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"derek thompson" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Camera work and stuff and It was a bit of a high wire. Act for me but Yeah again get a chance to do something like that. At this point in my career was was absolutely phenomenal. Phenomenal i really enjoy it. It's also show. They had to reinvent twice right. They had to reinvent it before they even started filming it. Because you know. The the circumstances in the country had changed to the point that it had to be reflected in season one and then then now you start filming season. Two an awesome. There's a pandemic soon that first episode. There's like this new year's eve party from like a year ago and now all of a sudden you gotta. I guess i haven't seen the second episode yet but it's got a fast forward but Well that's that's what they get for trying to write a show about Hitting a moving target right news right average That really is what morning news shows have to every day is kit it to unforeseen circumstances and deliver it in a palatable way that's also entertaining and So consequently they're saddled with that particularly during such tumultuous time in america over the last three years in order to maintain that attention to their ambition. They had to write stuff all the time and A conversation by the involved around the metoo movement that movement It was evolving so rapidly. That i think what they wanted to do was humanize voices that were trying to navigate it in real time as well when things started to shift so alarmingly in mark. Yeah It became pretty clear that a it was gonna be difficult for us to continue filming and be the world was changing again in the writers. We're going to have to attend to it. And i can remember getting the first episode of season two and reading a man's sneezes at the end just the hair on the back of my neck ended up thinking about. Oh god we're already telling this story while we're still in the midst of it this is going to be heroin and It was it was pretty strange to go through. All of these various protocols that the Epidemiologists had put into place for you know safely Make it through the season and then played characters who weren't yet aware of the on coming soon. Nami right there. Like is the water going out right now. They were still at that stage in their understanding. Meanwhile us to get on set. We had to be tested twice that day. You know so. There was a one of the things you've asked to do as an actor is to.
"derek thompson" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Was planning on doing. And it's just a a feature of the profession that if you're equipped for it you can capitalize on it. And so the i. I'd never played guitar before. And of course. I told cameron. Don't worry i you know Just like again without limits was not an olympic runner. But i figured it out enough the storytelling i promise will for for most people. Yes there will be some Some guitar players. Who see this and know that i'm a fraud but for most of the audience. Bill believes that Russell him knows how to play guitar. And so that. That was actually much harder. Training than without limits. The physical toll without limits was uncomfortable but the mental grind of trying to like as an adult to learn guitar. So the look like somebody. Who's expert at it. I mean i could have played a pc shake for but somebody who's supposed to be great at that was very complex but i had Peter frampton and nancy wilson there to help me in in addition obviously cameras as another situation. Where like with the dustin hoffman and robert deniro. I kind of put my head down. And that i was supposed to be there because it was too intimidating to be when i when i was in high school i parked cars and my claim to fame at the fifteenth street fisheries in fort lauderdale. Florida was that. I once park peter francis car so fifteen years later. You've helped change my guitar strings. Because i'm so tense pill i'm breaking guitar strings on nearly every strum because i i'm just trying to figure it out you know and so we had a a great deal of patients and He's just a great guy. Actually it's my favorite twenty-first-century movie and was essentially is really is. I think it is for a lot of people. I i think it's really incredibly re watchable. I think it's i. I don't know it just it just hits all the things i like. But what's you know. The brad pitt piece of it. I actually think he might have been too famous for the movie at that point. I think the fact that we're kind of discovering all the people in the movie was really helpful for the actual movie right. I mean jason. Lee and some stuff. Kate hudson had been in a couple of things. You'd been a couple of things like in that kind of movies so it was like these are all these people that were now in my life. you know. he's a great great point because it it was about them discovering themselves to see you wanna have some kind of opaque quality audience. He has brad pitt at that point. He's so famous. That i'm i'm only going to be where it's brad pitt. Playing russel hayman a russell isis thing. But the the stuff that cameras in that movie where he dwells on his fucking entire rolling stone experience he has covering all these bands this amalgam ben stillwater. But then has this recall like oh no when we go to this place at san diego's gotta look like this and the backstage has to be this way and the guy working the door like he's kind of freak. How did that shit. That he's a writer and a reporter and i can guarantee like these. This is entirely everything. You remember like albums the posters on that he had in his bedroom like those worker number set. Those were his props in the movie. There the yeah all. His albums were his albums. Right the rumors and all that stuff was his and he's a total outlier. You know he's. I don't know if you've ever had the chance to speak with him but could not be sweeter more affable curious loving individual but his mind is on a different level his capacity to not just remember stories but appreciate why they're valuable. That's the thing that makes so many of the moments in almost famous i think indelible is because he captures. What's valuable about the what's valuable about Russell like Being on the roof and on acid thing. I'm a golden got is not brussels experienced. It's the fans experience right. That's got to be there for the you'll see the shots go to the fans. That's the part that's hilarious..
"derek thompson" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"The olympics and the movie does a great job by the way. I'm doing this blind. I haven't seen probably thought nine months ago. But i've seen it a bunch of times. The movie does a great job in the seven to olympics of explaining why he doesn't meddle. Because you know the fundamental flaw at the prefontaine stories is like this guy is like basically the tiger michael jordan but then he doesn't even met on the olympics but the way they construct that old scene where it's like he basically gets you know he's. He's cut off at the worst point of the race by the time he's able to rally. I just thought like from a sports movie standpoint. That's a really really really great. Saint i really like it well. I'm glad you know. I was hoping that robert would do two things at the same time if you know sports one of the other things you know is sometimes there's no rhyme or reason for why somebody can't deliver in a moment sometimes me most clutch person who you are dying to be up in that situation in the ninth inning. They just don't deliver. That's one of the things that's most exciting about sports. If they delivered every time we would have a thrill of the meeting our expectations. So part of me is that you nain approach competing quantifying. These that flex subs what happens when the person who is the best who actually is driven the most who has the perfect mental appetites sales. How do they go on with their lives if they built their entire Sense of self arose especially when they're like the chosen one and then all of a sudden even metal yet precisely and and also he had talked shit about everybody. He was like ready to go and so to me. That's at a fabulous story That's the the heartbreak of him. dying is. He was on his road to redemption. He was on his journey of recovery. Whatever it takes for people who executed that caliber to recover from such a vicious blow as that. That's one of the things is fascinating to me. I mean coming back the next year turning the page playing golf playing professional golf and shanking one ended gallery and putting some persons tooth out and then having dropped the ball. Because the upcoming pot is going to be worth two hundred forty thousand dollars that's crazy compartmentalization the things that you have to do. Mentally because your body can already do it. The the the amount of effort that goes into being a professional athlete is about training your body to do things that your mind is not big over. So what happens when you're in a game like golf when all you have is time. So he has over four years between the olympics. Where he's just that's it just thinking justin so he had to reorganize his sense of self in that period of time and then he dies tragically A really incredible story about An incredible incredible life. I was actually in oregon recently and drove through tuesday. And i i was. There was no small part of me that wanted to be able to walk into you know I dunno athletic store and have people go. Oh my. it's steve refund paying. That's not happening right now. There's like. I would have to you know get out. Id and say sam not you know his father grandfather. It was twenty years ago. Showed them but there was this huge gorgeous mural that had him in like three different stages.
"derek thompson" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"If you're in the split screen if you're not nodding with a real serious face while the other guys talking respect them. Yeah or the or the fake laugh when you know if somebody makes a joke and it's dead silence it's like the tariq. Oh kornheiser thing. We always talked about football. It's like it three in really south. Tony stuff like whether tony was good or not or that row. I will in my opinion. We'll never know. Because i feel like if he had been without michael's al michaels would have sold it and i've argued about this with two rico. You know. I just feel like it was a bad match. Which is what happens. Sometimes sometimes people are bad match. We've seen it. Pin ability could trillion times But i think getting to twenty years is hilarious because tony for at least the entire time. I've known him was convinced. This show is about to get cancelled and they are going to get rid of him and his old amanda touch. I remember when they started putting pablo with them. It's like it's like. He's my grandson i i. I'm like doing a show my grandson. Nobody wants to see that. I'm too old. And but he's still really good at it and people do on a see it. I think the audience has gone down. Just because i think afternoon tv has gone down for a million different reasons. Young people may be aren't watching afternoon tv as much tick toxin there and podcasts and instagram and streaming netflix. There's a million competitors that they didn't have in two thousand one but it still relevant show million competitors and by the way espn's a very different place espn's not being driven by newspaper sports columnists anymore. The ride home block which was four shows is now shrunk to two shows. And they're doing very different kinds of shows. Max kellerman in the afternoon things like that that are not in his in not the same format. So yeah but it's you know to me. It's kind of grandfathered in to borrow. Tony's metaphor there with pablo. But it's a grandmother. Damn i was for this week. And i was looking up some stuff on twitter and are looking up stuff and just kind of looking around and i have forgotten how many costumes they used to wear. It had a very like bargain-basement local tv early. Johnny carson feel where they coming out fully in costume That was really funny and just kind of a nod of like we know this is totally ridiculous. But we're just going to sell the bit and it became kind of winning. Yeah they they always manage to seem like they're having fun. Who knows that they are actually having fun. I feel like they were almost all the time but they it never felt gimmicky. Even though a lot of it was gimmicks right and what's hilarious about it as like ride home. His thoughts ride home is still doing the voices. It's still this homemade operation. You hear like you know like they were asked two questions. That's right homes voice going like do you think the bears will start just field. Things can still like involved in the show. Now in cowher's the other one and those guys have been there the entire time out there it was. It was really fun doing that. Show and trying to get better at it to the point where it's like. Oh i can actually hang with this format with these guys because it's fucking hard especially if you're gonna zoom like we're on now you're on a half second delay. You have to kind of wait to do your fake laugh because you know you're on the half second delay. There's all these components to it. That's why when it's in person it's always better and i think the pandemic you can see it when these guys are in the studio together which they have been able to do a bunch of times. It's always better. It's always better be able to feed off somebody in all it's funny you say it's not gimmicky because the whole show was gimmicks the ratio. Everything doesn't feel that way it's so gimmicky it's not gimmicky i think is the way to say like the show is so produced everything putting a little box and a little amount of time but it feels natural that just that that is a really weird element of it and then around the horn popped up and people member. There was all this around the horn animosity for years. And oh my love jesus. What's this and that now. It seems like people. I guess are fine with it or they don't care but it was funny that it was always like the annoying brother of pti who've come on before pt. Is this guy Here's ear comes. But then eventually people got over that and now the two shows kind of make sense together I guess yeah. I guess i think i'm in the i'm in the don't pay attention to around the horn always felt to me too gimmicky like it. It'd rank in the gimmickry to another level to the point. Now it's not human conversation anymore. So i'm out like that's that's when i pull the ripcord jump out of the plane is when when it doesn't it just feels like something other than people talking to each other on television. I never watched it I always tried to watch p tasks i think. Pt hit that vortex where people feel like. They watched it all the time. Even if they didn't here's you love pizza is straight but maybe they weren't watching him today. Which is really where you wanna be with a tv show despite the approval rating. Oh i love that show anyway pti pt. Be interested the documentary. I think should be finding the behind the scenes stuff. There's they always have an amazing crew behind the scenes. That would be fun to see. Some of those people get some sunshine but just in general such unique tv show. Like i'm glad you brought up cisco neighbor. Because i think that was another one and it's really hard to do this where you create something that just.
"derek thompson" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Media landscape. Well a couple ideas for you. One is couple years ago. I think this was donald trump's very first state of the union. I'm watching it on i believe. Nbc and down the right side of the screen is a scrolling series of topics. The kind of goes down as donald. Trump hits the various topics in the speech. And i'm like oh my gosh. The state of the union is now. Pti its head is unbelievable effect on television and often. I think very subtly but it's amazing. How many things have been stolen by other tv. Networks from bt. I we had the big ringer podcast on cisco on a lot of television was borrowed from that a lot of podcasts. From that and i think you could argue that p. t. i was kind of the second generation of that and people looked at that show. What do how can we do. Our own version of pt. I what little tricks can we sell. Because i think in a way that show really made an argument show that you could feel okay about watching in fact feel good about watching and not feel i and do. I really want to watch the sports argument. Show you like. I like these guys. I like this. This is this is. This is for me and yet to me. That's that's my biggest takeaway. I think cisco neighbor at the mcglockton mcglaughlin group the captain into this few years. Yeah i'll fire and crossfire. And they you know they were. There are innovations of it. We'd never really a hundred percent. Seen it worked in sports. It actually worked better locally. They remember in boston. Bob la belle used to host that sunday night show on channel four and the guys have come on and they would argue about sports since i. This is good but this was an hour instead of a half hour but from a national standpoint really sportscenter was the only place we'd send word then. They'll do the sports reporters on sundays. That was fun. I guess But pti they tapped into it. And i think it was one of those things even those comes in the beginning. You osceola clips and you go man. Look wow this is this show really grew. They really found their footing. It was still really felt revolutionary. Even in the moment where it was like. Oh they figured this out. They figured out how to have two guys. Who's who are friends. Argue about sports under some sort of structure in a way. That doesn't feel. I don't know like like it was kind of abusing some of the take format that we saw later years. I would say so. I think it's really important remember. This is two thousand one that starts right. We're coming out of this era of national sports radio where the big stars are people like jim rome and sports radio a lot of it not all of it but a lot of it on the national level is very much like a wwe promo and these guys come along and they're like we're not taking ourselves too. Seriously think tony said something on the very first show like if we can have a talk show everybody can have a talk show and there was this whole sense of them saying. Isn't it weird that we get paid to have opinions about sports here. I can't tell you that felt so different. And so bracing in two thousand and one again verses at that point which was mostly sports radio out in the world. I think that was one thing. And i think tony's whole nature which you know much better than i do. But i was talking about this and he said like tony on one of the first days of the show was like a hope you people are renting and not buying looking at his crew ones like. What are you talking about tony you know. We've we have two years of guaranteed money worst case we're on the golf course in you know in a couple of weeks and we got a bunch of money. Tony goes worst-case. That's my best case. Right and in that tony would never. He did this on his radio. Show too but he would never be self serious in that format and i think it saved that format away and save that show in particular and i it just they just have such a good vibe together there. Some dynamics that were in play twenty years ago that people probably don't realize as much alec one was. Tony was kind of i. Guess by my dad in the sense of He was the guy that has gotten a troubled. Espn and he had the radio show. Where every once in a while he would say something on the radio show that got him in trouble and so there was a sense of like all right. You're putting putting him on. Pti that's that's probably maybe net might not go that well there. He might get himself into trouble there. He might get show mike at Canceled or advertise. You just didn't know he was much more of a live wire. I think back then. Now you look back. And he wasn't at all but that was always a consideration. The other thing was it was a show that was on at five thirty during a time. When stories could still content could really breathe in sports right. You'd still wait till wednesday or thursday for the sports illustrated cover story on the sunday masters with the sunday sports right there. They there was. There wasn't like this rush to. What would you think rush that we have now so the five thirty they would kind of way in and they would be the last voice of the day on whatever happened to the day before what had just happened and it was an enormous power. Was the show that espn had needed for ever was. It came on when people came home from work It came on during time. When people had vcr's dvr's they could watch at that night and it just leverage all these different things and then what you mentioned was the other big piece was just putting stuff on the screen. That told me what they're gonna talk about. Which seems so simple now but just to have like you look at the screen. You see red sox. And it's half fanatic. Red sox were talking about the red sox. What are they going to say. You and that was really helpful because tv was just a big blank screen with nothing on and just people talking and they've figured out a way to game a that and make it a little more fun and eight. You know eric ride home. Obviously who. I've worked with a bad the fortune to know for a long time. And you know. I think he's going to get a lot of platitudes over the next few weeks but he understood some of these things really instinctively like people want this people want this and all that worked. Yeah and i think one thing right. Homes always been big about his televisions about relationships yet. It's not what. Tony and mike micro saying about sports. It's about the relationship between tony and mike and you and i've seen lots of people. Try this on television. They have a real friendship and they try to translate it and it doesn't work as a television friendship. It doesn't it doesn't turn into a tv show. And i thought that thing about tony mike. That was always so interesting to me was because they were both washington post columnist. They treated each other as equals. They didn't they. Didn't you know always agree on everything. They made fun of each other. That all that stuff. But they were equals. It wasn't big brother little brother it wasn't i have all the takes and you don't know anything which is what a lot of people get into because they get a little insecure when they get behind the mike. There's a lot of podcasting too by the way should get a little insecure. They wanna be right all the time. Those guys really respected each other. And so the vibe on the show was really pleasant to watch. You didn't feel like ma'am. I'm watching a really awkward. Hr meeting here or something. You know two guys that just hate each other. Like i know these guys respect each other and i like i like being with them ray and it captured at least the imagination of people who are like. I just would love to hang out with those guys. Those guys became celebrities immediately. It was a lot more people watching. Espn at that time too. You're talking over a million viewers. And i think that was the time of the company when the people who were stars at. Espn were major stars. You know like berman.
"derek thompson" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Think too much on the right that we can get to a point where rather than focus on evidence and report facts we instead look to shame the other side and try to feel like we're getting over our political enemy and i i wish looking back like i wish there was less team picking in media. I guess i would put it that way. I feel like an. I feel like i came into this condemning thinking like america was so polarized. Maybe maybe something really dramatic might unite this country and there's nothing more universalize pandemic aids. It is it is everywhere. This is global pulse. That might be like be most universal international new story in the history of the world even world war two wasn't International as cove it and yet rather than flatten polarization across the media landscape. It's heightened it we we we came into it with these goggles to see the world which was always my side right your side wrong and throw them away and try to solve problems. I feel like the media has just you know. Held the goggles site their face and refused to see this crisis in any way. That isn't hyper-political. So if i could have one overarching criticism of the coverage of this pandemic. It is ben that we can't get out of our way in seeing the world exclusively through hyper polarized lenses and that's really really bad for telling people the truth because a first order basis. You're not telling people the truth. You're just telling people that they're site their side is still virtuous and the other side is still wrong just over and over and over again and i wish we found some way to break out of it and find a way to report on this virus across the political landscape That was evidence. I and ideology last so two thousand twenty four. You're saying president. Caitlyn jenner should destroy all social media coming out of the gate. 'cause brian i was thinking about this with all the nine eleven retrospective stuff earlier this month and you'd think like that happens and it was honestly the most american moment in my lifetime. We were all on the same side with that in we. Aw embraced new york. I was living in boston. Is a time and it it. I don't wanna say patriotic. But there was like a patriotic element that sprung out of that where it was like. Hey we gotta rebuild new york. This can't happen us and you could feel it and we're all in it together and i was thinking like what that happened. In two thousand twenty one how immediately it would have become this polarizing thing and people taking sides and trying to blame and pitting each other. That was not what nine eleven was like. Nine eleven was really weirdly. Communal did you. Did you notice that at all when you're watching that stuff. It was interesting. 'cause i one thing i read and all the retrospectives was there. Was this idea that. Of course you know. In the immediate aftermath there was a sense of pulling together and you know coming together as one but pretty quickly that dissolved know and it became one of those things where you know everybody says oh. Wasn't that great world pulled together in the look back and say actually we did you know and so. When did that change. That was like what like a couple of months later or sooner than that. I don't know. Derek may be able to pin down the date better than i can but it was i don. I would say that it was it. Wasn't that long. After and in fact we did go in lots of different directions as a country. And we've not you know this has led us to the path where we are now are been a data point on the path where we are now. So i don't know. I'm really don't yeah. Guess fox news definitely at some point started working.
"derek thompson" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"You know they got out of it. But it's just a little alarming. That years people are still getting it and having no idea how they got it. Oh was it at my son's literally game was that at you know was was it from the uber driver who took me from pointing to point. Be like it's definitely. I was definitely more optimistic. The last few times. I've seen you on zooms with when this is going to end. Yeah i mean look the first to say all pandemic sent every pandemic has ended and this one is going to end to when it ends you know hopefully in the next few months and not something that lasts several years i definitely feel like delta was it was a steroidal challenge like whatever covert look like in march delta was covert on steroids and the vaccines clearly have held up on the infection side as well as people were hoping they would hold up in march and april but were they'd held up really really well is on the most important fronts. They've held up really well and severe illness and it held up really well on deaths. And that's why you see month that germans that the line between unvaccinated deaths and vaccinated mortality continues to grow and grow grow so. I don't think that the last few months have made the decision of get vaccinated. Don't get vaccinated more complicated. If anything i think it simplified it because delta is been so much more contagious that it's all the more deadly for people that aren't vaccinated. But absolutely i i. I wish that we were still in the april world where it looked like we would have finally beat this thing We might just be a year off at some point. The combination of explanations national unity and unfortunately deaths will will end this pandemic and hopefully it is the next few months. This one's for both you. And then derek you can go Brian you take it. I do you feel like the way. The media has covered kobe and and the cove porn that we basically had where it's like. I go on my apple news and you see the four stories on the left and one of them is always like a unvaccinated. Mom dies of co vaccinated. Mom has complications or whatever combined with The fact that we don't talk about hospitalizations and deaths as much as we talk about kobe cases where it seems like hospitalizations and deaths have dropped significantly and it seems like the mainstream media should really be focusing on that hammering home because it's the best case to get the vaccine but yet it's always about cova cases cova cases and it's always leaning toward you know kind of extreme examples or some crazy story and things like that just from a media coverage standpoint. Are we doing a good enough job yet. It's an interesting question. i mean i feel. I've tried to really avoid those kinds of stories and listened to smart people like derek and read smart people like derek on the subject. Because if there's ever been subject where you pick two or three people and just went with them for the entire. The pandemic and sort of probably collapsed. Your maybe your news reading into a handful of people. This has been one of them for me. And i don't mean you should read widely and all that kind of stuff. But i've just tried to find people i like and i trust and read them and sorta shut out a lot of that noise. I've done the same. Derek what do you think i think fit one of the one of the pre existing conditions the media that has been exposed by this virus is the fact that sometimes when we're very confused we have a very small number of hands to play and one of them is the shame game. And you see that. I think you know certainly on. I think i think you'll see a too much on.
"derek thompson" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"As well as the prestige. Tv podcast which we kind of relaunched and having a lot of fun with that. It is sopranos fame episode on their last week recapped first and second episodes of the show. Which is the most ridiculous show about. That mean amanda dominance had something on there monday David shoemaker and i are going to be Talked about this season. Finale of heels a stars wrestling show that we love thou next monday but we have a bunch of stuff on there billions. Ted lasso succession coming up on there. So check it out the prestige. Tv podcast coming up. Dare thompson from the atlantic and bryan curtis from the ringer. We're going to be talking about the nba and vaccines and media day and players dowana vaccinated. And where's this going to go. And how does it tie into everything. That's happened in this country. Then brian gonna stay on where it talking about twenty years or pardon the interruption and then finally one of my favorite actors billy crude up. I don't know it's been fifteen years. I don't know how he hasn't been out but We talked about the morning show and all the movies made including made a movie called almost famous. Which i'm not sure ever mention on this podcast other than the two hundred ninety times. I've mentioned it but there's a lot almost famous talk but this is the it's a really good interview. That's a really good podcast. Let's bring a home art. We're taping this. It is one third civic time. Bryan curtis with ringers here. Desktops slanak is here Both of them have been on this podcast a couple of times over the last few mites this nba.
"derek thompson" Discussed on Recode Media
"Services in a disease that is overwhelmingly spread through the air through aerosols and there were scientific journals publishing scientific papers about the threat of rely on virus being drawn from surfaces. I think that for a variety of reasons. Don't go into the methodology those papers was absolutely horrid but science was saying a bunch of different stuff about this disease and surfaces and so simply saying science with a capital s. Has one conclusion that conclusion fits my ideology that that doesn't jive with reality. And so this again goes the fact that staying on top of a novel corona virus requires constantly thinking through what a bunch of people are saying. That you've mentioned there is a political angle here right. I mean obviously like it's we've seen this study's it's it's basically the thing that most determines whether you're getting vaccinated voted for trump. there's lots of other groups. It's not one monolith. But that's the determine usually the thing that is most likely predicts whether you're getting vaccinated Someone who works at a at a paper record who was following our twitter exchange And was kind of on my side. sent me a note saying it also feels like there's been a major messaging flip from last summer as cases surge again now it's biden administration officials attacking the media coverage and publicly implying. It's play to boost web. Traffic liberals are mocking. The cdc saying they won't abide by. Its guidance. does that. I think i think there's something to i mean. It's it's not a neat analogy because you had again. You had a trump administration and republicans going out of their way to play down or a real threat and this is a little bit different but it. There's something there. Yeah i can see how look any administration is going to want the press to represent reality in a way that his administration so the trump team obviously had an extremely adversary relationship with the press and is trying to control them into representing things often weren't true and the biden administration seems to me like decaf version of that they would like the press to represent the reality on the ground in a way that makes them look good. That doesn't seem like in a new political phenomenon. I would separately say that. There's definitely a class of people probably Over represented on the sort of centrist and center-left college educated people who just kinda done with this endemic yup. And if you're just kinda done with the pandemic and you got vaccinated with the expectation that meant you can just go back to your life then. You are rooting for your twitter. Feed and your news headlines to represent your internal narrative. which is. i'm fucking done with this. I'm back to back to work. I'm just gonna i'm back. Don't give me headlines suggesting that back is wrong So you know. I find myself sort of adjacent to that ideology to be totally blunt. I would love for this one hundred percent there yet. Feel very. I feel very reds stadium right and so that's a case where again. I just think it's important to i. Guess just be lower case. S scientific about all of this. The data doesn't care about ideology in the data doesn't care about briars and it's hard but important to just keep following for position like like mine to keep following the news and not allow the story that you're rooting for two clips. The story that is derek thompson..
"derek thompson" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Cheapening the award at that point that he didn't have. Yeah it was doing more damage to the academy than it was doing because it's so absurd that he didn't after what he had given to cinema to american cinema. He didn't have this. Oh that's speaking of oscar travesties so he loses for goodfellas. Yes costume winds for dances will. It's costing a great guy. But that i think in retrospect we might do that one of you never never never wins. They know punish them for making a good movie. Yeah but i mean. It's not their fault that they were also nominated that year. That you know. And they're not the ones who it's thousands of people doing this voting so it's not. It's not i always. It's always weird to me when people kind of take out their disappointment on the person who did win. Yeah right right well. All that happened was they made a movie in the somebody gave him an award and they showed up and got it like. You know you're you're you're you're disappointments a little misplaced well. The to travesties were under eight. Exhibited remembers the scorsese. Thank deniro the knocking nominated for the movie. Oh see but again. That's something that light. That's the other thing like liotta be. Yeah wow that will then. That's where he hugh told me that they both did i. Would i would say today. And i love that movie and i'm and i work in highway would be of course they did. They both deserved it. Yeah there's just no question that thirty years later. That movie is what it is. It's like it's so That's why it's not worth getting twisted out of shape about the nominations. Because nobody's gonna remember you know if somebody backed elimination by campaigning. Really well and mike railroaded and get nominated. It's not like it's thirty years. That's gonna mean anything. It's you know it's gonna mean adam he got it wrong. I think still waters can be a little polarizing. I was i was into it. I liked it. But i think there's gonna be some people that are going to be like fuck this movie. Yeah i mean it's not what you think it's gonna be right. I i hope you know. I would want them to sell it as a drama. Because that's what it is draw. You know it's got elements of the thriller in but i but those elements are going to make it look more like liam neeson's movie and we fail entirely on the grounds of it being satisfying action. It's not it's about a guy doesn't have any of the requisite skills.
"derek thompson" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Rooting for him. You know do you talk to them. You have a relationship with them. Occasionally like every once in a while sentiments accidents steps but We did bid for a couple years ago in also so we're not in the same town. Allow ben bumped into him last year before last season before he before he decided which seems daunting but but now we'll see we'll see him sporadically. She seems relentlessly. Positive like relentlessly positive having your life. He's he's just the nicest guy he's nice as he seems in those i mean he's just a relentlessly positive guy amana. Just you know. I mean maybe. It's maybe it's when when when you've created this like virtual virtuous cycle of like goodness. Everything goes right in your life and bring not you know what i mean and it just like every time you walk away like that guy really is. That is so what you what you. He's the guy you root for. I am worried about you know we had. We had a nice run with the boston teams in that. Now that's two thousand twenty s. Now where one year and we have one title. I'm starting to starting itchy. And it's been like a year and a half good celtics right there. Patriots is going to be a while. I think if you ask me. That's that's i don't depends ricky if the rookie. Qb could be good. Because i did the rest of the teams really good kid like are they gonna. Yeah yeah.
"derek thompson" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Our guy derek thompson is here from the atlantic I trust his opinion on a lot of this stuff by this stuff. I mean the things that are in the headlines things. You wonder what's true what's not true. It's happening again with the delta version of the of the co- virus Were seeing a lot of stuff. Lotta habits a lot of rhetoric. A lot of rules being changed a lot of stuff just happening Here in la. You gotta wear masks when you go inside restaurants and stores and things like that I'll just ask you what is happening. What's happening well. The line that everyone is using right now is that we are experiencing pandemic of the unvaccinated. That's the line that everyone is using pandemic of the unvaccinated and typically when a line like that become so ubiquitous. I tend to think it's a sign that it's wrong. But that's my bias. Everyone's saying this it. It can't entirely true nine nine times out of one hundred those popular narratives or a little bit off somehow. Try to zag off of it but i check this one out and it's basically true. This is the one and hundred time at the national narrative. Has it right on. Since february in louisiana unvaccinated people have made up ninety seven percents of copen nineteen deaths since april in alabama unvaccinated. People have made up ninety six percent of deaths in june in maryland. One hundred percent of cova deaths were among the unvaccinated. So what's happening here is that you have all these people who haven't gotten a vaccine and they are crashing into this wave of the delta variant which is significantly more contagious. Maybe more deadly. maybe not. It's a little bit more uncertainty there but definitely more contagious than the oj. Strain of stars covy to and as a result you essentially have in this country. Eighty ninety one hundred million people who don't have natural immunity who don't have vaccine. they're extremely vulnerable. Were seeing it now in the case growth and frankly we're seeing it around the world you look to a country like the uk which just had its huge freedom day. They're seeing a surge in cases that is enormous basically right back to their highest case. Load on records. Just the death Very such a fantastic job of vaccinating their senior population. You're seeing it the in the tokyo olympics. This thing is unbelievably contagious. And it's why we need to rededicate ourselves to the cause of vaccinating as many people as we can as fast as we can. Last time you run you talked about. Could we reward people to get vaccinated and things like that at some point if people don't want to get vaccinated. They're read in the news and they see this stuff and you know the way. It's presented by lot of different news outlets. They're going to sensationalize as much as they can. It's really it's not a kovic surged say. Cova death search for the people that aren't vaccinated with the numbers are still way way down because we have so many people vaccinated but what's happening is over the last couple months. We're seeing more and more deaths every day. And that's what surging. So i i feel like i don't wanna say dishonesty but it. It's almost like incompetence the way it's the story is being presented to everybody. What do you what do you think about that. Yeah one of the things that's bugged me. Is that you know. I think it's important to point out that cases right now aren't a proxy for death the same way that they used to be so that for example you consume see sometimes in headlines you know cases rising here in cases rising hear cases of really just gone crazy in britain but that doesn't necessarily mean the deaths arising at the same rate deaths are rising at the same rate among unvaccinated share of the populations that are included in those cases. So it's kind of funny in a weird way. That people like me were fighting against the narrative that cold. It was just a flu right that it was just a bad cold. Twenty twenty the magic of the vaccines is that they kind of turn cove into a bad cold. A bad flu there are people who gets kovin who are fully vaccinated. Sometimes who get quite sick sometimes. It makes him sick for a few days. He's a rare cases where breakthrough cases. But they aren't dying the most important thing that we need to continue to communicate to people. Is that these vaccines do several things. One they make it less likely that you get covered to contingent on you getting it. It makes kobe significantly less severe and three cases of severe coverted. You're less likely to die. So i think that's a really important case to get across with the vaccines. Because sometimes i think with the media in the headlines people see. Oh my god. There's there's these breakthrough cova cases that proves the vaccines aren't working. No we'll follow the story a little bit further. What happened to those people with breakthrough cases. Who had already been fully vaccinated in ninety nine point nine nine times out of one hundred. They are not dying and that needs to be. I think the emphasis to people who are in this sort of wait and see mode trying to figure out if they want to get this vaccine communicate to people that those scary headlines should not be keeping them on the sidelines. Cove it like a rattlesnake right. The vaccine takes two fangs out of the rattlesnake. And then at the rattlesnakes in my room and i get a bit by the rattlesnake. It's like oh shit. I got bit by rattlesnake but through ashington fags. It.
"derek thompson" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"On what happened. And here's why it's a perfect storm for him to which first of all that injury was such a weird fluke thing if he is on my bench resin he that would have happened. I'm telling you right now. The my facts not know injure. Here's what's perfect. He's coming back for team is hot. they're going to the playoffs. No question and lewis robert louis. Robert whatever you wanna call him is out yet. Took away so much attention because of his height it hurt eli prices instead of it. Being the bash brothers. It was like no no. No here's steph and here's clay without eli is gonna come back again legit power. I think he's a great by There's a prospect in bobby. Witt junior for the royals. Joey voted that kid. I talked to a couple of guys the mlb network. They say he is unbelievably talented. And were we may see him in the majors this year. Which would be insane to see. I think he's a good bye. And i am still very high on onto quarterbacks. I'm high onto a to a lost so much favor last year and a lot of guys say he can't play. I just to a has weird thing. I just think he's going to be a winner. I think miami's a good team to was pricing to it. Makes sense to me. The gap in the price disparity between him and borough him and herbert is so great right now. And i think we see because the new quarterback class coming in is unbelievably priced. You can't touch lawrence for x. Amount of dollars but oh i can get a nice to for that and if he performs it can so i like to and then i hate to. I don't know you know. I compliment the steelers. I guess this is just as bad. I think dak prescott said goodbye again compared to the talk prescott comeback yet. He's he's low. I mean his foots. In ninety seven pieces auditor can still play. But the amount of hype. I mean like last week the story was does dak challenged mahomes ram vp. Just these ridiculous stories but there. Yeah so much hype around him. The market is reflective of two things on field performance and hype and lately quite frankly hype as more important than anything else. I just think that's a perfect storm for him in dallas. I like two thousand sixteen dak prescott rookie stuff. I may not jerry judy. On the broncos while is a really good advance. There's some good advanced metrics with him. Now that if you look at the quarterback he was forced to play with versus the stuff he was doing that he was as good as jefferson just with like a way whereas quarterback. I like jefferson to yes. He's that brings in cd lamb too. I mean lamp can play. He played very well. With no quarterback if deck comes in and just naturally liked ac. I have to like c. d. and i think that could be a good deal for this new draft coming up pits. The guy for me. 'cause you think like gronk kraken kelsey as as tight end. We'll think about the gronk. The gronk run that went on right. I just yeah. I don't like tight ends. I i mean look what. He's a generational tight end. That's got like kelsey. Kelsey is a good deal. Kelsey is like thirty one can have a couple of years left. You know he's going to be in the playoffs a few more times. And it's gonna be like rock kelsey tony gonzalo as shannon sharpe improbably. Probably this pits kids like the five most productive tight ends. We've had really don't make it. I don't like spot either. Atlanta with no hulio. I i like how ridley enough but again now calverley is solely the number one new offensive coordinator. Sorry new head coach. Who used to be the titans offense coordinator all right. Listen last was trae young. Last i went on your podcast. I predicted the trae. Young also said laughed at me. Wasn't you garner. was your football deep sleep. I stand by it. You're standing by the. I stand by the gardner menchu sleeper call. He's going to have a moment. Somebody's team if he has a big moment. Starting i'm gonna girl the same fu manchu. He has an trae. Young was tough. You are right about trae on on the court but there's never affected. The cards never affected the hobby which makes sense in the real world. But that's how it plays there. I'll tell you the one super deeps not super deeper deeper. I love is rondell. More the kid forever. Zona second round pick. I think that's a perfect spot for him. Next those receivers. Do you know why that trae young. It never affected his cart. 'cause the card was already too high. Everybody bought in like these guys are already superstars and we see that every year with the high end guys. It's going to happen lamelo this year. I mean think of the the raw bellows were going crazy. Numbers people even though they're graded or not trae young's villain and embraces that. He's my favorite basketball great. Now i love it. Well larry earn. I guess number one than him had the legend before we go The psa stuff is gonna get sorted out over the next six months you think. No i'm i'm just off the psa train i've been using s. gmc. They have the most valuable cards ever sold. Now there's a honus wagner going. They sold a six million dollar ruth..
"derek thompson" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Which i think has a chance to be the best car to the last. I don't know how many years if he if he does what i think he's gonna do. Yes so last year the talk was. We had never seen a prospect and a again just an hobby terms elway's probably the greatest prospector or andrew. Luck but in terms of the hobby. Because of timing we had never seen a hobby. Prospect like jonesboro ever. I mean when product for started releasing which always releases months before they step on the field. The prices were astronomical. But we've seen that shattered now with trump alarms. I mean all the other guys are almost on par with borough in herbert last year. Zach wilson fields the hype around them enough but oh by the way we also have the number one prospect value is ever really. Change your luck. Yeah yeah and andrew lock like in twenty twelve. There was no hobby market for football. So i like this kid is like skill is there. But then like the hype. He's he's the design of the nfl. Like that's the effect he's had on cards already For twenty twenty one football product. It's it's nuts and then you have the trae land pieces. Well where trae lamb knows kids. The one who's like shanahan was in on him. Apparently really early those quarterbacks really well and he could be asleep or two but it's fun to see the rejuvinated football mark and then baseball's another orne it. They was talking about others. No stars baseball but it certainly has been reflected in the hobby the two thousand nineteen which which was at the bowman. One is like this iconic rookie set now. Who's in that one one of them. Yes so two thousand nineteen bowman which is one of the first products that comes out every year that has like the prospects is wonder. Franco's first card monster money also has got him. Julio rodriguez now we're gonna prospects but monster bat coming. J rod jet gerard absolute monster and i like him better than iran. Because he was a yankee. Markle lucia any of these kids. Who have incredible hype and they come up in these products in the product. Just go through the roof and bowman always is like kind of z name-brand baseball for those kids. You and i had the same theory on baseball rookie cards. I'm out on our pitchers at all times. I don't pitchers it's the same thing for this. Aol keeper league and we always try to just dropped hitters. 'cause you draft this pitcher and it's like oh my god he's the best college arm and then the guy is hurt a week later whereas at least a haters there's some sort of injuries stability now like some of the illinois got hurt this year. So it's not. The caters can't get hurt but allies. Coming back this week but it seems like the last five years or so at least like with fla- junior and tattoos and and it just seems like we're in the middle of a boom. I don't know how how's it translated to cards compared to what you thought would happen yet. So i've i've notoriously been down on otani. 'cause i got burned. The first year i bought him as like this phoenix. He's going to be great. And then i just held because i thought hey will see the ruth comparisons and the hype and he got injured the first couple of years so i got murdered sold off cut my losses and was like bitter about it. Oh of course. I i hate otani healthier taty. Yeah just dude go break your leg. Take a team jerk. I just totally wrong but otani stuff now is unbelievably expensive. I mean it's it should be patties and what's cool is now not only. Do we have like these guys hitting in playing great arguably some of not arguably. They are the best names in baseball. But it's like baseball's kinda fun again. Like yeah i am. I'm younger than you. select me. Griffey was the only guy who was fun to watch the rest of it was like a bunch of stiff guys who didn't care if they cared but they were just boring even trout. What's trove ever done this interesting. I know he's great talent. No question otani so much more fun than show. It's weird weirdo. Us always you but you nailed the otani thing and then you somehow lost money on it. Even though all of your instincts were correct. You went all in autumn. He just got early. Guess what you quit quitter. There's no room for quitters in this hobby. Gio here's you quit on a guy. Trustor instincts How like if you were a friend. Terry apart and i can't the boss relationship i just sit here and take. Yeah i i was so yeah i i was too early selling but then it's like i dunno if you held it for a year and a half hats off to you but if it ties up your capital i i never know what to do with. I'm always one. If i think it's going downhill. I'm cutting my losses all-year your batting average. Your batting average has been pretty great with us i. The highlight is the The early two thousands brady stuff. Yeah that's that's how you should be if you ever get famous for this stuff. They'd right the giant magazine profil. That'll be like the lead of the profile. How you were just all in on tom terrific. It's just gonna say. Simmons lackey got lucky headline london. And we've been writing team at the ringer. Siamese with the podcast until you until you're brady story. Yeah brady. I just held onto forever. I threw up watching the guy so i would spine his stuff forever..
"derek thompson" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Meghji assefi from our sports cards nonsense. Pack on the ringer is gonna talk about janas cards. The explosion there and all the twists and turns. The hobby is taken. So we have him at the top derek thompson from the atlantic is gonna tell us what's going on with these covert spikes. What's true what's not true Some of the fallacies we go into it. I go is there. And then last but not least matt damon for the third time. Ever on this podcast And every time it's been great years new movie coming out with that talk sports talk movies all kinds of things so action packed. Podcast for he gets of it. Wanted to mention really quickly. I left out. Walt frazier russillo. And i did the podcast on tuesday night. It was right after the bucks won the title and i was trying frantically writing down like the greatest close up performances at ever seen all that i somehow left out while frazier. Nineteen seventy finals. The willis reed game willis hits the first two shots. Here comes willis. That's known as the wolves game and then lost in history. Was that frazier was the guy who actually won the game. And he was amazing. Thirty six points. nineteen says. he's all over the place. That's the greatest game ever played. It's one honestly one of the greatest games any guard has ever played. I would put it up there with magic's triple double and In a below jordan and against ninety jazz. But in general an all time classic. And i think i even wrote a book like this has been forgotten history and then i ended up forgetting it on tuesday so i was really mad that i forgot that i remember that a couple of hours later i was like. Oh my god. I didn't have well frazier in their the. The other thing just would be honest I was thinking about the you know his ability to defend on the other because we talked about that a lot when you're talking about the great finals performances and usually gravitates the offense of that right shack at thirty point. Seven rebounds probably wasn't as disruptive on the defensive just thinking about janas the last couple of days since that title and His ability to be able to guard any single player on the floor. It didn't matter who as his one through five versatility on defense When he's really playing at the highest possible level is thinking about that a lot like that kind of got lost with the fifty points and you know thirty five and thirteen for the series and all the great stuffy date and how he evolved in his free throw shooting which is just out of control that he made that many free throws but His ability to guard. Chris paul in game six but then could also guard eytan could basically he got kevin durant you name. He could have defended it when you really needed it. And i think as spend the summer thicky about him historically That piece of the ability to guard anybody in the plant at one through five not to mention the chase down box and the intimidation and i was thinking about that play with when he seemed like he got hurt on the booker chase down block when he was just flying down the court really for no reason like you throw away that player. You're gonna play forty five minutes that night Whatever it ended up being an it's like sometimes it's okay if you're not going one hundred and twenty percent and he's just was in that mode and he's flying down like randy boss. Try and block booker from doesn't get it. Seems like it's but that was just an amazing game. I've been thinking about it for two days. I've just i love basketball. The most out of all the sports i love. I love sports but basketball is my favorite and to watch guy. Just go all in like that. In every sense of the word and will himself to become better will himself to mentally solve. These things you know even the free throw shooting It's it's one of those things where i actually feel like. We didn't make enough out of it even though everybody talks about it for two days. It's like man. This is just one of those rare times. It's like when lebron b. boston that time in two thousand twelve and he just went to another level and that was it he was a different player from that game on. And i do think jaanus is different parts. Weird talk about him in a second with geo from sports cards nonsense but Just.
"derek thompson" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"You know what i've noticed. A lot of athletes turning into plant based is to improve their health and performance. I wasn't one hundred percent convinced listening. Chris paul completely rejuvenated his career. I voted firm for fourth firm. Vp this year. is one hundred percent plant based he's having a season makes you want to check it out. I remember steve nash. In the late two thousands was he got rid of sugar. He started doing all this diet. Stuff and then superstars started emulate that and how to eat healthier. Now it's gone to hold their level watching. What happened of chris paul over the last couple of years when it seemed like you know his past his prime clearly not anymore definitely had something that the plant based performance right well was summer just around the corner beyond me to serving up the new even better beyond burger. It's meteors juicier. It has thirty five percent less saturated fat than eighty twenty beef. It tastes just like classic burger. It's really good. You feel energized after you eat. One and right now beyond meat is offering listeners. A coupon for two dollars off their next purchase by head into beyond me dot com slash. Bill simmons or else brought to you by the ringer dot com as well as the ringer. Podcast network and ringer films were brought by then too because we have the first film from our music box documentary series. That is on. Hbo in two thousand twenty one sneak preview. Going up on. Friday woodstock ninety nine piece levin rage directed by gary price. Really proud of this on the reviews have been really good I think it's excellent. I can't wait for you to watch it. you can watch it on. Hbo nine o'clock et on friday. July twenty third as soon as it comes available on. hbo As soon as it starts rolling it's also available on. Hbo maxi can catch it. Catch up on it on they're all weekend We've also we've supplemented that on the ringer dot com with the. This is the end we were. We've had a couple of different pieces about you. Know if the theory is woodstock ninety nine brought the nineties to an end what other things came to an end. Some good pieces on there as well from katie bakes and brian phillips and others on Rob villas sixty songs. That explains the nineties podcasts. He broke down limp. Biscuits nookie limp. Isg is in this movie. I am going to be interesting to see what your reaction is to olympics. Get in this movie. It in is a lot of ways there apex about and But they also contribute to a lot of the problems at this festival. Had so cannot wait for you to watch this film and the rest of them will be available later in the year in the november december age. But we're really pumped about About the whole series and hbo has been great. They've been a great partner excited for you to watch so there. You go Before we get to the podcast which includes our guest.
Two Atlanta Suspects Sought in Connection with Banks County Burglaries
"Wanted for some business burglaries in the bank's county area earlier this year. Dennis James Elliott and J. D. Derek Thompson are believed to be responsible for breaking in a three businesses in the bank's crossing complex on January 19th between two and 3 a.m.. Authorities did not say how much was taken. But they are asking for the public's help in finding the men. You can see their photos and contact information for detectives on access Wdun If you're thinking about a holiday getaway at a Georgia
Researchers Throw Cold Water on the Panic Around COVID-19’s Alleged Short-Lived Immunity
"There was a study put out by King's College in London a few weeks ago, which found that covid nineteen antibodies in people who had been infected largely disappeared after two months. The headlines about covid nineteen immunity being temporary were all over the place with more than a few implying that this means will never have a truly effective vaccine and never truly defeat the coronavirus. It's all terrifying so I wanted to share some insight from Derek. Thompson over at the Atlantic spoke with a number of experts to get a deeper understanding of the study and inject some good news into all of the headline fearmongering. Now I'm not going to tell you that. The study was totally wrong and that we're all going to be completely fine nothing about covid nineteen is completely good news, but as Shane Crotty of urologist at the La Hoya Institute for -Nology told the Atlantic actually looking at the data. I feel okay about it. Quoting further from the Atlantic acquired immunity is. Memory when our bodies fight off infection, we want our immune systems to remember how to defeat it again like a person who, after solving a big jigsaw puzzle recognizes and remembers how to set the pieces the next time. The whole point of vaccination is to teach the immune system those same puzzle solving lessons without exposing it to the full virus. This is why Casey L. study initially seemed so dreadful it. It found that the number of certain active antibodies called neutralizing antibodies declined significantly between tests especially in patients with mild or no symptoms. Antibody levels are one proxy for the Immune System's memory. If they plunged quickly, that might mean that our immune system can't remember how to solve covid nineteen for more than a few months at a time do minus to start from square one with each new exposure end quotes. Now while those findings from the King's college study are definitely concerning, there are three main reasons to be skeptical about the study and therefore hopeful for futures. I, the study only looked at one part of our immune system, our vast mysterious immune system about which there remain many unknowns quoting again when a new pathogen enters, the body are adaptive immune system calls up a team of BCL's with produce antibodies and t cells to over simplify the B. Cells antibodies intercept and bind to invading molecules and the killer t cells seek and destroy infected cells, Evaluating Immune Response Without A. T cells is like inventory, national air force, but leaving out the bomber jets, and in the case of covid nineteen, those bomber jets could make the biggest difference. A growing collection of evidence suggests that t cells provide the strongest and longest lasting immunity cove in nineteen, but this study didn't measure them at all end quote, further study and a Francis Strasbourg university hospital found that patients recovering from covid nineteen had strong t cell responses, despite not having any detectable antibodies. Now second decline in antibodies that unusual Shane Crotty the Varela gist from the Loy. Institute for Immunology. said quote it unusual to have feeding antibody response after several months the off. Isn't that surprising when you look at something like the smallpox vaccine easy the antibody responses down about seventy five percent after six months, but that's a vaccine that works for decades. We need a study like this to look at Cova patients six months after infection to really know what we're dealing with and quote. And third, and finally it's possible that even these low levels of antibodies could trigger a larger immune response in the future like if the individual is exposed to SARS Cov to again, this goes back to the immunological memory. It's like the memories and that strong when it's not confronted, but win the trigger of the virus returns, so does the memory. Even beyond the critiques of this one study that caused so much panic in the news, there remain many other reasons to be hopeful. Vaccine Research continues to steamroll along at an unprecedented pace. Several studies on monkeys have shown strong long lasting immune response and a new study shows that patients who recovered from SARS East Asia indeed have long lasting t cell immunity. Plus Journalists Noah. Smith shared on twitter, pointing to research from immunologist professor. Akiko, it was sake. This news about antibodies doesn't necessarily mean the vaccine would be ineffective because quoting Sake, vaccines can elicit stronger immune response than natural. Those covid nineteen vaccines can and should induce more robust and durable protection than natural infection end quote. As no Smith sums it all up quote. One antimony bunnies aren't the only thing that can give you. Immunity to your body can probably remember how to make new antibodies and three vaccines can potentially give you longer lasting immunity than you'd get from actually getting covid end quote.
Virginia State Police launch criminal probe into 2019 traffic stop incident after lawyer tweets video
"News, a lawyer has released a dramatic video that he says shows a Virginia state trooper threatening his client. Confrontation happened during a traffic stop on the Beltway last April of last year. You're gonna get your ass in front of the board in all creation. Derek Thompson of Woodbridge can be seen refusing to get out of his car after he was pulled over for an expired inspection decal. It was also determined he had a suspended license, and he eventually pleaded guilty to that plus obstruction of justice without force, But now his lawyer says the video is proof Thompson was assaulted during the arrest. A statement from Stapley says Trooper Charles he was conduct in the video violated the agency standards. He's now on administrative
Why the pandemic is getting worse, and how to think about the future
"Okay Richard, so there are about forty seven different things we could talk about to unpack the story of how we got here in where we're going, but we chose a few of the big ones to focus on in this episode, so testing was a mess at the beginning. It seemed to get better for a little bit, and now it seems like it's a mess again, so what happened? Well it is complicated. Let's take you back to the beginning of the epidemic when the decided to develop its own test for the corona virus, which is standard practice for them, but honestly they bungled it, and instead of reaching for tests developed in Germany and distributed widely by the World Health Organization the CDC fix this quickly, and they kept trying, but really that turned out to be a big mistake, and it cost us a lot of time. I think the CDC didn't really realize the scope of this epidemic early on federal health officials should have done what South Korea did for instance what they did overseas immediately spur commercial companies to produce large quantities of tests. The US eventually got to that point, but you know it was really late, and now, of course we are in better shape. The US is averaging something like six hundred thousand tests a day or sometimes even more than that, but. It's still far short of the amount of tests that experts say we should be doing. Yeah, and let me ask you about that. Because I've seen estimates that we need to be doing like double or triple, the amount of tests to really control the virus right and you know the number of tests you need to do is really relative to the number of infected people, so we have so many infected people, and that number is growing. We really need to be doing a lot more testing. For example scientists at the World Health Organization uses a rule of thumb that you should have enough tests that your when you get the results back only about five percent or coming back positive. That, means that most of the people are negative, which is what you'd hope what you'd expect right now. Unfortunately, we have states like Texas and Florida in Arizona where the number of percent positive is like seventeen, eighteen or even twenty five percent, and you know the percent positive rates keep going up, which means it's definitely not true as the president has frequently claimed at the cases are only writing, because we're testing more. No seeing more positive cases as we see more tests so okay. Let's talk about the case numbers of it back in April we were at about you know thirty thousand cases per day and now we're. Sixty thousand new cases a day, which is objectively worse and to put that in perspective, sixty thousand people wouldn't even fit in dodger stadium, which is the biggest baseball stadium in this country, so we're talking about you know. Give you a visual image of what we're talking about it right right and you know. Some of that is driven by big outbreaks in places like California, Texas and Florida. Let's talk a little. Little bit more about why cases are up in those places. Yeah, it's complicated series of reasons, but some of it is that we're what we were talking about a little bit earlier. Some of these were in states like Texas and Arizona that were determined to open really early, and we're a lot of people including politicians thought you know starting. Their economies was more important than being really cautious about the virus. Could also be other stuff at play here because you know it is summer, and those are places that very hot, so more people are spending more time in air conditioning that is to say indoors and one thing we know about this virus is spread more likely indoors among people who are stuck together for at least fifteen minutes or longer in an indoor space. Yeah, honestly like this idea of being indoors is something I've been thinking about. Because I'm looking ahead right and we're looking at the fall in the winter when you're going to have the exact same thing happening all over the country like more people forced indoors. That correlates with of course, the beginning of seasonal flu, circulating some people in the hospital. That kind of stuff right it's going to. We're going GONNA have both epidemics happening at once. It's going to be a real mess. Okay, let's talk a little bit about mortality or people dying from the disease, so the president and others have pointed out in the last few weeks that the numbers of people dying per day are down from early on in the pandemic, and that is true back in mid April. There were days where we had well over two thousand people dying each day, and in the last week or so the US is seeing more like hundred people dying every day on average, although that number seems to be rising again. Let's talk about a few reasons why that could be why we're seeing fewer deaths now than earlier right well, certainly, one of the biggest reasons is not the biggest reason that the death rates are so low now compared to the spring when New York City got clobbered as you recall is nowadays the viruses infecting mainly younger people, and they just frankly less likely to die in Arizona for instance of these days, half the cases are in people aged twenty to forty four years old and only. Only eleven percent of cases and people over sixty five, and of course people over sixty five, or really at the highest risk of death, and you know that that shift younger age groups is both good and bad. The good part diseases hitting a population that can more easily survive, though we should say some people do die should bad part is that the spread is accelerating and putting vulnerable people at higher risk, because now the virus is traveling far and wide and putting more older people and. And people with underlying health conditions in harm's way right and you know one thing to note though is that especially in the younger demographic? This is where we see a lot of the huge racial disparities up, basically which young people are surviving and dying a paper out of Harvard June showed that in this twenty five to thirty four age group, the mortality rate for black people was seven times more than for white people really matters. Who are the those young people are right? It absolutely does. Does the overall risk of death is very very low in this age group, but it does absolutely hit some people harder than others, particularly because more people of color are at risk for contracting the disease because of their jobs, they have to be out and about and also underlying health conditions may also be playing a role here. Yeah, so it appears more young people are getting sick. Fewer of them ultimately die, but to be clear. Young people do get very sick and die from the virus. So that's one reason we're seeing fewer deaths right now. Compared to the beginning of the pandemic as far as why the numbers of deaths don't seem to be matching up with the increase, in cases, yet is partially due to the fact that deaths are what we call a lagging indicator Derek Thompson at the Atlantic wrote a really nice piece on. This will make sure to put in. The episode notes for Richard Let's talk about that a little bit right. Yeah, it's a very plainly put. There's a gap in time between the day someone test positive until the day the either recover or unfortunately die, and then of course. Course there's another lag in which that death is reported health officials. So what you're seeing now. It really in-depth really reflects people who got sick. You know two or three weeks ago or even longer than that, so that's one reason why deaths have not followed in lockstep with a big spike in cases. Yeah, and then there's also this thing called lead time bias right right, and that's basically a phenomenon where data can make it seem like something new is happening, but actually just about how you're collecting. The data with the increases in testing. We've seen in these past few months. We may simply be detecting more this. This virus earlier in people than we did before, people may have been really sick and not get tested to the hospital now people are driving up in their cars right and doing okay, and so there earlier on in the course of disease, but that doesn't really change the percentage of cases that wind up being fatal. It will just take longer than it did early on in the epidemic for those fatalities to show up and of course Richard there a ton of complications that we didn't have time to get into more hospital capacity ventilators, so what sheep the hospitals in actually plays a role in who survives and who? Who doesn't and then you know even though there isn't a cure, of course, doctors have had more time to learn how to treat this disease, so we don't have a lot of data on this yet. In the United States, but it seems like perhaps more people are surviving this disease than right in the beginning right, I think that is clearly the case and you know as long as hospitals aren't totally overwhelmed with patients. They can make use of what they've learned so far to improve treatments. I'll give you just one example steroids which are used to reduce inflammation. Turn out to be quite useful in many instances. So Richard I'm curious like overall how you're feeling looking at where we are compared to. Let's say April, there are ways in which I feel like are a lot more prepared like we understand the virus. A little better were obviously farther along on a vaccine and some potential treatments, but we still don't have adequate testing. Cases are at an all time high. We're heading into the fall, which means we're GONNA, have this consolidation of cold and flu and corona season, plus the schools potentially opening up your really cheering me up here. But maybe the most concerning fig just to keep you just to keep you down. Richard is that I? Just don't feel like we are a country with like one central goal to fight this thing together. Yeah well I think. I would agree with that first off a corona virus vaccine is not going to help much at least not in this coming flu season. Even if one is amazingly enough approved by the end of the year, we'll take really a long time to vaccinate enough people to make a big difference. What really could help would be a good flu vaccine. I think only about half of Americans typically get the flu shot every year and public health officials say if they can dramatically increase that it would really help a lot against this sort of one two punch that we're going to have to be confronting. But you're right about the country, not working well together on this starting with leadership both at the federal level, and also tim states, but also including people who are ignoring all the guidance that's going all the good advice from scientists and people are hesitant to get vaccines because of misinformation. As for testing you know by the fall. There will be some help. I expect doctors offices should have a supply of Rapid Kobe tests. They're like rapid strep test, or whatever the aren't super accurate, but they can help relieve some of the testing bottleneck and sort of looking down the line a little bit farther. Scientists are also working on next generation of tests that you might even be able to do. Do at home and you know those might be ready sometime. Next year next year seems pretty discouraging, doesn't it? It's pretty far off, but you know I'm pretty well resigned to the fact that we're going to be in this for the long haul. covid nineteen is going to be with us for years so even technology that seems far off right now. We'll still be needed
The Post Pandemic City
"The economic reopening in a lot of cities is still in its early stages right now in New York. It just started yesterday, but it is still possible to discern a few big trends. One of the most important trends, the world retail stores might be changed forever. The simple reason is that people have shifted to buying things online just incredibly fast in this crisis they've had to. They haven't been able to actually walk into stores and a lot. Lot of retail companies the ones that tend to sell their goods in physical location, the old fashioned way they are going to struggle to reopen at all clothing stores. Big Department stores were already in trouble because of e-commerce Derek. Thompson is a writer for the Atlantic magazine and he just published an article about the future of cities. He says there are a lot of those kinds of stores. The US in general is dramatically over stored over. Over retailed we have approximately ten times more retail space per capita than Germany about five times where retail space per capita than the UK and that means if a lot of economic activity goes online, a lot of the stores are going to have to be shut in a city. These stores are often clustered together in certain neighborhoods, so if they start closing up in big numbers, people are going to notice the difference just going to. To be a lot of boarded up windows. Of course, this isn't going to happen to every business. Some businesses Derek likes to say are un-. Amazon Apple, which means you cannot buy online with these businesses are selling like working out in a gym or eating inside of a restaurant or a bar. In cities, those businesses were already taking up more of the retail space before the pandemic, but there is a problem both restaurants and fitness centers. Create conditions that based on our current understanding of Covid nineteen are just about the worst possible conditions that you can be in for transmissibility of this disease. It's inside spaces that often aren't well ventilated or people are packed together and they're also. They're often talking or sweating, so the kinds of businesses that were already in trouble before the pandemic retail stores, department stores aren't even more trouble now while the kinds of places with a good chance of thriving long run like gyms and bars and restaurants are exactly those places that will continue to be most threatened by the virus in. In the short run at least until there is a vaccine or or some other solution answers, Derek there is another trend that is changing what cities look like. He calls it the chain of vacation of cities, so before the pandemic big national chain of restaurants and retail stores had been replacing some of the smaller independent quirky kind of weird businesses that often will make a city interesting between two thousand, eight and two thousand eighteen New York. City added a new. Dunkin donuts franchise approximately every twelve days every twelve days a new Dunkin. DONUTS in New York City for ten straight. Small, independent businesses have less access to raising money than be companies do so. They are more at risk of closing down if they start running out of cash to pay their bills, tens of thousands of small businesses have closed down for good because of the pandemic, and that is going to give big chains, even more of a foothold in cities. And that's not all along. With these huge changes to the retail landscape of cities think about two other trends that have also been accelerated by the crisis. I more people are working from home now, which means fewer people are otherwise going to corporate offices like the ones often headquartered in big cities and second of all population growth in cities is lagging behind suburbs. In fact, the populations of New York and Chicago actually fell last year. When you add it all up, it means that in the near future whole parts of big densities like new. York could be quiet and a lot emptier. emptier than they were before. We haven't even mentioned movie theaters, museums, playhouses, concert and sporting venues, the places that often provide cities with so much of their kinetic energy, but these are also the kinds of places that are expected to be the last to open Derek. Thompson says you take all these trends together, and it shows how the pandemic is acting as a kind of tax on crowdedness that means it's a tax on what makes cities cities I love cities because of their diversity because of their bustle, because of that that from of people, and this is going to punish that thing. So, you could be rough times ahead for
Why Should We Care About Privacy?
"Internet is broken. And nowhere is it's broken. This more obvious than in the endless series of scandals in one particularly sensitive subjects, but there's another privacy crisis brewing. And Facebook is reportedly bugs Aqaba says he's sorry about the privacy, data breach. Constitutional amendment to protect our privacy. Cyber security experts are calling a popular app on Facebook privacy nightmare more than seventeen million. Everybody's talking about privacy. These days who has it who doesn't which companies are taking it away and how to get it back. But I have a confession. And I'm a little nervous to say this out loud because I don't want to sound like a fool in the first episode of this season. But I have no idea what privacy even means anymore. And I sort of get the feeling a lot of you don't either we complain about. Alexa, listening to our orders about Instagram targeting us with ads about smart devices tracking our behavior, but every year, we buy more, Alexa products post more on Instagram by more smart devices. If you ask Americans have online privacy is in a state of crisis. They say, yes. But if you ask them, would you actually pay for devices and apps that would guard your identity, two thirds of them say, no. So we value privacy. We just value it it, exactly. Zero dollars zero cents. This divergence between are complaining and our behavior. Drives me a little nuts. Like come on people. We can't buy rooms at the panopticon hotel. And then complain about the surveillance this discrepancy between attitude and behavior is not a paradox. I can explain it to you ho. Thank god. And. Welcome back to crazy genius season. Three our theme for the next date episodes on break the internet. I up the privacy wars when people think about what's wrong with the internet. They think about privacy, but before we can figure out how to fix it. We need to agree on what it is. And what if anything is at stake when it comes to protecting our private data is everybody a bunch of paranoid hypocrites or am. I the crazy one. For the Atlantic. I'm Derek Thompson. This is crazy. Why are you interested in privacy? Isn't everybody? Interested in privacy that Sarah, I go she's a history. Professor at Vanderbilt University. She literally wrote the book on the history of privacy in America the known citizen. I wanted to know what is privacy. What does it mean? And have we always been as worried about it as we are? Now privacy is one of those interesting values that really doesn't surface until it's violated. So people don't enunciate it until they think they don't have it. I go told me privacy isn't a stable concept. And it hasn't always been that controversial, what's really striking. When you look at the period before say, the late nineteenth century, really before the civil war. You don't actually find a lot of public debates around privacy. You don't even find the word privacy in these debates. Pull up a copy of the US constitution on your computer, control. F search for the word privacy zero results. The closest you'll get is something like the third amendment. No. Soldier Shelby quartered in any house without the consent of the owner. But in the seventeen hundreds most Americans didn't even own a house. Most Americans in fact, were not particularly entitled to privacy, unless they were propertied unless they were men and heads of households lots of people didn't even own their own labor, for instance, if you think about enslaved people in the United States, and so, you know, we're talking about a pretty small sector of the population that thought of itself as entitled to privacy. Wh what do you think changed in the late nineteenth century such that Americans relationship to privacy really had a turning point in that period, but comes to the fore in the late nineteenth century is that all these new technologies kind of make privacy precarious in a way that it hadn't been before photography is one example, instantaneous photography amateurs, taking photographs being able to publish and trade images of people that were in a real sense kind of private images. But also telephone lines. Telegraph. Cables that made communications faster and more convenient and less expensive in certain ways, but also much more porous. So that you get worries about wiretapping and listening in and so forth. So whole bunch of technologies are one 'cause telegraphs and photographs brought tech into our personal space. But something else was getting into our personal space. Other people in the eighteen hundreds Americans moved from sparse farms into dense cities, people didn't realize they valued privacy until it disappeared. And they were forced to sleep eat work and live all on top of other people those things kind of collide in a in a pretty serious fashion in the late nineteenth century, and we'll give rise to the first modern calls for a right to privacy. So where does this term right to privacy come from pretty late? It's in eighteen ninety and it comes from a Harvard law review essay written by Louis Brandeis and Samuel Warren. Louis Brandeis would eventually moved to the supreme court, and they call for what they called a. Right to be let alone they believe that this is a right that people have against various kinds of invaders of their private affairs and private lives. And what were they responding to? They were talking about a right to privacy from an aggressive press from journalists who were scouring especially the lives of the elite for scandalous stories about divorce, and it's amazing. So the original right to privacy was a right to privacy from journalists. Yes. So from private actors, but also from what Warren and Brandeis called the new devices that allowed things that were meant to be expressed in private to be shouted from the rooftops snooping. Journalists and newfangled telephones weren't the only things freaking out Americans. There was also the mail when postcards were authorized and then went on sale. They were immensely popular. But they will immediately. Also cause a backlash by editorialists and moralists etiquette writers who believe there was something fundamentally problematic. About people sending private matter through the mails without an envelope. Right. That couldn't be sealed Americans are often charged with disclosing too much with being to free and loose with their information. And some of the critiques of the postcard read as if they were talking about in the late nineteenth, century social media. I mean, the terms are exactly the same the right to privacy is has essentially shifted in these one hundred years from a right to privacy of property to privacy of communications where the bad actor isn't so much the government anymore. It's private actors. It's muckraking journalists, and it's who else advertisers. There's this wonderful case one of the early right to privacy suits from nineteen zero to New York state, which is about a woman who discovers much to her. Shame and humiliation that her face appears on advertisements for Franklin mills. Flour? And she sues because this seems like a kind of a violation of her privacy rights, not a tangible property right again, but a right to control her own image. She does not win hirsute. But it does cause an uproar in the press is a nationally followed case, and in fact is responsible for the first New York state laws regulating the right to
Season 3 Trailer: Unbreak the Internet
"Every two or three weeks. I'll search for cats eating pizza, and I see how long it takes before. I'm served some kind of far right content. I'm Derek Thompson. And in this season of crazy genius. We're asking a simple question. How did the internet get so broken? You have an idea they have an idea, your ideas. More extremist your idea wins will that's by design. There's a business model for dividing us. We have a societal problem of automation bias by default. We just assume because something is database or because something is technical is therefore more objective porn is is just entertainment just like Harry Potter. You're not looking at a documentary, dude. What are we in this question? We are the carcass that has left behind after it's been stripped of whatever is valuable, wait. There's a tool that actually gets to help decide whether you're put into jail or prison. How do you hold an AI accountable? If it makes mistakes, you don't this isn't that piss you off. It does pissed me off. We had this idea that Twitter was going to bring democracy to the Middle East. But soon the Cherian figured out how to use it as well. This is now a police state that our cameras every corner of the they say to us if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about the truth is this Derek. If you have nothing to hide then you are nothing. Crazy genius season three on break the internet. What have we just tried turning it off for like a week just to see what would happen?
"derek thompson" Discussed on IRL: Online Life Is Real Life
"We are not inherently a species that wants to read fifteen hundred word articles every day all days of the week. We are species that from time to time gets curious about reading long articles. And it's our job. It's the all it's the journalism Kennedy's job to do our best to essentially write that piece that punches that ticket. Derek Thompson is a staff writer at the Atlantic. Okay. Here's something to consider neuro. Scientists have made it pretty clear the human brain cannot multitask. We may think we're doing many things all at once. But actually, our brain is just switching attention very fast from one thing to another. So trying to understand everything read everything at once not possible. Chapter two an anti tab manifesto. I think that people often as Tennessee and keep all the stuff open because they don't really have any self control. This is Ernie Smith. He writes, a newsletter called tedium, and he wrote a call to arms to those of us who make reading promises we cannot possibly keep. I mean has this happened to you? You're reading a column on how to create new habits for the new year. You're also on a Wikipedia page about net neutrality. And you're also browsing Listrik explaining why scrunchy are back in style. I mean, are they please tell me the jury's still out on that? Anyway. And all these posts, they have invented links leading to other interesting things, so you open a tab, and then another tab, and then another and pretty soon. Yeah. You know it the tabs are breeding like bunnies. And you can't close them 'cause they're to important and interesting. So they sit there taunting you keeping tabs open is the informational prevalent, scheduling fifty. Doctors appointments single week. There's no way you're going to be all of them. And you're going to drive yourself nuts. Trying tab clutter is the overstuffed closet of the reading mind. And Ernie says, we need to let it go. I'm aware that the next important. You jailed might be hiding behind the next tab like the world's smallest unit. Win the world's largest bump by keeping everytown open up the haystack win because I give every piece of information the same amount of value once in a while something will happen like your laptop will crash, and you lose all those tabs at once freak out, of course. But then this feeling of relief said San and maybe that feeling is worth replicating on purpose. Anything? So the thought process had was that if I wasn't necessarily looking at something was saying say a twenty minute period, I would set up a pug, and so that I would automatically close at tap, your, well, if I leave that open, I'm just probably becomes the digital pack rat situation, you know, like at some point you're just like letting the idea of reading the story later beat out simple desire to do searches and find and find information that you use. It's like the word rove rule if you haven't worn it in the last two years, then you need to donate that stupid blouse that you bought on holiday when you thought you were a new person, I think that the key Matt reading from the expectation that you're never going to get through everything kind of freeze you a little bit to simply say, hey, this is something that I could have control over. In life. You can't have it all and you also can't read it all find a link to Ernie's manifesto in the show notes at IRO podcast dot org and sign up for his newsletter..