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Health Experts Warn Protests Could Set Off Second Wave Of Police Brutality
"Massive protests across the country have health officials concerned today airway, many of the nation's top medical experts are worried. These demonstrations could lead to a large second wave outbreak up police brutality from the onion and onion public radio. I'm Leslie Price. This is the topical. We've got the latest on each one of the many things you should currently be panicking about so stay with it. Well, it seems that worse could still be ahead of says health officials offered a grim outlook for the future today with a warning that protests currently roiling the nation could set off a second wave of police brutality for more I'm joined by OPR correspondent Marcy Hammond Marcy. Is this something we should be concerned about well? Leslie experts say there is cause for alarm here's deputy director and she'll get. We've seen massive person demonstrations across the country in the last several days, which is of course, a fertile breeding ground for excessive force, and what's worse, we believe that this second spike in police brutality. Deadlier than what we've already seen that those sound concerning no, can you give us a little more context? How did we find ourselves in this situation? Where did this police brutality come from? Well? Of course, some form of police brutality has been with US basically forever, but over centuries of exposure. The American public has largely become immune to it. However, this novel strain that we're seeing this year began with seemingly isolated appearances throughout the country over the last several months, and now boiled over into a full-blown epidemic. So what should we be on the lookout for if we think we may have been afflicted by excessive force well the most important thing. Thing to note is that. If you're feeling symptoms, it may already be too late. Here's deputy director shook it on what exactly watch out for? There are a variety of symptoms. Some of which include puffy swollen is cracked ribs, an inability to breathe, and in many cases death. We're seeing a huge uptick in these symptoms in hospitals and ICU's across the country, which have already been stretched to their breaking point by our militarized police force Oh well fortunately, I don't have any of those symptoms. Am I in the clear, not necessarily. Leslie shook. It also cautioned that there are large number of asymptomatic carriers who can actually be among the most dangerous. Dangerous as they continue to spread systemic violence and oppression, while not even being conscious of it walls, a healthy white man I'm not too concerned, but Marcie. Are there any populations that are particularly vulnerable to this epidemic? Interestingly enough? The CDC has found that the African American community has been affected disproportionately, but really it can affect anyone pets, the elderly even children, and what are officials recommending in the event that you do become exposed. Here's shook it from the CDC once more. If you've been afflicted, we urge you to remain physically and emotionally isolated and avoid all large-scale demonstrations against stay sanctioned violence until physical evidence has healed. Unfortunately, this isn't going. Going away anytime soon, so we're going to have to accept police brutality as part of our future, since any potential cure decades away, and would likely be extremely expensive interesting, so is refraining from protests, the key to preventing the second wave. Well, it may lead to a temporary lull and incidents important to remember police brutality is extremely prevalent, and it can strike vulnerable populations while they're walking through their neighborhood, sitting in their backyard or even asleep in their own bedroom so unfortunately there's really no sure way to escape it all right well. Thanks for the reporting Marcy and stay safe out there. That's OPR's Marcy hammonds. We'll be back in a moment. Somebody better call in the National Guard because there's about to be a news riot. Here's what else we need to know today. In Shenzhen China local sweatshop workers lead Chen was reportedly devastated to hear the jacket she worked so hard on had been looted upon learning that the five dollar jackets she'd labored endlessly over for fourteen cents. An hour have been stolen from Zara retail store in the US Chen was found to be inconsolable comfort to learn that insurance covered the stolen item, and Zara would be just fine. And in Washington, the looting continued last night as president trump was spotted, throwing a garbage can through the window of a local McDonald's before making off with about two thousand dollars worth of big MACs later in the evening, trump was reportedly spotted a desecrated robbins that was later set ablaze, and finally with many companies releasing statements of support for demonstrators this past week. Anti is breaking from the pack with the Popular Pretzel Shop Chain Today calling for all protesters to be shot. Interesting, tank. and. That's it for the topical today. I'm Leslie Price Well folks. It's been quite a week here. In the United States and I just wanted to take a moment to say that in times like these end in the face of unprecedented and longstanding pain. We hear it onion. Public radio are committed to acting as a ball of equality, searching evermore for striped for Justice and equality. And Justice. For, there is no equal justice and it is justice that will prevail forevermore. So long as we love one another and ourselves. And those near to us and those different from us to. At we stand with all that have been made. Now and forevermore. Also if anyone knows whether the restaurants in New York are going to be open this weekend. Could you let me know in the reviews on Apple podcast? I'm trying to do. A branch on Saturday opened a recommendations to just nothing too pricey and bottomless moster plus. Love those
Governor issues disaster proclamation, National Guard to Chicago as unrest continues
"Locally protesting continued Monday in Chicago some of it peaceful a bit more violent looting as well reports of looting on the south and west sides of Chicago also looting in the wicker park neighborhood more protests of their also reports of looting and shots fired in Cicero the downtown area of Chicago's been shut down for the most part since Sunday only open to essential workers and downtown residents that semi lockdown was a move by mayor Lightfoot after the protesters looted loot businesses and set fires to buildings and storefronts Saturday at looting and fires continued over the weekend mostly on the city's south and west sides governor Pritzker has issued a disaster proclamation it covers cook champagne to page came candle Madison McCall and Sangamon and will counties he's also calling upon more troops from the Illinois National Guard and more state police it is difficult to put into words the damage that has happened to our communities over the weekend because there are small businesses and lives and jobs and public property to think of a difficult second rebuilding task of people on top of the pandemic induced economic strife that we're living in another two hundred fifty National Guard troops have been called up to help communities across the state governor didn't say how many would be deployed to help those are already assisting Chicago police additional support from state police is on the way governors sending three hundred plus Illinois state police troopers and local communities to assist those municipalities assistant deputy director at I. S. P. lieutenant colonel David Byrd described what those troopers mission will be the ISP supports the peaceful protests there are curry across the nation and across the state of Illinois for members of our communities who want their voices heard we're also committed to protecting the fundamental rights of life and property
Large protests and looting in Chicago’s Wicker Park
"Governor Pritzker is deploying two hundred fifty National Guard troops across the state and three hundred state police officers your state police assistant deputy director lieutenant colonel David Byrne on a personal note I would like to say that as a black man that the tragic death a total disregard for life in regards to Mr George Floyd has hurt me extremely it's not clear at this point where the guard members and state troopers will be sent we're getting reports of large protests in Lincoln Park in boys town also reports of shots fired and looting taking place in Cicero as well as looting in wicker
SpaceX, NASA give final 'go' for historic astronaut launch
"The first test launch of Richard Branson's virgin orbit rockets fails Joe later reports the virgin orbit is supposed to be a rocket with a cargo of small satellites that rocket carried by a Boeing seven forty seven then propelled into space virgin did a test launch Monday the jet called cosmic girl took off from the Mojave air and space port north of Los Angeles and flew out just be on the Channel Islands the rocket was dropped from beneath the left wing of the job just like it was supposed to but NASA says the mission was soon terminated due to an anomaly no word on what the problem was version says the flight crew returned safely and they've got six more rockets under construction of pick up the mantle and try try again meantime tomorrow is the day to NASA astronauts fly commercial spacecraft up to the international space station marking a return of space flight for the U. S. here's Evan brown NASA and its contractors SpaceX the Elon musk company if made final checks of the crew dragon space capsule that two astronauts are expected to ride in tomorrow **** norm knight is the deputy director of the Johnson Space Center in Houston everything was ready to go and it turned out that it turned out very well we're very happy with that and and again looking forward to going forward Bob banking and Doug Hurley will be the first to ride aboard the so called space taxi the last humans to launch from U. S. soil were in twenty eleven tomorrow's launch is scheduled for just after four thirty PM
Religious Leaders React To Trump's Call To Reopen Houses Of Worship
"It is a milestone no one would have ever wanted to reach but on this Memorial Day weekend it is fast approaching one hundred thousand deaths in the U. S. to to cope with nineteen one of the highest risk places according to scientists who study the spread of the virus is in places of worship where people gather in an enclosed space for a significant amount of time despite having no authority to do it president trump declared houses of worship essential this past week and demanded that they re open to the faithful Minnesota announced yesterday churches will be allowed to hold services at twenty five percent capacity which joined now by Reverend Michael rae Matthews the deputy director of faith in action who says this is a mistake we've reached him in San Jose California welcome to the program thank you so much for having me so what did you think of president trump's announcement it was very alarming was very concerning for the past two months our communities of faith have been learning how to do the best we can to be communities of faith in the midst of this pandemic we've been thinking very carefully about not only how to be present to one another and how to make sure everyone's taking care of in this moment but also to prepare ourselves for a very thoughtful process of returning to our houses of worship in this announcement totally undercuts the efforts for us to provide thoughtful leadership there's been some reporting that president trump's response to this pandemic is caused his poll numbers to slip among white evangelicals which are his base what do you think he made this call especially since it's more theatrical than practical as he can't make houses of worship open and you can't force governors to relax health workers well it definitely seems that it is a move to appeal to a segment of our society that is anxious to return into have their rights recognized but we we can't play with people's lives we have to protect people's lives in this moment this announcement is a diversion from the thoughtful leadership of so many what are you hearing from your communities and and are you communicating with other faith leaders to advise them not to open and is there confusion so many of our clergy leaders across the country are pretty clear that the guidance that they're going to follow is going to be guided by their interaction in cooperation with local officials the collaboration with other faith partners and community institutions thoughtful prayer and discernment with members of their faith communities their congregations and it's not going to be made rashly or recklessly we have been organizing around making sure that black and brown communities are being highly impacted by the school but nineteen moment are protected in and that has meant that we spend all our time together in webinars a lot of time together in spaces where we're learning how to be present at this moment we surprised that religious institutions are now at the center of this political push and pull well there and been many times when religion has been used as a tool to divide and to create a kind of sensation we are super clear that that's not the role that we want to play in our society our communities are places where we find nurture and care where we find the where with all to make it through each day our communities of the places where we find the resources to be faithful people in society and we want to operate out of our own sense of agency and self determination to bring a strong and prophetic vision of beloved community to our society finally it is Sunday and I was wondering if you have any just words of comfort at this time four so many of us who are struggling at this difficult moment you know there's a story in the Christian scriptures where a Jesus speaking to a Samaritan and talking about you know where is the right place to worship and he says that the some point we're going to learn that it's not about where we worship that that will be called to worship in spirit and in truth this is a season where so many of us across our traditions and learning how to worship how to be faithful people in spirit and in truth and so this is a moment for us to be true to the ethic of love to be true to our commitment to cultivate beloved community be true to our commitments to protect lives and to make sure that everyone is taking care of Reverend Michael rae Matthews is the deputy director of faith in
What Is NASA's Astronaut Beach House?
"Astronauts are driven disciplined physically fit and trained to solve complex problems in high stakes situations. But of course sometimes they just want to get away from it all from the press the physicians and the rigors of flight prep. You've gotTa make time to sharpen the saw. But where on earth can these people find a little seclusion? Well M- since nineteen sixty. Three Nasr's kept a bungalow on the East Florida coast closed to the general public. It's been a welcome retreat for generations of astronauts barbecues and bottles signings are cherished pastimes at the hideaway so are fond farewells. Historically this was the last place where many space bound crews got to hang out with their families before launch. Here's the story of the Kennedy Space Center Beach House and Conference Center or the Beach House. For Short Florida. Nasa go a long way back in nineteen sixty one. It was decided that the agency would build a new launch center on Florida's Merritt Island which is technically a peninsula by the way other sites were considered including New Mexico's White Sands missile range. Where the first atomic bomb had been set off sixteen years prior proximity to the Atlantic Ocean gave Merritt Island a strategic advantage. Rockets launched there could streak across the ocean without disturbing populated areas. Latitude was another plus. Florida is reasonably close to the equator. Where Earth's rotation speed is at? Its fastest when you set off a rocket in the sunshine state. The vessel can save fuel by capitalizing on this principle. It's why Merritt Island is now the home of Kennedy Space Center SPACEPORT NASA. Wasn't the first group. Take an interest in this region however the US military had been testing missiles on nearby Cape Canaveral since nineteen forty nine and then came snowbirds education homes and other seaside properties sprouted like daisies and the postwar economy. One piece of real estate was a two story. Beach House constructed in nineteen sixty two really. It was just another wood framed building in the Neptune beach subdivision at first Nessa partnered up with the Army Corps of Engineers to buy the entire development in nineteen sixty three four. Thirty one thousand five hundred dollars which is a little more than two hundred sixty six thousand eight hundred dollars in today's money neighboring houses and the gas station were cleared away but this plain Jane cottage escaped. The wrecking ball situated on government owned land. The Beach House is well off the beaten path in his two thousand six memoir astronaut. Richard Mike Mullane said the place was as isolated as Mars originally called the astronaut training and rehabilitation building. It started out as a home away from home. A place where crew members could get some shut. Eye on overnight stays as the decades past the bungalow evolved into more of a hang out. Spot astronauts could drop by individually or as crew many also chose to take their spouses and families over by design though. This isn't the easiest spot to access the space shuttle veteran Robert Springer who flew missions in nineteen eighty nine and nineteen ninety recalled. The Hannah's crewmates used to borrow the key from an acid staff member. A spontaneous visits were not encouraged. Though a one day payload specialist Samuel Durant's waltzed over with some colleagues but forgot to give the administrators any advance notice on their way back. The group was met by Swat team and guests had to play by the house rules. For example young children were barred from the premises. During astronaut quarantine periods. The House has entertained. Its share of politicians and diplomats. And to this day it remains an active meeting place for government organizations but among. Space History Buffs. This mid-century is remembered first and foremost as an explorers waystation filled with the stories of its tenants. There was the time that springer and a crewmate winter a dip in the ocean only to be met by helicopter full frantically waving airmen. It turned out. The swimmers had gotten a little too close to an enormous gang of sharks unaware of the danger and oblivious to the warning. The astronauts waved back. Don't worry everything turned out fine. Prelaunch barbecues are traditional shortly before his space takes off. It's customary for them to gather with family members of the cottage for muscles and Colm Rotary. Sometimes the guests get dinner and a show former Kennedy space center. Deputy Director James A gene. Thomas witnessed a cause play prank at one of these beach parties. The mission being toasted that day was set to include Franklin Story Musgrave a legendary astronaut. Who happened to be bald just for kicks. The rest of his crew decided to impersonate. Mas Great at this barbecue so everyone showed up with rubber latex sheets on their heads and name tags that read. Hi I'm story. Another longstanding tradition at the Beach. House involves leaving. Your mark. Outgoing crew will sign a wine bottle before they blast off official mission logos usually adorned these mementos by now. Few decades worth of space. Flights have been chronicled on bottlenecks and wine labels now can cabinet display in two thousand sixteen hurricane. Matthew did a number on the bungalow necessitating massive repairs inside and out once. The kitchens bathrooms multiple walls. And most of the second floor had been overhauled. The cottage reopened on July twenty fifth of twenty eighteen. We reached out to the Kennedy Space Center. Which informed us that. The House is not currently being used by any astronaut crews. But who knows? Maybe that'll change in the near future. Nasa does want to quote. Put the first woman in next man on the moon or the twenty twenty four no doubt future occupants will feel mixed emotions at the old beach house most astronauts do along with their loved ones. Donnellan. Mike's wife said in two thousand ten interview with NASA as a spouse. You know you're coming out here to say goodbye and you don't know if it's the last time yet by many accounts. Fear intermingled with excitement from the bungalow visitors have gotten some spectacular views of eager rockets ships ready for launch gleaning from the nearby space center.
Coronavirus: Chinese official admits health system weaknesses
"A top Chinese health officials says the pandemic outbreak has exposed weaknesses in the country's health care system the BBC Celia Hatton reports it's rare for Chinese leaders to admit wrongdoing but when speaking to reporters the deputy director of China's national health commission Z. bian said the coronavirus tested China's governance and its public health systems he said the commission would fix the problems by centralizing IT systems and making better use of big data and artificial intelligence building on many of the leadership's longstanding objectives China has faced tough criticism domestically and abroad over its early handling of the virus several provincial and local officials from the ruling Communist Party happened sacks but no senior member of the party has been
Chinese official admits health system weaknesses
"A top Chinese health official says the corona virus outbreak has exposed weaknesses in China's healthcare system the BBC Celia Hatton reports it's an unusual public admission it's rare for Chinese leaders to admit wrongdoing but when speaking to reporters the deputy director of China's national health commission Z. bian said the coronavirus tested China's governance and its public health systems he said the commission would fix the problems by centralizing IT systems and making better use of big data and artificial intelligence building on many of the leadership's longstanding objectives China has faced tough criticism domestically and abroad over its early handling of the virus several provincial and local officials from the ruling Communist Party happened sacks but no senior member of the party has been
CBS News poll shows Elizabeth Warren is Democratic voters' top pick for vice president
"Is a recent CBS news poll and it finds it Massachusetts senator Elizabeth Warren tops the list of vice presidential picks for presumptive democratic nominee Joe Biden CBS news deputy director of surveys Jeff Jennifer de Pinto says seven out of ten democratic voters would like to see Warren as Biden's running mate Elizabeth Warren is on top of democratic voters wish list for presumptive nominee Joe Biden's pick as his vice presidential running mate more and also outpaces other possible VP picks by a wide margin Warren leads the polls at thirty six percent California senator Kamilla Harris comes in second at nineteen percent and Stacey Abrams is third at fourteen
Learning How to Forgive
"I don't subscribe to the idea people a- bad and I I don't subscribe to that because I believe that these inherent good in everyone. I think that crime It's all to be honest with you. Very relative What might be criminal in. Some communities are excused in other communities. Delia Muna was born in London and raised in Nigeria. Her mother is Nigerian and her father is from Sierra Leone. She went to college and Law School in the United States and then she became a public defender in Washington. Dc main motivation for me is that throughout my time as a public defender. I and as a Christian I operate from the presume that if Jesus swear on earth today he'd be a public defender. He was always defending people who were accused of various Nefarious activities Tax Collectors and you know Prostitutes and and and people that we will consider unsavory but as a public defender. I got to learn and appreciate that. Each person has a story and that my role as an advocate was to tell that story in a way that will shoot to the lead experiences to give voice to them I learned to appreciate the fact that but for the grace of God Right. and fat Human beings have the capacity for change today. We're talking about forgiveness. I'm phoebe judge. This is criminal I'd like to ask you about where you grew up in Nigeria and and how growing up. You saw forgiveness injustice Criminality in differently than than we do here right. So we're very very communal society and so compared to to the US where It seems that we exist in silos and a very much individual pull yourself up by your bootstraps sort of mentality in Nigeria we. It's sort of those mentality that if one person is going astray we all collectively are going astray. And so the idea is You know we rally people will rally around you to make sure that That you don't go astray and that if you do that there are resources particularly human resources to help you Sorta recalibrate Your life trajectory And that's really critically important. I guess it's kind of a flip the whole idea in on the head which is in other communities when someone does something bad it it looks bad upon the community. Exactly as opposed to here. Where if someone does something bad when this person must be intrinsically bad or evil and let's remove them from the society? Oh yes absolutely. You absolutely correct here. It's you did something you something that you did and in other communities. It's like well what? How did we fail? How could we have prevented this? And now that you have indeed some done something. What can we do to restore your humanity? What can we do to make sure that you become one of us The question becomes. When is enough enough? When is punishment enough? When can we say you have paid your dues? It's time to welcome you back into society because we still think you've got value. We still think there's much more that you can add to being a productive member of our community in two thousand eleven a twenty five year old woman Nimble Shonda Armstrong drove her car. Into New York's Hudson River with her three children inside later. Leshan to Armstrong's neighbors came forward and said they knew she was in trouble. The often heard yelling. Her landlord leader said that she asked him twice in six months to change the locks on her doors. Delia Luna wrote about Louis Armstrong and other women who'd committed similar crimes she asks how is it that American society bears no social responsibility to support. Its most vulnerable members. In raising their children she proposes that we watch out for each other not just watch each other but really look out and offer help as she says communities in Nigeria. Often do she writes. It's imperative that the legal system take steps to foster a sense of communal obligation towards the most vulnerable members of our society single mothers and their children in two thousand fifteen delia. Muna was made clinical professor of law at Harvard. The law school's first Nigerian professor. She's also the deputy director of Harvard's Criminal Justice Institute where Third Year Law Students under supervision. Essentially work is public defenders. We asked her to tell us about the cases that stay with her the most and she says it's the ones where children are charged with crimes. She told us about representing a nine year old girl and she was charged with assault with a dangerous weapon and she was charged because while Throwing ten from classroom. She picked up a book a textbook and threw it at a teacher. Miss the teacher. The book hit the wall The child was promptly taken to a The principal's office and when she got there she was then arrested put in handcuffs. She was transported at the back of a police car and brought to the courthouse. She had to be placed in isolation so in solitary because she was nine years old and I went into speak with her so she is tiny little person and I was trying to explain to her. What my role was as her attorney and advocate and she had no idea Just even process in what that meant and she looked at me and she said where's my grandmother. And when can she take me back to school and then she said to me? Do you have any food? I'm hungry and so there. I was trying to figure out how to advocate for this child. In light of the very serious thing that she'd been charged with I mean assault with a dangerous weapon. book But clearly this child at other issues that we're contributing to Her behavior in class that day and he really will have been a very cruel and capricious thing for the legal system to continue. Its prosecution of her. It's easy to forgive a child and to consider all the social factors in play in their behavior. It's not always so easy to forgive adult. Well that's correct I it's easy when you paint a picture of a very vulnerable child but what about those evil adults and evil men and women who do such terrible things well. The truth is A An an an evil adult or terrible adult just didn't You know pop from just didn't become that way. They've had most likely a terrible childhood A childhood where they will likely abused likely neglected. And so you have children who wants. That's happened to them will indeed grow up to be adults who then Commit crimes I don't ever believe that an adult just takes actions without something being the catalyst for whatever it is. They that they've done and so it might be easier to forgive a child but if you delve deeper into the experiences the lived experience of an adult I think it makes it easier to forgive them once. You understand what it is that they've been through The prism through which they view life and sort of. What's happened to them?
Child abuse cases go unreported amid pandemic
"Morning and we're being told to stay home for everyone's safety but the home is not always a safe place reports of domestic violence are on the rise calls to child abuse hotlines though are down nationally and KCBS is Kathy Novak reports there are concerns for kids who can't speak up for themselves Scott Parker spent half her life in foster care when we were ordered to stay home she immediately worried about vulnerable kids they don't always have that big person voice and it's difficult in these situations where they're not going to school where people are seeing them and they can see that Bruce or they can't see that child that has fallen asleep at their desk she's right says John Miller we're very worried about what's happening out there with kids she San Francisco's deputy director of family and child services called the hotline have gone down because a majority of our calls would come from mandated reporters in court and child care one of the challenges her staffer navigating as they shift to managing cases remotely and adjusting family visits to care givers do not want to let kids out of their home wanted is it because they don't know what they'll come into contact with and bring back home so we have to work with that most visits in San Francisco have gone virtual Jennifer Rexrode of the California alliance of care givers says in different counties arrangements are generally on a case by case basis as you can imagine virtual visits are much easier for older children who are able to interact three and under gets to be pretty difficult because their attention span isn't very long and not everyone can access tech to visit virtually making an already layered set of challenges more complicated children and youth in foster care typically have greater and more complex needs than the typical child we know that they have injured trauma and being separated from their family of origin at the very least and often they have suffered much more the governor announced forty two million dollars in funding including for social worker out reach the Balkans for payments to those in the system to help birth families stay together all this during child abuse prevention month more than ever John Miller is really calling on the community to stay aware and you know if you see something say something former foster child scout Parker says that goes for kids living with birth families and with foster families she's a foster and adoptive parent herself now we are all human and we should all be working together and all be looking out for our behavior and the first priority of us as adults is to respect children and to keep
"deputy director" Discussed on Intelligence Matters
"By Lockheed Martin. Your mission is ours. We can't get through this in my personal opinion without a fairly transparent and cooperative relationship with China amid the distinguishing feature of this virus is that it requires a global response because it doesn't have any boundaries unless we work together on this We're not GONNA be able to to to beat it in the efficient manner so it matters as a matter of confidence in dealing with China that we understand its origins. You need leadership. Someone has to lead it. I don't see any country capable of leading at other than the United States for a couple of reasons first. Everyone looks to us even when they criticize us. One thing I learned in my career was people want. Us leadership even when they don't want it and yet we're we're not at the moment really postured to do that. I don't WanNa get overly political but the truth of it is our current administration has pulled out of just about every multilateral institution that could be a foundation for global leadership. If we're not going to lead does I don't think the Chinese can lead. They do not have our soft power meaning the universal identification with culture and values that people have when they look to the United States. John McLaughlin is a former deputy director and acting director of the Central Intelligence Agency. He was a career analyst and before he served as deputy director he led the thousands of analysts who work at the agency today. He is a senior fellow and distinguished practitioner in residence at Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies. Here in Washington DC. I just sat down with John to talk about the national security implications of the corona virus outbreak. John Welcome welcome to intelligence matters in fact. Welcome back to intelligence matters. Thank you Michael. Great to be with you so this is the second time that you've been on the show. The first time was may two thousand eighteen in fact it was late. May It was around Memorial Day and You'll remember that we talked about the organization the CIA officers Memorial Fund that was created after nine eleven to take care of the families of CIA officers who were lost in the line of duty and I would encourage our listeners. That if you haven't listened to that episode. You should go back and do so. It's one of my favorite episodes. I also want to let people know that that were. We're in the midst of a series of episodes on the implications of Corona virus. Oh we started with Dr David Egas A CBS news medical contributor to talk about the virus itself And what we know and what we don't know and last week we had LISA MONACO TALKING. About how a White House how a government should manage this sort of thing and today we have you John to talk about the national security implications and I mentioned to you that that in an email that I have a lot of questions about specific issues ranging from strategic competition with China and and potential political instability an important countries in all sorts of things. But I'd like to start by asking you if you have any kind of broad cross cutting thoughts at this point about what the implications with the kind of long term implications of this might be for the world an international affairs national security etc. Well a couple of things Michael you know. I think you have to begin with something that I would not normally begin with and that is Something that you and I will be familiar with from our time in our former profession where we always would wanna know at the very beginning. What is it? We don't know about something and I think we're struggling a bit with the fact that there are more uncertainties about this situation than we typically have. You may have been through some of them with the medical expert but obviously it bears repeating that. We don't know yet whether this is a seasonal phenomenon year round phenomenon whether we'll have a second wave or a third wave we don't know yet when will get a vaccine. That's the second thing people are. You're eighteen months. Perhaps we don't really know the origins of it a lot of controversy about that so you have to start by saying there are many unknowns. Here that What we say about the longer term consequences are inevitably subject to revision in speculate. That said Some things are fairly obvious. there's a drop in output in the world To the point where I think. Most economists are now projecting a fairly serious plunging and growth next year. I've seen estimates as high as twelve percent. Plunge in growth When people were expecting really a rather smooth economy globally for the next year In other thing that's been going on for a long period of time and that has been highlighted in some even intelligence. Publications is a kind of global how to put it a kind of global dissatisfaction with government which we see in different arenas in countries That's probably going to increase as a result of this because most countries are looking at their response to this and questioning whether their systems are are performing as they should be there's also You know another big huge issue. Globally as simply demographic change the world's GonNa hit something like eight point three eight point four billion people in a couple of decades Urbanism is increasing sixty. Five percent. Is what most people are expecting in a couple of decades sixty five percent of people living in cities so it's already a very urban globe if five percent or so of the population of the world in cities that that means that it is another way in which this is going to be. Hard to combat because social distancing is pretty easy where? I'm living right now in Virginia but it's awfully hard in a place like Karachi or Cairo so there's that global order. How do we think about global order well global order essentially boils down to rules institutions? Borders things like that This thing presents a challenge to global order in ways that we hadn't really considered previously on multiple levels. Let's just take something like Maritime Rules Challenges. Everyone knows about China's challenge in the South China Sea and east China Sea and so forth. But it's kind of striking that at this point in the Pacific. I think we have really no carriers operating one is the Roosevelt which is out of commission because of the outbreak there. Another one is in maintenance and another one is on quarantine and so at this point. China has the only aircraft carrier operating in that region. Isn't that something that's that in itself is kind of emblematic of how it has affected the US ability to Project Power Defense Department will say that they're up to any mission and so forth and that's kind of what we expect of them in what they typically say but in truth I think Our our ability to project power is somewhat limited and then on this whole issue of global order obviously a China and Russia opportunities here to increase their influence around the world even as they struggle with the consequences of this virus for them so one could go on about the broader strategic challenges and the global challenges. This just the supply network that's interrupted in multiple ways this medical supplies in our economy the global economy as an economist. You know better than anyone that the economy wobbly works well with things are unimpeded and moving freely but the viruses contracted like a maybe like a circuit breaker in terms of Breaking the flow of goods in an environment where Almost everything is a product of multinational contribution from the iphone to automobiles to the medicines that we take one of the struggles right now. Being of course that many of the components for what we need to do testing happened to come from China. Eighty to ninety percent of our antibiotics come from China most generic drugs sixty seventy percent are made in India but they get many of their components from China and because everyone needs these things and because other things or repeating the flow of goods That's also off balance. At this point. I should stop there because the global implications of this are almost beyond imagining johnny. Pick up on a couple of things that you said in. The first is the growing dissatisfaction that you mentioned with regard to how populations might be seeing their governments In terms of how they're dealing with the outbreak itself how they're dealing with the economic consequences and so I'm wondering you know sort of after the fact as people are allowed to or people feel comfortable going back out into the streets if we're GONNA see calls for political change in a number of countries calls for political change. That could even become violent. How do you react to that? I'm not thinking so much violence. I'm thinking more matter of diminished. Trust in government. Nino if you look at a China for example and it's always hard for us to imagine any really consequential discontinuity in China people tend to think China will be. China will continue being the way they are. Well you know it's it's now pretty obvious that China waited six seven days a week or so before. They informed the population that they had a serious problem. That's come out in some leaked documents that have appeared in the media It's also obvious that reported that China is restricting publication of research that has been done in China on the origins and development and spread of of the virus. So given that China already has a problem with Hong Kong feeling Oppressed and speaking out about it and given that Taiwan handle this a lot more skillfully than mainland China. Did you can imagine. In the aftermath of this that there will be some Strong discontent in China about how the government handled all of this in our own country a survey by the Pew Organization Reliable Public Opinion. Surveyor If you went back to nineteen sixty four seventy five. Seventy six percent of Americans said they trusted the American government to do the right thing. That's now down to seventeen percent. That's worker rotavirus before corona virus. So you start off with in the United States as a kind of diminish trust in government that has built over a long period of time and You know you just have to watch the news every day to realize that. We're we're at a moment here where I think. The average citizen has not quite sure what to believe about everything for masks to The availability of testing look at Russia. It's clear Putin is trying to stay out of public sight and delegating. Most of the public decisions on this to his advisors is spokespeople when the mayor of Moscow and so forth. This is not something he wants to be particularly associated with As the responsible authority.
Proposed Coronavirus tracking program asks Congress for $3.6B to hire workers
"The new Johns Hopkins proposal aimed at putting an aggressive contact tracing program in place to help isolate the sick as well as those who have been exposed to the corona virus it's a way of getting ahead of the virus rather than always chasing it I need a Cicero deputy director at the Johns Hopkins center for health security says her department's plan outlines the need for increased tracing of the contacts that corona virus patients make we know how to do this but the problem is that public health doesn't have enough people or resources now to trace all the contacts that are necessary the proposal asks Congress to include three point six billion dollars in the fourth stimulus package to hire a hundred thousand health workers for a national program the public health workers will call in ask the patient to the came in close contact with so that those people could be quarantined and monitored Valerie bonk WTOP
Eyes on the Virus: The View from the CDC
"Is working around the clock to produce and stand out more test. That's what the CDC has recommended you know how many CDC is administered these days the Centers for Disease Control and prevention also known as the CDC is probably the most recognized institution managing the Corona Virus Pandemic. They're the ones offering guidelines on symptoms travel and prevention. He might have already been to their website. Given the level of fear and confusion surrounding this pandemic I wanted to talk to one of the. Cdc's top leaders and get answers to some of your biggest questions. I'm Dr Sanjay Gupta. Cnn's chief medical correspondent and this is corona virus fact versus fiction. The American public really needs to steady ourselves for a long haul here. This may be more disruptive than other outbreaks. We've been through. Dr Ranch shook. It is the principal. Deputy Director of the. Cdc This is not her first Rodeo. She's been with the CDC FOR OVER THIRTY YEARS MANAGING RESPONSES TO H One n one SARS and Ebola. I've spent a lot of time with her out in the field. I know we've already talked about the movie contagion but remember Kate. Winslet's character the virus hunter. She was modeled after. Dr Shook it. I asked her if she knows anyone. Personally who has contracted the corona virus? No not yet. But you know the epidemiology that we're seeing suggests that all of us are GonNa know someone you are the principal deputy director of the CDC talk us through a typical day for you now. Typical Day doesn't exist to every day is a new adventure But you know we're taking this really seriously for the past several months and so my days start early and they go late and they involve many calls. After I do get home we have over fifteen hundred. Cdc staff involved in the response so my day is always interesting and always challenging and involves connecting with people around the country the states and local public health. Who are on the frontline. You have worked on lots of pandemics and outbreaks in the past. Have you ever seen a response of this magnitude? The National Guard now just deployed to new. Rochelle all that. We're seeing around the country. The extent of this outbreak in the United States and around the world is is serious I was in in Beijing in two thousand three during the SARS outbreak and I saw firsthand Society really stopped I think we all saw that on. Tv when we saw Wuhan China and then who bay province literally shut down. I think each community will be making some decisions about what's the best strategy for their environment. Cdc's working closely with the state and local public health authorities to provide guidance and advice. I have seen some pretty dramatic interventions in my experience I actually was also in West Africa during Bola but I think for Americans. This is quite surprising and stunning in some of the communities. There's been a lot of news about testing and I WANNA ask you some specific questions about that but I just give me your your taken. Hell has the United States done with regard to testing compared to other countries in the world. The rollout of the laboratory testing to the public health system didn't go as quickly and smoothly as we usually see. We had hoped to be able to skill up the testing at the public health. Labs states and cities earlier than we were able to so that was a bit delayed in most of the country the commercial sector really was slow to take this on and scale up and what we saw in a couple of other countries was rapid. Scale UP OF TESTING. I would say that the jury's out about exactly what's the best way to roll out testing? I've heard from colleagues and other countries about concern that there was so much testing going on of people with no symptoms and people who really were not at risk that it clogged up the healthcare system. So I think right now. We're seeing you know we've done more than eleven thousand tests. I believe between CDC in the state and local public health labs now and the commercial labs are just coming online right now. So I think it's going to be important to use them but I know what the American public to get the impression that the right thing is for every single person who wants a test to get tested that could have negative consequences both for the healthcare system in the testing ability for everyone who really needs it right now if somebody is concerned because they have symptoms. They don't seem to have the flu. Maybe they came in contact with somebody with the corona virus as things stand now dr shook. At how easy would it be for that person to get tested? Well I think an important thing is to be connected with the healthcare system to figure out if you need testing you know. It may not be the best thing to go into a clinic and ask about that. It may be better to call. I would say that based on what I've seen so far and learned about this virus. The average person who's young and healthy without underlying conditions like heart disease lung disease kidney disease diabetes who develops cough and fever can probably stay home and Essentially self isolate until they feel better and Doesn't really need a test. Over the course of the weeks or months ahead there may be so many people with these symptoms that testing individual ones may not be as efficient and we really need to shift into the community interventions. And not the one on one or the the man to man you know. We need to move to the zone approach. It sounds like what you're saying. At some point there is going to be this acknowledgement that the virus is spreading in the community and testing every individual given that. You're not gonNA do anything different. Based on the result that testing may not make much sense. But we're not there yet right. I mean we. We still need to get an of how widespread this is in the United States. And it seems like we don't really know the answer to that question right There are a couple approaches to get an understanding of how widespread this is. So you know. We have a number of systems that we use to track a seasonal influenza and those systems are being adapted to also track cove nineteen but another of the systems that we're using as our hospital surveillance that looks at Individuals who are hospitalized for infectious respiratory disease who get influenza testing or adding the coveted nineteen testing for those individuals. So I think we're GONNA have the broad perspective of where things are going and how bad this is with some of these systems so essentially outpatients in patients critical care and also fatalities will all be tracked the way that we track for flu. But we'll be adding in the Cova testing and we're just beginning to get. Those systems rolled out in different areas. One of the questions. I get a lot Dr shook it. I'm sure you do as well has to do with schools We do see that. There are school closings and the United States. And I wonder if you think that's warranted. If that's really going to be of benefit we know that children are very important in the transmission or spread of many respiratory viruses but for the covert nineteen disease. We don't know that children are an important part of the transmission dynamics. We haven't seen that yet. That said school dismissals or school. Closures may be warranted for certain situations for instance a case in a school may appropriately prompt dismissals for cleaning. That's you know dismissals. For just a day or two so sufficient cleaning of the environment can happen. There may be schools that serve a high risk population special needs kids who have many medical problems or have staff or faculty where there's a high percentage of people who are at risk for severe complications. Those types of facilities may need to want to alter their their procedures to be able to protect the vulnerable Schools May in the weeks or months ahead experienced high absentee rates where it's really not feasible to keep the school open but we know that closing a school has a lot of unintended consequences Many times it means parents have to stay home Because their kids are home and those workplaces the parents go to. We'll have unexpected high absenteeism. We know also that A high percentage of American children depend on schools for lunch and for meals. And so What we really want schools to be doing now and communities to be doing is to think through if we do end up needing to close a school for a shorter learn longtime or needing to dismiss students for shorter longtime. What can we get ready to go? That will help. Kids be able to learn while they're home. People who need to be fed be be able to be fed while the school was closed and You know making sure. There's good communication systems so that the community knows what to do when the school will reopen and so forth with Spring break next week. This is another question I get a lot. What is the guidance the? Cdc is giving on travel leaving aside international countries for. Why would you recommend people not travel this next week during spring break? We'll we think that People who are vulnerable those who are elderly with underlying conditions or those with series underlying conditions. Who aren't that elderly Should think twice about about travel. One of the issues is the uncertainty of where you're going and You know what the circumstances will be where you're going We also think that large gatherings you know these. These conferences that bring people together from all across the country. It's not necessarily that being at a conference itself is that Dangerous or being at a large event like in a one of the festival's but I think what we're concerned about. Is that individuals who come from across the country to a large event in then returned to you know fifty or a hundred different cities could bring that virus back into many communities and really speed up how this virus spreads across the country and a mass gathering is. How many people would you say you know? This is going to be variable. We've posted some recommendations on our website. They're called community mitigation strategies. Really what we call social distancing so there's not an absolute number for mass gathering you kind of know it when you see it. But if it's filled with high risk people or people like on a cruise ship where there's lots of high risk people and they're going to be going back to a million places and the shared environment is difficult to keep clean. Those are the kinds of settings that were concerned about. You know I've really been struck by the fact that most of the headlines make the point I think correctly that eighty percent or so of the people who are infected by this virus will recover and be okay but we have defined the vulnerable population as you've mentioned and I wonder for you know people who are in their seventies or eighties. Who are listening right now. People who may have an underlying condition the here this Dr shook it and for many of them. It feels like a death sentence. Just waiting to happen. How do you? How do you respond to them? Yeah every individual's different and there's not a a certain age cutoff or a certain disease that puts you at astronomically higher risk than someone else But there's things that everyone can do Higher Risk and lower risk certainly reducing the context that you have if you are in one of these high risk groups reducing the social exposures finding alternative ways to socialize whether it's by phone or online or video chats with loved ones making sure that you have you know supplies at home medicines at home So the most important things are to reduce those exposures and limit the chances that Joel contract the virus. Now if you do get the virus Most people Will Not have the severe outcomes is just the the risk for the elderly and those with underlying conditions is higher that you'll have those more complicated courses One of the reasons we're trying to slow the spread and really strengthen the healthcare system is so that if you do get infected and you do have a difficult pneumonia or a complicated course of the illness. We WanNa make sure that the healthcare system conserve you. Well one thing that people should know is that their clinical trials going on right now of new drugs that may be promising to reduce the seriousness of the infection. And I I hope that we'll have results of those in the next few months. We've all heard about vaccine studies. Those are going to take much longer but the therapy trials should have some results in the next few months. And that's the kind of thing that would be very helpful to know in the future and just finally stare into your crystal ball for a second. It's early March. How long do you think we're GONNA be talking about this? Well I think we need to be ready for this to be a problem for some time. Many respiratory viruses have a season -ality more disease in the winter and spring less in the summer But YOU. You will recall that with influenza in two thousand nine. When in very new influenza pandemic strain emerged we had disease during the summer to. It didn't go away completely. We had large outbreaks in summer camps and so forth. That was a virus where schoolchildren were really important and it may have been that the summer break from school reduced the circulation and then soon as kids went back to school. We saw a big increase again in the fall. I have to say. We're preparing for a response that lasts months and I think if this virus turns out to be one that sticks with us as a I in terms of humans until we have high levels of immunity either because so many people had mild infection and got protected or because we have a vaccine. We may need to be ready to deal with this virus for years and I think the systems that have led us down or been less robust than we had wanted are going to be critical for us to invest in and to make sure that we do better during this response and that we do even better for the next
Timothy Cole, rector of Washington, D.C., church, tests positive for coronavirus
"Hundreds of people are now being told to self quarantine after possible exposure to the rector of the DC church who tested positive for coronavirus today mayor Muriel Bowser announced anyone who attended Christ Church Georgetown on February twenty fourth or between February twenty eighth and March third most self quarantine at home for at least fourteen days since the last time they visited the church DC health has been in communication with the church and has been reaching out to congregants the risk of exposure for several hundred people who attended the church is considered medium or talk about close contacts it is a person who is within six feet of a positive case who is having symptoms Dr Anjali tall Walker senior deputy director with DC help it also could mean close contact with a secretion congregates who do not have symptoms but want more information should contact DC health or their health care
Judge criticizes Barr for "lack of candor" in summaries of Mueller report
"A federal judge's questioning Attorney General Barr's handling of the Mahler reporting court filings Thursday the judge wrote the bar had a lack of candor and claimed bars public comments about the mother report were misleading compared to the findings of the redacted version of the report due to those discrepancies judge Walton said he would be reviewing the unredacted Muller reports to determine if the department of justice's redactions were appropriate a spokesman for bars not spoken publicly about the matter Walton previously lambasted justice department attorneys in a separate lawsuit for what he called disturbing handling of the investigation of former FBI deputy director Andrew
Trump appoints Pence to lead virus response as U.S. confirms its first case of unknown origin
"The president's during the White House briefing room yesterday to announce a new approach to the virus. Several health officials joined him. C. D. C. Deputy Director and shoot. It said the United States should expect some troubling news. Hour aggressive containment strategy here in the United States has been working and is responsible for the low levels of cases that we have so far however we do expect more cases and shortly after that press conference in new mysterious case of Corona virus was announced in California and that's where I want to begin with. Npr Health correspondent Rob Stein hither rob either. Okay let's talk about this new case here in California and what the significance of it could be yes so the CDC right after this briefing ended last night reported that someone who in California who doesn't appear to travel to any country where the virus is spreading exposed. Anyone who might have caught the virus overseas had tested positive for the virus. That means this could be the first instance in the United States of what officials call community spread. You know in other words. They caught the virus in this country with no connection to any other country that could have spread here. There's been sixteen reported cases of Corona virus in this country. Far all the other cases have been people card in China or on that cruise ship except for two close relatives of two of those people brought back from China. So this would be very concerning. You know because it's exactly what health officials have been worried might start happening that the virus could start spreading in this country now the CDC says it can't completely rule out that this person might have had some contact with traveler. They don't know about but so far. That doesn't seem to be the case. Okay well then the question on all of our minds of course is what do we know about this person and how the person may have gotten the virus if not through someone abroad? He S O California health officials. Say the person lives in Solano County north of San Francisco and that this person is receiving care at the Ucla Medical Center and according to the hospital. The patient was transferred there from another medical center and doctors suspected the patient might have covert nineteenth. Is Diseased Causes but since the patient didn't meet all the criteria for the corner virus they weren't immediately tested by the CDC. And in the meantime the hospital has treated other patients with farces like this so took all the necessary precautions to protect doctors nurses but after this patient did finally test positive the hospital as a small number of hospital workers to stay home and monitor themselves. Okay so so. This could be the beginning of what's known as community spread in the United States. Although it sounds like there's some uncertainty here but that obviously raises the question of how prepared we are in this country to deal with the corona virus. What what did you feel like you learned from the trump administration when the president and others talked about the approach yesterday? Yes so the president you know. He took a very kind of low key. Approach to this was tried to be very reassuring saying you know. Things are under control But the president announced that Vice President Mike Pence would be taking over in charge of coordinating the nation's response to the outbreak until now Health and Human Services Secretary Acts as our has been chairing the corona virus taskforce. Now he'll stay in that role but trump says he picked pens because of his experience handling healthcare issues especially when he was governor of Indiana and that he will hopefully help coordinate phys across government agencies including like the transportation and education department's NPR health correspondent. Rothstein rub thanks so much. You Bet David now. The administration is facing scrutiny as concerns increase over the spread of Corona virus in the US reporters asked the president yesterday. Why he seems to be contradicting centers for disease control officials who say the corona virus outbreak. Here is only a matter of time. Here was the president's response. I don't think I have. They've said it could be worse than I've said it could be less to. I also take. I don't think it's inevitable. All right I wanNA bring an NPR senior political correspondent Domenica Montinaro. Who's been following the president's response here? D'amico either David Okay. So this could be a big moment for the president if indeed this virus spreads and American start looking for for some level of reassurance and confidence. Oh definitely I mean you know. The president's gotten a lot of criticism for this confused messaging before this on krona virus she had the CDC sounding the alarm. They're saying that the spread was inevitable. You had trump downplaying this and really in a lot of these situations. I mean I kind of think of it as being on a plane and facing turbulence and urine stormy weather. You want the pilot to be calm by. Everything's okay but no but also serious and telling you to take your seats right input safety belts on and make sure everyone does it. You know the president because of his tweeting in his own personal volatility. That makes it difficult. And there's a lot of people who are never going to trust him as their pilot but that's partially probably why. He decided to put Mike Pence there. Because he's such a controlled messenger and for the most part trump during that press conference got out of the way of Public Health Officials. And even swatted down some potential conspiracy theories about whether the CDC was trying to inflate numbers or the risk to hurt his reelection. Okay so maybe. He's putting pence there because people have more confident. I mean it also sounds like pence has experience as governor with healthcare. That may put them in a good position to respond to that. What is what is that experience. Well you know. The thing is though Mike Pence is very controversial. Pick to put here. There was an outbreak in two thousand fifteen of HIV in his home. State among intravenous drug users that is really causing a lot of critics to look at this and say they raised some eyebrows. Wonder if this is the smartest person that put their at one point according to USA. Today the number of people who had contracted HIV in one rural county exceeded the number of people infected with HIV through injection drug use in New York City the entire previous year while the CDC another health officials urged making clean needles available but but state law and pence Moral opposition really initially prevented that two months after the outbreak began. He said he was going to go home. Prey on it two days later he finally issued an executive order to make those clean needles available. So look he's not a scientist and I think that's one thing that a lot of people are nervous about if this does spread and Democrats which would say already critical of the president response here. Definitely they want him to ask for more money from Congress. Trump said fine. If that's what you want and trump look said the stock market may have gone down but it's Democratic presidential candidates fault too which is really controversial thing to say.
Nearly two-thirds of voters expect Trump to win reelection in November, poll finds
"A lot CBS news poll out Sunday finds sixty five percent of registered voters think the incumbent will be reelected Jennifer depend toe is deputy director of surveys for CBS news was Carless of whether or not they are voting for him sixty five percent of registered voters nationwide thank president trump will definitely or probably be reelected in November and this includes more than a third of Democrats Republicans are especially optimistic about trump's reelection prospects more than nine in ten expectant to win
Harvard Professor's Arrest Raises Questions About Scientific Openness
"So it's May of Twenty fifteen. And a researcher named Chichaou. Shing is at his home near Philadelphia. She is a physicist at Temple University who studies SUPERCONDUCTIVITY SPECIAL MATERIALS. That can sometimes lead electricity flow through them with no resistance. There's a ton of applications for it and all of a sudden there's a knock door very very loud and urgency rental open the learns Esau arm agents outside and pointing their guns to my wife and daughters into an Tokyo in Hong Cups and I had absolutely no idea why okay. So why was he arrested? Like what was going on what the. Us government accused him of sharing a special piece of equipment with researchers in China. But here's the thing he did. Do it prosecutors. Were confused because well it turns out. Superconducting technology is just really complicated. But what about the idea that he was helping? The Chinese developed superconducting technology. Just in general. Well Dr she says sure. He works with scientists in China all the time and sometimes he spent summers over there doing research with them. But as you know Mattie one of the basic pillars of fundamental research is openness nothing. He shared was classified or restricted in any way. Qadam ICK espionage. It's a contradiction me. Everything we are doing is fundamental research. There's nothing to steal can. Just sit there and read your paper and sure enough about six months after this whole thing starts. The charges are dropped against doctor she. The government admits he's done absolutely nothing. Wrong I mean honestly it sounds like he just had collaborators which is like a major thing in science unless there was some weird money. Thing being exchanged or going on this is what scientists do. Yeah I mean. They're technologies that are restricted for example stuff to do with rockets that could be used in missile development say. The government has very strict rules about sharing that kind of information but generally scientists open collaborations. Happened all over the world. The thing is China is getting a lot more scrutiny. These days so fast forward to twenty eighteen attorney general. Jeff sessions is really concerned about the theft of scientific knowledge and intellectual property by the Chinese so the Justice Department launches what it calls its China initiative the goal is to crack down on the transfer of US knowledge to China and in the academic community the focus. False really quickly. I'm one program in particular. It's called the thousand Talents Plan. So our understanding is that originally. The purpose of the thousand talents program was to reverse the brain drain. That's Michael Lower. He's deputy director of extramural research at the National Institutes of health. And he's the main guy at NIH dealing with thousand talents. When he says brain-drain an example of that is like scientists. Go abroad to study and then end up staying in whatever country instead of coming back home. Exactly the Chinese government wanted to bring back outstanding scientists to China so as to develop their science and technology and the way the Chinese government does is by offering money so researchers set up labs in China and they spend at least part of their year over there Doing their work in exchange for grants and expenses paid and the program grew pretty quickly to include non-chinese scientists as well right and I think there are these kinds of programs in other countries to yeah. It's not uncommon. Canada had something called the one hundred fifty research chairs. I mean. That's kind of the less ambitious Canadian equivalent. Chevy Sega but with lower says is the thousand talents program has gone too far in the real problem from his perspective is that in a number of cases researchers are not telling their home universities or the. Us government for that matter about Chinese funding and not disclosing that Chinese funding. That's what's actually against the law. Exactly the types of behaviors that we are seeing are not subtle or minor violations What we're seeing is really quite egregious and that brings us back to Charles Lieber. The Harvard Chemist We were talking about earlier. Who is arrested back in January the complaint alleges Doctor Lieber signed a contract with the Chinese University in Wuhan and was paid to fifty thousand dollars per month plus up to one hundred and fifty eight thousand dollars in living expenses and awarded more than one point five million dollars to set up a research lab at the Chinese school and work there on researching nanotechnology that is a lot of money. Jeff that is like ten post docs full of money. At least I love that. Your brain calculates prices in post is seen but the bottom line is. It is a lot of money in the criminal complaint. Alleges not only did he get all this money. Lieber lied about being part of the program to Harvard to the NIH in the Department of Defense. Which together we're also giving him many millions of dollars in research money. I should say Lieber attorneys declined to comment about this case. They didn't WanNa speak to me but Mike clower from the NIH says there's a larger pattern here other scientists have done the same and it's a real problem. Collaboration does not involve offshore offshore bank accounts. collaboration does involve undisclosed cash payments. It does not involve undisclosed employment agreements or undisclosed contracts. It does not involve double dipping. Where a person is being paid salary to work in China and to work in the United States at the same time several scientists and other institutions have been fired over this he says the NIH is currently investigating around one hundred eighty other scientists. He thinks this is a systemic problem. So if these cases involve lying failing to disclose information which we do know is against the law. Why are scientists doing this? It's a really interesting question and I don't have a great answer as I said. Liebers attorneys have declined to speak to me In other cases other scientists who've been fired don't talk to the press generally now lower says. In some cases the thousand talents contracts scientists sign actually come with a nondisclosure agreements. So they're actually told by the Chinese not to say anything which is illegal but there's also more going on I mean it may be then some cases they fear if they disclose money from the Chinese. They are going to get more scrutiny on their work and then something else to consider is the possibility of just plain old greed the criminal complaint against Charles Lieber alleges and I should say alleged here that he was receiving cash payments from the Chinese. That some of this money was just coming straight up cash. Okay so the sounds problematic for sure but is it espionage. Maybe I have like an outdated old timey spy version of espionage but it doesn't necessarily feel like that to me no I mean. It isn't really espionage. I think it's really important to say that. Lieber isn't technically being accused of espionage. The government this is about the money and I think it's very telling the US government's going after the money rather than transfers of technology like you remember that superconducting case earlier. It's really hard to tell of. Someone's doing something illegal when they're collaborating scientifically and that's also got some people wondering whether these sorts of cases really deserve criminal treatment so frank who is somebody I spoke to. He's a professor at the University of California Hastings College of Law and he tracks these espionage cases and says arresting people for issues around what they disclosed for their grants. It just feels heavy handed to him zone. The past if there was a problem somebody would talk to you. Maybe you would face disciplined from your employer but you wouldn't face being fired and going to prison and having your name dragged through the mud as a spy in fact the same day. Lieber was arrested the Justice Department announced the arrest of two Chinese nationals. They say had lied on visa. Applications and illegally transferred biological samples. These aren't exactly the same kind of case. But you know it's the same general flavor. It sounds like a lot of people who have been accused are Chinese nationals or ethnically Chinese. Does we think that racism plays a role in this well would midst. There are some real espionage cases that involve Chinese people and they have been convicted. But they're sort of larger tone around all this. It sounds very familiar to him. No matter how assimilated. You are no matter how much you think yourself. I'm an American just like any other American winner of Chinese background. There's that risk always that people will look at you and suspect you're actually communist agent now. I should say. Us officials categorically denied. This has anything to do with race. I interviewed Andrew Leveling the federal prosecutor. Who ARRESTED LIEBER? And he said this if it was the French governments that was attempting to steal. Us technology in a massive decadelong campaign. We'd look for French people. But it's not it's the Chinese government and he actually points to the Lieber case as an example of how they're willing to prosecute anyone they think is broken the law by lying but even if the government doesn't think it's racial profiling it's definitely having an effect on the Chinese research. Community your remember. Chichaou shing the researcher who was falsely accused that we talked about well. I asked him. Does he still work with colleagues? In China. The short answer is yes but the more Ah Longer answer. Is that to my research. Now is much much smaller than used to be. And that's because he doesn't want to apply for federal grants anymore. He's afraid he'll do something wrong so every time I do all this conflict of interest floor alright to all these Grant applications and check boxes and also I I I I shake I I. I'm scared that if anything I didn't do exactly accurately I could be in
"deputy director" Discussed on Unchained
"I guess for today our dog deputy director of the monetary and capital markets gets apartment of the i._m._f. And yen lu assistant general counsel at the legal department of the i._m._f. Welcome on yen thank you. Let's start with a basic question. What does the i._m._f. Do oh okay so that's <hes> that's easy one. I think the international international monetary fund is basically a multinational organization. <hes> we are member based organization. We have one hundred eighty nine members consisting the government government of the countries <hes> we promote international financial and monetary stability so that's basically basically <hes> the function of the i we were founded in nineteen forty four so we're going to celebrate the seventy fifth anniversary this year actually is as part of the bretton grete who would system and there's one thing i want to add which is before the show dong yen explained to me that the views expressed during this interview are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of the i._m._f. So if part of the mission of the i._m._f. Is to ensure the stability ability of the international monetary system. How has the advent of blockchain technology in cryptocurrencies affected the i._m._f. Activities thus far well <hes> in this is an exciting time. We're seeing a lot of <hes> changes in the technology space <hes> i wouldn't say it has changed. Install our work so far but you know we're interested in understanding wanted. These technologies are implications for the financial system of concealing but in our member countries and eventually how that's going to affect the international monetary landscape <hes> so i think this is just the beginning and we are still in the learning motz who are very interested in the issues that are going to that. I go into shape the finish your systems across colo-. I just want to add things many of our countries. Member countries are interesting this issue and we are you know <hes> obligated. Did you know sense to really understand equally occasions so that we can provide quality advice and technical assistance to our member countries in this area. I yeah i actually wanted to ask a little bit more about thought yen because the main ways in which <hes> the i._m._f. Works with the member countries. I believe is <hes> through the central banks and so let's before we get even more into blockchain technologies season digital currencies. Can you just explain what the main ways are in which central banks can influence the economies of their countries. I i think well there are cars central banks <hes> but in terms of our mandate we look beyond just what central bank you know banks do do you also look at a country's overall economic policies and also what their financial sector policies to make sure that you know <hes> overall overall the global international system or global financial stability will be maintained so we we are engaging.
"deputy director" Discussed on C-SPAN Radio
"Call me leaked he lied about it in congress mccabe lied to the fbi are same as general flynn the fis the court was never told that hillary paid for the dossier this was during a presidential campaign more materially defies the corpus never told the michael steele was fired by the fbi for lying to the fbi steel was a very incredible source hillary clinton and the fbi we're dealing with russia and that's where they got their dirt for their entire conversation between donald trump and foreign leaders have been leaked to the press michael flynn was unmasked laugh i think we got the idea james clapper a lot of dots there that need to be connected as deny which was drawn on a lot of other sources that we had great confidence in foreign intelligence surveillance court authorizations are typically normally very rigorous process with a lot of documentation and typically they don't necessarily ride on on just in this case one source of information i was speak only to my experience with andrew mccabe when he served as both head of the washington what's called the washington field office which is the fbi local office and then when he became deputy director of the fbi and i thought andy was great did a great job and i found him to be a man of high integrity i don't know about the specifics of what ensued after that unmasking another term that comes up frequently and this is in the effort to try to protect identity of us persons when us persons engage with valid foreign intelligence target and that activity is reported on there are minimization procedures which require that the density of those yours persons be mask and they're typically described in these reports as us person one us person to person three if you see these reports and you want to and you need to understand the context and certainly i did unmasking for the whole six and a half years i was deny so i can understand the context or try to understand the context what was going on between that us person and a valid foreign intelligence target and that's that's the key point i'm sure i haven't covered all those points that's brought up a lot but the ones i could jot down there the richard rodgers tweets in mr.
"deputy director" Discussed on KVNT Valley News Talk
"Wow ken barkley deputy director with the matsu borough says the one death was caused definitely by dui wow upside down other one was blocked from view viewer also said to channel two news there was dirty all over the northbound lanes but the crash was in the southbound lanes so that means at canada dispersed scary stuff hey this is what it teaches me and it reminds me you not only need to watch out for your own but don't drink and drive followed the laws drive at a reasonable speed but guess what else you need to do this should remind all of us you need to be a defensive driver and lookout for others because so often it's not you the does the harming the colliding of the killing it someone else running into you running into me and that's not good you gotta be observant i'm always always observant knock on wood when i drive through intersections just to see if there's cars at the red lights you're not worried because they're blocking another car may be driving through but if it's an open intersection in i'm going through one and it's a green light i always do a peripheral on my left and right to see the no vehicles are idiots driving through and i've seen that happen a couple times well in advance of me never close enough to get in a rut but it's like holy crap that guy we got a green and someone just drove the intersection opposite way right in front of me and if you're not paying attention if you're texting if you're farting around and not monitoring the road you could go right into them and you could be in this article god forbid hey the phone number into the studio here at the time anderson show is three five seven five eight six eight.
"deputy director" Discussed on KBOI 670AM
"Let's go but trump had nothing to do with this this was the inspector general that was that it started the investigation because democrats screamed to have an investigation to investigate the fbi and what they were doing in the hillary investigation so we did and from what we know it was then forwarded to the the you turn the inspector general uncovered allegations of misconduct by mr mccabe which was forwarded to the fbi's office of professional responsibility composed of career officials they said fire him will know when the inspector generals report comes out exactly what was in that report and i love the way that well this was authorized leak well authorized by who if you have director of of fbi and the deputy director of the fbi if they are both on the same mission to discredit the current president or anyone for that matter then as long as we both say it's okay and you know what's interesting is you look back on the whole leaker finger pointing thing and when it started to come out remember when when when comey's testimony when he basically just came out and oh yeah right after i got fired i took it over to my friend who wanted to get to the media really really i think you've precedent his is call me the leaker on twitter and everybody was asking wait a minute look back at this was it the was it the the fbi top officials responsible for these leaks right when they were being investigated.
"deputy director" Discussed on The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell
"It seems like it has a lot more that we're probably eventually going to hear about this and i think we're so lucky that we have experts from the justice department experience here as well as reporters because this is a report this is journalism story to a mccabe is in trouble because of communication with the wall street journal with reporters mccabe describes that in his written statement tonight as his job he says this is one of the things that the deputy fbi director is charged with doing clarifying for the press when possible what the fbi is doing or what it's not doing and so he says here that he has done this he said it was the type of exchange with the media that the deputy director oversees several times per week in fact it was the same type of work that i continued to do under director ray at his request so he's saying the trump appointed fbi director had him doing exactly the same thing when you get to see the knife with that one yes well this is actually how this stuff works and of course the fbi and other agencies are concerned they don't want a reporter who has a story to mess up their investigation witnesses can be affected by these things and no we don't know exactly what mccabe did but i think there's a very pregnant line there about how when he evidently felt that the people who'd questioned him didn't get his answers the way he intended he set out to correct them now unless there's something showing that he was mendacious and obviously so it would seem to suggest that he may have been some degree setup or in any certainly clearly indicates he believes he was trying to make the record as accurate as possible and describes in this first round of trying to remember an truthful answers about this he says he was doing.
"deputy director" Discussed on The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell
"What andrew mccabe is describing there and we'll have to hold one against the other right and two things can simultaneously be true and ben put this well when he was describing it it is absolutely clear name another deputy director of the fbi who was became a household name he became a household name because he was attacked by first presidential candidate donald trump and then president donald trump and he's in he was attacked and i would submit probably fired for largely political reasons and i would throw in there the absolutely shameful sing signal singling out that sarah huckabee sanders did of him from the podium yesterday but this episode that he alludes to you know it's part of this behind the scenes dads that's really necessary part of washington that goes on where on background officials guide reporters to help reporters get their stories more accurate to make sure that things are not written that are unfair to subjects targets of an investigation this this is a dance that has to go on that needs to go on behind the scenes but something happened there that i that leased it sounds like the inspector general found wasn't exactly right and something then seemed to have happened with mccabe testimony that the inspector generalized suspect had a problem with so the fury that mccabe has about the politicization of the fbi in about his being fired i totally get i don't want to say that it's clear that his conduct has been completely above reproach because it feels like it's much more complicated story than that.
"deputy director" Discussed on The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell
"Public affairs officer and legal counselor as deputy director i was one of the one of only a few people who have the authority to do that it was not a secret it took place over several days and others including the director were aware of the interaction with the reporter it was the type of exchange with the media that the deputy director oversees several times per week in fact it was the same type of work that i continued to do under director ray at his request the investigation subsequently focused on who i talked to when i talked to them and so forth during those inquiries i answered questions truthfully and as accurately as i could amidst the chaos that surrounded me and when i thought my answers were misunderstood i contacted investigators to correct them but looking at that in isolation completely misses the big picture of the big picture a tale of what can happen when law enforcement this politicized public servants are attacked and people who are supposed to cherish and protect our institutions become instruments for damaging those institutions and people and harry lip and i want to get your reaction to that much of andrew mccabe statement it's true it's tragic the the broader story here first on mccabe the broader story as as bannon net say as one of exemplary public service respected across the from everybody and unfair tarring but this broader theme that he sounds at the end of his statement of politicisation of law enforcement is just naasi aiding and it's continued and continued what they're trying to do to nell trump had his press secretary go out and call mccabe to america a bad actor today it's reminiscent of the defame defamation that they visited on komi when he was fired and they said falsely the whole fbi had turned against him this kind of assault on independent law enforcement by the the white house i the small ends of trying to affect the investigation.
"deputy director" Discussed on NewsRadio1620
"And a warm welcome to our good friend danny mccarthy contributing editor at national review andy i've read the memo but you're the lawyer you're the former federal prosecutor you know it all this stuff means uh does this start to tell americans that we have a federal agency in the fbi or some individuals who ben within the federal agency of the fbi who've been used for political purposes well i think north that we certainly have learned in uh in connection with uh the surveillance of quarterpage spent a lot of corners what talk that uh that shouldn't have been caught a uh an unverified partisan narrative uh actually a partisan fantasy you could say um was presented to a federal court um in order to get permission to monitor the opposition party's campaign and i think we now know uh what we've longsuspected which was not only that the skill dossier was used uh to uh obtain ties warrants against uh trump's campaign uh but also that uh be deputy director then deputy director of the fbi acknowledged that had not been for the dossier uh they could not have gotten the warrant they would not have been able to make the problem will college showing uh that's required and court and we also know that these allegations were uh unverified and uh you know he's late as june 2017 uh former fbi director colmey described them as a salacious in unverified so i don't think there's any excuse for bad i don't think there's any excuse to not disclosing to the court uh the genesis of the memo when the fact that it was bought and paid for by the opposition party's campaign and yet the reaction were getting from the democrats is no there's no big deal odds nothing uh even though i i guess i think of the prospect of whoever is in power at a given time the united states agrees to do something illegal and unethical and.
"deputy director" Discussed on WGN Radio
"That no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the fis a court without the steel dossier information that huge i appreciate the call furthermore deputy director mccabe testified before the committee that no surveillance warned would have been sought from the fis accord without the steel dossier information so fox on that vacs is on that cbs and everybody else are talking about that i note in the cbs reporting on it that they say there is no direct quote from mccabe 's behind closed doors testimony seriously i don't think newness completely made that up it was behind closed doors testimony maybe he can't quoted or give it broader context i don't know that he's interested in that he's making his case and i'm not sure that mccabe is the decider of this like granted he's a player deputy director the fbi andrew mccabe but if that his opinion i suppose they should take that into account maybe this other opinions that are relevant here too but the sentences mccague testified before the committee in december that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the court without the steel dossier information point number four end of that paragraph okay but that can that that's not necessarily a damning thing right i means that means that there are other is other corroborating evidence they wouldn't have gone had they not also had the dossier and i'm assuming to something other than the yahoo news reporting on this should as accosted yeah but i mean let me read that again mckay testified that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the court without the steel dossier that would seem through negate what you just said no you could change words there he though you could say mccabe testified that no faisal warned would have been sought without the and the old us no than pudding the other there are other was other corroborating evidence there by everyone standards there must have been more than one thing this to seek the fis a or to get the fis up a warrant cracked i mean at any expert i've heard said that they they wouldn't ask just on the dossier corrode have to be something else right okay so we've got two things so you've got mccabe saying well we would have never done it had we not had the.
"deputy director" Discussed on KBOI 670AM
"This dossier has been corroborated or confirm and it's not me saying so exchange call me andrew mccabe deputy director of the fbi recently resigned retired confirmed that no faisal warrant would have been sought without the dossier meaning they didn't have anything else they didn't load the application up with a much a trump morality stuff they didn't have everything they had nothing on collusion with russia they have nothing zilch zero 'nother without the lions stinking made up trump dossier which begs another question what the judge no well it turns out the judge was not told the fis the court was not told of the political origins of the dossier the fis a court was presented the dossiers though it was legitimate real intelligence that was compiled by hardworking american patriots trying to protect america from the efforts of the russians the screw with us brilliant patriotic agents produce this judge no the court was not told of the political origins of the dossier nor in the in the resulting applications for renewal the court was not told of the political nature origins of the dossier bruce or oh h r official department of justice met with steel who made up the dossier in the summer of two thousand sixteen told doj that this guy's biased this guy hates trump steel told or that he was desperate that donald trump not get elected hillary found somebody to write this thing fusion gps on seven right this thing it did not want trump elected the fis a court was not too old and the doj was bruce or related to the department of justice that would mean call me at the time this is all happening and loretta lynch and anybody else in the obama administration which is need deep and all this may be hip deep in it now bruce or toll the doj which means clapper brennan loretta lynch colmey maybe obama that this guy is bias was obvious and real he was desperate that trump not get elected was passionate about trump not becoming president the doj upon hearing that said okay that's even better the pure raw partisan political nature of this entire sordid affair has now been confirmed it is on denial it was not hard fought and hard one intelligence it was not the result of boots on the.
"deputy director" Discussed on The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer
"One day before the state of the union speech the white house is busy dealing with the state of the russia investigation insisting president trump had nothing to do with the departure of deputy fbi director andrew mccabe the president was a part of this decision making process but the president has made it clear for more than a month he wanted medicaid gone tweeting about the deputy directors wipe a democrat who had mounted an unsuccessful campaign for the virginia state senate how can fbi deputy director andrew mccabe the main and charged be given seven hundred thousand dollars for wife's campaign by clinton puppets during investigation and fbi deputy director andrew mccabe is racing the clock to retire with full benefits ninety days to go mccabe as the latest official close to the russia investigation to feel the president's fury from former fbi director james comey who was fired by mr trump to to attorney general jeff sessions who was pressured by the white house did not recuse himself the frozen as attempt to fire special counsel robert muller along with mr trump's wishes to get rid of deputy attorney general rod rosenstein that sounds like they're full of officials at multiple levels will be pressured by the white house by the president would you what would you say in response to i say what i've said i would say what i've said probably a hundred times before and continue it will say i'm sure a hundred times today the white house has been fully cooperative is going to continue to be fully cooperative white house press secretary sarah sanders conceded the president has put pressure on officials the only thing that the president apply pressure to his to make sure we get this resolved so that you guys and everyone else can focus on the things that americans actually care about and that is making sure everybody gets the russia fever out of their system once and for all that you're all reminded once again there was no collusion.
"deputy director" Discussed on WTMA
"The deputy director of the national council resistance of iran us representative office i'll ereza your people are in turmoil and the ayatollah says the enemies of iran have done it how do you interpret the i told his remarks a very good evening to you thank you so much john unhappy new year to you and this is a great way to start the new year um since lee um i think what uh commonly is saying uh clearly shows the you know he's very very desperate situation um they enemies that he's talking about uh actually the people of iran uh and he says he's gonna share more details with the dear people when the time comes well it's the dea or people who are actually tearing down his pictures shouting death to harm and the deaths to rawhani and are spreading their demonstrations all over the country he says that the enemies are using money weapons and security um to destabilise the country well actually the money's controlled by the ayatollahs the weapons are in the hands of the ayatollahs and the security apparatus are the ones who have uh created this little level of anger among the population so it seems that combination is not ready to face the reality and it would just make things a lot harder for him uh in a hard to ray to leave the scene the reports are that the people who are protesting are complaining about lack of food lack of resources there is even a water crisis in iran have conditions deteriorated these last months is this something new well arrays well you know the conditions have been deteriorating over the past few years five particularly uh especially since you know uh comedy in two thousand five in order to empower the revolutionary guards he brought the plan called privatization that's really meant nothing but transferring all the resources of the country to the.
"deputy director" Discussed on KMJ NOW
"You mean if they're willing to go to that linked to get to the truth of the matter to look at evidence which is so obvious when you have the head of the both investigations the clinton investigation in the russian investigation pulling strings to make sure it goes his way and this guy's dismissed by mueller and mueller's being tightlipped about it oh my god that the republicans have every right to pull this investigation and bug i shift is is really concerned about that because he's going to lose his investigation which so far has shown no proof of anything hasn't produced a damn thing unbelievable nothing and how much is this costing the american public millions you ever look at that anymore million care about that anymore you all of this because i don't like donald trump and i can't believe my candidate didn't win that's all this is about out petty crook up i mean it's just oh my god and the irony here that gets me the most is the democrats are the one that started this by starting the investigation they're the ones that went after the dossier in all of this and then slowly but surely as the titanic began to turn all wait a minute all the democrats did that all that we won't cable us are liquid than ever democrats oh no hillary's involved now oh you all know now we have this uh fbi high level fbi uh personnel that uh there were total hillary clinton supporter this is at the highest level the deputy director andrew mccabe maybe the director james colmey.
"deputy director" Discussed on WLAC
"And packages it's a big day the book travel at a discount nobody thinks about that on the question of who will run the consumer financial protection bureau heads to court the deputy director of the cfpb leander english suit president trump sunday night claiming he overstepped his power by nominating mick mulvaney to the position a former director tapped english to serve as the acting director and on wall street the sp 500 on the nasdaq closed at record highs friday with all the main index posting their first weekly gains in three weeks investors buoyed by positive economy and strong corporate earnings fox news fare no one is someone will listen.
"deputy director" Discussed on WTMA
"Deputy director the fbi leaking to woodward and bernstein not because he was he was out to get justice or get the truth out but as the authorites because he wanted a promotion he wanted to be the fbi director and he thought by taking down another fbi director and once he was uh it was clear wasn't going to be the fbi director he just decided to burn the place now so he was an acting out of uh earnestness or anything of the sort according to this hawthorn so we'll bring him on and we'll have that trap but we know the acting director the fbi after colmey left his wife was very active liberal democrat running for the state senate close to the governor of virginia the acting fbi director the time mccabe now the deputy director is being investigated by the inspector general nothing anything's been wrong but to see if anything done was done that was wrong so we have a mess we have a mess lot of it is the fault of prior attorneys general holder and lynch who really who really did enormous damage to the department of justice but mr colmey and it's not just this it's other issues too mr colmey needs to be placed under oath again the united states justice department under president trump and attorney general sessions particularly in a session needs to be prepared to charge people who live under oath or mislead whether they're doing a in eighteen us one thousand one interview with an fbi agent or misleading as they're giving testimony under the penalty perjury it's time to enforce the rules all right let's take a call let's see what people are thinking then there's some more i have to cover i'm taking all the naysayers right now ryan las vegas the great kdwn k don go mark what is just the right here just to just uh i and i'm kind of wondering you'd on emptying three branches of government executive judiciary legislative you could you explain that be clean i don't even understand what you're saying headlines yes at what i as i point why what is the justice department of justice what did their bear dare perp it propose well why don't you tell me what their purposes well it sounds like it political while let's let's undermine the.
"deputy director" Discussed on KSFO-AM
"The entire last six years the arab spring well albore called for an arab spring here in america elgort film on and many others althans said like the former deputy director a c i thought much said aren't like the former head of the cia mr brennan said there will be terror attacks in america and they're coming and and trump is going to be overthrown in the next two much that was two months ago basically to the day hold on of october first hold on just a second jason did the day he was going to be overthrown on the next two months i thought i i would read that if if he had said that probably would have been a bit little bit bigger deal probably little they're not report again on cnn because of the dod through i love that you're like reuters reporting shoji on cnn reuters a major news source it like some blogger founded with cnn won't tell you about it writers is a major news source i would love to be a file on his researcher like our resilience room is nothing like that it must be so guys like a that i broke i love tracking these things down to so the articles referring to islamic state claims las vegas shooting comma us officials skeptical so i wasn't included in analysis and then it says that it's not reuters saying that he had converted to islam it is the islamic states news agency saying that he converted to islam is a kind of a me it's up reuters making that claimed they're not saying they found information they're just reporting what they threw up on this site which jason you from i know you've been following this largely as is so far not seen as credible they've claimed isis has claimed possibly for a few attacks that they have not done most of the time they're accurate but so far there is no information tying this to isis that's true and but that actually kinda where i i would not i'm not ruling it out are not ruling it out i had fired either in the moment someone definitively does ruled out there very well could be an isis like dump that says this is the screen shot of the communication that we had with them i you that i'm just not completely rolling it.