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Mark Levin
Chip Roy: Republicans Should Not Vote for Latest Debt Ceiling Bill
"Now the rebuttal There's chip Roy at a press conference today cut for a go My colleagues We very clear not one Republican should vote for this deal It is a bad deal No one sent us here To borrow an additional $4 trillion To get absolutely nothing in return But at best if I'm being really generous a spending freeze for a couple of years That's it That's about what you get And frankly you're going to make things worse and my democratic colleagues know it That's why they're supporting it Well a lot of them are not supporting it actually But go ahead Around gleeful There's a reason our Democrat colleagues support this There's a reason that Mitt Romney supports this There's a reason that Bill kristol supports this It's all the same stuff There's a reason also I guess Newt Gingrich Steve Moore I mean that's why I said at the opening of the show don't get caught up in who supports and who opposes you your own brain Your own noggin Analyze it yourself I get texts and emails Did you know this You ought to think that nothing's more annoying I said I'll wait till it comes out Go ahead There's a reason that our conservative allies are opposing it Roundly The quote for growth scoring against it The heritage foundation scoring against it Freedom works scoring against it Ron DeSantis publicly opposed President Trump said he thought we should default rather than pursue this kind of lunacy At the end of the day the only camp that we know in all due respect That's not what he did during his presidency
AP News Radio
Biden and GOP reach debt-ceiling deal. Now Congress must approve it to prevent calamitous default
"An agreement on the debt deal has been reached. Now that President Biden and House speaker Kevin McCarthy have reached an agreement in principle, a House vote has been scheduled. We're going to put the bill on the floor in 72 hours and facet. But democratic congressman Jim heims on Fox News Sunday isn't so sure. It's not done yet, and all you need to do is check the social media of the freedom caucus who are just obliterating this deal. A House vote is expected to take place Wednesday, support from both parties will be needed to win congressional approval before a projected June 5th government default. I'm Shelley Adler.
AP News Radio
Debt ceiling talks teeter on the brink, as lawmakers leave town for weekend without a deal
"House Republicans are pushing debt ceiling talks to the brink. The nation now stands a week from the so called X date when the Treasury Department says it may start running out of cash to pay its bills and face a first ever debt default. House speaker Kevin McCarthy says there are still outstanding issues and reaching a budget deal with The White House. And I've directed our teams to work 24/7 to try to solve this problem. While McCarthy says every hour matters. It is unfortunate that House Republicans have chosen to get out of town before sundown. Top House democratic team Jeffries blasting a decision to depart for the holiday weekend. Lawmakers are tentatively not expected back until Tuesday, just two days from the X date, Sagar Meghani, Washington.
Mark Levin
Jamie Raskin: The 14th Amendment Not an Option, It Is an Imperative
"I want to show you what kind of a communist Jamie Raskin is He was bred from a communist father He was involved intimately in trying to remove Donald Trump fresh trying to prevent him from being sworn in as one of a handful of objectors on the floor of the House Then he worked both impeachment trials both Jamie rashkin who's a red And he's a liar And he's in the morning schmo show today and Joe Scarborough gives him a platform to lie and Joe Scarborough therefore is lying with him He knows damn well the Fourteenth Amendment is not an option Let's start cut 7 Go Well nobody seems to know but the positive development in my mind development in my mind is that on the democratic side people understand that the Fourteenth Amendment is not an option as people have been saying the Fourteenth Amendment is an imperative Now Fourteenth Amendment's not an option It's an imperative says Jamie Raskin This clown was teaching constitutional law at one point Which means he was teaching lies And there's nobody there to challenge him The Fourteenth Amendment provides no cover any more than the 13th of the 15th or any other amendment to the constitution The constitution was not amended to eviscerate the House of Representatives It's not an imperative It's a fantasy but the marxists don't care I've told you this a thousand times They will turn the constitution into a meaningless pretzel That's what they'll do They hate it from top to bottom Because you can not be A so called progressive AKA Marxist And support the American system You can not
AP News Radio
South Carolina poised to enact six-week abortion ban
"To the list of states with near total abortion bans as fights continuing courts and state houses around the country. Lawmakers in South Carolina passed a 6 week abortion ban North Carolina lawmakers overrode the democratic governor's veto of a 12 week ban. Nebraska also passed a 12 week ban am Montana judges weighing restrictions, 14 states currently a bans on abortion at all stages of pregnancy. A federal court is deciding whether to uphold the judge's ruling, rescinding approval for the abortion pill mifepristone, which remains on the market for now. Meanwhile, Planned Parenthood is laying off up to 15% of its national staff and sending more money to affiliates to focus on state politics, while anti abortion groups Susan B. Anthony is working to get more of their candidates elected
AP News Radio
Texas governor sent bill abolishing position of Harris County elections chief
"The Republican controlled Texas legislature has approved a bill that would abolish the position of elections administrator and Harris county, which includes Houston, only months before that city chooses a new mayor. The bill headed to Republican governor Greg Abbott would return elections oversight in Harris county to the tax assessor and county clerk. Both of which are elected offices currently held by Democrats. Harris county is a democratic stronghold, with more than 2 million voters. The proposed changes come after last year's elections in which local officials have acknowledged problems that included paper ballot shortages and delayed poll openings. Republican candidates have challenged losses in races across the county. However, there has been no evidence that the issues affected the outcomes. Those elections were run by the Harris county elections administrator. I'm Mike Hempen.
Mark Levin
Rep. Chip Roy: Biden Still Lives in 'Fantasyland' Over Debt Ceiling
"All right Joe Biden doesn't want to negotiate to the extent as people have spoken They want to blow the budget through the roof as well as the debt I spent a lot of time on this Sunday on Fox as well as behind this microphone chip Where are we today do you know So I don't have the latest and greatest because I'm in the rules committee where we're actually fighting over student loans and a bunch of other stupid bills from our democratic colleagues We're trying to stop them But what I do have for my last conversation with Kevin earlier today I know he was meeting with the president today news reports are at the tone was better but they don't have an agreement The fact is the president is still living in fantasy land that they can just straight up ignore our common sense positions while they try to enrich enrich the elite through the use of their government and corporate cronyism policies right That's the bottom line Our efforts and what we're trying to do is not just about money People are losing sight I think it's just about dollars and cents in debt for the sake of it It's not Although that's important it's about ending the subsidization of the things that are against the American Dream and every hardworking American family out there Stop funding an FBI that's undermining our freedom and this politicized and going after the former president and going after Scott Smith and loudoun county you know all too well because you know that area And you know it's about stopping the subsidy of a great big $1 billion corporations with all these Green New Deal subsidies And it's about ending an IRS expansion which targets the poor minorities more than anybody else This is about propping up their rich elitist buddies and advancing a radical of this agenda They know it They know the American people are onto it We've got them in a corner We've got them on the ropes Now we've got to finish this off and make sure we do something right for America
The Breakdown
Biden Defaulting on the Debt to Own the Crypto Bros?
"Well Friends the president has gone and again made the debt ceiling political for the crypto crowd. And so today we are diverting temporarily from our normal Bitcoin and crypto industry coverage to move into the most significant market issue right now, which is the debt ceiling debate. This will serve as a bit of a primer. I will avoid the temptation to get political with it, as always, and we'll just try to understand exactly where we are going into this critical week. Right now, the debt ceiling is currently at nearly $31.4 trillion, with around 24.6 trillion held as bonds by investors, private institutions, and other market actors. The U.S. debt is the largest of any nation state, exceeding the amount currently outstanding for the next four countries combined. In mid January, the limit of borrowing was reached, leading the US Treasury to begin what's known as extraordinary measures to stretch the remaining cash a little further. These measures trim budget expenditure around the edges by deferring time and sensitive spending, such as making contributions into government worker savings plans, and topping up the assets held in the exchange stabilization fund. Earlier this month, treasury secretary Janet Yellen announced that despite these measures, the treasury looked set to run out of cash by the beginning of next month, leaving officials precious little time to sort out a deal. The negotiations had been ongoing for the better part of the last few weeks, although heading into the weekend the tone had soured. Earlier last week, both President Biden and House Republican speaker Kevin McCarthy, who is heading up negotiations for the GOP, expressed optimism that a deal could be close. And yet as the weekend rolled around, no deal was there to be had. Now part of the reason is that the two parties are very far apart in terms of what they want. The GOP are asking for significant budget cuts. In particular, they're looking for cuts across social spending by ramping up work requirements for government aid, as well as kneecapping flagship democratic policies like clean energy incentives with the inflation reduction act, and additional funding for the IRS. Last month, Republicans passed a House bill which would suspend the debt ceiling until March of next year, but the bill contains such deep spending cuts that it was viewed as a nonstarter for Senate Democrats to consider.
AP News Radio
Nebraska Gov. to sign 12-week abortion ban, restrictions on gender-affirming health care for minors
"Nebraska's Republican governor Jim Helen is set to sign a 12 week abortion ban and restrictions on gender affirming healthcare for minors. The abortion ban would take effect immediately the restrictions on gender affirming care would take effect October 1st, Nebraska's conservative led legislature passed the bill that included the two contentious issues Friday after hours of heated debate. The law restricting gender affirming care was the flash point of an epic filibuster led by democratic Omaha senator Michaela kavanagh, who slowed the business of passing laws to a crawl, Bill opponents have promised to sue to try and block the law. North Carolina recently passed a 12 week abortion law, which takes effect July 1st. I'm Julie Walker
AP News Radio
Michigan governor to sign red flag bill
"Michigan's democratic governor is set to sign a bill today, imposing a red flag gun law. The law would allow family members police, mental health professionals, roommates, and former dating partners to petition a judge to remove firearms from those they believe pose an imminent threat to themselves or others. Questions remain over whether Michigan would see better success in enforcing red flag laws than other states have local sheriffs have told The Associated Press, they won't enforce the law if they don't believe it's constitutional. Over half the state's counties have passed resolutions declaring themselves Second Amendment sanctuaries, opposing laws they believe infringe on gun rights. I'm Julie Walker
AP News Radio
North Carolina Gov. vows to give women most access possible with new abortion ban
"North Carolina's democratic governor vows to give women the most access possible following the state's new 12 week abortion ban, which takes effect July 1st. Meanwhile, Nebraska's legislature also passed a 12 week abortion ban and restrictions on gender affirming care for minors. North Carolina governor Roy Cooper had vetoed the legislation, but the states Republican led assembly voted to override that veto. We're going to make sure that this bill gets implemented in a way that we provide the most access possible to women. He also says the bill was contradictory, conflicting, confusing, and open to interpretation while not a compromise. This is in no way a reasonable compromise as Republicans have presented it. It's a compromise between the right wing and the radical right wing. Cooper made his comments on NBC's meet the press. I'm Julie Walker.
AP News Radio
New York City has a right to shelter, but will it establish a right to sleep outside?
"New York City has a right to shelter, but will it establish a right to sleep outside? If the democratic mayor allows the city council's homeless Bill of rights to become law, it would make New York the first big U.S. city to establish an explicit right to sleep in at least some public places. A right to rest proposal in Oregon died and attempts to establish similar bills in California have faltered. LA has measures that prohibit sleeping on the streets, the increasing visibility of the homeless hasfield public frustration and prompted politicians to act, much to the chagrin of some advocates for the homeless. Julie Walker, New York
AP News Radio
Feinstein's office details previously unknown complications from shingles illness
"There are new details about complications from an illness involving senator Feinstein. I'm Lisa dwyer. The office of democratic senator dianne Feinstein says she is suffering from Ramsay hunt syndrome, a complication from the shingles virus that can paralyze part of the face, Feinstein's office said she contracted encephalitis while recovering from the shingles virus earlier this year. Feinstein, who was 89 years old, had not previously disclosed those medical details, though she said in a statement last week that she had suffered complications the longtime California senator returned from a more than two month absence on May 10th, Feinstein has faced questions for several years about her declining health and her mental acuity. In February, Feinstein said she would not run for reelection in 2024. Feinstein has been a senator for more than three decades. I'm Lisa dwyer
AP News Radio
Biden's reelection campaign sees 'viable pathways' to 2024 election win
"President Biden's reelection campaign is laying out its strategy for winning a second term. The campaign's Bill to round a simple premise. This time to finish the job. And its chief says there are a number of viable pathways to making that happen by getting 270 electoral votes in a memo campaign manager Julie Chavez Rodriguez says the goal is to hold battlegrounds Biden won in 2020, like Michigan and Pennsylvania, but also compete where he lost, such as North Carolina and Florida. Rodriguez writes the race affords significant opportunities to boost democratic support and the campaign will rely heavily on leveraging voters social circles.
AP News Radio
Democrat Cherelle Parker wins primary for Philadelphia mayor
"Democrat charel Parker won Philadelphia's mayoral primary Tuesday setting her up as the first woman to serve in the role. Parker emerged from a crowded field of 5 FrontRunner democratic candidates, her win was a disappointment to progressives who rallied around Helen Jim, who was backed by senator Bernie Sanders and representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The Philadelphia race serves as a barometer of how residents of some of the nation's largest cities hope to emerge from the pandemic, which heightened concerns about crime, poverty, and inequity. In another race, voters in Allegheny county, which encompasses the state's second largest city of Pittsburgh, picked sitting state lawmaker Sarah in a murano as their democratic nominee to face the lone Republican contender, Joseph rocky in the November general election. I'm Julie Walker
AP News Radio
Democrats keep Pennsylvania House majority, positioning party to prevent limits on abortion rights
"Democrats keep their narrow Pennsylvania House majority, positioning the party to prevent limits on abortion rights. I'm Julie Walker, Democrat Heather Boyd, won a special election Tuesday in the Philadelphia suburbs, beating Republican Katie Ford, the victory means first term democratic governor Josh Shapiro will have at least one chamber to aid his agenda and could also affect a proposed constitutional amendment limiting abortion rights that legislative Republicans are one house floor boat away from putting before voters as a referendum. In a second House special election,
AP News Radio
North Carolina GOP overrides veto of 12-week abortion limit, allowing it to become law
"North Carolina Republicans have overwritten a veto of a 12 week abortion limit, allowing it to become state law. I Norman hall, legislation banning most abortions after 12 weeks of pregnancy will become law in North Carolina after the state's Republican controlled General Assembly successfully overrode the democratic governor's veto. The house completed the second and final part of the override after a similar three fifths majority voted for the override in the state Senate, the outcome represents a major victory for Republican legislative leaders who needed every GOP member on board to enact the law over a governor Roy Cooper's opposition. I Norman hall
AP News Radio
Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear to face Republican Daniel Cameron in November
"Kentucky governor Andy beshear will have to face Republican Daniel Cameron in November. I Norman hall, attorney general Daniel Cameron has won the Republican primary for Kentucky governor and will face democratic governor Andy beshear in November. Cameron was endorsed by former president Donald Trump and emerged victorious from a 12 candidate field that included former United Nations ambassador Kelly craft and state agriculture commissioner Ryan quarles, Cameron would be the state's first black governor if elected, the race now shifts to the general election in November when the share will face a tough reelection bid in the Republican dominated state. I Norman hall
Revolutions
"democratic" Discussed on Revolutions
"Place their own terms on coalition with the right-leaning socialists. They said the pre parliament can certainly form and can advise the government but in no way. Will the government be answerable to it and the right-leaning socialists. Were so desperate to get the liberals and cadets to join with them that they agreed to these terms and so alexander kerensky began forming a coalition government. That would reign until the constituent assembly basically approved by no one and rooted in nothing. This is the political context. We need to keep in mind as we head into red october and the reason we spent so much time today talking about the nature of legitimacy and sovereignty is that clearly by october nineteen seventeen. There was just none of it to speak of as we will discuss next week. Lenin who still often. Finland is now absolutely going out of his mind yelling at his comrades in the central committee that now is the time to strike now now now right now we cannot wait if we do it now. We're going to win all that we will be doing. His overthrowing an illegitimate government that no one supports anyway. His comrades in the central committee were incredibly skeptical. But you know what lenin wasn't wrong.
MIP Make It Plain with Mark Thompson
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"Stay at grace Sloan with the people she loves or start a new chapter. Plus, did you see who showed back up in Mary's life last week? Can't wait to see where this is going. Don't miss an all new Grey's Anatomy Thursday at 9 8 central on ABC and stream it on Hulu. This is multiplying. With massive melatonin. Mark Thompson. Get wow. Good morning, again. Welcome to another edition of make it plain. Glad to have with us once again from the democratic coalition and he's known on Twitter as.
Sandy and Nora talk politics
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The Tel Aviv Review
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"You can moderate them. You can weaken them. But you're right. If these minority coaches grew then a new support their schools and so on then at some stage in in in in the future. There's a danger. It might be too late and i'm not sure what to say about that. Just gets back to what you the argument that you just made. Which is that if the state continues to support religious education. That's one thing but they may need to insist. And i was about to prompt you but you said it yourself To insist not only on marketable skills but unskilled train people to understand. The value of the common good democratic values shared society. Also the disservice show showed very weak trust for all democratic institutions the supreme court and so on especially the supreme court. Because there's that's where you have a contradiction of authority. Yeah it seems to me having read the book and also having listened to what you say now that you think that institutionally at least israel has struck a pretty good balance between state and religion in public in public life. Barring several a need addressing. Am i wrong or do you think that the somewhere that should be a more radical changes made. I mean this is one of the. Most visceral controversies in israeli life. The secularist think that everything is about to be destroyed because there's too much intervention and the religious people feel like the jewish people are almost lost. Because there's not enough to some in israel. Where do you stand. Yoga's is interesting. The cigarette perception ziv. The you know the the the religious did the team kind of taking over. you know. we can't breathe here in the country. Everything is is imposed upon us by religion on. This is so far from reality. A guy ben porat with now also. The idea road wrote a book which appeared motion independent hebrew showing how in awe in relevant areas chabad and conversion i wherever things have become much more sacred than they used to be thirty forty years ago. I mean either way. This book was discussed on the tel aviv. Review in the very beginning off. The podcast was years ago but he was here when it came out. Probably two thousand fourteen. Yeah so you may remember. When i was a child or a teenager. Maybe forty years ago. There were demonstrations every chabad because in the place near tel-aviv does one cinema that opened on shabazz's the hud cinema on it was a big scandal. Who who then ever dreamt of shopping malls opening on chabad as you know today shabas become the shopping day for many israelis on the. There's there's no political power thinking israel today but shutdown the shopping malls a and you walk into on about. You wouldn't know each about amino every almost everything is open of course the restaurants and also some more if you go to the tel aviv portland. You know in any case so in the actual dynamics is such that the country is much more secular. At least i'm not now. There are more the religious specially the But relation has grown okay. But that doesn't really affect the think the the the day today life of the secular. Okay so in. That case i think the kind of the panic or the the the anxiety the that the no the country is becoming too religious. Actually the opposite is is what's going on. I should but among the non haredi the rare religious the the the level of secularization is so high. Talking about the thing. I would drink a fifty percent of the kids now. Today who grew up who grew up in religious families become secular. There is very good tracking on this stuff largely from mother who had on the show. And it's not that high but it but there isn't attrition rate for both ultra-orthodox and national religious and it's higher among national religious. But i don't think it's quite as high as you said. But it's there isn't attrition rate. Yes i guessed thirty forty percents that would be my guess but also depends how you define these things in any case so so in that case. There's so in that sense. I think the there's no way there's no room for bunny. Frank for anxiety about dot however i don't think the balance is is to go back to your question get either. Don't think is a good one. I think we need serious reforms regarding khashru regarding family low regarding the redeem. There's a whole whole package of things that need need need to be done. We need to reduce the the the birth rates among among hurry dame we need we need to find ways of really changing their way of life of getting them out of the chevanton in in in the in the world market and so on. So there's a lot to be done. And i don't think we need these additional the the rabbinate the brutal sheet with the team rabbit robert and we we don't we don't need that institution. So there's there's a lot to be done okay. I think we'll hopefully that unfortunately because we could probably talk about this for a longtime professor daniel stedman thank you for being on the show and talking about your recent book co authored with you. Don't superior called state and religion israel. It's been a pleasure to have you thank you very much and thanks also tweet. I show them or station manager. And reo cohen. Our producer end to the israel democracy institute for their generous support. Now a request. Many or most of you. Listen to us on. The apple podcasts app. And we'd like to ask you to please consider writing a review..
The Tel Aviv Review
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"That's why you know in the past. Maybe even today some rabbis when they officiated ceremonies weddings. I mean of secretary couples. They intentionally something in the hooper so the marriage would be invalid directly certain. No nobody would notice the except for people who understood. Nobody would realize that this would mean that if one day they separated and so on from annella point of view there are not really married seems to no purpose. You mentioned the funding for religious schools. Several times and i think it needs to be unpacked because in israel it's not just about the funding for religious schools and i think that the state funds plenty of cultural activities that are not do not cater to everybody from. I don't know a quality cinema to classical music and other other things like that. So i don't think that in principle as you say Funding for religious purposes is is wrong per se but when it comes to religious schools and this has been in the debate in israel sometime. It's not just about the funding it's also about the interference all the oversight of the state when it comes to the to the curriculum etc. How do you see this relationship between the state and religious institutions not just in terms of funding but in terms of an agenda right what the state decides that it should have as its core values and when it comes to education. The core values are preparing pupils for life in a modern economy. Were which is something that they don't get in religious schools absurdity so we talked about this in in the chapter education. So i think you're referring to the haredi to which look scores and i totally agree that the state should be a far much clearer. An inconsistent in enforcing a curriculum under conditioning the funding of these schools on teaching math and english and a bit of computers and so on on unscrews. Who won't do that. Should shouldn't be funded at all in our view. And it's not all about. It's not only about these basic skills it's also about in democracy and solidarity a so. We saw that in in you know in the endemic the sense of many people in the haredi community that it's not their problem that the giving their own you know in their neighborhoods. They're not they. Don't feel dorothy with the with the entire israeli society and this is something that the educational system should work on a now regarding the the religious non haredi schools. The different brolin. Unfortunately a think of sometimes programmatic anti-democratic some sometimes racist views. Taught in some of these places especially in the southern but not only there and i think he here here here to the states would be should. Intervene should enforce classes on democracy. Should you know core principles you know. Ask them to get report. What's going on in their scores. And in an shouldn't let this go under the radar in the guise of some multicultural argument. So i i completely agree. So so what does the multicultural argument end. And what it start because you know there are some things that you say that proton emissions be respected and should be allowed because they are a majority in certain communities should be allowed to call their own shots and then comes to other things you say that the state should it should interfere. How how does it work in terms of of the actual state mechanisms. Yeah so. I don't think there's any clear way of answering this. Question it depends. It's a question of worldwide. Not only about right. I want to respect some some minority culture in the some aspects of that culture. You don't really like some aspects of the culture you don't i can tolerate. Some are intolerable. There's no clear way of handling this. Give an example of something. I think we we as liberals can't tolerate and the that these some policies league regarding the different attitude to boys and girls men and women okay so even if we know that some synagogue won't let we mean have an active role in in in the synagogue. That's why wouldn't be a reason in my view to stop funding that synagogue or if you think of religious schools were in a separate between boys and girls that wouldn't be a reason not not to support them so that would be a place where we're liberals would kind of show tolerance to to practice. We don't really support. We don't really agree with but we tolerate them but the thing regarding The point you you you. You mentioned the fundamental skis loyalty to stay democratic values which these should be enforced in all schools in israel. Well this raises a question for me. That goes a little bit beyond. But i think is your philosophical argument. That doesn't have to be inherent contradiction between liberal democracy and religion. Some ways to what i see from my perspective In my day job which is a public opinion researcher. And that's that we find that you know the the level of support what we consider traditional liberal values you know civil rights human rights equality of people in democracy are simply a less supported the more religious community and that is essentially a straight graph so the more secular the more people support these things the more religious whether it's between the traditionalists or the national religious or the ultra-orthodox people just don't place a priority on those values so at the systemic level. I read the argument. And i think it's compelling. Do you have any wisdom for how we can deal with the fact that the people themselves don't seem necessarily to subscribe to the same kinds of liberal democratic values that you are exploring in the book. I'm not saying every society has to be that way but that's what the question. You're asking a tough question. That's an honest answer. Of course make it even tougher. Recent survey by in the idei showed among cardi deem the which also looks showed that an overwhelming percentage of redeem subscribed to very programmatic viewers regarding non-jewish israel. So something like a think maybe seventy five percent thing. The jewish should have more rights. It's a it's a tracking question we over the years. And it's pretty consistent that those are the responses. This is bothersome because if you look at the growth of the already society and you look new thirty years to future. That's very troubling so again. It's a general question for all countries which have minority cultures hoeing holding liberal views. And there's always a question of okay on the one hundred one to respect this these cultures you realize they have these illiberal specs but you. You believe that you know in the time a long time you can. You can moderate them. You can weaken them. But you're right. If these minority coaches grew then a new support their schools.
The Tel Aviv Review
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"It's realistic and of course truly stick as we say in principle i mean you could imagine in principle that just like in the us. The country was a funding schools funding issue. Vote with stuff. We're still paying the salaries of cod. These of priests it could happen. The choices are not very high. That's true the thing is that i think what comes out from. This discussion from the book is that. It's not very helpful to conceptualize the issues around this question among other things because the the isn't any country in the word with food separation so instead of asking whether we should always we should not separate. We should ask what forms of separation a reasonable you know. What is the exact role of religion in in this state and so on. Okay these are the more interesting questions. Okay so the fact that. I i argued that in principle. It's okay that the state should be motivated. Though some time promote religious issues leaves almost everything open so for instance. We argue as you saw that in israel the sort of intervention in infamously life or family law is is wrong and we should talk about about and other other issues so too much of you know either or either we separate or if we don't separate everything you knows. Okay i am curious about. I mean to me it seems. That argument does emerge from the book. That there is no point in seperation but there are ways to kind of compartmentalize how the state interacts with religion. And say well. In this case in this particular area of policy the state should be more restrained in israel and other cases. Maybe it's okay that the state is more involved. Can you try to break down or math because you have a long list of policy areas. Where are the areas where you think the state should be more restrained in israel an areas where you say well maybe just need a little adjustment. But it's okay so raisins congress to the us. I think it's it's complete the okay. The the the state funds religious schools religious education that it funds religions utions jewish and non-jewish pro. In that i see. I see no problem and this has to do with the point. The dimensions with the you know the the national unreligious aspects come together a scene no problem em in the fuck that this they use on board some religious symbols like the minora and so on. It's okay with me on hannukah. The knesset would have a they'd lights the hanukkah condo together or something like that. That's okay with me. That's it's okay with me twelve rabbis maybe other religiously there's all kinds of a national events is sold. That is okay when it comes to all kinds of restrictions on the liberty of citizens. That's a different story. so again. For instance when you think of margin divorce we think that the Covent arrangement is unreasonable. Is unjust. You mean from a liberal democratic perspective. Roy yeah actually will also think that there's no gains from a religious point of view. Either can you tell us that because one of the interesting points that you make in terms of really weighing the arguments for more state. Intervention religion is the issue. Yahoo liebowitz himself. A religious person also made the argument that it's not necessarily good for religion to have so much state interference if you raise the point already. What is that argument. So no okay. Which kind of a general argument the dame cover lowers religion. The it becomes just another another political actor. Okay so that's no good for religion. We should retain its purity. Should be out of the political game completely okay. Once it's in the political game it started negotiating it's an uncompromising its values and so on so it's no good footage that's general argument again. Go through funding religion education. I think which is wrong. If military did not men that it would be wrong. Even if the state-funded schools. I think he's wrong. Because without this funding you would have much fewer. Your fewer scores reduced schools. But a a mind regarding imagine divorce was that it's clear that the the current legacy foundation is better from a religious point of view festival. A as we all know hearing israel sackler couples. Who don't want to get married to the robin. Just don't the either go to cyprus. To obtain the seven marriage all they just live together in in the legal arrangement of cohabitation. A known as you do embassy bore unveiled. Just don't care about the eight so so the fuck the kind of the law. That doesn't really change anything from if we assume that from a religious point of this kind of a gain benefits. We just don't get it. Maybe it even pushes people away. Maybe even bushy people away. And furthermore this is the point of many. Rabbis have noticed. If a secular couple gets married through the rabbinate. They're really married by halacha. Jewish law this means that if they separate and wearing tel-aviv here so it's conduct fifty percent. You know the divorce rate or something close to that okay. So it's it's it's kind of cool quite serious charges of the the they separate if they separate then. It takes time to actually get divorced. It's a procedure. Could take a year. two years can take time. It's not a wild assumption. The in those two three years both the husband under wife might have either a new boy girlfriends. Now you know from the point of view of this should be something like a adultery. Could you know lead to other things.
The Tel Aviv Review
"democratic" Discussed on The Tel Aviv Review
"Many years. Many believe is jewish christian and muslim didn't dissuade. They thought that those who don't believe in a golden casino weird. How can you think oh. Can you really hold a worldview without without assuming simkin when existence of a dependence on so why should we think that liberal state has it position on this question. We should philosophical question now up till today many philosophies religious philosopher mainly christian but also some jewish thing that they released believe is completely rational. It's not just a matter of belief if you just have patience to read their long very very sophisticated philosophical books you realize that the belief in in god even in the trinity and so on is complete irrational. So if so let's say we have a christian country and we will legislate some law based on what jesus said and you say look. Don't don't understand all this stuff. So the response would be. Okay just you know come over. Take a semi read. Read all these books. You'll appreciate that and this is exactly the kind of answer that the secular legislator would tell you if you don't understand why you need to pay income tax so as say okay. Don't understand that. Go redraws or gory. Some you know socialist thinkers and then you see why it is actually just that you pay this money. But but i think the problem is not really a whether it can be communicated and explained on not but the fact that it's the association between state and religion is not just because it's religion as a general concept or a general belief system but the fact that normally it's a specific religion of one kind and when it is it often comes at the expense because religions tend to be mutually exclusive being the all encompassing worldviews that they often our religion of specific kind comes at the expense of another and therefore it undermines the principle of democracy where people are completely equal before the law before the state the members of minority religions feel. Ken feel discriminated against in such a case or people might be atheist. The people that talked about just now where the atheist of course right the again the analogy would be. Let's say capitalist or socialist in in a country that legislates against view. Okay so within the analogy. So i of a society where atheists were. Maybe still places are a minority. Okay so they don't understand that you know this idea of god. Okay so we say sit down and learn the stuff and even understand okay just like the other way round. Let think of a a believer who just doesn't understand this idea over word without god. He sounds crazy to him or her. So we'd say okay. Sit down take a course on darwin you know learn then you understand so back to the question raised here of course It would be unfair. Unreasonable to impose let's say a christian values rituals on muslims. Of course we in the book. We are quite clear about this that in in in a fairly liberal state we should grant minority religions all the rights of the majority religion actually even a bit more because the very fuck that their minority religions put them in the puts them in a disadvantage. Okay so i mean think of laws regarding marriage. Divorce so of course. We won't enforce upon muslims or christians the jewish way of getting married or divorced on the same consideration that would apply to jews with apply to these minorities as well. Okay so so the the the question would be would it. What did i mean this would be the the public reason kind of interesting question. Would that be okay. For a liberal state to legislate on the basis of considerations which depend in some way on the belief in god or in scripture now these need not be ritual ones. Okay so you can think of a certain over. The the american context think of some some very devoted christian who is a member of congress and trying to put forward to manipulation complete inspired by the gospel. Okay so the question is whether there's anything grown in the in this motivation now from my point of view now not necessarily anything wrong with that if the restrictions themselves are too you know a limiting if the the the the the restraint on liberty is is too severe. That's a problem. But the very fact that legislators or for that matter members of knesset of parliament or presidents the very fact that they are motivated by religious reasons. That doesn't seem to us demotic. can i ask you. is it even realistic. Talk about a full separation. You look at other countries you look around the world. Are there any places that really do have a complete separation of religion state. No tell us a a research. I by name jonathan. Folks he has a. This is a very big day data. He's colle- collect collectible. The entire entire universe were and he argues that the idea of foods abrasion is a myth of there's no world there's no country with food separation. A the are of course differences so so of course france and the us a a policy which is mitchell stronger separation then of course Place like israel. Israel further complicates the issue because as a state and the book and that is a well known truism that judaism is not just a religion so much more than that in israel is jewish state because it is based on the on. The concept of judaism is a 'nationality more than a religion. But going back to what you said in the beginning of this conversation given that there's a some sort of community that is ninety percent religious in israel. It's not something that is that is directed at something that actually exists and the fact that in israel. It's not just a religion. It's not just the nationality but it's also a sector are religious pool with their own institutions with their own community leaders even with their own political representatives and their who have in is a lot of political power and therefore promoted certain religious agenda. I'm talking about the mirror concept of separating religion and state in israel even if it's never complete is that even realistic to even discuss it as a possibility and israel..
The Tel Aviv Review
"democratic" Discussed on The Tel Aviv Review
"By the israel democracy institute an independent center of research and action dedicated to strengthening the foundations of israeli democracy. Our guest today is professor daniels. Stats men the head of the philosophy department at the university of haifa senior fellow at the israel democracy institute where he's also the director of the human rights judaism program in addition he's the co founder of the min opera for josiah arab educators at the shalom hartman institute. His areas of expertise include ethics moral psychology the philosophy of law and jewish philosophy. He's the author and editor of many books and articles and we'll be discussing his recent book entitled state and religion in israel which he co authored with festive gideon sapir and it was published by cambridge university. Press in two thousand nineteen professor daniels. Statman hello and welcome to the show. Hi great to be here. It's often discussed that whether religion and state should or should not be separated. But i'd like to turn the issue on its head as it were and ask the question backwards. Why should religion have any bearing on the political sphere in the first place where i would turn that on its head and ask why not i mean and the that's one of the points of the book coming. Wh why why should religion be kind of singled singled out negatively in. Why should all other views ideologies groups have a bearing on politics and religion should be kind of seen as demotic you know. Viewed with suspicion and so on. Am so i say why not. I mean just assume that. I think over the on the local sphere on the local level. So assuming how a town with let's say ninety percent religious people wouldn't wouldn't it. Sounds kind of odd. The religion wouldn't be a factor in deciding in making decisions in that city regarding the public sphere regarding allocating of budget and so on and so forth hour. Exactly that's the big question of course but it would be sound almost ridiculous to soom you. In this. scenario of ninety percent residents were religion religious muslim or christian or whatever their their their culture their beliefs and so with no bearing on the the local politics but is there any contradiction between that situation that you describe an inherently liberal society in the sense that the very understanding of liberal democracy is that there should be a common basis for decision-making hopefully based on an empirical understanding of society whereas religion draws sources from whole different world of non visible aspects immoral universe. That may really be very different between different citizen. So how do we account for that. And i think that the argument that you have in the book is that there are other areas where the state draws on moral systems. So can you explain how this stands in tension or not with liberal democracy so this question can reflect very very central argument in this area developed by john rose in the doctrine of the public reason so rosa our this idea that a all constraints liberty in should be such that. They're based in some way on public reason. What exactly this means is a big question. So but intuitively. The idea is very close to what you just said so. This is the basic idea. If we are restricting citizens liberty if the state is doing the states would be able to explain to those citizens. Why we're doing and the experience should be such that if the citizens just willing to listen the grasp it i mean some way this see the point of it. So that's that's a general idea in political philosophy. Okay so the is a necessary condition for any restrictions imposed on liberty is the the reasons under underlying this restriction. Should be such that citizens can understand them can appreciate them okay. So that's the first premise. In the argument second premise religion is such that it's reasons cannot be delivered to those who are not already subscribing to them. So it's all right. If if you restrict liberty for the sake of or comes more reasons you can explain those to the citizens okay. But if they're based on scripture then you can't do that and that's kind of that's kind of not fair just proving my point just it's literally these restrictions would be would be perceived as coming out of the blue just out of the blue. The blue sky. God says the scripture says what the rabbi said debris says i the church said and this is perceived as a way of reform disrespect to respect citizens is to be able to communicate with the the reasons why we are limiting liberty. Okay so that's this is the rose idea. We think that in spite of this initial a attraction doesn't really work it doesn't really work it doesn't work because it's very very naive very naive to think that in all the restrictions that we all perceive as okay are such that we can just explain them to those who don't agree okay. So let's say we have this policy of a progressive income tax. Okay that if you if you earn more you pay more hey. This is in fair. I mean it's okay it it is fair so so no. It's not fair. i'm not a worker that instead. This money i make these podcasts work hard i deserve a disused salary get definitely definitely serve. I'm still there's a vote and most people think no we should. You should pay more talks a now. The isn't really a way to say that we have some procedure of showing you that in this case. This is justified okay. While in the case of 'em restrictions based on religion. We've no way to do that. let me put it. In other words. And this argument really assumes that religious beliefs a world views are essentially non-russian erosion right just a matter of belief.
POLITICO's Nerdcast
"democratic" Discussed on POLITICO's Nerdcast
"I think one is that yes needed. Turner raise more money than sean brown but there was a lot of outside money in this race and nina. Turner mentioned it. The democratic majority for israel super pac spent close to a million dollars. Tv ads against nina turner szanto brown's fundraising did pick towards the end in nina. Turner spent a lot of money on tv very early in the race. She went up in late april for in august. Third primary. I think you could make the argument. She was trying to lock her lead. But by the end she was being out pointed out spent on the air By sean. Tell brennan sean. Toll brown ally. So i think this idea that like even you know as a financial resource can't sell these ideas is is a little unfair. I think when you look at the ads that sean brown ran and that these outside groups ran against nina turner. They weren't saying nina. Turner supports medicare for all in the green new deal. Here's why these ideas will hurt your life or hurt the way you live for why they're not good for you. They said nina. Turner is not a good soldier for the democratic party. Nina turner has said mean things about joe biden. Nina turner is not going to you. Know get things done and so like being anti joe biden is not popular but i don't know that this race proved that progressive ideas are popular at the base. Because it's really not what. They attacked her own. Yeah yeah and so. I'm hesitant to draw too big of a takeaway on the policy proposals. Yeah it seems it seems like there's not that wide gap anymore at least in washington with what biden is driving policy-wise between the sanders wing and the biden wing. Right sanders is the guy writing biden. The biden budget in the senate and the white house seems pretty happy with it. And i think progressives are trying to figure out how do we fit into this democratic washington like sean mcelwee st- the liberal pulling data for progress Told me last night. Democratic voters like the democratic party progressives to show that we support the democratic party living up to its true values not trying to tear it down. I think there's a wing of the progressive party that envisions working with the establishment. Working inside at like you mentioned and not blowing it out from the outside which is what. A lot of nina's past rhetoric hinted at alley on the republican side. We had another nice press friendly civil war narrative going on we had a much bigger fielded candidates but one of them was endorsed by donald trump. And he's a wonderful man. I've known her for a long time. Mike.
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"democratic" Discussed on POLITICO's Nerdcast
"The gift things done for you choose endorsed by a lot of pro israel democrats. This district has the largest jewish population in the state so the two competing visions of the party were really do fit into this establishment. I progressive dichotomy. We can take away from the result. Cento brown's victory is that the democratic establishment is popular and in the biden era. It does really seem like progressives have had a harder time. Making a case against joe biden. Right the party establishment got rid of trump. joe biden is the consummate establishment democrat. He's in office. He's fairly popular. He did no better than a lot of democrats in swing districts. And you go back and look at the twenty twenty results and so i think progressives are having a harder time articulating. Why why do you need to throw the bums out now than they did. In the trump era. So i think that's a fair lesson but on the don't take away too much from this. Nina turner is a very unique candidate in that cheap on the trail for bernie sanders for two presidential campaigns. She was a regular presence on cable news in. She's very outspoken. And she says what she thinks and she's not afraid to use colorful language and there's a really long trail of her saying things about the democratic party thinks about president biden things about hillary clinton that the ads in the money that came in against here. They took her own words. She trashed joe. Bud you got to. And i don't think there's going to be a candidate again with so much real anna trove of tape to us to cut ads against her into paint her. As someone who is not welcoming the democratic party is that's part of the democratic party alley. Can you just tell us what it was like on the ground covering this race so much of american politics right now is focused on what's going on in washington. It's not campaign season so the special elections tend to get a huge flood of national attention to the scene. A little bit about what you're reporting trip was like and what how sort of the politics of washington are being refracted in these local races. Right now it's been a while since i've been out on the trail yet end bike a nice window here covet kind of dying down and yeah i mean both events and i was out here on election night and a little bit before. Both both campaigns had such well attended events. People seemed really really engaged. And new turner's events with a she had four different rallies spread out throughout the day. And i went to a few of those and in the first three were close to hundreds and attendants and the hundred channel range and two ton of excitement and it really felt like people made the connection between nina turner and llc and the squad and the squad was doing in washington and at nina turner's watch party. People were talking about the win. That corey bush got on the eviction moratorium. You're pointing to that. As an example of what progressives can do in congress sir really did feel like people leaned into the kind of nationalized nature of this race and chantelle brown had you know the majority of cbc leadership come out for her last weekend. Jim clyburn bennie thompson. Median and i think they both brought the not big national names into the district and shantelle had to chip away at nina's lead and a big part of chipping away. At nina's lead was stoking this democratic civil war argument and getting people interested in supporting her in getting people involved since. It's just the two of us talking. What is your favorite story from. The trip didn't make it into any of your coverage all. I'll leave nameless. But when i was chatting with a brown staffer he had started in june. So kinda well into the race and the first week he started was when the nina term poll came out in this report from Showing her at fifty percent in toll brown at i think fifteen percent and he was like recounting that moment for me where he got on the ground and it was kind of like you know what am i doing. This races is not winnable. And so i think that just showed the trajectory of like how much of a league chantelle brown had to overcome. Because you know by the end. Her pulling had her out. They didn't release this polling like she was up several points by the end i think they knew away was headed. Let's talk a little bit about the congressional black hawk casses involvement in this race. These were two african american candidates obviously but the cbc took sides Tell us about how that played out. Yeah that was an incredibly contentious part of the race because there's been policy that knowing there several black candidates in a race the the sea political arm stays out of it. This is not like a hardline policy but more general trend and some of its members have said that in the past this was an open seat race between two black women and they did just endorse but they very heavily put them on the scale to the extent that they can in the early respected in this district and i do think that made a difference. So the voters in this district. They know what the cbc is. That's not just an inside washington term to a lot of voters so yes and no older voters in the district are really familiar with the cbc. I i would say you know younger voters. It made less of an impact but There are definitely older..
MIP Make It Plain with Mark Thompson
"democratic" Discussed on MIP Make It Plain with Mark Thompson
"Most of most of the beneficiaries it can be poor and working class white people most just numerical terms right and heather mcghee has a great metaphor her book about the drained. Cool that in some of these areas after integration. There were white folks in neighborhoods. Who would rather have their public pool draining so nobody could use it right then to have it be integrated and so they could share it with black and brown folks and that. That's a sickness in the heart that we have to get and i think there's a healing power and kings teaching that that pulls a stores hydrant. That can help to do that. But we also have to speak to the nuts and bolts of is. Wouldn't you rather have a pool period for your kids to swim. It and i think that that message is one that we got to bring the white working class and poor people across the country do so in the context of a fusion movement that invites people into say. We're gonna get to hire ram together. He t- he talked about appalachia to he did for sure absolutely is crew was critical to the poor people's campaign So stephen How do we get this ball rolling. Would you all thinking about in terms of strategy conversation dialogue to bring this multiracial coalition in the name of king ian democratic socialism. I think when we talk about you know infusing democratic socialism or teasing it out of the king yeah like i don't wanna also disconnect king from his strategy of nonviolent resistance of former social change and. I think that's truly what i think has to come out of. This fusion movement is strategically using nonviolent resistance as a form of social change is one of the greatest Resources we have as movement people in an this earth right. Is that the power of collective mass mobilization. And i think we need to see this fusion coalition. Come together in target the filibuster like a vet. The filibuster is single handedly. The most important legislative challenge or tool rule. Change is of our time that literally stands in the gap between literally protect them. The right to vote Reform immigration system of protecting black lives through a criminal. Justice form Dc statehood reparations. Right like hr forty s four are forty will not pass without ending the filibuster. I mean we just. We know that all democratic progressive democratic socialist ideas and policies that we would like to see enacted. We can literally seed happen in our lifetime. Before twenty twenty two. In the the nonviolent resistance copays with the democratic socialist fusion coalition and we emerged together to handedly build a coalition in full of us. So that means You know brothers from the lat next community as well as red from the black lives matter community from the dream act to the justice and policing act coming together to say hey. We're ready to come. To joe mansion in cinemas doors and through novel direct action and engaging resists the streets to really make this a national crowd like i was saying earlier we have to create another selma watershed moment we have created another watershed moment. That will literally suggest that non violent resistance that is disciplined that strategic that is consistent with intend to topple over the challenges of white supremacy that continues to hold over the united states senate as a as a product is jim crow relic the in the filibuster. So whether that looks like all of us converting the dc and recreated the demo democracy spring or whether that means we're going to joe mansions Office and western charleston west virginia. We have to see faith leaders in civil rights leaders and and immigration activist and green new deal activists and gun reform activists literally all putting their body on the line now infamous..
MIP Make It Plain with Mark Thompson
"democratic" Discussed on MIP Make It Plain with Mark Thompson
"And there's a place for righteous anger within that but it enables us always to be pulling people towards higher ground and to be bringing people in and understand that the whoever you are whatever you thought in the past would have you did in the past. There's a place for you. On the side of justice in the freedom struggle to join and movement and i think that sometimes the weight of trauma the weight of pain. The weight of cynicism can close door down in king councils this we have to always keep it open Case aram steven mentioned The multiracial coalition aspect of this And stephen let's face it you know. Multi-racialism is is the goal but when we talk about the african american community they are those who as i said. See dr king in one way especially the faith community which we organize. They don't necessarily Embrace socialism although many do without realizing bright most most all most of our movements and king truly was a socialist whether he used that terminology minute. Let's face it. When he was on the air's socialism with closely aligned with communism and nobody wanted could afford to have that label without being taken out and ultimately he was How how easy would it be stephen. Reverend stephen green to mary The african american liberation struggle rooted in the church to a philosophy that we would call king democrats. Socialism is beyond his bread. I can i can name a few breaches you know by name. We say that they'd be like what work right so. Yeah so so. Tell us. Tell us how we mount that challenge. No you raise a very pivotal question. These buzz words have created a level of resistance in our communities. And i think that you know we have to talk about the issues at ground. This democratic socialism As the issues that connect with grandmothers In in in in our own our own churches right like let's talk about a guaranteed annual income. Looks like right. And then we'll talk about but yet the really you know when you talk about democratic socialism yet to really uncovered the layers of how the homestead act prevented is prevented black folks from being able to literally be able to have access to quality housing in this country and the history of red lining by these all what i recall democratic socialist ideals and principles of guaranteed annual income drops were all housing for all a green new deal right but having to communicate this as as a restructuring of society because as in truly when a democratic socialist vision would call for for america to to have to participate in his truly restructuring society. Utah my childhood education. We have to recognize as dr king says that you know the homes that gave thousands of acres of land. Why folks right and but we call it welfare when we try to do something The government benefits four For african americans in this country entitlements white folks welfare for black votes..
MIP Make It Plain with Mark Thompson
"democratic" Discussed on MIP Make It Plain with Mark Thompson
"Justice racial justice and transformative a political justice. They all intersect together. Kai it is do those in the democratic socialist movement Embrace dr king. Do they see him as a relevant symbol in that movement. Today i think some do. I'm not sure everyone is focused on On on him as as someone who's really kind of setting the standard and creating the legacy that the democratic socialists in general In those on the progressive left one a follow. And that's part of what we wanted to bring. I think with this piece where we're trying to speak to a few different audiences at the same time. One is a general public right. That often has only been taught about one. King which is a limited focus on his concern for racial justice right but they're not getting the full broader social and political critique which was concerned yes with capitalism and also with militarism and empire that the giant triplets available that he talked about in the poor people's campaign so we want to we want to be one of the voices are trying to lift up that fuller vision for the general public but also wanna speak to a some in of in. The world is very focused on king's legacy in particular king in nonviolence. It's a wonderful tradition. Developed by dr bernard. Lafayette one kings lieutenants and david jensen. That both even have trained in but in our view doesn't often bring in his broader political critique of institutions in our society and push people as much to do the particular kind of work that king is most remembered for which if he had just given speeches. I don't think there'd be a monning right. He used the power of nevada direct action to these campaigns that confronted injustice in a powerful way focused the attention of the nation on. It made us so that business as usual can no longer continue. We want local organizer to be doing that kind of and then thirdly to folks who self identify within this resurgent democratic socialists tradition in our country coming out and large part of the bernie sanders campaigns growth of essay. People like a. Oc in folks in the squad right. There's this huge growth and say let's look at king and this incredible and complex fusion that he brought together a tradition that we think can help us to build a multi racial progressive movement from debase up and is broadly inclusive as possible That can help us to win. And i think there's there's a push that king makes on us on the left I think at times which is to really. There's there's a range of in which we try to go through in the piece. But i want is to is to seek constant constantly to be rooting our action in our critique in this ethic of universal unconditional compassionate love which is a hard thing to do..
MIP Make It Plain with Mark Thompson
"democratic" Discussed on MIP Make It Plain with Mark Thompson
"Right she. She's a problem too So we got it figured out. But but in any event the those two characters aside i mean the any movement toward holding the government accountable corporations accountable our own democratic party accountable is is the progressive movement. Correct that's what i see. That's not there's not much of a culture of building movements and organizing movements outside of the progressive left in our country. Although you point out on the on the far right is the case. But that's not that's not gonna get anything done for us so that's not our focus. At the moment you all of stephen rubin stephen post a wrote a piece An waging nonviolence dot. Org folks why king and democratic socialism is the best path forward for the progressive left so This was published on the anniversary of dr king's martyrdom. Just last week was also was was also was easter sunday. So statement some people him quite put daca dhaqane and socialists. So let's let's help folk with that first of all sure. I think when we talk about socialism you know We have allowed this word to be co opted by the you know the as mentality to try to beat the dismantle the movement but black social gospel or socialism is inherently rooted in the black social gospel tradition all the way from brevity caches ransom and other Black social gospel leaders. Who helped you know. Transform Light post Reconstruction right settlement houses in chicago in an institutional church And also in new york city. So you know i think i think we'll we talk about dot kings ties kenya's a part of a long lineage of african american religious leaders who are tied to the social gospel. That infuses their their political ideology. So so dhabi. King is a is a is a democratic socialist who agrees that democracy in an in and of itself is should be socially must contend. It must It contends that it must be engaged in and not just Access devoting voting but also in ensuring that there's a quality of life education So you see this in this. Portrait was campaigned and his. It's about you know not just on the hill on the backs of of of a year that it was actually you know a presidential election. People forget that night six eight they were going to a presidential extra to figure out who was going to come after lbj and king uses civic engagement with with the policy agenda and issue base agenda of economic justice. And i think that will be talking about king we they try to sign dot king in nineteen sixty three hundred sixty four. Without the king's actual fullness of his political ideology emerges out of his his his stance of economic.
MIP Make It Plain with Mark Thompson
"democratic" Discussed on MIP Make It Plain with Mark Thompson
"She read delayed demographics of our own state. I'm not sure. I think she's got this idea about that. She's kind of the sequel to john. Mccain's maverick identification challenging her party. But i think she's miscalculated. Terribly for polling has gone down since she gave the thumbs down on fifteen In such a flamboyant waste and she's been talking publicly about blocking any change on the filibuster she doesn't understand that the voters elected her. Like you say the change. We want results. Now it's much more important to us that we have that that we preserve these traditional senate rules and procedures like the filibuster itself. Jim crow relics. So i'm from west. End the problem with mansion but she is not just him does she know markelle just one. How could she and hit him doing much better in the polls as idea that you have to be you have to try to govern like her in order to win an arizona. He's proven that wrong right now. We're gonna reelect him. He needs to do better things but he voted the right way on fifteen and he signalled openness to reform on the filibuster continues to block progress. So can we. Can we go. Are we gonna draft. Erica to run for senate in arizona while i wish we could. She's not a citizen yet but it takes a couple of years after marriage but it can move faster if we pass the dream act. So we'll see okay. Okay okay okay more. Mvp after this message remmy martin joins with international music star. usher in team up for excellence. The film exploring the history of music culture koniak from blues to hip hop swing. Dancing to break dancing usher and reading. Martin traveled through the decades in france in the us honoring cultural figures both rooted in shared philosophy of aiming for the stars. See the film at team up for excellence. Dot com remmy. Martin koniak forty percent alcohol by volume imported by remy-cointreau usa. New york new york please drink responsibly. The bills caused fans to enter into manic states literally. They took acid by accident and change the course of popular music forever. As a result from amazon music season. Eight of disgrace land is here. So is the conclusion.
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"democratic" Discussed on NPR Politics Podcast
"Is a cool to call yourself. A person of color does not feel right for me. I absolutely want to own my space as a feminist woman of color. Don't missouri's exploring latino identity on. Npr's code switch podcast and we're back and let's talk now about what i know you all have been waiting to discuss. Which is the electoral college. Some might argue that the most democratic way of electing our president would be three popular. Vote simple math. Whoever gets the most votes wins. But that is not actually how the. us alexis presidents. so ron. Why don't we begin by explaining why the us uses the electoral college. This goes back to the convention that put together the constitution back in the seventeen eighty s and their suspicion of a term that some of them actually used the mob. They didn't want a popular movement to carry some person and of course they were imagining only males of carry. Some man on their shoulders into the office They wanted to have a buffer. They wanted to have something in between the vote of the people and the actual choice of the president so they devised and alexander. Hamilton had a hand in this they. They devised a system. That would i elect elect doors and each state would elect people who would then proceed to meet on a designated day and they the electors would then decide who the president should be a based on who the nominees had been so they were imagining something more like that. A bit of an idealization that these electors would be fine. Upstanding citizens of course people have some degree of education and means would actually choose the president and take under advisement. What the popular vote had been in november and over time. The electoral college usually amplified the popular vote. It didn't contradict it but not recently thinking twice in the last two decades right so twice in the last twenty years. Republicans lost the popular vote but their candidate became the president and they've actually republicans have lost the popular vote in seven of the last eight elections. So there are consequences for that and now you have a situation where democrats because of the way the population is sort itself out can win the popular vote by seven eight nine million votes but still lose the presidential election. The presidency is the only office that we elect in this weird state winner. Take all manner and what it means. is that states. That are battlegrounds. That could go either way have outsize clout and this has tremendous implications for the big debate. We're having now about ballot access. Republicans call it ballot integrity because there are those states those key battleground states arizona georgia florida texas are considering laws. That would not only make it harder for some people to vote mostly democratic constituencies but also give more control to partisan republican legislatures over the actual counting of the votes. But if if it wasn't for the electoral college they would not have such outsize cloud. Tomorrow i have heard a lot from progressive democrats specifically after the twenty twenty election. But i would say even predates but going back to two thousand sixteen earlier that that they want the electoral college reformed. They feel like that system in itself is not particularly democratic. And we'll say. I heard a lot in some reporting done over the when i talked to non voters about why they don't vote. It's the sense that my vote doesn't matter i don't live in one of those key battleground states that you mentioned so why bother to vote because you know i don't know i live in indiana. It's a red state. No one's gonna care what. I vote for anyhow. That's a real issue. I mean people who don't think their vote counts because they don't live in a battleground state it shows you. How just a handful of states really control the election of president but there are ideas for reforming the electoral college. To get rid of it completely would take a constitutional amendment and that's not gonna happen but there is something called the national popular vote compact and it's a law that has been passed in fifteen states plus the district of columbia and it's basically says the electors in those states have to cast their votes for the winner of the national popular vote and the idea of people who are promoting. This is if enough states passed it that equal two hundred seventy electoral votes. Which is what you need to win. Then the electoral college would be in effect neutered. It wouldn't be abolished but it would be neutered. Think the chances that they'll ever get to seventy or very slim. There's another idea for states to award their electoral proportionally in other words. Whatever percentage of the popular vote candidate x. gets in that state that's the same percentage of electors they would get states can do whatever they want. There are some practical problems with awarding electorates proportionately because electors are actually individual human beings. And they can't be cut into fractions. Although human beings were cut into fractions in the original constitution. When it came to race we know about the three fifths compromise and to some degree that three fifths compromise did empower the slaveholding states to have more clout in the electoral college because it gave them more seats in the house in addition to their already disproportionate share of the senate so in that sense the electoral college was part of the way the constitution bend over backwards to accommodate slavery. Mar i hear from demographers. This notion that right now. The electoral college favors republicans right but they project out. They'll make these projections on. What the dynamics in the country are going to look like. Say ahead to twenty forty in there's this projection that wants the state of texas flips demographically. They say and becomes more heavily of a minority population of voters. It will likely vote democratic and once that happens they project. It's going to be really hard for republican to win the presidency in the foreseeable future. And i'm curious. Do you feel like right now. These systems do favor. Republicans will the dynamic change if it begins to favor democrats well. There's no doubt that right now. All of the minority -tarian institutions in american life favor republicans because they're the minority party. They represent a minority of the population. But it's very hard to make political predictions especially about the future and a lot of democrats. Were thinking that demography was destiny. Demography would come to their aid and texas would flip soon as soon as the population got younger and browner there and the same thing and other states. Well it's glacial..
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"Hey there it's npr politics podcast. I must mukalla cover the white house. I'm mara liasson national political correspondent. And i'm ron elving editor and correspondent and we are taping. This podcast ahead of the fourth of july when many of our listeners will be celebrating america's birthday and american democracy but just how democratic little is the united states. Mara you have been doing a lot of reporting on whether the country is trending toward a system of minority rule. Which i should say on. Its face just that phrase. Minority rule does not sound particularly democratic. No but our government was built a way that would protect the rights of minority parties. The founders feared tyranny of the majority where a majority of voters or representatives could just overrun the wants and needs of the minority but democracy in america is something that has been constantly renewed and in reformed and there are a lot of people mostly democrats who believe that now that the country has grown to about three hundred million people. There are such big population disparities between states that the two party system has developed a lot of minority -tarian features that the founding fathers didn't foresee so the us is in a situation where a minority of voters and their representatives can pretty much block anything the majority wants. That's right and you know this would be one thing if minority rule popped up occasionally here and there across a sweep of historical time. But what's happening is minority. Rule is solidifying itself because it has the power to do so and as it feels that it is increasingly under threat from population changes up that minority group. And we're talking here about the republican party and its core voters. That group is doing everything that it can. To perpetuate the situation both in terms of the voting in congress and in terms of the courts and certainly in the state legislatures. I mean you mentioned courts congress. Let's say i mean what are some ways specifically that we're seeing this play out. Well there are a lot of minority -tarian institutions first and foremost the senate where every state regardless of population gets two senators which means that small states or thinly populated rural states. Get a lot more clout than the big states. Here's how jesse wegmann. Who's the author of a book. Let the people pick. The president explained it. At the time of the founding. The biggest was thirteen times the size of the smallest state today. The biggest state is seventy times the size of the smallest state. So a few hundred thousand people in wyoming right or or or vermont have as much power as tens of millions of people in california or new york. And i think that violation of politically quality in that violation of majority rule is going to continue to haunt us through the senate and of course. The senate is the foundation of the electoral college where states get electoral votes based on their population but every state gets at least two once again. Smaller states have more cloud it also reverberates through the filibuster. Where a just forty one senators can block any piece of legislation and we now have a situation where the supreme court is a minority institution because a simple majority in the senate since they got rid of the filibuster for supreme court nominees a simple majority in the senate and if it's republicans they represent a minority of the population can put someone on the supreme court for life. Who gets to decide what laws are unconstitutional. So it all of these things kind of reverberate throughout every political system. So so. If i can ask you both cheat to mar androgen you know. I feel like going back. And remembering aspects of us history. The lesson you're always taught is that this was intentional. The slow grinding process was precisely what the founders wanted to ensure that there wouldn't be sort of just like willy nilly political change. All the time happening there was some sense of steadiness and that the slowness was just it was inherently built into the system. They also thought that the system would force. Compromise would force bipartisan compromise. But now we see that. That's not what's happening. It just leads to gridlock. But the other thing is i mean if you play this out the founders as jesse weigman tried to explain could never have imagined how the population sorted itself out over time and also if you take the population trends and just push them out on the graph to twenty forty in twenty forty. We're going to have seventy percent of americans being represented by thirty senators and thirty percent of americans represented by seventy senators and at some that just becomes unsustainable and creates a system that people don't believe is fair and when people lose faith in the system the system falls apart. Yes that does seem to be happening in to some degree. It's already with us because we already have a little over half the national population living in just nine states and therefore being represented by just eighteen senators. That's less than a fifth of the senate for roughly half of the country's population while twenty. Six states have fifty two senators and less than one fifth of the total national population. So that is in a very real sense that absolute essence of minority rule. And unless you're going to have massive population. Redistribution where all sorts of people under the age of forty move off the coast and into purple states. The fact is that the republican party has become the party of real estate. Not population acreage not population. They represent rural thinly populated states. And so you get a system that gets more and more out of whack in the past. This systems has been reformed and adjusted. And we've expanded the franchise you know. There was a time when only white property owners could vote and there are a lot of people mostly democrats who think it's time to make some adjustments to reflect the modern population. All right. well we are going to take a quick break and when we get back. We'll talk about how these dynamics play out. 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