14 Burst results for "Democratic Self Governance"

"democratic self governance" Discussed on RJ Politics

RJ Politics

07:33 min | 4 months ago

"democratic self governance" Discussed on RJ Politics

"We don't get into strategy bottle. Of course we are. Four and I've heard from the State Chair Michael McDonald I asked him the same question and he basically said Yeah you definitely are and even even went into specifics. He's we're going to be going to old folks homes to veterans, homes to hospitals and things like that to to get you who we believe to be our voters out for us in out for the president. So so to me, that's what trump was saying trump was saying you know. We're suing and we think we're in the right in that lawsuit. But in the you know pry, I would say somewhat likely chance that that isn't resolved our way before Election Day yeah. Do it use the systems available send in your mail in ballot do everything do it early and I thought it was interesting too because to me it represented in an agreement probably the only one I know of between President Trump and the Republicans and the local Democrats which just on Friday I covered an event that the Democrats did about an initiative to do exactly this to vote as early as possible to track your ballot to make a plan and everything like that and you know I think that's I think that's kind of as it should be because we've talked about it. Voting and participating and using whatever system is available to you to be heard. Shouldn't be a partisan thing and every single thing in this world these days is partisan if there's one thing that shouldn't be then maybe voting is it and maybe maybe that's true. Maybe both sides really are pretty earnest and they're trying to get you out and trying to get you to vote however possible. Yeah and the thing is I mean a lot of people say. That's poxy but look I mean this happens all the time in politics. You have politicians who denounce. The Supreme Court's holding in the citizens united case the that corporations can can give unlimited sums and they say, this is terrible for politics is awful for politics. These super PACs are ruining politics but yet those same people oftentimes sometimes no but oftentimes, we'll take super PAC money and when you ask them, aren't you being hypocritical you're denouncing it they say, no I'm. Not. Being. Hypocritical. Because I'm not going to unilaterally disarm I you're right I. Think it's awful. I think it's terrible but as long as it's the law of the land I'm GONNA use it. So trump is essentially the same thing here look like me voting and he has been really inconsistent on this because he has denounced mail voting even though he uses it himself. He said in Florida it's good in Nevada. It's bad and there's really no distinction or differentiation that he could articulate of why is good in one place in baton another except for maybe that the Florida went to him and Vada went to Hillary Clinton but that aside. And we should we should for the listeners we should differentiate between male versus absentee absentee ballot is when you write to the county to request that they send you about. So they look at their records, they see your a registered voter and they send a ballot to your house. You fill that out you mail it back to them. That is absentee voting. In some states, you need an excuse you need to stay out of town that week of the election. So I won't be able to participate in Nevada and in many other states, you don't need an excuse you can do it for any reason including convenience. A mail ballot is different in only in one respect. It's the same exact paper at the same exact envelope is the same exact process of mailing in counting but the mail ballot is sent to you automatically because you live in a precinct that has been designated as a male only precinct these are usually small far-flung areas far away from urban population centers. In the primary election again now, in this election under the new law, essentially, we're all in a male precinct they're going to send me a balance to every active registered voter in the state you're going to get one of those They asked that if you're going to vote in person, you bring your mail valid in surrender that ballot. If not, you'll be asked to signed an affidavit saying you promised you're not gonNa vote by mail that is again to prevent this. Double voting, we're talking about those differences between a male absentee ballots. Now, the president has been really down on Nevada's mail balloting. He says that this new law that he's suing to overturn his pointed out is bad. It's got flaws in certainly his losser articulates what he believes to be some of the flaws of this this law, some of those things are not as big a concern as they are, and there's other people in the state of Nevada who are. Peddling outright falsehoods about what that law does does not do and and I think it's unfortunate that that people are are doing that because it does undermine confidence in the in the election and the ultimate result of the election enforces the secretary of state to go on. The website and put out things like facts versus myths. They've gotTa, do fact checks of myths that they have heard. It is just a big mess but but but don't find I don't find what trump is doing to be hypocritical in any way I mean look he is playing the game with the rules that are on the field as they are right now he saying he doesn't like mail voting but hey, if that's the law of the land of that's how my supporters have to go to the polls for me. Then that's fine. Here's how you do it. Do it early check to make sure your vote counts and have this plan What the Democrats are saying because the actual mechanism of the process is exactly the same for for both parties are really isn't a partisan issue now, the rhetoric about you know. This is bad and fraud and all this other stuff. I I find unfortunate especially from people the president is they the highest elected officials only elected official in the United States is voted on by all the people and I think it's unfortunate when people in his position denigrate the mechanisms by which we exercise Democratic Self Governance. But what are you GONNA do? That's just the way it is, and I think he has other reasons for doing that including a sneaking suspicion that if he loses is going to need an alternative explanation out of them more people like. Joe Biden Than Light Tim because that is not going to be satisfactory to his own ego, enter his supporters who he still I think wants to retain whatever post-presidential job that he goes into. So So so there's all those factors going on but the the one thing I don't think you could really say with any credibility is that is that he's necessarily a hypocrite because in case you know everybody who who denounce something hated politics while at the same time benefiting from it is also a hypocrite and that would make a lot of people hypocrites in politics. Age. Just the necessary logic of sort of follows where you can advocate to change. Change in the rules but until the rules are changed, me everybody plays by those rules in place by the same way I mean. That is what Michael McDonald the state. GOP. Told me flat out. He said look. The Democrats changed the rules no no no doubting that they have the majority a super majority in the assembly. Well, Democrats changed the rules. We think those rules are bad. We think those rules are illegal. That's why we're suing..

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"democratic self governance" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

05:21 min | 6 months ago

"democratic self governance" Discussed on KQED Radio

"It sounds like it's going to be in his lawsuit as well. Again If you're just joining us, we're talking to Jeffrey King, whose founder and editor of Open Vallejo and founder and CEO of the informed California Foundation. When you say that maybe the way to Do this is to move toward de funding the police or starting over as faras. The whole police force is concerned. Where to City Hall stand on that. I know, for example, that the city manager Jeff, half of layoffs City manager was apparently according to the story that you reported Informed about these badges and pretty much denied that he knew anything about it. He has come around somewhat about his knowledge as have others, But the bottom line is that I used to work in a Press Freedom Organization focused on journalists outside the United States, largely doing their work in authoritarian systems and I can tell you without hyperbole that Valeo reminds me. In some ways of those situations. City Hall's entirely disinterested. In any sort of defunding or disbanding or he perform. It seems, you know, I say that is an observer, not as an activist. In addition, people who do speak up received threats. They are harassed. I've received threats. Other journalists I know have received threats. Civil rights lawyers I know who have received threats and so It's this sort of strange authoritarians fiefdom. 45 minutes outside of San Francisco is also my hometown. Which is why, you know, I figured I would try and shut a light. But At this point dealio is Not something I would call in line with Democratic self governance and It seems that Intervention by somebody. The FBI the California Department justice is going to be required to shake some of this loose. Let me bring another Colorado from Sacramento. Sam joins us, Sam Good morning and welcome to the program. Hi. Thank you for taking my call. I'm listening to you for decades. I just wanted to give a couple points. One anecdotal. I grew up in the Tahoe and we had some pretty Ah. Stringing police officers, I guess would be one way to put it on. And the known thing was that these were now practicing police officers that were from Valeo and San Jose that got transferred up there. Because of things that they did. So that brings me to my second point, which you mentioned. You're dealing Google sheet and building into a database of the previous some things that have happened. I just wonder how far back your data goes. I think you should go back to the toe. Check that. And then my father was a police officer in Oakland in the seventies, and he quit. After they killed some black Panthers. And he said, You know the problem of being a police officer. Is that when all that you look for his bad pretty soon, that's all you can see. Thank you for that. Sam. Let me go back to Jeffrey King on this, Geoffrey, You want to respond? Sure, I think that those are both very, very good points. And we put a lot of burdens on our police both here in Vallejo, California in this country that Could be handled by other actors, and that can often lead you know. Potentially over half of people killed by police, according to some numbers are people disabilities. Many people with mental health crises are killed by police. And so I think that's why advocates are at least one of the reasons why advocates are Trying to reimagine what policing might look like in terms of the transfers. That's actually something that we're going to be looking at. We have been quietly on DH sometimes not so quietly in terms of we just found a lawsuit. I'm gathering data gathering public records for a year. And one of the things we're going to be looking at is how transfers to and through Valeo have Impacted policing here. So I'll give you an example when Robert Nicolini, who was a deputy chief in Oakland, came to fillet on 1995 if you go back to the 19 fifties. You don't see More than a handful of transfers from Oakland Toe DiLeo. Once he becomes chief, you start to see it ramp up a little. Now it's still small department about 100 officers, so I don't know the statistically significant but you can see it charted out. And they start coming in. You have the 2003 federal oversight. Of OPD happened. You start seeing more people come in. And then eventually, in 2014 you have six officers.

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"democratic self governance" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes

All In with Chris Hayes

11:06 min | 1 year ago

"democratic self governance" Discussed on All In with Chris Hayes

"Are following the breaking news out of Iraq where we have confirmation that Iran has launched missiles missile strikes to Iraqi basis at least two Iraqi basis that also house. US forces we have no confirmation yet of the assessment of damage or casualties around the state media is now saying that Eh. They launched these two rounds of missile strikes. And this is I think important and really actually crucial we think about this moment around saying there's no there's no retaliation for America For the latest attacks. Then they will stop attacking but if America tax than their response will be crushing and widespread. It seems to me that this is a calculation nation here by the Iranian regime. At least and getting to some point that does not further. Climb up the escalatory ladder that we have now been on for quite some time and is threatening to plunged the entire region into valuable war joining me now former Republican congressman from Oklahoma Mickey Edwards. Former chair of the House Republican Policy Committee and former Democratic Congressman from Maryland. Donna Edwards also with me Sam Cedar host the majority were podcast and MSNBC Contributor Angelina Maxwell host of signal boost on Sirius Xm and an MSNBC political analyst. Donna let me start with you the the way that we talk about. This tends to resolve revolve around the president. What decision when will he make? and WHO's influencing but America's democratic nation with the constitution that gives the power to declare war the the Congress United States represents this democratic nation. All of its citizens citizens should not be in the hands of one man particularly one man with the faculties that the current president has it seems to me extremely important that across Democrat and Republican particularly Democratic Party Democrat. Cows come out strongly to say no war with Iran. This is madness and do whatever they can to halt escalation is that a possibility ability as UCLA. I do think that there will be in there. Already have been tonight really strong voices coming from speaker. Pelosi herself that we do not want a war with Iran and very sadly this is so reminiscent of where we've been before and I think it's also important for the American American people to step up and declare that there should be no war with Iran and we are at a place where you know. There's a possibility that there could be some some de escalation but it requires seen voices and cool heads to preside both in the White House which I don't expect but certainly coming out with a strong voice from Democrats in the in the Congress and I would expect others who do not want to continue. You need to put service men and women in harm's way and to jeopardize the safety of of the American People Mickey you know there's been an interesting Fisher Asia and the Republican and Conservative collision on this question We we've seen it sort of break out in the open. Sometimes rampaul was on our air earlier. Senator from Kentucky urging us not to enter into worth around. There are some conservative commentators. WHO HAVE THE president's ear who also said the same? This seems to me kind of testing ground of that. What do you you expect to see from Republicans on the hill? Well if we stay with what they have been saying for. Many many years is that we should be very cautious. Che's about going into war but they're the bigger issue here is what you were talking about Chris. So I would hope that the congress is able to back the president op and not have is go into a major war but it's also important that Congress start reasserting its primacy in the field of international affairs primacy in in terms of deciding when we go to war because it's not just this war but with this man in the in the White House or frankly any president the idea that the congress would step by now. You were the democratic voice. Chris you've been talking about and that the Congress would back off and let any president just on his own whim or any other reason take take the country into war is unacceptable and it's time Republicans and Democrats both came together on that one issue. It just crazy to me to view what's happening right now. Does this thing that just happening out there. In the world like we're we live in a democratic society precisely so that we can exert some control and and that's part of constitutional designed by design the founders constitutional design that there are some democratic control. I mean the idea that regardless of what we have in terms of casualties that we must must respond is absurd. We have agency people are going to call for de-escalation. They're either going to call for now tonight or they're going to do it. Eighteen years from now after after what we've been in Iraq and so the bottom line is every single. Democratic presidential candidate should tonight come out and say no war with Iran every single member of the Democratic Caucus in the house and the Senate should be backing the bills by Tim Kaine am by Sanders and Kana in the House and stopping funding and stopping topping the legal auspicies for this war. Somebody's skills worse than Iraq because at least with the Iraq war in two thousand three there was a reason they put forward a reason season and so an American citizen say while there's WMD's now it turned out that that was a lie right but there wasn't articulated reason that the administration collectively is trying to put forward to tell the American people. This is why we're doing this. I have no idea why this is happening Chris. The American people likely do not understand why we are on on the brink of war with Iran and I agree with Sam. All of the Democratic candidates have a chance to step forward in this moment and show that they can be competent. They can be strong and stand on principle there. There is no reason for this and this moment we need to stay take a step back a giant step back over this cannot be a partisan listen moment the Republicans in Congress have to do the same thing. They took the same oath of office. They swore to uphold the same constitution and adjust having Democrats oppose. What's happening what the war is about without any information here but but they can't do it alone? Republicans have to say in this this case this is American lives at risk and we are going to take back the constitutional power. The Congress has the it can't be just a democratic down the the politics of of this which in some senses seemed secretaries. We await at this moment to find out if there were casualties. Both among the Iraqi against Iraqi servicemembers emmers on these Iraqi bases or American service members but of course the politics matter because the politics are part of what will produce the outcomes that happen and the decision that gets made. I mean again. This is all part of Democratic Self Governance. It does seem to me that the war weariness is very real thing it shows up in the polling. It showed up on the campaign trail. There's very very little appetite. Wait for a war with Iran. If you pull that question and even the airstrike against Sulejmani which a to my mind. Reckless escalation along this trajectory was was essentially partisan split. Like do you trust. The Democrats will have the courage of their convictions about how they navigate this. Well I have to say I mean I do you. I mean I remember you know the lead up to the Iraq war in two thousand and whatever it was three four and you know people believe the evidence that was in front of them. I never believed it. But even in the face of thousands and thousands of people taking to the streets still legislators felt a need to like go right up and march toward war. We cannot afford that to have that outcome again. And I think it's incumbent on members of Congress but the American people have to speak up and we know that they're worried because they wanted to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan in and out of the region all along now here. We are escalating again. And it's time to put a put the brakes on this coming. Both from the Congress in terms of them exercising their authorities Mickey had said but also coming from the American people saying we do not want another war in that region Gen Party. The ball is in the in the hands of the people themselves the power to declare war being Congress means that the people are supposed to make these decisions and this is what they have to show up a child meetings APP to contact their members of Congress and they have to be hurt and there should be a vote. I mean there's going to be a partner. Solution says there's going to be privileged privileged resolution and there should be there should be a vote in the United States. Senate absolutely not say I am struck by how many democratic politicians look I have very little expectations of Republicans at this point. I'm sorry about that but I am struck. By how few how how little maturation there seems to be when I look at the democratic accredit politicians who are coming out there and equivocating at this point because the American public has grown since two thousand two and to a certain extent I remember that time time vividly millions of people who are in those streets at that time and the fact is there was a lot of people who are shell shocked after nine eleven that Shell shock does not exist amongst the American American public anymore but you look at the eyes of a lot of these democratic politicians and they look like deers. If your headlights they need to lead to fight back against what is off. Obviously an attempt to draw this country into war by. Who's you know what who who's driving this bus? It's unclear but it but we cannot allow the the idea that the president of the United States can Willy Nilly create provocations. That dragged this country into this type of quagmire again. The American people have to understand why why we're entering into a military conflict. They don't know that tonight and that's a really big problem. And the communication here. I mean we just go back to say what the facts are on the ground in terms of the the latest loop. There was an attack outside Kirkuk a rocket attack there have been increasing rocketfire Adam at American forces from Shia militias in Iraq. Starting in October Tober Brett mcgurk said that hadn't happened. Eight years that part that itself was part of a escalatory cycle that started with the withdrawal from the Iran deal that kills an American American contractor back in December outside Kirkuk and killed an American contractor wounded several American service members there was a retaliatory strike by the US. It Killed Twenty five Shia militia militia members in Iraq and then that storm the embassy which was essentially disbursed with no casualties and then in response to that wildly provocative talkative s escalating act of taking out killing Qassem solely money. So that is that is the situation that has bras tonight to these reports of ground-to-ground missile. Fire from the Iranian government directed at Iraqi basis that whole both Amar Iraqi service members and American service members Donald. What do you think is happening right now? We have reports that Vice President Pence has briefed Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer Pelosi tweeted tweeted out. She's closely monitoring the situation falling bombings targeting. US troops in Iraq. We must ensure the safety of our service members including ending needless provocations.

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Iran attacks Iraqi bases housing US troops in retaliation for Soleimani's death

All In with Chris Hayes

11:06 min | 1 year ago

Iran attacks Iraqi bases housing US troops in retaliation for Soleimani's death

"Breaking news out of Iraq where we have confirmation that Iran has launched missiles missile strikes to Iraqi basis at least two Iraqi basis that also house. US forces we have no confirmation yet of the assessment of damage or casualties around the state media is now saying that Eh. They launched these two rounds of missile strikes. And this is I think important and really actually crucial we think about this moment around saying there's no there's no retaliation for America For the latest attacks. Then they will stop attacking but if America tax than their response will be crushing and widespread. It seems to me that this is a calculation nation here by the Iranian regime. At least and getting to some point that does not further. Climb up the escalatory ladder that we have now been on for quite some time and is threatening to plunged the entire region into valuable war joining me now former Republican congressman from Oklahoma Mickey Edwards. Former chair of the House Republican Policy Committee and former Democratic Congressman from Maryland. Donna Edwards also with me Sam Cedar host the majority were podcast and MSNBC Contributor Angelina Maxwell host of signal boost on Sirius Xm and an MSNBC political analyst. Donna let me start with you the the way that we talk about. This tends to resolve revolve around the president. What decision when will he make? and WHO's influencing but America's democratic nation with the constitution that gives the power to declare war the the Congress United States represents this democratic nation. All of its citizens citizens should not be in the hands of one man particularly one man with the faculties that the current president has it seems to me extremely important that across Democrat and Republican particularly Democratic Party Democrat. Cows come out strongly to say no war with Iran. This is madness and do whatever they can to halt escalation is that a possibility ability as UCLA. I do think that there will be in there. Already have been tonight really strong voices coming from speaker. Pelosi herself that we do not want a war with Iran and very sadly this is so reminiscent of where we've been before and I think it's also important for the American American people to step up and declare that there should be no war with Iran and we are at a place where you know. There's a possibility that there could be some some de escalation but it requires seen voices and cool heads to preside both in the White House which I don't expect but certainly coming out with a strong voice from Democrats in the in the Congress and I would expect others who do not want to continue. You need to put service men and women in harm's way and to jeopardize the safety of of the American People Mickey you know there's been an interesting Fisher Asia and the Republican and Conservative collision on this question We we've seen it sort of break out in the open. Sometimes rampaul was on our air earlier. Senator from Kentucky urging us not to enter into worth around. There are some conservative commentators. WHO HAVE THE president's ear who also said the same? This seems to me kind of testing ground of that. What do you you expect to see from Republicans on the hill? Well if we stay with what they have been saying for. Many many years is that we should be very cautious. Che's about going into war but they're the bigger issue here is what you were talking about Chris. So I would hope that the congress is able to back the president op and not have is go into a major war but it's also important that Congress start reasserting its primacy in the field of international affairs primacy in in terms of deciding when we go to war because it's not just this war but with this man in the in the White House or frankly any president the idea that the congress would step by now. You were the democratic voice. Chris you've been talking about and that the Congress would back off and let any president just on his own whim or any other reason take take the country into war is unacceptable and it's time Republicans and Democrats both came together on that one issue. It just crazy to me to view what's happening right now. Does this thing that just happening out there. In the world like we're we live in a democratic society precisely so that we can exert some control and and that's part of constitutional designed by design the founders constitutional design that there are some democratic control. I mean the idea that regardless of what we have in terms of casualties that we must must respond is absurd. We have agency people are going to call for de-escalation. They're either going to call for now tonight or they're going to do it. Eighteen years from now after after what we've been in Iraq and so the bottom line is every single. Democratic presidential candidate should tonight come out and say no war with Iran every single member of the Democratic Caucus in the house and the Senate should be backing the bills by Tim Kaine am by Sanders and Kana in the House and stopping funding and stopping topping the legal auspicies for this war. Somebody's skills worse than Iraq because at least with the Iraq war in two thousand three there was a reason they put forward a reason season and so an American citizen say while there's WMD's now it turned out that that was a lie right but there wasn't articulated reason that the administration collectively is trying to put forward to tell the American people. This is why we're doing this. I have no idea why this is happening Chris. The American people likely do not understand why we are on on the brink of war with Iran and I agree with Sam. All of the Democratic candidates have a chance to step forward in this moment and show that they can be competent. They can be strong and stand on principle there. There is no reason for this and this moment we need to stay take a step back a giant step back over this cannot be a partisan listen moment the Republicans in Congress have to do the same thing. They took the same oath of office. They swore to uphold the same constitution and adjust having Democrats oppose. What's happening what the war is about without any information here but but they can't do it alone? Republicans have to say in this this case this is American lives at risk and we are going to take back the constitutional power. The Congress has the it can't be just a democratic down the the politics of of this which in some senses seemed secretaries. We await at this moment to find out if there were casualties. Both among the Iraqi against Iraqi servicemembers emmers on these Iraqi bases or American service members but of course the politics matter because the politics are part of what will produce the outcomes that happen and the decision that gets made. I mean again. This is all part of Democratic Self Governance. It does seem to me that the war weariness is very real thing it shows up in the polling. It showed up on the campaign trail. There's very very little appetite. Wait for a war with Iran. If you pull that question and even the airstrike against Sulejmani which a to my mind. Reckless escalation along this trajectory was was essentially partisan split. Like do you trust. The Democrats will have the courage of their convictions about how they navigate this. Well I have to say I mean I do you. I mean I remember you know the lead up to the Iraq war in two thousand and whatever it was three four and you know people believe the evidence that was in front of them. I never believed it. But even in the face of thousands and thousands of people taking to the streets still legislators felt a need to like go right up and march toward war. We cannot afford that to have that outcome again. And I think it's incumbent on members of Congress but the American people have to speak up and we know that they're worried because they wanted to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan in and out of the region all along now here. We are escalating again. And it's time to put a put the brakes on this coming. Both from the Congress in terms of them exercising their authorities Mickey had said but also coming from the American people saying we do not want another war in that region Gen Party. The ball is in the in the hands of the people themselves the power to declare war being Congress means that the people are supposed to make these decisions and this is what they have to show up a child meetings APP to contact their members of Congress and they have to be hurt and there should be a vote. I mean there's going to be a partner. Solution says there's going to be privileged privileged resolution and there should be there should be a vote in the United States. Senate absolutely not say I am struck by how many democratic politicians look I have very little expectations of Republicans at this point. I'm sorry about that but I am struck. By how few how how little maturation there seems to be when I look at the democratic accredit politicians who are coming out there and equivocating at this point because the American public has grown since two thousand two and to a certain extent I remember that time time vividly millions of people who are in those streets at that time and the fact is there was a lot of people who are shell shocked after nine eleven that Shell shock does not exist amongst the American American public anymore but you look at the eyes of a lot of these democratic politicians and they look like deers. If your headlights they need to lead to fight back against what is off. Obviously an attempt to draw this country into war by. Who's you know what who who's driving this bus? It's unclear but it but we cannot allow the the idea that the president of the United States can Willy Nilly create provocations. That dragged this country into this type of quagmire again. The American people have to understand why why we're entering into a military conflict. They don't know that tonight and that's a really big problem. And the communication here. I mean we just go back to say what the facts are on the ground in terms of the the latest loop. There was an attack outside Kirkuk a rocket attack there have been increasing rocketfire Adam at American forces from Shia militias in Iraq. Starting in October Tober Brett mcgurk said that hadn't happened. Eight years that part that itself was part of a escalatory cycle that started with the withdrawal from the Iran deal that kills an American American contractor back in December outside Kirkuk and killed an American contractor wounded several American service members there was a retaliatory strike by the US. It Killed Twenty five Shia militia militia members in Iraq and then that storm the embassy which was essentially disbursed with no casualties and then in response to that wildly provocative talkative s escalating act of taking out killing Qassem solely money. So that is that is the situation that has bras tonight to these reports of ground-to-ground missile. Fire from the Iranian government directed at Iraqi basis that whole both Amar Iraqi service members and American service members Donald. What do you think is happening right now? We have reports that Vice President Pence has briefed Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer Pelosi tweeted tweeted out. She's closely monitoring the situation falling bombings targeting. US troops in Iraq. We must ensure the safety of our service members including ending needless provocations

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"democratic self governance" Discussed on Radio Free Nashville

Radio Free Nashville

12:10 min | 1 year ago

"democratic self governance" Discussed on Radio Free Nashville

"In particular because if we don't have the places for people to live that they can afford to live and that's a big part of why we see even more people living in their vehicles that San Francisco mayor the then mayor of science San Francisco London breed as she grew up in public housing loading you also were homeless for a time can you talk about how you were able to well you say nothing solves homelessness like a home talk about what happened with you and how you ended up not being homeless I I mean my my circumstance whatever ending up homeless was was rather different than what we see in the streets today or even that what we saw in the early nineteen eighties mind was in a high and related issue it was something that I think we've experienced for years it just there was so many fewer of us my mom died and my father didn't want us there so we ended up bouncing around in the streets I got very fortunate in that I ended up that hospitality house in the tenderloin of community organization that way predates the advent of contemporary homelessness and I became part of the fabric of the community in addressing the fact that so many of our neighbors in our community members were finding themselves with no way to live and I actually was able to use the experience that I was going through and how I was you know get over feeling sorry for one's self by helping out other community members that are even in a worse place in your in and that's how we should be managing this issue this homelessness should not be a career choice for people in poverty shouldn't be a career choice for people we should be looking at how to systemically address the massive yet and and an economic inequalities that we see the commodification of healthcare the commodification of housing education works of modifying our public parks in our public streets through business improvement districts that are now running hold neighborhoods so we need to understand that neo liberalism is killing our country and we need to really understand that there is a massive human rights organizing campaign at you know at. like with the poor people's campaign like we have to connect these issues and understand that it's not a San Francisco issue like homelessness exists this sixty two thousand shelter beds in New York City there's over fifty thousand in Chicago over forty thousand in LA this is a serious problem that's been around since Reagan cut the affordable housing budget in the early nineteen eighties and we're all living Reagan's wet dream of neo liberalism in America he called at the Reagan revolution London breed talk about the units being torn down and replaced with fewer units you didn't mention that the new units are all mixed income units so only a third of the people that were living in a public housing buildings that Clinton under hope six tore down were ever able to get back into those units in family homelessness went sky high when that program was implemented in the nineteen nineties. Jennifer freedom back can you talk about the connection between gentrification and homelessness I'm in San Francisco the enormous disparity in wealth on the attack com boom here that tech companies that have just changed the landscape of the city. yeah absolutely I mean we had an existing almost crises that was dramatically worsened we have a situation where today it's so hard to get off the streets because those informal housing arrangements are being able to move into a residential hotel share a room all these even living in a garage I mean all of these options are have you know have basically disappeared on the real estate speculation here is out of control and we have thousands of folks who lose their house in San Francisco and end up homeless and for many of them their stock homeless because there's really not a way out and you know that's a big reason why we saw a thirty percent increase in homelessness with this last almost count was because of this and and estimates are between about you know well we have some housing for homeless folks in San Francisco there's you know for everyone housing unit we have about two or three people who are stuck homeless and we have a couple more people for that each unit that are becoming homeless every year so this is a huge issue and you know who we're talking about primarily is who gets preyed on and you can look at the fiction data and see it it's seniors it's people with disabilities the poor communities where people of color lives have been particularly targeted we have rent control in San Francisco so would but we don't have a vacancy control so what that means is that if a landlord gets the household how they can Jack up the ran as much as they like so there's this huge incentive along real estate speculators to push tenants out and then that way they can they can read the unit or sell off the unit at much higher income so it's a it's a massive problem and that's why we're seeing up and down the west coast such a dramatic rise in homelessness. certain neighborhoods in San Francisco I have begun to placing boulders big gigantic rocks on sidewalks to keep people from setting up tents on the sidewalks as that tree Jennifer. yeah I mean I think it's pretty emblematic of you know the lack of any kind of action on this issue we're not we're not gonna solve this issue and it you know and it's it's tough for the neighbors of course to have homelessness out there but it's so much worse for the folks who are homeless I mean we're talking about losing decades off your life through this experience we're talking about really just you know mass of misery and the city's primary response is a police response like cities across the country to move folks from place to place in this particular situation the same can't meant had been moved around basically in a circle instead of you know solutions coming forward to get to get folks off the streets and in the housing I'm shocked yeah let's talk about those solutions for example what do you think of presidential candidate Bernie Sanders housing plan. I've looked at that really closely and it's exactly the kind of thing that we need to be talking about I think it's kind of troubling that it took trump to bring it up though for this to become infused into the presidential debate I mean Bernice had this in his platform for a while but I'm really hopeful that the other democratic camp candidates will a look at this as well because what what's going on here I mean we have millions of people who can't afford housing on minimum wage jobs we have folks with disabilities and elders that are out on our streets we have families with children I mean in San Francisco alone we have three thousand children that experience homelessness every year we have pregnant women who are ending up in preterm labor mostly African American this is affecting two more generations to come and so it's really it's really time to gets here we one of our members just the other day lost her she was pregnant and lost her baby and you know how this is really a very dramatic situation it's a huge human rights issue that this country is facing on the things about Bernese platforms at a really positive is used as looking at investing in public housing in improving the conditions and expanding public housing he's also got in there at the creation of new social housing which is kind of a type of public housing where you have childcare and and a kind of a democratic self governance that's in place that's a really beautiful concept used in in Europe in different places but you know we need to make sure that poor people in this country have a safe and decent place to call home just as a basic because there's this massive disparity everywhere in the country not just in the west coast every city in in in the country has the same problem there's no place where you can really afford rants I'm on a minimum wage job you're overpaying or you don't have enough to cover it and so we we really would like to see this be a lot take a lot more serious. Lee according to The New York Times the median home price in San Francisco is one point three million dollars Paul headline in the San Francisco Chronicle at the end of July Alameda county agrees to lease former jail to Oakland for homeless shelter as we begin to wrap up if you can say what at this point you feel needs to be done. and I think that the VA needs to get back into providing housing for veterans I think the United States department of agriculture needs to reinvigorate and respond it's housing program they used to build over thirty thousand units a year of affordable housing in rural communities those programs are completely and totally gone I think that hide needs to replace the fifty four billion dollars a year and this is every year over now for thirty five years homelessness is not new these boulders are not new the state of California puts out boulders all the time the city of Portland Oregon puts out boulders to keep people from camping there these neighbors didn't just make this up there in your waiting what it is that they see their local and state governments doing the federal government all the candidates for Democrat NY are for Republicans should be looking at the role of hide in ensuring that people have a decent place to live because housing that isn't a commodity that is it for people is a worthwhile housing program just like the homeowner housing subsidy program through the IRS which is over a hundred and forty billion dollars a year if we can afford a hundred and forty billion dollars a year and housing subsidies for homeowners we sure as hell can do better than thirty four billion dollars a year and housing subsidies for poor people. well I want to thank you both for being with us and of course we're going to continue to follow this issue not only in San Francisco and Los Angeles but around the country I wanna thank Jennifer Friedman boxing sick of director of the coalition on homelessness based as here in San Francisco and Paul Boden executive director of rap that's the western regional advocacy project a homeless advocacy group when we come back the trump administration recently revoke California's authority to set stricter auto emission standards but the state is fighting back stay with us. you. he..

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"democratic self governance" Discussed on Democracy Now! Audio

Democracy Now! Audio

10:40 min | 1 year ago

"democratic self governance" Discussed on Democracy Now! Audio

"You also were homeless for a time. Can you talk about how you were able to well. You say nothing thing solve homelessness like home talk about what happened with you and how you ended up not being homeless. I mean I mean my my circumstance of ending up. Homeless was was rather different than what we see in the streets today or even that what we saw in the early nineteen eighties mine. I was in a hud related issue. It was something that I think we've experienced for years that there was so many fewer of us. My mom died died in my father didn't want us there so we ended up bouncing around in the streets. I got very fortunate in that. I ended up at Hospitality House in the tenderloin lineup community organization that way predates the advent of contemporary homelessness and I became part of fabric of a community and addressing seeing the fact that so many of our neighbors in our community members were finding themselves with no where to live and I actually was able to use the experience that I was going through through and how I was you know get over feeling sorry for oneself by helping out other community members that are even worse place than urine and that's how we should be managing this issue. This homelessness should not be a career choice for people in poverty shouldn't be a career choice for people. We should be looking at had a systemically address. The massive economic inequalities that we see the commodification of healthcare the commodification of housing education education work commodifying public parts in our public streets through business improvement districts that are now running hold neighborhoods so we need to understand that neo liberalism is killing our country and we need to really understand that there's a massive human rights organizing campaign you know unlike with the poor people's campaign like we have to connect these issues and understand that it's not A. San Francisco issued like homelessness exists this sixty two two thousand shelter beds in New York City. There's over fifty thousand in Chicago over forty thousand in. La this is a serious problem that's been around around since. Reagan cut the audible housing budget in the early nineteen eighties and we're all living Reagan's wet dream of neoliberalism in America. He called the Reagan Revolution London breed talked about the units being torn down and replaced with fewer units. She didn't mention that the new units are all mixed income units so so only a third of the people that were living in the public housing buildings that Clinton under hope six tour down wherever able to get back into those units and family homelessness. Went Sky High when that program was implemented in the one thousand nine hundred ninety s Jennifer freedom. Can you talk about the connection between Gentrification Certification and homelessness. I mean San Francisco the enormous disparity in wealth the tech com boom here the tech tech companies that have just changed the landscape of the city. Yeah absolutely I mean. We had an existing homeless crisis. That was dramatically worsened. We have a situation where today it's so hard to get off the streets because those informal housing arrangements or being able to move into a residential gotcha hotel share a room all these even living in a garage. I mean all of these options are have have basically disappeared on the real estate. Speculation Asian here is out of control and we have thousands of folks who lose their housing in San Francisco and end up homeless and for many of them. They're stuck homeless because there's really not a way out and you know that's a big reason why we saw a thirty percent increase in homelessness with this last homeless count was because of this and estimates are between about while we have some housing for homeless folks. San Francisco There's you know for everyone. Housing Unit. we have about two or three people who are stuck homeless and we have a couple more people for each unit that are becoming homeless almost every year so this is a huge issue and you know who we're talking about. Primarily is who gets paid on and you can look at the data and see it it's seniors. It's people with disabilities. the poor communities where people of color lived have been particularly targeted we have rent control all in San Francisco so we but we don't have vacancy control so what that means is that if a landlord gets the household out they jack up the rent as much as they like so there's this huge incentive along real estate speculators to push tenants out and then that way they can they can rent the unit or sell off the unit at much higher income so it's a it's a massive problem and that's why we're seeing down the west coast such a dramatic rise in homelessness certain neighborhoods in San Francisco have begun to place boulders big gigantic rocks inside walks to keep people from setting up tents on the sidewalks. Is that True Jennifer. Yeah I mean I think it's pretty emblematic of you know the lack of any kind of action on this issue we're not we're not going to solve this issue and it. It's tough for the neighbors of course to have homelessness out there but it's so much worse for the folks who were almost. I mean we're talking about losing decades off your life through this experience. We're talking about really. Just you know Oh massive misery in the city's primary response is a police response like cities across the country to move folks from place to place in this particular situation Asian. This encampment had been moved around basically in a circle instead of solutions coming forward to get to get folks off the streets and into housing so let let's talk. Let's talk about those solutions for example. What do you think of presidential candidate Bernie Sanders Housing Plan. I've looked at that really closely and it's exactly the kind of thing that we need to be talking about. I think it's kind of troubling that it took trump to bring it up though for or this to become infused into the presidential debate I mean Bernie's had this in his platform for a while but I'm really hopeful that the other Democratic candidates will look at this as well because what what's going on here I mean we have millions of people who can't afford housing on Minimum uh-huh wage jobs. We have folks with disabilities elders that are out on our streets. We have families with children. I mean in San Francisco alone. We have three thousand children that experience. It's homelessness. Every year. We have pregnant women who are ending up in preterm labor mostly African American. This is affecting two more generations to come and so it's really it's really any time to get one of our members. Just the other day lost her she was pregnant and lost her a baby and you know. This is really a a very dramatic situation. It's a huge human rights issue that this country is facing on the things about Bernie's platforms that are really positive is he's is looking at investing in public public housing and improving the conditions expanding public housing he's also got in there the creation of new social housing which is kind of a a type of public housing where you have child care and and kind of Democratic Self Governance. That's in place that's a really beautiful concept used in in Europe in different places but you know we need to make sure that poor people in this country have a safe and decent place to call home just basic because there's this massive disparity everywhere wearing the country not just in the west coast. Every city in in in the country has the same problem. There's no place where you can really afford rent on a minimum wage job Bob. You're overpaying or you don't have enough to cover it and so we really would like to see this be a lot ticket a lot more seriously. According to the The New York Times the median home price and San Francisco is one point three million dollars. Paul a headline in the San Francisco Enciso Chronicle at the end of July Alameda County agrees to lease former jail to Oakland for homeless shelter as we begin to wrap up if you can say what at this point you feel needs to be done. I think that the VA needs to get back into providing hiding housing for veterans. I think the United States Department of Agriculture needs to reinvigorate and refund. It's housing program as to build over thirty thousand units a year ear of affordable housing in rural communities. Those programs are completely and totally gone. Hud needs to replace the fifty four billion dollars a year ear and this is every year over now thirty five years homelessness is not new. These boulders are not new. The state of California puts out boulders all the the time the city of Portland Oregon puts out boulders to keep people from camping near these neighbors didn't just make this up there enumerating what it is that they see their local and state fake governments doing the federal government all the candidates for Democrat knee or for Republicans should be looking at the role of Hud in ensuring that people people have a decent place to live because housing that isn't a commodity that is for people is a worthwhile housing program just like the Homeowner Housing Subsidy Program Rammed through the IRS which is over one hundred and forty billion dollars a year if we can afford a one hundred and forty billion dollars a year and housing subsidies as for homeowners we sure as hell can do better than thirty four billion dollars a year and housing subsidies for poor people well. I WanNa thank you both for being with us. And of course we're going to continue to follow this issue not only in San Francisco and Los Angeles but around the country I wanNA thank Jennifer Freidan Bach Executive Director of the Coalition on homelessness here in San Francisco and Paul Bodin Executive Director of rap. That's the Western regional advocacy project a homeless advocacy COSC- group when we come back the trump administration recently revoked California's authority to set stricter auto emission standards but the state is fighting back. Stay with US.

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"democratic self governance" Discussed on The Majority Report with Sam Seder

The Majority Report with Sam Seder

02:48 min | 1 year ago

"democratic self governance" Discussed on The Majority Report with Sam Seder

"Private actors being able to pick and choose their laws and and and tried to protect their own interests by getting legal gov indication of interest and today they can do this not only in their own legal system they can go to foreign legal systems and get this indication and might still be able i'm to protect us and their own domestic courts so this has you know. I think this is <hes> an additional layer. <hes> which occur tells the ability of society decided to self-govern because many members of society simply opt out of a domestic new system up into another one where it can get better rights and the local courts will still enforce awesome. That's the whole over layer of legal rules that makes it possible to so if you take this together as suggest we have to think about the where do we go from here and and <hes> you know you could become the you know radical and say we have to dismantle the entire system after study sort of four five hundred years of the system is enormously resilient and <hes> the law can go and code different types of assets you might try to resolve the issue with land and then you have to be coming back on financial assets or intellectual property rights. I i think the next big acid on the agenda data that i've been coded right now so i think we have to think in more general terms and focusing on one asset type and we have to think about the appropriate appropriate balance between <hes> private autonomy to some extent and then the prerogative of veget- slater's lawmakers more generally and i think the the the the balanced out of whack it's just a lot of private autonomy <hes> and decreasing scoop democratic self governance and that's when the final chapter of the book. I'm basically going through a list of things that we could do <hes> some of them sound rather technical and might sound rather minor. I think in combination the nation they they are actually add up to something and so just in summary basically says well. Don't you know we can't have just the bison of private autonomy without having second thoughts about about this. We have to think this through we have to maybe <hes> limit the scope of <hes> <hes> the ability of people to opt out of legal system and still get full enforceability not afterwards we have to basically regain democratic control and we have to find other ways also the domestic legal system to make sure that <hes> that the <hes> private coding cannot happen outside just increasing the actually also interesting and so the lemme. I mean just too because that's the i mean. There's so basically the option you're suggesting is we need to reform our legal codes and we need to have <hes> things like broad regulatory changes that <hes> will will democratize our are our courts in the way that we structure capital..

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"democratic self governance" Discussed on The Majority Report with Sam Seder

The Majority Report with Sam Seder

03:24 min | 1 year ago

"democratic self governance" Discussed on The Majority Report with Sam Seder

"Said. How are we going to resolve <hes> who owns this piece of property and ultimately he said his court and my court would meet in negotiate out in a third court that would figure it out. I guess and it doesn't really happen. This typically only one more way we been disputed up his fantasy fantasy world <hes> i was saying i don't understand how this is supposed to work out in the <hes> and that was that's the that is ultimately the the the dilemma is that in this sort of notion of a market that exists in the wild. There is no way to prioritize other than my armies. He's bigger than your army yeah correct and so and and of course we were talking about the legal coating rod and the physical army right well. I mean pre presumably right. Pre <hes> the enclosure movement right. It would have been like on some level but i think the beauty of it i mean i of course i mean cynically. The beauty of that is that you can do this in law aw and rather peaceful manners. I don't want to overstate the case because the enclosure physical they fought in the fields but ultimately the battle was lost a one uh-huh and depending on which side you're on our on in the courts right so so once you you basically trump form these social structures social battles into legal battles yeah and that by you you make them more peaceful at i don't. I don't want to overstate this particular case because there was also the black act post capital punishment on the communist would trespass landfill. Atlanta wasn't quite that peaceful <hes> but we still basically bringing us into the legal fold in the struggle change quite considerably and winners has a ah bitter owns a bigger <hes> backing off legitimacy on their side so <hes> for folks who are sort of like you know understanding this concept zipped and this is you know this. I think like this. This assessment is is largely diagnostic about our system but where or does that once people take that diagnosis that are that assets that capital exists only because of the law what what should they. I mean how how does that work. At what point does the rubber meets the road with this and is it. The people being aware that our political you know our economy is a function of our political decisions as represented through laws that we have created in laws that we have adopted from centuries ago. Yeah i think the rubber hits the road at a stage where we have reached the levels of inequality that we currently have which i think even both sides the rich the poor would say probably at that level. It's not sustainable and clearly for <hes> for the quest of democratic self governance. This level of inequality doesn't bode well. Let me add one more dimension to that and <hes> i don't wanna sound too nationalist on that but i i do want to bring in globalization and the globalization of law here as well because <hes> we have expanded the fear of.

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"democratic self governance" Discussed on MSNBC Morning Joe

MSNBC Morning Joe

05:31 min | 1 year ago

"democratic self governance" Discussed on MSNBC Morning Joe

"The extraordinary honor and privilege that you've just conferred on me and I know that there will be people around the place who will question the wisdom of your decision and they may even be some people here. We still wonder what what they have done and I would just because nobody they one party. No one person has a monopoly of wisdom mm but if you look at the history of the last two hundred years of his party's existence you will see that it is we conservatives who have had the best insights I think into human nature and in the best of the best inserts it how to manage the jostling sets of instincts in the human heart and time and again it is to us that the people of this country have turned to get that balance right between the instincts to own your own in house your own home to earn and spend your own money to look after your family good instincts proper instincts noble instincts the equally noble instinct to share and to give everyone one a fair chance in life and to look after the poorest and the neediest and build a great society and on the whole in the last two hundred years it is we conservatives who have understood best how to encourage those instincts instincts to work together in harmony to promote the good of the whole country and today at this pivotal moment in our history we again have to reconcile two sets of instance to noble notable sets of instincts between the deep desire for friendship and free trade and mutual support insecurity defense between Britain and our European partners and the simultaneous desire he equally deep and heartfelt for democratic self government in this country and of course there's some people say that they're in irreconcilable and they just can't be done and indeed. I read my Financial Times. This morning. Devoted reader that I am seriously great great great bridge great British I read into my Financial Times this morning that there are no incoming leader they win coming leader has ever faced such daunting set of circumstances. It said what I look at you this morning and I ask myself. Do you look don't do you feel don't need I think we I didn't think you'd have remotely don't to me and I think that we know that we can do it and the people of this country are trusting in us to do it and we know that we will do it and we know the Metro of the campaign that has just gone by in case you've forgotten it. You probably have it was going to deliver brexit unite the country and defeat Jeremy Corbyn. The someone Boris Johnson has it's been elected. The next British Prime Minister he is talking right now to the conservatives who elected him. He said with a flourish that his priorities were to deliver brexit unite the country and defeat Jeremy Corbyn he began by thanking his opponent also thanking Theresa may the former British prime minister who occasionally sometimes it actually conservative gatherings would make Boris Johnson but of her jokes and says much about what many people thought about Boris Johnson often a punchline in many British jokes regarding government <hes> but the Prime Minister Johnson talked about the delicate balance that he and Britain would be striking moving forward trying to balance their desire for Friendship Trade Defence Sir and alliances with the desire for Democratic Self Governance Ambassador Pierre since interesting. I just listened to the speech reminded that I have heard <hes> <hes> Boris Johnson's voice in my ear many times when I was listening to the Churchill factor which is a book he wrote him Winston Churchill very entertaining insightful book on what made Churchill Churchill and it reminded handed me much much as the did the reciting of his educational career that any comparisons between Donald Trump and Boris Johnson stop when it comes to educational original background and his force of his intelligence well congratulations to Mr Gunson commiserations to Mr Hunt as Johnson said the task now is to unite the country..

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"democratic self governance" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

02:57 min | 2 years ago

"democratic self governance" Discussed on KQED Radio

"They were trying to say in the in the magazine was out of many fragments of literary works. One magazine. What he he saw it as out of many states and peoples one nation, and I think what he understood really very early was that diversity difference created great strengths for the country. But what was going to create that unity? It was going to be our belief are common belief in democratic self governance. So as we look at conflict, I think it's maybe a fool's errand to try to suppress conflict. The question is do we have enough in common to hold it together? Political. Scientists have noticed that both parties are becoming more ideologically consistent. In other words, Republicans are more conservative and Democrats are more liberal than they used to be. I ask David if this kind of polarization might be leading to destructive conflict. Look, we don't know. So I want to be careful history. I'm a historian. I look backwards. I'm not so good at predicting the future anything. None of us are. So we don't know if this type of conflict is itself dangerous. I guess I'm I'm not convinced that it is. I think a much bigger concern. And if you look at for example, Gallup asked this question on a regular basis. If you ask do you have confidence in your fellow Americans to make decisions as part of our democracy, actually that number has been falling quite dramatically and the number who say that they have little or no confidence in their fellow Americans has increased sharply from about fifteen percent in the early nineteen seventies to about forty three percent today. Those are those are big numbers. I've just say I worry much more about those numbers than ideological conformity. And so on I think the question is do you have some faith in those around you even if you disagree with them sharply? Do you believe in the system are you willing when you lose to accept it? And are you going to be treated with some degree of respect when you lose as well as we think about winning and losing we have to lose with grace, and we have to win with grace as well. And maybe we just have to be careful not to let the winning and losing become a value of its own. I'm wondering as you're thinking about the long sweep of history. It's clear. There have been many many many examples where things look like they're falling apart, and they haven't and the case you make as a result is that the country's resilient. But I'm wondering if this belief in our resilience can hide the fact that sometimes actually we might be at risk in other words, it's only in hindsight that you know, that a certain thing turned out well or badly in the moment, how do you know, which way it's going to go, right? So I thank you need to look at is the culture of democracy strong enough to hold us together. That's the question. I keep asking. How do you know you need to look at your politicians? Look at the ones on your side who agree with you. And do you see them ever putting democracy in second place? And how often do they do? So I'll leave it to listeners to to make.

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"democratic self governance" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

02:58 min | 2 years ago

"democratic self governance" Discussed on KQED Radio

"And what they were trying to say in the in the magazine was out of many fragments of literary works. One magazine. What he he saw it as out of many states and peoples one nation, and I think what he understood really very early was that diversity difference created great strengths for the country. But what was going to create that unity? It was going to be our belief are common belief in democratic self governance. So as we look at conflict, I think it's a fool's errand to try to suppress conflict. The question is do we have enough in common to hold it together? Political. Scientists have noticed that both parties are becoming more ideologically consistent. In other words, Republicans are more conservative and Democrats are more liberal than they used to be. I asked David if this kind of polarization might be leading to destructive conflict. Look don't know. So I want to be careful history. I'm a historian. I look backwards. I'm not so good at predicting the future. And the thing. None of us are so we don't know if this type of conflict is itself dangerous. I guess I'm I'm not convinced that it is. I think a much bigger concern. And if you look at for example, Gallup asked this question on a regular basis. If you ask do you have confidence in your fellow Americans to make decisions as part of our democracy, actually that number has been falling quite dramatically and the number who say that they have little or no confidence in their fellow Americans has increased sharply from that fifteen percent in the early nineteen seventies to forty three percent today. Those are those are big numbers. I've just say I worry much more about those numbers than ideological conformity. And so on the I think the question is do you have some faith in those around you even if you disagree with them sharply? Do you believe in the system are you willing when you lose to accept it? And are you going to be treated with some degree of respect when you lose as well as we think about winning and losing we have to lose with grace, and we have to win with grace as well. And maybe we just have to be careful not to let the winning and losing become a value. It's on. I'm wondering as you're thinking about the long sweep of history. It's clear. There have been many many many examples where things look like they're falling apart, and they haven't and the case you make as a result is that the country's resilient. But and wondering if this belief in our resilience can hide the fact that sometimes actually we might be at risk in other words, it's only in hindsight that you know, that a certain thing turned out well or badly in the moment, how do you know, which way it's going to go, right? So I think you need to look at is the culture of democracy strong enough to hold us together. That's the question. I keep asking. How do you know you need to look at your politicians? Look at the ones on your side who agree with you. And do you see them ever putting democracy in second place? And how often do they do it? So I'll leave it to listeners to to.

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"democratic self governance" Discussed on Talking Politics

Talking Politics

04:21 min | 2 years ago

"democratic self governance" Discussed on Talking Politics

"When America was founded the people founded it, what was their idea of what made it different in how it was going to conduct self in the world. Well, it was an experiment in democratic self governance or it was an experiment in Republican self-governance. And that's the thing. The first and foremost made it different at the time. Americans felt very much part of the world. Certainly American meats felt very much a part of the world. They were part of the British empire, and they still wanted to be very much a part of the world, but they also wanted to separate themselves to a certain extent from what was going on in Britain and from how Britain saw the world and what the mother country thought was best for the American colonies. So what was the moral mission back in the founding days? I'm not sure there was a moral mission aside from self determination or what would later be called self determination and founding a new country. There was certainly a lot of motivating ideas behind the American founding that we're moral in terms of self governance and representation in democracy and republicanism, and the American founders certainly wanted to. Read those ideas, but not necessarily as we think American foreign policy wants to spread those ideas today, was there a point in the nineteenth century may be niece as three through the twenty century where the reality of being America in the world kind of took some of the ideas that they might have had at the beginning about what it was to project abroad and somehow reality overtook the theory. Yeah. In the late nineteenth century in eighteen ninety eight when America went to war with Spain over Cuba and then the Philippines got dragged in to the war because the Philippines was a Spanish colony. It became a theater of the Spanish American war. That's the real break point in American foreign relations history. When the cliche is when the United States sort of stepped onto the world stage as a great power. It was a great power even before that. But it's when Americans started thinking differently about the world and that they might have to not always not consistently, but. They might have to engage with the world in order to change it not only for moral reasons or normative reasons, but also for security reasons before that American foreign policy was guided by the principle of the Monroe doctrine from eighteen twenty three, which separated the world and said to the Europeans, you stay in your half the world. We'll stay in our half of the world and we're not going to meddle in each other's affairs. We'll still trade and we'll still have cultural relations, but we won't get involved in each other's political affairs in that changed irrevocably in eighteen ninety eight ninety nine. We'll tell that story Ford in the second, but you've written about this. What role does religion play in how America projects Abreu? Because it's something that I think most people tend to think is a negligible feature, but it's not right. Certainly over the last twenty years, it hasn't been a negligible feature under George W Bush. And of course a lot of the opponents. The United States has been fighting in al-qaeda and other groups, and in Iran, including American allies as well in Saudi Arabia or Israel. Region is a salient hugely salient factor. As commentator said after nine eleven religion was brought back into American foreign policy brought back into international relations. I would argue that it was always there and what nine eleven did was it gave it a new kind of prominence. What religion is done historically is provided kind of conscience for American foreign policy because for a lot of American history, the United States didn't have to intervene for security reasons or for economic reasons. And so it had a lot of choice in foreign policy. In fact, most of American foreign policy history up until the mid twentieth century was a foreign policy of choice almost everywhere. The US fought was a war of choice. And so if you're in those circumstances where you have total choice than it, let's other factors other than we need to defend ourselves rise to the surface and America's very religious country. And it has a very decentralized political system where very highly mobilized religious Americans could make their influence felt on Washington to steer foreign policy. In a certain direction because that's one of the challenges of trying to make sense of how America projects abroad, which is to do from policy to do diplomacy, even is on the whole to have a single identity single voice..

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"democratic self governance" Discussed on C-SPAN Radio

C-SPAN Radio

04:34 min | 2 years ago

"democratic self governance" Discussed on C-SPAN Radio

"How does my vice over friends reconcile the check a statement with the recent repeal of the nineteen seventytwo act under the withdrawal act and also with the including the european court of justice democratic self governance in this country can i say to my honorable friend that we have indeed as he said in the withdrawal act with repealed the european communities act but we have also ensured that we will take into you keilor at the point at which we leave the european union eu law such that we see a smooth and orderly brexit in the future the european court of justice will not have jurisdiction over the united kingdom and this parliament will make suffering decisions this parliament will first of all make us offering decision when the withdrawal other meaningful vote in the withdrawal and implementation bills are bought before this house as to whether this parliament is willing to accept the deal that has been negotiated and thereafter it will be up to this parliament to decide whether it agrees with any changes in rules or any laws that this parliament wants to pass that is the sovereignty taking back laws taking back control of our laws that is what i believe people want and that is what we will do vincent cable congratulate the prime minister for effectively killing off the united states uk trade agreement by agreeing to retain you regulatory convergence which of course we americans cannot accept could i also echo they call she's just heard to say that now she's lost the support of her brexit fundamentalist now is the time to have a national consensus majority in the house who do support retaining membership of the customs union and the single market the original common market whatever name of label she wants to attack and i say to the gentleman he refers as the leader of the snp did to staying in the single market and staying in the customs union we will not be staying in the single market we will not be saying in the customs union to do those would involve as keeping free movement and that would not be keeping faith with the vote of the british people there will be an end to free movement from the european union into this country as a result of us leaving the european union mr speaker could i commend the prime minister all this plan and in particular she liked her on the her leadership mr speaker the prime minister said that she would listen to business and she clearly has lessened to business however there are concerns that there are new details about the government's plan for services what can we expect to hear in the forthcoming white paper say to defend the will be more determined forthcoming paper but the point about services is a variety of reasons not least because this is an important sector for the united kingdom we believe it is important to maintain more flexibility in how we're dealing with with services on the good side industrial good side businesses are very clear that they would continue to meet those e rules regardless of the position that the government took because they want to continue to export into the european union on services we want to be free to ensure that we are able to put in place what we believe is necessary to maintain our key position in services not least on the financial services where the global financial center of the city of london needs to be maintained into the future and we will continue to do that hilary benn the prime minister welcome the new sexy st joe's post can i join her doing so say that we look forward to seeing him appearing before the selectivity very soon indeed the government has indicated that the facilitated customs arrangement even assuming that the eu were to agree to it question about which there must be a great deal of data would only be fully operational by the time of.

"democratic self governance" Discussed on First Mondays

First Mondays

04:23 min | 2 years ago

"democratic self governance" Discussed on First Mondays

"He he held up philosophy for his whole life and later got him coated as a conservative because he wasn't sort of voting the right way civil rights cases and he's sort of gotten out run by history but bet is one alternative you could just sort of you know the view could be democratic self governance and if you want power organizing gets on don't expect these black robe krista kratz save you i've always found that more persuasive then i think it you know suggested very fear criticism of the justices on the right which is that know justice scalia was always you know yelling about you know judges seizing control of democratic process at cetera and then as soon as you know they've got the majority they're doing that on grounds that trick me as just as implausible in cases like janus where we think justice scalia probably within the majority before he died so i that strikes me as just more intellectually honest and defensible but it also requires progressives to you know give up allegiance to some of the things that they've held most era like like row right like what you know what did you ro you know my view on roe is whatever you think about the merits of the issue like i don't see how if it really is true that the majority of the country doesn't want row and that's debatable that's not true that's not how i read the opinion polls i've you know conservatives argue with say no lot of people don't like abortion you know they have their own opinion polls but if it really is true that there's like half the country that is just absolutely determined to not have row it's very hard to just say okay court you're going to keep doing this like forever right because it turns out that those people vote and those people care about judicial nominations those people vote for presidents who are going to try to give them what they want and you know if it turns out that it's like the continued existence of roe versus wade had an enormous influence on the election of donald trump as president of the united states which is a plausible theory if you're progressive you know you have to like think about that is that that's especially when you look at the limits of what courts are really able to achieve like okay rohan casey or the law abortion clinics are there in mississippi one right and you know you could sort of tell a story about that all the way down the line where it's like you know we forget that yet all these great civil rights decisions like brown v board you know that's wonderful but it required like president eisenhower sending in the national guard to enforce that decision because there was political will to do it in the nation will ultimately real civil rights progress meaning required you know social movements and legislative change the court can yes much right well and it required ironically things like the voting rights act which is now probably in it's like shakiest position that it has ever been because of this kind of you know halfcentury love affair between the left and essentially undemocratic aristocratic institution whose members are mostly drawn from society's elite and who you know are not remotely responsive to the kind of democratic organizing that if you're on the political left you should really see your core strategy you can't have a rank and file pressure movement against the supreme court just doesn't work and so the vision for the future might be just a much smaller role for the spring court in american life i think with this s clear example illustrates because i do think that there's some fairness to that criticism is these constraints have to be imposed from the outside by congress shrink the jurisdiction of the courts changed their composition you whatever you're going to do whatever rules you up with can't be internal to the judicial philosophy because basically nobody can resist temptation when it's their turn yeah so he's gotta stop them you know my view is if you're progressive you'd prefer if the choices between you know really aggressive imperialist courts putting aside e g and really sort of minimalist courts you should prefer the latter because progressives actually do have the votes of these issues right like why don't you don't you don't necessarily need to rely on camera georgia in courts to enforce these rights you know i think our bergeford is really interesting example because they are.