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"dennis rader" Discussed on Crimes of Passion
"That clip from serial killers shows one of the many communications raider head with police in media following his last murder in nineteen ninety-one. The BTK case went cold until two thousand four when Raider restarted his communication with police and the media in the end raiders desire to be noticed lead to his capture. He sent the media a floppy disk containing his writings believing that couldn't be traced back to him using the data. Police were able to track down. Dennis Rader Council President of Christ Lutheran Church Ma Boutique as communication with police ultimately proved to be his downfall. The subject of our next clip sent letters but still managed to evade capture coming up we examined the perplexing puzzles left by the Zodiac killer. High listeners I am so thrilled to announce the launch of our new podcast series supernatural with Ashley. Flowers has been an incredible success. We can't thank you enough for all of your support if you haven't had a chance to listen yet. You definitely need to head over to the supernatural with Ashley. Flowers feed and subscribe today every Wednesday. Ashley Flowers takes on a different crime or mystery were the most bidding theory isn't always the most conventional trust me. You do not want to miss out on these fantastically weird stories. We're the debts of two Brazilian men result of making contact with spirits on Mars. Get closer to the truth than ever before. Regarding the mystifying lead masks case did four friends have a highly unusual encounter during a camping trip in Maine sort through the out of this world circumstances surrounding the allegations incident. And who and what were responsible for the unexplained death of Australia's Somerton man dig deeper into the peculiar details and poetry involved? In this case each week Ashley takes on the strange and surreal to explain some of the world's most bizarre true crime occurrences it's already parkas classic and I can't wait for you to check it out. Fellow supernatural with Ashley. Flowers Freon spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Now back to the show. So far we've covered. Dennis rader also known as the btk killer throughout his killing spree. He sent messages to the police and media. This compulsive need for recognition. Ultimately led to his downfall. And he's not the only killer that felt compelled to broadcast his crimes are next clip comes from unexplained mysteries covering the still unsolved murders committed by the Zodiac killer the Zodiac killer claimed killed up to thirty seven victims but only five murders and two attempted murders have been definitively connected to the Sodhi AC over the course of the investigation detectives collected clues from the scenes of the crimes including tire tracks and a description of the killer by the two survivors but seven months after the first murder two newspapers received their perplexing clue directly from the killer.
"dennis rader" Discussed on Elvis Duran and the Morning Show
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"dennis rader" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins
"Been awhile since we sucked on a serial killer like popcorn of he reminds me mostly compared to the people we done before of BT K. Dennis Rader selling husband, great, dad soulless butcher of others body count. Obviously lot higher with pop of. But both had an interest in law enforcement both used it to find their victims. You know, Dennis was taken out victims while he was sitting ADT security systems and pop of used his badge to kidnap rape and kill not necessarily in that order still so strange how well the human mind can compartmentalize like how someone can be a warm loving father, and then just brutally rape torture. Kill women roughly the same age as his daughter. It reminds me strangely of Nazis in a way. Right. How did some of them do what they did to Jewish people reminding people homosexual others they dehumanize them. They decided to believe that those people were not only less than human. They were a disease afflicting humanity itself and. You go there and your head and suddenly not only is it not immoral to kill. It's noble heroic lot easier to hurt and kill when you when you believe that when you have that belief system same with the man, he how did he torture and kill so many women he rationalized that. He was doing society a favor he was helping Russia. Just like cheekily thought he was doing cleaning out the unclean. Popcorn was was he was ridden humanity in his community of filthy women. He told one Russian media outlet Medusa that any society condemns the behavior of a debauched woman said he would only attack the kind of woman who behaved as if she didn't care where we went and the most important thing to her was partying what fucking shit. Why not fucking letter party you fucking asshole. He despises women. He thought this should be home thought that they had no value because they wanted to have some drinks thought they were morally corrupting society, and you just couldn't see how he in fact. Is the real corruption? Right. He was the monster. He was the person bringing down Russian society the whole time and the meat sack rank and get so twisted. If you're not careful gotta keep an eye on those thoughts, you got to keep talking to others. Keep your thoughts and check make sure that when you think that you're cleaning the world up that you're not in fact, one of the assholes making it fuck and filthy. So let's recap about how not. You life with today's top five takeaways. Time. Number one fifty five. Former fifty five year old former Siberian police officer Mikhail Victoria, vich pop has been convicted of killing seventy seven women and one man he currently sits in solitary confinement in Russia's most notorious prison the black dolphin serving a life sentence. Number two, nearly all of Mikhail's victims were from N Garcia, one of the saddest cities..
"dennis rader" Discussed on Chapo Trap House
"Cheeseburger, which is probably my favorite item. I believe he does. He's not the Big Mac guy. The policeman is the Big Mac fuck that fuck that cop. So Big Mac. Call cops are burgers. Do you? Remember, do you? Remember when McDonald's came out with like, a cool sexy hamburglar? Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was just like three or four years. Yeah. They were like get this hamburglar, but you wanna fuck coal. It was like a cool. He was lived in the suburbs. But he's still he's like payroll Rourke. Did he do crimes? He was the only threatened to the only one where there's like he's in his man cave. It looks like a serial killer movie because he's got a man cave is in his garage like Dennis Rader with all of his trophies from when he was the hamburglar, and then there's on other members are where is he gonna come back. And then he puts he grabs his outfit. But then they never had another ad because it was like what the fuck is this like, yeah. Never mind. You guys like the grimace right now. I I love the idea of the hamburglar coming back for one big score. You know, they never did it. They were. I think they were gonna tease like. Yeah. A narrative where they're doing like a refuse style high burgers. But it never happened. It's like you got it. If you guys if you Google sexing hamburglar, you get the full lowdown on this thing. And there's a photo of him. And it's for twenty fifteen people were also saying he was kind of a hipster. Yeah. Half burglar. And I feel like he was other thing that was. Kind of washed away in the election of two thousand sixteen at least heavy worked worked on Portland here for several years. I felt like the whole hipster thing in you'd never heard about it again after the election of Donald Trump. That's there was so much like abusive hipsters jokes about hipsters, hipster hipster things. And then like, I think it just like disappeared. Like, I I think. think say things to worry about I think it's because hipster like the word, and is just one of those things like the definition became so elastic just covered like basically every young white person in the country, and like that elastic band has sort of snapped. But it's just been replaced with like str- S J W S because no flake or the implication of this is why gamut mcginnis so hard for people understand him while he was able to find her the right offer so long because he had the appearance of a hipster and there's an unspoken assumption about hip since they were like liberal that they were like urbanites who are cosmopolitan sophisticates, and at least bog center liberal leftist. And so now when like Trump is president, and you've got the eruption of, you know, the seething mass of angry car, dads and their shitty. Sons and maga- hats, you have to like no longer is this hipster chunk of white male them. The enemy is like you have to have an uneasy alliance with them. You know? I just think it's like hips are used to mean like every white person like under forty lived in a city. And now that the that, you know, like even that's too specific now, and now it's just every young person in the country of any race, gender or location. Millennial took over for him. Yeah. There you go. That's why you see like all the boomer memes about like eating tide pods. And how you know socialism will have you eating rats or whatever. Like, that's all. Yeah. It's all millennial hate. It's just the entire generation. Now, it's been hipster fide..
"dennis rader" Discussed on Murder Minute
"Ninth victim was Vicky Wegerle. She enjoyed the piano, raider hurt her plane while stock in her home in dub this project, piano on the afternoon of September. Sixteenth nineteen eighty six he dressed into telephone repairmen's uniform and knocked on Vicki store. He told her that he needed to check on her phone lines, so she opened the door and let him in once he was inside. He pulled a gun on Vicki he tied her up and strangled her. With a pair of pantyhose, Vicky struggled mightily, and made a great deal of noise. When she finally stopped movie, the killer, rearranged her clothing into three polaroid pictures of her dead body fearing that all the noise could have attracted attention. He left quickly escaping in the victim's car. Vicky Wegger release husband was on his way home for lunch, when he saw the killer drive, right? Past him behind the wheel of his wife's car. The car would be found abandoned later that day two blocks away from the wiggly home. Vicky regularly is murder was not immediately attributed to the beat decay, killer, her husband Bill was considered to be a suspect for eighteen years until the beat decay, killer confessed to the crime and a two thousand four letter to the Wichita eagle. A sixty two year old retiree would be raiders last known victim thinking that it would be easier to overpower an older woman, BT, K set his sights on Deloris d Davis. She lived near a dog kennel so was dubbed project oxide again, he used a scout camp as a cover for his crime. On a cold January night and nineteen Ninety-one he set up his camp site, then sneaked away, I, he moved his car near his church because he was a scout leader. He had keys to the building. He changed into dark clothes and symbol. His hit kit of ropes bindings and weapons. He walked over two miles, on notice to Davis's house where he broken and strangled her. He wrapped her dead body in a blanket and put it in the trunk of her car. He dumped her body under a bridge and return to camp the next day he came back to the spot under the bridge. Were he had lefties body? He put a mask on her to prettier up and imposed her corpse for bondage photos, later told investigators that the mask was his, and that he would sometimes photograph himself in bondage, poses brain that same mask, the Lord's Davis's body would be found for thirteen days. For over a decade, the BT K case remained cold, then in March of two thousand four the Wichita eagle received a letter. The return addressee was Bill, Thomas Kelman B, T k the author of the letter claimed to a murder Vicky Wegerle and nineteen eighty six and included crime scene photos and a copy of regular driver's license, which had been stolen at the time of her murder throughout two thousand four additional letters and packages were received by local media outlets and discovered in public. Places in June. A package containing a graphic description of the Ortega family murders was found taped to a stop sign in which ta and December a package was found and a local park. This one contained the driver's license of BT, cave victim, Nancy FOX, which was reported missing at the time for murder in January of two thousand five while attempting to leave a package and Home Depot. Parking lot Beechy K is seen on grainy surveillance footage driving a black Jeep Cherokee in correspondence with police, the BT K killer asked if police would be able to trace his letters if he sent them on a floppy disk the police responded in a newspaper, ad assuring him that they would not be able to trace them on February sixteenth two thousand five, the town's local FOX affiliate received a package from BT k, which included a floppy disk in the meta data on the disc was deleted word document containing Christ Lutheran church. The document was last modified by Dennis a quick internet. Search turned up Dennis Rader at Christ. Lutheran church. Drove a black Jeep Cherokee, police believe that Reiter, was there guy. But they needed more evidence. They got a warrant to testing a from a Pap smear raiders daughter had taken while she was a student at Kansas state university. The deny. Was determined to be close match to the killer. Dennis Rader was arrested on February twenty fifth two thousand five and charged with ten counts of first degree murder. He pleaded guilty in June of two thousand five describing his crimes in great detail without apology during his hearing his family did not attend. Any of his court appearances still reeling from the shock of learning that their beloved husband and father was drained killer in a sentencing in August of two thousand five he gave a bizarre rambling nearly thirty minute. Long statement Kansas did not have the death penalty at the time of the killings instead Reiter was sentenced to ten consecutive life sentences. He serves this time at El Dorado correctional facility where his held in solitary confinement for his own safety Kerry, Rawson, the adult daughter of Dennis Rader has written a book about her. Experience called a serial killer starter for more on this story. Download the murder minute app from the app store. Don't forget to download the murder men at app available on the app store, and Google play subscribed today on Himalayas apple podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast and follow us on Instagram at murder minute for even more. True crime headlines murder minute. Your daily dose of true crime.
"dennis rader" Discussed on Murder Minute
"October of nineteen seventy four. He sent a letter to the Wichita eagle beacon, claiming responsibility for the tarot families murders. The unsigned letter was full spelling and grammatical errors, but included detail about the crime that could only been known to the killer and the postscript he suggested that he should be known as BT K an allusion to the method of binding torturing and killing his victims. He promised that there would be more victims. The police do not release this information to the public and. BT K. Would not kill again for three years when he did his victim was surely Viann a twenty six year old mother of three who was home with her children. When BT K struck he told terrified Shirley, that he had a problem with sexual fantasies, and that he needed to tire up, and that if she and her children, cooperated, they wouldn't be killed, Shirley, complied and help the killer locker children in the bathroom. He gave them toys and blankets to comfort them then tied Charlie's feet to the bedpost just as he had done to Kevin bright, years earlier, surely vomited, while b k was tying her down. He got her a glass of water and tried to comfort her. He then tied her with a rope and secured a plastic bag over her head, he masturbated as he watched her die. Her horrify children, watch through an opening and bathroom door. The killer plan to murder the children just as he had the taros a ringing phone disrupted his plan varying that the police were on their way. He fled the home leaving the children locked in the bathroom. By the end of nineteen seventy seven the BT K killer had moved onto yet another project. He called this one project, FOX hunt victim. Nancy FOX was twenty five. She worked here in the day as a secretary for a construction company and nights out, outta jewelry store. He chose December eighth nineteen seventy seven as the day he would attack. He parked, a few blocks away from Nancy's house. He approached and knocked on her door. When no one answered he went around the back and cut the phone lines. He broke in through kitchen door and waited for her to return home in his confession. Dennis Rader called this attack. A perfect hit like some of his other victims. He told Nancy that he was just going to tire up and took steps to put her at ease, they talked and smoke a cigarette while he went through her purse, she said, she wanted to get it over with, and asked if she could go to the bathroom. I, he allowed this, and told her to take off her clothes washing in there when she came out of the bathroom. He put her in handcuffs later on the bed, tighter feet, and then strangled her with about when she was nearly dead. He released his grip on the belt, and whispered in her ear that he was the be Tocchet killer. As he tells in his confession this made her squirmy than more. He tightened the belt again do not let up until Nancy FOX was dead, he masturbated as she died. He brazenly reported her murder to the police himself dialing nine one, one from a payphone in January of nineteen seventy nine he sent a poem to the eagle beacon, referencing the murder of Shirley Viann less than two weeks later, he sent a letter to K A, K TV in Wichita, claiming responsibility for the murders of Nancy FOX, and Shirley Viann as well as another unnamed victim letter began, how many do I have to kill before. I get my name in the paper or some national recognition after this letter was perceived, Wichita police chief Richard Lamongan called a press conference and announced with public that there was a serial killer on the loose. And they believed that he would kill again. BT K would strike again, in April of nineteen Seventy-nine victime was Anna Williams, a recent widow who lived alone. That night. He cut her phone line and broke into her house, where he waited for her to return home and waited and waited and waited. And William state outlay with her friends that evening and it saved her life. The killer got tired of waiting so he stole a few things and left when Anna returned home. She found her house broken into her phone dead a few months later Anna received a package containing items stolen from her house. A drawing of what the killer intended to do it her an opponent titled. Oh, anna. Why didn't you appear? He similar package to the media after this failed attack. The B K killer went dormant for more than six years. Marine hedge lift five houses away from Dennis. Rader. She was a petite woman recently widowed. Whom Dennis would wave to when he saw her outside gardening an April of nineteen eighty five he decided she would be an ideal project for him. He dubbed her project, cookie used a cub scout camping trip as opportunities to pounce, while everyone slept, he crept from his tent and sneaked way, he drove to marine hedges house, cut the phone lines and broken marine was not home when she did return marine. Head was in the company of a male friend who stayed until around one AM the killer hid in her bedroom closet, waiting until her guests had gone home, and she was alone in her bed to finally pounds. He strangled her, and then wrapped her body in a blanket and put it in the trunk of her car. He drove to the parking lot of the church where he'd been a member for decades, he snuck her body into the church basement and took polaroid pictures of marine hedges dead body arranged in different bondage, poses when he had finished. He dumped her body in a ditch. And smack back to the cub scout camp. Undetected Beata, Kay's ninth
"dennis rader" Discussed on Murder Minute
"Welcome to the murder minute podcast today, we will be diving into the story of Dennis Rader, also known as BT K, but I your true crime headlines. The long delayed murder trial of John John Chuck is scheduled to begin this week more than four years after his arrest for the murder of his five year old daughter. John, Chuck stands accused of dropping his daughter Phoebe, from the Meisner bridge more than sixty feet above the cold dark waters of the Tampa Bay. John checks lawyers plan to mount an insanity defense a North Carolina man was arrested during a traffic. Stop outside of Tucson Arizona last week, armed with a knife and carrying a large amount of cash just thirty four miles from the Mexican border. The man fifty seven year old record Lynn keel junior is accused of murder in the stabbing death of his wife, Diana Alejandra. He'll whose decomposed body was found in a wooded area five days after she went missing. Investigators are also taking another look at the death of kills first wife, Elizabeth who died in a slip and fall accident in the couple's home more than a decade ago. A Massachusetts court reinstated the murder conviction of late NFL star Aaron Hernandez. Who hanged himself inside his jail cell in twenty seventeen Hernandez was serving a life sentence for the murder of Odin Lloyd in twenty thirteen and was awaiting an appeal at the time of his death, the high court ruled last week that the statute, which allowed for a conviction to be vacated, if the accused died before, exhausting, their appeals was antiquated and should not be applied in Hernandez's case or any others. Those are your true crime headlines. For more headlines. Check out the murder minute app in the app store and Google play. Or follow us on Instagram at murder minute. Coming up next, the story of BT K strangler Dennis Rader, but first acquit break. On this episode of murder minute. Another case familial DNA played a part, though this one also includes a healthy dose of plain old stupidity. Did is raider was a husband a father, a cub scout leader in the president of his church congregation. He was also a sadistic killer known as BT K who confessed to ten murders in and around, which talk Kansas. Dennis Rader was born in Pittsburg Kansas in nineteen forty five. He moved to Wichita when he was a child. The oldest of four boys Dennis was a seemingly normal kid he was involved in his church youth group. The boy scouts and was an average student, one of his former classmates described him as completely devoid of a sense of humor, but polite and quiet as a child Dennis fantasized about bondage, and torture. He secretly killed cats and dogs by hanging during his youth. He joined the air force at the age of twenty one and served for four years. He returned to Wichita after he was discharged and married twice. Eighty six braider and his wife. Paula had two children, a son and a daughter they raised them in Park City, Kansas, a quiet suburb of Wichita sometime in late nineteen Seventy-three. Dennis was depressed after being laid off from his job. It was out trolling for victims as they called it. He's spotted Julie or tarot thirty three taking children to school. He was attracted to the beautiful mother, and also to her daughter Josephine, who has just eleven they would be as first victims his projects as he called them two months later in January of nineteen seventy four. He cut the phone lines at the tarot house and pushed his way in the back door one morning, while young Joe, your tarot was leading the dog out raider had expected to find just Julie and the children in the house. But was apprised instead to find that Mr. Ortego was also home. He held the form or toes at gun point in. Order them to lie down on the living room floor. He moved them to the bedroom tied up Julian just faint on the bed and Joseph enjoy on the floor. He decided that since he had not wanna mask and all four or taros has seen his face. He would need to put them down. He tied a plastic bag around Joseph's head suffocate him then strangled, Julie, once he killed the parents, he suffocated nine year old, Joey Tida bag over his head, and then point up a chair, so that he could sit and watch the child squirm and struggle after Joey was dead. He took Josephine to the basement. He hunger from a rope that he had slung over a pipe suspended, her low enough that her feet almost touched the ground, and then masturbated as he watched her slowly die. Dennis Rader, then cleaned up and left. The house. You're taros were found by their teenage son, when he returned home from school that day soon after raider was out. Trolling again. Then when he spotted Kathryn bright, she was a pretty twenty one year old college student, and he chose her to be as next victim projects lights out. He called it on April fourth nineteen seventy four project, lights out was ago, he burst through the screen door of Kathryn, Bright's home rain, a stocking cap and carrying a twenty two pistol though. He had stock Catherine. He was unaware, that she had a brother, it was the price to find. He was home with Catherine. He tied up both of them securing Kevin Bright's feet to the bed post, as he began to strangle Catherine in his confession. He would tell of how Catherine fought like hell cat, Kevin managed to escape his bindings so raider shot him in the head. Then continued to struggle, Catherine. She continued fight, and eventually, who stabbed her. We went back to check on Kevin. He was shocked to find that not only had he is revive the two gunshot wounds to the head, but Kevin was actually. Running from the house, in search of help the BT K killer, quickly cleaned up and fled. The home running five or six blocks back to where he had left his car. Dennis Rader had started working for the ADT security company in the fall of nineteen seventy four. He would keep this job from more than a decade, working to install security systems, and the very same neighborhoods Hughes terrorizing and October
"dennis rader" Discussed on WHAS 840 AM
"After the new news on NewsRadio eight forty W H A S. Common sense. Lynn Conway on NewsRadio. Eight forty W H A S. Brother 'cause you got a lot of time. So here's something specific for the mayor. I hate him calling in and. Talking about having to raise taxes. He mentioned a lot of cities. I I'm looking up right now to see what their tax burden is the cities that he mentioned Austin, Indianapolis, I think or the other cities that he mentioned you remember how Nashville Austin and India where the three biggies trying to look I'm going to look into their tax burden, but I found this. And this goes back a few years to two thousand fourteen but this was now we've had increases since then with MS D And other things. And now what the mayor is proposing. We were the eight highest tax burden in the country. When it comes to like cities USA today top ten cities with the highest tax rates, and it combines everything and gives you the highest tax burden and we were number eight. So the mayor is always predicated his thoughts on we need to have more businesses come to the city, and we need to have the city, you know, looking to the future and being a progressive city in a city that. It has a lot of people coming. Being in the top ten highest tax burden is not exactly an attracted. So a throw that out there. Anyway. So this is is interesting. There's a Netflix series right now. Keep seeing it pop up on the Ted Bundy, it's called the Ted Bundy interviews while he was on death row. There's also a new major movie on ABC's twenty twenty specialist Friday. And it seems that we really can't get enough of this particular notorious serial killer and the question becomes why. Are we fascinated fascinated with serial killers? It's well, I think it's a scarce us. I think it's kind of an obvious question. Right. It's like it's scary and interesting all at the same time. Anyway, brad. Garrett from ABC news, former FBI agent, he explores why we're fascinated with them the women who are attracted to them Bundy got married and fathered a child after he was convicted and put on death row. And why Bundy is unique in that way? Brad joining me now. Hey, Brad, what's going on? Good morning. Leland. So why are we fascinated with serial killer? I mean, it seems kind of obvious right? I mean. Well, it is he's hit on most of it morbid curiosity, but think about it this way people like like Bundy, you know, violent, vile thoughts, and then he acts on them the rest of us. Obviously if we have bad thoughts about somebody. We don't act on. So there's this sort of vicarious thrill from a safe distance to sort of look at somebody like him and be fascinated by you know, the added element in a he was a good looking guy. It's bright articulate, and so it's kind of like how could he be that? But still also the basically the devil. Yeah. What is it that causes women to be attracted to these guys? What's the deal with that? It's a combination. Some look at these guys like that they can straighten them out that they they basically believe they're not guilty. And that they're they're they're sort of their savior. There's other beliefs that they do this. Because it's obviously they have issues with relationships is if that's not an understatement. If you're attracted to these guys and to save relationship, you only have to see the person an hour a day or every other day, you know, I guess some people might say that's an ideal. Really? Yeah. But but be that day, you know, it is that and so basically it's kind of having a relationship and not really having one. And but also getting attention. Most of these women, you know, I have some pretty severe psychological issues themselves, and this gives them a lot of tension. I mean, Carol goon who Bundy married and had a child by you know, she was, you know, well known for at least a period of time. Yeah. Did you ever dear? Have you ever talked to one of these guys like have you ever talked to a serial killer in prison as you study? What makes their minds works? No, you're an analyst. And so you you have deep interest in this stuff. Have you ever talked to one of them number when I was in the FBI? I did you know, I interviewed who he Malveaux length of the DC snipers who would. Ten people here in DC. The different bent that. They're still serial killers. And you know. Really hard to nail down. How they get this way. I mean, clearly they like they really let carrying despite the superficiality that they do. There's a belief that isn't a good the gray matter in your frontal lobe above your is that the infancy impulse control. Neurons. Get connected or over there. They're minorly connected. These folks, so they never really have feelings even though they pretend to have them history navy of child abuse, they tend to come from sort of troubled homes, but a lot of people do obviously they don't end up hurting people. The real key. When when you study these people is they all have these mega violent fantasy and fantasies chart in elementary school, and they grow and they get bigger now. I'm you see a lot of people who are seven eight nine ten years. Have you know, bad thoughts about people never act on fantasy? And these guys that didn't turns to Chechen compulsion to where they feel like they can't control themselves anymore, and they act once they act they can't stop. The drug dealers. Doing it. Right. Do you think it's possible? If you figure out that your young child is having these kinds of fantasies to head this off. And and make them healthy. Can you make him totally healthy? I don't know. Can you perhaps there them before they get Stupar in the answer is? Yes, I mean, you know, obviously, these are anti social personality. It's pretty difficult to get somebody not to be social, but I think can with some work with some moderate them to the point where the fantasy fantasies do not turn into reality. So that's something to really think about. Most of the worst serial killer seemed to be pre social media has has social media had any kind of impact or effect on this type of mindset. Standpoint that those of of those who like to communicate like obviously Bundy did. Dennis Rader Btk killer that ABC instead a couple of hours on. In Wichita, you know, he liked the media would play cat-and-mouse, welcome. So there is that obviously it's a lot easier to today than it would have been in the nineteen seventy one of the reasons Bundy didn't get caught was there was no internet. There was no sort of reading mechanism for the police to to to each other. And so they of course, they did. And they work their their jurisdiction, and that's all they work. Says it doesn't allow us to head them off faster when they're expressing things on social media. You know, like, maybe maybe it never develops to the point. You know, we're almost maybe heading off some serial killers because of social media. We can see what people are saying doing and thinking. Right. I'll give you an example. Dennis Rader, Btk HR was the he went dormant in like ninety one. And then in the early two thousand he starts right in the media. And of course, they beat him through law enforcement to keep reading he does he they eventually convinced him into thumb drive or leave a thumb drive. The meta data on that stunned drive testing right back to where it was produced, and they caught it within a few days. Yes. It can it can work both ways. That's fascinating. Because it's almost like you were talking about the brain. It's almost like social media has become like an alternate brain for people people forget that they forget that. They're not anonymous, you know, they laid their thoughts out there in a way that most people would only internalize when they're walking around and yet they lay it out there. And there it is for everybody to see. Right. So exactly. And so they believe they can say things vile inappropriate since they do all day long. Yeah. And you know, I mean, I probably have gotten some of those emails along. Oh, wow. You really would say that anybody could be mad at me. That's fine. Say say, those kinds of things I mean, just, you know, obviously, people boundaries now have become an issue for people just because of the very reason or one of the reasons that you just mentioned that they can just you know, they can say it and feel like you'll never figure out who I am speaking of these speaking. Yeah. Speaking of these fascinating stories of you've been following the situation up in the north west, which by the way, is known notoriously known for serial killers. Were these feet keeps showing up in shoes? Like like, a foot just shows up in a shoe, and it washes ashore, and they can't figure out why these feet just keep showing up in us. You're asking me. What does that mean? Or why I'm asking if you've been following the story if you think that's the hallmark of a serial killer of some sort or some sort of natural phenomena. I mean, it's hard to believe a natural phenomena. But I think it's hard to say, you know, more. I mean is that from some catastrophe at Saint is it somebody, you know, that has dismembered body, and then taking it out to see it's up the first case, I will tell you or just taking them out to see and dump them. And then they didn't do a very good job of that. And the stuff comes back to shore. So he always it's always the same body part though. That's the thing is it's not like it's not like, oh an arm just showed up now ahead. It's always an and the overwhelming majority of them are left feet, but it's always a foot, and it's always a foot in a shoe. It's usually in a tennis shoe. The other question would be undistorted stuff out there. Yeah. Sure. The on it's not beyond drug cartels to whack off rims people. Yeah. Attention now, obviously that would get my attention than yours. So there's some of that going on here who knows? There may be something beyond the you know, like this has got to be some cannibal. I serial killer could be there are there are other possibilities. Yeah. Interesting. All right. Hey, brad. It's always good to talk to you. I appreciate your take on. This is a former FBI analyst fascinating stuff in you. Guys have a special on ABC's twenty twenty tomorrow night for two hours. Okay. Perfect. Awesome. We'll see you. Then. Thanks,.
"dennis rader" Discussed on The Thinking Atheist
"He was able to take responsibility for his own eternal destiny. And he was indeed a center he was part of a sinful generation as sinful species a sinful world. And so when Dennis Rader executed him by hanging in full view of the silent witness who did nothing to intervene. It was partially. The boys fault. Now, if you tell this to a devout Christian, you will immediately see the protests, right? They'll say absolutely not that stupid. That's ridiculous. There's no way I would blame a nine year old child for his own murder. And it wasn't a boy's fault. It was the world's fault. It's humankind's fault. Sinful people whose disobedience has simply limited God's ability to intervene. How can God be limited by anything? So then if the child is truly innocent doesn't the murder become even more egregious more immoral more unjust, you know, we got Christianity declaring that true. Innocence was struck down. This should be an insult to the very nature of a deity that represents perfect good. And then you will often see the believer retreat, and they're like well the innocent child was born into a sinful world. It was part of humankind's disease of San we were born with original sin from Adam and eve, and Satan is everywhere in evil is everywhere and God can't always intervene, but he wants to intervene with all of his heart because he's the ultimate good. And God would never want the death of a nine year old child. You see them spinning on this hamster wheel of illogic. The whole time. They seem less and less concerned with the idea that God who is everywhere at all times was in the room. Just picture it in your mind. Dennis Rader is hanging nine year old and God is in the room. He is there physically. God is everywhere at all times. God is ever present. In our times of need. God is in the room. Of course, the believer has to equivocate and jump around and excuse and bend the rules and try to blink this nonsense away. Imagine if a human being was in the room, an actual person was right there with the power and opportunity to stop the madness to stop the murder and to save the child and did nothing, but watch imagine how we treat that person. It'd be a social pariah would be screaming that they be imprisoned or worse. What kind of a monster would sit there or stand there and say and do nothing. This is a moral outrage. How can we abide this this person doesn't have a conscience? They disgust me. That's what we'd say about a person in the room. While we're talking about concepts like these travel with me in time back to two thousand and four December the twenty six day after Christmas just off the coast of northern Sumatra. And the ocean floor is under intense tectonic pressure. And all of a sudden it suddenly just gives way the ocean floor, splits and it thrusts upward with the violence. That can barely be imagined and above the ocean floor the waters become walls up to one hundred feet high and barreling toward the shore. And for so many people on the twenty six December two thousand four in the face of this deadly wall of water. There was no warning nowhere to run so many victims and potential victims in the path before that day was over two hundred twenty seven thousand eight hundred ninety eight people had died horribly in the soon nominees. Now, let's go back to the bible. Isaiah chapter forty five or twelve says, I'm made the earth and created man on it. It was my hands that stretched out the heavens and I- commanded all their host verse eighteen that same chapter says for thus says the Lord who created the heavens..
"dennis rader" Discussed on Serial Killers
"Closet, but raiders motel room, panties weren't as satisfying for him as actual murders, family responsibilities. Is kept him from settling on a victim for several years after his failed attempt at killing Williams in nineteen seventy nine, but he continued to stalk women. He was window shopping if you will, by April nineteen eighty five. He was forty years old and not quite as spry as he used to be. He picked an easy target that didn't require much stocking or detective work. His fifty three year old neighbor marine hedge. He called her project cookie because she worked at a local cafe. His nine year old son, Brian had been in the boy scouts. Now for two years and raider had become a scout leader on April twenty six scouts were having a camping trip and raider knew this would give him the free time. He needed to commit its next murder. He spent the evening of April twenty six that the campgrounds with the other boy scout fathers then told them he was tired and going to bed with no one watching him in the tent. He was able to sneak out to his car and drive to a bowling alley. He. Tended to be drunk and hired a taxi to drive him to his neighborhood. The taxi dropped him off a block away from marines home. He snuck through the yard of his wife's parents to reach marines house. Then cut her phone line. He broken and waited. But when he heard marine arriving home with a male friend, he hit an closet after an hour marines. Friend left and marine went to bed. She had no idea. There was a monster hiding just a few feet away. She woke up to her neighbor raider, choking the life out of her after raider finished killing marine. He tied her up to engage in twisted sexual fantasies. For some reason, it wasn't enough for him to take pictures of marine in her bedroom. He wanted to take pictures of her corpse in his church. The only explanation that he ever offered police was that he had a mean streak raider hid, marines body in a blanket and transported her to his Lutheran church in her car. He took photos of her bound corpse and the churches classroom grotesquely positioning her limbs like she was a doll Reiter, then dumped marines body in a ditch by fifty. Third, north abandoned her car and drove his own car back to the boy scout camp. The other boy scout fathers never even noticed. He was missing the police, never suspected writer for marine murder. Instead, many believed that marines male friend. The last one to see her alive was the one to kill her when his wife and neighbors gossiped about marines. Friend Reiter insisted that he wasn't the killer perhaps because he couldn't stand the idea of someone else getting the credit for one of his murders between raiders family commitments and career. He had little time to devote to killing it wasn't until a year later in September of nineteen eighty six. That writer selected his next target twenty eight year old, Vicki wiggly. He picked her for a couple of reasons. She was young blonde and an excellent pianist. She was generally home alone everyday parenting, her two year old son, and her house had a covered porch. So no one would see raider coming or going raider listened to Vicki play piano as he stalked her. He liked hearing her place so much that he named her project piano on September, sixteenth. He knocked on Vicki's door posing as telephone repairmen. As soon as she let him inside raider pulled his gun on her and forced her into the bedroom. He strangled her, but Vicky fought back scratching, raiders face and permanently scarring him. Nevertheless, he managed to kill her. He took three photos of Vicki's corpses trophies and grabbed her driver's license before leaving. He didn't strangle Vicki's two year old son, mainly because the boy had been in the living room and hadn't witnessed the murder. Sadly, the police didn't realize that Vic. He was killed by BT k. and for decades they suspected that her husband Bill had murdered her after killing Vicki in nineteen Eighty-six. Raider struggled to keep his murderous compulsions under control. Police were starting to make use of DNA evidence by the late nineteen eighties and raider knew he needed to be careful from the late nineteen eighties until the beginning of the nineteen nineties raider tried to fulfil as needs with motel parties, but he could only tamp down his desire to kill for so long on January eighteenth nineteen Ninety-one raider committed his final murder. Once again used one of his son, Brian's boy scout camping trips as a cover. He snuck away from the camp and drove to the house of sixty two year old Dolores Davis, beloved mother and grandmother. He then broke in and strangled her with a pair of pantyhose Reiter dumped Deloris body under a bridge and left a creepy porcelain mask by her corpse. A young boy discovered her d.. Composing body weeks later on February first, the police had no leads in may of nineteen Ninety-one. Raider started a new job as a compliance officer and took delight in handing out citations. Reiter began stalking his neighbor, Barbara Walters of former auditor for the IRS looking for any reason to give her a citation on August third nineteen Ninety-three raider spotted her black dog named shadow in her fenced in yard. He vaulted over the backyard fence and unlock the gate letting the dog run free raider then issued a twenty five dollar fine to Barbara insisting she was the one who had led shadow roam. The neighborhood Barbara realized that raider was aiming to have shadow put down. So she fought his citation in court. Raider brought in an enormous file full of evidence. He had collected on shadow to Barbas, horror Reiter won the case. She appealed to the higher court and was fortunately able to save her dog, but raiders obsessive stock. Of his neighbors continued. He scrutinized every neighbors house and lawn for minor violations even going so far as to measure the grass height of a neighbor too sick and weak to mow his yard. He also continued to go after neighborhood dogs, succeeding in getting a few put to sleep around nineteen ninety four or ninety five Reiter began stalking women again contemplating potential victims, but familial obligations. Soon, inhibited him for murdering his father died in nineteen. Ninety-six and raider became his mother's primary caretaker. All was quiet for nearly a decade. But then in January two thousand four, our reporter released an article about BT k. on the thirty year anniversary of the murders of the Tara family. He described as a killer that few in Wichita even remembered fifty nine year old raider wasn't going to let that stand. It was time. He decided to start up his games with the police. Again, he sent a package to k- aka TV on may. Fourth, two thousand four under the name Bill Thomas Kilman, whose initials spelled out BT k. inside the package was Vicky wiggly's driver's license, which Yvonne detectives realized that this was finally their chance to catch the serial killer. They just needed to draw BT k. out over the course of two thousand four raider sent several more packages to the media reveling in the renewed attention. BT k now received from reporters. He even contemplated upping the ante by murdering at eleven victim in October of two thousand four. But he backed out at the last minute after noticing a construction crew working outside her home raider never named his eleventh intended victim. But his fellow code compliance officer, Mary caps later said in interviews that she believed she was raiders target. Meanwhile, the police continued to coax raider into communicating with them hoping he would make mistake and in February of two thousand five, their plan paid off raider was finding his game with police to be a lot of work, and he was sick of photocopying notes. He figured he could simplify things by sending his taunting messages on a floppy drive. Raider left police a message in a trash bin near a Home Depot in Wichita, the note asked quote, can I communicate with floppy and not be traced to a computer, be honest and quote, per raiders request. The police then left a coded message in a local paper that said, quote, Rex, it will be okay and quote, raider naively assumed the police wouldn't lie on February sixteenth two thousand five. He sent a floppy disk to the local media who turned it over to police by recovering and analyzing the data on raiders disc police figured out they were looking for a man named Dennis who. Who had been using a computer at Christ Lutheran church upon further investigation, they learned that a man named Dennis Rader had just been elected. The church's president investigators wanted to compare the DNA taken from the crime scenes to raiders DNA, but they didn't want to tip him off that they were onto him. Luckily, which toss state university's student health center still had his daughter. Carrie raiders Pap smear on file and detectives, were able to obtain her DNA through a subpoena when investigators compared the crime scene DNA to carries DNA. They found a match the killer was carrie's father, Dennis Rader, Wichita police spied on Reiter memorizing his schedule and on February twenty. Fifth, two thousand five. They arrested him during his lunch hour. Raider was quickly able to guess why they were pulling him over and politely greeted the detectives. However, he later mentioned that he wished he had been able to shoot the cops and escape much. Like JAMES BOND might Reiter confessed as soon as he learned that he has had a positive DNA match. In fact, he later admitted to author Catherine Ramsland that he probably bragged a bit too much yet. Raider insisted that he wasn't a bad person. He told detectives quote, normally, I'm a pretty nice guy. I'm sorry, but I am and quote raider also led police to many of what he called his Heidi holes or places where he stored his trophies. They recovered articles of clothing photos of the victims, bound and gagged and photos raider had taken themselves tied up in wearing his victim's clothing. The evidence against him was overwhelming. In this clip correspondent Josh wells describes what police found after the initial interviews with writer, they obtained a search warrant and found the killer's own crime scene photos and his stash of personal effects. He had taken as trophies from his victims. They also found pages and stories. He had written in detail. Sale to describe his killings. John wells would Utah. Raiders public. Defenders hired psychologist, Robert Mendoza to evaluate raider just in case he wasn't competent to stand trial. Mendoza noted raiders obsession with patterns and numbers his stubbornness, his manipulative tendencies, lack of empathy and narcissistic traits. However, he found raider fully competent, but Reiter decided he didn't want to trial either because he wanted to make things easier for his wife and kids or because he knew he would be convicted regardless on June twenty-seventh, two thousand five. He pled guilty to all ten murders, but the judge didn't wanna let him go so easily. He forced raider to give an account of every single one of his murders to provide closure on these cases as raider confessed his murders. He kept making strange noises with his mouth. The detectives have caught. Reiter were both irritated and humiliated. He was coming off like such a. Bumbling idiot that they feared he was making them look stupid. Nevertheless, raider was sentenced to ten life sentences or one hundred seventy five years minimum. At El Dorado correctional facility, a maximum security prison near Wichita. He still resides there today. Raiders wife, Paula and his two children initially had trouble believing that he was really a serial killer. But after Rader confessed, they were disgusted, horrified and traumatized Paulin never spoke to her husband. Again, raiders adult daughter, Carrie struggle to reconcile her childhood memories of loving attentive father with the loathsome murderer. He really was. She was terrified that she might somehow end up like him. Raider had spent the past decade analyzing and reanalyzing his own psyche. Wondering what drives him to kill. He cooperated on a book about his psychology with author, Catherine Ramsland who believes that raider is dry. Driven by a combination of disturbed sexual needs, a desire to control others and a deep seated wish to be infamous. And in a way he's gotten his wish since his capture in two thousand five raiders name has become infamous, and he was thrilled when Stephen King published a good marriage, a novella inspired by raiders exploits in two thousand ten. However, raider botched almost every murder he planned. He handed police, the evidence, the damned him and while he did achieve infamy during his trial, the name BT k. is already beginning to fade from public memory for all his efforts. Dennis Rader will die in prison, forgotten and alone. Thanks
"dennis rader" Discussed on Serial Killers
"Do to the graphic nature of this killer's crimes. Listener discretion is advised. This episode includes discussions of murder and assault that some people may find offensive. We advise extreme caution for children under thirteen. One night in early January nineteen ninety one sixty two year old Dolores Davis noticed one of her beloved cats pawing at the window as though there was something on the other side of the glass it wanted to catch. She peered out the window but saw nothing. Then another one of her cats caught her eye. He was jumpy on edge like he knew something. She didn't a shiver skittered down her spine. Something was not right Deloris called her son, Jeff. She told him there might be someone lurking outside her home, Jeff assured her nothing was amiss for immagination was getting the better of her. He calmed her fears and said, good night. Of course, Jeff had been mistaken. Someone was outside Delors as window hiding in the darkness just out of sight. And a few days later on January eighteenth nineteen Ninety-one. Dolores Davis became the final victim of the series. Royal killer known as BT k. Hi, I'm Greg Poulsen and this is serial killers today. We're going to continue our deep dive into the life of Dennis Rader who nicknamed himself BT k. find torture, kill. I'm here with my co host Vanessa Richardson. Hi everyone. Many of you have been asking us how you can support the podcast. If you enjoy the show. One of the best ways to help us is to leave a five star review wherever you listen to podcasts while you're there. You can listen to previous episodes of serial killers as well as park casts other podcasts. A new episode comes out every Monday. You can also find us on Facebook and Instagram at par cast and on Twitter at podcast network or in our website podcast dot com. Dennis Rader began his serial killer career in nineteen seventy four. When he slaughtered four members of the tarot family, including two young children, she proceeded to kill six additional victims in Wichita, Kansas. Over the next twenty years murdering his final victim in January nineteen Ninety-one, raider tortured, and strangled helpless women and children to achieve the sexual satisfaction that he noticed about. But murder wasn't all he craved. Reiter wanted to be as notorious as the famous serial killers. He spent his childhood and adult life reading about and raiders desire for fame was ultimately his undoing. Raider spent most of his youth fantasizing about tying up and torturing pretty girls by nineteen seventy four. The twenty eight year old was ready to act. He'd targeted the tarot family after spotting the mother Julie in a car on Murdoch avenue throughout his killing career. The randomness of his murders was one of the reasons. Police had so much difficulty connecting raider to his various crime scenes nearly morning of January fifteenth, nineteen seventy-four raider crept to the terrorist suburban home in Wichita, Kansas. He tied up tortured suffocated and strangled Joe and Giulio tarot as well as their two children. Nine year old, Joey and eleven year old. Josie for raider murder felt like pure heroin. He became obsessed frenzied, even he needed to kill again, Vanessa's going to take over on the psychology here. And throughout the episode, please note, Vanessa is not a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist. But she has done a lot of research for the show. Thanks, Greg psychologist. Joni e Johnston explains that serial killers are somewhat similar to addicts in the way that they give into a compulsion in order to improve how they feel Johnston notes that criminals can become as addicted to their particular form of criminal activity as is a heroin addict to smack or an alcoholic to alcohol, having the same difficulty resisting a crime as a substance abuser does resisting his or her cravings. From the moment raider I tasted blood. Nothing else could truly satisfy him just a few weeks after killing the taros in January of nineteen seventy four raider began hunting women for his next kill, or is he called it his next project. But even as he silently stocked the women of Wichita, he kept up appearances as a doting husband and diligent student at the university of Wichita greater was very good at compartmentalizing his different personas. And like many of the psychopaths we've discussed on this show felt no guilt about lying to his family. In fact, raider spotted his next victim, Catherine bright while he was taking his wife Paula out for lunch in early spring of nineteen seventy four. Kathryn bright was a twenty one year old student at the university of Kansas. She was very close to her four siblings and extended family, and though she lived alone at her suburban house on thirty one twenty seven east thirteenth street, her nineteen year old brother Kevin often came to visit. Raider had a couple reasons for targeting Catherine. She was slim with long blond hair, his preferred type, but raider also targeted Kathryn bright in part because of his obsession with the number three, which he believed was supernatural lucky. Her house was on east thirteenth street and her address thirty one twenty-seven started with a three as well. As we mentioned last week and obsession with rituals involving numbers can be as symptom of obsessive compulsive. Disorder or OCD for someone with the disorder. This can mean that some numbers saved three are good or magical, and some numbers are bad and need to be avoided at all costs. Raider was later evaluated by psychologists. Robert Mendoza Mendoza noted raiders OCD tendencies, but didn't believe they reached a clinical level where they significantly impacted his day to day activities. Raider spent weeks talking, Catherine,
"dennis rader" Discussed on KFI AM 640
"Dot com, keyword movie again for her son to get help. It was then that he felt excited about watching a tract and helpless woman looking to him in terror. Wow. Are you kidding me? That is like textbook goes back to mom and the issues with mom, and the thing is he distinctly remembers that event and can remember what her face looked like when she was trapped, you got pleasure out of that. Weirdos. You what? I mean, you're the one who's like, yeah. I really like watching serial killers. You're sick. I like watching Sirak I'm fascinated by serial killers. And I think it does go back to the. The thinking on that of why women are so into true crime. And this kind of stuff is because somewhere in our in our heads. We want to know how to avoid those people. Yes. And I've I've heard that. And it makes some sense. I mean, you want to make sure that you never get your ring trapped in a couch cushion spring with Dennis Rader next to you. He's not going to save you or take a ride from Ted Bundy, Gary and Shannon. Weekday mornings at ten KFI AM, six forty four stimulating talk. Greg. My dad and third grade. It wasn't doing well in math. So he took me out of third grade and took me to the racetrack. He she'll be had a bet he showed me what they would pay off. And it was all math. I get back to school the next day. And it's show and tell and miss Bernstein says TIMMY, you're up and like oh my God. So I looked at my backpack and I found a racing program. So I take out the racing program. And I show the kids in third grade had a boxing's actor you'd like to three in the seven then go seven three three seven Batum. Both ways in case the seven Windsor three wins. You have it both ways. So she sends me to the principal. The principal calls home and says to my dab, that's borderline child abuse. Teaching your third grader out of box and exacto. And my dad said we'll let me tell you what real child abuses. He has at seven three. It comes in three seven, and he doesn't have it boxed. Now that's child abuse. That's a great start a true stories. Well,.
"dennis rader" Discussed on 790 KABC
"Go to KABC dot com so not long, ago huge news was broken here in the state of California when authorities arrested the alleged Golden State killer man have been on the loose for over four decades killed murdered twelve people Ransacked raped bludgeoned the sky was a nightmare and they got him, with DNA Bravo and this wasn't the. First time that a. Serial killer from that era has been caught years after the killing began Dennis Rader was one. Of the worst that I can think of the grim sleeper the grim, sleeper Yep Yeah it's pretty amazing how that happens in California has. Seen a bunch of them the, freeway killers, were California. Killers Richard Ramirez the nightstop soccer so a lot of. Serial killer killing. Was Florida right, it was, Utah Colorado he was quite the mass serial. Killer but he. Died in Florida becau, because? He killed a twelve year old little girl named Kimberly. Leach I, know everything about serial killers. Andrew Cunanan Andrew Cunanan I don't really. Consider him a serial killer per se I don't know I think yes he. Was but he killed. A. Guy in, a, truck he killed it he wanted for Saatchi right, that's serial killers as Dennis Rader stalked the. Otero family I mean. This family was getting up it was seven thirty in the morning. Little boy lets the dog out raider walks in kills the whole family mother father Josephine was eleven he I mean. I'm, I wish that guy wish they fried his ass but they they don't have, the death penalty? There So he's in jail. Still well one expert says that serial killing is coded into our DNA he's. Filmmaker area investigative historian. And. Author of, the new book sons of Cain history of serial killers, Peter Brodsky, Peter thanks so much for joining. Us Hi thanks for. Having me on Peter you're you're This information is, a little scary because you're saying all, of us we we have it in our DNA? But what's? The, difference between, a John Phillips then Dennis Rader well you know we. Have, to be serial killers before we. Became, civilized Is. This the human species there's been around you know we think perhaps, as long as a million years but, we've only been civilized in the last fourteen thousand years that? We've, developed agriculture, developed cities and began to live kind of an organized Well we think serial killers as people that methodically go out and, and Brookshire innocent people which they are whereas. Back. Then you think well prehistoric, times are came in they didn't to eat to, defend they were, they couldn't even communicate right so they weren't going out schilling. People just for, the thrill of, it not for the thrill of the. Need to okay, and so my argument is is that we all have in our basic psychology our basic makeup we still have that instinct to be able to, do that but, of, course, you know civilization. No longer requires us to do that but? You know, it's only been fourteen thousand years is gonna take, a long time for us to shed that and and so we're essentially born with that ability but good socialization stable parenting good family upbringing Teach us not, to act on those impulses so you know serial, killers for various, reasons that forensic psychologists and psychiatrists are trying to understand they. Have still those, instincts highly developed, in uninhibited so my argument essentially is. Is that all, of us at the infantile stage are unmade as serial killers rather than you know being made into serial killers you believe that we could see, a spike in, serial, killing, why is that Well because you know what. The mystery of for a lot of serial homicide historians this is why did we. Have this surge, of serial, killings in the last three decades of the twentieth century from. Nineteen seventy-two about nineteen ninety nine almost eighty, percent of serial killers made their appearance in. In in in, the United States in that in that century so you're y that period and. We've often societas it with things that were happening. In the sixties you know, the revolutionary nineteen sixties ahead in this took nineteen seventies and so forth the problem is of course, is that serial killers there, is often formed in their childhood sometimes when are as youngest. Five years old If, you look at serial killers not wave with the ten bodies. John Wayne gay sees the green river killer Oh yeah. Green river killer that wasn't he here up in Portland he killed, us prostitutes right that's right forty nine one And, then forget him Jeffrey Dahmer DNA that's right. That's right God bless TNA. Those guys, you've got to realize that. Their fantasies their trauma stuff, may have led them, to? That's to. Those. Fantasies were Formed approximately twenty to twenty five years. Before they started. Killing I. Have a. Question and it's not to. Blame the mom let me tell you, but a lot of them had very strange. Issues with their mothers Lutely And then they started. As a theory for that okay I want to hear that. And then they also, start abusing animals locally in the street when they were kids so yeah What's. Your, theory about the moms so. The month is is that if you have a very dominant mom which many of. Them, have You boys need to go she ate this kind of independence from their mom and so if you have a, overbearing mom is you try to become. More independent, of her and sale in that you develop a. Rage towards not only your mother. But you're the female figure in? General I mean I I can name two serial killers right away let's, kill Rome mothers Edmund Kemper Lucas they both kill Henry Lucas I just read watched the count why that was oh my God, that's horrible the farm right and he had the mother and the yeah oh my God like this boy, how do you want to like don't. You lock your doors and have a double alarm at night when you read this study. This as you Scott because I listened to the. I've I've watched all the documentaries and I've read the book since I grew up in Canada where Clifford Olson was the big serial killer up there and the Canadian, government paid him to tell his you. Know where, the bodies are buried he got paid one hundred. Thousand dollars like thirty. Years ago Big chunk of change Then I also grew up. With the Scarborough rapist I lived in Burlington where he, objected a Leslie Mahaffy Bernardo and Karla Homolka by. The way she's out she has three. Kids with, her, lawyer, her lawyers. Brother disgusting and disgraceful Canadian Justice, is a complete. Joke but I digress you have a. Similar case, in California Charlene gala go exactly what Karla Homolka was released killed many more husbands the Gallegos and she's been out living in San. Francisco doing charity. Work oh my God how do I? Not know this case Charlene Gallego? What's your husband's name I've got the husband's name? But they. Were the legal okay Killed three seven, eleven young girls oh my God, murder I will of course testified against her husband. Of, course still in she's been out, for years, and, years well that's exactly like Carla and they they said oh battered woman syndrome until they found the tapes when they were demolishing. The house that shows that. She was. Alone with the girls she could have helped them she didn't and she's, she's out free disturbing and fascinating stuff is sons of Cain a history. Of serial. Killers from the stone age to. The president tomorrow Peter Brodsky thanks so much, for stopping. By thanks for having me on fascinating stuff Peter thank you I will definitely be getting this book jillions tweet of the, day up next seven ninety. KABC He has dependable traffic when you need it the most the big trouble spots still the eastbound ninety one connector to. The north six zero five. 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"dennis rader" Discussed on 790 KABC
"We'd love it don't miss the drive home live inside tacos into keila june first from morongo casino resort and spa studios right here at seven hundred kabc an inmate on california's death row is no more this is not the same no kidding you know fulfilment i get i was going to ask you how long it takes for death row inmates to get electrocuted or whatever we way down we do that used to be the gas chamber and now it's lethal injection so you don't always fascinates me like i know that state by state there's different death penalty codes but i'll see a guy on death row for killing one person and that's one human life i'm not negating the fact that that's a big deal but then you get dennis rader who killed a family going to school and work that morning and eleven year old girl nine year old boy the mother and father and he's living like i don't understand how we pick and choose because i'm like if you wipe out a family you're you're you're dead like well goodbye sometimes it depends on which county you kill the person in san francisco it's very liberal and so the da runs for office on the platform of i will never impose the death penalty anyone who commits a crime friends up there and they're just like me they're like socially we want every gay person remarried if that's the miserable life they choose news god bless seriously see you at the divorce attorney's office and also when it comes to crime and punishment were really hard to believe in the death penalty i believe in the death penalty one hundred and fifty per cent or you're out of step with those people because they don't like i don't get it this is going to be the first election for governor california.
"dennis rader" Discussed on 790 KABC
"Yeah so about fifteen years ago i went public and as far as they know i think i was the first child of a serial killer to go public and i did so to just start doing advocacy about trauma and breaking down that stigma and since i did that so many other children of ultra violent offenders contact them over the world and i'm hearing their experiences and so on and then my background is in counseling master's degree in counseling and i work with children prisoners but what i found is a lot of children of serial killers in the past would commit suicide like charles manson junior or they would they or they've hiding changed their names like lee harvey oswald kids and what my hope is is that war there's a small percentage that either live privately like adolf hitler yeah this is an awesome guy our power i was going to say his name was not hitler right he changed his name i'm assuming yeah okay and then i just know his work i don't know i'm directly but and then there's tons of people are advocates you know the daughter of the happy face killer melissa more she does crime tuesday on doctor oz doing great thing wow people should be like adolf hitler's my step aside at least speaker joy advocate there's room for that and i was i was on one of the youtube channels had dennis rader daughters talking about a horrible he is and i mean he killed eleven year old girl he he's he killed the whole family the ortega's i commend you jammed for what you're doing and you're just so strong and your mom raised a great girl and we need more voices like you're so that takes the stigma and the shame away because it has nothing to do with we're talking to jim morrison whose an advocate for families you violent offenders and victims of violent crime her dad and her stepmother were convicted serial killers gen when you're looking at these these news accounts of the golden state killer and you see everything that we're reading about right now what was the first thing that popped into your head i was just right when he was arrested i was i was just.
"dennis rader" Discussed on Last Podcast on the Left
"Them that i jeez not nice again that is why i'm not said that he's depressed yeah i'm not saying that he's depressed what a maniac and so no was that a precursor to an attack those calls or was that something that he did afterwards just continually have these people these victims live in fear he did it before and after and it's important this this guy's just such a i mean obviously he's a real jerk thing yeah yeah that's not be overstated but it's reminds me of bt k right we're technically he is a very he did a very thorough job you have to be a type of prick that can do it so consistently well that you don't get caught like a part of it's like you have to be so exacting very military like he did it again again apparently everyone said that joseph james dangelo himself was a real fucking for which does not right ryan me that's like dennis rader also same thing where they said he was a real asshole also fucking shows that you can do all these crimes so he got married somewhere on nineteen seventynine his first kid in eighty one the crime stopped and then the second murder happened in eighty six and then he had his second daughter in like eighty seven and then it stopped it fucked up way it shows that a serial killer congess stop being a serial killer which is totally fascinating right because usually we would happen to be k and it didn't happen to the angelo again he was caught with ancestry dot com btk threw himself back into the ring well he was dale of seventy one was talking about yeah he he couldn't stand anybody taking credit for his fucking super clever murders this guy is such a pricked at some point that he got it out of his system and then he just let it all go that's if everything whole crazy now we're at a point where it's like we're going to see whether or not this devi dna evidence can even hold and now it's going into like is.
"dennis rader" Discussed on KCBS All News
"That these crimes happened between seventy six and eighty six and if you believe what you're watching these tv crime shows people don't just stop doing these things how would you explain the gap between eighty six and eighteen well i simple i think it was dna i the first case to ever be solved with dna evidence was nineteen eighty nine but we knew in the years leading up to that case the dna was going to factor into into crime and into solving crime and i think this man you know you look at his the way he the way he stalked his victims and meticulously planned everything he was very intelligent and i think he saw the writing on the wall and realized that he could no longer do these things and get away with in fact he probably knew then that eventually this was going to catch up with him and i think it scared him so much that's my opinion that he saw a technology coming down the pike and and stopped that's such an interesting theory is good as any as i suppose but when you look at a guy that's capable of doing this i think it would be amazing that he could stop himself right that did he had that presence of mine and control to say oh i'm i'm going to get caught by this i better stop right you know another another thing that could have happened here is is like dennis rader of the serial killer he we know he had a family we know he was married we know he has two daughters so that might have factored into where there just wasn't time and there were more people paying attention to what he was doing but one thing i do want to make clear is you know we can't give up credit to michelle mcnamara who wrote this book i'll be gone in the dark about this case and i certainly was the pressure that that book put on local law enforcement and police that that really i think drove to the final conclusion and gave it to push it made it interesting james render thanks so much for your perspective again mr renner and investigative journalist and true crime reporter kissidougou has news time four twenty five now from the small business pulse bay area when starting your business higher generalists who can cover cost functional roles and as your business matures you can then hire more specialists for more tips go to small business pulse dot com slash bay area sponsored by canopy health.