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"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

The Final Furlong Podcast

05:21 min | 3 weeks ago

"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

"The job done. And I think 2021 is a fair price on your return. So that's who I'm going to go for. Overall selection for you, my friend. Yeah, I'm going to be really boring. And I absolutely see your argument for broome and the fact that he will be very, very dangerous if he gets an uncontested lead. I just don't think Colin Keane will let him too far out of his sight to be honest. So at the risk of being really boring, I'm going to go for westerner. Nothing wrong with that. By the way, get that if you fancy broom like me and seeing as time forms Mark Milligan is here, the time form ratings, one 33 about westover, no pee on that, just one, three, three. It doesn't mean you can't improve. It's just the same form of opinion. And that sets a very good standard. Make sure if one three 5 Emily Upjohn is one two 7 with the P one three four four took a tasso one two 9 of a broom. It's a blanket over these horses. This is not a whole lot between them. And that's great. Because the official ratings are very much similar to that. It's one 25 about miss riff one 20 about westover, same rating for broom. There's nothing between them. So this could go either way and the tactical implications of this are fascinating. So a 1.2 million pound race, I'm saying it goes to broome, westover is the worst for Mark Milligan, and they're the ones who will be on the lead. Or at least pressing the leader, will make it west over should be sitting second or third, and expect him to make his move off the final turn. The question is, can the others make their move as well? We shall see. That is the king George live on ITV best to look to edit the team. As they covered, you can hear it on talk sport two with myself and Martin dwyer, who, of course, would be writing in the race were it not for that pesky injury. To York to York I hear you say, good to firm ground there as well. And I have news for you. We will be running a competition for tickets to the cool more non Thorpe day at the ybor festival. You're living in York, Mark Milligan. I'd like relatively close to York. So you and your final fall on baseball cap. Embroidered final for long baseball cap may very well be meeting up with winning listeners to the final forum. I'm not sure, I'm not sure it solves it as an entirely attractive proposition if meeting me is part of the prize, but you know, each scenario. I think what we'll do will give you the honor of buying Mark Milligan a pint. Yeah. So tickets courtesy of ourselves at the final front of podcast and our good friends at York racecourse, William Darby, and the team, best of luck to you. We'll give you details how you can win very soon. Right here on the final from a podcast, you and a friend off to the cool non Thorpe day at the York ybor festival and of course we'll give you a full previews and coverage. Of the meeting itself, also on a side note, Ben Aiken here on Monday, his pace analysis draw bias analysis was all absolutely top class for royal ascot and he's back to preview glorious Goodwood so we're going to do that on Monday. Mark will be here to preview glory Goodwood as well. We have a review of the RS jokes. Don't think we forgot that. Just because we did a special on the whip with the professor, and thanks again to mount O'Brien. That was a hugely successful podcast number three on Apple podcasts. Thank you so so much in the sports category. It's not exactly going to be in the filament television category. Although it might very well have been given the start of this show. So thank you for listening. If you haven't listened to it yet, by the way, if you thought to yourself, oh, I won't bother. There's it's a really interesting conversation. He is the independent chair of the BHA's ethics committee as well. So he's family is steeped in horse racing. His cousin's train race horses, he grew up around race horses. Trust me, you want to listen to that show. Particularly with how he's how he's mentioning the outside forces of racing that are using the whip pardon the poem to beat racing with. So we're listening to if you are worried about the whip if you're worried about implications of the web consultation report, this is a very, very good conversation to hear. So that's available for you now and Spotify Apple podcasts and all podcast apps, tune in as well who are great supporters at the front from podcast. Thank you very, very much. So you can listen to that now, but we'll be reviewing the Irish oaks, the king George, and others Monday and Galway with Denis Oregon. Previewing Galway free as well. So we've got it all sorted for you. Galway, Goodwood, all coming up here on the final front of the podcast and competitions to get you to York as well. Speaking of York, the jump jockeys handicap. Kevin Ryan and Brian Hughes, I could have done that accent better. Ginger jam, I think it might have been more Manchester. Ginger jam is the

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"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

The Final Furlong Podcast

04:39 min | 4 months ago

"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

"Suppose that's just that's just the authorities doing what they have to do. You know, is in the half the partnership part of that. And that's it. I mean, all in all, I think entry deserve an awful lot of credit. You know, just to do. Did you just do? It's not an easy job. It's very well run. The ground is usually beautiful. I wasn't really happy with it this year on the actual financial course, but look, if I got around, I wouldn't be given out about the ground, but I was given out about it a little bit of time. It was a little bit on the quick side and it was a novel and a pace in the race to share it all that should have had it slower. That grand national is still the grand national. I don't care what to say about the pencils. They're not used to jumping them to our fences at that speed. So the result was going to be carnage. There's always going to be fathers. And look, there will be more modifications down the road. I read somewhere the other day where they might change it from farc runners to bring it down a bit, but look, I think entry served great credit for what they did throughout the week. I know how hard it is to run the run race course. I know the troubles I've had in the past. I've seen the emails they've had. I've seen the trouble they've been in. And well done them. That's my view on it anyway. Well, done them. Fully echo flip flop on the basis of new evidence of what you had to say. And completely agree with you. And also credit to intrigue for everything that they do for Liverpool, because it's so massive for the city. Obviously, they've got two, if you want to include a trimer three, but you've got Liverpool and you've got Everton and that's obviously going to drag in massive tourism, but the grand national meeting is attracting thousands of people to Liverpool. And the hotel industry, the service industry, the nightlife, and it's all benefiting greatly from it. Nightclubs are packed, pubs are packed, restaurants, are booked out. It's remarkable, and it's a fantastic place to go to one of my favorite race courses, so well done to them. It really is. Listen, Dennis, we're so relieved that you're okay. And fantastic that you were able to have a couple of spins. Today as well, as you were writing, as we record on Monday, releasing it on Tuesday morning. But your analysis, as always, top class, my friend. And very much looking forward to chatting to you again very soon on the final front of podcast. Pleasure, Emma, thank you very much for having me all the best. Denis Oregon absolute hero, absolutely legend and safe and sound as well for that matter too, which is more important. That's it. We are back on so there's a couple of specials coming your way. We have the Ed O'Brien stable tour is available for you right now. We have a special on resource ownership with some Hoskins, which I think you're going to really enjoy listening to Sam does not hold back in his views. So that's going to come out during the week. And then we'll be previewing the Irish grand national meeting. I'm at the Irish poker open. I'll be commenting on that all week alongside Vincent Gavin, so by all means, tune in, watch. We'll post links on Twitter and on Instagram as to how you can see what we're doing and we'll be talking about some of the best in the game there. I'm really looking forward to going jumping into the deep end of the pool and getting right back into the world of poker, we're doing a cash game on the Wednesday evening and then it's tournament poker all the way through then. Right from the Wednesday. So yeah, I'm very much looking forward to that. And we'll be we might do a special podcast there. And then we're reviewing fairy house and the Irish grand national meeting as the grand nationals keep on coming our way with Darren from all about Sunday on the Tuesday and we'll get to find out more about how the open date went as well. We're also going to get to find out who's won podcast of the year. Dennis was saying, you know, it only matters about jockeys only care about grade ones. The entries have now closed. So thanks to everybody who voted as the SBC sports podcast of the year, we find out at the end of the month. One note until then, up against some very good shows, but I know we got a lot of great support. We don't have a marketing team where a CEO can send out an email and say, follow these instructions and vote for these..

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"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

The Final Furlong Podcast

02:13 min | 4 months ago

"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

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"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

The Final Furlong Podcast

03:44 min | 4 months ago

"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

"It back a couple of times as we didn't really give them as much credit as actually for algorithm. It was because he was severely hampered at the second fence as rawley says doesn't win too often. But it's been also a start he was running in a silly aisle to grade one behind lung press with pictorial and said obviously that reforms were really well since. It literally destroyed the ditch that they didn't they? The last time in the mainland for a big field and I was concerned, but also stamina before and then how we would cope with the situation but drop them back and trip out the marginally be ridden a bit more positively on Friday. Yet to win all offenses. So again, like we're already said long run it from now last fence on the national floor. So desire to win will be tested birth. You can see him travel and well and surely you'll trade pretty sure also at some points in the races because I can see him getting into a nice rhythm. And he did rule one of them in the last series for two and a half mile. Handicap it. It'll be in Toronto. The open the card on this same card last year. He was just a neck behind Edward stone on that occasion in what was a strong release. So I can definitely see reasons why he deserves to be towards out of the market and take on board what he says about his prospects of not winning too often. I'll give you the try guys. Very briefly. 5 star getaway. We're all rendezvous. To the big one, the grand national. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to ask all three of us for a horse and see if we're in agreement. We want a short list of 5 from you. So Paul. A short shortest 5 from all of us pulling our resources or 15 horses. 5 horses. From each individual and then we'll knock it down. We're going straight to the next level and miss any other races. Well, double back. Any other business, but the grand national is too important. It needs full coverage. So Paul Ferguson, your first source for the grand national. The first three are my left colonial one, obviously. I put up three in the 80s section. So that's the good answer to top my shortlist. And I will start with fiddler on the roof. Rory. Our new agreement. Oh, this is one of those is it. It's just that it's just I'm an agreement, yes he can win or he would be on the short list. He's the only shortlist. He's not on my short list. Okay, all right. Who is. The first person my shortlist is distal Rama? Okay. First one on my shortlist is now favorite delta work. Paul. What are we doing? I agree. Moving on to our second choice. Move on to your second question. I'm confused. The agreeing thing didn't work very well. I don't want to agree with Rory. I agree with yours. We have a nice second now. Give us your second. Give us a hand. Okay. I'll stick sales stick with my original three first of the article of anti post. I'll go with ask Garrett. Yeah. Like a scary ten until Denis Oregon gave me a stern warning about him. The other day, which was that. He said he's a funny horse who doesn't jump well enough. And he said he shows nothing at home. But he does improve when he's.

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"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

The Final Furlong Podcast

06:53 min | 5 months ago

"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

"Went in as the better horse. And he was sent off over it as well. We should remember too. So the market did come from. So there is may very well have booed him. But they're the ones who made the decision to run them and Gordon produced him to perfection. Watering was a very controversial topic. Paul Nichols was amongst those to criticize it. Was the criticism of the clerk of the course unfair in your view? Well, he did. He didn't actually get that much criticism, I don't think. Normally when water is put on and then it rains, they really get stuck in. I mean, Andrew Cooper, oaks day, got an absolute shellacking because he'd been watering in the build up to the meeting and he said he couldn't have foreseen the amount of rain that fell on out. So that's the nearest comparison I can remember. Chairman was an undulating track where horses go faster than they really ought to. Generally speaking. And it's a track that has within it inherently greater risk of catastrophic injury and it's beholden on the sport to try and reduce that risk. It can't eliminate it, but to try and mitigate against that risk as best possible. That doesn't mean it has to produce soft ground. It just has to produce safe ground. And I think it's reasonable that they aim for good to soft on the first day. What you could argue is that John paulin would have been within his rights to put a little bit more water on before the first day and to create ground that was genuinely good soft. I'm perfectly happy with the way the ground was on the first day, but there were many, many more trainers unhappy at how it was riding at the back end of Tuesday than there were trainers who were unhappy with how it was riding midway through Wednesday when they were in the middle of a downpour. So if there was a possibility of either no rain or just a mill or two with sprinkling on the Wednesday, then I think he had no choice, but to water on Tuesday night given given what then took place. It was academic. There was so much rain then on Wednesday it wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference, whether he'd walked it or not. But it is an interesting debate as to how you should start the meeting. And whether the ground on Tuesday was in fact a fair bit quicker than the description that was given at the outset. But John Paul would not be the first mark of the course at cheltenham and Simon clay's had this for years, 1617 years of calling it good to soft on the first day. He reasonably warm is trying by the time you get around to supreme novice turtle time and you get good horses on it, they're running good ground times or quicker. Yeah. And of course, Shelton drains so well too. Nichols said, if he understood why Jean Pauline had done what he did, no, not at all. From Sunday on the forecast was going to be very west today and why water when you've got a wet day forecast. I'm not getting into any arguments. Actually, our poll. About that. But sometimes it's hard. It's a hard job. I wouldn't want to be the clerk of the course. I don't think Paul Nichols, particularly wants to run as a child. He took a Mac fabulous. He took out brave man's game. I think that when he strutted up to Jess and John dance and Brian drew to say Brady man's games out, oh, we can't run now. I think he was delighted. I think he was thrilled with himself. But I will say this, Denis Oregon said, look, anybody who's complaining about the ground shouldn't be competing in children because he looked up the forecast and went to the BBC. And the best case scenario was a 40% chance of rain on the day. So he said they were perfectly entitled to water. And The Rain that fell, it was forecast to fall overnight. It didn't. There was no guarantee that was going to fall on the day. So he was strongly in agreement with the clerk of the course. Strongly in disagreement and called out Paul Nichols actually on the final for long for having a pop. Well, I'll just looking at brave man's games form again. What actually appears in the form book is that slight right angles to the narrative leading into the race. Now, admittedly, he's done quite a lot of his racing in newbury where, in recent seasons, the ground even when it's soft has not got that soft. But he did win the grade one cello heard long ground described officially as soft. It was much quicker when he then got beaten at cheltenham by bob bollinger. He won the grade one Felton chase, his most impressive performance of a fence is so far on ground, officially described as soft when the times were really slow. It was horrible ground at kempton on boxing day. 25, 25 seconds slower than standard, the quarter star, where he thumped the subsequent Brown advisory runner up ahoy senor by 7 and a half lengths. So I wonder if Paul had had it two winners on Tuesday and star whatever the thing of what was that nice horse that won the chalet this year? What was it called? A stage star. Stage star. If that horse was, again, you couldn't, you couldn't deduce anything from the way he ran. He pulled like a Mustang and just fell in a hole for out. You know, I heard a windows have a turbo record. Harry, Harry cobden says that the ground was heavy. As Venetians pointed, I don't think it was. I think it was just very wet in the conditions weren't very nice. Yeah. I was kind of disappointed he didn't run brave man's game. I get it and he come out and win at entry and it'll look like the right decision, but again, the evidence of brave man's games form doesn't necessarily back up the narrative that this is a horse who wants lovely good, quick ground. You know? So I understand why Paul was disappointed. I don't really think I read something I read some click bait headline. The popped up on my Facebook timeline or whatever saying furious trainer storms at cheltenham. He didn't do anything of the sort. He was frustrated and he was a bit bristly, but he wasn't, he wasn't really having that big a go. He wasn't sounding off. He just was expressing a bit of a difference of opinion. You know, I've seen I've seen Paul get cross and I thought he I thought it was, I thought it was pretty moderate really. I really did. Go on. Do you remember him bawling? And it's the only way to describe it. Sam Thomas after the potato race before Sam Thomas was taking the ride on denman. No, 'cause I didn't, I didn't see that. No, no, I don't. It was in public view, which is why I saw it and my God..

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"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

The Final Furlong Podcast

07:06 min | 5 months ago

"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

"Whether today? Good morning, Emmett, morning darn. I'm happy with Saint Patrick's Day to you too. No, it's very dry here now. The soldiers miraculously come out behind cleve hill and it's like a day in Portugal. The sun is out. And there's a breeze and I'd expect a nice day of whether I had. Portuguese, the destination for most jockeys after the child in the festival is to give themselves a bit of a break. So the going as we have it has been updated to soft heavy in places as we switch to the new course for Saint Patrick's Saint Patrick's Day and day three. Yesterday, you were saying that while The Rain hadn't fallen yet as we were recording and how fate in the morning, the clouds were looming and rolling over cleve hill and clearly The Rain was coming, yet the clerk of the course still watered the track and, well, it was bloody brutal conditions so bad that Patrick Mullins face after he had won in facade and in the winners enclosure with Lydia his love was covered in mock. Somebody could have handed the man a baby wipe. I think he was making a point. It was brutal conditions yesterday. I know. I think to be honest, all of national jockeys would prefer that kind of ground. Anyone that's complaining about the ground really at the moment should we shouldn't be here. It's only an excuse to not run a horse or they're not going to win one or the other. The predicament, the new Clarke, the course, was in on Tuesday, was that they had a very dry day and there was a few jockeys that voiced a concern here on Tuesday about going and he was in the sort of predicament where it was just about okay. By the last race on Tuesday and apparently the weather forecasting that their guess and even I got this verified on the BBC forecast yesterday that it had been a very mixed bag, whether there were actually going to get The Rain on here yesterday or not. Anyone that's come out and said, including Paul Nichols, who said that the rain was guaranteed at cheltenham yesterday is actually telling a lie because I looked into it and they weren't guaranteed to get the random was a 40% chance yesterday that they weren't going to get The Rain. So it's a very tough call because if we didn't water on Tuesday evening, especially after the jockey's oyster concerns, there would have been a deluge if there was no rain yesterday, it would have been intelligent of non runners. It would have been a novel out of non runners here yesterday. And that would look very bad on race. Due to the fact that they did water and there was a diligent rain that was very little non runners yesterday because of that. And there shouldn't be anyone really complaining about the ground to be honest. And it's a tough gig for his first year in the job as Clark at the course. So I wouldn't hold him. I wouldn't hold it against him but actually praise him for actually listening to the jockeys and taking action rather than sitting on the fence and maybe hoping. The voice of him. The voice of reason from Denis Oregon and Delos. He said that because our friend Chris cook in the trade paper wrote tempers fray and resentment rises as relentless rain ruins Sheldon for some. Not least, the aforementioned Paul nickels who pull brave man's game. I don't think he ever wanted to run him in the first place, quite frankly. Stage star had bombed out a childhood of winners of the terrible record in the body more. And of course Nikki Henderson went on a rampage as well. It was all the grounds fault. The bummed out. Nothing to do with any of the errors. All ground related. So intriguing that well, yeah, I read it. I read in there now what Nikki said last night, of course I always read the facts and what they actually write. And say, a Nikki did say it. He didn't handle the ground, but he didn't blame the clerk at the course. He said the Clark the course was right to water, but he didn't blame he just blamed the ground being about it was for shishkin's performance. Now, on top of that, I can't see that there was much difference between the ground at ascot. When he beach energy mean to the ground yesterday, there was no, I didn't. If it was later in the card, even the last race or the second last year would say something but the fact that wasn't and I just I'm not having that excuse either. To me, shishkin was very disappointing and obviously connections are very disappointed, but to me he didn't look like he was up for a test today and he never really was traveling with the enthusiasm that you expect from him. And the Mullins camp changed tactics as well and it came off to great effect with an argument. I have to ask you about because to be fair, you were saying to me, give it to me, give it to me about delta or just bring on the punishment. But to be fair, you were the one who said it was Katie who broke the news that he was going to run because they were schooling him over the banks fences. But you were the one who said yesterday that Delta war could jumped more banks fences. Then he will actually jump in the race. So it was there for us. Yeah, he was there, but I still, it must have been a hell of a performance from Delta work to win it on his force ever on his really. You'd have to nearly say that he's probably going to win it for the next couple of years and take the mantle from Tiger roll. Because he only improved from that, I would say. And I suppose he is a kind of a goal cop slash one 68 a chancer. He was entitled to that. It wasn't totally to be in the mix. I just feel that we're taking a role. I felt yesterday. He runs to about one 70 around this cross country course, and he wouldn't run to one ten in a handicap or an urban, but he would run to one 70. He would run to one 70 in the cross country and tell him if that makes any sense. It's a sort of special array. And he is definitely a great warhorse on that course. And I just felt that the ground state as it was Tuesday on as it was on Tuesday, I thought you wouldn't have come off the bridle, but the fact that it ran and it did rain heavy and even this morning and there was a lovely dry day here. We were down countering horses this morning in the center, tracking, you could see the splashes of water, you know, definitely was too soft for Tiger roll yesterday. But there we go, never take away from the winner. It was a good winter, and it wasn't the result everyone wanted, but it was great to see Michael O'Leary cry after. It's very good. There's two pieces, actually. Normally we do the stories afterwards, but I'm just gonna do them now. And no romance, no.

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"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

The Final Furlong Podcast

06:41 min | 5 months ago

"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

"Unless you've got real faith in the horse 18s and 20s for a horse, it was ten to one, only two days ago is not a good sign. Mayors hurdle? Disappointing race, type of race that worries me in terms of people going 5 days in the festival. And we're looking at it was. No, but this is the type of race I'd fear that you would end up with. Yeah. You know, it's a Saturday race or a Sunday race in leopardstown. You know, it doesn't really have any of the glittering gold of years gone by. I was very taken with what Dennis was saying there and there's strong support for queensborough. Definitely one of those races now that Gordon has particularly targeted. You've got the bromhead mayor Kenny Alexander's horse tell me something girl stormy island echoes in rain. There's a reasonable amount of trade, but there's just no depth in it for me, you know? I won't be I won't be playing at this point anyway, but I would if somebody was leading towards queen's Brooke, I'd be very happy with that decision. I think that that's going to be a good bet. Queensborough stormy island reversed forecast storm Maryland to win in my humble opinion. Yes. A very shrewd operator that I would speak with regularly has had a good bet. And when I say a good bet these lads would be strong for figure punters, I said a good each way bed on stormy Ireland. Yeah, I think she's rock solid. Ever since she came back from a disastrous spell with the Paul Nicholas, she's just a different horse. And the fact that Paul chose her over burning victory, who beat last summer, it says it all as well. We're both on the same horse in the boodles. Yeah, I've had that bet now already and I had a proper each way better on adversary and I don't think that the British handicapper took any chances giving him a rating of one three one, but I do think that Gordon is the shortest man in the business at Vasari came out. One in cork beating adamantly chosen. And I think after that, then the job really is the educate the horse's best you can to get it ready to, you know, this is a 22 runner field, I think, today, isn't it? Yeah. And horses have to be prepared for that. And I think that that's what Gordon was doing in the next two races. I was speaking to the breeder of band bridge last night. Who was second, sorry, who from the nav and race, and they're mad about bambridge. That goes on Friday. And avasari is coming up in conversation a lot. So I'm kind of happy enough that we're gone in there, having a good bet. But there's a lot, there's a lot to the race, I think. Warrior has been touted even though it hasn't jumped a hurdle in Ireland is a horse like Gale warrior, a bed for me. No, he isn't. Why I think the French hurdling and our hurdling is different. And they've obviously protected the handicap Mark, which is very intelligent from the Mullins camp, but there's a huge difference guys between France and Ireland and it can take horses a little bit of time to adjust to the type of hurdles that we have. And I know from being around the Elliott yard that there's a lot of good good feeling towards the tide turns. HMS seahorse has been catching a lot of people's eye Paul Nolan is well able to get one to perform in Sheldon and there's good, good money over the last 48 hours for HMS seahorse. But Brazil and champion green as well. It's a cracking little handicap, isn't it? I can just everything just keeps coming back to ever sorry for me. And I'm just very happy that there's good money kind of following the decision that we've made to back them, you know, I just think the profiles right, the rating on the flat is right. Pedigree is right on the damn side. And most importantly, the pilot is the best in the business. So yeah, I think that big field, again, go back, check out the amount of places that are being offered. What's the best that you can see there in it in terms of? 6 weeks. 6, you know, like if 6 and 5 pretty much everywhere, guys keep that in mind. Don't take, don't take four places. You don't have to. Have a reasonable bet. I would think in this because there is value there with those prices. Yeah, and the amount of forces you mentioned, particularly the tight turns, for example, who's now drifted to your applicable price. Brazil, who was Frankie tulips, was saying was staying in Ireland. HMS seahorse who we like as well. Sorry. That is enough to just put you off category. He might be really good, but he's too short a price. Last race. Sorry, gang warrior was just a media conversation point. You know, I think journalists were kind of curious as to why he hadn't run. And people are taking 5 to two, can the horse win, of course, it can. It's trained by Willie Mullins. All I'm saying is it's not a bed for me. Exactly. I agree with you, and William Manson never won the race. Ron wild Fred, you just heard from Denis Oregon. He's talking about big time. Bernoulli is still the horse for me. Disappointing turnout though in the end for the proper name, Ukraine appealed national hunt challenge cup amateurs, novices chase. But a really shocking turnout. You have a very disappointed. And again, it's kind of you're hoping that the powers that be when they think about their 5 days start to.

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"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

The Final Furlong Podcast

03:24 min | 5 months ago

"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

"Norris. Perhaps it was a much depth in the eye and then a couple underperformed on the table. It's hard not to be impressed by that performance, but haven't watched the maiden race back when they took it to their own New Year's Day. New Year's Eve sorry on Apple watches town. I've considered conclusion that if will bunk and just improve his head a little bit more, I think that he might well be capable to enough form around. There was no fight to hurdles jumped on that occasion often only 8 in the two mile race, but there was 9 on that occasion. At least four times pied piper. Comfortably out June club and took Lisa and also my workout. So despite all of that, it was a methyl Australia probably still with the one. He took a step forward when he won the spring juvenile hurdle in terms of jumping. But there's still room for improvement in upper bottom and I think if he again stepped forward with his jump and obviously the configuration that the new course will probably help him in that there's only two flights ahead also jump in the final 7 fail lungs. I just think you might say in a form around. Pied piper Ferrari vauban for Paul Ferguson. And it's still illegal for me. I was really taken with that performance at leopard stone. I would heed the words of Denis Oregon though. And Phil door fits so many of the Paul Ferguson, whether he's children first of all, didn't go stats. I would before Christmas contested the spring juvenile slash ran in a grade one, comes from France, is trained by Gordon Elliott, that hill could turn the form around and fill the worst prices becoming more and more attractive, the more I look at him. So he's currently 5s with the 9s. I'll probably keep with LA but fill the world's horse to respect. Yeah, I think it's worth not obviously Gordon's to track unfair to win as both finished runner up in the spring juvenile and then obviously turn the fall around. And I thought it was slightly significant that after I had papers went on trials in the winners and closed afterwards Gordon was still seem to be keen to point out the field all appear at that point to be the number one for those connections because those talk obviously have possibly switching to the supreme political and be filled or the following week so probably at an impact on how they thought about it. For me, for those with a little bit similar, susannah here last year looks just like a proper sale that shows, in my opinion, would want to test the stamina on Friday if he is to have a chance to sit in the former. Yeah. No, I agree with that. And I implore you to go look back at LA times from that race. Danny just gave him the perfect introduction. And William Mullins was actually saying he was going to keep him for next year. He wasn't going to do anything with him this year. And he was working so well that he felt obliged to run him. So they popped him into the grade one. And he's one of my race to be only 5 and three quarter lengths behind Vermont. And said he's come on a ton since then as well. And Danny said the same, too, that he's been just working absolutely brilliantly. So it's a free shot because.

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"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

The Final Furlong Podcast

06:28 min | 5 months ago

"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

"This race is nowhere near the quality of the typical red mills or champion hurdle. And he'd run forth in the juvenile leopard stand before that at the start of February. So I think all those got a biggish weight, 11 stone 5. I think the tide turns it has got a lot going for him here. I quite like to go for it. A classy horse with a biggish weight rather than one of the others further down the list. But if you want something that sneaked in near the bottom forever William for Alan King again and another trainer I think could do quite well with this was this year. I said, I think it's going to be focusing on the ones that he thinks are seriously worth sending Tom cannons a very good rider and please see he's getting lots of winners now he's very prominent in the Allen king stable and forever. Williams be running against some very good horses in his three races so far. So I think of the outsiders at 21 he would be the one for an each way pump for me. But I think for the other end of the market at the tide turns, I think he's currently second favorite. I think you could actually make a case out from being favorite here. He has to improve on that run last time out. He's beaten 23 lengths into fourth place, but if you look at the video again, I think you see he could have finished much closer. Without actually suggesting that in any way, there was anything to be us going on because there wasn't because he couldn't have improved his placing. So he was very much run on his merits, but I think that there's a lot more to come from him. Yeah, I'd agree with you. I think they ran him just to get him handicapped. And you're taking on TFO in champion hurdle to try it as well. So there's also the fact that he's run in against great one class sources already. So that's a major he's taking on football, for example, in the spring juvenile. Horses who've run in 6 of the last 11 winners ran in a great one or a grade two earlier in the season. So that's something to very much bear in mind. What was the name of the other horse that you were putting up? I got to go a long way down for this image. No, I was further down than that, actually, too friendly for the scale situation. It would be interesting to talk about the skeletons because I get the impression again that rather like I talked about Alan King and Paul Nichols. I think the skeletons again have got a slimline team for children this year of horses that they think have got a serious chance of winning. So I wouldn't be surprised to see a big run from two friendly there. Now forever William is the one for trailer Allen key for everyone. A little bit of a price there to get in the first won't be the first four, wouldn't it? Yeah. You should be getting first. At least 5. At least on the day anyway, it'll be first 5. So he's currently 20s with kaluki. I have talked about him before. I'm a big, big fan of this, and that is a sorry. But there's a horse that I was looking at this morning when I was prepping to come home with you both. And I'm sure of absolutely butchered the pronunciation there. First time, first run after a building operation, runs for Ian Williams. Began his career in France, which is a positive. He's French bread. And while he was absolutely battered in grade one company behind fortress Jell-O, he wasn't that far behind the night salute. In November at Shelton. And that was on the old course. So he's 50s, and if he can just run to a place, I'd be more than happy with that. He needs to get in, first of all, he's currently number 28. Matthews broke this down at the handicapped special, which I highly recommend you listen to. He thinks that they will, but to maximum field of 22. So he needs a few to come out. Some of these are going to be, I think, I'm pretty certain Brazil stays at home. Pretty certain it was still loud. And a number of these sources are going to be coming for the triumph as well. So yeah, intriguing. This brings us to the last race. The glory to Ukraine appeal national hunt challenge got how great is it going to be, by the way, if dice of dynamo wins the supreme in the Ukrainian colors? Screw you Putin, screw you, you evil, evil bastard, run wild Fred. Why is the source of such a short price? I'll tell you why. Because my man Roy de largy put him up at 6s, that's why, so you're getting 11 to four, which is a standout best price with kaluki. Statler is overall favorite at 5 to two. Vanilla, love this horse 9 to two factor delaying he needed a bog 8, fury road 7s, pat fancies, tens, and then on the ropes who was talked up very strongly by Denis Oregon on the show. When he looks at the leading Irish contenders, he is a ten to one shot. Melissa, it's the last race you're talking about on the final front podcast before you're on next. So take it away, no pressure, take us out with a winner. Hopefully this won't be the getting out. So we're all hoping for a winner after a blank card. It's gonna be a great day. It's gonna be a great day. With the help of God, we'll be having a fantastic day. We're counting the gravy and always remember treat the last race, like the first race of the next day. Exactly. There's always another opportunity now, but we hopefully got some really good forces in there and fans from winners for our listeners. This afternoon. But yeah, a lot of funds will be behind run wild Fred. They shrewd is a decent anti post prices on him because of course he's a Cornelius horse in the national health chase. And that's always got a horse for this race, doesn't he? And in this time, in this renewal, sorry, he's got three of the top 5 in the betting whether they all run remains to be seen because of course fury road might go for an alternative race at the meeting, but ren does top them. He was brilliant in the Troy town. He's got lots of experience and he does have the right profile for this race. Of course, the recent winners have had plenty of runs over fences, and he's had ten, I believe. So it's very hard to sort of go against her and while Fred in the finale. He stays particularly well..

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"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

The Final Furlong Podcast

02:15 min | 5 months ago

"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

"You look after a horse, you are going to be nervous because you've put all your effort and they kind of know you treat them as your own. Yeah. And then talking to them and you get very nervous watching them. I don't think you'll be in the right game if you didn't. Something's not right if you're just like, yeah, okay. Yeah. But it is gas being in there. And you've got maybe a horse hits the front and a groom starts going absolutely belus. And suddenly, a horse of looms up on the outside and there's a stable who starts roaring and shouting all of a sudden having been quiet previously. And I just can see that happening with you with one of these horses and I'd love for one of them to win because having met in person you're such a decent and lovely person but also just your love of horses is incredible and it's infectious. And the more you talk about tipu, as much as I've been against them, the more you talk about them, the more I'm like, I'm gonna feel sick if that horse wins in half. I haven't had something on him. But having had you on the show talking him up is enough. And hopefully fun from a podcast listeners will be supporting you and of course I'm sure that we plenty who want to come up and say hello to you as well. Katie is very friendly, by the way. Don't bother if she's walking a horse around. Busy then. Can I just briefly go through some of the other Gordon Elliott versus with you that are intriguing. So rivia did tell is that we've talked about for the article for quite some time. To my astonishment, it's one thing for you and I'd say Riviera to tell us should have been awarded the race at leopards down at the Dublin racing festival, but Johnny ward and Mikey fogarty were both an agreement as well that she should have got it in the stewards room. She has course experience having one of the boodles. She's tough and Denis Oregon was saying in the Irish contender special that when he wrote a piece of work on her and of course he's written her twice to victory that I think when you want to.

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"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

The Final Furlong Podcast

01:46 min | 5 months ago

"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

"Gordon doesn't change anything really in their routine. They do everything they would do normally. It's maybe a bit more, it might set them up a little bit more for cheltenham because they're over there a few days before than they have to be. So the preparation for working ways to start probably three weeks in advance. When you kind of know what's going and what's going where you can kind of get an idea and start working them. But they'd have to do that last piece of work proper piece work probably two weeks before. And then they'll probably do a piece of work kind of they would on a piece of work early this week, not too much now, but just get them away and get the blood up. And then that's kind of it then. Yeah, Denis Oregon was talking to us about the racecourse gallop that you had recently. And obviously that's something very famous William Mullins. And Willie's kind of set the benchmark. So if it works for him, then why wouldn't everybody else do the same thing? So trip to the races. Give them a race course gallop, and then. This is going to sound a bit odd, but each horse has their own personality. So are they, are there some who are just very, very difficult to go through the whole process of getting on the transporter, getting on the ferry, like George Washington famously wouldn't enter the winners enclosure after winning the 2000 guineas. He refused to.

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"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

The Final Furlong Podcast

02:06 min | 5 months ago

"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

"The mainland Denis Oregon Dennis welcome back to the show. Hey, how much how are you getting on? I'm good, thank God. At 23.5 in the last year, not to rub salt into the wounds. Do you suspect looking at the firepower that we're sending over this year that it's going to be something a little bit similar this year? I think we'll have a lot of success this year, yeah, but I don't think it'll be the same as last year. I think I just said, you know, looking through the season and having written it in the cello hurdle and different things that I feel that the UK actually have some very good nervousness this year as well. So there might be quite as good as the Irish man versus what you're not far away. Okay, well let's start with novices and we'll start obviously very much Irish focus. There's still no word on where daisy dynamo glorious Ukraine just pure coincidence he carries those colors. And sir Gerard goes to this massive market move, by the way, Dennis and I were speaking about the Ukrainian Russian war. We could have done an entire podcast on it. It was so fascinating stuff. But the show has to go on. There's been a massive market move for Sergei art, but you and I both know this is height Willie Mullins bingo territory. Willie Mullins keeps his plans very fluid, I was actually shocked that he came out and said, yeah, gallop on the shop is gonna go for the turners. I was really surprised that he said that at the open day, but he hasn't committed in terms of Sergei or dive to dynamo. If one was to go up and trip which one would be more suited who is the better suited on the back of the Dublin racing festival. Do you think? Or is it a case of both of these horses? Are just better suited to two miles and therefore they're both going to have to lock horns a little bit like Nikki would constitution hill and jump on. Yeah, well, it's such a high racism looking true. I mean, constitutional.

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"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

The Final Furlong Podcast

06:11 min | 5 months ago

"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

"On a Sunday for a change alongside mister Rory de largy hello there. And welcome along to the showman, man. As we look back on the weekend that was and possible impacts for cheltenham starting with night salute, it was definitely a strong fertile player now. He's been very impressive all season and continued that with taking the Adonis hurdle. I camped in. Although we did say in the preview show, I made the point that it hasn't really had an impact on the training portal in the last ten years, but can knight's salute lay down the gauntlet to the Irish challenge. Because I thought this was really taking. Yeah, it was a nice performance. It would have been very close between nice certain teddy blue. Had to lose in Australia the last. Yeah. And the runner up, they traded 6s on. Coming to that last order, because he was making grand handle a fist. But the thing about it is that it is just utterly reliable. You know that he's going to put in a jump and he needs to know he's going to bat a little piece as well. So it's far from putting fine from over teddy blue lost a lot of momentum wasn't just a mistake. He lost his back legs, trying to come away from the hurdle as well. And did well to finish just over three lengths behind the winner. This isn't really trying for the winning form. Again, the question we are going into the risk. Was there was something interesting, lurking them all the newcomers and frankly, they were dreadful. They were absolutely hopeless. Brutally. Lesser man pulled up as if he had a bit of travel to the early stages. He looks like he would be a player, but he stopped very quickly. The famous 5 was the first force beaten for a horse that cost 250 grand on the flat. He'd like to see a little bit more than that first time. And ruble just looked like he was getting experience to be honest. Went very wide, ended up being beaten quite a long way into air to lead to the best of the newcomers. And that's not a great sign given this is to reach the Paul Nichols has used time and again to introduce a potentially top notch juvenile. And this is very much not the case here. So there's nothing coming out of the woodwork for the triumph. So anyone who's back to foreign forces will be very happy to see the results. Night salute is an each way player. But the balance of his form gives him a bit to find and the thing about him. He's such a likeable horse. But you know, if you're standing by the great ring on Friday, looking at these going right, again, he is very much not going to catch your eye. He doesn't look like a prospective hurdler. It definitely doesn't look like a chaser down the line. He is very much what he is. He's small, but he's well formed and he's a trier. And he's going to put us all into the triumph, but the chances are that it's not going to be enough looking at the form that in the contenders have shown the prospect for improvement that they have, whereas he's gradually raised his game just through experience. But it's not like he's going to he can't really physically take a big step forward at this stage. But I don't want to knock him because he's been such a star from Milton Harris. And every time he runs, people are always looking for something to beat him, expecting him to meet his march and he keeps pulling out a bit more and winning. So you have to figure out an option. He's been an absolute starter for the Milton house behind this season and even if he does bomb it and the triumphal or finishes a respectable force or whatever happens to be. He's done himself pride this season and no doubt he'll win more races as well. I'd imagine he would race it back on the front as well. Looking up enough to take advantage of that. The irony was this was actually the race where he was supported because we were making the point on Thursday that in every other race, he's been taken on. He was leasing to one, obviously at sedgefield with udema. I'm expecting a quicker response than that Rory. Rory deems it a dog track. Hi, scheduled. So then he's known to do a kempton 92 again four to one, but he was very well backed for this and considering the fact that there were so many interesting and exciting prospects coming from the flash who, as Rory said, were brutal. Each and every one of them were just awful. They showed nothing. So we'll have to wait and see what happens there. I can see him, I can see him being involved. I see no reason why he can't. Listen, you can draw a form line. And suggest that all that mocket of us is being 9 lengths by pied piper. I'll ask about it. If you think Mark that advance is run to the same level. In this race, which is possible because, you know, as we said, after that transport and private Shelton, it did look like a fell apart by badly. If you think it's one of the same form, then, you know, nice little speed of a lot further here. What's up? Over 20 lengths. 20 thanks back in. Compared to the 9 9 piper beaten, but I think a I think market diversity have the run of things at them if you like actually the run of things. He was able to run through beaten horses and was probably flattered by where he finished to a degree. Maybe we'll sit up by the stiff track of Shelton, didn't look quite the same horse here, although he was, you know, he ran respectively. And the other aspect of course was just how much my piper happened has. Yeah. But then again, you know, maybe we're still underestimating that because he keeps finding. When push comes to the shelf and maybe we've seen it before. Tough little horses come in and try on portal. Yeah. No, it was certainly can. And we made examples, catch it, being one. He's telling me that the horse who managed to get the job done, but he's 14, but really his tens, vast majority forms of gun tens about him now. And then you have to make your own mind up and look, we'll be talking about it in more detail in the coming weeks, including with Denis Oregon about bob on piper and filter and a horse that I really like Ella Tom, who Darren beat me too. On the podcast and giving him a big mention..

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"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

The Final Furlong Podcast

05:43 min | 6 months ago

"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

"Risk. It went. It was there, and it just disappeared. Throughout that is 7 for Dan and Harry skelton. And two trainers that we just will just skip them, shall we? And Tom simons has got Morocco de vasi with income and booked for the ride. I think shall we have one more is going to be very, very hard to be here. Yeah, I'm not sure I want to be piling in some of the price, but there's nothing else that hugely appeals. He's a horse who has got plenty of talent, he was too keen under restraints. At ask and sound diner and his first two starts this season, but still showed useful form. He was forced from the toll was, but he was held up off the pierce there. Rather fought Jamie Moore and didn't give his true running as a result, but was far from disgraced. They then decided maybe the best thing to do with this king going horse as with goshen, by the way, is let him do his own thing. And when you find that thing goes like potion, like shall we have one more have a tendency to be a lot less gassy once you allow them to stride on. So horses who are keen tend to be less so given their head. Some of them are more so, you know, and they could be frightening lunatics. But that's those are different kind of horses altogether. But yeah, Xiaomi have a more subtle really well. And that race is over a long way from them. It was hugely on competitive, it was under 49 that day, which gives you an idea of how weak it was for a Saturday, not as heard of the sound line. I think it was televised as well. It was. By 20 lengths, there wasn't much in the race to be perfectly honest. The only one is run since Arthur's seat has been at this pointing. So you kind of look at that run and go, well actually, he didn't achieve an awful lot more. In winning that easily, they had last time. But he gives the impression that he could have done a lot more. He was asked. I don't like punting horses on the basis that they give the impression they might have done better. Especially when you're getting really short on. But he was a, he was an easy winner as bumper here. Last season. So kempton said some really well. And he showed that the thing that was holding him back over hurdles was his tendency to pull hard. He showed that if he can go on, then he's less likely to pull his head. So it may well be that that's simply the answer. That he will go on again. But in terms of what is actually achieved, he doesn't do my best of these. So it's hard to back him at a really short price. And that makes it difficult. Is sale or ICO hi, everyone I call him, was a 17 length winner of a similarly modest hurdle here over course and distance at the Camden Christmas meeting. But the Nichols runner actually did that in a really good time. He put April time for Saturday earlier on. And then Brian frost a lie to him to stride on and when he was led Australia. He settled better on the ends up winning winning with penny despair. But it was disappointing in the triumphal trial at Chapman on his next start. This is a lot easier. He gets the four year olds get a handy we had alliance still this time of the year, which is a tends to be a big advantage for sort of February onwards. And if he buys his batch platform, he's got a decent chance. I get the impression that Nick was thinking he's fundamentally an embryonic Chester who needs to learn how to race. So he might, you know, this might be an educational run. But at the same time, you know, he's produced a performance on the figures that gives him the beating of shall we have one more, so it wouldn't be a massive surprise if he points back to that form. I wouldn't, I wouldn't want to back him at the price he should be based on the ratings. I think that's probably a little bit shaky, but at the same time I think at the early prices he's probably overpriced. Yeah, that's a surprisingly big price given that TPA is top rated by time, but he's written 9 point ahead of shall we have one more time for him to ratings. But obviously he didn't run to the same level last time either, but that was against pied piper. In what Denis Oregon. New member of the team, I'm very proud to say, described as a bizarre race that he doesn't really trust in terms of form and just in the way that the race was run. Yeah, certainly a fair number of those. They didn't seem to go. They didn't go very fast, but the horses who were on the front end all struggled. In the last few stages, I mean, the pace was set by a branch outsider. And you'd have thought that those sitting hands and they would have been well positioned, but they tended not to run the race. And the first and second came from way off the back. But point paper one of us was absolutely tons of his state. But anyway, that's ICO didn't run his race. He went up the inside. It wasn't the place to go anywhere on that occasion. And that was at the time when the nickel sources started running moderately. Yeah. I don't think it was massively concerned at the time. I did this with someone who said they heard that what the what the nickel's reaction after that was, which was just.

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"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

The Final Furlong Podcast

05:31 min | 6 months ago

"denis oregon" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast

"So strictly on board performance there's not a lot between them. You probably should have beaten Sega other gentleman and I needed beats in a bunch of times you say so. That's interesting. He started definitely not. That's what I say. For this reason I'll pass maybe wait until the field to the declarations and the prices aren't going to shorten that much at the top of the bed and say, I think it's going to be a bit more interested for the batter, which one goes to the ballet marker, I think. Whichever one will be setting sail over the world, you said I think we'll take plenty of beat and I think he's going to whoever goes there will have more speed than the horses we're going to talk about in the valley module. Can we get prices on where Willie Mullins is going to send these horses that will be an interesting one? Willie Mullins bingo. Statements intriguing. I think this is the racial goal for. And I think I know he's been cut from 33s, but I think he might go in underestimated. And we'll just briefly touch on pied piper from the perspective of, why are we not discussing the triumph for a look on this edition of the show? I will technically it's not a novice hurdle and since the championship really supported olds. There was a couple of things called mom Raleigh with the top Toyota last year. They wouldn't have been eligible for knowledge reason that one would the previous spring in France. So that was we decided to not include it in the novice, it'll show. As I said, I was asked no one trials day and the post based tour from gold was that it would definitely be considered by the Supreme Court. I think subsequent events will be in Philadelphia probably sitting down and assassinate properly with the oven and things and not one step might be part of the trip. It can make sense for them to have never had the winner at the festival before. Go to strong chances in their triumphal new early rather than taken on what looks and much deeper field in the supreme. Although if for some reason, definitely have to be respected. It was pretty impressive, wasn't in the finesse. I mean, I think the track on the old course wouldn't always have any problems. So yeah, EP respectable at the stage, I think he's a very doubtful role person. Yeah, I thought Denis Oregon's comments on the DRS preview were very interesting about him that he didn't really buy the form. He thought that yeah. He was such a gentleman for him. Yeah, he was like, I don't remember. You don't need to buy into that form. You can buy into the roll band formula. True. From the previous race. You just wonder how much vauban has taken a leap forward. And I would say both of them would now end up talking about the trial from the book. By the way, there's no respect for night salute who perhaps is the weekend. But I did just notice, as I was, as I was listening intently and multitasking because we can do that. John Jones has a listed winner. From the flash in fronts, who cost a 170,000. Who could make his debut in the Adonis for JPMorgan's. And finally, we'll see pleasant man. Hopefully, for Paul Nichols, the problem is the Paul knuckles yard continues to be rank form. Absolutely atrocious. But pleasant manners over some very intrigued by, but I'd be more intrigued by a listed winner. And then a horse who was subsequently placed in group enlisted companies as well running for JP. So they're in there taking on night salute. So that's the Adonis will give us a clearer picture of the tribe parallel. Overall, who is your selection for the supreme? So if he goes, probably at this stage, lean into a disaster I know. So am I with a note of a strong notion of respect for John Bond? And yeah, I've got plenty of respect for plenty of top of the markets and say it wouldn't be a big race out again. Heavily involved in because of I've got a lot of respect for several others at the top of the bed and so I probably don't have animals to want to really create a Moscow flyer performance. I thought it was pretty breathtaking and. I think the smaller field as well is going to benefit them that he'll just bowl along and you consider the fact that that race has been won by men dauphin for tour. Yeah, I think that we're going to talk to you even using those trial raises because the good race in their own right obviously the Moscow flutter roofs that will it takes you can't even use that to determine really where the others you say you should have done those previous three winners of the Moscow flyer and the race that.

Willie Mullins Denis Oregon Sega vauban Paul Nichols Raleigh Toyota Supreme Court Philadelphia France John Jones John Bond JPMorgan Moscow