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S2E41: Im Too Rich

The Side Quest Inn Podcast

1:41:49 hr | 8 months ago

S2E41: Im Too Rich

"So evil dragons ahead of the lots of fun but to get control lights before the main press has to be gone retrieve off family heirlooms. Westlake. Let's go lure, Enjoy a plane to Bela take a seat ensure tail light Quest beside off. Hey everyone, welcome back to the end. Today's episode is pretty exciting for us. It is the end of our first I guess kind of first name real Homebrew Ark and possibly the beginning of our second home brew art to Homebrew arcs in a row. So grab a drink take a seat and enjoy as we bring episode 41. I'm too rich previously on the side quest in the group managed to find the mushrooms safe Kim's mom. Only to learn that it was guarded by a giant frostwyrm after a long fought battle. They defeated the frostwyrm and got the mushroom and prepare to head out of the cave to save Tim's mom off off. Hey everyone. Welcome back to the side question. I am Toby pack your Innkeeper and dungeon master. I'm JD. I'll be playing Peter for the evening. She'll be Lou Gehrig. I'm Felicia and I will be Alex today because he's not here. Apparently, he's here. Just playing someone differently. Hey JP said I was Lou Gehrig Jeff Thompson airplane Tim horn as always and you are all inside of an ice palace. Just kill the great beast and you're getting ready to leave. You got the mushroom that is needed to save tens. Mom remember you on a Time Clock you got to get back to her with this mushroom so that you can administer her before she turns into a ice statue. Zaric when we get started. Can you give me a survival Check Yes, and where we going to take a little rest be a bad idea, but I don't know. I don't remember if we discussed it or not. I have used all my third third fourth and fifth spells Zach. What's your survival? Check 26 26,000 you looking around as you getting ready to leave here the that creature the worm that exploded it has disrupted the Integrity of this Cavern. Network and you can see cracks starting to form us some bullshit right? There are numerous take ya know now resting we must leave let's go. Oh, yeah, totally we gotta say bomb it back up that river. Is there another way there is no other way and always has a back door. There's no back door to the Spire. How many dungeons have you been in Peter, O those jadi takut not Peter in my fear is the husband to fill it right off that mentioned before is it sounds like a great guy? Yes. Yes. How are we going to go swim up the river? Yeah. I don't think we're very good at conflict with what we use house so far. It's not a very fast. It's not like roaring. It's like a stream really look. Oh, yeah. He motions a good phone number. Say we take well, we had to climb up out of this ice crevasse don't you know, you guys got out of that. So you're up top getting ready to head back the way you came and that's the word for you. See all the cracks starting to form. We're off the campground that he has their know you're heading towards the campground. And so I so with my new things I basically get a plus two to my Athletics and an extra five foot speed back with swimming and if I use that in conjunction with the belt of lifting I can at least swim one person at a time without hardly an issue probably is just exactly how far think. Well. That's the thing if if it's not too far and you have a constitution of at least ten which everybody does and it would probably be it was seventy feet wage. Was it? Okay? I don't remember. So how far how fast can you swim good question? So is it normally half? No, there's let me look up swim. I can technically swim I technically would have a speed. So it's normally 4550 with that arm bands suck triple time so fifteen so I get to go 20 feet triple time with that 10 feet to his swim speed to his swimming actually. What if we do this do we how much rope do we have? We had at least a hundred feet, right? Yeah. We did. Why don't you take the Rope under and then everyone else can crawl along the Rope under the water? What if Ellie holds her bag of holding open and then spins around and grabs a bunch of air and then puts it on her head. She breathed me that she would still suffocate you what I say. You won't need to wait know. What's the plan? I thought it was to do the Rope thing and I'm not sure time are we at the river right now? Yeah, and by this point the rest of you can see the cracks forming and it's like starting to shake kind of I don't know that we need triple time because it's only gonna be helpful to Tim until he gets across and then it's going to take just as long for all of us to get through. All right Tim. So you get up there you get the hundred feet of rope. Give me an Athletics check to swim wage. Okily dokily 26 that's that's fine. You managed to swim at this rope all the way across like all the way under through the tunnel and back to the other side. All right, find a good place to secure the rope and I make sure well. Yeah, I just secure the Rope actually everyone no one has to roll with the rope that you can just walk in early. Just pull yourself through this tunnel. That's beautiful. That's all ye I have a plus zero. Yeah the Rope changed everything and you guys get to the other side and you may still like this whole cave is starting to just Rumble more you hear crashing from deep inside like pillars or are crumbling whatever happened with that that worm that you fought it if he caused a ripple effect through throughout this spire. Yeah, we gotta get out of here. You mean we have to go through that really small hole. That's probably going to crush us now and fast. Hay khong Like fuck go Everybody Run. Hey, you guys get to that whole who's going first? I used to mentioned or I will go first since he's the other side of the home just appears on the other side. Come on. What falling from the ceilings or yeah, absolutely. Nothing big yet. Nothing big. I'm imagining that Tim got their first cuz we were running so he probably would go out first. Well, I was going to I was going to share everyone else kind of role as that throw them if I had to Athletics acrobatics to squeeze acrobatics. Okay choice to go if it's okay guys. I'm I'm basically pushing you through you don't really have a choice. Okay, I'm grabbing you and manhandling you through this. Oh, I sort of help pull you through the other dog died fourteen. I'm Peter as you start like squeezing and crawling through this space you feel like this this shutter and you the ice it almost feel like the I scrub. Down on you, you're not stuck, but it's crushing. It's movie. Garmi Yo use all your strength father pulled. I'm going I'm going if you want to give me if you want to pull doing Athletics check twenty. Yeah, you you managed CLE reaching her hands out to you as you kind of squeeze through here you get to her she grabs you and actually pulls you out. I'm sorry never seen your a week led to your first. Oh my God. Thank you. Thank you so much. That means a lot coming from you know, I'm glad you're alive to his next song next or if you want to go zark. No carrots. There's like a freaking 34 his body and shit so easy, but with the shift of the Ice Age you find like you just crawl through no problem. So even better now, I'll go next twenty seven. Oh, yeah, that's fine. You get through as well. No problems. All right. All right. This is your chance to roll month ready for me to screw it up 30 30. Yeah you as well you guys that's great what gave you so much trouble last time you have just slid right through no problem makes running easy, but it wasn't bad. The rest of the trip is fine. You get out some some where things have fallen some caverns of Club. Up, but you managed to get out to the top where you're in that Cavern where you saved the Pegasus and yeah went fought those ice trolls. Let's get off here. He you guys are going to leave. Where did you live all your dogs and stuff? I don't know hanging out. I don't think we taught it outside just outside. They're just hanging in for a party. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. This is going to be turned into like the the merchant quarter, right? You guys talked about building like the shop and stuff off charging people to go inside like having like a donut shop outside of this like this spire entrance. That's right. As you guys are walking up to the dogs. You actually see stuck in the snow that Pegasus that you had saved and it's like standing there super proud. Hm. So so Peter we'll we'll follow Uma and just dead. Reach out to sand and and try to just pet it and just like you're such a beautiful. amazing Pegasus suddenly Peter has a memory of trying something similar in the cave and the Pegasus goes to bite your hand again. That's true. I did try that. Yeah, fuck she doesn't like me guys. I don't know why but missus she got a 19. I'm fairly sure that you're not supposed to just touching people's faces whenever you want. But this is that's a good point. It might she might look like a horse but she's got intelligence. I know she does she nods and she's beautiful as long exactly Peter will put his hands down like suicides and just and just try to look her in the eye and just like you're a beautiful horse or a horse. She'll she'll like Stomps her her hook down on and and turns away from you. All right fine. You made a mad. That's fine. Whatever. I didn't mean horse and you know, I didn't but that's fine. Let's do a pegasus that's going to make a difference. I'm not saying that to the Pegasus I'm saying that's a month. Someone of the cave told me that your name was Cass Camisha. Is that right? It nods and it kind of bowels to all of you and like spreads its wings out. I think she's introducing his dog loves me, but we will curtsy back on Chante I suppose. Hey nice to meet you. She hands hands down his side. So all you stuck out here. Could you do you need help getting somewhere or do you want help getting some money? She shakes her head. No and she kind of like gestures her snout towards your Shield. Oh, yeah, it's my family crest very well-versed in pencil or she stands like sideways and like off takes the same pose as the Pegasus on your Shield like wings out up in the air. That is uncannily beautiful. It's a very good likeness. Is there something that I can do for you. Do you she gestures her snout towards you like leans it forward a little bit. Do you want me to become a writer? She shakes her head? I'm very confused. I'm sorry. Hey, that's in your Shield. Maybe is is 6 to 6. Her head is a family member of yours. She nods really like an ancestor none. That's awesome. That's a Amazing. I've got this shield from my father. It's been in our family. So generations with a Von leitenberg sui back in you know, very old days off. One of my ancestors used to be a the writer of Pegasus. She she kind of like bowels again, and then she she reaches her snout towards your hand. I open my hand like she touches the palm of your hand with her nose. And you feel this warmth. Go up your arm. Oh, what? What was that? Did you get you might be drooling so sorry. Oh, it's what's that when you look on your on your forearm, there's actually a tattoo of like the the Pegasus wings on your phone. No. Holy shit. Sorry follow. Jeez not meant to be rude. What is this Peter? What is this? And she'll show you her arm. It looks like you've been you've been chosen by this pegasi. If I had to guess the same thing with the palm of my hand happened with my God. So this is just this is this is a God. No, I'm just saying that she was chosen by that page as I I'm saying Elliot you hear this noise coming from this Pegasus. That sounds like laughter. Hey, it was a good question. I'm not everyone's versed in Pegasus little she starts to see how it's a good see how it's funny though. All I know is if if showing laid eyes on this beautiful and this beautiful being she would love it. And so whatever it's doing I think it's a good thing. She like perks up at you and like like like does like a turn like stamps around in a month. Like a happy stamp. I think that she's flattered by that. She should be because she is a beautiful being and Sean loves beautiful beings. And so therefore I do talk to Ellie, will you give me in arkana check? That's what we're looking for. No, Peter nailed it 30. I'm Walt Peters talking about this you kind of get a glance at this tattoo and you recognize it was like an Arcane tattoo. Like there's like some Arcane power within this tattoo off. Going to say anything Ellie horses. That's totally fine. She'll tell her later should just she smoking right now wage. Oh, yeah me too a With what? I just don't get closer to a horse's. Yeah, right. I can Retreat it. Right you absolutely can he's not stopping me from doing. Oh, he know he's not stopping you said, you know almost thank you. The the what sorry, he always says, thank you. Very good meal. Thanks Neil. I love that. He's still sleeping, I think that's up to is magical by the way. What magical how like I can do like your spells now? I think you're that hover who for slave. I mean, I could be so honored. I took a flying gift horse in the mouth. But hey, it's your life. She looks at you confused. Like she doesn't understand what what you said. I don't think anybody understands that I think we would be honored if she joined us. Hey, maybe she can fly us back tomorrow get that mushroom there ASAP a or maybe not us. Maybe just you, I think I would have to tell her the stores and see if she agrees. I don't mean to interrupt your fascination with this pray creature. We must make haste if we were to save Master Hortons mother I couldn't agree more is Eric Dead Snow. Just this is not just some Looper know. This is a magical being it's still an animal know it's not maybe in the same way that you are an animal but it's much she's much more than that. She's not in it either but sentient and she understands she's basically talked to us, but she understands my dogs understand off when I talk to them. Well, they're still animals. Can you please That's true. Also, if it if it can understand us then you know, we saved so like it or if Avery she she's off Master hoarding all due respect, but I don't think you're going to be able to convince that creature. He tells you anything, it's Lifey it looks you attempt. She looks easy and she she nods like and like Bauhaus down and spreads her wings. She truly a creature of Honore. when you say that again, like she like stands proud like like pus her chest out just like super tall it Cassie. So, you know the way the Nord over I say to the Pegasus doesn't respond to you. Okay. Anyway, I start helping zarak with the dogs. Maybe you could talk to her and see if she would help us get this mushroom to Tim's mother faster. I can definitely ask I I turned her the job and I sincerely thank you for this this gift. I'm I'm honored to have the mark of the Pegasus. I'm not quite sure what it does, but I'm sure that in time I will learn and be worthy of it. Hopefully this might be quite a lot to ask but my friend here has had another is very ill and we came on this quest to find an herb to help cure her. We finally found it. But now we're running against time to get it back to her and save her. Would it be possible for you to Ferry one of us? It would be a great gift in in a great honor if you would back to not over. She nods could could possibly be a Healer friend Peter. He's the one who must administer the medicine. She shakes her head you only take away. Can you only take one Rider she shakes her head? Could could I go with or he had a friend Peter she shakes her head again. Could you show us who you would be? All right with so gestured to you and Tim and Ellie. Hello. Hey shaking her head. No, she avoids eye contact like she's not looking at her like you don't want them to read so it's okay. If I don't go we have to go see that lady in town and she can make the potion. Right. Well, that's true. I okay. You sure are pretty sure nothing special that needs to be done. So it's just a potion. I don't have to be there for it. But just you and Derek you'll make even better time than we did on the way home. Would you would you go? Oh, yeah. What I what I go? Yeah. I like riding horse like creatures probably as much as Horses I imagine and I'm going to fly and save my mom. I don't see a downside to this proposition at all. Yeah. What do you think it would be okay to cast haste on her page so you could get there faster. I'm I don't think that that would go over. Well based on the fact that she probably is fast enough already. Okay. Okay, that's like not even trying he cooks good food and then go ahead and put in salt all over and not even trying it. Oh my God, you gotta be. Okay. I think they're already the best. That's exactly right change like you know, right? Okay. Yep. You didn't have faced any more like about your I think you're right. I don't not to keep rubbing it in but are you going to cast fly on it too? I'm just I'm just kidding. I deserve wage. I'm joking. There's actually a good idea. Hey, this is a great idea. I just don't think this any Pegasus would be acceptable to take something like that because they think they're already blessed. They might have magic of their own. What if they have like a way to cast haste on themselves. Yeah. They're definitely this crazy magical in some manner. Oh, yeah. She kind of nails down for you guys to get on her Pizza. Can I have the the mushroom? Yes, here you go home pack it so safely in my bag really be really careful with it has to be in that shape when you get there. I'll keep you safe. Thanks for everything p d be safe on the way back home. Will be fine. I think I hope all right the party again. You're right. It's we've got to save his mother and this is the fastest way. I I agree it is I truly hope that you don't run into any any issues. We'll see you guys soon will be fine. Good luck to him off. Right? Let's talk and horrifying. Let's get rolling as you guys get on her. You can't sit how you normally would because of the huge wings. So there's like a gap between the two of you she starts Galloping and then spread her wings and flies up into the sky. It is so exhilarating and you can see the huge Spire to the right to the distance and the whole all the forest and the mountains and things that you came through. It is amazing. Oh lose my grip. Well, I guess it's just me good thing. I have the mushroom. We will find their bodies off. The way back to seat and plummet 70 feet can heal them later. Okay. Yeah, you all take off Sarah Kelly and Peter. What are you doing? I'm going to lash all the dogs into one chain and then put one sled behind the other. Okay, when it's it's one slight idea. Awesome. Nice nice. So you guys start back you're going to have to Camp again because of the distance it is a way I can I get a survival check to set up the camp. Yes. Also. Can I just take all the watch and stay up? I see if it's one night. Yes, Alex. What's your survival? 1517 you can assist Peter you have like yeah that gives a plus for somehow. I have a job. I can help please. I will be seated 29 you're able to get the all the tent and everything set up and it's fire going and time time for First Watch. So is Eric Yee. Going to take all the watches. Yes, but first I must pin down the guidelines. No one is secured the 10th. Sorry my bad. How do I do it again? Please stay inside. Don't mess with my dog's. Okay, it feels like you're just talking to me. I am I mean we're looking at each other. We're about two feet apart. Peter is not trying to set up anything. You tell Ellie to not mess to their dog. She's putting whipped cream in the feather and the nose of one, huh shit. Oh, okay. She's probably cleaning the mall with prestidigitation off if they're clean. They go faster. That's what I heard. That's good. Let me do this. Let me help you. Please don't curse my dogs. I'm not cursing your dogs. I'm just making them cleaner. Well, I won't thank you for going to wash them. That's fine. Zachary dogs, okay, did they need any healing or anything or they're fine? They they waited outside for us. Okay. Well, let me know if they need anything. She'll be happy to help. I will check them while I'm also doing watch I'll take watch if you want to check whatever. I'm just trying to be nice. You really hard to read off. Don't let anything on fire. You take what I will check my dogs. Let us know if you hear anything out there. Okay, I will still take the first one while they're going to sleep or just check his box the whole time just check the dogs, I guess because now I'm concerned about the fucking dogs for of the dogs are super clean. Like their coats are so nice. They're they're not dirty anymore. Literally. They smell like roses song. They're they're just Immaculate. Oh, yeah, because it's in a rose. This isn't going to stand out in a in a Tundra with some trees and snow there. No, man. No, I took my my my code all over them smells like okay first watch Ellie. Nothing. Nothing happens her a I don't light anything on fire. Either way there if you're taking the rest of the watches while Peter sleeping in L. He's going to sleep. Yeah. Yeah. I'll do the best I could take a watch if you Like whatever you just yell that from the 10th. Yeah, I hear I wake up hearing them switching watch and I want you to be on for a shot. It's like it's so beautiful. It's so beautiful. Okay, Zach, you're taking next watch Ellie. Yes, you fall asleep sweet you wake up inside of a shack. It's very nice. There's candles on the walls. You see like a cauldron off to the side. There's like skull fetishes bulb hanging up. Nice leather chairs like it is it is so nice in here warm super warm familiar. It doesn't happen before you see. Okay someone sitting in a leather chair. It's a man. He's in like a complete white like suit looking thing actually show. Show you a picture of him. I still want to see this. So she's sitting there. He's got like white hair this white soot. He's got like rings on his hands and just look super rich and he puts his hand on a table and like the what's this drill his fingers? What is the like is this have a name like tapping his fingers, but is that like just all it's called like the I mean, I don't know what this means it dropping. I think it's crawling if it's on a piano. He's playing the folk and piano Lounge. Is he playing a piano? That's the truth, you know, so a person it's probably a massage is they telling a fairytale about the waterspout? Oh, yeah. Yeah it it's probably the motion of the spider. Okay? Okay. He's doing it on the table. He's like drumming his fingers. He Busy Spider like impatiently know like like calmly and he smiles these you hello. Hello Ellie. You know my name I don't know yours. Who are you? I know a lot about you. Please have a seat. Okay, I totally think this is just a dream. Would you like some tea? What does it what does a t smell like you of course it he like what kind of tea is this moves his hand and a t, flies in front of your nose to sniff. Oh, it's delightful. Thank you so much very flowery, like oranges orange cents in here. Oh, I loved it the hint of of lavender deliteful, of course, of course, I like your jacket. Oh, thank you. Yeah, I've brought you here for a reason. Okay, you have something that I want and I have something you need. Well sounds like we should make a deal. What do you have? I'm all about making deals dear. I've gone to wash your family didn't leave you money. It's all yours riches beyond your dreams. And that sounds wonderful. What do you want? I want your magic. Can my magic? Yeah, you don't need it. Do you know you can't take my magic know I I can take it with your permission. You do not have permission. She sips her teeth. Did you need magic when you have money? Whoa. Whoa, that's a really deep question. She is like really having a hard time putting wrap her mind around it. Yeah, he smiles bright white teeth. Is he a vampire? Okay, cool. Is there any chance we can hear this month's? No, not at all like a dream, right? Yeah. I'm asleep. I can't I can't just give you my magic over. I think you could India because magic magic will always be there for me money. I can run out of where it can be taken from me. I will give you so much money. You will never run out. Magic, however, any shows you a mirror and you see like your grotesque self? Well, actually turn you into this. No, no you however that up daddy issues and mommy issues and all of that. I can take it all away. I can make your dreams come true know my magic book. Keep me young beautiful forever. So I'm keeping it. All right. Well, enjoy your time as a hag dear. We will meet again. Just what was your name again? I am Darius Darius. All right. Well, I'm not giving you my magic no matter how many times you come visiting me in my dreams. Do me a favor. If you change your mind off break this goal and I will appear and he liked us call flies towards just like this little miniature skull and it just floats in the air in front of you will take it and then you took a sudden you hear like fading here. And then you wake up and in this tent so weird dream Drive the school in my hand, huh? You're holding. The skull Zack would hear her like make that noise when she woke up. Are you? Okay? I did you give me the school know did you take it from a dog? No, I didn't take did your dog have one of them possibly? Why are you decorating the most schools? That's that's beside the point. They find them in the wilderness their dogs. Oh, okay. I'm off. I'm going back to sleep. Can I roll a nature on what kind of scotus? Yeah, absolutely. Well, that's a good idea. 34-game son. You recognize that as a pygmy School. Kick me off like small person. Yeah, like little fake creature. Yeah. Yes bright kind of you go in to make a cup of that. No, I know I just woke up and it was in my hand. That is a pygmy scope. What does that mean creature not an animal but a creature of Legend part of the Fey like gnomes thought I would just showed around could be offensive to some people. Oh, I'm sorry. She like put it away. I don't care what you do with it. Is it is it good luck or bad luck? I don't even look you look is what you make it. Oh, okay in that case. I think this is lucky and then she will turn over and go to sleep. Awesome. Tim and off just Pegasus is fucking ripping through this guy like wind is like pelting ice shot eyes snow pelting your face like it is flying so fast. Yeah. I I'm just going to like cover my face with my elbow and like tuck in as much as possible. Okay, she actually flies through the night. And you get back to North over as the the sun is coming up and she lands in the middle of town have we made it IHOP off gently like respectfully. We're back everybody. That's just us. I just start wave at no one's outside. Yeah, there's people outside this morning. Like there's people out doing chores and stuff. All right. No hurry know how long is the biggest they're waving at you you see Hadley standing on her porch, like like gyrating and like waving at you hardly. We we got what you're we were looking for a way. I see it and you'd help us right in front of me Jim. We got a how could you see it? It's in my bag. You got the head of that mushroom you're looking for well, would you waiting long? She like licks her lips bring it here. You know we go inside, has it. Yeah can can we go inside? Of course come inside. Let's get this going. If it's too warm, you can leave your clothes at the door. We live in the snow. It's a greenhouse Tim. It's never too warm. It's a clear house actually not sure what a greenhouse she'll take much room and like go over to like a like like a Alchemy type State station and the whole time she's just like gyrating her hips and like like careful with that choice. The only one we have. I know how to handle a mushroom dear. I'm going to need you to like, you know, pay attention what you're doing their adley see real important, you know, my mom might die gets it all going off and finishes the push and and hands it to you. It's this is what's going to cure her fingers like grains your fingers as you're grabbing the potion. Yes, that'll do the trick. What do we owe you in money will say one gold. I'll give her a gold. She smells it off. Thanks. Good thing. I didn't keep that in my breast pocket. Let's go. Thank you. Kindly a walk, you know to say you just as polite and thanked her and then he books he books at home. You get to your house you can hear the the bustle of the morning breakfast is being made. Everyone's doing stuff as I walk in. I look at PAW Tim and I just like not in my head. We have it what we need. It's not good to him. I don't know if it's enough hit has to be. Where is she? I start walking back to our dog. He'll he'll walk with you you get back there. And in the the time that you've been gone on the ice has spread across it's like going up her face only half of her mouth works right now dead. I didn't go upstairs with him just so it's clear. I respectfully waited in the the living area. Awesome. Can you hear me your your life your wake up Joe in courtesy, aren't you? Just calm down. There he am I supposed to just bought this in her mouth supposed to drink it. Yeah, it looks like it consent though. Well, I mean like you would know she would drink it. All right. Well, you just say, I have some here that supposed to carry a home. She like takes her Crystal e i c sharp hand and just like tries to put it on yours. You hear her arm like ice like breaking a she's trying to do this. Don't move. Don't stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. I'm going to I'm just going to need you to drink this so get ready Tim on the count of three hoopers. What time? Okay, here we go one who firt to hoofer. At 3 Hoover, right Texas are they don't ask this liquid touches her lip. You see color coming back on the ice starts to melt away and took like five minutes. She's all the ice has been melted. Well, I'd say that took about twenty years off you their mom. Are you doing to me? Oh, hey, I'm retired. Yeah, was it any trouble to get the mushroom? Oh, no trouble at all. Just a just a quick John out of town and we came right back. It only took a couple of days Bonnie ROM. Everybody Maza Craven and kisses you and just loves on you. Oh not in front of the kids thought they they're adults now. Well, this is the horn house. Hey, if we didn't hear popping and my through growing up, you know, we want to know the birds are the Beast Uma side. You hear Tim Tim hasn't yet? But yet but one of the Hortons is like speaking to you. How are you now? I'm a good and you good you're looking for a mate lot of friend. Am I could always use more friends. You're right. Pretty oh that kind of mate. No not in the market, but I would be your friend. But and also thank you. I think this is how early would she would do it much rather than this. Look if it's cuz of Tim honestly, he's the weakest of all of us. Well, right. Which one are you? I'm John Sean Johnny boy. I think I remembered him and Don Rickles on Jake John Bill Tom Jack Sam Hal Jim Tim. You know, I'm about Tim's age and that's kind of it's a big gap there, you know, like older men, not really no not for like relationship purposes personally and and that's not often you get to see what think you're wonderful and one of the other brothers comes up and like pushes him. Yeah, she's here for me and he like like perks up and stuff like flexing his pecs like in 50 first off like that guy like Sam. Yeah Samwise gamgee. No absolutely not. We're not this isn't happening. I've set my boundary now, please respect it. The easier way, she'll everyone stops they're doing and runs to the back. And what do you do? I do not follow I will step outside and go see if the Pegasus is still there. Okay, Tim all off. For your brother's come in and you all start like lip Bonnie, they all start lifting you up and like hugging you and just oh I'm going to go off. I'm going to go tap a keg part time for celebration. Yes, of course tap two of them three three of them. I'll start the donuts to yes make can you make 3 dozen I owe make it as many years of town needs. We're going to feast all day. We're working. I was going to start cooking. I'm going to start going crazy. You know, I'm gonna need some help him who's nil off. Neil's my I guess my new cooking assistant kitchen buddy, I pulled out. Hello. What is that mobile? It's a Talking fruit to Tim. You know to be rude, you're real smart guy. Yeah, I don't be rude. His name's Neil. Would you say he kneeled it Tim? Who's babe? That's my mom. You show some damn respect. Oh, I'm sorry. Hello. Jim's mom doesn't say much. Does she what she just had an ordeal a Case you forget your no deal. Yeah, let's go cook. All right, I start trying to get retrieving all my cooking supplies from him. I know before I don't know what I'm going to do. I don't know how I keep telling you. You can't talk when I'm retrieving items. Remember? Oh, yeah, let's show me. I don't know what you're saying. I just told you know, you didn't I don't know how to cook. I need you to show me how to cook. Oh, you don't have to cook. You just have to keep handing me supplies e o you want to juice me into The Breakfast Club. Oh heavens. No kill, you know what to be Juiced. Yes, that'll destroy you you'll be nothing but your appeal know it's just a secretion. Look squeezable. Never been Juiced till you've been Juiced by Horton. We're not doing that. Like I show the juicer. It looks like it'd be like a death to him. Don't put me in there smashing. Just give me a couple of squeezes page. Going to do that a nope. We're not that kind of friends, you know, you could hold my things and I'll put my hand in your mouth. But that's as far as we are going. It's all weird. It's already far too intimate for a fruit and a human is just saying it's weird. This is the perfect relationship for tip perfect. He can actually be in a loving relationship with a piece of food. Yeah. This is actually pretty awesome. I'm not gonna lie. It's getting better. Okay, is that who that mushroom thing was for wait what the Babe mom the mom and the other room. What what are you talking about? I'm psyched corn flour and stuff off. Mushroom in that place in the caves. Could you be more vague there deal? Your father thing in nearly killed me. Well, I mean you talking about those giants. No, I'm talking about the big thing the big I don't have hands. I don't know why I'm gesturing but I agree. Well, I guess the only answer I say is yes, I did what I did because I had a goal in mind and I succeeded at it. So I'll be just as big as you in describing my Adventures. Oh great. This is Tim. I've never had a friend like you I've known as long as you like as like I've never been pronounce up. What about the last guy? You're with I found I found you know, your friend was dead your old friend. Oh, yeah that goes new. Oh, I'm not your friend know he was a friend but like we've like we're going on 2 days now or something. Where did he? Oh so you can keep track of time. That's good to know. I'm going to always ask you for the time. So keep track. Okay, also, you know, okay. So where did that guy find you then a outside? Hold on. Stop talking. I need a whisk give me that I should stop talking. That's why we're going to stop I said stop talking. Okay, where did you meet that last dead guy? He that that's Eric guy. He dropped me in the cave and not with me PLS Eric had you first I told you I helped him once he'll deny it, but I helped him. What did you do again? I'm a robot. Oh, okay. Well, that's good. Where did you get the rope from one of the Shipmates? Oh, okay. Tell me what your shipmate see. Oh, yeah. I was on a ship forever ago off on the remember the stuff when I'm awake though. But okay, they sell you're not good at keeping track of time. I mean, I'm days ask me what day it is. It's what day is it two months. You're really bad at this. Oh, yeah. I was on a pirate ship for a while. I used to keep their treasure inside of me. It was a good gig. Oh like with like real life pirates. Yeah like our I'm a pirate like pricing they saying chanti Toons in the like yeah, they found me in a jungle. I think hold on a second. I need to get some more utensils and Angel pulled on and the truck. Me alive, but it's why did you why would they do that? Did you deserve it? You know, they tried to hide their treasure but their treasure was in me. Oh God. You still have their treasure? I don't know. I think he can't not talk while you get your hands as much I think you're totally right a hundred percent. Well, how did the Pirates? Where did they find you dead? They found me in the jungle. I think that's why I was bored. Oh, so okay. Well now that we know where you come from Neil you seem to be, you know, some kind of a wage and creatures some kind. Yeah. I'm free talked about need to grab some butter here. Are we done talking about me? Are we just kind of cook now or did you have more questions one last question? Okay, go ahead and and ask it. What do you want out of life meal what your goals? I just want as many people to reach inside me as possible. That's dirty. But okay, I mean going to respect someone that knows what they want. But but I mean, I'm not going to do that for you. So, you know if you want to give me my stuff back and I'll I'll hand you off to the next person great. Let's go ahead and do that. Why are you you're the next friend to abandon me, huh? Well, that's you are the one that wants this. Hey, this has nothing to do with me a tell you what you can get rid of me. I'll give you your stuff back. But can you take me away from this cold place first? Okay. Sure. All right. That's that's what your goal life is. You got it buddy. Nice anything else. All right. I'll just watch you cook if that's okay. It sounds like his life goal is to become a parking meter wage. That's what it sounds like now just a storage box in like a warm climate. He wants to be a temporary storage box that like a beach that people put their stuff in and they were supposed to warm. Yes. He used to be a peer on the pier just like a Pure Storage system on a theme park, New Jersey. Mountain bike. Is it Tackle Box on appear somewhere that says gol ghuma you get outside and you still see the Pegasus standing there. I walked back over to her wage and it's just anchor I truly appreciate that you brought it here and it sounds like they were able to save his mom. So mission accomplished and I hope to see you around sometime, but I wish you the best. So thank you. She nods and like stems a proud again and then takes off I'll go to the bar. Okay off the three of these Eric Ellie and Peter you wake up. It's morning. I imagine you're going to take off. Well here. Let me help around Camp Road Survivor home. This goes on top of this. Oh and if you color codes she should get a bonus because she knew how to do it. Last time you spoke to. Oh, yeah, that's right. She did help pack. It really well brings it up to a whopping plus the three folks. Hell. Yeah nine you feel like you're doing pretty good. But you're like pack and stuff wrong. You get it all packed up and somehow it doesn't fit back in the litter like it did before you can't just like objects on top of the clean ones. I can just clean all the objects if that's what you want. Are we ready to go yet? We'll see there in alphabetical order first by size and then my alphabetical by color. I really think we should get going. What if this is Tim's mom needs more help. This is entirely wrong. If you don't pack the pack right you can fall off. And then what will we be doing? We be gathering are objects wasting time. We must do it right the first time. Okay, we hurry up. Okay, she starts putting box down can't just tell me which one goes on top of the other. Yes are objects. We have many objects. Okay, none of the boxes. They're all involved sex like equipment. Let's just bring up a bunch of objects like who needs to we have objects. You know like a hunk of metal and never know when this is going to come in handy. You don't need this. What is this month? You get me back to shut up faster and go you have a spoon with every region printed on it still have the mounted in a case it bring them with you. Why do you have to bring all right. No, that's okay. I live on the road. These are some of my objects objects. I admire your objects wage complaint as lovely as you are you are you objectifying him. I have an objective you define what objects? Yeah, don't forget. These are my things my objects rubbish through your objects. I live on these dog sleds when I need to we must serve and not get mired for it. Can I help at all? Just tell us where it all goes that goes in in the bag on the pack Peter just starts out in the bottom. Heaviest things on the bottom. You guys get it packed up just fine that's just watched this slide and then all of our dogs last to the main line, so you want to be on the backside. Yes, you will be on the backside. Okay, and Peter were goes and settles in I'll take a nap for a look here. Don't you don't need this? Okay, you guys take off travel for most of the day about halfway through the day off and you hear like a bunch of bird noises all over the place and it's up ahead on the road. What is always a sound like sweet we can do a great birds. I was going to say Alex could do a great bird. I can't just doesn't doesn't need you like the back end of the thing. You are you yeah, that was good. That's really good. Yeah, that's exactly it. I just did the hey you look over here. You see them standing on the side of the road waving you down. You see this person inside of this like Contraption there there you can just see their eyes off of the smell thing. They have like this bird cage on their head and all these bird cages hanging from like this metal thing that's like surrounding their neck. I'm in front of them. They have this lever that they like it looks like they can like walk like turn and there's no contact. We will continue. I'll show you a picture new Realms have been so interesting. There's there's what they look like, you know, you know the most interesting job We found in Marat was a three like was a three legged man. That's like the most interesting who had who's actually just a one-legged squats just a one-legged even worked with the plug is this guy so often you see like bird feet on this person hears a lot going on but this is like a belt hat in one thousand one like is turning on America's immediately racist. Don't make eye contact your starts rolling up Windows. Well, he's just getting a bird can't even his he's all covered up. It's a total complete. He's just trying to get into he's wearing a bird feeder. Yeah. Yes. Thank you complete costume. Yeah, it's just like a copy of a bird cage off. They're waving you down. Are they going to stop my dogs? Are you going to get on the road? Yeah now stand in the road and wave both hands. I'll put the birds are so pretty. Oh God. No keep driving go faster. He is in the way song Hello Dolly when you say keep going dry faster, you feel your skin starting to like get hard drive faster. I mean, let's go help these people these people. Hello. Or do you keep going. Okay. Need to run down. Are you are you going somewhere? We're headed to Nord over they grabbed the the little hand wrench in front of them and like start cranking and you see the wheels around them start spinning and another bird like cage shows up in front. You'll go into neutral over a there we go. Who are you? Who Who Am I who are you or Peter Peter? I am cricketer. Nice to meet you cook Ur. Kaka. Kaka. Kaka. Kaka. Kaka. Yes girl. Thanks again roll sense motive. Can we ride with you? Yeah, you can actually roll backs. Are you what are you trying to send them to know if he really needs to go there or if he's trying to steal from me? Okay. What kind of birds are they Birds we're talking, right? Yeah where the birds talking for him. The noise was coming from you look on the front of the like long like the circular don't even know like that's like a little like, it's the part of the Takeover s a lazy Susan apart from a waste of money within a Birdcage. Yes, that little circle there. The noise is coming from inside that Circle so so is it him or the birds that are talking? It's coming from inside that Circle. So yep. That's where you hear the sound emanating from you don't actually hear from specific Birds just from that. We gotta Twenty-One. You can't really read this person surprised you have Birds sense motive can everyone nature and see if the animals like want to get away from this guy? Yes. Yeah, you see some of the birds are chained up to this thing. Okay, are they in James? So I don't buy he does not know how to keep birds. Why do you have so many birds? Why are you wearing this wage? But nevermind. I got a 28 I should check the birds look fine. Like they don't seem like they're like, yeah, they're healthy bite being in this freezing cold. What do you need to go order over and over? I mean sarek? We do have an extra heater. What's your name? Ali dead? Last name double duck duck. Yes. What's your name? Don't have a duck a duck is super upset. That's too bad. I was looking to get a fucking Tracey. I'm sure yeah a duct. Yeah, not a shit. Yeah. Are you a bird? I heard he's just gives me did you just asked if I was a bird? Yes. Oh, well. I'm not she is clearly. Not a bird. Thank yous Eric. Can we ride with you? You must wage its charge, please raise the priest priest, it's Ten Gold Tangled. Yes, of course, they grab that rent and buy turn it again and that goes around and you see a huge like McCaw standing on the edge of one of these and it puts its head forward and like just sits there. And please I guess I'll stick my hand out. Absolutely. Not no and dog. Are they all they're yeah, they're ten. Yep. Okay, right. Right. Right. Right. Does he have any birds of prey? Yes, there is a falcon on there. Somebody may get themselves a bird dog. Are we safe? You will be fine. Okay, if you were startled yell, I will hear you. You know, he also has butterflies to home. I saw that. Yep. She has like a butterfly thing, you know, like on his waist. They're both of those. Are you like butterflies? I love butterflies. So beautiful. Oh, no, thank you. Oh, what do they cost? Actually every free? Why are you giving out butterflies? I don't have a dog. Could be good if you're hungry because they're free. But oh sorry, could you excuse me? Just for a second zarek? Is it safe to take a Butterfly House guys? I do not know take one see what happens the very least. You could eat it. I don't think you should don't take anything. I took ten goals from the man who was a bit of a steak Yeah, that might that might be infected. I don't know what that is a woman. I took ten gold from the woman. Please be careful. I don't want a butterfly right now because we're going to be traveling fast over fly away. But thank you so much for the author talking to Chris. Of course make a correction. What is your name, sir? Mine, who are you talking to you? So you you you you you I am Derek Derek Derek off their last name. They turned they start cranking the wheel again. What is its name spin? Yeah, the whole thing spins and another Bird shows up on the front lines are down normal, Krakatoa. Cracker, girl. Yeah, are you going to help beat up? Now the priest will help you with praise praise. I even this one here. Let me help you out onto my sled priest priest you go and he sticks out and I guess going to buy anything. No, I'm okay, but here please hop up on the sled feel like hop up and and stand off and just sit down with legs crossed. I love how you momentarily was like a drug dealer. Hi there very much. You want to buy something, you know looking around looking to score. Yeah, butterfly Somali. I have one of these Shimmer Birds the dust from that. Hm, it'll make you fly sun. Go go go. Okay, we're ready. Imagine the dogs like this very is this a is this a human? What what is this? I couldn't see there's too much cage in the way and made it birds as you start driving Peter Paige this they cranked this will and and it spins around and one of the bird sits and faces you Are you hungry? No, I'm okay. I had breakfast we're making food you want some what are you making? I don't know off her was there before? No, I'm okay. Like I said, I had breakfast you watch as one of the birds like like hops around chain dangling from this this metal page and like starts regurgitating food through that like seize. I knew that was coming. I'm definitely not hungry. Thank you though. Hey, hey priest. Yeah. Yeah, make sure those birds don't feel full over my objects. Yeah, that's a done deal. Sorry. It's objects. It's my objects know forever and clean. Yeah, they're they're going a lot and we will be nice and Thursday. We are driving. Nevermind l e. Yes. Hi. Good talk. The whole Drive is like that. Oh my God. We're road trip ever. So annoying worst road trip. I wish I could roll. I wish I could roll the partition up between our sleds off. So you never let a beautiful birds with you are beautiful birds. Yes. Yes. Yes. What else what business do you have in town looking for trade stuff? So you sell things yes, I offered you stuff already found. What else do you sell? What are you looking for? I wasn't really looking for anything, but I don't know. What just tell me some things you have to offer. They they reached into a pouch and pull out this like this like Crush leaf. Oh that looks like a crush Leaf. What does it do? It splashed? It's what God. I don't know. What spash just a drug is talking about a drug. Oh, I don't do drugs. Are you having are you don't know so you've tried them know I don't do drugs. Have you tried it? No, I haven't tried it. What else? Do you have? Any authors? I suggest you try it. This may be your only chance JT. I mean Peter. So what try drugs I'm dumb sees Life by the horns living up. That's I do not feel like that's a show-off in simple everything in Manville birds of a feather bro. They flock together. Yeah. We're not birds of a feather not traumatic experience all beauty without drugs not met again. Same time Tobias ever off. Do something in game. He's never Ledges wrong always trust. We need to fix a zipper. Are you kidding me right now? Bullshit? Yeah. No. Thanks God. We got some some some scour. Oh, no. No. Thanks. They pull out like you see like a powder substance want some. Oh, no. Thank you. I'm done fine. They snort it. Okay. Oh, what what did that do to you? Oh you want to try. I just wanted I want to hear what it did to you. We also got some some Elven abstinence since Did you say abstinence absence ocean chefs is a very it's a very strong substance. I am only really interested in God's creations. Like what what search you put in your gum and walk. What does it do? You want to try? No, I want to know what it does. It makes you feel good and strong. Oh, okay. Thanks. How bout you ask? Well why I'm wasting time. You said you were selling things. So I wanted to know what you were selling me. You want to buy maybe if if you offered something that I'm interested in his right is no fun. Sorry, hey lady. He says well tripping balls. Hey lady. Are you okay? Oh, yeah, you've reached red hair. Thank you. I think they might be on drugs. Can I feel it? Okay. Thanks. Peter o my hair. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah God do I see their hands? Yeah their hands kind of like they have like these Talons at the end of their fingers talents. Okay, I'll use it to make a nest. Oh, just how do you get it? So soft, you know vitamins off whatever vitamins. You know capsulized humors. What are you looking for? We got play playlist. We we got pets. I'm good. Thank you. Thank you so much. Do you sell just in town know we travel travel travel travel? You don't want to even try free sample. Why were you up at? No, thank you. Shut up at the ice Spire. What? Well, you're like on your way towards the ice Spire. What are you doing up here? Where's the ice Spire? Well, I hope you're not trying to go there cuz I think I I think we pretty much collapsed it but it's not there a couple their accounts are how far is it away day and half the day and a half. That way. Oh you want to try anything? It's free is Eric. Yes guys giving away free drugs just takes the drugs are always free at first, but then they charge you the afterwards. Are you yelling that up to us? Oh, no, then I will take free drugs they're dead. Do you want some scour we can we can do it together all of us. What ask our oh it's it's this this powder. It turns all your bad feelings of the good feelings and thoughts mayor bad feelings. It's a good feeling stop. I mean, he's like a car like the back. I can't I guess I can't really see what I do have a lot of bad feelings this song reliford. He says a bird on a chain. Do you absolutely neighbors? It's all in its Talons L. He's ever done drugs before has now role of fortitude to like being vegan straight-edge back. There has some objections 434. All right. It has no feelings are still there. It has no effect on you know, it wasn't a bad trip though as it no and you actually feel great. It improves responsiveness bap. Press his thoughts and kind of just leaves you like you're not addicted or anything. You have any negative effects. You just feel really good. Oh, okay that dude squawking just kind of starts fading away. Yeah, you have to be so close to me know your cozy. No no warm one foot tweet. There's enough space. I can't I don't have a seat belt. I have to hold on song don't stand so close to telling me smells like roses are you cuz he's rubbed his coat all over his Rose. It's not like roses. It wasn't intentional smells one of the Birds flies on a chain and you see him start cranking that crank in front of him and the chain starts getting longer and longer and this bird lands on your shoulders Eric and start smelling you is it what kind of bird is it? It is it's in the picture. It's that like pink bird with like the like small and oh, okay. Yeah, I shoot a way you do. You smell the intention Hobbs land in the lady. Know if flies back all this goes on for the whole day drugs off our way. We want to test let's do all the drugs. You want to try the other dress try mom. And the rest of the day goes by this thing off by the end of this your your heads. You have a headache from all the squawking like this. This guy doesn't stop talking you get back to town Tim and Emma are bringing out different places you end up you all actually end up at the Horton house. I'm at the end of this day Zack. You probably go home. I get my money from an order to get it know all tangled. Oh, yeah. No, he is. He gave me some gold. Oh, that's right. That's right. It did it. Did the right. Will you be here Thursday? Next day or two. Let me find you. Oh, yes, find me and they like run away. Goodbye girl. I'm gonna glad they're gone. They were really loud. At least you'd be like bring those metal cages on over here. I got some trees for those birds to perch on. She's no longer. I who am I intend you hear them approach? You hear the squawking actually hear the squawking in the middle of town at the loudest thing. You've heard. I immediately go outside to see what the hell's happening ucle Peter and Zurich and this like that bird thing with all the birds walking running away from them. You guys would also no speak English. Well, the horn house also has a I imagine a lot of the townspeople are around now too. Yeah, cuz no beard. Yeah. We're having a celebration you get right there. You see it's like drinking and stuff. There's an ice chest of odd. It looks like things are going really well. What happened to him? Oh so good to see hugs. You know, you're here to eat vegan big old bear hug. He's like everybody have a tree cry mom's cured. Everything's everything's great place we're going to do. So we're going to do some mock just need a little bit. It's going to be amazing. It's going to be fun way to watch that. There's plenty of donuts inside. Well that stuff and and just so we're clear. Am I the only one seeing that weird-looking guy over there? Cuz if it does the case wall too much to drink we picked up a Travelers real guy was real they picked up a hitchhiker. Okay, I got you. I got a I'm going to walk up to those drugs. They pay their Fair olives and I get real Stern with him. What are you selling in? My toe? He's running around. Ikeja. Two. Yeah, I'm fucking fast a picture of those people who wear them giant mascots and you can just with your little if you just rubs, I'm not going to chase. Okay, he ran after them. He was like running to the to the app and I owe ya people got a reason the dogs that scared him know he's not going to run. He just likes to Tim's too happy and he's loving what's going on at the house and everything. So yeah. Yeah. Okay the goth kids show up for the party. They can have a beer. That's fine. That's that's the whole point. This is come on in and get yourself a beer. That's absolutely welcome. Hadley's there. Of course people are playing games. Like literally. This is a huge celebration. They brought the mammoth out what the Manas out Maggie's name that as a man or two fresh Mammoth milk. We're about to suck right from the T. You're going to join us. Come on over here. Oh, yeah. It's a great time. It's tradition. Show me. Too Short, thank you. So mush. It's it's not it's our it's it's terrible Chase tradition. You're not too short those teats are almost to the ground. Excuse me. I believe he's talking about the mammoth. I mean never turn down a nice new experience of food. So absolutely let's go. I'll try it. Yeah. All right. You just put this novel in Harry bit right here in your mouth. Absolutely. You walking away takes two hands to hands. It's big. Oh my God. This is delicious. Think about six inches in diameter really weird, but I like it told me up there. Can I get a taste of 16 centimeters metric system never got off yet yet. You hold with one hand here. And then the other you you must stroke with the other the base. Yeah, you pull towards yourself, right? Yes, but not too much because you don't you don't want to spray yourself in the face. It works their way to get pictures jokes on you guys. Oh, you don't ever forget that everybody. We are all my brothers and stuff. Cheers and we drink look at these Mooks the time you guys are missing out this fucking delicious. Welcome to Lord over wage watching you. I want to try some of that dude. What the hell man? Yeah. Everyone's just having this just such a good time. Pizza mom's out there as the night progresses Tim's dad like stands up. Hey, everyone quiet Sam, Tim. Tell us the story of what happened. You brought back the like the Tusk like the mandible. Okay this creature. Well, we find ourselves bravely going down into the depths of the icefire when they come across. The the biggest ice centipede you ever you ever did see their e like I'm talking like 16 to 20 meters. Yeah, I think it was, you know a big anyway, so we were fighting this thing off, you know, I didn't know he hits pretty hard but you know, we take it and we got yo, that's what Peter is here for Thursday. You keeps us all healthy throughout the bad old. Thank you Father. Yo. You're welcome. That's what shelling would want. And then we got you know, our local, you know, Ranger over here is Eric is was instrumental. You can thank him to everyone cheers you got over here if it wasn't for her Lance, we wouldn't have been able to you know, even get any kind of a wounding done to this thing's I'm telling me that was colder than the Frozen North Des and the Twilight of the old Solstice Theory she hit real hard. And then and then I said like a performance to like get in the glory they cheer for you. And then we also got red here. She was instrumental. She actually can wield the power of fired her hands the arch nemesis of a centipede such a grand creature couldn't stand it searing heat everyone cheer her fire. Her fire was amazing. That's right a month and then with my strength of curious and the fierce competition of having to win this battle. I smashed a 40-metre till a 20 metre tall ice Fire & Ice. The creature and it and here's what I have is proof and I show its mandible or whatever. I have Tim's what ended it Tim. You're officially a man. Now who said that my dad. Yeah you before you've slain your beast. That's right. And I slay I slew the biggest one even though I'm the smallest here. All of you guys can go and suck at 8 when they all cheer me a lie after the speed ones cheering Tim's dad actually approaches you hello. Mr. Horton. Hello, Alec. I I believe I owe you an apology. Okay. Right well and he like that again. Thank you. And apology felt better having to my own life was great. It was absolutely not an apology at all. Yeah. He did. He apologized this close. Oh, it's because I didn't even not even close. No, you just acknowledged that he should yeah, that's like doing worse. No nice way worse like, oh, yeah, I should say thank you for that. Yeah, so the party goes on into the night. What are you all doing? Getting massively drunk. I literally don't know cuz I'm black out drunk. So I have no idea. I don't I don't wish like you get a decide. I wish to break have problem into our festivities, but I do believe I am owed some payment since you returned you think about me all of you. Oh, yeah. It's 10:00 right off each. I think. Yeah, that's fine here and so give you ten and your drunk friends. Let me go. Hold on Tim Tim. Hey, Tom is your money for you sir? Who the fuck is this? Who are you see a tab? Looks so fucking drunk. You've never seen him like this ever before and he's talking really weird. He has on a subject. He has an Oliver Twist on that. Is it actually is it actually the Ten Gold? It's like it's like let's just call it fifteen. Just way too much. I will take this keep your 5 because I have Daddy pushes the guy. Hello Governor talk like that. It's fucking rude. My name's Alma o m a boy. Hey, that's pretty good. That's on the just like it Haley. I've been practicing say rubs off say God. I'm the strongest man here and I make donuts am the strongest man. I make donuts say I cannot tell the difference. Oh my God. It's incredible. Cheers to that like page one starts drinking again J Dobbins chairs the night the night goes on. The next morning everyone wakes up. What's next? I'm still sleeping. Peter is is up early saying his prayers to showing Yeah, Tim is off the Pearly and holding a huge Boulder above his head every one of those are better Fighters. Yeah, as a matter of fact, it's the family Boulders in the backyard. Yep. We're all lined out. You all have your own Boulder as a matter of fact, as a matter of fact, we're not even just holding Boulders. We're starting to get kind of crossed with each other throwing Boulders so you can go throw in the farthest and it's getting eat it as a matter of fact, it's uncomfortable. Well, I imagine that everyone every month would take someone's challenge exact. It's exactly what it is. Yep a hundred percent. Sometimes we don't even have to do it for an hour because we get the challenges in you know, then it's all whoever wins is done, you know. Hey girl, Yeah, wake up. I was opening my eyes wage. Good morning. Good morning. Is it really bright in here? Hey, I wanted to know know there's no lights on at the moment. It must just be your cheering to me is my head just hurts. What's up? Well, I just wanted to tell you about the guy who visited me in a dream and asked to take my boss tricked. Do you happen to know anything about what kind of creature could do that? I've never had a dream like that. Was it real estate know it was definitely real I got this weird thing came as a souvenir do your dreams get you souvenirs. My dad generally not. Can I roll something nature song? Same thing that certainly it's a pygmy school like you recognize it looks like a pygmy skull. I don't know how you'd get that. I don't know how you could get something physical from a dream. It probably magic items solve every sure. Yeah, what kind of creature can like take someone else's magic? Oh well problem after another day something that has magic probably probably so why did he give you the school again? He asked me he said he would give me as much gold as I could ever dream about in exchange for my magic and not a weird. That's really weird. Also, you can just marry a rich man and then keep your magic. Different Aldo that's what we do. You're so right and she just like puts the skull away with purpose. Anyway, he's not there very often, you know, just just don't make any decisions without my discussing it first cuz that's that could be really bad and like we saw you suggestions that instrumental in the fight with the worm and we wouldn't be able to do that without you and we wouldn't be able to do it all if you didn't have magic and yeah like its it would have been impossible you saved his mom's life because of your magic. Hm kind of all I'm good for huh? Well, no, it's I mean, you've got the fashion sense as well. That's not magic. That's just a lie. She will hug you that pet pet. I really feel like we're bonding. This was really good for us. Anyone else just hear the studio audience ended off. Like some like most sex offenders. I I did not hear it Dave matching you go down and get some breakfast. Yeah. Yep. Yep. It's like five silver cool. I'll give him a gold cuz I don't carry silver when you I will accept that as half payment for mine. When you go to grab a paper both of ours. There's like double the gold you had in there before Oh, no. Yeah, I think my golden do you need help I can pay for bills. Nope. Nope, the opposite. Actually, I'm too rich I'm too rich usual. Just I think she called Multiplex. Did you put your gold in here? I mean, maybe let me check my bag. I not pay Zurich. Did he get the gold back? Are we friends? No, I am asked me for gold. So I think that he probably wouldn't have given you yours back. My looks to be in here. I thought maybe cuz I didn't I don't remember much the last night at least going to look around wildly for her home for any red eyes or her coven mother or whatever or Darius or whoever Rolla perception check 27. You don't see any red eyes or anything of the like you looks very suspicious like uncomfortable. Are you okay? Yes, what now that we're good friends, right? Did I do anything stupid to get some gold last night off? I don't know cuz I don't remember if I did anything stupid I ever owned. Oh, okay. Okay, and then she wants to ask him and and the rest of the party so she will finish up her breakfast and run off to Tim's awesome. Okay, you guys get tense? It's bustling bustling tense making breakfast. You hear him talking to someone in the king of friends in here. Yeah Neil the egg. Most definitely came first God. I don't even know why we're discussing this. Oh, hey read what's going on? Thought that they come first. Hi where you say? So you say the rooster did it makes no sense? No roosters. Don't lay eggs, Neil. How could the egg appear without a chicken dude? It doesn't wage. It it's like saying that the the items came first before me. Okay, I'm sorry red. He's so rude. What can I do? I am. Sorry this guy. Can you believe him? Thank you. Hey Kim house silver were you last night? I don't even know the definition of the word. Are you I'm going to tell you what Tim put inside of me. No, I do not and I will leave the room. It was a loony wage. Also. I love the idea of Tim and Neil having more progressively complicated philosophical discussions that we all just walk in on, you know, they're like just like just like fucking witnessing. They think intellectually about just the oddest of subjects. It's I just think it's kind of sad that Neil wins most of these conversations. It's probably cuz he's from some magical tree. You see Charlie the fabric of reality Ms. Starting to leave off. Where are you off to a well our next stop was going to be hands reached right? Where are we going there? I have I have family there. Oh, you're breaking up here to like we're cousins eight. She told you she had to go kill her. Mom. Just Peter there's oh it wasn't passing. Oh right off computers there. Okay. I want you to spend time with your mom. Well, well, I mean, it's only fair is fair. You helped me. I'll help you. It's it's time to help you with your more hands make light work a I really appreciate it. Thank you. All right, so let's pack up and go home. All right, you got it. Exactly. Are we doing? We're finding my real mom and then killing her cuz the opposite of what we just did put him in her sure. I could do that. Oh, okay. You're just get you stay here know showed us. Okay was just killing people. Okay? Well, that's true. I haven't made up my mind. I haven't actually met her yet. So wage right now. We're just your your your part of the family reunion. So we're just going to go meet her and it's not unprovoked. Okay. I'm going to meet her. That's fine. M-hm. Should we advise Eric? He seemed nice enough. Yeah, I see no reason be I don't know how we're going to get across the Frozen Wasteland thoughts on this way. I can I can come up with another character no tears that there is no other guy I can think of that'll get us across this here. Northern rail me she did you bang Job, very good Yelp review. I'll do it when we get back. You mean he didn't give him a Stars yet. I'm a small business owner. You are driving a letter. Yeah, you have to do it. Yeah, I'll do it. I'll get to it. Where is he right now? Anyway tradition you said all you have to do is go over to the Old Stone and put on the Stars off my God. It's right. Yeah, it's far away. Okay fine. I'll go right now. Yes right now start pushing me. Stop it. Go faster. He's at the end or his house. He's probably at his house with the dogs with the dog need a rest. Well, I'll give them a five-star review. This house is number 7 on the map and say that he sings if she met him extra. Do you all go to Derek's house plus dad jokes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What does he like moved away to start that business at the icefire like everything's just gone down. Businesses at the I. He's going to start to do the tours without a suit. He's he's kind of running. He's stealing idea that business caved-in. Oh, it sure seemed very true. Okay, you're right about location. Well, it turns out you're here is Eric. I'm right here. I've been here the whole time. Is there a guy already paid you right? Yes. Well, that's that's right. Oh I was so I was so distracted here. I gave you ten more gold. Now you totally prepaid me masturbo. No, I don't think so. I don't remember ever paying any gold a you've definitely paid me and you said keep your chin up chip. I think the front office. I don't think that was like, I don't think I'd say anything like that. He suggested I would it's like that I would expect you to punch me in the face. Thank you very much for governor page him Tim, you know mocking my accent what? Yeah very drunk and you kept saying like Governors shit. You see you see him touching his face and nobody punched me in the space. I mean I may have once but this is Mark. Hay sarek since you just finished up a job. You're in between jobs right now. I was thinking how would you like a job? I am in the market for more work wage. We need to go to hagg's reach. I know the way can you bring our whole party with you? Yes, 250 miles now. It's not that long. How much would that cost? It's only twenty gold. Wow. Bargain. How many days travel are we talking here? They're ten days. If it's dead, there's no weather 12 days. If there's a storm go per person or Twenty gold total. There's no I aspire to Traverse. We will do better in the wilderness, but there are dangers. Oh, okay, so we should prepare better as what you're saying and encouraging it, right? All right, what would you recommend us bringing? You need more cold-weather gear? We won't be climbing or swimming. But there are trust trust rules and their winter wolves and there are witches. I mean, I already got one of them we are going to hags reach. It makes a lot of sense I'd say just if you know how to prepare against to which you're doing one up one more than me one of us might cause I haven't met a creature yet that I couldn't punch into submission just saying I haven't been a credit. You couldn't put it into submission either. That's exactly right, you know, you can always trust a horn on that one month. So we leave tomorrow tonight. Oh my dogs need a day. And then we can go. Okay, The Day After Tomorrow will say you take the day in between sessions. You can buy your items or things. I'll I'll let you know what's available for purchase in this town. When you get to the exact place. He has all of the dogs ready to go. So before we go to xerex or at sometime Kelly would just love to leave a message with a dream message Mundo. Oh, yeah, we still haven't heard from him and he's like part of our team. Let's do that right now. Yeah, true that. Okay. Can you print your message how its twenty five words? Are you doing dream message or you doing the one where he can actually talk to you suck could prepare twenty five words would suck. It's like less than a tweet. What is it called? I don't even know say that. What was it sending? Yeah sending you send the creature mental age of twenty five words or fewer and it can respond immediately with its own message with twenty five words or fewer starting now. Hey Raymundo, we are going to hagg's reach and I love to hire you to help me kill. My mom done possum remained. Oh, you are getting all of your stuff ready for the next part of your journey going to be on math. Heading to Jama Jama Juice. And all of a sudden you it it says you have to like accept it. Not really but like you hear all sudden like you here Ellie talking in your head and she says those those words and you would know in a way for some how you would know that you could respond. I can respond immediately. Yeah, you have to respond immediately. Okay. Hello Haley. It has been a while. Can't talk now. I am too busy. See you soon. Goodbye. How many fifth level spells is Ellie have a day two or three sounds like someone just got fucking the keys or anything. You just you you're about to be ghosted. Oh, well, I'm lucky. Oh guys, you can send another one like you're going to be sleeping. So you'll get your spouse back. Yeah, I can send two more. That's true. That's true. I love this song. But hey Raymundo. Where are you going? Why does it feel like you are breaking up with I was going to say us but I run out of words, so stops it with. It's twenty-five words, right? You got more. Well, she's deaf there. Okay heart emoji. Haley my friend I am not breaking up with the group. I am very busy having to yamas much-loved Muchos or more cheese. Oh, hey Raymundo. I only get to kill my mom once I would love your help dagger Emoji off with a heart emoji and a smiley face and if there's an emoji with a puppy dog with really big eyes Haley I am very interested in a cannot come in person will send an emissary. heart emoji heart emoji heart emoji Peach What the fuc? Okay, that's the last message that you get from beginning to wonder if these magic messages should have emojis your first place. Yes, they do but it's more of a feeling very it is that's kind of the person actually sound like to be audible write a piece sounds like hey, dude, that's gross. I can't believe you would send that. He has no context to know what that means now. That's okay. That's the last thing that you hear. What do you do with this information? And what is you do busy with whatever what time is it time to go? Yes. So go talk to Uma, okay. Hey, hi. What's up? You seem down. What's wrong talk to Raymundo. Did you talk to you know, he's not here and that's the point. He said he's too busy to help kill. My mom with me. Nobody intercepted that message, right? No, that's good. That's probably good. But he said he said, okay, so I asked him like three times and not only did he say he was too busy sending an emissary. So not someone to come help it sounds like he cares. Oh that was like a nice thing to do. Yeah. I mean you probably wouldn't send anyone. You said he said he was too busy taking care. He would have just been like I'm too busy fuck off and he's going to yeas something. Yes mere yes me a place. I don't know. It sounds like a place. I know there's a place called you unmask that it's that the one that sounds right? Maybe he has more business. I don't know. I mean he he had a a reason to be with us before we were trying to help him all it was helpful for him to have us there. Maybe he just moving on. Sorry. I know it's hot. Nope, it's fine. It's fine. I'm excited to meet his Emissary and she'll walk away. Just know that it's okay. Bye. I'm sorry. What were you going to suck? She did like she's like hangs the phone up the fuk. Sorry. I thought you were needing Emissary might not mean friend. It could just be a professional so just be aware of that. Don't get your hopes up that it's going to be like an amazing person. Okay. But be glad for the help very true. Thanks. I talk to you like I helped very much. You didn't thanks. So awesome off. You guys all get to the sleds. The dogs are ready to go. Zach's got it all set up so you can take off and that's where we're going to stop. It was a sad ending off now that you're on your way in the channels and all been told dragons us making catch up on Thursday and the slight west side quest off.

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WAR OF THE ROSES

Johnjay & Rich On Demand

16:05 min | 8 months ago

WAR OF THE ROSES

"You've worked so hard for all the things have. The salary, the status success. With, that image there's a drink. One wide want to loosen up wanted to take the edge off. But. How do you know what a drink is more than just a drink? We get it we can help. Karen's grandview program has been helping accomplish people just like you regain their lives. Talk to. Visit Karen Dot org slash view. Not. Only do you need to know if they're cheating you deserve to know the truth? Right. Now John Rich except for the roses. DRA is in a relationship. Yeah. High. Do you think your boyfriend or your husband? Are you married? What's what's the story with you? Friends we've been together for five years we've been living together for two. And all of a sudden. Out of nowhere, he started being real weird about his phone so. It's really making me suspicious and I feel like he's cheating on me. and. Thinking that he's GonNa get away with it so. I'll tell you the story. So the other night I grabbed his phone and I I usually do that. So I, grabbed it phone because I wanted to look at it, and then that's when I realized that he changed his password. So the whole time that we've been together and I like look at his phone and stop and it's not a problem and then he changes his talks where just randomly. So I. I say, Hey, why did you change your? Password is there something on your phone that you don't want me to see? And as usual, he calls me ridiculous and that's crazy fight. So it's like back and forth back and forth you know you don't you don't trust me this and that's like I'm upset he slept on the couch at night. The next night we ended up making right so. He like. made me feel better about it and he gave me the new Catholic for phone. Within, the ninety got back from driving Uber eats. And he passed out as soon as he got home he was so tired and I was bored. So I grabbed phone as I do. And you know I start looking around. And then all of a sudden I go into pictures. And I could not believe what I saw on his camera roll their. Photo after photo of this one naked woman. Over and over the same woman naked woman and it's not like it's a professional picture or something Caesar Selfie. These are pictures that we're taken by the woman and like he's he has these pictures in his camera roll and I didn't find like check their email. So like you probably like deleted things you know so I wouldn't be able to see it. But how do you get pictures like that, right? So I know that I didn't find those tax or any other evidence, but she has these nasty picks and it's all the same girl. We got to see these pictures I don't. I don't understand all. Nude sell fees. Explain. Away. Events like up front front of it's like you shouldn't have those pictures on his phone. We shouldn't have saved them. Did you happen to check his instagram lick messages or facebook messages? I couldn't find anything like I. looked at his Yams I looked it. I looked like sex messages and so unless he's like. Really. Sharp. You know what I mean like let me get rid of all the things but pictures I think would be hard to get rid of somebody that you're like you know fool west so I don't know I. I never said anything to him because. I said, you know what? I'm not. I'm not going to like put myself in the position where all I'm GonNa get just a bunch of is because that's what's going to happen. That's what happened. You know the night that he changed his password it's like deflecting deflecting, and so I didn't say anything about it and I've been holding an inside. So this is why I, wanted to do this with you guys because then he won't have any wiggle room and we're gonNA catch him in the Lai and on need to catch him in the Lai which. I wanted to be war of the roses. What does he do for a living because I I do have an idea what does he do for a living? Drives Offer Uber. Okay because I was going to say if he's in the entertainment business for example as I am I have lots of pictures like that people send me that I have saved. I don't know who some of these people are, but I save them I. Have Naked Men and women that I save just because they're beautiful. d'hermes beautiful amazing. Mesagges stumble upon some right now a little bit ago while. I thought well, these are neat. Feat pictures on my phone that I know that my wife would scroll. She'd be like what the hell a lot of them are feet. Right, they're very hard to explain but because she knows about the at unfold foot page, she knows why there's weird feet not weird feet they're beautiful. I don't put weird and. Like healthy. I was trying to think what would be an excuse for him to have. A non outside of him seeing this garage side of the obvious. Why would have naked pictures of a woman on his phone trying to think of an innocent legitimate excuse and I can't think of what he's an artist or sculptor. No I can nights I can only think of one and that is if for some reason he shares what are those family cloud storage is with Percy his brother and his brother's girlfriend. Stretch. Passmore thing too. But then the thing he's got going to get on the naked pictures a be. Changed the password so that's that's the thing too. So he's got two strikes against Cooper if he deleted all of. The message maybe there was tax to or facebook or. Instagram or something like that if he deleted those. Like you would think, you'd be smart enough to at least put the photos in like a hidden folder or something. Unless automatic shape, he knew you were going through his phone. Which makes you think that could be innocent unless he did. So did it on purpose to like? Find All. We'll see who he sends the flowers to Andrea. Okay. Are you ready to this you ready? I Yeah I'd rather now. And what is your boyfriend's name? Derek Derek the one they call Derek. We will call him. Kyle you ready. I'm prepared. All right. We will get him on the phone. So we send the flowers to next which Jane Rich? In the middle of road says you've got Andrea and Derek boyfriend girlfriend for five years living together too long story short there's naked pictures at his phone at the same girl there nude selfies he changes password a little bit ago. They got a huge fight. He slept on the Sofa they made up and then he gave the password but she found these naked pictures and she's pissed she wants to catch him cold blooded Bam. That's it. Are you ready? Okay Hi Is Derek their. Dirk perfect, Height Eric My name's Aurora with the new company were called Jennifer Flowers You've been chosen to be one of our micro influencers and Derek Subaru exciting because you get to send our most romantic roses to whoever you want and it's totally free. All we ask is that you know you throw a little shoutout on social media. All right I'm not interested I. Appreciate you have someone special in your life. This is like an easy way to surprise because like I said, it is super romantic dozen red roses and you don't have to pay for them like I'm not GonNa ask you for credit card information or anything like that. So you get to look like the man Derek and then you don't really have to do much for it. Well it's always a catch things like free drive your surveys, something like that like what? Like it's always a catch I mean there is a slight catch, but it's not really like a survey or anything like that. I. Am innocent the roses out with a nice little card and you gotTa, tell me what you want to put on there but you can get fun flirty sexy on there and that's really all I need to get him sent out. Often do is put something on the car. We and then of course, you know we ask that you put us on social media but we're not gonNA come find you if you don't. All right. Well, I I got something outfit on the connick Guy Something. Like I said, you know people I've really heard it also don't be shy. This is really your chance to just personalise it to whoever you want to send him two and a have that card ready. So we can start with the message ready. Jar Yeah let's let's start with the message. Yeah. We can do that don't judge new and I, WANNA put on their you're my spicy little Mama. I WANNA bust pin. Yada. Love it okay. Here my spicy little Mama and I wanNA bust that Pinata. Okay. Do you want like a love Derek? Sanitation. From Daddy okay. And then who am I addressing this to? Okay. Got a question for you can spread this offer out for like a few different ladies Sir went on we could do like but it would be like a half. Okay. Okay. Okay. see. Jasmine's of. SEMANTICS cintas Samantha Ariana. Shoot shot. Okay and you want the same message on both of their cards. Yep. Exact, same one. What are you doing? Derek. Hello Derek what are you doing? Right. Yeah, it's Andrea. Okay. What what are you doing? What am I doing? What are you doing? How you on the phone call right now. On the radio right now fool. Wow. Wow, you know everybody here. So that's cool. And I suppose you probably gave them a call because you thought I was cheating on your right probably with my phone again like you always do. That thing Tim what you bounce. I've been telling. The same lady naked in your phone like China pictures. A. Bunch of Selfie. A bunch of Soviet, a bunch of pictures, right? That's nobody I pulled him off a damn porn site. I saved them in my phone to teach you a lesson to stop going through my phone and stop thinking of Chino you all the time. I don't believe that. No, you did not. No you did not. Yes I did you got my phone whenever you want to and you start going through it and you read all my Texas my Em's, and every time you expect to find some like you find me cheating on you as not healthy may like it. It's not it's not way. So you knew you knew you knew, did you know you're on the radio? So he made up all those names. That's like like I was totally believing he sent it. All these girls doesn't just wondering if he's like weasling his way out of it right now. Now I knew something was happening because you don't get nothing for free in this world. That's that's for damn sure and it's just all of a sudden. We're talking about me sending something to you know some somebody that I like or or trip come on man no no I knew that was her she had to be behind her somehow I knew it. Okay. So you're now seeing all those girls. No I feel like you're doing a really bad job of reassuring you're. Not Messing around that's. A. Really, good way but it's like it's so essentially he's innocent but he's like Oh What he's doing a really. Still Mad at you you're you're trying to teach her a lesson, but her seen that doesn't how does that make her trust you? It doesn't make her feel good. That's that's the issue idea lack of trust like she doesn't trust me. But the thing is I gave her my my code to my phone like you need to do more than that. She can go to my phone at any given moment need time. But that doesn't mean you should be doing to look for me cheating on you. Why don't you give your linked to the website that you pulled those pictures from? So she can verify from a porn site. we we can go through it together can show her exactly where. It to us to. Be totally sure here. Whatever ever do that to like intentionally hurt me especially because you've been inappropriate before it's not like I'm just pulling out of thin air and you've never cheated when we when we Started dating when we first started dating, you were like texting other girls and you being secretive and like it was like this. Thing and I couldn't get a straight answer out of you I. Already I'm sensitive about those things anyway. So we've been living together for two years and then all of a sudden you change your passcode you know. So what's the? What's the reason for doing that? All of a sudden you know I'm thinking that there's something shady especially because I don't think there's anything wrong with me looking in your phone, you can look at my phone whenever you want you have my code and. Anything. Wrong. We're we're fires, right. So if you want me to feel like comfortable and safe, I don't understand the reason why we should be sharing everything we do live together Josh she she's bringing up she's bringing up the past when we first started talking that is old news old news ancient history is like why you keep bringing that back up if we can't get past this, then I don't think we're GonNa make you been together five years if it's when you first started I, believe I read somewhere that when you start dating someone anyone who get married believe there's a fifteen year window. For What for Mistakes Oh Fidelity. I believe ever that I think it was Oprah got grave bills. Came together for. Just, for the Guy I, think there's zero tolerance Louis see that article. was ship the parents. Guide. WanNa make this work. You have to really work on building that trust backup. If I had done that to you if I had fooled around at the beginning and you felt like all filter and stuff. You might feel if you love me, you might feel like you want to make sure you know that you felt safe and so I just and it doesn't really have you call me ridiculous whenever I feel something and I'm worried because I I care about you I. Love You. So there you have it. You guys got to communicate more yet talked talk it out i. mean it sounds just like what Kyle said. So thank you both go over this Derek. Thank you Andrea thank you going on the air. I got not a problem. Thank you so much for having this man. I know all jacked up but you know I love her. So we're GONNA. Work this out by all right. Thank you help. That's more the roses Jane Rich. You've worked so hard for all the things. The. Salary the status in the success. With that image, there's a drink. One wide want to loosen up wanted to take the edge off. How do you know what a drink is more than just drink? We get it. We can help Karen's grandview program has been helping accomplish people just like you regain their lives. 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Marty Appel 1-26-20

CATS Roundtable

06:01 min | 1 year ago

Marty Appel 1-26-20

"Good Morning New York. This is the catch roundtable. John Katzman Titas here. Well the good news is we have to haul all of famous from the Yankees in the hall of fame. Mariana Rivera got complete amount of votes from everybody. Derek Derek. Gina was one short. Would us this morning. Is Monty Pal. Who is a historian? And of the Yankees. And the the audio zillion years morning. Marty how are you to send him morning John. Good morning to you last time we spoke you named all the nineteen sixty fifty one yankees for me and I knew those were nine lucky guesses but you add it all right I I was. I love the Yankees. I boxed oxygen. I watched every game when I was growing up. The people say to me. How come you love the Yankees mets? Well there was no mess when I was going up right now tell me Mariana. Rivera well-deserved unanimous vote. Everybody and Derek Eric. Zito was one short of unanimous. Did that we'll never know because they do have the option of remaining anonymous I never thought jeeter. We'd be unanimous because whereas Maryono was unquestionably the best at what he did the best closer in baseball history. You couldn't say jeeter was the greatest shortstop in baseball history. There are other contenders. So I thought there'd be some people who left them off the fact that it was only one knucklehead made it a bigger story but you know what he's in the hall of fame Like the second. Highest percentage vote total so so God bless him. He belongs happy. Happy Week for Yankee fans. How many people get unanimous votes? Only Mary Bono. He was the first ever I. It's never and there were people who left off Willie mays and Joe Dimaggio and Mickey Mantle didn't vote for them and in Derek does that I mean one short short of unanimous that to be the second best ever. Yeah it is a sort of tied with Ken Griffey Junior. But you know it's another era John. When when voting started it was nineteen thirty six so for a long time they had a lot of players to catch up with who had played in in the nineteenth century in the early part of this of the Twentieth Century But now they're caught up so with the voters have the right to name ten players on their ballots. They're not faced with the real old timers anymore. They're all contemporary. And it's a little easier to get high totals well as a lifelong Yankee Fan. I am proud of both of them and God bless America and God bless the Yankees One another gossiped. You give us some things going on. Well I wanted to say one other thing about Geeder and God bless is not a bad thing to say here during his twenty year career. A lot was going on with baseball. Which we've come to known steroid era and Derek? JETER was just such a credit into the game and the Yankee uniform and everything about baseball that we love he was the breath of fresh air. Who played the game clean and ride and true do so in a way? He was a savior for the game. Much as babe. Ruth was one hundred years ago after the black sox scandal and now here comes. It's jeeter getting elected to the hall of fame in the week after we go through the the astro gates scandal so to speak with signs stealing and punishments so once again Derek just emerges does the right man at the right time to make us all feel good about baseball now. Now things happening around town. Have the mets been sold yet has deal closed. It's going to be a few years before new ownership slides in. I'm Steve Cohen's going to become a face of the mets and the principal owner Whether it changes the way the mets do business and spend money like the Yankees do and competely compete like New York fans. Hope they do remains to be seen. Meantime they've we just changed managers and we'll see what the New Year Brings Mahdi. I would've bought let me play center field. That was the catch Yup Yup and they go along with it. Do the mets fans loss. The cheating scandal going on. Tell us about it. Well in a way. It's kind of almost humorous because it involves high tech video equipment stealing signs and then the lowest imaginable imaginable equipment. A metal and garbage can that they bang with the bat signal to the hitter. What kind of pitches coming so? It's kind of ludicrous in that sense and you know what someday the technology will catch up to the rules and baseball will have to say you know what The science feeling. Oh US too easy. And the pitchers and the catchers are going to have to come up with another means of communicating. What the pitch is going to be so I think think inevitably? That's going to emerge but for now this turned out to be a very big deal that cost a number of people their jobs and to some passionate Ashaninka people should cost the world championship trophies to The Astros and the Red Sox well Matia Pal. Thank you so much for calling in this Sunday morning and and thank you for everything you did. For New York's favor team always a pleasure. Thanks John this is the cash roundtable. Be Right back.

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Mindset Shift at 40 to Start Real Estate Investing with Derek Tellier

Real Estate Rookie

1:06:15 hr | 10 months ago

Mindset Shift at 40 to Start Real Estate Investing with Derek Tellier

"This is real estate. Rookie show number twenty six. I still struggle every single day wake up forty something years worth of mindset that I need to get past and you can tell yourself that you're gonNA turn that off and you're going to change it doesn't happen overnight. It's like anything else. You've got to keep repeating it and practicing it. My name is care and I am here with my beautiful co host believe Bay may He wasn't that Nice? Really Nice. I was like Oh, my god I wonder what she's GonNa tear me up on now. Actually I just realized that we haven't caught up our listeners personal life. So let's talk about your real estate investing where you at what are you doing? Are you dating these days you talk about personnel who? Are. Investing. So I actually am closing on a refinance this week, it is up portfolio so to properties. And I am pretty excited about that. Cool. Have a a single family under contract that has like a garage slash barnes slash shop that has a one bedroom apartment that needs to be attached to it. So a close on the end of September and what did that cost seven thousand dollars is What are you paying for properties? Nowadays One, hundred, twenty, two, thousand. So expensive for me. I really excited for it, and then I am trying to buy a campground. Oh, fancy you I know it's like exciting by also nerve wracking. Yeah absolutely. Well, I said personal life because I feel like do we have personal life is real investors aside from our family it's. Probably. That is a personal anyways. So on my end, we have I actually have a flip going on with one of our interviewees that we did in the past. Can you guess who it is? I've seen it on instagram. So I already know it is RV day. Dean off the top of your head what rookie episode they were on. I can't remember but I know that we connected after the show they live in. Nashville I love their model. We went out and looked at property we're doing when together we're actually doing staging today pictures tomorrow and it will be on the market. I. Believe Wednesday. It's beautiful. It's a beautiful house on three acres fifteen minutes, downtown Nashville it's a great area I'm. Super excited to see and David, Harvey are a great team. They work really really really hard. They were on episode nine hundred and that's how good my googling fingers are. So if you want to find out some information about that bigger pockets, dot com forward slash rookie nineteen but I loved how you just pitch straight there your your deal sovereign goes in buys it. Doesn't. Know. What's really interesting is the way they're doing it. So we actually had their mentor on our podcast as well. Ryan Dossey. So Ryan dossier actually teaches them what they do. It's all full circle. It's going to be great but that's not what we're talking about today. Today we have a great great show I'm really excited because we have. Derek Derek, is talking about short term rentals in the SMOKIES AIRBNB. How he's finding deals he has a full time W. Two job and this is wild. He has no schedule of how he runs his days. He says he runs his days the way he runs his Harley. Like you stole it I love it. Yeah. He gave a lot of great tips about private lending meet up switch. Everyone knows that I love talking about that and networking. But did you mention that he had what? He called a midlife crisis in his forties and completely shifted his mindset to become a real estate investor? He said that it will be right in the beginning here how his parents actually invested but he just completely. Forgot about it until his friend kind of brought him back to that, and he started working out getting healthier and actually went through a divorce to and made all these changes in his life, and now is just this very successful real estate investor who's done a couple of deals in the past year. Yeah absolutely. But before we bring him out, let's hear a little bit from our show sponsors. This week, our show is partly sponsored by better help. This is a website that you can go on and get matched with great therapeutic therapist. What they will do is they will help you with a range of different things as investors. We all love personal development in what's better than having a therapist to help with that. I want to start living a happier life today. So as our listeners, you guys can get ten percent off your first month by visiting better help dot com slash rookie you guys can join over one million people that are taking charge of their mental health today. Again, that's better. Help H. E. L. P. dot com slash rookie. Okay Derek. Thank you so much for coming on today. Can you start off with telling everyone a little bit about yourself give us a little background. Sure. Let me give you the condensed version as I as I can just real quick W. Two guy I've been w guy my whole life and got introduced to real estate a few years ago and just had to have a real complete mindset shift I. You know my story actually begins back in real estate in nineteen seventy nine when my parents bought a five family apartment. House now, I was just a kid so but that was my first introduction real estate nightline totally forgot about that like thirty seven years later, I, have friends telling me about real estate. They've got a couple of cabins up in the smokey in there like man, you need to buy one of these and I was just I was a w to God, I had a job I. didn't I couldn't wrap my head around it. I couldn't comprehend in my forties and I just can't comprehend what they're talking about with this real estate. So I kind of blew it off can working my job and they'd come into town hey, come hang out and I'm like man I gotta work. So they'd be like you gotta get out of that job. So finally it started with tree real estate I just I was at a point in my life where I wasn't I wasn't real happy I wasn't happy with myself physically so I decided I guess you could call it a mid life crisis I started eating healthier at lost some weight started exercising. lost. Some weight and it's an amazing thing happens when you're when you get physically healthier, your mind gets so much clearer and you see things. So differently in that really happened for me. So I started talking to him more about real estate and then the first big trigger was I went on a weekend riding trip with a buddy of mine and we hit about five states seven, hundred, fifty miles in three days and I of had this epiphany that I wanna be able to do this more I. Want to be able to just get up one day and go for a ride do whatever I want to do how am I going to get there and my mind went into all kinds of please I was gonNA, start a business to do all this different stuff but reached out to this buddy of mine a whoop. It started me down this path and I said, all right man I'm ready for a change what I need to do, and he says download audible and I'm not real technical from. That sense of it. So I'm like what so how does that work? So he literally explained to me how to download audible and he says listen to rich Dad Poor Dad. So I'm like, okay. In everybody's ever listened to a podcast in real estate, not listen to that book and you're like, Oh my God, you picture that when you're young and you gotta learn young when you're in your forties and you hearing that for the first time, it's like Oh my God what I've been doing so Forward, decided I wanted to make some changes. So started down this path I just consumed everything audio books a lot of mindset stop for myself to get my head wrapped around where I was in. You know in life at that point listen to literally every single bigger pockets podcast I started with number one and literally all I did was listening to podcasts constantly running. I'd be at the gym driving turned off music i. Was Consuming Knowledge Education so get through that he got me into running same guy I started running half marathons ran a full marathon two, thousand eighteen. That's about the time this mindshift started and then I decided I really needed to change my life I really wasn't happy in my life and my personal life and a different dynamic but similar story too to what you guys had a few weeks ago with Sarah rate with a brandenburger. I decided I. needed to I couldn't stay in the marriage I was in. So I literally my next step was that I I literally sided. I. Was going to get a divorce and decided I was changing my entire life and it was like dislike huge thing and I wasn't as creative as she was trying to figure out. How to get into a deal about point I used it as well. Now is my reason I can I can just consume knowledge I started networking I started going to meet ups I started going to conferences just anything I could friends of some guy said, get your real estate license. I got my real estate licence store working doing all this I went to a couple of meet UPS started on bigger pockets, and at the third one I went to I told somebody well, if they don't keep this thing Goin' then. I'll start a meet up. Well, the next month they didn't do one. So I started the media. That was late October of eight October of eighteen I had my first meet ups. I've been posting a meet up for the last year and a half almost long have you been doing this research. It when you started that meet up how long before that were you learning about real estate and consuming all this knowledge really honestly consuming probably about six months. Not, not a long time but just dug in and they're did you say what? Your W. Two job was you said you had done it for a long time. Yeah. I've been working Harley Davidson Industry I I. Actually I'm in the service director over a small group Harley Davidson dealerships local to where I am in I'm in East Tennessee south of Knoxville near the smoky mountains. So hanging, you're right next door to me I need to come. because. I lived in Nashville I live in New York for. Years all my all my rental properties are in. Antioch. All of you might own my old house I don't know that. But. But yeah. So did the meat up saying At, going through used going through that divorce as the reason why I couldn't. Purchase real estate. Now that's been proven otherwise obviously, I stayed diligent on my education. So fast forward to two thousand and nineteen literally my legal stuff got finalized on April twenty-sixth on April twenty eighth a listing hit. The market was a Sunday night that was just jumped out at me. I look at the listings. Every single day just jumped out at me was a it was under one hundred, thousand dollars in the city I live in, which is rare in and of itself great location literally two tenths of a mile from my full time job. I went and saw it the next day I put an offer in that night. My offer got accepted the next morning because it had the fewest contingencies on a cash offer offer them less than what they were asking. So this is not two days out of three days out of my divorce I've got my first property under contract and ended up negotiating them down a little bit further during inspections and got through that one. Bought another house to move into that house into a rental, and then then this year at the beginning this year the next big might the next big shift was finding a new career path I really needed to change things up. I've been working all this time making somebody else wealthy you. It's time to start doing something for myself. So a good friend of mine is avery Karl who was on, you know the Og podcast three, sixty four. From rentals her husband Luke. Is the friend of mine that I've known for several years that got me into all this and got. So I've known them forever. Well, avery I had talked about me. For her we know after I got my license, but it hasn't really panned out. So finally you this year I said, okay, this is ridiculous. Areas is literally killing it in the short term rental market business. So I went and met with her and I basically told her it was time for me to come and work with her and she said okay. So at this was march of this year so. First weekend working with her she gives me seven leads now to this point I've had my license for about almost a year and a half I'd closed on four transactions. Two of them were my own. So I only actually had to retail transactions as an agent on work fulltime job. I go to work with her she gives me seven leads since March I've closed on nine I have six more under contract. Dan Rowan all through Cova into exactly exactly I mean. I mean, it's been such a life changing last few months even that I now have so much income coming in from that from a pure income standpoint, I don't need. To. But from a lending standpoint, it really helps to have that W two. So I'm I'm working with that. I'm working with the company I work with to try to find a transition. Hey, Derek. I, can ask a quick question that how have you seen covert affect the market up there in the smokeys I know a lot of people have questions right now about short term rentals in in how it's affecting. When, when Cova I kinda got kicked out there in March things really dropped off we were working with tons of buyers and that's primarily what we do. Every team has called the short-term shop and we primarily help investors purchase are short term rental. I'm mostly in the SMOKIES, but she works out on the in Panama beach area as well, and in March we saw. Big Drop off everybody got cold seat. So I joined your team and I literally had seven leads only one person actually wanted to do anything everybody got scared. We had a definitely a slowdown through March and April may I everything open back up and everybody kind of realized that it really wasn't going to have an impact I saw the cabin owners that I knew. So a little bit of drop off in April but you know really by the end April beginning of May, they were booked solid again, and one of the things I was able to do through all this was I finally got myself a cab and I had been looking for a year. So I purchased my first Airbnb a closed on it on May Nineteenth I had my first guests check in on May twenty second night two nights vacant since that time. That really. I've already gotten back fifty percent of the money I put into that kerchiefs in like two and a half months. What was the purchase price for that for that covered this is this is not normal for today's market I had been looking for a long time but I found an anomaly I ended up buying it for one hundred and forty, five, thousand, which you can find anything. Like that right now, there I could put that house on the market right now for probably two, hundred, twenty five and I would have multiple offers in few hours. Is it because the short term rentals? So strong or is it or is it? Yeah? Is that what it is? Yeah it's all about the people are realizing the market has appreciated in some cases almost one hundred sent out here just in the last three years because. People are realizing how easy it is to manage these things and a lot of the current owners are true vacation home owners, and they don't understand that you can self manage this thing and make a lot more money to get these cabin rental companies out here that charge a forty percent management. Wow and and they're not getting near the reservations because the only way you book through them as if you Google and find bear website. Oh everybody goes on AIRBNB. Now it's nobody takes a taxi anymore right you get on Uber while you're being the same way. So all these cabin owners don't don't realize how much money you can make, but the market has pushed it up. People are now paying so much more than they think cabins worth because I realized that can make so much more money. I want to dig into the short term, rental sear, managing it yourself. What does it look like? What's your system set up? What are you using AIRBNB? Do you have your own cleaner that you hire or using a cleaning company? Would you do for maintenance? Can you kind of break down your systems for? So definitely using AIRBNB? I am listed on both sides. There are some people that will argue that it's better to use one or the other and just really dive into it but I'm using both and the real benefit of of the what's new out. There is a lot of technology out there. There's a lot of softwares that you can use to integrate everything. So my calendars between AIRBNB and VR B. O. A sync up together I use a pricing software. So I go put some baselines and the pricing software identifies what the optimal price for my cabin is on any particular night. So one night my cabin might be one, hundred and nine and the next night it might be one sixty, it's not a set. Rates optimizing everything so that those two softwares helped to integrate everything to keep it easy the cleaner. Yes. You go out and you find your own cleaner I am using a my cabin is small six, hundred square foot to honeymoon cabin. So I found a small one person one woman cleaner she has about a dozen or so cabinet that she takes care of and my cabinet is near the ones she already does. So I got connected with her and she you know I just sent her my calendar I tell her when when the you know when you're checking in checking out, she gets in there knocks out keeps a clean and really i. mean I live close by so occasionally go. Out there to take your little things but I don't have to I mean most of our clients are from hundreds or thousands of miles away and they're all self managing from home. Derek, me ask you a quick question about that. So I'm from Tennessee and I know the word on the street about you know up in the cabins up in the smokies I know that it's a knit market. It's it's very it's very like the good deals go to the people that already live there or that are already investing there. Okay. So I'm going to I'm going to spill all the secrets because like I said, I live down the road and I know it's not all painted roses. So let's talk. About that a little bit. How could someone get a good deal out there? That's not going to already your friends and family and the locals in the area like you said, you got a really good deal and you yourself said, hey, you know this isn't regular and I know that like I said, you know my buddy diego invest out there and he's like you know the first one is really hard to get but now we have twenty but it's because now everyone knows us there. So we're part of this click or whatever it is. Right. So how can I? You know as a listener said Hey. I. Want to invest in Airbnb out in the SMOKIES. Can I get on? Let's say Derek's Well it's it's really easy for us. All you gotta do is reach out because you know we do get some occasional. What they used to call pocket listings, you really can't do that anymore the National Association realtors is kind of put A. Regulation on that to make sure that we're public marketing. So it sellers can get the most out of their deal, but I'm to backtrack on Mine I. Say I got a great deal mine was on the MLS everybody out there had the same access that I had to mine I jumped in on it and like everything else it's relationships I talked to that list stage and I gave her my story and buying it for myself was helpful in that you took action. You didn't sit down and wait for somebody to say, Hey, here's the deal because that's not going to happen. You took action you made the relationship you followed up even offered less than listing and you still got I. think that's. Great Well on the Cabinet I did not offer less than the thing on the cabin. I. Got the cabin I'd paid over list that well she they had it listed at one thirty nine I went in and offered one forty, five with no closing cost but they had other offers they accepted mine I think because maybe maybe she liked me and put some influence on the side of the pick mine or or had to do with the fact that I was on average team. So when any agent from avery steam puts an offer, we have a reputation that we close so that helps. So when you've got a list agent and somebody from her team myself or one of the other ladies team. Those lists agency Our Name, they're going to say, I know this agent and they're gonNA close their Lemme Lemme Lemme but in right there, let's pivot a little and talk about how important that good realtor agent is. Because of what you just said, you guys have a history of closing for our listeners that maybe have one property or maybe don't have any in our looking how important is it to get a realtor? That's Going to close the deal is huge. It's huge. You know first of all, it's the eighty twenty rule, right? Twenty percent of the realtors are doing eighty percent of the business. So if that's the case, those twenty percent that are doing all the business, all the other agents out there no, that person and they know that person knows what they're doing and they know that person is going to help make sure their client knows. What they're doing, they're going to help navigate. They're going to find a solution you know in my full time job I was a problem solver. That's what I do. I started out in the motorcycle business as mechanic I was I was fixing bikes so I solve problems. So I've had a couple of transactions that were a lot of other agents would have walked away from a lot of would have walked away from and. I said, no, we're going to find a way to get through this and I've closed deals that other people could close because I wasn't going to give up I was gonNA find a way to make this work for everybody involved keep everybody calm through the process and let's figure out what works. So that is huge having an Asian got that reputation for making it work your deals are going to get accepted over somebody else's. Derek I'm a huge believer in networking and going to meet up Sinn Zoom calls and all of that, and it seems like you have done a lot of that and you've got onto every team. You have all these people you figured out how to get these deals. Can you talk a little bit about how that has benefited you and what you can kind of recommend to our listeners as? To how they can get involved in what the best way for them to network with other people. Yeah. It's it's absolutely huge part of why I've gotten to where I'm at you have to get off their network you have to meet people for a number reasons, one relationships because that's how you find deals. That's how you find contractors that you find people who are going to be there to help. You to mentor, you is going out there and engaging with other people. So that's gigantic. You know Egypt got to get out there and do it get yourself I an introver- I I am much more comfortable sitting at my house you know chatting on text or on computer by email it was I had to get outside of my comfort zone, start getting up and speaking and talking to people. And but it's made it every bit of difference I get. It's taken some time but I mean I'm two years into this now and I'm starting to really see some huge benefits of people that are coming back to me offering me deals I've built some relationship with some wholesalers. So I'm getting some deals deal flow that way you've got to get out there and interact and talk to people and. It's it's amazing. The world that opens up when you start actually engaging everybody else around you. What would you tell an introvert that's listening to the show that maybe is starting to put all the pieces together but has a little bit of that fear of actually reaching out in creating relationships or or is still an insurer, but just wants to fake it I mean what would you tell that person go to go to meet up you know the meet up that I host is purely networking. It's it's purely about people gathering in room and Chitchatting I also go to the local Ria I go to a couple of other meet ups where they have guest speakers get out and go to something my meet ups a free you know if your local in my area comfortable meet up if. Wherever, you're at. There's meet ups out there go to one that's free and just pick somebody out of the room and go talk to them. That's it I mean you don't have to start engaging every single person room start with one person look one person in the I go out and have a conversation ask them what they're doing they may be. A newbie to two of you might be completely new to this and just thinking about it. But then you'll start talking and feeding off each other star with one person lead that expand and just keep talking to everybody. You can tell everybody that you're wanting to get into this. You'd be surprised how many people are doing it and don't talk about it. I really liked that tip of just starting with one person because it can be overwhelming going to these meet ups and not knowing anyone anyone. especially if they're at a bar or restaurant and you walk in, you don't even know what group of people is. The Real Estate Group. So I, think that's a great tip. In one thing I've done to is I've. Found people online neither the bigger pockets forums or instagram better going to the same meet up and I connect with them first to get to know about a little bit and I've done this for conferences too. So that I at least have one face that that I know to look for when I get there and start there. But you're right once you get talking about real estate at these meet UPS. It's like you. You've spent so much time talking to different people and they'll come up to you and once you get going, it's hard to stop in an already three hours have gone by. I tell whenever we go to a new location in new restaurant I tell the wait staff. I'm like look this is not like a formal dinner. People aren't going to be sitting at tables and ordering you have to stick your nose in there and ask them what they want. What they want to drink said we are real estate investors. So you put us in a room together. We are all going to talk to each other we will starve. We will die of thirst because we're talking about what have going on the good and the bad we don't care we have. Chips. Just bring the salsa look just bring. It will pay for it because. Order. Stick your nose in there and make order because I. Need I need the wait staff to make money 'cause that sure important for the relationship. But it's like if you're going to be a passive waiter, they're not gonNA order you gotta stick yourself in there and go do it. One of the first real might have been the first or second real estate meet ups I went to I went with my friend John and like it was so exciting like I was having so much fun and he came up to me like in the middle and handed me a glass of water and afterwards I was like Oh my God that was the nicest thing you could have done for me. I was like I didn't even realize how dehydrated I was from talking so much and I was having so much fun. That I didn't even think about it. So it was like, thank you so much. But you're right. You're just keep going that you're not gonNA stop to to eat or drink I. Tell people when I post on my from meet UPS. I said this is networking. You're going to get out of it what you put into it. Yeah. Let's move on to your rookie deal does some really great advice he gave Rolin about meet up and I hope everyone is putting themselves out there to do these meet ups whether their virtual or In person I know a couple of groups have started to go back to in person the one buffalo had a meet up last week where it was at a park setting. But let's talk about your rookie deal which one is this. So this is the very first, my first investment property. This is the one that I got off the MLS right after everything was finalized with my personal life. So again, it was listed it was just kind of the perfect thing I'm a believer and you put yourself in the right position. Things fall into place. So everything fell into place on this one. It was literally less than two tenths of a mile from where I work. So going to see the next day was easy. So I it would it hit the MLS on Sunday night I went from showing walk through there was other investors looking at this house was rundown it was in an estate it had been vacant for about a year there had been squatters in it. There was apparently a drug house at some point I, mean it was had been raided. In rough shape, but it was a nineteen eighty little. Ranch House with a three car detached garage, which is one of the key things that I thought was huge for the area right close to the city within city limits but yet private because of the isolated weird location. So I went in and I went to the list agent and I offered they had it listed at ninety five, five I think I offered ninety but I basically had no contingencies on it. I asked for I think seven day inspection contingency no finance continuously no appraisal contingency nothing else and they accepted my offer on Tuesday and she told me it was because they had the fewest contingencies so then I brought a couple of investors I knew out there I brought uninspected I knew out there we look through the house and we found some more issue's water leaks some water damage. So I, started debate in myself you know I gotta get him to come down I. had my other investors saying man, this place needs a lot of work you need to get him down to at least eighty five somewhere. In that range and then another buddy of mind says, Heke got under contract offer him seventy you know or seventy five or whatever. So I came back and I offered him seventy. I'm under contract I can't lose it worse. They can do is say no and I buy it at ninety I offered him seventy they immediately came back at eighty one which I was shocked by and I immediately responded with All go to seventy five, which hindsight I thought about I should have just try to hold seventy I play store on it, but came right up to seventy five they tried to get me to come up to seventy eight I said, no, I'm holding in seventy five and they went ahead and went forward. So I ended up getting a fifteen thousand dollar discount after I bought it had bought this thing with. Private money are used a private lender to actually fund the purchase in my rehab budget. Of course, this is my first deal. So we all know that we have budget is like half of what you're actually gonNA spend because I don't know you know exactly how to control myself on this I had a good friend of mine was a contractor that stepped in to kind of manage the project for. Me It took a lot longer than planned but we spent about five months working on it. I refinanced. It got a at seventy five. I ended up putting close to I. Think I put about sixty three into it so I was up there. I. Had the my private lender back his interest plus his money got it appraised at one ninety. So I got one forty to five, seventy, five percent loan to. Value out of it, which left me with just the closing costs for the refinance I. got my private lender has money back. I got all of my money back cost me five grand to refinance. It took me about another month to get a renter in there and I listed at eighteen hundred dollars a month, which was a couple hundred dollars over market rent for the area. Everybody told me I was. Crazy for listening at that high and I'm like this house is practically brand new. I said I didn't get to do the garage this house's brand new I'm going to get it I had tons of showings but nobody putting in applications, but it only takes one. So finally the right person came along and here I am getting eighteen hundred dollars a month for that place and my mortgage payments like eight seventy. During a job that is greg. How long did you wait before that perfect applicant? Only. They were the first person that actually put in an application. I probably had about fifty showings but I think everybody was reluctant because of the price they were actually the first ones to actually put an application but they were a good applicant and I didn't see any reason not to accept them. So I ended up accepting the first applicant that jump in on it but I mean even after accounting for all expenses, I'm cash flowing Jimmy. Johnson Milton that thing. I think there's a really important key to this story that you said I don't want everyone to think that this is impossible or that it's hard. But there's a key concept there that we get a lot of or I get a lot of DMZ say, Oh, I'm ready to quit my job and go fulltime real estate, but the reason you were able to. Refinance, and correct me if I'm wrong because I might be wrong. Was Your W to help this up? Is that right? You have a W. Two job so you were able to refinance this and the bank saw that that you have money coming in. So I get the DM all the time fleet I'm ready to quit my job I want to start investing in. Real estate like I'm ready to go all in and I'm like the reason you might hate your job is because you don't have a y for it. Right? I. Cleaned construction sites to get past my first three deals because I showed that I had a job whether I liked it or not was irrelevant but I knew that daily I was working because i. was going to refinance a property and get my money back I and I was going to be able to do a lot of things because that's what the bank likes to see. So can you tell us a little bit about how important it West to keep your job during this process of this amazing. Clearly amazing cookie cutter deal that you did. This is great. Yeah, I mean it was. It was everything because I ended up refinancing it before I had a renter I mean once you get a lease in place, they'll count seventy five percent of that lease towards your income, which will help offset any death income you have but I refinanced it before I had a renter in place. So my w two job was the only reason I could do that I had another I was living in a huge house at that point I it was me and my dog living in twenty, six, Hundred Square Foot House that. I didn't really need that big. So I had that mortgage payment I have refinanced that House that's actually what gave me the cash to be able to have the reserves to do this one was the refinance and the first also so I at this point I had two houses and the only reason I could get that refinance was because I had that W job. Let's talk about that real quick is that you had the reserves so you basically did and no money down deal, but you got your money back but you still had those reserves in place. How much of reserves did you have? Like three to six months well, I didn't go I was a dollar amount I really didn't factor in the months but what happened was it started with My primary residence and I pulled about fifty seven thousand dollars in equity by refinancing my primary residence out. So I paid off some bills I had with that, and then the rest I just sit in the bank and I knew going into this rehab that I was borrowing and thirty five I think it was for my private lender I knew I was going to go over budget so. That's what gave me the comfort to go in there and do some things that you know. Maybe a lot of people wouldn't have done knew I had that money so that refinance started it and then you know getting ready to getting being able to refinance back out and get all that money back out was huge because that gave me the ability to go on and do something else. But yeah, that was the W. The w two is the only reason I was able to do any of that. Interesting. So we're reengineering this whole process. Okay. So we talked about the W two job and how that held up the refinance. Now let's talk about the private money. You're you're I think you said you were new during this time you didn't have any history. So talk to us about the private money and how that all worked out that's a relationship from before real estate, you know first and foremost. You know tell everybody what you're doing when you start getting into this and the situation with this lender was it was just somebody I had known for several years. Me was business owner and and had extra cash and I knew he liked real estate but he didn't own any. He just kind of dabbled around a little bit. He had had some bad experiences actually, but I had known him since I. Lived here. So I had known him for Fourteen Years Fifteen years this point. So when I said he is getting into real estate. I'm getting my license I'm GonNa Start Looking for property to invest in he said to me well, if you ever find something, let me know I'd like to look at maybe doing a deal with you and he was looking for a partnership when I found this deal after I. Got Hundred contracts. I went back to him and I said. So you mentioned you might be willing to lend some money or get involved in that where you serious and he said, yeah, why say well, because I just signed a contract on a deal and I WANNA know if you'll lend me the money to do it this is the importance of those relationships and telling people what you're doing if you. Just put it out there I mean, like you said, this gentleman said Hey I want to do this right I know a lot of people now that I'm in the industry that have a ton of money just sitting and they are itching to get more than five six percent than they're getting in the stock market there like I fully bay. If you can find me ten percent, I will fund any deal. Derek what were the terms on that private money? So he wanted three and a half points and nine percent interest but a guaranteed of six months on that interest meaning that I basically, I had no payments for the six months. Everything was deferred compounding interest. So at the end of the day, I was going to have to pay him you know one big lump sum. Balloon payment about full balloon payment with all the interest know compounding on top of it. So we knew going in this is what I'm borrowing. This is what I'm GonNa Oh, you in six months and actually closed on the refinance like two days beyond the six months is about three days outside but again, he was a friend. So it's not like he came back and said, oh you'll only three more days interests he just did that's fine. Any took the check and and I've done a second deal with him since that. So you know this is building and he gave me a little bit better terms than the second one not significant but a little bit better terms on the second one and I'm closing on that and getting him his money back here in the next week or two. So this is the power of buying cash to Dick. You're getting way better deals by being able to close. Okay. So let me explain that to our listeners. Sometimes I get the question as well as sleeping how do you buy so low right like how everyone's paying market value or above how are you getting these amazing deals and you said to very key things cash and not as many contingencies. So you're able to come in and say, Hey, I'm going to pay cash and people know that that means less hoops to. Jump, through with a bank, if you have a great hard money lender private money, whatever the case may be where you can buy properties cash you're going to get better deals than someone that's just buying the regular route and then those connections like you said in telling people, this is what you're doing. That's all great strategies to undermine properties for under market value with instant. And building relationships telling everybody about it because you might. You might have a conversation with somebody who turns out that their uncle, their brother their cousin has a house that is empty. You've gotta tell everybody what you're doing. You don't know where the lead of the deal is GonNa come from deals come from everywhere not just off the mls not just from wholesalers it they come from every conversation that you have ever. So you've got to be telling everybody about it and then yes, absolutely. Put yourself in a position where you can make it as easy as possible for that seller because that's what in those situations if it's a distress situation, what they want is somebody to make it easy on of make it easy. You'll get the deal. I'm curious to know for your Rehab. Did you use a contractor that was kind of recommended to or was a referral since you've seem to do very well at networking? On the first one again, it was a guy I've known for about ten or fifteen years. But this was my naivety when I went when we went into the deal I said Hey I'm buying this house I want you to you know help me do all this rehab on it. I thought he was a general contractor I just I've known him forever I really did know much about his business he wasn't he was he's a carpenter is a master carpenter, but he's not a general contractor. So I thought that I was coming into this deal with him and I was going to say, okay, here's all this stuff I, WanNa do. Go and like a weekend he sending me phone numbers. Well, here's the plumber to call this guy in line this up, and here's a painter call this guy and I'm like I thought you were going to do all that for me and he's like no man you need to do all that. So I'm like crap I had to go pull my own permits. We put it addition on that House I mean that's one of the reasons we got the we actually built a second bathroom. It was a three one. We made it into a three to put a nice big. Deal I knew absolutely. I didn't bite there. By that. Well I said the deal went way too good. So I'm expecting you know somewhere along lines here really soon to have an absolute disaster because that went too well but yeah so I manage through it I was spending my nights and weekends out there doing a lot of the work myself I had some bad experiences the first plummer I hired was an absolute disaster the second plummer I hired came in and do to did a good job. But when all was said and done, there was a problem with something he dared he refuses to admit was his problems I had to bring a third plummer in. Finally fixed the problem. So yeah, there was definitely some challenges and on the next Rehab I did I went with a different contractor and made a whole series of new mistakes with the second contractor. So I'm still figuring that out on playing that by air contractors. Everybody says, is the hardest part of this business and I'm still only a few deals in I'm still very much trying to work through finding that that balance and you. Had said you went over budget on that Rehab for your first deal. Did you have to use your own money then? So yes, some of your reserves to cover that deficiency at a couple of things. I had some reserves leftover when I did that refinance again relationships one of the next things I did I went to a local bank a guy who I had known he was the general manager of the bank's small regional bank. And I said I WANNA, I, WanNa Line of credit. I want I want some kind of line of credit with you and he couldn't do anything just outright. But. I said, well, I've got some cash. What can I do it this if I give you like twenty thousand dollars to put down into some kind of account can you give me like a fifty thousand dollar line of credit? He said I can't go that much he said. But if you put twenty thousand into a CD, I'll give you a thirty five. Thousand Dollar Line of credit. So I gave him twenty grand to put in a CD. Now, I had accessed to thirty five. So I actually used that line of credit as the but the extra that I went over budget on and I really interesting I've never heard that before I've used that I did that on the second one too. So as soon as. Herman's. The terms of that line of credit, the line of credit the CD was a sixteen months CDs he did the line of credit for the same sixty months. It is I think prime plus appoint is what I'm paying on that line of credit. So I mean it's interest only like just a typical line of credit. So really super easy to work with when I wanted advanced on it I just send him an email and he transfers it. From the line of credit into my checking account and you're probably making a little bit of money on the CD to I made a I think I made the CD itself only earned interest for twelve months, but it has to sit there for sixteen I made I think five hundred dollars on it, which is not much but it's five hundred dollars I mean, right? Yeah. Covered it covered the interest for the most part talking about the line. Of Credit I, think that's a great strategy because I use that but I didn't put mine in a CD I just leverage to paid off property that I had. So my goal was to pay off a property, put a line of credit and they just keep reusing over and over and over and that line of credit I wanNA pause real quick because I, know that our listeners wonder how can I use this strategy when it's really important? When you have a line of credit, it's really cool. What you did was you know you put your money and said, Hey, I'm GonNa Leverage Twenty thousand to have access to what did you say fifty thousand thirty five, thirty, five, thousand bucks. So yeah, you were able to leverage twenty thousand to get thirty, five, thousand use that money for what you had to do. Refinance payback get your money back out and made five hundred dollars so you That's great. So you're finding different ways to hack your money to bring you more money. Right? Your money wasn't going to give you five hundred dollars sitting in the bank. We'll put it in a CD, and gave you five hundred bucks and then you were able to still use this as part of the Rehab. Now, let me ask you a question about the contractor that you said. You said, you haven't found a good one yet one of the strategies that I've always and we've talked to many of other people we've interviewed facebook is a great place to find great contractors because they're gonNA. Give you for reviews we had we had. Oh my Gosh I can't remember his name but someone with someone on the show and I'll try to remember before then was telling us that what they do is they end up calling prior jobs. So if I'm the contractor, you're like, Hey, can you bring me three people that you've that you've done work for and that's been a great strategy to find some great contractors as well? Yeah definitely and an s something I've been. I've been guilty of I'm really bad about not reaching out to specific people I got I've heard on several pockets, code, I I picked up the phone and I called fifteen contractors and and I'm not good at doing that I'm good at hey do you use? Okay. Let me try him unless just go. Do it. So I am a I am a ready shoot aim Kinda Guy, I'm just I'm very guilty of riding everything see my pants and so far it's worked out. Okay. But I don't recommend it. You have to have a pretty high threshold for fear if you'RE GONNA go into it that way you buy real estate the way you drive your Harley. Yeah I. Can Imagine? I I do I. I, I've always felt like you know for for good or bad I have a good gut instinct about a lot of stuff when I got into real estate one of the things I would say it's somebody mentioned to me as I might be real estate, but I'm not new to life. So I at coming in a little bit later in life I tried to use my own life experiences Detroit to. Help me through that because most of what we run into is is the same types of situations, just different specifics in the environment. So I use that to leverage that I know what I need to do on a big picture. You know I don't need to know the specifics of the dynamics I kinda know where I need to go and if I point myself in that direct direction then I. Can Get there and then usually I'm lucky enough that I've got other people around me that'll help keep me down that path and I wanNA talk about that. That kind of leads us right into our next segment is this very wanna hear about a key player on your team someone who has helped you through you know all of your purchases and getting into real estate. So call this segment the. MVP The MVP. Let's hear from today's show sponsor real estate investing has the potential to be many things it could be rewarding delivering long-term growth and cash flow. 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Constantly with trying to figure things out and every once in a while I just need to get luke on the phone because he's brutal e is just like I mean he he is not sugarcoat anything and sometimes you really need that you need someone to just push you. So I needed it tremendously the help get me centered and make sure I was going in the right direction constantly. What would be your for someone who's looking for a mentor? F- like this. How would you recommend they find someone comes back to relationships again, going out to the meet ups talking to everybody and with with Luke I never asked him to be my mentor. I never asked it. It just happened organically and I firmly believe that that's the best way it depends on where you're at in life and what your situation are I mean there's lots of paid mentors out there. And, for some people at Works, join a community, there's some good ones out there. Sometimes that's what people need. It depends on the individual if you're an introvert and you just can't get out there and do that then got cash you got a great job. Then then go pay for program. If you're if you don't have the cash and just go start talking everybody in the mentor, ships will happen organically if you allow them to or listen to every single bigger pockets episode. I have thousands of mentors from that standpoint. I mean, every single episode I listened to I pulled a nugget out of somewhere. So I mean and I and I've gotten tons of those websites and I get tons of emails and I mean I pull something from everybody. I'm a believer in. You can learn something from everybody you you meet in life you just gotta listen and find what that thing is. You're there is so much free content out there to to kind of grass from. I want to ask about So you work for avery do you think that has really helped her become a mentor to you and do you recommend that someone who part time job or even a fulltime job goes in works for a real estate investor and kind of help them or do you think? They, do it for free go offer their services depends on his circumstances depends on what the person's looking for. You know I mean I'd love somebody that would follow me around and help take your some of the stuff that I don't that. I'm not good at doing just keeping notes and keeping tabs on things. If you WANNA get involved, you have to figure you bring value find a way to bring value to the person that you WanNa be around you know with Avery Joining her teen as an agent. You know she knew I had the background and experience dwell on it, but it was amazing that even though I didn't necessarily learn anything by joining her team, I have learned so much from her over the years already the knowledge was already there. But even with my own clients and people I knew that I didn't get through. Her my confidence level skyrocketed to where I felt more comfortable talking to them, and I was able to close more deals just because I was being around her and the other agents on her team surround yourself. You're the average of the five people you surround yourself with kind of situation you surround yourself with those people at automatically becomes who you are as well. It so important I agree I can't I can't agree more. It's so important to do that and and it's like you said I feel like most of us have or have this desire to teach other people what we're doing because there's plenty to go around no one is trying to hoard all the deals. No one is there's so many deals that I can't get in and like you said, it's just putting yourself out there telling everyone that you're a real estate investor. And so in telling people, your goals is really important. So from that, thanks so much man let's move onto the next section of the show. We'd like to call this the rookie request line. You can reach US anytime at one, eight, eight, eight, five rookie to leave a voicemail and we might use it on the neck. So you can ask anything you'd like it's real estate related we might put it on the show I. Are you ready? Sure Hi, my name is Zach I'm from Cumberland Maryland. And my question is I meant I'm looking to make my first deal jump into real estate. I WANNA do my family and my fiance was on board at first but now she's leaning more towards single family home making at home side we have three kids five and under. So I understand respective. But I was looking more towards invest, invest, and then create the home home bog and go from there. Tomorrow. Real real question is what better way you got show that I can either. Still trying to get the multifamily and single home or is there a different avenue I should take and getting my first steps into real estate? Thank you I. Appreciate Your Time Well. That's a that's a one because the first step in that comes from you know happy wife Happy Life Right. So we've got right the family happy gotta do what makes sense you got three little kids obviously if you can find a big enough a multifamily a big duplex where you can live on one side, maybe a maybe a house with an accessory dwelling unit where you can have your house and maybe the garage has a. Little apartment over it is a good opportunity and obviously that all depends on your financial situation what kind of income you have you can buy our primary residence with very low down payment loan and then does your debt to income ratio is still qualify to go out and buy another single family or duplex that you can buy strictly as an investment. So lot of individual questions would have to be answered to be able to get specifics so. Kinda hard to house hack with with the wife and three kids though that's a difficult one I know for a lot of people I think I would tell them multifamily as well. I would I would not tell my wife. Hey, this is what we're GONNA do but I would go the numbers maybe a little bit of education as to why think multifamily would be good and then maybe offer to buy the homie big house once the kids are a little older, they probably don't need a huge house right now I know personally myself and my my my wife and my. Kid where's we're living in one of my very first rentals that we upgraded we're living here so that we can take advantage of the refinance. So we're going to take out a huge chunk of a refinance and then Reagan a by our forever home but we're holding back a little bit right now for a bigger better future later because my kids only three like he doesn't he's he doesn't care. So remember the house as not and I want him to remember his forever home when he gets older when he can remember when we can afford a little more. So my personal. Advice would probably be to go the multifamily route for now I don't WanNa say suck it up a little bit but you know what? What's the saying live like? No one else so that later you can live like no one else. So so yeah, the might be what I would do actually. What do you think? Well, you made a great point by saying, show them the numbers so whether it's your husband wife whoever write it down and them how much you'd be saving or how much that extra unit would be paying your mortgage down. So how much extra cash you'll? Actually be saving for that forever home my husband and I. We lived in his grandma's old house for free for many years. I, mean my we lived there until my second was born and then we built our house and if we wouldn't have had, you know done that and built a house right away or bought a house right away. We wouldn't have been able to save for the House that we wanted. So I definitely think it's worth the sacrifice, but it is hard to to get to that mindset because even for me like that second child I'm like, okay, it's happening. Like and I wasn't a dirty started real estate investing to is so it wasn't like I wasn't even into it. So I understand as a mom and a wife of wanting that house sooner rather than later. But once you actually sit down and look at the numbers I think that it's more of a visual and select look at what we can have in five years. If we wait that long, you know the multifamily doesn't have to be anything bad you. Can still live in one unit of beautiful with granite counter tops whatever, and then you run out the other side it doesn't mean you're living in a very basic small apartment. They're huge multi families, and if you have a multifamily that you fix up while you're living a really nice one, you can live really nice in a multifamily and then rented out for top dollar. When you leave because you've literally like you said granted tops, you know the good stuff so. Show the numbers and say, Hey, this will rent for this amount and we're gonNA live really nice while we're here. So yeah, I think. Finding plaques with a unit. That's. What Nice you lived there for a couple of months while you re have the other unit to lower, however you want it while your spouse wants it then move into that unit and then you can either rehab the other one or just rent out as this. That's what I would do. I do regret all the time that we didn't like house heck I mean I guess we lived in paid off house, but the fact that we didn't live in a multifamily or anything like that. In my story is is what not to do I mean when we moved out to to the side of Tennessee, we bought the biggest house so we could afford this was two thousand and four. I. Mean I never should have gotten approved that mortgage but that was two thousand and four when they were just giving things away I had basically a one hundred percent mortgage on this how on that House that I bought and we didn't have money to do. Anything I mean before I started real estate refinance. I had nothing in the bank. We lived a month to month. I didn't have any credit card decks I was smart enough coming up to know that you don't do that. I used my credit cards even then to make me money but we had nothing to show I had no savings I mean if something catastrophic happened three four or five years ago I had nothing to back me up and you know that was. A scary time to come into as you're in your forty. So for anybody younger out there and you're having trouble getting somebody, show them that the what can happen. This is much smarter situation so that when you get you get up into your thirties forties, how much more secure you are, and you have more freedom to do things when your kids are a little bit older I missed out on all that my daughter was nineteen is nineteen years old now and when. She was growing up I was hardly ever there because I was working fifty, five, sixty hours a week cost. So you can if you listen to those stories and don't do that to yourself, do the smart things now Derek Lemme ask you not even to say you have money. It's nice that money to do stuff like that. What about the the weight off your shoulders the the relief of not having to worry if something did happen, you don't have the funds for. To me that is like the biggest mindset is thinking in focusing on that. Yeah that's absolutely I mean that's where I'm at. Now at this point I feel so much better because I know if if something does happen to my daughter, I, you know my parents are you know getting up there I mean if something does happen I know that I'm GonNa position now that I can take care of anything that comes up and that's and that's a really good feeling to have that I did not have for very long time and I, wish I would have figured it out. Sooner. So I could have had it sooner, but you know you can't. You can't go back in time you know the best time to plant trees twenty years ago. Second best time is right now real estate investing the same thing I didn't do it twenty years ago. So I'm just going to do it now and I'm GonNa, do it as quick and as as fast as big as I possibly can right now because I've got a whole lot of time to make up for so I'm trying to. I'm trying to move quickly while still staying within somewhat of a comfort zone, I try to tell people that ask me about real estate when they're like, are you scared that you know toilets going to break or the two o'clock in the morning caller all this and I'm like well, look if your systems in place you're going to be fine. Those calls are going to happen I promise. But do you want those calls to be going to you or to someone else in that? Do you want to own the property or do you want someone else to own the property twenty years are GonNa pass whether you invested in real estate or not? Whether you bought that House that you've been analyzing or you didn't twenty years they're gonna pass an either someone's GonNa be paying that mortgage down for someone else or tenant is going to be paying down that mortgage for you. So I think it's really important like you said, get started immediately start growing that equity in those houses. So thanks that answer Derek you know all the nuggets in this in this interview so far have been fantastic ring. They have tons of show nuts, but we're going to be moving on a little bit more to couple random questions that we have for you. Just to get to know you a little bit better as an investor what it is, you do kind of things like that. So we're going to ask you a series of four questions and we're going to go from there. Actually. Do you WANNA go ahead and ask the first one? Yes and I'm actually not going to take one off the list. I wrote it down earlier when Derek was talking I, want to know about your time management how do you manage your time? You have your W. Two you self manage your short term rentals you're a real terror do have a daughter what You're running you're working out you're eating healthy. Do you have any time management tips that you can give all of us? Have the worst advice ever on this God. None I have I, I live. So seat of the pants I just go through and do whatever works for me in the moment I mean Yeah I keep appointments in my phone I run in the mornings when I'm when I'm going to get my run in it's always in the mornings I can get it out of the way I get up. Early to do that, I mean, I have somewhat of a schedule I do have a W. Two job. So I keep a notebook and I keep appointments in my phone but so much. That's my biggest flaw is I really need a productivity coach somebody to teach me how to be more efficient with my time because yeah, I'm horrible I am absolutely. Are. You the type of guy that just does it as it comes up or you procrastinate because I think that might make a difference as why you? Yeah I tend to well a little bit of both it depends it depends on the reward, right? If I think it's I think it's a high reward situation I tend to do it now and you know a lot of consuming all this knowledge. One of the books that I consumed on an audio book was eat that frog by Brian Tracy, which basically talks about that whatever it is the biggest pain in the butt you gotta deal with just do it and get it done right out of the gate. So I've tried to adopt that mindset. If there's something I really don't WanNa do I just need to do it and get it done, right? Away, if it's something with not even really the biggest for board or something that you like to do. Yeah. So I think that was what has made a big difference done and then do keep list I have a notebook and keep a list of to do list of all the kind of things I need to do, and then I just keep going back to it and something stay on that list for a week because they're not that important and I know I can get to him some things I know I just need to knock out every day and some things yeah. I procrastinate horribly on and realized I really should have gotten sooner so yeah. I'm not good at that. I think you just gave advice right there. Derek might turn over the next question all right I want to know what your top three books are. So again, I think books come down to where you're at in your journey in your life. So the top ones that I come up with was a hit me the hardest the big leap by Gay Hedrick that was a huge one for mindset to help me to understand you know wh-why hours where I was at in my life and what I was doing to hold me back another huge one was extreme ownership by Jaakko Wilmington. To understand, just take it just own it and make it yours don't worry about anybody else did. Everything is your fault. Everything is your responsibility just fix it the last one I can't pick one book but anything by Ryan Holiday I am a huge Ryan holiday fan and again all these come down to mindset for me the education aspect of learning how to do rentals all that stuff was good. But I couldn't none of that data would have done me any good if I couldn't get my head straight to understand you know how to actually view things in life. So you know ego is the enemy obstacles the way or anything by Ryan holiday I listen to his podcast daily Stoic daily I read his book daily Stolac. Daily Do I really enjoy it. I love that. Introduced me I read meditations I'm really I'm that's helping me because I still struggle every single day wake I got forty something years worth of mindset that I need to get past and you can you can tell yourself that you're going to turn that off and you're going to change it doesn't happen overnight it's like anything else you gotTa keep repeating it and practicing it so I have to remind myself every single day to keep moving in the right direction. So based on that. My next question will be what is your morning routine I get up between six, thirty and seven typically I run four days a week. So I was trying to get some exercise out in the morning. I do not look at my phone until nine a m That's that's just I've made that my habit over the last six to eight months or so. So I get up. I exercise eat some breakfast get ready for work. Again, I got the W. Two jobs several days a week. So on those days, I'm going to work on other days on following up with clients and then just than the rest of my day is reactionary to what clients calling me what's happening at work can just deal with it. But yeah exercise is the most important thing for me in the morning. Derek can our listeners find out more about you You can reach out to me email at Derek at the short term shop dot com or Derek there until you're dot com either one go to my phone social media wise I am I haven't instagram account have a twitter account I have a link in account, but I do not really pay attention to them very much. I am pretty active on Facebook I. Don't host a lot but I'm on there a lot. I do post in the new rookie. Pages when I can every Saturday morning after my long run, I, do a short little mindset video immediately after doing an eight mile run I, pull out my phone to facebook live just trying to share some piece of nugget. Those are the best. Personal pates that's on my personal facebook page. I do have a couple of business pages and I always share to my realtor page page for my meet up. So I I share at the both of so it gets out there. Yeah. I look forward to seeing that maybe we can post linked to that too in the show notes you guys will find the show notes at bigger pockets, Dot com forward slash rookie twenty, six today he believe it's already been twenty six episode. Listened to every single one. Yeah that's awesome. Thank you. Well, thank you so much for coming on today Derek I in from short term rentals to doing your first deal to private money I. Mean there was a lot of valuable information on your so many layers of my story that we didn't even touch on. I couldn't pack talk for two hours about some of the stuff I've been through. So yeah. Anybody's welcome to reach out anytime. I love talking real estate with. That's awesome. Maybe we'll have to do a facebook live in the rookie group with the time. There you go. Absolutely. Yeah. That'd be cool. Okay. Well, thank you everyone for joining us this week I. AM Ashley at Wealth From Rentals, and he's clearly at the li-pei May. R. E.

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Tony Wants Meaghan To Read A Bedtime Story

Mojo In The Morning

06:53 min | 4 months ago

Tony Wants Meaghan To Read A Bedtime Story

"The morning just moments ago we were talking about. What's the abc Caused by people have been asking about at the app that you fall asleep to every night the com at the column app where you're gonna have celebrities reads you most of the. There's a lot of things on the free version that you can try to meditate or fall asleep or to relax but to get that most of the celebrities you have to join it to pay for the premium version. What's it costs by the way l. It's only like. I don't know if i paid twelve dollars for the year. Ten dollars that bad. Hey tony yeah megan. Do you think it would actually be relaxing. The fall asleep to meghan. Yeah i like really. Would you like to try it right now. Maybe meghan can Oh i would like this. Read you a bedtime story. You'd be really good at are we doing this. Asmar style Whatever you think will help. I don't know if needs be whispered but you wanna make it relaxing. Tony somewhere similar. Yeah first off. I gotta ask you. Are you single tony okay. I'll be a sister wife at this point. Nine baras dropping. Are you accepting anybody else into your relationship. I've thought about that okay. Let me know what she says. It'll be a part time life all right. let's do. I need to like slow sexy cha piano or any kind of relaxing. He had all meditative spa yoga music. Or something really Make sure it's not coming here. You got a hack. The yeah all the flam before you start there you go. This is good. Are we ready okay. Once there was a boy who became board when he watched over the village sheep grazing on the hillside to entertain himself. He sang out. What wolf the wolf is chasing the sheep. When the villagers heard the cry came running up the hill to drive the wolf away but when they arrived they saw no wolf. The boy was amused when seeing their angry faces. Don't scream wolf boy warned the villagers when there is no off. They angrily back down the hill later. The shepherd boy cried out once again wolf wolf. The wolf is chasing the sheep. What do you think your rate ervin. The read is great. Billy joel's whistling was helping me on on tori. Maybe you didn't pick the right story. Hope this guy has his pants on. Where are you right now. Tony i remember driving home. He got pantheon right. We'll be careful. Driving home is relax you to the point of fallen asleep at the wheel driver rise and shine. How did you by the way your you said. I'll drive up to windsor make deliveries after. They found you on the radio. You are a solid. Yes okay so tony meghan for twelve dollars. A year will will read you a bunch of things okay. The same price. Maybe because i'm forced to do a podcast by our bosses blog posts and all that maybe every once in a while. I'll just read a children's story. It'd be like here you go. It's not a bad idea. No all right tony by the way tony. Are you sure that you have closed on right. Now while you're driv- yes okay after. We don't have just more legal if you do. Do you have a back portion to your truck where you can have a rest area there because if meghan joins you your in your relationship there's going to be need to be a place for began creepy now and that we wanna make sure tony. Yeah okay nagging. Brave reviews by the way by the way. Yes really yes. I'm doubting their tony's guy got his pants zipped up on the news side king. Yeah you could make some money doing this. Megan rebecca funny. Because i am the first person recognize when i get really into a topic are really excited about something. Get very loud shocking and super fast. So i find my own voice Really nice. here's rebecca back. You liked it. I thought it was amazing. It was driving so great st relaxed but it was really well done. I really liked it. And then you kind of work kale to an q. Rebecca do you. Do you believe tony when he says that his pants were set. I am hoping south. I am really hoping making sure all right. hold on. let me grab derek derek. Hey i'll be going this morning. Good you're on with mojo in the morning and tony the truck driver. I think tony's out one hand on wheel nice that somebody finds me attractive magnet for longtime as been willing to like go onto only fans and self your feet probably do this stutter content which is good. I mean that in a good way kinky to make some money on just the bedtime stories. Just the childhood stories. I mean it's just soothing. In the delivery tony you'd be saved today. Okay i'll be good. Say you say goodbye. Say goodbye to meghan meghan. Sometimes making it just needs to be said megan. How real this is mojo in the morning.

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S5-03    Valerie Nieman  To the Bones and Leopard Lady

Charlotte Readers Podcast

1:04:40 hr | 1 year ago

S5-03 Valerie Nieman To the Bones and Leopard Lady

"Welcome to Charlotte Readers podcast for authors. Give voice to the written words. This is the show that features stories and poems by local local and regional authors. The kind that touched the emotions followed by conversations at offered depth and insight into the readings and writing lives of the authors. We record the show show and the well equipped podcast Ed. That co working located right here in the Belmont community near Uptown Charlotte Support for Charlotte readers. PODCAST is provided by Park Road. Books the oldest and only independent Bookstore in Charlotte conveniently located in Park Road Shopping Center and by Charlotte Mecklenburg Library a connector readers readers leaders and learners with twenty locations and a twenty four hour online presence for more information about these book minded sponsors who help authors give voice to their written words. Please visit them online at Park Road. Books Dot Com and see him library dot org or drop by the bookstore or any library. Branch support is also provided by members. There's like you for that. We offer our gratitude along with some awesome member only content. You can find out more about these member benefits Charlotte readers. PODCASTS DOT COM but enough enough with a prologue musket to the stores. I'm your host Landis Wade thank you for listening. Today's episode. We meet author Valerie naming author of the novel to the bones the poetry collection leopard lady a life in verse and three other novels and poetry collections reviews up to the bones call it a parable. Capitalism and environmental degradation set in a strange disconcerted place populated by fault all four people trigger-happy. Rent a cops. zombies and residents can mysteriously evaporate or be stripped to the bone Lisa Shaffer curator the coney island museum calls Leopard Lady a beautifully written book that steeped in sideshow tradition and addressing issues of race gender self concept in creative expression we start the show with reading from to the bones. We learned in the opening pages at the protagonist was not the first occupant and Left for dead horrible smell dark cold. This is how it feels to be dead. Derek raced his head and immediately vomited. The nausea came in waves at every motion of his battered head echoed by his back back ribs legs if he was dead. And this was the afterlife than it seriously sucked. He breathes it in his mouth mouth but it didn't help much. The smell he tried moving has left leg numb and twisted under him and was surprised when it responded ended the pressure on his knees. He rolled over. Put his hands down to push himself to all fours and his fingers slid in something something greasy and file. If this was the afterlife than it wasn't one he'd been prepared for my catechism classes or college philosophy dark. He shook with the cold and the dark. Then I'm not dead. He crawled carefully anchoring his knees into the sloping ground. Pausing never the nausea roiled has got unsteady rock shifted onto his knees and he heard a skittering sound and the last thing he remembered he'd been driving a two lane road. The trees so close an inky tunnel pierced his headlights lights. Maybe the car off the road. Maybe you're buried. His unpleasant thoughts mocked there was a faint lessening. Hang up the gloom ahead. He kept crawling sticks rolling under his hand. Something tightened us and leggy moved across his fingers. He pulled his hand away. Then put it back down. The thin gray light increased. He could see that if not much else with his glasses. Gone and his shoes were gone to the toes of his socks. Dragging across the damper rocks. He seemed to hear things breathing nearby. Waiting no one's coming back for you. Ever he crawled around a rag corner and the light became a crack in the sky. A white intensity that squeezed shut his eyes and made the back of his head spasm and pain. He opened his eyes just enough to see a hazy field Iraq and debris dump he picked up a large round object and product close to his week is a pair. You're empty eyeholes stared back. He flung the skull away hearing at crack and roll to a stop and he realized those rocks and sticks were bones and that he was among the dead fairly name is fourth novel to the bones is as John. Bending satire of the coal industry is effects effects on Appalachia and joins her award winning novels. Blood clay survivors and Nina gathering third poetry collection Leopard Lady. Life verse includes work. The first appeared Meserve You Chautauqua southern poetry review and other journals. Poetry has appeared widely from poetry due to the Georgia Review to the Galway Review and has been published in numerous anthologies including is glowing edge of the woods and ghost fishing in he co Justice Poetry Anthology Values Health State and NEA. Creative Writing Fellowships graduate of West Virginia University in Queens University of Charlotte Charlotte and a former journalist. She teaches creative writing at North Carolina. A and T state university host. Landis Wade is committed to making this podcast. I worth your time. He's recovering trial lawyer award-winning Author Book and Dog Lover. WHO's laid back? Style encourages authors to read and talk about out there published and emerging works. You can listen to this show for free at Charlotte Readers PODCAST DOT COM or Charlotte Mecklenburg Lavery is digital branch website. And and you can subscribe and listen for Free Napa podcast forever. You like to get your podcast. Show notes of this episode with images links and information about the authors are tailable at Charlotte Readers podcast Dot Com Charlotte readers. PODCAST is a member of the twin cities. PODCAST network powered by Ortho Carolina for more information. Go to Queens PODCAST NETWORK DOT COM Valerie. Welcome to the show thank you. It's great being here. Yeah so you're a novelist loosed and a poet. I am kind of like being right handed in lift ended. That's a funny thing because when I was a child I was ambidextrous until they kind of forced the left hand not to be so active because they thought it was better for you to have a dominant hand and so But I was ambidextrous and I still do things backwards including looting shooting so novel writing. Poetry is being ambidextrous. That's a good idea. We're GONNA get to your poetry Book in the second the half the show but first let's talk about to the bones Great toddle did you just come up with that one. Dark and stormy night. Wealth The genesis of this book is kind of interesting. I lived and worked in West Virginia. For many many years I was a reporter newspaper. Editor had a small farm. Tom and was writing. I came to North Carolina. I've written a lot since then and had some some success with the publications nations but I was kind of stuck and I was talking to a writer friend about. I wasn't sure where I was going next. I wanted to start a new book and I got a little frustrated and I said you know back in West Virginia. I always said if I was going to kill somebody had thrown down mine crack and he said we'll do it. And so that was the genesis. So I've got somebody who's been thrown down a mine crack which is An area that subsides from sub service mining. And how did he get there an in. Who put him there? Why we're just go from here? Yeah I mean it's a great hook. You really grabbed the reader with opening read being left among the bones. What's in the book title to the Buns? And it is a honing story and is is that environment Got Got a little honing to it. I think it is haunted landscape in fact that that very term came to me this morning. I'm writing some other pieces. The combination of folklore that has come there from not only the British isles all over the world there are wonderful. Collections of folklore with many many many haunting tanks Rutan music collected these among one of the really famous ones is the Greenbriar coast where a woman's ghost came back and was able to convict the man who killed her grace to us. Oh yeah so. Yeah the the landscape of folklore but also the landscape of mining which is so destructive of up to people who do it and the people who are around it everything from havens in the minds to pollution of the waterways to black lung. All of these things are part of a very very destructive practice but also something that West Virginians have A pride that they are able able to do it. It's it's difficult and deadly job. Yeah and I was going to explore with you in this This idea of setting your novel. Oh and coal country. You spent a good deal time. There you were a newspaper reporter. You covered the coal industry. You covered the police and both appear in this book right and of course the side that appears in this book is is is not the law and order right. Did you see did you. You see much of the kind of thing I guess the other side of the coal industry that Maybe is not something that gets trumpeted in Washington. Lose the well. I think one thing is that we think that a lot of this is in the past that the days of Sid Hatfield being gunned down on the courthouse. All steps of minors being gunned down in their encampments when they tried to form a union literally machine guns mounted on rail cars. That would drive past. I mean I'm just horrendous violence and you think oh that's all in the past but it's it's not so past. When I was a reporter I covered wildcat mine strikes? And you still see as we've seen in recent years some some terrible tragedies like the upper big branch mine disaster where you know there was an explosion and and men were killed. So it's it's something that kind of it may be better today but it's not gone away. Coal still has an inordinate amount of power even as it kind of is fading away. The number of miners and the impact on the economy Goes down every year but it's a legacy of King Cole. And and much of the. The structure of things like taxation is built around extractive industries. Whether it's coal limestone timber you you talked about one side of the coal production industry the disaster the blowout the pollution of the river. Thank you Lou. To a few minutes ago you gotTa Sane in the book where where that happened. Did you see anything like that life. Sure Dad when I was a newspaper reporter and then editor there was a huge blow out on the Cheat River and inscribed with blowout is well acid mine. Drainage happens when the water percolates. Tate's down naturally from from rain and subsurface springs through the coal layers and the coal in the in that region has sulphur so for plus watery quill sulfuric appear Cowesett. And that accumulates in something like an old issues mine where it's not being actively pumped and treated which it is is required to be treated and so there was a blow out on the Cheat River which came from a an old mine. And I had just a crackerjack crackerjack reporter who covered this and who traced back exactly how this this disaster came to be at came to be with some human intervention so that was An inspiration for this and in your book in the scene almost if the river was on fire. Can you get that hot. And it's it's not hot. It's just just this horrible Yellowish or they call a yellow buoy. And it's it's just incredible credible color of the water. That looks like it should be on fire but it it is fact not but it's contaminated from The both sulfuric asset asset and also Iron metabolites as well well it. It sort of fits the theme of Your Book and Speaking of the theme your book And let's talk about this little town which is beholden to the coal industry? this character who you read about in the I chapter. We're GONNA meet again another reading but the plot itself West Virginia town which is dying you. You know the people in positions of authority who feel beholden to the owners of the mind even still There's a mystery here. Of course the Kavanagh's which are evil doers. In this in this book has sort of these supernatural powers. Are there little small towns in West Virginia. That still still exist that The might form the setting for the movie version of your book. Certainly the towns are still there. I I lived My farm was close. Two one in fact my farm over the surface of my my property I on the surface rights. which are you our own? was over the workings of the Farmington Farmington number nine mine which blew up fifty years ago and so those workings ran under and there was a mind crack in the back so a lot of this is very personal and in various ways the the towns are still there you can still go to a lot of little places which are called coal camps which have the the the company houses and that look very much the same in some wages they might have you know twenty or forty or sixty years ago if you just don't look at the dollar store But just look at the houses. But they've found new life. I mean the we reinvigorate themselves even the minds close. There's a there's a do it yourself attitude among people Appalachia that that so you know we can find other ways. And there's a lot of desire to move toward things like wind power. which would use those skills of miners who know how to operate high-tech machinery from operating long walls could could be doing wind farms Tourism is also big thing because West Virginia is in fact despite the the coal industry in its areas. It's still wild and wonderful. It's it's a stunningly beautiful place so there are other things going on but certainly I kind of I kind of stretched with this. I wanted to take it in places you know with genre where you know. If the coal mine honors can be monstrous. They have been then. Let's really make the monstrous. I was going to ask because you get. You can make this a small town even with the where the mines answer going out and you could upset Mr. there and you could ahead somebody killing somebody or something but you take it to another level with this sort of supernatural. You don't know whether these exactly happy with these people are and get strange past. Is that what you're talking about in terms of taking it to a different level. Yeah I actually. I wanted to play with a lot of these sort of stereotypes of the first first one being getting off at the wrong exit lot of horror. Movies have gone there so I I wanted to use those things and this is the territory of just the the area that I will send was not far from the Pennsylvania border and just a little north of there was George. Romero was filming night of the living dead. So you know there. There's a little bit of nine living Dara's much to to Romero so okay. Well let's talk about the characters and then you're going to have another read here. You've got The protagonist he's Derek Derek. He's a government auditor and he's the fellow who just woke up among the bones right And he doesn't know why or how it got there. He's got not a clue all he remembers. He was driving next thing he knows he's he's waking up and so he'll have to recall and remember some of that and then in this next thing which I think is set the point of view of Ranna. She she works as a sweepstakes operator. And she's GonNa see Derek for the first time in this next scene and then she sort of brings in into the full because she's got a secret past two she's trying to find missing daughter and her daughters disappeared that she came back to redbird. That's the name of the town and went to work for the Cavanaugh Coal Limestone Company which made her mother really angry then she disappears. There's so her. Mother followed her back to the town that she had wanted desperately to leave to try to track her down. And then you also throw a journalist in WHO's become come sort of instrumental and reporting on the oddities in the town and protecting Derek Raina and sort of helping to blow the whistle? was there a little bit of you in this person joined the journalist. Well there's almost a little bit of the writer in every little bit and Derek Rana the reporter Sadie Even one of the Kavanagh's saw well I think you find a little bit of yourself in your work. But the reporters really sort of based on that great reporter who covered the coal mine spill with a little little bit of some other reporters. I've known little shout out to the small town. Reporter does great work right well. Let's let's have this scene where Derek can lower Lorraina meet. Then she saw the man he was coming down the road from the fish camp obviously shit faced drunk and with her luck doc. He'd become her problem. She wished she could lock the door and leave but that would be the end of a job where she was hanging on by Toenail says it was she fingered the a pepper spray in the pocket of her smock hoping he would just keep weaving his way toward town. No such luck. He might have been unsteady but his path brought him right to her door. He pulled it open and stood there on the stoop. Oh she should have followed her first. That coat didn't fit him At all right then the blood Mike God is head and neck all black with an on one side. Finally the smell that wafted on the cold breeze made her gag. Despite her best efforts you best be going right back out. She said trying not to breathe. Please help me. The man stood with his oversized boots wide apart. Thick glasses probably broken from a face. Plant on some roadhouse floor were cocked sideways on his nose. I was attacked robbed. I need help. He moved inside the door shutting behind him. She backed up balancing the pepper spray on her. Left Palm Robbed where do you come from with nothing down that way but the closed up remnants of the fish camp he didn't sound drunk or crazy the how could you tell but the smell robbed or not. How did he come to smell like a deer? Lying dead on the side of the road for three summer days. Let me see your driver's license sweepstakes rules. That should send him on his way. I don't have a tell you what I'll give you something to drink. and You keep moving. You got to have a license to use the machines. Just Laurynas luck that not a soul is inside. Maybe it was time to call the owner. He rubbed his disgusting hands up and down his stubbly face. I know I stink. You've got no idea idea where I've been. I was thrown down a whole left for dead. Please just call the police for me. She laughed harshly and handed him a bottle of water. You don't call the police here about ever. Something seemed to click when she said that his eyes got distant than where I'm from the government and you're here to help us. She finished. She would have laughed again but he looked so stricken this town. It's a strange place. She said things happen. People don't appear here like you they more disappear. You have a serial killer or something maybe something lorraina said the Kavanagh's my path worked for them. they rung every drop of sweat out of him. PAP died because he was used up never called in sick a day. Just playing used used up like everything around here I guess small towns are like that damn. He dismissed her family her life. We've just like that but why me. I don't know anyone here. I have to get to the police. You're listening but oh you ain't Herron KC L. owns the coal. The gas the downtown the trees the land anything worth grabbing either outright or around the back ways that means they own the people to. She didn't care if she sounded bitter. Didn't you say there was a deputy there. Yeah cops ops judges politicians the newspaper even the UMW. Anyone that has any kind of poll because of these Kavanagh's they roost in their mansion behind their iron gates and no one even sees them anymore somebody sees them and I imagine they're creatures see them to get their orders. Valor sounds a bit moss. There with the creatures orders offers and and everything that goes with it too. So Jeff Phone writing this book. How could you tell I did? I had a lot of fun I had struggled with the previous novel. Still struggling with revising revising revising can't quite get it over the top and so I wanted to write something that I I could pull right out of my my heart I was in West Virginia school their farm there. I I was in that that community and so all of this was already in my head and I didn't have to go looking for research or or plotting out things like that I I I knew the landscape this was my landscape and so it wrote very very quickly. I am almost ashamed to say I finished it less than a year because it usually takes me five years or so so I feel like this just flew. That's great you get into that zone. You get moving and so have you always been attracted into this This genre the sort of mysterious of you maybe as you say monsters and creatures go up in the night all right well again west. Virginia's a great place for monsters. There's The flatwoods Monster and the Mothman and all sorts of interesting critters Yeah I grew up reading the classics the classics that were available in in our farmhouse or Roy Mixed Lot and included it shocked spear and Tanna son and Paul. I read a lot of Paul Wasn't maybe particularly age appropriate but those are the books that were there when you lived out in the country and then I discovered science fiction and so I was a huge bradberry fan and look when so many many others and so I have a deep affection affection. For all of the speculative areas. My first book was science fiction. Set in Appalachia so I kind of went back to the same landscape but not enough now in a science fiction mode. Yeah and to be clear this is not A. It's not a blood and guts novel it's It has that sort of creeping to you it but it has this mystery to it in his sort of death and destruction. But it's not so over on the page is an intentional on your part. Oh yeah I I like horror but I like classic horror. I don't like slasher films or you know things that are just buckets of blood. So it's I consider it a literary novel that uh uses the genre format so it it It's an it is intended to be a really good read but also I I hope has has something more to say. We got one more short read. You're going to do right before the break here. And this involves a character named Marco tells about more to Lamar Co is a a good cop. There's good cops and bad cops in this town. And he's a good one and he was forced off the sheriff's department because he kept asking can questions about what happened to dream and that wasn't something he was supposed to do. A Dreamer was the daughter of Louisiana. And so he's been kicked off. He's working as a janitor because that's the only work he can find. He's got a wife kids and you do what you gotta do. And he's also got a bit of a crush still on Llerena after many many years. Take it away. Mark opened the door to laurynas sharp. Knock doc eleven right on the top but he pulled back at seeing not one but two figures dark against the snow. What a friend Lorraina said? Let us San Faulk. He thought this was a mistake. Marco didn't allow them entry. So much as Lorraina bulled her way past cost him the stranger in tow he shut the door behind them and they faced each other in the unheeded receiving room breath puffing around their faces under the dim. Fluorescent wrestled boobs. Lose this new boyfriend Marco sized him up with a glance he'd have me on reach but that's it I take it easy. I thought you were wanting to find out something about dream. I told you I wanted to see the mind maps. and and how does that connect with dream and him. He knew how harsh voice was but was surprised to see bafflement moved briefly across her face and disappear an unguarded moments swallowed by her usual flat expression. How could she think this was okay? She already costs me one job. I'm asking again. Who is this? The guy looked nervous kept backing toward the door. Like he might hold the longer markle looked at him the less he thought easy. There's something weird there that creep up the back feeling when you know that hostile eyes on you or the darkness of a room that is Occupied by someone breathing waiting. This is Derek. He's on our side. Which side is that? Whatever side isn't the Kavanagh's right? He was attacked out at the convenience store the other night left for dead might could be. That's what's happened to dream. And the guy turned away and slowly bent his head so that the light could reach. An ugly won't showed with wholly inadequate butterfly bandages. Trying to hold the flesh together but allowing a view right down to the white his skull Marco began the laugh. Laugh Christ on a crutch your the Zombie. You're the fucking walking dead hot damn lawyer Anna you sure can pick them. She cut her eyes at him. Like enough said that's why we want to look at those mind maps. We need to find the mind crack because maybe dreamer is down there markel completed and a bunch of other people said Derrick. Okay so that's where the zombies come in valor the NBA's come in. They think this goes walking around. You just stumbled out of the mine early on He looks probably kind of like the walking dead right. He does us and and he's he's also got a genetic ailment that makes him Unable to keep us balanced very well which has been under control with medication but one everything was taken from him. There's no more medication. So he's he does walk oddly and he's got a huge head wound and he was walking walking down the road toward the sweepstakes parlor in a carload of local saw him and they have started the discussion or rumor that there are walking dead infesting bird and of course that's spreads very rapidly so lots of an unknowns in this book you've got One of the Protagonists Derrick Eric. WHO's got him? Nizhny can't remember what's happened to him. You've got the female character. He's met WHO's in search of her daughter and doesn't know what what happened. Her and when you introduced Kavanagh's later in the book things really get strange right and we don't know what's going on with them so and you know I tend to think of people who go down the minds and and you mentioned this earlier sort of special breed. I mean it's a it's if they sort of become one with the land you mentioned brown lung. You mentioned all the things that happened to them. They they're tattoo industry and it's difficult sometimes to escape. You know that that life the life which is not always healthy for them but in this book and without giving too much away you do something with the characters. Here's the Kavanagh's who don't you don't think of as going down into the minds and yet they're tied to the land even as much as the people who we do blew the smurfs. That's very true. I sort of have a parallel thing happening with them. And the beginning has bones and the end has bones in a different way but definitely they have a strong connection to this land that they own which they started as poor immigrants it's themselves mining their their ancestor literally with a pick and shovels. So they feel that sort of Ownership as the people who mined coal feel a kind of ownership that they know how to do this they they have skilled other people cannot do and you look at minors. I today and and the miners who operate the underground equipment. Two long walls lorraina points out in one place. You know they're college educated. This is this is very high tech equipment to extract this coal from the seems and it's not the image of the the the old time average of the minor. That's long since gone all right. Well get stuff listeners. 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Can you talk about your transition from newspaper reporter to the teacher. I think it was a a long process. I always knew I was going to write that. I wanted to write and I would right. I just didn't know how to get there. My family were factory. People and farmers people didn't go to college and can I really didn't know how to do that. I went to a rural school or most of the girls got married and they kind of didn't know what to do with me. I think and I didn't know what to do with myself so I did go to college and got a bachelor's degree journalism because that seemed while that's writing then I can write and then learn so I went to work at newspapers and I really I treasure that because I had so much experience everything thing was material I was out there doing interviews. I was doing all kinds of stories. I went down and a working coal mine which Certainly gave me material for the book. I did all of these things that that made me a better writer and so I don't regret the year Spanish journalist as opposed to teaching but there came a time when I knew that newspaper journalism was in trouble which I think we all recognize and I thought I should do a plan B.. So you went back to get your. MFA In creative writing. Yes you did it here locally at Queens right. I was Queens University versus Charlotte very early in their low residency program. Graduated in two thousand four and that translated into a full time. Tenure track position in that North Carolina. A and t where I taught journalism humanities and all the time moving more and more till today I teach only creative writing. Yeah but you also told me you teach another course. It's kind of fun right. Oh Yeah I teach a film course on science fiction and horror film see. That's where you're getting all your stuff. It's it's fun to spend the time with the students we focus on mad scientists because it's such a broad field and so every week I go in and we look at clips or we look at a movie movie and they've looked at movies and and we talk about. What does it mean to be a scientist? And how how if movies shown scientists and what are the ethics of science. And it's a blast. So I think of have had journalists on here become authors of novels and but I think journalism and writing a novel is taking sort of two different skill sets. And I'm curious as to what you had to eh sort of. Teach Yourself Guard against from your journalism days. And what's your journalism. Day is actually did to enhance your writing. Well one thing about being a journalist is that you are taught to write very tightly. There's no room for fluff and I don't think that's a bad thing by novels are very tight. And they read fast. Because I don't go off on digression here there and elsewhere I it's not a five hundred page book. It's a very tight read I think that's a good thing commits more the the hemingway style than the Tom Wolfe style. Where there's not a lot of time for character development in a in a journalist pace right you get your your reporting the news? Sometimes unless you're doing a a feature. I did a lot of features to do some a lot of feature writing and there you really are trying to get to character and to a grounding for you then in this in this world I think the one thing that's a drawback for me is that when uh I had someone at Queens University one of the professors point this out to me that as he said my writing was my paragraphs were were democratic. Back we're not that I have no idea what he met and he had to explain to me that I tended to write in a very staccato way. I did have a lot. AWW short paragraphs because you're taught in journalism to do that. So the reader. Can you know. Move along to the story readily so I had to kind of unlearn that and give myself a little breathing. Anything wrong with that. That's true for literary fiction. which is what you're writing here but you also when you're picking up your pace? You go to shorter paragraphs and you go to because readers. There's more white space on the page. They can move through it more quickly. So and dialogue dialogue. You want to be crisp and moving back and forth. That people don't unless they're college professors Give long speeches. Were always interrupting each other and talking back and forth so dialogue tends to out move right along in a very good clip. Well I know that As a reporter. You had deadlines now you've got to come up with your own deadlines stick to them right. Do you have a routine that you follow. Oh dear you're supposed to say the things are supposed to say yes. I get up every morning at four thirty and I write for four hours and I wished that was true. Do I think it could be again. Legacy of being a reporter is that I was always used to working at a very fragmented way. You'd have three different stories working. And then the UH the thing would go off on the wall the scanner and there'd be a four car wreck somewhere and you'd have to drop everything and you go out to that you cover that. And then you pick up the feature stories for Sunday and you learn to have all of these balls in the air and I think that continues. I'm always working on a novel and poetry at the same time and so when one thing isn't moving the other one is moving and I don't find that a problem but I think some people might that's just that's just my way of working. I think I'm always writing. I might not be sitting at my desk. But I'm always observing and paying attention and taking notes and one thing my I students have taught me is to put my poems on my phone because they come to class and they say I've got my phone. I've got my phone my home on my phone. That's all right and so I do the same same thing. I'm always writing up my phone poetry. Okay so speaking your students What do you tell your students on the first day of your creative running course? Well I want them to believe in their own stories and their own voices and I think that's the hardest thing mm to learn because it it was for me because growing up in a very rural area in a working class family. I didn't think my stories were interesting interesting and I thought I had to write about you. Know Faraway places an important people and I had to unlearn that and for them. I think it's much it's the same they see what's on television and movies and it's all rich people with fancy cars living in New York and L. A. and to try to get them to come home and to think think about their own families their own communities the stories that emerged from their lives in that are genuine. They know what is at stake and they know the people who were involved solved and they can write with great power. Do Your students inspire you. Oh Yeah I have learned so much They they keep me Current it would be very easy to become the poetry on the phone dryades. It'd be easy to become the sort of hidebound. Professor who you know is still teaching the same same thing. They taught thirty years ago and they won't. They won't let me do that. They keep me honest and they keep me reading new things and watching things movies that I might not watched and paying attention. I can't keep up with the music. I will admit that I've sort of let the music get by me. But I do try to keep up in other areas and you run into him at the oddest places we Recording here at the Edinburgh. St You and you ran into one of your former students today right. I did and the strange thing was. I have terrible terrible memory for name at for names but I listened to his voice. He was over there on the phone and I thought he sounds familiar and then he looked up and he said hello alone and he had to give me his name but I remembered him he had been one of my news reading classes twelve years ago and he remembered me I remembered his voice. Our final question. Then we'll move to a leopard lady rejection your students assume you've seen it Before thoughts what do you tell your students. You have to get a thick skin. You will get a lot of rejection. If you just want got to get published you certainly can do as many people do self publication or seek out more entry level journals but if you are pushing yourself and you want excellence. Then that means you're going to face rejection if you're submitting to difficult markets the take one percent of everything thing they get. Then you're going to have a very tough go of it but when you you achieve that then you can really feel like I've I've made it. I've I've achieved a certain level so I tell them that rejections is simply a fact of life you have so many writers. You have so many manuscripts I've been and An editor for to literary journals and they come. They used to come in stacks of Manila envelopes. That that went to the ceiling. Well now they come in through the electronic portal and it is just almost a ceaseless wave so there are so many good writers and so much good work out there and there just. It's room for all of it but if you're persistent you will find your way. The fact that it's rejected doesn't mean that it's bad necessarily correct just doesn't fit for that editor on that day. I'm looking at the cover here of Leopard Lady. A life inverse. What are we looking at here? Well that's that's another story. The whole story of Leopard Lady in brief is that I was sitting on my porch one night writing in my journal trying to come up with something and this voice began and would not let me go thirteen. Pages of dictation later I came out of it and thought what was that people who aren't writers. I don't understand the split. It happened right it. It just comes to you sometimes but it's usually something that comes to me in my voice. This was not my voice. It was nobody I knew and so I was a bit wary of this and it took me a long time to write this book because I had to wait for Diana China to tell me her story. Donna is the characteristic over this book. Yeah and the image is one that I painted. I am no artist. I don't claim to be but I went to who coney island and they had a workshop in Painting Carnival banners where you learned about the history and why certain look and you know the sideshow uh-huh and its place in American culture and paint and so I went there in search of Dina and painted this image to try to get my hands around. Who is this person who's speaking to me? What is what is her life Bennett? How is she ended up the side show so Yeah okay so so. We're going to have to get as poetry. Sometimes the reads very long Lots of lots of material but not as many words. That's we have but before we read a few Just a little bit about the collection itself you get some characters This is what I I. I guess. Assist is a a collection that tells a story right so he really front to back and it's more than just poems of different types you'd get. Did you get Donna. She's the Leper Lady Right and you got the professor yes. Tolson breath professor The professor joins the book midway another voice that appeared that I couldn't ignore. He's a younger character. Younger man who was a divinity student he was is going to be a member of the clergy but he lost his faith and so he's a wanderer. He's a searcher. He washes up at this to carnival and becomes The professor which is one of the things they called the the man in the sideshow town who goes around around explains the fictional history of these different people who are exhibiting themselves how the terrible snake man became the terrible snake man or take the leopard ladies stories and he and Dinah develop a close friendship and one that is going to it lasts until the end of the book. Now it as attending county fair something in your youthful past as well I love affairs and and the smooth days said and all of these these sort of things when I was a kid however never went the side show there. Were still a few floating running around them. They they really kind of went away in the sixties to seventies because people didn't think it was good to look at people with Various ailments anymore for amusement assessment but in their in their day in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries they were they were really kind of a refuge for people who are different because in the the wider world they would have maybe been institutionalized or locked up by their families because they had these these deformities or ailments but within the world of the side show even though they were could be considered in some way exploited they also had control of their own destinies. They travelled they made money. They had a supportive community unity. So it's a they're two sides to that coin so no. I never went in a sideshow but I always looked at the The banners and I did head coach. Ripley's believe it or not there all right. So let's start with The Leopard ladies speaks. which is the first poem of the Book and it was the first thinks she said to me that night almost intact? The Leopard lady speaks this leopard skin. Come on to me when I lost I love. This is not for the marks to know when my man's absence set a hot kindle up distrust that blowed back on me as lack of faith faith in what is more worthy than some handful of spit and dust. No wonder I lost my natural color. Trying to be all things to him him and him not wanting what I ever was or become or any between turning away like a spoilt child turning away like the Sun. Eat Up by the moon and not my doing or undoing. I- scourged my soul turning myself inside out to make him a better tempt against the weather up the world stretching myself across his failings like a warned through quilt. A wide cold bed. There weren't enough left me down to fill a thimble but gathered myself back up and stood feet reasonable to the earth lever. Light settling back like I've been dropped from from a high place and I was about satisfied. But the letting go of that man him of me than me of him left me streaked specked and spotted like the flocks of Jacob and I opened my mouth to say the truth things that under prop the world so valley we start here it looks like a relationship. That's gone south. There's some abandonment here. Tell us a little uh-huh what This voice was saying you let these words came out well Dina and it took her awhile to give me. Her name is a child who was orphaned at birth biracial child in Appalachia in Kentucky and she goes through cycles of abuse and abandonment. She's of course abandoned at birth. A family is She's given to a family who use her as a servant and she runs away from their joins a a carnival Meets One man who leaves her meets the love of her life shelby. Who leaves her? But she is just indomitable notable she always rises so even though it's a story of of a very difficult life she is triumphant at the end and the spots I would I would say there are metaphorical but We're GONNA scratch right. They are not metaphorical They are a result assault of a an autoimmune condition. Vitiligo where you lose your Melanin in your skin and people of any race can have it. I have it but if you are a darker skinned that is much more noticeable. Because you literally have. Albino Patches with no melanin whatsoever however and it's been a tradition sideshows that you had people with this particular ailment who would call themselves. You know leopard boy Leopard Girl Leopard man and and would be a part of the side show our. We've got another form where the Leopard lady tells her spots. Let's a kind of a transition to that. The Leopard Lady tells her spots. Don't be looking for. Its daubed on that banner. The Leopard lady naked in the jungle brown skin all over with black spots like wallpaper on a wall. I'm more so like a spotted hound or the rump of the APELU. CR Trick Ryder uses white strode over dark but truly like the Banter says I am alive inside the Tantai rest based on a high stool wrapped in red to the professor brings some round and spills a story. That ain't mine. I keep my back to the crowd but they spy hi. My hands spotted like trout fish resting on my shoulders. I hear them Russell and breathe and then I let the silk slide lied down nothing there. One says out my back is perfect brown except for a patch on my backbone. Just about the SPANGLING girdle. I wear for modesty but scarce that the silk be whispering louder than them as the Komono falls and I turn and stand and they see me top to toe all over speckled face to breasts to ankles my affliction being such that where one side I just marked. So we'll be the other here I am. Then the light dims down and the crowd shuffles along to see the the terrible snake man of the Amazon. And I gather up my read to cover my nakedness. So Valerie We don't as you said we don't have sideshows anymore where people pay to go in to see people with Whether it be skin conditions or some other the formity we're we're talking about a public that's attracted to the unusual to exotic. Well I think the public always spend attracted to the unusual and exotic attic. It's just that we do it in different ways. Now it's not acceptable to you. Know Look and point and laugh at someone who who has something different about them I think we've come a very long way. There are still sideshows but they they have lost that freakshow aspect on now. It's a pretty much. Strictly working acts people who have a skill they're sort swallows fire eaters. they sit in the electric chair they are contortionist there people who have trained themselves and those are called working acts as opposed to naturals who are people that are born that way. There's there are a lot of people that deal with a lot of things like this and it's it's just it's just super fiscal thing. It's not doesn't get to the heart who people are right. And and that's that's what Dina knows and put the professor now as as part of this community that now the story that he's that he's telling right fake story. The the strange thing is a lot of the carnival is humbug but a lot of it is true. It's just they they disguise their own histories with these these made up lurid histories of where these people came from and and people with conditions that Speaking of skin conditions there are people that have a particular kind of thing where their skin scales and they have sort of fishy looking skin so they would make up a thing about them having been swallowed by a fish when they were under some some crazy thing like the like that. And it's you know it's a sort of a mask or disguise Of their real. Nature's speaking the professor. You've got one it's a very short read Kobe calling. Could you read that to us. The calling I thought I heard the voice of God God when I was eight a clear snap of something breaking a twig or bone and in the space. That was left. My Name Name Jonathan Jonathan Episcopalians all on my mother's side a glory of gold and lace and proper tales of vocation Noah walked with God I learned and laggard. Moses heard his name twice called in Sunday school school and seminary I sought out the stories. I labored in the fields of Aramaic Hebrew and Greek as if new letters would invite vite that voice again I did not ask for the earthquake nor the fire nor the great and mighty wind only only the still small voice to once more say my name instead. It was my Leka Paul. Why are you here ear? What had I to do with God? I walked and waited. Slept inside dreamed for a dream but the lamb of God had long ago gone out and never again was my name called in the night. So how'd they piscopo aliens getting this one. Well yeah he's he's lost his faith. He's here at this side show Dinah on the other hand is a woman of of great great faith and so the two of them debate this whole issue of God and man and she knows her Bible very well and schools him sometimes. It's IT'S A it's a fun and sort of by play between the two of them That she was not well educated as a child. They didn't think that was necessary but she taught herself. In the book walks she had available where the King James Bible and a volume of Shakespeare so her language is definitely affected by that. So can you give our listeners A little bit of teaser. Here about what they're gonNA find When they read this from start to finish don't give away the ending? Kinda give awesome direction where we're going. Well it is a life story at Sits Dinas Life Story from her birth Until she's about age forty five and half of the book is concerned with her relationship with the professor and he also was afflicted he was a blue baby. Baby which people don't know that anymore. It's not a term we use but in the from the mid fifties before Children who are born with a particular congenital deformity of the heart didn't get enough oxygen and they were blue. Their lips were blue. Their skin had a bluish tint and they died young because they were misrouted and a an interesting team a surgeon a an African American reckon surgical assistant and a female nurse figured out how to fix that and they started these surgeries to fix blue babies. ABC's and they did and he was one of the first ones but the they they continue to have problems. I mean they. They had ongoing issues and he has ongoing issues so he has an affliction of his own and Dina certainly has has her spots to deal with. She goes through a lot of Different roles in the book she starts out as a dancer they put on the stages Hoochie Coochie dancer. She's fourteen years old. Then she becomes a psychic learns how to be a fortune teller and it finally becomes the Leper Lady and exhibits her her physical form so by the end of the book she will have come into into a real acceptance and in a power in herself. She no longer feels like you know the the abandoned around two or misuse child. She is a woman of strength and character and And a place of her own in the world and you can hear a a little bit of that and and the poem. The Leopard Lady tells her spots. I suppose this came you and you said I'm going to write this News Poetry Book. But how did you know whether it should be poetry or a narrative It came as poetry and at first I thought that I burst. I thought well maybe that's all the rest of the poems kept coming and then the second voice came in and so oh I realized I was going to have to take it as it came. which was the through individual homes that added up to a life story which is is not many people have done this? When you're making this sound like a little bit here like you know it's it's very And the voices were different in the form of the poems hers were always free verse and when the Professor Started speaking it was a much more educated voice but there was something about the rhythm and I was trying to figure out what it was and I realized realized. It's blank verse. It's mill tonic blank. I it's I anti pentameter and so his poems are all in that form and hers are in free verse but it was more that it was the form came with home which it often does. I you know I'll start palm to form makes it self evident pretty clear pretty pretty soon. So that's not unusual to this book but it is something the the poem itself will tell you what it wants to be. We've got one more. It's about that forty-one seconds pretty short When I was flipping through reading the different poems in the book I saw this and I said I'm not sure exactly how this fits him but don't WanNa hear this one the let's read you? Don't leave it on the side of the road. You don't leave it on the side of the road. Only the skunk who is precious in the sight of the Almighty for his first fingers marked. Its back like you'd stroke cats that Piss Kitty. He just humping across the road heading for what egg breaking or cricket hunting. It does in the night when the tire finds it and the wheel the bump too small to be a body broken but it was raises up a smell from Earth to heaven like a mortal soul clinched for the longest time to the ankle of its death. You're making me think about Scott in a different light now. Well what I see that white more on the back hand of God touch the sky. Well that's the way Dinah would see she's an observer for the world there are quite a few nature poems in the book because she pays attention to the natural world because for her it's a manifestation of the divine so God is God is present even with the the skunk even with the Scotto. That's a great way to wrap things up today. It's a it's been wonderful having you on the show. I'm going to have information in the show notes or or how to Connect with Valerie there a website and social media has some other links there and some pictures book covers and things of that nature valujet wonderful having. 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The podcast like innocent on death. Row Mrs Dear Governor iheartradio APP on Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to worst year. Ever a production of iheartradio. Welcome America to an emergency update episode of worst ear ever this is this is an episode. Didn't expect to report but we have to do some absolutely critical events that that you need to be informed about something that has changed the landscape of America yet again. I'm of course talking about the fact that that Joe Biden appears to have soiled himself in an interview. Let's set up and punchline. Yeah out of the park. Got Him the first half. Had dissected Paul that the very start of this whole project in the first half of the year two. So I'm proud of that that that prediction rather talk about. Yeah Yeah I would rather talk about Mr Biden's Fart than the story that we are going to talk about because it involves horrific police brutality so I thought that was a gentle introduction. No Yeah and we also. We don't want to be irresponsible to we. Don't want to take charge. Far is funny to me. WanNa share fake news. Some excellent phrase it. Yeah it's really like inspirational Washington. Nothing to do with what we're about to talk about. I would definitely push for that to be the title anyway. Robert Continue. Yes activists this this. The actual thing that we're talking about is a very sad story. It's detailed of George Floyd. Who was accosted by four police officers in? Minneapolis on Monday and was arrested on suspicion of passing forged bills footage of him actually being arrested There's footage both like a people filming the police and of like Footage from a security camera. It does not show him resisting in any way Not that that would justify what came next. One officer put his knee on Mr Floyd's neck while he was on the ground and held it there for more than five minutes until he suffocated to death. You know throughout that process multiple other officers until eventually four officers were all on Mr Floyd helping to hold him down while he was essentially strangled so that that is the inciting incident for what has become in a we're now in what is our second day of protests in the city of Minneapolis. Yeah after this video went. Viral people started taking to the streets in large numbers. The mayor announced that all four officers had been fired But they were not arrested and so a number of things were sitting emotion. This point for one thing just people started taking to the streets like do to protests Largely peacefully some other things that happened where a mix of people online found access to The the address of the officer primarily responsible for the death of Mr Floyd and they started sharing that and it was weird because I was following this as it was all breaking. It was a mix of you know activists who were enraged. This guy doing this is where he lives but there was also like right. Wing people boo Gulu types. And this is a major dimension of this protest because there's there's been this movement growing in the United States kind of started on four Chan and then got free and to read it in facebook and it's the boo blue. This is something that you've talked extensively about on your podcast. Yeah I've been following the the evolution of this for a while because it's not and there's a bunch of misconceptions. I kept seeing crop up. There was a lot of people particularly like some black activists who thought the Bugler was kind of a synonym for race war. And I don't think that's accurate. There's certainly sizable minority of the group. Who see it is that but there's also like a lot of guys a lot of the people because I was following this community both in in Minnesota and across the country as they reacted to growing protests to the video of Mr Fluids murder. And you know. There's a chunk of them that I think are kind of callously trying to steer this towards violence for their own political ends which are probably racist but there was a large chunk who were as outraged as the rest of us for the same reasons that. We're all outraged about this right. It's because it's outrageous and there's nothing about being like weirdly obsessed with guns in fighting the cops that also means that. You're not honestly infuriated when you see a video like this. Everybody should be angry watching this video But so this started to develop over the course of the twenty six. The Night of the twenty. Six people started going out of the street and getting into confrontations with police officers in largely what? I was seeing at the beginning and like I was not there on the ground. I was watching a lot of different livestream And I think it would be fair to say that the vast majority of the serious violence deployed was by police. A lot of bullets hitting a lot of people in the face. A lot of t huge amount almost unbelievable amounts of tear gas being deployed As well as Flashbang grenades nightsticks. There's numerous videos of police. While arresting people having multiple will punching them in the face and head And there was there was a I would say retaliatory violence from protesters people throwing rocks people shooting fireworks and one of the dimensions of this. That's really confusing. Is that a lot of this retaliation. Was I think pretty understandable? It was people seeing violence used against them. Having just watched the city of a murder and being directly confronted with these police who are being so violent being like fuck it. I'M GONNA throw rocket them or I'm gonNA break in the window of one of these cars But there is also this chunk of these kind of far right agitators. These boo glue kids. Who showed up at the protest? At least sixteen of them possibly more. So there was one group of at least sixteen from the From the Big Igloo Boys facebook group which is Facebook Group for these folks? About thirty thousand people spend all their time talking about their desire to spark a new civil war so these showed up and they brought one of their boo blue flags which has like an Igloo. On it and stuff and it's a lot of the imagery is very silly but the kid holding the flag got shot by a rubber bullets now at around the same time another individual who was posting on these boards showed up open a handgun at one of these protests and he later claimed that a mix of ANTIFA and black lives matter had robbed him of his gun. I found video which Danell we'll put in here. After I finished explaining it I found a video of an activist who is live streaming at the time talking about confronting this man and the way he describes it that he in some other activists saw this guy with a gun re the decided he was almost certainly a white nationalist agitator there to stir up and took his weapon away from him and sent him packing and we can insert that that audio here. Danell League report to talk initial media black. Cnn gone on. We don't know comedy but he's only what got from expeditiously. Goodness stand for all people going says he's doing right now. That's worth nice form. So yeah that's kind of a a little. A hint of how complicated and intense things are in Minneapolis? Right now. So you've got these. You've got these protesters who are rightfully curious about what's happened. You've got these police who have been responding very violently and who also now at this point are cracked out haven't been sleeping and are like furious And getting more aggressive. And you have these right wing agitators. Some of whom are there at of honest solidarity some of whom are there because they think this is their best possible chance to start a civil war and there's a left coast right. Watch was a twitter account a journalist that I that I follow has been inside some of these boo glue telegram groups where people are talking about. You know the need to Get the police to start shooting with live rounds into the crowd so that they the boo-boys can fire back with live rounds. So there's this this this whole mix of things that's happening in. Minneapolis right now. All of which is extremely tense and extremely dangerous terrifying real recipe for disaster. It's just you get that much tension in one place and you know some little thing can set off a whole series of unfortunate events and I mean you look at like Kent State. I mean that's not even one little thing. Those were police terrified and ready to go and abusing people. You know you know what I mean. It's just it's just terrifying. Things popped off at a lot of ferguson protests because of like water bottles. Yeah Ronin stuff and like there's It's interesting the that everybody knows why these protests are where to do this like the the guys who are to start this violence They can't do it at the haircut protests. They can't do it at the ones that are like all these right wing militias with the gear and their flags Doing their Nazi protests. Because they know that the police aren't going to do anything but when the police are policing events like this with certain kinds of protesters they know that if they cause enough of a problem that the police response will be something that they can't elicit an add another maybe more I guess optically friendly. Yeah type approach. That seems to be very clearly understood by a lot of these folks so that the people who are outside Minneapolis and kind of the glue. Community started immediately. Churning up memes. Where like one of them was a screen. Grab from the video of Mr Floyd. Being murdered That shows like the police officer with a NEON MR fluids neck that says Something lines of You can't stop this unless you have a gun And then there was another one. That was a picture of Mr. Floyd's face in this kind of the specific kind of way that they it's like a patriot. Wave is sort of like the description for the way they edit these images in like a certain stylized way and they do this for a guy named Duncan limp. Duncan Duncan limp was a a militiaman Kind of a BOO Goo Guy. Blue activist. Who was I believe? Twenty one years old and he was shot to death in a no knock raid by the police. The police alleged that he had firearms. He was legally prohibited from possessing because of a juvenile charge. There's debate as to whether or not that was legitimate. Dunkin limps family claims. He was shot. The police say that he accosted them with a gun as they were entering his home. And he booby trapped his home. His family says that this is untrue when he was shot to death in his bed next to his girlfriend who was also wounded in the right. I don't know what happened. But they have adopted him as a martyr and so they for weeks. They've been sharing images of his of his face With like the phrase his name is his name is Duncan limp written on it which is kind of. It's like a fight club callback. But it's also their explicit sort of goal of to turn this guy into a martyr and hours of Mr Floyd's death. They were doing the same thing to his face and they have you know his name is Charles Floyd in the same kind of edited together in the same way and the conscious goes like we can get these people on our side. We can get them on our I to back already of fighting the police and the way we want to fight the police and I wanNA make it clear. I'M NOT AGAINST. I'm not even against fucking throwing rocks at the police in the situation like this but I don't think that gun battles with the police in the middle of a massive crowded. Protest is a good idea. Yeah that's not going to help anybody especially not you explain. Why by just saying that? Sentencing actually it would help the police. More don't start gun battles in the middle of crowded protests full of innocent people as a rule as A. Don't start your role to live by. Yeah Yeah it's it's this. There's a bunch shit that like I just don't know what the truth is yet. So one of the things that's been going around is they're worth three open. Carry protesters who appear to be both kind of into the blue blue stuff and more left wing. Although I don't have a clear concrete understanding of their political ideology they're definitely super at least one of them's definitely super into the big. Two of them were white. One of them was black. They were open carrying a long guns rifles at the protests They claim that they never discharged their arms And that they were there to peacefully show support and protect the crowd which may be true. I do not know I also found video of its terrifying video which has been purged from the Internet. This point but the video showed it was a livestream from one of the protests was a large crowd of of mostly black protesters marching down the street peacefully and as they're marching and chanting. There are a series of five loud gunshots. The sounded like rifle-fire although it's Kinda hard to tell and then the crowd likes it was terrifying. People very clearly worried that somebody was opening fire with a rifle into the crowd. That isn't what happened. But there were definitely shots fired It was not fireworks and then I found another video of one of the people who is in. That crowd was taking cover with a group of other activists claiming that the people who had fired were a group of dudes with AK47's. I don't know if she literally sue thought they were as or if that was just kind of like term for a rifle that occurred during the moment but that they had been the ones that fired and so that some people suspected that was that group carrying they have explicitly. Were denying it on facebook. I don't know but that kind of shows you the level of like how difficult it is to tell what is going on. There were absolutely shots fired at the protest. It doesn't seem to have been by cops in part because like nobody got shot it like it. Seems like someone was just shooting and we don't really know who it was or why they did it but it panicked to the crowd and given the number of people who are talking online on the in this bugle community about their desire to spark a gun. Fight like you have to look into it and I don't. There's a very real possibility that that comes from them to see what happens next right merely just making the sound. Yeah I mean I've already said this terrifying but it's an in many ways different ways. It's terrifying what this means. What this represents this escalation of tensions in general because we're everybody's primed right now and it's a perfect opportunity for people to come in and exacerbate tensions right but also there's like you're saying it's really hard to get track of what actually is happening or what's going to happen but there's so much news from a about. I was really grateful when I saw you tracking this story last night on twitter because it's so hard to shift through everything as is let alone make space for this very important thing that's developing and we need to be in our radar have on a radars and is going to continue to develop. Yeah keep a over the same altos. I mean obviously yeah. It just looks like someone sharing photos from Ferguson and calling it something else and like just thinking I keep thinking game time period and like how even like these protests like. There's so much going on. It's and then when the tear gas comes out it's so hard to follow what's going on and you need to like be really locked in and tuned in to local reporters there and just like to get a sense of like any sense of what's actually going on And the idea of doing that now. during during a pandemic and six years later When things have gotten worse and more polarized everything just just worse and yet the same. Yeah and it's their first off just as a note if you're looking for a good source on what's happening in. Minneapolis from a group of journalists on the ground in live streaming Unicorn riots. You can find them on twitter if they have a website. Google uniform Unicorn right you'll find them They've been doing great journalist for journalism for a long time. A lot of on the street stuff. They're incredibly good at covering this exact sort of thing and I can't recommend them enough. There Patriots supported so consider backing them. They're they're really good people. I met him at St digital stuff. They really well to getting. Yeah Yeah. Yup they've put together. Yeah incredible resources. So yeah the. There's this difficulty when talking about this. I've even gotten slammed by some people online for when talk about like the provocateurs coming in and trying to spark violence where they'll be like. Hey fuck off with this. You're essentially like means testing the protest or like arguing that only non violent protests is valid or denying the use of a diversity of tactics are trying to push the image that like these these protesters violent and I. I understand the concern over that because this is something that happens and I. I get frustrated when particularly people are more liberal bent get angry protesters for engaging physically with police in situations where the police are outrageously aggressive. As if it's OK. As if the fact that that that violence from protesters provokes more violence from police means that it's okay for the police to be escalating violence in that way which. I agree as I can't have retiro tests. Sorry go ahead. That is not. Yeah oh it just like that. L. Is really important to address. Talk about and it's one of those things. I already seeing like rehashes of every single conversation. That was had about about Ferguson. It's like it's about. Obviously there's a reason but like it's just maddening. Instantly that like we gotta do it all over again and have those conversations again and The the kind of pain that people have to go through just like watching this unfold. Yeah but it's also like it is what you're talking about that situation those people that's like that's the no. I'm not I'm not I'm not right. That's there's a difference. Yeah there's in what you're trying to say right now. Yeah there's and I want to read some of the quotes that left. Coast Right Watch At Elsie are w news on twitter. Found going through these blue blue focus like telegram channels with these guys talking about what they WanNa do with the protest us one person stating remember that these folks and he's talking about the cops are used to everyone fearing and cowering. They're addicted to the feeling and addicts will do anything for another hit. But they have to be the ones to fire. I we have to be acting in self-defense. But we can taunt the hell out of them to push them to the breaking point. Here's another post gunfires. Getting really heavy. This may be it. This may be the BOOB. My rose in an Emoji of praying hands. Yeah there's there's more a protester down to rubber. Nonlethal is not the same as drop from nine millimeter or five. Five six types bullets. We have to wait until it's intentionally lethal. Someone response intentionally killed that man that sparked this whole protest Another person's saying show up force. Just don't fire until fired upon and then another person responding make them shoot. I won't be hard. They will be pissing themselves in itching to assert authority. And there's there's a ton of that like the this hope that there will be that. The police will open fire on the crowd with live rounds. These this small group showing up with weapons can defend the crowd with guns and that. That's yeah that's pretty clear what their intentions are here. And I say this will keep happening because I believe that we will see this continuing to happen at different protests and the tensions keep getting exacerbated. I mentioned state because it's like far less happens to set off the police then. This as tensions are mounting. Do you know what I mean. And it's I'll just keep saying it's terrifying. Yeah so for example And I think the these these Google guys talking about their desire to get into a gunfight with the cops over this it's a mix of ones who are just so angry at the state of affairs in this country for some good reasons that they think the they've become acceleration as they think that just a giant gunfight with the state needs to erupt because it's the only and people who really don't care about the lives of people in the crowd and just want an excuse to have a gun fight because they're violent like it's a mix of those two but there's also trying to manipulate these these protests and push things towards violence element of just straight up Nazis and that's embodied really by what fortune did last night so there was this young man who was one of the very last and this isn't around had been around three or four in the morning. Minneapolis Time Derek Branch and Derek. It was live streaming. He's he he makes music and stuff and so he's been like has like a decent sized platform for live streaming and like it's I think. Twelve thousand people were watching his livestream and because the police had really taken efforts. Some people claim the police to take efforts to knock down to put like signal blockers and stuff to knock out livestream and I can tell you that a lot of live. Streams were taken down by facebook during the protests. I can't tell you that that hasn't been looked into enough but people are investigating at currently Derek. One of the only people up late at night when the police were trying to push protesters away from the third precinct. House in Minneapolis. Where like a lot of them were around and so one point in his livestream Derek Derek branch like is asked by someone on the livestream. Hey man how's your camera battery doing? And he pulls a battery like large black battery out of his like pants and he says it's like locked and loaded man and he puts it back in now at the same time on four. Chan's poll board These kids as they do time. Something like this is happening. It started looking for ways to fuck around with it and they found Eric's livestream and they all hopped onto the youtube video. The like the youtube post for his livestream and just not it was a mix of them like making a bunch of racist jokes but a bunch of them like also started trying talking about on four Chan and on Youtube how they could get Derek killed. And they settled on calling the police informing them of his livestream sending the police clips of him saying locked and loaded and telling the police that he had gotten. I was listening. Live to the police radio feed and I heard the police say there is a livestream. He says he's locked and loaded. He's flashed us with a gun and they were clearly now listening to his livestream and as this is happening on the the the Youtube video all these four Chan kids are talking very excitedly about like you know he's about to find out This guy is going to get killed like. We're going to get this guy killed. Isn't that fucking awesome and Derek is also listening in to the police scanner at this time. So here's his name on the police scanner and he realizes the cops think he has a gun and he fucking books it gets in his car and drives away and there was a fucking terrifying Twenty minutes or so just watching this kid in his car like almost on the edge of tears thinking he's going to get murdered by the police knowing that the police have his address and our reading it out over because he's hearing the police as and thankfully because this was all being publicized. It wasn't just the Nazis trying to kill this guy who are aware of his dream. A bunch of people started calling the cops and saying you've got it wrong like this guy is a is unarmed. Like here's what's happening on the video and the police backed off and he was not. He's fine there. Derek is all right but what a terrifying turn of events. It was fucking horrible. Yeah and these kids were like fucking Nazis. They're talking about Nazi stuff like one of them one of the quotes that I pulled out of it. There's just one guy saying FASCISM MR future so they're not very subtle about it but also like they're constantly talking about 'cause like after Derek. It became clear. He wasn't going to get murdered. They switched over to another life. Feed to watch Unicorn riot and this was like in front of the liquor store when the cops were trying to push people out of the liquor store that had been liquor. Store got occupied at one point And just constantly making comments about joggers in about like wanting to see police takeout joggers. Which after Ahmed Arby's murder Jogger is white nationalist slang for the n? Word now it. Yeah so it's not a great time to be an American good good. What yeah are there other protests things on your radar that they might also try to infiltrate and so anything that gets any kind of actual cultural inertia behind it? I do think you made a really good point. Cody and that the violence. We're likely to see from these folks are attempts at actually broken. The police violence way more likely to happen at sort of a more traditionally leftwing demonstration like this was although like being angry at at police. Murdering someone isn't left-wing or right-wing but the the days. Yeah Yeah So I think like the next time cops murder a black man. Somewhere in America tomorrow probably An- protests erupt. You can expect to see these. You can expect to see them. Continue to show up and thankfully like this time at least so far may changed by the time this fucking episodes drops but so far. There hasn't been a gun fight sparked by these boo blue kids showing up and getting in the middle of things but that could change at any moment it could change at any one of these protests because most of these guys when you get right down to it when like the meat he hits the metal most of these boo glue. Kids aren't gonNA ACTUALLY WANNA get into a gun fight. I've been gunfights. They suck like they're they're terrifying and it's very hard to react. Well trained for them. They're disorienting and confusing and even if you have a weapon trained to use it the odds of using it effectively or low especially in a situation where like at least in my case. They happen in war zones. I can't imagine the chaos of being surrounded by tear gas clouds and protesters people shooting laser pointers and lights and flash banks and then a gunfight starts like not the best environment for accurate right but like what movies though so. I don't have you thought of that. I don't think most of these people are actually likely even the ones who show up. Most of them are not likely to actually start something regardless of what they say. But all it takes is one and then you've got a lot of metal flying through the air and probably a lot of dead and wounded people and then more protests and those protests will start more amped up level and will involve more armed people and like. It's it's a cascade effect as we're seeing happened in Minneapolis right now. I think it's cascading It it probably could stopped him. The apple is this case. If the police immediately arrested and charged with murder I might have done something As opposed to just firing them his. I don't know if you know this. But in in the city of Minneapolis half of the times when officers are dismissed are fired for reasons like this for like police brutality. They are rehired. Because they're union sues department so people were yeah. Yeah that's very regular. It's actually more than one hundred hundred. The number of cities almost immediately. Yeah very fact. Just so fucked up. It's depressing this is depressing. We have something positive to say for our listeners. You know ways to help get involved support. Pay Attention I guess. Yeah I mean if you're in Minneapolis. Take to the streets and try to support people protesting and whatever we can to ensure that justice is done. Because whatever the like. This is a dangerous situation. It's not safe to take to the streets in these situations but I do think that of all of the bad outcomes. The worst one is not making the city pay when it murders citizens when it's agents murder citizens. I don't think the option is don't protest. I don't think that's the answer here But if you do get out and do a protest or if you wind up at one later this year because there will be more keep a fucking eye out for these kids. Keep a fucking eye out for people who are looking to. Who aren't there to actually support. The protests in a meaningful way. And who are there because they want to be the star of their own little action movie. Yeah that would be my advice And learn how to deal with a gunshot wounds by Combat Application Journal tourniquet. Pick up some CELAC SAWS not a useless skill to have in a country with four hundred million guns. Okay some positivity. The President tweeted that at his request. The FBI and the Department of Justice are already well into an investigation as the very sad and tragic death in Minnesota. George Floyd Oh good. I'm glad that he's asked for this. Investigation to be expedited Guy WanNA dump. He's Shit. I'm glad that we're already doing the things making sure they do. It really well. It had been announced the day before. Talk that unbelievable. Yeah but that is. It's interesting the way that he has talked about that. He's I know he's scared of this. Because this is a this is a largely. Although not entirely conservative heavily armed anti-state movement that is getting into the streets and aggressive during his administration. Which is actually kind of one of the things that might be it of all of the bad things about having trump in office part of me is like maybe it's not the worst thing that he's the president as this is hitting because this way it's not we're not seeing of a right wing insurgency form against a Liberal Democrat. We're seeing it form very very explicitly against the police. Who again even if you think that these. Bugaku kids are widely misguided and compromised by Nazis which they definitely are like fuck the police so I guess that's what I'm saying I can. He definitely he seems to be scared as fuck of this because he has no control over it and because it is going to harm his chances of reelection. And because every like yeah. There's no way to spin this to a Democrat thing because it's the fucking police and he has made it a huge part of his campaign to be filmed with police to talk about the support. He has from the police. Like there's no co-opting the Boo Movement for the president because these guys fucking hate him in part because he's passed more gun control than Barack Obama. Did which is another aspect of this interesting times. At least everything makes sense. Oh yes perfect sense Yup Crystal Clear Straightforward Times. Yeah Elon. Musk avoided blowing up a rocket to that. That's good that's good. I'm glad it'll be another day. The weather the weather was like not today. But he's GONNA kill go. Spend time with your child. He's GonNa kill on another day. That's good New York City. Hey No not today. We couldn't. We couldn't have handled it today. They were like no just like give it a do this do with this weekend. New York City rats are becoming carnivorous monsters. Hungary know what Darby in the subway system. Why don't we give the rats are shot like running have it? We're not verge right. Yeah they seem like they know some shit I bow down to our new overlords. Yeah I don't think those little midst can hold guns so at least there's that yeah yeah so are. Closing advice is take to the streets and vote rat in twenty twenty guys. They're just GONNA make tiny. There's you're right. Tiny guns didn't do a PSA at cracked for tiny guns. Yes a good take. Checkout are tiny gun. Psa on cracked from years ago and that stroke Song New York City Rats. You could check us out online at worst your sticker hand to instagram twisted Graham. All right Oh yeah. Yeah all right this is it although I wanNA know name one last one last bit of an update from sixteen minutes ago are still continuing around the police precinct. Walled off the precinct. Protesters appear to have retaken the liquor store and now have the high ground over the police are. Things are mellow music. I ground guys but would it doesn't sound like it doesn't love how my God I mean they're already using the was what I'm saying. It certainly does not sound like it's de-escalating now they've taken are. I'm sure we'll have more to say about this show. We all right stay. Powerful bomb worst year ever is a production of I. Heart radio for more podcasts. From iheartradio visit the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or wherever you listen to your favorite shows do you know what it feels like to change a diaper while wearing one does your sweaty face twitch when someone says you've got the pregnancy glow hi it's Katie. Lowes fellow Mama and host of Katie's crib. A podcast where we have open and honest conversations about what it's really like to be a parent this season. We've got power house guests like America Ferrera and Gabrielle Union. It's real MOM's real talk real tired. New episodes release every other Thursday. 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You are listening at the same time while you're listening if you haven't yet subscribe to the show do that now. Now for two as podcast. We have first psychotherapist. And the host of the killing coppard podcast. I'm going to links. And the show killing dot com nadia uneasy. Thank you so much for being here pronouncing your name right. I am so bad at this. But i am super excited to get this starters and before you tell us about yourself and i want to hear more about what you do. We have a couple anna kaiser and they're thinki- who hosts the eighty movies montage where they go and review eighty movies again when a older links in his show notes he could go and find him so ninety. Your tell us a little bit about yourself and what you do on the shores. So i guess i'll start with my professional stuff So i am a licensed therapist I graduated from columbia university. School of social work win with advanced couple studies and i worked for a long time in a trauma and community S further into my career started working more in the wrong relationships because god about this for a long time but on the relationships that we have really dictate the quality of our life in how we manage. Our relationships has a huge impact on that and so they got me super interested and rich out and be a little bit more independent exported from staff. And so i started working relationship. Coaching anna sort of doing a lot of work around dependency in narcissism being ready to start dating and work for that in a long time and most recently i have been working with exit. Usaa we help members of the violent follow rate to get counseling and resources to read and reclaiming their lines. So cool awesome. Okay and what about you anna there. You wanna tell us that yourself and how you guys met. Sure i get a kick things off so yeah a i'm ana and my husband is derek. And we've been together now actually. Today is officially forty. Nine months ago Last our anniversary some been married a little bit over four years and we met each other over the very romantic interwebs. He met online. You okay cupid and that was let's see here. Let me do some math. That will oh that will be ten years this winter this coming winter. So that's how the magic all began so awesome so if you had to look at relationship what would he say is one thing that you guys are awesome at. I would say. This is derek by the way i would say. It's our communication actually and certainly during the last year of being a pandemic. it's it's been as important as ever. I don't wanna say now more than ever. Because i've heard that phrase billion times over the last year but it's true being able to communicate. I think has has been for me at least the one of the things that we are also because we're able to talk about how we're feeling during all of the like crazy stuff that's happened over the last year and Try to say that the communication has helped at least for me to know that anna has my back or is there to support me. And i'm there to support her when either one of us is going to a particularly difficult time so i would say communication and that was a really lengthy response which makes me wonder if i am good communication. No i totally agree. I mean i think that just kind of piggybacking a little bit. On what derek said. In addition to the the truth for me is that there's there's literally nothing. I can't say to him. I know that i can tell him whatever. I'm feeling however. I think i know that he is never going to judge me for it. There's so much trust and compassion. I think in the way that we speak to each other but then also a lot of laughter that spins something that has i think always been part of our relationship but like he said the last year in particular the fact that we can still laugh is just so important to me and i mean he. He literally makes me laugh every day. I wrote it into my vows to him the like. That's something that i always will treasurer about. Our relationship is that he's just hilarious and Can always put a smile on my face. So what would you tell someone from your own personal experience. Who doesn't have such good communication skills. It's thank for me. It's just finding a way to to start like having you're not gonna necessarily in my mind. Open the floodgates and solve that problem. But it would start with just trying to have that that i i guess acknowledgement like we have a tough time talking about things in picking something to try to talk more about to to get to know more about why it is that that there is a challenge and talking about something in china opened up. That would say something like you often. No that's okay. I mean. I think for me as a partner i feel like it's my responsibility to make sure that derek knows that he can talk to me in that. I'm not going to judge him something that when we have had conversations about maybe a particularly vulnerable topic. I tried to reassure him that there's literally nothing that he can say that's going to make me think a certain way of him and so i think sad as a partner. There's you know kind of taking the leap of faith to be communicative with your partner. But also to let them know that they are safe with you and that they can trust you to express themselves and be heard and not be judged for toyed. Better answer okay. Now what you night night night now night ninety you wanna tell us. What are you seeing from your professional perspective. First of all about her communication and then other people do also improve their communication. So number one i mean. I think it's great that you've made communication priority and that you can put anything on the table. Because i think that a lot. Sometimes we internalize our own assumptions. About what the other person is thinking or feeling maybe what they can or can't handle and then we might end up going around the issue and we don't actually resolve it because we're also not getting their perspective. What the issue is because we're putting all of our own stuff onto it so i think it's great that you guys have out of the gate really put that as a priority in also that trusting compassionate such a big part of your relationship on livings you said was that you have a tough time picking kind of figuring out what the challenges and sometimes. That's totally normal a lot of times we go into something something rubbed the wrong way. And it's not actually what happened. Maybe there's something else that triggered us. We need to talk it through to get to that point. I think it's great that you guys have created that foundation where you can do that on on the general sense i think that when it comes to communication the the most important thing to keep in mind is just to be open and let the process take its course because sometimes you're not gonna start off by saying you know when you did this. I felt that like sometimes you just don't have the privilege or the you know to to have that information from the start and that's really what that dialogue is therefore is to help you both kind of worked through that process to figure out what the issue is so you can move forward together so i think that's great that you guys have really prioritize that and You know whatever. You're trying to resolve something just the process of just communicate about it and see what happens in in those conversations as those things. Come up as those things flow. That's how you know that's gonna open up. That space to be able to identify with the issue is and you have space to trust compassion entrust and than. That's the perfect environment for that. I think that's great. I liked it too much to the news. I mean honestly can't say it any better than the expert awesome. Okay so what's one thing that's challenging for you. In terms of communication in terms of marriage. General ooh marriage in general Up for us. What comes to mind is that it had although like our communication has certainly been an acid over the last year. I think it's been a challenge just because we both had our normal routines as far as going chair. Yeah like knowing okay. This is like our separate time for jobs and everything has been combined together. Were were around each other every second of every day four. Yeah so. I mean it's it's been great because it has it has been a source of huge support. Like i don't know how would have gotten through it without having you with me this entire time but it's also been a challenge is making sure that we give each other space within a small space over an extended period of time so that i think that's been something that yeah that is a challenge. Yeah no i would agree with that. I mean could go last year probably has taught everybody just how small their living spaces might be a when your home all the time but i think that that's that's probably i think especially over the last year. The thing that we both had to keep in mind is that you know we do live in a relatively small space re both are working from home. I mean it was an adjustment for both of us. Because i already was working from home so i moved into her all right exactly so so there was like knee having to accommodate leaving some nice as suddenly is there and then for him. You know he'd a correct me. If i'm wrong but i would say that you definitely do kind of work home. You know you work for work. Home is for home. i. I've always tried to have pretty solid boundaries as far as like when. I'm in the office at work. When i'm at home i'm at home. And so those all those boundaries have long since been like blown clear out of the water. Yeah so. I think that an what i think we've tried to do over the last year. We've we go for walks alone. You know we try to give each other a little bit of a state you know i get out so he can have his time at home and then he does the same for me so then i have my time at home. We walked to talk together. But but i would say that that's important and then you know not. I mean i don't think in particular and has been issued. You know not taking it personally if you wanted just like have a little bit of time to yourself and it's it's healthy. It's healthy to have that. So so what do you think so i would has been sort of. The biggest challenge was like an external forests in your relationship has been this thing together. Twenty seven and now that is one of the hardest things it is you know when especially in a year. Were already working from home. So you had to renegotiate your working at home. Dandari's in your office boundaries. And then derek. You had negotiate what your own work in home boundaries for you guys can Tolliday that together. Can you tell me a little bit more though abou how that has been challenging the two of you as a couple and cumulative more about what's that has brought up for you I mean i guess for me. It's remembering that. Like i mean to to this is derek derek. Solid dare like eating a choice to do. And so i will be totally honest that like a me having worked from home for a couple of years prior to all of this happening you get a little territorial about having your space when you go into work mode and that definitely wasn't adjustment in for the life of me. I don't know why it took so long to figure out our workspace. I think because we didn't think it's gonna go on. I think i think that's true. I think that when the work from home thing started we thought it was going to be a couple of weeks and then a couple months and we didn't really really seriously start to i. Guess is the workspace the space that we have to create a separate working spy because we were just kind of schering like some days. You would use your desk. And other days i would use it the on of like move around. You really wasn't working friday last. Oh it didn't work so we just kind of took the dining area and converted that into just a fulltime desk and so now we each have like our separate areas to work and for me part of the challenges. Like i don't i don't know if i'm the same person at work that i m at home. It's almost like my mind. Goes into in some ways like a different frame of mind to engage in some of the discussions. That i have an attorney and so it's like a different. I hope. I don't talk to you anna. The i talked to. So that's that's part of it. That's part of the challenge in part of boundaries and trying to like make everything everything work i mean i will say that like you know again. This is like it. It just is what it is. It's not it's not anybody solved but you know because his now workspace is essentially an offshoot of our kitchen. You know like when it's lunchtime. And i wanna make something to eat. You know my comment. I know he's on an important call right now. And so like i have to like hold offset wanna make noise but then it's fine because what i'm those his. What am on those calls. Everyone else is dealing with the same thing. And i've been on many like quote unquote important calls. Where all here on one hand from somebody on the call. okay everybody. this is super confidential. Don't talk about anything and then you see like their did run through the background. And i'm like also i mean. I have far fewer types of interactions like that. I'm very rarely needing to take like a work call or work zoom. Or what have you. But i have found that one of the simplest things that helps me kind of just quite like figuratively but also literally shut off in tried to focus on what i need to accomplish in a certain days. I just shut the bedroom door. Your hand and that helps me kind of like recreate. The semblance of like my own space and i might still be able to hear him. I i actually still wear headphones. Because i just i need to have that that barrier reef. We're hopefully we are headphones so that we try. Try to not hear each other to be honest. So that's been just those little things to try to like recreate as much as possible like i mean. I don't wanna it. Sounds kinda hokey to put it this way but like just kind of your sacred space and having having your own space to yourself during the workday and then honestly like once once we're done for the day it does kind of shot off for me. You know when our time at night so when you said it's not derek's fall three has to be home. All the time that struck by was that he was so well put because Actually relate to a lot of what you said. I've always worked on end. So when quarantine hit. I was used to having my desk to my own office and then it was like well now. Everybody needs to use it s not. Everybody has to work. And it's like but it's my desk. I bought the desk. And i put the desk here. And i'm the one who needs to fly living room and it's hard to like i totally understand what you mean about. It can be a little bit territorial but at the same time. It's like you know you have your especially around work. The way that we work with. We do our work. It's likely have other professional obligations than we really have to make sure that that doesn't that that's kind of left untouched. That's always of moves forward. The way that a dozen so that it can be really tough to negotiate to renegotiate all of those boundaries. Between like all right well. I also we also need to have personal space. Sometimes you just need to be alone by ourselves to decompress to do our thing in so you know trying to uphold both ways to super important. Things may work in a relationship trying to balance all of those three things. Super heavy things at the same time is really really difficult in making. You've done a great job saying what like yes. It is frustrating. I can say that yes. It is frustrating. Not have my own space. And sometimes i just want to use volume and say you just want to use a desk but yeah it's recognizing that hey i fueled territorial and i'm having to adjust also being able to work together and the whole space for like. Yeah it's it's okay that you feel that way and it's okay that we're in the situation together and we're gonna work together to make it to find what works for both of us and i think i've seen that a lot especially pointing where it's like you don't i don't think anybody he thought it was going to go on for this long. It did and we don't think about how we where do we work. We don't think about those things and so having to sit down like relief collaborate on that in deciding. What's going to be best for both of us. Would you need from your environment and giving each other. You know not only physical space but then also to hold space for a To say what you need being able to compromising not rich other. I think is great. Thank you. I mean to derek's earlier point again like i don't know why it took us so long to just like reevaluate. I think you know it. You kind of just naturally go to. Okay here's a work desk in the only one work test so we'll just share that work thus get it. Seems like the most fair thing to do and and then it's like okay. Well this is going on longer than either of us anticipated in. That's when when we finally just kinda brought out of our like routine way of thinking and saying okay. This dining room table is no longer going to be a dining room table because even derek didn't have his dedicated space you know and so now now this is just literally his workspace and nothing else. I think we had got like an external monitor from work before like two days before the work from home started and that was kind of camped out in your does and so. That's not something that could be moved around easily. I think eventually we we realized the dimensions of this dining room table are pretty close to the dimensions. So we can just move stuff over and this little corner. The dining room will just become a little little office and really importantly for my work laptop and all the zoom meetings that i'm on for that lighting is really good i think. Hopefully i mean. I feel like we. Can't you know possibly be the only couple of to kind of think outside the box in figure out more innovative ways to make that space that limited space work and be able to try to share share. Say the word from me equitable. Think you probably took longer. Yeah we we got their. This is just me over thinking like totally type. Maybe you could tell me. Do you think show something about them. Nothing bad were just like as a sign of something else evacuate. I took them a little bit longer to figure it out. Obviously no knew how long it would take. And it's one thing if it's just for two days or a week or so but does that say something about the relationship. But i think it's totally natural because i mean we've never been put into this position before where we would have to consider those kinds of things and especially if you're used to like if you go into an office you just work at your desk and that's all there is to it and then when you work at home you can organizer environment how it suits you and you know most of the time we never have to think about it beyond that and so i think it's just a totally you know. It was just a new situation that came up. We don't you know when things like this happen. We don't realize that something needs to change until that gnawing feeling sometimes gets a little bit deeper in like okay. Actually something needs to change so no mean and some people are more particular about their workspace than others. And so you know it really just depends on what works for you and you know it. Sounds like you guys got to a point where you realize that something needed to change and then decided that right. Well we're going to change it. We're gonna take our words for us. So i think that is totally normal to. We know response to something like this. Yeah yeah totally normal just like you said. I guess it's more not so much the relationship but more about like their relationship to their actual workspace versus to each other. 'cause like i could think of some people who like i know that worked to them and they came on my right like no. They made a place for their partner. Not all that wants better wants worse but the just not neither speeds for work. They won't let their marriage in their marriage won't let their partner go in use their desk their space not to be mean but that's just because that's how they think so etc rather help them find different place that they could go and work which you guys afterwards did so. There's no like better worse. But i think it's more personality. Maybe relationship and it was really great about letting me into like into office. Basically letting us her desk and i consistently felt bad about taking the space that i knew was a place that was her is that she had put together that she used every day So even when we did a split where like every day we would kind of trade off. I didn't really like that. Because i still felt like i was kind of taking away. Her ability to focus. It wasn't really helping me with my ability. Focus and ultimately. I think what literally the straw was my back because i just couldn't. We're working from the dining table but it was still a dining room table. It was just set up an office chair. Nothing set up correctly so like being sometimes. There's this not timer a chance to like. I was so busy with work that it was difficult to actually set aside the time it acknowledge this might go on for a really long time. So what all of those things kind of coalesced. I just moved the table around into a corner. Instead i brought you and said hey check this out. What do you think i. Yeah i give credits you because definitely. I don't know if i would have even thought to like made that suggestion. The team measured haley. You'll see admit the democrat habit so having that section of our home completely rebound to be office at for says like ooh. I'm not so sure but it. It was completed the right call. And i'm glad that he prompted that broke their stock. But yeah i mean that's great like sometimes you just you don't know what works for your which you like until until you're in there and so i think it's also great that you both condition This is what i need. Now let me help you figure out what give you what you need exactly like. Salt right away in the beginning of kobe. Those people in good relationships relationships gypsy Better in those nevada ones just got worse so just a proof of it now. If there was a question what is a question that you always wanted to ask therapists. Ooh well i. I mean i i don't mean to have this whole conversation revolve around but i will admit i'm very curious. You know what the change in your kind of your work style has been over the last year because i can only imagine the new scenarios that have popped up. And you know i actually talking about this more in terms of Child development and that sort of thing but we were talking about how like development experts must be in real time trying to figure out how to deal with how children have been affected by all this. And so i'm assuming that as a relationship therapist. It's the same that in real time. You're trying to work with these couples that are facing problems that they've never had to face before. So do you mean like in terms of like my own personal worklife. For how i see this in the broader scope in how this has been affecting couples like in general to be honest. I'm fascinated by both whatever on the other one also. Okay take it in for my own work style. I because i've always worked from home. I realized that. I i used to think i was sharing person. Not that i'm not that is just when it comes to my work like i like things to be a certain way. I like to get up very early. I like to have my coffee. I like to read. I like to have like a very various way that i like to do things and it. Kinda messes my flow. When i'm not able to do that. And when covered. I chose was roommates and it was really frustrating. Me that had all these people on my workspace. And i couldn't just you know do what i wanted to do. But then i realized actually. I need to take responsibility for this. So all right. How can i set some boundaries about this. Maybe i can send different states by room. What do what actually helps me. Stay motivated. What is it that i usually during the day i would just kind of you know would work on this with him. I would work on that and just kinda. Take it as it comes. When you don't have those same you'll have in freedom to kind of go off and do your thing on my head to really hone in on. Like what do i need like. What's a workstation. i feel good. What do i what actually makes me feel productive in. How can i do that. And what do i need to do more would need to set boundaries around. I need to ask for and that really helped me to think about my own productivity and my own relationship to work and you know over with my partner right now and that was something that was really big difference for me because i never also share a room so good in my own room and so it also really opened up a lot of dialogue around like boundaries in spaces and he works very differently than me and so you know how can we kind of create both those environments within the small space that we have and that was actually really helpful also helped us to get to know each other better and to also to to collaborate insert communicate and work together on something that actually felt really nice and i do think that is something that i think a lot of struggling with because it is hard to wouldn't working on office we don't know what around really always hourly given the option for like i actually. I like to read for an hour before star work. Well that's like we can't do that in office when you're working from home. You can do that. You can kinda take your time and you have a lot more freedom but then within that we also have to ask. What do i want and sometimes if we're not really connected to that it can be easy to show like. Oh gosh no way. Why why am i not happy right now and inserting to projecting that onto our partner rather than taking ownership of will actually need to change my environment. And there's something that's not working for me but if we're not connected to that we're not really connected to ourselves in what we need in how we're actually feel. It can be very easy to project the other person especially when there are states from four hours a day interesting on a personal level now in a more general aspect would he think. Yeah i mean like i said. I think that kobe is really forcing us to ask ourselves what i want. And what do. I need in really taking for that. Because it's so easy to have those boundaries blurred and It's very easy to kind of feel like well kind of i mean kind of go to ways. Sometimes you know you might not be sure of what you need and then your partner is because maybe actually wants days and you can't. You're not you don't wear that. That's actually what's causing the issue. So you said earlier. He realized wait. It's not derek here all the time so you know if you had been aware of that maybe it could have been very easy to get angry with him or start to pick picket him or a start to get snippy with each other and kind of starts on each other's nerves that there's not actually. You're not actually going to the real source of the conflict. Right in the real source of the conflict. Is there something that i am not happy with run heavy. I'm feeling frustrated. I don't have enough personal space for. I am not comfortable working at this desk in a heart back. I don't like this you know. But if you're not communicating about it. And i think a lot of couples because we've not been in situations where these kinds of things come up when we haven't in it's very easy to lose boundaries even in a pre covid relationship you know is very easy to not have good boxers with your partner and the time where you're having to negotiate so many between your work between yours relationship you know how who taking care of the kids who was who's on thrive with making dinner and so they're all these more always different boundaries and expectations and needs that have to be negotiated. Now that didn't have to. I think that one of the biggest things that couples struggling with is that they've not been in a situation where they've had to to address that and so there's all of these frustrated viewings because it's not easy high. It's very frustrating to being stuck in your house regardless and then having another person there all the time they have to take into consideration can just make that even more difficult and if you don't know how to join together and you don't know how to identify what your own. Your own feelings are on how to work with each other to to work on that and to decide. This is what i need and this is what you need on. We work on those things together. that can be really really challenging. Yeah i always say that before. Communication comes off wariness. Because if you don't know what you need any currently go communicate that to your partner or anyone for that matter. Absolutely thrasher question. Oh yeah answers my question. Yeah my question is is similar but different and it starts from you know. We've we've talked about the fact a few times the know. We weren't sure how long it was going to ask. you know. it took a while to really get our our space something that really works best for both of us another. We have achieved that shortly. I will be going back into the office. And so i guess the question i have is. What advice would you have or for us now that we've kind of achieved some kind of equilibrium working together being around each other all the time. I don't know how much of a shock to the system it's gonna when we're certainly not around each other all the time. I i've been thinking about that a lot actually In heinz field. Because i'm like so used to you being home now. And i'm getting kinda sad about the idea of you being gone because i do think. Although it was under challenging circumstances. I feel very lucky that i got to spend literally an entire year with you every day. Pretty much all day so it's been challenging in some ways but it's been awesome and so now just when we got used to it. It's going to be going away to some degree. Yeah i know it's hard you spend twenty hours of somebody and then when they're not there it's like this is so weird gun in especially for you because you're gonna want to absolve the wound but i you being in the house and then you know because you're you're you sierra being everybody's having a change of environment and your environment thing fame you're going to be still be in the house so they can be an adjustment but i guess so. Let me let me ask you this. Though i guess the sort of what i'm hearing though is that actually waiting. I don't have a question back. So i guess you know you know what i'm hearing that you're gonna miss each other and you're not sure of what to do with that fewing once. The time comes for actually office and in a sense of you guys have brought a lot in relationships. You guys have gotten to know each other on a much deeper level. It seems like you guys have had to really help each other to learn things about your each other and also yourselves and to be there to support each other while you decide like would you want relationship with work beer. What kind of environment works for you. And how'd you manage your boundaries having those really raw conversations in being really communicative about that. And i think that you can definitely carry that over into the post. Covid world anna. If you're at home in your feeling like them. I really mistake. Well maybe there's can and you know. I likewise you know. How can you guys communicate with each other during the day. And how can you guys spend more quality time with each other outside of the office because even you guys are spending spending the day together. You're not necessarily really engaged with each other because you're working. So what would it look like for you to have a little bit more of that connection at night. You know you guys. Don't really watch tv or do you normally are. Maybe you do normally like cook together at you. Spend time planning a meal together. Do do together where you can spend more one on one time do you. Have you know how you really spend your time. So sometimes it can gay just because you're a quality over quantity. He's because you guys are not spending as much time together. It doesn't mean that you still can't have that same level of fulfillment with the quality that you spend quality of time lanes together. I mean i think one thing that i definitely think especially given everything over the last year that i'm looking forward to is the opportunity to get to do little trips together. That's one of my favorite things to do with him. We just started going to the beach to go for jogging. Yeah i mean now we we will just go for a drive and get some coffee and drive around on the weekends. There's not really i mean. Things are opening up a little bit more. But we're still pretty cautious and haven't really gotten for indoor dining or anything yet but yeah we will probably do some of those things i feel like. There's going to be an emphasis on us having the ability to do things out of the. Yeah because i mean by the time. I mean i still remember the days when he would come home from work was was kind of and i mean usually that left us with time for dinner and and maybe maybe an hour or two of just kind of relaxing and i mean we definitely Tv watchers shows. We have our shows. And and so that that i do consider quality time because we are engaging with each other. We're not just like like he. He might have his switch. And i might have my computer but we're constantly talking to each other watching the shows around So i think just making sure that we are so engaging. But also i mean if i'm being really honest i'm gonna have to get used to dealing lonely during the day in those first couple months when you're gone and just realizing that like that's just a transition. I'm going to have to make and get used to that. So that's probably something that i just have to kind of accept but also you know. Yeah i'll be so excited to come home and be be mindful of of making the most of that time and then also yeah. I definitely somebody who puts allowed into like planning little things. And having those fun things some summertimes coming up like derek said things are beginning to open up by us in so hopefully having some stuff to look forward to those on friday. Yeah we'll be fully maxed by memorial day so so looking forward to doing stuff together again but safe but safely you have any specific advice for annan how she could be a little bit less. Loan not like what you could do. The loneliness not play. how she handle it makes the most of it so you know right now. You're only looking forward to like stealing of sounds bad someone i meant to say it's thinking about the things that you're want to lose. I'm going to lose time with their. I'm not gonna spend as much time with him now but at the same time you're right now you're thinking about you're seeing that change which is a loss of time spent together by but there's also things you you said you were going to gain from that so it's going to kind of bridge that gap. You know you're gonna be docks needed soon. You guys can start going back on trips together. You know when you guys when dark comes home from work now would maybe you guys can spend more time sitting in a witness. When i cook for dinner you know what's a recipe that you guys always wanted to try. How clean really to give yourself something to To so it doesn't just feel like this loss or this thing that that's really the worst showing like you're losing something bigger not getting anything back and that's not true. You're getting a lot of things are going to be able to go out and going trips again. You're gonna be able to do indoor dining soon. You're going to be able to go out and do things that she used to love to do that. You have been able to for the last year. Everything has a season and everything has something positive. Sometimes things also have challenges too. So i think the biggest thing that you guys to work together is one of those things that she went to look forward to those gains that you guys are looking for to also not only what you have to afford to also. Are you guys to plan and create together. Because that's the biggest thing. Yeah i think even the fact of being excited are coming home. It's like a simple thing that you've been missing the past the oranges. I had so much to the relationship. Definitely okay so our final question question. That i asked everyone. How do you describe an extraordinary relationship without using love connection or intimacy due dot using love connection or intimacy. Okay wants to go first best friend. That's that's a good one. Okay so it is like breaking okay so you know it could be a word. It could be a phrase full book if you are okay. Yeah i i. I like concise answer. I would like go back to what i was saying earlier but i do think laughter is a big part of it because there's know as we kind of been talking about this entire time there has been a lot that's happened in the last year but then even just over the course of our relationship together. We've endured alive. You know we've endured the loss of loved ones. We've endured health challenges for both of us. And i think that what gets you through is being able to laugh together. I know not every moment is appropriate for laughing. But it really i can't. I can't emphasize enough. How important is to me. That i have somebody in my life who can make me feel joyful and can make me forget when. I'm having a really tough day or really tough. you know. Monks her you know. What have you. And i feel beyond grateful The person in my life has that capacity to to to make me feel happiness. Even when really. I don't i don't wanna feel that way like i just feel very appreciative of what he's able to do. And that's part of the reason why he's everything to me. I didn't use the word but it a different way. Every just your life and you hear my turn. So i'll give you some more between a quote in a book so a lot of about this. Think about what really makes extraordinary relationship to me. It's not about this connection but it is not only that was specifically is how you help each other. How you instant how you influenced each other and who you influence each other to be and who you help who you are as a result of the relationship and also how you think really an extraordinary relation makes us wants to be better roundly for ourselves but also to the are best for the other person and recognizing that and growing and adopting a so you can become closer so that you can you know so that means that word so that that bond that you have will strengthen but then also you can be there for that person when they need you and understand. Hey you know what my partner really needs. My partner shows better. When i can be there and help them make them laugh and they're having a bad day. Okay well how. Can i know how committed provide that with them. Is there something about the way the maximum that might make a little bit more difficult. Or how can i be there and show up for them. And i think know getting to really understand each other on deep level and to. Yeah i think being able to understand each other on a deep level and then also to help each other out albatross. Be the person that she wants to be also to be inspired by each other to be somebody even better. I love that. So much is a great overview. This is amazing episode. Thank you so the will thank you. I need this has been so interesting. Nadia i really appreciate you being able to come into the spine be able to like you. You have said so many things. That have i mean especially when you talked about there being a season for everything that release stock with me and i just really appreciate you taking the time to kind of talk with us about where we are in our lives and i really appreciate your expertise in just the time and attention that you gave to us today. So thank you for that. Thank you so much. Thank you were coming up. Thank you for trusting me with us. I really appreciate it. I had a great time at a great time with you guys. I think you guys are doing and excited to see how everything goes through in this post. Covid world police officer while an s you so much for having on it's been our honor to to be part of it. Thank you for choosing us too. I'm sure you have to so many options. So thank you for choosing us to be part of your show really appreciate that again like the time and attention that you put towards us so that awesome thank you so much guys are really enjoyed. Speaking with all of you is really interesting to see. Just what you thought an idea of derek and anna and how awesome. They aren't really hold out. The good parts of them loose will be an interesting world. And i think this gave a lot of insight to off of.

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How Derek Sivers Built CD Baby & the Wonder that Followed

Don't Keep Your Day Job

52:25 min | 1 year ago

How Derek Sivers Built CD Baby & the Wonder that Followed

"I think you just have to trust that. Standing out of what other people are doing usually beneficial. You have to try to find out but almost always it's going into work in your favor. I believe that the opposite of depression. It's not happiness its purpose. I believe that every single person has something unique to contribute to the world. And that's why I wanted to create a show called. Don't keep your day job. Don't keep your day. Job is about out figuring out what it is you work to do in this world that only you can do to make the world more whole more beautiful and to stop selling yourself short. Stop sitting getting it out to figure out how to take this thing. Love whether it's art or music or screenwriting dance of baking and how you leave this the Nikolov into a life that you you get contribute that you get to do it love full time because it's not just about business it's about contribution it's about meaning that is what we seek. That is what we truly want and Absolute we are here to serve the world and I want to help you figure out just how much value you have inside of you every single week. We're going to be talking to people who have have something to add to help you get out of the way to help you be more successful to help you be the truest expression of you. My name is Cathy Heller. I'm so glad that you're here. Let's dive in thanks to skill share for supporting. Don't keep your day job. Join the millions of students already learning Today with a special offer just for my listeners. Get two months of skill share for free the at skill show dot com slash dream job to. Hey guys it's Cathy Heller. Welcome back to another episode of. Don't keep your day job so I can't believe leave that the Christmas is almost here. The New Year's almost here I just can't believe how quickly this year has gone by and This past weekend a special for us because December twentieth is our ten year anniversary and it was really cool to just really stop up and take note of what's happened over ten years and I feel like Gosh I feel like it's one of the the biggest accomplishments arriving here you know like marriage is. It's the biggest work. It's the hardest work. That's where all of my stuff comes up and and if you're in a relationship you know what I'm talking about and I just feel you feel so grateful that my husband and I have always always been doing the work to try to figure out like what comes up and how to make it better and recently. I told you guys that I went on this week. Long Program Graham to really look at my stuff and try to heal and grieve and overcome and just have more of an ability a to be who I really am and be present and let go of whatever is not serving me and I went to this place called onsite outside of Nashville and my husband also went on that program but separately and it was just very very life changing lifesaving just incredibly deep deep work. You're basically in there for a week. In any case we had this beautiful anniversary gathering with just a very few friends sounds very intimate. Very sweet and My friend Carol was there and Caleb her boyfriend Caleb Campbell is just awesome as they were leaving he said. I just want honor both of you for doing the work on yourself and you know tonight you both talked a little about you. Know what you're working on and what you WanNa do going forward into the next ten years of your marriage but he said that work that you're doing to deal with your own in pain in your own passed and making yourself into the best version of you in dealing with whatever has been in the way he said that's really such a gift here children because because they're gonNA only be able to go as far emotionally as they see you go in. It's an incredible credible gift to give them to to set that example so that their work down the road they've been in. This path has been paved and And just feel so grateful that he said that and it was really just a beautiful evening and We had a little bit of a ceremony where we kind of renewed our vows and said some really beautiful things. We lit ten candles ten years married and we each said one thing that we felt the other person brought into our life and I said that my husband had brought worthiness to me. He was the first person who really made me feel worthy to be loved for exactly who I am. You didn't need me to be impressive. Impressive or entertaining or to make money or to have my hair blown out. He just gave me love and I didn't have to earn Senate and he shared that I helped him feel seen in that he thought I brought into his life sense of expansiveness celebration and on purpose and that was just so beautiful. And then I hire this beautiful woman who came over to teach us all dance class and we had like ten couples goals and we danced to Frank Sinatra and Michael boulay and Stevie wonder at Earth wind and fire. It was so great I had so much fun. So that was this past weekend. Thanks for indulging me Couple announcements I'm going to be in the northeast. I'm doing a book signing next Sunday. The Twenty Nineth in Montclair New Jersey. which is really close to New York City and it is such a cute town? If you've never been to Montclair it's adorable. Bobbi Brown makeup artist Bobby Round. She lives there. It is gorgeous and The book signing is out. watchung booksellers in Montclair. I will be there on Sunday. December twenty ninth at four. PM is a free event event. I will be there giving out hugs and sell fees and I will be doing a little speaking in lots of it's free but we do have limited space and we already. We have a lot of people coming. But there's a little space left so there's an event bright link in the show notes. I will also posted event. Bright Link in the INSTAGRAM. And on the don't keep facebook facebook group so go ahead and let us know. If you're going to be there I look forward to seeing you and signing your book giving you a hug and all the rest Also I'm doing a huge dude giveaway which ends tonight. I'm giving away a thousand dollar Gift Card to target all you have to do to enter. The giveaway is going over to my instagram and Dan you will see. There's a really cute image of a cat and it says I knocked down the Christmas tree anyway in the caption of that. INSTAGRAM post is all the the details but really all you have to do is leave us review for the podcast so if you already left her view great just let us know you left US review. Go leave us a review in send us a screen shot of your review review in my instagram in my DM's and then you get an extra entry if you buy a book for someone for the holidays if you buy one of my books for someone for the holidays you get two entries and and yeah. I'll be announcing the winner tonight. So December twenty third. I'll be announcing the winner and I'll be giving somebody thousand dollars every single one of you. Who sends me a DM? The screen shot will also get a personal. Thank you and Yeah it's easy to enter Review and if you like the shell leave us a review. It's a good time to do it. It's a great Hanukkah Christmas gift to give to me to go ahead and leave US review so I would love it if you did that annual enter the giveaway also also Thursday's episode is GonNa be a big celebration of all of you and all of the strides you've been making so many of you have already sent us your wins which is so cool and thank you. If as you're thinking wait I can send in a win. Then great were still taking it and we love to hear it coming straight from your voice so you can record voice memo on your phone or you could just email mel us. The story of what you've been up to hello at. Don't keep your day. Job Dot Com. Either email us at voice memo or just type it up and let us know what's been going on with you you can use is the subject line twenty nineteen win and you might just hear yourself on Thursday show today on this episode. We were released special conversation. I got to sit down with the incredible Derek. Sievers Diversity's a writer entrepreneur Ted Speaker and he's also been a musician producer and circus performer. He founded the company. CD Baby which some of you might know if you're in the music world it's the largest online distributor of independent music in the world and it actually plays a really key role in my own career. I'm going to go into some of those details when I talked to derrick but in many ways I don't think this podcast would have happened without it. Derek is such a student of life. He has so much wonderment for so much of what goes on in this planet being a human. If you WANNA take a look at what he's exploring you can check out his sight savers dot org or you can listen to his Derek sievers. podcast what I love about Derek. Is that. He's so present he's not here to talk about business in strategy because he knows that it's also much bigger than that. It's about finding what fulfils you. What brings you purpose? What what makes you feel like you're really making a deep lasting contribution and I just love that so I can't wait to hear what you guys think about this? We also recorded this on video so if if you want to check it out we have a link to that in the show notes without further ado. Please welcome the awesome Derek Derek you so much really. Thank you so much for making the time to be here today. Thanks Kathy I told you that it's because I'm not here to pitch anything. I'm only here because I really love what you're doing and and I got to tell you that the first thing that caught my attention was just the fact that you use the term day job because I was in my forties. The first time I met that somebody that didn't know the Term Day job. I said something about day job. And they said what's a day job and it made me realize the day job is a term that it does creative types thing. It's like there's the thing you're doing for money and there's the thing you really love but there are a lot of places in the world where that whole concept is. Just oh my gotTa love you just unpacked it like that. Because it's actually not about business it's about doing your life's work and feeling like you are seen so I I love that. You're you're the first person that really got that and thank you but I'm not surprised because everyone who knows you and if you know him you know he's just one of those very very genuine people and so I want people to hear your story because not everybody knows at. Can you tell us like the whole journey they evolution of Derrick Eric. Okay so when I was fourteen I decided I wanted to be a professional musician like seriously decided like I said this is it. This is is what I'm GONNA do. Yeah and so because of this I knew since I was fourteen like I'm never going to have a job. I'm never GONNA have insurance or a salary or a boss or pension or all these things that some people just take a given in life so I think I started preparing for the hustle. If you know what I mean when I was fourteen where do you think that comes from. That's pretty young to know who you are not like. It was a vivid in complete vision. It was always the doing it was like put a guitar in my hand. Found the distortion pedal. Oh yeah this is the soul so age seventeen. I went off to Berklee the College of music in Boston but starting from what has eighteen yet. That's when I got my first GIG with a circus so for the next eleven years I was a full time. MM professional musician. So at the age of twenty nine I was selling my CD on my Benz website but times were different than like there wasn't even pay pal. Amazon was just a bookstore and so there was literally not a single business. That would sell your CD. If you're a musician trying to sell you see so. I built this little website to sell my CD and was it already called. CD Baby No. It was on my bands website. It was like a buy now button on my bands website. And so there was this Guy Marco the Saadi a Finnish Guy Musician I knew that said can you sell my cd through. Your band's is website. And I thought I'd never thought of that. But sure okay. I just did it as a favor to Marco but then I got a call from Rachel who's said Hey Marco said you could sell my CD on your side. Is it okay for you Rachel. And then I started getting calls from strangers friends friends so it wasn't until I had about like ten or twenty albums uh-huh on my bands website that I finally said I think I need to give this thing. Its own name. So that's when I call it. CD Baby So. I accidentally started this business us but it pretty quickly became the largest seller of independent music on the web. At the time I think a couple million customers summer is it eventually. I had eighty five employees giant warehouses and all that amazing. How long how long until it really took off? Was it like within months known for about four years very often I meet people who like start their dream idea and there are a few months into it. It's just not going well. It's been a few months. It's like come on like I was like three years into CD baby. It was still just like me and a guy in my house like it was really took off till our years. You gotta give things time time anyway. After ten years I felt that I had just personally had enough like I had surpassed all of my dreams and vision for. Yeah just kind of feeling personally done it felt like I had been painting this mural for ten years and I just felt like. That's it I've got nothing more to add so so it was time for me to leave so that was in two thousand eight. I sold the company and just kind of went exploring different ways of approaching life. That's so cool that you continue to explore more of yourself I feel like we are so multidimensional on sometimes we. We have the zone of excellence and people were like. That's it for you. That's amazing and it is amazing and it's genius but then there's even more right and you you giving yourself a gift to keep exploring that. So what did you find. We'll hold on. Let's let's use a musical example so ACDC maybe great but they did like exactly one thing for forty years it it basically you know the the first song they wrote sounds like the last song they're like it's almost like they made the same album every year for forty years and people loved them for it so some people really truly find what they love doing at some point and they say like this is it. I'm going to do this one thing until I die. Yeah and that's great. That's just that's a certain in personality type that does them. And then you have in the musical comparison somebody like Madonna. That wants to keep trying different things. Some artists like David Bowie and Paul. Simon like made a really deliberate change. So it's each album was almost as self contained personality. It's like now I am ziggy stardust. As to you know now I'm the thin White Duke. Now I am post-punk Paul. Simon did that I think. Is You know graceland album and then rhythm of the saints game so anyway so I think think I'm more like the ladder. I like to do things for a little while and then challenge myself to do something completely different. So that's just my personal take. I don't think that people I love it. Yeah and I I see you is like a spokesman for all the creatives and all the broken souls who wanna feel like they fit in i. I feel like you've found a place as like this hero of of all the misfits who the people who have all this yummy stuff and they did a tedtalk which true so awesome weird or just different. Oh and your book is the just like the simple truths about not getting caught up in the fear not getting caught up in needing to be the sky in a suit but like embracing these parts of you you know so. I feel like one of the biggest turtles like just in life in general is like a tremendous amount of self doubt and fear and the feeling of like. I'm not enough like who am I to start something. So so how do you help. People work through that. Well some of it. I think you shouldn't ignore your doubts. So some some of it should be heeded your emotions house some wisdom in them so if your emotions are telling you I'm not ready yet. Then you could choose to take that as a sign that you're not ready yet and you need to practice some more until you feel like hell. Yeah I got this like if if somebody's feeling like they're playing too small for example I think it it might just be a matter of the amount of time you're investing it it like you might just be spread too thin so think there might be people who think they want to do something. They've dabbled in it and they're feeling insecure about it. Of course you're feeling insecure. You haven't put in the time yet. Like imagine alternate scenario where you would wake up at six. Am every day and do this one thing from six am am to midnight that. What is that he hours eighteen? You do this one thing for eighteen hours a day seven days a week for six months at a time. There's no way at the end of that six months you would feel that you don't know what you're doing because it's just a matter of time like you have to put in the hours and put in the real work and yeah give yourself the Education Asian but also just give it the focus so I think this kind of laser focus can make all the difference in the world do you. Have you heard that metaphor of the sunlight on a log versus the magnifying glass. There's a metaphor that sunlight on a log. Doesn't make log catch on fire but if you hold up a magnifying glass to concentrate the Sun's light into a single point on the log. You can make the log catch on fire with magnifying glass. Yeah the metaphor being bit if your energy is dissipated across a lot of things things get. Nothing's going to catch fire. But if you concentrate all of your energy on a single point on a single thing something's going to catch so I think people are usually spread too thin doing too much. It's such a good point. You're not on the mastery path. Yep You're trying to see everything but it's such it's a simple clear direction. And one thing I wanna ask you. In terms of finding your own sense of fulfillment. Because does you did pivot and started to do that. You did started to focus your time on building. CD Baby and you had said early on. I WanNa be a rock star. And then you built a multimillion dollar company. So how did you do that without feeling like I sold my soul I gave up. Yep well the time when I did that thing where I was selling my CD in friends asked. Can you sell mine and this thing started happening by that point. In my life I had been touring non stop for like twelve years twelve and I was starting to get a little sick of it like I. It was starting to think. Thank mold game for the same amount of money. It's not like I was going up so I had achieved a certain amount of success by measure. I think that this helped to that as a professional professional musician like I bought my house in Woodstock New York with the money. I made touring as a musician. is like that's kind of like I was pretty happy. Bought a house. Yeah yeah so I was already feeling pretty good with what I had done and I was starting to feel kind of bored with what I was doing so when this new thing came up at first I was belittling it. I I said okay this this little. CD Baby this is my hobby. Like I'm really pursuing doing music. But then I found that's like as I was learning about databases and learning html. And all that it was fascinating. It's like how how intellectually stimulating is it to get in the van and drive six hours to do another GIG versus that same. You know fifteen hours round trip spending learning sql and learning programs like my brain was sparking more than it had in years. I was like this is so exciting. So I think I welcomed it intellectually early but I mean I did have a lot of coming to terms with letting go God. That's a whole subject. We could get on letting go. Oh of goals. I've been thinking about this a lot lately. I just a few weeks ago. gave away all of my musical equipment. It fell fat but no this is this is good. This wasn't a sad thing. It was actually pause sentence. The word decide died. The Latin root of the word side means to cut off on pause resume so up until a few weeks ago I had had felt conflicted like every. I'm sitting here answering emails working on my book doing something techy and I'm like and I'm loving what I'm doing doing but every day I kind of look over at my piano or over it might guitars and I'm thinking I'm not balanced. I really want to spend more time doing doing music but it was. I have a concept that says that your actions reveal your values better than your words so no matter what you say you want to do your actions show what your values really are. You can say all you want. But if you're not doing it I. I think you don't really want to do it that much so I had been saying for the longest time I want to spend more time making music. I want to spend more time working on songs. I think think I did one of those like right. I'm going to get serious about this. I'M GONNA start budgeting time. I'm going to turn off my computer every night at this time and spend this hour to this hour only doing music and as soon as I thought that way the first thought that came into my head was all but that's time I could be spending doing something better. Whoa what did I just think like doing doing something better? I think music has fallen down in my hierarchy without me realizing it and so I just kind of have this well I I've thought about it for a second. I was like what if I just gave keyboard into guitars to my friend. It's a professional musician would feel great so yeah a few weeks ago. I gave it it to my friend. WHO's a full time professional musician here in Oxford England and he was thrilled and he was so thrilled? That was a nice studio monitors too. He Goes Oh my God yes I just gave him everything and he uses it every single day. And I'm like okay all is right in the world. It felt liberal. God you literally like Are you just brought me to tears because I used to be a musician and then I started like you because of the CD baby podcast. Other artists aren't asking asking me if I could help them license music. That was what I started doing and They would thank you so much for being this. Like empathetic I land in the storm. You know I loved it so much so I just poured myself into helping these artists and host a big event once a year for few hundred artists. Now and it's just grown this beautiful thing and then I started a podcast helping all kinds of creative and wrote a book and there's been a part of me that's like all did you sell l.. Your soul like. Aren't you supposed to be playing music. And when you just spoke such truth to me it reminded me you remember that movie. Field of dreams with Catalina Awesome. Yeah remember they do the game again and this guy who had to give up baseball to become a doctor there like you're going to get to play with the Maggio and like Lou Gehrig and this is your chance you were supposed to be in the in the major leagues and you got pulled back home and you became a doctor. so He's like awesome. I'M GONNA get to do my dream. I'M GONNA get to be on the field and he goes is out for the game and while they're in this beautiful fake baseball game with the greatest legends of all time from baseball. This little kid falls from the stands and needs a a doctor and just before he gets to get up to bat. They're like is anyone a doctor and he runs back and he doesn't play. I forgot about that. Wow l. nice comparison Kevin Costner goes. Aren't you devastated. And he goes no he goes. I wouldn't have been able to be Dr all these years. You know. I've gotten to a doctor and it's like this. What you just said especially coming from you is so important to me because I think so many artists we we don't know like? Are we supposed to give this our entire life and if we don't if that means we're not going to get seen or not going to be true to ourselves and then you had this opportunity for tuning that just kind of was so organic or other souls. Could you help me and you go. I guess I could and then another one I guess I could and then you go. Wow how I'm helping all these people right and I really like it and does that make me less of a self and that is just such an important thing thing. I think the greatest human need keep saying it but I feel like the greatest human need is people wanna feel seen really when it comes down to what I've also noticed that the opposite opposite of depression isn't happiness its purpose and so somehow when we help other people feel seen and we give to other people that's like the greatest feeling and then you do feel l. seeing right yeah you're also more directly helping I'm going to tell one side tail and then connected to my tail again okay. Berkeley College of Music. My roommate was trumpet player. WHO dropped out? After one year to go to engineering school. We lost touch and then like eight years later. I'd the ran into him in a parking lot. I was like man and he goes Derek. Sotoudeh what's going on doing and we hadn't talked in eight years and he said well. I was an engineer for five years. I made a lot of money and it felt pointless. He said so. I quit it and I went and got a degree in nursing. I've been a registered nurse for the last year in like dude. It is the most rewarding thing I've ever done instead of making less money. Any pre said every single day. People say thank you like. I'm helping people's lives in like a concrete way and people like grabbed me by the hand and say thank you so much. He said this means way more to me than like income from engineering. He said I'm like never been happier. This is amazing so I felt the same thing with going from being an artist. kind of pushing my own. Styling being an artist. WHO's kind of a weird thing? Isn't it like it's all very like me. I'm I'm here. They like me me me me. It's very one sided. It's all like rip it out. Push it out rip out push it out so then to suddenly be helping. Other musicians felt to me like my friend going into nursing like every day people like thank you thank you so much. It's like nobody had said thank you before four for me cueing myself into the world so yeah it was. It wasn't that conflicted felt a little weird at first but I could just feel a a energy. That's amazing so let me ask you this. Because there's so many makers so many artists that are still going down that path Autho wake I will just WanNa make living just people paying me for my music. How can they get some of this? How can they leave some of this radical empathy into their life? What would that look like? I feel like artists feel like either. I'm going to get paid to just write what I write or just forget it. I guess I'll have to get a day job. What what I would advise to musicians wanting to make this kind of leap is to not think you need to be Cathy? Heller not thinking need to be derrick favors or anybody else but just pay close attention to your past actions like notice what you naturally naturally gravitate towards doing and not saying you want to do but actually doing you in fact I think you need to actively I forget your past words like be disloyal to your past proclamations just because you announced something to the world. Good once doesn't mean you need to stick with it for the rest of your life so no matter what not so good no matter what you say. You're interested in doing no matter what you you have said you will do. Look at what you actually tend to do when you're at your best then. You just have to wholeheartedly embrace that like this says later. This is what I like doing. Yeah Well Yeah I realized that for me all my music was really about like just this prayer that people would feel like they matter and and I realized that's really what I wanna do is get that across. It doesn't have to be their music even though I was told as a child. That's the thing that makes you unique is that you can write. I just song But there was so much more that I wanted to do. I love this conversation but before we go on. Let's just take a quick break. Something that amazes me about Derek is how much he strives to learn and keep growing. And I think that's ultimately what has made him so fulfilled in so successful. That's why I love. Having skill share skills online learning community for the Creator and all of us providing adding thousands of amazing classes covering dozens of creative and entrepreneurial skills like designed productivity and more for busy person like me. It's really convenient because classes are on on demand so you can learn at your own pace so get inspired. Join a class and create something. You'RE GONNA love one class that I found really helpful called productivity today managing attention in the digital age I can get super distracted with hundreds of notifications on my phone and in the New Year. I'd love to be able to stay more focused on finishing the task at hand. If you're already a pretty great productivity tiffany and you want to add a different tool to your kit you can check out classes in music production entrepreneurship marketing. There's so much good stuff to choose from join the millions of students already learning unskilled sharing get two months free when you sign up at skill share dot com slash dream job to. That's two months. Unlimited access to thousands of classes for free good skill share dot com slash dream job to to sign up that skill share dot com slash dream job to. I also WANNA give a shout out to our friends at self helpless. PODCAST if you enjoy. Don't keep your day the job. We think you're really going to enjoy the south helpless podcast three Taipei Comedians. Taylor Tomlinson Kelsey Cook and Delaney Fisher candidly dive into all things self-improvement they cover everything from anxiety sanctuary too bad breakup. It's completely uncensored and they often have special guests and health experts on the show to drop some knowledge. Find Self Helpless US wherever you listen to podcasts. And you can visit self helpless podcasts Dot Com for all other information. I was so delighted to be guests on their show about a year ago. I had so much fun with them. They are so genuine and so funny and they made me feel such a rock star when I went there because they're like we love your show. We're totally fan girling. And it was just so cool to hang out the also had them come to the dream Topi event last year. Because they're just so awesome so go ahead and check it out and let me know what you think. When people are are persevering and and looking for their path and the doors not opening how do you know when you have to just keep persevering and how do you know when it's this door is not your door? It's not going to open yet go. Oh finding different door. I think we mistake persevering for doing the exact same thing over and over which is kind of like you've got the wrong key to the lock and you just keep you gotta just keep at it. No no no you need to find a different sprint way. Like you need to persistently keep trying different things until you get what you're after. So here's a great example My friend Maria hitter. I met her when she was an artist on CD baby. She had a day job at the Music Connection magazine for a number of years doing ad sales wall while full heartedly pursuing her solo artist. Career So after a number of years she came to this conclusion that she has given it her. All music is and what she really loves doing is just plain to crowds. She likes being on stage singing the crowds. She realized it didn't didn't even need to be her music and so she realized that she was so happy being on stage singing journey and whatever other like eighty eight and yeah she just made this decision. She likes shutdown her artist career as a solo artist. And she's now her band. Dan has been gigging every single Friday or Saturday night for years old. Yeah Yeah I'll tell you really quick thing that I think that you'll find interesting so I was signed to interscope for five minutes. I was there for a few months. And I was with Ron Fair. And he says I want to tell you a story he says years ago I was trying get my legs as a songwriter and I had a meeting with Bill Conti. Who for those of you listening? Who Don't know he wrote the music to rocky and all these other iconic movies and he goes? I'm sitting with him. I play my music. And he says Snee- Ron. You're a good songwriter. He says thanks he goes. But you're an excellent producer. Just think about that because you're really a good producer. And he said to me. In that moment I felt like I was punched in the Gut because I wanted him to think I was like an amazing songwriter and I was going to be a rock star and he gave me an incredible gift because he was kind. He wasn't nice he was kind and he said you're an excellent producer and he said I made a decision and the word. I made a decision. I was going to double down and six x down and ten x down on being a producer and I am so glad I did and I was like. Can you know so I love what you're saying. Let's talk about your podcast. What made you want to start a podcast? So I write articles articles from my side. I'm called essays articles or blog posts. Head thank you. But they're very succinct but I know there are a lot of people who have long drives drives and or walk their dog hour a day and they really just prefer to listen not read so I've been meaning to do this for years yet. And that's this audience. Let's talk about the substance of what inspires you to write these essays and and really. What sort of the is there a theme? Is there something that you really want people to walk. Walk Away with which is why you show up and do those often will. I found out that the word essay comes from the French word the French verb essay which means like to search or to discover to explore and so usually I privately I sit down to write like that like hours a day so at worst on a bad day I write for three hours a day on a good day I write for like fifteen hours and I spent hours and hours a day exploring thing my thoughts on a subject. Sometimes I'm reading a book on something and I think that the author has come up with a brilliant point. But I'm not satisfied to just echo that that point of ingested and take it in and see what I think of it myself or I just haven't experienced in life try to find the the common threads of something that just just happened to be to kind of explain it to myself. I'll just spend hours in my diary asking myself questions and then answering those questions and then most importantly certainly questioning my answers. So that's my favorite step is going beyond my first reaction and questioning my first answer like what am I doing here. I'm making music. Why am I making music? Because that's really important to me. Is it really important to me. You know you you have to do that. Then you have to question in your own answers. You have to put a question mark on the end of your statements or on the end of your previous statements so that you start to doubt them and question them that way you you get to explore it a little deeper. That's when you get on the the more interesting like second and third level stuff. So you're not just skimming the surface like now you go underwater. Yeah you're looking at the corals else so most of my writing is just my personal explorations like that but then so I spend hours being verbose in my own. Dari and so when I come across something I think is really interesting and worth sharing. Then I edit the hell out of it until it's it twenty sentences I think capture the essence of this thing in one minute part of the reason I keep my writing eating and podcast so short as I do read a lot of books and I often feel bad when the author has a brilliant idea. It's like on page two hundred seventy Andy. Three of a four hundred page book and I know like come on how many people on Earth they're going to notice. Hey brilliant idea so I have a theory that says that each idea deserves its own spotlight and so that's why I really like writing articles as it's one idea the at a time like if I have to ideas on something I'll save that second idea for another article like each idea gets its own little spotlight. I love it I was GONNA and ask you like if you had to sort of boil down like I'm Derek simmers and this is what I want people to know like. What would that thing be? I I got a disagree with the the one thing with the I'd refuse if I caught myself feeling like I had one thing to share with the world then I I think I would stop and do something else like. That's just my nature. I like being an explorer. I'd I think so. I'm going to start publishing books next year just about one year ago. I had a moment where I kind of. I think I'm a writer Yeah I would say up until a year ago I really felt like. I'm an entrepreneur and programmer. That every now. Wow and then if I find something worth sharing I might write it up on my blog and it was about a year ago. I did an interesting thought experiment where I asked myself. Who who are my heroes and this is just me privately my diarrhea? I wrote for an hour about this. After I was done I looked at this list of thirteen. Eighteen people as well every single one of them is an author like these are my heroes and I said well. I think this is an indication indication of which direction I'm facing if this is the direction I'm looking up. I think this is the direction on facing such a cool exercise. Wow I never thought to do that. Now that I've just recently realized that I'm an author now I'm taking it more more seriously and my goal is that every time I have a book out. I don't want people to be able to predict what it's going going to say. So that's what I meant. It's like if I felt like I have one message to the world. I think okay well. Then it's time for the next one and okay so let me ask you the question in different way in this moment in the season when you're thinking and working on this next big project the book right what what's really leave feeling like it's weighing on your heart like this one of the big messages. I want to get out. There are so many ways to look at things from different angles. I I think of it. As like a gem with many facets I and I think there's a different way to look at almost anything in life and they're all true. It's not that one is correct. It's just a matter of which one is. You have to you right now. So if it's useful for you to believe that you're going to die tomorrow because that's what it it takes to get you to do something you need to do. Then the fact that you're probably not going to die tomorrow and you could sable that's not true. It doesn't matter if that belief is useful to you right now. I think it's so much more interesting thinking about what's useful not what's true that's current fascinating and what I'm currently fascinated just being in your presence is how present you are. It's really unique. Take to be that way. Let me just tell you and you are such a true original. You feel like you are unapologetically. You and I feel like you doing that. One one thing that I would say is your one of your big messages just by being you is that that gives other people permission to be unapologetically them and you being you is a big gift. So when someone's feeling like Oh gosh you know I'm not perfect and it's GonNa be messy if I'm not prepared I gotta I gotTa gotTa know what I'm going to do in the moment. What's your advice for people to sort of generate more of that self that presence of like not needing to predict it not into be formal not needing to have it all together? I think that that's I think perfectionism and planning and I think so. Many people get so stuck on this formality and on on the preciousness of the per- The perfect plans. What's your advice on that? This isn't advice but just an observation. Okay God that I think that when you're thinking like a music artist wanting to put yourself out into the world you constantly think about what differentiates you. You don't want want to be like other people it's almost like your mission not do what others are doing even marketing wise. There's a cute story in it's on my my site search for captain t on Sievers Dot Org on my site and you'll hear the story about when I was helping a friend market his album to college radio back in the day I had gone and visited some college radio stations and I saw all these colors. Radio stations were getting like Manila envelopes with with CDs arriving at the station. So I said okay. We need to not do that like what everybody else is doing. Let's do the opposite so we took this hilarious. Larry thing where we felt like these jet black and blue rub them dirt and wrote like a ransom note inside. And you know that's what we used and got a ton of attention and still to this date my friend. Who who is the artist captain? t-that still come up to him and go to your Captain T. I worked at a college radio station twenty years ago. And that was the coolest CD we ever got. That's odd the different and so I think we can do that with ourselves too so I think I have a natural rebellion that if everybody's being this kind stiff know it all trying to do this puffery to make themselves look like a brilliant pundit then just naturally I'm going to you Republicans that and do the opposite. I think you just have to trust that. Standing out from the crowd and doing the opposite of what other people are doing is usually beneficial. Yeah you have to try it to find out but almost always it's going to work in your favor. Everything is so good. I'm so excited for you and the books and the things and and and the WHO knows because that's the way you are and you guys are so much more of him out for you to soak up from Ted talks to all the essays and you can listen to those on the podcasts. If you don't feel like reading and you WANNA listen but Derek. Thank you so much for all of this time and all of you. I got so much personally out of your courage your courage bridge and that story about how you recently made this decision see. That's what's so cool. Is that fear. People always say like Oh you know. Fear is something contagious and spreads but courage is also contagious and see your self realization winds up being something that then lights the way for other people people. Oh thank you for doing that. Deep Work because you just gave me gift today thanks Kathy. It's amazing I'm so excited about it really like wow. Oh Wow. I didn't know I was coming to get that. Tell us where we can find you. Oh just go to civilized dot org. It's all there I'm kind of. I don't know if you call call it old school or again if it's just rebellious that I just keep all of my stuff on my own site. I've even just decided to self publish my next few books looks kind of feeling kind of diy rebellious right now. Like I'm kind of thinking I won't even sell through Amazon. I think I'm just GONNA kick direct So anyway go to CVs dot org the era. That and I really would love to just follow up with you and maybe oh comeback. When that book comes out I would love to chat with anytime I I love? I love your such jam. Thank you so much for today. Thanksgiving I love talking to Derrick. He so great to hear the takeaways. The number one let each new creation have its own personality number two if your energy is dissipated among too many things it can't catch fire but when you are focused something will catch that. Laser focus can make all the difference in the world number three. Your actions reveal your values better than your words number. Four perseverance is not doing the same thing over and Over again it's trying different things until you get what you're after number five. Go Beyond Your First Reaction Question Your own answers number six. Each idea deserves serves its own spotlight number. Seven life is a never ending exploration. There are so many ways to look at things from different angles and number eight chest that standing out from the crowd and doing the opposite can work in your favor. Chai it and find out. Thank you guys so much for listening. I know that there's so much to be doing from last minute holiday shopping and there's always still work and stuff with the House and kids and so much just so much so I just want you to know. I'm such a big fan of all of you. You and I don't take for granted that you spend your time here remember. We're going to be doing a fun celebration of all of your winds on Thursday's episode. So if you want a chance to be a part part of that you can record a voice memo email at toss at hello. Don't keep your day job dot com. Then we can play your actual voice right on the gas which would be pretty fun to hear yourself on the podcast and to make sure that you get to hear all the cool episodes that are coming your way. Make sure to subscribe wherever you listen. 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Are You Ready to Pay Off Debt FAST?

Chris Hogan's Retire Inspired

49:40 min | 8 months ago

Are You Ready to Pay Off Debt FAST?

"Be Ip's you don't want the best coming up. We've got dead who had a wakeup call moment while he was six figures in debt victorious. What you won't forget also, we got a caller she cares about her family she wants to know how do you begin to talk about money with family? It gets all weird pushy had squishy. You don't WanNa miss it stay to. Welcome to the Chris Hogan show home of everyday millionaires. Be Ip's this is your show where your life and your money takes center stage and never forget that it is your life you've gotta take charge. Well, I'm excited to be back with you. We've got a great show lined up and we're going to dig in give you information you need. So you can make decisions to help you grow forward and I talk about growing for because that's a decision that we have to make we have to choose we can try to. Stay the same or we can strive to get better but here's the reality you either getting better. You're getting worse nothing just stays the same I had one of my football coaches share that wisdom with me and too many times we try to stand pat we try to just hey maintained but I want you to hear that you're getting better or you're getting worse nothing stays the same and so it's about intention -ality it's about making decisions. It's about growing forward and pushing yourself getting new information and applying day after day. And so I'm excited to be with you. We are going to dive in and obviously I want to dig into the article I wanNA thank Elizabeth one of the VIP's who's listened in and has been a supporter and subscriber to the show as I. Ask you guys if you run across artists calls to send them in and she without a shadow of Doubt sent this one and she knew it was going to get me riled up and so We're going to dig into this article the title in a financial pinch here are some of the cheapest ways to borrow money Oh. This is for money wise and again I wanNA. Thank Elizabeth As you can tell by the article, this article is encouraging people. Who are in financial trouble who are already feeling stress strain and strife from debt to take on more debt? which it's like being a black hole and digging yourself deeper into that hole just going down low farther just gone just keep going and going and going and going instead of trying to figure a way to climb out the article opens up by acknowledging that some people might be facing tough times really. Author writes whatever the situation you might be forced. Into borrowing money to pay for everything you need without having to do something drastic. Wow. Let's get straight right now. VIP's we're never forced into taking on debt. It's always a choice. It's always something where we get to decide and we get to choose. The question is, is it a good choice? Remember we opened we're talking about you either getting better where you're getting worse nothing stays the same. And so this article shares three cheap ways to borrow money more. You know we're GONNA fill date with us number one, they have low to no interest credit cards. According to the Federal Reserve the average interest rate for credit card is sixteen percent. Yes sixteen. So, the article essentially advises readers to take out credit cards that have a low or zero APR for the first. Eighteen. Months. Wow. So many problems with this approach because number one we all know if you're alive right or if you've had the if you've had the ability to avoid this, then consider yourself fortunate but most people have figured out and found out the hard way that overspending on a credit card is super easy. And the reality is as you still get to pay back and have to pay back what it is that you owe. Number two personal loans. The article pitches personal loans for people who need to borrow more than a couple hundred dollars. In fact, if you can borrow up to get this fifty thousand dollars on a personal loan with interest rates starting at three point four percent. If you're in a financial pinch why in the world? Why would you take on more debt? Why would you expose yourself to to more risk more stress strain in strife you wouldn't. Number three of. Number three. payday loan. Alternate. APPS. If you need some money and Here's how they promote these. If you need some money just to tide you over, it sounds like a snack between meals mean tide me over to your next paycheck. You can use an APP like bridget, which allows you to borrow up to two hundred fifty dollars as just a nominal ten dollar monthly fee but you can borrow two hundred fifty dollars or an online bank that allows you to overdraft account for up to one hundred dollars. Listen to me people. There is no cheap way in which to borrow money none and debt I have found will always cost you something. It will always cost you either piece of mine. It'll cost you money or it'll cost you to have the to to have the constant strain and strife of how am going to deal with this and how many get it out of my life. The things that they listed in this article, payday lenders, personal loans, credit cards. These things are not here to help you. These industries are here to take advantage of you to have a plan for your money if you don't. They don't care about making you rich they care about themselves. A recent study from careerbuilder. States that thing that we've already talked about before seventy eight percent of Americans. Are. Living paycheck to paycheck. That means at one check doesn't show up they have what's now called a situation. And you've probably been there you've lived this. But at some point, what we have to do is stop trying to use crappy bandaids. You ever use those cheap mandates Y- have you there's super generic, right? They they they stick for about three seconds right? You slap it on the cut or something, and literally if you breathe twice that band's going slide right off, it just slides off it is. It won't stay it's not going to stay on their right. Meanwhile, there are some brands on there that you literally got to get a court order to get that thing off I've had some good Lord of mercy thing became skin right? We want to use things that are going to give us a plan and are going to protect US crappy bandaids protect these crappy products won't protect your financial future. Personal loans, credit cards, payday lenders. These things are designed to take advantage of you don't allow them in your life. At some point, what we have to do is make a decision and we have to stop the cycle. And so when you're ready and when you decide, you can't take control of your financial future. That's the beauty of it. I'm seeing people make the decision all day every day, and it gets me excited because they're making changes not that it's going to be easy VIP's, but it is going to be worthwhile. Again, the article thank you Elizabeth. One of the VIP's sentiments in and a financial pinch. Here are some of the cheapest ways to borrow money and this is from money. Wise. We all know is not real, but we're GONNA put a link in the show notes and those who watch on Youtube will put a link below and you can click on it and get over there and read let's educate ourselves and protect ourselves as well as our financial futures. Okay you know I had talked about and been doing kind of the wakeup call segment, and this is where I'm talking to people because I want to find out what was your never again moment? What was the thing that you said you know what enough is enough I'm making changes and we're going to start to do things a different way because we all have those in varying degrees. So I've got I got mid on the line and net how are you today? Good. How're you Chris I'm focused not finished my friend. So tell me what was your wakeup call? Well, my wakeup call moment is pretty unique. My wakeup call I guess. Unfortunately to do with. An injury. And Twenty, thirteen I was working as a defense contractor in Utah here in Salt, Lake City and I was in a work related action intended chemical compound. exploded right into my face. Oh my goodness. And Unfortunately the accident left me. Legally, blind. Oh. And I had been. Very irresponsible with money. Over the course of my life. And my reasoning was will always. Have this job always have a good career I'll be able to. Take care of it eventually. Never thinking that the future was going to change for me the way it did. And thankfully, I did have good disability insurance. So I was able to get a small portion. Get some percentage of my income. I was still looking at over six figures of debt. With now, a much reduced income. So I kind of made it up in my mind. That I was GonNa, I had to do it. I had to try and clean up the mess. Despite. You know despite what limited future or? How what the future was gonNA have I had to give it a shot at to try. You said you and look at that. You've got six figures of debt. What kind of debt did you have? Off. The list is long rather undignified. CIA, I got your brother I feel loans, credit cards, student loans. Car loans, loans to family. Embarrassing. Now, look at it. What you start to change. What started to change I said, what did you change as you started to get more serious with this situation? What are some of the things you did? And jurists. Kind of like you said intention analogy. Yeah. Yeah. I had to pay attention. I'd spent years not and attention years taking things for granted. And that just got into a gigantic best, and now I was going to be handicapped a little bit. And doing it but I decided that that was not going to be the end of. That it was not gonNa be the end of my story and. You know that's what a baby steps came in. There the proven way to get out? Get Out of debt you know Sir and my margin for error was gone. I couldn't relax I couldn't cut corners. I couldn't do anything I had to follow those things to a T. And so I started on my little journey and GonNa Halfway through twenty fourteen. I started on the baby steps. And on April. Third Twenty nineteen. Got Out of debt while. I. Full disclosure I did get a few things forgiven due to my disability, right? I cleaned out with little savings I had I. Cut. Lifestyle. Down to the bone. And it baby step three on April Twenty nineteen Congratulations Ned seriously i. mean you you you. You hit on something you know paying attention right? Not taking things for granted anymore and getting serious 'cause you had a choice you could have quit. You could've found excuses you could have pitied yourself but that's not what you did. You got more serious in the midst of the struggle. And that's absolutely I. I. Commend You not everybody has that muscle my friend. Not An you decided you made that choice, my goodness, six figures of debt. Beginning from twenty thirteen have an accident getting intentional April third twenty nineteen he was debt Free Nedim proud of your buddy. Thank you for sharing that. Thank you for being willing to open up with your story. VIP's we can all either make excuses or we can make progress and ned as an example. Of Excruciating Injury, a terrible tragic injury but it didn't stop him. It didn't stand in his way he got more serious and more focused. I used the phrase focused not finished. Net is an example of that and that's motivating and for a lot of you out, there may be a kick in the pants because you've been making some excuses do what ned did he said he paid attention and he didn't take things for granted anymore. Thank you dead. Thank you VIP's if you're out there I, want to hear from you I want you to give me a call. The number to call is eight, four, four, two, eight, three, nine, three, eight, three again that's eight, four, four, two, eight, three, nine, three, eight, three call. Tell me the question that's on your mind or email me if you want ask it Chris Hogan three sixty dot com. All right. Here's the deal going back to the phones I've got Derek Derek on the line Derek, how are you? I'm doing well Chris how are you? I'm focused not finish my friend what's on your mind today? Well, just to give you a little back story in August. Twenty nineteen we moved our family into a new home to get our kids a little more room and our old house out on the market until March of twenty twenty when it finally sold and unfortunately during that time I received two inheritances and my my wife and I made a very smart choice outside of our normal behavior and we paid off all of our data. Wow and. Even, after we did that, we still had a nice chunk of money left and we were we were about to give very stupid with that money and one day I came into work and they said you're going home Kovin is is sending everybody home It was kind of a blessing in disguise spent a Lotta time with my wife and kids at the House and talking to my wife and living in fear full-time We time talking about money and talking about our. Future and what would happen if we would lose a job that led us to looking into the baby step program and when we found out where we were, we were surprised to see that we were about halfway through step three already and reading through everything You know we skip the struggle. We skipped the hard part of you know listening to all the callers talk about life and beams, and in struggling to get out of that debt and love helping people. Love. Coaching and trying to help people in any way, and honestly this is left me with a little bit of guilt because I have a hard time offering that help someone that might be just starting the baby steps because I didn't we didn't leave through the hard part and also with people that have been through it, we have a hard time relating with the with the struggle that they went through because we just kind of fell into it. How much did you inherit He was cheering haired into about seventeen thousand and we did we did tied a little bit of that. So we didn't seventeen right well, here's the thing you were fortunate. What happened you? You were left money intentionally which you all decide to use intentionally to be able to clean up a financial situation. And so I don't think necessarily that it's a matter of that you all cheated or that you don't know necessarily the struggle Derek we all have had struggles in our lives and I'm sure you and your wife have walked through something that was stressful strained frustrating or irritating. So it allows you to be able to empathize and understand the. The fortunate thing is that you guys had enough awareness to be able to follow through because a lot of people that I ended up hearing Derek will get an inheritance and they'll continue down that path they'll continue being normal and so I am proud. Of You that you had that inheritance intentionally worked for you I I. Don't think that necessarily it means you still can't guide people right where they are hearing their story being able to identify with it and being able to point them in the direction and so I I don't don't shortchange your journey is what I'm saying your journeys still has validity You guys still new the battle all right and some struggle with the stress and strain of debt or the awareness, and so it still allows you to be able to coach people to guide people to help them work through right where they are. And that's the beauty of the mindset of a coach is that a you know where you are now in in in the benefit of having that debt paid off, you know the benefit of working toward and having a fully funded emergency fund. So things are positives that you can attest to, and so I think you can still help people and encourage them whether it's being a financial peace university coordinator whether it's you looking to coach people from where they are. You still have lived in your my friend. Thank you for that. You know we all get to make decisions. We all get to decide at my moving forward. Am I gonNa get better and I think when we have that wisdom of maybe haven't made prior mistakes. What it does is it allows us to begin to look at things totally different and say I, want to get better and when you do that begin to make choices that push you or guide you into a better decision let's they OUGHTA phones next up I've got Christie Seattle Christie, how are you today and well, how are you Chris Bogus finishing lady? What's on your mind today? Thank you so much So at the end of last year before discovering you guys and of course Pre Cohen we had the opportunity to buy into my husband's business broker. So we did that. And the way it's structured was through alone and the the loan is paid with the Prophets of the portion of the company that we now own. So it's. It's a pretty. Hefty. Size loan. So it got me nervous and that's what got me to discover you guys and then which was the lonely so it's a hundred and ninety, four, thousand this gracious. What kind of businesses this it's. A physical therapy clinics? All Right? Yeah. So it's So it's paid with the with the prophets of it So my question is. Are we treating this as baby step two are we additionally putting? Our money into this to to knock it out as fast as we can. So right now, this loan is paid by Prophet. So is it paid automatically? Correct. Okay. So what's it down to now? If it started at one, ninety four, how much is it now? So so now it's down to one fifty three. Years later. Oh started it started in January. Okay. Got You. Got You. Yeah. So I'll say we did already put some of our own money into it though because. I wasn't sure. You know. So we we put a lot of that in there too, and of course, the profits went down a few months during Kobe. It's up now Well, what's your household income right now? Kristie. it's about one, eighty, five. Okay and so on the personal side, let's shift over. Do you guys what debt do you have on an on your personal side? So. We do not have anything. We when I do you guys back and you know January February Ah, we paid off We had eighty eighty of student loans and we paid that whole. Oh, you ojected some student loans out of your. Life. We did. That's a my gosh. Okay. That's awesome. So you don't have any debt. Did you build up an emergency fund? Yes. Okay. So we have we have three months and we're just not sure you know should are we dumping that into this loan or I? Got You Okay so here. Okay. So about how are they paying on monthly this loan or is it coming from prophets quarterly? Coming from private monthly. And so you all are able to see this. So here's the thing I tell people with business debt if it if it's in your name then you you in a way you're personally liable for it. Right meaning if prophets don't come out of this business and apply to that loan, it would be a matter of what's the structure like you know what's what's worse case scenario if there are no prophets, do you all have to make a payment? We do not and we saw that during. Drug, profits went down significantly so Good that it was structured that way because we. Owe anything. No. Absolutely. So the fact that you you know in the paperwork that you're not personally quote unquote liable, it's all based on the prophets It'd be a matter of looking and getting crystal clear Kristie okay. When is this thing supposed to be paid off Do you have the ability to be able to accelerated and you guys are making great income with you? Know you paid off student loan debt so you and your host Y'all talk about this right looking at it and understanding and say, okay if we fast forward this thing. And we attack it and get it out. How is that profit sharing now gonna come to you like if you all get rid of that, one, fifty, three in that's left in this profit-sharing debt if you guys were to pay it off how much more revenue is going to be coming to you as opposed to go into this loan, and so this might be a thing that you look at you say bullyboy eighteen to. Twenty four months we could use that, and now we have X. amount coming to us more month after month. So some research on it you guys sitting talking looking kind of plan but boy oh boy, the way you all pay off eighty thousand in student loan debt. If you guys were to continue with that kind of mindset, you can make some serious stuff happened. Great Job Christie I'm proud of you and your husband. All right. Listen to me. If you WANNA chase down progress, you've got to have a proven plan. That's why I'm excited to invite you to join Ramsey plus that's an all access membership packed full of tools, teachings and tracking that actually changed my own life and the average member pays off fifty three hundred dollars in debt and saves twenty seven hundred dollars for emergencies is in the first ninety days people. So to start your free trial of Ramsey plus just text the word trial two, three, three, seven, eight, nine. Again I always tell people a dream without a plan is simply a wish. So you can start your free trial text, the word trial two, three, three, seven, eight, nine to get started. By the way, VIP's don't tell him I told you this, but here's the deal. Okay. You sign up for Ramsey plus we've got an incredible conference. It's called our Smart Conference our Smart Conference listen it is we have all of our speakers we have Dr Make Meeker. We have Henry Cloud, we have Dr Les Parrott. It's one of our premier events while I'm telling you this because if you sign up for Ramsey plus you're gonna get to livestream the Smart Conference for free if you're a member of Ramsey plus you. have an opportunity to be able to livestream it for free. Otherwise, the smart conference would cost forty dollars to be able to bloodstream it into your home. So being a part of Ramsey plus is going to bring perks, it's going to give you access to more information so you can continue to grow. So again, get over text the word trial two, three, three, seven, eight, nine, pro I don't know if I was supposed to tell you that or not, but I did it, and so we're family so we just do stuff. Hollywood situation later I'm scared of Bob. All right listen to me Bob's on our side. He's on my side. All right. Listen to me. Did you know this is where I a chance to kind of give you some new information and this one I get excited about because I'm GonNa give you five steps to paying off debt quickly quickly people we don't we don't stroll through the debt. Force. Okay. You know people stroll. Yep. Seeing people listen to me I'm about to get riled up. Have you had people strolling through the grocery store? You know how you go in out listen people I do everything intentionally. Okay. I'm on a mission when I hit that Sto- I gotta get in get what I need have you had people like destroyed like just taking the time as if they're memorizing Everything Shelf, ID people get out of the way. Okay. I'm like Nascar going through that thing but but but people stroll they take their time. Listen I. Alright I have settled myself down I. DO I know I do but here's the deal if you're trying to get out of debt, I don't you stolen don't you dare just tip through and just kind of course. Strolled through the I want you to get rolling and I'm GonNa give you have ways to pay off debt quickly number one get mad I want you to get mad at the debt I want you to get mad at your situation I want you to identified that debt is a thief it's stealing from you right now and it's GonNa Steal from you later. So what do we have to do we gotta get more intentional more focused got to get mad. Number to cast a vision for where it is, you won't be have a specific goal in mind have a picture in your mind. Hey, why what's GonNa keep you motivated? Are you planning to take that trip once you get out of debt if you have that vision of you with your kids your grandkids one day if you guys read retire inspired, you know talk about that my my trip one day with my grandkids hopefully, and so that mindset you get out of detrick give yourself a raise number three cut back in spending you gotta get rid of the. Non, essential stuff, such as eating out entertainment travel vacations listen if you're in debt, those things aren't happening, but it doesn't mean that they can't happen and so you begin to have this mindset for yourself. Number four increase your income. Okay. Hold on increase your income to use toward attack in the debt are got people that are increasing their income but they're continuing to do stupid can't do that. That keeps you right where you are and so that mindset increase your income start to a side hustle and send that money toward attack in the debt number five don't go it alone. When you're trying to get yourself out of debt pain in a community of like minded people. You stay more motivated more focused than more intentional. We need each other to stay motivated VIP's and so get some accountability people in your life your best friend, your spouse, a group joined the everyday millionaires facebook group got people in there from eighteen to eighty of every stage but they're motivated and encouraging each other. We also have the baby steps group or by joining a financial peace class community is important and so this mindset helps you get out of debt quick. So that's your did you know five steps to paying off debt quickly and I firmly believe that this is something that can happen. We just got to change our mindset and get more intentional. Okay I asked you guys I was like listen to me I want you to send me in some video questions. You know in this timeframe I, love being able to see your face. I love to be able to see you ask the question and so again, remember what we say and if you send in video question and we use it, you're GONNA get an. assigned. Autograph copy of my recent book everyday millionaires and so we ask than you all have been sending them in and so let's take a look at the newest recipient of assign book. What's the video question peeps I Chris I just finished baby step to my car lease will be up in July of Twenty, twenty one, the end of lease price is fourteen thousand dollars. If I, have the fourteen thousand dollars on hand. Should I save that to go towards the car purchase in July twenty, twenty one or poor debt fourteen thousand dollars towards baby step three Oh okay. Now love people that are intentional. Right but we gotTA help him clean up and think up the situation. Right he's worked hard to attack the debt into step to be not finished because you do have this lease. So this is gonNA count as part of debt. So what I'm GonNa do is I'm definitely going to have that money saved up to be able to pay for that vehicle. Have this vehicle, own it outright I'm gonNA drive it till wheels fall off. So yes, you're still going to count this Lisa's debt find out from them if you're able to pay extra on it as you go or if it's an outright by toward the in but I would accelerate this. Thing they want money, and so I, don't see them I. don't see them having a problem with you going ahead and trying to either a converted or be ready to as soon as the date allows you But yes, my friend used that money towards paying off that that car and having an outright Vin once you've done that, then you can start to build up your fully funded Emergency Fund. Thank you for that question my friend. All right. Listen. If you're out there and you got a question I want to hear from you call me eight, four, four, two, eight, three. Nine three eight, three again. That's eight, four, four, two, eight, three, nine, three, eight, three. Call. Let me know what's on your mind or if you prefer, you can email me ask Chris Hogan three sixty dot com. All right. Let's get on the phone. I gotTA get back here I've got the Jessica is on the line just how can I help you? Hi Chris. Thanks for having me on a show. I'm really Well. Thank you. It's an honor to talk to you. So Um my husband and I we are newest Nur's We've just kind of found you guys about a month ago and we're thankfully free and we're starting to plan for our future and getting a game plan and my question for you is, how do we check in with our families and talk to them about debt and their finances without sounding condescending condescending. Or intrusive as I want them to have the same type of planning and good future that we're planning on having Gotcha. Gotcha. So you guys became debt free. What kind of debt did you pay off We had two vehicles that we paid off. We actually had to pay a lot of money to get rid of those cars and get rid of that debt because we couldn't bring them to England with us. Dodger. Go. So we had to get rid of those cars and then we came here we just bought to junker cars and so are debt free. Okay. That's fantastic. So let me ask you this. Jessica. What caused you all to get serious about getting out of debt. So we have never really been intentional with our money. We've just kind of spent in done whenever we wanted. and. We just. decided that we have two daughters now and we want to have a future for them and we realized, Hey, we might actually want to buy a house some day. So we decided to get that three stay debt freeze thaw and really start being intentional with how we're spending our money and our planning for our future. Okay. So then let's shift this and now you're saying, hey, how do we begin to talk to a family about this Why do you WanNa Talk? Why do you WanNa talk family about money? I WanNa make sure that my family, my relatives. My in laws that they're set up for their future as well because I don't want anyone in my family to be struggling. And I, want them to you know be intentional also nervous to talk to them about it because I don't want them to think that I'm being intrusive. So I. Don't know I just got that. See you lead with love okay. You Care About your family you care about your in laws and you said, you don't want them to struggle. You want them to be able to be moved down a path. So here's the best thing to do. It is to share information with them. It's the ask questions without requiring an answer meaning ask them if they've heard of these these to these two ball dudes here in the states you know have they heard of Dave? Have they heard of Chris share the information? Maybe share some articles from Daveramsey DOT COM for Chris Hogan three, sixty, DOT COM, send some information and ask out of Love Okay and when you start to do this, you may not get an answer they may not. But as you start to talk with them about it don't be scared you're not prying right you're. Not, asking them to tell you their debts or show you their budget. You're not trying to become a coach but what you're trying to do is to become an advocate and that is asked him questions share information maybe even send them a book. Here's what won't do I'm GonNa send you retire inspired I'm GonNa send you two copies and Madison will get your information. I'm GONNA, send them to you, and what I want you to do is to share that with your in laws share that with your mom and just gift it to them. Now eat whether they read it or not. Jessica we don't know. Okay, I wish I could put a censor in there that Mattel me when the books br been read all the way through back can't. But what I'm GonNa do is I'm GonNa send you those and I want you to share information with them and and again it's just one of those things where as you follow up and you're just check in and you want to ask them, Hey, have you did you get a chance to read that? Did you have any questions and just be open to it but again, be proactive and asking questions not in a nosy way when out of love and I think that's that's the best approach as you're dealing with family. VIP's dealing with family and money can be tough. Okay. I can tell you right now most people would rather talk to strangers than to inquire with family but I'm GonNa tell you something a great opportunity just an asking questions maybe forward them article maybe send them the R. I, Q. Get in there and they're able to figure out what their retirement dreams GonNa look like most people have no idea what they're aiming toward. They're just putting money away and fifty two percent of people aren't saving for retirement and so if you care enough, you would at least ask you in at least share information with them because you do care and I think that's a great opportunity and Jessica I love your heart the fact that you're willing you want to help them and you're you're reaching out to ask I appreciate it. Thank you for that. Okay it's now time for panicked. Or pumped ragged a chance to meet you right where you are and be a coach. got a panicked email in from Zach IOS Hi Chris. I'm currently on baby step two and working to pay off our cars, my wife and are in that stage of life where we're looking to buy a house and have a child. I've been trying to help my wife see the in goal of paying off our debts, student loans and cars but she's worried we can't do it because at the end of the month, her income is barely able to pay her bills. I've been trying to transition her into seeing. It's we now not separate. We've been stuck in this Rut for the past few years and we haven't been moving forward. My wife has scheduled. That has all over the place and doesn't know if she can have another job to make more income. I'm wondering what direction to take in life whether it's pay off her debts and potentially destroy my marriage or buy a house and have a child then risk not being able to provide for my wife and future child. Okay, Zach my friend you've got a lot going on and a couple of things that jumped out at me is. You guys, and your wife aren't on the same page right now and I'm GonNa tell you. I. Have Never suggested to anyone that you wait to get out of debt or before you begin to to grow your family that's not something I would ever say nor would I tell people don't to not get married until you get out of debt? No, you're getting married or growing your family that's a decision you and your wife need to make prayerfully and carefully right. But I think there are a lot of pronouns in here that jump out at me that she's worried that she can't pay her bills at the end of the month and and and so it's going. To be a matter of you guys combining income you guys getting on the same page and beginning to approach this in the we kind of mindset beginning to look and not have this individual divide. But the bank account that you guys are depositing your money that you're paying the bills out of and so adopting that. But also start to lead with the heart like I'm sure she's got heart feelings about wanting to grow the family and you got heart feelings about the future that you guys are looking to have together a bunch you to talk to each other not at each other, and that might be sitting down having a date night and just getting open and honest and being real. but working together. And want you to kind of begin to walk through and as I say Zach, I try to guide people to try to make two year decisions make decisions today that you look back on in two years and you're glad that you made it because it puts you down a path that leads you in the right direction. So you guys talk more and here's another thing you guys may WanNa go sit down with a marriage counselor and to begin to unpack and talk about some of these things there's nothing wrong with utilizing a third party. It's a great opportunity to allow you both to speak which you feel But to get some guidance and to begin to kind of figure out okay. How do we make this decision for the best of the family and I'm GonNa tell you moving down that direction put you on a path you WANNA go zach. Thank you for reaching out. Thank you for for being willing to share this situation. I know a lot of people are in this right now in the midst of this condemning and making life decisions and choices on Hey, do we do this or do we do that and so we do WanNa be careful as my grandmother said be prayerful and careful about the decisions you make. I gotTA pumped email in from Danielle she goes Hello Chris. My name is Danielle and I'm nineteen years. Old I'm starting my second year of college and have been working on budgeting and finding your videos along with Dave Ramsey's it's been a huge help in in one of your older videos I just watch you Astra callers write in panicked or pumped and Chris I'm late but I'm pumped. With my savings along with the job and two smaller sources of income I will graduate. Debt. Free. I was able to make fourteen thousand dollars so far this year and I'm still working. Thank. You so much for all the advice and motivation. This is amazing I- anytime, I'm able to hear about a young person graduating debt free. That's a big deal. You have no idea that people that I meet that are in their thirties and forties that still have a student loan still kind of hanging around and there's nothing I mean again as we get serious and people are chopping those down talked to a couple just recently paid off three, hundred and fifty thousand. Student loan debt gay took him some time about six years but they paid off three, hundred and fifty thousand. So I know what's possible when we start to make decisions but young lady for you Danielle to be able to graduate debt free you've given yourself an advantage. You've given yourself an opportunity to be able to grow forward to be able to start off on the right track and I'm going to tell you this. For a lot of young people that are graduating I wanted I want to caution you on a couple of things. Number one do not do not go get a new car. Avoid that typically when people graduate or they start getting that first big boy big girl job. The first thing they WANNA do is go upgrade card and I'm gonNA. Tell you something if he's got a payment on it, it is not something you want to be bothered with you want to be intentional slowdown and pay cash number two from Uncle Hogan. Okay. I like that. Alcoholic and tips and I want you to run out and try to hurt by house. Okay. I want you to slow down be intentional rent maybe live with a roommate for a little while to keep expenses low and began to build up that fully-funded emergency fund to be able to build up that down payment for a home. Intentionally, Perry intentionally want you to slow. Down what tends to happen is as we WANNA do grownup stuff quick right we want to hurry up and move forward and what can happen is as we can get off our game plan. So I want you to sit down and give some thought what's your plan for the next two to three to five years where you WanNa live? What are you wanting to be doing? And then have that mindset of moving yourself down that path It's truly important and I'm GonNa tell you when you have a plan, it's easy to be able to follow it and you can also protect that plan, which means you're not doing anything that's going to deviate from this. You know the direction you want to go and why it matters to you it's really important. Okay. If you're out there and you're feeling panicked or pumped, I, want to hear from you a number one panicked people we all have life stuff going on. We have stuff that stressing us and I want you to understand that you're not alone and like Zach when you open up and you ask questions, you're also have you have no idea the other people that you're helping who are thinking or feeling that exact same way and so when you reach out and you Have the courage to ask it helps. So you have to do is email me put panicked in the subject line and talk about what's on your mind just type it out let it out the same time. If you're pumped, you ready looking to celebrate you've achieved a milestone and you go I, need to celebrate what someone just put pumped in the subject line and you can send it as well. It's a great opportunity to be able to reach out and to celebrate. So again, the main thing is I want you to reach out and realize you're never alone and so you can get connected with our everyday millionaire facebook group you can get connected email us if you're feeling panicked or I you to make sure you know you've got people around you that care a great opportunity for you. You know I loved the segment of leaving excuses at the door Back. When we were doing the retire inspired events, I, want to hear from people and find out what's the thing standing in your way what's the thing standing in the way of you pursuing and chasing down your dreams. So at the event, we've been asked people to write on a sticky note what's the thing standing in the way and people did they wrote them down and they'd we literally had them slap it up on the door because we left. Excuses at the door meaning. We're no longer GONNA have anything stand. In the way we're going to pursue. We're going to chase it down. We're going to get better we're GONNA get more intentional and so I wanted to share with you. These are some that were sent in and that that from the event that I still have and trust me I've got piles and piles of these things but I wanted to share a couple of these with you. One of them says might partner slash spouse is not serious. So one of the things that's Kinda standing in the way of them getting more intentional about their future, they're not working together as a team. Well. Here's the thing. I. Think as you look at this and you start to realize, hey, my spouse isn't serious. What do we do well I think it's a matter of having conversations and getting connected with really talking to the heart and I don't mean graphs and charts. Okay. I'm not I don't I don't I don't mean have have the budget chart and you're clicking through with a highlighter and and the and the read. Pointer. Mobley laser no no. No No. No. No. What I mean is a start to talk with them about what it is that they see for the future. What do they want to be doing most of the time and I've seen this? If people have children, you start to talk about, Hey, what's the goals and dreams you have for your kids for the future? What do you want them to be able to do? What do you want them to have the option to do? I've never met a parent or grandparent don't have serious dreams for their kid grandkid and as you start to lead with this and start to talk about, hey, how do we do this? You can help them get more serious. Most of the time people don't believe that it's possible for them to achieve some stuff. Again, we don't know what they've walked through they've been through but what you can do as a spouse is to be able to fan that flame to be able to talk about how much you believe in them, which you believe might be possible if you guys were to lock arms and get serious. Another good thing to do with that as the celebrate milestones as you begin to do this, you got to start to think if you're trying to encourage spouse or significant other, you've gotTa make sure you're doing a whole lot of cheerleading people need to be to hear a positive encouragement people need to know that progress is being made or you're defying what they're doing well, and so it's really Important to be able to congratulate them to be encouraging and to talk about the positives and so working together and talking with each other not at each other. I'm going to tell you something. It's a great way for you and your spouse to get on the same page, and again, it's not a conversation that's called an introduction. It's going to be a series of conversations and a series of connecting. Another one was identified my dream and this one's real if you can. If you don't have your dream identified, it's going to be real hard for you to get excited is gonNA be real hard to make sacrifices for something that if you don't know what it is and why it matters to you. So that's why even with the R. I Q. Retire Inspired quotient we lead with the dream. We lead with helping people figure out what is it that you want to do for example do you want to spend time with family? Do you want to spend time with your spouse? Do you WANNA travel? Do you WANNA, start a business do you want to do mission trips or do you just want vacation most of the time when I talked to people about those things they say yes. They say, yes, they go. I WanNa do a little bit. All things, I I like it and I love that but I think identifying it for example, would travel. It's not just that you WANNA travel. But where are you going who's with you? How long are you there? and. So yes, identifying the dream is really crucial and it might take some time to really dig into and find out what gets your heart excited and so I want you to go over to Chris Hogan three, sixty dot com. It's GonNa. Walk you through the dream component you and your spouse do this on a date night not only is it going to help you kind of unpack and get a feel for what it is that you want, but it's going to start to help you help get it more in high definition because I want you to see all the nuances I want you to see all the details of this thing and understand what's possible. So VIP's take some time to think what standing in your way I think. It's important for us to make sure that the excuses well, we gotta leave them things out the door. We get more intentional to realize as I told you at the beginning of the show you you're either getting better or getting worse nothing stays the same. We get to make those choices we get. To be more intentional and we can improve VIP's I want to thank you for taking the time to tune in. I want to thank all the callers calling. Thank everyone for sending in their email also want to thank the entire Chris Hogan show production deeper making stuff happen I, appreciate them but we don't have a show without him. So until next time, don't make excuses make progress. Hey everyone. If you enjoy podcast Ramsey solutions, we've got a new one for you. The CHRISTY Wright show. She's going to help you build confidence in yourself and your future check out the Christy Wright show where Christie inspires you to breakthrough your limitations and create a life that you're proud of Hail I'm Christie. Right you know it's so easy to feel stuck. 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He just laughed so we recorded record. We already recorded now. We're going backwards and doing the intro so you guys get a really timely intro. This is like the day before the episode drops you as a real excited about this gas yeah. You're in for a real treat treat. You have all deemed us about it. So we have a great episode. We have dared pay from Bachelor nation on so we posted them on our stories and stuff like that. You guys are wild for this man. It's you especially got a ton of DM's. Everybody's like Oh my God one of us to fuck him. He's so hot ran and you have to please talk. Oh my God the amount of you that I'm working on it. Relax working on this for a while but I am so I'm so excited cited. This is our first episode recording and we have a guest so he is worthy of the apartment finally find someone took something really special before we would allow the apartment apartment legs to obese. Brad not really. I've been here a week but yeah. I don't know I don't WanNA spoil. You guys like no-one no-one. no-one fucked Eric in this apartment. No He's just a nice boy from Iowa Yeah. It's all yes you guys are so crazy but speaking of the fucking in this apartment there is something. I've been wanting to tell you okay. When I went to Atlanta a couple of weeks ago I went to Kelly's modern mystic shopping. Pinot we had Kelly night on the show and she has this great shop in Atlanta and she was like what do you want in your new apartment. Like what do you envision. You want to help well success. I WanNa give you like a rock or crystal or stone or something and I was like i WanNa get laid a lot and she goes okay and she was like she came stone. First Sexual Frost way already. I have to tell you I was looking at okay so guys like full disclosure. We make like no it's about. We want to talk about every day and one of the notes is sex rock and I was like I won't ask her. I'll just find out because we haven't shared. We both jumped into it. I was like I'm not ask what this means a lot of times. I make my separates but today I was like fuck it. She knows I'm GONNA so Kelly was like here's your stone. It's Cornelia and I can't remember remember. That's called Karnal Ian. It's it's really pretty amber color and she was like put this. She goes put this under. Your bed like this is crazy. I don't have a rocket or my bed. Okay you Kalima. We're right about everything and she was like Aussie. You can hold it when you masturbate. I wish it was a man during more than half of the people I've slept with Jerry. Jones texted me and she goes. Hey I need your address. I'm going to send you a gift. It's supposed to bring you lots of sex. I'm like this is embarrassing at this point. Oh people are really roasting. You actually get more. No it's ever offered me a sex rock. They know what's up. Get your rocks off anyway. Guys modernistic shop. You can get your own alien sexton so bad. Why don't you guys like what is this and you're doing drags down dead from outside I do have you seen me. I'm shit. He's like that's a beautifully polished stone like Oh. They have them in the courtyard luxury. It's a luxury. We don't have real rocks here. We only of course amethyst crystal. Oh my God I wanted to just talk about the move at length but I mean moving to super stressful and it's such a it can be such a pain in the ass and it can ruin your life. I The best moving company I wanted to give them a plug. Their called flat rate moving. They were wonderful. I really I put this instagram story of you. Guys have an issue but three guys came. They packed my whole old apartment packed at all like like I just I thought I was going to help and I was like I'm here to help and they didn't even acknowledge me say that and then they just went to town like the sound of like the tape and the boxes was deafening gene and I just left and got coffee and then I came back and I'm like can I help and they're like no and I really couldn't. I was like in their way and just sat there with the blankets all those blankets to wrap stuff often. They didn't need that many because I didn't have the Mitch sold a lot of it so it was like sitting outside the apartment I just sat on the stack of blankets and drank coffee while they finish the move they have my whole apartment packed up load in the truck and under chew hours than they just drove over here. Everything was just it was in twenty minute. You're here by noon yeah so they came at nine. Am done by noon fully moved in and and we got this cute picture. It's on my instagram do we do. We just pose like a champ never thought I can't recommend them enough. So I'm just a big fan and I think you know there's tons of different types of moving companies but obviously if you flat rate what I like is the name of his flat rate like there's no hidden fees. They're not like you thought it was gonna be this much. It says much. I really like that about them. I mean I back in the day. When I was more in budget like in Atlanta I would is some crazy moving experiences. I that uses company my very first move. When I hired movers it was so cheap and I found him somewhere where they were called. Danny delivers unmarked truck. The most unprofessional ratchet dudes moved my staff. When they drove off in the truck I was they could literally just go like I had the sickening feeling of like they could steal all my stuff a week later. Maybe a week or two later. Why did I see in the Atlanta newspaper. Danny any delivers one of his employees murdered. Danny and I was like that was the moving company. You just hear horror stories so you can afford it because it's not it's. I think it's worth every penny and I think fire rate is a pretty reasonable from what I thought. It was going to be what they quoted me. It's worth it. Oh my God. They do everything I mean I. I've only ever movers wines because I I couldn't afford it in the past and there's a huge range like when I moved into my new place I will say you have dealt with moving light years better than I have. I've but I got everything from eight hundred dollars to four thousand dollars a huge range and so I'm guessing tons of hidden costs also the people that I use you can probably just a lot but like they sent somebody ahead of time because I thought I needed thirty boxes and they said I needed one hundred boxes. She's GonNa have that'd be flat. Rate is is great because like there's no surprise costs. Yes so anyway but I just throw that in highly recommend they were great. They're they're fun on social media. They were posted on my. I stopped love the pictures of Dewey. He's never seen him smile like that. I've never seen anybody smile like that. It's like you photo shopped his fame. We the vision was like I was. GonNa have him lay across these is to medium sized boxes and the big boxes or behind and I didn't realize I didn't even really realize the boxes. Weren't that fall like. They weren't books that were keeping them. He looked right. Nfl they look so happy like you need a box locum home little angel care so how come here. I do it all for Graham. I'm well. I'm glad that worked out glad you handled moving better than I did because I had a historical meltdown for six weeks and you handled it in like forty eight hours so Kudos to uh-huh and your sex rock I was like what does that mean does yeah do you WanNa do the announcement stupid. Live shows us. Oh my God. Can I do it here for it. Okay holiday. Show guys Friday December thirteenth at townhall. ooh. If you guys don't know what this theater is if you if you watch crashing they did the final episode there but it is like an epic like Broadway Performance Theater Yeah in midtown I now. I don't know if a lot of people have seen crashing. That's the first time I saw it and really caught my eye. The Berry Finale John Mullany performs there and Pete Holmes as well and it's like this beautiful theater one of the things that they promote is that there is not a bad seat in the house because we were really looking at a few different venues and there was one. I'M NOT GONNA name names because it's a great venue but it where I was like people are so far away from the stage like I don't even know how we would be like a SPEC back to them. This is like tiered really you can be on the upper level. I mean we obviously recommend the lower level. Get as close as you can. There's shit. That's going down at the show. I cannot wait but it's just it's really amazing. CD great views everywhere and we fought really hard to pick a venue with the right day of the week for you guys really closure. We had the Apollo theater the Monday after Thanksgiving thanksgiving and we didn't want you guys do that. Go to Harlem the day after Thanksgiving so <hes>. It's a Friday night in December December. We hope you guys loved the venue as much as we do. We hope you guys are playing holiday trips to New York around it for your girlfriend's. Tickets are on sale today yeah. They're on sale promise you this will be. They are most spectacular well. We call the Christmas spectacular holiday spectacular. I promise you it will al do last year. It will be the most spectacular show we've ever done. They won't start the show without us. Okay just for lower mater actually taking a shit last year. They started the show without us. I was in the Green Room Florida's. It was some guy and Ashley was taking a shit and Herat the redway dress Yup. Sorry gun around the runway. Badgley Michika full-blown skid marks on that dress through the whole whole show had to go get another one. The next day didn't have time to wipe her the music play and had to run up to the most exercise. I've ever gone anyway. We'll never say never I can't handle it. Actually I cannot handle it if they do something like this to us this year. They won't their great. Yes so Friday the thirteenth easy to remember yeah and get those this month we do. What is the Niagara Now. This Friday is Friday thirteenth. My parents are coming. We'll it'll be good luck June. Hang on my dad just thinking honestly honestly this. Lee so much got some new lesbian porn. I guess that's what he likes. Okay anyways a couple. Tickets left in the fall for these shows it is the most host amped show have you guys have never seen our shows. You've never seen instagram videos of our shows and we're actually working on stuff like that. So you guys can see those videos by it is the most ridiculous Jiechi last night out people get so let come through obviously get dressed up. It's amazing anyways. There are tickets left in Cleveland the first night and Columbus Pittsburgh Charleston Charleston and New Orleans so that's left to the fall and the very last thing if you have tickets Lanta the first night you can add a meet and greet on and that is still available tickets are sold out but if you have tickets you and and that's it we'll see you guys throughout the fall. We have a tumor weeks in town. Let me hit the road again. Yeah I know and I can't can't recommend these all the shows obviously but I mean New Orleans and Charleston and Pittsburgh. Obviously those are the big theater shows and they're going to have all the entertainment stuff like that Orleans man. I can't wait yeah titties out to somebody was like it is so nice how supportive byard Ashley Always Bullhorn when she talks and I was like. Aren't you like that with your friends. That's so funny my blanket like it. Oh Man I can't wait at Charleston. I love chart one today's ever yeah actually both as New Orleans and trump walks in Pittsburgh city but New Orleans Charleston air to my favorite cities of all time you went to vacation there with you. I know I can't wait. We're GONNA extra days all right. Well stupid. Live show dot com girls. GOTTI PODCAST DOT com on shows are eight Raina he right introduce our hot guests. I love intro at home nervous about the first intron this apartment so in the house studio with us and do we have our very first visitor visitor from Bachelor nation. He was on the Bachelorette Joe Joe. Season he also was on this current season of Bachelor in paradise. All of you slid into. RDM's about welcome to the House Studio Derek Pave. I always feel like uncomfortable when people talk me up like welcome to the studio John John Paul Jones. We have been idiot here Derek. We couldn't get someone more famous so your hair actually texted me last night like hey man. You roasted me so hard last night. I was like we'll make it work any day of the week at anytime you go. This is real desperate yeah here. We are on a Saturday morning. Derek had four expresses. Those are both doubles. I made you two doubles three hours a night of the week and a half so but you're I mean. Let's see how this goes. You've had a lot of caffeine but you look great great. I don't feel great. You know you've been here for or an hour and a half I'm like do we still have anything to talk about talking. Shit we have. I do have to say my I do. Have your number saved by the way rain this is she was like Oh. I don't know I didn't save this number. Who is this to Faulk with her. I actually think you would explain actually goes. Did he agree and I go. He's either Florida with mayor. He's kind of fucking weird. I don't know ah I can't believe you humbled or she needs it. I know he's really big league man. I was like girls. GotTa eat and he goes. Is this a cooking show. I'm like we we. We've been you record your podcasts bright you when she showed me the screen shot and I was a kid does our podcast right actually listen like you know every every couple of weeks so thank you thank you so much. I want to say right off the bat huge fan of the franchise. I've watched every episode of my favorite season of anything. Species and Batra Paradise has been so incredible. I feel like this is really what took you to the next level like you became an icon on this season. People want you to be the bachelor all that kind of stuff but I want to stay right up top that this is not going to be a total Bachelor Bachelor in Paradise podcast episode at the end. We're going to ask all these questions that people submitted so it'll it'll come up but like we know you guys want to know all these things and we crowd source questions and we're going to do it at the end. Is Our little game with you going to be like it's part of my life but it's not my whole life. I talk about it at all. Let's talk about your finance job. Honestly I could do that. I want to be a little too boring but I do know you're like what's your life true story like what what is it. You have a real job. I work for a bank and like our big thing is student loan refinance so I travel around two hospital systems like bigger companies and sell student loan refinance at a lower price for employers. This is so boring. I know see that's what I do. That's my that's my normal life and then at night. I go to cool events. They never sleep. I have to live. I live too long. You really do live a double whole life like I don't know are there. Do you know of other Bachelor Bachelorette people that stole the full career. Most people either like fade away or they go all the way into it so weirdly crossed. That's what I'm yeah. You're you seem different in that way. You're not like pushing sugar bear vitamins but you're like what I will do on the gyms. It's like I have boxes but don't you think I don't get how they can through. Some people who think is like their holier than it. It's like oh I would never do that that kind of stuff but that's just stupid this free money that people are offering like why would yeah when I first started doing like ads on instagram for like one Hungary jail L. Sal out. It'd be like okay. Maybe your too good to take Burger King money but I'm not certain so. I'm going to take this free money. Also have you ever heard of commercials like this is how our world our life tariffs like. I'm out here. Giving you is free fire content with E. Selfie is GonNa pay for this phone. It's not free so you were on Joe Season. Who What we already talked with us before we start recording. I think she's the hottest bachelor of all time so you got lucky there and then when was that was it like two thousand seventeen or a couple of years again ever since then. I was just been a blur. It was like three and a half years ago so yeah two hundred sixteen gene. I quit my job to do that. Oh job the story at sorry I cut you off. The story of how you actually got on. The show is interesting because I think a lot of people are are dying of on reality shows and you're like they had to beg you right did yeah. I kind of fucked. Boyd them unintentionally like I didn't mean to but it was the perfect made accidental made it probably even better had it happen a little sister so my friends watched the show and drink wine and I was actually living in Florida at the time little sister percent my information in and they call in the middle of my workday and working in a bank and yeah my suit somebody he calls and she's like hi. This is Kelly from the bachelor. I want to know if you're still single and in my head I'm going this is not a normal molpus like this is not an actual call. I'm getting this house. Somebody Prank calling me like adding radio. Show whatever and so I'm just right away. I'm just like you have my email. Yeah just email me and hung phone. That really big league makes me why you so bad. Kelly's like what pod distant who had to go tell her boss like he just gamy is e mail and hung up on me like what and the whole franchise was like we gotta get. I'm Chris Ericsson's like put me on the Guy <hes> and so then they kept trying to get me to go places the drive two hours to come to some what they were. I don't even know what they call them this. She asked it'd be like Nana doing that. So they know joke. They came and it was two blocks away from my work hotel. Just took me personally other people they but yeah they had cameras set up in a hotel room and now this sounds like something. This is a Harvey Weinstein Weinstein situation. I'm getting and they're just like Oh. You're so comfortable in front of the camera and I'm going to end because I don't care if the the person who cares least has the power exactly especially in that so you like well for anybody out there. Who Does the whoever wants to go stop trying so hard yup everything I guess tell people dating a guy like you do nothing. Nothing love yourself babies the hang up on them. Give them your email and hang up. We need to make that a new thing like yeah number my email. You have my instagram handle. What was your relationship life before that. Were you newly single has been single for awhile. I was like I kept going back and forth with this one girl for six years and both of us were just horrible to each other not not actually not mean to each other but we would just be like Oh. I can't wait. I want to spend the rest of my life with you and then and then we'd be like but there's this other person I'm going to go. Try things out within just see because I'm not sure about this yet college. No it was after college fat hat but yeah it was six years worth of that. Oh man so then when they called I was. I was like this will be. The final cut to be like I'M GONNA quit. This job. I'm going to move from Florida is going to change yeah. Wow Okay and you had a real relationship from Bachelor in Paradise Taylor. Oh you as you really put her instagram. Alon considering. I Dunno some probably are less real than others like you guys. Is that a relationship right yeah and I think I'll always be the person I'm assuming who waited the longest or knew somebody the longest before like the engagement part happened because we did it. The after show everybody else does at during the show so like paradise whatever four weeks of recording and like the Bachelorette right. It actually are like ten weeks. This was like four months of dating basically before we did that so it was. It was definitely gauged. Yeah Oh Jeez. I didn't realize is this a touchy subject now broken engagements. What's up broken engaged. I didn't know that no by the way Oh rail your cases co host for the PODCAST. No I would say they found so there's so many more people that have been through that again once I did that. I had like eight friends who I didn't even know. They'd been engaged at some point in time we get it. It sucks and we're here for you yeah. I never knew anybody. I was a little younger when it happened to me. I was twenty seven. I'm at that age I mean I didn't know anybody that didn't go through it and so I was like so humiliated and I would never tell anybody and people would say like. When do you bring this up on a date and I'd be like never today. I'm like it's just in the past I know. Do you think like people should know that like divorces in and what instrument yeah I don't know. I don't think it should matter. I don't think you should lie but I don't think you need to open with it. I don't think he lied with it. I agree. I don't think my take on it as if it comes up when you're dating somebody in getting to know each other comes up but I think we always talk about this like it's weird if somebody's like purposely omitting information but it's not something to hide. I don't think I think also just got kids too so I think that's a wall. People put up sometimes times. 'cause I have friends who have kids now like I always tell people right away right away. Have a kid and to me. I'm like okay but I think you're that's a definite no for a whole lot of people well. You're probably like pushing people away. Who would maybe be like once. They meet you once even like Oh. I really like this person. Hey by the way I have. I have a kid. It's the first I roll sales. You make them want the product or you tell it what it costs because like on the sales. I was like how do I use. My Dad was like make people like you. Though by anything you sell while I was like okay I understand. I'm totally with you though I think that if you're omitting information that's a little if you live with your kids and like your your whole life all day long as your kids and you don't bring it up for three dates. It's a little all star daily part of your life. You're right if if we made it that far and then I found now I would be like a different. No you know a friend that took six months before she found and then went home with them for the holidays and then someone brought up the kid because the kid live with the mom the mom but he had he saw that he wasn't an absent father he had seen the kid while they'd been dating. That's a that's. The biggest red was crazy and he was like trump guy. We call him trump. Dad wrote Red Hat for me but engagement is not like a part of your life every day so I could stay bringing. Somebody brought it up with me on a date and on the first day and I was like I don't want to talk about this. This is weird for me because that's also about you in them right. It's not about the new person right why you might ask. Why did you guys break up. Do you have a like a media trained dancer. Yeah it is the thing with that is. I've never wanted to get into it because like it's an old wound that I don't think on her side we. I should like bring up and respectful of that but I always just like don't Wanna well. Let's talk about getting on Bachelor in paradise twice different one well this okay crying there one day. I think you as of anybody on the show were were the most mature older than some of these whatever John Paul Newman's is twenty four. You're in your thirties so I think you came across great but I I want to talk about this today in general and the episode of just putting it out there was I think you come across. Great is the weirdest thing to hear about when you do this because you're just like first of all I mean I I was just like living my life second of all when people say that it's usually because some shade happen to you. You know what I mean like. The person that didn't have anything happen just like in the background. They're like Oh yeah you weren't there but the person that they're like you came across great. I don't I don't agree totally surface level like you were a person person. I enjoyed watching and I you weren't like a dramatic drama for TV. Then you seem to like dorm situation like just deal with conflict and drama drama and like a very calm way. I feel like people like on reality TV. I'M GONNA be the biggest ship bag of all time you see that shit so easily like you can see through that yeah. I hate people that do you. Were like like a prominent character. I feel more so than you have been in the past a little bit like people were like really and we'll get this the end like Derek for Bachelor. I WanNa talk about this and generally only putting yourself out there. I feel like you really put yourself out there and there was like some rejection and let's talk about it for obviously it's hard it anytime you get rejected that sucks and obviously. I'm still single and I WANNA. I WANNA be in a relationship in my thirties. Now like this. It's time for me also grew up in Iowa which means from the time I was eighteen. People are like Oh. You're going to get married to your girlfriend. You know if I had friends after high school getting married too there is absolutely what else are you doing. You know get married make babies and grow corn and I love Corn Houston tons of recipes so but but like you do want to get married and have kids someday and sooner than later honestly. We're here for you right. Now are going to be just the amount of blowjob the job. You're going to get from this show. You're welcome because it's more than the bachelor so did you feel it was difficult like dealing with that especially on TV. I think that like once you once you're there for for a couple of days you'd actually forget about the cameras <hes> because you have to or you're playing shit up and then like you said it's really easy you see that you see through people that are acting getting or whatever like if you're just yourself your way more comfortable with adding after the fact that that were you if you the two different people if you're trying to play different characters that's just really hard to keep straight and your head to seen it before and people that snap and freak out. I think usually it's because of that because they're like trying to hold something think back and then they can. It's the person yeah but so all right to the break-up stuff the very first time on the very first show I cried on camera camera and it was like I was super ashamed of it right like I never cried and like years before that this girl that I was talking about before she. She told me at one point she was like you're too much of an emotional man. Because one time I teared up a little bit about something yeah they never do this. I swear it's like when girls like sleep with somebody early. They're like I never do this. You're like I know her. Cry At that point in time I hadn't and I was like Oh man. This is so shameful that everybody just saw me in and then after that like I owned it and like went to therapy and stuff and was like really changed my perception of you crying in the car. Yes it was hard art because because that's like all people knew me for the like leaving national yeah it was like. Oh you're the guy that got Jason Resnick like it's like when you man cry dull forget begat going full. Ms Knicks still to this day and so it's hard living your life and people knowing you because you cried the meeting people and they're just like you're the crying Guy Guy. You're like it came crashing ma'am. Am Derek Derek's cry phase exact but I've seen you posted. I think you did the best thing anybody can do any humiliating situation just to be like yeah. It was kind of weird and funny. I don't know that's a future thing like I yeah exactly and so they going back in in dealing with that stuff then. I was like all right whatever I don't care anymore. This is good. People should see guys cry. Nah I love that. I wanted to ask you about like the Demi staff because I feel like people deal with this a lot in real life and we want to take some of the things happen on the show in to real life and people. I don't know basically you connected with this girl on the show and you seemed like you were a little more all in because she was dating somebody else was a woman so she is bisexual. Maybe I I don't know what she would would. She would call herself. That's what I'm just going to say so. How do I feel like people deal with that in real life a lot where you're like. I'm all in for this. I'm not seeing anybody else but this other person then is kind of not. How did that feel why the funny thing was like. Did you see that comment. I guess no no I didn't not at all yeah and that's like a very surprising thing to find out because at the same time you see this bigger picture of it because because it's on TV you know that people are GonNa see this like all of a sudden. That's where you kind of take that thirty thousand foot view and it's like Oh my God. This is going to be a representation for how other people could handle this so that was like super extra stressful but in normal life you can't make people you can't tell people what to do. Yeah and that's like another thing I've I when I was younger. I would've done the whole I gotta fight for. Her and I don't do that shit anymore. Now okay now. I'm just like what if you don't want it. Go ahead. That's fine. Maybe that's the giving less thing that we talked about earlier. I don't know if that's that's a good like I don't know if that's a healthy approach or not. Maybe but that's feels gameplay depends at what point in the relationship I think early in a relationship is probably pretty healthy. I think like to just be like there'd seeing somebody else like somebody else more. Whatever it's not GONNA work out. We're GONNA do an episode about like when you're with somebody you know it's not GonNa work out walking away and like a year and a half and then I become a past if somebody didn't want to fight for it a little bit but like drew a couple of months. I don't know let's just call it what it is and if you guys don't know if you watch the show you know but if you don't. Demi Demi was dating a woman and then they brought her on the show. They let her stay which was pretty wild like. I always think about and I like to look at both sides. The man did that and he was like by the way have this girlfriend now. She's GonNa come here and stay America would lose shit but people were more supportive because it was a female male female relationship and it was felt different than I've amended that but it was just kind of wild and so you turned into this very sympathy sympathetic character of like oh you're seeing escrowing out or other persons here just to watch them. Yeah I think again like it's a it's a heterogeneous show that it's knowing that that was changing being some of that which is like. I have to let go of this being about me because guess what like the part about me is like my person so yeah instead of being matter like leading that free free now I need. I need to move on. I need to move forward right to the next person I don't know it's starts and on the island Islandia Liking. I thought you guys were a good match. She's great. I mean I've heard good things about it because that's all I have to say about her. Since then. There's just that weird other stuff that happened but I think a lot of people probably a little bit younger like maybe like more college age no break up with people and then have to be around the person meeting someone new and like. I liked what you said you want to take these brand terrell life because like that happens a lot you have to be around the person and even if you can separate you can still see them on social media and you're still it kind of around a you know. It's hard to take yourself out of it yeah. That's a good point but like what are you asking about dating multiple people back going thinking back. Take I think this is similar to either some camp or like high school college when you are always around each other because the same classes or whatever kind of things and that's I think when people are are dating multiple people at the same time which is basically what this show. This show is different ways yeah. Let's talk about it. Let's take a quick break to talk about some of our partners for this episode and we'll be back to talk about how and our whole life okay. I'm going to talk to you guys about fabrics. We are getting into lugging season in everybody. It'll be out here shorts anymore. 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I feel like people forget that demis relationship was what week yeah which is like okay if you we distract ourselves so much and I think it's is a good reminder coming back from it to like get the fuck off of my phone more and like not sit at home and watch net flicks need to it's not like a great thing for me or anybody and because you cut all that stuff away and you all you have is other people in like building really asking people whether it's like friendships or intimate whatever in a different way and which phone is buzzing and that's knowing my eighties acting as you're saying. You're like trying to get away from your exact. I think a lot of people the vibrates till on her phone do not me. I can't nuts your doesn't vibrate here right. It's always always ah yes people. I think people don't realize that like you guys have nothing on on on on any of those shows no phones no magazines like that's why you'll see people like fucking and working out the laying. Cabana or do push ups on the beach basically back in the thirteen hundred options. That's all all you can do is just like me. That's why people see like a couple who are just literally draped on top of each other all the time or people who are and it's really sweaty buddy working out and trying to like peacock in some way boys girls over here but dating other people. I don't know I always think back to our parents. Generation did a lot more like dating around and Dana People at the same time that I remember is in high school. When I came home by early eighteen my boyfriend that we start dating in high school when I came him and he cheated on me and my mom relax and she was like what are you talking about your eighteen. What do you what do you mean. He cheated. Why don't you kiss somebody else and she's like why who cares. I mean my parents had to kind of be like she's upset. She's really upset. I think my Mama this whole view of like I was dating someone when I met your a father like we were. We dated a bunch of people. That's the crazy thing because I may not meet whoever you can date whoever you can until you find the person you want to standstill with. Do you know there's like some weird thing I read once wants like eighty five percent people that end up like married. We're dating someone else at the time that they met the person yeah and yeah so I think we see as such a negative thing or a bad thing but the truth is that comes back to what we were just talking about before you can't force somebody to be like something or feel something yeah and why like why the hell do we have these negative views on when somebody's just like sorry not my person. That's that's how it is instead we go to our friends or like over God. He's such a Dick. You know I have a question for you. Then I think everybody will probably very different feeling about this but like when you are casually dating around your day like three or four people and we all dating apps that we can go on seven days a week and you have instagram. I'm sure there's a million girls in your. DM's every thanks John Paul Jones for making people I there was I kid you not. I got like two thousand in the course of our when that scene showed aired where he said that I that's what I do. I was like I I didn't expect this. Everyone would be like everyone was like hey we heard and they're like Oh. My God dare checks. They just like went in so that is so funny. That is very funny little slots. I'm here for it. You know what you want something. Go get it okay so I have a question for you. When do you think that you have to make the call to like be monogamous or share the information like. Should you tell somebody that you're dating other people. Do you tell people that you're dating other other people. I think this is a huge gray area. There's no right answer right. Totally I think at first like you just assume that they are. I don't know right and I I have met people who who are like. We went on a date with somebody else recently. I think it's like it's all about communication is just talking about that and that's why like I say they were surprised that I was like well. I went on did this with somebody else instead of instead of doing it and like hiding it being straightforward with that and I'm sure that because of that there's some people who I've met who are like Nope oops. I can't do that. That's fine like that's this is where I am in my stage of what I'm able to be open with you. I'm doing my thing uh-huh. Oh well in that yeah. I think a lot of it comes down to ego to people just want to be the only one yes and it's kind of like girls feel that way and they're like I'm being this guy and I really like him and he's dating someone else else and it's like well then you're going to do with somebody else like you can do the same thing. There's a point at which it's like. You can't ask other people to not even that guy. I dated all summer or like he sort of asked me. We're GONNA how he phrased it but I was like I'm not gonNA ask. You don't do other people because I don't think we're there and I'm not gonNa tell you that. I'm not either but like if if you don't WanNa talk about it. Let's not talk about it. Then you know you know many people hold onto that too and they're like what onto why they want to be exclusive somebody but they don't want to be the one to say it so I don't WanNa be resent. Some I WANNA say at. I guess it ultimately comes. I mean people worry about just like sex too. I mean that's that's that's when you have that conversation like I don't know I guess just if you don't want to have those conversations just use condoms across the board but I hate condoms just Kinda like are you fucking anybody. Only I'm only asking because my doesn't hate them but I don't want to use them at all all and if we do we use condoms or sponsor but I get mad when we say this. I'm like write. It penetrates me. I'm like I'm cleaning you. Clean also guys guys. Joke is okay as the half safe sex don't do we is healthy like we're not advising anything like whatever we could get necessary tomorrow who's to say people get all worked up about this but I think that's what it comes down to where you're like. I don't I don't want to have this. What are we conversation but I'm worried about my vagina and the health of it you know I don't know I don't have many thoughts on that yeah in my case your dog and everybody hey. What's funny still to this day here? I am thirty two years old and I still get nervous going biking condoms you ooh. I thought I was so nervous. I the first time nobody I bought condoms this summer. With this guy we went to this onto the Bodega and I was like to condoms and kind of dragging. She's like and I was like what like what are the like. Those kind of like black is using shows like magnums and I was like we don't need those writing the guy. I was like whatever small white people use and he continues data for a while also guys while Oh USA you brought them up a couple of times that next week full download and all that and just letting you know yes people are like why would you bring it up but not tells and we're and what happened next next week. Derrick mark what kind of okay we're gonNA take a pause. I'm back and do the story yeah. Let's we'll take another quick break. Okay conham sponsor. Hey this would have been perfect. Okay first up. 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Finally it was like are and are like finals tests so we knew that we were going to have in the day because you got to go home from school. Yeah like in the middle of that is when you would talk. There's still working right. If you didn't lose your virginity at four o'clock in the afternoon show late schools already at one o'clock. It was a long walk. Yeah we have it to fifteen and then you've got warm it up a little ed saying it was mid day. 'cause you had finals so it was like study hall as your parents are still working you go to. Wendy's and you get chicken sandwich and then you guys yeah but I had finally got them that morning and I go in and it's like five thirty in the morning. I go walmart going back where you got your pants pants. It's that I'm wearing really great. Josh designer and they're from Walmart in Iowa. Johnston Jogger Pant does right you love them. Don't believe these are from Mama can check the tag anyway. Take your pants. We it is way anyone's shutting me at my panic. They are expected to be the one Florida. It's me from Jacob off. Let me check the so it's like my coaches daughter. WHO's there of course so now. It's even worse. I got like fifteen things to wrap around. The box. Talks have gone so that it's not not seeing whatever so we owner house start getting busy and she's like the condoms yes S. So I run upstairs. Yeah grab them good to go. Virginie's broke in for both of us great great news good experience. Yeah had a good good. I experience yeah time to go back to school can't find the keys to the car. Go back upstairs. The condom boxes on the driver's seat. My keys are sitting on the driver's exit. Car doors locked. I'm parked in her. Dad's parking spot happy. It's like get a ride back to school and had to have as we had to. Have the sex talk <music> time why it was the most because you know like Oh. I wonder why his car thing he's going to do is look in the cars parts of first thing. I would do it daughter. I'd be like what is this little shit how it in his car first thing. I would do what he parked in my spot absolutely God. Take your daughter but yikes had you met them before. We're still friends this day once a week. Thanks so much for you. Was He. Your coach I know he was he was coach. Oh my coaches. which is that's daughter? Wow God Christian. I can feel Christian vibes of course of course Jesus I was. I talk about reality and dating like real in real life glad that you brought this up. Do you feel like it hurts helps. I I mean clearly. You're you have more notoriety people. You can people. Dm You and like you just said and stuff like that. But do you feel like there's a stigma or don't WanNa Donahue or wanted to. Do you think you have to be careful like I want to talk about all of it. It's both actually personally. It's the same thing again. Do you guys obviously talk about this all the time because it is a real thing the ones who unlike I wanNA actually date. Her are the ones who go yeah. It's Kinda dumb that you did that. That's back. You're on the show so I'll tell you story about the day that I met you. I'm like what a year ago the three of us at a party and I like saw you across the room and I was like oh he's so cute and my friend was like oh he was on the bachelor and I was like Oh. I'm not interested no no offense and then I came up to really talking and I was I had such a good time talking to you is so much fun and then I was like Oh. He's just like a normal charming guy but I feel like I don't know. I don't know if people really think it's greater my initial. A knee jerk was I would never date somebody that was on reality TV for a couple of reasons. I was like what's wrong with somebody wants to do that. Oh for sure other part is I was like I can't be out. I'm in my thirties thirties. I can't compete with the twenty four year. Olds Slat into your offer to blow you so I'm that I would love for you to talk about but that's exactly it right like it's not it's it's good in the sense like that's what you WanNa do and that was actually what the whole argument. You saw like come up. That's what you WanNa do if you even want girls that signed near DMZ want to hook up with with them. Go ahead but that's up to you. I'm not here to tell you what to do. Yeah because you're asking me that question like Oh girl side into your dams and can you do to camp you. You can do whatever you want. That's up to you man but it's like if if you're if you're trying to pass if you want to date somebody for longer than a week. It's it's it's harder because then you don't know who to trust. I think and that's like the biggest problem from a dating perspective is like I don't trust people to actually do what Oh you did by the way which is like oh I got to know him and now I know him. I think that our too much surprised is a few more times. We really data super together think I didn't get the prime. CD Like touches cheer when when Rena makes a joke acute touchy Hewlett Brad or phases read. That's probably just sheepishly. She was generally later and you could see me blushing now. Okay so you prefer somebody to be more like like not into it but then gets to know you and for somebody to be exactly exactly like Raynham okay. Wow this really happened. I only from Iowa now. I gotTa do definitely prefer somebody who like Addison Addison Yeah. I think that's like itself is enough right. I just met somebody normally and because of that. I know that they're not they don't care too much. That's really what imagine anything more than anything like. They don't care so much. It's just it's just like somebody else to them. And I feel like you can probably pick up on that pretty easy conversation like if how do you feel like I feel like you when you meet a guy on a shrimp because guys on it so you have a super huge platform to write you are. I don't know I think it I'm like you would immediately. GRANA immediately turn turns me off a little bit but then it's like. Am I being hypocritical like I put my whole life out there a two. It's just on a different format. No I meant for you and I know you talk about it every day but like if a guy approaches you specific and like if you're on a first date with a guy listener. I think this is interesting. Do you want a guy like actually I listen to your show and I love it. Yeah it's it's. I don't know it's weird things. That's Derek feels the same way. It's like you have a different level. I Love I hate to even use the word fame for us but you know you're on TV. We have this podcast but we still have a following and you know we still people know who we are and it's my biggest fear that someone just wants to fuck me so we can say that and same with you and I hate the thought of it. Do you get that vibe sometimes times of course that's ninety five of it. They thought John Krasinski absolutely do. I'm the Walmart version of him <music>. I'm where is Walmart Walmart sponsor this wall. I'll be your Walmart. Emily Blunt and that's her name. Yeah Alright Everley. By what kind do you like. People are GonNa WanNa know this okay. So kind of girls are like looks looks. Aren't that important to me. I mean it's just like obviously attraction action matters so I don't. I don't have specific thing. I shouldn't say that <hes> I think that's good. I like something like is that our is ah the almond shape or whatever the people say. It's like usually a thing yeah. Great Great Brown is kind of guy are natural tale. There's aren't extensions minor extensions Glaucoma tear. Do you feel like you've had a glow off. Have you had any worked on pause on wells the other week he asked me if I could be a serial real killer and I pause and he was like wait. Why are you like maybe I don't now resides talking about mindhunter or like he just volunteered this tale so what's the pay but like for me what it is is somebody who I'm a big personality and I want to be met like equal there yeah in like somebody will call me <music> out for things if I have like opinionated disagree basically just want them to have their own opinions. That's just such a weird thing but a lot of women are taught that like they shouldn't do that any rain and I can't. I cannot relate at all so it's also like I don't know I I mean obviously that but there's plenty of guys that just want a submissive submissive not opinionated. Oh there's a ton of guys want that wrong with wanting and I think that there's a lot of guys that say they want somebody. That's opinionated and they get it. It and they're like well. I don't want this. I agree with you now well. Maybe they're like. I wanted like on a on a scale of opinions. I wanted like a seven year like thirteen. It's too much I love those long people. The thing is the way I wanNA is someone who's not an asshole about it. Yeah there's people who have opinions and they're like no one hundred percent percent right but somebody who likes set speak their mind but then also listens to you that's huge. That's a I think that's there's not many people that do that. You guys probably do that because you're also like doc doing this. This is actually what you do day out too by the way we always word contrary and like some people just have to argue with everything. It's just stop. It like like let it go. Let me point devil's advocate here. Oh God golic and I hate that person that you're like the sky is blue and they're like well. Actually they just like come on. It's just a reflection of the scene okay John Paul Jones you. Those people go belong like on read it somewhere in their own yeah in their own subcategories avenue. Do you actually really in the well actually person you get kind of political on instagram which I like because I feel I want to say that Bachelor nation could be a little right-leaning. Just I feel like what what we've seen the people that they pick our seem like they cater to that type of viewership and I like that you. You're not like so outspoken but you stand up for what what you believe in and I do. You feel like does that to you. In a person gets more. I think the big thing with whether or not you talk about how you feel politically from a lot of like different reality stars where like anybody who's been in the public eye. They don't want blowback like they're afraid of that they they they need more fans aunts. They WANNA have more fans than that. That's because that's maybe like the only thing that they do so I think because of the fact that I have my own separate thing that I do my normal nine to five boring job I am. I don't care so much. About how many fans do I have for me. This is a representation of who I am and if I think stuff I would talk to my friends about this stuff then. I'm also going to put it out there in the same way you know and so like I don't have any fear at all you know. It's like it's laughable. Some of the opinions of people have love and I think like highlighting laughable that is sometimes is important for people to see like they should see how stupid some of the Shit that people send me an applied to my like like political thoughts or I don't know just like I feel like that's just life to politics is not just politics is also just texted impacts more like. I don't get political. I'm like do you live a life in this country. I also think if you have a voice and you don't use it to stand up for what you believe in your voice means nothing like I talked about his and people think me thank us I mean I'm really outspoken about my beliefs on social media people say thank you and I'm like for literally what like they don't expect it and for me. It should be the norm. It's like why are you. Why are you not using your voice. Why did you build this brand for just just to please everybody like I think you're always going to get ahead by speaking up for what you believe in in in not like a pick aside way but just for what you think is right. Is there anything you're passionate about that. Keeps you up at night like why are you not using using your voice yeah do you not we go out and say like well. I'm not listening. We're rarely political but we're a female founded business. Of course we're GonNa talk about abortion and things like that. We've got people come for us and say like I'm not listening to your show anymore and you're gonNA. You'RE GONNA lose thousands listeners. We're like that's fine. You don't have to agree with US and you're not to listen to our show but we're not going to not talk about women's rights and women's body just because hundreds of thousands of people don't like it. That's fine so here's my back to what I said. Yeah you can disagree if somebody but also still listen to their opinion right and that's like somebody who is one hundred percent. I cut that off. That's fine. I don't that's not the kind of person I want. I have I have people who think very differently than me who are really close friends but we both can openly talk about it and and they'd be like no nodding really derail the trails out there. I'm talking about abortion. I'm talking about other topics like what Bachmann Komo News Talk Okay Gotcha money. I WanNa talk about this 'cause. I didn't think we were going to really talk about this but we want to do a whole episode on and I'm but I'm curious to hear what you think. What do you think about like girls doing thirst traps and stuff on instagram Missouri Line. Do you find do you feel like guys are like Oh. I see what she's doing Wayne. They're like dumb and they're like no. That's hot. There's a line because there's definitely thought about. That's definitely third straps. I see and I'm like we. Let's talk about what made you think of this. I don't know Derek hough. I wanted to see him post that they're strapped strap. Not Why don't you post more. Thor's trap is I. I really don't you're guy. It's it's a weird is posing is not for me about dating APPS. Girls Girls say over and over and over like I don't want a guy with a pitch shirtless. Literally like fifteen south is doc fees and it's all them making duck face or guys looking laughed. I don't WanNa look at a guy just staring off into the distance. It's like portrait mode. Photo personnels curls weird so okay third strapless talk about him for girls okay. <hes> I WANNA say no. I don't like them but I constantly only find myself just being like okay. Let's go through this. I'm looking and I'm like all right not liking. Oh I talk with Ross recently only about this by the way Brian Dick Orient Yeah. No episode called the Guy who broke his dick over a year ago. I I guess you guys are friends. Also look masturbated both U. That's okay. What does that mean there so you can imagine talking sex with since you can't. I just don't know that I can imagine it is. I wish you could see is right now. What is eighty second episode. I've never seen rain as so comfortable uncomfortable and nervous nervous. You're usually the one making people uncomfortable. I know I can't make Derek uncomfortable. Maybe that's what it is like. I look at him and he's like you can't get to me. He really is he's. He's out doing you yeah. It's it's hard for me okay. So are you dating girl. I have okay yeah. I think like the tough the thing that is you have to not care and be like very confident in the fact that they're not also doing that because of the fact that they're trying to find new guys that that's just like the way that they get lax. Yeah Okay Yeah but the thing about that is like eventually like that has never worked out because of the fact that the if they're so focused on their phone the attention that they're getting from there so I think that's like the negative thing about it actually at their core they're like I need attention Tasmania exactly but I think there's traps here and their you know their foot fifth post or something like instagram story only what instagram program story a third strap every day and you want to read and I like I don't I wouldn't I wouldn't judge that you seem like the kind of Guy Like 'cause rain and I ah do them every once in a while and we like own it and self deprecating about it and I think you seem like you'd be the kind of guy like that like I all all it go into address the room if I'm feeling like then and I like the lighting and I'll be like they're having a half off sale today and it's just like a clear Thurs trap like I like to poke fun at it. We all know what we're doing to see my body right right but I'm GonNa give a funny caption so exactly the ones that are too much. Is You had the head wow I didn't actually realize that until just now that's the ones I have been like okay well. Maybe we'll see what's ironic. These athletes where they're like. They have a quote by someone famous. That's not at all related to what they're doing. Marilyn Monroe quote or it's like it's like a selfie like a sexy duck face selfie and it's like everybody get out and vote today and they're dead series fair like immigrants like save the immigrants and they're like the duck face like his terrible person. I can't stand because it's like twice. You're reaching for attention in one both ways. Oh it's a double race okay. Here's what I will say. I could never post something like like that and knock it roasted by everybody in my life and that's what I like about my friends. I posted something like a few weeks ago because I was thirst dropping somebody in my I- apartment I was wearing like a little crop and a pair of like boy shorts and I was just like work attire like nine. AM thirst trap and my girlfriend immediately my vagina lines at nine am Tuesday and that's the kind of people I want in my life. I've absolutely that's why after all the attention ah still the same person because my friend hasn't changed. It's so accurate. It's like your friends. Keep you grounded or your family members. I mean who is the girl out here like. What are your friends like that. Nobody is making fun of you because like I post. I like the Ironic Shit and then I post people making fun. The Ironic Shit like I posted all the text messages after that getting made fun of Sir absolutely so like I don't know make your Thurs traps funnier girls i. I don't know I mean but again. Not Everybody is funny yeah. I just think I've never in my life ever GonNa offend people with us. I don't care I've never in my life life taking a selfie and been like that's going on. The feed no even matt like every once in a while. I'll take a guess. It'll be my story every once. I don't even know like I've looked at some people speed. I'm like where is what do you do day to day. There's one that like it's all self. I know what your face looks like. It's crazy to me like someone's like there. It has nailed it nailed. It's going to be a permanent posts. What steps did you go through to. The one that like this is my the most annoying one to me and this is probably a little bit controversial because it's like it's people who probably need a little bit of support and attention. It's when they ask for that right like a whole nine paragraphs long so I've been such things. This happened this happened. I've been struggling a little bit lately so I'm just GonNa Post this because I I look sexy in this one and I'm I'm just I see that and my brain just goes. Why are you posting on Instagram. I am to get the positive like that's not. That's don't do that. It's not it's not good. That's the worst now now. You're like positive reinforcement of the worst possible bowl tension right and that's where it all starts. That's how every instagram thought was was born. Yeah what's with that post nine people being like I've been going through electorally electorally like really hard but they won't say what it is that you they get flooded with comments. I hope you're okay what's going on. We're like home for a few days for a tragedy and like we Dr Stratton sympathy say he'll maybe someone I dated and it was like the most sympathy I drop. It was like he was like it's it's been really rough but we we made it through or something like that and then all the people are like what's wrong at the same time as it is like a Selfie. That's looking whatever ever you know I don't know yet. You're so right. It's so funny where you're like that person admitting that they're looking for validation on instagram which is I hate to knock what anybody's anybody's doing but I'm also like. I just hope you figure it out. I hope you find other ways to deal with it because it's not real go to go to therapy. They don't post that on instagram yeah. They viewed looking for some help or a dog. Do you said you go to therapy. Always Always Guy Cry Derrick Derrick. That's really what it is at the catalyst you in the car and you dial therapist. You felt the release and you just go pay. Somebody let me do this weekly which is kind of a weird thing to think about. This is just like happening right now but you just said like you can't get to me but I'm also a sensitive guy like I am sensitive guy. No I just meant. I can't make you uncomfortable. I could like I can make you feel bad about yourself. Probably we start. We start the rose why we brought you here today. Yeah you're sensitive guy. Are you wearing man bracelets. I'm so glad you brought up the bracelets. 'cause I've been like where's the window to bring up the brakes. It's a new thing for me is trying it it out because the therapist she she's like try your emotional side where bracelets the first time. I put one on like all I can think of is I don't know if <unk> friends watchers but when Ross Lake tries to wear leather bracelet and his hand like blows on friends yeah yeah so awesome all that leather because I didn't happen. I was like okay yeah. I think that Guy Yeah Okay so you cried once on the bachelor and start going to therapy also. She's like a spiritual life coach for people so sweet so too. I've a sex rock on my bed. What those are friends especially when she was like what we talked about this in on the intro and she gave me a stone put under my bad for sexual prosperity and this new apartment you can check it out later yeah. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA leading after we were acquired. You could stay okay so your mom back to your mom. My mom turned into sex rock. I'm making them uncomfortable. Nice work fan correct. Saudi Saudi had to because of that. I've always been a talker so I'm the one if there's anything that happens in a relationship chip that because of I think she and I would would talk through any issues or anything like going through the kid my mom so if like in a relationship I've been issue with some with the person I'm with you know some people get mad and they have to go for a walk or something and then they come back and they're they're fine. It's all gone. I have to talk to you so right away. I don't I don't let it I can't let it go to find a good spot right not to find understanding or whatever and that annoys some people but that's I think why like I also okay. Therapies just made sense for me at that point too. I got to recognize that I think basil different as they get older. I think I've realized that my reaction to something in the moment is actually not how I'm GonNa feel in two thousand four from that's everybody but it's not how I'm GonNa feel in twenty four hours so I knew like just sort. Take a beat and separate because like I know what you're going to get for me. Minute one is like anger and in a few hours or a day you're GonNa get like compassionate and understanding so I do personally really need some space. We'll do you do you have you. Do you know the Anagram. Obviously I haven't done it yet so we should actually episode on the last ball my I yeah I don't. I only know it from reading Chelsea Handler's most recent book life will be the death of me highly recommended but I just know what I am because I'm the same as her and it's like what your initial reaction. It's based on what your initial reaction reaction is faced with conflict or something like that and it's like anger fear or sadness. I think an anger beyond so I can't react to the moment. It's not good good. I've got I've got to take a few breaths like I guess she's boring lanes without me. She's got on boys talked about. We talked about earlier and I've gotten better but do you feel like that's a flaw that are you saying you work on in therapy. No no no. It's not a fly knowing myself. I think because of that that's why I was like naturally drawn to speak to somebody to <hes> this therapy. I love talking about myself. Why do you think I got a podcast. You were wonderful on the show. At least what we saw. During is across the great came across you you had somebody coming at you really aggressively and they were also unwilling to <hes> talk which was to watch you diffuse that with this crazy person that was just in your face but also not willing to talk was very crazy. I've never evers really seen someone act that wild and I was the first time I've ever been in that intensive. <hes> you just don't even know what to call it. Do you think that it irrational DASS. This obviously amped up for television a little bit on his end but like it's just like that. I think he's just like that like I think he just snapped John and and also you know not to get too but like the way the show works is you are a little that. He said he was tired anxious but I don't know when I drink a whole bunch and you're you're like you're you're kind of a different version of yourself people on that show it probably do have like hangover anxiety and their heat exhausted and then the cameras in your face. I don't I'm not all the reality. TV shows are low like a little bit right. Let's get people in in this crazy. Stay in love them comfortable being in like a different in different instate yeah when you do you talk about relationships and therapy obviously. What do you feel like your biggest issue that you feel like you need to work through. When it comes to relationships Asian ships like we all have our own our thing my maybe she was just like walls right now because of the fact that I protect myself so much like don't trust people because of the show yeah yeah exactly that's fair. That's totally like my thing I go. I waver between like just be Thuc entrusting too much and then and be like nope not trusting anybody just like back and forth and I haven't been able to find like comfortable. I would be scared if I were you. I'd be frightened of area. I mean you really really half a million followers on national television my first thought would be what is this person want for me. Your great guy good looking girl the things but like I mean Ashley touched her leg again guys like when I think about what I want. I want somebody who's like really really proud of me and so excited and like so excited to tell people what I do but not not necessarily somebody. That's a fan hard to find that balance like I want to be be a Fatemi 'cause. They're proud of me. Not a fan like a fan girl. Yes you now. Have you dated someone since you started the bachelor or Bachelorette. I guess that was not part of the whole thing like have you have relationship with yeah and a couple girl who I actually went to college with. I'd like went the other hours ago. This is somebody I know so I can trust them. Yeah yeah well yeah. That was the whole thing. She then cheated on me later so so I couldn't trust her either. I know now and then there's there's been a couple of other people and it's always been again like somebody who is basically like yeah that shows dumb you shouldn't have done that and and then I for me and perfect you don't care but the difference is exactly what you said. Usually that has broken down to where they're like ashamed to tell people or ashamed that people come up to me and and to me now. I'm like okay. Wait a minute because that's this is a part of who I am ashamed. That's that's bullshit like. That's not okay right now. You're now like I don't understand why you're comfortable dating me because if you can't if you can be proud of all of me you were supportive of all of them then. This shouldn't be anything that we're doing in the first place. Oh absolutely I can't. I can't imagine if someone just demeaned something that I did. She has this is podcast. We don't really talk about you know like it would be yeah. No don't take that but you're not GonNa Change Your Life. I mean I've talked about this. A couple times on on the podcast but like somebody said to me like somebody is public. Public is you is my is my worst nightmare. That's what he said to me and I was like so devastated by like walked out of the bar and I was crying straight but I was a now like action talk about this so much like I'm not gonNA. Change my life or somebody so it's like if I'm your worst nightmare then that's how that person feels and that's just gonNa out how it's going to be. I'm not going to change my whole career and my life offend my friendships structure and my best friend and my business because of one person no matter what goes back to what's the perfect picture that we pay like what's the picket fence picture and how stupid that is how bullshit that is that like if people can't just accept others for who they are you know maybe this person wanted not make much money and they choose to like be a social worker. Whatever that's like if that if that's your barrier you know like I'm ashamed of the fact that they are not making whatever like six figures a year. That's that's something that you can really easily. Look at me like well. That's really shitty that they would feel that way about that person right. How is that any different than what you're talking about right now. It's actually literally the same the same thing it's it's doesn't matter what it is not like this episode. This is great it up with some other stuff as I'm sure yeah we're GONNA okay. I've gotten really deep I. I'm going to ask you a question if you I wanna take some photos now we didn't we didn't want us to be like a solely bachelor episode because he's actually this great person and he's interesting smart-looking. WanNa talk about what other stuff with him but we did post on her instagram story what people what kind of questions they had for you so we are going to answer okay actual nation questions and if anything's to private you'll tell us no spoiler okay so yeah do do you just run through them. You WanNa do it. I Okay I have I have have I just want to lob the first question to you and then she can do all the questions. I wasn't talking to you Derek. It's not about me. I'm so the first class she was earlier. We're talking about the. I have a girlfriend that one the bachelor years ago. My first question for her was what a lot of people last is when you're not like on a date or filming what do you do all day. I mean on the Bachelorette. We had a bunch of people brought guitars of course because everyone wanted to be a professional musician everyone to be a jed. Ed that really worked out and I don't think anyone has vowed kicked off a career yet from doing that so I don't know why people keep thinking they can. You're trying you do so you thirst trapped the guitarist. Oh a little bit but we haven't even talked about your career off. You WanNa follow dare at Ah there. You like you like black and white wait. I've been meaning to tell you I I didn't I didn't masturbate to this but I probably could have like like slow dancing in a burning room one of my favorite songs you really got into it John Floating senior burning room. Would you some program for this. <hes> garage band graduated and I was like this is what I love that song. That's what the song also describes every relationship. I've ever been exactly exactly anyway right. That's why I can get into it so much. Every relationship is is always a burning but here we are. We're still dancing. We're still doing it. I'm still gonNA run this crowned still smiling giving him a Bali. You can watch him singing into a microphone with his guitar. I'm sorry that's what you do all day long. You just sit around drink while you're by yourself of course and they've instituted this new thing where you can have two drinks per hour. That's a bunch of articles about that now okay but I'm just because they think they want people to not they don't want. They don't think that's not what the show is about. How Stupid Bravo show how stupid they like like wanted to still be about like the relationships and stuff so you know. Just try whatever it's doing this for twelve hours a day all day every day just talk so they want you to have truth serum but not too much true. Sierra just to to our all right. Let's go through this. I guess we'll do we have plead the Jeff. If you can't answer it okay go as far as you go. Play the fourth okay number one. Obviously I WANNA know this to you. Would you be the bachelor I yeah. I think I think when it comes down to that question you know people. There's a lot of back and forth on this. Actually I'm going to ramble on this one the time so <hes> I think this comes back to people being afraid of someone seeing they fully are on Mike in Public and trying to do the thing that they're supposed to do and that's a PR thing going back for years and years and years of course so people are always like well. I don't know it's it's like a really big responsibility and like it's the lead on a TV. Show right. It's not you're not becoming president of the United States. That's it says the same these days is the perfect launching point to the president after that. You should be the bachelor okay long as you know who you are and you don't think that that would change from being on the show if people are like not sure of themselves. They don't do it very much. I know who I am and so why would I worry about that changing me in some way. That's a super cool thing I can always go back and be a banker anchor at any time so I think it's I think it's ridiculous how much people downplay that and I think it's it's more about <hes> <hes> them trying to put a certain image out for themselves and again. That's stupid like we've had enough of that. People need to stop doing that stuff. I love the. You answer that way. I I just think people people I mean. Don't get me started the black bachelor. I have a lot of thoughts but I mean people overwhelmingly a word I think like I saw a lot of you kind of late in the game and then just so much Mike aac but Mike for the most part yeah. Mike is Commenting on Demi. lovato's INSTAGRAM's Demi lovato posted a really great instagram post showing her body on edited edited and her cellulite cellular was the Hashtag. It was really great and Mike Mike Virtually Mike got in there because these these bachelor people or dating tyler allegedly dating gee-gee he is dating or her grandma died. He went with her to the furious flew over to Europe yeah for a funeral in when he dated like major majors they are. You guys are really huge celebrities today. It's so so while I think wells broke that barrier wells walks with the girl from Sarah. Yeah Okay I have a question. I think this is funny. How much sex actually happens during Bachelor in paradise. I think originally like that. I didn't do it the first time around like after the Bachelorette because people were like Oh. It has a bad rap. It's just like them having sex on the beach the whole time you're like. I'm not going to play in this. Extra may know at the time I'm celebrate celebrate now therapy and our bracelets. God come on this show. You can't take a joke. Osso fuck. You didn't even say anything just trying going to get her back by putting my hand on her leg and she won't know what to say but so there's there's booms keep it there. We're told you stop and they have the AC in them so that's where all I would be doing was fucking like that's what they see is. All I'm doing is fucking or or do you just go there. You pretend like you're going to ask for Bait so I'm in the boom boom room. masturbating we gotta talk about look so hot and every man is is beads of sweat. Mexico in this tape. It's it's in June so it's very quickly quickly and four hours a week kick its allies. June Mexico and it doesn't look like there's any AC in the bedroom areas right. No there's noise. Why why don't they put in the bedroom? Guess fans. This is like the resort that they have which is like buicks really is but but that's one of the things they just don't. Oh have but that's that's a whole thing in a lot of like Central America yeah. It's just like to open yeah exactly thank God. Can you imagine filming a TV show at a Marriott now that they saw on point you know I'm a huge iron macy. AC basically around the clock. I love my I should be more. I mean people are gonNA listen to episode. It's GonNa be like the Dan soder episode or who was really flirting with people. Oh really liked you for Dan soder well. He used to be his dad but he's not anymore. I do is do we need a new Dan now. He has oh come on whose current DAD become body trainer. Oh yeah obviously sorry I was thinking about the guests while we're talking about talking about dogs. I have to say this tweet this favorite tweets about when people were really on twitter like Derek for the Bachelor and it was two screen shots Derek of your follows on instagram and and she tweeted. Can we talk about how Derek recently followed twenty plus dog accounts in a row. This is the kind of bachelor energy we need in our lives and also someone please check on him so I was talking with my therapist. I knew your therapist is going to come into your dog. They're like you need to get bracelets first of all because the actor and star following dogs on Instagram I mean the thing is like going back to our thirst trap conversation. I I just got so tired of seeing the same shit all the time on my feet and it was like all people looking for attention and I mean of course this is people with dogs who are looking for their dogs hawks. Get attention but I mean attention. I look at that. Inches like makes me happy. I actually recommend everybody go find as many Arkansas'. You can count on your instagram feed and you you will it's my whole dogs and Corgis and there's like eight Kuala counts. I follow him. I can let you know if you're interested and also at one time someone did Google my follows and they just probably typed in like start to type the word Corgi and like they saw at least at least fifty Corgi so dare. Oh you are doing your dad now. People really want to know just in general like just like is like that. Was it okay back. He's like that. I think like something that a lot of people to things so first of all. There's so many questions about like how scripted is or like stuffing it is that's that's so many people asset and when stuff like that happens there will it was obviously a scripted scenario. No this is a unscripted show. That's like what reality. TV is technically called right is like unscripted yeah <hes>. This is an unscripted show. We are living our lives. There's zero guidance on. They are not like you know like. Can you try that again. Can you get in a different way. Okay No. They're not actors frigging work at a bank. I'm not when an actor side an actor who can cry on command in front of a camera but not bad rap like you see shows like the hills which have so. Da You never see them talking. It's a lot of voice though is like our dream talking but they'll be filming Heidi because it's all voice overs because there can you say that in a different way ah you hear a different tone. It's really talking. The hills even feels more scripted like I think the ads they're doing now like it feels different than the Bachelorette. Well that iconic like last seen a yea. We'll all the all the all the SATS staff and I thought that was so great exactly but I think that's what started it where people people think that and I think a lot of people going back. I've always called people out for this. They make they use that and they use that as an excuse to say all. That was the editing eh that is really not the case is really really hard to get get a bad edit and that is strictly seriously like that is just a bullshit did excuse and whenever P if if people say that in front of me to that have been on the show before I'll be like you know you have an excuse that is I had the same opportunity say the same stuff you don't get to put words in people's mouth like they say those things ensure like of course. There's like weird circumstances. Whatever stressful scenarios be still get to choose. Nobody's making those decisions for you yeah. You're still working on your mouth. This is not a question. That's what it says. She says not a question but I totally let that man where my vagina breathing apparatus Addis. I don't even know what you're thinking about it. You wear breathing for autism like I think she doesn't mean. She wants her face with her vagina this. You probably can't answer this but whatever we'll ask it anyway. Who was a better kisser? Teixeira Demi twitted you kiss station. You don't want to answer. How are you called Demi. Yeah and what did you think of Christian Christian now. She seemed cool. She seemed like really like Loki. I I liked her energy like especially considering that. She got thrown into situation. She was not ready for that was crazy about her. I have a question <hes>. This girl is really after my own heart. What do they eat on Bash. Compare and let's talk about the day if it's arena. She's not as invested but they don't eat the food and they address it. I feel like for the first time on this season. That was one of my favorite scenes where they were like. You don't eat the food show Australia all these beautiful plates food. If you guys don't aren't familiar show and you never eat which a lot of it's probably because of your mic`ed up and you can't listen to you. Chewing and eating talk and eat is it. It's not it's real food if you go back and look at the earliest seasons they they actually it's not a good. It's learned from from that yeah because you're gonNA have a conversation with food and burning out yeah exactly you know when you go on a date and it actually takes you like it's a good date you know because it takes you like an hour and a half two year food gambler aww actually talking right and then taking little bites here and there so. I also like with the Mexican obviously you chew. That's going to sound super weird so they they feed us. Basically whatever we want to at the at the paradise in what's what kind of scenario is there like buff as that out or do you guys order food all day. A lot of talk goes tacos Guacamole. There's a crap services kind of thing all right so my favorite thing about so glad you asked Jay how many times that he throw up you throw up every predate on my God. I didn't know all of that so now and I'm watching it back. I don't know what kind of Yorkshire it is for your stomach but uh-huh mastercard fuck you up food poisoning at my life. Let's see I have a bad experience with that to me. Dad I got so skinny. It was right before our holiday shows. I looked amazing. It's the best I ever locked someone wrote. This is one of the questions we ask questions for you. Derrick and someone asked us our tickets to your New York show on ticketmaster real. They are guys go to master. You're totally single right now right okay. was there anyone who wasn't on Bachelor in paradise that you were hoping they would send down. They ask to ask advance because they do no not really so you know I actually I always went into. I went into both shows just like super open minded and especially more with this is actually the first time through like Taylor with somebody else like on. I don't WanNa meet her and then we ended up because you never know starting relationship because you never know yes so this around and they asked me. Is there like who do want. Would you not want basically I was just like whatever I'll get there and all your whoever are so you and you showed me that instagram you guys can go look at j.p days instagram and what Derek commented and thrown mm some shade. It was beautiful. I wouldn't say your friends correct so the funny thing together it is. We are best friends. Someone like that just is like willing to put somebody else somebody else on the bus. It's just such a shitty thing to do and plus especially like watching it back now and seeing like go around and try to control the people around you. I mean that was the I'll think about the kind of people what do that in your life that are willing to do that. You don't want it that guy. He's twenty twenty. I always think about like we've whatever I had. I've had a problem with somebody recently. <hes> who's much younger than me and I keep being like leather young. They're young. They're young but then I try to think like well when I was that age I wasn't I wasn't it wasn't like that. Ah but I think that's probably who you are your core. I'm sure and ten years he will look back on and be like that was ridiculous or maybe even like in ten days. I mean he's already put this apology out there. Are you people WanNa know about Blake or you're like okay. Nice guy handled something really stupidly. Yeah really really stupidly. Okay that's fair. I like my number one. I thought he was so hot and I loved his whole vibe and then I obviously was very turned off by the whole thing and I don't know it seemed aware that he all of a sudden it was like wait. All all I've been looking for is right in front of me Christina. Yeah I mean the joke on our podcast last week that it was like every early two thousands ROM com. Someone said Mary met that Sally fact who is your people to know who your best friend is in the franchise wells. Oh well okay. I have a question as in. Do you watch the show. Do you watch yourself on the show every week every episode. It's very weird to yes I do. I take a little bit of alcohol to help me do. It's running shoes. Yeah I do I I when I listened back to our podcast. It's like taking a bullet like what am. I saying that I'm like Oh. It's not as bad as I think. It's go now. I don't can't relate I was talking to a guy or I'll just say I was. I was talking to Francis. We've had Francis on on his podcast and he doesn't listen back to his podcast and I was like Oh. I was like oh I do. I love it and he goes well yeah but you have to edit it. I'm like no no recreationally. I listen and he's like you're crazy 'cause you. I was in back so the TV shows like Oh yeah I do. Spontaneous blocked radar and Ashley income goes like Marina but I had a spire air to be an astronaut. So what were you saying. Listen back to our podcast all the time because I want to know like Oh that was good. That was really good. That was really bad. Don't do that again that kind of thing but I definitely listen backing laugh at us by myself on the subway. I'll be like laughing wind what's going on. He listened to us on a plane because it's so close and everybody's like what is washy crying when we edit this podcast exa- I edit it exactly. I want to sound so there's plenty of times. I've gone on other podcasts that I've listened back in cringes which is something. I've said meltdown recently because I was like I hate that I came across. This way ended up. Being fine overreacted per usual so let me see nicest compliment I ever ever got was I wanna be your brain a actually in the streets and rain on the sheets they always say are you arena at Ashley an overwhelmingly. It's actually in the streets right on the sheets so so basically trash bad what they're saying yeah pretty much pretty much okay Brady. Are you ready. This means really deep. What's your sign Terry Okay. What's your birthday. December sixth December six that was Scorpio Scorpio girl like October. How is it yeah. Why are you looking at me with the intense. Look like from from what I know. You guys are can be kind of like always want a new adventure kind of hard to pin down accurate or you feel pretty stable. I think that that might be accurate. Actually I don't know I've never I don't get into this stuff so I haven't thought about this. Is this is an odd off the top of the head. I've moved like seven times in the last nine years there. It is so sad energy big energy. You guys are my nightmare. 'cause I always fall in love guys like you and then you seem exciting. I really do I the I love the circle of me making one making you. I like this Guy Rousseau long also Sagittarius. He's like a various my birthday. It's a nightmare you people are nightmares but I can't can't quit you. See something China have to have it. That's people you're my shining. What do you feel across the board. I'M GONNA ask another around that. I want to know do women say like you're so something like that. They don that is that you are hard to pin down or. Are you feel like you're noncommittal at all. No actually once I once I feel like I wanNA commit towards someone. I definitely make that decision. I'm very much like I know my nose but I don't know like the maybe yes that one. It's a small group of people that I let point so I think because of that I shut down. A lot of people people early that where I'm just like no. I'm sorry this Mark Manson on the show <hes> the art of not giving a fuck article. He said if it's not funny guest fucked now exactly how that's how my thought processes to but. I don't know I don't know well. This has been so great ten. I WanNa Saturday. Thank you for. They first guest in this apartment. I know how to give my virginity story because you know here we are Virgen. You've you've christened. Okay any closing remarks. You want people to follow you. What do you plug your podcast. If you guys WANNA find it you'll find call the biggest I guessed ever. It's called the bachelor. Google me okay mic drop. Oh My wa now. We've had people way more famous than you did not say she don't all right guys google to find visit girls. GOTTI PODCAST DOT com shows dot com girls gotta you podcast and instagram girls underscore. GotTa eat on twitter and we'll see you at all of our shows. We Star holiday. Show get those tickets. They're going in quick. We'll see you next week. Guys driving me yeah <music>.

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Johnjay dressed as Kyle is an image I will never forget.

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Johnjay dressed as Kyle is an image I will never forget.

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Legat, this is the big boss know snoopy decoupled jizzle Faint Bom which you don't do shit. We're not talking about last the one and only you know. Face to me, and in the place to be, you're listening to John Jay, Rich Lake you'll. John Judge. Enrich. Phone Number Eight, seven, seven, nine, three, seven, one, four, seven, you call right now jump on the air with us. It's Thursday October twenty. Nine. I gotTa tell you I was I was my son Cabinet of a basketball game out of town last night two hour drive out of town home toll eleven. I got up morning I. Did my Peleton. Yeah I wanted to stay committed to the Peleton. Workout. So the thing about this Peleton workout is i. keep going to the same guys guiding Alex. Is a hip hop guy and I love the hip hop classes but I'm so tired impress for time. We'll have time for a twenty minute workout. and. I love the hip hop workout. But I clicked on a different trainer this woman. I don't know her name and I guess it was a ninety I thought maybe it was nineties hip hop, but it was ninety S. Just nineties music. And I bought it started off with this. This song called crush or something like that. Jennifer. Something I don't name Jennifer page. So it's Sung some I'm. and. I'm like you know it's your time. It's three o'clock in the morning right and I'm like. Man I want to X. Out of it and go find my guy. But I'm already now three minutes in and I'm like I better just do the workout. So after that. She's like this is so exciting. This is a great of you're GonNa love these songs smash after smash after smash. got. GotTa be kidding me 'cause The music motivates you to work out for sure you pumped up right. So then The workout starts now she starts is pick up the pace and and this song she started song. The song. Go back to sleep going. Crying. In Cuba meanwhile peddling twenty. The speed of. Mike. My? This miserable. Where's My hip hop? Right. So then it's like don't speak she picks up Gwen. News. Things. Might be motion kind of whatever this year in the Ricky Martin Living La Vida Loca. Okay. Okay and then she goes I'm so excited for this next song guys she could afraid this is so great and this is the next song she goes into Friend I forgot this was a hit saw. She stops she's she's paddling and she does. Look into the camera like the first person the world ever this. Got Him. So, upset Peleton right now right now I'm like no desire I'm like I can't believe that I'm going through this class. PELETON tired I didn't get home. Last night. It's three o'clock in the morning now I'm stuck pissed. then. This. Happens. And I'm I'm writing and I might. Who is this? I don't know. She. Your. Wilson Phillips. Compelling. And I'm like this is the worst. Song in the world chunks, but I gotta go through with it. Right. Right. All sudden it's like also my hands are out in like. Stars. I'm like. I'M GONNA mountainside arms are out. Some Day some buddies. Hero I'm sweating and crying. Out tattling. Totally with this peleton teacher, we're we're we're and we're. Now. I'm like. I play list. The workouts almost over there's only a minute left. This is Oh, I can't believe a Wilson Phillips, where have you been and then she wraps it up with. That ever. Three you want that slowed down. This is such an emotional. Jam You pellets out. So. That was my morning Florida van Damme. Too, much too much. You have your no fleet basically. Such a crazy. So are you gonNA be Cranky to us all this morning? You'd be. Okay. Well considering I mean we don't operate on any sleep anyway I don't think. Got endorphins from working at this morning. Smile on his face. Like I don't. There's something wrong with the peleton anyway. Like. It's broke. Broken was complaining to them to come fix it as usual everything. I get something broken. Bars or too low and I'm a backer. So that head I now the Peleton. Stupid bike. And I got the Peleton for everybody else in my family ability when using it. She did yesterday a little bit but. Anyway So, it's Halloween time we decided to do something different. If you've been watching I get a lot of people asking me about these masks that I've been posted on social media, right? I had. The saw Guy Jake saw I. Got some a face with braces on in different mass ago the beer spot. Yeah we're getting from his is really cool company. So they made masks was cows idea. Look at college right now she's wearing got a mass a wig on we have masked made of everybody on the show. Yes, and Kyle's wearing my face. and Suzanne is richest face. Enriches Suzanne's face and I am Kyle's face. interbay also shows everybody else and the company was flyers direct and they are amazing. It literally are amazing. So you go to them go to their website and they can make your face. The or or the colour. These up so fast for us it was crazy but riches were Suzanne has made it. Her Lips puckered up and actually looks like a butthole. Nothing. Has Looks like a little? Moon, the camera and Shit. Sing like Suzanne 'cause I don't think I've ever worn track pants to work before they are so comfortable. I literally said that, Joey this morning because I'm John, Jay's classic Nike Sweats, Air Force Ones and love up black shirt and I said, I suggest where I have never been this comfortable at work. That's got this doubt I had I'm dresses Kyle today at this moment I'm not but I brought my cow closed because to be Kyle. It is no wonder she gets up to A and. You just put on cows like when it's time for us to do our photo shoot and these outfits like I need some time. I'm very excited about it too. I'm very excited about Mykhailo outfit 'cause I. Think it's one of those I think you gonna go. Oh you can. You think about what? Kyle, where's the work she always comes in glamorous always looks cool. Right. So what what am I gonNA how? Kyle Oh but I think you'll get it. I feel like that bag is huge and chuck full. Just. Wait I'm very excited about. Mykhailo a very excited. The I'M NOT GONNA. Say just wait till the. Excited judging. Rich. Oh it's time for our scopes. WHAT'S THE VIBE? what is it? That makes you feel trapped to according to your sign. Guy How you doing today good Rico as the what that makes you feel trapped for a Jemma Ni- our favorite. A. Kind. Of Plan makes you kind of want to tear your hair out you can be. As They Gemini. You can't give another person any kind of commitment and that drives those around you kind of crazy and people going bonkers is what you consider a complete trap one that you have to walk away from completely. That is social and you know what? Another one that make me feel practice Gif. TAP into the same person every day who was very time today I would like home and recommended relationship. What are you doing like I got a? And I like. And I will not talk to them like for a good while a couple of months. ooh. Yeah. It's a little too much for you. Too. Much. There can't be. You know it's easily done. Thanks. Kristie. What's your sign Scorpio Christie Scorpio of course but of course. Hikers. So. I knew Scorpio what is it? That makes you feel says you not being able to control everything the desire to control all things exactly. What makes you feel trapped especially with people you expect those around to be a certain way and when you realize you can't change them or change the situation that you're in that makes you feel like you know you're being trapped in. Oh. My. Gosh. Once again, you you got right. One of those can't control it and I can't control the situation and. We talk. Yeah we. We talked about it yesterday how you have really expectations for people. You expect them to be exactly like you and when they're not, you know Kinda drives you crazy. Does. I won't everything to be a certain way and its worst the worst thing is is. You'RE GONNA laugh as Mojo in my yard I will let anybody touch my yard because I'm so like it has to be a certain way fan I'm so crazy about it. Not. She's a Scorpio guys come. Scorpio's. little. Girl. Mow that yard. What? Do you get your yard. Man. CHRYSSA. CHRYSSA. What's your sign? Aquarius. Aquarius that says being controlled in any way shape or form they trap you try to avoid but sometimes can't you tend to involve yourself in many activities that require giving up control and when that happens, you usually find yourself scrambling to get out. So you rebel from all control, but until then it's hard to shake that feeling of being trapped. So true. True. And John J for Virgo what makes you feel trapped? The most is your expectations of others you want people to listen to your criticism and follow your instructions and when they don't, it's a personal thing knowing that someone won't do what you want them to do makes you feel imprisoned. For. The. It is. Sometimes you wonder if Suzanne just uses this to lay out. The horoscopes. Coming up with. Kyle for Lebron says, you're the main attack antagonist in your own trap making in order to please people you agree to whatever anyone wants. Of course, you have no idea how trapped you feel after the agreements, but you always come to resent some of your choices. You put yourself in a situation that makes you feel trapped. In order for everyone else to be happy around you. I won't say which decisions. John J. Just. Too Nice. Rich per pisces. You sometimes care too much about people liking you too much to the point where you could lose yourself and feel trapped acting like someone you're nuts and doing things you wouldn't normally do desperately wanting to be accepted will only drive you crazy. You just can't operate if you're not coming from a place of authenticity, it will make you feel trapped when you do that. Good advice for all for all. Yes. I totally thought some else for rich. Think I feel you feel trap like in a small baseball cap? We're in a baseball cap that's too small for your head. This is one size fits not that one. Except your head. You need a snapback. And for a capricorn, you're continuously getting yourself into traps of your own making basically because you're always making plans, you enjoy making plans but when you make too many plants and set so many appointments you feel trapped to you you always show up no matter how you're feeling because that's what you committed to. Show up you fill up baby. The rest of these horoscopes are up at Jay Rich Dot Com. If we didn't get to yours college somebody working up with three things, we need to know the traditional drive through is changing like specifically for fast food I'll tell you three things you need to know next with John. Rich have you heard about propane taxi propane tanks, propane grill tank home delivery service, and it's ridiculously easy to order a propane grill tank delivered right to your door. Now's the perfect time of year to get outside and grill with family and close friends or heat up the patio. Make sure you've got propane for any occasion go to propane taxi dot com use Promo Code tank ten in your first tank exchanges just dollars Promo Code tank ten for a dollar exchange no delivery fees no commitment and no contact propane taxi dot com propane grill tank home delivery Promo Code tank ten. What's it like to drive the Volvo xc ninety plug in hybrid. The thrill of a four hundred horsepower t eight twin engine. The? Joy? Of. Impromptu. Road. Trips. And the serenity. Of Electric Power in pure ECO. Mode. Visit a DMV level retailer today to experience the xc ninety recharge plug in hybrid for yourself. Even, when the show is over, we just keep talking and now you can hear it listen to the judge enrich afterwards podcasts on Iheart, radio or on zones Colorado would eat it out today fifty seven percent of shoppers are considering restocking due to growing fears of a potential second wave of covid nineteen Again, just like the first time around hygiene products topped the list of shoppers including toilet paper, hand, sanitizer, paper towels, all the things that were gone off the shelves for a long long time. But unlike the first stockpile I, guess a Lotta Shoppers Plan on investing in new items more of the frozen dinners, pastas, snacks, and cleaning products. Which I think people did before too. So started the same thing happening again as you know, we are getting into cold and flu season and there's like you know. Here's about that. So the NFL says they are moving forward with plans to do the super. Bowl February seventh that's happening. Fans will be in the stands at reduced capacity they say. They want to do twenty percent capacity of Tampa Stadium, which normally holds about sixty five thousand fans fans will be in pods of six feet apart, masks will be required it'll be weird to watch but this is where we're at in the world right to know what teams are going to be there already. You know I cannot predict. So the company that owns Burger King and Popeye's they may be totally changing the drive through food game. They are rolling out a new smart device drive-thru that apparently predicts your order. So they say using predictive selling technology. The drive through screens will actually use factors including your previous orders, regional weather patterns, and the time of day to personalise special promotions for you. That's awesome. Different loyalty programs that also customize menu items based on what you usually order I would totally listen to the APP to. Go there what do you? I don't know. If. That just told you here's what you're in the mood for like. Okay. Good for you Burger King. Weird that they're going to be like we already know what you've probably. Aren't they having your way. Where this will be like, you'll have it our way. You're having your way again. And we will have it your way before you know what your way. To keep things you need to know. I got John Jay's stacks interesting information that I really have nowhere else to put it except right here on the show. The average couple gets into three arguments a week over where to get dinner from according to a new survey that's a hundred and fifty six arguments year that add up to more than forty four hours. Edge is me crave. It happens Mr Babies. Do you want to eat Oh, what do you want to know? You pick all right I'll pick a seafood I don't want to. See. I'm the Mr Baby in that conversation you pick. Okay. Let's do blue thirty two now. I just want something out. Speaking of food majority of people are pretty sure Thanksgiving is going to be twice as stressful this year according to new survey there also coping by fantasizing about side dishes. The top ones are mashed potatoes stuffing engraving An Old Theater Ontario Canada's holding a fundraiser right now for twenty five dollars, you can enter for the chance to have your ghost haunt the place after you die. Is that right now it's haunted. So they're looking for when you die, we will let you haunt. It's cool. You need new ghost like all the goes from the eighteen hundreds are played out. Lake. All the ghost stories I've heard are not really people gave them permission to be there. Along potty us. Twenty years ago I paid twenty five dollars. Watson me man I paid to be. A woman attacks taxes upset because there are Homo Hoa's forcing her to take down her Halloween decorations which are pulled dancing skeletons. She says the decorations are great creative outlet for her. They gave her thirty days to take down the decorations, which is fine because Halloween's over. The next week. I lucked out. Of Florida demanded a refund at spectrum cable store on Tuesday and they wouldn't give it to her. So she grabbed the Khobar Crowbar and pried open registered to grabber on refund and she was arrested because that's illegal corey. Survey asked couples which annoying conversations keep coming up over and over and over? Already said what to eat for meals. But what are some other ones? What do you want to do this weekend? Social stuff could hang out with bedtime alarm clock sounds which movies or TV shows to watch on day one. How much time to spend with extended family? How long it takes for? What are both to get ready? To go to bed my wife and I go to bed right away and then usually she wants to cuddle or something I'll be like, Hey, what's your timeframe? It should be three minutes and be like, okay for real three minutes, Gosh. Focus I gotta go sleep. Sleep if she's cuddling with, you know a breathing machine. Even. Sleep time maintenance. Okay. A woman in Thailand has found this very successful business niche. She dresses up as a Zombie to sell dead people's clothes. So creepy that is. Family dies sell the calls you hire her. to sell, the clothes. Spaghetti Thailand. COSCO will stop selling coconut milk from Thai suppliers. Because they use monkeys as forced. All the monkeys. Can get the. Out. Still stable yeah. Monkey. Oh. Hawaii's animal shelters are overcrowded because the pandemic. So a group called paws across the Pacific. Just flew six hundred dogs and cats from Hawaii to Seattle to make sure they didn't get put down two largest pet rescue flight ever at amazing. Yeah. A study says that among all celebrities Lebron, James has done the most motivate people to vote. And the celebrity whose opinion we trust the most on political social issues anyone anyone I thought Oprah fiance. nope. Tom Hanks Tom. Hanks. Yep. Kim Kardashian shell out a million dollars for her private island birthday bash last week it happened over five days at this island resort in French Polynesia. Magazine more Borat to yet have you seen Bart. There's a woman in in their she plays. She's a babysitter for my daughter. and. She's amazing in the movie she she's real. And they only pay thirty five hundred bucks is what Sasha Baron Cohen pater, which is really a shame on him right So her name is Janie Jones. And they put together go fund for her a pastor together fund gofundme for her in Sorority raised over one hundred, five, thousand dollars. So she's doing well, they're getting money for her. Rich we ever life hacks. Some life hacks are fun like how to you know make your Halloween scary. But this this could change your whole life because the Journal of population economics went through everybody who was married everybody who stayed married and they will tell you the exact age that you should marry somebody. So the thing is they say, if you want to live a long happy life with a long happy marriage, there should be no age difference between you and your other whatever age you are twenty, one, thousand, five, thousand, five, whatever it is you should be the exact same age if you want a long and happy marriage. Really. Yeah. Because they say that say that your ten years apart first couple years you get along great. But then after that, all of the differences in just your generation starts showing up. So they say exactly the same age is the healthiest. No, I. Don't agree with that. Because I feel like. Men and women are different. Like women mature. Quicker. father-in-law is seventeen years older than my mother-in-law. They've been married forty years. Wow Impressive. My wife is six months older than me. That means. A neighbor of mine older older. He's married to a much younger woman he said. That for man have a successful relationship, a mansion Mary a woman, half his age, plus seven. What was the reasoning just because I don't remember but I just remember him telling me that that's stuck with me for a long time and I was like day we got married. By friends. Girlfriends her mom told her you need to marry a guy younger than you and she's like that's Seems. Weird. Because like the guys that are younger than me are so immature and she goes to listen when you get older, you don't want to be taken care of him. You ought to take care of you. Lena. You're on the air good. Morning. The morning to say I love your welcome her catacomb yesterday you did great anything you call you. Said my cattle from now on. Kill module Allocate who's et Gallo or if you haven't seen Suzanne's costume could see it right now on instagram. Day as Walter Gallo also some cool stuff happened yesterday with you being welcome to cal arts. We're GONNA we're GonNa hear about what happened as Suzanne was in actually amazing. Your outfit was just truly amazing but she got to very much in a character. You'll hear what happened next John Dean Rich. Nobody. Fully understands the effects. On Sleep. Yesterday Suzanne came into studio dressed as Walter. Mad Gal. Fantastic costume fantastic with the gold. CAPE. She had the WIG, the pink cheeks, the ring. This on believable. He came back to life a little while. So how was the feedback? I mean the videos are on our instagram on Jewish dot com and how was the feedback was amazing because I decided to do a horse breeding on my instagram for everyone. But the little twist to it I. I was reading everyone's horoscope signs, but they happen to be better bunny lyrics weird how that happened so it's Kinda how it went instead we now most going. Looking steely. And this is where it's from. Little. Weird how that happened But it blew up on instagram and I was so happy about it. And then all of a sudden I got a bunch of messages that people like Gosh, the official Walter Mikhail page. reposted a you am i. that's a win. So I run Iran show Mr Baby and yes the official verified page mutuel. Muccio. A mode and I I'm guessing this is from the documentary that was on Netflix reposted my video on on instagram stories, and apparently there's a Walter Mercado contest Halloween. Costume contest going on right now and everyone was like. You this Hashtag. There's a contest going on you have to enter and sure enough like started with the everyone like all the people that were dressing up as Walter Gallo and I entered the contest. I don't know. I. Was Looking at their their post and it says something about. Like, you're gonNA receive some but I got lethal some gifts from Walter. Vitamins from Willie Oh. Burma vitamins. I think really the one running the instagram Pale really yes. Because I saw video on there and you can't see who it is but he's talking showing like this award that was presented to alternate callow in the past and it sounds like his voice. Oh, like really. Is Assisting. He's in the past. Really is go check it out because it was really good costume unlike the costume causeway right now. But you know what I've been trying so hard. It's like looking mayor for me. It caused me do that thing where I'm standing we. Looking in the mirror. Ask. Megan you're on the air. Hi. Commodity was up. High. All I was on your instagram night and I saw that you've got pulled over. What is you do girlfriend? On story got pulled over. We trust like that. Actually if I was just like this, I think there might have been a different outcome. Let's find out. We'll find out the the outcome. What happened cow she got pulled over what was she doing out so late? Coyote. Because one time you're late, new pullover would happen shorebridge. arrested. And I went to jail for two days. You will find out what happened cow Kaga. Pulled over John Dean Rich. In race. A little bit ago cal told us that not sure she got pulled over last night but years ago you got pulled over for doing what speeding and what happened I got arrested and I went to jail for two days. For today, you spent the night Aj. Forty hours with a lot of people to sell. There was one other person in the cell with me at the time. But I had to people because both of those people only had twenty four hours sentences and I was upset because both those people that were with me had do is I'm pretty sure speeding isn't as bad as a Dui. One forty eight hours to say hello to your cellmate from way back when. Charity, how are you? Know. How to stay. Bloom in a red light. Not. The worst experience that you actually want to go back? was was the worst experience that toil naked to the drinking. This connection. Oh Great. How are you? What's happened to your life since you spent time with Kyle back in Cell Block H. I became at one zero, four point seven fan what I have. Those. Those matching teardrop. Cockroaches every day to authorize. Saying Dory. Kyle. Prison. Stripes. Charity thanks for calling bye. That's so funny. Okay. Twelve years ago you spent time in jail for speeding. Last night. We out drinking like where were you? What were you? What were you got pulled over? I had literally the most mom day ever yesterday I went home from work I picked up my son we step by the costume shop I picked up my daughter from school we went home I dropped her off I went back to her school for parent teacher conferences I left that I went to her dance On my way home, it was like the end of a very long day because I think I spent all of twenty minutes maybe at my house. And I'm like, okay, it's dark out. We had driven separate cars. So Scott my husband had addy with him and I had my son eastern with me. And we do this thing, there's like a handful of houses in our neighborhood that have halloween displays out. So we go look for Halloween when we get into the neighborhood and we slow down and there's a couple of houses that are his favorite and there's one on the on this corner that has a spooky tree and easterns obsessed with the sukey tree. And so we get to the point in the neighborhood where the spooky trees coming up. So I'm like slow down and I'm like, do you see it so exciting by there's this spooky tree and he's like, oh and. Then I so I'm going very slowly by the house and then I turn onto our street. And all this is either the lights by me and I'm like. Gosh. So you know I pull over I, roll the window down and I'm like why I don't like what just happened and the officer asks as they usually do do you know why I pulled you over and I was like, honestly I, do not. And he's like. Well, you know there's a stop sign back there right and I'm like, yeah, I thought I stopped because we were trying to look at the spooky tree and he's obsessed with the Halloween decorations and he says, well, what you actually did was you slowed down and then you went very slowly through the intersection and apparently we've had a lot of complaints about people who actually live in this neighborhood of people running the Stop Sign I was like Oh we live here too like I'm concerned about everybody's safety totally again I just I thought that I stopped because we were focusing on the Halloween decorations and I guess maybe I didn't. And he's like licensing registration. Somatic. Keep. Keep your cool eastern in the backseat like who make this a good experience for him and I'm like, okay and I don't know where my registration is. Like all Dark get it and I hand everything and he's back there for a long time to the point where now eastern starting to have a meltdown at the end of a very long day for him to and he's like no stop stop goal and I'm like. In. Trouble. Mommy's doing time. We've. Got Record. You. Off. CAMIS. Think so So bad. and. So the officer finally comes back and he's like. I'm giving you this ticket exchange. Streamline your. Forty five seconds away from my house. I know and I was like, but you I mean you literally told me I drove and I quote very slowly through. Section, it wasn't like I like I know on the street that he's talking about people have complained because like people drive really fast through there but you literally said I drove bear re slowly. Stops apparently, ditch rolled slowly through the stop. Sign. But vary. Key word. Ticket to take. Driving School high. I got to look it up. Like holiday. With a warning I would literally still have the same effect where I would like be extra. Super careful. But Anyway I get wearing wearing but I feel like if I was dressed like you judge, you always get outta tickets. That's true if I hadn't. been controversy. Wait. We wait judge Venice on android. Wow, you tend to to turn on the Dome Light. What if he's talked about raising eastern the you're afraid of certain things that might what if this makes him have this fetish or what if you do this? What if it turns them into this? What this them the life of crime. No. Cobb lights he gets his thrill thrill the red lights when I when I the video that I posted I like slowly held up by phone, and then he's sitting in the back seat and it's on Selfie mode. So he can see the lights which he can't really see because he's faced forward and I put the phone down and he's like, can I see the lights again mummy? assured. Exit. Into this life of crime has right before he kills people can see the lights again. Mommy. Thanks guys. Fear. Taking trees. Officer my house. That's my house right there. You see that guy standing there with my husband. With a baby in a bag the car see to. Oh yeah like. Windows obviously. Mike my son he wanted to see the spooky. Tree. No. You don't like Halloween. Was a police officer for Halloween couple of days. Play the Game Kyle play the game again. I I don't know I never know what to say in those situations, which is probably why I never get out of tickets. As you like. A bunch of like whatever money I have. He's like, Oh, I was just about the donate this to the please. Take it for me. This morning. or the Roses Andrea found something in both friends phone that was shocking. It shocked her so much. She didn't know what to do. So she came to us but is it proof that she needs his prohibition needs to find out that bridge cheating we got war of the roses next Johnny. Rich. Not only. Do you need to know if they're cheating you deserve to know the truth? Roses right now CIANCI rich except for the roses. Andrea is in a relationship. Yeah. Hi Do you think boyfriend's judy or your husband? Are you married? What's what's the story with you? My boyfriend we've been together for five years. We've been living together for two. Okay and all of a sudden just kind of out of nowhere he started being like real weird about his phone. So it's really making me suspicious. and. I feel like he's cheating on me. And thinking that he's GonNa get away with it so I'll tell you the story. So the other night I grabbed his phone and I usually do that. So I grabbed it phone because I wanted to look at it, and then that's when I realized that he changed his password. So the whole time that we've been together and like at his phone and stop and it's not a problem and then he changes his toddler just randomly. So I asked him I say, Hey, why did you change your? Password. is there something on your phone that you don't want me to see? And as usual, he calls me ridiculous and that's that's like crazy fight. So it's like back and forth back and forth you know you don't. You don't trust me this and that's like and I'm upset he slept on the couch at night. The next night we ended up making up, right so He like made me feel better about it and he gave me the new password for phone. But then the other night he got back from Driving Uber East. And he passed out as soon as he got home, he was so tired and I was bored so I grabbed his phone as I do. And you know I started looking around. And then all of a sudden I go into pictures. And I could not believe what I saw on his camera roll their. Photo after photo of this one naked woman like over and over the same woman naked woman and it's not like it's a professional picture something. Selfie, these are pictures that were taken by the women and like he's he has these pictures in his camera roll and I didn't find like tax or emails like probably like deleted things so I wouldn't be able to see it. But how do you get rid of pictures like that, right? So I know that I didn't find those tax or any other evidence, but she has these nasty picks and it's all the same girl. We got to see these pictures I don't. Don't. Understand. All. By Newt selfies. Is even explain that away. Even, if it's like a front front of his like you should have those pictures on phone, I shouldn't save them. Did you happen to check his instagram like messages or facebook messages? I. Couldn't find anything. So like I look at his Yams I looked. I looked at his text messages and so unless he's like. Sharp you know what I mean like. Okay. Let me get rid of all the things but pictures I think would be hard to get rid of as you have somebody that you're like you know fooling west so I don't know I. I never said anything to him because. I said, you know what? I'm not. I'm not going to like put myself in the position where all I'm going to get a financial lies because that's what's going to happen. That's what happened. You know the night that he changed his password it's like deflecting deflecting and so I didn't. Say anything to him about it and I've just imploding inside. So this is why I wanted to do this with you guys because then he won't have any wiggle room and we're gonNA catch him in the Lai. On any to catch him in alive this is why I want us to be war of the roses. What does he do for a living because I do have an idea what does he do for a living? Drives up for Uber. That's okay because I was GonNa say if he's in the entertainment business, for example, as I am. I have lots of pictures like that that people send me that I have saved I. Don't know who some of these people are but I saved them I have naked men, and they could women that I say just because they're painful. Okay. Jeremy is a beautiful there I stumble upon some right now a little bit ago while I thought. Well, these are neat like. I have pictures on my phone that I know that my wife would scroll what the hell a lot of them are feet right they're very hard to explain because she knows about the at unfold foot page she knows why there's weird feet not weird feet they're beautiful thing. We're. Not, like healthy. I was trying to think what would be an excuse for him to have a a non outside of him seeing this girl outside of the obvious. Why would he have in naked pictures of woman his phone trying to think of an innocent legitimate excuse and I can't think of what he's an artist or sculptor? Again I can. I can only think of one in that is if for some reason, he shares like what are those family cloud storage is with Percy, his brother and his brother's girlfriend. Stretch but only thing that I could come into the password to the thing he's got going on the pictures A. B. He's got he changed the password. So that's that's the thing too. So he's got two strikes against him so. If, he deleted all of the message, the maybe text or facebook or. Instagram or something like that if he deleted those. Like, you would think you'd be smart enough to at least put the photos in a hidden folder or something unless automatic. He knew you were going through his phone. We make sure they could be innocent unless he. Did it on purpose to like let's find him. So. All Hey. We'll see who he sends the flowers to Andrea Okay are you ready to do this you ready? Yeah, I'd rather now. And what is your boyfriend's name? Derek Derek. The one they call, Derek. We. Will Call Him Kyle ready prepared. All right. We will get him on the phone. So we send the flowers to next which Jane Rich. We're in the middle of the road says you've got Andrea and Derek Boyfriend and girlfriend for five years living together for too long story short there's naked pictures at his phone at the same girl there. Nude Self. He changed his password a little bit ago. The a huge fight he slept on the sofa they made up and then he gave the password but she found these naked pictures and she's pissed she wants to catch him cold-blooded Bam that's it. Are you ready? Is Derek they're. Perfect Height Derek my name's Aurora with the new company. We're called Jenner flowers. You've been chosen to be one of our micro influencers Derek. This is super exciting because you get to send our most romantic bouquet of roses to everyone and it's totally free. Throws a little shoutout on social media. All right I'm not interested Appreciate you have special in your life. This is like an easy way to surprise them because like I said, it is super romantic dozen red roses and you don't have to pay for them like I'm not GonNa ask you for credit card information or anything like that. So you get to look like the man Derek, and then you don't really have to do much for. Well, it always a catch nothing's free drive your surveys something like that like what? Like it's always the catch I mean there is a slight catch, but it's not really like a survey or anything like that. I am going to send the roses out with a nice little card and you gotTa tell me what you want to put on there. You can get fun flirty sexy on there and that's really all I. Need to get him sent out. For some on the car. We, and then of course, you know we ask that you put us on social media but we're not gonNA come find you if you don't. All. Right. Well, I I. I got something outfit on the and got something perfect like you know people I've really heard also don't be shy. This is really your chance to just personalize it to whoever you want to send them to have that card ready. So we can start with the message if you're ready. Let's let's make. Yeah we can do that Don't judge it new and I want to put on their. You're my spicy little Mama. I WanNa, bust, Happen Yada. I love it. Okay. You're my spicy Mama and I wanNA bust that Pin Yada. Okay. Do you want like a love Derek Akzo, exa what sort of citation? From Daddy okay. And then who am I addressing this too? Oh Hm. Okay. Got a question for you can spread this offer out to like a few different ladies Sir. We could do, but it would be like a half. Okay. Okay Let me see. She tell Jasmine and. To Mantha ship him to Samantha Ariana. Shot. Okay and you want the same message on both of their cards. Yup. Exact, same one. What are you doing? Derek. Below. Sorry? What are you doing? Yeah, it's Andrea. Okay. What what are you doing? What am I doing? What are you doing? How you on the phone call right now. On the radio right now full. Well I you know everybody's here. So that's cool. And I suppose you probably gave them a call 'cause you got I was cheating on your right. Probably. With my phone again like you always do. Much about. Pictures. the same lady naked in your phone like a ton of Pictures A. Bunch of Selfie. A bunch of Soviet of bunch of pictures, right? That's nobody. Put Him off a damn porn site. I saved them Emma the teach you a lesson to stop going through my phone and stop thinking of cheating on you all the time. I. Don't believe that now you did not. No you did not. Yes I did you grab my phone whenever you want to you start going through it and you read all my taxes, my DM's and everytime you expected to find some like you find me cheating on you is not healthy man like. It's not it's not way. So you knew you knew you knew, did you know you're on the radio? So he made up all those names like you like I'll tell totally believe you it in the mail girls you're. Wondering if he's like weasling his way out of it right now. I knew something would happen because you don't get enough for free in this world. That's that's for damn sure and it just all of a sudden. We're talking about me sending something to you know some somebody that I like or or on a trip come on man no no I knew that was her she had to be behind to somehow I knew it. Okay. So you're not seeing all those girls. No I feel like you're doing a really bad job of reassuring you're. Not. A really good way, but it's like it's so so essentially he's innocent. He's it's like now I'm kind like Oh. Coyne he's. Still Mad at you. You're trying to teach her a lesson, but her saying that doesn't help. It doesn't make her trust you. It doesn't make her feel good. That's that's the issue I. Dare lack of trust like she. She doesn't trust me but the thing is I gave her my my co to my phone like you really don't need to do more than that. She can go to my phone at any given moment in time. But that doesn't mean you should be doing it to look for me cheating on you. Why don't you give it a link to the website that you pulled those pictures from so she can verify. site. We we can go through it together I can show her exactly where said to us to. Be. Totally. Sure here. would. Whatever do that to like intensely hurt me especially because you've been inappropriate before it's not like I'm just pulling out of thin air you've been. Cheated. When we? First started dating. When we first started dating, you were texting other girls and you're being secretive and like it was like this. Thing and I I couldn't get a straight answer out of you. I already. I'm so to about those things anyway. So we've been living together for two years and then all the sudden you change your passcode you know. So what's the? What's the reason for doing that all of a sudden you know? So I'm thinking that there's something shady especially because I don't think there's anything wrong with me looking in your phone you can look at my phone whenever you want you have my code and so I choose not to anything wrong we're we're. Right. So if you want me to feel like comfortable and safe I, don't understand the reason why we should be sharing everything we do live together. Gosh. She's bringing up. She's bringing up the past when we first started talking that is old news owed news ancient history is like why you keep bringing that back up if we can't get past this. We're GONNA. Make you've been together five years if it's when you first started I believe I read somewhere that when you start dating someone anyone to get married at the believe there's a fifteen year window. For What for mistakes, oh. Fidelity generous. Window Title I believe that I think it was oprah. Bill. Say, all came together. The guy own just for the guy. Tolerance. That article. S. Ship the parents. Guys. If you guys want to make this work, you'd have to really work on building that trust back up. If I had done that to you if I had fooled around at the beginning and you felt like off kilter and staff. You might feel if you love me, you might feel like you would want to make sure that you felt safe and so I just and it doesn't really help that you call me ridiculous whenever I feel something and I'm worried because I care about you I love you. Guys got to communicate more. You have talked talk it out i. mean it sounds just like what Kyle said. So thank you both go down there with his Derek. Thank you, Andrea. Thank you go on there. Is Not a problem. Thank you so much for having this man like I know it's all jacked up like you know. I love her. So we're GONNA work this out. All right. Thank you say how does Roses Dane Rich. Tomorrow at this time, we have a dirty little secret update from. Maybe remember his secret. He, told him hooking up with a guy? His best friend's brother for the past six months or so. And the guys engaged to be married to a girl in December So. Aquaman will be giving us an update on the situation very complicated world tomorrow at this time. Dirty little secrets. Scott. Rogue. Rogue DM yesterday I I was fascinated by this. Her. Her Story L. The it's one of the most phenomenal stories ever heard of and I and I. When you hear it, you'll know why but there's actually another layer I think and I'll tell you the layer after she explains it rogue what is your dirty little secret? Hi. Yes. My dirty little secret that one spring break in Mexico with college There was a big group of us. There was eight of us on the first night there we had an orgy Ya. When you say orgy can you is? A little bit more into the details. Out there were three girls and five guys, and we were all hooking up swapping partners. Yeah. There are people watching up first and then they decided to join out. Here's the part that's out the extra layers antibody is that rogue is stunning. I looked at every picture on her instagram after the storm. My Gosh. Jj On. These. Friends of yours that you've had for time and did this ever happen again? You know it. It. Yes. And No It wasn't like my first time doing something like that. But it was friends that I've had for years besides like the new I in the group or like the friends that I met in College Lizzo with anyone in a relationship. Yes. Like where they there though like the couple. No Oh. You said so you had done this before. I have had a couple of threesomes before, but nothing was like seven other people. She. Stunning. Did you say pod people that were watching joined in. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. which sounds creepy when you're thinking about it but you know we're all superchunk at that point. So it seemed normal like this story. Is it a good story? Even if there all ugly. I. Don't know what your friends like. I'm assuming your friends or good because you really looking your friends good looking too. I think so. Yeah unbelievable. And so like in the orgy, would you like how many guys were you with? I was too. and and or they're more in either girls be with more guys. Yeah I think I don't think any of the girls got with all of the guys but every guy got with a girl, do you never been quite even? Girls get with girls too. yes. This is just the best way of of her. Story because all your questions anything disappointing. Thank you so much for calling. Thank you guys some people have all the fun. Keep doing your love moments. Grew what is your dirty little secret group? So my dirty little secret is years ago I had this boss that absolutely hated it was like a hold to everybody. So me and a CO, worker going to a trade show than the airport they had one of those kiosks where you can. Enter in like your name and your number to win a car. So we know that the. Information. So what we did was he put his name as number down. And we got the trade show. There was about two hundred tables so I took it upon myself. To make it my mission to make sure they his name and his number was at every single table that was there. Now. The number was his work number and we're on response status so we had to answer it. Well we did for about three months. Signed him up for everything life insurance surveys questionnaires everything L. messed up to three months mark at the three month mark was getting about one hundred, fifty phone calls a day. Probably. One of the worst things you can do to. So I get two phone calls a day like that too and it's annoyed. It messes up your day like you get a call and you know that it's the spam. You know it. Can you imagine a hundred fifty a day that's brutal that dedication. To get it done is impressive. You couldn't change his number either because it's a work number. Younger. Brother. Thank you very much. All. Right. You've got dirty little secret filtered me. Are. Found more rejected thriller lyrics lurks they want use to create a new twenty twenty version of Michael Jackson thriller will hear him next John Rich. 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Producer Bill in the studio. He's been. What following the pursuit of the modernisation of the Michael Jackson Thriller Song. This has been really enlightening because we've heard a few version so far we heard. The with the music industry's doing is so confusing right now. So we've heard. They've used lyrics for watermelon sugar four WEAP- for a baby shark. It makes no sense. This is the part of the Thriller Song that I'm talking about. Cross. CRIMPS. Creek. holiness. Classic. I don't know why anybody would touch that. That's on everybody's Halloween playlist this weekend. But again, I found another version of what the music I don't understand what they're doing with this. It's so confusing it's baffling it just listen for yourself. Why Gladys Knight. A worked for A. Concert. She was doing a little show with a radio station. We were all hanging out in rehearsals. Walks up to me and she says. I'm supposed to go up. But I ain't had one ship. Ship gives me a bag of chips. I'm like, all right. I'll go get you back. So get her a bag of chips nothing. Does concert. She thanks me during the show. Baggage. She's like because of this man, I got a bag of chips. At the best. Scary love that remix. Gladys. Knight. When I worked in Dallas for a station that did these concerts anti, she was doing a like a little show for the radio station. They were all hanging out in rehearsals and she walks up to me. She's I'm supposed to go up and rehearse but I ain't had one chip give me a chip. Bag of chips. All right. I'll go get you back. So I go get her a bag of chips. Nothing said she does the concert she thanks me during the show for a bag of chips say because this man got back chips. That's what tonight. So she was very cool I like her a lot. She's cool lady. This show. Bruegel. Probably. Baggage. Chicks. Like to say, it never gets old. Inside joke or maybe we just brought you in. This story rich told a longtime ago time ago keeps telling it so great about that story is that I had the foresight to say to whoever was producing show pull that audio and put it in my machine. I think about that for a second. Repeats you. Kinda. Somebody said to me. Can you pull that audio? We WanNA make TIKTOK. Toxin. We'd love to. Talk famous rich. People are making their takeoff. That's it. If you remember all gladys made that a tick tock that would be the ultimate. Played. New. Game reverse diverse I. Think he's one of the hardest games ever this, but it's one of our newest games. Can you identify some of your favorite hit songs backwards John. Jane Rich. Rates for the last time. We played this game I thought it was very, very hard. It's called reverse the verse. Denise's are contested Ritchie the host of this game. I am we have taken big songs ever to be played on a radio right now some complete classics and we've reversed. A. Big Part of that song. So this will be a name as your buzzer format. Recognize it backwards buzzing with your name for a point. Let's Verse Verse here we go. Yep. Attari styles. Tom. please. Oh you need him song I mean Alex either. We did it's a door you. Know I. Think he did watermelon sugar last time. But I recognize Harry. Styles Voice I didn't know what song it was. It's weird when you hear him backwards, they sound totally different even really big songs. You've heard a bazillion times like this one. Yeah, weekend. Blinding Lights. Zaza. Point John Jay has a point. Betty. Reverse the verse. Jj. That's duly. Again. Though. Let it tastes new break my heart break my heart but. Now. It's good. It's all right. Let's reverse the verse. Before that. Serbia. On the board used to continue gavel. Classic. That's right and I all time classics like this one. I can. ghostbusters. Right. Own. To us because we got it wrong. Yourself. Now. Denise Lewis. On the board here. On my gosh. So Sam. Dear analysts you unless you get one, the next one is going to be a win for either Suzanne or John Jay. So here we got reverse diverse. That's Rockstar rowdy rich. You're correct. Do you WanNa hear one more just for fun. Seed. You guys get it because I was really excited about this. And you gotta you gotTa throw. The first time was played. Lloyd jared of hearing the songs that reverse too because I feel like there's a message in their ignoring leave me. Man. Denise order set you up with apprised anyway My Gosh you guys that was like the fastest. I can hear a thing. I'm sorry. We're launching something new right now, we're going to give you a phone number to write down memorize. The number. Take. The number and they'll tell you when you can use it. Six Zero Two Three seven, four, six, three, nine, zero. Six Zero two, three, seven, four, six, three, nine, zero, and we WANNA use his number. It's going to be like a drunk down number you give it to people or you can call it when you're drunk and you leave a voicemail message and then we're going to play him on the Air I. Like, you know kind of partying with you. Hear it. Yeah. Talk to US saving you maybe. So. You go out this weekend you tonight you've got whenever Halloween and you want drunk people or whatever you call us I wish it had spelled something I know this is supposedly now. Trying to work it out at the letters. W XYZ IN THERE No. ABCD. WXYC. Yes. So what? The best that I could come up with six, zero, two, three, seven, four. Out. News Zero. They can come up with with those letters and numbers real. Six to three, seven, four, zero. Soda. Six Zero, two, three, seven, four, sixty, three, ninety, and you leave us a voicemail message if you're drunk or if in your mind whatever. But no that we'll play it on the US I think new zero could work. Like a new. Loewe. Off. Then you vera always worked out on this show. Zero. 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WE'RE BACK! - Raw Review - 11/11/20

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WE'RE BACK! - Raw Review - 11/11/20

"The survivor series teams are complete. Retribution actually wins a match and mcintyre's fighting or again and more in this week's review of monday night raw so before we get into this. I do want to apologize for not reviewing anything last week i had. I had some really bad personal stuff. Come up and because of that. I just i couldn't. I watched the shows. I enjoyed them. I thought a w was phenomenal. Heading into full gear annexed t. It was a little bit forgettable but it was good setting up feature stuff. I didn't even watch smackdown. I'm not even gonna lie and then full gear was absolutely phenomenal. Quite possibly one of the best awa pay per views. There have been i just. I wanted to just enjoy wrestling without having to talk wrestling last week but yeah it was all very very good but for now let's get into raw and i'm going to try to get through it fast because i just don't want to talk about raw for thirty minutes. We start off the show with ms tv and a few advertisements for the matches. Later on we're going to get osco versus nyah. Which hell yeah. And then of course a fucking six-man main event. I guess where miz and morrison team with orton to take on mcintyre and the new day and i kinda. Don't mind this. I like this concept of the wwe champion being on the team with mr money in the bank. It's really really interesting. Maze threatens to cash in during the main event which leads to an interruption. From randy orton. The new day. Were supposed to be the guests. But orton comes out and is just so fucking paranoid and it's so fun seeing or just being like you called stanford didn't you you beg for this match. You wanted like. He literally turns his back on maize. And it was like if you wanna plug and cash in cash. But please like i love that the voices and randy's head or real now and they are all wrestlers gunning for him although one of them may no longer be part of that because we didn't get any fiends tonight Which sucks like there's an alexa segment. But nothing really. Talking about the fiend Then says that he didn't ask for this to attack. Randy ask for this so him and morrison could become number one contenders to the tag titles. Which point the new day interrupt. They've got some new schoolhouse. Rock themed gear and before anything could get going orton just drops one. Those mother fuckers with an our ko then mcintyre comes out big boy punch fight. It set up the show doubt. It was whatever this was. This was nothing then. We get our match to determine who the final member on the survivor. series team's going to be in basically it's all the losers fighting in a triple threat. So hardy who was beaten by. Aj elias who got beaten by keith lee and then riddle who got beat by shameless. All fight out in a triple threat match. i i just. I wanted to be mcintyre. I really wanted it to be mcintyre leading the team because you know otherwise. We're not gonna have a mcintyre presence at the pay per view which what the fuck you've built him up for so long. Why not if you're going to run with randy's your champion. Why not move over. Let him become part of team raw. But instead we get riddle after what was an absolutely average match. It was literally the basic formerly formula for a triple threat. To guys fight third guy interrupts the pin then third guy and another guy fight than the other person interrupts. That's was the whole thing. I did like the opening. Elias had a lot of viciousness. But outside of that who was just a lot of fucking breakup and then finally riddle wins. The bro derek derek. The only real note. I had about this. Was i love that hardy consistently finds ways to set up poetry in motion like i think he had a double splash on both of them and then riddle fell onto his hands. These which led to poetry in motion. I love that he keeps setting it up. Then we go to a jay talking backstage with adam pearce and basically aj's pumped. I love over arrogant captain. Aj i love him so much and he says riddle rails the pace we needed. I love him and then shameless comes out and of course. Shame isn't riddle. Have their history. Says that riddle is it obnoxious punk so. Aj says well we'll have a team meeting and then basically every member of team rock comes out once a year. Not my fucked captain. Like i don't have the you're my dad. I don't have to listen to you. But then of course we do get a team meeting later. We get a promo from retribution. Setting up their match against ricochet later that night and ali. I like this because i. I knew that this was going to be retribution. First victory but. I don't like that it's ricochet because everyone else like hurt. Business made a lot of logical sense but outside of the fact that they used to be friends. I still don't understand why. Why retribution going after ricochet and so i was hoping this promo illuminate that but really rick. It really boils down to retribution wanting to recruit ricochet of course ali says ricochets very brave. But he thinks one man can change everything. That's a lie so retribution is begging for ricochet. Meanwhile it seems like reckoning aka media yelm seems to be teasing going after osco which. Fuck yes hell. Yeah i definitely want to see that we get a recap of dominance from the hurt business which leads to drew goo lack walking up to the hurt business and the most obnoxious lee red suit begging to join because he is a champion. He is the twenty seven champion. And of course they all are like. I don't know maybe maybe not. But then they pull on his tie and he has a clip on and then they just beat the shit out of which is the best sentence of all time. Jrue goulash got beat down for wearing a clip on tie but then truth comes in pens goo lack off of the beat down and camp baby archer with is the new twenty four seven champion and then a lotta shit happens later but before we get to that it's lana versus shayna baszler for some reason mandy. Dana are on commentary. Just because you want to have all of them in one segment. I guess. Lana tries for a real big sneak attack and by a real big i mean the slyke like a sloth in the ring. She is tried for a sneak attack. At which point we all knew she done fucked up. Shayna baszler beets are down at one point. Lana like a five year old pretending she's hurt yelled at. I'm like good luck with this baby face plan. Wwe so much like last week. Running knee from basil goes through the pin pulse. Her up much like nyah. Did last week locks her in the cure for clutch lana gaps out. Gives her a few more wrenches on it just to let her know but before she can get put through table. Eight mandy and dana interfere and i was so fucking upset. They're making history. Ladies and gentlemen and i don't want them to have to stop so we go backstage mandy and dana or there with lana and lana continues to be the absolute worst. And they're basically fed up with lana and they say if you wanna help us stay out of our way and on my fuck. Yeah exactly so now we get a team meeting with raw and fuck. Yeah i was excited for this segment last week. I was really excited to see this. I also love the fact that is so small. Compared to his teammates he continues to say the missing pieces matt and then all the infighting all the infighting and then matt riddle and the first thing he's ever done. I actually enjoyed says. I know a of this and i thought he was going to say they all needed to smoke weed. I'm not gonna lie. But he said he's like we need codenames. Any went around gave. Everyone codenames like fire face for shameless. In it to me. That for keith lee. He was like your bro lee. And i'm like damn it. That's good shit now. I want them to tag team so brutally could be in. Wwe at that would mean matt riddle so then unfortunately the segment boils down to aj saying. Hey you understand. J. usos on the other team you understand like runs down. Everyone on the other team like they are doing phenomenal right. Now gets kevin owens. It's jay kim corbin's there so he's kind of whatever but like he runs them all down and then reveals that earlier when he was talking to adam pearce he was getting a match sanctioned shameless in braun versus ritalin inle with aj as guest referee. And then he's just creams. Y'all gonna gain respect for one another yet. It was a great fucking segment that just led to match. That didn't need to happen. And i'll be honest. The only good thing in this match was. Aj smiles aj is making this situation work because aj is now leaning into just becoming the comedy figure because he got the shit beat out of him this entire match like at one point li in strowman. Just big boy splash. Each other in age gets caught in the middle of that dude sandwich and falls to the ground so into the match stroman tags himself in interrupting shameless. Brogue kicks shameless tags himself. In as stroman sets up the power slam there's infighting finally shame as brogue kicks strowman once again gets rolled up by riddle. One to three short simple. It did what it had to do so now we go backstage to alexa and the alexa and much like last week. Nikki confronts alexa at this time. She's not all fiend it out. She's normal lexi in so alexis still playing her little girl character. Basically being like oh. I didn't know you you were here last week. Let's have a play date. And then nicky of says. I'm not playing and she goes. Oh that's too bad in. Nikki finally apologizes for the fact. That and this is honestly something. I forgot everything that's happened to. Alexa is kind of nikki's fault. Because nikki of course left alexa alone in the ring which led to the fiend attacking her which led do where we are. Now so nikki apologizes for all of that and then finally says it's now time for you to make a choice. It's time for you walk away. Do you choose me or do you choose the fiend and it was actually really nice emotion out of nikki here and then of course alexa has two. She's just like i choose him and then skips off and you see that. Look on nicky's face of fucked up. Oh no so then hurt business come out basically just lashley an mvp and they cut a little basic as promo on sammy's zane. We're going to beat them. That's it that was the there was nothing fun about it. It was just very mode. Hurt business going. Do our business does. We're all punch people. And also charlie caruso informed us next week we are getting shelton. Benjamin cedric alexander versus the new day for the tag titles. So the hurt business or really trying to get all the gold they possibly can and then titus o'neil came out and okay ads fine. I guess it was so bizarre. Because i i understand like a couple of weeks ago. Tightest wanted to join then. They denied him. They beat them down. So you want a little bit of revenge. It's just seemed like a weird time to do this. So todd is says hey how about this me and you fight with the us championship on the line. Lashley response. I have no respect for you. And this title defense will be his first and his last first time and last time titus ever fights for a championship and wwe and man. I real impressed in the big day heavy in the first half cotton. I'm not gonna lie. 'cause titus actually looked really phenomenal. He looked brutal in the beginning like he showed a lot of viciousness he showed a lot of fire and then lashley hit a sphere and then put them the hurt lock and fuck it and i'm not even lying. Titus got the ropes within five seconds titus was in the ropes and the referee said fuck. I'm not gonna call it fucking keep it on so instead of calling for the rope. Brake lights should be called instead. Tapsell match ends bobby. Lashley looks dominant going up against sami. Zane which makes me sad. Because i really wanna see sam zane win that match. So we then get a promo for mcintyre shameless. Who are my new favorite. Do of course shea. Mrs complaining about the fact that there's no organization on his team and then mcintyre vary matter-of-factly like well. Maybe you shouldn't brogue kick your partners off the ring apron. Shameless talks about the fact that he that drew is now teaming up with losers like the new day which point mcintyre does the new day. Clap which me then. Apparently they reveal their catchphrase which was kicking hague's and kicking heads and drink. And which fuck. Yeah i love this duo. Give it to me. Wwe as soon as adversaries is over. Give me this duo. I don't care if one turns. But i want a baby face. Shameless with a baby face mcintyre it'd be great. So now we get oskar vs nyah jackson. I wants to prove that. Even though she a tag team champion she runs the raw women's division and she definitely did in the open lottery can shop and oscar. It was very interesting with oscar. Can she kept going for submission moves. She was very rarely going for strikes or any of the stuff that really brought her to the dance. She was more focusing on technical style. Which really helped set up her as kind of like someone of an underdog against niagara because all of these submissions were being powered out of lana interferes in the gets up puts her in the clutch. And then that allows oscar to put naive in the oscar luck and right before you can tap shayna interferes once again. No we don't know who wins that way in the future ni- can face oscar and no one will know who will win it's oscar. No one is ready for oskar so then post match. Shayna anaya beatdown. Mandy and dana and lana is left alone. No whatever we'll have been that's right motherfucker eight times eight times through that table. Yes i was so excited. We get a promo from our truth. Which i honestly don't remember outside of them saying hey you're going to be in a seven-man match for the title up next and i said why. Why is this why this happened so that match happened. It's truth goo lack lucia house party. Eric of the viking raiders tucker and akira and the match begins with everyone beating down truth. Obviously tazawa rolls up truth for the victory but then gets rolled up by eric. But then eric gets rolled up by gulick tucker rolls up goullot in like a schoolboy. So you know they're kind of formed into a little ball so tucker rolls up gulag and this is a spot i've been waiting to see for awhile. Gerlach rolls up tucker and they keep kind of rolling back and forth in this little ball each trading the titles then finally tucker comes out victorious and then gets taken out by truth. Who now is your new twenty. Four seven champion but then grand medal. Leak wins but then let's say dorado winds but then truth wins. This was fucking nothing like it was. It was a filler. This was filler. It did nothing because like the stuff earlier with who lack. That was fun. That's what the title needs to be is fun. Not just a bunch of people. Doing these. Like i would have loved if the tucker and gulag schoolboy ball thing had just turned into everybody trying to pry them apart and every time they they pushed them they would roll and make a new champion and then it would just keep doing that but instead it was just kind of generic and boring but now we move on to match of the night mustafa ali versus ricochet which firstly retribution came out on the entrance ramp. That's not how that's supposed to fucking work. So ricochets starts off the mark match looking really really strong. Ali gets a very quick advantage off the thing that made me most excited about. This is the fact that ricochet is getting a spot and ricochet is actually like being the guy in a story line not a secondary person because i love ricochet and i've been pissed ever since he went to the main roster so ricochet hits a hurricane rana to the outside which was vicious. Mustafa ali gets advantage because of retribution. And the interesting thing about this match was both of these guys are experienced high fliers. There was very little high flying in this match. And that's important because high flying to me works in most matches. But in this one it was so personal and it was so grudge. Matchy that if you would went to high flying moves it almost seems silly like imagine like someone sleeps with your wife and you do a back handspring before you punch him in the face like no. You wouldn't do that. You would just beat him down to the best of your ability. And that's what they both did. They both used their vicious attitude. I can't remember who hit it. Someone had a fucking backstabber off the top rope. Holy shit little note. I love the fact that after after raw talk last week. The commentary team is correctly pronouncing mustafa ali not mustafa ali. So that was really nice. And like i said the plot of the matches. They're trying to get ricochet in retribution. Which i really really like End of the match ricochet goes takes out massive move but he gets back in the ring and gets i think he went for the four fifty lands on his feet but falls and then gets caught with the koji clutch. Which is one of my favorite submission moves off. Fucking dime in the vita. They've given it to mustafa who's kind of got like snake. Like attitude right now like i know. Snake is randy's thing but mustafa's very like you know serpentine kind of in the koji clutch. Has that kind of python grip. That works well. With whom moustapha is so yeah. I liked it very good fucking match. Retribution finally has one and the w column we get a promo from randy orton. Where adam pearce tells him next week. He's going to be facing drew mcintyre for the title which causes orton to slam. Pierce the wall. And say i know you're just the messenger. So i have a message for. Wwe corporate. they can all go to hell and then drops him and then we go to the main event which was nothing. It was the the story of the match was randy. Orton is paranoid. Which is a fun character development. And because of that paranoia. He refuses to be tagged in. Because he's got mcintyre on one side ms with the money in the bank briefcase on the he wants to be ready in case anything happens. So he's referring refusing to get tagged in at one point the new day. Scream one two three. We miss you. E and then hit like this massive splash to the outside during the commercial. Break the heels take advantage even though there. It's basically a two on three batch. I don't know how the heels code of taken advantage but they did end of the match. Mcintyre comes in or absolutely wreck shop is about to take out morrison but instead drags him to the corner and begs or attack him. Orton gets in leans over the ropes and at the very last minute pulls away and walks up the ramp which of course leads into surprisingly a lot. More offense like i thought that would just be lead into a clay more but instead there was actually some fun offense after that then finally morrison gets his head. Klay moored off one. Two three painful and this was great development for randy orton character. The problem is there. Were five other fucking people in this match. There were five other people in this match. Who got nothing out of it. So yeah okay. that's cool. i guess it was. I wanted to see more advancement of the new day versus miz and morrison. I wouldn't have minded if the hurt business came out and got involved but instead this is just to show that. Randy's a little spooked right now. Because everybody's calling me navarine. That was raw. It was i probably medium medium to medium well like it was very average. It was very middle of the road. I i'm gonna say medium well two out of five. Was this raw but do you agree. Do you disagree. Let me know on twitter at scotty. 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Ep 3: The future, New car, and Spellbreak news

Waiting In Queue

1:32:51 hr | 8 months ago

Ep 3: The future, New car, and Spellbreak news

"Welcome back to the waiting in queue podcast voted number one podcast by my mother. What do you guys think about that? Yeah, probably not wrong because they you know, they actually did we do the clap. Yes. I did the climate. I have the clap. Yes. She has the cloud light. Yeah, Scott and Laura actually do sit there and watch these shows which If you guys are listening to this, it scares me. Yeah, I know we'll say things that are just shouldn't be said yeah also a quick reminder. We are already 40 seconds. And so we are free choice curse now I wanted to yeah. Yeah that was quick. That was quick forty-second was that was surprised. I really stretched out there with the whole intro like that intro. Yeah. I'm going to try and keep him a little bit more creative as we do you want every episode? Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to try I come up with ideas Connor. Come on. Yeah. Well, you have an entire week to come up with idea. She'll be able to come up with at least two to three ideas a week. I want to see I want to see mm IDs IDs only my wallet and my truck there in your wallet your ride a Marvel napkin know my ID Hai. I hate you. I hate you. So boy episode 3 though. We did it, you know do it I didn't think we I didn't who wouldn't know doing another home probably thought we were going to give up by this point and everyone that subscribed is going to be like, they're still doing this. Oh, yeah. I thought you know, I was like three truck loads is like, all right. I'm over it. Yeah, I'm over it. I don't really want to do anymore, but they keep dragging me in here. So now put you guys in on a Saturday trying to turn Connor into a to a podcast machine podcast a boy. Yeah. I like I said that oh you boys I really liked it. No, I don't of course. Derek likes it. I don't want to Well, I looked at the real fucking thing. Well, I mean you got e girls yo, but he boy. Yeah, there's a new boy just boil down gamer linkage so we can pull it up. This is kind of what I'm a mistake for. This is when I looked up e boy, these are the kind of photos that come up like emo boy or looks I think that's kind of what they're getting from it. But I mean if you look at any girls then they're technically it feels like a nice car right there on Discord. That's my car then I might be getting let's see. Yeah. Well, we're you got a loan approved. Yeah, let's pull that up on the screen. I got a loan of a million-dollar. Can we pull that up? Yeah. Yeah, what's it under a hundred photos photos? So I only I only want to pull this up because not only took Connor talk about it more but hey, I got a ride from Connor this morning. That's a nice ride. Yeah, what the E boy you're talking about those that's what I pulled up in the oh, yeah, that's the ride voice. That's my new ride stopped dead. Now, where's the where's the ride? It's in in general. There she blow There It Is Well, that's a dirty photo. I didn't realize how dirty that photo is. You know, that's not the exact. That's not the exact one either. No. No, that's that's what it looks like. What is it golf? Yeah, Those are working for audio the back of it like kind of almost comes off SUV like but it's not quite yeah, the 2018 look more like SUVs. I think it was like June 2018 the 2020s. Why did I say 2018 the 2018 look exactly like this I guess is a 2740 in the front curves soccer. Mom in the bag doesn't look to it almost reminds me of like a Subaru look to it cuz I'm kind of into the Subaru's but like that's why I think it looks sharp. Yes the original hi hat right there. There wasn't for GTI. You won't have like Civic type R's or or other hatchback cars because of the GTI. We have that app. We have like like you said Subaru. That's just what I think but I mean it is the original hatch. But yeah, I got approved for a loan. So hopefully I can get that picked up by next weekend. I'm hoping I can get it throughout the week. And then I already have plans for it. I already have gone on in Amazon and made my wish list of coil overs new brake pads new tires and rims or it's running me. It's running me. Hi, boys. We're looking at tires and rims mushrooms finish a PC to yeah. My rooms are full cost me eight grand eight grand for for Rim. He gets a $2 raise and he thinks he's bucking Bill Gates with a PC now and he's getting his dream car here. You know what it is. What is going on? You know, what else? Single boy. So that's what it is. I get to do what I want and spend my money where I want now. Yes, if if Haley's watching this though, it's not I'm not trying to be as well. But you know, it's it's it's the truth of the matter. So does that are you going to try and stay single as long as you can now or I plan on staying single as long as it takes this podcast to get off the ground? I don't I don't watch anything in my path to get in way of producing something or making this into something right? So no barricades in the road. Yeah home and the car like you guys said, oh, he's got a $2 raise the cars. It's only going to cost me an extra like 50 $55 a month. So it's really like well a sense of inner probably be about $120 I guess cuz like they my insurance will go up cuz that's considered a sports car. Yeah, so I'll be under like sports car insurance and then my fucking plates will be higher but plates aren't like that's not dead. The monthly cost. So I mean I'm not going to be like in the hold or anything because of it. Yeah, but I'm excited for you though. That's your fucking dream. Our dreams. You're not wanting more numbers will never get rid of like oh, yeah always have it. Yeah, you're not going to be in the whole financially and you're not going to be in the whole sexually though. There's a there's a sacrifice everything. I mean it has you can still be in a hole just won't be a woman's whole won't be there very long, you know, you know what usually happens people buy these cars like in the office you buy a fucking sick ass car like like the GTI or something and everybody's like, oh, I'm going to pick up mad chicks, but really just attracts other car guys are guys trying with you like hitting your DMs way more than you have one pic or photos together. Yeah, like it says they're like, let's take our photos together or like do do you want to you want to take a ride home? Like stuff like that, you know, let me show you my turbo hood. Yeah, there's never there's never girls that walk in and they're like man sit car cuz they don't give a shit. So no, I don't do it's it's short and sweet and it's not like yeah. What do you got in that engine? Oh, yeah. It's the car Community is like I think it's like 85% male wage. Like these are real numbers like the amount of women that are like into the car into the racing scene is drastically lower than males and that's just cuz like how bout a raised before and our cars are a guy thing. So, you know not true but it kind of goes along with that like the guys who think this but like truck drivers the lounge the you know, the weather the puss they always say but like everybody I know It's so annoying when you hear like an obnoxiously loud truck go off and I'm like PP syndrome. Yes syndrome. Yes, and then like some of them when they grow out of it. They're like, yeah that was kind of stupid and like nobody liked it. Like they kind of do eventually realize that like, nobody liked it. Yeah, I would say even being somebody like myself who like like scars so much or as like, you know connected to like car communities here in Fort Wayne loud cars is not it's a it's a thing that like you strive for but you do it in a tasteful manner like having a muscle car that when you start up fucking Roars is awesome. Cuz this sexy looking car. Well, yeah, it sounds powerful the some of the sounds that some of these people like make it makes it sound like it. That's that's the muffler sound right? That's when you have an untasteful taste or untasteful sound and you can tell the difference and the thing about trucks is trucks have them Community to their part of the car Community as well. But they're they're like, I feel like they're on the other side of like trucks and SUVs and like you said they grow out of it, but I do feel like Loud trucks is probably something that they're also like oh, this is sick. This is super cool. But like cuz they they boast about like how much power and how much they can haul. Yeah, so it sounds really loud. It sounds like a Monster. Yeah do the best way late that did I just remember being younger and having my bike and like taking a pop can and throwing it on the back wheel bearing just like yeah, I used to be or you could take playing cards found you. Oh, yeah playing card to your back to the spokes. Yeah, and then on the side news, yeah, that's right. I never did that. But I always did the pop I didn't I can but it would fall off. So it was like I got to put cards on this bad boy. The the coolest thing I thought to do with like my bike in like that sense of like designers put like reflective like tape all over we gotta zoom in my camera. So sorry like mine. It's like George when you had that small head. Yeah. Yeah, dude says here put on the waiting cute Snapchats. Did you guys gotta go check that out? Because this man is putting on some funny shit dude who you had like a small little. Oh yes base was Tiny. I went to oh, I I have that when I got my merch Which time I when I got married, I know we were working on job that we're working on a job and I was able to vandalize this piece of property because we were going to cover it with metal. So I wrote on their Connor loves fortnite and I sent it to Connor and kind of replies with the filter and just says, you know, yeah I have it but I wanted to post it on Instagram and like Twitter just put in this page and discourse we can use the holes just the host. Yeah, but we would have pulled it up. Yeah, it'll take it over to post. But anyways, I mean I I was at the Halloween party too and I was posting faces of people on the story. I didn't post that on the story but like for the waiting huge story, I I usually try to post like throughout the week like I posted all the magic the Gathering cards and all that but like the song. I was that the one you're talking about. Okay, cuz I did that's the one I did. I love that. I was going to say you've used it more than a pretty sure that's not the one but you've definitely use a multiple like Blake with the broccoli filter. Like that's just because it's just like yeah like yeah and then with a beard I don't know why it just looks so funny with the beard, but the I got my my sweatshirt came in my sweatshirt came in. So I did a Snapchat to like tell people. Hey, you can go get merch you know what you can go get merch so I'll go Outdoors website and go to our website and buy merch because all that money helps us get another Mike and another camera so we can have guests on the the podcast. Oh, hey. About running it like ad today don't really need to talk about on the show, but I figured we're doing that one. I felt like that one my computer. No, no, no the other one. Oh our sponsor or not. That's not a sponsor. But our partner program affiliate. Yeah. We're pretty excited about this deal. It's almost like we're real podcast and actually real podcaster. Well, what makes took it out Martin? Okay, please don't see the landlord. I'm just working used to be working to this is my you know, he's favorite job, you know the wage, you know, the late you're going to want to learn how I like how to Todd didn't even ask us did he asked you he asked if I could work today? I was like cuz you said no, I think that's why he didn't ask. My boss asked me on Friday afternoon. I I have plans. Yeah, it's it's later in the week. Yeah, text me like Monday Tuesday. Yeah, cuz then I could not make plans. Don't know how it's so hard about it. Yeah, but I was only joking about it, but I'm not I can't believe he does that shit. No, no. No, I agree. I completely agree, but, something's come up last minute, but I think that's something they have to like. Kind of account for yeah, I'm sure like, like you said things come up last minute and it is what it is. They can't do they can't be like, oh shit. The thing he asked me to do was not something last minute it was A job that was already in it was a tank. Oh, yeah, your dad definitely going to do that. We saw in this we saw your landlord. George was going there too. He was telling me about yeah. Okay, that's weird Derek just posted a Not not this Derek one of my buddy Derek just posted something. Oh, he just he reposted the the South Park the new South Park episode where the cops shoot token. Yeah my god, of course, they would do something like that do that that episode except for the inning-ending literally depicted perfectly. What was going on except with their own little obviously. Yeah. They always do such a good job with that. I love it anything that's current in the world going on they depicted so well too much. You're right. I'm coughing connect that cats Thursday. We brought Shaker cups. And yeah, we got shakers now so I don't have to funnel. I know we were talking about this in. Yeah. It's for our partner affiliate product. That's right, which you'll find them. You will find out you should go buy it though. You guys are going to be real exciting that we really do. I mean we could put stickers on those of waiting in queue, but dude, I wonder if there's some way we could like make our own That way we could go into like gyms like fucking Planet Fitness to be like bro. Yo, they're only like five bucks. Oh, I am to make sure I Used to Know ya can go to Office Depot. Yeah, that's what we did last time when I built my custom controller. I used little logo stickers and I covered the controller and my logo stickers and I went to they're not you can get them glossy. It depends on the page you run through it, but just take the image in and then just be like, I want four hundred stickers and they'll just print out four hundred stitches for you. It's fairly cheap to I was going to say we need to like size them up to, like maybe like a smaller size. I agree like I would like we have you know, my mom bumper sticker. So it's more Universal. You know what I mean? Yeah, and the bumper stickers is a good idea too. Cuz I don't want to put like a normal sticker off my car. It has to be a vinyl sticker for me. Yeah. I don't want to ever have to like take it off and then have Google on cuz the problem is is like even if you clean that Google on off your car, you're always going to have a sponge. Where that was cuz it's cleaner than the rest your Dart you the only way you're going to be able to get that off with you can is like detailing that portion of the only reason why I put bumper stickers on that and pull out there is cuz I'm going to drive that thing to the wheels fall off. So, right. Yeah, I mean to each his own I don't like putting Stickers on my car I did on my golf. They were vinyl stickers. Remember I had the was that on the Gulf? I don't remember I didn't yeah put it on it was like it looked like a Pikachu was like peeking over the window. That shit was fucking but those were like our stickers. I didn't see your golf that much. What I didn't see it that much. What were you doing that you didn't see very much. I don't remember didn't hang out with us. I don't think this when I was living with with Ben and all them. Yeah, we were just seeing each other my load last like it was always just my load with my home. Yeah. It was just always right. Yeah a couple of times but no that was the time when all the only hang out we really did was every once awhile and I came over to Ben's or we just played video games together. That was a thought you were over there all the time, but maybe that was just painted and Mitchell because Cameron Mitchell. Mostly they lived there for free. Well, yeah, cuz they when they came back for summer break when they were in college. They said on our couch the birth control sleep on our couch the entire time. They said they they were there longer over the summer. They said they were there more often than been was that they had that liquid cuz it was me Blake and been living there that summer and Mitchell comes back and Taylor would come back here and there he wouldn't stay tuned and Wednesday, but Mitchell practically stayed cuz it's just where it's where he's from but Tanner was up there in heaven. With other people he had a house up there remember that? Yeah, so he didn't he didn't stay you could come down for like a week or two, but Mitchell slept on our couch. Yeah. I saw Mitchell more than I saw been cuz that was when bandwidth is working like tons of hours, like killing himself to get through his classes and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. It was it was pretty much like me Blake and and Mitchell like all the time, but for some reason I have this like invasion in my brain, like for some reason, I think I've been in Ben's house. I don't know why but I feel like I'm missing years. I've seen his fucking on Lathrop Drive. I think it's because I've seen either videos or pictures from you guys have been in Ben's house. You've definitely seen photos. So that's why I think I've envisioned seeing what his house. I'm like, why do I know or think? I know what his house looks like having think so, I don't think I have surround the time we started hanging out with you around the time like the horny house was like Bob Are and I mean falling apart in the sense of like like the group meeting up there to like do fun stuff. It was just like not it was happening. We were all so because you you walk in the door, right? And you've got home room to the left you walk into like the dining. It's like well it's a dining area sitting area and then it's attached to living. Yeah an L-shaped and you go straight right? And then there's the cake know it's kind of off the outside but yes, I believe it is straight in front of you. Yeah Santa why do I know this? I've never been there. I feel like I've Just Seen picture arms draw blue pant of Ben's house. Thought I'd be like, okay, I'm psychic been here we go. What what's happened was having draw it. Like I see if you can draw some lady abilities or his house through me that pen. Here we go goddamnit wage so they continued I'll just draw this way you talk so that like Okay. So we've got this house. You've probably seen this. Yeah. I'm like the boy bike formation. Do you remember your pull that up? Because just think that is some of the stuff that that was our golden times man. That was one of the greatest videos. We all made them film it. No, I believe Becca know I believe Blake did it know like four know Blake Ford was handles and tassels Blake was it must writer must Noah was front-wheel. I was back wheel. Alex was the open road and then was the engine and Chassis so I don't remember who was boss. It was it back. Maybe it was Kayla. It must have been one of those do cuz I was definitely not there. I remember seeing it on social media and he's like trying I'm trying to pull it up just that music off the background who probably well. We're not see that we're not even monetized or anything. So I guess there's some reason that's okay. Let me see that's kind of what I Envision a little bit the kitchen like somewhat connected to God, but this is not bad. So this is a wall here this Is this a Jordan the kitchen? Yes. Okay. So the door to the kitchen is not here. It's actually where you had at the phone case. So I wasn't sure and it's an open thing and then we had right here. We had the what did we call that window like a kid? We had a name for it. I don't remember but then there was a couch here TVs here all along that wall. This wasn't a wall. Okay, there was a wall here. Okay, so down the hallway and then kitchen was closed off though. I just remember the kitchen was kind of closed off a little bit. So yeah, that was pretty close though. I don't know what his room and I never went down the hall where had like any wage seen any pictures going into maybe has been there. I feel like I swear have been there one. Yeah, I think there was once I think you might have been there one time. I'm I'm more so a visual learner. So if I've seen something and I memorize it and I see it. I'm like dude. I feel like I've just fucking seen that I don't know. You definitely seen like photos of us in it. I have not been there in a very long time. I guess it's completely different now since bush has been normal how I was there. It would have been with Derek but I've definitely would have brought you but I don't remember I don't remember bringing. I don't even think I don't think we have well Derek Derek didn't like towards the end. It didn't come over very often just wears the sounds of literally had a dream like seeing being in that kitchen. I'm not even kidding. That's why I bring this up a lot of good things happening kitchen was legendary. Is a good time I think it was like one of the best times I've ever had outside of high school and college when it comes to like just growing up and and going through things. Like that was one of the best times I do my time in Chicago was also like insanely awesome just to live somewhere new and like have something new but like living with my buddies and living with Blake and then because I was friends with all those guys but we never really like, I mean we hung out in high school a couple of times outside of high school, but we never like hung out a lot. But after we bought a moved there, I became a lot closer with like Noah Blake Evette Kayla and all those guys which was cool too. Cuz then it was like you just extend it was kind of like after that are two people and groups combined combined. Yeah. I think it's like the best Dynamic they're still like their own groups for sure. Yeah, but like know but it gets it's a big get together if you guys all wrong. Yeah, and they such a good time and and like everything were into is exactly the same like exactly the same. I can't find this video but speaking of like that stuff with Lauren and I went to one of her friend's house. She moved in with one of her friends oriented. No not Lawrence Lawrence Brian moved in with another one of the girls friends, but Lorne in the other. Okay, it's all confusing. These two girls are living together and we went over and we went over to see their house a dude. It was a cool house for life. Just like two people just like living there. Yeah roommates pretty much and Going back to like thinking about like Chicago or counter and I roomed together, which was awesome and like Ben's house. I missed that Vibe of like the roommate living with each other and like you have like little like spaces and then you're sharing the living room and stuff cuz now like just living with me and my wife it's just like there's no there's no privacy and there's nothing wrong with that at all. But and like I mean not that you kind of have your own space, I mean you guys kind of share it but but it's like I don't I don't feel like I need to have my own like space or like I feel like when it's usually a little too but I feel like everybody should have their own space cuz even if you guys are married there's times where like, oh you have been married forever always say like you have to have a space where you can go and be away from that person. I mean that's kind of how I feel like video games like Quake we share the office but I never end at the same time, but like some people go on drives to do that. Yeah, but like I don't ever feel like I need to like like when it's just me and Lauren, I feel like I'm in I'm in privacy foul. Just not by myself, but like, you know each other like you can be with Lauren a hundred that's time. Although it's perfect. Yeah. You want that? Yeah. How do I say I definitely do miss like birth with somebody. And then like you guys like you come home from the day for the day and you exchange like the funny stories the way you would with like guys like when I tell hanging out when I tell Lorna story. Yeah. Well, it's completely different versus how I tell like you guys like I over-exaggerated. I make it more entertaining and funny you just you like living with the boys. Yeah. I'm I'm surprised aspect. Yeah being with the your your girlfriend or your wife. So it's not too bad thing. It sounds like you're more you're more comfortable now about private see that you have a chlorine, but you would like to every once awhile, you know, what the boys again, you know another like an all-the-time thing. But like, you know, just boom let's do something that's kind of what this is down to like this is like, which is awesome. Boy time. Yeah, dude. It feels really good. Saturdays are for the boys. Did I was that's right. I was thinking about this and Sundays Sundays now, I was thinking hopefully dead. When this thing takes off every fucking day like not every day, but you know what? I mean, like it'll be on our mind all the time. But the I was saying about this a couple of days ago you were talking about like God I miss living with friends or having roommates. I was thinking I was like man what if like you two weren't married and we were doing this and we were all like fuck it. Let's go get a house and then we took it did it from our house. So we all roomed and I was like cuz I was thinking about like all the streamers. I watched like Mischief. I always bring them up recently cuz he's just like he's so popular now and I just love him. He's fucking hilarious but mischief and all those guys live together and soda pop and lives with like greekgodx and and Nick and all those guys and they live with her like girlfriends and and and stuffing all live in these giant ass breaking houses cuz they make so much money the street and getting it pretty much to get the house and they just like build off each other's content and I was like, man, I would love dog. Do that and it's like, Texas and do it. Yeah, I mean I want to so Cody and I talked about that. We were like I talk to Shiloh about it. She's also she's she's already not wanted to Thursday. I mean she likes Indiana bad. It's not bad, but she hates the cold weather. Oh, yeah cold Road and city like like like authentic food selection off like it's more, you know what I mean? But so no, it's it's Fort Wayne in the end which now everybody knows where we are but it's it's just it's not a bad City. It's just like you said, it's not a big city. So you don't have like some pineapples restaurants or like these places to go and stuff like that. But dude and like the funny thing you bring up about like what if we could like live together Cody and that when we work we were driving up to Wisconsin for like an 8-hour drive. So we talked about the podcast quite a bit. Yeah, of course we do that and we cuz yep. We'll eventually run out of things to talk about the podcast then we like looking ahead you like into the future of what you wanted to be or like. Yeah could be we're like, so what do we do? Like when we're in cuz the plan is off to move to Texas. Obviously. Yes. Sorry Mom and Dad or if you're if you're hearing this and we were like well when we move out there, we're going to be like the only people we know out there. Oh for sure. So like the living situation. We were like the idea of living situation. Create a coal sack. That's just the bulb second. It's just us three to come like three houses manager will name the road waiting in queue. Yeah, I mean he wrote you wrote. Yeah, they're young you really move to Texas know this is a huge thing. Obviously. This is future plans and people are going to be like, wow. This is crazy that you guys are even thinking about this this podcast might just want to think about what we're going to do it till it happens. Yeah to be Sabrina man Manifest this into its own thing. It's popped did it though. The the reality is out there. It's just reality that's hard to reach but it's time for us to move out there. We would obviously be doing this thing full-time at that point and we live for a while producing enough income from everything that we're doing side cuz we plan on streaming too. So will you be bringing in individual income from that but on top of yeah, it's something that it's like, okay, we've been doing this for like a year, but we only have like a thousand Subs. Let's move to Texas. It's not dead. In that were like jumping the gun on know so like for us to move out there, we would probably either a be all buying houses or we'd be building houses out there. So for us to like them by each other that's a huge possibility. And the thing is is like with by that time we're doing this full-time. We're going to be here more often. Our families are going to be mature twined I think because of like will be like, okay, we gotta make more content cuz we gotta make I mean as much money as we can make if we're doing it full-time cuz the money's not going to be like a like a salvage paying job where you're going to get the same amount every year. So it's going to be just constant work of making content or streaming or doing whatever but as a group so like did I would I would love going to be working from home dude? Yeah much. I mean, which is a nice thing. We don't have to go we want to make you know, the drive to go somewhere unless we get like a studio and like a building somewhere else or something. But like what's it's going to be nass. Yeah wage. Right now we're recording the podcast and then we're editing the podcast all in one day like the guys who watch viewers. You just see like a very tiny window. Yeah, we come here really early. We record for an hour and half and then we're here from 7 a.m. To like sometimes 11 p.m. To put out the episode the next day and it's always on it's always on a Sunday today is a special day, but you guys will still see it on a Monday, but normally it's on the Sunday. So we have to work the next day right our real jobs. So that's why it's like we're really pushing to like get it out there as much as possible. So like every time somebody shares it on Facebook or does anything like that that's a drastic help form and it sounds crazy like we're talking a lot about like the future in this podcast of like what this what the show I think that I think that's a good idea to like have so like you're just not going into it's like wow. Just let's do it. See what happens, which that's a lot of cases for a lot of people and it's very it is a noble way of like doing things. You're not doing it for the money and you know, we're not so much doing it for the money either. The money is the money would be any any money would be bonus. Oh, yeah, if but just doing this still not everybody's gotta support their life, you know your family and stuff. I think that's important. I mean, the money is definitely important in some aspects of an entirely. I mean, there's much more that we're going to have come out of this than just that the main thing is really too right now for us being so brand new is our earliest supporters did What's up early or early supporters man, the longer, you know, you guys are in it pretty early here with us. If you're already a Lexus. So like I said, if you stick with us man will remember that and like as we get you know, I mean this is going to happen with or without being laughed know this is going to happen with or without. I I feel like I agree with Cody though. He's right. I feel like we're just like apologizing for like two of them about like I apologize. No, it's no it's Santa Claus Irish it I said, it sounds like an apology counter. You think it sounds like that because we're saying like, oh, it's not about money. It is about the money. Okay? Yeah something I mean, we're not like, oh give us your money give us your money. But what's the reality indeed money to survive? Yeah, as we human life that we put into the show already and what we want it to be we don't want it is we're not doing it just for a hobby. I mean we want to turn this into a career and we'll do it as long as it takes. We're not saying like feed a dog. Money, but if you want to you know, go to patreon checkout page. Yeah and the market or we have emerged or look at this. Look at Cody's got hat on that smirk. He's got a shirt. I got a wrong turn on honestly. Honestly, I would love to see you guys buy a shirt, but honestly before that even I would love to see a sub on YouTube sub. I mean, that's that's free. It's just click you have to pay for it free just it goes a long way if you don't want to spend money, that is totally okay with us. We don't even we don't even want to second-guess. It just go hit the Subscribe button on YouTube and all honesty Jeffrey. You don't have to pay for it. So to get yeah, that's pretty much it will just want we're trying to turn this thing into something huge. So we're not even huge but something that we can wake up in the morning and and this be our job like and we've been keeping an eye on like comments and the yeah stuff like that cuz we want to hear like criticism. Even if it's bad. It's like, you know, we want to be We want to hear that is that unless it's like you guys are shet we want to hear like if you want to like an actual constructive criticism something that we can you know, get good feedback from not just like oh troll in like fuck you U guys suck. Like we will have that it'll definitely I think anybody's going to have that everybody doesn't have it and it's it becomes the downfall of a lot of like YouTubers like they can't handle it but it's because they keep reading it or they can't like let that they can't like get over it or maybe it's something that had prior in their head before they read it and then it just kind of confirm that reality so often. Yeah, it'll it'll it almost creates a false delusion inside their head. But yeah, that's that's it. You just need support right now, but To get away from like the whole support us give us money thing, which is not what we were saying. That's what people are going to think it is. How long have we been doing this? Very brave? Oh, yeah. No. No, we're good. How long do we have don't guess it. I'm going to guess ten minutes like milk off ten minutes ten minutes away from break. For the clothes nine minutes 12 minutes away. Now, we're ten minutes past bring that we were at nine minutes. Oh, I almost said 8:00 fuck I should have went down there. It's like playing with you would have been closer. Did you order it or leave it under? Yeah, I'm just I'm excited. I just get so excited like now that we're finally doing it. I mean we were doing it before with some of the other guys too. But and then but it was always like home it just kind of Never Felt Like official or like anything. It could be anything. It felt more like we were just coming in and hanging out and having a podcast but like this feels like oh leading up to launching. Yeah leading up to like, you know, like like Oh, you mean like no, I'm sorry. I love the old podcast. We did with webcams. Oh, yeah. That was very boring. Yeah, I thought so too. But yeah, I mean all we could just sit there and like talk and then like it's over a webcam. We really sucked because we were kind of almost forced to like have a topic to talk about like and only talk about that because we weren't in front of each other. It was over a webcam there really wasn't any like I mean the visual cues weren't right in front of us to like kind of feel the vibe of everything that we were talking about. I don't know. It's just very dull. I agree. I think call fucking boring man. I mean it really was just like it was just dischord zoom calling pretty much it was funny how like it came up that we eventually did build the studio is that we always were like, you know, eventually it'll get better cuz we we do have plans for doing a studio for like we should do a studio and some of us did not all of us. But yeah, I would say us three. Yeah three. Well, Ben Ben was really involved in it, but then he was like, I don't think I'll be able to his music. He wanted to do his music. So he'll go do go do what you want to do just doing what we want to do. But yeah, we were like a studio is going to happen eventually and then it just it just wasn't going cuz we were just like it's going to be long in the future. Yeah, cuz we wanted to get home late like rent a place. Yeah to do it or like I was going to buy my parents house and then we were going to build it in the garage which would have been awesome cuz we would have space. Yeah with with a Greenberg. But then they sold and got a tiny house yet. Yeah, they sold it before I could make my decision. I want to get a tiny house like a fucking mobile. Tiny house would be sick wage, but then I wouldn't have good internet. So that's a no-go to just make it like permanent a permanent make it permanent. I guess by piece of land or something RV drivers have like massive boosters you can get but they're very expensive. Well, yeah, that's how I R L streamers do it. They get these are streaming backpacks. Yes room backpacks, which it has like it's probably a vloggers do it, too. Yeah. I think they all suck sometimes just do it. Like they just record the video. Yeah, but not like travel vloggers who are like eating off of a boat, they'd use those backpacks and they use boosters to get like really I look into one. Cuz I was really trying to figure out what I wanted to do. And when I look into a backpack, you have to get like this like device that combines like the signal of like an AT&T provider Verizon provider T-Mobile, but cuz you want to have as many as you like can get and combined into this one device and that one device connects it off to your phone or like to your camera and then to the Internet so you can broadcast it. And what it does is when one signals like the strongest it uses that signal from Verizon and then when you go home jumps it jumps because you know in certain areas Verizon is going to be better certain areas. AT&T is going to be better certain areas to mobiles going to be better. So you need to have all of them. If you want to have a consist of the most consistent way to live stream blog without action with connections, but it's insanely insanely expensive because you have to pay for like for internet provider wage. Once they'd yeah, I mean the bags alone are like like five eight grand and yeah, so you can like do like, let's like, yeah if you buy a home anyhow, so like you should be able to afford a cuz tiny house is really in all reality versus an actual like house is not going to be nearly as expensive, right? Oh, yeah there there's so many cheap compared to like an actual foundation house. Yeah, like my baby a lot more for their mortgage. They only pay like $407 just for the bottom like that would be worth it off, even though that that it's that expensive like shoot like an area like out by like, you know, Huntertown and stuff and in Fort Wayne fucking it's like mm and bare minimum for like a nice house out there right off. I mean actually, you know, five hundred and two hundred K find anything really under a hundred eighty k ya know if you're sure like a nice like out in downtown area, right? Yeah, so like and then you start to go towards like almost I wouldn't even stay downtown but in between like towards like Northrop area and all that you're going to get to like 1:45 or 5 somewhere in there. So like it's a drastic drop as you get towards like downtown but like then boom soon as you get like anywhere close to a hundred down or Carolyn, you know the areas on the other side of yeah, but that's that's that's Northwest, right? Yeah. Yeah. So like that's different. I mean that that would be probably around the same thing probably be 250k. Those are those are like that's where I watch a lot of Windows those like those are by the cold Covington. Yeah. Okay social Livington. Yes way more expensive like $100,000 houses. That's what I'm thinking. You're like Covington areas but like say like an average buyers only going to spend like you said like a hundred fifty to two hundred thousand dollars. Yeah, like an average house. I'm saying out-and-out Northwest. But yeah, Cummington, Georgia Mountain River Reserve. I watch a lot of windows in my house. My aunt their Mansions my aunt lives out there. She got expensive house out there. But yeah, so I know what you mean. But yeah, I I was looking at houses to rent so not five but like rent to own and they were around the same like a hundred fifty thousand like up to 200 but we'll wait. I'm think I'm going to get a studio apartment. I think that's what you should do. Just just focusing on the grind for you to maybe I don't know how the DraStic change and it's well it's about a hundred and fifty to two hundred dollar difference than buying like a one-bedroom or renting a one-bedroom you'd be paying basically the same thing off. And that I'm paying now after like after like pet fees and like internet fee and everything. It'll be about what I'm paying now. Okay, but you're not yourself, but I'll be by myself and it'll be a radio the other Studio I want to do to move in was the studio. Yeah, you just slept on the couch your parents. Well, he would room right outside here yet convert that into cuz drive home sleep on this code. I would they'll probably just sleep in here. Like 30 said, I probably you can't sleep on that couch. You probably could I could over time you'd be like plugging. I'm going to get bad wage probably but I'll probably do it every night. You probably like video games all the time then how does the tiniest out? Oh, yeah, you can see you can see me but oh we can a little bit see a little bit. It's a little bit low. That's fair. I guess it's the it's the it's the black couch. It's casting couch. It's the casting couch. That's what it's called. You know, can we have one episode where we don't talk about? Friggin? Yes. In fact, I wasn't even talking it wasn't even alluding to that button getting. Okay. All righty, it's break time. I thought that was a good stopping point. It's break time. I think that's a good stopping point know Derek. We're going to keep doing it. We're ending this. Yeah. Well, he said we're ending it's break time. We're ending this. All righty mam be back. I guess the brake. This episode is brought to you by Swift Lifestyles a sugar free energy powder geared towards Gamers Cody. What a what do you know about a swift so far off? Well Derek, we've got plenty of different flavored drinks. We got powdered drinks we can pull up. Yep right here crash free tire energy sugar-free wage. Your amino acids with your energy booster. Oh, that's pretty much all I got for you. It's called they got flavors like raspberry grape Tropic extra-tropical blend and what about punch and lemonade? Yeah. 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Oh, that's what your mom sit up and then we brought the TV and got see the teenage. You're just telling everyone there's valuables at this house. I said it well. Yes. Yeah both look at this room. Are you freaking idiots? Look at this room dark out. Yeah, yeah the show. Episode 4 will be just me and Coda litter glitter his dad never taught him a tableau. So anyways, we're back. This is off a pumpkin and they said oh shit. You guys actually did it know my my wife's body. Derrick's wife. Fuck. Thank you Lauren if you're listening, thank you. That's amazing Lauren. I'll give her some incredible sex when we get back. Yes, don't forget to go to the boutique store or Boudoir Noir store. Yeah, check out our some some. We don't have an answer with them. Check out check out these adamandeve.com. That's right. God get her a sex mailed all free realistic mail. Okay, we gotta we've done this before. Okay, we're done with this. This wage enough is enough. You got some criticism for the last one. Yes. We did. I heard it from quite a few people but they they thought it was funny. It's funny but it's also also took away from to not be talking about sex as much as we do a dirt Connor made a horrible thumbnail that got removed immediately horrible. It was yeah, they removed it cuz I censored out a clothes sex doll. But it makes no sense. Exactly. It is salty cuz I didn't get to see it probably. Yeah, probably pretty salty. I didn't get to see it like up with been. That's a good that was a good thumbnail. Yeah. I'm thinking about making another one so we can upload one on there. So it's not just like an open now you should screen cuz it looks like shit. But yeah, I am back from the break. It was a good break. The landlords got new TV bless. You landlords got a new TV. We were going to get the old one. But I like the bezels on this one more and the sound bars on the front on this TV to yeah, which will be replacing come the next let's won't be a while, but we're going to bring in a you're not you're not buying a new TV. You got too many purchases on the page ready? What computer I'm just building another computer and a car and Magic the Gathering cards. I okay. I spent a hundred video games coming out I do off. Next month November we are back in business boys and girls because video games are coming out again. There's like what's happening speaking of four games coming out next month that are off to be pretty good. I thought they stopped making video games. I thought this is it. This is the this was the last game and just like Tik Tok. Yeah, I would kill Trump was like, nope. No more. I kill myself because off what's left when we have now War Zone in fortnite war zone important. That's all you need. I'm going to blow my brains out and we've got we've got card games now. Come on. Yeah. Actually we're just going to get into Magic the Gathering of my neighbor my new neighbor him and his wife. They're super into board games. Are they? Yeah, they play like Candyland board games. I think there is kids know there's the new new name all the new ones. Yeah. Dude, get us in on that campaign. I'll talk to him Laurens. The only one that talked to him cuz I was Here last time Lauryn talked to him I wasn't I wasn't there so I'm gonna talk to him see what if they're doing a D&D campaign. Tell them we want it dude speaking of games update on a break dude visit our parents. Is it out yet? I don't know. I don't I haven't honest I didn't get on last night, but this was posted yesterday the new talents and off. They got fanart on there too if you want to check it out, but I put it in the Discord but it's foresight ambidextrous and vigor dude. Ambidextrous is o p I missed it. Honestly with the Vigor is pretty open. I mean all three of them are great. You can run all of them bigger. Yeah, that's not true. You don't know the max. Hello is that's right, cuz of the talent like that on a point system I guess is most of those years of high-powered Channel. And so that when you should have no Shields and you just have health I figure what it does but mousse like 50% spell damage. Yeah. So even run that one bigger. It's in the same category as bigger, you know, is it I thought it was in the other tree you might be right might be in spirit keep talking. But if you line that up with Vigor, dude, I'm going to be very sad if that's in the I would almost hope it is because if if it's not Divorce source is going to be really powerful too cuz it's going to just be like a radar. So it's I think you're going to you're going to find more people are going to start finding you more often in the mid game. Oh, yeah off for invisibility to like invisibility. That's kind of a counter to it. Now. I feel like yeah, but it's only every and I can't read it. Well, if you get three Scrolls you have five seconds, right every five seconds. I think I mean eventually gets upgraded down to 10985 ready. So yeah, I guess it would work really well for it. That's if you have three Scrolls for it though. But yeah. So, oh, yeah, they are on what's yeah, they are on different cuz you could run recklessness. But but like how much is it going to cost? I think these talents are going to break the game and they're going to change or they're going to change other talents. Well because these are the only talents that have Christmas that's what it is. These are the only talents in the game that have like insane. Anything what I would like to see is these talents come in these talents break the game and then they change the other talents cuz some of the other talents are just got off of garbage and and are useless. Useless Talent. Yeah. But dude imagine this so you run Vigor recklessness. Okay, which pair up with that Health thing? Okay. So if I could recklessness you get spell damage of 20 up to 25% man costs negative 25% so less. Okay, that's a shit ton of prestige right there. Right and then you obviously have a bigger right with the extra help and then you run you don't even run a belt and then you please do you can't if you're running both those if I mean, that's what I'm saying. If you do you're you're listening, you know, yeah, that's what I'm saying. So you don't run a belt right? But you have more health and then you run you could either I mean you can pick from any of the the the mindtree Dead Which you could do more damage with Focus Mana. You could do ruin ruin things in the mind. Do there's so many options there. Well, I'm excited actually took years since mine. Yeah run bigger. The only other things you have is box that since so you just you just run bro, you know, not even further dude, you could run actually you could scavenge you could run dexterity. You could run fortitude. I would honestly probably do fortitude around 4 or scam. Are you still good? Yeah, you could run any of any of those for further too. And it's it's going to depend on how much it's going to depend on how much these cost to their three. It says, they're all around. Another thing is I know you're gone likes to and everybody's play style because I would still run forever just cuz that's my playstyle. I do like forever and I like I like ruined fluency, even though I run lightning cuz having like three am just still for me. It's just like super cuz I can use to I'd combat and then like use that third opportunity to escape if I need to I usually run when I'm running right now is Jose thirsty with the potion cut in half for time and then I run either fervor or Scavenging or dexterity with I usually always do Focus Mana the extra damage always nice, but if you're I mean with the changes dude, so with that Vigor and the new Talent of Whatchamacallit Vigor and bar site for site right you run those two together with the with the health thing now you can you're not able to run that with stone. That's the only difference so like you Gaston is basically you're going to have shields no matter what right? So like automatically you'll have a shield so you don't want to run that down. So that's a bad choice to make if you're going to do if you're going to do the Vigor you're going to get tailed. Yeah, you can be tanky with a high think that's probably what you could off cross down though. Yep. Yes, you could off. Yeah, so but I'm saying for your main got one. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah for your main hand, but I wanna make really good one even even more broken literally lightning is going to be absolutely broke off. A lot of gallons are fucking broken. Like I hate pyro, I think I think pairo like those way too much damage and it's just like the aspect of like, oh, it's FiOS always to do the most damage. Like that is super dumb to me. I don't like it. I get it's not his scan Lightnings his can so it's like you point your Crosshair you hit the button you're hitting them Home Fires projectile. But then again a lot of people use fire pretty up close rather than a distant shot. It's not made for like long-range. You know, you say God is a consuming fire. So it's the strongest I am so so dumb, it's how it isn't like all games and it's like it makes no sense. But I'm like, why do you make pyro so cuz then if you if you pair it with like taxes toxicologists, it's even more no lightning with toxicology. I pair. Yeah. Yeah, that's really good too. But I think that the song Ambidextrous is really good for off off off hand Stone gauntlets. Yeah, if you off if you run off hand stone golems you get bedrock which means then you can hit the ground. So then your life becomes powerful again, so you could run Pyro's your first get all the Pyro things or even do like shocked as a damage dealer but then Focus or Focus your stone as a gauge dealer through bedrock and then used conduit as a way to like knock people down and then have and then have the Rune fluency through the electric outlet and then run something else offhand. Mana cost would also is also getting like reduced with that ambidextrous which is like, holy crap you're going to use that second hand might become like your main. Yeah, dude. So you turn that song on into your main Gauntlet. You're only using condo hit as a way to get the Rune fluency and then you run Focus man that you're which only really own. Gives you a damage buff for your first attack ambidextrous though. You can like there's now a purpose for spellslinger which stores the extra Gauntlet and runes right right with the sorcery of cool down 15% which is a huge percentage cool down for your sorcery abilities, right? You could run into dextrous with spellslinger. That's a really good pair up. I feel like and then you run whatever else you want with it in the the body tree, whether it be forever, whatever I think that the box is just all around amazing. There's a lot of decent ones in there. I do not like Finders Keepers. I think that's always full talent. But other than that, everything else was really good, but it's all played a body is definitely play style in my in my mind around 5 or cheaper you but you better be in a three-man group that way you can find schools for ya and make sure nobody else is running Finders Keepers there. There was one game Mitchell and I played it did every chess club. I was getting scroll. I mean I tend to get them super easy lately. I thought I was like getting no Scrolls. I was like did they change how much girls and then I play that one game and we're getting a shit ton of scroll. Like I was finding all of them. Mitchell wasn't finding any and I was like mental. Are you running Finders Keepers? He goes? No, I didn't change anything. I was like dude. I'm getting like all imagine. If you did have it though. Yeah. Man. Yeah be insane but you'd have to have that scroll those Scrolls in there and place any ways for it to work. I think it seems really good. You know it start off with 50% Yeah. Anyway, the talents are really the talents are what really makes the game so good cuz you can completely build your your class for what you want to play. You're not just like jumping and then picking up a gun and then and then the next game you're picking up the same gun. It's Every, you use with the different Gauntlet changes replaced out every Talent Bill changes your playstyle like it's all directly on your own. I think the only thing they really need to work on is served problems. I would probably play a lot more again. I stopped I pretty much stopped playing cuz every time I play I get disconnected and I'm not the only one that's having that problem. I mean if you go through Reddit spell breaks read every single post every day. Well, it's a preview game still. It's it's been in a problem man in if it's a preview right now, you know, you want to have your best impression out there for the people that are the first thing you see is being able to play the game before you start adding things and it's you people off but on the other hand this game has been an alpha for two or three years. So the game has been in preview for Samsung PC, right? Yeah. I'm sure it runs much more smooth on PC tho oh it does. I I hate it on controller. It looks and roll I'll get lag spikes every once awhile, but it always corresponds with like wage. Get a huge lag Spike dude, then Conners like I'm being dissed and I'm not the only one getting disconnected from that. I've only been disconnected once in in a game. So I and I play Xbox right? I'm not getting you the only time I get a lag spike is when I go to make a clip I like right and like no other airport irrigate, but that's the only time I've actually felt a legs. Yeah, that's not the game. That's your system because the Xbox just just simply asking but honestly, I'm going to be completely honest. I've only disconnected from a game once like yeah, maybe twice I have like early only once I don't know why but I mean obviously they're on separate servers you're on a separate for than the PC and the PCM server ranges probably allow further. So being a further server range, you're going to have easier disconnects more people on the server. You're going to have easier disconnects. That's true. It's just the fact that George. Stuff they're adding was in Alpha like this stuff isn't new stuff the the talents our new the the spell or the abilities that they added those were off in the beta theirs or the alpha. There's still three more that they haven't put in that it were in the Alpha 2. So this is the only new content that they're actually adding two players that haven't played that have been playing the game. Just I would like to see them throwing some Helo in there like like kilo system. Now you guys Destiny right Helo Helo. I'm trying to think what that is. Just like rank. Yeah. So like remember the you'd go on the website to look at your stats and stuff. You see how much kilo you built up. Helo elimination you're talking about like your KD so I don't like the whole kta. I hate the k'da system. I mean, I I can obviously compute and calculate what my KD is but when they have KDA in there I've heard like if you're going to do kta, you better have some like a nilo system. Yeah, I've heard Helo. I'm just trying to figure out I don't know I didn't was spend enough time on Destiny to do the breakdown of How It's like calculated but the yellow is like I mean how you're going to be put into games with people. So like your your individual below is going to affect who you go into a game with so like the Maury low you have You're going to be paired up with people who about the same chilo. So it's a different term for school-based management based matchmaking. Yes, which is the same. I have said since Alpha that that game should have and they should have had it in before. I'm locked and they need to do that. I mean, it doesn't even have to be low it can be named completely different but it has to be somewhat similar to that. Yeah. It's still basement relative skill levels of players in zero-sum games. It's a huge term in chess but like yeah, everything has mature individual rating through your character. But I agree it needs to either have a rank system like call or OverWatch has or skill-based matchmaking. The thing about skill based matchmaking is a lot of players don't like it casual players. Do not like skill-based matchmaking because you can jump into a game and have fun every time cuz you're always going to be like matched what I thought it was the other one. I thought Rose usually don't like skill-based matchmaking cuz it's like well now I'm going to be fighting Pros on my boss just get on and just burn people. Yeah don't don't care. It's more so the streamers like the big time streamers like skunk being because I don't want to they don't want to hire their Their audience see them get their ass whooped. You know, I mean, yeah, but that would be like Pro streamers to like stuff even says like, oh, I don't like I don't want to go as matchmakers probably prostream. I got you. So those are I've seen the pro players. Well, those are like programs extreme Pro players that are streaming. I think it's I think that's fine. Then I think you know, like I'll go based matchmaking. Yeah, cuz I mean partition when about that level of like I want to play people at my level and I don't want to like, you know get on and I'm like, I'm playing against a team of twelve year olds and I just wiped the floor my confidence really high right now then very next game. I'm in I will say game one for them. I'm in a game with Scamp what? Yeah, they want to be off the twelve year olds, but then I get in the game with like scump. I get murdered around 6 was so unfair. I want to play people in my skill level each time. That's why that's the only really good job, man. You play against better, you know, either the same level or better players. Yeah and skill-based matchmaking will never be exact you're going to face off against each and every feeler. Yeah, cuz sometimes Going to have somebody who's playing with somebody who's in your rank that pulls that person to that ring. That's the problem with skill based matchmaking. That's why I'm saying just or League of Legends and the only way you get busy by playing with or against better players. Yeah here I mean you definitely learn quicker. I would think that like, sorry going if you're playing with like people who are on the same level as you the problem with that where it can become a stalemate is you don't look at it as like, how can I improve like when we were playing OverWatch, even if we want a game and these guys do this all the time, they're like we want it's not that big of a deal. I'm like it is a big deal because we could have won this way. We could have one faster we could want easier but since we're at the same skill levels of people we be we just look at it as a win per se it's like, oh my God, we'd be some of that's out of higher skill rake, that's insane. What did we do so good and that's where like skill-based matchmaking you have that but ranking you don't per say have that as much cuz you are pretty much choice. At the same level in ranking. I love ranking but like you have to look at your wins and your losses and see how you can improve even with a win obviously be excited you want you want the game you're moving up but like oh, what could I have done in that win to get that win quicker? So and I see the pro streamers their their top earlier argument with that because I mean just in anything like the sports and all that if if you're not playing with or against better players of that caliber, whether it's professional or not or whatever. The only way you can benefit and learn and really actually may see something technically like in a technical standpoint like to its Max and fullest like where it really the way the game should be played Thursday is my watching them you go on YouTube watch like for me when I was playing goalie, right as a goalkeeper, I'd watch the top tier tier one pro and the Bundesliga and yep. Germany and England whatever I watch those goalkeepers who are at the highest level. I just watch and see what they did just like a streamer you you watch them, you know you watch and see what they do differently as opposed to yourself and then boom. Okay. I'm going to see that I'm going to use that situation, you know in in my next game that I play and I'm going to do that boom. Bap Sy streamers don't want probably that skill-based, you know game format with with pairing up, you know, because now they you have to watch their stream to to learn and and change their you know, the way they play versus where I don't know. It's it's another reason you're right off another reason and they've said that says because we're like, I played on a professional level. Okay. So every game I play is not always just learning how to be better. He's like there's times where I just jump on the game and just want to enjoy the game and play the game. I'm playing skill-based matchmaking and that's I can't do that. It's going to be sweaty every time. Yeah, and he's saying that they're saying like if there wasn't as if there wasn't a skill based matchmaking I can just jump in a casual game and I can wipe the floor with 12 12 12 year old and have like a great time. You know you change that only makes skill-based matchmaking for rank, right? That's what I'm saying. Just take off match-making and you put a ranking system in the game. It's a separate thing like over real quick play with your fuel based in the ranking. Yeah. That's what you're saying. Is there two separate categories? Yeah, I play quick play and and be a casual loser or you can put that I'm saying so like it's a preview game right now, right so it's not fully released. So I'm sure they'll come out at some point with that. So like it's maybe hey I did not believe in preview games anymore every game that comes out now is a preview game. It's a fully released game. They're just going they put it under the title and you're right. They're going to add things. They put it under the title of preview so that way they don't get wage. This large amount of people at like saying like why don't you have this in the game? You just release the game. The game's not finished because of games like Anthem and things like that. Yep. That's the only way they can bet it right but it's but it's not it's a fully released game. Yeah, usually fully released and they're going to do updates. Right? So but it's it's a live-action game. Yeah. Yeah, I would rather they do that than off. The game died as a full fully released game now, but he's pissed off, you know sure they should but the thing is is it is a fully released game. They're just a majority of players. Don't they just labeling as it's labeled as I know. Yeah, I get that it'll never like regular time. This game is like a game that comes out and you pay for the game you pay? Okay, but it's a free game though, but you'll never have to pay for it. If they write down a free game. I mean, so like I see their their point of view. So like that's fine right? I'm not saying that free game, but you get what I'm saying? They should be able to do that. You know. Well, it's the same thing for Thursday. As they've been later during with things trying to figure it out. They've been labeling themselves as a beta and Mitchell was telling me he read an article about it. It has something to do with like that's how they're able to change the game so much cuz they get money. They just get money. It's not a bad thing. It's great. That's a yeah. I love it. I I know it's it's insane. I love it too. I'm just saying like there's there's times where a a studio still has to be accountable for releasing something that needs something but didn't didn't get it released. And the thing is is they put a preview word on it and nobody holds them accountable which happens what happens then as you have games to do die in preview stage because player stopped playing them because they think oh, I'm in preview. I don't have to put it in the game right now, right? I'm just saying like, I don't want the game to die. I love the game. I love that song preview game in my eyes. It's a fully released game. It's been an alpha for four years your and I hold I hold people accountable now after Anthem after he a murdered that amazing wage. Oh for sure so much better than it was. Well, I think everybody in Bucks dude, I'd be pissed too. Yeah, but it's not just that it wasn't it was a game that was just rushed what I'm saying is like wage if I mean spell breaks. It's a free game though, right? It's like fortnite. Okay, it's free. Well, the thing is is like you can't necessarily be mad about it. Unless you've spent money on skin and stuff. Sure. Okay be mad about it. I'm not bad or I'm not saying you're mad. I'm just saying for everybody else. You know what I mean? Like who are pissed off about that but you'll be pissed off about being disconnected every fucking game you play. It doesn't matter if it's free or not. You can't play the game that I will okay. Yeah. So that needs to be number one before adding a shit ton of content. They need to worry about keeping players plane adding skins and content. Yeah decide you will kill your game. If you can't have players play the game day off. Yeah, but they also need at least release some I think they've done a good job because honestly, they've they have literally and rear and the same skins. Oh, they don't have a lot of skins. They haven't added. That's what I'm saying. Like they have very minimal amount of skins and they just keep rerunning on once they go through week-by-week, right? Yeah, but I'm so they need to make money to still maintain their updates and then plug fixes and all of that which they they did. I think that was the first update I saw at least they did like a bug fix and all that. They've done like three or four. Yeah. So I mean, I'm not trying to do those things but it's hard. It's it's difficult when it's a free game cuz you're not getting that upfront pay out for them. You know, so like I think they've done a pretty good job. It's just it's going to take time and that's why I like that they call it a preview game because it's going to take time and you're not lying to your guys, you know that are playing the game and saying that okay. This is a full release game. Even though we know it's shit now, it's not shit. I'm just saying like no I'm saying company some people dish it though because they're disconnecting every fucking well, that is shity. Yeah, that's that's a shity but what I'm saying is like I'm fine. I want them to call it a preview. It is a preview game. It's a Foley release game, but it's not a game that's finished. So it's it's a preview game. What I'm saying is players ought to recognize that it's it's a fully released game and preview means that it's not having issues. Yeah, and the thing is is is either people don't realize that or they think like oh, this isn't the fully release so it's okay that it's bad right now. It's not. Okay. That's like pubg do back when I played pubg when it first came out on Xbox dude. It was fucking garbage, but I took it anyway now, it's great. You don't really see so many issues. Look at that as you do now. Yeah, I mean, I mean, even if it's like a paid like four game like fully finished game you paid $60 if them In server issues there going to be like, oh like shoot we gotta like we still have to fix. Yeah. See I'm not talking about you you played for or you paid for right games like that. Yeah. This is free. It's totally different. That's why I'm saying like give him a little bit of slack. You know what I mean? They're not getting that um for upfront costs or not scamming you into fucking buying it on release so but like bugs and down buttons are issues come with game launches free or not that happens. Yeah, but it it's when it's been happening for too long. Now too long that it can kill you and I'm just saying I agree with them like I like these I think nowadays how Games come out is the coolest way cuz I'm a guy who likes games to come out and then stick to that game for a long time. So the constant content drops that are free are awesome. I love season based games. I love that aspect of gaming now. It's just I've also seen a lot of games die because they don't they either a don't listen to their players or the place. Is just aren't paying attention and the players leave and it just happens all the time. Small breaks. Fuckingawesome. I love it. I probably won't be playing it next month. It probably won't ever let's play very much. Ever again. But that's just because Destiny comes out Call of Duty cold water comes out not getting that right now, but that's a lot of new fiber punks coming out next month. I'm going to be playing cyberpunk song. God God punk. I don't think I've heard of the name, but I don't know anything about him with Keanu Reeves going to be in it's a it's an open. It's an open world. RPG game open world know. Yeah, John even care that it's an RPG. It's an open world RPG. That's stay open world Yamin pull up one of the phone. I'm doing my job. Do you say open world wage? Holy faak. You're an Xbox player. And you don't know what the fuck cyberpunk is Cody. I should slap your ass. I think this is this has been in the works for how many months that's almost over a year. Now. It's been delayed twice. Okay, that's what I thought. That's that's probably why I didn't pay much comes out next month. We're going to watch this trailer. So for your audio listeners to be three, so this is this is the is this the first one or the newest other than this is the first one, okay. Cyberpunk, 2077. Yeah, sci-fi futuristic. It's going to be cool. I'm excited. I'm liking it already dude, if there's like there's like there's like different sections of the city where there's like a club part of the city love when they do cinematics, dude. I love it and I'm like a yeah. So you can get in this game or in this world, see how he's a cyborg? It reminds me of like what's going on with you can purchase like for your body? All over the news. This is literally going to be reality and like 2770. You got the chip. All right, start it up. You go to the bathroom wash up. We going to be with you in a minute. Come on, man. Your neck. It's a mess. You can come back home. That's all we are going to the Major Leagues. j o get to clinic now. It's Doyle's condition is critical immediate. Hold on. Just think about all the good life. When you're a cyborg, you don't have much option once you're dead dead. Well there there's no humans. Yeah, they sell you a human. Well, they're not even half human. They're just humans that you can you can purchase like if you lose an arm you can or you can have your arm amputated then get a robot like it's a game with not the game but the movie with Will Smith iRobot iRobot. Reminds me of that seems like his arm is it looks it's a human arm, but it's got like a got attachments and stuff on it. Yeah, it's modified wage tax every corporate companies cities going to be blasting down these doors after what you and your psycho friend did we didn't need all this cocksucking attention, Definitely amateur game. Yeah. we should he was not playing. She's got like power generation to like yeah Bluetooth spoken kinetic shit. That's insane. Yeah, it should be really cool. Right here, Cody. way to fuck off actually Kiana like how they put that at the end to that was good while they they that was the E3 trailer. So that was the announcement trailer that way back in 2019. We're like everybody else. Everybody saw everybody was cuz it was out like everybody knew cyberpunk was coming, but we hadn't seen a trailer for it yet. And then we saw the trailer and then when Keanu Reeves the crowd went fucken but ballistic and that's when Keanu Reeves came out on stage and he was like, somebody was like your your wonderful or your fantastic sound like that like know you're fantastic job became that internet meme. That's what I mean from its from E3. And yeah that cyberpunk that comes out next month towards the end of the month Assassin's Creed Valhalla comes out which I will be playing cuz it's bike rack and who doesn't want to play a viking Assassin's Creed game did like next month four or five games. I played like three Assassins Creed games in man. I just felt like it was Repeat for me. So like I couldn't get into it completely. I like the aspects of it, but it was like if nothing changes with like I don't know how you grapple the wall and all that. It's all right. So good though. That's why they didn't want to like the three storylines the xul dettori. Holy cow, bro. Those are the best three Assassin's Creed ever. So freaking dead think I stopped after what was Italy maybe it was the one after that that went all the way up to like 4. After Xeo alaturi, it was no longer in Italy it took place in Florence and all that cuz we have Black Flag which was in the Tropic Long Island's cuz you're a pirate and then we had the French Revolution, which was awesome place in America. The Civil War in colonies know that was the Civil War. Was it the Civil War I pressed Foundation would have been in rent France. It wasn't the Civil War cuz we fought the British in it yet, which he did you played as that Indian guy right honor I think Civil War we didn't fight the British what his name was, 7 a.m. Yeah. You're right the can't believe I said that now. Yeah, I mean we know we're in Revolution American Revolution. Not the French. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. So are you confused me? I was like, hey, I'm not a civil war one. Yeah, I know there hasn't been a civil war one. Yeah. Yeah, but and then they had they had the one in Egypt which was way too mythological for me. I was like, it's not very realistic same page to see the Odyssey one has like which is the one after that which was the Roman Empire Greek whatever it is and they're both shit. They're like so bad. Well, I don't like it. It's cuz they play it more like a RPG more or like you're finding so Isabella. Yeah, and then like the health bars on people. I like the original like combat-style welcome. So like you hit the guys a couple of times they'll die. And then when they come in to strike, you can counter them and kill them like the same thing. Yeah, but they have health though. Now you still have in static expectations and the fights like you still have that opportunity to like counter it and then do a like execution on them. That's still there. It's just they're changing the aspect of it to be more of an RPG than just need a rail-based games real basic games are like quality type execution One games do that. I like the fatality of a second a Mortal Kombat. Yeah. I like like zooming a tan like an automatic. I feel like you have to do like a crazy combos to do an execution in a game like that. Like it has to be like that. Otherwise, it's not that challenging you do executions that are easy to execute with low Health like yeah, that's cool and all but like like they weren't like something there. You just click a button though. It was like you're you were fighting like birth. We're fighting like twelve years of time. Okay. So timing. Okay, that's different. Yeah, cuz when you were like in a group in the city and you're playing X as x e o you have a sword and two hidden blades and it's like you're fighting twelve guards who have like long Spears. So like you could be like attacking one person and you see that somebody behind use about this. So you have to dodge that stop attacking the other person counter that poem with the spear and then like you'll do that but it's all timing like it's not like just and then like and then that's that's okay. I like stronger enemies to they don't even let you oh, yeah, you kind of gave them a stronger guy will grab your arm and like throw you to the side. You can't even do reminds me of shadowkeep. Gotta keep what does it show keep Shadow of Mordor Shadow of Mordor. Yeah. Yeah. It's that's exactly the same kind of I like that concept. Yeah, dude concept Valhalla. They show dead gameplay trailer for I say shadow. Keep what is shocking? That's Destiny Destiny. And now the shadowlands is World of Warcraft. What's a DLC? Isn't it? Expansion? Yeah, it's the expansion that just bought. Okay now is the most recent one? Yeah. Yeah. It's more of a fucking DLC then it drops. I'm sorry. That's more of a deal see than an expansion. The next one's an expansion. I'm an idiot guys. Haven't noticed. I'm not knitting very questionable person. I'm just excited man or finally going to have some games, but I haven't been I haven't wanted to play games and like 3 months. There's nothing to play a game. I mean I play spell-break a lot but then it was like all right. I'm like I'm like in Paul guys, too, but I got you never get on. Yeah. I know I got my I got my first Crown I was excited about that. Oh, yeah, David got his first crown on Fall Guys, dude. That's right. I saw that long waited about it too. Didn't you if you look up the time, I've played versus the time Tim the tatman played. I got my crown sooner than him. Yeah. I saw that one. And I've played more than Derek. I will say I help there and get there but you know, okay, that was crazy though. I grabbed the phone from a die-hard destiny fan. Yeah player to see if he would have never got that on. You know, he probably still be in the dark looking now. They're exchange as a man because of that ground. He is reborn Fall Guys has to image Paul guys have changed entirely. Yeah not no longer a boy. I'm a I'm a little bit older boy. Yeah. We just need to get treated now. Yeah, I wish to get a tattoo on you that says off first round all day. We should and it's on your head like, yeah. Like I said, you could say or instead of my first Conti be like The King The King well known in parentheses ball guys, the Crowne Plaza across the top like Advanced it for head tattoo. I would literally Salute You the crown will go across my forehead, but then around my face. Pink a bunch of like like I like the Fall Guy just kidding. Oh man. It was it was pretty awesome. I was very happy cuz we were we played for them that night. It was the night season 2 came out. Yeah. I didn't awesome tweet and nobody liked it. You'll get their podcast. I don't spend much time on wage earner. If you have noticed I did back when I was playing ball. I had like a Twitter of like almost two thousand followers and I deleted it because I hated Twitter so much I should have never done that I had thought I was getting damned by like people to do like sponsors and this net and then I fucking deleted my Twitter and made a new one for I don't even know why and then I forgot the password to the new one. Now. I have a third one just like followers. I'm like, whatever dude. Oh my gosh. I I was at that point in my life where I was like, dude. Block social media. I'm tired of hearing all the garbage on social media. Like I was just I don't know maybe it was my algorithm and what was being attracted towards it but it was just toxic shipping them know what my Mustang smile on my TL, you know, like twenty years. It's pretty helpful red and nowadays. It's become very censored thoughts. Definitely not the right. It was when it first came out but Twitter is very hostile, but it is also a very good place to get instant news on everything not like a typical news. But like my I follow a lot of streamers and Gamers so I get like instant news on like what they're doing further streams or you know, stuff like that or like what games are coming out like I found out right off of that Cristobal got they shut down Crucible. And and all that like the minute happened. I like Twitter Twitter's tourist. Pretty good. Yeah, it's just it's just not blowing it. Yeah, but you'll have that anywhere. It's just Twitter Twitter has more that like speak more of your mind. Well this this was back when it was somewhat newer. So like I think people really hate behind their their screen there. Oh God. Yeah. We're learning more. Yeah more so. All righty. Yeah. Yeah. We're at a hour 29. All right. Well, I guess that's the episode. Yeah, I'm going to take a shit and I do after she beats the cat. I have to stop her. 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Eating Like a Science Guy

Science Rules! with Bill Nye

51:16 min | 2 years ago

Eating Like a Science Guy

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It's in who you fall in love with rules and ethics and everything we can make the world better for everybody startling welcome to science rules. I'm your host Bill Nye. This is the show where science rules as to call Paul in show. If you want to be on the show please go to ask Bill nye dot com type on in tell us what's on your mind and I'm joined of course by science writer editor and Dear Friend Korea's Pell Hello Corey Aury bill great to be here with you. When I was of getting excited about being an astronaut age I was nine years old? I took my first trip to New York New York the town so nice they named it twice to the world's fair. This is before the Internet people we would have these big exhibitions corporations and governments from around the world but put on display their finest efforts the future about the future and so on and the United Nations had a total board total. Is there a scoreboard depicting the presumed or estimated number of people on Earth Human Population and we had just missed it changing from two billion nine hundred ninety nine million nine hundred ninety nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine the people to three billion people will today there well over seven and a half billion people by twenty fifty. They'll be nine billion people and they're all going to want to do what cory I would imagine. They're all going to want to eat. That's right food and so I wonder I say to myself. Bill Nye host of Science Rules Guy <hes>. How are we gonNA feel? These people and I think about that when I'm eating and of course when I'm eating I also you think about science I think about cooking I think about what changes to food. When we heat I think about boiling water and the Little Bubbles of water vapor? It's exciting and so to discuss this. We have have a guy who is fascinated. Perhaps obsessed with humans relationship to food. That's right people from the sport fall none other than Dan Pash moment. Thanks guys oh that's very advanced sound effect you have after the applause which then yes sir greetings. Why do you do the sport full what goes on sports we'll so it's a podcast and I love to eat and really I really really really got a lot of pleasure from food so so I started this podcast nine and a half years ago basically in my living room because I love to eat in our slogan for the show is it's not for foodies? It's for eaters and I love to obsess about the tiniest details of the eating experience experience I love to interview comedians and celebrities about what they're eating and learn more about other people other cultures and get into some time serious issues of identity by talking about food so and we do food science a lot of food science so speaking of food science yes <hes> have you thought a lot about the effect or the impact of nine billion people trying to eat on the earth surface for sure yeah and what do you do you see as a piece of cake. Pun intended great challenge one hundred percent. It's certainly it's a it's a big concern for all of us and there's the issue of food waste. There's the amount of effort that goes in every bite of food that we take there is an impact on the planet to produce that by the food some bites of food require more effort and impact than others and then to put in a lot of effort to food and then has some of that food go to waste is these is even worse. I'm not joking. Do you say grace or a form of grace before you eat. I don't my friend Eddie Koblenz my best friend growing up his family. We always data when I would go there for dinner. I would always forget that they did that and I would start eating by accident but in look you're fine now but there's there's time there's a lot to it to taking that moment to appreciate all the effort that goes into into producing any sort of meal I mean anything and it it it this applies from what did we have today. Cups of tea tea leaves are grown on farms on the other side of the world and yet they're commonplace and we take it for granted just heating up the water to make the tea or more importantly perhaps the coffee <hes> it takes tremendous amount of energy that somehow available to everybody and so we can't take for granted man one hundred percent and I certainly have made an effort to eat less meat than I used to <hes> partly for health partly for environmental reasons and so I try to eat <hes> less. I probably fifty percent less meat than I did ten years ago so if you everybody if you wanna be vegetarian the old saying is start with one night a week right work your way out. If that's your thing AH resolution like it used to be that I would have a Turkey sandwich for lunch and then some kind of meat for dinner like there was always meet at lunch and always meet at dinner. Would you for breakfast cereal or no breakfast. Whichever neg- sometimes that's three sources of animal animal protein animal protein right depends what you want to count that as me because he didn't have to kill an animal in the process generally not if you do you get a lot fewer aches? You're kind of doing it wrong right but I resolved that I would only eat meat at lunch or dinner as many right as possible. That's cutting it in half shooting from the hair and I've been pretty good at <hes> at keeping that up so Dan. This is often a question people have is. How do you remain mindful about all these things about your food but still enjoy your food? You know not feeling guilt all the time do you. You find does being aware of other issues. Does that interfere with your pleasure or does it any maybe even enhance your pleasure once in a while. It interferes that are days that I feel guilty about things. I'm eating but it's probably infrequent sort of guilt you feel well like <hes> actually no when I feel feel more food is when I waste food okay that makes me feel joy three types of guilt okay wasting food right then <hes> guilt where you've eaten something you feel you shouldn't have eaten right and then right you because it will you too big dessert right. So you feel bad about yourself right then the third one would be when you've you've done something to the world where you've eaten meat that made by a cow that used to much water to be produced in the poor for cow and so on right. I would say definitely feel guilty if I waste food and I eat and that's what is I deal with the fear of that guilt by eating food that I don't even want to be eating so they're onto throw it in the garbage and then I overeat wasn't even hungry and then I feel guilty for over and you have kids. That's what you do right and then I've earned like my father before me bill. I have been nicknamed the human garbage disposal. Oh wow it's really be proud if the circle of IT'S THE DAD cleaning process just whatever's on the table. Hey that's not going to waste so as I mentioned earlier. This is a call in show ASS BILL NYE DOT COM corey looking over <hes> to you in your direction. I see that we have callers we do. We have collar <hes> named Nicole you there. Yes I'm here okay. You are on with Bill Hi. I'm so this question came up last year when I was teaching marine science and we were talking about cold <hes> dense Balti- if you see water and somehow leads to a teacher who taught near me who likes to be the smartest person in the room thing that the reason why people thought their pasta water is to lower the boiling point so that it will foil faster and I have learned than that a lot of people think this so. I don't know where that came from. Do you think that helping the water has any effect on flavor or temperature so cool I this is is as corey pointed out. This is a fabulous question. I think near and dear to all pasta enjoy her then among which you are whom if I make constructed big enjoy big enjoyer yes so why do you feel because I got strong opinions here on physics but why why do you feel we solved the pasta water in terms of the science. I'll defer to you bill. I have heard the same thing that putting the salt in the water makes it boil faster so sometimes that put salt and water when I'm making hard boiled eggs just because I thought it would make it boil faster but I'll let you overhaul it true but I do WanNa say that salt in water for flavor absolutely makes a difference and when you're making pasta absolutely should sought your wallet water liberally with more salt than you think you need to know make your pasta tastes much better just because it's he's got that salts mouth stimulating jolt of Sodium Ion exactly so corey yes. You're a science reporter with years of of behind the keyboard of a veteran one might say so do you do you have a strong opinion about the salt and the boiling because I do strong opinion about salt and my my my opinion is that the the man's planer here might be a little bit off base Nicole Nicole was this AH person presenting this information to unsubstantiated. Was this person a man or woman man okay so he was Mas- playing but thank it is the call is called three other men yeah. We're only going to people SPLAINE here. This is the nature of this shows. Only people splaine okay thank you but so so does lowers the specific specific heat of the water which the water can hold less which would make a boy a little more easily but also you know salt in general adding extra things to the water raises the boiling point the thing is both those effects are very very small to appreciably change the boiling point. You'd have to add pro like one hundred two hundred grams of salt. It's it's a lot of show leader. Two to one liter ten ten or twenty percent of the mass of the thing would be salt right. You'd have to be really dumping salt in there to have a big impact on the boiling but here's where I think the myth originates Nicole and thank you so much for calling <hes> when you you may have seen or encountered a beer or perhaps more importantly champagne campaign the key there what makes it so delicious is taking the vapors into your nose and this is done by making the champagne sparkling by having organisms in the process in the fermentation process that produced this gas and the bubbles that form form on what physicists like to call nuclearization sites where the bubbles nucleate where they form a center where they form the nucleus so if you have very hot water it sitting there on the stove getting hot getting hot getting hot and you put in a couple tablespoons of salt with its rough edges sharp crystalline corners then the thing will start to boil immediately. You've you've <hes> you can get it super heated as it's called take it just slightly above it's boiling point before bubble start to form and so when you put the salt in Wam it starts to boil and so this could easily lead to a reproducible usable phenomenon that would cause a human to conclude that the salt caused it to boil which is true but then you would take it one extra unsubstantiated step and stay the salt caused it to boil sooner and I think. The most important thing I'd take away here is that salt in your pasta water makes the pasta taste better. I think that's the thing that really mad. Let me interested because I've had the exact experience you describe bill that I have added especially like when I get impatient patient. The waters already been on the stove. Thanks getting hot. A watch pot never boils but a watched with salt does seem to boil and so what is happening putting then if it's not a altering the boiling keep in mind you know people say is like watching paint dry to describe something that would be disenchanting right or is like watching waterboy. I encourage everybody to do both both someday watch water boil. It is astonishing it forms tiny little bubbles and then it forms Peter and bigger bubbles that public the surface and if you don't believe me try holding a match alighted hid match above your boiling water it will go right out because what's coming out of the with the bubbles are forming <hes>. They're not bubbles of air. Those are not bubbles of air people's their bubbles of water vapor another gas. That's around us all the time life between me and the microphone between you and your loudspeaker situation earphones Nicole is water vapor and it's another separate gas that does not sustain combustion and it comes out of the boiling process. It's cool okay so so the great experiment for you to do Nicole. Are you yourself a a <hes> a pasta water salter. Are you a user of the salt method. I'm I am but I only have ever heard of it for flavor except one one time when I was watching an episode of CIA and one of the contestants said that a mentor had told them for never salt their pasta water open minded but very skeptical that's wrong. That's there are a lot of maniacs in the World Service Cory Cory along this line someone you're very close. I believe she's your wife. Yes my wife. The doctor is very close with record. You know we'll continue this conversation but she's <hes> physician she is. She has opinions about salt. So a lot of people stay away from salt persons. Probably telling you not to salt the water or saying Oh you we've too much salt in our diet salt causes hypertension. This is serve a well well-worn. We're in trump but if you're if you're not actually diagnosed with hypertension if you're not already risk of serious high blood pressure for most people the your salt intake really does not matter that much you can you can have a lot of salt and your Diet and you're define Dan. You've review insisted it sounded like put in a lot of salt. Yes I have heard this from from some of the nation's foremost pasta mines that you need a lot of salt in that in that water because when you bite into that you know you're sure you're gonNA I saw senior pasta but when you take a first bite out of that Pasta hot out of the boiling water there two things you're tasting for when is the texture his firm and toothsome to thinkable is the technical term L._S._U.'s Syncopal yes this exhibit beyond Dante. This is higher level more scientific term spectrum of to think ability right right ability. That's right and so then you wanNA taste for the flavor and the flavor it should be a little bit salty. Pasta should taste good plane sure you can make it better. We're to be taste totally bland coming out of the pot then nothing you look at it nothing Nicole. Thank you so much great question. I love this next question as someone who there's a fascinated by the future. I'm very fascinated by this but this next caller who wants to know about lab-grown meet we have dub and let's see w there I am ear for me on guys appreciate this. Thanks thanks for taking the time Del lab-grown. Thank you yeah yes sir <hes> so the question I really how far we are. We from affordable pre lab bruce need <hes> I have a diet of a high high I protein hype bat seems to work really well for me and it really works best when with animal protein but just kind of like you guys were discussing earlier. There's you know the battle ethics <hes> behind it or the guilt behind where the tweet comes from so this <hes> intrigues me quite a bit so I have on the electric T._v.. Machine I have tasted lab-grown meet. It tastes exactly like meat so what researchers I have done is get the stem cells of meat and grow them in culture and <hes> they produced a hamburger that right now would cost hundreds of dollars per burger or fraction of two hundred dollars per burger. It's basically like Jurassic Park Right. It took a little bit of DNA essentially cells from a real live animal and they grow it in they take those dozen grow them into actual meet growing another new animal growing the like the muscle of the cow without the rest of the cow. There's no baseball glove weather. No intestines no cat GUT FOR GUITAR STRINGS CAL mind. Whatever come I know cow mind? Yes mind of a cow so I tasted the news remarkable. It's just like meat but then there's people that were in the audience that were as bit as creeped out by eating slab grown cells as eating animal of true or <hes> from whole animal normal cell furthermore recently. I was with my friends at the Union of concerned scientists and we visited his lab where there have found a protein and molecule they refer to as the theme of having to do with hemoglobin an iron and so they've found they can insert this genetically genetic modification of crops and get it to get for example a soy product act to taste like meat so when I think about the cost of this hamburger right now getting back to this one idea thank you for calling dub you get back to the cost one hundred dollars right now but if you're making on McDonald's scales sales you gotta think it would be cheaper far cheaper. I mean pick a number one hundred of the cost of raising hall cow on the giant farm so I can imagine as research continues dub that this will become affordable in one form or another by that I mean either in a derived vegetable form or in the derived animal for him. I mean we are all one of the insights of Russell Darwin is near as anybody can tell. Every living thing you've ever met is descended from a common ancestor so we all have D._N._A.. We've got this thing so it seems to me. There's some convergence coming so dub. Stay tuned. I am confident I predict here early. In the the twenty first century that <hes> laboratory style or industrial style satisfactory meat products will be available reasonable cost and double my corrected. That's something that you're waiting for. You sound like you're you're eager for lab-grown Burger rather than creeped out by. Is that true yeah absolutely no no creepy factor that at all it's so funny to me what what we consider creepy and then not creepy. These things are so subjective in there so it can be different different cultures around the world. I mean the idea that like taking chickens leg and biting into it is totally normal normal thing right exactly but yet like taking this thing out of this Petri Petri dishes totally bizarre and strange. You know like you know I I don't know when you really think of it as an actual chickens leg. I think that's seems more creepy pretty creepy furthermore. Let me you Dan you've eaten everything everywhere right I eat. I've covered a lot of ground so compare a lobster or a crab in New England this at one point the lobster was considered such junk fish that was not allowed to be fed to prisoners more than twice a week right. It's called the Cockroach of the sea and then people eat cockroaches crickets crickets. What am I working for or thought tra- blatty in your insect family and I mean order and family so you've eaten a lot of crickets? I have tried some. I wouldn't say a lot I will be honest. They got a little bit of a of an insect creeped right rebelling. I wouldn't judge other people certainly doesn't get intellectually. It makes total total sense to me a unit crab creek yeah like often sound like I've eaten crickets and type of ice cream and they were crunchy and it was fine. I've eaten a lot of termites. What do you think of those refine because they were prepared in how to say like you would prepare chuck roast meat with garlic and other conventional seasonings and they are crunchy and quite satisfying quite satisfying shortage of termites? Ah That's not happening tested meal worms. We're also quite good. We tried that out on the on the on the bill nye show on Netflix yeah so this is a dub. You've raised an excellent question you just think about how we've industrialized agriculture. Ah Ready and people are concerned or critical of industrial agriculture but that's how we feed seven and a half billion people instead of fewer than a billion you know my grandparents are my great grandparents time. There were fewer than a billion people in the world. Now there's going to be nine speaking of which thank you stick around for more science rules after this the science rules is brought to you by honey book. 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There's something called a newtonian fluid named after Isaac Newton and I knew who is this guy he discovered or quantified as far as anybody can tell the first guy to write down the idea that not only is the earth polling the apple down but the apple apple somehow ever so slightly pulling the earth up and he's sitting around musing and Latin. You know it seems to me our son is really a star. Just like all those other bright points of light interesting insight have a nice day what was his amid along with at that he investigated fluids stuff that flows and we're talking about oil and water and he had these two concentric cylinders cans and he'd spend one inside the other and watch too much draghi created before we had catch up and it's modern force correct yeah and he even in order to solve the problem and understand he invented a calculus type of math involving infant an infinite number of infinitely small things wow along with that we create we we use the modern expression newtonian fluid why can oil like water like air is a newton generally newtonian fluid but toothpaste and catch up they do not behave leave like newtonian fluids and so there's something about the molecules their length and the way they linked together that makes them <hes> stay pretty well stuck until you the expression the physics expression until you sheer them and you know what cheering is everybody because you've used a pair of shears. A pair of scissors and shearing is where one surface is going one way and the surface next to it is going the other way and so the toothpaste aced the ketchup sits in the tube or the bottle until you give it a jolt until you stress it until you shear it and so then the toothpaste comes out like crazy and the ketchup comes out like crazy in the furthermore fabulous thing Jacob about your insight here <hes> Derek I mean Derek I was joking. I meant Derek Derek the somebody discovered or reason or screwed around with ketchup enough to design a bottle. That's that's wide at the bottom and tapered tapering near the neck near the near the outlet of Ketchup so after really whack on it to induce enough sheer for the catch up to come out and when it comes out it comes out won't say in a catastrophic way but allowed catch up at once and this has wonderful properties for hotdogs vegan hotdogs impossible hotdogs and impossible fries and French fries us or pomfret whatever it is and so the reason is as we sit in a magician would say what cory Dan Magician say. It's all done with magic mad mirrors with the chemist says says it's all done with molecule. That's hilarious but I <hes> it has something to do with the interaction of the sugar which has these O._H.. Is Hanging these hydroxy groups hanging on the edges of molecules and the water. That's in there were bonds on bonds bonds bonds and then it shakes loose when you give it enough sheer and just think what a mess it would be to try to deal with toothpaste. The just came out of the tube as soon as you have to be no good pasting. Isn't it something about about a non newtonian fluid like catch up that that it takes a long time for it to start moving. That's what I mean but once it starts moving it tends to increase in veloce yeah it's once you get at shearing off at cheers. You got the weight and then you get the incredible gratification so now now now Derek. Are you a fan of thick ketchup. What what on earth prompted this question <hes> I was always given <hes> I catch up as the example of what non newtonian fluid <hes> is and everybody you know catch up being so ubiquitous you know it's real easy for people understand <hes> how a non Newtonian who behaves if you think of it like catch up what I never understood really was why catch up is not your Tony if you think about the ingredients it's mostly water? It's salt. It's sugar. It's you know that's a good question. So I invite uh-huh listener an expert on this to check in but I'm pretty sure it has to do with interaction of water and sugar and sugar is this <hes> die. Saka ride has two sides die sides and so the water which is H.. O. H. Two oh and the dice sack ride has these O._H.. Is Auction hydrogens hanging off the side and there's some fabulous interaction between the distance on like Benzene Ring Ring were six carbons are in a circle billiard goes deep here well. There's some interaction with the distance between the corners of the ring and the length of water molecule and but it is everybody you can experience non Newtonian influence with ketchup and there's this fabulous old word. Somebody coined thick SA- tropic it. It's it moves in a fix way. Come on Great Word Dickson. Try to kids to say that catchup is thick as good. Though does anybody say lit tropic. No I think but I think that I think that fixed the tropic is a great band name Bill. If you WANNA take that road well we could but I it was really their first album stuff yeah fix the tropic overproduce Bill Nye fix bill nine the tropics so if it were a basketball team and what like the jazz right just be fixed atrop- with the be the thick SA- tropic. I think it would be a thick the thing like the heat it'd be. It'd be anyway Derek. You started on this. Thank you so much. Thank you for taking us there. Thank you <hes>. Let's see Larkin. Are you on the line I am. How are you <hes> we're good? <hes> we have a question we would like to answer all right so my question is doesn't have as many moral implications this all of your your big picture Berkshire questions excellent melts. It's a it's a simple when I melt butter in the microwave safe for popcorn or something like that I have noticed that sometimes it melts really quickly and sometimes time even if I chop it into tiny pieces it takes ages to melt like I'm hitting the thirty second but in over and over and over again I can't tell you that the tempting or microwave thing or a salted versus unsalted thing. What do you think's going okay? I'm GonNa be very skeptical of salted versus unsalted. Now we are not there with you. We cannot enjoy this Larkin. Your your butter endeavors. But how much flipping butter are you melting the worn punching the thirty thing more than once like if I have in my just talking again about me if I have a stick of butter and I wanted to be soft six seven seconds in the microwave and you're going to get it to slice ability when you you WanNa melt it to include a recipe or perhaps more importantly poor on popcorn then you're into your thirty five forty seconds but you're not into your two minutes is how much evacuate you would think but I am taking. Maybe a quarter stick half a stick of butter. I have nutrition degree so I try to be mindful of the butter and I'm chopping it into like quarter-sized ceases and it is not not now. I have another hypothesis for you. Larkin different areas areas of your microwave have different intensities of microwave radiation microwaves microwave flux flow of microwaves so next time you are confronted with us and I think you have to work backwards. If I understand it you have to find a stick of butter. That's not melting very well. Move it literally to another part of the microwave <hes> another part of the turntable or the center of the microwave and I also cannot help wonder none of our business of course but are you keeping the butter in say a PYREX pitcher and it's in the refrigerator and you take it other refrigerator and so the heat capacity of the pirates pissed pitcher has to be overcome before the butter is GonNa Melt. I'm just wondering not usually usually it's usually in a bowl like just a carell where bowl love the corral not that I'm spokesperson but it's a it's a great product as a result of understanding ceramics so keep us post time next each time doesn't melt try moving into a different area different place on the microwave turntable or bottom plates right when in doubt scientific method canes one of your variables examined. The results in the hard thing for all of us is to change one thing at a time yes we all have changed three things and then you can't figure out what happened Morgan. This is a great report to us. Let us know what happened. Thank you question I'll tweet at you us with the coast great Internet's yes science rules with science rules is brought to you by door dash. It's dinnertime but your stomach is rumbling and you still don't know what you're going to eat tonight. Sound familiar with door dash. You don't need to get up from the couch to get food on on the table. Jordache connects you to your favorite restaurants in your city ordering his easy. Just use the door DASH APP to choose what you want to eat from over three hundred ten thousand amazing restaurants and a Dasher will bring it to you anywhere you. You are Jordache connects you door to door delivery and over three thousand three hundred cities all fifty states and Canada order from your local. 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How can you learn to like a food that you don't like in the short answer that sensory scientists will tell you is <hes> exposure to start off by exposing yourself in small amounts? We actually did an episode of the sport full recently about picky eaters called in defensive picky eaters. We got a lot of the science and picky eating one of the things I alert can take someone thirty or forty tastes of food before they acquire a liking for it and so I think most what's happening in this case is just like the first thirty times you try to you didn't really like it but then finally it's in small doses and ends up in a few things visit you eat by accident or at a friend's house and then finally you know your eyes are open to it. I've acquired a taste for a lot of foods in my thirties and forties that I never liked when I was a kid now when you're when you're a kid and you're being picky eater right. Are you doing that because you really don't like it or is it a wave for you to embrace that two year old discovery that you can say no certainly that's part of that's definitely part of it the most common ages for picky eating around age three to six but there's also. Oh good evolutionary argument to explain why kids might be maybe natural normal for little kids to be picky eaters. Go back to a cave person days and we were wandering through the forest. You know the three year old who put any berry in their mouth without knowing what the heck they were eating was not likely to live long enough to reproduce whereas the kids who were naturally suspicious of new foods and only eight the foods that they were comfortable with that they knew they really liked or the ones who are more likely to survive so I think that so I'm out of skepticism of new foods makes evolutionary sense and you see evolution without evolution biology. Just doesn't make any sense but I also think from just from like a like a social cultural point of view imagine you know kids experience what they're you know their parents and they're serving media social circle eats that defines what's familiar and there's a common thing that foods from other cultures seem strange for the kind of evoke a yuck factor but again that makes sense. If you think about how you get socialized that you're you're used to your immediate family your immediate clan they defined normal. They define your world and then as you start traveling you get acclimated to other cultures and other groups. Their foods also become more familiar to you so I think there's a I think there's a certain natural thing there as well as your social world gets bigger your your culinary world or your palate gets bigger as well so also. There's commonality culture culture. Is this true. Didn't we have non. We have flat bread. We have pizza. We have Somoza. We have certainly there are some universals some basic ingredients that are all that are many many parts of the world but there are also big differences but one of the things that I think so interesting is watching your as when a new newer immigrant group who comes to America and brings their food culture with them often that food is that I viewed with some amount of suspicion as are those people and then over time as the people assimilate so to do the foods and and they become quote unquote less threatening over time you look at look at Sushi. I mean you look at Sushi in the nineteen sixties. When Japanese food was first taking root in America most American thought that the idea of eating raw fish was totally bizarre aren't strange and and foreign and and created Groupie A- and now we're eating it up you know by the handful we've acquired a taste for it and we've learned that it's amazing and delicious <hes> you look at the number of spicy foods foods the we eat now that are not part of a typical western European diet look at all the snack foods that are spicy flavor is now the spicy doritos the spicy chips that are everywhere look Saracho? This is the influence of of newer immigrant groups that tend to have spicier foods and it's making and so all of us are as a country we are pallets are being opened up to two more new flavors well so here's a question does that flow go the other way. If you eat more adventurously. Do you think that opens up your cultural perspective and other ways. Does that make you more open to other kinds of people. It certainly would intuitively that would be testable hypothesis. I don't want to speak on behalf of of other groups but but this isn't that we've talked about on the sports. I and I think the short answer is food can be a good entry an entry point two other cultures but you know but it shouldn't be but simply eating another cultures food doesn't suddenly make you an expert in it <hes> and I it's only only can be the beginning of more exploration but to beginning right. That's writing absolutely on another note. I was in Italy in October a few years ago and I get it. Everything comes ripe at the same time the wheat the tomatoes the olives the lemons every we gotta deal with this man we are we going to do okay. We're GONNA we're going to drop. We're GONNA make noodles. We're going to put the tomatoes and cans this is what we'll put the olives in Kansas good fine and I see where <hes> that culture emerges and so fish the type of fishy wheat in Sushi depends on the season or it used to depend on the season food brings people together as you point out absolutely absolutely have you tried preserved lemons. Yeah I think that I've been getting into Oh my God like like take a lemon slice headquarters without totally severing his rub a bunch of salt on the insides and then smush new Russian that's Muslim down into a jar and solutions much to get the juice out so that there are submerged in the liquid submerged in lemon juice that's right and then just let them sit on your counter owner for as long as you want and the Ryan's will become soft and edible and they develop a deep sort of fermented <hes> savory nece that is so satisfying after about eight months or a year I finally put mine in the Fridge and now let's take like a tiny tiny sliver of it and chop it up in blended into something in that one tiny sliver ed so much flavor. It's then I think you're okay Dan. I think I might be old enough now that I'm ready to try that thank you well said so do Juliette thank you so much. I actually have to ask one question. Do you have children as part of why you ask this question well I have. I'm a gold. It's a restrictor so I have like twenty five hundred here and <hes> there's I noticed there's a big in shifts between like elementary aged kids in middle school age kids with what they want to eat. <hes> you know the middle school kids are all after the <hes> thus spicy the buffalo the Suraj. I know you know an highschool h kids so <hes> in personally I do have kids myself but <hes> yeah there seems to be a giant shift when in the teenage years early teams where they will be more adventurous and I was wondering if there was a physiological theological like if tastes beds were diminishing or you know like super tastebuds where <hes> following away or or something like that but <hes> I don't know also could be peer pressure. Somebody sees somebody eat something spicy so they give it a where all you guys then you have an Julie do eat really spicy food like chemically thermal chemically hot food and personally moderately space because I know people that were you go to five stars man. Yeah that's annoying. Spicy food should not be like feats of strength. It's not a taste it's not a test of your manhood or person who to withstand more spicy food like people should eat when they like <hes> okay Julie. I would say also WANNA add first of all feeding twenty five hundred students. Oh my God like thank you for your service. That sounds like the hardest job but I think that I have seen a little bit of research suggests that that younger kids are more tend to gravitate more towards sugar and that as you enter puberty and your teen years you tend to move away from sugar that sort of a quick cheap energy fix that you gravitate towards a little kid and so I I do feel that way. This is anecdotal but I do certainly that was my experience like when you're a little kid you think of ice cream candy but like I don't remember my teen years being filled with sweets in the same way to a great question. You spent a lot of conversation here. Thank you thank you. Let's see we have question here Evan. You're on the air. What is your question? Is the celery juice crave bad or fact. It's GonNa be a fad at celery with salt. Oh yes celery with peanut butter and for some of US have a certain culture <hes> Dr Brown's celery tonic is delicious salary tonic. There is called celery salt which I think the celery part of that I don't know I don't know who has are actually tasted the celery celery salt but we did an episode of the sport full about the history of celery and and it turns out the celery this is second go around as a trendy vegetable back in the late eighteen in early nineteen hundred celery was like iffy avocado toast the Kale of its time rich Victorian people in the upper east side of Manhattan would have celery vases they would display their celery proudly and Kalamazoo Michigan was known as Celery City. It was like the the hottest craze and so will all things older new again so celery Ju- if you like the taste of it enjoy it okay so I think the the upshot is yes. It's a fad but yes it's delicious if they asked too much money for it be skeptical and what's an extra trendy Dan. What's the next food trend the next food? Will what what's what's a vegetable Cao's now. He has probably on its way out. Hillary is just coming up. What's a vegetable that like is really and also ran right now Aruba? I think we've improved the that's done. I think iceberg lettuce I love iceberg. Gun Sans raised on bring on the iceberg icebergs GonNa make prediction. That's it okay thank you so much. Remain Mega comeback remain is making a comeback isn't it as a holder holster of a frou frou frou frou hors d'oeuvres yes so how do you feel bill when you get salad served to. Let's say it's a Caesar Salad and they give you all the long stocks of Romaine piled up like a pile of firewood almost <hes> you can't fork one of those pieces of lettuce and get them into your mouth. You have to use a knife so people can so to speak briefly please. If you have a chopstick where are you. You're nowhere people you need chopsticks. If you have a fork you can get started but the other side is the knife. The knife is the pusher not only is it not only is that the slicer it is the backstop for working people. I tell the young people by young people were twelve thirteen fourteen years old. I explained this fundamental thing. I think there's the guy what's his name archimedes. He's five eleven long enough and a place to stand <hes> I can move there without the place to stand you ain't move and no planet. It's not happening so when you're presented with the fire would pile of Romaine embraced the knife cut push poke enjoy and thank you for your if you wait long enough every single food will come back as a fad the love you matt. I'm Bill Nye in I've been joined by Korea's Powell and today's guest has been none other than Dan Passionate from the sport full podcast download and subscribe to it. 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Episode 832: Eugene Cho

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Episode 832: Eugene Cho

"This is relevant. It's Tuesday October Twentieth Two Thousand Twenty and it's the relative podcast here in Orlando I'm your host Cameron Strang and joining me from lovely in Virginia. Jesse. Kerry low low from Austin Texas author podcast Jamie Ivy Hey guys from Nashville Tennessee artist producer mogul Derek Minor. Did. You say some did he say something? Throws. What's going on in the video? It didn't show I doubt. It was. Though. Like I think it's a real. That'd be a really good. Idea for like if you WANNA know if you're on him because we've all been on these calls right where there you got. You know when I watched red zone and really goes for on Sundays. Then they pull up the OCTO box where it's eight different like we've all been the OCTO box. Pinto box right now we have five, but everyone's been down there and so like George Costanza thing on Seinfeld. If he was in a big meeting like that in person, he would leave his briefcase behind on on quote unquote. And leave a tape recorder in their rolling. So when he left the meeting, he come back ten minutes later like forget my briefcase and he would re listen to the running tapes to see if people talk bad about him. Whole thing gives me an idea for like a way to do this and the Digital Zoom era like your big meeting things are getting heated and you're like, I wonder what people say if I was an on right now, you literally just like this. As you freeze yourself and. You know that dumb. He's Like You can't even get. He didn't get a good Internet connection. Paying with much less. Did you hear that comment and all and you're just frozen. You know you're just freezing your body. It's the perfect. It's the perfect thing I would have to try that. In Zoom, meeting the two thousand, twenty equivalent of the people who leave their voicemail hello. Hello Oh sorry I'm not here. Yet so good. Hey before i. Before. Derek. or You WanNa, just do this. Derek. Student right now and I. Honestly. On just. Talked about it. I. Looked out and I honestly almost like I even though this is. Good. That was Derek I almost like the Clark right now like, Hey, dude, seriously, we do need to look at Derek's connection. Talk badly about. Hey. I know we're already talking about neo waste each people on Zoom. One of the thing I want to ask you guys about is is You know Halloween's coming up and we talk about costumes and. Feedback today. So stay tuned because I can't wait a question of the week feedback. We asked you last Tuesday show. For creative timely? Twenty twenty costume ideas and so that you guys hit us up some great ones coming up at the end of the show. So I got say about Halloween Week and a half away or so at this point so well, no because I remember when I was. Like. At, the age for at Halloween where you're that awkward age where you're a little too old to be trick or treating anymore. Right. But you're not old enough to go to like the High School Halloween Party says awkward couple years. tween years. How how old? Yeah. yeah I would say yeah twelve thirteen yeah, twelve ish like you know I, it's just too weird to be Katrina feel too old for it but like I, said, you're in high school you're not going with the big high school Halloween parties and so I remember one year and I'll tell you why I'm telling this story man I remember when you're me and my buddy from Dallas Street we're in that same boat all our friends were kind of you know. We just felt weird about trick or treat anymore. So we decided like, Hey, let's let's just hang out and and Wolf scare some punk younger kids for an will catch them red handed. It was basically like a chrysanthemum dateline situation. We had a candy we're looking for candy. Thieves. You like you leave the bowl. So so we left. The plan was this all the candy in one a candy. On share on the porch and says, take to please. Okay. And literally, they know we're right inside the window in a dark room like looking out and idea is essentially was punk kid comes in dumps all bag we come storing out. We talked you shame shame. Give them the scare of. Goes from to scare straight situation. Okay. Have you seen? Have you seen the scared straight ones where not not actual but like we're Halloween, bowl out. And they have this like Zombie on Jake. And the kid does exactly what you said takes too much and the ambiance actually the homeowner and jumps out and scares the kid to death. Have you seen the youtube videos were like you know when someone would never be spared? Remind fight you do different things mainly you punch. The homeowner gets knocked out. So. Funny. So we we get and we're like man, this is so fomer catch these punks. The. Literally, the first person that walks up as a little kid and like a star wars costume in a full grown dad with him and he's wearing a cow costume like chick-fil-a cow, Casa. Kid Reaches Up, grabs, candy puts it in his bag the the the WHO I'm assuming is the father looks around in his cow costume and he grabs a whole bowl and dumps in the back and he's a grand massive grown man in cal- cost. There's no way. Out Our whole. You're still matt and we felt like we had no recourse. Okay. I do you know what we did we wrote a letter to the local paper and the headline was utterly disgusted. I ally. Derek. Three year old woman. You're alive. Clippings I. Can Promise. You the media back when he was eleven. They they didn't publish it but I do if I were to contact my buddy who uses it down the street from me who I haven't spoken to probably twenty. Twenty years at least he would confirm this store. Finest Look, this is a dilemma. We're all going to have like a week because arena opened the door for the sugar traders. We all outdoor ball situations, how it's GonNa work. Two things number one I heard someone recently say they were gonNA put up hunter. Candy on like skewers. K.. Are you with me like guy. All in their yards is so. Grab. One Weird right just just wander on my front yard full spikes in the dark. Signing they're. Awful I know right and then our neighborhoods tonight, an email that we could stand at the driveway of way with the ball and the kids can just walk by pick it up. But why the spikes why? Why not just throw I might just get a couple of big jumbo bags and just dump them all over the yard like each. Shot. And My. And just fill it with candy and just like walk around the yard. Heard Open, all the nerd packs and and you're in your. Spreader xactly. It's difficult. You could just. Like a small table, put a little ball but some candy and just leave it out there for. SANITIZER next. To. Ties Irs Sandy. What we need is don't WanNa do hey. Movies about those movies where they're like on a on a spaceship and they gotta do some X. Experiment and there's like a glass thing and they put their hands do gloves and they work on the other side of the wall like the the alien. We see those on our front door like I'll door I WANNA little window to speak out and I want I want gloves on the outside from the inside. I could just share my hand and I can see trick or treat here. You know I live in mid century house original front doors I got a mail slot. My old house didn't have a mail slot. I could just have a long stick stick it out the mail slot and put a little snickers on the and. Drop it off the pincher thing I can do the pinch thing. As to go. All over your yard. Kid. I really liked the idea of a small table with a pumpkin shaped bowl and handy inside of it. You just leave it outside the door or you see what was going to my old neighbor left all their lights off the not enough to leave all your lights off. We don't. We don't celebrate Halloween? I'm just GONNA leave the port stark. No, they put a note on their front door basically telling you why they don't celebrate Halloween. Christians of class basically, you're in the wrong even trying to get candy from them. There's. Like that. Just, go to bed. Just go to bed it was very passive aggressive. My old neighborhood had had several houses that were lights off notes on the door. Judgmental. No. But my new neighborhood is all biden signs. So I think celebrating. This Halloween. So we'll see. You live in a witch's covered around. This year's going to be interesting I think Derek the. Man I think it's like St streetside small folding table, some decorations Bozo separation between you and the. Neighbors a smart. All right. Well, we have a great show in store few today coming up later we talk to. Udine. Who the new president of bread for the World Longtime Pastor and social justice leader from Seattle Eugene's one of our heroes I mean if you've been reading relevant or last ten years, we've had conversations with them. Countless times we love Eugene. Some, this talk about not only just what he's doing now with bread for the world and all that. But hello more timely conversation how Christians can stop being such a jerk online. He he's one of my favorite people right now, Cameron. He was on your podcast he was recently and then just yesterday he was on again. So yeah. There you go. Everybody if you listen to Jamie's podcast now you're triple dip. You're going to be this. Audiences. Out there. All right. Up, next Her. Junior. One. Looks so. You're listening to Anderson pack the song is Jules. Today show is brought to you by Samaritan ministries. Let's be honest talking about health insurance as not something anyone really likes to do. 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It's time for. Jesse. All right. I have a two for both are relatively quick. The first is licensed. Jingle is what James is going to do with candy for all the children she's in the. Yard. Through the. Whole love me when they home all the sticks. Bikes for the candy, but I have a tremendous amount of knives and so. Candy in the art. Figure it out kids. Worry About Razor Blades in the candy large kitchen. addition. To leave a bowl. Isn't getting candy solid from the one. Homeowner has which is the front yard. Nice. House. General. Okay. So one. To the first one is a there's a company called Omni calculator and they make they basically make the calculators that. You can. Punch in different factors in your lifestyle and we'll come up with a solution for things like exercise or sleep and things like that. Well, they have one that is a kill your dead time calculator because it will tell you how many podcasts you can listen to over the course of a week a month and a year based on your day to day schedule. So you go into this you can go I'm you calculator dot com and look for the podcast calculator but you type numbers of like what's your daily commute how much you spend doing daily chores? Exercising or kind of other activities you can. Do along with listening to podcasts average podcast linked. How concentrated you have to be on that podcast so like if you're doing tasks that require some, it'll it'll take down. You're listening efficiency a little bit. So that shaves off your hours a day of the year. But anyway, that's a big thing for me. Just a you listen to podcasts like all day I don't know how you do that. If I. IF I'm working with words, which is my life. Yeah. I can't listen to words I can't even. So I listen to music while I'm working with words and then when I'm not working with words, I don't really WanNa hear words I. Don't listen to a lot of podcasts. Traveling. Then I listened to more podcast than I did my calculations like I listen to more podcast calculator, Mahatma getting them all in but. I listen to more podcasts than I can talk physical activity yard you work out I do listen Jesse s speed and a half. Now now I mean, I'm only I speed and a half I only listened to speed and a half if I'm doing it for like if like, let's say we were doing a segment for the show you know and You know we've done goofy segments in the past you know and we'll have an interview how music. If I'm doing it for that reason to like give producer notes I listened to it accelerated. But if I'm listening like recreationally like if I'm on Iran or something, I always listen normal time. And intended. Yeah. Not Out of principle just I just enjoy it better like that. why OJ Jamie? Why do you do it just to see you can get through more contact you listen to more show consume more. I can still take it might break and still work with it like my husband will get in the car, and if I have a podcasting on, he literally like this hurts my head I can't listen to what you do listen mainly thought provoking content or do you listen to funny stuff because to me comedy or like Y'all's banter at the beginning of our show would be. Terrible at speed and a half because you miss the timing. I duNNo. I can do it. My brain can adjusted I. Listen to every show at speed and a half. Of Credit was it weird when you have a normal conversation and the person? Slow. Show, sounds. Have you ever on spotify you can actually lower the listening time. Like drunk people. which, golden potion. I it will. Affect your interviewing on your conversations on your show of somebody's talking normally to you. Do you want them mentally? Are you thinking like you talk faster like us? No but I I think I'm fast talker and so but I don't ever listen to my own show. So it's not like I'm I think people might struggle listening to might because I think I talk fast. No you don't listen to your podcast. Every once in a while but not like, Derek, you listen to your music don't you push show? Yeah. But I'm always like go back and listen to the relevant podcast I do oh I only will. If it's like I, need to talk about it and I forgot what we talked about because I record way ahead I'm almost done for the year. Well. For for me show comes out. I, literally am like now what did we talk about for for me? The reason why I listen this is honest truth like I we would do the magazine that was so intensive and such hard work and it took months to issue like I didn't look at it again once I went to the printer I was done I mean I like we're on to the next one but this show to me, it's our relationship. So I get to relive this is fun and I enjoy it and to I'm listening though like if I'm not engaged or if I'm not interested in what we're doing the listeners probably on either. Time to hit reset like we need to shake it up right and so that to me just thinking about how to keep the show fresh like man if I'm enjoying if I'm WANNA, listen to it. If I'm laughing along I don't find myself fast forwarding or getting bored then we're good. But if I do hit Clark up and be like man, we need to do a Game. Next week or something because we gotta shake it up, know I mean listen for two reasons so yeah. Alison back until like I'm releasing a show soon where the contents a little heavy and could be controversial. So I've listened to it twice already just to be like, okay this is this. Okay. Just what I went out there. So yeah, sometimes I'll listen back like that. Derek Derek let me ask you this is real. This is an conceited or anything like that. Like do you listen to your music? Like recreationally like you put it on because you like it like you proud of it or do you listen to it critically about your art and how you want to evolve moving forward I, listen to music critically. That's the. That's the thing about being art her living. Yes. I. I can't even go to a live show. Without judging Yeah it is. But. I do listen also recreationally to lie after useless after come out for a while. and. Then I've known for I gotta go back and and it's kind of like nostalgia because every album kind of has a season of life wrapped in it to. Like when I go back to list the certain albums, it kind of reminds me of this would seize life was that and all that so yet. But Yeah I. Mean I'm my favorite rapper by knowckout. Yeah. He's GonNa. Put that as a as an endorsement blurb on your next album cover. My favorite rap. Most artists favor arts they won't most artists won't tell you that. But most artists are their favorite artists but that makes sense I mean that's why they making music or whatever there of course. They believe in it but something out there. That's really good. Yeah. So you could tell when artist is not his favorite artist because he's making awful music. Yeah. Like yourself that much. Well. So so on this as if. People want to calculate how much time they could be listening to more incredible podcasting. Check out the podcast calendar. I got one more quick slice for my for There's another business in Louis Louisville. They do something there too big deal evidently drowns thousands people a year to this thing called the danger Iran and it's basically new get instructions and clues, and they kind of send you around town on a scavenger hunt through kind of haunted places. So it's sort of like escape broom meets Scavenger Hunt meets haunted house tour well. Serving Louisville. This is a bunch of white people. Graphics of of of danger run customers, but because I think a danger run in. Louisville. is a little different now of what Hurrell they Would they basically figure out a way they're still going to do it, but it's going to be hall for Covid reasons all car based and so you. So basically, you can sign up to do this and you go and you download the danger run APP and it tells you where to drive around town what clues to look out for, and you get all without getting out of your car either V very solution oriented. This would be a person who has spikes of candy all throughout the yard. People see a problem they see an opportunity so you could do a car based scavenger hunt because all the the well I, say, all the haunted houses in hell houses at churches are probably shut down this year. Some churches are probably doing Hell Halcion Search literally someone dressed up as a demon screams directly into your face, and it's even more scary because they're not wearing a mask. So. The hundred houses down here we've universal studios and stuff and they do Halloween nights mean it's a huge deal with like they take over the whole park, do these massive haunted houses and this year obviously, they're not doing it, and then they decided at the last minute like couple. So they did a couple of hundred houses last weekend. It's just like. What like like who who who thought that was an okay idea. Anyway. But people went yeah. Of course they went because people are stupid. So. I don't like Hana houses. So I'm it cove it or not I'm not going to haunted house in my life. I'm with you. I don't like the dark arts stuff. I. Don't like the oppressive stuff and I watched a horror movie ever in my life I just like why but. The thing I've gone a couple times with friends. That I don't have that gene where when you're scared you jump I don't have that reflects like that. Yeah. Nothing like look at you. Slowly like so they would always put me in the front of our line as we go through the haunted house and then when people would jump out at us like I'm not reacting at all just look at the actor like okay and then you know my friends are like screaming and crying and all this was like this is boring like why are we doing here? I'm out here this may be team. I but listen all the Women Will Understand I've straight pee my pants in a second people jump out and scare me time for that no. I'm out. Get you can't tell you know. Don't scare me. What are you are you? Are you even a scary movie? I grew up in a pentecostal household. I know how this works. I don't know how this works guys. So no open the door. To door, for the spirit Spirit. To your kids is bad. That's why they. Please why you? GotTa. Put Him. I will say nothing's been more liberating has. has won a grownup who also grew up in relatively charismatic religious environment. Nothing is more liberating than coming to conclusions by reading the Bible yourself because like I would hear all this stuff like, Hey, look we're not against meditation. But when you clear your head of everything, you don't know what's going to come in and it's like. Chevy that I where Clear there's like real estate in my head and if I clear it, something's GonNa. Sneak. In I forgot reading that way and the Bible says meditate on the Law Day and. Safety with like. Scary movies like inviting. Not Literally. Inviting the girl from the ring through. Watching a story about her on a different TV. Thanks Buddy. Derek. Yeah. I was GONNA say about. Let's just pivot because. Do you watch scary movies Jesse? Not Re-. I don't watch a lot of horror movies I, watch him if like people are hanging, want to watch them. But I do watch a lot of like creepy style like I love like unsolved mysteries. Thrillers. Like stuff that. There's a degree of mystery to I. You don't understand like I don't watch a lot of stuff that's very like gory and not because again, I I have some more opposition. Yeah I mean I don't. It doesn't I don't really think about it. You know what I mean but I will watch something that is creepy and unsettling if I feel like there's a degree of injury mystery to it, I think the closest thing to a horror movie I've ever seen is like an m night on movie like. Our movie. I know but like I i. just have no interest in it like number one the spirit Rome is real. Ones I go like a colt direction on a plane with our payment to me and the ones that are just like gory or you're running from a murderer. I don't I don't enjoy this. I want to see you this. There's nothing. For me. Upstairs in our game room, the other night watched us. Just. US different I tell you. I take the Jordan pill different. Yeah I haven't seen that but I I've seen get out and that I was like that from freaky Freaky freaky to me. Well, the other thing that's interesting is like what is I say arguably, this is an anecdotal according to like box office receipts compared to budget the the most successful horror franchises. It's actually one of the most successful franchises period in recent decades has been the conjuring films and their spin offs like Annabel and the nuns. We've covered them and the two brothers who wrote them all are Christians exactly and been. I've been on a trip with them and they are the most. Malibu. Happy Brothers love the Lord like the. Pink Button, down shirt, and this. Who are y'all, and where did that constant comforts? His another one Scott Dixon, who did XS Emily Rose House right Christian now here's the thing. It's funny I did not know that about the conjuring and the directors being Christians but that's the only scary movie that I've watched in recent years. I was on a plane it was to like. The middle of Nowhere Odyssey anything on Delta that it just like let me see what this conference on what I watch that but in the conjuring and the emily rose aren't they kind of based on a true story that hey, this actually happens in the spirit realm. So these Christian guys can write it from an almost factual perspective of like this. Is it just? Hollywood make believe. This is like this happened in demons really do this and extra systems really are like this, and here's what's the kicker about it because I thought about it like my expectation of the conjuring was that was just GonNa be gory and guts and all that. It wasn't actually that it really was mostly destroy a of a priest losing losing her faith. And being called to do something and having to actually do that and I I remember this one line de What it appraised debris says he says, are you people? Are you people a family of faith and they like? No he says, well, if I were you, I'd get to plan like, Ooh, like ours like. 'cause he was telling them like there's you're not going to get rid at this by any power other than God and I remember seeing like, wow, that's pretty bold for a horror that yeah well s crazy. The other thing too is I feel that at least a horror genre does it's okay. So you know the line from the famous line and usual suspects where Kevin Spacey. Trying to trek up police detective into you know basically tricking him to see if this kind of evil figure Kaiser. So say this kind of personal legend Israel or not, and he says the greatest trick the devil overplayed was to convince people he didn't exist because as soon as you believe in the dark side, the own, there's only one logical conclusion that there's also a good side. So so in other words like if if you Could kind of go too far down a path and and and having what you think are real spiritual experiences with supernatural. Then the you're only one conclusion left that means it's real and to Derek Point I better start praying to the right side. You know like I it because if I'm if I'm dabbling in the in in in kind of darkness, you know if I know that's real, then there's gotta be there's gotTa be other reality. Thing for me is like you know the scripture. Think on the things that are good and pure and true and I just don't want to focus on that side. I'd rather focus on the good impure and true as I don't want an just that and kind of have that weighing on me, I, feel that oppression spiritual kinda of weight with that stuff and I just don't I don't want that I know it's real. I've seen it I've I believe scripture you know like group of Charismatic Church I've seen divas cast out but like it's not something that I want to focus on, you know what I mean so anyway. I'm. A I'm pass on this dog. Does he did you bring your slice we were just talking about more. Yeah. Yeah. The scavenger hunt. Calculator. Yeah we gotta move along what do you have Jamie? Okay. So we have talked recently about Remember we talked about the Amazon thing, the bringing packages to your house, and then we talked about drew. Talked about the video in your house, it can. I ask it fly around and stuff. So there's all this conversation about like robots, how they enhance our life, but then they can feel scary but I got a good one for you guys today actually just this week the La Fire Department unveiled the country's first ready robotic firefighting device, and so this is a robot that is a firefighting vehicle, right? So you know there's a lot of challenges with firefighting my brother used to be a force firefighter. So I'm always drawn to stories like this, but this is called the termite are S. three. It has the ability to put out twenty, five hundred gallons of water per minute. Wow I don't know how much a regular a man holding a hosing. That much. Well they're telling, US says a lot. So it's a lot. But so it also has high definition video feedback. So it can get into difficult conditions. Basically, this is a really cool thing because there's a lot of dangerous things obviously this. Today. Because it's it's built to not melt but metal melts plastic melts wires melt. Cameron I don't know why does now. No. The article. That don't melt leave. Off. Jimmy. Together have literally built a heat shield one tax. Project with. Cleaners. Off. We know how to make a heat shield and Yeah. So so okay. Probably has a heat shield on. It is all insane because I don't think that you know they're going to unveil the very first one, and then have that melt on its first firefighting expedition but it was just introduced this week actually but then they put it on a fire, a commercial structure and it proved its value from the start. So this is a good thing right here it's going to help keep firefighters safe because it can go in where other where firefighters would be danger. So people were scared about the robotic Revolution House GonNa, Change, our economy, and how automation robots will be taking jobs and all that stuff but when it comes to jobs that. Humans. Are Dangerous and stuff like give them to the robots. That'd be great. An army of robot firefighters love it and I just want to say one thing Cameron I made these second-best Heat Shield at space camp just some nerd macgyver on another team learned. Grammar. Ob. Sorry. Professor, I didn't know this was. An engineering task. We may the second best one and I stand by that is true. Derek you I somewhat of a twofer but is really not the very, very closely related but so. Covet cases are going up and people think because of smog gatherings and we got the holiday season is upon us. You know, Christmas, Thanksgiving Halloween etc etc. so the CDC has put out as guidelines and one of the things I thought that was extremely hilarious was maybe you should have your Thanksgiving dinner outside with your family and friends I'm like. In Michigan. Thank. You did outside is bad. Cheese not patsy said that he's his adult daughters are not coming to Thanksgiving dinner. They're gonNA zoom now he's just dinner with his wife and maybe Neighbor next door neighbor that comes over regularly. That's Ed. What's what's a sad especially this time because this is big family time some people only see their family like family wants a years because I get the one week off for Christmas or Thanksgiving. So it's really gonNA be Kinda sad but to light and you guys mood. As I was on this trail. I found out that there's some very. Very. I don't know if they're smart. I. Guess. Every Entrepreneurial Brigham Young Students. who have been intentionally giving themselves covet this can't be true. Derek reason they're giving themselves covet why would you guess first off? College. Student. What would be your guests of why you would intentionally Gig Kobe. Class. To I think Brigham young that means are Mormons. So the missionary age stuff like that. They're getting it then they can overcome it build up immunities, and then give their blood or plasma to other people who have had. Wrote Hugh De Audit. They are straight giving themselves, cove it, but it's not for the honorable reason. You say it's just purely for money. Nate. was. In College I. Listen to either. College I was broke. It was Rama Noodles Day but there was nothing in me that say somebody GonNa get Swipe I go these plaza. Hey I so plasma wants. To go into like a thing they you know when you're desperate in you know guys I wish I could show you my scar. It looks like I used to be a drug user and if you did that's okay like Jesus can take care of all of us but it looks like I used to be drug user because Jesse I didn't sell plasma one time I was a active plasma seller. Your part time job was so I'm not saying this is when I was in college I was the mom to two children. So let me tell you I would go to the plasma place. They had a little daycare. I would lay down on the table. They'd give me a blanket I would read a book and someone to watch my children. I would lay there for an hour and I walk out with thirty five dollars and I said, this is the best. Chicken. To read a book and have them watch my kids go Juice and cookies to. Yes Santa Snack. Three dollars, four orioles, and some orange juice. Ma Book. Demi Moore met listen I am dead serious. BASIC CARS OVER Card? Card Burger. Phone. You. Traceable totally untraceable by the way Jesse. Minton. But we went to a Christian college and they they recruited hard on our campus because. Kids who live in clean pretty much. We actually blood. Signs for like forty bucks. Get Forty Bucks. You'll do to make money and like nobody wanted part time job. So they would go down a couple times a week and give plasma. is a plasma. That was funny Oh. Wow. That's. Doing it because they're doing as mission hoping. Yeah. Please, stop doing it. Is I guess terrible flaws in your plan. Right stay tuned up next Eugene show joins us. Dan. You're listening to Maverick city music featuring Naomi rain song is never leave. It's off their brand new album they just dropped today show is brought to you by anchor. We get a lot of questions from people who wanNA start podcasts asking for tech and tips and tools if you haven't heard about anchor. LemMe tell you. It's the easiest way to make a podcast. Let me explain first of all, it's free. That's a big one. Anchor also has creation tools that allow you to record and edit your podcast right from your phone or computer. 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Know something that we've seen a lot to sort of justifies though really harsh language being used by Christians is this idea that we're in sort of a crisis moment and Desperate Times call for desperate measures how would you respond to that? This is not exclusively at Christian problem. We all noticed that there's a larger I think wave kool-aid. A larger see of toxicity of incivility. That has rampant in our larger culture and I think as Christians may be in our desire to be relevant in our desire to speak up to unite desire to contend for truth. I mean, those things have always been part of Christian identity like we should be contending for the truth who should be speaking up. And sometimes the idea that. Being Nice doesn't necessarily work and therefore we're going to engage in the practices of our larger culture. I think the other part is that you know when it's all said and while. Christians. Place Their identity in Christ were also really just depraved than full. mean-spirited people that are still working out through some issues and I have said to many occasions. With a lot of criticism that in my years a pastor leader, I've learned that the most difficult people to lead to Jesus are actually Christians because we can be so set on our ways and so when you read all of these statistics that come out every now and then by Barna or Research report about how Christian this nation is I mean we should probably there should be an asterisk to say it's probably Cultural Christianity. So tell me what you think happened here. How exactly did Christians get caught up in this broader trend towards extremely divisive rhetoric especially online you know I think the Internet hasn't helped in the toxicity and it's easy to blame the Internet for everything. But what I mean by that is the years by saying having the luxury of anonymity where you can say whatever you want without accountability after a while it has an impact on your soul. It's slowly degrades on you. Now there's no scientific crew for that, but we do know. In research that there has been increase in anonymity in trolling in the manner in which we engage things because of the luxury of anonymity. And now seems as if what used to be said behind anonymous. Are. Now being said in person or with your identity known, there's obviously that aspect but I also think we should acknowledge the fact that our society on the whole it runs on the currency of fear fear mongering and I'm not trying to demonize all media or all journalists because I actually think they're so important to any healthy democratic society but it's also business as a pastor of a little church for many many years. One of my frustrations have always been that the only time pastors get in the news. Is when there's like a crisis immoral failure or bad news and so that paints. And callers people's perception of Astor's clearly were not perfect but would not just all ninety eight percent walking drama power abuse I would tell people let's not join the frenzy fear mongering and dehumanizing in the vilifying. have any ideas for what we can do like some some of these conversations can be divisive. They're also very important to know about things like like racism inequality that we do need to have, and we don't want them to be divisive to any practical ideas for how we can do a better job because everything is politicized, I keep trying to remind people we have to first seek first the Kingdom of God and not the Kingdom of a political political party or politicians. So not get bogged down in trying to become as someone called me recently an operative of particular party you know so. I do have some. Concrete. Things that we should do and number one is this sometimes I think to myself. Saying or speaking to simply be about me or because I genuinely care not just about that topic but I care about that person. Out that makes sense because there is a possibility that we say do things for the sake of I WANNA make sure I'm saying the right thing that I'm just and and so forth, and it's not always about wanting. To benefit into love and to care for that person as a genuine commitment for that person, which is a reason why I think many of these conversations should really be done out of the context. Of Relationships. So somebody recently asked me. So do you have any advice during this election season how we should talk to our neighbors that we disagree with my answer is the fact that we're asking that question during the election season is the problem you having that conversation at the nature of our society right now it's not GonNa go So. Obviously were in it. So we gotta have it but I would just say after the election season whether your candidate of choice locally state nationally wins or loses my question is are you still committed to loving your neighbor? That might sound Kinda simple but I hope you can follow my heart on this to what extent does the Bible backup a political platform. For me the Bible Scriptures. See a logically personally I believe it to be the word of God. But I also WANNA be very honest in saying that there are still things about scripture. That's very confusing. If it's not I want my money back from seminary 'cause I invested a lot of money to go there to better understand scripture was a off Princeton, seminary? Little advertisement there for Princeton. So and we've had many churches and Christians have both contentious and robust conversations about Bible theology interpretation. I don't worship the Bible I worship Jesus. So I'm trying to assess the person hood that character the teachings, the very life essence of Jesus. And because the Kingdom of God that theology of the Kingdom of God, it's so prominent. In the New Testament I believe it's recorded in the Gospel. Sixty eight times in the gospels. Jesus teaching about the Kingdom got the Book of Acts He crucified risen comes back in the book of acts can't remember these specific reference shares how Jesus comes back and teaches the disciples about the Kingdom of God. And specifically, I think this kingdom theology is really important. I think one of the best ways for us to understand this kingdom theology is to acknowledge that the Kingdom of God isn't a nebulous kingdom. There is a king, his name is Jesus. And the sermon on the Mount and the beatitudes gives us a glimpse of the Kingdom ethics now. Does it give specific questions about governance about these things. I don't think. So stumm May this group I honestly with a can't say with integrity. Yes. It does does these three things we have a level of freedom. So I just think it's really important for us as Christians than. If our allegiance isn't to the Kingdom of a political party and if it's Jesus then let's make sure that it's based upon. Is, person. Heard his character, his integrity, surely his teachings and I focused every time I vote I spend time just reading the sermon on the mount before I vote and after I vote and I a shower afterwards and finally and I know this is a lot of us this year What would you say to people who just don't really WanNa vote who stole senior point me more. I think for a lot of folks if you're not an evangelist for either party, I think there's many of us that feel and here's the thing. This is not going to go away. As kingdom citizens were called to be good citizens here on earth recall to seek the peace of the city, and I think one way it's not the totality. One way that we can do this exercise, some of the rights and privileges of what it means to be good citizens here on this earth. The person WHO's given me? I. Think. A most sense to perspective on this and so many matters. Is. A theologian by the name of Gerhard Voss. Now, I feel like I'm really jess propping up Princeton but he was a princeton the. and. Gerhard votes he's actually the one who the phrase that a lot of Christians pastor us but I have no idea where it came from. He's the one that coined this phrase, the Kingdom. and. Not yet. So asked to suggest as Christians, we believe Jesus Lord Attune as empty he's risen, but the Kingdom of God, the reign of God hasn't fully come upon this earth. So. That's good news because that means we understand the illogically that Jesus still. Lord God is in control. The bad news is that means that we're living in a sense and estate tension. So I feel this all the time you feel this all the time like we understand we were supposed to have hope and we do have hope. But Man on any given week I'm going through a roller coaster of crestfallen this highs everything in between. And so when people talk about voting and if they don't feel satisfied or their distance or their dissatisfaction, they feel Yucky in some ways and I know that's not the most articulate word but I. it's because of the fact that as Christians. We believe in this kingdom here and not yet we have to just understand there's no perfect candidate. Why? Because that said person is not running for office right? If it was up to us, we would think were the perfect candidate, but I would still nevertheless encourage. Sisters and brothers. To exercise privilege, right and burden to vote I'm GonNa just do one more plug in. It's not a princeton. I want people to check out breads dot org slash Eugene, and it's just a way for people to learn more about the work that I'm doing right now in DC advocacy around policies and politics and spending a lot of time with Congress, people and Senators, and we're just here trying to advocate for those who are experiencing hunger. And Poverty in unfathomable scales right now, one out of every three American families are having a hard time putting food on the table. forty percent of black and Brown families about two hundred, seventy, million people around the world on the brink of starvation, and so we're urging our lawmakers to do the right moral courageous thing. So this is a really important time where these are getting lost. To hear debates. Take place and not have any thoughtful policy conversation about people who are struggling to put food on the table. To are on the brink of starvation around the world is obscene and aside, just want to urge. Christians. To remember in the frenzy of all of these things let's remember who we are who we worship, what we're about as Kim citizens. You didn't show make sure to check out his book now shall not be a jerk. Christians guy to engage in politics and all the work they do. Stay tuned up next. It's your feedback. Does come. After. Listening to Jaden Petering Justin, Bieber Song is falling for you. Okay. It's time for your feedback. So last week, the question of the week Jesse was talking about his family's predicament about what are they gonNA do as a full family costume situation this year there's nothing to pull from other than tiger king. So we wanted to crowd source it and we asked You for last week's question of the week for your best creative timely funny costume. You guys hit us up on twitter at relevant podcast. In the all semester, just on relevant magazines instagram page. Here's a few of our favorites. Well, this is from Evan Pen. He said where very badly sweatpants a stained t shirt a bathrobe slippers and have bedhead when people ask, what are you? You say don't ask it's not a costume but an accurate representation of twenty twenty the other it's like it reminds me of that boyfriend on Seinfeld that Elaine dated where. Where he had lost his job and just kind of is floating through life and he he likes wearing a sweatshirt with the big stain. She's like we're supposed to go. You got a big stain on your shirt. What is that? He's like from a meatball and she's like you already ate he's like it's from yesterday. It's like we're all in that boat now. Okay. All that guy. So that's a mind costume. Oh my Gosh Maury Atkinson Corona beer bottle. For Real. That's twenty twenty for a lot of people. Like. A wine. Yeah Jacob Jacob got that gallows humor that I enjoy Jacob. Beat Abok he says is a bit edgy but how about Herman? CAIN twitter ghost Jew. You, know what? I mean Hud Hud Secretary McCain former presidents, candidate died of cove after going to a trump rally a few months ago. But he's still tweeting. That's the craziest thing is the Herman Cain twitter account is bringing some hot takes including downplaying the seriousness of covert and this is the craziest thing. tweeting his team is tweeting. On his account, but they're doing like gop talking points including downplaying co vid from the account of the dude who died from covid? Yeah. Not Good Yeah there's like we need a publicist to step in. Common say yeah. Yeah I I think. With that political party, I don't think publicist. The top of their list if if. Yeah. If they have one, they are probably the worst person at their job at anybody's ever been batted anything. Really said the fly teams show up every debate I do like debate fly you know. Debate flying you could complicated. That's a complicated build though yeah. But it but if you if you're wearing a fly costume, right? If he just finding generic fly and then you know maybe like a rolling podium or something, you know aware of big white wig like a man's white wig and put a big old black blotch on it. Yeah. Yeah. You're just a very creepy ominous fly. Read Buck says, let's go the mask. The Mask Jim Carey, Carey, the mask I thought that was great. Honey Yeah. Underrated film and like Nascar really hot right now. Know. This right is rated at where it should be. I. Don't know maybe it's just because I was very impressionable at the time Jim. Carey went on his hot streak back in the day you know and I thought it was the funniest human alive. But I I would mind revisiting then and he's not he's not a good. Biden. On He's No now I just don't think he's captured that thing like an actual character actor yeah. Yeah. Sis. Jim Carey. Joshua's. Baker carry around your sour dough starter. Kit. Didn't undertake during Kobe but I know enough people who did where they'd be like Oh cool guy. You know. So many people were baking early on and Covatilla. Kinda gave that I will say this. Speaking to Derek slice earlier the one person, the one group that's about the best Thanksgiving ever is is Boston here's why because Bro Quick Round the board has anyone into a Boston market in the last five years I drew. Who's going through there at lunch me like, Oh, I, think I think a big hunk Turkey and stuffing in cranberry sauce on top of a giant role I. think that big gut bomb was the perfect way to start my. Like. But everyone's do in Boston market this year because it's like, oh no, it's coming over I'm not going to do all Turkey, we do you know. Three Boston market if you live in the south. Cracker barrel got together like cracker barrel for Thanksgiving I was skeptical and but one of my Hamis show me the spread I was like Dang. Okay. How might have to? Might have to buy this. If you can't Cook if you can't Cook in your house Thanksgiving celebration, just go to cracker barrel and everybody's GonNa think that you're the best cook. Ever Cook ever game. That's the game have to put it in your own dishes when you bring it home feel and pull it out of the oven. Put it most straight out the. Cold Derek? Pre sliced and the other. Chicken Fried Steak I didn't know you had a deep fried story that. All right. Well, there's a lot more that came from if you're looking for your own creative costume ideas, our twitter followers are full of them full of something. All right. This week's. High. A few minutes ago we were talking about uh creative ways to make some money as a college student that'd be in entrepreneurial Byu students are making some money cove prices jack a plasma value Learn that Jamie as a young mother. Participated to make blow make ends meet. Yeah the fun. Money. So, we want to know what's the most. 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Best of The Herd: 11/04/2019

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

43:47 min | 1 year ago

Best of The Herd: 11/04/2019

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Listen to fitness disrupted at Apple podcasts on the iheartradio APP or wherever you listen to podcasts thanks for listening to the best of heard podcast be sure to catch us live every weekday from twelve to three eastern nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio NFS one find your local station Asian for the hurt at Fox sports radio DOT COM streaming live every day on the iheartradio APP by searching heard is the best of the herd with Colin Cowherd on Fox Sports Radio Oh here we go into Monday what a Monday it is this live in Los Angeles is the heard wherever you may be however you may be listening we're on Iheartradio Fox sports radio and F s one one hour from now where Colin and was right where Colin was wrong Michael Vick who's GonNa have a great breakdown a Lamar Jackson obvious similarities though the fastest guys on the field and it says something the rest of the League doesn't do Mike Bit Coming up this hour joy Taylor is joining us what a crazy crazy the Sunday I'm there's a million storylines today there are an very hurts because every time you know I've known this my whole life I should not put anything any any faith in the browns and every time I do it I am reminded of my roots thank you Pittsburgh for that in your dolphins can't even tank right oh no I mean I ca I call that on Friday I told you and Jason McIntyre like Hands Down Dolphins GonNa win this game for sure did great let me start with this while Baltimore crushed New England if not for a couple of fumbles would have been far worse but let me say this about New England I didn't understand how New England won the Super Bowl last year I kept saying all last year they have no vertical passing threat GRONK old and injured Brady's just old they were twenty first in total defense they didn't have an elite pass rusher they were completely dependent on third down on Julian Edelman by the way they didn't even have home field advantage last year they had to go to Kansas into city I kept saying all year last year they don't look like a super bowl team and then they got to the super bowl against the young rams team and I said okay they'll win this year they look even lasts like a super bowl team bronx retired now brady's older they still have no vertical passing threat they still don't have an elite pass rusher they barely even acknowledged the tight end position their first round draft pick hasn't played ELEC DOC and they lost their left tackle and their center the two most important positions on the offensive line oh by bad that I say they're also on their third kicker of the year they were always good at bat now you can't rely on that but come January and Foxborough Baltimore in New England who you got I'll fly take New England listen they have one loss by the bye week last year they had three and Lamar Jackson has only beaten one time that's gotten a second look at him cruddy Cincinnati Ninety nine percent of the time here's how I look at New England. My is validate date a dynasty Serena Williams or tiger woods in their prime they just look stronger and more powerful the seventy steelers the the eighty nine hundred forty niners the Chicago Bulls with Michael Jordan Shack. Kobe Lakers Alabama football the Miami hurricanes for fifteen years in my eyes told me they're bigger stronger faster more powerful but with New England that's never the case it's like they're really good food on a bunch of stuff I can't see like offensive line coaching and situational football and trapping blocks and AH SHIFTING FROM A to deep two zero blitz and they've been fooling me for years they don't look like a dynasty should look like that's why I don't take much from last night yes nobody on this show thought New England was GONNA go undefeated we all oh new defensive stats were better than their defense although I do think their secondary phenomenal they played a bunch of crappy quarterbacks here's what I took cook from last night a lot of stuff from Baltimore last night wasn't about New England we know what New England is last night was about Baltimore it was about John Harbaugh being disrespected for years it was about the fact that Mark Ingram and Lamar Jackson are a pain to prepare for in the new NFL fell world where practice use pads one day a week good luck preparing for the best rushing offense by a mile in the league that Super Physical John John Harbaugh oh by the way he's now ten and two off is and because they're so structurally excellent some of their defensive issues as an offensive ish early have been solved because that's what good teams do last night was about Baltimore it wasn't about New England it was about Lamar Jackson and John Harbaugh and Mark Ingram saying hey we deserve to be in the Super Bowl conversation to know not not just in it we we can win it we went to Kansas City and beat bombs we dominated New England. Nobody's done that in ten games last night was about Baltimore saying Hang. Our coach is a top three coach our quarterbacks harder now to prepare for that an old brady our organization solved our cornerback issue as you are offensive line sluggishness early it wasn't about New England this last time was all about Baltimore and there were two stats that jumped out New England's defenses good their secondary is great but these two are super bowl winning stats four for four in the red zone against New England four appearances is four touchdowns couldn't say the last time that happened and thirty seven minutes time of possession and the NFL has always been about one thing and this says something we talk about on this show a lot but I don't hear it talked about an other shows what's your identity this matters for Fox sports it matters matters for IBM it matters for apple it matters for starbucks what's your identity is there any team in the NFL that has a stronger identity entity this morning then Baltimore's offense we run a lot well and score a bunch of points I mean half the teams in this league Cleveland's got the talent they don't know what the hell they are Baltimore and they did this very early Lamar Jackson you can argue they did it the day of the draft they said we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA get powerful we're going to support this kid and we're not gonNA force them to be what he's not we're going to use what he's great at and and develop what he can get better at and once again when it was all said and done I don't get a loud cocky Brash quarterback from Ohio L. I get a kid that says we're just starting here I feel like our team are capable of and we did that tonight to build off that we can't get on our horse live you know we just want us to because we did it just one season game we've got to continue to just to win just w over the world's greatest football team and his answer is game Game next week ago you get back in the weight room making the traps bigger did that in the off season my kind of quarterback Mike quarterback all right so let's talk now about Green Bay so New England lost ugly this is not college football it happens Green Bay lost ugly here's the difference though I have seen Green Bay lose twice this year it's not that they lost its how they lost Philadelphia and the chargers lined up and said we're going to push you all over the field and Green Bay had no answer k now maybe it's their young coach young coaches tend to not be the great adjustment coaches like veteran coaches Sean mcvay in the Super Bowl excellent coat didn't adjust very well sixty five year old Bill Bella checks great adjuster adjuster so as Pete Carroll so's Andy Reid John Harbaugh but I don't think it's that I think it's the fact that and I grew up watching Mohammed Ali and sugar ray Leonard as fighters fighters they were both pretty and they were both dancers and they're both fun they can knock you out they could knock you out Green Bay is fun their flashy and they're cool and their quarterbacks in commercials they don't want anything to do with tough guys ever watched one of those UFC fights heights one guys like it doesn't look like he wants to be in the octagon you ever watch a high school fight the bully picks on the little kid a little kid he's just looking for a teacher to come through the door and save him Green Bay is not beating the saints and they're not beating San Francisco forget about the other conference forget about if they had to match up with Baltimore Green Bay against Philadelphia and the chargers yesterday they they're a finesse football team and by the way this is my argument against Kansas Kansas City I love watching the chiefs I love watching the packers but at some point you have got to impose your will on people in this sport sport it's getting cold and windy and yesterday the packers looked like they just flew out to Hollywood had a good time eight at Nobu on Saturday night and then no showed on Sunday Sunday afternoon now Aaron Rodgers said this actually was the problem worse Romans Romans starting to listen to the chatter maybe a little too much so good thing for us go back on take this wasn't about being cocky this was about you got punched in the mouth and you wanted no part of being in the octagon you had no uh-huh interest being in that fight and I get it some guys are bigger and stronger but the saints and the forty niners or they can be fun and flashy to l Ron you do over Green Bay's offensive line mauled defensive line non factor once again their defense opportunistic not intimidating they didn't create a turnover with an old unathletic quarterback and below average offensive line it's not that you lose in the NFL everybody does except the seventy two dolphins it's how you lose no adjustments from the young coach and no interest being in that football game game nobu on Saturday night and no show on Sunday afternoon get tougher or get eliminated quickly in the NFC be sure to catch etched live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox sports radio F S One and the iheartradio APP one of the best aspects of butcher boxes how convenient it is a box of one hundred percent grass fed beef organic chicken heritage breed pork and more ship free right to your door it just doesn't get any the easier than that but Thanksgiving's around the corner and if you're hosting things can get stressful butcher box can now help this holiday season new customers get a free Turkey in their first box make the experience of your Thanksgiving meal even 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my tiny little brain loves structure and dependability. That's that's what I need and I through all of that out Friday 'cause they started scare a staring at NFL schedules and I went to Brown have an easier schedule schedule and Baltimore's gets hard and I said on the air seriously in a month Cleveland will be in First Place and Baltimore will be in second in place I am embarrassing I apologize I have told my staff to take off the archive it is my worst football take ever everything that matters to me I bailed on 'cause I couldn't get over the schedules and it's embarrassing and I and A and I as I'm sitting there last night watching Baltimore Win in Cleveland Implode I'm thinking timeout I forgot some very obvious things John Harbaugh is is excellent and Cleveland coach Freddie Kitchens is a bus boy at applebee's I forgot that Lamar Jackson his coach able and hard working and quiet and getting better he's even changed his body and Cleveland's quarterback is loud and cocky in thinks that's leadership I forgot that Baltimore the more historically is a step up organization two super bowls to for to they just wind big games they've never been intimidated by New England in Foxborough in Baltimore Cleveland History Chapter One we're imploding chapters two through nineteen read chapter one and I forgot all of it everything that matters honors to me I've talked about the big four in the NFL who's your owner hoosier gm who's your coach and who's your quarterback it is a clean sweep for Baltimore they've got a great owner and a smart GM and then he retired and they got another smart and they got a great coach who's head into buys and they found found this quarterback and made an immediate pivot into we're going to change the way we play football clean sweep and once again Cleveland is loud cocky young and not very smart totally on me if I was a stockbroker I would have told you Friday to buy Bitcoin it coin over starbucks to buy blockbuster over apple to buy Enron over IBM it's my worst football take ever I'm watching Cleveland income out in the biggest game of the year they're completely flat which is hard to explain. Ob Jan Jarvis Landry are more consumed with their shoes news according to stories and the game and Baker Mayfield Shave three times inside the stadium what are you doing what are you doing and again I know this is what I care about tool to a fault ad nauseam I can be repetitive and boring who's your owner who's your coach who's your front office office. Who's your quarterback I want a grownups that's why I refused to bail on Philadelphia why everybody bailed on the Eagles after the cowboy law sunset no they're structurally you too good let them get healthy I am not bailing on Philadelphia yet I was willing to bail on Baltimore my bad burn the tape erase it archive archive at do whatever you gotTa do Goulet my worst football take ever agreed to sleep I I'm an Paul dies to joy personally having to sit through Ooh that nonsense now again I am usually brilliant but for two minutes I was a dope and I apologize it's okay I went a little so far with predicting that the broncos would end up I over the ravens but there's no reason why the browns shouldn't have won that game so that game prediction wasn't off how can can you come out flat Brandon Allen and never taken the NFL snap move the ball down the field running game ado thing they wanted to in the first half what's happening I don't think anyone the short a catch live editions of the heard Weekdays at noon eastern nine am Pacific thirteen years in the NFL remarkable career of four time pro bowl or a now Lamar Jackson is embarking on breaking Mike Vix Records what do we make of that Mike Vick fighting the moves like Lamar Jackson to the set John The by the way is there are I remember when you came into the League I remember saying this it's not that Michael Vick is a running quarterback outside of Allen Rossum he's the fastest Falcon yeah it was yeah and so potentially da with the Angelo Hall in the mix too so with Lamar there's difference between you know he's a mobile double quarterback in Oh hell he may be the fastest player do you see a little of yourself in the Mar Yeah I do the Mas acceleration is is amazing when he takes soft when he puts his foot in the ground and he wants to make a guy miss and turn it up he's he's the best in the League the best I've ever seen since you know since myself yeah in doing that and that's a special talent to have and and it's something that he'll be able to do for a long long time and it's it's it's amazing what he's going to be able to do in just the circumstances the tough situations going opposing defenses in moving forward let let's talk about this Mike it's so important for a young players the two quarterbacks that are kicking butt that are young Jimmy Garoppolo and Lamar Jackson they got great coaches coach? Let's go back to your car I think and this is not a a shot at Jimmy G. and it's not a shot at Lamar but join our talking about this this morning if you taken join I in our first career broadcasting jobs and we had bad bosses I I can remember my first job I was very lucky I've had great bosses difference K. you went to Atlanta that team was not actually built for you go back and tell people but that's what you initially it was Kinda Pass apetit it was passed happy it was west coast wants Dan Reeves got five who I thought was great for my career early he was very a innovative and he took advantage of my skill set similar to what you see where Lamar and then Three years later I get Jim Jim Moore and and Greg Knapp West Coast System had to learn you know the INS and outs in how to how to go out and win a game running that system with all the rules news and and that was a lot of short make short passes and it wasn't a run oriented at at all if I had to take off and run it was because the play broke down or you know somebody with them protection and you know at the time I wasn't thinking Gee I need offense Senate around me to help me you know so K- I saw my talents it was just about done with the coaches asked me to do trying to do a well and trying to be the best that position yeah are you when you look at New England I don't want to you know listen New England's defense will be fine when you face Baltimore did you look at New England and say there don't if they faced Lamar Lamar again they can't solve this what did you see that New England could get better at improve at one of its just one of just problematic honestly When I watched the game yesterday I look at you know what New England did defensively and I looked at the Baltimore Ravens offense in identity identity which is you know they they own set of rules they own concepts they own identity office has been built around Lamar and it's going to be called whatever type office you WANNA call it nobody's running it nobody's running it you know like I said only identity own set of rules you know it's it's one package that fits Lamar skillset interested guys you know Ingram in John Brownie all sprinkled into the mix but I'm watching it saying okay I I see this game and it was different you know as far as what New England did what I thought they would do it makes them a Lotta zone I thought he would play more man and I'm like but this is a team that not are they gonna face depot for these things no there face down the right do you show your car's right now is it now that's interesting of a necessity to win his game what does it do for both teams hated to give away anybody's game plan where they'll see each other down the road it's very interesting because Baltimore is GonNa Win Their Division so as New England now out fans will say this Patriot fans this morning like wait I want to show our hand embellished check with ballot check wants to win the game but that's an interesting concept apt that do you think New England potentially went in and said we're gonNA try something yeah we're not gonna try everything is there does that exist in the NFL home I think it has to a certain degree because when you facing a guy like the Mar- you can't one game plan and say this is what we're GonNa do all game you know I think you gotTa have to go on with a couple different coverages and couple different looks and kind of toy around even though this is not the league to be toying around when you know you can be a little lenient as far as the game plan and I think they know they're gonNA have to deal with them for years on you know and at the end of the year at some point so why not try certain things see what works and you know you keep things in the game plan at work and try to build upon You Know Awesome Foundation that can contain quarterback like Lamar because right now it's almost impossible to do yeah let's let's punch on three things here all right let's start with Cleveland you know I don't WanNa pick on Freddie kitchens but he'd never been a coordinator they hired him within his staff I saw Austat this morning that the seven coaches in the NFL that were hired from within the staff meaning the organization just said let's elevate a guy in the staff all of them are struggling what do you see what Freddie kitchen you know you know honestly I thought Kitchens was qualified lipid his back right couple years where he was a quarterback that coach for for certain teams I think in Arizona and then he was running backs coach and I'm thinking what to what benefit does that have for a guy like Baker Mayfield feel or a quarterback in any sense you know whereas the experience you know I think you have to draw from your personal experience not just from what you learn you know when you coach them running back so you know you know short ten years as a quarterbacks coach you have to be able to give a quarterback everything and and not because you played the position you learn from experience you know you have to give them a little more than what the average coach can give and and I think Bak- needs to be paired with a guy and not taking any credit away from kitchens I'm only talking about the experience factor needs to be paired with a guy who has years and years years of quarterback experience working with different quarterbacks you know a guy who knows the quarterback position and played it and been through you notify notify out there on the field on the field I think that's the best thing for him and I thought Greg Williams was qualify guy because he's been around a bunch of experience coaches coaches and even though he's a defensive guy he could have helped out on the office on the twenty five his experience and what he knows and the people he's been around I thought they got back was thought it would work but is just not good for big let's talk about the Green Bay packers now you do go into games and clearly clearly the chargers game plan was very successful early against Green Bay my concern was green bay never really adjusted did I mean Bosa just ate him alive he's a great player but when you watch Green Bay it's not that they lost is it troubling to you how they lost lack of adjustment it was the same game for three and a half hours it was troubling to watch but what I do know is that sometimes you run into teams that you know the desk before when you plan on the road you come in thinking that you're going to pretty much wax them and and beat them convincingly and then those guys come to play and then you get stymied and you can't move the ball and things are kind of haywire full time you try to get you start getting yourself together got this too late I've been a part of not a bunch of games but enough to know what that game yesterday was all about it was about momentum for the charges it was about the packers being a little flat in like Aaron said this is something that we needed to humble us a little bit so that we know that we not you know we're not where we need to be as of yet I get a game like that will make you better and your next five or six games hands down you think so really absolutely yes that game aim was like you said it was very humbling it was humbling for me to watch you know because I just Nuder Green Bay will win that game convincingly I knew it would be tough and I know how competitive the charges are eight minutes is team we've known as win on that day on a given day the best thing we'll come out with a victory yeah don't forget last year New England lost five games on the road teams that didn't make the playoffs this is the difference between the NFL and college. You don't bring it Cleveland and bring it to you you get you get down fast let's go to a team I was very critical of Jon Gruden he'd been out of the sport for a decade and I said that listen there are just certain businesses this is I always compared to Silicon Valley I mean every year it feels like a different industry and I'm like football's the same thing it doesn't even look the same on TV a year I got to chase them mm-hmm that's a real football team and Derek Carr looks comfortable Derek cars getting better Josh Jacobs is a star and there's something about Gruden he's old school buddies clever how about that fake punt yesterday what do you make the raiders you'd say Jon Gruden and May I can you put them together and grooten from his past experience and and being able to work with quarterbacks that's what that's what you know he he's pretty much made a living off surf outside of being a great personality in in hard nose coach he knows quarterbacks and I thought he would be a Guy who needed some time to adjust to the game being away for ten years and I knew last year would be a trial and error period for them so I didn't judge him on that but this year this team looks totally only different illich confident they looked like they're starting to understand what the offense is about by the way tied as a barn in multiple weapons renfro you got Jacobs I mean I mean you got guys that we don't really know or not marquee players but in are making you know making hey every time they step out on the field as a credit to making what you know he knows his his his Africa talent and Jon Gruden putting these guys in positions and I I just think Derek 'cause he's always been efficient and one of the best of me he's always he he he he gets done you put players around you you build a a game plan around him that he understanding GonNa execute and he'll do it you know I I like his game by the way I thought he yesterday so ask you before the best coach you ever had and you said Andy Reid yes so it's amazing so they don't have Patrick Mahomes they don't have their left tackle and they face a Minnesota defense which has pass rushers all pro linebackers grain corners pro pro bowl safety and they take Matt Moore who was coaching high school and they take Damien Williams who you know we don't know much about he ended up rushing for one hundred yards. How do you take Matt Moore a High School Football Coach and immediately simplify game plant Matt Moore look totally comfortable against now you again you were with Andy Rear how does Andy get you to consume a playbook and so quickly own it and he draws from his experiences with quarterbacks backs he coached quarterbacks for a long time and that's what I was talking about in regards to the Freddie Kitchens Situation Andy he worked with grooten years ago I may I mean up ten years ago but they have rapport with you know Brett Farve and Bruton Cunningham and you know that whole era was this you know it was quarterback based and there was quarterback driven so andy knows quarterbacks you know you can give them macgyver Matt Moore or you can give them a guy like Aaron Rodgers you can even give him Lamar Jackson and Lamar Jackson will flers eighty resolve because Andy is going to do what make some this guy better than what he is now he told me wants Andy doesn't try to make you fit into him no he's GonNa and do you like he's going to actually what you're comfortable with he's going to he's going to give you a presentation on a Tuesday night and then on Wednesday dissertation acing you talk about she talked about it yes this is what I love this coach on this right here I don't know if we can I'm not comfortable say we'll try it out and see what you whatever you feel at the end of the week is always open ended and you know his concepts and the things that he see when watching film he gets a kick out of he loves loves it and you better believe a guy like Matt Moore who hasn't had Andy Reid in his career loves everything he sees in a game plan Wednesday morning I guarantee you and that's why he's able to go out and be efficient efficient let's go back to Lamar Jackson so we're going to show some Lamar Jackson video when he made a run yesterday made a bunch of guys miss take me I want you to just go back in your mind when you were like Lamar and you're running are you Russell Wilson once told me he goes when I run I feel like a kid at a shopping mall dodging shoppers are you thinking about it is it instinct takes over you know I I can understand Russell said that because you know you actually making grown men miss and the fact that I was doing it in the National National Football League college was one thing when I was doing it in the NFL I was like licking be nfl making grown and I'm Watson Watson Lamar and I'm like he's making grom emits I watched Russell he made grown men miss in these guys are professionals they are the best tacklers in the world and it must give you I it just gives you a kick and it's almost funny and you go back and watch film and now you got the whole world laughing and the whole world watching tuned into what you're doing awesome now you'd become just this big show off and ask for the terrorists into Mike it's great seeing you again four pro bowls thirteen NFL NFL seasons? 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Line is better they got Darby back a corner secondary's better matter their offensive line is getting healthier they're very good situationally red zone offense third down offense top ten in the NFL and again leadership matters I liked their leaders and here's the other thing they found their identity it took him a while this is a team that needs to run the football and then on play action throw they're excellent tight ends you can't rely on the Sean Jackson's health I'm not saying this team should go to the super bowl and win but they are way better than everybody nobody who bailed they were unhealthy they got healthy I like where they're at where Colin was raw blazing five is officially in a mid season three weeks slum I am now twenty four twenty on the year which is fifty four percent I got the raiders right. I took favorites this weekend playing on the road and I almost it's never do it and I got burned I was one in four I like the packers they mailed it in I like New England they got blown out and I like Indianapolis a lot and Jacoby Brusett got got hurt in the first half and down went the colts. It's a crazy bizarro world season and I'm in a slump where Colin was right I like Derek Carr I've always liked Derek Derek Carr. I didn't get the rumors a year ago Jon Gruden doesn't like Derek Carr get a franchise quarterback he's always reminded me Tony Romo without the risky throws goodfeet feet he's accurate it's got a good not great arm he's athletic and he's a high completion guy this last year even with Gruden last year he was seventy one percent and missionary like seventy three percent I don't get the criticism he's a grownup he can be a little sensitive on social media but he reminds me a Romo I get the Romo Accuracy Kim received feet hill throw the ball he'll he'll hit can squeeze it into a window but you'd never big arm and again I'll say this again the idea idea that you can just go fine Derek cars guys watching football I mean every year it's like we think we have all the quarterbacks we need eight and teams every year like we gotta you get a different quarterback Derek Carr a franchise quarterback get over it in a Raider Gut where Colin was raw gas is a disaster the jets do nothing thing well what yesterday Sam Darnold had a terrible throw and went twenty-seven for thirty nine that's not terrible considering that offensive line they had ten penalties threequarters quarters he instills no-confidence they don't do anything well they're special teams are a mess their defense gets gashed offensively the optics the penalties don't Bang Bang on darnold he had a terrible interception darnold wasn't terrible the he's a quirky coordinator with a weird awed rigid personality he doesn't work and I've wasted on this I watched him in New England beat ballot check twice I watched him in New England have a winning record with Ryan Tannehill will maybe Ryan Tannehill better than I thought but they don't do anything well I don't believe in firing somebody midseason this is not a darnold issue this is a coach strategy ofensive lines a disaster and I don't think those leaks last week in the press that was going on how do you have nine nine different players on the trading block you can't keep any of that quiet where Colin was right on the big Andy Reid Fan have been for years I think he's the great play designer liner kind of my last ten fifteen year this generation he takes you know a high school football coach they have a backup left tackle those positions are sort sort of important and they go up against the Minnesota defense which is stacked Minnesota and the best roster in the NFL and then go toe to toe with Green Bay and they go and then they beat Minnesota I mean they really know what they're doing this is a really really good football man and again Damian Williams he gets twelve carries one hundred twelve yards minnesota doesn't allow running yards to the great backs Damian Williams gets one hundred twelve and football is always been the coaching Sport Nanny Redone Never Super Bowl but does anybody nobody gets quarterbacks ramped up to play at a high level faster than Andy Reid ever it's amazing what they're doing right now where your Colin was raw I have picked against the Oregon ducks all year I've picked against him to start the year I said they're flaky and they can't went on the road I picked against him in Seattle and they dominated the fourth quarter from the huskies I picked against them this weekend listen I had questioned about their coaching staff I said it's a great recruiting staff off but every time they play outside of Autzen stadium they're a mess they made great adjustments against Washington in USC. Justin Herbert should be the first quarterback we're back taking including to a big tall arm leadership again if they're opportunistic they're fast they make adjustments they have have a great quarterback they can play with power they're only losses to Auburn game in which I felt they were the better team for most of it I was wrong the ducks are for real and right now now I think their loss is better than Oklahoma's I'd put him into the final four where Colin was right Gm John Dorsey traded his best offensive Lineman to get a personality wide receiver it's not working I'm not saying oh BJ's not talented but he's a distraction he's had a watch tissue he's had a visor issue he's had a sox issue he's had a clete issue this weekend he's had I'm not getting the ball enough issue the bottom line is if you look this year he's got one touchdown pass a COUPLA hundred yard games but I've always believed you pay people like Lamar Jackson played played great they won that's the way football should work at Stefan Gilmore had two picks the Patriot jubilee Jose won his production never equals wins wins it didn't in Cleveland it didn't New York right now he's catching more flack than malls he is in the red zone their fourth leading target in fact I think now he's just a huge distractions quarterbacks need help not big personalities on the perimeter I hate this move initially I hate it more now I would trade at obt and the off season and get an interior offensive linemen and a draft pick where Colin was raw joey Bosa came out of Ohio state I I said I think he has a chance to be a bust in college he was hot and cold took place off lots of ego to inconsistent IOS wrong on that I mean in yesterday he went up against Brian Beluga who's a pro bowl tackle and it was embarrassing God it was awful he leads the NFL in eleven tackles for a loss yesterday he had a sack and a half and four quarterback hits he's just been great that's why when his brother came out to the niners I'm like yeah he'll be fine it just he's a monster he's just incredibly the Bosa brothers are raw the others the word relentless they're just they're just built to go a hundred miles an hour their dad was a football player they're both great football players I thought he was a hit and miss guy that took place off at Ohio state he was on Block Komo yesterday where Colin was right three years ago I kept saying there's this kid New England named Jimmy Garoppolo eight teams need a quarterback could somebody go and trade for him I didn't understand stand it he was good when he played for New England he couldn't get on the field because they have a guy named Brady and through eighteen games now he's got the second best record with Dan Marino and Roger Staubach to ever play he's good he's got the it the look the feel the mobility the size the arm I just didn't didn't get this I remember being I just got into this network and I kept saying okay now look at all these college quarterbacks and I was like Jimmy Garoppolo Oh has belichick everytime I've watched him play for New England in fact I like Jacoby the third guy and I didn't think present was nearly as good as Jimmy Garoppolo we kept screaming me it's the it factor the look the confidence the arm the mobility You're watching them folks Thursday night was the first time first time the Niner I said defense didn't show up we can't run the ball take over Jimmy. 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Snacks Daily

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iBlackjack at the iCasino Penns Barstool app. Home Depots pimped dividend. Cheggs back-to-school bounce.

"Nick this Jack and this is snacks daily. It is Wednesday August Nineteen Nicholas. It finally happened the SNP five, hundred, an all time record not too but small businesses are losing, right? Yes and big publicly traded businesses that are in the S. and P. Five hundred their win is painfully true and it's a painfully simple explanation, but we managed to make this our best snacks. Daily yet, Jack First story casinos are living in the blockbuster video era basic doesn't sound good but penn national gaming shares have doubled this year because it's turning casinos into net flicks for our second story. Since you TEMPIO CRIB MID pandemic, not bad home depot has become the exhibit of the Home Improvement Industry Great snacker. By the way we're looking at the upgrade it's made to. Its cash dividend for our third story just in time for back to school check is setting record sales in online textbook rental but the stock has doubled since it's not your textbook. Textbook Business. I love. What we did there now it's knackers before we jump into all that good stuff in May Jack Dorsey of twitter toll twitter employees they could work from home until the end of eternity. Then Mark Zuckerberg half sucked. The idea bass announcing that facebook would aim for fifty percent remote workforce long-term. Sucking up full second. So maybe you've had a work from home fantasy yourself out there thinking about instituting a strict no pants dress code for the whole office, little disclosure Jack and I wear shirts like a third of the podcast we actually record. You may even have stalled like a two hundred megabits per second download speed Wi fi for your backyard your life goal standing desk year at everyone has it. But Classic Amazon, it sees all of this movement towards a permanent work from home and it doesn't care get the. Jacket. I noticed that Amazon is adding physical offices in six cities. The opposite of work from home we're talking three thousand, five, hundred work from Work Amazon Corporate Jobs New York City Phoenix San Diego Denver Detroit and Dallas Congratulations Zuganov Amazon office. You'll get Neva's on office you'll get office one key we got to point out no perks Jeff Bezos does believe in like Free Greek yogurt handouts pays police in the Church of frugality so you're not getting any like Greek yogurt for bill yet work from home isn't a guarantee Starts. Daily. Rain Food Candy. Use robinhood family. Informational. Just so he get. Recommended, security it's not a research report or investment advice to offer or sale of security. Digestible Business News. Video. Financial LLC member. Less Abby C.. Four our first story, Penn National Gaming is getting Wall Street. Love even though it's casinos are dying because Wall Street thinks Penn is blockbuster, but it's turning into Netflix's knackers Jack and Chechen, snacks out earnings last quarter for Penn National Gaming. Very. Specific. Name. Fell because Penn has casinos not just in Pennsylvania Casinos in one thousand, nine, hundred different states somebody Ben Franklin he's passed spoiler alert here they were all closed in one, thousand, nine, hundred. That's right. All of Penn national game is casinos were closed the entire quarter that we're talking. So then minister to snag, it's off a two hundred and thirteen million dollar quarter billion dollar loss for the quarter contrary to our experience house doesn't always win a pair we don't perform well On. The table. Now, we don't know when Penn National Gaming's casinos will reopen, and that's a huge problem for the company. So then Jack and wondering why is Penn National Gaming stock at a record high up one hundred and eleven percent since the start of this year, it's a very simple ads are it's one word either three or four legs pens it's called Barstool simple furniture penned made a wicked investment in Boston born tabloid star Barstool just a little bit earlier this year this is. The Dunkin donuts of Sports Media Deborah. To Hazelnut the Cup Colada. Now, here's the idea behind Penn national gaming acquisition of Barstool which was announced in January hen wants a piece of the fast growing online sports betting industry and it just so turns out that barstools founders a guy named Dave Portnoy who speaks English with a Boston accent and speaks betting with a sports acts. Yes he does well put now barstool has given take and we're going around here a Jillion sports and culture podcast, and it's the number four ranked podcast publisher on her and it has hundreds of millions of people on social media who listened to everything Portnoy says. So Jacqueline you're noticing here is the epic. Collision of tech and media products collided Dave nor is about to tell all of barstools audience to download the Barstool brand new sports betting APP that's right. Penn calls this the best in class sports betting product ever launching September because again, they're heavily invested in Barstool they own the company right thirty, six percent of it now, and it could go up to fifty one percent. So starting this fall, all of Barstool podcast and blog posts are going to end with a very clear see ta for the You WanNa balance sports we just yelled each other for half an hour download the boss sportsbook APP put the money on it download cache APPs. Back every podcast is going to drive business to this brand new APP, which is controlled by Penn National, gaming work on and now. So Jack what's the takeaway for our buddies over at Penn National Gaming the future of casinos stocks isn't casinos it's I- casinos smackers you have heard a lot of buzz over the last couple years about legal sports, betting APPS like draftkings, and although investors think this is a megatrend that will result in the legalization of all betting at tons of. APP for everything that happens in casinos right now, which will increase the size of the market for sure because you can gamble from any again things that Jack and I are really bad playing at no evidence of this comes from Berry diller probably snacker who's the founder and CEO of a C- a company famous for investing in APPs is resume includes scaling Tinder Expedia, them, Yo, college humor which nick and I loved rumor odd traffic and invested pedia. These are all online businesses. All turns out this Barry Diller the port of digital media APPs invested a billion dollars through a sea into mgm resort the famous Casino in Vegas. Now this news does not mean that Barry diller is pivoting from APP stick casinos. It means he thinks casinos are becoming APPs. That's why he's invested slot machines. BLACKJACK craps all the other confusing stuff all from your phone while riding the subway that's his vision. Now, this long-term bet that Barry diller is making is a bet that. Casinos are kind of going to go the way of blockbuster they might go out of business. The casino stocks are now building the netflix's of gaming for the future and it starts with Penn National Gaming and the Barstool sports betting APP four our second story with American spending zero on entertainment fashion and leisure. You're spending thousands at home depot, pimp, Yo Crib. Yes. Has Home Depot at a record high stock price, and that's because staggers. This is a big box store that specializes. Literally specializes in big box. That's what they do. Make everything you buy depot comes in like an enormous box. You'd better have a pickup truck small were unfamiliar with that term Sir. Now, from May June and July you cancelled your vacation hated ended your gym membership finally because he can't even eat in buying new. Clothes whatever those look like and you didn't drop fifty bucks on Law Garden Kiani. Bucks. Instead, American spent all that saved money at home depot like Adirondack chairs, a hedge trimmer a Coleman Cooler must be nice. All that added up led to a twenty three percent sales jump over at home depot. That is who. For a company that already is worth three hundred billion dollars translation. That is thirty three lists. You could thirty three lifts in a single home depot translation. That's like a six foot dude who's in high school and then add eight more inches to his noggin. Derek Derek wasn't eating Derek a late growth spurt like that tends to just not happen. But here's the weird thing snappers the Stock Home Depot after they made this earnings announcement fell one percent after the call because the CEO stood in front of reporters after the earnings report. Yeah and he didn't look that excited now just not that much enthusiasm from this guy, it's like you just had a fantastic quarter. Can you give me a grin and what this CEO apparently is claiming the reason he's so down early signs that the spending boost home depot just got from stuck at home Americans. He doesn't think it's GONNA. Last think about this stimulus checks for twelve hundred bucks they already got spent. And thirty million families just recently lost their six hundred bucks a week. Extra unemployment benefits already pimped you home with the brushed brass sconces. You're not going in for a second round as concerts unless you got a second home to pam porches like rare must be nice. Now, a company like Home Depot is only as legit as last retained customer clorox also got a surge in sales. Thanks to the corona economy and they believe that cleaning behaviour like OCD like don't want to be near germs that is here to stay at home depot, thinks that those new floorboards just got we're just one off purchases. You're not coming back for more basically investors stock down because pimple crib like a wedding. Talking about this, you spend big ones and hopefully never again. So Jack what's the takeaway for buddies over at Home Depot Home Depot stock, which is ticker symbol hd is a profit puppy for shareholders. We're not talking about a home depot product being a prophet puppy we're talking about home depot the stock, and that's because we noticed one line and home depots earnings report. On September seventeenth, we are paying each shareholder of home depot a dollar fifty cents per share as a cash dividend. Let me know your vetnar county that is not just a one off. That is the. Hundred and thirty fourth straight quarter that Home Depot has paid a dividend to shareholders like a check from grandma on your birthday. But every three months now home depot's stock is hitting two hundred and eighty five dollars. It's up thirty percent this year it's a clear corona economy winner. That's one reason you might be pumped homedepot shareholder. But even if the stock hadn't rose this year, each share would have received six bucks in cash. Thanks to these quarterly dividend. Thanks to the dividend two percent return considering the stock price, which is in big but it's not nothing considering dividends. If the stock price didn't move, you'd get two percent return just from the dividend home depot is a profit puppy already today it just doesn't get as much future hype love as like Amazon does four our third and final story textbook legend check is soaring as the school year kicks off. You've racked up a decade of degrees you communicated they have a decade of acquisitions that are finally paying knackers. We have all been there jack the title principle foundations of Calculus volume six, edition five because addition for uses different numbers that example on page thirty, eight, C. You gotTA. By addition six and it's GONNA cost. You know roughly three hundred and forty six dollars and twenty six cents never around number these off textbooks. Jack what's the way to that text book? By the way? It's break your back because it's fourteen pounds i. hope you got a military grade backpack turn to chapter six in herniated disc along the way. Oh good news comes with a CD ROM in an online portal but don't worry you can offset the cost because you can sell back at the bookstore at the end of the semester for fifty bucks. The. Textbook. Industry makes. No Sense. So a couple of founders over at Iowa state came up with this idea for a company called Shag and these Iowa state cyclones must be English majors because. is a mash up of chicken and egg beautiful because which comes first the job or the education or is the education, and then the job their core business of check is selling or renting textbooks online for much cheaper than like the Middlebury College bookstores going to sell them for and the results are showing right now in the corona economy sixty, three percent surge in revenue from last year and the stock has doubled this year. But there was one number that Jack and I found way more fascinated. She doesn't just have customers. Now they announced a sixty percent jump in subscribers last. Quarter subscribers added more subscribers in the last three months than they didn't all of two thousand eighteen and these subscribers are paying twenty bucks a month for the net flicks of getting smart. That's right snacker. This company has made a decade's worth of acquisitions and it is finally paying off right now in twenty ten, their quired crame star, which sounds like my nickname in college but it's actually the original homework help or online. Then they snag Node Hall, the craigslist notes then this study blue, which is like convenient flash cards microphone, and then they grabbed a coding bootcamp because if you don't. Have a coding thing they know him gives you any credibility these days and thanks to that arsenal of ED tech companies they've acquired. They're now offering a subscription study pack for twenty bucks. This is an online tutor, lucious the toughest questions they got a mass already tool and it's all on subscription form. Basically, they're selling you the textbook and then they're selling you twenty bucks a month study pack to make sure you get a text book is always enough nineteen, ninety, five a month because venture capitalists won't talk to you unless guy subscription private now, the average American college student is not. What you're picturing in your head right now, the average college student in. America. Is Twenty five years old and nearly half of them are employed forty percent. It's not just the eighteen year old with the scarface poster and thought Father Poster so that everyone in the dorm knows how tough they are. No they're not going bankroll by parents. These are working adults who want to pay twenty bucks a month because they got to keep cost down and they gotta get some skills. They gotTA bring food home to kids at the table that's who is targeting. So Jack, what's the takeoff our buddies? Checks true value is that it owns the entire customer value chain smackers most platforms are just connected like a user with a service, their matches, basically, middleman airbnb they're pretty much cupid for like sweet pads for the weekend. They do not own that three-storey Malibu conduct just finding someone who wants it for we put. Owns everything that offers every part of the value chain transaction the lessons that quizzes the study guides, the distribution channel, and the data from all of its four million users. That is all check. The value for investors isn't just like one of these touch points. It's in all of this eeo calls this disproportionate value and Investors Agree Jack a whip of the takeaways force over there Penn National Gaming Casinos are closed, but it stock is at a record high investors don't care if Cassini's Greta business as long as pen moves gambling into its APP Home Depot. ONE LAST QUARTER AS AMERICANS TEMPIO next quarter it might not because you'll crib is already gotten pym. Third and final. Check is a Netflix. And like netflix zones, its original content check owned its original flash cards. Now time our snack back today this one tweeted in by Anka Anger Wall, and to messed up study from twenty sixteen. So apparently, genetic data like DNA in our good stuff they use acronyms because they're so tough to say case in Point Membrane Associated Ring C. H. Type Finger one, just get short into March one understandably Microsoft Excel accident I miss classifies that name as the date. The first day of March thought March one was marched the first. So the study looked at three, thousand, five, hundred, ninety. Seven published science papers and found that like a fifth of them were affected by those excel errors, science papers, kind of need excel. So scientists have recently renamed a whole bunch of human genes so that Microsoft Excel stops misreading them as date feels like the kind of thing you know apple wouldn't have messed up before we go snappers happy zero, birthday, Jack Arthur Brandenburg here's born yesterday Jack Arthur Brandenburg happy zero birthday happy first birthday to ran patella laugh Kansas, and so feed yearly in San Jose California. Nineteenth. On Staten Island Jody Louisville Kentucky Home of Mohammed Ali and Jordan Hormones in Charlotte North Carolina and congrats on the first day of business called the Davis Haruna. Jenny Gal got through turn off or she's employed in reading Pennsylvania show Chang's knackers. You look fantastic. Ask Your Friends H. Y. H. Y. S. D. Have you had your snacks day we'll see you tomorrow. This is Jack I own stack of Amazon if you know. 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On Point's Year In Radio Diaries

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

50:43 min | 5 months ago

On Point's Year In Radio Diaries

"Support for on point and the following message. Come from kyko do you own or rent your home. Fortunately geico makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too. Because having a home is hard work go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Hi it's meghna chakrabarti host of on point before we start the show who let us take a quick breath shall we. Because what a year. This has been every day. Every issue brought more questions. How did we get here. Why is this happening. What does it mean. And how do we fix it. I'm really grateful that you've been with us throughout this year. Listening along as we try to find answers to some of those questions. Because that's what we're trying to do it on point and you know that figure out how to understand to survive and to thrive in the world we all share. So here's my pitch to you. I use the word we allot and by we. I mean you. Because we can't do this with how you and i'm going to borrow heavily from public radio legend ira glass because he always says that. Public radio is the most idealistic of any news media. We put stuff out there hoping that if you think it's valuable you'll support it. It's a business model based on idealism and based on trust you trust us to bring you journalism that enriches your life. We trust you to help. Keep that going. So yes. This is a fundraising pitch. But don't don't don't jump forward in the podcast just yet to tap that fifteen. Second forward button because this is important. I am asking you to support your local public radio station that's right not some big faceless network but support your local journalists who live right there in your community who are reporting on the stories that are happening in your state houses in your schools and in your state from now until december thirty first. npr's fundraising campaign is four local stations. So do your part if you can and donate at npr dot org slash on point. Go there to get started and thanks. Well here. we are the start of two thousand twenty one over the past year. Many americans shared their lives with us. They were vulnerable and brave. About what twenty twenty had brought though so today we want to listen back to some of the stories. We loved best. The voices that lingered with us the longest. Let's start in april twenty. Twenty new york city was then the american epicenter of the kobe. Pandemic public- aeros is the owner of. Forget me not what had been a popular bar in. New york's lower east side when the pandemic hit he couldn't serve customers anymore but he found another way to keep his business going. Forget me not getting reports. I just give me one second. You just helping customers. That's that's available right now Forgive me that like You know a local dive bar with Really good food supposed to locals. You know we've opened up by june eighth two thousand and twelve. I think about four months prior to hurricane sandy and that was a slap in the face right off the bat. So we've made it through that a couple of blackouts and now this. I mean this is. This is epic proportions. But it is what it is but he into Party derek derek. Having think it was a whisky so thinking what to do and turns around and says to me. Why don't we just do a grocery store. Plus my brother owns big supermarket in the story. Queens i grew up So i figured you know. I have the supply chain anyway. One of those is do you know so when it christie. They got a bunch of plywood. Subverting the lumber just the shelves and there was it there's definitely trader joe's and the whole foods within ten fifteen minutes from me but then this huge lines and some people. Just don't want to wait. Come get their stuff. But obviously i can't compete with the big chains. You know what i mean. We do our best. But also we have full liquor. They don't we send a lot of gin and tonics to go. Bloody marys margaritas whiskies. You know some. you can't get into big store. You see the same faces you know same conversations you know you check on people to check on you you know back and forth. You know you choose to help people you help yourself you choose to keep saying you know you choose to keep other people saying and i think the mental health things that'll be shoot after this at least i have the. Tv's we'll play some soccer games. You know 'cause there's most sports either so that drives people saying that's gonna be huge man. Listen people. this supported us through the years like this crazy creases support. So we take we give back as much as we can. All we have left each other too. Yeah there was a big that was pablo sierras owner of. Forget me not a bar turn. Small grocery store in new york city's lower east side. We recently checked back in. Pablo was in greece but we spoke with his wife abby zeros and she says they've reinvented themselves again. This cute little general store that sewing creative things that you know. Multiple people from their neighborhood of made and brought to me scarves and candles pillows and clothing and hats and fun stuff. We're just looking at this as an opportunity and not as something sad. The twenty twenty s. ben. You see you see a crack in the door and you push the door abandoned. Something better on the other side abbey. Also says they're looking forward to reopening the bar in the spring will not. Everyone has been able to pivot as easily in october. We spoke with the tricia seco- before the pandemic she worked as a contractor doing data entry and her boyfriend working two jobs to make ends meet. But when the pandemic hit those jobs vanished i was able to receive unemployment benefits even with the Extra six hundred dollars davey lists and i was thankful because i was able to bank some of that money because little did i know it was gonna cost me six hundred and four dollars a week in the most handle My landlord decided that he wasn't going to renew our lease because he's the house the only notice he gave Was that he wasn't renewing our lease so that was sixty days of sixty days was no time in a pandemic defined a house because people weren't moving and that's how we end up being homeless. Oh it was crazy when benefits went away because that man that we probably wouldn't have food or anything like that because we would have to use all of your income. Just keep a roof over our head. I mean in the motel things were because it seemed like everybody needs to hire or work at home positions or removed. This and because i didn't have the capacity to work motels. Why aren't even my own. Personal hotspot was not good enough so that cut down on a lot of jobs for me. Well luckily what happened. Was i sat with the new york times. And they encouraged me to set up a gofundme me account so through that we were able to get over thirteen thousand five hundred dollars and it wasn't just about the money i'm sorry. Start crying but it was just overwhelming died. Sent an angel to the motel. I didn't know this person. I asked around the big chain. And they paid about three weeks to the motel for a and they had meals delivered four days a week. A second stimulus would mean the world because we pay for daycare. That was another issue. But i didn't want her to be a part of our adult problems. So i didn't want her spitting around the motel all day looking at me cry or or if i had an interview you know i would have to scramble speeds anybody who watch or and i'm lucky or daycare on the lower and one hundred fifty a week but imagine right now and i get three seventeen a week so if i pay one fifty a week then that at least half of my unemployment that i don't know when i'm gonna go to work. I had a dairy nice doom interview yesterday. But i just don't know you just feel so alone in this world and it's still not over late with this virus is just wreaking havoc in the management of it and this unemployment nonsense and It's just a mess. i'm just spraying. We contain you. Get through it. That was the trish echo from newark. Delaware she. I shared her story with us in october. We heard from trish again. She had some good news. She has moved out of the motel. We were glad to get back into a place of our own. It was a little rough. You know in the motel and not knowing what was to come now. My concerns are I need to keep my place. I don't wanna go back there. The trish is still looking for a job and to make matters worse in mid december. Her boyfriend contracted the corona virus. And that of course brings us right back to the root cause of this past historic year. Healthcare workers have been the tireless witnesses to the pandemic deadly toll. We heard from a lot of them including emma rome an emergency room nurse at massachusetts general hospital in boston. Emma shared her crystal clear memories half a year. After the pandemic i hit he was like an otherwise healthy man in his early sixties And he had walked into the hospital and he was intimated within twenty minutes or half an hour of coming to the hospital that he had walked into and that was a very eye opening like man. This is a really scary virus by then ama- an emergency room nurse. At massachusetts general hospital knew her whole life was about to change but it was hard was just being afraid of getting it and being afraid of you know that maybe by mask. That had been cleaned. Three times wasn't the seal wasn't going to be as good. And you know just that staff that that there was no real way of knowing and no time to really think about it because kobe cases were rising fast. The tense went up with felt apocalyptic like they had the turned the ambulance bay than in lake. This testing center which was great. Obviously so people could get tested. But i think it was just you know it was just really wild and you can always see people have like a special Symbol i guess on their barely electron perfect shows if they have it and i remember just sitting there looking in the area with an every single patient having it. We definitely are just as busy as we were in the before times but it's very challenging because everybody needs to be six feet apart so we reach capacity in a different way and much sooner. My boyfriend also Worked in the er for seventeen or eighteen years and then he was told to come back to the er. They rearrange everything and anybody who had been in. The er was told that they had to come back. And i have to step kids. Who are with us half the time and you know we love dearly and it was really hard decision because we had to decide right in the beginning of it to have them. Just stay with their mother so we weren't able to see them and it happened just very abruptly and it was devastating and i think seeing it research again reminds me how scared i was and how it wasn't that long ago and even i was just listening to npr and And i cut really anxious. You know they talked about making the tent. And i remembered the tense. We had and just how stressful it was in. How lonely all were geared for it to happen again. You know just. Because i know what it was lake and i think it's going to be worse. That's time because there's flu because the money stuff that we're not gonna be a showdown in the same way that we were. I think anticipating that while knowing what. I'm really getting into again and scary. I think it's really scary. That was emma rome an emergency room nurse at massachusetts general hospital in boston. She shared her story with us in october this hour. We're listening to some of our favorite first person stories. We heard throughout two thousand twenty. Stay with us. There's much more to come. I'm magnetic roberti. This is on point. Support ron point and the following message. Come from geico do you own or rent your home. 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I mean we have to write in the world of work from home and school from home so many of us feel like we're trapped in those little zoom boxes all day long last june. We spoke with nate croly reviews editor at rock paper shotgun and independent site that reports on the video game industry and he had a great story about one of his friends who decided to dump zoom and instead hold office meetings inside of video game to break the monotony. They decided to try and work out. Where would be the least appropriate place possible to mate and suggested red dead redemption which is proposed not familiar am exactingly details cowboy simulator essentially In the the online mode you get together with a pasi of cowboys cowboys. And in this case being agenda neutral term anyone can be a cowboy. Your cowboys right around an incredibly granular realistic enormous depiction of the american west at the turn of the twentieth century. It's meant for this really massive almost westworld like experience of being cowboy. They decided to use if for conference calling. They started having their matings around the campfire with the cowboys and ended up being way more appropriate than they expected because the cowboys so of look at the having a meeting last sat there around the fire. Acid nodding their heads scratching their chins. Staring off into the middle distance. That polite attentiveness but slight bawden the well acquainted colleagues will take on during a long meeting talking about comas as the wolves howl in the distance. And then of this crips make yourself at home. It is your home. Crips is a non player character is is an entity who looks after your cat raises pretty nice dollar in my keep. I'd rather work calling him out. Sufficiently intelligent might be a little generous. He's the sort of wispy bid goblin who sits around playing mouth hall incessantly. In fact you have to play a little bit the him or else the survey kicks you off for being oil patillo. Vivienne that colleagues around this by constantly making coffee and that's one of the things the cowboys can do and it seems you know again look for a good role playing of being a corporate environment. It's a relaxing environment to top three things in because it's not all in gunfights and dynamite. You can just have a night. Chill this two hundred thirty four animals in the guy this like a dozen kinds of small lovely woodland birds. You can just stroll around looking at the scenery because it really is gorgeous. Yeah it's it's the same factors as walking and talking with a colleague in the real world only. We can't do that at a time. Where it's very easy to become ambient acura phobic stuck inside over time. It's it's quite a release to have these outdoor spaces which consequence free. I think that's what that was neat. Croly reviews editor at rock paper shotgun. An independent site that reports on the video game industry. Well another thing that folks including us thought about over the past year was how the pandemic might disrupt global supply chains or the movement of goods. Well we were quite excited. When truck driver. Mike manus reached out to us last may to share his story of what. It's like being on the road george cars. We have to keep rolling. We deliver absolutely everything that everybody needs and wants. Nobody thinks of us when it comes to just covert nineteen. Nobody's mentioned anything about the truck drivers and what we do just how we really truly are. We're the ones that bring no matter if it's a straight truck or semi or van. We're the ones bringing a couple of the companies i go to. They make the mass. Everybody in the world is trying to get. And i bring product. They need in order to shoot their product out company. We weren't for you know. They think it's not the same as coming from outside of our field that so many not just a thank but to realize what would you do out here and how would it affect each and every single person in the united states not just not just certain people that certain companies. Everybody absolutely everybody. I know at the end of the day. When i come home i knew who did it and untold amount of people by the things that i bring the things that i do and i just. I just thankful that. I had this kind of job. That's mike manus speaking to us. Last may from omaha nebraska. He reached out to us to share his story and in the year to come. We want to hear your story so if you have something you wanna share or a story about an event that's happened to you. Let us know. Call us at six one seven three five three zero six eight three or drop us an email at on point at wbz dot org bit earlier. I called twenty twenty year of trial and transformation. It was also a year of reckoning for this country as protests flooded american streets this summer after the police killing of george floyd in minneapolis and in many cities. Police responded to protesters with force in june. We spoke with nathan baka an investigative reporter for the washington. Tv station w. s. nine on june. First he was reporting on a major protests in lafayette square in washington. Dc when he was tear gassed opening a bag right now since i have them inside the sponsor begging i'm holding one right now it says. See 'em scott. Shell oh c forty millimeter on that june evening. President trump walked to saint. John's episcopal church for a photo op just before seven pm. Law enforcement officers from at least three federal agencies cleared protesters from the area nathan was in that crowd officers said that no civilians were teargassed that day. Yet nathan found canisters that had been fired at protesters by police. You know what it looks like. It looks like a shotgun. Shell a very big silver medal shotgun. Shell when you look the inside you see. It says scored and scorched because something was launched there with some powder and it exploded out. Soldiers cannot use tear gas on the battlefield but domestic law enforcement can and did use it on american streets. We got there around five thirty and everything seems peaceful. It was very diverse and energize group. We saw mothers and fathers with children. There we saw middle age folks. We saw people who've probably wouldn't be surprised to maybe have been there during the nineteen sixties and some of the civil rights movement people chanting whose streets our streets chanting. The name of george floyd brianna taylor and others who had been killed and police brutality. This would have been right around six o'clock and we found ourselves right on the fence. Line of lafayette square park. We saw movements of police officers getting really close fence getting to the fence line and that made people nervous. Because i don't know why they were advancing to the fence line just after six o'clock because everybody had known through the news coverage at seven pm was going to be the curfew. I heard a loud speaker coming from the police side unlawfully at square park the first time. I just couldn't make out what it was. It was garbled then. I heard it again. Few minutes later right around six fifteen. One of our other photographers brooks. He thought i think they might be issuing a dispersal and then run six thirty. We heard the first flashbang that pop. Sure enough you see that human wave of people starting to scatter they were afraid about what was happening. The first push was mostly about shock-and-awe stinger ball grenades and lot of popping banging. That was the first wave and then people started to collect themselves inside. The intersection of -ation seventeen at that point would have been around six thirty five forty. We started to notice. These gas canisters starts to get rolled. Our way i remember running through smoke. From those canisters like this yellowish green color. And i remember seeing this line of police just marched south almost like some civil war battleline marching south firing off these canisters and. They were launching them at distance. Won't forget that because it was. They were like lobbying that not rolling them. They were being fired as they were marching south on seventeenth south of h street. Pass i cried. Like i hadn't experienced before certainly wasn't an emotional cry. It was the cry of their something. Burning your eyes and your tear ducts. Just won't stop becca or photojournalist. She was just coughing quite a bit or running on adrenaline because south on seventeenth street south of h street and trying to get to safety because our security guard. Let's just try to pull us across the street to avoid as best we could. These gas canisters that are starting to keep on rolling past us and you see in our video were running. We change direction quickly to the right because we see a canister that is smoking. This sort of yellowish green is tint rolling to people in front of us that are looking right but we go. We just watched it. We were we were still going live on our air. The us did. Police are taking over this section of eighth street. They're telling everybody moved back but it's happening so that people basically said nagin collapsing and then we rounded the corner again. After a little bit. Because i was hearing in my earpiece that the president was at the rose garden then we started to hear earpiece. That president is walking across to the fiscal church. Just where we were. Before i self journal spec sports anchor daryn hades and our security. John we were all just there then intersection and we started to take notice things that were on the ground on the street and we noticed these canisters our the remnants of the stinger ball grenade. Then we started to pick them up a darren. I we took those canisters and we split the month amongst each other. And i remember wait a minute. His looked slightly different his head. Different markings on it mine was orange. His was light blue. And so i called them up. And i said i need you to show me take a picture what your canister looks like. And he did. And it was exactly how i remember. It was light blue and it sets gas house like that. Idea is further evidence that one of the agencies that cleared lafayette park. That monday used artificial. Tear gas a gas. That is something that everybody was denying was used but it was used and there were the evidence of it when i view the video of what happened and still hear those screams Of people confused shocked. some cases. Physically hurt you hear that and it takes you back to that moment and whereas one could be thankful that most people escaped lasting injury. There may be a concussion here. burns and injuries there. It's still was so shocking to witness that as a kunal group that it shakes one's understanding of what it is to be a citizen that was nathan baka investigative reporter for the washington dc tv station w. usa nine. He was in a crowd teargassed by law enforcement to clear the way for president. Trump's photo op in lafayette square. In june. as summer moved into fall we had the pandemic we had protests and a presidential election due to the pandemic many states expanded mail in voting and allowed early in person. Voting and a record number of americans turned out to vote so even in those early voting locations. Sometimes it was a long wait ever lean. Rutherford voted in georgia on october twelfth. And she's got quite a story beginning with a ten hour. wait to get to the voting booth. I quickly realize probably an hour in that. This was gonna take a long time. There will be fifteen minutes. That would go by where literally no one would come out of the poland area and the line just was not moving and that's were asked her to get frustrated for those ten hours really. I had all kinds of thoughts about about leaving on and off. A lot of people did leave and was like. I can't take this but everyone around was kind of sharing each other on like don't leave. You can stay come on. We got this. I had to go back to my car and get my chair. They held my spot. Everyone was being kind to each other laughing giggling. I enjoyed that part just socializing in being kind to people. No matter who voting for politics was all left out also. My husband was hitting me up and was like stable. You've got this. I have our sons. Don't worry about us vote. I try not to watch the emotional. Nothing about i. Try not to watch the george floyd video but someone had posted a small clip of of when he was on the ground and he was crying out to his mother and i watched that clip of a couple of seconds and i just started crying. And i can't imagine my my son. And i have three boys three black boys young men and i can't imagine that being one of my sons and i want to stay there as long as it as long as i had to make sure that my vote and my voice is heard. I think it's quite ridiculous. The type of lines that we have in georgia to me will. We had the primaries earlier this year. There was extremely long lines as well. I would have thought that they would added more. Polling places did some type of action in order to prevent this again for the actual election. And i really have not seen any changes so to me. They want long lines. They don't want people to get out and vote. They don't want people's voices to be heard is ridiculous that we're still doing stuff like this nowadays like like this is still not fix. That was ever lean rutherford. She lives in kennesaw georgia and she waited in line for ten hours to vote in october. Well this hour. We'll listening back to some of our favorite personal stories we featured on the show in twenty twenty. Stay with us more to come. A magneto bardy. This is on point. This is on point i'm magnet taco bardy this hour. We're listening back. To some of our favorite first person stories we featured on the show in two thousand twenty. Some of them have been heartbreaking but others just transported us. This is the place where the forest meets with see. Many of us think of a national forest is just a bunch of trees but this is much more than that. That's amy julich a writer and photojournalist. Who spent lots of time. In the tonga's national forest in southeast alaska. Why the tonga's well the tonga's national forest is one of the largest intact temperate. Rainforests left in the world and as a national forest land serve many purposes in late october. The trump administration removed decades old protections on the tongue is opening up to potential logging mining and other development so although we did spend an hour talking about the future of the forest aiming bulich guided us through the beauty of the forest as it is right now so you'll see very steep forested mountains that seemed to just rise out at the ocean matt's on the mainland and then just off that mainland there are thousands and thousands of forest islands. And those are also part of the thomas so this is a place where the forest meets the c where waterways are weaving amongst all of these islands. It's a very wet cool temperate rainforest very misty like low clouds will just kind of hugger just above the treetops. But that's what. I absolutely love about it. When i'm sitting on stanton's fawning streams what i love about that experience. Is that nothing else matters. Except what is happening right before me and whether that's a lot of action in meaning a lot of salmon or streaming by the bears around me. That's actually what i hope is going to be happening so i can be photographing that but there are quieter moments to. There's not a lot of bears around. And that's what i really start looking around. Really take in everything. Soy taken that the sound the sound alone are amazing. You've got ravens you know what these of heartbeat screams. They do when they do these croaking sound. You're hearing that like kind of reverberate. All throughout the forest. You're hearing front of the chitchatting bald eagles screaming of the screeching of gulls. And then what. I absolutely love are the sounds but the salmon me like the splash of their tails if they hit a spot in the stream which they often do to warehouse their body is out of the water and the other half is wriggling. Har- tried to get into a deeper part of the street. You'll you'll hear that tail slapping you know out of the water and hear their body wriggling. You know a lot of times. I'll just close my eyes. And just listen to all these thousand. You can just hear how alive Displaces that amy gullick a writer and photojournalist. Talking about the tonga's national forest in southeast alaska. Okay so i'm going to draw you back from alaska here and back to politics sort of on saturday november seventh joe biden addressed the nation for the first time as president elect. He will be only the second catholic president in us history. And in his speech that night in wilmington delaware biden referenced his catholic faith by invoking a particular him captured the faith that sustains may relief sustains america and hope and i hope we can provide some comfort and solace the two hundred thirty million thousand americans who've lost a love of this terrible virus this year. My heart goes out to each and every one of you. Hopefully him gives you solace as well goes like this and he will raise you up on eagle's wings bury you on the breadth of dog and make you just sign hike the sun and hold you in the palm of his hand. The mention of the him stood out to many americans watching the address singer. Lana del rey. Covered it on her instagram. He goes the him draws from psalm. Ninety one in the bible but it was composed by father. Jan michael jonkers a priest and the artist in residence and research fellow in catholic studies at the university of saint thomas in saint paul minnesota six. I had dropped out of the seminary system for a while and was working but wanted to keep friendships up with people that i had studied with and one of them was man named doug hall from all who had continued in the seminary system and was studying at theological college in washington. Dc well when we came home to theological college after a wonderful dinner. There was a message waiting for doug saying that his dad had just had a heart attack and the song was actually generated between that night of the wake service for his damn. I would say that the most common experience for me when people contact me about having used. The song is in the context of funerals so their experience of comfort and encouragement that the loss of a loved one is usually why they would write to me. Some ninety. One is part of the formal night prayer for roman catholics. In a thing called the liturgy of the hours. Semen pace in the most under the shadow of the all night and some ninety. One is one of the psalms. That's strike four one of the days nightmare. So i've been praying it for years with this feather and under his wings shops and it came to mind when thinking about trying to create a song that would be of comfort and encouraged one of the great blessings of living long enough to hear the song done in many different. Contexts is now to look back and realize that. Although it started in a catholic ambit- it soon moved beyond catholicism to other christian denominations so it was no longer confined just two dollars. A massive car bomb exploded outside of a large federal building in downtown oklahoma city shattering. That building killing children middling oklahoma bombings took place some years ago. I believe the wife of the governor of oklahoma at that time asked that eagles wings e son for the memorial service and. That was the first time that i recognize. The song had gone beyond even religious direct religious context to now be kind of a civic. You and i was absolutely delighted. Uh to see that it could move beyond certain frameworks and make comfort and encouragement available to people in other contexts. When president-elect by used in a new context it wakened at tiredly new way of interpreting the song for me. And i thought perhaps he's thinking we are as as american citizens divided about fifty percent against fifty percent. And here's the image of an eagle flying. it's impossible for an eagle to fly with only one way. It means both of the wings to be able to soar. And perhaps he's thinking we need both sides. Though fifty percent and fifty percent to soar ahead into the future has good country. You will be your father. Jan michael junkies a priest and artist in residence and research fellow in catholic studies at the university of saint thomas in saint paul minnesota. He shared the story behind on eagles wings with us in november. You're listening to susan. Powell and the oklahoma city philharmonic performed the song at the memorial service for the victims of the oklahoma city bombing in one thousand nine hundred five. Well finally. let's end. Today's our on a note of hope and renewal. During the election season. We held a ten part series of voter roundtables and we heard from a cross section of americans military veterans newly naturalized citizens suburban voters young americans voters from across the political spectrum in late september. We were joined by amid vevey. Of beaverton oregon. Ahmed was born in iraq and he became a us citizen just days before talking with us. So when did you become a. Us citizen three days ago three days ago. Congratulations thank you. What was that moment like. Well it's a ceremony like is a dream come true because honesty. I was dying to get my Citizenship before the election off. Med got to vote living in oregon with. It's all vote by mail system. He had his son take a video as he dropped off his ballot and in the video off. Matt does a little dinner because i was happy. This is the first time for me. This is historical moment. For me on my. Here's the update. It just so happens. That i'm ed and his wife. Russia had something else to look forward to in early november. They were expecting their third child. The first born in the united states we won't be around like november eight nine. we don't know which funnily enough would have been right around when the presidential race was finally called however something even better happened. Election day arrives and early on november third like iran. I am my wife. She says. I think i need to go to hospital. Yeah you know where this is going on hospital and everybody like all the nurse and doctors. They focused and i. I was watching us on the road like ignoring everything just to see what we got like and like my washy looking like really think is nine two. Am pacific time on november third russia. Who by the way russia. I totally with you. You were right to chide your husband. Russia and ahmed son ali was born. I was happy. I for elite to arrive that day. Just like we have something like remind that day forever. Mom and baby are healthy. So ahmed russia analee were home by saturday. Ahmed told us when they learned the race had been called for president. Elect joe biden. He danced again. We does together the victory so he opened his eyes like white. And i think asking like what's happening right now like why. Why shake like this like so anyway. I know that's how one day you will understand that. Honestly i will tell him. We had like a big fight. Like i mean election and especially with the big numbers. We got people to make them involved with election. Victory and this is for both sides. They need to be proud of it for him. I will tell him. We will not forget his birthday. Because it's election day and i would keep feeding him ideas that we need to keep this nation united and work for the better from through four our kids. And that's the thing isn't it sometimes. It takes a new american. Like ahmed to remind us this man who came from iraq who says he saw firsthand. The war-torn blood-soaked costs of insurmountable division. That i moved so our responsibility to stand for this nation. Not that any politician to try to devalue those every four years americans from all walks of life all political persuasions have the chance to touch the spirit of renewal. The process is imperfect but the opportunity is there. So there's one less thing we asked ahmed ave to do for us. We asked him to record a message for his son the newest citizen in his family and he did it holding his baby. His big arms stroking ali's tiny cheek and chen. Ahmed spoke to the man. Ali might become and election day. Right love you because you bring all that good luck for our nation. Have you be collectible. Hey man listen when you growing up let someone can make this nation united again or you can be that person however maintenace nation united again. Okay love you That's amid as who've eighty of beaverton oregon speaking with his baby son ali who was born on election day. Two thousand twenty so there you have it. Some of our favorite first person stories. We were privileged to share with you this past year and in the year to come. We want more of your stories so if you have a story you wanna share. Let us know we might reach out to you and talk with you in this upcoming year of twenty one call us at six one seven three five three zero six eight three or email us at on point at w. b. u. r. dot org and one last thing you hear my voice every day but this show simply does not exist without our incredible staff and bouwman jack beatty jonathan chang. Eileen amata stephanie could sonus hillary mcquilken james. Ross dorey shammar tim. 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REShow: The Watt Brothers. Hour 3 (05-20-20)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: The Watt Brothers. Hour 3 (05-20-20)

"Thank you for listening to this. Podcast one production available on spotify apple. Podcasts podcast one dot com in anywhere else you podcasts. This kid is the rich. Eisen show looking bald man from the rich. Eisen show studio in Los Angeles not a photoshop picture of Tom Brady in Tampa Bay buccaneers helmet pook download and podcast at richeisenshow dot com. I really enjoy your hair in earlier the show. Espn College Game Day. Host Reese Davis Lion's head coach Matt Patricia Coming Host of the new game show. Fox's ultimate tag. The one brothers is now rich. Eisen Allah number three and final hour of the rich. Eisen show here live from Los Angeles California on a Wednesday right in the middle of the month of May a month in which we saw the return of live sports and Nascar and a little bit of golf on our friends right here on. Nbc Last weekend we've got Tiger and Phil and Peyton and Tom guys who as you know if you refer to just first names. It's it's rarified air rarefied air do that sort of thing. That's coming up this weekend And we're hoping June there's more sports returning and and I'm assuming by June the Ripple effect of the last dance will be gone by then. But you never know. More news stories could could crop including what's What somebody's just calling and wants to pass along us about the famed pizza. We'll get to that in the second of your phone calls. Phone lines are let Chris Brockman and Mike Del Tufo and I have been having a great conversation based on the way. Yesterday's show ended with me revealing. I've never seen the film point break. And have never seen roadhouse from beginning to end. You know Chris and people have been calling in talking about the the movie that they've never seen that they're embarrassed to say that they'd never seen. We had Matt Patricia. The lions on last hour even asked him he said that. He's a diehard fan of the star wars films when he was a kid used to have the popcorn in the front row. The movie theater by I've never front row guy in a movie theater never now. I can't do it again. I senator I know I only did one time. And that's because those were the only seats of exactly but he said he was a front row and popcorn. Everything and so You may maybe. That's why he's so good watching all twenty two because it's different from his usual perspective of being right up front. He likes to see all twenty two but he said that he's never seen any of the new star wars that he's waiting because he knows he needs to binge watch it straight through our nobody bothers him and clearly. He's he's got other film that he watches So it was fun chatting with him in the phone lines are all it will. We'll take your calls Here on the rich Eisen show Shortly on that subject and more. The Watt brothers are GonNa join us right in the middle of this hour Jj TJ and Derek Watt Co hosts of Fox's ultimate tag that airs tonight after the mass singers revealed. Big stuff in my household. Who Do you guys or your kids think is GonNa Win Obama? I mean honestly. It's beyond say they actually need to up the bounty more hundred too because they know it's never gonNA happen. They think they might think it's Michael Jordan. Who they think it's absolutely the most famous people and then with all due respect to the gentleman who called in last week because he was kind of to call these guys. It's Barry Zito. And they're like crickets arguable. Honestly they don't they don't remember. They weren't alive when Barry. Zito won a world series. One of them one of them was one just going say ark for them to know. Barry Zito so. I hope it's an Obama tonight that means I'm three hundred dollars out. Because is it a one hundred dollar bounty in my household fresh hundred dollar building my children. I would literally beating any Obama. Any Obama even the daughters. They think it's Lebron James anytime that it's a tall. Somebody's talked like Barry. Zito is tall masks singer. They Lebron so you ask who it is. That's I'd say no. I wasn't joking. They really think it's one of them has got to be Obama because it's their favorite show and the whole world's watching it and they are. I tell you a repeat of here wherever you are tonight at midnight eastern or will be nine o'clock Pacific here tonight when ultimate Taegu's on the air what you will hear if you're quiet will be the battle or we hope there isn't one on one side me and my wife me and sues on the other side. My three children insisting they have to stay up to watch ultimate tag. We're like no. You stayed up to watch the voice. Ten o'clock last watched the Massingir you can. Let's dvr ultimate Tek swimming. There is around. I know we'll talk. I talked I talked about it with. Jj TJ and Derek. The reason why I'm using the past tense building interviews coming up in fifteen minutes Thomas. I zoomed with them from one on my home stage. One Stage one reopened bombing. It's close zoomed with them on Monday. So there's lots to talk about with them and I do hit on the. I'll tell you. The very subjects hit him within the football subjects. They hate him with them. One with. Jj deandre Hopkins being traded Derek. What and Tj our teammates in Pittsburgh. I asked them about when they think that they're going to be back practicing in person. Even though they're not experts on the virus what are they being told and um I teach. He's ever got an envelope. I went in the envelope direction. Okay James Harrison with TJ. He's the along with bud. Duprey Prime Pass rusher. You could say the prime pass rusher for the Pittsburgh steelers absolutely. Okay think you can guess what his answer was but I still. I'm sure it's still funny to see is react on just the three of them. Just their interactions. It's priceless spectacular. It's great that'll be coming up so Again I know some of our wormhole four five four zero saying You know the answers over. Why do you keep talking about it? Well because people keep talking about there were exit interviews all over the place and as I did I did. I not tell you Christopher Brockman did I not tell you the conversation coming off. The last dance will be Lebron Centrica conversation because he's the current goat and is he and Jordan's class WHO's the one who took the bait earlier today. I mean one of your all time favorites. My Guy I said it during the commercial break in the middle of our to Christopher. Why is Paul Pierce trending? He says Lebron not even a top five player of listen to the whole quote but the headline even want to know who he thinks is in his top five. It's insignificant. How is Lebron James? That a top five player of all time he was on some ESPN count. Gosh all right with Jay Williams Taylor and Jalen rose. He's GONNA wind up beating Korean for most all time. Points scored unless covid nineteen ruins the rest of his career. I think he'll be the all time leading score. Yeah what about assists isn't even an easy standby isn't in the category. Isn't he. Close in other categories to? He's been playing for a long time. Oh my gosh shelvin teen so crazy and then horace grant one on a radio show. Espn one thousand eight th all time. He's going to be top five in pretty much everything. He's not top five okay. That seems he's been quarantined too long. He's going crazy. I mean that's probably talking with his basketball calling it Wilson which they do now call it again right in a couple of years. Okay moving here okay. So hard grant was on. Espn one thousand Chicago and Mandy Unload East pissed off. Because Jordan thinks he was the one who told Sam Smith everything for that Jordan rules book. And this is what Horace Grant had to say. Michael Says Yeah Horse was the league. He's the one that went to Sam Smith a game all that stuff for the Jordan rules. The floor is yours. How do you respond to that? I dated to everybody. That is a downright outright. Completely la live lied lot and as I stated if Mj grudge with me necessarily like let's talk about it or we can service. So here's another way. But yet and still he goes out and put this lie out. That was the source behind. I would never put anything personnel out there. What does that mean? Selling other way. Fisticuffs is that what that means. Take it outside the okay Jank. Then then he He I mean he went all in this. What is this is? This is the the sound bite. That's getting the most The most run when so called marriage is about one person basically and he had the last word on what's going to be out there on a documentary narrative of what happened in the last quote unquote. Dan Let's not a documentary because a whole bunch of things will cut out it out. That's why I call it a so called documentary so called documentary. I've seen people calling it. The last propaganda. Oh my gosh on twitter. Ganda by so-called Documentary was a great show on the CW. Wasn't it back in the day? Quired anes maybe Horace Grant I mean and if something comes out that wasn't covered in the last dance. Some personal stuff wasn't covered the last dance. Oh do you think new cycles over? Na Na has Scottie Pippen had his exit interview and on the ESPN shows. I have not seen him anywhere. 'cause because the one thing. I would want to ask Scottie Pippen. You really wouldn't Redo sitting on the bench with one point. Four seconds against the next to go knowing knowing now coach made the shot because if coast you'd Missed Ping could've gone full. Read our back. Sure Hey hands up. Should I should've beat up you. You call the wrong play. Fil a call. Thirty three knowing coup coach made the shot. Now you now have that twenty twenty hindsight. You still wouldn't change that. And also it's been a decoy in the corner and also Jerry. Reinsdorf says you would never have signed for one more year and running back. Never and he wouldn't even admit right. This is what I'd ask asked. Yeah Jerry Reinsdorf said you never would have signed for another one more year deal and and Jordan thinks that you would've needed some convincing. Would you have run it back one more time? Everybody wants to have these exit interviews. I know I do. And there's a question about the pizza back in the day guy goes on a local radio show in Salt Lake City and says I was the guy who made it delivered. I worked for Pizza Hut and then we had auto from Park City Utah. San was a gourmet chef. Back then I still have businesses. They're now not shot. That a pizza hut was opened in the middle of June and there was another establishment that we know made the pizza former senator. It wasn't per purposely poisoned but could have been that. We found ourselves in the middle of that story. Chris in Park City Utah. We got a lot of fans at Park City Utah. You got something else i Chris am I on. You aren't very first off very nice to talk with you. Guys a big fan of been watching. You said that you came on all think they'd have Dan. Patrick five seven one eighty strong. They're good so yeah. I I was a place called LAKOTA. Yes is the name of the restaurant. That's what I said yesterday right correct. Okay Yeah I don't. I worked at a we work together at a Sushi bar across the street. That doesn't exist anymore. Either GONNA be Kado. Basically all the places in this story and personality don't exist anymore. Pizza Gone Code. Has Gone Up okay. God Is Gone. And so what do you do? You got anything you just okay. Yeah sure. So here's the deal. I was there that night. I don't remember if I was working but I was there that night and our owner was a guy. I don't WanNa say his name. I hope that's cool He he He had this big plan because Lampley Jim Lampley was one of his partners that he thought he could get in the door if you delivered food and they called over late night and they made him a couple of pizzas and just as much you know. The food wasn't very good at this place so I'm not saying that it it. It made him sick but it made a lot of people sick and I didn't really like to eat there and I was one of the employees. Oh I gosh so. If you're you're saying Chris it's par for the course that might not have been up to snuff that Jordan. Yeah I am saying that there. You Go Chris. Thanks for the time and we got one second one thing movie thing. Okay please so the deal with your movie I have to that. I'm not embarrassed that I haven't seen I have to that I'm proud. I've never seen all. You're going in direction. Okay what are you going? I got the most popular or excuse me the most both profitable movie of all time as titanic. I've never seen titanic now. How it is and the other thing is Avatar. Never made it all jeans coward. You don't change can James Cameron is so I get that maybe a thing but I love the terminator and all that stuff all right. Thanks very much Chris. Appreciate it appreciate it. So basically we've now had two people say there was an establishment city. If there was only yelp back in nineteen ninety-seven probably without avoid Jordan would have gone hungry for the night to rummaged the minibar chips and he would score. Jim and he would have scored. What forty five. Instead of thirty eight. Thirty seven minutes play. He would have played all forty eight and instead you to play it. Just all day was cost of four minutes played and a couple of points bucket here bucket there art. You're on hold. Stay on. Hold the WATT brothers. This is going to be a fun conversation with. Jj TJ and Derek. Back next on the rich Eisen show. Let's take the phone call of mark in Minnesota Marksman hanging on for some time. What'S UP Mark? You're on the rich Eisen show. Yes you're on Sir. What's on your on your mind. Your thoughts on NASCAR coming back. I'm excited We haven't heard anything yet right Chris. There's been nothing other anything Charlotte still going right. We're we're we're going to go actually Dave. Another race in Darlington. Don't think they've got a race on the twenty eighth. Okay Hello There. Hello. Yes but it's been raining all week. Okay we'll figure that out. Postponed been postponed. All the rain. Goddamn offering all right. So they'll move on a charlotte. I'm I'm rooting for him mark. I'm rooting forum. I can't wait to see more of it and I hope that. Thank you for the call man. I hope that everybody involved is healthy and that the NFL the NBA a an MLB can call them up and say you had a tunnel logistics men and women. You had a tunnel logistics and you handled it how. What was your testing process? What was your point of care testing? What was your protocol here? What was your protocol their. Walk US through. What you've found that you needed to do the first time that you didn't do the first time that you've got to do the second time and so on and so forth the xfinity race is going to raise. Thursday. Yes okay. Let's see keep going. Keep going as long as everybody can do it. And they're healthy good. Lord. They've got to be healthy please. That's my thoughts on Nascar again. I'm I'm not I'm more interested in in how it goes down. Then who wins to be very honest with you that makes sense? It does just the circumstances the time that we're in right now it's safe. It's all important for every sport going forward will do respect to Kevin. Harvick won the race to win of course but everything else is. Alright now I am going to text Don Buoy. Okay the name of the film that I have not seen yet and I'm wondering if he's going to respond because he wants to get some sort of visuals prepared for when I reveal it later on. I posted the video of of restart. It you just received it. He said I'm not mad at you. I'm just embarrassed for you so you'd be embarrassed. We got to think about this Brockman embarrassed. I know that I have movie holes. I'm embarrassed for come on Shawshank. Save it because I haven't asked you on our NBC. Show a couple. There Amaury responded to reese's post. Who DID DARYL MAURY A of race saying? He's ever seen Boesky. 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T h what does that mean. I get that to be honest to be honest. I get that then. She wrote back Hey Chris you've got mail. Which is your favorite movie from my attorney fantastic. I Love Sarah knows how to ride align and by the way if she was to call it a defend herself let her tell you the story about the first time we watched the fugitive together. I on the phone lines are all lit right brick dislike. His movies are very you have to light that dude stop. I love stop. I let lease please. Just be quiet. Because you're just digging yourself a big hole and we've got the white brothers all set. This is a fun. Conversation with the brothers who've got a big premiere on Fox. Tonight is zoomed with them on Monday. Here's the contents of this fund conversation. Okay now let's welcome to the rich Eisen. Show the brothers. Watt J. TJ and Derek Walk. Who's new show will be on Fox this Wednesday night at nine eastern ultimate tag premiering on the Big Fox after the huge mass singer. Finale that my kids are going to be glued to so they are already going to be glued to the WOK. Brothers to see you guys how you doing great thing off. You've got it all right. First Question I. This is the most burning question I have. We have. Jj J. in your middle name is if I'm not mistaken. John why are you not? Dj Want wise that he asked so. This one's been a big topic. I've noticed on twitter quite often. I just go by Derek. I think I was maybe four five and just one day came home. I just WanNa be just Derek. So they started calling me just Derek Derek to kind of really sink. Now it's going to be different and The main reasons I feel like I was a kid. I didn't really love Oli. Jay Tanner from full House. And I got d-w Arthur Me Just be just derek kind of started ever since a young age seem to have some commentary on this. I mean he explained that forever. It's Rhodesia handful house. He didn't want to be called. Dj Dj is a girl. So you went by Derek in. That's the story desired. Okay it was always up to the commercials. So that's already. We just find it for twenty years. Yeah so you had you had some your visionary Garrick. Is that what you're saying? Yes just trying to help out the family okay. Down the road. Okay and We're on the radio right now as well On our show on her simulcast so I need to describe what's going on right now T J. You look like you're in your kitchen. Looks like we see a very nice refrigerator and some cabinetry behind you Derek jeter Derek. What we call. What's behind you right? Now what do we call that? Are We call it? A beautiful decorative is executive do and some flowers floral arrangement inside of it not mind. But it's an awesome wife kind of likes to decorate and it's It's here so to explain to the radio viewers if took Bamut flower way. It would look like a hostage situation for with the Roma tre. Sorry Gray Wall yes. It's the wall is not fully decorated No I'm not in my high quality office and of course. Jj you've got the ultimate flex. Which is the Walter Payton Man of the Year award that you've got their looks like if some very nice photographs. What do we have in the in between the family photographs that you have on the Ma? I think jet could explain it really well with those. Three things are not J. lights in trophies for Defensive Player of the year in Let's me know about it. But T J. I mean you're you're you're circling around that right. You're you're beginning to zero in on something like that. Wouldn't you say I am but you know it close is just not damn good enough so I'm going to have to earn some some of my own bragging rights. Get One of those but now J. in can have that at thrown. He's got three of them so impressive. And then those are some photographs and family photographs. Your your family man. Jj for me. I've got my wife up picture me and my wife. Some kids Books that I haven't read the favorite book. Gosh it's called total access combined rich. Eisen. This is definitely my favorite book. It's in paperback think. Available everywhere books are sold. Jj everywhere books are sold and there it is and I happen to have a copy handy. Just go figure that right here my house. And this is a photograph of me. going out at Michigan Stadium Back in the day a few years ago and I bring that up not fully aware what. Everybody's record was against Michigan at the University of Wisconsin. I'm not fully aware that any member played in my career lay them. That's just Derek. What about ultra one having Lonzo on Jayjay when for me quarterback? Jj you're really to know because I again I'm a man of my word. Every time it was going to interview you on the rich Eisen show is gonNA have this Mug. That's normally stationed in studio. But I brought it home just for the occasion D Jays. It's my tears actually still at my dears on up. You've seen this mangas. It's got the final score this Yup. This past year is Debacle and it says. This Cup holds rich Eisen steers. Right there I respect thank you for bringing it home to the office and I appreciate you saying that an that was in case you are all three of you very upset with the password for the zoom that I put in there you wanted to. Tj WanNa bring that home. What for everybody at home with the past was for zoom. It was Michigan Ripe Guest English again. I WANNA puke. Nobody wants to break rich. Eisen initiate this. This was a one time opportunities. Since I'm going to have all three of you together I've got. Jj Watt. Derek Watt T. J. Watt all sheltered in place. How did this all come about with ultimate tag is for you to imagine given an opportunity that three of you old do a TV show together? You jumped at it but I just want to throw that out there. Yeah suffered to became to me a couple of years ago. And they said that they had an opportunity to host an executive show. I thought that came to my mind was perfect. Night working Backyard his kids. We have this while rare. You kinda rely on each other a little bit also grieving best. Each other at your show. Turn out amount of furniture. We got suspended took time together while which is very TJ like you said. I think the coolest part for us was that Jj even thought to include us into this show in when he brought the idea of hosting a game show or a competition. Show on Derek. And I I. I know I was nervous because I've never done anything to this. Magnitude down to be able to Commentate in inspect a truly once in a lifetime. Experience with the to my brothers on ultimate tag We watch that growing up. We did tag growing up in. It's something that everybody can relate to on. We all had our tough times in gang host me especially. I wasn't very good at reading off the teleprompter in if it wasn't for us to get me out of my own head. I don't know if I would have been able to finish show. What do you mean heavy? Have you ever tried reading off L. prompter with cameras in people all around in Egypt? He literally osas on Calorie. What are you? What are you talking about talking to the viewers folks? I mean Tj if they had defensive player of the year awards for you know reading teleprompter. I'd have millions behind. Sort of like your brother. You had some you. Were encroaching. Offsides neutral zone infractions. I mean is that basically what you had all the above I think every every rule was broken into book. And it's like I said it wasn't for Jadon Derek. I'm Jay argosy was smashing out of the park like down. Every single day of his life in air was all right. I mean just all right but I at the end from where we started where we ended. I was night and day Eric. Yeah he had a struggles you know. He had a very long drawn out. Answer there but Struggled struggled to. What the teleprompter You know just it was a lot of fun like I said it was a cool opportunity for TI. We grew is that we. We didn't know we had never done anything like that in our lives. So it was very cool. Opportunity for US Starla rocky and we ended up. I think coming out a much better at the end. I love an opportunity for another crack at its season. Two so which which one. Jj If you had to award most improved player to one of your brothers from the beginning of shooting to the end who would s fair. I tj having like Frivolous Roller folded. Wash them both growing really. Were legitimate. Good host okay. The end of the show but didn't WANNA of filming was the in Rehearsal Day in it. Was You know I've been talking to producers this whole time resentment executive shelby? I was telling him. Doorway has got this job. I say to practice we get infirm itself out through. Tj started in for about twenty minutes. We kinda went through these struggles in the whole time. The executive Bruce are looking at me like can you suddenly got all right? This isn't looking good and a credit back gate through discernibly much better better day. We did out. J just kept saying when the lights come on. That'd be good short. I hope I maybe maybe you. Tj You can be Most improved player Derek. You could be comeback player of hosting. We could split these awards and we could figure that whole thing out and so who are who are the people who are running around like these are just regular normal everyday people that you would just say who wants to run around and play tag on Fox with the the WOK brothers. Kind of being the judges. You're what it is so taggers are professional. Taggers are legitimately some of the best athletes in the world. There are core background for the most part One of them is is the fastest Parker athlete in the world. Right now I believe Just some truly phenomenal athletes in. You'll see I mean just by looking at them you can tell there. It's care of their bodies they they just trained super harden in there. They do some incredible things in the competitors are some everyday just everyday people that wanted to compete and some of them also have tremendous backgrounds former athletes themselves join up somewhere. Olympic athletes And just Kinda people that wanted to give it a shot and got kind of the. The wide range of athletes in has a cool to hear their stories and see them compete. It got it got intense for a grand prize at the end but it was mainly pride and they wanted to win and competing. Esso's taggers as well as the other editors rich. If you're asking if you can compete at some point in the future that we could well. Here's the deal. Jj You've seen my straight line speed every okay I'm I'm not sure I can work on my side. I can kinda work on you. More confident or less confident I think my lateral agility Can Be worked on and I think I could look. I've been running from people entire life so I just wondered. Did I hear the words professional taggers? Did I hear those words like? Is there such a thing where you can vary his job in world tires? What is that I you guys? Are Technically rough rushing asser? Your professional team of twelve The date nights roll. Your turtles have our team of Professional. Taggers nature abner now kind of monitor the bill us so every week on the show their wants to get by like some of our par courts across in some of them are former college at all our kick. Tom Prime protecting the ultimate arena RENA. So it's a lot of fun to watch the like personalities Bomar but I'm going to be locked in. My kids are fired up about the mass singer. Finale again. That's Wednesday night and and you guys talk about a great time slot for you to come out of the box. The mass singer areas it number one show on Elvis Looking forward to capitalism that you know that I mean by the way I appreciate using capitalizing that that's a big pressure. You GotTa hold time slots that's basically. This is what you know. This is what you guys have to do. I mean our first option was the slot phone richeisenshow. So she tutu. Said you could follow the one show on storrow exactly what to say to the host. And you're you're the savvy veteran of this brother's group that's for Damn sure Do I get like one legitimate football question to ask you can I? Can I do that sort of all right first things first? Jj The trading away of De'andre Hopkins. Did that shock you? Did you see it coming just like everybody? I mean definitely catches your eyes shocks little bit. No one thing people people ask me. What are your feelings on this? How do you feel I think a lot of people angry Bader whatever? It is the thing that I always tell people as hot two meters as best ends in the game. He's one of the best receivers game. Why am I gonNA miss watching hot MIC CIRCUS CATCHES FOR US? Meant huge absolute. But you also have to remember that there are two players coming to my team that ministry in to disrespect them by saying you know. I wish we wouldn't have done this. I have to regain these guys. Are Teammates not working as a player to verify? Mind used to walk any trades without a doubt one of the best players in the game. That's always Tuscaloosa guy like that. But at the same time as a rookie. Florida working with at the end of the day it's up to the GM coaching snake those types of decisions and in terms of working Derek Again everybody looks at players and coaches and everybody in sports is. If they're you know got the cure to covid nineteen a you been any indication a when you might physically be able to get into a spot anywhere for yes. Oh no real indications honestly right now. We're doing our virtual meetings every Monday. We have a team meeting on zoom and then we break off meetings in in coach. Tomlin touch base on that just kind of keeping. Us updated to the latest that he knows but honestly I don't think until pretty much the whole country Ghana gets on onboard. Where every all thirty two teams can go into their facilities or at least find eighth associates. Then go work out at Is trying to keep Competitive Advantage. Where everybody's on the same playing field so. I really got up in the air until things get under control right now just Kinda TJ said earlier Getting Ready staying ready so you don't have to get ready. Would you ready? So you don't have to get ready Just Kinda staying on top of your thing so whenever they say. Let's go we're ready to go. We just hear your prompted reading skills in real time. Did that just happen. I wasn't reading anything. I'm just another. I saw the reaction here. Brothers right there start laughing at you not getting the line right properly but you know it. Recovery could see again comeback player of the year. Garrick and TJ look It was a a a wild subject that came out of the blue with James Harrison. Last week your coach allegedly giving him an envelope ten years ago after he got fine for it on a player and James Harrison. Have you seen Tomlin do anything like that in your time there on in? I said I wasn't even anything associated with the the organization ten years ago but Now coach Tomlin Stand Guy It's always been very well to me and the whole team on one thing at transparency He treats everybody fairly and Each just a great players coach but I do not. I do not see him doing anything like that and have not and I don't think I don't know offers hand but I don't have any of that. I know that seems to be totally out of character for for for Mike Tomlin. Yes yeah he has. Total control of the whole team in is a great leader In always knows what to saying what to do in every situation But I do not see anything like this happening. Was Him all right that the legitimate NFL Questions portion of this interview. Before I let you guys go off to again. The the big premiere Wednesday on thoughts nine eastern time after the mass singer Finale tag earlier on Wednesday a JJ NBC announced that NBC S. An is going to start re airing Saturday. Night live hosting gigs by athletes. This is true. By the way yours is gonNA air next Tuesday on NBC S N. Brady and Peyton Manning's going to be that night as well Derek and TJ. How would you rate your brothers Saturday night? Live hosting GIG. What you think was best sketch that we're GONNA see next Tuesday night right here on. Nbc Tj what. Do you think well I mean it was kind of awkward to watch the premiere with my grandma and there was a lot of a lot of things that need to be censored in that whole program but I thought I mean the Olaf was funny. The parents talking to their kid was funny At the pizza delivery guy. I mean I'm just trying to think of more can't remember all of them but I think overall it was really cool opportunity for JJ to show. Everybody has funny side. We get to see it on a daily basis but for him to be able to do something different and the smash out of the park. I mean Lay said I had a tough time doing av but he got to. Do it. Live on a huge stage in I think he did. A absolutely amazing job was cool to see Small kid from walkie grow up with on the biggest stage TV. You're tearing up. Jj the hardest job. I'd tell me that some time right never for your call. We're just I feel like this like a group Hug. Derek were you there to when for the group Watson was area so what happened with grandma. What happened no so we watching with a big group of appearance like Grandma and I I don't think grandma knew what she was getting into. I don't think it was quite the show. She was expecting Though yeah some of the innuendos the yeah just some of the skits Cabrera Little Bit Raunchy. You might say a little bit a little bit in very yes she was she was not holding back. She was an Jj I am shocked. She was not Jews disappointed at a few of the skits. I think like I said Jay lost a few brownie points with grandma boy but it was worth every penny right with. It was worth every single moment for you. I imagine it was a blast. I mean it is a great time Saturday. Night live literally one of the most iconic shows on television so just a added that. Opportunity Workers Laura Michaels to the onset of the author of people are me. It was really something that I've had been before my life and that's not something that never came my the chance to do that with special. I really enjoyed every second. The productions unbelievable with those people who never cross church. Well just make sure that grandma. What's Grandma's name? I'm sorry I WANNA keep referring was make. Sure that between ten and eleven. Pm Eastern on Tuesday night but she's not watching good center an extra bouquet of flowers here in the next couple days. I didn't realize is that as small. Sorry for breaking it. The IT's pretty bad. Okay well look. Thanks for coming on really appreciate it guys. Thanks for typing in the word Michigan to get into this zoom room. It means a lot to me and good luck with ultimate tag premiering again on Fox nine eastern time with you guys. Tj Jj Derek. I hope it as successful as possible that we can get stuff on your wall and potentially a little bit more of a of an arrangement back there than than the willows. Or whatever you got going on there with all due respect the whoever is in charge of your house. I'm only witching the success that awesome. Thank you very much. I don't really think you mean awesome Derek. Hough and I appreciate you guys. First Rate First Class. Thanks for doing this. Guy's really appreciate your rich Wisconsin off. My Gosh that's Jj Watt T. J. Watt and Derek walked right here on the rich Eisen show. I'm very proud of using the password for the zoom as rolling device. Done well done. That's the only way you're GONNA win that. I just even. I wasn't there for the reaction just for them to say what's the passer guy. That moment. I just the fact that I could create that okay when we come back. We empty the phone banks. A LOT OF PEOPLE WANNA share the movie that they have not seen in their lives. That would be embarrassing for them to admit and I have one big one. This is how we roll into our final segment on this Wednesday. I mean I don't Wanna I don't Wanna I don't even want to reveal too much right here. Let's just take the first one at the top. Our friend in Vegas Dan in Vegas there Dan. I'm here brother. Okay if you tell me the godfather and you live in Vegas I will be so upset. No It's not not the godfather could And let me say that Appreciate what you guys do. Thank you guys do a great job? I appreciate you saying that. Hopefully you are healthy. Happy wherever you are in a very much. What's on your mind? But he got it Sling Blade Sling Blade. Okay I gotTA BE HONEST I. That's not that's not I could. That's all that's okay. It's okay it's okay that you haven't seen not like an all time. Classic I mean is it Academy Award winner one of our friends on the show here and a lot of friends tell me about it and you know and I never saw it never saw I it off which see you know listed never watched it but I thought after I and I'm GonNa admit I finally did see at of course okay but it was a very good. I thought it was a very good movie. Billy Bob Thornton. I mean that's where he burst on the scene man. I mean that's the guy. Thanks for the call Dan. Thanks for saying what you said. That's not I mean that's not didn't Dillybob tell us? He wrote that movie on a Yellow Legal Pad. He did tell us that did right. He wrote me yeah. He writes all of his one of. You've seen the movie. I think his best one false move. I haven't seen it. I've not seen that either. He's an amazing. But a by the way talk you WanNa talk about Great Cohen Brothers Stat. In Film School we talked about great. Coen brothers movies mentioned Fargo. I mentioned the television version of Fargo Bob Thornton in the first guy television season of Fargo dude is out of this world anyway I think he won an Emmy Malveaux Mouth. He was out of this world he won the globe for Fargo and did he win the Emmy for to I think he I think he will both. Yes no nominated nominee. Okay there is. There's the exchange I mean. Come on. Let's bring this the NBC. Audience get roasted enough at home. We've got to bring that to work to talking to you talk I. I had to state my case. They'll to the only want to go home and he's the does whatever he wants whenever he wants pretty much pretty much with all of his offs. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work you know what's easy bundling policies with GEICO GEICO makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go TO GEICO DOT COM. Get a quote and see how much you could save. It's gyco easy visit. Geico DOT COM. Today that's GEICO DOT COM G. I C. O. DOT COM okay. We come to a stirring conclusion on this Wednesdays Program with most of your phone calls that still still to go here. The Athletic Director of the Ohio State University Gene Smith said I guess during that interview with Our friends at the watts that Gene Smith said that there is a plan to possibly play games in the horseshoe this year in front of twenty to thirty thousand fans. How which you know the horseshoes. What is it ninety thousand plus hundred thousand? Yeah but you have one hundred almost your well. We got over one hundred hundred. Yeah so they would have to basically say and man there to have to be some serious security guard action to make sure that you are staying as a part. That's it. Yeah mass cry like you could put like whatever you want to tape. What's happening here on the beaches here? In southern California finally opened up and saying no sunbathing and people are showing up in robes with no masks and wanted to yep so you could sit here and say come on in the horseshoe everybody few Bruschi again. Then all of a sudden you're you're closer than six feet apart. Ohio Stadium One hundred. Four thousand nine forty four capacity horseshoe and knocking on wood. I hope all of this stuff is possible as we're sitting here in the middle of May it's it seems a bit far fetched eight four four zero four rich number dial again based on the fact that I admit I've never seen the film point break and Never seen roadhouse from beginning to end And asking you to help reveal the film that you've never seen before that is embarrassing for you to admit we've got a whole bunch of people calling in a lot of people on hold. Let's take your calls Brockman. You have had so many films that you haven't seen your lost 'cause when it comes to this even ask for one you've got like eighty of them you're coming off from the sixties and Seventies. Kubrick movies that your your life partner and mother of your child has taken to twitter to call you out on saying that. If you've never seen any kubrick movies that you're thinking about leaving she's thinking about leaving you tweeting about half an hour ago. Do you know a good lawyer. You try to respond and she goes. Hey Chris you've got mail. Which is your one of. Your favorite movies is been been establishing dot dot dot from my attorney. While I love Sarah. She's really bad to talk about this because she's only seen every movie once she's also said that there is a photograph of the computer. How two thousand and one a space odyssey in your nursery. She has these two prints of villains and heroes from all movies and twenty to twenty five on each and so yeah the how guy is on by the way was he a villain in that movie. The computer Big had a spoiler life had a mind of its own and then yes turned somewhat evil and that was the computer. Okay and it's it's it's freaky. The Way Kubrick would shoot the film and the voice was Eerie. And just seeing the unblinking eye of how the computer leads me to think. There may be some deep seated issues leading to therapy for cage in in the future that that he is looking at this photograph of any interesting choice interesting an interesting choice for nursery normally. I'd go back. You know little wild things right now. The elephant would be a good choice. How the computer thing? It's part of our great. No sure all right. Let's go to Roffe in Israel calling it all the way from the land of milk and honey. What's up but I I've got two things one my movie and then to the more important thing about Matt Patricia Interview Okay Now first of all the movie Maybe it's a generation gap but I've never seen citizen Kane ever. That's only in the American Film Institute. Greatest film of all time. So I would say that's a blind spot. What's your what's your. What's Your Patricia comment? Because I'd like to get everybody else's did not a that that Stafford wanting to sell his apartment is nothing About two months ago I got an email from my dad who came from. It came from a family friend. She she taking a picture with the Stafford now. I don't want to give her name on air because she's a private person. She doesn't know anything about football. Which Important Giamet Stafford at a function? And she was talking to him and like when I say. She doesn't know football when he told her that he was a professional football athlete. Her answer was probably something along the lines. Great Ion okay. How she stoppard in that interview and this was not intervening naturally function and this was two months ago said. Yeah. I don't think I'm going to be in Detroit next season. That was two months ago that I heard from my dad from from a close family friend. Do I trust Rafi. Thank you thank Stafford says that to somebody? I see what you're saying. Rafi I appreciate the call so we got people calling it from Park City talking about something from thirty years ago and now. Rafi saying somebody look he might not be in Detroit next year. Meaning maybe he's not in the Detroit area living he could do you know he could basically be like. Kershaw right right where. Kershaw goes to the state of Texas when he's not here in southern California right no big deal so he got park city pizza and we got Detroit through Israel real estate stores are. Let's try and whipped through a lot of these here manny El Paso Texas. What's the one film? You're embarrassed to admit that you've never seen before gentleman you're GonNa have to put me in In the Godfather the nursing category. But the one that a lot of people just got get I've never seen scarface scarface. Now you're talking about the Pacino. Brian Depalma scarface nursing. Fucking boy. Now I would like to take a get that the more you never seen your thoughts right now because needles Neil. I'm just GONNA go Greece for some odd reason. You never know. I've seen Greece as a matter of fact. Suzy showed it to our oldest son. Because before covid nineteen ahead and shut everything down like a a like a fifties degreasers party so she wanted to get him in the mood for. So I've seen we've seen as far as Mr Brockman You've got to separate the movie game. But he's here same people that he hasn't cried As being a father is that something has to look forward to Sir when you watch the Lion King with your son. You will cry when you realize you're Mustafa and do anything for your simple. You will cry. Go thank you. That's a man heads up move. Fossa and by the way get ready in every Disney movie that you're GONNA S- REC- again. One of the parents dies matter with throwing up. Disney that I watch them growing up all right. Let's go quickly. Noble in Texas. What are you have? What's up? Noble I have never seen star wars any of them. How old are you twelve? Oh you got time. You've never seen a single star wars now okay. I think he got to do that. Okay we gotta get absolutely noble in start with the old ones made with you starts with the ones when I was eight. Nine thousand nine hundred mid seventies okay. Okay thanks for the call noble. How durable is that? I mean of course if he was forty two noble. What have we done Let's go quickly Chris in Illinois. What's up Chris in Illinois? I rich how you doing today. It's going on with you. Hey I just want to say I have never seen the movie wizard of Oz. My family thinks some nut but for reason I had no desire to sit down. Ever watch it. Oh man are you sixty principle. You can't say thank this point a rich one more comics. I know you're the end of your show talking right now I called you back on July twenty nine two thousand fifteen about deflate gate and I made a comment to you about how I liked your shows the first time I've seen it and you're wondering about my enthusiasm when I said that and I said well forgive me. I am home after having heart attack and when I was watching it on. Tv You were laughing so hard you fell out of your chair behind the data and I tell you when I have a bad health day I-. Dvr I watch that to lift up my spirits and I want to say. Thank you very much for that Chris. Thank you very much now. Click your heels together and say there's no place like home. Thank you well done fantastic. Okay here we go. Here's here's my reveal. GotTa hold on gotTA so upset. Because I'm supposed to have seen this film star as somebody who does what I do for a living. I'm supposed to have seen this film the film I have never seen before and people bring it up all the time here and I've skated by. I have never seen the Sandlot I have never seen the SANDLOT. How convenient there's only thirty seconds left in the show. Yeah we gotTA RUN FIZZLE BARDY. A for you're rich. Oh my Gosh jet I gotTA catch up. What are we? Thanks for taking the show. We're up against it. Thanks the restatements Matt Patricia. In the WATT brothers. We'll see rob and more tomorrow. Sick announcing the micro about their virtual music festival exclusively on live by live featuring four solid weekends of live and taped performances for more than forty five arts now running every weekend through June seven see exclusive performances from Williams Turquoise White Denim dispatched twiddle and many more purchase a VIP pass for all weekends or individuals. 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