near the home of cap Hatfield, the Hatfield spotted Jim McCoy, I he was carrying the gun. His brother Calvin had used the night. Of the New Year's massacre. Jim managed to hit special deputy Bill Dempsey with his first shot, the Hatfield scuttled for cover as more. Members of the Kentucky posse appeared. The hatfields returned fire. The Kentucky posse climbdown off their horses and dill behind a nearby stonewall from those positions the two groups fired on each other for over two hours. It became clear to the hatfields that they were outnumbered and they began to retreat Bill Dempsey injured by Jim McCoist shot but still alive try to crawl away bad Frank Phillips coldly placed the barrel of his gun against Dempsey's neck and blew his head off. None of the hatfields were captured that day, but they were stunned by the battle and by the casual cruelty of Frank Phillips. They were beginning to understand that Phillips was willing to go to any links done them down after the battle of grapevine creek devil. Anse sent a letter to the Winchester company in Massachusetts placing an order for ten thousand rounds of ammunition and twenty-five new Winchester, repeating rifles, which could be fired many times without reloading. These guns were an upgrade from the one shot rifles and muzzle loading guns. Many of the Hatfield had been carrying the shipment would arrive the following October if devil Anse couldn't beat the Kentucky inns a numbers, he could at least have superior firepower. The battle of grapevine creek didn't just alarm the hatfields for many residents of tuck fork. It invoked memories of the civil war the drama of the. Vent caught the attention of journalists who began to sink their teeth into the story. Many newspapers took sides in the feud by embellishing the indecency of one side or the other one report claimed without evidence that bad Frank Phillips, not only shot Bill Dempsey, but also picked his pockets after he died another reporter for the Pittsburgh times. Extolled the doggedness of Frank Phillips and express sympathy for the McCoy family, while labeling the hatfields as a cowardly gang band together for the purpose of murder, the hostility spread to the local and state politicians west Virginia's governor Wilson objected to the arrest of wall Hatfield and the others taken into custody. He claimed they had been taken without any legal process and unlawfully transferred across state lines. He demanded the prisoners be released Kentucky's governor Buckner refused by his reckoning. He wasn't under any obligation to release the men. He felt that once the prisoners were in his state's custody Kentucky had the right to try them for any crimes. They had committed within their jurisdiction. The matter went before a court and Louisville which determined that it did not have jurisdiction over controversy between two states. According to the US constitution only. The US supreme court had the power to decide such a dispute the supreme court heard the case on April twenty third eighteen eighty eight the court agreed with Kentucky that however the men had been brought into the state even if the manner of their capture was a legal. They could still be legally tried once they were in custody Kentucky was free to prosecute the men already behind bars. The ruling of the supreme court rattled the hatfields. It also Blida rated any expectation that the Justice system would treat them fairly to them. The actions of bad Frank Phillips amounted to kidnapping. The work of Janice Nadler, a research, professor of law and psychology showed that when people feel that they are treated fairly by the Justice system. They are less likely to reaffirmed in the future. Conversely, when people view the law as unjust. They are more likely to act out with criminal behavior. If the hatfields were comfortable evading the law before the supreme court decision only made them more defiant. In the summer of eighteen eighty eight. Rumors spread throughout the tug fork valley that dozens of bounty hunters were combing the mountains in search of hatfields cotton top mounts was caught by two detectives and taken into custody there. He joined wall Hatfield along with about a dozen other men indicted for feud related crimes the trial for the eighteen eighty two pom-pom murders began in August of eighteen eighty nine in an odd change of heart Perry Cline, decided to take up the legal defense of all Hatfield, some say, this was because wall offered him more money, which overruled claims friendship with McCoy's. Others say Perry was still loyal to the mccoys and his defensive wall was a sham. Perhaps the ladder theory was correct wall Hatfield was found guilty in his trial and given a life sentence. Wall was shocked by the decision. He was one of the few hatfields that had tried to temper some of the flames of the feud, and was sure he would be acquitted. He wasn't the only one bewildered by his trials outcome. Cotton top mounts had participated in both the Popol murders and the New Year's raid. But he hadn't planned them. He had just gone along with what Hatfield leaders had told him to do. He was described as easily influenced some historians have indicated that he may have had an intellectual handicap while in custody cotton top confessed to the New Year's raid. Murder of twenty nine year old ala fair McCoy some reporters speculated that he was bribed into doing. So one article suggested that cap Hatfield promise cotton top five hundred dollars a rifle and a new saddle if he would take the fall for the murder, the Hatfield seemed to hope that by making cotton top. Scapegoat. The rest of them would get off lightly. If cotton top was promised a small fortune in exchange for pleading guilty, he would never get to enjoy it following the trial of Allah fares murder. He was sentenced to be hanged. His execution was scheduled for February eighteenth eighteen ninety.

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"deva lance" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

Crimes of Passion

12:45 min | 1 year ago

"deva lance" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

"Cap wanted to stop his sister in law Nancy from leaking information, but as brutal as cap was he was apparently not willing to mess with Nancy McCoy Hatfield. She was described as a hell cat willing to kill any man who crossed her in law or not so cap steered clear of Nancy in targeted. Her sister. Mary who he believed to be the recipient of Nancy's leaks. One summer night cap in his hired hand, Tom Wallace dawned masks, and led a group of a dozen men to the house of Mary McCoy Daniels and her husband Bill Daniels. According to one account Bill Daniels was away that night, leaving his wife elderly mother and children alone cap and Tom Wallace entered the home and rip thirty five year old Mary out of bed. They dragged her to the fireplace and forced her to kneel in front of it. Cap had brought with him a cow tail mopped from one of his life stock and used it as a punishing lash. He whipped Mary across her back until she fainted, the men trudged out leaving Mary unconscious later, she identified Tom Wallace as one of the attackers from the distinctive white streak in his hair. Mary Nancy's brother Jeff McCoy soon heard about the attack this fourth child of Harmon McCoy. Oy. Hastily grabbed his gun and went to the home of Tom Wallace, Tom escape, Jeff's clutches and ran cap hatfields cabin as Tom hidden inside. Jeff trying to scare him out by shooting up the place. It didn't work, but it angered cap Hatfield unhappy to find his cabin riddled with bullet holes. A short time later cap and Tom went out in search of Jeff McCoy when Jeff realized they were looking for him. He led them on a chase through the woods. Jeff tried to swim across the tug for river. But as he reached the other side and began to climb up the Bank cap Hatfield Anton Wallace spotted him and fatally shot him in the back. The following spring of eighteen eighty seven Tom Wallace was discovered shot dead near his home in West Virginia. Most residents believed he was murdered by Jake and Mark McKoy the second and third children of harm in McCoy the McCoy brothers claim they had nothing to do with it. But they had been vocal about their grudge against Tom Wallace ever since the beating of their Sister, Mary and the death of their brother, Jeff this back and forth. Vigilantism seem like it might go on forever in eighteen eighty seven five years after the pom-pom murders sixty two year old Randolph McCoy still hope that the law would intervene to end the violence. Although with authorities had thus far been ineffective in bringing any hatfields into custody. Randolph still had an important ally. On his side, Perry Cline? Perry. Cline was a friend of the McCoy family with his own grudges against the hatfields. His sister Patty Klein McCoy was the widow of in McCoy, which meant that Mary Nancy Jeff lurk and Jake were his nieces and nephews he wasn't pleased about their repeated run ins with cap Hatfield. Not only that Perry. Cline was still nursing an even older resentment Perry had once been the neighbor of devil Anse Hatfield until Deva. Lance sued him for trespassing and took five thousand acres of his land. As a settlement Perry. Cline had moved at pike. Ville in the early eighteen seventies by eighteen eighty seven. He was thirty eight years old and had become a lawyer. And prominent democrat among Kentucky's political circles, it was an election year and a man named Simon Bolivar Buckner was a democratic candidate running for governor Perry Cline made Buckner an ally by. Promising to campaign for him in his part of the state Klein delivered and Buckner was inaugurated on August thirtieth eighteen eighty seven. Perry. Cline was quick to call in a return favor. He asked the governor to finally act on the Hatfield indictments Buckner agreed and issued a five hundred dollar bounty for each of the hatfields capture on September tenth. He contacted west Virginia's governor Willis Wilson and sent a formal request. For extradition of the men Wilson was slow to act so Buckner also appointed a friend of Klein's a deputy sheriff known as bad Frank Phillips to bring the men in twenty five year old bad Frank Phillips was described his graceful looking with a smooth hairless face and soft expressive is his delicate appearance. Led many to underestimate him in truth. He was a ruthless two nations bulldog of a man. Over the next few months bad. Frank led several raids into West Virginia in search of the indicted hatfields, the participants of the Paul Paul murder firing squad were forced into hiding. They couldn't stay in one place for more than a night or two out of fear of being caught. They lived like nomads moving around from the home of one relative to another and even camping in caves and ditches the hatfields knew that this life was unsustainable. Deva Lance even tried to bribe Perry Cline with two hundred and twenty five dollars to end his pursuit Perry Cline kept the money, but he didn't stop bad Frank from continuing his efforts. On New Year's Eve of eighteen eighty seven the hatfields had been invading bad Frank Phillips for three months and avoiding their indictments for five years. They seem resigned to the fact that they might soon be arrested and charged if they couldn't stop the raids they could at least eliminate any witnesses who might eventually testify against them that afternoon devil. Lance his sons cap and John C his nephew cotton top mounts, and a handful of others men in the home of Jim Vance. The held a council to make sure all the men were in agreement together they worked out a plan to murder sixty two year old Randolph McCoy and his family. Jim Vance seem especially vehement that it was time to end the feud once and for all in a final tidal wave of violence, his great nephew cap Hatfield was similarly eager. But some members of the family were having second thoughts. Thoughts. As soon as the sky grew dark. The men were ready to write off to the McCoy homestead if any of them felt unsure about their mission. Jim Vance had taken care of that. He had whipped them into a bloodthirsty frenzy. He blamed the mccoys for all the troubles eight had since Frank Phillips had started hunting them down. But devil Anse felt strange to his own surprise. He felt reluctant to go through with their plan. He wasn't a coward after everything he'd done. Nobody could accuse them of that. But he was tired every time he closed his eyes to go to sleep. He wondered if he'd wake up to find the barrel of a gun pointed at his face. This was all happening because he killed those McCoy boys in a fit of rage. Now uncle Jim wanted to finish off the rest of the McCoy, Ken. But what good would it do if anything it would only bring more indictments? On their heads. The men were ready to go loaded with guns feeling numb devil. Lance started to walk towards his horse. But then he stopped. He told the men that he was feeling ill. If they wanted to go ahead. They could he would even give them his best gun, but they would have to go on without him. Jim. Vance led a group of nine men across the tug fork river into Kentucky the temperature was freezing earlier that day. There had been a downpour, sleet. But the skies were now clear leaving the group with few obstacles essay road. The group's snuck up a hill leading to Randolph Sarah McCoy's modest cabin as a crept through the darkness. They crashed into a fence sending the post clattering down the hill, the group hastily retreated worried that the noise had warned the McCoy's of their approach after a quick discussion. They decided to call the attack that night. But Jim Vance insisted that they all return the following night January. I eighteen eighty eight in order to finish the job. Coming up. We'll talk about the New Year's day massacre and the aftermath now the conclusion to our story. After twenty years of bloodshed between the Hatfield and McCoy families, a group of Hatfield men decided to settle the feud once and for all led by sixty one year old Jim Vance the troop headed for the McCoy family farm on the night of January. I eighteen eighty eight on a mission to kill the whole family. Around ten thirty pm the men lined up in front of the farmhouse inside the large family slept Randolph McCoy his wife, Sarah as well as four of their children who still lived at home twenty five year old Calvin and his sisters twenty nine year old ala fair seventeen year old Adelaide and fourteen year old fanny and addition there were two small grandchildren Mel and Cora. They were the son and daughter of Tolbert McCoy left fatherless after the Paul Palmer's as the Hatfield mauled move forward. A dog began to bark the McCoy family woke up in alarm Randolph in Calvin grab their guns and began to fire at the doors. John C Hatfield took a bullet in his shoulder and cotton top mounts was shot in the arm. But this didn't stop the hatfields from returning fire. Jim. Vance took a match to a bag of cotton leaning against the house and the cabin began to burn. Allah, fair dashed outside to grab a bucket of water from the well to put out the fire as soon as she left the house cap Hatfield and cotton top mounts began to shoot Allah. Fair was struck in the chest. Her mother, Sarah, ignore the bullets flying in all directions and raced out of the house to Allah fair side, Jim van spotted her and ordered her back inside when she ignored him. He struck her with his gun barrel knocking her down and breaking two of her ribs. But Sarah kept moving forward now on her hands and knees crawling to Allah fair before she could reach your daughter Johnson Hatfield leapt Ford ambassador school with his pistol. She finally collapsed unconscious overwhelmed by smoke Randolph grabbed his grandson Mel and ran to a neighbor's barn Calvin tried to follow but was fatally shot in the head his sisters Adelaide and fanny. He managed to escape the burning house with Cora at that point the hatfields began to retreat smelling, the smoke neighbors arrived to help they carried the unconscious Serra McCoy to the home of her oldest son, Jim, but Allah fair was beyond helping she died on the ground or she had fallen the McCoy's buried their children, Allah Farren Calvin the following day afterwards Randolph wrote back to pike Ville to again, press Perry. Cline for help Klein intern advise bad Frank Phillips to double his efforts a few days later bad Frank planned, another raid into West Virginia. He took with him a twenty three men posse including several McCoy family members. The group discovered a trail of blood on the ground year Randolph McCoy's burnt out cabin bad. Frank had a hunch that the blood would lead to an injured Hatfield. So they followed the trail soon. They came across Jim Vance and cap Hatfield. Jim and cap dove behind some rocks as posse thunder toward them. According

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"deva lance" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

Crimes of Passion

11:08 min | 1 year ago

"deva lance" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

"Due to the graphic nature of these families crimes. Listener discretion is advised. This episode includes discussions of murder and violence that some people may find offensive we advise extreme caution for children under the age of thirteen. Cap Hatfield was certain about one thing some women gossip too much for their own good. Maybe it was harmless most of the time, but when his family was under attack. He couldn't abide loose lips someone in the Hatfield clan was spilling secrets cap suspected the culprit was his sister in law. Nancy after all, she was McCoy by blood. It was foolish to trust her. The question now was what to do about her bad behavior had to be punished. Cap. Thoughtfully stared at the wall. He saw the tail of a cow nail to the wooden logs of his cabin. He had chopped it off just to see the animal jump then hung up to dry cap. Rip the tail down and brandished it like a whip swishing it through the air, he smiled as a plan began to form in his mind. Those gossiping McCoy woman had. Earned a beating, and he would be the one to give it to them. Hi, I'm Laney Hobbs. And this is crimes of passion. Apar- cast original the legal definition of a crime of passion is a violent crime that occurs in the throes of extreme emotion, leaving no time to reflect on the consequences. But in this show, we explore passionate crimes, how does marriage progress from husband and wife to kill her and victim or killer and co-conspirator if there's a thin line between love and hate what manipulates our relationships and a deadly results at par cast. We're grateful for you our listeners you allow us to do what we love let us know how we're doing reach out on Facebook and Instagram at par cast and Twitter at podcast network. And if you enjoy today's episode the best way to help us is to leave a five star review wherever you're listening. It really does help us. We also now have merchandise had depar- cast dot com slash merch for more. Formation. Beginning in eighteen sixty five the hatfields of Logan county, West Virginia and the mccoys of pike county Kentucky or locked in a lethal feud that would entangle the families and bloody cycle of violence over the subsequent twenty six years. The trouble began with the death of thirty seven year old harm in McCoy. The former union soldier was killed in January of eighteen sixty five by confederate leaning militia group, led by devil, Anse Hatfield and his uncle Jim Vance in eighteen seventy eight thirteen years after Harman's murder, his older brother Randolph McCoy accused a Hatfield of stealing his hogs at the trial to determine the ownership of the animals a McCoy cousin named Bill. Stayton testified against family lines. The mccoys were so furious about this betrayal that two of Randolph's nephews shot and killed Bill. Stayton in eighteen eighty. That same year. Twenty one year old Roseanna McCoy fell in love with eighteen year old Johnny Hatfield. But after a brief affair that left Rosanna pregnant Jones, he jilted Rosanna to marry her cousin Nancy these events pushed the McCoy's to a breaking point on election day, August seventh of eighteen eighty two three of Randolph McCoy sons stabbed and shot confederate war hero and Baptist. Deacon? Ellison Hatfield after the brawl a posse led by devil Anse Hatfield grabbed the McCoy brothers. Tolbert farmer and bud and drag them to an old school house on the West Virginia side of the tug fork river there they waited to see whether Ellison Hatfield would survive his injuries. At three o'clock in the afternoon on Wednesday, August ninth eighteen eighty two forty year old Ellison Hatfield succumbed to his wounds word quickly got back to the old schoolhouse Sarah McCoy, the mother of the captive brothers had been holding vigil outside. But when the news came in the Hatfield mob, ordered her to leave devil Anse gathered twenty of his men, he instructed them to lead the McCoy prisoners outside at nightfall. They began their journey back into Kentucky the policy was primed for murder, but one Hatfield remained reticent. Valentine Hatfield nicknamed wall Deva, Lance is oldest brother and a Justice of the peace in west Virginia's Logan county. As wall. Hatfield tourists reach the edge of the tug fork river. He watched a group of men grab Tolbert farmer, and bud McCoy and hustle them towards the riverbank the rush of the river couldn't drown out the frantic pleas of the young McCoy, boys. Wall fell doubt creep in as he stared at their tear-streaked faces wall looked around. But none of the other Hatfield men seem to be affected. He couldn't help. But think of the McCoy boy's father Randolph who had gone onto bike Ville to find a lawyer to defend his sons Randolph had put his trust in the principles of law and order up until this moment wall had dedicated his life to those same values. Now, he felt ashamed at how easily he had let his anger sweep his principles away wall. Hurt is brother Deva Lance order. The posse to take the McCoy brothers across the river into Kentucky. The prisoners would soon be outside of walls jurisdiction and beyond his responsibility. But wall felt more burden than ever. Finally. He had to speak up wall told the posse to reconsider. He reminded them that the bible prohibited. Murder, but walls brother, never had much use for religion. Devon lands. Had always been stubborn even as a boy when he had his mind set on something trying to convince him otherwise only made him dig in harder. As wall, protested devil. Anse just stared at him coldly, then ordered his men to keep going wall thought of other please. But he couldn't seem to voice them. It seemed pointless to stand up against the inflamed passions of his kin. He kept silent. And let the men drag the McCoy prisoners away. With wall gone. The rest of the men fell in mind behind Deva lands following his instructions without question before it continue with the psychology. Please note, I am not a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist, but I have done a lot of research for this show. Rebecca Saxe and associate professor of cognitive neuroscience at MIT has conducted research on how a mob mentality can prompt individuals to ignore their own morals and commit acts. They would never have considered on their own in. Her study sacks measured the brain activity of people performing a competitive task both alone. And in a group when the participants of the study acted as a group the areas of their brains responsible for self reflection or less active than when they acted alone. They were there for less capable of applying their usual standards of conduct wall Hatfield was able to overcome mob mentality, but the rest of his kin gave into it. After the group crossed the tug. Fork river the posse founded ditch not far from the riverbank a smattering of broadly Papa trees grew within this hollow the Hatfield mob tied the mccoys to the pawpaw trunks. According to witnesses Tober McCoy remained impassive. He said, I want the man who kills me to stand right before my eyes. I want to look him right in the eye ignoring Tolbert's request the hatfields tied him to the tree backwards. So that he wouldn't be able to face his executioner farmer and bud didn't make any final requests. They only sobbed. The firing squad included devil Anse and his sons twenty year old Johnny eighteen-year-old cap and fifteen year old Bob they were joined by several family members and friends, including a man named Ellison mounts known as cotton top due to his white blonde hair. Cotton top was the twenty four year old illegitimate son of Ellison Hatfield, whose death the men were now avenging cotton tops at an later account that a half field ally hung lanterns over the heads of the McCoy brothers. So that the posse would know where to aim moments later the firing squad unleashed a torrent of gunfire. The blast echoed through the mountains. Jim McCoy the oldest of Randolph McCoy sons was still awake that night. His mother Sarah had convinced him to stay away from the trouble because she didn't want another one of her sons to risk his life by getting involved. Jim was restlessly sitting on the front porch of a family friend's house? Waiting for any news to come in? When he heard the shots. He knew what those shots meant. But he hoped his intuition was wrong. He said out into the now silent woods when he came to the palm. Ditch. The hatfill posse was gone, but the bodies of his three brothers remained. The next morning Randolph McCoy returned home from pike Ville, having secured bail and legal representation for his sons only to learn he was too late. The McCoy's called on neighbors to help them retrieve the three bodies and bring them home. They were buried that day. August eleventh eighteen eighty two. Fifty-seven-year-old Randolph McCoy was ready to put together his own Lynch mob, but his wife Sarah convinced him, not to retaliate. She couldn't bear the thought of more killing Randolph relented, but the matter wasn't over the same day his sons were buried Randolph road to the town of pike Bill Kentucky to speak with the county. Prosecutors about filing indictments against his son's killers a month. After the funeral a Kentucky grand jury raw charges against devil lands. His brother wall, his sons, John and cap and sixteen other men for murder.

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"deva lance" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

Crimes of Passion

13:46 min | 1 year ago

"deva lance" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

"And spend the evening together. As nights set in and passion, abated Rosanna grew freed. She didn't want to return, home and face. Her father Johnson agreed to take her to the Hatfield home. He promised that he would marry her and that everything would be all right, Dev. Lance Hatfield didn't mind having Rosanna stay with the family. But by most accounts, he strongly objected to a son marrying a McCoy. Meanwhile, Randolph McCoy was furious. He sent Rosanna several messages demanding that she returned home Rosanna refused holding out hope that John would marry her. But he didn't either he wouldn't defy his father or he didn't want to be tied down after a few months. Rosanna finally left the Hatfield homestead and return to her family by that time, she was pregnant being pregnant and unmarried wasn't the end of the world. Puritanism didn't run as deep in the southern mountains as it did in the northeastern part of the country. There weren't many churches in the undeveloped wilderness of Kentucky and West Virginia. And it wasn't uncommon for couples to start a life together before they had a chance to make it to the alter the community might not have judged Rosanna. Unfortunately. Her father did Randolph kicked her out of the house. She moved in with a widowed aunt about half a mile up the river, although Johnny Hatfield didn't marry Rosanna. He still wanted to see her. The couple continued to meet secretly in the woods when Randolph heard about this. He sent his sons Tolbert farmer and Jim to put a stop to it. Roseanne has brothers were all too happy to interrupt the couple's clandestine. Rendezvous Tolbert had gotten himself deputized and he arrested Johnny for carrying a concealed weapon. It was a dubious charge given that most men of the area never left the house without a firearm. But the McCoy's didn't care they carry Johnny off intending to take him to the pike. Ville jail Rosanna was terrified that her brothers might kill jonky. She ran to the nearby farm of her neighbor and cousin Tom staffer. Heard. She borrowed a horse and race Bareback to the hatfields farm where she called on devil. Lance to rescue his son. Deva? Lance gathered up a posse of Hatfield brothers sons and nephews the group use shortcuts to intercept the McCoy's on the road to bike Ville, outnumbered. Rosanna 's brothers were forced to give up their captive relations between Rosanna and John C soured soon after. In the spring of eighteen eighty one he began to pursue a different McCoy Rosanna sixteen year old cousin Nancy unlike Rosanna Nancy didn't have a father to criticize the match. She was the daughter of harm in McCoy the union soldier who had been murdered by the Logan. Wildcats in eighteen sixty five not long before Nancy was born Nancy's mother, Patty, however did oppose the marriage as the wife of in McCoy and sister of Perry Cline. She had more reason than anyone to hate the hatfields. The Nancy was a headstrong girl and she married John C in may of eighteen eighty one without her mother's approval that seems spring Rosanna gave birth to her baby. A daughter named Sarah, Elizabeth tragically the infant died after contracting measles. Than pneumonia. At just eight months old for months afterward Rosanna would spend hours each day sitting by the baby's grave. She would never have any more children, and she would never marry. This time of grief was also a time of relative calm between the families. But by the next election day on August eighth. Eighteen eighty two tempers flared once again. As they had done two years prior dozens of members of the Hatfield and McCoy families gathered at the polling grounds, and blackberry district. Everyone seemed to be in high spirits, Tom Stafford who had family connections to both the hatfields and the mccoys was on the ballot. That day folks were eager to support him, many of them accordingly were also relieved to discover that the most despised members of the Hatfield clan had stayed home, including devil, Lance and his son Johnny the mccoys had every reason to enjoy the festivities but Randolph McCoy's twenty eight year old son Tolbert was in a dark mood. Tolbert was described as one of the most hot tempered members of the McCoy family. He became particularly angry when he drink that day alcohol was flowing freely. Apple jack. And corn liquor. There may have also been a genetic basis for Tolbert's frequent bouts of fury. Many modern day descendants of the McCoy family have been diagnosed with on hippo endow disease. This rare genetic disorder causes tumors in the adrenal gland, which can then cause the body to produce excess adrenaline if Randolph son suffered from the same disease. They may have been frequently overloaded with fight or flight hormones and easily provoked a trivial thing set Tolbert off he accused a Hatfield relative of owing him money for fiddle. He'd sold him the men began to argue Ellison Hatfield arrived to stop the fight. Ellison. The well liked confederate war hero back to St. gin and respectable brother of devil. Aunts might have been successful. But the mccoys were still angry at Ellison specifically for. For testifying against squirrel, hunting Sam and Paris McCoy in their trial for murdering Bill Stayton. Of course, they were also still angry at all the hatfields collectively for Johnny Hatfield treatment of Rosanna and his seduction of Nancy for fully tat fields victory in the hog trial for devil lances possession of Perry clients property and for the Logan Wildcats murder of in McCoy, according to some accounts. Ellison try to defuse the situation with humor he took off his straw hat and offered it Tolbert in lieu of the price for the fiddle. He said that it would at least give Tolbert something feed. Cows humorless. Tolbert shouted back. I'm hell on earth. Ellison replied, your damn hog Tolbert's pride could not withstand. One more insult. He pulled out his Jack knife and stabbed Ellison through the ribs. Ellison was hurt. But. He managed to pull out his own blade and slashed at Tolbert's head. The knife glanced across Tolbert's ear at that point. Ellison lost his grip on the knife. He began attacking with his fists. He was bigger than Tolbert and would have had a good chance of overpowering him in a fair fight. But Tolbert still had his knife. Tolbert began to stab Ellison again. And again. Tolbert's brother Bill McCoy briefly entered the fray to stab Ellison with his own blade, then he ran off into the woods Tolbert. Kept stabbing and one of the blows Pierce through Ellison stomach puncturing his liver. Ellison Hatfield desperately grasped in nearby rock and lifted it up and tending to bash Tolbert's goal at that point another McCoy brother farmer grabbed a pistol and shot Ellison in the back. Ellison went still as he collapsed. He muttered I'm shot and shot for dead. Tolbert suddenly came to a census he dropped his weapon as a number of angry Hatfield, surrounded him and farmer. The also grabbed eighteen year old bud McCoy who hadn't even joined his brothers in the fight. Perhaps. They mistook him for his older brother Bill who had jabbed Ellison with his pocket knife before disappearing into the woods the rest of the hatfields fashioned stretcher out of an old blanket and used it to carry the badly wounded Ellison Hatfield to a nearby house to receive medical attention preacher, Anse, Hatfield, the blackberry district. Justice of the peace instructed, a pair of constables to take Tolbert farmer and bud McCoy to the pike Ville jail Randolph McCoy, accompanied them. Anticipating he'd need to hire a lawyer for his sons defense. It was a twenty five mile journey and dangerous to travel the narrow ridges and mountain paths after dark so the party stopped to rest for the night before continuing the journey the next morning by then Deva, Lance had heard what happened to his brother. Ellison. He went to Kentucky at daybreak where Ellison was still clinging to his life despite the twenty six knife wounds and one bullet hole that martis torso Deva, Lance, then gathered up all the hatfields and family supporters. He could they set off to find the constables transferring the McCoy's to prison devil, lances older brother wall Hatfield found them. I he explained to Randolph McCoy and the constables that he wanted them to return to the blackberry district. He felt that as a practical matter the charges should be brought in the district where the crime had taken place. Whoa. Wall was about to take custody over the men when devil. Lance arrived with his posse. Wall had been trying to act as the rational law man, but Ellison was his brother to when devil Anse commanded all hatfields to fall in mine while relented and let devil Anse take charge. They loaded the prisoners onto a corn sled. Terrified for his sons Randolph McCoy took off for pike Ville, still hopeful that he might find a lawyer there to assist them. Devil. Lance and his posse drag the prisoners across the tug fork river into West Virginia and marched them to an empty ramshackle schoolhouse a mile from the river Bank. They waited their guns pointed at the three McCoy brothers as messengers wind back and forth to get updates on Ellison hatfields condition. Bud McCoy shivered and terror. He was only eighteen he barely understood why he was supposed to hate the hatfields. He hadn't even participated in the stabbing or shooting of Ellison Hatfield. It had been his brother's Tolbert farmer and Bill he knew that devil. Aunts had sons of his own some about buds age. He prayed that the old Hatfield patriarch which show him some mercy. But as he listened to the Hatfield joke about lynching and speculate about the most painful place to shoot a prisoner. He began to lose hope than mercy was on anyone's mind daylight was fading eerie shadows filled the schoolhouse, but tried to choke back his rising panic he heard someone approaching from outside. He looked fearfully up as the door. Swung open to. His astonishment. He saw his mother Sarah McCoy standing in the entryway, she looked more terrified than he felt Fifty-three-year-old Serra McCoy had come to Bank for the lives of her sons. She had brought Tolbert's wife Mary and their four month old baby Cora with her the women drop to their knees and front of Deva, Lance and wall, the pleaded with the hatfields to release their kin Sarah didn't try to excuse her son's attack on Ellison Hatfield, but she argued that they should be tried a affair court of law. According to witnesses devil. Anse was unmoved by the women's attempts to reason with him. He simply told them you needn't beg, and you needn't cry if Ellison dies, you boys has got to die. Thanks

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"deva lance" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

Crimes of Passion

13:42 min | 1 year ago

"deva lance" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

"Today. Codenames deception gadgets. It might seem like something out of the movies. But these are just some of the essential components of being a spy most spies. Don't stand out like characters JAMES BOND and eat and hunt. They are ordinary forgettable people, which makes them all the more dangerous. So what does it really take to be a spy every week espionage a new park. Cast original explores this high stakes world in analyzes the missions behind the world's most incredible spies, and how these covert operations succeeded or failed. Find out the real world's by tactics required to impersonate, exploit an infiltrate the most confidential places in the world, you'll be shocked by the episode on Larry chin one of the CIA's top Chinese linguists. Who was also China's top spy for over thirty years and you'll be in spy. Fired by Virginia hall who despite losing part of her leg, organize sabotage missions against German army and helped allied soldiers escape during World War Two search for in subscribe to espionage wherever you listen to podcasts again, search espionage or visit park has dot com slash espionage till listen now. Now back to this crime of passion. The happy McCoy viewed was ignited in eighteen sixty five with the death of thirty seven year old harm in McCoy. He was likely killed by a thirty three year old man named Jim Vance a confederate sympathizer who was angry about Harmon service with the union army. Vance may have had help from his nephew twenty six year old devil Anse Hatfield Harman's older brother Randolph McCoy did not initially seek retaliation. He may have had too many other worries to pursue vengeance tending to his wife and sixteen children. But it was the first slight and what would become an avalanche of grudges Randolph McCoy descended from some of the original pioneers of tug fork valley, but Randolph's father had to sell off their family farm in order to pay various fines and debts therefore Randolph inherited no land from his father. He and his wife, Sarah. Lived in a tiny cabin in the blackberry district of Kentucky about two miles south of the tug fork river, they had very little land and had almost nothing to pass down to their children research conducted by scientists Paul Tiffen Mark s Pierce and Louise Parker show that men who have gone through a downward social trajectory experienced significantly, greater mental health issues than men who social status remains the same over time. The loss of status often gives rise to feelings of shame and distrust, according to Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett for Randolph McCoy the daily struggles of poverty, only added to the usual stresses of trying to raise a large family in the harsh wilderness of the mountains. In the late eighteen hundreds Appalachia, many families survival depended on the success of their small-scale farming and hurting opperations Randolph. Mccoy's family was no different. Raising. Hogs was critical to their livelihood. A single four hundred pound animal might make the difference between getting through the winter and starving to death. Therefore farmers took their hogs very seriously a Kentucky circuit court judge noted that he'd convicted more men for stealing hogs than for murder. In September of eighteen seventy eight fifty two year old Randolph was pending his hog. So that he could castrate the piglets in the middle of his work. A Sal broke through the fence and ran off with six of her piglets Randolph. Let her go the hongs or territorial animals and didn't often stray far from home. But when they hadn't returned by that winter Randolph mounted a search. He was confident he would be able to recognize the sow if he found her farmers Mark their hogs by cutting notches into the animal's ears. Each armor had his own distinct Marc Randolph track the hog to the farm of his nephew, Tom Stafford Stafford didn't know who the hogs belong to. But he had been keeping them penned up with his own pigs until the owner came forward since it was nearly night. Randolph didn't want to go through the trouble of dragging the hogs back home in the dark. He knocked on Tom's door. Four and let his nephew. No that he'd come to retrieve them the next morning. But not long after Randolph left. Another man Floyd Hatfield showed up at Tom's door. Twenty nine year old Floyd was a cousin of devil Anse Hatfield. He also happened to be Tom Stafford's brother-in-law. He claimed that a few of his hogs had crossed over the frozen tug fork river and had gotten stranded on Tom's property. Tom worn Floyd that Randolph McCoy claimed ownership over those same hogs Floyd didn't listen, he rounded up the livestock and herded them across the river to his farm. When Randolph heard about this the following day. He was furious. He immediately went to confront Floyd the men checked the hogs ears, but the brands were so scuffed up and scarred over nobody could tell who's marks. They were Floyd Hatfield kept possession of the hongs, but Randolph McCoy promised that the matter was an over Randolph took his claim to another Hatfield cousin confusingly also named Anse Hatfield this cousin went by the name preacher ants in contrast to Deva, Lance, although he was a Hatfield by name and blood year old preacher. Aunts lived in the same district as Randolph McCoy on the Kentucky side of the tug. Fork river rather than the West Virginia side, more most of the other hatfields, resided preacher. Anse led the congregation of the old pond creek Baptist church where both hatfields and McCoy. As went to worship, he was seen as a neutral party among the families and as a Justice of the peace. He was also accepted by both families as a qualified arbiter over the hog conflict. Preacher aunts organized. A hearing his log cabin farmers from all over tug. Fork valley came to see the disagreement playout preacher Anse called for everyone to cast their weapons aside. The men grudgingly laid their rifles and pistols against the wall and the trial began testimony went as everyone expected with the McCoy witnesses swearing that the hog belonged to Randolph McCoy, and the Hatfield witnesses insisting that it was Floyd's one witness deviated from family lines Bill Stayton Stayton was a cousin of Randolph McCoy. But his sister was married to Ellison Hatfield. Ellison Hatfield wasn't just statements brother-in-law. They were best friends state and testified that he had personally watched Floyd brand the hog in question. The mccoys were furious Randolph. Mccoy's nephew Paris called. Stayton a damned liar. But Stayton stuck to his testimony. Once the witnesses were through it was time for the jury to come to a decision preacher. Ants was determined to be impartial. He had selected a jury of six men with Hatfield affiliations and six men from the McCoy clan. Perhaps he felt that if the trial ended in a hung jury, the men might both feel vindicated and let the matter drop with no hard feelings, but predicting jury loyalties crew to be an impossible task one of the jurors Selkirk McCoy was yet another cousin of Randolph McCoy, but he had served in the confederate army with devil Anse Hatfield and he worked on devil answers timber crew with Selkirk joining in with the hatfields the jury turned in a verdict of seven to five against Randolph McCoy. The McCoy's were astonished and infuriated Randolph cursed the verdict, but his wife Sarah convinced her husband to accept the outcome. Although he growled about the injustice Randolph allowed Floyd to take home the prize tog the feud could have stopped there in its tracks. But Randolph McCoy had nine sons and countless nephews who did not have Randolph's passive temperament to them. The verdict wasn't just about a stolen pig. It was a matter of family, honour and betrayal. Harvard Medical School psychiatrist James Gilligan spent several years as the medical director for the Massachusetts prison system. He wrote that the inmates violent acts were nearly always triggered by a recent humiliation. The men used violence as a way to recover their pride after a loss of face. The aftermath of the hog trial showed that the mccoys were determined to punish the Hatfield for injury to their egos from then on flare ups of violence between the families became a regular occurrence, the mccoys directed most of their IRA at Bill Stayton who had sided with his Hatfield inlaws over his cousin Randolph McCoy after the trial state and try to steer clear of his angry relations by staying on the West Virginia side of the tug fork river, but run ins were unavoidable one autumn afternoon. Bill Stayton was hunting deer in the woods with Ellison Hatfield. Ellison like his brother Deva, Lance was a confederate veteran locally hailed as a war hero. Unlike Deva, Lance Ellison had a reputation for being even tempered and fair-minded. He was a deacon in preacher answers Baptist church. And he was known as the peacekeeper. Ever of the Hatfield family. The men came upon to McCoy brothers, Paris and squirrel hunting Sam the McCoy's bristled when they saw Bill Stayton remembering his traitorous testimony at the hug trial squirrel hunting Sam aimed his rifle and shot the gun right out of Bill statements hands then he dropped his own gun and threw himself at his cousin. They scuffled on the ground until Ellison Hatfield, pull them apart and shoved squirrel hunting Sam away the men separated without any serious injury that day, but the next few months were punctuated with similar skirmishes on June eighteen eighteen eighty Paris in squirrel hunting Sam again, cross paths with Bill Stayton in the woods. This time. Stayton was alone. There are several different accounts of what followed on that day. According to McCoy historians. Bill Stayton saw Perez and Sam I and he ambushed them shooting Paris through the hip. Paris felt the bullet ripped through the flesh of his hip, and he snarled in surprise and pain. He turned to see Bill statement barreling towards him acting on pure instinct, Paris raised his own gun and fired back hitting Stayton in the chest. Paris's Pull's raised as he watched the blood spurt from the man's wound. But Stayton wasn't stopping he lumbered toward Paris and began to pummel him with his fists. Paris drew up his arms grabbing Bill by the shoulders as he stumbled backward. He clot at Bill drawing. Blood Bill, Baird his teeth rabid suddenly Bill lunched forward and tore at Paris's jugular vein with his teeth. Paris began to panic. He felt sticky blood pooling at his caller, he gripped. The other man's jaws and tried to pry him loose Paris church. Nd his desperate is towards his brother squirrel hunting. Sam who watched the fight from a few feet away. Harris couldn't speak. He couldn't manage to do anything. But grunt regardless. Sam got the message and raise his pistol. Sam wasn't nickname squirrel hunting Sam for nothing. He had an aim so sharp he could pick squirrels out of trees as they leapt from limb to limb now he was aiming at a larger target with one shot from SAM's gun. A bullet pierced Bill state and skull Peres felt bills body jerk against him, then go limp. Paris breathe a sigh of relief Bill Stayton had finally gotten. What was coming to him?

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"deva lance" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

Crimes of Passion

13:24 min | 1 year ago

"deva lance" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

"One. West Virginia remained part of the union. But dental lances loyalties, evidently, did not align with the state wants to civil war started the twenty three year old enlisted in the confederate army and served as first Lieutenant and the forty fifth battalion Virginia infantry in eighteen sixty three as it became clear that the confederacy would lose the war Deva, Lance deserted the army and returned to tuck fork or he formed a militia group with his uncle Jim Vance, they call themselves the Logan Wildcats the group rove through the mountains on horseback. Meeting out vigilante Justice and attacking union sympathizers throughout the area. One such sympathizer was thirty seven year old harm in McCoy brother tweet eventual futa Sgt Randolph McCoy. Harman lived on the Kentucky side of the tug. Fork river Kentucky citizens were divided during the civil war. But the majority of men fought for the union including Harmon despite being a former slave owner. He served in the union army's thirty ninth Kentucky mounted infantry regiment until he was honorably discharged in December of eighteen sixty four. On his journey back to tug fork Harmon encountered Jim Vance on the road as Harmon past him. Jim Vance sneered and warned him that Deva Lance and the Logan Wildcats were gunning for him. Vance had recently lost his brother in the civil war. He was looking for someone to blame and Harmon represented a convenient target the Logan. Wildcats may have also carried a previous grudge from his allegiance to another of their vigilante targets union general William Francis. In fact, some historians of the feud site Williams murder at the hands of the Wildcats in eighteen sixty three as the true beginning of the conflict. A few days after receiving Vance's threat Harmon went out to his yard to fetch water from the well he heard a shot and felt a bullet with past him. He crashed to the ground and crept back into the house. His wife Patti urged him to go into hiding for a few days to give bitter prejudices time to heal Harman. Agreed. He gathered supplies ammunition and provisions and set out into the frigid cold. He set up camp in a cave about a mile from his home. The logan. Wildcats did not give up their pursuit of Harmon. According to some accounts, they followed footprints left in the snow by his thirteen year old daughter Mary who had gone to warn her father that the Wildcats more patrolling the area. Other counts see that. The Wildcats followed the footprints of the McCoy family's. Former slave Pete who had gone to replenish Harman's food supply in any case on January seventh eighteen sixty five below gone Wildcats tracked harm in McCoy to his cave hideout. Armand through the blanket office body and began to massage his aching leg, which he had fractured in the war the bones had healed, but the pain lingered, especially in the cold. He didn't need a reminder of the battlefield. He felt as if the war had followed him home, even here he might be surrounded by the enemy at any moment. His breath rattled on top of everything else. He was coming down with pneumonia. He longed for the warmth of his bed and his wife as he mold over the risks of returning home. He heard footsteps outside Harmon froze he raised his rifle and limped towards the mouth of the cave. He hoped he could sneak out before his pursuers found him, but as he stepped outside he heard a crack of a rifle Pierce hair and felt a powerful blow to his chest knocking. Off-balance? He looked down to see blood spilling from an open bullet wound as he died Harmon thought of his five children and his wife Patty who was pregnant with their six. He had come home so eager to see his family and restore the bond weakened by his absence during the war. But now he would never have the chance. Later Patty found her husband's body draped over the long of a fallen tree. Most residents of tug fork believe Jim Vance had murdered him. They were also suspicious of gyms nephew Deva, Lance as the two men led the Logan Wildcats together, but devil Anse claim to be home in bed at the time. Harmon was murdered despite the suspicions. Nobody was ever charged for Harman's murder except for the perpetrators. There were no witnesses and no physical evidence. Linking anyone to the debt? Some historians. Claim that Harman's neighbors ignored the crime because they felt that the union sympathizer. God what he deserved. But the reality seems more complicated before a continued with the psychology. Please note that I am not a license. I kinda tryst or psychologist, but I have done a lot of research for this episode. Many of harm and McCoy's. Neighbors also served in the union army, even some members of devil Anse Hatfield family, according to civil war historian. Eric T dean, some of these returning veterans were suffering from severe PTSD apathy and emotional numbness in maybe that people were horrified by Harman's death. But also too overwhelmed to seek Justice at that point the war had already claimed hundreds of thousands of lives the community was traumatized by the constant guerrilla warfare tactics of militia groups, like the Logan Wildcats and the retaliations from the union army. That winter the war was finally winding down. Nobody wanted to dwell on another death. They were ready to move on. However, the tension between the Hatfield and McCoy families did not disappear over the next few years. Various members of the families took each other to court over small infractions such as trespassing or destroying beehives. But for a while they were content to let the legal system handle their problems instead of resorting to violence. When the civil war ended in the spring of eighteen sixty five twenty five year old devil aunts settled down with his wife will vic- and resumed a life of hunting farming timbering and distilling whisky family responsibilities. Kept devil. Anse busy in the years. After the civil war by eighteen sixty nine thirty year old aunts and his wife live. Icy already had four children and would go on to have nine more. As Deva lands face. The challenges of fatherhood. He didn't have much outside support his own father, e from Hatfield gave five of his other sons attractive land when they reached adulthood, but due to some unknown grudge. He refused to give any land to Deva lands devil lances strained relationship with his father may have contributed to his prideful combative nature in a time. When land ownership was one of the MO. Most potent symbols of a man's worth devil. Lance had to make do with the small plot. His wife had received from her father Deva, Lance was especially frustrated to have so little land because his closest neighbor Perry. Cline had so much. N B is one of the most basic human emotions, but it is often driven by more complicated. Feelings of inferiority and exile. Eighty one a man perceives himself to be less well off than people around him. He is more likely to feel shame and stress about his status, Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett experts in the field of public health have linked these anxieties to higher levels of violence and delinquency Perry. Cline was about a decade younger than devil. Lance Perry's parents died when he was just nine years old any ad inherited five thousand acres of land from his father, according to the Klein, family devil, Anse regularly trespassed on Perry's land to steal timber, but the official property boundaries were murky and devil Anse claimed. He had a right to be there around eighteen seventy Perry Klein agreed to sell devil Anse some of his land perhaps in an effort to resolve any animosity between them, although the trade was not recorded devil. Anse immed-. Took possession of the land even moving into the cleanses. Former homestead soon after devil Anse came across Perry. Cline timbering on the land. He had just purchased. There may have been some confusion over precisely which acres Perry. Cline had agreed to sell to Deva, Lance. But instead of chalking it up to an innocent misunderstanding devil Anse decided take Perry. Cline to court for trespassing. The men settled out of court, according to the terms of the settlement Perry Klein agreed to give all five thousand acres of his land to devil Anse. It's not clear why Perry Klein agreed to such a harsh penalty for such a small offense. But his writing suggests that he felt intimidated into doing. So after the settlement Perry Cline slunk away to the nearby town of pike Ville with this victory. Deva Lance became one of the largest landholders and tuck fork valley devil lances behavior. Ruffled a few feathers and tug fork Perry's father had been a wealthy and influential person in the region. Many residents were sympathetic to the Klein's especially Randolph McCoy who live just across the tug. Fork river on the Kentucky side of the valley. Born in eighteen twenty five forty five year old Randolph McCoy had one thing in common with devil. Anse? He had not inherited any land from his father. Instead, he lived on a small farm that had been passed down to his wife. Sarah, unlike devil ans- Randolph McCoy refused to bully his way into greater land ownership such behavior was a coroner to him. His wife Sarah was a devout Christian and menacing tactics. Didn't come naturally to him. He was known to be more of a sour old gossip than a ruffian, even if Randolph had been inclined to take someone else's land. He wouldn't have targeted Perry Klein with whom he shared close family ties several of Perry. Klein's siblings had married. Mccoy's. In fact, Perry sister Patty was the widow of the murdered harm in McCoy the injustice to Perry. Cline was. Yeah. Another insult added to the injury of Harman's death and soon these insults would be too much for Randolph McCoy to bear. Coming up. We'll see how Randolph McCoy's grudge against the hatfields pushed the families towards an inevitable confrontation. Do you like puzzles if so I have a great mobile puzzle game for you? It's called best fiends, and it's my new favorite game. It's about the world of my new show, and it's cute courageous inhabitants. There are thousands of fun puzzles to solve and tons of cute characters to collect I found myself playing best fiends a lot after work as a way to unwind after a long day. 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"deva lance" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

Timesuck with Dan Cummins

04:12 min | 2 years ago

"deva lance" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

"What for how you've been wronged because ancestors of yours died with your last name McCoy, I'm guessing over one hundred years before you were born you forgive people who kill them who also died in all likelihood over one hundred years before you report the feud was over in eighteen ninety one hundred twenty eight years ago. I just it's always annoyed me when people try to glommed onto tragedy that I don't feel. They have any ownership in right like like nine eleven terrible tragedy. But there was people who I feel like went way out of their way to get a tension for themselves when they weren't real related to anybody who died they weren't related to anybody who is related to somebody who died didn't know anybody who. Known anybody who knew somebody that died, and it just felt like like look at me. Look, how sad I am look at how much of a caring person. I am. Yeah. I just never be close friends with somebody that melodramatic. What's what's going on Brooklyn? Why are you crying? Why are you set? I am. So. That. I just I read I just read about the black plague. Very tree in some of my grandparents died horrible deaths every day. They your your grandparents died in the black plague. My great, great, great, great grey, laid fifty more Greg Graham. Yeah. I'm gonna grab my shit now and fucking leave and never talk to you yet have a nice life drama Queen eight percent of the posts on this thread are of someone leading the rest of the commenters know that they are either related to the Hatfield mccoys. Just a lot of comments of I'm Hatfield, I'm McCoy, which is why I think Chris official wins the section of today of the internet today when they post simply I'm not related played Chris if you see it in the in the threat, it's so great. It's like twenty comments just like, I'm really to this. And finally someone's like, I'm not related. I don't think I'm related either. And that's enough for today's. It's the internet. Okay. So turns out and learn much and say, it's the internet examination. Maybe we should had paisley back in today. Maybe he could have added his insight. I did learn that, you know, I do really think it's ridiculous. When you when you weep over shit that happened to people who you never knew who died long ago. Maybe I'm maybe I'm wrong that way, maybe I'm just a cold blooded monster. It's possible. I have been accused many times over the course of my life of not being empathetic enough to people through. I did joke longtime ago about how I could never be a counselor. You know, which was supposed to be pass. Just because I'm not. I can't entertain people's, you know, winding like some people can't it comes across some people. Complain of their problems comes across to me like shut the fuck up suck it up Bill chuckles, and since I can't think of any additional lessons. Let's look back again on the ones we did. Learn today have some fun with some silly new info in today's top five takeaways. Time away. Number one, the two instigators of this feud were Deva lands Hatfield, and Randall McCoy patriarchs of the Hatfield mccoys families and ironically, both would famous feud. They started number two random coil it the long life of misery. He lived at the age of eighty eight south five kids die in the feud. Saw his wife beaten nearly to death Deva Lance head field to me is undeniably, the winner of this feud. Yes, his nephew would hang his brother murdered and other relatives would be sent to prison, but none of Suns with die in the feud eleven of thirteen kids would outlive him. Even though he lived to be eighty one ten years before he died, two kids Thirty-three-year-old allies. Thirty one year old Troy would die in a gunfight, of course, in the gummy West Virginia nine hundred eleven killing the man shooting both of them over a disagreement about whom got over who got to sell liquor to whom Gumri the half brothers. Leisurely? Started the fight fire. Still fire running those Hatfield hog folk veins number three..

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"deva lance" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

Timesuck with Dan Cummins

03:47 min | 2 years ago

"deva lance" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

"The river has the picket heading to pick up mail to post office, Coleman, Hatfield historian and grandson of Deva, Lance Hatfield later documents events in his own writing, stating the dock Ellis consummate politician intends to step off the locomotive and shake hands with pastures who've preparing to boat as doc Ella steps down to a rough wooden slats between two passenger coaches. He just happens to come face to face with last Hatfield. Who's older standing on the boardwalk talking to travelers? Hello, alas, doc Mona's. He tries to start step the show at temple Hatfield. Hello, doc, allies replies with a wide grin. He places his hand undock shoulder stopping him in mid stride. So doc, you think you can come take me cross Kentucky, easy, as you did my brother after a few tents seconds alas. Decides was not the time or place to get revenge and turns away mumbling you son of a bitch. And he starts speaking with another travel in friend Ajay peril. When all hell breaks loose, doc. Ella shouts. I'll show you who's a son of a bitch as he lunged for the doorway of the passenger grabbed his rifle leveling added last seen was about to take place or seen. What was about to take place peril through his armful pushing allies back which just as doc squeeze the trigger and the Winchester exploded in gunfire travels on the boardwalk dove for cover scattering as gunsmoke build the shot. Just misses Alaska's head and he instinctively pivots while. Job and his Colt. Single action from his belt and returns fire. The shot was definitely next round. Hit a middle cuff link on docks reaced in the forty five bullet ricocheted upward breaking dock Ellis. His neck blood spotted from the entrance wound. Doc, Phil would dit on July twelfth allies turned himself into the Williamson courthouse in his arrested and then jailed on murder charges relating to death of Humphrey. Daca. Plead is self defense before license court case can come to the conclusion to its conclusion his brother cap, second son of devil intercedes. Decides gotta help his baby brother break at a jail and escaped possible. Life in prison or the hangman's noose in the middle of the night on August eighteenth while lies weights and the small cell cap slips through the backstreets Williamson on horseback. Leads large buckskin pony up behind him, according to family lore. Kep carried heavy Riggins with him. And once he arrived the jail he secured one end of a heavy rope cable to a saddle horn. Tie the other to the iron bars covering the jailhouse window, and then just he Spurs his horse in the force Yankee iron bars free, along some chunks of masonry around the window casing, and then, you know, allies pushes some more of your sides Jimmy's out to the opening in the two just fucking takeoff. They flee the mountain state that night bounced around various nearby states for about a year. Then just come home. Well, when allies eventually returns, the mountain state, he's immediately arrested and later convicted for the murder of doc allies, he sent to the West Virginia penitentiary mounds Ville, but as quickly paroled by George W Atkinson governor, the governor of the state in a man with ties to the hatfields tug Ravelli. Of course, Jon also gets off easy. Lieutenant governor of Kentucky. William Pryor thorn, request his request for a pardon. Shortly thereafter, the hatfields still have a little bit of Poland in Kentucky as well. Cap. Ends up becoming a lawyer shortly after that setting up a practice in Logan county, which then would pass onto his son Coleman and his daughter. I lean in the line. An I lean skews me little trivia, it would become the first female attorney, Logan county. I wonder if he used that jailbreak story to win over any clients when you hire kept half, you you oughta get off or you broke out is a half way. The first decades of the twentieth century, the Hatfield mccoys largely steer clear of trouble. They steer clear from a labor rights that would trouble Mingo and Logan counties from nineteen ninety one to nineteen twenty one with the exception of one big part of family lore..

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"deva lance" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

Timesuck with Dan Cummins

03:50 min | 2 years ago

"deva lance" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

"The case is essentially an argument between the two states and refers the case up to the US supreme court harmful versus doll folk mega sway from the tug river valley old away to the supreme court of the US out. Yeah. Wingding then bang bang. Dang, dang dang thing. Mending mainly main West Virginia governor Wilson appeals a decision on March fifth. The judge GRANDE. Appeal which passes to the US circuit court on April fifth here used as Gibson the lawyer who represented West Virginia in the hatfields again argues that the rest of the hatfields in West Virginia constituted, unlawful seizure, steady of Kentucky Turner form of Kentucky. Governor j Proctor Knott knowledge that the arrests were unlawful but claims that it did matter because they were unlawfully rested in Kentucky and the judge in. The appeals case reaffirmed the decision to send the trout to the US supreme court. So now, April thirteenth eighteen eighty eight lawyers for both West Virginia and Kentucky arrive in Washington DC to present their arguments for the case the arguments begin unable twenty third with Virginia, aka the hatfields lawyer Gibson. Stick is original point the whole series of events from caption, West Virginia through arrested incarceration, Kentucky, continuous constitutes gives me single continuous act by the agents on behalf of the state of Kentucky, Kentucky's attorney AK. The McCoy's attorney not declared that had never been that. It had never been shoot me an issue between the two states, but. Rather between private individuals? And if it had been a state issue West Virginia should have filed US supreme court directly instead of going to the first the district court. He's Christ general opinion was that this was correct. And the West Virginia had made a procedural error old supreme court rules that while the initial arrest and induction the hatfields in West Virginia was on constitutional. There were no grounds for charging Kentucky with wrongdoing to the state of West Virginia. So now Kentucky wins the case. And hatfields are now on the run get you through the hot Fokion. Now, get the feds are gonna be chasing you swan. So now several hatfields are being searched look for to be put on trial for the New Year's attack on the random McCoy's home in the spring of eighteen eighty eight West Virginia thirties take legal measures their own against the men responsible. For the arrests indicting Frank Phillips that Debbie sheriff or. Yeah. Indicting excuse me. Frank fields deputy sheriff John Yates pike county and assorted McCoy's for the murder of Jim Vance. Additionally, the offer substantial rewards for the rest of Philips and other men McCoy men on the run now as well. So. A lot of legal maneuvering for really the same results. You still have Hatfield people being chased by authorities on behalf of Kentucky. And you still have McCoy people now being chased by thorns on behalf of West Virginia by the summer of eighteen eighty eight the rewards offered for the hatfields and Kentucky and the McCoy's in West Virginia had totaled to about eight thousand dollars, which draws the attention of various kinds of detectives from all over the country Pinkerton and others descended on the tug valley with the hopes to get rich by capturing some of these people and collect rewards. On both sides. These these new outliers these new, you know. Detector met with disdain sometimes outright hostility. Most of the wanted had McCoy seek refuge in the mountains. Just hide out until things cool down letting their women and kids at home. You know, let them mind the properties Deva, Lance. He himself moves to remote narrow valley nearest West Virginia. Sorry, I'm saying that name wrong. Two small unincorporated area and Logan county that no one outside of the area gives us single fuck about no one has published any type of pronunciation guide. So if you like actually that's pronounced stare you and seven people care about that. Anyway, devil Anse hides there to protect himself from these new outsiders heave and set up a kind of fortress for his clan. Should they need to flee into the woods to defend themselves? He stocks cabin with water food fuel arms and munition in case of a prolonged siege..

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"deva lance" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

Timesuck with Dan Cummins

03:13 min | 2 years ago

"deva lance" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

"Ellison mounts who is the the bastard son of Deva Lance's brother who was stabbed and shot earlier in the story. Charles, Gillespie, French dock Ellis. They launch a midnight attack on the McCoy household New Year's day eighteen eighty eight so have a New Year's McCullough the hatfields just own been surrounded. You'll for years just hold onto a ship Natal Yukon, the Voltaire ex you caught in a Brown off the half Fieldstone under the cover of darkness, the hatfill surround the house demand the McCoy meant surrender ole Randall in his son Calvin refused. They take up defensive positions inside the house against orders to hold fire. Johnny start shoot into the house in the ensuing. Gunbattle crazy, Jim Vance, Tom Chambers. Set fire to the house of one Randall McCoy's young daughters, Allah fair shot. As she opened the kitchen door to try to get out of a burning house, by the way, if you have seen the history channel hatha McCoy mini series drama, which is excellent is historically accurate for the most part. She was not a young child as she was portrayed in that in that docu series. She sears. She was she's twenty nine possibly even thirty have sources say one have said the other. So she gets shot coming out of the burn house. And then her mother Sarah McCoy goes to try to aid her dying daughter. And then Jim Vance strikes her repeatedly with the butt of his rifle despite her injuries. She continues to try to help Allah fair and then Jonty. The dude who wanted to be her son-in-law while back in this tale pistol whips the fucking shit out of her to a point. She will never mentally recover, man. Johnny pistol whipping the mother of the woman he dated for months supposedly wanted to pistol up in the aunt of his current wife. The fire spreads Calvin McCoy tries to make a run for the some corn. He gets shot. Wanna rental sons? Oh, Randall he's able to escape into the woods at this point, the Hatfield party realizes not only had they failed at their plan to to kill Randall. They'd made their situation far worse it escalated in shit that they probably in a way, they probably not imagine both Calvin Allah, fair dead. So two more two more Randall McCoy's kids five of its kids. Now have been killed this feud Sarah, his wife gravely wounded with the broken arm, broken hip and crushed skull. Yeah. And she would be brain damaged for the rest of her life. Most of the property was also destroyed forcing Randall to move in with his remaining family in the pike Ville, home of Perry Cline there. The formerly disowned daughter Rosanna goes over and takes care of her beaten mother. God man, Randall is getting the worst of this view. Holy shit. Hatfields of now. Killed four of sons one of his daughters. Kill the pair of his nephews beat his wife almost death burned. His fucking house down killed his brother years back. Meanwhile, the only blood kin devil Anse has lost his brother Ellison this few to this point, you know, the midnight attack on the McCoy farm. This is this is the event of first drew national attention to the feud newspapers all over the region running sensationalized headlines about the event feud in general, January eighteen eighty eight Frank Phillips pike county sheriff's deputy official agent of governor Buckner in the Hatfield matter..

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"deva lance" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

Timesuck with Dan Cummins

01:47 min | 2 years ago

"deva lance" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

"Sometime in the fall of eighteen eighty six Nancy Mary's brother, Jeff McCoy stabs, and then shoots pike county mail carrier named Fred Wolford, Jeff is Johnny hatfields. Wife's brother son of as a Harmon McCoy. Jeff flees Kentucky to Nancy Thome investor Geneva hide out from the law, and there he learns about Mary and her daughter getting whipped by cap Hatfield. Tom Wallace, Jeff is outraged. Huff Oto whip no dog folk he decided to punish Hatfield associate Tom Wallis. Maybe a little bit hesitant to to go after cap Hatfield directly will Jeff along with an accomplice named Josiah Hurley, they wait until cap is out at his house, then kidnapped Tom Wallace take him to jail in pie feel Kentucky. However, Tom Wallace manages to escape and return to caps house. Jeff chose area catch up to him. But after a short confrontation, they give up and then when cap learns about the assault on his home and Wallace being taken. He files a complaint with local Justice of the peace his relation. Who issues warrants for the arrest at points Kappa special constable, how convenient he gets become officer. You know, so that he can serve the warrants himself. So now he gets to go after McCoy somewhat legally quasi illegally. And he does arrest Jeff McCoy Josie Hurley, but then Jeff escapes, quote unquote, during transport to county jail dives into the tug fork tries to swim back to Kentucky. He does make the riverbank or then captures shoots in from across the river, and he dies. So another McCoy a nephew of all rantel has been shot and killed by a Hatfield hog folk still still way up in this food. All right in the wake of yet. Another killing Deva Lance tries to soothe the the bad blood between the two families on December twenty six eighteen eighty six day of Christmas, Devlin's.

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"deva lance" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

Timesuck with Dan Cummins

04:31 min | 2 years ago

"deva lance" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

"Son of renovating wounded and Bill Stanton, relative of both the hatfields and the mccoys, but a man closer in community ties to that feels getting killed himself in eighteen eighty John's e Hatfield one of Devon's is sons hooks up in the woods with rose Anna McCoy one of Randall's daughters. Ran will end up his own in her over the romance eighteen eighty one Johnny Hatfield courts in Mary's rose. And as cousin Nancy McCoy daughter of the just previously mentioned as Harmon McCoy eighteen eighty two three McCoy, stab and shoot devil ends as brother. Ellison Hatfield posse forms leading to the to three of Randall's nine Suns Tolbert farmer bud McCoy getting executed in a display of Hatfield vigilante Justice. So so far it seems that random McCoy's getting the shittiest end of the feud stick by far his brother as Harmon. Likely killed by Hatfield possibly by Deva. Lance other brother Paris wounded in a gunfight. His daughter has. Okay. Yeah. My god. I have to count to keep this my head. Yes. Another Paris McCoy. Yes. Wounded minute gunfight his daughter her reputation soiled by an unmarried carnal union with the son of Deva lands. His nephew Bill Stanton killed in a shootout with hatfields three of his sons killed by vigilante posse led by devil. Lance, brother. Nephew three sons killed a daughter and niece seduced by Hatfield five dead. One wounded to virginity taken. Meanwhile, Deva Lance has lost one brother and his clan has been accused of stealing a hawk so very lopsided. Hong folk hatfields way up dog folk McCoy's through the summer of eighteen eighty two. Okay. August tenth age eighty two both Ellison Hatfield and his now dead McCoy, brother. Murderers are buried shortly thereafter, judge, George Brown of pike county Kentucky convened a grand jury to determine the identities of the killers of McCoy. Brothers as for ten days of deliberation. The jury with neither Hatfield Norma Koi on it. Returns indictments against twenty men, including Deva, Lance, his brothers wall and Elias his sons cap and Johnny a number of other well now Hatfield supporters and that and that those three murders just would keep coming up like the the legal repercussions. Keep this going for a long time because you know, they're just continually not brought to Justice despite the indictments no arrests were made in the murder of the McCoy sons in the four years afterwards. Mateen eighty to eighty six and that goes back to what we said earlier about you know, states being very reluctant to to pursue supposed- fugitives of Justice and other states, the Hatfield mccoys would occasionally take a little potshots at one another during this time. So the food still on they shoot each other from time to time. But no one's killed members of both families do continue to cross back and forth over the state line between Kentucky and West Virginia. Deva lands involvement with the feud less. Since his son capstein kind of takes the reins as the leader of the Hatfield clan. At least in terms of their conflict with McCoy's all random Koi, still bent on vengeance in the death of his sons, he hires an attorney he's related to by marriage. That man Perry Cline that guy that, you know, got acres from way back when rep and he and he hires Perry to represent the McCoy family and their quest for Justice Perry. Cline brother-in-law of the murdered Harmon McCoy Reynolds brother in equally has a personal vendetta as well against the hatfields at some point during the time period things start to go wrong in the marriage of Nancy McCoy in John's e Hatfield apparently Nancy was a notorious gossip who found the details of the feud fascinating. Yeah. Why of course, she did. She and her Sister, Mary Daniels frequently discussed the details the feud this convinced the head feels that she was a spy or the I guess both of them were spy her sister. And that they're informing. Hatfield secrets to the McCoy's not trust into women's husbands to punish them accordingly for this. This is insane cap Hatfield again when a devil and sons and Tom Wallace, a hassle support burst into Mary's home one night, hold her husband gun point. And then lash I Mary than her daughter with a cow's tail just whip 'em like a couple of mules again is people fucking savage cap. And Tom Wallace warned the women to stay at home mind their own business going forward. Neither do the story of the assault rapidly circulates throughout community..

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"deva lance" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

Timesuck with Dan Cummins

02:52 min | 2 years ago

"deva lance" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

"So just confusing to me. Yeah. So I guess he's just as the piece where where related to them man, and I have gone over this so many times to try and separate the families. There's anyway, I guess what's important in this segment of the tail is whether or not these these these local law officers were hatfields or not local officers get him. But then some some hatfields possibly some other hatfields think like no we don't want this to go to the court. They form a posse. They get these three McCoy San's in some vigilante kind of take down. Right. And then they take them back to one of their homes. So they take take us the of them. They have them in West Virginia. They put him in an abandoned log schoolhouse. They're real under under armed guard and that night, Randall's wife, the boy's mother Serra McCoy her daughter-in-law Mary butcher arrive. Beg to see their kin Deva Lance relents the women get to spend. A fair amount of time with them co-boys, supposedly Sarah pleads with devil Anse not to kill her sons, he promises her he will return them to Kentucky soil alive, but then the following day, August, ninth devil and his brother. Ellison dies endeavor, Lance enraged, he's grieving he decides he is not going to return service boys to her not after killing his brother. She returns again to see her son. She is denied, and then the McCoy prisoners are bound and March to the tug fork where they crossed the river there returned to Kentucky soil where the hatfields some had time to some bushes. Cross the creek DO back to the West Virginia side, and then from across the creek opened fire on the bound prisoners fire. Well over fifty shots there. They're, you know, very dead. The bodies of Tolbert farmer and bud McCoy then discovered on the riverbank next day by relative. Yeah. If any of these points, I have to do a little bit wait what? There's there's a a lot of a lot of tales out there about these guys. And it's a very fusing tail even when you do it down to the truth. And yeah, takes a lot of like, wait what have to be very clear. What what am I saying now? So if you're keeping track let's do a recap because this shit is getting confusing. If you're keeping track of significant hostilities, let's go over the important points before we move forward in this tale as a in McCoy thought to have been killed by some hatfields likely by either Deva, Lance or crazy Jim Vance in eighteen sixty five and as a Harmon McCoy is Renell McCoy old Randall head of the McCoy clan. It's his brother the brother that was ostracized by the family for being a unit soldier. That's eighteen sixty five eighteen seventy eight Randall McCoy accuses Floyd Hatfield cousin of devil Anse of stealing one of his hogs Floyd found innocent. But the trial may not have been that fair. Shootout over the hog dispute. A few months later leads to Paris McCoy..

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"deva lance" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

Timesuck with Dan Cummins

04:19 min | 2 years ago

"deva lance" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

"Fall eighteen seventy eight a ho how woke real Hawgood stolen? Maybe we think it's common practice for families. Let their hogs roam the woods round their properties for to forage for acorns and beechnuts inch family would Mark their particular hog with a notch or Mark. And it's ear the animals would then be easily recognizable identified be rounded up again. In autumn of eighteen seventy eight Ronald McCoy leader of the McCoy's visiting Floyd Hatfield cousin Debbie lands at his farm, and they're Randall claimed he saw hog bearing the earmark of McCoy penned up with the Hatfield animals who I see what you doing Randall, notoriously hot tempered, immediately cues Floyd Hatfield of cedar one of his animals files, a formal suit for the hogs recovery. With Reverend Anderson Hatfield, the local Justice of the peace enemy who happens to be devil answers. First cousin. The matter goes to trial in an attempt to keep the verdict. Fair. Anderson had fields jury made up a six hatfields and six McCoy's. Then Bill Stanton nephew of Randall McCoy brother of Sarah Stanton, who was the wife of Ellison Hatfield, sister-in-law Deva. Lance testified that the hogging question did indeed bear Hatfield, Mark. And he said he'd per- personally personally witnessed Floyd Hatfield applying that Mark and damn conflicting family loyalties old at he didn't know which way he didn't know which way to. To to which side to be on this dock vote is supposed to marry how folk now you've got some men connected. Both families bound to piss off kin one side another his full mouth. Surprise verdict. The jury found fully healed innocent of any wrongdoing because Selkirk McCoy cousin Randall apparently gave the swing vote for innocence. Who you don't did? Now, you would trade you'll bloodline. The McCoy's were outraged the verdict subsequently ostracized Selkirk from the family. He's out now is a traitor for supporting the hatfields in this decision. And then he would just be aligned with the Hatfield clan in the future. I mean, these people were serious about man, like so clannish, you know, you fight on which side of the civil war that our families decided to fight you testify only on our behalf. Always you don't you'll find out later. You know, in the story date anybody from that aside, you do any of those things you're fucking out for life. You're out of that is still hardcore. I'll never understand like that. Like people don't like in the world. But if Roe got involved with them, I wouldn't be like you make decision now. You'll with the comments clay, and you told me for Allah people do that all the time back then. Okay. So selkirk. Yeah. He broke one of the first rule speed in clan. Testified testified against kind. In the months following the hog trail hawks witness Bill Stanton. Now he's harassed and threatened by the mccoys for testifying on behalf of Floyd. Remember, he's you know, vaguely related to the McCoy's. But there like man you testified against us. You couldn't keep your mouth shuts. Now, there's like crazy confrontations between him and various McCoy's it included gunfire. You know, he's once once in a while just riding around through the valley getting fucking shot at because you opened his mouth about a hog. But no serious harm was done. Initially. Just just gotta boy as being valuable us just showed one another. That's how settled disagreements until eventually a chance encounter between Bill Stanton. Salmon, Paris McCoy brothers of old Randall McCoy leads to a shootout ending in the serious wounding of Peres McCoy and in the murder of Bill stance. Now, he gets killed for open his mouth about the hulk you try to testify now you try to testify cast Kim from hail you feel stooge. Sam Koi stands trial for Stanton's murder and other the evidence and judicial system seem very stacked against him. It seems very obviously he did this. And also, you know, Deva lands owned brother Valentine Hatfield. Now, the judge this trouser cousin preside first cousin preside in the last trial over last row. Now, he's now his brother is presiding judge in this trial, but still Sam found not guilty by reason of self defense and some story and things decision was handed down per the explicit instructions of Deva lands to defuse tension between the two families to prevent further. Violence. You know, it's like, yes. Yes. You know? He okay. One of our conned was killed but Conde provoke him. Let's stop it..

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"deva lance" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

Timesuck with Dan Cummins

02:16 min | 2 years ago

"deva lance" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins

"Pizza gate building secret fortresses. You know, like the one that is supposed to under the Denver airport, and maybe even working with aliens known as the grays and area fifty one and some type of X files scenario and keeping it all hush hush for centuries unable to be proven by academics. But somehow constantly. Posed by David Ikin, Alex Jones, who did not have degrees, obviously investigative journalists. So one of those things one of those things is true shadow government is a sexy an interesting thought, but I just don't buy. Thank you comes razor time. By away. New world. Order sucked. Look forward to the it is the internet eviscerating me in the comment section below this. You do video. Thanks get into time. So team high priest is harmony village camp, Jesse guardian of grammar dope. Ner Reverend Dr Joe paisley time, high priest Alex Dugan the guys bit elixir those wizards danger brain was fantastic brand designers space lizards emerge. Wizards access to peril. Queens suck. Lindsey commons. Another special, thanks to bojangles. Researcher Heather knowledge ninja Rylander suck. And a feud next Monday, maybe the most famous feud in American history, we're talking about the family feud, right? It's a originally hosted. No, we're talking about the hatfields and the mccoys hassles. No choice. I haven't wanted to suck that for a long time. What was the source of this vicious and violent clash between the hats McCoy's in the mid nineteenth century during the most heated years the feud each family has ruled by well known patriarch William Andrew from Hatfield not. Deva lance. Hey appearance of backwoods mountain daughter about eighteen seventies. David Lynch was increasingly successful timber merchant who employ dozens of man, including some course, on the other side has stood Randolph. Oh, Randall McCoy they'll not as prosperous Devlin's Randolph owns from land stock in both families lived long tug fork over the big sandy river snake along the boundary between Kentucky and West Virginia. I van decade-long feared was eighteen sixty five murder Randolph. Brother ASA Harmon lacouer about Logan. Wildcats local militia group that Karen devil Lanson hatfields among its membership relations between the two families soured over the next decade before.

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"deva lance" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

Newsradio 970 WFLA

03:20 min | 2 years ago

"deva lance" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

"That somebody said hurricane Michael is so bad even one of the ours in hurricane evacuated. That's funny. Yeah. Jeff is always doing theme. Kind of music years were into the Halloween season devil inside inside. What? Inside cake. Devil upside inside king, a devil, the devil deviled egg devil. I love deviled eggs, gross Deva. Lance is a great great. Great great. Uncle of mine Hatfield. Anyway, let's see it's eight twenty five on AM Tampa Bay. Got to get this in here to should have gotten to it a little bit earlier. But Hillary Clinton said Tuesday, there's a very significant difference between the allegations of sexual misconduct against her husband Bill Clinton and those against President Trump. This is CNN's Christiane Amanpour asking Clinton, what was different about the allegations against her husband compared to those against Trump and Justice Brad Kavanagh, and she said, there's significant difference. And that is the intense long-lasting partisan investigation that was conducted in the nineties. She said if the Republicans starting with President Trump on down one comparison, they should welcome such an investigation themselves, and you look back at Clinton, and this was ignored by the media, and the mainstream media, you've got Juanita broaddrick accused him. Of raping her. But that's the that's the big, you're right. They are different. They're very different. Your husband was accused of rape. Donald Trump was accused of an extra marital affair. Yeah. And and Matt cavenaugh are Brett Cavanaugh was accused of things that he did when he was a youngster, and and this guy was president of the United while he was secretary of state in in Arkansas for one of them. But the president the accusations against Kevin out weren't even rape. And some people are still going as far to call him a gang rapist. Yeah. No. That's ridiculous. Well, you had woman who came out and said that he was there when she was held down and raped and everything and they that has been totally blown out of the water, not even close. But anyway, you got Juanita broaddrick accused him of raping her in seventy eight while he was attorney general that's what it was not not secretary of state and Kathleen Willey, accused him of kissing your fondling her breasts enforcing your to touch. His crotch during a meeting in the Oval Office in Ninety-three Paula Jones, accused him of sexual harassment. Brought a lawsuit against them. He had to pay eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars and in twenty sixteen Leslie Milwaukee accused Bill of sexually assaulting her in nineteen eighty can you believe that your Hillary? You're better off just staying away from that top. Hey, the hell out of it. Man. She got to go away. Why was Bill going after all these women? Well, let's look good. He's married. I think the answer is is encased in a pantsuit. It's eight twenty eight.

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"deva lance" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

KTAR 92.3FM

01:49 min | 2 years ago

"deva lance" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

"Shake hands and you got maybe michael buffers their ladies and gentlemen boys and girls and you know friends around the were let's get ready to denuclearize and just a little thing and then bills lanes come out remember mills let's get it all and then they go back and they talk about everything they come out later and then they have a press conference there you go i i would be better if it was like it'd be more entertaining i know that for sure three two three five three eight twenty four twenty three at chadbensonshow is your twitter you can tweet oh long with us israel said it yesterday and i got some blowback people are still fighting on the facebook page over the israel hamas day of rage ramadan starts today all the stuff you know you've got funerals going on i i don't care i'm still only i don't care phase of this and i want to give a care but i can't i just i just i doubt and hamas and this nightmare it's still the hatfield mccoys and guess what i don't care about the hatfield mccoys either you're the most entertaining and i've studied that feels mccoy's deva lance and and and the likes of them i mean you look you know it's interesting to a certain extent but it's just folklore and that's the way i feel about this it was interesting to a certain point there are allies we want our allies dwell and we stand behind them but there's the person who's living in iowa really care about this as a person living in orlando really care about this person living in phoenix arizona really care about this on a daytoday basis i went out to dinner last night with some people and we were talking about this and i was asking people around us.

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