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Episode 161

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Episode 161

"Soared and scale contains adult themes and violence and is not intended for all audiences listener. Discretion is advised. Have BEEN TO. Please let him go through him off somewhere. What our own sculptures Sydney time just struck. Hello and welcome the season. Seven episode one. Sixty one of sword and scale a show that reveals the worst monsters. A real. Some people have everything they could ever want in the world and they're still not satisfied. It boggles the mind to think about it. Especially when so many of us out there struggle every day just to make a couple bucks? I know I did at the earlier part of my life and it was not a lot of fun but thanks to you. That's no longer the case so sit back and listen to this episode which is a fable in modern times. It's also a disgusting display of just. How atrocious we can be as human beings with our never ending lusts for respect or power or whatever the hell enjoy it On the inside of an incinerator temperatures need to reach between sixteen hundred and eighteen hundred degrees Fahrenheit or your skin to literally burn away. As your hair's disintegrate the muscles in your body will contract and shrivel like a piece of Bacon left on the stove two long chunks fat sizzle and pop and soon your organs will melt. Converting into carbon dioxide. Only pieces of your bones will remain. And if this were a proper cremation. Those two would be specifically processed into ash before placing an urn and given to loved ones for remembrance. But this is not a proper cremation today. The incinerated bodies in question will never be recovered and loved ones. We'll have nothing to remember but pain and confusion for many years to come. You understand your right to choose whether or not to make a statement. Yes I understand that you understand the consequences of making a false statement. Do you understand the fact that this thing won't be videotaped and do choose to give a statement shirt Delon Millar was born into a life of comfort and luxury the third generation of aviation family. That began with Dylan's grandfather. A man who started his own charter airline in the Mid Nineteen fifties that eventually grew into an impressive fleet with twenty one planes. Delon's father had also succeeded in continuing the Delon air legacy giving his son delen anything entrepreneurial. Young man could ask for from a fancy private education to a bottomless piggy-bank for residential properties automobiles and exotic vacations. This was the definition of a trust fund. Baby the future couldn't be brighter but tonight tragedy has struck the prestigious Malarde family and says Thursday sometime between six and six thirty back to the house had been working at our family. Business came into the side door. The door post. Everybody uses the house. I walked to my room and sweater the closet cold day and then I was on my way back to the kitchen to make a snack. I noticed my father's things to be asleep in bed which was odd because it was and so I ended. Something didn't really seem right very still and some blood on the pillow and moment I had to leave his room actually back to my room and my phone and I walked back into my dad's I called my mother and I told her what I was seeing literally said I'm standing in my dad's and this blood overs. Hello stead screaming. Delon is twenty seven years old when he discovers his father with a single gunshot wound through the eye when police arrive Wayne. Millard is photographed on his side in a position that could easily be mistaken for sleeping. Were it not for the stream of blood dripping down the mattress of course? Oh and the revolver lying next to him hours later. Del appears calm and collected relaying the sequence of events to the officer seated across from him as detectives attempt to piece together. What led up to Wayne? Milan's death they get a sense of the most recent Millar family. History were Kurd feminist. Yes they do. Business News Malardier Inc. It's right now being tried trying to be reimagined into an MRI which is a maintenance and repair organization. Essentially a garage to bring air place get faced. How long is this business up and running like well? It's viable to start doing maintenance repair or license about three weeks ago. And it's been over a year preparation to get to that points. When Dylan's father Wayne inherited the family business malarde air had already stopped. Flying planes for over a decade. Most of the money was coming from leasing. Valuable Hangar at Canada's Pearson airport and so- Wayne began investing millions of dollars into a second hangar in Waterloo a city experiencing technological and economic boom. The intent was to leave a legacy for Delon but the family business was never of much interest to him. Delon was after all a rebel. An ADRENALIN junky. Cnn photographs sporting a Red Mohawk Delon in. This friends recently competed in an expensive off. Road racing event in Mexico called the Baja five hundred afterward getting matching tattoos to commemorate the occasion. He was a kid that was shunned and pooh-poohed over at the country club at a lot of people in that world new Delon as the rich kid who throws parties for burn outs and high schoolers. Rumor has it that Delon takes things to another level when he brings out a black and yellow toolbox filled with party drugs whole basement set up for youngsters for parties. Tried to make it look club in what takes place. They solders xbox Diet. Tv's and stuff like that so joan. There ain't drugs or some folks down there to grow it from. The police ever attended there for these couple years. We had one get out of control. We had to call the police to GET PEOPLE. People usually usually. It's twenty anyways that night. It was more or something was something posted on. Facebook just one. That's the new airplane hangar in Waterloo. Well sometimes a source of tension between father and son slash president and vice president of Malardier was generally a pretty sweet deal for Delon until any contracts were finalized. It was essentially a place for Dell in the store. His hot rods jeeps and jet skis. It also gave access to mechanics and engineers who would gladly tinker away at whatever projects Dylan through their way. All you had to do was keep the place clean and organized. But he couldn't care less about that. More toys were stored at the sprawling. Millar to state. Police I arrived the night of Wayne. Millar it's death. They noticed none of the fifteen vehicles parked on the property were missing. Most of the mansion gave the impression of a messy. Frat House adorned with airplane memorabilia. Save for Wayne's master bedroom sadly smelling of multiple cats and unchanged litter boxes but in the interrogation room when the conversation turns toward Wayne's physical and mental well-being being in the months leading up to his death delon casually hints at what life had been like since he moved back in with his father over a year ago. Yet depression him. He carried some pretty sadness within throughout life. I never really never really wanted to share it with me. The death of Wayne Millar is eventually ruled a suicide albeit a strange one as the coroner suggests he's never seen someone kill themselves with a shot through the eye as the interview with Dell includes. It's clear they've taken. Everything is told them as absolute truth but for grieving son gives the impression of a tired traveller being mildly inconvenienced by the TSA. Of course looking back on it now knowing the full story at all makes sense because Dell and Millar is a master manipulator the new CEO of Millar who will quickly closed the book on his family's legacy and throw it into the fireplace one year later it's February twenty eleven and twenty six year. Old Sean Learner is throwing a surprise party for his then girlfriend. Laura Babcock also in attendance Dylan Millard. An ex boyfriend of Laura's that Sean does not personally know as the party ends several people including Sean and his girlfriend. Laura go back to Delon's apartment. After limited conversation. Sean describes his impression of Delon as sketchy at a certain point. Sean Witnesses Delon giving Laura a pill unprovoked as a birthday present ecstasy he assumes which makes him a bit uncomfortable. Laura Babcock who has felt lost in life since graduating with degrees in English and drama at the University of Toronto has begun seeking treatment for mental health issues that have taken over her life undiagnosed and with increasingly more erotic behavior. Laura is asked to leave her family home after an incident where she threatens her mother with the wooden spoon sometime during the next year. Sean and Laura break up although Sean still loves and cares for he watches from the sidelines as Laura moves in with a new boyfriend eventually ending that relationship and having him arrested for assault as well as the sexual assault of a friend still concerned for his ex-girlfriend's wellbeing and realizing that she's headed towards a downward spiral. John makes arrangements for Lara to stay at a local days. Inn Motel they convene at a nearby food court. Where Sean Learns? She's recently began working at an escort. Service he loans her an Ipad to help her find a safer more permanent living situation. It is the last time they will ever meet in this same period of spring. Twenty Twelve Dylan Mallard is secretly juggling relationships with at least three women including his ex fiancee and the eighteen year old. He was cheating on her with Christina. New Christina Nude Ga is friends with Laura Babcock. Well I guess the more accurate term is frenemies as much as it pains me to use that word. Both of them have slept with Dylan at one time or another and Lars Birthday Christina decides to text her something along the lines of happy birthday. It was a year ago that I I slept with Delon to which Laura replies. That's fine I slept with him a couple of weeks ago to which an upset Cristina remind. You is the one who started. This mean girls exchange in the first place texts back. Did you miss your medication? Today you're a crazy psycho bitch trying to get my boyfriend. You had him and he lost him give it up Christina. New is a delight a role in all this is far from over but it begins in April of twenty twelve following the birthday text. Meltdown now. A flustered Christina texts her permit skuas Boyfriend Delon whose bruised ego once again for every turn of kindness you showed her. She took it and threw it in my face making me discouraged. Fuck she's like a virus like herpes always there but only shows up once in a while with a whole lot of annoying lesions. There's a difference herpes. You can't really get rid of. It just feeds off you until you die. I. I'm going to hurt her then I'll make her leave fancy myself something of an undercover doctor. I think with the right treatment. These herpes can be gotten rid of well. Dr Millard. How do you propose to remove the infectious disease? I think we're being harmed in irritated by toxins released by a parasite removal of the parasite should alleviate the irritation. I will remove her from our lives. Delon reaches out to a friend of a friend and purchase a wooden handled Smith and Wesson Handgun and on July third twenty thirteen. The day of removal has arrived. Want to just do. This is the last footage of Laura Babcock taken by a friend. Who Finds Laura's private joke of meowing and public amusing and wants her to see? Just how silly she looks. She's been telling him about an upcoming trip to Las Vegas. And when he drops her off at a bus station. July second he feels like she is excited for life while. Nobody's there to see it. The signal that Laura Cell Phone Sends Ping's off nearby towers explains what happens next the following evening July third. The map suggests that Laura is very. Near to Dylan's location. The information won't be revealed for many years data records then trace Laura and Delon's phones as they travel to Delon's home. The two phones move together the next day as well until suddenly LAURA'S PHONE STOPS RECEIVING MESSAGES. Delon's phone continues moving until he reaches another one of his properties a one hundred Acre farm that he purchased the previous here for nearly eight hundred fifty thousand dollars in cash. It's here just outside the only standing structure on the entire property that Delon uses his cell phone to take a disturbing picture. The image is of a dusty rolled up blue tarp concealing the thin frame of what could very easily be a body. Delon's dog stands off to the side sheepishly looking back up at the camera. The photo is timestamped two forty pm on July fourth and Delon then sets a cell phone reminder for three days later that reads barn. Smell check after all you got to keep things clean Shawn Lerner. The carrying ex boyfriend who laura an IPAD during their final exchange is the first person to report. Laura Babcock missing as her. Normally active. Social Media. Accounts have gone silent. But because he isn't a family member. Police initially. Brush him off in the meantime. Laura's father Clayton Babcock had last heard from his daughter in the cell phone call days before her disappearance. She said she was dropping off her. White Multi S- dog in a shoebox full of cash. When he returned home his daughter was already gone on. What he assumed was an extended vacation. Laura's parents who meanwhile have been hoping and praying that their daughter is just on some kind of an adventure and will soon return home. Notify the police a few days later but the days continue to pass. And when Laura's parents receive Laura's cell phone bill they share the information with both police and Sean Learner. Curiously the last eight phone calls were made to a person they know. Delon malarde again. Sean reaches out to police this time urging them to contact Delon but no further action is taken in fact the more Sean tells them about Laura's declining mental health and erotic behavior the more convinced police are that she's just another runaway and she's probably out there somewhere just fine nothing to worry about nothing to do here. Go eat another doughnut. Frustrated by the lack of Action Sean then takes matters into his own hands and reaches out to Delon himself. Hi Don. This is Laura's French Sean. I'm not sure if you've heard but Lara has been missing for the past three weeks as wondering if you've been in touch with her at all heard about that don't know where she is thanks. I'm looking at her phone bill. I see she spoke to you a lot around the end of June. The last day coffee made before disappearing all to you. Did she mention anything about where she might be going? Or with. Whom for what it's worth? I'm not looking to get anyone in trouble. Just really concerned for her safety. Several minutes pass with no response not trying to point a finger just wondering if she might have mentioned something in passing. That could help us find her. More time passes still no response if you don't own anything that's fine but kindly reply to confirm receipt nearly twenty four hours later. Delon finally text message received Sean Presses Dylan further eventually getting him to agree to meet at a nearby starbucks during this conversation Dell and suggests he hasn't spoken to Laura. Until Sean finally shows him. Laura's phone Bill Delon then changes his story saying that Laura has been looking for drugs implying sheet devel- to cocaine addiction and had gotten mixed up with the wrong people before leaving. He tells Sean that he should have no reasonable expectation of ever seeing her again. Despite all of Shawn's efforts to keep police motivated eventually the Laura Babcock case goes cold. His last request to the officer in charge is to trace the IPAD. He had loaned to Laura before her disappearance. Sadly this action is never taken a critical mistake. One that undoubtedly would have stopped all further tragedy and tracking the IPAD authorities would have discovered that on July fifth just two days after her murder. Laura's IPAD was sinked with a computer at one of Delon Millar Properties had police followed this trail. Which again they did not do. They would have also discovered a very curious changed. The status of Laura's device starting July Fifth. It had been renamed to mark's ipad. But who the hell is mark? I know we've thrown a lot of names that you already but you're GonNa WanNa pay close attention here. Meet Mark Smith which Dylan's former drug dealer turned best buddy even though their backgrounds couldn't be more different. They share a joint together one night in the early two thousands and bond like brothers by twenty eleven to our regularly rounding up a small crew of friends for late night missions as they call them in the beginning. Their heists are small-scale. Like stealing plants from a nursery. But over time the loot becomes larger the stakes higher and the take itself harder to get away with a concrete floor polisher. A Wood chipper a trailer filled with core veterans and more recently a film producers Harley Davidson motorcycle the relationship between Dell and the Lord and Marks Mitch becomes what some may call symbiotic mutually benefiting to them both when Dell and expresses interest in purchasing a gun for example mark as the count. A guy who's got a hook up and when mark wants to pursue a career as an up and coming hip hop artist. Doan has all the means to build them a recording studio. Yes it's like a free south session with no lesson question. Killing you went possessions is Martin. I'M GONNA kill checkmark bizarre mountains climate though you opt to dangle you from the roof true mother fuckers know what? We've you blacked up and Blue Bruce who blues close tell the cops anything you die on the nose and peace bitch. Good deceased kit for me. Say ten the genius. That's say ten like S. A. Y. And then the number ten mark has a catchy nickname for his rich. Buddy Delon as well delon the felon on the night of July Third Twenty twelve Laura Babcock's final outgoing call is to check her voicemail at seven to three pm and even though her phone would go on to log hundreds of text and phone messages from worried friends and family members. Delon Millar who received the last eight calls prior to disappearance never reached out once. Marks Mitch doesn't really know Laura but it's not hard to place him hanging out with Dylan pinpointing the exact manner in which Laura's isolation and execution occurred will likely never be known but there are a couple of notable details that point to foul play First Delon and mark are constantly in touch with one another though curiously on the night of July third neither delon nor mark use their phones to contact anyone from seven thirty pm until almost one. Am The following morning. Something has been keeping them occupied all night and second later that day. July fourth now Dell drives to a local store called sleep county the largest mattress retailer in Canada and purchases a King sized mattress for twenty five hundred dollars rush delivery the theory being that something must have destroyed the original mattress the night before. It's a small price to pay to cover up a murder but delon's funds are limitless and his plans are far from over in fact for the last two months Dell and has been investing his money and energy towards obtaining an incinerator. No I'm not shitting. You initially Dow in taxes favorite mechanic to build one from scratch presumably preposterously so delon can burn his household waste but after several near disasters and failed test runs Dell and ends up dropping over fifteen thousand dollars on a professionally manufactured. Five hundred pound propane behemoth. It arrives July fifth standing it over ten feet tall painted black and branded with red stenciled letters that read the eliminator when asked why he wants to purchase a livestock incinerator after all there are no animals on the Millar Farm Dell and tells his friends and family that he wants to get into the animal cremation business with his veterinarian. Uncle in the meantime demonstrates his mechanic to make the recently purchased unit mobile so it can be towed wherever Dylan Watson think about it. A mobile body disposal unit ready to go on tour cross country after nearly a month of back and forth with the manufacturer and an additional eight thousand dollars in custom modifications. A six hour test burn is long last successfully completed on July twenty third delon texts mark barbecues run. It's warm up. It's ready for meet later. That night Delon uses phone to search what temperature is cremation done at then takes a series of photos. Most notably one of Mark's Mitch proudly standing in front of the eliminator holding a Rod. Iron Ashraf like a pitchfork in grinning like a morbid undertaker. There's another photo closer to the incineration chamber something out of Focus and burning that looks unmistakably like the bones of a human arm. This brief and eerie video is also taken of tiny orange numbers floating into the night sky while the incinerator hums in the background and then a new document is created. On Laura's ipad that is now marks ipad their rap lyrics. Of course here. He is say ten himself performing the track in house reading the lyrics on his newly acquired ipad bone out of its ashes stone. Last time I saw outside the home. And then you a bone by bone was if you go swimming. Find a poem fun. Phone can if you go swimming to find a fiscally. If it's not clear from the audio he's delighted with themselves mock swimming and resting his head on his press together hands like he's peacefully sleeping. Mark will be so impressed with his own lyrical wit from that night that he performs the track for friends at a party months later he pulls a couple of them aside and brags to them and it's more than just a song. It's a true story. The friends who hear it think it's a joke and chalk it up to mark trying to act cooler and tougher than he actually was over time. It seems that Laura Babcock's parents are simply too grief stricken to push the matter with police further the little white dog she left behind it constant reminder of what they lost and also somehow it comfort life will go on. And so it seems Dylan Malaria and marks Mitch of Gotten Away with murder. A we were living in the future. People technologies improved in just about everything phones cars shopping yet. Mattresses have more or less been the same. Since the invention of sleep we deserve better and finally the mattress has evolved thanks to purple. The secret to purple is the Purple Grid. It's a patent comfort technology that instantly adapts to your body's natural shape and sleep style. Purple is designed with over twenty eight hundred open air channels and naturally temperature neutral. Gel. You'll never sleep too hot or too cold. 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Sometimes expenses have to cut in the case of Tom Bosma and his wife Charlene. It was their two thousand seven. Dodge Power Ram thirty five hundred. That had recently been the source of a major financial headache after replacing the transmission brakes and several other internal parts. It was time to let the diesel four by four pickup truck. Go and try to recoup some of the losses in the spring of twenty thirteen. The Bosna's place their sale by owner add on Canada's popular classified website could G G DOT CA. The truck has been online for weeks with no serious interest from anyone but after they update the advertisement in early. May Tim at long. Last has a buyer willing to drive all the way out from Toronto to take the vehicle for a test drive on the morning of the appointment. Tim Reaches Out via text to see if the buyer wants to meet them half way but the message goes unanswered by seven PM that evening. The original scheduled appointment time. Tim has grown frustrated by the lack of response. Assuming he's dealing with yet another tease of an offer but at seven twenty two PM. Tim's phone rings and the man on the other side of the line says he's on the way and will be there within an hour as tim and Charlene tuck their two year old into bed. Tim Wonders out loud. Who comes this late to see a truck just after nine? Pm CHARLEENA's outside smoking a cigarette with a downstairs tenant when she sees two men approaching their property on foot they haven't come in a vehicle which seems odd but the taller of the two men explains that a friend has destruct them off and was grabbing a bite to eat. The shorter of the two men says nothing at all. He hangs back hands. Never leaving the pockets of his red hooded sweatshirt barely glancing at the Dodge truck. They driven all this way to see. Charlene watches as her husband and the two men get into the truck. Tim Sitting Shotgun the taller of the two men in the driver's seat and his antisocial friend in the Red Hoodie sliding into the back as they drive off for their test drive. Charleen can't help but speaker thoughts out loud. That was weird. She says to the French. She's been smoking with to ease the tension. The friend makes an off color joke saying that might be the last time we ever see him. Girding Missing Person Timothy Bosma on April twenty. Eight th two thousand Thirteen Timothy Bosma. Posted two thousand and seven dodge. Ram pickup truck for sale on two different websites on Monday. May Six a male party arranged by telephone to view the truck Mr Bosmo residents in an Caster at approximately nine twenty pm. Mr Bosma went for a test drive with two young males in this pickup truck. Mr Bosma had told his spouse that the males stated that they were from Toronto. Mr Bosma has not been seen from or heard from since this time. Police were notified a Mr Bosma disappearance immediately by his spouse in the mountain criminal investigation. Division Begin Investigation late on May sixth due to the unusual nature of this disappearance the homicide unit will now take the lead in the investigation as per our policy from Hamilton. Police Service. On the day that follows this press conference by Hamilton Police. An Emotional Charlene Bosma asks for anyone knowing anything about her husband's disappearance to please come forward. This is not your way through this on. Tv movies happen. Washed my husband right away just after nine o'clock on Monday night. He's my teasing he'd be wrecked. My husband Tim is looking father for years year. Old Girl dancing sisters brother. We look forward to being able to put the Arms Reynolds Avenue. We open today in the last few snag there when kids the other day city has been stolen from world revolves around number one right now. I hate to please let him go. We drop them off somewhere. Please alert talk three nights earlier. May Sixth again just hours. After Tim Bosma is murder. Tim's thirty five hundred Dodge Ram. Now Delon's thirty five hundred dodge. Ram Is being stripped of its blood-soaked interior in the center of the Millar Airplane Hangar Marks Mitch. Works with a box cutter blade to remove the seat belts and carpets afterward power-washing the fragments of glass. That have fallen from the shattered front passenger window. The eliminator is turned on and Delon and mark. Lift the one hundred and seventy pound corpse of Tim. Bosma guiding his body through the eighteen by twenty four inch opening of the Incinerator Especially Difficult Chore For Mark. Who's recently somehow dislocated his shoulder in these early morning. Hours of May seventh as Tim's body is slowly being burned delon texts casually with one of his multiple girlfriends about pets. In the meantime mark gathers everything taken from the dodge thirty five hundred into garbage bags and throws them onto the bed of Delon's other truck to be disposed of later when the eliminator cools down and his moved back to Dulles farm and at five fifty five. Am Delon Sends One more text? Only this one goes out to all the employees at Milad Air. It reads quote airport politics. No one goes to the hangar today. Not even just to grab something. Why is it all these rich white kids wannabe gangsters? I don't get it another press conference four days. After Tim Bosma goes missing. There has been a break in the case. Not only has tim. Bosma phone been found but the phone delon used to contact him. A BURNER. Phone registered under a fake name has also been traced yesterday. Investigators working on this case received the results of a production order for the cellular telephone of the man. That contacted Mr Bosma from the cellular records in interviews. Police have found that these same individuals that attended Mr Bosma test of similar type of vehicle in the city of Toronto on May fifth in the middle of the day. The owner of this vehicle was not harmed. The owner was able to provide a description of the two males. This description of the two males matched the description provided by Mrs Bosma. The gentleman from trial described and added to this description on one of his wrists. He wasn't sure if it was a left to right where a person wears a watch was the word ambition there was a box tattooed framing the outside of the word ambition and it would have been the same direction as one whereas a watch. Police have researched this tattoo. This tattoo itself. It's not uncommon. Many people have the word ambition tattooed on their body however the location and the around it is unique. The gentleman is from Toronto. The one who identified Dylan's ambition. Tattoo was not supposed to live to tell the Tale Dylan had contacted him to arrange a test drive of his diesel truck in the same manner as Tim Bosma but when del Mark arrived they realized the man selling this particular truck was in fact a six foot four former Israeli army officer by the name of eager to Monenco on their test drive together. Mark meekly asked from the backseat. What ebor had done in the army ebor looked at him and said quote? You don't want to know what I did there. It got real quiet in the truck after that it seemed eager may have been too difficult. A victim to overpower which is why regular Guy Tim. Bosma had been such an appealing target the following day and indeed Delon and marks. The latest mission had been a success. Mark's girlfriend would later recall watching Dylan and mark happily celebrating the morning. After Tim's murder and incineration Delon now has the diesel truck he feels can go the distance and save on fuel costs as well. I mean that's really important. When you're killing people the next steps will simply be swapping the license plates replacing the windshield but dusting the Vin number and giving the black truck a red paint shop to match Delon's decidedly insufficient tow truck furthermore Delon and mark have once again seemingly perfected the art of destruction and deception. Mark must be swelling with pride for all of the admiration. He has for his criminal mastermind. Blood brother when delon sets his mind on something. It's like the laws somehow. Don't apply to him but now a police investigation is in full. Swing an everywhere you look. There's nonstop media coverage Delon's inferno may have scorched the earth but with it a charge stench has wafted into the winds. Every fire is eventually extinguished an every structure touched by its blaze is eventually reduced to ash. If our cat Piquiachu could talk he would say Pep Me there. He Pat me now. Pammy they're not gonNA BITE YOU. That's what they do. 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Thirty five hundred as the one he'd been seeing on TV. Not only that the mechanics father in law had taken pictures of the truck including the Vin number and reported the information to crime. Stoppers Della knows that he has to move Tim. Bosma truck but emboldened as ever. It's just another obstacle to overcome and so for his next mission. Delon enlists the help of his girlfriend Cristina NECA. You may recall her as the former Frienemie to the late Laura Babcock but she's about to prove herself as Delon's number one girl once and for all Delon picks up Christina at her house in his red dodge towing a large trailer behind it. That in reality is carrying tim. Bosma truck the to drop off the trailer at Dylan's Mother's house. Ignoring at avoiding her questions about the impromptu visit next stop delon's farm. According to Christina the drive there is what she calls a quote sexual expedition with Dell and driving while Christina performs Felicia when they arrive at the farm the pair put on gloves and move the eliminator once again this time into hiding on a secluded path away from the barn later. Pristina plays coy about her involvement. In that day's events saying for example she thought the trailer contained a tesla that Dylan was going to surprise his mother with and that they moved the incinerator because Delon said the barn floorboards had been creaking on the drive. Home they make one last stop. Dulles reached out to another one of his mission buddies. Be Says he's been quote feeling some heat and wonders if his friend can hang onto something forum. The French texts back. You tell me what these toys R. I can prepare myself. A toolbox bullet guns delon texts back three dots arriving later and exchanging laughs as he hands over a padlocked black and yellow Stanley toolbox. One that's familiar to his friends as being filled with party drugs before parting ways. Delon gives Christina a dvr of incriminating security footage from the airplane hangar. From the night of Tim. Bosma 's murder which Christina tucks away in her closet with all loose ends apparently tied up Dennis prepared when police arrive at the Waterloo. Malarde air hanger. They ask if they can look around to. Which del and smugly response thought. You're going to say that they find nothing out of the ordinary but the fact they connected. Delon with any of this at all meant the game was already over. Even though police didn't know at that moment that they were standing feet away from where Tim. Bosma 's body had been incinerated they did have their man with the ambition Tattoo. Police leave the Millar Air Hanger without making any arrests but they keep is on Delon but the remainder of the afternoon. While waiting for the official go-ahead a surveillance team trails him to a nearby bank and then to an apartment complex. That's later revealed to be where marks Mitch has been laying. Low Delon is out of police site for roughly an hour. No doubt helping mark get his story straight and figuring out the next steps for a mission spinning out of control by the time. He's back in his truck and driving home. The officers have their orders to make an arrest surrounded with guns. Delon steps out of the truck and is placed under arrest when he's handcuffed and searched. Police find three nitro black gloves in his pocket when tested later the gloves reveal DNA? From Delon. Dillon's girlfriend Cristina Nude Guy and Tim Bosma and although it won't be connected until later it's discovered that the key ring left Jingling and Delon's ignition also carries the keys to Tim. Bosma Truck Delon Malarde twenty seven years old from Toronto has been charged with forcible confinement and theft over five thousand dollars. It is believed that Delon. Malarde is also the driver in the truck incident that took place in Toronto previously. Millard is the suspect with the ambition. Tattoo. Malarde was arrested without incident while driving on Contra road in Mississauga Tim. Bosma has not been located. Our greatest priority is the welfare and locating of Tim. Bosma anyone who knows where tim is. Please help return Tim to us for those responsible. Turn yourself in Del. Malarde is a narcissist and he has quite an imagination. This is an Brocklehurst author of dark ambition. That twisted packed of Serial Killers Dylan Malarde and marks Mitch. Dallas Willard was the first one arrested and part of the reason. His arrest was so shocking was because it turned out he was an air to an aviation company. As a fourteen year old. He broken flying records flying a regular plane and a helicopter on the same day and becoming the youngest person to do that so he had the sort of rich Guy Story and made. You wonder why you do this. And there was just more to dig into. As more information about Dylan comes to light dillon's girlfriend Cristina now. Staying with Dylan's. Mother thinks back on her afternoon. Sexual expedition with Delon and the trailer dropped off still sitting in his mother's driveway fearing now that she may be linked to Dylan's crimes Christina gets to work cleaning her fingerprints off the trailer using wipes and dishwashing gloves. Provided by Dylan's mother and this last minute tampering of evidence happens without a moment to spare things are moving quickly now and there's been another break in the case. It has been exactly one week since Tim. Bosma disappeared while taking two strangers on a test drive of his truck in Ontario. Investigators think they may now have found the truck. But there's no sign of the missing man. Christina Stevens has the latest on the Investigation Christina Donna Hamilton. Police say at this point. They're concentrating their search for thirty zero. Tim Bosma in the Kitchener Waterloo region. Yesterday however police were at this Kleinberg house seizing trailer containing a black pickup truck but say further investigation is required before they can confirm its Bosmo struck. The house belongs to the suspect's mother a neighbor cold police after realizing the connection and says the trailer had been there since Thursday. It's actually very disturbing I really hope and pray that they find You know alive I. I really hope it works out. Positively but the awful truth will soon be known the eliminator which Delon and Christina moved into the woods surrounding Delon's farm has recently been discovered by a dirt biking neighbor police are unsure of what they're looking at when they first approached the iron monstrosity parked on the overgrown path a rednecks smoker attached to a hundred pound propane tank. It's large enough to crawl into and once inside the modified incinerator. Detectives discover too large pieces of bone within the main chamber. Both of them are curved. As a result of damage from the fire a forensic anthropologist is then brought to the scene for further analysis and over the course of the next several hours the specialist painstakingly examines the seven concrete tubes contained within the incinerator as she carefully removes one bone fragment after another sergeant from the Hamilton Police. Forensics Branch takes exhibit photos and delicately stores them in the end. The specialist is able to identify pieces from fifty eight of the more two hundred bones that make up the human body. She concludes from this that at some point the insides of the eliminator had been cleaned out. Adding bone does not disappear a day after authorities officially announced they're convinced the remains bound. Are that of Tim Bosma. His widow Charlene Bosma Knicks. Another public appearance yesterday. Reminding me knows your own your own home. Who Now he turned on me more than ever to hold it broken. It's Sunday may nineteenth less than two weeks since Tim. Bas murder and four days. After Charlene's heartbreaking press conference marks Mitch can be seen living it up partying at a sister's wedding and a series of pictures that let's face. It probably didn't make the photo album. Marcus scenes squeezing his girlfriend tight and smoking a cigar and cheering on the groom. Who's in the back stroke of a staged golf swing and all of them? The goofy self satisfied grin behind the scenes. Mark has taken possession of Delon's black and yellow toolbox and breaks the padlocked to reveal. The murder weapon stored inside a Walter P K the handgun made famous by James Bond. Unable to sell it mark briefly hides it in the washing machine of his mother's house ultimately deciding to bury it in the nearby woods. He's deleted his facebook page. He's been using his girlfriend's phone to make paranoid calls out on the balcony and he snaps at a friend who asks if he's involved with the Bosma case everyone's been talking about mark soon goes into hiding and his girlfriend's sister's apartment bringing exactly what you think a sketchy drug-dealing murderer would have on them for cellphones. Police observe him for a week eventually arresting him on his. Bmx bike for first degree murder as he's put into handcuffs he shouts out to his girlfriend quote. Don't tell them anything babe. Don't tell them anything. The four cellphones upon closer examination are all missing. Their SIM cards. Mark suggests there probably inside of another phone somewhere. In fact many of Mark's digital fingerprints during the early spring of two thousand thirteen have been wiped clean but say ten himself has now been put behind bars along with his preppy Buddy Delon Ba- felon just to tattered up white boys from Canada about to go to trial for three different murders. That's right three murder trials. I hope you haven't forgotten about Dylan's father Wayne Millard. We opened the show with his unusual. Death shot through the eye in his suburban mansion in ruled a suicide. Well we'll talk about that and a whole lot more regarding this case on next plus episode but for now a network of willing participants wannabe gangsters and lovers alike will quickly retreat and duck for cover soon. The public will learn disturbingly. 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SERIAL KILLER: Dellen Millard

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SERIAL KILLER: Dellen Millard

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Get yourself a state farm agent who gets you and knows your specific needs. There's one right in your own neighborhood. Talk to an agent at eight hundred state farm or go to State Farm Dot com today high crime junkies. I'm your host Ashley Flowers. I'm Brett and this week story is about a murder spree that happened in plain sight and went undetected for almost a year. And it's it's also a cautionary tale for the digital age and for anyone who's ever sold something to a stranger on the Internet. This is the story of Dallin Millard On the evening of May six two thousand thirteen Tim. Bozeman put his two year old daughter to bed and began into pace. He's waiting for this guy who's supposed to come by to test drive his truck they plan to meet at seven but by now it was nine o'clock doc. Now he knew they were coming. They called around like seven thirty to say they're on their way from Toronto. But now it's almost dark and like he's like let's just get the show on the road already so while he's waiting for them he's kind of talking to his wife bought the people coming over and he's asking like do you think I should like go with them for the test drive or just like give them the keys. He's let them do it and she's like yeah. Of course you go with them like we want our truck to come back. Don't you don't give a stranger so finally well. After nine o'clock to men arrived for the test drive and it's no wonder they were late because they show up on foot and this is a little unusual usual in general. But you know like they're there to buy a car maybe they didn't have one of their own fine. But what makes this feel. Extra strange was was that Tim and his wife Charlene lived in this. Like Very semi-rural area. That's an hour outside of Toronto. So this isn't a place that you typically like get to on foot but whatever like any kind of worries or just brush off their finally here and the bones were hopeful that their truck was finally going to sell it was costing more than they're willing to pay repairs and upkeep and they really needed the cash so Tim Bozeman smiles at his wife and says he's going to be right back he gets into the truck drives away and the time starts to pass a little more slowly and when an Our passes and Tim still hasn't returned. Charlene begins to really worry like this was just a test drive even if they wanted to take the truck on the highway. It wouldn't take this long. Something isn't right and she knew that he charged his phone that evening when he got home from work so the fact that she was making calls to him and they're rolling straight to voicemail is making her even more concerned like she knew was charged. He should be picking up but yet every single one was going into voicemail so she starts calling around to friends and family but no one has seen or heard from Tim. Her bad feeling begins to grow and she couldn't sit sit around and wait anymore so charlene reports her husband missing to the Hamilton police. By the time the Sun comes up on May seventh. Police were already starting their ground search urge with officers and their canine unit. which just goes to prove that you can file a missing persons report as soon as possible? Yeah absolutely like there's no time limit. I mean that's one of the things we've heard over and over cases people being told by police. You have to wait time. I would hope now. It's two thousand nineteen like everyone knows. That's not a thing but if something happens if someone when you know where to go missing you have to wait no amount of time. So when police assigned to Tim's case start looking into his life they find that by all accounts. Tim had been living a totally normal life. He went to work every day. He came home to his wife and his young daughter. They had built this home in an Castro Ontario. Like he's active in his church in his community like literally. According to every source I read for this story from like books to local media national media. He was not the kind of guy to just up and walk away or disappear disappear so when he did disappear people noticed and like I said they start this search right away. In addition to the ground search police also set to work work on getting the public's help to locate Tim's black dodge ram truck like it's big it's flashy. It's hard to miss. They think this could be the best opportunity for someone to find him him. If we find this truck I and it turns out someone had seen the truck in Brantford in this is about twenty minutes from the Bozeman home and at about ten after ten on the night that Tim went missing. And you know what else they found in Brantford. Is it like to hopeful to want them to find him. Well that would make for a really short episode so no. They didn't find him but they did find his phone now. On the one hand the investigation seemed like it was moving pretty quickly like again like the night of the truck spot the next day. They're searching they find the car they find him. He's we're actually developing but on the other finding the phone without Tim mm-hmm meant that he had likely not disappeared on his own. which again I mean people have been saying all along but like that confirmation? I'm sure people were holding out hope that this was all just a misunderstanding uh-huh but they at least had his phone now and they needed to dive into the records they knew from Tim's wife Charlene that the men who had come for the test drive had contacted him by phone at least twice wants to set up the time and then another to basically alert him that they were GonNa be late so police had this number and maybe that was going to lead them to tim so it was super easy to get the number but when police track the number they also get a name Lucas Bait eight so according to live trial coverage by Adam Carter of the CBC police went to great lengths to find this Lucas Bait person they track down where the phone is purchased and they go get surveillance footage but they weren't able to get the surveillance footage so too much time had passed at that point between when it was purchased and when they were looking for it but they were able to get an address for Lucas beat now he's address was one in a nearby neighborhood of Toronto so not too far away but the address led them to somewhere really unexpected it led them to a highschool highschool a high school that had never heard of Lucas beat so of course the police realized this phone is a burner and I'm sure most of our season junkies know Oh what a burner phone is but it's really basic phone with basic service Nobel's no whistles like you have to register it but you can register it in bogus names bogus Addresses right contractor. Anything really official tied to it. I mean you you could just be anyone. It's basically registered to a ghost and this is what the situation is here and unfortunately even though we have this number it seems like the name we have is fake and it doesn't offer any new information. But here's the thing. It wasn't wasn't a complete dead end when police access the phone call history which they could do. They see several other Toronto area numbers burs listed as outgoing calls so the imaginary Lucas Bait led police straight to the man who would blow this case wide open and the man who was the key to this case was named eager. Now it turns out Tim. Bozeman wasn't the only diet with a dodge Ram for sale eager had one listed on line two and it turns out a few nights. Prior to Tim's disappearance eager had taken can two guys on a test drive and his story sounds just like the one charlene Bozeman told her husband now. Two guys arrived at his house now on foot looking to test drive a truck now. The only difference is that Ebor came back and Tim. Bozeman did not okay but like what's what's the difference like why take him but not eager. Well so there's woman named an broker hurt who wrote this book dark ambition and she also covered this for the Toronto Star. According to everything she wrote. Police said quote that he was a very large individual who could easily have overpowered the suspect. So I think Egos Gore was a much bigger guy and presented like a bigger challenge for them than maybe Tim would have so as police talk to eager about his experience. I mean we have now a living witness of likely. The two guys who took Tim eager tells them that one was a smaller guy. In a baggy sweatshirt with his hood pulled up and the other was a taller man carrying a Satchel and sporting a small tattoo on his wrist. That read ambition so now police were actually getting somewhere aware so this is when they take this information and they go to the public to ask for help. Find a guy who carries a Satchel and has an ambition tattoo. They said so within within hours the phones are ringing and not once but twice to other Ontario policing agencies are the ones that are calling though and they say we know who your guy is so on May eleventh. This is just five days after Tim. Bozeman went on that test drive. Police announced publicly that they've made an arrest out of nowhere. It seems they arrested a man named Dylan Millard. When police originally were brought to him mm-hmm Delon looked like he was the last person you would have picked out to kidnap a guy in steel? His truck there's this article from Robin Levinson King being of the BBC that gives a perfect life and times overview of this guy. He was basically twenty-seven he's the heir to a multimillion dollar aviation business during his grandfather. Yeah and then continued by his father at fourteen dollars a record. He became the youngest Canadian to fly a helicopter and airplane Solo on the same day. His life wasn't perfect though like six months before all of this happened this whole Tim. Bozeman thing went down. Dylan's father had actually died suddenly surprising everyone everyone in the community especially those closest to him now his parents had also divorced. Wendelin is really small and it was exceptionally hard on him but as he got got older and like grew into himself Dell became kind of a party boy with this big social circle he would host friends on the weekends. He even moved people in when they needed needed. A hand and like his social circle included no shortage of young women and it would come out later that was like Kuwait the cazenove like dating eating and sleeping with multiple partners. He also owned multiple properties in Ontario. He had like several luxury cars. He usually bought them in cash and his friends would always estimate that he was worth between ten and twenty million dollars. So why is he ceiling trucks. So that's the thing that doesn't make sense right right like he didn't need to he could've walked onto any car lot anywhere and just bought one in cash and it's his friends say that he used to do and again. That's why when and police were like pointed to him. None of this made sense. Why is this guy kidnapping a guy for a dodge ram truck? When he's got like a lot of luxury cars? He has multiple multiple homes. Like it wasn't fitting. It didn't seem like the profile right right. So the night police finally brought Dylan Millard in was like a scene from a movie according to the CBC BBC police surrounded his car guns drawn and placed him under arrest in his front pocket was three hundred and fifty dollars cash and three black latex gloves when they search his car on his key chain were the keys to. Tim Bows Men's truck now. Police may have a suspect in custody. But they still don't have Tim Bozeman. Tim's family and friends. Even investigators were hopeful but the mood had started to shift. It had been five days since that test drive. No one had heard from Tim if he was is alive somewhere. Like what kind of shape would he even be in at this point now. Police weren't speculating publicly about the outcome but their actions spoke volumes volumes. The case was being led by the Hamilton police homicide squad and when reporters asked if this meant that it was a murder investigation police would only say. It was as a missing persons case with unusual circumstances. The community did all they could to like surround and support the Bozeman. Police would say that in total over seven hundred. Tips came in from the public about Tim's disappearance and many of those tips did help inform the investigation. Now one of those tips led police to the home of Delon Miller's mother whose name was Madeline Burns now when they pull in the driveway of this like well appointed home home they notice one thing immediately a giant vehicle trailer parked in the driveway and when they look inside the locked vehicle trailer which which was registered to. Dylan's family business. They find a dodge Ram pickup truck. The Dodge Ram pickup truck. Tim's pickup truck ironically enough though when they find it it's Sunday may twelve mother's Day and this is when they find it on Dylan's mother's property now inside the truck police find shell-casing gun powder residue and fingerprints belonging to Dylan sprayed with luminol and viewed under a black light. They could see blood evidence and signs of cleanup now again. This is great. We have more evidence however still still no ten. Yeah and we're getting less and less hopeful now because I mean we have tim struck. We have tombstone. Don't have ten. But we have signs of someone shooting shooting a gun and cleanup so the police again not releasing this to the public are more and more concerned. That what they're looking for at this point is a body now. During this time they were also searching other properties owned or associated with the family and Delon himself owned four properties. A house farm land into condos. Police were at the farmland property when they ran into this guy named Chaz main now this guy liked to like bomb around the property on his a t. v. and according to an Brocklehurst reporting chas didn't know or had in fact never met Dylan even though Delen had owned the property operative for several years that he was like tool around on his ATV wet but even though he didn't know him. This guy was valuable to the investigation. He tells police he's that he'd seen some strange stuff on the land. Not Creepy strange just strange strange like heavy equipment equipment including an excavator stuck in the middle of a swamp and what he called a redneck smoker in the woods. So police are like okay. Why don't you show us what you're talking about? So chaz takes them to this clearing in the woods where he'd last seen what he called that rednecks smoker. You're just a day prior and it was a decent description like it certainly looked like basically a giant barbecue but it wasn't it was six feet tall ten feet long connected to a one hundred pound propane tank like this is not the kind of machinery that you see every day or maybe even ever. I've never seen anything like this in my entire life. I've I would. Maybe say that. I've possibly seen something like this at like a butcher. who also does barbecues on the weekends? We literally did like a hog roast years and years and years ago my family did and we had like this metal. Hello container thing. And it was still wasn't even that big like it's massive and so on this massive thing there. Is this like metal tag that reads needs small and large animal cremator -t's a- product southern breeze fabricators. So this isn't just like a barbecue. You this is a cremation device and on the side in red letters was something that it looked like delen had put on. He had named the device. He named it the eliminator now given the size of this machine. Police had the same concerns that you and I just did like like. This isn't made for a barbecue. You could fit in entire person living or dead inside so with a little trepidation. Then they check inside but it was empty however not entirely empty inside. The incinerator. were several very small tooth and bone fragments now unfortunately when they take those to be tested there wasn't even enough there to test for for DNA and even if there was the high temperature in that incinerator basically destroyed everything but even without usable DNA. Once the experts arrived they were able to confirm that the bones were in fact humid not some kind of animal bones so once the police knew that they were dealing dealing with actual human remains. Police called in one of Canada's leading forensic anthropologists Tracy Rogers right away in fact it was she who climbed climbed into the eliminator to sweep out every last bit of bone and ash and she's actually the exact same person who several years prior had led the team of experts. Experts and students to identify remains found Robert Pickton's farm who we talked about like a month or so back so this lady like the professional the lady in the area now now the sum total of what Tracy pulled from the incinerator weighed about like five hundred and three grams or just over one pound and police were certain this was all that remained of Timbo Zeman so the scene inside the truck and the remains within the incinerator told a frightening story of Tins. Last stay alive investigators. Were now sure that he had been murdered that his remains had been destroyed. And that Delon Millard was responsible for all all of it after notifying Tim's wife and family. Police announced that their search for Tim. Bozeman had come to a heartbreaking conclusion and that Delon Millard would be charged with first degree murder on May twenty second two thousand thirteen. Hundreds of people gathered at the Hamilton Church to remember Tim. Bozeman and lay his remains is to rest and throughout all of this the people of Hamilton and throughout the province of Ontario. We're just dumbstruck. Like was this man really killed over a truck by two complete strangers. one of whom again didn't need money at all and the biggest question though is there were two stranger so we've got one of them behind bars. But where's the other guy who is the other guy. At least one of the public's lingering questions was answered later for that very day when police announced that they'd made their second arrest in this case a twenty five year old man they mark Smith he liked delon in Millard would be charged with first degree murder now. Mark couldn't have been more different from his friend who he called Delon. The Felon Mark was a high school dropout. Who Gotten by from the money that he made selling drugs his chosen job got him into a good deal of trouble with the law? This guy was like not an upstanding citizen and in this documentary called the devil had a name produced by the CBC one of the People Interviewed said that mark quote clung onto and looked up to de Lillard and based on everything else that I've read about this guy that's a pretty apt description for their relationship. Being around Elon gave mark access to things he would have otherwise never had money Moseley but there were other like comforts and thrills that like money can't buy that like delen Ellen had access to. He was just one of several hangers on that swirled. Around Ellen Miller life what police learn is that the two had spent the last several years ears stealing vehicles and equipment at random sometimes just to destroy it. It's not like they were even selling this or using it or just the thrill oh it was for the thrill all while flying completely under the radar so that was kind of the question. Police were asking like was Tim's death and unfortunate result of a vehicle. Theft gone wrong. Or was it the culmination of what one friend of the two men called a quote succession of thrills us now at about the same time. The police were arresting mark and charging him with murder. 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The iron iron old irons are boring. Irons take a long time. Pick up connors turbo extreme steam hand-held steamer today all right now back to our show one day police got a call call from a worried set of parents their daughter Laura Babcock had been missing for almost a year and on the surface. Like okay like there's a lot of people missing. What does this have to do with this case? Why are you calling now right well? Their daughters ex-boyfriend whose name was Scott told them that when he heard. Dylan's name on the news news. 'cause obviously this is like a huge case being publicized everywhere. He remembered something important after his ex went missing he had gotten her phone records and and the last eight calls that she ever made were to Delon who she had dated for a couple of weeks and then kind of had like a friends with with benefits thing happening around the time that she went missing when police take a closer. Look at Laura's case. They learned that during the summer of of two thousand twelve twenty-three-year-old Laura Babcock had hit a bit of a rough patch. She was a university of Toronto graduate from like this middle class family but she was working as an escort at the time and using drugs daily she had basically transformed from this rosy cheeked brown haired girl next door to very thin and a very troubled young woman. She'd been fighting with her parents about the rules in their house. which is wide during the summer of two thousand twelve? She was basically couch surfing between friends and escort clients now. Laura had well known and well documented mental health issues as well and they were at an all time aim high during this period in her life because again she was self medicating with drugs. She wasn't seeking any kind of help for your mental health issues now. It's around this time in her life when she's a couch surfing going from friend to friend that her ex-boyfriend Scott now he's the one that initially like made the connection to Dallin. He felt bad for her. He like still really cared for her. You saw that. She was struggling so he had been paying for a hotel room for her and loaned her an Ipad so that she could look for work and housing but they weren't together gather right no they had just stayed in touch and again he was just like very worried about her and he wanted to make sure she had places to exactly he just really cared for her so at this time is when she has this friends with benefits thing happening with the problem is at the time that they have this arrangement enjoyment delen had an actual girlfriend named Christina now Christina and Laura knew each other they ran in the same like Big Circle of Friends Suns Circle that included Dylan and Christina News. The Dylan had dated Laura in the past but in her mind like it was completely over now. The problem was this Christina was kind of like a mean girl and would poke at Lauren even though she thought that the the relationship was over. They weren't together on Laura's birthday Christina. I sent a text message that said happy birthday a year ago today was when I I slept with Dylan so laura like not wanting to take any of her crap shoots back immediately and said quote. That's fine I slept with him a few weeks ago. So you can imagine that Christina was not happy she was done sharing her boyfriend with this other woman and Dell and had to like intervene she goes to Dell and she SUPERPAC. I want this girl gone. And he told his girlfriend girlfriend that he would take care of the situation and he wouldn't let Laura Babcock bother them anymore. The last time anyone recalls seeing Laura was June twenty sixth two thousand twelve and for the people who loved her it was like Laura just vanished into thin air. Did you say data cheated missing for a year by the time it was reported like was this the first time the police were even brought in on the investigation so no. This is at the time that they're like brought back doc into this is about a year later but it wasn't the first time that her parents had called police about their daughter's disappearance in fact she'd been reported missing only after a few days by both her parents parents and Scott back right away but when police looked at her situation at the time in particular her lifestyle of drugs and sex work and and her history of mental illness. Basically kind of chalked it up to like. I don't know maybe it's on her own that she went away like it was just a very low priority and at one point the Babcock's were told that Laura would probably just be backed by Christmas but Christmas of two thousand twelve came and went with no Laura so now that they've been like no brought back into her case it's back at the forefront and might have a connection to someone that they have in custody police are trying to make some kind of connection Chew Doan but all they have a few phone calls and this ominous statement to his girlfriend. But that's not much however these stumble across Ross Aclu in a very unlikely place so shortly after marks arrest police were searching his place looking for evidence to use in a trial to support a connection to the Tim Bozeman case but they actually find something else. Instead in mark's room police discovered not only Laura Babcock's doc Cox ipad but also a Duffel bag with her name and address on it so the evidence is starting to pile up and it was painting a really grim picture about what could have happened to him and to Laura and maybe even others now in in all of their searching. Police never found Laura Babcock's body but once police had enough probable cause and did a little more thorough search of everyone's cell sell records Google search histories all electronic evidence. They knew everything they needed to to know what happened to her. That night in July basically cell tower information showed that Laura in Dallin were together on the night of July third. They together drove to Dillon's house where they spent the night. Then the next next morning July fourth they drove along Lake Ontario. In the direction of Dylan's farm now on the way at some point Laura's phone suddenly suddenly stopped sending and receiving messages but Delon's phone continued on to the farm. Once he gets to the farm he snapped a picture picture. Just outside of the barn of this. You know what I need to show you. Okay I just sent you the picture that he had taken like almost like shortly after he shows up on the farm but no one else it is a blue tarp just like a normal blue tarp but it is rolled rolled up like a carpet. Like there's a body in it. The exact shape of a human body that this dude is taking a picture of. It's like taped around onto is now shortly after he snaps this picture again. He's like leaving this digital trail. After he snaps the picture he sets a reminder for himself in his phone for July seventh and the reminder says quote barn smell check. Oh my God yeah yes. So I I mean it's easily pieced together so delon got himself a few toys around this time to like like. He got a gun that he purchased the day before Lara disappeared. He got the eliminator which arrived just a few days after so there is a very a clear pattern of his planning of his intent. And what actually happened. Even though we might not have any physical evidence anymore almost three three weeks would pass before Dylan and his sidekick mark would burn Laura's body on July twenty third delon tax mark quote. BBQ has as run. It's warm up. It's ready for meat and later that night records show that there was a screen shot of the answer to this question. entites into a search engine what temperature is cremation done at. I mean did Google himself so it's not totally clear your weather. He did the search or not but he whether he did or not. He definitely saved the photo. You know like for reference. I mean I don't know. So while Delon and Mark Mark Burn the body of their one time friend Laura Del and took a series of photos. There's some of mark smiling near this like family business. There's one of mark posing in front of the eliminator and there's also pictures of the interior of the incinerator in flames and just in case ace. This isn't enough incriminating evidence mark. WHO's like a wannabe rapper? I guess was inspired to write these lyrics that very evening that started but it off all skin and bone now that it lay on the same Ashi stone last time I saw her outside the home. And if you go swimming you can find her her phone. Oh my God yes so. Police found those lyrics on the IPAD that Marquette in his bedroom and now he thoughtfully renamed it marks marks ipad. Though it was in fact Laura Babcock's IPAD that he had stolen from her in addition to all of the Electronic Evidence Against Ellen. Police also had had sixty five letters that he'd written from prison to his girlfriend Cristina in the letters which will link to the blog posts for today's episode. Delon tells her that they need to basically get their stories straight about the night that Laura went missing he tells her that basically should save. She gets asked that Laura was at Dillon's house host that night and that she and mark we're using drugs in the basement and she likely overdosed. So Dylan Asks Christina to destroy the letters to protect him but for whatever reason then and luckily she didn't so police are tying things up. They have another case that they're building like a really strong case against both Dylan and mark. Four Tim I'm now for Laura but the investigation into these two monsters wasn't over because police saw something in Dallas background. That stood Out something that they thought was worth taking a second look at this episode was made possible by uncoming coming goods which is a website that has unique fun and beautiful things for you or Tis the season gifts for others. I have a few people in my life I just never know. Oh what to get them. 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That's uncommon goods dot com slash crime junkie to receive five dollars off your first purchase. Right now back to the show. There was a case. Police had investigated and closed six months earlier. It was the death of Wayne. Millard Delon's dad now Wayne had been found in the suburban Toronto home that he shared with his son Dylan on November twenty nine two thousand twelve. He was dead from a single gunshot wound through his left eye. Now police and the medical examiner were called to the scene and their brief investigation ruled the death. A suicide Wayne was lying in bed. There was gun on the floor next to his body open and shut they said but now investigators wondered if maybe it wasn't so open and shut. Maybe they'd made a mistake. Because maybe Wayne Millard had found himself on the wrong end of his adult sons. Killing spree. Delon was after all the one who found his father's body that morning and when questioned at the time he told investigators that he was staying with a friend of his father's death and of course you won't be surprised at at all to know that the friend that he claimed he was staying with was mark. Of course. Now here's the really interesting part. I think at the time of his death. People in Wayne Circle like employees employees and associates were actually told that his sudden death was the result of a brain aneurysm. They had no idea that it was ruled a suicide so there wasn't even even anything for people to be suspicious of his employees and associates. Didn't even realize what had really happened until Delon was charged charged with Laura's murder and then Wayne's murder and that's when the people close to them learned like the truth about what really happened to him and I think if they had known like the real you'll cause of death like maybe his employees could have raised alarm bells a little bit sooner because the story among employees when they actually got talked to was was that Wayne was threatening to cut off his son financially. Like basically they knew that Dylan was spending way too much money not taking any responsibility for the family business snus and like kind of trashing. This family business that his father and grandfather had worked so hard to build up Wayne had basically gotten to the point where he wasn't GonNa sit by anymore and watch. His only son ruined the business that he worked so hard to build so he was about to cut him off again. All of this is going on and nobody really knows that because at the time police were like open shut and then everyone decides to lie about how he died so like the right. People weren't connecting now once investigators reopened this this case. Luckily they did have physical evidence to revisit. Specifically there were these X.. Rays that showed the bullet and its trajectory through the eye and police had kept the gun that assumed weighing used when like the death had happened when it seems like it was a suicide will. Wouldn't you know it. The gun had Delon Alan Millard. DNA on yeah and more than that Dylan had purchased the gun like it was the one that he had bought in the days before Laura Babcock's disappearance disappearance and probably I don't know this for sure but probably the same murder weapon and you know it's so interesting when I look at this specific case because recently I I was talking with a retired state police investigator from another state and he had some really good insight. He said you know back when I was running my squad like I taught every investigator investigator to treat every death scene like a homicide. I like. It doesn't matter what it is like old guy in a nursing home woman found the side of the highway or even a scene. That looks a lot like a suicide. Treat it like a homicide. I because it's so much easier to like back down from a homicide to a suicide than to go the other way around right. So as a part of the reinvestigation the coroner who ruled the death as suicide at the outset admitted that it was the first time he ever seen someone die. Hey by suicide with a gunshot through the eyes so he was new to him I guess but like he said it seemed clear to him at the time fine but he could like see looking back on it that maybe was his inexperienced. Here's the part that like I can't chalk up to inexperience. Apparently even at the time like Nick even though they thought it was probably a suicide. They tested his hands for gunshot residue. There was no gunshot residue on Wayne's body like anywhere of course there wasn't so yeah I guess like I don't know how you rule that a suicide like I'll never figure that part out it doesn't make sense. It's to me so during his initial questioning. When police like originally investigated Wayne's case and decided it was a suicide Delon told police that his father was was lonely? He drank too much he was having problems with the business and like some of that was true. Wayne did have known issue with alcohol but at the time he was in a new relationship relationship it was going. Well they had this spin off aviation business that he spent years building for his sons and was close to opening doors to the customers alike. Yes he might have had some problems with alcohol but like everything else in his life seemed like it was on the upswing right. The morning his dad had killed himself dylan was cool as a cucumber. Speaking to police like on the morning that he supposedly found his dad dead comb collected. I mean I guess. Not so calm that it raised flags but he was like definitely cool. Definitely collectives enough to be notable. Yeah well he has so much so that police didn't really question him because as far as I could find they never tested his hands for any kind of gunshot residue because if they would have they likely would have seen something there in the end Delon and mark were tried an convicted in two separate trials for the murders of Timbo Zeman and Laura Babcock for their crimes. They'll serve two life sentences back to back with no possibility of parole for fifty years for the death of his father. Delon was found guilty and was given a third life sentence with no possibility of parole for twenty five years to be served consecutively. After his other sentences total he'll serve about seventy five years before he's eligible for parole and when that time comes he'll be one hundred and two years old. Okay so there's just like one thing that's kind of still unresolved for me so I feel like we're all reasonably sure that Delon Ellen himself was responsible for the death of his father and for Laura Right. Yeah I'm I'm pretty sure okay but Tim. Bozeman was a complete stranger ranger to both guys like. What was the motive and for that matter like who actually pulled the trigger if they were both convicted? Yeah see that's the thing the evidence it doesn't tell us who pulled the trigger but the crown didn't necessarily have to prove that in court Bay said that those details like who actually held the gun who fired and it didn't matter. It only mattered that Dylan and mark both knew what was happening that night and that they were basically in it together overall the case against both of them World largely circumstantial and tied together with like this digital footprint of texts and calls and web searches and photos like all that stuff that they left behind. It's interesting because at the trial they pretty much admitted to killing Tim Bozeman but each of them were pointing the finger at the other. The majority of the defense's case was is built on exactly this kind of finger pointing Delon said that he was surprised when mark fired the gun from the backseat of the truck. During test drive that basically like mark was high a and he was shooting on accident and mark said he wasn't even in the truck when the gun was fired he was falling behind in. Dylan's SUV like the whole trial is like this back and forth and back and forth finger anger pointing finger pointing but when mark eventually went to trial like these were separate trials. The courtroom also heard from two young men like high school students who had bought drugs eggs from mark. They said that mark actually confessed to them later that summer and according to those kids mark told them that he had killed girl burned her her body and threw her in a lake so to even go back to your thing like hey we think Dell and killed his dad and Laura. I don't even know about that heat. Mark might have had a a bigger role in Laura's death as well but we will never for sure. No which is the truth or what. The full truth is and as for motive people people really struggled with this in the early days of Tim Bozeman investigation. And frankly I'm still struggling with it now like sadly it seems like the motive was simply a truck a truck dylan. Millard could have easily purchased with cash if he wanted to. But if you're looking for a better why and it's hard not to. There really really isn't one to be found here but I would say you know. It's hard to find upside in all of this. I would say like Tim died senselessly but it was his case and the diligence. Everyone who worked it that I think stopped a monster who knows where his succession of thrills would have led eighteen or how many victims he would have taken in his wake If you want to see the pictures from this case those letters we talked talked about if you WanNa see the sources that we used for this episode. You can find all of that on our website. Crime Junkie PODCAST DOT COM and be sure but follow us on Instagram at Crime Junkie potties and and we'll see you next week with a brand new episode uh Crime Junkie is an audio chuck production. So what do you think. Chuck the approve. Thanks to simply safe for being a sponsor of Crime Junkie and making today's episode possible.

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5. Farm Loan Waivers

Zero Down

08:15 min | 1 year ago

5. Farm Loan Waivers

"<music> hub hopper originals <music> hello and welcome back to another episode of zero down a hopper originated in this episode we talk about an issue that has been debated passionately in the recent indicts on the twenty ninth of november thousands of farmers from on the corners of the country mosh today this historic dubbed as the kazan more germont draw draw the prevailing agrarian distress into public discourse again approximately three lack farmers have committed suicide between ninety and ninety five and two thousand fifteen. Most of these sites are driven by pressures of indebtedness on farmers duty cycle production farmland income many like buying fertilizers and pesticides for crops you too extreme uncertainty of the success of the crop and this lack of proper interest show to ensure the seal of produce at the right price. Most farmers are stuck in the vicious cycle of day over the years. The indebtedness of farmers only getting worse or two thousand fifteen n._s. Ota sovi estimated that more than half off-farm households are in debt addressing this issue beta state governments have come up with loan meals means since two thousand seventeen eight states announced what one point nine hundred eleven hundred ps some political bodies have gone one step further and advocated a nationwide known when we listen in teary alone is not completely useless as often suggested in the nineteen seventies. A concept called laughable was emerge. George emerged after the economist arthur laughable who use an upside down new ship go to illustrate his point about taxation laugh targeted relationship between tax rates and tax revenue was such that sometimes increasing tax rates could actually decrease the tax revenue the laugh ago represents sense the idea in a graphical way and why it does happen with accusation of being an over simplified example of reality the point it makes sounds indubitably true. This has since been obliged to are they gonna mix as van some propose a deadly ethical which draws a similar relationship between the amount long of that country and the likelihood of that money being paid back to the creditors the idea is that four going some of the loan actually in the dude to pay back the best or the reduced amount long people seem to have this idea as it's typical basis the idea that waving off part of alone makes farmers feed more comfortable being addressed how long have not shown substantial effects on easing the agrarian distress for more more holistic view. Let's see how long we affect the different stakeholders in ward first. Let's look at the government on a political trend known waivers might be favorable before the populist electoral gains for the government but it throws bad to the fiscal discipline and fed culture of the economy into thousand sixteen entrepreneurs opt opt for llanview scheme that offered fourteen passing or benefits bottle be spent on the scheme giving achieve. Just voting of benefit is a board aditi. Similarly in rajastan giving to achieve levin benefits is also in spending thousands of rose unless effective policy policy leaves less for much more effective ones like allegation or infrastructure which later effect unbans is more indirect than that as these variables are compensated by the state government executives however home the credit card disrupted than reported in the past that there is usually leeann increasing n._p._r.'s after lawn was due to modern has ads for instance when upn announced don't in two thousand eight and cultural n._b._a.'s what close to two percent of the entire at the loan book but between two thousand nine and two thousand seventeen they have grown nearly six percent this this is more damaging to the government because again most famous loan are held in the banks banks also tend to restrict cleansing to farmers after weaver's denounce since they lose out on the interest payments and might lead the band to categorizing these loans as bad bones in the end. Uh of the all the damage is done do lawn vela's head farmers. The answer is quite disputed. Bills cover only formal lending hence known. I do not agree to any v._a. Benefits to small and moslem farmers who housley depend on informal bottling this is due to the fact that only fifteen percent thank the small families have access to institutional credit which are covered in these way was there are several other unintended consequences fun instance vich farmers do balloons even if there is no need for it in the hope of the next loan waiver scheme this will impact the farmers wet genuinely need of loans. What's bigger families are the main body was from from banks and other formula institutes and because of past loan waivers former lenders have reduced the traffic flock to the marginal farmers lending them to approach leading them to approach informal lenders the biggest reason as to why on our criticize is that they do do not adjust the actual problem which is much more complex and rooted and cannot be sold with a single stroke of vehicles why it does not worthy to lend a hand to farmers in that the solution cannot be permanent when does not take into account what is causing the dead in the first place in a sense it is like increasing tap flow to fill in the hole a real solution in water a great deal of the forms agricultural sector instead politicians get ovarian with history quick fixes that doing more damage than help as mentioned above lack of funds allocated waivers can be channelled towards constructive projects knicks dynamic benefit transfers to almost white light the light to bundle scheme delon ghana is one shot down solution built canals and reservoirs is to deal with droughts when needed conducting seminars about the user protective integration techniques encouraging farmers to adopt aquaculture and other type. It's a farming instead of relying solely on staple crops investing agricultural. I didn't enter morning. Organic farming fueled alternatives. They're more light can be said and more money can be bumping agreed in the state requires consistent and long-term reforms and efforts that we will as an initiative appeals dubious. I just shot them. Solution for a long-term malady mazen investment in the advocate tal sector is the need of the which may lead to increased mechanization improved <music> access to marketplace where the famous beck event housing and transportation facilities this would enhance the profitability of the farmers and would stand in their capacity to weather weather rough times such as routes and natural calamities. Why did we was definitely a relief to some families. Our focus should be on solutions that that fight indebtness by making farming profitable instead of writing way debts it says and vince and upbeat <music> thank you. This is all from us at if you wanted to send us more interesting stuff they stay tuned to down. I hope you enjoyed this hubbub original podcast. If you want to get started with your own show plays do get in touch. We'd love to have you onboard. Send an email to info at hubbub dot com. That's info at hubbub dot com and we'll get back to you in a flash. We're looking forward to creating some great audio content together.

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Episode 56: Pray For Didi

The Short Porch

58:33 min | 2 years ago

Episode 56: Pray For Didi

"The. Todd, five ago, the body love these Aaron Boone, the Lido, his person of the. Out of the game. These. Just the first. The fortune ROY. What what happened? Welcome this of the thought porch. I'm your host hubs along some of the side of the laptop. Comey smokes. Tommy what's happened with up just to excited to have the CO tonight. It's been a crazy. Sunday was crazy Saturday as well. Just the, you know, I'm just that it was a good three end. 'cause the keys clint's was bad news. It's hard to do list. Also oughta really what you were doing was really the list. I was talking, I got it like mental problems. Only Jeffrey Dahmer from the ringer. Yeah, you should just got like drunk and anyone even had to try docu. I do not have all my God. I was. I do not have a list. I don't have one that was, you know, it's funny. Is it so hard to say the word lessees shell heart like you have a lisp. So arm. It's so I don't have all my God. It was the. I do not have a lisp. I do not get a lisp when I'm drunk. It was the phone. It was the connection in Cleveland. I've heard Cleveland turns you into a list. List person is this I don't know something in the air, but I don't have one. I'd never have never will. It's drunk thing. I do. My friends backed me up even though they were screaming in the background and they've played that. I mean waking up on Thurs when they do the pocket Wednesday night yet waiting making on Thursday, the hotel and getting all the shit on Twitter and then telling my friends and they, they just kept playing throughout the day at random points. Like we were out to lunch and he just played it. We were at the tailgate and they played it because it was just so funny and it was a miserable day, but and also took like I had to like, have some self reflection be like, wait, do we do this woman drunk. Like what's going on here. And then I no one's ever told me that. So it was it was the, I don't know, I'd is. You're hearing right now. You've been with me drugs. I'm not saying you normally have a list, but you don't know what type of phone would make, which is mix. Have a list like it was like a bad, have screen, anything have sprint, so that can do it. I don't know if that's look. It happens. You are just really drunk. You are slurring little and it was I, I mean, in retrospect, listening back, you had it basically from the gecko, but it didn't really sink in until whenever that eight minutes in whenever it is that I said something and then the rest of the time I just couldn't not hear it as funny. But yeah, I had it let mmediately it. Was that how you didn't notice from Surat? Don't know how to notice I, it was weird, but once I I heard it, I was like, Jesus also any better. Who do I remember I wasn't what was even like, really that drunk. I really like I ended up way when I was at was Wednesday night though. Yeah, I lost money on the night. I was very, I actually profit. I may look a hundred fifty bucks for the weekend, which is great. I played back up after the Browns game on Thursday and one, and I've never played back up before, but you just bend the player. We call Gary Gary Player of the golfer, but I've never played soccer. Yeah, I never had my friends love it. I don't know why that of craps is the one that's fun to play with a bunch of people crabs have never played before. I think there's lots of a super fun as the most profitable way, but obviously blackjack is my game, but and we were winning in that too. But no, I really wasn't like that. I mean, we definitely like that was that was the keys were destroying the Red Sox and then not destroy, but they were. They beat him up and. Ten one that there wasn't a lot I I have. I've actually discovered that I have the worst memory of all time like, can't do it. Like I, the only reason I I know all twenty five Yankees on the team is because like they're more hot now. No, I know, but now has forty like like the Packers like I have trouble like naming everyone on the roster and it's just because I just because I remember lots of things that's not a bad memory. I don't think I think very, very few football fans can all fifty three of the lakes. I'll have trout like like, it'll take me a few games to realize the entire offensive line. I have horrific. I can't process things in my brain for like like lots of loss of your mission. I could also be very stupid that that saying like, I can't process things in my brain is just like, tell your line. Okay. So let's kiss Yankee talk. We did not win the division shockingly. No, I'm just shocked. This is barely. It's been, we've known since early since since the Fenway series. It's been a foregone conversion. I'm gonna try and see what I actually lost Ono, why lost faith officially when they had their chance when they swept the raise in Tampa, that's when they had their chance. And then they came home. Remember correctly is tesla memory, but they had that home series against the White Sox and Tigers that that's the week, right that it was over because we could have cut it to five or four them. And then you ever got head to heads left's Boston had some tough game since the Indians come up the Astros, but when they lost that week week to the White Sox and Tigers I think they won. They went three and four something. Yeah, that's one. So, yeah, this is not the biggest shock control. Obviously, I did not want the Red Sox clinched home field in the almost of way doing it, which you've been massive for pry purposes and they were unable to do that. They did pull it out tonight. Which sucks. Yeah, I thought they were gonna win that game. We didn't. That wasn't part of the podcast on. A last week, but I mean fucking call heads, grand slam. Andy hits it. So perfectly that just cleared the right field fence. You knew everyone was so upset Boston over that in baseball dimensions. I don't know if we got to this, I think no, but I was cut off right at the very end. The dimensions yet we talk about that. We talked about the dimensions. There's something else you're getting caught enough cut off from, but we, we had a pretty. We added a decent discuss on the dimensions. Okay. But regardless it came up again in just like, I almost wish it this point for the rest of the time that every single Yankee Stadium home run that we hit. It just clears the fence because I want I want I want to rub it in like nothing would make it better than if we play the socks nail the s. and in games, three and four, like they hit balls just cleared. It would make me so happy because you know how bad it would make Jared, but so they were unable to win despite your calls home run the bullpen, failed miserably on Thursday night. Honestly, like couldn't have been worse. They just like whatever. Very, very flushing. When you're when you have this bubble, they just don't do well, but so they move on pled good against Baltimore, Friday, Saturday, Sunday today was pretty terrible. We'll get into the rest of the begin, but we address the big elf in the room. I mean, d Gorce injury is horrible. Honestly, almost throw up when I saw it win fucking from zip out of nowhere. Scroll through my time is the ice. Tweet from Bryant Hoke. Yeah, I was like, this, can't I like checking the date was like just like an old tweet or something like, where did this come from? Just I know idea and I haven't watched the press conference yet, but apparently Boone broke it by the way. She'll I'll tell you what happened. So in hoax, tweet words perfectly because he go by the one because so Boone is talking about the game so much on these game in how he didn't wanna use levers and whatever. And someone forgot who it was. I don't actually, there's no economic the voice, but someone asked him, why were you late to the press conference where you addressing the team? Because a letdown loss of Baltimore couldn't do it, but like, hey, let's get going for the rest of the the finish out the year. No, wasn't that. He said he was talking to people that Didi. And then the guy who has the question goes is DO k. and you goes while he actually torque Arledge in his wrist last night, and that's what he was out today. And it's a chance he might not be back for the rest of the year. Just drops that Trump's through Ricat agile. Being in the room. I probably just looking at each other like is this a practical joke sprays? -i and someone did say, like, I mean, he might have just found that that information like two minutes before the press conference. So most might not have been in check, but like you gotta leave art with that or something. You can't just have it. Can't drop it like that. Can't be he. He announced his. It wasn't big news and it's major news starting shortstop. We Twitter, major news. I mean, the judge injury was big too, but when you consider the timing of this, you could say that this is even bigger because Didi is d most clutch player on this team. You shouted in the last wildcard game, the huge run against the twins at the bottom of the first inning. He killed Cleveland, they I'm Mike confidence in the one game, playoff right now is pretty low. If without Devi it is astronomically. Look, I will say they can't survive at least the wildcard game without him, but they won't do anything to play where we are on the opposite side here where you're sort of moving inky past card and not knowing you're you're more confident in the wildcard game than you are in the AOL DS. 'cause I think it will be at home and I don't see them losing at home at that crap. I will. First of all, we don't know if it will because Yankees can't beat the Orioles. I think we have to go the oils. The go. Seven, oh, this week and we. And if we go four and three, they'll get anything like we go foreign three in these next seven, which is, I don't think that's a lot ask for split with Tampa and win two, three in Boston or three or four gas like you can find for Wednesday next seven, Boston's going full hard Tampa. You know, might be a little, let them they really like decide like, yeah, let's play spoiler fuck these guys. I don't know. I think like being eliminated from the wild card is gonna hurt them. I guess, technically they're stole tiebreaker. Yes, that's why seven. Four. Three were good. Are we goods seven known fourth? No, we're not good. Seven, four threes when as get it? Yes. So writer six in one. The Ke's can go foreign three. Rice big, go five and two. They're on the road for they are on the. They're on the road on the real quick. I think it's it's the angels. The angels coming up there at Seattle for three in at the angels for three say six games. So I see two losses there. Yeah, I think so. I don't think that's two losses means we can go fucking three and four. Yeah. So. I mean, I just want me they want today. I being terrible shape, but it they lost the Minnesota grand. Be nice if we swept him have, we'd have to almost be lock of at once day. But I mean, so back the DD the reason I get past them with the wildcard is, I mean, hetch area is going to, you know, he'd play short. Glacier, got a second, or they align up where possibly Walker would play second and glib, replay, short and relates in the later innings. You suffered hetch various short move, glare back the second. That's your offense. Defense lineup. If you just wanna go full defense, you start Danny their short. What would you prefer? I mean, we're offering the lineup, you want walk in. It's not like he's a liability at second or glaciers liability, New Yorker, short key. He can hit one out, like, you know, I had survery, whatever's name is we want to pronounce it. I, I don't think it's, I don't wanna just sacrifice that much offense for the defense when I think they'd be fine defensively their way. I agree. I'm not called item. Knock if they do not have if they do not have Didi for awhile CRA game, I'm giving them less than fifty percent chance of winning the game. Okay. So the the injury is to his right wrist. I guess it was jammed when he slid home, can we stop sliding headfirst home? It just never works out. It would jammed up. He didn't even realize until this morning. That's why like you see him celebrating after the game. Although I don't remember seeing him too much in the post game celebration for the quenching the playoffs. But he said in the morning was very sure. So they checked it out. I'm just gonna pull the quote isn't encouraging quote out there. I have some movement in there. They say, like they say these things like this happened other players. Some of them have played through. We're going to see how it goes. It feels better if it feels better, I'll be back in there so we can make that playoff decision. I would not want to sit out and watch that water game. He's up there high level optimism. He can return this year. I think he'll be back. I, I think I'm a little uneasy that it's the right wrist and that's throwing wrist and really no room d. h. him because that FOX up the outfield and stands pretty much got a d. h. or judge whatever they decide, it will be. It'll be sen- by. I mean, we'll see how he took a course on shots at ice will see Iraq's tomorrow on a lot more tomorrow big day. Yeah, he wakes up and he's still massive pain that will suck no doubt about corrobos texting on the side is very weird, like dead serious. Like he'll be back like I've had the same injury, blah, blah, blah. Knowing fuck about you had the same injury, he'll play through it. So you know that cards coming de camp, big play through it. And I in my sixth grade little neighbors league twelve in when I was twelve sick, the fucking man shared good for you. We will not do anything. The playoffs past Walker game without de grace case in point need the gotten a lot of this shorts, the feeling ability with the combination of his hitting having career year. He's twenty seven home runs on the year. It would be devastating one of our best that are, where are you? If you wanna save this relationship? A wildcard game lineup, Gary, Roman. We're saving that for later we're gonna get into that in like two topics. We're gonna do a whole while card line on roster starter. Do wanna get back to today, Boone decides the not use any of the important guys. So on Saturday, the bull was great, extends the games, extra innings allowed Hicks, the walk for the win in that game. We used pretty much everybody. We used Chad, green Chapman Batanes his Britain, holder and Canley all combined scoreless. The four hits total of struck at a billion people that is exactly. The formula we want for the playoffs. Dobbs didn't have that on Thursday, the socks. But today he pretty much the that everyone is unavailable aside from Canley. So happy of the spy innings. One run seven ks. He's got a lead for him three one who you bring in the sixth inning in pretty much every game playoff game at this point with how close the as our and obviously with with the as losing today, a win would have been massive. Like the season Ville. Right? He AJ Cole. Why are you doing so that he so bad? So bad is the worst. He's the worst pitcher we have on the team. I put Sesing over him white. It's almost eight since the start of August, he had a nice little run in may or June whenever it was I, I would hope that he does not pitch another meaningful inning this year. Oh, will you're wrong? He's going to. I don't think I, I mean, look when it's it's hopefully the keys by like Friday night of clinch the first wildcard, and then Sarah Sunday, Jake cultures throws eighteen innings. They just start a both games just don't take out, save everyone else, human sacrifice. Who is that guy in the Mets? Got the Mets who just let him go out here. Like fifteen runs in inning, and he just retired after the game. Like do that day. Jekyll. Just keep out there like you're not coming out until you. I'm saying that enough. So coal comes in how many out you think edgy Koga. I'm gonna guess between zero and a half, he got euro actually got zero hitting get one out, gives us a good fifteen pitches magic. Give three runs net span. You're fucking disaster gives to home runs. Finally, Boone takes him out brings in Canley. Kelly does give up a run, but you know what? Kelly started the inning which lead, but now that run with five, three fucking disaster. And then Sessoms in it says a actually was okay, three innings, one run, but still like you need these caves man, and you're throwing me cold canyon Sessa you mean to tell me holder, let me let me check pitch count from Saturday, like us. Wanna see what would what we're dealing with here, who couldn't have possibly I understand Chapman trying to eat him back in. Unless you're eating pitchers, which is, I don't know if you pull up ahead of me or two if you wanted also wanna see a bitch Friday real quick, so which we not go back to back here. Okay. So Britain would have been three in a row. Robinson, been free. Narrow Robertson would have been from six pitches on Friday. Batanes is through relevent on Friday. Okay. So. What second? So maybe say holder could have pitched again will certainly I think is available with the reclining yesterday juice fucking last week. I think holder could have given trad green for sure. Chad green eighteen pitches. I think he can give you another NSM Delon anistan Britain. But I think Robertson and Chad green at holder could easily been used for one inning each, I don't think is an Canley and he did use Canley. I agent Colin Sessa in in a two run baseball game is insane. And then yeah. Oh, that's just that's crazy to me. They don't make if they don't win the home field because of that fucking game at, that's just insane. God damnit that piss me off a lot. I just didn't make a lot of sense to me and just fair. On agent coal to what. Some because on EJ coal to. Yeah, you gotta get outs. I mean, you're majoring pitcher. Sheffield. Yeah, that's what I mean. I understand. You didn't call him up to like pitching the most meaningful spas. They really just call them up because might as well. But I mean, I can we pitch Justice, Sheffield, one of these innings. I don't think that's a. That's a few vanities gonna be working in the playoff roster? Yeah, even Tarpley I mean, and it sounds like Sonny gray was being saved because they might use him as an opener slash starter in when these games. Tampa. Which honestly sounds like a disaster. That sounds like a lost cause. But yeah, that pissed me off a lot at this meal. What silhouette Saturday night? Yankees, clench playoff spot. Where were you in terms of if they should have celebrated? You know how hard they should have already, would you? Would you think about it? I was, I flip flop throughout the whole day, started the day thinking that shouldn't have celebrated wait till you secure the home field, and then I decided. All right. Well, you don't know if you're gonna get that home field. You might as well. It's baseball. You celebrate. Everything. So you might as well just do it? Yeah. I mean as much as I wasn't ecstatic about it, like I get it, they had a celebrate because I was not one of the division. That's cool, right? And the first wildcard, you don't know if you're going to get, and then if you don't get any end up with the second wildcard, they needed to celebrate it all. It's a long season. They've won ninety five games. They're gonna be in the playoffs there in the ornaments. So I understand them reflecting on it. He's been a a rocky season and you want to celebrate. But me personally, I wasn't like, I'm usually glued to my TV for the the post game celebration because they all along culmination of I wasn't really feeling that way like it didn't see my. This is such an awesome celebration. I still feel like things are down. Dan, I don't just lose the division like basically two days prior and not feeling super confident with how they're playing right now. I wasn't like, hell. Hell, yeah. Hell yeah. This been such a great season. Let's all take take a minute and step back so, but I get it. I I understand why? Why did celery I do think it was reserved celebration. I don't think there were. I think a lot of the vets like you didn't see said about the it really at any of that, even Severino believe is off to the side. Not really doing much there were it was basically and hard labor really were the only ones celebrate those guys. News or it's time ever in the playoffs Carla Gallo. For sure, and I never problem with it and I think it was a quick one. I think the celebrations pretty much over before even thought it with, you know, like they were showing something else on. Yes. Before I even like really oh well, it's been like six minutes. Okay, so I think that's fine. If you're going to sell it begs the biggest thing to celebrate and disappointing last couple of months. But at the end of the day is team's gonna win close to one hundred Dame's and they had a lot of injuries and they're still when their full strength. They're just as good a chances. The next team to win the World Series south Naina Silva, however many wins they end up with. Let's say it's ninety. Nine ninety eight hundred nine out. I believe they will be like the worst ninety. Nine win team ever. Oh, without question. I mean it's whatever new and it's the same way as talking as for homecoming yesterday, I saw a friend of mine I used to work with is big Yankee fan base. He's saying the same thing. I don't know why, but it's just this team doesn't his don't do in a one game playoff through this twenty seventeen. He's twenty eighteen gang twenty seven to twenty eight twenty seventeen every single time even though they're end up winning eight less games. Yeah, I think there was a GM sentence. I don't know if I chose or not, but especially like I mean in terms of like momentum, do you believe in momentum heading into the playoffs? And it's like, yeah, have you ever fucking fifty fifty of five hundred two months heading into the playoffs rather than like winning. Seventy percent of games last month. Like I'm gonna take it seems totally believing momentum. I don't even care how many wins you have for the year. Who cares about? We didn't April and June and July when you had a rocky fucking August-September like, that's, that's really all it. Mad gotta get your hawk going him. That's why I kinda like like if one of those NL like the rocky, forget what the Rockies seems like those teams that are just like really gotten going lately, like the cardinals, those that they get in, like who knows dangerous teams and I, yeah, I worry about the Anki for sure, not having momentum and not having that spark that the that the seven hundred seventeen did. So yeah, it's not great. I do wanna pull up. Judge said something after the game, I was focused on Voight to. I wanted to see. I mean, active urban, celebrate. I I was reflecting back like that guy in June was was fighting for at bats in Saint Louis on a team that was not not time that time they were not good. So they weren't ground make the playoffs. They had to go on a tear to get to the point there in right now, but he's twenty seven years old. So at that point in your career, you have to think like my ever gonna get a chance here, like it's twenty seven like baseball players from the twenty seven like, you know, you pretty much know what you know what you're gonna do. The rest of your career. You're going to be like this, this guy full around teams, and you know, maybe gets a, you know, plays first base to the seven days a week, like at best. So it gets he's thinking and flesh for two months later, he's like the hottest in baseball is the most homers in last month in business key cog on an almost hundred win team. Yes, I wanna pull the quote real quick. Judge had a great judged who's like, I know what you're talking. I was a captain quote. It was very Catholic. I just I quote to so harm up pulled up, but it was very, it was a very well the, you knew like he, he took it well, like, did. Walk me. I was struggling these moments in life. This is an embarrassing this way. I mean, I guess they didn't tweet thought really thought he did really thought retweeted got Brennan Cody those hoped Judd said he pulled aside Luke void during the celebration quote, we wouldn't be in this position right now. If it wasn't for you, you coming over here. I know it was a slow start, but you picked it up and you picked us up. We needed the big hit. You came through for us. I mean, that's awes- magin hearing that from it's awesome, but it's just it's a long thing to say to somebody in the middle of champagne just pull. That's like, that's the. I mean, judge wasn't drunk, but Luke vitamin. But like that's like when you pull your best friend over the bar. Usually the bar. That's it. It's like, I love you, man. It's not like I love you may everything we've well, I guess sometime this kind of long like our guys like, can we go. Can we go drinking. Lovely boy, a heat, three who's three halted? I some, I didn't expect the c. show I got. Let's talk about next wildcard roster, which is sort of easier to predict because you can throw less starters on the roster and you know it's different from the aled. Yes, roster where you have to really narrow down because you have to bring on your starters too. But so I got here. We'll narrow down the twenty five. So I will start with our lineups. This is if DVD's play, and I think Dede will be playing. So I've got mccutchen and left judging right Didi shortstop, Stanton age. I've got void hitting fifth as the first baseman. I've got an Hartford base hits center. Gary, catching glared second. I feel like that's the right one. Yeah. I really question here is Gary hitting eight, which they did that on Saturday liked it. I think he deserves today. I think he's I've probably I would have Hicks leadoff. I think I was twenty behind that. Mccutchen just has a higher will be. That's really just went with, but I don't know because it's gonna be gets fires. You want the guy mccutchen owns fires. She want more bats. Oh, yeah, that's true. I was thinking too. Yeah. I just love Hicks in that. I mean what's so he's three sixty four on the air. I think the Yankees maccagnan's like four hundred overpaid. Yeah. I mean it's a smaller sample three sixty all on the ear Hicks. Cy three sixty nine to three sixty four. I'm just trying to, you know, cut since four twelve with the Anki. So I like, I don't know. I just like kicks more in. I didn't think about the fires, but yet you know what? If it's fires, I go mccutchen one. If it's anyone else I liked kicks. I for the Wiggins really haven't seen a cut in hit lower than liked third that this team or cleanup. Yeah. So feel like they're just the, I guess, I guess we'll change it. It's fires right of I'd probably put onto our of voy-. I still trust in more at this point. Okay. Narrate a, yeah, I'm I'm almost would put reminded I tweet over the weekend on you saw that. But I like pretty much gave up on Gary and I like wanted to take it back, but I'm like, and then 'cause he did get ahead today. And next any strikes like, you know what? No, this guy takes like he can't hit the minding one eighty two. It's not like there's it's if he was a great if he's a great hitter. He has been the past couple of years. You would be able to live with the bad defender. He was an average hitter this year. You'd be able to live with, you know, average defense, he's a bad hitter and a bad catcher. There is nothing to this objective war should be like negative ten this year. He's a bad hit right now. He's a bad catcher at you just know there's going to be passed, falls in the game. You know, two wild pitches that probably should just be passed bald, look, I understand he has that type ability where with one swing, he could change the gate me on his arm is the really the big. It's not even his his one swing, his arm. He does control more did throughout a guide today. I did read that Romans costly percents this year with Gary is like almost even so really not good. Yeah, I, I don't know. I end it just he's not. He's just not a great hit. The once wing to me doesn't make up for everything else because he just hasn't had that many big kits enroll mine with. If there's a an opportunity with runner in scoring position in one out or so much. That runner. I want Romana up there for sure. I want real mind up there instead of Gary. So it's I mean, Boone said it's going to be Gary. So it's. Conversation, but I honestly would consider I consider doing it roll much. Yeah, I think I think the decisions should be had. It's just just have. I've been the biggest, Gary guy like I've hung on everyone else pretty much fell off the cliff. And I just like on a something happened this week and I was like, fuck this. What are we doing? What happened. She's like, what are we? What are we doing here? Why are we forcing selves to just have these past balls? Like I understand that while if he does start, Gary will come out of that game late for romance. You likely won't have the pass while you're way like, I can't imagine Gary catching like Britain in the eighth. That's that's. Yeah, we're chatting with that. Just what had or you know the flu side of that is though if reminds start which again will. But if remind did start, you would have probably gallery coming off the bench lately, games for one hit run at that depending on the situation. Right? Yeah, it's Gary. So the, it's a new cover. People who are acting like urinating, you don't know baseball. If you want us to moment of the lineup urinate, I hate you. I hate your guts. If you think watch the gene that expe- people think they know like he's guys sticks. Tell me that it's not even discussion. You're an idiot. If you think that it's fine if you think Ari desert should start, I get that, but to sale at Google. Real goal is one of your more. Yeah. I mean, and also I didn't give up on him for his career. Like I've given up Greg birds career. I just. I just coming up on our screw either. Don't with him for this year. Like I'll see more done for him for the wild card game because it's such a y'all, a winner, go home situation like I don't want one passed ball, the siding, my season, so I just rather be safe and do Roma. That'd be just my guts. Also my line of them we just gave. That's what I think will happen. That's not what I would do by were their role. Mine will be hitting like eight or nine for sure, but this is not going to happen. Okay. So I guess we could do a lineup in case, so let's dis not playing nut game, then what do you do? So I want Walker in for him. They sliding up for the three hole. And you're up. I was just gonna say, I maybe Hicks. White looks enrich all the righties then I'd probably go mccutchen drudge. Hick Stanton, Andrew, heart Voy. Walker disclaimer hit lasted any line of you. You just like turning him over like that? Yeah. I mean, it's had success so, and it's not like there's going to be someone awful, awful, awful in the lineup that you need to have blow. Well, role mind would be that guy. Well, yeah, but he's not gonna be right. Okay, she would so, yeah. Okay. So we would go, we would go with the Walker glacier, short lineup, and then hetch of our coming in for defense later shifting, glare back the second. I think that's a consensus move. But so that's what we would do. If you ask me what will happen I had if DVD's out hatch will start short. I think they'll just secure there and they'll have Walker come off like a bat also bench had should be the starting shortstop in glee replay, second, not what I want, but I think that's what would happen. I think it's a possibility for sure, but. I don't know to me Walker Labor's is good enough defensively, okay. Chanel will go to to the wildcard roster. So we've named are nine, let's this will be the whole thing will be if DD spot, because I think that will be most likely thinks named are nine. How many starters do you put on that roster for the Welker games. Starting like started pitcher for once. I believe it's a different roster for the LDS like you can just. Yeah, yeah, recites right. So I probably go in before that Bill. That's actually do. Who is your walk charter right now wants to that. I'm so torn that Severino star changed everything. I know boy every that's all we wrote were we, I kept saying this said he has the ability to just leapfrog everyone with one good start like that. And it's been too good. Starts row. So capable of just imploding though, and he just got shell by Oakland in his last start. Yeah. I mean, part of me thinks that he may just like take is nuts and be like here it is. I'm still one of the best pitchers in baseball and just have that shutdown start, but we'll know in the marriage. You'll know. I mean, you could always just hope he has it in him and if not, you just make it a bullpen game. Zeyer it. I. Man, I'm probably going. It like just sound crazy to start Jay half over Severino this point, not at this point, but just like in general, like Jay, have the journeyman veteran lefting Severino's a electric. You know. Cy Young candidate last year hadn't Yorio under two for half the year this year and Tanakh. I was all I, I'm still all on Tanakh. I know he had a Beth Oregon's the Red Sox, but I don't think that's totally knocking out of it. I'm going to go. Is so hard. I'm staring. Part of me party makes it feel like at least he got that stinker out of the way against the Red Sox. I people that go, Allie starter. He can't pitch against Boston, will won't be Boston. I'm just saying he just in the LDS that would have. I don't know if I feel good about the thing is though if Chevron knows back, we all of a sudden have a plan for. It's like a pretty good for sure. You don't know. So is lined up for Friday. So he is. He is lined up to pitch that game to say, but technically everyone else because you would assume so Tanaka Reno. I don't remember. These objectives are pitching Tampa because it really so I think so. Sounds like sonny's gonna start tomorrow or at least Monday when you're hearing this and they're gonna look the push back everyone a day. I believe that's what's happening try counter like, or he starting to announce, where's my phone? If I'm looking? I see here at Severino tomorrow, but that wanna make sense. I think they would put great Amaro maybe. And then that way Severino would have a week. 'cause you're not gonna starts every note Amaro and then having weight of a week. Today's actually for the wild card game Tuesday's the day, they don't have anyone announce. So maybe seven is pitching Monday. That's, but he he if he pitches Monday than what he throw them out of the bullpen on Saturday, maybe and he starts Wednesday, I don't like that. Open. I also like having them wait nine days, right? Don't like that either. Yeah, I it's why thinks sunny, I think is gonna. I would think they do the bullpen thing where it's sunny, maybe that's why they were holding off everyone today from pitching one name of the trying to get them all in a Monday at it's not doesn't make me feel great. If you asked me who is going to start the game, like just predict it not who I want. It's gonna be Severino who want is hat. I want I wanna grumble pitcher who had can rely on whose pitch well against this team. He pitched he held a one hit in that in that started Oakland on he, you know, you're gonna get five. This excruciating 's only star the with the, he's Detroit, but they also c. j. half getting knocked around for life. Four runs items and it's like, wow, we just started Jay half over have well, that idea you don't really get that would Severino. It's like, okay, well, you pitch your best guy like, fuck you. Gotta go right ship a point. I get that half but side from one team. He. Struggles against his whole career. I mean, what is have done to make you think like he can get knocked around like that? He's going to give you five to six. Good. He's gone. I don't know. Maybe I go, I, it's tough. It really is tough. Try how many lefties to Oakland has time ahead, Chapman, Lowry. Larry, switch dread lower switches switches. Okay. Pretty Paul. Some lefties. Damn, yeah. Okay. Gun in my head is Chevron does start the game. I think he's gonna pitch well against in his starting Tampa, the as if he pitches well, Tampa like Boston locked. It's over like it will be. It'll be. I hope I just the decision is made easy by the end of this week, casing think on call today that decisions all ready made that he did Severino. I've seen that around too, but I don't know. Okay. So let's say Severna. Do you take another starter and the roster? Yeah, I would still take. So looking at last year is can at last year's thing before. So they had, let's see. They had. They only carry ten pitchers overall said Severino. Chad green Batanes his warring keenly gray Robertson chatman c. seen tree. So this is our rosters yet. Wildcard roster what startles I had written down here. By the way, the lions are just absolutely taking it to the New England Patriots right now. I don't know what. Routes, you bet the patriots lions first-quarter as lock. Quarter or quarters. No. Got Delon roll this. It's to Canley three Robertson four Britain, five green, six holder, seven than obviously to starter would be eight. You're gonna go one other starter just in case nine. And then I think you need a lefty in their aside Chapman. So I don't think they can take Sheffield right now, but heart so Tarpley I think they might take him just for the hell. And that will give you ten through starters, eight relievers. I'm probably putting Severino Tanakh at half all new all three. Yeah, I think so. Just to have them in case it goes, Casey run into a seventeen inning game or something. At least you have multiple guys that you feel somewhat comfortable in given disaster heavy, go to disaster. So I would go those three not now. No shots. No, that's funny. Delon Chapman Robertson keenly Britain. Green told her. So how many is that? How many pitchers that? That's ten? I think ten is the numbers that's that's what I. Yeah. Awesome. If anything they're likely to carry, eleven pitchers more than like, not. I think they'll carry ten to eleven. Okay. So let's say it's ten than you got the nine position players in the line of nineteen in need six more. Got remind Gardner yet, Walker head, chevelle area. I think Tyler Wade has to be on there for a pinch running opportunity. And do you Detroit. So wait. I'm trying to think so. We have nine for art to their room for one more. So this is a sumo is playing. This is swimming TD's plying. She of Ronnie possibility bird alleys, any chance of that hope not. I would hate that. Yeah, to raise I get burned. I could see if we're doing more of a prediction. I could see bird may be getting the nod just because they they want that one swing. That would be a disaster. I mean, I would get show drummed if he came up in a tough in like basis loaded spot in like thirteen dinning I would. I would drink all the high action. I think they're going to end up probably end up carrying eleven pitchers and then just good bring with guys on the bench. But you grew taller way though. Right? He's got to be there. Yeah, for the running head for the defense garner still has to be on just, oh, yeah, runner name armor replacement. Yeah, that'd be. I think that'd be stunning garden. It was on. Yeah. Fueled. Right lead, I guess. So, yeah. Yeah, probably a rat. I, I think maybe I may just carry eleven pitchers and then probably it's Tarpley. Eleventh. See, I guess. So. Okay. How many starters they keep on the roster last year. Did you say that three? There was three starter seven relievers last year. Okay. Okay. All right. We talk about that I would go. Yeah, I would go. I wouldn't go against. I wouldn't go against last year. So three starters, and then you're looking at, we really want two, three, four, five, six, seven, ten. I do eleven relievers, throw Tarpley in there as a lefty or Sheffield. I don't think you can put Sheffield on there. I mean, you're not gonna put those guys in. That's like an emergency slot and that any go five players on the bench. I think that's fine. I may put in like. Scraps that I put in CC over Tarpley. Oh yeah. This point. Yeah, I wasn't. I mean, for if we were gonna go to lefty, I'd rather go to CC than Tarpley outta. Sure. That'd be so weird. Men. She she's warming from the thirteenth. Inning crushed. All right. Let's go to send DM's this week's DMZ sponsor by stamps con. These days you can practically get everything you want on demand like our podcast. You can listen whenever you want. Whenever it's convenient for you. Conveniences, all what the world is about. You know your your, your food from the from your bed. I her Domino's Friday night, electric. You know, you can watch TV shows whatever you want, do whatever you want, the move, whatever stamps calms your you for that. All you need, which stamps you access all the services of the post office, right? Wherever you are wherever you are you by imprint, real US postage for any letter. Any package is available twenty four hours a day. Seven days a week. All you do is click print mail. 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No. I mean, maybe if they score this touchdown, it'll be plus one fifty. It's New England Patriots to comeback from everything. First question here from a JC on a scale one to ten, how how confident are you that the world that the wild card game will be played in the Bronx. Scale of one? Well, just percent. I'll say it's like a seventy percent chance gets playing Brooks. Okay. So you're gonna be way lower than that, then it'd be fifty fifty. I on the game itself. I'm going to be like fifty fifty on getting getting it like seventy percent chance just because even if that the eighties like. The Oakland catcher plus one twenty eight right now Apple's one thirty eight. Anyway, I'm actually gonna wait till the end of this. Dr. He should should help Detroit scores, and then you can get money I want or take a lot of spread. I would put it out. Yeah, like seventy five percent. If they had one today, that'd be up like eighty five ninety, but they didn't. Who would this is from Ben bell? Who would you want that next year? Britain or Robertson? I think this easy one. Easy Britain, yeah, rusty young younger, right. I would think so. Yeah. And just has been more dominant has been better this year. I think it's easy. It's just like, I just don't want to walk tight ropes anymore. I'm pretty cough more than it was gonna definitely call more. Yeah. I pay, they'll be fine. Paying money in this, don't you work? They're going to spend plenty of it. They will have plenty of my gives Akron a one year Provea deal to have him. Just go bananas at he'll wanna prove a deal to feel like he can t nosing get his off is value even higher. I think he's going to be a multi year deal. Believe in that. Yeah, maybe to to your deal. I just think he he's gonna year two for will. Now that's a lot. I don't know the market though. So. Thirty to thirty. I said, oh, q for thirty. Yeah. I mean, it's not my money we're spending. So Michael Pell says, do you think the fact that we don't have? This is the momentum question. We did that the fact we won't be momentum will impact this year absolately on e. momentum. And final question will be from Nick, Tompkins. I don't like Sanchez in line about all, but I understand the threat. However, why is the consistency avoid in? Why is he consistently ahead of voting laboring lot, I would bat Sanchez, less no reason have one your best in tours batting, lest yesterday's lineup Saturday's referring to a little better than it has been with Sanchez at eight, but still I would put Voight glaze over Hickson Sanchez z. saying, like, why isn't Sanchez's consistently eighth wise towards batting ninth I do like about a night. I like how he turns lineup over your show many hitters when this is a fully healthy lineup, that light, whoever's gonna hit. Ninth is going to be like, you know. Why is that cutting knife? But it's not like Shane Robinson is in the lineup anymore. So assuming he's artfully health. I mean, if like head survivor ends up in the lineup that he's probably ninth assuming they're fully healthy. Gleyber nine. He's had success theory turns the lineup over well, and I dunno, it's it's not in ninth for its eighth isn't a huge difference. So I have no problem with him knife. Yes, same. But with Gary, I think he should make. He deserves his and finding spark with them. Then we have an amazing or any eighth who figure it out. So he still dangerous centering for sure. But he's, he should not be taking up Voight or and harse spot or any of those guys hitting out of, you know he or Hicks. He should be below all of those people. He's he's a waste of spot if he's anywhere above those people right now, it's hard. But yeah, that's our show. So we got four in Tampa. God help us, please. Please just win towns of ours house of horrors win to you, win three of the great Neil. God damn good thing is Boston does no reason Boston's gonna like pitch their guys, I guess in that series, like we're like, go hard like no one's gonna, go deep in that game. So. Yeah, it's at least dot full of a week. None means. Oh, it's going to be just pray for DeeDee at this point. Pray that that man searched is some feeling in his hand when he wakes up and and he's able to do it, God. Damn, that sucks. That's that. Suck the here. I just can't believe boom broker the way he did. It's like, oh, you don't deal assuring of the year. Shooter this this, but let's reliance driving. All right. L. that log money long by the way, guess he's Mickley when I mean being that Browns and thank goodness, the first win. Hey, was I brought them the win. Utterly they have literally me and also. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I rooted for the Browns my my best friend Yemen going to go into polling territory and Rufa the jets. I don't any. I don't any allegiance to the jets. Fuck that. Is this fun being plus my. I mean my the jets fans, we're with got it. This rate, I mean, Browns fans are ruthless. People like drop the hard f-bomb at not the word. Fuck. When we walked in, like welcome to Cleveland blank, like their law. There are like, you would just you. So you would expect that from Browns fans. They're just miserable people like you're not gonna walk into a team. That's when one game in three years in have them be like, hey, how're you up onto our city? Opium joy your night? Yeah. That was actually someone in my hotel was the short porch that was so many so many, the elevator. I was like, what? Why raise here his a few people at a homecoming yesterday said that they were fans for homecoming, you guys will say Chevy. Have you ever been Cleveland? Yes. So the ankles there in twenty. Twelve. Okay. I might have mentioned this on Wednesday show, but I mean, there are I, I'm just convinced no one lives in Cleveland is show up the Browns games because walking around that city for all Wednesday and even Thursday, I, they just have so many buildings in hotels and just no way is enough people in that city that only cities like that though. Like I, I've been like, Houston, was I Houston last? I know whenever I wasn't. He Sten last. I thought the same thing, Dallas. I've thought that there so many cities like New York is the so so busy that ever else just feels empty. Gets her that dealt with now working in New York definitely, definitely has got that is just that Brown was rocking they have this, oh, h ozone, which I guess is in Ohio State song, and it is fire. It's just like decides, got such a good be to the place was just Ray of this. They do the dog pound bark. It was just, oh my God, what a one atmosphere. I probably said I never know Yankee playoff game. So in terms of atmosphere, style number one, sports atmosphere been like just people didn't know what to do with themselves, and it wasn't like after game. Like they let us outlet, those city on fire. But like ever they were a little reserve. Those Browns have no idea how to clear out a stadium. The Yankees don't know how to bring people into the stadium, but the Browns how how to let people out because his stupid lake, right the stadium. So like you can only go one direction. So I was graph edges, don't jump into the lake stuck. I was. I mean, if they have lost if they had lost that game, like, I'm sure that would suicides. But the fact. That dropped it. The fact that it took us like twenty five thirty minutes to just exit the air. Like we got out of the stadium, but walking to an area where like the weren't a lot of people took thirty minutes. We were just in standstill what walking traffic for twenty five thirty minutes. So like the bars filled up ships which went the casino and then we drank few bars. But like it wasn't like I was expecting respecting the city clue, not even know how to handle a win and just below itself up did not happen. So it's why I'm here. But overall good trip. I will not be traveling officiel feature because it is time to just lock in for the. I mean every game is a playoff game. At this point I be going Oakland if it's in Oakland, which would be horrifying. So let's pray. I'm read. I know on going roughing rally and that's that Friday, October fifth. So that would be if he's got passed up one Handke's Red Sox, which would suck to only be like half all in that. But yeah. Otherwise at sons growing you off Frankie cheeses on my own Thuc. Oh my God. I'm not thinking about that gives me already, but let's just hope it's in New York. So Dallas brain has come on here. I've had enough doubt spring Moee. That guy tries to me if every game we win, they win any. Actually, they gained like seven games in one day on us, and they're coming death, Dallas. I know the Oakland a.'s are here fucking tweet. Me every day said, hey, helps you up like we won the same could today, like I say, Dallas going to have to work that game regardless rate. No, I don't think so. As on. Sure. Yes. Our doesn't like broadcast a playoff. It will be like cribbing post game. Oh yeah. But like during the game hill, like she would sit with us. I don't wanna go to Oakland Oakland fucking up. I don't wanna deal with that and San Francisco in general, just bad vibes. All we need to. We need to win four games just win four games this week, and then make Oakland make Oakland go undefeated. So we have to win four. I dare you to go on the field. I really wish I didn't just say that like definitely wanted feed. Yep, that's our show. Pray dis. Okay. That was terrible. Will be back here on Friday. Hopefully talking about a sweep in Surat in the drop, but we definitely won't be. 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Katie Groves The Courage to Not Give Up

Courageously Go

25:08 min | 1 year ago

Katie Groves The Courage to Not Give Up

"I'm ready to take the next step. I'm ready for university. That will help me advance in my education and career university. That will make me feel supported an connected them. Ready for ODU online. Click this ad or go to online dot EDU today. Welcome to courageously go where we will venture places. We've been afraid to go women of the world. We are going to start a movement a movement towards courage. Hello, everybody. Welcome to create Asli go. My name is Debbie pit-row. And I'm your host. And I'm so thrilled that you're here. This is the show where we have a global conversation about courage. Why are we doing this? I believe that when we live from our hearts by choosing courage the life of our dreams and a better world for all our possible. No matter our age or circumstances. We never never, and I mean never need to feel stuck or alone. These are essential truths. I choose courage. I use my voice, I embrace the new I welcome challenge. I continue to grow. I am a woman of action. I courageous league go if any of these. Statements resonate with you. Then you are most certainly in the right place. And we are so glad that you have chosen to join us. So today, we have very interesting guest. Her name is Katie groves. And I'm just gonna read a little bit about read the bio that she shared with me. She says this about herself I am almost fifty four years old in I'm legally disabled due to near agenda cardio Cinco. I'm not sure if I'm saying that right? But she can correct me when we when we bring her on here. She says this about that. My brain doesn't tell my heart to be correctly all the time and conversion disorder, which is very similar to PTSD on January fifth two thousand fourteen I passed out at church three times before rescue arrived and spent one and a half months at different hospitals as they tried to figure out what was wrong with me. Then I spent two weeks in a rehabilitation center undergoing physical therapy because I law. The ability to walk or even stand on my own at that time, I weighed nearly three hundred pounds and was considered morbidly obese I was in a wheelchair until August of two thousand fourteen where I was finally able to stand on my own and walk short distances. My husband Dale, who was also morbidly obese kept telling me that I would one day walk again in that I had to have the courage to keep trying I had a physical therapist come out to my home to three times a week to work with me. I believe that it was so much harder than it had to be because of my weight over the past decade or so Dale, and I tried numerous times to lose weight. Sometimes we did. And sometimes we did not. But no matter the outcome soon after we got off the quote diets, we would go back to old habits and gain back the weight we had lost. And then usually some extra pounds and two thousand fifteen we discovered a program that taught us how to get our bodies healthy. And in intern. Our bodies start burning off the extra weight in less than nine months. I last seventy seven pounds and Dale last ninety seven pounds. I was still disabled, but I began to dream of a future. Again, I began to have the courage. Stay that one day. I would now three and half years later. I have maintained my weight loss. I am walking. And I do have an amazing future. Now, I help others reach their health and weight goals, Katie groves, welcome to create Asli go. Oh, thank you. Thank you for having me today. Oh, I really I'm thrilled to have you. And I tell you what this is. I'm I'm I'm looking forward to learning more about you and your story here. But but what a tremendous thing, and it took a lot of courage for you to get to where you are in. And I can't even honestly can't even imagine like, I grapple with my like, I would love to lose twenty pounds right now. I really would I put on a little weight this past year. But I can't even imagine, you know, the the journey that you and your husband have gone on to to get to where you are with your health and your weight. So so why don't we just dive right in here? And you know, what would you most like to share with us today? Well, letting women knows that no matter what they go through either physically or even mentally that they have an inner strength and courage. I think that is what is already put inside us by by our Holy Spirit. And that we can overcome. No matter what we go through we can overcome and be courageous and be the the full woman that we can be Katie just clarify. There was a point in time that you are not walking. Is that correct? That is correct. I was in a very bad emotional state, and I actually lost the ability of my legs, and my limb arms and stresses funny thing restful fact, your body, and so many different ways and. Affect me neurologically when it affecting neurologically. I'm off the ability to walk and to talk, and I I lost that ability for eight and a half months. Then what was really important is that I was very fortunate. You know, my husband was such encourage or to help me get through the he was by my side, twenty four seven and popping me to let rea-, you know, reconfirmed to me that there matter what I'm going through physically that I have the strength, and that I will walk again, I will be able to do the things that I couldn't wasn't able to do during that time. So he just kept encouraging me building me back up started to believe it and started to regain that courage and started really fighting for myself and fighting that I can do the and push pushing through disappointment and. You know, my life really dry stickling changed, and we are very spiritual. We believe in you know. NG's christ. And god. And and you know, we know he is foundation and going to church one Sunday Alice still in the wheelchair through in August of two thousand fourteen and I went up to the altar to get prayed for and. And that that point the Holy Spirit said, you know, you could do this. You can walk. You know, I I feel him telling me, it's it's okay. Just go ahead and get up, and I had a very special lady that was standing in front of me. And she said you've got this. You can do this. And I stood up for the very first time on my own after eight and a half months being in their wheelchair being being in bed. Not being able to get out of bed and when I stood up. You know, it was like, okay. Just walk John. And when when you're when you go through some. You know, women tend to beat themselves up in their brains and there, and they they they have this whole conversation in our brain. And and we have a lot of that stress in our bodies. And we're talking to ourselves brain. We're not letting other things get in. We're not letting encouragement getting and we're not get letting the orchid, and and at that moment, I was like, you know, I'm a strong person. I've I've always been very very independent, strong and everything and then this happens. You know it. It's like, oh, I'm not really strong. I can't really just be you can. And when I got when I got through it. And I was able to make those sets I walked away from that wheelchair that day. And I've yet. To be back into that wheelchair. That's quite quite a story. Well, you know, what you say is to about, you know, the negative talk that we tell ourselves and it can be figuratively. And in your case, literally paralyzing, right? Yes. I think that's a really tremendous message. So once you really believe that you could you did. Yeah. Absolutely. Only because for a long time. I didn't believe that. I could I didn't believe I could. Live. And and it wasn't because I mean, I have a wonderful marriage. Wonderful husband wasn't from that. It was from previous relationships and those previous relationships were not a healthy relationship and not knowing how to get rid of those stressors. I never knew how to get how to release them. And I developed of all the physical problems from the mental stress from from the past. Well from that Sunday when you started walking what what has happened since that in your life. Oh, wow. Life has really really really changed. I. I know I know I I could no longer work. You know in a corporate level, but I I can help other women get that courage back. You know, my husband, and I we found a program that has helped us physically and all because of that physical health nece. It also started helping me mentally and knowing that I'm strong enough to be able to walk again be able to do things. Now, there's a lot of things I can't do anymore. But I've now recognized the I guess you would say triggers. So I don't do things that would cause me to tritter to have a repeat episode. So I learned to deal I learned to keep that out of my my out of my life. So like, I don't watch the news. We don't go to any movies that deal with life situation. We don't go. You know, we don't put stress we don't, you know, some people like that kind of stuff. That's not. It's not good for me. You know? 'cause when you did what life life situations in the past it can trigger and bring things into your brain of past that happen. So I just choose to take those out of my life and moving forward, and I have a happy life today. Now, I can relate to that. I know, you know, they're nights where I I kind of, you know, splurge on my I take my phone into bed with me, and I'm up late watching the latest on the CNN app, and that's not really really lead. That's not good for restful night, sleep. Right. And then then right? And then they're nights where you know. My husband. I take a break from TV I put my phone in the other room at bedtime. I actually read a paper book, you know, just a nice story or something, and or or or write my journal or read, something spiritual or inspirational, and, wow, what a difference, you know. Arrest restful place. So you're able to go to sleep and have a good restful night and not as also important for health to do that. Because when we get that restful night's sleep. Our bodies can regenerate. And if you're going to bed stressful. Your body is not going to get go into the ram plea that you need and your body's not gonna regenerate. And that's when when you wake up in the next morning, and you feel like you're just totally drained, and you didn't get enough rest. So you know, it's so important that we put the phones in another room. That's really good. Getting Lou light off of art. You know, get away from that were life because the TV and everything all that mess up our run our ram, it it recharges us and and keeps us awake. So we wanna do things that is going to help us to read a lot. So we can go to. Sleep and get our vice to regenerate. And that's one of the things that we learned Delon. I learned about, you know, getting the weight off that's one of the main things and stress is a huge thing in our lives that keep overweight. Yeah. And you know, the sleep pieces is so important, isn't it? It just I've I've heard that if we don't get a good night's sleep. It is it's easier for us to put weight on in the next day, we crave sugary foods. Right. Yep. So I know this show this goes by so fast. So what else did you learn there so many in? There's always a million best selling diet books and fitness crazes, and you know, all kinds of things and it's hard to to navigate through that. I'm a wonderful wonderful. Armchair dietitian. I'm a great armchair. You know, I love. I love I love picking up the latest book and reading about it. Whether it's it's going, no carbs or high fat or this or that or all raw food. So so what have you learned what are some of your takeaways that you're finding that that helps you and your husband, and that is also helping you members of our community that you work with. Okay. We did the fad diets. We I was his name. I would get you know, a magazine try to get the next best thing. Right. We've done a budget different type of system. But what I found is that learning about your optimal health how to get yourself to your Optima health and set of going. I need a diet. You want to you need to learn how to get your Optima house, and that the weight loss comes off not from a a very well known article care doctor from our program that we now coach. And we became certified health coaches from and there are several habit. We're learning how to have good habits in our life, and and learn how to get rid of the bad habit. So one is stress he'd to is cry. You know, like when we don't get enough sleep. The next day were craving the salt, the suite that kind of stuff we learned that water hydration is so important to keep our bodies because our our organization our biggest Oregon is our skin and not any lotion in the world is going to keep our body hydrated. It's actually your water intake and just for person to maintain their body to say hydrated. He need to drink between sixty four to eight ounces. And if somebody is looking to wanting to lose weight. They want to drink more more water. So like if I weighed two hundred pounds, then I need to drink a hundred houses of water a day for me to start losing the weight, but no less than sixty four ounces a day. So those things that we learned is we changed our habits. We changed an helped change our clients habits to looking about looking that we're gonna live one healthier life at a time and with a healthy habit. And that how we that's how we coach. That's how we teach our clients. And then we we introduce good foods back in good vegetables. And and the proper way of eating and. With that. You know, they don't you start healing the insides of their body. And when they start hit some people may be on medications, and they're noticing that they may not need those type of medications anymore. I don't ever suggest quite come off medications that is between them their their physician. My husband was fortunate. He was able to get off his medications. He was on a high blood high blood pressure medications over seventeen years because he worked for the sheriff's office as a as a place to active and now that he's retired. And he lost the way and his insights has changed. That's what we want to do is we want to reverse the clock inside is almost like giving the fat live new, and and you your but people actually. See they have more energy. They're able to do the activities that they've been wanting to do and getting around do those things. And their body actually strings. So it's been a it's it's been an amazing journey helping. And that's what we've been doing this just helping family and finds get their use. I call it. I call it. The out of us for me. Because you know, it, you know, it's take it's taken. I was on. Right medication is reversed that I were by Cy work because I had sat around my sideways. It's amazing that you can have fat around your organs, and when you reduce that fat that around your organs organs to work properly. That's why. Oh, I love I love that. And I love the positivity. I mean, I've never really been a big fan of the word diet bright. And and just the whole and taking few notes, I've been listening to just the optimal health, and I'm looking I'm bit a word too. So I look at that word optimal. And it looks like that's connected and related to the word optimism, and it's very positive in Iran. I find me the sounds great. So so for all our we're going to run out of time quickly. Unfortunately, so be well, we have time if there are people out there listening, Katie that would like to work with you. How do they learn more about your practice, and in in do you have a website or social where should they go? Well on Facebook. We have our band page out. There are business page Dale and Katie gross your v. You know on Facebook dot com. We also have our own blog. It's under Dale in Katie gross dot com. Okay. Okay. With Katie dot com. I mind my husband's over here reiterating me, and I'll. Did I say it wrong? We shouldn't have. Where he could have we should have had him jumping in this conversation too. But he's there waiting giving as his moral. He's there with you. That's nice as the. Yeah. He helped me he's he's my he's my sidekick, so he's wherever I go. He's with me. So he helps incursion me and help me out. So, you know, it's wonderful to have a husband that that right there. You know, I I've met women paying I didn't work with my husband. I could not were got be without my husband. I have been with him that that's another 'nother thing, and we you know him. On with this program with me and encouraged to me. I mean, he's the best thing in my life. Besides our kids, and our grandchildren. So it's it's been really awesome. That's awesome. So okay. A good night's sleep. Lots of water in a sweet loving spouse. That's a that's a good good. Good recipe for a nice life. And. Yeah. Or website again. It's Dale and Katie Greves as Katie dot com about that. I keep putting our last name in there. All right, but staling, Katie dot com. Wonderful, and we I'm just getting the two minute warning now. So maybe and just a sentence or K before we say goodbye, what would you like are primarily this is a women's show? So is primarily women fifty and older. So what would you what can we do at this time in our life, our health, and again, we're out of time just in the sentence or two what would you advise us? Believing knowing that you can make a change. It doesn't matter. How old we are that we can really 'cause I'll be fifty four before the end of the month. And we could we could really have a better outlook in with the rest of our lives. Healthy living healthy along the life one day at a time. So it's never too late to re make that change. Awesome. Perfect. Katie grabs eve Bennett delightful guest, and I thank you for joining us here today. What thank you, Debbie. I really appreciate that. You asked me to be on. This is my very first podcast. I'm pretty excited about it. So well, you were very brave and courageous to do this then so thank you. Did it? Good for you. All right. Well, we'll be in touch. I know we'll stay in touch. So so enjoy the rest of your day. All right. Thank you everyone out there. My name is Debbie. Petro. And you've been listening to creatively go you can visit my website Craig's go dot com to find a little more about this show. If you would like to perhaps be featured guest or listen to past episodes. We are on I tunes we are on iheartradio. Spotify spreaker in so many outlets. So wherever you like to listen to your your audio your music, and your podcast, you can subscribe and download and listen to us during your commute to work, or when you're cooking up your favorite meal in your kitchen, a right ladies until next time. Remember this? It's our time to shine. Let's make it. So and courageous league. Go. Factor that seems Casuals claiming tens of thousands of LGBT lives every year tobacco. Yes. 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Mon. 03/23 - PS5 will play most PS4 games, GameStops are closing, and Nintendo doesn't like Dreams

Gaming Ride Home

16:58 min | 9 months ago

Mon. 03/23 - PS5 will play most PS4 games, GameStops are closing, and Nintendo doesn't like Dreams

"Welcome to the gaming ride home podcast for Monday's March twenty third. I Kyle Hilliard. Here's a whole bunch of video game stuff that happened. Recently the playstation five will play more playstation four games than we thought. Game Stop is closing stores to fight and Cova nineteen spread. Intendo doesn't want dreams creators. Making Mario Gains. Twitch Streamers Casey Tron gets banned in a new halfpipe game is out today. Which is something. I never thought I would get to say out loud. The playstation five will play more playstation four games than we originally presumed when the playstation five was first revealed in wired's interview with Mark Cerny. It seemed the system was going to be fully backwards compatible with previous playstation generations that compatibility got scaled back as more was revealed about the system and then during what would have been Sony's playstation five G. D. C. Presentation last week. It said the playstation five would play the top one hundred playstation four games at launch and made no mention of playstation one two or three games on Friday. Sony updated its blog covering the playstation five tech details with some additional information. Here's what Sony wrote directly from the blog a quick update on backward compatibility with all the amazing games. Nps force catalogue. We've devoted significant efforts to enable our fans to play their favorites on PS five. We believe that the overwhelming majority of the four thousand plus. Ps Four titles will be playable on PS five. We're expecting backward compatible. Titles will run at a boosted frequency on. Ps Five so they can benefit from higher or more stable frame rates potentially higher resolutions were currently evaluating Games on a title by title basis to spot any issues that need adjustment from the original software developers in his presentation. Mark Cerny provided a snapshot into the top one hundred most played. Ps Four titles demonstrating. How well are backward? Compatibility efforts are going. We have already tested hundreds of titles and are preparing to test thousands more as we move toward launch. We will provide updates on backward compatibility along with much more. Ps Five News in the months ahead. Stay tuned so it seems the playstation five will be more backwards compatible than we thought after last week's presentation and it looks like it will also improve some playstation four games but that statement does seem to all but confirmed that the playstation five won't Games prior to the playstation for generation. At least not in the way where you can just pop the diskin. And you're all set like you'll be able to on xbox series x backwards. Compatibility is a tricky thing. I love when it exists and in the long term if you're a modest collector it's awesome to have something like the we you which means you don't have to hang onto a we the we you plays all we games without issue and it's great but I always do wonder how much time people spend playing backwards compatible games. It's a kind of thing that is nice to have initially when the console is brand new and there. Aren't that many games to play it. So you play previous JEN Games on your new console but in the long term how much our players really taking advantage of backwards compatibility it's a comforting feature. But is it a well used feature? I am definitely playing devil's advocate here and I want all systems to be backwards compatible to forever but from Sony Microsoft and even Nintendo's perspective is time and money better spent on features players will take more advantage of. I don't know the answer that question but I hope the playstation five plays all playstation four games and more in the same way the xbox series x will play all xbox one games and more game stop is closing its stores in response to the Kobe. Nineteen outbreak but will still process digital orders and offer curbside pickup. On Friday. I talked about how game stop was not closing. Its doors in the face of the cove in nineteen pandemic and referring to itself as essential retail. Gone so far as instructing its employees to give local authorities provided paperwork about how game stop is essential retail over the weekend. That game stop decided to make some changes in his closing down. Its storefronts while making an effort to compensate its employees on Friday night. I got a d. m. from at Mecca Rica on twitter. Who sent me a photo of their local game? Stop in California with a sign on the door that read. We are closing our stores in California. This closure will remain in effect until further notice as we obtain more information from the California governor's Office Jason Trier at Taco reported on the California closing writing to California Game Stop Employees told Taco that they've been told to use personal time or file for unemployment as they will not be paid while stores are shut down on Saturday. Game Stop issued a press release about its intention to close stores. The press release reads effective Sunday March. Twenty second twenty twenty for all locations not already closed in accordance with state and local orders. Game Stop will temporarily stop. Customer access to storefronts processing orders on digital only basis moving to curbside pickup at stores and e commerce delivery only this will allow the company to continue to serve customers who have purchased online at game. Stop Dot Com and the game stop APP and have requested a product. Pick up at their local store. There's also a quote in the press release from George Sherman the company's CEO that reads this is an unprecedented time. Each day brings new information about the covert nineteen pandemic our priority has been and continues to be on the well being of our employees customers and business partners we have been steadfast in our adherence to CDC guided safety and local government orders for retailers in each of our communities as millions of Americans looked at game stop to adjust to their new normal of increased time at home for work learning play. We have implemented practices to help ensure the safety and health of our employees customers and partners. We believe it is prudent to institute further safety protocols while meeting this increased demand through curbside pickup as such stores that remain in operation will provide only pick up at the door or delivered a home activities to further protect our employees and customers game. Stop also says it will quote pay. Employees hours have been eliminated for an additional two weeks and will reimburse one full month of employee benefit contributions. Closing the stores is the safe thing to do and paying the employees for two weeks is a good first step but I think it's safe to assume that this will all last longer than two weeks. It's a tough situation that all retailers are trying to figure out not just game stop. I happen to be focusing on game. Stop as this is a video game. Podcast it's just a difficult situation overall and I sympathize with a game stop. Employees were caught in the middle of it. I think higher up executives like. Hey George Sherman who was quoted as saying the well being of the employs or the top priority. Who makes at least one point one million dollars a year and received a one hundred and fifty thousand dollars signing bonus to join the company around this time last year according to SEC dot Gov should pay out of pocket to help his employees avoid unemployment. I'm not an economist though. So what do I know? Now that I've been doing the gaming ride home podcast for a few weeks I wanted to talk about. It security for gamers because though there's probably no one here who fall for a phishing email there are still plenty of ways for hackers to rip you off. We all know that common sense is your best defense. But you'll get the extra protection you need these days. With e Sets Special Gamer edition. He sets not thirty. Two gamer edition is rated as one of the lightest if not the lightest security solutions out there so you won't be seeing any slowdown pop ups and it catches everything even ransomware and back door tax that other vendors miss so if you're looking for solid protection against ransomware zero days and hackers that's built for. Gamers WON'T SLOW YOU DOWN. Get a free trial right now at try dot e set Dot com slash ride and get thirty percent off when you buy. That's try dot E. E. T. Dot com slash ride for your free trial dreams. Creators are getting hit with cease and desist notices from Nintendo. It looks like the grace period. Where fans could create content in dreams based on trademark content like games and models based on? Mario characters for example is coming to a close. The license and trademark owners are reaching out to dreams traders and requesting that they cease creating content based on existing properties. Go Nintendo is reporting on one particular Creator who received a request to stop creating Mario content in dreams quoting from Goan intendo dreams. Content Creator at peace of craft has shared a note stating that a big video game company reached out about his projects and asked him to stop wondering what the company is and say message at peace of craft states that all of his Mario Projects and dreams are now on hold to get even more specific at peace of craft said. He received an email from the legal and business affairs division of Sony Interactive Entertainment Europe which stated that Nintendo had objected to the use of Mario in his dreams project. Expect the same to happen for any other nintendo related. Ip that fans try to recreate and dreams so that was from go. Nintendo this was inevitable unsurprising and I honestly I don't fault any company for trying to prevent their intellectual property from being used in ways that they can't control from the moment dreams was announced. I think everyone has been curious about how this was to be handled and where the line was going to be drawn and it looks like Nintendo as they usually are pulling out the big black sharpie and drunk I on the one hand. The content people are creating based on properties. They love has been really fun and silly and I really like it but on the other hand dreams should be a place where creators are making their own unique stuff and the more original amazing content people are creating the better dreams will be is definitely a bummer for the creators in particular though who've spent lots of time and energy creating the stuff. It's a bummer. That they have to stop twitch. Streamer Casey tron suspended indefinitely over offensive. Kovic nineteen comments twitch stream or KC tron was recently indefinitely suspended by which for saying during a group chat that she would kiss someone with Kovic nineteen and that they would quote leave quarantine and try to spread it as much as possible because the world would be a better place without old and poor people. She then tweeted with a screen shot of an email from twitch. Alerting her of the ban. I've been indefinitely suspended because of an insensitive comment I made last week. I don't condone hatred towards any person and it was a poor reaction of my character. I'm just trying to take this all in right now. I ask my audience. Please remain calm and rational. And then she followed up saying obviously it was a joke but that doesn't excuse it it was in poor taste and my fault. I imagine twitches indefinite ban will turn into a much more definite ban and only lasts for a short period of time. But I do appreciate it taking action here. I recognize that Casey Tron was just trying to say something outlandish for reaction and probably wasn't fully thinking through what she was actually saying in the moment but twitches history of banning its users where appropriate has been questionable twitch band Dr disrespect a streamer who literally committed a crime by live streaming from public restroom. But he was banned only temporarily and he recently extended his exclusivity contract with twitch to continue streaming on the platform. Dr Disrespect is no doubt an entertaining. Streamer he's a lot of fun to watch but I feel like which just sort of conveniently forgot that he'd literally committed a crime live on his streaming channel. It's very complicated and weird but like I said I appreciate the action taken here when something undeniably offensive as said by one of its popular users. Here's what released today half life. Alex is out today for fifty nine ninety nine but the time of writing this. It is ten percent off but that might just be priced at a change by now. It is very exciting because it has valves first. Big Narrative focused single player action game since portal to in two thousand eleven. But the big and most exciting thing about it is even though it is not called Half Life Three. It has really affected the half life three joke economy in a big impactful way. People have basically wholesale stopped making half life three jokes and that makes me very happy. I watched all of Valve's official trailers and I watched Aegean's commentary video with the developers but I really haven't gone down any story Rabbit Holes. Ernie thing like reading people's theories or anything like that. I really want to go in as narrative blind as possible. I spent some time this weekend preparing for the release. I have an Oculus quest so I spent time making sure my headset was up to date in a my controllers were fully charged and that my oculus quest could use its oculus link capabilities which basically lets you use your oculus quest as an oculus rift to play. Vr Games which you can do through steam. It seemed like it was working so hopefully by the time. You're listening to this. I will be playing the game and I will be able to have some impressions tomorrow. I will also have some impressions for a pre releasing tomorrow too. I don't like ambiguously teasing things like this but it will be this podcasts. I chance to talk in depth about something before it releases which is exciting. And I want you to check back tomorrow Tiller what. I'm talking about also reviewing subscribed. Thank you also today going head to head with half life. Alex is a small released but the legend of heroes trails of cold. Steel three is out today for PC. It originally released October of last year for playstation four and it came to switch Japan a few days ago with plans to come to switch in North America some time between April and June. We'll see if that stays consistent considering everything but today you can play through the third game on P. C. This is one of those Jr series. That isn't as well known as like a persona or a final fantasy but is generally well regarded my friend. Kimberly Wallace at game. Informer was always on a mission to make more people aware of the series and would talk often about how it was very good but undeniably slept on. That's it for gaming news today. My wife and child are all in on animal crossing new horizons so even though I am not actively playing the game myself I have been fully exposed to its charm. The one thing that actually made me interested in checking it out is seeing the nook miles mechanic that basically gives you specific goals to complete. That makes me think that this animal crossing might be a little more appealing for me. I've got half life Alex I am creeping up on the end of Ori- and the will of the wisps but I might try and make some time to at least start in an crossing. Save game to see if it makes an impression if I can get the cartridge away from my kid which is a big ask at Mass. Delon responded to my request last week for folks to tell me why they love animal crossing and tell me what I missing out on and they sent a tweet to the at gaming ride home twitter account that said animal crossing is amazing. Because it's real life but cute so there you go. I had a few folks send me a correction at Bolci in at Ben Trick on twitter last week I talked about Sonic Fox signing with evil geniuses and an intro of the show I referred to Sonic Fox as him but Sonic Fox identifies as non binary and uses day then pronouns. I am aware of this and in the actual segment. I referred to them properly but I did make the mistake in. The show's intro. So I just wanted to acknowledge that if you have any corrections or just feedback in general. Feel free to send me tweets or Gams to Kyle M Hilliard on twitter or at gaming ride home or you can send an email to kyle it. Ride Home Dot Info and please. I know I asked his everyday. Please consider leaving review for the podcast wherever you listen to it. Once you do that I'll stop asking. I promise you can also check out my twitter Account Kyle impersonator where I am playing through Black Mesa right now you can find me on the mend. Mac Show for more long form video game discussion. I will talk to you more about video games tomorrow. I am going to go play. Some half-life Alex Right now which I am super excited about.

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The Dinosaur Toe

Bedtime Stories With Nennis And Douglas

14:11 min | 9 months ago

The Dinosaur Toe

"Take note story is cold the dough EMA soul raid boy. Don't Klis if you visit Horace Mawlana poll train station. You can catch a train into directions north to the scorelines or west to the pastures. But if you're very lucky and your friends with the engines and their drivers you can go to other places to warn small loin branches down to the harbor at another one goes to the airport. What it just so happened. The on this day as a mirror dylan stood waiting for a train. Opt to the SKYLINES THAT SHAMPOO. The engine choked into the plot. Form with a right of goods. Wagons Mirror had an dare fancied venture she said to Dylan. But we're all ready. Go away non adventure. He said to the skull elands remember. Yes but it takes a long time to get there and all. You've got a better dare winked a mirror and then turn shampoo as he settled in the platform with a big hase of white steam morning. A mirror puffed shampoo morning dylan. I mirror spoilt. I you off anywhere exciting shampoo. She Oh own leader harbor say shampoo. I got these wagons to want load onto a boat to Holland Moinuddin. If we tackle long set a May ever delon looked at her while we shave thinking they didn't want to go to the hopper. You're better ask molly driver said Shampoo. All you don't see why not set the driver so a mayor and Dylan hopped onto shampoos footplate and soon. They were headed out of the station towards fiscal Huns. But before too long the track branched off to the right and the whole you train slow down as the rails beneath them when now a bit older and a bit more wobbly looking out of the dirty front windows they could see that they were getting close dylan hot forgot how much he loved the harbor. It smells funny but good funny and there was always the score of seagulls overhead that soon cranes Ternan huge hunk of shit horns frank shampoo said Dylan and Amarah excitedly as history a halt and they claimed download onto solid ground was even more oxygen than normal hopping down the harbor that you were building a new pair for big ships dock hot and that men putting a big bucket down into the dirty water scooping out all the mold and Yok from the bottom so it got deeper and deeper and the big ships could sail a properly bake yellow crane dunked. The bucket pulled up a modern yoke twisted around and dropped it into a big smelly. Salafi poile twisted around and I don't to an Agai- and baubles huge huge bubbles erupted from the medal of the harbor while hot was strange. That crane driver pulled the bucket backup and then lowered it over there. So he of the pair again bloop bloop bloop bloop blow blow blow job there with a big bubbles again. How was the bucket going down into the water and mauled hair but big bubbles? Were coming up in the middle of the harbor over there. They needed some day tech tips that he needed to people who good enough at swimming and brave enough to go down into the darkness and have a look for themselves. Mirror was all ready putting off a diving costume. Come on Delon. She said you to Dylan put on his black diving cost Jim together. They climbed over the Soit of the pay here down into the water. They put the glass masks over their faces on put their heads under. Wow if it was murky at surface it was even dirtier as you got deeper. But soon they were at the bottom where the cranes bucket had been digging Dylan turned all his Rohit Roy Torch and they're the bottom. Sticking out of the mud was a grading scale mayor Doug around the scale with her hands on sore that it was part of something far bigger. It was the shape of a big thumb. But here Roy at the end was that big claw and it was rough. The bottom was to- a bake green to- mirror and Dylan swamp back to the surface and took off their mosques on snorkels. Then there's a big toe down there. They shouted bought vein though Walter in the harbor. Bay Gun Tie Swirl on phase and all the boats who was sold in an off load in their cargo Bay gun to rock and single stop squawking and then with a huge explosion of water. Join US sore as big as an office block rose up out of the harbor and your nd sold loudly that everyone covered their ears and the big yellow crane shook was Canadian. A set the creature. All I was just having a noise few million year NAP on so more. Start a toll mirror on Dylan who were both very bold and brave stepped forward all him. Sorry to have woken. You said a mirror but I have to admit it was awesome. But we didn't know it was your toll in fact we didn't know you were down there at all. We've we've not been here as long as you. A sore looked puzzled. Put everyone around. The harbour looked either terrify. Talk just go but a mirror knew the right thing to do when you meet someone. New Volley name is a mirror. She said face is my friend Dylan. She held out her hand properly. That sore sat down in the Water. Audience leaned legs both feet sticking up out of the water and scratched his head with one of the close on the end of his law firms and then he reached out to know he's to me ear or EAM. Leonard Horrid Cain showed a harbourmaster and all of a sudden sirens begun to Worl- walks older. He's asked Leonard the join a sore oil wait now ago. Need an alarm. A stock hurricane alert sank. Dylan it means storms coming and all the ships have to return to the safety of the harbor. It's too late. Show a harbor master. That's storms coming into quick leap and other and Tro are out there on their boat. Pa tro cried a mirror. But they'll be whipped up by this storm of yours sat word and they have a little grain boat said Dylan at all never A Hurricane Leonard lifted himself up on with the big ace green legs. You've ever seen wade out of the hopper towards the sea or Al. A didn't even have to swim. He was so big that say only k. him up hayes middle. Hey Sore the block clouds moving and he felt though wind against his face then he sore honor and Pietro's little boat. Aleksei were terrified to see a monster coming awards them and even more terrified when he picked up their entire boat a one hand but they were relieved when two minutes later they were put gently down in the middle of the com- harbor than heard had been snooze in for so many millions of years that he didn't detest sleep for a few million more and so from that day forth he lived in the harbor and became friends. Friends ship captains from all over the world everyone in every port new about Leonard the dinosaur who saved shapes and they couldn't wait until they had a delivery to make a Horse Mar poll so they could visit him on name. Need a new pair. Dugout or Al. They didn't need a crane and a bucket at Leonard would do it with one scoop of his hand and when a big note of cargo who needed to be picked up promise ship and put down onto the dog. Well Leonard picked it all up on a rope with one little chlor and when ever he want it. I know he's Friendly Conversation Mirror as Dylan. What Oscar Shampoo the engine to take them down to the harbour where there was a brand new station built volley next to Leonard's round new comfy bed no Remember you can find more nissen Douglas on Youtube instagram and spotify go.

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Episode 59: We Want Boston

The Short Porch

38:12 min | 2 years ago

Episode 59: We Want Boston

"Start spreading the new. Then today. I want to. Part of it, new Yar new Yar the what is up. What is happening? Welcome back to another dish of the short. I'm your host hubs alongside the other side of the laptop. It is one. Oh, nine. In the morning on a Thursday morning. I'm your technically Thursday. Yes, yes, there's a morning now. I'm heroes ups. Tommy smokes. What's happening baby? What is going on? Feeling good feeling a we. We said yesterday or whenever it was that we didn't have a depressed podcast. They we didn't wanna have a podcast where there was no Yankee baseball ahead of us. We'll guess what? Not only do we have key baseball. We have inky Red Sox playoff baseball, which is the premier brand of baseball. It is all you want. It's all you need. We've been striving. We've been, we've been starving for this since two thousand four, and we finally got it. I, I can't fucking sorry. It's crazy. Like, oh, four sounds law like law. I knew it was, oh four. Odyssey sounds long ago, but I thought of it to myself in a different way. He's having played the Red Sox in the playoffs since they lost the thrill that. I've thought of it as four, but I haven't thought of it like that adds a different angles to it. I don't know. This is a, this is our redemption time. This is me, Jared said after the game that you know, you can throw out history books it everything, throw out what they've done in the last fifteen years throughout. We've done in our century, plus it is. It is just knew these teams are all young are new faces. This is the new era of Yankees and Red Sox. Baseball and finally were on a collision course the play each other. We almost got it last year. The SOX fell Felli Astros, but here we are. I mean, we could not let me, let's let's not talk a Boston yet was eight, let's say there for the end. But I mean, you could not have scripted a better game near gangs like this is exactly how we thought it was going out. If the Yankees were going to win. It had to go this way it had to go and had to start will be Severino in that motherfucker started, breathing fire. I mean, you could not. I mean when that first inning almost collapsed the stadium, it was so electric, his fastball his, it was all there. He was blowing. One new early on that he had. You can tell early on that he had, he was so let them that's why he was the star. That's why I think it made sense is you know, when seventies got it, sevi- God, you could tell early on. He was locked in. He was out for redemption Severino rises as as summer saying on the internet. Coming back from the wildcard start last year, the best second half. It was a great start. He gave exactly what the doctor ordered. I don't love starting for the fifth inning by Boone mattering because Delon was awesome any any. But I typically don't like bring Delon into a jam. I'd rather him work himself into a job. That makes any sense, but it worked out. He can't complain Severino we look people are gonna say also four and a standing ovation. You know, suck for Florida's people out innings. It's it's exactly what was needed. He said post game, we knew what four or five innings could not have asteroid anything or. Yeah, he. Was unbelievable at love. The emotion pouring out of him when he got the struts and the fourth inning. I've never seen him like that. I mean he the still images that are on Twitter of that are unbelievable. He, he rose the Cajun shadow to me for an electric hype video. I think I answered I answer the the haters of the first one. Everyone seemed like the second one and gone listener actor though. Right? Yeah, he likes retweets maybe, but it was more positive sweared. I thought this one was better. I thought it was too. I mean, you know, you living, you learn you you. It was the first time I did a hype. So now it's the second time that I was able to fuck around Smalley make things louder, but it was. I'm a man that man that man needed to set the tone in he did. And that brought a baron brought up. Sorry that we didn't really think about this. But the Oakland a.'s started an Australian relief pitcher who had never won a baseball game before and had a high for Yere in a winner. Go home situation that happ who who was designated for assignment on June first and like, no, go talk to us. I mean, we kinda talked about it yesterday. We were looking Ziaur as in the fours, lean Hendrix, never scared. He never scared me. I don't care that he opened. Also, this is quick aside. I don't understand why like baseball media, people fig. It's important. To note opener. Verse starters, if they don't mean the same. Exactly. Like is that starting game? He's opening the game. It's the same thing. It's literally the same. Exactly. Yeah, I starting it. He's opening. It doesn't matter. I think opening only goes when you have a starter coming in. Second in the second inning, like with the rays would were doing with like, fuck out Fara. I guess it was far they're doing it where like you had you guys guy the first inning, and then a star came in the second through sixth inning, second through fifth inning like that, that's an open. This is not an opener when you're going full bullpen the whole game you're starting starting. I mean, still like even in the scenario, timeout, that's the guys starting. The was weird. It's weird. The semantics argument in baseball media, but whatever, Liam, Hendriks, starter opener reliever, whatever you wanna call him. He was overmatched Byron judge. Well, first mccutchen works. Good walk. We, it's all this guy fucking does is great. At bats gets on base all you need Valeo at our good fielder mccutchen what an addition, he was overlooked. I mean, people thought, oh, cool. He'll just like, you know, he'll be better than fucking Shane. Robinson, he was, could you imagine like imagine comparing those people right now, but so Inc it's on and judge wastes no time and sends a ball. So I mean, the moment he may contact. I still haven't really eaten all day. Like unlike unhealthily like hungry right now. I'm gonna get McDonalds at some point after this. But when he made contact blocked out and I think my heart stopped it was the ball just kept going. And then once you the best feelings of judge homerun and you see the leftfielder take one step and he's like, no, that's not coming back. We're not even gonna ways unless it was the stadium collapsed. I'm shocked the third deck in just collapse. It was unbelievable what a moment. Unbelievable reminded me so much of. Of it was a very similar start offense of Lee to last season. I mean, obviously the aren't down three, nothing about him the first time. But last year Gardner start off with a walk. It ended up being three run home run, but you know, two run home run. I mean, it was an, you know, the place or up. It was like deja vu all over again. It wasn't to come back but still start off with a walk, and then a big clutch home run by when your guys. It was also you could tell right away that, well, I mean, obviously, were that you could tell the stadium was alive from the gecko and that just gave them something even more to cheer about. Yeah. I mean, you gotta yet. That was unbelievable. You had to start that way you had. They could not have fallen behind in this game. They had to get get ahead because you know how good they ended up open should be, at least it wasn't really that good at all. This whole in was terrible, but Trevino actually comes in Trevino. Maybe he should have just started because he was very, very, very good. He, he gave me he got me nervous Torino because you know, you start to look and it's like. Oh, are bats all of a sudden last thing, one full minute, like all three guys in. It's like the scores still to nothing here, like, fuck yet. We gotta get in my head. I was like, five. You can get five runs games over and they were stuck onto a long time like, oh my God, like several inches one bed in, and you know, they, they end up sending him out there for the fifth, which I, I was a little surprised that thought the plan was gonna be said at four. They kept him out there for the fifth and the you have della warming up Bill. I seven gets out of the fourth and yet del warming up that scared me. Bring him in that one call that I, I'm sure everything looks like a strike a rare. Everything looks like a ball depending on pretty good gate, but there that one call when they're, it was a one to pitch an Severino was on the mound of the fourth inning ended up being a walk. It was when there was I or they're two runners on front, remember what her was pull it up, but. It was right on the outside corner of the plate and they called it a ball. Many ended up walking him. I was fuming that was so clearly a strike. Yeah, it seemed like a few pitches that were were strike three and you just, I mean, don't just wasn't giving the call one. He walked off the mound. Basically he struck out whatever gets out of work. The Laura that, right? Yeah. Laureano Helda player. I that scared me. He does everything. He's he's built like he, he's just a threat at all all points of the game. But to he, it's out of the fourth. He comes out for the fifth immediately gives up to base runners that's in for savvy eighty seven pitches. Only two hits walked for. So you look back in. That's where leeann that's that's what beat him. But the end of the day he gave us everything we needed. They bring in Delon in the fifth which would choose men on. I was like, what the hell Buni what are we doing here with men on base like this is a disaster waiting to happen. Delon does he gets to week, fly balls the they don't advanced the runners at all. And then he strikes out Chris Davis and his, let's roar it was unbelievable. Comes out again for the six. I didn't. I was like, what do we do? This is the beginning season over again, like no, I like that. I like to that because you're going, he was so good in the fifth, and you're going batter by that more so than ending by fair. So. Renzo if he gives up a double Ori walks out, he he can come right out. So I, I didn't mind that you want you wanna try to squeeze many outs out of ever. Got you. Got as possible. Yeah, for sure. But he comes out the six and he was unbelievable. I mean, he was so dominant. I dubbed it the six most important outs of his entire career, like in one in one setting like like he was his biggest out for he's come from last year is crazy. It's crazy, and the honest like we didn't have much faith in him. I coming into this post-season like he was a little shaky. I blaming you because I, I was about the put him at the top of my trust tree in the bullpen yadda. And then you've talked me off of it. I I'm putting down his back at the top of drudge. Okay. Zack has fallen to six by the way. So I'm done almost a complete reversal. We'll get to Britain more, but we'll get rid is back up to number one. He was so fucking good. Those are the best biggest six hours career. I mean, yet you, like you said after last year being just so rendered completely useless. And just that that was unbelievable. You could almost give him the MVP right after Severino in this game, though. Six outs were so massive, bridging the game too. The wrestlers guys and in the bottom six judge leads off the double which I saw a screen shot of immediately bounces foul. It's double it. The the spin on the ball was and he ends up at second Hicks, Amelie singles in home place. That's the third I might head. I was like, let's fucking go. That was the run we needed. Now I can get, you know, three is so much different than to, you know, it's only one run, but that is such a big difference with the lead and then Giancarlo walks by the way them pitching for Narodni in in this type of game. I'm not eat eighty five. I love. What are you doing? Bullpen game scared me. But the good part of it is we thought about how like Trevino was very good, but it's also then. All right. Well, he's gonna come out. It's not like a dominant starter where you're just like, Wilber does not going to touch this guy for seven innings. You knew even when they weren't hitting Trevino's. All right. Well, we'll get him out like an inning or so. So. That was nice about that effort Ananta. We said it yesterday for Nando Rodney and familia feed me all the bullpen games or those guys are all Fernando or a knee is eight years old. He never ever going to be a guy that scares me and they took advantage of almost immediately five pitchers. I mean, I think that even out my expectations and it just never feel confident with that kind of manage camping, still pitching. He's the does the Larra thing. He's a fucking loser. They they dismantled him quickly. He got out of game, they blowing in, they bring in their their their golden arm. Blake trying point seven, eight year entering this game, you know, hadn't given up multi run since April of twenty seventeen at good. This guy's been, but you know what? He never faced a bit moment as he did not game his. I look back his nationals. When he's the nationals he struggled will. The nationals are big, you know, that's that's a big market. He never pitch. Well, they're when during the postseason e crumbled in. Oakland, you're not facing these big games like, he's just not. You know, he just completely collapsed. Avoid comes up with two men on works unbelievable. He he was fighting of so many pitches trying to such tricky at that. I mean the, it's just he's so good. Every pitchy throws is, is deadly and voice fighting off once again, ninth pitcher, the bat, but a hanging slider absolutely drills into right field thought it was gone off the bat soda. He puts up his finger in the air today. What I said, oh, yes, so did. Yeah. He thought all go to Mars. It does just get out of reach those Scotty in right and bounce crack caroms off both runners score hands. Third, the stadium was just up for grabs. It was unbelievable, unbelievable moment. Fucking Luke void of all people in the world. Come through that guy, holy shit. He's unbelievable. I mean the if you didn't know Louis voi- go into this game, you know him. Now guys, this dangerous person. He's a dangerous human being with the baseball bat, I will say this. This, if that ball was caught and you just had that visual film pointing you just pack up your bags, they would have lost that game. They were somehow lost that game. That would have been the turning point and that everyone would have pointed back to that image of him. I was shocked that he put the fan. I think it was so gone off the bat. I thought it was like as bad as this could be short porch home run. Right? And I wasn't so confident where I was gonna put my finger up. I ended up working out and awesome triple, but that was a cocky movement at him chugging around the bases on the south fly was great too. He's he's just so likable in the post game as washing on, yes, the post game and he was just basic things like I love this team and said, I don't know how long will be playing baseball, like especially for guy like him who knows when this little journey they started playing. I'm here having fun. I'm gonna enjoy it as long as last year as the best mentality in the world is an awesome guy as telling Jaren you could not craft a bigger. Like like, not he's not a superstar, but like like, Aaron, judge. I'm sure he knows what barstool is, but he's so measured in everything he does in very jeeter. Ask that you know him. It's racking with us. We'll never probably happen and then you have the Magellan hard. Labor tour is definitely just have no idea what Parcells forces in there to preserve their own in Severino's. But like you know, the Red Sox have a ton of stories like that whole team is sparsely guys, and it's like God crafted Luke Voight like into a less because he's he's a big story and he so lovable and he just fucking mashes the baseball. And I just love every second of him. Like I think every day for Luke void of these days, he is unbelievable. Love that guy. It was a humongous, broke. The game open game ended on that. I mean, they weren't coming back from that. Actually when he's outward, does she when he scored the six? I, the three was big, but the the foreign five, the new the had to get those runs across. He came up big when when they needed him the most. I mean, it's been unbelievable. I, it's so did Greg bird really boot in the game? Oh, yeah. Thunder sleeps him and Sonny. Booed. It was so five off that. Oh, fucking funny. I think he did laugh. Yeah, I think he actually did left. I saw on the screen. Shadow to the short porch guys real quick. So many of you out there tonight. It was like overwhelming. How many there were stunned you guys are awesome. So many void shirt sport shirts on the big screen. It was great at. I hope you buy shirt. This guy. It's a, it's a great shirt. He's a great guy should definitely fucking by a great shirt, but the short porch people out there. I love you guys are awesome. Like it was very humbling to see that many reports guys coming on. Many were out there. I, I mean, it's tough to gauge a number like so many people don't love that. Like, you know, came up and said something or whatever. I mean upwards of seventy five hundred people. Oh yeah. Like and like to be honest, like I didn't really. I didn't tweet out where I was or anything they just kind of they found us in it was those guys are awesome. I love every second of that and they're just like very, very down there. People and just humbling is like, you know, credits Yankees podcast. Than it's, I mean, you know the biggest thing in the world, but if it makes one person's day, like if it makes one person's, that's all I care about. And like there was a guy. Don't remember. His name came up to me. Dude is going Afghantistan in two weeks and all he did it say like, do I approach? I love that shit. Like, you know, keep doing. You are also is like that's great. Is always I can make that guys anymore. Though the I found out his buddy, I'm I might be able to find it, but he's he's, it was. It was very, very cool. I will say. No. So after that trying to, I'm trying to go back. John Carlos Baldwin moon. I mean, the that ball couldn't have been hit further. I was towering thought it was foul like live radio, adding new guy, great angle the whole time because we were sitting behind the dugout third level, like four throw a perfect angle for that thought is gone the whole way. But yes, that was awesome. So I guess we're going to Britain, Britain, Britain, gaming, anxiety. I mean, it made me think mistake wasn't over. You know, thought it was. He's I dunno where we, we put him in the trusty on the flip side, the shop enough for me. Yeah. On the flip side, Chapman's fastball came back. He was throwing a hundred miles an hour. That was awesome. Did not see that coming? I, it was just a. It was all hands that all hands on deck night. And now. We got j probably on Friday and that's exactly. I mean rest the Chevy green. Yeah. I mean, we'll be finding full off. It's just like, here we go like it's bad. It's time to go to war. Dave day port hates me so much right now. I was going to save that for like a, so he's just wanna get you have anything else you wanna older like before we go into like red sauce, like what was like being they were Dallas, Jared, our right Dallas is a great guy. But I mean, he really have a moment to even say anything like it was. This was about as stress-free of a playoff wing as it will get. You know in the fourth inning when it was whenever it was two, nothing. It's a little scary because it's so easy to come back to nothing, especially when the Pacers juiston the fourth and then a little bit with Britain. But for the most part for a playoff game, you cannot ask for a more comfortable with? No. And honestly, I kept saying all day and people gave me score predictions and I hate scorpions, because like what's the point. But I said seven, three hold items, seven two. So yeah. And if you ask me, I think I, I mean, I don't remember exactly what I said on this podcast last episode, but if you ask me like how we win this game at score quick sevi- gonna pitch. Well, exactly how you could script that is exactly how it was stunning. I couldn't believe how bad as bullpen was. And then when you really look back, it's like, well, it's really just training and then three really good, and it's like our who else is lame Hendrix are Dirani shore. He's we said this yesterday, rhinos there nuts, Mike. Oh. All right. I wanna give to credits here. Gary Sanchez was great on the actually blah locked few really top pitches. I thought I was really scared when Dan came in for that fifth inning, which human on he's wild is to Manatt. I thought a wild pitch could've been coming or about, you know, abounds or getting away to make it second third, and then a single, you know, Buchan ties the baseball game, but or yet ties baseball game at point. But no, Gary was great, made a good block and that's in that series of events. He wasn't good at the plate. Find Graham dub plate sure whatever, but we needed him to catch the ball and he called, I will say that would almost made me more mad at past Gary. 'cause it's like, all right. When when it really matters, he can lock in give it his all and be a good defensive catcher. And it makes me think that you know is troubles in the past or just sort of lax days. Ical, not totally caring, but when he locks any do it. So. So Gareth from intensity, every name, Saint credit. I think our boot managed to game. I didn't leaving Severino in for the fifth, but that was pretty much the only thing I disagreed. I it made sense to take on our area there in the six just because it was basically the the top of the order. I think drudge was probably judge was do up in the bottom of six. So you're looking at probably only one more at bat friend who are in at that point. I think for ratings of, I've never never this four innings Verena defensively more important than that one plate appearance for an too harsh. So I like that move and obviously he made it a worth it with done. Ably will catch. Yeah, I knew when an Har had come up for his last at bat, I told the guys like this this. This is his last at bat less last. I because they're taking off for the initial throw were void had come off the bag to make the tag. Then he bounced when the void. This is no need for that with the lead at. I thought. Bring a Walker, I didn't know hedge virus income in, but I mean that catch was almost like he took a good a missile up to the moon to. I mean, I was unbe you can make there've been nicer place at third by Machado for sure, but in terms of catches, you won't see you really won't see a better cash. That was unbelievable how he got that ball. I honestly made a similar catch in like fifth or sixth grade. I was I was at second base in unbelievable leaping catch on a line drive. I got, I got. So it was unbelievable Boyd reminded me of that anyway. Oh, wow. Someone just posted. That's awesome. They on the Jumbotron they had a ton of Luke void shirts and someone just posts on Twitter. That's fucking awesome. It's just like five people in which it's awesome retreated. Yeah, just retweeted it. But yeah, I mean, now we're on the Boston. I mean, I think that's what else do we miss anything with this game as top the bottom really good thought the guy who look worse than probably labor. Those vary overmatched the Swain. I think he was just excited nervous, excited. I mean, I'm not taking anything out of it. Just making a mental note. Yeah, but Gary Boone was really good too, as you said, Boone. Perfect. I mean, I didn't agree with giving credit for starting Severino. I feel not totally buying it, but he pre-game did make it seem like it was all you know, his decision. So credit credit to him. I did run into a stat today main Jared that we were doing little research. The as at ninety five miles an hour plus on the year where the third worst batting average in ofensive Tagore's across the board in baseball and Severino highest average law city. So that's, that's what came into that was the analytical 's all doing their their magic. And that was why Severino was given the ball because they hit these guys. They. I mean, you know, they didn't hit hap but has a better road pitcher. But when you factor in the home in Severna being way better home pitcher and how his loss is in how he is our ase in the whole mentality thing of just being the big dog and let him eat. It worked up. So now we are onto Boston and I can't fucking wait. It's going to be unbelievable undoing getting on train late Thursday night on a get their whole day Friday. And then we're Jared, Jared, going like six AM like today. And then I'm I have a whole workday. I'm gonna host starting with KFC. And then and then I'm gonna get on train. I'll be there Friday, Saturday. We'll be both games. It's gonna be wild. I think there's a section ten live show at a bar on Saturday during the day that I'm gonna be a guest on for one of they're gonna do like two hours and rotate guests on every one of them. The booze. I'm going to get at that place in Boston are majors like beat up. It's those boots are going to be. I'm going to savor, I'm gonna love that shit. I am. I am Dave port. I made me an enemy of Boston tonight. I mean, he's, he just gets me for reasons those reasons off off the website on, but for content and not whatever. But he does not like me, but, hey, at least he Tagme tweet. I guess he could've not done that. That would have been crew. Apparently. I don't know if you saw the Instagram story calls, he was least favorite borstal employees. Yeah. Sucker tweet. Yeah, I saw I saw the Instagram. Yeah, I did. There's so much good content coming out of of this. I mean, you know, there's evolve evolved things people say where you know Dave made a deal with the devil and all the good fortune. The parcels have Boston sports, patriots winning Celtics, Red Sox while they have. We've had there's no Yankee Red Sox series since Barcelo has been like even close to what we know. Four was still just a newspaper. So now it's on thing that has not happened in the barstool, Aaron tonky fans plenty red sock fan. That's going to be be hostile. Yeah, and not to my own horn here, but I think I've done a pretty good job of building the Yankees story life fan base since I've got like I feel like it was almost like non existent like like it just, you know, we didn't have a lot of shirts or anything. Not that we have a lot right now, but I just think there's a lot more Yankee stories, early known at this point like they made, there's they're proud to be like Nike school is. It was mainly a Boston website, and I'm just, I'm. You know it. Now we go to war like this is we built this up for two years. You know, when I first came as company was a fucking intern, but I always wanted to be Yankee guy and lead this charge. I'm so happy to be doing it and and you you and Frankie. Let's fuck and go to war. I'm I'm so ready. We had five game series. They haven't announced the starter for for for Friday, but can't imagine it's Tanaka now it's gonna be cell happe- csar yet it's gonna be sale hap, and then I think maybe call crazy, but I think Sisi might get that game to start. I, I would agree. I picked what I wouldn't Austin. I don't think you pitch Tanaka in Boston. I agree. I'm doing knock it for game three than you go severing back for foreign half for five. Yes, I think perfect. It's perfect rotation. They have set up right now. That's what I would do. I want to knock at home. I see. I'd rather see. See, I guess on the rhyming didn't have a good start at Fenway during the sweep in August at all. But I, I mean, obviously he's over Lance land in eat, you know, you trust him in that could be more of a game reminder bullpen. Help get three or four at Assisi. But yeah, I'm going hap-. CC Tanaka Severino. Sorry. Yeah, yeah, we we agree. Sorry, nature's asked me if I can sleep on his couch, but I gotta go back home Boston as I gotta go pack for Boston, which sucks. He asked you if you could sleep on his couch, he's, he's if you don't wanna take the bus home, you can sleep union crash on my couch. Offer needs been very friendly. Me like EBay to tell. So it's like EBay time, like he issues. Like shelves, can you sleep on my couch, please? Please? Thank you. No favorite. Please, amid begging view this man. I'm, I'm just so relieved like the all that stress alluding up for once I pitch happened, I was like linked God, but the stressing upset got, I will say, hey, I'll say this. I gave shit to getting the Yankee Stadium. I got in ten minutes. It was. It was a walk in the park. They chose block. Yeah, or I just haven't really been using gate eight enough gate. I just walked right in there was lines relegate was just a walk in the park. Got an early. I was a lot of sitting around, you know, that's when like short porch people showed up in that was cool, but just a long grueling day. I mean, hey, I've not that Bowie Dallas braiding. He's a good sport Dow's handle. Well, he's a very dues. I don't think you're capable of bullying, Dallas Britain. No, nothing. A lot of people are capable of blinked. Our springs Centric millionaire former baseball player, I know, but I did as best. I could. The Yankee certainly helped out as didn't do him. Do many favors. It was sorry, this just sound tired. I have not. Actually. I've tried to eat things all day. Agai literally bought lunch in had one bite him. I t's burger and then I, I bought the whole chicken tub thing at Yankee Stadium had maybe half of a chicken thing. I just like was unable was served the digest food today. I just couldn't do it so many at some fucking McDonalds, way home and just eat my face off. I can't wait. Do we miss anything? I'm so fucking tired, but I don't. LA, I'm tired too. I gotta get. So I know. So next show our next show will. So I'm in ongoing rough from rowdy, Kentucky to I'm bottle. I am. It sucks. I'm gonna. I'm gonna be like basically on the ring, like doing Instagram stories in tweets, knowing during game one, I'll try to be following still, but yes, sucks. But but buyer often rowdy and have it on Bairo Ferrari have on your laptop as you watch the game undergrad do little multi-screen thing that's hold twenty teen multiple screens Avella, but you by referei I can't actually think of a better. I don't think Friday night man. Just invite your boys over via boys. Overwatch green one. What is it to screen action? Yeah, volleyball's her Buchan by thirties, go fucking hammered, watching grad socks, battle it out. And watch refer- Atty and then do the same thing on Saturday with Yankees, Red Sox. And then you've got fucking Conor McGregor fighting what fucking Saturday. Oli show what a weekend, what a weekend sports. Oh my God, it's can be unbelievable. I can't. So they are next up. So probably will be, I would guess, do you want to night recorded Sutton? We're not gonna let our core during the McGregor fight going to be out in Boston. Let's to court Sunday in have it out neither Sunday night or Monday morning. We'll record sometimes on. They'll be out. It'll be on Sunday, will you know? And you'll be listen on their whatever. Yeah, that's it. That's what can game. That's awesome. So happy, this, Madge miserable. Let's get on a bus right now to in the morning and after loss on God. God, I can't wait to wake up in the morning and just tweet Boston. I cannot fucking to tweet that this is what the porn on to make the Anki are the scrappy on deduct. All the pressure is on Boston. The hundred eight went team, highest payroll in baseball. We know Boston. They love to buy their World Series, the keys, the homegrown scrappy Cinderella. I said they're going to try to knock off label Chicago's the the greatest sports story of the keys. There's the little engine that could the big bad Red Sox opening a. He's just chug chug chug of the little engine that could just David trying to take down Goliath. Let's good luck boys. Wait, we got, we got a giant to slay. Your Kosovo people off of that, and I tell you. And saw you do that? Probably this only people by the way. Do you can't talk about the payrolls, a Yankee fan. Number one pair on Boston fucking talking about you still paying Kara Crawford fucking morons. We literally went under the luxury tax this year. We like didn't pay any. We're frugal. We're basically small market team. Yeah, we're pretty much like the race now, basically, dislike nickel and diming. Yeah. We absorb the as Billy bean to kill himself. Now Billy being. I mean, nobody Billy being the ninety, seven wins will he'll hang that they'll hang has had all that for a while I read that. He told his players like it's a good thing. We're playing the Anki because that's really close than eager to the Boston already told. That's what they said. An MLB radio today. As a way to get a motivator it ever. Yeah, it was looking ahead. Maybe it should look ahead fucking juggernaut team front you? Yeah, brought this lineup when it's fully healthy like tonight is terrifying. Like I said, there is no breaks of just there's just nothing and like tonight and hardened do anything labored and do anything. Who else d- didn't do anything, and they just shocks district of the walk. I mean, which was a big walk in retrospect to them hit. Yeah. I mean, there were plenty of people Garrett and do anything, and they still put up a it. Were they were there? They dominated offensively. Man. Awesome. Thanks for listening guys. Really appreciate it. If you're at the stadium real quick show, you should have video tweeden of the guy sweeping sings. We Carolina's fuck Boston, got, I mean that video needs to go viral that guys, that guy looked so angry. That guy was hating us. He looks like is entire family, which was murdered and like sweet Caroline was playing during it, but all right. Sorry, if I don't have come out sounding like if we're lagging, you're not. I mean recording. I'm running the -partment take studios right now. So I don't know how the wifi is anything's place stinks, but not the parliament takes you just this office. The wife is so shaky but bear with us will be back. So I think Sunday, let's hope for split it worse. We split you go back the anti stadium, just physical series Berkshire. By the way I'm confident. I'm confident Ke's Yuki and four Yankees in four. I think we're on the same page there. I don't know what game we're gonna if we don't not let us still do not let us when on Friday. Do not let that happen though you that right now, confident on good. What, what game, what a ride would a team, Luke void? I love you will see. I want. City that never sleeps. Number one. A little time. Star. It's up to you.

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The Future of the Internet, with John Roese, the Global CTO of Products and Operations at Dell Technologies

IT Visionaries

34:06 min | 10 months ago

The Future of the Internet, with John Roese, the Global CTO of Products and Operations at Dell Technologies

"John roos is the global chief technology officer of Products Nixon operations at Dell technologies and. He's helping guide the company on its journey as one of the largest and most influential in the tech world from hyper connectivity to five G. to computing impugning the edge. John says that Dell Technologies has had a hand in it all and each of those innovations will eventually change the internet and the world as a whole he explains all all of that and more on this episode. It visionaries is created by the team at Michigan Dot Org and brought to you by the salesforce customer three sixty platform the number one cloud platform for digital transformation of every experience build connected experience empower every the employees and deliver continuous innovation with a customer. At the center of everything you do learn more at salesforce dot com slash platform welcome to another episode of it. Visionaries I mean phase on chief continents are here mission dot Org and we have on the other line John. What's going on too much as usual? Busy as usual. Indeed will you have been traveling all over the world talking about amazing things amazing technologies and today Rachi and talk a little bit about yourself. So how did you get started in technology Yeah I I I have Let's call a bit on the technical side since birth. I think you know I was one of those people that had every computer pre x eighty six. You can imagine I still have to UK pros in my basement which are sepia machines for the real geeks out there but the bottom line. Is You know when I went to university kind of flipped. A coin between the law and engineering literally flipped a coin and sometimes I joked that I lost and it landed on engine off I went in. I started at a company called cable tron systems in the Late nineteen eighties early. Nineteen nineties was growing at turned out to be kind of fifty percent of the lear. One layer two networking world and progress there all the way to the CTO PTO And then just continued on that journey. I don't took a cable tron into a different phase with terrorists and then Left there after he took private went over and became the CTO broadcom's the semiconductor. Spanish then went from there over to Canada to be the CTO and head of our for Nortel in Canada oh just telecom optical unified communications. Then what night moved on from. There went over to run advanced technology. For the largest Chinese Technology Company in the world one the news quite a bit alcohol Wa and then the one that was minding my own business in California working for wow way and EMC called me up and said Hey. We're looking to do a big shuffle and we need a new. CTO Are you interested. That sounds fun. I remember telling Joe Tucci that the reason I'm interested as I predicted nece at eight years ago that we would end up right right in the middle of a hurricane company was likely to be in the middle of the action. Turns out ride was if I was right at that time and then about four years ago we announced a combination of Delon. EMC and we put the two companies. Together I lead the technology integration. The two and Now here we are as technologies the largest infrastructure structure. It provider in the world. Some journey. Yeah you know when people think of Del obviously with such strong consumer brand And you know laptops all over the world Hardware all over the world. This Dell Technologies is really the center for Innovation and Has All of these amazing things going on. I'm curious like what's the scope of your role as global. CTO adult technologies. What what are you all working on the year excited about? Yeah sometimes joke that my job is to make sure technologies doesn't drive off a cliff because we missed technology inflection. You know a lot of roles I'm the chairman of the cloud foundry foundation responsible for the overarching technology activity in terms of the especially the longer term advanced technology work But but but but at the bottom line it's liberal the CTO and a very large company like this is is making sure that our strategies activities are insights. All the way to Michael are are aware of what's coming next. This is a this thing about technology industry you have to keep moving. Standing still is a bad thing effect. It's a death sentence in most is for most companies We understand that but when you're in motion Moving without let's call it a radar to understand what's coming at you and and to be able to assess and understand how to navigate. The technology or system is incredibly dangerous spots of examples. Where people you know got enamored with technology bet on it and it turned turned out to be the wrong one? And if you're a small company I guess you can recover Or maybe you can't but with a company of our scale we have to do that across a massive set of technologies back today. My my my remit is really helping us develop strategies to navigate everything from edge to five G. TO A. I the the the next generation of cloud environments to the data ecosystem. There's just a huge surface area of emerging technology challenges coming at US and my job using a combination of open innovation traditional research. Collaboration and Industry Coordination with our businesses is to make sure that we had in the right direction as we navigate. All of these interesting interesting L.. Let's call it inflections. That are coming at us. Yeah you know one of those one of those inflections That you've you've talked about and I would love to hear you You know explain more to our audience is the future of the Internet a A loaded loaded question for sure but But you've talked about this in the past. I'm curious like what do you believe is the future of the Internet. Yeah Yeah you know it depends on the time frame it funny enough. I was a I was at the fiftieth anniversary of the Internet. Event event at at Mit about a two months ago and Me and Bob Metcalfe the creator of Ethernet a long time ago were on closing panel and they they asked us to predict the Internet fifty years from now which by the way anybody trying to predict anything. Fifty years out is at best guessing. But that being said you know we had a good a discussion about what we think is gonNA happen. You know. There's there's a number of things that are going to occur because of the internet which is broad connective everything. The first obviously is that that connective is going to grow in. It's going to become much more of a intelligence system right now we kind of interact with the network. We tell it what what to do. And it works on our behalf to some degree but it doesn't understand us what's happening is the networks and the communication systems and even the cloud infrastructures are starting to become Aware of what we're trying to do. They are taking over work that we historically would have to do. And they're working on our behalf whether that's with smart assistance like Alexis in series and Google Voice. He's just the world or whether it's a I in her business process that that is intrinsic to the Internet intelligence being pushed into the net into the cloud beyond that and we know that the result of this hyperactivity is going to allow us to do things in very different ways that will change the way we experience life. Our user experiences grants which is a great example we gave at that event was imagined collaborative. A is working together and the example. We were talking about was imagine sitting in a classroom. You know a bunch of students. uh-huh observing a a professor and taking notes and it sounds like a very benign thing. But in the hyper connected world this future of the Internet imagine if in the room with you was this is maybe everybody had their own personally. I and those things were actually gathering information that you didn't gather they were looking over your shoulder if you will taking notes for you doc. But more importantly they were working together and when all was said and done in that lecture was over the actual notes. The information you had wasn't just information. Use the collective wisdom Adam analyzed and digested into something very consumable in real time because the is in the system because all of the activity was there between the people in that room there's this concept of collaborative technology that we talk about but large doesn't exist but the Internet and it's connected state and the moving of compute into it gives us the ability to do those kinds of things connected. Cars are not just connected to us. They're connected to each other. That is a function of the future of the Internet when that happens. You get an N.. Squared Weird advantage in a one twenty one hundred instead of one plus one equals two and so for us. That's the most exciting thing now. Huge challenges run a create a lot of data. We're GONNA process more days than we ever seen. We're going to have more bandwith where ever gonNA ever experienced or contemplated and we have to scale this thing to basically build infrastructure to make this happen but assuming we do that. It's GONNA be pretty exciting. What's going to happen in terms of this collaborative experience between people and machines that will characterize this hyper connected Internet of the future and how does five? AG play into that if five G. Super Important for for a couple of reasons the three things that are coming in five G. the most people don't understand what one of them they do too they don't the first is yes. We're going to have more bandwith in five G.. It's going to be faster than forgery. Because of the frequency spectrum that operates in because of their radio technology involved alternate and so we'll have faster pipes which is good means. We can put more things into a mobile environment and process more data. The two things that people aren't aware of that's coming with five. The first is fine jewelry. The I will call cloud friendly wireless network today when we deal with cellular. Just see it as a pipe. It doesn't actually participate anticipate in our applications. It's just just bandwith in five G. because of a thing called network slicing and programmable interfaces you as a user an it he professional as cio when you contemplate the pulling your application in the past at best you could do is get some connectivity over four G. Five G. World you'll be able to specify the behavior collectively you'll be able to decide that that particular application needs real time it's incredibly important and instead of just hoping it gets it from the cellular environment your cloud I would. Experience will actually instruct the five G. Experience to set up and dedicate bandwith create a network sliced. Push things all the way out to the mobile device so that entire end to end system will be participating and then lastly five G. will be the first place where we actually see the manifestation of a kind of global edge this idea of compute out in the real world. In real time. Now it will happen in many other places but it won't be a global kind of footprint or national footprint before it happens in five G. The thing that makes that important right now if. You're an innovator if even if you're a CIO and you have a problem to solve the problem requires real time time being the time between an event and the action you have to take is. Let's say five or ten milliseconds incredibly fast way faster than you could accomplishment moving back to a public it cloud or in your data center If you talk about the real world if you want to deal with that today you quite frankly either have to just hope the device itself as autonomous and nothing can do this or no. You can't do it when we have edges being built especially five G. Edges and they start to look like clouds. Now you'll be able to push applications and workloads into a a consumable as a service cloud a new kind of cloud and edge cloud that will allow you to get access to effectively infinite capacity out in those real time comment on that all sounds very academic. But there's already examples of the disruptions coming. Google has a project called Stadia. Stadium is going to disrupt in their opinion. And I think that's probably true the gaming industry because what they're doing is they're basically thinning out the device saying you can get a full blown game experience on a chromebook because you don't the processing on the chromebook because we're gonNA move the processing literally one hop into the network to the edge in real time and by doing that you suddenly have a really interesting disruption occurring because if you look at the global footprint of gaming consoles on average they probably around one percent utilization to have ninety nine percent of the hardware capacity just sitting their idle most the time hypothesis. Well if you move all of that compute cast in aggregate but still keep it in that kind of fifty millisecond real time boundary now all that hard work and run. And I dunno let's say ninety five percent utilization which means that you effectively we'll be able to reduce the cost of gaming if you're successful with this by upwards of ninety five hi percent on the hardware and power consumption side that's a very powerful disruption. There's still a lot of work to be done but the first of many that are going to happen because edge connective capacity in the computer world is present so that you know very exciting for us and You Know Five G. is the first place where those things happen. Not The only place but it's incredibly incredibly important to watch because it will characterize a faster more intelligent and more real time internet that's forming that we're going to run our businesses on. So do you feel like. We're in a Transitional phase now do you feel like like in for it. Do you feel like we're at the CUSP. Before something something bigger we already into it. Yeah Yeah we're already into it actually about two years ago. There's a lot of transitions that go on in our industry but the look at the macro going on right now about seven years ago most enterprise CIO's most business people in the IT. World and many of the technologists started to have this belief that we were heading towards an era era of centralization. We were going to basically take all the it all over the world things in our factories in hospitals and small sites and sales offices. And we were GONNA shove it all into something. The thing in the center in this case maybe division was a single mega cloud that you know one public cloud somewhere else that somebody would run for you in the world would be simple and we'd we lived in that world to be perfectly honest. People believe that was the destination for probably about the last seven years but about two years ago when terms like Iot started materialize and the first edge discussions happened and people started to use the word smart in front of things like factories and hospitals and cities. They realized that you can't do it that way. In fact centralization wouldn't work because the speed of light still applies laws of physics apply. You need real time processing behavior. Creating more data than any any data center in the world could support and so two years ago. We transitioned into the phase. We're in now which is a a a a belief that will actually have decentralized apologies inning. We will push that apology into the real world into the factories into the cities into the hospitals will still be using public clouds. Private data centers SASS providers and even the Five G. infrastructure will be part of this but it will be very distributed but it's behavior will be orchestrated as a multi cloud now these are all buzzwords but they characterize changed a two years ago. The word multi cloud didn't exist distributed was a bad word centralized was what it was all about public clouds. Centralization were the thought process that most people. We're believing. Today I enlarged two years into this shift. Most customers have realized that they will be building multiple cloud environment they needed to make it work like a system and the topology it runs on will not be in one centralized data center. It will be distributed across core edge and a public cloud environment That's a big shift because it changes your strategy. Five years ago you might as head. I'm just going all in with this. Particular cloud provider. I'M GONNA turn my private environment into a private cloud. Run everything everything they are today. That just simply isn't how things are going to play out and it requires you to build different relationships. Invest in the management orchestration layer and the user experience across a multi cloud end incorporate. New Technologies like five g. into your thinking so it's a big shift for people problem is we. Don't have a big announcement in industry that says the transition has begun in fact those people to that transition and are now just starting to realize that things are different today than they were two years ago. But if you take a step back you can see about two years ago. We transitioned out of the centralized single cloud to rule them all phase to the decentralized distributed multi cloud world that. We're probably going to live in for probably the next decade. So is this like the answer to cloud is more clouds E it's more clouds behaving like a system that that second piece is the most most important thing people need to understand today. And what we what we've learned you know is most people are well underway on their digital journey. They're they're they're deploying pointing a either creating modern code. They're building new experiences and as they did that started to accumulate cresent in multiple clouds more clouds surge clouds different public clouds private cloud environments. What's interesting is they started to realize that they went down that journey that digital transformation requires this level of innovation and the cloud environments public-private edge? Give us the capability to do that. But if we end up with a collection of random clouds as our infrastructure and no way way to coordinate across it and to make it into a system the exponential increasing hey office and effort that materializes is just overwhelming and so the thing that people are really struggling with right now. It's definitely what technologies just focused on is. We don't need to create more clouds. There's plenty of them. What we need to do is create unification -cation technology we need to create environments in which those clouds can actually talk to each other with consistent software defined networking? They can communicate and share applications with things like Kuban Eddie's knees across public private clouds they even need to have visibility and an oak management orchestration capability that allows you to to see the telemetry and understand understand the health of the multi cloud not just individual clouds or the economic cost of applications in the multi cloud. That's new as probably only a year here but that seems to be where we're shifting our effort to accept that you will use different clouds because they're just pulls a capability and you're going to need lots of capability but if you do it if if you stop there and don't have a strategy to pull them together and make them operate as a system as you have more problems to solve. You'll have more diverse infrastructure and that diversity will conventionally overwhelm you without a unification strategy which is really what things like our Delta colleges cloud strategy in our work in Kuban Eddie's SDN environments are all about you're responsible about five years ago as as Dell. EMC started moving to open stack. Can you kind of just talk through that that kind of process that journey yea open sources and interesting five years ago You know we says. EMC obviously we had the MC and VM. Ware was part of our portfolio along with a lot of other pieces. And and then this this initiative popped up called open stack open stack. Was You know an open source initiative kind of build a cloud stack now. The reality is open stack outside of the telecom sector a few large enterprises largely kind of faded away. But there's lessons learned about how you participate. In fact I when I when I came into the company there was very much a open source is bad. Add because we you know it's free and somebody told me that the best way to think about it is You know the way they think about free. Software in the traditional world is not ought to think of it as free beer but to think of it as free speech and what we mean by that is there is an economic model underneath open source software. It's designed to be monetize taste. It's just the modernisation different. It's not designed to D- monetize the world what it's really designed to do is try to open communities so that you can apply intellect from a lot of different replaces to solve these big problems and so back. Five years ago I was the guy that said look open. Stack is competitive and but their customers that are gonNA use it but more importantly we see that there's is potentially API's and functions. That are going to happen. There that will be interesting to us and might standardize certain layers and so so I actually had to work through our legal department worked through the ticket of game and convince everybody that we should participate especially in the storage World Cup the largest storage provider in the world and so we began contributing to cinder and swift left Manila storage initiatives inside of open stack we contributed IPR. We had never done that before we allowed people to use our consistency grew by bureau and other capabilities And and all that did was suddenly allowed our customers to stop thinking. There's this binary choice you have to make closed source proprietary commercial software software or open source in fact and what's happened is after that as we progressed we've seen more of this blurring in the sources of innovation around software in our ecosystem have really now become two sources. There is internal commercially developed technology. That comes from a vendor like us that provides a proprietary closed system and those are very good very important but in many cases we either build it with or surrounded with or incorporate into it open source initiatives that fundamentally allow us us to address a broader industry a great example is our our VX rail product which is the the. It's Eric hyper converged. Easy Way to consume infrastructure infrastructure in kind of blocked blocksize building blocks. I guess interestingly enough today when you buy X. Rail you get it with the hardware and the software very primarily. VM ware to basically make it be a unit of infrastructure. But on top of that there are options that add things like cloud foundry cloud foundry is open one source initiative or Kuban Hetty is an open source initiative that allow you to now not just have a closed proprietary system but maybe a stable platform but a collection of open source tools that allow you to participate in broader ecosystems and get access to things like open container management or open platforms for your cloud native applications and so the lesson learned is if we stayed in the old world which was open sources is diametrically opposed to a commercial offer business. We would be in a much different place than we are today. Instead by embracing it and starting with open stack and bring things Open Stack API's into VM. Ware and then progressing into cloud foundry and then progressing into Cooper Canetti's of which now we're one of the largest contributors to that project and are rolling out across our entire portfolio. We actually are ending up with multiple sources of innovation coming together in a platform and the net result is the customer gets a much or capable system that happens to come from different innovation models and different methodologies but our job obvious to put it all together and opening your eyes to this is important. I think the public clouds are going through that exercise right now. Most of the industry has now matured to this point open source and closed source are not diametrically opposed they are just two sources of innovation to build infrastructure and to be perfectly honest good companies know how to use them both to me a little a little bit about your role with cloud foundry because I think that this is something that some of our listeners might be familiar with my not be but it's an absolutely phenomenal phenomenal organization. Yeah cloud foundry is a clever is a project that was created in Vietnam are actually as part of before pivotal existed and then we essentially really when we create a pivotal as business when out of EMC and VM. Ware We open sourced the project. And what what cloud foundry is is the largest open source platform as a service now. Interestingly enough when people hear platform as service they get confused about what what are we talking about. Because inside side of that platform there's container management and there's there's a service mashes and there's all these underlying infrastructure components but then on the top level. There's Bill Bill Patch language for development tools. This idea that you know. It's really easy for software developer to build a really complex application and put it into production and so A- as we started the cloud foundry journey there was no such thing as a platform available so it was the first one to materialize and it it covered the infrastructure side also covered the developer for experience. Some you know some people use a devops. devops is two words. It's development operations cloud foundry. Did both it did the development It made development woman easy of the applications and operating those applications across a multi cloud world possible is the only thing that could do that for cloud native applications. Anyway we brought it out in the open source got a credit of foundation. I've been the chair of that foundation since we created it And people like IBM and HP AND CISCO AND SAP and Oh you know go. Through Swisscom and Home Depot. There's huge numbers of companies that joined that foundation and interestingly enough today probably close I half of the introduction. Composite Cloud native applications in the world are running on cloud foundry. IBM Blue Max. Shoes ever new name for it now but it's just everywhere the funny thing is as it's matured. What's happened is we no longer have to do everything? Inside of cloud foundry so couple of actually less than a year ago. We made it announcement that said. Hey the devops world are now starting to separate a little bit so cloud foundries mission. Going forward is to continue to be the development environment environment that people use to build these positive cloud native applications in collections of applications is micro services with their. API's all working as a system to deliver some liberal something like a mobile experience or the interface insure cable systems or some of the largest cable operators or or the platform to manage logistics for the US Air Force A it is all based on cloud foundry implementation but we recognize just underneath there while we used to do all the container management ourselves and other industry ecosystem. Because just called Kuban Eddie's materialized and so he announced his a well why don't we just incorporate Kuban Eddie's into this system and separate devops a little bit further and now that's a little detail most people don't need to know but what it shows is that as we progress. Forward cloud foundry is a great example that the most important thing we needed to build was a path where a developer upper could go into production quickly and in fact cod foundries still to this day provides the easiest you create a set of applications. You get y'all development tools. The built Environment Abe Guy Management. But when you actually want to invoke that application it's literally a command called cf Kush and the applications psyche and it gets pushed into production. You don't even think think about how that happened. And if you want to scale it you need more instances of it it's command like cf scale number on the application. It's that number is ten thousand. He infrastructure just goes goes off and builds ten thousand instances. It makes sure they're running it. Make sure if they failed their recovered. It is predictable. All of this capability which many people think is the future of the industry has been available and things like cloud foundry for now going on four or five years but it's a great example of that in certain areas specifically very the advanced cloud native development. There's a lot of tools and technology that most of the industry most customers haven't used yet and those technologies are moving and progressing and advancing dancing and my advice to people is as you're thinking about your software journey you need to become very educated about a broader ecosystem. That's available to you. So yeah when we when we talk due to a lot of you know technology leaders and CEOS it kind of feels like there's there's that kind of never ending journey That ongoing The escalator to the sky of digital transformation. How do you look at like maybe putting things in Chung Surin pieces Or in places so that you can kind of hit certain milestones that you need to be at like what are you talking about the people. Yeah Yeah I mean the first thing is to recognize that you're on a journey you know most people think you're you're looking for an event vent and digital transformation isn't like a point in time it's a long term journey that might go on well beyond your existence whatever role you're in so you have to look at what what's possible possible and try to figure out incremental steps in the right direction you know having a North Star is important you know and I think everybody understands going to be a you know a automotive company these days your the North Stars you better be on a path towards upon vehicles might take twenty years to get there but that's where you're Goin' interested enough that when you look at the technology you have to kind of decide we're we're the best focus areas we'll give you an example a is a fantastic one right now Most people think they look at and they think it's going to create. I don't know the Terminator Herminator or something you can do that. You can really create things that are science fiction and the reality of it. Maybe it will be able to do that at some point in your future But but when people ask me what they should do I actually tell them. The biggest application machine intelligence is improving various business processes. You have where you have to make predictable decisions by using machines to better make those decisions of places where it matters and so if you look at your business process and you find a place where if you make a good decision. There's a net positive. Make a bad decision. There's a net negative might be predicting or supply chain might be predicting demand might be in the in the case of a storage system. Managing your cash inside of the system anywhere. There's a process where decisions czar made if you could improve those decisions using machine intelligence and have a material impact it's probably worth doing. And it turns out that in many cases the actual aspirational goal of those projects is to improve that decision by maybe five percent. Now that doesn't sound very exciting except imagine if you improve the inventory management of your supply chain by five percent or imagine if in the case of our technology systems inside a power MACs a very high end enterprise storage system. You can improve shits by five percent and that doesn't sound like a lot accept cash. It has eighty times higher performance than a cache miss so improving by five percent materially changes the performance of that system without having hardware to it improving inventory management by two percent on a company like del. That has You know the largest supply chain in the technology world could be billions of dollars improving improving power consumption of a massive data centers by better light management and power management by five percent might result in one hundred million dollars in cost savings. And so we actually try talk people down and when they're on from the big aspirational goals. It's great to have them as a North Star but the way you get there is one step at a time when you look at a new technology ask ask how it might make forward progress in a way. That's material and achievable using the technology. We have today because otherwise you get overwhelmed by saying. I can't build the Terminator Ermanno today. Because I don't have all the parts to do nothing. And if you do nothing all the people who start this incremental steps of improving their processes improving their business yet ahead of you and so the the journey is a journey. There's a destination that you ought to be clear about and come up with an answer about where your long term going to end up but then the progress through that journey is really really about small bites at the apple incremental improvement to the technology and actually getting results and in fact in the IM L. says every business process you have can be improved so the ones that are most important and try to make better decisions using machine intelligence it will improve your business full stop and if you do that a number of times you eventually changed economics of your company. And its competitiveness and you'll be well on your way on that journey towards the destination of becoming a digital business in your domain. But but it's really about her of separating being the aspirational long-term goal from the tactics to get there and the tactics around technology tend to be understand well understand what's achievable today and go. What do it because those are steps to get you to bigger outcomes? That will happen later. John will it has been absolutely awesome to have you on the show. Thanks so much for joining us. Any final thoughts so fundamentally automatically in our industry keeps changing any it professional CIO IT director. Technologist who wants to stand still probably is going to find themselves uncomfortable situation choice but but but moving is good because frankly it results in in progress and so my advice to people is you know I pay attention to do. All of the technology landscape. Ask questions when you see something like five G.. Don't just you know right off ask. Is this relevant to me. Ask Her suppliers. Ask Your partners to help you understand understand. The technology but realize many technologies aren't going to matter in the near term they might be disruptive in the long term. Ai Is a great example with our near term implications long term implications in the more you as a CIO understand those technologies and how they fit in your world and what the destination is in this case maybe to build a multi cloud system as opposed to collection of random clouds. You can start to develop that strategy to to get to that point and then to do that. The journey is a series of incremental steps. Where you exploit the technology to make progress progress in improving the efficiency and effectiveness organization? You know the reason I say that is. That's in fact what technologies was built to do. We are here. You're to be the essential infrastructure company of our industry and we do that by basically helping customers on that journey and so Closing thought is looking. Okay we're all on the same journey. We built a company. Ninety two billion dollar company to help you on a journey to be part of that journey But at the end of the day the only way that we are collectively successful is if every one of our customers every business in the world becomes a better more efficient more effective more automated and provides a better our customer outcome and the the biggest tool that we have today to do that is the exploitation of technology and data and the way to do that is invested in technology and paying attention to the space. which is the dialogue? We want to be having with our customers and the area that we're focusing our innovation awesome. Thanks John Everyone should check them out and give them a follow on twitter to follow on twitter order and will link that up in the show notes. Appreciate having you on. Thanks very much take care. 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Episode 134: Keep The Champagne On Ice ft. World Champion Yankees Strength Coach Dana Cavalea

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Episode 134: Keep The Champagne On Ice ft. World Champion Yankees Strength Coach Dana Cavalea

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It's twelve thirty two in the morning. We've reached now Thursday morning. We've been amoral aimlessly waiting for the goddamn dodgers in Kenley Jansen to close out the Tampa Bay rays they refuse to do that. They're a bunch of assholes. This is insane. It's all's holds better though kind of Hello Tommy Yeah we're in limbo right now. We're just as in limbo is you could ever be as some loud ass. Shit Shit starts right outside my apartment church in here that and here I did say to you today. I was like hey you know we got this plan for tonight. Tapis don't win tonight. Things could get a little hairy and like the worst possible scenario was that the rays game somehow goes to extra innings. Actually it started earlier the nights before ten o'clock and now we're just here right now. It's what the top the eleven and the dodgers game there. They managed to to be down now to runs. They're down eight six. What is their problem? What other razor winning eight six yeah? What did you think it was? I thought it was still six six last night. You know the reason I said let's record this because Metro's a fucking homer before the like N. Even started in the eleventh and then then Fam- double they sacked sacraments eight six rush it Yeah Shit maybe win tomorrow and they have a more more proper celebration. I will say it's kind of funny seeing all the Yankee beat writers outside the Locker Room in like raincoats in coach and just and just looking like the dumbest people on Earth like like we think we have it bad right now. I mean we don't but I mean Villes guys have the go home and they got the raincoats on to really hate us right. If you're watching the yes network showalter Walter Setup Buck showalter saying like you know like I'm like he's still a manager Modi's. I'm going to send these guys home. He's like I don't know you know. After a certain point wait is true you begin tomorrow on everyone to be shot for tomorrow and it isn't important aim with you know the Astros and everything and you WanNa win to clinch so yeah. I'm I'm worst case scenario would have been this game went like eighteen innings and which I guess could happen and the raise one but off the rails GonNa win in eleven. I guess it's not too bigalow disaster. I think we're past the point like I think the Yankees are going home right now. I don't I cannot imagine it's eight six raise. I can't imagine staying around. We waited this long. Let's just see the end of it good point though Tanaka not there. She's pitching on Thursday Brian era now so he kinda everyone there you also want to do it off a win like best-case off win so like they just make a decision like hey guys fuck this. Let's just win our own and we'll be happy tomorrow. It's the loss on Wednesday. The you know the Weird Lawson suspending whatever yeah conjure eller show a little bit but it's all good I will say I was getting annoyed with the fans on twitter being like Oh. It's just it doesn't feel right they they shouldn't celebrate after laws it doesn't feel like shut the fuck fuck up late because the res playing a West Coast game complicated things but if the res played at seven o'clock and you know they they lost are sorry yeah. The rays lost a Nancy's finish the same time it also lost the clinch. You have ever right to go celebrate just as hard as you would. If you want I mean what are the division. You're not celebrating winning the game or losing the game that night. It's a season-long accomplishment newbury first division title in seven years feel I mean just shut out. Feel doesn't feel right after a loss. Don't tell them they can't celebrate as Cassandra loss. I mean that's ridiculous. I think within five minute or thirty seconds to a celebration. Nobody's GonNa have any recollection of which is the game anyway yeah at the end of the day. I'M GONNA sign with my guys. In my players. The guys you have the winds on the field field and they wanted to pop champagne. You know what so I agree with them. Pop Champagne the I don't care whatever they wanted to the way today. I'm on board. That's who I won't. I won't go against them. That's their call is their accomplishments their achievement they do whatever the fuck they want. They clearly won the pop the champagne tonight do whatever you want but we will put on ice and other day I think me and you we said before we started the show that we will also we will be doing an instagram live dual thing if and and when they went on Thursday so you can get our reaction you know live reaction stuff to the champagne because I think you know we wanted to give you that show you know you the reactions and whatever so we'll give you a little bit of that on Thursday night if they were to do it on a win. If it's a loss I don't know I don't know we'll do the same thing you know. They're they're not collude though when Thursday and you'll get your little reaction we do have a lot to talk about though first of all Dell Matanzas I mean we're starting to show a bad bad note but we I mean the number one story right now del Matanzas as an torn Achilles. I mean it's partially torn my you know there have to see if they're gonNA need surgery. They don't know yet. He's in a walking boot. After the game on on Wednesday I got agreed. CC kind of like acqu teary eyed moment but Dalla Matanzas appears to happened on the strike where he thought he was three outs and there's only two and and he lands a little awkwardly looks like and he's dancing off the Malecki always does something he's done a thousand times and tears. He looked so good on Sunday so good eight eight pitching to strikeouts looked incredible feeling great. The bullpen is as good as it's ever ever go. Maybe in the history of baseball going into the playoffs you know better than the royals when they want it all and then you come into the twitch on Tuesday as one down the show and you're like you see the news. I'm like no the game's over you know. I'm feeling Great Severino Pitch Great. We'll get into on a second and you're like Dell Tours Achilles. I'm like we talking about why you plan any joke on me like this and yet it was a nightmare it is it's tough to call the season from hell when they're going to you know win the division in win over Andrei Games but the amount of things that have gone wrong. They see it's just it is beyond belief. Yeah I was out there. Jack Mack goes to me. Oh you see potential towards Achilles and it didn't register in my head yeah because like he's not a Yankee fan base on the Yankee Fan so I was like he has the wrong name like is something wrong with us. The wrong name is reading it like there's something is wrong. Reported for the there's no way is just was my brain was not computing the down Britan's could have possibly possibly like they had an off day on Monday to committee autumn. It seems fine Sunday like it might bring honestly my brain still does not compute how it happened. I have a weird theory. Sorry like conspiracy here so on the honor getty images site you know they have all pictures of Yankees one of the other things so Monday. Cc had the whole team was at the Legacy Foundation dinner for CCC bath. You like the end of the year thing Delon's in pictures with his girlfriend. I don't know if they're married right whoever but like they're smiling and like he wouldn't did he hurt their. You think maybe maybe dancing. Could that possibly be real real like that's not being talked about right now because he looked fine pitching like come off the mound. You would think like you'll see towards something. You'd see a little bit of a winter whatever he's all smiles like you. Don't notice anything like I don't know I I've been holding in saving for the show like part of me thinks something might have happened at that dinner like an accident of some sort. I don't know warn Achilles like he's not gonNA be too happy. Sunday knows Monday night to go out. You know yeah. Maybe that's a possibility I didn't want to. I've been thrown out on the twitter sphere yet. I don't see I don't know if I'm GONNA 'cause like I only want positive thoughts. I don't want to start start anything but like dude he was at that dinner on Monday with his girlfriend wife wherever you were caller and they looked happy and he wasn't a walking boot and then a Tuesday comes in and the injury happens. It's like some paper he moved okay tonight right when he approved and he's a walking boot who then he's not in the walking with at dinner. You would think if he had that injury he wouldn't have shown and saying he can't show up to the dinner but like I don't know it is like he's I'm still moving. Pretty fine is shorts. I think he's like maybe at the hospital getting like again exam Zam or something if something's up. I don't know if I don't know I don't know if it's true. I'm just saying like that was weird. That just like something. Unquote went off my head on my That's interesting just something to think about but anyways a brutal injury not a season championships over injury nothing like that that but it just gets a little bit harder you know because out of you know seems to be running in a little bit of fumes right now. He hasn't been really locked down yet. The rest of the bullpens been fine Canley. Look Great on Wednesday night. Britain's been brock's Chapman's been Greg Green's been great but consensus being slid into that into a whatever will weapon actual you can use them. Wherever ever makes everything so much easier? It's like almost you need. A four innings from the start of the game is over. You know five innings you need. If you five things you need you need like four innings out of six pitchers Ritz really and Batangas and I said this time and time again when he's on like he was even with his ninety five our stuff on Sunday one of if not the most dominant pitchers in as a relief pitcher in baseball. That's how good that guy is so to lose him brutal title. I think it's also brutal. He's GONNA be thirty two next year. He's a free agent. He lost this entire the shoulder injuries and now he's got this. If you need surgery that you know next year's gone just brutal for him. Just the guy of self wanted to get back to your so badly. He's from Washington Washington Heights. He wants to be potter. World Series Championship bronze so badly you know it's been killing him just seeing him out there. In something he was so happy and this is just brutal for him not just the the team for for him. Now it saw it sucks like you said it sucks because her either I mean yeah they've been the best one of the best teams baseball season without Adam so it's not like this is a loss as much of it's not in addition. If that makes any sense dodgers two men on now in on the eleventh this this would be annoying annoying but okay sorry keep going but yeah I mean I just feel so bad for him personally to work your way back like that and to finally I'm sure he felt like Oh. Oh great I'm going to be part of this. October was so happy you know it. It sucks. It's size sports to suck sometimes and I don't know I I know it's like people spoil Danke fantastic twenty seven rings about to win your hundred gain clinch the division. You're complaining about how life isn't fair. Amount of injuries sustained. The season really isn't fair. It's insane and it's never happened before. It's never happened before if the amount of injuries to this team happened to any any other team that team is in last place west this many injuries that many important people the last place there's no other team in baseball. I think well at least they don't make the playoffs. I won't say they don't make the playoffs they don't. They don't win the division this easily. It just jumped all now best record in the league. That just doesn't happen. It just shows you how good this organization's been put together or that. They were able to sustain all this and still be one of the best teams. I mean. They're so a job. They've done Brennan's together Prince Team together together. This organization is incredible. They lost all these guys. This is basically plead this season it not even half strength basically and that this half ish version of the Yankees is still which is better than everyone else. It's just the depth of this team have crappy cash from credited boon for keeping everyone's head had you know on check and and not you know anyone who came up kind of felt welcomed him as you are important to this team and I think boone really did a great job of that and that's probably why Boone wins manager of the year in my opinion that's another story when he does win it but with potential going down as what these these actually GonNa win it. It's him in Delhi right pretty much. Just give it to Rocco Bowl Deli. They tailed off. I mean they're still GonNa win the division but they held off I mean I think it's such a manager there move just give it to like the twins guy well. There's always Yankee bias with awards the she the factor that in I don't know I think he deserves it giving them any injuries to keep everyone's everyone come you know they had the show is the mytalk men's and and they still won. I think it should be him. I'm like you said I'm just thinking bias yeah for sure. That's always I mean probably give it a core or something. Core wanted again but with breath batanes is going down as fucked up as seen is that meant to someone was coming back up at mammoth Luis Severino we were all nervous going I mean I was really he really nervous like around the game start at six thirty and obviously swimming very good joke on twitter I don't have the name on top of my head but they said how seventy didn't give him some ten minutes to warm up for game three of the AIDS so he gave himself ten months this time those kind of a funny joke but yes he starts on Tuesday drilling. They said he's seventy seventy five pitches what they're going to give them and you don't know if he's GonNa overextend himself you know he's me over Severino's known really channels emotions and an pitch with emotion and fire and you just don't want the guy that just hurt himself out there you know just trying China overthrow and trying to be no one Ryan out there and he comes out. You know I was so nervous around five o'clock once like the office started clearing out and you we're doing the twitter stream whatever and I was like Holy Shit like just don't fuck just don't be don't be a joke like pitch well. Please just pitch well pitch healthy and just get out of there and three or four innings fine and it comes at the first guy that Brian Goodwin. This asshole works up twelve pitch at Bat. I mean we only got seventy five pitches Max of Severino no and we wasted twelve on the first bat. Are you kidding me. We're doing matthew simple math and we'll be lucky to get two to three innings right now and then he gives a boob single right after that I think it's the Fletcher but he does luckily get out of it. Gets a nice ground ball to shift and then a double play ball the pools. Who can't I mean no one is no one is losing a foot race? Our pool stays like no one. Even people like one leg. You can beat out money balls a smoking okay Albert Pool Halls. I actually think so I gently of course dodgers make it eight seven okay so the topic run second game but yes so he gets out of it it gets out of it and like seventeen pitches and the takeaways there. You can't really put he wasn't putting hitters away. Fine just got out of it. We'll find second seconding strikes out to guys the miles per hour starting to tick up. He's getting stronger. He looked great from innings. Two or four and the coolest part of it was the third inning is Mas Paris his speed charter to go down a little bit and boom on the palm after three and he's like why he goes so you're ninety two ninety three. You know you're going to tidy no. I'm not tired out there. I'll get stronger and it came out and through ninety nine miles an hour so it's like okay we several years back back and he was so good all game. It really was effortless the way the ball is exploiting on his hand. He's locating a slider up the boss. Brown sliders were worried right about that was right where it should have been change. It was good everything was good. It was a really good outing for Severino Gimme that Sevi- all playoffs long I we don't even more in four innings. GimMe said before innings shutout would be ideal. Obviously foreigners one-run health warnings to runs when it be the end of the world. That's what we need out of him. I mean meal probably seem to more to more starts right. Yeah I mean I'm I'm like if there was a planet game five. I become hate having another two two so he gets tuned up a little bit more we could build back outfits but everything. I needed to see Tuesday night. He had he had the fast ask law he had the he had the off speed stuff had a slider control the strike zone like yeah. It wasn't an eight inning shutout dominant performance but but I just don't think there's now enough time left in the air where it sever is going to get to that point Gimme four five innings of really good semi and I'll take he got eleven times out of ten. I think the plans again like ninety pitches. which I think is reasonable? I mean through what sixty seven a star like. We're talking about him in like bullpen role I know I think that's the plan I think like we were kind of like confused by the whole thing. It was just like I think we were just we thought the plan was to be like it kind of guy following the opener but it seems like they just wanted to be a starter five five star which is great fine. Take no but overall like I'm feeling good. I was a little nervous from that thing where he wasn't throwing hard and then he just ninety nine I was nervous. We're GONNA wake up today given how the seasons GonNa on me like a reaction everything he's done for the year but didn't hear think so I assume if he had normal soreness and he's good to go for his next start and hopefully flee that will be an eighty start. I think maybe they'll go to because they threw sixty seven this time so everything's good which is cute. I didn't think I didn't they know how smooth it was going to go but I think it was like best case scenario so yeah just a great which is scary right. Well things go like what goes up must come down right so part of that coming down today so the the Yankees curse this year the Voodoo doll curse has hit the whole team obviously what twenty nine guys and the I l. a. Million Miss Games John Sterling for the love of God had the mistime Mike Michael Kay mistime. It's time and finally hit the bloggers fear on on Wednesday. I was struck by a bicycle on Wednesday four tweet dawn so I left the office I was going to go meet your the Tattoo Guy who's in today. That's my buddy was meeting him at the Bar and I'm crossing thirty third AH street and sixth avenue going towards fuck was going to so sixth avenue going towards Second Avenue and it's only one way traffic going to the right side so I'm so I'm waiting at the light with a bunch of people and then the light rusel so no clutch tonight yeah so far so I saw the white the white sign goes everyone starts walking and it's only one way traffic. It's only going from right to left and so I look to the right you know making sure. No one else is coming because that's where the traffic comes from and as I'm walking I'm here watch out. Watch out watch out from this fucking asshole scum of the Earth bicyclists. It's the worst person on the planet coming left to right the opposite way buddy. You are nowhere near. It's not even a green light. You are nowhere near in your right and what is as you crashes into me. My left arm my left arm. I actually thought I broke my arm. For about ten minutes. I literally got to the Bar I was like panting and my the pages would not subside and and eventually got it still hurts like fucking bitch and actually have chest pain because the bicycle also went to my chest but I didn't get knocked down to eight the IB basically eight the bicycle and got into a nice shouting match a nice as I'm like walking away from the whole thing just oh curse getting a good like easy ten to the guy it was. It felt so strong what I was saying. He's like you're not in. You're like what the fuck are you talking about dude you. We're not like it is a long fucking way going the wrong way. It's a right light. I I couldn't say it in twenty. You can't tell someone WanNa die on twitter anymore. You get immediately like in Twitter Jill so I think some of the lines of like I hope he loses the keys to his house. I hope he gets an S. T. D. YOU and he gets arrested for tax evasion or something like that but we're now in a trustee right now. I hope that guy dies. I hope he dies a terrible arable fucking death fuck that guy fuck you fuck you. I hate cyclists in general but man if you just like going the wrong way and just crashing in the people like a Goddamn astle fuck you do to help you blow your tire. You fall down the sewer and alligator issue alive. That's I hope you die. I'm getting fired up. I just love getting reasons to get mad man especially at cyclists I mean I feel like it's pretty universal. Everyone just hates these. fucking scumbags fights has led the cause well but I mean that's that's always what I thought. If you're are GONNA be look if you want to be a little harto piece of shit and ride your bike in the middle of the street fine but then you got to abide the abide by the rules of fucking road buddy like you know when it when it's a red light you stop when it's a one way street you don't go the opposite way you want to be in the street. Obey the laws of the Road I love. I never got hip I want. I don't WanNa get hit by one. It's not funny what it's not fun. We love to just like come. Just close up. Don't get hit but I still get to get shout like there's so so many things I'd love to say. I'm a little jealous. You got that opportunity. There have been many times this year. We're like this Yankee season as bad as the injuries have. It's been a dream and I've been looking ahead and every time I walked to work occasionally when I walk to work I think just don't die today. Don't just Kinda. Just make it to November. This is going to be so much fun this ride this team. It's magical you can feel it. Just make it to November then you can die and for like a split second. I thought I thought I was GONNA die for no not like this is bullshit. Luckily I'm still I'm still what did. TJ Just how we feel what the hell the TJ to send us. I don't know what that was what I was and I can even and live with a bicyclist like you know how like they just don't obey the traffic signs. They just go when it's red or whatever that's fine if it's still like the flow of traffic brought I'm not gonNA look to my left. When it's a one way street the other way you know so just just insane fucking can't fuck that guy I hope he died a miserable death very soon and I hope to God? He's a Red Sox Fan Fil no way that guy I hope to God. I don't share the same phantom as that guy. There's no way no way assholes. Also assholes like Yankee no way that Ashkenazi accuweather says no fucking chance moving on to catch my breath. CC's final home start was Wednesday Wednesday district side in the second inning. That was cool it. Did it feel like to you. That's it like as a whole. No I think he'll be on the postseason roster. especially with Batanes down felt weird to me. I don't know I got a weird vibe from it. I don't know how how important his appearances will be in October. I don't think there'll be that I mean there's a chance he number stuff on mount again. There is no. I think he'll pitch pitch next week. I think he will 'cause. They're gonNA try him in the relief mode yeah I what I expect to make a deep run so I think he'll probably pitch in the postseason but I will say one little pet peeve of mine. I'm getting so tired of people like almost babying see see see where I mean not always. There's some I saw some stuff I think he's twitter but also I saw it in the post game show like Oh you know. CC He pitched pretty well tonight. No he did not seem to and two-thirds innings and allowed two runs left with the baseload look. I know he's not the same pitcher but I honestly it's a big. It's more insulting to see into his legacy to be like Oh. Yes see see you did pretty good tonight two-thirds choice. You know it's not that that's a garbage start art. CC knows that's a bad start. You know he was obsessed with this guy used to be a workforce goes seventy eight any and I get that he's not that guy anymore. Don't expect them to be that guy anymore but I don't want him to. I don't want to act like our GRANDPA or like a little four year old. We're going to be on a different scale. Come on like I like interest insulting thing to see to have a go all right. He did pretty well today. I also don't think he's only anywhere near healthy like I think he's like like he was pitching most of the season forty percent healthy. I think he's like twenty five percent healthy right now so like I think they all knew that that's why I get the vibe like I don't know it could have been it like that can happen his last like Sh- I think that's his last start ever. I think it's a less start. He ever has everything awesome as a reliever and it would work to you know last star comes inky Stadium Yeah so I duNno we're vibes funny thing his him dappling everybody the first guy so that was actually really really sweet and they're they're good buddies but you you made the the comment on twitter about you would be a disaster and adapt line. I think you fall in line with never never kind of went for like the handshake when everyone's like i. I'm a pretty good dapper. I think I would have been right there with Delon like I think that would have been my move. Whatever Dylan did is what I would have went with but you would have went with like the weird handshake like half hug look like There's no possible way that gone smoothly for me. It's not so today so head coach Dana Dana Cavalier and then you'll hear his interview soon. We had a pretty good everything with them. Greeting a good good by a good I could buy when handshakes that was pretty right but then you miss this there was a second goodbye on his way out where I like. He gave his left hand. I I gave my right hand and it was like site. We're like standing side to side. Basically Oh was like we were like holding like totally shaking your hand. Yeah almost like holding hands or it was done so well and I blow it at the end. God God damn. That's tough 'cause pretty simple like hello goodbye with that guy feel like and that's tough. You can't handle that we have to go back to we have to go back to the drawing longboard. I feel like we've we've gone to. I don't want to be good adapts. You know what I mean. It just never going to be good. I'm fine okay suit to be good at when when the new wave of greetings comes by you gotTa jump on that when I go away you got to be the first one like yet all in in here in this study to show them but yeah obviously see very sad who knows that's start off to see what else I'll say within the game pretty much the reason Yankees lost Alino not good again really struggling -vely in terms of in her in his standards Kinda fall a little bit down the trash realities running on fumes out if he's just having a weird you know having a weird go but where are your concerns out of you know. I'm not super concerned the timing of it for the playoffs obviously in great but I think sometimes uh-huh hitters pitchers used to like it happens. I would say I give them the weekend. We saw him Wednesday. I'd I'd say you know what clear mind don't worry about it. WE'RE NOT GONNA use Thursday through Sunday and then next week try to get them two to three appearances where he's rested sustained and he'll be good and you can have confidence themselves. We can have confidence in him going supplyhouse. That's that would be highlighted so he's now giving up a run in his last four appearances France's one of those was unearned. we has like eight blown saves this year. They're pretty well. One saves her yeah. I know I know it's just a weird style. They might be nine now. Yeah I mean not overly concerned because his stuff is just discussing and you know he's shown time and time again again but this is probably the worst stretch he's been in as the Yankee looking back and says of concern you know he's had like one really bad appearance here and there but in terms of like stringing them together together. I think this is the worst that's a little concerning. They do generally give him plenty of time off. This was only his seventh appearance in nineteen days. I feel like that's not crazy at all. That's almost like three days rest two days rest in between appearances so yeah a little concerned but nothing like I'm hitting the panic button but I just WanNa get shit together so maybe he doesn't need the weekend offer something. We'll see another guy who came back so they kind of why thought like death came after today with the bicyclist was Giancarlo came back nice to see him back. I think we've been pretty firm with that. We Watch on call it back right yeah. I think I definitely want to go back. Look the hazy gets saint he two years ago. We'll be talking about like there was a tweet from is the network account Avocado Return. Some other flies were just just discussing. We don't want him back. Oh we don't need some four three restrike. Outlook was great in the playoffs last year. WHO's been plants? Last year hasn't been great in clutch situations but you know what is a great baseball appoint. He's capable of going on a tear that can carry a team. He could have not going to say he'll do it but I think it's a possibility I know you're gonNA say that. He is an owner like era. Yeah I mean he's as all the potential to do that. That's how good he's he's talented and Iran was just just as bad as I mean in a bigger sample size much bigger sample size just as bad you know so as dumb and he comes up to the plate fall behind to this I back and rips a double and everyone's like Oh all right. He's pretty good yeah. Freely this guy. He hits the ball one hundred ten miles an hour at least every single time he makes contact. We could probably used that probably be probably good. You haven't the lineup and then in the outfield. He's no slouch. Either People Forget. He's one of the best arms in baseball. I mean the guy he had headed here. The guy dead the rights if gosh okay hang onto the ball beat them by pretty good margin. Do you feel her can help us in October. You guys are morons morons. If you don't want that crazy to be the starting left fielder not tober too especially with Hicks Garnering Center judging right. I even important he he is. You WanNa put an X. factor. Whatever in October I think you can make the case that is from Carlos and yeah I mean I am not to put this guy? I'm blessed but I mean you're the first person that comes to my mind. This Guy Brian Barcelona. Hell the last name to wells. He tweeted me this morning wrong for not wanting to call back in the lineup. I really think think that huckster lineup as way too much for me. He's GonNa kill so much momentum. I think I'm okay if he comes back and hits like eighth but no way he should be near the top. I mean get it together. Guys get it to you call standalone we're going on the record the short porch we are very pro Giancarlo and if he goes over four three strikeouts in LDS game on I can't say I can't say we'll be standing by that much. Ah Give Him more than a game like if he has one strikeout critical spot. I'll be like look. This guy can't believe me back but you know that that's playoff baseball. Almost it's just corrobos getting your head because Kobe the first part. He was probably had his finger. If I know him he was watching it I I bet I know he's watching the first at that and he had his finger on the Tweeden. Provinces Tweets Chroma crows can get my head. It's more just like myself getting right right right so but I mean that's that's the only thing that's GonNa make you feel negative Carl. At this point just well. I get some Yankee twitter and stay away from it. Shit read our tweets. We'll be positive we'll be positive I was pretty negative two years ago kind of change my tune. We'd positive now especially because I cheated death. Today I will be negative right now though are did you see these yankees new era caps that yes me as one of the worst hats ever see my life. I think I need was why why there's just so bad that I think I like them. They look you have like a bunch of toothpicks tape to the hat. I'm not a hat person not knicks. Whatever what are they called when you put him in ears your wax they called you tips to cue tips cue tips tape to a fucking and I'm kind of thrilled by to be honest doesn't display hat? I feel like it's a good display hat like just avenue desk not to aware display hat. Yeah that's true. I don't know I see everybody hating on it and it's like I think I need that. I mean what you'll see is just the people who like just go against the tide. They'll just take all yeah. This is sick just for just to go against the tide. I won't be one of those people that had sticks. We can do better than that. Let's let's let's be real here. Folks what else oh the cool moment happened at fenway happened the couple of days ago like cool the how about this the most memorable moment of the entire season for the red sox. was someone hitting a homer against the Red Sox your strength ski kit hitting hitting a home run. That's the most memorable moment at fenway this year. How about that? It was cool. It was pretty cool yeah. This is pretty cool but that's the that's all the red talk to hang their hat on. Someone had a hormone awesome pretty cool. Fuck what an eighteen red sox baseball baby yeah all right so I'm still like hurting from this bicyclist thing. It's just I can't even tell my mom is not anything. Oh my gosh we go to the hospital. You got hit by a full speed bikes. Are you kidding me. She what you almost tonight as almost at Marquee nightclub with Gashi the rapper you almost want. How close did he go so so Tuesday Gashi rappers m coming out Friday pretty basin over a million followers on instagram has the song my year with Jisi he came in Tuesday's managers like a big Fan? I met him last year was like you're the best are going to be on Saturday night. Live one day man thank. You like drought just I. I don't even know you handing out incredible supplements like that I died me a drink. I I did a video with Gashi and afterwards. I think I'm just in Gosh. She's entourage walks. He's like Oh man like Marquis nightclub tomorrow night. I got a private table or celebrate my house. It's only like you know close friends and stuff that you could come bring wherever you want and I wasn't going to go. I mean going to a club on Wednesday night. It would have been cool to go with nightclub with rapper but it's a Wednesday night the newer recording tonight I'm tired like I I don't need that but then I was talking to mark Mush about it and he was like we gotta go you crazy. That's the whole reason we they have this job so marty was gonna come with me but then once I I mean it's one ten right now so like I want to begin to marquee like probably two or two thirty like God. That's just not happening like I'm so comfortable in my bed. The idea of going on right now is out of the question. I will go to album release party tomorrow night but yeah my night ah I considered for a little bit spending my night out a nightclub with around the thought of that gets me is Austin. I hate clubs I I can't I really want to light clubs so when I tell you know an elevated surfaces I do like to do that. I it's like when I first heard toilet on. I'm going to really like clubs like the vague your shrimps with Dave and stuff and I was like this is cool added here when he buys you forty Graham ramblers or stuff at a table like there's like all right. I'm going to be a club guy and then it's like I just I the thing with clubs to me. Is Your you feel better about it in like weeks in advance like Oh that was cool that one time but in the moment you're like man I'd much rather just be home right now and you know what I was like. You know what I'd rather be at my bad right now. So you go album release party on Thursday seven thirty to ten. It's sponsored answered by Print Street Pizza which was awesome pizza so I was. I doing the reaction video to winning the Division that'll be I'm not going to go for the whole thing. Okay you'll leave curly. Also that would talk probably Gotcha all right well yeah. I won't be there with you well not that I was invited anyways but I'm not I'm just is not good. I can't be I can't do that. I don't envision myself rally or something. I'll be void entourage if I can get in. That's the that's the entourage I'm maybe before. I'm even my sites there. What else by head like her? I think I might be concussed. I don't know what's going on here. I just opened my tunes. I don't don't have I don't want it ain't GonNa play Oh so we have this interview Dana Cavalier the nate. I'm so battling Cavalier Yeah Okay Okay Dana Cavalier. He is the two thousand nine shrimp thing conditioning coach for New York Yankees. He's got a world series ring and brought it into the studio. It's pretty cool. We thought little change patient. We've had players on we've had you know the Ryan Ruko John Sterling's but different side of the game more behind the scenes that you don't hear about often pretty cool motivational speaker now he wrote a book your hear all about it and hopefully he can help us get through all these injuries and make us feel better about it and not to point the finger at anybody because he's obviously been in the shoes in. It's not easy so before we get into that. Do want to talk to you. Guys about the Barcelos store lost stuff coming with the barstool sewer. We got a bunch of Yankee stuff in the pipeline not out just yet but in a few days it should be Maybe maybe by the time you listen to this Thursday night. If you listen to this hopefully we'll get it up with them. We're trying we got some good stuff it promise but along with the Yankees stuff coming out football's back obviously it's September the fall crisp air. It just feels right October baseball football football or it's all kickoff here stock up on all your Game Day essentials that the Barstool sports store fourteen letters three words football is back stock up on everything you need this football football season from tease sweatshirts tailgate gear for guys and girls. How are you getting ready for Game Day? The barstools store has you covered this season with the best marks from across league so go to store DOT Barstool sports dot com shop now at store parcells sports dot com got a bunch of football stuff. You're gonna Yankee stuff all the stuff you need. Don't shop anywhere else shop at the barstools store stored stored up parcel sports dot com without further ado and this will close out the show and we'll see back here on Monday and we'll also give you a little taste on Thursday once which we win the division then hopefully we win the fucking division at some point in the next ten days you'll hear from US Dan again on instagram follows there eric hubs arrogant scrubs and you're you're just Tomsk value right yeah. It's a follow get on those and be prepared then but we're we're in the show with an interview with Dana Cavalier. Enjoy we now welcome in the former director of strength conditioning and performance for the New York Yankees he helped lead the team to a world championship in two thousand nine the same year he was awarded the Nolan Ryan Award given to the top strength and performance former coach ladies and Gentlemen Dana Cavalier. What's going on man now much? Thanks for having me guys what's happened by. We thought we change up of it. We've had a bunch of players in this year but given even the current state of the team. We thought we'd we take we pick at the mind of strike the kitchen coach because I don't know what the Hell's going out yeah yeah. No a lot of people you know look towards has the strength coach. When there's a lot of injuries I always say listen? It's it's it's not always the case that it's the strength guy and that it's his you know his fault right that players get hurt ralliers. There's get hurt. Sports players get hurt and there's a lot of reasons why they get hurt. We'll get into for sure I. I wanted just for those who really are not familiar because I feel like you you play more of a behind the scenes role with the team. Just explain yourself what what was your exact role with the guys you were there from do you the strength and conditioning coach from two thousand seven to two thousand fourteen fourteen. Just explain your role and how you got started with all that yeah so for me. I have a degree in sports medicine from the University of South Florida down in Tampa and grew up big Yankee Anky fan grew up on long island not too far from the stadium and ultimately the strength coaches responsible for on field performance not the the XS and Os and not the hitting that the pitching and not the outcomes in that in that regard but we are responsible for making sure that the players are ready to play every single day you you know they're strong. They're not carrying extra body fat there nutrition's in check we assist in the rehabilitative process when players get hurt and at the same time we work with every player you're on the team to pump them up and get them excited to play every single night because one hundred sixty two games. That's a lot of games spring training playoffs to grind it's to grind and there's a lot of transitions most emotionally and physically throughout the season. So what were you doing in your career before joining the Yankees and how'd you end up land yeah yeah well. I practically yeah pretty interesting. You know I decided again your kid. I decided to leave the Big Apple and had the Florida land of the palm trees but the reason reason I went to Tampa was because I knew the Yankees were they're smart so right from the jump. When I was nineteen years old I started as an intern with the New York Yankees and it was an unbelievable achievable story because you know here I just at the time it was steinbrenner field or legends field and I pulled up in my car and I'm literally literally taking pictures of players with flip phone through a chain link fence years this this was back in two thousand and four okay so I'm taking pictures through a chain link fence sending them home to my friends my family? I'm just amazed that it's February and it's eighty degrees and literally that day I ended up going back to an internship I was doing with the University of South Florida football and the head coach calls me in the office and says hey I wanNA talk to you. I think I'm about to get whacked and he says no listen. I got an opportunity for you. If you're interested did the head strength coach with the Yankees just called and he would love to have somebody there turning basically handing out water handing out towels and you know watching the weight room and nobody's in there I said as a matter of fact I just got back from there and I would love that opportunity so literally the next day I drive up the day before a parked a mile and a half away because I couldn't afford parking college kid and you know that day I pull up. I got a spot for myself. You know already reserved. I walk in the office. They say hey are you. Dana Cavalier Lisa Yeah they throw credential on my neck. It's gotta see for Clubhouse in an F for field access. They throw me in you know Yankee gear and next thing you know the same picture field. I'm taking a picture of a day earlier now. I'm in the middle of that field. My life changed the real. That's all that's too quick one day. Okay Hey dirk and I have an autograph your water and here I am you know or you know a few years earlier. I'm I'm at the shoe store by Derrick jeeter sneakers because it was the cool thing to do and you're nice school at the time so it was a really quick transition and it was an amazing ride you know from that point had to cut my teeth as an intern. I didn't know a whole lot but I was able to Jason Giambi called it well get baptism by fire jumping and you'll figure it out took over and just a few years though right so yes yeah yeah yeah so in nineteen years old. That's when I got an internship position but just a few years later you know there was a rash of injuries and I got promoted. I went to Brian cashman sweet down in Texas. Phil Hughes was throwing a No hitter through seven hundred twenty hurt him hurt his hamstring in Texas hot night the the next morning again cash calls me into a suite which was palatial and he says listen. I WanNa make you the interim head guy. Would you have any interest in that and I I say it was like my Jerry Maguire. Moment I walk out and I'm like holding myself together not going to believe this and that was the real point of transition you know in my career but but I we'll say that internship and getting to know the players you know who they were and having nothing to lose is a nineteen year old kid. That's set me up for success down down the road. Who was the first guy as an intern the a player that came up to you introduced himself that you developed some sort of relationship yeah so the first player I've ever had a relationship with when I first started was homer homer Bush okay okay but the player that helped me was my gateway player to get everybody else was actually hip Asada pretty good one yeah and he's one of my best friends to date and when you get Hor hey there's a package deal that comes with that you also get Derek jeter and when you get Derek jeter you get everybody right so so it was an amazing ride and hey I remember we were in the back of a clubhouse in auxiliary clubhouse in Chicago playing the White Sox and it was just me and him and he he says hey listen this winter would you doing? I said nothing really of any plans. He says I want you to come down to Miami. I'm getting older and I need somebody on me every single day making sure training right stretching me taking care of my tissue work all of that can you do it and I said Yeah So. He put me up on Miami beach here. I am like twenty three years old right. I have the opportunity of a lifetime and that relationship got really tight and there was another player that also lived in Miami Alex Rodriguez together we were able to I formed a relationship with both of those guys and from that point it was it was it it was amazing pretty good so obviously two hundred nine you know they win the world series and you're a big part of that. What stood out to you for that? You still have the ring of Yeah Yeah I would never. Do you ever take that off. You know what most of the time it's I always say. It's in my underwear drawer so okay. I brought it to that yeah. I figured it was it's fitting for the show yeah and also don't forget it's our ten year anniversary which is by now feels like Oh yeah just like two years ago right right but so what stood what's your from that two thousand nine team from the other years because obviously they had won the world series since two thousand going inside a little drought similar to the drought. They have right now yeah yeah so what stood out to you well you know that year what we were just getting into the transition between Joe Torry and Joe Girardi Joe took over Girardi took over the year prior prior right but that year we had signed see Safia and we also signed. Aj Burnett one thing I learned early in my career from Joe Torry was pitching and defense wins championships tips to share as well to share as well right so so techs unbelievable defensive player and you've got to really strong arms that came in right in Asia so right there. It's like hey pitching. Defense wins championships. It's two thousand nine you typically need three starters to win right right and we just picked up two horses in addition to having a depended who was what we call old faithful when game two comes around you want Andy Pettitte on the mauser and you knew it was going to be a lock so that was the difference you know we had Nick Swisher who brought a different vibe and energy to the clubhouse that was very atypical of Yankee Culture Culture which was very quiet subdued and traditional you know he came in last in the music and making everyone in a loosen up a little bit so you had a mix of new talent Alan and old champions coming together and you had some guys those new those new editions had not one before so there is a hunger that because you have a quote from Your Book Habits of champion You have a quote never get too high never get too low. Yeah I took that from Derek jeters Nick Swisher. Go against that yeah you you know what the here's the thing right so swish he he was such a momentum player definitely goes against that but it was also one of the things that would sometimes get him a little bit of trouble because you get so high and so excited that on the way down his energy would come with it and everything else would go with the two but actually got that quote from Derek jeter never gets you high. Never get you too low and that's what you see somebody that totally and same thing with moe and same thing with a lot of those hall of fame type players they never got so excited and they never ever crashed. It was always even if they went over four or four four you had you never knew their disposition was always the same was their unique feeling being in the clubhouse all season long. Did you just feel like this is a team of destiny. I remember that year. I mean all the walk off Wednesday. Walk down. I'm thinking all the new guys state. It was like everything is just coming together with quiet confidence all season where something special is happening. I think we knew we were a good team but but ultimately we also scuffled a little bit there. There was a transitional meeting that took place in Atlanta and you know Brian Cashman led that meeting he started off by saying listen. You know this isn't a panic Hanoch meeting but we're going to have a meeting and talk about where we are right now and honestly from that point forward that that was when we really blasted off and everybody got together and started moving in the same direction. We always say we have a saying the equipment guy with the Yanks Rob Kacoos is a good friend of mine and he always says listen when you have more players in in the cart then pulling the cart. You don't have a very good chance to win but that meeting would did was cash basically gave everyone a little bit of a smack in the rear and said hey everyone out of the cart grab hold and let's pull this thing down the field and from that point we did and every player picked each other up there was also one more transitional moment and that was in September timber. We were playing the Toronto Blue Jays and there was a pitch that was throwing it jorges facade and you can go back and see the video and he tells the pitcher. I don't know Dunbar maybe last night and he says don't do that don't do that and he was a very juiced up player. In a lot of ways very excited and literally he was coming around the you've got the first and he was trying to score from second pitchers coming to cover the plate. He's nowhere near Georgie and Georgie reaches out with his arm and hits them so what happens benches clear that was the moment that pushed us through September and the first coach. I've worked under Jeff. Mangle was in the first rank coach teams come together. When there's a fight for I mean you could make that comparison with this year's team with the whole savage thing that's happened earlier in these not September number but it's you know to this point carrots to where we are and brought everyone together so that helps for sure but you mentioned that to very interested so that that braves cashman speech? What do you have any more details what what into that yeah you know it was it was ten years ago okay but but the one thing I'll say about cash is is he? He never puts anyone down right. It's it was uplifting was a motivational. It was saying guys here's where we are but here's where we should be right and and and I really believe at that moment the guys believed it and he talked about. He's not afraid to talk about players. He's very upfront very upfront and that's what makes them so amazing right but telling hey I brought the best talent in so we could win and that's what we went out to do right after you hear that everybody's sort of check themselves and and that moment you you recommit to each other and that's what happened you could tell that that message just went right to everyone's no one was not paying attention. Yeah okay here we go yeah because we knew we were better than we were playing and and it was like all right we kinda needed that little kick in the butt and you know listen you hear your managers voice almost every day. You hear your coaches voices almost every day but you don't hear your. GM GM very often right so that was that was a powerful moment for us very interesting. What was it like just that night winning the world series against the phillies and then into into the parade? You just described those that night those next few days well I always say the one image I have in my mind is Marta Shera. Who is a total pro? Throw down at one oak after we won the world series with two bottles of champagne goggles on his head going absolutely beserk so it was an amazing it was an amazing mazing ride but you know for me the moment that like as a kid I watched all those championships I watched ninety six and that will run so to now now be a part of it Chris and sitting literally a standing on the top deck you know with my hands on on on the Dugout fencing that was that was amazing L. standing right next to Andy Pettitte Andy Cans me they handed out these cameras that were like disposable cameras at the time and he's like hey do me a favor. Can you capture these moments for us so so I got so excited after that when that ground ball is hit that I ended up just drop in the cavern and it was like one of those things. Are you know a couple of days later came in you got that camera subdued but but it was you know when when what we we talk so much about winning winning and success that was it right that's it's where we peaked all of that work all of those meetings all of those trials and tribulations everything that everybody faced that year from the front office all the way down. That's the moment that was the moment that we were playing for see obviously you were a part of both stadiums yeah so what was the biggest difference moving into the new stadium winters of facilities because being strength condition coach all these shiny new toys. GotTa be a good thing for you. Yeah well listen. I I got a chance to renovate the old stadium weight room on design and how I wanted and then I actually got to be very involved in the whole process of designing the new that's training facility so so you know I I'd like to say I had made my mark in both places but but it was amazing the one thing that the players valued the most believe it or not was that there was much more restricted access to the media in the new stadium so they were able to kind of put their hair down more and the stadium was so spread out underneath that there were so many places to go and hide and even get some private time because as a player you have media around you. You have agents around you. You have financial guys around you have have player. Everyone's always around so it's very hard to find some peace and quiet for yourself I when you think back to different guys on that team is there anyone that stands out that just had weird workout kowt routine or a weird habit where like ask for help within your S- like what what are you doing man yeah every player's quirky you know like talk about Iraq right as a as an example most players. You don't WanNA listen to pump some pumped up music. kyw's listen rabs some guys. Will you know you know put it into pieces but he wanted to actually listen to Pat Bene- tar you know hit me with your best shot cranked up. He was super excited for so every guy's got his own weird routine Andy Pettitte on Game Day. We used to have to play the rocky soundtrack. Stop right there. These are the highest performing athletes fleets in the sport and this is what they do in order to get ready and get prepared to play so every player had their own quirks to them. Well what do you is there or anyone that stands out besides those two. You all remember just being like what Derek have anything crazy now he was. He was pretty pretty standard. Pretty Standard Wisher Swish you switch was when he was on a roll. He do a lot of training okay but as soon as he kind of went went cold sometimes he pulled back a little bit he was very on and off off nick. You know so so it's hard to say who had anything really quirky. There wasn't in terms of like Laura offer you know off the rails was there during spring you come in different mentality some guys. They're really grind some guys you know they have their roll cut off them ready and they can just relax or anyone who really like half asked like spring training like in terms of like getting ready yeah. You know it's interesting because a lot of times the veterans are the ones that actually do that but they don't do it to be lazy. They do it because 'cause they know how long the season is so. We always used to say you know you'll always have one or two spring training hall of famers. They're typically younger guys guys guys that get their first shot and they wanNA give it their all and you say wow this guy's amazing but oftentimes they don't make the big league club or if they do you there already backed down and four weeks. There's always that that sort of player but the great players they pace themselves and they've done it before so saying that we used to also also use is act like you've been there before act like you've done it before. Catch was with the veterans be like look this kid trying so hard going balls to the why you'd see you would see it every year. Yeah I roll and the biggest thing is like for me think about it. I'm in charge of conditioning these players you know a lot of these guys. They don't WanNa be running and you know you're not liked coach during spring training so what they would always try to get the young guys that want to run to the front of the pack and there's a guy like pushing pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing guys like hey man slow it down in front a little bit you know they they wanna be that pace car but we gotta keep facing check so you mentioned. CCC Scene Garner the only to carryovers from that Oh nineteen to nineteen what what you say about their workout routines and just what they were like listen. I always say this. You know any player that's played over ten years has figured it out. You know so you know Brett. Gardner is not a big weightlifter. When he takes his shirt off? You'd think he's unbelievable all right in terms of you know his physique and what he does but but you got also remember that these guys are hand selected best in the world you know so you're dealing with a hand selected population that comes with so many natural talents and so many natural tools so guy like Brett Gardner he works really hard in the cage he works really hard on his defense he works really hard on the mechanics of base running but not a big weightlifter right so hello and then with a guy like CCA you know there's always a lot of talk about his weight. That's always been the big thing. John's got bad knees because of his weight listen. He's a big guy. He's six five. He's he's a guy that carries more weight and carries more body fat than the average player and oftentimes when we would try to trim them down what would happen. Is You trim. I'm down some of his confidence and he felt like you were trimmed down his fastball at the same time so I always said when when you talk about a player in their body you gotta take a lot of things into consideration you gotta take in their body fat. You GotTa take in their weight. You gotta take in their circumference how big they actually are and you gotta take how they feel and you gotta take in their performance and it's a balance silence of that equation not just one because if guys playing well and feels good but he's overweight. What's it matter right now? Getting the wins twenty thirteen not the best year. You know things just didn't go our way. Do you think you were kind of made out to be like the scapegoat there. I really don't hold all will will or anything. No you know what what's what's interesting about baseball and anybody that spent some time in it as a coach or player my philosophy is this the day you start you flip an hourglass us and that's any coach by the way you turn and we don't know how fast the San move sometimes. It's very slow and other times it speeds up when there's a lot of injuries I know for for me as a strength coach especially in the soft tissue side Hamstring Groin lattes and things like that cavs I would start to be worried that that sand I and was speeding up whether it actually was or wasn't in my mind that was speeding up so I don't look at it as a scapegoat. I look at sports at the professional level as a business. That's right and you have to have a reason why something is not working and sometimes it ends up. Being you know somebody that you have to take out you. Eh SORTA fast forward now six years later. I like this twenty nineteen team could use you they. They got out something. What have you ever seen anything like this rash of injuries yeah? You know what here's the thing I I was actually talking to Sweeney murdy a couple of weeks ago about this and for me. I never you can't point the finger at one person right because again. We don't know exactly what these players are doing all the time but what would you have always look at his trends right so if you see a repetitive repetitive injury hamstring hamstring hamstring hamstring calf caffe caffe caffe Oblique Oblique Oblique Oblique you can at that point work backwards a little bit but here's the thing right right what I was used to say is this as a strength coach. We know the exact volume and the exact program that we are giving our players right does a hitting coach know how many swings a player takes every single day they don't. They don't know how much tea work you know. The players took how much soft toss cage. BP and live EP so until you can get all the facts right. We're in a data game now. We've got an all the data right all the analytics we don't know how many swings a players taking per week and that compounds per month and over the course of the season so you got these high performing athletes right they're stronger than ever ever they are more powerful than ever and now they're doing a lot of high velocity volume work right so you have all these leaks happening how much of these players swing winging taking batting practice every day I was used to say and I still say if you can't hit by September. You can't hit how much need right so there's not oftentimes times teams are pulling back and saying hey no today or no cage work right. That's an unmonitored activity same thing with throwing immune pads up. It's interesting though because they have really hammered didn't like more than any other team no relief pitcher goes three days in a row and like I guess aside from Delon one that really has held true any relief injuries. Let's just going through my head right now like that's interesting way of like rest like that. That has to play a part. Do you believe that like there's needs to be a certain amount of time taken off one hundred sixty two game season yeah. I think it's different for every player yeah right so the one question that I always ask players is how do you feel today and I'll ask him the same question an hour later in an hour later these guys I always say they're like Formula One cars in every lap they take around anything could happen. They don't feel the same at the end of the lap they do when they start the lap right. Sometimes it can go three laps and feel good. The fourth is the problem. How often would guys be honest with you and be okay? I I need a day. They don't feel great or was. It always like I'm good. I'm good to go to them yeah. Well you know in my era. Let me say this in the seventies and eighties guys couldn't couldn't say they need a they need a break. It wasn't it wasn't appropriate right or even the nineties you know but once cal ripken took a seat. I think guys started to you realize the importance of saying. Hey you know what if I played today. It's probably not a good idea because I'm going to get a setback so players became much more open much more vocal about what they needed in order to perform at a high level as the years went on and now it's the same thing players feel comfortable asking for a day. Do you think Jacoby Ellsbury is pushing it a little bit by saying he's like three years it. You know it's interesting man. Sometimes you don't know actually what's going on transaction really you know there may be some things going on between him and the front in office and him and his agent the front office yeah so so we never know all the details and that's that's the one thing I learned when I was just a fan right in high school. I I used to get so pissed about certain things how this guy's not playing sure why why's cashman doing this but when you get into business and you realize it again it is a real business. It's just the business of sports and the business baseball you start to realize why things happen. Why players sitting right now you know? There's things that we don't oh no. Maybe there's a trade being set up. Maybe the players hurt but they don't WanNA deal. You know there could be all sorts of hun is a lot of behind the scenes transactional work so you have your book. it habits of a champion. Nobody becomes a champion by accident. Tell us a little bit about the book it came out last September correct correct yeah last September and I just actually released a kids book too but but that book Abbott's of a champion I mean listen. I was fortunate to work next to some amazing easing people again from front office to players you have a chance to learn some pretty incredible lessons from some pretty incredible people that have to perform on a pretty large stage so what I wanted to do as a coach always reading books about Personal Development self-help Growth and coaching but I'd read a lot of these books and they were perfect perfect world situations. These weren't always written by people or writers that spent any time in the field in the trenches in the real life situations so I wanted wanted to take what I learned from my players what I teach my players and put it into a book that works more like a handbook as opposed to just a one time flip through read and that's what habits habits of champion is. It says nobody becomes a champion by accident. That's the subtitle because it's true if anyone ever knew the amount of work that players put in mentally really physically nutritionally from a rehabilitation standpoint they would be amazed they would tip their cap to these guys allow more than they do and I always say to you can't forget forget when you turn the TV off at eleven o'clock a lot of times. We're getting ready to head to the airport an hour later and jump on a flight possibly to Seattle possibly to Oakland so so there's a lot of variables here that that determine a player's ability and a player success. Can you give us an example of one of these lessons yeah so so you know one one lesson that I learned again. Go back to to Derrick jeeter. Buddy always says if somebody doesn't respect your time they don't respect you. So you know a guy like jeet. He would work out with me Monday. Wednesday Friday like clockwork three o'clock. That was his time slot. If he was running two minutes late he'd Kolya Elia right so so his big thing was about respect. That was a big big word for him because if somebody doesn't respect you they don't they don't actually really respect themselves right so that was a big that was a simple lesson on people right in the game baseball you got a lot of different heads a lot of different people around but it's so important award in order for a team to win. There has to be a level of respect for each other right so that's a very a very simple lesson that was in the book so Yeah No. It's definitely never be late for never be later or that's it. No more no more dinner I saw also the a-rod pretty much credited like all of his health and success us to you pretty much so so the thing with Al Alan I have developed a pretty good relationship through the years. Just you know he was one of those players. Usually when you're dealing with a player that's six foot four plus plus and over two hundred and thirty pounds their bodies require a lot of maintenance and a lot of work so the strength coach spends a lot of time without player so how how I mean we'd be stretching multiple times a day doing soft tissue work make it your hips or mobile and open so he could generate the power generate so yeah Alex and I have a really a great relationship seems like you built a lot of great relationships with a lot of great players and I'm sure they take care of you. What's the best gift you ever got from a player man outside side of some checks it? was you know it's going to sound you interesting to say this but my father was a guy. That's like a Jew. Make sure you get your pictures with these. These guys make sure but but that was never something that meant a lot to me. Lament the best gift was when they keep calling you like before we started the show. I said you nausea dinner two weeks ago with Andy Pettitte right you know I was talking to Alex yesterday. what what better gift than that right I mean ultimately these are these are superstars of the game right when you think of. MLB These are names that are going to be with that forever Marian Rivera being able to go to his house. You know have launch talk talk right so these are the gifts that keep on giving so check great the the second best gift next to the having obviously these relationships ships is is what I wear on my right hand which is world series ring to be able to win a championship with the core four and even have your name at the roster on the roster even though it's way at the bottom it's still on there so so that's cool you know what I mean. I'll always remember this and it was a magical moment and we'll see what happens this year. I hope they just stay more healthy. I I can't do this. Whole one guy comes off? The one guy goes back on the ideologist. I know I'm losing yeah. No it drives. I know it drives fans crazy but I'm telling on you more so than than driving you crazy those guys that are underneath that are at CHR- credited with keeping these guys healthy it drives is us crazy even more yeah we gotta get the food all away from somebody because someone has it's real it's real when there's so many injuries like that to the players ever like look at the strength and cushioning stuff to be like hey man. What are you doing you know I think what I'll say is? This most players have a really good relationship with the strength coach so they're not looking at bury you unless you're a real jerk work. They'll turn on you if you're a real jerk but but most of the time the strength guys are pretty cool guys that get what the players have to endure and what they have to go through so they're not looking at their now. Look into to bury a strength and think about it. It's a team so you're not looking to take down the guy that's trying his best to keep you healthy or trainers that are doing their best to keep you on the field. The players aren't gonNA AREN'T GONNA turn on u unless unless you turn on them you know for me. I'll I'll say this. I was always players coach so it was always you know you gotta keep a lot of things between the players that are meant to be between the players so player coaches that don't coach like that players tend to go out a little bit more yeah so you're you're working out still. You probably need some tips yeah so I was GONNA say. I passed like month two months. I've been trying to trying to get Rep China. Yeah yeah come back back in hurt my back so I wanNA know. What can you tell me some workout tips basically just wanted to do? I got some man tits trimmed down a little bit like built some biceps I steps and we get some broader shoulders some lattes in general like how much should I be working out how often ordinance diet for anyone like me out there. Well someone like you right. You're you're are naturally skinny guy so there's a lot of that sometimes because actually skinny goes act naturally skinny guy could tell just by looking at your wrist structure right you have you have have you do an analysis on feminist. We're going to judge a light risk vote so we so we look at those things right to see how much mass you can hold so you're not what you're never going to be. A high mass guy naturally okay so there are some places that you can go to accelerate your process but ultimately you're asking. Is We gotta get you enough what I say. If you want to build a five thousand square foot house you gotTA show up with enough would so most guys one thing they don't do is taken enough calories calories to build the House that they wanna built okay so if you get on a good strengthening routine right that's five to six days a week. Okay Okay and you're taking in in enough protein and you're taking in enough carbohydrate to drive the performance over time not a week not two weeks but over about eight to twelve weeks wchs you can start to see some good gains. The problem is most people they take in enough food today and a little bit tomorrow non-consistent yeah a little bit a lot a little bit a lot in Yoyo and then when you look at what they're eating. It's a lot times high fat food in high carbs and they're not taking in enough protein to build the body. I had so much protein at take about nine. I had some grilled chicken a ham sandwich and a proto protein shakes protein would you would you have for lunch Salad Alad okay. What's the Moussa Meg White's okay so so for you right? It's like you took in a majority of your protein probably at one meal yeah. We want to spread had that out over about six meals throughout the delk so it's so it's going to be hard because again. You're naturally a burner right. You know what I'm saying. I'm looking to get like oh needs to be like bulky. I just want to basically maybe more toned like what I do. have toning it up a little bit so is that if you're going to want more than tone women tone okay men men put on size and they get strong and they put on lean mass. I gotta eat more basically and full body workout. Every time I hit the gym well for you guys that are trying to get more size your body response when you put the muscle under tension so for you I would not do total body. I do more of a traditional bodybuilder split right so you're going to do like chest and tries back and buys and then you can do shoulders and legs together okay and then you're going to repeat that over and that's going to be your cycle so you're going to work six days a week Sundays. We'll be your off day and then you do it again. Put together a nice a nice plan to me. I hope I brought this up as a joke and now you're like and you're just for you. Well listen enough serious said if you if you wait trained properly you won't need the cardio when hear me hear me out. If you do any kind of cardio it should be more anaerobic sprint based fan base work because of too much cardio will go down even more all right so we gotta get some size is on you but we're not going to do that if we do too much cardio all right. Hey No. That's that's good look. There's I'm sure a lot of our listeners. Look pretty similar to me. I don't think that many bodybuilders so anyone listening to me that they want to. They want to tone up leaned. They don't want to tone up. They want to build WanNa build lean lean lean we call it lean bulk mass so along with great interview Tommy just changing exercise yeah yeah that we kept pretty top. Get into some detail fantastic denied. I thank you so much for coming in hope that God we actually start knocking her and we can win a world series but I appreciate come an awesome to hear your inside with everything. Thanks guys absolutely Dana Cavalieri. This is John Sterling. You've been listening

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Episode 155: Dellin Is A Met, Hubbs Got Christmas Cucked, And Phil Hughes Interview

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Episode 155: Dellin Is A Met, Hubbs Got Christmas Cucked, And Phil Hughes Interview

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I can't tell you like I thought it was a prank. A thoughts explained for the people at home so I now live in New York City so I wasn't able to much Christmas shopping there and like you know like the schlepping here. It's just the whole hassle so I came on December twenty third Monday and I was like okay. Great we're going to get into the car and then I'm gonNA drive around and figure out idea. My mom have been dropping hints that she wanted to. TV sixty five inch really. Yeah well there's four K.. TV's Roku and all that bullshit great because the living room TV is spending money. She's she's like when they all save for get it. I was like all right fine all figured out. I didn't say it's alright so I went to best buy today and was by the way it. It took an hour one full hour for someone to help me every place. I go where I don't semi twenty-third like everybody and everybody's nobody's Christmas show. But every time I go to a store at any point I get harassed when I walk in and I don't WanNa talk to you the one time I wanNA talk to somebody. No everyone's everyone's busy doing so eventually. Find a guy and Online was the the sixty five inch. TV that that was perfect. It's all I needed. Has All the things she wants she would love it. I go to the store. They only had the fifty five. Don't need I don't want to be. I want to sixty five so Had them order it in the store and they were like Oh we can go to twenty six. I'm like great twenty-six is fantastic because my family. We're all that belated gifts whatever. I got like all all my birthday gifts like three days when I saw the biggest deal and I'll still be here going home and few days after that. So great fantastic. I ordered it. Whatever paid done great? Don't have the guy with few other really small like gifts this show also really like but I got the big one of the way. Don't worry about shit today. Wake up just this land bed watching and Harry Potter going on it just hang out relaxed and then what happens around. I don't even. What was it? Twelve thirty she comes then and she's so happy she's like you won't believe what just happened. What mom what happened she goes she goes a the guys names ash and he's like Asked me a TV for Christmas. Mike what she gave me a sixty five inch. TV for Christmas. I'm so happy happy to offer one. I'm GonNa Watch released like she's like Star Wars on tonight. We Watch Star Wars all day on this new TV from from again. So what you'd say go ahead. I was like ashes boyfriend. Yeah Yeah and I it in my head was literally on fire like the gift with all the everything's burning cowbell things by. Oh that's great. I'm sure I gave the most happy for you. What that I'm so happy for you? It's it's exactly like pretty much that I have. You be fucking kidding like Wassot. WHO gives gifts and Christmas Eve afternoon? Yeah that's nuts. That's the craziest part. May Be the whole story each insane. It's like look on Christmas. It's not even Christmas Eve. It's Christmas Eve debt. Yeah like a family. Got An argument like a couple of years ago because my sister wanted to open gifts Christmas Eve night and that was an argument. This is like before noon on Christmas. The safe it's like something really. Oh you're an idiot for ordering for December twenty six. Hey Pal. I wasn't gonNA give it to our Christmas so the same situation would have just happened. I I would've had the hidden somewhere or to be delivered on Christmas Day. And and she's here. Say It could sane. I got caught. I on Christmas Miss Gift Card and I don't know what to do. I just don't i. It's not even killing exchange it yet like it's a sunk cost right now. I can't even get it and bring. Yeah I mean how much can I ask how much it was. It was like five hundred bucks a lot of money. I mean you said your new apartment. No that's not what I WANNA do. Spending gives them myself I haven't TV. We have like Shelvin. TV's me apartment. Ever to its we have too many. TV's and the the process of getting that to the city would be a disaster. I think your your biggest Alpha move here is you just be like look. I already bought you a TV. I'm your son. Tell asked to get you something else. And then that's just what you do so this actually hasn't come up yet in the story story last year. Use it for her birthday. I just realized this is actually insane. Either birthday or last Christmas I got her one of knows Alexis. Yeah he got her a Google home. I didn't I just haven't actually realized that until divert Eric it's this isn't this crazy. WHO GOT IT FOR I O? She uses mind like she loves the electrical. Yeah she likes the Alexa also but actually I think she uses both. I think one is in her bedroom and the kitchen but I I don't know who got I don't know I. I think it was like a tie last year. But this is I have no. I don't even know when delights held her that I got TV twitter like she can read the blog or anything anything trump. She's out Christmas shopping and do a bunch of shits but so it will probably come up. I think she falls instagram burner account. Okay okay Yeah I don't know if I tell her today if I tell her today then she's going to feel bad. I don't WanNa feel a bat. But and then she'll be like at least she can enjoy for few days. 'cause she's GonNa keep that. TV Mom out luckier on issues. Not Let that TV up yet. No it's in the boxer staring me in the fucking. I'm telling you you got just you just got a you got to be like. This is my gift and like asked to get you something else I think I I think I have to. I'm going to get a screwdriver. Fuck with the wires and then when he turns on. It's not gonNA work all what the doors ringing. This is great time Jamie I got I got you a TV. That actually works. I've debated just paying someone to rob my house. That's not bad. It's not a bad idea. It's it's really not you could take out and the Google home and em I burn. Take my birds. We don't yet expert Maybe like I Dunno unlike one necklace or some shit too so it's not completely obvious. Some some people were like you gotta fight him. He's like six five. He's enormous like a gentle giant. I'm not fighting. This is not gonNA happen. Some people said you need to buy a bigger TV. Yeah but I don't have the TV right now and Eric doesn't have enough money to buy two. TV's right I mean. Can you exchange this one for a the bigger on though I think I gotta go different route than the TV. I think I'm luckier. Well at least this time like she can no longer expect like you have like another weaker so to get our gift. I don't think so I gotTa de Fuck Today. I'm going to get the car back. And she wants grill. Apparently how much do grills costs. You could tell me grow cost ten thousand dollars. I believe you. Yeah I have no idea what to real cost. My sister said it causing four hundred bucks. I'm like well that's great. Like can you exchange a TV without getting it. I go to cancel this. Yeah probably we do that. I don't know a mom. It's it's just you go there explain it makes you just be like hey man like keep the TV for free like that. That's like you could just keep. This is your laugh me out of the building. I also what I'll also probably do is when an exchange at again her one of those sound bars all these. TV's like sound usually sucks solely. She'll have a quality sound. I think I think that's it's cheaper to surprise. Surprised saving some money. Not that I care about the money but just crazy just absolutely fucking insane. I thought I was like agriculture. Was GonNA come out and be like you're you're out you're unpacked like Gotcha no or like that was your TV. Someone said I should have just told my mom. No that's the TV that's my TV. That came to their. Oh Yeah you should that I guess ashes late Guy. Now you have to what you have to hate ash now. Yeah Yeah. Oh Yeah I mean. We're more lines. This point like Christmas. Dinner is ruined. Yeah and it was Christmas. 'cause the low Belle sent me steaks. And it's it's going to be unbelievable unbelievable dinner and now it's just route. I mean oh I is bullshit. I'm such a good had sun. And then the worst part here is I have to go to the mall today and hang in like park three miles away and like with all the people who were saving their second. Not that I did that too because I wanted the twenty third but like not Bisley and it's just bullshit I don't I don't know man I get whatever. At least it was a good blog and I'd continental hosts next episode right like he's just now the host of the short port it was the editor in chief a lot of fun with us. Yeah he can produce. Yeah I don't like this at all. He's a nice guy too but now I mean he just has to die you might maybe you just pee on TV dislike. Mark Your territory. I would put a baseball bathroom or something. uh-huh asleep sorry in someone just destroy your TV. That's really offered whether any good suggestions avery of what what I should do. Yes so we had Someone obviously there is a couple that said cut the cord And it'll just make you look like a hero Yeah Yeah Yeah I think I think that was the consensus that you should cut the cord or you should buy an IPAD with multiple subscriptions and draw the TV costs a lot of money. That's like subscriptions is should any prescriptions like net flicks Amazon. Have that already L.. That was the idea is. It's like a TV designed specifically for like Roku stuff so she can just click her stuff like on the TV instead of having the external Roku device and assist in is the worst part is. It's just sitting in the living room so anytime kitchen get water or anything. It just stares to me. It's like I was here. I fucking loser. It's terrible I don't know what whatever so. Yeah I mean today. It's it's insane that on Christmas Eve. There's one sports game it's the fucking Hawaii double and that's it like. It's almost like destiny that I have to like go do something and like you know peaky myself preoccupied. But I don't know all right. Let's move on to some actual topic here right before we started recording. Good timing on US Record Lord I guess but just signed a one year deal with the mets. So that sucks. I like to see what the money is. Not as a player option for twenty twenty. One I don't think the money Johnny is out yet but yeah I WANNA Delon back. Y- I mean it's very obvious. I think two things here either. His injury is is bad enough that he's GonNa miss a lot of time to start the year and like no that's not out yet or whatever because he did have an Achilles tear like. That's a very serious serious. Injury wasn't a full time job as a partial tear and in need surgery. But like I mean that's a big deal that could easily become a very big problem like there's already a picture him in a fucking can match Jersey and hat probably photoshop now no like he took it in front of his trade. Oh get the fuck Outta here go to. It's like the mets twitter tweeted it. Oh my God all the God what the Fuck I mean. What the fuck is that? Oh my got to. I mean if the I know this is a big. If but if the Yankees didn't get Garrett Cole this would be a disaster urban off season. Oh I mean suicide like actual Dell and both signed one year deals neither end up back to the Yankees role mine walks. They haven't addressed anything except for Garrett Cole I mean they did Resign Gardner obviously which is good but look I love Garrick. Obviously I'm glad we have them but the Yankees just ignoring every little every other thing is like Kinda what so passing says a one year deal player option for twenty twenty one best thing player option for twenty twenty two so I guess that will depend on innings. I'm assuming but money's not out yet. He said. The market was the market for potential so strong allowed the structure deal with upset and security. I mean confirm I liked don a lot like I don't know one can be mad about down here you know 'cause like it's very the Yankees just didn't want to sign him like they your his injury Well I guess it is possible. He just has a bad rainy Levin. It's never going to go away and like he wanted to have leverage. Whether it's I think I mean one person can't can't make that big the difference. I don't think probably I think the latter is that which is the true part? is they're going to get Josh Heater. I think they're just sit on Josh. I don't know I it just doesn't make sense to you. Let him go away like that for one year. Just doesn't really make sense. I don't really I don't get that money. unclearly not an issue when you pay Garner you paid coal everything this point. What's a few extra million dollars? Maybe it was the years they don't WanNa go past the year you guys player option Testing option to who knows The thing is how quick do you think They become they he becomes he comes closer and just is a disaster for them. Yeah I mean it's tough like I liked Alan but I'm I'm GonNa have to root against them now if all my heart and for the people who are like it it. It's a little more upset that he's leaving the Yankees the fact that it's for the mets. Yeah it sucks from New York so like I can't fault them for. I want to stay home right. No I'm not blaming him at all but I'm saying like met fans being like Ha- like we stolen like I don't really give a fuck about that like I wish it wasn't the match but I'm more just like upset that he's leaving the Yankees. Did you see his numbers against the mets career. Now thirty nine batters faced this triple slash. Oh fifty six six one zero five. Oh Eighty through twenty one got someone walk. He when he's on and this is for any mets fans. Listening here are tears. You're getting one of the best pitchers in baseball. When he's on like there's very few people who can match his best peak is ridiculous? Regulus like clothes gets though his what is like valleys or as low as guests when he's when he's not when he doesn't have it. You'll know immediately you'll know when he's like warming up and it's he never really gets hit heart if he's if it's a bad start you'll see like it's it's a one now walked four headed guy and then there was one double down the limit scored everyone. That's pretty much it like. It's never a string of hits with him. It's always just east as complete losses control troll. But when he's on he's like show good he just dances off the mound. He's like wiggling into his curveball. Drop from the sky is fucking fastball as painting the black. He's when he's on his really. Not many really pitchers out there. That are better but he's never gonna be able to cold for you. He just doesn't have that mentality. Maybe the Yankees. He's like pressure. Maybe he'll be different. The mets I jury still out with that but when he built figure out a way mess him up they won't use them correctly or something. Yeah yeah the probably due to winning bullshit like it was. There was that stretch where they They they really try to force him to pitch multiple innings and then They did it was really good in that fucking wild card gaming. It's the as he was incredible post-season who's great but the pills before that. He was disaster so like he was unusual unusual in that two thousand seventeen playoff on us going into two thousand eighteen. We didn't know if Delon was still good pitcher. Yeah he's truly jekyll and Hyde. But Damn it's just gonNA be weird seeing him out there and the mets bullpen. You Assume Diaz cannot be that as bad as he was last year. That's what I said. Let's hope let's hope he is. Yeah but odds are it's pretty hard for Diaz Infante to be as bad as they were then you add to that and Lugo and it's like well that's actually a decent package still not close to what we have but it's a decent it's better than last year I mean the Yankees Bullpen. Last year was still like you know the the best in baseball without dylan except for one inning right right right in Britain keenly green and judge. That's still what no charge. That's still like a killer five. Yeah for show for sure. And they're going to add one more. I don't know if it's going to be like this Tim. Hill Guy Daniel Hudson still after one if they take a stab at him he was great for the nationals. Great yet what could be I. I don't know if he's going to get bigger contracts. He's got that world series champ. Think he will. He's thirty two assume he's a little older. I mean I don't know part of me thinks that you just keep hearing Josh Hader Josh haters like well what is it. Realistic cost. Get Josh It's Debbie who. I'm pretty much losing confidence in by the day partly because he's not going to be relied upon in the future turnout gear coal in the mix to beat at starter that like saved us. He's no longer you know we don't need that. I keep hearing mixed reports issue starters. You believe her what's going on with control it's like maybe we should do this. It's almost like Jeb Garcia and this could expose easily but I'm getting very similar vibes vibes to Esteban Floral. Where Floreal got so much hype for his first couple of years in the minors and then eventually he stay down there long enough that people realize like? Oh Oh this guy's is actually is not good at baseball. I mean he's just like a disaster and Debbie's not there yet. Debbie showed amazing signed last year. Be also like wasn't consistent enough. I don't know I just get a little the little over hype scare with Debbie Garcia to the point. Where if he was in a Josh Hater? Trey wouldn't really bad not josh. Here's four years or team control. He is show valuable. So it's Debbie it's like Javed. Let's say Medina Law. Let's say clint. I'd probably fucking do it. Yeah I would do that. I don't want to give up and you're probably not. I know that's so Yankee delusion to knock you up and for hater but I just love his potential and and you know when you have such a good bullpen already. I don't know if I want to give it up for a guy who could blow out his army day now. I don't think the brewers would want and Har because he would have to play the fueled fueled yeah. I don't know if you're telling me Debbie Clint and another prospect. I'll do it. Yeah I mean I mean just don't trade king or Schmidt because our boys that would suck. Yeah I would do that I think I hate her also. Has that ability like if Chapman goes down for a little bit which he tends to do a week or two like there's no longer I feel like he just slide hater in there that's a no-brainer like right. Natives leaders are calling threaten. Couldn't do it. I think consistently I think probably really like him in like that. Andrew Miller old role where you could just have Andrew Miller in for you know what he'd like to winning six and seven or whatever like the Indians used him like. He's that type of pitcher hater. Ideally Yeah and the argument most important outside necessarily glass throughout the bones with him is that he's a lefty and he brings the aside from Chapman. There's we don't have a guy who can just come in and and get a few left these out like but but he's more of the eighth inning. I'm a guy who can land rover around. Maybe yeah you know so who who knows That would be yeah. That'd be something that'd be awesome it fuck you acquisition. So we'll see It's definitely suck so that that picture will pitch down by Christmas. Tree will haunt me. I am happy for him because I he had a very injury. Prone year and it sucked for the timing very similar with Didi You know like contract. You're and all that but whatever the met that sucks They'll probably using the wrong way and then he'll leave after. Come back to the Yankees and be really good again. So that's the that's the whole I guess moving on. That's really the most Yankee stuff like we like of news that it was very quietly for the most part Difficult Yankee if you guys didn't know that still really cool that happened Other than that A Berry that guy on twitter right after we pretty much. We're done with break Because someone was shitting on us and I I was like we were both in like a fighting. Move your text. Each other like like faulkner's combative mode at night. Sometimes you just got to like get in the mud with these people. It's fun it's fun and I usually don't do I usually like I'm just I. It's just too much work and now fuck this but I I notice she was talking Shit I think his name's Frankie Marco or something. I don't fucking know but he's begged me to vote on twitter. which is such a weird move? I feel like onto just like hey do for fallback be creative on twitter that I liked your work. That's never i. I was confused by people who New York police following back like. Why we WANNA do suck people named Frankie just suck? That's okay yeah but anyways So we call that guy. Apparently he's hated by a Yankees twitter and he's like a scumbag and all that so we actually were doing. God's work it seemed like What else does it? There was the baseball quarterback going on from that guy in CBS CBS. Sports which I don't think I should have really been in the first place. I definitely don't think I should've beaten Phil Hughes like he's much funnier than me But I did I took down. Heyman was like fucking seeing things so I went to twitter and I see John Hayman. Tweet congrats at borstal hubs. What world are we living in the little guy to shoot on him all the time? Yeah talk on my foot. Would you say Charlie Horse in my left foot home is now Haymond follows me so I guess I don't hate him as much he's annoying. I don't hate him. He's just his twitter. Just tweet anything new. But he breaks every Boris deal but before the break. It's always like the same bullshit. Yeah I think that's just because he's gotTa do Scott. Boris is like propaganda form but if he gets a big scoops like that's the price you gotta pay. Yeah I guess Some people like Oh my God. If you lose losing something you lose the Heyman. You should delete her twitter. Yes six hundred thousand two hundred dollars. What are you talking about like like he broke the biggest signing of the offseason? All all of them he broke coal and Strauss per hour and probably. Yeah so Yes that's called an average average era. Be shocker the Red Sox fans didn't vote for me no way It was actually closer. Thought it was fifty two knows it was like fifty eight forty two thousands worse than that but whatever fish for classic cues move to just get into a tournament you don't deserve to be in. And then the making the final four just a classic Syracuse basketball. They're moving on okay so we had this any refill used for you guys Feels Great So we definitely didn't talk about me beating him in baseball That definitely wasn't brought up but it's a good interview Feels the best. He didn't call from starbucks this time in the calls from his home. That was good another positive there. But we'll fill before we get into the Phil Hughes interview. I WanNa talk to you guys about Indochino now Indochino. Excuse me was founded on the belief that you don't need to spend a fortune on a custom wardrobe. I mean we all want things to fit us. Well no one wants to look sloppy. 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So once again Promo Code Short Indochino thirty dollars off your total the purchase of three hundred ninety nine dollars or more and without further ado two thousand nine world series champion he tried the dunk on Jay Z. Once at a at a party till us we now welcome in a recurring guests to the short your porch. Two thousand nine world series champion Phil. Phil's going on maybe introduce baby. He's still he did the same thing last week when we introduce our producer. TJ TO REVAMP. What's up baby like just enough? WHO's Jimmy Garoppolo? Does that also your other people do that in the world. Yeah Whoa you're not Jimmy Garoppolo. Do you know that like I like. I'm not allowed to do that. Jimmy Garoppolo is like a very handsome. NFL quarterback who like banks porn stars. And your hopes all right Phil Phil. How's it going man? You never know what's going to stick until you try it. Yeah so we're we're testing out. I guess I'm not even doing it on purpose. It's just coming out so I have to be self conscious about this. Yes obviously fills with us He actually came on when we were at the old office. I think before even we were unofficial podcast and the network. You call this from starbucks last time. But there's actually an awesome interview and now you're recurring guests short board so we thank you for coming on again I think we should. I think we should hop into right away the biggest story of the offseason by far. Everyone's talking about it you know. It's it's everyone's writing about it. I took you down in the round of thirty two in the best baseball. Paul twitter bracket Forty four percent to thirty seven percent. Your thoughts first of all. I don't even know what that was. What wouldn't it out starts? The what what you get if you win the guy is still never answered me. Yeah I don't know a little a little bit of pride and whatever and it boosts your ego a little a bit but yeah there were twelve thousand two hundred sixty nine votes. I only re tweeted at once and I got forty. Somehow I have you know. It's like a cult following. I think I was kind of up against it but Congratulations thank you. Somehow I think I got the fourth most votes the entire bracket and the only people above me where like Rosenthal and pitching engine Karavas. So that's a sick. There's something wrong with that. I don't care I don't Care Talk Talk David Heymann I think is ironically getting votes right now. It is is truly impressive. I'm sure the the players and they laugh. Because everyone of his tweets are legitimately the same. They just changed one word around. It's crazy I mean he's just a Scott. Boris Mike so that he gets the big soup. So you know what I said. You GotTa do what you gotTa do. Villages quick question we would you trade your own World Series Ring to win this tournament like what do you think like. How much would you give up tournament? What do you think were I think last time we asked you? Would you go. Would you trade going viral four. And we'd like to find what viral was like five hundred thousand retweets on something. Would you go viral of an exchange for the ring. So we're GONNA keep asking because every time you come on we want your rings. Yeah I think I could get another one made even sweeter you know About the ring. Well well we'll take that part out of the equation ago. Yeah you know. The rings weren't weren't as they are now now ridiculous to make a bigger one now. They're worth like more than like home. So absolutely The actual big news. The season is that you're now a father. So Oh congratulations. Fill your father a lot of responsibility on your shoulders. How is how is dad life treating you? Oh it's great. It's awesome because he doesn't he doesn't do anything yet. So I'm just along for the ride you know you haven't really like faced the brunt of it yet. I guess changing diapers yet right right. Yeah Oh yeah I did. The I did the first one like the first home from the hospital. One Tar Yeah I got I got stuck with that bad boy. So what is what's his name Harrison Harrison Harrison. That seems like a guy who's GonNa be in the League. Ten years I think Harrison News Floating Harry Hughes. We can go short there Harry. Who's on the bump? I I like to be the next generation of disappointing half Ernest pinstripes. And he'll get a ring so it's totally fine. How're you sounds like a guy who pitched like three hundred fifty innings in the nineteen ten till his arm fell off and he liked got shot like mid game just catching a bullet wound is still there? I love sixty seven wins in nineteen. Those are the best the most outrageous thing I forget. There was someone last year too. I wrote a blog on. Yeah it it was red or he pitched legitimately like every single game the rest of the year because like all the other players like left the team to like go to war. And he's like all right on this to the playoffs and he just pitched every single and then he ended up dying like randomly like it as he opened a store after he retired and he just became like a hermit and just died like quietly without any family ending the story but it was really cool the amount he pitched in The other big news you know. Like oh all these starters pitch like five innings now and you get these these crabby old guys on twitter that are like Oh you know Howard Johnson. Yeah it's like you know are can't stand it but it's funny you mentioned people who pitched five innings. Well the Yankees decided to go out and sign someone who can pitch a little more than five innings. We hope at least the next nine on years the big news of the OSCE Garrett Cole Nine Years Three hundred twenty four million with the Yankees Just your your thoughts like finally the Yankees like Waking Ghosts of George Like Haunting Hal and all that and what would you think of the whole thing going on. That was my prediction is that is that go there. And it wasn't because it wasn't because of like he grew up a Yankee fan and you know cash drafted and you know all this other stuff. It was like you knew that he was gonNA take the biggest contract contract. And you almost felt like like cash wasn't going to get denied on this one. You know what I mean. Yeah I mean. I didn't think he was going to fly across the country. You know you you want to pitch for the angel. Sorry you just felt like he like cash wasn't GonNa lose this one yet. I I wasn't surprised I think it was a move that they had to make like you. You can't build The core that they have of like you know power hitters and you know the ability to score runs and then like not. Get that Guy So I I feel like if Cole is you know he does what he's expected to do and Severino's back and healthy. You know it might be a fun summer for you guys. Yeah should be fun nine years. Hopefully you said that you know kind of figured he's GonNa the Yankees offer the biggest contract some people that go. He's GonNa Angels because he's from there as a player. How much do you you think that narrative gets overblown where it's like guys? WanNa go home to play. Well it's it's so I don't know it's it's so particular to the person you know like everybody. Everybody thought trout was going to You know sign with Philly like why they don't there's no son in Philadelphia he gets to play county. A you know lives by the lives by the beach and you know he can take his private jet whenever he wants to watch an eagles game like Yeah so for some guys. I don't think that that matters and then you know for other guys. It's like you know. Oh I'm just GonNa take the biggest contract. I don't care where it is. Play on the moon for half a billion dollars. You know right So I think it's it's kind of all you know how that person feels and so many other factors to like your wife and kids and they're in school. Where do you want him to you? Know being during the summers and you know. There's there's lots to stop. That goes into it but for most guys I'll tell you it's It's it's the dollar amount I have legit. I mean obviously the money played into it and they offered the most money by far. It seems teams at least by twenty million. Maybe way more than that. Who knows? I heard it was thirty. Thirty million. Okay yeah so yeah. That's definitely a good chunk of change that separates it but also I mean he just I think he he. I've heard him in eighteen different interviews. I feel like say eight outs. He keeps saying that they're eight outs away. He was eight hours away from being a champion and I think that's legitimate bothering him. And he knows that of the teams available who were going after him coming to the Yankees and assuming that thirty five people don't get hurt next year. They're going to be unbelievable believable. And that's the best chance he has to win. Win a ring moving for win multiple rings and I think that really did play a part in it obviously the money too but I think he legitimate just wants to win a world series showmanship and he finally unlike other people who just don't chase rings. I guess they do chase strictly money I think that played a factor into and I agree you cash from the moment I I think. Cashman went on the embarked on that flight across the country. Like he wasn't coming back empty-handed he wasn't GonNa take the embarrassment of losing to like the angels Merano where the dodgers you know whatever it's and then you know they say it's how how authorizing the ninth year really changed everything so it's a good fucking time to be. Don't let me put together. You had to shave his face. Look like an investment bank. Yeah Hey he looks like Blake Shelton you know. He really wants to win if he's willing to go through soups. Yeah what is your take on having to save thing by the way so I think it's GonNa it's starting to get phased out already because if if you saw last year. He pretty much had like a beard. The whole just realized excuses just like did he. I mean part part of my anyways. I don't you know I don't give a fuck. Yeah yeah like he just like what are you gonNa tell me. You're GonNa find me or something. You're not going to do that and like I'm giving. I'm literally pitching out there until I can't move my arm and Mike. My unease throbbing in pain. You're not gonNA like bitch and Moan to me about me having a father of a little more than a five o'clock shadow so I think I think what Hal and hack now like you know the George passing. I think it's slowly but surely like becoming very more lenient and I think in a few more years like there won't won't be a thing I think like I like it from the perspective of like it gives us that little obnoxious Yankee Fan were so much more classier than everyone else. Because we don't have beards now. I'd be personally offended if the guy walked onto the man with the fucking beard. No absolutely not but I do like having that in our back pocket. We're still classy and professional. But I really don't don't care where you're the you're the derrick jeeter gators exactly no hill. Thank you thank you Phil. I didn't even think about asking them that. But you can see obvious jokes side. You can see the resemblance. Yeah the well there was a photo I think you posted and I would like. I thought it was Derek for a minute. I A lot of people listening. Talk before like. Oh it's going because it's like well. What's Derek doing on social media and a lot of people like phil must be being sarcastic Catholic deep down? I think he's telling the truth and I'm GonNa go to bed tonight. My head's GonNa hit that pill thing and Phil Hughes thinks look like Derrick. Jeeter I don't like that. I don't like what just happened to lot. Walk around. Yeah Yeah so much. It's like Oh Derek. It's no no not Derek like Tommy I. It's like awkward. And then I have to put on a good good front because like basically representing Derrick jeeter. If I do something stupid it's GonNa Headlines Him and then you're exactly exactly all the backlash for it. It's it's a nightmare Phil. I got a comment yesterday. It said I look like Roger Federer instagram. So I'm GonNa take that so Roger Federer Derrick jeeter and your host the short bursts. It's pretty cool knocking on better superfan or tweet he is my guy. I gotTA dictate the gambling on tennis and college. Kinda just fell like I just like by default like just started learning every single player and I always like fed gives you wears all black. And he's cool and yeah now I'm just pretty much obsessed with it and like I just met a requirement for get hired by far barstool degenerate Morelos Simon Requirements. It's like the personalities they seek. They just ended up being degenerates. It just works out that way like he liked the personnel is just fit fit that way but yeah an accidental. Tennis like Degener- At this point which just makes someone actually at the Christmas Christmas party. I think it was Carl. We're going through top five top ten like normal people barstool and you came to this. I'm like how is that possible. I watch tennis like in France like randomly on like a Sarah goes all right. Never Mind your top finally personnel in the company. So that went through quite a change part of the Garrett Cole Luoyang lowering them over to New York was this golden plate that they keep talking about how it opens up and we described it almost as like the book of of secrets from like national treasure like with the president like knows every American secret. And it's apparently this IPAD and it says all these special things about New York and like probably the secret tunnels and places we don't even know exists in the black market and all that and then it was Yankee hat in there too. But like have you ever heard about this golden home play 'cause now all like obsessed with it and I need that. See this thing in person before I die. Yeah so I'll be. I'll be honest I never. I didn't watch the press conference I just saw on twitter. And you know people were uh-huh impressed by it or whatever and then I thought thing where I guess he described you know this thing they brought to him. Yeah But yeah so so say that again. It's gold it's a thirty pound. It's a thirty pounds golden home plate that opens up and there's like an ipad in there to guide to New York City and guide that just how to survive New York. What's so great about it? You know where to go the best places to be. It's basically just a big yelp like the Yankees version of of yellow. But it's just just hearing it so hilarious and apparently it failed. I guess what Machado Harper and Corbin but it appears got it. Yeah maybe they didn't get it maybe they. Maybe they just finally launched this thing for call their new their new things like okay. We missed out on a couple of guys we need. We knew the Golden Plate. You so you have no familiarity with it. We're thinking maybe people on the League they had Roy Spurs about the Yankees Golden Play. That's honestly like the weirdest thing I've ever is it Are you allowed to like give gifts during a during Negotiation I think once you're free Asian. Yeah I mean it's not like it's not like college basketball where you're like Calipari like giving someone a car like it's a little. I think it's a little different. You're just weird during the season and like if a guy like comes to third base your basement cab you like. It'd be cool if we played together next year. Dono right you can get a guy like thousand dollar bottle of wine. which apparently apparently that was a big thing to getting him? The the What was it was like Lou Lou? Kacoos like remember the conversation you had with like I told you they were docking to be died on this one Atas you had his minions out. They're like hey you know. Make this happen You know it was yeah you you just had that feeling the entire Carl. This is thank God and now we need one more reliever looks like if Delon's and come back so maybe you're going to hear a knock on your door and they'll get shower retirement. They'll bring they'll give you your own golden coldplay. I think that's that's probably the next move here. In the Aussies I will be the closer they deliver for sure. Okay yeah so so clearly okay. Well we'll we'll drop some uh we'll drop some news to the upper manage. We'll see what they say Another thing oh so we don't ask you so when you were a free agent what what was described the process of like you know meeting these teams and their pitches to you like what were they like. While I wasn't apprised is free agent. So it's much you're still free agent though you're free agent with any themes ally anywhere You know my agent basically called me Maybe about a month after you know. It's probably just after the new year and was like. Hey these are nine teams interest. I is this is what they're offering and I basically just had to choose one There was a little back and forth But it's not you know there's like two guys every year ear that You know the GM flies out and they pitch you know the city and you know all this stuff but you know for the for the guy that was signing a three-year twenty four or you know. I basically just got a phone call. So that's how that's how my my free experience with. What made you choose? You know it was coming. I was coming off that Awful last year in New York. So what made you choose soda that last year Just I mean the money and it was one of only that was one of only two offers. I had everything else was a one year makes sense. Yeah so okay. Process was slightly abbreviated to garyk golden plate. You're you're very important for me. Another big thing. We all season another big thing. The off season was obviously The cheating scumbag gone back. Houston Astros Scandal. That's still unfolding here and it. Just it's you know there's over seventy thousand emails that have been reviewed and it seems like every dates stopped like recently. I guess like there's still conducting the interviews but at one point every single day there was just a new way. They were doing it and cheating. And you know winning the world series in two thousand seventeen and just rubbing it from the Yankees so What was your overall thoughts when you heard about what you surprised at all I would imagine not imagine there were enough murmurs Iraq? Yeah something's going on. Yeah Yeah I mean. I don't know I'm kind of torn on the whole thing because there was I think it was back in. Like what what. What was your that? The Blue Jays were accused of doing that We're the blue blend like. Oh when they had the hotel out there. Yeah they thought somebody the hotel room while ago. Yeah and it's and the thing that's weird for me about the Astros one is like there was definitely something going on right right like there's so much video evidence that nobody can deny it but the the thing that got me was like you're the trash can bang and then there was like a couple of clips of like Carlos Correa like way out in front on a breaking ball and so part of me was like well if he knew that was coming. Why did you take such bad swing? So I don't really know I mean. Obviously there was something weird are going on. I'm curious how they'll be handled it I don't think you're GONNA get your wish and they're going to give the Yankees a title. Well my my wishes. Aj hinch goes to jail. That's my actual witch and we also wanted the astros have to pay goals contract to the Yankees. So we're halfway there with getting Girka in the keys. Okay yeah no I think. That's I think that's fair. That's not a simple. But what do you think would actually be like a just punishment if you were commissioner Yeah that's tough off. I mean well first of all. Let's see what what is in these emails. I mean this is calculated as As it appears from the video stuff I don't think it would be unreasonable. Unreasonable for well. I don't know it's weird. Could they take their title away and just awarded to nobody. I don't think that's like a college football college basketball. You just can't do that and like I think I'm my actual like involved with pensions right. You know I think like they'll draft picks like the guy making sixty grand a year. Would you like to like who do you suspend though hint was it front office yellow. It was it his idea like you have to find. You know who actually write suspend players. I wish I don't think you could suspend any players I think that's that's pretty tough but I think like Beltran could definitely get something which would be hilarious. That like the mets. Just bring this guy in who's coveted as everyone respects him and all all of a sudden he just involved the biggest cheating scandal baseball history. And then you know he just automatically suspend to start the year. I think core could get something. Maybe I think hinge is going to get something for the GM maybe the owner and then you got a ton of draft picks and like the fine is irrelevant. Whatever the find numbers baseball team like that? That's not GonNa Kill Them. They're printing money. Yeah Yeah Yeah I mean. Yeah the draft picks would be the most the most sensible You know Kinda like take away some of their international allocation Asian and you know take away first round pick for two years or something another good one would be like the house guys out when they didn't know what I was draw. Yeah now these guys are saying trash cans that's brutal. Yeah obviously that's going to be my might take a picture because forrest. Gump I think I think maybe they should have to yell out what pitched or throwing for the entire season. Tell them scream fastball. I'm like okay well here I I I would very much. But yeah they're cheating scumbags hopefully they all go to jail. This past year. Twenty team was your first year. Where are you just? Didn't you do not play in the major leagues. How is that like Like the the lifestyle change and all that and obviously having a kid wasn't the first year I didn't. I didn't play in the Matrix. Thanks I didn't play from when I was Zero okay okay. So Yeah Twenty First Twenty first year. Yeah I was like Shit like did we miss them when I was like. Oh now he's just being sarcastic wasn't the first I wasn't the first infant. Ah by how was how was adjusting back to normal civilian life Sounds like you're like a center the first It was like my first summer. I've spent California since I was like a teenager in high school so it was nice. I I watched a a little baseball. I didn't watch a lot I mainly watched Yankee game just as I still pull for like see Guardian guys and But yeah it was it was it was good to the world series. What are your plans like going forward? And you've got the youtube channel up and running yeah. I'm doing youtube videos. which are a lot of fun You know I kinda told myself like if that day comes where I start to miss it and you know maybe we all go out and see on my arm feels but I really haven't had that moment yet so I'm just enjoying life and being dad and all that fun stuff so it's been It's it's been nice. And what is the name of the Youtube Channel so people know not aware the find it goes Paul Sills polls right just the ten thousand a humor. That's that's actually awesome are ten. That's looking very legit. So you open baseball cards in Pokemon cards and your commentary your endings. Is it you editing it. Oh No. I can't do that. I don't know spent the whole year away from baseball. Maybe you learn how to edit myself because I have to pay this guy. I lose money money on these videos already. So I haven't editor and he he makes males and videos and it's fun it's easy it takes me you know Fifteen fifteen twenty minutes to do and people seem to like it any thoughts doing Phil Hughes Corp to rival A-rod Corp like you sit down all day and like look at emails and signed baseballs where where suits in my house. No reason yeah yeah. It'd be funny if like you actually like did like a video phillies corporate. There's a free idea for you in your work on that right. Now be unbelievable we bring him. NANDITA brings era. And we need one of those big One of those big calendars on the tripod. Yes because you know. There's no calendars on your computer. Your phone so I need. I need a big paper one. Yeah you need a real fancy pants nearby. Like a five in our pen or something like that and just sitting sitting on a notepad and then you're good and then you have your feet up in a suit and then boom in a cigar in your hand or scarring your mouth and you're like yeah. That's that's that's the money shot right there. That's perfect but yeah. The Youtube Channel is the YouTube channel is is going well. I've I've watched a few videos and actually very entertaining And so that's good that's That's one way to spend. That's that's like okay like Phil. Like just didn't sit on his ass like all Aussie all twenty nine when he was just. He created his own youtube ten thousand subscribers. It's very legit. So congratulations to that very cool so cease about the you you said. I think a few times that he was your favorite team right. I believe you set that CECE. Yeah so he just retired so give us your best see DC story. That's not story. There's a lot of good ones well. Well I don't know if there's really a story but When he had his I think it was his thirtieth birthday? Gosh was it like that long ago. 'cause he's like forty right. He is thirty nine. signee like huge birthday party where like Jay Z. was there like it was insane right and there was like these. He's he's hired these These checks to like walk around it was almost like You know they had like drinks and you know and tally yeah. They had like snakes like like literally. Like I don't know I don't know what these kinds of snakes pythons or something okay Anaconda like huge fucking snakes and I. I hate snakes more than anything and they were everywhere like there was these ladies everywhere with like like with these big snakes wrapped around their entire bodies. And I just wanted to get out of there because I didn't want to be near any one of these snakes and She magic that's the Yankee like a really fun party. And Will it was a fun party for a Lotta people was absolutely terrified for me like Derek. Auditor's out two months because you got bit by a snake it was it was sup- it was so bizarre but I mean when you have a shift onto money you just you do stuff like that you know so like nobody wants. Nobody wants balloons that their birthday party. Right a multimillionaire. You know you need Boa constrictors inserters. Jesus Christ was Jay Z.. Just like all your parties because I mean there's a famous like a-rod party right no nine that we could. You told us having some about that. But then more came came out David Robertson. Be Too scared to jump in the pool. Like Jay Z. Basically he was really mad. US really meant to be there. That was the night I tried to dumb country. Now he didn't go yes. Tell that So it's in the book that Yeah Hulk wrote that right yeah yeah and Yeah yeah so like everybody was just trapped at this party and had already like everybody had already jumped in the pool. And this House era was He was renting that year. Had like a a barn like basketball court and so everybody was just like shooting around or whatever and like chase he was just standing under the Hoop Just like talking to somebody like not playing basketball. I I just ran up and tried to like post horizon and a failed miserably like fell on my ass and I think he I think he's still dislikes three to stay. If you successfully pulled that off and got embarrassing shot like you'd be debt like Jay. Z has the power murder. Yeah you're probably a the thing that I that I was like such an ass because embarrassed them. I probably would be a good story though. How did it feel die? They'll Jay Z.. Actually had him killed because because he does and he does a really good idea. I wonder if we win. The world series. They'll work to grow. I wonder if they rally around your death in. Oh nine if If Jesse just kills you still win the world series. That's a big. What if and sports one of the greats show live which is good and you have your youtube channel so everything's it is going great But yeah so. CC retiring and along with Didi leaving So Guard is really the gardens coming back thank God because and romance got seemingly everyone with a good personality. That was gelling the team together. It's just gone except for gardeners there's a lot of pressure I feel like I'm Brett Gardner But do you think I didn't Do he still on your ear with an option. Yeah Oh gosh yeah so. That's good for them. 'cause yeah for sure especially with being awesome. Welcome to picks being out with the Tommy John and you know the like talking and I think they believe in and we believe in obviously but there's still the uncertainty of. Can he do it again this year. And he's ziesel still the same guy says you can't take that gamble so they definitely to bring him back. Thank God because it seems like every single person. We talked to you from the team and around the team is just like Gardner owner. Is that guy that you go to anytime you need anything like if you need any advice whatsoever. He's going to tell you the right thing. He's almost like the team therapist that seems like. Did you get that vibe. Live from Cardi. Yeah he's also like the prankster like Laureus. That's that's why everybody loves like he would get mixed pusher so much shit back in the day and And like you need you know like not every clubhouse like is You know needs like the rallied all the time. You know you need like you need the comedy to break it up. 'cause around he's got so much that's a garden definitely brings that it's He's a good player. Like everybody's like Oh you know he's good for the Club House the group that solitude. Yeah I mean. He had a career year in with power ups. RBI's last year was ridiculous. Well we didn't have a career car. You're right so that brings us to the juice balls. Do you by that. Like something crazy going on with the balls and that they just for whatever reason they were like. Oh yeah we need more often so they just change the ball's laws out I don't know what happened but yeah there's definitely something different. What the boss? I can't speculate on you know if it was you know. Plan thing four If there was just something different about the machines that they use to make them. I don't know but Yeah I mean you don't you don't break like a record. Was it last year two years ago. Yeah for the most runs ever by a thousand and then shatter that again the next year by right There's yeah there's no way. That's not a coincidence. What would you do going forward like? Leave them as is 'cause like you can't go back or do you. Just try to try to go back and be like that. One year was an aberration. Yeah I don't know I don't want to do. I mean well first of all if they know what the issue was like if they if it was actually a calculated move that they changed with the balls ause and I guess you could go back But if they don't know what's different Then I don't I don't know what you do. I'd like to believe that nobody knows what's going on on but I feel like it is like A. Yeah go ahead. I know I feel like math. Is Evil Genius. who was like? He's behind he's not auditees behind everything and he thought he was doing the right move and he just isn't like as of now. I think everyone except saying something with the seams and you know Tanaka was just. I remember Tanaka specifically. We're just trying to find a new splitter grip like basically on the fly in the middle of the season eventually got it by the end of the year last crazy. Well you gotta like and also like it's it's insane that they won't they didn't address it in the offseason like come out and say something because Howard team like teams are going to go out and get pitchers or going to go out and get hitters to pay based on like what's going to happen in two thousand twenty like who am I going to go after hitters hero. It's crazy it's like I don't know what you do is GM in that situation absence shit show. Hopefully they just even if they wanted to increase home runs and increase offense right to get You know younger audience more into baseball. Just say it just like right. I'll just say that this is what you're doing like the NHL you know they. They limit the the amount of pats at the goal. It's GonNa wear because they want more offense football. They don't want extra points to be so they move them back like just just be transparent about it you know but like just trying to sneak some different balls in You know it seems it just makes me look like a crook you know and so another change. They're trying to make which stinks is the three battle or he bring relief pitcher in the have to face at least three batters unless it's to end in ending. What do you think about that? I got is trying to increase pace of play but I know awesome. A lot of people think I mean can't mess with the strategy of baseball riots. Dumb it's not gonNA work. It's not it's I'm not gonNA speak games up you know By how much like you know if you WANNA speak games up you know. That's there's other ways to do it and it's not you know forcing a guy to to stay in for three dollars right because not only that it takes away. You know you've got a guy You know reliever that maybe pitched the night before four. And you're forced to basically have him out there for sixty seventy pitches if he's struggling like what are you. You know what I mean. It's like I don't even think of it in that way. It's like you can't get it bring a guy in the next day just to get one out right like. Are you going to back to back. Days because MRS fucked. Is it too late to just be like this. Move fucking stinks. That's why we doing from Afri- Nydia one for anybody out. Yeah that's the biggest deal. Yeah Dis gives up three home runs. It's like a just kill. The guy on there was a mets reliever. I forgot who it was and they just set one of. KFC blog that. I can't remember his name but he was in the minor leagues and they. He just pissed three batteries. Not Three hours okay. Three batters but there was a guy in the mets minor league system a couple couple years ago who just left him out there for like three innings or two innings and gave up like fifteen runs. He retired like after the game he was like. I just can't do this anymore. Philip down might happen a lot more frequently. If this rule is gonNA stick and people are GonNa Listen to twenty thirteen where I just wanted to go home. Who doesn't I mean everyone? Everyone has their bad days. But I mean yeah this. I don't see how this will sticks. I mean I feel like there's there's a lot of changes in baseball and sports in life that you were like they they freak out about and and after a week or two. It's like all right. Well whatever this is part of like the the D. L. to the I L. I thought that was insane to start now. Just call it the like no problem but like this is going. That'd be different. I think this'll be a problem. router threats like the average Stafford's game went from like three hours twelve minutes to three hours and nine minutes. It'd be like okay. It was this worth it right You know it's it's we're trying to trying to baseball popular with young people. So try experiment. Walks wants us to homer so that they are. We'll wrap up here. I know you're not happy about the obviously Nike is now going to to be on the Nike. SWOOSH IS GONNA be on every Single Jersey in two thousand twenty moving on paid over a billion dollars. It's being reported for the for the switch and and you know where to put it. What are your thoughts on the Yankee Jersey tradition and having that Nike's poster it's brutal and and you know me like I don't believe in the shaving thing I think there's a lot of like dumb traditions that You know are around. That are just silly but you know having the swoosh on the chest as like it just takes takes away from the uniform too much specifically with the Yankees or saying right walls. I mean specifically with the Yankees just because it's such a classic but it looks bad on all of brutal and you know I get that. If you'RE GONNA pay that much money you want You want brand recognition on TV and you know the sleeve is obviously not as ideal as the chest. But I mean like Major League. Baseball is printing money. Do they need a billion dollar deal could they. Maybe I've said hey would you Do It for six fifty if we do it on. The leased leased But yeah I hate it Did you see my picture where I had my buddy photoshop. Just a big Nike swoosh on the chest and the yeah. I think you're doing all these things secretly at home by yourself. And now you're just outing yourself the you just have everyone do it for you. And I'm a little I mean I don't think phil uses making that himself L.. Fly I don't think it feels like Oh expert. I can barely like crop. A picture like Photoshop. Come all right. I'm giving you a little too much credit. The but genius ideas. I just need help executing. Okay that's fair give us give us one I'll get back to rush out. I'm press so after Youtube. And My my photoshop picture about. Yeah you've got the holidays through march on those. Yeah your your your your holiday seasons coming up you take a break you you. You're on the couch. You had some good ideas and then we'll get back to cook it in the right right around like spring training or the regular season so exactly okay et Fille. Thank you so much for taking the time to join us today You're now back to back. Years on the porch has pretty good Thanks also for saying I look like Derek jeter. That was me. I can't wait to get that clip out on twitter. I was ridiculous. It was one of the worst ruined by Friday. Good God to fill always a pleasure. Best of luck. Best Luck with a kid. I think it's going to get a little harder on you. You seemed to be coasting right now as a dad but from the looks of it From people around here in the office who just avenue newborns. I think it's going to get a little bit harder. So maybe the next time we talk to your like you hit the places on fire and you're like yeah. Everything's not really fine anymore. You're just GonNa hear screaming in the background. Yeah it'll be. It'll be interesting to see how that evolves in three or four months. Yeah we'll have to check in at some point But Yeah Phil always a pleasure. We'll talk to you again soon. Take care thanks I appreciate you got all right. Thanks getting to fill USA. Fake will be talking to him throughout the season as the Yankees go undefeated and win the world series in easy fashion but always awesome. Always good to talk to him. He's got a chance to go thousand youtube channel spills. Polls he's got over ten thousand scrubbers. Mitch very big deal very hard youtube subscribers I we can use some youtube scrubbers too so the short on youtube as well so follow that we tried to posted many visual. You can you guys can see you know. Get an in depth interview people in the studio you can see what's going on different aspects that rather than just listening to podcasts. But listen to podcasts. I anybody else. We can both the clicks where do the Yankees all decade team consists the last short ports of the of the decade. Actually I'll credit to us. We're like a switch shit. It's like a hundred and fifty fifth episode. One hundred six crazy. How many episodes to be done but Thank you listeners and everybody vert subscribing and all that in listening it's crazy we started this kind of you know just a hobby end up turning into a job which is cool all decade team. Now did you do This on your favorite players the decade or best players in the decade. I did it as best. That's okay that's what I did. Okay like in all. NBA team is just the writer's his favorite players are. Let's let's relax. Some eye-catcher is Gary Sanchez. Stay starting this like going through through. I'm not surprising. Didn't want world series this decade. Like looking at pretty shitty. Oh really shitty all decade team like I. I was expecting expecting it to be like it was more like trying to find guys. As opposed to squeezing guys at I couldn't find a D. H.. Like I kind of guessed him. I D H. We'll get to that which I just put like the best left. I didn't do a okay. Okay anybody that was sort of my check up but yeah I've also carry US capture. Okay first first basements to share. I wanted to do because I love him. But I mean it's tough to share. I still any of the decade. who was putting up some numbers I think here is where second basis where you can make an argument but like probably not but I put canot? But you've got labor. I put canal but I mean Labour's had two years and he's played shortstop for Canot four years was an all star. MVP Top five second baseman. Like if you if you compare like their wars like could no. I think I was like twenty more wins above replacement so to me. That was easy. Honorable Mention was stolen. Castro I love starring. Yeah forget about starting shortstop. Aw I have to hear me to heater Belykh. Jeeter did nothing pretty much the last couple of years into the decade like right like twenty two thousand fourteen his last year he wasn't good twenty thirteen. He was hurt a lot one of those other years. Who was hurt a lot and it wasn't like Didi like jeeter obviously owns the the two thousand in the ninety s but I think Dede meant more to the twenty ten yankees than jeeter? Yeah I I would I would agree. I mean he got better every single year right and like if you if you're a guy who's leaving people are devastated like that means you do a lot in that decade of Your Life Right. They also played probably way more. Yeah I would I would agree. Yeah he yeah for sure Sir Bases A-rod I mean pretty straightforward their. I D only played fifty one more games as decade than appear to be. I mean but jeters like end of his career was Sadie. Had Eight eight more war though so I love you. Single Shit on Jeeter for his defense like his feeling percentage and all that and you know all the Sierra metric fielding things like the guy just refused to not play anywhere anywhere shortstop like he was just way too old. This is like that to be fair though. That could be a knock on them. Yes that's the thing that point. He wanted to be a shortstop the capital Yankees. And like I don't know it's just like you wrote the last couple years because like you know shit is fucking really old. Every other player moves their position in when they get that old. Jeeter Peter to stay there base. Elevate Rod some people I was there was a few viral del decades that were going around and some people headley at least some people and you just can't have and hearts. They played like one year. What are we talking about here? At our played one year chase headley sneaky like played a lot for the Yankees. Yeah but none of them were good. He was good and like era. I mean he's a-rod like he still had he was hurt but twenty fifteen in the big year twenty tiny was still productive Sprinkles and like eleven twelve. I mean he's a-rod he's GonNa be on my all decade team. Of course yeah and the big moment is obviously that hit the astros game where he should have been thrown out at second because he fell but then he miraculously got Miraculously got the second. But whatever Al feel might be a little different here but let feel I am Gardy. I mean you got me to forever. He's probably the player of the decade. They probably are easy. Centerfield Curtis granderson man. I thought that was going to be a unique pick. We said the same lists pretty much the same exactly. I forgot how good granderson was. I was going through his baseball reverence like he finished fourth in the MVP MVP voting. I totally forgot about that. He has if you look from in the decade. He has the third highest or of any Anki crazy absolutely insane but a superstar years twenty ten twenty eleven and twenty twelve. Yeah he was impact Tarquini with her. But I mean that's a mouth to you know. Put her up there. Yeah I mean grandy was he. Never you know defensively was never really that good like never had the arm and all that but I mean he gets every ball in most barn he just he. His swing swing was so perfect for Yankee Stadium. So perfect And the right field. I've got Aaron Judge Ami to what we what are we doing here D. H.. Would you prefer Deitch H so I just put jeeter 'cause like there's No D. H.. That really stands out so as Johnny lunch. I'll just got the best guy left like you can't leave out the captain. Okay the captain I originally down here Beltran and then kind had Giancarlo D. H.. which is a lot? But if we're just GONNA take we pick over a little boy. Am I all decade team. Fuck it I don't care. Now here's work stopped are fucking rotation is so bad after th. There's three that you're gonNA work. We're GONNA have three Locke C. C.. For sure sure spy is your is your all decade cat to knock Gardy. I think it's easy Tanaka for sure. Yup Yup. Okay now. Who's your fourth so this to me? I actually forgot about how much I liked to the sky. I and I think he I think he has to be in it. Hiroki Kuroda we have the same list as much I mean I forgot how good he was in like. Twenty twelve twenty thirteen two thousand fourteen pitch two hundred innings every one nine last year two hundred every year like er a in the mid threes just so solid like you could set your watch. Good Hiroki Kuroda Star. He was the ace of the rotation for like a couple of years in a row. And I'm pretty sure he just re signed one year deals every time he's like I don't want to commit to anything longer within one year but eventually he went to Korea. They went back you. He's still pitching. I believe it may to okay my last one. There's no way you have. I don't know there's no way who is about Nova. Okay wow so I I had. It was either or like I. I've actually deleted nobody. But he was like he's number six for me. Line is still whose fuck it all right first. He he picked like five. Years is a star. This day I looked so to me. It came down to Nova Hughes or Andy Pettitte. Jesus Christ Andy Pettitte did have A couple pitched in a he. He didn't pitch that that much. The war was still pretty high and like he's Andy Pettitte but let's see pitched in twenty ten. He pitched was eleven and three only pitched twenty one starts. He retired hired in twenty eleven. Came Back Two thousand twelve seventy five innings and twenty thirteen is pretty legit hundred eighty five innings three point seven four Jahra but Yeah I just want on over because you know how much I love Avendano also pitched if you if you look at innings pitched by this decade of Nova is third. Yeah Oh yeah. They weren't all good innings but when he was on his game oh boy best pitcher in baseball he. Also Yvonne Moment. Didn't know how to get a notice. I feel it's either. A winner. Lost us every time he pitched like really good start or he was me so bad he was definitely taking the loss so I feel like he's got a ton of wins. Well that just thought off a gut And then I said to pick three relievers. Obviously oh I did have Mareo really oily pitch three seasons seasons fucking Marianne St Caesar's. There's probably no one better. Yeah true I just don't know twenty. He didn't pitch it all. Twenty twelve all for like a month and then obviously it was unreal and twenty in eleven in our ten eleven thirteen all decade. I wanted like a little more longevity. I don't know maybe I should have put what him in all right. Now we have this. Could we have a difference of. WHO's your number one so I didn't really have an order but whatever the three I had were Potanin Chapman David Robertson? Okay so misers mode Chapman Potenza. So I I like my bullpen. More than you're I is the Dave Robertson. Yeah well no shit man rather Maryono. But if we're doing like all decade like Dave Roberts any pitched let's see four hundred twenty five innings this decade Marriott. Only one hundred ninety. I don't know take anybody then. Yeah I'M GONNA take Marrano but I was thinking more in terms of like who did more in the day Robinson was like a big hit so many ridiculous years then he came back for the second part of the decade to you. Just think it's okay you think Dan Robertson's better than most it's fun. Whatever you left off year I thought that putting a Java just to he's awesome but not in twenty tend and now didn't he pitched into the twenty cents? No not well if you did to like Oh eight whizzes or seven the light but like I just loved like his job in forever I well. I left off jeeter because I didn't didn't really think they put him in. But you left off now so I guess we're worry fuck what else I had something to talk about Oh Oh I was remnant youtube last night and as watching Roger Clemens like his return to the Yankees. Did you realize how much they paid him that year to come back. It's like twenty five million or something. Twenty billion. It was appropriated twenty million dollar contract and start that that that's insane and like could you imagine something like that happened where he showed up and was like imagine like twenty nine points. It just shows me like yeah. I'm coming back. They brought me back from Houston. That won't be fucking and stick. That whole situation was show Yankees. I mean the best is Susan Waldman like yeah go nuts oh my God. It's Roger Climates. He's in Georgia box. He's enjoying this black skies. Oh my God what a moment so funny I just forgot how much made him absolutely ridiculous. He's good that you're too. He's like I start for so so good that you're well now. We have dare called who the girl two point. Oh so what would be your prediction. I twenty twenty the twenty twenty s all decade starting rotation. He was forty forty five that year. That's saying it's like they million starting was forty five. That's such a George Steinbrenner move it's the most memorable time. It's actually sleet whatever we want to interview at some point. Obviously what I feel like. That's unlikely the George Roger Clemens. 'cause in his watch watch this press conference and he said I don't know if you've ever publicly said it'd be. It was a conversation he had with George. And he's like I'm GonNa keep this quiet for now but when this is all set a dumb maybe maybe I'll say it out loud like what George told me to come back to the Yankees. I WanNa know what he sold. And I know Remembers that it was probably so trying to threaten his whole family something. I didn't need to know that thing. So whenever we down the road we ever get Roger Clements. Somehow I guess it's not out of fuck realm of questions but I want to ask him that. What else did it has sakes all my friends? Who in the hotdog thing? I guess that was that I tweeted. That out like randomly and had like five thousand likes on twitter. I just did not think that would catch on with US progress. He so as last night he was through twenty three two you days. I'm not with him right now. I won't see him till Friday but you guys are stupid for like doing this this week. You should done it on a week. I'll track like don't you live together. So it's his call. It's not our call but he wanted to do it a week that he he can't he works for A cab big four accounting firm so he can't. I can't do this at work. And he's about hit busy season so like he had to do it this week while he's off from work otherwise he's Never GonNa do it so we'll see sending you videos every timing each one. He's it's a group shot yeah And he's He's through twenty. I don't I haven't looked yet to see what this update right now but I think he's ideas. He's trying to five for lunch at five for dinner for just seven straight days. That's the plan. And he's doubts anyone the honey monster. He bought the biggest buns ever with this thing. Which I guess? He said it's a good idea because he's tasting less hotdog and bun when he's eating them but I don't know that's that's GonNa fill you up quicker. He's he's in trouble. I think after like fifteen he was ready to throw up I don't know what he's going to do. But yes. So He's definitely through twenty and he's like one of the worst punishments ever. Some people are like this isn't a punishment. Yes it is your one. You never looking Arnott's on on the planet. Yeah you're never going to be able to eat hotdogs ever again. It's just like you know it's just a ruin thing which is fine when we go dance because we get low bells anyways but Which I made the point? He got very happy at that. That's good. I want to feel bad about ruining hotdogs but he's going to gain weight. He's a hundred and twenty seven pounds. He doesn't eat anything he was good. At least at least he has at least he's not like almost fat but like I'm saying like this is torture to make him eat this much like not just stomach like his business punishment earlier in the year and I use it for my league and the loser of our league it it was between one or two people one was in shape and the other was not in shape. And we're very concerned that if the one rude loss it would be like a health concern we we would have to shut it down. We're starting our as the next week. Yeah I mean it'll be pretty because he had off of work and he could do anyone it'd be able to do it at work by Joey chestnut comment the to the. I didn't even notice that until until afterwards but yeah just chestnuts like all also Eric Cool. Yeah so I'll try to keep the world updated. I don't think he really wants people to be updated on so he doesn't have any social media. He's one he he. He is an insane person. He gets all his news. He doesn't have twitter instagram facebook. Nothing he gets all his news from bleacher the report or boxful. He has the bar slap as the bleacher report up and bleacher. Report has like the twitter. Thing that's happened. Follows is. News is through the twitter thing on bleep. That is because I. I think he's the only person in the world who does that. I think he is crazy but So he doesn't he has no idea. I Like I've been tweeting about and whatever but it's it's something so I guess you WanNa keep updated on that. I'll try to tweet out the rest of the week and see what he's doing a- all I know is that he's through twenty and he's he's dying on the inside other than that if this report. That's it for the decade of the shore ports spent a good decade. Komo few years of doing this so be back January second it will be recording again. Hope hopefully there's some some news year going around. Hopefully my friend has died of a heart of a heart attack from the hot dogs. Maybe I can get him on the show for five minutes. We can talk to. Who knows probably like that but That have everyone have a merry Christmas happy Hanukkah Kwanzaa as well happy New Year A laniers ears but happy new year and And Yeah thank you so much. Everyone who's been listening to this report in this decade negate fucking great time the next decade. It's that much. Oh I wasn't real quick won't be your prediction for the Yankees starting rotation of the next decade the All Decade Garrett Cole Right We Severino Okay Michael King putting candidate they're both of them and if they reassigned James Paxton I'll put him in there maybe Jason Domingus Angus decides to pitch to and he could see that a really good at this as well. If in my spare time I could pitch a few winning streak guys who had been my fifth I mean ideally. It's Debbie Garcia. If he's this fucking good I guess it could be Medina. I see Tanaka. Probably Pitch for ten years could beat Tanaka. Yeah who knows but that's already better than what we had twenty ten bad so bad All right so we're moving onto the twenty twenty s thank. God we've got Gary Coleman the twenty twenty. It's very good news anyway. Happy everybody and we'll see you back here next year on your porch. Oh there's a John Sterling. You've been listening to short porch Byproduct of Barstool Sports. He's not detainees. BOBBY DOT COM. Starting Eddie's Eddie's these knobby nose battle the first the list off thirties.

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Episode 82: With New York Yankees Reliever/Dark Wizard Adam Ottavino

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Episode 82: With New York Yankees Reliever/Dark Wizard Adam Ottavino

"The. Tied at five to go. The body of these Aaron Boone the leader his first bad of the game. He's. Just to the first what's up? What's happened? Welcome to another dishing of the short porch. I'm your host hubs alongside be my co-host. The Colosseum cloud the veep. God Tommy smokes Tomsk belly. What's going on give me all those nicknames? So now, you're going to you're going back at me. I'm just being difficult as per usual. Yeah. You know, what the next time? And that was sad amount of you know, so much for coming on. Guy. We're gonna have CAD. All. And it's gonna be I'm sure we'll be finished ever. I one, oh, it'd be when I meet a Purdy said that Tom. I'll just goes. He's very guy. So he's very surreal words have never been sure with about you. I think that's why the question he thought. Oh, that's why news here. That's the real. The show. More die and a regular season baseball be an hazier especially jealous and the IMO, basically. His time in that room. Thought it was in like he's going to be thought. It was also love that. He's from New York Yankee fan. Does this show? And hopefully, there was no swing. Is that fell slider game? Just like, here's a gal. Carried the game. Wasn't that? Good. What's that? I just wanna see in a moment. Game on Saturday. You'll have video of that. We are going to get on. Sheriff will have to barbershop that was very interesting. Actually. It is time works. Thank you for explaining hubs to our. We'll be back Monday. Hopefully, no more interest. Please. God. Please see. And then I was like, oh, it's it's opening day. We just missed it. Like welcome to baseball season. I guess I didn't know until last night. My we play card. Everybody's play cards. We call Tuesday cards exclusive group busiv group and after the game. We're watching some college basketball just going through my app to see what's going on like some spring training on. And then it said the next day five thirty in the morning. I'm like, oh my God, that's the Japan game. And that was eleven thirty nine. That's when I knew there was a game. So I set my alarm I woke up I wanted to see each euro last games ever gonna play. So I stayed. I woke up at five thirty in the morning watch verse three innings went back to bed. Mike, Mike fires is pushing for the as we fucking hate him. 'cause giancarl STAN hall him. He's a scumbag, and he was getting lit up. I woke up again an hour and half later. He fucking grand slam the Domingo's Santana, which is cool. I bet on the Mariners. They won. It was cool. But not exactly the most enticing, you know, the Mariners who traded, you know, a good chunk of their guys and the Oakland A's who apparently the Yankees rival. But. Mike fires race. I wasn't really too too enticing to match up. I think it's crazy that you will woke up for it like gambled on it. So that gave me interest, and I want this each euro. It's cool. I'll watch the highlights and I- pitching. He's the other Japanese lefty that they signed the that's pretty well Najan making your major debut, and it's just Japan. Yeah. It's like I mean, just like never left, right? So we'll see like if it's would you be more nervous. The all thousand percent learner then like pitching in the states. Yeah. Yeah. Because not only are you trying to win over your new team the Mariners, but you still have all your Japanese fans watching to it's as nerve wracking possibly be. So I was pretty crazy. There's another game today. And the craziest part also which Casey point out both teams. I think are going back and playing spring training games after this. I mean, I guess it makes sense. But that takes. Almost forget this even happened. I you don't really know what happened. And if you do know what happened you're gonna forget that there. They're probably people who didn't know happen. Yeah. For sure and this will be a full day and half. Breaking news guys baseball season started. He started. So let's get some Yankee news might trout. Locked up twelve years four hundred and thirty million dollars. Angels. Looks like Bryce Harper's attempt to tamper did not work at all. He's me slickest and worst recruiting tour ever. The worst glue Mitro did not listen to anything. He said four thirty seems light with my trout going to be honest. I think he's worth a lot more than that. How crazy is it that Mike chart is so good that he got basically half a billion dollars shattered records for biggest American sports contract ever. And nobody is like he's overpaid. Not one person there's some people who say he's worth about that. But some people, you know, sending needs more. Nobody's saying oh, man. I can't believe they overpaid him that much. He's that good. Yeah. It's what's four thirty five by twelve. What's that per year? Thirty five point thirty five. Yeah. I mean, he's kind of like LeBron James where like LeBron mix what he makes twenty five thirty million whatever. But if you actually like during his prime he's worth fifty like IBM could've probably seventy five. There's no salary said if there's no salary cap if LeBron had played in Europe where there is no salary cap. Like, the starting point would have been like seventy million dollars. So it's great subtract similar way. Good for the angels. Trout. Kluge doesn't give fuck about you know, winning a World Series any of that. Because that's not going to happen with the angels. Could. Okay. I mean, there's a chance within one of these twelve years. I guess they'll have one playoff run aren't like a historically joke of a franchise. Also stuck in the AL west though Astros are just going to be good forever true. But I mean, they were they were the biggest pests for awhile and the two guys that's the Stein's Garret Anderson opposite. They're all. I'm just saying there is going. Precedent there to a degree. It's a complete joke of a team that has no winning history. Yeah. I tweeted I'm just upset that I do not like this new trend of great players not becoming Ke's. It's not great. I rather. It's it is good though that they can't come Red Sox either. Like, no one are not. Oh, I was kind of scared about that. That can't happen. You know, trout God forbid, although people have always said the Phillies with him. I do like how he just fucking fuck face face. Fuck the Phillies like they just because they always thought they were shoe in for him. Like almost like we were for Harper. It was a very similar thing. It was almost more for trout from the area. Jersey native was Westfield Coast Eagles games like every fucking Sunday. So I don't know put the reason I bring this up, obviously is because also Alex bregman six years one hundred million a lot of people getting locked up. I'll quick you know, that Mike trout was almost Yankee, you know, that draft story. Remind me remind I'm looking up. I know they had a pick. So after the comp after the compensate, Tori, maybe for not signing Garrett Cole the before the keys were to pick twenty nine in the first round in two thousand nine after extending qualifying offers to to share and k rod and lose them free agency had the twenty fourth and twenty fifth picks up Heimer called his heart. Skipping a beat when angels took an outfielder from a high school in Texas with the twenty four th pick for a moment. It looked like the angels didn't wanna take a chance on trout. So they thought that he was going to follow them up. Heimer is devastated. When angels took trout with the twenty we're going to take second consecutive heights Clough field therefore picks later. Thank you took a heist cloth from at their own called sleeve, flip Eka. Yep. So I'm pretty sure the angels guy that pick because inky sign to shit or because they extended the share overcame Yankee. So yeah, they were close to getting my China. No. He's painful thing. I didn't need to hear that. Yeah. I've always thought curry in the Knicks type deal. That's now that but it's even worse because. It's like the almost as if that would be if the warriors picked a three point shooting point guard, and then they also pick stuff curry, right? You know what I mean? That's what the they picked cloud fuel there. And they picked another outfielder. It's insane. Also nuts. How late in the first round. He went. Yeah. So I mean, the keys are among twenty five teams. Probably that said, Nope. Not this guy. Not the guy who's pretty much the best baseball player to ever live. They never on a shot. Right. No. I'm saying oh the teams before. That just like had all the chance to the world to take him. And he's the best place. Best baseball player to ever live your tires right now at the age of twenty six years, then he's a whole Famer. He's all right now, he just died or just retired. He's all famous. That's good. His numbers. Are they they stack up with anybody? He's ridiculous. But the reason I bring this up, obviously is because you know, the big elephant the room Aaron judge time lock them up. I think a hate the longer. Wait the long waiting next off season after he wins, the MVP and hit sixty five home runs sixty eight federal prediction for the year. This is like they're in a good spot right now where he's gotten a year and a half of great baseball under his belt. He's just getting better. And better, you know, not that we take spring into account or anything. But if you look at this fucking guy in spring, he looks like a cyborg hitting everything, and he he's got you wanna lock in your face your franchise. They've been doing it with Severino Hicks now, obviously there is the extension curse that we've been talking about. Yes. Don't want to deal with that. But it's being talked about what would you give him? My starting point would be. So he hasn't entered arbitration yet, which gives the Yankees a little bit of an advantage there because whatever you give him if you were to extend them right now, the first three years he getting so much more than what he normally would be getting right? So that allows that number to get a little lower my in my head. I'm not good at this. You know, not a GM, whatever. But I through seven for two hundred around my head that seemed like a number to start at other people like let's give them ten years. Find by any number you give. So the reason I actually don't wanna do it. Now, I think it's too. I don't want to have as we start a new season on Joe speed dealing with contract negotiations. I don't want that to be part of to play baseball. I think he said that he's like it's either going to think he had said it's gonna get done now or the or the off season. He's like I'm letting my people handle at which is fine. And there's no reason to go she ate during the season. That's a stupid. I'm saying get it done now or the offseason, but I'd love to get it down done right now. I'm trying to think of I mean. Would only make six hundred thousand dollars. I would like I don't want. I know he's gonna end up Anki legend. But I don't really wanna be paying Aaron judge a lot when he's like thirty five thirty. I don't think he's I don't care. I don't think his body's going to age. Great just a first baseman or D H. Yeah. I would pay him a lot, dude. He's absolutely free about to be twenty seven right? Yeah. That's why I said seven years. For the Yankees. That's a number that work. I don't know if that's an Aaron judge number. But I'd go eight because then you have him through his age thirty four season. I'd say eight years. Two to twenty. Yeah. That works for me hundred percents. So like, I bet. Mookie Betts turn that number down eight for twenty last off-season. He said, no he's getting he's gonna ask for three fifty and that was before an MVP season. Yeah. I mean Red Sox fans can pick her with us all they want. I'm taking judge every single time. Over Mookie Betts, just I just think he's the better baseball has even close hasn't even come close to reaching his peak in my opinion. And I think that's has. I think that's his last season. That's the best you'll get from vets. And it's not to say that can't continue. But I think judges peak is just so much higher than his. I think you can. You can make the argument that Mucci as -ccomplish more. But I think going forward I want judge judge and and based on these numbers thrown around. I mean, that's seems like he wants to go to free agency which must make red sock fans ecstatic because now they can't lock them up. Corrobos isn't nervous. But I could tell the inside they lose bets that'd be a huge fucking deal magic Yankee swoop than just got him future. Yankee Don future Hanky. I got another one that added to my list this yesterday future Yankee Frankie Laine door, Philly Cleveland's not gonna pay him. I thinking, I don't know where. I think in today Eloy Jimenez. Twenty eight. Okay. Where do you a pretty good spot such a bus? You quote me on that just a white sock. They don't doesn't happen. Why? Talks Davis white socks today. Tweeted out the projections for all the home runs for he went one through nine who's projecting the team John J leading off he said ten to fifteen home runs guests. How many home runs John Jay has hit since twenty fourteen fourteen eleven he's all of a sudden can head ten the fifteen White Sox? Dave is actually the craziest person that's ever existed on this planet, and that's a list. That's just a doozy. He's number one. He's he's absolutely delusional. But bottom line here. I wanna extend judge mealy. I hate the waiting game and all this, and I don't want judge arbitration to get you know, that snake Randy LeVine and just oh you strike out. Too much. You don't hit three hundred judge you hit in the wrist, whatever. I don't need that. I don't need Aaron judge getting that shit. Just pay them in deserves every penny. He gets to be the captain of this team the face. Of the franchise. He deserves every penny. Just get it done. So moving on some interesting news, which is kind of old Casey blew it up today like every Red Sox and Mets fan came out in the book, but I blocked about this three months ago the Cashman stories old, right? But I think some of the other stuff some of the stuff is like, yeah. No, da like, obviously Shelvin the bottom line here, Derrick. Jeeter was an asshole dick, you know, what men so is Michael Jordan, so's Tiger Woods. So as LeBron James is Koby Bryant. So is probably wing Gretzky not really hockey. I assume he was bit of dick the I betcha Tom Brady is an asshole. And he is the best PR people in the world. Not the biggest asshole, maybe not jeeter Astle level. But a bitch. Tom is it's not all sunshine and rainbows. When that guy talks the side. He's been a dick to some people. You're a competitor an athlete at the level talking about like some of the greatest of all times, you're not going to be the most chill guy. Ever. You can't. It's not possible. You have to you have to be arrogant. You have to have an ego. It is impossible to trout is maybe breaking that little barrier because he seems like he is just a good, dude and quiet and kept himself. But you'd have you thought that probably about jeeter in his playing days to and then it's just coming out and trout also isn't as exposed trout was playing in New York with this type of spotlight and media attention that jeeter had maybe he would also become a bit of a dick to I mean out in LA Anaheim, it's like. Got to be mad. So the part. It's it's in this book by Bob classic. Call the inside the empire. And it's I'm sure it's about I'm bunch of other things, and we might have Bob on the show of intially at some point because debut. Probably very interesting guests, and we talk about all these stories and whatnot. Besides jeers, some cool stuff. But. A lot of it was his dealing with Cashman. We've talked about this on the show, and how towards the end of his career cash wanna give him three years fifty one million. And he's jeeter wanted to get paid. You know, like he was still in his prime when she wasn't cashing basic tone. The fuck off jeeter's who else you give them money to he mentioned too, low Geeta stormed off tried look for other offers couldn't even come close to it. And they've taken the money back. So KFC blew that up. Stupid. My biggest takeaway from this whole arcola wasn't about geeder fucking love Brian Cashman. Yeah. He's just doesn't give straight says it how it is at first when I read this as I wife Cashman being so open. Why even like give this guy quotes for his book? And then I realized because he's coming out. Great. So, of course, the people I love Brian Cashman. He just shoots it straight. I love the whole article. But it was about another excerpt about how him in Georgia have screaming matches at each other Cashman, George Steinbrenner. Cast the way he orchestrated the. Deal for Stanton, the mother takeaway. Speaking of that deal is that Jeter anyone out there, which I always thought was a crock shit because I always thought that jeeter was way more about himself than the Ke's. Anyone that thinks jeeter gave Stanton to the Yankees is a more. There is no way he wanted to help Bryan Catherine given their history. Do people actually think that I people always say, I mean, I've always said as we always say there's a joke. Oh, we I think Anki fans maybe didn't believe things like he collude. All I think other baseball fans think oh look Jiro capitan James doing his own thing in Miami. He's fuck about the ankles. Yeah. Trying to build, and I respect that a different party career, you end like people were the whole stand like you said the sand trade, and basically he said take this fucking deal with the giants. The cardinals who are promise you trading. Everybody around you, and you'll be stuck here forever. You know, who that sounds like George fucking Steinbrenner Steinbrenner with them. I I love that. Like, obviously like stands our guy. Now, he's on our team. But juniors gotta worry about himself here, and he was trying to clean house get rid of that huge contract and Giancarlo had this no trade clause. And he wasn't accepting giants cardinals. Obviously Jesus pissed off. There's nothing wrong with that that's called being a fucking owner doing your job as an owner. I do think I mean. I don't think I'm thinking should have done better. There are things we look him not taking Giancarlo to the to dinner and descend on their thing. We are sure I think they're things to learn though, because jeeter was the guy is a life. That was pampered. He had things go his way he told the media what he wanted to tell them and stuff. And now he's in a position where no he has to answer for different things. He has to sort of being pampered as the pamper other people think that's an adjustment. And that was early on in his tenure in Miami. I would think and hope he'll get better at that. But yeah, I mean, he didn't start. Yeah. Definitely not started off great Miami. But I'm sure he'll probably figure it out other things in the article he wouldn't move to third base for a rod that was never gonna jeeter was never moving. He would rather die than not play short. Yeah. That's not that doesn't come surprise. At all me. This is the weirdest. One didn't go to Bob Shepard's funeral because he claimed he didn't know what that was weird that feels false that feels like Bob classic just live there. I don't think that keyed love bup. He kept the reporting of them. He honors him all the time that feels wrong to me. I know I'm not sure I'm not buying can't speculate on that. But I the one thing about geeder. I never liked through his career was his his mistreatment of our boy. I'm an eight rod guy if it's era adverse jeeter tell only to pick one I'm always taking a-rod. So I always wished they got along a little buddy. But jeeter really gave the culture would you gotta respect the garage. She held the garage because it's to be the fucking king of the city when someone's going to threaten that obviously he's going to feel we also want to be a winner. You want to be champion worked out they wanted to nine but could they have one more third chore? Definitely possible. I mean meeting a Packer fan. I saw Aaron Rodgers and Brett farve in that whole power struggle when Rogers right, it doesn't this should happen. So wants to come and take your job or be like the new guy you're gonna feel threatened by his buddy buddy with him. When he also get life article judge is almost opposite of that wanna came to get and sat right accomplished a way, less jeeter. He's been in baseball for had been baseball for year in baseball. For years. We'll see I mean, Aaron judge this is kind of the same. You never do Aaron judge kunas us four World Series and twenty years. Now, am I the book might come back? You'll what jeeter started off like judge is now exactly. And you know, what I still wouldn't give a fuck me five five world championships and the Mets caves he's big Mets fan. He's got three more than them as a free Chai's more than double. Now. Anyone I mean jeeter still one of the all-time Yankees. You don't need to be care. If you're a deck off. You're not don't give an awful person off the field. He was fucking king to the media right hand themselves. So well in front of media, and then he want an on the field. He was unbelievable. That's all I care about. I could care less. How yours a person? I'm prominent the same guy. I'm probably a little bit of different guy. Like you catch me in the wrong day like a dick at some point. Yeah. And you said on the rundown today, dude. Matt. Tell your stories you ready. We met a couple times to different times being demand. I even while we Matt I June of two thousand five in Saint Louis Yankee road trip got word that the keys Edith, we're probably gonna eat at this restaurant. So went there the waiter new my dad's friend who eat there, lots. He set us up. He walked into this back room. Talion restaurants. Jeeter facade, Tino, Bernie and tannin store. It's one of these things it's not like the other to figure out which one. I love tennis starts initials. She gamer. Your initials and as a hey nine at that point. He police on my body had on the stupid collared shirt. I remember the collared shirt I had a Yankee sling bag on and they you know, they signed the ball. I didn't really say anything to me while they were signing, and then they handed it back. Thank you actually turned around. And I had it was an era link bag that I had on just kind of funny Astle vote ever. I told her I was so we wait for table. And then, you know, ten minutes later, they bring us at the table racy right next to where they were. And where I was sitting at view of dark teeter entire meal spaghetti hanging out of my mouth. And remember Derek Jeter staring at me. But like, maybe laugh. It was good. That was a good experience for me few months later. So me, and my family are seeing the keys you were just staring at him. Well, I mean, it's dark fucking jeeter. I'm nine you're not gonna stare at the union. I contact man. I don't know when you look at. It's like Derek jeeter there. It's like a car wreck. But the opposite one time not at nine and probably not now. So anyway, few months later. Family road trips used to be seen the keys in different cities. And just trying to stay at the rotel. This was the first time we ever did it. It was a Marriott in San Francisco. Their goal is to just try and stay at their hotel. Because it's so easy autographs that way you play the elevator game. Which is when you go on your dad's. Oh, yeah. So we would do the elevator game up and down met fan. But she was just along the elevator game. Yeah. That's just ride the elevator. And hope someone gets it. How long does this go for until you find out lighter? And they're once I think Passat are Bernie, you should be on a watchlist. Probably join. Anyway, we I remember there was the street corner that we used to or not used to for this trip. We would stand at because the players would walk back from certain side of talent. They would go that way to get out there walking back, the hotel me and my dad are on one side of the hotel corner on the cross the street, we see Derek jeeter walk, and we had with us my dad's friend was in the picture Derrick jeeter jumps into the stands against the Red Sox on the pop up my dad's fern is like right there blown up picture of him in it where you could see him please Derek can sign this for me. I've see we'd get our own autographs. So we see them across the street. It's a green light. We just Hitel right across a couple of lunatics to Derrick jeeter, please please sign and he just had put his headphones in and it was like. Today. Move. And then a funny story. So from the other side of the street was the hotel, AVI and their big window, and my mom was sitting in the lobby watching the two of us chase after the street, the head of security who I got to know through the years is standing next standing right next to my mom, obviously, not knowing that there's a relationship and goes on would you look at these two lunatics running across the street after Jeter, and she just goes, that's my husband and son. Well, they can't do that. You're getting kicked out of the hotel. See me, Andy, we had our run-ins couple run ins something else. Oh, yeah. So then mom all. So one of the guys who were stocking out the inky with on that street corners. I just saw Derek earlier. I went up to him. And it was like can you please sign sign this? My wife loves you. And he said, everybody's wife loves and just walked away. So he is kind of a dick. But. It is one of this also saw a-rod on that trip. Ere? I thought was very nice. So I was at the corner era talking with his wife at the time Cynthia and his first daughter, I guess it was in the stroller. Eric please sign and he's like, I'm sorry. I can't sign on with my family walk my kid. I said, you know, Alex, totally got that. Totally got that another autograph. I did get was Bubba Crosby. I used to love him show who it was just staring at him. And he was like you want my autograph. Yes. He made me hold his coffee thought that was very cool. I held his coffee some eyeball. He trusted you to hold that. Call and that's why you're Dave's coffee guy. Now it all comes. I always thought Bubba Crosby a superstar. I thought that name which is like Bubba Crosby should be like retired in monument park that Obama Brasby the perfect name for what Bubba Crosby was to have a little bit of a come up and then just collapse fair. Well, try to get him on here. Crosby cry. I don't think it'll be hard. I can't imagine. He's up too much these days he has a lot of meteoric thought of mine. Jeeter might have an asshole. If you did not think if you thought like the clean image in front of the PR was just one hundred percent. I mean, come back to reality a little bit these guys when you get that level stardom, it's impossible not having arrogance to you and a little bit of ego. So I mean, take this do not like not become a Derrick jeeter fan because of this little story. It's just as a student wants five World Series championships. Nothing changed all Yankee fans burning Dirk koetter if they are. I'm gonna fight him. Let's get some current Yankee news still not good. It's actually getting worse injuries. This is becoming a little ridiculous. So dell. Lynn. He's going in the deal 'cause he's not throwing hard and he's top at ninety two. The reasoning is weird. So the calling it a right shoulder. Impingement Batanes is told the club. He's felt weaker than normal and he couldn't fully extend pitching. He's experiencing inflammation that fucking word inflammation, devil of the Anki so far so the shutting him down for a little bit. It's kind of indefinite they think maybe three to five days, they're hopeful. You know, they're very hopeful. He's going to be back. No problem. But for now, he's start- starting deal. Not the I L, but he'll be on a deal the reasoning behind. It is weird. So if you guys in Delon and his wife gave birth towards the end of the season, and he basically said that like because of the birth and everything he didn't throw as much. So then when he came back to spring when he reported low late is a week later, whatever he was trying to ramp it up to quickly, and that caused this whole inflammation thing. So basically reason he's on the deal is because of his newborn kid. Which I point to think that the inky none of the players decided to train this off sees besides Aaron judge just take the off season often get back into it in February. The only guys you care seems like judge Voy Stanton. Gary and bird. I'll give some credit looks like bird actually, did put some I will say, you know, it sucks because you know, especially opening day. You want have guys you want to go into the season healthy being like this team Moroccan? Well, yeah. But you know, I'd rather get the injuries out of the way. Now. Mind, if you this is not really theory. But if there is a theory that a team has only have so many injuries year per se for sure not theory for sure theory. But if that was where there's an average number of injuries, you get per year, at least we're getting out of the way now. But yeah, I I I'd rather not have these problems. I'd say it's okay to Delon's hurt. The bullpen is very very very very very good. Yeah. I think they're going to survive with three. He's the one unleashed worried about. For the least impact on Bing, messed definitely Hicks. Actually, no back injuries or just always annoying. That's the thing. But Hicks is update is that he's feeling better. No pain just waiting out the cortisone shot. He had two of them does like he's gonna be back relatively soon. I would think a week into the season. If he's not back IB, very confused and stunned. I think from all the reports seems like Xs okay, back injuries or annoying though. So they linger whenever Severino did throw which is comforting know he's trying to get back on the program. Granted it was a very soft toss wasn't drawing like sliders or any of that putting any emphasis on it. But he did make some throws and no pain. So that's good. So we'll move on. That's gonna be a gradual step thing. They'll take all precautions. But that's better news Tyler Wade removed from today's game with him. Double hips or double hip, which is bizarre. He he claims it's normal. Tala wade's. This is recall e Hari tolerate says he felt a little tight come into the ballpark. This morning could have been a long bus ride down. He thinks didn't get stretch out quite like he needed to today. But he's not worried says he just wanted to be precautionary with opening day so close so that doesn't sound terrible. If he works not able to make the open day Rosser. Clint Frazier would just be the guy steps in right now. I believe it's just them to battling out for the final spot that would appear the way. But with all these injuries someone else's returned someone we thought was dead or kidnapped. I didn't know where you're going this at first I got to now. Go bales. Breeze back so back. He's he's trying to be like Batman and like save everybody, basically flat. Ground is worried flat ground shitting their pants. My said this unless puck that's my favorite robberies. Now is Jacoby ellsbury versus flat ground right now flak rounds losing flock around Oche. For the past two years. Just been like this guy ended up on the table cruise cruise control. And then all of a sudden the undertaker gif ellsberg's back. He's he soft Oshun his and look like he's throwing a ball in a decade. But he's soft toss in a way haven't really heard of him running it when he starts running the lookout for that ground a flat grounds in trouble. Yeah. This would be a disaster. If he he can still roster spot. He's trying to trying his best. But this would be a disaster. I I don't want to let myself get sucked in I won't. But I might. Suck ellsbury I'm getting sucked at Sessa. He continues to dominate. I sent your screen shot. In spring his point six, I'm not gonna suck. Did I won't get sucked in? That at least ellsbury when he please. He he's been productive like at least at one point is career. Lewis has always been bad. It's time to shine. I don't know what what how many starts in the regular season. Would it? Take for you to be like, okay, something's happening here with who. Sessa? Start like good starts. Let's say five. Like five innings less than three runs. How many like? I can kind of believe me five five starts, you think. More or less who sold. Now, I need five to like if he's really like limited as walk problem. I'm kind of getting the if I wish to hubs from like October would hit me with a fucking sledgehammer right now hubs for three weeks ago. It hit you now probably point six zero spring training stature stupid, but everyone's like assesses back. I I just when Michael Kingstown. Minute says, the men kind of want believe guy, Michael king. I'm sure he's a great guy. He's just hasn't been good guys. Is not a good guy. Still my roster spot. Other than that. We are coming. I mean, we're a week away from opening day or here one seven days seven fucking days. We get the Baltimore Orioles. If is it a must sweet. I don't want to say I don't wanna throw out the term must win. But opening day. I always want to open we kiss beat the Orioles at home Dorrell's on opening day God, especially April. I know this is the opposite. But early April order in March in this case, I I do care about the standing just early very early on. I care ton than I don't really care wants may hits. You'll totally forget, April even happened. You'll even right? You'll forget the fight. I want to get off to just and again, it's like PTSD from elementary school where the start one and two right in the Mets would start. I mean, we're phasing team that shoe in fifty five games right school being like, oh, this is the for finding. And it's just so I care a lot about those first tenor soak games for Karen every game. Yeah. But I mean, we'll talk in in may be like, you know, it's like man the standings. We're not right time to the standings. I am on on April. Second. I dialed into the stand the socks a little bit. And then once we get past the all star break, we'll resume standings check. But early on. I am locked into those standings Auriol's Tigers Orioles. I mean, that's nine games. If they don't go seven to a mucking. Not not gonna hit the panic button. But like six and three is the worst. Yeah. Like, we can't defunct they could Orioles last year, and they one hundred games. What's you add that in the Oriel winds, and we're looking at like fucking amazing Pasu record biggies Eason here. So gotta get on a good start. I mean that's a week away. We'll we're gonna have season preview. Now, you'll hear a week from tonight. But we're just looking at because it's exciting. I mean baseball's I'm watching the fucking Japan game at five thirty in the morning. That's how excited amber baseball. We have March madness Sarah point guard just got suspended for the term at that. Wasn't a great great new. So I'm almost done with March madness. Yeah. Fucking excited. So now, we got out amount of you know, oh my God. What was that autumn? Adam out of you know. Awesome guy. We met him. He narrow tell poolside interview we talked about it when we recap Tampa. But we were nervous about kids screaming throwing fuck and party down by this pool and kids did show up as we brought Adam down to the pool, and you were getting nervous you tell me like fuck. Fuck. Fuck screw. But he's awesome. I hate kids pool. Even grow growing up. The me too grown-up. I never wanted to play with kids on a pool on vacation. And whenever kids whenever I would see kids at a pool I like shit like they're asked to play catcher something. So it's just it's I can't escape and the now doing interviews with the Anki outside of a poll. I don't want kids at my whole life revolving around kids not being. So you're not gonna have kids getting at here. I guess so they're not going to polls in terms of Adam though, talked about a range of things ask them how he's dark wizard. You're going get into you're gonna listen to right now. It's great interview twenty minutes. Thirty minutes about a little over twenty five. Great, dude. So hope you enjoy here is Adam out of you know. We're here. Poolside with new Yankees reliever. Adam AVI, what's going on man, not much happy to be here. Awesome. So we'll get right into it. Why New York you? We're all happier here. But why did you choose New York is the freedom? If all things were equal. This is where I wanted to be joining one hundred one team, obviously, I'm for being from New York being Enki fan growing up that held some weight. But I think I don't know what was going to happen through free agency. And it just kinda worked out this way. Where the best thing was the best thing. What was the free agent process like having multiple teams after you first time we've really gone through your career? I think it was just a learning experience. It's not what you think it's gonna be basically a lot of teams check in and it's exciting early on. And then there's a lot of like waiting dead period of monitoring other guys markets things like that. So it's kinda hard to know when it's going to all come to a head during the winter, especially this winter kimbrel still out there. Yeah. Crazy. No. Yeah. It's it's it's a little scary. But ultimately for me, I was one of the. Lucky ones that had a number of teams like with real interests. So never freaked out too much in the back of your head, though was New York always like the play for the most part like if they reached a certain number like I'm going there because you know, you're from New York all that. Yeah. Yeah. Probably unless there was some like other offer that couldn't blue water with a circumstance. I mean, there was definitely like a couple of places that like I had in mind that would be a great fit and the Yankees were obviously at the top of the list, and then they expressed interest early. So then, of course, right away like inside. I really wanted that two hundred million dollar contract came from royals probably Kansas City, right? You have one of the best arsenals I feel like in baseball, especially as a reliever at what point in your life. Did you realize like I just have? I'm just a dark wizard like basically, I make. I'm basically with wall pitcher in baseball. No, it's been a Evelyn. I mean, I've always had a ability to throw a lot of breaking balls. Those are the pictures. I liked when I was a kid and like just messing around my friends like playing catch like always trying to throw nasty stuff. Right. So fast ball. I was kind of a late bloomer with a fastball. So feel like the movement game was something I always focused on. And now that I got big and strong over time. And my fastball got decent like I've just always tried to incorporate the movement 'cause I knew that that was something that I had you know, for sure do cashiers just like hit you do back to the dugout after an inning. And they're like, why do you do that to me man, like me, actually? 'cause like, it's it's fun. Like, I think catching somebody a little bit like a little bit different than the other guys like especially like with our team now like our other. Main guys like all our rec super overpowering pitchers. So they just kind of set up, and it's like here comes see if anybody can hit it with me. There's a little more of a game. They're like thinking what's throw when throw it? And I don't know for me. Like, I like that stuff. And I think some of the catcher's do to how long does it typically take new catcher to get Justice to you? Yeah. They gotta catch me at least like three or four times. I think I it's like just for the action on the pitches. And then it's like maybe like the target cues that I like, and then and then like what I like to throw. I think I can be a little difficult because I don't I don't compromise on the pitch selections. Like what I wanna throw I'll shake like, I'll just keep shaking. I'm not really afraid to shake. So it takes for them to buy in. Yeah. So you said three or four times. Gary Sanchez may be eight times. He was actually going me. The other day did a good job. That everyone kind of knows about the whole Harlem clinic, and how you reinventing yourself just just talk about it a little bit in case people haven't heard about it. I mean, basically, I mean, it's a it's a cult story at this point scrapie. Yeah. I think the cool thing about it is that. You know in New York, there's really just nowhere to go. Like this is nowhere to throw like I dealt with that problem for a long time. And it's always been in the back of my mind. Like, even if I had just like a small little like Karaj type space. I could get something out of it. You know? And then luckily, I got this like eighty by thirty five space in Harlem, and my father-in-law it up and. It just couldn't have been any better. Like, nobody knew what was going on. And they're like, but yet there's hundreds of people outside the black on the windows. Right. Yeah. The windows are all blacked out. And like, it's very like, you know, Jerry rig like we got things hanging up like and all sorts of stuff. But but it was perfect. And it was like the type of environment where I kind kinda like go do my own thing. Go there at any time day or night, depending on what I had going on with the family, and like other other priorities, but still get my work in and like feel like I'm doing something that nobody else is doing. So there's always some fun in that, obviously it's far away. But do you think when you're playing days are over that can be like a business? You see yourself gotten into is running an indoor clinic like that. I don't know a lot of people like talked about it like right when they saw like people were like this could be a business like wildfire. Yeah. People were like, you could you could have people training here. Like and the market for like baseball training with kids. It's like crazy. I mean, people will pay anything to get their kid like one percent better. So if like you have like a cool situation like that technology. Jump on it. But like for me that I can't think about that right now. Like, I kept trying to tell people like it's not a business. Just like did you have going off to and like I have a couple of friends that will come like that are like other ball players. Like, you know, we grew in there. And like, you know, listen to good music and practice and stuff like that. So for me, it was just like it's not a business yet. Like this actually like literally just so that we can funny how in the article you you said you asked Matt Harvey because you're original mats moved to national crafts. Right. Matt harvey. And of course, Matt hobbies like we're all set. Well, like, so I saw him at the whole story as I saw him like two or three two winters ago. Maybe three winters ago at. Yeah. It was the year before I decided to the lab, and I saw him at union meetings. And I was chatting with him. I'm like, hey, I know you live in New York. Like, let's where do you throw? What's your situation? He's like oh actually throw down in the west village. And I was like, okay. It's a little tough for me to get there like amount Long Island. But like, let's let's figure something out together. Like, I'm going to get this space while blah, then he was like. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. No problem. And then like DM crickets, then I was like, I guess I'll just move the clock. He's left on red or just not even opened. I just I just think maybe I don't know. Some point. I don't wanna look. So one pitchy worked on there and one pitch. You say you love to throw is the slider. A lot of people think it's maybe the most effective pitch in baseball for those. That don't understand with simple minds, like us wise the slider so effective like my cider or some. I think just because it's a little bit different than other guys. Like, it's it's not like a hard sharp side. It's like a second curve ball kind of like from like a different angle. So I just think ultimately it's a pitch that the guys aren't used to seeing a lot. So it takes a Justin to and it says it's so much slower than my fastball to that. It's hard to look for one and hit the other. So that's kind of the dynamic there that I think has helped me the air in Colorado changes anything with your slaughter. And do you feel like it's different? It's different Yankee Stadium or any other place than in Colorado. Is there something to that one hundred percent like Colorado? We had the numbers like you could tell right away like being there like something's not right with your stuff like things are moving the same. But then we got the numbers, and we started figuring things out over my tenure there. Yeah. Balls. Just don't just don't move as much not enough air friction. You're just not going to get the same movement. So I had a good slider there, but it wasn't like really big on the road. And it was the toughest part is the adjusting of going on the road and having like really like heavily moving like shit, and then then being at home, and it's like kind of basic. Okay. The Yankees have this ideology. That's like pretty become very public that they are staying away from fastballs. Even though we have collectively as a bunch. I think the highest loss of any group fastball loss, but they love sliders. And all that have they talked about that have they haven't they haven't sat down with you. And be like, I mean, they probably don't have to sliders your pitch while they have a lot of info, I mean. But I think what they're trying to do is maximize the effectiveness of each individual pitcher like they're not gonna tell Britain stop doing his fastball because it's like elite. You know what I mean? And for me like nobody's gonna tell me stuff during my slider because that's how I get people out. So I just think the Yankees like are are fortunate enough to see some trends that work and kind of enlightened some of the pitchers like don't be so predictable with your fastball. But at the same time like if you have one hundred hour fastball, you're gonna throw it. So. I don't think you'll see Chapman going super slide. So only about a month into spring training. But what have you made of the culture so far and like how are you adjust? I mean, you're the new kid in school, basically, how you have friends. Well, I have a Mayhew Colorado, and I know too low, and I I've gotten a couple of other of the other guys like I knew Matanzas like for a long time. And you know, I've met, you know, obviously, everyone and try to simulate a specified can. But yeah, it's definitely like being the new kid at school for sure. Overall, culture is good like the guys are good. And which you appreciate coming here is like there's not a lot of gimmick stuff going on. It's all just about winning, and you can just tell right away that like like we expect to be there like in the end. So it's a little bit different than like, hey, let's like hopefully stayed healthy and have a good year. And maybe great thing could make him happen like America. Yeah. Colorado every year was all right around August run here and make something interesting maybe sticking as a wall card here. It's like if we don't win the division. We won the vision to twenty twelve let's look and go, so it's a little different. Who is your favorite pitcher growing up? Who did you model yourself after? I know your big Jimmy Key guy was. Yeah. Jimmy Key L do K David Cone for me. Those are the guys like because they they weren't overpowering guys. Like those guys identified with like rata curve balls creative out there different arm angles. I love sina. Those are those are my guys like basically just because you want to like somebody that you can relate to you know. So you're obviously a little more analytical than a lot of pitchers and you've talked about that before. But how do you balance the new school on with the old school just sort of feel? Yeah, I think that's tough. There's pitching fundamentals there stuff that like before you can really like execute a game plan like you have to be able to do basic shit like throw strikes and like throw like multiple pitches for strikes, and like repeat your delivery. And do a lot of old school stuff. That's still rings true. But once you get through that then like the analytic stuff the information game is just kind of helping you to make good decisions when you're on the mound and like adjustments over time. So that you can stay ahead of the hitter. So I'm always willing to take any info I can. But I try to remember my roots is like for me like the biggest difference between success and failure is like my mental game. So that's kind of old school thing. But like having a killer attitude out there like stuff that like my dad taught me when I was young. Like, the suffering matters with your stuff, you embarrass alive header sometimes there are some videos and YouTube that are laugh L hilarious, you happen to embarrass one of our former players, I think he's on the Phillies. Now Shane Robinson couple of days ago. And it was so bad that his back foot actually stuck out. He just had no idea what he was doing the poor guy himself on the pace in a foul ball, he took over for judge last year at did not go, so well, but Porsche around can you remember specifically like the most embarrassing moment. Like you've you've gotten to a hitter that you just like. That guy last year. I mean, I had a viral strikeout of Dan's Swanson, right here. Where like it was the pitch was so far outside that, you know. I I was surprised at catcher caught the ball wasn't embarrassing. I just felt like I can't believe he swung at that. I can't believe he caught that. I can't believe I got a strike out. There is like bases loaded like it could have been ball four walked in a run. And it was one of those things where I was just like kind of stunned by the whole situation. And then like they're making it out like that like that. It was like such amazing pitch. And it was like, well, I didn't really mean the throwing quite like that and just kind of happened. And but I don't know. I mean terms of I'm pretty good sport out there. I don't like to try to think about it. Like, I respect all the all the opponents. They're all super obviously, great players. You know, the only guys I don't love or the dodgers. So okay, talking about just like they can never get over the hump of the dodgers. And they like I probably gave up sixty percent of my runs to the dodgers. And they you know, they do it with their with their little bit of their swag. And I just felt like he wants specifically come to mind like. Everyone except for maybe Kershaw who. Other than like their whole lineup. Like great players. It's one of those things they're going to beat you let you know about it. So I always took a little bit of pride. If I did have a good outing against them kind of like fuck you guys. Well, your new version of that is the Boston Red Sox. Gotta hate them more than we got to see. So that sort of begs the question we're talking in Barrasso hitters, how badly would you embarrass Babe Ruth? I mean, you know, I said it already. I I agree with you. The thing is like I wasn't trying to like I wasn't trying to say like some people were like, oh, well, if he grew up in this era, that's not the it's not the Ermolai. Wait, I was making saying back then it was a different game. And I'm pretty sure have a good shot. That's all void. I think takes offense to he was on our other podcasts barstool starting nine. And he was basically like his guy. They asked him. If you go back in time who is you wanna see and he said, Babe Ruth. And then are the guy was like Beirut, essentially be Adam Dunn in today's era, and he'd like void got very. Really? So I feel like when he when he heard your, quote, he was kind of taken aback from that. I think some people just Babe Ruth is like he's a goat. So people look at him a certain way, but at the same time he was overweight drunk and and having hot dogs all the time during the game. So I don't know how in shape he could have been the. Don't you think if he was a modern player, he would be improved because he would have like modern, diet, and workout? I think that's possible. I think that's that's plausible. I don't I don't know bay personally. Seems like he was pretty content on doing it his way. But like little things I was thinking about too, and I made the comment like he's swinging like a forty ounce bat like you hit against any of us the forty ounce bat that would be a mistake. So he'd have to make several adjustments to make a fair fight. You went win number zero. And I know you didn't wanna make big seen. I've it, but everyone you got the green light. What was the you know, what what's the whole thing around number zero with you? Yeah. Just like I wore when I was a kid and then in high school, and then obviously with the Rockies it's like oh out of my dad came up with the idea. It's really just like kind of silly. Played like, obviously more than just pitcher as a kid. So it looks a little less weird. I think on a position player. And then now that I'm just a pitcher at definitely stands out in a strange way. But I think like over the last six or seven years, I've kind of forgotten about it. And then this year, it was reawakened when people were like, you think the Yankees you zero. And I was like she is. I don't know. I understand what the retire numbers mean. So. Get caught up in that. And people get upset about that like ghetto yourself. There is rushed or now where you have to get your number retired. Otherwise, be they only single digit number to knock Eric. I would assume. I would assume to play more than three seasons. Thank you. Really? Three really good season three years playoff MVP's or something. Cool. I'm not opposed to that the keys are strict. And you know, there was debate. Will they let you wear number zero. They also made you shave your beard was that just easier. Was it hard hard hard? Yeah. It's tough. I mean, I've just not used to it. Now, I'm going to share this morning. I'm gonna routine now like every other day, and I'm getting better at it. But it's not something I had to think about before have you have you got an situation yet where like you had a five o'clock shot, and they're like, yo you gotta cut that. They haven't said anything. But I said yesterday like they get on you. I've been I've been really like paying attention to other guys likes facial status. So I can see like what's the where the line is. It's definitely interesting. I think I think they should go away with it personally. But what I something? Something. You mentioned DJ LeMay who is know your friend on the team. And all that give us a little preview of what he's like, really? You know, he's he's new as you are, obviously he's very quiet, but like like as a personality, but he's such a gamer and like such a consistent player. And he's a guy that I've said this before like, you might not notice him like the first couple times you watch them play. But like he really grows on you to the point where you're like, this is my fucking guy. Like you want the ball hit to him? You want him up in a spot. He's got a lot of contact in his game, which is like kind of old school. What we need which is kind of like against these high velocity pitchers. Get a guy who can put the ball in play in a big spot get on base, and he's gonna use the opposite field, which is also nice for the stadium. So I think I think the Yankees got steel with him. Honestly, so move into something that's not baseball. We do social media stocking of every player before they come on stuff to talk about. I noticed. You don't have a Twitter, but you do have an Instagram the thinking on that. Yeah. Like I had a Twitter for a while like. But it was like like not like one that I could be found on psychic get my news and stuff on Twitter. But I felt like Twitter like you gotta have really thick skin to be a to be a ballplayer on Twitter. I'm even Instagram. I mean now shifting to over eighty game planning how to handle my Instagram at Yankee. Because it's way different like DM's just through the roof and comments on pictures and things like that. And even though I don't like really care about other people's assessment of my pitching. I don't need to see a lot of negative stuff. All the time. You know, I'd rather just keep it moving. So I still wanna post and put something out there like connect with fans, but at the same time like how do I stay insulated? So we've been trying to figure that out we in our line of work deal with a lot of criticism to and sometimes a positive things. I've always thought there should be an app just positively like, you could only say nice things. Otherwise does both. There's like a moderator there. This is you can only say your funny. Would you say Instagram's now your favorite phone? I've had it from for a long time. Like, I've always loved it. But a favorite apple my phone? I don't know. I mean podcast. I abs-. I'm always listening to. I'm a big believer in the format and obviously music, but yeah. For social Instagram. I noticed on your team. You have a lot of nature shots some stadium shots into photography's. Yeah. Yeah. You know? It's just something to do. And I have always been into cameras, and that type of stuff ever since I was young and we travel a lot. So I saw I don't want to forget about where I've been at that. Your New Yorker born New York lived in the Aussies, they're full-time. What's the worst part of living in New York? I mean, it was it was a dead guy in Penn station. Was there literally sitting down dead with a tarp over him and people were just walking by is it weird that that doesn't phase? I just hope it doesn't delay. My subway. Grew up in Brooklyn Brooklyn felt like a little bit more of like a little bit less congested than Manhattan now being in Manhattan the last several years. That's the worst part is just your options for getting around, especially if it's cold out are in very good like because you can't you're not gonna wanna walk somewhere really far if it's cold out. So then it's like cab over both like not great because there's traffic everywhere, and they cost money, and then like or you can drive, but then you'll never ever park, and there's also traffic so just like the congestion, I think if you're if you're inability if you have an inability to walk it becomes tougher so glass half full. What's the best part element of New York? Probably the fact that there's access to every everything the best of everything like as a kid. I always felt like if I was passionate about any one topic. I could go see the best thing. Like if I would have been into like opera music. I could you know, went to Lincoln center and seeing the best in the world at that. So you just have such a like the best of the world comes to you every year. And that's kinda unique the game of baseball. Changing in intensive the starting pitcher not necessarily being phased out. But there are just different strategies, obviously, Kevin cash. Raise comes up with bullpen napkin, probably be bigger this year, more people. I mean, they won ninety games with that. What are your thoughts on bullpen? And could you see yourself as an opener? Well, I think I think it's a move that you do like if that's kind of your route to winning like if I can't speak necessarily for the raise. But they feel like they have a couple of real starters and a lot of like Honda hybrid guys. So that's the model that works for them. I'd be surprised if we did a lot of it because we have such establish veteran. Type starting starting guys really solid guys. But I think it's a move that you do kind of like I said out of desperation for your roster. I mean me personally, I would do anything. I would open close do anything in the middle. It's not a big deal to me. But I'm not sure if the game is a better product with opener. Not so we'll see how it evolves. This year. A lot of possible. New rule changes. One of them is the three batter. Minimum for reliever as early yourself. How do you feel that you like probably don't like that? Right. Well, my initial my initial thought on it was like you're taking a guy's job away. But then I was like what you're probably giving more diversified pitcher job. Like instead of just being a lefty specialist now you're rewarding somebody who can get like both sides out probably to make the roster. So that could be good. But just in general like telling a guy how to use his his when to bring in his weapons is like not really what the game's all about. So I'm not in love with the idea. But I'm either vetting it out a little bit this year in the Atlantic league. You can see how that plays out. So we were going to get some more of that. So they're they're trying a few different things. What would you think Rowbottom pirate home plate? How I feel like I've been I've been I've been wanting that for a while. Just and it's not because I don't respect on Pires. I do and I like I like the human nature of the game. I am old school. But there's there's so much on the line with balls and strikes, and it's such a hard job. Like, you can't you're not gonna get them. Right. Like, it's really hard. And I just think being that there's so much on the line with balls and strikes. It'd be great if we can get them right because. You know, they affect people's careers and the seasons like in ways that are like really hard to hard to calculate wouldn't be less fun. Yelling at a robot though. Yeah. Although I try never to get empire. Because it's like, it doesn't do you any good? You want them to call? You wanna lose lose more pitching to give more bitches? Yeah. What about a pitch clock? I don't like it. I'm not for me. I mean the game. I I don't I don't like I don't like the clock between the innings. I mean, obviously, we want things to go in a timely manner. But I think like the clock is just not a thing that you for decades. And decades you went and saw a baseball game. And now to have a clock right in your face like as like hurry up and come set. And I don't know. I'm not a big fan of it between some of those rule changes. And you know, the free agency market taking so long to develop. It seems like there's building tension between players and owners, do you think we're headed for striking a couple years? I don't know. I don't know that it will happen. But I I will say this like the players are are very aware of everything that's happening. And really preparing for that possibility. Like, so I think if there was to be one like this would this would be the time. I'm just because like maybe the last couple negotiations like the players. It wasn't on our radar that that like a work stoppage could be a necessary like tactic. But I think the guys have really like really been paying attention to the last two years and really starting to ask the larger questions and even the young guy. So I think that the guys are more connected now than they probably were over the last ten years. And I think that's that's a powerful thing. If you could steal one pitchers pitch. Let's say the history of the game. Not even now who would be to just add the arsenal. That's a tough one. I mean, it'd be nice to have that Jordan Hicks hundred and three months. Springstreen for one week. You're just adjusting tickets and one oh three. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. It's also weird that he didn't have as many strikeouts. You'd think with that. But he also added a slider this off season. So that's yeah. Willing to bet that he's gonna strike a lot of guys this year. I think he's gonna learn figure out some things there was some more sliders figure out maybe four seamer. He's gonna punch tickets if he's the National League. All right. So before we start her up to more kind of just random well once a question one is an assessment question. Just what are few of your pet peeves? You seem like you might keep a list of pet peeves? Olis'? I I have a less. I I don't know if that's a common thing. But what what are some things that bother about baseball? No, just now life life, New York life. New York City bicyclists, really. Bay the rules of the traffic like they're just trying to cross the street and some guy just goes through red. I hate sane buildings that looked like houses, but aren't actually houses. What do you mean? There's there's buildings that they say oh nice house. But it's it's actually a dentist office or funeral home. That bothers me that's interesting. So weird. Any odd ones like that? I don't like smelly. Uber's or like anytime. I'm like, it's really I feel bad like giving people like low star rating or something like that. But sometimes I've been in a car were like a half to get out of this car. And I'm like, but that's your your job is to like create like a good environment in your car. That's the least you can do. And sometimes I'm like, this is just a torturous experience. And I've had that too many times in New York. Uber guy in the city sometimes. Well, just think. Yeah. It's just easier in particular where we are like to get an over to get attached. Better chance will smell better. Usually a better chance are that my other thing, and this is just tell me if this is true or false. You seem like you'd be into aliens and space, I'm into space. Score one for me. One hundred percent. But it's just it's more likely that they are than they aren't by a lot. But but but that that they'll come to earth or been earth that can't say with any certainty, but it's just the universe. Not to get too crazy, but the universe and the multi verse it so unfathomably fathom ably large and the way that we came the be is. So it could it could be done again under the right set of circumstances. And it just seems that many chances that yes that it would be I actually think it might not be that big the university. We don't know for. Sure, it's. Oh, yeah. Like, you know, we're expand. It's got to be big. But we don't know laugher. Sure. I guess we don't we haven't been there. I mean. Yeah. We have pretty good evidence. That shows if you could pick one MLB player to be an alien that you think like, oh, this guy could be Elliott who would. Chapman. Maybe. I mean, he's a freak. He's you know, there's some guys that are just different. They're different. Yeah. Now last question this bullpen is being hyped big time, and it kind of is every year of the Anki this year. It's I mean, we add you bring back Britain Dallin, we got Chapman. Even if Canley concern around green green. Do you like what is the potential here? Do you think this could be the best bullpen of all time? I mean, I think on paper. It's it's obviously very very six closers. Yeah. I mean, it we're just gonna have to see how it plays out. I I last year. I was on a pretty good on paper bullpen to and a lot of things when wrong and Colorado. And so I'm hesitant to like make predictions on it, but guys stay healthy. And they pitched the way they're capable of like sometimes I'm like wondering what I'm even gonna pitch because there's just that. There's that much talent. There's so many guys you don't even think about I mean holders. Good pitcher. I mean, you can tell and green. I mean, he's like arguably one of the best guys in the league. And people think he's like the fifth best guy. I don't know. That's crazy to think. So it's pretty nuts. D do you care about where you pitching like anyways phase out of the game? I just wanna pitch. I mean, I wanna pitch regularly. That's that's my biggest concern. Try not to pay too much attention to the situation. I'm in because you know, I I wanna come in and like dominate when I'm in there, regardless if we're winning losing or whatever I have a feeling you're going to be in very regularly with. Your stuff hope all the best to you. I I look forward for all the viral strikeouts. That you're gonna have this year hopefully against JD Martinez. Mookie Betts this meal. But thank you for coming at them. Bustle? Bustle? Thanks, guys. Thanks. All right. And that was adamant of, you know, thank you so much for coming on. He seems like a guy we're gonna have on gin think he enjoyed it. He likes parcel. He's gonna have a point four Yara. He's going to be a wizard very happy to be friends friends. I think we're friends with. Oh, yeah. When I meet a person their friends of that caliber. He's very interesting guy thought, you could tell very cerebral about thing through thing. That's why the question he thought. Oh, that's why news Elian guy here. That's the replay. Or you're your space guy. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. And interesting guy and rooting for him. Obviously he's going to be incredible this year, especially if Delon's injury lingers a little bit. He's gonna step up big time in that row that I mean that bullpen is gonna be unbelievable. And he's going to be hopefully, big cattle of it love that. He's from New York New York guy, you know, group Yankee fan wish him all the best. So adamant of you know, you are friend of the show, and hopefully we'll come on again. Once you're into the swing of things. My biggest takeaway from that is that he's his sliders. And even better when he was like, yeah. Like, my daughter wasn't that good in Colorado. Wasn't that good? Where after? I just wanna see him mowing down the Red Sox having no idea what to so. That was cool. We're going to give you Tyler raid on Monday show. We are in a barbershop that was very interesting. Hopefully, his hip is okay by then seems like every said about it because that's how time works. That is how time works. Thank you for explaining to the listeners, but we'll be back Monday. And hopefully, no more injuries. Please. 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Silicon Valley professionals pay it forward with the help of this mobile app

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Silicon Valley professionals pay it forward with the help of this mobile app

"This podcast is supported by linked in learning. We're all at different places in our careers. Some of us are just looking for a job. Others are trying to get promoted manage a team or do something new wherever you're at linked in learning has more than thirteen thousand courses taught by industry experts to help you succeed in your own way, anytime anywhere. It features. A vast range of business tack and creative skills. Employers are looking for visit linked in learning dot com slash learn for free to get a month free and to keep learning in all the career moments that matter to you. And primarily driven by leveling the playing field and creating economic opportunities for more women into workforce. Welcome to the Yahoo. Finance presents podcast. I'm Alexis Christopher as March is women's history month and more than a hundred Silicon Valley professionals are paying it forward mentoring, a hundred thousand female students and recent grads. It's a grassroots effort. And it is the brainchild of chara Sharma. She is the CEO and founder of the mentoring mobile app, next play dot AI. And she joins me today on this podcast from San Francisco. It is great to have you here. Charro how Alexis I'm excited to be here. Thank you for having me. Oh, it's our pleasure. So this initiative, I mean, this is really impressive because it began by word of mouth. I mean, you basically called some friends in in Silicon Valley and said would you help out and mentor, and then I guess they called a friend, and they called a friend and here you are with over a thousand companies participating. Yes. That's exactly how it happened. I think it really seeks to people sent him into staying forward, especially women in the workforce. And the last couple years they've seen a lot of initiative movements like time's up neat. Need doing anything? There was a lot of emotion in this world that needed to be channelled constructively. So I think this is a great opportunity for a lot of professionals to come forward. And then offer just thirty minutes to hardly women entering the workforce. And why is it a women at that stage in their careers? Recent grads very early on in their careers. You believe it's important to start the mentoring process. Very early on. Yes. To well this March we wanted to focus on them, and who I entering the workforce. Because I think people talk about this last ceiling, but actually the sticky floor that hits you way, before so this gender gap, including the fee, Athens shooting the project you are assigned. It starts refers job itself. And then the that keeps compounding overtime. And then that that really rose up and we wanted to help the women their first job itself. So were we have reputed men Mentese who are in universities, and whoever we can graduate, and we're continuing to find out more mental as well as mentors. Now. Let's be cleared. The mentor is do not have to be women. You have men and women who are mentoring these young women. Correct. That's right. And tell me why that's important, right? Because there was a backlash after the metoo movement. A lot of men said they felt uncomfortable. Having to spend any time alone. On with the woman in that could in the long run hurt. Her ability to to move up within her company. Absolutely. I think it's really unfortunate that we thought his backlash. It's unforeseen backlash offer me too and fill a lot of executives. A lot of really senior and powerful people are not comfortable both indoors connections with them anymore, which really hurts us. And I pleaded with myself when I was raising money in Silicon Valley from these days. So I have empathy for that and for sites, but I think an opportunity like this piece a safe space and the right intentions for everyone involved. The we say a lot of allies and a lot of really powerful men signed up for this initiative that our executives from, you know, every company even name it. It's lift Linden Salesforce. Facebook survey monkey and Silicon Valley, but also in India and Israel and Judah in Jerusalem. They're hosting a bunch of events now to complement this movement. And it's really amazing how this grassroots movement is really just inviting. Hundreds of thousands of people now, and I'm excited to see what would come of it, and whether or not it can be an annual event, you know every March for women's month. Of course, you'd like to think it happened sort of all year long, right? Yeah. Good. We'll sign me up. I'd love to I'd love to mentor. I think it's I think it's it's a fabulous 'cause for men and for women. So this idea of mentoring has really been a long running fem- for you throughout your career. You founded next play dot AI this mobile app two years ago, and you already have some really big name clients. Right. Coca Cola square, lift tell us how you are using a I to help these companies mentor and retain their workers. It's a very tight labor market today and companies are desperate to hire more and more people and actually over sixty percents of fortune five hundred companies they're going through digital transformation. So within the next two years, they're going to change their business model, which means they're going to quiet, a totally different skill sets for their workforce. And they have to do two things. They have to hire a lot and second they have to upskill their existing workforce. And this really applies companies at any size usually have to obey your work. We're fortunate that I killed three daddy for tomorrow, which is very uncertain. And so what we do is we both mentoring programs would been companies internally so employees can learn from each other and build a culture of learning and sharing and mentor chip. So let's say would take colored slunk as an example, they're both our clients. So we go into the company employees. Download our. Mobile app. They fill out some questions, the doctor the AI, and they tell the AI about their goals and preferences, and then we matched them in the mentally the mentors within the company scales. The matching is the biggest place where a is used today. We take into account not only the goals, they tell us, but we also predict and that again ver the I consent. The we predict what could they need be and how that affected by say their gender their stage in life. If it's a woman who's going on that leave what what stages she in? If it's a black female engineer. How does she feel and what might you need, you know, that we take a lot of those things into account, and it's a very inclusive algorithm and over ninety five percent of the people with matched have not more than three times. So that's that's pretty very fat. And then often the matching the app, actually. Also gives you Brits allies nudges. So if you're my nintee- or Alexis you and I are matched. If our first meeting is coming up tomorrow, then the app thing, and it will give us some conversation, topics. Okay. Is having that conversation prompts? Okay. Yes. And if you and I haven't met and safety weeks, then it will remind us to schedule the next meeting. So it's really smart like that. Oh, it sounds like it's super smart, and I like the idea of mentoring people while they're within the company, I think too often once they've got the job sort of we think the mentoring should should stop. And and also my question to you is is mentoring. Just a young person's thing or can somebody should somebody be mentor? D- different stages of their career. That's a big question. I don't think it has anything to do with your age. I think it has to do with the growth mindset, and especially in this rapidly changing world, we all generation need to be constantly building our skills because we have to say Delvin for tomato in the workforce. Right and see so many use cases for our products for reverse mentoring, large companies come to us, and they want to fair that executive and senior leaders to actually the incoming workforce. Because they want to understand how young do you wish with today's? Right. So many of these inns life people across every generations should be mentor and should find him in tourists. But I think goals really personal. So it could be hugely win by what's going on in your personal life. The we have a client, and they're big companies live in it outward decade. And we had a men T who was going on that lead, and she became when banks to the mentor reassigned door and thanks to the mental conversation. She had she became the first woman at her company to get promoted by aware, not least. Wow, huge this. That is pretty huge. That's a nice phone call to get while you're on maternity leave. Hey, you know, what you gotta promotion. That's awesome. So tell me about why when you're speaking to the mentors. Why do they do this? And does any of this ever really result in people finding jobs? Absolutely. So I think the number one dry is definitely altruism. They wanna pay for where they want to help someone and I think that sentiment than humans should not be underestimated, right? Giving us that you're giving us faith again renewed faith in the human spirit. I I think beyond thing forward by being a mentor, you can truly develop your leadership, managerial and mentoring and coaching skills. So we see how mentors benefit as much as the main tease after after a period of time, and that is into then getting ahead and ears by building gross engine relationships across the company by understanding the big picture by getting empathy for the men t by becoming better coaches off tonight questions about solving and the third set the third biggest dry of action needs to build a invite line. We see a lot of mentors offer coaching somebody or mentioned somebody's for few months often. They'll coach them, you know, hey, come work on my team. Actually, they right. So that's pretty common and setting up internal mentioned programs can really help the company create internal mobility where instead of losing your employees. You actually keep your employees as long as you help them. See a clear. Good thoughts within the company if they have a fashion house them live bit at your company and don't just lose them. Yup. When they feel like they're being valued. It's amazing. How much they want to keep on working for you? You have a very unique story, and I think very inspirational one, and I'd love for you to share it with us. I know that you are an immigrant from India. You're actually out of college not that many years ago. A you're quite young to have accomplished all that you have and you founded to award winning startups while in college before being recruited by linked in. So. You had a lot on your plate. What was your inspiration for coming to the United States? And for starting the companies that you have. Saying I grew up in India in a family where remember not allowed to work. Have you know, and I think that had motivated need to do all these things because from deep within I'm an primarily driven by leveling the playing field and creating economic opportunities for more ruined into workforce. And I came to the US on the scholarship, and when I entered the workforce, I very quickly realized how it's definitely not a level playing field in the US either. And would stop you from because I'm I'm curious to know sort of your your personal experience. How what did you find was different like when you entered the workforce here in the US? What was surprising to you as a young woman? So I think for everyone than me leaving virtually and enter the workforce purchaseable, you're on your own for the first time. There are no thoughts or structure today that I know, you know, it's not like a freshman and sophomore at height, and everyone goes through this huge light stage shift and two that's gay to begin with. But on top of sucks, especially for women and people of color the workplace rules are not established to optimize for your success. The way need a chip is perceived the microaggressions on a daily basis, though, I were death Lincoln, which is one of the great company. They have an amazing culture great leadership and even there early like I used to face backlashes for being emissions just bid vice I would get on a daily basis. You know, I I saw how in just the first couple years in the workforce, my confidence level dipped and my emission levels. And I would Meghan guess myself so much and the already having Boston syndrome to begin with. And then you couple that with. Just people, you know, not incentivizing you. In fact, feeding lazing you for often for more responsibilities or, you know, wanting to do bigger things, and that really hurts women, and and you know, for that even this month of March me, especially wanna do focus on young women were Jeff ended in the workforce because we wanna help them with resources knowledge in would support system pretty early on talk to me about the companies you founded while in your dorm room, you know, that sounds a little familiar. There's a little company called Facebook. That did the same thing. What what did you found while you were in college? Yes. Who I truly truly believe in the power of mentoring and role models. I mean, that's what I'm doing next let, but when I was in college, I interned at a startup in my sophomore year, where the seal was a very young man, and he was of Indian origin. And I think I didn't realize at the time. But because I saw him running the company that would actually you funny, you mentioned Facebook, it was started by visiting and think of walkman who from the Facebook scandal. And I think just seeing somebody I identify with when a company was huge mentor. The next time when I was in college when I saw this problem, I immediately just those at the nation, and I wasn't trying to start a company I just wanted to solicit it, and we were connecting graduating students to alums of the Decian do. To had interviews and bad for their job interviews, and it was a phone that my had because when they would apply to consulting jobs. They would want to prepare for interviews and your centers are not they quit. And so it was a it was a little problem, I signed then I book information and something became out of it. And then I think about habits or or that little step to songs for something soon became our habits. And you know, then when I saw another issue, then I started the company then I saw the the lack of role models. And so then I started Bill Gates flow that we talked about two years ago where we told stories of successful female, founders to a million women around the world by documentary fog, and again, you know, that speaks to the power of role, models and mentors. You can see a theme and everything that I've done it. I think it's really about the next thing. People would gene and Delon's to the dry support. System and mentors who can help them. Get ahead. You know, I don't have to tell you that the cards were were kind of stacked against you. When you came here to to do what you did. I mean, you were when you started next play you were fresh out of college. You were a female. You didn't have a lot of experience. But you're whippersnapper smart. We can all tell that. And you are ambitious and you have this calling to mentor people. What was it like for you? When you started to hit the pavement and find funding for your startup. That's it was really hard and. I think it helped that I spoke into founders. We're got started before because I understood what I was going into. Although, you know, it it's really hard to exceed it yourself. No matter how until you're in it. Right. Right. Yes. Absolutely. And I have been in so many dooms where the male VC's would just look at my chest. When I was pitching to them, you know, and if I took my meal co-founder with me they look at him even though I am pitching. And I'm talking about the number, and I know the numbers I'm the CEO, but they would keep looking at him. And they would ask him the right question him the questions the men he would defer to me I would answer again the follow up to him, and it really gets to you. But I just I had to be patient and over one fifteen bastards told me, no. And it was really hard. But we just kept doing, and you know, because I didn't started this company to have an IPO to have an exit. I started. The company because they really wanna sold for this problem. So I just got going and I need that'll get they don't fund me. Then I'll find other sources, but thankfully, we found some investors. So we we're backed by five hundred startup executives from Linden Salesforce tech crunch a couple of DC firms through ultimately, you were able to find some people who got behind the mission. And it really just takes a few to get started. You did you find that? When was because recent studies have shown that when women go out for funding for their startup investors. Potential investors, ask them different questions than they do men were. They ask them those same questions. But in a different way, did you experience that? Yes. Oh, absolutely VC's are known for pattern matching they and that's not the optimized for their success in deterrent and. They have seen the people who are wildly successful, the founders matern. They look like, Mark Zuckerberg, and he jobs, and they're right men. And it's so funny when a young man, and and their studies that have been done, I'm not just making it up when a young man goes into just VC. They'll think oh, wow. He's an expert decker break when a young woman does business to them. They'll think oh she hasn't seen the road yet. How would you? Visit you know when when an older man due to pitch to them Bill. Thank oh, he's mature. And he has exceeded he's going to meter and then same if Lindos they'll think oh vote. She probably she's waiting to have good soon or she already has kid, and then bad just somehow means that oh, she cannot work hard. And it's it's bizarre ridiculous. But I think this is a stomach issue. And what needs to happen is we need to have more women writing checks and not just a few. But enough of the actually have a seat. On the table, and they don't feel like minorities in health less than south and their workplace. So about a year and a half ago, a bunch of female VC came together and started always you might have heard of fence. And so they're constantly helping fun of more women in BC. And then there are more women writing checks, I think that look severely just turn the tables and create more female founder like myself. Yeah. A recent survey by IBM found that just eighteen percent of senior leadership at companies around the world belong to women. So we may have come very far. But we have we have far to go chara Sharma CEO and founder of next play. 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End of life care and coronavirus

Talking Cancer

22:25 min | Last week

End of life care and coronavirus

"What end of life support is available in a global pandemic. Hello i'm a and welcome to matt. Mullins corona virus series of talking cancer. You might have already listened to previous episodes in the series in which case while combat. And if it's your first time joining us. This is a podcast from mellon and boots. Well i talked to experts to get answers to the questions. Million is hearing the most today for our final episode in the series. I'm talking cancer with adrian. Betty who is the strategic advisor for end of life care at macmillan if somebody is pushing into the life they are entitled to benefits this the fifteen hundred which is a banish it for people who have got candidates. We're going to talk about coming to the end of your life. And what support is out there now. Corona virus is in the picture. And i do just want to let you know that. This episode contains content which might be upsetting for some business for anyone in need of support. Please do contact the macmillan support line. it's open seven days a week. Atm till eight pm and you can reach them on. Oh eight eight. Eight double zero double zero. We'll also hear some words of advice from the lovely dany bell. You might recognize her. From previous episodes in the series she's mcmillan strategic advisor for treatment and medicines and she's going to be offering some practical suggestions for those coming to the developed during the pandemic. if you have already started conversations with your family or people that are really important to you about what your wishes are out really encourage you to do that. women melon. I'm talking cancer Lovely to have you with us. Thanks so much for joining us. On the podcast. Great to have you with us today as we've done throughout the series. I'm gonna time stamp. This how you feel but i to me. The information guidance seems to be changing daily. We're recording this room on the twentieth of november twenty twenty and everything we discuss is correct at the time of recording. Now we're discussing a really difficult topic today and of life and i got no doubt that the pandemic has massively debated thoughts around this and i. It's a really emotional time for people at the best of times so adrienne telus wars. The pandemic meant for those who are coming to the end of their lives are still able to visit them at home. Can they get the hospice care. Support for example so many questions. Where do we salt. Okay so i guess amer. It's really worth acknowledging that irrespective of a pandemic so difficult for somebody that is approaching end up ended alive and for their families. The loved ones around them. So that's being made a million times worse for people. Obviously because of all the as he said the government guidelines changes in them. It really difficult to understand what you can and can't access from a support perspective and that's been really hard people another thing i i just wanted to talk a little bit better as well as what we mean by end of life care because i think sometimes people think he's just those last days minutes of life but actually you know when when health professionals talk about end of life care and particularly somebody with cancer is more about somebody who's got for instance an incurable cancer. But they may well have quite a long period of time to live and it may be year months weeks days hours of life. It can be any of those things where it's important that people do get. The supporters areas is possible to then have that continuity to develop relationships with the professionals. So what's what. Impact has the pandemic count. It's obviously made it more difficult. For people. I think particularly the owning the pandemic. It was really hard because people couldn't go to hospital thought they couldn't access services. Were really frightened. Which didn't take you help. People in accessing the support the need but i do want to racial people. They can get that support they can have. District is coming into their homes. You can still go to a hospice. You mentioned hospice daycare. So the helping some services that had to have to be adapted for instance oh some hospices have had to use that daycare and adopted and change into impatient provision in particular when there were more beds needed to clear early on in the pandemic But some of the services is still being delivered in moore's and outpatient and i guess the other thing is to acknowledge that actually health care professionals. Visiting people hiding particularly they really are trying to reduce contact so they don't want to spread the virus the being really cautious so the maybe situations where people are still accessing the services but it may be in a virtual way it may be by telephone it may be a video call and they have less face to face contact which is obviously hard for people. Because they won't see you know a real person in the flesh so to speak But they are still able to access all of those services. There's just expanding a little bit on the palliative care that people can expect at home and yeah that's been a particular concern that we've been hearing mcmillan. Can you just maybe dig a little deeper into what people can expect. And who they might talk to those pathways of communication in order to get the best out of that. Politics can expect at the moment so particular home. The are very different aspects appellative. Kelly can access to palliative care that they can get through the gp through that district nurses community. This is coming to their homes. Could be physio could be occupational therapist and it could be for instance mcmillan special peleliu team which may be especially pud canada's when things are more complex and i guess if people already struggling there are lots of other means of support as well so through local hospices in some areas not areas. There is a million support line which is available seven days a week eight. Am to eight pm. That can offer guidance and support. We got amazing web site. You know you can get all sorts of information on that and also boots pharmacies which rebelled sport people with a urgent supply and delivery of medication which is absolutely vital for people. Because obviously you know the moyal condition deteriorates more likely. You're going to need more complex. Medication can also get virtual -pointment with boots mcmillan information pharmacists. Who can give you and your loved ones and carries information about medication and any potential side effects as well as guiding people most fascist information support. So you can. Book of virtual appointment with boots boots dot com slash. One of the things that's creating the most things -iety amongst people patients relatives harrah's is consistency. A dream would it be fair enough to say. I think with the changing landscape as frequently as is On various areas of the country dealing with this pandemic in their own way to a degree area to area. The is still really important to check with your healthcare professionals. Because what might be a okay. One place isn't the oak is an okay in in another for example. Yeah absolutely fat to say and so there is different provisions across the uk. Know even the fact that we've got four nations who have different guidance so it's really important even within your own country within your own local area if you're being provided support by a healthcare provider for instance they may have different rules and regulations so each hospital will have their own policies about visiting things like that. The community teams will work slightly differently again to fit in with the local needs in the local services. So you absolutely do need to check in with whoever. Your point of contact is whether it's a specialist punter cavernous whether it's your melon nurse that the hospital and whichever the provider is it might be. An acute oncology nurse for instance but but do speak to them about what you can access. We're in the middle of a pandemic. And i guess one of the biggest worries seem so obvious really Is that what happens if somebody is coming to the end of their life and they catch corona virus. What what happens. Then i mean. That's it's hard to believe that. But i'm of course it is in a might happen. What should they do if they're getting symptoms. Yeah so obviously somebody who potentially might be having still palliative chemotherapy approaching their ended. The lives in his going to be for instance. You're more susceptible but that would be the case. If we went in mitzvah pandemic can they could be more settled. Things like a chest infection. So don't feel too alarmed. You know lots of people managed to cope with coronavirus have not. Don't have extreme symptoms. Sometimes people just have lots of taste with might have you know a persistent cough or whatever but it's really really important that you notify your health provider and try and get tested as quickly as possible and follow all the government guidelines as you would in any situation too so it's about reducing any contact about tran stain isolation but i want to reassure people that can still get the support that they need even if they were to get grown virus and they were tim. Instance I don't think it's a news tool that. Of course the pressures on the chest and the pressures on healthcare services are immense during this time and how everybody is dealing with. This is definitely affecting people's care for all sorts of different conditions war if people are being discharged to go home but feel that they haven't been sent home with the right support the right care package. What happens if you are a relative or a career and your concern that people have been sent. I really confident that everything is being done. That could be yeah. I'm not. I can sometimes happen. Even monotony pandemic. so it's really important to get in touch with your local. Gp surgery who can put you in touch with the community nursing team so you can expect to be able to have a visit from a community staff nurse or district s who come out and do listrik assessment. That look all of your needs in your home. they'll think about. Do you need a bed. Downstairs for instance you know how you got access to a toilet or the really practical things as well as you need tools to think about new all you getting the right benefits because that's really important particularly in the current climate when you know people really struggling financially And if somebody is pushing into the lives they are entitled to benefits. So there's the fifteen hundred which is a benefit for people who have got punditry candidates and that can be fast tracked if you are approaching into your life and your gp can sort that out all your melon s But again if you're not sure then please do get in touch with on sport line and they can point in the right direction and sticky on the support line around the finances and we do have benefits gieco which is fantastic. You can do an online check if you getting your benefits or if your loved ones getting the right benefits so i would really urge people to to make sure they do get the right support but it is out that and they can get it. So what are the effects of the pandemic as you. You know clearly explained is that they you know there was pressure on resources and contact is reduce which means that sometimes there may be family relative friends who find themselves in the carrying role That would normally begin by end of life care to buy healthcare professional. She's quite. it's quite scary overwhelming experience for a lot of people. How can they best support their loved ones the end of their lives. And what does the guidance so faw allow for so again. Even when we're not in a pandemic often people do get involved in the care and support of delon's at home because the there isn't usually the twenty four seven support the e would hope to be able to get when when if you are looking after somebody you may get involved in doing some of their personal care things like that. You may be involved in supporting giving the medication for instance but they can still access the support from the community teams. You can talk through all of this whether it's virtual whether it's you know kamala show them how to do things said the won't be alone on a really. Want to reassure people than not to learn and also we need to make sure the carries themselves supported so they're entitled to a carries assessment. The may be other sorts of support that they can get and again they may be entitled to to benefit from sowell's so again it's really worth phoning pau madman support line to see what and talking to and what they can get on like practical basic question so for example if if relative needs to move in with Somebody that they they are then going to look often. He's the i mean. Is that allowed at the moment. So people are still allowed to provide that care for somebody at the end of life and they do have to follow the guidance but the best thing they can do particularly to ask the healthcare provider so speak to their specialist. Patrick kane is for instance millionnaires millionnaire speak to their gpo district. S and just ask what what is feasible. But nobody would stop somebody being with their loved one at home if they were caring for him and obviously people are using their own sensible pragmatic judgment about supporting loved one. Because it's so important to be with somebody isn't it is absolutely crucial. So just just to be clear at and if you are finding yourself in the carrying Role at the moment during the pandemic not expected to take on that role as the healthcare professional. All you oh absolutely not so you may end up doing some practical things supporting your loved one. I home but that wouldn't mean you do bidding really complex things like you know administering high doses of medication or dating with really complex kassar. Anything like that. That would be delivered by a healthcare. Professional will still be delivered by a healthcare professional just briefly as well you mentioned. Obviously we need to make sure that all carriers are looked after In terms of Support out there for carriers you know this is someone only ended the line if this is all too much on occasion and you need you need to offload and and really on some support that way. Yeah unusually The community teams who are providing that support are also there for the karen not just the individual themselves but there are lots of the sources of support so again almonds port line. Is that a people. Please do phone up. Get that support their other sources of support. So there's booklets around carrying for somebody at the end of life is a guide about that is also abbots mcmillan information pharmacists. Who mentioned earlier. It can also support carrozza loved ones so do make him an appointment. Virtual was beaten in store and there was some fantastic organizations as well like an uk who will offer support and advice address. Please go anywhere. Stay with meat. We'll talk more in just a minute questions about cancer. The it's a mcmillan. Your side from the moment to diagnosed through your treatment and beyond our beads mcmillan intimation pharmacists on hand when specialists support from helping you make sense of your diagnosis to advice about living with cancer you can find them. In your likud's fomc online via video appointment visit dot com forward slash mcmillan for more information subject to pharmacist availability at gm. We've been talking a lot about what might mellon. Support line is hearing from Colas walking people do to feel more in control at a time when everything fails uncertain. Even when we're not in a pandemic there is so much uncertainty about and life care and autumn living with 'em constitute treatable but not curable they are living with uncertainty and trying to maintain hope one thing that people find really beneficial is having a really good conversation with your health care professional and it's really important to have open discussions that the professional will tell you around. You know about your prognosis about what you can expect. What treatments choices. There are one of the best ways to do. This is to have what we call in advance care planning conversation. is wilson. Scotland anticipate very care planning. And that's where eighty about nurse or dot talking to you and saying what matters to you what's important to you then being able to write down your preferences and wishes and think about things like if you lose capacity he would you want to make decisions on your behalf And actually naming that person things like would you want to refuse specific treatments at the end of life and when people have those conversations of really really hard conversations to have but actually people feel quite empowered and it does almost instill a sense of hope because people feel is sensitive. Okay after not of soltau fares and will dry would have also written by will talk about my funeral. All of those things then enables them to think about the here and now on the quality of life and trying to get the most out of life so that is a really empowering thing to do and i really would employ people to have those really good conversations and taught elephants about what matters to them as well. I mean it seems like that would be one of the most difficult things in the world to do. But i instinctively understand the kind of Space to breathe that it gives you once. That's once that's done have to say with my mom. She went when she was dying. She had suffered. You'll cancer and she went upstairs with him nurse and had a private conversation. I felt a bit left out to the time but we talked about it afterwards and when she came downstairs she said oh adriana she said i feel so relieved. I didn't realize i could die at home. I plant which batum going to die. Don't want to be in the same bed as you dad. I know what support can get such a sense of relief to have out in the open to talk about it into know what to expect. And that's hugely powerful people. I guess as well. I imagine never forgetting Family members There's always somebody on the end of the nine am a. We know that million. If you're struggling absolutely and i would urge people to do that and particularly for those who are bereaved well so bereavement support is variable across the country. Sometimes how people have to wait to access it. But the and support line is a really great sense for peop- great source to people to actually phone up and just have a listening ear at the other end because sometimes that's all people need just some digital to how they're failing because particularly for grief and loss it's a normal part of of living and dying isn't it you know we we will experience it. Of course of course of course an amazing to talk to you especially with such a sensitive and difficult topics such a bizarre time that we're having at the moment. Thanks so much you take thank you now took to dany. Who is back to give us some practical advice for people coming to the end of their life in a pandemic. I everyone on dany. Might recognize me from previous podcasts. On mr tj adviser and i work commitment said just a few For people around and of life care my first hip. And i'm probably the most important is if you haven't already to compensations with your family or people that are really important to you about what your wishes all round where you want to be careful as you want to do. Except that i would really encourage you to do that. And we have some really good tolls. That can help you do that molin. We have an advanced care plan planning booklets on it. Gives you general information on how to talk about your preferences and your wishes with your family any legal issues so if you need to give power of attorney to anyone against the second tip would be that it would be really nice view to involve people that you care about in the practicalities so that you do things alone. If you haven't got will it's really nice to involve you'll family in that. Say that they know and also kind of think about the support services that you want to draw ronal would help your family and i guess finances is often the thing that people worry about and we do have a guide for end of life care but again has sections in around Getting financial help and also some information in that for you relatives on a guest. Lastly is really important to maintain contact with people on maintaining activity on. It's hard. it's hard at the moment with with restrictions but they're all ways to do things safely to still enjoy that human contact and get fresh air and undertake other activity. So was it's a really difficult time. Probably for you and your family. You know i would. I would absolutely stresses kind of those sorts of things are really important. Thank you so much for that day. Nisam really useful advice. That for more information about the topics adrian and i have talked about in this episode head to our website. Mcmillan dot org dot. uk forward slash talking cancer. There are lots of really helpful resources on there as well as details about where you can reach advice and support. Please use them. It's also where you can find out more about donating to macmillan now that takes us to the end of this series and the last six episodes of gone so quickly it's been so fantastic talking to so many different experts at mcmillan and boots to answer your questions. Remember you can still reach mcmillan on my support. Line seven days a week eight. Am to eight pm on oto eight. Eight hundred eight double zero double zero all reach out to a boots mcmillan information pharmacist. And you could do store online. If you've enjoyed the series. Please give us a rating overview and helps others defined. The full costs more easily. Thanks so much for listening. I'm a talking cancer is a macmillan. Cancer support cost.

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Episode 22 Brothel Christmas Carols with Aria Quinn from Kit Kat Ranch

BunnyRanch Podcast

27:50 min | 1 year ago

Episode 22 Brothel Christmas Carols with Aria Quinn from Kit Kat Ranch

"Doughty D. if it ain't going down at the bunny ranch it ain't going down at all. Stolen hello hello and welcome looking back listeners to another episode of the Bunny Ranch podcast. Hi there I'm your host. Alex little who also happens to be illegal sex sex worker at the world famous Moonlite Bunny ranch located in Carson City Nevada. This week I have an amazing wonderful awesome spectacular and gorgeous like the highlight though like we had a whole conversation before this about makeup. The songstress herself sell a low. Hello everyone I'm glad you're here too. It took a minute I actually got back from Colorado so I went home for about a month month. Okay is that. Why did you bring this back with think I did yes? Yup It is take it back nowhere. No we love the snow. Oh my gosh see. I both love that. It's like oh my gosh. It's beautiful white. It's cleaning but at the same same time so call. It is so called and I don't want to go into it but I mean I would love to look at it and dislike watch movies and look at my window and see some snow and drink some hot chocolate. Yeah that's the way to lay out a really nice sheepskin rug in front of the fire. Little like hot cocoa and cookie is Jason Cuddle with pajamas optional. After all naked gotta say a little Jojo for the holidays. He deserves Christmas for sure. Yes so you're from Colorado. But you do this full-time yes so I actually am going on for about. It's been almost about a little over four years that I've been here so I just I love this place. They have so much to offer sure. And it's just everyone's just so heartwarming. And they all the staff member just want the best for you and so I just. That's what I love about it and it's it's super super safe and I just. I just have a blast every single time like I came back I think it was it was on Sunday. And everyone's like Oh my God Arias Bag. The vibe and the house is so much better you know so. It's it's nice that people actually do remember you. It's not like going to work a nine to five or anything like that. You actually build like relationships and families so it's is true and people are always so surprised me describe this being such a familiar type company since that we really do create bonds and relationships with each other alert that goes so deep and I mean it's not just because we all interact to girl. Parties are really being almost like the world's sexiest sorority. I feel exactly yeah. All my friends by calmer does like what is it like. I'm like it's literally like a Sorority but we just have sex we need right. There's like funny ranch sorority. That is twenty five hours a day. Yes yes yes. Talking of twenty five hours hours of day how how do you spend your. What is a typical day in the life of a fulltime legal convention? Look like Well you know my might shifts The last time I was around eleven but switched to two o'clock so I'm a night owl but also a morning person I get up early. You know so I go on. I make my coffee. If it's not coffee then I love yes they set your but you know days that I'll like I have set days that I'll go work out and then they'll be days itis gone. I sit and have a conversation with the cashier. You know sometimes even get on shift early you know it just depends make myself a nice nice breakfast you know some days. You know. It's like Monday. Mornings are doctors. So you gotta get up. Get ready for that. You GotTa do all my stuff beforehand. Essays I just like like to sleep in and enjoy it before you get up. You know work all night until two. AM or four am so but it's fun. And I I like it and you know. It doesn't take me that long to get ready. You know I am very very naturally. I wear a limited amount of makeup. You know so I was GONNA say talking earlier in nursing highlighter. Little that a miscarriage. Unlike tyler is just like gorgeous. I mean you already Kaleem and it's okay. So what's for breakfast. Walk me through what you're having for breakfast here. I'm I I normally go with if I'm doing something easy then audited like yogurt and Granola rescue. or I'm really big on like cooking. I like to cook so I'll do like a spinach. Mushrooms and peppers and tomatoes. He does and Bacon in it. Oh yes extend it like a scramble like having toast on the side but are we do. What's our carbs situated? So well there might be some toes on the side or I might just throw it all on a sandwich and sandwich okay. That is this amazing sucker for egg sandwiches exam which he's like. Oh my God. I went to Japan and like the egg salad that same which is like a central icon from their Senator Levin over there like if you traveled to Japan. You're supposed to eat like this. It's like legendarily good and who yum yum man trouble. I'm like bring you bring you back stuff to do and I'll make you food too. I'm I'm really big on making food to make you dinners. Yes I was GONNA say. Do you oftentimes Cook through your guests Yes I've actually done that one time before. And we wear in the the bungalow and I sat there and We had our party and then we had a little bit of time Randall. The store really quick and I'm big on Salmon. I Love Salmon and so it makes a big big salmon and I put butter olive oil and I squeezed like fifty frigging limes on him or lemon. I'm in sorry yes I love citrus stuff and capers on Capers Love Cape May Melt. This started won the Eh up so funny because my client. He didn't know what it was. He was like why do you. Why are you putting your salmon? CAPERS stays trust me a hairdresser salmon and then the butter is just like the best is when the salmon just melts in your mouth and it had to worry about being dry or anything who got to come out here and experience so for those that have never visited before. Could you walk us through. What kinds of things are in the bungalow there so in the bungalow at has a full kitchen and has a full living room and then it has a king size bedroom and as a big big king size bed it's beautiful folders Mir surrounding it and the the big bathroom? It has a bathtub with a w play on like this is all in the one space yes I haven't. There's been over there separate room but yeah okay. So it's like a whole little mini like an apartment. Yup Yeah and then in the second room. There's another bed and I think it's just is a queen but then after that it's just we're gonNA have like our sexy time number and a half are cuddling bed. Yes Oh you gotta jump around and then there's also like wait. There's more so much more the massage table. And then there's a new sex like chair in there now too so that just know now news so I was really excited about that when I saw that. Yeah I've got. I've got a sex in my room overly might dudes everybody full. Stop here if you've not used one of those years one are you talking talking about your heart is watch that video. There's there's that one that's like. That's the liberator heart pillow. But then I also have one. That's like this Kinda Curvy Yoga Koga Show full-size like oh my gosh. It's one can use them for you to you get your exercise and then get your wife. Well sex is a workout so it is doing all all in one shoe. I mean I feel you like with the holiday season so many people are. What do we want to do for the holidays like this? This we're doing this to Krizner's it's what you're going to get rights. I mean Wien the holidays and all. I almost feel like on the first day of Chris. Miss NYC cortisone get for for me. I don't know once you get a pair of nipple clamps under the Christmas tree we go back into Christmas. I'd eight cortisone gave to me too girl party with a on the third your day of Chris Smith. Mike got for me but plugs in three sizes three. I don't keep going on the fourth Christmas. My cortisone gave to me out day big party on the fairy tale Christmas. Mike Courtesan gave me an entire whole house or G YAN is. That's that's the cherry that was that was good as a St Louis C.. Like a bunny ranch choir coming in all drill. Show choir meantime meantime I hear you softly. CROONING is the day of an orgasm. Knew that was really good that you just came not off the top of your head. You need to do this now now. It's going to be a thing we're going to be nearby. Hear them ringing a little bell on my nipples right. uh-huh God what would what would it be not rudolph the red nose ring. What would it be Rudolph the blue balled reindeer. Yeah probably for some dude that actually is like into that. You know like the holiday season. Denial thing ooh ooh oh. Gosh I don't know I don't know I don't know something with the red lights interval coming to with the red lights. Red Lights glowing thing in the Red Light District Nevada in America and everywhere else strippers stripping on the pool roles touching into other naughty bits as well the leaching assholes wax. Oh my good abilities does come to the veneer engine for the holidays do like it all seriousness though like like army. We're doing something. We're doing the brothel. God Yes oh my God. It's back the Bronco Crawl. It's awfully this the uh-huh is this. A first Are is I wanted a while. Okay because I was here last year and I don't remember it. So Yeah it's the holiday brothel crawl might turn into a new tradition. Yes there should be like. Yeah definitely a thing. Because that's really really cool. Yeah so what. Dates time is how it's Friday December thirteenth. It's next Friday. It starts at Bunny Ranch at seven. And that's from seven to nine a and then at Kit Kat from nine to ten and then love ranch is ten to eleven and then Sagebrush is eleven to twelve and we need some out dates for that. Because I really WanNa go so seriously. I think it's GonNa be a ton of fun every single year. We do different awful crawls. We've done Halloween crawls this year we got our Christmas Carol. Red Light holiday crawl all holiday inclusive by all means. You want to call your Kwanza crawler. You're you're crawling rolling mill. Everybody everything everyone. I'm so excited I feel like the holidays truly are just time to spread good energy stuff. Make the world's very marian bright like you're talking about how when you come into the house servants like Arias here in the vibes are so good everything's great and it's just like you have that energy really like lightens up the room. It's it's not often that it's like somebody has that about them. It's a very a rare trade and it's a beautiful thing. Yeah I don't know I just. I used to be very very shy when I was little and then once I got into high school I actually joined an all girls show choir group. God is this like pre or post glee show choir. It was like during been banana. Yeah like I was in show choir before Louis know what it is like. I was that nerd that night. We had like the stereotypical horrible. I head to toe sequined dresses back before for it to make it work make modern Yup. No be up there just man I will never forget a new Argentina in in this. Like Awful Maroon secoind my God with a Beret and the break up falling off it was. Oh my Gosh No. It was so unnecessary. I mean protests songs. Really don't need to be in that attire. No nuts so oh my gosh. You've got some great stories to. Oh Yeah I just I was in it for three years and you know we had like two or three different outfits you know so we had to have her hair done a certain way where makeup just all really really you had to look a certain way so and just like I was. I was performing on stage a lot. So dancing ally And then my junior or my my sophomore year. Actually I actually became a cheerleader. And I kind of like broke out of my shell and so now. I'm just very very bubbly in China. Britain everybody's Day so all right my dude. You're thinking this I'm thinking this to. Does this mean that we can do like sexy cheerleader. rollerblading rollerblading is. Yes always wanted to do it yet. Maybe you said like you've always wanted to as you haven't done it no I haven't done it yet. No some someone email her please do. Yes yes God. That's that's really honestly though. Yeah and then and after cheerleading. You know I got into pageants so I won Miss Personality in my pageants not shocked at all. I'M NOT GONNA Prize. Damn it's amazing too because you have such a gift in an energy but you knew shared so willingly and openly gusts is like how. How do you think you've connected with them and change their lives just like you know giving them the experience that they are well-deserved up every user visit? Everybody deserves that love and that connection you know when I get a client like even if it's just like I get them for thirty minutes. I want to build something with them so that way they do come back from more because I want to be there there Third Person Yes did a person however they want to define it gets up to you as to what relationship looks like but I feel like especially with repeat guests especially for those of us that have been here for multiple years. Great it truly is a unique type of relationship you have where oftentimes like I know. I text with my guest. How are you doing? How was your thanksgiving? Oh my God hang in there. I know your family's terrible right right ever it and we'll see you soon. Yes yes and it. Just it's amazing and I feel like I get so much out of that as well. Just so heartwarming to know that you made them a lot more happier than they were yesterday. So I love that. So yeah the conversion happiness from someone else's happiness exactly it's amazing and people think it's just about. Yeah I mean it can be if he wanted to be but other than though I mean by all means we can absolutely make it about excellent try all sorts of exotic and different things seem time. There's like a worm emotionality and this potential for just growth when it comes to self love. GotTa have that chemistry with that person's Are there any stories that stand out to you of someone that kind of like came to love themselves after an experience because I know so many people all struggle with that like that internal lies true salt except of yes. Yes I actually just. Recently the month of September I had a repeat guest came amen and see me almost every week like at least twice a week out of the whole entire month of September and with that being said he actually was the only one for the whole month and I got kitty of the month and so he was my repeat he's still comes and sees me every so often and he just he just fell in love insult. That's what I love about it and it's it's so nice to because you see the literal physical change in people from when they walk through the door with the nerves in the anxiety the sweaty palm. Yes it was funny like when it very first came on dislike super super nervous. He'd been emailing me but he didn't tell me that he was coming in. I took him on tour but I could just tell he was going on and then like it went from him being so nervous. That data literally literally like coming in. And saying where's Aria. I want to go sit at the bar with her. have a glass of wine. I WANNA Sing Karaoke. Like gets to know all the cashiers names and everything so love it love it love it. I love the holiday season in general. There's so many different things to do. Do you have any like holiday traditions traditions. That you enjoy well with me and my family. We do this thing every year at Thanksgiving. We draw a person's name out of the family and it's called think nothing of it and we basically GonNa make fun of a family member so I've a bubble but and so one year my cousin got me and she put bub-bubba on it and set up. Got Me bubble bathroom pop bubble but on it instead and there was a time that my uncle like ghost at us for the longest time in so they came back for Christmas one year and got him a milk carton. Martin insists had a picture of him and said if Lhasa android stolen come in the funny. So Oh my God. That's funny India deal. There's always a a parade in my hometown. But I was there last year for Christmas. And I probably won't be there this year for either. But I'll be here so let's make own family traditions together in your own little bedroom parade exactly. Yes definitely mall Santa Central Burma like. Oh my God. I don't know I guess the holidays for me. It is normally most years. It's like the time of year around like cookies and buy cookies. I mean like half of these are going to get baked half the Delon's up in a- as ever go without making cookies I thought you know now I have to do the stupid gluten free ones It's awful. It's really obnoxious. I keep having like on again off again really severe sensitivity is two things one day glibness fine in the next day. It's like wow. I just broke out in hives body while you're doing that's terrible okay. I guess I'm just not going to have gluten but like there's there's lots of good options that you're going to find the right stuff. Yes and you figure like a lot of the gluten free stuff also Vegan so I mean technically. It's better for you cookie Okeydoke. That's true very not I would hesitate for even second split. Like a whole thing could Seriously it was like I'm I'm the type of person where I do. Not like even off a piece of cookie dough I just open. Ida's eat off yet. Oh man so like last year. I did these lemon curd raspberry cookies. Oh my God so good. It's a it's a pretty darn good combination it. It worked out pretty well. It was like trying to do like a little thumbprint sugar cookie style and I wanted him to Kinda like stain. Glass a tiny little bit so what I had done in his. I had I baked it with the With the GEL in there okay so this way it came out and you kinda like just translucent. We see through it ever so absolutely and that's super cool. I'd like wanted to make them look like little like stained glass Christmas ornaments but they kind of got a little bit too much shoe but they still looked really knee and most importantly they tasted really freaking. Good oh my gosh got. We're talking about food so much. I'm hungry so works. Some they usually do together gas. Yes yes but even more importantly that's something that somebody should come and do for the holidays. Come and let you cook them like a holiday like definite row down down like what are we kicking Christmas Ham Christmas salmon salmon fine. It's shaken up new some sushi rolls. It actually made Sushi before. That would probably be a good idea. How a lot of fun right like there's A? There's a holiday tradition that I used to do when I was younger. We we would always go out for Chinese food on Christmas Day. Oh Wow was so fun facts. I'm Irish half my family. Emily is like Irish Roman Catholic. Okay but then like I have my family. That's also Jewish like this and they're like it's great redhead. Use the thing and so on Christmas. I guess this is like a stereotypical Jewish tradition to like go have Chinese food because every single year a we would cow and they they lived in Brooklyn and they lived in like the Jewish part of Brahma. Gosh Gosh so I mean we're talking like full on macos and tallied and it was. It was an experience. I got such a kick out of that how what is on way to spend. Yes Christmas showing different traditions and you figure to let it comes out here. They can bring their traditions and share about us. Like stocking stuffing right. Yeah I love to see what other people do rather than. Let's lake because you're so used to what you do so you're just like that's I've never heard of that before. Doing Chinese food sued on Christmas Day. That's your it's like the only please that's open. We're less like if you think about it. Chinese food places there lake think I mean they. Don't 'cause it's like it's like waffle house in the salaries they have the waffle house rating system for tornadoes by the way like tornadoes and hurricanes were like if the waffle house completely closes because they can operate on almost nothing like it is unbelievable unbelievable but you figure there's just so many different things to do to see an winter in Tahoe really is just has such a magical most definitely I mean like white Christmas guaranteed and even if you don't ski. Have you ever done snowmobiling no I I would love to do. That would be like the holiday gift to give you. It'd be like a fun. snowmobiling date so much like that is probably one of my favorite things because because two people are on the same one so you figure like he's in the front holding on nearly all build up their arms leaning right in your neck neck in you know what you're GonNa do as soon as you're not yet it's really fun and exhilarating and they stop at the top of the mountain for hot cocoa. Oh my gosh fall. It's beautiful you have to check it out. Let's do it yes. So how do people reach you. How do people find you follow? You spend spend time with you. You can obviously email at Mia. Are you Quinn. KICK AT WRENCH DOT COM. You can call the ranch. I also have a twitter Aria underscored Quinn and the number four. Yes yes yes as to myself you can always email me alice little at bunched up com. Good on my website. The ALLISON DOT com. Check me out on money. Ranjit website and of course you can always get to know any and all of the ladies on our message board. Yes yes yes most definitely yes and you can find that bunny. WRENCH DOT COM backslash forum. Yes it's great because you figure a lot of the ladies will share pictures sure so or or res Specials it's it's like a community space feel definitely it's like our own little digital version seven of the ranches so it's like a fun comfortable place to get to know and hang out with your waiting to come and have an amazing experience out here exactly. Oh yes most definitely yes. So it's like Oh my gosh. There's just there's so many different things I wanna do for the holiday. I want Chris Ness. Is You surrogate. Everyone thank you all so much for joining us for another episode of Bunny Ranch. podcast these share to like subscribe and give. That's a great little reading on whatever listening platform you're on and we will see you next week. It's beginning to look a lot like ooh on. How's Dell's dreaming of Sexy Charisma with girls below offs? Every don't for your strap on but uh-huh double-sided dildos ever turn on's maybe

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Lodge & Tourism Growth Strategies  Super Star Series  | Tour Operator Marketing | Lodge Marketing & Tourism Operations | Travel Business Success Podcast #67

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Lodge & Tourism Growth Strategies Super Star Series | Tour Operator Marketing | Lodge Marketing & Tourism Operations | Travel Business Success Podcast #67

"Travel business success radio podcast episode number sixty seven. Are you a tour operator travel business has grown or wants to grow a lot today? Special guests from Alaska can tell you about how he started as a small fishing guide company with one boat with no experience in business or marketing struggled in the early days learned to turn his website into a marketing weapon that really converted prospects into bookings and has since grown over the last ten or fifteen years to a company doing well into seven figures on two lodges in his one of the top fishing guide and lodges in Alaska in spite of having about three hundred competitors. So join me today with my special guest, we're going to look at a marketing and branding specifically about how to get your website to sell on how he uses that. And we're gonna talk about growth, and scaling strategies and the critical topics that can be successor failure around locating hiring staff training and retention. Enjoy. Welcome to travel business success podcasts. Teaching you how to start and grow and succeed with your travel business marketing and career brought to you by adventure biz success dot com and your host, Tim Warren. If you're looking for free tips, tools and resources by industry experts to improve your bottom line you've come to the right place. Join him now with more interviews trends. Best practices and seasoned advice to help us succeed. Hey, good day. Folks. It's tourism, Tim, Warren hair with another exciting episode of tourism marketing TV and for you listening on the podcast travel business success. I am honored and fortunate to have a returning guest Kukui anthem Alaska today Jimmy with Jimmy Jack fishing day. Jimmy. Hey, how're you doing Tim outstanding while you, and I were talking a couple of weeks ago and kind of catching up I hadn't talked with you in quite a quite a few years, and I was just so pleased to hear about your your progress and your growth and your success as a tour operator, and it was so exciting. And some of the things that you were sharing. I thought would be relit round marketing in how to handle a management and staff and hiring and retention. And when you when you have got a much bigger team was so exciting. I thought we would we should we should share that. Because I know it would be helpful for others. So appreciate you being here today. Sure. Yeah. I'm excited. Fantastic. So why don't you give folks listening or watching today just a brief background of when you started and a little bit about what you guys do. Okay. And so I started a fishing guide business in nineteen ninety five with just a boat mainly because I wanted to be on the water kind of passion a mind to be on the water, and we now so we were fishing guide service for quite a while. And now, we run two fishing lodges in Alaska, and I. Basically, we sell I see it as two products, we sell fishing, lodge packages, and we still sell our day fishing charters. The packages branch off in two different products, just because the lodges are tiered. So we have a kind of are all inclusive. Find dining a fishing lodge in the mail. So have an original lodge, which is well, our I the one I I was talking about is our Alaska SeaScape lodge all inclusive and find dining same packages with the same charters. And then we have our my my fishing lodge original fishing lodge, which we call Jimmy Jackson, Alaska lodge, and that is a little more affordable just because we don't do dinners. And so we've we've always done just a breakfast and lunch, and we are on the road system. So makes it pretty easy to do that. So that's kind of what we do those products. Great. Well, I wanted to give people some further expand on the significance of this for thirteen years ago. You start with one boat yourself is was was Tupelo Twenty-three years ago. Twenty is okay. Right. Maybe five clearly. Clearly. And but one boat one one guy yourself and a passion to share what what you love. And I know that this is some goes way back with you you and your dad and coming up to Alaska and now and no lodge. Now, you have to lodges, I believe you said that you looked like you were going to have twenty three staff this year approximately how many boats we have this year will have ten. It's a dozen boats books. Yeah. We didn't. I didn't ask you about this beforehand, and you can share. However, you want to share on this. But let's say your first year and business approximately how much revenue to Brecon that. I I remember because I was my dad was helping me with that. And you know, it was the question of do. I get a summer job or do I do this? And I just wanted my own boat, basically. So I remember at the end of the summer we had so I had made thirteen thousand dollars, and we had spent fourteen thousand dollars in my dad said, well, that's great because you only lost a thousand. I said that's not great. They said this is business. And I said, well, I, you know, I don't I don't really like that. You know, I work my butt off, you know. And so that went on for four years though. I mean, it just like that. And you know, as you you grow and learn that's kind of kind of the norm. I guess. Yeah. Well, it's it's well, it's a really good perspective. And a lot of people. I think that they just make this assumption that, wow, I'm really an expert at fishing or I know kayaking in this area better than anybody, a master mountain biker and everybody is gonna just fall in love with my place. Everybody's just gonna wanna come here because I'm so wonderful in. Yes. And no one knows about you. Others that there's that. That's what Mark you are probably good at it and great at it. But no one knows about you. Yes. That's the way the marketing and sales comes in. They're going to talk about today, folks. And you don't have to give exact numbers, but just give us an idea of what sort of revenues. We're expecting this year. I believe you said you were well into the seven figures. Yeah. Yeah. We're well in seventeen years now. And you know, it's something that you know, I think my my goal was went in growing with the second largest could have help in the office. You know, it was it was like, okay. If I get bigger I can have more help, and it actually did turn out that way. But yeah, we're a lot bigger in a lot more. Now have new issues, right? Yes, we'll talk about those two but profitable. That's and that's they really good thing. And I think what you just shared his the key thing is that as one scales. The issues that you have is a startup are can be radically different than when you're a growing scaling company. And this is the solutions. You used initially actually might contribute to the problem. On. Hats would definitely contribute to the pro. So let me let me guess you're out in the keanae river, one of the premier of salmon fishing, a places in the world. Let me guess you had no competition when you started right, right? Yes. Only about I don't know three hundred and fifty others. Yeah. Gosh. Yeah. It was fifty and how many how many our there are now if you've guides and outfitters lodges, and so we kind of I have numbers more on just the guides which gives you kind of an idea on the keanae river. And of course, we we are all over the Kenneth insulin now, but. Since the recession. Oh, wait. There's river dropped down. And so we were up to four hundred thirty in oh seven as far as guide permits on the keen ever. Now. We're down to about two eighty which is been a pretty stable number. It's been it's been staying right around there. And that gives you an idea of the industry it has had has gunned down a little bit. And and, but that's just you know, that's good. It's normal who that that's interesting. I think a lot of people would kind of freak out if they think about having that many competitors better. That's just on general rivers. Oh, if he were Loic Alaskan general, which is just a outdoor capital hub of the world. How many hundreds or thousands might we'd be talking about? Yeah. I, you know, I don't even know. I don't want to know. I've never really I kind of. I know it's a lot. It's just it is competitive. And when you when you think about the fact that we're comp-. Keating in on a few platforms. You know on the internet. That's even makes it even more daunting. Well, and and what in the one of the things that sets you apart. And I think kind of how we Ridgely mad was a shift in your business development and marketing because you you in order to deliver the incredible service and shirk share the beauty that I know the river, and the setting is you have to be able to get the word out, then let's just get it out. But convince people that you're a knowledgeable expert guide you rent great trips safeties atop concern, and they're and they're gonna they're gonna bring back a lifetime of memories, and maybe some real big fish too. Yeah. Yeah. We, you know, you have to you have to have a niche or, you know, something that's just I guess more personalized icy it as it's just what's what's my business. It's my business. So it is competing. But really, no one's no one's me. And no one's might team. And no one's our culture. So it really is different. Who that's what I kind of had to get, you know. I know you help. Me a lot with differentiating. And also not not just not that we weren't different. We were already different. But it was we were marketing that were Delon anybody. So what would that's that's just touch on that first second. So we're kind of kind of reflecting on the past and kind of days and and learning opportunities. What do you think about marketing of of your product in? And what what is what did you think about marketing, then or what what is, you know, about marketing then or thought you know, that that you've raised radically different now. Well. I think I knew it was so different now. Well, I guess then it would have been that in in the very beginning. I didn't really know anything. I didn't even know, you know, I remember my mom she made, brochures and put them at the local one of the local hotels, and she's like we gotta get we gotta get to advertising out there. And I was like well people want to you know, she said I said that and I remember saying that if people wanna fish with me, you know, they'll call and she thought, okay. Well, she had been in real estate. So she knew and I remember folding brochures for her as a kid, you know, and in mass just folding, brochures. I don't remember when. But yeah, it was something that she knew. And when also nice I start my first, you know, subcontracting Alana started getting my first my clients, and they were calling from this brochure at this hotel. Well that worked and it was just these little she she had made them out of cards are like yellow and black. You know? And and so that was the thing that I didn't know the being I just did not understand that you had to somehow get your name out there who. It. It's it's a it's a common problem. Did you ever see the movie with Kevin Costner called field of dreams? Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And I I kind of the analogy is the line and in his movie was if if I build it if I build this. Come field. They'll come these. Great. And I had that I think that works. There's a lot of that out in tours world. If I if I just start my business, of course, clients gonna call. Yeah. And if I would have done it over, obviously, I would have said, okay. I am going to you know, I'm spending money on fuel and on my boat payment, and on my gear, and you know, those things those little things I would have said, well, what am I spending on advertising? I mean, no one asked me that question. And you know, my mom should've said you have to spend something on advertising, but she was trying to do it for free, basically. And I just didn't you know, I didn't know anything about business. It's a it's a farming project folks that well, so this is a great. It's a great segue into kind of a marketing, and branding, which is one of the things which was really neat when we were talking a couple of weeks ago at ask you, well, what does that you most enjoy doing now? That's you've got this much bigger company. And just yeah, you went from knowing nothing, and even that you even had to market advertise to now, it's something that you you really understand better you enjoy and you reaping the fruits of of your knowledge, and and your your labor, which is fantastic. So for folks who are listening to this podcast. I'm going to encourage you to go over to a trouble business success dot com that we're gonna we're gonna try to take a share my screen in the video right now. And we're gonna take a look at Jimmy's website, and we're going to be kind of going through it. Can you see that what the website now? Jimmy. Yeah. Great. So what what we thought we'd do folks on in the world of marketing, and branding is. Just cut as what would you say that we're gonna we're gonna look at his website. But before we jump into that. Would you look at the your top three methods methods that are increasing your quality leads enter generating bookies. What are they for you? So. Well, you you mean as far as marketing goes. Yeah. You know, I mean of all the different things you can do I'm assuming it's still not a handle. There's no longer hand folded for I I'm gonna. No, no. I mean, it's definitely. Yeah. It's you know, the return on the investment is definitely digital. I think you know. Of course, Facebook is a big player now will and in. The search engines are are big players. I think those are the main ones, but having the website. So that's your main contact 'cause even if they talked to me at the safari club show, they're gonna still go back and look at the website. And so the website has to communicate exactly who we are. And and and most importantly, I think is our credibility. I think that's what you know. That's something that you can't you can build and it keeps building. And that's what I like about credibility. Indeed, the so, well, we'll we'll jump off on that point one of. I think you and I first met when you bought lie towards the marketing. Success course, gosh, I don't know. Yeah. Eight years ago ten years to really really know. But. But are you at served with me that that learning about credibility, or or it's now come more commonly called social proof, and that people know people when they go to your website, which is your your store for into the world folks is they want they want to know that that you've been around for awhile in that that that they can trust you to have that they're making a good investment in in their vacation, whether you're doing fishing or you've got a equal lodge in in in Bolivia. It doesn't really matter or your travel agent or even a destination. Everybody has choices. So let's let's take let's talk about credibility at and let's and maybe what I thought it'd be fun. Jim is to is to look at some of the credibility or social proof elements on your on your website and look at how you've represented them. And let's first talk about the sending that'll -bility statement, what you have on your website in very very, very concise way, which I like and once you point that out too. Us. So my my basically my credibility that I have put on there. I had to choose because there's a lot of credibility statements that we have that we we can put in other advertising, but on the website. We don't want to have it too busy. So I chose of course advisors a big player in our industry for reviews, and we're on our fourth that doesn't show it on this one, but we have four certificate of excellences fourteen through seventeen. And then if we get the one this year, which we've most likely will we'll be in the hall of fame, and that will be a hall of fame banner, which will even increase it. And that's huge because that's our that's our show media. I guess that's our, you know, some some business it's yelp. If you're in restaurants in some it's Google plus, but that's our review score. And then twenty three years, we kind of just keep changing that one because we've been been in business that long, and I think it's important that people know that you know, that we aren't a fly by night and that we've been doing this. And so we have. A lot of credibility that way. And we, you know, I think the main thing like you said is I wanted to show that they can trust us. So I guess I'm saying that to, you know, people also need to know that you know, if you're doing business, honestly in your you are credible. Then you know, that's where it starts. But if you're not then, you know, putting all the credibility points out there. You could isn't gonna matter. You know, did it, and I just want to point out a couple follow on a couple of things that you said these I couldn't agree more with what you said about the turf advisory. It is it is one of the most influential elements or and it could be yelp to or or some other main social media things. But when it comes to people are choosing between a couple of different outfitters or guides or a tells they're looking at Tripadvisor reviews, and so I call these credibility icons, and you've done a great job and position them folks knows this is the whole page you this is the very first green shot. You would see whether you're on era on a desktop or a phone. You're going to see these kind of Billy icon's right away super important. Folks. And so good job at placing them in a very conspicuous location. I believe you've got you've got a few more of credibility type elements here. We'll we'll we'll look at damage is an icon, videos and testimonials Missy here. Separately described scrolling down to the bottom. You'll see. Oh, yes. Testimonials rent across and credibility. We have got a lot more on the bottom. Yeah. Yeah. This this is a really good thing. I like how you've given it a dominant section in the page. And and that the what I call this is what I would call a drop quote phones in this at this is a really smart way to do close because people aren't going to read lost people are not going to read a four paragraph testimonial or common, but they will read one sentence and great you got Larry Songkhla hair. This is liberty. Actually, I asked him for that. If I could use that enough in that spot and on my on. On my booth at my at the safari show. And he said yet SO I thought that was great. Nice nice. And then down here, folks. You'll notice these these are more. Credibility icons and reflecting major media zone productions Larry's Lanka's production company yelp. You know in your you Willie boat. I guess you're a sponsored. Yeah. Okay. And so these are all things that collectively add to that social proof folk that is so important. And again, if you're listening to this on the podcast, I really heard you to go over to a travel business success, and I will have the videos there too. So that you can follow along and see exactly what we're talking about. All of these elements are on the first page. They're very clear to see. And they really they really pop out. So I think you've done a really good job. Because I remember what your site used to look like and what I worked together. Oh, yeah. It was funny because I remember that I had some pixellated version of of a logo. And I remember changing that with I I change it to this round logo us quite a bit now. And when I changed it, and I just put excellent since nineteen ninety five on the top of the page and all of a sudden our bookings literally doubled and didn't do anything except that. And that was just what I did quickly after talking to you. You know, this is a long time ago. And I thought oh boy, you know. And then you feel like man, I have been really making of you know, a bad mistake for a long time. It's been hurting our business, you know. Pulsed? It's not your fault, your you're act, your expert fishing guide, you, you know, your backyard. Well, and if I was coming up to keanae when and I don't know anything about salmon fishing too keanae. I I would of course, want to hire an expert or get the local expert advice, really, no different. And this this comes from, you know, this this ecology of selling in tourist tours and tourism comes from many, many many years and looking at countless a websites and seeing really what works, but it's it's true. Folks. It can be that powerful. That's simple to start. When you start adding credibility elements to your website and all your marketing like you said in your web, the your trade show booth. It's on everything. Then that's a really good point. It's it's on everything. I wanted to look at a couple more cool things I think that on your site. When when when you first come to your your this website, the very you have this on auto play, which I think is a nice feature because you're very personable person. You come across really friendly and this really short video, folks. It's it's dead center on his website. It's just down about the second the middle middle of the of the top kind of. Yes. Right under the top. And I think you did a really nice job on your show. Yeah. We were trying to just make it to where they could hear from me personally. But also understand that there's two lodges. And for me to talk about the difference. It just made it real simple. And so people get the idea right away to who who who the it co it many. And you talk about the two the two lodges on your video. So they're they are there's pictures of right there. So that that is that is perfect. Let's take a couple more looks are gonna look at when those who will quick a so we've got we talked about the videos. We talked about the testimonials I think the other thing that I like on on your website here in in. This is this is a classic shots of of what I call happy guests on friendly in the sun in the sunlight, these classic grand grins shots with big fish. But and they are walkers. But the this clearly, and I know you're in two of them. And is this your wife? Nope. This is she's actually the the new reporter that does the fishing on channel two and Alaska, she does the fishing report and Sheikh fishes with us two or three times a season. And so everybody knows her locally her. She's a good smile and everybody knows who she is. So through on their nice, and that folks is another example of leveraging credibility of someone else like Larry Czanka or this woman. If you have media people in any way, shape or form that had been an any of your trips. Do what Jimmy did get their permission to to get a quote and get a coat of better yet even video and using liberally in all your marketing because nothing nothing is going to help build that social proof faster than that. So let's you know, as usual on this market. He's a big topic. We could probably talk about this the whole show. But I I do wanna talk about moved to the second part of this show, folks. And it's an and the, and if you have questions on marketing or social proof, I encourage you to go to trouble business success dot com down the bottom. There's a spot for comments, please finish your comments questions. You know, I'm we're here to help and love to to hear the that. And at the end the show, we're also gonna I'm gonna ask you Jimmy to share out people get a hold of us. So they can go, and so they can go to your site, by the way, it is. I mean, Jack fishing. That's j I m e Jack fishing dot com. I would encourage go check. To me cited as well done, and it's clean as professional, and it's mobile responsive, which is a important element that so the the site works well on a tablet or a smartphone. So let's let's look at what happens when you do marketing. Well, and you have these revolutions and Malaysians about your marketing and people start I'm going to stop sharing my screen. And so we can just be looking at each other here the. Your business can grow and you've been growing over the last. I certainly you've had probably since we met which let's say was ten years ago on average at what rate you think you've been going on average. You know, I think just maybe ten percent a year, you know, just been manageable. And I think there was a jumps there between two thousand nine and two thousand ten and that was probably when we talked because I did. Yeah. We did some major changes. I think that was the marketing changes we made. Plus, we wrote a business plan which helped which I had I didn't have you know. So I hadn't been any, you know, market research on my competition. I didn't know the pricing structure, I should be. So I really spend some time with another coach and did just basic business plan. And and so, you know, we kind of in two thousand ten I think we went well, I think we I think we doubled somewhere right in there. You know, without adding any infrastructure, you know, this this last year we doubled. Obviously, we we added a lodge, which doubled our our capacity. So we're going to double our sales. But you know, we also have to know how to double the sales, and we do know that how to do that. The. But so, yeah, we've kinda doubled in two thousand ten and now we're doubled again in two thousand seventeen that is huge with a with growth comes on wonderful things. And some challenge us leading. Let's let's let's talk about grab some of the growth strategies, specifically more about how do you deal with them real an, and I think they really important thing that all of us around the world that are growing have to deal with staff because we can't do it all yourself, and it's not even smart to do it all yourself and its impact. It's probably the single greatest. Challenge that I've seen over the years when I look at businesses that I've worked with that have grown a lot is the owner transitioning from owner operator working in the business as opposed to be working on the business and actually getting competent people in place, and it's it's not easy. I'll be honest with you as been a walk in the park for you. Jimmy. No, no, you always, you know, I can just. I just you just see like, I'm always working more and then trying to figure out how to control my time. So yes, it's been it's been it's always stretching him always grow. We're always growing in some always I'd have to change have to change something. You know, every something major seems like I have to make shifts every month in it. The hardest part is the shift in my in my mind, you know, how my thinking about this. You know, who am I going to be in the business? You know, what's my role? Now. That's what we're that's what my biggest challenges this year is my role. I knew as soon as I purchased the SeaScape building, and we were going to double our capacity. I knew that my role is going to change. I just didn't know where it was going to land me. And fortunately, I I think it's important that I I do read a lottery lot of business books, and you just get little nuggets. You know, you're reading somebody's Bhushan. And you know, I was reading a book, and it told me, hey, kind of this size of a business. Now, you're probably going to work on this part of the business and let. You know, leave the rest for some employees th right there. I knew like oh, man. I got I gotta work on systems. I need to get you know, we had a handbook, and it was little and it was really little and the one that gave the fishing guides as even smaller. And so we have just been focusing on getting the systems written down, you know. And and then employees, you know last year when I saw that I had twenty three. And and I thought, you know, you're, you know, I just remembered the revelation was I'm not really in charge of this thing. You know? I mean, I'm kind of like, you know, I don't, but I don't want it to, you know, wanna wag the dog by the tail either, you know. So I, but yeah, employee's if I wanna work on the business, that's what I decided longtime ago before and I talked to you. And it's just how to do that is is a trick. And now that's where we are really seeing how to do that. Because now. I've got key employees. Right. I've got leaders that you know, they are they know the culture that I want, and they they wanna be a part of that culture in. They've always been been with me for a while. And so they're able to transmit that culture that we have at Jimmy Jack fishing to the new employees because a new guy, you know, he comes on doesn't know anything. So we really need to baptism in the in the culture who because that's what the guests come for the come for the culture of Jimmy, Jack fishing, and so that's kind of the challenge and is not really way to to to articulate that. But that's what we're trying to do. So we're trying to get down on paper like in. What's our core values? What's are? You know, it's way more than a mission statement. Now, it's no this is how we behave. This is how we handle problems is how we handle conflict in all these things that you know. And I guess the thing is is I I've kinda taken like I liked leading people. But I. Oh, I love people. And so that's good. Because I I don't mind having employees might have more employees. I think it's just that. I wanna I just want. I want the team. I think to the team that are have now and the or the Kim that had last year and the new employees we have this year. I want them to really enjoy each other. That's you know, what I mean. It's like, and I think it's because I see in talk into the the more season employees. They're really concerned about who. I'm gonna bring on Mike my guides like who you can have guiding mixed me, you know. So I don't take it lightly that I'm going to put someone next to them as a colleague. And and it's it's it's yeah. It's always going to be a challenge though. I think it's a challenge in is not going to end. I think it's just part of it. And I, but I I'm not afraid of that. I'm not afraid of having employees. And I don't see him as a headache. You know, because really I, you know, in for me, you know, the life life is about my relationships with my friends, and my place need to be kind of my friends, you know, in a way they need to be somebody. I like hanging out with. Indeed. Well, I'm thrilled. And I'm not at all surprised that that you reading a lot. And I think what Demidov shared folks is golden at especially at any stage of business. But especially if you're as you're growing because there's so many a successful entrepreneurs who have walked the path before you, and it doesn't even have to all industry, and there there's really good stuff up that talk about wise ways of of scaling your businesses. And that allows you to start focusing on what you're really good at it. What you love and then find people find people who love at our at our wonderful at the things that maybe you're not so good at and. Yeah. And getting them engaged in in as you said that your culture, and the culture is key. And one of the thing that I think you shared on that I think is often overlooked in our industry, but it is the essence of what you just said is that I've always thought about customer services is related to. Heart thing so many of us in the hospitality industry air focused on external customer service, HUD, we treat our customers equally important if not more important is how we treat each other. And I call that internal customer service in a not at all surprised that and this is really a good sign when you have your staff and people going there, they're enrolled and engaged in helping make sure that you have the great team where the synergy that we're all on the same page as you are all working together. And you're having fun with each other doesn't get any better that then you know, that your culture and your team is evolving because they're they're equally nested to make sure that you have the team they want to work with that was probably reflection of that is also no doubt a reflection of who you want to work with. Yeah. Yeah. And it just makes every day better. When you get up in the morning, and he go, you know, what I'm so excited. I get up in the morning. I get up at any. Time because I'm excited about the day. I'm excited about Alaska love being here. And I'm excited about the business. But I'm excited to go out. I've got this camp kid become camp kid, but. His name's Nate. And he launches her boats, and he helps was a fish cleaning. He helps with the processing he he helps. He does the bow cleaning. And he is awesome. He's twenty one. And he's but he is always smiling. He's always joyful. I said, you know, you have kind of like an anointing of joy like you just you come out and the guides get happy, and he launches the boats. And so what? And so every day I get up. I'm just looking forward to see Nate, you know. And so I want to be looking forward to seeing me. And so that's the kind of thing. It's a we want to have this. You know, we want to have a great day every day, you know? And so I think that a lot of it too. Is that people what I've found. I'm an athlete I guess by trade 'cause I was pulled off there. You know till I was. I don't thirty last week. He well, I, you know, I just grew up in sports teams. And I and I grew up learning from great coaches in, and I was an athlete at Fresno state. And and you know at that low, and I had a great coach name's Bob Fraley. And he one of the things that I think is people you start to realize these guys have to create a team and they want to create a winning team. You know what I mean? I mean it and the thing is what I found is that employee's liked to be on winning teams doesn't anybody wanna be on the winning team? You know, you hate it. When you're in the losing team, and you'll stick it out for a while, you know, but if you're a real winner, you want wanna be traded or you want you gotta get out of there. And so I was I was always on these winning teams. And I I learned a lot from that. And I just that's how that's where I pull from you know, but I believe that you know, the players want to be on a winning team. And I it's my job as the coach to create a winning team. And if we all feel like we're win. Inning. Will why wouldn't you want to get it? But every day and win, you know. And so, and and I see it in other businesses, and you can really see it in the way, they brand there, you know, or or the way they way they have their dress code, you know, and so we've we've we've got address code. You know, we've got our hoodies and the guides wear the hoodies and you've got to have my hat on. And you know, it's just hey, we're a team, you know. And and but you wanna you wanna wear the winning jersey. Anyway, you know, you and if you're not on the yeah. Yeah. That's kind of way. I look at it. Yeah. I love that analogy of and really I think for a leadership standpoint to be the coach of a winning team. I really liked that a lot in. I, unfortunately, I see too many people entrepreneurs who have scaled were maybe maybe communiqu. They don't see themselves as the coach of a winning team. But the but put themselves too often the in the quote, unquote, boss frame of mind and. You it's important to have a parameters in roles in. But I think that that the being part of a winning team. I I really liked that. Because it does make all the difference in the world. It's I we're gonna fund business. We're we're in a quality of life business, but it's hard to enhance quality of life. When you're not having a good time yourself, right? Yeah. And I think that's that's one of the things that we bring as tourism business. We bring we bring excitement we bring adventure. We bring like say, we're we're making people smile and people, you know. Just like laugh and smile can make people it heals people. You know what? I mean. I think that people there's people that in their two point in their life. And why do we take vacations because we we need to -cation? You know, we need we need a break from from the grind, and we need to to to laugh and smile, and and a lot of times with your friends and relatives or. The people come up, and and you know, it's just great to Bill the be a part of that. And I think I started a long time for purpose because I was always looking for the real purpose? You know us, you know, it's a deeper purpose in my business. You know, because we how are we helping humanity? You know what I mean? But really I mean. You know, vacationing or or I guess a break arrest day arrests period at this part of being human. And that's what we we specialize in helping people rest correctly. You know, have a great time while the resting, you know, and so I I kind of found my purpose haven't really written it down. But it's kind of what keeps me going. Well, it's. I think it's it's really super important folks to return remember in and I would encourage you all to think about why do you do what you do? And I'm have that conversation with your staff because it will help me get to the core of what we're doing. Why we do it in in in helping to attract some people I'd like to laser in on a few key kind of mechanics of having to do with with staff and something that I see happen a lot especially with this season of tourism businesses. But I'm worse wherever you typically been finding your staff what have been some repair in. About that. You don't I I would say I've been not very good at that. So like, this is the first year we've had a focus to put a lot of time in hiring. But typically, I just throw an ad on Craigslist. And I would you know, if you emails, but but we've we've used Craigslist still just because it is a free space, and we use indeed dot com who we tried that one. I liked that that worked well to. We did find a couple employs on off there. And that just I would try another any of the other ones. I just tried. Indeed. And then the other thing we do is, you know, my staff kinda, you know, they indicate people with they meet good. But like I had one guy that I heard was you know, one of my other guys they'd run into him. Anthony, hey, you know, once you talk to this guy. So I put him in our process. But I do more of that. I think I'm gonna do, you know, some some some money prizes. Even like, you know, pay my staff if the person comes on staff because grey day, really neat. It's their team. They need to be the one to create their team. It's like if I'm on a, you know, if I'm on a soccer team or a football team in find a player, and you know, and I feel like he's a good fit for our team. I'm probably more right than my coach. I'm pro or I have just as much power as my coach and making that decision, although the coach will make that decision. But I shouldn't let this guy walk way. Right. And so that's kind of what we're going to do in the future is give some some money prizes. I guess to get to get good staff because these guys know our culture, they know the personal fit. I'm so glad that you brought that up. I was going to Justin. If you didn't. I it's I don't care what size business you're in. Folks. The getting your staff engaging in attracting the people that they wanna work with it just reinforces what would Jimmy keeps coming back to. And that's that culture this fun place to work so many enjoy being around with and the and that the that they have the shared values and ethics in engagement and commitment. To do. They have the passion for the thing that it is your workout whether you're fishing in the kid on your regarding people on the great wall. It's it's it's really the same. So let's let's couple of quick things on operations and staff is seasonal business. You guys weren't six seven days a week. I imagine straight via months on what are you guys doing to avoid burnout on on? So yeah, I what I what I've done is. I I am a real big rest. You know, I am all for resting. And so I believe we need to rest one day a week. And so what I've done because it doesn't always happen as I say your contract says your work days a week, but just for Meteo, I want you to know I believe in a rest day, and that just all that does is help us to take our guests. And usually we we have a lot of people want to go to church on Sunday will sometimes you gotta take care of that guess before he checks out. He didn't have a good trip, and you can do it. And then the guy the guy will do it. And I'm like, okay. So you're gonna work thirteen days in a row now. But I'm gonna give you two days at the end. And it's not in the contract. I don't ask to you. But I will make a way to do it. But so you get that respite. It's just not going to happen. And it just because the, you know, our mission is I that's our guests. Our mission is our guest there. First our team is second and the individuals third, and that's the way we operate. And so they know that and or my team my team that's been with me knows that and. It just makes it to where they know that I want them to get rest, they know notes important. So I I don't force them to rest. So, you know, you get some people that don't know how to rest in his they're not resting. I actually call him in. And I talked to him about rest right in the beginning. And I say, I'm not impressed. I did last year. I talked to someone said I am not impressed with you working twenty hours a day that that's only gonna make us fail is gonna make you fail. It's going to get you hurt. It's gonna make us fail. And so, you know, you don't do that as an athlete. You don't you know? I mean, it has an athlete we never I never even did an all night or studying. I just wouldn't do it. It wasn't my priority. And I I still had great grades. But it wasn't my priority. I would take a b and sleep because I had to train tomorrow. Am I team dependent on the and that's the way I look at it. It's like, hey, let's make sure we realized that in order to be an athlete tomorrow in order to train tomorrow. You know, if you're gonna go train through four hours tomorrow, straight and list and run and all this stuff. You gotta you gotta sleep so free twenty hours days in a row is just gonna make you, you know, you could get you sick. It could it could get you really sick. And then that's gonna help us at all. So so, yeah, I I am I guess in a way it's not black and white that you're going to get that rest. But it is in my values. No that. I am not at all surprised that that you're keeping tabs of your staff, and how are they managing themselves. Because it's true that when you get into the rhythm everything. And it's it was just go go go some people don't have that self awareness. And I do think that that's one of the most important jobs of a leader in general, especially if a bigger company is helping manage and support and build the success of your team. And if and if you help support them and be their advocate. You win our guest win and the and the team wins. And and. And this is the kind of thing when staff sees that. Wow. You really you really are committed to my well being and they wanna make sure that I have the best time in and do the and do the work and make the most money, but also at the end of the day. Don't burn out people. Really appreciate that. So I would imagine that's been helpful for retention what sort of. Return retention rate. Do you have on your on your your staff? You know, I think we would probably always around three-quarters. It seems like you know, when just hard in a seasonal business because people just life happens, and they find other things to do. But I think that they, you know, I mean, I've always said we have got the best rested guides on the keanae river, you know, and that's why we're smiling. And I I really, well, you know, you're we're in tourism. So it's like we're selling ice cream. You know, we got to somebody walks up to the counter. I mean, we gotta be smiling. I smiled. Yeah. And so being rested is a big part of that. But are yeah. We we keep I I would say we we probably even start keeping more because of the hiring process is a little more in tuned to our culture. But we are definitely keeping some good people. I've got one of my guides have had for twelve years one of my saltwater captains five now. And you know, it's just been in an Kevin him off sees five. And so, you know, we've got you know, dad's. We must be forever, but he can't leave. So he's. And yeah, you're right. I mean retention because we what what happens is in a very very careful, for example, not to. Even though we actually could use more river guides, for example this year, I'm not going to bring in more new guides than I have season guys because the culture isn't going to be stable. I gotta keep that culture. These guys get into the culture night can bring someone else on because who who's have say have like four they're staying any two more, maybe three more. But I can't take four more. I got four that are here in four. I can't that's going to mess with the culture. We'll do it. And I learned that the hard way I one year I heard like five guys on a fire in one I fired four, and then just it was the worst year we've ever had. And I realized that the problem was what I did, you know? So you can't you gotta keep your culture people. Yeah. And then the staff members just get upset at you that what did you highly city? It's. Jay. What you do? Yeah. Well, you know, and and there are, you know, in a team like I remember you don't plan at attract, Fresno state. You know, we had we have some high caliber athletes, and then we had some high caliber people on the team that did not go on the travel squad with us, but they were morale, and you wanted those people there and a lot of is because they were walk on because they had something that that you know, other team players didn't have nothing was handed to them. And but they were so much part of the culture in the work ethic. You know, and you got to you know, those guys are real important. So you gotta realize you may have people that don't perform as well. But like they are so good for the team morale. Very nice. Well, listen, I the the the fun about doing these especially with someone as seasoned as yourself as we could just talk all day. On just as any of these topics. But. How it people we need to wrap up here. I would like people to once again to be relented of how they can get a hold of you. And and if they wanted to go fishing how they go round. So the the easiest ways is just go to the website and Jimmy Jack fishing dot com and the web farms on every page it pops out on some pages, and you can just fill that out and Kevin he's an office. Most of the time. We also have lark now who's in the office. They'll call you back tomorrow, and you will get a call back in. And you can also just call us at our number which is nine zero seven two six two five six one. But we are in the office all the time, and we are very interested in hearing from people, and we call them back, and we we Email them back. We were there. You know, we're here. That's what we do. And that the responsiveness is certainly a key to. Strangers into friends and friends in customers. And if you folks I haven't been to Alaska several times, and if you've never it is a beautiful state and catching a giant fish is a once in a lifetime experience that is for sure buddy din fish, the is is just epic. It had Alaska's a it's just a it's the last frontier really is. And it's just it's beautiful everywhere. Everywhere you go. I mean, it's just gorgeous system where were worldwide show. We don't want up set our global audience. I'm going to say in the US, right? But yeah, pretty neat. Frontier. Our world I'll tell ya. That is here. I was thinking about lung goalie, and and they've got these giant salmon in the river there in this doc about way, I'll know where that is really out there. Yeah. Jimmy, sir. Thank you. As always a great pleasure. I look forward to coming revisiting again in three or four years and seeing what the how the team's doing? And how you guys have scaled up to to have. Have the most fun help the most people and make the most money. Yeah. Yeah. And see what the new issues. All right. All right. Thank you, sir. Take care Bank. You tim? Bye. Bye. Bye faye. Thanks for listening today. If you're looking for more tips, tools and resources to help with your travel tourism or hospitality business, please. Visit travel business success dot com. And there's all kinds of articles resources and expert advice to help you succeed. Hey, could you do me a favor? I would really appreciate it. If you would visit either I tunes Stitcher or Google play. Subscribe to my podcast and while you're there. I'd really appreciate it. If you could give me a five star review, the more global tourism professionals just like you who are aware of this show and get the advice that will help them succeed. The better we will all do, and it really helps me out too. I really appreciate it have a great day. 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Hannah Gadsby

You Made It Weird with Pete Holmes

1:33:46 hr | 6 d ago

Hannah Gadsby

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Purple because i said purple and i don't even know if it is purple because i'm colorblind flirt split but there is just because the pattern. It's it's because it's a check. I say when it crosses over through some of the other blues becomes pulse. What dietrich like you. That's a loving way to say. I'm not wrong. It's not only in parts is purple. I appreciate it is patchy i. I'm so happy to meet you too. What a miracle to be talking to you literally across the world year with video we're living in the jetsons via i'm feeling pretty special about. I've been watching your stuff in preparation and discuss. My heart is open and crying such a fan. I think you're incredible. So i'm excited to talk with you. Thank you very much. Yeah how are you getting on in. This is my first area. I'm in right now. He's just talking to jenny. So i've been alone for five days going for you. Thank you for asking. It's actually getting a little bit easier. I have to say in the net one of the things that i really related to was that you say you're a quiet gary I am a straight man. But when i would go to gay pride parades i would have the same observation. I was like if i was guy. Where are my gates. You know what i mean. Where the teacup. Quiet night at home people and then it occurred to me that maybe you were enjoying this as i as i sorta them in part i am with with a lot of reservations for what is happening in the world. You're able to separate the two. It is I am enjoying the social anxiety. Ings is nil now because no like drawing boundaries i don't have to draw boundaries the mandates. That's where don't have to pay interest either. Well it's icon find interest so what life what my life was usually made up of was doing the cleanup often my lack of ability to fight interests. You've made a career out of your lack of ability to feign interest. Oh lovely yeah. So then i have to clean up because i don't want to hurt people's feelings but also i can't pretend cat about some things but the social anxiety has just. I've not had low level of of of anxiety since i can remember pam and also stability in Chain which i really love like i love retain but Comedy what it is. You don't get retain you don't get to have written so i've been enjoying that and gardening like is that right garden. Yeah yeah. that's that's lovely. I've talked to many guests that garden and they all say that it's all there all the lessons. You need all the wisdom from the earth. I'm not exaggerating. They seem to see the cycles and they get a lot of messages from their garden. Do you feel that way. I know that's a leading question but yeah absolutely. Yeah i might show thank you. My grandma said it's not a garden. It's not the garden the gardening so it's And the gardens quite forgiving. You you know it gives you the lessons lake. Have watch the plants year. They'll tell you before they die that they dying and you. Can you have time to to to help them and save them in the dead plant sort of useful. Does that then become the mall for next. I mean we've seemed your loss from our methodology the cycle of life. I suppose yeah. But that i wondered when you know in your in douglas. Coming out as ashby. It's not the garden the gardening. It's not comedy it's doing comedy. You know it reminds me. I have not been diagnosed. But i feel like i have some Asti leanings has a lot of comedians. do yet Like the guy in free solo. When i'm doing stand up and when i watched you doing stand up i'm not seeing an ounce. I'm seeing confidence. I'm seeing expression. Emceeing performance emceeing complete clarity over what they're saying the nuance of what the audience to sing. I wonder if that how does that. Feel the gardening of doing stand up. Does that snap you into a heightened state. That's more comfortable i imagine. Yeah the badghis again. A very set in a stand in stand up. So when i'm doing it's not being social this. No input happening in that moment. Only inputs taken from times have had time to think about things and re reshape them. And then i just sort of get to performance and shape it and gifted if you want to call it that to the audience. But i'm not taking anything nuanced back from the audience is the vibe that they audience energy. Which then i then have to. You know this this. I don't tend to change my routine a lot of sort of bedded then but there are a lot of different ways that you can change the way you perform a pace to suit nordion has with rhythm tempo emphasis changes depending on if an audience is up. You get up with it. If they down then you know you don't want to hammer them with the same energy a hammer alive lively audience but at some having a conversation i find having a conversation with someone much more difficult to i like. Podcasts are different. Because there's a performative element because it's being recorded and we sort of know the stakes. You know how long it's going to be. You might know about the tone or whatever it sort of. Take some of that. Ambiguity out me. Yeah yeah. I enjoy watching. Real people have conversations point which become creepy. The creepy food will. But i do. I don't i don't hate. I am quite social. But it's exhausting. So i like Just observe other people being social Find that quite delightful. And i feel like i've participated in every moment of of a conversation that i haven't actually spoken but as soon as i found as my fame level increased the less able. I am to just observe a conversation because you know people like me will drive this conversation. And that's not where i'm very comfortable. I completely understand has been a challenge. I i mean. I say it. All the time people laugh at sindbad quote. He says the comedians are funnier when they're riding the bus. Obviously your sex specialists brilliant. So i'm not challenging your humor level. You've maintained that but the ease with which you can blend into a party and observe. I mean that is sort of your job. Well i've got a lock. Climb to draw from so. I can't count company reasonably light in my life. I did feel sorry for key to find comedy and then no setting amount of stardom and then lule because you know what they draw from is not not experience and i think to a certain extent. The famine sudden fame is akin to trauma. It's of course it's not bad became to new color. Yeah yeah it's not necessarily bad you know and you have more like certainly more tools at your disposal disposal and But there is something traumatic about this shifting circumstance that i felt after the net. That made me just wanna withdrawal from the world. I mean it's not what you were after. I think that's what makes your work so special and i know Douglas was your tenth specials so clearly you're somebody who's doing it because you enjoy it. It's what you're good at. It's written on your bones to do it and the comedians that i know that do it for money or power or fame fame being probably the worst those well maybe power but fame being a bad one they never make it so it is hoisted upon you. Do that make it well. That's that's a good to point that out. I don't know if i agree with me there. Let's put it this way. I tend to not enjoy those kids kind of comedian that i'm really fascinated with and they're not funny at all but successful and it's not uncommon going. I hate him 'cause successful. I just confused. Because i'm like you know because i look at things and i'm like breakdown what i say and i'm like it's not funny or interesting what's happening and it's the the rhythm of which i say they bring to the table like they bring this energy and that's All but i had to learn the energy Slicing dyson Is clinical as you like with with with comedy. And i could get that to the table but i have to really learn how to modulate my voice. That's one of the first things i noticed. I'm so glad you brought up. I wanted to ask you how you learned again. Not to assume Somebody on the spectrum that you can't do that but that is one of the first things you look for. I don't know maybe don't look for it but like the inability to modulate and perform. And when i want you. It's off the charts. You're doing it like crazy yet. It's probably a little too off the chats. Not my charts are very mild charts. The if you happen upon early my early performances i am. I am dead pan. I used to get reviews like hannah. Gadsby dull and listless and talk and i could be very much a particularly. My early career did something like the edinburgh fringe in. That's really overwhelming experience. So i'd be okay in the first few days of the festival and then i get exhausted. Because it's a stimulus. The whole time. And and then so then awakes in i would be delon leslie because i was just locking down the only place. You could go inside. I didn't understand. Had protect myself. Full line because i was diagnosed. So you know also. There's a thing called masking and goes on the spectrum. Particularly do that because girls are expected of aptly of my age when we were growing up. you know. The standard withheld held to about being social and goes on spectrum observed behaviors of those around and mimic Where's boys on the spectrum. We're allowed to have specialist knowledge baylor anti-social is like they're just boys you know that's what boys do but goes during that i. It's not like you made a special set of circumstances and family to let you do that. We had the you make the point angel and horror. We talk about that. A of the show. The archetypes. The character choices and i'm thinking about growing up even in the eighties and nineties. We add steven reich comes to mind the idea of a role that i have people in my family that are on spectrum. Yeah they were. We would have something to go. Well he's sort of like that guy you know i mean i can i. I don't really know that. Many deadpan or draw or whatever it might be said antisocial models or character choices for women to model. Yeah i would say that. If i was mayo like if i was like that's where i would have got to a but an often. What is sir. I am experiencing as passion. People receive a as anga. I'm colder angry. Comedian and just not angry. I'm curious flustered like this angry at the will. But i'm not. I don't really really let go of anger quite as late because as soon as something doesn't make sense or is exhausting. I'm just like well a few pop. So the way people raid. May i think is to do with. I probably express it incorrectly to near. Typical is and also than laid on top of that is how people like to put down public facing women women with with a with a platform as a passion is always sort of if you'd like what a woman is saying. Then you but you can't necessarily fault default. They say it. So it's an. It's sort of a double whammy. Yeah that's very interesting. Yeah i mean it sounds very much like that was what you said. If you were a man you could have become that choice. But if i did. Stephen wright type comedy which i love than i would impersonate him to. The cows came home. And i came home twice a day. The milking If i would be classed as being stupid like you know a little bit sort of soft in the head so to speak that dollop of understanding given to two boys i completely. I've seen that as well of course and You know when. I first started doing comedy. It was a bit of a gift to be off putting because it gave me an age when i woke on stage i was so outside the bounds of what april expected from me that it gave me that. Like pause to establish myself You know like you know as a as a big a woman. I'm supposed to be jelly as tasmanian in australia. All supposed to be stupid as a lesbian all supposed to be angry. But i was just this sort of confused globe. Nan and people like quant how to respond to that. So that gave me room. You know and it's really important for studying. Comedy is to have that disarming quality so then you can establish yourself instead of having people stereotypes but the that became a straightjacket off while. Because i couldn't toll unless i. There's no way i could talk about the spice rack. And the you know with if i didn't than make some sort of lake aja help. The audience adjusts to my sexuality. Might look my voice. All sorts of things that are not typical of me So there's aspect of me furious amendment. Because i would like to just tell you about the personalities of different spices herbs. Perhaps you grow in your garden. That's the one thing. Success is going to probably afford me. But i have to fight against the the piece of work in a way that established without undermining it. So susan like you ninette gave me this platform. But i'm not going to use that platform to do nenet tune in at three rain and four and you're not the fast and the furious if i'm masking men tend to call you furious for some reason but fast. I mean everybody nobody. No comedian is ever called me fast either. Douglas it's really dense show and i have a lot of energy on stage. And that's simply. Because i had an hour and a half show net big net flicks going people off that gives them off ramps. And it's serve a really tightly woven shutters so you take out one piece another pace crumbles later on the show so you can't just take chunks out so i thought i'll just talk fast and that's what happened and that sort of In how. I develop my signature. How fast were you literally insurance. So you weren't joking when you said you to cut parts of the show out to fit in the explanation of what was come. I think that is hilarious. And i can't believe somebody of your stature with ninette still was in the confines of you can't do a ninety minute special. That's wonderful like i think you know. Success comes with a lack of it. Like i think the show is you know is bigger and better in my mind but i think for an audience. You know you don't want someone rambling for ninety minutes. You know. I think. I think you know having an edit function external to you is is. Is you know. I respect Hoopla comeback from nuts. All you know a think about all notes and if they don't make sense then i'm quite happy to stand my ground but you know i don't know what the viewing habits I personally don't watch all of a comedy show myself. So you know that made sense and douglas was a particular show that made sense for you know it was rapid fire. But you know something. They took a real risk on the net. So i think those mutual respect. I love that i love. Humility gets a bad rap. I think sometimes comedians can believe their own hype to their detriment and there is something to be said like it is cold data right. You don't want your art sculpted by the data chisel but at the same time the data can be leaned into it. It's like people if you ever have to do a clean sat or something and you end up writing. Some brilliant stuff because of the restriction. Oh i i live life because of restriction i only way blue for instance because it's it's both restriction and give scope for play because there's a lot of different blues but mine don't have to get stressed about choice particularly not so much in the morning getting dressed but when i'm buying clothes so like to come up with an idea of who how i look it's just like it's easy now. Think that's brilliant. You figured out the way that your brain plays it. Yes to play. It plays better with restrictions than just with wild freedom. Yeah and for news like As some of on the spectrum having someone on the outside saying this doesn't necessarily work is compensation of always. Had you know of always had to adjust the way that i communicate in order to be understood. You know the point is to be able to communicate. It's not the object. You know you know i save my standup. As the point of it is being able to share communicate tech. What's inside may and share it with the outside well to end you know. Taking taking feedback is critical to that. And that's before it even gets to net flicks. It's already gone through a whole process of that because audience is like tell you their own way won't work doesn't we're in the fabric business. That's what we do. That's essentially why. I'm able to be quite easily humble about my success. Because i didn't expect the net to work like it was written as a shows. Like you know what i'm just gonna put this on the table and people aren't going to like it because that'd be an observing liking comedy and this this is not it i i i do. I'll say like to call bullshit. I had to write that show. Because i didn't understand what people wanted me to say and i was recently diagnosed on like i have to shake things up because i had an audience so i wrote this show and expecting it half hoping for it to backfire not have to take a backseat on my career because exhausted from travel and now i understood why and so i wrote that show expecting it to fail and it did not and so at system as like i don't necessarily understand what audiences want and the success of ninette was not just down to what i created but the audience let the audience was what made that show successful without the audience. Not no that would not have made it onto net flicks if the audiences hadn't said during the live performance It lit a fire on. Its life that's right in its lot. It's the you know when when comex an shy about telling me that you know minute was rubbish. And because it's not comedy it's hard to sort of take them seriously because it's like you're ignoring that the audience is also involved in deciding what they want. Right i feel like those same comedians. If would use the opposite logic in their own defense. You know what. I'm saying there overlooking the fact that you have your case study in front of the which is your audience and you do it hundreds of times i. I'm not really up to speed on that. I wasn't i. Maybe i don't wanna be naive. I assume a show like that would get haters. But i didn't know people were just flat out telling you. That's not comedy yeah. They're not telling me they're not. They're not that brave. But i think people think that talks to me which i do get that impression. One of my questions is friends. Question watching friends the real. You binging friend. Yes i am. I missed out on that pot when i was growing up. A american television. My mum didn't like it. she didn't like it. Because assumption she did but generally speaking was british crime dramas not not american comedy patching up. Well i find interesting. The raise mom didn't like american comedies is because of the canned lofta. She gets furious. She said that's not funny. She said i don't need someone to may when to laugh. And you do have a really different experience if you watch something without the prompt lofta. I don't think it's a bad thing. I think it's kind of fine. But i don't mind friends there is a lot of you know Around the fact that it's homophobic and i'm not seeing that quite a tuned timah phobia there homophobic characters. But the attitudes not celebrated. And i think that's a. It's time what wasn't homophobic back then So you know like you know. That's i i'm an audience so that's not necessarily relevant to a young audience. I'm not gonna cy young people. You must like the show. Why would you this lexa terrible. I find it comfort in those ninety shows. I wonder if this was something hypnotic to about the pace and the color palette all of sneaks experienced. Let's back in the day. it's going to become fitting if it's if you didn't fury younger Less chance funding confident like Nostalgia is a really really powerful sings. And but i come from a tricky place. Because i didn't experience it at the time. 'cause i you know. We went allowed to watch american and once i left i was never in a position i had a television. I'm not one of those people. Like i didn't watch television. I i didn't have a tale of vision. I couldn't afford. I would have watched it if i had one. Yeah would have love to watch. One know share houses in television and i got i watch what they expect but and to just pretty much pandemic. I've got television. I'm mostly in charge of the remote. Hey and it's fine. I feel bitter about that in I work with restrictions so having someone else choose what i watch is fine like watching other people's conversations you pick up on. Hey what are people watching yet. But what fan really fun with friends is because i've spent my whole life just observing following patterns and i'm i'm really good at predicting what lines coming next. Only god. can i tell you my gang. Show my game. You'd be great at it. We watch a show like friends. Chandler's got as well know who's Who's the dumb one not. Joey is joey. Joey's the jemaine. Been equalled them gas may it's ross. Ross is the dumbest of the dumb dumbs. Okay it's ross. Ross has his face covered in chocolate. Cake rachel comes in. He looks up. He's cod it was rachel's birthday cake. And then we pause it and then we go to our panel of comedians for them to guess and get one point or beat it and get two points. I feel like you would be good that game. Yeah right because you know. I mean that. We know the music when i watched your stand up. You know the music of comedy the problem with my if it's in that context i wouldn't well if i'm with panel of comedians and competing for the funniest line and it's like i cannot 'cause i i sort of go. Oh you've got the comedy covid. I can sit back like competitive. Like it's it's a real flaw. So i think that's i think that's what if i was on a panel of people taking it seriously. Yeah i would take it seriously and be funny. Oh i'm sorry i see. You're making a distinction if we're just competing as comedians. What what's the difference between competing and taking it seriously. Well because my comedy comes from a mis interpretation of the world around me. When i try to be funny. I'm less funny because you know there's a gap off. I can't catch up quickly. And then i realized all. That's funny that's a joke. I realized how. I've made a mistake. Yes whereas so but whereas like it's funny because it's something endearing about that but if i'm i'm trying to be funny i'm trying to be funny then i it's i can do it but it seems hola if i'm where i'm coming from his is trying to be genuine like genuinely trying to be a good person and i'm genuinely trying to do the right thing. I inevitably make mistakes and then people have to try to do that. And i think i completely relate so much of where i get premises from is from something i did in earnest that was misunderstood and this is why one of the things that i found asked me about myself was taking things too. I would often take things way too literally. Does that resonate with you. Yeah i mean it's it's really funny to be now because you know i've got enough. I think one of the the bad things that the representation of people on the spectrum and why a lot of people don't believe they're on the spectrum recognize themselves in the stereotypes is that what's often missed in the observation of from your typical people is the the humor and like most And i'm talking about people on the part of the spectrum where we have the capacity to be verbal. But i do have a friend who's got a child on spectrum his non verbal. But he's funny like but you just have to. You have to find you know the language have you seen. Asperger's are asked the dock. And i think it was on netflix. I'm sorry if i interrupted. I was gonna say it's an improv team or a sketch team and they all are on the spectrum. I have much. I'll have to look. It's a clue it's really really funny. It's really great when you see when you're talking about so you're saying you china yet the like for me and most people on the speaker like there's a moment where we don't get things and that's why people t seem to freezes and then this pity but if you just wait a couple they might just like oh are now i missed the point that and also what happens in that moment where we've missed the point and then we go back over the movement and try and make sense of it. We come up with all the meanings in all the angles. And that's a lot of where comedy comes from its rating hindsight. Yes inside and so. I think there's a there's a we need to ray riots. You know most most stories about suna people on spectrum changed with sort of tragedy but you know the capacity to huma quite disarming yes You just have to keep the tape playing. I mean that's it's sort of the point you make in the net. It's like tell the whole story pick pick where you're going to extract the meaning and you're right i mean when i look at movies like revenge of the nerds or whatever i'm like revenge of the kids with asperger's is that is that what's happening right now. Like that was us you recipe for instills. Basically exactly i. That was us in the eighties. That's what we saw in the eighties and even into the nineties and now it's so beautiful the have more and more examples. It's really meant a lot to me. When jerry seinfeld said that he felt like he was on the spectrum he later took it back but i was thinking of him early. Kept the type plane. He played it back. did he gets a saying. You can't just do net. I think he might have gotten some flak. I mean at that level. I mean he's The by thousand 'cause he can get himself a diagnosis and get into this properly. You know what i mean like. Come on come you have a doctor that will come to your house. No problem yes yeah right get get you get diagnosed since it's it's actually baffling many one because clearly hits like there's no doubt in my mind that he that he is on the spectrum. I recognize it in the way that he thinks again. Not diagnosed. either i. i'd be interested to look into that. But i thought this point which being diagnosed is is incredibly difficult and i i got lucky in in many ways and us quite dogged about it because it also. Because i'd be misdiagnosed. I i think if you experience as i did like life was difficult like because i had i am on the spectrum like there are people who are high functioning Is it's cold that you know. There's a line which you high functioning but you live a poll life because every bit of your function goes into nearly existing. It's treading water adults. And so i. I wouldn't call myself high functioning because this is quite a large part of my life than i m unable to navigate. That's a good special title. Hannah gadsby functioning. It's not call it high. Let's not and i think this it's really interesting space in comedy because often this is put down to gender. And when you when you think that there's a lot of comedians on the spectrum or given spectrum nudge recall but this straight men and the experiencing an it becomes dialogue about women with their fairly intuitive feelings And i look at that. An and i know woman on the spectrum behaves the way these men described you mean the and i know i know plenty of men. Who have these feelings. I don't understand nyc and they get angry about stuff. I just like. Why are you angry. It doesn't make sense you're talking about is not and i think that i think honestly. I think we'd have a much more interesting dialogue if we didn't do the difference between men and women and we did the difference between near typicals in an end. More atypical folk. Because a lot of you know the difference between men and women has shaped the way we view minimum and like that joke faked out know in popular culture. Like the the tagline of so many jokes is like women and what should they is like people with emotions and which is not exclusive to women of course and it's also because the you know they get to drive the conversation it looks less than because they're the ones with the microphone they going. Hey these these. My wives all the cushions evan. Why do they call it a throw pillow. It's time so it's a good bit. I'm just sort of so people. Then they they Yeah so. I think it's sort of interesting that it's always gendered and i'd like to sort of stir that pot up. 'cause i understand men like a lot of my comedy is securing the toxic masculinity Because i experienced it a lot. Because i actually get along with guys because i don't have i don't have a lot of cushions i mean that is one of my seinfeld has a thing where it's like women need cotton balls men don't need cotton balls. I i love side bill. An who really vein. A nate cotton bowl. That's right it's a more nuanced severing of of the human rainbow that you're asking for which i completely agree with. Let's not thinking of free a lot of women and afraid a lot of men up to let's take the hate of gender. Yes and think about it in terms of you neurobiology. That's right very more much more interesting. I take the weld in and you turn it around and take the world backout whereas gender is really gender sexuality is a very if people feel like they could just break that off of who they are but the way you think in the way. The world is just fundamental to who you are. Yeah do you think that's fundamental to your sex and your gender. Is that what you were saying or are you saying when people think about you in terms of your sex agenda. They and the way you sort of like i feel like my my Autism is is fundamental to who i am because it doesn't go away when not looking at me like i still think like the way that i think even though no one's looking at me and trying to understand who i am. Yeah in the way that you think is maybe even it pre. It's a precursor to your body to your gender i. it's it's even more intimate. Yeah and people. It's a people tend to then you know that's where the full science of eugenics come into it because they you know the they presuppose that race gender and sexuality then informed to even for like a defect. That's right that's not right. That's what eugenics is really just absolutely dumb science layman like even yet. It's just not actually science. Science is a bad way. It's like people just invented or they did val my wife al. Who does the friday episodes with me. She pointed out she had had attract back to the moment in history. When one group was trying to own another group and in order to justify that they had to come up with jennings base because in order to own another group to consider still superior and the measure of that is civilization rate. Compet like racism is by its very nature civilized idea. We have to invent a science in order to justify masquerading as civility. of course. Because it sounds. You can't put that on the quaint if masking. You can't ask massacre ya. I love that line. You said if you're in the minority you don't matter. My wife is Ten years younger than i am. And she's been very helpful in helping me see the the privilege and unseen perspective of even jokes that maybe not my jokes. Some of my jokes. Some of my perspectives are just coming from a place of assumed normality. And when you said that in your special it was very powerful to me. I am tinguely in the cheeks just thinking about it. I wonder if you could talk about it. I when i go to see shows. And when i did Ten years ago. I remember starting to pick up on it. I was like there's justin undercurrent of women are inferior. Or there's just an undercurrent of gazer inferior or blacks are inferior or mexicans. Latino ex people whatever it might be and it was fascinating like you as a notice of patterns. I'm like where's the line. This is a regular audience. Nobody's here to see any comedian. They're just watching a handful of comedians and seeing where this random group of three hundred people would put the line and it was pretty generous in the favor of. It's normal to be straight. It's normal to be white. It's normal to be mail because lines not drawn by the audience. That's right that's right. Talk about that. The lines drawn by culture like no individual gets to decide stuff in a in a you know like so the when people is guilty of this knife you to close your eyes and think of adopter. Clouds rise thing comedian basically. It's dr hy tax cut off. James invitation you know what i mean like. It's just what you do and that's because that's what would give an you know like the mother-in-law the mother-in-law jokes on that sort of bothered me for a long time because it's seen as if it's like harmless truth but if you dissect the mother-in-law basically it's separating a daughter from her family which is essentially what marriages nagging the day. Not what it is now but back in the day it's like you said the woman from her own family with a dowry hopefully and and the mother-in-law doesn't get to have you know as soon as the mother-in-law inside yourself into the family it's not quote interesting. It's like why am i. Respecting you you don't have money. You don't have power. I'm not related to you. Get out of here. That's whether you know lake and so the you know also you separate women from their own family you separate the source of power So the the mother-in-law joke is like a really in a long line of patriarchal devices to make sure that women don't have inter inter generational pal structures. Wow that's challenging for me. I'm thinking of a joke. I had where i said. I hate my girlfriend's parents and it's okay. I'm not embarrassed. We can talk about it. Meaning i don't mind being the bad example. The joke was what are we going to hang out. I'm having sex with your daughter. You know what i mean like. You don't like me. Don't pretend to like me. But i wonder and i'm only pointing this out not too for the fun of falling on my own spirit but to say like i didn't know but when i hear you say that it makes sense like let's get your family out of here because you're with me now right. I mean isn't that what's happening. But there's also an section there about the sexuality of the dole to so you'll presence therefore makes parents confront that and that's another thing like girls young women at to have sexuality. That's you're absolutely right. The big shock in line of that joke. I didn't say having sex. I said i'm fucking your daughter. You should want to hit me with a shovel. Yeah okay why. That's exactly what to do that. Like why wouldn't they have a healthy sex life i am. I'm there now. The special was quite a while ago. Four i didn't mean to sound defensive. I'm just saying i see it now. I guess yeah that with we have a daughter now and it's funny. I catch myself having thoughts. That i have never seen really reflected on tv. Which is you'll be holding your baby and you're like she'll have sex one day right because that's the old it's like. Don't think thing. And then i go. Yeah i hope she loves it. I hope she knows wonderful. Sexual freedom and beauty and passion and joy and bliss. I know that's weird to say about my own daughter put like well. You know you know you don't get if you frame. It is like you don't own a human. Then that's kind of healthy right. Not get involved yourself you find. But there's that was never modeled for me to be like. Yeah i hope my daughter. It was always she better. She better be home by eight. You know i've always been really fascinated by story. I'm why stories sort of overwhelmed. People before fat and i spend a lotta time on the story of adam and eve ants in both both an douglas. Was there. It was part of the shows in both times. Sort of like had to be pulled out for various reasons. It didn't quite what it had a long held fascination with the story vaneman even white has such a big influence on so many different sorts of people and how in the world of hydrophobia. It's adam adamant. I've known and steve I've been it's madam and eve but it's for my mind it's like it's a story that helps is i think is supposed to help people understand the the navigation and the troll merv leaving childhoods and becoming an adult and that sort of you know and that story the way we tell it to each other particularly in religious religious circles as will call them. It's it's a shame the women and so that's part of that. Is the slight women. Supposed to fill more. Shame than men arounds vats leaving of That's right even. I remember the realization of a teenager. And i was like. Oh adam's apple. That's like. I could be wrong. This is my child all the way down. It didn't go all the way down. He didn't swallow it like she swallowed it. She fell for it. The the snake But i am completely with you. I just think adam. Typical man didn't choice food. he's more of a hoover he he likes it down. You know. I think that's what the biblical author's get. Yeah i want to go back to something. You said earlier about trauma very interesting subject. We talk about trauma a lot on this. Podcast is comedy trauma i mean. Don't you feel like the. I feel like the most trauma experienced was induced by comedy in the first ten years. No i don't i don't see comedy is troll my howdy. How do you think i'm not sure i understand you. I think i'm going off remember. We were saying fame as a type of trauma. So i'm using a lower case. T i'm not putting it up there with the salts or anything like that. No i get that. But i'm just i've done actually understands how i'm talking about the the humiliation and the pain. It reminds me of you talking about people on the spectrum that are treading water that are learnt. That seem to be functioning but really. They're like a duck with the feet underwater sailor. -ly you see an open mic. In the first ten years they might seem okay but there's a lot to digest whether or not we call trauma. Maybe you could talk about that yet. Look i i don't like back trauma. So there was no way unexperienced. Samat you know like you know just kind of a quite a broad spectrum of trauma accumulative patriots day and bit some bulbs before. I even started comedy. And i'm say it is any point of pride or anything As i know to be the truth i would not be made in had to do it for the open mic channels because it just seemed absurd at the same like. Why would you do that. You just talking to a bunch. And i did a few gigs in those places and it just seemed like the audience's disrespectful the the comedy was most often quite hostile. Oh yeah it was. Were you know this. is you know. I've never seen so many ripe jokes back-back Might not so. I've like well. This isn't the wealth may so you you didn't do participate not didn't have time to but strategy. We have a different sort of model of standup than in in the us. And what is drives that. The most i believe is the culture around the melbourne international comedy festival. Which is an open festival. Much like the fringe. But it's fingers out into all kinds about Festivals similar modal. It some comedy and so you're encouraged to just put on our show so in fight amongst fight the same audience without comic you find foreign audience into a bunch of people to come down again. We're going to buy a ticket to show. Who so then. How did you prepare that show. Forgive my naive question. Is i started small. They run a competition called rule comedy. Where looking full. So i got my start in the role. Comedy comedy comedy Melbourne comedy festival new talent search. And i won that and then they did another thing in the next festival where they put a whole bunch of new comex into like a you know a a lineup shot and i did really well layer. Then someone said i wanna support you do an hour long show another coming. Adam hills is styling and he said he's To produce your first album show in the mobile comedy festival so pretty much. I was my experience of it. Although i'm was comic supporting other comics that idid melbourne. And that was my take away from the scene Not everybody was from australia. But just not european scene. David daugherty and i came quite close. Yeah just couldn't name. That felt that way to me. Maybe that's why i. I'd like to think it's just because i'm an evolved person that's seen one person shows that seeing a variety different types of comedy list for what you did reminded me of the shows that i would see in and then a good way of course. Yeah well. it's just the way it's long-form comedy like. I don build an hour. Long show out of five minutes sets that work. I take a- as a as a. I'm agnostic as to which is better. I don't believe that's even a conversation with having two different forms is this like better marathoner. Sprint it depends on. Who's chasing it and it's it is is different. You know so by the way. I ride a show is different. I think to a lot of us. Comex because i'm taking it as a as a whole on that guy taking twenty minutes set and going. He's my best fifty minutes for matt and building off that you can see it in the structure. You can see it in the themes. You sort of. Remind me of chris rock and burghley the way that you'll reestablish a theme over and over say a key line touchstone and those are things you get over a long form. Show that i would say if. I was going to stereotype american comedy. You're not gonna see that as much. Even though chris rock courses american but that has that our that i think is particularly near a typical to to do that. I don't think chris rock is. Oh chris rock huntington's hundred percent your typical. I mean i feel like i'm not qualified maybe to diagnose but when i go to the seller or the comedy store i'm like it's one of the reasons to be honest. I was curious if i was because i'm looking around. I'm like if this is who i get on with this. I feel the most comfortable at i was. I think we're an interesting group. Just maybe not the most neuro typical group. So yeah i agree with you. Know there's a part of that problem in newest comedy coach. Is that the this seems to be. You have the ability to believe that you're doing it on your own because you separated from the the the structures yeah In melbourne lake to participate in the comedy festival. You have to rely on paper to help you get a show up you do it on you have to hustle on your own oil. You have so you kind of aware of the underpinnings of the things that you cannot do in order to make a comedy show work. Yeah i got america you can just i get on stage and do my thing and i'm magical on the medical. I do it all on my own. Science bullshit aid people with different skill. Sets you in order to like get it. Seems like it's the most individualist Foam and say agree. But it's not like nothing is you. Don't get to do comedy without a lot of people with a lot about the skill sets that you don't have it just made me write a street joke. Hannah what did the la comedian. Who went before you think. You're said he went home. I did i did too. I bet he would have gotten it. I shouldn't have just given a longer. Bazi definitely would have gotten something. I think as opposed them like. I can't imagine like he'd be chatting at the back of my mind. Was going kid. Montreal comedy festival. He's in his tesla he's found of next week. He's hustler you're right. I i did have a guy who followed me. Who just did hold said about how much he hated the net. Oh my god really. Yeah which was actually fine. Because it was so clear he was unstated like ida destabilized world worldview to such an effect that it was just like dude. Wow i there's a weird bullying that can happen in stand up. I'll never forget. I was doing a show and the first comedian. I i can't remember. It might have been a girl and the second guy went on stage and he just went. He wiped his brow. Will and even that i mean this is what i talk about. What i'm saying for me. Starting in comedy. I'm gonna use the dramatic. It was difficult for me as sort of like a sweeter more sensitive person. I was like you just fucking sold her out. I'm standing next to her. It's that's a. that's a heavy thing to process. It's some that's the competitiveness of it. That i find like that's that's what people say it adds is like who has the best joke. Conversation is in a conversation. It's topper topper tougher on top of a taupe and which is just the most as someone who observes conversation had dow that it to what. Comedians bakery is dull events in that in that context. And so you know one of the biggest foams of stand up in is roast. And i hate routes like food Like just if the point of opening your mouth is to be cruel not want anything to do that. Like it just feels awful and i'm not saying it shouldn't happen but shoulder there's other is this. No i understand. I have been known to enjoy a roast and i've known to do a and backstage. Everyone's crying so you you are not without a point. I mean that that needs to be reckoned with the good side of it. I think i like being roasted to give you the you like your name group. If you'll being roasted yeah survive. But i never been on the in groot again one of the privilege. That's that's to. Yeah i hear you so what. You're witnessing is like bullying. Yeah i mean you just help me realize this is the moment i'm realizing like of course you love being roasted. What is there. all. I can do is win by laughing if you make fun of my divorce for example and i laugh i just win but if i roast somebody who's actually as you say doesn't fit in. It's not as fun. Right is that we agree. Ed i mean you know it's just basically an excuse to analyzed prejudice. I'm yeah i mean yeah. That's very very very interesting. You used the word fitting in you say that you feel incorrect. Which was one of the most emotional parts of the show For me. I'm wondering how you're getting on with that now. And if you have anything to say to people who clearly relate to you even if their life is different but they relate the feeling of not fitting in they they relate to the feeling of being incorrect and as you mature and grow wiser what we say to people that feel that way. How do we how do we do. We want to fit him. Do we wanna feel correct. I think they'll get more understand that it's a conversation fitting is always a conversation you don't fit in truly unless you yourself like and such a a weird way of like what is yourself is basically. It's a way of being in the world that doesn't feel exhausting like if if in order to fit in your exhausted. That's not. yeah that's not you either. That's a bad story. You're telling yet. And so like i think but it's a battle. I i think. I think all the people should be much kind of young people like i think. That's just the first thing 'cause we're away like when it's all you're trying to do is to find that balance between who who who you wanna be. How how does the world not hate you. And i just don't think older people should pile on as young people trying to work that out. I think it's one of the laziest phones of comedy as older people going. Oh when i was young like yeah and look what the world is. Now you're old. You fucked it up. Shut up. I think people lose touch with what it's like to be young. I feel like that's a pretty is particularly successful people. Yeah yeah yeah so a little bit more grace from the older people. Has there been anything that's helped. You have to think that your expression on stage is help to you. Know yourself and feel more comfortable in your body. How you doing with that shame. I was raised religious. So i can't. I'm not even trying to compete. So please don't hear it that way. But i'm like i feel shame over being just sexual. It doesn't matter what it is straight. I was raised by lapsed catholic. Which is new mattress all the guilt. None of the holidays. So i kind of get it But this shame kind that. I experienced from all sorts of areas. Don't just my sexuality. It's my body type like you know i don't ever talk about my body on stage now Like that is. I draw a hardline. Name why because it's just an open open season on women's bodies so it's not just it's not just you. It's just the joke about my body because they've all been written and none of them none of them. None of those jokes about women's bodies give any room for women to experience their own body But econ escaped coats. You brought up in. You can't escape the fact that people do judge women serve. You know i. I get aloha stability about my my how i look and why. That's the reason. I shouldn't speak but you know. Sometimes that affects me. Because i was you know part of was raised. You know this part of the cruelty experience growing up. My body was wrong and that i was wrong in my body. So if there's any trolls out there listening you do. You do the way to company there. It is but also have the tools. Now that i'm older to understand that is and i'll just take a nap and get over it so you know it's now pipe but it's i really really really private person and so i struggle with not being nat anymore and i know i put it all out there but So you know it's it's given take but the sense of ownership that people have a sense of ownership about your ideas what you shouldn't shouldn't say and also limit to attic growth. That comes with sort of a touchstone. Success like ninette. Was they like this person now. So you know they want to trip you up with your own. What which is odd and somebody. I think i twisted an extent. I'm frozen in time to the person the lows the person that wrote didn't it but you don't get to have that experience of Changes that's very fair. What would we expect you not to change. After that was found extreme. I what i what i experience through. That was extreme and extremely destabilizing. We even talk about it in the net where someone says not enough lesbian content. Which i which you know I've seen other comedians gatt. It's like you're not doing enough for what you did. And it's like you know you're not you're a human being your evolving. You're changing. Do you feel that way facing another special desert if that's going to be a thing. What comforts me with. Anything i do now is that i was so ready to fail with that. That's how i'm gonna approach everything. I love that and it's not like i'll say whatever i want to say i take great care of what i'm putting out the world because i actually don't think that would harmless but on the same hand. It's like if i'm going to take risks. I think it's kind of fills important to me to sort of keep evolving and also like if i if i feel like i just like i had nothing like i came from absolutely nothing. Homelessness and snow options have made enough of a mark. you know Turned enough coin to live. If i live frugally enough and my vegetables grow each season. I'll be ryan you know. I'll be writing like in comparison to what my life was before the net. I'll just be right. Even if enough everything tach nap turns to absolute shit and on forever forgotten and you know in one generation time means nothing in I will be fine. And that's power. I mean empowering. And i believe. I mean we've seen it. I mean that is such a beautiful lesson for any artist. It's certainly beautiful for me that you were ready to fail expecting to fail. There's just something about the dark nights of the soul where you're just like fuck it people have to know. I have to say it. And that was one of your touchstones. I have to tell my story and isn't it so funny that ends up being the most successful thing. Yeah look stop giving a fuck. Yeah and i think everyone has to find that that on their. I think that there's a a. There's a danger in Tying will. I have to have this moment in order to have success like i just think people find success in their ways and there's so many different ways to to skin the comedy cat but i you know they say that you know. Take ten years of comedy to find your voice. And i always kind of rubbish that because i found my voices since i was on stage like i felt like i had this sort of ability in comfort in how i spoke on stage it did evolve always felt like i was but then sure enough ten years in the net. And i'm like. Oh yeah i get that now. I remember feeling the same way it was like. What are you talking about. This is me you think everything you do for. The first decade doesn't count doesn't feel that way but it goes in that's how it is. It goes in. So i think you know like i have a. I have such respect for the craft of comedy like i. I don't hate comedy as much as people would like me like to think i like. I just think it could broaden It could be a wider church I think it's really interesting. The the the policing of the joke tell me. I'm like you know. In order to be comedy. The lav has to happen last. And i don't necessarily describe subscribe to that. Light can like as long as i think is genuine laughter on as part of the journey. I think i think he get yeah. You know it's funny. Mike wrigley is one of my best friends. We talk almost every day. And i one time. I don't know why we're like. What do people say he was like he was like. I'll tell you what people say about you. If you tell them what they say about me and we did it and what i said that they said was he knows us. I was like people think you're like an npr one man. Show thing for the very same reason. Because mikey likes to go. Small any likes to go big. And he doesn't necessarily do the fifteen things in a row callback. Big flourish closer. He might end on like the new one ends with through my child's which isn't even a laugh line. It's just a you know it's like a it's a realization so you're not alone in that so that's what you mean by the policing is that am i hearing right. Yeah it's just like you don't get to participate because it's really weird in like people's like you know where the lust best hands free speech but you can't say it like that like what are you talking about a hypocrite. The you know i. I'm only saying that just so you know. I don't think you think you're alone. But i'm with you the discomfort that i felt i mean coming up in the clubs in the early two thousands and it was because i was religious that i was a little bit more sensitive to it but i also just you know i i would see stuff that would make me go like what the fuck is this. What is happening right now. Anywhere else that would be hate speech and this was a nod very woke person in two thousand three in chicago. It's not like i had my doctorate in lake sensitivity sensitivity. But i was still going like this guy just brought a bachelorette on stage and mime hunter. Like you don't have to be you know nobel peace prize winner to see that like what is going on with comedy so when you say a broader church name i'm with you. Yeah it's it's hard to break up a culture when you're in it like you know you can't blame almost camp like it's just such a shakeup because he's like how can you do you know how the people doing that probably doesn't like doing but i think that's what you have to do. And so then you're able to describe well it's just. Hey get the job. Done that thomas because other people are doing it like you know on nc like the fact. Donald trump can get laughs at a rally. Men's that comedy so true not much like you get a crowd baying after the same blood you to anything against not actually well. That's my biggest problem with comedy is just getting people to agree with things that everyone agrees with. You know what i mean. And not everybody but i really mean just like the broadest. Isn't it great to eat a pizza. You know what. I mean. And he does that with his own. Bevy of selections isn't a yeah. I mean he say that. Because that's the sort of thing hillary did. Isn't it eat pizza. I don't want to run out of time. And i know we only have ninety minutes and i wanted to ask you. We always talk about religion. You talked about your mother. Being elapse catholic but i wanted to answer the question however as most interesting to you how you were raised and maybe where you are now not even from a religious sense but just like were alive. I'm talking to you. And it's tomorrow in melbourne through the internet. And as you said you are a consciousness in your body it thinks this way. I'm a consciousness in this body. Thinks that way were both. We were both woken up on an intergalactic mystery that no one really understands and we're hurling through space. How does hannah gadsby even attempt to experience that process that frame. It do have an understanding of spirituality or wonder or whatever you got i. I always had a childlike approach to things which is like a home. Never know all the things. There's so many questions. I love a question and i to frustrate teaches at school because i ten an answer to a question reverse jeopardy studied taoism. That's how i get through life. Like i find because it's just one texts and the new A deep dive it it. It's a text that sort of allows you know ideas spring fall than as you mature. Your ideas around the text can change but it it really is one that avoids dogma with john appeals to me because you know something that's written way back in the day concert five under the pressure of dogma like i think dumber is what what kills spirituality dogmas. Now that's what i call religion. It's like those compilation cds like it might be popular for a time but after a while we're like what was trumbull wamba. I don't understand. And like when i read the data aging. I'm like this guy. This is such a cliche but it is reading me. I know that's it's like this trick where it pushes through me and it makes me mirror back something that i didn't know i believe or saw or or it gets me quiet. Which is which is way better than any of that. Yeah and because it's so many different translations. It's sort of appeals to my patent mind. You know like i can't speak be regional language and no one really can now like in. It's not I take solace in the fact that chinese skull is also struggle with the But you know it's sort of like yeah. This is enough room for me in that in that text and also enough room for me not to exist at all which is also i find. I've never search for meaning may like it's always made sense that we live in them. We die and the mystery of what happens after we die. Seems like an absurd one. I think most religions use it as a way of people. Behave better care. And i'm like well that's a that's the way the toddler more grown up than that. This is like had. I just because that's why i love that i love that. Had i not hurt things and other people because that's just not right. So yeah that's that's sort of. How i you know you know i find it a and i have one particular audio version of which i find incredibly calm comforting to listen which was that. It could need woman. It could needle. He just did this. Podcast stephen mitchell has a beautiful translation and it it. He's buddhist so he like sort of rift on some of the verses meaning. It's not a strict translation in even tells you about but the essence of it is carried. Through so yeah. I'm a little skeptical of the buddhist me. Why sort of i- i- swayed toward the dallas dislike prescriptive. I think what you mean is that what is it in particular that sorta ruffles you feathers or doesn't just probably richard. I wanted for the longest time hannah to do a bit about how richard gere movies in the nineties. Do you remember when cool was cool. Like that's richard gere in the nineties. I it wasn't actually cool but like wearing sunglasses on the tip your nose leaning on a corvette in a trenchcoat and being like hey get in the car. That's richard gere in the nineties and it wasn't ironic. That's just cool cool. Do you know what that is. That is a writer's room full of people on spectrum. That is so fucking funny. That is hilarious. What is cool. I dunno give him a trench coat. Of course what has lamb dunk. I loved that while i love. I love that answer. I don't think we have to labor this. I've enjoyed this year. Great guests so you just gave and gave and gave so. I'll ask you the final question which is always. Can you think of a time in your life that you laughed very very very hard. Doesn't have to be a great story. Maybe your kid. Maybe it was this weekend. Maybe you tripped Maybe you were tripping. i've got. I've been writing down things that i'd said that a funny yes like an up shared them with other people in Down the thing that makes people off and sala just radio few those. How about that. I would love that are you kidding. I'm honored i'm hungry. Do you see any food. i'm gonna it. I mean i hate it. I mean i'm hungry. Do you see any food is the most literal. i'm hungry. do you see any food. 'cause i'm gonna eat it. I'm hungry attitude too much work. And i don't understand where the food is. Don't ask me to suck a fat leaf and call it a vegetable. That wasn't my line but it made me laugh so much. Ninety percent nothing Just little conversation yes. He's a conversation. I had a. It was a while doing a crossword with a friend on on them on the zoom. Yes and i said a clue. This clue what's hot in Pickles and i said hip drunk and they said in my defense. I was thinking about hot as in spicy. Picked a sausage said. Sorry what she said same shape. I got it before she explained it. I was there on the shape. And this is i mean we're vibe and now is little things. I've been collecting those little things. They're the little things that they really make me laugh. I love my toes. I just wanted to as a fan as they're going to be another specialty. Think let's it's really what i do when the net hit and ever wanted to pay him in ever. And you know you're gonna do your tv show. And i'm like that seems like recipe fanaticism. Or what you know having your own show about yourself self directed by you. Show run my youth recipe fanaticism and yet. There's enough proof on the table. I think i can contribute to that proof that it is an ego trip for sure yet but no i also like that's a someone on this the play some. That seems overwhelming. I i'm so. I sat down with my manager. Ms like where do we want to go. what is my ideal career. Unlike laurie anderson. You don't you just does her thing. Yeah analysts like she's batch it and just does think thing she you know she says. I want to do this thing now. I wanna make it film now that you always does a live shows. Yeah good for you. I mean talk about people doing things for for reasons. That are other people's reasons rather saying stupid shit because part of the culture that we're not even aware of or reliving someone else's dream so i'm so happy that you're wise enough to go way. Wait what actually do i want to do. Not what could i do. But what do i wanna do. Don't if it's wise enough. But i'm tired enough i'll take it. I'll take it the success. When i was young. I would have had the energy to what you spend it otherwise but i don't have a lowly. It's get the great gatsby i mean. That's what it would have been on. Nbc i'm sorry i get what's up homes a lot. I'm sure you get great gatsby but What can we yours times. My last name is homes. No but what's the rift. You haven't heard that. Instead of homeboy homemade. Say home Let's see i would have gone elementary. But that's the other characters. That is when i as watson it's elementary. Yeah you're right. Would no shit sherlock. When i make a dinner reservation i'll say home's like sherlock and they laugh and i go. That's my mother. Which which. I think good thank you and i do want end on sincere note and say you really tremendous. I'm so grateful for what you're putting out there because it's healing it's connecting and it's putting more love into the world so i hope you feel. Well i feel good loving you. I don't i. It doesn't matter how you help. Would you end. We have the guests. Say the catchphrase. It's button for the episode. The catchphrases keep it crispy. And then we'll be done kepa crispy keep it crispy is that what is cape crispy corpus christi corpus christi. That's a corpus crispy. Chris keep keeping crispy incorporate speed cape it. Crispy pickle confused. You did it though you said keep it crispy so account crispy crispy come on komo now. We're pleading i like that. I hope they come off literally co reid by like that to come on guys. Keep it chris come up it crispy. I hope we get to meet in real life someday. Nice thank you for doing this. It was a delight. Pleasure pleasure Kepa crispy you keep crispy Don thank you so much. Thank you so nice to meet you. Nice to meet each day fifty. I'm so crispy wanted.

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Episode 352, recorded 2020-02-12

Blue Lotus Buddhist Temple Podcast

54:58 min | 10 months ago

Episode 352, recorded 2020-02-12

"Good evening everybody Zo Hawaii today and so thank you so much for being here today. I would like to give will literally implemention about meditation before we start our practice because we have wonderful group today. That group came from in Gaddi. Great and they really like to study meditation. I mean there's first meditation Into their okay. How you a done meditation before he had today. We are going to practice to meditation. I practice loving kindness mutation and We need to add more. Lau in the world right and today we are going to practice loving kindness and first of all we have the practice loving kindness to ourselves in I. It's typically are going to practice loving kindness to ourselves. I'm I'm happy I'm peaceful like that because it is so important flow is so important. We need it right without making allowed to ourselves. How do we sin Laos to others just to fol how to practice loving kindness to ourselves? Then we are allowing us to other friends patrons who close to you the sisters practice you're busy sprain and you'll also enemies and vinoo practice loving kindness to your enemy sometimes you maybe you you you are thinking it is not important part but it is so important because so many things come to mind because if you have any difficult people in our life. We are living with the fear of punish punishment. If I do something wrong to community we think or something will happen to me exactly. You're thinking like that. We need to share a line. Those two are difficult. People difficult person to and then each of those to around the world human non human and also beautiful environment. This is loving kindness. Meditation you practice loving kindness meditation. It has eleven benefits awin benefits. We call Meta myth in loving kindness. Baha Benami Meditation. Okay but you know you don't need to thinking about that benefit things benefit come automatically to you know need to think about benefit you have to concentrate to remind you have practice to eleven thoughts loving energy if it has so many you know ideas so so many dreams five practice this loving kindness. I can achieve you know Good place it doesn't it means you cannot practice very where you have just stink or. I'm trying to stay the way I'm trying to stay. You know present moment. This is the moment so important to me and this moment not come back again. I have enjoyed this morning. Then you had breakfast meditation so many times. When you practice meditation. We held close allies. We need closer vice. What happen mine goes everywhere. We say we have monkey mind now. You can't imagine a monkey. Monkey mind goes anywhere. We have to recognize our mind. We how do understand about a mind how. How do we understand? My mind goes to extreme. One extreme is equal pass memories and also stories and also sometimes future fan plan when close a mind a mind goes that it extreme thinking about mom think of thinking about dinner when we think about that stream. We missing something. What present moment right present moment? We have to enjoy this moment. This meditation thoughts `Tatoes as how steam present moment? Okay today are going. To learn out is different moment and then we are going to practice. You know reading meditation. Meditation we We have to observe breath. Why do we need to up? Zilla bread Our Life Life. We talked grits. We cannot ally it means. We can't handle. Brits began stop all hold our blitz. Can you can you hold your breath like it? Five minutes know exactly. You're going to die. It means we have to breathe normal way right. Read teen pita beaten readout in breathing meditation. We habte we have to understand breathing process because British when we understand our bread. It means the end the standard life. We cannot change the world we held in our life. I was right and in the Buddhist teachings you would that taught wonderful. Verd- what is the word he sequel? Aching mean dumb. But Sika mean see we are your inside not outside always always all the time looking for outside what happened. What happened in our neighborhood? What happened now. Is what happened in the world like that. But we are not focused in that much about inside right but what. We need to focus on inside reading meditation. Mindfulness practice data's US how to focus on our inside how to understand our weaknesses. Okay and also sometimes when you practice meditation of Mine. I told you goes everywhere. No need to control your mind okay. No need to control your mind and but you have to understand nature mine how they are three situation of mine. That are three situation of mine. There are three situation thoughts. What toward side icing thought sorry meaning towards disappearing? When you practice you know loving kindness compassion you know there are so many tourists. Come to your mind exactly. Some thoughts are very peaceful some Tulsa very bad at that time you you you need to control your thoughts you how to observe them. We are distorted. Come from I want to teach you. There are two mines. How many minds to minds? I one is equal. Wholesome mind and second one call unwholesome mine we all have to mindset. Now think about when you're getting angry with your parents or teachers but you might. What my new at the time because unwholesome mine and another name. I use for that demon. My Demon Mine is still I? Have you know anger to sometime? I'm getting angry with my brother. And then what mine I have. I can see my demon mind right but when Naylor fighting each other right and And other way we need the practice loving kindness compassion that mind we call the human mind wholesome mine it means to mind demon mind diamond mine today. We are going to practice. Which might demon mine known diamond mine? It is Shinier and you how to shine eat. There say you are here okay. And also they knew your thoughts you have to. I told you you have to recognize. We are these thoughts come. Come from some savvy part of our anger sometimes that towards part of our compassion loving kindness to investigate and then you have to see how they are remaining then win the disappearing then you can learn newer nature of your mind. Okay Wendy monk came to the and said would the this. Meditation is so horrible and when I practiced this meditation my mind go goes everywhere I had. I had distracted. Mine is so crazy crazy monkey. This meditation doesn't work for me then. We'll say with the to calm and he said it will be changing and didn't monks wind today following day. He came to see the Dan said with. This medication is awesome. I got it I need it. It is so awesome beautiful. Now I can control you know. I can learn my mind than say it will be changing nothing all the time of minus changing before you come to the temple. Maybe you you were thinking. Today's snowing Soco so-called can chain this schedule another day. Sometimes you you. You were thinking like that. But now you're here now. You are so excited to learn about meditation. It is changing. All the time line is changing but we need to understand nature of the mind. How is ending okay? Today we are going to learn that point two okay and Sometime people say you know. Do you have enough time to practice my meditation. Right as the kids do have enough time to practice meditation. When I was twelve years old I became a monk but at that time I didn't know about meditation. We had a very tight schedule at our temple in C- Lanka we have. We had to look up early in the morning for thirty that mutations in went on to loose but I didn't want to practice meditation. I just fell down and sleep. It was my meditation and but when I was teenager and then I understood how important is meditation is because I was so angry. Monk at that time too. I'm getting fighting with my brother. Mong deny learn something from imitation. Then I start to practice it okay. Now I'm practiced is because I got so many opportunity from meditation. Yeah sometimes we don't. We don't have enough in wisdom enough information about meditation. But Meditation is so simple and easy things you how close your eyes and also you have hope so your mind and is it boring. You can feel them and Steve. I learned that things when I was. You know a twelve years old. But when you learn more and more about meditation you can you know expedients. How valuable is it? Because as students you how to learn more more things about your subject and knew how to complete so many things this meditation so helpful to those things do okay. Today's I think you can expedience this. Awesome wonderful meditation. And if you have any questions about your practice or meditation teaching of the Buddha you can ask us of afterward. Okay now we can is And find your comfortable posture. You can change your porch any time when you get any pain then you can go to get Cha and you can change your time. Please Final compatible voice and sit comfortably. Keep your becky street as much as you can gently close your eyes gently. Bring your attention to your body note take a few loan blitz and relax your whole body relaxed your hit nick shoulders. You lift Right Tom so your taste your billy up of Up Authorized Noth rightly relaxed fingers. Relax your mind relax. Relax Relax No Miko literally smile in your face lit this loving kindness meditation myth the Bahonar. Csl Blessed Yourself Vista Yourself. May I believe me? I'd be happy. May I be peaceful? May I be bill me? I'd be happy. May I be peaceful understand the meaning of Eastwood deeply end clearly than repeated yoursel? May I believe it? May I be happy? May I be peace? May I be free from suffering? Edna's fear anxiety ENGA. Jealousy Eagle warring difficulties. May I be bill? May I be happy? May I be peaceful? May I be bill? May I be happy? Gist mind but does your mind say. Are you happy person? If not happy asking to your mind why are you not happy? Peaceful person found not peaceful. Buchen Nasty. Mind why I not peaceful find yourself. Who are you? Who are you me? I'd be happy. He May. I be peace. No imagine your family fade ans friend's husband Ovalles Children Radison sisters your good brain boyfriend of Screened also your neighbors. Kogas will close to you and listen to them me and my family be. Ville the HEPI BE PEACE MANDATE BE WILL. Hepi midday be peaceful if you have any difficult people in your life. Just imagine. Dim Cindy spiritual powerful. Lobbying does the damn might difficult people be still be happy? Be peaceful like Human Mia. We own not I picked is still in the world. All make mistake we have to practice will give us to our difficult people to bring. That band is stories to the future. Just Lit Litton go and practice pro given us to your difficult. People may diffucult People be will be happy. Be Peaceful me my family free from suffering Ilyas Feel Insight Eighty Anka Jealousy Ego. Worrying difficulties may be will be happy may be peace you can. Change opposed any time. Do you mind fully slowly now weekend. Sending this spiritual those two around the nor need to separate the people in the Muslim Christian Buddhist just Stink Viola. Human and list to team mayday be. Ville may be happy may be peaceful may be ill midday. B B media be peaceful sending loving kindness to around. It means you're try to add more now to the world. We need to add more. Allow the world because of so many things happen in the world right now. Some people are dying without food without glow without house can do anything for them now. Just we have to send despicable. Who wish us to them? May All living beings human non human also environment be will be happy. Bp's mandate be. Bill may be happy peace. Repeat this three again again bill. Happy and peaceful. No you have wonderful mind. Mind is so peaceful. Calm Stink when you're getting angry with someone at that time you how to think deeply. Yano tangled person because of your practice loving kindness. No need to burning with the people against the people menus see any weakness from team. Just be patient and practice loving kindness. Stink and keep your mind deeply. No-one fifth hooked in the world. No Megan practice breathing. Meditation Jonjo Mine Change of Polish People Lohan breads and legs. You mind again relaxed Breathing read out. Breathe Tin Mine Louis. Greed out mindfully Greeting process. Now you can see that up type of threats. Deeply in-n-out showed Ritz in breathing. Mindfully read out my family. If you cannot see your great you can focus on your billy Pissed and you can count your Brett like these breathing. One beat out one breed in to be all to be in three out three. You can count Nonni to control your greeting center. Your attention few GNAWS Dean Brady Come to your mind. Lead them common goal. Be a sky in this guy that so many clouds. Some clouds seem sly so heavy and also dark. Some some clouds look like white. Un Light. Same thing's going in mind right now. There are so many thoughts. Some thoughts savvy heavy. It could be past memories sometimes. You're thinking about Tina future plan to moral some thoughts. I realized compassion kindness. Just let them go. Focus on your natural loading regret breathing. Mine plea bree doubt mindfully Sunday stand. We can't hold our breath. He can't breathe past Britt. We can't breathe future breath. Just we have agreed present print. It means. We have to stay present moment. Enjoy this moment. No you're fine and Moody Audie Legs peace-for-land com thing. How important is to practice this meditation? It is bring to you you own. Happiness Delon's read joyfulness. Make literally smile in your face again. Please bring hands to get the in front of your heart. Make you strong determination to practice this meditation everyday. At least two minutes may be you. May ALL LIVING BEINGS BE BILL. Happy and peaceful. Thank you very much open. Your he's not going to chant a few chanting You can book Chanting it is guy in the opponent the meditation it can concentrate our mind For Stanton Equal Namo tested than would southern Jami. When you chain that things if you're uncomfortable with that you can You know you can't you. You can do anything you can just listen you. Can you know Close Your eyes and you can enter your own meditation but would symbolize our teacher. Okay when you when you read would it means Dita dumb symbolize guidelines. Sanga symbolized noble friendship. We need these three things teachers guidelines and also noble friendship. Sometimes people in a comment as Bundy if I if I don't how a data to how find a teacher that is a good good question and because teachers so important to our life. We need a teacher because we need Some guidelines to go go good way good bet and if you don't have any teacher you can set up your mind as a teacher. I tell you that there are two mines. Good mine in bed mine when you up so you're good mind. There are so many good qualities in a good mind loving kindness and you can a pleased your loving kindness as a teacher in your life. Then that loving kindness guides you good way and also if you don't have loving kindness do can set up like a compassion joyfulness equanimity whatever. Okay generosity and dumb limousine guidelines. We need guidelines. Because if you want to be good person in the World Nice person in the world you have to know about good guidelines and how do we learn good guidelines? 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Episode 58: Do Or Die

The Short Porch

54:54 min | 2 years ago

Episode 58: Do Or Die

"The. Say tied at five as go the body love this Erin, Boone, the leader, his person. Out of the game. These. To the forest, the portrait ROY. What's up what's happening. Welcome to another dish of this report of postseason edition of the short porch. I'm your host hubs alongside me on the other side of the laptop, Mike co-host. Tommy smoke stops, Kelly. What's happening? I'm nervous. How can you not be? It's the fucking postseason. We've got a one game winner, go home situation. There is nothing worse than this and the fact that the second game and we've had this long fucking seventy two hours lay off and you know, Star Wars for while it's killing me. I need. I'm getting you talk about the Sunday. Scary. I have the Tuesday scare hacking. I'm just so nervous. One game I fit. I don't. I don't wanna have dark thoughts in our head, but I hope this is in our last podcast of the season with Yenkey baseball had us right, wolves will relax but Dhamar. Nate. So after the game will record a reaction up. So they'll be Thursday morning one way or another and we'll go from there. So there will be, you know, at least something else. But I don't want this to be the last one. Reno, there's Anki tomorrow or the day after that. So what I don't want those negative thoughts only one possibly being talked. Well, I, I'm I like to have negative thoughts that way. You could help just positive things. It's better to be pleasantly surprised than disappointed for sure. We'll get right into it. We know who started was going to be, I guess you told me you told me today that that you'd said Severino. I forget what happened. You know what? Amy. So I, I. Flipflop. So many times we've been pretty sure. I mean, the listeners will know. I'm pretty sure I ended the last episode Thursday, Friday episode saying that I was on the Severino outright. Okay. Go down with your guy. I like it. So I just see Severino having that dominant start that we know he's capable of. He wants to put to rest the doubters from last year's wildcard game. He had a bad second-half. He when he's on. He's one of the best pitchers in baseball. He's definitely the best pitcher pitcher on the Anki I see him coming out throwing gas. He's got the slaughter popping. Imagining like the the start against the Cleveland last year in the AL DS in game four was fought. Owners are four. Four? Yeah, where he just had everything work. That's what I want us every no end, you know what the thing is. The other reason I like it. Lisa Marino is not going seven innings tomorrow. I know I just know from that, but he is jury confirm. Like three or four innings out of him probably and his three or he if he goes into the game with the mindset, I really like him to just turn it on completely leave it all out. Maybe was the dominant dominantly was out of the bullpen a couple years ago when he was, I think he can really just leave it all out on the line. One time to the lineup, maybe two for a few guys and he can really have a dominant open if we don't wanna use the word start right hours fries for sure. I I wanted have, but I think that was only happen if they were in Oakland, if they're in Oakland, half gets the start. Yeah, but I thought they're going Tanaka based off last year's postseason, but maybe those last two starts where he just wasn't good. You know, scared to shed a boom. I mean that committed any does seem like contrary to what you should believe that this was made by a ton of people booed at least is making it clear like this was his decision. He's gonna go down with it like like he was on the stretch garments on the ban he'd, he was very, like this e I trust seven. He's my guy like he's putting all on him. Hey, I respect that. I respect that he's, he's, I feel like they had a Dan aboard remediating in cash was like, was everyone think? And like they started off with Boone, they're like, Aaron, what do you think in an air like start separately? Oh, thanks. They put them on the head and the three that you like the other twelve people in the room. I Catherine is brain trust like actually break it down with like their power PowerPoint while like our Boone just sits there. And he loves line cookie, most likely. But I mean. Regardless. It was Boone backs. This is, I mean back decision, but he put his neck out there and he's like, this is me. I want, you know, it's gonna eat the short. He's gonna fall on the sword if you know dispose up. But it Davinder -cation game for sure. You know, it's a chance for him to just really hit the delete button. Unin tire second-half if he comes out angles three to four, which is seems like what you said is what's going to happen. The plan is the plan is really for him. Just go three or four unless he's throwing like less. You can tell like he's breathing fire out his mouth in Brian, just hanging just like, why not? But he is the plan is for him that really just go three or four innings, and if they can get, you can just give them the three and four than that's their them. We'll talk about in a little bit what the plan should be the rest of the way, but that is exactly what they want. So it, you know, it's a chance for him. If he just gives us three innings of shutout baseball, four innings of shut up as ball. He hit the delete bundled entire second half. He also says, fuck you to the wildcard game last year where he just completely blew up. I know he better. Postseason after that. But you know, people I've never gonna. Forget that kinda start that we had in that will be in everyone's mind, and they're gonna play that highlight tomorrow in the role of so anytime. So many times one hundred percent. But I, I do like when a player has a chance to prove himself proved out wrong until like two to bounce back and thick, and you know, sit right his name the way it should be. So I think I think coli brought this up today. They didn't name him starter. In this game. It was gonna break him mentally. If he's the biggest game in the world, and he was that pitcher in the first half and just because he had a bad second half, they just didn't go to him in the biggest game of the entire year. Like he would have never recovered from that mentally, like being the top dog, the alpha the bulldog. So you know, he's gotta get. You'll when your tap to be this guy, this pitcher in this huge game, like whether it's three innings, seven innings, like there's a confidence. Do you like your team? Your organization is saying, like, we trust you, we give you the ball in the biggest. The biggest moment we think you're gonna get it done, and that's awesome. So I. That's gonna help Severino for sure, would have gone different way probably. But I did also say either of these three guys, like I understand. Like I, I'm not like up in arms. I don't like, you know, I prefer to go different way, but I, I'm fine with it. Like the plan seems to be okay. Three innings or Severino gives all you can get in. It's kind of like, you know, he's a reliever again, remember how good he was reliever. He was unbelievable as earlier. So you know, he just, he knows he wants to give three innings. He can give it all. He has for those three innings and not have to worry about fitting. We aware like he's tired of seeing the order a second time. I'm convincing myself because it's myself today like, okay, this, this is what we should do. This is the way she if you lose your best Muna convinced ourselves, no matter what, though, for sure. We're crazy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But if we're gonna go down, you go down with your best guy. There's no second guessing you go down. Let's say, half got the bowl, and he gives a five runs out of absolutely nowhere. Let's say at the Tigers start all over again or Tanaka just, you know, the home run ball, find some again, you know, ES one of those starts then you like we really instantly Severino fucking in a guy who has said the other day. Yeah, I know. So you know, the guy with the best stuff I in my mind when he's at his best is one guy in the entire league as a right handed pitcher better than it's max. Scherzer is no one else might thing better right hand pitcher, no, the left hand Dalen Kershaw like those guys are better give him, but right when he's on he's on. Yeah, he's better in coober when he's on. He is. He's better than anybody besides sure. I will not discredit about, oh, we'll degrom. People just forget like grandma this grateful year at seven on that first half with a one nine five year, right? He was it was every single start was seventy. Ten ks like grams was like lower than that for. I know you're saying degrom is more consistently like, I don't know. I know what you're saying Severino has that flat his best. You have literally no chance of hitting him. Yeah, so snow I end you put, what are your thoughts on? So there are some people are saying, oh, this also is a good move because now let's you have half for two starts potentially against the Red Sox at firs what I was I, I was with you. I kinda pooh-poohed that I was like it's one game at a time. If you think half is your best option on Wednesday pitch on Wednesday, but there s kind of thinking about it. I wanted to Reno either way. But if that was at all in the ankles head like ings are here to win a World Series this year. So I, you know, the Ke's should look at the postseason as we are trying to win twelve games. Now we're trying to win one game to me. Losing to the Red Sox nail d. s. is not better than losing tomorrow or tonight whenever listening to. So I, I don't, hey. Looking at the next series in mind, I don't think it should affect her decision making in like if on a on, if during the game on Wednesday, you're, you don't wanna take del out or whatever because we gotta save 'em for as felling or whatever. If twenty two, you know what I mean? So there are circumstances where you don't wanna look too far ahead, but I don't hate the idea of look retrying win a World Series when I try to win one playoff game. So let's take the necessary steps for that. I will say I, you took a long way you took a long time to get to your point where I, I understood immediately. We're trying to set if you could map out a plan to beat the Boston Red Sox and to advance the World Series. Like in a perfect world, it is severing of starting this game in pitching well, because that means he's gonna start at home against the Red Sox rather than at Fenway. Were you, you know, there's a better chance. He is a much better pitcher at home. He's a waiter is erased below three on the your home and think on the road, it's either high threes or low for that believes high. Threes. So in a perfect world. Yeah. And you want have pitching two games against the Red Sox and pitching potential game for game five. You know, you want Tanaka while Tanaka might be. I not at home. We're looking to head, but I see that game to start, but I in a perfect world. We're not looking ahead here, but I'm perfect world. Severino would be that guy to start Wednesday because he's a better pitcher at home. You want him getting as many home starts as possible against the Red Sox. So yeah, I hate to. We're not looking ahead. I'm just saying like when you map it out. Yeah, you want your best pitcher pitching in the most important game, and then you want to continue pitching at home. So that makes it makes sense that way when you met with that, so you know, what is your? Do you see him going three innings? What is the leash and also in the first inning, how many hits would it take to get the bullpen warming. I think three base runners the bullpens warming. So last year it was to run, they believe in three hits and they end and that was enough to get everyone up. Yeah, I, I mean, if he if he if the first two guys get on convincing fashion, I think someone starts to stretch, but I think overall three people get on with the loading the bases, or you know, two guys on runner. He comes across the plate. I think that's when you start the the bullpen starring. But at the same time you can't. You don't want to have that mindset totally. Like when he's out there is just, no, someone's breathing down your neck. Thank you. I think he knows that. That's I think he knows that. I think you go out. I mean, he literally all last year and saw it last year by think you go out there and you just tell Severino you're starting today, and he gave a quote and saying, I will. I'm here to win this baseball game. I don't care if it's four innings or not. He said that he knows. This, and obviously he knows the plan like, because if you're told you're starting the game and you, you know a normal start, six or seven innings. You're not going like full speed ahead in the second third inning. Probably you know the first thing short, but if you know you able, you got the ball for nine outs, maybe twelve like you are emptying tank in those ninety has different. You also gotta take. I mean the Severino everyone Anki shouldn't go into tomorrow thinking we only want him for three or four innings if he's out there and he's electric, treat like a normal star on. He knows that it's right. Yeah. Also, I think it's, I think you just gotta look at it as a normal start with just a away shorter. Leash. Yeah. But I will say also knowing that you probably gonna have this short leaf unless you're just like in, you know, bully mode. As a pitcher you like to not reveal all of your pitches in the first time around this allows him to do that. Like if you ask a pitcher, ideally, a fastball pitcher, primarily they love to get through that first the first time through the order with primarily their fastball changeup, not use the breaking ball pitches. So this will asked every he's all there. You know, he doesn't care about seeing in the second around. He in Rowley, doesn't eve nine up nine down and he says, well, who's bullpen? So my next question now I guess we'll go through the roster and then we'll go through the bulletin plant. So one more interesting things were carrying three catchers. Higashio is on the roster along with Gary starting casting. And we all knew that was going to happen, said that for weeks and reminds the backup. Three catchers to me means that by the sixth or seventh inning, Gary's out of the game room is catching. What do you think about? I think it depends. I think if the inky are winning, he comes out of the game if they're losing. I think he stays in for his bat. I think that I think the moment you start to hear the name down Vitanza warming up. That means Gary's out of the game. Maybe. But I mean if they're down one run their down to runs and Gary has a an at bat coming up. It's gonna be really hard to justify pulling just because of that. I know it was awful air, but just because of that one swing mentality. I think if the ink is our winning four, three in Dallas coming in than, you know, you're focused on run prevention. I think it's if the keys are losing and they're focused on run-scoring. I think Gary stays inequity in. But I do like hiring three catches because it's one game. You don't need thirteen pitchers, and it makes sense to never have game goes nineteen innings. If someone gets hurt or whatever, you'd rather great good to have the insurance. I will elaborate on this Lynn a little bit in the show, but I think the x. factor of the game the entire game. All fifty players on Meech Rosser is Gary Sanchez. He's able to catch the ball girl. The running game end hit the Yankees. Chances of winning escalate ambitiously. If he's the Gary centers of of, you know where we got a few on your walls and fucking he's out with men on third, not moving the runner, all the shit that that I think if that's happens, the Yankees have zero chance to win this game. He can. She, he has so much power in what he does tomorrow on Wednesday night. He is so much power. I think at all a lot of game relies on him. Each show important. I agree. He it, he will be the most important player. He can come out. He could have Hugh chits. He could. Hit the ball Venus, four hundred fifty jobs, or he could like Ainhoa Oakland Severino. Does nappy able to catch a ball hit into double, play, strike out and do think he's at all on a shorter lease like Severino's. Like if Sanchez has two three passed balls or while pitches that he should stop in the first inning I leading, you just gets taken out. I think that's why romance here. And that's why show. 'cause I think that's certainly on the table. I also say, like we said, Severino, this is vindication game for him. I think it's equally vindication for Gary Sanchez, that guidance ball, fucking Saturn. I don't give a hell. You can just hit the delete bundles entire twenty eight season. It's all fine it. He is hormone and catches a good game tomorrow night. It admired Wednesday night. It all goes away. This game can change everything for those two guys. It is so big, any knows. And I like guy with a back against his wall and with a heart. Yeah, with his back. I don't know why I didn't say that. But when his back against the wall. Like, hey, like I have a chance here. If I fucking his lock in to prove prove everyone wrong, Getty bomb aside, I love that love that's Jewish for the rest of the Roger. We think this is the roster we engine dot com. Hip find anywhere else may think edgy as you'd come like, you know, had an article about it. We're going ten pitchers. Fifteen position players if come, I saw had it as the projected roster for the team wasn't a same. Yes. Okay. All right. So we're, we swish this is what it's going to be and it. It didn't make sense for the most part, decide from like one on one player on the bench will be Gardner hetch Averia Higashi yoga, remind Tyler, Wade, Walker, I think that's pretty much what we predicted. And then pitches will be Delon, Britain, Chapman, green hap- holder Lin the rub sevi- Masahiro Tanaka. So I guess the surprises with at Lynn is on the roster. Don't that landslides all arrester. Lynn is on the roster and I guess that would let us. Yeah, we so AJ coal knowedge ical, which is tastic. No, thank God. I mean gun your head landlord coal, each us, Lance Lynn. I mean landslides there. The gang goes like extra, but I would have rather used that spot on like CC or Arkley. Right? So that's the biggest problem for me is not having Tarpley I or you know, Canley out here either, but. I understand that because he wasn't that good. Even when he came back, it is crazy thing about how important he was last Jorn relent for game to be told through without the plants that he wouldn't be on the roster series. Crazy. Stunning crazy. I mean, same bird though. He had a, he had a good postseason. He told me like it's crazy, but thank God. No bird. No sunny, no, AG Cole. No, Canley no, CC no Tarpley I think the biggest not mistake, but surprise to me was Tarpley being there. It does look like they do advanced hardly his on the AL DS roster because his locker, I think they said was made, you know, you know, it's there. So I saw a new new locker. I don't know. I think you just want another lefty out there besides Chapman, the comment. I mean, yeah, maybe it's the thing that he just joined the team in September and he's a righteous, they can handle it. In what let's NC like I in. What scenario are you do you feel comfortable putting Lance Lynn, the game. Game. The thirteen minute. Well, no, not helpful, but like I assume also guys are gonna use the right, bring me see. Yeah, no, but whatever I, it's not the, let's just hope he doesn't get see can't last time we don't wanna see looking at this and I mean we'll go into, you know, more game prediction, whatever. I guess everything in the show, but my biggest concern for this game, one of my biggest, my biggest worry for the this season. This postseason why I'm not super confident they are capable of winning. The World Series is because of the ball. I just do not have nearly the same faith in this year's bullpen as I did last year, Chad, greens, not as dominant as you us last year. David Robertson is definitely not worse. Batanes isn't Chapman or both. A great when they're on, but I, I don't care how good they are. What good streaks. I will never have a hundred percent confidence in other. Whether Delon Delon specifically. Yes, especially in a playoff game. It takes one wild pitch. I'm back on, like I mean, it's such a roller coaster with them other fucker. But like I have no confidence when that guy comes in, but I never like I, it does. If he was in, you know, the shriek over the summer who's in the midst of that right now, if he hadn't allowed to run in like thirty innings, I still wanna feel great with him coming in the game tonight just because he is just at type of pitcher Chapman is kinda similar and then no holders on a guy feel great about Cain. Lee is not on the roster. He was someone new really felt confident development. Just allowed worse. Like last year you add you, the look would look forward to handing the ball over the bullpen bullpen game in the wild card game. You knew that that was fine because you trust ever guy out there. I do not have the same feeling this year and that's what worries me. Yeah. I will say, fan graphs, released a whole article today breaking down. Sara metrics and everything every team, you know, who has the best playoff team. Yankees number one Yankees had or the best bullpen rating. And you know, who has one of the worst was Oakland a.'s even though you would look at their numbers and you say, no way they gave us a nine and believe, and they gave them a four on their scale of like, wins wins that the bullpen provides. The me that like bullpen analytics are bullpen is for me such a gut thing, lay. I like the analytics and stuff, but to me bullpen is all about who you trust. You don't trust. It's like the eye test. And right now I don't have a ton of trust me. How nervous are you for Boone's bullpen decisions. I'm not Dan. You think there's a plan? I, I think there's a supplement like there's probably doray door be Dorsey, but I think they're all pretty much later. I like there's no AJ coal for him to us, so it's not gonna be I, I can't imagine doing anything to. I can't imagine him. Bring Lance Lynn into close the game. Anything that's completely outrageous. Let's do before we get into what we think our plan is gonna be. Let's do a bullpen trust right now. Ranking was who was the guy trust the most to the least will not in that include New England right. At assume he's just that the bottom. Let's not include never know. Severing Omarosa either obviously. Yeah. Yeah. Sixth for me is holder. Is there six or seven? I have seven here. Okay. Sixer happened this six, sixes whole really holder. I at six. Just expand. I mean, this is a and forth with this folk. Like I've always been a little lower on hold their than just Robertson. I don't know, you're telling me I gotta get three outside, rather I know Robertson is struggled, but you sly unbelievable last year in the playoffs. Like I just have he as more experienced, I would trust them more high leverage situations. I don't the numbers in front of members. Seeing holder had one of the best areas on the team in higher leverage situations. Holder has more respect for me than that. I have. Robert Robertson is just so shaky my opinion. I Robertson fifths though to come to our own. Okay. I think I have. I think I have galaxies. Really, I have no faith in that guy right now. I just don't. I just like, especially if GARRETT'S catching resume, he's not gonna be catching him, but that guy, let's up walk. And then so let's say. The as are quick. They got, they got all pretty much most guys can run. They don't run a lot, but they have the ability run. So if Dell and walks a leadoff guy and you got Gary catching well, this probably me pass ball or wild pitch. He got roll. Mine is probably stolen base because down. So fucking slow, play enrollment can throw guy out the save his life. So if that situation we're dealing with, I don't trust tell him. I mean, we're going to see him and you know what the numbers Giora a great in the second half and all that. He went to cyber mode. I think of late. He since he went to the coach's role in came back, it fuck with has been the same. He's each side appearances. Quite a few were gives up runs. And let's remember how he wasn't Lester. Yes, yeah, I did forget about that while. Come, why don't have him? Fifth, I still have Robertson v. Okay. Who you have fourth, fourth ongoing robbers. You're putting down in fifth. Okay. Yeah, talent. Fifth holder will go. Holder. It's Haller Chapman here. I would go. What is is that my think yours at the TV on Sturt disturbed me on music be out here though. I'm gonna go. Shatman. I can't go home with that. Hi, I'm gonna go holder for. I'm so torn here. I, this is where you're almost talked me off the Batanes ledge. Hits. Liane Tober. Yeah, you just reminds me last year. Four. Clumps going through my head row quick. At any. I'm gonna go Chapman for. Okay. I, I was close animals made him. I'm almost made him four, but I'm gonna hold her for other tents. This three coming this as a potential, like one maybe, but. I don't trust anyone like there's no one I feel well, yeah. All right. I'm going Chatanooga or it's his three, jeez, my threes chatman. I think he's, I think he's going to be slaughtered dependent and his lawyers very winning throws it. I don't know what the fast was. Gonna look like all we could be ninety. Six Chapman. One one. I gotta say if he comes out both those three, I'm gonna fucking shit myself. Oh my God. He's back. Let's go. I haven't gotten chiming even when Chapman is on you don't. He's never got. He doesn't have that Mary on a like, you know, confidence, nobody does, but doesn't get hit part. It's when he wants billion. People does art. Just throw strikes slide of restraint, Frank, one cider go from there. So we can. Three, my number two d. rob, right? This idea of Britain. Number one selling. I had ler Adleman. And then why. One, anyone and chattering hiring was one to six, this Greenland, Britain Chapman. Green was Oskar horribly heads Semper. October is a hell. So now we start seasons asked him, but he sorts. Announced that he just couldn't throw a curve. No Britain's Bing. He's been awesome. September, I know doesn't get anyone out or traveling last year. Maybe it wasn't even. So I learned. Oh, it wasn't around one. Nothing going was not a nerd GRA. Okay. Not they. Britney one their free. So it's. Started kansas. It is or lever. It was. Has one world circa will still muck. It was nine years ago. I'm going to do it. Let's say they have. Let's see what is for me Britain. How many these they stack up usually in the lineup, I don't think it's even on the. I mean I could be on gets on. I don't think even in consideration with the first guy, I think, yes, I think I think the reason easier. Let's see. Oakland's. MARTINI is a lefty. So he's Chapman is a righty, right. Okay. That's Larry switch yet. Larry's switch hitter. Olson's a lefty. Honor eighty Laurie on a righty. Simians a righty and readies. Okay. Maybe maybe I'm a little wrong. I know. I know Chris Davis does not hit left these well for whatever reason. Yeah, I think tried green. I think in ideal world Luis Severino gets you through four innings one road. Okay. Shined green comes in for Chad green Zach. Britton gets you through five through seven in some capacity using bring comes in early. You think Chapman has not had experienced pitching lately. He's going seven minute, you think Chapman's the closer I was thinking is you you disagree? I think Britain's closer. At a now. I mean, it's, are we going off of? I just think when I think the closer I think Chapman. I also the thing is I trust Britain, Fenton. I trust Britain more makes rather have getting a game sooner. I don't wanna have to save him for nothing. Okay. It all depends on game situation, but like a one run game. Yeah, I guess maybe maybe. Yeah, because the new wave of baseball's like don't have set inning seventh-inning, eighth inning, ninth inning guys like your best guys and then figure it out from their scores. My runs you can while. Yeah. All right. So we're going with that ensure which is why. For my thirst guys. Okay. So let's say some three or four than Breen grit that gets you the seventh than ago. What d- rob Delon Chapman. Why was in an ideal world? I don't even have to Europe. I was thinking I was green Britain in dall- in for some capacity, a five through eight green, the first guy. And then if you'd rather go Dell Britain, Britain or Delon, whatever through eight Chapman, hopefully coz it after you in the night, I just don't sleep on half warming up at some point. I could see it. I don't know why you have Robertson you have hold or they are for any holes along the way. Hap-. I guess if you're a nurse school thought. Will you be drinking during this team. What do you do for these big? I'm going to the game. I'm drink water. I'm just I'm going to land at your. I was there forever game. I was working for the Fordham radio station WSB, press box. It was. It was like, honestly, looking back, I'm so like nostalgic for last year like that. That's the best experiences like being in the building for five games and they won all five on the place was rocking Lincoln. Unbelievable view. Food was as it was just unbelievable. I never, I never know playoff game. I, I mean, I've been to those. I'd been to a few others but added had much seen many wins last year. I saw all wins. So that was all I will not be at this year. I don't plan on. I plan on basically my growing up. Through like twenty twelve didn't make the class after that is I'd be. I basically my dad's sit in the basement. We have the lights off, except for one Yankee lamp gives a kind of a dim light in the room. I have stress fall in the basement watching like on the TV I am not someone who I know if I'm, you know, I don't wanna be there in like a crowd. I don't wanna be a watch party hoping through anything like barstool. I just wanna be home in my basement. Just like being able to yell, whatever. It's, it's like a job almost like watching the Yankee playoff game, like a job. It's not a fun experience. I'm words I'm, oh, it's like it's so stressful. I just want to be in the confines on my own hope. I mean, I want me to seven circle of hell only amongst my people, but I'm going to be with Jared Karavas in Dallas Brady. Yeah, that sounds still awful. So awful. But, hey, that's fucking like even to me like winning like you getting to brag or whatever winning is not nearly as bad as it is. If you lose, I'm I'm just mentally exhausted. If they win. Like I'm this going to be so Austin, it's going to be hall, and I can't even sleep in the city because I have to come home and this is looking way to head. I hate them. You say this, but I'd have come home at night because the pack for Boston on Thursday, delete Thursday night. Yeah, I be leaving for Boston AM again, we'd only to far ahead of ourselves, but I'm going to be like on the ring basically ruffling rowdy doing social stuff Friday night, national able to watch, which makes me so mad than able to watch it will be followed will be able to follow it, then get the rest the, but let's hope we have to work. Let's talk about that Wednesday. Yeah. Who? Oh, so. Okay. Who would be your unsung hero? Who are people not talking about? Maybe not expecting that you think could be like, holy, fuck where this guy come from. I got one in mind. I'm going to say, well, I don't. I mean, don't really have anyone like these have like a word. He come from like unsung hero also way to word. It just unexpected hero under the radar who I think could have a really big impact on the game. I'll say Aaron Hicks, I think with defenses, big UTM, throwing somebody out and against lefty SR against righties, at least he's going to be hitting. Lefties, always got shot to go deep. It's still a bag or whatever. I could see him just having a real solid game me. So the big mccutchen was my other guy, but I'm going with x. Then Gary Sanchez is going to hit all, but he doesn't count like I wasn't expecting to do anything one. We wanted him benched to ago. I think he's gonna hit home run. I like the way he finished the year. Yeah, I think he could I. I wasn't considering him as part of that category, but I would fucking be awesome. Fucking lawns. Win the second. I wanna talk why we should actually be scared of the so real quick. They're gonna bullpen us. Now, the good thing is we kind of the race we've experienced this so much. We know bullpen game feels like it's not like this new for us like we have so much and the as try the bullpen us in Oakland that we actually won that game. That was game. What? So the same. The scariest part here I read that. Lake trying to could potentially three innings in his baseball game. Do you know what blades front Sierra is on the year? Believe it's your point seven nine that zero point seventy in sixty eight games in eighty point. One innings. The man is a point seven eight year that guy has has pitched Brayden Graydon told me today. He's eighteen times Mullings and he's actually gone three innings in a game. When they went to extras, he is a monster and that guy that they're going to try to go try to intervene like for like four or five inch combine, which is so scary. They have to score. The Yankees will have to score quick. They have to. They have to gradually I, they fall behind this. I will be a train wreck the you tell me fucking they after if they're John one, nothing or two one in the seventh. Inning got Blake running amount with like nine ounce in his hand to send the as they Elliot's. I'm freak out forget yeah, I I'm like, I think about today. The I I most scared I think on. I'm afraid. Thanks. We won't be able to. They'll just come out flat and you're more hitting the vision. I don't know. I mean in in most playoff mode, yes. You're always more scared that you're able to get hits, but I am a little bit skit. I, I don't know. I'm scared. He's lead all baseball. All the playoff teams in Rhode hits, home runs and slugging percentage Enrons. I don't like to hear that. I don't like to hear that all I. I don't. I I'm afraid of the the pulpit thing with the rays. Don't have like Blake Trine in whatever. Like he's been awesome, but he doesn't instill like a fear in me is like he's under other sensually a bowling ball. You can't elevate. Again, riggings right side, but I don't. I don't know there's, I was like, looking at their their setup today and innings one through five. But he's Liam. Sorry, lean kendricks is not like until Andrews. I say kendricks tender, never is not. Like unhittable says he's become an opener in September. He's only given a run once it was this first time doing it since then. He's got like thirteen openers didn't give borough including its Yankees pitch the perfect in it. I know, but he's I was looking. His game is still a little bit over four. I'm not. There's nobody in I was looking. They're saying that it could be Rodney in the six million. The seventh, I, I will eat them. I welcome wrong. Rodney does not scare me Sean Kelly's Sean Kelly to gimme Sean Kelly, gimme Sean, Kelly, familias still is that stench on him? The Mets stench on him. There is not. I am trying to tear them. I think the rest are beatable, Evan Roberts at the same thing on the Faneuil he's, I mean, they talk about this bullpen and they do have the numbers. But like when you look at it like you can beat these guys, especially when we talk. About like, yeah, they've as booklet how the Antes Lana haven't won. I got a cutting leading off in Aaron judge and then degrades Giancarlo, STAN and Luke voi-, and looking and Harr, and then glaze over and then Gary. And then. I don't know from forgetting anyone Hicks. Did I say, I don't know ill. It didn't say that's nine, unbelievable hitters. I do not wanna face like they, we can talk with the bullpen, but you talk about any point in our lineup like, oh shit, you're comes these guys wanna we got, oh, these fucking guys like it is not easy. You can never take breath lower line, and I love the way we finish the year, the games against Boston, the games against Tampa. They fed offense, exploded when they had the full lineup. There have like seven runs for game. One game judging the line it like one or two games. I. The thing with bullpen to me is if everyone is on, it's pretty devastating because then you're you're facing six guys, whatever that you're as in the twos, the ones zeros and training space, but bullpen just takes one or two guys to be off relievers. Are there good most of the time, but relievers have bad outs like you're lying on, you know, sick. You want every guy you bring in to have it and just the typically speaking, the odds are the probably a couple of them are going to be off, and that's what would scare me if I was doing a bullpen game. That's what does excite me as a Yankee fan there are. Yeah. Could they all be on just don't touch anyone facing a closer for nine straight innings. Yeah, that could happen. But I also liked the chances of someone one or two of these guys that is not having a naked take advantage. I will say it's very funny how how this game is gonna go and watching right now. Dubs Rockies and both pits will starting pitchers in the game in the in the sixth inning. And it's a one, nothing game and free. Linda's dominating Leicester's dominating like it just couldn't be more opposite game to what's gonna be Wednesday night. Volition Mejia's. I love you to watch his game with just not a care in the world right now. There's no tomorrow night. We're going to be dying on every single second. You love that. I don't know that I love. I'm saying, I love being able to watch this game without any more. Yeah, I'm the Rockies together, but. Okay. So let's go. I have. I knew Matt Hollywood hitting bisque for them. No thought he had seven was a fifth will what I knew he was like a key cog in they're using. I didn't know he's gonna hit. I know he's gonna start this game. I knew there like signed him late in the season. I thought that was like glorifies. They might just be a veteran leader. Yeah, we'll see amount. It was like in the mill up in a one game playoff and he's playing the field. Well, you have to the Natalie, but like left field. He could still do that primarily the h. for us. I love the holiday though. Okay. Let's cook with some DM's. Some of these questions that had left, oh, one more. What can happen have like what would be like hold by God this disaster? I guess the answer Severino just not escape in the first inning, right? Pretty much just the pitching just napping. Just getting the worst of all your pitchers basically or getting the worst of even like two or three pitchers railing like being able to get having second third one out and up to get a running. That's gonna that is first organ that happened. Nobody out they're gonna get one wrong. The or no runs that will happen that will drive me up the wall. DM's be on the show. I hear from Chadwick drinking plans for the game, either get drunk before the game. You can black it for down big or only drink during celebrations or drowned sorrows to also risked not blocking at it for winning. I don't. I'm not. I mean, I don't like drinking alter the game. Drink big inky game, not even. It's like it's, we did our job. It's onto the next one. Well, I think he's just thought, well, guess specifically for the Walker. Sure. I won't be celebrate Ori drinking. If we were in the World Series, Elliott, right? Different story series. I'm going to die because I'm never gonna, stop drinking. Just from what Tara we did the last show, but they just vanished is very weird. So this was one of the like that. I think we answered what Tara says, hey, hubs. Shubra shares Yankee fans has last porch. Didn't have any damage to redo the same question. If you could have anyone from the own nine championship seem to be playing in this game in exchange for Aaron, judge, who would you do it? And if so, who would be we both have the same answer it's out triggers from, oh, nine. I mean, I wanna it forgetting pl- if we know we're gonna play off version of him that it's an O'Brien, your won the World Series, Aaron, judge. I love Aaron judge, but Aaron judge's ceiling is is that and we know we're getting. Let me ask you a interesting question here. Let's say dis fully healthy who'd you rather own nine jeeter DD right now fully healthy. Cheater, you gotta go jeeter. He's jeeter eater Window World series. The jeeter jeeter puts the team in the right mode getting into this game. Like he also we win the division jeeter because he wouldn't let what happened happened. Juice. The that's correct said, what do you see the Yankees? Breakout scoring. Their first run or runs do seem scoring her threats thinning. I think it's the first any. I am not scared of Hendrix. I see the second, especially the bringing Sean Kelly. I will say it's important to score. I don't if they don't score really and then you're relying on just, you know, the pitching to keep it where it is. I don't like that love with the Rockies right now. They gave a run in two batters. I was texting my friend said this. I mean it. You imagine seventy a run in the first three batters. Oh my God, sprints of the Beulah next Davidson Tanna how short of a leash. Okay. We answered that the Yankees will win the wild card game. If fill in the blank, they score more runs in the as urine Astle. If let's do this, how many runs take the win that when this game. I would. I would like five. That's what I had my head five, five win this game. This is what I hope Mike. My cave says should be more. We kind of answered this, but should we be more worried about pitching or offense tomorrow. So you got to be pitching. It's got a pitch. I've gone back and forth, but you gotta be concerned with the starter that it has to be pitching. Yeah, Severna can set the table that will do wonders team. Is this holiday up there. Don't. I think you're headed so say anything? Okay, I- faster. TV good question here. Not real out. And I think these answer Kevin should Boone be fired. If we lose this game a hate. This question is talking about losing. But question be asked modo they one hundred games. They had a ton of injuries. He did a good job a role. He has her shaky bullpen shit in the first half, but figured out amidst growing pains ever since. Like he got down and got jetted like that. Like I was kind of a boon guy. I feel nothing should actual, but like he's talking fired. If we was this game agreed. He was average. I mean, there are a lot of moments that we look back on as I can't believe this can't believe you did that better as a season went on. Yeah, it was. He's not getting fired. Larry Rotschild a guy at the road. I would agree and maybe Marcus to that hit or hitting approach the bases loaded is what's the mood everytime never trying to just get. The little single had enough of both hitting antigen coaches. I always go. I think a pitching coach matters more than the hidden coach foot air there. I, I want Rothschild gone. I don't particularly care the right about Tim's migrants. Last question who'd he hot take for who comes in the clutch who comes up in the clutch tomorrow when you need it most. He said, Higashi yoga. I mean, if gosh, Ohka find his way into this game once. I mean, that's like seventeen thinning. Got hookah better. Not getting at bat yelich. He's, he's in a game. Like I'm going to. Although he does only home runs true, but no, I'm going to who Strauss that. Who I want. Sorry. Who you want up in the clutch tomorrow we need. Yeah. I got an answer for you. Look what. The getting what works is such good at bats. I won't look every them really cutting professional. A, you're gonna. Get professional back boy is like, I love void, but he's in the bottom half a guys. I walked up. I love obsessed with. I probably want Jews noisy and have a good app. I'm gonna video from starting nine Dallas, Jared. Voight hits a home run. It'll be funny, fun video tweet out immediately. I haven't saved and queued up because Dallas basically just hushed him off. Interest him away was just, you know, we'll, we'll just we will. We will bullet. We will plan for Luke wait mule. We will an element and it's got crop saying where always come from. I go misery fucking media. All right. So that's a flea. We still a little bit of confidence in you. What are Severino earlier, like was good. I, I'm walking away from this more confident than setting into it for sure, especially when you list the as guys out there like all those guys, I think fires want find his way in this game for a few innings. Yeah, I think he's had a few decent star since the Yankees lately. I think his lawn is luck is out. I think if he is staying gets a crack at him ball, my head off the fucking scoreboard. Mccutchen kills them. Staying kills him. Oh, do you wanna say, fuck you to everybody who didn't like that hype video? I made I. I've never made a video before I have no ending skills whatsoever. I made that four in the morning and I think I did a pretty good job. Sure. Maybe like the as part was little too long, but like if you want that video to be all good, like you're just lying yourself throughout what the season went through. Like we didn't win the division like people count us out a tough year, you know? And then we'll fucking, you know, you're still magic one hundred. I'm just like I was thinking of KFC or some met fan, less thing. It was a tough one hundred games. Our like, oh man, it was a tough air really over quite a lot of diversity and get that one along. Everyone counting us out one one hundred. It's great to be. It's fun, but we need the win Wednesday. Otherwise I'm gonna fucking kill myself. I'm gonna finally by, I'm gonna like just Google wears nearest bridge. Just jump off. But fuck you didn't like the video. Got five thousand legs in like two thousand retweets. So like of the hundred people commented and people. Oh, people like video was basically a bar. So we're like a hundred people comment saying the worst person on earth in worse writer, and then fifty thousand people read it. So fuck you. Fuck you. Blown away that you made it I did text was, I think at the end it would've been cool to have highlights with like music and stuff, but I still thought it was cool. Got me hyped up. Yeah, I thought about making a seven. The best type you I've ever seen was, I hope so it was at it was played. I ask you this. I don't know if you saw, but at the stadium last year, like before the game, just for the game, they played this unbelievable hype. Video of highlights for the year was set to. It's called tequila sunrise just like this, like trapping it got me so fired up. Hope they do something tomorrow. Hope they show it. I hope so too. I would imagine they would imagine as hype on on the stadium if you're there. Hopefully there's a watch party also on thirty thirty between park and Madison in New York City. At the Ainsworth is four dollars domestic beers. Six dollar wells, five dollar pinch shots. They they like to just give way shots that place. They're very good people on a lot going. If you you go there, it's in the back, lest they got a whole area reserved for us game sound throughout. It's a lot of fun to thirty third streets in Murray hill between park and Madison think Frankie Borelli is going to be there. A few other people think guns is in the guy. Twitter's gonna be there. I love to, but I gotta work. I gotta be at the game. Sorry. I gotta go to this game. It's actually pretty cool. I real- I like kinda stop myself like, wow, you're getting paid like go to fucking Yankee playoff game, but that's fucking great. It's. It's not that bad. Yes, we have the best seeds, I think were three sixteen were like upper, not. That's very good seat. Yes, it's upper deck. It's behind the Yankee dugout like third level. So it's pretty good. I have seen tickets in three. Seventeen was awesome. So three sixteen is good too. Yeah, we have the option of sitting in right field the second level, and we the option of sitting lowest level like right by the foul pole, like not in the not in the homerun stand like foul territory. I like that. You can't see strikes. Really. You can see the strikes from light. We're gonna sit. So I want that should be fine if you're there see there and go watch party for not a good time, and we will see you back here. To Thursday morning Wednesday. Whenever we can get this out, hopefully we're celebrating, hopefully you know, we're in a great mood and it'll be a fun episode. It is. If we're talking about funeral, it's gonna suck. But let's go, let's go, let's go, Gary Sanchez. Let's go. 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Lance and Rocky with Dan Clasgens 11/5/20

Lance McAlister

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Lance and Rocky with Dan Clasgens 11/5/20

"Hey lance mcalister here. I'd like to thank phillips. Jewelers for sponsoring the podcast. Richter and phillips has the largest in shop collection of loose diamonds in the tri-state. That's a big deal because most places need to order a lot of jewelers request of posits to view diamonds. Which is a big red flag trapping you into purchasing one of the diamonds. They ordered instead of allowing you to view a wider range of diamonds. And here's a tip for you right. Now if you visit richterphillips dot com slash lance. You'll get a fifty percent off code again. Visit richterphillips dot com slash lance for fifty percent off all right. Thanks rock Let's transition to our next guest. He's been kind enough to audible is with us and Move his segment from our normal seven. Twenty two now and very much appreciate that because we need our fantasy football fix We turn to this man each week. For get sports info dot com. That would be day in classrooms. How are you fired up. Hired up man Halfway point of the fantasy so with that in mind let's get to the story lines. Is we hit week nine. Yeah well as usual. We're starting with covid. Nineteen concern and Actually we're really lucky to have this game going on tonight. The forty niners about trams left tackle several wide receiver. then this game Kendrick bourne to one actually tested positive for covid nineteen all those close contacts and that was after they lost jimmy. Garoppolo and george kittle. We'll get to those guys in a minute but We're still tracking situations for this weekend refused to detroit indianapolis matthew stafford among the players out there in jeopardy elsewhere though some good games this week i'm looking forward to the seahawks and bills really fired up A fun fantasy pranzi there antonio brown his champion debut and I've talked to a couple of guys down there that i have on my show Frequently cover the team and they're all in the way looked So it's gonna be interesting. I look at him as a wide receiver three very high ceiling very low glory. You know so. We'll wait and see there. And then we're watching that. Bill's backfield where rookie We're definitely seeing a changing of the garbage. Zack moss the rookie. I think he's gonna be the guy in the second half of the season it's gonna maybe win some owners fantasy leagues take over this. Bill's backfield interesting. What about injuries. This week dan where we got. Well not too we tonight. The big news is rocky and good news for fantasy owners. Well sorta and that is aaron. Jones is active for tonight's game the packers or Already missing a couple cova nineteen running backs there but jamaal williams and aj delon out. Joe jones will play reportedly by many outlets on a snap. Count so inter at your own risk. I've got it plugged in at. Rb twenty four back. End rb to on my sheets. And i my favorite back in the game actually jamaica gracie who will start for the niners who pretty much like them and jerick mckinnon. Everybody else's hurt but elsewhere for sunday. The couple of big names on the andrew report christian. Mccaffrey eagles prime to return from the i. R. with that ankle. Issue care like that. There's other ansel chiefs big thing. Had his fantasy day. Michael thomas finally might play for the that big shootout with the bucks not feeling good for calvin ridley practice. Gym kenny golladay. He might be multiple week. So that quarterback the big injury gardner minshew who following that dumb issue. He's out rookie. Oregon's take jake lieutenant. These your six round picks out of the pack twelve. This was a year ago. So that's gonna to be interesting and then the running back always big news myles gaskin asleep a real jamming fantasy waiver wire this year. He's out for three weeks. At least on. I are kenyan drake. I don't think he's playing this week. Chase edmonds another league winner. Going get started their mark. Ingram likely out game with an ankle issue. Jk dobbins don't love the matchup versus the goals. And we'll keep our chris carson. Josh jacobs zeke. Elliot all adm deputy of being limited or out this week. We'll be watching practice practice report. We always wrap it up with lineup advice who we starting. Who are we sitting mentioned lance I'm really looking forward to watching seattle buffalo. I think it's going to be the highest scoring game of the week and josh allen. Qb four on the season but just fifteenth-ranked quarterback every last three weeks. Just two passing touchdowns one rushing touchdown. That's banned he'd get back on track in an russell wilson going up big this week and I love gaming. Alan justin herbert. It is really looked. The part against the raiders there. I think he's going to get eight to ten targets. I've got projected to be top five receiver and then on the list. I talked about the that. Baltimore in india matchup. Jonathan taylor their rookie thought he was going to be primed for big. Thanks having given the workload. That takes this week's matchup against the ravens favorable. He's a flex play bad. I'm really not liking. Any of the giants iverson variously probably the most overrated of the bunch. Drop match up here against this. Can't be also off my radar this week. Even the wide receiver three dan. What our listeners. Fantasy football players gonna find and get sports info dot com definitely. Go check out. My ranking literally just updated The situation with all. Tonight's news there and i didn't even get into the san francisco tight end like they want to check out our study. My podcast and of course. You can always giving up on twitter at dan class. Excellent heo. I appreciate you being flexible with us tonight. Thank you enjoy. The rest sounds good. Thanks dan dan. Class gets get sports. Info dot com. Yes oh oh you were just driving like pondering look on your things going on in my head. I thought you like. We're going to a point to be made and then it turned from point to a hand resting under your chance to be fair. I did yells. Pac twelve new. Do that now at the next as you want to make his for another break hockey. I've glad it's the furniture fair at river. Sportsbook roundtable show seven hundred. W l w mcallister here. I'd like to thank richter and phillips jewelers for sponsoring the podcast recruiter and phillips has the largest in shop collection of loose diamonds in the tri-state. That's a big deal because most places need to order 'em in lot of jewelers request of posits view diamonds which is a big red flag trapping you into purchasing one of the diamonds. They ordered instead of allowing you to view a wider range of diamonds. And here's a tip for you right. Now if you visit richterphillips dot com slash lance. You'll get a fifty percent off code again. 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