17 Burst results for "Derek Sievers"

"derek sivers" Discussed on The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish

The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish

05:31 min | 9 months ago

"derek sivers" Discussed on The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish

"Give them their own diary. That subject, so this one is called a Richard Dot. T X T. What would I do if I had a hundred million dollars and they do that? Some kind of like brainstorming thought experiment. And over and over and over again every time I try. I'm always stumped like I actually try really hard I. Ask really hard I really try, but every time the answer's basically nothing like if you were to give me one hundred million dollars. I just get right away because I just won't use it for anything I. Just don't want it all the things that I love the most in life, just learning thinking and creating it doesn't take any money, and in fact, money's probably a distraction that would take me away from those things if I suddenly had to. Attend events or whatever because. Wearing a Tuxedo to attend this event now that I've been given the Nobel prize like I, don't WanNa Nobel prize because it would take away from these things you know what I mean like. Put in whatever example you want there, but no, that was a nice thing to realize in bed yesterday morning. It goes back to the notorious. B I G man. I thought that was Warren Buffett, said. He doesn't strike me as ago with a lot of problems through. How did you become a minimalist? Like? Where does that come from you always that way? No, it's because I moved house a few times. And I think. Like I said earlier with my my woe is me story of the relationship I. Think you learn best by feeling the pain so. You can preach minimalism to people, but then they can still go by that desirable thing I think. It's only when you've felt the pain. From having too much stuff that you finally get it right, so I used to have too much stuff. And I moved like three or four times, and every single time I'd load up the big U-haul van full of my stuff, and then get to the new place and unload the stuff, and and you know the first time it was annoying the second time it was really knowing the third time was like God. Why do I have every time I unpacked the stuff? What is it? Why do I apple this stuff? Yeah then it was an accident of fate that I moved to I moved to Portland Oregon Wall. CD Baby was in full swing like it was just taking off when I moved from the little village of Woodstock New York out to Portland Oregon. And because I was just so damn, busy with work I put all of my stuff into storage temporarily. Meaning to be like for a few weeks until I could find a home, but then. I ended up living at my grandma's house. And you realize you didn't need all this stuff. This stuff state in storage for six years until finally six years later I just. As a present to my employees. I'm like okay, everybody. Help yourself to my stuff. Everybody can have one things you know. Somebody took my guitar. Somebody took my speakers. Somebody took my board. Somebody took this and that and. Just gave away everything I owned the last thing that I had to that nobody wanted to take of course where my diaries have like twenty or thirty big notebooks. That were my diaries ever since I was a teenager and looked at them, and I was like. I really. GonNa Lug these around for the rest of my life. Just dumpster if your house was burning, what would you grab my kid? Now is easy. What. What nonliving thing renshaw! Turtles Living Yeah guess now. To say here, kid. Like phrase that Ron actually. Yeah I have a real answer. I have all of my passports, and yes, it's plural in a little ziplock bag for that specific purpose. That's like. Actually see you. Debt. Spy or no I mean I've just. It's such a different subject. It's you know. I left America ten years on my explorer mission. and. See I've I have a five different drivers licenses from five different countries, and I have like four different resident ID cards and a few different passports from different countries and. Yeah and I keep them all in one folder, so it's like in case of emergency actually put them into one safe place for that purpose like. My one thing that's irreplaceable and I keep a little USB backup of my hard drive in there so that. I've had this happen. Where my computer just completely dies, and like all right, just take this little USB stick I stick it into any new computer I'm good to go in thirty minutes. See. At those things are in one crag like everything else can be bought and replaced. Those things would be. Really hard. How old's your son a- eight? That's a great age man like that is such a fun time, yeah? They've all been fun. Times funny I did that to somebody wants I I was like when my kid was four, I talked to a dad whose kid was eight night. Something about like. Oh, I can't wait till he sat age, and he said you know what man we always say that like the the time you're at. It's always the best time. Of noticed it, the people that are around me, that are the unhappiest parents have almost something universally in common, which is, you can tell when they I have a child that they're going to be an unhappy parent, because they're always hoping for the next phase, who and.

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"derek sivers" Discussed on The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish

The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish

04:22 min | 9 months ago

"derek sivers" Discussed on The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish

"Obsess on it. Just prepare than carry on appreciating the good times how to thrive in an unknowable future number to expect disaster. Every biography of successful person has that line and then things took a turn for the worse. So fully expect that disaster to come to you at any time. Completely assume it's going to happen and make your plans accordingly, not just money, but health family freedom expect all of it to disappear. Besides. You appreciate things more when you know that this may be your last time seeing them. Three own as little as possible. Depend on even less, the less you own, the less you're affected by disaster. For this straight out of anti fragile choose opportunity not loyalty. Have no loyalty to location corporation or your past public statements be an absolute opportunist, doing whatever is best for the future in the current situation unbound by the past have loyalty for only your most important human relationships number five. Choose the plan with the most options. I got that one from Kevin Kelly. The best plan is the one that lets you change your plans. For example renting a house is buying the option to move at any time without losing money in a changing market. And number six avoid planning. For maximum options don't plan at all since you have no idea how the situation or your mood may change in the future. Wait until the last possible moment to make each decision. Funny thing is posted that in. Twenty sixteen on my site. And I just like last month. In March twenty twenty in the middle of quarantine, and all that like went back and read it just kind of smiling and nodding Yup. Prepare for the worst. Expect disaster. Yup, dude, this is like gold I just want to sit here and listen to you like. Keep going on this devoted the other. What are the ones that stand munger? We'd do the Munger one. You and I are both. Hey, actually Shane. Have you heard of Charlie Munger I think he would Begley I mean? I think I remember coming across him in a headline somewhere. So you and I are both Munger fans, so I'll just do this one more. That is totally A. Not a rip off, but Charlie mongers. Charlie's Almanac one of his speeches to one of the schools where he did the reversing it like traditions, misery guaranteed prescriptions for misery. How did you just happened another? Guarantee Yeah thank you that. Was it and I? Just I loved that format. And so. I tried my own version of that, which was how to stop being rich and happy. One prioritize life style design. You've made it, so it's all about you now. Make your dreams come true shape your surroundings to please your every desire. Make your immediate gratification the most important thing. To stop being rich and happy number to. Chase that comparison moment this is from the book stumbling on happiness. You have the old thing you want the new thing. Yes, do it be happy for a week. Ignore the fact that the happiness only comes from the moment of comparison between the old and new once you've had your new thing for a week and it becomes the norm. Just go seek happiness from another new thing. Number Three by not rent. Why rent a house, a castle boat or a car? When you can buy? It's not about the thing. It's about identity. This shows who you are now. Number four internalize your new status. You worked hard to get here. Celebrate, relax admit that you're in a different class of people now with different needs understand, there is no going back. Number five how to stop being rates. UNHAPPY BE CONNOISSEUR. Learn what others say is the finest insist on only.

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"derek sivers" Discussed on Famous Failures

Famous Failures

02:12 min | 1 year ago

"derek sivers" Discussed on Famous Failures

"As simple as air conditioning can be the difference between living a fulfilled self actualized prosperous life. And not so anyway. Yeah don't ask yourself what. You should add incomplete. You could subtract in your life that would take away the obstacles and then being calm relaxed and happy is your default state when nothing's wrong and I encourage everyone to check out barracks very minimalist website. Which think exemplifies the tract? Yes well there was so much fun. Thank you so much for for joining us. If people want to get in touch with you want to check out your work. What's the best way for them to do that? Just go to Sievers DOT ORG S I v E R S dot. Org My favorite thing is when people introduce themselves and say Hello. And so yeah. There's a my email addresses out there on the site. Just click contact and send me an email and introduce yourself bradfo. Put all of that into the show notes. Derek thank you so much again. Everyone thanks for listening to things before you take off. I if you don't want to miss out on future episodes off famous failures. Please subscribe to the podcast on whatever platform. You're listening on and be sure to leave a review on itunes or Google. Play seconds if you'd like to join thousands of others receive a short email from me. Each Thursday with a list of articles books tools quotes and other gems. That help you discover how extraordinary thinking produces extraordinary results. You can text. My first name is spelled Z. A. N. two three four five three four five so once again. That's my first name Ozone Osa. An two three four five three four five. Or if you're in front of your computer you can head over to Ozark dot com and drop your email address. If you act now you'll also get a free. E book called the contrarian handbook eight principles to innovate your thinking as always thank you for listening and seeing.

"derek sivers" Discussed on Famous Failures

Famous Failures

08:33 min | 1 year ago

"derek sivers" Discussed on Famous Failures

"Invest. Now this is what I want in. I've already got my asset allocation decided. I'm going to invest now so called up. The investment advisor said. Okay I'm ready. Let's do this. I've got the allocation pick. Here's the stocks or the mutual funds. The indexes that I wanNa do and he talked me out of it. He's like Derek. I'm telling you this is why you hired me. They got a long way to go. Thing's GonNa you ain't seen nothing yet. Doing things got a fall. Another ninety percents does mark my words Derek. Because his why you hired me don't do anything. Just wait don't be foolish else. I know Stephen I come on. This might not be the absolute lowest. But I'm ready. We're in times of great pessimism. Everybody's predicting doom I'm ready. This is a great time to get in Eric. I'm telling you this is why you hired now and I let him talk me out of it what I did instead. I went to one of those sites like Google Finance or something like that and I put together my hypothetical portfolio that I would have done. This is my I told you so portfolio or he told me so portfolio like I was curious to see like okay. Well this is what I wanted to do today. Let me see what happens and over the next five years like that portfolio went up like a thousand percent. 'cause I was right like if you look at the Dow Jones Industrial Index. Or whatever that day that I had the phone call with my investment advisor turned out to be a bit like the exact bottom of the market so that at truism held true when everybody's screaming we're all GonNa die. It's a good time to buy. I was really mad for you. 'cause I just sat in cash. And then things started skyrocketing up and up and up so I stayed in cash. Could now it's like well. Let's wait until they come back down again. And eventually I fire the investment advisor. In years later I kind of humbly admitted that I had made a huge mistake and I got in so you know it's big. It's not like you know I cut off my leg. It's fine but at story was probably longer than it needed to be. But here's the interesting thing. Is that in this case? I was right and he was wrong and so I can say that was a failure. I should have listened to my heart. I should have trusted my God. I should have listened to the you know the lesson I've learned to share with your listeners. I should have trusted my beliefs. But what if the random meandering of the stock market had gone the opposite way and he was right in I was rod will then would. I still have said that I should have learned those same lessons. No I would have said well boy. It's a good thing I listened to him. I guess it's good not to trust my gut why you know our feelings are often wrong. We should listen to the wisdom of the elders you know so it made me think about something that I think would be really interesting to talk about for your show. Which is the difference between good and bad decisions as being disconnected from good and bad outcomes that I could have made a good decision that day and it could have had a bad outcome right like I could have taken all the wisdom I had learned from all the books knowledge investments. I mean all the books about investing and done the wise thing and it still could have totally tanked could have had about out come but maybe I would have said that was actually still a good decision or I could have made a dumb crazy bad decision that day and I like throwing a dart at something or said like you know what I really like my new iphone so I'm just going to indesit apple even though I know nothing about the internals of apple or whether it's a good investment whether it's overpriced or not I dislike apple. I'm just GONNA put all my money on apple and then that one investment could have skyrocketed and I would assume her see. That was a good decision but no I think you could objectively say that. That was a bad decision. Even if the outcome turned out amazing like we need a different way of judging her qualifying. What's a good decision or bad decision regardless of how the outcome turns out so implying that in practice and actually I have a section in my new book I talk about. The chapters called nothing fails like success goes into goes into basically a series of bad decisions that NASA made in the lead up to the Challenger and Columbia Space Shuttle Disasters. Those bad decisions produced successes and so they were unchanged until well. We ended up with a disaster on our hands in in two very different cases. But the underlying cultural pathology was the same. So one of the things I talk about in that chapter is that the need to conducted post mortems or these investigations after both success and failure to asking ourselves the same questions after both success and failure what went right with this failure. What went wrong with this failure. Similarly what went right with the success and what went wrong with a success and to the extent that you know you had some bad decisions that lead to success. Those bad decisions needs to be corrected going forward and to the extent that some right decisions good decisions lead to failure. Those needs to be retained. One thing I struggle with is in applying that in our personal lives the outcome. It's almost like these blinding lights. When you've got a successful outcome it becomes a really hard to begin. And to resist the tendency to like start popping champagne corks cigars and to actually like dig deep and say Okay. You know what like? How do I figure out which of these decisions were bad? And which of them were good. Did I get lucky? In this instance from a bad decision or did I actually make the right call. Do you have any thoughts on that? I wish that we had an objective and even catchy way to describe what makes a good decision Be some kind of like five rules of thumb like here the five things that make a good decision and people could remember that in those moments of decision. I asked my music teacher about this. He's actually a Kimo Williams. I wrote a story about him at sears. Dot Org Slash Chemo. Kimo he was a huge influence on me. He was my music teacher when I was a teenager. And we've kept in touch. He's the one that introduced me to this concept of separating the decision from the outcome because I asked about his decision to raise his daughter in central downtown Chicago and he said he said well. You know it didn't that definitely didn't get the outcome we wanted and I said Oh. Do you regret the decision. And he said Oh no. It was a good decision. I said wait. What what you didn't like the outcome and yeah. He's the one that interesting. He was daring. Those are two different things. We made a good decision. So He's short definition just off the top of my head. He said something like we made a a wise intelligent decision using the best of our knowledge at the time. It wasn't an off the cuff emotional decision so I think he would. Discredit yet off. The cuff and emotional are signs of a bad decision. Making decision without even trying to gather more information just wanting to quickly have this moment of decision be over so you just take that one then objectively. That is a bad decision even if it ends up surprisingly having a good outcome so that his decision to raise his daughter in downtown. Chicago didn't get them the outcome they wanted. They would've said that. That was a bad come but it was a good decision. I just found that a fascinating idea. I wish that you are. Somebody soon will make some catchy way to help us. Keep it on the tip of her tongue on top of our mind whether we're making a good or a bad decision. We're coming to the end of our time here Derek. But there's one more question that I'd love to ask you. You are one of the most relaxed smart people that I know A as I'm sure that those are listening still can sense that like soothing calm quality and my experience I intelligence and calm. Don't go hand in hand. The more intelligent people are Damore Frantic. Anxious they get and and especially in the recording this on April twenty seconds and very uncertain unnerving times with the pandemic and love to hear your thoughts on how you cultivate calm in your life any practices that you use that might be helpful.

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"derek sivers" Discussed on Famous Failures

Famous Failures

09:39 min | 1 year ago

"derek sivers" Discussed on Famous Failures

"And we could just tell that we were kind of drifting different directions. And so yeah. We went out to a movie one day and after the movie. You're the third street promenade in Santa Monica California and got two lemonades and we just looked at each other and I don't even know who said it first but one of the said you want to break up and the other one cent. Yeah do you. Yeah I think so. You're not you're not upset now are you are you. Are you hurt no? I'm good? Well Yeah let's do this all right. I think we just broke up with our limited than we walked home. And Yeah that night. While she was asleep I was just so excited that onto a new chapter in my life that I packed my bags and opted the car and you know kissed her goodbye while she was sleeping and never saw her again and it was just. It was a great marriage. It was for six and a half years but a lot of people would call that a failed marriage. Sure but it wasn't. It was great. It was a great six and a half year long marriage so now. Let's talk about songwriting. Most songwriters most good songwriters. Definitely all professional songwriters right. Many many songs and most of them don't become a big hit most of those songs. Not many people like very much but are all of those songs failures. Of course not you. Don't say a failed song condemning so instead you just say well. Those weren't a big hit but like so what who expects every song to be a big hit right but the big ideas like I've got more and I'm still writing more and I'm constantly writing songs. Every one hundred songs and you know one of them was a big hit and ninety nine warrant doesn't mean there's ninety nine or failures so then I think of Dandelions may because I'm surrounded by them right now in April so you blow on Dandelions like one hundred little seeds go off into the wind. The ones that don't turn into more dandelions are. They failed seeds of course not because quantity prevents a failure mindset. You can even make lots of businesses. Oh wait actually wait. I'm going to go to the songwriting comparison. The only songwriters I ever met that I think that would have said that. A song was a failure or the occasional oddballs. I would meet that only wrote like one song. And they wrote this song about their mother or their wife or something and they were trying to make this song hit and they went around. La In the win around New York and they went around Nashville trying to make this song a hit and nobody wanted this one song and they were putting so much effort into this one song. They'd get really upset when people didn't like it and so that to me is like more of like the failure mindset. You have to believe that this one thing is everything. And everything's riding on this one thing you have to think that in order to think that something is a failure so even think about this with businesses you can make lots of businesses you can just kind of take. The songwriter approached businesses and start. You know a four businesses a year. I don't know what it would do what whatever somebody's maximum would be it. Twenty five of those businesses didn't become a big hit to that mean that they were all failures. Probably not because you just think of it. In a different way when you're thinking in terms of quantities quantity prevents the failure mindset. I got to ask. Jeff bezos wants. How Amazon seems to make no mistakes like I asked. You just seems like everything you do is a big hit. And he'd just instantly we'll know off the top of his head. He'd named seven failures off the top of his head. He's like well eight. Nine isn't this didn't work in. That didn't work and for each one of those I went. Oh yeah I'd forgotten about those. They were things that I had actually heard of will think half of them. I had heard of and I kind of forgot about them. They just drifted into history in. Nobody mentioned anymore so that was also interesting to notice that it's like maybe you have one company but you try lots of things inside of it may be doesn't have to be the you launch an absolutely new company every few months but if you just think of yourself as in the quantity business you can just keep trying many things. And Hey if you're gonNA put something in the show notes or like linked to a story find the story from the book called art and fear and it's a story about fifty pounds of pots fifty pounds of pop. Yeah to that story and Dammit I just realizing it would be rude of me to not just quickly tell the story but the story goes that it was a pottery class. The teacher decided to do an interesting experiment. He stood in front of the class in. Split the class into half he said okay. Those view on the left half of the room for this whole semester. You're going to work on one piece of pottery for this whole semester and at the end of the semester. I'm going to create you on. How perfect or how. Great that one piece of pottery is those of you on the right half of the room. Just do whatever the hell you want. Just creat create create as much as you can and the end of the year. I'm not even GonNa look what you make. I'm just going to grade you by weighing how much you've made and your grade will be dependent on the weight of how much you've made right go. And at the end of the year they actually brought in like an objective outside judge to judge all the pottery and the room knowing which half of the classic came from and the pieces of pottery that the outside expert found to be the best where of course as you can predict the ones that were in group. B people were just creating quantity because they just made and made and made and made more and more and more and more they became better potters than people just focusing on one. So yes sorry. A bunch of ideas around failure it's dove into of the rabbit hole too far. I think that's that's really important. So quantity is the best predictor of quality. And then I just want to underline something else you said Derek. About how with respect to your question for Jeff Bezos. We tend to remember the highs and not the lows. Yeah you know. We don't remember. The people forgot about the Amazon fire phone which cost the company so it was a colossal failure. You don't remember that I. It also reminded me of Tom. Hanks is one of my favorite actors. I was looking up for some reason a couple of weeks ago. Some of the movies that he was in and he's been in some awful awful movies. But like when you think of Tom Hanks you think of Philadelphia and Apollo Thirteen. You don't think of the with one red shoe. She's like what are the. What are the Alpha movies he made? But but I think so so. That's important to keep in mind to its quantity least equality but also the quote unquote failures or the lows tend not to get remembered. People tend to remember the hits so on that note when I think about my biggest regrets in life actually keep a journal I actually I have this thing called my topic journals. Our thoughts on journals are used to write a daily diary but I found that there were certain subjects that kept coming back to so I started creating new text files per topic so I have a journal called regrets and every time I do something I regret I write about it in that journal and so it's like a catalogue of my regrets and for each one like what happened. What do I wish would happen? What do I regret doing what will not do next time? One of my biggest regrets of all time is a little weird to talk about. But I sold CD baby in August of two thousand eight. It was an all cash deal. It wasn't a hiker stock or anything like that so I just suddenly had a bunch of cash and I had been reading investing books for the last six months thinking. Okay well I have to learn about investing now. Not like speculative investing not like Silicon Valley Angel kind of investing but more just like old tried true wisdom about passive investing in two broad indexes of the entire world economy. And and one of the truisms I learned in that. I think believe it was a Warren Buffett quote. That said something like when everybody's screaming we're all GONNA die. It's a good time to buy. And and this idea was like he said you should be the most optimistic when everybody's scared and you should be the most scared when everyone's optimistic right so. I mentioned that I saw the company in August. Two thousand eight because it was weirdly. Lucky timing that just weeks later became like began this financial collapse it was just like collapse collapse collapses just dominoes falling everywhere and so. I did nothing. I sat an all cash but I also hired an investment adviser. Just somebody to kind of bounce ideas off of. Because I was new to having money. It was totally new to investing. I'd never invested anything in my life. I never had an investment account so I opened an account at vanguard and I had this guy that we would just have like a monthly call to bounce ideas off of so in February or twenty nineteen. Sorry no that was last year. Thirty two thousand nine. Sorry figuring thousand nine. That was on the cover of Time magazine was talking about like the next Great Depression and the cover of Newsweek was talking about the big dust bowl and the economist. Who's just like you know? Tighten your buckle were in for a long period of doom and Like yeah you know what I think. This is the thing that the wisdom told me about like when everybody's screaming we're all GonNa die. This is this is peak pessimism. I feel like this is now the cover of every major story. I'm ready to.

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"derek sivers" Discussed on Famous Failures

Famous Failures

11:23 min | 1 year ago

"derek sivers" Discussed on Famous Failures

"Then return to that later because I think it's going to foreshadow another question that that's coming up there and I think so part of the reason why I think people because I noticed this to you particularly my students. I teach law students and they were one of the biggest problems is over quoting. They're constantly quoting other sources. And I think partially it's because of what you mentioned which is avoiding the potential plagiarism issues. Or even the appearance of it and the other part I think is is protecting themselves because if they say like this important person said this then is a way of deflecting potential criticism because then if attacked then they can retreat and say. Well I'm relying on this other more important smarter person's views and not my own. I'M GONNA ask you out criticism critique later on so I just wanted to flag that you could ask ask me now sure. Why don't we do that? Go ahead what's on your mind. Obstacles that people face in putting themselves out there is worrying about what other people are going to say about them right. You know if I start a blog if I start a business and it fails. What if others point and laugh? What if I make a full out of myself? What is my family my friends. What are they going to think so? I'd love for you to take us back to a moment in your life when you faced some serious criticism and walk through that moment and share with us. What happened and how you approached handling particular. I should start by saying that everybody should have an internet name. That is not their real name. Everybody should have a stage name. Append name I think it's really handy. The BANO CALLS HIMSELF. Bano the singer from you to his real name. Is Paul Houston but if people are attacking Bano? He knows that they're attacking it character that he created that. It's not him like the real. Paul Hewson sits at home having tea with his family and then he puts on the shades and the outfit and goes up on stage to Bano and if somebody criticizes that he knows it's not him. Everything changed for me in in one. Minute and cure was the minute I had written a blog post about the ruby on rails programming system. It's funny you wouldn't expect it but programmers get almost like religion when they get into a certain language like if programming and if they used the ruby language they're convinced that Ruby is the best language if somebody uses Haskell. They're like no no hassles the best. How dare you say it's not so? I had written all of my software for my company. Cd baby in the PHP programming language. At first. Because it's all I knew then. I tried to rewrite everything in Ruby on rails for two years and after two years I gave up and felt like no. I'm just GONNA leave it in. Php It was fine. So I posted a little blog post that I thought nobody would see saying seven reasons why I switched back to php after two years on rails and it was before I had a public blog it was even on like on a little technical blog on O'Reilly dot com raised a blog but like I had like zero viewers but to programmers over two months had asked me do blinded you switch back. Php and I got sick of answering the question by email. So I just wrote a little blog post basically to share with UK tional nerd. Who wanted to know so I went to bed? Coincidentally it was my birthday and when I woke up in the morning all of the Tech News sites had my article it like number one. It was voted up like reddit or slash daughter. All these like programmers sites and it was just filled with hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people attacking it and it just attacking me and insulting me just saying you know this is going to mouth. Breathing Idiot is the biggest problem with the world today. You know you know. The Guy Obviously can't code is way out of a paper bag. If he if he could he would know the model. The End. Like fifteen minutes. I was really upset. I was like what the Hell is. This is trying to share my thoughts. Like wow really mean God. People being really mean and it was. Just you know the the comments. There are hundreds of comments like ninety five percent negative every now and then there were might be one little voice in. They're saying something positive and then everybody else would attack that voice and it was after maybe ten minutes of pain looking at this that like something clicked in my brain like wait a minute. These people don't know me. They know my code. They're telling me I'M A bad programmer. But none of my code is public. So they're not even really talking about me there talking about themselves or their beliefs or they're just spewing stuff to justify their decision and learning ruby on rails and how dare somebody criticized the last two years of my effort learning rails and tell me that it wasn't completely worth it and I just realized that they weren't talking about me. Yes it was my name or it was an article I wrote out there. But they were attacking like a mannequin of me like a cardboard cutout in the shape of me. That's what they were throwing tomatoes at and just in that one split second. It's just like something detached in my head and I realized that my public self is not the real me the real me is the Derek that a few dear friends and family no but Derek sievers. That's like that's a public character. And I put stuff out into the world. I write articles and books and videos. Whatever and I put it out there but it's all just a public creation and if you're attacking Derek sievers. That's why I said I wish I would. You know. In hindsight I wish I would have had a stage name. It's not too late for you. Haven't started to put a ton of stuff out in the world. Go Get yourself a stage name and use that publicly so that if people attack it you know it's not the real you and you can just shrug it off his feedback in put an article out into the world and everybody attacks it. Okay I need to think through my thoughts on that subject because it's clearly being misunderstood but I never for one second that they're attacking me even if they think they are right. I know it's just something I've shared publicly but then the side effect of this is what you'll realize if you go through the same process you'll realize a minute later that this means that you can't take any praise personally either it when people say really nice things about me in public. It also has no effect on me. I'm just disconnected from all of it so any praise any criticism. It's just I just take just kind of feedback on something I've created. None of it is about me. And you can't selectively as you're saying so you can't just you can't take the compliments and the praise and rejected criticism exactly. Yeah you have to report the same. Yeah it reminded me of a verbal tweak that I implemented in my life when I first started out in academia and I would present conferences. I would get up and say I argue. Xyz And then when people would attack my arguments. I would get defensive. Because when I say I argue it almost sounds like my arguments and my beliefs are tied up with my identity and so when those arguments and beliefs are being attacked. It's almost like my identity is being attacked and I think this is by the way why. So many disagreements in the real world turned into these existential death matches you know. We have people who are going around telling themselves that they are Paleo or Vegan or their cross-fitters. I think those labels tend to get tied up with with ego and identity. And so when you've got these disagreements then it's almost like you're trying to convince the other person to change their identity which is a really hard Hartselle so I switched from saying I argued to this paper hypothesize that simple verbal tweak was was really useful in separating me from the products of me the ideas of me and I think your approach is even better because it takes a step further. There's a difference between the private me and the Mannequin of me. The public me and as long as you're doing that for both criticism and praise I didn't. It's a great way of of handling critique that comes your way and a different name would help. This is different name would help. My son is only eight years old and I The first time I think it was like a year ago when he wanted to create an account on minecraft or something like that. I was like okay. Well it's time to make up your Internet name. Goes Internet name when I said. Oh Yeah you can't use your real name on the Internet. You always have to use a different name on the Internet and it just become like a truism of the household right like. I think it's really healthy right. Okay next question and we're going to switch to failures now and what is one or you can pick more than one one or more. Maybe let's say one two three of the most valuable failures you've had in your life. And what makes them valuable and within the context so that question? I'd also love to hear about your personal definition of a failure because I've been doing the show for now over two years and people have different views in definitions of of failure. And I'd love to hear yours. I kind of don't believe in failure because it seems to apply the it's it's ended. Its over failures. Seems to imply that. Because if it's if you think of it is still ongoing. It's not failed so even even if you WANNA pick the most obvious example of a failed business will if you learn something from that one in. You're going to try something else than you could even say that. That wasn't a failed is. Let's actually so my first marriage even saying those words. I need to qualify. That she was my girlfriend and she was from Sweden and she kept coming to visit me and so the third time she came to visit me immigration at the airport told her. I'm on the verge of rejecting new but I'm GonNa let you in this one last time but I'm putting a note on your account here. You're not allowed into America anymore unless you have a work visa or a marriage visa or something. You've just been visiting too much. Something's up this is your last time in America unless you enter with a valid visa next time so I actually tried to get my company to hire her but it was gonna be like a year and a half of paperwork so recycle grumble grumble grumble. We went down to city hall and just like signed a piece of paper or like their or married. Leave US alone so yes. He was my girlfriend but no. We didn't make this decision to spend their whole lives together so we stayed together for six and a half years and it was awesome. We were just really really happy. Almost weirdly happy like what didn't even fight in six and a half years together. We had one disagreement about whose turn it was to clean the bathroom that day but neither of us in six and a half years fought about anything else. We just got along so well. We were so happy together. It was just great but our lives were going these slightly different directions. She wanted to stay in L. A. And Joe Herself into film school. I wanted to be up in Portland working.

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"derek sivers" Discussed on Famous Failures

Famous Failures

09:42 min | 1 year ago

"derek sivers" Discussed on Famous Failures

"Somewhere. I said I don't know you. I'm sorry and he's No. I know you're the dude that stacked up your your groceries at the grocery store last week. What YEAR. How do you remember that he goes? I don't know I just thought that was really cool. I never saw somebody do that with their groceries before I was like. Oh I wasn't trying to be cool. I didn't know anybody was watching. I think I set the bar very very low for what to. That's why I told that story. I just enjoy process of thinking if there's another way to think about this so the obvious things to start questioning the obvious assumptions to start questioning our when. Something's not working like if if you're doing something that you need to do but it's exhausting you or you're not getting the results you want or it's not fun anymore. Then you should be questioning that assumption with the assumptions that lead you to think that you need to be doing that. So for example in that case it would be like looking for a mentor. I know there are some people that are always looking for a mentor. And it's just not working so that's something that you should be questioning. Do you need him into a writing them into her. Then there's the next obvious which is what be better. Meaning that if you feel. Something has a lot of unnecessary rituals or fuss to it. Or if something's overcomplicated or just could be improved in any way. Then he should question the assumptions around that so a recent example of that is I suddenly felt that everybody around me was quoting others too often. I felt like people that I know in like. We're trying to make a point. But they were spewing bibliographies out of their mouth. Every time they speak. You know this flaws for said this. That in this book said that to know I was reading something. The other day in the Washington Post columnist said this and I felt like come on a lot of verbal garbage. Just get to the point. Another category would be something just feels wrong like it just seems to offend your sensibilities. Somehow right like to me. It feels wrong that so many people are dependent on the cloud. Right now They put all their stuff in the cloud and they say the clouds grain to take care of my stuff as if Google cares about you. I worry when I get when I check my email. Inbox and like ninety percent of all emails. I get at gmail.com at gmail.com DOT COM. I think something feels wrong about that. I don't like this. I mean that should be questioned but last tournament. My favorite is just curiosity. It's this you look at almost anything in life short of stacking your groceries on the bill. Say like how could this be different? I'm sitting here in my house right now. I'm looking over my shoulder at this room that most people would call the living room of the House but when I was questioning if I even wanted to really buy a house or not when we moved to England. I knew that this House I had my eye on had this great big room in the middle and I just thought like I don't know. Let Me Living Room would i? I don't watch TV. I don't sit on couches. Don't hang out. I'm just always making things and my kids the same way like when we play. We're constantly making things and I went. Oh Oh my God. That's not the living room. That's the making or there will be no couches in that room. It will be all like making tables and as soon as I had that. Okay yes now. I want that house and this is going to be making house with the making room and this is just it's like there was nothing wrong with living room. It was just kinda curious like is there a different way to treat your house instead of thinking of it as a place to relax INN veg out and do nothing. Can your whole house be turned into a place that exists to create anyway so those are four categories for you but you asked how to cultivate the practice? Is that right? A think questioning assumptions can be done in conversation with friends. But I find it most useful if you're if you're writing in a private journal because even among friends you might find yourself accidentally holding onto a point of view just because we all have kind of this social instinct to defend our point of view of somebody says. Oh Yeah why? Do you think that you almost visceral physical reaction? You will easily defense if you put shield you suddenly. You're defending a point of view that you don't actually really care about that much but it's just a human instinct. So instead writing privately in a journal I've found to be the most useful because then you can. You can even write a simple sentence like well. Of course a house has a living room and as soon as you see yourself write a sentence you can say does it. Does it need to? Why is that? Do I want to spend my life sitting on a couch watching things? No what do I wanna spend my life doing. Great question to ask is what's the real point like trying to boil things down to their essence. Whatever you answer to that ask yourself. What's the real point at that and see how far down you can go to the essence of why we do this thing? Anyway like I'll I'll go back to the examples. I said two minutes ago people that are always looking for a mentor will. Why do you think you need a mentor? And it might be because you want someone to tell you what to do so you can try to make smart choices. Not Dumb choices. Think well does that. Need to be a person that's going to spend many many hours with you over the course of years getting to know you deeply or can that wisdom come from a book to say. Well where does wisdom come from? Let's look at my history. Where have I gotten the best ideas that I've ever had? Was it from somebody that got to know me really well for a long time and then gave me some bit of Holy Wisdom now. It hasn't so why do I think I need that? You know so. These are just the kind of a good question that assumption. What's the other example? I gave according others right. How he said I felt like too many people around me. Were spewing BIBLIOGRAPHIES. Well what's the real point of that? The real point I think is they WANNA share interesting and useful ideas that they heard but the assumption is that they need to give credit for everything they're sharing. That is not their own. I think well why. Why do we think we need to do that? We don't want to be seen as plagiarizing or stealing from others. But it's just not writing academic journals right. Do we get that habit from schools where we have to list all of our sources or PSA questioning that and asking like well how would it look if we did none of like if I heard an idea and I like it? Can I just say that I do without crediting the source? That go is that evil. Is that okay considerate? And then lastly yeah. I talked about Depending on the cloud and was surreal point of that people just wanNA share their photos. Were contacts are documents and just have them available on a server? That's outside of their device. Well do you need to use Google facebook at her can you donate so it's Cetera? And then they just curious category my favorite example of that is when I was in new. Zealander Yeah I was in the Auckland. Airport in New Zealand and I saw the globe of our earth rotated around so that New Zealand was on top instead of the bottom and all of these other countries from Canada and Russia and Europe and everybody else was on the bottom. I thought yeah. It's a circle. Why do we know this has to be up and this has to be down and I'm like yeah it's a circle? You can look at a circle from any perspective is like this map is also correct and so. I actually did my first end. Still my favorite Ted talk on this subject if you Ted dot com and search for Derek. Sievers the talk is called a weird or just different and this is still like my single favorite fascination in the world has to just find things like that that we can think of in an absolutely opposite way from what we're used to thinking of it and it's still correct like the opposite is also true the globe of the Earth. It's also true when you look at it from over here and things like that and so in my little tiny Ted talk. I think it's like three minutes long. I give my favorite examples of that and in going back to what you're doing your private journal. It almost sounded to me like you're like applying the scientific method to your ideas like you write down a hypothesis right a living room for living. And then you question that I practice you. Try to falsify it and you write something down to question it and then you question what you wrote. Down Right. It's just a continuous cycle of questioning and questioning and questioning until you get to the essence of something right. The only difference I'd say with the scientific method is I'm not trying to prove that this is right. I'm not trying to find a right answer. I'm actually deliberately just looking for a different approach. Just for fun sometimes. Yeah like my examples of If something's just not effective if I'm doing something that's not working. I feel something. Could be better than yeah. I'm trying to look for something that seems better than the current way but yeah often it's just like just looking for another different approach just for the sake of being different. It's just fun. L. Of that and there are two two little things I wanted to mention. One is and I'll put this in the show notes but Derek is a great post on seeking mentors or finding mentors which which is definitely worth reading mentioned that in the in the show notes and then quotes or quoting other people. I want to put a thumb tack on that and.

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"derek sivers" Discussed on Famous Failures

Famous Failures

04:37 min | 1 year ago

"derek sivers" Discussed on Famous Failures

"Obstacles and then being calm relaxed and happy as your default state when nothing's wrong hello and welcome to another episode of famous failures where I interview the world's most interesting people about their failures and what they learn from them. I'm your host on role. Today's guests on the show is Derek. Severs Derek is one of my favorite thinkers and authors. He has lived many many lives. He has been a musician producer. A circus performer and entrepreneur. Speaker and book publisher his book. Anything you want forty lessons for a new kind of entrepreneur is one of my favorite res of all time in the book he shares everything you'll learn from starting growing and selling the company. Cd Baby you can. Hello to Derrick at sievers dot org that's S. I. V. as in Victor E R s dot. Org Slash contact in the episode. Derek I talk about how Derek cultivated a practice of questioning assumptions. Why he has what he calls a making room not a living room. What a controversial blog posts taught derek about handling criticism. Why you should distance your private persona from your public persona. What failed marriage. Todd Derek about the meaning of failure. Why you should separate your decisions from outcome of those decisions and finally how Derek cultivates calm in his life before I play you the interview. A quick announcement. I my book. Think like a rocket scientist simple strategies. You can use to make giant leaps in work and life is now out. It's already a number one bestseller on Amazon. And we have a special offer for the listeners of this episode with Derek Servers. If you order the book and Forward Your receipts to rocket at Osan Burrell dot com. That's rocket at Ozeki A. N. V. as a mixture A. R. O. L. DOT COM and mention Derek. You will get to special bonuses. The first is a video training with a behind the scenes look at my productivity system and the second is a pack of twelve three minute cricket. Video is based on the book. Think like a rocket scientist. These are actionable strategies that you can implement right away again to get the bonuses order the book from Your Favorite Bookseller and forward your receipts to rocket at Maral Dot com and mentioned Derek. Without further ADO please enjoy my conversation with Derrick favors and thank you as always for listening derrick. Welcome to the show thank you. I think I heard about you. It must have been five or six years ago. I think it was from Godin but I picked up a copy of your book which I'm holding in my hands right now. Anything you want forty lessons for a new kind of entrepreneur this lesson one hundred pages long so it's the kind of book that you can read in an hour or two and it's still to this day the only book where I forced myself to stop and I limited myself to one one lesson or one chapter a day so I read the book over the course of forty days because it was this like delicious feasts and I wanted to enjoy every bite and not just like bend John and finish it right away. So it's such a pleasure to be speaking with you thanks. That's a great compliment. I appreciate it so you are a master at questioning assumptions. Or as you put it in a block post singing the counter melody to other people's melodies. I love to chat with you about how you cultivate. The practice of questioning assumptions and related. Louis how do you determine what to question and the assumption there being that going through life questioning everything we do from what we eat for breakfast too the the route that you take to work would be really inefficient to habits routines conserve decision making power? So how do you determine what the question and then once you determine what the question? How do you actually practice questioning assumptions? It's a great question and I'm going to start with the most trivial thing that you just reminded me of that. I haven't thought of in twenty years when you talked about like habits routines when I was eighteen at the supermarket and I put my groceries on that black belt that you know they roll up to the checkout counter and I just started stacking them up in like a funny pyramid kind of way. Just y not play with it and I didn't think anything of it until two months later somebody stop me on the street he said. Hey wait I know you from.

"derek sivers" Discussed on Future Thinkers Podcast

Future Thinkers Podcast

01:40 min | 1 year ago

"derek sivers" Discussed on Future Thinkers Podcast

"Still reply to every email and enjoy it. I like hearing from strangers around the world. It's fun cool. Awesome everyone just a reminder that the registration for our membership area closes on the twenty third of this month. If you WANNA check it out get access to the courses and the group calls any other events workshops that we're doing we've got a lot of them coming up you can check that out by going to members dot future thinkers thanks for listening to our interview with Derek. Sievers can get all the links and show notes at future dot org slash one seventeen and stay tuned until the next episode. The brand new future thinkers members portal is now live develop your sovereignty and self knowledge with our index courses. Get access to our weekly since making calls joined the QNA's with past podcast guests and much more become a feature thinkers member. Today at future thinkers that org slash members to stay up to date with new episodes. Subscribe to future on your favorite platform and leave us a review or like it really helps out the show and Oh forget to share this episode on Social Media Enter the future thinkers giveaway and win our brand new community membership including in depth courses private calls and more as well as the supply of quality a- a complete cognitive upgrade for your brain to enter the contest simply go to future thinkers dot org slash giveaway and sign up for a mailing list to instantly get our fifty page guide on how to adapt to the future. There are many ways to your chances of winning. Enter the competition. Today's episode is brought to you by Kuala a nutritional supplement that helps support mental performance. And Move to get ten percent off. Use The code future at checkout and to learn more about near hacking visit future thinkers dot org slash neuro..

"derek sivers" Discussed on Future Thinkers Podcast

Future Thinkers Podcast

04:31 min | 1 year ago

"derek sivers" Discussed on Future Thinkers Podcast

"The the. The goal focused versus process. Focused is if your goal focused and it's really important to you that it's like I did the marathon. I was number thirty seven and I came into nineteen th place of that marathon really important. The goal focus people want to show that they achieved that goal and like the guy that beat the world record Ran The marathon in under two hours. Just last week or something but they say that it doesn't officially count. Because he did it by himself like he did it. He had tre pacers running with him but because it wasn't an official marathon that had other contestants it doesn't count for some reason. What yeah he did it anyway. But it's like because it wasn't a competitive official marathon and he knew that he said well. I'm I'm doing it anyway just to show that an ideal situations a marathon can be running under two hours. We've proved it now. And so I hope others will now like once once Roger bannister broke the four minute mile like ten other people did it the following year even though it had never been done up until then so he said. I'm doing it for that reason. You can tell me it wasn't official. It doesn't matter to me metaphors. Yeah it's just the kind of thread of this conversation. It's interesting that Life and living things. Just they're such a variety in there. There's so many different ways that living being skin thrive you know like some some creatures are more adapted to a certain niche and there's maybe less variety at least within the species but then there's another species living somewhere else does doing something totally different. You know like different kinds of finches or whatever But humans are fascinating in the sense that we are so versatile they're just so many different you know modes of being that can make people happy and fulfilled and even in your book about how to live your presenting so many different kind of ways the or pathways that people can take and even just that realization. I think is really interesting for people to ponder. Especially if they're feeling stuck you know like they're just a million different paths in the one that you're on right now. May Not be optimal for you where you might have been there done that already. I think that's what's really helpful about four hour. Workweek book inspired a lot of people. Because Tim was writing about Here's a different way. You could approach life whether it's the Many many retirements searches like even tiny stories about the family that sold their house and traveled the world on a sailboat. For an entire year in the total cost to live on a boat for a whole year in travel the sale the world was eighteen. Thousand Dollars just even even just hearing that something like that is a possibility makes you go. Wow like is that what I want? I could do that and even just knowing that you could makes you question. Do I want to or not I kind of want to do. I want to badly enough to give up this house. Maybe not maybe therefore I actually value comfort more than sailing it. Just yeah these things. Make you question your values. It's always wonderful to be presented with other options. That's what explorers to for US right. So let's see two hundred years ago. We there were parts that replaces on the map. That we just really didn't know what was there yet and so- explorers without physical explorers with the hat and the little thing they'd go off into darkest Peru and explore places that hadn't been explored yet and then they'd come back and draw them APPS and report to us about what's there but now that we know what's everywhere physically in the world. I think we still need explorers. They're like life explorers like go explore. What can be done with a life and show it to us. Show US places on the the map of possibilities that we haven't we didn't know.

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"derek sivers" Discussed on Future Thinkers Podcast

Future Thinkers Podcast

04:12 min | 1 year ago

"derek sivers" Discussed on Future Thinkers Podcast

"You know this conversation of of state versus process has been coming up a ton lately in the last few weeks for us and I'm recognizing as you're talking that this is actually something you're doing to you seem to be deeply committed to processes but the process of of changing processes and and using processes to uncover what's working and what's not and you. You seem extremely to use. Your words disloyal to states. You're not trying to get something be something you know. Have a check mark on a to do list like you're not looking at states at all. I think You know we talk about commonly known spectrums like introvert versus extrovert. They're all these other ones too like. I remember reading once that there's a a spectrum of how much we tend to find similarities versus find differences. Like that's something that there's a spectrum. They have some kind of name for it in psychology that they can measure that they can ask you some questions and sale you're a similarity finder or you're a difference finder and I read that one of these Spectrums is being process focused versus goal focused and the Cliche of the person that is process focused is doing something almost to completion and then going. That's enough I was doing it for the doing not for the end result And so yeah. I remember years ago when I took one of those tests. That was that was totally me. I will very often do something almost to completion. Then I'll feel like I got I wanted. I was doing it for the doing. I didn't really care whether I got to the finish line or not That would that would be kind of a fundable. Skit about like the The process focused person running a marathon. And then right before you can finish line Just walking off your feet me for the finish line on like I'm done at school. I don't need to cross it. I was just doing it for the running Especially I verily goodness. That's got to be the twenty. Sixth and seventh lesson in your book never completed anything never conclude and always conclude. Well there is one of about reinvention and it is kind of like that. It's saying that we always it's beginner's mind it's when you with your beginner's mind when you're new to something that's when you make the best progress that's when you get all the new insights and all that kind of stuff so living in the name of reinvention you're all you stay beginner at everything. Since you enough of an expert come to reinvent pick something completely different do it again but Yeah I think I was just going to make another joke marathon. Oh I know what it was when I was living in Singapore. I was living in this building that was right above. It was like right above the Central Park. Kind of thing in Singapore's Marina Bay and that's where they would do all of the marathons in the races and the triathlons would always begin like right below my window so very often at six. Am on a Sunday. That'd be woken up with a before and like all. These people like organizers with clipboards and everybody with the numbers on and I just think you know you could've run the same ten miles yesterday just by yourself like in the woods at why would you choose all of this noise and screaming and commotion and the numbers in The clipboards and the walkie talkies. Why would you? Why not just do the run yesterday and I said this to somebody who looked at me and you know some people like being around other people all right. Introvert thing like everything's better alone and some people like structure. Yeah cels.

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"derek sivers" Discussed on Future Thinkers Podcast

Future Thinkers Podcast

13:01 min | 1 year ago

"derek sivers" Discussed on Future Thinkers Podcast

"That's what I'm reading right. Now that's great. How many of them have you tried? Go had a good. I'll think about that too that it feels like most of them at some point. You know I told you that. I'd like whimsically got married because unlike commitment. That's what life is all about. You just pick you commit. It's the joy of missing out. Get Pride in all the choices. You're not making ends like did that. For a few years until I didn't and Yeah I've gone all the way off the independent side of gone all the way to the Learning growing like learning and growing that is the most important thing in life. And if that's the most important thing in life then it logically follows that you would live as such and so I'm also it's written of course a very succinct format With what I call directives that we can talk all around subject. We can talk for many paragraphs around or you can just say two sentences that say do this and I actually think that The entire tree is contained in the seed. And sometimes I think the directive just telling somebody without precursors or apology saying do this is like the seed carries all the other philosophies with the action is what really matters rather than all the talking around it so it's written in a laughably direct. Do this live like this Mary. This kind of person live in this place kind of format because it's just more succinct in amusing incidents babbling on about things that's interesting especially given the context that a lot of them were completely contradictory. It might produce this. Meta insight and people that yet. They're all these different options. But if you're not doing it that doesn't really matter right. Yeah I like that. It's absolute in this relative kind of format like it's absolute in every single chapter. But then the next thing contradicts it so I would imagine that relates to what you were saying relative Meta insight that you would get very cool and it's at at first. I thought that I was going to need a really damn good conclusion like to wrap it all up but then I thought that That's the difference between art and Instruction. It's like when when you can think of something as art. Then everybody's just free to make their own conclusion if you're thinking of yourself as a professor then you're trying to tell people what to think so. I decided that this is really more of an art project that they I'm no professor so there is no conclusion never conclude that the final concluding never concludes that. It's interesting actually because loops back to that idea of leaving space and if you leave space than something else can emerge so if you if you have a very specific conclusion than they doesn't leave space but if you leave it open than all kinds of insights can emerge for people and it might be totally different for different people. Yeah it's it's fun. The idea of somebody saying like just the thought of somebody saying what did he mean by that? That's more interesting than me telling them exactly what I meant by that. Are you at all thinking about what kind of legacy your work is going to leave in the world? I think that like I don't have any spiritual beliefs really but I think that Our personality lives on after we die in the things that we create like. If there's any argument in favour like something that we could concretely. Objectively call an afterlife. It would be like the way that you share your personality all your life. So it's like right now I can still go read Things written by people that are and totally get their personality. Their way of thinking their Their framework and To to me there might as well still be alive It's weird when people get all upset. That Ray Charles died or something really well. How many of his albums if you bought in the last twenty years no. I mean his new music none so why. He didn't demand you didn't know died but it doesn't matter because the things he created are very alive so I don't Think about I don't like worry about my legacy like that but thinking that thought that I just described is the kind of thing that kick my ass it useless right towards sharing more of my thoughts and ideas and I use my site for that to me. My sight is the legacy like anytime. I'm doing anything on my site. I just imagine like this will be around for one hundred years after I die. Another reason why you know. It's not on wordpress less code the better because like future somebody is going to have to maintain it so. I just use barebones. Html because who knows what holographic devices this will be seen on in the future you know they might not have Java script anyway Yeah that's interesting. I think I think long term to a fault like what I said earlier about the tattoos even at the age of fourteen. I was like I might not want tattoos when I'm eighty people just looking at me weird like dude. Are you thinking about being eighty? It's like well it's coming so I don't know I just often think of everything very long term like that to a fault. It's it's strange to me that you you say you're non-spiritual less and yet you have so many spiritual practices that you engage with their practice but I mean I haven't looked up what the word spiritual means but it seems to. It seems to be about like a spirit like a spirit being like synonym for ghost right like belief in some like entities spirit thing and. I don't I don't have that so I don't know what you would call. I think it really comes out of that. What we've already discussed this. You've given yourself time to contemplate things that others have contemplated when they've had time and have come up with some great ideas and and Really figured out. How exactly you want to live your life I mean. That's what in my mind would spirituality or what religion is all about is how how to live Everyone just a reminder that the registration for our membership area closes on the twenty third of this month If you WANNA check it out get access to the courses and group calls in any other events and workshops that we're doing we've got a lot of them coming up you can check that out by going to members. Future thinkers at work. I wanted to ask you about how you approach self knowledge. How do you investigate kind of yourself in an your beliefs And you mentioned Identity before do you have any specific practices Do Change with time or do you. Kind of have your go-to practices. Can you talk about that a bit for me? Just lots and lots and lots of writing in my journal. I just do everything and just text file so just type really fast and free and some people enjoy longhand but to me I every day. Almost every day opened up a text file. And I I just dump out whatever's on my mind right now but then. I like to skeptically challenge. Everything I just said is a fact and so if I said such and such as a bad idea then I'll kind of go back and add a question mark to it is a bad idea. Why is it about idea what if it's not a bad idea? What would it look like I? Just I like to do the the skeptic thing of Doubting everything I I've I think I hold true. Try Doubting it see how that looks. What if it were false? What is the opposite of? What are the possibilities here? And then there's always the pushing past the first few possibilities we often think in terms of Two choices we often think in terms of choices but once we get to choices. We say okay. Well now I have to decide between these two choices. Okay never never stop it two choices. You could always add more. There's always the choices. Do nothing go crazy. You know. There's always more choices than you could start to look at a spectrum of choices so self knowledge Yeah I just do this kind of stuff every day. Just put aside time. I guess it helps it like I don't. I don't do a lot of stuff. That normal people do. I don't watch videos of any sort. I don't I just generally don't watch things almost any moment. I'm awake I'm I'm writing. Were talking reading. And that's it. I don't watch things I don't hang out. I don't like sit on couches and that kind of stuff so I guess the if it seems like I'm weird in the stuff that I do. It's time that maybe normal people would spend Watching things I tend to spend writing. I'm I'm curious how your ideas about minimalism. And and your your philosophies for living have changed once you had your your child See the the Lego there on the table so yeah when he was up until he was about two years old. I kind of held my minimalist philosophies applied to parenting he had no toys We would go outside and play with sticks rocks or whatever and that's it and then when he was like yeah. He was two years old. When I we were living in New Zealand and I went to a cafe In masterton that had a huge box of toys and he saw this box toys and he just sat there and played with everything for three hours. I didn't interrupt him. I just sat there for three hours just kind of ordering a second Third Cup of tea and just watching him play for three hours like Oh my God. He's in heaven and it's like okay. I've I've made a mistake. He needs toys. Like this is clear so That night I went onto Ebay and found somebody in Wellington whereas living that was giving away like three or four huge boxes filled with toys for like ten dollars. Okay I took it and just presented him with four giant bins of toys and for the next five years until we moved here. He just played with that giant box of toys. Like every single day. Never got tired of it so It was a good lesson that The beginning when you asked me about hell yeah or no. That's a certain tool for a certain situation. Minimalism is certain tool for a certain kind of desire for a certain kind of situation. It's not the answer to everything so we should question all of these `ISMs including their tools. We don't need to think that just because something is true for us now that it is true for everything. It's the answer it's like. No it's just. It's just a tool for now so I don't apply most of most of what works for me in my life. I don't apply his life. Don't try to push it on him. Because I know that it's not.

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"derek sivers" Discussed on Future Thinkers Podcast

Future Thinkers Podcast

04:49 min | 1 year ago

"derek sivers" Discussed on Future Thinkers Podcast

"Smarten useful. This was a big one. I realized that whenever my life feels unsatisfying. It's because I'm not satisfying all three of those. The intersection of what makes me happy What's smart meeting long-term good for me and what's useful to others so it's okay to do one or two of those but I think if you're not doing all three something ultimately feels unsatisfied. Do these these combinations like you could do something that makes you happy. And is smart. If it's not useful to others it just kind of feels you know. Circular Self contained. You can do something that's useful for others and might be smart but if you're not happy doing it then it's like we can try to talk ourselves out of happiness but it's kind of like the oil in the machine you know like the machine starts to break down if it doesn't have that the oil of happiness Yeah so that's a common thread I noticed. Are you familiar with the Japanese concept of it can guy no? I've heard the word but I never found out what it means. It's pretty much exactly that so it's event diagram that is they overlap off What you love what you're good at what you can get paid for and what the world needs all right. Yeah and so. I thought I came up with that. That's another funny thing. I've noticed too like the more time you have to reflect the more kind of well if they feel like brilliant unique ideas and then you recognize like brilliant and unique people have also come up with those things too so it's kind of it's complementary. I think like me out about when I was forty two when I read my I woke up and Went Holy Shit. If it was just me I think this is my quirky weird Derek Philosophy. I've been living by since I was like fourteen years old. All this whole thing about making life deliberately tough on yourself to strengthen yourself for the unknown future all this stuff is like my quirky philosophy. I've been living my for twenty five years and Holy Shit. It's got a name it's got an ISM two thousand years old. That's amazing. Yeah that blew my mind to realize it wasn't just me. That's really the same for me as well. That's been one of those. Things set has been uncovered after years and years of practice and ignorance Yeah it yeah. It's I think it's really interesting to look at these kinds of patterns as you know insights or whatever and recognize How common they are in in history or indifferent wisdom traditions. There's there's something about it that kind of It's our common humanity. You know if you look deep enough into the abyss. Something looks back and it's often the similar things for people like in some ways. Were not so unique. I think it's it's very humbling in a positive way. You know I think about. Did you guys know that this was new to me? This may be known this forever that that eyeballs evolved in nature like forty different unrelated times. That it's not like if you look at a squid and their eyeballs are kind of similar to ours. It's not like Oh we have some common parent with eyeballs. No no no. It's the whole idea of two. Is filled with liquid liquid and a lens and a retina independently evolved like forty different times like nature over and over and over again has decided this is a way to see predators and prey and to get visual information. Reinvented the same way. Almost over and over. That's really cool. So I think about that with what you just said philosophically. It's like you could just sit all by yourself completely disconnected from the world. Come up with something and find out yet. The same thing that everybody else came up with. Because maybe it's the logical conclusion. Yeah Thurs a interview. We did a little while back with Dean rate in. Who Talks about real magic He he goes over experiments that have been shown to when animals and humans come up with ideas all over the world at the same time. Like one example. Was This flock of crows. I think it was in an England and they all suddenly gained the knowledge all at once how to open the milk caps on the milk that was being delivered to everyone's homes in the morning and like across the country. All of them learned it all at once now. The brand new future thinkers members for Dole is now alive develop your sovereignty.

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"derek sivers" Discussed on The Disruptors

The Disruptors

06:19 min | 1 year ago

"derek sivers" Discussed on The Disruptors

"Even excavating. Somebody's you know somebody's GonNa be digging holes from Waste Management So. Yeah people always need to be entertained. People always need to be educated. You can master any one of these disciplines. That doesn't require require you to chase. Every brand new little magpie shiny thing that comes up this year and I think that you'll have a competitive advantage for doing so because it feels feels like everybody else is doing the magpie thing and chasing every brand new shiny thing that comes along and your competitive advantage than to not is to not play their game. I I don't know if there's going to be a better way to start to end the interview. That's a great. That's a great spot to start to wrap things up I got. Do you want to ask me about the most most valuable advice I ever. Let's go for the most valuable advice. Either you give it or you can tell it well because I I'm glad the email that question because because it got me thinking about it and I ended up thinking about it for an hour or two because I don't know actually let me ask you one quick question before we do go for. You've asked that question to a lot of if your guests right Do they usually narrow it down to one thing. Some of them do some of them. Don't usually it's one two or a theme a lot often do though but people also like to answer so it's hard isn't if you had to narrow it down to one thing or two wouldn't it be so general as to be almost useless it would be unless you were speaking to a general audience. Okay because I thought about it for a while and I realized that there's not advice almost needs at target right. It's so Weirdo. Ask ME THE STUPIDEST NEW AGE question I've ever heard which he looked at me very seriously seriously. Instead I want to ask you a very serious question I said okay. And he hit record on his recorder and he said how do you love and I said well what is love what what a stupid question like it needs a target. How do I love nature? How do I love my kid? How do I love Miles Davis? What the fuck are you asking? Skin like. The verb that requires an object to its verminous. So I was thinking about this question about the most valuable advice ever received achieved as I will advice about what I mean. We can't just assume everybody just wants to make money or get famous so I wrote down a few for you ready. Let's do it. The the most valuable advice I ever received about investing is to set it and forget it can just rebalance five minutes year. When fidelity when analyzed all their client portfolios to see who's were performing the best and what they had in common at the end they found out the best performing fidelity customers were the people who forgot they had accounts there and so they hadn't even logged in in twenty years? Those were the best performing accounts outperformed the active managers by far most valuable. Sex Sex advice ever received was when the person you're with tells you exactly what feels good specifically and why best parenting advice have received received. Is that kids communicate by playing. You can't ask them a question and get a direct answer. Play is how they communicate. Best Marketing Advice I ever received. Is it marketing. Just means being considerate. Marketing doesn't mean blasting or spamming or advertising. Marketing is a business being considered. That's market them them. It's pretty similar to. It's very Sethi but but not just him. Actually Harry Beckwith Harry. Beckwith is the underrated predecessor. Mr Dissect go and if you can find Harry beckwith books like selling the invisible and he has about four or five of them fucking brilliant but almost nobody knows him best. Love advice have received. This is my first degree relationship. taught me how to be honest and not play games. Best programming advice was to learn the language not the framework to write code by hand hand. And don't repeat yourself best writing advice to right like you talk more succinctly best life choice advice is it changes good unless you're on the path of mastery if you're on the mastery path stick with it but any other time on thank you but otherwise changes good Whatever scares you go do it? Most valuable advice on taking compliments. A famous musician told me that people always come up to him after the show giving him a compliment and the best lesson lesson learned. Is You just say thank you. You never deny compliment because that's insulting. It's scary when somebody gets up to give you a compliment. It's vulnerable so if somebody gives you a compliment you just just say thank you and then you turn the subject back to them. Best advice ever received on romance is to be Meta considerate to let someone pursue sue. You aspire you and desire you. Don't put them on a pedestal. Because if you put somebody up on a pedestal. You're making them look down on you. Which is Meta inconsiderate? Best advice vice on hiring is to let your existing staff recommend their friends because people like working with people they like more than anything anyway. I wrote down a bunch of those red. Yeah we just got rid of. We don't need any TIM ferriss books anymore. That's pretty much all the best advice for everything asked me that question. That was really fun too. I Like I had a fun hour sitting there thinking about the different best advice I've ever received because the best advice you've ever received about sex is different than the investing advice. Hopefully I think that'd be a blog post on your site is it looks. Sounds like you've already done most of the grunt work for that one. Thanks for coming on today. Derek that this has been an interesting fund. One that's gone everywhere everywhere and I think going everywhere while also coming back to that having somewhere the specific minimal somewhere of mastery is very important for people especially for me to hear right now. So they're working people find you learn more about you and what you do. Well the reason I do these interviews is because I like the people that I meet when I do them so I always say like if you made it all the way to the end of this go to my website go to sievers dot org and I put my email address in a big font there and I actually replied to every email so introduce yourself else ask me anything. Send me an email through sievers dot org and just make sure it's not a question because it's always everything's a no. You got to remember what we talked about guys. Thanks for coming on today Derek. This has been done. Thank you and guys. Thanks for tuning in if you've enjoyed this disruptors.

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"derek sivers" Discussed on The Disruptors

The Disruptors

04:16 min | 1 year ago

"derek sivers" Discussed on The Disruptors

"Chitchat for a while and I was just like okay get to the point. What do you want and so finally after like forty five minutes I said okay? Look we've been trying to make the ultimate recommendation commendation engine and you know we've checked out the competition and whatever software. You're using their at CD. Baby just blows US away. My God your recommendations are the best in the industry you know. How were you doing this doing what they said? How are you recommending the customers? You get this music if they like that music and it's a bull I just listen listen to it. What do you mean I listened to everything that comes in? I keep some private notes and I with my memory and my notes. I say if you like this you'll like that. And they looked confused and they will. How will that scale? What have you start getting one hundred albums a day and a simple Donald? Hire another person to help me do this. What's the problem? They look so confused by answered. Sure enough. I did start getting one hundred albums day and pretty soon. It was to people's fulltime job to listen to everything that came in. Make private notes and recommend this music if you like this and that was it I never did spend millions programming some software. I spent thirty seconds paying. Some people still have the world's most powerful neural net ray in our heads and we just don't know how it works right. It is crazy and so many people on on this podcast. Don't think about that. Brought it up and then I see that with a lot of you know the. They've mentioned the customer service aspect. I because I do meet a lot of programmer nerds. I mean. I'm a programmer. Myself I love talking to my fellow programmers. But what's funny is when they started company they think that technology is the solution to everything and they're selling or even even be to be service matters so so much people choose one company over another based on a single thing like getting a human in reply instantly or somebody picking up the phone. These are the things that make people choose one company over another not the fact that you've gone server listener using in parallel functional programming on the back end. Nobody cares about that. You care but your customers don't so yeah I have a facebook. My accounts not working. I can't access it and there's no no absolutely no way. You can't even submit a customer service support if you can't log in because you're not logged in. Yeah it's that's a whole nother. Can Hannah worms. What What technology are trying to you most excited about? Why most excited about not? I just moved here from New Zealand. Held are your kids one kid okay when I was born. He's eight next month when he was born. I moved to New Zealand to be a full-time Dad for five years which I did because John Lennon did remember reading that story. That John Lennon's musician. Well apparently John Lennon had his first kid Julian at the height of Beatlemania and completely ignored him and he regretted it so when his second kid sean was born he said I'm going to take five years off. And he just told his agent. You know not everything. I'm I'm off the grid for five years and from seventy five to eighty. He was a fulltime dad and remember just seeing that in the eighties teenager thinking like if I ever have a kid. That's what I'm GonNa you do like if my wants my kids. Born like specially those first five years are really crucial. I'm just GonNa be fulltime Dad. So that's what I did. I he was born and we moved to New Zealand and it was mostly a fulltime dad for six years and we spent most of our time just outside in nature just playing in forests and beaches and climbing on the rocks and feet in the river hands in the mud. You know and it's funny that that was most of my life for the last. Six years was being out in nature which is timeless. This I'd be playing with my kid in the middle of nowhere with nothing and nobody around and the waves crashing on the rocks and the birds chirping in the trees and at the end of the day I would like turn on the computer again and I'd always I wouldn't bring my phone or anything. It's just me and him in nature just just being focused and at the end of the day he'd go to sleep. I'd turn on the computer and it would be like trump's this blockchain I just go now. This none of this is real like the to me. The real world is the physical cycle world and my kid and my life so I just turn it off again and things come and go. I'm not a geologist.

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"derek sivers" Discussed on Don't Keep Your Day Job

Don't Keep Your Day Job

04:08 min | 1 year ago

"derek sivers" Discussed on Don't Keep Your Day Job

"Through waiting on the sidelines through so K.. Story lifetime say to say Yeah from under dance with the story of a stronger than you. You DIG EH. Yeah On appeal sure. My heart has Yeah.

"derek sivers" Discussed on Don't Keep Your Day Job

Don't Keep Your Day Job

04:34 min | 1 year ago

"derek sivers" Discussed on Don't Keep Your Day Job

"Then just naturally I'm going to you Republicans that and do the opposite. I think you just have to trust that. Standing out from the crowd and doing the opposite of what other people are doing is usually beneficial. Yeah you have to try it to find out but almost always it's going to work in your favor. Everything is so good. I'm so excited for you and the books and the things and and and the WHO knows because that's the way you are and you guys are so much more of him out for you to soak up from Ted talks to all the essays and you can listen to those on the podcasts. If you don't feel like reading and you WANNA listen but Derek. Thank you so much for all of this time and all of you. I got so much personally out of your courage your courage bridge and that story about how you recently made this decision see. That's what's so cool. Is that fear. People always say like Oh you know. Fear is something contagious and spreads but courage is also contagious and see your self realization winds up being something that then lights the way for other people people. Oh thank you for doing that. Deep Work because you just gave me gift today thanks Kathy. It's amazing I'm so excited about it really like wow. Oh Wow. I didn't know I was coming to get that. Tell us where we can find you. Oh just go to civilized dot org. It's all there I'm kind of. I don't know if you call call it old school or again if it's just rebellious that I just keep all of my stuff on my own site. I've even just decided to self publish my next few books looks kind of feeling kind of diy rebellious right now. Like I'm kind of thinking I won't even sell through Amazon. I think I'm just GONNA kick direct So anyway go to CVs dot org the era. That and I really would love to just follow up with you and maybe oh comeback. When that book comes out I would love to chat with anytime I I love? I love your such jam. Thank you so much for today. Thanksgiving I love talking to Derrick. He so great to hear the takeaways. The number one let each new creation have its own personality number two if your energy is dissipated among too many things it can't catch fire but when you are focused something will catch that. Laser focus can make all the difference in the world number three. Your actions reveal your values better than your words number. Four perseverance is not doing the same thing over and Over again it's trying different things until you get what you're after number five. Go Beyond Your First Reaction Question Your own answers number six. Each idea deserves serves its own spotlight number. Seven life is a never ending exploration. There are so many ways to look at things from different angles and number eight chest that standing out from the crowd and doing the opposite can work in your favor. Chai it and find out. Thank you guys so much for listening. I know that there's so much to be doing from last minute holiday shopping and there's always still work and stuff with the House and kids and so much just so much so I just want you to know. I'm such a big fan of all of you. You and I don't take for granted that you spend your time here remember. We're going to be doing a fun celebration of all of your winds on Thursday's episode. So if you want a chance to be a part part of that you can record a voice memo email at toss at hello. Don't keep your day job dot com. Then we can play your actual voice right on the gas which would be pretty fun to hear yourself on the podcast and to make sure that you get to hear all the cool episodes that are coming your way. Make sure to subscribe wherever you listen. If you WANNA give us a holiday gift the best thing you can do is share the show with a friend it. It doesn't cost you a thing in. It helps so much honestly. I think that introducing this podcast and the possibilities that we talk about here to someone else that could really change the way they see the world in it. It really might be the best gift you can give them to bring them home to themselves and to help them start to do more of them in this next year next decade for those who on the northeast come see me in Montclair Doc. Their New Jersey. Four o'clock next Sunday December twenty ninth. There'll be a link in the show notes for you to RSVP the tickets obviously free and If you want to enter that giveaway all you have to do is leave us a review by tonight and DM me that a screen out of the review on instagram. At Kathy Dot Heller. I'll be giving away a thousand dollar Gift Card to target a movie be announcing that winner tonight. I love you guys. Leave you with a song and I'll talk to Thursday. The podcast is a production of authentic for more INFO on advertising in this show visit. Authentic shows dot com.

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