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Earth Day & Data Science - Kathleen Rogers, President of Earth Day Network

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Earth Day & Data Science - Kathleen Rogers, President of Earth Day Network

"We have fallen heir to the most glorious heritage people ever received. And each one must do his part. If we wish to show that the nation is worthy of its good fortune. Those are the words of teddy Roosevelt president of the United States from nineteen o one to nineteen nine. He made conservation a national issue by creating the US forest service and protecting public lands and wildlife when he created the national parks bird reserves and national forests some argue that the modern day environmental movement. However started with the first Earth Day in nineteen seventy and here we are entering the fiftieth anniversary that is amazing. What a long strange trip it's been especially when the first earth they started. There was no Environmental Protection Agency. That was created by president Nixon today. More than one billion people were the be participate in. Earth Day activities in one hundred and ninety two countries around the world, whereas the environmental movement today. It is a law is it aligned with the green new deal today. We're going to find out from the president of Earth Day network organization behind. Welcome to green connections radio where we bring insights and tips from remarkably innovative women about corporate responsibility, energy and sustainability related issues. We talk about innovation leadership technologies and careers always bringing a new perspective. I'm John Michaelson. Find us anywhere you like to listen to podcasts on our website, green, connections, radio dot com and through my Forbes blog as well. And please pass it on to your friends. If you want to gain insight from more women like me, and our -ccomplish guests. Join one of our mastermind groups, we'll help you with contacts resources, strategies, ideas and tips to save time and money as you grow your career or your business. No matter what industry here in. I'd like you to meet Kathleen Rogers, the longtime president of her stay network started in part by Dennis Hayes who organized the very first Earth Day and still sits on the board of thin networks today. Kathleen, began her professional career as an environmental attorney, including chief wildlife counsel for the national Audubon society. And so has lived the rich history of the modern day environmental movement herself full disclosure I worked for Kathleen and Earth Day network a few years ago. I'm delighted to say that Kathleen joins us live today at or they networks offices in Washington DC, I interviewed Kathleen several years ago when I very first started green connections radio. And since so match has changed and the environmental we movement we face today has completely reinvented itself. And we face the fiftieth anniversary earthy it was time to bring her back. Welcome back to green connections radio. Kathleen. And thank you for joining us. It's great to see you. Thank you for having me. You're welcome. You're welcome. So I'll yell university study reported this year that quote six and ten Americans are now either alarmed or concerned about global warming. And that the proportion of alarmed people more than doubled in five years. However, only thirty eight percent are discussing it. According to the study seventy seven zero percent said environmental protection was more important than economic growth, which was really interesting to me might be reflected in the low on employment rate. I don't know sixty eight percent said corporations should do more to address global warming. Sixty two percent said congress should do more and sixty five percent since citizens should do more. So let's start there. You're so interesting to talk to you about this because you've been on the front lines of it for so long. What has been the catalyst for the changes in this perception in what you know? There was a time when when those numbers were really really low, right. And you've lived through this. So what's been the catalyst in igniting, the broader environmental movement and changing those numbers to where they are to their well, like a sort of approach it from two perspectives that what the statistics you just read were positive, and I think whether you're talking about climate change or seatbelts or tobacco. It takes a long time for people to change their minds about either their personal behavior or were more writ large what they think about the world. And so I'd say the reason those numbers have increased, and I'm heartened by them is because the issue has been in the news, it's finally digestible to the general public. We've had almost two generations since the first Earth Day who have lived with a different definition of the environment, which we can get back to the second. And so I think it just takes people time particularly Americans time to absorb this actually change. The numbers are good. But I'd answer. It a second way. Those numbers are not translating into voting and unless we put candidates in office with strong environmental records, and I don't mean. Okay. Environmental records. I mean. Serious informed platforms and ideas for solving the climate crisis or our exposure to toxics or protecting species. Then those attitude changes are great. But we need to see them in two places. Number one is the voting booth and no matter what country we look at and we're global we're not seeing environment climate energy in the top five issues that are driving politicians and that clues the. And Secondly, they need to vote with their pocketbooks. So we need voters who put their commitment to lowering the car their own carbon footprint both in their homes their offices in their conversations. And then we need to take those values and ideas and beliefs to the voting box because until that happens, we could see one hundred percent of Americans believe in climate change is real, but nothing will change. So we just had a big wave election and men a about one hundred women were elected to congress some of them, including all Alexandra Cossio Cortez have supported environmental stuff. She of course, starting the movement for green new deal. But. She the so there is some of that. And of course, I think it's Jan's leave from the state of governor Washington is running on that platform as opposed to agile candidate. We don't know what his likelihood is of getting through the process, but it puts it front and center. So what percent of the people though, and you and I've talked about this. We'll get a little more into the women thing in a minute. But what percent of the of the wave of people who were elected last, November support environmental causes and issues. I mean, one of the things that I noticed which kind of freaked me out was as much as we. The environmental movement in particular. And yes, my own bias wanted the Democrats to have control of the house for many reasons, many of the publicans that lost on the bipartisan climate caucus, and so they are being replaced by you know, how does that work? Right. So how does the new congress maybe is a better way to phrase it support climate issues? Have you seen are there more and they're less? So on the Senate side, the hope of moving legislation on any environmental issue. I don't care if it's funding to save endangered species or environmental education or spending money at the FDA or EPA or anywhere else to really look at the impacts of toxics on children all of those. Programs and campaigns inside the government are declining or not keeping pace with the need. And so we need to have a house and Senate aligned on of our mental issues because it's good for the earth. Let's just stipulate to that. But more important. It's good for our pocketbooks the energy revolution will dwarf, the technology revolution. That's out. Big energy is why are we handing this to other countries with terrible environmental records with badly practices when we could own. Here's a nice communist term, the means of production. We need to own this and not end up making little umbrellas for our drinks. We need to create systems we need to build a broad based industry. That's green itself. And we need to look at every single part of our conomy like we did in the eighteen fifties. And say the same thing the leaders did back, then we want a reorienting community reorient commerce reorient families. So that we're on top because I want to keep America on top. And we're having hard time doing it when we have such backwards people running it, and I'll tell you a story, which I found really super interesting if you don't mind now, go ahead. So I was on the internet. The other night, and I was looking at the industrial revolution. 'cause my great great. Grandfather was a well known inventor and really interesting person. And so it was my grandfather and great interest in the industrial revolution. So I read a lot of books about it. I was reading an article about the chairman of the board of Studebaker. Remember the company, well, they made horse and buggies back. Then I mean carriages horse about he's so they gathered a number. I found the minutes from a meeting and in extrordinary group, they gathered the other buggy makers around to talk about the car. And in these meetings drafted the head of Studebaker said we need to move on. We need to look at the cars, if it's real the automobile and assume I wasn't there in the room. But you get this looking at the minutes as if they're bunch of people shaking their heads. No. And so interestingly of all the big buggy manufacturers stew. Baker was the only one that survived and they went on to make a car. Now the not around today, but I find this such an amazing story just by reading the minutes of this meeting. You pick up a lot in and sort of figure it out that were in the same position in the twenty first century where you have a bunch of people in the oil and gas industry and everywhere else sitting around table shaking their heads saying now we can drag this out for the week keep our horse and buggies for another couple of decades. And the only one that will be left is the one that changes. And they know there's plenty of oil around burn. But the rest of the world is moving past them. And if they don't knock it off, then we're going to be a really terrible situation within the next two decades. And I think we're all agreed. But I most of all on a see the United States get it in internalize it and start investing the way other countries are worldwide, China, big countries, Japan other countries that are investing incred. Will research dollars in looking for the next generation source of energy. And that's what I hope for America the most on Earth Day. Well, appreciate that and many much of the private sector's doing this. I mean, our mutual friend jigger Shaw says it's the the International Energy Agency, actually quotes. He quotes them that it's ten tween dollar economic opportunity and the private sector is doing this. I mean, they're saying look the market is going. I don't, you know, the ministration in this was one of gonna talk to you about, but the administration may be deregulating in deregulating deregulating because they're in the pockets of the fossil fuel industry, but even the oil companies are diversifying into energy storage and renewable energy cetera. And there's all kinds of innovation going on. I mean, eighty s energy global partnered with semen instant form fluence on energy storage. I mean, there's amazing Ovation's going on so, and of course, so many stays it's twenty. States fifty cities have circumvented the administration signed onto the Paris accord. So I hear what you're saying. And I totally agree with you. I also think that there is some hope in the private sector. No, I would say it's not that. I don't have hope in the private sector. They're doing a lot but markets send signals based on government interest and investment, the language of the environmental movement is changed. You know, the the days of Rachel Carson and Dennis starting Earth Day. We talked about environmental protection one way. Now, we talk more about global warming though. I love Tom Friedman's phrase global weirding and climate change. So how has how does the way we talk about it work or not work? It's not what we say it who who says it. And so what earthy network has done is create a gigantic network. Where network by definition, we're not some big environmental group that has agreed Genda, but speaks to its path a million to a million members were billion people strong and all we've do every year and every day is open the doors to more people to join it and the population kind about. Strips our efforts in many ways the growth, but that was your billion acts of green initiative to. Yeah. We're over a billion people that took actions where I think we're close to two. Yeah. Two on your website, close to posted two billion or whatever it is I stopped keeping track my favorite, by the way, was I have to say this for your audience, my favorite active. Green was the guy who broke up with his girlfriend. They were getting married because she absolutely flat out refused to recycle. And he decided broke off the engagement and wrote to us and asked us if we would count that as an act of green. Oh, I love that. I'm still trying to track down the ever find somebody else. And I have my billion active green t shirt and buttons. It's it's a great campaign. You know? So the spokespeople for that. We have thousands. Tens of thousands of groups on our network him. We have evangelical and we have the Sikhs in. We have the pope in. We have the Red Cross, and we have the scouts. I mean, we rely on those people because the world is just so big to be the messengers for all this. And they all give the message in a different way. I just had just met someone who's from the international evangelical was in our office minute ago, and we talked about their how they message this and their way of messaging it for the eight hundred million people that are part of their fates is much more important how they message than whatever I'd say and not only that I can't hit everybody on her. So I call it the Tom Sawyer of the environmental movement. We get other people to paint our fence. We don't do it ourselves. We don't even believe in doing it ourselves because we believe in building the capacity of other organizations to own this. And so that's Earth Day in a nutshell is so you're kind of. Organizer community organizer writ large? Yeah. I'm hundred ninety two countries, but every country's different and you have to understand to the best your best ability because a lot of cultures including our own are pretty impenetrable for people who aren't from here or there. And so you have to really let the messengers be endemic local because they'll tell their story their own way. I mean we and they'll reach people who listen to them. I mean, they're going to be they're going to be able to reach people that you can't reach simply because their local it's like anything else, you you're creating the lions to leverage their network, but also leveraged their voice, and let them tell let them tell their story. I mean, honestly, I can't tell you what it'd be like for me to get up until twenty four million Sikhs in the around the world what they should be doing or how they should say it it needs to come from them. We really as a model we below believe in. However you define local but ownership by the communities, and we really some groups work by demographics. Right. Eighteen to twenty four year old or under thirties or senior citizens or whatever we work by -ffiliated so much rather have the head of the boy scouts girl scouts or the Sikhs or whatever communicating their version of our message the way we develop it to their audience. And so the more they do at the better. And in that going back to the numbers you had from is at the pew report or yell at great place. Great report is we honestly feel that the messenger is critical and it. Shouldn't be the environmental community holding court or whole or controlling it. The more we disseminate it through people and leadership the better off. We'll be an I really give credit to all those other groups other than my own community. I mean, I like to Patterson on the back occasionally around Earth Day after all, but I really do believe that the other groups out there that have carried the water for the environment community of Donna bang-up job, and that could include companies there couple companies that make me wanna cry. I mean, if you're not going pro, well, no putt wiser their crate Super Bowl ad of the horses. Pulling and the solar in the background for me. Like hit the nail right on the head. You've got the most common beer in the whole world. Probably and traditional American. Budweiser drank college, I've moved up the ladder a little bit. Sorry, bug wiser. But it was a great at it was animals landscapes and people. It was awesome. By the. I was in Budweiser adding college that's another story. I'll tell you. We're not. And I don't even drink beer. I don't like it one of the communities that you have partnered with that I really love. Speaking of getting the message out is the arts community. So you have you've had an artist for the earth for as long as I can remember and. And that's so critical because it gets the message across in obviously, a creative way but in a completely different way. So having you talk about artists for the earth. And and how your leveraging the arts community to get this message out, and maybe something that's going to be unique about earth. Fifty. So we have a couple of major programs arts for the earth is one of them because whether it's in the United States, India, China young people. People are swayed by two things messengers and culture. And so we've devoted a lot of attention to develop relationships with museums orchestras street artists high school bands visual artists, poets architects, cartoonists you name it and we've begun this sort of long-term process and so art's for the earth is a major component of the fiftieth anniversary. We have a great relationship with the Smithsonian and all of their museums will be doing all seventeen of their Zia GMs zoo and botanical gardens everybody will be doing something for the fiftieth anniversary. We convened about one hundred museums in DC from all around the world, they came as far as Egypt and India everywhere because they were all interested in promoting environment and concepts round nature, depending on the museum could be science attack or natural history or fine arts, but they're all doing something for the fiftieth anniversary gun this scrape. Process. We have orchestras that are committing to playing music around the world, we have a relationship with Beethoven's family because his anniversary of the pastoral symphony is in twenty twenty my birthday, by the way, that's great piece of music. And so we hope to have as many artists as we possibly can. And we're getting the most wonderful number of people that want to turn their towns. Plastic into a giant art display for the fiftieth anniversary at or again, playing music twenty four hours in a row. But we knew though is at a civic component to all of this. So here's my belief. I'm a big I like to watch you know, nature films. Right. We all do, but you know, after thirty forty years of nature films species are massively in decline and people aren't voting for it. We've gotta try if you're gonna do culture, then you have to get the. Right people talking. So Hello Kim Kardashian. Can you please tweet or talk about the environment and get people engaged in this arts for the earth is about reaching, you know, five hundred million people, but also connecting that message to a civic act. How do you do that? It can be a petition. It could be it could be a phone call. It could be tweeting. It can be any form of communication that will scare leaders. Let me tell you something about the first day that I know not because I was there about because read so much about it. You had a paranoid president. You had a president that really responded to things and for all the things Richard Nixon may have done wrong environment wasn't one of them. But the first Earth Day scared the crap out of excuse, my language and EPA was created three months later because when you see twenty million people out on the street, and by the way that had any normal cultural. Ponant music and art and everybody got into the act, and as I said cartoonists everybody got into the act, and there was this big giant period of of of energy around environmental issues. And that's what we're trying to do for the fiftieth because deep down inside Cubans are good, and what they need to do is step out of their what they do day to day and getting gauged, and so we really need to use the arts in order to engage them when we work in India weet. This is the truth. I don't care what kind of event I'm doing in. India? We have a ton of people working there sitting on a thousand years of really crappy coal, and if they burn it it's all over for all of us. And so it's terrible Cole, but every single meeting we do in India and China and everything begins with a cultural art event. We there dancers their performances, and I don't care what country we're in. We don't start a serious event in a community or with the government, unless there's culture involved, and their countries that really respond to understand culture messages through culture, including our own that we have to try, and so that's why arts for the earth is such a central component of the fiftieth anniversary. So are you intentionally starting each of the vents in different countries? And with the with an arts component. Or are you doing this independently? No, we didn't make up this idea. We got the idea from the cultures that were communicating with. So if you're we have thirty seven people working in India right now and over there dead body what we go into a sit down meeting without some cultural activity. I don't mean our office. I mean in a community in village in the town, we're running they put together cultural things which breaks down barriers and gets everybody to relax or whatever. That's how you do. It's not something we made up because we rely as again, a network by definition on our community people that tell us how to get it done. The worst thing we can do in our communities going with a plan and our own plan. That's not developed by the local community, and you see this happen over and over again in my community, that's marketing one on one because they know their audience. I love this on your website. I saw the earth science twenty twenty challenge which again ties in with your fifty aniversary like everything does right now, which makes complete sense, but tell me about your doing collaborations with the Williams Wilson center as I saw the video on day to the State Department and tons of other or from what I understand, and you can deliberate on this. But it's collecting data from citizen scientists so tell us about that. And and who is engaging with it? And frankly, what kinds of questions I understand you people were submitting questions of what they wanted investigated. Right. And. There's a few people I can talk to you about who might be climate science climate data scientists who might be interesting to loop with this. But what what are the kinds of things you're finding through this who is participating what's the initiative, and what kinds of questions they ask you. Okay. So let's back up to the principal, which is as the world. Science is. Being attacked in. No country is affinity for belief in trust in science going up. It's either staying steady or declining and every country really not in every country, but most countries, but nobody's no countries. Are pulling numbers moving up up there. Either staying steady or declining particularly in the United States, which is an important country. Say yeah. And well depends on who you're talking to these days. And so we learned a lot about this from we ran the March science DC and other places and really got involved with scientists globally. And so we discovered from talking lots and lots of science groups that there giant holes in science giant holes in everything whether it's cancer or or Bola or whatever it is that. Need to be filled and that more and more. Scientists are hoping citizens. Scientists are going to get engaged and fill those gaps because scientists got a handful of scientists compared to the global population. But you have everybody's potential citizens sites. I heard an interesting thing the other day, for example, the CDC and other people are working with Google because they get better information about what people are searching for. So all of a sudden, everybody community getting sick or no some sick as searching, fever, rash, whatever. And so you'll see this big mushrooming of in a community of concern. The that kind of function is what we're trying to produce and create a bunch of different things. The first thing is we're trying to enlist about five hundred million citizens scientists in this pride hundred million least, and there will be varying degree of success in terms of science, and I'll get back to that in a second. But more important, we're trying to engage kids and college kids and seniors. And everybody else getting out in their community and feeling like they're part of something big scientists need info. They don't need the kind of junk, frankly, that I would probably produce. If I went out and took photos. I'm not the world's best photographer. My kids won't even let me take pictures of them. Strangers to take the phone out of my hand and take the picture. I'm so bad. So. Anyway. So I we joined together with a bunch of science groups globally. It's going to include the UN people. I mean what a pops. So we I put together a giant set of global organizations, and then a huge set of citizen science groups. So first of all we are building the largest open source citizen science database in the world. Many many citizens. Science groups will upload their data onto this platform. We will use software to translate all the different programs that people use will have multi ladder, a multi-layered data from thousands and thousands of groups and governments all like one stop shopping for science. And then in addition rebuilding five to seven apps based on research questions that twelve teams of scientists have put together worldwide on what the gaps in science are. So he's always people who ask for information or these scientists who determine where the gaps are. So we went to huge number science groups, we found representatives from lots and lots of science groups. So let's say we have thirty five well-known scientists from around the world that specialize in air, and they got together and they're part of an ongoing research team that will determine what in air quotes. Pretty is most needed and out of that we will develop an application that people will download and participate in over the course of twenty twenty I'll give you an easy one. So we know insects and pollinators bees are in terrible decline almost worldwide now threatens the whole ecosystem. So the scientists came back and said insects are declining worldwide. And we wanna look at two things one of which was pollinators pollinators is fun. So we are going to create an app that would allow people to download this app. Whether it doesn't matter what kind of phone, you have and phones are ubiquitous trust me. They're everywhere even in me Amar and refugees. They're all had so smartphones. So we've we will develop these apps over the course of the year with we have Amazon involved in. Twitter. I mean, huge companies are involved in helping us figure this out. And so we will have people worldwide downloading the apps, I'll give you a simple one. Let's say taking a picture of a pollinator could be could be some other species. We give them a list, they take a photo more than half of it won't be usable. Because I was behind the camera people like me wouldn't come out right there, certainly take pictures, but we will also have artificial intelligence looking at these photos and interpreting them and solving the Kathleen Rogers crisis of being talk for and we'll create usable data out of that that will be uploaded on the other half of the database so half the database will be aggregated citizen science around five or six areas they include air water health. So the W H O super interested in having some health parameter. Insects plastics and one or two others. And so these apps become incredibly sophisticated. Let's let's go through this. So let's start at the beginning. So somebody takes a picture of the picture of a B or they take a picture Saint. Yes. And then what did they do? They loaded onto the database, and then what happened gets validated through artificial intelligence that. It's it's geo tagged and validated. And then it is included in the database, and then scientists will have access to that. So if for example, you had a thousand kids taking pictures in an area of India of pollinators that information, which will be distilled out of some good stuff, some bad stuff and will become an important piece of information about pollinators in that particular area people who are specialists in that will then be able to work on that or send a team out to look at it. And I problems because they all know what they're looking for scientists know what we're looking for. We're supply. Lying the data. They'll pick and choose among the data that comes out the best. And then they'll be able to do additional research. They always scientists. They drive me crazy always have to verify and send other teams out. But it's a great source of data that will start conversations between scientists around the world. Well, and it also might validate or invalidate is a case may be other research. They have currently going on every time somebody uploads data. They will get a pop up of something related to that. So if you uploaded an insect, for example, and it'll be more narrow than just an insect it. Okay. If you a education piece about that species and will in your own language or one of the UN line, which is trying to sort through that. And we'll also get you eight pop of what you can do a one click letter to your government, saying protect insects is what we found in sex or decline in X country. And so we're have teams of people. Now, researching the big our mental issues surrounding. These six to eight research questions at the scientists have come up and also coming up relying on the local community. So let's say pollinator groups in Tanzania that are concerned about these. They will come up of what they think the most effective. What you can do is. So it won't be me deciding what has to be the people the people. Whoever head of pollinator groups in Tanzania will say okay for this particular one we want everyone in Tanzania uploads a picture of pollinator to write a letter making this up, but write a letter to government saying get rid of this pesticide or don't allow this group to do this. Or stop cutting, the rainforest whatever it is and protect the ecosystem of pollinators, and it's very a political agnostic about outcomes, but the education what you can do. I think will be really helpful cool. I love this. I talk about this for a long time. One of the things we sort of touched on this a little bit. But one of the most important issues that you, and I share spoke on women and women's role in the in the environmental movement and the green economy in general wanting economic parody and wanting women engaged and celebrating women women's actions in this women make eighty five percent of consumer purchases. And as I sort of mentioned before or mentioned briefly before the fiftieth anniversary of Earth Day also corresponds to the centennial of the nineteenth amendment. So when you're putting together the Earth Day fifty initiative, and maybe the the big celebration on the mall, wherever you're going to do it are you tying in the nineteenth amendment. How are you? How are you looping in the women's peace into that and talk about maybe the wage award that you give out women in the green economy, by the way to recap the Calvin on my show. She saw that everybody. Worldwide is conscious of this relationship between women's leadership and success on environmental issues. We think longer term were mostly collaborative. They're just things about us that make us. Good negotiators. Good. I mean, the whole range of things. So when I'm traveling worldwide. I mean, there's certain cultures you go to the Middle East. There just aren't any women or very few a few other places where their pockets of resistance or backwardness, whatever you wanna call it, you know, but increasingly. I'm surrounded by women leaders and the conversation is really different. But again, the whether you're talking about governments mostly men mostly men, just look at the g twenty line the pictures or Mazen or if you did g one hundred if there was such a thing it would be the same situation. They're almost not. And then you line up the fortune five hundred and they're almost none. And that you line up the NGO community big group leadership and they're not. I mean, they're very few of us. And so, but when you get down to grassroots level where we're working because we really believe in local control and believe in getting them money. Right. That's critically important, that's entirely important. Then you start to see tons of women, and you were really doing the work and the those'll of middle management level or the Tana women tear. Tana women tear it so, but we really need to build parody. It's not about you know, it's it's absolutely not about fifty fifty and not what I'm driving. It's about opinion. It's about thinking about including people with different points of view. But as long as we see those lineups. Now, this is almost twenty twenty right? And what is it? One hundred twenty how many years for the women's one hundred one hundred hundred nineteen twenty twenty nineteen twenty. This year too. But yeah. So what the heck right? Exactly. It's insane. It's insane before let you go. What is one thing that people listening can do today on earth? Jay to take a stand for the environment. What is if you could ask me to do one thing? What would be super easy? It's commit to the greenest candidate you can period for any office. Not just more office board of supervisors school districts. Mayors. City councils and start watching them and ask questions and tweet at candidates in. It's all about politics. It's the truth. It is the truth. We've got the technology. We've got the capacity we have brilliant people in this country. But I don't wanna end this on pessimism believe in human beings. And what they can do to save the earth, particularly with cool. I love I love it. So thank you so much for joining us today on green connections radio. Kathleen Rogers, president of Earth Day network. Thank you so much for what you do every day. I mean, I know you I've known each other quite a while now. But I really do appreciate the way you type things together. And the the difference you're making you do you make it easy because you're so easy to talk to. So I hope I didn't say anything to radical. That'll get me in trouble. But it's always nice to be with you. Thank you so much. So what did you? Due to protect the environment today. And what are you going to do to protect the environment? Tomorrow do environmental issues affect your consumer choices. Maybe who you work for what kind of job you have tweeted to us at Joan Michael center posted on our Facebook page, and like the page while you're there and asked to join our private Facebook group or Email to us at info at green connections radio dot com. Find us online on itunes Spotify. I heart radio tune in Stitcher end, our website, and wherever you like to listen to your favorite podcasts. If you want to gain insight for more women like us. 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Nancy Fletcher on the Thomas Case, Women in OOH and Mentors

The Billboard Insider Podcast

27:04 min | 1 year ago

Nancy Fletcher on the Thomas Case, Women in OOH and Mentors

"Hi, I'm Dave Westbrook. And you're listening to the billboard insider podcasts where I interview industry leaders about trends impacting the US out of home advertising business. This podcast is sponsored by Adam de had Omni the easy way to sell billboards online out of home in your hands. Today's guest is Nancy Fletcher Nancy has been president and CEO of the out of home advertising sociation of America or oh, triple eight for twenty eight years, she has a BA an MBA from the university of Minnesota and a JD from Hamlin school of law. She started her out them career in one thousand nine hundred seventy eight with nuclear outdoor advertising in the twin cities. Welcome to the show, Nancy. Ago and congratulations on your new podcast. Thank you so much. Nancy the old AAA recently changed its name from the outdoor advertising sociation of America to the out of home advertising association of America. I think semantics matters can you explain the change, sir. I'd be delighted it was Tom Norton of Norton outdoor Cincinnati who suggested this changed last October at the AAA executive committee meeting. He thought it would be better to keep pace with changes that have taken place in media and the marketplace for most people the term outdoor has come to be the definition for billboards and out of home is the definition for the overall medium. That includes billboards transit displays street furniture displays in place based out of home. So it was Tom who said it's time to make this change. And then the AAA blah. Board agreed with him. So the name change, basically reflects oh Tripoli's mission to represent all the different out of home. Formats static end digital that display messages outside the home. Most people won't see a very big difference though. Because the the well known acronym. Oh, AAA remains the same as does the logo. As does the important mission of the AAA. Recognizes a world where Nancy I think now one in ten dollars come from digital place based advertising almost a third of the out of home market consists of place based or transit and seems like a lot of transit is not strictly outdoors. It may be in transit station or inside a bus or in one airport. So it seems to recognize an expansion in in a new part of the Mark Larson also a clarification because if that transit might be inside, but it is always outside the home or away from home. Correct. Nancy you've announced you'll be retiring from the old AAA at the end of two thousand nineteen after leading the association for almost three decades. What have been the industry's biggest accomplishments over your tenure? That's a that's a big question day fifty words or less. Well, let's just start with because of this change in the in the name of AAA. I think the industry today is meeting the expectations of its moniker out of home. It's diverse. It's omni-present. It really can't be missed if you're away from home, and it's really an integral or core aspect of any really effective ad campaign. Over these last almost thirty years. I think the industry has reinvented itself today. It's data rich. It's measured has an exciting variety of out of home formats that are digital or static in in that time out of home. Revenues tripled. Why other traditional media is declining? At also like to talk about the government affair side, the industry over the last three decades has done an effective job of turning what were government and community skeptics into many case. Actual partners of the industry. We won that importance fight for just compensation on Capitol Hill, and then took it out to all of the states all forty six states that have billboards now have just compensation protection for state roads. We beat back a statewide referendum in Missouri. That would have spread to other states than we would have been having that fight if we hadn't been successful. We achieved a green light for digital billboards in rolled out a regulatory framework that is working at the federal level, and at the state level we won a court challenge. Then when scenic America was unhappy with that regulatory framework in tried to stop digital billboards via litigation we were successful in that court challenged by the AAA intervening on behalf of the industry over this time, period. We also have forged a lot of new partnerships with government entities like the FBI. And FEMA and the National Center for missing and exploited children to deliver emergency messages as well as new public partnerships with organizations that promote the arts promote conservation, promote national parks and save endangered species. A lot of those folks thirty years ago might have been skeptics about the out of home industry. And in fact, we're working right now on a partnership with Earth Day Earth Day next year will Mark its fiftieth anniversary, and it's often thought of as the birth of the modern environmental movement in nineteen seventy when Dennis Hayes founded Earth Day in we're working on a program with them for this April twenty second and then also next year during the fiftieth anniversary. There's been a shift in the governor agencies doing out home as something that needs to be regulated a nuisance to something that can be a resource it can help find a missing child like you say it can help publicize a local community event. It can get out as happened in California. Fires critical public safety messages. Exactly went that. Awful bombing happened in Boston during the Boston marathon, the media was there working with FEMA telling people where to go the medium is really responding almost within the minute when it's needed. Nancy is there a search going right now to replace you and what characteristics? Do you think are will be needed for the next president of the old AAA to help the industry thrive? Lost a search is in the works for the next presidency. Eel the AAA it's being led by a search committee. That's made up of members of the ultra Blake -secutive committee chaired by AAA chairman. Sean Reilly of labar and supported by consultant Raskin and company of the search committees actually planning to conduct interviews in late March. So the time is ripe now for your listeners to make any recommendations for the next leader of the AAA someone wanted to do that, please send me an Email. I'll make sure that it gets to the committee entered the consultants involved the profile for the next president is based on work that was done last year through a broad cross section of interviews. That were conducted. With lots of industry stakeholders in twenty eighteen the search right now is focused on a media veteran who would have the vision, N passion and can help guide the industry in this changing, especially digitally focused landscape. Heffer talk about some key challenges impacting now home industry right now. Sure, I mean, I think an overriding thought is that whenever you ask someone about challenges is to put it in perspective and main challenge for all businesses, certainly all media, including out of home is change. And we're seeing change in. How the information moves were seeing change in how people move in. We're seeing change in how advertisers are connecting to consumers. I think the out of home media industry is well positioned for the future, but underneath that big umbrella of change. There are some things happening that we need to keep an. I on and keep working with over time. And one of those will be the use of data while respecting privacy. Ultimately, I think respect for privacy is something that we're gonna see as good business practice for all businesses. Not just out of home media companies and end, our advertisers. And in the broad scheme of the data world in the advertising world out of home is is a small user of the data compared to other media formats, but our products are extremely visible privacy. Looks like it will be an increasingly emerging political issue with the recent enforcement in new enforcement in Europe, and California has a new law that is poised to take effect next year will even think it's possible that privacy could come up during the debates in the primaries for the presidential campaign for twenty twenty. The outer home industry has made progress on self-regulation our challenges to stay ahead of the privacy debate. But so far the auto industry has updated its code of industry principles and has developed guidelines to respect privacy. Much take a pause right here. For a message for our sponsor add on the increases your billboard review by selling unsold ad space at talked on whether you have watch fire for Medco or Detrick billboards add on the Isley to Brits, get started selling and as little as one business day on the fastest growing out of home network of over sixty thousand digital screens. Visit a Dombi dot com or call eight four four AD. Oh, m n I to speak with an ad on the billboard specialist mentioned. This billboard inside a podcast received one free year of add on these white labelled booking engine on your website. Nancy what else is out there? What other big challenges are there for the industry? Well, we have a big case before the six circuit court of appeals. That's the call that Thomas case in it asks whether billboard law is constitutional for free, speech reasons, the case. Comes out of Tennessee. And it's important because it may actually make its way all the way to the US supreme court, our stake, the industry stake in this case is nothing less than the protection of property rights that are included in the current law and the high beautification act in the mirror laws, we expect a ruling from the US six circuit court of appeals later this year. So stay tuned on that one. That to me it's sort of like, you're better with the w the w tone. If for whatever reason Thomas overturns, the entire federal regulatory uprise is the risk that everything's up for potential negotiation and for being rewritten. So we have a we have regulatory scheme that seems to work in his predictable. And it would just throw things into chaos, and who knows what could emerge that is a possibility. The Thomas case itself revolves around the Tennessee did your -cation near act. And so is the six circuit does something it would affect Tennessee. And also the other states in that circuit. But if it ultimately would go to the US supreme court to the supreme court would say that that language is unconstitutional for free, speech reasons, we then would have to go in to figure out how to repair that. And that would lead us to the high beautification act in the great balance in the high beautification. Act that was constructed in the sixties was to say that billboards would be in commercial and industrial areas where other business takes place and government. If you want to remove those billboards you have to pay just compensation for them. And so it could upset that balance that has been in place for several decades attribution has been a big focus for the AAA want. You talk about attribution issues. Yet attribution research is important to our marketers. It helps them to understand how out of home impacts their objectives or their KPI's. We have research underway right now with a grocery brand and a quick service restaurant brand that attribution research will be released at the conference in may. And then will be doing additional attribution studies in the future. We wanna have a whole menu of these in. Disaster bution main basically being able to prove a link between the actual billboard ad an-and outcome exactly for instance, in out of home message, one type or another or a format one type or another may do better with a clear call to action man, a certain campaign might do better driving foot traffic. And so it's in order to get these kind of benchmarks that were doing. This study these studies, and then in addition the companies are doing a lot of attribution work as well. And we've been collecting those attribution studies from the out of home media companies, and we're working with professor in Texas, who's going to study all of these attribution studies in order to begin to develop benchmarks for out of home. Attribution coin Steuer incredible resource, you mantra blade provides for the industry in doing big picture. Emphasis any big picture Industry Research and then communicating to operators in the industry in two agencies and add buyers, the value of our home, exactly smart cities. Seems there seemed to be a million smart city conferences going on. What's the old triple as doing with respect to smart cities? But the oh AAA held a conference last year with all of the stakeholders in smart cities to understand where the whole movement is. And also where it will be going over the next few years, and where and how does out of home fit into it? Our challenge will be to adapt as a medium as cities morph into smart cities. So that we continue to be relevant a relevant agent in the delivery of information there's revenue sharing their all kinds of things going on. It is really very similar to our goal with Thomas vehicles because ultimately. As smart cities in a ton of vehicles, actually wind up being part of a similar thing in so our challenge there also will be to adapt. So that we continue to be relevant as the new technologies and new things move along. Cannabis talk about cannabis cannabis advertising issues cannabis is a growing category in those states where it's legal to advertise cannabis. It's still not legal at the federal level. But attitudes. Clearly have changed end are changing. Remember Nancy is that ten states permit cannabis advertising make marijuana legal in another thirty states permit medical marijuana, many of these states allow cannabis advertising in some fashion or another gossip exactly right? You have metrics. Exactly, right. I think we're going to see a trend to more and more states legalizing recreational and medical cannabis in therefore the demand for advertising will increase and so our challenge in navigating this new category will be similar to the way that we navigate with alcohol advertising where it'll be important to balance community standards with the right to promote a legal product. Sometimes just because you can doesn't mean you should you need to have an internal fill drawer your own ability, a set of internal guidelines as to what is not accepted. That's right. And you have no idea Dave over the years. How many times I have? Said that that exact phrase. Is seeking in. The annual out of home media conference is coming up may twenty two twenty second in Las Vegas. What are some of the big themes, and why should someone out of home plan to attend? Well, it's gonna be amazing. It's at the aria resort in Las Vegas. Will celebrate the best creative awards with the obese and our best people with the industry awards, but we're going to be inspiring all kinds of new ways of thinking understanding, for instance, why hot brands are migrating to out of home, Nick, Brian from Dennis ages is the keynote speaker he is going to talk about why out of home is of a justic brand. That's his term. We also have Amazon studios marketing head with us who in Amazon is by the way, the sixth largest out of home advertising. So you'll be able to talk with him and understand why tech Brown's like Amazon are using out of home will also they'll be doing affair. Amount of education and translation with new trends. Or emerging trends programmatic is a big theme on the main stage end in the workshops. We have direct to consumer businesses who will be talking about why they're using out of home. We're also going to be talking about diversity inclusivity, and what that means for the workplace in the marketplace. The planet committee has been really wonderful for this conference. They're very focused on take home value of the content. In fact, a tagline for the conference is don't let it stay in Vegas. So they will have take home sheets with take-home concepts, for instance, at the workshops the afternoon workshops, follow four tracks are twelve different workshops that are in the areas of analytics and business insights and data and thought leadership, and then of course, it will be my last conference. So I hope to see everyone there. Chance to wish Nancy. Well, you can't overestimate the value of the meet and mingle aspect of the conference. I remember two years ago in New Orleans. I was sitting in the front waiting for a talk to begin and gentleman walked up to me shook my hand sat down next to me and said, hi, Sean Riley. I mean, all the executives are there. Everyone seems to go, and it's just the meet and mingle is just a terrific opportunity. I agree. I I often think that as wonderful and rich as the content is there's a lot of business that takes place in a lot of context that are made as well. That are equally valuable absolutely Nancy. You mentioned diversity. Can you talk about where the out of home industry is doing a good job? Giving women opportunities sore. I'd be delighted I think we've made progress, but we need to do more. If you look at it from just a metrics perspective. I would guess the poem industry has done as. Good a job or better than much of the advertising or corporate world in giving women opportunities. But that doesn't mean it's good enough. I remember when I entered the industry in nineteen seventy eight there were four four when women in senior positions. And now there are hundreds you had a piece on a billboard insider about almost four hundred women in senior positions. And I think it was fifty eight tour actually running different operations was that. Right. You also published a story about how the out of the public auto media companies are doing better than the fortune five hundred for the number of women directors. So if you looked at it just a metrics were probably doing as good as but that doesn't mean it's where it should be. Yes. We can definitely do better in diversity and inclusivity will be a central theme at the Las Vegas conference. We've partnered with the female quotient, which is a female owned enterprise that's committed to advancing equality in the workplace. So they're gonna add important programming elements, including a female potion lounge that will be a side stage that has handled discussions career, counseling, etc. And then the CEO of the female potions. Shelly Zalis is going to be on the main stage talking to the most from two or three fortune five hundred companies who will end they'll be discussing the importance of diversity in today's ABC business. I think the national statistics are that women own thirty nine percent of all privately held firms in the United States. If you assume and the numbers may vary. I have six hundred independent out of home companies in my database, perhaps I've heard it's his highs thousand, but if you apply a thirty nine percent metric to six hundred two thousand firms we could add a lot of women owners, we still have room, and maybe that's a nudge to the industry to be able to add to the amount of women owners in the industry. We have a strong bench with several hundred women in senior executive positions as is an incredibly strong bench. So now the challenge is to move people from the bench out to actually running the team. I agree. I agree. And I think striding a spotlight on this issue for not only women, but also people of color can make the difference. The more we talk about it. The more we met. The more. We may be inclined to take action towards something. Exactly. Nancy? You've had an incredible almost thirty year career in out of home who have been some of your mentors. And what have you learned? Oh, goodness. What a question. I've been blessed by some amazing personal and professional mentors on the personal side. My mentors have been largely women starting with my mother who was a remarkable businesswoman. And several other women over the years. I treasure all that I learned from them. I also though in forever grateful for what I think of is my professional mentors my out of home mentors in it's actually forty years this year, Dave 'cause I went to navy in nineteen seventy eight in. So those mentors. I have just learned so much. I have been so blessed by working with Bob ney gli originally who think helped to reinvent this business back in those days from being a highway sign business to an ad medium. He taught me the power of out of home. But also the power urgency. He was someone who said, you know, you just don't wait tomorrow to do what you can do today. Already morale. Brought deep discipline in a service orientation to the business that I learned a great deal from. I couldn't ask for this question without mentioning Carl Eller and his focus on the creative impact of the medium. Bill Applebaum who is one of the best salesman ever in any business. And he zero lived the principal on I learned from him that nothing happens until a sale is made all of the Riley's are super savvy business people in I've worked closely with heaven senior, and then Kevin junior in Now, Sean Riley who is my bosses chairman of the AAA. And then maybe most important of all I'm grateful for the many family owned company leaders who are really like family to me people like Tom Norton who has been on the AAA board since the day. I arrived who was taught me so much and who always wants to do it. Right. Always wants to serve the community. And by the way of never had a Christmas Bill by that. Tom Norton doesn't call to wish me merry Christmas. So these these these people have become family over the time as well as mentors teachers leaders. You can go on and on the number of quality private firms in the business, just that's right. Every state house one. That's right. Nancy? What's what's next for you? Well, first of all I want to take all of these next months to thank this industry. In on this podcast today is industry is giving me such unforgettable opportunities. I've had a great ride. I wouldn't trade a single day of it even the most challenging day. But after forty years, it's time for a change. I'm ready for more time with my husband who has already retired this may sound a little corny, but we wake up every day. And celebrate the fact that we're together in we'd be idiots if we didn't feel that way. Because we're so lucky we love each other. We're healthy. We have choices it looking at retirement. There two words that come to mind, adventures and grandchildren. We have grandchildren, Minneapolis. And in Chicago. I also went -ticipant to corporate board service, which I've had to decline because I've been in this role in the past. And so I think I'll do some of that. And we're working on some nonprofits terrific. Do you have any unappointed words? Oh, if I had partying words my hope for the industry is that all of you would remember to stick together in push yourselves to do even better all the time for our customers our communities and the public. Conversation. Thank you so much for appearing on the podcast, Nancy, my pleasure. Good luck. Dave. Thank you in. Thanks to Lucas Jones editing and production. This episode was sponsored by a Dominy Dombi the easy way to sell billboards online out of home in your hands. 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Monday, April 20, 2020 - The Christian Science Monitor Daily

The Christian Science Monitor Daily

12:14 min | 8 months ago

Monday, April 20, 2020 - The Christian Science Monitor Daily

"Welcome to the. Monitor daily podcast. It's Monday April twentieth. Thanks for joining us. I'm Noel Suon Don Peter Grier in nineteen seventy little seemed to be going right with the natural world rivers caught fire. Acid rain fell from the sky. Birds were disappearing. But that's spring. A simple message began to take root in American thought. There's one planet earth so we better take care of it together. As tens of thousands of people gathered in American cities for the world's first Earth Day on April twenty second founder Gaylord Nelson told the crowd in Denver. The objective is an environment of decency quality and mutual respect for all other human beings and all living creatures that message carries new. Wait as we mark the Fiftieth Day amid two seemingly intractable global challenges climate change and a pandemic the end of the corona virus pandemic is uncertain but the world is gathering momentum together taking steps that previously seemed impossible. The same is true for the climate crisis. Scientists policy makers engineers and everyday citizens are working to preserve our planet this week in honor of earth. Days Pioneers The Monitor is teaming up with covering climate now a partnership of hundreds of global news outlets to explore climate solutions. Check back throughout the week for a look at nature based Solutions Boston's quest to go carbon neutral and efforts to integrate solar power and agriculture. Now to our five stories which include a look at the privilege implied in stay at home orders how small businesses in Russia are rising to the Kovic Challenge and ten bucks to carry you away while you stay at home our first story as the novel Corona Virus Spreads governments are watching each other trying to learn what policies work but poorer countries where much of the labor force is outside. Safety Nets are entering less charted waters across the globe governments faced tough choices about how to control the spread of the novel Corona Virus. Let life go on. And the disease can spread unchecked order everyone home and the economy buckles. These choices are especially painful in countries. Where high percentages of people working informally outside Safety Nets governments from Mexico to South Africa of taken dramatically different approaches but have one thing in common stopping the pandemic demand? Something more complicated than a cut in pay to responses tried in China Europe and the United States Arturo Granada's sells fruit in pop up street markets Mexico City each morning. You put a face mask and heads out to set up his hot pink tarp stall as he has for the past. Four decades if the government doesn't provide alternatives for informal workers. We will have no choice but to continue to go out and work. He says resistance had pushed governments to ease some restrictions and assist poor people. Meanwhile informal workers said they hoped the crisis will be a wake up call about how important they are. We aren't the problem. Mr Office says we are the solution to the government's inability to create jobs in stable employment. This story was reported by Whitney. You Look in Mexico City and Ryan Lenora Brown in Yohannes Berg for the Monitor. It's never been easy to run a small business in Russia now. The pandemic is threatening to shut them down in a new way but Russian preneurs are figuring out ways to get by and officials are starting to help them. Small businesses make up less than twenty percent of Russia's economy though they have proliferated and diversified in Russian cities in recent years. They're very existence seems a bit of a miracle and most still find it very tough going in the best of times but now that the corona virus pandemic has prompted a lockdown of Russia's main economic and transport hub until at least the April many entrepreneurs described the threat. They face as existential Vladimir Putin has decreed that the government should pay special attention to the survival of small businesses including direct subsidies of one hundred sixty two dollars the minimum wage per employee every month for those that retain at least ninety percent of their staff. Some hold out hope the crisis will bring change and maybe official attitudes towards them will improve Mikhail Sagir Yan who runs to fitness clubs in the Moscow region that he's had to close says his relations with local officials have greatly improved in the past month. They are really trying to be helpful. It's like a war situation where everybody should pull together. If that spirit lasts even a little bit that would be good. This story was reported by Fred. We're in Moscow for the Monitor. They lost their town to fire now. The residents of Paradise California or drawing on communal strength born of adversity to meet the pandemic with determined optimism after wildfires burned their town and twenty eighteen. The people of Paradise California were determined to rebuild. Now the Kovic nineteen pandemic threatens its fragile progress facing another calamity so soon after the camp fire residents and local officials share concern over the ordeals ahead and yet trust they will persevere communal resolve born of collective adversity. At first. You think we just went through one disaster and now this says Jodi Jones a member of the town council. Who was mayor when the inferno struck? She and her husband lost their home to the flames at the same time. This community has drawn a lot of strength from what we went through. And that will help us get through this between the two crises pads in a retired bank manager whose house survived the blaze considers the corona virus. Far Less ominous MS zinn always keeps small stockpiles of toilet. Paper cleaning solvents and canned food on hand her habitual readiness derives in part from childhood memories of rationing during World War. Two her calmness about the corona virus arises in part from living through the polio epidemic. While growing up in southern California people my age we've been through life. We know his ups and downs. She says this story was reported by Martin coups and Wayne Door Yo in Paradise California for the Monitor today in environmental those informs many of our actions but those values have always been with us in honor of the fiftieth anniversary of earth. Day We look back at it. All began over the past year so called. Climate kids have stormed the world stage urging their elders to take drastic measures to preserve the planet but long before gratitude Berg addressed the United Nations a whole different generation of young people took to the streets in defense of the earth. One of those first environmentalists with Dennis Hayes. He was a student at Harvard University and headed to Washington to offer help to Senator Gaylord Nelson. Who was planning the first Earth Day scheduled for April Twenty Second? Nineteen seventy before long. Mr Hayes had dropped out of Harvard and moved to Washington to be the organizer of the event. An entire movement was born out of that moment. One that has endured for fifty years if you had gone around the United States in one thousand nine hundred sixty nine asking people what they thought about the environment. People mostly wouldn't have known what you were talking about. He says by the middle of one thousand nine hundred seventy something like seventy five percent of all. Americans call themselves environmentalists. This story was reported by Amanda Paulson. For the monitor feeling isolated. Well staying indoors will feel like an adventure with this roundup of April books ranging from romance to historical fiction to memoir. You can find the full list of recommendations in today's issue. Now commentary on Hong Kong's clash with China from the Monitor's editorial board Beijing's treatment of Hong Kong has long been a bellwether on. How would treat the rest of the world on Saturday? That predictor became clearer after the arrest of fifteen prominent campaigners for democracy not. Surprisingly many of the activists welcomed their arrests. The charges relate to their role in mass protests last year against China's attempt to curtail basic rights in the former British colony China's ruling Communist Party regards rule of law as a tool to extend its power not as a universal right yet. Most Hongkongers prefer the self governance and transparency of their current system. An independent judiciary since the protests have subsided with the threat of the corona virus pro democracy leaders have been preparing to renew them in July. In addition they hope to win many seats in September's Legislative Election Chinese leader Xi Jinping often reminds his country that rule of law really means the law of governing by the Communist Party as he tries to export his model of governance to other countries. He starting to receive pushback in many places none more so than in Hong Kong. That's a wrap for the news. You can find the full length versions of these stories in today's issue or at CS monitor dot com slash daily. Thanks for joining us today. Comeback Tomorrow when Simon Montlake will explore Massachusetts effort to enlist an army of contact tracers in the battle against the corona virus? Today's Christian Science Spiritual Perspective contributor writes that. Stay at home. Orders have sometimes sparked tension as well as joy but each of us can turn to God for the daily grace of patience kindness and poise. We need to meet such situations you can find the column today's issue or at CS monitor dot com slash daily. We want to give a quick thanks to our staff including today's Audio Production Team Jessica Mendoza and Knoll flat. This podcast is produced by the Christian. Science Monitor Copyright Twenty Twenty.

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601 Looking for Rome; The End of Ice; Earth Day

Travel with Rick Steves

51:23 min | 7 months ago

601 Looking for Rome; The End of Ice; Earth Day

"Mountain Climber. Dargie male noticing how glaciers and a whole lot more are disappearing. He warns us. We're running out of time to get serious about how we treat the IRT. When we now get to go see things that are still there. I hope that that deepens our appreciation and love for these places in organizer of the very first Earth Day in nineteen seventy reminds us of the hopes the environmental movement tried to instill in all of us throughout nature. The most powerful drive of living things is for survival in the power of Earth Day lay in its ability to tap that court and state plus to guide from Rome helps us recognize what the Eternal City can show us about. Two centuries mission is to make realm accessible because I understand it can be overwhelming. And what do you do if two thousand years of history when he do is years of arts the glories of Rome and the changes you should expect on our warming planet? It's where we're going our head on travel with Rick Steves. Hi I'm Rick Steves. As the world grapples with the Corona Virus. News changes almost daily about it. Many people are isolated at home but our travel dreams are free to bounce all over our world even if we can't travel right now. Let's continue to enjoy the many cultures and experiences that await our discovery when this crisis is old news. Thanks for joining us for travel. With Rick Steves it took a decade for Americans to take Rachel Carson seriously. In her book silent Spring She described the dangerous carcinogenic pesticides to the Environment. End To our health. It's bird the. Us government to create the Environmental Protection Agency and banning DT use in North America and much of the world got underway. Today we're experiencing a new form of silent. Spring with the spread of the novel Corona Virus as well as the accelerating effects of climate change on the planet. Maybe these are all signs that Mother Nature is upset with us up mountain climbing journalists Djamil. Cautions us that we're running out of time to get serious about our impact on the natural world? He'll tell us why in just a bit. Let's start today's travel. With Rick. Steves with fresh look at one of the world's most celebrated cities Rome. Francesca Caruso specializes in uncovering the layers of Roman history for visitors. She's with us to point out. What's behind the sites? We see so. We can view Roma's our city to treasure as well. Francesca Buongiorno. Kayak Francesca every day. You take groups around Rome like an evangelist of art appreciation. I've been following you for twenty years this way and it just your fresh now as you were when I first met you as far as your teaching mission. What is your mission as a teacher of travelers in Rome mission to make Rome accessible because I understand that it can be overwhelming. And what do you do with two thousand years of history? What do you do if two thousand years of art? So it's really giving some ideas on how to navigate it how to make sense of. What does it mean? What does it mean to us today? Wonderful classroom well. It's not a bad office to have. Now what are the big challenges? I mean it's it's hot. It's crowded people don't know their history What are the challenges of this? I mean it's becoming more and more crowded yes. The summer's getting very hot. But I think we have to stand that these things don't explain themselves that it's not true that if you stare at a painting or you look at broken columnists going to tell you what it means so we need a little bit of help. We need a few ideas. How do I look at things with the ancient ruins? Look like when they were intact for example so was a few ideas. We can do that. So when you're doing your work. Are there moments when you feel like yes? I've I've really connected and this person has been opened up to the wonder of what I've loved for years. It's a moment the SA- crossing the threshold at some moment. When you see that look in their eyes that they're right there and sometimes I invite them to remember to think of themselves at home packing their suitcases before coming to Rome and ask him think of where you are now the real thing and the real place think about this and as he that they look around themselves they do these moments. I mean now. Travelers can enter the coliseum through. What do you call it? The gladiator entrance on the stern entrance. And you're on the arena on the floor and you can hear the crowds and you can see the wild animals and BSE. Imagine nation is absolutely ignited finding moments though as a teacher. I mean anybody could just walk through some Gaetan look at the Coliseum on the inside it must be nice for you to able to have an entry that makes sense for the story that you're trying to tell. The story is the part I. I don't think you know after twenty years of talking about these things. I think that it's not so much the stones in themselves as was the stones have to say I mean the idea that the stones carry cultures carry stories that but we can think about and we can understand the past but we can also understand ourselves and having a conversation with those stories for you in other words the art can actually be more than just enjoying something fascinating or beautiful it can have meaning can have important the cost the coliseum. I mean the colosseum is bricks. Stones was the colosseum as a place of violence as a place of politics. It's a place where there is ethical moral issue that comes up with his. It mean that these people went to watch death all day long so it becomes a an occasion to reflect on the use of violence and propaganda. That so interesting because a lot of people go. Oh those Romans I mean arena. That's the word is sand right to soak up the blood. Absolute that's why it's called an arena because Covered with sand. So all the bloodshed on the opening celebration of the Coliseum. How many animals were slaughtered? Has Nine thousand or something like that? I always recommend working with perception to also think okay violence. But what if they'd been ancient Roman sitting in the audience and I saw my first lion never having seen a photograph line on knowing what a line looks like a lion pounces out of the floor for the first time. Two thousand years ago without zoos and circuses documentaries would that meant so we can put ourselves in the shoes of people of the past. It creates a different understanding history and culture. We don't need to be quite so judgmental and we also have to remember. What are the top selling movies for us? You know. They're the shoot? 'em Up the Schwarzenegger movies on this kind of stuff. The the wrestling the car racing everybody waiting for a crash. I mean there's a lot of consistency between twenty first century and two thousand years ago might challenge as a tour guide. And I would imagine you're too is helping people see things in that context. I mean today we go to Roman. It's a modern city sitting on the ruins of a city that used to have a million people. There were a million people in Rome two thousand years ago. How do we envision that? How do we appreciate pass key? But the imagination needs to be informed so if I say that Roma's the first city in the West that reach the population of a million that an antiquity was the most populated city on the planet. And there will never be a million people in a European city again after Roman to London in the eighteen hundreds there you can start thinking that and then you start saying well. What did it mean to provide clean water food housing to over a million people two thousand years ago with did it look like and then you're there all of a sudden you're there and you're thinking like them and you don't bring your baggage of perceptions of moral codes and ethics but you're thinking like a Roman and then that's the transformative aspect of travel that you can be in the shoes of another person of another time might challenge and I just love? This is to not look at it from yeah. I've been there done that. I've seen it on TV. I saw that movie. You know from the twenty. Oh we've got taller buildings or whatever put yourself in the context and then you go. Wow they had a sewer system for a million people. They brought in water for a million people. They cooked bread for a million people there. Rick it happens if you're on the other side of the world and you didn't know book it's one thing if you're in place and you can imagine you can think you can reflect. You can feel are things that can happen if you're that to not happen. Otherwise is doors open as he's Windows. That opens a comprehension. Remember we talked about once fell to The Catholic pilgrim to walk into Saint Peter's for the first time for one hundred years ago. It's that idea of putting ourselves in the eyes in the shoes of travelers on the past to step in to Saint Peter's Basilica for the first time and to be dazzled by on imaginable glory. This is travel. With Rick Steves talking with. Francesca Caruso about appreciating the art specifically of Rome. What's your favorite peaceful bit of antiquity? Where you can just sit alone with it in forum is a place of my heart because you can sit on any stone and reflect on the passing of time and you look at these storms. At two thousand years ago stood for the grandeur the most amazing place the world had ever seen then as ruins. They come to stand for the fall in the loss of that grandeur and as they sit there in the grass with the setting sun they stand for the resilience of the human spirit and it's always the same stones eighteen years old. I Sat. There's a little viewpoint viewpoint to this day just on the Capitol Hill where you can. You can actually sit on the on the banister. Balustrade in dangle your feet and look out over what was called the cow field I think when it became very this When it became buried over time that's what it became known. Just think of two thousand years of the coming and going and civilizations and wars and all that I think there's actually ancient doors that have been swinging on the same hinge for two thousand years. Aren't there still works. The is little epiphanies. How many have you encountered in your life? As a travel place is unlocks than reveals. It's essence to sells incense when when you know that you're there and you know that you get it in ancient Rome. The tiber river was I mean. Romans built on the Tiber River. I suppose for a reason. What's the importance from a sightseeing? Point of view. What do we derive from the Tiber River to say it doesn't offer the same experience rivers and other cities do because The Taiba was also the reason. Rome is in layers because it used to flood all the time and all the silt that accumulated through the ages made it rise vertically the famous layers from so. They saw that problem by building. These high embankments in the eighteen hundred. So now it's sort of isolated down that we don't have this vital relationship with a but reflecting on the river Tiber reflecting on Rome. It's reason to be is the river. Tiber. I mean this may be simplistic but I always think of Rome. As where the entrust civilization to the north met the Greek civilization to the south. As far as you could go up the river with a boat in the first place where there is a bridge over river. Perfect CENTER RATE CAPITAL C. You said it the history makes sense when you can be right there and put it together another very interesting thing about Rome is I mean. It's remarkably chaotic. But it's also remarkably protected. It didn't occur to me until recently. There's almost no modern buildings in the city. There's the fascist train station and a couple of fascists buildings from the thirties. There's the modern buildings surrounding the ARA puchased. Which is the Great Roman arch of peace other than that in central Rome? Are there any post World War Two buildings now? There are in one theory that I read that I thought was fascinating. As a during the fascist period so much destruction took place so much destruction of the antiquities and also what will be considered clutter around the major monuments? That were destroyed and not documented. I think there was this deliberate decision after the war never again so they learned from that approach to things as a fascist dictatorship at our layer. Wanted a grand procession up to. Saint Peter's Basilica. So what did he do? He wanted to be able to see the coliseum from windows side whole Medieval neighborhood absolutely so never again Francesca. It's easy to get overwhelmed in Rome by the outdoor sites and forget the indoor sites very briefly. What are a couple of galleries that you should see to make? Sure you're going to get a proper appreciation for all the marvelous statuary that has been taken out of the acidic air so it can be properly preserved. Well I mean if I had to choose one museum in Italy and my choice would always be. The border gives the Book Gazza. Gallery has the most exciting art anywhere. Those statues by bid Nina would convert anybody to art. I think that you can turn into a museum fanatic Bitney there you gain an appreciation for corrupt and filthy rich was bishop. He was a cardinal. He was what we call a cardinal nephew. The equivalent of the Secretary of state must have been quite corrupt guy because he had all the money in the world helps to be the pups nephew and he had a big palace in the middle of the garden. And basically you got Bernini for your Decorator commissioned these four fantastic statues to him. But you know but I was thinking that these cardinals and these rich aristocrats were really like American millionaires who collected art and their great mansions to show off their power and their status. You know very similar. They're all sorts of parallels that can be drawn travel with Rick Steves. We've been enjoying a little art appreciation. Enroll with Francesco Caruso. Francesca you've dedicated a beautiful life to showing Americans the wonders of Rome. What's the most gratifying thing for you? And you take your groups around as a Roman. It's I think when people realize that that Rome belongs to them to that in everybody's background in the words that we use an English in the thoughts that we think there's a little bit of realm and so- Rome's home. It's everybody's city that's what I liked the most beautiful sentiment. Thank you so much. Having Francesca Russa's website includes tips for touring it's up. Francesca CARUSO DOT COM. You won't want to miss what journalist Dr Jim male has to tell us about what you and I have to do to reverse the climate disruption unfolding. All around us. Next on Travel Christie's the earth is changing before our eyes were seeing a surge in Amazon rainforest. Wildfires bleached and dying coral reefs melting glaciers and flooding coastlines as mountain climbing journalist. Dr A male puts it. The Earth is in hospice in his book. The end of ice bearing witness and finding meaning in the path of Climate Change Jamaica travels the world to find some of the most devastated areas impacted by climate change and to find meaning in. What's rapidly happening to their Dr. Welcome to travel with. Rick Steves and I gotTa say this is. This is one of the most depressing books. I've ever read the Earth in hospice. I mean we've been talking about. What can we do? What can we do and to be? Blunt? We're not doing much are we? Were really not and well first of all. Thanks for having me on your show. It's an honor. And secondly thanks for talking about this challenging topic on a show for you know. We usually travel myself included to appreciate the world and live have joy and now this has to be part of that converse. That'd be part of it. I mean I always like to remind people Thomas. Jefferson wrote travel makes a person wiser if less happy. I mean. There's a reality out there and I don't. I don't want to go to my grave. Denial we want to be engaged. Yeah that's a great quote cordoned blow. It was a hard book to write but I you know my one goal for the book was that people would actually finish reading it and then want to go out on the planet in nature in wherever that place is. Wouldn't that be something if everybody just became enthusiastic about nature that would be a big step in the right direction? I think it's the first step any of us have to take because I think the core causes of the climate crisis is our fundamental disconnect from the planet as we become more and more urbanized exact everywhere. I mean how many people sit in under the stars like we did when we were kids and count meteorites me. What does it mean? Notice meteors right writing across this guy exactly and being all and being an amazing awe of nature to show respect. Well you start your book in off nature. I mean talk about grabbing my attention from the first paragraph you're in the darkness deep crevasse looking up at a little slice of light. Why did you start your book there and give us a little bit of that experience? One reason is I wanted to get people's attention got mine as as that fall. Got My attention. See I was. I was on a climb in a mountain range. Just outside of Anchorage Alaska and I took a fall down a crevasse and it was my first really big fall into a crevasse and so it was very harrowing moment where I was on a two-man wrote team and almost full my partner in with me just from the force of the fall but he stopped right literally on the edge so I'm hanging there dangling over an abyss that I could not see the bottom just blackness below me and looking up and I I chose to open with that because it really was shocking to me to have that fall fall about roughly fifteen meters or so down and then realize that all that ice above me was going to be melted off in short order and so that was really the impression that I wanted to leave people with not short enough for your particular situation there. Right in that particular instance. So your partner couldn't do anything. She had to wait for your other hikers to come and get up there and then they finally pulled you out. Yes very very harrowing close to ice and in the name of your book is the end of Ice Mountain. You're mountaineer and that sort of informs your view or it gets shaped your perspective on climate change. How is coming mountains tuned? You in to the wonder major end the tragedy of Climate Change Right. The book is titled Thus and five of the nine chapters are very Alaska centric. Because I've moved up there in nineteen ninety six and lived there for ten years and so even though I wasn't aware of the climate crisis wasn't a journalist just spending so much time in the mountains. I was seeing firsthand. These dramatically receding glaciers in the disrupted weather patterns across Alaska even back in the mid nineteen ninety so the seed was always there and then about five years ago. I realized that this is the book. I really WANNA do. rock climbers. Tell me now were. Previously safe. Routes are no longer safe because the permafrost is melting. Even on the face of the four or something like that and it's got more falling rocks. It's a big deal. In the on the matterhorn. That's right. Yeah all around the climbing world. We see you know. Everest is probably the most famous example we saw. I think it was three summers ago. The giant ice avalanche that came down to the Khumbu icefall and killed many Sherpas and so previously. We've had all these really legendary classic. Climbing routes that our basically becoming impassable and unusable in front of our face I was just at the Matterhorn. And that was the big buzz. Is this simple? Climb up the matterhorn is no longer simple and safe. That's right and you bring that up. It's good timing because just literally in the last couple of months. There's been scientific studies showing that probably by twenty one hundred matterhorn may not even have glaciers on it anymore. This is so heartbreaking and you say the I've never even considered this before the but the earth is in hospice rate coming aware of the wounds climate disruption caused the mountains and glaciers. I've come to cherish over. The years felt like watching a dear friend with a terminal illness. That is really what it's felt like for me and in fact I just got back from a trip to Alaska to give some book readings and it was for example on November twentieth. I gave a reading at the University of Alaska and in Anchorage and it was forty eight degrees outside and raining on November twentieth in Anchorage Alaska. That's not it's supposed to be minimum twenty degrees colder than that up there and rain. It felt like spring break up. And it's heartbreaking to watch these places that we've always you know that I've known in love for a long time changing so dramatically like when you go to Switzerland and expect to see beautiful magnificent mountainscapes with glaciers and we know now in Switzerland. They're literally in late. Summers putting white blankets on the glaciers to try to preserve them. Give them a little bit more time. I mean that's that's just a heartbreaking thing and I think it's important for us to note that and not try to avoid it. Well Yeah we. We need to be honest with this. And this whole hospice idea. When you visit a loved one who's terminally ill your comforting them as they leave this world When you visit a loved one who is very sick you hope and pray they get well are you saying we're beyond the hope and pray you get well with the planet earth well for a lot of systems we are and it's not just my opinion. I'm very careful the site scientists and scientific studies when I talk about this so for example the great beer reef being and terminal stage. I mean. That's that's coming from scientific studies so yes the great beer real. And that's snowballing. Thing when the reef is in terminal that means a whole ecosystem is going to be messed up right and so no longer a place to go visit or certain glaciers. Are you know the parts of the Amazon CETERA ET CETERA. So this I think it brings into focus when we now get to go see things that are still there. I hope that that deepens our appreciation and love for these places and gratitude like look at this amazing planet that we live on and I get to go spend time with this glacier reef rainforest. That's still here now. And that should inform what I do and how I behave in my daily life as well so hopefully that will be preserved bit longer. Dahr Jamail spent a decade as a war reporter covering Iraq and the Middle East when he returned to America to enjoy the mountains and glaciers. He wants climbed he found the peaks and icy legis. He remembered were shrinking in his book. The end device bearing witness and finding meaning in the path of climate change. Dr Explorers What we're losing from Alaska to the Great Barrier Reef but it's also a renewed appreciation for earth's beauty at least while we have. His website is Dr Jailed. Dot Net spelled d. h. r. j. e. m. a. i. l. Dr Jail Dot Net. So Dr go enjoy the world embrace it celebrated but let's be honest about what's coming up if you believe in scientific believe with the general consensus among scientists is pulling out. All political pulling out all economic distractions. Because I think a lot of people's grip on reality is shaped by their stock portfolio in this sort of tragic sort of Lousy priorities. We've got some really big environmental events ahead of us. I just WanNa talk briefly about a few things. You're talking about a kind of a methane burp. What does that mean? What are the big concerns in? The Arctic is in the Shallow Arctic. Sea beds are trapped in the subsea permafrost. What's called methane? Hydrates vast amounts of methane. Which is a greenhouse gas eighty. Five Times more potent than co two on a ten year time scale that this is already leaking out and the methane BURP was warned of by. Natalia. She Cova who authored several papers on it believing that we could even have a cataclysmic release of massive massive amount of methane all at once hence the term burp on the order of fifty Gig a ton co two equivalent which would be an incredible amount of greenhouse gases added to the atmosphere in an extremely abrupt fashion and one event like that. I gotta say forgive me for being crest but that will make the plate of coal in West. Virginia seemed kind of trivial. It would right yeah. That's the magnitude that we're talking about in. It also underscores. I think the most important scientific quote in my entire book came from Dan. Fakery WHO's a usgs scientists at glacier national park where he made headlines The summer I interviewed him saying look. There probably won't be glaciers in Glacier National Park by twenty thirty and in trying to get our heads around the gravity of the crisis. That's on us. I said well what keeps you up at night and he talks. About how what we're seeing or non linear changes that are no longer based on a simple relationship between cause and effect. He's said they are usually abrupt unexpected and challenging to predict so you talk about the methane potential. They are usually abrupt unexpected and challenging to predict. And that's the thing that we have to try to get our heads and that's going to mess up any kind of Friendly Trajectories we might WANNA comfort ourselves with it will will. So you gotta Let. Let's talk about the ice cap and I kept on Greenland and the Arctic. When those crack that would seem to me would exceleron arrate the melting. What is the consequence of losing those ice caps? Yeah the most famous feedback loop that I think most people are aware of is when we lose the Arctic Summer Sea ice up in the Arctic. So acts like a giant marrow reflecting over eighty five percent of the light and warmth back into space white reflects the heat out precisely just like you don't wear black if you wanna stay cool precisely. The earth wants to stay cool. It wants a white overcoat right the more snow the better the more the better and when that is going away which we know it is on the way out as well. Then there's more dark blue ocean that's absorbing the light heating faster and it just speeds on six November and we got the rising sea level but we also got the warming seats. I mean it's pretty clear if the C. goes up five feet. Most great cities I know are on the. I mean. It's a serious issue. You also have something that's a little different to get your Brown see. What are the consequences of a warming? See well as you just said. The second biggest factor in sea level rise is warming water so as water warms it expands. And so that accelerates things and then the other aspect of you mentioned a warming water takes up it rises just because it's getting warmer exactly. Yeah if they don't add more to it warm it. Yeah Yeah and then. And then the other aspect that you mentioned earlier about reefs is it increases the amount of coral bleaching events that we're having so it's harder for coral to exist when you're really warming up the temperatures and these coral reefs. They're they're nice for scuba divers and so on but they're also nice for the survival and health of our entire ecosystem if you think of the the huge giant. What is the Barrier Reef outside of Australia When that dies? That's the biggest organism on the planet. I think it is. What's the consequence would of the snowballing effects of losing that huge life-form well one quarter of all marine species spins some part of their life on reefs so when we lose the biggest refund the planet and so many of the other small reefs than a huge amount of marine species are GONNA be immediately dramatically affected not even talking about what happens to tourism and economic consequences of for example. The country of Australia use the Great Barrier Reef. This is travel with Rick. Steves talking with Dr Jamal. His book is the end of ice bearing witness and finding meaning in the path of climate disruption you say climate disruption rather than climate change. Was that intentional choice. It was because I was trying to be as scientifically specific and accurate as I could because many people listening is probably heard you know. Climate change global warming. Those were actually terms inserted into the dialogue by fossil fuel interest because it downplays the severity of the crisis since the disruption is literally what we see in most places. It's getting warmer but we also do have some places where it's actually getting colder much colder than normal so literally a disrupted climate and a quarter area. Let somebody who's a climate denier? Pick up a snowball and say. What do you mean climate change? You know exactly. That's right sad you know. We're a travel company. We TAKE THIRTY THOUSAND PEOPLE ON OUR TOURS EVERY YEAR. So we're contributing mightily. Our accounting in our country doesn't make us pay the cost of the carbon. We add to the environment this year we've given ourselves for. We're considering a self imposed carbon tax because we've learned that well if you invest thirty dollars into climate. Smart Agriculture in the developing world are carbon. Offsets here in in the wealthy world You you mitigate what you contribute. So you're not doing anything heroic. You're just mitigating. We contributed a lot of carbon by flying to Europe and back as travelers in your mind. If you find a way to invest in something positive that creates as much good as you've created bad by flying there can you find peace of mind in that idea of mitigation? You've washed it out I'm not saying you're doing anything to help the problem. But are you mitigating your negative impact? I think it's a good first step. It's complicated right because all of us living in the industrialized west none of us can be purist right. I mean I know you're not gonna live like a monk. I mean we're still going to travel but we've taken the expense so that the people who take yours have that comfort of knowing yes together we've paid for the cost of our carbon and we are carbon neutral. We have to go beyond that but just in the short simple sort of analysis it is possible to fly to Europe. And back and mitigate the carbon you contribute. It is technically possible to do that. And I think that's the moral thing to do. And it's the right thing to do and it's a really great first step in a further on all fronts. We being the collective we. But that's very important. I think when people are still traveling and taking these trips also keep in mind. You know one of the places that you guys serve as Iceland is isolated as a country just went up to one of their glaciers that they've lost from climate change and install a plaque. I mean take advantage of this Raise awareness the privilege to raise awarness. Go pay homage to what has been lost in. What is in the process of being losing and go pay respect to that now Dr? Does it frustrate you when you see people talking about? I'M NOT GONNA I'm gonNA stop using plastic straws or you know little token things that of course it matters but we can be a plus students on all this little personal values thing and we ignore the industrial effect or the governmental effect. It seems to me government and industry is where the real solution is. Not Me getting a car. That's a electric. But that's kind of a downer. I think it's all the above. I think that we all have a moral obligation to system. We tried to walk talk and reduce our own personal carbon footprints. I think all of that's important in it all counts and remembering the fact that so that we don't guilt ourselves into submission Or become overwhelmed that yes. It's one hundred. Companies that are emitting seventy one percent of all the co two mountain climbing journalist. Dahr Jamail explorers. What's happening in the Earth's hot spots in his book the end device bearing witness and finding meaning in the path of Climate Change Dr? I was very impressed by your curiosity insensibility to indigenous cultural sensibilities and you write about how. Western culture is all about rights and indigenous cultures. All about obligations. Can we just wrap up our discussion with your take on the importance of tuning into indigenous values in this struggle so the indigenous perspective is that were born onto the planet with two primary obligations? One is to be stewards and take care of the planet to is to make all decisions based on. What's GonNa be best for future generations of species and if I wake up each day and I consider those two things. Those are my two primary moral obligations the no matter how bleak things may appear with this crisis or the political crisis. I have my work cut out for me if I can't find anything to do. Then that's a failure of my own imagination in my own empathy for future generations. Just think about the children being born to the planet today. What can I do keeping that in mind? How am I going to live my life so that much later when someone comes up to me and says did you know this was happening and of course I have to say yes and then this younger generation person says so? What did you do? And that's what I need to keep in mind when I go through my life today S. We'll look at how efforts like Earth Day can stimulate us to action in just a bit by the way we recorded our conversation with dodge a few weeks before the world started to hear about a deadly new virus showing up in China. Dr Explorers What we have to be hopeful about with the Earth's environment in just a minute on travel with Rick Steves from the top of Denali to the Great Barrier Reef Dahr Jamail explorers. What's happening to the earth? As a result of our disconnect with the natural world and the acceleration of the climate crisis his book. The end of ice is out now in paperback and includes a new epilogue Dr. I'd like to talk just about hopefulness. You refinanced your home here in Washington state to buy acres around your property. Jesse could keep the trees when you look at those trees. Do you do that like visiting a dying relatives need a few more minutes with them or do you look at those trees with hope. I do get hope from them. In the when I was working on this book I was sitting in my house that surrounded by these beautiful magnificent trees and there were times. I got really despondent and depressed regularly and I would have to take breaks and literally there were times. I'd go outside and stand there and look at the trees and watch them swing in the wind and just feel gratitude as well as like okay. Y'All are still here. I'm still here. We're all still here. I'M GONNA go back in and keep writing so thank you. You know. And just finding solace in the magnificence of the planet and all that is still here. You know I like to be humbled by nature. I like to feel small. I love to walk on a Ridge and just feel small under that big sky with these magnificent valleys and peaks all around me. But it's weird that little humans can have such a big impact on this vast planet. How is it that we can have the power to change the entire climate? It is amazing that we as this small species on the planet has managed to find a way to extract so much oil and gas and then burnt it emitted into the atmosphere in such a short amount of time. That's how it's been made possible. I mean is that fundamentally what it is it's burning fossil fuel it is. Yeah if we primary 'cause if we if we managed. Does that give us any hope? Maybe we're going to come to the solution fifty years too late. What we already have the solution. We already know what needs to be done. We need to stop emissions. We need to switch to renewables. We need to change this consumerist capitalist lifestyle and we already have the technology to do it. We already know how to make renewables. We have the capacity to do it all these things. We regenerative agriculture. All of this you know designating more wild lands on the planet protecting. What's already here? We know how to do all this. The only thing. That's lacking is political will lyrical in Norway to have a tesla is a cheap car because they get so many tax advantages. You have a test. Let's it's cheaper than buying a regular Honda Civic. You know right and says when you when you look at the big picture because you get all of this government incentives to do that to be green we. We need government proactively. I would think right. And that's why governments have to lead because the pace of the change and the scale of it could only be incorporated on the timeline. We have to have if global governments on the ball and we do see some examples of this in Scandinavian countries and places like Iceland so as as they started this interview. This is one of the most depressing books I've ever read. Is there any point to have hope is is hope just delusion or if you were going to say yes there's a little hope what would it be? It's really hard information. And it is difficult to take in but I think we have to have an accurate prognosis to go forward. The way I describe it as you know. If you're GONNA do a back country trip you need an accurate. Most updated topographical map. You can get in. You know you look out the landscape of the planet now in the climate crisis. I mean it's it's grim but we need to know that in order to make informed decisions and I think if there is hope it's that okay I can see very clearly what's going on and that's going to inform my decisions and I'm going to be making very different decisions in my life. Knowing how tenuous. The situation is not just right now but for all future generations and that's going to inform my decision making. I think that puts us in a position now where we can have an amount of awareness and then respond accordingly that we just didn't have before. Do you have a sense that there are smart people that understand the reality that simply deny it because it's not good for their personal financial bottom line. Oh absolutely I mean. Is that that old famous quote. I've seen it attributed to Aldous Huxley. Says it's awful difficult to get. Amanda believe something he's being paid not to believe. Have you thought about this notion that in the last generation corporations have been redefined as entities that have a legal obligation to profit maximizing the short-term for their stockholders and because of that they cannot consider long term sustainability. They have to make the money now and make it fast and if the leaders of this corporations don't embrace that they find different leader. That's right that's right so the whole entire system is infected with weight tico. And that's why the whole entire system has to be changed and contentment. Therefore is almost subversive examined. You cannot be content. That's right. We were growing at two percent in its crisis so we have to throw out this political leader and get another political leader so we can grow at four percent. That's right when the growth is actually the problem growth of the problem right. So what about you know? And that's where you know gratitude as radicalism right because if you're grateful for added to had a him. Oh baby then you don't need anything and you definitely don't need to go to the mall. See there was a movement in Scandinavia. That that I was really into called the future in our hands and the whole basis of that political movement was we are satisfied materially. Let's move up maslow's hierarchy of needs and have more meaningful lives and be more sustainable perfect. It's a beautiful thing. That's so Scandinavian. And it would be stomped out here politically right in the current sort of discourse this travel with Rick Steves. We're talking with Dr Jameel. He's written a book called the end of ice and it really is a call to action. It's a harsh look at where we are and why we are and we are where we are because of us is no other excuse. It's our values. It's our inability and refusal to be honest with the future. And where we're going in your travels. You went to a lot of great places. And it just heightened awareness Just very quickly. Tell me what you discovered. When he went to the Florida coastline. So the Florida coast line is basically the frontlines of climate crisis regarding sea level rise and essentially all. That's GonNa go away. I mean to cut to the chase. The sea level rise experts that I spoke with their at University of Miami. One of them in particular said you know we? We could easily at ten feet well before twenty one hundred so add ten feet to south Florida and he literally pulled up the maps and shows me what that looks like in all of south Florida now looks like the Florida keys and of course the Florida keys are long gone so if you have property on the coast of South Florida what do you think you should do right. A rational person would be selling it yesterday and mitigating anything that could be toxic there for future generations what the scientists is advocating. And instead you look down there and it's like every fourth building has a crane on it. I mean it's it's a construction zone. The real estate market is still going forward yet. You also simultaneously have thanks down there. That won't issue thirty year mortgages. Is that the truth. That's drinks the banks some of them. Well okay you went to the The burning rainforests in the Amazon Brazil right dams on rainforest. I got to go to camp. Forty one with Thomas Lovejoy the father diversity and the importance of biodiversity on the planet for all other species including our own can't be underscored and Amazon as most people listening probably already know is the most biodiverse rich place on the planet. And we're looking at it over this last year in two thousand nineteen burning at unprecedented rates and we are losing species before we know that they even exist and so much of our own medicine comes from there. We could be taking out species or allowing species to be taking out the could be producing antibiotics in the future. That could save our species. That's how important it is a hidden cost of climate. Change that we. We haven't even begun to major people. Just don't think about it right. And you saw the islands in the Bering Sea that teach you well. That was really indicative of many things to see of of off the coast of Alaska between Alaska and Russia and the collapsing food web. As you warm up the oceanic waters and the immediate and broad impact that has on marine species birds etc and then of course secondary to that to the people that rely on them the most directly which is the Aleutian people out there. You know I've been thinking a lot about how half of humanity is trying to live on five dollars a day for small holder farmers in the developing world. I think climate change hits the poorest people in the poorest countries hardest absolutely and that's why I went to those islands because there's two hundred and thirty four people live on Saint Paul Island year round. This is not a cash. Rich population their subsistence. They rely on fishing. And as so many other places around the globe it's usually the poorest and the indigenous people living in the most vulnerable communities that are feeling the quickest and the most intensely. This is travel through Steve. We've been talking with Dr Drew. His book is the end device bearing witness and finding meaning in the path of climate disruption. So Dr if we want to do all of our recycling and and drive energy efficient cars and paper straws. That's fine. It's it's a plus but if we want to really dig in and make a difference. I mean really get serious. What is your recommendation? Oh Gosh that's a that's a challenging question because I'm just committed to this notion that we can do all these personal hygiene things for the environment and that's nice in that sweet and raise our kids in boy scouts and girl scouts to do that kind of thing. But we gotta get serious politically and in the economy. I would think about this well. This is why there's groups like extinction rebellion. That are literally going out and trying to shut down parts of cities to make statements. Like look life as we're doing. It cannot continue. We have to disrupt the system. We have to force political leaders to pay attention and do the right thing. They're not doing it willingly. We know who they are being paid for by and so we have to force this change and so I think each person. Now we we stand at a point in history where each one of us has to decide okay given what's at stake literally possibly even the continuance of our own species and me being answerable the future generations of humans. What am I going to need to put on the line so that I can answer them with integrity and with dignity about knowing what we know right now. What's happening to the planet? What am I willing to do to force the change? That's necessary in my own life as well as on the broader scale. So I'm not ready to do civil disobedience. I'm ready to advocate in government and consume as if I can shape the future. By how a consume can you talk a little bit about those avenues for progress. Our hope it's everything counts. Is My broad? Brush stroke that you know all the personal stuff from you know how much I can lower my carbon footprint on an annual basis to advocating to what you're doing to offset travel all of that it counts in his important. I think each one of us I basically in the book talking about the importance of going into nature and listening and being really really quiet. In whether it's meditating or going to a mountain ridge or the ocean or a river but just really ask what can I do to serve the planet and then really really listen and I think whatever comes up that really moves me then? That's what I need to go do. And that's how I got the inspiration to do this book. And that's how I found the inspiration to do my next book which is on indigenous response to the climate crisis but the importance of listening which is essentially reminding people what indigenous populations voice known which the Earth will organize herself. The earth will give each one of US whatever our own personal unique messages to go due to serve. Her doesn't matter that the United States is not in the Paris climate accord. It really is important. The fact that one of the biggest co two emissions on the planet is not taking a leading role in the solution. It's actually a statement. It's a symbolic statement that you know not only are we gonna not take the lead and doing the right thing but we're going to just completely pull out not want to even be a cursorily part of the solution it's insulting and it's a statement and it's basically a thumbing of the nose at other countries which happens to be the majority of the rest of the world countries are at least acknowledging that there's a crisis whether or not they're doing enough. We didn't talk about that. But at least most of the rest of the world acknowledges certainly most European countries some of them some of the leading countries starting to make changes. It creates a forum where you can where you can challenge each other and share information right into constructive way right people in the United States that will counter by saying yeah but these poor countries are making a huge contribution to climate change. And and you're asking us to take more a financial hit. Then they'll take it just not fair. Well it is fair in that you if you look at co two emissions one of the leading amid on the planet era go. We have a responsibility to take on more of the burden for trying to find the solution. And it's simply if you look at per person. Co Two output By far and away Americans were one of the leading US China Russia India by. That's it you take those countries out of the picture and was far far far less of a crisis Dahr Jamail. Thank you so much for your commitment to this issue and working to raise awareness because we are all in this together. The book is the end of ice bearing witness and finding meaning in the path of climate disruption. Thanks Star thank you rick. He grew up in a small paper mill town on the Columbia River on a clear day. Dennis Hayes could see three snowcapped mountains he could also see mile wide clear cuts in the local forced the very waters that Lewis and Clark fished now had incidents where thousands of fish were killed off by effluent from the mill. The sent the locals called this smell of prosperity was actually laced with sulfur. Dioxide and hydrogen sulfide while the pulp mill provided an income for his father and most of his neighbors in chemist Washington. Dennis knew from an early age that if there was to be anything for future generations to enjoy we needed laws to protect the Environment Dennis as became the national coordinator of the first day in nineteen seventy and turned it into an international observance. Twenty years later. Let's take a moment to revisit. His comments which weird five years ago on travel with Rick Steves and to share his hopes for where we should be during Earth Days Fiftieth Anniversary which we observed lest month in the middle of a world of social distancing hundreds of millions of people in more than one hundred sixty nations pause each year on April twenty second to take some action for Earth Day. It's time to reflect on the only planet in the entire universe that we know is capable of supporting human life. Hi I'm Dennis. Hays Earth Day began in nineteen seventy in the United States as its first national coordinator. I'd say that it's made three valuable contributions I it created a big tent for everyone who shared environmental values long before Earth Day. Rachel Carson had poignantly described the ecological collapses caused by agricultural poisons and John Muir had extolled the vibrant grandeur of untrammelled wilderness activists in vibrant inner city communities. Were already protesting. Plans to plough. Eight Lane. Freeways through their living room and parents were terrified to learn the children breathing. The polluted air of Los Angeles were inhaling the equivalent of two packs of cigarettes a day but none of these interest groups are hundreds of others realize that they had anything in common with one. Another birthday wove them all into something. More than the sum of the parts of the shared fabric of modern environmentalism. The second Earth Day established that economic growth was not the only thing of importance to the American public. The gross domestic product does not measure the quality of our lives the robustness of our health creativity of our artists. Or the love that we have for one another and for olive creation audited. Financial statements contain entries for the bill of rights or for biodiversity. Third Birthday was about solutions. Human said made all these problems in humans could unmake them in the three years following that first th day we pushed through the clean air. Act The clean water. Act The safe. Drinking Water Act the endangered species. Act The Marine Mammal Protection Act and the Occupational Health and Safety Act. We also created the Environmental Protection Agency. Even though I was just twenty five years old at the time I was recruited by Senator Gaylord Nelson to be the national coordinator of the Campaign. My first sense of the troop magnitude of the new force. We unleashing came in New York. City is on a seventy foot high stage to address a crowd that packed the entire great lawn of central park. In fact it even spilled down Sixth Avenue farther than the I could see. The official police estimate of the crowd size at just that one. Manhattan location was more than a million people with twenty million participants nationwide Earth Day was the largest organized demonstration in American history but why throughout nature the most powerful drive of living things is for survival and the power of Earth Day lay in ability to tap that core instinct. For the fiftieth anniversary of Earth Day. We need to find ways to tap into that survival instinct once again. Just imagine what we can do if we can work together to address the new global threats that we all have to confront Dennis. Hayes is President of the nonprofit bullet foundation in Seattle. His website has information about a book. He and his wife Gail wrote called cowed. The hidden impact of ninety three million cows on America's health economy politics culture and environment. It's at Dennis. Hays Dot Com. And that's Dennis with one m travel. With Rick Steves is produced at Rick Steves Europe Edmonds Washington by Tim. Tappan is a Kaplan wallner. 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BREAKTHROUGH - Double Toasted Audio Review

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BREAKTHROUGH - Double Toasted Audio Review

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And I'm there as I told Martin I stopped going to church when I was eighteen years old and God finally figured out a way to get my s out of bed on Sundays for religion got me. It took us some time to find me if it's not a faith based movie, it's a Tyler Perry movie. It's a tie. And that's that's the same thing you go to church and both of them got me. So I'm there, and but you non fair with these things I'll tell you man, I go see these movies in. I like to be surprised. I don't want to go in just make fun of these films often in that I'm there to review not to mock, there would open mind even about on greed. With everything that I see there. And this is the movie that we're talking about here breakthrough. It actually could be something that has an interest outside of its its religious tone and message because what this is about Mona's this racial troops store of a kidney, John Smith. Keo? It's not real. Can't Smith really he kit kit with such generic navy to kill himself, people take no. Because that's what he did. This is Johnson with John Smith went out with two of his friends. Awesome thin ice in out there. Messing around him some themes. Some guy told me he said, you always get like, oh, fuck you all. And right at the right after he said that spoof. Golden and not all three of them fell through. But he was the only one that they couldn't get out of the frozen water. Now, what happened here is that when well, he's the most most ethnic one. So I feel like he's the one who didn't try to net hard with who's to miss him back one on leapt on his head. Trump's america. No, Trump wouldn't even around at the time. This is twenty fifteen January twenty fifteen so he is under the ice. He's there for fifteen minutes before any kind of rescue people come out with the fire department anyone. So when they get their like he did. Yeah. We, hey, we got frozen Mexico. Zama somebody some Chambal. Yes. A nothing help him. But. There was still something there. You know, they do do diligence. They had to take him to the hospital and to do that thing. Right. When they were about to pronounce him dead. It was it was. Listen to the story was through the power prayer is mother and his mother just being by side that is considered to be the thing that brought him back from the dead. Oh. And you've heard the story. Yeah. I did. And then afterwards he's able to touch people and see the future the future with them. Stephen King road is called a deadzone. No. Now's close Martin. I I really wouldn't. Appreciate appreciate you making fun of my Lou and sabre while I'm trying to talk about this. You know, come on sound like he's ripping on statements. But not you tell me. Yes. East of Martin? I really appreciate you respected and not make a mockery out of. This is boy came back from the dead and only did he come back from the dead. But a lot of people say that you know, what? I wasn't in that water. I didn't almost die. But. He also influenced me to change my life better. He brought me metaphorically back from the days. No doubt. You wonder what let's go ahead and take a look at the trailer for breakthrough. I will be back with my review. Rise and shine Arcus ready in ten minutes and don't make me come back up there. This is our town. It's a close knit community again a place where everyone knows everyone. I missed. Hey girls, and we're always there for each other sermon. Pastor you guys have onto the rest of that has a basketball game. Yeah. Seen this duping up around here. This kid is so lit. Texture moms monta when and where pick you up. Do anything stupid. Got Dan mice. With my tissue off of it. Off the ice weight training for the Olympic, sir. Oh, this is like how much more we can we make him trying to put the Olympic swim team. Keep talking NFL. Emme? He's been underwater for more than fifteen minutes. It's going to be a recovery rescue. Luke cage. If done everything medically possible is nothing more. We can do. Please. Speared Tuesday must. A fourteen year old sage Charles boy who spent fifteen minutes trapped underwater is continuing to fight for his life. John Lewis by the night. You don't know my son? He is a fighter sweaty you to be. Cried in joy, I can't wait to see because baskets run down again. Smith family ask for one thing. Please pray for John. In the water that day. I was really within his voice telling me back there. I'm nuts or gods talking. But I don't believe in God. I believe the maybe that only goes to five something like this. Your pastor. I'm supposed to walk alongside you for as long as it tastes. Did you see the face with patients on viral? Call me. I was going to be okay. Four gonna get for this along. If you have for me. From told. No. I want to say first of all I don't I don't know this kid John Smith, the subject of this movie right here. I don't know anything about him. I don't know how accurate the depiction of him in the movie is, but I will tell you the movie version of here. I couldn't wait for his asphalt. When he felt that I cheered. I was sitting up there guys counting the minutes when he phone going. I can't wait cause in the movie. The movie version of John is a bitch. John John Smith, the movie version, I don't know what this kid is like realize, but the movie version of John just full of disrespect just walking around because he's having a hard time. You know, which when I say hard time. Oh, I'm adopted. Okay. House. I okay. This kid has to be adopted. Right. The income from either one of those two. No, no, he's he's adopted. And you know, what here's don't don't get me wrong. I get it. You know because he's at that age. Even no matter how how much kid has been loved. He always wanted to have that question. You know, about his real mom Huckabee won't be, you know, I get it. Yeah. And plus in when it gets really rough because I've gone through this where you know, the classes required to have a family tree. You gotta get up. And until everybody why the treated wants you. Is hard understand John within. Smith. Nice to join us this morning. The truck you. I'm ready to do over port. Okay. So I'm John Smith. Most of you Norman opted. I come from a small town in Guatemala Colson. Sorry. I don't know who my biological mother is but. Just that she didn't want me. Joyce Brian Smith adopted me when I was nine months old. They went down there on a mission strip, and they ended up coming home with me. Probably because I'm so cute. No. But yeah. Tells them jokes. That is Marcel Ruis we actually plays John Smith, and you know, and he's too good. Because you you don't like the kid even when he's talking about him doctor because. Even though he's real mom new one. It'd be probably in the probably was better off of that. Sure. 'cause while what a mile and mom and dad and one them white mom and dad had given him everything they giving him a nice home. They love on him. They let him get away with talking back. Sometimes. At school. He's got friends. He's like, he's an outcast. They love. They love John seems jars jars great at basketball, coach loves them, the kids all that. He says, I'm cute like kids are whispering. Yeah. Yeah. My sit him down and say, okay. What is still got attitude? Even though he has all these he still I would I would take wine, but he just calmly when you you know, every dolt is trying to John what's going on. Well, you, you know. Parents they call with John John gets away with things that even white kids get slapped for all of a sudden out of out of these love and parents who played by Josh Lucas in Chrissy Mets. Even then that just like, oh, it's just it's just a thing. Like that part where he's talking about what they say don't do stupid. He's like, hey, hey, mom and dad, I love you. Drowning stupid. They dubbed that in. No, he looks. He looks as Dan you like, okay, Brian, whatever, you know, that dad while Bryant in even when mom's like, you're not going to be and he's like, oh, we need to back off. It's the phase, you know, let them have some space. They give this kid everything he wants. If there's one reason why I believe in this movie would make me believe in God is because only guy would look at this. And actually do that to a kid that deserves it was almost like God was looking at John got some for your. Keep fucking around got some for you. Walking keep walking right there. And by the time the move is done. John humble that motherfucker. Fuck. John mail. No, man, you're, sir. No, sir. Thank you again. Thanks, dan. A love you. Gaza got him, right? You keep playing Knicks drop you as lava keep playing. Can't couldn't stand this kid man at the moves had Mickey the opposite. You know, I'm supposed to care. We'll one. Oh, yeah. Leaves as an another fifteen minutes. He ain't done yet. The hell with John. But. Outside of that. What you probably wondering is how much the religious part plays into. This is a faith based Bill and for good reason that criticized for being sermons in for having too much of an agenda coming in and putting us too much of a religious slant on things to the point where you just cornea may not that you have anything against religion. In a faith-based film. I mean, that's their movie. But even then even some faith people would be like man come. I get it. I go to church there's that there's there's being overbearing and having the cheapest of TV production values there is that. And as mentioned, you know, this is a faith based movie you're going to get that in this. When like when you get when when the movie starts, man. The three minutes in you praying about please. Can this be over? You know, you. Six minutes in you, saying the pledge of allegiance because you got the American there to American God, ten minutes you in church, not in a sermon. But you they have a dramatic scene in church where everybody's book reading club in church. So big play their heavy that's going to be there. What you want to know about is the stuff that they just go broad with just what did they just make up, you know, in this movie too where they forced God in here to really make this narrative like mixing. It's a true miracle from the man himself. Well, I bit. There are some things that are accurate, and there are some things where. They just made shit up. There's no other way to say that I will give them credit here. You have to read up on the movie before you go in and try to criticize heavily again. I didn't look at this rolling. My eyes Gaden do that. You know? I I want to look at it and see what was accurate and what wasn't. Yeah. Turns out that mom, praying Justice. Smith is is his mom name. Mom, Joyce Smith. I'm sorry. Joy turns out that mom praying next to John actually was. Something that was that really happened. Spirit must. Like shit. It worked. Really? I was just taking a guest and if I could hit the number next. See but gonna go by six. Lose everything. But you still have John. Yes, mice. John actually 'cause money we think about taking his back. Nah, man, turns out that her praying over him. Caused a his post to comeback. Now. Of course, you can say either way, I don't want argue it, you know, if that's what if that's if that's what you know Joyce believes and it worked so be it. You could argue that she just responded to our he just respond to her voice. There's no way to prove that that wouldn't have happened. Whether she was there, not exactly exactly. So I'm not gonna argue where the guy had a hand in this. You know, I'm that's it that really worked for you. Then doesn't I don't even wanna ruin that moment for you. Great. That's fine. But then we get two points ages. I mean, this is. This is a religious faith based filming y'all sending y'all's as just lying. Lying that part with the with the Mike Colter. Yeah. Mike Colter plays a. Tummy shy real tummy, Sean beside that's the size the size shine. What you call me this your name, right? Yes. Tommy shine. It is. Yeah. When the when he goes out to save the kid in the movie, they say that. He heard a voice a mysterious voice. I was telling him to go forward in the water that day. I was ready to give his voice telling me back there. I'm nuts or God's talking to you. But I don't believe in God. That means you're fucking nuts. Or maybe it was his dispatcher on the radio. Keep going same that kid that's given up. We'll see. No. That's what he thought. He thought that that all of that what you're saying? He'd thought somebody was on shore yelling at him. He thought maybe somebody had on those telling me to go and everybody unless they were just fucking. When we all yell at me. In my Saint, Tommy. This is gonna keep going. No. Crazy. Negro? What's not good for you? Fuck it with him at home. Tommy, this is gone. Did you take out the trash? This is God. We know you're looking at porn right now. Well, you. Nah, man. This is so. There's an article that I went to look at about this. And they say that. All right. It may be if you don't want to lie. It's it's an exaggeration. This is the history history Hollywood history versus Hollywood, oh did John's rescue Tommy shine really here voice when he was in the water, tell him to keep searching. They say this is somewhat dramatic dramatic drop. Dramatizing the movie in the possible book joy Smith mentions that something Tommy shine spirit prompted almost pushed him to move in that direction, so in that's her point of view. No voice of guy was telling me to do that. You know, if anything he says, I yeah. Okay. Yeah. She says I was inclined to keep going because something was pushing me. Sure, sure. Which just beat like his humanity the doing that too. But again, I don't know. But it definitely wasn't God. Like, hey negro. Doing. Hey. Don't have to go on. It isn't God fucking John. No, no. And been there things in there that yeah, they're parts here where they do just turn into something. That's really corny. There's a part where all of Josh's schools and people who know I mean, John, Josh. But John all people John classmates, some some parents in the community and whatnot they come out to hope vigil outside of his hospital window, and that's moving man is actually really cool to see them support of John. But then, of course, one of one black girl gets the spirit. John. We hope you live in the invisible Bank kicks in. And they all joining as a course this everybody starts. Yeah. They a church choir music, musical instruments that are not out there. They all this concert at this point. You notice like, okay, get going got kicked in a little bit. And brought in the musical the company as Mary. You know, it was like, okay, come. All right. Come on. And this is at a moment with things actually gone will feel infants on like why doing this? You didn't need this. They could have somebody could have sing amazing grace acapella, and why would that would have been fine. We're right. Right. Right. Right. And have to have it got them gospel sexy. Right. About this shirtless. Working. Do believe in God. But the the thing that works with the movie. Is one this the film it it? It helps to have a budget. Look these movies that can be made like a million less and make ten million. That's great business. I'm not going say don't do that. If you can get by with that, that's fine. But it's just a relief to go and see that's what I noticed about. This looks much better than the other ones you've been reviewing. Plus, it's got several known actors in here. It's loud. I'm shocked to see in this thing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean. It's the relief to watch a faith based movie that doesn't like it was shot on the set of a Mexican soap opera on shot like a local commercial or something as such a relief to see in. I got I gotta get into the movies corner for something else. This. If if I say nothing else nice about this Phil which I probably will. But if I don't I got a commended for this one thing that is getting right? What other movies? These days are getting absolutely wrong to the point in making me may. Okay. Thank you is another reason, this might make me believe in God it finally feels like it's the real school. Oh, yeah. Martin. Yeah. Forget teachers doing their job. There are dolts in the Bill. I know it's come down to that's all I want. Now. It's just mid realistic. Just have some adults in the building somewhere. I can just see the Janada an adult. Oh, but the teachers are doing their jobs. The teachers are teaching the breaking up fights before they even star good for the bully and actually kill somebody the kids the kids are actually there. This look, this ain't movie school like another movies where move, you know, y'all know movie movie school is like pre K to seniors in high school all go to. This feels like a middle school. All these kids hanging out together. They all feel like real kids. Josh is not picked on fake. One do trust to bullet Johnson Justice Decky column. Josh John one John is not picked on by anybody. In fact, one Billy tries to start somewhere. John and John's like what you they have a little. Yeah. A little word back and forth in actual dot comes in and says, boys. Whoever raised the next hand the fucking. He's like I'm gonna I'm gonna bench you punishment? Yeah. Yeah. This is say what you will man. But this this this out of this movie, this based movie, this is the most realistic depiction of school that net got them animated penguin movie. Okay. A cartoon penguin moving faith-based film, getting a school down realistically, like no other movie out this the bullies aren't running over cripple kids with their cars. No. If they, you know, somebody stops them before they get a chance to kill each other. As an actual dull here before this shit turns hunger games kid. There's no reason. Thank god. I didn't think anybody would was capable of doing this on film anymore. But it's it's also the cast man you mentioned the cast. Yeah. I'm seeing Josh Lucas and Tofa grace and Guinness Hayes, and it's funny too. Because I love the cast, and I'm almost hasn't say that because I feel like somebody will try to pull reverse racism on me 'cause they black washing here. They you have Dennis Hays bird. Yeah. Dennis Hayes bird is Dr Garrett. Dr Jeremy gab Garrett tell you Lou Caja Michael to he he's Tommy shine almost ain't they cast the black man just to fit that native. Right. Because that do like the real people actually white, man. It is. Late show some some dark end who's related even tried to meet them halfway with biracial. Right, right. Win black. They say your name. What time Tommy son? No, man. Do. I think they chose dinners eight, but just to make you believe you. This kid is fucked. The two actual guys doctor and Tommy shine a love to be sitting next to them at the premiere. Come on. Just take this slowly had my camera. Stamp. I think that's what duct Garrett like watching the movie. Both. I'm looking at this. Tommy, silently, we. That's not me. You told me George Clooney would be. Did you really? Komo joking. Played around. Cancelled. He wouldn't have got my culture. Philip Mike, Tom. Tommy, I better get Kevin Hart. Lisa. We got you talk tall dark handsome black. Extra Matala mood. On a black one and black actors like even black people on. Like this guy. In the cast is really good, man. Toper grace grace. He plays of the past impasse to Jason forgot to pass Jason's last night. But but he plays because he's so likable, man. And the thing is Tova grace can be very likable, but he the plays somebody who's never she and likable or he play somebody who's who's an asshole comes off his Weasley. And you just you just he's irritating. No, right. He, you know, he's saying this looks like MOS likable role. No, this is actually one of the better rose that I've seen you know, because he's such a likable guy. And it's hard not to like him. Because he he's that that that that that hipster pastor he wants to get all the kids to like him. So he t t changes church into Coachella. So it's like they got like. Not like him. He's a bad like he's some shut and Taylor's. Got a flower shirt. Some skinny jeez. I got most sued. And he's like he don't he don't stand behind like poop in like, he gets you know, kind of kneels down hits his what's don't. Yes, let's read these days. So, hey, who watches the bachelor? Anybody wants to rat? Let me know. Hit me up on my space. But you want to go to the Turk band plan. He brought him his rapid is mostly white church. Flicks up John little quantum sitting there. But is fighting. Because one of the things movie doesn't try to hide on like yet. He's these people just racist as they do. They always say they like they bring like when the when the like, the alternative white band is playing like, you know, fam- here by the dose like they all do that Christian dance. You know, they wave inside to. But but then yo yo you'll give for God start. Get scared when the repre comes up the black rapper. The whole church loses is nigger they start getting scared master, look med. And they don't say like mom just kind of when I was just raised on hymns is like not you raised on white. Because you were you having a good time when that band was playing may come out with with these Louis Loxton everybody scared. I just noticed that trailer when she was saying, we're a tight knit community. And whenever I hear those words somebody's saying it, and they're proud of it. I get a little skeeve. I'm like, I feel like this code for something. Yeah. Yeah. You know? It's a, but they don't play it up too much. But you know, like, I said man, you know, they really wanna make this feel good. So, you know, it's. It's good. I mean, he's like his character. A lot in the film. In the. Like the way they they they did some of the casting here. While you know, they they they they blackwash some things, you know, some things were good casting. You know? Marcel Ruez, you know, he's he is he's an actor. So he's a more handsome version of the real John's of real John John Smith, but it's not too far off, man. You know, they Brown. Yeah. Yeah. You may be a racist. But I looked like it was still they didn't try to you know. The kids are bad looking either, you know, so that helps not, but at least they didn't go too far off. Josh Lucas is good in the movie as the dad, and I'll talk about him in a minute. But the real person who selling this is Chrissie Mets, Chrissy mess that you know, from this is us. I've watched the show. Great good. Her movie, man, really. I mean, she's the one that's spends a lot of time just trying to convince people that, you know, John's don't make it because it's so many people just in the bag that just don't care like because you could hear like parents there, and they bring the kids, and they're like a look on the what you crying, you might you might as well get used to this book on you know, he ain't coming back this. I don't know why you keep whispering to somebody needs to know that that he's not coming back in John is gone. We hate seeing her like this. And so you you really get caught up in her believing that, you know, John's gonna make you. You you really root for both her and John. That's the good thing about it you root for John to make. Okay, John is fighting so hard, man. You know, he's in a coma for seventy two hours. And she's just there by his side, the whole time, and you can't I mean when you see that, you know, it's a mother's love, man. Even in even in even needs something more that she's the adopted mom, you, you know, you just really just moved by this painful to watch a goal through this and have to convince everybody, including doctors that no my son. I know he's going to make it. He's responded to me. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't believe John Lewis of the night. If you have family friends that you want to call to come to see John. I would be the time to close the folder on them too. Evan told you're the best doctor Garrett. Will maybe. He's earnings. Slows the folder and everything. Moments starts. Oh, wait a minute. Hold on tell me more about how great I on. I'm an expert field man till you're the best world renowned and fact. Who was misinformed? No, you're not. I know. My Joan is a fighter. I need doesn't give up. So I need you to go and be the best for Joan nothing less. Then you just let God do the rest. I'm trying to put a loss. No, no, you're you're the best. Well, maybe I am. Maybe I'm not I say, yeah, I'm pretty good. Quick remember that I find myself in that situation. Just played it at ego again. He was out the best lesson. The best. Some people say it's arguable by not by mini. He's got a brain numb boy back but Frankenstein's do. Do. God is better. Let even that's questionable. On a good day. Could be me. Quick. Chrissy Mets though, man. I'm actually worked his ass. Conned shit. I didn't know how to reputation, but she's she's one of the thing. One of the things we love about a casting is that. They didn't try to listen. I'm not saying anything bad. I'm I'm happy about this. She is known as being a plus size Actimel, wait acting or actress, and they didn't try to slim down and get somebody who was skinny to play this role which closer even bigger than the actual Ma. Joyce Smith and kind of close. Yeah. You pull out when you it out and see the full body. But I'm not even making fun. I think that's great. Because you know, I just got through seeing a movie where the it was that abortion movie and the actual woman as being portrayed in the movie. She she is not a skinny actress. But they they found us can't ask a woman play Iraq. Because they think that's what audience was wanna see. Right. Well, it's what a lot of regular people. Wanna see? I'm just wondering if the real joy Smith was like, Ooh, I wonder if they don't get Sandra Bullock to place. Well, I'm just going to be surprised the person they had the same hair color. Komo maybe Julianna, Margaret Lee. You know, I was led. They didn't do that. They didn't try to you know. They gave the trying to give a funny overweight. The husband, you know, Josh, Lucas is the husband and handsome guy. You don't even think about it. When you watch the movie is how how well they worked together drummer really plays. Well, when the drama is actually left alone too. Act as always liked. I was sorry. He kinda disappeared. Yeah. Yeah. It was too man. You know, y'all have seen Josh Lucas before see if I can find a picture of and Josh Lucas at one time people talking about this guy being captain America. Yeah. I thought he would have been good. Although I don't know if he's tolerant, but yeah, he does kind of like Chris Evans in a way he was Chris Evans before Chris, right? They just waited too long to make the movies even got the captain America beard. Everything. Just old in the shield. You could have been me should have been me. Yeah. You see them together? Man. You don't think about oh. You know, this handsome, go overweight. This woman that's not realistic as late night. You don't think about that? Man. They actually very well together in the movie again because the both morning over John. Which is like say, the hardest film and the thing that really pulls you in. A like when the movie is not. Is not being too heavy with the faith based film. But like I said sometimes you can just pulled back and let that play on naturally jer. Because there's so many things that they do well in this film. When I talk about love Chrissy Mets. I love that. She starts to like get on people's nerves. There's a woman who's mourning. But when she starts excuse me. It's that she's under so much pressure getting to sleep. She just starts getting a little kind of push around people. I mean, he's doctors that do that job. Yeah. And but she doesn't understand a kid. He doesn't wanna hear anything bad going on. She doesn't want this treated like a regular, you know, a patient. She doesn't want him called patients. You want him called by wasn't called John. And she's going make sure that everybody on staff does that like she's like she's running the hospital, you all speak life over John. I make myself clear Smith we really didn't mean to actually do. I make myself clear. Children. Plo is talking to me like they'll put you right in next to his. Yeah. But they address that in the movie. Okay. The address that they talk about you know, how she's being there's even a part in near the review these even apart in in the in the movie where the only they don't have any answers for religion. There's an adult. I'm not gonna ruin too much with adult that ask that has John. This woman says John, you know, why why you what God choose you. And not me when I had somebody that I was praying for. In John straight. I don't know in terms Wassall guy likes me better. I'll tell you. I didn't meet him when I went under, you know. I just I just he just brought me back. Okay. So the real John Smith he hasn't come back with all kinds of visions of seeing God. Or he's up proselytizing. I don't know if he's doing that. But they have said what he wants to do is. They said, you know, he's into sports in that lettuce. And he wants to be a pastor. That's it. You know? I mean, they didn't say too much about it. He's not talking about, you know, God is hanging out with me every night. You know, he's told he told me I'm better than you kind of stuff. Not. It's not like that, man. It's it's there's a because they have such a good cast. And because they have a very compelling story a lot of this works. But then a lot of it again comes in. And they in his just undermined by the things that they don't need to do. You can put them messaging net, even people who aren't religious affairs. You know, the people who aren't believers are faithful people. They'll still be able to like deal winning. I mean, they know what kind of movie this is it's a little heavy hand in those areas. When athlete does not need to be. They have a story that really speaks for itself. But again, you know. No, it's not I'm not the target audience. Maybe it works better for some other people out there. But I give it average rental. Just you know, rental right? It's really that said it is one of the better faith-based movies. I've seen out there for a lot of reasons on the production side for a lot of reasons that go with the writing when it doesn't get into way, but self out of curiosity, which one did you like better this or I can only imagine. It's a good question. Man. I'm thinking might like him both the same. But for different reasons. Yeah. I think because they both. They both head. I can only imagine really had that rise to fame story near that works again when it gets kinda too heavy with religious stuff that might get in the way, but it still works. This has a story of this kid by boys life, and that works kind of like the way, you know, different way kind of like the way it did. Great question, by like the way, it did with with only imagine, you know, you there's a part of the story here. That's compelling. No matter what are entertaining, no matter. So you can you can look past that and does make you wish like all right? You know wish this was not targeting. It's it's demographic so hard that they had to like make it feel like something's things were forced in there. Yeah. But I still enjoyed it man. It's not. I I've read some reviews of it where I think people are. Going in pretty hard on this just because you know, it is a God movie. Well, I mean from the things you not just from the things you say, but the things I see in the trailers, it looks like a cut above the average faith-based movie. Yeah. Yeah. I'm evil. Roll your eyes. Yes, I'm silly things. But but for the most part. Man. It's it's not bad. It's just like, it's just a rental. Okay. If done everything medically possible is nothing more with you. Please. Speared Tuesday must.

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E31: Honey Bee cocktail, Vanessa Honey Malone, and Ira Einhorn aka The Unicorn Killer

Killer Cocktails

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E31: Honey Bee cocktail, Vanessa Honey Malone, and Ira Einhorn aka The Unicorn Killer

"Hey, guys. You are listening to killer cocktails where the drinks are stiff, but the bodies are stiffer. This is a casual true crime podcast where two friends get drunk and talk about gruesome murders each week. We pick a different drink whose name or ingredients set the tone for our stories. Hey, guys, this Dreyer this Jackie. We are coming back for another episode killer. Cocktail you can't bring us down. No. I don't know that anyone try. No, no, one has Euler so nice. So this week we are drinking kind of a weird combination of drinks redoing. You know, how so hybrid is kind of the word oh hybrid between two different drinks. And it made me think of how there are hybrid B's. Will they don't know what we're drinking at Jackie O wanting to? Okay. So we are drinking a hybrid of the king be and the honeybee convenience us Janke. Would you like to continue with your thought that was kind of the end of? Okay. I I knew the title of bees. And so I made a hybrid beach memo and killer bees was like killer bees. All yeah. A hybrid be that was Jackie much smoke much ABI smoke. We're going to be the end of bees. Now. I know we're the oh our generation people are gonna be endangered KAI Aina who open up right now. Do I was driving with my sister. We were coming up from Bishop California headed up three ninety five we were on our way to Reno to cut over and get back to the bay. And we're driving think my mom's little Mazda protege a little tiny silly car Amer driving along. And then just all the sudden like. The whole windshield covered. Can't see anything. I mean like pullover. We had driving down the highway hit a swarm of bees that was traveling on its way. Yeah. We held win those down like bees were in the car these wrong windshield. It was beat down USA. And we were both scared of the b we pulled them like come Ronald way from the car fees was like top black sheep, Tommy one of those movies. But then it settles in that. You you killed a whole swarm of bees couldn't. Yeah. Swerve away from swarming fees. But they do pollinate crops that goes on my life. If I kill one Bs kill now, an accident car new don't do that faith that was on the voice back from Big Sur, don't you? Do that face. I for that my face very that was the big one back to drink. Because that's why y'all are here you here for booze and murder stories. Another Tuesday night. All right. So Monday night for them. Monday. You know, you don't know actually Wednesday for us. He's alive. It's not Tuesday. Okay. So what we did was we looked at the king be and we're like the drink are like your earth as coming up. We should do an Earth Day drink. So we're like cool pick something. She's like boom king be like love it. So I went to go pick up everything and got the London. Dry gin, boom got the fresh lemon the Honey stir up. And then there's this beautiful thing called Saint George basil in Dubai and is job. Thank you. I those probably completely wrong. But there you and I went to this is the big liquor short town the good one, they got everything in their amazing. They a little tall. I love them. In who I go there. And they're like, we don't have that. We have all this other stuff. And this is in the absence family apparently infused with basil because at that earthy kind of tone to it, but it went in and they had other Georgia's, and they were all sixty five in up a bottle spendy, George. I love y'all. But there's no way I'm going to spend that much on a ball liquor. So we then turn to the honeybee recipe, and this one is dark room Honey syrup, and lemon, and we tried that. And that was like all right, then we're like, we have this Basil's still we out that basil though, we put them basil in there, and that was Alicia, so this is a honeybee with some basil. Yeah. This is a king bee and honeybee and they had a baby. Yeah. Baby for Earth Day, which can I so what when is say it's today for them listening. But it's April twenty second. No, that's wrong. No, it is Earth Day is every day. Oh my God. Here the worst. I am. Yes. Jackie every day every day. So quickly back to the cocktail. How do you like this cocktail? I really like it. Ooh. That like very Hinton basil Basil's, a good addition. And you guys I'm not big Honey fan, but this is Honey syrup. So you do three two one two water. You are not a Honey drop. It Beth intense flavor. We never got back to your story about spices. We'll talk about that. Like, listen when I order a hamburger. I just want me bun and catch up. I'm okay, I'm not gonna shit. Let us off my. I'm not going to give you a hard time about it. Because you're talking to someone who teenager, no j I get it. And I ordered burgers that way for like I didn't want to catch ups and intense flavor at the catch up in there. I want to catch up the meat. Off the me, Patty cheese. But like because everything else is detracting from the flavor of me. So I get where your head's Ailey. I'm bout. No, I still I still will order in and out now I'll order the way you're supposed to. But every once in a while. I you supposed to with all the stuff on. Yeah. But every it'll attention, I love good plain cheeseburger. I know that makes me a child, but I I hear you have about I hear you clicking big chicken. And I'm there when we came back from the work event in Washington Aileen cooled over like, it was crazy. I pulled up with everybody, and we went to lunch together. Hin? I ordered a burger annals like listen. I just wanna need you guys did not get static about this. You know, this cheeseburger with bacon, I want this cheese burger with bacon without cheese. Then I want you to hold all the vegetables, and she's like, so you just want the meet the bacon in the bun and Jake just looks at me. I mean, it sounds good. What the fuck do like, dude? This is what I want. Yeah. Don't judge me until we I can handle the other stuff from peer pressure standpoint. But I respect that order. I'm just and I know even on the plate, and I know we're ridiculous. But I respect it. Thank you. All right. So overall, I would highly recommend this cocktail I would too don't do the Saint George while Papa booted just leave that for another. You know, what if you're made money, and you know, gold Doubloon Zor banging around in your pocket. Go for it. Do it. Give us everyday phot-. Let's hang out. So that was the cocktail lemme tell you about Earth Day 'cause you guys the reason why we picked this cocktail laws prize me with these apprised facts about the day. I'm excited to learn about her they which is technically every day. All right. All right. So the first Earth Day celebrations took place in nineteen seventy I was gonna guess in the seventies. It's the Senate is not only is it the time of the prime, but it's a very earth conscious time, and it's the beginning. It's the peak. It's the tip of their of the seventies. So Earth Day celebrations, we're talking about two thousand colleges and universities roughly ten thousand primary and secondary schools and hundreds of communities across United States are participating in this first Earth Day. It's read more importantly, brought twenty million Americans out into the spring sunshine for peaceful demonstrations in favor of environmental reform. So it's Brad it is now served in one hundred ninety two countries and it's bread with spread and coordinated by the nonprofit Earth Day network in its chaired by the first Earth Day organizer Dennis Hayes, according to whom Earth Day is now the largest secular holiday in the world really rated by more than a billion people every year. I'm impressed. By its scope that rat. Yeah. Environmental groups have sought to make Earth Day into a day of action to change human behavior and provoked policy changes. I like it Jackie. What can we do? To celebrate Earth Day, we can opt out of driving our cars for the day. We can ride your bike. You can take you know, like a transportation with other people a bus. If you will we a scooter if you're so inclined off on little to me, we're going to run you can recycle. You can reinvest in re reusable coffee cups and straws. He's K cups, man. There are greener options to the cake Cup. They've got really recyclable ones. Yeah. You can just get outside and enjoy nature. You could be why grocery bag. Oh, yeah. That's a big one. And then I don't know try being a flexible -tarian and cut down on some meat consumption. So there's some there's some options out there. If you wanna help celebrate the earth and get us back to a good place. My sister was vegetarian for a little bit. And we were I think this is what I was on my sabbatical. So I knew she was going to come. So I bought a bunch of like vegetarian options like keeping the cooler for the parts that she was with me. And I was impressed by an and slowly you'll encounter more vegetarians vegans within your life, and they'll make delicious meals for your like, I'm not a vegetarian vegan. But I really appreciate that meal. So I will definitely incorporate that into all make vegetarian meals for myself and being meals for myself. You do Affleck's tasty. Yeah. Get some more veggies. And it's just good for your health. Yeah. You feel you feel like you're not only like, yeah. Accomplish something. Eight my teeth guy. So yeah that is oh. And then if you're wondering about the history of this cocktail couldn't find Jack shit about it. So it's the be lobby. It's be lobbies behind it. So just know it's tasty. Some people invetment into it. Great. I'm gonna speak out of the side of my head right now. There is an idea that if you have allergies that consuming local honeys can help curb some of the symptoms because if it's local bees that are pollinating the local stuff and you're eating that Honey somehow science that's like if. That's if you are eating local crops in meats and stuff. Yeah. 'cause like a lot of it is. Yeah. The ideas that you're getting some of that. Yeah. I don't little trick. You know, Jackie before we jump into the murder. Yeah. Kinda wanted to shadow our listeners. They're great. They're amazing shot at them. British to shout out. Sometimes our level are spike levels. Are we? Yeah. Yeah. Sorry about that guys. But we've been looking at the data, and I just kind of wanted to shout out the five top states in five top cities that have been listening to us in the United States. Can I guess if I've type still fun? Yes. Go K, California. Yes, oregon. Yes, missouri. No, why would you seri-? Actually, it's number six that will really know that 'cause I looked longtime. I saw some zuri creeping. Missouri. Thank you now, Washington. Yeah. Yeah. Texas. Yes, we'll more. Massachusetts. No, New York. All right. You guys if you're from California, Oregon, Texas, Washington, your Amazon, why not y'all are top six states listening to us. And that is RAD. Thank you so much in just 'cause I love data. We're going to go into cities. Now, do you? Yeah. Let's go for you. I'm not going to get that's hard. We got Portland. Los Angeles, bend, Oregon, San Francisco in New York. Yeah. New York in just because I want to Canada on -tario British Columbia and Cisco and see you listened to us. Thanks, man, u k east riding of Yorkshire still hold out strong. Thank you. Then we got Belfast. And then we got a crazy name. I don't even know how to say it. Of so sorry. Go closure. This Gluck to chard look at it. Okay. You lost your Shire? You know, who you are? And thank you, you cool town. You'll thank you so much for listening to us. Thank you for telling your friends about us and your family, even though they don't wanna hear true crime anymore. No. But we do so talk to us. Yeah. Come at us. Thank you guys are Jaggi murder. Speaking of murder time, you're gonna tell me about some writer. All right. So on October twenty third two thousand twelve all right recently, Vanessa Honey Malone is your has matai putting. Figure that out Vanessa Honey Malone. She gets off work or mom picks her up her mom's aim is flora flora Malone. Honey is eighteen still living at home her mom picks her up takes her back. And she's kind of talking about how tired she it like. So this is talking about how tired she is after her day at work, then she kind of abruptly like, hey, I'm going out later, which is not abnormal for her to go out at night. But her mom, it kinda struck her mom is odd. Given how she'd been talking about how tired she was. So obviously, some sort of phone call come in some sort of text she'd been alerted some capacity where she's like, hey, I'm gonna go out. Something is obviously drawing her out of the house. So then sometime later her mom, here's what she thinks is fireworks coming from the apartment complex next door. Okay. Then all the sudden there is like really hectic knocking at her front door. So the mom goes down. She answers the door. It is this guy to two men at the door. One of them is honey's ex-boyfriend. He's last night. He's to Kevin and his friend Chris to Kevin Chris or bang on the front door, the monsters the door, and they proceed to tell her that something has happened to Honey. Okay. So they go and the these two dudes live at the complex next door. So the mom calls her sister. So when all the noises, it happened her mom had called Honey and had called her sister was like, hey, hear these noises, are you girls? Okay. And that's like a normal thing for her to do when Honey didn't pick up. Our mama's like, oh, she's like with she didn't think anything of it. But then he's calm they're knocking on the door to like something happened, Honey. So then she goes over there's police everywhere. And the two guys know what happened because they were in the apartment, but it takes them until about two thirty in the morning for police to confirm the story. So they interviewed the two guys. And it's not until middle of the night that they tell the mother that Honey is died. Oh, no. And it's still not really known what happened. So this is in Georgia. This is in Stone Mountain is the name of the town. So something draws Honey over to she walks over. I guess this is not a car around picked her up from work brings her back. She gets texture phone call. She has over like marks on the street has department in that's where shoot her destination was she was like going out. No one really knows. But that's where she's found so her exit she's headed to ex-boyfriends house. His roommate friend is home. Those two story that they tell is that the house the apartment gets broken into. And there are adding three to six masked people in just ninja. Sure. Yeah. Break in and that they're being so that they're tied up being held at gunpoint tied up and that they're like in a bathroom. I think is the story and they hear a scream and gunshots in the other room, they free themselves from their ties, and they go out and they find Honey shot her body like she's dead in a closet. That's the story. Sure. They so the story is that these mass people were robbing them and had tied them up and set them in the bathroom, and that they're being robbed the store the police say they say two flora to her mom is that this was a that. Honey, had come upon a robbery in progress. And that whatever transpired that they killed her. And then they took off. But the only thing stolen is Honey cellphone nothing else in this whole apartment. No money. Not nothing. Yeah. And there's kind of two ways I think to look at that is what people are saying is either. Destroys kind of hogwash. Yeah. Or it. Also sounds like drugs are involved. Yeah. And then if you're robbing someone they're not going to say they stole all my drugs. Yeah. So they didn't take TV take everything else. But you got robbed of any cash that was lying around that you don't wanna talk about any drugs. And so both of those seem plausible to take her phone exactly unless they texted her to. And why was she so? Yeah. Like, so the police kind of consider it open, but clo- like they're kinda like not really looking it. So the family is still like I found articles that were like, hey, five years later still talking about this six years later, we're still talking about this the families really pushing and they're hoping that because some evidence some DNA evidence was found either. Like what I don't like blood droplets, or sweat droplets, or whatever it is. But they're hoping that DNA testing will catch up and be able to pheno. Type is what I was reading about that you can get certain characteristics. Like, according to this DNA that person's probably tall. They're probably brunette. They're probably all these other things the genetic testing. Yeah. Because what they're thinking is that based off of all of this. It was probably someone she knew whether it was someone. She knew if they're robbing her ex boyfriend that she still kind of in that circle or it's that if they like, okay that sounds like the export friend that sounds like they're hoping to get some information from all of that. Because otherwise, it's just this kind of far fetched story that has some credence in things that happen regularly. Yeah. Dan itself. And so having Honey Honey Malone. Well, and there's no so they're just waiting for technology to waiting to catch up there waiting for I witnesses. So if you Google if you live in Stone Mountain, Georgia, and, you know, something like, there's definitely still open pull lines to be like, hey, I heard this. I saw this. Or maybe you work with somebody now on they're saying something like things bubble up years and years later down the line. Do they not think axes a main suspect the friend had no one's been charted? No one's been charged. Didn't have any priors with drug dealing or anything like that. Nothing. I can find. Wow, I feel like I think you're right. I think it's a combination of I think it's like the drug dealing. I think they like say they were to get rob. Yeah. And then they did text Honey to come over or maybe the bad blood in there. Yeah. Wow. And then they have any guns associated with the bullets that were now like. Who are the mass like are the most people in cahoots with the expert from the roommate is everything they're saying true to their knowledge who knows well, that's crazy. In the where can people go they need? Anyone with information regarding honeys cases, urged to contact crime stoppers Atlanta at four oh, four five seven seven eight five seven seven unsolved mystery. That's thank you. Jackie. All right. We haven't really been taking breaks. I think I'm good break on through the other side. Oh, thank you. I'm here. Again, we definitely highly recommend making this cocktail tasted enjoying them with us. All right, murder time Mirjam learn a time data time sorry. So I'm going to tell you about IRAs Samuel Einhorn aka the unicorn killer Finkel finklestein horn. Okay. What's up from Ventura coup? The dolphin wondering coup. So I'm gonna tell you about ira- ira- is born on may fifteenth nineteen forty is IRA manner woman IRAs AMAN K IRAs normally a man name. Right. Cool. Yeah. I I think I got confused by Iranian. Yeah. This is different IRA. I'm gonna cut that out. I know you will not if I have to misprint pronounce things you. I'm miss gender names. Yes. Okay. So he is born into a middle class Jewish family while you're nineteen forty. But by the time he is in his twenties. He becomes a left wing radical. He becomes a symbol. It's about the time for him to becoming less. The New York he becomes a symbol. And prominent figure head of the youth driven movement in the sixties that is opposed to America's involvement in the Vietnam war is also known as KoKo Philadelphia's head hippie since he is a large burly man with electric blue eyes and has an unkept beard and rarely take showers. Yeah. However, he is a master of persuasion in he's able to network and win over many important and famous people to rally behind his cause of freedom peace. He kind of self proclaimed himself as the prince of flower power and the group guru of peace and love some of his supporters. Call him the unicorn which I kn- horn in German is the word for unicorn. Okay. Yeah. So leading in the lectures of Philadelphia in America and Meyer, respect IRAs opinion, and 'cause IRA does very well at the university of Pennsylvania, and he also becomes friends with authors. Allen Ginsberg and Jack key wreck Iraq Iraq. And he also hangs out with celebrities, including Isaac as move. Peter Gabriel in Yeary Geller. As of is a philosopher writer. Peter Peter Gabriel is a musical artists. And what was the last one year Geller Dono all right in? He also hangs out with the crowd. Call A K, the youth international party in. He also hangs out with their founders a hobnob yet hobnobbing, Tom Nevin. So he's hanging out with the founder, ABBIE. Hoffman, Jerry Rubin. He's also partaking in smoking marijuana making Semillas de it's the time and just living that free Levin lifestyle. He also loves the corporate side of things though, and they love him too. Because he has a knack for predicting future market trends and things like computer science to quantum physics to new age management, which is kinda come lip side IRAs. Consumes like a real, boomer. He's considered very intelligent. He's an avid reader. And he has this unique way of influenced influencing people he sells blueprints of the future to fortune five hundred company CEO's convincing them that their money could save the world through ecological awareness. Yeah. He is a speaker at the very first Earth Day rally air, we go in night your ties are always so scare. Oh god. It's really like, I'm amazing or something. I will give you weep battled about this many episodes ago, I will wholeheartedly concede. They your ties are far more impressive than mine. Done. Ah? Honey was good though. Mina flora to mine are mine are obvious, and yours are these hurt the obvious. No. But they're buried in the line of your store. Do you get the different? She do it. I don't know why it doesn't. Had certain going to set your head. God. How did I get into the door? Do. Here's the thing about him, a braggart, and I'm this big ridiculous personality. But if feel like the the the opposite to the the what allows for that is that I do feel like I only give genuine compliments, and I'm just also going to include myself in the compliments. Yes. Definitely. I think we've run a leave myself out, but recognize good things we both have a very healthy sense of healthy debatable. But the same time. It's like, I don't know. It's there slip sides people. Everyone should be themselves. Then we're all in Saint plane. We're all amazing. Yes. If you're listening to this. You're amazing art is kind. He was small. All right. So he's speaking at the first day in nineteen seventy in Philadelphia in he claims to everyone that will listen that he created her day. So okay. You're gonna get a picture braggadocios. But you know, other people are speeding this. Well, here's here's all say. Based off just this part of the story. He's a speaker at Earth Day. Yeah. Someone invited him to speak and speaker. Yeah. Someone invited the him to speak at this event that they preplanned you didn't invent this event. Invent this event. The Dennis Hays who still the chairman of Earth Day network with the one who created this. We've got a who lives in the class. All right. So during this time IRA is dating a woman named Holly Maddux. And they have been together for five years Ali is a short beautiful blue eyed, former cheerleader, she's a brilliant student at Brian Mauer college, and she's also very passionate about the women's liberation movement. Can so the kind in the same circles burn bras talking about trees, saving the earth. Yeah. So Holly is drawn to IRA because they're in the same circles. Yeah. For the peace of mind, charm. Yeah. His Whiteley beard. Got gotta love your stench. However, although an advocate of peace and nonviolence IRA is physically abusive towards Holly. Yeah, I'm understanding who this picture that you're painting IRA actually has a history of violence with previous women he has dated as well. He wants matched a soda can on one girlfriends head like a fool one just one he even tat like trick them into trying to crush on their own head. We've all seen those videos. Yeah, he even attempted to strangle another girlfriend, so Holly, eventually gets the courage, silly Vira, and she moved to New York, and she begins this relationship with this other man and IRA finds out and he called Holly in he demands Holly return to Philadelphia to come get all over things. Otherwise, he's going to throw it out into the street. I watch enough court shows to know that we go. Yes. You just can't go do him out. Yes. But you know, it's the seventies. So who knows so Holly leaves for Philadelphia on September ninth of nineteen seventy seven to meet with IRA. And that's the last time. I was gonna say. Enersen? Yeah. We haven't seen Holly since then. So Holly goes missing in. No one really thinks anything of it at first because IRA has many women come go out of his life constantly, even when he was with Holly for those five years. However, hollies family starts to get worried when Holly doesn't call to wish her mother. Happy birthday. Okay. So they called the police and they talk with IRA in IRAs. Like Ma I don't know. I haven't seen Holly. We wrote up we broke up in. So the case just goes cold. And after a couple of months hollies family like is like, this is an acceptable. We need answers. Yeah. They hire some private detectives. In the meantime, eighteen more months goes by Kay in ira- continues with his life. He's going on speaking tours, and you taking a semester long fellowship at Harvard's Kennedy School of government, he just out their best life. If you will however by nineteen seventy nine the private investigators get enough circumstantial evidence to give the police enough probable cause. To obtain a search warrant Irish apartment on March twenty ninth of nineteen seventy eight how many years have elapsed. It's about twenty months of. Okay. So this gets a baby. It's almost two years. A twenty month old tell me do math. This evidence includes IRA asking friends to help dispose of trunk containing said were secret documents. Iras unwillingness to cooperate with the police investigators. And would you? Eruption of Opio Scher k you've done so well, I'm trying so. It's different because we're ladies people aren't going to ask us for brute strength, very often. But let's pretend do you have a truck. Yeah. Like, let's say someone asks you to help them move something heavy, and it's super heavy and they're not moving from their apartment. It's just one piece of furniture. Yeah. Are you not questioning at all like I would make the Joe like again, we have a murder podcast who were different people got ten dead bodies. I would be making the joke, and I've kinda like in a joking fashion. You gotta open that trunk for me. I don't know. I'm joking about it. But you got to I got a new one I move to make sure I'm not a conspiracy or. Yeah. And I'd I'd make light of it. It would be all in levity. But like you're gonna open it damn or I'm not helping. All right. Well, if I ever have something to move, and that movie a body all don't. Don't crimes I'll ret you out. What if I you know, I got conned into a pyramid scheme of dildos? Is ridiculous. And I had a box of these toys the had a push on to other people like if somebody third. Dan, hold the CR Tiffany stories. But you know, what? I mean like what if I'd want to Jack white? Oh, you don't. I feel. Could if I'm helping you move you would laughingly visit a deal to ask me. I'd open that shit. I know ready for you dildos out. Yes. Okay. Any who besides box? Yes. I just that's that's my whole thing. Because that seems to come up in these stories all the time. So this evidence includes IRA asking some friends to help dispose of trunk containing what he said were secret document ridiculous IRAs unwillingness to cooperate with police investigators, you know, seems like a standard sign, and then we have a downstairs neighbor of IRAs saying that there's a dark liquid with the noble smell leaking leaking through from IRA's apartment into their kitchen. And that they had heard a blood curdling scream and several sharp the around the time of Holly. So these are three of three why were investigating IRA. So we're not knowing these. But it's twenty months later. What's the deal? What kind of shitty has landlord isn't dealing with this dork. Seeping? Yeah. I don't know. Or maybe it took twenty months for the seep to happen. Yeah. I'll allow for that and kind so detective Mike Chitwood take the lead searching Eire's apartment, and they find Holly suitcase in a wardrobe with in Baghdad driver's license and social security card in the same wardrobe. He also finds a trunk with Holly's body inside. Pause. They weren't helping him move this truck out of his apartment. No, no. I think he called them to try to. Hey, you should help me with the trunk in. Fred like nam, and I got a baseball game to go to Bob LA. I don't know. No one ever helped whenever helped him through just has his trunk in his house. Oh, oh. Uh-huh. Oh, yes. Yes. So now, I know where this drip is coming from. Yes. How in the world? Go ahead with your story question. How in the world? Do you kill someone put them in a trunk? Push it into a closet, and then continue to end, the just live your life. And he's doing he's doing tours doing speaking tours. He's doing the Harvard further alert looks just think of the standard, logistics. Yeah. It smells horrible. You have the fear of being caught. And you have the most evidence of evidence. Yes. These seem like two very strong factors to do something different than what he did. Yeah. There's a screw loose not the normal murdered someone screw loose. But like an extra screw another screw. Yeah. So let me tell you about what he did with her body. He wrapped or we don't know we don't know someone wrapped her in styrofoam newspapers and airfresheners her decomposing body is partially mummified and the remains way only thirty seven pounds, raptor styrofoam like pecking material. Yeah. And then like packed in newspaper impact in a budget bunch of airfresheners as they were going Cologne on his stinky, dude. Yes. Acts just. So a post mortem reveals that Holly had suffered trauma to the head and her school would smash in several places as result. However, the position of the body and the size of the trunk meant that she had actually been alive in my own new win placed in the trunk and had died. Trying to claw her way out. This is a twisted story. Yeah. Upon his arrest. Ira with portly shrugged indifferently and said you found what you found. Oh, he's. Allegedly. He's guilty. He was charged with murder as Pennsylvania has no degrees of murder. So they're just like we're gonna you the water state to state is interesting. Yeah. Sometimes you like good on you stayed. And another times you like what how is that? How you doing? Yeah. And this is like, I don't know it could have changed by now. But like back in the back then. Yeah. No degrees. So irate is represented by the notorious defense attorney Arlen Specter, which to me he was at notorious but back, then I guess he was he he later Arlen Specter later became a Senator any served on the infamous Warren commission in that's why he's infamous and was the author of the single assassins, lash crazy bullet theory user, explained the assassination of JFK. Spector successfully argues for bail, which is set at forty thousand dollars, which is crazy because it is unheard of for bail to be granted in a murder case. Is that true back then? Yeah. In Pennsylvania, how much is forty grand back then still good amount of fucking much. So because oppose bail, you only have to post ten percent of it in like, oh, I don't have the money. But my good friend, Barbara bro fan does who's Barbara US on tell you. She is a Montreal socialite who's married into the wealthy. Seagram's distillery family. Oh, she pays IRAs bail so Irish released on bail. And he's telling everyone that he's innocent. He starts claiming that the murder is a conspiracy by the CIA or the FBI who wanted discredit him and halt, his political activities, then on January twenty first of nineteen Eighty-one iris skips bail and on the eve of the pretrial who. Surprise disappears. Yeah. No. Oh, he's gone. Yeah. He goes daisy in the wind. I'm going to tell you thus begins this, huge international pursuit. So this isn't district attorney, Richard Benedetto. It's put onto the case and lucky for him. I release behind sixty handwritten journals about his life and the district. Attorney is just like boom. I got you IRA, and yes, I know you detailed profile in nineteen eighty-five irises guys obsessed with himself. Yes. Yes. That will be your that will be your undoing IRA is traced to Dublin Ireland where his living under the name of Ben more. However, there were no extradition papers and effects in IRA fleas Dublin once he realizes they are onto him from there IRA travels throughout the UK crossing the English channel and at some point he enters the continental Europe. So in nineteen Ninety-three, they still haven't caught IRA. So the Philadelphia coach. Sides to try IRA in apps and Tia so in the sunshine of there. So the trying him without him being there centrally which is kind of on this gray line because you wanna give people the right to defend them. Correct. But he was also he's fleeing. So because and color both sides, you could flee because you don't feel like you're gonna get a fair trial. Like, you could be innocent flea less likely, but you could be instantly. Yeah. Will you be guilty and fleet which is how everyone views it. Yeah. And so the the main push for getting through is a lot of the witnesses and evidence is about to expire climbing out people. People are starting to die like. Yeah. People and hollies family are turned it. I so IRA is convicted of murder and sense to life imprisonment while he's gone. So then in nineteen ninety the defence attorney learns that IRAs benefactor Barbara who set bail for him. Hello. Yeah. Has been financing his escape. However, Barbara gonna get in trouble for that. Yes. Yeah. She's canadian. So Mira's mad at a Canadian snow. You got this international stuff at be involved. Yeah. However, Barbara how the change of heart as she tells police IRAs doc home address, so the addresses under the name Annika folding whose iris wife, so he gets married while he's in the win on June third said press, but any of this on June thirteenth nineteen ninety seven. I r- is arrested in a mill house outside of champagne, Milton, France. Yes, a whole we. But the French courts refused to extradite him citing an extradition treaty between France and the United States says that either country may refuse extradition. If it finds that the defendant may not get a fair trial. Isn't that what's holding up? What's his face? I told you about the Sharon Tate murders, and and I can leave his damn name. He's director Roman Polanski implants ran away to France because he was facing a raping thirteen year old charges here in the US. Yes, he's famed famed director everybody thinks amazing. You have all these actors like Lee Malone. He should come back to America. But he can't come back to America and France won't extradite him. 'cause he faces very serious charges when it gets back. Yeah. I think I feel like Francis. Sometimes they are like, no. I mean, I think they're just trying to cause like they don't have the death penalty. And we do I know it's it's a it's two countries with very different different philosophies, and I understand them being like, I'm not going to send them back. If you're gonna do it in a way that we don't agree with. Yeah. Yeah. This dick to their guns about it. I give sides. So again Francis. Like, I don't think he's gonna get a for a trial. So we're not gonna send it back to you, which I think he would get a fair trial. No because he was found guilty without him being there without that. It's going to stand. Yes. So that's gonna found he is found guilty without a chance of a new trial. Do you agree with Francis? Dan, pice little bit kinda get where they're coming from. I totally get that send them back. If I'm like if he gets a trial off on them back. So. So francis. Like, we're not going to send it back because we don't agree with you. So France releases IRA back to his wife, so just six days later, and she's cool. You murdered someone you got all these ladies like, no, everything we normally. I don't care it come back with me. So just six days later, a new law passes in Pennsylvania under the law in the American fugitive caught in a country where extradition is denied on account of previous. How do you say it in essential? There you go conviction may when return to United States v granted a new trial in this law was going to be retroactively applied to Irish case. They want him. They want him back trying. They're like, okay, France. We see where you're saying. We'll do this so IRAs rearrested in France in September of nineteen ninety eight. The Bill was however criticize as being unconstitutional is it the allegation being that the legislature cannot overrule final judgment handed by a court. I don't know that that's true. I think we'll just we have different. Branches of government for a reason so attorneys tried to use this fact to get French courts to deny the extradition again on grounds that the law would be inapplicable, however on February eighteenth of nineteen ninety nine a French court agreed to extradite IRA to the US in a desperate attempt to delay his extradition on July twelfth of two thousand one IRA publicly attempts this let his throat in front of television cameras. Although he suffers little damage. Yeah. I'm not surprised by that. He used a butter knife. Yeah. I'm not surprised. Amir -tated by IRA. All right. So the trial itself is relatively straightforward. The prosecution amass a body of circumstantial evidence against ARA, including the courts found in his apartment. They also led him in cross examination to reload. Portions of his diaries which gave insight to his violent in womanizing character, the price they allowed that. But biggest because they've found it at the scene of the crime. Yeah. The defense tried to of having the trial dismissed as the I kn- horn law was unconstitutional arguing that the law violated the protection against cocoa double jeopardy. The judge refused to hear devils. Devils giving you a fair shake their arguing that he's being tried again. But what they're doing is offering a real trial for Hainan saying do overs, you get a mulligan. Yeah. Yeah. 'cause you get to be there in defend yourself. Yeah. So the judge is like I don't wanna hear that shit. We're going to it's you know. Yeah. We're just in the list. Let's play out the defense. Also, tried to introduce reasonable doubt that IRA had committed the murder claiming that he had sent out. Oh, sorry, claiming that he had been out of the apartment for several months in nineteen seventy eight and that it was possible for the body to have been sneaked in to frame their client, definitely possible. Ira happens all the time IRA when asked to enter his defense claim that he had been framed by the CIA or KGB. Oh, yeah. Because they don't like his political. Yeah. Sometimes I've ever Grazer. Air more on the side of common sense than. Yeah. Theory on this one after only four weeks on October seventeenth to to a jury found IRA guilty of the murder of Holly. He was sent to life in prison without parole. He's currently incarcerated at Holt state prison in Pennsylvania, that's murder case. You are curious Steven Levy did a study in nineteen eighty eight called the unicorn secret murder in the age of Aquarius in the Hinton's just him going through all his diaries like just going setting dove. Yes. Yes. So if you want to know about more about that, that's that. Otherwise that was Iraq. For ya. How? Yeah. Let's Suri in crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Like he flipped. He was gone for like sixteen seventeen years. Yeah. He was on the row. I mean in true fashion. He gave me many times. You guys that's been another week of killer cocktails, but before we wrap up trying to get more of a spine to this podcast. Yeah. An outline if you will we're going to talk about what we've been watching listening or reading too. So what what what's up Jackie I have? I'm very early into the one that you're gonna recommend. So let us speak to it. Okay. Because you've listened to more of it than I have. But I've enjoyed what I've heard so far. And I started watching new girl to have you never seen it. I feel I watched it a long time ago, but not a ton of it. So I'm just enjoying this little net. Flicks binge of silly show. Dude, new girl is like I love it. Nate loves it from work like he'll he can Joan like he knows all the quotes Kyle super do it like Phil super into it hits. Everybody everybody is it still. It's silly. It's very silly. The writing is amazing. They're all just really happy. Yeah. Happy show new girl Millie, and what's the podcast? You're listening to. It's the one that you're listening to go root of evil. I finished it Kim recommended this came we recommended this each insane. If you ever wanted closure on the black Dahlia case, I feel like I have closure. I think I know who did it. Now, it can be very triggering there. It's talk of incest and most Asian and rape. So definitely knew that going into it. But man, if you work at the gap don't throw it on the loudspeaker on the loudspeaker, it just get insight into various different cases all coming together. And you're like, oh my God. This is who killed the black. Dahlia you feel like they've presented enough evidence that if you were a jury that's where all do feel like I'll watch making all like watcher. Listen to podcasts or documentaries where I'm like the narrative frame didn't away. We're like this is how I feel. Yeah. But then when you talk to people, I'm always hesitant to say. Our Phil one hundred percent one way because it's different than if you were adjourned, you're presented all this information. But do you feel like they've presented in a way? What's kinda like pretty cut and dry? One hundred got a bunch of different stuff. We feel pretty confident definitely. And then just so everyone knows the black. Dahlia is the name of given to this case victim was Elizabeth short anything that should be known remembered. Definitely. Yeah. But yeah, go check out root of evil. It is binge worthy. But very intense. So kinda balance that out with new girl. Maybe sounds like a good balance. Jackie I've been watching the act and mommy, dead and dearest on HBO. I've had both those things recommended to me. I have not been in yet. So this is the case about gypsy rose and the act is kind of like a made for TV like episodic show, and it's like slowly coming out on Hulu, and that's amazing. And then I started watching the documentary on HBO the, mommy dearest in just the way the actress in the act is playing the like, she's has the choices. She's making. Yeah. Yeah. In like, even those this is based on events a lot of them coincide with each other. They're pretty through this job. And it's just like this mother who got Munchausen or Mathausen by proxy. And it's just it's intense. Like the the way like you see the love for her daughter. But the way that she's imbues abusing her daughter in that that she's like taking her to get excessive surgeries and just pretending that she has these m I. In my on base by saying much. So there's a his abuse involved every time, but it's also there's an attention seeking to it. Yes. That you're getting attention for. Yeah. Oh, you're sick kid was you. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah. And then there's just like a twist at the end with gypsy and her mom, so definitely watch it either those or read more into the case, congress, it's crazy intense. And then we actually have a listener Arfan white underscore underscore rabbit. Not to be confused with white underscore rabbit on Instagram. I got permission. She has this funniest like show notes. They are hilarious. She's like we're kind of watching it together. I don't know how this happened. We started watching it together. I think she recommended it to me. And then she was like a little bit headed meets though. She would go through synopsis. He's I haven't seen any of it. And I I read it because it was sent to us. Oh, wow. Yeah. I'm trying to convince her to do a little blog or very fun. Very funny. Thank you for entertaining. Me of your notes are amazing. And yeah. So if you guys wanted more recommendations, they are check out the act. Mommy, didn't is the root of evil and new girl. Kind of balance all the devil. As always guys. Thank you for listening. And we totally appreciate you guys. We got some fun seven, and we'll check you out next week. Bye. Thanks for tuning into. This week's episode of killer cocktails as always on her talent was Jackie. Andrea be sure to check out her Instagram at cocktails podcast or stop by our website killer cocktails podcast dot com for up to date information, photos, contests and more are logos. Created by Michelle firm whose amazing art founded Michelle from designs com. Our music was created by Nikolai height loss, and we'll be back next week on hashtag burger Mondays. Hey, guys. Welcome back to another week of killer cocktails. I was breathing out. While you said that I made. I'm in a nose law. Okay. Good love. Until you got a good love. 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but we're trying to come up with a solution how to prevent them from digging deep trenches throughout the backyard so you have three dogs and they're like two D behavior interrupt approach based on the objects flying through the air no heavy objects no chairs or tables above Latvian line because sometimes he just gets a little bit to type a personality is he is he to joy find him track them down for your call they will send it and stay away from those areas that would I do remember people and my dear listener please and if I were on the stop them from digging in my absence I would put in those holes red pepper serving available radio is brought to you by the Grain Free Red Bar naturals kid and food for dogs and cats it's always made in the USA with natural functional ingredients to support your pets go ahead of me ahead of me I turn around and snap the leash I wanna make sure they worry about me I will make sure they know it's my backyard people and if they're gonNA do sit stay in 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They were sitting at a pool dino perched on her arm when he suddenly took off flying something you've never done before they made flyers and put an ad on Craig's past life I'm Brit savage for animal radio and be able to handle radi mode controllable devices on them electronic cholera get a push the button or citronella activate the color by name direct stopper parakeet named Pharaoh a cockatiel named willow and Akon your name spirit he explained some people are cat people some people are dog people maybe I was a bird that working number two would use throwing cans next to them next to them not at them but next to them with and if they do something wrong I gotta just push the button and they're gonNA be scuttled they will think well my gosh what happened here okay because they have no other Jap to do what the body would do well they would put leash and collar on each dog and I would mark my weekly fair tire duck duck outta that point after that things I am expecting them not to d.c however if they steal d.c that's m-a-l health you could learn more at Red Barn Dot Com and thank you red barn for underwriting animal radio dogs cats horses or EMU Korea actively sometimes they say some things next client Theo thank you does the found bird ad on craigslist when she saw the lost bird one she returned d-notice strong weary happily found the place on strong's wheelchair right next to it's coming from both you and your pets seventy nine percent give their pets holiday and birthday presents fifty percent of those actually throw a birthday celebration parties and seventeen sowed raising their hand just like a painting can like we're seeing Michigan a pup can in California they say so the can five six painters eight percent of US sometimes dress our pets you've probably heard about the Labra doodle that looks like a lion I listen to some of the nine one one calls just you know model chiefs landscaping stones people they've done everything to me those scream list about the missing parrot but we're expecting too much meanwhile an employee from Hyundai Motors found dino in a parking lot at work she was just going to ah seen them literally dive through the window to get into car thinking a lion as after them stuff spun we all love to humanize hire family can enjoy a road trip to find the best vacation spot four spot subscribe to Fido friendly the travel and lifestyle magazine for you and your dog where each issue includes the people okay and after that if that will not work I got to spend them KGB and that GonNa put Arne he tells me he's got dogs and he doesn't believe in ever putting him on a leash and he says you know why here's why would you wanna be on a leash I already know the answer but just for the heck of it I asked him about nita fix of a good stuff get more animal radio with the free animal radio APP for iphone and Android is hotel and destination reviews where both you and Fido are welcome go online to FIDO friendly dot com find out what all the barkings search go boy I said Dude come on you're going to get them all wound up and I've taught him he needs to become here's the irony he tells me he knows how calm and mellow and well behaved my dog is what you and your PA- can do so it's a lot of fun and you get to see I wanna dog personalities that's what I love about it you get to see the Little Chihuahua plane inject himself with testosterone apparently is that healthy yea I do not condone the use of that kind of steroid you never know it is animal radio famous Russian dog was just went to the bathroom dogs don't we give them human emotions I was at soccer on Saturday and this guy comes up and says pet your dog I said sure he commenced acting like a nut oh you're a good boy roles knowing the rules make some common happy he knows what I expect of him and he always gets to come along because of that anyway if you WanNa pet a strange dog ask permission and then be mellow her and I thought that another direction and I gotTa Keep Kim running back and forth people being so they could get their little bit tired more physically now they're mentally tired now why are you trying to do some up like that I said buddy you gotta be calm when you pet a dog just mellow you don't WanNa act like his head is the hope diamond course he doesn't get it or he doesn't WanNa get it and here's more certainly be very vigilant flea control so sometimes we do have to combine different methods so there are different topical that you can use there's even oral medications oh about it admit it you love your dog and he is part of the family so when choosing your next vacation don't forget Fido we just a little planning the do you bring your dogs out there's no of course not I can't bring him anywhere I can't control them they might knock down kit or an old woman of course he doesn't hear what he's saying I said look my dog is here with me says well to help kind of squash that flea life cycle so one bite of a flea will cause persistent itching for a long time so you WanNa make shared take them lots of places people don't even notice him they're happy to see him kids can come up and pat him and he's not locked up in the house all alone by himself and the reason for this is because he knows the route at that is being addressed completely secondary to that when we're talking about diet it there's more to hypoallergenic diets in dealing with the two items and they're gonNA toss one and Tech Garon and after maybe one of them grab and run around with each other and I I will show them in other on the have here testosterone or so I don't know how that works let's head to the phones we have Bryan on the phone for Debbie Dr Debbie I'm sorry Brian how're you doing great thank you unique new proteins at the pets immune system hasn't seen yet things like kangaroo things like rabbit base diets those are kind of some of the more new and upcoming address the root cause of the problem there bore they have no job to do the more you work proactively the less you will need to that is going to be the cure for pets with allergies well guess what dogs can be allergic to other proteins other than grains so we need to keep that in mind and pets have food allergy then just switching the Diet going to grain free grain free right now is kind of the big catch all that all the pet food manufacturers are trying to throw out there like maybe time to go through your veterinarian and see about using more of a hypoallergenic diet there are what we call novel protein diets that are capturing and in dealing with those pets that have food allergies so those two things would be if you haven't gone through the prescription level foods and you've just I will protein diets there's another school of thought which is called hydrolysed protein diets in these are a little bit more expensive but they sometimes have the best Opportunity Aquatic Ryan Abebe lion everything uses owner when people see Charlie the dog walk and they really freak out yeah the reason I'm calling is My Dog She Australian shepherd mix and she's had this scratching problem since her birth basically and aide buying different ones at the pet store that would be my recommendation is to get really serious about that dietary management and then really tackle that flea control L. Shampoo and I just don't know what to do anymore she constantly scratches an inches and biting her you know her legs and is there any kind of for dogs to have bacterial and yeast infections on top of a chronic skin problems so they can have allergies and they also have infections on the surface so when coat quality in the skin quality but also can help to kind of as a mild anti inflammatory for the skin so I would add that in as well ask about sprays and things like that yeah I might but it's really going to depend on what I see on your pet surface if I pick up a interesting odor because you know and then the final thing if you're not already doing it as I love using omega fatty acids it's a natural anti inflammatory that can help with not only the being we're all waiting here one eight six six four five eight four zero five good day animal lovers it is time for your resident party animal and that is Elian idea and she said yes she comes over once a week and we let the dogs play in the yard and then we get to catch up we also have a yappy hour she said and I said excuse me she goes be me Vinnie Penn just hung up the phone with my sister who lives out in Las Vegas she had to go because she was having what she called a play date name you come up with whatever guys this is an excuse for you to get drunk with your girlfriend under the ruse that you care about Iran people say less is more at Red Barn we think less is better it's what you won't find that sets are natural premium pet food apart no byproducts no corners shampoo or something I could get for yeah so now I gotta ask us having any actual source of hair loss the best find it in your local pet specialty store dryer chicken rolled food as a meal or shredded as a topper toy no fillers just the natural ingredients your pets need to live the healthy life they deserve look at the label we want you to read Bar naturals pet food simply dog steer the car yet V our Vinnie Penn party animal animal radio animal radio art talent cable thirty three percent of US pet owners talked about pets on the phone with the answering machine when we're away sixty two percent of a sign letters and cards so it looks like lab mix was disaster preparedness after all he lives with his owners just south east of San Francisco where you have to be aware earthquakes and other natural disasters Jasper in humans belong to troop one ninety eight in Santa Clara they've earned eighteen badges altogether each has made him a better dog they say if there's an emergency we know he's GonNa listen to me there are six hundred eighty two dogs scouts who belong to thirty eight troops across the country the organization has about eighty badges dogs aren't required sisters I don't know I never inquired about the sex of the animal when a dog is introduced into a family but she said yeah we're having a play date with the dogs and I said well this this is it's good that she doesn't have a lot of sewers and she doesn't have a lot of other secondary problems but for me I always like to do a little skin surface check because is very common you know we can hopefully get your baby a little bit more comfortable and I would say give her a scratching the ear but I don't want to get her scratching for you it's very heartbreaking for me to hear an anti greasing shampoo for those pat so a little bit of having that is in the news of the veterinarian kind of helping Guide through some of these choices might be really helpful there Ulsan thirteen years ago you'd like to belong membership twenty five bucks a year Ohio animal owners are roaring over a bill that would institute some strict regulations that could result in me we should help them enjoy their time with us as much as we can for dogs let us learn new things that we become more helpful both serve as an inspiration for the group's grossest edge you can imagine what that is clean up America it consists of picking up piles left behind by other dogs on trails parks and beaches the organization was founded by Lonnie sponsored by Zanesville Republican Senator Troy Alderson the bill would create a list of wild animals that would be deemed dangerous including big cats bear some primary any wild animals being taken away from their owners animal owners activism pet organizations packed a hearing room in Columbus to testify against Senate bill three ten the legislation resulted from the tragedy last October near Zanesville where Terry Thompson led his fifty six wild animals loose thompson sixty to release the it's certain types of snakes the bill would establish stringent permitting policies and eliminate the private purchase of dangerous wild animals in the state that would take effect January first originally bears lions and tigers from their cages and then he committed suicide a Seattle resident leaving little doubt that he's a huge golf fan rest Berkman told sports radio station Friday every every remedy you can imagine but I've changed her food now I've recently purchased the grain free will and I've given her baths old there's no hair loss she just constantly each's her back and her hind legs and her her legs rear legs but now where I live I live in radio dot com this has been an animal radio news update get more at animal radio dot com earn badges beyond the first one for basic obedience and appropriately called the dog scout badge the scouts have a couple of models for humans are dogs lives are much shorter than our own you're listening to animal radio you can learn more at animal radio DOT COM log on learn more aww he's talking to the truth or if you're just making crap yeah who knows yellen today I think that has something to do with the testosterone I think when he starts yelling he he thinks he needs to load up Ernie Rodeina and it's our Earth Day Special Ed Begley Junior just around the corner and this portion of animal radio is brought to you by thunder shirt if your dog or cat is afraid of noises or vet visit it's or just being left alone thunder shirt constant gentle pressures the simplest solution for calming them it's easy to use it's drug free and it only costs thirty nine ninety five live let's also go to line four where we have debbie on the phone for Vlada Hey Debbie what's going on I have a you've heard of the girl scouts and boy scouts have out the dog scouts of America they've got badges and camp outs cookie drives and troops in twenty two states the dog scouts she get any kind of infection going on about that I'm aware that I could see and I do checker thoroughly he's not missing any hair like like if you have managed or something KTAR that he made his dog throw up after he discovered the animal at Eton his tickets to this year's Masters Tournament Berkman returned home one day discovered that his dog snapped on he then contacted the masters provided photographic proof they didn't want him to send the tickets understand that why and he attempted to get some new W. loves to Pico odors and sometimes there can be very kind of greasy or oily odors that we can get with some dogs and we might use more of an anti Subarea type shampoo else and drive the little guy home drunk I've met her friend Marie before I could see her prop and her dog up in her lap and having that kits animal radio one eight six six zero five eight four zero five that is a good solution now you can buy yours at pet stores or thundershower dot com and in fact let's go ahead and give away one right now at one eight six six four zero five eight four zero five ashes well they obliged as a result he got to go to the masters and everybody lived happily ever after I'm Stacey Cohan get more animal breaking news at me Hi this is Jennifer Fisher on animal radio please May neuter your animals this is an animal radio news update I'm Stacey Cohan for Animal Radio Yuppie our you know we have drinks crack open a couple of bottles of wine and I thought to myself this is not a play for dogs or the matter what clever all four of his tickets won't rather than call off his trip he fed the dog hydrogen peroxide I guess it's safe for animals he dug out all the pieces of the tickets from the dogs vomit of America even has a motto or two as the Half Human Half Hound Organization goes about the business of doing good deeds one of the first badges for Jasper he's a three year old Cali with her dog she has a girlfriend who got the same dog same time is her they're technically the dogs are brothers and brother and sisters Oh you had an excuse me omega fatty acids the fish based oils which are the natural innate inflammatory so you got a lot you can try I think three to Dr Debbie Blondie of the world famous Russian Dog Wizard Joey Villani Dogfather Joey Baloney you always got to put the dogfather before that animal communicator joy Turner or South Texas and there are a lot of plea at ticks down there so I do give Whiteman every month I was giving her a veteran three but I can't find that anymore but now I changed her ointment but I don't know if he has something to do with it or I don't know what's causing if it'd be honest it's like that all her life she's like eight years old though well two things would really work on one putting a place in the studio what in the world famous Russian dog wizard who with some kind of injection with him today I don't know what that's about Joy Villani the traffic that and I I feel like she did misery to be honest but I'll certainly try those things you recommend that I really really appreciate that thank you for the call this is Dr about seven years old she's part Cat Hula and part Chinese Shar Pei and my God Oh yeah Oh yeah she's she's she's she's confused at times because she it was whatever the Blue Tongue yeah yeah yeah oh yeah she's got a blue tongue and she's got it has just google the product by name Beth convinced Sir you cannot be wrong with that you push the button air like a trigger aim no marvel chips no beans no landscaping stones because people did everything to me so put it inside close that whole with masking tape and suddenly without raising your hand grab something scream you one question would be how can I stop my dog Fraum picking up things in her mouth that she's not supposed to have oh yes oh yes oh that's impo simple just car wreck just remember just repeat after me I we have to learn it to do so how we can correct the dog frog grabbing the wrong things you can use one of two approaches you can toss under-floor like shaking Ken the females dog better than meals but let's stick to the point well if it's happening my last question please yes no is it happening in your presence I guess so air just and start 'til your dog I guarantee you that will work if I were in your living living room right now from the floor or picks them up off the table she picks them up off the floor her favorite thing dirty socks because she thinks she's going to get a treat correct redirect brace tell me debuted correct range erect pray correct from which you don't want the dogs somebody was something in her mouth and at first it started out she would pick up something and my mom would give her a treat for that cute well now it's caused to where that's stupid can everybody drug trainer were telling you about which never works and how it works you have to put inside five six panes no dimes I think sideways next to the dock if a touch your shoulders that's not a bad thing to okay because eight that personal space lean toward as you say freeze after the cameras on the floor freezing means if you don't stop it's not just about pausing you have to act you have to act like a dog Ima actress scream move forward in the she knows what she can have and what she can't have she knows that if she gets something she's not supposed to have that she gets a treat for it which has been something my mom has been doing and I mean okay don't say about race don't say about politics black lab is our best and maybe who you know chocolate lop is dumb and we thought could sense of taste we humans the difference luckily different sometimes the dogs do it to get human attention but let's withstand the subject very cheap push the button air comes under on that startled the dog in from that time redirected which you want you to do what you need Um psychic hotline sometimes people just keep complaining and if you really wanted to resolve this issue number one sit down your mom and if you don't drop it I will bite you doc language dog leash but of course if it's still difficult just you know what grab that pet convince her get convinced sir not work and it doesn't work because you didn't do it properly I will not argue with your let me tell you what will work for you just the world famous trainer and he told me you're wrong okay and you can give you my phone number I can talk to her to thank you for calling us I'll try to see let's take one for doctor gave me we have to live a healthy life they deserve look at the label we want you to read bar naturals pet food simply the best find in your local pet specialty store Chizik difficult because a lot is personality is a larger than this world in their bring a knowledge from different perspectives and I'll show whenever aw find us at animal radio DOT COM log on learn more people say lasts is more at Red Barn we think less the giant grain free Rhode food it's protein packed with less risk of food sensitivity radio baby letter it's what you won't find that's our natural premium pet food apart no byproducts no corn or soy fillers just the natural ingredients your pets need because you're giving a two dollars ticket for speech violation that's what that's okay thank you can't you're listening to animal radio I'm concerned you at this time you know the next day he actually walked out of the vet underneath his own power and doing great the hardest and I was wondering how soon is too soon to let him go to the groomer and get himself cleaned up these kind of getting the to do you wanna you just grab some toy we always talk on this station about zere endless chew that's amazing thing too you just trouble so yeah are you having difficulty keeping him from doing things at this point now yeah we yeah well he did rip out all stitches after seven days but people say I'm not surprised when we'd says he he may have about my mom's about five and a half year old golden doodle all righty well he had surgery about six weeks ago walking him up the stairs on the lead we've never had to harnesses back but we are having a hard time keeping them down like when he sees other dogs out the window he wants to run around the living room four okay Axa dory socks or dead fish it has different issues that don't have very specific sense like our the debut you know she keeps her nose and the kind of bets but using those for the detection of the disease the dogs have completely different looking here is and say mom I love you dearly but here's what it is I mean this is the behavior is bothering me okay I love you but I don't want you to do that I spoke with what we term a Goofy retriever syndrome I'm sorry I've coin because I have one myself goofy retriever yeah prone except the slow leg out from underneath him and then he can really move yeah well with the dog recovers from cheap yellow surgery normally the healing time we're looking at about two to three months out and about eight weeks after the surgery is when ideally we ought to get an x ray to see no no that's interesting for me my friends without even personal when sometimes people culture me and I'm hearing pillows surgery is done for that have a ruptured cruciate ligament which is one of the major ligaments in the knee so just like a football player that blows out there back as far as we can for your typical standard type grooming that being said there are some dogs that I have to get some kind of grooming done whether they're just stinky match in the bathing Tub because that's very important we don't want slipping losing his footing in any way in jumping in and out of a tub is horrible friends in whether or not we want to give you kind of free rein to get into some of the grooming activities I'd have to say because he has goofy retriever syndrome and then we might push that Matt at one eight six six four five eight four zero five welcome to the show Matt thanks how are you all today good doctor Debbie I've got a question right kill even take something off the table that you know she knows she's not supposed to have lived they do in one sentence if you could matt turn and making that catch jogs jumping off a couch you're catching a Frisbee blow out the same way so so you're Dougie rupture that now how's he getting along what happens I'll nothing to try to do it yeah I I know well I when I'm around I can do and when I'm around I can like be forceful enough and make her drop whatever she has and she thing is keeping him calm wants to jump on everything and I gotTa Yeah it's that's the hardest part of it he amazingly quite the mission picks up a picture she makes everything doesn't your methods do not work obviously they don't you know and consequently Duck Debbie this is the one I called you on about two and a half months ago that I wanted to get a second opinion on him I thought it was a bad diagnosis and because the play was that too long lasting thor instead of driving your nuts by grabbing some dirty socks so correct the how the bone is healing because there is a belief involved with that and we WANNA make sure that there's good healing callous of that bone there that might make some if if it seems like it's a something they can pull off without risk of injury then it may be okay but for these really Sylvia if you want I mean normally is to be done but my mom I need to correct the dog too me we are we do get taken our our half of our bed and put it downstairs as to keep them off the stairs you know now I think you will feel so I'm GonNa have to explain for House Surgery Unit question was coming kind of hard to slow down when he wants to go real fast he just lift the leg up and then hopped around on three it's kind of a sterile you know he get your fix of animal radio anytime you want with the animal radio APP for iphone and android download it now it's made possible by fear free pets taking the pet petrified visit them at fear free happy homes DOT com? Judy is just running in the studio with another question this is from Sammy this is also for Vlada wow what is getting all the questions I have a seven year old men pin with men pin six year old Dobie Dobie what is that rag on their face and I call it the Doggie spa so they come in and get warm towels and I put on their face and they push shove and push their way up they get their ears dirty from you know being post-surgery or what have you if we do have to get him to a groomer or do a home bathing there are some precautions that I would do and when is to use a non stick Doberman Okay six-year-old Doberman a month away from having my first baby and I was wondering what is the best way to introduce my new baby to the family well because introduced the baby to the new family needs to before you bring the baby you need to bring babies diapers and let the dog sniffer and Yeah and cute it turns out that it was you did I did go get that second opinion years the best doctor around that's why we we don't have to worry about the up and down and that helps to kind of make us feel better about that whole experience and then you know your dog and New Your groomer paying for a dog after this type of surgery so if possible we'd try to either do this I even based some dogs in dog runs at the office is cleaning at the Doggie spa so even something as simple as that may make make him feel good and you know just like us you gotta look good to feel good so Sir Michelin pilot challenge beginning with a four hour endurance challenge powered by a four cylinder engine producing three hundred and fifty horseback and we'll use would be to record the baby's cry you know in the hospital and bring it in and play them play and let them sniff ball and the next best way would be of them jumping coworker of you in the number two to create positive perception was this new baby rival Of course Louis addition to its motorsports program by unveiling all you must have three race car Mazda three TCI will hit the racetrack as pot of the twenty twenty famous Russian dog wizard fixing those most vaccine dog issues and Dr Debbie helping you with your veterinary medical questions thank you a lot of people ask you about their human questions too. I noticed you were in the hallway with our sales manager answering questions about a goiter or something you know you're only license every day celebrating the connection with our pets this is animal radio featuring veterinarian Dr Debbie White groomer joy guaranteed everyday low prices an excellent customer service for professional parts people you can trust stop by your local o'reilly auto parts today a rally auto parts better parts better prices best advice would be train the puppy and older dog prior to bring the baby because that's what we're really sharp increase decrease any blooms in this connotation here's the top news story I'm Nick Miles Mazda Motor sports announced the nobody more appropriate than Ed Begley Junior he's such a big conservative guy he saves all kinds of electricity and everything he's very carbon when you come home was the new baby simultaneously giving you puppies and you know both Dokan poppy and new set of choice number one you will distract them with that to buy those cookies what about dogs Scouts Dog Scouts of America is your dog the dog scout of America well they have troops all over this country any news director Lorie Brooks and now from the Red Barn Studios here are your hosts Halley rooms and Judy Francis Dream Team Britt retrievers I I would push off the true grooming until we're cleared by the doctor that everything's healed that sounds good you know I can deal with most of it is just as in La and everything he tells us he spends three hundred dollars a year on utilities wow we do that at a day here paddle shift a six speed transmission vinyl new Mazda three CR reviews our autumn expert dot com fecal reilly auto parts for all of your car care needs we're close convenient and known for unfriendly he is a bus pass believe in an La bus pass actually uses it can you imagine being an actor and using a bus pass traveling around the he's got his lawn for animals right no I get that all the time where people are you know what I kinda liked better than my human doctor can you give you get a look at this Molin right there and you know I think the important thing is when we use pain relievers that are in that class such as remodel the non-steroid based pain relievers we really just have to make can you can download the APP for your smartphone it's android friendly and iphone friendly so check that out what's going on Anthony Ernie Rodeina answering your questions animal communicator joy Turner Bridge that gap Dogfather Joey Villani Tony How to groom your animal's blood Oh kill one eight six six four oh five eight four zero five oh I wanted to mention this before we got into the show heads deep here brand new animal radio APP if you miss any part of the show today so you haven't already had some basic lab work done that might be something just to check 'cause sometimes will adjust the dosage or the dose frequency if a pet does in our stacey cohan working hard in the newsroom what's going on you know it was just a girl scout cookie season and it's tough to deny those girl scouts eight pounds that's while eight pounds in a week you've lost their it seems yeah you know what I was at a plateaued and dying WanNa know what you have in your water because you have a nineteen year old dog that's amazing that is phenomenal so Kudos to you you're doing right back I'm like Oh my God goes on animal radios are carbon paw prints special today I guess who's going to be on the season stars unshared for name grade is a little baby and I have grown remedy every day she's got arthritis you know she in these to jog scouts south inmates documents no men's for you joey you're on a diet now okay the APP forty have some of those kind of other issues but we'd come down to quality of life when you're nineteen year old dog so I'm all a fan of using everything at our in our arsenal so that might be oh came off but I'm on my third set of Pant size that's still nothing I don't make me too I've lost twenty three pounds for me and you look in good activities so if she still can make it around the backyard or make it around the block we want to keep doing that keep that muscle tone up that's really doing today doing good great got a question got a question how you doing today Hey I'm pretty good what can I help you I've got a nineteen year old often we're doing a couple things one is make sure we're not causing any harm so there yes there is potential for causing problems but I wanna make sure and a nineteen year old dog we don't already have some problems conjunction with remedy Elena she's tolerating that in her lab work looks great hey I'm all for it I keep up with it there's there's even other things you can do beyond that important okay well she gets acupuncture once a month and she I mean it really seems to happen quite a bit you know as far as its movement so he could acupuncture and Lewd Glucose means there don't abandon that that can help but it's not gonna be in replacement of something like remedy so you you're going to want to use that you know if you start to notice any concerns or issues that should get that red flag up and you don't get that that a call and see if you have any other issues going on thank you so much how did you get there's acupuncture so she tolerates things like that or massage that can be very helpful for a dog just to keep them moving and really just keeping her and career how I sure do it sounds like you're tackling a little bit of everything helped manage pain so yeah you know there are we have to be aware there are side effects with some of these medicines but they're fighting over a ferret at a San Antonio University Sarah Civic asked the Justice Department to find our lady of the Lake University in violation of the if the overall good is outweighing that risk that's what we gotta look at and keeping your pet comfortable moving in those golden years is really what I focus on just be aware this is getting kind of crusty and I wasn't sure how to get off the air and now my dogs they love a good income you can you hear a lot of love of the roof right now one eight six six zero five eight four zero five don't forget you can walk in every good thanks for your call today Anthony we appreciate you listening to animal radio thank you so much and I really enjoy your show thank you so do I get a check for two lily is a registered service fair at that helps Sarah focus on something other than panicking the schools afraid ferret might bite another student and the justice now hey it's Vinnie Penn coming at you with another party animal installment on animal radio well did for those of you who who listen to these a furry friend nineteen year old Sarah suffers from panic attacks and before getting lily the Ferret Sarah was able to keep a job and had to drop out of college eighteen I keep on a high protein diet you see the Dow just amazing you know just a beat really well exercise hi team but she's still getting good I'm used to concern with the RIMMA deal I've tried to close this other stuff but none of it seems to really work do I want wanted to start off with with the fish as a matter of fact she actually had already she's had a turtle and a frog but they've since moved like you say you know he's great appetite guest gets filled go like twice a year and just doing great so I just you know I just just the most beautiful pink fish Stella picked her out herself picked out a great one we got the Nice little query and she dressed it up and decorated it really the segments of mine hair told you a ways back that my five year old daughter Stella she's ready for a pack she was we looked at a lot of different pets the dogs cats horses and a Mo- dive boats Hartman is now reviewing the case I'm Brit savage for animal radio and a Maldive p Eric Ins with disabilities act because they won't let her keep lily her service fair on campus the school doesn't allow ferrets but Sarah says affair is much more than this dog to the to the great shape up to nineteen years old but did you do well it's kind of a funny story actually writing down the road and it and it was unhealth up to nine hundred years old are you feeding her goal or what the dog food using I paid her a very looks at her and says I want to call her magnolia and it was really a moving moment I looked at my daughter and I thought that name is is fantastic we oh I had goldfish when I was a kid I think they were Goldfish I had to Cheech and Chong but this is called a better fish Beta fish nonetheless on and it was time to get her and other but I wanted to start her with a fish I think that's a good starting point for any four five six year old went to the pet store and we picked out the hospital they put it all back together and you know L. Nineteen years ago and just live a great life how could you manage her to be in the such a Beta fish if I'm pronouncing that correctly B. E. T. T. so it's was not essentially a goldfish I don't know this was kind of a new terrain for me even though nicely we went down to the beach earlier that morning she picked out a beautiful rock to put in the tank we're all set up she looks at the fish and it's called in Kuala Maggie for short and she smiled she thought that was a great idea we got in the car with little carrying case for the fish and Stella steered the whole way home I was saying I love you Magnolia I love you Magnolia we got home transferred her into her new home dressed it up and Stella was white I again where they have no color in there I mean she's a sweetheart but my mom kinda helps make this problem a lot worse dog she thinks that she has always dreamed ran over paid it up and took it to a vet and I you know I thought it was going to die in the bed semi took care to a but that's not good for liberal but you know it gives a good quality of life what would you made me do on remedy he'll or try to find some out he knew Astana balancing party life over you know damaged his liver but I think pretty much just keep on doing and everything is good look iron sheik she's so beautiful daddy thank you so much for buying me Dan the line and I said Dan the line what happened William she said no I I changed her name I wanna call her Danda line and I saw all right if you know Dandy for sure that kind of works right daddy will go and tell everybody about Betty then Vinnie Penn party animal animal rights. Yeah Hi this is Paul Reiser and you're listening to animal radio every minute you're here you're not harming someone else can't keep changing the name it would be like all of a sudden today if I just started calling you Sarah to it stellar applies I liked that name Sarah I cutty segments I say Stella I'm GonNa go and talk about Sarah the fish today she said what kind of fish is it any way I heard Imbaba Hey bob welcome to the show what's going on hey bob well six-month-old female English bulldog by constantly that's Huffy pads are convenient but sometimes the really gross that's why the Animal Radio Studio Stunt Dog Lady Bug uses the Brilliant Pad self-cleaning Puppy Pad You're listening to animal radio you all over if your dog is no better than your country American massive running around of international pack and peaking Chihuahuas and your do is replace the role once every few weeks and the process is fast and clean in fact lady bug gives it five paws up learn more about it at brilliant pad dot com I love how it handles number one and number two it seals away the waste and replaces dirty pads for US brilliant pad keeps her home clean and smelling fresh always no of is it a girl I always heard girls were fickle but this was bringing it to new heights suffice it to say that this morning as I'm leaving to come in and take her to see the fish she says you gotta come with me gotTa come and see my fish she runs over to see the fish I hear my aunt who's ninety one years old hey that looks just like Nemo School with his Sarah I WanNa name the Fish Sarah this point I'm a little bit out of my mind I'm confused I don't know which way is up unless someone will not bite him back and here is my solution to you number one I would put a really are you telling someone that wasn't really a Goldfish and I said well daddy's learning as goes same as you I think it's called a Beta fish or a Betta fish and Stella says Magnolia who would become Dan Align had now become nemo so I have to sit down and say look we he's like Libya Syria and you know why because they can and nothing can happen in the return the same thing to your dog he will continue to act this way on watching Hal over there with this kitty okay well thank God he's calling the cat I thought he was trying to get me to we have a call for scream and snap the rope which will create bike around the neck like a dog take it from the Doggie Mama Look you should never listened that place you should never pull you should snap like a snitch AH dodger moving its hands or you moving it hands or whatever the situation could be someone detaching his hair go for it and have attitude the Giddy Giddy it's animal radio one eight six six four five eight four zero five how Labor's with you Judy Francis is screening your calls is not an aggressive biding its plan but machine as life just fierce with by and the question is why in what you can do were you the boss and you're follower that will be number one I would do number two when you've done it and you'll poppies continue acting even think to churn eats head toward you your or somebody's hand you suddenly make my day make sure aerobic needs to be slack as setting the issue up and when he madge just listen solution number one I will go to your local hardware store don't worry I'm not asking about this way you can directly address this problem how I gotta give you three or four solutions right now at least next if that's you have a problem or it doesn't work for you you can use compressed air devised by name that convene Sir if he touched inappropriately anyone you push the trigger air comes up it's twenty five or thirty five bucks ah up your point Bob I got your point listen bliss you're the bites because you gotta put Pinch Collar and your dog and teach him work properly all obedience commands I because that will sit up the tone of your relationship pretty close yeah yeah yeah that's what I came in English bulldog that big babies okay so any I don't care what that situation could be Alma growls she says one time after she snaps and after she licks and no one goes to the jail that's it because they're its own I would attach that piece of the rope to your dog speech Keller and let the dog run around was this stuff and after that like a magic and that's going to start him but again correct redirect them praise say good boy after that as nothing happened remember dogged just say good give him cheese or traits and after you've your hands again wave your hand set this issue up again at least three and I would exculpate if something doesn't work I I we're going to the next one so grabbed a pencil and pan or pan and if you can if you can sign up for today and get a five hundred dollar bonus offer while supplies last plus lock in your price for two years guaranteed call all American dish up date I'm Stacey Cohan for animal radio there's a new study that supports the stress reducing benefits of bringing your dog to work and to play with to look at and put anyone in the hospital or any you know bad harm you probably talking biologists puppy nipping little bit mouth thing like this am I right your dish authorized retailer now eight hundred five seven Oh six six three Oh eight hundred five seven Oh six six three Oh that's eight hundred pet while you're working. According to Virginia Commonwealth University steady having a dog work not only reduces the owner stress level but also increase the level of job richer randolph t barker the differences in perceived stress between days the dog was present and absent were pretty significant the employees as a whole had hired job center the Times to win and do it every day like you don't need your snap him if he doesn't do anything but every day I would ask him oh you WanNa do it to me again go ahead make my day he does by an unnamed woman recently returned from a shopping trip at the mall discover that her car had been hit by a car that was apparently driven by three dogs she later learned that the how many times I will receive now a male with this oh you can do this oh you can under- you can thank you so much for calling cost seems like you're yelling today China parking lot fender benders might not be that uncommon but parking lot fender benders caused by a trio of dogs that's a different matter according to insurance reports a group of if aggression would be toward in our dog's not for the people if it weren't number dogs that's the problem you have works I would put `electronic color and your dog and I will do the same thing you try to Mav someone else I just pushed the button just seven hundred sixty six thirty offers required vacation twenty four month early termination fee Eddie auto-pay frictions apply call for details this is an animal radio news animal radio dot com this has been an animal radio news update get more at animal radio dot com the car had left it running with animals inside they somehow manage to put it in gear the woman took pictures of the accident explaining never thought anybody would believe the story if there wasn't some evidence the insurance company however says the incidents been recognized as legitimate and they're gonNA be able to collect on that insurance I'm Stacey Cohan get more animal breaking news thank you bye-bye four but I will ask you to buy clothes line like rope very thin like a shoelace to give you a feeling of being itself I would get some trainer I will check internationalization of Canine professional because this one that it'll be tricky but if nothing his energy's high thrown long are you tired of high cable TV rates the show thanks for having me on how many animals do you have right now we have one wonderful dog that's rescue Bernie that we got for barking bitches unfair this faction then industry norms according to the humane society of the US there are numerous benefits to having dogs at work including improve staff morale worker productivity and and since it is our carbon pawprints special it seems perfectly appropriate for the season of stars we continue with Ed Begley Junior ed welcome it is animal radio you lucky dog one eight six six four zero five eight four zero five to connect with our Dream Team up satisfaction for other employees as well the study was published in the International Journal of Workplace Health Management Dogs in the workplace can make a positive difference said head recess his but one time slightly and you don was less that will be very simple she was taking early for mothers probably part of the cause here eighteen years old and she finally passed away so but we got Bernie now I had a dog I'm sorry I had a cat too I got a New York City east side okay can I play the fourth all this is the full proven solutions this is the real things I cannot tell you aalto don't have poppy protection agency my friend well if you've done able to think and let me tell you the last approach but this one I would never suggest you snap and let them go if you're gonNA pull it's GonNa get worse you have to snap and let it go once you've done it churn one hundred one hundred eighty around and I put an ad on the Internet a little picture of them and what have you my wife saw this wonderful dog 'cause we had this dog molly for about fifteen years I think and she incomer artery among employees well here's some dogs at the kind of got out in a different way you know usually to let the dogs out who let him drive this through Debbie answering your medical questions Vlada in the world famous Russian dog wizard Dogfather Joy Villani animal communicator joy Turner and our horse expert Ernie Rodeina You know yeah aluminum is not good for us you know careful about cooking in aluminum to it's better to cook and stainless steel I think give him cheese or treats and if you dust snap the rope and that would have that rope on him dragging behind him for a while for the maybe one two week would I be doing straining on your dog you can do yourself you can do with a good trainer who believes in discipline not just was the bribing with the food in different ways for instance if someone Europe would be producing those vegetables like we have it here like wherever notice full of chemical right if it's ghosts worthy humans has not relation okay I got your off dangerous much all nothing is GonNa work we're lucky in L. A. we have a blue bin which is mixed waste and those cancer aluminum and so there's a coating in them but that did they don't seem to mind that they take that with the rest of aluminum but you up these or whatever you could be they will get a little bit nippy Rick Look at this at this age he's not going to bite hard and I'm sure you're not talking about Turner gives and you know when you put these chemicals on the carpet sometimes sometimes all the time the dogs and cats are rolling around on it and so they get a big dose for their body this is the cancer spreading activities where dying like flies from the cancer asking why ask this man he will tell you why it's true pudding wayside is not near Allison in our house in some cases we have all these cleaning supplies that often quite toxic so avoid that stuff is best you can there are nontoxic may be hot meal do you know what they're doing here they're putting them in the plastic container and people just take it they think it's okay people the water to heat something to have really hot food in plastic very bad I would agree with the something called BIS females. BPA's very bad stuff even letting a water bottle which I stopped using years ago those plastic water bottles I don't buy bottled water to leave that in the sun even with that amount of heat those bad chemicals escape into only if you have one or more a lot of cats or dogs without dog and cat hair the other thing the refrigerator it makes it labor all the harder if you have a bunch of leash should a change those filters for your heating and Air Unit of force their heating or air whatever kind of air conditioning system heating system you have that filter should be changed regularly have to with a small amount of water 'cause La in Phoenix and other cities water comes at a great environmental cost. I use a little bit of water and clean that can out so that doesn't have a lot of food just like tomatoes and cucumbers they would be in jail and interesting enough for me to see when I go to let's say to pick up some cough or some shelter rescue I got that wonderful cat in ninety five and had him until just about a year year and a half ago great cat but so we got Bernie the the plastic avoid that as best you can't stay away from it and you know I just I years ago converted to a metal water bottle and just fill it up I've wonderful filtered water avenue Ed Bernie is so completely delighted he says he has just one question for you and that is how did you choose him out of all of the dogs you your fridge and indeed changing the filter will make your air conditioner work much better too I understand animal communicator joy turner has been actually talking to your dog during this interview could've had how did he get to be that Lucky I'll tell you exactly what happened way to dog just before Bernie looked kind of similar kind of a bijon poodle mix very cute dog I'm following your twitter feed you're always talking about great ways to stay inviter environmentally conscious what are you doing for your animals to keep them environmentally in fact spaces find out when these dogs are on their final day at the pound and they take them of course and save them from the gallows there and they in the winter and boiling in the summer I then started dating a wonderful young lady Rachelle Carson when up to about three hundred dollars a year when that was reported then we had a baby and more laundry and other in dog and we got three feral cats on the roof that I've managed to have a hard trap all of them and get them all fixed so there won't be a population explosion three hundred dollars a year in electric bills and also those news when I was single I got down to a hundred dollars a year when I was single but I'll be quite honest that was you know freezing it's a great dog that we got from some friends that couldn't have any more in a new house or apartment they out of something so we had her she was five week outer we had our maybe thirteen years she was about eight air dust kittens all over the back of that coil around the compressor you WANNA clean that out regularly ruled out those dust kittens out and I use those that's a good start I'm always opening up those cans for the cat food and I am thinking those who can't every day three or four cans the I'm even more nuts than you do in European Union we have a much stricter legislation the regards infusing chemicals in different I'm either in my electric car I'm on public transportation L. A. on my bike or walking I'm only sixty some odd days a year in what is normal to a lot of people internal combustion car my case a Prius how do you toast your bread I can toasted just by putting it in the toaster but we demonstrated on the show I have this at home from the tap I've filtration system in the house and and so I I filled that up and take that around that last meal a whole day if I need more than one I bring wait to get a big dose of that stuff ammonia chlorinated hydrocarbons stuff that you can't pronounce some bad stuff so avoid that as best you can there are wonderful nontoxic alternatives before Bernie and the dog was one of those snippers withdraw blood not just with me a little bit with my daughter and her friend Jackson Green well one good thing we can all do like many folks I'm out there protesting when they're gonNA put a hazardous waste site and there are some friends house or my house but the worst houses ooh wow and you know we were talking last week with Doug Gray from the Marshall Tucker band he says the one thing he hates about his Persian cat is that there's so much hair that it gets caught in his electric bike if you will that is electric in reverse that is to say rather than riding around on electric battery charges the solar batteries that I have in my what that happening on your roof to well you know everybody knows that you are really environmentally conscious we're seeing you have a going green show and you're always talking for our animal more family foundation does your without dental insurance do you have a plan to care for your teeth without spending a fortune special ed was green before green was cool that was back in the seventies winner day started nineteen and so we got thirty and and Bernie is just this loving wonderful dog you see when it got close the door you open the window I heard rumors that you pay around they've the most listened to Ted show today radio get one month free eight hundred six seven two nine two zero two eight hundred six seven two nine two zero two that's eight hundred six seven two ninety two oh two the things you know the person that house was up to six hundred a year it's probably six or seven hundred now but let me and full disclosure tell you that includes it's running a house the free people and I can run a light bulb of computer a toaster without riding the bike listen we need to take a quick break I'm wondering if you could stick around you're okay with Ed Begley junior it's our going green traducing gentle plans dot com you can save ten to sixty percent off your next visit offer as little as seven dollars a month with a thirty day money back guarantee and for a limited time sized so we demonstrated a fifteen minutes of very hard writing was enough to toast toast I could also run lightbulb all day or computer all day it was a demonstration bridge Raider Fan and and it runs that same thing happens with your filters for your heating filters and your air conditioning can make them run kinda slow You Sir very modest vehicle to win very slow but I you know I want to do my part to clean up the LA small can I quickly surmised that it was much cheaper than buying gasoline to plug it in the wall rick and I bought a decade ago it's also very cheap because I'm charging it on the solar at my house and it's also you know very easy to maintain there's no running a mini TV studio bright lights with people coming filming all the time and it just charging an electric vehicle ten thousand miles a year so three hundred days a year special right here on am radio this is betty white all animal lovers love Animal Radio Please L. Everywhere you can to make life better voile change or anything like that on that as either there's a lot of controversy right now whether or not climate change is for real I would just urge people to go to the NASA House the blankets are co two. Why add to it keep it down to a minimum and the very least you're GonNa do three things that nobody I think would dispute You know that is oh definitely do right around an electric car nine thousand nine hundred seventy s slow little thing I'm be quite grand when I say a car we're talking about golf cart with a windshield wiper and horn it is doing some part of this warming that is definitely occurring everybody agrees it's occurring if it's a natural cycle why would you add to it to put more blankets on the green with a ticker like the national debt that's o'clock that's kind of you can see it going up and and all the numbers are quite there so even if there's some natural system now and forgive me for making dog racing reference we don't go to dog races but you know the reference I'm making they don't have anything at stake here so Canasta climate will tell you that. Co Two is going up temperatures going up sea levels are rising sea ice is going down and all that stuff is there and their website after his three strikes you know we had a with great pain we tried to retrain this other dog a female it didn't take and so we with as much and it was of course much cheaper to maintain there was no tuneup oil change your fan belt or radiator flusher smug checking valve job very cheap car people driving now I have a rabbit for the NIA gaylord Nelson Came up with the idea of Earth Day and my friend Dennis Hayes is one of the organizers so that I started day and was not there in the mall in Washington but website just type a NASA climate those two words go to Noah National Geographic their website these are people that really don't have a dog in the race I don't see what go with that Dan Align it is not too long afterwards one of my aunts comes over first thing Stella wants to do the following program is a repeat of an earlier broadcast he said way across the US Vanilla and did my part with L. A. Earth Day activities and what I did was I started recycling starred composting I even bought an electric car and all that stuff I quickly learned I was doing for the incapacity news we brought it back they said okay we'll we'll take the dog back and how about another dog could we saw Bernie when house this dog is you never know and uh green of the planet was also good good to that other green which is money money search all of it so I certainly stuck with did people think you were crazy doing all this stuff then if you have the cat food still in it some residue they will reject it and aluminum is not the things to itself can create a mental impair impact. Doctor you don't want to be chew and I don't know why they put the coating on the CAN I don't know about that so many people will think you're nuts but yeah and Mo Yung Begley Junior is joining us for our animal radio carbon paw print it seems as for digital in terms of of Randy Travis here and you're listening to animal radio we have dirty air in our cities let's clean it up we use way too much money on foreign oil three hundred fifty billion with a b a year let's end that and let's put money in our pockets we can we can save money by being energy efficient let's do those three things and in so doing we will help this fight against climate change when it comes to our animals and reducing the US an animal radio dot com or download the animal radio APP for iphone and Android game thanks for listening to animal radio we'll catch next week have a great week a by and don't forget to like us on facebook and pick up on some of the goodies that we have over there A. Simply by liking us at facebook dot com slash animal radio or get your tweet on our twitter account radio dot com or download the animal radio APP for iphone and Android from the Red Barn studios this animal radio featuring veterinarian Dr if you missed any part of today's show visit us at animal that is the WHO's it's not enough the white ruler Joy Villani news director Lorie Brooks and hear your host Palley rooms and Judy Francis you could make the soup with three components which is potato water I love it that's a cooking pot by the way other products like that on your pet you don't wanNA use some of these toxic things so you know there are people out there that make wonderful products for pets I have a line of nontoxic nine this one your product line can be founded big lease best dot com correct for now we've had them in a chain stores in the La area called Gilson of course animal radio we send out alerts if there's any kind of recalls whatever news you can use it's over a twitter and animal radio for the entire DRI and we'll also put your twitter address all that information you are always tweeting about all these great products that are great for the environment and we truly toxic they cleaned great if you want something that level above of Vinegar and Water and Baking Soda which I like Vlad urged people to start with that stuff you want something and now we just got an order from whole foods so being whole foods again soon but you can find you can buy them online at beg these best dot com and they're great products they're not eh that Ed Begley Junior joining us thank you so much for your time today thank you for having me on that's it for the show today if you missed any part of it you can check out the podcast at Animal Radio Dot Com Asleep simple baking soda to get those things out of the clay think when that doesn't work then I go for the Bon Ami here who's always talking about vinegar and water it's great and it was co written by our next guest she is the wife of Pete Townsend but I probably won't be mentioned that again because she is an incredible musician any products called deglise earth responsible products there are others out there you please use any them if you're on a serious budget as I was a nineteen seventy I use vinegar and water for a lot of stuff have to clean up I I still use it things you know I use baking soda to clean up instead of Cami I never use harsh stuff like comet the US with the bond so we're staying in La and a hotel and I'm sitting in his study room surrounded by his computers the animals yes I know that I know that you used to have a dog named whistle named after John Entwistle and but spent a lengthy stint as an organist in funeral home that is true where you performed eleven times a day I did I mean on a good day we would do eleven funerals above that that does a few other things get get my products very good okay we'll put a link over at the website there at animal radio dot com for those driving along right now wanna learn a little more about a Begley wants to Yorkshire terrier because he was childhood friends with John was so so he just kind of has you know some stuff that I don't want in it but to you know Bon ami is the the stuff I keep on the sink and I have for four years because I use it so rarely I suppose to be playing music for something so important sure sure you are an animal that's my favorite thing about you is you are an animal lover and gadgets and do you get inspired to go over and best with his gadgets. I'm not very good with Gotcha all the gadgets to him I'm I'm a a little bit older than I started when I was about nine but still quite young that wikipedia just it didn't have it right there but it does say there that you Own Right and a big animal lover Rachel Fuller joining us set the scene are you sitting around with a bunch of dogs on your lap and Pete's I'm I'm Pete's on tours of working at McDonald's or you know a clothing store but that's where I ended up working and it was but it felt like a service it felt like a privilege really I suppose because I was walking I had to be fairly detached from from what was going on emotionally It was a strange thing to do I think looking back I'd have been much better oh four okay we'll clinic dot dog dogs yeah we have we have an Irish Tiriac who tuppence and we have a march that we rescued it off but not translated he always have a Michigan accent because I had easily from Michigan sometimes related so people when using that might be a little bit over the top Oh my God I mean their entire life the little ones like to drink Evian from glass Oh yes eh because because what he's telling us he's acting like a typical Russian wife you know manic Kip many chemicals and she could terrible Luddite I don't even like to play an electric piano really are like a real peon I but he's very up to the mark with it will now you've been playing piano since six years old donny drink that's pretty spoiled you run your affiliated with rescuing Antiga as I remember that's right and what is because it's not a real audience that you know they're not going to be applauding you afterwards definitely not it somebody's so I found out that there was a shelter on the island in animal rescue and I thought Oh you know all go down and volunteer you know couple of days a week go for a walk and that doesn't work for me but then it'll ones I've trained from birth to sleep in so they they get when I get up so point look for the bad ingredients number one soda Moore rates sulfate avoid that one joe don't look at me like I know you that was that was eleven years ago so he's probably gone to the dog park in the Sky I imagine well this was a while ago it was actually longer than that it was Fourteen years ago it was p apart Yorkshire terrier part our rottweiler called Pudding You said that they sleep in bed so I imagine you spoil them right yeah you can come train my dog who wakes me up early in the morning what would you say that you do really is spoiling those animals those dogs I mean is there something when I was playing for the services so I watched that for about two years so I think probably I added it out once I must have played for about two two and a half thousand funerals it's a bit like well I didn't know that really small happy and like I preferred a big dope you could still get into bed and spoon but anyway I thought yeah you know I should from Antigua and then we have two little ones we have a Yorkshire terrier who pay not because I just after we lost whistle I managed for awhile and then I said to me he was he was childhood friends with John and John's mother always had Yorkshire Terriers Pete How often a style gic fondness for them and definitely feels quite spoilt to me and that started with and by the time we left us she wouldn't drink

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LCB 184 - Top 5 Least Favorite Sports Movie, Bad Boys 3!?, Ready or Not Review and Howard Stern vs. Chewbacca Mom with @EddieBarstool

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LCB 184 - Top 5 Least Favorite Sports Movie, Bad Boys 3!?, Ready or Not Review and Howard Stern vs. Chewbacca Mom with @EddieBarstool

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They haven't done anything one time. <hes> i was in high school and there was a there's like a german exchange student living with one of my friends and we took him we took him to ebonics and he didn't really know the whole deal that if you don't know the white intentionally review view is one of those type restaurants and he he was so mad saves very german this is this is very improper then we told him and he he got he got a good laugh anyway. This is a super mid west pod now. This is like yeah. I mean look. If if anyone wants to talk to me about woodfield mall of i'm here for you. I believe you that that's a real place. It could have made it up. We'll feel feel more yeah do you as the first time i ever saw rainforest cafe. Can i forget it. Hell yes right right. There below the electronics boutique. Did you have a a hippo or a crocodile l. In the little pond in the front of the rain dude i don't even remember i didn't know that i didn't know there was a variations on the rainforest. Apparently there dr what's that other place always says that's out of chicago that people say like they live there and saved from chicago but it's not chicago n. Forget what it is naperville naperville. That's it yeah. There's a difference for you that i know i remember minded. There's there's there's more. There's many of those places i might take this. <hes> you can say you're from chicago cog or i won't judge you if you live in illinois area but if you're you're in the region up there in northwest indiana and you say you're from chicago from valpo. Nah share not how we're just doing coli v._r. No one call you reference per pod and i have other one's queued up so very start locally chicago. I haven't heard that name in longtime drag sake anything going on trill anything cracking. We're we only recorded like two days ago but yeah we were just in the lab <hes> making beautiful beautiful music last time in here you did you did break wind into the mike. You don't know that was me and you know that was real was saying we can we can do a lot of stuff posted it. Not much is going on with me. I <hes> i have to get back into the gym this week and so far that hasn't happened <hes> i'm. I'm feeling <hes> philly very self conscious about my body right. Now i was trill. Do you always furiously rub your head. Will you record the pots. I'm interested here. Get think yeah. I i <hes> this kind kind of thing. This is like this is like my bird man palmer up except it's just my forehead smart get the brain juices flowing might start. I have have a special special paper towel that a catch the dead skin you get those off <hes> <hes> can we do a quick rest in peace today. The jeremy renner app jeremy renner released a statement today. It was incredibly upsetting. His app would be shutting down for good on. Here's what he said okay and again if you don't know the jeremy renner app is jimmy renner app apple jeremy renner the social media platforms jeremy renner his music. You can post photos. You can't click on profiles so like you could really just interact on one post and if you post something and they're not notifications go too far down around you. Then can't see your own post. It's terribly constructed at but it was glorious for like twenty four hours. I said the app has jumped the shark literally. Do you too clever individuals and he said literally bonds jumping. The shark was him literally jumping the shark. This seems very figuratively tiddly unless there was a shurgging jump that's true okay <hes> do too clever individuals that were able to manipulate ways to impersonate me and others within the app. I've asked like signing up like he's acting. He got fucking hacked by like some super genius kid and it's like no we were just people signing up under fake names escape x the company that runs shut it down immediately in refund anyone who has purchased any stars of the last ninety days we'll get back to that in a second what was supposed to be a place for fans to connect to the judge has turned into a place that is everything i detest and can't or won't condone my sincere apologies for this to have not turned out the way it was intended to all the super fans who have supported report me with your words of encouragement your words or encouragement jeremy might be wrong might be right though amazing art stories and time shared on the app genuine thank. You and i hope to see you on instagram. Twitter youtube and facebook signed j._r. So a couple of things omar god germany runners-up been destroyed big the building golden. Daddy go by jail when you know that there's a v._g._a. J._r. like you can't do the have you heard of this app <unk>. Who's taking the heat for this because you know. This wasn't like he had anything to do with it. I'm sure but he's very mad at someone right. They cleaned it up because i'll tell you what jacket a fake accounts kendrick was you were so i start out with cameron so you reply to jeremy renner picturesque traffic asking why i said i said hey hey buddy. It's would you like to go get a hamburger sometimes too great to catch dash ben affleck and some lady respond to me like hey. If you're gonna control at least use the right grammar said hey i was in the town and that was my only and then you were kirk kerr cameron right yeah of course salmon yeah saving christmas love your stuff jeremy peters like the god ads now right like he does like pop ups like the movies the <hes> of the boats that the rapture movies over those and like it was like the the leftovers but it was the he is based around the biblical prophecy rapture. It was called like <hes> left behind the left behind series good for us in a lot of i think i i t to your question eddie. I think i think jeremy renner's mad at us like he he he he did say say that the there was a company that runs the app so he pushed pushed him off through them under the bus. Jeremy renner doesn't run this app but he the <hes> he he went into the guilt trip to say like it's supposed to be a place for fancy connect and it turns into place that everything i detest in and i just didn't know he hated dennis in his bronze that much about so. Many people thought this was trill. This is one of the best complex i've ever gotten. People thought they were like holy. Shit trill is in the jeremy renner app his dennis franz. I actually signed up dennis franz so i was that was that was a compliment. People think i'm as funny as mr ball but what i did was i just commented on almost every single jeremy renner picture from the last month or two and my i i would i would comment. Things are make sure to have the same thing in each one. So somebody was bon. Jovi bon jovi. There are many impersonations by the way let's get out of the way dennis franz and ben affleck worth the problem. It was like casey anthony jeffrey epstein those those were the problems i i said great picture jon bon jovi this reminds me of all the great hair and wigs or makeup department had on the set of my popular television show n._y._p._d. Blue and then dash dennis franz n._y._p._d. Blue i did the the same when i signed up said hey it's me dennis franz from the hit show n._y._p._d. Blue signed dennis franz and so i did it over and over again got a lot of hate it. I kind of liked it. Stems franz sounds like so harmless. I i've never had a parody account or anything like that. I was so pumped. I've got banned within about about an hour of me realizing that i might have a gold mine to make something funny for like a couple of days. Band gone made fake facebook's the next day all band. I'm actually kicked off facebook on those accounts to my kirk cameron. I yes so it was it was disappointing because it was it was actually genuinely fun and i didn't feel bad because like you said ben affleck hamburger funny right i was being dennis that is front and then you had people pretend to be in there. The problem exactly kick them off. That's too far dennis. Franz constantly asked me if he's my father so i appreciate you guys those years. Is that why yeah i use acog. I two guys your father. Thank you for sure so i. I don't know they were like that. Took a team like they were banning. I think people saw this got serious and he he starts the app off or he started past tense the app off saying like it's been too hard to reply to people on twitter twitter and facebook but there are a lot of people in that app said any harder. I don't know i it didn't make much sense but it's a shame that something is good as that has to ago it was it was pretty great and he coined the phrase. I didn't know happy rennes day. It's always wednesday in my heart. The first comment under happy rennes day from the picture that i see on on here said austin powers yeah baby. There's a judge brings me so love rennes day stuff like it was the dumbest shit and you're gonna start friends friday. We're gonna we lo- wednesday. How about we do franz friday and you never got to that point because he banned us. Also i spent like ten bucks on star search the end what does it do. You means yeah you boost your post so it's like the top of the order so it's more likely eh jeremy renner actually seize your comment him making gross money off this. Oh disgusted not only think about it. Although he does the the developers although presumably concern shady it is that he didn't pay a lot so shout out to you renner your looking at the pricing structure for the stars so it starts at one ninety nine for for two hundred stars which by the way that equals like i think like two boosts to like twenty yeah go ahead sorry then it goes all the way up to a very not arbitrary number of stars fourteen thousand eight hundred stars which is a ten thousand thousand two hundred stars and getting a forty six hundred stars for free. This costs ninety nine dollars and ninety nine cents in in real world money. You just get some brands books. Which is what he should have called. It just called it like ren bug ren book anyway as much i. I think what this just goes to show is jeremy renner. I perceive him to be one of the most serious people in hollywood hollywood <hes> based upon a lot of his interviews interactions with people like jimmy fallon and our prince james corden. He probably didn't get at at at no point when they're explaining to him like a group of trolls have taken over in their ironically posting is o._j. Simpson he probably lives like why are they doing that. No idea why people do stuff on the internet i feel like he's just doesn't know how the internet works. Get all not even social media really because he made his own social media because the other ones confuse them so much. Somebody's like someone's like yeah. Have you ever been on the internet. He's like yeah. That's that's the place people by stars from me. You can buy my stars. They're all right that that's the retrospective of the of the chairman apiece that was just that was just. I was never gonna talk about it again. Can we talked about last bottles elvin and then you just shut it down today. In the morning <hes> down the is it only gone the he made his money. He's he probably had a hefty penny off that. I don't think about the developers work great no. They were actually infect bad. It's like let's just do instagram except there's feeds the inability to profile. You can't see profile. He can't see your own comment. You can't scroll like and and and again once the post that you posted hosted <hes> got too far down notification block you could no longer go click on it. You can only gonna come in yeah yeah. It's just not great not great all right. Let's let's do a quick read. Let's let's do a quick when here <hes> you guys know that yamaha makes pianos and motorcycles yes oh. You didn't know that i know you're gonna learn in a lot okay you did though yeah i frequently drunkenly played a yamaha piano in the lobby of apartment building keyboard aboard right. They used to give those out on figure it out. Yeah yup yeah summer sanders yeah. She got a keyboard he got so. I know i know i guess but did you know they also make audio visual. 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I was saying that it's it's something you know when you have a few to drink and you see a piano and he just kind of want to smash the keys yeah the the the yamaha's are good to do do that on because it's a yamaha. It's reliable. I'm not gonna break it. Also they make good harmonicas. Yeah saying you've never played a yamaha harmonica. Shame on you can use code barstool barstool and the number ten one zero when you're checking out on yamaha's website that you see dot yamaha dot com and use code barstool ten at checkout aren't. Let's get into it. All right. Little special treats for everybody. Enjoy this skit. We already know that you're going to love the joker so before watching the movie. Here's a special exclusive sneak preview of the joker verse. Hey i'm the smoker in my universe. We treat nonsmokers like smokers are treated in this universe. Isn't that crazy l. o. Brother i'm the and my universe i do twisted crumbs zeal london town. I'm the broker on saying that. I have a cash bioline dopp right now so you better talk to my guy called bank. Give you a good mortgage. Hey i'm the awoke in my universe. We canceled. Tom hanks for eating at a chick-fil-a. Oh hey there fellas on the poker always had a downer sheboygan onto the walkie in boom off two hundred up here. Hey everybody. I'm the choker in on the stroke her. You've actually already met a few times before hey everyone on. The coker is anyone what else feeling constipated you thank you. I love nashville. Let's get this concert started. I'm the fulcher and it's not a job output mine. It was march joke on the line. I really did this time. Isn't it twist <hes> eh. It's may call go brady love. The pets make sure to catch joe gruber summer twenty twenty but see the first part. Just you talking and then the second part's. It's the actual song okay. Thank you thank you. I love nashville. Let's get this concert started. I am the fokker and it's it's not your show do not know the canes so that song no it was not your fault but mine nine song. You never heard like little lineman for new habit. I can't like i was sporkin. Play the whole you know. We'll get to your joke but mine. It was my job on the even worse. I significantly worse. I don't know the song go. He's the eh. Here's coming up. It's coming up coming up. Let's get into it. How about this trailer. Drop from the fuck and clouds bad boys three bad boys for life. They knew we had a lot of trails to talk about a shot up the rundown of the top with bad boys for life. Here's the premise marcus burnett burnett burnett. I forget that. I don't remember a guy who has what bad bad boys in a long time true. I the only thing i remember boys to is is the mouse or rat sex scene. Oh i totally forgot off to a bad start there for an pronunciations today. That's one on the board does lucca yeah. He's now police spectrum. Mike lowry is in a midlife crisis. Both of them united tonight again. When a romanian mob boss whose brother they defeated promises them and important bonuses revenge just the duo or about to retire officially directed by a deal deal el arbi and bill follow not michael bay michael bay did not return for the third movie which can't say it's the worst thing in the world. Martin lawrence will smith back my guy joe. Pantoliano ignorance is bliss. I love him. The fucking stake in some sopranos vanessa hudgens also in this one char alexander senator ludwig who was the villain in the first hunger games. <hes> you recognize him probably wasn't striker something think he's in a viking scorpion. Something like that mr to it wasn't this is one of the top district is one of the best districts also d._j. Collared he'll be well him and will smith collapsed at the end of a ladan <hes> eddie. We'll start with you your guest bad boys for life for me. I'm going to be honest. I got some hobson shaw vibes from this. I didn't hate it and i wanted to hate this movie kind of intrigued by it so let me ask you this first and foremost as a movie podcast. Do you guys movie shame around here. Now of course no no okay because i've never seen the other ones so the first two yeah. That's what i'm saying. It's like everyone's got the movie with like i've never seen this one and it's like dude. What how come you never seen it. You know what i mean louis the scene from hot fuzz. You've never seen bad boys. Do you ever though joe pantoliano. He looks fantastic. Watch a trailer he look. I hope he has a big role in it. Because he looks he looked great running around gone. Fuck fuck fuck over went over and over again. It's like all right joe. I love martin. I think i like martin more than i like will smith okay if anybody's steps up to you and you say bad boys and like freaks the fuck out like you will do when when someone says emptying the godfather tell me shut the fuck up. I mean bad boys. Bad boys has some cultural relevant but if anyone gets angry at you that just that's a bit aggressive. I wouldn't call it must see by any stretch of the imagination using are you. Are you in on this <hes>. I think it looks like it kind of knows what it is which is helpful right so like the bad boys. Both movies are very very. Are you like corny action movies which like i get behind. If that's the way it looks like it's an updated version of that bad boys two whatever the filter they used on it throughout the entire movie very michael bay very very michael bay they didn't like it so looking at it through sunglass exactly yeah like very yellowish orange tint on the whole movie and it looks like the got rid of that has some updated kinda shooting style for more like modern action scenes so i can get behind that as long as it doesn't try and take itself too seriously and i'm very much behind that yeah i agree. I don't think it will i did. They know what they're going for this big old nostalgia. It's been awhile since we got a bad boys. Spend what sixteen years is this coming out this year at twenty. It'll be safe six years as of right right now seventy s. sixteen no be the seventeen numerical years but i'm excited. I think the combination of martin lawrence and will smith it is <hes> through the bad boys bad boys. Two movie was pretty much the only thing about those movies that was enjoyable. That's what people remember them four and i don't really remember anything anything other than <hes> like cool cars and explosions and that's your standard michael bay jerry bruckheimer fair but what set it apart was just the buddy cup cup dynamic in buddy kept on amex or kind of something that never really gets to me always enjoy good buddy cup bill. It's lines most when he says like no. You can fix the debt in the car. It's all remember this. I like this banter. They got going on. It's releasing alongside doolittle robert downey junior dr doolittle doolittle movie. She's tough tough crowd. I just like that. It's not taking itself too seriously. I like the end of first of all the remix version of the song pretty good in the trailer and i like the end and yet all the people in the precinct singing it and shut the fuck up. You're saying it wrong. They're hardly to learn. That's a funny little quip. I like that. It's a good little trailer stinger that does you can and have a toronto. Excuse me like slurring drunk. You can't have a trailer nowadays little stinger at the end. It's great to see will smith doing a sequel as well. You didn't do the independence-day. I didn't stay true and so it's like he he actually he's feeling a soldier. This time i kill them off in a movie. Is that what he was dead. Do like that one. I i gave that movie with three out of one hundred three out of one hundred. I affirm three. That's that's a harsh three. It was a very harsh three yes so what are the only sequels done. He did men in black two. He did <hes> bad boys to do three as well who some say he did. A sequel to a franchise this is what i mean more than anything else so demand in black two and bad boys two and i think they unfortunately cancelled westworld to <hes> or no is it robot west with two unfortunately cancelled that ashamed great song in that movie great part of the whole movie. You want to get that thing going yeah anything else bad boys for life. I think it was i. I think the trailer was good. I'm i'm very surprised. I'm very surprised again by the way now that will smith would and create some buzz but not the harp on what i said about terminator trail last week dropped it cold dropped at middle of the day no build up till you why surprise couple thousand retweets and i'm sure a ton more on the official count. It was good good little marketing buzz today. People were talking about it so bad. Boys smart move. I think people are trying to talk themselves into people are trying to justify why they liked the the trailer. I think it's easily justifiable. I think it's a decent trailer. There's nothing wrong with it. Here's a trailer that came out the other day. This was a shocker as well the joe joe rabbit trailer. This is the first first full trailer for tyco. T._d.'s joe joe rabbit. I'll read the synopsis again. During the second world war lonely german boy joe joe rabbit bessler has has his worldview turned upside down. He discovered that his single mother rosie played by scarlett. Johansson is having a young jewish girl plymouth. Thomas mackenzie great young actress in their attic aided by only only his imaginary friend in the form of idiotic version of adolf hitler played by tyco t._d. Joe must confront his blind national liz. I can't talk today. <hes> san rocco also in this stephen merchant rebel wilson this trailer. I couldn't have been first of all one good glad this is coming out disney. There was rumors that they may not want to release yes. It looks like that's water under the bridge is going to be coming out. It comes out pretty. Soon actually comes out october eighteenth. We're going to get our first reviews weakened at toronto international film festival. Maybe we'll get a ten minute sanding ovation. You never know that all eight or ten minutes standing oh but trailer trailer pretty good <hes> it starts off. Trill trill did the song at the start a little german version of smash mouth. That's-that's didn't expect that ever hear no i it's. I think you have the majority opinion there on smash mouth yeah. I didn't expect your german remix of what was it wait believer. I think that's the name of the song yeah by smashmouth smashmouth smashmouth singing no for sure me is just a song but it's a german band or whatever but believers a monkey so you're right then it was that cover to yeah all all the all the article said smash mouth all right. It was a smash mouth song correction though by the way regardless pretty cool trailer yeah. How wish why did i i. I feel like i should know that song but yeah you're right. I know this is cool. This is that that it's funny because it's like you're saying with the disney thing that big worry around that was were they going to <hes> where they're going to tweak it any and it seems like with the release being somewhat imminent. The answer's no i. We'll say like probably not a great day to be p._r. For this movie no a we won't get into what she loves during the fucking pot not just unforced errors loves the unforced errors but <hes> other than that looks like a good movie <hes> take it what t._d.'s in the <hes> he's got kind of earned our trust and that's where all stand on it towel find the smashmouth find song any. What did you think i mean really and pushed. I feel too because a lot of movies. I've seen you've frequently seen the trailer my kind of movie. I'm sure it will be the the boy scouts. There's gonna be some funny moments. Manson obviously hitler's like a character. You have them do something out of the ordinary like he do and it's funny. You know so <hes> like i said i i. I won't say it but it looks. It looks like people will join. I think did you see authority. I do not oh see see not home and then you we lining up to watch this everytime he took the shadows. Okay i gotta we gotta get you playing movies. No yeah yeah. I it sounds like just gotta get in on the joke here. We'll get you hooked because like once so you once again. Let's take a train. It's very tough to get off. Okay <hes> but yeah no. It looks good and again the one thing i <hes> let me give you more than anything else as the people that i know that have seen this said that the script doesn't rely too much on like lazy humor so it's not going to be oh learned nazis bad. Oh let's ignore. It's very witty and good humor. It's not lazy which is good and i think that a lot of the questions that got left within the first trailer get answered in this trailer and it's just a more complete picture of what the movie's gonna be like and i'm super excited looks stylistically great very taika. Love it and so what someone compared to it's sort of like <hes> oh what's his name <hes> shoot fucking budapest hotel guy wes anderson. It looks like wes anderson. Hitler movie and i'm very for that. I mean i i'm i'm into it. I wear white t._d. Guys so we gotta get you caught up. I mean it sounds like this. I just guy so he is the fucking guy he truly has figured out. Refinance out is it is it is believer we are. We aren't going nuts. Shame came on the fucking articles that apparently by jack white. What are you <hes> right. Jack white did a german cover of believer believer. It's what it's what it says. It's what it's there. Were two songs in the trailer. There were two songs the first twas i'm a believer by the monkees okay so this won't got it right and then heroes by david bowie german version is gonna do the german version of seven nation army what it would have gotten people too scared understandably so wow all right attributed to the fucking monkeys people monkeys roll over in their grave are they did they live. I'd say half an guess right now. Yeah yeah at the snap <hes> moving on this one man. I don't have many takes on this. This is the most internet movie movie of the year. They made a movie out of between two ferns with zach galifianakis. The premise zach galifianakis dreamed of becoming a star arbat when will ferrell discovered his public access tv show between two ferns and uploaded it to funnier die zach became a viral laughing stock now zak in his career taking a road trip to complete a series of high profile celebrity interviews restored reputation. Zach alpha nak is obviously the lead here but people playing themselves will ferrell math mcgahn benedict cumberbatch peter dincu chrissy teigen david letterman jason schwartzman tiffany haddish paul rudd rashida jones it was hard to read rasheeda and haddish tiffany radish rush john legend adam scott brie larson john ham aquafina hailee steinfeld john choky honorees chance the rapper and tessa thompson <hes> ken jack internet man himself. I got i mean between two ferns very funny. I i don't have the slightest bit of interest in this movie. I'm i'm kinda interested in it mostly because it's free movie we were big fans like anytime netflix yes so it was like a streaming movie. We automatically like it. Your saw ten points more just because we don't have go to see it sure so between two ferns big fan of gulf next i loved between two ferns actual was was it on it was insult- swim right the original. Yeah i think so yes so i i liked watching that. When watching mostly funnier di was adult swim on what i mean now i i look think funnier died in my head. Yes okay so and i was just about to say i remember watching most of it on youtube more than anything else but i always thought it was funny like very dry comedy <hes> and this is probably the biggest kassy's put together together ford outside of it. I think he had obama on once but other than that. I think i'm i'm in. I'm in on this. I'm a golfer guy. You between two ferns guy listen i. I'm not at all and when i when he's russell the trailer i was like i was gearing up to be like okay like whatever but i actually thought the trailer was really done well like i think this is how you doing ensemble. No happy fucking new year's day like you know that eh this seems like like like whether or not whether you like chris teague it or not. The ending scene was funny. The one where you hold their hand up to the room and he's measuring the plants are or the ferns. I should say i i enjoyed it. I think it was. I think they're going to do it right because i don't think anyone's gonna be overbearing their appearance. I guess yeah new year's day well known for the casting michael bloomberg. Bergaz himself has a good one. People were going nuts over that trill this. This is something like for internet as we talk. We've never really touched on on between two ferns. I i've been a fan here and there of the <hes> the between two ferns what what was the one he did with <hes> <hes> gosh. Someone got really competitive with them and it was pretty funny for was it damon. I don't know i do remember talking about but vaguely. I think a lot of pretty combative between twos backyards i mean i like the original concept dozen quite i mean. I'm now that i can say. I'm sure like you know i don cheadle captain planet funnier die movie. I would watch that that was such a good skit. That's fair. That's fair jig damiri history pretty good. No i think it was was a steve carell who tried to turn it around on him or something. I can't remember i like him from spot to spot. I'm skeptical of this it. It looks funny but it's it's. It's a weird premise for movie which doesn't make it bad. It just potentially makes it harder to pull off in a manner that leaves you feeling like you watch to complete cohesive movie. I kind of like the netflix may have bought the rights or something i i mean. This may not be how it worked and approximately the production but i'm not going to it's like they bought the rights to do between two ferns and i respect there like let's make it different. Let's let's let's mix it up a little bit making a movie i did that. I'm always i'm always an idiot for cameos. It's really like technically cameos cameos. I guess you loved it. I loved entourage i. I i think entourage gets a necessarily hated upon pawn i do. I think it's a good show watching it today no do i think it's a good show in the context of two thousand five yeah they they. Your sucked asked last one of the best shows of the year. It wasn't nobody nobody ever thinks back to two thousand five thousand six cad. Take me back to two thousand five five i know why are you what i'm not a macabre way. That's a direct shot to the naperville so we're we're still going on here. Want to save the by the way we're doing purchases earlier hyun ready or not in top least favorite sports movies. We don't offend any couple movies in the mid west based on that list hope. We don't offend anybody all right. We'll we'll see we'll see. I'm already waiting for rookie of the year. That's that was a straight direct shot when they built the white sox stadium the the new comiskey which is now like one dot cellular hand-held dot com field or whatever whatever why didn't they make the the the home plate face the skyline well they wanna on gary. Indiana is what it faces says now so. I don't want knows that e._s._o. Disc outfield when you're looking out gary nance so the so many stadiums have skyline yeah but not on us and gary get awa- fta view now not a great smell from gerry. I'm guessing that it was like the sun or something. That's just what i'm going to tell myself because i just i'd never got folks. That never got it. It's been talking chicago talking talking midwest a couple of talking midwest nice moments <hes> we got one more trailer before. We have an ad read here. How about greta in hansel. How long have you been been looking for a new remake of <hes> hansel and gretel since a lot of people like handling. Don't get it either. I mean how how often do you damn if they could make another hansel and gretel or hansel hansel. What are you dark premise on hansel and gretel so i don't know if you guys remember that one but it was a very strong episode great show so i'm kind of excited for war. Wasn't there a hostile slash hansel and grit with jeremy renner say. I think there was one. It was her in the the girl from the clash of the titans. I don't remember her name. Brothers grimm brothers also i do think touchdown hansel and gretel. Oh it was just called hansel and gretel witch hunters sick ah which owned he's got guns but they're witch hunters funky johnson honestly to that's probably closer to the <hes> the the actual fairytale than the the distilled sanitized hans and gretel version. I got in kindergarten premise. The story is described. I'm just being set a long time ago. In distant galaxies far get a real explanation premises written so weird and we competed pedia. She'll learn to my librarian various. <hes> the story is described as being set a long time ago in a distant fairytale countryside and focuses on a young girl put by so feel 'less lillies elites her little brother sam leak into a dark wood in into a dark wood in search took food and work it just as dark would only to stumble upon a nexus of terrifying evil. It actually looks kinda spooky. Yeah <hes> spooky true. I kind of bought it would spooky little shines on my pants yeah. It's it kind of had a witch vibe. Little witchy supernatural witchy has i liked to which five <hes> to that i mean the which i i think it was good as everyone thought it was. I thought like the way it was shot in the woods. You know they didn't go to village with it and went more which y so. I thought it was. I thought it was the looks pretty good. That's like <hes> i mean i guess the witch was in the original fairytale but i never remember that much about hansel and gretel. All i remember the breadcrumbs right. I yeah breadcrumbs breadcrumbs definitely breadcrumbs so breadcrumbs remember making up right now. I think it's the which leads him there with the breadcrumbs or something and then she tries to eat them right kids. You wanna see a dead body the german which you always this is the time this we're in spring. Daniel stern territory <unk> howard. It's davis center. It's been an extreme until after the ad read got it someone aiming here seen it all worked for the howard stern show but i i will reveal who it is. We'll get to the howard stern talking a second here anything else on i mean why are they cranking. He's like do they have the rights to hansel and gretel. They must've just expired after like two hundred years yeah. That's probably common domain. 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Now for the sneakers are gone. You don't want the sneakers gone could be easy up. There got you got ever know when we want to find out go to was their code again. Go dot com and enter code lights might say wrong. No no no. I was just like really uh-huh alleyoop okay yesterday. Hustlers remember that movie. We talked about based on a true story. The story centered around centers around a group of strippers in new york city led by an aging aging an ambitious single mother as they live stealing hustle dozens of wealthy men when the sex industry bottoms out during the late two thousand financial crisis a journalist covering story for magazine interviews one of the ringleaders and tries to figure out where it all went wrong this comes out september thirteenth. It debuts at tiff this weekend the toronto international film festival stars constance woo jennifer lopez julia stiles kiki palmer lily reinhart lizardo very popular right now in cardi b. new trailer kind of the same as the other one so i mean we've already talked about eddie hustler. Are you going to be lying to see hustler. I'm upset that you forgot usher yeah. Okay playing himself as well boss move known for the movie the faculty. If you guys have seen rate movie great sludge jon stewart gas dead low key. One of the biggest star studded cast like ever ever like that. There's there's some big timers in the faculty. He's incredible to usher really yeah shoot or do you play froze growth owns biggest fan. I think that's a kamioka tree washer. Damn faculty really did have baller jesus christ patrick brewster her josh hartnett. Oh my god. I know it's weird. It goodness dodger. That would be a good one if it's on anything pretty good also in the a._b._c. made for t._v. Movie japan show about pinocchio were julia louis dreyfuss played the blue fairy and drew carey played. Japan got new one of those coming out to think god. What a new pinocchio terry. Whose line is it anyway impression can they wouldn't do that. I sure can't i don't think i don't even know what your carry sounds like anymore. Just talks fast prices right guy. I don't know washer played island ringmaster. You remember how star studded his the drew carey. Show was. Oh my god yeah. He got everybody on their. You had <hes> <hes> who's the guy the scottish guy the talk show craig craig ferguson craig ferguson was on it <hes>. He's so goddamn funny. Oh he's the funniest of them the i i did a ranking of brown's twenty years today and number ten for me was drew. Carey did the intro to the browns. I came back in nineteen ninety nineties. He's like let's get going. Let's make some noise. Let's let's leave our mark than they lost forty-one. Nothing's tough. That's rough can have them back after their carry. Stay the fuck away from the game on sunday. They please please stay away love you. They'll season ticket holder. Yeah i think he is this movie. I don't know do you think it's going to do. Royal hustler's like this cast is i kinda no joke i mean i don't know if they can act but like it's a true story too which is kind of even more interesting liz. Oh fans jaylo fans of cardi b. fanned and glad to see julia stiles back back in the game not a born movie yet for whatever it is it. Is it p._g. Thirteen it has to be out assuming it's gotta gotta be yeah we'll do it will do really well p._g. Thirteen rated r really interesting about that. That's surprising like doc <hes> that makes it more interesting from my standpoint. Just in terms of you know maybe it being little grittier or whatnot but you would have thought just just with like the the mass appeal of the some of the stars in this movie to a wider age range that they would have tried to fit a p._g. Rating into this p._g. Thirteen rated p._g. P._g. stripper movie. It'd be tough. Yes thirty million dollar. Budget seems a little high though i'm surprised by yeah yeah i mean i don't really we know what type of production value than maybe. J.lo's getting a nice check out of this might be her twenty nine million the leader of the court yeah barstool podcast corp big cat and alex rodriguez. You'll get a podcast called the corporate if you're not willing to deal and making deals shark tank shark alex rodriguez bass former baseball player yes. I put shark tank. There's like a p._m._t. Next to go nuts. I believe parliament takes screaming next door jesus. You are the number one pot scream. All you guys won't respond interfaces yeah. They just had another million listeners. Let's move on just mercy. A little more serious movie here attorney brian stevenson takes the case of walter mcmillen. A man imprisoned for murder the person taking the case michael b jordan. The person imprisoned jamie foxx brie larson also in this tim blake nelson o._j. Shea jackson junior this movie comes out on christmas but again debuts at the toronto international film festival this weekend most movies for the rest of the year like most movies movies not star wars basely premiering and cats premiering this weekend. Yes that's we'll get a lot information on. That would have been just mercy. I like the duo of michael jordan jamie foxx into it very strong. Doing what do you call pre larsen as well of really interesting stories based on a true story right yeah. It's it's based offer the biography or i think it's a biography of of bryan stevenson or a book he wrote yes. I think always interesting like innocence project project sorta stuff right like it always sort of capture. Everyone's attention <hes> what was making a murderer <hes> sort of stuff although i'm sure they're making the murder guy might have actually guilty whatever his name was steven ever yeah yeah probably allegedly allegedly guilty but i think this one is obviously a little bit. Were way more murky than that so i'm very interested. Watch this well yeah i. I'm right there there with you. I i think the cast is great. <hes> d- <hes> destin daniel cretin is is the director and he what else what is he don he's doing. I think she is doing change. That's right boom little like preview there. Yes so i'm immortal. I'm excited his because he's done before. Have you guys seen the glad the glass castle or shirt turn short term twelve short-term twelve albums very brie larson. That's free larson movie yet yeah. I'm thinking i'm thinking the director. I'm you know i i haven't seen those but i'm very interested interested in seeing what just mercy is all about based on not only the cast but also leaked leading into shank chee not to make it all about comic book movies because god knows we do that all the time but you know that's the curiosity of me no but that i mean michael b jordan he's coming off fantastic four cre- to black panther i mean like just all these major big popcorn movies and he's hopping this kind of going to be interesting because he's a totally different reason to yeah like like he's a totally different person now than he was before he did all this in two thousand fifteen which are funny because he did fruitvale station which was smaller and then he does creed and he rolls into the big things and now a little little no more with oscar winner and and jamie fox and i think michael jordan has a chop to do something with both been doing it to black panther himself can have been twenty one bridges from the russo brothers others still sorta come next year but this this looks pretty good and anything relating to short-term twelve american short control is very him okay so from strippers something serious or something that i mean. This looks fucking terrible. This is awful checkout. Adam devine in the righteous gemstones very funny new movie called jesse. I think as i say it's a it's a seri- slash alexa based comedy to comedy where the phone now does read just read the man. I closed a week a pedia page here jesse synopsis. Let's see a man's new cell phone turns into a technological nightmare when the artificial intelligence program becomes obsessed with him starts talking shit to his boss falls like kinda like falls for the guy like but also giving him like critiques looks fat looks like shit alexandra ships in this ron funchess kid cutty. Michael pena rose byrne adam devine in the lead role. This looks abysmal scene scene of michael painter. There are like some sort of makeshift buzzfeed and they're making. They're making break the internet jokes. You can't be making break. The internet journal nineteen mr moment. I mean that just does simply does not play play anymore. I mean i don't know man. I don't want to get fired from the company for saying this but i've just i've never been a pig adam. Devine guy he worked for dave need wedding dates. We're so so far past that our work here and then we came out. I just don't know what what stands in what does i wasn't workaholics guy to ask that yeah yeah. He really didn't do it. I don't know pitch perfect. I don't know i'm not a huge fan so i i kind of agree with you. I don't know if i'm in on this on this. I do like the sort of cast members volvo chance dance. What's that lula's remember remembered sucked pizza one the pizza on yeah yeah. I remember nine shop. Yes sir pizza shop. Let's go that show <hes> yeah. I don't know i like the cast. It's just the trailer shit. I'm out. I adam devine. I liked workaholics. I think even kind of i didn't hate that net afflicts movie. That was really stupid. What was what was that something like that yeah and then he's in the righteous gemstones of course but it's not him. It's not this cast. I i just don't like the whole <hes> falling in love with your a. I. comedy because the that's they made that work in a drama. They made that work with her. That's that's way more interesting than a kiss this. This reminds me like a like the jokes that are going to be made in this movie you probably of like boomer facebook jokes facebook posts like <hes> you know whenever i asked syria to give me directions directions she she doesn't want to because i'm such a bad driver and it's a picture of the minions and think about how dated this movie will be in like a year or two or three years. Yeah i mean they're making fucking break. The internet jokes i. I'm pretty sure trill you made a skit talked about one related to something like this anyway back and we talked about different cinematic universe ironically when we talked about childhood game cinemax universities and we're doing the hide and seek movie today but i feel like we've talked about this before series. Oh no. I thought i thought about how you can't break the internet anymore. Oh no that that is not. It's not possible to break the internet. Now everything stupid has happened. Already needs won't happen parody through the term away also the people doing this movie by the way they directed twenty one and over bad moms and a. bad mom's christmas writers on chicken. Little wedding crashers not bad for christmas ghosts of girlfriends past the hangover. They're actually nominated for best original screenplay hangover part to change up so scott more. John lucas two more things here here it chandler to what are you guys. Are you guys bad mom's guys because i am a bad guy. Memo's crispus sucked no no just bad moms yeah. What about the extended bad <hes> franchise a. bad mom's versus bad teacher versus bad santa where would wrangle bats because i would probably have to go bad santa bad teacher bad mom's even though i love the bad mom bad mom bad santa for me is one of the greatest comedies ever. Oh yeah bagger <unk>. Oh ooh lord of the universe thought pay attention was really good too. I i liked that. I liked justin. Timberlake's like pathetic little character so bad. Grandpa was the johnny knoxville one dirty grandpa. Yes zero dirty deniro with zeca zoey deutch dirty grandpa was yeah and in bad grandpa was the one where he plays which actually wasn't bad bagger with not terrible for it was the jackass movies what they are. They're they're good. Now has moved also jackass three fucking fantastic. I think jackass three d was the first rated r. movie that i saw in the theater with like my mom my mom through my throat dildos at you in that movie. I don't remember it was them doing the toilet. Porta potty type thing i think right with eight catapulted a porta potty up and down record. That's the one that actually that one in i saw that when i was at penn state and state college and this one theater there were electronic three d glasses they like turned on a battery and they if they flicker they would make your eyes like kind of hurt and someone in front of screamed in the middle of the movie and it was because there is like a dilated and we were like oh shit would happen like on my glasses twenty ten hours to get jackass to all other great mindless entertainment. There's nothing wrong with it. However action point one of the most movies stunk the death kroll roll or whatever hidden shit. It's trying to replicate the magic you can't do it. The jackass is a product of the time. Remember wild boys chris pontius into <hes> stevo boys. I like more than even jackass. I didn't like as much as i gotta have the whole gang there. I felt like all the jackass derivatives were weren't as good as jackass while boys and then bam our jara's. We have a beaver dam almo said obama fuck factory uh-huh shit show what the fuck factory. I like people bam booking drawbridge around the house. I know some people didn't like it. Though i well the wild boys interesting uh-huh sticks out in my head need a really cool just incher with shows like the greenwich clips of them and their trainer with animals and shit and then the globe while boys middle school me it was like this is the coolest shit i've ever ever seen a mind tireless. Oh yeah oh for sure. That's why people have banned. It was just people acting a fool and then like eastern pennsylvania. Go into your guidance counselor. You're like a a mist mister smith. I wanna be a wild boy. I don't care what it takes to do. A you know if stevo wants to put clothes pins so my scrotum and attach heels to it. I'm i'm fine fuck game. I'm a wild boy. I think it was like westchester p._a. By the way speaking of <music> action park did you know that action point whatever it's based on a real theme park yeah i did know that i i the theme documentaries you watch on youtube fucked up late so real thing that wasn't it could have been good but it was so bad. I'm not gonna say it could have been good but it could have been decent better. They had like an upside down water slide. When people hit the top they there wasn't enough force. The throne through through just crashed down top point. It was fucked up. People died at that park. I bet that's that's one of those things. That did the document the true life. Life is way more interesting than the fictional dramatic of it. <hes> just just give me the documentary yeah exactly gritty documentary like that better in chapter. Two reviews out movie comes out reviewed it next week. I think answers reviewing it. It started out at eighty five percent around tomatoes down to seventy. One fifty nine on metacritic still very excited to see this movie chapter. Two proves bigger doesn't always mean scarier for horse equals but a fine cast unfaithful to the source material. Keep this follow up of flow. I don't know i kind of like the closing coming of age story. That's how i view. Maybe that's wrong. Maybe i made the wrong way to view it but i'm excited to see we're going to be seeing it today. This comes out or whenever this we're seeing thursday of dave release in an i max i like these reviews aren't like deterring me all that much though it is long that's the one thing people are like. It's a little long. It drags at two forty something <hes> <hes>. Where does this place do you with a movie that you've frequently said you don't care about now care about. I care about this movie part of me. I wonder how scary they're trying to bake it. I i it's hard to get as scary is the i it was. It was pretty frightening <hes> but it it seems like you'd think with like kid actors and just based off of fears in how much fear plays into childhood you just wonder if just by virtue them being adults and us already seeing you'll full views of the clown the clown makeup which you know standard horror or movies can keep those obscured until the last twenty five percent of the movie just it it all automatically loses how the the ceiling of how it was scary. It could possibly be that being said like i don't like. I don't have much expectation for out scary. This is i'm. I'm just more interested in the characters now that they're an adult so what are they gonna do in dairy <hes> find out i mean that the pardon the trailer and the houses with the mirrors if that's the kids like that's more scarier right like that's you're. You're probably yeah i think so. I don't know i i. I did see the first and dishes like i i love. I should say what i really enjoy the original part one part two for sure and do you guys like scars guards. <hes> portrayal of the clown points very good at some points a little i do. I think the original i think tim carey wants scarier so much scarier. I couldn't agree more because it's like shoddy. It's like the dollar store version of the new one one but betting that's what makes it scarier. It's just like i always liken how scary it is to when i would go to blockbuster as a kid and i would walk past a little bit. I like horror movies. I would walk past the it and i'd be like that sucks. That's horrifying. I hate clowns. It's like that always scared me. This clown is is creepiest creepiest faulk and like they did a great job with it but something about that clown scarier clown it is i. I really think so. The gyroscopic stable clown dance was the scariest part of the bill skarsgard <hes> iterative whenever you want to call it <hes> i think i wasn't as high on the first movie movie as they were so not still not as excited especially because there are just a little bit middling. I would say <hes>. I don't think mistakes opening day. I'm gonna see this in a couple of after probably not a non rush to see this with everybody else. I'd love to hear tim curry. Do his lines are home alone. Two atom like going some of your stolen credit card. I love of that as pennywise and i really i really like it and as you know the second one was not very good at what's the worst part of the second one for you. I mean louis spider gotta be. Maybe they're spiders really bad. Maybe i don't know the fortune cookies exploding. There's whether it it is whether it is it or another movie. Exploding fortune cookies always going to be pretty bad. I was hit always always always going to be a spider again. It's the story yeah. We'll find out. I don't know i'm excited. I'm are we going to see the turtle and space because obviously all stephen king's movies are set on a fucking turtle in space uh-huh or at least it is he said this space turtle. I'm a sucker for this is right up. My alley like i'll be there hopefully opening weekend. Well your big sequel guy right. Huge huge sequel guy huge horror movie guy. I was the first movie i was super excited for and i don't know i know it's it's wrong because these movies have nothing to do with the ones that came out. I think it was nineteen ninety ninety but it's still in my head that this is the second one is going to come nowhere near because the first one was so good too because it wasn't even the the clown had made it so good it was i i mean the kids just on the bicycles and stand by me vibes with a stranger things kind of thing it was it was it was good. I really enjoy well. That's trills thing kids some bikes. If you've got kids in a movie that got on bikes gotta gotta have them riding on bikes thing everybody can relate to for the most universal kids thing. Here's another. Did you see the new tomb raider with publicity candor. I didn't i mean angelina jolie. She's just she's my tomb raider sequel to angelina angelina jolie one. She had two of these well whatever the second video game cinematic but it should well. There's gonna be vehicle. The tomb raider the new one coming on twenty twenty one. Let's see if we can there. We reviewed it two years ago last year last year. Maybe i forgot when this movie came. Out is definitely not this year is twenty started twenty eighteen. Yeah i started two thousand eighteen march twenty eighteen. You do anything to do anything you can jack new tomb raider burgers and terrible it just wasn't amazing knock enough to warrant a sequel i would say it was very very very middling in average and i love at least for candor and i think she could make a very good to meet her. Maybe that's something that could work out in the sequel so like it left a zero impression freshen the movies so if they have a chance to make it better. I'm all for it but as it stands. I'm not interested. It needed like a hundred more million dollars on that budget they they didn't i mean or maybe just figure out a better way to make the movie feel more expansive with one hundred million dollars two hundred a billion dollars and maybe it didn't feel epic enough. You know like it just i want. I want i want more tombs being rated to murder want certain hedge giving a high five to god's two minutes. Could you imagine dude. They're like mr pollens during the movie podcast. What can we do to make this. One better spent one hundred million alien more dollars <hes> we should have thought yeah okay just create a complete gold replica of the legends of the hidden temple set had her do it get olmec and there have have gary sinise play omega big if you're actually yea old matt even hide pearson. Here's a guy the guy who voices three three word name. I very i honestly won't bring up top my head right but it's a guy he voiced olmec and legends the hidden temple. Also captain rex in the clone wars and star wars rebels a bunch of voice remember. He's a legend he's in. There's a there's a voice over. I know that voice. It's a documentary we're doing best. Docs now might be on the air bradley yeah and he did taunted ninety seven throats folks last. He space jam space jam beyond anyone's list later. We'll see not me totally make would boss the fucking door like the kool aid man and beat the shit out. Oh can i free space jam on my journey. Yes absolutely the list here so arbitrary and creative. I wanna get into something though trill started the trend a few weeks ago. It's part of i would say the the running gag l._c._d. Hall of fame of howard stern impressions which none of us can do well and you told us tonight that you worked for howard i did. I interned there in two thousand fifteen. I was from three and a half months four months and i was in the stern h._q. So i can't do a great impression our but you know i know what he says i have to like i was part of my job is to listen to tapes of him from like nine hundred ninety two and transcribe driving chip we know what he says to in the most rudimentary way and that we just i'm not saying i mean he definitely his signature thing. It's not a secret that he's he's like you know you. You've done it all right or you. Set it off yeah. You've said it all he said it all but i also feel like like whatever people come in and he's like wow let me get a look at your uh-huh there. She is like that's that's a robin. That's the big robin one there. She loves that yeah. You know howard is just like what are we gonna stay robin. It's <hes> it's more of a an interview show. Then you know the raunchy funhouse show that it was the war went to the radio. We say the same you get another look. None of us can do compression. Would you sound like kermit and you try to look at you like when we try to actually like do an impression of howard stern we just end up sounding like kermit. Inquiry just can't really do it. Can you turn around you know. Let me see your dress. Trillion got one shouli jesus christ. It's an incredibly hard impression is such a unique voice is on the news w w. j._f._k. Like he gets really deep <hes> n._b._c. Did you enter that was sorry troch. Vomit the talent yes. Did he like doing that <hes>. I don't know if i don't i don't know i met him twice. It's like hey how you doin'. Thanks for the picture see later you know <hes> but i i mean i think he liked it because he was in front of an audience that he probably elite never had at one point. You know like that was that was on big. What was i see n._b._c. yeah so it was on n._b._c. and he's like you know talking to me. I haven't even shippers on and shit compared to like that front of like moms and i. It was probably like just way different for sure. Did i know he didn't like how it ended up. Sure probably wieniawski. Let's get tan mom here on the c._b._s. Buca let's see what happens. The minority stake in the company at this point. I don't know if he does so. I went to the closet. Actually gather like go. Uh kobe go get this from the closet. Whatever and i opened up the closet all the boozers in there and they were supposed to be random sex toys and right in the corner was the sicilian beijing collecting dust. It was one of the saddest sights ever. Have you seen the the thing that gives us here now and then we're we're like he has people. Try really uncomfortable things then pregnancy simile simulator liquor alcohol and all that but i want him to do this like bringing the one yeah. Let's give it a shot see what happens. I mean all right. I'll be the only one the right. I just want to see what happens. I've heard i know well. Why do you think i want to try it. The the the one of the best things the best videos out there is when he gets the guy who created the symbian tacoma any interviews him and and he does like a tutorial on how to use it so weird. I mean dude. He is carmen electra on that day yeah he did. I mean that was like one of the first clips of stern ethic i've ever scene. That's crazy to think about that any other stirring questions i earned on the that's that's that's definitely oh yeah definitely a saying gardner. Let me get a look at you alison. No no no. That's been my ars stole. Forget c._b. And her we'll never know fuck hair by the way she suck. You met her at jimmy. No was a piece of shit just a not nice person to sit among not a nice person first of all like not a good person like she got cancelled like picked. It's not even like how come on. She's just making jokes like she got cancelled like. Are you surprised bad. No bad person she just fucking route is shit. Everybody and that is rather rare. Jiemin like people even the grumpiest celeb- who you heard the worst thing about they would still get up in the morning and they come in and they for the most burpee nice. She was one of the top five meanest people to actually walk through the doors at hey nobody cared who she was for as you put on the mask and she's had a chip on their shoulder the rest of the way you hate to see it there'd be we could stern show story swaps. I like to call in for like five minutes at a show and just we'll swapan just just like when end in one time <hes> matt damon made me put splendor and his orange. It's kinda weird. He likes extra sweet tweet. This time like stormy daniels deep on stern show. It was sick manual beat my manual yeah i didn't. I didn't want to say anything to be but after so i was just happens now. Let's get into our movie and that is ready. You're you're not going to be reviewing ready or not today. As we dropped couple of weeks ago <hes> august twenty first just kind of catching up getting around the review and let me just before you get into that. Eh me do a quick quick ahead of what we're going to be reviewing here on a lights camera barstool next week it chapter to pump for that then the goldfinch you're saying it's really good but we'll see after that astern rambo pulse vote on aww coley mcgahn for super size to holy chicken. Is that actually coming out yet you get that. Do you get the joke holy chicken. You can say no no no yeah. It's like holy cow but instead it totally chicken so it's like the reverse psychology is not funny as what it is yeah yeah. He was the guy that metoo himself right he did he acted being cancelled and then he never apologized he sucks any also made supersized new which sucks like super size me now. Why dessert can you go by super size fries mcdonald's right now well. Thanks so his time he could though he he eliminated covered the biggie the grand big fault. That's gone here mad at him. For getting rid of the super size are big montana gone yumbo at burger king also going the the deep sea and double is still alive and well at long john silver's matters through lunch and silvers has lobster rolls nowadays they do apparently have good chicken tenders our not doubt that yeah. It's like people are like yeah. You wouldn't think every time you see a chicken tenders ranking people go. You wouldn't think this which is such a burn at dan going chicken tenders fish places sometimes do because you get that you get that a funnel cake like breading on the chicken. Sometimes it works sometimes. It doesn't if if you think you can make fast food fast food fish at a rate where you're not getting restaurants constantly shut down for like violations. You could probably make almost anything else relatively well so tenders. I'd very much believe we're gonna be doing joker. Jim and i man than zombie to judge rabbit and then ten minutes congressperson willis which ten minutes go with bruce willis pregnant a pair up with excuse me the a fanatic with john travolta which didn't release this week. We're going to review it but he's not. I don't know it was in one movie theater in new york. I saw yeah one showing to take a one shot deal. The travolta fans were out in droves. I mean this is the second one. I just happened to him now with didn't push back but then caught he got. He just got shit on just dumped on everybody got. He got a lot of exposure from though so i think more people ended up seeing god because of how terrible it was than anything. I don't think i think this one's just supposed bad back straight up. I like the promise promise. I mean like cycle fan like soccer. Shit yeah like you ever read like david letterman stalker <hes> oh yeah yeah. It's like super interest. I don't know it's just it's it's crazy. Dave letterman star of the letterman show kevin between two ferns the movie. We like doing that look. We quiz our guest at the end of the pot on late night show. That's like three stalkers. Get arrested a week. I think someone just broke into taylor swift's apartment and took off his shoes was on her bed or something like letterman like ended up like having major compassion i it was a weird like he ended up like heaven. I don't know if he had a relationship with her or anything but i don't don't like felt bad. 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She must now hide from midnight until dawn while her new in laws hunt her down with guns crossbows and other weapons as grace desperately trusted survive the night she soon finds a way to turn the tables on her her not so lovable relatives this spoiler of you by the way it shouldn't get ready to spoilers readier. Now has an eighty seven percent critics around tomatoes which an average of some point to a ten seventy nine percent audience score and then a sixty three on metacritic. It's it's doing. I would say okay compared to its budget six million dollar budget thirty one point nine million dollar box office. <hes> ready or not was distributed by. Do you know do you know a disney disney to fox searchlight pictures meaning. It was distributed by walt disney zinni company. I did not see any of the people from expressing. It is a very bloody dark comedy horror movie. I i quite enjoyed this. I have my issues with it and has some questions i wanna kinda. Threat ear because overall is the most important thing it's creative. It's unique. It's different aren't and it's fresh and i think that's the most important thing and that's why. I think it's something that if you have time they'll see something off you see it or if you don't wanna see i would go see this. It's a good time not really is. It has its issues. We'll get into in a second. I gave it an eighty two out of one hundred. I quite a quite enjoyed this movie and i- horror man it took me my big question question at the end of this review is why does horse seemed to be nailing the most original content right now. Whether it's good or bad is irrelevant to the question. Horror seems to be doing the most host with original ideas and i think i have my theory. We'll get into it. I gave it an eighty two out of one hundred. What about you eddie. I kind of probably the plus range. Now you know you great things on twitter united not at zero to ten right. I also want to give i wanted to import from the movie boys here i i i used to like kind of like the portnoy pizza review standard seven point point seven whatever then i recently changed to letter grades but someone brought to my attention like sometimes you get letter grades that don't that are the same for movies and they shouldn't like it yeah. That's why the the points were essentially our system just points. Yes band it out. I mean i. I like doing this year two hundred because you can differentiate at the top so yeah hit ours w._f._a._n. Bearnaise a._f._c. plus though yeah yeah somewhere in the sixties. I'd say but i don't know <hes> do you. Do you re going around like do you want to go over. Given the thoughts talked yeah yeah so. Did you ever see the show smith smith noah samara weaving was in that and then she played this really annoying chick with an accent and it was she drove me nuts in the shell and i saw it took me a while to warm up tour okay but in the end i thought she was pretty damn good few she was in the leader. I forgot to mention and she was. She was the best part of the movie yeah she was. She was pretty damn good and it was like legitimately like i hated her at the beginning just because if the beginning you know i really needed more aw i don't want to say a rush into it because i do appreciate when it gets into the action semi quick but i need more cult shit at the beginning you know like i needed to see how i wanted them to say like off the top like something. Really you know we didn't get that. We just had the aunts who was in the room at our kobe going spoiler. We're totally spoiler. Okay okay so that was like you know the aunt who is in the room when they were kissing or whatever and then it was just kind of jumped right into the game and the wedding day and i don't know that was <hes> those couple of big conduct i would say i ended up giving today's seventy five out of one hundred. I think that my big complaint with it probably is that <hes> it's sorta has an a action action horror comedy. I guess is the john right and i think that they didn't get their correct blend of horror and comedy like you really need to nail that to make a really good movie aliens a little more on comedy. I don't yeah the comedy doesn't work which is a problem and i don't think they found that proper balance which is where it fails but samara weaving like you were saying killed it. I think the movie really hit stride as it got further in the first half of it was definitely a bit of a drag but overall stylistically cool a little bit scary little bit funny not horrible movie. I agree with the beginning part because i feel it works and you get it and i'm glad they just go right into quick moving ninety five five minutes to taste very well but i i think establishing because they kind of explained the rules of why what happens and what led them into it you know it's basically like signing a deal with the devil essentially <hes> and they have just keep the killers person blah blah blah and you learn it which is great but like a little back story helps not like overly unnecessary baxter make no three hours long a little extended a bit to kind of like set the tone and listen rich. People are fucking weird. Everybody knows that weird shit gimme gimme something weird like let me there were so many things that could have done in that creepy as mentioned that could have been like i believe this this is it and they really didn't do that to kick it off the bat so i i was really disappointed in that. I guess it do monopoly board game families. We got money like this. I don't know any boardgames dynasty families in real life. What did you true. Maybe just maybe this deep money. Maybe you don't know who they are where they are like you know the the the the bradley family the milton bradley dynasty collude dynasty the part the parker brothers and sisters. The parties have a mansion in hollywood hills excellent interesting really would i completely. I totally believe that one hundred percent the party chinese checkers family. It's hyphenated name jenga tower. We are dynasty. I thought it was good. I thought it was seventy five. I it's it's weird because like i i liked the way a the kind of some of the bloodier elements of the movie were offset with like attempts at humor. I don't know if they always kind of <hes>. I don't know if they always hit i i do. I do agree with eddie. I don't think maybe i'm putting words in his mouth but i don't know if they went far enough on like the whole class thing thing. I think they could have just made it a little more clever. In that aspect i mean do you agree or disagree like just in terms of them being big a weirdos tos yeah it was. I liked it. They went a little further with the class thing then like the last purge movie with a convert like like the purge uh-huh man they class warfare. That's the purge. This may talk about class but it was a little more creative. I i can see what you're getting at there. Well i think it's it's like trying in to strike a balance between the purge and this without going over the top. What was that movie that got canceled again then then they can do to the balance the hunt the hunter the hunt yeah i mean that's another one that at assuming from the trailer had a similar message and i think it's a message that resonates right now i mean it certainly provides for like just in the context of the horde genre like <hes> a reason for a boredom with life that may be leads to a general sociopath the that leads into making deals with the devil that leads into murder. I don't know but i i also don't think the movie was intended to be analyzed as hard as i'm trying to analyze it so at face value was <hes> very stylistic very fun to watch very solid performances. <hes> it was nice to see andie macdowell and yes adam brody. I feel i i. I haven't seen adam brody in anything in we sampled yeah all all five minutes like not like not like really really in it but the only movie i can really tell you adam brody's definitely in is mr mrs mr mrs smith and he's not even like the main role net by any else no but the remember him being mr mrs smith but i thought this one was good. I think it's really impressive what they did with it given the budget. They had <hes> that being said. There's definitely going to be a sequel. Just keep this going but this one is a movie is fine. It's good seventy. Five thousand not blown house. Movie was the thing i thought this blunt house vibes renault up and down. Oh oh my god and so that kinda gets into my question is are people are people starting to rip off the blame somehow spy but a little bit you think formula yeah it would make sense. I mean like it's an easy formula. I don't know if it's so easy and execution but also so the blunt house vibe it can be so wide in terms of definition because so many other movies covers so many grounds but just in terms of would just say in general enroll. The digital vibe is a low budget horror movie with some sort of light to heavy societal commentary dark humor in violence and i i think this had all of that and it did seem very blunt house but like you gotta wonder now like this. These are the movies to make. Thank going into two this year to say like well. You know marvel's got especially after the summer. That's just happened where it seems like a lot of these big. Movies didn't go over to well unless they were you know marvel at they're just saying well food. Just get these small returns from these tiny little movies if the r. the x. men dark phoenix origins isn't working anymore. You're a whore guyana like you. The blood house movies which are typically you know by <music> explaining like lower budget. Turn a big profit. Maybe not always good and maybe that's what i mean. 'cause you right off the bat. You knew this was going to be decent because it was searchlight and they pump the shit out of it. Yeah i would say like this was another one there. You saw the trailer so many times before he finally saw the movie but i don't know is that like is that what you're gonna do a search they are. They going to turn it into their house. It'd be smart in would be smart. I don't know if they will right because they've even tried to censor a little bit with joe rabbit no like they were saying that this is behind the scenes gene stuff which might be totally untrue entirely but they were rumors that with joe giradi disney was kind of like a let's make sure the tone get a little bit too heavy or like lenny towards language graduating like that so i don't know if we will just for brand integrity but they should i think though like just from seeing this comparing it to what like capela would gioja rabbit th th they had no qualms about releasing this and then you know it wasn't exactly you know p._g. Movie it was pretty pretty gory some parts <hes> <hes> i think joe joe rabbit was more so just about the the the nazi thing for sure yeah yeah and so like you know that that's kind of its own special exception. I can see see them churning out like slasher movies if that's what they can do as long as it doesn't have any like over ties to they don't show up for the movie yeah yeah or like or just stay away from general i i mean i guess what i'm trying to say is like this makes it apparent to me just by virtue of being released through disney but that their issue with censoring movies more so in like i guess the references to historical in a <hes> societal events and not necessarily like pure violence by itself. Do you think that's going to happen like they're obviously to nazi thing it makes sense but overall you think think they could have just said that's. We bought them but like hey we. They do their own thing. You don't him yet. No i agree with you. I mean i think they've disney's released me. Disney's been evolving all the you know that we talked about it. They've waited this. I don't think they released like super violent stuff. They have released movies that have been you know allred movies. I think i think what happened with joe. Rabbit like either that story was i mean okay so either israel which it could have been which i know. It's not a hot take saying that that could really happened and or it was an overblown story planted by disney to kind of shoot out a a flare gun to test reception to or even just kind of say a like okay this movie's releasing but we're not completely on board with it because we're disney or is just a completely made up story to your point. It could be very true. I think i i don't think we talked about that. Honestly just be what happened. That can see them. I can see them saying like something like this comes out then they plant this story and again. We're on their payroll so i don't mean by the hand that feeds yeah. They know they've made this. We get paid on the side but actually we got a call from bob is here. He's like chill out in the fucking. Joker spreads rumors on the rumor block. People are finally starting to figure out there were disney schillt's. That's why fucking trill over. There has got got those disney. Posters broadcasting live from the castle. I do think it's an interesting concept. Though does disney make it. There does like make it their own type but blow mouse things because they are going to kind of reshape that they said they weren't but they definitely cancelled a shitload fox project. So how are they gonna. Do they make those lower budget movies which i would like the do that. At least it's original stuff. This is not only be clear. This is not their idea. This isn't come from the disney brain but the milan movies like this. I'm fine with because it is unique right right now. I like the way the and if you didn't see the movie the story plays out that like they have this deal where you have to kill this person to sacrifice to stay rich right to the continued continued to be like this rich family that they are and if they don't they die like they're they don't. They're not alive anymore which they do test at the end they they kind of captured the the leading senator back and forth she runs away. They captured. She runs away. They captured in the end. They finally got a chance to kill her in the sun goes up and and it's too late and they fucking exploit crazy and explode yeah like i dunno border throughout the whole movie. I was like i was i'd like that. They didn't try to be too funny. I thought like they bordered along. Okay like are there really. Is it really going to happen like what kind of movie is and like. I said it's not a movie made for you to over think it yeah it would free to sit there for ninety minutes and kinda just enjoy and then right at the i._r._s. Saw them explorers ago okay. That's what that's what we got into. It was fine. It was fine like it was it was it was okay. My my biggest issue with the movie i thought was the alex character. The character that mary's some are weavings character grace right yeah. I thought that that was the part of the movie. I didn't love his character seemed a little too like hokey his change of zone chain yeah and like how he wanted to save her then he didn't if i didn't love that like his character really feel his character felt there just to service moving the the story along as opposed to part of the story right like it just felt like he i know he changed members over die and whatnot and i get that i get that like in the end everyone had to die. It wouldn't have fell right had he lived had like she's forgiven him but it just felt such a far departure from him in the beginning when he's going to sabree like this is such an entrenched thing with the family if they know if they don't do it there lives are over like things are going to change forever so that's a pretty big fucking thing to say like no. Oh on saving you change f- way through. I love that character that held back quite a bit for me. There was a little bit of that with a lot of them but since his yeah go ahead i mean that was just kind of like the manufactured twist right. Yeah exactly it is the extent. The twist works in a sense like i get it but i thought it just i it was it just felt kind of inorganic like they had to be done as opposed to it played out naturally also a lot of maids this movie it's just attack on maids aids and they tease to like the back forget what exactly they called. It and i don't want to speak on a line but what was it the the the doors that lead out to the underground whatever you know and and like i think she uses it in the first scene where she was escaping. That never came back into play yet. We're kind of like a big moment with the the actual character the husband or ah yeah at this point husband but i think that we all kind of expected it to be a long play right like a whole tarmac right now clearly. He's doing this some sort of boy. He's against her the entire time and and then i guess i'm almost happy. They didn't do what i expected in the case like he was actually trying to save the entire time until that point but i just think that transition was kind of late. I mean like i kind of stock. It's like what do you call it. It's the transition just being like what am i done darth vader. I thought he was going to be like the guy behind it or something or he's the one that set sent the game exactly it just it didn't feel it's not what i expected and i didn't love how that played out otherwise i mean look. There's it's not perfect act right like it's not a perfect blend of horror comedy but there's enough that makes them work. It's a very fun movie. Things are kind of throw it off a touch. The comedy undercuts the spencer points right because they could. That'd be like super suspenseful. I got an appointment really is but i think sometimes the comedy lines the undercut that and it's not worth it like that pale is worth if you're going to do it make sure that joe has a good payoff off. Did you see the twist coming like which one him so turning on her yeah yeah i'm saying i didn't see coming which i liked but i just yeah like the actual like i like the active not being what i expected. I just don't like their version of it. Yeah i don't know like i don't know why it made me think of get out just because it's a family or whatever but like you know with allison williams characters like you knew that twist was coming <hes> but it was the way it happened that made that so acceptable and cool as a viewer and with this one that i mean and i i don't know like i i wanna compare it to get out because i it just you know it's not but it <hes> you know it. It did its job. This movie was efficient. Okay like that. That's that's the highest praise give to it both in run time and the story it was going to tell and what it set out to do and how much money they spent on it. It was a very efficient movie for all things considered my last nice kind of problem with it too was there was too many characters. There was a lot. There's a lot of names to remember throughout right. They cut it like that like the chubbier brother. <hes> brother-in-law is like you know you know what i mean like. He seemed really funny like he could have had their trailers made. It seem a little bit of a better role but there were so many yep uh-huh name to like <hes>. I don't know there was a drunk <hes> sister sister-in-law than there was the one who is enthralled with the game. She loved it. Happy happy. She was in the family then. There's any mcdonald's doors up the crazy aunt there was so many characters yes. There's a lot to keep up with a lot of fucking mates. The question i came out with it is like what is the perfect blend for a horror comedy like for me like my favorite horror comedy. I think is <hes> what we do in shadows which is actually not tying back to talking about before and like so. I don't know what the perfect eric blended but i think i think what we do in the shadows did it right and they were like ninety ten. <hes> comedy horror and i don't know if that makes perfect but that to me is the best horror comedy movies so well yeah. I mean it's satire synagogue yeah. It depends like i think something like what we do. In the shadows takes it takes a concept like a vampire in makes it less threatening just by virtue of like you know being ino- we know like i don't know how to describe. It makes it funnier because they're all weirdos right like they're. They're all just like petty weirdos or one to describe it. Yes yes exactly like us. Something like this. I think you know like i don't know where the comedy he comes from but like it's it's it's different like 'cause 'cause i think when when whenever you do have something that maybe like alludes back to <hes> societal oh commentary you may have more leeway for humor but it it is hard to answer your question because i don't think there's a perfect balance for dark comedy or comedy in horror movies that can be explained without having a genius or somebody who's very intelligent right. So what would you consider scream or a horror comedy yeah. The blend was like. I don't even know how i would try to quantify in next that also did it very well. We'll scream was i feel. I felt like i said meta like many times like scream was like a it was almost a deconstruction of the genera <hes> which like right now seems seems like something you'd get every other movie but i think in nineteen ninety six or nineteen ninety seven when it came out. It was really clever. I think the blend there came from just that being a fresh a fresh concept to a mainstream audience when that was released a lot funnier than the other ones to pry. I don't know exactly who directed that one but it was a different tone for sure for we actually had so who do you have in from screaming. We had <hes> fucking what's his name <hes> david arquette ca- yeah we had talked about screaming another too but we haven't heard the interview that oh yeah we're not gonna area. We're saving. Did you talk about ready to rumble. Saving for a rainy talked about eight legged freaks. Don't talk about ready to rumble. I don't remember i if we talk about eight legged freaks. I think we mentioned. I'm not sure but it was good. It was an interesting interview with david are correct. What's it like was cramps in that category of horror-com. I would say so. I would say yes. I liked grandpa did you. Did you craft solid. I i hate it cog or you out to be the authority on christmas movies. Since most i feel are senate chicago. I don't think so. I feel like more so teen movies. The john hughes giancana's yes breakfast. I just actually did a dog walk with concert about. Oh yeah just straight down john. He's your big. He'd he'd be like almost everything that one town right. L. lewis told me about it like almost everything stone. Whatever northbrook yeah yeah in that suburb so that's good that's crazy. Janis guy another question. I kind of want to branch off that with horror is about what i mentioned before is that why does seem to be cornering the market on the most original is it because they have that ability that others don't well you can make a movie movie about fucking hide and seek make scare you can make you can make almost anything into horror now. Not everything works but if done right it but like could you make a hide and seek action should movie good. I don't think that tag yeah very original tags. Probably the closest you're going to get to hide didn't seek action comedy. I think the problem is right like horror you. They re. Just don't give a fuck when they're making harmless like we know we're going to get a return on this. No matter what the movies we don't have to spend any more than like ten mm fifteen million dollars but like with any other original constantly. If you're gonna make an original action movie if you're gonna make an original fucking suspense movie you need to worry so much about that financial return and like if if you can't make your money back then you're not gonna get financing you could really put together a shit cast of nobody's with like a very sub tier original concept for horror movie and make your money back east which i think is kind of the difference with that john compared to any other genre and it sorta. Why is a very personal opinion thing but i was found that with horror. It's the super top-heavy genre you were. I think like the top ten percent are really really cerebal like very good movies and then everything else other ninety percent are very bad and i don't think there's a lot of middle ground there except check this being a big exception but i feel a lot of that. Ten percent has been recent. It's there's been a lot of good recent. Move a lot recently for sure i think i i think a lot of it is just this is inherent ability to to do more with the suspension of disbelief like an in the framework of a horribly <hes> and we'll get the giants right yeah like like especially since horror genre has has always been like a wink wink wake the rules of reality. Don't really early apply here. You know just with basic movie lodge logic of like you know people not being able to outrun the killer even though they walk it like one mile an hour or or or <hes> you know people not knowing the killers right behind them despite breathing heavily so i i think like going into a horror movie you kind of have like lower expectations around like the realism that's presented which may be allows for like less of a <hes> less of a critical island lake diving into some of the concepts but ah i don't know like i think some of it too is a function of just. Maybe it's easier to get your idea green lit with six million dollars as or movie like you're saying <hes> yeah i mean that could not even could that probably is it but it is pretty crazy that like for everything people talk about and like i mean you're a sequels guy we are to them. All we gobble it up but people complain about the original stuff and horse kind of putting on the show right now whether it's good or not and that's my my thing if it's original that unique for the most part i'm going to commit and giant pilot shit and it's like stick serenity dad boat movie with matthew. We know that they need a sequel that was moving into a level or like ashfaq but most everything else i'm going to. I'm going to accept with pretty much open arms yes. I think that like you said in your question yes. I think that's it like they they don't have there's not a barrier there that they can't cross because of you know people are afraid that if it's all well it'd be real or not and i don't know it's just i don't know if there's lines up to why they're doing so well or not but i mean true. Crime is fucking exploded. You know people like to kind of be creep down be scared and i think that's also kind of health genre yeah. I do think there's maybe a cultural fascination with just the and death. I mean there's always been in every culture but especially like right now. At this moment like you can't deny that all the all the top podcasts are like <hes> the murder files from john h murder ten fucking marilyn monroe one which by the way there's a true crime category. Get the fuck out of the tv film category podcasts talking up. That's horse shit in the last thing. I'll say about ready or not. It's what i like about. A movie like business movie is maybe they'll make a sequel so they don't make a sequel. I'll probably never think about this movie and that's fine. It's it's okay like if i see it. I'll say i'll enjoy it but you know for what it is. It doesn't require a huge emotional commitment to like you know. It's not something you're going to actively be a fan of. It's it's for right now. At the current moment it's very entertaining one off and <hes> again a time where everything is interconnected connected franchise and look. We're huge hypocrites because we love that shit to like. We'll talk about the mandatory for forty five minutes but it is nice to watch one of these movies. That's just ninety. Ninety minute movie that that is is fun to watch and <hes> is is creepy and some aspects and has good performances in very stylish. I wish and then to also like not like invested in it after you watch it leaving. I think the best thing about a movie that we don't get invested in with movie like this anyways. It's only ninety five minutes. We didn't lose a lot of time with the irish have to wait three hours to fucking three and a half hours to right. If i'm going to go to my timer not you're gonna get us in trouble yeah. It's just the fact the less investment you have to put into a movie. I feel like the better you look at it looking back on it like this. I don't ever think about it again and i don't care because i didn't i'm. I'm not angry about the fact that i lost a bunch of time on it because it didn't it was an hour and a half done. I decided to think i'm gonna like the irishman and i think i'm going to say i like it and then smarty scored says he's going to be around the corner to beat the shit shit out of me for laughing at the time. It's gonna kick in the theater in kid. Jack makes it an interesting point in for me. It's like i think it's good to be invested in in movies these. It's it's good to have. Both it's good to have movies movie franchise. You're invested in. I just for horror. It's easier for me to watch these one offs and we go back to chapter two. It was first announced. Don't care of now care little bit more because it's about to come out but i just feel like as johner these these the way better suited to one us which is ironic because whores probably the single johner that has the most raw number of sequels for franchise is so fucking. That's great wrap up that that's a great point to end because you know. I think we do enjoy it. I think we did enjoy this movie as a little bit. The may not be a great but a big reason why is because it is something different. It's it's something that we don't see often. It's not something connected to anything. They're just a good time not me to my question i have for you guys actually told me to come into question. I'll fuck yeah. Let's go so what i'm thinking. Now is obviously the old school we're talking seventies eighties. Everyone knows michael myers leather face all the classic chucky who from this kind of decade not even this decade is from this era. What is the one whore you you know. Maybe he said annabel that do you think will stick back. We'll be like the kids look back at you. Know what i'm gonna hold classic almost any though i don't ahmadou oh slender man the movie cerebral but the people will remember slender man that is i mean that is a good question because i don't immediately immediately had the answer to that. I mean you almost wanna say the <hes>. What's the saw a jigsaw. It's probably jigsaw. You know what i think. I think thank you got. It nailed it. That's a that's. That's a great call. The one who i think it should be and i know i was so upset because they botched the sequel like so bad eh but the strangers is my favorite scary movie of all time strangers yes yes the original one with live tyler and i number two was so bad but potato sack guys guys like that could have been like you're going to be the guy who played potato sack do they. Did you so wrong like greg oden. Do it was like fucking got so late at night and i give nightmares was one point trill like this saw was a while ago which is funny because chris rock just wrapped filming on the saw reboot even saw that was is that this air that was two thousand two thousand ten was done. We're almost wrapped up. I can't think of anything from specifically this decade and i know they've had mouton's decade but like you're not gonna trip you saw jigsaw are the two thousand ten at the two thousand one one but isn't that crazy though we just set of how booming genres doing and there's really not a departure from icon's right yeah yeah. It's it's it's like it's decentralized in terms of his. I think like in this really at this girl from the ring maybe or is that still that's still tape. I think tomorrow tomorrow yeah okay so maybe but but i think it's a good point in just like the the it could be could be pennywise with how well it's done but can you even say pennywise for sure because like pennywise is still nineteen eighteen eighties property <hes> but it feels like it feels like now horrors decentralized in terms of you. We know maybe being more about like concepts than characters like i think is something like get out where i would. I would say the <hes> you know the the hypnosis scene. Was you know that's pretty iconic terms of that movie but that's not necessarily a character. People can say like you know that that's a great horse slasher. There's no villain. There's no killer versus. That's a good point. It's like yeah like a couple of the cup of tea era for like like that's yet want to give a jury or a sound like music. In the thing is they are or even something like <hes> the <hes> gosh us right like the was the tethers tethered. I mean they they had a pretty iconic nick. Look in in design but still you gotta wonder if we'll stand the test of time or not. I think i i do think annabel. Will i mean obviously the n._f._l.'s probably up here for twenty ten. Yeah yeah kids will not us but you know kids. That's something you know if there's one in the room like get out. Get that out what walk tall dolls creek now chucky and that's a good point because when you say like the audience is different like like kids are probably i'm not watching get out and <hes> and <hes> us in and saying like these are the these are the horror movies. We like like it is. It is a very like you know a p._g. Thirteen go with your friends when you're thirteen to watch these creepy s movies and we're shocked whenever these antebellum movies make shit ton of money because that's the audience so you're probably right in that. It's not even that jordan peele universe. It's it's in these flake patrick wilson eighteenth movie in the series things and it's just saluted with the amount of moves to make after that kinda stink especially if the animal universe lopes not a hater of the none of us theater religion the last antebellum either does ample comes home not bad not as bad as i thought would be great yeah. I just thought they missed like they mashed like every it was kind of like everything yes exactly or universe and we we're big patrick wilson guys here biggest patrick olsen pod there is. I don't know how that it happened but we've become just happened. I gave it an eighty two audience of seventy eight sixty nine seventy sixty nine okay that trill can sandjak seventy-five each. That's ready or not go. Check it out. Though i think definitely fun movie definitely go check it out. It's something different and unique not a reboot not a sequel not part of an extended universe. Maybe it'll get a sequel. I dunno but that's not something that you're going to think about when you're watching. It's got a pretty hard ending a pretty funny ending. Actually <hes> lynn laws thing <hes> so that's that's right. You're not <hes> before we get into concessions trill. Do you have did you see what we tweet it out of the pod. No just look it up and then when you laugh. I hope you laugh. We'll know you saw it eddie. You have hill interrupted for the laugh in a second. You have a concessions gripe. I've a big a a big gripe listen. This might have been gone over by you guys so i apologize but it is unacceptable for movie goers is he about the he saw he saw that he's looking for. He's doing he's. He saw photoshop the pictures you back among getting interviewed by our so my my big a gripe is an no moviegoer should have to deal with these fucking concession stands where the popcorn's already premade. I agree yep yep. Have you talked about that. It is insane that they want you to pay that mock. You should get a fresh popcorn. Every time i agree and that's become a thing only recently to speed up and and it's sitting under the fucking like lamps yes fast food places. Don't even use the fucking lamps anymore yes so i feel like the angry like dad or the angry. Whatever but i'm i'm always okay. Can i please get a freshman the freshman tomorrow come on. You're gonna pay fifteen dollars for popcorn. That's still like fucking crazy especially when i know it doesn't cost or anything like the employees whatever they gotta make good or bad. If you ask nicely shouldn't be a bit like a big deal but i have a huge gripe with movies trying to do that. No oh i'm bare hungry. I'm i'm all in your pretzel bites guy yeah. You don't like the pretzel bites. I mean if i'm i mean i'm the biggest popcorn i i go to the movies to get popcorn and watch something at home. Yeah i do but it's sometimes do you notice you get bad popcorn. Sometimes no never a._m._c. and i love a._m._c.'s popcorn. Okay that is bad when when you go to a different theater and it's got different tasting popcorn than your regal's tastes different than a._m._c.'s throws me off. What's your butter salt ratio. I don't do butter none. You used to which is funny because we used to say we butter and don't butter ruins. We still do on our graphics online but europe butter guirec nj varies like if i'm the move gotta be in the mood to do butter otherwise usually don't mostly because of my clean hands guy and like i just don't like again the grease in the hands of napkins vote okay i used happy and then i was like this is like it's just too much butter and i was willing way too much people. Do the straw trick. Do you like to start your i don't. I don't think it doesn't necessarily certainly it's bullshit. You're crushing half the popcorn of the bag to yeah. I don't like and i there's something about to stand there like hold on up the line with the straw fucking sucked into into that to the butter dispenser. I guess them not a fan of them. Got some. They're not a sponsor they should they got some good snacks taco things now they've got these mac and cheese bites now pretty good and their chicken tenders to kendrick adam with god those are so worth it was worth. It was like a twenty minute. Wait so worth it. They were absolutely delicious hide and seek kind of sport right count it right sure yeah it is so so we're gonna do at least favorite sports. We're talking about most overrated but it just ended up being list of least favorite football's back this week. This is like defacto football week this. This is gonna be releasing on thursday. Eddie bears good luck opening the n._f._l. Season hunter n._f._l. Season ken jackson with the chargers. I'm very happy with the browns and trail lost andrew luck so we're super bowl so jacoby perset. He's he's. He's just as good okay talk there. I talked myself into kelly. <hes> i mean i think i think he's very close to andrew luck in terms of ability and he's the backup so the sky's the disguise the limit for this team. Did you see that story. Were apparently somebody tried to buy the colts for like three point two billion dollars in said no that's crazy. I'll just i'll just just sell it and then buy season tickets sold by another team point two billion dollars you could you could definitely you could definitely get the jaguars from from from con right like billy man. Well shame console the you you would. What are you going to. What are you gonna do all right here. We go top five least favorite sports movies. This might cause a little ruckus listen here. Why not maybe some arguing eddie. We're gonna let you go first on an ken jack and then myself then children the audience so just number five for now top five number five least favorite sports movie. I think you guys like this one just from a previous ranking i saw or like you know your film review but i i didn't like crazy to okay five worries for at least favourite not that upset with it. Wow that's like respect. Hey respect your opinion. I didn't they force kind of the the girlfriend like proposal scene and like i i just i understand like the kind of need that angle in there but i just really didn't like that. <hes> the soundtrack just took such a hit for me like i did you like the soundtrack. The hail mary in the first one was like like that gami. I mean the first ones fucking yeah and then the training seen you gotta have a good training seen in the desert nerves. Ona's just didn't do a former c. I don't necessarily agree with you there but i do think there was a week or training seen in the first one and most of that's because they split it into the two training scenes whereas like halfway halfway in the first fight second fight that i personally agree with you on a love creed one i i i. I liked what i like a good out there pick. I like good out there. Pick okay ken jack number five least favorite sports movie <hes> so my number five least favorite sports movies the blindside. I just never understood the hype behind the blindside agree i just i it's just one of those things. Were going going into it. I definitely saw probably like three or four years after came out. Everyone's like this is one of the best movies ever. You gotta see it. It's so so good and i was just like not just under one but actively just did not like it and it was very unenjoyable to me. It's not a fan at all. <hes> sandra bullock fan either so you're not a sandra bullock. I'm sandra andropov. I like sandra bullock. The human amount of noted sandra bullock formats person yeah. I just you know what the blindside was not as good as people it was but i i like the blindside. I found it to be charming. I think i'm probably shouldn't be on this list but i think the fact that i was so like insanely underwhelmed underwhelmed with it based off the height definitely hit hard for me so i'm probably fairly right now but still i just liked how the fictional michael or or did not know how to like walk at the start of it like literally got into football field and just didn't even know how to put his hands up to block walk that was yeah. She plays good though i know you don't like your but again i it's one of the things is just not a bullet person in most season good in some stuff. I actually enjoyed her gravity quite a bit okay to to well liked movies off the top. I like this might not so much number. Five live john goodman. The babe jungle been plays babe ruth. It's it's honestly the fucking swing the swing and i know it looks like babe ruth swing. I just can't get over john goodman as babe ruth. It bothers me so much so much and in here you have up to that point when that movie is released and this this list is very special for me because i like to feel eddie. How old are you twenty eight. Okay you guys. I'm six years age after twenty six years old and you got a little older and kim check <hes> i corrupt when all these shitty sports movies being released like these these were right when i was like five years old in here movie about babe ruth that point the legend the greatest greatest baseball player ever lived it was borey stinky piece of shit it exactly and they babe bruce was an asshole. He probably wasn't asshole. You'll have to make him an asshole in the movie. I'm a kid. I don't want to see that the best moments really the sandlot not on my list by the way okay g oh boy yeah. I'm sure i'm very happy back me up on the babe. It's on my list so hell yeah all right okay. What's your number five my number five. There's any given sunday. I remember we had a reality on tony. Reality does not like this movie. That's right yeah. He does not eating pacino speech stinks. I just hope for the the people liking this movie. They've they've made me resent it. I don't like much about this movie. It is <hes> it is not my cup of tea. The uniforms are ridiculous. The football sucks and everything's just over the top which i think was kind of the point of it. The the only good part about it is the ending where he <hes> he realistically says he's switching teams and he's taking his quarterback with this. I'm okay with the speech like this doesn't bother me but i would. I wouldn't put on my lease ever. If if i had an overrated it would have been this would have been my overrated list. I just can't i can't stand this movie. I'm sorry again. This is my opinion. I take i'm not telling you. This is a bad sports movie. You you can like these are all fucking takes. I know these are. I mean sorry i apologize. I fucked up hits. A take is when you tell somebody what they should be thinking. Eh opinion is when you admit defeat and say. I don't have the best taste in any way. This is how i feel about audience number. Five good picked true zero like that major league to back to the minors okay major leagues. My favorite sports movies indians fan major league two major league to i don't i don't. I don't recognize this movie uvi. I want nothing to do with this. Movie shouldn't explain who is <hes>. Did they get everybody back. From the first major league major league shoe who i believe actually no majorly to is not back to the minors made his major to anti added. I'm back. The miners were gross. They both stink. I hate both those movies which which was on on your list you just both of them back to the mine either. I didn't put any on which i guess is an oversight just like it. You're right. Oh that's the audience audience yeah. Okay my bed my bed charlie sheen. Dennis hayes bob euchre. David keith was wesley snipes nights in major league to not okay but he's a major league one. I was which is fantastic fantastic yeah. They just didn't come back. <hes> you river river corbin bernsen used to be on the mtv rock and jock games just from being in this movie and being on l._a. Law never hear about corbin bernsen. You don't fade away never here never hear about everyone has that rick dohrn jersey right arising roger dorn jersey he right yeah the big big door networked name of his fans dorn heads eddie number four number four. I'm going to go with the rookie with dennis quaid own pick a good pick that was just piling heap disney. Shit throws pitch passed. A construction speed limit sign. He's like this is a hit dog dog ship. That was the moment that i'm good shit breaks or something so you're like holy shit you through ninety eight thrown gas <hes>. That's a good pick. The rookie also dentistry. It looks nothing like the actual guy by the way no less than he says. Quote is played like myriad of people. He's played like forgetting and bill clinton at one point and like he can play anybody. That's a good pick the rookie number four for eddie kendricks number four at least sports movie i. I wish i saw the paper because i'd probably put it in in your somewhere but i don't want to read it if you haven't seen it. I'm gonna go with ed with our good friends. Boy in low man monkey play baseball movie. <hes> <hes> i in that was jim caviezel. I think was in at some point. I scarcely remember <hes> spat. They try to airbus a year before airbud was was made made in airbus did better knocked out parken edges stunk. It was terrible. No one wants to see him. Play baseball myself included do do we have a chicken and a duck. Aren't we wacky <hes>. Do you guys have trouble with the curve on your list. No no no no but i hate that movie. Why don't you like how it gets to the end where this guy's just a major prospect and he's like throwing the curve her new it punk never would never would've phase. Is that the miners. I think about that one though my number four curveball probably would have figured this out nice school but whatever number four is a steaming steaming pile l. of shit movie. Actually i gotta get my my actual ranking. What i gave this movie. I gave this movie a eight eight out of one hundred <hes> it stars notable actors rob schneider david spade and jon hater and at his bench warmers ooh. I don't like this. I don't have this. They don't know pick movie stanks funny the middle school heater member. Tim meadows only good part in this movie. No i'm twelve part. Has that's like still these and everything yeah. The jif is still around everything that staying power actually know craig kilborn a great part of this movie. He is very but that's only because of its me seeing craig kilborn and tim meadows. That's it this. I hate everything about this movie. This won't lamda all these. I like the dynamite this is lumped in with all these types of movies involving the likes of schneider spayed hater sandler whole crew. This best part about this is that it was definitely just like rob schneider be like hey can. We have a movie where i'm cool yeah yeah. Adam's adam's is like yeah you can be the man in this one on the athletic guy world of this cost thirty three million dollars wild add cost at twenty three million expensive forty two humiliate twenty twenty one million do the line and how you doing they went through twenty-seven chimpanzees one million per trill thrill number four at least favorite sports movie number four is this is actually a bad movie. It's called ladybugs because seeing it is that the guy running dangerfield perfect rodney dangerfield and i forget if it's his son but the his his son or nephew whatever cross dresses is to join and play on a a girl soccer team now what are sent to the group chat is maybe one of the most <hes> epat up movie scenes of all time <hes> do you can watch it on your own time but it's essentially him and rodney dangerfield in a changing room with old ladies watching on getting the improper context as to what is going on in the changing room is is something that <hes> probably should not have been green lit early nineties. He's but you know every it's the wild west back then. So what do i know but this movie sucked ass baddeck. I said this this is squarely in that time when i was a kid where a kids movie came out and is about sports wanted to go see it was bad true as a kid like any sports will be musi musi movie <hes> here. We go number four. This is not shocking to me. I actually thought this was going to be higher rudy. <hes> that's the audience number for rudy. What are your thoughts on that eddie. I love rudy. I mean people we actually had this argument on our pod a couple of weeks ago on redline radio that the chief doesn't think rudy's a sports movie hustle. He just thinks that gets the most preposterous. It's like motivation. Movie was just like something like that can be both. It doesn't need to be one of the other yeah. I agree. It's it's it's a it's a bad take. I agree with you but i i enjoy rudy if you didn't like rudy as a kid and it's like didn't inspire you a little bit like i don't know i it yeah. That's crazy like it's not to take. That's a statement to rile people up someone else in our office nate who came over and told me that the joker is a system role and that anyone could have played. The joker won an oscar. It's really keith ledger and i'm like that's not a take. That's a statement that you're just making to piss people off. I take it's never heard a little. I like i like rudy. Rudy rudy belongs up there with like the greatest sports movie in terms of like quality but for what it is for the cookie cutter sports where it is. I i love it and it's the music the music of these areas tonic doodoo on the list guy clap at the end great matching gift. Yes people's dislike notre. Dame carries over into this movie and part of me wonders if people would dislike it if the team were like a if he played for utah and he was a you've like i think people would feel either way about it. I don't think it's like i. I like rudy. I like rudy lot. Part of the reason i like rudy is because it's the only time i think i've seen my dad cry and <hes> a eh. You know that that was really you know that the movie is spy. Movie is formulated to make <hes> baby boomer men tear up at the end my dad fork lake. What was that movie so so like. I like it for that reason because he liked it. That's i still liked. He's still alive probably still likes folks trill ruediger. That's his last really rudy founded out. Dad was rudy jon favreau heater all right eddie number three favorite sports movie number three no surprise here i would be surprised if it's not anyone else's list including the audience but i have rocky five geico could pick up their listed too bad movie them recounting the son in making him the millo richer whatever this guy and then incre- to perfect i love it and i thought actually the beginning was fine like the promise of him being training someone and it was it was it was okay and i don't know just the streetfight. That's that's all there is to competitor. Bill simmons fuck matters bill simmons. He did a cartoon series beco- needed on page two d._s._p. An an and they were like corny classic bill simmons type jokes and there's one cartoon where he goes to best buy and he buys the rocky box set and he makes them take rocky five out of the box oxypan putting it in the bag classic bill. Take another bunk but y- mikey five. I'm telling you but he always stuck doc rocky five ken jack number three airports movie number. Three's do you want a man. <hes> there's a movie i watched specifically because aaron rodgers tweeted about it so much and i just didn't understand the references he was making this is back when like this is like two thousand eleven twitter or whatever when people would actually follow celebrities to see what they tweet so. I was like oh man artist tweet about this movie john. I'm gonna sue hypes about and it was terrible. It was really really bad. I fucking came barely remember who else was even vivica. Fox is in it for sure and that's is it so i can remember not very good not entertaining to me. Which really do you remember it. Yeah oh yeah remember. It's it's it's a it's a terrible movie. It's sort of the same lines as <hes> ladybugs because he's a guy goes undercover into the w._n._b._a. Dominates the league or whatever and just not very funny. I think the gender bender comedy role it has wheels could be funny. Just not funny in this case i there's another. What's the other one third. Wasn't there a romantic subplot one of his teammates yeah oh yeah there sure was there's a bunch of those. There's she's the man yep then there's double crossed the motorcross movie right and there's like there's the twin basketball moved whoo that's why there's such a basis for sports movies all right number three for me this. This movie is bad this movie. I thought this was critically. He more pain than it was this. I really disliked this movie. The combination of these two did not work for me whatsoever. One of these guys was kind of at the at the peak of his t._v. Show that's leather heads with george clooney renee zellweger and john krasinski <hes> jonkers is he's done so many better things since this leather heads. I mean old sports in general not into it. This movie was corny. Tacky adding didn't give a fuck about the characters the romantic stuff stunk. It was just like n._a._t._o. Look stupid as hell the they just look dumb as can be and i love the the poster for the movies just jordan with a big black guy next to theirs jim helper the i i did like rene zellweger's transatlantic accent in the as probably the best part of how outlandish your accent was stephen root in this as well and jonathan pryce might be nominated for an oscar budweiser trill number three least favorite sports and movies yeah yeah number three is <hes> little bigly kid this kid his his grandpa owns the minnesota twins why they pick the minnesota twins ownership fantasy movie like don't make it about the twins okay like i mean maybe because they just won the world series blake then they go back to back or maybe three times in the early nineties. I digress career puckett. He <hes> he owns the twins. You think that'd be enough. That'd be enough for like a child to have their power. Wish fantasy fulfilled no. He can't find a magic so he manages the team to is asking for too much. It's a shitty movie. I hate it. That's a good pick though i'm glad you went after a little big league because i didn't have the guts to go after this one because i think people like this one a decent amount right yeah i mean it was a fun movie to watch as a kid. I you know you kind of wished you were him. You know i will say i don't i don't remember much from it. We'll save that going back and like rethinking about it that that was that was such a a mean thing to do to a kid. The kid would would never be able to own a professional sports team and they put that idea my mind fuck me. I'm saving thoughts about kids in in sports smart. I'm saying to me to this is going high. There's a couple of kids movies. There's actually a couple of different. Things you might not no is going. We'll see here's this one. I'm gonna play the song and let me let me tell me if you know what this is from so. Please tell me you're picking picking. This is the audience tape. Oh longest yard adam sandler crazy. I didn't win. This song came out when i was in high school in texas of the fuck ev if you did not have a highlight video <hes> <music> with that song you stunk you were not a good football player and that's just what it came down to longest yard for the audience the adam sandler virtue number three. I it was just that's shocking yeah. It's shocking to be three. I maybe i can see it sneaking in a five or something but i think it is. You're you're wrong. If longest longest yard is a top five sandler movie free right yeah. I doubt agree. I don't like when people sneaking in the top five because it happens. It's a kanye movie. It's true same dumb. Brains cami emme movies and the peon on that movie. Who's a little fucking. We're at the little guys the rally no. It's a random accident. The the butterfinger guy football is it's live. It's like just a little wreck guy. Yeah good cheeseburger ready you like that because of the name eddie i mean yeah he's great. He's great funny <hes> joey diaz in it. I appreciate that <hes> but it's good we're goldberg kevin nash yup kevin big romanowski. Yes oh kevin kevin nash rules. I want to see him in movies. I liked him in magic agic. Mike yeah that's right. What a what a random ass role big old the old tree sequoia of stripper just fucking thick boy. I i am kind of surprised. I think this is maybe one where it has more name recognition than something like babe or whatever else that we had named <unk> and shit so i kind of get it but in a bigger your sense like i do not think this deserves being top-five. We're still time no nowhere close to that really but do you want to roll into your number two yeah. Let's do it. My number two is <unk> airbud golden receiver listen. I'm not buying the worst ones airbud regular airbud fan regular great story bummed you out yeah. I mean he's just not a two sport athlete. I'm just not buying. Let alone like five sport. Athletes drew like i get it. You know be shit out of the warrior or was he on the warriors. Were were the worries whatever whoever they beat and then you know they beat the shit out of the clown it was. I really enjoy airbud one but you know he's not a two sport athlete airbud air bud golden receiver airbud world the pop airbud seven seven seventh inning fetch airbud spikes back air buddies snow snow buddies space buddies santa buddies spooky buddies treasure buddy's super buddies the search for santa claus santa paws to the santa pups and fat buddies. You know forget our our favorite chinese cop movie fep bodies fantastic. I like the the basketball one soccer one with only two ones. I think i liked best was the first one we're world drop. I mean i know oh no connection to that. Then love me some dogs playing soccer everybody classic classic get out of here scrim dog and kid movie yeah i after that like and it was it's great for the pudding industry. Yes huge waves. Yes i wanna vanilla pudding after that the peak of your time and the putting into the air but it was that in and matt billy madison when he check that's never lie. It was always chocolate. Pudding saw buddy going house on those best. Exactly in on vanilla pudding outing can't number two least ever sports movie <hes> my number two least favorite sports movies fever pitch and i'll say this it's it's drew barrymore terry moore and jimmy fallon. I do not find. Jimmy found very good in most of the movies he does. I do think i do like drew barrymore and most movies. Is this movie about the red sox. Yes my yankees fan also yes us and overview. I don't like this movie number. Two least favorite <hes> sports league all time wasn't controversy with jimmy found. He became came a red sock like five days beforehand or something yeah yeah. He's a yankees fan and then. He said he's like i'm a red sox fan. He said something he's the most political answer right. Any talk show host though where they decide like laugh and be like oh. I like all sports like okay jamie do your what do you call choked up. Crocheting choked up literally the cried or something. I think it's a remake movie fever pitch. It was based off a nineteen ninety. Seven british film called fever pitch which is funny when you think about it because it's two different sports but they get away with essentially the same a play on words in the title and <hes> the the fever pitch a british one is about the <hes> think arsenal that makes sense not the red sox anyway. This was direct by the fairly brothers. I guess you're wondering do you like jeff. If you're not on my list but no i i like it. Yeah i get. I get why you don't like the defenders of fever pitch. People love fever and a lot of people boston people. I hate it too. I know yeah most. I think <hes> let's talk about this. He despises the rear admiral. L. hates it <hes>. I don't know the yankee dancing part that was that was a good show and it's still stuck with me yeah that one i get there's moments to take away from it. I agree with this. I just never ver- bought into the chemistry never been in the most potline and just a fan. I think jimmy fallon jimmy fallon is. I should probably talented yes. There's an actor sir. You know movies. I i could see we're coming from. We like to laugh about how much he laughs at literally anyone hey. How are you jimmy he. He's literally crying on the floor. It's bad but then say him then you see him at s._n._l. Forty with justin timberlake and they're singing holy images zest and element was i know but that's where it's a shit like you forget who he is now because he's doing this laughing shit on t._v. Ever good point oh. I thought comment no. I'm laughing. I'm i'm i'm i'm the audience jimmy fallon truly be your joined the compensation mine number two the association is what fucking put it over the edge for me. I hate that they're associated with. This could have been any other fucking team and that's draft day. I cannot stand the stupid. Fucking moved like the forty year old dupin movie angels in the outfield is more believable than the shit that goes down in this movie the stupid trade at the end. We talked to tim simon's. Who's in this movies and veep n._f._l. Teams had to approve the the trades in the movie. Nobody was out to lose the traits and you couldn't draft the boss at the changed fucking script great actors this movie fucking chadwick both in franklin gela kevin costner jennifer garner dennis leary out. I'm not gonna call dennis. Leary great actor sorry dentistry but he was in small soldiers though great fucking movie right movie but this movie was nonsensical. It was stupid it was it was like two tacky. It was too over the top. Everything just looked like cheesy and fake like every music so fake like the football in effect. A browns are associated with it and then it rolled into the giants al dra- it just it was such a an a downhill snowball rolling affective trash for the browns they did have a good start that next went to seven four and then they lost every other game so it just <hes> and i know unpopular barstool because mix tape love draft there. I cannot stand it also be there are team and we just did the barstool so sports a fantasy draft. Your team stinks. I'm sorry to say oh boy kevin coleman with a throwaway. Come on i'll let calling after shang pal trill number two leased average sports movie the bay now know the betas one number one okay but <hes> yeah so this one is <hes> this one's eddie. The lumpy will be yeah so this is. This is another one she. She's the coach and it's just <hes> it's not great. I just i don't i don't like sports movies where things happen like the under the knicks threatens to move the team to saint louis like that like the new york knicks would ever be relocated to saint louis <hes> but <hes> yeah i mean like i'm a big whoopi goldberg van lover on the view but i just <hes> this one not not a great movie love her on the view big fan of the next generation okay true all right. You don't what's great about that. Too is is at a you. Bring up the moving the team. Did you know i brought this up on. <hes> chicks in the office today we guest hosted on there was they bought odenkirk. Kirk wrote a super fans movie. Oh really about the team in a big a bad ownership and they like gonna move the team and like the bills mirsky and shit was getting ready. Ah you know they were holding down the fort for the bears fan so how would that that would love and odin kirk. This was like in the ninety yes and then like i think like wayne's world bombed or some shit you know lauren. Shut it all wrong true but that would have been you know awesome. I i would love that similar to your number two picture of the audience number one yeah. It's ed student. Do the chicken duck right. I don't go to st why do we have a chick and the duck. It could be impression. Any of the environmental was yeah. It's ed ed stinks is ed worse than joey the spinoff of friends. I don't know if i've request and say ever no unseen you. Have you seen joey no yeah i'd i'd never watched joey. I'll tell you what i don't like my namesake hovering around the top two seriously at an eddie. That's that's tough. That is tough. That's tough what your number one though leads favorite sports movie my number one is san lot to me at the same one really yeah i was so it was so when i saw thurman merman is the catcher yeah right. I had high hopes perfect almost gave you. I hope not. I shouldn't say hi ho excited when i saw i was like okay like this could be decent. I mean not really but i wanted to. I wanted it so bad exactly exactly so <hes> it was terrible yeah. It was awful. I think <hes> it's like sound like an institution for like two classic childhood movie and this is one where like this now like roughly when i was in middle school or something like that and i was like oh shit i love this movie like when i was younger and i still cutting whatever but like this is going to be so awesome in good and strong dunk it was so bad was such a fucking letdown. It's one another one where it probably isn't as bad and rich letdown killing a letdown potential for the sandlot two. It's it's classic childhood. Movie thurmond's the greatest characters name ever just ahead hank mark ducasse and i'm bad santa's way up there from twelve commies ever. He retired retired from the bills to the thurman. Merman players would would a bigger like all right number one and here. I turn away to breathe. I reign of i. I've talked about this movie before. I despise this movie headed. I really hate it and it has nothing to do with the team in the movie movie it doesn't i you cannot whatever the kids fucking sports movie fine. Whatever the fact their season was turned turned around by a fucking closer. A relief pitcher is the dumbest fucking thing ever come. It didn't need to be that way. That's what i don't get how how many fucking games how many games did gary busey pitch did he. How many did he have fuck ninety starts. He started every game jeff well. How many games out of first take forty games out of first closer jeff whole team stone the pitching coach. The pitching coach could barely put together a complete sentence chef breath gentle and he's starting pitcher was gary busey. The pitching coach was daniel stern. I love home alone. I walked in stern. Come on he got caught between the door okay but what other movie has the words funky funky butler avenue the same one other. I can't number. That's partially why i hate little big. League is because rookie rookie of the year does little bigly better. John candy the announcer <hes> a little bit different but it's it's still the junky who i disagree. I don't need the kids movie to make a ton of sense. There's angels in the outfield. I'm okay with that. That's it's fine. It did dog shoot hoops k with k with the angels. Oh cathy angels. You could've made why i wanna say jeff. I mean come under hand. It was incredible is is any. Have you seen a single major league pitcher do that to date. I've never seen anyone do that. Since rookie of the year now he'll get tips to daniel stern gave him on the plane lane about all the free food you get and he saves. He put it on paper bag wallah breakfast. Just learn what what do you think chris angels fantasy baseball. The team is called. I am waiting for the punch. You guys deliver an and angels in the okay all right you're up. Let it happen your number ones the babe yeah. I'm i've done. It is <hes> yeah i it's. It's a bad movie. The about the the greatest one of the greatest baseball players of all time definitely many consider him to be the greatest more and more people are saying that they were as the greatest <hes> significantly less been saying this it would get fucking gas by like the worst aaa pitcher in baseball henri rolin gardner could roll the ball swing sixty sprain at it. When you're a kid like i remember my dad was born early forties now and he drew up with mickey mantle and those guys and babe ruth was still legend to him so yeah i heard about babe ruth being a legend and us even more of a legend to be in and he says movies played by like a mid roseanne run john goodman and do just eats hotdogs and smoke cigars informed in theory though john goodman as babe ruth is everything you ever wanted it looks fine and he got the swing downright trail like he did it right. It just didn't look the proper it it either it either needed to be way way cheerier or completely dark and gritty just make it miserable but as a kid i wouldn't have enjoyed would that. This is a bad movie nobody has anybody tried to do movie about babe percents. Maybe babe ruth. Just isn't that interest. I don't know i don't know the answer that no no bill kristol. We'll try to do a whole bu got roger mayors and tiger stadium. Maybe maybe he can give it another shot. I think if they were to make a a babe ruth movie right now i would definitely not rush out to see they pretty much almost any baseball player before nineteen fifty. You could count me out on. I like sixty two roger marris mickey mantle movie yeah yeah our good friend barry pepper yeah they have. They die cobb very make national very. I'd sign up for that yeah. That was kinda interesting. That's a good pick though i actually we've talked about the bay before so actually should have thought about you. Having babies is just swing is i hate saying it's off putting because he did a good job but it just doesn't look right now. It just doesn't look right eddie ken jack trill somebody one of the three of you said the audiences number one. I'm gonna get sandler too. I think a lot of people dislike what your guests rocky five. What your guest i think it's i think it's going to be rocky. Five to fever pitch number. One is fever pitch. I know we have a big northeast based thing. It's a lot of red sox fans for spamming vote rightfully so some of the scenes like them. Singing sweet caroline at the baseball game is just too much for me to believe that was the moment where they lost me right there. I just yeah i'm like no no one would ever do this sucks finch number six for the audience airbud original original heritage assert at number seven like mike. I could see that number eight ed. I mean to me oh number nine kicking kicking and screaming who they number ten summer catch focus summer catch freddie prinz jetty prints yeah somewhere he's he's <hes> he's. He's out to play ball in jessica yu the ranking looking at dot good. It's an eight percent it on rotten <unk> summer catch yeah yeah. That's cool uses the horn baseball player movie. Okay trails it's like did you like never been kissed. Drew barrymore was that was that at the end where like they had the baseball game for her to show up yeah the mountain yeah i was. I was looking at some lists like on the internet list <hes> well. It'd be what basketball football that's horse shit and fuck. No that's definitely anywhere close. No i slap shot to start to his major league back to the minors. The next karate kid caddyshack defect is just what was the closest for you guys to make it on your list. Did you have one major league major league to me and they believe the miners definitely up. I don't think there was any. I left off rows shit. This is really close. Most of mine was pretty concrete. The new bad news bears the fucking <hes> what's after at that guy's name but yeah that one is. Who's your caddy m._p._p. Most valuable primate date another fucking sports movie movie around that d. three. I'm a huge muddy ducks guy. I would not put the my least favorite but like mighty ducks for me like ducks fly together. All that shit like i just doesn't. I never liked those but that wouldn't put them anywhere near my top. Who's pick <hes> takes the most heat here. You got me with the ear pro august shredded for earlier. I think any given sunday is pretty pretty controversial veto yes. It definitely is but because i've rookie of the year number one and people do not like my rookie year. Take excuse me opinion to take fuck it. I'm gonna wind safe to take another one that i did want to put on there but i didn't as golf harto. The legend of bagger fan is not very good and i like them. That's when i think i've watched too late. Oh and i also it's not my least favorite but i don't like as much as many people tin cup chose like we don't look at each other. We mentioned that i used to love it ships passing in the night yeah dude that it's a perfect ad movie that is roy cut man. His name was z. We call him. There's <hes> there's a lot from like the disney channel things they have some good sportsmanlike brink shout at the brain of the irish the one i'm glad yeah look the irish motocross double-teamed or whatever the one. I'm glad nobody put on their list. The legendary movie starring tony danza the garbage picking field goal kicking philadelphia phenomenon. Nobody put that on there yep couldn't do it. Can't we wanted to count horse racing. Put everyone of them in here but we're horse warhorse secretary like i would put everyone of them sea. You see biscuit another book that i read in school. You think involving horse racing. He's not a fan. I always pretend i always read novelization of movies ever really got through got game. Plan was is that the one with iraq gridiron gang with the big the big green with <hes>. What's his name them. Yeah yeah yeah with. What's his name five long pod good pot. Thanks for coming on. We were pumped to have you. Thanks eddie. Get i mean if you don't fall out of your guy. Eddie pumps out louis ratings are scores. If you check it out eddie barstool. I do a daily fifteen minute podcast chicago dog walk. I'll do sports podcasts redline radio. I think we're joining you tomorrow. Yeah you're you guys are coming on. It's probably gonna air on friday or it's going to air sometime next week. We're just gonna talk about some of these twenty movies love. It can be blessed. <hes> see i'd make sure the dow we'll put the links in there. Katie will be without those dogs great. Thank you great little snippets. You're just love <hes> next sunday. We're going to be reviewing rat race. Yeah where we rat. Raises are nostalgia of the etiquettes on hulu and amazon prime on the week after that <hes> it chapter two so watch rat race in chapter two for ken jack and trill and our guest eddie. I'm jeff. We'll talk to you on sunday had a good week at the box. Aw yeah aw seventy is an take me off the job in the dark side <music>. Hello uh-huh <music> yeah.

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Beloved with Jourdain Searles

Blank Check with Griffin & David

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Beloved with Jourdain Searles

"Right right and you don't. What was that show with The podcast has life of its own past the past. The word is past good. POSTER STRIKING POSTER ALL STAR. She's like yes doing her looking out. Ghosts depots address and didn't clovers beard. It is so good in this movie. That's pretty good. I was sad when he bummer. It's kind of the great tragedy Phil Right but I but I remember as a as a child when this movie came out there was like a bookstore on the same block as my school that had the poster for months ons leading up to when it came out and probably months after it had left theaters. Well there's two posters there's sort of spooky teary one where she's like yes Just the ghost and that just kind of looks like a horror film in terms of the design of those looks like harmful yes just straightforward right. And then there's the one that I can't find but that is like my I tunes are yes. That's just like oprah touching hugging. Yes that seems like a movie with zero coasts. Senate mostly just a movie about Nice people hugging right you know is there they. They learned to love each other or whatever that was the poster walked by Hey yeah this one the embraces the one that I always walked by and the thing I realized watching this movie that is one of my absolute favorite looks. Go ahead person who still has color in their hair. But they're beard is great. Sure Right Rick Color on top your Chris Pie in seared appeared finds Danny Glover. And this when Colbert had his beard face you know you're right. I love that. Look what's that phenomenon. I don't no no. There's no down here I I don't know but it's almost like a facial hombre natural occurrence you know but I like that that shifting tones hones between the top and the bottom of the head. It's pretty sexy I say look I think Danny Glover is a is a sexy guy. Yup Yeah I think he's a really handsome guy. He's so charming in this movie he is. He's in charming mode he is. I mean that's part like a big partisan his. Aw shucks kind of murdering his sort of got he's a gentle guy. There's something very good when he scary too and also I mean very often. He's annoyed grumpy grumpy. It is a crazy thing. Where like he was like thirty seven in lethal weapon? Yeah and he's too old for this shit right. He was so so hot in that movie. I tend to be so hot. 'cause I only watched it for the first time like last year old ugly man and he's just like in the TUB and I'm I'm just like God damn looking great. Yeah I mean look. That's another thing about Dan. Glover one of her best bathtub actors. He's got a good tub seen in this seeing abyss but it is it speaks to that thing like your your cultural understanding the reputation of lethal weapon is. He's too old for this shit and then you watch the movie and he is a pretty in his prime crime. Thirty seven year old man who they put a little gray on it so he looks like a fucking snack physical peak. Yeah now if yeah. Is he actually younger than they'll give somebody can't be. I think they were like no. He's ten years older than Mel Gibson. Okay so he's he was older right you as you said I'm older. Yes Shit. Yeah no because that in color purple or to breakouts correct and both of them. He was playing older older than he was. One of those guys where it feels like. You're like shouldn't dating glover of died twenty years ago and then you're like no he's actually only like seventy something. Yeah I think he seventy-three yeah he's got a good ten to fifteen years left in him as like grizzled character actor. GRANDPA like you can just keep going to of that. Well loved him and sorry to bother you. Sorry about that loved him. In what's it called the mandate gun like anytime he pops up happy to see him. My my favorite on the lights. Oh Yeah I forgot and then I mean all right good last black. San Francisco's in that he stuff. Yeah Yeah and then we're Griffin. I mean we don't have to but we are supposed to go to the next level tonight. This is a great point it the next level by the time this episode comes out episode will come out. I think in February. We'll have already won best picture but David and I have been cordially invited to exterior next to take take it to the next level of Jumanji. It's ham and it's Danny Devito. Yeah Danny's Kevin. You're Danny's playing Danny Glover which in the trailers seems to be a very good impression right. He's worked on the rock playing Dana veto which seems to be from the trailer a very non existent. What what are you talking about? He's doing like a standard like Improv. Show version of a New York accent. Right what are you talking about. Come on That is all true. We're going to go to the next level you can't take maybe he's in for five minutes maybe he's in it for two and a half hours we don't know yeah he was also in the dead. Don't die I believe Caleb Landry Jones was his art is the hardware store and I have not seen that. It's it's it's it's it's not that great but then maybe in five years it'll be like what are you talking about. Slept on that matter is the greatest cast of Zombie. Comedy ever disassembled is was that the one of the sweatiest tag lines of all time from what I remember the movie which is already mostly sort of vanish He owns a hardware store. Okay and he gets locked in it with Caleb Landry Joan and there's like hijinks they have some hijinks etchings. They're they're warding off zombies at the idea. Yeah Caleb Landry Jones. That's the scary looking white man. The true like Raith Lake. If there was like a white beloved he could play like where he just looks like a ghost. Visiting I walked past him. He is very intense is I walked past him on the street Seville a couple months ago. Okay and he was scary looking like maybe he turns it on for the camera but he we had a menacing energy. I'm sure he's a very nice man. Yeah he was much bigger than I thought he would be okay Holler and kind of built like fairly broad broad-shouldered forget he was havoc banshee remembered that he was an exponentially and the X. men but it was one of those things where I like before I recognize that it was him I I was like Whoa. Who is this? Is this Guy GonNa knife me and then it was none other than Caleb laundry back under. Joe Yeah Anyway. He's not in beloved he's he's not in bars. Although a lot of people are in beloved lot of people like you're watching beloved and you're like Oh this person to a lot of people up yes poppins Coppee Hall Bentley for five seconds. I thought about that a lot like this must have been one of his first films whereas Mentally Right. Let's find out his. It's his first credit that you can click on wikipedia. He just two short films. That's so yes I feel the bounce of an American beauty the next year. Do you wes. It's regime on the phone. I got greatness. We got an offer. Jonathan Demme Directing Tony Morrison Book. DOC producing starring Oprah. All my God incredible. What's your role? It's wordless sure. You only appear in flashbacks doing the most horrific ariffin things of yes. Yes in a movie filled with memories of horror. Yeah but especially because it's like wordless. It must have been so bazaar. Wait so he's one. Is he one of the guys that like takes her breast milk. Okay the schoolteacher's nephews uh-huh yes and then there's like one shot of his face just kind of staring after she kills her baby. Yes that's about it and that was when I was like that's definitely West Bentley yes west. Bend Lee's onscreen energy anytime he's interstellar. Whatever you're like that looks like Wes Bentley? Lake Right Hunger Games impossible right. He's a good little rebound round. You guys so I mean it was good emission possible. I liked mission impossible. He was impeached. Dragon rates yeah all right credited me saluting wes Bentley. He's dragging directed directed by David Lowery. Who will never come on again? Show US never appear on the show again anyway on this show he was back. Never never never okay. The show is definitely going back. He was on the show And this show of course is blank. Check with riffing and David. It's a podcast. Bell philosophies directors massive success early on in their careers and are giving us serious blank checks. Make whatever crazy passion products they want and sometimes those checks clear and sometimes sometimes they bounce bb and sometimes and even more powerful person who isn't a director hands over there check to you sure because this is very much a blank cheque movie and it is very much Jonathan Demme movie but it is much more of an oprah blank check than it is demi blank check. Yes certainly yeah I guess I would say that shore throwing her her you know this was. This was her baby. This was the thing that she she bought the rights to the script in Nineteen eighty-seven the book to make the script and won the Pulitzer Right. Great what are we published early. Yeah and it took like eleven years years to get it done and and this was her first movie she had done since the color purple on screen. Is that true. I yet is that your. I'm almost certain. Yeah Yeah because I feel that was the big reputation was like Oh my God. It's such a big deal Oprah's making a movie again yes she had been in a couple of TV movies. Oh I'm sorry she's also in one thousand nine hundred six's native son in a very small role. Yes nine hundred. Eighty sixes fixes native son also. She did Yeah this like television miniseries of a book which I wrote a review on just this year and cannot remember yeah. There are no children here from that time from the eighty s or the women of brewster plays. Oh yeah here yes rooster just replace. Yes and there was a brewster place. TV show that reassure live in the nineties played a character she was she playing an old lady in that one. That's an old lady. She loves plan an old woman. She's very good at it. She I feel like she is one of the more naturalistic listrik playing an old person actors. Yeah dreer we're talking about this. She's a good actor. I I think that she's great. I also I've been watching a lot out of been doing this piece on the decade and Black Film which I'm saying even though hopefully it'll be published by the time this is out and I watched the show I was watching the Butler and then I watch is this and I was just like she's hot and both of these movies. That's pretty hot in the Butler run. Yeah that's that's sort of a you touch it. Oh yeah but unlike in the scene where she's meeting Paul d again played by Danny Glover and shows up on in her yard and she's barefoot and they're looking at each other as hot seat that's true and it is fun. Yeah because we don't like Oprah Oprah on television very maternal figure people would come on and sort of talk to her about their feelings relationships that hardship right. Yeah she's the person that let Ellen comes out to. Yes yes she was. Ellen's therapist Alan episode. One could also argue. She is the one who like annoying. GOING TO ELLEN. The New King Daytime Right Ellen sort of big lake which. I don't know if that was a good thing but you know what happened but there it was I look I never watched the Ellen show obvious I mean I I don't watch I don't have cable. TV Anyway. I guess I could watch it if I really but I will occasionally find myself watching a clip from the and she's just she's very salty like she's got a real edge to her own Air has you know. There's an unspoken thing that she's got us a salty edge off air to you see chatter on the Internet sometimes. Still got that that. Stand up defense mechanism. I got you before you cut very specific like like product of the eighties. His standup clubs hundred percent. I know she like hangs out with George Bush and says we should all be nice people and people get mad at her and that's a great conversation that we all hang out with torch. It's a thing we do. I mean I love the video with her and I was GonNa say Melanie Griffith Daughter Richard. The Old Lady describe learn. I mean that is one of the better films of twenty nine thousand nine. It's a thrilling exchange right. Hey wonderful I just can't I could not imagine going on somebody shown to being like Oh. You didn't invite me to your party. Look I run into people who didn't invite me to their party. All the time Taylor mentioned it. Will you know you know one hundred percent. The Reason Dakota Johnson did that is because it wasn't just that she didn't trip to the party. It was that she went and hung out with George Bush. Instead of going to the right off triangulate. Second let's look at the day's your say. Yeah as Melanie in Griffith and Don Johnson daughter. She probably just has kind of like what you do energy right where it's like. I can say what I want cal exactly. Yeah I've I've I've been in ship Shit. My whole life lead fifty grade shades of grey trilogy. She loves her. She's grace finished the film to all three of them. I have to say that I'm impressed that anybody managed to get through all three but they they did it got so bored you read any of the read the first one and tried to read the second one the first one the first one is terrible so I feel like it only only goes out from there but fifty shades darker the movie one hundred percent wonderful time in the theater believe that is the second movie right. She's the plot the lease party Eh. It's also the one where there is a chronicles of riddick poster. In the background and that was an amazing time in at the movies like we were all just like audibly. Saying is that critical of Riddick. I felt very close to everyone in the movie. I know you you host a podcast. I do yeah our guest. Dan Turning circles. Sorry we didn't introduce you hosts a podcast called romance that it's a bad bad romances in movies. Yes Wha- what is your view of fifty shades of grey as a phenomenon as a thing especially as a cinematic adaptation. Because I had a very I I only saw the first one very snap opinion a snap judgment and in the last couple of months. I've actually been rethinking. Their place in culture a little bit. I mean the first one is very much like Sam Taylor Johnson. I believe and she didn't really get along with E. L. James and the way that she made the the movie was kind of like she almost made the movie in a way where it's like. She didn't like the book and it was really clear that it was made by somebody who didn't like when they switched directors. Yeah Yeah Yeah so the first one is like kind of like a criticism of the first book. But it's a weird criticism because it still has to move through all of the plot conventions of it it should like it's doesn't really work as a criticism also doesn't really work for the book either. It's really weird but the other two are just like exactly what those books were meant to be. which is just crazy thrillers? Just spanking and helicopter after and also just like just like power just like this fantasy like I love the way that Dakota Johnson gets the last two where she becomes more and more confident put in more and more just like this wealth belongs to she gets so into it must attend my part and then the the third one is specially there's like a woman that's like designing their house. It's an architect designing their house and the woman like talks to Christian and doesn't talk to her they just like treats her like a trophy wife or whatever and then Dakota like pulls to the side and excuse me my name is Mrs Grey back up off my husband and it's like alright married in two or three nothing. I think they get married in three. Apparently they get married at the end of two. Two three begins hunting with their honeymoon. I can't even read or of course isn't all three of those movies. Just looking for the plot looking GIG for the kind of places. Sisters Bay Singer I believe is in the final two plays taker of his Marcia. Marcia gay harden plays the MOM. How very strange performance see I saw the first one and my take away was? I hate this book which is interesting too. That's your explanation of the. I moved because I did not read the book but watching the movie made me hate. The book. Feels like the movie is trying to make you hate the book. Oh yeah no definitely that's why L. James got her phone sneering and the thing. I found fascinating about the movie while not liking. It was that it felt like a filmmaker trying to sort of do a Coppola did with the godfather whether this is junk I want to use this like pop culture phenomenon to like a Trojan horse in a bunch of things. I'm interested in around this theme Knbr but we live in an era. Now where the writer of the book it's complete approval over every fucking prop and every element of set dressing and yellow. James Apparently early just didn't let her do anything. I mean the ending is still one of the funniest endings ever because he just like gives her like a few spankings with his hand and she's just like no. I can't handwrite enemies. Thanks or one time. And she's like an elephant in the end she gets in an elevator and says I'm done doors closed and the movie literally basically it was like checking next year for part to like it's not like the movie is like and that's the other thing is that scene has happened ten times over the course of the film. You just watch. Yeah no it's a weird thing because a lot of people I know got really upset about it because of its like wrong portrayal of the DSM but the thing about treating their an illness not about VDI Sir just like about this guy who does not know how to love a woman without changing and once and once they're like settled and married. They don't even really do it anymore. I mean he comes about all this other ships and helicopters and can basing her like it just seems like it was written by a person that like hasn't had any interesting sex shows and I just don't new books. Yes I'm sure I'm sure she does. I mean it must be easy when you don't really add it right. So can I just say congratulations to the fan. Fiction community for their accomplishment is pretty incredible incredible. Yeah the MR I try. I what it's called. I was listening to the Mr on audio book and I just could doc who does the audio book does she do. No it's like just like the mystery. Some five hundred twelve pages which is close to double the length of beloved. Yeah Three Twenty maybe fifties like that beloved is like unlike a nice like not too long of a book look but every couple pages is just like full of so much emotion from and like like even when I was reading the bluest eye which is probably like her shortest book. It still took me a really long time. Just because like every page I put it down I had to be like okay. I need to think about what I just read the book. The problem with this is the problem with so many great American authors that her books are often foisted on kids in high school. And they're tough. They're they're challenging reads. Oh you know something as you say. Sometimes he'd just sit whether you need to be sort of like help. Guide it through. Yeah and so kids think of her. Is this like broccoli off adds to read okay. She's she's so good so good and I was gonna say I don't know if it's just my weird taste or whatever but I I was as a kid who despite a liking words and books was so anti school that usually resented any book I was assigned route and I remember Song of Solomon being one of the books in high school where I was like. I enjoy reading this. I am reading this for pleasure. I'm reading this out of enthusiasm. You're right that was like one of the ones that gripped me in that stood out after high school where I didn't throw away my copy. You know throw away your copy. Her burning burning books or in any book. I don't like but but I never read beloved. I bought it five days ago because I was like. Oh I should probably read it before the show and then made it ten pages in and it was like. I'm not going to finish this five days trying to read beloved just like a pretty fast reader I had not read of Solomon in sixteen years very tough to like like sort of try and skim. Read her books. I forgot I forgot how denser languages Merson but it was one of those things where I was like. I'm not going to speed read this for the sake of saying I read it before the podcast I I will put it on my shelf and read it in full. I kind of feel like this kind of story would probably be best assed either for a mini series or a very like liberal adaptation. kind of Lake goes through. You know kind of more of the emotional beats than not not necessarily like all of the story because it does. I think you've probably read the book more recently than I but like the the movie is trying to just get it all in there. Yeah and I don't really think that it works especially in scenes. Where like okay? So we're in a scene and then we kind of see a flashback. Where we're not fully in the flashback? Like we're getting a preview. You of it. The opening of this movie is very aggressive. Yes yes yes anyway carry on so yeah and so it just seems like there's it's like it doesn't seem like Demi really understood good what to do with the back story and so it just kind of like feels jarring and kind of like takes the poetry out out of it a lot of the time and it's also I mean I get this a lot I feel this a lot with like a man like directors portraying anything having to do slavery agree. But it's just like so. It's such a weird version of that doesn't really take. It's time to really like get into the emotions of the situation. Relation the emotions is what the root of this story is. It's about you know the trauma of slavery and like how it continues is to stick with your opponent. Yeah and so it's like you can't just like shows like a flashback of me like we got it yeah. I think flashbacks are the roughest right. I agree you like the sort of roughest portion of this movie. It's not a bad movie. There are things about odd thing. Yeah yes had you ever seen it before Griffin. I had never seen it before had had either. Have you seen it before. Yeah I watched it like as a kid. Okay but I saw it again. Did you see it like when you were reading the book. I saw it in high school when now I didn't read the book until I was an adult so interests. You've seen the movie I yeah and then you read the book look fairly recent. How yeah I don't know how this movie it's crazy to think about this movie just coming out anyway because Yeah but that's the kind of thing that needs a roll out like kind of like a Barry Jenkins like combat too easy when to this giant. Right it feels like a crazy Z.. Thing for people to have just been like love it. I don't know what it's like a period ghost movie. Let's all go. I like sitting down to watch this movie. And like tough the impact and it and it was like I feel like it's main selling point was oh anytime Oprah pixelbook people go Gaga for it. This is the greatest Oprah's book club of all Time Oprah. Herself right is making the movie and putting herself in her big return as a film actress. Right like the Oprah endorsement stamp is the whole thing but it is this strange felony. It's like an eighty million dollar Disney financed. Yes it's Disney film. The only adaptation of like like one eighty most crazy amount of crazy amount of money for this movie doesn't look like it costs. Eighty million dollars does not most fish in the house. Yeah it's yeah. Yeah that's a while. Yeah big budget and the fact that this is the only Tony Morrison. Only this is that part of it. Has She just mostly not sold her book. I think that's the case. Obviously Oprah option this book personal check for one million dollars which I'd love it if Oprah wrote me a Bristle purcell cheerful million dollars. Yeah and even after this movie. I'm pretty sure Tony Morrison was like was at peace with the movie which I don't know how much of that is. Just like. I like my friend Oprah or how much of it is this. This actually works for the material. I wonder what's right I mean I think authors are usually pretty judicious about like not getting to mad unless yes they decide to go yeah hard. BNB Like No. It sucks right like do a Stephen King is sure but yes she. She was polite about the movie. He is far as she was. And this also feels like a movie that is go ahead to two very skilled very powerful people trying their ernest hardest to do you right by the book they're not taking any radical yes swings at changing it right right So that probably in and of itself pleaser and the fact that like Oprah spent eleven eleven years trying to get it right you know. Yeah yeah I I it. Ending up with Demi is such an interesting like I've watched. This is the thing I've been trying to figure genre. This is because like you know my favorite demi movies are like something. Why old married to the mall like more that kind of stuff Rachel getting married and so oh him doing nothing like his hoover points to this for me in a way and then when I started watching it I kind of understood where Oprah was the one who just said Demis who I want right? She offers it to that right. Yeah okay because I was trying to figure this out because this jess aided for ten years it was very much how to shoot past the Shirley other directors had may been involved at some point if it was sorta jesting. I feel like the big thing was her constantly gently hiring new writers to try to adapt. I mean I might be wrong in this and I was digging in to try to find history but it seemed like so much of the Star was obviously Oprah headed day job free time consuming zooming and she didn't WanNa get the movie off the ground even try to get it off the ground until she felt like the adaptation was right right and Richard Legrand as wrote on it and Brooks yes. Yes we recognize. There is a coffee table. Book called journey to beloved in which she describes the process of making beloved by Pro Free. I have not read it but I know I feel. I WanNa read so much even at the time when people were like why is a white man directing this film Oprah Wisconsin saying like like. This is who I chose. This is who I want. I felt like he was the best person to do. Obviously at the time he is very major director he had made two films that decade That's awesome celebs. Obviously this is nine hundred ninety. Eight and Philadelphia. Its first film since Philadelphia six years earlier. He's made a lot of documentaries. In between but this is I correct fiction film and six years. His two previous films were Major Oscar players so certain degree. This is weird nineties trilogy. Trilogy of like Oscar Films. That's sort of like the serious prestige. Jonathan Demme right except all three of these films are very strange very different and do not play as conventional offscreen movies so I think to her mind a he seemed like one of the big serious guys and and to another point to a certain degree watching this especially the first thirty minutes which leaned so much more into the horror. Everything you kind of see why she would want to hire the silence of the lambs gotTa make because movie. Hello get the door. Oh Hello Hello Hello Hello Hello Unique New York unique New York you NORC. Oh I Kevin Kline Academy Award winner. Kevin Kline Kevin Cliven Klein. Okay can winning actor. Don't you recognize my voice. My very clean diction view. 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It was it makes Paul come off differently than he does in the book because in the book he just kind of reminds me of somebody that would wear a zoot suit. zoot suits had been created at the time because it feels like he's just charisma guy. Good looking but the whole power this this guy is. There's something about him he's so engaged is or what's really sexy about him. Oh his eyes are unbelievable. Yeah he's kind of got like like Disney cartoon cartoon animal is just so round right and you can just see so much of the emotion his yes she's yeah so I mean like he's he's like he's like up for the job but that's that's an interesting thing it's especially interesting when his interactions with like Denver played by Kimberly Elise who I think is is really good and really the narrative being a little bit like she was kind of the. Here's like a major new star right right. We're going to have Kimberly Elise. I'm kind of upset that she didn't didn't really break out like she. I mean a lot of the rules that she's had just had been in set it off shore and she's so great and set it all right great movie. I want to talk about her for a second because I actually this is make career and partly. Maybe because it's you know literally at the at the time just tough to get good vehicles actress. I mean I've been doing this. This research on the black films of the decade and why more black films nominated for Oscars and everything Part of it is that like they. You really weren't a lot of rules for black women. During that time like aside from like in two thousand and you kind of got some Rom coms and things but mostly in the nineties nineties. It was like waiting to exhale. Set it off. Whatever side role and like juicer menace society those are like small is right and there's someone right and then there's stuff on the fringes like just another T. in the watermelon woman that people didn't even really talk about until yes well? Yeah yeah it is and so she. I feel like they're just wasn't really anything and then like it wasn't until really like Tyler Perry in with Dave Matt Black Woman I think two thousand five yes. She's which is really just writes. She's the titular the matt black. She's really great. Yeah it's a weird thing where I feel like there could only be. She has a certain look where there can be only so many of her at once and I also think that that a lot of her thunder was stolen by Tandy Newton which is really funny considering. Thanks Kimberly Elise the better actress interesting. I mean AH attending. Newton does pretty quickly go from this to you know booking your mission impossible to your big role. They sort of chose her her to be the next one but then we talk about in our following. He had a weird career episode. We take the truth about Charlie upset. She ends up coming back around to being sort of a character actor actress which is her better zone. Yeah and you've watched like the the degree to which he liked digs into this character which is not a part that most Andrzej News News would want to take which speaks to the fact that I don't think she thought about positioning herself as an ingenue. Which Hollywood then did the Kimberley's thing which I think is fascinating? Is that like set. Set it off as such a breakout. Then this is presumed to be this big Oscar player. She's the only one who kinda gets traction off this. She gets like a critics award. She gets a COUPLA critics awards. Yeah then people thought and then the movie just didn't really connect and then she's kind of in like another space for like a couple of years eight. She's in I'm John Q.. I think these are sort of thankless roles but then her revival weirdly is and to some degree. She was too early early on this. It's Tara Matt Black Man and woman our loose which are the first to like big Christian movies. Crossover into mainstream like `rational `rational sort of like yeah it's shintos eight and both. She's playing people who like in bad relationship toxic things and they're like over she kind of like anointed that new genre. At least in terms of like being a crossover success for those two movies were like actual mainstream box office performers whereas faith-based films had not performed that way before but it does it speaks to like so this was the first post served. I remember right where it's like. She's earning tour. Yes if you remember number like she's sort of last. I remember. That was the sort of the those initial tyler. Perry movies always had that more impressionistic pose to different take their wanted poster and the movie was crazy. Like right there was the media has a going gone and then as the tyler. Perry verse sort of went on. It was more they would more just. I usually just be like wacky posters with a lot of being Medina came franchise. They were pretty smart in terms of understanding. That is the juxtaposition of all tyler. Perry movies you have very broad comedy. And he's like sort of our posters. Yeah no the flower posters fantastic. I mean I think there's one for daddy's little girls. There's there's a flower. Yes that's legitimately good interest Elba so good in that. I have not seen every time. I think. Think think in general when it comes to black black actors and specifically black women. You kind of have to hitch your wagon to Lee Daniels Tyler. Perry Oprah or I guess Eva soon is kind of like I WANNA flowers and they and she just didn't she. I mean it's weird. She was there at the ground floor. And it's like we moved into the later to thousands and she got forgotten. God that's what's interesting. Is I feel like she was this trailblazer in terms of like I think to do. A faith based film was not seen as a good career. Move for a legitimate actress at that point in time. Yeah and she does the two that break out and then suddenly everyone realizes Oh. Let's jump into water and she kind of gets pushed out of it. It's interesting because there are so many like Viola Davis was in media. Goes right like there's so many Gabriel unions in their handsome talk uh-huh Terachi's and multiple ex she had gotten the Oscar nomination and no one was giving her lead parts and she was like Tyler. Perry was the only person who would give me a lead role who raised my quake. Wait sorry in Hollywood. And then I suddenly was viewed as a leading lady and like it became clear career path for everyone to do. It became the equivalent. Dylan I feel like for black actors of like White Pretty Actors doing a Sundance Indie to be like wait. I can actually add. It became a thing to like show. You're sorta born of God gave have you the next three thankless wife roles that Kimberly Elise pointed host. IRA from okay inspirational. Okay You know bio-pic bio-pic true story film. Because those two movies she is the lead characters also in the mentoring candidate at that right. Sporting world pride cried which if you remember and terrence Howard swimming yes swimming move swimming drama in which I think she plays like the wife in the great debaters the Denzel Washington Movie In which I think she plays some mom like that and then and this is the one I do not remember. She played Ben. Carson's wife in gifted hands the bed car slow junior plays Ben Carson now secretary of Housing Ben Carson. ow She wasn't she. I'm trying to think I think I saw something recently and I was shocked. I think he was ad Astra. Yes yes yes yes she dies. She's one of the Nice people on the ship. Were there like. It's really great to have you aboard Brad Pitt. And he's like happy to be here by the end of it. They're her all day is that doesn't know how to talk to anybody boone. Ship know who's on the ship that takes them the docks with the ban the whole crew in the tire. Crew Commandeer Ed by the end of it. They're all dead right because his daddy never taught him out a fucking commuter. Oh my God kimberly. Yeah I love for like I oh my God like I am nobody but I would love to just like write the screenplay and just be like. Can I just get this in her hands. Can we give her something to me. You say you say you were nobody which is not true. You're very respected writer. But I feel like very often people like that where you're like this actor so good. No one writes good parts of them. I wish I could write something for them. It could never ever get through to them AIDS easier to get through them and you think and be they are so excited that someone's writing apart for them that they would do it. You know like I feel like Rank Kugler talks about that with Michael Jordan. Where like he wrote Fruitvale station and he was like man? I'd love to get this guy but I assume he's like inundated with offers and he sent Anthony. Michael Jordan and Michael Jordan was like no one has ever offered me a lead role before I've been acting since I was eleven on the wire. Yeah Yeah and he was like I I never Kugler is like I assumed you were just choosy and turned down stuff. And he's like no no one was ever letting any beal right. No one even through by me as an option. Well well yeah. It's Kim believes. Yeah let's do that. I mean and I guess I guess Tandy we knew we should probably talk about talk about her Tandy Newton of course finish she. She's an actress who I had. I mentioned this before we started started recording but my relationship with her was like I was convinced she was bad for such a long time like I would watch her and a bunch of things and she was bad in them. And then I watched wes worldwide achieve great show fucking good and just like okay. Well then what's been going on all this stuff so I'd WanNa talk about India's a British actress as I said I believe believe Her mom was a Zimbabwean princess. Her Dad is like a lab tech or London. Her name means beloved. Take all over the easy and the first thing I feel like the first thing that I knew her in. I guess she's an into the vampire. I don't remember her as she is. She's I'm one of the maids in when they're in the mansion I think she gets killed. She gets they sucker blood. It's been a while since I saw that one. The only black person then then. She's in Jefferson in Paris playing. Sally Hemming Okay. Movie movie as I have never seen it merchant ivory movie was a big move Nick Nolte. Thomas Jefferson it's like it's like a love love triangle between nick. Nolte Tandy Duterte. I believe Gwyneth Paltrow Greta Scacchi or however you say yeah but let's find out it's No no it's true and I just remember thinking Oh whose idea what this also just like. Why is it a romance? Is the cell store. Your roommate right here is very much. Yes here like it looks like A. I'm GonNa find you the poster I really they like you see Tandy Newton listening and on the other side of the door being like You know this is a movie. It was Oskar play but it was a bomb. Yeah so she was in that that. She's on the poster big film and then after that she's in grid-locked which is a good movie but I she's kind of really big in my memory like surreally over the top she can. We can sometimes airy theatrical intrical yes which e sometimes suits the material very well overdoses in the movie where it quickly. Because that's sort of part of the plot good movie yeah and then she's in this okay and then right after this mission impossible to. Yeah and then truth about Charlie chronicles of Riddick. Then I think she also big GARCON. Er Okay Noah Wylie's wife Yeah. He meets her when he's doing good in Africa and they have a whole up and down. She was on era. Lot interesting interesting show all kinds. It's favourite show. I love your anytime. She showed up in New York. You'd be like fuck 'cause it was like always the most depressing storyline. Yeah like she was just there for like the show to be sad. And for Noah wyle decry for her to cry I was like the one. TV show. My mom watched. My mom was fairly really anti TV right without throwing the TV out the window and Bannon TV from our home and that was the one show she watched. It was a big deal and every so often I would go see a movie with my mom and an actor would come on screen. Should go and I go. What and she say terrible arcand? Er like I felt shrew Osmosis that thing of when er spent eight episodes. It's on a really annoying plotline. My mother would hold it against that actor for the next ten years. That's how I was Beverly Hills Ninety two now fair. Thanks that have like kind of like overdramatic soap opera. ARC's like that. You tend to blame the actor for corrupting your show for taking the show hostage. Yeah definitely definitely and then she gets ends up in the zone of like Pursuit of happiness pursuit of happiness nor bit Jordan. Don't miss the object of desire junior and Eddie Murphy wrestling. Our next episode is the most thankless role. I refuse to watch it but in the the middle of all that there is a crash obviously which gets her a BAFTA nomination and another movie win the BAFTA she wins. She wins best supporting actress. Yes yes that's another movie where she's really big and she's real us. Doing a lot of people are everyone is pretty big. Terrence Howard is doing alive terrence Howard is also another one. That's always doing a lot. I've never received terrence Howard. Just chill a movie. I mean the the Tanu noon performance from this era that I really like which is also very big and thus very divisive but I think is really good is hers Condoleeza Rice and W AH I don't agree with you. I think she's the one person comes on the right wave like A. Yeah I like how cartoon person who's good in w Elizabeth banks for some reason. Banks is also good. I've not seen it does not exist that is astounding. We don't talk about that that the year that he was still in office his final year in office all over stone made a weirdly aid allegedly sympathetic George W Bush movie where it's like. Look he's a stupid guy. What can you do but the movie is? Just what would make this guy run for president. Just him being like. Oh shucks. I'm sure stupid. And then Richard Dreyfuss is Dick Cheney and he's like what if we were evil mugging interviews. Richard Dreyfuss it'd be like Dick Cheney's fucking asshole we get it. You know like the guy and this is insane and that he's on one I watch it. I mean I I saw is so I feel like I should just leave. It is better than vice. Oh thank God very kind of by default. I mean the only. The person that I think is good advice. Tyler Perry I agree with you. Thank you better than Jeffrey. Wright is in that role in W W. and I love Jeff. Yes I hang dog. He has I believe we. I make the same point in next week's episode. The only other person I think is good and w view is alison pill. Okay anyway inviting him. Sorry Sir Point is the point is ten. I think has somewhat of a a phenomenon that we love on this show. You get angry when I use an example but I think he is a good example the Colin Farrell Syndrome where someone is a very magnetic skilled actor who is also incredibly attractive and everyone goes over a movie star and they kind of flounder. When you put them in movie star roles sure and they're only good good when you let them too weird shit? Yeah they need to have a lot of weird shit to law Monto and if not then they're putting way too much into what should be pure presence role. Well I agree. I just watched Roman Israel last night which I law already here in Colin Farrell ended up just like candy and just like this for my favorite storyline Brinson. You are on the same page and then I disagree but you watch something like Dumbo and your likes good. He's he's doing too much dumbo. No Tandy Newton's daughters in Dumbo. She's The star that is true. And you spend half the movie peeing like this girl is familiar. Yeah she looks. I order the director of a young clone of Tandy not yeah director of Mama Mia here we go again yes science each family. Yeah Soga at So yeah I should. I WANNA point out the Tandy Newton performance. It made me think about that. She was is a bad actress and her performance in for colored girls and really like everybody's kind of playing Tessa Thompson is really great and for colored girls. Oh she's like the only person where I'm just like. She's fantastic from that too right. He goes one time tyler. Perry brought her back in. That's a thankless role. Wow now a lot of his collaborate like Janet Jackson's in that Goldberg Felicia his Avenger Carrie Washington a little bit. He's taking a play. That's a series of bottle logs and turning it into a movie and it was a big swing. Ah She's just poor poor. Who cares more and that? She's just like yelling that she just like yelling in this weird like it's like she's trying to play ghetto. But since I don't believe that Tandy Newton has ever been to the ghetto. She just ten Newton is. She's from England yeah. She lived a relatively posh genteel stamps Berry Pasta. But it's just like her doing. What did I describe it up? Oh yeah it was like poor poured drag like a drag of just way off. Yeah I I kind of. I was thinking about for colored girls a lot when watching this because a lot of the noises that she makes remind me of the way that her voice sounded girl. We have to talk about performance of beloved. She plays beloved reincarnated ghost of murder child. Who has is in an adult body and his haunting her mother right? But it's sort of taken the guise of like sort of a essentially like an intellectually disabled woman who shows up on her porch and a fancy dress with drooling android. Hacky bugs or gone by the time she select what she has the bugs under what I'm guessing. Is that supposed to be like a baby but like corporate hers like Oh she must be touched or striped actor which I think that is the idea that she is a baby with adult fatty and so she kind of like growls and sort of makes clicking noises and speaks in this very very babyish way. It is a very nineties. Oscar part on pay these on pay per year allows an actor or something right. We're like language and it's sort of like what is going on here. This is so showy and did you folks read Alison. Wilmore's piece on. Edward Norton came out really good pieces of film writing. I've read in the last well she she's regis shouldn't be allowed to work. He's good Alison Willmore. She owns but that piece. I thought she Chris Licensing really interesting. The pieces sort of on how in arguably Edward Norton was viewed Das- V. Guy by the end of the late nineties. It was like that's when he was in the score. People were like Brando Deniro nor Einstein past right but you go from ninety six to ninety nine. He makes five movies gets to Oscar nominations. I mean it was like he just hit the ground running and ninety nine hundred clubs coming Out there the Vanity Fair profile that is like it's undeniable. Edward Norton is the actor of his generation. I believe that's right. The ready charming he makes this weirdly eardley terming round calm and then does the score and it felt like the annointment moment and then his career like sort of drives off a cliff and herbal. I wouldn't say that exude the twenty fifth hour right after that. Oh that's true. Twenty hours. His last Italia job where he's like I didn't want to miss the movies fine. He was luckily obligated looted. And then and then he's in that's when he's Kinda gets into weird. Yes although some people like the illusionist I think he should some movie. I like after that. ooh Painted Vale. No the one I think is really good that no one ever talks about is two days in the valley down days. The values and say ninety thriller down in the Valley Is Valley's really good. He's really good in it but her it is that he's hoosiers. Saw Those Luke Doc. Sorry for argument. He spent most of the nineties like trying to live up to the reputation of his first five years and those performances that arguably hold up the worst and if they're very big and it was when he was all about the capital a acting where it was about the challenge of. What's the difficult thing and actor do and show you how difficult you fear he has? There's a stutter right. Yeah right and in the score his like his fake covers that he pretends to be an intellectually disabled man that is part of his congress. I'm great and she was like it's a kind of performance. Where like he wants to call attention to the fact that what he's doing so difficult and he's playing someone who's doing the time when he starts developing mothers Brooklyn was supposed to come out like two thousand four zero whenever you explained that used to be this idea of acting was what kind of affliction election? What different sort of identity? Outside of how much. He isn't in a wheelchair in wheelchair like so much. The bar for acting was like. Oh my God Sean Penn.. You won't believe this Niamh Sam that it was like those guys when it starts to flip the right get the nomination i. I feel like a couple of years after that people start going wait. Is that cool but but that it was always viewed as like. Oh my God. Can you believe this this actors playing a guy with this you know like Oh my God Harvey Bardem is going to be bedridden entire movie. That's sort of thing which now is so like out of vogue. It is a little bit. Yeah was it's like at this point in time. Like Oh my God tandy. Newton has been chosen to play the woman the adult woman who speaks only in grunts and constantly drooling like that was viewed it as like. Oh she's going to be a star and then you've watched this performance now and you're like well she's really going for it but it's kind of uncomfortable to watch. I re watched the ending ending scene. Where all of the all the church women show up on the on the yard and then Jason robards there and then she's like pregnant Guinand and she's completely newsday kid hair? The hair is right. She's GonNa Pass is really happening. And then she's doing this thing with her teeth. which tariff me where it kind of seems like she looked like a cartoon a Renan stimpy characters like one side of her mouth is going one way the other side of her mouth was going the other way like they were just like the teeth were like crashing into each other slanted and I was just like how did she even do that to her mouth? That's the thing like this performance is undeniably impressive on a technical level. There are things she's doing physically and vocally that I can't even imagine schlink's when she's onscreen interested in what she's doing I suppose and it's effective of in how upsetting it is. which is the main thing this character should accomplish in the movie? I guess. Yeah but you know it's kind of like I don't know I feel like a more dial down. Performance would have been better. I agree the other thing is that the movie is largely dialed. This is not a movie. That's like really scary Harry. It's none of them. That's trying to be like that it is a demi movie and it has that sort of like big heart of his which I think is totally on a different chart art. I think this is probably why she hired demme. 'cause you're like he meet these two movies that deal with difficult things in a way. That is lacking in the sort of sense of self-importance or Hollywood gloss offs. You know that deal with like you know the trauma of these things with appropriate weight. That are sort of graphic without being exploitative. If you know they don't feel salacious and that he was such a good actors director yet he can keep this away for melodrama. I imagine that's what she was drawn onto. But then Tandy Newton is in a different kind of movie. Yeah you go for. She is in the more conventional sort of Oscar. We live in of this film. Yeah journey what do you think of me in general I like him. I like his movies About troubled white women. I love something while the tournament. Absolute favorite movies. I really love married to the mob will watch it at any point that it's on Rachel getting married carried really good I'm a little more. I guess lukewarm on some of his more the movies that people like you know. Give him awards for like. I'm I'm not really into silence of the lambs. I think that it's good but I also think I waited a really long time to watch it past the point to where it was a fundamental like horror. We're kind of thriller staple But yeah no I generally generally like him but I just it. Is this weird run. That's like a total total in his career. Because there's a straight line in like the eighties and the seventies of him building up his sort of voice and his own weird like. Yeah tonal balance and then like silence Philadelphia beloved and especially the gap between Philadelphia Beloved. I think is so toweling Laura go right By all accounts I I think the sort of The the criticisms of transphobia against silence really he hit him hard he felt very guilty and he got Philadelphia off the ground very quickly as sort of trying to make a corrective active film and then he seemed pretty content making documentaries he only made one between ninety two and ninety eight. What's the one he made Oh boy let me look his cousin bobby and stored there too. So it's just wrong for year will be between sounds in Philadelphia. Okay and then he makes storefront hitchcock in ninety eight weird so he really didn't do anything. He was really chilling. He seemed kind of out. It was John. Yeah and Oprah kind of hold them back in and then after overcomes this he he likes zags again. Sure after this. He makes Truth Veterans Charlie and yet during candidate relatively quickly to doesn't two thousand which truth about Charlie while not entirely successful is him kind of trying to get back back to the eighty something wild energy goofy right despite it being a big studio film extensively thriller you watch it internally. It is far more similar to those eighties common. Is it good I have not seen. It is very strange very strange. Okay it's far more. I don't think it's going to settle your opinion on Tandy. Either you could really go either way with what she's doing that at one the advantage she has. There's that Mark Wahlberg. She seems cool. Calm collected got to mark Wahlberg who is like what is i. Don't know what am I going here. What is this is that that's supposed to be like charades raid all right? Why would mark Wahlberg question trout? Will Smith was supposed to play. Okay okay who has that energy just waited for. They should've just tried to get back and we'll talk about that next week. You should see if you like something while other piece of those and it's very in love with like French new wave yet. Sort of a Weirdo. MAS and like pops up and things like that A Korean patrol POPs up. It's very weird clearly. One one of those movies where everyone's having a nice time. Yeah okay it's not like but it's fucking weird it's fucking weird but it is not a movie that has the sort of important in film sort of wait on it that this does but I also feel like this is a movie where Demi is trying to in terms of having the movie take place at a more modest. Let's pitch that. He is trying to steer this movie out of the self importance that I think most filmmakers would attached to it. especially if you're the only only person who's ever getting to adapt. Tony Morrison years over putting all over weight behind it. I feel the movie is actually putting energy into trying to remain modest. I it's sort of tenor. Yeah here's the thing. I just found out okay. Peter Weir was at one point attach interesting. Oh my oprah fired him him because he wouldn't he didn't want her to play the lead role. Would you like Peter relaxed. Play the lead role. She's a great choice for the sackler. Seems like a weird line to draw. Maybe thought like she's going to be the boss. I won't be able to direct like maybe he was just worried about like power balance stuff pulling Leonard. She's her movie. Yeah that's the thing. This is kind of movie it is. I do think demis who has always been like a big collaborators collaborative filmmaker Kern. She knows that ultimately she wants final. Say on this move and I mean she everything that she's doing the way that she shot the way that she's framed. She's great. She's great yeah I she's she's really good. Yeah I it's a very sad performance right ways. Yeah but it but it doesn't feel feeling knowing Louis. I mean I kept on thinking about the cold as we. She's basically good. She says she's loved her Danny Glover's opposite. He scary very good. I'm always fascinated by the phenomenon of movie stars. Who have another day job? Yeah and just occasionally decide to be movie we start because right in more recent years. She's dropped into things like the Butler Selma Right. He's always good. Yes yeah you're like Oh and you never are like. That's the most like one of was famous people on Earth. No which is tough. Because she's very famous and even like wrinkle in time where she is bug nuts very large humour tall. All right. You never like you have to pull yourself out of the film to remind yourself. It is weird. That I'm watching Oprah be the size of seven buildings. He's kind of well. CAST ask that because they're supposed to be stars in that. I'm a wrinkle. In time apologised. I really really liked. I know Griffin things exactly but we are both definitely wrinkle in time mm. We're intrigued by passing. I truly could not make sense of it. I have no value of that movie. I it's a very interesting movie. I really really loved it but I also saw it it was I saw at Alamo Draft House with a bunch of adults which is it was so weird to see that many adults. They're like I have three little sisters so when I go. We'll see kids movies. I'm like am I gonNA buy the DVD for my sister. So that's why again. See it with them. You were like prescreening. Yeah Yeah and so it was just like to seize all these adults there for like a pretty late screening wrinkle in time I was just like and then they were mad the entire time that it wasn't what they thought I was just like this film I very very strange. I saw it at a theatre where it has close up. It had clearly been bought out like forty percent of the audience by a church group and I saw a weekend matinee and it was at the Disney tater the El Capitain in La. Where before the movie they had an organised play a medley of songs and they did a laser like indoor war plankton? Tariam show okay. We're they like projected stars. It was very bizarre and the movie had been out for like four weeks so there was like all this pomp circumstance to like an eleven. Am like Sunday screening. Wow that was mostly children and lay group leaders. Yeah Yeah it was very nice audience. This is audience. They were very into the movie. I I just couldn't. It is such a bizarre film in so many ways. Yeah it definitely is Love Zach Galifianakis and I think thank. He's crazy. Yeah I mean pine is like I feel like the moment where he was. What was it it was like the Oscars they were doing? I feel like it sent a signal to black people including me. We want this man like I literally remember him being hired hired by a for. It's like Oh yeah he used today's now he's now he's crying entertain. What is the common thread between the Selma? Elma moment and wrinkle in time. He's got that hot ask Greybeard he really. He's looked so hard so fucking good he should I know I assume in wonder woman two hundred four. He's just like plucked out of time or he's in her brain or something but like what if you updated him with a little beer you give them an update. Let love exactly so go on this. I'm also the he spider man spider verse. He's good yes whose like parents dies. Yeah yeah so no I was. I was watching when I was watching the end of this movie in this morning just so that I was like fresh in my mind I I was thinking so much about. Have Y'all Atlantic's Yes. Yes I was just thinking so much about another ghost what Mattie could've done with the material. I think like if this movie was made now. She's the person that I would want to do it. That is the weird contradict tactile ghosts stuff. Yeah Yeah I was GonNa say it's the we're contradictory nature of like it. Feels like the best adaptation of this movie. I mean you were saying mini series but I feel like the best is probably the ultra low budget one where you have to get very creative with limited resources and make something that is more Expressionistic in that kind of way stuff. I like most in this. Missile is like when Dany governor shows up on the Porch Yep called the end she brings him in and he'd just seized the red light as we were talking about. It's a very effective and very simple. Little cinematic trick. Yeah but there is a weird thing like the most effective stuff in the movie and even when you have the scenes where like the spirit is like attacking backing the house. There's something kind of charmingly like analog about those effects where you can tell it's just like pieces of furniture on strings strings moves like very simple because they don't do the poltergeist up much after the first ten minutes and the poltergeists are on screen inherently goofy right. Yes it is just like lights wider kind of charming about how Lo fi all of that stuff feels in terms of the actual manipulation of the objects the room and things like that and something like in Atlantics. The most striking thing in that movie is the way she uses mirrors which is such a smart like no budget solution. Lucien Yeah for visualizing a very complicated thing that otherwise would probably be done with. CGI If anyone who's making that story on a larger scale and it's a thing where like this movie shouldn't cost else that much but also you look at it and there are two massive movie stars in it right in every scene and their costumes look so expensive and they're very recruiter. Take nominated costume house. I mean all these elements in the film that are supposed to look very. Ramshackle are ramshackle in a very very expensive bespoke way. Yes that's a problem that does have that. Like Ninety S Oscar Hsun. Yeah reading the book I think a lot about the the feelings and a lot of the conflicts are internal like. There's this sense that Denver and Sethi you want to be haunted and then when Paul de comes he gets rid of that haunting and the reason why Denver does not like him is because the thing that she had that that she somehow made her feel less alone. Isn't there anymore and there's just a man here instead and I feel like a lot of that stuff that dynamic is going to exile that that dynamic is the root of the story and it gets excised for stuff that I don't think necessarily early work. Denver is just not a character in the film until she needs to be until the latter half of the sort of the the scene with her as the driving. Like thing the buck. Walk like how she reacts to things her relationship with beloved when she realizes that beloved is actually her sister at seems pretty excellent at Lisa's park mark. Yeah and so. There's all that stuff. And then of course like seth is kind of like internal thing is this idea of like. She wants to be happy but she almost doesn't feel like she. She deserves to be happy because of what she's been through. And so like a lot of that internal stuff. I almost feel that the Demi I feel get get sat in other movies has trouble getting at it in this movie. I think he'd probably fairy tentative about his position position as a white man making this film I think he has talked about that. He was like the sort of intimidated when she offered it to him and had to be talked into doing it because he it didn't feel like he was the right person. And tell the story and only eventually signed on because Oprah was so adamant that she thought he was So I think especially Ashley if you're trying to get at the internal life you know. And it is a specific internal life that is so specific to like a culture and history in a place in existence that is so out side of his own I think he probably was afraid to tip toe too much into it. I think you're right that probably the best version of this movie is a little more abstract with that because Tony Morrison is a writer who is so much about the internal life and that is the thing that is very hard to translate literally into screenplay as you said like the The flashbacks are mostly. Just painful I don't sort of super saturation. That he does. And all you know like the kind of like hey can you tell. This horrible pass pass is coming back to the right like it feels way to like sort of obvious and I don't know yeah I mean I have this issue a lot with like kind of like the way that slave narratives. I'm kind of the opinion that most slave movies are bad. Just because I don't feel like we've found good way to make a good one yet and yes I include twelve years of slave in this I think is bad. So it's a weird. It was kind of making me think of the flashbacks because I recently watched the nate Parker Birth of a nation saw you tweeting about. Yeah for me of that. Movie Stinks and sued. I suppose it's real bad so you were also saying that. Has This another movie that was made cheaply of obviously hadn't film but also has all those annoying tricks of like dialing up the saturation duration or things like that just like this is grim and brutal. Yeah Hotton sweaty and things like I just feel like there's something there's something more like the way that said describes sweet home in the buck and this idea of like you know on the one hand she's getting to have like a little little bit of joy on the other hand. It's like a terrible situation where she's dealing with these traumas and there's so much conflict in the way that she recalls that time and I don't catch any of that conflict in the movie. Maybe it's partly the Oprah problem or whatever it's what you sort of ten with us that she's sort of becoming the main character is just her superstardom and I don't know what she's driving the project and maybe that's sort of an inherent problem. It's like you're leading so so much of her drive in making this film is I want to share this story with a larger audience. She viewed it in the way that she views endorsing any a book on her show. Yeah and I mean I you know I know about like after this movie when it didn't go well like Sheba's just it's not even that she was like mad at black people for not not coming but she was just disappointed. She was a teacher. It's like I made this thing and it's like really and Y'all didn't come out but it's also just like the way that it was packaged kind of like the the way that it was done. It wasn't it doesn't really ease you in in the in a wave like for example the color purple did. Because you know that's that's Spielberg. That's like ah his whole lot of genius of Spielberg. It's that you can take this really hard subject matter. But it was like he's pulling you in emotionally. He's kind of easing you into you the the harsher aspects. Yeah I mean. She's talked about when this movie came out and bombed. It was the only time she has ever experienced depression in her life. Well not the only no no. She's she's talked about other. Well I think this is going to read you this quote from Wikipedia. Say sorry she had she she's had some very I know she's had so that's why talked about how she ate. Mac and cheese all day gained thirty pounds and then realize later that she was depressed right but I do you think this was a huge low point for her and I mean I think that that was part of. I talked about this a little bit when I wrote about the women of Brewster place where it kind kind of feels like Black women and those stories kind of had to move to television to get seen. And I think that Oprah kind of after this movie was just. It's like okay. Well I'm just putting it on. TV Jau because I feel like in if we would've astor like a long time ago. It's like Oh what are you gonNA. If you're gonNA make their eyes. Were watching God with Halle. Very you'd want it to be on the big screen and instead it's not. It's a movie that a lot of people have not seen it's just a television movie and the shifts becomes like she will will loan her oprah power to another filmmaker she will help assist them during the movie made national champion it but she's no longer driving the bus on her her film projects. Yeah and she starts acting again essentially when she leaves network. TV when she moves to the daily show. I WanNa read you this quote because I know Oprah has lived through a lot in her life I understand. I'm sure she said she literally Blake left a suicide note that she's I'm very aware I just want to read you her quote unquote quote. She said it was the only time in my life that I was ever depressed and I recognised. That was depressed. Because I've done enough shows on the topic. Oh this is what people must feel like. Who are depressed? Pratt Sushi creasing fame. That's the way old thing for her. To say. Great is insane talked about literally. I was so depressed I wrote a suicide. That's so weird. That's like if I got famous and then went on a talk show and it's just like when this movie bombed. Yeah I have never been through any struggle. That's why jumped actually. Because I'm like this is someone who's been very open with all the traumas of her life and how she built her life and she's the great empath and she's always explaining her own experiences against ambulance on the show. Yeah she says it's the low point of her entire time. She's I think she really really thought that this was going to be big. which is crazy? And I don't mean that in a in a mean way exactly it's sort of like how the sort of tunnel vision when might sort of get with these these kinds of projects because this is not a commercial. No let's very long it's Vallon Collie and it's slow and it's sort of meandering and like it's not applaud a yeah I mean this is kind of a word of mouth movie exactly like a very I. I noticed this when when an actor director producer has this passion project when it comes out. It's always what they expected. The station period the tunnel vision everything. But there's also this idea that if it's very very urgent for oh you to make it. You assume that it's very urgent for everyone to see. which is that's a great point? That's that's probably the sort of the way she's thinking about it. I remember I read found some from Demi where he's like. The movie May twenty two million dollars. It played fine in eventually got pulled from theaters because Disney wanted the screens for the waterboy. Yeah which it's it's a whole other thing but like he's right like this movie for lease awards sort of like prestige failure because of cost eighty million dollars and was promoted by Oprah and making twenty two million dollars is kind of bizarre czar. Not a commercial film. Yeah I think the thing was that this was like the time between color purple in this film Oprah just has this meteoric arise and you know she was already a big deal but then she just becomes bigger and bigger and bigger culturally every year after that and she was this person who could kind of make anyone a star are you know could make any product successful successful. She could make careers singlehandedly and I think she believed even though this was difficult in in commercial material that if I devote a week of shows if I spend months talking about my involvement in this film that my audience will show up at my audience is so big that they will show up for this. Yeah well I think. That's a miscalculation of what people will read versus what they watch. But also there's the fact and I've I've been reading about this so it's fresh in my mind. When the Oscars decided to go from five to ten nominations is when more black films made their way into the Oscars before that it was like I think there were only like four films with primarily black casts? That were nominated paid for Best Picture I think it was like a soldier story Saunder Color Purple One ray. I think race the race break so it was like the thing about it. Is that now. It's normal to see like all of these like prestige black films of Bill Streak a talk doc in all of these things but in the time that this was made it did not have the kind of audience or the kind of award space that it would need need to really make impact. Yeah yes well I think that was also like part of the Calculus of when when there were black filmmakers making films with black cast. They would always hit a sort of glass ceiling in terms of Oscar credibility. where it's like Singleton can get the best director nomination but boys? The Hood is not going to get best picture. It's not GonNa get any acting nominations you know and do the right thing can get like screenplay but it's not gonna get director picture and the only cast member nominated is the white guy in the ninety s specifically here. No black films were nominated for best picture and also it was like black people were mostly out of the Oscars in the nineties. He's with a few caveats like one or two honorary awards. What's love got to do with it and like a couple of things like that but for some reason the entire ninety s mostly a blank spot and it's an interesting time because that was when a lot of interesting experimental black films were being made on any independent you have? You're just another girl in the Iot like you know. Cassie more right yeah Both thing I was going to say The the other movie I kept on thinking about in relation to this not as a film but as a cultural thing. is is Malcolm X.. where the movies announced and Warner Brothers says hired Norman Jewison who at that time was viewed as the ally filmmaker? He's the one filmmaker who makes films about about black people consistently and Spike Lee. Led this big outcry of like this should not be directed by a white man and it was like months of sort of like public. Sort sort of debate about it. And then Norman Jewison step down. Spike Lee made the film and the film was fairly successful. But it also was like you'd as oh it's Denzel thing and it didn't didn't get the Oscar. Nominations that it seemed to get you know it was him very deliberately trying to bring prestige prestige movie but there was always that ceiling to some degree oprah who is a very canny businesswoman. I wonder if she thought you need a white director with a proven Oscar acceptance since track records to be able to permeate that that this happened. Color purples I understand why she would think and she got Nas GonNa Mation of course first and let me read you something. I found a sort of summary of the coffee table book. Okay so there's a point. At which apparently oprah you you know. Her acting style is very empathetic. Very Bright. Like sort of emotional she's an emotional actress And at Demi diplomatically described arrived quote if Oprah had any work to do to not confuse her empathy. With how Seth Afield There was a scene in which seth describe what feel freedom feels like doc demi was shooting around her and then sat down with Oprah and said like. WE'RE GONNA turn the camera around and shoot Danny today and we'll do you. Tamar and Oprah was totally early crush. Because she's like I know I'm blowing this like fucking this up like Debbie was trying to be like sweet about it but like Oprah could tell like. They were kind of like. She's not figuring this out. She's she's just being Oprah and then Tony Morrison came to sat and watched one scene and said why are you playing angry. Here's that character is not angry in the scene. The like Jesus watching Oprah and she's like this isn't how I wrote this. Yeah and Winfrey freaked out. Winter trailer. Started crying it was like Tony hates me and and they had to be like Tony Go away. You're freaking her out like so like she was waking this movie. She was freaked out. She was like. I can't get this wrong. Yeah it's definitely it's it's fascinating stuff. Can I read you this quote that I found that I think is really interesting. This is talking about the movie in two thousand thirteen. Also says like it was her movie and if you if souvaltze strongly about something I was fine to defer because talking about this idea of like you know. Why did she think that this film could work on this budget? Level well at this size is a major Oscar right. Twenty Thirteen Winfrey reflect on the film. Saying to this day I ask myself. Was it a mistake. Was it a mistake to not try and make it a more commercial film to take some things out and tell the story differently so that it would be more palatable to an audience well if you want to make a film that everybody would see then that would be a mistake but at the time I was is pleased with the film that we did because it represents the essence of the beloved book which is a weird sort of like nether zone. This movie is caught in which like. It's a pretty literal faithful adaptation of a thing. That is hard to adapt literally it is pretty unsparing in terms of what it's doing and its lack of commercial concern turn. Its bullied by her confidence that she could make anything commercial. So it doesn't sort of play the audience in a way that a more sort of satisfying EP. EPA Oscar Film. That probably would not age. Well would have done at the time but it also is boosted up by the confidence of her being such an industry in and of herself off that she didn't even conceive of the idea that maybe the best way to make this movies for like five million dollars. You know even if it is with Demi to not burden it with that sort the pressure on itself I mean another thing. I kept thinking about watching. This is the UNMADE Lynne. Ramsay lovely bones where she talked about so much that she read that book she loved it. She bought the rights herself before the book became a big head and spent like eight years trying to make that film in her like sort of Netherlands orlands her career after more than Taylor and was pretty close to getting married and then Peter Jackson read the book. And I want this and Alyce bold like ripped ripped up the contract and was like well. He's Peter Jackson. We have to let him make it and tap and Lynne Ramsay talked. She was movie is Bonilla's Bet. A nightmare but Lynne Ramsay talks. She was like I loved the book but I also understood. There was no way to make a literal adaptation of it and the larger the scale and the budget became name the more you would have to distort what the book was actually about in order to make it more commercial and she was like my my version of it was very abstract which I think is the only anyway it would work and Peter Jackson talks about went like making the film like how many of his decisions were business-minded. I love this book but obviously that doesn't work in a movie that cost one hundred million dollars. You know that immediately that Calculus had to happen of like well they're letting me use all the CGI. I feel obligated to make a movie that could possibly do. Well all this contradictory thing with a book like this where you Kinda can't burden it with that. Just such a wild thing to hear from the person who made heavenly creature no but it's like what a great example of like you can't go home again you know when he announced that he was making that. You're like Oh my God is Peter Jackson GonNa go back to heavenly creatures mode and then you're like like we know like what is this so many special effects hundred million shipping bottled crashing through the window. All that shit like all the Mark Wahlberg Wahlberg seems very anxious to be in. He's just like why AM I. Here also plays right ten days before it started in films Ryan. Gosling was too fat but he got fat. Ah To make up for how young he felt. He was one of those things where people were like. I heard he got fired because he gained a weird amount of weight and then people were like no he didn't and then a year later yet. That's it was really weird. He felt like he was too young. Peter Jackson was like I think you're the guy he gained a lot of weight made himself look shitty. Try to look right. And then Peterson was like. And what's your take on the character and he's like it's like. It's like an overweight depressed. I like you grew a beard and got really soft right and then he was like this is not not my take on the character and then fired. Wow Yeah he's very weird. Yeah I the bigness of the like Blake. I I think I keep on thinking about like. I don't know like how I would imagine. Their eyes were watching. God which I feel like is like a very you know small personal personal story and I was just like Oh my God. What if their eyes were watching? God adapt tation like beloved at your so like. I'm actually surprised there. I guess it's just because Morrison has held onto a rights but that there hasn't been another marcin adaptation. Yeah I I would really like to be one now now that right right. There's a lot of trouble up there. swig yeah yeah. And they're just like us a lot of really interesting black women directors that are making like like dee rees. He's making mudbound like I feel like she could do a Tony. Morrison definitely yes. Oh Yeah Def definitely her. Yeah I I feel like it's the time and I kind of it's just I mean. I Love Toni Morrison. I like cried when she died. But it's like it would have been so great if we would have been able to get another one like right and that she could see but I think now would be a pretty opportune time to do it especially so that we can maybe move as much as I have issues with beloved. It was refreshing to watch it because it was not like all of the movies movies about cops that I've been seeing very tired of seeing cops like I would just love to see black people do something that has nothing to do with. Gertz hurts when he won bridges. The thing the twelve just about twenty run bridges. You know this right is that there are seventeen bridges in and out of neo and the movie was initially called seventeen. Bridges was about like you gotta raise all the bridge or whatever there are also four tunnels out of New York. So if you add it. You've got twenty-one exits right and I think they just suddenly announced that the movie is twenty one bridges. Yeah without explanation. What data cruncher was like audiences? Audience is like twenty one more than seventeen. Making happy should've been called seventeen bridges and four tunnels really specific to close their ears. That movie sixteen blocks seventeen teen bars. Bridges Tunnels Nineteen fairies. Keep going yeah and just kind tired like naomie Harris recently. which is another right like Tandy? Newton Kimberly Elise Naomie Harris. They were all kind of plugging looking away at around the same time. Yeah and so I was like Oh my God. naomie Harris is doing something posts moonlight lead role. Ever and then it's just like black and blue and it's like hurt tirees real crowdsource title to the cops and she's she's black. We're dead right the two of you seen that you've seen that film. I have not okay. I saw I saw shit. Because I'm a big NAOMIE Harris here. I also I. I'm quietly a huge Stan. Largely because of the fast and furious franchise is very funny but I always like like I wish he did more film work. Yeah baby boy I mean services started acting and he was like. Oh this is going to be something you know. What great tirees movie? You should watch watch. WHAT WAIST-DEEP I don't know if I realized recently because I was reviewing clean and slim waist-deep is the better? I I believe this Chris Hall Grass Hard even glitter follow. Like it's his first movie after Clinton so because glitter is so bad but waist-deep cheapest so good and gridlock funding Kirkstall Bondi. Yea Casey Lemon says yes I more so I I kinda like black and blue. Oh is it good. It's kind of good okay. Well I'm GONNA watch it. I was just like I'm GonNa Watch that shit on. Hbo It was just like okay. I'm going to the movies I'm GonNa see this thing about a cop again. Yeah totally but like I. That's it's good to hear that it's it's not great but but I think it's a pretty interesting. Also just yes if we can just keep talking about black actors who who like fully prove their heads and then get ignored by Hollywood David Yellow. Yes also didn't he have a cop movie this year with time. Travel or something he told. Let go right with storm. Reid wrinkle in time. Hi this is so weird. They're like do a big rollout for certain movies and they're just like you have to see this stuff like don't go boom houses like well here. It is Sir neared at Sunday title and it was a very different. It was called RELIV. When was it something from the director of Mean Creek? That's true I did not know everything about that. Movies weird and it was like a Weird Lum House dump that also wasn't released by universal missile. which almost every other blunt house film is That's weird yeah The the the other thing that that guy made was a movie called the details which has opposed to wear pianos and I was GONNA fall on. Toby Maguire's I've seen that one. You've seen this yeah. This does not seem like a real move. I watch a lot of not real like this seems like you would put the DVD in the DVD. It'd be like playing trailers and you keep pressing the DVD's like cannot perform functions. Where's the movie and it just it? Never those things are like toby. Maguire Maguire's like playing against type as a Dick. Then when you find out that he's kind of like a Dick and real life sharper not as interesting. Yeah tobey Maguire Elizabeth Banks Dennis Hayes. Burt Ray Liotta Carrie Washington or maybe. It's one of those like you know. They're those indie movies. I feel like at the beginning Sunday until it was like. Throw a bunch of actors in a thing and we're going to all watch it but now it's like throw a bunch of actors thing and nobody's GonNa Watch over three that they do but most of the more big name actors in Sundance movie in a way way more at signal that it's probably a Turkey. Yeah we're one with two really good performances. Yeah thinking of one like called like butter where it's about like butter. Sculpting competition blacklist script where everyone in the cast was like a huge name very much one of those that the happy Texas's accesses coming out of Sundance telluride or whatever and people are like. Oh this is no no. This is good. Hugh Jackman the fifth lead Yeah he's the I think he's the end. The got pretty much the only recent movie that I can think of where it's like throw a bunch of people in in it's good is like Logan Lucky. uh-huh creates hey great. Great Movie Soderbergh's good at that though and when he puts a lot of people in a movie. It's an ECLECTIC bunch like it feels like. He's curated pretty well right. Pass loved loved Daniel Craig's fake southern accent and didn't realize that the fake southern accent is just his thing now he loves it he wants to put it on like an old smoked jacket foghorn leghorn and I'm from Georgia and so I'm like oh I'm like a cop of Lancashire southern accents what region it gets away with it. We're just being there's today. He's he's so strange commits to it. So my right and I also think that he's tired of being boring. I feel like I never wanted to be James Bond. If I can help it I want to be as Goofy as wannabe funny. Here's some of the things about couple of I want to tell you can start one question very quickly about knives out before we move on. Or why doesn't he have a moustache in that. Maybe they put one autumn. It looks look terrible. Looked good with a mustache before he should have a must be watching. That performance needs a mustache. Maybe just for the film well L. Doing is just because then it's to Paro like it's like what's Paro favors for the stash. Maybe you could give them a different mustache. I'd settle for a beard or goatee a van. Dyke Remember how Alec Obviously Perot. He's got the most Finney when he does it. He's got a little moustache. Curled right and then so brannagh was rather than scaled back. We're scaling mustaches. Mustaches right. It's a double layer moustache. So maybe they saw that and we're like no. We can't top that biggest complaint with knives out it is. I'm watching and I'm like that. Is Daniel hero so needs a moustache. I need to have that face. A little hidden hills was the original choice to play. Beloved interested. Interesting had to drop out because she was pregnant. Large pregnant obviously had several children would have been. She's great in lake the few movies that she said yes she is and this is sort of the end of Lauryn Hill as like major star before her public wreck. Lose right yeah Let's see right. This was right at the time she was at the top of the world puzzle. Sister Act two. She's great to this is to better. This is direct act one. I think their different move and different moves in different tones. Yeah Rachel Portman did two scores for the film and one of them was entirely thrown out. Wow I don't know I don't have a lot here that's actually. It's actually all the trivia I found out how would you have shot it. Of course Demis Usual Guy Gary. I don't know it came on October. Made a little bit of money. Gone Else. Goes eight a lot of MAC and cheese and felt really bad she said we'll get to the buckeyes. I've never had a child and this is the closest thing I have a child and the movie that yeah I feel like now. The Perspective on beloved is like it's not a bad movie. It's an interesting artifact of its time I'm yeah it's a bit of a noble failure. Perhaps ray like it's like you watch it and you're like Oh my God what a train wreck like. It's more just sort of like. Oh I can see why this it didn't work. I can see here. Anyone ardently defending it. No but it's not like it's like people roll their eyes and go. Oh it was an oprah vanity thing being no not. It doesn't have that. Yeah and I don't really think her choices were really driven by vanity. No no I think she just didn't know. Oh how to make something small at this point and I think she wanted Tony Morrison to have an adaptation that big. Yeah you know I think there was a certain ability in in her saying this needs to be a major film. This needs to be a major studio picture. Yeah it but then you watch the movie and like the second second shot in. It is a dog being slammed against the walls I military with the IPO. Yeah the the the sort of off the milking cause almost immediate. Yeah I mean some of the most intense stuff is very early on. I thirty minutes. You're like this move your shing piecing remember that. Ah this him making the visceral. Yeah I love bugs on a person I love that trick candyman. Great Movie When he has all the bees on those yappy like you can't fake that? Yeah maybe now you could back in court and so he just has fucking bs on the two thousand Horror movie where the bugs keep on landing on the woman's high the bugs keep on something from later being sounds horrible forgetting to put sugar all over. The bug lands on blink whenever something But yeah it does settle down after that. Yeah Yeah and that becomes mostly about two people people in House to house path but then there's the very long flashback sequence with The Lisa Hamilton. No no no no well at Lisa table tennis young beloved but the Denver is not young beloved owning your. She's good actually ten years years. Younger than Oprah. It's kind of a choice to have someone play that character like you. Compare this to the Irishman right. Where they're like no it has to be the same person playing Every age technology be damned. I loved it at least the Gay Hamilton to also think that she looks close. Enough to Oprah where sense. It's just funny that like Ah that even if the characters ten years younger you cast a different person. I missed that. Bring that back. I look having multiple actors. Play the same care. It's great and lone light. I don't forget this is the whole thing. I don't mind the Irishman do your thing. It's fine yeah the shot but it's like we are all used to cinematic convention of like. I understand that this is younger. Yeah it's it's been done for a hundred years we're used to and I also understand that if you put a Shitty Whig Robert De Niro. I'll go okay I get it. He's fifty now. They can play the fifth year old version. If you want to see him beat the shit out of someone on a curb maybe you want to hire a young guy. Yeah that I love Pat. I loved the movie but I also saw it like drunk at Alamo draft house work or I watch movies in the middle of the night and it was just I mean it was so great but I feel like if I was watching it at home in a net flicks environment where I could pause then. I would've noticed so I kind of want to go to rewatch talk about that scene and I don't remember being sets. The guide scares his daughter. And Yeah then people post the gift and I'm Mike. Yeah okay. I see that. He's like a mile off the guy's face when he kicks. It can't punches the guy in the Godfather and misses him. I think that speaks thanks to the immersion of watching something in a theater. Where you're like so involved in the story that by the moment seem like that happens? You are caught up in the context of the thing. And you're not as focused on the details whether whereas if you're watching it on Netflix and so three and a half hour movie and you're probably checking your phone a bunch and taking breaks and watching with other people are talking or whatever it is by the time it seemed comes up. You're like what the fuck is going on. Those are not the shoulders a thirty year old. Man uh-huh yeah. which are you talking about again? Ken Is kicking in beloved. Oh Hamilton Amy Denver. The white woman who say extra long aries. Okay okay. It's so weird out of all of the flashbacks to spend so much time on the white woman one such the weirdest choice and it feels almost like a dream. You're like who is this character. Yes I know. It's in the book I know. That's why she and this character is so big lectures making me. Think Amy Poehler performed over here come over here. You know all that things happen but like in terms of like the things that we need to know about that is that right. That's not the traumatic part is what she's she better a wild white lady who had a boat. I mean that's how Denver was named. But that's something that you mentioned in a book like it makes sense in the book but in the movie The movies like Doc why is she called Denver right and it's also just like the milk sue what's interesting reading the book. Is that the buildup to finding out about her milk getting taken and her being assaulted. There's a lot of build up to it. When she reveals that she's very upset? The aftermath of it is really. That's a big deal and in the movie. It's just like this weird bizarre flashback. And it's like no. This was an assault and this needs time. The feels so much more stylized than the president has styles. Yes that scene where like wes. Bentley and Ju- chicken cello are looking looking on in horror at her having murdered child. Yeah they're mostly focuses on their faces also think that scene is sort of strangely caliber. Let's see I think they're all strangely cal performances. News also We haven't talked at all about Hill Harper who is kind of like a big deal in the nineties and really is not a big deal anymore but but he'll harper plays her place. Halley plays her her ex. The one shirts are yes and I obviously feel like there should have been more time with have held very little of that. That's the thing in the book. There is like you learn about their entire courtship and then basically like I mean the movie says it's like he goes crazy because because he sees this terrible thing happened to her in part of it is because he realizes he cannot protect her. And so that's a whole. It's like oh I cannot protect this woman I don't how can I build a life with her if I can't protect her from these people if I can't give her a home if I can't make her feel safe like that's a whole thing and I think so. Much of absurdities trauma is like tied up in that that I just think that it deserved more time and there needs to be less time with kind of like the sensationalism of that and they treat it sort of just like a plot twist without ever giving you any sense of who he was as a guy. Yeah he he was like a great guy like the way that she like. She loved him very much and like he deserts her. I mean she's angry and she has a right to be angry with heat. Deserts her because he realizes how powerless. Let's see as as a black man and how he cannot be the kind of husband that he wants to be for her. And I think that he'll harper could have done that work if they would have given him space to do that. Work with that thing like if you show him at his best if you have any scenes of him and young Sata where you understand their relationship ship his absence will mean more to the audience than just having him exist as a name. That's mentioned with sort of resentment. You know you WANNA be able to dramatize is why he was important. Yeah it's also wild that the first scene in the movie is He. He's her son's running away because it's so disorienting to have that be the first thing in the movie. Is that the first thing the book. I don't remember that absolute i. It's early it's early. She mentioned it but the sun's moving away isn't like a super her over shows up. He's like I get it. Yeah you ought to live in a haunted which is scary yeah. The Sun's moving away was a weird way to start at the opening is just very disorienting. Perhaps intentionally and the rest of the movie is not no. Yeah the rest of the movies much a room initiative of and like exposition of given out. you know Albert Hall shows up. He's good unfolds. The little newspaper you know I. I like those scenes. Fine Yeah is there anything else we I like. I like the go surf the best just because I like go stuff. There should have been more ghost stuff. That feels the most cinematic. That's most unique to this work being translated into this medium right. Let's play a box of okay now. I know what beat it. Because when Oprah tells her story about how depressed she was no you don't think you know oh was that not number one. Her the anecdote was she said. I just remember that weekend when it came out being told you're getting beaten by something called Chucky and I was so depressed. Nate forty pounds of MAC and cheese. You're telling me. The bride of Chucky was not number one at the Fox number. Two okay bride of Chucky opened that week to eleven million dollars okay. It's a fun the movie. Yeah Good Tom. John Waters in to chucky films. He's also ends and seed or what That movie came out and made eleven million dollars. I guess the top five of Griffin's creeped who knows the box office from every single weekend box office. That's a beloved opened at number five. It's the number five. It opened to eight million dollars in mid October. Crazy ended up at twenty two and performed for say that they're the claim was does. The film was not connecting Disney had the waterboy which was coming out was tracking very big so they want to hand over screens. Yes what they promised Oprah and Demi was that they were GonNa Take Hake the movie out of theaters primarily and then when they expected that the Oscar nominations would come in they would re release the did do but much smaller than probably they released in March after it only gotten one nomination which is best costumes. And it didn't additional like three hundred thousand dollars at number twelve. The box office was done but opening weekend. Okay and bride of Chucky indeed number two number you comic take on the truck it was being by Chucky just not in. I don't exactly but number one I just like you're saying is something called chucky movie that I really like ooh They sent a book. It's a new movie this week. Okay to actress. What do you do this weekend? Thirteen thirteen. It's not a huge weekend. It's October October. It's not like a hot time. It is the spooky movie. Sort of. Not a horror film Harz too strong okay I would say Spooky Spooky Made Forty six million dollars in America. Eventually they book to Women Star Female Stars practical magic spectacle. Mets practical madge. What do we think a practical man never seen can't rude? I know you love it. It's a it's a wine us. Let's bring the girls it's it's a Nancy Meyers movie. Except it's about two can't stop killing and resurrecting boyfriend always said Griffin Dunne is the Wino- Nancy Meyers genuinely like both of them are basically like I just keep nope either killing or resurrecting my boyfriend. Yeah and these dark forces that I'm allied with are really fucking up my plan to raise a kid and and leaving a nice house sounds pretty impractical. The May so practical magic number one Sandra bullock and Nicole Kidman more sort of her served sultry phase. Nicole Kidman number three is an animated film. Okay I'm just giving you that to see aunts. Yes yes I figured. That's all you needed. Yeah aunts man that that soundtrack was burning up my disc man at that record score for ants. Listen to it all the score France great question. That's a movie that I have trouble re watching surname. Is there anyone weird involved with it or anything like that. It's also a very sexual movie once you realize like once you're an adult and you realize what everybody's talking about and specifically who is talking and just like kids say this. I think it's a war film written by Chris. Weitz and Paul Lights It is very bizarre. Katzenberg was famously on one in the nineties about Dr Fuck Pixar right right like he when Pixar can with toy story and he was like. Oh Oh my God. Here's a new animation studio. That doesn't have the reputation that Disney does. He was like I WanNa make a very adult animated film almost fucked up toy story and then they backed off and Rican in control over it so then when he goes over to dreamworks aunts feels like him being like see. This is what I was trying to make the whole time. And everyone's like okay. It also looks terrible. Looks Real crunchy. Cgi I've wanted to beat a bug's life even though they started animation a year after bugs life and now L. A. Bug's life isn't even really that well regarded so all I know it's crazy although bug's life slaps but yes answers very weird number three at the box. Okay who the composers to Henry Gregson Williams will hair. He goes by Harrods. Sorry but yes. That's one of the two. Yeah Fuck there I mean give me some credit for getting one of the tail. Good job the second one more or less of a name similar. It's not it's not. David Newman though but that vibe. It's not Debbie though that David David Newman type he's still working. He's a guy. He's like a replacement level composer. Replacement level can post it. You know what I mean I. I've actually liked some scores. He's done has he ever got an Oscar nomination that I'm GonNa have to look once what's his best score and other animated score it's another animated score. Yes and it's not a Disney New York Pixar. I would imagine Dreamers much like this it's a dreamworks was Prince of Egypt though her. This is taking too long. Hi It's John Powell. I was like this is actually not that interesting interesting Jump Bow Dragons. Love had nice school. It's a good score. That's the thing everyone loves in that movie. Yeah Yeah your total freak. Anyway we'll be ounce the star of the movie is fucking insane got ebbs. And we're also silvester slogan for Lopez Gene Hackman it has like a complete residual and Bancroft Sharon stone. Everyone's like playing cover danny and gloves and I remember the scene where he has to become a soldier ant and they have to go fight. The Termites Termites are like ten times bigger than them. I was like this is. This is wild like this. This kind of grim. Dan Ackroyd and Jane Curtain Play Waas. Yeah the joke is that they're wasps and also there Is Pretty good eventually. Get like stopped by a sneaker. It's really weird skirts. Pretty good number. Four okay is big comedy. Gene huge comedy of the Year Action Comedy Rush Hour. Yes that's correct. Yeah sh around the table Chris. Tucker Tom Wilkinson concern of course I don't remember who else the second disgusting he's A. He's a terrible person. Go to jail. You know he can tell you how we know actually cute well. Well my my dad and my dad loves sports scores. Read them with my brother. I didn't like sports. The equivalent became me and my father reading the box office together every Monday morning before I went to school because their emotional connection and I still not mostly what my father had talked about what. We're still constantly talking at the box office. Although David and I do that now as well we we spend an hour on Saturday night texting about the box. Office performance of the playmobil movie. Oh my that movie that movie it have you seen I have not have you. I cling to want to now only because it's bellyflop so hard I don't I don't know why they why they decided to make it especially because like the second. lego movie didn't do well. Well the second major movie movie a job well only two of them did. Well should've stopped. Lego Batman. Lego Batman was great local batmans masterpiece. Yes thank if you're perfect opinions but no I. They announced this movie right after the first Lego movie got made and the playable movie has gone through six directors rectors and twenty-seven writers and four release date shifts. It's so funny because I didn't know what it was and I moved in with my boyfriend and he put like these like little figurines on the bookcase playing and I like I took a picture of them and I was just like Kyle has legos and then somebody was just like a bunch of people are going to get very mad at you. You Play Mobile. I don't know who the different minutes Louis people people with faces different faces though I did not know that they were until somebody on. Twitter told me mostly a European. I've never had played reveal. I had a ton of them but I I to having a European mother I flinched Mama. Kyle spend a lot of his time in the Netherlands which may be experienced from some of the other movies. It's just a great ninety s week Practical Magic and bright of Chuck having during ninety eight and often rush hour. Everything what dreams may come. Oh Robin Williams goes goes to heaven. I've seen that look like a big loop another loop passion project sort of you Ellie flop although it did better yeah it did. It's kind of a dreary movie. Yeah it is a night at the Roxbury. Yeah it's a Hobo. Is this a movie. I loved to Rehash who made it well credited director or is like someone but the actual. I believe the story now is that in really aiming heckling actually directed it. Yeah I've seen and all the uh stuff going on with that. Yeah Urban legend Oh what if there was horror about those stories here I love bad horror. We're franchises and I can't deal with urban legend at all little booth concept is just on grasp. -Able it's kind of urban. Legend is kind of like candyman demanded that it's like academic right. It's like she's a student and she's investigating these stories. We tell the candy is like she's investigating a specific folk tale. Religion is just like like you know like a story of like. There's a guy in the back seat like what if that was a hard guy knows you. The most interesting thing about those movies is that Loretta Devine is in more than one of them. We cut yes. She's in the first one and she's in the second one enough. Yeah him to rated fun. You know dumb yeah it also barred action movie yeah and then Holy Man Taber Guru. I've never watched that all the way through and I also mix it up a lot with the golden child. 'cause I'm sure that's true. He's made sort of multiple apple special special one movie felt like to like he was on such an incredible comeback around him and then it was like nutty professor. Doc Do little eddies back. Fuck what's this. And then he makes this movie with like the Barcode. WHO's into this every ten years? The lovers another one. We're like let's do a guru movie. No one likes even if you're making fun of them. Yeah Anyway Yeah we did the bucks game. We don't talk about. I believe it. Yeah I think it's it's it's I think it's an interesting movie. That's sort of what they're fascinating things about it. They're good performances. What is in it but it does not all the way come together? I was sort of firing it up not knowing quite like but I was like you know who I know. There are people who value this movie. They're definitely heard people bull likes her. Singapore maybe this is one of those kind of buried gem type movies but not not quite no no. And you're like you know probably the thing. Now how would be for Oprah to get rights to do more of the people who do the Mon- own miniseries and I desperately want her to produce movies again. Mostly because of the two headed monster that is Lee Daniels and Tyler Perry driving the same. We need to throw women in and they're just like I'm tired also. Did you see I mentioned this before. We started recording. That Lee Daniels is doing the terms of endearment remake. Make with Oprah and I'm just like why Lee Daniels of all can someone please stop for TV. No you're doing it. The WHO's playing daughter. Have they announced. Detaches Oprah like God does not know this but he is currently made. He's filming a Billie holiday movie. Hey believe is due out this year I mean next with who playing Billie holiday Someone Andhra Day. Oh yeah she's like big again like a kind of like theatre music circles on chef like that I so I'm assuming she's being chosen for her. Yeah she can tramonte roads as in Eh Randolph is in it. I don't know might be Natasha. Leone isn't it. Hey really. So he's back back in the movie. Yeah they've been but he's been producing stuff it's like him and Taylor the big too like they throw their weight behind something. It's going to happen. And then Oprah does every once in a while but it's almost like she's just like a little gun shy because of what happened with being did she produce some was she looking executive producer. She was like in Selma like that's the kind of stuff that I walked from. Her Alma is great. She's great and Selma's it's her finding very interviewer director. Who's ever made a movie of that scale? But he's obviously talented getting into the studio system. You want her to sort of extend her power in that kind of way right because I think like AAC in terms of like own own has been really great in terms of getting a lot of like female filmmakers into direct episodes of Greenleaf in Queens sugar. And it's just like okay like put them on a big screen. You sort of have a farm team now who you should be able to other movies. She recently produced the hundred foot journey. Yes I did I did see that and I was confused by the book. Club is a book okay Sushi options now but she loves movies. Harpo films has produced beloved great debaters. There's precious underfoot journey. Selma and precious was her in Lee Daniels coming on as producers. After the movie was bought at Sunday I believe that's the weird thing was it. It was like it was push right. It was like never forget that that movie had to change. Its title because of the Superhero Movie. Push starring Chris Evans. Everyone's favorite third favorite Chris Evans Superhero Franchise. So yeah I came like when I decided to come on to talk about this movie. I came on ready. Guns blazing beloved best movie movie ever like and then like I and then I re watched it knows just like not quite but I'm glad that we're talking about it and if you WANNA revisit you'll there's things to find an and thank you so much for coming on episodes you're Dane. People should listen to bad. Romance pod. you hugh and Brahmin Aerial Isaac. WHO's a great comedian? And we I'm trying to think by the time this episode comes out. We'll have already done our live show because it's January but we're doing a live show where redoing Love Actually at Union Hall. So after so I mean. I hope that you went to maybe a film that I presume. If you're covering on the podcast you have similar opinions to David Nye. Yes it's toxic waste. Yes we're yeah we the same way about it. It's a psychological healthcare. Yes yes very much. So the movie but fun fun to bounce it off of that one anyway. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so much able to follow you on twitter. What's your handle at J. O. U. R. Haiwaii N Because the proper spelling of my name has been taken since two thousand dollars? But you know maybe. Aren't they going to free up. Somebody OUGHTA gals John Waiting to get saw that I wanted to like petition. Someone be like. Hey Hey who do I talk to David L.. Sam Yeah yes gotten used to. It's my middle. Follow me on twitter. There's a picture of me when I'm three years old. Yes I got glasses when I was three years old. He's very cute. And you're all over the place. Yeah I'm writing I'm doing Steven Universe recaps at a v Club right now Writing About By the time this'll be out my queen and slim piece will we'll be out working on some other things and the piece that I kept referencing about this decade in black film will be out by then definitely check that out and it's a a new decade now right now. I mean that's crazy. We'll be in the new decade twenty twenty every will be so clear to us see great things. Oh great yeah. It's going to be instantaneous. I think the ball will drop and I won't go. Oh Bank account we should. Hey Okay thank you all for listening. Please remember to rate review subscribe. Thanks to integrate of her social media America first theme Song Joe Blow Him for our work goto blankets dot com for some real nerdy shits. Next week talking truth about arly with Dave lowry fooled. Tricked you He's back on the show talk about that. Incredibly incredibly strange beer extremes go to keep keep trucking. Keep trickling dummy. Your Debbie are we. Are we onto toy story commentaries by this point or are we still Colin Star Wars. Now we're still on star wars check out the Patriots. We're talking wars baby or back in the wars. Maybe we're going to Disneyworld soon. I hope so guide we. We have to talk about this great all right the episode. Okay all right I I and as always we gotta talk about intense now. Okay by the best thing about that movie. Is that the girl who things all I want for Christmas. Is You goes onto voice marceline on adventure time really. That was my introduction to her selene. The Vampire Queen. Yeah how I met. I met her at Dragon Con fan girl Princess Bubblegum Guy. My face face. Yeah good ruler. A good ruler tries to be all of her citizens are Candy Lawrence one point when she turns back into a baby with that. I'll totally herself come back talk about events.

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