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Cancel Culture and the Seven Stages of Grief

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1:07:18 hr | 1 year ago

Cancel Culture and the Seven Stages of Grief

"Welcome to a brand new episode of the Yoga Girl podcast conversations from the heart. So I, I gotta be honest with you guys trying record this podcast day like an hour ago. I was sitting here my little sanctuary on my couch headphones on Mike. In front of me spent a good fifteen twenty minutes just kind of contemplating. What am I going to say on this week's show? Where do I begin? You know what am I going to talk about how am I gonNA? This it's felt like a daunting thing returning to the podcast right now, and then I was sort of saved by the Bell I. Just I remembered. Oh. Shit I am bread proofing. That was about to become over proved. Oh. My God. That would be a huge disaster. Like Such a silly thing. But it was enough for me like Oh my God I gotta go downstairs and put my bread in the oven. So I did that and then I realized I had I've been dehydrating a ton of Moringa from our latest Moringa harvest and I was just waiting for the oven to heat up and I was like you know what? Let me just pulverized this and make my Murang`a powder some like standing in the kitchen. And then I, did that and I spend I spend like thirty minutes just with my marina leaves and my bread and returned upstairs, and now I'm in the totally different totally different head space. So I'm really I'm finding that all throughout these days all throughout this year you know the Gift that is twenty twenty. The there are there's something very special about the day to day mundane tasks. Right for me. It's a lot around the things that happened in the kitchen that just. That just have this amazing ability to to snap out of whatever thing in and brings me into the present moment. So safe to say over the past two weeks. I have been pickling lot. Baking every day I have been making Kabukicho? Like a ton of that cooking three meals a day just spending a lot of time also in the garden and harvesting herbs I'm I'm making tinctures right now making or Oregano I have I have going downstairs. I have a bunch of those little mini projects. And I was just thinking back to that and of how these past two weeks been. Because it's been. It's been a really traumatic time and I don't use that word lightly if you guys listen to this show, you know I don't use the word trauma or something traumatic lightly it has been a really traumatic thing the me and my family just went through and I think what's really kept me kept me going has been these these little day to day thinks hate I have a little baby watermelon growing in my garden it's like keeping me afloat right now. No, but to get to get serious I guess. So I'm going to assume that you've heard last week's podcast. I'll give a little like quick recap. If you know if you're listening to this for the first time when you're wondering what the hell happened to Rachel. Basically about about two weeks ago, almost two weeks ago now. It's weird time just kind of flies. On instagram story and kind of casually without thinking too much about it or realizing. How big of a deal it was I went on instagram story and told the world. Hey, guys don't come to a robot right now chill out with a traveling. You know we've seen a massive unbelievable spike in corona virus cases here. And just urged people to you know to not travel basically. If you're coming from A. Heavily affected place and what happened as a kind of immediate result to that was that the whole island of Aruba. I've lived for the past ten years. Basically I don't even know how to how to how to describe it. Had A had a really intense almost like visceral physical reaction to to the words I said and a little clip of what I said that didn't give the context. You know what I was actually saying was shared and went totally viral. In Aruba and and I was canceled I guess I was sitting with a term yesterday just talking to done. It's like, what does it mean? To be canceled or try to cancel someone like the whole thing. There's some really cool podcasts out there on canceled culture that are really good. There are books written about this topic. You know we live in this kind of cancel culture age right now and we've seen so much happen this year I think I kind of I stand the the value and the the. Good parts about it you know being able to use social media online space to call people out when they're making mistakes right or when people are doing something really bad or bad people who are out there things being brought to light and people uniting behind the cause of of a person you know doing better than what I experienced two weeks ago. Wasn't really that right? It wasn't you know first of all I didn't have anything actually cancelled I. Don't know how that really works to be canceled. You have to have A. Like if we had to shut our business down for instance or if I lost business deals or collaborations or suddenly no listen to this podcast anymore or you know something like I had a direct sort of negative result to that in terms of in terms of my business I. Guess. I think. Then that would be that I was canceled and what happened here was because I don't have my my business and centered in Aruba Business Wise and you know all that whole side of our lives is totally untouched and totally fine. Actually I. think Maybe it had the opposite effect we've had last week's podcast was the record of highest most listened to podcasts I've ever recorded in the first twenty four hours. Of its release, we've had full classes at the studio every single day. I think globally there's been more of a supportive vibe going but locally, basically I think I think I'm still digesting this rates. I still don't really know how to talk about it I. Think I had my whole life ruined to be honest. And they also know that I am I am the one in charge of that. You know depending on how how I see it. You know the good friends that I have here on the island are still my good friends. They're actually closer to me now than they were before. You know we still have a beautiful house. We have a beautiful family all our immediate kind of close knit parts of our lives are are still the same and especially now in virus times where you know not about not going to the bars or going to Brunch or venturing out, you know in all these social social ways which normally I don't a lot anyway. But so you know in person I haven't experienced this this cancellation of my whole being that the that unfolded here. Basically. We we spent about this. It took almost a week for this to actually you know. Calm down. We spent a good week. We had like three or four days that were peak horrible horrible of just thousands and thousands and thousands of people sending me abuse harassment emails, letters, DM's tweets. Youtube comments, snapchat instagram comments, facebook comments. Every platform that I've ever been present on my life just hate basically started started pouring in and started like a little trickle and then became a tidal wave. came. Pizza. A soon Nami of just really intense hate. Even saying, that's not like talking about this. Now I can kind of sense my my heart goes like. It's a little hard to breathe in a way. I've never experienced anything like this. In my entire life I have never ever I haven't even experienced this like on the sidelines I've never witnessed something like this unfold I've never seen something like this happen to someone I follow online. happened to a celebrity that I'm like invested in a happened to a friend happened to an acquaintance never. So honestly. The closes I can get to and I was really thinking about this. When have I watched? You know because I know this happened to, of course, a lot of people this year there's been horrible like racist stuff that has been unearthed. A lot of prominent figures especially in the US and the media kind of lost their positions I think in in in to call society or in in their businesses or you know TV, show hosts and things like that because bad shit that they've done in the past has been on earth. And I think the difference for me is one what happened was a very local thing I think people from abroad didn't understand why is it a big deal I'm just mimicking and repeating what hundreds of thousands of people are saying what every country in the world has issued as like a national recommendation you know to not travel or to slow down travel in the worst midst of the pandemic for most people abroad this like I. Think it was really confusing like, hey. You know Rachel's just just trying to be responsible and wanting to protect protect this place where she lives, which is really vulnerable. So I think it I think for most people who aren't here in Aruba I think it was more like what the Hell is wrong with island like what is going on? This is insane. And then there are some people who got really invested. Especially people in the in the community group that we have on facebook. I think if you're in that group and you kind of came to support me I just WANNA. Say Thank you that was I saw a lot of you know really sweet things pass by and people got really involved and We had so many sudden like five star reviews on our on our business. You know on Google and Entrepreneur Sir on facebook and just kind of people wanting to help because we had so many people try to give as one star reviews locally. So it didn't really make a dent like actually in the end now we have better views. We have a higher rating than we had four like all these things if I break it down to the pieces where like okay. If I put my whole heart and like. My whole inner wellbeing, which of course, it's the most important thing. But if I put that aside and just look at at at the logistics of this, I, look at the material aspects of what was the actual end result here aside from my wellbeing, right I'm going to put that site. Will the result was we had more people listened to the podcast had more people come to class on we have better reviews on all of our business pages online but this podcast is a big source of revenue for us. So I know we're going to have an upswing in revenues come our way because it was very, very very listened to show last week you know in terms of those pieces everything's fine right like I don't have anything where I can say, Oh, I, had a big material loss like that can point to like. Nothing, was vandalized in the end no one broke into the studio to to light it on fire. The way they said, we didn't even see a drop in attendance right at the studio. So like all those things that that we thought were going to happen like our lives are going to be over what is felt like like it didn't happen and I know a lot of that is as a result to thanks to. So many of you guys listening being super supportive from a foreign you know no one asked you to do that. And I just want to say a big big big. Thank you. If you yeah. If you if you were trying to show US support or love or even just thinking about us from afar just just. So you know that that that I felt that. I really really really did. You're listening to the yoga girl podcast conversations from the heart. 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You know because in the first moment when this kind of you know when this wave of. I guess hate upset hit. It was just total shock like I couldn't believe it like it was like, no, no, it was. It was really my jaw on the floor like a whole I think I had a whole almost a whole day of not being able to grasp what was happening where I was kind of going online trying to explain myself a little bit and then things started just got worse and worse and worse and worse and worse than it was just like no. But. This cannot this cannot be happening. This is not does not represent the community where I live like there's no way you know and people that then is not used to call friends or acquaintances or people who, yeah people who who will hug me and smile and semi tax on my birthday and those kinds of people not our closest friends but people who are close enough that like they'll say happy birthday you know those kinds of people were suddenly going online tearing me apart. Right so there was definitely like that first stage of just shock. And then the next stage you know if you know the seven stages of grief, the next stage is denial. Like this is not happening and I. I turn my phone off. Right? I told his hey, let's let's let's just. Pass this is not this is not what it looks like. This is just a fluke. This is just one leg stupid blogger with a grudge against us you know trying to do something bad like this just turn our phones off. Let's go surf. Let's take to the beach. Let's just ignore like this is not does not real. Right, and we went surfing like we went all the way to the north shore. We didn't have any service or anything and Dennis like gone in the water ten minutes later came right back up and I was like, Hey, what's What's going on and he was just like I am so stressed out I can't surf like being in the waves not knowing what's happening like not knowing how bad this is getting not being able to control the narrative be aware he's like we gotta we gotta go back home I. Need I need I need fi like we ain't got we gotta go back home. So that was our moment of denial. Third Stage stages bargaining, which was definitely me like. Trying to go online like, Hey, everyone misunderstood me i. didn't mean that like trying to negotiate I was super invested in in communicating with people like. What's up and direct messages and like talking to people like, Hey, you know trying to explain myself basically like, Hey, this is not. Does Not Warrant that. This is not like doesn't it's not okay for you to tell me you're gonNA come to my house and kill me I was trying to protect like this island. Here's what I meant, and then I would go into these long long explanations of trying to bargain my way to for people to understand you know which only made everything worse. And then the next stage of this is guilt bike I had I don't know probably. Probably two days of just. Like I think I. Used to Dennis. One's an hour like i. felt like I ruined our lives I fought like like I have embarrassed myself. I've embarrassed him. I've embarrassed our whole family. I. Felt so humiliated guilty like can't believe I. Did this to us you know like I, cost us all this harm like all this is my fault. By shouldn't have been online should never have started instagram account I shouldn't. Just, feeling horrible guilty in trying to think of like Laos going to go to school and he's GonNa get bullied because people are gonNA remember this forever, and then as will never be able to go and be in his normal social circles because there were people in every social circle that we know that now you know not only thinks like, hey, that was a stupid thing to say but things like I'm a horrible horrible human being and I should leave this island, right? I should go back to my home country. I. Don't belong here. So that I had for sure like two days of just guilt you know. And the next stage of that, which I think is kind of the stage. When we recorded last week was anger. Like I don't know if it came off if you heard last week's podcast but. I took know the whole day we were planning to record I. DIDN'T WANNA. Do it. I was contemplating canceling everything cancel all the podcast for that week. Because it was just so much. And the the heat and the death threats and the I didn't feel safe to it was just way too much and then that is was the one who said like, Hey, let's do it together. Let, me lead the conversation like he he he made a joke. He's let me be the host and I was like, okay. You'll be the host. And like thirty minutes before we recorded I was just crying I was just like, no no, and there's no way I'm going to be able to talk my way through a whole our podcast talk about this. How am I gonNA put words to this when I'm still in shock you know but then something happened almost like i. think it was the Intro of the podcast he was just he makes me smile he makes me laugh like all day. You know if you heard last week spot doubts, just just him trying to do the intro like we spent twenty minutes. Trying to do the intro of the show and then I was just laughing so hard and then the energy of last week's podcast. Did it become what I thought I thought it was going to be one of those tier full like super. Saad. Depressed kind of kind of shows you know which I've had in the past talking about something hard. But it didn't. It was more like, Hey I felt solid grounded and all of it. Thanks to Dennis for short and was even able to communicate some of my anger. This is so not okay it's just not it's not. And that stage the anger state is kind of what I spent I dunno I had almost like almost the whole last week up until two days ago I've just been pissed like I can't even I can't even explain it. I've just been you know like I I don't I don't feel shock anymore I'm in denial of stopped bargaining it'll feel guilty it just it's just I got so so so fucking angry. You know like Hey I'm a human being human beings make mistakes I made a mistake I said something I said something stupid i. if I said, something thousands of people are saying every day and set it at a bad time I said it in a bad way. You know I apologize I explained myself and it didn't matter like it didn't matter it was of like all Oliver Rubel needed a scapegoat all of Rubel needed someone to to hate like everyone needed someone to blame and everyone was like got to unite for this common cause of just like trying to tear my life apart basically. And the things that were told to me the things that were told to my family that the threats that came in. About, our business about my child people telling me that they were on our way to our house they're going to kill. Me Should Burn Burn my studio down with me inside someone said, they wanted to stab me someone said, they know what? Beach I, frequent extent, Sima they're going to drown me. In these common sections that had all this hate all this abuse people start sharing photos of Leah. Here's the family. Here's the three year old. You know people sending neither add my address like I know where you live like it was like. Like I I still cannot wrap my head around people writing this to to a human being like to a person. And I I can understand the the anger on the backlash and kind of the bad things that leads to this moment right like this was a very bad moment for a robot we are today I'm recording does on a Wednesday per capita in the world, a Aruba's as number one on the list of most cases of Corona. We now have more cases per capita than the United States. It's like Aruba is is is in the midst of it right? It's. It's really really really bad. And it didn't really matter that the same day that I went on instagram story to say, Hey, don't travel here. Now out of fear out of worry for kids like out of worry for this island that same day you know all of these airlines stopped traveling here like all those things happened but that didn't matter because it was like I, I was the person to hate you know everything was all of a sudden my fault. I got to kind of represent everything that's bad wrong and. And that anger honestly like it it's it lingered with me for a really long time. To the point of me not being able to sit still like I felt so agitated almost the whole week just agitated convene stillness I felt like. I had an old what five days in a row, drinking wine every night, which normally we don't do. Just. Out of this feeling like I couldn't settle in myself I had a really hard time being in my body. I didn't feel didn't feel safe and I just felt fucking pissed and I started making lists. This was like day three or four of my anger I start making lists like, okay. Here are the people I know who I know posted something. Like I got really petty about it and I have like this actually was helpful for my anger like then asked like, how can you how can you move through this anger and express it when you don't have one single person to be angry with you know it's not like someone long me but like a whole country going. To take down basically to to dehumanize me to threaten meet to try to get me to leave my home to make me feel unsafe to call me the worst names I have ever seen online ever I, mean ever. There's a lot of things I cannot repeat on this podcast. We would have to bleep it out because it's so vile. Know and then writing this list of like, okay. I have a list like thirty five people. Who normally when I see them at Brunch or at the bar or on the beach I would walk up to them. Hug Them. You know ask them how their families doing. They would ask me how my family's doing. It's like people that we know I have my number they can call me anytime. Those people in terms of like okay. When we are back in an almost space here are people that I will never work with that. I will never look in the eye again that. We will make sure never have a collaboration with these people because now already things are turning and we had. Brands and businesses here wondering about emotions because I mentioned that before everything turned really bad I started getting like you know like like I hate these people like that feeling of like and I I've. I've had a lot of anger in my life like I'm really good at processing moving through anger. But that feeling of like vicious hate to slake like the person who's who started the first person who shared a photo of my three year old in that comment section like I've been obsessing about that person you know like what goes through their minds what goes through their how? Do. They live what kind of person is that if they're they're actually able to put a child's life in danger right and then there were other people who who commented positively on the fact that that person did that like I got into all these common threads and wrote these people's names down in like went on their facebook pages and looked up their employers and and drafted. Emails like, Hey, like to send to their employers, this is the kind of person you have on your team, a person who's willing to endanger three year olds life because they're having a bad day right or because they're swept up in a storm of some something bad on social media you know, how do you sleep at night like I did all of this I didn't send. Anything and take action on anything but actually felt good just to kind of sort it out in my brain a little bit to actually able to identify that the worst of the worst wasn't the whole island. You know it's not like I I can walk around holding a grudge store Oliver Ruben for the rest of my life, but it was a handful of very vicious people. You know. And and just kind of going through that structure in a way the helped. It really did and then two days ago Yeah Angie. stage. Is Funny I. Don't know who told me someone told me like a friend of mine told me who was it that? Okay this is this is like a trauma like it's obviously trauma and chances are you're going to go through the stages of grief like that you would go through after someone has died and I was like but no one's died. It's like Aruba died that's how I feel I feel like all of Rupa died I don't belong here anymore I can't live here anymore I don't trust here anymore don't feel safe anymore Aruba has died and then she was making a joke but it's kind of hard work like look out for these things. And then the moment I did I was like, yeah, that's been it. That's literally been it. And in the anger Phase I started running. I started running a like we have treadmill at home not leaving the house obviously or anything. But I started running running really fucking fast and I've been running really far and have been running away that I have never ran in my life I. Had podcast about running because you guys know I've had this long. There's a longing inside of me sue WANNA. That's my bread. 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Wish I wish I was a runner, but I'm not really. So my runs are usually like I think I run like Phoebe and friends like if I really think that's more mice. But. This week I've been running I got on the treadmill every day it was it was like the only way I could get my body moving I didn't rule out my Matt I didn't want to practice I didn't want to do a dynamic meditation which iphone Super Awed Because I've done the my I did fifty days in a row and I just had this feeling no, it's like I couldn't get there. So running. And I have spent like sometimes hours and I'm seventy five minutes on the treadmill like alternating between running sprinting. Talking it's been really bizarre. And then two days ago. I just. I. Had probably one of the worst days. No no days are worse than the the weekend when everything happened when I really felt like we were unsafe that was the worst. But after that like just just the worst. The worst day I don't know. I just I just couldn't. It was like I was walking around with a heavy black cloud over my head all all day and I couldn't get up like I couldn't get out of it. I couldn't. Conceive clearly, you couldn't be can be in my body couldn't be here and then it was done. It was like, Hey, I'm gonNA. Take layout we're going to go leave the house so you can do it I not make like you have to do something you have to you you gotta like just do it. And they left and I did. I did a burn meditation, which is like the conscious emotional release part of the dynamic didn't only that but I did that for almost an hour or forty five minutes. And I got Soho. Much out like I can ought helmets the reason my voices can horse now still but. I was just it was my first moment of being able to move some of that anger through right. So after that I, actually I stopped obsessing about the specifics of the people who were involved and just you know I got some was able to become more objective and kind of step away from the the immediate intensity of the personal dynamics of the whole situation, right? And then After that. So, it was like pulling the plug like this is two days ago or three days ago I don't know. I think two days ago, and after that, it was like pulling the plug on a drain and I started I started crying. And I could cry now just sharing this but the next stage of of the stages of grief is depression. And, I hadn't really fault that way like I'd felt sad and upset and I'd gone through the motions of all this stuff but it was like after I was able to move through some of that anger like the anger was this huge obstacle fiery and intense and hard. event. I was able to process some of that and then got sad. You know it was kind of the first. Yeah, the first moment of me actually being really really really sad. And that's where I've been. That's where I am now. I'm still sowed. And it's a different kind of sad like in the beginning it was sad mixed with shock and disbelief and guild and all these other things. And now it's just sad like I'm just sat like I've had three days in a row in the morning waking up and his turning over like hugging me like you know how you doing. And I. Go I haven't even gotten out of bed and I already wanted to end like I haven't even got out of bed and I'm already I already feel depressed like I already nothing had to happen today from to feel depressed. I didn't have to be reminded of something or read another comment or get another email is just I like I opened my eyes in the morning and I feel depressed like that's that's how I feel. And I have been through through the pressure in my life. Not to the extent of you know not being able to get out of bed like if never experienced that. I have had some really like hormone related bouts of depression in my life especially as a teenager when I was like sixteen seventeen and I was on the pill, I had like a long stretch of time of just like I didn't know I was depressed until I got off the pill, and then it was like everything east up I realized like had been Zombie for six months. Had that I've had a lot of loss in my life and people die in pass away. And hard things happen. But the difference I think there is like I I was able to point to something you know best friend died in a car crash and I could whenever that that kind of dark black heavy cloud just I would wake up and I would feel like that I had something really specific to point to. It's like I lost my best friend it would it would be stranger if I didn't feel sad all the time right and then I would have. Just moments of joy and gratitude in between the you know how grief is it's so fucked up and hardened beautiful same time. And now this feeling is totally different. This feeling is not at all because that grief or that kind of grief of having lost somebody you love you know in a way strangely, and usually we can't really connect the dots of this until afterwards or until more time has passed, but it's like that kind of grief it has a sense of purpose to it. or at least that's been my personal experience of of losing people close to me in my life that when we're grieving someone that we've lost, there's purpose to that grief. It's almost like deep down underneath all the heavy layers of pain. We know that this feeling it's moving us forward. It's like being in the midst of it being in that grief being in that pain. Being in that depression that sadness it's like we're clawing our way through the dark and we don't know where we're going. We don't know how long we're going to be in the dark, but we know it's purposeful because it's it's eventually what's what gets us through to the other side's? Is Healing right so. There's a different kind of feeling to that and I'm not saying I would I would exchange this feeling that I have now for losing someone in my life like obviously not. But this this sadness that I have been experiencing over the past days it's it feels holy pointless. That's how I feel. It feels totally purpose purposeless at feels pointless. It feels hopeless it feels like. It doesn't feel really valid because nobody did die. You know it's like as a feel like like I can't validate or hold space for my own feelings in a way because I feel like like it's weird I shouldn't feel this way. We are so blessed and I choose to be online like I choose to be on. Social. Media. I was the one who started all of this. Let's let you know. And it's like we are so blessed were. So we're all safe like nothing bad did happen. I have a lot of support in so many different ways we still have a big brand and the big following of people who who, who, love me and support me no matter what like it's like all those things still stand you know so so it's almost like I can't validate my own feeling of hopelessness or sadness or grief in a way. So. It's just feels pointless. It feels like I shouldn't feel this way. Which is, which is a strange feeling for me to have because. If you'd listen to this show you know you know ninety percent of my life is Holding space for emotion and heart healing in using the tools to to move through through hard things, and now I just feel like. I feel like there's no reason for me to get up in the morning. Powered this podcast. Really well. pillages now. Like. I can talk about this and. We're so blessed and I'm so grateful for so much. Actually everything is okay you know. What did break into our house and you know? Like no one did vandalize her studio. We didn't, even lose money. Did lose did lose social media followers did lose money did lose students like what's the loss right? Really. And I think maybe if I. I don't know maybe it would help. It would be easier to navigate if I did have a a loss that was palpable that I can touch or point to you know. And I. Think why this is like what makes us also? So hard is that is that I don't is it's like the loss that I'm experiencing is the loss of community. Right is the loss of loss of trust. Is the loss of. A feeling at home. You know I feel like my ground shifted it really literally did. And it's not like I. think that if I go out in public people are going to like last week. I was sure for sure if I would have been out in public and people would have seen me like people would be yelling at me. You're pulling my hair spitting at me or leaving me notes on my car like it was so vicious for so long. And anyone who says you know no one was going to act on anything people did act on a lot of Shit. We had people in front of our house. We had our alarm system go off several times we had. You. Know Super Threatening Shit. Come our way. We had people, and this to me is like beyond me, we had people e mail us took to our studio address on behalf of entire huge corporations, not management or actual corporations right but people who worked there. Saying I'm banned for life at this place I can never return, and of course now that we're doing some digging lake. Okay. If we brought that forward to that person's management or manager. It's not true right it's not like condoned by that business, but that's what it feels like. A lot of people felt angry enough to actually sit down and look up our address and share pictures of our kid and write emails on you know with letterheads of businesses and places of work and. Start Petitions and like people like did shit. It wasn't just the passing by leaving a common and moving on with your day. You know it was it was really really really really vicious really hard. And what it means is is that that feeling of like, Hey, I live here like I belong here. Which I've fought for it for ten years you know, Mike by my daughter's born here. Is, from here, whole families here. Our friends are here our businesses here. Our lives are here, right And I never once felt not welcomed or like maybe this isn't the right place for us to be, and even though you know obviously I wasn't super immersed all across the island and all the parts of our of of the local community because they think if I did this happen, you know anyone who whoever? Has Been Island. Yo. Anyone who practice that's the beauty of it. I think anyone who? Any one of our core community that people who are already practicing at the studio they just shrug their shoulders and moved on with their day because they knew like Oh. This isn't true like this is incorrect is not originalist. This is not does not represent her or her brand ready thing you know because they know us and think we're things got really vicious and bad were from people that didn't know us or people who knew us who has some sort of grudge or holding onto something negative or I don't know. And maybe if we were more present in different facets of of the community would help it. But that feeling that that. Yeah, there's no the feeling of you know. Going out to eat at a restaurant. Go into a store. Like venturing out the little space, a little box of of this house, our garden, maybe the studio like there's nowhere I feel safe. You know and not in a sense of Oh someone's going to physically harm me but safe in terms of feeling. Welcome. Or appreciated or knowing that the efforts that we put in or the I've put in to this island for so long that they're worthwhile or appreciated or helpful or you know I lost all of that. and. Of course, what it's also bringing about his this complete feeling of uncertainty like. I don't know where we're GONNA live now. I genuinely don't and. Talking to Dennis he does not in any way agree like he does not. He does not want to leave indefinitely. You know like we're not talking about packing and leaving now. But. We do have all of our lives and complete total uncertainty just like everybody else you know this entire year. We've been looking at properties in Costa Rica for the past for the past year or two years thinking about that. Talking about like anytime. Anyone ever said or asked me when which school are you going to pick for layout when she starts like actual school and when she's six or seven? And my answer has been oh I. Don't know if we're here then. And I don't know why. I just couldn't ever really envision myself. You know it's like twenty years from now is this where we are like at that was kind of. I don't know it all very, very open. And so I guess the shift now is that I feel a sense of urgency like, yeah I don't I don't i. don't I. Don't WanNa live here long term anymore. Maybe, I'll feel totally different at the end of this year or next year or something like that. Maybe. I won't. But that feeling of like this is home. This is forever home. This is you know let's grow the business. Let's. Continue Investing here you know that I, I don't feel that way at all. I feel like I don't want to invest any money on the island into the island anymore I feel like I don't want to. Develop, what we're already doing like I don't feel any sort of. Longing to to continue here I guess. Knowing that it's no longer a safe space from me, and maybe also you know maybe the hard truth is like it never really was i. don't know you know that that that love actually wasn't here that that I've been living under some illusion somehow. And I know that's not the case for like our closest community but for. For this island as a whole it's very bizarre totally fucked up weird like I don't even know how to explain this to someone if they weren't here, they weren't a part of this or watch this unfold online like how do I explain like? Yeah. I basically been like exiled from a- from an entire entire country you know. And then as we move now than it's like we're going to prove the rights and then everyone who instigates the sort of abuse and hate and harassment. They're gonNA feel like they have power that they can continue doing this to other people. And that's something that like I I'm not even thinking in those terms but done has been he's been at the police station every day. Every single day. Filing reports in different. Areas and and I don't even know how it works I. don't care like I genuinely feel like there's nothing that's going to nothing's GonNa get better in this sense is not going to help you know but he feels really really strongly that that this is like you have to. We have to take action in every area. We can because none of this that went down was okay. Just A. You know by by any means so I don't know like speaking from the heart like I don't know how to I don't know how to do that because I feel like. Yeah this kind of. And it's also I am having a hard time finding words because I'm a Super Brazilian person right I'm super strong. I'm super resilient. I've been through lot of hardship in my life. Like I have dealt with negative comments online and people not liking me and like having really strong opinions and views. Re people disagree like all of this but there is something about this amount like the sheer volume of the hate that I that I received these past weeks. Like, there's a limit to how many times you can read your horrible right you're horrible human being you deserve to die. You shouldn't live here. Go Away die somewhere you know. Like you're you're you're the worst human being ever walked this earth. The things that say like bitch whore cont fat ass like those kinds of didn't really touched me so much. But like the ones that were really really like you could tell their sent with passion with like that's from their hearts tonight you know die. Like your the worst human beings erastus earth your worthless pathetic horrible bad. Like I'm having a really hard time. I think my nervous system is having a really hard time. Digesting in processing the sheer volume of that like there's a limit to how much of that one single person can receive. And read and not have that affect their mental health like and I could be super cool. Right now I go. Yeah. But that doesn't faze me and that's just people I don't know and people online and people go crazy online. Yeah. But it's also like I'm unreal unreal person I am not some persona of yoga girl who's pretending to be something online or putting something out there that's just the brand or a business like I'm a I'm a person. You know. An I spend a lot of time. Like doing my very, very best. In this life, you know trying to be of service trying to do good things trying to change people's lives trying to. Trying to be purposeful you know and that feeling of just there is this this amount. There's more hate toward me present where I live then I think toward. Krona, virus like I think toward any corrupt politician. or any of the real big mega series reasons people have to actually be genuinely upset. You know that feeling it's kind of. It's shook something inside of me and I don't know how to reconcile it with. With being here, both being here as like being present in this country now and also be here like being in my body being. Being present as I moved through my day. You know. Yeah I. DON'T KNOW I. Like I feel like someone else told me who was see my memories like My memory is is is really bad for over these past couple of weeks I think because I'm not here right? I think I'm disassociating or I'm trying to disconnect is like been too much to take in so I'm disconnecting in a way. You know and the because of that, I'm having a hard time remembering basic stuff that I normally you know. But someone else told me like Oh. This is going to cause PTSD like you're gonNA feel some post traumatic stress after this and it's GonNa take time and. And you know and I'm speaking to therapist every week like doing all the things normally do. Still moving body and taught a yoga class today I was GONNA. Lead without and I forgot I went to the studio first time. taught a class. It was no big deal. jam-packed class everyone super nice and Smiley and regular feeling at studio and. I was like it's not like it's not like the world has ended. Anders real problems in this world, there's children starving children being trafficked like people who can't feed their kids like there's horrible real. Ho- injustice happening in this world. So like how much space am I gonNA sit up take up sitting here talking about. My little thing that happened on the Internet like who cares. Like. That's also what I feel. It's like. Hey I don't want to waste people's time talking about this because there's more important things. To do. Than than this, fuck, you know. But. I also know that that's a that's a lie. Right like I if I don't process I'm not going to be able to do any good. You're listening to the girl podcast conversations from the heart. We deserve to know what we're putting in our bodies and why and that's why rituals founder is on a mission to reinvent the vitamin industry catch neither and her team of scientists that ritual are making clinically tested a new normal but only have the obsessively researched each neutral in their visionary women's Multivitamin carefully choosing forms that are absorbable by the body but they've also tested their formula science backed isn't just a buzzword for them. 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She knew something really bad was happening and then we had friends come over and so she had some like other people who could be more present with her because both me and Dennis Ryan Lake Shock I think. And then the next day, and this is something that she has never done ever ever ever. We were like I was cooking breakfast in the morning, and the that is and I were talking and talking intensely, and as we got quiet, there was a gap between sentences or something, and then I hear her over from the kitchen table going hey. Papa keep talking to Mama. I'm like, what just keep talk more to Mama like keep talking to me. And like why does she want us to keep talking like wait? She doesn't want our attention over there. You know and I go look as you took a big fat black Crayon. and. She was just like drawing all over. This is our freshly painted kitchen wall like just painted all the walls in our house. And just big black angry marks all over. And she's not she's never had a like that she's never she's super into rules and what's right. What's wrong? She's she would never she's never ever ever. She's not who should who she is and then I just saw like I caught her eye and was like Leah and started bawling as you just cried and cried and cried and cried. And I know whatever that was, you know some sort of reaction on on everything the the horrible intense shitty energy in vibration that's been a part of this house. For that time so I think in the end of the day I, sat her down and I tried to explain it said, Hey, I know momma wasn't wasn't so present with you yesterday and and how did you feel and she keeps she keeps coming back to these I. Don't know where she picked it up. If it's because he's hearing me talk about safety and she goes mom are you safe now also at at a night in bed before going to bed like she'll cry I leave the room initial crying a comeback in as it was going on she's. Can you lie here? Mom Are you safe here with me? And I'm like, do you mean are you safe with me? You know like is she yet can papa come in. Can we all lie in the same bed? Is it safe here? Am I safe here? Are you safe year? So she's picking up those. kind of wording but also probably that feeling of not being safe, you know I never like have it hovered over her bed at night for two years rights and she was a baby in Phnom doing that again like make going into her room every night and turning the alarm on before we go to bed. Bike for sure. I have an energy about me now that probably is telling her that. It's not so safe here anymore. You know. So of course she feels that but she also wasn't a part of you know she didn't hear anybody say these things she didn't. Of course you can't read you know like she's not she's too young. So I think she's still As protected from all of this as as she could be I. Think. So. Yeah. Speaking of. I haven't been on social media, right for almost two weeks I've had. Like less than an hour of screen or you have the screen time function on your Iphone, mine has been below the one hour mark for the past like ten days or maybe at least a week. And the bulk of that one hour is like we have our we have hue lights at homes are lights sit on the Wi fi and our music you know I, look up recipes for baking and stuff online like that's basically been doing on my phone and that part you guys I gotta say from someone who has been present on social, media's twenty twelve. And I made like present on social media like talking to people all day posting every day you know sharing sharing sharing. Even, if I'm having a more quiet day like I'm still there you know. In, my DM's Mike Ullman section and scrolling and reading and you know super super line all the time it's been A. Spin a huge relief. I don't know someone asked me or you coming back to social media. Like it feels bizarre to not do that like I don't know. Like I I don't know if that's something that I that I would want long-term someone else out like what's yoga girl the business the brand the platform without social media does it work? I don't know. Maybe, we're about to find out. I really don't know we. We did have a you know this week was supposed to be our big launch for our pancakes. Our first product released from our new food brand family foods is a pancake and baking mix that we worked so hard. For so long and that was supposed to be last week. And of course, then happen. So we did instead was like a prelaunch should just for people who had signed up with their emails on. Food Dot Com nothing on social you know I wasn't there. And We sold like it was it was so beautiful to be honest. It was so beautiful to see that. Oh. We can have a successful prelaunch completely without me having to be there. That's a relief you know at the end of the day I would love to to be present online to the extent that that it. Fills my heart. Right or to the extent I can feel purposeful or do something. Good. And I don't feel that way you know and I've had I. Haven't really felt that way for a long time like that. Zest of inspiration to talk, speak, and share and and purpose and I. I don't feel that way. So having this time now without being online without sharing anything without talking about well taking any pictures, I've taken a single frigging picture. I took one picture of my of my watermelon like. Does. He pitches of anything. It's kind of. Yeah. Of course, the moment you have distance from social media you realize how insane it is to be on social media all the time and you know I can't say that without some coming off super hypocritical because I have an entire business and platform built on social media, right? Of course. So many blessings that have come through that as well and. All the support that I've felt over the past two weeks I wouldn't have had if it wasn't for for social media there is so much good there too. But I have jost. I have lost sight of. I'm not able to define like do I do I feel better without it? And I think you know that's a question worthwhile for all of us to be asking ourselves at least just to get present with it. You know. Does. Being this present my phone in my day doesn't make me feel worse. Does it make it harder to get out of bed in the morning? Does it make it more challenging to enjoy my life? You know if that's the case then yeah fuck man we should all get off. We should all our phones and look up and you know watch the sunrise and talk to our people and be present in our lives. In a way dot I think our entire generation generations that are coming now. Aren't. You know. And it is a paradox to work in Yoga Yoga teacher and guide people through meditation and when to do all about through the online through the online world. Of course, it is. So there is something. So beautiful about it to that we have the access all of that but then for me is like the line is so blurred you know. Is it possible to just like record this podcast Yoga daily where we do meditations every week and journaling problems and all this actionable stuff that I love sharing. And Post something on the platform whichever platform you're choosing to be on? Once in a while or when you're inspired and the not be there is that possible? I don't know I'm very black black and white. You know it's like I'm either. I'm either not running ever hating running talking shit about running sitting on the couch. Or I run seventy five minutes straight. As fast as I can. I don't have the like casual. Hey Gopher run to three times a week you know like. Finds the ballots there. nope. It's all or nothing the other day I was like, Dennis? Maybe this whole crisis is what finally gets me to become a real runner and the maybe I'll sign up for like a pancake maybe I'll run a marathon. And he was like, okay how about how about we take a moment now it just get through this next week and see how you feel them because you know knowing me this is not gonNa last but yeah, there's that's driving for balance. You know we're all looking for that in our lives. So you guys know I love to end the podcast with like some word of wisdom or you know here was my story I play that to your life and honestly I don't know you know I don't know I know from now on I would love it if we were all a little more cautious around can't cancel culture or at least a little more present maybe. With the issue at hand before jumping on the train to crazy town. Or jumping into to threat and abuse and harassment. To take a moment to to to just maybe do our research right to learn about the issue of the thing that's happening like what's actually there behind that there's a lot about people out there. There's a lot of bad shit goes down. You know there are incidents and terrible things that people do where they absolutely deserved to to to have backlash you know. To not have the opportunities in the privilege that came from whatever platform they had because they've done something irrevocably terrible. And then there are times where people just make mistakes right? Where like where I really feel is where I fit in. You know this is make me a bad person now does this cancel out all the good I've done in my life that that feeling like the I think that's been the shittiest part is like, Oh, I'm not allowed to be human I'm not allowed to make a mistake you know. I've been on illness around for years and managed to. Do well, I guess because it's never happened before are allowed to make one mistake mistake and I'm out at it's over your the worst person though everything you are is terrible. Go back to your country like that to me is like. I have a hard time. Accepting that that that I can't be a human being. You know but it's okay for everyone else to make mistakes I don't think the people who were saying the worst things are flawless. You know people that never made mistakes in their lives. It's like, where is the humanity in this whereas the kindness like what is what does social media doing to us? And we know that the situation of the world, the situation of this island like there are so many factors that play a huge part in this and if we weren't where we were in terms of corona virus in terms of the economy, like no, this wouldn't have happened. So it's also you know the final stage. Final stage of the stages. Seven stages of grief is acceptance and hope. I'm not quite there yet I don't know acceptance is like I'm. I'm not there yet. Hope definitely not there I guess still in depression. Still. Sad. I'm still grieving morning trying to define what exactly it is a morning. But. I had I had moments of of just a lot of love also like, Hey, you know how much people suffering if they're able to do this how much? Like those people that that send those threats, those people that said the worst things. largest the threats but the worst abuse, the worst harassment. Like a girl island, she's a sister of someone who used to be a super close friend of mine. And her her name was in every common section every comment section every post I saw there she was telling the world what a piece of Shit I. Am how worthless I am how pathetic I am how terrible person I am I was thinking about her the other day like how does she how how? How's she doing? You know how is her mental health? How is like those kinds of people who who made it their job right to to tear my life apart or those kinds of people who shared photos of my kid and you know like, how? How are they doing? There is no way no way those people are are living fulfilling. Happy lives like are they feeling safe? In their bodies are they feeling safe in their homes? Are they? Okay No I doubt it I don't think you can I don't think you can speak that way or acted that way and also be okay you know. So we all know hurt people hurt people. So if anything like I definitely had those moments of like man, the island need compassion and kindness, and I would love to arrive at a place where I only feel that I can look at this whole situation and see it for what it is, which is suffering right a lot of pain lot of suffering. And how can I be of service to that? How can I help? Maybe in a way that I haven't before elevate that the service that we've done for ten years here like how can how can we go deeper? How can we take this and do something good. Like turn it around and. How I don't know the answer to those questions but I would love if that was the end result of this is that I felt more kindness and more compassion toward everyone on this island the than. Than that would be a good thing. Not There today though. Let's see about next week. So again, I WANNA. Thank you. Thank you for listening 's. Thank you so much. Thank you for checking in on me all the time. So. Many of you are so close I would love to leave you with a little action of the day or this week. Next time your present online or present social media how about we do two things? Next. Time your present old line, take a moment to ask yourself why you're there. Like? What's the purpose of you being there right now? Is it helping you right as it uplifting? Are you getting inspired because there's so much as brazen to source online? Is it. You know giving you great tips for self care as making you feel a part of the whole. Have you found unity interesting conversation are you learning? Are you growing wonderful? You know you don't know why you're there. Or. If you're there in argument or writing vicious things to people or upset when you're online or feeling pulled down or low or triggered, or depressed or numb. Numb I think is a big one for a lot of people. then. Get off right. Get off, take a breath, turn your phone off to something else, and then the second thing the next time you are presents with purpose a line to maybe if it feels good see, you can go out of your way to be kind right. There are tons of people who just need something uplifting though you know where like a kind genuine comment. Can turn their whole day around or give them hope or have them feel like they're not alone. Right. So there are ways for us to validate see people online and just share with them. Hey, I'm here if you need me. Or if you need my help I'm right over here. Hey, you're doing a good job. You're good enough. So easy. It's easier. I think I would love for it to be easier to be kind and unkind right and once we start getting into the habit of just be kind. Might, change our lives too. So. Thank you guys for listening I. Love You so much I. Appreciate you so much. And I'll see you next week. Thank you so much for listening to this week's. If you enjoy the show show listen to subscribe to other great episodes of the podcast conversations from the heart. You can find all of them girl dot com, apple podcasts, spotify, or wherever you normally get your shows don't forget to leave a review while you are there. Thanks to the folks at Keita's thirteen production work, and of course big. So my sponsors please support them the way they support this podcast. I'll see you next week. in.

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January 15: An embarrassment involving riches

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January 15: An embarrassment involving riches

"Hi i'm michelle. Shepherd host of uncover sherman any from cbc podcasts in nineteen. Ninety nine fifteen year old charmian on devel- disappeared on her way to a job that police believed in exist. For months later her remains were found in a wooded ravine. I revisit the case that a stayed with me for over twenty years ever since i first covered it as a cub crime reporter for the toronto star you can find uncovered share meany on. Cbc listen on your favorite podcast app. This is a cbc podcast. Hello i'm carol off. And i'm chris houten. This is as it happens. The podcast edition tonight and embarrassment involving riches. Our guest has watched his bitcoin stash grow to be worth hundreds of millions of real world dollars. But all you can do is watch. Because he can't remember the password that would allow him to access it a grim view as ottawa issues. Dire projections of where the pandemic will go from here. A toronto doctor says his colleagues have been told to prepare for. The moment went over wealth. Hospitals will face heartbreaking life and death decisions glass half empty canada's only maker of mouth loan hand cut crystal is raising a goblet and calling it a day after covid nineteen shattered. Its sales border patrol skateboarding. Magazine thrasher celebrates its fortieth anniversary this month. Proving the sport has staying power. And sodas print no harm one foul. A bird that was believed to be from america was set to be killed under australia's strict biosecurity rules. But now joe. The pigeon will be spared and a multiple choice question while goofing around on facebook. A guy named paul o'sullivan discovers a bunch of other musicians named paul sullivan. And that is the origin story of the paul o'sullivan as it happens the friday edition radio with its finger on the polls twenty twenty one maybe off to a crummy start for the rest of us but bitcoin holder still have plenty to cheer about after a drop in value. The crypto currency bounced back in a big way this week trading today more than forty four thousand dollars per coin. That astonishingly is three times. The currencies october value and for people like stephan thomas. It theoretically means big bucks after all. Mr thomas was such an early adopter of bitcoin that he produced one of the internet's most watched videos extolling its virtues. What is bitcoin. Bitcoin is the first decentralized digital currency. Bitcoins are digital coins. You can send through the internet. Compared to other alternatives number of advantages. Bitcoins are transferred directly from person to person via the net without going through a bank or clearinghouse. This means that the fees are much lower. You can use them in every country. Your account cannot be frozen and there are no prerequisites or arbitrary limits a ten year old video explaining bitcoin produced by open source developers. Stephan thomas. Needless to say. Mr thomas knows a thing. Or two about the crypto currency and. He owns a bundle of it when he created that video in twenty eleven. He was paid in bitcoin. Seven thousand in two bitcoins to be exact worth an watering hundred. Twenty one million dollars canadian today so he would be a very rich man right now if he could find his password which he cannot. We reached stephan. Thomas in san francisco. Stephan how is it possible that one measly little password stands between you and hundreds of millions of dollars. It's a really good question. Yes as you as you heard the video. Just now. We very interested in bitcoin. Back in two thousand and ten and we wanna bounty for for making that video that you heard and once we had one that bounty i was planning to kind of invested in in kind of promoting bitcoin telling more people about it but then one day when i was trying to access it i realized that Yet due to a technical glitch the the copy that copy that was using had failed. I had to backups. Are wasn't too concerned with that. Initial moment but then when i tried to access the first backup it wasn't it didn't work and the second backup is the now famous secure. Use beefsteak encrypted. Usb stick with the ten tries. and that's that's when i knew was in trouble. Okay so this happens right and we all know we lose their passwords and saw little thing comes up when we're going to our bank whatever and said that did forget your password in and you push it and then you go through business of changing your passwords. So that's not available to you know a. Bitcoin is a decentralized system. And so if you're bold your bitcoins like i did a completely independent wallet. So not with an exchange not with a bank note with any kind of institution but yourself than it's just like cash. It's like gold. If you lose it you lose it. There's no recovery process for that. I mean since then a lot of people have come up with all kinds of clever solutions like metal wallets. You can put down your your secret keys. Things like that But most of that didn't exist back then back then you had to kind of come up with your own solution. Apparently had to do a very good job of that. How many people are like you. Who have their password someplace. They can't find it. And can now because we know that this has been a very good year for bitcoin. How many people you think are not able to access their fortunes in your article about this. They had an estimate which was something. Like one hundred billion one hundred billion dollars locked up in these wallets and so you can imagine it's probably thousands if not millions of people who are in my situation. What is it like for you i mean. How many sleepless nights do you have thinking about the fact that you have hundreds of millions of dollars that you can't get at so the way that it ended up playing out was After i realized i lost the coins i was completely destroyed. I think back to that. It's it's it's hard to wrap my head around how i felt that couple of weeks. I tried everything. I would stay up all night trying different ideas for how to recover it just or just like staring at the ceiling for hours and then after a couple of weeks of that i got to a point where i started to realize that. Yeah the chances of recovery were not very good and we'll get into what that last little glimmer focus but at the time at least i sort of had to make a decision right like either i let us define the rest of my life and i keep thinking back to it. I just you know like you said loosely for the rest of my life or i just face the facts that the money is gone. He's gone and move forward. And i get back to work and i chose the latter. Okay so what's the last glimmer of hope. So the steak with the ten tries like the is a way to take a scanning electron microscope and take apart the physical chip and really go into the silicon chip in take away layer by layer like a few atoms thick and with that technique. You should be able to bypass that limit of ten. And then you can have a supercomputer. Try billions of passwords per second. Now the problem is that first of all that requires a specialist laboratory. Expensive people can do it. and even. Then it's it's gonna heightened risk it could just fail and then the ship is destroyed. And you don't get a second try so back then. It definitely wasn't worth it. I think now Probably is worth it but it still requires a lot of organizing logistics. And even then it's it's not guaranteed gamble so what happens any hundreds of millions of dollars now is that sort of locked up unable to act be accessed by these people. Where does it go. Who gets it. That's a really interesting question. Gets into economics. Because you know it's essentially because i'm not selling those bitcoins that means that There's a little bit less supply in the market. And so potentially the the prices infinitesimally hire other holders in theory in theory profit. Although you have to imagine like because of the because of this risk maybe there are people that may be invested crime. Because they're worried about this and so maybe that of makes up for it and kind of that reduces the price. There are those who are saying that this now just belies the the value of investing in this kind of bitcoin for all the advantages. It has that you don't have to deal with institutions and governments that obviously it has its his pitfalls and so are you one of those are you one of the people who think that maybe this kind of currency is not a good idea so this experience has definitely changed. My opinion about bitcoin in terms of i was one of those people. It was very excited about you. Know everyone can be their own bank and that sort of thing in once it happened to me. I realize like this can happen to me. It was like a professional bitcoin expert than like. I know there's lots of bitcoin experts listening right now saying that this could never happen to me but for me personally like i i kind of was very humbled by that experience. I said that you know probably for most people average people. It's probably not a good idea to be on bank. I think it's really nice that we live in a free country where we can have the choice. We can pull their bitcoins if we want to. And i think that's right that i would fight for but at the same time i think. That's you know as a practical matter For most people's better to hold their bitcoins with the custodian like a an institution that specializes in securing and storing bitcoins. We tend to my idea right. Well not really. Because it's still independent as an asset class from the national governments right like we were living in a world where governments are printing money to support the economy and and the spring a lot of big risks. And so i think it is valuable for bs classes. that people can can seek refuge. Oh all right well sounds like something people should think twice about before they get involved with. And that's cautionary tale from you. Thank you steffan. Good to talk to you thank you. Thanks for stefan. Thomas is the founder and ceo of a micro payment service called coil. He's also the unhappy owner of seven thousand bitcoins. He can't access. We reached him in san francisco and for more on this story. Visit our website at cbc dot ca slash ai. H what began as a dream. Nearly thirty years ago is about to end due to covid. Nineteen in nineteen ninety-three renowned irish musician. Dennis ryan of ryan's fancy fame had the idea to start a crystal company in his adopted home of halifax he eventually sold his share of the company. But he's still saddened by the news. That nova scotian crystal has announced its shutting. Its doors at the end of february. We reached dennis ryan in halifax then is. How did you hear the news. That nova scotia crystal shutting down i. I started a new for the last few weeks talking to some of the workers and stuff and who's known for the last nine years and call me a few days ago saying that she was going to make the announcement yesterday and they're going to down the end of february so it's just been a bit of a shock for all of us mind. Your shop wasn't open downtown on how to actually the last few months on all driven by cova some construction in the area but as you probably know how facts has a fantastic summer season was like a hundred and twenty-five cruise ships The waterfront is just tourists and of course this past year has been a talking astronaut cruise ships and very different tours and and campbell told you that was the reason why was because of the the cruise ship trade that there was no longer available to them. They do huge business in the retail. Business reis and develop a lot. You can business to the tourists that come with more than the shop is so close. Down at production stem wears it. Be part of the business and And it takes probably three or four people to make one piece of glass assistance. The only company in north america and maybe wanted ill and he wants in the word that everything is made from scratch and made both gone handcuffs. And you have two or three craftsmen on the fact farm. Sometimes for that are very toast. Which under passing the the tools that you see our stuff. Go iron from one to another to do with different. They are different techniques and strategies and stuff and that's that's really it wasn't covert Compliant so speak right so yeah because because it's such an intimate work isn't it that kind of artisan it'll craft and and so you said you talked to some of the workers. Some of the are these people. They're these are exceptional craftsman. What did they say to you. But how they felt i since the announcement was made. Well i d- announcement adjustment. And i was talking to production manager. Who's the son of one of the founders. So they brought over from mine and he was a master man and he married canadian. Then blah blah blah and a lot of those. The older guys came over You know we talked seven forty people working there and ninety percent of the employees or nova scotia's and then i think they're shafter put. Some of them are surprised. You know you that the business was the last ten years but The meet them all over the the great people and they are dispirited. Undersold at the business If you have the classic if nothing full disclosure for me. I have some very cherished pieces of crystal from nova scotian crystal and nine. I'm not alone so many people have that and it's just just maybe describe why it's different. I mean the patterns are very distinctive and a speak to canada into nova scotia. Maybe describe them for us where they are a prominent patterns that the citizens have which is obviously named after citadel hill You know the inverness pepper. You don't from the annapolis you're bliss pattern so they're all to do with areas and You know the greatest industry you know the people that used and each piece individually made you always got to keep it in the back of your mind but nothing parkland these days Just modern era. I'm not sure but There's no two classes any class to identity. Same they're all. The cody has done with the guy. And touching to feed of the cover and a good carter takes five or six years to learn his craft and Laws can take many years and the become a master craftsman. He's probably for ten years and they just love what they're doing some things that looks boring but these guys generally and ladies though for joy and You know people that have used our product. I mean take local people. Frigging kid and maury Off places caroline Sting orthopedic collins feed their castro so now a because it is so celebrated its international and i would so it was just doing great guns as business. So do you think that. The nova scotian. The government's could could've stepped in business kind of a logical business for a to help survive the pandemic. Yeah i i do agree with you. But i i'm not a person I think i'd have. I'd have been six or nine months ago. It might have been different but everybody has got their handouts at our government. And i think this is important because i think once we get through this period here over the next six months or nine months or a year you know. The government should give a helping hand. I would i presumed they're they're they're they're pursuing that avenue but I just very sad to me because somebody to the baby. And i know i haven't been involved in her tortilla fourteen years but i was responsible for building her. Bring those guys to canada and they've been a great addition to our community in more ways than one. It sounds like you don't believe this is necessarily a complete end of nova scotia crystal. Do you think it will rise again. What a great day for song. I i yeah i think it between you and be divorced even though dish hundreds of thousands of people listening hopefully twitter but i think the moment and anything i can do to have to maybe do something into summer. That'd be more. Let these guys out. And i know all these Is there hoping to get together with them all over the next week or so and have a drink from a nice nova scotia christie's action reema little and we'll see what happens in the future holds. Dennis i hope you're successful with that. And i really appreciate speaking with you. Thank you thank you all right by dentist. Ryan is the founder of nova scotia crystal. He was in halifax the company. He founded is shutting. Its doors at the end of february. In recent days. People around the world have been deeply troubled by the story of joe. Joe was a pigeon who was facing death suspected of entering australia following a long journey from the us in violation of australia's bio security rules. Joe's dire situation even inspired a question to australia's acting prime minister. Michael mccormack the not aware of plot or flaws or future Have it look into it and get back to you. Joe jacquez come You know why that Has not made ask strict biosecurity masur's thing Bad luck on the fly. Home or faisal winstons following those comments. We've learned that. Joe's prospects are looking brighter. It turns out the birds origin story was wrong. Officials believe joe who was named for. Us president elect. Joe biden is highly likely a local and say his leg bands. Suggesting he's from across. The pond is a fraudulent copy of a legitimate one. The bird showed up and kevin kelly birds backyard last month. Yes that's celli hyphen bird. We reached him an officer. Australia south east of melbourne. Mr kelly very. Did you have any idea that the bird that landed in your yard would be make such an international flap. If i had an i took me down a rabbit hole. I ended up going dan. I think just letting way okay. So we've had since that tape clip that we listened to the acting prime minister. There's been a lot of downs for joe the pigeon. What did you make of the reaction to the news that he had landed in australia. It just sort of got out of control really the originally when i When on radio on what they call the rim fall he was just trying donna. Some more information. So i could try and Get the book back to its Whoever owned it. And why did you believe that it belonged to somebody well ahead of band on his league and when it first arrived in very wakened site and many to capture it and our got the details on the band and contacted a local teaching association and guidelines day tells the diker the let me know who earned it by. He said well. We have gotten a record of that. Particula banding said in my son who lives new boy code in a look on good glenn nets through up. That could have been in american good. It was xia merican rising. Peach union bain so. We thought tom and what did then. Because then lots of information came in suggesting that it was that there was a bird a pigeon. Missing from oregon. What what this gives us that background when we did some of goodling initially with the on the ban it had up you. I you twenty five six double two and when we put that in came up as crooked for the rice or something anyways crooked and when we logged onto that website it was a pigeon racing saw and it shied. This particular bird was registered to some holland. Loft was code and we touched that part of the website aboard up the record on the burn chided burning. Four or five rice in the last race was on twenty nine book title. Ashi and all the data shied that hadn't arrived anyway. So that sorta going. Whoa watch it and then try and get more information we talked in. I up a you brought up the american rising preaching union Good sought so put the details into that. And i came back several days later and said it belongs to a gentleman in montgomery alabama. So what would the theories as to how this bird if it had been from the united states. How did it end up in australia. What people project it well at the time the only thing i could think of was my venus storm is something it'd plain black thing blind off course and ended up i've water in atlanta on the but will we leave is not far from the action and the by across drier and once it. Soa land flu often happened to be flying across. We have a bit of a water featuring the guide and it was obviously thirsty. Landed there and decided to stay because it felt cypher august. Why is it then. It became a story that the bird was going to have to be destroyed. So why what was behind. That received a phone call from a from the strain agricultural department saying it's come to announce that you have a peach could have come from america. And sorta said it's illegal to import a bed without loss in the latin Haven't imported these good. And she said well it's illegal to capability that is Coming from overseas unless gulford a civil. I'm not keeping us the landmark backyard things to one liberty and then she said while we need to common capture the good and instead also gonna quarantine she said. I will euthanize it. Too rough and Anyway that's was the Initial contact and in the fine call light of that die from gentleman sadie binoche by the agriculture department to come into a risk assessment on the property. I wasn't there so i just said listen. You can't enter the property. Because i'm not. Hi you're welcome to have a look from the outside and it's sort of where it was at that point is okay and so just at the point where it was looked like joe was going to be on death row. Wh what is it that they discovered about the pigeon that got him. This reprieve yesterday One of the journalists nine rang me and said listen. the melvin peach rescues trying to reach out to you and guide me a novice and i contacted him and i said listen. The pigeon we believe is actually a local pigeon. Apparently pigeon breeders in victoria or melvin. Use a baynes eichenbaum online. For some reason the baynes they use be american. Rising designation of a maximum has exactly the same information. The differences is not currently is stamped with on the american bands like a copyright something mushroom show and this region had this band on and dice. It we have five other pigeons lost with cima baynes. So that was. It wasn't an american at all. Joe was a local bird. Think apparently not even a racing pigeon right now. he's a like. I said he's took something or other. They think okay. So he's been spared and is he happy and your water. Features still yeah. You'll see a this morning evan. Been a drink you sitting on yard somebody okay. Well i'm glad that that You have joe joey since. He's an australian bird now. Yeah exactly so we'll Kp me out and get back to leading a bit of a normal. All right mr jelly burt. Thank you now a problem at all. Thank you very much. Bye-bye i was kevin kelly bird in officer australia. Speaking about joe the pigeon and there's more joe's saga on our website. Cbc dot ca slash ai. H in canada. Hockey is the sport that gets a lot of people up in the us. It's football but in surinam birdsong competitions. Although no one really gets that riled up if anything it's a meditation but the competition is still fierce people. All across the south american countries spend several thousand dollars several years training their songbirds and every sunday morning at dawn. They gather in the capital paramaribo with their avian athletes. Then they wait for hours in silence. As referees take note of the birds performances on a chalkboard a bird song competition insert him is our sound of the day. I couldn't tell who was winning the soothing sound bird seeing in paramaribo surinam part of a weekly competition. That was our sound the day. Hi josh block. Host of uncover escaping nexium from cc. Podcasts i pull back the curtain on the secret of self help group that experts call a cult and follow one woman's heroin journey to get out. The podcast was featured in rolling stone magazine and named one of the best podcasts of two thousand and eighteen in the atlantic. Listen to uncover escaping nexium on. Cbc listen or wherever you get your podcasts from cbc podcasts and the fifth estate brainwashed a multi-front investigation into the cia's experiments in mind control from the cold war an mba all alterra to the so called on terror. We learn about a psychiatrist to use his patients as human guinea pigs. And what happens when the military and medicine collide. Listen to brainwashed on the cbc. Listen up or wherever you get your podcasts. The numbers of ottawa. Today were dire. The federal government announced its latest national cove modeling. The newly released projections show the pandemic accelerating with twenty thousand total deaths in canada by the end of next week. That's about the same time that a serious slowdown. At one of pfizer's vaccine plants is supposed to start cutting into canada supply. But for michael warner and his colleagues. This is about more than numbers. Dr warner the medical director of critical care. Toronto's michael garron hospital after we know the vaccine flow is going slow While the modeling shows numbers of infections going up. What is that going to look like in your icy you well. It's hard to know carol because the bulk of the vaccines. we know. we're coming along time for now for most of the population. I think the good news is at least tale. There's a dedicated effort to make sure that our long-term care home residents healthcare workers are vaccinated. I and that's where much the mortality and morbidity has come but the delay in getting the vaccines on the grand canyon will prolong the duration of this pandemic and the public health restrictions on tuesdays. And of course you're on the front line and so this is in your icu. dealing with a memo. That's telling you to prepare for the possibility of trash. What does that mean when you dealing with patients. This is what i have to do. So for every patient that is in the hospital de needs. Icu or could need you. We're supposed to complete a form called these short term mortality risk you another physician based on that short term mortality risk at level. One triage. we're only supposed to offer life support to those patients who had a greater than twenty percent chance of being alive a year from then but level three the bar rises to greater than seventy percents. And if the patient doesn't meet those criteria then we do not offer my support. We offer the palliative care and they will die and That's a decision that we have to make based on the criteria that are given to us based on our clinical judgments -sarily how we make those decisions about who lives in dice. I don't know carol. I've i've never had to do that before. There's no course in medical school called triage. There's no rotation and veterans. He called not offering life support. Because you don't have enough beds in canada we're not used to this in the developing world. This is their reality. But we're fortunate here to really never have faced this before. And i don't i don't look forward to it. I hope it never happens. I think it would be akin to battlefield medicine. Whatever you know. Military physicians have to deal with in war zones. 'cause i haven't done that before so i imagine will be some evolution from what is written on a piece of paper right now. Are you prepared for that for mentally prepared to do that. No i'm not. I i to be honest. I'm just looking at what's right in front of me. What's right in front of me as i said in the hospital right now. Are you know. Fifty percent of my patients the icy of covid nineteen other patients about my age In the icu copa. Nineteen their families. Aren't with them We've had zoom meeting stay between patients and families as patients are expected to die the next day or two potentially so it's It's hard to think about triage when you're caring for patients on a continual basis in such a difficult situation where much of the the human touch are being a physician has been taken and and because we can't see the patient through the eyes of their family members that their family members aren't there with them. You say you said elsewhere. The ten on -tario feels like you're hurtling toward cliff. Yeah it's i mean. Nobody knows what the future will hold that this is. I mean this is a numbers game but there are people behind the numbers. The people are are real and they're dying in their suffering and they're alone but the numbers will lead to more faces in our future and the ice use across this problem and today we were moving patients from toronto to kingston. I mean that's never been done before because kingston is bad but tronto doesn't have that any already have people who can't get go into see their loved ones who are In these i see us and if they are now going to be so far away it must be are both patient and family even more more alienating. If there's a sense of comfort in knowing that your mother father sisters in a hospital five kilometers away as opposed to two hundred fifty but we have to remember that most patients get cova nineteen from household contact which means that if they're sick their entire household is iceland for at least two weeks which when means it ended life. That could be zoom. Call instead of you know. Holding your mother's hannah she dies and i've been in so many of those experiences those scenarios and i remember everyone in there so crushing the worst thing ever and i don't watch them upon anyone and i mean i- parents. I've away five children. I couldn't imagine being with unless they take their last breath. But that's the reality. Just non terro in canada the entire world right now. I have been hearing you and reading you your comments for for months now since the beginning of this. You've been a voice for all of us in ontario's to what is like in the icu. And i just wondered what toll this is taking on you. Well you know. I really wish i had nothing to say. Wish i could just focus on on my craft of being a physician being a father and a husband and being with my family. But i think it's important that the public here's we you know. Everyone has a different people in my view from the phone lines. And you know. I'm not afraid to say certain things because i think and public health physicians and politicians have demanded a lot of different things other than what i have to manage need to understand what's happening behind the scenes and many people don't have a mental model. Kobe looks like 'cause hasn't been around a long. People have seen people die of cancer and a stroke or heart attack. But you've never seen someone die from kobe. Unless you've seen it and i've seen it many times and most of the public hasn't i think communicating that to the public is a service that they can perhaps adjusted behavior they need some coaxing and politicians and to take your covert. That's a little bit different from what i've seen so far. Hopefully i can have some influence for the better tactile owner. Thank you to kick. Michael warner is the medical director of critical care at toronto's michael garron hospital that's where we reached him Last night a carbon monoxide leak in a saskatoon apartment building sent twenty nine people to hospital but it could have been a whole lot worse. An emergency room doctor at royal university hospital rang the alarm bell when he realized that a patient he was treating had all the signs of carbon monoxide poisoning and when the fire department arrived at the apartment the levels inside were as high as four hundred parts per million with levels. That high can die within two or three hours. Gene romero lives in the building and her entire family was feeling sick. During the day on thursday she told. Cbc saskatoon about the moment. They realized something was really wrong. We're just sleeping and that kids were doing their thing. Then we heard the what do you call this one. The fire people came then. I look at the window. The fire people went into school. So i just didn't think about it. Maybe it's fire or something. Then my kids went right away and me. We have to go out like fire. People is here. that's when everything. Dan de had to check their level. I guess the level of carbon monoxide in the building was three hundred. Yeah or something like that. Yeah dan ambulance. Everybody is here then. Even have that translate to translate to keep us warm in case. We don't have nowhere to go. And i stayed in my vehicle. My family was in the big the biggest ambulance you can ever see and then later on the talk them to City hospital then. I was still here waiting for the instruction from the fire people then after a while they said oh jessica in there and go to your family because we don't know where to go yet so i went to the hospital. I wasn't feeling great either. I thought oh. I work nights and i didn't have much sleep. Maybe it's just a headache or something. Dandy check my level. It's high so the foro bus were oxygen. Yeah scared very scary. Because i am scared for my family because i'm supposed to work night. What if it happened midnight. When i'm gone and my family are sleeping. I came home in the morning. They might be dead. So that's that's the thing with carbon monoxide because you cannot smell it right you want to be no it happened. I was gene romero speaking with cbc saskatoon reporter danza cranky about a carbon monoxide leak in her apartment. That sent twenty nine people to hospital. You may not have read the magazine but you've almost certainly seen its logo. The word thrasher in bold letters for a longtime spouting flames plastered on t shirts telephone poles and skateboards over the decades. This month marks the fortieth anniversary of thrasher magazine a print publication from the early eighties that in print on like so many of its peers. It's motto is skate and destroy and it certainly has destroyed the competition but it's also built things including a community of readers unlike pretty much any other as a kid. Michael burnett was among them now. He's thrashers editor in chief. We reached mr brunette in san diego. Michael you're now the editor in chief of this publication. Whatever your earliest memories of reading thrasher I found it in a punk. Rock record store in lubbock texas and was just mesmerized by the images. Because i didn't. I didn't realize that skateboarding could be this. I didn't understand that there was tricks and people flying through the air. I'd only seen like the banana boards of the seventies so it was Completely mesmerizing because this As a kid in the eighties in texas. Are you really fighting to find any scraps of culture or something outside of traditional sports but now because it is counterculture and his his forty years of this counterculture this time things have changed that people. There's just so much online. There's some does. Youtube people have all kinds of access to the things that you saw for the first time in this magazine. Why do you think thrasher is still around forty years later i feel like we have this very dedicated audience that we really are in touch with. We really live and breathe it with them. We're not covering it from afar. The people that work for us to people that photograph and video do all that stuff are skateboarders. they're really meshed in it We also have an advantage that a lot of other publications don't have in that. We have a dedicated industry that were very involved with so our advertisers are we have long term partnerships with. We're not at the whims of the nabisco ads. We also have worldwide skate shops. Which a lot of places are kind of the hubs of the skateboarding community and so we're we have relationships with those in a big part of hanging out at the skate shop is checking out the new thrasher when it comes in and my sense is it from from people who talk about thrasher. Is that the reason why it survived when so many other skateboard magazines haven't is as just about the merchandising and it's it's about it's about the art is about the language your motto is skate and destroys it. Not yeah yeah. We're it's a an ongoing cultural experiment that that is skateboarding boarding and different people around the world. They invent it in their own way in their own community and then we kind of we get to sample the best of that stuff and Showcase the most exciting things and it is once you get in there especially as a teenager. I just remember. There's so much to learn so much to discover you can make art and make videos and there's music that goes along with it it's really its own ecosystem. And what is this story that tells about skateboarding. It's that get out there and do it and that skateboarding is all of us. You know you. There's no way to cheat at skateboarding. It's it's not like a sport. it's it's you aboard the concrete and it really Separates die hearts from the lookie loos pretty quick and what's the conversation because it seems that skateboarders always seem to be a the landscape for places to escape like just to do is is i mean. Is that part of the conversation definitely. That's part of the That's part of the the wild aspect of it is taking advantage of parts of the of the infrastructure in the landscape. That other people are ignoring. You know an empty pool to most people is. Oh i guess we're not swimming whereas that's such an exciting thing to skateboarders you know we're often. In the drains were in the sewers you know the sidewalks and the stairs and the handrail. The entire world got turned into escape. Park through the imagination of kids riding skateboards. Now the the thrasher over these decades Especially on the covers. It's been pretty white and Almost exclusively male right. So is that starting to change definitely I think everyone's realizing they need to rethink rethink their assumptions and and work harder. And we're definitely that's a big part of our mission and The the exciting thing. Now is that through social media. We're able to find so many different people more readily than the old model of having five photographers in the entire world. And we're really It's really cool. Because like i said. Skateboarding is so individual. And when somebody has their own take on it from a different point of view or a different background that to me. Just enriches skateboarding so much. It makes the whole whole thing better more interesting but like everyone in everything. There's lots of work to do and a lot of assumptions to reconsider. So we're right there with it doing our best. And are you considering a geriatric version of thrasher for those older skateboarders. Now who's knees. Need to know how to recover and have taken on a probably a lot of wounds. You know it's funny because skateboarding pretty young. But this is the. We're getting to the point where we're having lifelong skaters so the assumptions of like how long you can. Skateboard are being questioned. All the time one of the original innovators of modern skating tony. Alva- is thinki- sixty one and can still jump stairs and scape pools and It's really It's funny to see like what can you do. Because i remember as a teenager hearing a pro skater was twenty three and i was like oh my gosh. Twenty-three that guy to hang it up. And and now i'm in my mid forties still happily skating not not like Not like the kids but in a way that enjoy you know macos good to talk to you. Thank you thank you michael. Burnett is the editor in chief of thrasher. The skateboarding magazine celebrates its fortieth anniversary this month. We reach mr brunette in san diego. There's a point usually midway through a concert when the singer danes to introduce the rest of the band but if the paul o'sullivan band ever plays a show. That probably won't happen. You might be thinking gav. Paulo sullivan is the front man. He's obviously a massive egotist. Anyone who named the band after themselves is well. Yes no yes. Singer-guitarist paul o'sullivan did name the band after himself but he also named it after the other singer guitarist and the bassist and the drummer the policy. Ullivan band is made up of four guys named. Paul o'sullivan invade. I bet you and this is crazy. But here's so call me. Maybe it's hard to live ri- at shebang so call me. Maybe but is the policy ullivan band with their version of carly. Rae jepsen call me. Maybe that's from their new ep. Internet famous which came out a couple of weeks ago it was recorded remotely not just because of the pandemic but because the four halls leave hundreds or thousands of miles apart tour in the us and the other two are in england and the netherlands. They've never all been in one place at the same time. Here's baltimore maryland. Paulo sullivan telling. Cbs how they came together from so far apart. Cbs added the overly loud music. 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The Making of Dawson Modern Dentistry | NINE

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The Making of Dawson Modern Dentistry | NINE

"The guys this is. Dr ashley dawson. And i'm super excited to share by journey with you and what it takes to build this start up from the ground up. I hope that my story adds value to your practice career. And even your life and austin hope the you can learn from the successes and challenges because boy will every challenges ahead so buckle up and join me on this journey. Are you ready for this season. Let's do this. What's up ashley. Pay michael how's it going. It's going pretty good. It's not as hot today over here. But how's it like over there. Pretty stifling on wash my dog yesterday. Like six in the morning and i was already basically like eighty something degrees shelter and got. My car was a good old ninety eight just this a little bit hot man for the listeners wondering not wondering but like we were talking right before we pushed record and it's kind of weird right 'cause like we don't want him say anything because we want get like our initial reactions while recording so we don't want to say anything beforehand. Yeah is lying. Skew the initial reaction or water down the initial reaction Word i'm trying to us. I'm not that good of an actress. So but I also appreciate everybody just recently. Actually i don't know if you've noticed on your end but on our end in case anybody has any questions or concerns they can just go to the making of a podcast dot com or wherever. You're listening to this show. Naunton go to the website but people were sending in a ton of questions like about your your startup process. Like la- yeah. I haven't seen a ton. But i've had some people reach out to me via email or facebook messenger and of course. I'm not a consultant. I'm not gonna pretend like. I know a lot but i can at least share my journey but no it's been really nice You know reaching out to people in just trying to give them kinda my two cents at least my mayan. I haven't seen a ton of questions. But i like to see you know what other questions come your way. I'm gonna see how we can get like some of those on the show command. Assuming i've been better about listening to my episodes. So i am going to slow down when i speak and i decided to back from the microfilm because i was way too close so everybody from here forward i will be much better podcast. You get your like this closer. I know as like my lips are like basically on the microphone. Now i know better. Yeah it's it's it's i honestly one hundred percent. I don't listen to myself. I read a book where they say you should right like they said. Look at your work. We catch your progress. You can get better and better. But writing. like ma'am voices super high pitch and it goes even higher pitched a great voice. I don't know i'm so used to it now. i think it's I'm happy that you listen to yourself though and you can do that all i needed because i was basically cringing the first two episodes low. That's what i sound like. And then and then i got the microphone and learned how to back up from the microphone. Is just a gradual progression. Just like you know owning startup. Does the rest of your family listened to you. I think my dad does. My mom probably doesn't even know how to podcasts but i think my dad's in china was dude. I've been telling more and more people like some of the vendors i've been working with so yeah they're all. Al check it out and yeah getting the word out there until some of the vendors like if you wanna be on only a great job. I'm just gonna only ten thousand dollars. I'm just kidding awesome. Alrighty so this episode we're gonna be talking about systems all about. And i know you just took something about from yes so as everyone probably knows if this is your first episode i am descend member. Which is dental success network. Anna dr mark kostas helped create it. Anna has been tremendous. I love his podcast have listened to many many of his episodes and he has a really amazing group. The layouts kinda like facebook you can ask them questions different groups in there but i'm part of the mailing lists emails when there is a new course and there's a lot of Even though you pay for the membership a lot of great resources in there as so just got an email about systematisation jump starts of course on mike. This is exactly what i need. So i was able to sign up for the course that was included in my membership and i just finished it. Maybe a couple days ago. It wasn't very long. It kind of gave you a good overview a good starting-point from mary can build and they on their website they even had on. You know like an operations manual that you can kind of start within. Taylor make it fit your practice and they also have different protocols as well that you can modify a lot of like great starting points on. I feel like has been really helpful when you say course like is it like multiple videos or is it just like one really long video the and they feel like they do a lot of multiple video so i don't get any c. e. credit for this course in particular that i know of i can double check. I may be wrong about that. But so it was i. Think a series Maybe like sixteen videos and they range Bush shortest one was like a minute and a half probably up to maybe like five to six minutes. Now pending on the topic. Gotcha gotcha but it's interesting. I like that. I'm always wanted to pick marks brain a little bit more obvious and download everything in his brain into mine. And i think that everything would just be so much easier. I know all right so the systems that you are implementing right now in your practice. What systems do you already have. So we're we're kind of still working on it. But i have a brady general on boarding system. I think with anything that you do. And after Is just making sure that your foundational principles are set to is building making sure what is your vision. What is your mission. What is your core values on making sure that you understand. You know what those are because that's how you're going to hire people that's higher in a fire people. That's how that's how you're going to grow your team. And that's how if you're going to have to make corrective behavior. It's like hey this is through our core values which is going to go into my story row quick to get into before we start recording so on our core values is grit so g. r. It there's a book called grit by angela. Duckworth grades passion surveillance in the hard work. Sometimes that's what's gonna help Propel you for it. So i want my team to the gradient to really be hungry work hard but the g. is for a great patient. Experience are is respect others. I is an initiative in innovative in. T- is team protein player so i actually had a patient which kind of upset me because i like look. I'm a started just opened in this patient walks in and i hear her talking to friends and she's like you can take this please you know. She's like being really really pleased house. Eat my pizzas. Had methods down azgul and then just kind of see what things about in. She was being like really. I realize that she had a mask on. That had my practice down the street and Yes a huge discount. Yelling and then like oh. Did you go to that practice. Maybe i've been there a couple times and so then i'll send you is like. Are you gonna pull this in. Or what why. It's unlike we're trying to be is. We're a brand new start up here. We go on like core value. Number two is respect others and again like as you have your team or even even your patients died as we need to respect other. So obviously i was like all right. We'll ladies so i. I'm calling my friend so yeah. The lady was really mean in like very aggressive. So we ended up dismissing her me. I'm like okay this lady's pissed off. She's obviously got like this big swelling. She's not a pain twice. He was like we're going to have a free console. Just so i can say look then this kind of feel it out so anyway probably should just like by but i feel bad for people that are angry at the world. I heard that for a reason and sometimes people just need a hug. Sometimes they need so into them so anyway took guy big flying lady. You need to go to the er gatsby. Antibiotics so she went away. My dad's like joking. He is like all right. When you're gonna pulled up on my so. She was on schedule today. And guess what we pulled up into. Illinois is very cycle but if she is route to us we are not going to see her anymore because we at least prueher that we care we listen and we took the time to try to help her but then she was way nicer. She's like all year great. Dinners like blah blah blah. But yes so. Respect others. Will i gave i let it slide a one time but then i had to take control the situation and now she's being a lot more respectful. Wow i know. I might add like pulled up. I started and i was like boom. All right that's good. I mean well. It's not good. We'll your friend who was down the street. Is that a mint hill or know hill. Oh so they say by the civil bida her story behind that she just came in angry. Already guess so kind of you just storming here. Which like. no one should do that. And my dad always says you attract more flies with sugar vinegar. Oh be nice to people. But sometimes i'm like all right someone who's mad about some things like let me take the time and understand where you're coming from and then let me just give him a chance you but you get one chance my book. And then after that by cnn. You don't team like that. You know i wanna make. Everyone feels comfortable. But she's so much nicer now. What yes she was probably like mega. So does that rain mint hill smiles was like hey go to this person or she just found you guys as she is found us. Oh wow yeah go. At least it's work. That's interesting okay. I thought they were just like okay. So this is a hate me that much again. Okay go here. Gotta to her. The systems for this was what will first of all just making sure that if we do have a patient because i mean we obviously we want to have great reviews all the time so if you already have someone that might ill disgruntled upset and you know what swell like they send a text message will you can do like a pound. Dnd pound like in the notes like not send the review. When we check out the patient we need to make sure k- debris check it out. We complete the kirk procedures. Does this person need to be on. D. pound list is as long as it's in there before five o'clock or before the end of the day. I think you can tie like that. Needs to be like our end today. Checklists like dude. Does anyone needs to be on that list. And then honestly like. It's kinda like we'll how we're gonna make sure that you know. We need to dismiss the patient. Like what is that. What does that process. Look like. Chance keno like. What kind of letter do we need to send when we send it. How do we manage that so just a couple of things in ngos just like setting expectations for team again. Like i told him like this is not. This is not normal so much. Should i be treating you this way or treating us this way that. Give them the one tans but acted out. i'm not gonna make by team feel uncomfortable and it is what it is. We have to dismiss. A patient can really tried to be helpful to people. Because you don't you don't. I don't know what circumstances she's unnerved so like heck ahead to put down pizza for this out and then like a already had to wait in our pizza but on every year up there to my desk in the front. 'cause i know some people like do have your desk near the fried. Might now. i need to know what's going on because if someone is acting crazy up there we're add to correct the situation. Yeah i mean. I don't know that's a good lesson. I think just for anybody listening like oh maybe we should be. It wouldn't hurt to just be like a little bit more nicer right like to see. Just you have their like up super upset. You owe at least you were nice about it right. yeah exactly. yeah. I did. What i could i did. We did the best that we could try to help her. So take school us in right there. So then what is the end of day protocol them or the system for today yes. A- limousine try finance so we'll be honest most of the stuff. I did get friends from dr mark. Kostas on his because he's got a lot of amazing resources in there are still working on tweaking. It which friday rescheduled. So we're actually gonna try to treat friday as a little bit more of an admin day to go through this together with the team to end the day like making sure that we scan all the documents making sure you know checking the charts. We have all of the licensed in the insurances. Make sure that we're sending any claims. Do we need a sending a pre authorization Making sure everything's calm logs. If you call the patient is in the calmly because we have opened dental so you can put in the phone conversation that has to be there so adding that in there and then again this is there some still kind of tweaking it but yet you are petty cash because we have that for someone like brian get cream or are we. I need to separate my petty cash to like change. Because i actually had a patient pay cash. We have a ninety nine dollars. Special sided. give him dollar change something. I need to be able to separate it but right now we just have a sheet in there anytime we cash transaction. Just they have to write down sign out. You know who took out dollar putting in a hundred dollars. Printing out our production and our collections. And it'll show like our write offs and everything and then i'm just making sure that also that everything is set up for the next day and we have like a weekly maintenance a daily maintenance in like monthly quarterly so like tomorrow since my sister was out today. She's gonna come in tomorrow is to have my other assistant do it. But on that way she can go ahead and do her maintenance of like the Immolated sterilizer and flushing the lines. And everything like that so we have the printed it out in the back. I can pull it up on my also participate in the weekly and monthly maintenance. Now they just write down and they sign it and initially we've laminated at and then they just use a dry race. And then i go by and take a look at it. Just make sure every you know. Everything is initialled as far as maintenance right now again. We're still kind of tweaking. It but our weekly maintenance lead drain and resell the water on the m eleven on fridays. We change traps on wednesday. We drain cleaning inside of the ultrasonic on fridays. We do our sport tests on monday which we do it here. Allies time deacon senate but we do have something we can do in office the opportunities we soak the to being cleaned the chairs with On with don in water actually and we do autoclave motors on fridays. So when we use like the aside or the wipes sprayed clean the chair. We actually clean it with diluted dawn so that it's not breaking down the basically fake leather upholstery once a week so it's not just like kind of sitting on there so that's our equipment Told us today so we've been doing now at the end of the week. Monday's perjure lines for thirty seconds and monthly we drain fill us cleaner. Drain fill run cycle drain. Bill on the eleven we check our. I wash station. We flush it for thirty seconds foiled test. We do that every wednesday. we do. Our oil traps change gauze. If needed an-and we accordingly clean the mlm inside and out check washers to make sure everything is sealed. Replace if needed and we have a little pink maintenance book and then in the morning was the actually opening. We started side. We turn on our. Tv's in music. Obviously make sure it's team jackson. Turn on the water vacuum air. We put the clean instruments away. We get the trays ready for the day which allows him to get it together the night before like everything needs to be set up before you leave which has been helpful. Because when 'cause my assistant out it's at least already set out for the most part and then we can just kinda The patient after morning huddle will prepare for huddle so i have. The team print out the schedule for the day. Just go for it. Does anyone or anything like. Is there anything extra that we can. Maybe do the same day that way. We saved them a visit. I make sure your flex communicator is up that we have the inter office communication and then we just have like a picture of our logo on the tv in front of the patient when they walk in. I was going to have like a welcome. Welcome kerry mind industry. But i didn't pay for powerpoint on those in an. It guy was like yeah. I senior attorneys powerpoint. But you don't actually have it on my okay so me. We're gonna put her picture up. You can't just put anything like you know what i mean you google slides i think google docs google slug add. That's what my assistant said. But we just been doing our logo as a picture and it just fills the whole screen so silicon nice. But i wanted that personal touch to it so but he rain on my parade when he said you're not supposed to be using this right now you now have license. So what are you going to get powerpoint or no. I haven't on like my three front Computers but not in the opportunities. Maybe eventually but i mean is that really a need for it so it's not more like a need. It's not more like price. It's more of just like i don't see the need of it and i'm like you know spend more money. Save big where it's like. You buy something on amazon for like three thousand bucks and it's like do you want to get the insurance for two dollars. You like heck no more money. No exactly the next three years like no i know. Yeah right forget they go okay okay. So then you'd you'd you have that going on in the widows clues being like making sure that your workstation is clean been trying to get by on my team because they started leaving and then it just like a hot mess and i'm like when we walk in if we go straight to morning huddle. We had like a little scientist. Says we'll be right with you. Get in there sooner but we can see if you will. So i was like we look like like basically roaches you turn on the light and everyone scatters mosey patient pull up. We're like go but we do have a sign up there but they started leaving the area like real messy. And i'm like no. This has to be like cleaned up. Put your notebooks away. Everything needs to be like. It has to have a place as a home so just make sure that they're doing that. And then just checking the lounge like making sure because i don't have a cleaning company so downtime protocol. Check the bathrooms. Are we stocked up with our toilet. Paper like three roles. Each bathroom maintain that they share the paper towels of full. Like make sure we have so forgetting low right on my whiteboard right now. I'm just doing the ordering until i get my assistant. When she gets a little bit more settled be. I just like doing like some maintenance stuff in obviously like if someone has outstanding treatment we're at the point. We've had we have some treatment out there. We need to start calling people back in to making sure they get scheduled. Making sure hygiene is scheduled to So that's a on your downtime protocol. What's inside office. It's never like hey you know you should probably go out. And yes that on there too. And like i said haley's tunnel like our our main goto girl on. That's been kinda going out like making fires in talking with people in the community on but my other front desk girl. She used to work for startup back in ohio and so she also has some ideas issues. I wanna go out so it's been kind of like weird times like will wake up like we have an hour by the time we like. I do something out just thirty minutes but we definitely had a couple bigger blocks of opening and Mondays full we have folk day appearance. But on like windsor really slow. I realized that probably a wednesday. Just say hey like in the next couple hours Hit these places and get the word out. Yeah and your morning huddles. Like how long do you have them. Said what do you do there. We will talk about specifically. Do you get there before. All the employees are now I give their front does haley. she gets. You're not like super early but she's always she's typically the first one here. She was like eight minutes down the road or like five minutes down the road. So we have morning huddles fifty minutes before we see the first patient normally. I'm here maybe like four to five minutes before that. Like twenty minutes before we see and haley sometimes is here. Maybe she gets here around the same time as me. Or if not like a su- minutes. Before i do to dissolve your members have like a key to we have a keypad so gives punch in the code and then they have their own code to turn off the security system. So i know who's coming in and out actually takes their picture to. Oh yeah if someone you know deactivates it it actually snaps a quick picture so i know who use it in. That code is associated with haley or kylie are. Laurie system is up. Eighty and then i can see it from my thumb to okay. Well they don't know eighty two aca. Yeah i know. I was like eighty in my office. Oh gross oatmeal and then a guy comes in shows me all day. Okay this is up to date. This is modern this is how much do you pay for them on. I think i pay like fifty five a month don't a steep. I was going to do like a simply safe. But they did install do you like all the monitoring and a guy like he lives right around. The corner might neighbor from good old. Get me some green. She's the one who recommended him to me because he like even if the alarm goes off if the police come you will come in hubei. Kate what's going on in here like he. Yeah he'll like my neighbor. I guess her arm is going off. Authorities got called and stuff like that but he literally came they. Hey it's Make sure everything's okay. Like i got an alert. Because he's one of the managers or whatnot. He's really nice so he was like you know he goes above and beyond so i felt like you know we'll be safe and in the poor guy that like installed our security system like you could see equipment. came his all this drinking a roof. Nabc that he put the wire ecus you on the outside so the guy he came and he told the technician to change it. Technician was that very happy but he had a good attitude about it after the And that he was able to change us. He's like whatever you need. We're gonna make it work while this really cool okay. So then the morning huddle they get in earlier. You guys discuss basically what's going to happen throughout the day and then at the end of the day you guys kinda like regroup and say what. We missed what we didn't do. We definitely should do that so yet morning. Huddle i try to not let myself talk late more. Like the team guided outweigh no that. They looked at the charts. Like it's more like y'all presenting information to me like who resigned seeing. What are we doing on this. Anyone need any. Tlc like some special patients need that little extra time in tender care and then at the inundate no. We definitely need to do that. I'm glad you brought that up. Because at my one of my associate positions we started doing in the end of the day. It was super helpful. His in you can talk about what you know things that went well but then things that need improvement when it's happening not like a month later on women that one time say no. I don't know yeah okay. So then you implement the end of day type car okay and then what system do you have in place for like monthly performance reviews so raping actually needs to schedule those. I think i'm probably gonna friday morning. We're pretty open. Saw probably start doing those. I think dr paul at senate. His book had a really good like sheet. Where you can grade yourself you. Grade them nate grey themselves based on like core values. I think it was him detractors. Heroes right practice heroes. I don't know who is ham or dr my kostas. I have to look at my folders but they basically like have you score with bathing. Feather doing what you're doing and then it's like okay based on your core values than as far as your job responsibilities. How well do you think you're doing. And then that we kind of pair it up the okay. We'll maybe talk about okay. We're on the same page. You know that you need to improve odd to x rays or need to improve on here on time or if it's like you know i'm always here on time in you're like you're never time like let's talk about that. Were not on his page like Where that disconnect is not way getting is a chance to to evaluate themselves as well in just kind of be honest with what they need help with. Would he do well. And you're calling yourself out. Have you had any like. I dunno not i guess like red flags or like our acm. Or disagreements like We're not really gonna find a middle or you know what i mean where my big thing is. Patients have to be brought back on time care. Do we need to bump up more all. Do we need to cut a lunch ashore. Blake there sometimes. I get a little bit excuses for teams. But i was doing this note that nobody like. Where do we need to do. Like how can i make easy for you to make sure the patient back on time or like. Is this a communication thing. I'm sitting. He's having headsets. And that's pretty much been like my lot like muslim on associate positions. We have headset. So we're trying to use the flex. Intra office communicator. Bet i don't know if it's really working so that's something. They always a with the extreme ownership there. No bad teams only bad leaders young though unlike. Okay my team bad. I'm just not doing a job leading them and making sure that we get this without me being micromanager so that's something that i have to look at but sometimes like but i was no no nominal like why can i do to tweet to make sure that we're getting the patients back my sister. She's been doing it for seventeen years. So i'm trying to remember there. There's not the big that we're like. Okay we're not gonna ever get on the same page but definitely some things that had to be like okay. We'll i know you did see. Alas office tower doing things here and she's not really to super savvy with the computer so i'm trying to make sure that like she's putting the notes in like she was just putting the temple in no as i'm talking to the patient and they're important things you have to be typing it automatically know. Don't write it down on a piece of paper. 'cause you're wasting time having to write it down and then go back and put it in the chart as she saying it. Go ahead and type in always reorganized notes to you. How do you. 'cause i think in that book. It says when it comes to performance. It's not what you teach. it's what you tolerate. So then how do you tell them like. Hey like you know what i mean. Do you rang okay. I don't want anybody to ever wait again right like that's it the straw or like how do you tell people. How do you talk to them. Try to sandwich. i try to say. Hey you did this really well awesome job by or people say shouldn't say but just be like and we had to really make sure we get our patients. But keep doing this really. Well i try to like be like not like doing this wrong. Dennis ryan this wrong. It's like hey great doing this. We really make sure we have to get the pieces that they should not be. Sat one or two minutes late like wanted our once you know. Of course the front desk on their and they have to scan. The died their driver's license insurance card. But once you have to be paying attention to the computer is once they turn the you have to bring them back so there's no evan's buts about it so better about it in same with like the notes i'm like you have to. You have to type notes like is not known for negotiation. Like this is the time you know and i try not to talk down about my team in front of the patient but i'll just be like subtly. Okay great so. Laurie is go ahead and put that in the no. That's great information. He told me like boom. Are you paying attention. You need be of this. You know this could have so. Then what's systems be feel like are really lacking in right now I think there's a lot of moving parts right now. And i feel like we are kind of all a little bit all over the place like we have like some things like a general idea of yes we need to you know this is a morning. Huddle yeses the downtime but really dismiss. You're actually doing every single step implementation. Basically is what sums it up is important that we get through the essentials of bare minimum. Like these things have to be done. So i think just staying consistent and just making sure that i don't know that we're just staying on track with everything because it's so easy to say. Okay now i'm gonna go focus on this or here and then you let things kylie slip through the cracks with with like dude. I feel like that's one of the hardest things like ever is like i don't think can ever be one hundred. I know. correct me. If i'm wrong but i don't know if you can ever be one hundred percent every single thing could you know you can have to be okay with eighty percent like with some things you have to be okay with delegating that to a team member nine. Not it's not gonna be done always exact the way that you want to. It's not going to be a hundred percent but as long as it's sometimes as close as possible in good enough. You can't be everything to everyone and you can't do everything every second of the day. Have to be willing to be okay with a little bit of imperfection 'cause we're perfectionist if you like but this is not possible. Don't say that as a leader it takes strength to let go so we kind of have to like. Yeah i guess let go of perfectionism or something. I don't know i agree. I'm definitely going through that. I don't like ooh unlike. But i want to do but i'm trying to like make sure that i'm not blaming my team. Like i have to hold them accountable. I think that's really important. Dr mark kostas talks about that as well in addison. He lane about accountability so they have like accountability contracts like easier job responsibilities. You are green hold. Everyone accountable each month. Kind of going back to that end is feeling like hey like maybe that could be score sheets. Katie's your job responsibilities. Turn an to score sheets like okay like how do you think you're doing on these things that you agreed to do. And then going over the core values. How well thank. You're doing this setting expectations of what you want on your team. I think the. I need to do a better job of making those clear because i feel you keep adding. That's what's hard is like easy. These also need you ten other things too. They usually like free to think about the hat before. So i have to tell you. But i know it's gonna take time. Would you say is like the least important thing you have to do. Your like but it keeps coming up being like. I gotta do it. Probably getting the team decide. I have the kind of -bility sheets. Because i just made them or download them modify them like maybe two weeks ago and i have to get them to to sign it. Signed it no. I have one of 'cause. I added it after i actually had my last girl join on the twenty eighth as oh that sounds like a good idea so hers is ready to go the other two have been like tweaking it but i'm thinking like during our first meeting which will probably the do friday which y'all accountable. So the next time we talk. I need to have one on one with my team. Having them sign that okay. So you're going to have them sign the accountability sheet. Yes by friday okay. So then i don't see how that's a that's one thing that is out of the way that you can do. I know but i stay. That i've been saying like well. He hasn't hasn't been two weeks. It feels like two weeks last week. I'm elliot designer consign. It what changes did you make on there to pull it up because it was more so like office manager role. I don't have an office manager so it was like more so like oh like. Make sure that your team already has this. I'm the when you're in. That part is wanting to focus on the front desk administrator role more so at haley's printing out my production and collections that i've been saying So i can look at it as well but is more so i think breaking down the. Kpi's something that which. I know we talked about dental into hell. I think i said divergent dente last time on the last previous podcast but i meant dental intel donohoe on so wondrous my marketing company. They are starting to implement that into like their services so as able to get it hooked up but i think that my account manager still has to tweak it a little bit so that i can go ahead and go through those reports because i just had my monthly meeting with madura. She's the one that i've been working with that wonders which she's been absolutely amazing Ker but we still have to to get that active. I think happened with the setup Basically like mostly like break that. Dan like talk about like the new patients like looking at the number is in trying to make sure that with the goals and he was more so like that i deleted it so i can't really remember this overwhelming though. Like all the analytics numbers. But i think that's why a lot of dentist don't even try to pay attention to but as dr mark cost says you have to be sophisticated business owner and understand your numbers even if they're scary and i'm not goes numbers. My husband does all the excel sheets stuff so like just surrounding yourself by a good team. That's going to help explain it to you at least have a basic understanding. So you're not just trying to go the flow and pretend know look the other way and just pretend it's gonna galley you have to face your fears and do the best. She can to educate yourself tons of books out there. Addison actually has a book by the numbers. Actually probably read that. Because i read it maybe like two years ago or whenever it first came out and just understanding. He does a good job. Like simplifying it dr. Gotcha okay and then kind of bring it back a little bit for your patient experience. How does that system look so teased experience. I don't know where. I got this from but i really like this. It's kind of like have you heard of scheduling institute. Yes i have. They are amazing with patient experience. So i learned a lot in my. I associate position. 'cause they worked with them on. So this kinda resembles it. But i'll try to just kind of quickly go through it but i think it's called apex dental. They're the ones who put this together. So i told my team that we're gonna modify it. Make our own but patient time so first patient receives a call schedule patient based on the at times of the office available openings. So try to not let a whole bunch patients dictate your schedule even knew we want to try to keep some guidelines on like. When is it going to be best scheduled patient based on like what we wanna do. We'll eventually do block scheduling but right now we're just kind of scheduling wherever we want. Patient enters office team members are already to the patient so someone always needs to be in the front. That's why with morning huddle mike. I really don't love that signing up there like someone to always be the same with lunch stone calls. They have enough team members to style your lunches that we should not all be taken at the same time so much to always be up their patient. You greet them. He say hey. Welcome we make contact and then when they come in you're gonna give them office tour havens jones. Thanks so much for coming in and we're excited. You're gonna be working with dr dawson at eventually. Want to have a wall. 'cause i'll be working with foundation for girls to talk about our gifts so that they can point to like case it know. Our office has teamed up with For girls so for every new patient. That's going to help support a mother in need to. Thanks for being here because you're supporting that caused that kind of gives them. This is something bigger than just a new patient appointment. There's a community. These people are supporting the community as well new. A tour hate is russia over your comeback. Next time is pan. This is digital x ray. Low radiation like. Why does it benefit the patient. Why do they care to know like explain. All of the things to them in and We always have a new patient guest so after new patient tour. We always have a gift waiting for them. Which is a cost him on In that reciprocity think on chill dini in his book in. It's like if you give something to the patient. Or they feel like they have to give something back to you whether that's making an appointment or referring a friend but you welcome them eight. Thank you so much. Our office wanted to thank you. Here's a gift and eighteen leaves so it's not like awkward there staring at them as their opening gift Oh how do you like. You're feeling oh my gosh it catches mouthguard. It makes them feel special. And then we do the four minute roll. So it's f. o. r. e. so f is for family owes occupation are is recreation in e. Is everything else so we want to build a relationship with patients by connecting with them. That's part of our mission. Statement is relationship based industry. so let. let's four minute rule like let's talk for technically four minutes about things other than dentistry. Also tell me about your family or what do you do for work or what. You are doing anything this weekend. They may like mentioned hobby in this actually goes in the notes section in the patient chart like an open dentals like a little white box on the left side and we put f. o. r. e. and we type it in there so we have a little bit more personal information. People love talking about themselves in our family so so after that than we do the patient interview so see what their chief complaint is and go into more like the dental aspect. And then i was saying that it's important to pass the baton of trust in just me. you know. Each person should be edifying. The next person to me doctor. I'm like hey you're going to be speaking with kylie one of our treatment coordinators. She's amazing she's been doing this for so long. She's a go over everything all the financial aspect of it. you know. you're in great hands. And i'm trying to build them up in past time and just make sure that they can trust the next person that they have to speak to you on the team and then they go over the treatment plan and then i was just saying that going back to the exam when we're talking with the patient just getting a verbal yes in maho diagnosing with them. It's making sure that understand. You're like okay like let's go heading you schedule like do you agree that that's where in. Yes okay great. Let's try to find some days in times out work view in trying to get them scheduled but definitely the hand offs offices important Have a great patient experience and then just taking the time to get to know the patient and let them know that they heard. That's also where did you get. That four from was pretty cool so i we were doing it in upstate. New york when i was part of that group practice and then when i was down here the other office were got they also have scheduling institute and then i found this little like flow Omegas yes. I forgot about the four minute rule in it stands for you know amalie occupation recreation everything else settling affiliates pretty easy to remember how much i don't know if you've got this part of the core scatter now but when you ask about what do you do for work go so deep in their go into their job. You know what i mean like. There's so much you can do just by finding out where they work but this right here like is for sure thing like you make sure you ask it all yes this is going to be implemented. I mean this is a new patient experience. Everybody st right like everybody yet team yet. We even practice. It was like if i didn't have a system like this is the one thing that we had like we are going to. We have to kill the new patient experience. Especially as it start-up that's everything so just making sure so. We still have the practice a little bit more like with haley. She's still a little bit newer to the back. So lorries been mostly doing it. Just getting her comfortable with it and so it doesn't feel like robotic she can make our own but at the bottom line like this is what we need this information we need. How long your new patient. The whole thing like a whole new patient visit from the woman they walk into the About depends on get cleaning so in the very beginning we were scheduling two hours to do the exam. Xrays new patient the cleaning chiro plan presentation than leave now lease sure in it to like an hour. Forty minutes is we have the luxury of space so on we can always have that next room said even finishing up with the patient is polishing in cleaning by citizen ahead and start the next patient so probably more like hour and a half two hour forty now. That's pretty good. Yeah you're able to talk with them and exactly it's that that's pretty cool. Okay so then. This is all right now. The systems you guys have implemented in your practice anything you already discussed the systems as you plan to bring onto really quick. Has anything happened with the sign. Okay so they came to sign up. They did not do the opportunity signs. But i went outside because i was or i was working with patient when they came they installed. It went out there. And i'm like it's pink and my friend league. Yeah we thought it was gonna pink. We weren't sure if you've picked pink pink. Mike pink what what does that one thing is another literally. Have a pink dawson. Elliot will the pink part is dawson and then black is modern industry. So the guy. I'm like i know waited. Awhile guys just come out here but the thing. But it's pink a woody. It's pink guy osama picture. Alex pink demand. Today is usually. That's looks like what happened. Why what type of color paved road like a blush. Instead of a beige is trying to fix it so he said he's gonna try to you. Know see what we can do. I was able to pull up my colors again. Like because i have like a brand book that i was able to together like my color is my font and like you know the like the numbers for the colors. I guess it's like more like for print so it wasn't gonna be helpful for the sign. So lauren advil sense. She did my marketing. So she's getting get back to me with leon The pinton like color. That they need for the sinu- j- i guess it's almost like using different shaved. I'd like the a one's gonna look a little different on different shade guides. I guess that's kind of what happened. That's the worst. I na should never ending saga with this freaking. Sign picture of it though. We could see it. It's like okay so besides that what's been going on this week on usually my schedule. Everything else has been pretty good like monday was a pretty busy day like i said. Mondays are always busy so we had to patients that i did fillings. I in than i did three new patients. And now that. I have hailing a has x ray now on mondays we can do like a second call him so hopefully we'll get more calls but other than that. It's been pretty other nervous about the John as honestly gonna cuss me out. Or what but ominous gonna try. Pray about it. Hopefully she'll be nice an-and on she was really thankful and she wants to come back so hopefully she'll be nice each time. I think that's the only thing that was giving me diety this week on. I still have a little league and my roof. So that's been fun and it's yeah the roofers came out they try to fix it but it's we just had a a big rainstorm. Today's yosso still leaking so manetti excited again An industry with marketing. They said that things are looking pretty. Good luck on the website. She kind of went over the same things that my dad went over with. Google analytics but Target even though. I still want a little bit older patients by marketing lady. She made a good point. Like because i want to do more than biz lines. How do i get more in line or do. Some clear liners in. So i think i need to. Maybe explore with marketing towards like mid thirties. Or something like younger moms as well because they also schedule appointments issues like once you get them in and you build a report them sometimes. They'll actually bring their parents and that might be a way to also reach out to some parents but also you like more design stuff to you. Why don't you start talking a little bit. More about him design and things like that. Yeah i need to. I think i might have mentioned before. It says a good job of putting in there like do you like your smile or you're interested in when people talk about whitening or straightening then that's like a perfect opportunity to to bring it up that too. But i mean like just in general like on social media and notice you have a blog too so like on your larger. You know what i mean. So can you for for things like and has it could be like it can be super short. I mean like. I don't know i'll be honest like i'm not an introvert. Elmich meeting people and stuff. But i don't know why. I'm like a little bit shy when unlike. Oh you know trying to get out. There have been really sucking at like doing the ground marketing. Because unlike i like what if i'm awkward. It doesn't matter actually. Just try a little anxiety. That's been holding me back but it's not an excuse at all but i think there's something internally wrong with me that like why you know why nervous like you said it's something internally he's holding me back but it's not an excuse at all. Yeah yeah you know honestly like the best. I'm kinda the same way to be honest like the best confidence builder. That helped me was. I just told myself like i'm just gonna let me ask you something. Do you go to target or walmart or target. Mostly amatya. I'm guy so we go target right. Do you go to sub checkout cashier south. Okay started going to cashier. Even though there's a little bit of a longer line right or sometimes along or or if you want you can go to self-checkout still but you know how does that one person standing there in the self-checkout to like make sure everything's like you know functioning or question wing when they say like this one's open just walked by and then say hey how's it going. That's it that's it you do anything else. That's it that the conversation don't even think about a conversation just think about. I have to do something in an unknown situation. That's like it's kind of you know the situation your check. You're you're going to buy something on target and saying. Hey how's it going. An open ended question. You don't expect anything from it. You don't expect the conversation on nothing right. You're gone that's it. Okay start doing that with. That's your first thing started doing with as many people as you can. Don't think about like i gotta complete a strategy and then i have to admit no none of that stuff. This is just to build up your confidence so you can talk to strangers and then you're done checking outright like get the receipt and everything you turn back and say thank you so much. Have a nice state. That's it even if they don't tell you anything like okay. I kind of do that. But maybe not enough. Like i definitely need to stop going self-checkout then if you feel like you do that all the time right like another thing. We remember raw human right so we can say hi to each other. We don't have to be like. What does that person just say. We're you know what i mean like. I remember when i was growing up. We always wanted wave at each other. Say hi to each other living. La now people are like what the heck do i know you. And i'm like no you're array. That's how my husband and he was like. Why are they saying. How do you go now. Just say back so just starting to just to build. Yeah that's honestly we just tell that to people who are like super shy if you feel like you're already doing that and honestly have you ever heard of that mel robbins book the five second rule. Yes i've heard of that. I'm not read it before. Oh man that will change your life like it's scientifically proven but at the same time. Think about it thinking past five seconds. That's already talking yourself out. Have you ever looked at any of my youtube videos of me. Like ground marketing till like a gym or apartments or anything you at those forgot in in some of them. Do you ever see how. I'm sometimes i'm like kind of like scared. I don't feel like going in right now. Like i say that. Yeah what if. I start thinking about it too much than a member gonna go like myself al right. Yeah like you said. Just don't go beyond that. I think that's always plant worst case scenario. Almost all my guy. What if it goes terribly a hate me in my head on my. I'm not to what what would be doing. A business near get one insist to say like because i went to jim this we can. I'm like oh my god what the hell is supposed to say again. Then i'm like. Oh and then i forgot to say this night it go get the sign up sheet and i was like. I hope that this person has become really awkward. Like never talked lady again. Put down like the black list. I dunno domino's going to be on the blacklist. Don't let this lady. And she's so weird like you have a default and we all have a default if you think about it like we go in our minds. Forget everything right. Let's get the whole strategy and everything what would be your default like a lot of people's defaulters like While i'm new in town. And i just wanted to say hi. And that's like a lot of new bands default. Which i don't want to do and they'll kick in. Your default has to be like this. Why i never say like. Don't see a ton right like just say like a sentence. Just do anything for your members like any events unless india. Most of the talking. Yeah just like ask remember you. Don't wanna go in there like desperate or anything like that. You want in there. As if like i'm walking by might as well just walk in and ask about this question that i had to ungracious. Or she's like sorry no soliciting. I'm like you're like okay. You said okay. Waste say i was be new practice. I want to see if i can get some information. And maybe i could give you guys some my information. I think i went to you quickly. Into lemme maybe set up a table too. Far ashley truthful. I know i went. I went out to us shoe. What i'd say that no soliciting i feel you girl. I'm leaving by your hair. That is nowhere near anything. I've taught you hang. i just came out. I know what. I was doing practice in the mirror. Maybe no like next because you can call them rumor. You can call out. Yeah remember having zaidi on the phone to. I'm great with patients. Like i don't just when i have to go in there and a half to like like market mice. Oh without seeming. Like i'm trying to market myself. That's challenging for me but i am going to do it. Here's says you're listening. Ali and i'll try the next door grocery stores at this isn't lytle or little is calling oldie but l. killed janka came all she she shut me down real quick so i'll have to try. And maybe here's peter next or that's it but does that. Here's here's a grocery store. Count kroger i mean in the course you see me like actually going in. I mean talking to them. I don't just on kenya's player video. This is this is what i want to say but like he's gonna save better though. No you got it. You got this like all. You gotta do this next one. You're gonna call them and then just do the strategy. You know what i mean. Okay yadda you're not like out or anything or panicking opera blood pressure class. All right i won't let you down. Michael okay good other. That what else has been everything else has been the same or spend about the same. Yeah nothing nothing really just since been sick. So does china. China get by. She doesn't have But it's been hard to get into the group of things 'cause she's been out first level wise. How's your stress level. Do you feel like you're always talking about the practice. Now when you get home and your personal life and all this stuff or not my husband. He shut down. He has like he's just like last year eating dinner. He like blink face. i'm like what he's like. you just always talk about. I'm like i know. I need to have an alley. I'm like we're gonna have a podcast is like is a shot at me like no no. No i need like you know. I like you know this is like my life like this is what i want the whole time and now like in it like when i talk about it all the time but i understand like you don't get it. You don't want to hear me complain all the time like no one wants to be around that but obviously he's like he's very supportive but us joy tyrod something else so i have been like super stressed but i definitely talk about it a lot but i have like my friends that i think that i can get into the specifics. 'cause my husband. He's not a dentist like this is what he likes to talk about like. No one wants to talk. Like i don't want to talk about with him. I'm sorry i just wanna talk them health. I wanna talk about leverage finance. So i get it the a. It's gotta be ballots. He's an accountant right. So he's a cpa but he's on an investment banking for bank of america. So like don't awesome. Don't share those excel sheet profanations with me competitions. Yeah but anyways yeah so anyway but things have been fine. I haven't been super stressed but definitely to make sure that bore my husband with all my problems so nor is stores rolling in they have delta on they just do direct deposits alike. I begin an. I have a good bit adults patients. So it's been nice like seeing some money roll and going through my payroll aright cash some checks today and the bank and i'm like boom like this. It's nice to see it starting to come together. Awesome that's good to hear. That's good here so then with all that being said is out i will thank you everybody for listening and make sure that you guys follow me on instagram on my personal page at ashley underscored the ads or the instagram practice page which is at dawson mining industry. And of course sure you all the episodes in the beginning and just appreciate you guys being part of this journey. That is it. Thank you for tuning in this. Is the making of dawson modern dentistry.

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Christian Identity Pt. 2: Michael Wayne Ryan

Cults

48:27 min | 1 year ago

Christian Identity Pt. 2: Michael Wayne Ryan

"Due to the graphic nature of this cult's crimes listener discretion is advised. This episode includes adult language discussions of Torture Sexual Assault Racial Discrimination Antisemitism and violence against children and animals that some people may find offensive. We advise extreme caution for children under thirteen. Rick Sties looked out at the Nebraska farmland but twenty nine year old was sweating but not from June heat. It seemed like just yesterday. He'd been happily married to his beautiful wife. Blessed with three children Sandra had such kind way with them especially little luke but that was before the cancer and everything that came with it in just under a year his wife was gone now. It was nineteen eighty-four and he was on the cusp of a new life with a new wife. It seemed crazy but when Michael Ryan had ordered him to take a bride. He didn't argue. Brian had been right about building a paramilitary compound he'd been right about the money. They'd made robbing local farms. He been right about so much. Y'All way spoke through him and everyone who followed Ryan on the compound felt the same. Even the hogs seemed excited about the days nuptials. His new bride Lisa walked towards Rick as Ryan nodded in approval. Even with Y'all ways blessing. It was hard not to be nervous. Lisa was nervous to after all she was only fifteen years old. Hi I'm Greg Poulsen. And I'm Vanessa. Richardson and this is colts. A podcast original every Tuesday. We look at a cult practices their leader and their followers. You can find. All episodes of cults and other podcasts originals. For Free on spotify. Or wherever? You listen to podcasts. Just dream colts for free on spotify. Just open the APP and type cults in the search bar at podcast. We're grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network? If you enjoy today's episode the best way to help us is to leave a five star review. Wherever you're listening. It really does help today. We're continuing our deep dive into a white cult founded by Michael Wayne Ryan last week we followed Ryan as he went from a long haul. Trucker fueled by prejudice and hate to white supremacist guru with an eerie hold over poor. Nebraska farmers this week we'll cover Ryan's activities as he consolidated his power over an off shoot of the white. Supremacist Group POSSE comitatus. The organization rooted in an extremely racist theology called Christian identity was used by Ryan to justify the torture and violence. He inflicted on his followers just over a year after meeting. Posse COMA TATAS leader. James Wikstroem thirty six year old. Michael Ryan embraced. The man's message wholeheartedly. He began claiming to be the Archangel Michael sent by his version of God called. Y'All way he drew a small number of the group's members into his fear and eventually convinced them to believe in his holy connection to at First Ryan purported to be scared when he heard you always voice in the autumn of one thousand nine hundred eighty three. He decided God was reaching out to him. Personally saying he loved Ryan Telling Ryan he was the chosen leader of God's army according to Ryan Yoi proclaimed wikstroem would soon be killed and he would rise to replace the reverend. It's a matter of debate whether Ryan actually believed he was hearing the Voice of God. Some believe he was only claiming to hear voices as a tool to manipulate those around him. But it's also possible. He was experiencing auditory hallucinations. Vanessa's going to take over on the psychology. Here throughout the episode please note. Vanessa is not a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist. But she has done a lot of research for this show. Thanks Greg if the hallucinations were genuine. They were likely symptomatic of a larger mental illness in his article. How to recognize? Important warning signs of schizophrenia. Psychiatry specialist Dr Robert. James explained that auditory hallucinations are the most commonly reported hallucination. In fact according to a study by the Maryland Psychiatric Research Center. An estimated. Seventy to eighty percent of people with schizophrenia. Hear voices on top of that psychologist. Dr Julian leff asserts. That subjects may hear voices which they believe are coming from God or angels if the subject has a religious structure to their delusions. This will play an important part in legitimizing the messages coming from the voices whether Michael Ryan's horrific actions driven by genuine mental illness or simply a sadistic controlling mind would later be questioned but in the early winter of Nineteen eighty-four for those in Ryan's inner circle. His connection to Yao Wei was a certainty for the past few months. The small group of farmers had been hard at work doing his bidding at Ryan's direction. They were preparing. For the imminent Apocalyptic War Ryan believed he would lead the charge against Satan and the Jewish people in a battle he dubbed the battle of the wheatfields and what began as scattered burglaries of local farm houses to pillage supplies for Yao as army had grown into organized operation. The Band of struggling farmers outfitted in camouflage with machetes on their belts targeted mid-size farms all over Nebraska and Kansas. These self appointed soldiers of Galway. Were only a handful of true believers at first there was Jimmy however camp a gun enthusiast and doomsday proper David. Andreas an outgoing Bible. Thumper rix Thais of broken hog farmer who just lost his wife and James. Thim a shy young man who was often. The target of Ryan's teasing and Scorn Ryan never forgave them for accidentally discharging a semiautomatic rifle. One night before a raid nearly shooting his daughter Mandy all their movements were vetted by Galway via Michael Ryan. Because of this the men believed the crimes were beyond. Reproach Ryan Channel. Their spoils into more. Guns and supplies. Radio'S HARD HATS. Rifles bullets military rations rolls of barbed wire fencing and stacks of ammunition. They started at Rick. Stasi's farm in Rouleau Nebraska. An army camp waiting for its army but by the early summer of Nineteen eighty-four Michael Ryan's Doomsday squad had grown into something even more foreboding. A family business at I fifteen year old Dennis Ryan had been afraid of his father's talks with Ya as any headstrong teenager might be. Dennis was skeptical of Ryan's prophecies. But also like many boys this age dennis feared is tad looked up to him and often sought the man's approval in time. Dennis Ryan was conscripted into. Y'All ways army to. He started by making trips to gun shops with his father to prepare for the coming war soon. He was fuming with hatred for black and Jewish people even if he couldn't articulate y Ryan's initial followers similarly recruited their family members Jimmy Haferkamp's twenty nine year old sister joined the men for Saturday. Bible study then. She roped in her parents maxine. Norbert who brought along their younger children. Lisa and Danny all of them pledged loyalty to your way. Michael Ryan led the sessions and was eventually preaching the sort of barn burner sermons. His mentor James. Wicks from was known for and with the new recruits. His message was hitting home. Jimi Haferkamp sister Cheryl had always been a trusting sort. Perhaps even a bit naive. The intense picture of the Battle of the wheatfields Ryan painted frightened her but the concept of your way broadcasting in preparation strategy through Ryan made her feel safe behavioral neuroscientist. Dr Schmil lissack asserts that for some people. There's actually something appealing about the end of the world. For some apocalyptic believers finding a group of like minded fatalists is actually reassuring. There may be comfort and being able to attribute doom to some large cosmic order. Intentionally or not Michael Ryan continued to stoke that fire in those around him with every gathering he drilled his message in over and over again. We can't wait to get ready. Yaohua demands we act now for these new converts. It was the armed test that was most instrumental in bringing them around to his vision. Any fear they had any doubt they expressed was easily countered by Michael Ryan's divine parlor trick. A technique taught to Ryan by his mentor. Wikstroem a subject would extend their arm and Ryan would push down and ask a question according to Wikstroem if the arm gave Jawa had answered. No if it held steady Jawa had answered in the affirmative Ryan used the test to end any argument before it began. When he took an interest in Cheryl. He told his wife Ruth that Yao Wei insisted he take her as a second wife. Ruth was less than enthused to hear. This prophecy and Cheryl was already married but Ryan had a tendency to respond to routes complaints by beating her and she felt powerless to speak up. Ryan ultimately used. Cheryl's brother Jimmy an arm test to convince her to leave her husband. Ryan took his friends arm and asked. Y'All way whether he was meant to marry Cheryl Gibson. The arm held steady. Y'All way had spoken soon after Cheryl and her five young children moved in with Ryan and Ruth at their home. In Whiting Kansas maxine Norbert Haferkamp even gave their blessing. Brian Apparently Convinced Cheryl that her actual husband was possessed by Satan and she needed to stay away from him for good. He used his wife. Ruth's arm to prove it. Cheryl's husband Lester. Gibson was blindsided when his wife took their children and left home without warning. The angry husband wanted to take Ryan's home by storm. He was in good company but many members of Posse comitatus resented Ryan but people who knew Ryan Caution Gibson against taking him on alone one of them who remain nameless in public reporting cautioned. Whatever you do don't go near Michael Ryan alone. He's armed and he'll kill you his best advice. Gather a group of men and surround. Ryan's home armed and ready demand. Ryan send the Gibson children out then kill. Whoever's left? The suggestion made Lester Gibson sick as much as he wanted Cheryl back. He couldn't risk the lives of his children a few weeks later against his better judgment. Gibson went to Ryan's home by himself. The broken down house was deserted. His wife and children were gone. Coming up. Michael Ryan leads his followers to a compound in Rouleau Nebraska and horrific tragedy podcast listeners. We realized there are a lot of podcast shows to choose from each day and sometimes not enough time to sort through them. All in our new feed park cast daily we filtered through all of your favorite podcast series to highlight the most timely and relevant episode premiering. Each day every Monday through Friday. Discover a new and captivating episode curated specifically for you. That's one new episode from our slate of content handpicked with you in mind. Time is precious. And we've got you covered. Follow podcast daily free on spotify or every. Get Your podcasts. You can check out. Moorpark has shows and a full library episodes in spotify by searching for park cast in the spotify search bar or by going to spotify dot com slash. Podcast now back to the story. Thirty six year old. Michael Ryan was gearing up for war throughout nineteen eighty-four he formed a small militia an off shoot from the white supremacist. Group POSSE comitatus. He told them to prepare for the coming battle against Satan. The US government and the Jewish people in the late Fall Ryan moved his followers to rick spices hog farm two miles south of Rouleau Nebraska hoping to transform the farm into a paramilitary encampment Ryan and his allies started. Storing weapons and supplies there. It was roomy it was secluded and according to Ryan it was the perfect hideaway for twenty nine year old Cheryl Gibson and her kids. This was important. Since y'all way had recently told Ryan that Cheryl was to become his second wife he further specified that extreme security measures had to be taken at the Hog Farm. He boasted that there was a fifty thousand dollar price on his head because of his actions in the CIA. Naturally there was no such bounty. It could be that Ryan was suffering from persecutory delusions according to psychiatrists Steven Gans. A persecutory delusion occurs when someone believes others are out to harm them despite evidence to the contrary much like his auditory hallucinations. Persecutory delusions are commonly linked to schizophrenia. On the other hand it's possible. Ryan was merely lying to induce fear and his followers in the opinion of Dr Louis J West from the Department of Bio Behavioral Sciences at the Ucla School of Medicine. Deception lies at the core of mind manipulating and cul take groups and programs but whether Ryan was delusional deceptive or both his move to Rick Sizes farm was a dangerous step the formation of his compound coincided with Ryan seemingly distancing himself from posse comitatus. His motives now seemed less in line with the specific beliefs of the hate group. And more about indulging in his control likely Ryan felt he no longer needed the group or his mentor. Reverend Wikstrom to back him. He could get anything he wanted. With the assistance of the preacher's armed task it became ubiquitous on the Rouleau farm. Vital communication with Galway still rested with Michael Ryan but the others also used the technique to get answers. They even used it answer. Petty questions about cooking cleaning and laundry. The arm test told Cheryl Gibson to set up a schoolhouse for the children on the compound. The same arm test determined the lesson plan but though y'all way apparently had opinions about the minutia of daily life his paramount directive was that they keep preparing for war under Ryan's direction. The group built barracks with BUNK BEDS THREE LEVELS HIGH. They stored their camouflage and rifles in footlockers. Like the soldiers. They desperately wanted to be like good soldiers. They did with their general told them. Ruth Ryan slept in the same room as Ryan. Second Wife Cheryl Gibson Without Complaint Ryan married other members together. And you always name to. Rick Steves was married too young Lisa Haferkamp when she was all fifteen as a part of his supervisory role Ryan directed his followers to place a beat up. Orange recliner by a window in the barracks from there. He had a view of the whole farm. It would-be his command center for the coming war. He bolted to holsters on a desk nearby and placed a forty caliber and one and two thirty eight in the other every afternoon. Men gathered for target practice on their off. Time Ryan insisted. They endlessly rewatch the ten commandments or Red Dawn. A movie were teenage survivalists. Repel the Russian army. In a military invasion of the United States Ryan became more arrogant and tyrannical. Every day he doled out punishments of fasting and repentance at will arbitrarily assigning spiritual transgressions according to his mood when six year old. James Thin was late to a meeting. Ryan ordered he go two nights without sleep and clean dirty hog pen outback. It hadn't been tended to since Rick Stasi's business had gone under a year before two dozen dead baby pigs were inside as time went on Rick's Thais became more and more nervous in some ways Ryan had placed rick in the most precarious position of all. It was his farm. They were using as a home base and the more he expressed reservations the more. He incurred Ryan's and Jawa's wrath but even as Ryan harshly punished him. Rick couldn't break away. Perhaps on some level. Rick felt he deserved any punishment he got. He likely still carried some guilt over his wife's death his failing hog farm hadn't allowed him to pay for health insurance. Doctors didn't catch her cancer until it was far too late. Author in licensed psychologist Dr Guy Winch theorized. The use of self punishment to reduce feelings of guilt is quite common the more prone we are to feeling bad about ourselves and how we come across to others the more likely we might be to engage in self punishment. It was a terrible circle. Fueled by guilt over things. They'd already done Ryan's followers allowed him to torture them even further. Almost every day Ryan's appetite for punishment grew every morning. He engaged Rick in a series of armed tests to determine which of the eleven children on the farm had misbehaved. Then Ryan would personally handle their sentences himself. Eventually Ryan decided. The entire camp needed more discipline. He assigned ranks to everyone in his circle. The men were privates rick. Stikes was a high priest. Michael Ryan was king. The king soon decreed that the men and the women be separated. Y'All way chose their clothing in the words of author and former journalist Rod Kovin in his Book Evil Harvest. The unspoken rule was. Don't think don't question. Just believe Ryan warned. Anyone who balked at his orders that he had mafia contacts challenge him. An a mysterious hitman would put a bullet through your head. Execution was just a phone. Call away the kids. On the compound were the most frightened terrified of the man. They called mean Mike. He was the one who came to spank them. For no reason. He was the one who was so cruel to Rick Spices. Five year old son Luke. One night when Luke got into a tiff over a coloring book. With Ryan's daughter Mandy Ryan screamed he is of Satan. Brian then knocked the boy down. He called the child. A mongrel dog and Mass Cape Cod for any bad mood. Rix Dice could do nothing to stop it. Other children's started appearing with mysterious wealth's on them. The adults could only guess what they had done to anger your way as the summer of Nineteen eighty-four war on the abuse spilled over to everyone in Michael Ryan Circle maxine hammer camp. The mother of one of his wives and one of Ryan's original allies became the newest object of Ryan's attention convinced her husband. Norbert was hiding thousands of dollars at their former home. Ryan announced Yohe's decree. Maxine was to be his third wife. Maxine was hesitant. She already had a husband and everyone at the component noticed. The darkening of Ryan's mood. What would happen to Norbert? Ultimately the wedding moved forward despite her reservations maxine wasn't the only one unsettled by the affair. Rix Dice didn't think the marriage was right either but Ryan was there king in his mind like the biblical kings of old. He deserved as many wives as he desired. Being married to Ryan came with terrible consequences after the most recent wedding Ryan told maxine that y'all way wanted them to travel to Omaha together. She resisted but Ryan cryptically hinted that her real husband Norbert who was out on a supply run would be in danger of. She didn't do as galway commanded afraid for her husband's life. Maxine eventually found herself in an Omaha Motel Room according to Ryan the two would stay there until Yao way told them they could go in other words. They would stay there as long as he wanted to. For two days Ryan raged about what would happen to her. Her husband and the safety of her children. If she disobeyed Galway on the third day scared for her life and wreathed in tears she finally agreed to do whatever Ryan asked in this episode. We've discussed Ryan's possible schizophrenia. But this act and several others color Ryan psychological profile with a different word control Dr Katherine Baker wrote in her study motivational evidence and relevancy in rape perpetrators view rape as a form of expressing control anger or sadism. This sexual violence is often used to demonstrate their strength masculinity and volatility two other men controlling the group even further so this psychological pursuit of control contradicts the theory that Michael Ryan was unaccountable for his actions and was simply a victim of imagine voices and delusions. It could be after Ryan's rape of maxine Hammer. Camp her husband. Norbert returned to the farm with the supplies. Ryan had asked him to pick up a thousand bags of charcoal earmarked for making bombs. Ryan met Norbert with a loaded cagey ninety nine. Semi-automatic leveled straight at him. As if from some kind of deranged Western Ryan fired the weapon at maxine husband's feet while shooting he lobbed a threat. This gun can take care of anyone who gets in my way or Janas way. Norbert had suffered a serious heart attack a few years earlier. Ryen promised to give the man another one if he failed to get in line. Still afraid of the consequences. Maxine didn't tell her lawful husband that Ryan had raped her but it seemed. No amount of control could satisfy Ryan as summer. Turn to fall of Nineteen eighty-four Ryan alarmed rix ties by naming his fifteen year old wipe Lisa as his fourth spouse. Rick tried to stop the Union by revealing that. The girl was pregnant with his child in response. Ryan fired an uppercut into his belly. Yoi hadn't ordered them to consummate their marriage. It was clear the bond between Ryan and his high priest was crumbling. New Year's eve of nineteen eighty five was fast approaching and Ryan plan to make a powerful statement to keep his army in line as the countdown to midnight neared. Ryan announced his news. Those who questioned the will of y'all way would be punished and they would learn the error of their ways. The usually quiet theme was the only one to raise a question. He was becoming skeptical about the accuracy of the arm test. Ryan answered by proclaiming. That James Thim Rix dice and his five-year-old son Luke were to become Ryan's personal slaves themes doubts rick impregnating Lisa Hammer camp. And Luke's wining was all evidence of their wavering faith. They were banished from the main house on Rouleau farm and forced to live in the south trailer forbidden to interact with the family. Nobody else questioned the punishment. It merely reminded them to do as they were told meals. Were brought to the banished groups trailer and they were assigned menial chores but no matter how dutifully they tried to obey. They couldn't satisfy Ryan. He beat them often including the five year old on more than one occasion. Rick Seis contemplated calling the police but was afraid of what might happen. If Ryan found out before help arrived one morning that Winter Ryan entered the trailer and demanded five-year-old Luke's Thais take off all his clothes. He called the boy a Mongrel and shoved him out into the snow demanding. He roll around like a dog as the naked. Little boy rolled around in the snow. His father rick stood nearby paralyzed praying to. Yao Way to make it stop but Ryan had other plans. He then grabbed a whip and wrapped it around the child's neck as the child gasp for Air Ryan's first wife. Ruth watched in horror from the main residence. Finally Ryan dropped Luke and the gasping shivering child crawled inside the trailer. Rick stikes couldn't take anymore. He had to get his family out but his resolve was soon extinguished as reading his mind. That night Michael Ryan appeared in the doorway with a threat. If you leave this farm I will hunt you down and kill you and you will burn any terminal. Hell Rick Stayed. Put while Ryan continued to torture Luke over the next few weeks. Sometimes he'd come to the trailer and asked the boy to imagine what it would feel like if he shot him one afternoon. Ryan asked another resident of the farm to fetch him a chicken. Ryan shot the chicken in front of Luke splattering. Its innards over the boys legs. He was known to force Luke to stick a pistol in his mouth and play Russian Roulette until he wet his pants afterward. He'd always ask the same thing. You didn't think I'd shoot you. Did you. Then one day he did taking aim pretending he was joking. Michael Ryan Shot. Lucan the arm. The boy curled up on the floor. Blood gushing from the open wound. It had missed the bone passing through the fleshy part of the arm Ryan topic. It was his fault. Yaohua made him shoot LoC- because of his father's sins. Rick regained his nerve. He and his boy needed to escape inexplicably. Rick decided to flee the compound in the dead of night alone and return for his kids soon after clear of the farm. Rick rented a Motel Room in nearby fall city relieved to be safe at last the following day. He traveled to Omaha convinced the best way to help his children was too. I get a job for a week. He tried in vain to find employment frustrated and worried about his kids. He returned defeated to the Rouleau Farm. When he got back Ryan Insisted Rick. Strip naked to prove he hadn't been secretly wired by the Police Ryan. Then Radio Jimmy Haferkamp and David. Andreas he had a plan for how to punish for his escape. He instructed the men to bring him one of the goats from Penn nearby Ryan demanded. Rick prove how much he believed in your way Andrea s and have her camp grabbed the goat by the head as Ryan moved in close to Rick's face and commanded. He have sex with the goat as a broken rick accepted. His Fate Ryan laughed. The other men could only pray to y'all way that it would never happen to them coming up Mike O. Rien sick torture and abuse boils over into murder now. The conclusion of our story in the winter of nineteen eighty four thirty six year old. Michael Ryan was using unthinkable torture to keep his followers in line on the Rouleau farm which started as an outgrowth of the white supremacist group. Posse COMITATUS Ryan Small Group of followers. No longer had much of an ideology at all. Now they only existed to serve Ryan's sadistic whims after Rick's Thais escaped the Nebraska compound only to return a week later Ryan. Change them to the porch to prevent him from leaving again as the mercury thermometer. Dropped Rick called out of your way to save him but nothing could save his five year old son Luke with Rick's dice emotionally broken. Luke became an even bigger target from Michael Ryan Ryan through the child against walls made him eat off the floor like a dog and flicked cigarette ashes into his open mouth. Luke eventually became so withdrawn. He stopped crying. Ryan regularly brought Luke's ties to the bath. Tub and demanded he pledge allegiance to the outweigh nearly drowning him. In the process Ryan took photos of Rick witnessing his sons torture to incriminate him as the weeks wore on. Ryan grew bored of the day to day torture and made it a group activity instead. One day he corralled James Kim and Rick's Thais into a bedroom and forced them to sexually assault wreck not everyone needed to be forced to participate in the torture. Michael Ryan Son. Dennis began to emulate his father's behavior. Willingly Ryan frequently told his son remember killing his okay. As long as you're doing it for God Ryan also claimed he would be killed in the apocalyptic battle of the wheatfields and the dentist would rain afterward in his stead. Dentist took the prophecy to heart and began trying to rule like his father one day as Dennis shot at sparrows out a window with James. Thim the to God. In a petty disagreement it ended when. Dennis shot thim through the cheek as another follower patched them up. Dennis said this is how. Ya Alway punishes. Dennis then filled the wounds with Cayenne pepper and ominously warned James Them. If he didn't shape up Yoi might kill him by then. Almost everyone had physically and mentally buckled under Ryan's abuse them was feeble and haggard beaten and broken. He still believed y'all way was his only hope for salvation but no matter how hard he tried to please Ya away. Ryan only bore down harder feminine. Rick who faced the worst torture were caught in a vicious cycle? They were both disgusted by their own compliance and the abuse. But we're too afraid to act on each other's behalf finally late winter it all came crashing down one afternoon as Ryan viciously berated them in their trailer. Prison Young Luke's ties watched from the hallway hoping not to become the next target satisfied with themes verbal lashing. Ryan barrel down the hall violently Tossing Five Year Old Luke out of his way and into a metal bookcase. Luke's is rolled back in his head on impact. He started gasping and quickly lost consciousness. His father rushed in frantically trying to revive him. Ryan didn't even break stride and needed to be called back into the trailer Ryan took in the scene and shrugged shit. I wasn't even mad at him. That night rikstag was chained to the porch once more. He agonized in the cold. As unconscious boy was taken inside the main trailer the news came in hushed whispers from inside his son was gone. Ryan ordered Rick to wrap the dead boy in a blanket and put him in a tub in the back of a pickup truck Ryan then told him to bury his son in the field beyond the hog shed rick and thin doug the boys grave in the hard winter dirt while the other men watched from a distance. Ryan smiled and said look at that. It's the dead burying the dead rix ties. Stop Sleeping after that. He feared that. If you didn't find the courage to leave the farm he'd wind up dead like a son. He implored James Thin to start thinking about doing the same. But them was still intent on making things right with your way. Shortly after his son's death. Rick was tasked with going to a video store and renting a VCR and videotapes for the farm. Ever since his sons murder rick anthem had been chained to the front porch with no way to get out. Rick took the rare opportunity to escape a second time while Tim Hammer camp. Another resident of the farm was chatting with a video clerk. Rick a break for it. This time. He didn't come back. Ryan wasn't too worried about Rick's escape. He expected the man to come crawling back like he had the first time. In the meantime he focused all his rage on James Them. In April of nineteen eighty. Five Ruth Ryan cooked her husband a Turkey dinner as she took it out of the oven. Ryan remarked that it looked dry. He became convinced that James Thin had poisoned the Turkey. Torino's the Turkey smelled like ammonia and it had been stored out in the fridge by themes trailer Ryan burst into the trailer for a thorough search. He found Monja based cleanser under the sink and used it as evidence to condemn them. He made them eat the Turkey after a quick arm test. It was determined by your way that Kim had definitely tried to murder Ryan for his part them had no idea what was going on. Brian declared y'all way wanted them off the farm and devised a plan to humiliate him into leaving the next morning. He instructed David Andreas to escort them down to the Hawk shed and force him to have sex with one of the goats theme did as he was told. Then a group of men. Tim and Jimmy Hammer camp. David Andreas Michael Ryan and his son. Dennis Matt up in the shed to deliver your ways final punishment for an entire day. They brutally beat and raped them with a shovel. Only taking breaks for meals in between various methods of torture. Ryan made them sign over the deed to his car. Four y'all way. The following morning April twenty-sixth nineteen eighty five Ryan returned to the haunt shed. James could barely move or speak but still but torture continued with them. Hung at a Crucifix Position Ryan announced his latest message from your way they were to shoot off James. Kim's thinkers Ryan grabbed a piece of wood and rested dims hand on it the barrel of his Ruger. Ar Fifteen an inch from the man's fingers. He pulled the trigger them screams echo through the shed as the bullet obliterated the tip of his Finger Ryan cautioned them not to make any more noise or things would get worse. His tormentors then took turns with a gun. Tim Haferkamp shot off themes ring finger. Dennis Ryan destroyed his Middle Finger and David Andrea shot off the top of his thumb. Ryan accused them of working with outside intelligence agents and demanded he confess Ryan asked them if he could fuel the flames of hell then stomped on his left arm breaking it in half with a sickening crunch afterward. They broke for lunch over sandwiches. Michael Ryan told the men Yaohua wanted James them dead by six o'clock David. Andreas dug a grave in the backfield with a tractor. The men then returned to a barely conscious James Thin in the Hawk shed Ryan instructed his son to bring him a razor and a pair of rubber gloves his next words were y'all way wants me to show you how we skinned people in Vietnam pulling the skin from themes leg Ryan screamed at his victim. Did he finally that? Y'All way meant business with the last of his strength them faintly mild the word Yes ryan brought his boot done themes head then jumped on his ribcage to be sure your ways will was done. James them finally was dead. It may seem incomprehensible for a group of farmers to participate in such horrific torture but according to an article by professor of psychology. Dr Susan Fiske. Virtually anyone can be aggressive if sufficiently provoked stressed disgruntled or hot. When given an environment conducive to aggression and prisoners deemed disgusting and sub-human well established principles of conformity to peers and obedience to authority may account for the widespread. Nature of such abuse. Ryan's followers were constantly stressed and afraid for themselves and their families they were primed to view those who went against. You always will as subhuman in such an environment. They encouraged each other to take part in more and more violence Ryan had them in such an emotionally vulnerable state. They were willing to do anything for him. Out of fear even so Ryan may have realized. He pushed them to a precipice with them. Steph afterward Ryan temporarily dialed back. Some of his violence at instead sent his remaining followers on a manic robbery spree convinced. They were untouchable. They stole piles of supplies in Nebraska and Kansas hardware motorcycles boats even a xerox machine on June twenty-fifth nineteen eighty five Jimmy Hammer Camp and David. Andreas noticed swirling red police lights in their rear view mirror that night in Seneca Kansas. After all the robbery torture and murder the two men were caught for not properly displaying tail lights on a mobile crop. Sprayer they'd recently stolen it for Ya way. The men were placed under arrest. The stolen property let authorities to investigate the Rouleau farm inside the premises. The police discovered guns everywhere. Loaded and ready to fire piles of canned goods a military style barracks women and Children. Who'd been declared missing by their families and to recently transferred vehicle title from James Them. Brian Calm and collected had an answer for everything. He just been staying at the farm. He wasn't responsible for what had gone on their. Meanwhile in jail the spirit of young way left hammer camp and Andreas in a hurry. Ryan had sent them a message through an intermediary. It was their responsibility to suffer for their mistakes. Y'All way demanded it but Andreas had started paging through his Jailhouse Bible. One phrase kept leaping out at him false prophet on August. Twelve nineteen eighty-five Rick. Sties met state and federal agents in Hiawatha Kansas into spring. In summer away from Ryan. He'd gotten his strength back. After the initial search of the farm police assumed Luke had run away. Nobody had said otherwise. Rick was there to tell the truth relieved to be free of his secret. Rick said the words that turned to robbery investigation into a murder trial. He's dead. Rick had no trouble telling them where to find his son's body. He dug the grave himself around the same time. David Andreas and Jimmy. Haferkamp were starting to crack. They'd been in jail for over a month. Habur cap was afraid for his parents. Maxine Norbert back at the farm. He knew what Ryan was capable of better than anyone. Andreas couldn't get James. Thin modest head far away from Ryan's influence. Andreas couldn't believe the cruelty he played a part in. It seems so obvious. Now they'd been lied to and they didn't need an arm test to know it at the direction of Rick have her camp and Andreas authorities recovered. The bodies of James Thin and Luke's Thais on August Seventeenth Nineteen eighty-five. Shortly after Michael Ryan was charged with murder thirty-seven-year-old Ryan went on trial in the spring of Nineteen eighty-six the prosecution and defense utilize different strategies each presenting one of the contrasting angles on Ryan Psyche. We've discussed in this episode. Defense attorneys pleaded insanity. Five psychiatrists claimed Ryan was mentally. Ill Dr William. Logan testified. He was schizophrenic. A county jail cellmate. Claimed Ryan often pray out loud in one voice. Answer in another a symptom sometimes seen in schizophrenics the prosecution or otherwise their view Ryan was a liar adept at manipulation doctor. Emmett Kennedy testified that Sadistic Tendencies Drove Ryan to torture and kill. Not Up for debate was his ability to draw others in to his web. Police also arrested sixteen year old Dennis Ryan. He was tried as an adult and convicted of second degree. Murder Ryan's wife. Ruth wondered how she let her son become her husband's victim to Ryan Second Wife. Cheryl couldn't accept y'all ways. Angel was a murderer and underwent professional deprogramming. Ryan's Third Wife. Maxine cashed in over one hundred thousand dollars in insurance policies to keep Ryan from hurting her family Ryan's fourth wife. Lisa just wanted to finish highschool Jimmy Hammer Camp David. Andreas were convicted of second degree. Assault and possession of stolen property. They received twenty six years in prison but served half of that for good behavior. Rix dice got a six month. Jail sentence and five years probation. Michael Ryan was convicted and sentenced to death on April tenth nineteen eighty six. He died of natural causes at the to come State Correctional Institution on May twenty fourth. Two Thousand Fifteen. He went to his grave still claiming y'all way wanted his victims to die. Ryan left a horrifying and indelible mark on his followers though. He's now dead. The groups that initially inspired his theology live on Christian identity the philosophy that Posse comitatus embraced continues to influence. White supremacist groups today. Hopefully Tales like Ryan's can be used to prevent these dangerous ideologies from spreading any further. Thanks again for tuning into calls. We'll be back with another episode next Tuesday for more information on Michael Ryan amongst the many sources we used. We found Rod Colvin's Book Evil Harvest the true story of cult murder in the American heartland extremely helpful to our research. You can find all episodes of called said all other podcast originals for free on spotify Donna. Lita spotify already. Have all your favorite music. But now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy. All of your favorite podcasts originals. 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#206: 5 Musts Before Buying a Practice

Dentist Money

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#206: 5 Musts Before Buying a Practice

"The low Dennis money show listeners. Welcome back this is your host Ryan Isaac. Today I got a good friend our guest today. His name is Brian. Hanks aches and bright. Hank's is one of those industry goto experts when it comes to practice transitions see. Brian's a CPA and he worked for for a long time and the traditional financial planning accounting type business model but he saw too often that the buyer in practice transitions was highly unrepresented. That led Brian to write a book titled How to buy a dental practice which is awesome very descriptive and eventually to current career. As a fire transition advocate you want to know the five things. Brian says that the bake wants to see a purchase. Plus there's a six secret ingredient. Say That three times fast that Brian claims is is the secret to a good buying decision as reminder booker free consultation with us. We'd love to chat with you to check out the counter at Dennis Advisors Dot Com book. Call and we'll reach out and talk about your questions your decision making try to help you take back control of your financial future or you can just call us directly eight three three the DS plan. Thanks again for joining us. Really Hope you enjoy the show consultant advisor or conduct your own. Due Diligence and making financial decisions. General Principles discussed during this program do do not constitute personal advice. This program is for spy. Dentist advisors a registered investment advisor. This is Dennis money and welcome to the dentist money. Show where we help up. Dennis make smart financial decisions. I'm your host today Ryan. Isaac and I've got a good old time friend here Mr Brian. Hanks transitions sounds expert. Welcome to the show Brian. Thanks for joining us today. How're you doing? I'm awesome The classic longtime listener I call. I call on everyone like my old friend. You know just an old friend actually. We probably met. When did we meet you like years ago? Years and years in fact the first time I ever talked to recycle. I was standing in a Walmart in Burley Idaho and well. He's across the river he he was. He fought burly kids. He's Rupert Right. Yes let him. Yeah No I. I've been in. The office made time so here. Thanks for joining us for our listeners. Let's dive into Do the awkward intro or like read this professional bio about you you know you just gotTa sit there and listen to me Brag about you to the public But it's pretty cool so Brian He's an stop on a view. These and I want to expand before we go anywhere but you're buyers rep on dental transitions. Let's stop their broker and what a broker does and just flip it. And I just do the same thing for a buyer. So if you're buying dental practice I represent you act as the accountant through the transition that a hand you off to your team of professionals professionals after you own a practice well so sentence number two is you've got into this because you are a CPA and yep accountant they got the CFP If p credentials which I know K. and But Yeah I don't I don't do that anymore and I just do transitions. Yeah so you start yeah. It's where you begin right was For some large CPA and like a a dental accounting financial planning firms. Right and at the time I was working with all the younger dentists to advance planning and doing taxes and doing the whole thing thing and I got all the guys buy practices need asking the same questions over and over and And then I got tired of answering and then I so I write a blog posts. Pretty soon added a blog post. I thought you know she turned us into a book. And as such a positive response from the book that I had turned it into a business and career. And here you are okay. Okay but that was sentenced number. Three so you focus on Exclu- on transitions exclusively but you authored. A book called the book is called how to buy a dental practice in just for everyone listening right now We're going to give you a way to get this book for free by the end of the show. Yeah and so creative that you can tell how to buy a dental. Well what else he walk like. I'm looking for a book on how to buy dental practice. There's one appropriately titled how to Buy Dental Practice. So that's great and you also have of your own podcast practice purchased. I do yes You know I love I. In fact the very first dental podcast listen to Dennis Money And there are a number of them that I like and listen. Listen Super But this one decided put out there. Twenty episodes twenty minutes or less the start to finish the process of dental practice that adds no fluff. The goal was just to help educate people. So is that an ongoing You're adding to those. It was like you meant to do them. Just as a series like instructional easier media than like reading it somewhere. We're watching videos. Just here's a podcast adding to it consistently the s recording this today. Not all of our lives. They will be. They'll be in seasons in school and it just be out in their somebody can binge. It is like watch episode. Whatever it's like the new serial podcast? It's except it's about dental transitions way bigger audience for dental traditions than Elvis. Listen to if you let me give them a review. Mango listen to it. It's called practice purchase. So let me get back up to something I said this a few minutes ago. which is you are you represent just buyers in all of your transactions That that might may maybe. That sounds like intuitively. Like there's a reason why you would do that but how explain like why you do that. What's the benefit of that? What does that really mean to your clients? So I think about the journey of dentists right. I did a biology UNDERGRAD. I took the data got into dental school. Maybe didn't associate ship. And I think I WANNA own practice go outstart searching look for something maybe find something and immediately some big questions come to mind right. Am I really gonNA spend a million dollars on this thing. And and how do I know it's a good practice in the telling me it's worth a million. Is it really and how much money might WanNa make some big questions that come into play and traditionally traditionally the model has been to rely on the broker. Or maybe you haven't asked Martin Attorney that gives you some advice but really dental transitions History no one has really stepped up and said I'm just going to represent the buyer and I'm going to look after the interests of the buyer and Ryan the predate this. I think the thought process came back from me. From the fiduciary world being a financial advisor as as a fiduciary. You say I'M GONNA put my clients interests ahead of my own and time. After time. I was helping you know while I was doing accounting and financial planning. I've watched these buyers go through. Horrendous experiences is where maybe they're getting ripped off or maybe they're just getting told things that weren't necessarily true and I would watch him and thank you know why isn't somebody helping this person and the answer certain monies on the sell side. Yeah that's That's what I do. So that okay. So traditionally in the transition industry when someone's going out there to buy a practice and they're looking for someone to help them. Is it like is it pretty common. That a new buyer would go out and find a broker who's also representing the sellers like that's probably the most common model there are a lot of brokers out there that will do Do dual representation. And so yeah. It is probably the most common model today Mike. My argument is that dual representation is no representation. There two the zero some aspects to a deal that a broker You'll have to take a side on price being the most obvious but there are other issues. timing tax asset allocation of saying so Having said today Most buyers no need an accountant. I probably need a lawyer and And they're going to help me get through the transition. Okay so let's go to like My first question which is probably the most common thing if we ever go to a dental school well and give a presentation or some are younger. Listeners the the biggest question clearly is how it started all this like how do I go about buying a practice. This what things should I keep in mind as I'm like beginning that process. There's a lot of. Let's start with that question like new new Grad. They're looking to buy something. What are some of the first questions they like? What's the process? How do they begin this journey of like figuring out what to buy whereby it start-up versus acquisition countered or? Do they start okay. So so you're gonNA need five things to buy a practice with a secret six things. So how's that for a teaser. I like this. Everyone get their pens and paper or I don't know Hi phones or something out things in a six all right you can remember visit. They're not hard and frankly there's only two that are really difficult One is you gotTa Have Clean Credit History K.. Bankruptcy short sales that will that will be tough for you to buy a practice Second thing is you need credit score score of six eighty year. More as that's a go no go. Six eighty one gets the same rates and terms from banged as an eight hundred plus credits. Interesting okay Oh you mean a reduction history. That'll get you somewhere in the neighborhood of eighty percent of whatever a seller was producing so riot Ryan's dentist he's doing than one point five million dollars of Byzantine and I'm a brand new Grad. Who's never done it in this case You know I I'm not going to qualify for that practice As good as everything else is is unify. Have you know everything else on the list for interesting. Okay that makes not gonNa say I've got you gotta be as fast as Ryan. You gotta be as good as Ryan you've got your young guy but You GotTa get close. That's really that's something I've actually never thought about. Before is proving your capacity. He did take over like yeah. It's a great business. Here's the financials transparent. It's good it's it's profitable but whether or not you can keep that up. How often do you see that? I guess now that I'm thinking about it. Is that common that a dentist gets into that situation. But the bank won't lend because they don't think they can keep up that production. It's relatively rare the most common situation. The real problem is if the seller was doing specialty stuff that the buyer can't do more Indo like that. That's interesting man. I wonder I'd be curious to hear from anyone if they ran into that before. I don't think I've heard that but okay. So that's number three number four would be in about a year's worth of experience. Okay okay so you're governor listeners. Dental school money Dennis money listeners. That are positive. They're going to buy a practice right out had a dental school. I would tell you don't And I'll tell you that you probably won't get alone any way There are exceptions out. There I've helped a few of them So if you think you're the exception send me an email. We'll talk about but My argument is a years worth of time between the end of your education whether that's a residence fear dental school. Whatever that individuation looks like and the day you buy a practice will give you a hand? Speed clinical skills. It'll give you patients acceptance treatment planning all of the things it. Frankly just a knowledge of like thought I loved in Byzantine turns out. I really hate it and I don't want to buy a practice. That does a lot of embezzlement You know so how about a years worth of experience do you find The new grads struggle with that concept or is that becoming is that something. That's kind of like widely accepted like IAGO ALGA worked for a little bit or is it like something people fight against like. I just WANNA buy some day one. There's like ten percent of the schools. They'll they fight the other hurt ninety. It's the exact opposite. I'm like trying to convince them. It's a good idea to go by. I don't WanNa get a million dollars of debt. That's really interesting interesting like dude. You're twenty six. You know go work for a year. It's okay you can. You can make it okay. That was number four then is a year of experience. So here's the hardest is number five. Okay okay got to have some cash and the magic numbers fifty thousand dollars. Where does that come from? I tell people that all the time and I don't know why I've heard it from bankers. Yeah Yeah and that's where I got to at and I've asked him that question in the real rule is the lesser of ten percent of the purchase price or fifty K.. In cash cash okay. So let's be clear about what the caches for you. Don't buy a house got some cash to but you've got a hand. The cash to the bank is down. You can keep it you get. The bank. Wants to see that cash liquid available. I can't an IRA camping 401k. It's liquid available. Oh and But it sits there. It doesn't go anywhere. The bank wants it while they wanna see that. You're the type of dentists who had a job where you made some money and and you can actually save a little bit. But money didn't go out and buy the Tesla and they won man. Yes all right man and then they also WANNA so. If you had an emergency that you could yeah practice won't go under. That's really that's really interesting man. The fifty thousand cool thing about that is usually people are trying to do Multiple large life decisions at the same time practice. I house building and I mean would you agree that priority should be the practice above all else because because again you like you just said you don't have to use that cash and then you can actually use that cash for a house down payment later or the building or something later right right. What in I'll rephrase this? The nerdy financial planner. Talk that you and I understand what what is the best. Roi Right now in the best rely on your money is a younger educated. Practicing dentist is dental practice with forty percent. You know Six percent overhead forty minute provide so. Yeah maybe you forego uh-huh paying down those student loans for a period of time in rack up a little bit more interest but the return on investment on the dental practice is so so much bigger that had you plunk that fifty thousand dollars into your student loans and then went to go. Try to get a practice now. Now you gotta wait now. You're talking about the time and everything else do you find. That's the biggest temptation. That's the the biggest place people WANNA put the money student loans right and and their response in in again in nerdy. The planet is well. What my emotional our? Roi Is so huge to get feel. Like I've made so big and I get that and that's a respect to the I respect that answer clear about the. There's a financial cost to that emotional. Roa Yeah I think about that allow man in a strong strong dental practice. Whatever your career passing look like but if you're going to be an owner like getting into the right opportunity that right time and maximizing production and your income as fast as you can I I mean that drives every other decision and opportunity for forty years probably more? You can't do anything to put that in jeopardy gotta just take first place at the table. What's the bonus number? Six Bonus Bonus anybody listening can start this today okay. So you're a first year dental student. You're listening to podcasts. Su Starts Today. The sixth thing you need is relationships with other dentists ago all right so Most people when they try to go out and buy a practice they go to brokers i. I'M GONNA GO Browser Brooklyn's website sign up for some email alerts. Maybe I'll go to that. My local state dental board and browse some craigslist listing. Fine go do that goes. It's been twenty percent of your time when you're looking for practice doing that. But the best practices for sale. Don't even see the market. Either they don't use a broker right the bestsellers with profitable practices and You know the good aspects of I'll see they don't use a broker or the broker has a list of preferred preferred `buyers maybe DSO's that they shot the good practices to before they even publicly listed. Read so Network Bingo scene. Yeah it's not networking right. That's schmooze E it's business cards at contemplates. A peep a network of people that know your name know that you're a good guy or Gal and occur in the market for practices. Yeah I mean it reminds me of like real estate in really hot markets like little pockets of cities that are just so popularly. They don't even get listed. What'll happen is there's ten neighbors that want the practice for ten years and they're like hey soon as you move let us know and there's like a list of people it'll like it'll someone will say on a Friday? AM We're going to sell and they've got an offer Monday morning. You know asking exactly. Hey Dennis listeners. It's Matt mock with dentists. Dennis advisors I want to invite you to join Ryan Isaac and me for a monthly Webinar series where we tackle one of the elements topics each and every month. It's going to feel a lot like the dentist money the show but you'll have the ability to ask questions answer live polls and get it behind the scenes look and how we work with clients. You can sign up for free dentist advisors dot com slash. Webinar hope you see there. What about Let's talk like In that whole process feels like there's a ton of room for mistakes so where people tripping up like. What are the common mistakes that people are making here? The first and most common mistake is people are waiting too long to buy a practice that if you know you don't want to buy a practice records. Fine skip ahead thirty sixty seconds. Whatever but if you'd think you got into dentistry because you have the little bit that entrepreneurial spark and you want to own something future right what would you guess? Ryan would be the average number of years that people acted like they're out practicing dentistry. But they're working for someone else before they buy. I would guess three years yet. What I'm saying is five seven years? The average dentist out there is working that five to seven year for him in the most. Most common comment I hear is I wanted to feel like I had my student loans under control before this. Isn't that crazy man like there's so much that rides on. I'm getting the right opportunity at the right time and maximizing as fast as possible and that's the driving force is like and what's funny is five years out of school. No one got students under control right. You control six hundred and fifty grand of student loans like you just. Nothing happened but like mentally. You feel like you're doing something thing waiting. Exact crazy man. Wow I mean listen. Here's the true costs of waiting. Isn't the like the difference in the interest that you saved on the student loans right. It's the compounding interest at the end of your career for three extra years of ownership or five ownership right. I mean if you're taking home two hundred associated you could take four hundred home working to that donor. A two hundred thousand dollars dollars a year early on in your career to by the way. Pay Off your student loans faster on but then have that compound towards the end. It's just used anti-business in a business. The business equity in business growth and like Just more learning and more more entrepreneurial experience like it's just so valuable the jump into his fast as possible but I get it. I mean six hundred grand hanging over your head before you've done anything out for you can start at anything else has gotta feel so crushing and mm-hmm so my argument back is listen. If you can get out work for year in you can show that you could do seven eight twelve thousand a month in production and you can do. ooh And you can learn new things at that sense of confidence that things are gonna be fine. Protect yourself right with some insurance and everything else that have some confidence go and help some happy. Run the numbers. Show you how this is GonNa work out of your favorite. So I'm sitting here wondering in your experience of working with buyers. How often do you come across across people that you legitimately feel like yeah you? Maybe your personality shouldn't be a at least a sole owner of practice. That's a real thing in I. Don't there's no shame in in being like I just loved the work and I don't want to own this beast you know I don't WanNa put up with all the other mess. Yeah that's a good question. Yeah so I'd say twenty percent and the exact names of the I'm not going to please please advise we name every person that wasn't cut out to buy in practice right. I mean they're old. You can't think of yourself as a dentist who happens to own a business you got a business is owner. Who happens to be a dentist and that mentality isn't for everybody and if that's not you and you can be honest with yourself then yet Carter up with somebody maybe do is associate? There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. But you got to be smart about how you yeah. That's interesting man. Let's just say someone's in that boat They're kind of like you know three to five years is in socio. It really not sure if ownership is right for them what some options like I mean. I think everyone knows house. They own at least some part of practice. It's likely that they'll make more money. They'll build more wealth you know. What are some options for those people that might not want to do it by themselves is just finding a good partnership What's The you can dip your toe and in various ways right there are some? DSO's out there and another it's a dirty word for a lot of people but a handing us changing don't you. I totally agree exchange in I mean the average dentist. Maybe you don't WanNa be owner owner because there's so much to do well that just means that it could be outsource. It could be done better by somebody else. which in theory the business model so go be one of the You know the worker bees for Eso but with some equity kicker right there those up there. That's the way to go if you're in private practice or maybe you're in corporate and you can do is just take over some management liked duties for someone say. Hey listen we want to take over marketing for the next six months and and see if I can or hail let me handle the hiring and the firing and some of the scheduling and things like that take on the Some of the things that in owner would view as see how it goes. And maybe you'll find that it's not that big a deal. They'll student loans waiting too long any other big mistakes that you throw in their last one I would just say analysis says paralysis. That you've got a clinician who is like sticking needles in people's mouths and and getting sedation right and this is the type of personality who Ryan wants to see your spreadsheets right and wants to see mine. So if I said to you Ryan you gotTa go pick a gym. And it's the Jim you're GONNA be at for the next Thirty Years Inc a little longer and harder before you signed up big decision man. So it's a big decision but what I see happens. Sometimes enough cases that it's worth mentioning is that people get that analysis paralysis and then the opportunity passes the seller goes to somebody else. dake never pull the trigger and so I would just say that you gotta get a comfortable with some level of not knowing everything before you pull the trigger. I like how For me my analogy is picking Jim not picking a house to live in. You know he will all uproot my family and moved to another neighborhood no problem. I won't leave my gym. You're right here telling me right. So okay along those lines then How Okay I've got two questions the first one would be What who does a dentist does need to have in their life to make that decision so they're not just stuck in the analysis mode forever? I mean how do how do you finally pull the trigger is it. Just you gotTa have some outside feedback. Don't you I agree. Yeah a good dentist mentor. I think is a must read somebody that cool. Yeah so right back to relationships have some dentists than no you so having a good personal network I may be biased to say this but I think a good financial planner that can help us year around the corners. ahead financially pros and cons of being in this direction. This is this is what this extra debt is GonNa do. and Mrs why either bill or not a big deal and so those are the two people that come immediately to mind for me. CPA's attorneys amassed during this period fan. You know your typical. CPA gave for younger dentists or you know early career. Dentists Brady doing tax returns. The good dental sleep is that I know that are proactive. Thinking go ahead Generally work with the owners. So if you happen to be working with that. CPA that is proactive. In isn't just cranking out a tax return in October Ober because they filed for an extension because they bother to get ahead of the game then. Yeah I mean for sure. You're going to need a lawyer but the timing naming on the lawyer isn't going to beat till you've probably found a practice. Some turns making the decision to move forward. Yeah that's definitely a little some of those people or more like Make sure the details in the transaction lure CPA taxes. But you knew you d you need some consultation people in your life to like I like like the Dennis Mentor. I Man I think that probably isn't emphasized enough. Having another dentists mentor. Someone like you like I want that life however this is Um I always think about two and I wonder how it changes over generations. What what do you find is the driving decision between the the the I guess the location do people make the decision based on like this is the place I wanna live in the city or the town or or do people make that decision based on the opportunity like I kinda hate this place but like the opportunities killer so I'm going to do it anyway? Driza I I see some dentists go can route number two right the let the opportunity driver career far away. The first scenario is a lot the more common and I live in Scottsdale. So I'm GonNa find a practice in and around Scottsdale Mesa Phoenix somewhere and in that decision drives apps the the search process and everything else which by the way. You'll hear people say well that Market Stash rated. You can't find any practices. Such what are you okay. Let's talk about what do you hear that. What's your reaction then because explodes? It's not true. Yeah half the time. It's not even statistically correct. I mean listen here. Here's the kernel of truth. There is there are areas of the country. Where per capita there? There are a few more. Dentists varies a country. Okay that's the kernel of truth but again. If you're method defined dental practice is to passively watch some brokers websites okay. Yeah you're going to have a harder time finding a dental practice in Salt Lake City here in Portland Oregon or some of these like more saturated market. So I'm a but right if you're if you go out and you have a robust network of dentists other dentists or you know you know who else might be selling. Their practice is just not true. True there are enough dental practices for sale out there every day every day. I had to Dennis Ryan. You'll love this to death same day phone calls prospects for me both of them in East Denver Right Dennis Number one calls me UPROXX hot market. Yeah Yeah found a practice. It's okay it's collecting. Electing you know mid five hundred six hundred something like that and overheads a little high but man. I've been looking forever and I can't find anything so I need your help to help me. Analyze brackets okay. Yeah no problem. Happy to help half an hour no joke half an hour later nother totally separate. Dentists calls me. Hey Brian Wants your help. I've got awesome. AWESOME MILLION DOLLAR PRACTICES IN EAST DENVER. That I'm looking at and I it just popped up and I just found him and I'd like your help to help analyze them and I said Ed Where again conventis is? How'd you find? Well this one I knew this this and this one I knew the seller Zeller had a friend who was all relationships. The difference as you've listened to our podcast. Maybe there's a question about your finances you've you've wanted to ask. It's easy to get an answer. All you do is just pick up that phone Give us a call at eight three three. DDS Plan to set up a consultation. Or if you don't want to call us you can just go to the website. At Dennis Advisors Dot Com Click the book free consultation button and set it up. It's free do today. You know people talk about The money's always made the deal. You always hear that In real estate it's probably more of a cliche than like anything real he it gets tossed around. Where's the money like where's the Roi in buying a dental practice? How do you make sure you're getting a good deal and you're going to get something out of this thing? Yeah so Had the money is made in the deal. Is that the the exact wording growth. I think. That's what I what I talk about real estate right so that I can say like unequivocally unequivocally that is exactly wrong for dental practice steals it. It isn't made in the deal if you're the buyer The the money is made in the year end. Your ownership of an income stream is running the thing the right way so that the Roi comes in profit margin. Okay so you're burn as a as a new potential owner looking at new practices let's set aside clinical for a second. Let's set aside the city. You just look at the numbers. The number one thing to look at is the profit margin. The practice is that culturally speaks to how the office runs the type of patients that come in. How often whether whether or not you know the how high rent is? And how how people order supplies and everything else That's the biggest thing. Now I will say that Similar to like value stocks. Right so I think that if they longtime shout out to the A in in investing right value stocks have typically we have a premium in just like that in dental practices. Rural practices tend to have a little bit of a value premium relative to urban prats. You Are Living Downtown Conference San Francisco great but do it down. Seattle is great. I used to live there but Relative to like eastern Washington or Rural Idaho or somewhere like that right. You're going to see a little bit better return on your investment if you if you wanna live rural so you know Ryan you're talking about money and everything it needs to be part of the equation but the the Roi without question comes into play with the ownerships the income stream and what I would tell buyers I hate to because I'm the buyers. Rep Right is don't go into a deal thinking that you have to negotiate. It's not like like I feel like people home purchase or if it's not a hot market it's just expected that you're going to haggle a little bit right. It is that is not true and dental deals. I mean you can do it but licensing twenty thousand dollars amortized over ten years at four percent. I mean it's like nothing right and it's insulting to the seller and the sellers got six offers anyway so I mean if it makes sense to negotiate do it don't overpay. I'm not telling ready to overpay for your practice. But I'm what I'm saying is don't feel like you have to negotiate to get a lower price on saving fifty thousand dollars on the asking price. It's nice that it's not literally fifty thousand dollars. Yeah you gotTa Taylor Swift on that deal and calm down a little bit. Because do you see I was just wondering that. Do you see people like blow up deals. Because they're like Ma- they're just like out of EGO and principal. There's like a fifty thousand dollar like they just feel like emotionally they should pay fifty grand lasts and they're going to like walk away from a great thirty year career because of fifty grand or thirty grand. DC that yeah. I see that it's on the price and that it's like after they've signed an ally and they're starting to negotiate like the legal documents. The buyer has said Yes yes yes like seven of eight things and they're eh drying the line and then human human behavior negotiation is so funny. I think we've all been in that situation to where there's literally no no reason to do that. But on the eighth of conceded seven of eight points so far. I'm he you know. I'm taking feeding on number eight. I don't even care like we're going back to the table on this one because I just need something you gotta give me something. How often do you wanna see someone bring in like a consulting team like business consulting or even really specific like hygiene or front office consulting right off the bat even if it's a well established practice? Yeah I'm torn on this right when I sit and talk with consultants Zoltan that I refer to. It's like a no brainer. Like oh man like why wouldn't you get someone on day one to avoid the bad habits and then I'll talk to another consultant. Who Says Oh my? Gosh it's like you're going to be the new boss in your show up and try to change things like no. You need to get to know your staff. It's near people so my bias is to do the same. The same thing that fortune five hundred companies and that's to change nothing for at least ninety days. My sole exception to that rule is the pension. Oh Young K. There's some good tips for not keep the pension go but with that exception in mind I mean literally everything else you bought this practice because APPs potential it has patients that has income at the goodwill of the practices. What you purchase? Get your feet underneath you before you start changing things and there are some things you need to change so the one other tip that I give people all is to have what I call a Delta file. Delta's the what is it Greek. Yes the triangle. Yeah whatever it's fun promised promised have a file computer your phone somewhere. You can jot down all the things you want to change so you can scratch that each right right like Oh man like shirt everyday to work like we gotta change that like okay right down somewhere in ninety days from now sure like to write about his own idea. I only appear in public now with elements shirts on in a work related capacity and sometimes just personally I do I just. It's his easier on everybody. That's cool what about I always wonder like what are some thing like. Let's say you walk into this practice scrape practice but you know From day one overheads like ten percent more than it should be an. You know that front office is like. There's just GonNa be some butting heads. This change is hard. Someone's been in their ways for twenty years in a practice. Like how do you is that just like one of the like again to your point. Put it down the road give it a few months bring consultant bringing a team like how do you. How do you handle that? 'cause I'm sure that's probably the everything else is easy like. Oh lab costs overhead. But it's it's people it's messy. I would think long and hard about buying that practice all that might be a red flag within okay. Yup I might pull out of the deal. It's that big a deal Now if everything else lines up clinically this is the practice. You want geographically where you WANNA be. Yeah I mean you can change the staff and chances are by the way if you are that way staffel probably change themselves pretty soon but the that that's a big deal and right. It's the hygienic. is going to be standing in the grocery the storyline. Somebody's GONNA ask him about the doctor and if they're not saying nice things you just seems like that's that's pretty common to walk into a pro especially in older established salvage practice where overhead just got really high and people are set in their ways and can be tough own you. You mentioned a few things for sellers a little bit any tips for sellers. Even though you're on the buyer side to kind of maximize their end of things kiss a death of your seller is To just put off a decision sale right you put it off to put it off in your hi. Janice walks clan wants a two dollar an hour raise like we were just talking about Ryan so you say yes because you know you're still in the practice and a couple of years anyway and so your overhead starts to creep up at so a high overhead plus declining equal. You know big big trouble for financing ache like there's there's kind of three strike rule with banks thanks and declining collections is always a strike. High overhead is always drag and You know so you're going to limit the pool of potential buyers by taking your foot off the gas as a seller so that those are just keep that in mind is I get it right emotionally. Ready to walk away from the hand piece then figure out a way to make it work so that you're ready to sell in the things that okay and One last one here what Like how should people think about paying A person to get involved with this like how you know. How would you pay transitions expert to be involved on either side? Okay so my main advice vice is work with the people that you're gonNA pay directly okay. It's a lawyer. You want a good lawyer on the transition. You need to be the one that actually writes The lawyer With your account new transition by REP WHATEVER YOU WANNA call him Make sure you're the one so there are some Brokers out there who say no no Ryan I got you like I will represent you make sure this deal is fair. The question can bill. How do you get paid right? And if the answer you pay me and you write. Yes Sean someone else pays me. WHO's calling the shots? Then what what's normal. What's normal for a buyer? Go Out and pay by representation Casey. Your accountant is going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of six thousand eight thousand. That's a pretty good range for everything. Involved on that side of the transaction the lawyers years go or similar so six eight thousand ending on complexity in real estate entities and Blah Blah Blah so You're probably looking at some in the neighborhood of twelve to twenty thousand dollars give or take. But here's the key is most of that won't come due until after you close on practice and you've got to working capital loan from bank. You can wrap that into loan. So that's not literally cashier handing over to those people in different from like a seller like I always hear like a seller pays like ten percent. Talk over fifteen percent or something that's totally different sightings totally yet. That's more like real estate where the broker wants to you. Know if if they want higher commission than you'd go for a higher price right so that that they are still good model to still like a fairly reasonable model that that percentage and for a seller you know if you're seller someone's wants to charge ten percent It can like the answer is yes. If in the big if is if the broker for is good so then the game becomes how do you know if the brokers good and that's pretty tricky for your average seller. No so my advice would be to ask around in the transitions community. Because the good brokers bad brokers are very well known amongst you know the the Ryan Isaacs in the dental. CPA's in that bankers lawyers right so so ask around on who does dental transitions in your geography and then ask who the brokers are and the the the best names granted. It's awesome. Well thanks for spending so much time I First thing required. How can people find you if they wanted to like? I mean you brought this on yourself okay. You said the email me like three different times so you know how are people going to contact you if they want to ask you some questions and you you're located in Utah but you you do consulting being in and all this stuff all over the country right right. Yeah my of my I'm more nationwide so I'll work with buyers anywhere in fifty. I think get forty four schools a Delaware the best way to get me summit website. BRIAN HANGS DOT COM with Brian with an eye. Hanks thanks like Tom. Hanks and the email address has brian at Sossamon came in the beginning. We mentioned your book that you wrote. It is on Amazon how to buy a dental practice normally normal normal folk who do not listen to the dentist money. Show pay. What for that book? This is how you made millions of dollars by the way right. authorship works yeah yeah right right right and then I learned about Pass acting okay now. So it's like it's the publisher Price that gets on so Dennis money show listeners courtesy. Thank you very much Bryan Can Go get this book were they. Just how how can they do to get a free copy of how to buy a dental practice. How can they do that? BRIAN DOT com forward slash money. So pretty easy to remember money that Dennis is thought their mind. Just picking up the gets a couple of bucks for shipping. Thank all shipped out to you. You can save the costs and That's really awesome and we'll put that in the show notes to you at Brian Seriously. Thanks for taking time and this is like really super helpful. Information will post all the Things in the show notes but I appreciate a man will all seduce again. Another time thank you.

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Eat if he wished to call in tonight with statements with answers with corrections. Because i'm glad jimmy's own right now. 'cause jimmy may be able to help me with some stuff if you put chat or wants to call in Tonight is the machine breaking coats. That's what it's about and we're gonna be talking about. Miss body is in the house bother we're gonna be talking about heart attacks pre and post strokes pre and post seizures pre and post Meeting into anything you do you know. This is paranormal supernatural or go. Talk a lot about that. But in general This is Something they wanna do for a while a lot of you. The travelers are on live right. Now do know. Pardon me that Months ago three months ago. April may some more mormon four months ago I did have a heart attack and do that time. It made me think about a lot of stuff. So that's why we decided to do this. Show and talk about it. And talk to you guys car carols instead of carol hernandez call me carol We love you because you're traveling carol. Amen sister ottawa. Definitely do that. I just like to say the whole thing because another carols in there Again if you're listening on blog talk and you wish to call in And give your opinion. Give your insight your thoughts and call in at one. Three two three eight zero three eight seven seven. Dial the one or will think that you're just listening absolutely pushed that one button show tonight a lot of interesting things have happened throughout the week. We should we never had the call back from the mysterious color. we didn't have that A lot of people were keeping up on the weather that was going. That was interesting. We never heard back from him Or is it One thing you want to say real. Quick i wanna make sure we get this out there. we just got our notebook back up and running air newest notebook bird halley rope. 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It's the cabin It's the rancher right and seven acres of civil war Land battlefields and crossings. That's behind the cabin. So you history watson history even that whole area so when you come to the historic mechanicsville Even if you disarm do the cabin you can get out and do some historic traveling around mechanicsville and richmond And i would encourage that Because you know you're not gonna wanna step cabin day. Maybe will 'cause we both know there's activity no matter when you're there so would you agree. What other things would you say about the cabin looking ad that i'm missing her. You know. should we talked about. We're going gonna be there a lot this year. Right you know We've had some really great experiences so just like let me rumble my mouth. What else you got going on. What do you feel about the cabin or the ranger. I mean it's an experience i suggested. I mean if you haven't been out there you definitely want to. I haven't gotten anything negative from there at all. I mean people. Some people have. But i have not right you and it's just friendly atmosphere. It really is. You did bring up a good point right there. And i know we're we're talking about the cabinet lot right now But you know that's what we do to our four and our sponsors and also trying to make sure all my together here is we spend a lot of time there. They are great people. Answer great location. You know that's another thing. I mean it's right on it just stays location. It's right on three sixty you know Route three sixty Plenty of law enforcement in the area Plenty of places to go. Eat many things twenty or parking good parking. Dennis around has done a great job about that. And then this is ryan have given me the full blown go ahead with those promotions and sponsors. And that's what we're doing. Full steam ahead. Pardon me all. I had had some chicken wings tonight. Getting icy birthday i wing. But hopefully everybody's doing well so again if you wanna call in tonight. It's one three two three eight seven zero three eight seven seven and it doesn't matter if you're a traveler or if you're just tuning in for the first time we want to hear from you we wanna hear your side of different things that we're gonna talk about tonight now. Legally i have to say this. I do not nor this cat. Hold a medical degree This is all things that we've studied and come to understand From standard books and standard knowledge. Google google vague out there. They their commercials. Why not So we want to make sure that what we talk about tonight. That is it crosses the line. It's we don't have a degree in it but this is a show that we felt that really needs to be discussed so let's talk about seizures restart on seizures okay. Well you haven't met him yet. chris bella soon the paramedic Was one of my mentors in this field. And i learned a lot about seizures Especially when it comes to the paranormal field and the Spiritual field to What i found out and learning all that i could from chris and his team was what they call mini seizures. We're snaps as far as quickly as a misfire. Snaps is when you think. I'm going to be awarded tonight Yes he plans on talking alive. Yeah i guess so So when you're in the field these are i'm gonna point this towards the the paranormal crew and the supernatural and spiritual crew when you're in the field. Do you recall having those smells unusual. Smells your newfield. Yep or You may see a shadow a shadow. Some phones show play. You may hear noises. You may have a memory that pops up. Well envy spear in the medical side. When i've come to understand as a mini seizure is just that it's an over or misfiring of the snaps which leads us into a matrix for okay. So this is where majors kicks in you guys matrix yet that being air brain grasping at something to try to give an explanation or chains. What we're seeing into something that makes logical sense to us as we're in the field now when these mini seizures take place when these snaps is are either excessive or non firing They trigger those those thoughts of our past it as trigger And what happens is a lot of times you'll find that it is a smell and that's why if you're in a group and one person smells something and the rest doesn't that's where you it now. You have to be careful this too because what happens is one person this is that leading one person can say hey. Did you smell that you smell that leading subconsciously. You're thinking yeah. I do small thumping. It's how you present your evidence to the individuals are crew. That's around you. Don't lead them into what are smelling if you're getting a stint Yet it'd be something as simple as Closer you're smelling clover. You don't want to give it to the rest of the crowd because that's leading them and you're not gonna get The answer that you're looking for or that you're hoping okay so a lot of times when this kinda thing happens. Your brain is misleading. You're having a small mini seizure which is allowing your brain to matrix into what could be possible This is in smelling out. I said something about shadow play as well. There's also works in the shadow plague. That's the matrix thing off the side of your eye in the front of your on. This also happens in those mini seizures as a what they call matrix projection. You're seeing the silhouette of what your mind. What you see four. So you've got to take all of this stuff and to Into consideration when you're doing this kind of thing so what i'm back. Sorry about that. Sorry thinking getting an ear infection. That's not good. It's starting her. Oh y'all again near infection. Gotta get some hydrogen peroxide after down. Oh come on so now. Let me seizures. What is your perception of seizure. What takes place what's going on and how you feel it. Plays into If you have a seizure even what they call those mini seizures field. Well i mean. Are you pony seizures like not. Everybody turned a seizures. Exactly that's another good point. So i mean but if you're the people that you're with should know your own to seizures so they look out for You know to make sure that you're on the ground not falling tom or biting. You know some people will go back. Pretty violently and making hit their head pretty hard so rich also. And i'm glad you brought that up can be misled as demonic suzanne. Demonic possession exactly. It's a misconception. Some people would say there have a possession should go sisters there helping us. He's your folks. i'm i'm if it's not documented and your teamwork and that's another good thing medical background in a in a team right and what medications you're because the side effects on some medications are pretty severe. Look like they can make you hallucinate and stuff instead of. You're taking a new medication that you're not familiar with you. Gotta make sure that somebody would know wrong. Yeah yeah Paranoia paranoia schizophrenia Bp hypertension all that should be made to your teammates. So they're aware of any medical issues that you as the individual may have that way they can act quarterly to and win something. They happen and could allergy. Oh yeah allergies. That's another one that can go right back into the snow. Thing to cause allergies can Change your smell your smell pellett. And your taste pallet. Oh yeah you quiet uk. I'm so you're here thing online. Oh okay so seizures can be a big thing in the field I would encourage any all people to definitely do your research and your study and understand. Debunking is what we're supposed to be doing not assuming that it's absolute parrot normal so if you're having an experience you wanna be able to debunk yourself or another go. Hey it's it's either this or this you know and may not be what you think. If i'm not saying that's always the case. Don't get me wrong. Don't don't take my words and go. That what i'm saying but i want everybody to have a fol armory when they go into the field. I don't want you to go into the field with a half trunk of torches and poker's and maybe some potato guns. How did he turn the angry villagers. I don't it was just kind of funny often. Here's all i could see young frankenstein. You rang bond show again. That's a big thing. And i wanted to bring that up to you guys as our starter these. I felt like that was a good place to start Talk about seizures. 'cause that's one of the more common things that will find in the field More so many seizures wouldn't major seizures and paperwork and Having your medical needs met by your team and buy all those people around you there so quiet. Everybody's like their name saving those or anything. Are we still lost. I'm stunning them. They're like what the hell so we go from there and we want to go into. Bp okay because that's the next progressional step into something. I think it should be talked about but pressure blood pressure. Well i know but isn't that kind of backwards. Because blood high blood pressure lead the seizures could so can live pressure. I agree but i've wanted to start out with seizures because that is one of the major things. The people are misled or misunderstanding. About okay go go just in time and time. Does anybody have any questions in chat or make a comment Anything you want add to that to. What was the talk about buster. We're talking about seizures Hypertension blood pressure or heart. Attacks and strokes Pre and post In the field. That's the machine. That's the cobra trying to break tonight. And how we can help people and how proper paperwork should be created for investigator so just villian. I saw you jump in there and blog. Talk radio if you're listening on blog. Talk at the hyper. Feel free to call in tonight. It's one three two three eight seven zero eight seven seven so and cats right. We should have done blood pressure. I but i wanted to talk about the she is she. Is she users. Though she's i've gone through what we did last sunday the seizures good thing on hobble. Laugh but for myself okay. that's interesting plots themselves instead employ myself. I just moved over here. Hey show the next thing we want to talk about. Tonight is blood pressure. high blood pressure. Low blood pressure. We're gonna talk about sugar. Hypo and hyper seem Says he deals with high blood. Pressure and diabetes. It's okay hey are you have a candy bar good point. Hey buster. why don't you call in and let's talk about it One three two three eight seven zero three seven seven. It's the number call in which talk real quick about that. Because i run hyper glycaemic and of course now we know that i have hypertension and Yeah buster call in. Let's talk about that. Let's see if he does He used to have blood pressure issues. But that's been being rectified medication. I still do. I'm not gonna sit there and go. i'm all good. I'm not okay you guys. I have hypertension. We saying you're okay right. Thanks did i back on my head. Alleged feel bad so by the way. How's everybody likes this. Beautiful top had made by nathaniel. And rene sarah rene at crystal. Is that my gorgeous. You guys one of a kind. What does it. What's the name of the company or are still infinity. Is that what it is. Yeah yeah. I mean this rose is bag gate. Beautiful cut in the shape of a top pat. Just for howie is a one of a kind one of a kind and I think Sharing milkin for that. Because when i had the heart attack she thought about me. Yep absolutely Give me a few cook all in boston. Absolutely talk about it so while we're waiting for him to call in so let's talk about the the infield thing and let's talk about blood pressure. 'cause you run over a pressure. Yeah and i run high which now we know really to i in hypertension which it has come down and i am on medication for denver. Never means that it's going away because i i know it's it's a it's not a solution. It's just something helping. So i'm understanding of that. Now thank you for sharing daryl. You'd the managerial. Thank you so very very very very much sir. Give him a laws there now. He deserves that. I think there we go shopping me yet. Although i do love antonetti acts anyway. So blood pressure in the field There's different things that you experienced with a low blood pressure and with the high blood pressure. Hypertension was semigloss coke. And at hyper out. Goes glenn scenic. It's stop for a minute. Take a look and listen my brain's just farting around hyper and hypo wines too much. Sugar one's not enough. yes yes And it still affects what we feel so all. These things are major things that people never think about. They think i'm getting. We're feeling something's here. You're getting a weird feeling. It's insights you. It's nothing they're just saying. Well i mean i know. It's a little blood pressure. Stand up too fast or you know if you actually just like move your head up fact you can get dizzy and if you don't if you're not familiar aware of yourself enough to know that that's gonna happen. You might in on his location things. Oh no i'm experiencing something now. Think about the symptoms. That's another interesting point. We don't want to talk about it and not give the symptoms. Okay so one of the symptoms is is Feeling fainting right Another symptom is sweats. Cold sweats and hot sweats Temperature arise your body temperature rises or lowers right. Well i know. I'm always exactly. She's always cold. And i'm usually hot completely different things so i may pick up a spot. She'll never feel it and vice versa. So that kinda works to our benefit if we think about it What are some of the other symptoms. When you're dealing with this nauseousness. Have you ever been in the field or something you're doing. And you just feel nauseous for no apparent What's your background. What you medical background are you hyper or hypo 'cause seeming. Have you eaten all day. Have you really own investigation. They haven't eaten all day and then they wonder why they're not feeling so food and they feel dragging in all of your body has no energy. That's what's going to happen. You know what which flip that around to go and say this. Don't eat all the damn chandy. It does the same thing to you too much. Sugar gives you a sugar. Crash gives you a sugar high. What have you done. You've you've introduced all that sugar in your system. Like i gotta do it because i gotta stay weak. Coffee is another problem. Hey i'd rather have coffee. I agree with you. But i'm just trying to point out the different things is these are all different things that we need to look at so when we look at Blood pressure coffee. If you have high blood pressure is not a good thing. I it's supposed to be having like cups cups. i'm guilty. But you're not supposed to be having a lotta cups of coffee. You're not when you have a hypertension or high blood pressure. The other thing is is what are the foods are you eating. What are the foods that you eat you. Eight prior to the investigation. I got through. She probably not a good idea all susie. We're gonna get. We're going to get on to that food. I can't say it not allowed to do it. but different foods when you have high blood pressure. You probably don't wanna eat before investigation. There's anybody know what the number one food is. You're not supposed to be eating when you go on investigation or even when you have hypertension baynes means more more. No no oh no yeah. I probably wouldn't do that but no Let us know if you wanna call lane or chat. What do you think the number one mood. You're not supposed to eat when you have hypertension high blood pressure. And he loves anchovies and sushi. Are you crazy anchovies. Probably not the number one but it's definitely unknown. Oh jarrell so the number. One food at the top of the list of hypertension. You are not supposed to eat is asian food any format asian food. It is absolute. No i'm not even she won't even let me have small ones. I can't have any. Is bill now because why him level high sodium levels which is really ironic because their food is usually a low sodium food. Who's fan baseball. High starch but americanized. It's high very high sodium base. So you do not want to eat mexican or asian food when you go to or a hispanic latino or go there When you're going on investigation journals. I believe it tastes. Good is bad for you. Know taking that same serey. Yeah pretty much. Yeah i mean. The doctor said anything's fine in in mouse. But i am also on a sodium base level. The fifty to two thousand fifteen hundred. Oh i can only have a certain amount of day not supposed to go over that. And sometimes they do. Sometimes i don't think he's saying he's gotta stadiums cap. There is where you're supposed to have no more than two thousand milligrams of sodium a day. Especially if you've had a heart attack or your You have hypertension as yeah absolutely and luckily i'm not a person. No you're not. She doesn't she doesn't need a lot of sodium at all. It's chilly smaller plates. If she found out that it's enough she tastes it. So that's a good thing So in hypertension to other things that come into play. Swelling of the feet in hands of course as ward circulation to dehydrates could be dehydration area. That's sure what's that muscle cramping at. I mean you're gonna get it pains me that you have no idea where it's coming from us. You're gonna think you're being assaulted. But it's not if your body assaulting you for not providing water right so it's drying out of the body what it feels. It needs We were just talking looking watching a a show. The other night that the muscle spasm guy thought he had a worm in his cabinet was actually his muscles. Were just you know. Spastic at that comes from Spastic muscle in the on your back. As well people heard about that or experienced it that's a lot of. That's be hydration. But that i mean that's easily rectified. Just make sure that no matter where you're going make sure your plenty of water. Make sure you're drinking water coffee. And sodas are all good to keep the awake but water gonna keep your body healthy. You're absolutely absolutely you gotta have that water Especially investigation A lot of people think that it's great to have coffee and showed it's like you were saying but it's probably very not healthy for you to have that at night. Wow joseph blood pressure was to thirty one. Twenty seven the other day jerrold. You need to go see a doctor. Now i'm gonna tell you why to fifteen is their starting point for stroke. I found out. 'cause like i said i got hit by that. Double barrel shotgun stroke heart attack. I was at a two thirteen. If you're at two thirty other that is really not good. I'm going to urge to go. See your doctor. You gotta see a doctor. That is scary. That's way i in fact Actually have a friend of mine that is in a are. that's a she was on right now. Jimmy turner james turner. That's on a very dear friend. Very intelligent in the medical field He could probably jump in and tell you know thirty years. I know you're shouldn't be anything higher than what one thirty. It's should be the highest. I think they were saying because they had to give me below the the one twenty. And i know i remember so. Yeah i think it's i think the cap you're supposed to be below one thirty So definitely jimmy. Go see a doctor man. Trust me you're gonna end up having stroke man. And i don't wanna see any of our travelers running into that kind of stuff To hypertension we have hyper and hypo circulation. The bp plays into we just talked about the swelling of the hands on the swelling. the justice willing to face. What does something else that you don't think about. Here's another thing that could be very dangerous. That goes with the swelling of your neck. Okay some people especially if they have diabetes This can be a very big issue your Air canals could close up. One twenty seven and that's one twenty seven for someone who has hypertension or a high. Bp is pretty decent. If you normally ryan you know to thirties is seriously dangerous. You can do it. I'm just being honest with you. That's what this show is about. That's why we open your minimum machine. We want to be honest. And give you the true and and break because of what people think about misconceptions Of how things are especially with our cat being and having the experience with me and we haven't that experience you kinda change your point of view when it happens to you and you get a greater appreciation for the understanding of what people go through in the medical field and now we go through in the paranormal field. I mean that's another perfect sample so this would leave with a heart attack cetera but hypertension can come out of nowhere. It doesn't have to ever reason If you're now taking meds properly things happen if you do not give yourself time to rest and relax and get on your feet after a major event. You're gonna cause more trouble perfectly eating fried chicken and they get. I was not eating fried chicken and bacon at the time after that. I've only had once four months. Come on Well now twice now. I-it roofs but before we went to fort mifflin. We went to soon after. I got out of the hospital and we had all kinds of issues. I had so many issues. See need to really focus on self really. They checked his blood pressure at work. Okay they saw how high was and let him go home and let him drive himself home. Forty miles away. Oh that's dangerous to that was a big no no. Luckily the rest was down the street from me. Yes new have your guy because he had no other transit. that's scary. that's scary. I wouldn't mind straight to the hospital or somebody should've drove you and that's just being honest with you. Brother is just really should have Let's get let's get through the blood pressure and then we'll talk about the other things. Come out because blood pressure is still a major thing because it also just like the sugar levels low pressure will make you feel anger. It will make you feel frustration and will add to anything that you might encounter during the day so your systems already pumped up and high and you want to go into a location. That's probably not a smart thing. I've done this a couple of times and did not realize that i was having hypertension or attack or having high blood pressure and you're bringing in a bunch of negative energy that you need to be in a place that might potentially be. She's saying negative energy it's drama. You're bringing drama in there and and you'd think you're okay and your mind you're okay guess what you're not okay h. Nado good day in people can tell you all they want. You know you're something wrong with you or was i'm you're not paying attention to it. You know listen to it because in your head you're perfectly fine. It's not the case. It's not the case especially for those people who enjoy doctor. But here's the thing. What happens is people that i do believe in are really into believing this changing behavior in automatically things that you were being. You're being Attacked or have an attachment that is yeah changing your point of view and your perspective when in reality is nothing more than your own body doing right your body's williams visible hi sherry mcsherry. Lorraine i see missile range against jerry. So justly take these things into consideration Because these are hazardous things okay that the negative thing that she was talking about it is negative. But it's also what you're allowing to take place and like cats even when you're dehydrated. You can have back cramped and then you're gonna clean or someone's going to say you have an attached When you don't you just ain't doing the right thing either not exercising. He'd injured enough water. You have too much sugar. Not enough sugar Or your sodium levels either to hire to love so that's an unhealthy. See she's aren't we and that's why we're breaking the cup so okay let's flip over to you. What kind of things happened you. When you're broke pressure really hits love. I still tired like a drained But i guess it also make you feel like you have something attached to you that a siphoning off your energy but in reality. That's just your blood pressure. Going really low. Yeah you know something else. I it just popped in the head about the whole low pressure Is you feel tired but a lot of people would love broke pressure gas. What they have a immune immune deficiency and. They're always running low on iron as when you're big things and iron deficiency so think about this you guys you have blood pressure. You may have an iron issue which means that's going to affect your sight and your hearing a checkup last week. My bell was nine hundred. My blood sugar level was three hundred. My blood pressure was ninety. Four over one. Wow what a healthy cholesterol i would. I won't be. I won't lie. I don't wanna healthy cholesterol or blood sugar level as supposed to be blood sugar. I'm not sure of that either. They didn't really saying to me about it. they just focused on the. Bp cholesterol remember. Even the attrition was like really. Didn't say anything about my question. All all about my suty stolid the eight. You'd be worried. Hey i eat well okay. I'm glad rob's not on here right now or jim has just You know yeah. A lot of miracle whip miracle with a sodium based spread and its hind sodium. I've got back on that to jesus Processed meats like bologna and hot dogs on major things Something else because. I know we're getting ready to go on to heart attack and getting ready to take a break in a minute but this is part of blood pressure. Listen to me you guys. this is something. I'm this is another suggestion when you get your meat from the store squeeze it out. Push it out. 'cause what you're thinking is blood. That's enough packing. That's not blood that's preservative and it's filled with sodium filled with sodium. So when you cook your stake your hamburgers even poor and you you see all juicy juicy that's preservative that's not juicy and that's filled worth heart attack stroke blood pressure i ignorance may need off impact. Dry fish yep especially. Now have she. She really put forth the effort to make sure that it's drain and unfortunately some of my cooking you know that's part of the taste but you gotta change. Sometimes you just gotta change presidency chocolate. Yeah a lot of cans lake over your mackenzie carry. suri are also just. They're still loaded with sodium. You think meeting healthy chunky. You know it's chunkys food so you don't remember that who who did that test. I took a chunky chicken. Noodle can and i compressed it now and got rid of the the bra and you know how much stuff is really can. Okay kansas about that with a big. It was only that much of ingredients. Happy did the fluid out vegetables resume heavy. Felicity it's filled with sodium and sodium bomb. Just think about that you guys. It's absolutely true frozen foods. Yeah absolutely so. Think about the preservatives in your food Think about what you're eating before you going investigation another one. If you have. I brazier each donate. I will eat pizza. He's good with the pizza. Probably should not be eating pizza investigation. But that's something else you need to think about. What is best for you when you do an investigation when you have someone like me Gerald who has a high blood pressure. Count when you're now technically in the hypertension state you need to take veggies Maters are great Carrots celery celery. Nature's water right there Those different things not change ships. Nine hawaiian see. But make sure you get too low sodium V8 all she got hooked on. Vhs says the a flash flashes drain and container villa backup with your fluid. Freeze it take you with you. Know into no anchovies. No and over for you know now. Just can't forget what say. Oh deluxe super supreme pieces with into. Oh good more. No what else we get out there. definitely do that because anything that is done by big chain grocery store meat departments will take dated meet And add fresh ground meat to the old ground me and yeah yeah and then repackage it. Yeah that's dangerous both for A viruses and disease to It raises the sodium content. I unfortunately i department store do some similar gross disgusting stuff. Yeah that makes you very much weary of where you buy your food I'm not gonna talk about the incident of a major food brand label here in richmond. But let's just say they had some pretty bad Things that they were doing to me and to the customers dolly that that watcher food look at your foods. Big-time new is looking back. I believe really. Oh yeah absolutely. So that's why we wanted to bring up the blood pressure and the sugar levels And the seizure on the first out of the major stuff that lead up to the bigger stop which we're going to get into the second hour. hopefully busters able to call any. You could talk about his blood pressure and we chat about that a little bit. Anybody wants to call in tonight. Feel free the number one three two three eight seven zero three eight seven seven studio lines are open me you down the one. what else. 'cause if not we'll think you're Listening and we wanna bother you absolutely. You're again listening to the orion effect right here on the rift radio podcast network so it's interesting how health please in the paranormal and supernatural field. And you know spiritual field and everything. We just talked about spiritual wise in your field. Think about those reiki masters. Think about your clients inc about all of which takes inner system. And when you're doing reiki or you're doing spiritual work what about you. You're always worried about the client. You talk about you want to help the client would if you're not in the best one hundred percent health wise. What are you doing for your client. We you do it yourself so you need to think about this when you're doing Your work as well. This so what we just talked about in the last hour this could. This should be applied. You guys to Read at stone goddess. Absolutely sweet lady. she is seventy seven years old and sweetest lady. Her father worked with edgar. Casey group and she's still runs that shop and she's an amazing woman so talking about spiritual she's there for people but i'm wondering if this is going back. How are you gonna put this back to where he started with what. I was talking about her age and health. 'cause she's been through Several things in the spiritual field but she's still working at seventy seven. She owns her shop. It's even though you know she knows what she's eating. She knows what she's in taking and there are a lot of spiritual people than what they're eating and no proper eating methods and ways of doing it right but there's other people that may not and if there may be thinking they're having an effect for the spiritual side when actually it's all in sheri's right again because You know it's not only the health issues. It's the medications you're taking said health issues that might be the actual problem. We're going to get into that. It's second l. Exactly right exactly. Oh and what you should have been done a long time ago that you were just too hard headed to accept. Oh my talking about myself. Oh god now you see that look did you see that. Oh so We wanted to bring that to you. Guys attention Thank you for being a part of the first hour Because this is important to me. Because i've experienced it now she's experienced with me and now we have a better understanding when people say oh i just i had a heart attack or stroke and i'm like oh i totally sympathize now on i get it because sometimes you do stupid things and we lead your own bad health. Where own worst enemy i swear to you really are proud of. You owe her me. Which one yeah. You're right john with me as much as you could. We won't even get into that story. That radler up again About the hospital. You know what we're gonna do now. Travelers those have been following the show. We're gonna take about a five to six minute break. So i'll use restroom. Get something to drink smoke cigarettes or whatever else you gotta do and what and when we come back we're going to talk about heart attacks strokes and if your other things hopefully buster will be able to call in and speak with some second hour. That'd be great so travelers and those like we'll be right back just after this. 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September twenty four and twenty twenty. Twenty one the michigan on All right we're back on air right here. On the rift radio podcast network. This is the orion effect and this is the 'nigma machine The first hour we talked about blood pressure. We talked about seizures We talked of a little bit about hyper and hypo like yes. Yes and this hour. We're gonna talk about heart attacks and strokes and other symptoms. 'cause there's other things that are out there that play if that So one of the things is we wanna work really hard at its heart attacks. That seems to be the leading thing these days right now Hey i'm guilty and we wanna do is look at the pre and the post effects a someone who is had or is about to have a heart attack and how you can come across to people and you have no knowledge and you. Everything's fine and symptoms because we found out symptoms are not what you think they are folks. They're not just the the smaller group of what they say. Leading you to a heart attack you know so One of the things is leading to a heart attack. A course your arteries if it's a heart attack and not a cardiac arrest two different things. I all explain that heart attack. In cardiac arrest are two different issues with the heart. Cardiac arrest is what happens on the outside of the heart. Impact compressions stuff to the heart. The heart attack itself is internal of the heart the chambers the valves so A lotta times. Your trauma is where that issue comes in the external trauma to internal trump. What you eat your feelings. Play a huge part in your health. Huge huge part So perfect example. Let's look et symptoms of a heart attack. You know they used to be just what you're all y'all pain in the left arm numbness in your arm numbness Pain in your chest. The whole like an elephant stepping on u And sometimes it's the brass shortness of breath can not ingestion feels like having her gestion. He turns red. Well that's a given your face your neck and your ears right The other thing be looking for is if you're feeling Kind of like Dizzy dizziness facts Anger issues. that's another thing so these are not all symptoms. They're just sweating excessive sweating i. I don't recall the excessive sweating. Could've been it could've been. I don't recall it Can be it can actually can be a symptom Now what they don't tell you about other symptoms redness and is Another symptom is your right arm. Elbow and shoulder. Okay a burning sensation in your chest in your chest now like energy. This has a completely different field Also must feel like this was. This was my simple as felt like somebody had put Hot coals in my chest just shoved in there so that's where that was having a hard time breathing when that was going on I'm able to do the things that you used to be able to do. Picking up objects if you feel too weak. That's a symptom if you're naturally going. Hey can you can lift things and move things and like brush Moving roxy stuff and then suddenly you just you just don't have the strength anymore and you tell you what that's that's a symptom of a heart attack And don't take it lightly. Don't take this lightly at all Because there's called minor and majors i and their vows Left and right on the lowest end in your veins and you legs Your arteries and your arms and your neck as so. That's a double barrel there too. 'cause that's what stroke and heart attacks so okay. Let's talk about that for a second. I don't know busters gonna make it on But what about leading up to the heart attack. What kind of things do you remember to your call about my behavior at about how things are going prior to the heart attack that you recall i mean beyond i mean this well i mean you kept saying that you weren't feeling right. Yeah no that's a good point. I'm gonna with that and say that there is a feeling of foreboding dot is honest to god truth there. Is that when people say you have this feeling of foreboding. That's true symptom. I had that on the first one. I had five before four before the big one. So yeah the first one. I felt that. I felt like something bad was really about that but i felt weird. I do not feel like i was in this dimension sherry says that her cousin lives in the process of a heart attack and drove himself to the hospital very sweaty and dry mouth and kept coughing. Hospital told him that actually helps keep him alive to get to the hospital. He was ninety seven percent. Closed in widowmaker. Yeah i was two points. Above the steroids. He'd been taking Did a number on his body their writers drugs. That's where we're going gonna talk about Gonna get that steroids Other drugs that are out there that had to this issue but something she just said able to drive himself. I drove myself after my boss had his. He's lease go the rest of the squad. I was like i just i just felt like had an interception but then he knows i couldn't breathe. I wasn't reading them properly now. Already had a heart trauma years ago so you know i just finally said okay you to soothe everybody. I'm you to draw myself to. The rescue squad drove myself. Recipes are thought is having a stroke. I was at two thirteen. Two points from two fifteen to me to Hanover immersive systems. Come to find out the stroke made it happen if it kept going because i was ninety. Nine point nine and my widowmaker. Yeah so rene. cody said. He had to drive herself to the hospital too and when she had her she had pain that felt like someone was squeezing her heart with bilateral shoulder. Pain and tingling fingers. Okay now when you say you were having pain in the arms if you will which are both arms was one arm. Was it into shoulder. Rene let's see it's Sherifi that was it. Was it in your left shoulder right shoulder elbow. Where where was it. 'cause i know for me. The weird thing was is. I was right shoulder and my elbow. My right elbow sounds like it was his left shoulder with tinguely lingers. Okay tingling fingers. I don't recall the team. Really do you never see anything about it. I my hands always have have swollen That comes from the blood pressure issue. Evidently that's ever since. I was a little kid too. And that's scary when mom dad would take me to the shows and i'll walk around my hands and belong to long demo sides my hands would swell and it would it so that's part of the old hypertension thing Both shoulders area bingo. See there it is exactly so do your research and freer loved one. Day might be going through it. Research it. Google gets no symptoms. Were not young anymore. Sorry just being honest with you guys. We have to think about ourselves. And that's one of the things that i did not do and she told me time after time for two years. You gotta go to the doctor. You go to the doc i had. She was and i just said i'm fine. I'm there's nothing actually had several of our spiritual said. There was something wrong with me that i need to go see the doc. I need to go to the doctor like. Oh yeah and there's nothing wrong with me on the strong as an ox slowly for weeks ahead. I was losing now. This is coming after post. But i'm gonna talk about it. I was losing muscle strength. i was losing temperament. I was getting worse and worse. Here's the other thing that we didn't talk about this needs to talk about. Your temperament plays a big thing in this is you. Don't use you think everything's fine. It's not fine if you're getting angry with the person you love if you're getting paranoid thoughts if if you're just feel like a ball for no apparent reason you gotta go go to the doctor. Go to the doctor is telling you these are major issues with hypertension with blood pressure. Heart numbers are good except the cardiac and i'm level. They asked how i was here. yeah so they put me on the table. Was there for three hours. We're not gonna talk about the crap that she had to go through the support thing. But i know the next day they came in and they talked to me and told me the almost lost me on the table because again i was ninety nine point on in the widow. Which means if that blocked up not only. Are you looking at a heart attack stroke because why you're not getting oxygen to the brain. That's a symptom of a of a stroke Your whole system shutting down because it does not have proper flow. Think about it. Think about it guys So with the lack of oxygen to the brain that's changes. What your thought process. You're real your sleep patterns member. I had years of problems with sleeping turn and twist. That could not rest. Could not rest. This is part of you guys. It was over a period of time. Do you hear me. Period of time wasn't like this. There's things that you can see in in know your partner will know okay. Changing behavior Happy one minute. Schizophrenics freaking out the next lack of austin use brain is getting is when i remember. I came home that day from the hospital best. I'd go and here's was so calm. Osu cool they had a rooted on my arteries cleaning up. My doctor said But i felt great and nitroglycerine is the best thing owner. I didn't have the nitrous because of heart had nitrous because my blood pressure they use nitroglycerin to lower my blood pressure levels to the point where i could leave. I was there for four days right. And usually if you're getting a stint point in it's a outpatient deal you can go home the day doctor said you're not leaving no way. He did not even want me to leave that thursday. Because i was still at one. Twenty six on twenty four. You got down to one. Fourteen got right one thirteen. I got in one thirteen. Like all right. We're good so yeah so this is a big deal because this is leading into you know another area strokes okay. We'll talk about that in a second. So think about this in when you're in the field this is what we've been talking about when it's we're talking about it if you're in the field you're at an investigation you're going to perceive things wrong just being straight up honest with yaw. This is the truth. you're going to perceive things wrong. You're gonna see things wrong. You're gonna create drama and issues because it's not you it's just your body reacting to the situation and you're responding to what your body's fan you may not even think about it Sherry says definitely washy energy levels and the mental awareness confusion and being disoriented resigns midst on some. i've known who have had heart attack country. Our two strokes you Careful not definitely strokes. Rene says she was thirty three no blockage anywhere but died on the cast table. The doctors had me in for four weeks ran every possible. They had no idea why it happened until i saw a heart doctor. That said it was a virus that attacked my heart. There's nothing. I wasn't even talked about that yet. And that's a rare occurrence but we learned about that there are viruses that will attack the heart. And i'm not even gonna go into north but it is really scary because there are. There are viruses target arteries target. Fouls tiger your major organs. So again you eating or do you drink in. What are your round will you around. What's your stress level. The higher stress level the lower the immune system. But if you're with somebody this Lowering their words asthma. They've been drinking. Don't just assume they were drinking because they could be stroke or attack you know. Hey what's up there Okay for instance. How many times before. They Liz so she can answer as to how many times before the heart attack that. I have those extreme. I can't keep my thought. Or i was learned. My words or my words were being drawn together. I mean i did not have proper thought mentally or physically i. I was a stressed bucket. You know and ticking. Tom bomb But wiz and steve and serve others around me can tell you there were times in my. My words will rather typically bad and i was really just unable to put it together. And that's awesome. Now you can tell. If i didn't take my medicine or i've had too much now if you think about it 'cause i act that way now too much salt hypertension like like a light switch Too much shiver jitters. I can i get quiet Or you know. There's their symptoms. yeah absolutely. Yeah it's totally the or the incredible hulk. David van incredible oxygen thing. It's definitely that and facing saxon realize it and then looking at your overall health and one day you does it play that much. Yeah it does it. Really does hey. Laurie So you wanna be aware of yourself and listen to those people around you. They're the ones that are going to guide you. They're the ones that are really going to be able to let you know something's really up and don't be hard guys. Don't open your mind opening. And say i may have a frog Sound like an alcoholic or a drug. You i'm problem. Well he's to tell you but when you're used to something you think it's natural behavior. It's not there's a one percent chance for anything. I get it for sure. I was born with an almost nonexistent. Immune system. I was a girl in the plastic bubble growing up. Oh bobo girl. Oh oh yes yet you knew. I never that i recall yesterday was yesterday was one one boy. They used to go to school with us but unfortunately passed was nineteen but yeah he had a lot of health. Problems like that Let's love love the mighty rene thank god. You're here. blessing the angels the angels. So let's look at post after the effect of a heart attack cam to speak one on one with you guys once again on this. Listen to your doctor. Don't do what you think you can do right away not gonna happen one of the things and cat now. We're talking about this today. was you. People don't understand the effects of when heart attack happens how it affects the body and assumption muscles. It affects motor skills It can affect even thought process. And it's gonna sometimes give you phantom pains remember. I was saying that the painting that that's because when my widowmaker was finally opened. I was having pains in my neck. Come to find out that was because it's i'm actually getting blood. An artery is not wasn't used to getting blood circulation so phantom pains come into play You know when they say. Don't go back to work for four six weeks. Don't go back to work if you don't have to use your short term. Hey sharon she's actually than heroin name who Definitely listen to your doctor. Don't push yourself if you have short-term disability use it again hanan air. I'm hard as hell i. It's true you know. I went back to work too early. I started doing things too early. like the ford mifflin trip. I shouldn't have gone. I should not have gone. And now i know better. I should not have gone back to work when i did. Out of this I learned a lot more about myself. I learned that a lot of my issues were physical. And you'll find that and you can get to the doctor anton. They're able to do that. And you might not be restricted. You may be having a heart attack. Picking avid stroke. Why are you having blackouts. Why are you swore in your speech. Wires why why are you having issues with you're seeing and hearing my visions gotten better since heart attack bloodpressure getting that artery open. I hear a little better now. And i could see a little better. I'm old but comparatively speaking to way was before the heart attack much better Releases i'm thankful to the lord of buzz no problems since then only that Changed for the bad was my depression. Anxiety amt up way is yes and that's to other symptoms of either hire low pressure. Are those tools depression. Oh i hate chan. Texas eve rule and it works for some people. But i'm telling you it was not good for me Medications do your research and your medications make sure you know all of the side effects because they they will they will make your life liberty hill if you don't know what it is Buster sorry for him but he's running a little behind for okay. No problem buster. We appreciate you brother. Maybe going another time to talk about it So these are all the different things that we want to bring the table. Let you guys know about your personality. And where where's personality james. Did you see something something affects you. Did something change you. you are isn't that you're you're bp's too high. Isn't it hypertension. Where's this all coming from late now within that. Let's talk about the last major subject tonight. Hey everybody have. You heard jane code dan. Sorry off. So i'm sure by now. Everybody knows what a stroke is now. There's several different types of strokes. There's a stroke that is based on artery blood flow to or fund the brain Another is Dying brain cells the location Concussions to the brain swelling of the brain swelling of the brain. He'll cap okay. Your your brain sits in a cap that sits in your head. It's an a sack and is so things if it's swells that could cause a new shoe dehydration came caused this well Let's see sheri- is what do you think about heart rate that dropped below forty beats per minute Somebody's in hibernation. You know i. I know asian masters of come through martial arts or able to lower their heartbeats that love. I don't know how anybody it's slightly scary. Somebody don't have that bar of that. Hurt beeped out. Low and still be able to function Sherry says they tried to use And do not believe them. This that only high blood pressure causes the heart attacks and strokes. Low blood pressure isn't equally dangerous warming. And if you ever hear your harper heartbeat in your ears do not ignore it. Okay i'm gonna ask you. They take. That is a good symptom. That i did nor deny hear the heartbeat but my ears were getting clogged. Remember how much yawning i was doing. I was constantly yawning to clear my ears. And i could feel now that i'm able to look back on it now. My blood pressure when he wakes going high and having hypertension my ears would call up. That's a good one sherri thank you Very good point and your eyes swell They could tear up You have runny nose. I know it's crazy is but this is scott street. These are all true symptoms Aches and pains and Different affects coast and our pre heart attack or stroke. So blood pressure plays a huge thing in it. Now blood pressure into a stroke which means your heart may be fine but of your arteries maybe quad. We've heard about stents in the legs and your orders up here and your neck okay. So we know it's not a hard issue but it's circulatory issue which is why the brain is not getting enough oxygen or it's getting too much oxygen and a backup of carbon monoxide. That means does the dow on your right side. There's issue there because you got a backup the blood that's being held up in the brain or in your neck on this side and it could swell these are other issues it's gonna cost you to hallucinate. It could cause you to Have issues with your your balance. affects your cones in your ears and comes in your eyes If you don't know what the comes are definitely research and look it up a really good understanding of the human body With the cones to. I just wanted to shut up because they have a lot to do blood pressure. And is here's another one the the in and out when you're you're focusing and it can focus and then folks back goes back and forth taking note to that. There's a reason why that's happening. It's the live they'd be lack of oxygen and support to the To the visual points. Yeah okay so all of these things play into what we do now after a stroke. Let's look at some of the things that have happened. That many people are to hearing your face draws down slurred speech Audible okay. you can't do half the stuff which again Other things about Strokes is your motor skills your hearing They may return. They may not. That's the one thing about stroke. Depending on what the damages if there's damage and would it caused was it a a a nervous part of our nervous system attack. Was that stroke based on that was based on you know not enough war. I don't know if oxygen based on blood flow Artery collection or Swelling of a body. You know body parts such as the brain or the brain yo cap or even an artery or the next swelling sherry says. She drew from the doctor hospital for blood transfusions. Her blood pressure was something. Like forty eight over twenty four and they can understand how she was even alive. I had a blood pressure that doctors ninety eight over sixty just twenty minutes earlier than that. Well that brings up. What sharon just said. Just ask if we know anyway. I guess we do know somebody but now under forty but you know. That's that's really scary. Now what is it also sam. That's also seeing that that heartbeat is so slow that either there has to be a blockage in an artery or its that reek of an electrical pulse in the heart to pump the blood properly so those are scary things. Now why are we bringing this up again and the paranormal field because the side effects folks the things you get. Experience pre symptom post symptom. We talked about the pre loose nations. Yeah vision. Problems hearing problems Swelling this i assume for boating. That's not supposed to be there. She probably not having What was the other one. I'm trying to remember ason pains. It shouldn't be there and that attachment thing we were talking about detachment when shirts china stroke. So she was losing blood and they couldn't figure out where when four days and four transitions leader was back to normal The human body how we love it. So i feel your pain on this one i have. I messed up spleen so my immune system on the physical side is slightly skewed. Messed up. Because i had a booster shot. It's what they call it back in eighty eight. Which kind of tore my system all l. experimental shit right all right so these things have caused issues with me now. So here's a reason for the spleen. There's a reason for the kidney. There's a reason for bladder. These are all filtration systems for our body where a machine and our blood not just blood or plasma. Those fluids in our body need proper filtration. And if they're not getting it it's going to cost viruses caused disease. It's gonna mason make more acceptable to even darrow say. Std's is true buster says with my medical conditions. I i pay close attention to how. I'm feeling before any investigation that i do. I have learned how my conditions makes me feel when things are off. So i'm i'm make baseline of how i'm feeling before i investigate because i know how things can affect you in so many different ways. Um actually and how you're affecting the environment or you and your team members and your team emerged right. Yeah i mean you can. I'm i would lose to shoot it. You can be like on top of the game in the paranormal supernatural world. But if you're physically not in there then the people that are around you're gonna know it girls knew it cat knew it. Kim knew it And it's done nothing but made things better so cluster. I totally agree with that. Especially now being able to evaluate and have a better understanding of my personal issues post the heart attack and stroke So i i cannot agree with more. You have to know yourself. And those people around you. And i freaked. I was preaching that way. I've always preached that. But now is the time that i've really got to focus more of that. If i'm not having a good day. I have to sit there and go. This is not a good day. What's the best place for me Sharon says i i my heart doctor says i have a condition called pot. I actually know somebody else. That has that only picked them fifty years. Well it's one of these skewered things conditions that most doctors have never even heard of. And i'm now it's just now becoming more More well known what what's it like. What is it took out. I was an athlete athletic. That's why my heart rate is low. My blood pressure is considered normal for me. Usually one ten over seventy two. Yeah my blood. Pressure is normally low if i when you do the test on The pump thing and tells you you know here's your ranger mine lower than the lowest grade but that's on the normal basis just like his was higher than that now. Yeah yeah how many times you pull up. we're gonna take over. They should just stop them now. If i'm having a really bad day will go for the pump ago. Okay where's that what what's you know. Where are we at with it. I went in for surgery into the nurse was trying to take my blood pressure. And she's like oh my god. Are you even alive. People are usually nervous. Blood pressure is usually up when she gets is yours is barely registering. It's just my normal rooms Pop is a cinco which cinco that's terminology. I've never heard before the difference between a doctor and a medical care for writer Interesting Sherry says saying here buster. If i'm not physically and mentally up to it then. I just have to set back and not with myself or anyone else right where you can just pass out by standing up was really low. Blood pressure that yeah. Yeah because that's your thing is the the the When you get a little discombobulated vertigo. Faster you just even. If you just lift your head to pass really you can get a nice had been screwed jobs. I'm really down for a little bit cool. Yeah that's that's scary. It's very scary. So that's the purpose while we wanted to have this show. Tonight you guys was really bringing to the forefront because people don't take it as serious as they should free the event the event and it's just as bad for you not to pay attention to your doctor after having a dagger show because it is not going to the doctor. Races says i have. Adhd of blood disorder. The i have a problem with the formation of my veins etc. The doctor believe that might have caused my heart attack along with the virus. Attacking me okay insurances. Exactly that's why. I can't work or drive long distances myself. Oh believe me. I understand the longest in not being able to do that. I believe me. I'm right there with you and i. I'm just trying to read that. Because that was something that i could add to it. But now and that's the other thing is is their their blood viruses That attack organs not just heart so gotta be aware that too but basically we want everybody to be aware that it can be harmful to you in the field to be aware yourself. Get your team involved. Get those around you involved with your health That's just as love. Y'all discussions very informative to those that don't know or understand the topic and sherry says some doctors and not worth a nickel be sure to see a true medical care provider. Someone who listens to you and take notes and provides care not just hinting outdraws and just A patient number is on the doctor. You know doctors are really hard. It's just me years to find my doctor. And i loved her and i was with her for six years and then i moved here and i still afraid to try and find any doctor. 'cause it's such it's so overwhelming task because so many of them they just really. Don't listen to a word you say. They say oh they look at your medical records. Oh that's just what it period they don't listen to. That's not what i'm saying. What do you think about dr by. I really hadn't gotten a chance to talk to him. Eat a little quick thing. Yeah my my heart doctor. Years a trip He he doesn't play. It isn't any punches. They tells you as it is and boom. He's gone I i really respect my doctor. you know anybody any doctor that's gonna call me about my nickname instead of my. You know my first name and try to be more personal with me. I respect that. I also respect when he tells me not to mess up his stuff and He's just he's just shoot straight from the hip and says this is it. You can do it. You don't like it. Well you're gonna dock straight Sharon says my heart doctor said also i was extremely hydrated and so tablet and drink lots of water. Yeah you know one of those huge thing. I know so much soda so much so that people doing all this soda and if a hydrant. They don't realize that that's not actually hydrating their body at all right because it does not mean hydrating you just because it shows low-sodium doesn't mean anything. It's the sugars and other products. That are in into soda. Okay and you need to look and pay attention to what you're drinking. Well it's not. Just sodas especially diet and and zero g stuff. Not good for you bob away. Here's another thing me sharing. I don't drink soda. Don't drink gatorade when you're dehydrated though. No no there are certain things pedialyte so this. This came up. I got dehydrated walls at work after the heart attack. Your awhile back. And i thought i was having another heart attack or there's a heart problem. I leave work. And i go see dr by and he tells me after doing a couple of days you're dehydrated. What the hell are you doing. Because i was drinking gatorade. I was drinking somewhere. I have a problem for some people do but learning. But i was still drinking the wrong stuff or not drinking enough. That's another thing so flip it over. It's going to give you the exact same symptoms when you're dehydrated than it does when you're actually having that heart attack at least for me. That was scary. That day was saturday is catering makes her sick to her stomach. Yeah i really gatorade. Every neither I like the flash splash on the high-seas. But we believe. I'm like we don't like paying and i liked him so that's another thing but i again. Ten is a different byproduct. It's understandable those naked Juice fruit juice is the naked juices like the green machine. Those are really good like the sports terms and stuff. They're not ford strain But they are like veggie fruit drinks like kind of like a smoothie. Oh no no no. No no not my cup of tea. They're really get though. I yuki hauser's specialist. I saw with such a worthless attitude. Then it was what he was the one that didn't understand and started putting me on the wrong kind of men finally. He's she found a great doctor. A while defined really. You're seeing. i'm not ready to write. That file. sharing says she drinks water with ph levels. Yeah like tv label. Okay you know cat has turned me onto the pure a true dammit purified water purified what. Yeah that's that's actually pretty good. I can handle that. I'll fill up one of the the new orders. The big ones. I'll feel that up without enter frigerator rain buying it and take you with me. See i can't. I can't do tap water even if water. I can take all the minerals and stuff in it. And so i i just i can't. I have to purify my water on such a stickler for that very much so insurances smart water was ph. Yeah now. I did smart order late. The new war and you have a are. That's good stuff to and it hydrates me and makes me feel there but it can give me cramps at. I have too many so has to be careful how much order i drink to the amount of time so i know that about me as well And remember this to you guys when you drink sodas when it goes to your stomach it turns into a kind of a hard phone not good for us. We shouldn't be drinking shit It's really not good and it's addiction but it's true we really shouldn't In caffeine levels that are in some of these drinks. Holy mother of my coffee right She is worse. He has more caffeine than coffee is worse But just you gotta be careful drinking That's why i picked up some stuff this weekend. And i'll pick some up this week to take with me. 'cause i just tell them i can't stand straight or so but i knew i have to stay. Dehydrated had to take my medications medications and all these effects can cause and take away again. Pitch in to deviate. It'll it can cause more issues than you think if you miss your medication. There's been times where. I've gotten a little cranky copy. Yeah me too. I love me some coffee. I could probably drink coffee all day long. But i always usually have a glass of water with me as well so i drink coffee but in between drink water. That's routine started. Yeah she's got me on drink water here some point. 'cause that's not dehydrating Doing drinking coffee. Yeah not good healthy with the pop. Oh weren't yeah. I could see that pretty much ninety six coffee guarantee. I think copy. I make you know it used to make me sick. And i really should stop because sometimes we were just talking about this as we to that elise weird taste in my mouth. And i'm like yeah. It's between that. And the other bad habits that i'm trying to break. Yeah it leaves a film in your mouth but it's awesome down of caffeine in in the byproduct in coffee you you become addicted to it like anything. Drugs are so there you go the drug him. I enjoy my coffee drug. I know and everybody else enjoys her soda. I'm not a hater. I used to drink soda. I just have a i i. I just kind of weaned myself off. I just didn't even crave it anymore. I've got real good about that but there are times that here late that i'm drinking more and i need to stop again. I put myself from catholic high seat. Because i'm starting to find Drinking too much pepsi. Sharon says she her body. Can't handle a caffeine. Yeah i can. I can understand that. Yeah absolutely especially if you have type retention high blood pressure and you're prone to a heart attack. You really shouldn't be drinking not much Caffeine anyway we're just if this caffeine headaches during a break rough oh caffeine or the word. Walkers headaches for me equals will turn into a migraine. Yeah and those ones always you know. That's another thing too. People can mislead stern for migraine. That's the other one was looking for but also coffee can help a migraine. So the caffeine in coffee. Well that's having. Yeah i spend all that medicine migraine medicine on the money on it. Come to find excedrin. Migraine was the best thing for me. What twenty thirteen dollars. Compared with a fifty dollar bottle of comes to find out it was just my cranial cap expansion. Was doing this in my brain. Yeah crazy i you know what these pharmaceuticals kissing but They just want your money. Oh yeah so so. Hopefully this show is is brought a little idea and understanding to the forefront of medical issues in the field as medical marijuana. oh i use medical. Marijuana is well we're going there. We're going there. It's amazing with nausea. That is my what achilles heel. That is my weakness. My biggest weakness is not the and marijuana has done amazing things with making that. Go and helping you margarines. Yup and i've switched. And i am now using cd To help with my attention. So you know you gotta do what you gotta do and start out with this stuff. That's best for you. What's natural for you. 'cause i could be on crazy medications right now for blood pressure and hypertension but Cat and sherry got me on a regimen of the cd. And i was like this isn't gonna work for work. Oh works charon paul. Do you smoke favor at a moment. All of the above legalize in virginia now makes it a heck of a lot easier so yeah everyone pin five hundred dollars a medication for being it would basically where what i could get from you know from a reliable sources basically whatever you know if that's edibles if that deve for that's you know actual but courts your book your i mean i would prefer heart but they can be a little expensive you before carts over bud Less coughing less tar more potent Okay let me know reliable source we can actually. We can't buy plants yet. We can't grow are plants. Yeah they they have a state program to buy sees okay so you know. That's really weird. Got the last Four minutes three minutes of the show and that's another thing that's completely confusing there. Virginia is trying to do it like they handle merge that they're trying to make a profit off of it they're trying to keep it down to low. You have to buy the seeds there. Virginia you can only have four plants. All plans have to be over household. They have to be registered. Okay so you're playing has to have a number you can't buy a green plant and how you also have to have. It is a feeling so now. This is on the normal side of things and i. I just don't understand that concept mind. You just went july for so there. Things are going to change when they realize what does and doesn't work and you still need a A legalize medical card to purchase it. Which doesn't make any sense either. So it's kind of legal but it's kind of not you can have a certain amount of person but you can't i. It's they've made. It's still very confusing. But but there is a flaw in their paperwork then when it comes to the amount of plants so that's an interesting one down by lawyer by the way suit legal to legal eye dr and his brother growing their own mandatory. Glaucoma famous visions. Hey you go. Absolute assurance send some dvd dummies. I'm not much. I'm these i'm not i don't go. I don't do nothing. I just don't white gummy. I never have. I wanna try the lowly. She won't awali. I haven't been able to get one yet. I really wanted try. is what it is so basically when we swim talked about this why we're bringing up 'cause we want you guys to do. What's best for you if marijuana helps you do what you gotta do. He's still responsible do responsibly. Do it smart remember. It can affect your thought. It can affect your subconscious could affect your conscious to be careful when you're smoking how you smoke it. And how long of a period before you go investigation implant going pay you'll love the dope That's like catching you'll love. 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The Orion Effect : Virginia Paranormal Now

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The Orion Effect : Virginia Paranormal Now

"Love radio From everyone here at the rift radio network would like to welcome you to tonight's special broadcast. This work is protected by creative commons license and now a word from our sponsors Ladies and gents do join jazz. Then blast cool advanced on nine eleven o'clock facebook and on you to swear again come out normal soup every day The annual michigan go card tax september twenty fourth and twenty fifth down at one hundred clear. Dr houghton lake michigan. Four eight six to nine. You can find the event at. Www dot facebook dot com backslash ima- u. f. o. c. o. n. or you can go directly to their website founded. Www dot m. i. u. s. o. Seal dot com hughes lineup of guests as well as speakers and banners to inform inch gate on you follivy as well as museum ship and so so much more i lineup such as andrea peron very white crow john titi nick franchise mike clean on admitting many more with vendors and authors of all types produced by deb and rj rouse of michigan paranormal investigations teams sponsored by mystical awakens radio and the radio podcast network september twenty four and twenty twenty one. The michigan ufo on Welcome to be ryan okay. Sorry was actually how the wanted to do the show tonight. Travelers those like welcome to the show. I didn't think he's gonna hit it in Before of course we play the intro to row talk radio. Well i'm having a hard time with this Unfortunately this weekend we lost sheila gay. She passed away in her sleep. Vacations haven't been turned off anywhere. Somebody being rude. That's right Back in my mind me that was. Yeah probably Sorry about that. You guys So in tribute to sheila I wanted to play her intro tomorrow night For those who may not have seen the video that was placed out on the wrist radio pot network. Fan page Road talk will air one more time on a silent mode and honor of sheila and and the honor of her family. her husband. Her wonderful husband will and her wonderful children will junior and civil at our loves to you guys And we'll play that again as our top of the hour break just to give tribute one more time sheila. You'll be seeing things about sheila. Throughout the week on the network. And what fundamental person. She was an creationist networking but God rest your soul godspeed And our loved to you. We have an interesting show tonight. This is our series or annual series of junior paramore. Now where we have our wonderful friend. John stephen kamal is in a minute. Okay my prima tissue. Where we're going to do is we're gonna talk about The special events places and things around the commonwealth of virginia along with the state surrounding It's always a pleasure to have john on the last time you saw him. He was actually in house with us. This time. it was probably best that we just did it like this tonight. we wanna take everybody who Who's joining us or has join us at forty this network and supported the show all the shows network So what we're gonna do is. We're going to bring john right on. Hopefully our connections still sounds good because energies crazy around here right now Let's say Mr steve you with us sir. The hitman areas yeah and It has endure. Hell you look doing better and And you know it's just you know what happened last night with sheila and kind of made it a a week you'll never forget but Glad to be on here tonight and stand you cat and Sorry i can't be there. Y'all in person because i think it We bring it up a notch on. When i'm actually in studio but i'll have to. I'll find out where. I'll find out where you live and i'll just make a house call next time and bang on the door right. Things are changing. We're trying yeah. We're trying to make the show a little bit more progressive for those people in town that want to come and have a coffee at the cosmic coffee table with all this zoom or whatever so we can just bring the. We're talking about youtube now. So visit people can see the the caller as well as us if they want that. A lot of the callers have liked the idea of not being able to give them the option but always having john you know with us has always been a great time. It adds a certain amount of energy and impact. So we really enjoy having you on john. I just want to make sure that they you hear that. And you know that you know you're really respected and we love having you on the show. Yeah and and you know. I will say this. You had said something earlier today when you were when you were talking about seila and and i thought it was appropriate 'cause i loved everything he had to say. And you had mentioned about what people can mean to you and you know. We take that for granted sometimes but it. It made me think of all the friends that i've made in the last couple of years especially in this field and people would have never thought the need or or build a special relationship with that i just. I probably talked to somebody every day. That i didn't know a couple of years ago but do this news field and and and and this project that i have Junior paranormal events as opened up a lot of friendships. And i and i really appreciate that. I mean i i just i would. Entertainment is is Catching up with people not necessarily to talk about paranormal home stuff. But you know let's get together and and and have dinner. And and i've got that kind of lining up and i know that with the way things have been the last year that it's it's you know it's it's been nearly impossible to get together on a social basis. But right i think with vaccine. I think with the life of the virus and and the way things i can almost see us getting back to where we can start Being in person with people and and enjoy their company. And i will say the when i go to a paranormal events. I was once the person that didn't know anybody and i was once the stranger. That didn't know what to expect and often tell people that if you're one of those people that's never been to an investigation. Never had a chance to meet someone. Like how del katrina and and dennis us law in steve deals and the list goes on and on. And you don't know who these people are You know me. i'll be glad to introduce you. Say you know they. They took me and they said hey. This is and they introduced me to dinner. And they introduced me to steve and and uh and ryan jones and and And really got my foot in the door per se and it made me feel welcome. So that's what we try to do here and it's what it's all about is is we have a lot of new people. We have a lot of people that have never been. Investigators are afraid to go 'cause they don't know what to do or no no any about it and and i just right out there for people to come and if you don't if you've never done it you can hang with me and i'll and you know and be my sidekick showed me some things and and and i know i'm not alone in that And you can sit right in. I remember Right up in that room where we were broadcasting last time in the upstairs and the cabin and i'm okay with jerry some other people and we have some people up. There never met before but before the night was over with. I was good friends with them. Then good friends with them ever since. So that's what has. Sometimes these best can do. And people like you and and dennis ryan and and i know that i'm not just throwing names out there because i'm gonna leave out so many people that are really special special for res and you said it earlier when you were talking about sheila and what she had meant to you and what. She's into paranormal world. But these events are fun they can be scary can be exciting and they can be really just a lot of fun you know just to see people and talk and it's getting the right and that's sorry i went on talk special and your special to me and your special a lot of people and i just wanted to share that with you because what how what you went through earlier this week okay. I touched a lot of people. And i and i know i sent you a message That i was getting so many messages. Sent some to the virginia paranormal events page. You know please send the well wishes to highway and stuff. And i just want you know i wanted to let you know at that time. You know man you are and i just wanted to say that so i appreciate that really. Drew me to me behind every great man as a great woman. Raider woman greater woman for the listeners. That are tuning in right. Now we're not sure what he's referring to. I did have a major heart attack at the beginning I got a stint put in my Widowmaker always ninety nine point non-blockage I spent three days or bad right when thursday thursday. I spent three nights in iraq doctors on fourth avenue with an incredible staff. And i've got give props to dr My doctor and the doctor was amazing. i've never seen a man come in. Say what he had to say. Get the hell out of the room. Hey he came in. Oh also almost a bit slow through point night. I think that's it. But i cleaned you up. Okay you got okay. Good seattle later and shut up the room. What was that. That was my daughter and it was just amazing. He didn't play but he told me. When you to cut out the room. Hey ron hey ron lou. Hello and for. I gotta give props to my entire staff Both morning and evening staff at enrico doctors fourth avenue fifth-floor cardiac care unit except for the leave separately. Adleman she can in reebok would go okay but that you know mad props them our staff. They took so good care of me. i made sure i was taking care of an everyday. Made sure she was kept. You know contact with me. Give them up whenever she wanted. So thanks for bringing that up. I didn't want to talk about it but you know john. I appreciate the love that you receive shared with me and everybody else. Thank you so much It was a scary week. And unfortunately i note but Following a wish and i'm got i have a goal and determine now so welcome to the riff nation. We're going to do just a little bit better. Did so thank you. Everybody and john thank you again Because it it's been a rough week on more than one front but we did. And we're also. Sean loved the people we need. Show up to arrest week now for something completely different. Yes john which owner store the next couple months brother which will always like. How do we do this. Should i just go down a list or just tackle one of these at a time. Because i'll tell you what. Every time i get to a place that's happening event. I've got a story or it means something special to me and of course a lot of these places Still on my bucket list But i'm gonna get them knocked out but what. What i like to do is promote particularly state virginia. But it doesn't have to be. But it's mostly the state of virginia for one and know what's going on and i will say this In the last few months a lot of things got cancelled There wasn't too much going on Some places we're having some private events and things like that but they didn't want to made public certainly i can understand that The state of virginia came down pretty hard on some paranormal groups that It was almost like they were singling them out They were allowing over things to go on. But you couldn't have but couldn't handle more than ten people at these events of these events just basically to get cancelled and it really made me because some of for outside events so if and we're not yeah we're not even talking about large. We're not even talking about large group. We're talking about split groups of less than eight people truth and so but he to say a lot of them got cancelled Some of them have been Reschedule and so. I like to promote things in virginia. i like to teams that. Are doing these indicates because there are some really really strong. good teams. I feel like I feel like we've got you know several these teams here in the in the richmond central virginia area. It's like chandi in of the families together. You know and and get the get the get the date. Get the calendar squared away. Because if there's anything that i can't stay there's wednesday when you have to three events scheduled for the same night and i'm like oh no Yeah i'd rather them just But as it was for that a lot of times these these places dictate to them when they when they want to have an event so they don't give them an open calendar they say hey on june twelfth. This is the weekend. Are you interested in you. Know they One of the things that going on Rt l. was actually at Doing an event last night at the beacon theater. And i can't wait to see what evidence they got up that that's a that's a really cool like good place to go see concerts to But yes the the paranormal stuff that goes on in that place that the the people only Maybe they wouldn't come there and play but it's a It's a place that That the archie. Oh paranormal mary. promotions You know have really Started doing they've done to events they're already This year I hear there's another one Plans so they're very open to doing it. Plus it's a very large facility. So that's one of those places that they tried to control the amount of people that were signing up and they did and then social distance while they were there and but they have several locations in there so we were able to keep the the group sizes down considerably and right. When we were all together we were in a big auditorium. So everybody said far away from everybody so So hopefully some of these events start to start to pop back open One of my favorite places. That's coming up Next on the twenty seventh of march is Fans ten. Paranormal and steve deals put on an event at the hanover tavern. And k. where can you just have Let's do this to john. Let's let everybody know when each site. Where exactly if we can get a good idea of where the locations are that you know you speak about I think you're better p better idea because speaking of beach though isn't beacon and chester. It's the present hopewell downtown. Hope that's okay. And uh and they are still you know they used to be a pretty still up calendar full of concerts and events all the time so the the the paranormal events now are equaling. The same amount of concerts are doing there so head over tavern is in It's the northern hand over. It's it's it's very near ashland so in three. Oh one and it's a very historic average right across the street from and of a courthouse complex and the old hanover courthouse. And it was a place that they know that george washington kane and stay and it was a A place where he came in and stopped so this the history of it goes back to the mid seventeen hundreds and mortar tavern built in and then other part added later but what a great place and they are starting to do more paranormal events. There and i'll say one of the reasons. Why steve deals just became. He's the head of france. San fan normal. He just the came in the last few months. The president of the channel tavern foundation. So after i congratulate him with that i was like now. You can really start doing a lot of events there and he has. He's been doing more and more so which is only thing you know But that's a very interesting place. And i'll say that this event next Next week on march twenty seven. It's a you sign up and you can do nine to eleven or eleven thirty two one thirty so it's to our investigation and you'll see several places inside the tavern up got other places huge Right and i'm it is very very act very active. I mean they have. They've had people Steve deals is actually seeing a dabo gang or of the guy that used to be the president. There he has right they have seen britian. They have seen Things flowers shelves they have had countless either. Ps coming out of their offered. Several of them and i've across the street is the old hanover court house and they and they can and will do. They'll do that as well. They'll go in there and do and do an investigation. I've also had the opportunity to do the oldest day this. Yeah i don't. I don't know last time i was there. They they didn't open it but if if for some reason that jail is is available to be investigated. That's worth the price of admission just by out so just by one of in adsell right when you walk in that bill. The hair stands up on the back of your neck. There is things that have gone on in that jail people being hong actually inside the judge inside hangings with inside the jail Especially if i remember correctly when it was someone who Community really wanted to get their hands on. They would seal the spell down and actually hang them right inside They call it a hangman's floor. That's a mistake and floor to the first floor. Yep yes and you know i had. I don't consider myself a psychic or anything like that. They didn't know the history of that. And when i was going up to the second floor i feel a presence that that was like. Here's something really really wrong or strange or all about this. Yeah and then right then they said well you know you're standing right where the trap door was where they dropped the people through the floor and and and they were home and So like i said the last time they didn't open it up I don't know the society of a security thing now but hanover tavern is is a great awesome place they do tours there on a regular basis Where you can take go store. They will take you through the whole place which i highly recommend because you hear all the stories you hear all the evidence you get to see the tavern At i and Especially quite gorgeous at night too. By the way i just wanted to add that it is. It is really a pretty building at night. It is amazing what why are good restaurant. I haven't been there yet. The restaurant good. I'm i'm not going. I don't lie to my travels in those like the food's a little expensive but it's it's it's gone. It's good to so i want say right. And it's and it's an event place so they have a lot of weddings there. They have a were. They took the carriage house out bad and they turned it into a an event location. Where you know that's they. Can you know have all these. You know all the room to for for big wedding events and actually Ceremonies and things like that but it comes into play when we have these big gift. Paranormal events where you have a lot of people show up and you can have this big auditorium Right there with tables and everybody can relax and go over the evidence and and find out how everything went and hear all the stories I'm a. I'm a big fan of the of the hanover tavern. And what's t- deals is going to turn to that. you know. He was going to have a he was gonna have a parak- on their back in january and it got cancelled got cancelled in december But it was it. That was going to be the first. But i have a feeling that that's gonna be a yearly thing going on and it's just gonna get bigger and better as i told him. I said you have a chance. You have one of these historic places that you can really make it. And they spent location to go see. Promoted outside of the state will come down. Three zero one and hit that place and they. They won't be disappointed and sherry wants prop volunteers who do go down and do some of the volunteer work there. Yeah i know. He's been promoting that in people to come and do that sort of thing. It's just a I think everything that's going to be going on there. It's just going to get. There's gonna be more need volunteers and things like that. But there's so much going on. I mean impairing oil that it's a it's a. It's it's a definitely a a very happening. Plus something seems to be going on there every neider. Right I there's a. There's an event coming up in april. We're not we're not that far. It's less than a month away All the big mikan and it's Going to be a scene out. And i've never seen albums in radford virginia and that's a little bit south of of christians berg were Virginia is but it's in downtown. Radford and say albums was a reformatory. i believe or i. i'm a. I'm an probably butcher that it's probably you know. I can't really remember all been but it was i. I'm sorry those are boys referred first and then it was turned into a sanitarium for wealthy clients wrote on their no. No not during this area. Actually that was one of the probably A few Asylums because it was for upper class it was for like governor son or you know It was it was very very nice place. They kept up with the The top Medical rehab ways like they did a lot of hydrotherapy and stuff. They did not do shock. Therapy there they would send the decline out for therapy and they needed it they did. They did not do lobotomies there. They didn't do anything so the only thing that bad that really happened there was crime basically inmate on inmate or however. You want to cuss a patient on patient patient patient faculty on patient. There were two instances They won't medical that the one that we're referring to Was there is not one hundred percent Positive that it was a medical Employees on a patient but something did happen into boiler room but nobody knows this story right. We're not one hundred percent. Their winter really blood found there they actually looks for it and they and they found the pool of where the blood was supposed to be. Sweet people yeah. The boy is in. There was the story of a little boy Unfortunately with a resident that But other than that. But i mean yeah i mean obviously here good you guys gonna talk to because we run their issue time. We've done this show twice and we absolutely love. saint albans and staff. Okay if there's anything to be said it's about the staff of saint albans the entire staff. Everybody that Is they're putting in their hours yet. you gotta be marcel or anybody that comes in to give their. She did the twelfth worth the first. Scott gearhart yeah and that was. It was amazing because she has all the stories on everything. That's happened there and It's just an amazing place so who's going to be at a 'nigma con man I knew you would ask me that There as a as a As farrakhan it's got a whole host of people that are going to be there johnny harris with our rv. Paranormal here in richmond The tendency rates acer's steve and Not steve a mike and Who's the other guy mark You have to muslim guys from ten to taxes there kris. okay. Thank you sarah okay. I can't i mean there's really. I'm just like this No yeah i don't know brand is going to be there or not. He hasn't been coming to a lot of the events. But i'd like to see him because he's always a real approachable guy. Not that they aren't they aren't all i mean they are. That's how we'll say that you've ever doing event with these guys they They will hug you. They will shake your hand and they go out of their way to make you feel like they've known you long. God that's nice. Yeah and you can't really fake that And they're and they're pretty you know they're pretty down-home guys. I mean like Mike he's a. He's a big town fisher. You know he likes to bass fish or something like that. I mean you can talk to him about that all day and used. Obviously he played Played guitar in a band and stuff like that. So if you wanna talk rock and roll you know. He's the guy to talk about that Brandon if you have anything technical you wanna talk about cameras that ideas about stuff. Don't talk your head off once you going you can't get to stop So a lot of these guys those two guys in particular and the tennessee rates aces even when he was involved with them Were they're all approachable and A lot of fun to be with an investigation with i. I'm looking forward to it. You gotta bersten. Go ahead you said martin allen marston Is going to be another guy. That's going to be there seals And you want to be a presentation Matthew hough in greg graham at a bonnet Robin terry miranda young. Just a names off the top of my head. Connor sisters connor sisters. yeah Actually yeah that's right you know. I've never met them face to face. So you How excited i am about this. And i was talking with john sullivan A few months back and he's going to be there They don't they're not speaking or anything but there are a lot of hearing groups. Mike perry With area river Paranormal from up near culpeper. They're gonna be there I just said you know. hey. I'm getting there friday night and whoever wants to hang out friday night because i like the stories that were this is that i heard. I know those guys survive i really. Don't you get all these guys together. All i can say is i had one. I had one guy tell me that they met at somebody's room and they had a lot of liquor and then they went somewhere else and there was a lot of lake are and then then. They somehow got over to saint albums and and they started investigating that like four o'clock in the morning on a night they weren't supposed to be there and and had to be at the pair of calm the next morning which was only like five hours away. So that's what Was thursday night and and they left sunday so it was like woodstock for paranormal. I guess raymond and i sharing donald molnar is gonna be there. You know dr don. I don't know. I haven't heard if he's going to be there. I had to reach out to him. You know And and he's a special guy. You know i i really you know. He's just tremendous guy. And i got a couple of things to say here and thank you for bringing his him up because i wanted to give a shout out to him. You know back a few months ago. He had major hip surgery hip replacement. And i could. I had talked to him before he had it. And then i talked with him. And i kept up worthing through his Naturally it had surgery only. Because i've had the same surgery and i could give ideas of what to expect and everything that we've kept in touch before that. I had had the opportunity to investigate with him. Ethics exchange. Oh okay and telling you what. There's no better person to investigate. And a place. Then with dr dong doctor i mean he. He is freaking aging and he little little quick story here. So you know. I'd go in. I've got a recorder. And i've got a camera and you know maybe one of the little piece of equipment. I've got several. But i don't like to carry a lot of things right and we're investigating the upper stairs of the exchange and i said i said hey don do you have You have a millimeter or or ems detector. He's like. I said you have another recorder goes do i have a recorder. And he opens back now. Most people have like these cases where they opened up and everything is separated. You know perfectly so they don't get it all just destroyed. He's got literally one of these doctor medical bags he opens it up and he's just starts pulling out he said i've got five recorders here. I've got four. Em after attackers. I've got like three millimeters. I've got and he's just call him stuff out left and right. Look at all these Different gadgets. I've got and i was like and it's all just thrown into the bat just throwing it but and you know but just investigate with him and his experience and the things that he was willing to try. And then you you know. It's fun when you're a risk somebody who's just done this for a long time can tell you some stories and and things that have happened to them especially someone like him in his field where he sees death and the You don't really have a lot of doctors that have opinions about the afterlife or about ghosts or whenever you get a chance to talk with somebody like that. They have some really unique perspective on things so sorry to get off when a change. But i'm hoping maybe talking into comic It'd be great now. i think there's i think there's tickets still. I'm only allowed to do minimal driving or a minimal traveling unfortunately for a little while In fact that's until april. Right where i you know. That's the one thing is we're actually going to push the luck next weekend. But i'm not driving so that's positive But you know there is a lot of things going on and even around here. And i'm going you know you were talking about hanover tavern. She's never experienced tavern The exchange hotel In gordon's village. Virginia and orange county was another winter feeding house Again that's out a assignment crossroads Catherine i there's people who love to camp as another location to go check out for activity when a camp. I just shoot things out right now. John what are you doing. I'm like i gotta go with this because my brain gets you don't want to go shoot it up pew. I mean i'd have to check out. They don't let we might have to go now. Absolutely yeah those a long everybody. It'd be nice if some of them have meant to Some of them were gonna come to three six cabinet either. We didn't make it or they didn't make it right so yeah absolutely. I'm supposed to sit down with a glass of wine and michelle. Oh yeah that's right. Yeah this is one of ourselves girls yup right so you know what you've got me interested. Why so i just I mean i. I'm actually looking at it as the investigation saying because i've never been there but that's like almost an afterthought that's icing on the cake. Compared to you know everything else that's going to be going on their. Oh we get to investigate okay. That's the reason. I'm going in the first place i you're gonna love it. We've been lucky we've really hang out. Nobody else was in there. It was pretty cool. She's now that's that's where i've gotta do it. You know somebody else. A just sent me a message that they were trying to a big enough group to go in and do one of the private investigations there. It's something like six hundred dollars for the night or something like that and you had to have eight people I'm not sure about all the numbers there but there that that's an idea for some people that they're maybe you hanging around a few people and you want to go do something like that. Hey there's a possibility. Yeah that's that's always a good thing that 'cause you're gonna location people been to before they got staff that's qualified to be there for you to support you especially if you're a newer team or if you're going with a meet up group yeah and if you wanted to break off his average that would not be a problem three buildings. Yeah yeah i mean you. You don't have to worry about contamination rate. Yeah so john if this is your first time going there you're going to have a very interesting experience because it's like going to Pinhurst or somewhere like they're it's it's a first experience time never the same as any other other place. How we get to do the scare- scared. Oh i actually worked for with. Saint albans Twenty nineteen Yeah scare you. Haven't heard call yep. I was actually volunteer for saint albans haunted house the haunted houses Raising money for a charity there Did he lost his voice playing beetlejuice. Be up. i was used. That's true i I was the honorary beetlejuice. The the you know High profile person there It in valentim's twenty twenty. Yes valentine's the twenty twenty My character was there. And i'm not going to say what is for people that will come through that. I may return but it was. It was really great mean. Chris harman did that together. Paranoia hammy so we like to leave because of all the screeching. I was not able to fit. That can't do fun houses or stuff like that. But it's understandable so my other girlfriend went watching it. You do the the the haunted. I get migraines. I can't be alone around that much noise especially high pitched screeching. Is that people screaming or just noise of any. Yeah it could be noise of any. It depends on the noise. what yeah was what. What frequency the noises and how. It's persistent now. Let me ask you this so when you when you do investigation have you ever like had had an attack like A migraine that just came on and you of associated with it being a you know something. Paranormal actually caused you to have the the migraine. I never have. I don't say that but so many is one of those. Sp seven and it's and it's going continuously so yeah that's true. That wasn't a good point. Yes i go into a house. They'd makes their own like candles. Or so if i walk into that room it's an instant migraine real. The fragrance So yeah so. I i have to There's so many things that can trigger it like. It's it's an awful thing to have. I realized that because I you know. I've worked with people that are like that and and and sometimes and they have no way of controlling it. When it happens it happens and then they're done Gated with somebody the wayside in one time and they They had a We were rating us. We had just started the investigation and they had a massive migraine attack and had this actually did let out of there and and they didn't come back. I don't know how i did. But i did it. John if you'd call back in Ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for your patience on blog. Talk radio listening in We do appreciate. I'm going to actually put us rate into our top of the hour break and we'll have a chance to talk to john here in just a second The ladies jets hit you. Don't do team to join jazz and blast and co every night. Eleven o'clock book and jud to swear after you get Come out normal soup coverage starts night and we are back here on the rift radio network. The orion affect the virginia paranormal now. John are you with us. Yes i am can you ever. Yes for the first time ever. I able to fix a problem with a computer problem. My fix the problem. We don't know the accent is because Because i felt like your heart doctor there for a minute. Thank you john. I assume you go be a -til you say your sugar. No having sex nodal. Talking point often no eating red meat no eating anything with candy. no no nothing No cigarettes no cough. Harry learn this neighbor food. So yeah Your father what it is really want to live for. You know you thought you thought all those things what you were living for but when they get all taken away from you really find out what it's it's true you You really find that you take a lot of things for granted for what you can't eat and your health annual relationships So yeah it's true you have to reevaluate everything How you communicates people what you eat. How you when you eat it. 'cause right now. I have reached all persons status. I am on a dedicated schedule of heart pills Field at eight o'clock okay. Just two years ago. Don't let him fool you don woman you know unfortunately slow through I i will i. So i will say this. That i was a I was a smoker for a long time. And i had this that that major hip surgery and when i went in i was like you know how underworld i'm going to be in the hospital for three or four days. How am i gonna. I'm gonna get a cigarette you know. And so when i went in for the surgery and they do that that that pre op stuff and the nurse came in you. Know they had given me an epa dural and numb me from the waist down and she comes in and she's asking me all these questions. Here's us here on your chart that your your smoker. Yeah that's goes. I just said and i said you said and She said 'cause you're not going to smoke anymore and i was like well hot. You've smoked your last cigarette. And i was like. Oh really and she goes. Yeah 'cause you won't heal. If you smoke again your body is going to need all can cigarettes. just gonna. you'll be right back in here having surgery again. If you start smoking you don't want to do but you don't want to talk to me again right. That's the only thing i said. I don't want to go back to that. I don't not okay. Here's the weird part and you said that and that's a good point john. I don't mind to make this a big episode of our Episode together. But you know you brought up. Let's talk about real quick so people growing or what are you talking about okay. First of all the experience. I had in catherine's ization was really good. It was pleasurable. I've heard horror stories i have. I've heard horror stories than i don't remember shit. I remember talking to delay gone. I remember waking backup on. Oh is it all done. I had no damn clue where i was but i remember growing up to the room and then cat litter absolutely livid but hey Not not to me no just eh situations And they told me the same thing and then you know i was. I was curious cigarettes. Do not lower your heartbeat. they raise your heartbeat So along with having that ninety. Nine point nine. I have had hypertension so when i got the hospital. My bp was to thirteen two more. And i had a stroke so they had to get my hypertension down along with cleaning all the lines which he did you know he said i cleaned you all. You don't miss. It increases your blood flowing creases. Everything doesn't lower you so we used to say like i'm gonna take a cigarette it's gonna be it's gonna comfortably you know it's gonna make me call it's not doing. That is the absolute reverse when you're smoking and and it's sad how addicted we are. And i'm i'm saying it Gives a it's been a rough day and Fell off the wagon But i'm going back chant tax waiting for me. Oh god but it's true And smoking cigarettes especially with heart. Problems is the worst thing you could probably do and healing. That's one of the other things because you're pushing the nicotine your heart and it's making your heart pump faster blood pressures going up. And you're you're getting that palm when your heart not supposed to have that especially after having a stunt or placing is supposed to let it heal. Unfortunately batboy It's true john and that's smoking with heart disease. There's a reason why they really do okay. So we fixed the problem. There are some things there are some things that you can that that that will help and The big thing is is you've been able to go two or three days without a cigarette forever long. You're in the hospital So it can be done and second of all your body does go through withdrawals and You do crave nicotine. You do crave all the things that go along with all the habits i mean i. I don't to tell you that. I mean i i live and i live it every day and Yeah if i tried to smoke a cigarette now it would. it would kill me. I mean. I mean as far as you know my lungs are are back healthy again and and if i breathe in anything like that that i used to breathe in that would just it would hurt. It would probably burn and and you know and then probably gets it. You know the the russia gene and stuff like that would probably make me say right things. You can do to help Yourself and and you know. The gums The nicotine gums do help and things like that and of course there are a lot better for you than than than breathing in this stuff. But i know you're not supposed to promote vaping. But i'm telling you for some vaping has a perfect. Yeah and it's not for people to be on it for a long time. And i've and i i they without ever having any nicotine in my bet so i went straight cold turkey on the nicotine but i was able to satisfy sometimes having something. I'm going into my lungs right. Able to hold in my hand being able to breathe in. That's i'm an oral fixation or to see. Yeah i'm you on our language pressure. We can't right so especially after you eat something sweet after dinner and you're used to doing that So i've ached for about a year but it was non nicotine. That's that's the thing. I know a lot of people that do the full nicotine and and and and you can and and you can lower You can go and stages and lower. But i did nine right from the get go. No nicotine and Like i said i haven't. I haven't bathed in you know four years. Three three or four years now and so Haven't had a cigarette. You know in in believe it or not and Ten years you believe. It's been that long. Unfortunately i had done that well. Fortunately i'm not gonna say. Fortunately i'm down that road I do wanna make a comment before we get back into normal. And what's going on. Virginia is sherry made a good point. she said Take a lot of showers. And i can understand especially if the nicotine sent off however this is something else. I think you know john. If you wanna be a part of this show that i'm looking at it would love to have you on and maybe a couple of other people talk about heart disease and and Oh man stroke those different things Because a lot of people are missing formed about the signs of a heart attack and stroke. They're not told. People are not told all the sides so i wanna talk about that some point this year ever show about that. 'cause they're just share my experience with people and they'll find everybody's different and the experiences they tell you to look for In your experience in his case the ems didn't even see him as heart attack. You just saw him as pressure like for stroke risk And that's why they got him over to the emergency room. It wasn't until they hooked him up to the ekg machine that anybody had any idea he was having a heart attack and then once they got me on that the nurse looked to me ripped off the first one slowly started. Buckling me up. And goes mr odell. Listen me things are going to start moving very quickly for you. We gotta do this. We got a couple of things. And i'm going. Oh crap you know she's like we gotta do this and we gotta do that and we got to get you to go doctors. She's like you are having a heart attack. And i'm like oh shit it a symptom ahead when not nine normal symptoms so what can have shown we can never show and talk about that sometime but something that's share. You brought up talk about showers. Do not and i'm going to stress this do not if you've just had a Cario issue take very hot showers. That is a big no now because you're sitting your system in a systematic at something else that we learn Too hot of water in cats experienced this a couple of times it you are. You're in the water too long and it's too hot. Your system goes into shock. So i just want to put that out there cool you know. Give it to a decent warm and deal with it. If you're out water don't do it. Well i mean just don't do excessive okay burger skin on. Bless your no. But i mean i used to make it hot enough so that my skin was read. You still do gonna ever stroke. Stop that shit alec shower and i quite when you say. Take a hot shower. And i quite that with talking to my ex wife. So it's about the same. Sorry that was good. You know that is so yeah. I'm all for that show. It's a show that would be a good thing they may. Hey maybe doing it. In february heart month we gotta keep you around another year to get your ever do that. So you know I i never tried to tell a smoker. You know to stop smoking. I mean nobody can tell me nobody. You could lay out all the bad stuff there is. You're not going to give me to stop and and And yeah you can call that you can call that a lot of things. But that was yeah. It was his pleasurable You just have to realize that that that they're they're It it can be a big lie. Right there are you can be Have the same opposite effect that cigarettes give you an elation of feeling good and we know what's ally because it's usually short term drugging bait drug induced. Your four. You right works in but there is the opposite. There is the nonsmoke- feeling healthy breathing. Air and saying. I don't need the drugs to make me feel good exactly report. And that's actually better lizard especially me. encouraged me for the summer. Her and i going back and hiking and getting back in the mountains. So exam is going to help me get back on track where i was used and years and years ago so i totally understand i do but You know you try to you. Just try to satisfy some. And and and and and you know. I had to do nick nicotine. Gum a lot and Chewed out of it and and did it for a long time to and that hill but it you know it's there's no substitution. There are things that you can do and the and the report is exactly what it's just a big law But you know maybe seeing it from the other side of the same now so yeah and there's not many times i'll see people with a cigar and i was never i don't smoke cigars. Never have. But when i see people that are non they're non smokers but they enjoyed us are a good glass with radio or pipe and And that looks enjoyed. I don't know if i could do it. I can probably do the play part. But you know one shirt or your your narrative to inhale to draw. So i i would have to be very careful but i think once i'm i'm connected and disconnected from smoking altogether. It's not going to be an option. Although i can get a fight that looks like a pipe. That's right yeah they do. Have those So we spend fifteen minutes talk about hartman yeah Let's see we talked about saint albums and y'all holly recommended and i'm looking forward to going and may be able to go Because there is an event coming back there in june. But i'll get. I'll get to that in a moment There is an event. And it's this is actually sold out. But i want to mention it because it's Put it it's at brandy station Right there beside the graffiti house. The fleetwood church is a an event to raise money for fleetwood church again and this is for frontline workers Any frontline work or is our first time responder or going to or don't have to pay. So it's a free investigates for those people but the Being the actual investigation for the people that do pay has been sold out. Okay but i still want to mention it because that is a great place to go and you can visit their it any any time and i was actually there. Why you in the past year One time to investigate. And another time. I was there during the day and i still investigating so there are multiple places on that brandy station in culpeper area that has to do with that battlefield rate. There that you can investigate you can go see. You can go see the saint ts. I think in saint peter's church that's in the woods you can actually walk down into the woods. Got a little path and go back and see where the church was because they dismantled the church during the civil war they took the bricks and everything and it wasn't until they knew they knew where it was but it wasn't until the smithsonian went there and the I think there early two thousand and actually found out line of foundation. And it's it's you know you can't miss l. But that's a very active place. Only because when you're walking along the path to get to that church that sits in the middle of the woods on that battlefield. You see the ivy and stuff. That's that is prevalent. And i can't. I'm trying to think of the name of the plant that they would plant when there was a great. And so if you're willing to woodhouse anywhere you see that plant. That's an hmo native and her yeah. I know you know what i'm talking about but yeah name plant behind three sixty I don't i don't remember seeing what's behind the three sixty so i can't. I will say that that. Even even present-day cemeteries will grow it but specifically back they that because it was a peaceful ground cover and it would balloon. Okay so i'll ever but also was a way of showing that there was a great yard and so that plant they'd comes back each year and so around it's everywhere. Yeah so there's only creep. Yeah on may Rtl just done this event There okay yep Flurry that's right and Since they're going to be a central high in google play for mary century good. It's a school that they have Investigated they went there as a private investigation there and he said it was active and then next. This is the first time it's been open to the public. So ray injury run smart you make. It was really excited To be able to offer this locate and he think he had to talk with the people with the Department of recreation there and good sun and get permission to do this and and he said that there are some other places that he hopes to be able to do in the future But that events coming up on may eight I'll prob- i hope. I'm catching everything here. 'cause i just jotted down quick work anymore. on Six if i can bring my right. Six four haunted nights which is run by Lol antilock and and brandon johnson and elizabeth side. They do Investigations all over the state of virginia with twisted paranormal. And they had their own shows they. They produce a lot of things there. They just found a A deal with air fleet. They're gonna be on their network their shows going to be on there the twisted realm So their promotional company now that they put their events under is known as on a night. And they're gonna be at saint albums on June fourth and our friend chris Forgive me for. I'm a butcher. His name chris bell bass or bass palace the war. Yeah i see the The haunted paramedic guy paramount. I tweeted as paranormal and And then her tries to they're going to be The octagon mansard and with bill. And okay. I never been to virginia with field. Jaas is Its way out. West in the western part of us probably four hours. Maybe from richmond Yeah about four yeah. Yeah but docking mansion I think his name is. I know his first name is john I think isn't last name is cushman but that might be right but He runs the octagon mansion. And he is opening. Vince there all the time now which is great. So come researches a paranormal dentist. That's locking them. We're just there last night this past weekend. Right they They've already had a couple of minutes already this year. And so dr gone. Mansion is That's gonna be on the twelfth of june. And so you any of these events you can find if i get the dates wrong or a little bit all. I'm not even gonna try to tell you how much they are. Because that's just too much to try to keep starting I'll just i'll just say that there. It's usually very affordable. And i haven't seen too many events dhabi's these people all these great groups that put these events on they really do try to make it affordable because the money typically goes to these places. But if you if you try to do too much people aren't gonna come because they you know it's a husband and wife or something like that. It's going to cost them over one hundred dollars for the and You know but the question sherry question. Facebook she wanted to know if john Tiny was going to be going to the april event. Say no i did not see his name. Listed in that johnson of the guy that wears the The colombo overcut You know who. I'm here i'm saying a couple of tv goes and things like that. I don't like johnson and johnson. He's a great guy Wrote john will be with us in. September at the michigan You have any. We'll be with us there and we'll we are also we were actually sponsoring that event. Yes we will We're official sponsors The michigan ufo contact in september Put on by rj and arab dear friend Sorry i had an edge deb Duales really explain what i had an inch not forget. Oh yeah right. Okay medication occasion. It's like i'm not talking right now. Yeah the network is a proud sponsor of that event were sponsoring a few other events But like you were talking about john Some of them are not coming through to light however twenty. Twenty two maybe different. We're praying for different but we may be at other events throughout this as well Work improbably with denison ryan and if you other locations so we shall we shall see we wanna make sure people wanna talk and meet us. We're going to make sure we get ourselves out there and allow them to speak to us. I see a light. That that's only because i hate talking to people. People don't understand that you know. I seem like the outgoing personality. But i'm very shy. Actually it kind of frustrates me. She's gonna say well how your that's not and i'm okay able to speak at anyway. What's that i said. They want to just come cat. Yeah heard that there's a free well speak to you. And i don't see the hat. No there's a reason coming to the table for the hat is 'cause they're freaking bounty on the ad They wanna get there. Yeah i saw that. I saw thera- john. And i got and You know. I've never looking for looking for reasons to get Do some road trips. And i've never been to michigan so this might give me a reason to put this on the bucket squared. Us allergy con. I've never been to a ufo. And i've been playing paranormal one. Unity ones irritable. I've never been to a ufo one. Yeah that's funny thing. I've done like the ufo. I've done like the military type conferences stuff with my dad. But this is my first time as a holiday event and when deb and rj invited us and wanted to be a part of it. You know. so i'm excited about it. You ought to go with john. You know should man. I'd say i. Just i'm i'm now you've got mabul. I oh yeah well. There's a lot of other great ufology that are going on to once next. Oh wait wait. Why don't you able think there's one and april That aaron montgomery and our good friend cherry lovelace will be There's there's a few others you really have to look for this type of festivals so excited to be able to go to them. Well if if If i may say The they're all the wreath and there's been a lot of recent things come out about you and i will say so. A lot of the The things that have come out have brought a lot of credibility to the argument that there are ufo's but it's most people most people believe in europe. They don't they don't they're they're now hearing of the all the occurrences that have taken place and that are still taking place and and we're starting to get some history of them so now we can actually see Some patterns here and i turned into something that actually wasn't a year was And let me go. Shameless plug my friend. Jeff watt who puts me was the who handles the virginia paranormal events dot com website. Which is a live better than if they say She put articles and stuff there. And we get into crypto bigfoot and ufo's and and he he if there's a good solid article or or piece of information he puts it on there and not only events that are going on in virginia but elsewhere and He does a great job with the with the website and he lets me handle the book and and so he often tells me what i've done wrong on the facebook style but he does a great job with the the website. Now one the facebook site about This great interview in and y'all can go see it but it was really fascinating stuff. Thirty minutes long today. the the the the guy was very credible and the stories that he had to tell because he was one of he was one of the guys that had to Had the brief. The generals at at these Complexes on what was going on. And so you couldn't just kill them a ufo story. He had to give them. You know evidence and things like that and and the reason right and he and because these generals are you know they don't mess around. I mean they wanna just like anything they want to just the cold hard facts because they gotta make decisions right and so it was his job to get all this and before he brought it to the generals and the various stories that he told freaking amazing. I would just say and There's been a couple of those types of stories that have come out. I'm sure that there are a lot more but Some of them are just They're they're just if if you watch it and still don't believe that there's some form of alien life then than i don't know what i mean. I don't know it's I mean it's true. It's still of like fair normal. I can tell you that go. Spirit exists but if you ultimately just don't believe i i i can't i can't convince you so all i can do. Maybe when talk just appearing on chat down my you know what a. And i and i got to thinking the last time when we were doing the show and we were in the cabin and all the stuff that was going on behind the scenes. I we were trying to. Do you know the noises. We kept hearing and everything like that. You know another reason why we need to get back together inside the cab and then do show Just because the stuff that goes on there all the time even while you try. Yeah that's interesting. You brought up his. You know that went on all the time but We were thinking about that. And you know since. We've been broadcasting from dislocation We've heard some interesting things. That are taking place there the cabin so i will be touching bases ryan and dennis and saying hey guys you know how about spending night blah blah blah Even another online investigation. Maybe you do another one. There's some you know. make sure you're there and kim's there we make sure we do all that that's not a bad idea. John we could do another man. I'm all down for that another Yeah another another event. That is They're going back to pam and part And that's down in Petersburg down there dinwiddie get off ninety five get onto eighty five and it's just a just a few miles in petersburg area Pamphlet park Really great place to investigate Our friend dentist s lock and ryan and his his group with come with researchers appear normal putting in ninety vents. So this is gonna there. I'm just gonna put it out there okay. So that means when doughnut show opted pizza night when i say doughnuts that means in the morning they feed you done us in the morning right I believe it goes from Seven pm to ninety and there are multiple places to investigate on the property. But you're talking about four hundred acres so a lot of places outside And it's gonna be june. So and i know you can bring i i don. I haven't participated in any of the overnight. One they had one at one time. Talked about You know having the part of the camp ground where you can actually go through and and stuff at ten things like that or if I know myself. I'm not going to sleep so if i'm wanna to be able to investigate on night i'm not going to split That i was around here. Known for is their long germany their longevity jervis longevity like her and reich kiss and like A lot of people in virginia do those long investigation. And we're really good at it. A dentist and ryan are good at it. they've been doing it for very long time and other groups around the state The i mentioned something earlier about catherine's furnace up in a shanto valley again. This is your chance to get out explore. See virginia and get. Get your spook on. Why you're doing. It makes sure you're taking that the day before you know before you go that you're right and but she tells you have just put a copy on the back of me strapping anymore. I usually a and then you know. I can't sleep going in because You know i'm i'm to to fired up to do it. So i'm and then when i get there I i remember there was one we were we were at at and it was actually at tamplin and i was there. Pretty late and I think i actually fell asleep during the investigation. We sit down on the floor. You press up yourself. You know very uncomfortable with you but you're so tired that you just ended up you know. Somebody's the they're monitoring their voice just asking questions they just put me right to sleep so the that was not easy peasy that you heard it. Was john snore right. But that's a good point. You do not wanna work yourself up going into you. Want to get worked up while you're into the middle of the investigation. That's going to keep you drive going. That was a that and allow pictures. You says look As me and ryan so there was a Another cooley events That's going on in fort defiance virginia and that's that's a little bit South of harrisonburg South of elkton. Trying to kind of give you the general Area and it's The big bigfoot con so the third and washer con. I think we're going to that Man i his name was right on. The tip of my tongue is a friend of mine and he was telling me about it and she's going to say his name interest. Screw you So i really. I've been to all. I've been to the two previous ones and they've been as other location. i've been to The ohio bigfoot conference which is actually probably up in the top two or three bigfoot competitions. There are put on today when they will be put on. Haven't been able to do in the last year or two Because they you know you go in and like a paranormal con there speakers during the day. And that's what you wanna go him. 'cause you're not gonna go except for the big one is actually at fork park where there's been re lotto reported sightings of bigfoot There's no big foot four to five. Then you know so. There's not gonna be a herb. Is leaving go on a investigation. It's strictly go there and learn about bigfoot Conference so yeah. I mean but again it's a lot of times it's just going and seeing people and and and and meeting people and saying how do people And if you hear some good stories. That's fun i mean. I think the tickets are like ten dollars. I mean it's like literally. I mean it's gonna be it's it's just fun and the last two that i've been playing Have been enjoyable. And i've had i've I have learned some friends and have had actually had a chance to meet some people and become friends with them from from those virginia. Bigfoot conferences The daniel benoit's on here. It is thank you yes so You know it's it's a lower level conference you know you're not gonna have the world renowned speakers show But most of the people that are going to be there speaking have had some experience or or had a personal experience. I know the google no one of the groups. There's two groups that i know of personally of the she watchers They are very are a group of girls and they go out into the woods and they've been doing this for a long time and and they each actually had experiences of seeing bigfoot. And things like that. And you hear their stories and And then the group out of north carolina called the Gosh i can't remember their name now But those guys are really good because there's like five of them and they they go on these You know these these long weekend In the deep woods of north carolina and they've had some experiences. But what's cool. Is they also do a lot of paranormal stuff too. So when they mentioned that off to the side. And i got talking to them about this. You know about their paranormal experiences. And things like that When they learning up the tables for the For the events Lol anton onslaught hundred night said that they were going to be Vendors say they weren't asked to be speakers but they they to be there so just another reason for you to go and and and just have a fun day at at I'll we look on time as that. Say we're down to five minutes brother man. We need to get you plug in now. don't we. well. I've i've just got a couple just really a just got a couple of other Early july Haunting is gonna be put on another been done laura. I know shirt sherry mentioned earlier in the shadows. I saw Right john moores a bed and breakfast and that's in mineral virginia. That's near you know. It's in the west of richmond On the way to charlottesville type of area. Louisiana is that All in bumps. yep no no no. We're in beaverton. Bumpers is fifteen minutes from us. Okay and i is. We are right around the corner from scotstown literally right around the corner. Oh okay that's not that far. Yep no no. We're in a good place. I wanna end on. I've never been scotch down. So that's i need to get over to hang out with this man. That sounds great. Hey i can still cook me. i just can't eat. Most girls and cats are bring the wine in his way. Oh you like why you're like okay. Or do you like a pino breach. just think. it's the sean do you like it. a little dry dry. Well yeah yeah all right. That sounds like a that. Sounds like a plan. Because if you don't ever turn down do anything so well you know what we do this. Why don't we do tickly. If there's food or liquor involved. I will be there. Why don't we. Why don't we think about doing this. Maybe we can do a eight. Jewish sunday We go to Scotch now the home of patrick henry as people like to call him now. Mr big now and We could do a show that night. Maybe talk about it. Hey that's not a bad idea. John we can have a chip down. Shit wow okay. Hey that sounds like your plan. Yeah as far as the event. that's about it. i don't wanna get too far into the year I'm hoping that a lot of these places. I'll just say this. So there's you have the places that do events like once a year or something like that. Were used to those kind of places. They're big time he's in you know But the play thing that do events all the time places like the exchange hotel Cabinet on free sixty That a year. Think that we've been there because when you're not doing the big ones you wanna be able to go into those places and i can remember. There was a time either year about a year or two ago I had a calendar and it was for every weekend. I could've done an investigation somewhere every weekend and Yeah yeah i think the The place there and king george That new he's get back to. And and i know we're running out of time but i was talking with a friend of mine who has a an event place down in and williamsburg and i asked him today that they go to go with But it's not be until stomach so at least you know for years since we've gone into that play So hopefully hopefully we'll get back with john. Thank you so much for being on travelers. Thank you so much for being part of this show as this episode throws create more and more realistic portrait. You please stop by road. Talk radio group. Go by the riff radio. Podcast page or come here. We've your thoughts Sheila what you remember. Spe- her let her. God bless you love you

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Because if you not that we don't let me but you have special requested so we did so and he will be on just a minute. I cannot wait introducing But but as always we talk a little some little samsung going on Okay we had a great weekend I did a little magic and Took cat out for the weekend To give us a little aluna time a little time away. Yes little talk We went to fredericksburg virginia and had a great night at a wonderful hotel Hilton was no until then you know it was holiday in my goodness which hotel we went to. Now that's crazy. I never even thought about that. Like what the hell was the name of the damn root out. I don't remember. I don't remember. It was great hotel. I had a great dinner something or last night. Rather is this sunday night owl. The hampton inn hampton. That's right none of what he said like glue. It was just the ages. was a triple agent. Carol everybody else in joining us. I have no coffee. So i'm going with pepsi tonight so i'm going to drink my coffee and i'm like a little little drill jianqing i'll already i did. I was like nervous for this show. I don't know why. But i it's just great 'cause i love i love our guest. I think he's an incredible brilliant man. So we'll get to talk to him and So today we took a trip to old town fredericksburg and we spoke with. We wanna give a shout out to kristy gorens. Yeah who are now a real estate agent. That's right so we make sure it gets you get mad props for that We talked with her a little bit this weekend. We went antique shopping a little bit. Don't believe the hotel. The hotel was contacted. No no no not at all. It was not one of those. Although future plans are better breakfast right and is better breakfast. The best for that user usually Older buildings that were converted into. Yeah so we're looking at those looking at this. Would we did have a great lunch. He did we did And we spend some time approaches. Berg got some went to an old candy store. Beautiful data walk around because it wasn't too cold who wasn't too hot grease and then on top of that nope bugs. Oh my gosh you have this new book thing. Don't you when mosquitoes are biting the heck out of you and you have to spray your doubt stuff down with stuff that stinks and makes you think for the rest of the night just so that they can bite you anyway. Yeah it's a little frustrating. You know trying to not wanna be outside around right. Let's get some props where we are right. Now up to ryan and dennis ryan jones and dennis lock right here at the three sixty cabin. That's where we are Broadcasting out of tonight we are up in the upper part of the cabinet in the back. Room the cabinet is going through renovations. Yeah actually exited a little bit. Yeah So we're really excited me did. Yeah it's a really excited about the renovations that are taking place and props to denison ryan It's gonna be really great. 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That's the rift podcast network. it's kind of been used for our new website which were excited about so we wanna make sure there's good news on and let's give some shots outs and thank you so it's It's last and i'm not doing any banks. Okay say you should be happy about that. No sound effects. What was she said. Oh damn Let's some shots. You wanna do it. You'll do it okay. Oh no carolina. She said she's enjoying chris. Lead books. I did not get that. No we did. We know we have. We have them online. You know when we can christly is another author guess We will his stuff shown as well thank you for bringing his name up to But we have cyber version of his books. I didn't know that. Yeah so we have. Those one didn't even tell me well. We didn't really get into the books when he was on. But maybe we can the next time he's on. I really would love to talk about his books. I think it'd be great So let's get started so we can get your guests. You can do it. No. i'll come on shadow of. Let's give shout outs tonight. I just like to say. I appreciate joe absolutely every single one of you who tunes in every week live. Thank you Those who support us. We thank you so very much. Hey but a lot of the interaction. Yes and. I want to bring people out. Because i feel like they should be heard. Especially we like Bill freeman here. Is here constantly. Susan schwartz and liz and steve customer not currently Accordion rock Bonnie box who's constantly a supporter of us mark williams We cannot forget our brother. Stephen white who does a magnificent job of promoting this network. He's in jail. Yes hopefully brother steve. Your facebook jail. We're going to correct that problem by the way I happy hello and thank you to moral parvin to share in phillips to sherry and rob our good friends there. We love you guys We actually spent some time with robin sherry a couple of weekends ago To scott you heard show xpress mosel. 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And i'm not gonna waste our time with reading the whole intro. So why is still. Oh no welcome to the show. Well thank you thank you thank you. Thank you so much brother. Thank you for coming back. You you had the most requests of any guest we've had so we had to reach out to you and it's amazing. Absolutely yes sir And that's why we wanted to reach. Yup we put out. I say it all my servants. I love it when that happens. It's amazing we we put it out a couple Couple of weeks ago. Who would you like to see. Come back and you had the most head. Sara like all right. We're doing augie. Yeah bringing on world. Thank you because this is going to be so much fun. Probably illegal kicked out represents procrastinators leaders of tomorrow know. She tried to give me to wear last week augie. But i was like no no mine with mine is sarcasm is how i hello which is true. It's true. yeah yes so. Let's dive into this. 'cause i know before we started talking about ancient alien you wanted to talk about something else and i think this is the time to release the animal from his cage. Which hear your thoughts about. What's going on all your. Let's talk about it. Well you know the connected. I mentioned. Maybe you talk about A little bit about what's going on in the election but mice you had a lot of guests there You know this is kind of like a dead horse and still be beat. Somebody like me. But i think that I think probably most people that is totally sitting in the box. They realized that if law matters if the laws followed there is in fact the way that the president can lose. Most people probably have heard that or understand that. So no i. I kinda hate to just keep going over things that you guys all know. Personally i think i don't care who is in the white house but i'm concerned daffy duck can be divide house so funny it's as long as it would be freedom for the people and the truth will come out and they will be opportunity and we will have a wonderful society. I don't care who's in the white house. Where i think the elections have caused so much hate and animosity and that's all the they're perpetuating is anger. That's why we're doing this show. That's assuming that people were up for the election to those be new hope and it's not it's not producing new hope for anybody instead. It's just anger so which no matter which side you're on the there is a the is probably right more divided than ever have been. Yeah i agree which is not good for our country can no way every empire from within. It's always the way it works and it's gonna be all right in the end We have know we. We getting little pitcher all the shooter. And what did you understand. What's going on behind the curtain. Then you restart the on right because It is just the Fight between democrats and republicans. It's a fight between good and evil and This is going to be all right. Because there's some very powerful entities involved in this and they haven't stuck they head up so anybody knows they're there yet like military intelligence and so on so it's gonna be all right. I'm not worried about it at all. You know all. I'm gonna. I'm gonna jump on your bandwagon in insane. I actually agree with you. I think it's gonna you know. I think it's gonna take some work on our behalf. All all of us. That are part of america the united states and even some of the world to actually get back on track. Put some positive out there. Put that spin on back. Let people know that people still care that this is this is just the beginning of what we can and will do and again it does matter. Who's in the office and then make a change. Knock it well. The president doesn't have a whole lot of authority period. He's just basically the face of the company he doesn't really get outside of anything. Yeah i know. I totally agree. It takes some work on our part back together because You know people. They don't study the more they don't really know what it says in the trough. Know what is going on behind there in the The the the legal system so we're just hearing a lot of people are hearing what they see on tv. Boy oh boy. They're getting the truth at all. So once this only come out and the total massive well the election fraud these coming on. Help people realize you know. This wasn't right and goes well. Who did it. So it's gonna come out and that's going to start bringing the people back together but it is up to us s balloon all because lee has to reach out from both sides to each other and say. Hey wait a minute. I know you didn't know. And i know so. We became enemies for a while but cold turkey on that. But hey let's get together again. Yes that's what the need to do. A deterrent for that is not there yet because people don't understand when they do i think that's what probably will happen It must happen. I you know i again. I agree with you because you know we as a collective whole yes have been damaged. I mean let's look at the facts is true and it's not just again here. I'd say it's all through the world but now we those who are that seemed from your point. Audible wet cat are discussing. Is there's a middle and we can heal. We can help. But it's gonna take a little chip at a time. It's kind of like that. Hart show on. You gotta chip that. Show away to get to the to the wonderful candida. Oh my goodness here you go. You gotta thing about mexico but that's out of the question. Yeah i think some of us may have to actually do something that'd be main order dunk for a while like maybe We lost a friend over. That would be something like that. He may have to go back and say hey friend. i'm sorry about. i'm sorry. I called you idiot. Because i didn't really understand either. So hey let's get together again. Yes personal other. People's gonna disagree with you. That doesn't mean he can't be friends if he'd disagree about something. i think. that's so ridiculous above agree with you but you know the the funny part is is that what took place no. That's a sensitive subject. Still right now is he said. She said she agreed with this. And that person agree with that and blah blah who cares. It's a personal opinion. In this is i'm gonna say this real quick hollering people tolerance but opinions and sometimes maybe politics should not be discussed. Maybe should be kept to yourself because we see what happens when religion or politics talking talked talking. You'll talked in the evening. It's only when you've got somebody that is sensitive. It doesn't distinguish the difference between you giving your opinion. And they don't understand what they're saying because your opinion doesn't agree with them. Okay instead of doing fading and having a one on one debate with you about you know this is why i believe that you know and then having them respond to that and being just a a conversation biggest so blown out of proportion and it gets the it upset and then they're standing and it's like there's no need for. It's a different opinion if you take it in accepted. Don't accept it. That's okay no you don't have let me give you an idea to why i do. It's going to be okay. it's gonna be good it is. I have been looking into the time. I have created into. The future is good things in left on the mastermind sessions that they do base creates mastermind of people together. And you just science the future place it in the future the way we want it to be and then we go back and forth and travel up to that thing every day and be paved the road for it and this is extremely powerful. We have to sign future. The way we born and so far it has happened. Everybody and they don't expect the problem of the day after elections but we had we have to sign peace into i. Guess what we had peace contrary to most people expected and Just one of the small things i've been able to do. They do incredible things. him there. i would love for people to join us they want to and when you look into the future signing before you have to live it and then create that as a paved road to do whatever we can to make happen and the thing about it is that really in a tree aided universe so that might create a universe is created by our. They're worn around us quantum physics. It's very clear on this We didn't even computer program. In fact let me go on. But there is a physicist named james gates. He says he's in his sixties now and he spent his whole life investigating quantum physics and the universe. Supposed to go deep into the equation. That explains the fabric of space. We find computer. Language like hornets representing once mc euros binary. Yeah yeah and diving tells me. There's there is a structured entity kind of like a computer program and the question is who is creating the program or better yet not to computer so now we know that the have the capacity to create the reality around us that you'd want in a small how most people realize that they don't little bit about positive thinking and doing the right thing so on drugs and violence is august. Think about what you have in your life if success peas and good health is all you care about that so we understand the car. Except now yeah. You're totally believe it is so i'm vigil tape putting lottery. Yeah they believe all it is very powerful. It is must believe that it is docked. Raise going to be that way. So i am not all my time. It's gonna be good. I think we're point you. And i are hidden in the same direction Because we we've got goals now we. We have a direction for the network and for ourselves. We're pushing through where we're not paying attention to the negative and the negative. That does come our way on. We sit down and we talk about now. Unlike we just we used to blow it off or just go Or kind of keep Our opinion to ourselves but now cat neier. We open up. We discussed things now. pa political relationship Those around us our friends her. An eye opening up in pushing forward and we. We're taking people with us. So i think we're we're on board with your doggy We we got somebody coming out of the sheriff says or having them say you hurt my feelings but yet if you try to explain your feelings you get shutdown. Aren't allowed to have feelings and then it's just shut down mood. It's so hard because you just wanna share common ground by get shut down and shut out. We should be able to be civil with one another and appreciate one another thoughts and feeling And learn from them right. If you're gonna just talk then you're not learning a dang thing ever if you're not listening you're not learning that's right Albert eyesight said something about that. Exactly better this. Yeah because then you learn. You're the one talking all the time. You just talk from memory right. That can't no no impotence. Ever love that Carol hernandez says set your intention intentions intent. Yes yes absolutely Because intent has such a strong energy and anybody knows anything about magic. Magic is energy energy as magic intent. Yes energy science. Yeah and then we got another kind of hearing the soup. Because we're gonna say yeah. I can't happen okay. No the word. But what use the concept hard to implement the concept of intention into your existence. That is a little bit more complex issue because intent is not just thinking of the word. It is more to it than that you to do something to have to visualize the fire out tom of what you want to accomplish you create and that you feel that with a ocean love and all the other things of life you gotta have that motivation and action towards the Jimmy Wants to know if you believe in the significance of repeating numbers since mentioned finery who i could say about the biology as lonely. Mr no. there's something to you right. If they don't be honest repeating them assure what it would actually do. But if they mean something to your subconscious mind then sircar just with the conscious mind and travel audience and you create something that represented byles phone. Numbers are youth. They i know alive. Repeating number know if while and playing cars if it's while i'm driving down the road and it's just died after sign with the same number You know you go to the store and your your number steaks and your Your exact mon is six dollars and sixty right You know you just you. Just i look it up. I'm say i checked to see if there if that number for some reason could pertain. What is going on. I know. I wanna see some about that because a lot of this. She's on that number six six. Some people misunderstand the meeting of course. A lot of people are xuming. It's the number of the beast but in numerology means something completely different because it's a number it has representation. So i just wanna make sure if that's nothing to do with evil demons or death and very powerful though because i remember stars i'd richard hoagland told on an art bell show long time ago. He said he went to the store. Bought something just small little thing people six dollars and sixty six. And he's he's he's said that i didn't. I didn't wanna pay that so he needs extra. The concert picked up. Something added to became a different number. He did great to pay six sixty six. Yeah but in that is he not superstar is he. Not changing the destiny of what that deficit can be see. We have the ability to change would could be. That was a perfect example. Yup and how. Many people still get freaked out by friday the thirteenth for each. You know the thing is an omen or some expert on friday. The thirteen work. Now let's go back and let's look at something real quick augie We were talking. We were gonna jump into ancient aliens and all that. But what about ancient civilizations that may have recycled because of what we're what we've experienced we now encountering those causing effects of what those civilizations may have gone through it. Well there is perfect place in quantum field from ancient civilisation aids. Things that happened then when we talking. Hey how are we actually talking. Let's say i'd be talking about years ago because if you had to say right now that'd be like us and everything collapsed and shutdown and everything was done away with South from now they'd probably be very little standing five hundred dollars on there will be no handle structures. Don't have in ten years. They would be no trace whatsoever this civilisation except for what was built from stone. Yes so yes. We can see that they have ancient civilization. They take allergies. We have no clue what you're lift hundred and ten tonnes stones twenty feet up and put them into a wall. We don't do that. So we don technologies back then that His way now we could say that probably could be an alien technology like came here. Supervise everything you know like Three hundred ninety nine thousand years with the on. Anarchy fake clash splash in the arabian sea shore and may two six days to build the first cap the leader he looked at said it was good and of course you again the bible you find the exact same or that it says in samaria top but he said so you want to plagiarize but Relevant good point waking up for a solid week every morning at three thirty three. Am and seeing one one one one throughout the day all week has been interesting. That'd worn out and jimmy says the the my invitation through a portal to another dimension. There are Just totally embarrassed. There is it. Looks like they just put down their tools and everything and walked away and it appears to me. When i think i've seen that they just walked to a higher vibration becomes the already got to the point where they could not international the veil and they just decided that they wanted a better existence state with that. Yeah that was awesome. I think that's very likely but then again destroyed then destroyed that would have also reflected itself in the way that would have been or the tools may have been busted or some form of destruction But in some of those especially in south america they were in the villages. There were no destruction searches anywhere. It was just. They disappeared and people hypothesized that they can that the Maybe they weren't out and they couldn't plant anymore and maybe the animals dried up because they over hunted So they had to move. Yeah they had to move because of that but where did they go Everything is possible. I suppose it's hard to say. Now i wanna. I just want to reflect on something because we were just talking about it augie and we look at the paranormal world for second and look at what we just talked about impair noma we talk about residual energy correct. We talked about intelligent and residual there's residual energy left here residual energy there. Now i offers it. Check your opinion. Because i think you were talking about it. Let's define is there. And could there be a possibility of residual energy of those civilizations or cultures now affecting our government now as residual energy. I would think that's very possible. In fact their stories on the server on presidents that has been the white in the white house in the oval office and the guards outside could hear them talking and arguing with someone and talking and he knocked on the door so eighty or something was wrong so he Door that up and the dress their old man bush did there was one incident. And there's also talk now about this is happening to trump. They are talking while they're long standing in the living room. And there's nobody around they just kinda doing comes open then they look awkward or you go back to the decks desk. Saw could be some more. They're they're talking to but to guard cannot see it. I want to support that mean. Is there a possibility that he's just on an earphone. Though it is a possibilities on the ear phone but the what they're discussing Was not based off of what that was going up. But that's a good point. 'cause i'm wanting to leave something else when you were saying that is let's go back to the fundamentals of this country and what we know about what took place with george washington and i'm going to bring this full score. Y'all yeah no no pun intended. Maybe was But the way washington eat disease. Washington disease washington was created was conversation with an entity in the woods. Yeah green or the green or so. We're gonna talk and other people did see it. It wasn't just him now. List move forward and let's talk about what was just talking. About what if it's not residual energy would if there's intelligent energy that's been left and it's still in that white house and communicating like a president who from the past or the future. Oh look handle. I mean the stamps and stuff in the white house to arm leaning more towards that. Jimmy says it's common knowledge is soundly have been have been harnessed to manipulate structures absolutely and i don well. There are actually a wonderful wonderful. Founding fathers sitting down to sign the declaration of independence was a lot of contention. They were arguing. They couldn't really agree on and they were in a zoo which was a balcony up above there a long long mall and they were got into early stars. You get dusk. This don't actually graduates and there was this person that showed up on the ballot and he walked towards the veiling east. Dude there to talk to them. I said and. I don't think actually quote this because he's already said what you are about to do. You must do your hanim asleep otherwise you will fail. And then he walked back into the shadows out there and Guys he ran up the stairs that were nobody ups there. There are several rooms that he looked at everyone. Nobody upstairs on the second floor. Absolutely yeah could have been resilient intelligence spirit about a bit annealing all star wars visitation. Jimmy says that. Ancient alien ben involved in our politics since george washington was elected. Are there just very largely. And roberts is ancient. Aliens live under under antarctica. I thought that was a military base under antarctica. They form three ships. Don't there and some of them there have of this Places phone on their twelve foot tall. And you know really do lookin' maple i suppose but there there i'm gonna say i plead the fifth. 'cause i don't think i'm allowed to talk about that. Somewhat plead the fifth on that one. I don't what to talk about with from what dad told me what i'm not so i'd rather play it safe and go. You haven't signed anything then. You're not obligated to withhold any information. Yup true i don't understand that. I mean i don't i don't know what position would put us in. If i talked about it is that makes sense. He thinks men in black. And i am saying anything about i'm just telling but well no i. I knew i've talked about a few things in all now. All you talked about it now. I can talk a little bit about it. That he said it first. And i know i can say i can confirm that is a military base that was in antarctica that was created during world war. Two asa that. And that's all i can say about that that i there are other things that took place. There was rushing their german with german. And they're only with. Hitler was all that they did But i i also. We're talking about the future and things going on. I would invite people to come and visit us at the mastermind connection because We're doing some incredible things. They're just Same thing email is throughout the email address. While i'm out here that the astor mind connection at g mail dot com the master. My connection g mail dot com. And we do. I don't sunday at two o'clock in the afternoon. East coast time and we Are we done some really really incredible things which should not have happened according to the laws of physics so it's a conscious collective. yeah kind. Recollect you mind so that was having fun with it and we're creating great things so join us if you like to all of you out there. Hey think that's a great invitation. It is right there. Yeah on the part of the positive in the future. You hitler to learn how forever. That's why he was obsessed with the paranormal and The and and that's and that's why he was a spiritualist. He wanted to find the the What did that. Well they only want to be with all the spurs you. Yeah he thought he had all the spiritual items in the world that he can become immortal and become the overall emperor human. Yeah he wanted to find the found a use. You wanted to find the the challenge. They he wanted to find the The other one. The all i can think is indian chip puts the destiny of spear right tip of that but now Yeah so now that we've looked at that. We we know that as a possibility of our government being affected by residual or intelligent energy. Okay and augie. We we've talked about past civilizations opening that up and their affect now. Let's let's talk about something before going break as what about those cultures affecting air prison culture as we the citizens not just the government. I mean could that negative way of life actually be affecting us look at the mayans day were ruthless culture. Could happy can we be absorbing that back see. Here's the deal though culture that for because they something gave him the belief you know That the blood and sacrifice swing to give him twenty something that that something you. I don't say in a on the influence i don't think they are the influence of our society. I think I wanna go out on a little bit further than i probably Otherwise and say that. The the government of the united states has become a subsidiary of receiving in germany and Because we know that they've been studying the The nazi Teaching manuals political and technological and many others. They have them and they imported about they say a hundred and sixty some three thousand three One thousand six hundred is telling us but they were three thousand. Two hundred dollars came over on the operation paper quip those german scientists. Same they real now saw a. Because i think we'll sit you think that's where the influence come from but daddy's changing now a senior jamie. They're manipulating the idea to maybe work on a better culture Who who is manipulating do you know. Do you think they're manipulating. The nazi thought the socialist bought into something new to create something better for the future for mankind. I think there's been some work on that and neither cares has it has. But it hasn't flurries yup and i think that is about to happen here in the next few months That there will be change because in around when everybody running everybody finds out that the cia was the one of those behind the computer program that stole election then people's not gonna like much Wasn't a cia working for trump. no they didn't work with trump. they never have been very friendly to trump so another misconception from the media or from the from the. I don't even want to say the social. Yeah yeah social network. Yeah okay so don't let them all works. I don't know. I'm i don't really care so much about that. Because he's our work itself out right. They don't need my help or anything like this show. Ancient alien blew my mind years ago. Many people believe aliens or demons to. That's pretty wild. That's religion for any thoughts on the battle of la on the what the battle of la Well it's obviously was something up there that They were shooting up and it fell in the ocean and They went after it. I'm sure they whatever it was. It's somewhere away alone. Time go by the government and whatever they learn from it. I imagine just probably learn the same thing every time they shoot down another. Uso they find out what's inside of it rebuild it back. Engineers adds it to the stock of what we already have. The black friday said flying flying discs flying triangles. They are very advanced. So it's just like in nineteen eighty eight. I think it was the head of the start work. She said that whatever you can imagine. We already know how to do if you have seized track. We know how to do it. That was professor von braun. I know exactly that was. It said that that was bombed bra. Okay what asshole took the personal talking about rene cody's says oh my goodness augie a love this carol alternative. Since i've never heard about the battle of la look it up there very interesting shot at something. We're shooting at something in it was a. They used a lot of artillery shooting at the something and it never came down overcame. Well that we that we are not bad but like all he said you know he you know pretty surely it. It seemed like it wasn't hitting it. None of the artillery was actually hitting what they were what they were seeing Boggy i mean until you were seeing something. If they're taking the time to to fire that much artillery at it six or seven floodlights on it. So i'm sure they could I heard both those the jury's out on that something that it didn't come on. I know the they thought they saw came down so i'm not really sure what happened right Sherry says just. Don't listen to boots for two hours. 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And i you know i you know either talking about the paranormal and some of the paranormal is actually normally just that we don't know it right. Okay and yeah. And i you know. I grew up in europe after the second world war and i have cumulated some information about to fly the nazi flying disc that it really is much out there. There's very little about those out. There you find. But i have some information if you wanna talk about it. Yeah let's talk about because that's part of aging it's still surpasses still about the Today's technology yeah. Let's talk about the flying bell okay. well first of all they eat is basically even at the united states is proven that they did exist because there have there does have the documents on some of it is just that i've seen some morals thrown over in europe and of course they show up in german so americans don't really know what to do with that now. This courtship can translate some of the jervis. They had their own ross route. Nine hundred eighty six. Yeah there was just came out of this guy and he landed donald and they were able to take that thing then try to back into their but they already had a lot of information because of in nineteen seventeen. There was a lady. They maria all tissues some information from an alien civilizations so for all the channel and she was basically educated. Well she basic grammar school but that was had no college education. She started formulas right and complex structures of flying machines. And she didn't know what she did. She just wrote it down and then they took that someone else took short term a military officer and they took it and they started experimenting with it so they have experimented with a drone airplanes in germany. Since probably about nine hundred twenty right and when you came to nineteen thirty six that was kind of the crown jewel that they were able to get them vegetable story together when they follow bad crash flying disc from europe. Where gravity yeah they they. I don't know where that was from but absolutely in nineteen thirty nine. That's the first prong the flying They call them harvey one flu. That's the one that had the mercury engine and it was no slow too often. German air force. It was flown by the to society and the black sun they were together for for a and some of this i. Actually when i grew up i saw use paper. Arctic goes right after the second world war. I started reading newspapers age of cities. So i could brow. Okay it worth the comics all right about four years old. I read a lot of other goofy stuff so I saw on two cases. That i still remember i saw articles of is the thrum german. They were They were prisoners of war. That came back from germany. Norwegian prisoners were came back and they said y'all we saw those things they flew around them and there were several. Oh than testified. got In these two different articles so we know the existed is johnson. So jimmy says that the german. Y'all get your war. Scientists were very close to reverse engineering a ufo weapons. Oh oh absolutely yeah. I would say they had German they had the space program. They the first rocket that made it up into space that houston pedic fuel and that both nineteen thirty nine also and i have seen a picture that came from germany and it show the first picture taking some actually not orbit so much because the space struggle in iraq and here they go up straight from little bit and then they go and forty five degree angle up. Kind of a curve off to. Germans didn't do that. They didn't understand that they say straight up and when they do that the gravity is not able to convert itself to a falling force so it came straight home. They did take a picture for my then. You could see a black and white picture over there slightly curved or rice. I taken in nineteen thirty nine the germans so we know you know they did this. And then of course they The of course they developed as eagle flying bomb and the tune ballistic missiles. That came later that was never actually used a they had them right and Now army i was interviewing Of my tv show to itself. That i did for six years. I interviewed windows. Stevens and colonel stevenson. He said that The germans they had a space program and they had the hard to do and the to and the city and he didn't quite know about the hundred before but how the do one was very fast and it could do about twelve thousand miles per hour. Damn being in the atmosphere right now. We know the space show was doing about seventeen thousand miles per hour right. That's in lower but exactly and yeah and That's the one that through the first time in nineteen thirty lawn Thirty nine. I'm sorry They had Two prototypes that. If i did the first monthly pay from their on may two prototype and the second one. Quick question made that's bashed and from thrown. They can find any states that being the case to to harm to they advanced Put more technology into its and that flew the first time in nineteen forty two thousand twenty six meters seventy six in her. Why and he's had a crew nine nine people on it. It was super supersonic and could go to thirteen thousand. It said thirteen thousand and forty miles an hour that they have clogged. I'm not so sure about the number thirteen thousand. So right and god diet is really special. Stock specially back then. Oh that's not done for you. She she's heard people have seen. Ufo's with the logo usa on it. Yeah have you originally from creatures. Here's your yeah and she wants to know. I'm sorry in different types of alien you know that. Live among like re reptilian. All absolutely there are alien species here walking us today and we will never know the difference because they just like. Oh this is opening diversity. We talk about especially the pleading race. There are on the alberici bollard six out just seven so tall and they are just like us. They use hoops like they look like us. And in fact. I i know one. That was you dropped off. Here's a little newborn baby and more or less just a little kid and you go to by a military family and jerry wills. He is one of the augie. We're we're in the pleading universe now. Are we correct. In what universe. We are in the palladian universe now as we speak right now the transformation and the shifting shift of to the palladium universe. I believe we are probably on the same vibration. Yes that's right absolutely you know We got stewart was a couple more things coming out of facebook. Lamb says realized tech. They put out there truly a hundred years plus ahead of what they're showing the public. Oh yeah and remember. Cell phones were used in the sixties indefinitely probably earlier. Okay i mean you remember came out with the technology for cell phone. Thank you. I was getting ready to say something about that because augie was talking about the lady in germany. You're talking about this. we're talking about tesla. Let's look at the another ironic thing back in the early. Nineteen hundreds nineteen twelve to nineteen twenty. We had this this communication thing going on. We had the young lady there. We had tesla we had. Who else edgar casey. All of these people who are receiving messages that we just created it in over five hundred volumes of what he was captured. Tesla had this would work. That can change the world and they took it from him We had this receiving message. You received messages about what bill was stupid. Well yeah well. Same thing with our during the bill but how many things in the world today is from paranoia experiments almost everything so this is the on rendre. What bringing to if it wasn't for if it wasn't for paranormal research we wouldn't have if it wasn't for paranormal research. We wouldn't have the telephone if it wasn't prepared. Animal research would have the computer. How ironic howley rock. So we had all that yeah nation. They create a harmless things. Remember when when tesla was coming up with radio waves and researching radio radio waves. He was receiving transmission. He believed that it was for millions that he was picking these because there were no there. Were no radio waves going else. Some some us yet. I mean this was just brand. New technology were absolutely actually you. No you go ahead okay. Yeah i just did a An hour extra on the tesla spirit radio and the telephone the Dimensional telephone that they are creating at the university of arizona. The tesla spirit radio dot was just to simulate xavier device created by tesla in nineteen worn. I believe it was and he said. I was alone in my laboratory and i turned radio on and i could hear voice talking and it scared me right. So he knowing. Nineteen one wants to many radio stations. All the first commercial radio station showed up. I think in the lease like was nineteen thirty one or nineteen twenty nine or something like that. They realize radio for experimental purposes at universities. Don't so long before. But not in nineteen horn back. There were no radio radios. Hardly out there. Catholics believed it was alien but edison. He took on the research because he believed that it would spiritual where he stole. He stole to fill. He started researching it. I'm trying to prove that. There were goats. replicate. What has what happened tackling yup yup and right now we want to make sure that people listening in tuning in right now understand. There is two different boxes most people in the paranormal Understand the edison box. They're like asthma. I hate to tell you and you can go on youtube and you can find the i talk about this. Edison two plans from tusla. He stole the tesla. book's idea. tesla created the box. I while there's been working with him when he was working on. That's misconception to tesla creative. After they got right they got together. That's how edison found out about the test in created yet. It's inbox jimmy. Same same marconi. Over in italy. Marconi was stolen radio from texas from tesla. Yep but you know what did all the time he didn't he didn't he gets he wanted to give 'em techonology to the people if he thought if it made the world a better place than give it to jeff. Absolutely absolutely okay. We've got more coming out of facebook The ufo military base in nevada. What's what's your opinion on on works now in nevada. The military base. I'm guessing area fifty one that s four. I'm sure they live in the rail. I'm hearing that most of the equipment for food out of Ships for food out of area fifty one to another one don't base but then again i don't believe that i think they have so much in that that they're going to use the facility for something. They're still there. S for what he that s four s five and fifty four and i agree And i was just support that support jimmy and support avi that i know for a fact that fifty one has high started because of von braun and because General may that's how fifty one came about because of the experimental ideas that was taken as aubrey brought about the nazis. Who came to america they had to they went from pats rights airforce base patterson airforce base rather sorry to nevada to test this people think white plains attesting for just the air force he was not long gone and lemay take this area specifically to put on their black projects. I knew that because my father was a part of however i'm not su- shoot. Okay i'm gonna go and say this. We follow science science fiction. You've seen society follow science fiction in science fiction even from the seventies and eighties. And i can tell you now. I would not be surprised in the next ten years if we don't see a fully mechanized suit of armor a mecca. If we don't already have it. I mean like i am in on a bigger scale Some people understand what say mechanized-armor or mecca. This is a. This is a suit. It's like a walking take out And i think we're gonna see that from this technology I we already. I'm gonna go back real quick And talk about nazi bill. Real quick Because i'm glad you brought it up. They if for those of us who are really into quantum physics and quantum science understanding. They also believe that the nazi bill had the ability based on quantum understandings to actually time trouble. And that's why it's still spotted today. Yeah can tend to use use a time travel device because the glock here on the bell. That's was put together a long. The lines of the channeling that money owed tissues gave them as well. That's what they found in that Crashed flying saucer on balladeer right. He created all that and there. There was just a very hard metal flying saucer that they were not able to to do kate but it was layers. Kinda like chambers field would event. Berkeley was rotating in one direction. That the all all layer amid the tally labels rotating in the opposite direction. And they were a feel there. Were magnets in the rotating. Yeah all of this chamber bill. Yeah where that just keeps it it. Would it would bounce off the work of the it's creating its own gravity short bounce earth gravity so it can actually do what they wanted to do whenever we all do. There are trying to do this. And i'm not sure how successful that being because they said that. Yes we we were able to get the effect but I think they run out of money before they could go very far with it. So it's just there but the concept of that being a energy device has been proven absolutely We got more coming out of facebook. But i'm gonna make more things since we're talking about nazis and nazi technology. Ufo's let's talk about the foo fighters. Okay this this is a squadron of high tech space or don't know if it space or ero if you will But back at the end of the war the war a pilot saw a fleet of these fighters flying through the mountains and issue happens at the spiders. Look exactly like one of the nazis. I jet assault fighters so updating would the technology. We're seeing a crossing technology. I just want to bring that to the air Base looks about to open their on. Were von braun was locked into ancient aliens as well. He knew too much rain as always turns into science back and then she says i can't go into details but a friend sister worked at area fifty one and unfortunately witnessed something. She wasn't supposed to and got a message out to her sister that she was going to be disappearing. You've never been heard from again. She had high security clearance and wasn't supposed to see what she did for. Jimmy real reasons secret service. Stay with president till they die is so one doesn't tell about the real ufo alien tax and stuff. We have to really think the president's member just regular it's not just okay. I'm about to run my mouth on something. I'll just say you know. These people talk about men in black and de data. There's a reason why these presidents have this unique special secret service gathering around them. Twenty four seven. That's all i'll say about that. One argue you can add to it. Well see good. Service was also different other occasions when things went bad so off. Trump doesn't trust them. He hire his own to try the lifeguard around. They are around all the time and they are the studies dealing with secret service but the people around trump. They are his private bodyguards. Right and say that's correct. A lot of people don't know about that either which is why they're the pro. Why they're worried that he won't step down because the white house is. Yeah no and the noticing that very few people know about that even Eisenhower said that Right about Months before the end of the second world war he said we can lose this war because there was one incident where They were eight hundred allied bombers. That's left england and flew over germany. Drop their ball is one night but the germans they knew they were coming and they had serving the boot twos that came up behind them and they used weapon that is called the press drug to it is a direction of impulse and they fired at they fired at the the allied bars and they destroyed the electric system in the airplanes and everything quick so they ended up crashing over germany on their allied bombers. They lost a third of them. Anthony lowest up. If you're day proper you definitely want a car free computer because if it goes down the way they think is going to go down this sudden flare Working as a huge emp and wiping out all our computer set. Your car will head and useless. My until it'll be something we create or the the world just some sabotage anarchist. We'll just hit this place. Emp over what we figured. No i'm don. We're all their rage to protect themselves for the yes you can. You have a A ferret cage in. The house is called the microwave. And i have a i. Don't use the microwave because it destroys the food but the microwave is sitting. And he's got a spare computer in walkie talkies and a bunch of batteries in it so if anything goes ships are up and running. You got locker room off. Well i tell you what we have something. Facebook for argument have a phone call. We have some of those like to ask a question. Would you like me to bring him on. Sure all right. Let's do this. Let's see here area code nine one zero. Welcome to the orion with cat the hitman and all lost. What question do you have tonight. Hey i just wanted to ask your guest. What advice he had about What we can do against the lizard people. Oh good one. What kind of people the lizard people you know. Not the reptilians. Wendy williams okay. I actually the guest term for it is very appropriate Because there is some of the people on earth that has more of chilean dna than others and they are the ones that because come down to the bloodlines from the archaeology way. Down to the people who live today and may keep track of each other and they help each other. that's why every president of the united states except one has been related to each other. That's how they keep things together and they keep control now to to do with them. I don't worry about it right now. Eighty taken care of as we speak it. Sounds like you might be one of them with how you're speaking because if you weren't one of them would be stressing how important this is very important and it will happen because they have incriminated themselves so bad that when the people find out they're going to turn on them. This is true. I think my neighbors one of them. And i've been plotting to To have him arrested sometime in like public display and make sure that everyone knows he's a lizard person and what's the yellow goo and the plastic bags attached to the chest four. Oh that's good question. I haven't seen that. 'cause i've seen walking around and it has like this is yellow goo and a plastic bag around their chest and like i don't know if that's like some kind of weird like fluid detachment thing or Yeah well hurting event is gonna take my prostate so i i don't know if that's true or not. Oh wow. i don't worry about that anymore. It's gonna be alright gonna be alright. Okay Just one thing and it's just. Have you ever heard about the biological airplanes biological airplanes giving your or. They're made out of like me. No no they're basically cloned animals but they're designed like airplanes of like seven forty seven or like little cessnas. I guess but they're they're basically made out of meat and they run off of Photosynthesis you should check it out. It's pretty neat. Organic farscape farscape. Yeah anyway 'cause i guess let's blow about sex. Okay bye all right. Thank you call. We appreciate you calling in tonight. All right right from Do you believe a planet they call ni- brew exists behind the side and i'd be are well. Niebuhr is not a planet. It is a planetary system that rotates how at brown dwarf small star and that is why he leaving the binary system. That's a little brown. Dwarf goes around the system between the third and the fourth planet actually outside march for the planet And all the way out outside the cloudy back in again and this rotate two houses circuit on thirty six hundred sixty or fifty years in order to make it around the circle and it is on his way now. So yes the the concept of either israel there's some area and tablets talk about it and is ancient history in writing and as well as in nineteen eighty seven or eighty nine. I saw to the or four Newspaper articles i have a copy of them stating that Telescopes had discovered a very large planetary planet at the age of the solar system. Right that he had not known about before. That's the one that is coming back in. Okay okay i get it now. I was kinda i was getting off track and i was like i'm in. I got you okay. Jimmy said lift. Why do we only see the same side of the moon. Is it by design or coincidence. No that's no coincidence that's Do back the moody is because the man is a Because the space station it is there to monitor or there was a time before them. That agent is riding from india. Talk about in fact. They talked about of tune moods and one blue collar and the other one was quite like this one. Now this is tall and it's is ball jd. So that there's more math on the on the side of way from So it is moving around. It has a The more mass on the outside so that the centrifugal floors bring that side away from mass all the time so and also the the whole inside of it is not. The center is more towards us. So there's more mass on the other side so it will he actually in law both a little bit. You can see about Acid go through the moment. You can see Slightly behind it at times about four degrees or so on the edge there are. Let's say on the fifteenth on. You can see something on the thirty two. See five degrees frederick behind then disappears again here to the moon so it wobbles but it is because the the home side and also it is damaged some so that it has more laughs on the outside as a c. Already impossible orbit. This moon is in and That's mood is just plain simple. Not supposed to be there some. The scientists rented because it has a perfectly round barbeque. And it's supposed to have that. It's against several million chance. Society could get that or and they actually have been calculating the moons around jupiter correct watching the moons around jupiter. Accolate that that that how they should not be absolutely perfect orbit as far as our moon. Yeah well that's these are smaller than this. One is too big to be rich. I we we know our size of the moon. We know the weight of the moon because we got moon rocks and we measured it. Sees folks are slightly less than what rox on this plan would be. And how fast is going because of that be no my centrifugal force it is creating being slung away from earth. If you feel all this into a computer it doesn't come out. That byrne desert is almost impossible and the moon is it should be about two times further out away from earth orbit perfect around if it was solid but if the moon is hall people make perfect sense for you to be where it is. Jimmy seems to think that inhabited in an internal in establishment. Yes absolutely because there has been article the years robot not about the moon in their talk about observations of things that is happening on the moon dating back to the late seventeen hundreds because they when they discovered the telescope. One of the first things they did was to aim at the moment they saw flashes of light up there and The nineteen fifties. They saw him and eleven. I think it was eleven mile long. Reach on the move between two crater edges and it was clear you could see the shadow coming off of the east bridge and that later they could see got dismantle. It wasn't there anymore. Right pitchers fact. I got the patriots shareholders. Don't i have pictures. Also green vegetation on the mode. So i if if you go to the websites throw it cast team. I'll thought dot com broadcast team. Alpha dot com. Scroll down into the the videos. You'll find something called. The teachers in there is been just beautiful pictures and artifacts and things on the mood factors feature and mass of photo all humanoid standing on the surface. I remember that picture. Yeah and also you can do same thing with the mars pictures that also gets very interesting. There's one fixture there. That came back intercepted before nasa the whole the little grey standing about twenty feet away from the rover standing out. There just got don't need to breathe. Yeah that's more facebook for you. Came out she says skull and bones found that interesting. So many presidents were involved in that secret society fiscal society. Yup that's when they do things that they don't want anybody young to know about so that others can control them because he's a breakaway things that they probably shouldn't have done could be just you know expose so they don't want that and they will always follow the directives of the mass of the masters the majestic twelve Dolphins would like to know what testimony of an alien abduction. You find back saul who. That's a good question. probably Quite a few of them. I'm not so sure exactly what to think about. I think there's some people on this go that house being abducted because they have chips in the they have a little things in. They're stuck behind the air or on the have in the brain or they play some different places and these have been taken out and they find that they are partially organic as metallic. So there's really goofy structure. These small chips were these probes that they find somebody say they have spent to take an x ray or your hands law peach and find that they have something. Jimmy things that it was. It was called here to maintain a watch pos to monitor us for. Maybe we had moon that. I don if something happened to then. An artificial moon was the only way to save the civilization. Oh no i think it's more like it's a spaceship or there is Millions of people inside of it and it's their home and they are here for their own purposes as well as observing us and they've been there for about twelve thousand five hundred years before that the papers writings coming out of india. They work on mood right. So perhaps actually there is a defense to the moon or to the earth because we are such a young civilization that defense perhaps came from this location and air defensive outer defence. Space defense is coming from these individuals at the thought. I'm just what it up there. Yeah yeah then you have people saying oh but afraid they're gonna come and take over the planet. Well if they wanted to take over the planet. They wouldn't wait too now. they would've done it a hundred years ago. There would be no opposition whatsoever. Wouldn't even have to step on the planet to do it. I mean come on come on. Don't be stupid it's not gonna be a bad. We ought to be here. Let them do it to themselves. You know yeah they wouldn't. They wouldn't wait till now. Have particle beam weapons in space. Yeah they were on a while ago. Maybe aliens have a conscious thought. No seriously doubted. Do alterations made okay. We're heading for that aren't we. We're rocking it. I know where she's going with this Please tell me you're going there. Oh yeah all the buckle up this is going to get done well. I was just talking. I was talking to him about you. Know the the bible right survival said that man was created. In god's image five thousand years ago science tells us that men was existing wave before five thousand years ago however science also tells us that are h. Negative blood just appeared. Five thousand years ago. I find any Have footprints in stone in texas studying rock. That has been there for about three hundred million years that was human footprint. So they've been here for a while exactly right. So but if you think rh negatives bled appeared five thousand years ago at the same time as the bible says god was created Progress creating man in his image but then the by laws is and believe the garden there are other people then Let's just talk for a little bit. Yes that's visit on just for a moment. Question is where does the word god come from right. The word god throng originates in the old sumerian. Actually before the samarium with crm hockey language you go off means great leaders right so glenn the great leader wanted to well as some histories of this and in fact if you want to read the whole history i would really happen. How earth and mankind was created wrote. Very expensive died in one of my books and you can read it there so no no caroline nothing disappeared. It appeared before five thousand years ago. There is no. There is no scientific proof that are negative blood existed. It just simply appeared about five thousand years ago. Yes she's just referring to facebook comment. Avi the often. Don't know about that for five thousand years i As long as there are people there's been blurred will Of blood types. I don't know about the negative. I don't know about that started but it is also sad that it's Haley blood tied or at least that part of it that that could be fine because we are not only created by the owner. Knock you in all of this seedings on earth coming from other places in the black race that it was all over africa for thousands of years they come from serious and the they talk about the alien species came down and taught them how to do agriculture and told them other successful societies and they laughed together so and this has been around there those stories on for five thousand years. It's a cycle. Yeah so. I'm just wondering. Is it possible that the bible is just a representation of one group of people and defining that. Yeah that's very likely could be a I know how the bible was created and for what purpose it was. I i read the notes from the meetings in constantinople turk. Your may say. I time if the when they were two hundred twenty three people that was ordered by emperor conduct gene to goldeneye. Say how we ate a religion that will unify my empire. Do before you had done so. And they sent those people there and they were very nervous. They helped to create something that would unify the empire and they went to nine sound scrolls and tablets those writings and peak the shows and they stolen from everybody anything and put it into the bible. And that's what it says in the notes which you can actually v two places. You can find vote Oxford university press in england. If they'll let you have it. And also the copy museum in istanbul turkey. They have a copy of original notes from the Twenty five twenty six twenty seven. They created the first draft of the bible. Then they lied their face off for because they stole from everybody that they could find in those scrolls that they reviewed and then it credited to their god and guys that they say also he's got. Well i just wanna see this real quick. If you're calling in and you have a question please push option number one on your keypad. That way we know you have a question of not will. Just leave you and you anybody that calls in. There's two eight minutes left show at one. Three two three seven zero three seven seven We actually have another caller. That's calling him for a question. One second okay. Carol She just said. I used to be h. Negative and my mother to it just changed to o-negative. No the are eight is the negative. So you can be own negative. You can be a next if the that is the our age Before five thousand years ago everybody was a positive. There was no rh negative. Where yes my i of course would be. How do they know that. That's another good point. Genetics splicing That would be taking blood from from several different sources of using bone marrow. Where where'd you. Where did they find five dollars. Your blood i've played while they're really good either. Legit it's possible. I don't know. I don't know about these could very well. Be that has alien connects to it but it's I'm totally open to that. So but i don't know actually well. We got a caller. You wanna take it. Sure all right. Let's bring him on. Welcome to the orion affect right here with the hitman. Cat editor special guests on. How can we help you tonight augie. Hey yeah i'm. I've been watching a lot of stuff there and i saw one of the things that you put on out there when you were in prison there and you would get a lot of meditation and were able to receive what you call the download your mental state and myself ever since i was a little kid. I've always felt like intuitive. This and i kind of lost long a while back. But now i'm kinda like damian back a little bit. I feel and i've now coming down to kinda like with an agricultural state of as i'm going to sleep while i'm still conscious and i have a lot of stuff on my mind that things are now coming to me as i'm going to sleep and i'm starting to see up in front of my eyes. My eyes closed and i'm trying to figure out. How can i get to a better state of understanding these things. Well it's it is growth you You gotta get out of your head and into the spirit or into the heart and fox if you come you know seeing the mastermind. Next sundays would teach. You can get your own download understand better. I also write about how to do this. And my birth about spiritual science higher conscious of how to access the universal consciousness. There you will get a lot. 'cause i've been i've been seeing a lot of things like Going through masters of people. Which i don't recognize the faces of the people and i don't recognize the place that i'm at You can't put that together. But just just the other night i had one worth. My grandparents came to me and it completely threw me for a loop i have from. Hasn't your grandparents departed. Yes they bring it on for a little bit over twenty years now okay. Very close with them. Yeah well you may say that. They didn't gone but Maybe they haven't maybe they'd come around every so often just to check on your i kind of feel that my grandmothers in my guardian angel. I'm a commercial and quite a few times where i feel. It made it back across the ocean. Yeah they don't very all they take on a job like that so it could very well happen but common journalists in the mastermind connection. And you'll get a very much better understanding of more. I greatly appreciate the offer there and i will have to. I'll put a comment here on facebook. And maybe you can see my friends and the people showed me a link for it. I appreciate it. I'm very personal. You you have contact me on facebook too. That'd be good. that'd be calmer often message really appreciate it. Thank you so much for sharing your wealth of information that you have thank you. Thank you caller. We wanted thank you guys. I'll be jimmy. Wants to know if you believe when we depart we transcend to another round. Absolutely just start going into a different room and the doing parents go back. Do you believe that you choose around me. Go to your create the path to the zoom. By the way you conduct yourself in this room and so if you believe yourself to be evil you probably around me. Create for yourself is not going to be a good one. Won't do city stuff. You know you can expect that. Maybe you'll have some of that again. Yeah there you go geigo right. So i yeah i would say Just as long as you are striving for higher consciousness. That is where you will end up. Absolutely yeah i think determined came here with a job to do certain things to learn and Some people call it karma all turks for it i guess but there are some things that just cannot get around the eggs aged for us to go through learn these things because he may not drag the first time in the last time he came back to get a good understanding of something that we hadn't learned before makes perfect sense. All thank you so much. 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#92Noon! Motivation Monday!

"Dan. As far back as I can remember I always wanted to be gangster. Traitor I La La la La like this got to be some seats, righteous queen. Minute wrote this latter. Decide the Senate side still. Going on now. Monday in the love covenant, Good Morning Hashtag fake family. It's Paul Allen Producer Eric Nordquist Matt. Producer happy to be joined on this Monday by Kevin Warren. The Commissioner of the Big Ten first Black Commissioner at the one hundred twenty three year, history of the Big Dan and Mr Commissioner joins us now Kevin Paul Allen is this Monday starting? Okay for you? In Pa has been A. He's been a great start to a great Monday and I just want also just Tell you and all the other fathers I hope they had a wonderful father's Day weekend yesterday, and also although a lot of the MOMS out there who had to stand in the gap, and B, both mom and dad. Happy's mother and father's Day called. Who Been Fathers, but there are a lot of great fathers there and I just want to wish them a happy father's Day weekend. I hope they had a great time. I know that I. Did and I hope you did also no down about that Mr Commissioner speaking of Father's day the the name. Dr Morrison Warren Senior that Dow that that's a that's a very significant and personal name to you correct. Oh Yeah yeah, I was I didn't WanNa cry this early on. Monday but he was on my mind all day. You know yesterday and just. That I. Did have a great father who led by example and you know it was a hard worker. You know went through a lot, but you know as a standup guy. He really wasn't true mansion and a Great Lakes. In my life I. Miss Him Dearly and I. Say this early sincerely at all the people. Listening if your mom and dad, are still living and I know especially positive. Your father, still living, you know whatever. Issues you have with them, you know. Try to try to make a manse because it truly is a blessing if your if your dad is still living, and maybe it hasn't been perfect, but but these are the times in the society that we're living in now where time to clear the air because I would I would give it all back just to. Have Dinner With my dad so. Yeah appreciate that well, and and and I appreciate. You tried to give you a warning. Be Of those tax messages. Can you know cabinet? Early so be ready. And and I I didn't mean like a Mr Commissioner come on Shh. Don't tell anybody. When are they going to be on the field for big ten foot by? They mean it like that, but light light with father's Day. It a couple of things here. Dr Morrison Warren Senior. Take out the doctor part. Morrison Warren senior sounds like the name of an old schooler. I would pay money to watch open up Louis Armstrong. Nondescript jazz clubs in New York City Mandra. Both, my parents. My Love. My Love from both of my parents always busy playing playing in our house and the great thing about it, because we transcended so many generations they've they've played I mean school from Ella Gera-. Sarah von Nancy Wilson die in Warwick and Nat King Cole Oh. Yeah, and then I had a sister who love L. John and we had everything from stevie wonder to to like I said to Sarah Bond to do the Beatles playing in our house was always constantly Playing me I wish I had saved the turntable. The my parents have, but my dad was he. He loved us a quiet guy. Serious Guy, but he did love. Music Yeah, and Guy, Kevin Warren former Vikings chief operating officer been been with us, basically every Monday for the last three are every other Monday for the last three three months big ten commissioner and you know speaking of music cabinets interesting. You know we would go this direction. The the producer, Nordahl, and I am music is first and foremost for his man. It's like you know worthy types that will sit there and watch live acts. Acts from back in the day on Youtube to chill and kill time and sports while we love it, you know it's to a certain extent. Our jobs because of what we do so like over the last week and a half post post the death of George Floyd and everything through that you know we we with with with my knowledge in this musical genre being what it is when we just started going off the cuff man at the importance of blacks in music. Seriously Shaping everything man and you know we went back to cab, Calloway Ray Charles and his influence in country music. Louis Armstrong basically started jazz in like Boeing one as and. Then you get up to like Elvis Presley White Guy, but you know appealed the blacks and whites Some would say because of the way sang in the way danced, and what triggered. It is my all time. Favorite Artists Darryl Hall I read a Story Daryl Hall. You know in his in his seventies now. Part of Daryl, Hall, and John Oates White Most accomplished duo history of music. Daryl Hall had a quote within the last three years Kevin. Kevin where he was like I hate the term blue eyed saul abet because that that I look at that as a racist term because I grew up in Philadelphia with the OJ's the temptations of the del Phonics, Harold Melvin and the blue notes. They all raised me and they were all black, so don't tell me because I have blue eyes. I'm doing something that like is different for a white genre, simply because it appeals to blacks, you know. I agree with you. I mean when you look at the history I. Mean You know even Little Richard, who God blesses those who just passed like you said Louis Armstrong, who I absolutely love Louis, Armstrong Song where the wonderful world is one of my one of my favorites. We actually have a painting at home. The Greta was able to to get an artist to paint of Louis Armstrong that we have in our in our dining room area. He's spectacular may just just the talent that has come down and you know music pulls everyone together when you want to start talking about it. Interesting Music story. If you haven't seen it yet, but there's a great. Documentary out there on Linda Ronstadt Oh yeah, and you talking about talent, and just the tie in someone made a comment in there that she has fought side straight platinum albums in a row, but just the way that she's been able to perform, and and her tied to being Mexican American, and all of the issues, and and I mean just what she did. I mean music is is one of the court tenets of our our society, and it's one of the reasons why you know I just I just hope with throwing up during all this social injustice that we can get to back to the point where we can restore some of the music classes that we. Had, you know growing up and start spending money on invested in in music, excrements for our young people, because they just really is a cornerstone of of the world, and especially about the of American Society, and I just love it, and that's one of the reasons why you're not connect to. People don't understand that and I've had a lot of people ask me. you know what what are you in PA to talk about? On the bus rides of the plane rides on the road trips and sports in calls and games. They've just very rarely we did. We always talked about about about music and and so it was always you know awesome to be able to share that with you, and and just the the the various backgrounds of music that you understand so that's something I always appreciate and love before yeah, and and Likewise Kevin you know, and the without wagging fingers at at society and being like. Hey, you got to do this. Hey, you gotta give this Aaron, Rodgers you? You blew up drew. Drew brees on twitter where you're going to be in a month a year and ten years when it comes to truly going non obvious with helping, it ain't like that with music man. It was see harmony can be found via harmony I mean. Go back to the twenty S. go to go to Louis Armstrong all for up to the sixties little. Richard Chuck Chuck Berry Ray Charles Look at all the whites and the crowds with the blacks next to each other all finding harmony via harmony, and is it the end all answer? No, but is it kind of a non obvious, a non obvious approach to at least a sliver of making things better man you know. Play on. It is because one thing about it. Is it just it transcends race and religion make you can get the coolest thing about it when you go into jazz, nightclub or any nightclub there and and see someone perform. Whether it's miles, Davis or someone perform one of their his own Louis Armstrong like you said and see to see people white, brown black Jewish people Muslim. Christian whatever you WANNA call it a younger old, really connect with the you know with the song, and that that that that really is what this world is about and what it should be about and that just I'm a big believer. that that music transcends you know everything where we are in life, and I and I'm starting to hear two things. I've noticed lately. I'm starting to hear more birds. CHIRP on these conference calls that I'm on. It just seems like the climate has needed this rest. During this pandemic, always looking for the positive, and I just hear more birds chirping. And then I'm hearing. People play more music and down and I just hope that you know that's something that we continually to do and. We love it all know. Nacho on we just we just. We Love them all and then I just think the more that we listen to music better, this world will be. enclosing for this segment God rest his soul of Dr Morris and Warren Senior. It was father's Day yesterday and you know whether it's pair your powers, your wife, your beloved Luna Bear may be. She actually got scrap and you cracked in the purge. Gate you're, you're right man, but but I was thinking about you with your father. Because I know how instrumental he has been to where you are, and where you are as the first Black Commissioner, in the hundred twenty three year history of the big time, and that's that's a major accomplishment, but correct me if I'm wrong here, did did your dad play football for the Brooklyn dodgers in nineteen, forty eight. Yes he did he was. You know could when you start talking about a true student athlete, he played it. There is on a state in the mid forties but it was interesting about the actually started off at Community College in Phoenix. Arizona State and this is a win. These are true renaissance. Man That's why I love this country so much why I'm so passionate about this country is that he went and fought in World War Two and then came back, and finished his college career, and then was able to go on, and and get his masters in his doctorate from Arizona State, and you know I. Look back some of the things. He accomplished what he was doing it. He did it, so we just with so so much cheese and he didn't. He didn't make a big deal of himself. and you know he was able to be on the. City, Council and Phoenix you know in the sixties and then vice mayor and. Nine, he wasn't even a politician. He was a educator, but for him to to be able to do that accomplish so. Many goals, which is amazing, and then he was a first. You know he was able to become the first. Black man to be a president of a major college bowl game and a fiesta bowl, the nineteen eighty one. Wow, so the thing that probably I'm most proud of. Is that he? There were two black student. Athletes State football team in the forties. and they were scheduled to go play. Texas and share the story with you before you was called. Texas Western in Texas and other people from Texas called and said. Don't bring your to buy players, 'cause we can't guarantee their safety, and so my my dad quiet, but a strong guy went to talk to the president at Arizona State and and said you know what this is time for us to really stand up against social injustice. We can't. Get to the point where we're doing this stuff. These are my brothers and. That's one of the reasons. I, always tip my hat to them. They stood out and they cancel the game. They said we can't bring Morrison warning. George digs. WHO's my uncle? To to play. We're not coming and so, what was so amazing about it so they? They cancel the game. And this has been written about they don't go to Texas and then one of the reasons. Why have a picture of the nineteen sixty six Texas Western basketball team hanging on my wall? at my house is the fact that was the first time. The black athletes started a game in NCAA basketball. That's when they beat University of Kentucky. Brooks team. It was not only they won the national championship, but it was the fact that they started five black tonight. So many people have called me and said it was really your dad and uncle. Who Started? They stood up to racism to hate All those different things Arizona State canceled the Game Texas recognizes that they make some changes and then less than twenty years later you got five black men starting on a for at the time you tip which used to be Texas Western, and and they win the national championship so again I think what it says that we've been dealing with social injustice for for so many years, and as I said we had inflection point now time society we. We have an opportunity to get things right. I'm all over side the last couple of weeks, but I've been more court encouraged. I ever have been that. We're going to be able to pull this together. I've just seen so many beautiful. That's kindness by people. across racist and and I'm confident that we're really come together and look back of his time and twenty twenty to say this was the age civil rights movement, but this the time that we were able to get things done. Around the corner, Kevin, when we come back. Of course you. You get to pick the bumper music like you did with that common piece. Right out of the gate the the two suggestions I have now on which you can chew will be Louis Armstrong's what a wonderful world or maybe Chuck Brown and the soul searchers feel like Boston lows Boston, Lewis Gabrielle now man. I can tell you the one I always defer to my wife and I and the next time I come on. We're GONNA start with a wonderful world, but I would love if you could play. Frankie Beverly and maze before I let you go and You're the Basque. Draghi beverly as no matter, the climate happy feelings in the. Back in a minute, okay, okay, thank. Kevin warm. Commissioner of the big man. I just absolutely just like I. Just put on twitter. I just can't get enough. Every other Monday for about three and a half months, a motivation Mondays of the Commissioner of the big ten, joining nine to noon on Sports Race Relations family music, and just so much, just really really look forward to it the whole weekend and around the corner, actually impressing college and or pro sporting related issues, part of the timber checks less. What's on deck nine to noon courtesy of timber. And Timber Jack Dot Com. nordahl produces, and I'm Paul Allen Good Morning. It's a Monday in the Love Covenant at FM One hundred point three. K. F. A. AND Nine to noon. Hey lookie here it is my main man Eric Vr Guard. 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It's Metropolitan Ford for ninety four and five in Eden Prairie Metropolitan, four dot com online. It's Metropolitan Ford Selling Customer Satisfaction Fun and safety, not you. Is a golden time of day Monday. Happy feelings Monday. And before we let you go. If you're a new scholar, we would like to introduce you to the Funky stylings of Frankie beverly and his band called May's. You. She can. Ella. Stripped by. Don! Doing Great. This is an honor. You should be our clothing. We always play before I let you go I. Mean I mean that Olives on your Marconi. You're like planning. Okay Big Ten Commissioner CEO Dr Morrison Warren Senior. Brooklyn Dodgers Forty Eight? All great accomplishments where we're GONNA have to work on the weekend piece of light, coordinating the two segments with the producer with all due respect sir. Okay. As leader of a major football conference, what do you think thirty Lsu players get quarantined and you know with Alabama and some other spots, some coronas, virus, positives or popping up I would imagine that your mind going to work to mostly protect big ten student athletes. I mean as we've always said in the big ten, our number, one goal, and not only physically but emotionally. Spiritually you know financially is to make sure that our student athletes their health and safety and wellness is at the center of all of our decisions. I've been very. Impressed use around college athletics. You know based upon what I read and hear when I've seen certain individuals, student athletes test positive for the covid nineteen virus, and it just seemed like the school is they're. They're following the proper protocol and procedures from quarantine standpoint and making sure student athletes. Are you know healthy and safe so I'm I'm really just encouraged about that. This is GonNa be this night. The twenty twenty has been an interesting year. This is what I call the non straight line year and I think we're all learning on the fly, and that's why we've continually tried to be on the cutting edge, and ta one of the things I'm most proud, and we actually have our first. Call today is that we started this anti-hate and anti-racism coalition you know in the big ten and to see the number of student, athletes and coaches and athletic directors and. Chancellors and presidents, but just people from the community who have stepped forward to say they wanNA, participate and Our first initiative is that we're going to focus on? You know registering the vote is that this is something that we've been dealing with from the beginning of Tyne is that black folks have not had the same opportunities and access to be able to to register You know to vote and all of the issues associated with voter suppression, so I'm pleased that our big ten conference, so whether you're white, Brown or black that we're gonNA. Stand up together and say that we need to do all that we possibly can to get. People are They opportunity wanted to become. Become an educated voter and to have a chance to vote and and so I'm excited to see our student athletes come together, and and for us to band together to to help teach them about our political process, and and again provide them with the platform, so we can hear their voice and so I'll make. This is a happy week for me. from the standpoint from a social injustice standpoint, it's obviously a very big meeting coming up in an and a big process, and and a big plan moving forward as you cast your gaze, but you know for you so working row through college, and then brokering the deal to buy the Vikings representing the Wilson. The on I don't know the exact title, but you're like the lead lawyer for the Vikings and and lead counsel for the wealth, your chief operating officer now you're the commissioner of the big debt, so you've got there and I would imagine there were some non obvious ways that you had to navigate. Maybe duty your race through all of that. What What what do you think it will take for there to be more black commissioners of major conferences? You know for me to do exceptional job I mean I'm at that point in lice and my parents, so they were real lists I mean they? They had to deal with a lot of racism I mean. My mother my grandmother. was from Guadalajara Mexico, so my mother was my ratio have Mexican have black, and then having a black father from Texas and so we we've dealt with may really dealt with it, but the best thing that I can do. is for me to do an exceptional job. I cannot afford to be a average commission. You can't afford to be a good commission. I can't even afford to be a great commissioner I. Need to be exceptional and. I to break the mold every single day. Some people say well. That's a lot of pressure. I. Don't look at it especially. I look at it as an oppor tuning, because the one thing that I wanna do is I wanNA, do such an exceptional job here that when people look for next leaders, whether it's the or other conferences or corporate America or board, seats or coaches or presidents in the NFL whatever the case may be, is they look and say we remember this Guy Kevin Warrant was exceptional. Leader, and we want to give another person of color or another woman, an opportunity to just have a chance, and that's all I ask for ever never asked to cut in line I never asked for you. Know a free ticket. All acids just give me and other people who look like me the opportunity. That's why I'm so grateful for Eric Taylor. And I tell him that every time I see him. Is that you know search committee didn't have any on their list, air, Kayla was a person. Has To get me opportunity just interview. That's it. It's all. All he wanted, and that's all I accepted in the interview led to the offer, the offer led to the job and the job has led to situation where we've been able to really move the down, mental health and wellness, and now you know with voter registration anti-hate erased coalition just so many other things I would just worked with a wonderful group. Of People at the big ten, who were there with me every single day when I come up with some of these crazy ideas that they listen and and then they just make these things happen so I'm I'm really a servant to them so as people like you, who always treated me and others are. Don't even look at the color, and that's all we need to do. In Society, we get to the point where we just really have a true meritocracy about people chance Tabah chance, and so I'm GonNa. Do everything I can to be exceptional, and hopefully this will open the doors for the people who look like me. Or who don't look like people think they should look to just give them a chance to have a chance. Kevin Warren Big ten commissioner nine to noon few quickies to close nine thirty good morning I'm as as like commissioner. God okay, help me with this advised. Social distancing protocol cannot be achieved in football with with practices or games it it. It just can't so I mean. Is that in on charging problem you foresee? Yeah and I. Just you know one thing I've tried to do in this. This process is really even get rid of the word problem. Say IT'S A it's A. It's an issue and it's A. It's an opportunity for us to to really rely on our medical expert. So many bright. You know medical doctors there I know sometime we have years where they may feel a little bored, and and may not have things to do. This is the time for our whole medical community. To come together for us to listen to them, so it's GonNa be interesting and down in the you know it's one thing to make history, and you don't recognize if you're making history until it's over until somebody writes about it and say Oh, that was a historical moment and and it's another thing to be in the middle of making history i. it's just like in the back to the Linda Ronstadt. Dealing at a you know they. They made a song, and he said once they finished it. They lifted each other and said I think they are these when they made that, he made us only interested. When they finished it in the studio, he looked at her and said I'll see you at the grandest and 'cause you know, and this is where we are right now now. I can guarantee you that we will look back in twenty twenty will be in the history books for so many different issues one for Cova nineteen, the impact on sports, but most primarily for the social injustice, and all the hate racism and we've had to deal with, but as I said the reason why I'm so excited and encouraged is that this is the first time that people white people black people that we've come together. We put our differences on the table. We're not there yet, but we're starting to piece by piece. Talk to these issues and. And I believe in America. believe in the people of America, and I believe they just the goodness of people that were coming together solve these issues, and and also better world our future generations, so many of these references between you and I Kevin on or off the microphone. Always come back to music, and you know what with Linda Ronstadt off that off that Linda. Linda Ronstadt documentary because I watched to to you know even though we didn't have social media and we didn't have MTV and and like things blowing up nationwide where boom by snap you got with you. Let lender it can be argued Kevin. Linda Ronstadt was the beyond say of the Seventies. Light Light Light said in the document I mean. That's how big she was. No doubt I mean. She was talented and the thing that I liked about her is that she was so comfortable with everyone and the national, the younger people that that came out of that group and the Eagles, and all the different people that came together. She's saying everything and you started talking about the you know fairness and equality. That's it was cool to see you know her. Emily Harris and Dolly Parton. Women who were leading men bands, and which is great, and I just love that kind of diversity that she brought to the table, and just the way that she handles herself, and and just you know mazing music that that you know it was really powerful and. Said Lotteries why I love you and love your family, but again our our love for music has been amazing, and that's why I have to say a to one of my favorite people all the time when the greatest human beings to ever live, and that's Bob Hagan He he's. He's probably the only person I know who seem more concerts in the more concerts. LOVES MUSIC AS. Much as I do it I remember we went to See you too, and he hands me the sheet of paper earlier today. When day I said, what is this? We're GONNA meeting and he said this is the playlist for tonight. I'm like who? Where did you get this wrong now, right? So Bobby. He's the guy love and I just love hearing balance and their kids. He's just he is truly a spectacular young met. I have met the lead singers of America and the Little River band. The Medina Ballroom Kirk courtesy of Bob Hagan, and and my main man runs the place, so I mean in honor, a Bob hold on hold on time for two more now all right You know, I, know you follow the NFL from afar. Maybe Roger's GonNa. Do something that you're like you know you don't claim to have all the answers and. Steal People stop it. You saw you KINDA WANNA. See All the options, and you know with with the NFL probably some big NFL decisions coming up here relatively soon right I mean you got training camps almost a month away. Players aren't back facilities. You know I, don't I? Don't say it flipping flippantly or jokingly, but I wrote Roger's GonNa. Push through whatever he can push through, but there may only be so much through which he can push and man for like commissioner of the NFL. Dan Holy Cow! It's the dog days of the summer, but you guys have some massive decisions coming up soon, don't you? The next thirty to forty five days are are are critical and I've. I've said it all along and again. This is truly one of those ones I think. That's one of the reasons why I've been so emotionally about my dad. because. He was always a person that I could go to say this is absolutely. This is not in a textbook. This is not on a video is not on Youtube. Video is just. This is very complicated and as I told someone the other day I was in a meeting, and said I'm kinda dealing living in a three d world now trying to. Make decisions that you know what impact another decision and then that would really impact the biggest decision and the person said No. It's not three sixty and and I agree with that. That you know so all I can do is continually just rely on our. Our medical experts rely on our professionals. Always put our student athletes at the center of all of our decisions, you know, make sure that they're healthy and safe. and NPA is pray and I'm telling you what I wake up in the morning on my knees I get on my niece throughout the day and go to bed on my knees I'm just asking God for Really Eh. Eh Wisdom and insight and discernment to do the right thing not for me, but for all the people that I serve and and that that that's my decisions will impact so I feel good and I just take it day by day. There's been a great date so far. And what does it say? Great? Jim Vinyl said if in the day if you can, basically laughs cry and sink I just watched that speech over the weekend for the espy's. You had a great day and it's and it's It's already only what nine thirty seven central time and I've already done them. All already laughs. I've already cried. Already thought so. Great Bay so the rest of the day down. Magical and Oh you're so you're so you're so open and honest man to me like say Commissioner Adam Silver was the next gas joining us now. NBA Commissioner Adam Silver Talk about that July thirtieth in Orlando thing but I Adam. Have you gotten on your knees cried and laughed all. It? Ain't GonNa work that way, so he got. Out every going closing three to. Bear thirty seconds to make Monday good. So. Wasn't Linda Ronstadt. If the if like, the rutgers president was on hold waiting for like a nine thirty five hundred three minutes too late, and by the way played Linda Ronstadt. No regrets bless you. Have a great day will stay in touch. I'll talk to you on the radio and a couple of weeks and I'll texter. Call you soon. Okay, same same thing and just again love to all the people in the twin cities, and and we appreciate you all just hug also so tight and PA love you to death and. just have a great day and do something kind to someone today that either can't repay your backer, or they don't know that you did it for their, but just let's all have a at least one single act of kindness today, and also tell somebody you love so got God bless you. Just want WANNA. Tell you I love you appreciate. You have a wonderful day. We'll talk soon. God, bless you Hebrews Eleven toxin. They. Care bye-bye Kevin Warren be Commissioner of the big ten conference every other week on a motivation, Monday can't speak for the mad. Producer won't speak for the audience got a lot of people out. There got no idea which way opinions go bought for my standpoint I who segments to begin a week of play in the nine to noon covenant. Oh, yeah. We call them. Covenant Claps. And you also will be providing a rousing ovation. 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To reschedule it, of course, know might be some difficulties in that, so we're select seven seven fifteen. We're still the seven to seven thirty time slot, okay, and upon the completion of bumper to bumper segment immediately following the shell I assume they'll still be here. In the building, so whatever they have plan seven o'clock hits here we go. Let's go, and maybe we have Alex stay lock on. Maybe we have Chad greenway on gleaming in it'll be. You missed the topic I. Know I. I don't want to go back out there again if there's no confirmation. Big Spot head coach would be joining. It's a Friday night which would be eight fifteen northern Kentucky. Yeah Ziara ours orig- ranch time, or it would be you eight o'clock a you know a seven seven fifteen. Whatever here yeah I'm? For the for the virtual rupe party where people can ask questions, and we see the questions, and and we respond to them right the the first virtual rupe party before it was postponed, we had Mike Zimmer in the mix seven fifteen to seven thirty yet, and it was going to go. Nordahl and is seven, two seven, zero five. Bring in the techie seven zero five bring in the goaltender seven, one zero zero. Yes, bring in the head coach, seven, one five, and then potentially surprised at seven to five. I I like that approach to come through, doesn't he? Know I think he does, and as we'll get into over the next couple of hours here, the the lack of Things to do. Might you say what do you mean like I mean while he doesn't. Have to be in the facility right now as I don't think the Letterman them in the facility right now. They're just creating tier systems super special tier systems as part of the NFL while we'll get to it systems. Let's just say yeah. There are tests in tears. Dropping is as in tears of the first year of access. The tears of lear access yeah I. Thought Maybe there was a testing that involved the T. A. R. Piece. Yeah, and I was like how come when I walk up to twincities, orthopedics performance center every single time before I can enter and I get that we are gadget. Put up on my forehead hopefully to show a ninety six seven. you force me to watch the final stages of the two thousand nine enough C. title game so tears drop my eyes, and you can get a test. I always so now we're working on the emotional wear with all of a human being to get a T. A. R. tasked when juice box I mean Nordahl I mean Ding Dong. It mean mad producer. You mean of economy tanked for thirty seconds. To fight me, yeah I I. Give Nicknames, I, I am character Laden. Yes, you are and always have been and all you call me the cartoon character that's correct and you're living up to the billing and I appreciate, and I didn't come up with like I'm the cartoon character the freaking bubble coming out of the side of my mouth Sane Aga Arg. Pal. Bam, ZAP or whatever? It I got you, so it's Yeah, you're I'm never going to stop that. That's a good thing. while that's what makes you, says you, you go out and try to put a character on somebody in the wrong building and a wide. You told me that I mean that's not with my snapchat. INSTAGRAM twitter linked in or whatever profile. Yeah, that's not gonNA. Go over incredibly well. Somebody may think you are trying to minimize me or diminishment now I'm just. You're freshly shaving like babies, so just like call people. The debate artery Ryan. But you're twenty two years into this and the only time you've been in the HR department is to make sure that you know how many vacation days you have left, so I think you've done okay. Through this portion of your career, you can limit in the number of people. You've offended with odd nickname now around the corner if I say. Couldn't find it still looking, or let's tie this to the Vikings. From a listener standpoint, we take emails anytime by the way booth at Kfi. Am Dot Com Bradshaw Brian box good morning if it involves the Minnesota Vikings, no matter the different, awkward, surreal, whatever nature of the Times. If I say biking football can't find it. What does that mean? Well obviously I often. happening. I've been looking by. Having a hard time finding that must be what you mean. Let's just put it this way. When I say can't find it, it generally does mean the Minnesota Vikings. I Lawson schedule. not this time, but it does involve the the Vikings and the national, football league in the season. I'll explain what that means around the corner when nine to noon. Nine to noon. Personal. Lessons. Man I can't speak for your abode. There was a part Saturday. At my I mean you. You've been to my house multiple times. Yeah, and now you have even been to the Quarantine Lounge extablished during the purge by cotton John Incredible out under the cover of darkness. Yeah, I mean I bet you. A lot of people did this underneath his deck. It was like the the deck underneath part for a Zillion people. I would bet rocks wheelbarrow like some broken things stuff like is it wasn't anything special. Yeah, so like during the quarantine the early stages when the weather was okay, my guy cotton, John he started, he built. That's that lounge that that quarantine lounge with the nice flooring and the lighting and the TV, and you got the comfortable couches and everything a little bar and stuff, and like like I, never knew, and then all of a sudden boom popped up and went back there. In fact, the first time I had seen it. post completion was when I rolled back there with you. Okay, yeah, and your little girls were playing. With with one of his daughters, yet and I bet you a lot of people did that during the purge I mean we're limited so I. Mean you? You've seen you know the flowers and or plants that that that I that that Leeson I planted the the Mall Ching just like all of the Ansari Exterior Stop with limitations as much as I can do I'm building no quarantine lounge. I don't know if you could build a quarantine lounge, but people starting late March, and then finishing and like Mason Oh prideful, they are in this. Or purging things from houses where you just had time I, mean I did a lot of that, and and I've done a lot of thrown away betcha. A lot of people have done a lot of that and you know now you know as we when we were discussing during the purge, you know you've got the NFL draft draft memorial. Day Memorial Day is a new batch while fourth of July you know that's going to be a new patch into new things, so we are you know we're? We're kind of in the middle of all that right now. A little bit with the slings and Arrows of outrageous proclamations or Predictions coming at us from big spot, people the the the show opener every other Monday on a motivation Monday. Is the last. Who Ever will make a prediction He, he, I mean in in the business world or in life. You'll hear people say. Don't it's Cliche, but don't make a decision until you absolutely have to make that decision. And Kevin Kevin Warren Big ten commissioner on a motivation Monday kicked off an hour ago. He he lives by that, so then I wonder what he feels when he sees Major League Baseball leader Rob Manfred get on national TV with tens of millions watching sane, one hundred percent, unequivocally baseball, and then five days later going gymnast probably less than fifty fifty now because. You know it's just that that's so antithetical to the way. Goodell or Warren or others you know who are in big spot jobs with people like. In your early just sitting back waiting for breadcrumbs Kevin Warren. Ain't gonNA. Jump out there and say this game versus. Say It's Ohio. State and Georgia southern will take place on this date, and here's why and come back five days later and say Whoa Whoa Whoa he never do that. No, he wouldn't and but. Whether. Of the big ten in we're talking about the NFL in the midst of an off season, and just kind of the the never. Fall terrain freight train juggernaut that the the National Football League is yeah, the NBA, and I I think the charisma and the grace with which Adam silver is handled things for the most part has been quite impressive as wealth area can find him with the searchlight, which is the right place to be right now. Until. There's something to share right. He's on all the calls. He's doing all of the work, but I'm not coming out of the shadows until it's time to tell you exactly what's happening? Yeah, meanwhile, sports baseball seems like it's been in the quagmire. Just the Nastiness of labor negotiations really for most of my life. I mean being sworn in the mid eighties. You Miss A freaking world series in ninety four because of negotiations. How and you almost weren't able to start the ninety five season on time like I mean? Mean you know it seems like the sport of baseball has been very unique in its scandal, and in its labor, related negotiations from the steroid era, all the way back to the black socks of writing nineteen and things like that. Let's Joe Jackson though and then betting on baseball with with Hustle, so you know the baseball has been so unique in her relationship with teams and owners and players, Aguire Sosa Yeah, and Amera Ninety eight yeah, and then look at all this offense. Oh Ball's juiced. Okay, we'll prove Armenian. Proving it that their wound too tightly over the last X. amount of years specifically last year with with all with all the quote, dogs and quote. Yeah, but then you know even when like chorus field in Colorado, popped up. You know the altitude right right and Dante bichette and on Larry Walker. Because, see! Larry Walker Gallaraga hit some bombs up there. Yeah, look round shot was his nickname when he played for the Expos, the big Cat Andres, Galarraga and you know then they would go to extremes with like baseball's are going to go into humidors, course field, and whatever to try to pull back on that a little bit and everything so yeah, that's all been during during your. Your lifetime very well put, but the key is. The key is to that what I'm getting to is. Is Roger Goodell Goodell GonNa jump on with Trey Wingo and then say unequivocally the Vikings will play the packers on September thirteenth, and then come back with Karl ravage five days later, and then say well we. We have a little hitch in the old giddy up now. Now the the key to properly setting expectations is is what we've looked at throughout the purge where we've complimented the NFL, and and I've I've been so happy with how some of these leagues including Goodell and now with with Kevin Warren in the mix is you. You create a goal, and then you do everything you can do accomplish that goal. That's been an ongoing theme. Theme in terms of checkpoints throughout this time. Yeah, but the impressive thing whether it's Warren at the college ranks, and then most of these pro leagues is that they've always only made big spot decisions when they absolutely had to means it's eleventh hour. It's we've we've looked at all of the data. We've got everybody from the CDC in the health world in on the mix. We're working with state governments I. Bet you the Vikings are in touch. Even with walls is office and the Minnesota Department of Health on a regular basis, determining what the outlook and and kind of mindset is and ultimately what the Palette of. Of tolerance will be for playing in the midst of a pandemic like all these leagues have been up in front and really. Proactive about that sir, so that's been the impressive part I think into what's your point is is not making big spot proclamations, or you can fulfill those those goals you've set so with the feast Friday back together again. P. A. in charge. Go to full strength, always word. That's debatable cop, copyright, Gopher Hockey fans, you know charge being charged into you just how he is, he was just pushing and pushing with you know like returned facilities in preseason, and all that and I'm like look here. I'm not I'm not being flippant or arrogant here but I'm just going to end this conversation like this would it involves the NFL draft I don't prefer to guess when it involves a certain team. Yeah, okay. Okay, so we can look back at the I. Don't like to guess right okay. When it comes to certain things, I don't want to guess I've been around here long enough of work with the certain team long enough and I know enough people over X. amount of years where by faith, and most importantly by trust I can get close to or get the answer that people absolutely want or or request. It may not be what they want like with the. Man, you know there's a certain defensive end where certain team may be trading up a few spots. Okay, that didn't work Then whatever whatever might be a coroner might be. It's going to be wide receiver corner. Let's let it fall boom. Right before to to Justin Jefferson boom. Right before whatever jeff gladly. Kay Cool! We don't like to guess on that week we would prefer. Prefer to have the dead accurate answer. Yeah, my route to getting. It is my route to getting God. Bless everybody involved when it comes to specifically this team and the sport I just on Friday, said look. I'm tired of guessing I'm spending the weekend and I'm coming back here Monday with answers when when it comes to Lebron Lebron against Let's say a bi. Early August in in the finality of A. NBA regular season game piece at least of the postseason. If that happens great, I can't wait. But I you know I ain't gonNA. Tap On that July ten with the NHL training camp. Continent told you and charge them. Friday. I'm trying to be the devil's advocate here but I mean if they're just starting to work on the players, protocol and bubbles and cities, and all that they're just starting to work on June twenty second. Okay. I I can't say it's too late, but I mean there is going to be pushback. From the players and I am guaranteeing this regarding. What's going to be coming at them? Yeah, in recent news would indicate that you were very accurate. In terms of players, not being happy with what's being given to them last Thursday and Friday I was accurate saying. Let's hold the horses on July ten You were yes, Oh, so is that part of the ten thirty? It will be yes. Wait can't wait I'm just saying that. Just because the requests and protocol, and and what's permitted, what's encouraged has not been laid out to the public does not mean a fair amount of it has not been laid out to the players right and was was laid out to the players in my opinion at a certain point last week, so therefore i. just you know just by chatting with people. I chat. I came back in here. Thursday, saying demand the slide ten, I would. Would bet the no, I would bend the no on July ten training cancer. NHL. Teams but I wouldn't bet a lot and I say and it's a ten ninety. It's a forty sixty yet. It's a forty, five, fifty, five or a Saas would laid out. It's forty pod seventy, five, forty, five, the bad way that that they return, but we certainly barest chatting may be even attempt thirty five. Yeah, we will, but when I say. Scenes football. I can't find it and I say to mad producer. What's main or the listening audience? He's like. Wow, you've looked at the vikings schedule, and it's the it's the age old bit, which which is is popular on twitter. When I decide to do with that, I can't find the first loss. That's not the answer. To I can't find him. The answer is returned to facility. Steam tied to what needs to be done. Now. In. May I think I was taking some days off in May, and like decompressing coal, speculating vocal maintenance, and then I came back to you feeling pretty good about specifically the Vikings but the NFL. I'm feeling July. Six returned to facility following the holiday and following the holiday. July six returned facility and conditioning. Let's say ten days organized team activities. Let's say twenty one, but not concurrent, and then some form of training camp feels like two preseason games to me. I can't say as as we have. softly shared and or slow played over the last month. I can't say that's the date in fact I'd bet against it. I mean for for it's not like it's not like a team like in Georgia or your favorite. Governor the Georgia governor. In flowery branch Georgia because they loosened I, and they're more loose with things than the majority of the country, nowadays, a more of a Florida Governor Rhondda Santa's Fan I think he might be my favorite governor. As there's been recent virus spikes. Let's Let's go with flowery branch. Florida yet flowery branch Georgia. Yes, Atlanta Falcons. MIAMI DOLPHINS TAMPA Bay buccaneers Jacksonville Jaguars. It's not like because. Because of the way, their governors are or whatever they're following and if they're more open or less open, the rest of the country that they can just get to the facility and start practicing now there'll be a unilateral decision for all thirty teams, regardless of situations and individuals so I'm making my original steam. The July sixteen bit I mean six bet I'm making that a four percenter. Okay so. I'll. So now you know. I mean by forecasting football faith I'm guessing. I hate this, but I was able to amass a little steam over the weekend. And I'm GONNA stick by militia July two latest July at the earliest baby steam slash a missed well putting you in the idea of middle h a lot. There was a missed, but it wasn't hot. Okay and. With the with with the return to these facilities and the encouragement slash the what's permitted not and just the the overall, the whole protocol and the tears and the bases and everything. I mean if we think what we followed for the NBA with that bubble in Orlando. And you know x amount of players on the team, but five on five on the court. I have a feeling. If we think that was complicated and long it was seven pages of fourteen point type. That then? The, the NFL piece is going to be a novella. It's going to be tolstoy. Ask and and you know it's it's i. read something last week from from Sean mcvay and and John Harbaugh. McVeigh was commenting C. H. B.. O. Threw me off Ma'am gauge HBO has thrown me off with the hard. Knocks there with the August eleventh. Training camp with the chargers and the Rams Yeah on, HBO They jacked with me a little bit because I'm like. They put a date out, and they weren't even like tentatively August Eleventh. They didn't even feel bad about it, and and they're. They're juiced into the bet. Yes, a thousand times more than I ever will be and you and everybody so August eleventh is a pretty soft landing. If you're anticipating starting the season on time, they have to be happening by them right but see. Hbo Films, and all of that APP may be allowed in the building, HBO, by using two teams very smart move. Yeah, because the footage for one team will not be as a available or be compelling as usual hard knocks, so let's get teams in there. And we can build the time that way so I think it was a smart move by them. August eleventh so for the first one to Air August eleventh. That means we have at least had one week of training camp because they need training camp footage correct now all of a sudden here. We are six to two year of our Lord Twenty Twenty. And what I need to get to the bottom of is when I say for the ninety seventh time. To Return. And play the most violent eleven on eleven game there is. You have to have a form of strength and conditioning organized team activities and training camp. So for me to believe that. And think that it's a mid July ish return. Then, I might be wrong, but I mean again. I'm just guessing because. It's I got a little I got little preseason game steam over the weekend like the potential of there being zero preseason games. What okay? I got some zero preseason game steam this weekend. Aw, this stuff is so tight, lipped con. I mean it's An and you know. Be playing playing that game I ain't Doogie Man I. Walk into jump on the microphone and breaking. Story and then get to twitter and go breaking call and here it is and Doogie. doogie is incredibly good at it. Okay, that's you know my main man Doogie that that's what he does. He breaks news scopes. He's coupes, and I don't so I just tried to to be up to speed enough with certain topics, so that I can share accuracy and not speculation, and or guessing when we're talking about something like this involving the NFL well, this is awful. Because how are you? How awful well how are you going to get to wear? The unbelievable NFL licensed Brown's pullover that Kevin. Stefanski gave you. He mailed you by the way in the per and you, too. And how're you going to get to? Lake Eerie Pre preseason game number three driven. Put that thing on and Hug Kevin's too fancy. And put the photo on twitter so that you can help the station. When follow now I. Ain't I ain't. I interpret on that man I can't find box on the button bar. Lost another thing on the button. Okay, that's cool so there's much to share, but when the August Eleventh Hbo Bit. And they were loud about it per the work I've done per the work. I've done into the face or the faces of a very very tight lipped in the no community about the perceived time. The NFL will return. That just led me to okay. Why moving forward with Roger Pushes through the perch. Yeah, and we got a little out about that last week. Just about Goodell. The Commissioner Roger aims to push through this purge. The Empire remained silent. The Empire is silent like mandated. Here's what happens. If there's a leak and I find out. You were the origin of Lake. I'm guessing, but the empire remained silent, no lakes nothing Schefter, rappaport, Glazer, the the biggest of the big spots, a nobody coming out there with the we've caught wind. NFL teams will be returning by this date, and here's how it's GonNa work, it's it's all jacked up to a certain extent as my gas and when I say it's all jacked up. That involves decisions that are needing to be. Be made behind the scenes to get that announcement out there and get them back to facilities within a month there there there is more to share, and and specifically on the I wonder if things are jacked up behind the scenes, just a little bit there, there's more share on that. The Belmont stakes winner Tis. The law was nothing short of spectacular and I have an opinion. I'd like to share on that plus the non obvious questions involving a lot of national football league teams That's going to be. Addressed nine noon starting today, and you'll hear some of that. During the course of the week we find it to be very compelling but more on more on the return of the NFL and eventually attend three five with an Indian on the fly, just the update on the core, four NBA NHL MLB NFL a mad producer relieved that it's Paul Allen Good Morning. You're listening to a fan. A little three year old named a Tis the law one the twenty twenty Belmont stakes, the Belmont stakes. You know to start the triple crown tap to it as the leader Jazz, the laws catching up to him on the outside second. Then it's four left followed by pneumatic modernist on the site next at. Drexel Beaumont. Chance have taken charge. Step down to the final Vermont, but many Franco Jazz. Post has bumped up outside of the second new star, but as no York hero task. Done many Franko. Don't wind up Belmont stakes. Thank took it by four legs. Dr Who Second Best Player was third new medic was fourth the final time a Brung. It's forty six point five three second towboat celebrate. Wound, and now now now now that doubt victory was out of space as you hear Billy Preston was out of sight as you hear billy, Preston's out of space spunky is bleep. I gotTa Give Zach. BRAFF. As The law. Twenty Twenty Belmont stakes champion heard it on the Pam in in the business. We call it push-button. About! push-button in our game. About, a quarter a mile ago, the jockey looking all over for challenges, I mean just showing off and dominating. The horse was showing up, and that's that's ninety five percent of the equation is having the right equine athlete to take down a million dollar purse, but like from jockey standpoint you know as opposed to pump being flashing the the stick and coercing and Cajole lean whipping and stuff like that only so many things they can do when it comes to showing off I've just having called thirty five thousand races and seen jockeys on cinches at the top of the stretch you. You kinda know what you're looking for. While he was second into the far turn, I may or maybe third into the term hills into second, and then it was just like the jockey could just throw a leg up like yet his hands behind his head absolute coast. Yes, Finish Lot. What if you watch your back? It's not that compelling, but like for somebody who enjoys watching races like me when a rider at the top of the stretch is not in first, and he has his animal with the rains under a triple hammer locked, so the hands are not motioning and like. Like throwing as we say crosses to get the bit back up in the mouth, get can get this thing goes no struggle. Yeah, when they win, one looks over his left shoulder, and then looks over his right shoulder for challenges and all he can see is upstate New York, and then I push that button because he knows what he has underneath him that that that's the that's the real. That is the real nuance to what these writers do is they have clocks in their heads, so they know if they're out there in the Laden con is one hundred one on three to. To one shop because you found loan speed, and and this this horse opens up by three on the backstretch. Yeah, WE WANNA. Make sure you're not going like the wind, so you hit the proverbial wall of life with football field goal in the style that that's the real art to what these writers do with main drag racing is balancing the animal as long as they can hold hold hold tight reigns, top tight reigns tight reigns, yeah, or we go, and he pushed the button on that piece after looking, he looked over his left, or under his left and right shoulders or armpits. Showing off looking for challenges because he knew that ain't nobody beating me right now, so when when I look under my left armpit to see if there's a challenge somebody, better be flying or about ready to make history a clipping penalty related question jockey on these horses rapids is the law. Whoever yeah, how many times leading up to a race like this? How? How much have jockeys actually worked with these horses like if they they run around the track pushing that button in a in a virtual non-competitive standpoint, a hundred times, two hundred times, no, not that many when when you have a horse, who looks like he will sweep the triple crown, and then we get into the is a truly a triple. Triple Crown Victory and is there an Asterisk and we didn't starve at the Derby and the preakness last, and all that when when you ride horses like this I'd say what horses do during the course of a week is they have timed workouts? Okay, and those are published to the public, and it's either by themselves, or if they're inexperienced and like A. A two year old or a three year old who hasn't raced, they will race in teams, the like two or three horses all going to half mile, and then you can cut. The writers can tell who the best is by how much they have to ask how much they have to hold when you are Manny Franko, the Ryder of Disney law. I would imagine everything. This horse does is with him so now you win. The Belmont on a Saturday horse earns the right to chill in my opinion on the Sunday. Get that body right on a Monday while now Tuesday is not going to be you know because you're dealing with a twelve hundred pound animal on four tiny ankles, going thirty five miles per hour, and nearly said in Belmont track record. It's arduous on the body. Body you and I I ate half of banana cream pie on Saturday night. You asked me Sunday about my breathing I say it's bad well. I'm not Tis the Wa. I know I'm not a stakes winning anything for Tis the law I mean if you even if he even sneezes Sunday night. Nope, nothing on Monday. That's going Jilin. Your style put a guy. You're a call, but a couple of nights. Phillies around you. And stalled of last of the right what you dream for a little bit. Do what you gotTa do then we'll move the phillies. Get you back out on the track on Tuesday. Take the blinders off against. Let ends is wrong. Yeah, blinkers are off no saddles, your naked, and so are they. But the thing is there installs, and you can't get to them, so deal with that the entire day. Hey everybody handles the purge differently or act I. mean learn a lot about horses in the can never establish which one like I, said something day, three of the purge about peace in the purge, and then you did too, and I can never remember who said which one. I think I. said I think I said. s what I just said. And what did you say you learn a lot about people? You learn yeah, and then like, and then we did the door then we were set to do the draft show. Yes, we learned a lot about people in the burn. Absolutely did it was a fist bump? Man was just like knuckles, and we love each other wants more my finger. So if there's a Gallup on Tuesday yeah, where he just goes out and Gallup's loosens up probably the rider. If they're in the business, they do something called. This is a legitimate age-old horse racing term. They do something called the two minute lick. Average. Horses on horses trainers put them through the two minute lick. And what the Lick is! What do you do for the final ninety SEC? On this. Okay! Sorry. Yes, it's a real. This is real life eyeball Josh so two minute lick. Is You get the horse to go around the track a couple of times over two minutes. Okay, and you try to do it where you balance it in a way where you have not worn out the horse, but you have found productivity with a little non timed workout. We call the two-minute Lick, and so that's how maybe then Manny Franko knows okay. This is where he's at I can pull. I can push and ask I can give a signal, yeah. Well then, and then there's galloping, and then there's the timed workout. Okay, WE'RE GONNA. Break you off at the seven eight, though six for so from the the first turn, the seven furlong the work will go far turn the three-furlong, and that's the half minute drill, and then hot walk. You know they just walk around on rang like loose, Inaba, yeah, bath and everything and the Belmont stakes winner I'll take this philly over here I want this Philly next to me all these mayors, but them down the shadow. And just let them envision what's happening right now. the so with that said he was pushed button the the final time in that race, and it was the second off the Belmont track record for an island in eight, a second off an age old track record time now that there's more to this than I'll get into during the course of the week about you know the fact that the Derby the Kentucky Derby the most famous horse race in the world as a legitimate sporting event where it pulls the cons and the Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid, Al Maktoum's the ten of bees and everything. They know the Derby. They watched the Derby, it's it's the. The first Saturday, in September, the preakness closes the triple crown so now I can. Just I can just tell when my game and those looking to fill or kill segments outside of the game. They're going to have opinions on after. It's not if it's after Tis. The law sweeps the triple crown. Should he be considered with the luminaries like affirm, secretary and stuff like that? American Pharaoh as a triple crown, champion and the after doing some horse racing in triple Crown Related Research, the answer is absolutely yes, ooh, on I will explain that during the course of the radio show during the course of the week or never, descended with this that the the. Horse named Sir Barton Okay. Sir Barton is widely considered the first triple crown winner in like nineteen nineteen. Okay, while the sequence back then may have started with the preakness, so derby into preakness into Belmont has not always been the case, and it's just a lot of things that go into it, the Belmont distances, different but guess what in Twenty Twenty Year of the purge. We can't not only can we not have bands at races to watch or games or whatever, but the sequence happens to be out of order for a reason, it's not the first time. The sequence of the triple crown has been out of order, and those who have won it have been credited as triple ground champions, the Belmont being mylan Nathan, not a mile and a half. Half I can hear that but to go from a mile and an eighth, and then for Saturday in September you get up to a mile and a quarter to the Derby. And then I think a month later you cut back to the speedy, a mile and three sixteenth at at preakness that that's arduous that that is a very very challenging thing to do. But he was at, it was nothing short of spectacular He's an incredibly incredibly a special horse and and hopefully people who watch did this weekend will follow him for Saturday in September with the Kentucky Derby because quite honestly unless something else jumps up, he's going to annihilate. Any three year old in the country at a mile and a quarter just annihilate them. can't wait to watch Nine to noon continues around the corner, allowing Brian Heating and cooling studios. Era. Now. The the. 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Said Canterbury Park Dot Com if you'd like to, your reservations, to to the race track. Track which resumes tomorrow for some live racing in the neighborhood of four three zero. I would assume this is the this is the every Monday update on the core for essentially, yes, meaning baseball, basketball, hockey and NFL, and here's the mad producer. Thou let's start with the NFL so with training. cavs VIA ESPN memo was sent out to the teams themselves creating tiers of access in facility. There was. An update over the weekend while I was steamrolling. Yes, there was Whoa, so the teams themselves are tasked with developing an infectious disease emergency response plan and I. D E R plan, and that's about protocols containing the outbreak. All of those things within these team facilities themselves so. What the organizations must do is separate them into tears that define where people can go and what they can do and each team's ide- are will be subject to review and approval by the NFL the players. Association and the Infection Control for sports formally known as the Duke Infection Control Outreach, network, It's big acronym. Over that'd be. That'd be dicon. Die What nothing there were so many clipping penalties. At at at my house on Saturday. About I mean it's very hard. It's impossible on the radio. To describe? said CL- clipping penalties there came a point in my existence on Saturday. I actually researched what it took to change. My name to add hockey league I always loved that one. Took me a second to get there I. Don't know why. The purge learn a lot about people. Saturday, Saturdays or chill quiet peaceful kids be squared away. Sarah's off on a turnaround plan Gamblin. WHO's But now it was apathetic to that Saturday there. I changed my name to Burn Cougar. Flags all over the field. Hey, ever ever endured that. Where you know. Away from work their flags all over the field, unsportsmanlike conduct, sometimes some unnecessary route route Nesbitt at all is in the family of the clipping penalty. Right where the WORKWEEK is significantly shorter than the weekends. Oh. Yes, yes. I have experienced that for lead. You elaborate. No, thank you, okay. The NFL is remember that pool. You want anyway go ahead. Dad. I'm. Tens good halfway through. The NFL has defined the tier system three tiers so tier one will consist of players, coaches, trainers, physicians, necessary personnel kind of tier. One the guys that actually got to be on the field right so those those are the a class VIP's in terms of football, being on the field and participating. The tier two will consist of GM's operations assistant coaches video personnel security, other essential folks who may need to be in close proximity to the players and other tier. One individuals now tier three involves the play by play announcers right well. Let's get to tier. Three is Great Tier Three by this stage. I'm not there. Thanksgiving will consist of certain operational personnel in house media and broadcast personnel. Field manager transportation providers and individuals who perform essential facility stadium or event services. Your salary tier three. Bus Five. We'll be where the broadcast personnel would be in the mix now the key to all of this, of course yeah, established this tier system, and it's kind of it's. It's a part of the unofficial portion of summer preparation and putting everything together, but as part of tier three. It appears as though you would not be allowed to be on the field. You may have to enter the building at a different time or use a different point of access than Tier One and tier to understand that and potentially temperatures. In all of those things but yeah. Tier threes in the. CAST personnel the announcer. Quote Unquote. Lebron James Claim King. Refers to himself as the announcer. You are tier three, but you are at the party. Okay, go ahead and laugh. I'm not laughing, head and laugh. That I'm not going to be that. I might not be on the field under the cover of darkness with nobody else their memorizing cameron dancers number right because then we're going to fast forward to the regular season and I'm not gonNa have Camden, slurs number wrote like I usually. Usually wouldn't I'm GonNa make a mistake and rely on the spot, or who's cheering that Harrison hand indeed is the one that made the interception as I'm calling the guy tiny dancer, and and then I'm going to get mad at you, and because I will crack in the purge, you will not be permitted to return to the vox box the remainder of the twenty twenty season. Is it everybody cracked. Days little bit whether it's on social media. It's realized the weeping and gnashing of teeth, the regarding and teach their own. The vitriolic nature from mid-march to where we are now of social media is. It keeps me away from social media. It's apocalyptic. Yeah, it has kept me away. From, twitter. Simply, you know unless there's something that that I feel needs to be done or I glance at it for thirty five seconds and I see some nice things and I go like or you did. Something Bothers Day related gesture. Whatever I know I like that that that was the only time I looked at twitter yesterday. Yeah, it's the right way to live, and and why with all due respect to those tweeting at me as they say in the business or Generally speaking, what would be some things that I would follow the vitriolic nature of the finger-pointing Oh and those self righteousness and. Sitting back and waiting. For a proverbial shoe to drop, so they can comment in run fashion and amend their lawn. It's I'm not saying it's right on saying it's wrong. I'm not saying it's needed or unneeded. Yeah, I'm saying vitriolic. Nature. Of of that will keep me away and I'm not. It's not like I'm going to delete my account I mean what would the Kfi am? Account do if I didn't re tweeted and help me get followers I. always loved that one but So that's that man? Yeah, let's let's push the the rest of the core of the next I just got to let you know. EXURBIA roads no longer on the team. Chris Boyd now number twenty nine. Average. The that's the only number change trains give it to me no longer on the team. A hold on boy. Chris Boy Twenty, nine, twenty, nine, twenty, nine, twenty nine boy, twenty nine boy, twenty nine got new. That can't see practice GonNa Laugh at me. Now I'M GONNA. Make mistakes or have this pulled for me when. In, August, you're looking to steal opinions that are formulated before the show, but I don't have them because I'm not there, but actually. What are you GonNa? Do trae Wayne's not on the team number twenty six. Nate Matters Long. Made, matters Lambeau. ooh. Geronimo Allison one of his only two. Td's of the season a Raj. I, mean he? He didn't know who he was. So he must have looked in the huddle, and then like rubbed his hands together like Bella check when the first person at a runny nose and Wuhan knowing he could get an advantage with the virtual draft I think he looked over at Zimmer, and actually pointed nate matters, and he's like. Are you going to come and get your guy here? You're going to call a timeout Jim I. Think this is the problem. I think that was. The only played played all year. God bless him. He's now to six metres to six metres matters matters to sixty six, and then Jay wrong curse no longer with the Vikings to hammer and dance ller. Twenty seven so. Let's work on those. We got some Y. we've got a while to get the spotter in play and ready to go pick off trubisky tiny Dan Slur van. Do this for me. 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Put some time into it because Friday got tired of guessing and radio wise cracking the purge for profit and it was so tight lipped, and and I mean it's like. They're they're pushed on I pushed on a good one who would have answers over the weekend for certain questions crickets, and by the way it was via a taxed because I can trust that individual with tax, and I pushed on something crickets in fact. I was left unread I always no one left on red. They have read receipts and they did not get back to you know. WHAT KICK I channeled my inner seventeen year old boy or girl, and I started going back through the text. AC- of the other said delivered. Said delivered. This one I purposely was put on Rad. No, don't tax me that again. Place my gone so the the. It's tight lipped. Roger Pushes through the purge. That's still the that's still the belief. Yeah, twenty-six team still have their training camps at to start on July twenty eight. Okay, all of that appears to be normalcy. The Empire Remind Remain Silent, no lakes nothing, but we do have the tier related terrorism. and. July win for training. Camp Twenty Eighth Okay so July twenty eight isn't that's right in the mix of normal? Training, Camp Start Days. Twenty Twenty six veterans report this that and the other thing that that I'm just going to move forward. Conceding I'm wrong that you do not need strength and conditioning. You do not need organized team activities I think you do that. that that you don't that you can just show up and. And stretch out your arms go a great to be back I. Mean if you don't have strength and conditioning, and you don't have any sort of someone organized minicamp on site and then you're not going to have a preseason game, and you are stepping on an NFL field against an adversary for the first time week. One which for us would be September thirteenth. Yeah, border battle in maybe a fan less US bank stadium. I mean that that's a disaster. I mean that that's absolutely i. mean the quality of Football. Yeah, we're going to see for the first quarter of the season. We'll be hideous. Yeah, I think, and maybe that is a overreaction I don't know, but it feels weird I. don't like it now I. Know You're right. I mean it's. It's that you know you you are. Are Casting your gaze the way of a mid August conversation, but by then we will know what we have had, and they will be back, you know the majority of people will be back like like Zimmer. Less something changed. He's still a northern Kentucky and it's. It's mandatory minicamp. Time which I think has come and gone, so we get the virtual nature of it. But it's I just always said believe even even a truncated version of strengthening conditioning and organized team activities, and Hey, you know what Roger Roger Outside of the schedule has hit all the dates and seriously who doesn't think this this commissioner is going to push birch hat. How you will you two? Of. The eleven eleven and mcvay and harbaugh both hit on it last week, and when the HBO bid came out. For Aug, Eleven Sean McVeigh because he's part of it and then John Harbaugh I saw both their quotes. They were both like I'm confused. It's we have social distancing protocols that are taking place in ninety percent of our workplace and requests professionally and stuff. You can't socially distance in eleven on eleven football now, and when a quarterback runs to the sideline, and is chatting during the course of the game with coach or coordinator about the play and then runs back. That's not even even subtleties like that, so they seriously were like. What are we doing here? How is this going to work? I can't answer it, you know or what if what turtles on the sidelines with? With with two water bottles, and now players come off to the sideline. They need to be refreshed. Yeah, so how are you going to manage the water bottle over the course of a game? Yeah, Terrell Barnyard, baby turtle, the man who part of the part of the equipment team, the guy that runs faster than some of the players do. Yeah, while helping orchestrate all activities and practices all I mean that that. I mean that potentially leads to or you. Just you gotta get back with these people and actually have like adult face to face conversation six feet away. If you're comfortable, if you WANNA, wear masks I. will whatever you WanNa. Do whatever makes you comfortable. I'm here to respect you Zimmerman, and I'm here to help. You can eat stay calm. Yeah, so, but you can't. You can't like make jokes like this around certain people until you know how they have watt. Dealt with it handled the per. Yes, because there I mean we're going to get an influx, and some would say an infiltration of people who have had a right to be at their workplace, but could not be at their workplace, and now they're returning to their workplace, which at times provides normal stress, pre purge, or whatever, and now like people, Whoa, Hey, keep your distance what it's all about skin so like when you talk about Durell and the Barnyard baby turtle is part of Dennis Ryan's equipment staff fly sometimes. Specifically with two of them Terrell and Adam. At rony? Yes, it's I. Don't know where. This long standing leader of the equipment staff Dennis Ryan like a half decade of equity. I mean Dennis Ryan. Century backward half-century. Thank you Dennis Ryan Shined Fran Tarkenton Helmet. Okay, that's how long he's been around. So it's like when you want to make jokes like this and just have fun. You GotTa make sure people come out of the purge. Okay, true like what you said about Barnyard Baby, the turtle. He's unbelievably fast and a he's the one who with the with the tea or whatever whatever's on the field run out and get it and run back. for for the kickoffs. Okay? Well I mean when he runs out. Does he have to run out with a mask? Does the protocol take us so far that he has to be informed. Who touched the t before he touched it? And is the T- that thing that the holder for the football on kickoffs Is it going to be stored in like a place? They store puck sore. The Stanley Cup for the Lombardi wear now. Somebody brings it out now. BARNYARD babies got to bring it up gloves right. He's the only one that can touch it. And it takes place bone Minnesota Vikings. Twenty twenty weird season is in the air while barnyard strict. He's the one striking out to get running back yet, but when I say perspires on the T. because he's running out to the tea and he sweating. What if the perspiration? Only. It comes down and hits, and it's on the tea, and is that what you meant? Yeah, yeah, like the actual. That's problem. That's a fair. That needs to be included in the Duke's the dykes whatever you laid out. What was the dyke thing you laid out? It's The d I C. O, N, the Do infectious disease. Okay, outreach something needs to be included network, but secondly. You're right. He is lickety-split vast so fast that there have been some players who have played certain skill positions over the years. Where I've just you know I've looked at that? And then it takes us back to what I think was twelve, maybe twenty thirteen. And I can't exactly remember who the quarterbacks were, but I do remember it was Christian ponder, yeah, and Joab, and maybe one other where there was just a you know, add atom growney one of the equipment. Guys has an unbelievable laser for an arm of we. We've chatted about him with Jad greenway on the on the Friday football feast. Occasionally, he's the Guy I see on the field playing catch with the receivers before Kirker. Somebody'll come out. Very athletic build hose for an arm as they would say, throws it forty-five flat-footed with E. Yeah, but see there was there was a time in two thousand twelve where I'd be watching him a training camp throw passes and I would say to somebody. Might have been into thirteen twenty thirteen I. Think we won three Games so-and-so. Have a problem when Adam the equipment guys arm is better than any quarterback on roster right now. I always loved that one and Barnyard baby runs the forty better than players ABC and day I. Always Love that and we need them to win games I mean that has popped up. Yes, you got a credit equipment. Immortality, Dennis Ryan for a half century of equipment, excellence and hiring. Athletes. His personnel has never been called into question now than you got Air Newman. Who's just up his nails, so yeah, that's phenomenal so nfl can't make a prediction. What's next oh? Yes, to the NBA so now the NBA of course all set July thirtieth play in tournament, all of those things. But now there are rising concerns. Over testing spikes in the state of Florida. They're going to be in a bubble, so they will be in a bubble, but Florida added more than four thousand new positive cases on Saturday, which broke the previous single day record of thirty, eight hundred, which was such as the day before on. Friday, so that's nearly eight thousand new cases just in a two day stretch into this last weekend. Yeah, and the. The state has set records for single cases in seven of the past ten days, and is approaching ninety four thousand positive infections, which makes it a national hotspot along with Texas, and Arizona again The the mad producer is on top of this markedly closer than I. Don't have. We have the most test distributed or testing capability of anywhere in the world. The United States. Yeah Yeah I believe so okay, so therefore inherently if there are more tests, the numbers would be inherently higher. Yes, and kind of given the nature of this virus. Is you start opening things up? chapel would inevitably come in contact with the virus would naturally be arising cases. Are you comfortable if I ask you? I'll do between breaks. I'm not sure you're comfortable sharing on the radio. Lay it out like this. It's those who say I hope I get. Just just like like that mindset, but continue okay. Yeah, we can talk about that next thing on the radio. I'm cool with that all right. Do you hope you get it? I don't know I. DON'T WANNA. Get it I. Want nothing to do with this freaking virus, and I ain't GonNa be the one who's going to sit there and I'll get it so therefore. It's in and out gone. I got no I. DON'T WANNA. Get it say it's unbelievable say. Unbelievably bad, and and you know what I'm saying. Yeah, and the thing is I mean at age thirty five I'm comfortable. Going out and living life and death is not the first thing on my mind, but I'm just me, so other people have different mind as regards to that I mean by admission. You're selfish with bad. Even, if it's if I got new eleven times a day made you laugh. It's been a good Monday. There's no doubt if if if I if I get it. And I'm like most people and never even know that I have it and just normalcy ensues, and then I no longer have it. All good life goes on, but it's not like I. Want to have a fever. It's not like I. WanNa, have any form of flu. Yeah, three weeks of breathing related problems, and there are some things people get over this thing. If they get a bad case of it, yeah I already our problems from the for now I'm not laughing at that I'm. I'm not laughing okay. A section disclaimer. Do we still have it? Oh, absolutely. Can you just hit it quickly? The following statements born of love nine to noon check raisin lives that way we respect all infected affected by the pandemic. We pray, and feel for those in the belly of the beast during the rights in our community, we asked questions in search of answers and solutions to problems all of us which air opinions based on sincere thought and back by our. Our experience from a position of arrogance or politics humanity not to confront, but to converse. We are here to learn and help if we can. This is in no way making light of a once of a lifetime potentially pandemic, going to be good. It isn't I mean four, and it's also not playing off your joke about your breathing. beat you know because of the way you eat. Eight where I subscribed to as I've said profile by pop, Dr Yeah and I'm going hard core profile by Sanford again to get myself back on the post purge Yup visible thing. I eight as I texted you Saturday evening. I single handedly eight half of banana cream pie. Myself on Saturday night. Yeah, it was awesome, and it was peaceful and yeah. I know regrets. You inhaled it, so this is this. In very slowly in the purge, so you can appreciate things so therefore we normally would have taken six minutes took twelve Gotcha now. This is in no way to to make light of anything, but when it comes to the I, hope I get it or whatever might even have had it. I just really knock on wood. If you believe that I really hope. For, whatever the reason that like with you? Okay? If if you come down with the fever chills, shortness of breath everything that goes into the bed like I get tested four five now tested temperature check four five times a week. Yeah, because of my job, standard of the building specifically at the racetrack. So. I just hope with you. It doesn't happen. Why July nine? Or July. July eight. have one I don't want to be moving. With. No you have to be quarantined. Awful know AAA movers. has you covered with the move? Yeah, so that is next step now. You think AAA movers. With or without the ten percent kfi in discount or the moving boxes or the declutter program. Yeah, you think they want anything to do with being around you. They know that they'll handle it. You're out. There in year out for fourteen days. Yeah, that'd be terrible which Maine's why sets up new place? Oh, no empties boxes nothing to do late. Father's Day resents me for all of it. Yeah but I mean and potentially sick and potentially say yeah so I. Don't know it's just weird. Now think about on the purge, and that's what they're thinking about right now. So largely regarding the NBA in Orlando Orange County in particular, and I believe part of Osceola County both located in central Florida, they have not been hit as hard as south beach where the vast majority of those cases are, but it's something that Adam silver is noted that. That? They're paying attention to, but again ultimately despite disneyworld being open they do believe that there bubble concept is going to Go into, continue on. They're going to push through it. Their thing and lock everybody governor is just pushing through. The puzzle Disentis is a lot of people love them. A lot of people are annoyed with them, but That's how the State of Florida has chosen to do things now I don't want I, don't you know? We. We have joked about that the ideal about that. That's why we did the disclaimer, but the idea of it is is for a lot of these people. There's many many many many many many things that from a statistic point of view that these players may find ultimate peril with from a statistical standpoint more likely than this virus. So you know at some point, how comfortable are players quote? Unquote, pushing through the purge and we're gonNA find that out as we've heard positive tests in college sports, you ask the Commissioner of the big ten battery. That's a hot topic and it's absolutely what we see. See now is polarizing breaking news anytime. We hear members of the cowboys tested positive zeke Elliott one of them. WHOA! What's going on down in Fort Worth well? Yeah, but see it's gotTa. Take it to the college bit because it's the closest comp lsu quarantine thirty players. Yeah, who tested positive right? Okay Bama, all them might have been the case date or whatever, but they're the players. Clemson had twenty three or twenty six different players testing positive right, but see that when I say it's like there are not concrete dates, but HBO came out with this number. Yeah, like you said twenty six teams are still. Married to like July twenty six for training camp, but I think because there's. There's just nothing official here. I think there's some things behind the scenes that are a little jacked up right now. Well I think they are too and ultimately I have not heard of any of these players being hospitalized I, know I. Don't know if you've heard anything that I haven't heard any of that. We know that they tested positive. We knew as as things opened up. We'd see more positive cases, and to the point about a hoping you get it. I mean some of these college. Players might be under the mindset like okay tested positive for quarantine me for two weeks late. June looks like I should be in the clear by the time off or September rolls around. I don't know where people's mindsets are on that ultimately. I would assume nobody wants to get sick with this thing any anything enclosing here baseball, anything baseball or like. Oh, it's the same the the whole thing socks. They were going to vote on Sunday or over the weekend on that sixty game proposal that we heard about last week. Yeah, and but then Manfred rolls out and sends an email saying given the cova developments. I understand that the players are concerned that the twenty twenty season will be truncated beyond the agreed number. Number of games. For example we agree to play. Sixty can only play forty. If that were to happen, I'd be prepared. This is Manfred again to eliminate the twenty twenty one components of the deal that means that there would be no expanded playoffs agreed to in two, thousand, twenty, one and no universal d. h. rule, so they would return to normalcy in two. Two Thousand Twenty one, if any part of this already truncated season was further interrupted in relation to the virus, so the players were set to vote on the sixty game proposal yesterday. Yeah, they're d'alene, though after that email, and ultimately all the training camps have been closed because of those recent task. At least some members of the phillies maybe Astros, some other organizations have. Have had some positive test recently so there again. The positive tests are really putting a wrench into a lot of the idea of moving forward bubble or no bubble right, and how they're able to handle it, and that's where we're at with these leagues Yep and more from an NFL standpoint on that and much more nine to noon nine to new around the. BANSTEAD Brings Back Memories some, please? Take a load off who? Load up that Daddy. Young Man. He convert be saying then we get together like this and it will go. Chang Alot Dow Teddy. Chang. For Free It'll, be Adrian Jacobs load off Daddy. Put the load ride on ride on a P. Yes, take a load off F farther in one. Part Than One and here comes daddy my time for Teddy Rodney Smith. Welcome to the spotlight young man. Fifteen was such. A fun season ended horribly. Yeah, obviously. What was descript about Twenty fifteen? College Stadium Yes last year at the College Stadium. we'll get the walls piece at the end. I can't remember. We played in the first game of the season. Adrian led the League in Rushing Twenty fifteen. He did you did how many yards you gas thirteen hundred I think he had fourteen, fifty, one, four, five zero. Okay. So that was fifteen, but you have the cool win in against the the Jeff Fisher lead rams where Zimmer, intentionally while winning the overtime coin toss preferred to choose the side of the field to defend versus getting possession of the ball, given the wind situation down memory lane. We Go skull stories out of nowhere continue well I believe it was. It was a going west to east. That was just nearly impossible. Forgive which direction. So falls. It was going east to west because I remember after Zimmer won the toss. I do recall falls needed to go left to right as we saw it. Yeah, which would be to the East? I think now that also was the game. Mike, Zimmer ran thirty yards out on the field and challenge Greg Williams to a fight while teddy got knocked out by lamarcus, joyner and Zimmer wanted to fight Greg Williams and he may have and who doesn't want to fight Greg, Williams, but you had let me see here. Load off. Daddy Chad Greenway, ninety one of the house in the chargers game week two. Yeah, okay, you're, so you're going to go. Top of the head. Here was coal stories. I'm going top of the head so. Then I will get me Now we're going. Okay okay so you identified to. Keep looking at me Jenn cheating con. I got nothing on the computer screen over there. Two lines of identified week nine. Yeah, twenty, one eighteen biking's when College Stadium Zimmer non obvious and a work. Week Number One, two, thousand, fifteen, which I remember. Because, I don't remember it. it, you know it was a nondescript season to me. Outside of the wait ended up lays. Yes, at least I left home. Turn your phone. Replace phone phones down. Yes, the the eightieth text she sent you, she can wait till eleven fifty five k We Lost Week. One on the road west coast. it's the battery and in the Bay with Jim Tom Soula back you twenty two three. Yes, now the the hints are going to get progressively less. Got You ready? Yeah, week to we came home to the College Stadium beat somebody by ten. Beat somebody by ten. It's the Lions Twenty Six ten was the point six sixteen was the final jam. Let's go you down memory lane. We go up into collapse for nailing the score. Yeah, week three. We were at home. We won thirty one fourteen blew out the chargers and Philip Rivers, and that was the greenway. Yes, it was ninety one yard pick six. Okay so they. took it and took it l.. Now. We're two in one. Ain't no stopping us now. Yeah, so October four, th significant for many reasons in twenty, fifteen. A we lost, the game. Be! It was on the road against an AFC team and we lost twenty three twenty. Two zero one five. Oh, it was the NFL debut. Stefan digs at mile high running circles around a Kissel to Lizl Adrian. Peterson absolutely goes super stupid on TJ Ward, who was untouched to Teddy Aj trip dow excuse me. Peterson tripped out on his blitz pickup responsibility. Joe's to run around instead of blocking TJ. corrrect and TJ ended the game strip sack on Teddy, and they're also was one very descriptive moment from that game. That is non obvious while Anthony Barr picked off Peyton, manning and memory lane. We go I gotta give you a hard for everybody. Bar picked off right right right in front halftime. Yeah, was it and throw. Throw it right to him all right then we come home that twenty fifteen beat Kansas. City sixteen ten Everson Griffen was an incredibly late scratching that game at the Lions. They wanted feel goals. They went twenty, eight nineteen the first touchdown on digs is career. The leaping in the air endzone grabbed by the way from teddy was like thirty six yards. Okay at Chicago Week Eight That's a walk off winner. I win since two thousand seven at soldier field. You hit rams at raiders after that that was Cordeiro Patterson running a kick return for a touchdown. He broadcast freaked out and nobody earned. It must not have ever happened. And then let me see here Adrian Peterson puts the game on ice with an eighty of the house fourth quarter. What about the The under the radar? Private Trust matters most non obvious NORV in that game. From nor Yup. Okay, first of all North's pissed off, because because he got teddy and you got Derek Carr and the majority of people are looking at certain metrics intent whatever and they're like. Yeah, it was a complete whiff on teddy and not Derek Carr Okay and some may still believe that M. maybe that is the right answer but norb the offensive coordinator and his son Scott The quarterbacks coach all week. They were dead set to prove that this quarterback. We have for what. What we do you? Can you vitriolic from a vitriolic nature or whatever guns they would ever you want? Yeah, we don't care about you. about raising this quarterback and we're going to show that if only for a game, this quarterback is better than that quarterback. And they did now, nor had an approach that was taken that I shared privately with you, but then shared during the game call when I knew I could share it. It was norms approach to taking on. Oh. Damn it. Collect. Colette Yosemite. No, no, no, no, no, no! That's. All I'm thinking about right now is terence. Newman had two picks in the game. Okay! Liam Oh Khalil Mack and all. All Smith Right. Wow, all and then Alden Smith Yeah played since that you. Do is Khalil Mack not only are we gonNA run at him. Yeah, every time we run out here work in two thousand eighteen, but when Adrian lowers his his pads, and there's contact Adrian will be delivering the head Yup, and by the way in front of Adrian will be at least two guys right other will be an offensive lineman. Annotate end or somebody in somebody, and we're going to run at these guys and we're GonNa do the best we can specifically. Specifically with Khalil worse going to go and bounce all out of the League and we're GONNA. Do the best we can with Calill, and we're going to beat on him. With the running game impound bound bound bound bound. No, he did over the long play eventually worked, and they won the game okay, so one through so now whoa! We're only like six and three. At that point. Her seven inches to into week eleven where we hosted the Green Bay, packers. Twenty fifteen or I think we lost that game eleven. You think what I think. We lost that game. Thirty, two thirteen green bay comes out on top I can't remember a thing about it absolutely smacked us and I feel like we scored an early touchdown maybe at Atlanta all. We one twenty to ten I think Anthony Barr chase down a Campbell in that game. Oh, was that the game like Kevin Coleman? Early early stages of his career Antone Xm Antone exum forced. It had something big. Tevin Coleman. Yes, was look at us. Go now. Absolutely we go now. We need football week thirteen Seattle here. That's the. God bless Darryl Flash. Four, he's high stepping to the end zone in the midst of a thirty eight to seven. Beat down or your memories. UNBELIEV Anton Antone exum did have a force fumble in that game as well. Okay, here's the key to that game. I don't believe Harrison Smith. Might have been bar. We had like three game changing starters out in that game I. I don't think Lindvall played that game either. Yeah, well, they were saving all of them for the postseason Iraq. Yes, so your your recall on like core Daryl high stepping into the end zone, and doing the vikings vall leap, and we're losing by thirty points. We lose thirty eight avenues ridiculous, but you'll recall on the score. Your score and the scores is fantastic. Hey, those of you. You and your car's rubes and cubes. If you're permitted to being accused play along with us, we are recalling twenty fifteen, and for yours truly just how nondescript the season was except for Walsh missing wide left I think from twenty-seven and housing us an opportunity to go to to go to Arizona and I want her so speaking of Arizona. We're at Arizona Week Fourteen Marvin Strip sack again. It was the second strip sack and I forget which side it came off of. But it was either it wasn't twenty. Maybe it was twenty, three, twenty, again or twenty, two, seventeen, one, eight, three twenty. You nailed it. hit with a couple of non obvious. Yeah, we we, we are raising raising and training you and us. Yeah, to become masters of the non off, so here's here's the problem with that game. THOUGH IS J G and I were on the plane to Philly for Army Navy as the game was taking place on Thursday night there was a Thursday night and we were in the towncar on our way to the hotel as teddy got. Strips Yep thanks for the update on that appreciate. It couldn't care less. Lil got run around I. Believe by Chandler Jones at the near the or somebody ran around him at the end of the game. How many times is he heard US spanaway and Terence Newman had to play safety yes. Anthony Harris I think made his starting debut. That's right, but we were down. I mean. We were it was unbelievable. How many players we were down Okay, so now we got three to go bears at home winter loss That's a win and teddy had four touchdowns in that game, maybe potentially five totally through four and ran one in a good you. Stefan, believe had two of those the penultimate twenty fifteen week sixteen a home. Home game against the giants, yes, and that would be Harry the Hitman to the House Harry the Hitman I believe tied or broke the team record for pick sixes with four. It's the last one he's had okay, so we wanted to get Harry in the end zone again. Yeah, we got the king went off in that game. Situation with Harry's getting Harry. Okay, and then we close at lambeau field week seventeen. This was easy. I just gotTA. Find the. Dr. freaked out I just I was looking for flag. It's so cute and so why do you love when I fail? I don't love it when you fail. You are on point and are where you are for a reason for many reasons and. Once in a while. Yeah, well, you got to set it up. If you're going to share my al my verbal L.. In what was a division playoff clinching game and call? Yeah, it was a win in, and it's super cold and my voice ain't responding how just but I just want to explain on this last play? Yeah, okay, what you're about to hear with me, saying something that never has been offered in the history of the national football league, involving a final play, and it's not an and he's loose, a fresh four, a cold, blooded connection, a left in the wake of teen turn of speed. It's none of all that no, it just clock related. Yeah, it was clock related because I thought the clock. What the play clock was down zero and two zero before the snap was made right and green. Bay's at home. So I'm conditioned to believe they're gonNA get breaks underrated aspect of you. Calling this game by the way is when pattern. Goes to the House on a fumble recovery, and the captain became a general. Okay, so that was that was the awesome part that hunting I just surrogates on okay. Our surrogate nephew I do stink I. Do want you to know Ding Dong. Because you're trying to embarrass me with these messed up. Play calls than you don't have to compliment me. It's fine. Yeah, okay, thick-skinned did fail. Knock racking and purge at peace since day three. Let's hear it. Okay here's the final to play three Rogers. Fires left caught Richard Rodgers stopped at the thirty eight yard line by Xavier Rhodes they have no time outs. Five, four, three, two, one, and Rogers gets the playoff according to everybody. passed. Deep left to the end zone. Gains Bar NFC. Oh my God. What was that? But what made you laugh was the according to everybody? Make no sense. Understand me. Everybody isn't who I mean. You got like Kim kilometer guy outside the stadium. The fans everyone got the quick huddle and decided that it was okay. Continue with the play, please. Okay, so barnyard baby was he involved in the everybody game out spearfish Sammy delete. Did he give Hockey League? The thumbs up playing according to everybody. Okay so we beat them next week. Seven di was ten nine. We lose to the super chickens on the field goal that sale wide, left split a rap on the show with Nardo and yours truly sharing some pertinent, unbelievably calm, complicated, confrontational and controversial sports related information that's come through fad. Generally until tomorrow. Tomorrow. Very well Julie. Wait I can't wait until tomorrow. Tomorrow Model Canal, come, I? I. We have one of these covenant cleanup pop provided by. Absolutely nobody. Check those rates lately one part of that Covenant Cleanup Covenant Cleanup, provided by it is a covenant. Cleanup sponsored endorsed client to fide by. David, Peterson. You are an elite football mind. David Peterson thank you for listening to nine to noon and emailing both at KFI IN DOT com. because. He pointed out your surely as we're off the cuff. We in incredibly people meter moving. Compelling and undoubtedly winning fashion. We started with Game One of the Twenty fifteen viking season. You know we we kind of like went non obvious with all the Games of I'm sure just. Tens of thousands of people were so riveted on what happened week thirteen in twenty fifteen. They all stayed. Families huddled around their smart speaker. Yeah, Copyright Dan, call the common man billy Johnny. Suzy, come on in. Gather around the radio. It's time for Dan Cole the Common Man on the program. I aired regarding teddy in Arizona, and Governor Cleanup was provided by David Peterson and elite football mind writes. I'm going off pure memory so I could be wrong, but I think it was H.. O. F., Dwight Franey, who got the Strip Zach on Teddy in Arizona? A wasn't it was frontside on Khalil? Though wasn't it? It I'M NOT GONNA. Push my lock in anymore in the purge, involving front or backsides. so. It was raining I it I i. don't eat a lot I know it was right for any that. No I'm cool with that Bat. I want to see whether it was Khalil and I'm trying to visit. Load Holt. The right tackle in two thousand fifteen. What I look like Alex Gibbs. What all look like clancy? Brown? When did he idea well? He took that Al with. Billy's buddy we I might have been one of nineteen players at route that game to go down there Adrian's full of fury, and we're trying to win the game against Carson Palmer. and was for not so now tomorrow nine to noon. Techy in-studio. What else does he have to do and with that? Baseball and I mean mom I. Just hope something happens soon with baseball, so we get one of cons breadcrumbs that lead to one of my croutons and lead to everybody's loaves of Brad. Fishes and loaves. That's what we're looking for. We want to dine on on by fastball. Faith, fishes and loaves, and we just WANNA get into it, and and see some games that lead to WS anals. I know that's taking place tomorrow. Florio was some football conversation that feels like it'll will take place tomorrow and I. You know because I, wrote it up and I do want to get into it more when I say I'm wondering from an NFL standpoint. IS ANYTHING ALL JACKED UP? Yeah, behind the scenes and a like to say that and say it with conviction where earlier I was like I'm telling you things are all jacked up. It's the way I should have put it was. When it comes to the NFL and exact dates when all teams can return training camp stain on time. I would put a one percent on all I put a five percent and all four preseason games. Now, I'm going to do that, but why should I do that I mean. Why should I do that EV- HBO Goes August Eleventh were in two six sixteen. Still have that late. July thing set so I mean it's. Do we believe Roger Pushes through the purge or do we believe he circumnavigates the perch because the circumnavigation would permit you to whack preseason games. Yep, the pushing through. Get you all four now. One key here is owners because of the the NFL. T bet like. Like I do Vikings TV in the preseason for two or three games or four, because they're not TV deals with like national networks, so teams can have their own guys do them and then pay their own guys, so there's a lot a lot of what goes into preseason. Games is a major major owners. Scoop right. Okay, this this is this is about this is an owner. Scoop players. Don't start getting paid until regular season game number. What so maybe pushing through the perch? In non obvious fashion, because that's how we got to look at it involves the commissioner pushing through the purge with. Anybody ever say there wouldn't be four preseason games all right and the hall of fame. Game what are, they gonNA. Do Hall of Fame Game Steelers in Kabul much more chat on that tomorrow. Great job today, but He's Eric Nordquist and Paul. Allen thank you very much for listening to my radio show and to FM one hundred point three. Kfi Am mad producer rap show. Thanks to Metro Four. Metropolitan, Ford for sponsoring the nine to noon. Show wraps customer, service, satisfaction, saving safety and fun actress cars. Hey Roger Goodell you can't fight the urge to put down the pedal down. Push through the per sports. Try to return. We all hope for the best, but gotta come to terms with some positive best. It's like we knew this would happen. And then we forgot we can't stay at home for two years. Certainly not looking forward to real. 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HR 2: What to expect from the Lakers vs. the Clippers?

Mason & Ireland

43:45 min | 10 months ago

HR 2: What to expect from the Lakers vs. the Clippers?

"All right hour number two of mason and ireland underway ramona. Shelburne information as. I've been mentioning. I've started to do homework. Momo for clippers lakers preseason showdown this weekend. They play on friday and again on sunday of both games at staples center. Remember all the games. Last year it happened in the orlando bubble after the league was shut down so these will be the first games at staples center since march. And i'm wondering. I know you talked to both ownerships groups in both teams. I don't know as they started to do my homework for this. I don't know how much i should expect or will at all see like the big big stars in the preseason. You lebron ad paul george and kawhi play at all in the preseason games the bubble you know like those first eight games. The lakers played in the bubble. We were like ooh we. Should we worry about this. Because they don't look so good and then it'd be like that they'll play. They'll play twenty minutes thirty minutes twenty to twenty and thirty get a little. You know sweat in regular run. But i don't think they're gonna. They're necessarily gonna worry too much with these preseason games. It's just it's just more about getting back into shape and ramping up. The other thing. Is that frank. Vogel has a really good problem to have this year. He has too many rotation guys a normal nba team as you saw in the playoffs. You play about eight guys sometimes nine He has eleven all right. So i mean besides the barton. Ada he's got. Casey p caruso market saul mantras harrell. Kyle kuzma wesley. Matthews markeith morris. Dennis schroder and i think taylor horton. Tekere is gonna get minutes. I details so so. That's eleven guys. How do you think that that resolves itself think just plays eleven guys like the warriors used to. I think you will. And i think that'll help too. Because one of the things the lakers we all felt this last year. Which was lebron and they were great but the rest of the guys on the bench. You know they they even you know. Sometimes i thought they were. They look good and other times. It just kinda you know. You weren't sure who who is going to bring it and lebron. Ad would have to just put out a huge just to just to kind of save them. And i think you can just get more guys going. It's going to be big for them. And that takes a lot of the burden off of the two superstars. So the clippers on the other hand. I think need to find some type of leadership to get over the hump. Am i making too big of a deal about the fact that the team imploded are and paul george good eventually. They'll rise to the top and the clippers figure this out or is what happened against denver in the playoffs. A real problem. I think it's a problem in the sense. That like when i when i would do post-mortems on them that collapse. It was interesting talking to people associated with the team. And in and around. And i would say so. Who was the leader. You know like who is the the guy that you were leaning who who was and i get like six different answers and like people. Oh pat beverley and lou williams and and nobody really said choir. Paul at people really. They respect coli. He tried to call a few meetings. They would watch film. you know they would they. Would you know they have a couple team meetings. But he's just not that kind of a leader. Paul is is is a really nice guy and he tends to pick up all the slack for being the superstar who will face the media and answer questions every night and probably a little too honest sometimes which we all love in the media of course But he didn't earn the respective his teammates last year. And it's not to say that he did anything like that okay. We don't respect you. You're not a good pro or anything like that. It was just that he was out for so long that when he came back a little while for him to find his place and then while he was struggling. I think that was hard for the rest of the team An analyst gave her really found his place. Quite frankly like they you know he was in and out of the lineup to match. But even even when paul's going john he's not that kind of a leader he's just like an easygoing guy. He's not gonna get up in your face so i don't think you can win a championship if you don't have that kind of leadership in toronto kyle lowry. He's a leader like that. That's that's that's your guy right you didn't you didn't need to be that guy he can be this. You know the the assassin on the court. But i just i don't who who is. That can't be your coach right. It's gotta be it's gotta come. And that's why lebron is so valuable because he's like the greatest leader in the nba. The clippers don't really have that and it'll be interesting to see if it if it develops at. Do you think surgery. Bach is an upgrade or a downgrade from mantras harrell. I was easy to upgrade. Just because i think the way that he's gonna play it's going to fit what they need more. They needed some more shooting. If you want you know pollen paul. Anka wire both guys who their wings and they slashed the basket. And if you don't have shooting then there's not a lot of space and so you know landry. Shamet was a guy who was one of the shooter's last year. But you know he's like landry shamet can can make a shot. He was good good player. but he's not. He's better as a bench player. I think than as a starting guard or somebody that you're counting on for major minutes so surge is going to be a nice veteran edition for them but also you can shoot three and i think that'll that'll help them so i'd say he's an upgrade. Just based on style of play. I think they will definitely miss that. That pick and roll tresin lou but as we saw in the playoffs. It didn't work in worrying teams exploited. Those two defensively to. That's right harrell is going to be more valuable than the lakers. Because the lakers of other key players. That are good on defense. Yeah and trez does not play much defense on the lakers. As maybe he would have had to on the clippers. But it is. It'd be very both these teams. I think it'll be fun to follow this year. Obviously going to be glued to the lakers are interesting to me. I don't know if this is. What the clippers are really going to end up ass like if the roster they have now is going to be that roster they have at the end of the year i just keep thinking they have one more big move. I don't know what it's going to be. But i know that they need a point guard. True point guard. the still haven't got him. I know they've tried to you know they. They were interested in all the same point. Guards lakers were lakers. Everybody was kind of like there was. There was some interest between the clippers. And eric bledsoe at some point. You know in trading for bledsoe right He obviously went to new orleans. I just think they've got upgraded that position. And i've heard a lot of names on that in that at that fit that right whether that's patty mills terry rozier or even eric bledsoe. Lonzo ball like those are those are point guards. You could see move to a different situation during the year that i think if they had an opportunity that mates works for them. I think they do. Because i think they. They know they need you. Know a true flora general rate. Do you lonzo were lamelo. Ball will ever be an all star now. Really i mean do you. I thought someone lonzo. I came into the league. I thought that when he gets his triple double with lebron in charlotte. I thought this guy gets a couple more years on in the league. He's gonna tear it up but then when he left and he went to new orleans he really didn't of pick up where he left off and i don't know how good lamelo is. I don't know how he's going to transfer to the nba game and in charlotte. They really have a lot of people. You can give us this too. So i mean i think lonzo could make it all defensive team i just like i don't think he's going to be in new orleans for too long all leave i'll say that They drafted a guy nickel out under That they really like at the point guard position. And i think lonzo is. This is the year where they either have to pay him an extension or or trade him. And i think he if he doesn't take any huge steps forward. There's gonna be a lot of pressure. Play the nicole alexander and then you know what do you do with lonzo. So i could see him. Getting traded at some point. He's got rich policies agent now rich. Pretty good it Get guys into better situations freak. Say like that okay. That's that's that was an interesting move that he made in signing with rich. Paul i thought because i feel like that situation is going to come to a head with lonzo's i think he's a really good player. I just don't know if he has the pick and roll game. I don't know if he's ever going to be able to be a consistent enough shooter and that will be you know in this in this day and age like i don't know if it's enough to be just a great passer or a great the way rondo is like you know rondo has had a hall of fame career. I think now. I think you'll make it to titles now. Two different teams close. But i think he probably will get in I don't know that. I don't know that that that he could have had the same career in this era. Though his specific skill set. Like you have to be able to score as a point guard you have to be able to. Can't just be a great floor. John and in today's nba. That's a good question. And i don't know. I forget how young these guys are too like for. What's what's lonzo. Twenty three maybe. Yeah yeah i mean and so they got. They got time to okay next. What happens physically to he could totally hit grossberg. Yep all right coming up next. I'm gonna put ramona lindsay and george to the test a test. The idea came to me from of all people baker mayfield. I'll explain neck. Ireland ramona's information. And you don't remind you. And i have been to more press conferences than we'll ever remember. We've been to so many hosts game scrums and lockers and it does get tedious. It does get old not just us but for the players and so after a while these guys are just trying to come up with ways to make it interesting. And i i cut the other day lindsay. You'll be interested in this. Because it comes out of cleveland where baker mayfield was doing a game interview and i want you to listen carefully. Mayfield was asked why before he was struggling doing a lot of knuckle headed things now over the last four games. He's been playing really really well and somebody asked him along the lines of. Why do you think you've improved so much. And here's what baker mayfield said About to do something. I think what an idiot knew that they would okay. It's so easy you think okay. He's maturing right. Yeah that ramona was blatantly ripped off from one of the greatest tv shows of all time office. This is to white. Sh route played by rainn wilson directly from the office. Hit it hora. Whenever i'm about to do something. I think would immediate do that. And if they would. I do not do that thing. He blatantly is dropping from the office so it because they know it's an attempt for game against because we come up with the is one of the great shows of all time k. Caused me to come up with. I pulled a bunch of quotes on and the audience can play along. I want you to tell me if these quotes come from sports or if they come from the office okay. So that's it is it's sports or is it the office all right. Here's quote number one. They don't promote guys like me. They guys who like cheerios. Good guys but i find a way to promote myself. Lindsay is that is that from sports or from the office. I'm gonna guess sports. Okay i'm gonna say the office. Okay ramona break the tie. Think the office that is from meta world. Peace lindsey new number to my career was sputtering until i did a three sixty in got headed in the right direction. Hey is that sports so the office. Ask the office okay. A momo office sound like the office for sure all three of you incorrect. It was tracy mcgrady. Okay number three. I talk a lot. So i've learned to tune myself out remote. It is that from the office or from sports. I'll say office all right lizzie. Go sports okay or a break. I wanna go. Sports ramon is on the board that is many tailing. Kelly curran from the office. Okay all right number. Four statistics are like bikinis. They show a lot but not everything. Is that from the officer sports sports. I feel okay. That's all right. Ramona say sports remote in lindsay scott. Scratch lou pinella. The former baseball manager says that about all right. Fool me once strike one. Fool me twice. Strike three is that the answer. Sports aspirin sports okay. Remote office when lindsay. I feel like the office to that. Is steve carell michael. George you're halfway to a curtis you're over five in this game her next would i made a sixteen hundred minus eight hundred minus two hundred on the sat. I'm very intelligent when i speak whore. Hey is that from the office or sports from the office. All right ramona Medicine sports lindsey. I feel like that. Also sounds like a michael scott thing so long as the office. Only ramona's scores that leaves from shaquille. Oh so it's remote for lindsay three hor haze for six. I'm just gonna let you keep going. I see all right. Do i need to be liked absolutely not. I like to be liked. I enjoy being liked. I have to be liked. But it's not like this. Compulsive need to be like like to be praised as that sports or the office each. I'll say the office. Okay remote. I think that is the office. Okay lindsey. i think it's sports a lindsay. You should have started with the crowd georgia on the board. That is michael. Scott steve carell from the office. All right i'm fast to give you a reference point. I'm somewhere between a snake and mongoose anna panther or hey is that sports are the office. Sports ramona. say sports. All right lindsey it sports to all three of you incorrect to white shirt from the booze broads and bs if you got all that what else. Ta need or hey sports or the office. I'll say the office all right ramona. Sports lindsay guests sports. Sports is the correct answer. It's harry carey the old again all right. Two more corey is now one for nine. Here's the next quote. I don't talk trash talk smack. They're totally different trash. Talk is hypothetical like your mom is so fat she can eat the internet but smacktalk is happening like right now like your ugly and i know for a fact because they got the evidence right there for as sports office. That's the office ramada. sports lindsey. It's gotta be the office. That is many hailing from the office. All right finally the last one and by the way ramona you have six and lindsay has five all right so you. They're getting a tie or you're gonna win it so vogel i. Chemistry is a class. You take in high school or college where you figure out. Two plus two is ten or something. Like that ramona's sports or the office sports lindsay. I'm gonna guess the office also sports ramon. Is your winner denis rodman. Dennis ryan is diversity. But isn't it weird. How many office quotes amazing. Actually here's the funny thing. Okay george play mayfield again. After the game on sunday. About the do something i think. What an idiot. And if they would then. I don't have that all right now play. Do i shoot from the office. Whenever i'm about to do something. I think would immediate do that. And if they would. I do not do that thing. Well i think he nailed it almost verbatim. Yeah i mean he definitely watch their office going too much against it and he's been. He's been doing that every week for the entire season. He's been quoting pop. Culture things in his press conferences. Really keep it last week. It was like low wayne where it was a man something about like g. Stay silent like lasagna. And he just. And i guess it's like some bit with jimmy fallon where i guess like jimmy fallon tries to like get some of these pro athletes to like slip. These weird quotes into there aren't says okay. So yeah that's where i come from. And by the way mayfield lindsey. i don't know if you're there. Lindsay beauty knows from outside of cleveland. Bait mayfield as won me over in his last four games. He's got a quarterback rating of one hundred and thirty. He has like eleven touchdowns in one. Interception i i know it's it's hip to bang on paper may baker mayfield but i. He's i think that. I'd rather baker mayfield than half the quarterbacks in the nfl right now wouldn't you well. Yeah i mean. He seems like he's taken a step forward from last year. It seems like they've gotten him a lot more weapons and protection of their right. So what are they know. Eight three nine three nine. Yeah yeah i mean. I wouldn't take them over half the quarterbacks and league. I still don't think that i think that baker mayfield ceiling is like andy dalton. I don't think he's the guy. And i think that kevin stefanski just a really good coach and i think that they've kind of figured out like the best way to utilize him and i think he's just way more like a gay manager. Yeah like you had a really good week. But i'm still. I'm still not a believer. I talking to your quarterback though. I know but know he's a third third third year. Yeah so i just. I don't know. I just think that he's not the guy i think that he's been great and depending on how much they ask him to do. And i think cleveland's going anywhere. I think that that. Kansas city's win in the afc. And if not pittsburgh win it. But i think the rounds are for real. I think there a playoff team. And they're going to be in it. And so that i mean considering where cleveland's been for the past fifteen years. That's a huge step forward. Good for them. Coming up next kyri irving oh has been in the news and not all of it is good. We'll explain. Why coming up ramona's information. I'm john ireland seven ten espn today. It is momo in ireland ramona shelburne filling information. We got radio tinder coming up for you in about ten minutes. So stay tuned for that. Ramon i love kyrie irving as a player. I think he's really really good. I think he's as good of a one on one player as we have in the league. I think that him and kevin durant together in brooklyn could be super dangerous. But he's a weird guy. I think even kyrie would admit that. He's a weird guy. During the nets media day on friday kyri released a statement conveying that his actions on and off the court will speak for him. He didn't outright say that he wasn't going to speak to the media all season but it certainly seemed. That was the implication now. This isn't unique to require. Leonard often makes the media. Wait for an hour after games before he talks then he rarely says anything. Players are required through the collective bargaining agreement to make themselves available to media the nba. Has fine people for this before kindergarten. It got fined twenty five grand in twenty twelve because he refused to speak to reporters. I mean they've done it. If you're not gonna talk if kyrie ramona wants to let his play do the talking. Should he be able to do that or should the nba final keeps this up buying them every single time. And i'm gonna be really mad if they don't why it this is if you allow if he has some reason that he can document where he's been totally taken out of context or whatever it is i'd like to see it but from covering kyri over the years and listening to his votes etc like. He hasn't been misquoted. Nobody's taking him. He just doesn't like the way people react to what he says. Nobody made him say. These are our core players and then forget half the team. I mean. Remember when he said that nobody made him say that the earth being flat like the whole social. There's a sort of social contract. And i say this is a is a card carrying member of the media. Who's you know. Obviously you know. I have a stronger. Take on that because you were personally involved but you know. There's people who i think the media have treated unfairly over the years kyrie's not one of them like he's the one who's created all these storms like he. He just doesn't like criticism. He doesn't like that people don't agree with them all the time. But he's the one who's saying these things and to me. The contract that all players should refers to collectively bargain. It's part of your player contract that you have media obligations and maybe that's from a bygone era. We'll see how the league does you know if they start to really restrict media access and it's it's already gotten fairly restrictive but my message to teams players to anybody who over asked me about cooperation with the media etc. You can think that you don't need us right. You can be a popular player. That kids will buy your shoes. You can just totally bypassed the day to day beat reporters and all that you know. That's fine but the we are the people who are telling your story. Generally we are the people who are relaying your story if you openly show disdain for us And openly flout the obligations which is which are again collectively bargained at some point. You can't really get upset when you get bad coverage right like how are we supposed to like this one of the problems. That would james harden right now. How are we supposed to know what. James harden his thinking when he doesn't tell us and he doesn't really have a camp of people who speak for him like he doesn't know his mom goes on instagram. His sister goes on instagram. But then if you want to say that you're misunderstood or people don't just you don't know the whole story. Well get someone to tell us the story. Tell your side because if not other people will tell it for you. And i think over the years i feel bad for players. 'cause they get you know there's so much happens on social media that so negative and i feel some of it myself so i can't imagine what they go through right. Just think that's part of it. You got sell the game. You've got to make it interesting. Because as much as i think the nba's as popular as it's ever been it does have an issue with people watching live sports with people actually watching their games and the only thing that seems to really sell in terms of the nba right now. We're like the storylines characters. The you know the drama. And you know i think you just kinda have to learn to live with that and and and sell the game that well. Here's a here's another way of saying what you're saying and i've constantly marveled at this in my years as a sportscaster professional sports at its core is an entertainment product. That's right that's it all right you can you know and so i always i always think if you wanna be paid as the face of the franchise all right because you help your team win. That's just part of your job. Like i was just made the argument that tim duncan unbelievable player. But i felt like. I was incredibly lucky to be in the kobe. Bryant era your basketball. Because kobe was a star. Kobe sold the game. He sold franchise. Tim duncan never said anything in the spurs. Have this militaristic attitude of the media. That greed comes from greg popovich and you never see of them on the cover of magazines or doing commercials or doing anything because they feel like all. We owe you our play. That's not what you're s necessarily being asked to do or being paid for you're being paid to provide an entertainment product. Kyri what makes him so weird is it. This is a guy that has done movies. Uncle drew he gets this part of the job but then he doesn't say anything and that was one of the reasons he was in the news this week. The other reason was lebron was on road trip. The podcast that. Richard jefferson does with alec clifton and they asked him about when kyrie said last year when he was going to brooklyn. It'll be the first time he's ever been on a team with another player who could hit clutch shots and i was surprised at lebron even about this but he did. And here's what the bryant said. When i heard the comment remade wanted to one. Not only find the whole transcript but also call them up people. Send me the whole transcript and did katie's podcasts. And i was a little like like damn once. I got the whole transcript while i was like damn. It wasn't like all you trip tripping shots throughout my whole life. That i was like damn because you were there for a couple seasons playbook carry for three the whole time while i was there only wanted to see him be. Mvp or league only cared about his success and and it just didn't align it just didn't align and was able to win a championship. craziest thing. We were still able to win a championship and we could never ally but only cared about his well-being both on and off the floor and it kind of hurt me a little bit. I was shocked. Lebron was that candidate so two points for him for even be willing to talk about it. But i thought ramona most most players would have said. Oh no that was no big deal to me but that was a really thoughtful answer from a really thoughtful answer and you know what i heard it. Honestly my first reaction was good for lebron because kyrie's been taking shots at him for several years starting with the trade demand okay When he demanded that he wanted out of cleveland and that was all because of you know he felt like. I'm going to leave before. Lebron can leave even our wanna get stuck here and blah blah blah blah blah. I mean i thought that. Was you know a very bold thing for kyri to do. And he's been you know there's been a lot of comments kind of like that from kyri. Disin- lebron over the last couple of years and lebron has held. His tongue held. His tongue held his tongue. And finally it's like enough like show some respect man well and and here's the interesting thing i still think. Even though the kyrie's coming across weird with all this stuff. I still think the nets could come out of the yeast. I think tyree and kevin durant stay healthy. Aren't they the team to beat in the east should be. They should be. I mean. I think that they have shooting. Joe harris a really good shooter. They'd just resigned until bunch of money. pretty deep bench. I think they have a really nice divert. Spencer dinwiddie we all really good and they get and look out. I mean well. Let's for more reasons than one. Right i got you know i mean there's a part of me that's like wow steve nash. A hell of a first job. But i guess he's got dantonio on his staff and he knows harden and stuff You know i personally. Don't think that hard and will end up in brooklyn. I think that they can do better than what brooklyn can offer them. I think it's it's a it's a heck of a roll of the dice to to gamble on such. You know that that kind of trade but look kyri has been taking shots at lebron. I don't blame lebron for firing back. Usually he doesn't. But and the cynic in me says oh that's because they don't have a chance to get him free agency like a couple years ago. When kyrie's was a free agent lakers and lebron definitely were in it. You know the day were a suit or for free and now that that's sort of not really a possibility at all anymore. Lebron can say what he really thinks right so maybe he just waited until the agency stuff off the board. But i think lebron i saw it i was. I was in cleveland a lot. The broad tried to mentor him. Lebron wanted to do for kyri. What he's doing for. Anthony davis and you think i re- didn't want to now you want to do his own thing. Yeah you know. It's like koby always used to say this about chat like you know shack wasn't shape. We would have won every year right right okay and i think. Kobe had to see what life was like without shack to appreciate how good he had it before the before shack was traded. Then eventually he got talent so you know he was able to kind of move forward at least and win more championships. But like you know. I just think kyrie is following a a certain career arc where it's like you know he. He asked out of the lebron situation. And i think they'll spend his whole career looking back on that moment and maybe regretting it right in brooklyn needs to work for kyrie because of a dozen that leaves a pretty ugly legacy. He ran himself out of cleveland. You ran himself out of boston. And if he goes to to brooklyn and it doesn't work and then kyrie's one of those guys that's in a weird spot. I don't wanna title if he's your best player but as your second best player he's probably better than than the other team second best player. So he's in that pow ghazal mode there where pat was so much better than the other team. Second best player in memphis powell was the one who is dominant. They were oh and twelve in the playoffs. As soon as he got to the lakers he was so much better than everybody else's number. Two that the lakers just dominated people has a chance to do that. But he doesn't strike me as somebody who's willing to accept the robin now. You know what i mean. And here's what here's what's crazy is like when the whole story of kevin and kyrie and deondraye jordan going together to brooklyn came out last summer in reporting on it like i felt like it was kyrie driving that not kevin you know kyri is the alpha among those three kyrie was the one who really wanted to go to brooklyn. Kevin kinda got on board and came to like it but i always. It always seemed like cairo was the guy pushing the net. Then it'll be really good. I i like steve nash. Lot i think you know i think if durant and and career healthy. They're going to be a very very difficult team to beat. Miami is gonna be good. I think boston's going to be good. I think milwaukee ll still be good. I think the nets could be great. I think that's that's clearly the the horse to watch in that horse race. All right coming up next radio tender lindsay's got a bunch of stuff. She wants us to react to. We'll tackle it all next. Mason and ireland ramona information seven ten. Espn all right. Everyday around this time lindsay puts together a list of weird stuff. She wants us to react to lens. What do you got today. are you guys. After seeing the success of mike tyson. Verse radio in junior close a few weeks ago. Snoop dogg is looking to cash in on the celebrity. Boxing craves the rapper. Who provided commentary for the event is apparently starting his own. Boxing promotion named the fight club. Snoop dogg will team up with trailer. You know who are the ones responsible for promoting the Tyson jones fight They're gonna look to replicate the success of tyson verse jones which claims to have sold over twelve million pay per views by matching celebrities musicians social media stars and athletes from other sports inside the squared circle. The fans love will also see trailer. Continue to feature musical acts between bouts. Dogs fight clovelly will be successful. Swipe laughter swiped brighton. I dunno snoop is pretty awesome. I feel like though that doesn't necessarily translate to like something. I need to watch every week. Somebody say no. I said this on the air yesterday. That in my ten years as the lakers sideline reporter. I interviewed snoop three or four times. Any wasn't good on the sidelines. He was great. Yeah unbelievable. I just think that if he lindsey. Does it say anywhere in there whether or not he would be the announcer for the fights. It doesn't but i'm guessing that's probably gotta be part of it right especially if they're going to have like bigger headlining type fights. I don't know if it'll be like if see where they have like the minor fights and then they have these big ones every couple of months or whatever. I'd imagine that's kind of how it would go. Because i heard originally he wasn't even supposed to be on the main event the Tyson fight he and then but just the way that social media reacted to the the fight with nate robinson and jake paul make them on the main fight because their gold here if snoop agrees to do the commentary. I think it'll go. I think it'll work twice right. I think i think it would probably work. Just because snoop is such a big boxing fan too. And he's just he just knows what he's doing everything he touches turns the. I feel like all right next one here. A former heisman trophy winner. Johnny manziel opened up about receiving impermeable benefits during his college career. An appearance on the you know what i mean. Podcast menzel confirmed to receive at least seven hundred dollars monthly stipend and check or was offered as much as five thousand dollars in one sitting when he was at. Am he promised to go into more detail in the future. Do you guys think the ncaa will even bothered to look into johnny manziel comments about receiving money's a student athletes. Swipe left or swipe right. Was it supposed to be about ten years ten years ago. No who cares. I mean normally the morning you know. Many college athletes get paid. Yeah round listening to see. How was it the way that he goes. He's got a seven hundred dollar monthly stipend from boosters and he the way he goes into it on this podcast. He said you know he'd be at the airport just waiting in line at tsa or something and he'd have like a random booster come up to him and just hold his hand out and hannam envelope and it would have like five thousand dollars cash in it and he said that was the norm. He said that he had teammates. That you know had one of those teams Who might have been mike evans that you know had had babies and stuff and he would have to help them pay for them to get diapers and stuff because he had boosters handing him so much money and some of his teammates weren't getting money like he was so he was helping them out too. I just feel like. I don't know this could be what's interesting because he's a he's kind of a rich kid came from money so he they were giving him something he didn't need it Because you had plenty of family money. I don't know i mean you know he. He was being honest about it. But i think it has so many problems on. Its hands right now. I don't think you're gonna go back and do anything. Yeah i agree. I mean the ncaa's the keystone cops if they're not gonna wanna drop bad attention to them and i mean i swipe left on this big time all right. We'll speaking of money. Apple just unveiled their long rumored. Airpods max over ear headphones airpods. Max is available for preorder now and we'll ship december fifteenth. The company said on tuesday. But if you wanna pair they're going to set you back a pretty penny. Can you guys guest how much they price them at. Well the over the year headphones like the bang. Since i have the bose ones the ones the noise cancelling ones run anywhere from three hundred to six hundred dollars. I'll say it's in that range. I'll say it's somewhere north of five hundred dollars ramon. That's interesting 'cause they didn't they just drop the price of the of the phone so it's almost like they have to make their money back up on headphones that go with it. I will say two hundred dollars. So they're gonna cost you a whopping five hundred forty nine figure you spend that much money on the apple. Airpods max headphones. Wipe lester. swipe right. It depends how often you're in a setting where you can use them for example ramona when i was traveling and flying all over the country and i was taken one hundred flights a year noise. Cancelling headphones are invaluable. Nothing more important in my bag. So when i'm doing that yes. Five hundred forty nine dollars for a pair of really good over the year. Noise cancelling headphones is worth it. But if you're only gonna use them once or twice a year no just use the earpods like gravel will you probably haven't during the pandemic but before the pandemic you travel probably enough where five hundred bucks for a pair really. Good headphones is not an indulgence. I think you would probably find that to be very worth it. Yeah although oh gosh says this is the power. I'm so bucci. I'm sorry what people will know that the thing is. You don't have to get if you get first class airfare. They give you the headsets. They gravely that are not as good as these. They're not as a new good noise. Cancelling headphones are like like jon. Said like. I can't fly without them now but i guess my question is more like. Don't you think apple's kinda like late to the party on that because pretty much everybody who who's going to use the noise cancelling headphones probably already have them and they probably right right like once you buy one. You don't really need a new ones for the first time. Though that i listened to beats headphones the very first time is blown away at how great they were. Yeah i didn't think there'd be anything. And then isaac at mirror gave me a pair of the bang and olufsen. And they're just as good if not better than the beats headphones. So if you if you want. If that's a world you live in i. I have those headphones on my head every single second. I'm on a plane so a to me. It's completely worth it lindsey. It sounds like the way you ask the question. You think. It's too much to spend for headphones. No i mean like. I said i think like my bose. Noise cancelling headphones. They were like. I don't know three hundred bucks and so i think the fact. That apple is known for like the quality of these headphones. Just like the the airpods the airpods. We're like crazy expensive. When they first came out there like three hundred bucks and you know they only last eighteen months. You basically have to throw them away after you the. Yeah because they stop charging because the battery on it allowed every type of battery that had mine for longer than that. But i don't use those as much. Yeah if you use them if you use them often like every day they're only supposed to last like eighteen months so after eighteen months the the battery goes out. So i guess everybody just kind of making fun of apple today because they're like okay. You're going to charge five hundred fifty bucks for these headphones which we all know that they're not going to be as good a quality as like bows or beats or whatever. 'cause they're made by apple so i think that's the problem and then the other thing too. Is you know what their new phone starting with the iphone twelve. They're not including chargers. You have to buy them separately. And they're changing the charter. So like if you had an iphone eleven or ten or anything before that used to buy a new charge and you have to buy it separately. So i'll say this. You know. Mark cuban had this quote a few years ago where it was like. You know the nfl. It's like you know when they started playing thursday night football games right and it was something about. I'm gonna. I'm going to make the calls. Fat hogs get slaughtered. Thank you okay thank you. I was searching for that. Because i i was going to have to summarize. I couldn't remember exactly what it was. But i think apple needs to be careful here because part of the reason why people love apples that it's so seemless that you get a you know we're already kind of annoyed that they send these trojan updates to your phone that kind of ruined your phone by a new one. You know already learned that trick like don't ever let it update the update my phone because soon as that does that all of a sudden the battery dying and it runs really slow. People are wise to that. And i understand. They need you to keep buying new phones every few years that. Everyone's kind of okay with that but if you start making me by new chargers and new headphones and knew this meant to get annoyed can stop buying your product. you know. it's just it's like you know airlines and they start charging for bags and then they charge for the seat upgrade the specialty. There's a there's a line when you push a little too far when you just totally lose the consumer be interesting to see whether or not those those phones a cell right out of the gate lizzy do you have one more. Is that it. That's it for today. Coming up our number three mason and ireland lindsay theories going to join us. We've also got game games and the scoop all coming up next mason ireland ramon information seven ten espn.

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Episode 135  Harbaugh Cancels OSU Title

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Episode 135 Harbaugh Cancels OSU Title

"It is tuesday december eight twenty twenty with a somber mood in studio today as actually recorded the show and had to go back and going to have to edit some stuff and re record because the game. The greatest rivalry in all sports has been canceled announced. Michigan was going to be without forty-five players are some ungodly number. Which i wish there was a way to verify that. Because i'm calling bullshit but to all the naysayers or people that said that this game was going to be played. I've talked about it for over a week. Since they announced that they had one cova case that there is no way in hell. Michigan was going to play this game. But we're going to get to that once we get to the show. We're going to talk about the buckeyes michigan state game. What i saw and really what a masterful job. By larry johnson ryan day also kind of setting it all up. But what a win for. Larry johnson in his debut as a head coach at the ohio. It wasn't his debut but it was the first time ever. A black man was the head coach at ohio state. And i. there's none more deserving. The larry johnson. I'm gonna talk about that. A little bit kind of speak to him as a person one of the finest men i've ever been around and just awesome win and you're gonna want to talk about that game on talk about the landscape of college. Football also wanna talk about kind of the playoff picture. The bowl picture. What we're looking at right now. And i want to talk about the fact that how state might be left out the big ten championship game and possibly the playoffs because of kevin warned. Don't you forget but recapping the weekend we wanted to twelve hundred hot streak with our minister picks. Here's the thing about a gambling man. We we have a great formula and process that to how we do things and so i want to challenge you to check it out because we'll go we. Obviously we'll have a bad day. We'll have a bad two days. 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He'll run it after the ten fifteen twenty five thirty thirty five forty forty five fifty forty five talk football lucky for me. The press combatant speaking but they are thought they were five michigan state. Jalen watts said get the fuck out of here. Okay all right but no. There's no no positively this show. We're gonna start off a lot like the sunday show. If you're not a subscriber unpatriotic. I have a ranch show every sunday just kind of what i saw in college football not a lot of politics and so the first part of the show is going to be along those lines because just announced moments ago. I was waiting for this. I mentioned a preview show. Before i put the episode out i was. I wanted to make sure that this game you didn't. You didn't get canceled because i heard it was about to get cancelled so sure enough here. We are the for the first time in one hundred and god knows how many years ohio state will not play in game. The greatest rivalry in all sports. They will not be playing michigan this year. This game has been played through. Two world wars the smallpox pandemic. It's been played through everything it's never been cancelled in the history of all the shit that's went on and over one hundred years and here we are the fucking covid. Excuse my language. The covid got us. We can no longer play the greatest rivalry and all sports. This game has lost its luster. I hate to break into a house state fans. The old schoolhouse state fans will call bullshit. They'll say no can never it's the game. There's too much riding on it. But i hate to break it to you. What has gone on michigan. What jim harbaugh has done. Not only that. But the state of michigan football. The state of the big ten football is changing the identity of this game back in the nineties. Even when michigan was winning and you called it the game the greatest rivalry in all sports people in other parts of the country respected. That when i was at florida in two thousand six people respected that ohio state was different. We'll have state michigan. The rivalry was different that was nationally respected. It's no longer nationally respected now. Granted we have a recent bias in the world. I get it but what is going on right now. The fact that we that we are allowing these teachers time. I'll just think about this now two weeks ago. Almost two weeks ago michigan announced. They had one case they wanted to cancel the game To be cautious because they felt like they had an outbreak on their hands. They were setting the table. They were giving you the nuggets. They were letting you see the foreshadowing right. It's like the movie you go to the movie theater. And you see the foreshadowing building up to that. Final reveal then. That's what we just had michigan's been giving us little nuggets that they were gonna do this for over a week. We knew this was coming anybody that it wasn't was an idiot. I been saying it for a week and a half. you knew it. i knew it. We all knew this was gonna happen. But the audacity for jim harbaugh and the university of michigan did not only cancel the game right with. We don't know any details we'll never know. Details might have five cases they might have fifty cases. We'll never know because they don't have to report. Thanks kevin warning. Thanks kevin warrant for that one. But the audacity to be openly and publicly in contract negotiation. What is rivalry week. You don't freaking contract rivalry week. Is this guy for real. Jim harbaugh so office damn rocker. It's time to go. Why are you know. Michigan fans are live right. I mean. I'm sure you're happy. You don't have to play ohio state but you have to be livid with jim. Harbaugh contract negotiations. This is just a joke. Does anyone at michigan have a clue what is going on. The game has lost. Its respect that rivalry game. There's no longer a mutual respect michigan's running their mouth mouth revenge tour. They're they're They're to handle business. They're gonna win. they're going to do that. How they jim harbaugh tells his team. Shut the hell up and play football and win a game. This is a tragic travesty. For for midwest the brand of midwest football and that's my mission. I've found in life now in this stage of my life is i'm passionate about the midwest brand of football grew up in it love it. I mean have been a part of it my whole life and it just makes me live to watch the mid west brand of football diminish right before my very eyes and no one seems to give a shit that we're allowing these teams to do this. I know that's probably a little overreaction but this is just absurd for the first time in over a hundred years. We're not gonna have a rivalry game so the question is what happens now. Right the big data rule which we know the big ten in their rules their sticklers about their rules that you have to play a minimum six games to make the big ten championship now state has five five regular season over as it stands today. They are ineligible for the big ten championship game. So i guess that means to tell me how much logic this has. They can play someone else that weekend. Though like the number two team. Probably be like wisconsin or something. So we'll play wisconsin next weekend. That's this one model. One thing that can happen right then. The question is does six in ohio. State team get in the playoffs. We'll circle back to that in a minute. The other thing that can happen they shuffle the schedule around right. Let ohio state reschedule maryland. Play maryland this weekend. They're eligible if they beat maryland. Then they get to go play in the big ten championship game. Let's let that happen right. You could shuffle. Some games around. We just watched the acc do it. And we're gonna talk about that for a minute. The acc just randomly shuffled schedules around changed. Who was playing. Who gave a couple of games gave clemson dame a bi week before the championship game. Because they saw their matchup. They knew what they wanted right. Clemson beat miami. Notre dame was undefeated. They found their conference champions. So they shuffled everyone. Around cancelled clemson and notre dame's last game and said let's go. Let's get two teams in the playoffs. That's their goal. What is the big ten's goal to get one team in the playoff because they've already screwed that up royally this is a joke but back to the acc. Can you imagine. I talked about this on the ranch. Show and i'm gonna talk about it again. I would be so furious if i was miami because any year. You're a program that's building. He's trying to build a program the amount of momentum he would get from going to acc championship game in any other. Given year my miami would have won their division clemson would have won the other division and they would have met in the conference championship game. But because the acc gave notre dame of free pass to come join the acc. Now miami's out. How is that fair. They didn't even play notre dame like at least let them play notre dame. They lost clemson so they should be having a rematch against clemson. Their conference teams right. Notre dame's not a conference team. There is this this pretty girl that acc invited over for friday night party. It's a joke. I would be pissed if i was miami. So miami stopped. Do blanked them. They just let andy get in if they kept the atlantic coastal divisions miami would win the coastal. But here we are twenty twenty so anyways. Why does the big ten do that. Preserve your patriarch. Right your champion. Your school the buckeyes preserve their ability to go. Try to win it all and bring a national championship back to your conference. That's what they should do. Why won't they or will they. Will they shuffle the schedule. We know the answer right. We know the answer. Kevin warning shuffling schedule. He doesn't have balls like the. Acc commissioner or the sec commissioner. They could shuffle. The games get. Oh how their six game to get them in the back door of the big ten championship get them to seven or no got a decent. They're going to make the playoffs and then let them let them control their own destiny. They won't and question is. Where's kevin warren. Where paging kevin warren. Where are you cav-. Where's kevin warren. Have you seen a statement from recently. I haven't who i have. I've seen statements for barry alvarez left and right and is he is he the commissioner now because he should be if he's not just unbelievable. Unbelievable that the big ten allowing this to happen and they're letting teams this. This goes all the way back to the maryland game. Why was it allowed to cancel. They didn't surpass any threshold. They didn't have too many cases. You let notre dame control. How states are notre dame. You let maryland control ohio states discount. That's bullshit there should be some repercussions right. That's a forfeiture. Give house to win. Now they can go or don't make the stupid six-game rule in the first place. But here's the issue right. Here's the question for you. Let's say they don't play. Don't win the big ten state. Plays a constellation big ten game next weekend against wisconsin. Let's say or someone like that now. They're six in. Oh does a six at ohio state. Get in over an eight and one texas. Am do they or do they get in over a florida. And and or alabama florida were upset alabama. I'm going to be honest. i don't think they do. I don't think they should to no fault of theirs. Buckeye fans are probably about the hit. Stop on this podcast but think about it. Ohio state would have more than likely lost obama early in the season. We watch that defense. They probably would have lost back when they had devante smith and j waddell come on. Let's be realistic. They probably would've lost that game. Are they better than am. They haven't beaten a team as good as florida. Granted they haven't played one. They haven't played team as good as bama so am has played two pretty legitimate teams. That would beat anyone in ohio state schedule right now pretty handily. So does ohio state deserve get in. I'm a buckeye. Homer grew up here. My whole life work there. No the coaches the players. Obviously i want ohio state to be there. So take this with great assault. Should they be there. Should they get in over a an now. I believe they deserve to be there. But i don't believe they should get in because of what the big ten did now. Hopefully we don't have to worry about that. Hopefully we get this all worked out. Hopefully ohio state is in the playoffs. Because that's what i want. That's what you should want. Anyone in the mid west should want that. But the reality is i mean they. They're not out in the country doesn't oh the big ten or the midwest anything they've been laughing at us the whole time and how big of a joke this was and they pretty much put out there when they put up the rankings and put clemson head of state that sorry. You're commissioner in. Your president screwed this up not us. Don't blame us blame them. So until the mid west until these fan bases it specifically ohio state point the finger were fingers. Belong pointed at kevin. Warren and the president's who voted no at jim butcher's and the medical staff that put these outrageous stipulations twenty. One day rules all this stuff point the finger where it belongs. Don't get pissed at the playoff committee. The playoff committees hand was forced by these people. Make sure you hold them accountable. If you wanna bitch bitch kevin. Warren bitch at the president's voted note. Cancel the season. They voted voted to postpone. The season then voted for the delayed. Start point fingers at the medical professionals that put together these stipulations. That are far worse than any other league at any other level. I mean my son's baseball team played through the pandemic with not even close to these restrictions. So i just absurd but onto the national landscape i. I'm still holding out hope. That ohio state finds a way in the playoff. I think they will but they shouldn't. That's just my opinion. I don't think they're gonna play this weekend just so we're clear. My prediction is game. This weekend maybe wisconsin next weekend and then we'll see if the playoffs committee put them in. They're not going to be big ten chance or berry. Alvarez gets the job done and removes the restriction and ohio state gets to play for the big ten championship. Those are the two options in my opinion of what will happen. So i've always said what are the greatest predictors of a national championship is elite. Nfl talent right. Always you look at the osu team for twenty fourteen. That i was a part of talent everywhere. Nfl watched sunday's you'll see almost any game. You'll see a kid that was on that team right talent everywhere. You look at the twenty nine hundred. Lsu team justin. Jefferson is doing clyde edwards. Helaire joe burrow. Just look at what those players are either on the defense side patrick quick so these just studs everywhere that twenty nine hundred. Lsu team right always. The greatest predictor of a national championship. Always and so. I looked at wanted to look. I said all right. Let's go to the current pro. Football focus mock draft. Let's look at the top fifty prospects and who has what so alabama leads out of the four probable playoff teams. Who i would put in. The playoffs bama clemson ohio state. Notre dame bama has seven top fifty players clemson s three ohio state s four. Notre dame has to write projected. First rounders obama has five jailer. Waddell devante smith pat. 'certain alex leatherwood and mack. Jones is a late first round. Pick now granted jalen waddles not playing right now. So he's not on the field but five first rounders to outside of the first round in christian bar more dylan moses. Ohio state has four three first rounders four overall justin fields. Sean wade davis sean. Wade davis or late. First round picks chris alive as projected a second round pick is based on pro football focus grades right clemson s three trevor lawrence darin kendrick travis at notre dame only has two one in the first round one outside woo carmo with. I'm sorry the linebacker and then liam aiken berg is projected. Just outside the first round. Tackle that i love that. I've talked about all year. You'll get top. One hundred players bama has nine top one hundred players clemson state six notre dame to have said all along notre dame is the fourth of the bunch when it comes to talent now. They're playing outstanding they're tackling. Well the run games ridiculous. Their offense lines ridiculous but that is the greatest predictor of a national championship. Nfl talent. you can look at any other analytic you want. That's the greatest predictor right. There i told you so. Obama has thirty three percent. Chance better chance than clemson state of winning the national championship. They got thirty three percent. More top tier. Nfl players and people. Say what about gary wilson. There's young guys everyone is young guys. Trust me bama has young guys. that'll be first rounders. I promise next year in a year in two years so that that's the greatest predictor you look at the espn fbi chance to make the playoffs. Bam sitting at ninety eight percent likelihood. I don't know what the other one percent would be. I guess they lose this weekend and lose the florida. Maybe i don't know Obama's at ninety eight percent state is the second highest odds to make the playoffs at eighty five percent notre dame sixty one percent clemson forty nine and a half percent a enam thirty seven percent. Cincinnati twenty two percent. How about this. Indiana seventeen percent florida thirteen percent and then the undefeated usc trojans at twelve percent. Those are the only teams that double digit double digital. It's funny of note that right. Now the analytic say. Indiana has a better chance of making the playoffs in the florida. Gators very interesting right a side note though clemson has twice as good of a chance at winning it all as notre dame based on espn fbi. Clemson has a ten point three percent chance to win. The national title and notre dame has a five point two percent. It just goes to show you that the analytics don't always rely on head to head wins and losses. Because i mean they have a twice a chance. That's wild so i think the playoffs will be as follows. Obviously barring some bullshit. I think the rosebowl be ohio. State notre dame the dream of all dreams the sugarbowl obama clemson. And you talk about. I mean this is a rematch. The the regional i guess. Blue buds and legends legendary teams notre dame ohio state. Play in the rose bowl. Bama clemson in the sugar bowl winner plays in south beach for the natty. Ohio state alabama is my prediction. But i was looking through the the bull matchups. And there's some interesting matchup projections right one of the projections. I saw have had a peach bowl. Cincinnati georgia would be an awesome bowl. Game down elena. The orange bowl miami florida you talk about a a heated heated game going back to week zero when i went down with the big three. Roll up down to orlando at their tailgate. I might have to check that out again. Shut big three. Roll up miami florida and the orange bowl. Fiesta bowl indiana indiana. Usc could be a huge game for tom. Allen the hoosiers the cotton bowl iowa state texas and could be at a small constellation. A chance for matt campbell to really stamp his legacy and really his his hot item ticket as him as the next big head coach if that were to play out and then my favorite in the cheese at bowl texas. nc state. Tom hermit goes to the cheese at bowl. I wonder if they're gonna watch with velcro. Watch that you get a cracker. Jack prize but in the bowl projections. I was looking at six. Big ten teams projected. No game for michigan and penn state. Yikes a big yikes right there but That's kind of the national landscape kind of bold predictions and really painting. No game this weekend and it'd be interesting to see what the big ten does. Let's see the leadership. Step up what do you think leadership is gonna step up. Any takers any idea. I'm going to vote no but enough about that. I want to talk about what. I saw in the ohio state versus michigan state. Game on saturday well. First of all the shoutout larry johnson. I a big big win. And i mean you saw. The players dumped gatorade on him. I will just speak to the man. That i know larry johnson and i know him very well One of the finest human beings. I've been around by four one of the finest football coaches. I've been around. And i posted it on facebook to to everyone's dismay that Penn state royally fucked up and twenty twelve. Not hiring larry. Johnson is the head coach to get him out of the mess. That jerry sandusky mess. There's no better person as far as character as far as leadership as far as football coach than they johnson and he should have been the head coach at penn state in two thousand twelve and just unfortunate but lucky for buckeye fans that they didn't even give him an interview if i right and so he decided you know what i'm gonna go to columbus and beat your ass then and he did so really awesome win for him. He did a phenomenal job. Filling in excellent job by ryan day getting the team prepared from a distance. I mean some of the stuff that they were doing not having meetings with players. Doing zoom meetings. How the staff's worked while. Some people were quarantined. It's just unbelievable to have staff meetings over zoom. I think about those you're talking about. Those are five six our staff meeting over zoom or you shitting me. I don't know how they got that done. But this game was unbelievable and the impact people of the game. I wanna talk about in the first guy i'm gonna talk about is offensive. Line coach gregg stood row wa. Coach stud was unbelievable what he did to get three young guys to go in that game. I know michigan state stinks. Appoint max ray. Dewan jones matt jones. The three highest graded lineman. Were those three. I wonder i just wonder how many early morning walk throughs and things he was doing over the last two weeks to get those three ready to play coach. Doug needs to you got you guys got to get off his back buckeye fans. I mean he what he did with. Those three was phenomenal. Amazing barron browning defensive. I don't know if he he player the game but he was the best game. He's played as a buckeye. How about that. We got him a middle linebacker and athletic guy. There how about that. The defense looked worldly. Better didn't it. Who the hell would have thought Barron brownie with the best game buckeye and then justin fields. Wow is all you could say about that. Wow justin feels most impressive thing to me was. It was very j. T. barrett esque keeping plays alive always second and six not second ten. And then the effort on the touchdown sealing block on trade sermons. long run. I mean just. It's just a window into the soul of that kid. The effort that he gave to give a little chip blocked to make sure that trae sermon didn't get tackled from behind. It was unbelievable and it also reminded us all of the justice field. Probably the fastest player on the field when he every time he steps on it unbelievable but as far as offense obviously the first thing. You shouldn't even have to point out. But harry miller struggled struggled with the snaps. It was a major issue. He also struggled outside of the snaps mean at twenty five percent grade and at twelve percent. Grade impasse bro. And it reminds me of a story. That i told on the rancho but mike pouncey. All pro center phenomenal player. His brother marquees were twin. They are twins not word they are. Twins marquees played center. Mike pouncey played guard at florida when marquees got drafted in the first round. Mike slid in at center to try to win the remington increases stock and be a high draft pick which he did but his first game out. I remember i watched it. I was at marshall. The time i just left and he had like a bad snap after bad snap and i am just want to remind everyone how difficult it is to play center when you haven't done it right. Harry miller has certainly has taken like any other any good old line. Coach stud has slipped him in center randomly to get him those reps team situations so he's worked at playing center but without spring ball. A young guy who really had this just submerse himself in the guard spot to get ready to be a starter to then. Slide him at center making the apex in having making calls it was. It's not on the kid right. Mike pouncey is an all pro center and he was terrible snapping the ball his first game at center. So just give the kid. A break is my point. Not that you wouldn't anyways. But he struggled really struggled but but justin fields picked it up first of all like i said he handled bad snaps. Made positive. Plays out of those bad snaps. You'd see exchange issues in the run game and he would take off get four five six yards seven yards a couple of times. You'd see it in the past game where he dropped. The ball is bad. Snap on the ground. Pick it up and scramble around. That is so important to a drive. You think about the difference between second and twelve and second six just thinking about the percentages that you get that first down and keep the chains moving phenomenal job. I just fields now. The scheme helped him out a lot. And it really. Kudos to corey. Dennis ryan day. They put the scheme together in just in fields was by himself in that stadium. Utah about man in the arena. He had no coach. No coach's position coach was gone. The head coach who coaches. Who used to coach coach's position is gone. I mean he had a receiver coach and a tight end coach. Kevin kevin wilson's brilliant. I mean he. He can coach him up. He's worked with quarterbacks his whole career. I'm not saying he didn't have any advisement. But you gotta give. Justin feels some credit here. He just played without his position coach without his head coach. Who was his position coach right and he did phenomenal. They did a great job setting up. The scheme was excellent. He averaged just over two point. Six seconds getting the ball out of which is almost three tenths of a second on average faster than he has all year so he consciously knew he had to get the ball out of his hands. They had three linemen right. He couldn't hang out to dry like he does. At times with the veteran group they also ran a lot. Four more quick. Quick game than i've ever seen. I mean just running slant flat quick out in a fade. Just some quick game stuff to get just the ball out of his hands. Get the ball to crystal ave or garrett wilson and get them out get get the ball sands and the other thing they did was. They broke it down. I usually want be about fifty fifty run to pass. They were more like thirty. Three sixty seven forty eight russia temps and twenty four pass attempts greater there was thirty. Three passes called. Who some scrambles because the snap issues etc but they made a game plan. We're going to go in and run the ball control the clock lennar line come off the rock this subpar defense justice going to throw the ball. Get it out of the sand and we're gonna get out of here and get a win. And justin did an outstanding job helping the line awareness. He's a pro man. He's a pro. The other thing we saw is trey freaking sermon. Man finally one hundred twelve yards. Eleven point two yards per carry. He was a much more dynamic. Option in the backfield for tony alford on saturday. It's what we've been waiting to see. I would expect his snap to increase and overtake masters down. The homestretch great. He played two more snaps master. I think but he should be getting three quarters of the snaps. Now because he's showing us that he's a dominant or not dominant take that back. Like whoa nellie hold the horses. He's showing us that he has a potential to be explosive. Right master average. Three point three yards per carry trae average eleven point to master thirty snaps fifty four percent grade trae. Thirty two snaps eighty six percent grade. You're talking to thirty. Two percent increase in positive performance. Never mind the dynamic aspect and zone six. I'm going to be honest. It was sloppy game for the receivers top ends were sloppy ball reception with sloppy ball security very very loose with the ball. And i'm not just talking about chris. Alavi two fumbles. I just mean. In general they're loose with the ball. They need to tighten it up could provide an issue. I hate foreshadowing. But let's hope this doesn't foreshadow some fumble issues a game coming up it's also still a two man. Show jason jason williams. Their third option at receiver had zero targets. As did the entire tight end group. I'm telling you this is problematic. You'll see in the long run granted. This wasn't a typical ryan game plan. Obviously right the minimal usage of the tight ends and wide receiver not name wilson will only hinder kristin garrett and justin feels down this final lap of the season especially when they face a better defense. I've talked about it with florida right. Kyle pits and canaries. Tony that's great. They're phenomenal just like the they're not like but they're phenomenal options. If you don't have a third and fourth those two can be limited. Garrett wilson chris oh lavi we're gonna have a hard time producing it this clip. If they don't have some help. And i don't think it's the lack of talent. I think we just don't use them. I mean those tight ends we have to. Nfl tight ends. We don't use them but all in all good game. Good game for the buckeyes. I mean great. Win on offense really productive win. Justin was phenomenal. Cj stroud how about that leading the team in yards per attempt right now probably didn't even look it up but one run for forty nine yards just athletic dude. Man future's bright at the quarterback position. Him and jack miller and then the guy's coming in really really going to be interesting to see who. The quarterback is who is the heir apparent for justin fields. That's the question and that's going to be a big hot topic next spring but we got a season to worry about. I then on defense. I will say this. It was the best defense performance of the year. I complete game. Four quarters of defense. Baron is a much much better than tough at mike linebacker. He was highest greater defensive player. As i predicted he would be. And i think two things happened here right one is they had a covert by week where they could of correct things right. Some things get together as a staff. Do what they wanted to do in a more efficient manner right. They corrected things in that covert by week that two week period the other thing. That is of note. I'm not saying this is what happened but it looked like at times you had two captains driving different wheels trying to control a ship right ships going down one captain. Turner right dealer cabinet stern left. They're trying to sync up simultaneously. Sheer. the ship. steered the ship on saturday. Greg madison's not their carry combs free rein to run the defense calling calling all the shots doing everything much smoother production. Let's call it that much smoother defensive performance and i'm not blaming it on that i think most of it is the covert by week. But you can't have to. Ceo's you can have a ceo and a vice president or a coo. You've got to handle your job right. So other is excellent. Excellent see. We needed to see ohio state. Put away a bad team too. Many of these these below average teams have crept back in the second half and ohio state finally did it. They played tough in the second. Half dominant on third down rocky. Lombardi ended up going out of the game. Peyton thord came in and couldn't do anything i actually liked. Peyton thorn he. He kind of exposed ohio state's defense to an extent scrambling around the run game was non existent for michigan state. Ohio state shut that down haskell garrett and tommy toby absolute monsters led by larry johnson's rush when the interim head coach for the week his the top four players zach harrison ninety two percent haskell garrett tommy toby tyreek smith i mean that's that's what you want your winning up front. You're winning games. Zach here is still cannot find the quarterback and get a sack but other ninety four pressure so outstanding gave up front haskell garrett's pick out of you call it a pick six. It is but he caught in the end zone so you didn't have to run anywhere. Has shared with the big pick six. He's just dominant dominant bouncing back from that gunshot wound and playing the way he's playing just phenomenal phenomenal. And then probably the best game of the secondary. Sean wade played extremely well. Incredible diving pick on that errant throw on the slant route but wildly athletic play. Ronnie hickman stepped in and played. Well i thought he he. He's a star in the making he. He looked really good and marcus. Williams is the source of the defense right now struggled and he he's that's been a regular occurrence. He struggled pretty consistently throughout the year. So i mean all in all win for the buckeye. Right buckeyes right. I mean it was not a formidable opponent. Not a great opponent but ohio state has struggled a little bit with the maryland. Not maryland's with the indiana thirty five seven and they let them battle back. You know some of these teams rutgers. My gosh that was ugly second-half so some of these teams that ohio state hasn't put away. They finally put one away and so kudos hats off to the staff and the players for handling adversity the way they handled it. Just excellent game really good to see. Now it's gonna come down to kind of things. That ohio state doesn't control who they play when they play him. And what's the reality of the future the prospect of this season. It's really depressing. But great win for the bucks and really happy. For larry johnson getting that w as the interim head coach one final topic to talk about before we get up outta here on his fine tuesday. I i'm blown away by and you know everyone listened to show knows my feelings on tom. Herman i'm certainly the furthest thing from tom. Herman apologised right Ever there's no one that could be claimed to to be that less than me right but what's mind blowing to me is the way that texas is going about what they're doing right. They didn't publicly offer. Urban meyer job. They didn't publicly say they were talking to him. But urban meyer came out and basically said he turned down texas finally after courting or considering their offer right it was reported by every media outlet urban meyer thought about it and decided to pull out of the texas job and it made me think about like what is that. What is texas do now. I mean they have an active employed head coach. The guy you have a head coach like running a team right now and you're actively out there not to discreetly discussing with another coach. Come take the job. How tom herman supposed to lead the team have respect from the players recruit anyone. I mean back when it was just rumors that urban was coming. That was that. Tom was being a little petulant baby and complaining but now like urban coming out and saying i decided not to take the job. It's like wait a minute. Turn not to take what job. There's no job open. it's just crazy that does happening. I'm not saying it's not deserved especially after now. I'm hearing from my sources that tom's been having an affair with billionaire. Jewelry mogul her name. But he's having an affair with some billionaire. jewelry mogul. it's just like yeah. This guy is a clown deserves get fired but to be fair to him. Texas administration. Chris del conte. They're not doing them any favors here. I mean you're going to actively pursue urban meyer just and now what now arben said no. Now what do you do. I'll tell you what they're not gonna fire him because there's no big name out there that they feel like they can get. That could make that a smart decision. So they're going to ride it out with tom. Herman all the while his team and players know they didn't want him to be the head coach anymore his recruits know trying to get a different head coach like who is signing up to play at texas no matter who the coaches right now. If with an athletic program did that to the head coach. I'm telling you right now. You have both arms tied behind your back in a in a gunfight like good luck i mean. It's absurd that that they would do that. And i mean i don't feel bad for tom. Karma's bitch he's getting what he deserves but that was not the way to operate. I mean if you're going to do that you better keep an extremely discreet. So no one finds out. Keep it between trace armstrong and maybe even a third party. And i mean don't make it so public that everyone can track and know that you're having these conversations and then the fact that urban had to come out and pull out of it just criminal to texas fans it's criminal to in the players the texas players texas fans the way this whole thing's been handled is absolutely criminal. So wanna bring that up. Just throw it out there not a whole lot to talk about because there were a lot of great games this past weekend and now we got covid hitting so. I'm gonna. i'm working on a little something special hopefully to replace the game We'll see what it is. I'm working on it. We'll see if i can get it done but anyways thank you for tuning in. Thanks for listening as always i appreciate you. Hope you educated entertained and or at least enjoyed my rants on this fine tuesday if you didn't if you didn't like it if you don't like me go fuck yourself san diego zone and you love me. Oh be pleased to know the last time. I don't care anymore joking. I never did truck sevilla's in position to lecture the public about anything you know. Nothing about the real world after the ten fifteen twenty twenty-five thirty thirty five forty forty five fifty forty five. He's got a football guy. Lucky to me the press can band speaking trouble. Free five michigan state genuine watts. Get the fuck outta here seal.

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"Dan. Ball we. Short. Noon! Good morning all church in with you today it's a Friday that means pays off 'cause that's pretty much been the cadence all summer. Joining me. Eric Nordquist high other side of the glass today. Yes, social distancing social distancing. Now whatever we may have shared before the show in close proximity between us to be clear, that is correct absolutely, and that was just two consenting adults that enjoyed being in within six six feet of each other. Yes, yes. Whether. That was five feet, eleven, inches, or less will be the listener. To decide for themselves theater of the Mind Wiley leave people wanted more I I'd like to think so yes. As back on Monday I assume is back on Tuesday. It's back on Tuesday. WHO's in on Monday I'll be end were obviously ramping up to the baseball season that starts down Lavelli Neil. The third will be in studio with me for an extended jump. And Yeah, we're going to have fun on a Monday now. You doing the trick with Lavelle where you tell him you want him at nine thirty and then, but you secretly want him at ten so that I'll be on time. You know here's here's west of fate. Yeah, you know. He still has the. In the phone, related issues. Yeah, that's just a forever. AMSOIL emery. Yes but. I will say this about Lavelli Neil the third. He is tremendously tremendously punctual during the purge. Rally yes, so he does not have nothing else to do so that you think the whole problem before that he's had a job I think he's just a very preoccupied. Matt I guess so one way or another, but whereas so much has changed some for the better some for the worst, obviously, during the last four or five months for Lavelle, he's always on time now. The most comfortable that's weird. I don't have to wait for him I. Don't wonder where he is. He's just he's always ready. He'll be with me on Monday so i. don't even know can't imagine what that's like. You learn a lot about the lavelle coming up in the twin season begins. In earnest and almost is almost exactly a week, right? It's next. Friday Chicago the white sauce. Then we've got NFL training camps two weeks away the week after that training camp in two weeks away. It's all it's all coming together now. It's we've we've certainly paid our news. We've got what we finally have sports and we're GONNA have all four sports at one time. Yes, that it's all. It's funny. How you get nothing nothing nothing then you're going to get four sports now. Cynics like me have already. Basically written off this the NBA part of this. And the NHL part of this for reasons discussed on prior shows. I'm not willing to call this a Stanley Cup Championship. I'm not willing to call this a naismith championship. Larry O'Brien. Thank you. Larry, O'Brien championship. Because you can't have a three-month interruption. Everybody gets healthy and comes back. It's just it's not the same. If they frame it up in such a way. That just says you know what we're going out here to to play the game. We love figure out. Who's the best right now? and. We're not. GonNa call it. It's not the same thing. It's gotta the Astrakhan on the end. It's not the Stanley Cup. If these guys are hoisted Stanley Cup at the end I'm not I'm not interested because it's not, it's a farce. Now the Wild Win I'm going to be, pretty happy. To. The. On this, but the parades still counts and it. You know fifty years from now. We may not be alive, but. Those that will hope not it'll be yeah. We'll be looking through the history books of the National Hockey League or the NBA And, they may see an asterisk may not who knows they're never going to remember Oh. Yeah, that was that pandemic did the painter, or even you know similarly to those that were living in the nineteen fifties or sixties. They were like Oh yeah. I guess. They were playing baseball. They had to wear some masks for awhile meanwhile. Fifty, million people died of the flu, but I have century later. Nobody nobody can conceptualize or mentally connect to that so fifty years from now, if the Minnesota wild are able to topple Vancouver and then I don't know where that sends. Saint Louis whoever, but if they win the Stanley Cup counts and matters and NBA by the way when you have. The NBA playoffs for me. Two or three teams matter. It's the Lakers the clippers, and then the box saw them east. As long as those teams want to win and do they I'm sure they do. Is Soon they. Do you secret can't down? They're not just going to turn it off correct, so that's why that's why I look at it differently charged. I think it's a big deal. I think I think if they hoist the trophy. They should be given. They give. Let's give them the credit for that. I I can give them credit, but I wanted to be different credit. That's all. As discussed a month ago when we we talked about this in great detail, it's just different when you have a three four month layoff. It just isn't the same thing that used to be. And I brought this many former athletes that have been in the studio, and they also the same thing part of what's getting to the championship is all about the grind, and and and the perseverance, and the endurance to get through a whole regular season, and then go right into. Into the playoffs and maintain your mental sharpness and keep everybody healthy and get to the end and all. That's lost. Okay, all of that is out the window. Okay in this format, so it shouldn't be the same guess what what the two hundred fifty million sports, fans and American. They're not gonNA care. They've been on the yeah okay. That's where roles have been reversed. Okay, so for what's the athletes who've been on the grind and we watch and we're just throwing. Throwing peanuts from the upper deck in the theater were thumbs up thumbs down in the Roman, coliseum roles have been reversed. We have been on the grind for the last couple months. Yeah, and they take. They're all living in mansions. You know it's they have been. They haven't been spending four months in a one bedroom apartment with two kids and a spouse. They don't like sweating. The landlord put the bad piece of paper on the door. Says you have thirty days to evacuate correct, so the roles of the grind related aspect have been reversed. Reversed so I feel no sympathy. I want them to of course. Be Safe, but I want them to get out there and give something to cheer for and get excited about during a weird summer coming up over the course of the show, we will talk about the debacle with The Washington pro football team Steve's even from the team nine eighty in Washington will join us at nine thirty five to give us a sense of what's going on directly in the beast. In fact, I think the team nine eighty is owned by the redskins. While they were the flagship team formerly known as the Redskins see if they still are. I believe they are the flagship station I. Know that for sure so we'll get Steve's out. We'll get steve's thoughts on that. We will it's GonNa take by the way to get when teams move I'm going to call the Raiders Oakland. Many times I'm going to call the Washington pro football team redskins. It's just GONNA take time to get to undo. Years case in the case of Washington a lifetime of calling the team one thing you know, it's another thing to call it yet, which is which and this came up I was. I was tweeting yesterday and I'm trying to work around. Trying to say the team name, but don't have another team to call it and I have to try to call it the professional football team that resides in Washington or whatever you say, Washington it sometimes, it just doesn't work I understand. Yeah, but on how how the phrasing goes I'm excited to hear the the the way that the Washington. Post laid out everything tremendous run by them. It really does look very thorough. It was it was weird how you had people in the sports industry like Hey, get ready for this I. Mean it was? It was an absolutely awful terrible story? Really feel like it needed a collective like media Ram rob for four days. We're hearing about this damning story. That's GONNA come out! That's GONNA. Shake the NFL to its foundations and what it ended up doing is. I think it ended up almost trivializing the story because apple. It seemed like. Who would talk about? It would try to one up the severity of the story that's coming around the Washington pro football team. Yeah, and it and it wasn't like you heard you. Owner Daniel Snyder is is is hosting parties that include all of these crazy drugs. And there were there were zoo animals involved like now. That's that's something like you will never believe that. The real story that comes out is Oh my God. That's awful. That's hideous. That's terrible. That's the worst thing I've heard in years. Thing and the the people that were jacking up about how big the story! We're going to get talking about having on the field ramifications which the story really doesn't. I think only ended up serving to diminish the story when Iraq and the story should be diminished at all, so we'll talk about that a little bit. It's not necessarily the most enjoyable topic we've ever had, but an important one, nonetheless Dave cynic and joins us. We'll talk a little bit as again training camp two weeks away, the status of the primary rival to the Minnesota Vikings. We'll talk about all the various things that have happened it and things that didn't happen in the packers offseason off scenes of NOCCO. The way anybody expected. We'll talk through that Chad greenway ten o'clock, as well Chad, variety of topics around chat and one of the things I'm GonNa talk to chat about. And we don't do this enough I think. What did his agent really get him? Over the course of his his deals, his agent make in two three four percent or something like that. Probably made deep into six figures off chat. What does your agent actually do to deserve that kind of money and looking back? Did you even need an agent? So. What do I do? What do you even need to have one? What are the value that agents break? We'll talk about that. Among a variety of other topics with with Chad, greenway and. Last hour. Yeah, here we go, it's it's about that time. Congratulations, sir, fantasy football season is an on the cusp. We're GONNA talk fantasy football in the final hour. Myself and Brian Johnson Coz from fantasy football weekly. We will We'll dive into a variety of fantasy football. Related topics can't wait to get to that, too. In particular, maybe a certain type of league. Yeah, maybe we'll get into that. Next segment is John. Maybe something that you're spearheading with the entrepreneurial spirit that the charts your name hold so proudly. Yeah, very excited to do that final hour. I can't wait can't wait. It's going to be It's going to be very fun. We got a glorious three hours on a beautiful day in Minnesota A. You want to check out this keyword contests wwl breakout I can't wait the fan. Obviously and wickson jewelers wickson jewelers. Our buddies in wixom jewelers. Here's what they WANNA do whether. It's Dave Egan. It's the other many winners. That just for listening to the fan nine to noon in particular shows throughout the day you texting a keyword, you win a thousand dollars. Let's put a grand and somebody's hand. wickson jewelers burn a hole in their pocket. They WANNA. Give it to. You Texas Keyword it. Is Family text family to two hundred two hundred text, the word family to two hundred two hundred big thanks to wickson jewelers for helping us out with this put a grand in somebody's hand text family to two hundred two hundred text message and data rates apply. This is one of the I'm so glad you played this. You know this is one of the most underrated. radiohead songs maybe just overall rock songs, which I didn't get until I picked up guitar. Start trying to play. Yeah, it's got this early part now. That's very dreamy vocals stuff, and then it just turns rocket later on which I love and one of the great things that radio had does. Is Even within one song you can have all of these ebbs flows valley's tops, downs and really. Sophisticated Guitar, parts which I love. I love radio heads. In a few minutes we'll be joined by Steve from the team. Nine eighty in Washington, and he double dips on the game. In Milwaukee yes well, and so he's. He's the person I know that's doing to. Radio shows a day. He does Milwaukee in the morning, and then he does so. He's doing morning drive in Milwaukee. He's doing evening drive. Afternoon. Drive in Washington DC. Now the beauty of it is. Half of your contents to the same stuff. mean. You're film three hours, but I gotTA figure a lot of a lot of your stuff. You do your you do takes your morning takes carry over to the afternoon for half year contract. That's the beauty of and you get paid twice while I'm curious I mean some of it is is a is a is a mash. Certainly, but there's no sports right now. Yeah, so the difficulty and I think there's an art to it and the and. and. This is you talk about the theater of the mind as we were saying last segment and and radio in general, there are many people who might live in Kansas City but they do radio or Dallas. Texas we've got something we've got to the point. Where half of the music deejays in the world here or at least in the country art in the cities in which their voices being heard, yeah, the times have certainly changed. Yeah, there's. No doubt about that, but. I think there's an art to being able to connect with the market that you're technically not in and Zaven for doing you know long time work in the in the capital city area, and now being able to branch out and do that. He's been syndicated. I think whether it will Fox sports or NBC sports in the past as well so he's been in the business a long time. High Level long time so I'm excited to all talk, Washington pro football team stuff with him in the story in the post yesterday that broke. Fifteen women tell the Washington Post that they were sexually harassed during their time working for the club only. One of the fifteen women that were internal to the team. have put their name out. The others remained anonymous, but two of the fifteen were also reporters covering the team on the beat yeah. How dumb do you have to be to sexually harass? Women reporters journalists on the beat. GIF Ain't. They might have an outlet to talk about this. Wow The post interviewed forty people for the story. They also reviewed text messages and internal company documents. Dan Snyder was not one of the people ever named in the sexual harassment. But. We've seen these situations. Bring Down People at the top because there's going to be and it's, it's already starting. The feeling is your shutting out. If you did know that this culture was happening inside your company. And didn't stop it. You should be out. And if you didn't know, your should've known and you should be out. Yeah, there's going to be a lot of pressure. For Dan Snyder to be forced to sell the team. Now I've I mean just in that simple point and it's it's difficult. You want evidence to condemn. When it comes to Snyder now. Snyder's been generally unsavory and not well liked. From public standpoint throughout tenure. Would he bought the Redskins? Sorry again. It's GonNa. Take years potentially months. I don't know how long to undo a lifetime of this. When he bought the Washington football pro football team say Washington. Maybe afford to buy, Washington He. He went in and fired most of the staff including long time beloved employees, the receptionist who had been there for thirty years stuff like that right? And Did so it without any. Care about who was being let go. How important they were role in the organization, just clean out your all got, and just start started. Just brought out, brought his all people, many of whom had no football, knowledge or background whatsoever it'd be like started badly for dance night. It'd be like if the wolves had walked in there like we don't need Dennis Ryan. The Equipment Guy Dash been there since the freaking sixties, right? Yeah, we, just I want my own equipment guy it'd be. It'd be obscure things like that. Which obviously the Wilson do and Dennis Ryan Kicks Ass, but an and you've got your own equipment guide because he helped you at your Robo calling company that built you your millions. Yeah, and the thing for me with where you were going with that with Snyder. Though is I, don't you WANNA have evidence to condemn him, but we've both worked in environments that include an office that include a guy that a guy or Gal that has a corner office, and then when the you know when the door is closed, conversations and interpersonal relationships began in communicating and all of those things. It's hard for me to believe at this level when we're talking about the person. The top personnel guys in the organization and others that played pivotal roles in the The Washington operation that Snyder did not know, and and it, and it is a you know it's A. Complicit it's it's being complicit by inaction, if that makes sense or just kind of turning away from what you know is happening, and and allowing that volatility to evolve, and maybe you know on the front end you see something that could have been misconstrued it was it was an innocent interaction, but then if you just allow those things to kind of snowball over the course of A. A decade now you have a situation where the Washington Post is interviewing forty people and putting a very damning article out there, and as the owner of the team regardless of the totality of his understanding, and and and and knowing what's going on. He is culpable for the caller within his with his organization that say that and I don't particularly like Dan Snyder. People can tell but. For example the wolves run the vikings from their officer. New Jersey. They don't run the office in Egan Minnesota. How much they know about the culture of what's happening in Egan it would be very unclear. They might know a lot. They might know a little I. Don't know they're not physically there now. If dance. Snyder's in that building five days a week if he's got an office that he's at every day, I, think you probably know well. That's fair. That's that's there's one I don't know how connected Dan Snyder is to. The day-to-day operations is inside the building, is he? He communicates, and how often I don't know so. I'm not ready to throw him under the bus yet, but let's detail some of the things that have happened. Inside the building and it will make you wonder how he couldn't have known. Several men who were named in the story, some already quit including longtime play by play guy. The Voice of the team formerly known as Redskins Larry Michael now Larry Michael on the station many times. We've had him on a bunch. We play. We play them. We will We'll have a MoD hey Larry Michael what's going on. What's happening Adrian Peterson now in the mix there or case keenum. We want to hear updates on that yeah I think we had him on. We may have had him on last season. He was the play by play guy. He was also the vice president of content. For The Washington pro football team, so that means you know. He was inside the building lot, and he was named copiously in this story, so was much of the pro personnel department. Who are all gone Alex Santos? Director pro personnel accused by six former employees and to reporters of sexual harassment. Richard Man Assistant Director of pro personnel. The Washington Post viewed a text message in which man told a female employees that he and his colleagues had debated whether her breasts had been augmented or not. The former COO Mitch Gershman accused of Berating a female play over trivial matters, and then also complimenting her body, an accusation that's been backed up by other employees. Dennis Green not our Dennis Green this is Dennis Green with an e. on the end former president of business operation who urged female employees to wear low cut blouses tight skirts flirt with suit holders suite holder. Excuse me and according to five different employees that I'll validated the claim. He left the team in twenty eighteen after it was revealed that he was the guy who sold access to the redskins. Cheerleaders remember that bit. I think they. They were trying to coerce them into doing like a topless photo. Shoot or something yeah. The, get this the reds. The Washington pro football team's front office. Had Two hundred twenty employees. One person in HR and it wasn't her full time job. One person. Show! Former. Female employees. Employees and female employees at the time would find out would find female new hires and have to give them their version of an orientation. Yeah, which was you gotTa avoid this guy? You gotTA avoid this guy. Don't get caught in the stairwell alone about the glass stairwell. You gotta be kidding me where they knew that that was a hot spot for people with the organization to just stand under it. And Look at women as they walked up the stairs. The Washington Post story, Scott screen grabs of the text messages that these men sent. It's so ham handed disheartening, disgusting pathetic. And it's real. It's heartbreaking to to see the text messages that sort of bring it to a light beyond just the Washington Post. Telling US what it said. When you actually see it, you can see the conversation unfolding. Awful it's. And it it's widespread enough in these. These guys acted with such a sense of immunity. That you have to wonder about the entire culture and that's where Dan Snyder comes back into play. That's where he's culpable. Yes, YEP, When we come back from break, we'll catch up with Steve Zaven from the team nine eighty in Washington He's got his fingers on the pulse of the story of course and the reaction in Washington itself will the fan name name. A. Church in with you very pleased to be joined by my good friend Steve Zaven from the team, nine, hundred and Washington and also the game in Milwaukee Hi Steve Charts, my man top of the morning good morning. You've got your finger on the pulse of what's happening in Washington. How big of a story is this? It's funny, because it's a huge story, I think it's going to have big ramifications, but because of the way the Internet works these days and people getting way ahead of the story. Yeah, a lot of people are like. Oh Oh, that's all it is yeah and I'm like. I'm like what that's not enough for you. This is not bad enough. What are you crazy? But this is what happens when I got everybody in the world texting. He San I'm just heard this from a little birdie sex trafficking. Riding NFL referees, there's this. There's drug you some like as soon as I started seeing the same sort of Internet. Urban legend rumors floating around. I said okay. This report is not going to be nearly as salacious. Some people want because it was a week of lead up. In order to stop it. Sorry something thumping on their opening like. Yeah I'm like it was a week of lead up of people imagining how bad could it be in some kind of overshot the mark, but this is bad, no question about it. Yeah, we talked about the exact same thing thing last segment that the the all of the hype that led up to this and all the leaks and everything else and people. You know people that seem to know what was going on. Saying this had on the field ramifications, which doesn't appear to really have meaningful on the field ramifications it end up. trivializing a very serious story which? Appears to Pierce to have been all right so the other thing. We spent a lot of time talking about already this morning Steve Is. How high up is there is the responsibility go? Does this reach up to Dan? Snyder and one of the key things we're trying to figure out is how cool is there? Is there is there? Is there way he didn't know? How, how integrated into the day-to-day operations is Dan? Snyder does the office in the building as the there five days a week. Can you give us a sense of of whether or not Dan, Snyder an angle here where Snyder didn't know. Probably didn't know because he doesn't care. He doesn't know a lot of things because he is a self. Assist. So. The, exonorated him or does that indict him I. Don't know all I know is that this is the culture that he has developed a lot of this to a lot of us. Charge is no shock. A lot of us who have been close to this team and work with his team, and covered this team and Ben in the building and known the people involved in the team. Yeah, this is one of the least shocking stories ever because we have known having to deal with people in the building whether they're pr directors or trainers or whoever that Dan Snyder hires consistently mediocre people at best, if not outright latkes for jerks, because that's is culture, so this has been going. Going on for a long time, will reach Snyder. I don't know the dynamics of part of me wants to say this has got to destabilize. He's got minority investors trying to sell their shares and having a hard time doing so they've gotta go to a broker to see if they can't get them move to somebody else new part. There's GONNA WANNA. Say Hey, if I'm going to invest thirty percent in a two billion dollar asset to have some say term we did. Not like that at all so. I think it's it's destabilizing, but every time I I started during the big dream of every redskin fan right now are seem to be Red Hawk Fan, or soon to be red tail fan or whatever? The big dream is this pop. Snyder. But then I looked to Indianapolis and I. Guess Not Jim Irsay. He's still the. Right he was supplying. He was supplying pills to his girlfriend, and she overdosed and died in the apartment that he dumped her with club money. He's still owner Yeah I. Don't know man. He's NFL. Owners don't really like to house their own, because it can lead to others following the same victim now Jerry Richardson. Analogy is one that people are saying. Hey, similar thing sexual harassment in the workplace. The only difference is that Jerry, Richardson themselves was leaving handwritten notes to secretaries, recommending what they wear a work. Yeah, and so that's a direct link. Snyder apparently doesn't have those direct links, and that's what might save him. That's how might stay savings. Abe Is, I might be hard to get his hands dirty in an enough of a way that the league decides to Take Action and act, and actually somehow force him to sell the club. If you're if you'RE GONNA get, today is today's the seventeenth I think seventeenth seventeenth of July seventeenth of July next year. Is He. Is Dan Snyder? The owner of The team formerly known as Redskins. I think it's. Forty five. Yes, fifty five. No. So that's that's an incredible number. Given what we had thought just a month ago. I mean nobody even thought about him. Possibly having a cell Aquino month ago, so things are moving very fast. It's usually the the lowest number I've ever in my mind on. This could actually happen. The key thing is going to be this new stadium which has been desperately trying to get built now for a while. He's trying to play footsie with three different jurisdictions. Maryland Virginia and the district. The staking belongs in DC where the old RFK site was, because it's the center of the sprawling tristate region, and it brings everyone together, and it's a much better place downtown than it was twenty years ago. Problem is that's on federal land? You gotTa go through the Feds Sport I. Then you gotTa deal with the district. The desktop is not always the easiest to deal with and hello. WHO's the mayor? The honorable Muriel houser a woman. Do you think a woman after miss is GonNa? Work hand in. Hand can like Dan Snyder with a culture like that and say here's your billion dollar new price. Good, luck on that so if it's possible again, we're talking to Stephen from the team nine eighty in Washington and the game in Milwaukee. Is it possible that. Snyder realizes. I'm never going to get the stadium so I'm just going to sell and without without the NFL mandating it. He just gives up on the stadium because there's no viable pathway to the stadiums, the team's never gonNA to be worth materially more than it is right now because stadiums inject the so much value to the club that if he can't get that new stadium, he just goes. You know what it's just not worth it anymore. I'M GONNA take. He'll get a billion dollars for it I'M GONNA take my billion and just go home. You know. I don't know what it's like to be a billionaire. Among the out some day, but I'm happy accident yeah. There are. Not a lot of winners in the world, but there's more than you think. There's only thirty two owners of NFL teams right and I think that carries with a charge. They real cachet. If Dan Snyder would say hey, I'll make a ton of money I'll sell. I'll just go away. What does he become? He becomes just another shirt. He'll. With no status, no team and the guy who basically wreck the franchise Nas the name. Lost the team. Cloaked in chain, even older guys like Donald Sterling didn't WanNA. Give it up. Yeah, goodbye, Jerry Richardson didn't WanNa. Give it up, but at least there was easier to Kinda. PRY them away because they're seventy years old. Yeah. That's eight twenty I i. hope it happens, but I don't know it's GonNa be tough. The sponsors will dictate. How much of a fight? It's going to be well. They dictated the name change. That's right, so do the new sponsors new. There's three pressure points sponsors minority. Owners Stadium. Those three pressure points right there if they make it abundantly clear to Snyder, and I guess the fourth pressure point could be league, but I don't know about the league, because sometimes I think the league. Would for sure want a force out? Like I said the League has its own sort of way. It looks at things and a lot of ways. They say we'd read them out of the controversy. Part of the reason they said well. We'll defer to this more of their hired until we make our decision on a disciplined. That's the league saying we don't need this right now. We're trying to stand up a season in the middle of a pandemic. You probably knew Larry Michael You may have known some of the other people named in this story Alex, Santos Richard. Man Mitch Gershman Dennis Green the other Dennis Green not our Dennis Green. Do you? Do you have any doubt about the validity veracity of the story by The Washington Post. Well, it's a hundred percent accurate, and it's only the tip of the iceberg. This is the of outfit. He's been running. It's been a it's been an old boy. Social Network Drinking Club and also played football on Sundays in the fall and poorly that. You, know you you saying. What's the culture like and I? Say Look at the of. The record will tell you what the culture is. The record says it all the record is twenty two starting quarterbacks in twenty years of ownership. It's ten head coaches in twenty years. It's two coaches and basically quit on them Snyder. Spur and Gibbs. Much walked away. Wait, what you're quitting. Yeah, I'm quitting. It's endless scandal after farce after joke, it's much Shannon and leaking oil all the way through his final season, and then trying to close stories on his way out the door disaster, this team specially, and it's all from the culture. It all comes from the top and I'll give you one example of how the culture is and has been in that building. Thousand thirteen fourteen skins make the playoffs, which is like a you know it's like neuner. Washington. So it's a big thing. We've got home playoff game the right, get those once every Haley's coming. And it's against the packers undoing a radio show with Chris Cooley for the station on now, which was owned at the time by the team there since dumped it on the side of the rate. Because like everything, is it? They didn't give any attention or care. I'm doing the show with cooling studio in Redskins Park. We gotta to break coolly ducks out. I guess to go get a soda. Go to the bathroom whatever. Come back from commercial break only. Another minute to and it's three minutes. Finally comes did mid break I'm carrying the show. We had a break after that night. The MIC drop and go cooling. and. We gotTA. Show going on here. It's like Oh. Yeah, man, sorry about that. I had to go to Bruce's office. This'll be Bruce Allin. Office record my score and I go what Myers out he goes. He Goes Oh yeah Bruce. Has This like makeshift Putt Putt course nine hundred four in his office. In office and he goes Oh yeah office is huge. Look like fifty feet long and I go, so, what is this? He goes well every week. We want a little game and everyone in the office. That's part of this group you know me and some other guys and some coaches. We record our score and I said. You know you're playing the Green Bay packers at home then. You'd think that. I'm like this resumes. He's like Oh. Yeah, that there's no worries aid. They're still focused on that and I. Just shook my head as an outsider, I shook my head thinking. I know this doesn't go on at one Patriot place in New England. Imagine. I would imagine that most NFL facilities playoff game home game week of you are on a full red alert. It is pins and needles walk briskly. Keep your head down and beyond point and yet here's the team president. Holding PUTT PUTT contests in his office I said that tells me all I need to know the fame organization that here's a Kirk story for you got a second. Yeah, we got about two more minutes. Okay so here is doing his thing over achieving yes, and he wants to come in on Mondays to watch film at the facility. Just do it at home on his IPAD, but he likes being at work. Well on Mondays the only film Marines are used by the coaching staff couple of different stations. While the team is like Oh. God, are starting. quarterback wants to film as well and the silly on Mondays. What do we do they end up? Cleaning out literally a small closet. And putting a folding table monitoring there and there was a picture in a story in the post about how? Here's. Film Room on Monday does that screen to you? State of the art spare no expense. Oh. My God I. Starting quarterback wants to watch more film. My God. Let's make the best of the best know. Bruce Allen has a fifty foot long office. I've seen that photo. Kirk literally can't. You can't extend your arms left and right to without running into the walls of this of this closet that they put in, so we could watch film. That those are the small things that tell you all you need to know about. The Culture Dan Snyder purports to be a big Fan of the team in twenty years. I've only seen glimpses of it. They're still people here. That will blame Kirk for what happened with the Redskins team formerly known as the Redskins, and not and not the team in even hearing everything you said. It's so obvious that it wasn't Kirk. It was the day. Yeah, let me tell you the day that they decided they were not gonNA. You know signed Pirker Trade Kirk of whatever. I was shown a text a photo op. People Redskin staffers facility. Gleefully big goofy smiles. They're moving pictures. Kirk from the walls at Redskins Park and I said okay so, you're winning. Winning! Do you guys I don't care what people say for peasants to sixty million. The redskins laughed in their face, walked out the door, and it now put another hundred and twenty on top of it. Go whatever you WANNA say about him. He's not losing. No now. Kirkstall Turks he got. He got his money and he got out of the lease stable organization in football. That's an absolute win for him. You are the best. Thank you Steve. Talk to you guys. bye-bye Steve! Zaven! The team nine eighty in Washington the game in Milwaukee when we come back, I'm not looking at the photo. It's unbelievable. You've not seen this photo Kirk in the closet now. He does have enough room for an office chair. What appears to be maybe a curry. LCD. And that's it. He might be watching tape using like s video. Are you kidding me. That's a pro franchise. Right there unbelievable. You have to do everything right to be a winning pro team right? Yeah, it's so hard to be consistently. Great Raven consistently good. You have to do so many things right? and. I knew it was bad. And I don't Steve for years now. I I had heard many of these stories I news bad. I didn't know this bat. That's awful. It's on. That is unbelievable. When we come back Chad is Chad in studio. Fault Jazz, going to be on the hotline. Chad Chad greenway will join us I want to get his thoughts on. On this a little bit on this subject, but also more on the field stuff and I want to get into Derrick Henry, a little bit, and then just what the heck and agent even does for a player, and if he looks back and his time, having paid his agent, probably well into six figures. Was that even worth it? Would you rather have that money back now? I WanNa talk to him a little bit about that as well so jagr now. ADS Welcome back show Paul charging him four for today. He'll be back on Tuesday. Nordahl will be with you on Monday. I. Burn in their vacation because the sports firing back up baseball seasons a week away, football turning camps two weeks away. The basketball seasons now. Are we about little? Away doll coming together. Sports returning. You know you're not mentioning hockey. Major League Soccer Major League. Soccer's going right now going right now. that. I'm glad some people care now. I saw your squad at some thrilling last minute victory about a week ago. Have they done since then well? They've done nothing because they tonight. Oh, that's it they they play once a week. Brielle Salt Lake. Real Salt Lake. I mean you wouldn't believe the. -olutely Yes for decades or at least months. Yeah. They played tonight at nine thirty, so if you're still up where they playing down in Orlando, they're in their own got their own bubble there in their own bubble. Why? Why Orlando the biggest bubble. Hotspot state. HOW DID ORLANDO GET TO BE THE BUBBLE? I know they got a lot of hotel rooms. And maybe that's why and a lot of availability. Maybe that's why I think. I think the key to it though is that Florida was one of the states early on that said we're going to open up and yeah, come down here. Whereas other states. Maybe there were more restrictions place, and all those. That's part of it. I don't know ultimately. Hey, you know. Let's put soccer teams down there and get the best product and Oh yeah. It's going to be eighty. Five degrees with one hundred percent humidity at nine am every day. I can't take that little bit of grant. Look at me. You know I can't take that. Chad Greenway Hello How's it going boys? How many how doing today? We're doing. We're doing fine. We're not We're not associated with the Washington football team which helps. Yes, I have not read report yet Wearing not to laugh when I came up because it's not a laughing matter at I've not read the report. I've only read the headlines Gimme. GimMe the Gimme the ten second. Fifteen fifteen different women have told the Washington Post that they were sexually harassed during their time working for the club the most women remained anonymous, but the post interviewed forty people for the story that collaborated collaborated their accounts, and they reviewed text messages internal company documents, and it's It's bad. It was a it was just a sewer there from everything. Everything that it it looks like and it goes. It goes pretty close to the top. They people have lost. Their jobs have been named included their director of PRO personnel assistant director pro personal. Their former CEO the former president of business operations, their longtime play by play Guy Larry Michael All people that have been named in either been fired or recently quit. Wow so yeah. I guess the best part is if there's documentation, there's emails and internal stuff that gets. Light obviously, that's going to be a pretty easy case. They least put against you know either the management of that organization ownership, but you know the ownership probably. going. To change there, but but you can hold them accountable. and I think that's a nice to be able to have. Obviously, if there's a case there, we'll find it. and that's the best part is. We can get to the root of if this is made up well, there won't be documentation. Did you ever talk to well I? mean you may be Kirk. Did you ever talk to other players who played in Washington and you know their experiences with that broken franchise? We just had Steve's Ebanon from the team. Nine eighty in Washington and some stuff he was saying was unbelievable about what goes on inside that organization. Have you talked to former players of left there and what? Their experiences were like playing for Washington? Only Kirk cousins briefly and this that he was actually still airplane with them, and that was an active player, and he just was really frustrated with with more than management, his lack of get a long term contract being franchise Yeah full-time. Didn't necessarily and we all know Kirk. You know if anything is an absolute. Great moral person, and you would think that if something was really really gross negligence had seen if I would have brought that up and say hey, playing orgainzation, because of X.. Y. Z. I never got that. I never got that from him necessarily but I. Never Really No. I. Don't really know anybody. You know great length to play. There was wildly upset with how they were treated or the the organization. The way that it sounds I think anybody who played. There would not want to stay and now if you should have Adrian Peterson cell phone number some point. You should reach out. Find out what it's like to be there to be good. Yeah no I I see to Asia and attack. We could we I. I would love to hear his opinion on it. When are they announcing the name by the way? I, get another. We know that we don't know what the tiny. What, they've said is they've got a name in mind, but it's currently trademarked by somebody, so they've got to try to work their way around that, so you know we don't know. That bought all these different yeah! Yeah! He saw a task. Somebody saw coming right it was you know you're somebody? Put Washington, and then every viable name bought all the URL trademarked everything and I. Guess you know sought coming, and you could have easily seen it coming. Any of US could have done anything that makes Dan. Dan Snyder's life and just process more difficult I think you need to celebrate that the. Is Red is red tails, the leader in the clubhouse I wanted to be in the espionage. I doubt is there are Vegas odds on it? They're literally. You can bet what the team name is going to be in red tails is the leader I don't have the odds in front of me, but I saw it go by in my twitter feed at some point over the past few days, so yes, you can bet that now, which is why not you can bet you can bet anything. I love it absolutely I want. This is off subject and I'm changing the subject significantly. Anata why the struck me, but I wanted to talk to you about. Your agent. Now. You used an agent now here you are. You're playing. Days are over your agent. Probably Gravy, trained help well into six figures over the course of your deals. I Want I. Want to ask you. Do you believe at the end of the day? A what did your agent? Do you know what what did he do? We know negotiated contracts. What else did your agent due to bring value to you? How much do you think he make? Did he return value on it at some players? Don't even use agents looking back at it, you. You're plenty smart enough. You could go. You could have done your own deals. Was it ultimately relationship. He wanted to have so those that I want all that stuff, so for starters was your agent. Major Marvin off Times and Marvin had been in the NFL forever had relationship with built up all across. The League and know had folks from John elway Joe Montana. Myself jumping then I got connected with him to Kirk. Kirk Farance who coached the Ravens with job and I was there. Yeah, so the reality was when I was GonNa come out of college and I I knew GonNa probably be a first round, pick or a high tech He sent me. He's the with mark, and and it was a great relationship I think you know the biggest thing is when you are in control as a twenty two year old and hiring you know I. Am Not GonNa Know Marvin. Say and sixty. Over forty years right? It's really hard to feel like you're in in control because he knows so much more than I, ever would right and I. Think the hardest part was is not understanding. Negotiate my rate right though in the. Three percents fee on every negotiated contract, and then as I, got into my my career I realized, and did renegotiate those terms before I'm into my next in my bigger deal, and and again. I didn't I. Wasn't that wasn't the point where I thought you know Marvin was was not going to be able to help me. 'cause those relationships, and that knowledge was was vast and important, so I had an age. Age All the way through I. Don't regret that regret with regret would be maybe getting advice on on trying to give lots of coming out of college and go you know one percent or two percent but that was something that Richard Sherman actually in the NFL PA Richard Sherman was really with really smart, really with really thoughtful in the fact of let's not say that the the normal see at three percents. Percents let's set this thing at one percent and then make the age negotiate up because put the player in a better situation, yeah, and and and Richard laid it out perfectly, and saying that you know these guys again. Twenty, one twenty, two twenty three year old kid coming out trying to understand, we'll give them the leg up negotiating least and start there, and then if if you're gonNA, do more service you're going to give. Give me more than on. Goshi it out there with do with due diligence, and and and all that, so I thought that was one really important change very much time if he ran and that was brought one hundred percent by Richard and I thought laid out beautifully during the meetings. buffer me. I thought he brought a bunch of value. I really did. I think for me. I didn't need I didn't A. Handler. To be my friend I need somebody to be in my corner when it came negotiation, and he literally served for both purposes, he was in connection with the Franchise Tag, and getting that done it kind of lead me through that route into that that next campaign I'm getting my deal done negotiate for four or five six weeks. absolute lack out and You know I really believe that because I had Mars. I was able to put myself in much better. Financial position in that second contract gets his expertise and I think as an individual going through that you know even if I got franchise. Yes I. I'm smart enough to to certainly get through that. What I've had the same deal at this point. I wouldn't be to take that risk. Yeah that I that now you know I having talked to some people in different front offices, there are some agents who are liked and respected, and those agents make that whole process easier, and it ultimately reflects better on the player, and there are some agents that the teams hate, and they don't WanNa work with and some in some cases. They're just like you know what I don't even wanting to go. She had a new deal with this guy. We're just GONNA. Go because I. Don't want. Even have to deal with the agent and I'll have to deal with the pain and the suffering of what's going to be a protracted difficult process. Question I remember always having a conversation with Rob Brzezinski you know who has all the contracts with the Vikings about his relationship with Marv, and his connection to Marvin, and I think that was really important for that deal to get done. Obviously, you have to be a player, right? You have to be somebody's they want, but then when you bring in agent that there's somebody that they wanna work with and have a conversation with, and they can talk about you know. All the value of the player brings whether it be on the field off the field I think that's. That's an important conversation with those trips to have and to feel comfortable getting into a term, you know expensive contracts, so act felt like that. Martin in my corner was a huge advantage. Yeah, I think there are some guys that carry a lot of cachet. And he was, he was one of them, I even an active agent anymore. I don't know he's he's. He's more just consultants. I mean he's obviously himself kind of through through the process, and he's yeah. He's had a absolute historical run as an agent NFL as thing I would say the group that I've been around. sense as a group as athletes I that group. does a tremendous job Murphy. One of the agent handles tactile. Dhaka's Harrison Smith! Yup I the bar. Those guys you know and I've been around that group. Enough even though they weren't. My have been very supportive in different ways, and they really do things. The right way, so it's been. It's been good to see that group grow and and And I bet he encouraged many young guys to go that route because they are a little bit more of a a full group, so they come from different ways marketing from from all these other opportunities, and and they kind of build that whole portfolio for the player. When you were okay last question on this whole thing with agent, so you're you're coming out of college. You're going to be a high draft. Pick you know it. You ended up choosing Marvin Dan off, but you must have had many agents. Who wanted that work? How many guys came at you? Did people did some break the rules Camacho early. How did you end up picking him? Tell just tell me what that's like. When you're a twenty twenty one year old kid and you've got all these all these guys that want to represent you. Oh, yeah, so it started my junior year after my junior year season Next few months January February after the ball game out getting hit up a tremendous amount from guys wanting me to come on early and want to represent me. At that point, I hadn't really even had thought about coming out early. I was pretty. Pretty stuck on wanting to finish college and get my degree in my back pocket. in hindsight I think I made the right call. Stay finish on my senior year. Finish through and I'm glad I did, but there was guys. Don't ask me right away. And then once I got into my season. They were respectful enough to not bother me during my actual my actual season. Okay but there was there was a couple situations. Situations right where the one one time I'm in my. You know in my ratty college apartment knitting. We're midway through the season. On my senior year I hadn't selected an agent and also I'm Brian. Urlacher calls me really and at that time you Brian Urlacher a linebacker in college wide everything he does and watching every move. He makes he's you know one of the guys I emulate to be. And he called me just cold call. Out of the out of the blue and said Hey, you know here's his. This guy's my agent and I'm I've worked with him. He's great and watching career, which was probably all live by the way, maybe feel good, but the reality was is. Is that one of the tactics that one of the agents use? Their high profile clients to recruit me in. So how? Did it rub you the wrong way, because it's obviously obviously, he's just doing this for his agent. He doesn't know you and probably doesn't care about you. Rub You the wrong way, or were you kind of impressive? Brian Urlacher calling you. Yeah I was I was I was impressed that he called. It was a fun conversation to have for as a college. Yeah, time I could see obviously right through it, and then the biggest thing for me was it came down to a couple of guys and for me the easiest way to do this and to get to the bottom was to have them come talk to my parents, and my parents had them fly out to South Dakota farm in our farmhouse. where I felt most comfortable and they felt the most uncomfortable. And it literally made my decision tremendously easy. 'cause like okay. This is obvious you know. Who who I WANNA. Have my my thoughts. All Marvin flew out from Beverly Hills California Guy Walks into the farm. It was an ice storm and you think he would be tremendously uncomfortable situation just completely out of his element finance who falls driving the our? The farm. He couldn't have been more comfortable. He couldn't have put my parents. You know thought that you know more at ease. You know my my fiancee now. My wife was sitting. There were all these these things about the happen. He made us feel like he had like like. We were like we were okay. And he laid out the whole scenario laid out everything, and and basically it's happened almost the exact way. He laid it out fourteen years ago, so It's been fun to to work with them and and see it through I. Bet a bunch of guys just bailed. As soon as they found out, they had to go to a farm in the middle of South Dakota. I'm not working hard and they. You know the funny part was. Is there a would call my parents so and I don't know why names escape me right now arose out to Rosa now, sorry, so so drew my dad of all people who passed on now. My Dad is the most practical just best guy. My Dad loved through Rosen came because because he thought is like listen. This guy is going to be if anything is going to be honest with you. And you know drew may not be honest with the team I mean. Have you hundred with other people? But he's going to be honest. You and my dad loved that because he works for you. And he was, he had been farming in the family business forever. He cut his teeth seventeen year. Old Kid. You know had to become an adult really quickly to school of hard knocks I think he appreciated drew's approach so he wasn't a final. Find a group of guys that I considered but then when we have, we met the other options. It just seemed to fit my personality a little bit better. I've got a bunch of football topics for. If you WANNA, go another segment totally to you. I'd love to have you back, but you may be. You may be maxed out on your time. What are you looking like? No I'm good I got I got I have one kid crying, but it seems like the twelve year. Olds taking care of it for now I. I can come back. Give me a couple of minute break for upper the great commercial, and then we will come back. That is That is a deal we'll do that. We'll talk to Chad greenway in just a moment. Absolutely now you've got a couple options here. 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How's it going now? All Chad wants to talk about his data. Yeah I, mean. Who Do you think who had the upper hand in that relationship Aaron Rodgers Danika Patrick? or The woman always does the honest ourselves. In that case, that power couple I'M GONNA. Go I'm actually going to go with. With a Araj seems to be the more sensitive of the two, he probably had to control anything so. I don't I second. One hundred percent. Danika Patrick is is an and or was I. Mean I think I think a of the lusters gone now, but she was about as popular eighth female sporting figure caller an athlete. If you want there was maybe what five six seven years ago. Maybe not so much now granted Rogers Hall of fame quarterback. I. Don't know who broke up with WHO I think. She broke up with him I mean. Chat, look at the mustache. Funny, I don't know how. He turned the TMZ here but I would have to say that. That's probably right. Denic cry for the pants and that thing. Arch and I would say that most likely. She broke it off. he probably getting close to season. He knows how good the Vikings defensive. Emotional. You're little, you know. Man. How how? How's he get around? You know Anthony Barr and this. You know the Neil Honda vaunted defense, so I'm thinking probably getting a little, little, uptight, little, emotional, hard to live with covert the whole thing and spend much time together. You know she might be tired of going to green pay. Back. Beyond it. would be I. Mean You know she? She goes into town. Private jet maybe drops in the green. Bay, if assuming they have a somewhere to landy, private jet in Green Bay, which I I'm not positive. They do, but. If they do. Then you're like all right Let's go for big night on the town. Is there an applebees? Know what there is a chilly, no right, but we got it. We have one Chili's. For Watts. Yeah, that's right exactly so there's not A. Careful, though because that's not hard for the athletes that we might mean white, we always tell her kids because our first date with appleby night. Bill and We could only spend about twenty four dollars had done that. 'cause I was always in my bank account and We kept like twenty, one, seventy five and we got out. We were happy. We were fat cats and We had about three bucks up and our names so you know we. We've made that. Our tradition and we actually took the kids to that appleby. We're not in coral. 'cause it all in the magic. All started right there. Yeah, and I of course I got the chicken fried chicken. 'cause that's what you do. I didn't know that. Is that the thing to do an applebees or just? That applebee's the chicken fried chicken. I get August, but That I start with the chicken fried chicken. That's the appetizer. Evolved for nerve, yeah, at some point. The ribs have gotta hit hidden before I. Forget what's happening with great this week. We have a bunch of on actually, so we are We're at the Liquor Barn and long lake today from four to six and when we say we. Are. Giant tenth grader bottle be there and every time we go there. We bring signed cases with so if you WANNA signed Bala Great. I will not be in store. just were not ready to retail in in person stuff yet, not quite getting closer where we're getting closer to hopefully or game for the way one of the one or the other I'm not really sure. What you follow, but The reality is doing that yet, so they'll be signed byles at the Liquor Barn along lake. They've been four to six and it deluxe liquor and Saint Cloud tomorrow from eleven to one. and then cast wide wait park tomorrow from two to four, so the the big ten is making its way around signed bottles will follow plus Grey Duck, and now being served at Music Room starting with the Chris Hockey Cancer Tonight Um and at C. H. S. Field for the story, movie and fireworks. They're doing movies They're doing movies there this, which is why not you got this big field, it can accommodate a bunch of people. Why not movies? Absolutely so yeah, we're we're. We're just spreading our wings. I mean every time you know. We talked to somebody I run into somebody on the street or whatever it is, and everybody wants to talk about great and what we've been able to accomplish, and how far we've gone. and to me, it's been so fun to kind of make this and promote this Minnesota brand using the ideology cradock in all it means, does MINNESOTANS It's fun and I think as we, as we kinda spread our wings now and get more and more people behind us It just gets more fun because now kind of you kind of feel like we're all in this together and we're gonNA. We're. We're GONNA. Raise the product up and it's going to be and I love that I was excited to talk to you about Derrick Henry because I knew you face Derrick Henry and the in that season opener like three years ago and so I go to the box score and Derrick Derrick Henry sign a new deal for years fifty million dollars, twenty, five, million, guaranteed, and so I go to the box score. Derrick Henry had two carries in the game. That's. Accent. Starch. That's what took. So I that was the game, the Neil Hunter returned a fumble for. Gets it was it was kind of a Funky game? I had six that game, too. I think Kendrick yet the house I'd move into the role of playing kind of kind of the first and second down backers, so I was playing anywhere between twenty and fifty snaps a game. Yeah, and and although I think it was his second Kerry it was a broke down play to the right. He ends up coming all the way back across the formation I was dropping coverage, because it was a pass like bootleg to start okay, and and He comes around the corner like a freight train that like a speeding bullet like like an old linemen running. You know four four and I'm like what? At that point you see your career, your life for your eyes, you realize that your career almost overnight hanging on this point and no, and he he he, he is just a be I was sad to see him sort of rest on what he? you know what he thought? He was as young player and kind of go away I mean that's the thing that's funny about him as he. He kind of just disappeared. And then all of sudden this resurgence in this kind of. This idea that he could be one of the best ever people mind to it. And he did and look what they was able to accomplish last year and we'll see they can be able to keep a calm, but the head coach they have their now is GonNa be it's GONNA be run game. Bait you tell the contract they gave him and that offense is going to be a problem, so get this last year. Once Ryan Tannehill took over. The titans averaged seven and a half yards per play. Wow that's the most in the NFL. Over the last twenty years. The titans so tannehill. Tannahill throwing periodically, but mostly running derrick, henry seven and a half yards per play it's. Needed of course when you look at that off the line right and let it they're good. Cohesive at the biggest thing is when you talk about. Line. We've had olen conversations around here for how many nine higher tied fourteen. Fourteen so at least that many years. It's always talk about not necessarily to me. You know there's so many good lineman right, but that cohesiveness of the group can you stay healthy altogether? Can you all on the same page? And sometimes it doesn't mean you have the best players. Sometimes it just means you have the group, and and they certainly have good player office of line, but let's be honest. I mean Derrick. Henry can create some of his own magic and own holes, but he have to have a lot of help and I. do think the way roughly tannehill and keeping it simple. Brilliance in this year to see how Folks Carolina box and try to stop them, and then what they can do on the outside of what pantyhose can really bring to the table and they got this rookie receiver last year's rookie. Aj Brown. Who is awesome and if that's where you get in trouble if you try stacking stop? Derrick Henry now. They've got receiver. That can burn you. They never had that before. You know so you from. He has A. Oh Man. Is he good how I don't remember where he play college anymore and I should. It's not that long ago, but man the second half. Ally knows, or maybe there's a Clemson and Auburn. AL, feel like one of those Schools v the way he he was an absolute beef last year, and I've been watching some of the stuff you see on twitter and everything else and I know he's having a beat off. Miss you at least prepare for it and he's. He looks the part, so yeah, I mean you get a guy like that and and kind of lucky we get today sharp and get him here instead of upkeep down there because that'd be a Nice Combo for them. Aj Brown went to Ole Miss. He had one thousand yards, isn't it? His rookie season? I was it was a great season for him, and he was in the conversation for rookie of the year, and he should have been, and frankly would have taken him over Kyla. Murray who wanted chat? Thanks a lot. It was fun chatting over the course of the last half hour. We'll talk to you next. Friday, you real quick look. We talked about this real quick by miss this. Talked about it at all, so yeah, thank you for asking Guillotine. League if start a whole new company only website just around Guillotine Leagues Because funnest freshest coolest way to play fantasy of ever seen in my entire life, and sometimes Chad you. Just you stumble into something like maybe great concern for you. Will You just stumble into something? That's just like ball. Obviously, this is GONNA go work. I got to do this, so you know. Know I've been I've been playing around with Guillotine leaks for a couple of years, and just the response has been so good that I'm like what I'm putting all my efforts into that I'm building dedicated Guillotine Leagues on going to give people a one stop shop for Cheats Private Leagues Public Leagues. Contests conversation everything you ever want her on Guillotine. Leaks podcast just forgetting leagues all that. Guillotine Leagues Stack you, so can I can I. Sign on for a season, or is it sign on for? You can go week to week. Or how does that work? It season long, so here's the premise of it. you start the season with seventeen teams in a guillotine league, and instead of playing head-to-head every week Chad every week. The low scoring team gets eliminated from the league forever, and and this is the magic. The whole roster goes to the waiver wire where the remaining teams law go bid on an entire draft of players so. Week one. The chiefs unexpectedly a terrible week, and all of a sudden here comes Patrick Mahomes and Tyreek, Hill and Travis Kelsey on the waiver, way or whatever? Just. You could have a whole draft of players that come to the waiver wire every week, and it's just pandemonium, and you end up building these crazy good teams over the course of the season teams get knocked out, and you stay alive, and it's sort of fun. So say I say I signed up in what would happen would be beat out one week one or week to? Let you, know I'm I'm most in Pocono at my house right now, beat out first, but also on the side game kicks off and the other on the other side of the room. There is for for for those who get beat out two things one. We actually sell insurance for a week one knockout. Concerns is you? Guy And then second thing is we've keep forming guillotine leagues every week of the season all the way through the midway point of the season. So if you get knocked out in week one or week two, you can just join a new one, and there's your side table right? There love about thanks Chad. We'll talk next week, you bet. bye-bye when we come back. Dave sick. We'll catch up on what's happening with the packers. We may touch on Danika Patrick just for a minute as well, but mostly off season. That didn't go the way most anybody close to the team expected, and how they're only training camp, NFL turning camps starting in two weeks we'll talk to Dave and catch up on the vikings main rocks. Back to the show. For today. Joining me now. The host of in the zone and packer preview that is Dave Sin Akin. Now Dave, how delicious would it be? If. Danika. Patrick dumped Aaron Rodgers for Jordan love. It would be perfect. He loved that. Out, delicious, it'd be so great. I thought I would get a higher doing before Dana's name was mentioned, but better. No chance no chance. Searches, you know it's really difficult for anybody associated with the packers to find true love with somebody who grew up a bears fan. You know it just screamed. Point work, point just not gonNA work, but you know you're not battled on this for a decade plus now. I just can't convince me that the real meaningful rival is the bears because I'll give from Kenny Clark. You're familiar with Kenny Clarke. Yeah, he's like twenty two years in all. He does a lot about the history of the two franchises in. This is the quote from Kenny against playing the Vikings Packer fans get mad but I love Minnesota the atmosphere. You can just feel how much they hate us. When you get a win there, it feels really good. You can feel the hate in Minnesota. That's that's a rivalry that is why the vikings are the packers main rival, and have been for the last twenty or thirty years because. I understand the historic rivalry, but the bears good enough for the last twenty or thirty years to be meaningful. You know I know the subject means a lot to your church. I really do, and it means a lot fan for some reason that that we hate. You always stands I'm I'm happy to do that, but as a guy who grew up in Milwaukee. Who lives through the seventies and eighties when the bears trampled on the pack more often than that When you grew up in Milwaukee, you are conditioned to hate I'll Chicago teams and the bears are. In Chicago so it's in my blood, and and every Milwaukee and his blood to hate the bears. Most of all as I've said you know. My Dad grew up in Saint. Paul I I visited every summer as a kid I never hated the Vikings. They were the team I rooted for once rebate. Bay was eliminated from contention and November every year, so I can't get there, but certainly twenty five years doing my show here and hearing from some of the worst of Viking fads. Franchise from time to time all right? I I guess that's a fair answer. Now. Viking fans. We spent a lot of time talking about Dalvand Cokes, impending free agency, but the packers leading running back Aaron Jones also heading to free. In fact, so's your number two running back. Williams also heading to free agency. What's the feeling about Aaron? Jones and his future with the club beyond this year? Well when they drafted Aj down in the second round. They definitely saw what was coming. And that is you know you'd love to Aaron? Jones to a second contract Derrick Henry just got paid. A lot of money and Jones will probably be sniffing something around there. Green Bay's in a tough spot now this coming next season with some of their best players up including Kenny, Clark and David Gre Jones Kevin. CAIN Corey Leslie. They can't pay everybody and you know I hate to say any back expandable because Jones special. He's got and he. He showed it last year and so my my hope is that they do signed Aaron Jones. Jones and the let Williams and other free agent walk and J donut center that thunder and lightning sidekick spot. I think I think they really liked what Aj Dylan can bring. They see him as a real big part of their future and the running game. I was I. Went Back. We were all pretty surprised. When AJ Dylan was the was the pick, not only as high as he went, but the team you went to there was nobody really expected I think AJ Dylan end up with the packers, then went back and looked through his look through his his college stuff in. dudes, a freaking pieced. He's gigantic, but he's got some moves and power I was really impressed with AJ Dylan and. Boston, college are known for churning out great runners, but man I was awfully impressive that I saw and I do think that long term. He's. He's going to have a big role on that team. Yeah I did the same thing charts because you know. Obviously with great bay was on the clock in the second round and after the surprising first round pick last position. I expected. That was running back. On, but again you look at the big picture and what you gotTa deal with agency with these guys. You're right. Dylan is is kind of special and he I think lead the country, or was number, one or number two in the country. Saying Eight Man Box Boston College House he didn't need a try to throw the football, so the odds were stacked against him. Throughout the year and very durable and got the ball a lot and they feel like he can play multiple spots. Every single route is receiver. Even though he did do that a lot at you. See and again this year the season. You don't know what you're going to get out of any rookie. Running backs tend to have short learning curve. Given to bomb. Let me go but I think now the road. They expected to have a really really big with this Aj. Dylan is Boston College's all time leader in rushing touchdowns I said he was big. He's six foot two hundred fifty pounds me just running backs just don't do that. It's it's GONNA be fascinating. Including for fantasy, guys and we're GONNA talk fantasy next hour, right? It's going to be fascinating to see if they use them at the stripe because a lot of a lot of the value. That We. We saw with Aaron Jones was because he got so many carries at the stripe last year. What you hadn't gotten to your before, so that'll be fascinating from a fantasy standpoint as well now you mentioned the surprise in the draft and everybody including me is is looking at the wide receivers, and saying you know we all knew that there needed to be a number two receiver that had to be addressed this offseason. OFFSEASON 'cause Davante. Adams is awesome, but after that the drop off without significant, there wasn't a significant help. A tight end the drop off to the Geronimo Allison's Marquez Valdez Scanlon, who never really developed in academia same brown the drop off was amazing, but they didn't address that in any meaningful way Devin. FUNCHESS's is awful. So where does this leave? Where does this leave Aaron Rodgers when he drops back? devante Adams's double covered. Where did you go? Where does the bulk now? We'll go to Adams a lot even when he was double coverage this past season. What people say the same thing about the rest of the cast? He was able to be pretty productive, and when Adams was out of the lineup for four games last year, Rogers had his best Pistons, so he's able to find guy. So, where's he going to go? Well, let's start with Allen Lazard who, if you look at pro football focus they have ranked top four in a very. Very meaningful categories last year. It really is first year stepping into a low. We didn't think it was gonNA. Make the team you know in training camp. And he stepped in and I think his projector is on the rise I. Think it is third season the kid out of Iowa state, who could have gone to any SEC programming wanted to basically I think he's got a lot of upside going to be strong number two. You know you say funchess is awful now he's. The colts paid them pretty big buck last year as a free agent and he got hurt I gave season Let's see how awful he is. With Aaron Rodgers was that big body when it's time to shave when it's time to find a big target and the red zone I think funchess has the number. Three guy is not terrible, and then between the The draft picks from two years ago. You mentioned Delta and Saint Brown if one of those guys can step into that number, four role and Saint Brown this the whole season last year it got hurt on that terrible turf. In Winnipeg, then preseason. Third Year Notre Dame. He had some big time catches in his rookie year. you know what it's not as dire as everyone thinks it's just like last year. The big story was hollow. Lodgers get along with Leffler Never GonNa work now it's who's Roger's GonNa. Throw to tell you what church Rogers pissed off that they drafted a quarterback. He's this show that he's got a lot left. He's single he's. You Watch. A. These guys so for years, the the packers secondary was a glaring weak spot, but got dramatically better with the additions of Adrian. Amos and Kevin King and Alexander looked really good, and then the pressure that they were able to get from. Dairy Smith and to a lesser degree Preston Smith. The past defense was dramatically better last year, but Let's talk about the run. Defense Your Squad finished twenty six in rushing yards per game, allowed twenty-ninth, and rushing touchdowns, allowed and twenty nine in rushing yards per carry so and I look at the draft in free agency and I don't see a lot of real solutions to run defense. That really struggled last year. Yeah, you know it's really good. The first half of the year and then things really went south in the second half. Are some reasons for hope that things will improve. It was my biggest concern. Draft night, everybody was talking receiver and I was talking defensive linemen. That's find someone to put next to Kenny Clarke. Line it's not that you know. Take the kid that the ravens took in the first round. WHO's sitting? There was when Green Bay tech and I thought. That's what they were jumping up to get to really them. ATHLETICISM in the middle of the linebacker core, and that's still a a weakness for the pack and they didn't really address those with any kind of big time, capitals, free agency or the draft. So so, what do they do When it comes to the defensive line They don't have a whole lot next to Kenny Clark. Got Paid last year. They did add trayvon astor and he's you know best known as the guy who blocked Cody parties double don't a couple years ago in the play offs. he's he some some Nice games with the raiders and He has a chance to to step in and maybe start for Green Bay. There's been a lot of buzz on his his ability. It just hasn't been in the right spot, so you know they're hoping Hester can step in, but there's some question marks next to Kenny Clark on the line for sure and inside linebacker you know come from the gophers gets drafted in the fifth round. and. He has a big opportunity there to step in. To to get a lot of playing time, you remember like Martinez has gone right signed Christian Kirksey out of Cleveland, who two years ago was the cast of their defense? He's missed a lot of games the last two years. He's only twenty seven, but He's gone as they real cerebral guy that when he's healthy, maybe isn't out of downgrade. Maybe the slight upgrade from our. Our Gina's so Kersee can step into that role and stay healthy. Maybe Martin Steps in Canada Oklahoma. Curtis Bolton look like the starter last year. He also got hurt and Winnipeg tore his acl. He is back and they don't in Berks. It was a third round. Pick a couple of years ago. They're hoping the lightbulb switches on, but there's there's a lot of question marks on. On there when it comes to run defense, I don't dispute that at all. you know my hope? Is that a couple of guys pop, and at least we have solve the secondary I think it's the strike the Green Bay's defense for share. Three corners are salad. Say Caesar Salad and Church, that you'll get raving greenback. who also just about the whole year he was. was slated to die linebacker they have nobody like him, so he alone I think we'll help third downs. When the niners just try to surprise Green Bay right on the ball on third and long if Raven Greens back there, he gives Green Bay out, and that's for sure. We got one minute left Dave. Do believe it's two team race for the NFC north. Yeah, packers lines are GONNA. Fight it out this year. I think it's a two team race Truthfully I think there's a big difference top to bottom I think all four teams have a chance to win eight to eleven games, but do I. Think the lions are having upside of ten ten wins. I think they probably closer to eight wins but I think they're going to be much improved. They were in. Every game they lost last Senate beaten my team twice or at least could have at Stafford's healthy yeah, I think the lions have a chance to win eight or nine games and I think that's about the bikes are. Maybe nine or ten I. The bears are eight or nine. I think Green Bay's. You know between nine and eleven so I think it's a competitive division. But it has to be green based division to lose thanks Dave will listen to you Saturday morning zone. Appreciate a charter shadow great letter. He's Kinda right about the lions. If Israel about things, click I mean. You've got Matthew Stafford who can be handing off to Andrea Swift who is awesome rookie of the year candidate throwing to Kenny Golladay Marvin Jones It's an office of line that is very good with frank rag now and tailored decker first round equity there. It's if things come together. TJ Hopkinson the tight end. They drafted last year if he can come back and be meaningful at kind of you, know I want to be goods nine and that was one thing that they've. They were supposed to get right. Right, they did. Yeah, so. Maybe it'll help. We'll see. When we come back. An hour fantasy football. Hey, look. I, haven't really I haven't talked fantasy football seven months. It's time I'm very excited to get to fantasy football topics. My Co host Brian Johnson will join us as well. We'll coach from fantasy football weekly may take some phone calls for those people that are as attention. Turning his training camps are now just two weeks away got a bunch of things. Talk about in the world of fantasy football, including a possible resurgence to top five status. For Tom Brady. The second best quarterback on the fan. She's you. Know Zoom! Welcome back to Joe, while charity wishes at ps back in Tuesday Nardo, being on Monday Solo, he is helping me out today as well. final. Segment is something of an early edition of fantasy football weekly. Let me remind people fantasy football weekly for the first time radio shows on twenty six years for the first time. We continue to have weekly podcasts. Used to going away for seven months eight months, but we're back every week. With new fascinating fantasy, football weeklies and last week's episode all about the things. Your League needs to do to prepare for Covid, because if you if you wait and. Wait and see and try to handle it in season. Based on whatever happens in season league is going to unravel. Friendships are going to end because. Everybody's GonNa just want to do what's best for themselves. When covid issues hit in the middle of season, you gotta get all. That stuff straightened out in the preseason. If the Cova clause that is, he had to get all your Cova clauses, and there are many, and you haven't thought of them. All everybody's like well. Okay. We'll just use I are now I'm telling you. This thing has got a lot. Lot of tentacles to it and the last fantasy football weekly episode talks about all the things you're. League needs to get straightened away in the preseason before the season starts I, love I'm so excited that we get to talk about fantasy football right now camps and like ten or eleven days. Yeah, we need side. I'm ready for football. Baby, he the. It's been a long weird off season, hasn't it? And I think it's going to happen. I mean. Everytime bring up almost anything on twitter related football. Somebody's gotTa, come back with. Was Not going to be used season while even to even posting it. The NFL's to do everything they can to make sure there is a season. How dare you? have any optimism in your heart or in your head about our ability to find a solution and make something work out there. You know what a terrible way to look at life. In general way, isn't it yes? Here's the thing. The owners want the season to happen. The players want the season to happen. The fans want the season to happen. Every you know all the momentum is to make it happen, so let's figure out how to do bright. Let's let's let's figure it out, and that's what they're doing. Will some players get covert? Of course, they will yes, nobody's GonNa die not at their age. These guys are. All Alba commune. and. We will be okay. We'll get through the season. You know some big name players Zeke Elliott's already had some big name. Players going to get it, but will be okay. The game will go on will. Manage I mean I think. There's I in my mind. The worst case scenario is it goes somehow widespread multiple teams have got it, and they've got a shutdown teams or even shut down the League for three weeks. Well, you know what we're taking three weeks off as a league everybody to stay at home quarantine, we'll come back in through weeks and resume playing. That's your worst case scenario I. think that the NFL. We'll do everything it can to avoid any sort of pause like you're talking about I just find it interesting that the public purview of it has really shifted from deaths, which is the obvious worse case scenario related to anything health wise, and and this pandemic in particular, but the focus on the number of deaths has really shifted now to just a number of cases correct now is just you know despite the fact that this is a virus without a vaccine and we knew that as we open things up. Up that the cases and with more testing that the numbers would exponentially increase, it feels like the shift has gone from what is actually important people losing their lives, which is terrible and heartbreaking to now just anybody that tests positive so you. The NFL will have to balance that. It's been something we've talked about many times. The what is the public's Palette? And how tolerant or are they of how these leagues handle the inevitability of positive cases, but fantasy football is back and that's really for us on a Friday. That's not all bad. That's not bad. That's not bad. We'll work in some phone calls later in this hour. Fantasy football weekly again. The podcast available on I tunes IHEART radio wherever you prefer to get your favorite podcast, you can get fantasy football weekly myself Brian Johnson Matt Harrison every now and again we work in some scotfish into the bid as well so that's our that is still going and now. We're only. Three weeks away from the first regular. You know the first preseason on air edition, a fantasy football weekly and I know a lot of you want to green to keep going three hundred sixty five days full year of degreen, but we start the first Saturday in August. We always do fantasy football weekly. We'll be back for Saturday. 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Whatever it is and I do got your Guy Brian here, too. We've got we'll. We'll get Brian Johnson into the conversation for these final two segments as well so many version of fantasy football weekly the full show starting the first Saturday in. August. I think that's three weeks from now. That's the over the air version will resume year number twenty seven, and then we'll have a little mini version here for the next couple of segments. Paul Tortilla. At any. Welcome back! It's a mini version of fantasy football weekly. Charging with you Brian. Johnson joining me momentarily. We started the show talking about the situation. In Washington with the New, York sorry the Washington Post Article Outlining fifteen women. Alleging sexual harassment during their time, working for the club Daniel Snyder has issued a statement. In which he took no accountability issue, no apologies and simply talked about it's. It's very short, simply talked about the firm Hiring A. A lawyer your to do? An investigation I I wish there were a little more teeth to this, but unfortunately there is there really isn't much to go with. They're probably much to be expected. Given the. The lawyer inclusion and whatever I'm sure he couldn't apologize in a way that if you you know unfortunately today's litigious society. About a lame yeah, you know you can say you know even could have said something like you know. We take these allegations seriously, we you know I think he could have done a lot more to. Sound like human being out of this then Daniel Snyder ended up doing which would be the first time during his tenure as owner of the of the franchise so I'll that to be expecting too much. I mentioned we'll take calls one, eight, hundred, three, two, zero, five, three to six. If you'd like to chime into something fantasy football related. WHO SHOULD I start? No, we're not to make. WHO SHOULD I start? It's it's funny. You say that, though because it doesn't happen, it doesn't take long. Unfortunately, let me bring in my fantasy football weekly Co host Brian. Johnson Hi Brian. What's up charge? How's it? Go Good Nice to talk to you is. There a scenario hero Tom Brady ends up as a top five fantasy quarterback. So. We know Brady has to relieve wide receivers, right, Chris Godwin and Mike. He lied you go back in the past. having to League wide receivers has faired very well out quarterback history of Isaac Bruce Old. Kurt Warner Randy Moss and Chris Carter with Dante colpepper. Marvin, Harrison Reggie Wayne peyton manning Jordy Nelson Randall Cobb with Aaron. Rodgers goes on and on and Tom Brady is right in that tier of quarterbacks might be the best of them all right. Yeah, let's talk about some bad quarterbacks of two elite, wide receivers and I. I'm going to go to the twenty thirteen bears Brandon Marshall and Alshon Jeffery. Their quarterbacks were Jay Cutler and Josh mccown wow. Cutler started about twice as many games as mccown but. Become, got some decent six or seven starts. They combined for four, thousand, four, hundred, thirty, eight, passing yards and thirty two passing touchdowns. One person in one in that season that was one person they would have ranked six in passing yards, passing yards and tied for fourth in passing touchdowns, and that some kind of Jay Cutler. Josh mccown, Frankenstein Monster Yeah. I got one more deep cut, even deeper, two, thousand, five, the cardinals duels, Larry, Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin. Hm. Yes! They had Kurt Warner then, but he was a hot mess coming off his stick with the giants essentially forced out by. Ally Manning was not ready to start yet. That's right hurt watering his first year. Only plenty of ten games on you and there other quarterback that season on take guess it was. mccown Josh mccown. And something called John Navarre. Even thought some games. Those three combined for four thousand, seven hundred nineteen passing yards, Tom Brady led the league that year with four thousand, one hundred ten yards, but they would have been the combined league leader by eight hundred yards, nearly the only combined for twenty one passing touchdown, but only one quarterback tops thirty, passing touchdown, two thousand five, and that was Carson Palmer with thirty two, and if you remember, he had to wide receiver with the time with Chad, Johnson and t j commission was Outta so. Ten Tom Brady Ken Tom Brady be a top five quarterback. Absolutely now will. He is the question we got. Mahomes L. Jackson and deck, barring holdout locked in at the top three. Would you agree they're charging? Yeah, those are my. Three quarterbacks right now. So now we got two spots to still, and we're looking at guys like the Shawn Watson Russell Wilson. Cuyler Murray and I'm even gonNA. Throw Josh Allen in that mix. And basically these eight guys, even including mahomes. The rushing upside is just too high for me that I think. Two of these guys is GonNa. Fill the foreign five spot leading brady just on the outside but Brady certainly those who? Could be a top five quarterback. Yeah, it's the rushing that where Brady sorta falls apart in today's game for fantasy. Just these rushing quarterbacks can score points in ways that you guys that don't rush Tom Brady really really hard to equal that with just your arm so I. Think I think you're right that that kind of keeps Tom Brady out of that top tier, but the sites tremendous, and by the way you didn't even mention Rob Gronkowski. Saving that for you charge though saving your guy. You appreciate that area on top. And OJ Howard can finally come to fruition. Brady's looking at a pretty big year downtown. POMPA sorry. and. Let's Tom Brady by the way going off the board right now as quarterback fourteen. And we're talking about him. Can he work his way into quarterback? Five territory I think he can do that pretty easily. So Tom Brady is I think one of the one of the steel quarterbacks that you could go get and. Couldn't just couldn't dropped into a better situation while we're talking about Brady and quarterbacks. Let's switch over to Cam. Newton, the guy who replaces Tom Brady note yet easy to do no problem there. I contend that Cam. Newton has as much very intense to him upside. Downside has any quarterback you could draft. What do you think about cam? Newton's prospects in New England? Yeah let's take a brief history lesson with Cam Newton's. Fantasy finishes since he was a rookie in twenty eleven starting in twenty eleven here was quarterback finishes qb, four QB four qb five. We've got a stable top quarterback on our hands, right? Twenty fourteen. That's right. Baby Roller Coaster ride starts twenty four team qb seventeen and twenty fifteen qb one by a mile MVP and they went to the super bowl loss of course, but everyone's like camps back twenty fourteen without liar, but now we were all wrong twenty sixteen back to Cuba fifteen. Then twenty seventeen qb to. Twenty eight hundred fourteen. I mean it's it's floor ceiling floor ceiling. Last year only played. Two Games didn't get a chance to bounce back. Obviously, yeah, so but I'm I'm just GonNa go with the trend here, and of course he's in New England with the best head coach. He's added a tire lifetime and I think I think. The Sky's the limit for Cam and I probably should have lump them even with those guys could finish in the top five with the mobile rushers. We mentioned before you could work himself right back into that next. Yeah, do you now the the whole thing and Cam Newton always been this way? Is the rushing yards. If you just if you just at what his arm provides you. It's completely pedestrian. He is over the past three full seasons. He's Andy Dalton as a passer. Cam Newton is, but when he's allowed to run in can run. That's when he becomes statistically explosive. The question that you really asking yourself I believe is. Do you trust, Bill Belichick. To allow cam to run the ball, or is it going to be more like what we saw in the more recent years with with the panthers, where they were so nervous about him getting hurt, and he was so banged up all the time that they didn't let him run. He didn't have any value. Totally agree and two very important factors as well massive chip on his shoulder through, but he's ever had before and nothing. He's strapped for cash. At least I would know this, but he's essentially. He needs stats to get paid. Always insensitive, so he's GonNa. Be Chasing stats like he's trying to win. A Fancy Football Championship is here so can go and way too late. We're GONNA see him creeping. preseason I doubt they would, but we just need to see a little old cam, and that ADP is GonNa Skyrocket no time you know what the other guys that I think are really good values. Ours receivers because everybody had downgraded Juliana delman a lot and to kill Harry. Because we thought the Jarret Stidham era was GonNa Start and he could kill that offense, but now we've got at a minimum experience, competent, quarterbacking and Cam Newton and we're still seeing. His receivers scoffed board late late late drafts and I think there's a lot of value in those receivers to. Oh no doubt it and you don't you and that actually mock me for my NCO Harry prediction that he outscores every rookie wide receiver this year, but I made that before they signed Cam. Well. That I knew it was coming and I look even smarter, but that's still happening. I stand by leary outscores every rookie wide receiver this year especially now. The Cam Newton's and tell them. I don't think so. It's. It's a crazy deep year at basically every position. When we come back Brian, I want to focus for a minute on tight ends, because the for the past three or four years. I've been advocating. Go Get your tight end early, but to position is now so deep I think you can slough that spot and I want to get some of the guys you can get in rounds nine, ten, twelve, fourteen at the tight end position that can help your fantasy team Paul charity, Brian Johnson with. Restores you in. With. Welcome back final statement. Brian Maleski is in four Dan Cole today, so get to hear from Brandon after this. looking at his recent tweet I believe he will be talking to John Bonus at noon to one we'll see. We'll see a little be. We'll be in the mix today. and Justin Gardening Studio for the final Straw. How about that? Not that? So of the lineup and the name game coming back so that's next segment to now on the top of the hour. It's more of a early version of fantasy football weekly again. The show comes back for Saturday in August. I should know the date but I. Don't know the first Saturday in August date, but I think it's the fifth or sixth or something like that. I I. I appreciate that it would be the second. The second of August August. Second is the first Saturday August no August. I talk is I yes. Oh, Jeez all right here. Ready to so we are three weeks away two weeks from tomorrow. It's two weeks away. Ot's. Kept first fantasy football. We cleaned two weeks. What are you, GonNa? Do Wow. Again we've been doing fantasy football weekly's all off season, but now you get full two hour version. We, do, encourage you to continue to listen to the podcast as well fantasy football weekly joining me now. My Co hosts from fantasy football weekly Brian Johnson back for a second segment. Hi, Brian? Charge, let's get back to some of our critical fantasy related topics including this. Overall. This is the deepest draft I've ever seen. In twenty seven years of doing this professionally done against more than. Twenty seven years of the show. It's so you connects you almost any draft plan. You want this year. Which is great? But. One of the angles could be I want to slough the tight end position. A lot of us we've been advocating for. Taking tight ends early because you kind of needed to. Because There were so few good ones, but not not necessarily this year. I think it's a very very deep era tight end, so if you decide, you're not going to go. Travis Kelsey in the end of the first round or George hit on the second round or Mark Andrews. Zach Ertz and third round. Let that position go. Who are some the titans? You can target round eight round ten round twelve around fourteen, these later around tight ends. That can still help your team. Now before it get to the ultimate Slough, and you know where I'm going with batch arch. No Offense I. I I'm Denver of course second year at Iowa He's going around the ninth tenth round right now. Right around tight end twelve fan. Did Not. Get any significant run last year until the last quarter of the season when. He Was under center, and Fan really started to get some significant playing time and at the end of the season he led all tight ends with eight point three yards after the catch per reception was second among titans and yards per reception. And he was top seven intoning tight end end zone targets, which is the most wearing? The full season. He was a target Haagen the end zone so. And passes the test for me. I'm sure he does for you as well. He looked fantastic. He looks way better to Tj Hopkinson did. Talking with healthy so I think fans has that. Yes he could Kinda. Zach Ertz Guy. He has that look to me. I'm targeting fans in mid rounds, but. I would be remiss if I did not mention my guy. Dan Arnold and I deserve the floor. Do this charge. Because last year I was forced eating. Dan Waller Down People's throats. It's through when nobody was talking Darren Waller you were talking Darren Waller time last year, and my spidey sense is doing just the same for Dan Arnold same type of freak athlete, same type of wide receiver coming out of college has been converted to tighten, and yes, he hasn't had a lot of opportunity because he was a raw project, but let me break this down. Only twenty career receptions, not a lot, but when he when he gets the ball, throat is way he is uber affected, averaging fourteen yards catch on those twenty receptions. Big Of those twenty catches have gone for first downs. That's not easy to do that's that's an insane ratio fifty nine twenty. That was with mostly the things, and then some of the cardinals. He did not see real game action into a last four games twenty nine P. last year. We saw thirteen targets, not a lot I know but not thirteen targets into eight catches for one hundred twenty seven yards and two touchdowns that is absolutely insane, and he only had one start in week seventeen, we at six targets. He caught four balls for seventy six yards in the cuts down Charles. Clay was around last year. He's gone. They won't Arnold to be the guy, so I am taking Dan. Arnold in every effing draft. Lots! Dan Arnold. You can have you should now i. don't know I can break down for you any better if you didn't believe Darren Waller last year. Here's your chance to redeem yourself with Dan Arnold this year. All Right? Yes, I, you're still you're still pretty. That's okay Lasts picking my draft. I could do Dan Arnold. In fact, he's still available in my Scott Fishbowl. The draft, which is still going a week and a half later so I, doubt might be might be my final selection in that draft boy I down so fifteen twenty. Don't forget that reaching okay deal. Let's talk about rookie running backs. It was a crazy, crazy deep draft for these rookie running backs I'm going to get your thoughts on and. Relatively quick hit hit. Here and some of the big names, the first rookie running back to go with Clyde Edwards, Allaire, whose hits Kansas City perfect landing spot for him. Let's start with him. What are your feelings on Clyde Edwards currently going off the board in round three? Can I give you a high level overview rookie running back. Sure Yeah. In Two Thousand and eleven th. There was an NFL lockout. So there's essentially no football for mid March July very comparable to these times on a global scale of course a football scale. Season only one rookie running back finished top twenty four NPR formats, and it wasn't demarco. Murray and it wasn't Mark Ingram the big rookie running backs that year. He was our good Buddy Roy Helu. Rolling rookie running back. In the top twenty four cheese. Tomato, Murray Mark Ingram those future prospects, and they couldn't crack the cop twenty four. The, the lack of mini camps the abbreviated training. And the reason I am I am downgrading all rookie. Runner is just a grand scale, so I just WANNA put out right now, also twenty one of the biggest statistical passing years ever four quarterbacks went over forty nine hundred yards, and four have thirty nine plots passing touchdown. That is absolutely insane, so is that going to happen again this year I? Don't know if you might want to bump up your quarterbacks. I think part of the reason. There's some hesitancy on these rookie. Running backs is. Pass by while runnings, instinctive right I mean you know these are runners? You can handle off and I. Don't think they need a lot of training camp for that. They don't even obscene for that, but the pass blocking the nuances and the route running. Those are the things that keep that that keep a rookie running back off the field in third down, and some other situations, in which they might be later, and so if you're twenty eleven, c. COMPARISONS GONNA. Hold I. think that might be part of what? All right, so what are your thoughts? And Clyde Edwards Alaron particular, as he now goes to the chiefs, and has the opportunity to be potentially the starting running back on the best offense in the NFL. Does have that opportunity, but I don't I don't see how he gets it with Damien Williams, still there Damian Williams is a very running back. Damien Williams look great in the playoffs. Yes, in route to winning the super, bowl so. Bringing a rookie. To to be the VELCRO I. Don't I just don't see that happening so? Their long term prospects for some redraft perspective. I think you're looking at sixty percent of the touches of the best case scenario unless Williams goes down in my mind, people are overreaching a little bit for him. He's a part of this dynamic offense. I don't know I'm a little down on a layer just because I need to see him clearly, you Sir Williams I. Don't know if he can do that in this year. You know I think that's all very fair and the funny thing is. Nobody wants Damian Williams anymore. Even after we all saw in the postseason Damian, Williams is great. He's going off the board and the eighth and ninth rounds of drafts. Clyde Edwards alarms going off in the third. Yeah it's. Through all these. Jonathan Taylor d Andrea Swift JK Dobbins. They're all we prospects, but there are incumbents. They're better would be drafted late. RV Wounds Arbutus if these rookies weren't drafted, and of course, we're talking about Mark Ingram. Marlin MAC and even carry on Johnson, so yeah. I think it's GonNa. Be Hard for these guys to to coming into this year with this busted summer and carve out a role over have been. Playoff teams to and these are proven running back. Yeah Mac has gotten dinged up and carry on gotten dinged up. I think keyshawn. Von Really has the best chance to come in and classic had a tower because Ronald Jones is isn't all that he's not proven and von when over a thousand yards last year on listen two hundred carries, which is uber impressive because Vanderbilt finis-. Finish with the run blocking great as A. Career pro football focus. Wow, keyshawn! Von was still able. To put up those numbers, and he's been praised as a top re four pass catching back in this class In impasse pro, so he sean Don I know there's a lot of hype around him, but I think it's starting to be justified, and I would probably prefer 'em. What were the other rookie runners in this year? Because I think he carves out a bigger role in the other guys do yeah Keystone von for. This is the buccaneer those drafted in the third round and we all feel like he's going to walk in and be a starter sooner than later. I believe 'cause Ronald. Jones is not good and. That means he could be this year. Sony Michelle Sony Michelle's awful, and he was a meaningful fantasy producer last year just because he was on Tom Brady offense. That's going to be the case here I think defenses are going to be the face. The bucks are going to be so worried about Tom Brady. That the defending the running game is going to be an afterthought that that's going to open up some real opportunities for Keyshawn, Vaughan almost certainly in my mind. Let's while we're talking rookie running backs de Andrea. Swift is in Detroit. I, don't know that I to me. Kerryon Johnson is not much of a threat. And while I was optimistic that carry on, was gonNA. Have a good career. It just never materialized, and you know between the injuries and just frankly math, play and Andrea Swift looks of mazing. They took him in the second round. His his his college performances were jaw-dropping I. Think he watson is the starter. I can't argue that too much and he he probably has the. Chance outside of Jon Bon who by the way bruce, Arians and Tampa Bay loves having him the Bell, running back and not much for the platoon light so As well with you. Swift using a great stop the Guy I think. Perhaps the thorniest to figure out among the rookie, running backs is jk Dobbins who's also ankle breaking talent, but he drops into a Baltimore backfield. That's got. That's four runners deep, and they've proven that they never use a true. BELCO, they. John harbaugh loves to scatter the the runs across a variety guys and his quarterback so get him. It's a real problem for trying to decode JK Dobbins. Fantasy value one that I think is going to ultimately lead to a lot of really inconsistent box scores for JK Dobbins. Yeah I agree with you. Yeah, it's that's that's GonNa. Be a frustrating one. Another one that I think will frustrate people, and but maybe as a different outcome. The Rams spent a second round pick on cam acres running back, and of course they let todd Gurley go tiger lease now with Atlanta. Who Ends up being the starting? Running back for the RAMS IS A. Subject because it's not obvious. At this time last year we thought Darryl Henderson was going to be a meaningful participant in that offense, and he never turned out to be with Todd Gurley gone. You've got Malcolm Brown who returns pretty ordinary runner, but a safe runner Daryl, Henderson never who flashed in the preseason last year, never came around, and then they spent that second round pick on cam acres. That's a that's a fascinating one to watch and I if you can guess right, and which one of those guys will end up getting the most work? There's a great opportunity to get the lead running back on a really good team. Yeah, you just need that crystal. Ball though. Absolutely. That's what about your guys back off though charge was. Yeah, and so Zach boss and I'll ask for your favorite sleeper right now Zac Moss, my favorite sleeper across the board and fantasy football. Here's why. And for people that don't remember Zach Moss's running back for Buffalo got drafted in the third round to replace. Frank Gore frank or last year. had. Eighteen carries inside the five yard line. If and we know that. In Buffalo Devon single, Terry's not a goal like I had three carries inside the five last year. Zach Moss is going to get those eighteen carries inside the five, and if you're like me and you think the buffalo offense is a sending. Maybe even more than eighteen this year. You think they're going to be better this year than they were last year Josh Allen is going to be better Stefan Digs of course I love Zach Moss as my favorite sleeper right now, Zach boss. Going off the board in the Twelfth Round He is player one hundred twenty five off the board. You could be sitting on ten touchdowns. Brian wait a minute hold on a second though he had eighteen Frank Gore at eighteen carries inside the five, and you only had two rushing touchdown. It's hard to do, isn't it? Yeah, he's like fifty okay Kerryon on I'm sorry actually I knew I. You told me not to participate fantasy football kind. Are you playing this year, said shut up north. I'm in a league with you, but thanks for which league you in. The casual empire thing. Oh, I didn't know you're in that outright. Okay, okay. Nice, it's very, it's. Yeah. Brian. Who is your favorite sleeper for this year? I'm GonNa go to outside of Dan Arnold of course. Gardner, you quarterback of the Jaguars Right now going off the board or up quarterback twenty six, basically three last year mince you put up the most passing touchdowns by rookie quarterback since the merger in nineteen seventy and he only started. Thirteen Games even twelve got in for thirteen game and and the underlying stats support his performance as well for per football focus the highest rated quarterbacks on throws of twenty plus yards downfield and twenty nineteen. We're one Russell Wilson. To the Shawn Watson and then garments, you ranked third with a ninety four point seven rating on D. throws. Yeah, and don't forget. You can run you stick in rushing yards among quarterbacks in those fourteen games, averaging twenty four and a half yards per game. That's half the touchdown half a passing touchdown. You can tack on your weekly. Total and Jay. GRUDEN is new offense coordinate, offensive coordinator. Very pass happy. Here's some finishes from quarterbacks that were coached by Gruden either as head coach, though see Kirk cousins in two thousand, fifteen to twenty seventeen minutes, quarterback, eight quarterback, five quarterback six, and then Andy Dalton from twenty eleven to twenty thirteen, with Gruden as as associate quarterback, fifteen at twelve and quarterback five, and the main thing here is the Jaguars are going to be losing by. The for every day construe they're going to abandon the Ron I mean they'll be doing Chris. Thompson talking to you Leonard Fournette by the way people don't think he's catching that many balls or as many as you did last year, but the Jaguars are going to be chasing points I'm calling. It guarded time, not garbage, time, guard, Niche, time and You know that's the football. His friend is garbage time and the Jaguars are going to be living in it. And they got got able. Pass catchers and Ej Charq with distribution autism, nice, shiny new toy. Though so governments you topped potential, and he's humanely going undrafted. Especially One quarterback leads. You've convinced me and the fact that the Jaguars let nick foles go and didn't throw a draft. Pick or any. You know any meaningful equity. At, the position of quarterback tells me they. They know what they've got and Gardner Menchu and they like it. Brian Fantasy football weekly the radio. Starts in fifteen days. You're Y fifteen days. We're back in studio fantasy football weekly. We'll be back and live. You can listen to the podcast version right now. Though fantasy football weekly here, Brian. Myself Matt Harrison regularly there, thank you. Brian appreciate it. Anytime she charged Nardo. Great job today. Thanks for doing this young rock CENEX Friday momentum coming up next brand Maleski stay tuned by by everybody. Nine two. Zero. podcast today's Paul Allen Y'all. To previous show interviews like go into the iheartradio, APP or KFI DOT COM.

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And the fans of the show and they wanted to give you that. Because they know how fascinated you are with the moon, and these are some fascinating show within the moon changes in the sky every single day. Yes. It's a different place every single day today when I went out there at five fifteen in the morning, the moon was as I looked at the moon in what I would say the deep south west corner of the sky, although that's not exactly true. But it's because actually was more and more than west southeast because I was looking towards the east where the sun comes up. What was the what was the temp that's? Going to get to when I left my house today, the temperature that I walked out in was seven degrees. I put on extra layers put on an Under Armour shirt and under armor leggings like Long John nex thing put under not nylon handles. Yeah. But not the silk ones. I mean, these ones that you might that was five thirty AM five twenty AM out the door. And definitely at that time folks full. Scuba suit but note, no, not well, not not scuba gear. I didn't have a breathing. Apparatus you go face mask. No crampons. Just forgot stupidly. I forgot I had them on yesterday stupidly. Forgot. Cold fries very much slower ice camp free. So here's here's what I wanted to say when I went out with the dog and the dog is very furry big dog that dog is. There was no wind virtually no win. So I looked at the phone when I got back in instead of feels like minus one, but it felt like seven I mean because it was seven that's what it was was seven, right? I'm not recommending everybody go out in this and come back with the same experience. I had but it wasn't was I was really layered. And it wasn't terrible now, Chicago and damore. Teramo? Terrible beyond words. Terrible beyond words. Tough wilbon. Mr. Chicago, you know, where us today's in Los Angeles. Saying go to Phoenix where I don't think it's going to get to seven not in Phoenix four Santa's role. I was now I left I was first outside of my house later, how Roker on a coast guard cutter hunting through the ice on the way to all buzney from New York City, wearing a Canada goose jacket. He'd better watch. Nobody's gonna shoot someone in the coast guard's going to take an hour later than you with the sun the sun not heating yet. The sun certainly the glow of the sun showing on the horizon about eighteen miles to the north northwest of your residents. I had six degrees. Now, this was granted. Now or later, I will say this about you mentioned the moon today. And I'm sure you're the same deal five thirty bright Coors, just writers. And then to what was left. That's what I want. Ask your stores at Vina. Now would not be the north star in the north star wouldn't be in that shirt was your autumn. Can I don't have to Google that? Phenomenal. The one sort of Sal over land left. Can I well I'm going ask a dumb question when it is cold in clear is brighter. Yes, I think. So I mean because it seems as though that this will tell you this that I remember for close to fifty years now. When I when I was in college, I drove across the country from east to west turned west east, but I drove east to west and got to Wyoming and notice this we because that is the Wyoming area, Wyoming, Idaho, Colorado out there, see equality state. That's that's what the Big Sky country. I was amazed. I looked up into the sky, and you are humble when you come from the east. You don't see it quite like that? You're humble you realize. Oh my God. I'm nothing an aunt. I'm nothing here. I mean, there's a million stars. And because there's no particular industry smokestacks or anything like that on clear nights. It's really clear clear night. You can see forever scary. It's scary house. How big Big Sky is. Update on the on the planet type situation in this looking to the southeast guy one hour before sunrise, which is right about what we're talking about here. Well, I was earlier than that ninety minutes. Whatever. So based on today today's the thirty first of January, so lower left was Venus up said and you last. Neil Scott tightly Hata upper right was Jupiter. Oh, okay. Now tomorrow that closure gives you a picture tomorrow. The sun the sun, the moon looks like it will be much lower in the sky when you walk chessy right to the lower left of that by about three or four times a distance Venus will be Saturn. If you can see it real. It'll be down near the horizon. Able to see all the planets are on display Venus, bitter, Saturn are all available. As well Venus. Yes. Nobody can see your ain't right. You look really really close. I learned something about the moon. Yes. Today made of cheese. Thanks to know petro. That's right. That's right. So if you would you like to mass whole. Tony Kornheiser show. Like like the space dog. Would you like to be sent into space? Brought back not like like who would like to send into space is at the same right now. I would say no because it would terrify me. If NASA said, look, we'd really like to send you up there. How do you say no to that easily? No. There's zero percents do that. These pools look like frozen water on the moon. And I was like, oh, that's that's just ice. Right. And said, no that's lava. That's that's from volcanoes in the moon. I had no idea that there was volcanic was. I was told I don't believe there is millions and millions of years. I was told yesterday about Shaquille O'Neal that shit to kill apparently went on the air. And he said, I don't really understand this. When I stand up at night, and I look outside my house, I can see the moon so far away. But I can't see California from my house. Let's because earth this said, but I can drive to Californian and layers layers apparently said, well, why don't you try to drive to the moon? And see how that works out. That's funny. That's funny. So yesterday, I got to the PTI show. And I told the people about Kris omen, right? We'll Chan how staan Shing his particular talent was to me. And of course, I don't know how to do this because I don't subscribe to the YouTube, but tell her went right to YouTube and started playing Chris almond videos of him whistling at the reaction from the kids who work at TI at. I it's exactly what you expect. They sort of laugh at first because I think what is this. This is so dork notionally when he seconds in there going credit, right? It's yeah. So did you guys like that? I did Christie. This wasn't invited. I didn't wanna keep asking them to perform for. I didn't think willing really don't wanna do that. Mass my kid the lineup of the nineteen seventy two pirates. Great. If we got into sing whistle integrated davita on think he was looking he was on it. Channel than anyone else. Try whistling all afternoon after that show. I didn't have whistle envy. I so I guess we should get out of here. Now. Bring Chuck Todd on when we return. I don't really have. I mean, I don't really have a beginning. I was going to blast. Roger goodell. It's just too easy. It's I'll just say this. I mean, my position on Goodell is very simple, if that's all you're going to say ten days after the worst call that anybody has ever seen. If all you're basically going to say as know, we know it was bad. We're looking into ways to stop it. But it's a game. That's played on the field. And we don't really want interfere too much. If that's all you're going to say, which is by the way, fine. Why didn't you say it Sunday Nirex? What I mean, if that's what you're going to say the notion that you said, well, we called up the coach right away. So what what are you spent? I watched that entire press conference. So it's like an hour long. I can't tell you how many times he talked about. And I'm quoting now. Our great fans our great fans, if they're so great, don't you old them that much would think don't, you know, them just to say, hey, we got it wrong. We're not going to change it. Now, we're gonna look in the future to try to not get run. But hey, we got if that's all you're going to say. And by the way, I'm not saying that's not enough. I'm not just saying then it's so arrogant to wait this long. It's so amazingly arrogant, and it speaks to that. And it doesn't speak like some people say that he works for the owners and all commissioners work for owners. No, that's not an all other commissioners would have stood up and said this is what happened, and he didn't and dozen you know, he doesn't so one thing. I wanted to hear was some. I mean, I guess there are no assurances, but some soldiers talked to the sing like, what's. Say something to us to let us feel like, okay? We don't have to worry about that something like that happening this week. Don't let something like that decide disc- and the people that go on television and radio and print, and they just say, well, what do you expect them to do? And they apologized for him. And they say it's unreasonable job for guys to say, you don't give you don't have to give us anymore. Just give it to us at the appropriate. If you're going to say say it right after say it right in nobody expected. Cincinnati. That's enough for me. That's enough. Chuck Todd when we return to pick a game. And I think a couple of questions maybe lizards Schultz and a quote by Eliza chills and quote by Elizabeth Warren, then I think everyone should be aware of. I'm Tony corn. Jor listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. This is my favorite add this is the losy. Why is it my favorite add it's short? It's well written. It's to the point twenty minute makes me say things that are totally not too for me. But they could be healthy. At addresses run time because I'm deduct pretty focused on the does what? 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But the stuff that we play during the body of the show, just brilliant. Chuck Todd joins us now. This is Chuck Todd's last kick of this season. We're going to extend to Chuck the ability to come back next season. Because Chuck's record right now is sixty three fifty seven and three. And even if he misses this the worst he's going to be as plus five for the year the best he can be as plus seven for the year, which means if you bet down the line with Chuck Todd, and we gave him games not like, Jeff Ma who picked his own games. If you bet down the line with Chuck Todd you made money. It's a simple as ten thousand dollars a unit. So thank you. Go. There you go take that football. And really spike it on the Jeff Ma. Yes, I believe he was tried trash talking me the other day. Now, get me. Plus six right now over the course of the entire sees that prognostication may have even earned Chuck a spot as a March madness bracket picker we'll have to see. So I believe I believe I I thought I was redefining bills moms low the last time, I've just been Michael Kornheiser. To find the bottom. Itself is the line is if I assume this is still the line two and a half New England minus carafe over the Rams. I'm just gonna say this fifty two people on the PTI show two guests in last today's Peter King the other day and Steve Young yesterday. And I think they know something about football both people without hesitation have said the Rams have more talent than the patriots. Both just flat out Rams have more talent. Steve Young sentence. Not even close in terms of talent. So it's interesting the the bedding line does not necessarily reflect anything, but the will of the people who are betting, right? Yup. That's how that works that worked at the market. It reminds me I and it may be going too far back. But remember that giants raven Super Bowl in two thousand. I think that was that one right? Was two thousand. Yes. And and the giants were favored, and it made no sense. I remember at the time it made no sense. But it was mostly because. Well, New York, and nobody knew anything about the raven prayed at that time. I think there were only like a year and a half old. Well, it was it was deal. Been winning games like twelve seven L season. And yet, I remember thinking boy that feels like, you know, gotta love the defense all this stuff. And that's how I kind of feel about this line. I just feel like the lines wrong. And I love the idea. I'll be honest with what I'll gonna try to do. I love the idea that you can tease this through the seven points. Right. You can tease. This update half really easy. And I love that. I financially I'm all over the Rams I'm gonna take him here at the two and a half because I feel the same way. Like my God, you're getting the better team. I know that come to minutes left in the fourth quarter. When Brady has the ball, you're going to sweat or Goff throws. No, more importantly Goth rose kick six to end the game. I'm gonna say the I knew it. Of course, you know. The the Rams are better at every at every spot on the ball except quarterback. Yeah. And so then that's not insignificant. But I just something tells me that will. Oh in the first quarter. If in documents sue or Donald Donald get to Brady and sack early and they sat him in that first quarter. I think it needs to rain defense is showing up. And I think we're gonna see where does he the ranch? They if Brady if they protect early and you see they can't get them. Then we'll so in the play offs. I read Brady in ninety dropback hit once. Well, but that's what it comes out. And you don't even have to hit them. Yeah. This is what Steve Young said yesterday. He mentioned darnold and sue any said if they get they get to him it's over it's just absolutely over. And and those guys are really good. They're really good. They're overpowering players. Right. Doug think I do. I do. I mean, especially in the thing is you don't know what to shows up. Right. He's kind of a big game guy too. If you can't show for the Super Bowl what other games gonna fire you. So this is interesting. Can I go off off topic for a second with you, by the way, my favorite profit? Yes, you can get on my on my little area. I can get a plus twelve hundred if purple the color of the Gatorade that is dumped the color of the liquid that it's dumb. But what do we think of that per Gatorade? Yeah. I like those. Pets purple the hot color. I have no doubt that the that that McVeigh is sort of useful. And he's going to have more interesting color of data rates. Right. So I wanna ask you can. I just ask you a couple of political questions if you don't mind obviously by profit jokes went nowhere. You're serious. Is terrible serious. Broth chucker. Currently are you currently on helicopter? Your phone is totally offing. Where are you? I've been my my my how palatial wow. Plumping? Can you go to the other wing of the mansion? It's just literally weeding. We can fill in the meantime sleepy who do you like in the Super Bowl? Chris. I like the Tampa Bay Lightning. Thanks, very they're not playing. I'm for the patriots. Because I like. Really rooting for the local team patriots. I know I'm rooting for them. Because I like I want more Bella check in front of a microphone. I just I don't really care who wins. I think like my kids will root for the Rams. I just want more Bella tech. He's every moment when he is in front of a microphone is gold. And now, I have tapped danced nice job. Really well story of my life. Let me hand it off to Chuck Todd. So. Questions. Howard Schultz announcing for something or other is getting absolutely crushed diff-. Do you think I mean, my feeling is he had to expect this? He wants to get this out the early. So the people were forget that he's getting crushed this terribly by every democratic play. I am shocked at how badly he's getting. I think it I told me a couple of things number one electability is going to matter in the democratic primary, and I think I've been wondering this I the lesson. I'm taking away his number one Democrats are going to care about that more. So than maybe we realize so I think remember there in two thousand four when Howard Dean took off suddenly Democrats that oh we gotta worry about electability. Right. And it became a dated dean married Kerry of routine, and suddenly when I watched the reactions in okay, Democrats care number one for some form of about winning, pure and simple. So that that to me is one thing I learned a second was Schultz in particular one thing, I think people need to understand it. He's been trying to find a way to run for president for a couple of years now, and he's probably met with every single democratic operative in Washington one way or the other all of whom have access to media and all of whom sat there when he did this and started trashing them. Wait a minute. So I think there was a little bit of this personal anger at him going. I met with you about this and told you to run as a democrat told you to rent. So there was I think some people unloaded on him. Because they took it personally. I'll say this was Scholtz. I thought he had a poor rollout. He doesn't. I think there is room for somebody like him. I think this country could pull a mccrone moment when I mean by that is this in France frustration over there, basically, their largest parties boiled over to the point, and they're more likely to do this than than our country, just because the way European politics, but mccrone one over there that French president basically out of nowhere, you know, basically came out of nowhere part in, and it was a campaign of, you know, aren't you tired of all this crap? You know, let's try let's try something different. Something new. I actually think that this country that that message has a possibility of being appealing in the right moment. In the right time, depending on what the Democrats do all this stuff. But you've got to lay the foundation for that. In Scholtz, really didn't. He just came out and said, I'm a democrat. But I'm not I can't get nominated. So I wanna tactically run this independent, and that's not the way to do this. If you really going to do this. You gotta lay the predic- at that. Both parties are done both parties are broken and your the your the way to try to get them to to finally see the light. Okay. And I I have one follow up question as Elizabeth Warren faults to the top of my I cannot stand this personal list. This is a direct quote that I watched today on NBC. Elizabeth Warren saying capitalism without rules is theft. That took that is saying that every single to me it is saying every single person out there who wants to start a small business or large business or wants to do anything that is not funded completely by the government is a thief at heart. I me how can you make that statement capitalism without rules as theft? What? This is her campaign. She she will she will likely claim that what she means by the comment issue when she's referring to you know, how the financial markets were and things like that. And that's what she means that capitalism needs new rules and all of this stuff. But let me tell you a bigger problem. I think the Democrats need to realize that they have in twenty seventeen to twenty eighteen they started to get a lot of support from former Republicans, right? And they've won a bunch of house races with a whole bunch of former Republicans voting for democratic members of congress places like Kansas, and Texas and all over and these new voting members have money. Okay. They're wealthier that came from the suburbs. Right. This realignment some of the suburbs into the Democratic Party. It's going to make for an awkward. I think democratic primary when you have this race to the left of Bernie and Warren in particular who do want to rewrite the wolves capitalism in ways that will scare the Jesus out of upper middle class America. And and that is. I wonder if you know, no matter how much you don't like Donald Trump, if he's not reaching into your pocket is that enough for you to at least, you know, vote for him. Right. And if that I if warns the nominee, and it's turned into a class warfare type of thing. Right. A rich versus and it's that aspect, I think Democrats risk losing the the basically the never Trump voter, right? And then that would open you up open up the door for Howard shelter. Frankly. I think somebody else would be a better version of Howard show, but it would open the door for somebody to try to wedge in the middle there. And that by the way is the Scholtz calculus, right? That Warren alienates people like you, Tony. The state don't like the right? Don't like it and think I don't like Trump either, you know, give me a third alternative. Yeah. I mean, if I wanna start a podcast. Oh, you can't your thief. If you do, well, you know know, you did something wrong and immoral human being I don't know I'm taking perhaps to literally, but it just frosted me one morning American politics. She needs to be careful. Everything gets taken literally the day. Comment. What you just said, I imagined. That's the that line will get thrown back in her face over and over again, at least with Trump. I mean, the one thing I would say about Trump is Trump ran by saying everybody in the world who isn't me as stupid, and I'm running against them. I'm gonna get everybody in everything and he got an actually elected. I mean, he's Macron in that sense. Don't you think? Well, I do think he was. Yes. A disruptive force. He was he and Bernie, you know, it's funny. I always said he and Bernie were sort of collectively they both bound to dead carcasses on the side of the road was a donkey and one with an elephant, and they both the animated it and their own vision. But they were the I mean, neither Bernier Donald even wanted to be democrat or Republican, right, right? Just wanted to run for president. And they found the fastest they found. Oh, there's a carcass. I can reanimate dad. Let's go and Trump's created a Frankenstein version of the Republican party. And you could argue that what's going to happen on. The left here with Sanders. He's inspiring a sort of a reanimated Frankenstein version of the democrat. So we need. Thank you. Chuck talk to you soon. Joy, the meet the press with Chuck on Sunday. I'm just saying that Super Bowl Super Bowl date. Meet the press should watch. I did I want to say anything else back. So you question. I don't I can't. No, I don't know that. I did. I wanted to go later in the show before he asking people who would win the Super Bowl, but that's been sorry. Thanks been preempted. Didn't solicit Reginald. I forgot how Reginald Reginald's minus six on the year. I thought I thought we weren't going to let all we're going to let him that's wonderful. Give us Reginald. Hanging with bud. Grant tap tap tap on his purple with let go into. Go into. Sometimes. Too much John. So this. Listening. Good at whistling. I'm good Whistler. This pro. I've read we have not worked hero. The one thing about Reginald, even though Reginald's minus six for the year and cannot get to five hundred in the playoffs. Reginald's eight three eight and three Claire did you did you talk to him about that went down to the zoo? And I thought it'd be it with the shutdown of the government. He actually left town. He's probably somewhere warm. Sure. No, he Skype with me from bluer. Minnesota was hanging out grant outside grilling some dogs and kill basa in shorts in the t shirt. So they took some time off to the end of the game. And he just held up a noise photograph of him on a duck boat. And this is several years ago is in Boston with Victor kiam on the boat to climb used on them, Greg kite and a man who have to Whitey Bolger. So clearly he's got tons of the patriots. He will take the patriots lay the two and a half. He also had some pets will Romo on Nance say hotlanta during the game. He said, no, this is just going to say, Hello friend. Yes. He's gonna touch that ten thousand dollars to win one hundred dollars, by the way that that will Adam not Lanta. Yes. Not will say Hello friend. Oh, hello. Friend, willow will Adam LeVine be shown wearing a hat. He said, yes, he will be going to be cold who will school more in who will school more points. The patriots or Caleb Stewart in his game versus album Albany on Saturday weird proc. He's gonna take care of the student. This loves going. It's the great Danes of. Albany and the the last time was the over on how many times coach Ted wrath will be mentioned he's the get back coach and the Rams. Supposed to hold him from getting onto the field. The over under is three and a half. He's going to take the under on that. If I was Adam LeVine. And there was a better about me. I would. Yes. Entre percent, we're hat Romo to there's like a how many plays we'll remote correctly predict zero. Did you see because he'll say I'm not to Wall Street Journal did a piece in which they watch forty six hours of Romo commentary over this year to try to get an exact percentage of what he got sixty sixty seven sixty eight. Okay. Sorry, thunder Steeler. Got are you asking? You start with a question. Eight percent. That's is it. I don't know. Gary. Apparently he's that would that would account for sixty eight percent completion rate. Right. Probably around where he was. 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But if it is somebody else's you need to send permission from them or we're not gonna play. Yes. This is beautiful. Is this beautiful? Really? If people have talent back. Neil Email us a music by sending it to jingles at Tony Kornheiser show. Dot com. And before you ask we have another few days with the Johnny. Oh, promo code of super TK. Our current deal runs out them after the Super Bowl look for more stuff in the spring. But definitely take advantage of that this weekend. We know you'll be stuck inside. So pick out some warm weather clothes. I want to get some shirts. I'll help you do that. All right. This is news. Go ahead is Mr Tony. And today's newscast is brought to you by Ned Ryerson's insurance. He's for you. Study was speaking being we will start off with Binghamton in the bad cats after letting up forty four points in the first time they said we've got to buckle down and really get tough on defense. And what are they? They held him. Just forty two points in the second half. Unfortunately, they've lost. They lose to the hot for the hawks eighty six to sixty six and sixteen on the seasonably somebody from the Hartford hawks set a school record for three pointers six three pointers get on. Yes. Yes. John koshen right there guard him. Yes. And Sam the sham. I said who's that guy? Somebody going to put a body on that Sam the sham Sessoms lead all the bad cats with twenty two Goodyear Goodyear. The big potato off night just one of ten from the flu. That's thanks. You don't go into the XL centre and walk out. Well, I don't know that that is excellent for place. But that's that's the quote on cool big arena in Hartford. Yes. The XL center. Used to be the Hartford Civic Center Jabber. No, I never covered wheel as they used to actually put a floor down and have tennis matches their Torville. Indeed there with my mom ice skating. They had a mall. Collapsed on that. Did that was a big moment that that the Miami river bridge collapse like the two big moments much floor seats. Wow. NBA Mr Tony Gwynn by the Washington Wizards last night, one of seven eighty nine over the paces Victor depot going out for the Pacers in three. Yeah. The wizards are going to they're going to make the playoffs even without John wall. They're going to go seven or eight. They're going to make the playoffs. You know? The biggest surprise in the east is the nets. Yes. Yes. Niki good the name. Angelo wrestling already won as many games this year as they won all of last year and the ngelo Russell a guide at the Lakewood screen STAN in wanted to get rid of. He looks like an all star Spencer Dinwiddie a guy who you hadn't heard of is averaging twenty points. That's doing great. I have no idea coaches them. I've no idea who else is on the roster. But the they've made a big move. Are they still owned by the Russian or did? He get. Yes. Yes. Yes. Procure off the Pacers are still going to make it. I mean, I don't know. So their theory. Tony. So listen to this. Yeah. Ten and twenty two would get them to forty two and forty oh in thirty two because their own three with that one. I don't know that you can extrapolate that out. I think they might win a game. The stabbing yet. The nets lineup which I just looked up. You wouldn't. I don't know. Harris Lavertu is on that Joe Harris who was on UVA. Remember that guy bounced around for a few years Shabazz Napier from Connecticut. Remember him the Connecticut guard the pins and went to UNC Rhonda, Halas, Jefferson went to earth Zona and Ed Davis. It's kind of like a lot of pieces eighteen coach there must be a pretty good coat who hold on cost. They have won as many games at consent. Okay. First year, right? Last year head coach since twenty six a great job. Looks like the pelicans trying to scrub history, or at least eliminate any reference to Anthony Davis coast comes a few days after his agent came out and said he'd like to be traded Anthony Davis for this fifty LeBron. They didn't find Chris what's his name, the Rich, Paul rich. I didn't find they find Anthony gave us the bronze right in the check on that. It doesn't seem like the brain is tempering all over the place with his tampering end colluding. No, no collision. Show showing the in the smaller on this one. Well, no collusion witch hunt. Yes. Apparently in the pelicans pre game hype video they raised them from. Yes, they say they did it because they were afraid of a negative reaction towards him. He's there. He's dressed not just in uniform. But he he's on the sidelines and stuff like that. I think that's it that just. Can't ever play again for them. Right. If you don't if you don't care for the trade deadline play for the rest. Story that they're not taking calls that they're like not answering calls about trade offers who is taking calls chatter for for the wings. That's right or a wings that you can take out. We're taking calls Super Bowl fifty three Ponti right here. Chebet? How many TV's are him eleven. Sound in about five don't work. I've already booked my Super Bowl fifty four plant which you need to do. Yes. We will go to the Washington Redskins. They've made an interesting higher shoot. What believable higher? Rub ryan. Let me get to this. Rob Ryan is a very famous foot presence. Finest hour foot. He's I don't know. The rob Reiner has ever been a head coach. But Robin ranks Ryan twin brothers. Rob Ryan is a big strapping guy. He's a move set. And he's been a defense coordinator a lot of places in this league. And he is not a shrinking violet and the Redskins hired him not to coach all the linebackers. Just the inside linebackers. I don't know who the defensive coordinator is on the red scrape mosquitoes going to get punched in the throat by the second week of train Cam, rob. This is not going to work. Rob Ryan is not going to accept this very menial status on a bad team without hitting some. So I would perhaps that's design. Let me take you. A couple of weeks when when the exact right we're trying to get in Todd Bowles. I think we're trying to get Greg. Greg williams. It was the reporting, correct. That meniscus sat in on the. Yes report that was. But yes, they have what do you think about this guy and the pitch was they were just trying to pick brains and get some ideas, and they want harder to couple of guys who had had head coaching. What would you would you? Would you take the defense quieter same reaction? It's like if the Redskin believe inside linebackers have two good games of ro that he's out the door thing. They did the other day they hired a thirty three year old kid and then to be their offensive coordinator. And this higher can be explained in two sentences. We let Sean McVay go and he's thirty three. Let's take somebody who's thirty three thirty three year old right now seems good idea in say played under Tom Brady Lincoln Riley, having a very good year. Thirty-three worth. Day for you, see Lincoln Riley gets a new deal from the university of Oklahoma. Bumping his salary up from four point eight million to six million five. Yeah. Doing six million dollars there there. There's a clause in that contract every year. He stays he gets a bonus of seven hundred thousand dollars just to stay. That's he's not a raise. That's his bonus seven hundred thousand dollars to stay. Yes. I don't know how long he's going to stay. But let me let me say this now. And and it will haunt me. You can bring it back to me anytime you want. He has produced two Heisman Trophy winners in a row Baker Mayfield and Cuyler Murray. Jalen hurts. So we think can't pass we think you can't pass. We saw it at Alabama. Jalen hurts is going to spend one year is the quarterback at Oklahoma. If Lincoln Riley can teach Jalen hurts who does not get intersected much. Just doesn't go down the field game manager with his check down guy. If he can if he can. Get him to where he's marginal. As sort of a pro prospect. He's going to win another heintzman. And at that moment every single team in the NFL. That's not coached by either Bill Belichick. Sean payton. Mcveigh is going to offer him ten million dollars a year. That's what they're gonna do. And he'll just walk away from the seven hundred K bonus for that. I think. Exactly. So when you say, you don't know how long he's gonna stay. It's because the NFL would come coming, right? Oklahoma for a college John point point Maryland's filled that position so he's not coming here. Right. Not gonna go to a mom that you wanted to discuss the transfer rules. Yes, there's a transfer rule in place in in college football. Now that usually forces a person to sit out a year when they transfer from one program to another it's been in place for hundred years in recent years things have changed. They have made exceptions various exceptions, one exception is the graduate transfer. This is how Russell Wilson left North Carolina State and played immediately at Wisconsin. This is how Doug Jalen hurts is going to trae immediately because he graduated in for years. Right. That happens. There's a guy at Ohio State named Tate. Somebody rather take Mantell. Okay. So he's recruited by Ohio State, and he's recruited by urban Meyer. He's coached what's the new head coaches? First name. It's Ray is his last name Ryan day. I think okay. So he's coached by Ryan day this past year. Ryan days offense coordinator, and he's the quarterback guy. So he's coaching. This guy tape Mortell, and he probably doesn't think all that much of him because he took somebody else in as a transfer took somebody else in so take Mortell originally says I'm not going anywhere. I love Ohio State choose this guy. You know, I'm competition for this guy that lasted an hour and hour to half. And he decided he wanted to go to Miami. Now, we can't go as graduate transfer PT. Can't he's not a graduate. But he he applied under a it's not a hardship rule. I'm just using hardship. I'm using hardships imaginary? And he said, look, I was recruited by urban Meyer. I want to play for Meyer urban Meyer left the school. I think I should be allowed to leave him play right away. And they are mulling over whether this should be true. If it is to anybody can leave him play right away anywhere in the country that is ridiculous thing because stop just stop. This does Tony. I thought he was nice. He was mean wanna go somewhere else somewhere else? Now. I believe that in most cases, you should be able to leave on Wednesday and play on Thursday. You didn't go to Ohio State because you wanted an academic degree from Ohio the coach athletes go for coach. That's that's why they go athletes who think of themselves as pro quality, go for coaches, not for schools. They go for the coach if Mike she chef ski left Duke tomorrow, a lot of people wouldn't go to Duke and dukes great school. They wouldn't do it. The only exception I would make and this is I'll finish the segment on this. The only section I would make is I would not let you transfer immediately within the conference cook. If you look at the SEC everybody who's ever coached for Nick Sabin becomes a head coach in the SEC. They do. That's poaching. If you take the kid with you, you know, that's that's not a good idea. You have to I think you have to sit there's a hundred other programs. Do you can go to if this kid is leaving the big ten Ohio State for the SEC for the ACC Miami? I find why would why would you force him to sit out a year under any conditions. Why not hurting the only condition? I would put on that for sitting out is in and you alluded to this. And it's not it's not conference. It would be coach. You can't go with the coach. If you do you have to sit out a year coach, candy, right? You know what I'm saying? Coach K moves the Tino should not be able to do that to go with the coach because at at that point anywhere else. You should be everybody would be given new jobs once they had good recruiting rakes much health thought justifiably that he'd be the start. Nick Shifter Haskins went pro and this kid just in fields transfers like he's going to be transfers in because Ryan day wants him. Yeah. And he was also not gonna play in Georgia because the other guys playing ahead him. So yeah. Jake from leg, that's it. That's it. We will have old guy radio when we return. That's why jet if Ma will be folded into old guy radio when we return. 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Yes, we guitarist Reggie young passed away. And we weren't overly familiar with Reggie. But it turns out he played on a number of really amazing songs, including this one where he plays the guitar intro until we thought we don't pay gray had two big hits the add this and the in Craig graph. Yes. And completely different song pay off these big. This was originally written for a gun in John Henry, Kurtz, and it really didn't do Kurtz his day out. Right. Yes. That's right. And then great recorded it, and it was hit number five says big fan. That's. It's fun to beautiful salt. Yeah. I've liked the song very much Jeff Ma with us. He is. Indeed. Let me explain the deal with Jeff mom who has the wonderful podcast debt the process, and whose partner in that roof is Peabody got hosed out of a million dollars. Jeff mom was one in one. The last time we spoke for the playoff games. Jeff Ma is forty five thirty six and one that is plus nine he can end says. Thirty six. Forty five seven Owen. It doesn't matter plus nine which means if he wins this one he's plus ten on the year. And even if he loses his plus eight, so if you bet with Jeff Mont every single time, you made money, Jeff as you look at this particular game, and you can you can walk away from it. If the line is some to you I'll let you walk away and just go plus do that just hanging up right now. Anything that would be very cool. On the line and say, nothing what are you looking at on this game? Well, it's an interesting game. The Rams opened the small favor, and I think by most analytical system, that's kind of what people believe it's been bet up all the way to where the Rams are now two and a half point underdog in. There's a lot of people sitting around waiting to see if it goes to three on game day. I think the value is on the Rams. I'm I am patriots fan. I'm from New England. So it's hard for me to to wanna bet against New England. But I do think the value here is on the Rams I want to see if it gets to three, but I probably would end up taking the Rams I have some futures bets on the patriots from early in the season where I'm getting six to one on them to win the Super Bowl. So I will probably take some of the Rams here. Some money on the Rams here to serve hedge off some of that risk Peter King. We had Peter King on the PTI show the other day, and he said in September. He said he wrote that the Rams and the patriots would be in the Super Bowl. That's pretty good to get to get that. Right. And they actually show up in the Super Bowl. So then you you've had you've won money on the patriots all year. So you have money to play with this one, right? Well, no, no, they need to win. Beginning of the year, six to one of the home run scenario would be bets the Rams plus two and a half patriots. You wonder too, right? Jeff. Patrick hover. Yeah. That would that would be the perfect scenario that happened. When did you point? Point. When did you get him at six to one before the season? No, they were they were actually six to one. There are bunch of times during the seeds. I think the six to one was maybe in the first or second week. Remember, they they had some tough times this season. Yes, where there was even time towards the end of the season where it looked like they may not get the by. I think I I that some more on it when I saw that scenario where it didn't look like they were going to get the buy. And but I thought Houston was going to lose two one of their games. And I thought the patriots would win out. It was right after they lost the Miami. I think was and then he said end up losing in that game Philly last minute. And that's what puts the patriots in a position to get this by do you? There are these prop debts. I I'm not one of those people who pays attention to them. Although I know they are talked about and talked about and talked about as somebody who does this. You know seriously does this for living and cares about this. I'm assuming. Think prop bets are idiotic. But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe like him. Well, there there's some prop this different categories of providence. Right. There's some of the profits that you just for sort of entertainment and fun like you can bet on the number of Donald Trump Typos on tweaks on Sunday number you can bet whether that's gonna be over laugh or not and at flooding that one typo if you all he needs one types, right? And you win that back. Does it have to be works related tweets? Jeffrey any tweet any tweet on Sunday. What it said what the rule I'll be right back. Then there's also some. But there are some I think historically Rufus, you know, obviously, who you guys know he had his early succession sports betting was all around props because they're hard for them to price. Some of these props in the prompts that I'm talking about are things like there's a category than people. Call bridge jumper best. Meaning if you lose them, you're going to go jump off a bridge, but the general public doesn't like to to take these long or give up these long odd things like no overtime or no safety or no special teamer defensive touchdown all of those have value from a statistical standpoint because you know, no safety is something like minus eight hundred meaning you have to give up eight hundred dollars to win one hundred dollars. So a lot of people don't want to do that. Right. It's similar to the situation. When Floyd Mayweather fought Conor McGregor. Everyone wanted to bet on McGregor. Just because they thought like, oh, these are. Long ause? But there was so much value on Floyd Mayweather because really like there was no chance he was gonna lose that fight. All right. This is good. Thank you so much. Jeff. We appreciate it. No problem. On the season. I love Jeff and bringing you back don't rest assured, we're bringing you back if you'll come back and PJ really should focus on number one. I listened to their podcast every across and number two Rufus really did legit. Not just because he's not just because he's been in here with us. And Ma he got skunk by any other news and for a million dollars. Not not for not love. Let me say this to his credit to his credit. He has not said I would have won that million. He he has admitted. He's not sure what he would have done had. He had access to have the chance to a chance, isn't that? What Elizabeth Warren was really talking about. Well, they're interesting guys. The process, and you should pay attention, and Jeff Jeff is from the east graduate like everyone says. I just wanted to mention something without giving anything away in particular. I am now up to speed on detective, and Michael and I had this chat when I was driving home yesterday. And he made some very very good points about the acting in it. This is not Michael Nyerere both in. But we are not we have not jumped all the way in. We are not covered by the water yet. We are up to our waist, but we're not gonna stay active. Okay. So it's not McConnell. Hey in Harrelson. Right. You tuned in to see the first two detective because they were mesmerizing as actors McConnell. Hey, had those small things he did the inhaling of the cigarettes. The unwrapping cigarette pack. We went this is just so cool. I wanna get involved the acting in this is very good. But as yet the acting in this doesn't it's not the acting. That's bringing you to it. It's the store to me. Yes. You have your. I just wanted to ask you about that. Because I agree with you. A great act. I agree with you where the spec to the acting. However, and tell me your feeling on this. I actually like that dynamic like this relationship more than relationship that right ship was rather this relationship time, that's friendlier. It's more would actually happen in real life working invite. Yes. And and there's the subtext there of the racial thing work in that out. We fight for. I agree. One hundred percent was originally not going to be portrayed by an actor of color. Oh, I didn't know that. Yes. So he sold that. He did. He might take away so far as I knew her, Sean Lee was good. I've been really impressed by Stephen doors per triumphantly as it goes on. I got under. I kind of like artist is the Vince Vaughn. Yeah. You start to see some of that deaths in the in the ten year ninety. Yeah. Yeah. I think him talking about their relationship Mahathir Charlene his relationship and had you seen him. And now he's on the task force know all that stuff. I think is I found him especially in the fifth episode. And there's you know, there's a. It's not that persona rather where there's a rare full, I know I'm being talking broadly. But he thought that fourth episodes his best, and he seems to be getting better, and I like their relationship more as it goes. Stamp one. I don't think anyone could argue with what you're saying only with his character when he visits the pursell father in time getting so what I was saying to dad is all these breadcrumbs you're happy to follow along. But it's just it's a little it's a little too overt into how they're laying down to say. I'm with you. But speed it up a little bit. If that's what you're going to be doing very slow like the first and another just another these other characters, unlike in the first one where it was all McConnell, hey in Harrison days ago. There are other interesting characters. There are more percents other. That's I scoot mcnairy who plays the per cell. Father is outstanding in his very very good in another show. People should watch called godless, which is a western I know that can scare people away. But was a Viking eat episode thing. The woman who plays lady Marion doubt Naby is in it an excellent show that won awards last year. But he's terrific in that. And I think really. Good in this as well. And I wanted to just talk briefly, I got a note from George Mitch of it. The other day joys in Boston today at the at an event, which I will get to in a second who will be in Washington tomorrow, and he's hosting dinner. And I said I would go and have a drink. But I don't I don't stay as everybody knows I go, and then I get there early. And I knew ask you can leave. Now, this was lovely. He pointed out that today is the one hundred birthday or would have been the one hung birthday of Jackie Robinson. Oh, and Jackie Robinson for those of you who are young and not as old as I which is ninety five percent of the people in the country. Jackie Robinson is on a social political and moral level. The most important athlete in the history of the United States of America. He's a great athlete too. But what happened in nineteen forty seven. I guess it was I think that he played for the dodgers. Yes. In nineteen forty seven says when he integrated major league baseball is it's that's the watershed moment in sort of social equality in America, which is not to say everything was equal from that day on because that's ludicrous. But that was you can that's the marker in the ground. That's the most important thing on any other list of the most important athletes for a variety of reasons. Not just social Babe Ruth is on the list. I mean, Babe Ruth legitimize sports in America more than anyone else would Ali. Well, he's he's, but you might say to me that there was a heavyweight champion like before Babe Ruth yet. There was there were heavyweight champions. But Babe Ruth playing a team sport. Which was more accessible to more people and did not have the the sort of repulsive quality of punching some guy in the head those brains fell out, you know, so that's why Babe Ruth is on that list. Muhammed Ali is on that list. Billie. Jean King is on that list. Curt flood is on that list. And I think forty years from now when people are people who are in their twenties and thirties now are old LeBron James is going to be on that list because he changed the way he's changed. The notion of the power that athletes, there's some other Cowan cap, but Jesse Robinson the I don't I don't know. I mean, I'm asking I don't advocate in his own behalf in the way that all these other people Martina or can she not from the shadow, maybe maybe, but Billy Billy Jim Dwight Howard. I think yeah. Why certainly? Twelve. There was a time that there were no black players in baseball. Or in any sport in any what we call major leagues in any sport. Did that it did not happen? And Jackie Robinson, changed all of that. And as a consequence, and I think most people would agree to this dive, very very young because of all the things he had to endure an endure is the right word because he was very carefully taught and schooled and agreed to agreed to submerging his personality completely and turning the other cheek until there were no cheeks left and time and time and time and time again, and I believe is widow Rachel is still alive. I believe she's thinking that he was awarded the congressional medal of honor was not Jackie Robinson. Yeah. I think that will be the subject of one of the things that that the roundtable that George Mitchell, which I think it's the Fenway writers group still alive. She's ninety six years old. He passed in nineteen seventy two long age of thirty. No, no. He was in his thirties. He was in his fifties. Fifties. Yes. Yes. That's right. It was in his early fifties. There is a great story that Phil you've risen tells Billy crystal tells a great story of helping him across the street in Manhattan, recognizing him and helping him across the street, and I can't do Justice to it. So just tell you to try to find it. If you subscribe to it's all. Did you wanna say something I was looking up? Jackie Robinson awards. It said in nineteen forty seven. There was a poll for who is the most popular Man United states. He came in second behind Bing Crosby is that. Right. Wow. Sort of interesting fifty three when he passed sorry. But aren't tap. But tap. Are you? Okay. So we will get out of here now and. Well, Gary did this earlier in the show? Do you? Do you want to say who you're picky Super Bowl? That'll keep people tuned in stay tuned for that when we return. No, we're not now, it's either. Now now whenever. Y'all. I'll take New England the just because Michael in the waste management open. I think Matthew from Oklahoma state's gonna surprise here. We go. All. Robot's there to Email ready? No Naito with the patriots. Yeah. Okay. You're running New England jerk. That's why we will get out of here Email and jingle when we return we're not here tomorrow. We were here today to serve you breakfast. And you didn't show up handful of people for whom I am grateful. I'm Tony Kornheiser. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. You have everything you need for a new rule. You won't it pays Bobby. It's forty foot long by the men's room, you still that he. Just imagine exposure in you can sign your knees. Corner. Yeah. The little hairs needs mending plumbing, beep loan. Info the parent cheese in not back yet. The other is soon real. There's no need to peanut is goes jobs. Just read wise. It's so good. Ever tell true I've told the story that Carol once had this boyfriend when she was in high school who gave her her opponent. And Carol was really, you know, but can't wrote a poem opponent for you. And it was she's got everything she needs. She's an artist. She don't she can take the dark out of the nighttime. She can paint the daytime black. And of course, those showed it to me. I said, well, this is crap. Who's this guy? Why are you dating this guy? This is Bob Dylan. He's just stole Bob Dylan and claimed it for himself. Carol was dating Bob Dylan. That's story. No, not dating. You. Like this song. It's called Mr. tambourine, man. I haven't tried it. What do you think? No. So these guys will lose her realize total loser. Let me thank before we get to the mail bag. Let me thank the hosts of meet the press Chuck Todd, and the host of bet the process, Jeff Ma let me thank today. Sponsors lows and Sonos the baby boy Buzi is here with wiz. See walkie around throwing the party pints around remember to listen and subscribe to archived episodes of the Tony Kornheiser show where every listen to podcasts including apple podcasts Spotify and Google play. And if you listen to the show through I tunes, please leave us a review. 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The Orion Effect : special guest Independent Para-researcher ,Charlie Rivero

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The Orion Effect : special guest Independent Para-researcher ,Charlie Rivero

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Spotify more Thank you guys and everybody so much for being a part of the show with us Okay underneath the table to it was like So we have a wonderful show installed for you guys the travelers and those like we have an independent payroll researcher coming on tonight so my being no him some of them. Don't if you don't know him. You're gonna find that exactly who charlie is now. I'm going to say like this. And i'm thinking wrong but i'm not sure on how you pronounce his last name. I see it as rivero. So ladies and gentlemen boys goes children of all ages. It is our pristine opportunity. Introduce you to the apparel researcher. Himself charlie rivero bumped up donald. The makes is he going to come on board. Bring him on its thanking. I know right. come on. Don't do this to us tonight. Oh that's a lot of energy you know why it's because you know i think we have blocked out gusts. That's not good not actually block them. Roque talk is saying. Oh you know. Let me think about letting them on and it's true. Yeah well we had to go. And now we got reboot the 'cause i don't think you know because we don't have the board anymore because phone kicked it off your yeah. I don't think we have sydney. Oh look live blog. Talk radio on. It's still taking on. This is going to be a crazy crazy show last week in week before i apologize charlie. Okay let's see if we can get your. Let's see if we can get on now. Well i have not been doing. Hey charlie can you hear us. I sure can. Oh yea your talk was giving us a bit about. I don't want to cooperate. Hi charlie how you guys doing out you know. I'm trying to hang in there as much as i can. You know so far so good. Excellent allow me to introduce you to captain kim. These are the co host of the show Kim runs our board in the blog. Toss side and cat takes care of facebook and they take care of me. So that'd be introduced now charlie. Did i pronounce your last incorrect How would you pronouncing it river. Eero rivero rivero. Okay so like hold on rivera. Yeah exactly exactly what. Okay yes. I usually tell. People river river own reveal. Okay pronounces stain them off. So okay to start playing already game on charlie. I'm gonna let you know now. These two will john early. Come after me. Twenty four seven so if they go. They slam me just giggle. It's okay 'cause i'll just go in the bathroom. I make a little girl anyway. Bird and thank you so much for sharing this out. Yes thank you keith. And i also want to say real quick before we start jumping. Thank you to everybody who blog talk radio on facebook Thank you if you're catching us. After the show and the archival spotify or auto burst array here again on blog. Talk radio or you catch the archive version on video. You're not going to you. Do not wanna miss the show. This is going to be an incredible charlie. I cannot thank you for taking your time of being honest chat with us tonight. Oh no. I mean. I can't thank you guys enough for having me on. It's an honor and You know i was really excited for the for for the whole thing to be honest with you. Yeah that's what i'm talking about. Maybe we got a new traveler. Charlie i got one question for you. Let's get this ball started showing absolutely. Why are you doing the. Paranormal charlie wi. Wow you know. There's i would like to say that. I started the paranormal because of a personal experience. But actually my my thing in life in general has always been wanting to help people. But i never thought it was actually going to be in this form I actually started back in nineteen eighty seven. And you know. I was learning a lot of different things with More old school techniques at you know people don't really know today I still use them. And there are some that i think people. I'm sure have heard of but my mentor. At the time his name was doug kerensky the third he was eighty five years old back then and he was close spreads with Ed and lorraine warren so there was a lot was passed down to him at am passed down to me and so on. But when i knew that i can actually help people in this field It was more about the science behind it to understand exactly how to approach it because it helped me understand how to talk to people. Were afraid to even bring it up when they needed help because it was so unusual. You know what i mean. We're absolutely was yeah. It was a very interesting for people. Actually say hey look at. I have an issue. I don't know what to do about it. I'm scared because everybody. I think was more concerned of being judged as this. Maybe they were crazy or whatever you know. So how did you transition from Just trying to look for them to the scientific tino transitional from ghost hunter to a researcher Okay well you know One of the first things that help people to understand the deceased. You have to respect them. And i think it's really trying to figure out the transition from where we are now to when somebody passes on and for me being able to think about okay besides investigating the location and trying to figure things out and try to look deeper into things you know. What is it about this particular person that may have passed away or you know twenty years ago or maybe somebody that just passed away last night that i was talking with that. That could have been assistance to us. What can we learn from it. Because i think we all want to know what goes on and my thing is coming as close to that as possible and this is why i started over ten years ago with the name haunted and along because everything i do i do it alone I do put myself in vulnerable positions And i gotta make sure things are done properly. Because if i do have any type of evidence that capture or anything like that. It has to be inevitable. You know what. I'm saying. Because the last thing i to do is say without. Let's just say a while back. I was asked by a tv show. I'll put it that way. If i was willing to make up a story for one of their tv shows going to their episodes man. That's a no go for me. That that's i'm done with that that so that's where i draw one. That's it you know Right so would it becomes scientific and put that with your investigations And you have enough answers to give people when they have all the questions it gives them a little more hope and confidence to to deal with what they're dealing with if anything at all if that makes any sense just couldn't get Author lee from basic would like to know prior to investigation. Do you You check a have a checklist of requirements like Such as drug use in the house. Alcohol use we were etc yes. i try to get as little information as possible as far as what happened there at the at the location but but depending on the extremity of the case I still go in with respect. And i do sit down and talk with them a little bit about what i do what i look for and how i want to help but and then i tell them look and i asked this and i ask everybody You know it. is it really crucial. Yes it is do. You can have medication. Are you on medication. What does the medication for Do you read certain books. I have dealt with people that actually You wouldn't think an a hate sounding judgmental but you wouldn't think they would have done any of this but they had a library and ninety percent about libraries all black magic Right yeah a lot of witchcraft stuff and whatnot People that play with the week board day you know. There's a lot that i can say about the ouija board. But but yes i do go in and i do have a list of questions that i'd like to make sure that i can clear out of the way that way. It becomes a little bit easier to approach the investigation and not have any influence on the investigation. If that makes sense isn't really and it's actually a really good idea to get a list of the medications that a person taking because a lot of the elderly do not know all the side effects of medications that they're taking actually last year. We just ran into that that number cases. Yeah yeah so you know. Get a list of the medications and you can look up the side effects of medications and maybe even educate the personal that on what they're taking well you know and yet at the crazy thing is done investigation in nashville tennessee. Many years ago and The girl the young lady that that one of my assistant kipling feeling sick you walked in home you know those other things going on but she feeling sick so i asked her to leave the home and let me go into the home myself and when i went in i was feeling ill but it wasn't. It wasn't An unusual type of illness. I was just feeling nauseous and stuff like that but it wasn't. It wasn't normal in the sense that it was. It wasn't instantaneous. So for me. That immediately told me to break out the my my meter carbon monoxide and. Sure enough there was they. It was bad. It was bad. And i told her you can't be going back in there until they get settled out because you can get die and get more sick than when she. Because she was sick she was ill. And it was getting progressively worse. You know so. That's it's important to really really understand your surrounding than what you're getting into pusher. Yeah your surroundings. That's another good point. Two meters actually quite marred. I don't think i've seen many people with that in their kids. So that's a that's a smart idea. Yeah yeah it's huge. It's huge and believe it or not. It doesn't even have to be anything. Fancy you know you can go to like a hardware store like a home depot or whatever you wanna call it. And you know they they they. They still the smoke detectors that have a carbon monoxide detector. Yeah those are actually better because those have instantaneous reactions. So when you know taking that with you Will will help out because you can walk in and start going. And that's kind of what happened with me. When i when i walked in feeling second went back out grabwood. I had soon as i walked in the went nuts. You know so. I knew right away that there's no sense in trying to even do anything else because it wasn't even going to be a break magnetic field at that point you know right and sherry would like to share and she said What is your favorite equipment to use. And what would you not like to use or trust then where everybody's jumping in quick. Well i know we're one of my favorite Pieces of equipment for sure. Believe it or not. I have two of them. One of them is my thermal imaging. i really love that. I mean with everything because it's so precise but believe it or not the The other ones that. I really love is talcum powder There are ways to use it. Not just a matter of spreading powder on the floor and see if you get you know. There are ways of being able to approach on how. You're doing that along long cotton balls and all that stuff school but it works phenomenal. It's one of my favorite things to us because it is so sensitive. And it'll grab your attention right away so anything that allows you to break another your other equipment. Well and that's a. That's a good point that you brought up charlie telcom can be magnified so if something gets near it just even if it's a little bit it'll create The image like if the if you just a little dusting over top of a piece of block piece of plastic. You'll see it. So that's a good point charlie. Well they can't really says he's gonna make sure that it sees the roommates deal and you don't have any airflow. Oh yeah yeah that was definitely usually wanna make sure wherever you're investigating i usually The main power source period right That way i know no interruption of being coming on But the the the talcum powder can be really really tricky. Because if you actually put powder on the table and put your thumb on top of it pushed down. It'll it'll get your finger right so right depending on where you're at what's going on and how it reacts is going to tell you what to look out for in certain ways because if you get more of a sweep effect and you see some type of mines or like somebody blew something across the talcum powder. There's definitely An energy manifested. That's moving around. Now here's writing something that like you see like somebody pushed powder out of the way you have an open area. That means there's pressure applied now for it to do that. And you know just kinda wanna see what type of energies manifesting right that in there So it's gonna depend on how. How actually reacts to where where you're putting up and i'm going to just add to that if i may because we're just talking about a specific subject that talcum powder is also i slightly heavier powder so if there's my eto actually catch the vibrations if you have it like on that piece of polly up the polyurethane and many people have seen this experiment where the vibrations will create a picture. Well the same thing we'll help. What would talcum powder. It'll actually create Universal pictures if you out the best way explain it so i just wanna follow diets and people know if you deal with racial issue you could follow it up with that because different depending on the hurts will give you the different signs and you can actually go to youtube running Google it. i'll give you the hurts and with that design is for the hurt. Kimberly that see use Was it talcum. Glauca better But now using cornmeal cornmeal you know. I've i've tried corneal longtime ago. The the problem with that is it attracts insects so It's it's an immediate type of thing that you can have issues with I personally don't don't use it I personally would want to But when it comes to like power that like again the talcum powder and you're talking about the vibrations and stuff one of the best way to actually monitor those vibrations. If you just get one of the big flashlights that you take camping well it doesn't have to be expensive but you you put it on. Its back and turn it on that way. The light facing up and you put the powder on the lens of the Flashlight and then you put it in the camera to that because it's going to pick up the slightest movement and you'll be able to see whether it goes up or sideways or if it just moves around the the lens of the flashlight So there's there's a there's definitely good ways to to use that stuff but our wheat flour cornmeal starch baking soda. Those are a little bit heavier A lot of people say will. That's even better because if it moves that means there's something definitely there. Well it's kind of on the contrary there. There are things that can naturally move those because of the type of grain that they are And so you it. It's i think that's going to be more of a personal preference. But that's just my look on. That's my take on it. That's a good point. I kimberly really makes a good point. Though she's old homes with wood floors. You can be walking in one room and it adjust in another room to creepy that poof in the in the hall where you laid the the powder even though nobody right there so you really have to. it'll it would be situational. Sure yes yes. Yes that's That's usually what i would consider more of a netted area Because she's absolutely correct. I mean you start walking around these floors and any slight movement. I mean older houses. You know how bad they settle on the with. The heat would expand and so on and so forth and get all this crackling. Yeah i mean the slightest move can shake anything. So yeah i mean she's definitely a hundred percent right on that But i'm sorry. I if you're in a place by yourself you're not going to be worried about that because you're obviously no you're not gonna be walking around later or where you're one brown for which was leading to another quick with my other questions but yeah that's a good point if you're by yourself you're taking out everything. Yes yeah and when. I say usually places like that or or a netted area When there is possible movement on the floor. If you're walking. Because even if i have the camera setup was for that Looking at it without her. Before and i wanna look in one walk towards the other end. There's still could be a possibility with a four board. Does move or there's some kind of creaking that back and create whatever. But if i'm more concerned about the powder that have on the floor. I will get a plastic bag just from the grocery store. Whatever plastic bag laid on the floor and put the powder on the bag because there there is a static connection with the bag in powder so if you run in the world it's not going to move the back. It's it's not gonna talk back. You see what i'm saying So a little crazy tricks and people. I think would probably look at me like i'm crazy i think they do anyway but That's the point. I'm going to build a little portable faraday cage that. I wanna put his beer box than when they do bach sessions because verde should not picking up the sound waves from the frequent from the radio stations and stuff so if you actually get something then that would be something pretty cool. Yeah yeah. I've seen the one thing i have seen. A lot of people do is when they're when doing their spirit box They hook it up to like an amplifier or A larger outsource speaker That is like the worst thing you can do As a as a music producer audio producer filmmaker you know You sound design and stuff like that and my whole studio is all set up for everything but The problem with that is these amplifiers. Speakers are prepared fan. They're built and fixated on away to receive input and to output audio a certain way Right with your trouble your head and stuff like that anything. That's your first your headphones. That's fine but even that kind of pushing it because the is always gonna change just like when somebody has a cell phone people ask me. Hey charlie what kind. What kind of app you recommend for for your phone to prepare normal. You only have two things on there. Actually no you have three. You have your flashlight if you wanna use your voice recorder for memos and then your camera you as far as photograph but as far as apps there are no apps because of telephone was created for communication not to detect the difference and the change of the magnetic fields or in temperature and stuff like that. You know what. I'm saying so there really are upset are gonna work. Well okay i well. It's more of a. This is a good point. And let's talk about something you touched on real quick. She's seen somebody use a karaoke machine. Oh yeah no that that. There are so many different frequencies that can just data loan because that's made to be able to bring in audio for you to exchange in you know so the frequency can be. It can be manipulated. Unfortunately to the point that the not that the person would do it but the machine itself can actually confuse frequency Depending on you know whatever level you have it. Set at those differences in frequency in hertz. And stuff like that. They there there can be a problem that causes as if you were recording the song if you have too much going through that input and you're trying to just people think okay if i plug it in i'm just gonna get this audio. You're gonna get bad but you're dealing with other signals that are built into these systems to do other things therefore it can cause some type of latency issue. And i've had that many times you know where if i'm according to something a song and have too many tracks going on They're against the what happens is too much being trying to be read. So wait and see begins and there can be too late and there can be all kinds of frequency to interrupt or maybe even contaminate any possible Evidence that you that you have for an investigation. Wow that's no no don't Actually i think that's really that's nice no refreshing to hear somebody that actually knows what they're talking about when it comes to hurt and to volumes in when it comes to How we perceive. I use that word how we perceive how we pick up and respond to activity so you check in at makeup because you here all right freaking talking about that. I'm sure if he was breaking up here. I don't know if you can hear me. That's okay we can hear you Bulk up slap. Mike you can use really almost any mike as far as doing avp's It it really is going to depend on Where you're doing the. Mvp it or not. I know it sounds crazy But if you really really want to get technical about it yet are different mighty could use but if you want. If you want a standard just i want to go into an edp. Boom you know. The small handheld digital records are just fine because those are unit. Directional microphones built in there to pick up frequency from anywhere that that is tricia rounded by. And the best thing about those you know is that They have a setting where if any frequency has been interrupted or if it hears anything it will start recording on its own. So that's like the best part about those. You don't have to spend a million dollars for anything that's You know high tech. Because they're just a small handheld digital recorded you can buy for forty fifty bucks gonna do an an amazing like one hundred percent so when it comes to your higher quality recorders. You're saying you don't really have to go out and get a high high volume high density recorder a standard. Olympus would do the job. Is that what you're saying that absolutely absolutely If you plan on doing. Edp in certain ways or you know in certain rooms I do things a little differently. Because of how i want the audio to be picked up and where certain things are and so on and so forth. But it's not. Like i'm gonna sit there with a full gear microphones set up to do that But i do use certain. Gear and certain microphones To attached about that will allow me the versatility of going in super in depth In busted gate. You know what i'm saying but yeah so many of the item. Yeah yeah and also The the wide range of words taking up because you get a high and at microphone. You know you're more than likely going to pick up more outside noise in your pick up what you wanna pick up. You know what i'm saying. The question out of facebook sure he would like to know. Where is your favorite place you have ever been. And where have you never been but wanna go. That is a loaded question I gotta say back in nine. The one i think ninety one or nineteen ninety. It was before charles and tina madden. They even owned the waverly hills. Sanatorium yeah. I can be owners back then. That's the way that we can't take their social security and he allowed me it will. He asked me if i was to go out there to take a look at the place and You know and i talked about it and so on and so forth. But i ended up going there for four nights and i was there on my own Starting on the very top and working my way down. Because you don't ever in a multilevel place you never want something about mortuary up you wanna get a reverse but It was a it was an amazing experience. just absolutely amazing experience Now i know. I think that you like tours or something. I'm not really sure but That was one of my favorite places. the place one of the places that was supposed to do That i still would like to do In the roosevelt hotel. In hollywood okay. That's yeah that's one of the places. I'd still like to go to And then as well as the The stanley hotel in colorado. Everybody know why. Would you wanna do the stanley hotel. Now wait let me. Let me rephrase that. Why would you wanna do these locations. Well you know. There's a lot that people have said that they've experienced There i've seen different interviews and all this other stuff. But i don't want to go for those reasons. I wanna go for the purpose of trying to understand what i'm dealing with now with what i've heard because as far as what i've heard i know people have said they felt this. That and all this other stuff. I wanna go in a completely different intention. to to kind of observe the entire property And see what kind of personal. I guess reference and a personal experience. I'm gonna get there not because it's just the stanley hotel you know what i'm saying Right that i wanna see for myself. What inspired the flooring. I know there's a lot that that i still don't quite understand in regards to the stanley hotel personally But i you know. I like to start a little deeper in the sense of like the the property sits on See what i get as far as Inflammation who you know. What was there before as far as Not structures but like people and cultures and stuff like that See if that had any type of influence on anything that had gone on before. I can understand your point. There is very important. I think so. I can see that i the reason i ask that is because we. That's the one thing that we've been doing. Terrible community is following each other We've been mostly that an trail. You know what i mean. They find that piece of sugar. Whatever then all the ants all the troopers on that one piece of sure going. Oh we know where the food is so we all make that one lines at one place and just go tucker to pawtucket championship back and forth back and forth. And i don't wanna do that. May twenty one. That's one of the things i wanna break. Just because it's called waverly hills doesn't mean i have to go there you know he's just because it's it's called the winchester house doesn't mean i have to go there but i i'm i'm a. I'm intrigued by the stories the personally. I'd rather research are investigate a location. That's never been researched. Never been investigated and do my year or two year. Long research probability at one location then over several periods of time at several different locations that makes sense. Oh no absolutely because the the thing about that is Like i'm i'm actually working on the documentary Apparently documentary and it was in regards to personal experiences in different places but it changed dramatically because now it turned into a documentary that i'm doing it the home i'm living that i purchased And it's it's the house was built in nineteen seventy It's a very large house. And the home or the community would design by a pianist by the name of liberace now right so i know that his mom and stuff lived in one of the houses on the other side there Has nothing to do with you. Know like the experiences. I've had here which were extremely tremendous I can honestly tell you for a fact that has nothing to do him but But these i'm interested in because whether it's my home whether it's building that nobody has even heard of because who knows what history that hopes. It could be a vision for us to sit there and say wow. This person was actually living there or this person actually died here from this or so and so visited this location and nobody even knows about it. Because i think you're so fix it on all the notorious places across the world that we forget the little places that we never even heard him right now. Did you know that liberace had own the Residents prior to move in was that after the home that i'm in now is different from where he lives. He lives Probably about maybe fifteen minutes. Where i'm as he had his mansion Where the community that. I'm in a very hidden hidden community. It's almost like a little german town. It's a really interesting There are like an english little tutor village but right my understanding There are a lot of the Entertainers entertained with him. we're here. His mom was in this area but his home. That was About fifteen minutes from here. wasn't completely different story. There's i remember the gentleman that property at this point but it's been a museum it's been all kinds of different stuff and his He to own a restaurant lucia and a friend of mine. John actually you still own the restaurant Many years ago and we get an investigation there or the montel williams show back in one thousand nine. But i know who you are now No no charlie. Do not feel disrespected. But i've been trying to figure out how i knew you and okay you know doing my research years. I've crossed your name so many times. But when i was talking to sherry was not connecting. I just was not putting together. You just said the montage on now. I remember where i put you together so i totally understand where you're coming from now. Y that's true. That's a little bit of what we were referred to to the the effect domain delo effect on my thought process. That is so cool. You said you just put them together. The conscious idea of who he is and who i thought was. Oh that's cool. That's super cool No i mean that's really impactful information now the reason i'm also asking his because there's something else i want to know is. Do you ever feel threatened. Have you ever been threatened. Have you ever had negative intent towards you experienced negative or malicious entities are spirits. Have you ever been attacked. I never been attacked personally. But i've I've been in a situation where it was extremely negative It was aggressive It didn't necessarily attack me. But it. I'll put it. This way is definitely let its presence now that it was there and If i have all the footage that i have to digitize because it was all on tape back then because it stuff just absolutely incredible but Yeah gentleman gentlemen reached out my gosh whereas works like nineteen eighty nine. I think but A gentleman had reached out to me and we got my number from a friend and the guy he said. Are you the are you the go. Sky like Yeah that that would be me. Yep and so. He was telling me that guy was he was really upfront. he was He was a contractor and he flipped homes and told me that his house he says. I refused to go back in i. He was using very colorful words but But he's saying he goes. I refuse to go in there until whatever's in there is out he you know it's whatever it is it's a demon you know and and right now the alana people need to understand that yeah poultry guys can sound quite frightening it can. It can be a frightening experience depending on how things are being moved but the word alone does frighten a lot of people but they need to understand. That poltergeist german word for noisy ghost or nosy spirited. Whatever exactly but i thought this guy maybe you know i could have been exaggerated or something so long story short you know. I met up with him in public because he refused to go at the house. So he can give me. The key and house was completely empty. But when i when i showed up it was on a log lose on friday or something but it was about one o'clock in the morning and all the power we should off and walk in homeless. Empty my camera on a tripod and tripod quite wide. So it wouldn't What they call horse legs on you. wouldn't tip over all infrared and stuff like that On a high and an extremely extremely long story short the energy that was there was so negative. I kid you not not. So how this footage i sat. I can see it when i when i was down downstairs. I can see it in the hallway upstairs because the way how open the house was and you can see the shadow literally can see the shadow And so i went up the steps and probably about three steps before i get to the very top planning bears. I sat with my back to it. Started speaking to it and saying you know if you're really gonna make yourself known i'm right here so on and so forth kid you not. It was like somebody picked up the home and dropped it. It tipped over my palm the camera. It's everything okay. That's that's how bad it it was. I know it sounds crazy. I know trust me. I wouldn't even know how to explain this to anybody. If i didn't have the footage But it just got to a point where i was able to. Finally i mean a lot went on that but the this energy kept on going into a certain room can't go i. I called a gentleman up and said hey look at you know. Are you okay with me. Tearing up some some carpet in that room. He says i don't care what you do. Just get that blank outta there okay. Oh yeah yeah he was. He was not having it but you know ended up going into his garage and funny what i could find and ripped up the carpet and there was a little pentagram painted on four under the carpet and we. I ended up getting a hold of a a friend of mine who was a catholic priest And this is years ago. Wouldn't really talked about this whole thing and finally was able to get him to come out. you know. Get permission for him to come out. And he did a a blessing on the on the morning of one day the afternoon of a following day the and late night of a day after and it just changed things one hundred percent you know it was quite quite the experience right. So let me ask you this charlie. Now that i just a quick thing is this is simple. Yes no because cash. Just let me know. We have somebody else facebook. Do you go into abstract or take out the spirit or just a documentation. The situation it's going to depend on the person who's asked me to investigate. Some people don't want to know if there's something and others will ask me to remove it. Okay all right. We're gonna jump back into facebook. Author leases more teams to edp soul cases in regards unsolved. Homicides missing people Also in lacey peterson case. That helped a lot I personally like to see that myself once. I think that'd be great. You know because. I think there's just a lot of urban explorers out there that are just showing this cool things and stuff but that doesn't solve anything i it really you're right. And that's why some of the some of these groups that have the ability to gain that research Information and gathered and put it improperly are still not being taken seriously because look at the entertainment side. Look how we've been seeing. It's a nanno science right now. it's an entertainment science now. They'll so i i agree. I can't the union sylvia brown. Wow colby brown you know i. I met her at the mantell. William show Well she was there actually during our segment and she was on stage with john. The owner carlo cheers. But i was such a contradiction to every little thing that anybody talked about or asked her about like everything every she couldn't hold a straight story for life depended on. Unfortunately i hate saying it like that. But i'm just being one hundred percent because when it comes to stuff like that i think people really need to know the facts when it comes to that This is why personally don't work with like psychics to come with me. Because i'm not saying that. They're all bad but i just don't want things to be approached. A certain way is all you know hand. Yeah she was one of those. Unfortunately high threes Gotcha yeah they think you answer. What am i questions to treats happy new year. Everybody happy new doing series is my timeline is a fellow. Ms warrior. Charlie rivero is truly multi talented faceted. Diamond got called a diamond. Charlie oh well that's just turner said while walk off is the ball. I try after dillinger. Jimmy good evening and happy new year. Brother I think we're we're up on facebook So i could ask in. You know what you asked on oak something else. Can kimberly wants new. Did you ever meet james. Ran randy randy. James randi hoping james rent Yeah you know that was very it was very minimal. It was very minimal. When i got to when i got to meet him In i'm not mistaken i think recently passed but Some was so this is like seven years ago. But i did meet him but it was so brief. I really didn't get to actually sit down and talk with him that much But you know the little bit that. I did speak with him. He seemed extremely knowledgeable. But i i'm not sure i couldn't say because i i wish i would have had a lot more time to To speak with them. You know yeah until they understand. ladies Travelers those like. Why don't we go ahead. And since we're at a good point let's go ahead and charlie if you don't mind let's go ahead and take a break get every time to change. Go use the restroom. Get drink tinebra. Either copy while while coffee my brother. Jimmy's like you know like you're right. I got it right there Pity powder oh. I did say while. I didn't yeah shameless. Plug to say that shameless plug well We're going to do that. We're gonna take a break when we come back. We're gonna jump right back into some more stories more information you travelers get to know charlie a little better As we get these questions and if you wanna call in tonight and ask a question the second half you're more than welcome to open the phone lines you have questions phone line will be do. Your lines are open at one. Three two three eight seven zero three eight seven seven. That's one three two three eight seven zero three eight seven seven push option one on your phone to let us know that you wish to come on air and speak to us or wonderful guest. Charlie riviera tonight. So we're gonna be right back just after this. We're going to give you a little. Sarah bellion tonight The ladies and gents. You don't do join jazz and blah coup advance on day. Nine eleven o'clock on facebook and june to fail. Swear after you'll get come out in almost every sunday night and good evening. Travelers in those light to the second hour of the orion exact with our very special guest. Charlie revere me. I don't know why can't get it out as difficult aveiro. So sorry charlie. There's certain last name simply by tone go right now day. That's why i said that earlier. You try to carry comes. It's again in starting already know. I do have a question. The girls have a lot of questions. Actually we're on a break. So i'm like the girls jump in here brother series you've posted the that People can check you out on facebook at haunted alone or on youtube. I was just wondering if any of the stuff that you've captured so far is on youtube or facebook for them for viewers to go and watch you know on on my youtube. I have all kinds of different stuff but You know 'cause they create crazy little shorts and stuff but you can't see the on their When i was doing blogs sharing a lot of the stuff that i captured on on my thermal imaging and so on and so forth so yeah absolutely right great that's either question And have you had any experiences that sticks out the most. And where were you at experiences. Yeah that's the one. The one that the one that stuck out the most for me was The queen mary Back in ninety four the queen. Mary was definitely something that i wasn't. I wasn't expecting to be honest with you. Was kind of a last minute thing that happened when i was asked to do investigation there but i stayed in the winds sweep and Were the bet is located. it's If you were to walk in the door straight to your right is the bed. But i was laying down and had the light right next to me mounted on the wall and i you know to go too long on this story that it is a very long story. But long story short again The door has a latch on like a a metal wax. So if somebody tries to catch on that but it sounded like somebody was trying to get in with the doorknob and and this was like in the middle of the evening. And i didn't know why i was thinking housekeeping or something because not not a little the night unless requested some but i didn't Perkin say you know. Hey look at them. Good things and then it stopped but Within a couple of minutes and did it again and this time the door open but caught on the latch and as soon as i looked over I did see an apparition go from the door into the room next to me which is what it was like a little living room. And that's when i got. I got up immediately and i walked towards it and soon as i got to the edge of the wall to look over into the other room. It came right in front of me and walk right out. dole hander. Really was that was. It just didn't give me time to grab anything because i was like sitting there And literally sitting. I had a cigarette man. I used to smoke. I quit smoking fifteen years ago. But i used to smoke a cigarette in my hand. And they're like okay really enough to come. Give me a little time here to grab my stuff you know so i. I just wasn't expecting it. Because i my initial investigation was set for This morning so that night was for me. Just check in and get settled in and just kind of relax but no it started pretty. That's pretty cool. Pretty cool yeah. Well videos outstanding Well i appreciate that Do i tend to make Creepy videos or like little miniature one or two minute creepy shorts. It's me trying to express a lot of what i have locked in. My head sometimes are ninety percent of don't make sense. I'm and i'm okay with that. I appreciate very kind of like to constantly be creating and sharing things with people you know now with that being said when you're on an investigation charlie Do you ever use trigger items. And what kind of trigger items you use if you do I think the most the most that i've ever used it spent gonna be my my k. Two meter now. And i just got some thousand rooms but i'm not really big into major major things that i here's the thing. I have an extension cord that has a sensor on. It's a dollar court. And it's going to build sensor and just put a lightbulb on it and that can take it wherever i want and it's just a standard sensor. There's nothing to it and if it something that will turn on I think that's the most extent i've gotten to as far as that goes other than leaving infrared cameras and stuff on but i never thought about that. That's a good one charly Putting the get off light Called her to an extension cord and if your power down there should be no power. Going to bulbs of the bulb kicks on. You know you're getting the residual energy from in that location or you're actually getting some kind of of energy that's really a smart move jolly really smart. It's a question for you. You investigate go through. So what do you do to protect yourself. you have had one negative experience. So how do you protect yourself. Well i definitely say a prayer ourselves I do say a prayer for the property With all respect. And and and the people involved and so on and so forth. So i i do. Try to protect myself with sage bilo santo Which is it's a spanish word for The word of thing right but You know stuff like that. I just i. I like to make sure that things are done. Extremely extremely respectfully And cautiously so that. I just do the best i can i. It's never gonna stop anything fully I had quite a few things happen but nothing to really get me running out of the building. I'm not saying that's not going to happen. Because i do believe eventually. It will But until that time comes. I think i just tried to do the best. I can to just respectful everything and everyone that i'm that i'm but i'm investigating right point. Robert miller said so las sega's when it was closed down and nobody around because of the kobe is doing that is that is a good one. That is a good one. You know i. I actually have a video posted. It's called lost vegas and it was literally when everything shut down and it was really surreal to see this this city Like that it was crazy on my youtube channel. And like i said it's called las vegas and it was just. I tried to put more of a coming up music to it that i created instead of something area. Because i didn't wanna give it that energy. It was really bizarre. It was the craziest thing i've seen. Now we're talking about that now. I'm going to jump into your head if you don't mind cause this is where i'm really good at. I have questions for you. I want to know this charlie. Do you perceive the spirit world or the spirits entities ghost as one type or do you see what we're dealing with a multiple levels. Are they multiple different types. Today affect differently are the all the same from what you've encountered from what you understand There's gonna be for me there. There are many different ones. Every i mean i can go to explain it as apparitions because of those different energies From what is the anthropomorphic apparition. Which is more of a distinguishable form kinda resembled like you know a a human body. You know you can see the humor. I figure You know what's the owen My god i so. I don't know why and i i do everybody man i dropped on okay. The thing is i've been really i. I've actually been really really sick You know not of care and stuff like this. Put it lightly but So for some reason. I feel like i'm actually getting up there in age or something i don't know but we're not some bucks more charlie your library in cognitive apparition which is like a like a concealed or an unrecognized form a zoological apparitions which are animals Deceased pets So you know even like an extra celestial apparition Which would be. I guess for some would understand this as of not squirrelled or like an indifferent type of ram. It mentioned right type thing Bit of course the most popular living apparition you know which somebody can. I call it an improvement of life or an improvement of death. It's going to depend on a look at it but it's really when somebody is near death Like a coma patient for example. And you know those. Those type of energy can fluctuate going in and out which is more useful in the sense of if you want to try to help somebody that dealing with a family member or a loved one that in that position and they wanna know what's going on you know i've done it a couple times and it's very hard to do because it's so personal right and you do see the differences from infrared thermal imaging so there are so many so many you know different ways of looking at it. I think the approach for me i. There are different many different Hikes i should say that. Bravo sir pravo. Excellent answer And the reason i ask that is because there's a lot of new theories a lot of new understanding that's coming out and i think with this year and the next couple of years we're going to get a really good grasp on the direction that we should have been going compared to what we've been doing with saying that and then i'll let the girls give that to facebook and ask the questions. This is going to be My biggest questions you tonight if you will is what has been the difference and the payroll on one supernatural field. From the time that you've got in and started to now what would have been the big ups or downs. We call it as you see it. Okay well as far as the up. A lot of A lot of things that i've seen are those who need help or assistance are not as afraid to reach out Which is good. Because i never want anybody the afraid to speak up. And hey look. I need some type of health blah blah blah. You know or it was very trying because they didn't want to be looked at as crazy A lot of a lot of the content seeing is a lot of urban explorers that are going into these places that don't necessarily have too much knowledge of what's going on and can create an issue for those that want to legitimately investigated location with proper information and and be able to come back with the proper facts and feedback to give Think it has been glorified. It has been turned into a network. I like an entertainment network as opposed to something to take seriously and ruined it for myself and maybe several others that wants to go into locations to investigate and do something like actually in a proper form. You know what i'm saying. I think a lot of it has been it. It really has now. If i may are you referring to some of these locations that some people created actual law contracts with the property owner to deal with only Okay bro and tv shows as well yes because there are tv television networks that have signed or have signed contracts with locations that only certain people can go to the serious and that correct correct and i. It's unfortunate because aside from that that contract also states following their guidelines not the paranormal investigator guidelines. Because a lot of these people have gained ability and knowledge as they were growing with the show so basically what they've learned and i know this because a good friend of mine used to be in a tv show called go slab but right What happens is a lot of these people learned to the networks script So it's basically networks getting as much information as the fan and big. Go off that script now to me. It's such a shame because you that actually was taken off air because you know he reviews to make up evidence right. I wish. I wish i could say the same for a couple of other shows but and because of my personal experience of them coming up to me. As a matter of fact one of them just reached out to me Weeks ago asking. You know if i was willing to have somebody come out of my at my house and do a shooting here for the episode and i and i turn down i i do i i turn them down because i i try not to be rude i say look i really appreciate it. And it's not really my avenue where you guys approach things. I appreciate it. You know It's they're the same people that several years ago in front of a few friends asked me to. Uh if i was willing to make stories for a an episode which now you're blaming yet okay. So what's going on right now. And i'm sorry charlie. I am listening. But out the window. I keep seeing flickers of light and it was like orbs that are flying by the window. So i've been dreaming. Keep an eye on them and watch him but with it is is the reflection of how he's had the wave of light and hit the it looks like little awards and the way. He knew neither brighter or denver. And i'm trying to figure out what it is and then notice the you know the correlation between how he's head moving in the in the light so i wanna don't be good. You said that because we are putting together right we we. We are are offering a select group of people to come here Hopefully in twenty twenty one to the cabinet three sixty charlie. I would love to extend that invitation for you to join us that weekend and actually experience. This location. The cabin at three sixty men historic mechanicsville. Oh yeah i mean that would be absolutely amazing I definitely love to be honored to. I think it would just be a matter of when you're doing it and see if i can get everything worked out. I think that would be fantastic. That'd be great because we We have several of our friends that are high profile then in the paranormal community That we're all gonna be getting together And coming here to the cabin and setting that up for ryan and dennis ryan jones and dennis s lot here at the cabin three sixty so i will get you the dates. I think this is awesome because like you said cat. You're seeing things. I know kim's been feeling things. Now we are in an actress site to Well no no. Because i'm wearing pollutants tonight and on the first hour. Charlie i lose my right. And i was looking past kim's back and i could see manipulation out in the foyer area but while we were on a break i was outside and i saw i saw. I'm not gonna use the word or almost decide. And that's why i was like. Oh you're seeing all right cool. So i just wanna say that's cool and they're flexible and that's what it's about debunking can get that So you know that's awesome and you know if we can make that happen shortly. Hey steam or Carol hernandez charlie has a question Or would be categorized categorized as what. Oh good question well it is a form of manifestation for of energy So it can be one one way of madison manifest manifesting or it could be actually removing itself from from your presence so there's definitely different ways of understanding that one for sure Series shows are now with meeting to their quote unquote evidence. Um an office said she wouldn't have been on a show if she knew. Now i've seen them what she knows now wrestling. I watched the conjuring cows on youtube that they let too many people in there I was wondering if the spirits get tired of being bothered day in and day out You know we've talked about this on the show. But would he feel charlie. Do you feel like the spirits and those getting tired of being put on like a circus. Here's the thing The paranormal does not happen on q. it's something. I've investigated location three times and had absolutely nothing. But i will say again that if you're going into a location to investigate if you're lacking any type of respect That energy can definitely Saturate the location and whatever's there. And i do believe it can affect it in certain ways you know do you. Do you also feel the same that that. There's a possibility that we create our own. You know that can depend honestly You know there's again. There's there's ways i really. I guess how you're gonna investigate location. I've seen people investigated location where it's just a standard home and you have like eighteen. Investigators like what are you doing. Yeah that's mac. Him eating agreed. Yeah contamination being. Yeah i mean for for for me. Three people's pushing it Now on the kim the contamination but just the reason you know each each one. What's the reason and beating their. What's their purpose you know. They say they want that. The gate but a lot of them are curious. You know and so that that will change stuff around saying what the ouija core people are curious the first thing we want to try to see what happens because they know already. Oh hey you know the wiki board known for doing crazy stuff. Well actually the week board is very much like a hammer if you use it properly it's gonna work just fine if you're going to be an idiot about it you're gonna have problems with the hammer. Use the wall with a nail. It'll work just fine. Use it on a window. You're going to have major problems okay. There's nothing wrong with would you board. It's how it's it's been used right. Where i t. Since he's had a chance to be on a couple of shows that that he turned them down because they wanted him the lie and am not willing to compromise on. That's awesome and he should and look at to give them their give the networks or these shows the ratings they want you know out of you. Yeah yeah yeah. It's just that it's it's absolutely disgusting. So i mean kudos for those who actually stand up for the paranormal for themselves and say look at no because that doesn't need to stop it's becoming more and more Of a problem. You know what. I'm saying right absolutely and this is why i say what i said just a minute ago and i know we got a couple of things out of Facebook on kim and cat to jump into. But this is what. I'm seeing right now and this is just my opinion. The paranormal field in general. In general as much like pro wrestling now you see you see all the action you see him being professional athletes if you will but its core and we have so many of these entertainment shows so many of the people wouldn't get out there doing youtube doing movies doing Oh okay Smart tv shows channels. That are out there doing these shows and they know they're being either scripted or they want to be seen So they're going to act a certain way so that persona takes on who they are twenty four seven so they get out there. Start at just like hawk hogan oh dear lord. Don't give me your. But he was time right and tell people sterling started to figure out who he really was kind of like what we got going on. Now there's a lotta hawk hogan's running around but there's not a lot of oh i don't know ric flair's i just or when world. Yeah kurt angle. Well you know when when when people started seeing how the paranormal started turning now all of a sudden everybody's going out and buying gear and call themselves investigators because they figured all they have to do. Is this gadget. Go off or just get voices on every quarter or what are you. And and that's far from they're like nowhere near there's so much that goes to it to understand about being a paranormal investigator. Which i'm sure i'm sure yourself as yourself knows that you can't just jump in. It's not a matter of just jumping in. It's a matter of understanding why you're doing what you're doing. I mean i can go on for days about. But i won't well obviously but i can't really people have turned it into a novelty and that's what's up. That's exactly my point. Thank you rene. Cody says about Orbs with color. 'cause she says blue in green one at the green lady cemetery. How often how often are they. Did they see it. So that's the question. How often did see them. Yeah well i think the question though is is the color of the orb have any significance. Oh okay young. Yeah there's different. There's your we're talking about you. Know if you look at your white. You're white standard orbs and you can see the center of bonin suppler. They you can see like the texture as they would. Call it your archangel you know. Type of or Your pale green. Orbs are more of a like a like for like really mean it. I don't know how to explain. It's a transitional type of energy It's you're starting to kind of your to kind of What do you call it. Your your intermixing like celestial beliefs into the energy of things But there you have or that are multicolored orbs But like the greens whites even the pale. Greens are more into the angelic family. and that can even bleed into maybe some of the blues and stuff but there there are different meanings for sure and it depends how often you are seeing them during an investigation or wherever it is that you're a taking photos Also depends on like how how they're moving you know how quick they're moving How slow moving you know you have pink orbs that that are more of an openness tap or or like a stress related or biz more of the darker colors reds and plums and dark red. You know The high energy orbs or more transparent type of red and stuff like that so it can go many different directions. You know what i'm saying. There's so many different. At least it's not there shouldn't knock me alive but there were other issues in pieces he's gonna save. The dead file actually did wanna help people. Because he's living proof. Oh cool okay. So yeah okay. Yeah i i actually watched several episodes of the dead files. I actually enjoy their their shows. never dealt with any of them. Personally i don't know them personally. I've never met any of them but I do like the way. They approach things if the way they're doing it you know where you know. Don't meet until the end. And i think i think that's awesome But no i think that's great. I mean if that person is actually experienced You know having assistance from them. I think that's awesome. That's awesome actually doing it. You know all thirdly said when it comes to the dead balls. My friend is friends. Lucy producer and they seem to do things different than most. Wow okay okay. Well that's great as long as hey as long as it's legitimate as long as it's honest and pure right on where or how i don't care. How many scripts you have. Because i get it for the writers for the editors for the show and stuff. I get that they have to have something to work off up to when you're at any Trust me very well But it's honest like they're going to say hey look at you know when you do an eating p can you please make it last this long. Well sorry i can extend underneath p shirt but like if they're going try to tell you what to find and stuff like that now but a very blank slate hypo Type of script in their legit and they're being clean about it right on. I think that's great great jerry. That's why so many investigators who are truly invested in recent research or helping other you not have shows But stay off the radar and don't necessarily want the publicity but rather to simply do the proper research. I do a thorough when you follow up with the proper investigation and determine what is really going on in the location and what should be focused on agree but the people that are actually doing the work in dishes need to be heard they should be seen. And that's why charlie. Oh come on joe. Well here's the thing i mean. They should be saying they should be heard. The reason. Why a lot of those types and like myself are not on radar is because these networks the tv shows knees channels or whatever they want. They want content. They want rate. They want stuff that they can constantly show in the real world the paranormal. Since it's not you know you can sit there. And you don't not on demand their network is not gonna wait to see when you're investigations have is going to have some kind of response right so this is this is why they started doing what they do. Because you know. It's further their their show for their tv ratings for all of that that it is. It's sad you know. I find it. Amazing how person to be possessed every single every single. Tv show deem funny. Oh if you're here touch me like what is proof of that. How do you prove that you were touched medicine. That's ridiculous but on the flip side are if people. I'm sorry go ahead. No go ahead. Go ahead interrupt you. I'm sorry. I was gonna say i respect the the people that are coming out now That are doing community Research projects such as a house on the hill They've got a good camera system running twenty four seven so you go in there and you can watch what's going on. I know the horse fly chronicles To shameless plug out there. to them But they had a moment where you know they had cameras going so you can jump on and go okay. Let me see what i can see. But they're the created a community research laboratory through video. Yes but we're able to see it. I like to see more of that You i understand people. What do these these youtube in and facebook lives. But don't if you're gonna do it do it right you know. Put it on you do it all the way through you. Don't do editing. you don't do anything and you keep it running from the tommy start the time you in. So i a debts. Get that ideas coming more and more But more people while they do that they wanna be seen to. They want their to be 'cause everybody wants a little bit of that. That fame if you will now but i see how as society is actually starting to get back to the premise of why we're doing this. I think more community events such as concerts lives etc are coming about and i think that's really good for the community itself because showing that the so-called television shows and other programs really are not the meat of what we're doing not the paranormal shows and the people that are trying to profit from it. That are the problem. It's also these businesses that put out the you know investigations. Because they're now haunted because they know that they're going to bring in business and they're using to bring in business instead of actually having any kind of you know a phenomenon in their location. They're just using it as for money. Yup yup yup very true and it's very sad cut like i said before the day was. It was much different because they you know they were more curious and they really wanted to know it was. It was a fascination to understand. Oh my god this place gonna actually behind us now. It's just a a marketing strategy for them. A marketing tool yes. No you know. And i'm going to give props to a location here in in the richmond area. That is highly active. But you don't hear about. Its crab louise In the chesterfield area. It's highly active Your day that you know they've got certifications etc etc that they're hunting but you don't hear about this place a lot of people don't go to and go. Oh we're going here comes honey. 'cause the food's good going 'cause the food's good but they don't put out or promote that they have activity only if you're really into the payroll community which you know that so that's props to shameless flow crab louise for doing i think in my parental. I wanted to research crab louise. And they're like a okay well rob robert milliken would like to know charlie Do you think spirits only speak and understand their native language when they were alive or can they understand other languages now that they are steered That's a good question. I think the there can be forms of languages that could be understood at that point Everything becomes so universal when somebody's trying to reach reach out in the paranormal using energy. And stuff like that. I think there are ways for for those different languages and different type of culture to actually communicate. So yeah i personally do believe that i have had only one case that i can honestly remember that It was a spanish now. I just spanish because my family was from argentina. I'm all better now but you know i do speak fluently but reason why i do say that it can take on and understand different types of languages often from different cultures and such is because a lot of the stuff was talking and asking was an english and i was still get responses so i do believe that in in many cases. Yes they can. I do think also that In other cases A lot of different rituals and a lot of different types of cultures and Especially when you're talking about the whole indian tribes and stuff. I think those if you actually had a native way to communicate with that it would be stronger for sure you know using that's native type of language or whatever but i still think they can be Understood with the within the other communication author leases they. She is a question. Why do move pastors they all activities from demon and a preschool. Say it's stuck spirit or might be a spirit that Dies from an unexpected death. So they don't know they're dead well. Unfortunately it's because they they're going by what. Their script is as far as their religion. The church that were to get yeah. They're they're they're going to go with what's the safest for them to not contaminate their i guess what you call their home Right or there but you know. Unfortunately they don't have the knowledge of the whole thing with demons and stuff like that because that's a strong. That's a strong word. That's a strong word to be using When it comes to the paranormal. Like i i i can honestly tell you that. I've spoken with people that have had frightening frightening. Yeah drink a demand. I may have heard the and i'll tell them. Don't say the name out loud. You never do that right if you you don't if that's the case if you've had a dream or even if you're away you're eating dinner for some reason something's coming in your head and you're hearing a name of a demon you do not speak of it and you not say it out loud if you knew how a church or some type of sanctuary that you that you praise You would go to that location and speak to you. Know somebody about what's going on and they would actually get the name out of you without having to say it and that would be the proper way of being able to sell cleanse. Emma situation like that if you're not part of a church if you're not part of any type of sanctuary like that You can actually sit there and meditate. You're able to remove that by simply stating you're not going to be allowing that type of energy around you and you can have black salt and put black salt in every corner of each of the room each corner of the room sitting in what you're doing that so that allows it to keep yourself Protected but also removing type of negative energy rock on. Thank you for this. That's the things i'm talking about. That's what i was looking for. I want to the meat of what we're doing and that that's exactly what the show's about and that's what i wanted to hear right there with him adds. I'm glad i'm sure so much with you guys because to me. It's really important for people to have as much knowledge as possible when it comes to the paranormal. And that's what this shows about. It's it's giving a voice to the the general person But giving knowledge we want to teach we want to maybe reteach with people have learned. We want to give a better understanding. And how we do that as the people that come on. You know there's like. I said before that need to be heard that have been in the us That are not heard a lot of but they're the people that really have the knowledge. And i'm gonna tap that knowledge especially in twenty twenty one or more people in we want to make sure people are educated in the parkway. If they're going to do it now. I want to jump back to one thing real quick. I'm a and say this. We all started as ghost hunters with. Let's face fat we all day. But it's where we chose what hap- you chose to move in what direction yet. It'd be Parapsychologists yet it'd be a researcher attack a spiritualist. We all started at one place. So people understand. I'm not dogging ghost hunters okay. You're their starters. We were there where you are if you want to know more. There's people out here that really did teach you show you give you knowledge give you wisdom and and this is what the show's about as you learn more you should be evolving and if you're not then you're doing it wrong there's yeah there's there's many ways to definitely look at it that way because i think there's a lot that's being missed and i think if if there was being done on Properly being done More aggressively in a proper way. You would be involving just like you were saying and i think you'd be grabbing a lot. More attention to those. That legitimately need help. The opening is left and right because they would see a complete difference from reality versus television. Right difference one hundred. I'm gonna. I'm gonna follow up on you with that and say this and we'll see people's remarks Several months ago somebody made a comment in one of the groups and i made the comment. We don't know we don't know what affects the other side. We don't know what is on the other side. We don't know if it's real we don't know for creating we just don't know as of yet and a girl responded with this. Well i thought. And she was being a bit sarcastic. But that's okay. But that's why seeing her comment was will. I thought we already figured it out. But we already knew that Electromagnetic forces all come from spirit activity. i thought and i listened to what she had to say to my and this is what you were taught or when you choose to listen to because it's so why charlie there's so much out there you know the spirits a the interactive different ways. They're affected different ways and affect us. That's very true In the in the sense of what she had mentioned what you just said. I do agree hundred percent. What you just said It's also that also a form of The paranormal that she accepted. Okay when one script that something when you except one thing. That's what you're stuck on. You're gonna kind of lock yourself from evolving okay. I do what i do. Because i've done it for so long. I enjoy doing it. i love it over. Science studied parapsychology for many years. Blah blah blah. I can go on for days right. Doesn't make mean anybody any better than anybody else okay. I'm not the best of anything. My knowledge is two different. My approach is just but it's important that what knowledge i do have is correct because that's wanting to be shared it's important for it to be shared properly because if not those like that young lady are going to limit themselves and just say okay. I except for that. And that's it done. I'm over okay. No it doesn't it doesn't end there. We don't know where downs that's the thing. Nobody knows. we We may be well. You know we might be all the way back at the beginning. That's the backdrop that we are at the beginning. We have no more if there's now like agriculture hours ago before we really. We are still at the beginning. There's there's no way to be a an expert in this field because she's you were a way to do that yet. There's not enough information out there to be an expert. And i'm an expert. There are ways you can be. It's going to depend on your approach on an investigation. That's it That's gonna differentiate being an expert or being. A novelist is to to to an investigation. Other than that. The only thing that really has changed besides our knowledge is equipment. And what we do with it. So i think if everybody understood the first step to the to the latter. What's out detail. It would help us understand why we're going to step onto the next one the next step into the next step into the next steps without wondering unfortunately a lot of people kind of jump does not because they're just wanting to get to the nitty gritty of things. But because i don't think a lot of people have the intention to have the understanding behind everything that they think they already know. Is that make sense. Bravo while you're not looking for answers if you think he already know. Yeah exactly and you're only limited to what you except to bring in exactly exactly. I mean you have to be open to Here others speak here others experience you have to be open to And to understand what people have been through what you've been through so on and so forth. I mean it doesn't go away it's gonna go actions. You know person. Just be able to say okay. I i'm going to be open to got not just say okay. This is what i was told so now. I know it not going to happen. Not going to happen charlie. My brother we are down to almost six years left the show. Oh oh. I love wows when they talk about the wheel. You keep on burning that platinum yet if you would. Let's let our listeners are those alike No where they can find you where they look at your research at. They have questions for you. How can they reach you. Yeah absolutely There's two ways you can go to a haunted and alone dot com You can get a hold me that way and You know there's links on there you can click on the youtube link and it'll take you to my channel Somebody just wanted to go straight to youtube you type in my name. Charlie rivero haunted and alone and you'll be able to start finding some stuff and you know. Look at some of my You'll be able to watch a lot of my blogs and a lot of the different stuff that i've done and so on and so forth but if you wanna just make it easier just go to haunted him alone dot com. You'll see link there to to my facebook and the link there to u2 And you'll be able to to really touch from all that stuff excellent. Hey we have a couple of things. Face but Author leases being raised protestant. I didn't believe in. Edp's until we were on the ground a ground search for a missing woman and searcher asked ghost box where and spirit said Bones up over the hill and if you search and not kidding there they There with the bones and since then send a believer okay living That's pretty cool. I assure you sherry on the know if you've noticed more activity during this extreme silence with covid quarantine going on you know. I think there's a lot of things That we've noticed because of the silence of quarantine i you know. I think what we've noticed is stuff that's already been there. We just noticed differently because we're walked in the door right so we experienced a little more Unfortunately i do know that you know there. There have been a lot of suicides and deaths and stuff like that because of the quarantine and it's really sad so i'm sure in many ways there are stronger activities that have really surface because of it. Yeah i wouldn't imagine all negative i The negative negatively being caused by these elections and stuff are helping either. Yeah yeah it is. it's all over. You know there's so much there's so much negativity out there. That i think people forget how to communicate with one another and that alone just kills everything absolutely charlie. If you leave a footprint on life what do you want to be left behind. Be real big. No the the real the real as look at you know. Just just be real and be giving because there are so many people out there that really need it and it doesn't hurt to lend a hand. I could not have said a better myself on welfare. Well said charlie has been an absolute pleasure. Sir thank you so much for being on tonight. Yeah thank you. Thank you guys. A pleasure was all mine out up. Honored to be on here You know thing share you so much for for her friendship and turning the onto you guys. It's amazing though. I can't thank you guys for on here. Absolutely hopefully you accept or invite to return as well yes absolutely absolutely just let me know You have my information. Let me know and we'll definitely go from there. I think that'd be fantastic. I'd take the gets them. Spooked time in and talk about some stuff and and tell them to make sure to check out. Charlie's material and check him out get to know him a little better And understand where he's coming from and travelers those alike dates or to extend your handout. Help someone out in washington to serve. Bring in like the more were

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Barbara Corcoran

Life is Short with Justin Long

1:47:53 hr | 1 year ago

Barbara Corcoran

"When I was young I liked having little businesses. I could sell lemonade at the end of their street. One so tadpoles pond. Local pond captured. Some Tadpoles I didn't sell any of them but I they were for sale and then I let them go one summer at summer camp at Boy Scout Camp that Christian. I both attended. Don't bring me it's weird And you were a customer of mine when I Sold Candy. I think I basically broke. Even the the finding is I would make money and then I would go spend that money on candy from the Light Trading Post at the camp. You are also very generous. I remember you give a lot of away I so I think they'll very powerful. It's not that you had customers as much as you had users you know. I'm when you'RE A kid. Sugar is like your I would have been a terrible drug dealer these drug dealers and they're like wow the first one's free they get you hooked. Also I'm not convinced that what you were doing was above board. Oh no I'm sh- well I wonder what the statute probably pay down. Hopefully for your for your funding scandal era. No care could be a dream. Life could be injury. Do you're listening to life is short. I am your host Justin. Long Sweden do shampoo with me as always is my candy. Loving brother does that. What does that sound gross now? Candy Levin Yeah. It sounds like okay. Let's just say that about an adult. It sounds a little juvenile. It doesn't sound grocer than than than I do love candy. That's why there's something candy now is like I don't know why you think it's naughty naughty in in terms of being bad for you if that's what you mean by it's too cutesy. Yeah naughtiest cutesy. Yeah that's why I don't use the word naughty very often. That's why conflating seriously. I say it. Maybe I'm being naughty. Yes jokingly yeah who? That's that's funny there too. You know the expression. They're two types of people in this world but there are those that say used it. Were Naughty seriously our mom. She was not being naughty. Yeah don't be naughty or she would say as she says playfully now. Fine when we were kids we didn't get a lot of sweets and I think that's why I felt so I felt so dangerous when I went and bought those I must have been twelve or thirteen and I bought those boxes of Candy Wholesale. I thought it was so I was like just to the age where I I was I. It hasn't been very long. I was able to buy my own candy which was remember that when you're like so excited it was so it was such a thrill in soda. Remember those exciting to be able to go to a soda machine. Oh my God I was able to acquire money. I just wanted to do it anyway. I could So I had these little businesses that you were a little entrepreneur but I wonder why that didn't stick because now it's terrible with money now. I don't have to tell me. Well I'm telling me audience you're right that there was no no remnants of like that entrepreneurial spirit that. I had as a kid I'd give it like a running running running started to it entrepreneurial. That's a tough word entrepot. By contrast our guest today is an excellent adult entrepreneur. Yes that's right and I am. I was so curious. How what her roots were in terms of. You know how she came to be interested in that. Are you interested in or you just like money me no one? How does one become an entrepreneur? I mean what's the route that they I think it depends. That's true I think business. Well let's see how the interview goes according to our guest today Barbara Corcoran and we. I didn't say you were setting me up. She says she's interested in the reason she loves. Business is the people and making and developing relationships with people so I think I'm sure some people go into business for just for the money so they can drive fancy cars but So I think it all depends mark Cuban With whom she does the show shark tank. He seems like He. He's likes getting things and and he's like a big Kid. He strikes me as He also seems like he really enjoys being known. Yeah but nothing wrong with that. Yeah I like him he too. I think he's given Barbara Corcoran. Somebody that I didn't really know because I'm not Have you ever seen short type seen it but I? I didn't know the other sharks by name. I think. Mark Cuban's the only the wonderful. I know just because it's funny because I I've seen a bunch of says I like that show. I like it too. I just don't know it well enough to know her to have known her. Or whatever Do I will get into it but if maybe you do know Barbara and maybe you don't but you're about to know her a little bit better so you did this interview for some context a couple of weeks ago and now we are in the throes of Corentin were in Justin. I are quarantining. Gather and Connecticut and so this interview is done a couple weeks ago before this happened. So that's the reason that you guys don't mention it as it was before so last week we did Barbara before bill nye around the same time and but of course bill and I talked about a lot more because Barbara is not a science gal so for the next few weeks the interviews will be from Before now a week or two ago before the crisis but crazy. It's all of these intros will be smack DAB crisis which is from our quarantine from our course and we're hoping everyone is doing okay and getting by in the crazy crazy time we're also hoping to check in with some friends So we might do a special episode where we just do that. We just Christian. I'd call some friends in check in and not just talk to each other. It's it depends how we're feeling we're taking it day by day. Yeah Yes oh please as always feel free to us and tell us how you're making the most of your quarantine life short at one dot com But for now let's listen to some pre corentin chat with our guest today very saucy. I would say and very fun Entrepreneurial yes obviously entrepreneurial entrepreneurial entrepreneurial take three Barbara corcoran coming up right after this life. The mind body APP connects the world to wellness. Wherever you are on your path to wellness mind body is right there with you. Where are you on your path? Twelve Justin I'm on it. I drink Greenie. Every morning I'm eating chocolate covered. Peanuts does not count as I need on the path that sets me back a couple of steps on the path but I think this mind body at might help me get further along the path. My first question is how many hundreds of thousands of people use it at least ten hundred thousand? Whoa millions used to find local fitness classes at the best studios and gyms no matter where they are. They're great deals and discounts on drop in classes packages. Boutique Fitness Studios Salons spas learn. How much is a membership? How much did you pay? What the only commitment is to yourself. This is a great thing for the New Year. Though you know everyone wants to get in shape in the new year start eating better I do. This seems like a very convenient way. Say you don't need to get in better shape. Well I didn't have to say one way or the other. I don't want to comment on your. I know but it's very personal. Yes your shape and your path to wellness is very personal to you as as mine is to me the mind body APP. Lets you define? What wellness means to you so fitness SPA services acupuncture which. I've always wanted me to go ahead and download the mind body APP today at mind. Body Dot I O. Slash pod. That's mind body DOT CO slash pod. Burmese again. I just did a scroll through your twitter. You have such pearls of wisdom that you have to follow you know on twitter because each one of them was so inspiring. I like this one. We recording that by the way Probably not we are. Okay now we should really You said that like this is not going to be part of the show. Certainly this is not entertaining enough to record but said one. What's all the fuss about? You can find love at any age. I got married in my late thirties and still together. Thirty plus years late later age is just a number Hashtag the bachelorette which I fans of the show will know that I love the bachelor. Do you watch that now? I just knew it was a good tag to put on their Self-serving what is that? What love but you knew that there is an issue that had it had been talked about that the bachelorette. The next bachelor is going to be a slightly older than the other ones. Yes I had heard that. That's all I knew about the bachelor. You'd Swear Fan. I would have thought living my tweet. I wish I had an answer to the next hour of the show. No no it'll be funny. Actually that you did that you did that. Knowing that it might it would attract more attention. Probably how likely that's smart. Got Your attention. It's sure did I related to it. I wanted to talk to you about it and I meant to watch it but I haven't well. I'm curious what you think of it. It's really fascinating. Do you watch your own show now. I never do really. Why is there to sell critical about about everything? Only I should have said that. Better all look at that dress a little short Monday morning. Quarterbacking you Betcha in a negative way is terrible. Always Self No. You're tough on yourself. Well you know. I learned that from his racial Raoult's on her show notice natural she was Dr Guests. The camera crews to issues in our kitchen and she's very easy very easy and consistently yet. I said to her. How do you do that? You have no no nervousness at all. She said I never watch myself. And I said that's a great idea. Stop Watch and missile. That was like eight nine years ago and it helps. I'll tremendous because you more free to be yourself. United yourself as you streak. Well that's interesting one of the things I love about the bachelor and you wouldn't know this when you become a big fan you'll know this They are so Hyper aware of themselves. You like I do because as naturally you can then study how people behave in this difference social context. Which is they're They're performing. I mean they're all which we all do. We all improvised to a certain extent but They're hyper aware of themselves. And John and Janice what does that mean in other words acting and they know they're acting so they are acting more themselves or performing or hyper aware meaning. Who's supposed to be naturally who they want people to do what they want the narrative that they want to tell about themselves they're writing and performing it's really and and oftentimes poorly you know. L. Poorly because it makes them more human. I think sorry makes you buy in a little more. It would make me by well. It reveals truths about them to that. I think is really. That's the stuff that I think is really interesting. What what that says a lot about a person what they want people to think of them dressed in a gallon get on that shot. Ida but to see I was just talking to Alaska to see behind. The curtain would be a little unsettling chorus fishy. Do it anyway curious and I am a well this one of the reasons. I love doing the show. I just I am curious. What what was the impetus for doing your show. You know what happened? You mean the podcast. Aided always doing business advice constantly and as Hannah hearing the same questions again again again I realized there are seven or eight themes that people want to know like how to start the business. Our get my confidence. Is this thing going to work in the funding In a tough patch how do I get through? I have a problem with employees. Should have a partner. This only certain number of categories advice so I kept getting the same thing same thing. Same thing I guess. A lot of people really have these questions. And that's what I thought. Hey let me do a podcast and the same questions. And that's all it was. I just answering one question after another after another letters from callers from callers and then we got a lot of colors lots of emails lots of texts most of them honestly came in that way and then once I got. Add BARGO. Everybody calls him. I'd probably get two hundred calls a day somehow. Oh great you know some kind of odd people which stand out if I was going through. I've gone through a bunch this morning. What'S THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS We got a call from a lady. she was v sound very reasonable very sincere and she said How did she put it was away? She said that's always Oh. She said she said I really really need to leave my husband. I've been married and got off a number of years and she's I really really need to leave him. Can you tell me specifically what my steps are? I need to leave him on Monday on Monday. That's it that's the oddity of my day. What's happening on Monday or Tuesday? Yeah it had to be Monday bachelor on Monday night. To be free of him to maybe maybe friends people ask all kinds of things. People disclose things on a phone line. That always surprises me. I'm not having sex with my husband last night. We were in bed and what I don't want to hear but isn't that the good stuff I mean. Don't you want to hear that seem to me to be very open to that kind of stuff? You made some comments when you came into the ball I would say body. Maybe the body in this world is a little dangerous. Yes I know why God kidding. I'm kidding dangerous body. No it is dangerous. I know but is that so or do you often find yourself editing when you know when you're on the air. Obviously you ever get paranoid that you've said something often saying something loops hoops. Yeah entrusting somebody's GonNa edit out unites. That's the most thing about the podcast. It's nice they protect your air on a podcast even on shark tank. I mean I've owned by Disney. They want this should be X. Rated X. Rated Shark Tank Star. I keep the calendar is ours. Isn't that always so satisfying when the camera guys laugh? You know you're engaged. That's guys won't show like it very much. Yeah I went on dancing with the stars and I was a number one loser. I one rejected you phrase it number one loser. Excessive number three right number one at something All my bosses. A Shark tank sat me down the all individually call and gave me election Lau remember. Nobody's got you back. Nobody's editing out you lewd comments remember. You GotTa Watch what you say. They were so worried. They were delighted when I got eliminated. Needles Leah Thompson was on the show and she said she said that when she got eliminated was very difficult. It was a very pressure filled environment. That dancing with the stars is a pressure cooker which she said hardest thing. I've ever done really so was it is somewhat of a relief to to. I know it was not a relief because the night before we performed you know it was the first competition. They sent all of us a note in our trailers in our in our of our hotels where we were staying. We'll got it a lovely note saying pack. Your Pajamas this the truth a toothbrush a carry bag because of your rejected. We're going to put you on a plane to New York to go on good morning. America a hose. It's the today show. I think Good Morning America Gordon Anyway. I read that note Tore it up putting the garbage. Everybody came with a little night. Begs me so I was stunned? When thank you very much how you were very confident? I flew in New York and my gown because they meant it. They put you the metal metal staircase. They rush she down the middle staircase behind. Closed door. That you've been passing all week in practice but you never noticed before they get your plan. You go in the bowels of lax onto the runway at home on the runway. Oh is that what she blew an empty plane? And then after you're in your seat locked in and the head of security guard with your big ass. I'm not making this up. And then the rest of the plane comes and boards get to New York. Same routine security guard now. I had a woman escorted me into it. It was terribly. Forgive my ingram prisoner. What is the point of the security guard? They don't want you to escape this. I didn't realize then what it was but would I have escaped if I could have after that heavy rejection my bold now flying to New York probably how you had no choice because to the woman? Who's with me? In the armored car and I'm telling dark windows dehumanizing about that demoralizing moralizing and I probably shouldn't be saying this maybe it will be upset but I don't think so this routinely anyway on the way to New York as A. Hey we're passing by my apartment. Can I just stop An- and I want to get to where someone who I look like a business lady get my ego back here. They said No. We're under strict direction. Not to stop anywhere in. We went to Good Morning America and what he think I forget who interviewed me? I can now no no. I guess I blocked it out but anyway whoever's interview first question I do remember the question they said so what is still so. How did they put it? They said so. What is it like to be a loser? Oh It's great I love it. It was so much fun and at that point my smiley face. You're probably that's I mean I would be sort of. I don't know pissed when he really likes public embarrassment. I've had them my whole life. And I thought they were GONNA pick up somewhere in that's good adage should be there. I was feeling like I was experiencing the very first time. Might Eagle crashed. That's also something that you were working hard on. I know dancing no hard. Yeah right but I was never in better shape almost wrinkles. I have an older woman wearing my legs at wrinklies shit was all gone. My legs were own a while. They went away two months later on exciting. Keep it up. We'll what what was the thing if you could tell people like the dancing with the stars routine what Iraq and I mean you I mean I. It was probably one of the best experiences. I'm telling you what was shocking about. Let me give it some credence. I actually learned how to dance. Even though they didn't agree with me. I know how to do all those dances now. Eskom you get a really handsome hunk of Guy. Dance with you. Five hours a day the wrinkles you get to get your hands on a honky. Ask for the sounds pretty good except for the embarrassment part of and you and you see flight though a free site. Yeah it's it's a blast but it's a lot of hard work. Yeah Yeah that's what I've heard. Well why are we spent way too much time on that? No I don't think so. I think that's a very relatable story. All of our listeners who have been on dancing with the stars themselves This is now all those people. That's how I say is the idea of a Publican barris moment that everybody's watching your loser but you know what what really realizes afterwards when I talked to friend thing which they thought it was amazing for trying to try Mason. That's all there. Read on saluting cares you lose just admire you for getting out and trying absolute and that's the way you was the way the grace with which you lose humor I think. Yeah that's a good lesson all the way home as the only way you can do it kidding. Well you strike me as somebody who has had a lot of confidence throughout their lives. Is that true or am I just reading Choo Anymore? No kidding right. I'm just now meeting you at this point in your life. You know what I think. I think I think this goes for everyone. I've met who appear confidence. Seem successful. Seem like they have their act together. I think They usually prepare better than the next guy. they've taken more swings of the bat so to speak than the next guy They try harder. They're always showing up. And you get you simply get better at it and so people start falling for you start making things look easy but no I think the most confidence seeming people are usually the people who are most insecure at the start gate. That's what I saw. That's interesting but then what gave you the the will I guess to continue to? Because you seem like an tweets are to be believed you fight for the yourself when you fight for your position at the table You had another tweet and I'm going to read because it's very inspirational. Every successful person I know was willing to take a leap of faith in themselves. agree with myself was only a day ago. You said I hope you still agree with yourself But but what what? What was it about your upbringing? Where where do you think you forge that that that I know where I forged right Through duress and I think most people forge straight through duress? You really learn a lot of stuff but you don't learn the real important stuff unless you've blown it. I think that stays with you. You know you're saying I'm not going to do that again or I learned this from that. You know even the worst things that happened to you when you get past some everything you look back you realize. I'm thank God. Thank God that happened. This other thing happened because of it yet but in the heat of it or in the pain of it. You don't see that it's impossible. It's too much to ask for yourself So for me what. I what I have is wisdom of years looking back. That helps a lot too to get calmed down about stuff right but even when I was younger I realized where my strength came from my strength came from Just being a lousy student at school being laughed at because it was so painful to be. Oh poor her for her not trying to do a poor her. Whatever your everybody's got this shit girlhood name? One person who doesn't that was mine and so for me It was such a long a long walk through the school system and a painful one that I became an over preparer. I over prepare furry I worked worked circles around the next guy because I don't want to be embarrassed. I don't want to be losing my whole life. Yeah Yeah but every time. We went into job which I've had jobs since I was eleven. People love me. It wasn't based on math skills. Running out loud funny you you think about some of that stuff that you struggled with it. I did as well math skills terrible. I. I don't remember I don't remember what it even what it was. I don't remember the billing raw what I was supposed to know that I didn't know that it was a source of shame. You remember how you felt about absolutely important. I remember now the equation. You missed but that you're a loser and then what it does is it makes you feel like I gotta be good at something and it gives you that power to go work. Extra hard similar. I mean like you knew that quote about relationships. I think you know the wisdom of age of time I think perhaps your last relationship was so successful because and I think this about a lot of quote unquote unsuccessful relationships. I've been in you know where you lament the time you spent on them. And and in retrospect you think well I I know now what not to do or what sometimes dealy yeah I married my first husband twice. Come wow really not literally my first husband I married another guy looks so different in different is all. This guy here is opposite to my first husband. That didn't work out only to find out a few years later. They were the same guy interesting because it was once you get to really know you tend to especially in deep relationships you tend to repeat patterns your bed but then but then that is a what. That's there is a success in that even having done it twice. Yes that the third time seems like it was a charm. Well you know it happened. Well actually. It's been two times three boyfriends to husbands but The charm of the third time as you put it which is my second husband. Bill who had married so many years is I realized going in is probably not anybody better out there when things get tough. I used to look around. I swear to God in the early years with bill when I go God. Is this worth the work? Is this worth the work? I would look around and all the husbands. My friends are married to say. Would I rather have him God? No that's right that get sick. You Sixty with you. You original guy. This weirdly romantic. It's hard to put on a hallmark card but could be worse. Yeah it could be some happy anniversary dear but marriage is work anyways as successful marriage. They'll tell you they were really wanted now. Would you had mentioned. I think maybe before we started rolling that they're eight hundred. You said there were like categorize people into a seventy different groups. You're not going to be for the group's types that he destroyed me a scrappy. Which I agree last. Yeah came up because when we walk into your shop here I'm you felt like you had met my colleague before I comment. No she's just a type you've met. That's what happens is only eight or nine two types in light years a scrappy type or you're the type that the girls look at raise the Brown all. He's Hot Oh wow and he's got he's a lot of fun and then when they get into the relationship they realize you very complicated. Oh right that's the scrappy type. Yeah Oh this is. This crappy wasn't as good as I thought. It was real nice very good sweater because you track. Pd should be flattered attract people but you complicated scrappy Gaza complicated. That's what makes them intriguing. Interesting because he kinda get hoped in on them. 'cause ooh aren't they interesting? I'm I'm still kind of flattered. I don't know if I'm that complicated I maybe or that flatter yeah scrappy. So how would you be? What type are you I'm too much a straight shooter broker. I'm the tight the just a lot of people love me right away. They fall in love with me. God She really tells it like. It is very accessible. I'm very accessible. Yeah you come on in. I'm I put my carpet. Add stay at my house. Come over tonight have a bed. No I'm very easy going and then goes down the road a bit goes down the road. Like how long are you going to be staying now and then you realize if I decide I don't like you you'll never see me again Doors quickly as I open it. So Lynch downside the openness you see and is that to protect yourself probably because when you have an open door to every kind of Tom Dick and Harry in the world and you're open and you could see their perspective and walk in their shoes and have great empathy for people that comes with openness of people take advantage of that when you finally you're the latest person to realize that guy's a creep when you slam the door you slam it harder than anybody else's legs dilemmas. That hurts by the way. Where's your brother? Though you with your brother I do Barbara who has siblings. And he is better looking I do he does the we do the intro where we talk about the guests and are only does and then we do the altro. Is We re unpack the conversation and he used to it after the fact yes. What about your silly? You're the second of ten. Yes secondly jam good position in Middle Child. Yeah well how? What were the advantages and disadvantages? Well you know. I had one older sister denise and she was constantly in trouble she was around. Rouser had a hard time with authority constantly. Thrown out of school counseling trouble to lease and then below me ahead my oldest brother. Who's a year younger at the oldest boy in the family and he was constantly punish rabble rouser troublemakers in the family? So I had my flanks covered all those Kinda just walked through the middle and I was fine. You were you a bit of a peacemaker. Were you trying to really? I was just I would hate to say good politician but I smell trouble in my dad with my mom here when it was going to be trouble and I would know how to hide. Oh interesting low profile. You know what I mean. I was a lovely child. Nice and quiet. How does that benefit you? Now would you say I mean? Do you see versions of that behavior. Yes I kind of think myself in any relationship as a middle man. I guess that's why I became a real estate broker. Maybe I was always a little person making the deal right but I am a good middle person to well. Maybe a piece of cake would be but I'm good at building bridges between negotiator. Your little. You're making something happen because I know how to get through a rough patch and the rough patches often between two people. Oh you find. That happens quite often on shark tank on the show itself No on the shark tank show. We don't WanNa have peacemakers our job sharks unless my real personality I think if I was peacemaking between sharks Probably wouldn't be on the show early. Toughen up That's right I in with family that size. I imagine. There's often discord. There's often you know there's gotTa be drama happening. I I only have three in my family but my mama ten always said when she had three she was out of control made no difference. You really believe that. Okay but I can tell you I remember having three niece Barbara Eddie. That was it. It seemed like a little family and it seemed calm. Once we had ten there was nothing com where year and a half apart just seem like all it was like chaos all the gods but I really believe in hindsight. My mother was made for having ten kids. So as my dad they want to twelve. They never quite made expanding on a twelve year. Nice even does and all my devout Catholic so use the pope's rhythm method so that's why we're all year and a half apart all accurately. They shot so to speak my God. What is the rhythm method other? The rhythm method was it gives them wife a break for year after she gives birth. Oh my God. I'm sorry not a year six months. Yeah I was I. My math is not bad. Time yourself so. The wife does not get pregnant for six months. He's getting bread. They do that religiously yes. I'm bang. Bang Bang all these kids. Oh did he. The diddy part is the resting part. Yeah about a big family on a serious note You have the chaos You certainly don't have enough to go around. That makes it tight but it makes you want more leaves you wanting things wrap your your and more importantly learn how to get along with people. Probably every single person in my family is great and people skills. Get along with anybody. A were all leaders. There's not a single person my family who doesn't lead whatever they do for a living. That's odd and eight hundred. Ten of US are entrepreneurs so we're all independent minded even think we'd be codependent. Such close quarters but you you you kind of forced when you're in a crowd to make your own way even in the streets of New York's bubble you kinda like etch off is same way in a family. You have to act out your own little space in your dominant territory play certain role so it can't prepares you for life very easily. All working early by ten or eleven. Had Jobs really proficient in them? Middle Making money was money. When you'RE A kid. Well it was. I'll tell you why because if you wanted something new you had to make your money. Everything was hand me downs March family and in In my family you had to make money. Because they had to contribute to the household we had two bedrooms at ten kids parents in the Living Room. And that sounds like Oh my God. That's terrible it wasn't it honest to God. The happy film exceeded no any different. It was a tribe. I'm but a what wanted to make. Money is because we gave half our money back to the family. Whatever we made you know maybe sitting earlier than waitressing whatever you do scrap and half the money went your pocket the freedom of having your ten or eleven remember. That was leaving US box. I mean you felt like the man on campus. Oh I used to sell all these odd things. I would go and catch. Tadpoles and I would sell them. Individually as pets bought them back. I was so into having money mowed lawns all the time. I was really into it. 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One was out of the house. Never saw church again. But you have to realize in my family when we all went to church every morning my mother's Davao. Every morning every morning before school we went to early. Mass will march in like little penguins behind my mother. Dad didn't go. He was already at work but Was Our way of life so when I got out of that House Man. The last thing I wanted to ever do is go to Catholic Church or any church. Some shame away have two kids of my own who have no religion. I went the other way talk. Or they are God. But that's curious about have. They not really well. My son. Tommy is twenty-five knows not religious and my daughter is thirteen. And she's on either. Okay one day. They'll probably become religious zealots because I haven't given them religious exactly. Know How winds up third cults in the hills of California? I mean fingers crossed. That's interesting and I wouldn't be embarrassed by that. It's in fact it's a common thing. I've I've heard it on this show many times. Who grew up with a very Over twelve then you've It took me a while because we were county growing up. Catholic my are still very devout and L. We were altar boys. Oh yeah big part of our lives. I hope it was invincible. Altar boy career. It was it wasn't as scandalous as it was a F- fortunately there weren't those awful stories. I in fact I in a very important role model in my life. With My Godfather he was a missionary out Kathy missionary for for divine word missionaries in New Guinea. How and he was a big Dina. Saint it. He was saying he was saint lead. The things he did and it wasn't about spreading a particular ideology. He helped poor people. And you brought wells and clean drinking water to these people and and Real genuine good a good man and died early of of bone cancer and bone marrow cancer and continued his work up until even when it was painful and he should've been treated but he was a massive sturdy guy Father Joe. He was a great man and and and so. I was fortunate I was. You know you hear these awful stories. Obviously about the the church but but my one a role model for me was a Catholic priest so I kind of had the opposite experience no other way but to keep giving when he was sick right. Yeah that's the point. Where I mean he probably could have prolong this life had used a real like you said saintly. We had our family. My mother's brother was a Christian brother And he was charming good dapper. Dan had all nice frenzy brought over the other Christian brothers. We adored him and he was he. I'm sure was your uncle as well. He was the hero of the family to have in a Catholic family. Someone who goes with the cloth guys is such an honor. It's like gave you bragging the reason. My Dad was in the seminary for seven years. Beat trump wanted to at least seven years for you. He wasn't I know. Fortunately his natural urges overpowered his desire. I know we wouldn't be here. You would have a free afternoon. Doesn't work out for you. I bet Do you struggle with every subject in school was just really mad. I just couldn't read and do numbers. Basically most what you have in your early is right. That's what it's about yeah And at what point did you gain confidence? At what point. Did you start succeeding? And I never did succeed in school but the more important Thing was when did I learn to read by seventh grade? I was in reading but when I was fourteen. My mother gave me the book. Withering Heights Flash Toronto and I got into read me the first few pages I got into it and by the end of the summer I finished the book and I realized I knew how to read. I know that sounds like hogwash. But that's really Howard hap. How cool then. She gave me gone with the wind which was so sexy and then she gave me the one with Heathrow the dark guy. That was uh Claret heathcliff yeah was that was weathering heights. That's withering has been. She gave me a third one was a with. I might be wrong. No that's right out. There might be heathcliff now. Ray Work of the lover heathcliff and he marries a girl who didn't want any part of him he's rehabbed. Yes that was withering onto Moore's yeah the then It was gone with the wind and then she gave me now. I forget which another loverboy book I was reading. I mean slow but how cool F and his reading still important to us is still bomb. I don't read much because it takes me so long to read something so but but I listened to a lot of easy for we. We didn't have that when I was a kid boom to children who can't read that's true. I never thought about that was different for this generation of. Yeah what were you interested in as a kid was it about wanting to be better schools at about gave up early my second grade given up forgetting. I was daydreaming. If you could have only tapped into my head and got it on a piece of paper Haris that were going on my head. I would have been agreed anything Yeah but it couldn't come out. You know it was. It was trapped but you know what I got good at by the time I was in sixth or seventh grade. That's kind of fed up with You know looking like I was dumb kid and I started getting my mouth and I've always been able to talk well enough. A huge part of humorous. I could be festive. My feet was a comeback. I could persuade kids to follow me. I got I hide the biggest club on my block. You know they all want to be. My Club is the most on what was called. It was called. Gosh don't WanNa tell you when i WanNa know more is college Shanghainese Club. I would have been in that club. I would have been welcome. Yeah you could have been the vice president. I mean I hate to ask this the nature of the clay I can imagine. Is it a self explanatory? But I should have had the smarts name it something else I could just say. What's the name of your club and I could have said it's oats where four blocks club or you can ask anything the SHC and you're the president and the president but it was popular by vets. Who doesn't like Heine and everyone hasn't Heine it's perfect -tarian. Every kid was willing to show it. It earned while it's really in the club if that was the rules and that was my leadership ability right then and there. That's really funny if you Until I mother showed up. Oh I bet the club houses. Charlie's boat there. Was this all sweet guy? Who's building a boat in a garage behind the house in our town every part adult an older man. Lovely lovely man. He led US plane. No he was above the club. Okay go he said. Go play in the boat. He thinks it's a little weird didn't even Sancti He. He didn't know what we're doing. When he came up to work on the books he worked on a few hours every day. Who's building a boat and this is a true story. He knocked down the garage eventually and sailed away on the Hudson River. You'd swear that was bad so cool cool guy and then he came back back. Two years later gave all the kids in my family. My mother my father was there. He was working. He gave us a ride on the Hudson River on his boat. That was my showing these club. Which kind of eight fuel a little illegal taboo? But I what I wanted to say is when Charley came up which is usually around. Four four fifteen in the afternoon after we've been playing. The clube always resigned his way. We knew he was coming up. He'd say what are you kids doing their silly and are we would all chiming ahead. Everyone Trade Chime back MAKING SPAGHETTI. Bang pots could for love Spaghetti. That's really funny. That went on for a couple of stuff after you graduated from college. You taught speaking of. I don't know how to make this transition few credited from college you taught for a year. Yes I did. That's for someone who struggled so in in school. That's really you know. I had a lot of lucky breaks. Here's what happened graduate from high school and I was. I know for a fact I was the second lowest ranked person in the entire high school graduating class. Because in those days they would they would. Have you come to the cab not the cafeteria? Gymnasium they'd light a bowl the seniors gymnasium. You sit in alphabetical order. And then what they would do. They would call your name but they would call extra name in who did worse on the SAT. I think it was called something different than like college entrance. Exams there clay. Who DID WORSE THAN THERE? Were two people name before And when they called out my name I sat down in my chair feeling embarrassed but when I opened it up they had made a mistake. I was in the top ten. Th percentile of the whole graduates get class. I went from barely passing a course my whole life to the top ten percent and so I now everything. I'm in look look look I had everybody look. I was in shock and then some of this wouldn't really good looking smart kid and I knew he said No. You read it wrong. You the bottom ten haw embarrassing when well so that was embarrassing by then. I couldn't get embarrassed. Was Kinda funny after a few minutes and like you said like you know. You're it's controversy something to overcome it something to work through. Yeah but you know every not every girl and edgewater where I grew up at. That time was a factory. Jersey New Jersey. Not every girl was getting pregnant in high school but a lot work but everybody was getting married right. After the graduation everyone had a boyfriend seemed except for me. I'm sure there are other girls that didn't have boyfriends but I couldn't see them so I didn't have a boy I wasn't getting married. What God what do I do? Shanghainese club had no more members headed to spend it on my birthday. Okay because I was so much taller than everybody. Your honey was more developed. I was worried about going to jail. Yeah I get it. I didn't