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54 : GDPR and Data Management with Tech Expert David Clarke GDPR + Data Management with Data Protection Expert David Clarke Episode 54
"Welcome to the Bill business acumen podcast where we deliver practical, knowledge and powerful guidance. Here's your futuristic host Nathaniel Skoula. Today's episode. I'm actually interviewing someone who David clock, and he is a GDP ill data protection, so security expert, and the founder of GDP all technology group. David is operated across footsie one hundreds estimates and startups within loss lots of different industries and very interesting conversation where we talk about data management. Privacy, all the key topics that. Anyone living in today's Sauti made think about especially if you've got kids misses a radio input episode. Well, thanks for joining me. David. Thank you play should obey. So I know people probably sickly was GDP all, but you know, that something that you've actually specialized in I think people would love to hear. But more bouncing really 'cause you've been so the focusing around the area for the parcel few years and a background in cyber security, and I think people still kinda behind on with GDP. They all they on. And there's plenty of work to be done in in many companies and end of the day. You know, I guess the keys is in the title of the regulation is based protection is looking Austa people's data and generally to make that work. He do have to have a good base in cybersecurity. 'cause if you come put the locks on the door is no point talking back privy it so much like giving someone cut ins n even have a window. You know, you need the foundation that to make it work. So where where do you stalling? I daily start at the top. And we talked to the bold or senior management to count actually gonna weather Skype as where where the resolve get agreement away the result amend, and then we put together sort of plan with that was we generally, and this is not playable to companies most of these worries United and many companies now this is highly complex 'cause everyone's using plant services that may have been say legacy. You know, that could be anything a few weeks old in reality is just maybe on a different system had had, you know, had they been used his Glaxo can you deliver the data subject rights? So we can't do this type of analysis. They the GDP all talks about technical measures. I think there's probably another layer between which is the oepration measures. And what we try and give. Company measure of that because although you ready site, you know, this is at fifty percent sixty percent will you can't say with made an improvement in the last three months when now improve beyond whatever we will thinking before says, it's a relative measurement rely Ryan. So it's so it spit lights over Jew diligence procedure. I absolutely I think that's that's a good way to describe it. Having been on the econo- Rollo rice side of many big ody's by any of the big old companies. The questions are going to be similar. You know, can you can you also the questions and can you get on a number levels? And if you can pull fill that you've done the best you possibly can. I think that's really all. They're all voice at young stand. It you know, what to do things guy role having fully understood things around horribly sometimes at least she understood will today and how you control it. Yeah. It's very difficult in in with things like Deitz breach and stuff that I mean, we hear about it all the time. We Eli the big credit card companies, you know, and things like this. And it's just like will whose responsibility is it if if if you're saints breeze or one of the big big companies in in in the UK, right? And you have data-breach, surely, surely, it's your responsibility, tell the banks the banks to lock down from their end before something happens. Surely, I think that's quite riot. And actually what they you know, the information conditions office. I. And the JD PL says that if there is a risk to the data subjects potential future detriment. So you need to done that risk assessment as part of the bridge and within often just the day before it was a great Alta, some company the freedom of information on the ICU out and the fish on the data breaches that have been reported and the figures of quest down the NFL ninety percent didn't know what the impact of the breach was on the subjects seventy percent, hadn't filled full mount promptly. I'm sort of paraphrasing. But it it was that level. So the understand the, you know, it's not just reporting the data breach. It's demonstrating how you handle the because she is a full of things will go wrong. But if you can demonstrate yet we understand the race. We know where responsibilities and we have based Ryan mitigated, you're going to be a good place in Singapore that pretty strong on most of this talk today to protection, and they often don't. Fine companies today to great they can actually demonstrate they did all the right things at the right time in the right way. Right, right. Yeah. It's it's it's a very interesting on like who actually owns the data is kind of one thing that that with. Everybody built chain. Guys, come on. You know, it's about time you took control of owning your own data. It's actually kinda host is already bolted as far as on Zand. Absolutely. And actually that comfortable ending data when it comes to personal data. Nobody really owns anymore. The you just have they control avail, maybe the right to use it for that period. So I tell you different concept. It's not a entities beta do with as they will those days, you can save this Facebook can the the Google inquiries are rapidly disappearing. He it some is signed on still so lost with really GDP. Aw. I mean, you know, I spent some time I have couple of websites and collect Email addresses. But that's all ready. Collects Email, Email and name. Sometimes no even the name. And it's like while if your Email, and you don't like just on. Scribe lie. I'm not ready. But I I was was using of linked teeny miles, and I had linked tin database of light pre nine thousand ten thousand. Wow. Yeah. And I was sending out a mouse show to them and cities GDP all on wall on going to start out together trends, and then kind of social media became more of the focus the I had and even thing is is the you'll you'll giving away access to data anyway. And it's all in retirement unin beat Sabido. So know so folks business people, I'm not I'm not ready, sending someone an Email intended into by something. I mean, it's it's quite different to for example, glosses few days ago and shows reading losses, right? And you know subscribed to. I don't even think subscribed to the dates from. I'm not gonna mention the name, but a big retail company in the UK that deals with glosses. Yeah. Is only three or four and thing is babysitting. Me emails looking contact lenses. All you have Amazon voucher. So I open one just to kind of see if I can on subscribe. And yet, I then I will ball with emails then there is notes unsubscribe box on the Email. In addition to that, I will con- even reply to the elks. No reply Inara Lamia. Yeah. He's supposed to unsubscribe. That's a legal. Isn't it pretty much? I think the other thing is it's not just that. There's other regulations around that. There's a regulation Packer has been around a long time in that controls the communication dates. So actually, it's that one phase where the yes, how you Email and how you use Electr. Communication, and then GDP L kicks in on how you storm process that as behind the scenes so actually levels of legislation which makes it a little bit more complicated. And you're quite right everybody. Most of these things they should have an old towel that they're all. They're all ways. If you something from a company that the consent to the soft. Optional actually maybe this part of the contract that you know, when you do businesses somebody. They actually the contractors is that I will tell you about my doubts. I would have to be based on, you know, the concept of consent. And I think that's where lower companies when obey crazy on especially on the twenty four twenty fifth of may when we will in undated with a billion emails. I I don't know whether you the emails were services, the oil companies, and they said if you don't consent to the Email, we won't based Bill you and replied to them. So you goes kinda crazy if this is no JD VR is about Judy PR is just make sure they Recife and he's not exploited in a bad way is not to stop you in business receiving money in placing invoices on this big myths than around around life for the for people. I think there's kind of a number of mates. Yeah. And everything has got to be putting context, you know, you often sale by on Lincoln, and sometimes it's probably in the right direction. But without nine the full context, you could be making a big mistake. I was doing a conference on the way somebody said they had four million eater Email addresses. Can they use them? The the first question you should ask his Ave existing customers 'cause that's a different also than if we United scrape throat the internet away them, oh, we acquire them from another company. Right. So, you know, same same data different contexts and a different way of handling, right? Right. So it it's very very contextual. I mean, I guess one of my favorite examples is at a knife, your member, the germy Kobe on the Beijing trains, where he could his picture taken in flow and trying to prove triangle Siva crowded, and then virgin, actually, then released pictures of the whole carrying shady is pretty much empty Ellen a couple of so they they take into toss while the ICI they went find or anything, but the point made was the head the right self-defense defense. But actually, the people in the train whose photos were implicit will over the national newspapers, their expectation was actually this cameras use to security that they're not gonna be, you know, plus the national press. So, you know, the same photo can have multiple different contacts and connotations and usage, and it's really putting which which is why it's difficult. I once Inara may look good another one may get. Yeah. Yeah. But then then it's also it's back to the security of that data lot. You actually looking down container wherever it may be and the transport of that data. Yeah. And it's become you know, an always has been reality. It's become more than who has access to that. They turn. Hello him for the grey zone. Pool is hosted a worker in versity looks at the wrong. Patient's medical details. Is that bridge. He probably is a breach. But when you actually think of actually how you gonna fix this. You know, when you have a ten thousand records two hundred else whittles hundred stuff, you're you're in the data of hundred million combinations. So one percent error in who gets the wall could be a million data points out run. So it it sounds simple tended cly could be quite complex than have you managed. I going forward. Have you know that person change role, and they need access day and making Matt? Is friction disposable which which I guess sounds easy in ten seconds. But realities will be tougher. Yeah. Everything sounds easy until you really dig it. I mean, if you if you documenting the process is a map is a massive task, isn't it? Obstinately the record keeping of over is just is just massive. But but it goes back. Go goes even further though, the mess it go, you know, it goes Deepa than than of service level because it's actually everyone's responsibility. Isn't it within business it everyone's responsibility? Am I guess it also comes down to how we all connect systems in. How we imprint as often employee's the as his quiet for night. They may I k- is kind of easy to tell them change your pulse way than data line around the US base. But actually if you'll database collections than you going structures say collect every piece of data that person when he rings up is down to the database designer, and he authorizes that data to be collected. You know, you need to know, you know, what will mean sign notable under for example, maybe in some circumstances. But mostly because no so question would be why he collecting it. I I mean. Then you come into the regulatory areas where you know, there are regulator requirement safe. Oh companies in the UK daily with the US where they even have to collect people's high white, which rebounds crazy when I said this madness actually in the US that was a requirement. So they had to do it. Because now you've got that data you're gonna manage it. You could look after the dates data this being created on. Everyone is just insane. Isn't it like a forget the figure this some ridiculous figure isn't like per diets. Just just see. But, but then then it goes it goes to you know, if you think about like, the kind of video data is taken on people. So for example, you know, you could be out in the streets, and the, you know, the government looking at data and they've got offficial intelligence. The is analyzing that video foot. To make sure that knows carrying a weapon all walking. So that it looks like you definitely carrying a weapon. Yeah. And so they are they on using this, thanks for specific purposes. And the real issue is that where it's stored and then the transport them where actually goes off to they keep it full and how use behavioral analytics is kind of coal thing. But sometimes machines computers, they might mistakes and he get profiled. Look this guy looks like he's carrying huge weapon. They never yeast, but you get a mall angel name. You'll never know why potentially, you know, in my kids school, they took about can I have some money for lunch is took my thumb because I thump print to on that in the school anywhere. My wife doesn't let me 'cause I'm always, you know, what do you think with managing are you going to delete you when they leave and in other questions. Difficult again. Good on sedate. Yeah. So edging edging into. Territories Skynet is net. Yeah. As isn't it? You know, if you look at the new powered Khanna Trojans and in with wolf air and start this. We we creating huge risk a huge security risk the the innocence. I mean, I've just looked you up or got this to the I just looked you up Lincoln just before and account, whereas of good somewhere altogether. I'll out basically it goes through hippy guys don't get now. And basically tells me is says David is primarily driven or logic and officiency likely brings most conversations to a quick rational conclusion. Achmet says skeptic. Yeah. You like a likes critique avoids emotional decisions the k-. Yeah. And and it's telling me how so I need. So I can I can have on how to approach you. Yeah. Says David tends to be objective thinker who prioritizes accuracy results. He will pay likely attention to smooth details, which I knew anyway, I can see straight to be rocus on Cest. Yeah. And make take systematic approach to solving problems. So so, you know, it says it comes naturally, David highly value. Accuracy question inefficient practices. Yeah. So is the importance of quality, right? And all this just from your linked profile while. Even further. I it says. Yeah. And but it's amazing. But then the thing is that you shed that information with into Choi, and and it's it's very very strange world whereby people people are are only just starting to realize that the moment, they go onto a website starting to be followed around the internet, absolutely. And they still lost. They still don't realize that the only the only time when they actually out sense about is is when it's that kids being fully around the internet ply. But balls the China work, actually, I is kind of, you know, the next generation of take this coming in now to to protect on her black belts in children. Really? And that bent probably needs to be done than if you notice with us two weeks ago U2. been couple of other companies take talk tidy changed how they deal with on the third seines and stop to load of connectivity. Following comments top stuff because. I guess getting in the wrong hands to put a model and being exploited in the horrible. Terrible centralize. Yeah. Yeah. I mean has an kind of conduct the rounds of, you know, being quite easy to to to do things to vulnerable people, you know, and as is for people who want to do that. It was very very easy. It's it's still easier than ever ever has been because it's because it's social media. Very easy to contact someone. If you know, if you know that name, you might know their phone number, and they find them on on on social media, and it, but the thing is up. Then it's up to officers parents to educate our children to the point of knowing it is, but how much education can you do that sufficient 'cause you know, I mean, I I've got three children and the biggest problem ahead had was have you control tonight. It was ready tough. You know, having none wrong here. Security networks trading trillions dollars it. I. Then you come highly. Find actually, you know control whatsoever. Right. Very difficult manage to achieve a level of inverted commerce compliance. But it, but it was easy. You know, you giving everybody a using also just doesn't work hiding because everyone shares it what you can in full sit. And so yeah, it does become very difficult. And then what you do with mobile finds much more difficult to control what either when they round friends houses. What a problem to crack. And that is that is something that, you know, they're all companies working on at somebody with that. Because as such a challenge because everyone I've met a parent who says to me is a problem. But I'm I'm sure it is a problem. Oh, yeah. Sure. The I know either not. But the thing is at least at least shooting wiser than they were in. All yeah. Yeah. They're way way more clear up. You know, when I told to my Sanni, he's he's big gamer. I'm always saying, you know, how do you know, these guys you're playing on some kind of strange person? And he goes undertook about the game. If I took about anything else. I I just tend the Mike off. It was on the interesting about anything about the guy, right? You know, he he may be an exception. I don't know, you know, the kids may engage, but he kind of the thing longtime ago that he was gonna engage Chabba the game. And that's it. Right. So so with as far as as far as security GD. Aw. And the sole thing excuse me. Oh, man, you know with the internet, right? Surely surely should be down to the incident service providers to actually do something about about internet security, like they more responsibility for his own concerns. And and I think you're right there. And I think there is there is a definitely sort of grants flown out of cope responsibility has to be taken a little bit more seriously. If you if you buy a mobile FANG, if you kids, for example, as everything on it is very difficult having controlled other than a cap on the Bill, and maybe some kind of very lightweight safe into nephew drink you Cup onto the communications he come on cyberbullying, any of those type of things and coast. They won't miss early knowledge that mobile device is I'm by all you pay the Bill as a meadow the job doesn't edible. So. Yeah. That that toughest office is may come in. They're all there is a lot of what going on background on that. And luckily of it's over with that. So that's good. That sounds really good is really interesting. An just came back to another point you brought up earlier about you know, you stop emailing. Yen's sort of moved to social media when you think about it. He's actually, you know, we should mediais probably just a handful of social media in a controlled by known UK company. These. So what we've done in invest in his we've made legislation to protect people that actually is now driven to said puffy toes that are not even European quite often controlled just to maintain business which. Sounds a bit kind of weird now, really? Yeah. It's it's very difficult to keep track of of what's going on. I mean, you connect your counts to sorts of things. And and it's kinda like if you don't sets up the source of protocols, you know, like. The Paul to indication United all these things is kinda not you'll responsibility, isn't it? So lock down. Absolutely. And generally the more. You can have the the better as. A of the big a kind of nines that don't some, you know, get stuff that you do have a mobile phone, otherwise anyone looks into your account on a different shade. You'll you'll get a warning lights is great stuff definitely better than it was in the meeting more and more in that direction. Yeah. And I guess social media's had pretty good run. Probably got bit outta control many companies people in iso- different world with we've had to work at his work. And how do we still bad things happening? Where does the difference between bad things happening in government interference? Very good point very one of the best of both worlds. Yeah. I mean, we don't want to stifle innovation because we wanna make make continued growth. Right. But then we will protect people. So it's it's difficult is difficult. It is. And I think he can look at the history of regulation, generally. I think it's been a good thing. If you look airplanes in the US they were first regulated in nineteen Twenty-three cause the death Ramos too high. You know, look at trouble. Now grunter normally because he was regulated any site, you know, food standards same same thing. 'cause in the seventies. There was a risk calculation done in the seventies. That a life is worth on making. These figures was was fifty thousand dollars or whatever and they could afford a letter lives because they make millions hundreds and hundreds millions of dollars and top accumulation is now you're not allowed to write the value of human life guys profit and Costa damn business calls has to be safe. And you know 'cause way safe. Now, and you know, the of safety belts unite a wall agai, you know, twenty thirty years the people what to say about and that's not radio decision anymore. He get cool. You're gonna get fined if he don't wear you could have a dreadful accident. So it's not really a risk decision. That people make any more. I and the same is probably that come to information security that I sat and things has to be done. And that way the right potentially them the right of bridge. Yeah. It's everyday multiple tons every day now. Oh, yeah. It is companies. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it's is just. Still got back to the point. It's just like the incident needs to she times bones ability, and the people, you know, like, for instance, if you're using say, you say your own virgin or your own a specific internet service provider via. IBM? A rise in wherever they needs tight responsibility and actually closed down. And that may be the kind of direction that something's going to need to go. Head. We get that responsibility. I think that's going to be a government initiative, and a may maybe a may come to that. But then then it may start full so industries, and it might it might actually everyone everyone in the tech. Well once freedom, right? But it's not walk costs to absolutely an improbably. Maybe that causes is getting too high now from many people, really. Yeah. You know, the the exploitation. I I read somewhere that you know, the hell how Facebook in the Trump relations. Yeah. They like remember the volume targeted messages that were talking to individual profiles was I think it was in the hundreds of thousands. It wasn't like, you know, who vote this party, or whatever it was a message tailored Micronesia's of you know, two or three people. I know isn't it so strange how nothing's been done about about it a find it a find. I mean, a find it particularly strange the that. Also, you know, we can have, you know, whether you won't Brexit. We don't will Brexit that's actually relevant now. But because it's happening, right. But the point I'm making is what actually how did we get to that point? Will we got to that point because people were to out use multi more effectively plans and a robots about it? You know, free full days after no one, really. Yeah. No, no one really busted on it. But I thing is the company behind it Cambridge on liquor. They were set up for the beginning full. Yeah. Yeah. Ghosting someone goes to a meeting with someone who's an undercover reports knowing that that unto cover old like. Don't idiot to not sit there and go through that takes you back to the conversation of well, you know, a breach happened people got hold of people's data. But actually, it wasn't a breach toll because that day data was freely given away even away. I'm owning noise. Yeah. Point point, you know, that goes back to the whole ethics. The Cobra social responsibility of social media networks themselves, you know, and an actually there's a new blockchain powered one that's coming out soon. Could how do and and that one you actually get it being control of your dates up. Interesting on how much day to you you give away. All how little but you will also be paid fifty percent of Adra view allowed that survey through your count. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting modal, cool. Right. It's very interesting. Yeah. I think the other thing is that. Bag is a he was kind of took another dependents. So that their ideas that stuff you post on social media would have a limited life. He won't be there forever. 'cause I the other problem with the writing on social media. It could be the. In two token, the well that's why that's why. So, of course, Shen PayPal about about, you know, social media. We'll we'll make mistakes. Don't we? But you know, when emotions a high is very very easy to to to do things. But think thing is then we've got another conversation. It's like freedom of speech. Like what happens the freedom of speech lot? We sit back, and we so much not worth frayed to speak about things these days because like, oh, that's not politically correct all can't sale because you know, someone might think on being racist. Or like, you know, I'm not racist to to in any way shape before. But you know. It's it's a funny funny world whereby, you know, people can get banned from social media platforms. Speaking about sudden things when actually that just being having freedom of choice. She'll speech, you know. Guess that's kinda getting the balance. Right. Because of the power of many of these entities yet. You know, pushing me, you know, with with Spiderman thing with great pack. Great responsibility and had had he managed that. Yeah. And we we've probably not need to say on such a scale. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean is difficult. You know, because NASA social media is really in its y in business now. Well, yeah. Most companies have gone massive sexual media prison. Rely on it. All the time. I it's it's it's necessary for them. Absolutely. But Bahati heavy managing make sure that it doesn't come go into the dot places. Yes. This is this is the problem, isn't it? I mean, I would rather have public discussions quite than than actually then go behind closed doors because that's when extremists cause issues if if those conversations were public, we could have good old argument with them publicly. Or the people who liked to troll others because there are many of them than it would it would side to be different wouldn't it? But you know, 'cause I wouldn't driving it below closed doors into he I think there's two sides of that there's the political side, and there's also the commercial side that actually, you know, your data can be exploited both ways. Run. I if you've ever watched the the TV ads, the sending some kind of cool gays, and you know, by the end of that, you eighty one evening, he used very well so ever because they changed as best they wash every minute. You know, this many gained the right number coz, they modify modify said becomes resistible and the same happens on the internet. So yet, you come across these, you know, the would phrases of particularly chosen for you. And as you said, you you kind of very light profile, you found about me of however, bonded, customization visuals. So you're actually got a direct message, and it becomes very irresistible. Yeah. It does. But then then isn't that isn't that also potty all responsibility to educate people that we know to understand that. So the we know thousands think tens of thousands of marketing messages die when we go out into the streets. Whatever. So, but the end of the dight you can't buy ways you can't have free TV without advocates. You can't have, you know, free content without adverse and the consumers need to understand. Nothing's free giving away clicking and reading something fun. That's you'll mistake and reading that you all giving away your data. And if you need to you need to just close, your counts, a main a Netflix, Satory Netflix. They reckon again extra billion a year by profiling everybody to for their likes and dislikes. Yeah. I look at it the hell from what I do love. 'cause United says you finish one feel another film that you just know you gotta watch right up. Did you know that that's only based upon ten clicks of the beginning. When you started your Graham read 'cause it's it's a very clever recommend a system that. I studied I did a little bit study into machine learning and recommend systems which sit behind those things power and do bridge thing because they just they basically ask you some questions, and if you soon as you get ten dates points, they've got enough information. And then gets better in veteran better as as it goes along. It's very thing. That's amazing. It is you want you are paying that flex. So you don't have adverts you see he's kind of like is quite an interesting an interesting topic, raise more interesting. So so so kind of back to back to suit GPO. What do you think will can is Asians really need to do? I think probably boil it down to a couple of things nothing. Probably one of the first ones these breaches inevitable, unfortunately. And if you've got great prices on how you're gonna manage and deliver. You can still look good like bad things have happened had the may, you know, the best summing up pretty much every company can do. It's having a good breach price. Good escalation model I just taking the bull by the homes and eight will the outcomes are generally y way better if you have in place, you can demonstrate to place and the other thing, I know this is ready. Toffee is available seats rates deliver the data subject rights, obviously, Dr ready dependent on nine when they trade-in what the security levels all on that they, but that's an ongoing process that can be started in that canoe ball an inappropriate take companies quite a few years to get to a very safe level. But you know, the journey can begin an you can demonstrate Johnny. And you can kinda show anybody that this is this is the intention of the business that actually are intended. Today. Good things with the data. I know, you know, treaty badly exploited and give it away and leave our cells. I contained to unnecessary. Should I say run so day to subject rights? Can you explain a bit mall that me looking bit confused that prosaic? Sorry, right. That's why also questions. They subject as you kind of talking you signed up for amount letter attention, you know, your rights on that you can consent and issue with will consent as easily as you not what you should also ask the knows what else are they doing with HR? They profiling you is that they are stored in the in the years stored somewhere else in the world, you know, you have the right to know where that is. And also their retention periods. Hallam do they intend to give you know? All you are you on that Email is a life or they review every so often, the people are all ski commission a guy consent. He's not forever. So all these right? So there, and you know, the subjects request. You can also this information an awesome to deliver. What information they have about you Oviously in San areas, they can give everything if it's regulated financial firm signing to making the dive. Vow Alah Camby employees have rights and a lot of that data can be sent back to the data subjects show. What you've got on them. And if is wrong, you have the right for it to be rectified. I mean, the ones I was gal stays in his the cannot have the right to forgotten straight the right of deletions strike razor a regime, but really the two different things. If you look at the cases with Google, they were actually the right to be unlinked from the search engine because of the data was stolen somebody else's website say you'd have to today if you wanna deleted, no, Google will go do condemn presumptive, just like you won't find in such engines. So you know, that's kind of more of a right to be forgotten. So it's no easy final. Although one of the people that actually challenge to his actual regional data. He won Bobby see the case Hazan's, he's even more famous his challenge to the rights be forgot. On. And of course, the right to be regime. It's very difficult in digital well to delete stuff. I mean companies that Cup every fifteen minutes online to a cloud service. You can have thirty thousand copies with detainees. Data very difficult to work at it. The Lee venture you could walk out your backup procedure. Can you do in such a way that is possible in the future to today to interview Condoleeza, can you virtual deletion, and there's a discussion actually actually the nation idea fall of my laptop actually the data's not deleted. Just just the pathway. Soy dater is has been the needed. So you know, what is true relational? We took a military grade. We you encrypted in variety in critique game interleague to twenty times, or is it actually the concept of virtual deletion where actually nobody has access to or if they do it's just difficult. It's as good as gum run. So it so it's basically change. In its full. And no one can actually read it bicyles, our your that's an ideal world. I think the reality is if you can do virtual deletion where actually you can say that this piece of data no-one can look at you. And if you do have to look at union, a, you know, four is I'll see so is that means, you know, two three four people tool throws it. So he Kombi just because you ten o'clock says you can look at your system been full set. So in multiple coaches to get data. Yeah. Excuse me. Yeah. It's quite interesting really because they're all these different departments on that within businesses within enterprises liable. Why would wine would like someone in one department needs to know everything about someone that needs needs to be specifically boxed up an access to it needs to be specifically given doesn't it show home late? And Germany his way ahead of you know, most practices, right? Ran europe. You know, even if you wanna share data with different department, you have to make sure you've got a propitiate system. Are you can get into trouble and you're in your car, right unites? The way I guess we say Easter now saying up IT systems would pretty much allowed access for most places in its had get gang that control back in verify it's easy. When you got ten people in the company, it's a million times auto when you got ten thousand peaking the company, and they will job city in the liberals out. So, you know, it's not an excuse. I think there's a thing on the commission commissions his website about subjects request says that what if I get too many, and I can handle I'm paraphrasing, and they said actually twenty years to get ready back component is not note. Right. So they face it. Everything needs to be an automated process seamless process if someone wants their data. And they have a right to have that day to delay deleted. They able to just click a button firstly request the data the half on you must delete this Adine when you holding it actually. Remember there are sections. You know, you know, the there's liabilities he sold products services. There's financial regulatory stuff, and you may have to keep data of much longer periods. You know, some pasta pensions to be captured your hundred or quivalent to a hundred so applies to a lot of data doesn't miss reply toe as she said, you know, most of is probably on the sorority cats. But then I guess if you in IT, you know, the one thing you not that guy's wrong is when you delay treat can orderly wrong. She shouldn't have deleted it. Because storage is now say cheat with not really kind of wired about deleting data now, actually deleting data is is a real all. Yes. Just managing not right. So really wear is. You know, it's not it's not not if you delete deleted you get a need it probably anyway. And so you might as well keep it as long as you keeping it safely. A no-one no-one is actu-. Getting access to it who shouldn't have access to it than it's you showing diligence Ryan, knowing no, I mean, I mean speaking is kind of in line with GDP you'd I need it. You should get rid of it. Right. I mean, what what we when I you know, when we tend to well, we companies what we do is. We we were commend the very structure deletion prices. I say something small deletion a doesn't actually gets lead to maybe nine months or a year. Loder processes in order checks. Just check that someone in the company. Didn't have a good reason. Why we needed Cape it? So nothing is really it's yes. This is the price. She needs to go through this company. It can take months, I guess, I know for race compliance legal marketing just to make sure that I should be this data Rezai I for the lesion, but in the meantime, it could be plumbers friction, which is the next bays problem else to delay. Actually, can if you can put it on restriction as probably Haege leap forward to sign. You know, it's ready for the lesion sometime Marla, right? But social media social media outlets that just Cape it just because they can absolutely. And I think that that's probably got a trash in lights yet. And I think they the zip codes idea of permanence ready. So that can be back in the data. Subjects controls has stuff. You. Posted ten years ago kinda policy nyala can be rid of if needed. He doesn't have to say. Yeah, it's a whole whole can of worms, isn't it? Thank you, really, George joking. Great each education, actually, add of it. We should follow up house into to another one have a alien. Because there's so much didn't realize just had a look at your price fall, and it will. And it's just like this stuff that you that you should know about. Yeah. It's pretty serious. Pretty serious stuff, really, quite exhausting. Actually, I always was bored. 'cause my brother works for Cisco and down my mind with security, but I think until you've actually had someone happy and damage your stuff. Right. I don't think you preset. What it's like to actually have absolutely emblem. And the reality is, unfortunately, most of the isn't like on the TV quite often. You don't even know you being hacked exactly do know, you go into actually, you don't know the sky sky will solve the problem, and you've got to go. You know, what are we gonna do? We actually have no idea what's going on. And we think with letdown. So we have vague there was going on. And he could take months, maybe even longer. Oh, yeah. And you just don't know what's going on. If you know, a programmer is very difficult. Like, that's why having a good security software is is important. You know, whatever it might absolutely data as often as possible. And just don't annoy anyone. That's ready hacker. Did you saw that story about some of the call security? They I guess it was taking the challenges these things on our website. They said they call security was on habitable in three days. You know, they told actually it's not a day a week many risks coming out with internet things like it's. You know, there's a next level of security coming and actually him. It's it's using machine learning to actually workout was going on the network. And I think that is that's most exciting actually. But it's, but it's exciting and needs that level. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I think we could talk about that. Two. That's what's so funny. Is that she would like to talk about that. That's one for another time. Right. Well, appreciate it. Thank you so much is being fun. Yeah. Thank you. Thanks so much for listening. Please subscribe, and wherever you prefer share with your friends. And if you enjoy the show drops review on I tunes, all wherever you listen.
Will XLM Lead Bitcoin Again?
"Today's episode is proudly brought to you by try to cubs the double bay dot com. Join up for the free biweekly video newsletter with myself my table. Keep you up to date on the moves that are in this crypto market. Now, if you wanna learn how to make money within the market goes up or down, go to try to call dot com. Now. Vitrey to call crypto show, talking business, influx Jane. Get everybody and welcome to the to cope crypto podcast. Hope you'll having a good stopped. You'll die and listen. I've been looking at the top ten this morning and I've got something that I want to talk to you guys about its when Stella moves. I k so bear with me. Bear with me bitcoin still within that. Ryan has been talking about lower solder of that range sixty one hundred upsides sixty eight fifty ish, and it's just meandering along. Lucca crab that is sideways. But look at the top ten. Let's say that bitcoins Dan half percent of theory and one point, five bitcoin cash. Two point, three AS half a percent cod, Donna up three percent still up nearly six percent Neo at one point, five one point. Three ripple down point, six and lot coined down one percents, four of the top ten up six down, but the big moves on the outside. Now, what does that mean? Well, honestly, probably not a great deal. Maybe even nothing, but what it does is it. It brings me back to a time when there's a tunnel is said, I am now bullish bitcoin, and I was because we had an uptrend. We had a really nice reversal that was back in the back end of middle middle to end of July when we had that clear, clear high elope and then Bush got up. She went from six thousand and they the yearly Lowe's, they so they still hold that point at which I said, I am bullish. It has held as as the bottom thus far now I'm not suggesting was calling bull. No, it's not what I try and do, but it's holding. That level for the time being. And that's one of my next key levels if we get through sixty one hundred. The interesting thing that I want to sort of the interesting observation that I've got is based on my memory in them. Now walk you through that back then. I mean, if we talk about Deitz the die that we broke up through that into an upturn and I said, I was bullish, that was the seventeenth of July. Now I also talked about Stella how it had actually already made that l- higher low and was already starting to uptrend. Okay. So it an already started to to move into an uptrend. Now this here rot jai-alai to a high high as as as it broke up and must've this here it was around the fifteenth of July. It had already moved, so it'd moved before bitcoin. I had done a video talking about whether this was to be the later all the lag in the top ten. And right now I'm seeing something similar whilst the rest of the market is somewhat stagnant somewhat tied sideways crabbing we have Stella, which is up five percent today. Now if we consider something else, I'm talking about still against the US dollar. Now we've got it in that wall dial Monday how shoe process shot up at its Paik still ahead a high of twenty twenty twenty seven cents the high of twenty seven cents on bitcoin. We had a high of seventy seven thousand seven hundred. Seven thousand seven hundred and hundred bitcoin hasn't got anywhere neither as highs. Stella is sitting at twenty four cents and his peaked at twenty nearly twenty six. I just one cents shy those old highs from that pump. And there's nothing else that I can recall a theory not not new. Those highs bitcoin cash is coming back off a ours is not new. Those highs cut. Donna is probably one of the ones that still starting to grind back towards it. NIA also not new those hearts, but still grinding bio to the same gardening ripple will ripple has been one of those that has moved. It has moved quite nicely ripple. In fact, it he's up towards the Hawes of ripple, which we about fifty fifty two cents and lot coin just sort of holding lower again. So again with we starting to say theme, he was, I going to say that Kadan report Neo iota are the ones that seem to be performing better. Now, are they going to lead the market again? Is still going to be a leader in the market? Or is it just a move on its own? That remains to be seen, but it's something interesting to consider them. Nevertheless, because last time we saw that west Stella lead, we saw bitcoin follow. Now I'm not suggesting that that he is going to happen, not at all. It is nice to see that with still leading, hopefully bitcoin will follow, but it's just an observation and it's just part of what I do. I mean, I'm very when I'm trying. I'm beating my head very much in the game, right. I'll tell you, I don't try what I'm not feeling great. I'm feeling good at the moment and. The raisin try when I'm not feeling guys because I want to get to remember these things because little things like this oughta this down. It's just come back to me and I thought hang on a sec. Stella's leading big home. I wonder if this is going to happen a guy now just be observant. I'm not suggesting that a will. I'm just saying, be observing, let's just see how this plays out all in all. It's nice to say four out of the top ten moving well, all say, definitely still moving. We'll anyway. And if anything, if it is the play, it's a positive, so have a great day and I'll speak to gain very soon before you go guys if you like, what I do, please share it. I'd like to see this continue to grow and if you like it, then I'm sure lots of your friends, family and people in the groups do too. So you give me a little shoutout on socials, whatever it may be a really appreciate all Riley review for the podcast. That'd be Stella day guys. Bye for now. 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So guys get across to try to club dot com slash joining and take advantage of those 'cause we won't be saying mcgann as coach lifted around the world of the As much of the world the restrictions that is we We to lifting that discount. Why go to sites pain that for a heck of a lot longer than I thought it would be that this This disease or disease virus has It's deeper than what it looked like at the beginning while it looked like Maude on this. Unfortunately it has a hug you will. Now let's talk about the market. So what's going on? Well spoke yesterday about about the mock pulling bungalows dialing timeframes wrote. It was looking pretty good. Did pull back at rejected Riddick to the point where we Ernie Down Point. Two two of percent now. That doesn't that's a good thing right and look unease. It's a guy thing they got a little bit is is is better than being down a lot in most cases. But you see you see on the tried. And as a trader. I WanNa see that pullback on happy to see it go down because I wanted to go down to get entry before it goes up. This is how I tried. Trie- consolidations tried pobox. That are the two things I tried. Don't try bounces and I tried. Sledding trend lines. It's all to do with written checklist as you very well away right now so where to from here. Well look it could very well still pulled back. And I'm looking at the level. Arousing Eighty one hundred being a NAS bought. Marcus wanted to things. They typically Consolidate and white for the moving averages to catch up because of course they are moving averages. That's only outlet. Used to moving average of the price will do that. We'll what they'll do is they'll pull back into those averages that's one of the Colombian. I speak of quite frequently now with Bitcoin at the moment. Look it's probably one of the better daily trends out there. Throwing Car Donohoe Theory Classic End GotTa be said trump's pretty six years well at the moment and they are better trends that we've got in the market so that's where. I'm looking at the moment from opportunities now in saying that I look I want you to jump onto my facebook wall jumping with facebook but on YouTube As soon as you possibly can because to assert three. Pm STRAIN STANDARD. Time which is in one hour from now Martin. If these two o'clock I'll be doing the laws scan of the F. T. X. List. You'll have a lincoln that way. You can save ten percent off your trading phase there as well as long as you have already opened up enough chicks. You can have ten percent trading reduction there but going through that Lincoln. What I'M GONNA DO GONNA scan that market. I want to show you what exactly it is that I am looking at an world. I am whiting four because I am waiting. I'm waiting for flood levels to be broken and that can take some time. Bitcoin is currently at night. So Thousand Eight Hundred Ninety I. It's down it's basically flat on the dight therion. Classic doesn't have too much resistance on certain bonds. Bitcoins that a little bit on sixty five wouldn't be surprised to see pushing we break. That level above nine thousand theory is not really go too much going on in two to six thirty one which is flat for the Exa Pay hasn't level there Upper ramps set low. Roughly twenty above twenty two cents is what I'm looking at their. Its up point four of a percent. Bitcoin cash not much going on there. It's up point. Six to forty six seventy cents. They will. There's nothing really despicable they go to. I three hundred so it's flooding dine. There's not much to not try to Locked gone camping in on some resistance there. Well I looked at the half out John. Around forty seven forty fool. It's it's pretty much. The dies well at forty six ninety. Six moment is up. Point seven point zero seven two dollars. Seventy seven not much going on their bonnets taking along seventeen dollars a night since up point full. All ibis in Kaduna is one of my favorites. Tonight's one percent at five cents on the nose as a bit of resistance on keeping an eye on around five cents point zero two. You'll say if you look on the job I'll have site them. A five at shot of the minute is a theory classic. It's been training pretty well. You know seven dollars. Thirty one around that region little flat level in the low timeframes quotes quite and joined the look at that as a matter of fact on again off his podcast on age. Look if this candle does Klay shortly if on a rise in order on that because it's getting pretty darn close so once again guys. Just JUMP ACROSS TIM O. Youtube tried to call Pitt subscribe turn on the notifications and watch the live scandals. I say what's this videos on the list? I've been on account with F. Txu On the link in the description on any of my youtube videos fondly. 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"Hey, peter. Hey, jen. I sounded so American just then he Peter did I gen my gosh. I heard someone. Friend of mine who's a coach say something last week that really struck me. And I would like to talk about it. And what she brought up with me was what she called quote, the season of overwhelm who and quote. The season of overwhelm. I'm curious. So what I want to talk about is not necessarily overwhelm but seasons. Okay. It's currently approaching winter on your perching summa so season sound like a very topical and fun and relevant discussion. This is the longest shortest. I don't know why needed to add cortex about seasons. But we went there. Hey, it's all good. What's funny? Because rape before we started recording. You were like, what's on your mind? What's going on? Comey summer's coming. I can't wait. And the reason I can't wait is because that is a specific season. For me. I'm not talking about the weather. Although I am talking about the weather in talking about is the quality of life that I live during the summer and the quality of work that I'm able to produce during the summer verses what I just came through which was for me, my season of overwhelmed, January February March and early April in the theater industry is absolute chaos. It is a season of overwhelm. And I wanted to sort of hear from you and share from my perspective, why it might be useful to think about our lives as having seasons and just as you do spring cleaning for the spring, and you. You know, get your winter coat dry cleaned before it snows. How can we be better at preparing ourselves for the seasons that we know are coming? I love this idea, particularly because this will be I think an important learning experience for me because I full disclosure do not think about have not stopped pause to think about how my work how my life is structured into seasons. Other than the summer autumn winter spring weather, but honestly from a point of view, I've not done this. But I really liked the idea of what that might help me. See? So this could be this could be alive a Hamam in the making that sell sell exciting. Okay. Well, I will do a little sharing from my perspective. And then I would love for you to bounce your ideas back and maybe self reflectance self assess and do it in real time talk to me, what are the gen wilbon seasons. So I've got the season of overwhelm. Which is January through mid April. And I believe the overwhelming majority of the clients that I work with also experienced that same season of overwhelm which is why I think it is ironic that so many of my clients set New Year's resolutions and believe that they're going to be able to instill an implement new habits at the busiest time of the year where everything is like a complete and utter chaotic mess. So. After the season of overwhelm. I have this sort of like bridge the gap moment, which I'm in right now, which is like a time to tie up those loose ends figure out anything that I need to sort of deal with before I enter my season of creativity and productivity and inspiration. Which is really for me from the American holidays of Memorial Day to Labor Day when my daughter's school year is coming to a close. I don't teach any of my group classes during the summer. I do this program for a very limited number of artists in the summer months. And I basically take back all of my time and completely changed my routine that is the season where I feel like I am doing my best most creative work and because I'm working on a book right now. I think I'm chomping at the bit to get there because I feel so confident that I'm going to exit that season with a working draft. And what I love this. What Deitz the what is that for the rest of the world and the Australians sitting here. Oh, so that is the last Monday in may through the first Monday in September. Okay us so essentially the winter in the southern hemisphere. Yes. So essentially summer, and then once we exit summer, my daughter goes back to school, and I get back to the studio, and it is. It remains a productive time. But is much more structured and much more reliant on time management to get things done and also leave room for time with my family, and and creative projects and then once we get through this the holiday season at the end of the year, I go back into the season of overwhelm. And it's like I put my head down. And I do not come up for air until the middle of April. It's just crazy. Even though my daughter is a two week break during March that we tend to go away for those two weeks. But even during that time, it's like so many people have so many moving pieces and things are very very urgent. So I'm always in work mode. Even when I'm not working during that time. Overwhelm comes again is. So it's so interesting to me. I mean, obviously, you'll some of my winter sounds amazing. This idea of creating space to be creative this idea of spending time with your family. The weather's all that. Unbelievable. Like, I love that. You can structure your life in a way that you can really appreciate that time. What I'm curious about is all of this. But it particular knowing that the season of overwhelming exists, how might you mitigate it. So that it's not the season of overwhelm or do you think about creating a structure or a way of protein your work? So that it's not an overwhelming three months, four months, or is it that that's just part and parcel of what it means to be gentleman. I should say that I don't necessarily feel particularly overwhelmed. It's just very very busy. And there are a lot of moving parts. So this year, I tried something different which I think was very successful. Which was I created a new course that Iran for four months for different groups. Around shifting your mindset and changing the way, you're moving through your life. So I I introduced this right before the new year because I knew we were about to go into this season and Iran it four times, and it was very very successful for the people who went through it that they were able to move through the season of overwhelm or season of chaos or audition season with a much clearer and more confident mindset and make smarter choices and more proactive in productive choices. So by them making those changes the way they were interacting with me changed. So it definitely felt more productive this year. But still very very busy. Yeah. And so just I have a curiosity. I needed pick. I don't know if you pick y'all cities. But that's what I just said. So that's what I'm doing the workshop that you described did you create that was the idea for that manifesting itself that manifests itself in summertime lost you in your creative. You are so good at revealing blind spots. You really are because no I did not create that course, during my season of creativity. I created the course after the sort of many dishes season, the happens in the fall, and I could feel people needing more practical tools to help them make the changes in their lives and careers that they wanted to make so no it did not require my season of creativity to create this thing. Interesting. Interesting to be on us that wasn't the answer. I was expecting. I was expecting you to say, well, yes, that is when I created it in my creative time because I know this podcast, for example, the idea for it, I believe and most of the up front execution that we did before we launched happened law summa during your creative time the idea for you to double down a pursue your book happened for you in some last year. So like, I love this idea that you have and this structure that you have of. It almost feels like you create then you test the learn and you go back in you create like this in terms of startups and development cycles, and this idea of create test loan is like elated throughout the ways that you can solve develop software and all sorts of things. And so like, it just dawned on me that it's almost feels like you've got a little bit of that back into your twelve month period, which I love, and this is where I'm thinking, I could do something like this. Well, you know, it's really funny because now that you say that. The. All of the seeds. That were harvested to create the new chorus were actually indeed planted in summer. Because last summer, you know, because you were there at least virtually we came up with the idea for the podcast. I started writing the blog although didn't release it until the fall. I started writing the blog in the summer. I came up with the idea for the book in the summer. I started having these like crazy creative dreams summer. A couple of which have been spoken about on this show. And the blog was really the initial laying the groundwork for what ultimately became the course. So yes, you're right. It did start in the summer. That's that's exciting. That was what I was hoping you would say 'cause I think what I'm like putting together at the moment in my Brian is we have spoken about before. And I've got my head around on a micro level. This idea of creating spice fee self to think in creating spice few self to for me. It's bust outta watt board and do some noodling and thinking on a lot board, and that, you know. Adding a couple of hours into Calende every Waco here, and then is important for us to have a chance to think creatively and build stuff, but what you've actually done it feels like he's like extend this to a macro view, which is actually have a three month period. Where that is that is kind of what I tend to do and me personally utter not have that. And I love the idea of somehow creating some sort of structure way that could work for me. And I think they'd be a number of freelance creatives performers entrepreneurs employee's out there that would feel the same way. It's like what if you had a two month period that was your create stuff period? I love that. So I think one of the benefits of working in the industry in which I work is that this seasons are sort of prescribed but industry, but it's funny. A friend of mine who owns her own makeup company. She was. It's not even worth going to the story. But basically there was a an issue with one of the conceal is she had to find a new lab. So now, they're launching this new conceal, and the it would make more sense for her to wait to launch it because apparently there are three seasons for launching beauty products. But her customers are so eager to get their hands on this new conceal that she's going to launch it in June, which is apparently like time, you don't launch beauty products. So. What what's interesting about that is that she has her seasons as per the sort of cycles of her industry. I imagine that every industry has its own interesting cycles. So it might be worth looking at that. But knowing that there is a pattern in my work. What it has afforded me? And this is quite literally how I do this. I think you might have seen my big macro calendar at some point is I have a to a two page lay out in my calendar that shows the entire year, and I have my major ship dates on there. So I tend to know what I'm working on twelve months ahead and update that every quarter. So I always have this sort of like twelve month view. Of where I'm going in how lines up with the seasons? So I would never put a ship date in place in. February. I just know that I will miss the Mark there. But I do have, you know, deliver first draft of the book to the people who I'm gonna ask for feedback on it from by September first, that's one that's going out. And I feel like I can make good on that. And I put that date in the calendar last October. I think so that date has been in there, and I feel like I can make good on it because I have a sense of the waves of business and freedom. Okay. So here it is the moment that I unlocked something I said at the start I feel like I'm could come from this. And it just came to me. What I like about. This is. That gives you permission to focus on something. And as a result, let go of something else. And so what I what I tend to do is. I do the sub consciously I'll spend a week focusing on creating and you that I have to deliver in three weeks time, and then I'll beat myself up for not spending enough time talking to one of my clients or not spending enough time setting up the next time BI, or whatever that thing might be and I will feel guilty because I've focused too much on one thing and not enough on the other. And so I love this. This idea of creating this is testing verses. Kyle svus is like space baked into that is permission to focus on one two or three things or to have a certain mindset for that period of time. And there's a class. Iq analogy maybe of mentioned on the podcast by Geico, Derek Civis. And it's about a donkey standing in the field, and he's got a trough of high onside and a trough of water on the other side, and he's hungry, and he's thirsty any decide to eat to drink to do. I drink to drink, and he falls over and dies of dehydration and starvation, and the moral is like you could you could have both you just need a pick one. I and not be self up because of that so start with the high, and when you done with the, hey have some water. So what I like about this again is I could start with creating for a month offer three weeks three months, and then I could think about executing off to that. And the permission to not have to do both at once is so freeing, so that's my little Hamam. Thank you, very much general gosh, I love that. It reminded me of something. My brother-in-law was telling me about he and my nephew have been touring a bunch of different colleges because he's got a bunch of acceptances that came in and you need to make decision about where he wants to go, and he's going to be studying engineering and his dad, my brother-in-law was telling me about at one of the schools that engineering building is an eight story building. And each floor represents a different part of. Process. And what you learn on the first floor is idealization. And what you do on the second floor is innovation and on the third fourth and flipped fifth-floor are are in D And so on and so forth. And what I love about. This is this I d ah that you have to literally in that building get on the elevator. When it is ready to take it to the next floor, and you can't skip a floor. It's like you can't go from two to eight. You gotta go from two to three. And it sounds like the way you've just. Sort of wrap your brain around seasons. Is that what it does is give us some some sense that our processes making sense. Exactly. So I'm going to now start thinking about my seasons as being a vertical building where I'm going to take the elevator from the summer, which is when I'm getting all of my good ideas up to the next floor where I'm going to test the ideas, and it rate and research and put them in a format, and then I'm going to implement and actually bring them to the market. And then I'm going to start all over again with what's the next cycle of creation. I just I love that so much that's pool. We're gonna would still a slide that you can get from the top floor down to the pot ammonia startled everything. How about a fireman's pole a Firemen's pole? I feel like you could definitely get them. And feels like Jim with that metaphor. It might be a good place to wrap up and say that he's the long shorter.
Gamification and Big Data + Technology for Business with Ex Sony Technology Expert Nicolas Babin Episode 51
"Welcome to the Bill business acumen podcast where we deliver practical, knowledge and powerful guidance. Here's your futuristic host Nathaniel Skoula. Nncholas babble is an agile senior executive with over thirty years. International. Multi-lingual and multicultural experience a strong leader with working and living experiences in North America. The UK frauds Benelux, Germany, Japan and China. He has a proven track record in marketing sales communication and digital transformation management. Experience of all European eastern west countries set up and management of international teams and startups Europe US Japan IPO experience on the NASDAQ and on NYSE alter next Paris, digital transformation of companies and factories worldwide in robotic experienced since one thousand nine hundred six fundraising experience more than five emanate experience international. Keynote speaker on innovation e-health digital and robotics. Now, let's dig in to this exciting. Informative episode. Well today, it's really nice to be joined by nNcholas bobbin hopefully of pronounce your last name correctly. Yes, you have brilliant. So you're over in France, right? Yes. I mean bolo fronts. Fantastic fantastic. We'll get a I talk about game if occasion and data and technology, we all second second topic. And. I'm a big game if occasion fan, actually must've met. But for the people out that don't know. What would she is game? If occasion, nNcholas aren't. So there's a fischel would say deficient that came from Gabe Z, commend guy was starting to work on vacation early nine early two thousand and he says to give Gatien is the process of using game thinking and game mechanics to engage users insult problems. So that that's that's the official definition to me. We could see also in the integration of the mechanics that make game funds front in absorbing into non platforms and experience in order to improve engagement and participation because engagement is the key about gimme fixation gave me vision easing agent. And how can we improve engagement for people? Yeah. It's an interesting. It's an interesting topic. I mean I used to. On of leaderboards, which require a lot of fun. But it's it's very interesting because some people are completely demotivated by game. Fixation others absolutely motivated, some people just sort of in between all night, but it's very difficult to actually engage. The people are just see everyone else miles ahead of them. And they get kinda stock in that like oh look at him. Never gonna catch him. You know? And and I think I've seen that because I used to run some some later boards when I used to do Bence using Twitter hashtag are used to create labeled. And I would you know, I would promote it and now use the tweets out function and promote all these people and have it on my website to drive web clicks. Because using in that way, it delivers a tangible return in terms of like the clicks through to your website talkative traffic missiles stuff, but but you know, I'm sure we can of get in. Into that in a minute. But why did you start using game? If occasion in the first place so give him to me little bit naturally could say I used to work Sony for about fifteen years. So may station, I was in charge of marketing communication, and and I can thinking like, you know, you go into shop any type of that sales television, for example, and you have Simpson brand you have LG brand you have Sony brand you have all different type of brands, and you're looking at all these televisions and think at kids thinking how could people decide to go for the Sony brand of being Sony being ma'am ploy at the time? And so it was it was just as we were. Also, the same time launching PlayStation games, and realizing, you know, like when we're trying to games you could spend two hours and then at the end thinking team has already been two hours. How how is that possible? United see time fly and I'm thinking this. Link between the the the fact that you spend two hours and just enjoy yourself and feeling the world is just like, you know, perfect. You'll just capable listening to messages that come from the games or or playing with people abroad on the other side of the world. And so I thought how can we put the two together? So the time it's not calling me fixation. We're talking about two thousand four so as really nobody knew about the nation. And so my thinking was to say, well, maybe I should either engage because the only link for from the person's wallet to the television was the fact that the person will be engaged by the the sales person in the shop. So I was thinking how can I engage the sales people in a way that's fun to them. And so they could just do the same thing with their customers. And that's how we started the first give me think Asian campaigns. I would say court. By engaging more and not not only talking about, you know, money, or which which would be extrinsic motivation, but more about intrinsic motivation, which the autonomy the belonging the mastery the power of the fund the love all these very strong emotions that that that makes fission work. You're talking more about badges because a lot of people tell me over the years, gimme physicians only about badger, and you have bad fatty and all this which is absolutely true because you get bored with extrinsic motivation. So it was really trying to to to engage more into make people more like the brands. So you know, when somebody would face Saudi TV was think a while I really enjoyed the brand Sunni the latest commercials that Sunia put out they they were really good. They really talk to me. And so that's the reason why you would go for a Sony TV. And that's how I started work on as love gaming and. I love marketing. That's that's basically how I got involved with give me Gatien, ROY. So what's so the actual purpose of game vacation is is to engage with whom FA could be internally within the business, right or it could be externally to to drive a desired action is not affair. Komen. Think once the purpose of gimme the Asian again. Gimme fission is all about engagements and Swain. Sure that any type of activity is linked with engagement of you, see and you want people to be engaged. I have examples of gamification campaigns that work on on situations that you would not believe for example, cancer treatments. My family is being hit with answer. And so I did a lot of research to see how Hauer cancer patients convene more yet. And better how their treatment or and how these these day that you play with the Nanno box. You would go around, you know, shooting cancer sales with chemo weapons so kids will go around doing that. So you were saying about your family having having some issues on foot share with with concern. How you come up with? A great idea to game the kill Ryan that while the solution. Of they were it was not my idea. But I found the ideal the web about learning how to to cope with with the disease learning how to cope with the with the chemo going around for this this game. I found was a game. I was really fourteen injures. The had net novado called Rory and the Rory will go around the room and would shoot at stencil sales using chemo weapons you really that game helped well, I to to make sure that cancel has not anymore. Taboo women. You know, obviously were we had problems with to deal with it. But for children was to explain how will work and what the impact on the buddy. And again because it was again. So then it was more. You could. You could try to say it was not as difficult to deal with as if it had been any type of books that you have to read about team. Oh and about cancer. But I thought the fact that you can use gimme -cation for this type of purpose means that you can use it for pretty much everything because then gimme fission helps you engage. Learn ender stance and cope with with situations that are difficult, but because they'll put as game relate also to and that game apparently had lot of success. And I'm wondering why haven't too much more of it. 'cause he was by two thousand ten of write about him on the web. But these are things that you could find in pediatric wards, for example, and that could help children that have to stay in hospitals that, you know, then they could just minimize the impact of disease. Well about the. Yeah. That's that's really quite small actually 'cause children children more susceptible to gamification d think them. The children sort of more in Tom. Well, I would. Yes, they are. They are definitely more involved with because the play a lot. But I would say that the whole population is. Is involved with gamification everybody place. I mean game comes from you know, way before all the time of the dinosaurs. When it comes before culture because when you had the mother dinosaur. She would teach her cubs to to play and what they will learn how to hunt you we have examples also of. It's not a game is not fun. But when Taylor eighteen ninety introduce the bonuses and awards in the reformed factor. That's kind of also that partition right, right? I'm sorry. Okay. So so it's it's, you know, this type of rewards and the bonuses as been as being used for quite a long time. You always had the carrots. Mary poppins. I mean, if I can go and have many examples because that's one of my passions. So, but Mary pumping was the sugar principle sugar makes of medicine go down that that's type of fission as well. Because medicine is not good. It's not fun. But if you make it fun next week with with a spoonful of sugar than that's that gives you mentioned that a. Conference that I went to New York a while back as his true when you think about it. You know, we've all always had that around us. So children are definitely more inclined to react better to give me fission. But adults are as well even older people who say I never play or this is not true. You know, if you're crosswords that's a play. That's the game. Sorry, if anybody will play an anybody would be sensitive to game mechanics. It's just what's very important when you do a vacation campaign is to find the right mechanics or the right people the right time, and that's crucial. But that's pretty much marketing. Yes. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. So. You've you've pretty much it how you can use it. I mean, it motivates people to do something. Right. That's that's that's pretty much pretty much. What it is, isn't it? Yeah. And yet maturity, yeah. So in the beginning, you decide on what sorts of behavior you want to encourage. And then you find the right game to encourage that behavior, and that could be social sharing within IBM, for example, you know, encouraging the stall all on a problem so start again, so that could be for example, working within a corporation and actually getting getting those people to share particular content just to wrap up right on that particular point. It's really just designing the. Outcome you on deciding on the outcome. You one designing the game to encourage behavior towards the outcome since very very simple. It's it's just marketing, right but game firing behavior. So it could be social sharing within a corporation, encouraging internal stakeholders to share content externally, it could be it could be external influences and encouraging them to share content externally all any way. Right. So which which area is best for game affiliation. I would answer all of them seriously. Because when I see my customers, I use fission for a chart how to today and get the employees more productive and inefficient for sales. And that's one. Of the point as well, Salesforce dot com. The big CRM tool is now has now a multiple with gamification inside. Because once the biggest challenge for CR tools is to ensure that old data is entered regularly and proficiently while give me figure is that. You know, you motivate sales people to win with the leaderboard. For example, you guys in UK have greatly lable companies, especially one as know it. And and so you just let them by creating healthy competition, and that's fission because it's it's it's it's fun. It's like well. Yeah. Five points behind you. But I'm gonna get you these type of attitude that get so then marketing and also use imitation because that's how they're going to get the situation from their customers prospects or the the link between the brands and the and the user of the of the brand you're gonna use it in finance to make sure again that you know, finance reports of boring. Sorry say, but it's very difficult to redeem here was giving fission can make them a little bit more attractive. You can make people understand them better. So pretty much every I mean you talking about the. Ineffectually as. For people to get motivated to be more productive. They can also you can also use for example, big boards in the factory where you see where you are at. You've today you created twenty phones you'll neighbors twenty five years these type of things so there's so many ways of motivating people in front way nuts as it is not only about money not the factory, but in rural company. Yet. So so even in factories people can be motivated using vacation, and you know. Being being on a way that they will either Bill faster products, or they will be more engaged. It will have a better time doing so. And so it's overall company, basically, it's not only about money or even more money for people to get mortgage. Because this a work at the end, you you'll get tired, and the, and it doesn't work was if you if you really work on the venues of company or of the employees that you have than fixation can really efficient, and that that's why we always trying to do when we do information campaign. Right. So what what results can you say with game if occasion? So the the results that have seen is basically if normally for marketing campaign you see? A return investment of about ten twelve percents, which is extremely good of. But you know, you have to spend a lot of money for that inauguration campaign. I usually see around twenty twenty five percents of of return of on the compaign the because you going to work with the four principal which are status access power and price, which is is the, where's the most sticky is is basically the status give a status to somebody in the status as in cost much to the company and at the end at the end, you have the price which the prices could be TV car, whatever this very expensive. Probably not remember six months down the line. What campaign the person has done? So if you use the SAP of practice, which also a Kim from exe-, but this is very. Is very good. Because in in marketing, it's something that you can really follow. And the then you return investment is extremely high because costs much to say to somebody. You'll gold your silver, your bras and say P P C's if I could say with that with that us a which is access p which is the power and the second p is the price. So the status is what I mentioned with the gold, silver, or or LeBron's status that you can find in any British Airways plan, you know, any type of of loyalty type of program in the status the status, the beauty of the status is defined as custody thing for you to make somebody become a platinum or gold member is very sticky because the person is proud of being of having that status. And and they will remember the campaign that make them becomes. A bronze over or whatever they have become the access is again, what you can see the when you have access to allow nge when you have access to any VIP treatment, for example, when you check in you have the red carpet treatment when you are when you are gold or platinum again, you know, cost more money because these time they have to have access to something special initiative lounge. They have access to drinks and food if it's the red cow pets of ac-, you know, you have to have a dedicated stuff for it. But it's it's not as expensive as for example, the last one which will see the minute. The third one is the power you give more power to people you become golden, for example. You'll be you'll be invited to a premiere of our products. You'll you'll be able to get a price special prices that before anybody else these of power that you can get your customers prospects and the last one. Is priced which had mentioned is when you get to people say, you'll use our system us come to our to our website or whatever do the survey, and we will give you TV. Oh, we'll give you a car. You know, we'll give a car to the first person. Does it whatever you wanna put as mechanic? So using this for SAP, basically doesn't cost much if you specially if you focus on status and access you can have a little bit of cost when you announce it, and you talk about the you communicate around it. But it's it's where you can see really the best type of results and returns on investments. Because again, it's very powerful. It's it's fishes doesn't cuss. So you can use the any department in any business in in well, marketing, all any other department, right? Absolutely. Any department in any company? Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's that's really interesting where interesting so. Could game if occasion be misused the think nNcholas, yes, I do believe Jimmy fixation the risk, of course of risk of people cheating. But the to the risks are the first one is rewards not violent to achieve Minuit's. Meaning you have to work really hard to get a peanuts. Just as a joke. But you know, you basically need to feel that whatever you do you're going to get the right the right type of chief mounts. And so that's important. The number two when you do gamification campaign, you need to be careful that you're not. That's not limit limited participation and ways, right meaning unite enough people playing so like for his voice, you try to get a survey out, and you only get ten people to participate. It's not relevant for your for what you're trying to do. I mentioned about sheeting. So that's what we mean by an attendant consquences gaming the system and obstinate, especially and sometimes you sit in in very small campaigns. And and people try to win on were her surprise. Because the the the cries or the the what people could get was not that big. And so I was really surprised. People can cheat anywhere. So you need to be very careful about that. And at the beginning of this of this podcast is making sure that you don't end mine intrinsic values and interfere with social norms. Meaning, you know, you have you have social norms, and you need to be very careful that the campaign for those the norms because it's really important or or else pretty much. So yes innovation needs. Everyone can just say I'm gonna give campaign you need reach a good marketing executive was gonna think about all these. But not only marketing executive also somebody who has gaming experience, and who has a user experience using this stuff of of of mechanics. Right. Very interesting. So could you could you give some example gamification that you've used in the past? Yes, sure, I've used it Gatien to acquire new customers and prospects, for example in France with a game where pregnant ladies would go in and win a status with the brand cold day was read interesting because the game was about gathering information of the about the pregnant lady but also making our play in. So you would have a lady on the on the on the chair, and and then the game would be to to see what what's basically inside our ability. I could say so they will use the medical. We have design a medical environments, and the the ladies would be able to play around and see around and see what the babies would be tells size in terms of at what months the lady would have winter on pregnant from what eight than the system to medically would know what size not only the baby. Would be than delay. They will be able to see her baby. Using a scan, you know, a medical device that which will her what the baby would look like. So this one worked really well because after that we could offer also or make some suggestions about clothes for the baby. The baby will come in the next two months of being two months. He's going to be winters in winter. You should have these tackles baby to baby to be cold this type of thing. So that there was one of the example, I mentioned to you about the other example, used with with the TV's when I sewed in the end, we use that the media, many other examples, so you you can gain a fi anything, basically, you can have campaigned about increasing traffic and communicates on products of which which I did regularly can also for called met close. We did the be the buyer and again, so the clothes will be. Presented to to you at the using a reality. You can see would look like in the cause is so many examples that that you could use that as I said could talk for hours. So what are the pros and cons of gamification? The pros is really focusing on engagement. That's that's to me the best way of engaging engaging people. It's extremely important for any type of tippety as as we mentioned. So it's it's it's it's extreme important the cones again, as we mentioned, you could have people gaming the system, but I'm very concerned because I see a lot of people saying, oh, Gimmie physicians only about badges and points and actually extrinsic extrinsic sorry motivation like the carrot and stick approach is not sustainable, you have the batch fatigue. It's it's it's really will not work. So it's re. Really important that this cones, you know, our voided in making sure that these, you know, you focus on the meeting of a campaign, meaning of a of a brand learning around the brand, but you can learn what what you need to have you can grow with that the self knowledge of the fund now the power mastery belonging, the autonomy. All these points are extremely important to make sure that these gives you kitchen campaign is is is transformed into a positive experience. So LeBron's you have. But I believe that if you do what? Well, then the pros are definitely bigger than the cons. Yeah. Sounds like that from the return on investment. So could you find gamification everyday online tools? Yes today. More companies are investing in unification. It's more Anglo-Saxon companies than than the rest of the world. For example, the mentioned before Salesforce dot com. Is now using giving Gatien the and you can you have a whole module based on that. So it's it's part of the year of your product. There is a company in the US co batch veal which was then bought by SAP not longtime ago and the SAP NASA badge via was basically a gamification headphone company. So. Oh, yes. You've seen you have to companies in the US badge villain bunch bowl. Reggie now is SAP until when you think about SAP as a huge brand. And the company was some big products using now gimme fission in pretty much all of products as well. So it's it's becoming more and more in. It's true that because of now what you can see with the generation I call them degeneration Jeep young kid young bone around the year two thousand generation g for Google or give me fission. That's what like to say. But this I didn't mention the grew up was video games. They're getting to the positions now or entering the markets of the work markets. And you know, they are replacing boomers least my my generation and for the first time as they grow up with that was video games of unity important decisions around society policies indication, and and so on and the it's not the kind of audience that we had in mind when when we were talking about games, but this is the reality. These people now are going to use gamification because they were raised with game consoles some of them were taught to read using again council. So the mechanic is essential to that. That's why give going to be seen more and more with everyday tools. And that's why you know today. SAP Salesforce, all the companies are are getting involved in it, very interesting. Yeah. I've seen a us a Spanish app for learning Spanish, and and it's it's fantastic guy before that as well. And it really motivates you I've had a break into busy with recording content. But it's it's it's amazing. How it actually encourages you to do things? After education e health any type of candidates. Gimme fiction because gimme fish is not only but also mechanics. It's also about adding game like. Instead IX around around an application on something for an older person. Or even somebody like me, you'll be more sensitive to to something that comes that's easier to use. And that has great callers in six that's the issues while rowing fantastic. With us ready ready useful? So a thing we're gonna move on and talk about data and technology. So it's it's big big big topic. Right. As of. As. A few questions hit we sort of head. So with data J always talking online offline data so to me, and we're talking about both online and offline because today. Data is available. Everywhere you go, for example. You go from one place another you have GPS attracts us mobile phone that tracks. You you go. We use a connected device. You've a trace of with internet of things you buy a line. You leave a trace mail a trace. But even if you if you move from one place to another, and you don't use GPS on his phone is off as a lot of if once you rive at the at the new place, you're going to get you're gonna be able to use a flying data. And it's the combination of online and offline that's gonna make very very powerful way of of analyzing all the data. Yeah. I mean, it's ridiculous figure the amount to this being produced every day is something it's just ridiculous. Isn't it with drowning in this in this Deitz, but that's like another? That's a whole conversation on its own. But. Massive isn't a so what is open data. So data is what governments are putting are developing. These days regarding administrative data being available for everyone. So for example, if you want to know how many books are your library of your your public library in your in your town in your town. Or if you to know how many? Red lights or how many traffic lights are involved in though. I mean, I mean accidents in both around traffic lights, whatever information that is collected today by your government, according to European lows at least is needs to be available on the to twenty one. So that's why open data is very important because you now have access to online of line open all these type of information that before nobody had a clue about and so you can make any type of you up to any type of disruptive tool using all these data. Wow. That's interesting. Yeah. I mean, it's it's very interesting. What they're doing ever in New York in city with data ahead, actually, the New York City government, if you want to open a retail outlet, they will actually help you to choose a retail outlet based upon the dates source that they have on that. Particular outlet that stool, for example, will have, you know, a such a number of people going paused, but they will also know who those people are demographic wise, and if there's another coffee shop, for example, say you opening a coffee shop if there's another coffee shop within a short distance how you know that Martin obey the outlet for your business. So that's quite interesting. I find it very in how it can actually affect business. So what what marketing techniques used data than Nicklaus? So will go to Guinea pig Asian, but obviously give -cation use use data marketing techniques that used Itta is really what we call predictive antics today. You know, we've gone from a overall. Marketing which is only four for mass marketing into a personalized marketing when you have such a vegan amount of data's you mentioned before which is absolutely unbelievable. The the the marketing will be able to use the past get some unofficially until engines. Programs around and being able to then calculate what's going to happen in in in the future or could be tomorrow. It could be months it could be it could be the year. And he's based on everything. This is why I wanted to mention about daytime because open date can also see have an impact on that. But the marketing techniques, that's really important. This is really is really this predictive which will allow companies to predict when customers will need the planet. What type of putting they will need what kind of price they will need. We will be able to make a link because open date is also about whether they so whether that they was really rainy, and we saw that the base on rain. And based on the fact that he was the full season than we were able to sell more of these trousers of all of these glasses. Or whatever. So this is where marketing is going to play a role in a much bigger role than any today because to the marketing onto the until the last five years marketing was about guessing what the market will will like what people would like was here going to be able to be much much more precise about monkey needs and about about putting development. So at least you won't get any more issues around providing the right number of Rx because that's also a big problem when factory or or when you when you try to plan ahead of what the what you need to older. And so here, they did marketing techniques that will basically be the most important of for these use of data to predictive. Yeah. Yeah. No. I agree. A hundred percent or that all of that is is so so interesting for businesses and all for the entire supply chain when you look at the food supply chain. I mean, I think that they're saying that the food supply chain will benefit from like a fifteen percent doctrine in costs, which is fascinating. Because it may it means they'll be able to provide. Let me how to put this provides information on you know, how much water the crop needs which parts of the field, the needs vitamins and minerals, reflects risers eccentric cetera that adds up to the consumer benefiting. And also, you know, we will be able to have not solve the homelessness problem in the hunger problem in the world, but we need to do more to help the needy. You know, not good. Absolutely. We're going to be able to optimize the resources and the key. That's the key. Is this new a new data approach? Absolutely. Yeah. So we sort of talked around around it, but how how can Dieter technology go together? Then so technology is fed with data. So technology had to evolve in the data to become so important. So for example, and we'll talk about that. Just after I believe a little bit later on. But like big data, and the all these type of technology have were invented because they became so important and people started to realize we always known that that was important, but people starting to realize that data had value, but it's much much more than we ever thought. You know, data has value because we know how many customers we have well that that's great. It's really important to have that. But as you mentioned, the optimization of resources, the making sure that these we don't throw away anything anymore that we don't you know, that we everything is done in a in a very professional and efficient way can only be done with the technology data going together. So that's why is important to to mention that is today because of all the disruption that we've seen with startups and with all the destructive. Approaches that we've seen we are capable of getting something that is so powerful and the top of the I ankle around it official diligence angle around it, obviously, you're going to get something much better. That's early. With with with a oh using data. How how how does that kinda work? So basically, you will get data which I would say is a fact what I mean by will be be very clear because I know a lot of people are scared of tissue diligence and not talking about replacing Uman and talking about Uman of mounted the it's not my it's not my sentence. It's something that that's out there, and it's been out there for a while. But it's basically being able to now Uman to make better decisions based on the lot of data than alone. We would not be able to today's decisions on on talking about like, for example, doctor or surgeon deniable to look at all the possibilities. You know with factual data. But also is a an algorithm around it with which is our official intelligence, and that will be able to show him all the different up. Options. And then at the end, we always need the human to make a decision, but at least human will make a decision better decision because he will have more information, and we'll be able to process more information. And that's what I mean by you know, using data is the mall data. We have the bidder has going to be. And it's the same thing today when we see Google when you g mail anything the more you use it more precisely becomes now pretty much all my replies on genial only use the power of algorithms that Google offers. So it's becoming so cleared in really matches. What I like to do. And how we and the words I like to use. So it's becoming really good and using g mail for years and years, but I find it. Now extremely powerful. And it's helping me, you know, rather than writing an Email. There's gonna take even one minutes. It takes me ten seconds. Then it can do can do. The rest fifty seconds can do something better or can end it in a better way. Yeah. Made it goes it goes back to what they said about the industrial revolution. And and actually we are in the industrial revolution. With just would just starting to see the benefits really interns of our working hours in your in France. And they have a thirty five hour working week. I mean, wow, I'd love one of those. Yeah. Because I can you. That's why whatever any thirty five hours. They look you up or something if you will. That's brilliant. I salute. But some surreally about making sure that the data that you're collecting is is is very quality and annoying. What you will not die to fall. And actually just a Nusa being careful with without dieters. Well, I mean security's another big topic. We're not gonna go into right now. But so what's his predictive analytics than nNcholas yet? As just mentioned predicted unedited is the use of factual data that is collected through open data through in anything that basically you put in in any company will will collect. So the data coming from finance from HR from sales from marketing, you know, only companies used to have data just sidled one area of for for in nut every every type of departments will basically share that the. Here. We're talking about getting all the data together. So that's that's the factual data. Historical data that data that has gone through and analyzing its around of very powerful algorithm to ensure that at least you predict what's going to happen in your in new business, so predictive, and that it takes cannot happen for startup as just being around for six months, for example. I guess I guess, but in terms of in terms of big companies have been around for a long time and want to transform their business. And that's why we talk about digital transformation is using the data. That's been available for years and years and years and making sure that these behind it, we put some some value, which means like, okay, I want to another is every January. What sales we've done. Do. We have a plan that makes sense in the sense. That is pretty much. Every every January pretty much always the same. Same about sent products. We sold. What do the salespeople doing January what? Marketing people in January. Do we have a lot of people were seeking January? All this type of information that every company has I mean, even like what do people come in the office in January because you badge? So you get all these type of permission. And then you think about what you wanna see next January the following January and everything, and then you put in place based on data strategies saying, okay, I see that every January. My stuff is has the flu just something out of just thinking about it my stuff as the fruit every January, and I have a very high percentage of people not being around. Well, then guess what? Next january. I'm gonna put in place a flu vaccination. You see? So this of inflation. I mean, obviously, this is very simple when it just said, it could go much much further on in terms of analysis of here's to make sure that everybody understands that. Now, the every single department will be sharing that they than the the the seal the head of HR whoever would be able to make decision based on on on data that has been used in. That is you know, looking forward to to what you want. Yeah. Plug in social media, Deitz weather data everything else, which absolute which is gonna help you to actually understand what you know to predict what you need to buy your resources, you need to allocate to whichever department actually needs the information. And yeah, I think I think it's fantastic inched. Have I also have another example actually of a customer that helped doing a digital transfer? Mission in each we were able to analyze the data coming from social networks like for example, Mindy Lincoln and king of looking at that we were able to tell when people would come in. So number one, you can say before the interview what people have done in the past. And what people said about them, which company they worked for his Inc. Mitch is this if he's are in order, but one person one HR director that I worked with was telling me that it's so careful is that now we know before even the person knows when they're going to get building their job because we've analyzed all the data onto Lincoln and realize that am saying sorry. It's it's not the exact truth ear, but I'm just giving an example. So they'd say, for example in three years time, we know that this person's gonna get bold. So we're gonna put a carry in carry path in in for him or her saying that you know in the next two years. Gonna train them to do something else. So be the person is bored because you can see trends like this. You can see people, you know, they leave jobs after two years three years of Ennahli repeats itself, though, is this predictive analytics, you plan ahead, and you make sure at least or even if you don't want this person to do to change jobs at three years when you add stop talking to them and say, you know, is there anything you would like to change or get you we add some more on civilities to whatever in order to make sure that the person would was stay will leave the company three years. Yeah. Exactly in just tweak tweak what's going on to suit them? So he returns that belong. Yeah. Not in an yeah. So we'll tease big data on how can anyone use it? So big data is a big that Abass. Basically, it's a little bit technology non structured data where we called normally new. No excuse for not only well because that Abass is normal that could kill them normal or s q base, which is a sequences in here. They are not as well that basis which means that you can enter the information in the amount. The gem of daytime there's no limit to it technologies. Limit. But the thing is getting giving review is known admits getting data into the newest keel that and then you structure, it's in order to get to get the analysis that you want so productivity sees the INS is any type of analysis. You get it out in form with clusters in general of an in. So you stop doing all the beginning of assist like this. That's what we call the data because the amount of data is enormous compared to what we used to be able to do that big day can come from any. How do I put this any? Activities. So it could be from an internet of things censor the the the of Ping's y'all Ruta then gathers dates or could be from your I watch the has running e c j I want four does e c j so so then you'll iphone knows that, you know, your heart rate is too high. And if you don't calm down that you gotta have like a problem. So it tells you to calm down. Basic can be from anywhere as it could be, you know, the websites that you'll visiting it could be how much time you spend on your phone. It can go even beyond the cons. It can go to you know, you being tracked as an individual in marketing. So you go to a certain shopping center nine know that you're actually in the oil looking a pair of shoes that you look at a line, and then they can send you voucher, right, for example on potentially. Yes. But today, you have you have a very strong European lows about the protection do you too? But it just depends the ends on the company RAI and their policies. Absolutely. What you've what you've signed up for a main. I block a lot of stuff collecting Daito may cause I want. I don't I write everyday. I might sure very careful without because I one loads of personalized advocates trying to persuade me to. But other people enjoy that other people actually want not because it makes their life easier because they don't have to remember they looked to website, and they wanna buy something because they go interrupted. So it all depends on the individual, right? And absolutely. And what you want? That's some meeting today was technology and data is you can do what feels right to you. Again. We very protected in Europe. If you go to China, or whatever, you know, protected at all they have. Hundred millions of of cameras around feeling all the time in China. And you can't say anything jump even access. You Dato anything us in Europe. We do have access to all the time. We can say no, we don't want that. You mentioned I every night before I go to bed. I actually go to Google activity as I don't want. I don't other people to use it. If you find it then Oviously the technologies today that definitely somebody can check where you are. And what you do, and they can offer you what you probably don't even knew yourself going to that Trump you gonna want. Exactly, exactly. But then, but that it's like what kinda mess up with your brain. We actually need to be using brains here. So let's kind of just Cape Cape perhaps in all on phone, but let's not let it control alive. Let's actually tight the time to. Thank our selves instead of letting technology run a lives not. That's another another story as well. Isn't it read a, but Kanye abso we've kind of told quite low about how you can use big Deitz? Right. But that Ramin. There are many many ways to use it spice. It starts off with what will outcome day. One Nannu decide what data you need to collect in order to make the outcome happen. More seamlessly. I mean, not pretty simple way of explaining it. Right. Yeah. Absolutely. Simple way for company to put it in place for any and all like you. And I, you know, there's no point because you really need to get a lot of data. Yeah. But for company zits. Absolutely. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So so what's Tiffany's used big data that today? It's it's it's pretty much everything. I mean e commerce uses big data big time. If I could say digital marketing politics that use big data the press use big data insurance. Thanks, the press is using data. And it's it's pretty recent what they do is also to ensure that they don't have fake news raw. Because then the was the big data, you can cross a lot of information coming from a lot of places, and for example, QC that the stools comes always from the same place geographically than you know, to be very careful about the formation of the depresses is actually is actually pretty recent insurance banks use the data of let's say that you have a car accidents. And you know, the insurance that you you were the pub just before as very likely that you've been drinking since like that. So so that they could also get the data of the I'm just saying that it's potentially possible. But again with the with the data protection rights, it's it will not happen today. Indication uses also data human resources medical. I mean, pretty much every single activity that you see on the on the, and it's it's really won't people to feel that this cared of. When they hear the data when you hear about the official intelligence, it's it's really to improve and again to to optimize resources by getting various sources around of daytime. That's why imported it's true that if it's misused, and I think I'm going over probably to the to to the questions after, but if it's misuse could be potentially very dangerous. But was the knows that we have in place and the and the way we handling it. I think it's today we see more pros and cons to be honest with you. Yeah. I mean, we as consumers won't things to be cheap. We won't things to be easy. And that's the only way for us to actually get what we want. So, you know. Thinking I think you know, there's we could talk about ours. I think we should at some stage took about mole. But for now, that's that's absolutely fantastic repre- oil time, and if people wanna get hold of you, how would they find you nNcholas can find me on Twitter nickel Chattan thirty three or confined meal? Lincoln on they'll there's also not Wiki pedia. Okay. Great. What I will lamb ultra Lincoln there so serve on from Kentucky. And thank you. So been has been very interesting. Thanks so much for listening. Please subscribe, and wherever you prefer share with your friends, and if you joined the show drops review on I tunes or wherever you listen.
Recently Preached: Determined to Conquer Opposition
"Hey, I'm Linden. And this is the James McDonald podcast. Did you know that you can help? This message get in front of more people by subscribing rating and reviewing the podcast right now. Of course, you knew that because everybody says that for more information resources give us a call eight five eight one nine six seven three or visit walk in the word dot com. We hope today's message encourages you. Let's jump into God's word together. The series is called determined. And the title of message today on not a message. I would choose to give probably at any season in ministry that never seems to be good time to teach on this. But it's so wonderful to teach through God's word because it brings us what we need when we need it. And the title of message today is determined to conquer opposition determined to conquer opposition. Because some people are so thin skinned that they take every little a point of resistance as something a sobering an ominous. I need to be very clear when I say that opposition if you're experiencing it in your marriage in your family in your business in your ministry. Anything you're trying to build anything you're trying to achieve by opposition. I don't mean a complication sometimes people do things and things happen. And you're facing things that you didn't see coming and. That's not opposite. Just complication happens all the time. And I'm also not talking about competition where in certain segments. There's two people even legitimately at times that want the same thing, and you have to go against and beat the competition. There's things competing for your kids time there things competing spouses affections, there's things competing with us for market share and for ministry opportunity, and I'm not that's not what I'm talking about. When I say opposition, not complication not competition. I'm not talking about criticism criticism. It'd be very helpful even when it's not well intended and people who have a negative feedback for us make us better the ones that say it nicely and the ones that say it unlikely that a word. I should've I should've prepared that sentence more carefully. And those who say unkindly, that's what word right good. I like to stay on it. If I can't. He's like I don't like when you do that. That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about that probably wasn't awesome. And a little bit of criticism isn't a problem. Even a lot of it isn't a problem. That's not what I'm talking about. When I'm talking about opposition here. It is opposition is people who want you to fail. Opposition as people who want you to lose oppositionist people who don't maybe even have a thing. But their thing is you not having a thing. I may never have your spouse. But I don't want you to have them. I may never have your business. But I want your business to fail. I don't think I could do what you do. But I don't like the way you do it. And I'm going to stop you from doing it. That's what I'm all about opposition. And lest we have any illusions about the reality of opposition. I'd be surprised if you do. But if you do listen Christian. Satan and his demonic host. If the company of angels is innumerable in the bible says it is innumerable. And if a third of those angels fell as Isaiah fourteen seems to say, what's a third of innumerable. There may be more demonic beings in the universe than there are human beings currently alive, and they're not sitting around playing cards Satan and his demonic host and the human army that they control are actively involved in opposing the people of God and the work of God not because they care a lick about you or me, but because they deceit to disgrace and to discredit our savior. And so the opposition is real, and we have seen it and you have seen. Knit and Nehemiah is seeing it an interesting what Alan Redpath that former pastor moody. I've been so enjoying his book during this study and. He's the one that said that the book of Nehemiah is the greatest book in all of scripture on the subject of achievement for God service to God, no surprise then. That is also the greatest teaching in all of scripture on opposition to that achievement. Yes. It is. And. Reality is if you attempt to do something for God with your life. You will experience opposition now. I don't have hardly ever taught on this. The only passage that. I can think of that even really brings it up is way way way way back in our series. Lord, changed my attitude. Fifteen sixteen few of you were here for that. Fifteen sixteen seventeen years ago, we talked about the children of Israel and their criticism against actually Miriam and Aaron criticized Moses and complained against him and the children visceral followed suit with their murmuring. But all the bible really says is that God hears it, it's wrong. But here in this passage, we get a seven insights into the subject of opposition. I may only get to six of them today. If you're ready to jump into God's word say jump here. It is number one. Verbal opposition. Remember not criticism. Somebody say, I get it real opposition people who seek your demise. Your failure your. Ruin. Verbal opposition will be increasingly personal and harmful. Now, let me say at the outset that I need you to speak six times in this message. It comes at the ever at the end of everyone of my points. It would mean so much to me after a long week of preaching, my heart out in Israel and delong flight back and a lack of clarity about what time it really is. It would mean a lot if you would rule in with me not just here on this campus, but on all the campuses, and if you would finish these sentences with me, I'm going to say the opening part, then I'm gonna use the word, but and then I want you to finish the point. That's in your notes. Can we try at once? Come on. Now. Don't make me do it twice. Nothing. Worse than the good morning. I said good morning guy where people get onboard second time. No second time here at harvest first time, let's go. Verbal opposition will be increasingly personal and harmful. But. Love love that. So into the text Nehemiah four one now win San ballot heard that we were building the wall. Well, one of the things that your momma might have taught you is when people are really truly opposing you here. It is right at down. Consider the source. Hands up. If you've heard that before consider the source. All right. Let's do that just for a second a little more on sand. Ballot. His name is Babylon, Ian, so he is from Babylon. He's not a Jew. He's from actually Beth horror on about thirty miles north west of Jerusalem. But of course, the Babylonians during the captain, David Di we're holding the land hostage, and he was born to Babylon. Ian parents interestingly, we know from history several archaeological discoveries forty years later this same sand. Ballot a became the governor of Samaria. And why is he so opposing the one that our tags irks? He's made the governor of Judah. Israel. Probably because he wanted the job was he jealous was he resentful. Did he think it was coming to him? Was it his aspiration? And when someone else got it that he wanted to go about showing how the decision to give it to Nehemiah was a wrong one. It's possible. His two sons actually have. Israeli or Hebrew names. Possibly hit become a worshiper of y'all way. We know in chapter thirteen verse twenty eight that. San ballots family mem-, married into the high priest family right there in Jerusalem. So he was networking and he wanted the position at the top. So much so often that's what's behind opposition people who didn't get what they felt was coming to them. Now in send ballot heard making note of that heard. Opposition normally comes from those who are very close to us. I should say opposition. Normally doesn't come from people who are very close to us. Usually it involves hearing not knowing usually involves rumor not fact, and so it's not different here. San valid is doing all of this just because of things he heard now in San ballot heard that we were building the wall. He was say it was angry and greatly enraged and he jeered at the Jews. I'd like to try to act out those three things for you. He was I have no idea how to do that. He was he was angry. And greatly enraged. Doing. Well, you're strong very strong and come on get it out get it out, and he will be easier. And he jeered. At the Jews. What's up with him? Knows entirely sure. Verse two that'll go pretty quickly to talking inherit comes. And he said in the presence of his brothers and of the army of Samaria. Oh, by the way, that's the hardest part of opposition. It's not what people's is not who says it's not what they say. It's always where they say it or who hears it. The darkest part of Christ's sacrifice was not the shame. But the publicity of the shame. It's the publicizing of the shame that. Causes the great heartache. Now, everyone's hearing your thoughts. Now, everyone's listening to this nonsense. Somehow he found a way to make his opinion public and he said in the presence of his brothers and of the army of Samaria, this is San ballot. Notice. Now, he's he's breaking bad notice. His descent, what are these feeble Jews doing point there is that they're weak? Now look up here for a second. In a lot of this stuff. There's always that half truth, right? That kind of truth taken and turned half are the Jews in this big project of rebuilding the wall. Are they strong or weak? Come on their week there. We did this big job as a massive job. Do they have enough people? Can they get it done? But of course, he's he's pronouncing premature conclusions there too weak to do the job. He says we'll they restore it for themselves. What's that that's questioning their motives, see it in the text? Well, even if they do get it done. They just want it done for themselves. Will they sacrifice? They don't have what it takes. They're not willing to go the distance. Boys. It's all there, isn't it? Will they finish up in a day? They haven't properly calculated what it's going to take hands up forty and older forty and older hands up come on. All right. If if boys so proudly holding them up so proudly over forty good for you. Hold the hand hold them high. Okay. No, not again, not again. Boy, everyone over forty is very excited about their age here this morning. So I mean half the time. I'm like if you're breathing. Raise your hand if people like. Remember a time when you were younger remember time when you had a dream remember time when you saw the things undone in purpose to do them and remember the people older than you that came along and said, you don't have what it takes. You can't go the distance. You don't care enough. You're not gonna pour your all into it. You're too young to understand you can't possibly get that done. That's so awful one of the beautiful things about being younger. Is not knowing all that you'll face. How many people would have signed up for a lifetime of marriage? If they knew what it would take to go the distance. How many people would have signed up if they actually understood the whole point is that they did it. No. And that is why they jumped in someone say praise God, let's purpose in ourselves that we're not going to be those people those people raining on the dreams and aspirations of those who have more years in front of them than we do. Let's celebrate their positive believing. Delighted capacity to make a significant contribution. And let's cheer them on toward those kind of victories in our church in our school in our student ministry. Man, this send ballot guy is the worst feeble Jews there too weak to do it for themselves. They have bad motives. You know, look at the rest of it will they revive the stones out of the heaps. In other words, they don't have the resources the city had been burned. That's part of what happens in captivity much of. What was built was from limestone? Limestone is weakened by fire. The burned ones there at the end of verse two so they're inferior building materials. Then then this guy toe by the amanite was beside San ballot. So as soon as he ran out of things to say toe by there's always there's a comedian in every crowd right here. He comes. Yes. Bursary? What they are building. If a FOX goes up on it. He'll break down the stonewall. Yeah. That didn't go over big last night in rolling meadows. Either that's supposed to be a joke. Sometimes the only people that are laughing are the people who are wishing for failure. Now, what's he gonna do opponents consistently avoid interactions, that might shed light on their darkened, intentions or expose their intended goal? This is from Harry Ironside. He said when the people of God cleave to his word and exalt his name. They need fear. No, enemy, human or supernatural. So it's just getting started. It's just verbal opposition. But notice how it's becoming increasingly personal when people can't get you to quit. They'll get off the job you're doing and they'll get onto you personally. Look at her. Who does he think he is dawn and on and on and on it goes, here's the second thing. Really ready to do your part loved ones ready verse or second thing starting in verse four tell God what you need and why? But. Thank you. So good. Look at verse four interesting Nehemiah dozen refute them try to get them to stop. We don't see him doing anything except this. He goes to prayer. Are you hearing this God? Are you hearing the things that they're saying? Here. Oh, our God for we are despised. Turn back there. Taunt on their own heads. And give them up to be plundered in a land where their captives in other words, they haven't been where we've been they don't know what we know. They haven't suffered what we've suffered. They never been taken captive. They've never sand balanced never been taken captive a day in his life. Toe by a dozen have a clue what it's like to be plundered see everything that you've worked for burned to the ground. And have it all taken from you by force? How could they possibly understand us? God, maybe if you could give them a little bit of what you're allowed us to go through. They'd have a better understanding of the impact of their words. Now, some bible commentators have a big of a hard time with this. And they read this and they're like. Should he really be praying? This. Is this a Christian prayer? Is this a Christian thing to ask God? To put on my enemies on my opponents one out. Have you heard of imprac Ituri songs? There are many of them some examples some sixty nine so I'm seventy nine portions of some one thirty nine are called impracticably psalms. There were David prays effectively this quote. Get him. God god. And quote. It'd be very hard to come to the conclusion that it is wrong to pray that way. But one of the beautiful things about the word of God. Is it doesn't have to endorse as ideal every word of prayer dispense with the notion that all that you pray must be perfectly formed less. God's ears. Hear what he already knows to be in your heart and mind. Sometimes prayer the process of working through how I truly feel until I feel better about it. And it surely is not wrong to say God, I want to do some things to these people you handle it and here on my suggestions. I think it's actually an awesome thing to say to God. Keep in mind that this isn't personal. They're not attacking me because I scratched their car. They're not attacking you because you kissed their daughter on the first date. It isn't personal God you called me to this work. They don't like the rebuilding of the wall. They don't want the city restored. You called me to do it you resource to me to do it. They don't like it. Now, they're coming. At me. You say vengeance is yours. You need to handle this God. You need to take care of this and giving it to you. I'm giving it to those whom you've established. We're not going to stop working. But verse five gets more intense. Don't cover their guilt. Let not their sins be blotted from your site that doesn't mean don't let them be forgiven. It means don't forget it's asking for a positive and negative form. Keep looking at this God, please don't take your eyes off of this. They have provoked you to anger in the presence of your builders. We're here trial in hand carrying the stones mixing concrete laying the stones in the wall. And they are making it harder. How be if we do our job God. And you do yours. We don't think we're God. We're not trying to be God. We'll just do the thing you assigned to do. But could you could you keep looking at this? Could you take care of it? I challenge you to pray before the end of today in regard to whatever opposition you're facing in your life. Someone who's intruding on your family someone who seeking to tear down your career someone who seeking to hinder your ministry. I challenge you to pray this way today, and you know, how we pray alone on our knees. Kneeling down out loud with list, pretty like this. Do it today. Trey what you need John. I need you to handle this. And then pray why you need it. What you need got. I need you to handle this. And why you need it. God, I can't be stopped in the work. The work is too important. The thing you've called me to let me do what I'm called to do. And you take care of what your calls the handle, please. God what a beautiful prayer. We're kicking off our closer campaign. All fall, we're headed in a couple of weeks toward challenging every person on every campus to make a four part pledge in their testimony in their time in their talent in their treasure worship, walk work witness. This is going to be the largest movement forward in the history of our church, a lady stopped me last night after the service and said to me she said we come here on Saturday nights. Because the church that she goes to I won't say where I don't want the church to be identified, but she just said very small very broken down. Very struggling into efforts that we have made to start a ministry to women to start an outreach for children. You can't believe how much the people want the status quo. And she thanked me for the message. And I thought to myself those of you've been around here for decades and not years when did we ever vote for status quo? We're always next next more ground for God. More fruit for the Lord Morelos, people one more more more more more for the Lord and for his glory. So many say more and with our passionate pursuit of more. Why because the book of Hebrews says on almost every page. This is not your rest. This is not heaven. This is a brief window of time to work for the savior Jesus said work for the night is coming when no man can work, and we are not leading you poorly. When we invite you to look to your time to look to your testimony to look at your treasure to look at your talents and ask yourself can. I do more for the Lord's. Let me ask you as we were singing Hallelujah only moments ago, what was greater the song or the savior. Where we overdoing it where we praising him too much is he not worthy of all that we have given and more and in our pursuit of more. Have we recognized as a fact that with the pursuit of more? We'll always come the opposition. I remember the very first campaign in the history of our church. Nine thousand nine hundred ninety four a man named ROY Graham key, one of the founders of our church long with the Lord. Found a warehouse on highway fifty three I was in the meeting where he was so excited and laid down the idea in front of the leaders, then and I saw the church treasurer, not an elder. Criticize the idea ridicule. The idea too big you don't need that much space. What kind of church ever needed that much space? Today. Twenty three or four years later. We have ten times that amount of space is vision was too small and he get up and he stormed out. I can say this about him because he's in having to. So somebody say he's having a good day and then praise God no judgment for him. But he was later in life and the older you get the more you're tempted to play it safe. Why risk everything that we've accomplished so far to get a little more done for the Lord? Can we just phone it in for a few years? The answer is no that days never coming. Here. We are doing all we can and for his glory and being refined in the process and dealing with. What comes in the process? More for Jesus left for me more Lori for him more fruit for him or work for him. More students for him more worship for him. More ministries for him and for his glory on every campus, and listen and more campuses. More more coming more lost people more dark places. More more people who are not within driving distance of what's happening here in this room. The morning. We only get one play life. And again, I'll say you're not being led poorly, given the brevity of life and the length of eternity to be challenged to look into all that you have and how you're using it for God's glory come on say Amen now. That hearted support really lifted my spirits. That did kind of feel like clapping time. Amen. In. It's hard to lead. But I respect that person's effort. I could go through the remainder of our campaigns and tell you how during vision two thousand. During seize the opportunity. During the five G campaign. From the book of Nehemiah every time. God's people say arise. Let us build. The enemy says arise and let us tear down. What God is building. And there will always be the send ballot and toe by a ponds whom the enemy can lay hold of to move into position to try to discourage those. Who are called of God. Tell God what you need in why. But don't stop working, then this expect the attack to move from verbal to active opposition. Expect it expect it. What was that little kids poem? We're taught sticks and stones will break my bones. But words, how many people learned words? I learned names. It's the same idea who learned names names will never hurt me words will never hurt me there. Several iterations of it that's been around for two hundred years sticks and stones will break my bones. But names will never hurt me. That's one of the kid was on the playground or some other kid who was loud mouth thing. The problem is is sometimes it is sticks and stones. That's where it goes. And that's where it goes here. Verse seven so. By when send ballot until by and the Arabs and the watch. What's what? As the work of God is multiplying the enemies of God are multiplying to now. It's not just a few guys, but all the people following them when send ballot until by and the air of the ammonites NBA Ashi Deitz in the termites. I heard that the repairing of the walls of Jerusalem was going forward. What they're not gonna stop. Our words didn't hinder them when they heard that the work was going forward into breaches. The breaches were beginning to be closed. They're making progress. They were very what? Yeah. All right. All right. Wouldn't it? Be awesome opposition just fell away when you showed your determination. Not to stop working. But here it comes verse eight and they all plotted together. They all plotted together to come and fight against Jerusalem and to cause confusion in it. How's that a plant? Well, causing confusion is a plan. If you don't want to get any work done, you're all parked in rows. You're all sitting in rows. Everything is very organized to get a lot done. But people who don't want to get anything done want to cause confusion. You're like, well, what will that get done that will get nothing done? And that's their goal just for the work to stop. They're not trying to rally to a different 'cause they're not trying to get you to another place. I've pastored long enough in one church to be able to say this. People who get people to leave churches don't care a lick about you. You're a trophy. That they're wrong is right for five minutes. But because it isn't right. They'll cast you aside. They're not going to care for you. They're not gonna get you into small groups. They're not going to rally to serving the Lord. They're not going to challenge. You to go deeper, and how many people in a foolish moment. Forfeit. What meant so much to them in some kind of silly protest not rooted in any reality. And then come to regret it and wished they hadn't been so foolish and so do PT when they realize that all they wanted was to cause confusion. And how often have we sent hundreds and hundreds of people away from our church to plant at your tier two plans at your tier two plan to church here. It's a wonderful thing when God's people are rallied and called to a new wall that needs building. But that's not the fruit of opposition intended to cause failure. I've seen it enough to be able to say it. And how sad it is. It's not the bombs going off overhead. It's not the noise of the conflict. It's when the bombs start landing second World War. Coventry England small town two hundred and forty eight thousand people bigger than a town. I guess but a small city. But a city filled with a ton of tool and die workers and. Ton of factories a perfect place to manufacture, munitions and planes for the second World War. No surprise, then that as the Germans got desperate. They dropped one hundred and ninety eight tons of bombs on Coventry. In the late summer and fall of nineteen forty. But then on. November the fourteenth. They dropped five hundred tongues in one day. Countless lives lost. And the people wanted to quit. The war was starting to turn. They they felt there was a chance that maybe the Nazis wouldn't take over all of Europe ended seemed as though the efforts we're going to succeed, but the bombs destroyed the remaining resolve of the people and everyone wanted. To give up. So devastating was that single day of bombing that Goebbels the. Propaganda chief of Nazi Germany would call subsequent efforts. We coven trade that city we Coventry that city. And what I love about Winston Churchill's response is. He didn't say very much. But he went to work. A man already exhausted in the work turned it up another level. It wasn't until almost a year later in October of nineteen forty one. Just now a few. More years until the war would end completely. But things were really beginning to turn a year later when Churchill went to Harrow school a school that he had attended to listen to the. Music of his childhood and. Went off script for the lengthy speech. He had planned urban legend says that this speech was just a few words. It was actually quite a lot. I gotta tell the truth at church, but the part that has stood out to history and has been morphed as though he only just stood up and said these things and sat down which is not really the case. But the lines stood out so strongly history is trying to remember that. It's all he said. Never give in never give in never never never never never never give in and he sat down. And the war turned. On the strength of its leaders who challenged the people to prioritize what matters and make the decision. Not to give up. This is why we're still talking about Nehemiah all these months and years later. Yes. Expect the attack to move from verbal to active opposition. But don't stop working. Now. This four four ready to help me for others will be affected respond to their fears. But. All right. And they all applauded to come together to fight against Jerusalem verse eight and to cause confusion in it here. It is again same response, and we prayed to our God. But wait, not just praying and set a guard as a protection against them day and night. In judah. It was said right there in the province where they're building in Jerusalem. Jerusalem is like the capital Judah is like the state. The strength of those who bear the burdens is failing. There is too much rubble by ourselves. We will not be able to rebuild the wall. And our enemies said let me just say something about that. I that I tend to be very careful what you say. If you want your family to get through this. If you want your business to get through this. If you want your ministry to get through this be very careful what you say one of the big mistakes that is made by. Christians is a scribe ING. To Satan the characteristics of God you understand that Satan is not on the president. He's not everywhere. He's I'm sure not here. He's not on the present. He has. Demonic messengers and a human army. But he is he is likely never been anywhere near any of us, not Satan himself, just his emissaries. He would need a much bigger fish than you or me. I'm sure to show up in person. He's not on hip attend. He can't do anything. And most to my point this morning. He's not omniscient. And because he's not on Nisshin loved ones. He doesn't know your thoughts. He doesn't know what you're thinking. Until you say it not imputable fellowship with a friend not in meaningful prayer with God. And under that protection. No, I didn't thoughtful meditation on the faithfulness of God to meet those needs. But winning a careless flesh -ly moment we lash out and reveal the struggle of our heart. We say in effect to the enemy. Come and get me. This is where I'm struggling today. Because I love you. This is no fun list to give. But here they are words that help Satan. Watch out for these words that help Satan words that help the enemy. First of all bidder words. Bitter words that reveal unforgiveness. Oh, she hates her sister. Let's get after that. She hates her boss. He hates his dad. They hate the church. Let's stir that up. Fijian's for twenty six angry. But do not send don't let the sun go down on your anger. Nor give a foothold to the enemy. Unresolved bitterness will eventually burst forth in words and reveal the condition of your heart to the enemy who will take a place to stand. This is why a bitter spirit defiles, many people Hebrews twelve here's one lying. Lying, especially an awesome time in Israel. I really hope you're able to make that trip sometime in your lifetime. And it was beautiful this week to hear people speaking, French speaking, German speaking, Hebrew, so many people speaking Hebrew. I wish we could speak another language, you know, that a lot of people around the world speak more than one language. Don't you? It's only in our homogenized western world that we think that everything's in English. And it's so beautiful to hear other languages. Did. You know that Satan has a language John eight forty four. Your of your father, the devil. He was a liar from the beginning and the father of say. Lying is Satan's language. How do you know Satan's lying? His lips are moving. And every time we li-, we speak, the enemies language where were you? Did you say this? What are you doing on your computer? Why are you? So late getting home. What's happening here life right now. Every time we li- we say to Satan. I'm on your team. I'm with you. And does he love that? God help us to watch. Our words bitter words lying words. Accusations. Accusations revelation twelve ten says that great serpent of old Satan? The accuser of the brethren Satan is the accuser of brothers. We're called to love our brothers. An accusation is way different than a criticism. An accusation is something with the intent of condemnation. And when we bring an accusation with the intentive condemnation against our brother, we are on Satan's team. Tried full words James chapter four says humble yourselves. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. What is the resisting? Resisting the humility Satan is the father of pride. He can't stand in the presence of humility. And when we say, I was wrong. I'm sorry, please. Forgive me. The enemy is defeated. And he flees. He lost. God one. But when we say prideful, I'm not wrong. I have nothing to own. I didn't make any mistakes. That's not me that pride. Those prideful words. Help our enemy. And lastly fearful words fearful words Jesus said in Matthew, eight twenty six oh you've little faith. Why were you afraid? Don't you knew your father is don't you know, what team you're on? Don't you know, how all this ends? Why were you afraid, but but not a condemnation so lovingly, hey, oh, you of little faith. Why are you afraid? Look up here faithfulness to God. Faithfulness to God. Never stop working. All this ends in a huge party someday. Celebrating all that God has done and us so grateful for the strength to persevere. Thank you for that. Now, this two more things ready to help. Except opposition as part of the cost of achievement and. Let me get divers fifteen. I left a few hanging here. Verse eleven so the foolish words the strength of those who bear the burden is failing. There's too much trouble. We're here. We can't do it. We're not gonna be able to rebuild the wall, and our enemies. So the enemies see it. They hear what they say. And our enemies said they will not know or see until we come among them and kill them and stop the work. That's always the goal. Just stop the work. At that time, the Jews who lived near them came from all directions. And said to us ten times. That's a Hebrew idiom ten times just means many times kept on saying it's not like they counted to ten, but they were just saying this over and over you must returned to us. You must return to us. You must return to us look up here. Have you ever been engaged in something so challenging that? Even good people even faithful people even people that were for you tried to get you to stop man, you need to give up on that, man. He's never going to be the husband that you want him to be you need to give up on that work or you need to give up on that person. You need a Goeman Neg yourself safe. Stop building the wall come hide with us in our basements. Nothing's harder than when the people that love God. And love you try to get you. To stop the work. Verse thirteen so in the lowest parts of the space behind the wall in open places, I stationed the people by their clans with their swords and their spears and their bows. Can't you hear San ballot until bio and all of the ammonites and Arabs and Asha Deitz their ten ten ten ten ten ten. They're marching in. So in the lowest parts of the space behind the wall in the open places, I stationed the people by their plans with their swords, their spears bows. And I looked in a rose and said to the nobles into the officials into the rest of the people do not be afraid. Remember, the Lord who is great and awesome and fight for your brothers. Your sons your daughters, your wives and your homes. This matters. This matters. Give it all spend it all use it all everything to this point was for what's ahead now. Let's get after it man that fires me up. If that doesn't fire you up your would is wet. So here it is. This is probably the biggest inside I got in my study of this passage this week. And thank you for your gracious kindness. Doing all the things that you do. So that I'm so blessed to be able to study God's word and prepare these messages, and I've preached this week till my voice is nearly gone. But I praise God for the strength here. Notice this when our enemies verse fifteen heard that it was known to us and that God had frustrated their plan. We all returned to the wall each to his work. Love it from that day on half of my servants worked on construction and half held the spears shields. The Bose into coats of mail and the leaders stood behind the whole house of Judah who are building on the wall. Those who carried burdens where loaded in such a way that each laboured on the work. Like come on load me up, man. No, y'all. You can't carry that many bricks. Well, yeah, I've cared. I'm any everyday not today now with sword in your hand. See? Those who carry the burdens were loaded in such a way that each laboured on the work with one hand and held his weapon with the other. So now, it's like this. Now, you can't do as much traveling when you're like bring it. And this is the great insight that I've gotten, and I pray that it will be as helpful to you as it has been to me. For most of my life. I've seen the inevitable opposition as an interruption to the work. As a distraction from the work as a detour from the work that I loved and long to be able to do without the need for this. But I've never studied the most comprehensive passage on achievement for God. I've never studied this book. And I'm learning just before you're learning and this meant so much to me. Dealing with opposition is not in of the work. It is part of the work dealing with opposition is not a detour from the work. It is part of the work. Stop dreaming of a day when you won't have to think protectively about your small children stop dreaming of the day. When your high school students won't need, your constant attention to make sure that the wrong friends aren't taking them in the wrong direction. Stop dreaming of the day. When your kids will be grown and gone is all the job as their for those who have experienced an empty nest. No that it is not true. And deploy the same to your business and apply the same your ministry, the diligence that got me here. We'll Kate me here and nothing less will suffice unless we wanna get to the end of our life and stand guard duty over what used to be. We will now. Take to heart the reality that being used as we are so blessed to be used not around Elgin, not around the northwest suburbs. But around Chicago and around America and around the world, let us undertake the understanding that a portion of the work from here forward will always be. Somewhere on the work and some work on the opposition Charles Spurgeon, you'd have to know is one of my heroes. I mentioned him so frequently and I'm not unique in that for many pastors look to him. A great great preacher who died at the age of fifty seven. He spent the bulk of his ministry. Fighting. Anglicanism and its embrace of much that the reformation freed Protestant churches from. Then later in his life. Those closest to him began to deny the word of God began to deny the DD of Christ began to deny the things that mattered. He called it the downgrade controversy and in the last years of his life. He had to resist those who had been his closest friends in associates, and he suffered the loss of so much that it broke his hardy died so prematurely. Fifteen seven years old on the coast of France for his entire life. His frequent publication. Two people in ministry was called to sort of the trowel sword and the trowel. From this passage. Apparently, he learned long before me. It's both. It's both. It's both. It's both and all God's people said, it's it's both go online. Look it up today in the trial the sword in the trial. Look it up read article after article after article from one hundred and forty one hundred and fifty years ago, the work was going forward, the work was bearing fruit. But the defense had to be made. So this. Last one number seven can wait. Rally your team to God. And to one another and say it. Let me read these versus and then we're going to pray. Burr's eighteen in each of the builders head his sword strapped at aside while he built the man who sounded the trumpet was beside me. And I said to the nobles into the officials into the rest of the people the work is great and widely spread and we're separated on the wall from one another in the place where you hear the sound of the trumpet rally to us there. See to spread out stay together. Stay unified, stay close. Stay in communication, and if you get out of communication, listen for the trumpet, that's where the battles raging rally to us. There are God will fight for us. So we labored at the work and half them held the spears from the break of dawn until the stars came out. I also said to the people at that time let every man and his servant passed the night within Jerusalem that they may be a guard for us by night may labor by day. Neither I nor my brothers nor my service or the men of the guard who followed me, none of us took our clothes off. In sleep. Great. But we got a lot done each kept his weapon at his right hand. I want the church to pray. We'll just go one or two minutes over this morning. This matters. If you're not comfortable leading in prayer, you might just buy your head. If you're comfortable leading lean forward, lean back, get two or three or four people together. We're gonna pray right now come on look to the people behind you look to the people in front of you. There's a lot of prayers in this room. There's a lot of prayers across all of our campuses, and we're gonna call out to God for your family for your business for your ministry for our ministry in this church on get into groups look behind you. You can pray. If you don't wanna pray just bow your head. If your head is up look for some people, get your arms around them and start praying. Just pray. Let us not grow weary in doing good for induced season. We will reap if we do not give up come on. Let's hear the rooms filled with God's people praying pray out loud. No, whispering. Come boldly. Father. We looked to you today where are so blessed to be able to call upon your name. I thank you for every praying person. Let us make these matters. Continuously on our hearts before. You we pray for someone who's struggling and thinks they can't go on we pray for someone who is so weary. They can hardly grip. The sword. We reject. The arm of the flesh the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God to the pulling down of strongholds, and you have promised. Oh Lord that no weapon formed against us. We'll prosper every tongue that rises in judgment. We will condemn because we are the children of the Lord. So let us walk in humility. Help us to understand that love is our greatest weapon. We seek not to arm. The flesh we seek to alert the spirit to the reality of the battle. We call your people forward, and we engage together. Be strong in the Lord. And in the power of his might put on the whole armor of God that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the enemy. This we do steadfast in the faith and pray for a great week of victory as thanksgiving. We'll come that our hearts overflow with gratitude and let the sincerity of our hearts. Welcome afresh, your favor and your goodness and your protection, and let us not feel isolated on the wall in our assignment. Give us is to see those who are struggling and ears to hear the call to rally. Let us strengthen one another. So that we might be used by you to the fullest extent. This we promise we will stand together we will not stop working, and we end -ticipant more victories for your glory bind us together in love. We pray in Jesus name. Are hoping prayers that today's message blessed you, and if it did there's a couple of things that we'd love for you to do. You can subscribe you can rate the podcast, and you can review it this podcast is made possible by our faithful change partners if you'd like to help us reach others become a change partner or support the ministry today by visiting walk in the word dot com. Thanks for joining us. And we'll see you next time.
Litecoin & Ethereum Dominating
"The show is proudly sponsored by trying to call DOT COM. The leaders in checklist based trading strategy. Yes that's exactly how it sounds. I'll teach you a literal checklist so you can take off autumns and be decisive very quickly. Get across to try to COBB DOT com where there's a bunch of free content there. You'd have a look at and of course if you're interested didn't having may come to your city. Click Register for the live events coming up and feeling fast have a great day visit. TRY TO CALL DOT COM now. Get everybody welcome to the crypto show hub having a good day guys. It was all about a theory miss tonight. Was it not well. Yes it was a Stela move. We saw there on film really really really setting its foot down as the premier ult- out there especially within that top opt-in but across the majority of the market this acquisitive. I'm saying they're on a theorem is wonderful. it's spoke about quite a bit across my videos to my phrase inscribed. Robert Market View everywhere. I've been speaking to a great deal. the fact the matter is is that we break up to when you hire high within that uptrend sitting the high alone and now he's got a really awesome job now teach a lot about shot structure simplicity. This type of thing what I'm saying right now is just marvelous. a beautiful beautiful continuation day moving average is across dive into the correct order now on that daily time from the vessel suggests that like to about that because I don is not the cross over the matters. It's just the fact that now the moving average is starting to come into correct order which could potentially open up trading opportunities over the coming dies wakes may long on a theory against the US Stola on a daily time friend but it's not the daily talk from that adjusted. They define us on a matter of fact. There's been some cracking looking pullbacks along the way with a theory hearing against the Dole and that we mainly sold unfortunately full myself personally being here in Australia but those of you in the UK all around Europe Europe and in the Americas you guys or anyone in the northern hemisphere to be fair you had a lovely example of a cried appoint back loss naught automate that tried was two o'clock in the morning and from there that entry about one ninety dollars and fifty cents tapped out two hundred dollars with you would have had about a dollar fifty a buck fifty stuff or so a very very strong move. There are have been speaking with theory having two hundred hundred resistance coming into it. It did exactly hit that a month suggesting Castillo raising pulling back a little remind resistance. I say push through Bob Evans Guide to plants. I follow the theory yeah. I think he's not GonNa Platform. sommes other than holding a Theorem don't have any margin trades on that side guy. That will be more patients. Cry It will happen since I started on a theory. I'll tell you the process right now. It's one ninety seven in a sixty nine cents. It's up dollars four point two full percent entities the top performer across that top ten today bitcoins at ten thousand two hundred ninety eight and the dip dip overnight during the dice today as a matter of fact into not we did see it come down to a low of about ten thousand a one hundred or thereabouts and unfortunately a break that little consolidation of the high alert that also looking full for potential breakout dried currently ten thousand two hundred. I Don Dole's fifty. Dan Point three one of the percent not traveling too much but not looking you know it's. It's just not chop structure. theorems got a still. WanNa state date. We know the dilemma. We gotta get above so I I was going to get above ten thousand five hundred and then we've got that high in the high once again in the micro looking for push up through eleven two thousand for the time being we must wait for all seven cents at sitting pretty flat on the Deitz. Nas It'll move over the last couple of weeks of course about bothering at three dollars a McCartney fools bad at all but not a great deal for me. Today's breaks new daily highs for the time being which gets US basically about four dollars and seventeen cents cents. Sullivan does what still does and that is three fifths of not a great deal it's actually up half percents five point eight cents and that's all I really have to site x up well. It's really try it. It's basically putting the signal suggesting it wants to copy a lot coin a theory. It needs to break out through twenty six point seven cents. It's a point to six point two percent up right now until breaks that resistance. I ain't going no way on the looking for any tried like going against the US. Stay has done that is pushed above that seventy one lamar that had acted as ultra potent resistance is actually pushed on to give itself daily uptrend in motion right now the high seventy a full thirty nine of the dates actually three point four four percent currently seventy two dollars and seventy four cents and looking at Nas they look if if it can continue on like this ace coin will definitely a market that will be off. The trades are not against big. Olympic was looks good on Bitcoin is does a theme it will also be good against the US dollar but choppy they're on lower timeframes rotten bitcoin cash gronning along needs to get above the level of three hundred and fourteen dollars three are white and nineteen cents at one point three trey percent today a guy who threatening to continue its trump bonnet continuing to full is down point five percent at twenty dollars and nineteen cents and it just continues to to give back against the dollar of course against Bitcoin severely with Bitcoin so holding its ground as well. Tron welds at one point three two percent sitting at one point five five cents. It is dodging to create what looks to me like a potential reversal. We've convergence there. If we go to break out we got high low. We just need a high a high to get that when you to break up sixteen points or one point six two cents and then it could be on we're up at one point three percent right now. Gadhafi knows at four point seven cents. It's a guy and signed. I'm sort of thing. We've got a lot of reversals. He is a lot of highlights. Some with already is some astill whiting cut. Donna is still waiting. It's up one point two opposite tonight and the high well. It needs to break up a full point eight cents for May to see this into an option hasn't done it yet but could do it any time today. They as vase up today it's at one hundred twenty three now flat up two point one four percent in a down trend not looking like anything really that try to for me at the moment now if you want to get getting and have a look at the rest of my analysis but actually look through that analysis as opposed to just hearing about that then you need to get across to try to call dot com your email in details because I'm going to get a video out for you will to die so I suggest you go ahead and do that. GotTa try to call the DOT com register for the Free Subscriber List Eh. 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Maya Linnell Straight from the Heart
"Welcome to ride with love. I'm you, heist Sarah Williams. They selling author speaking in creative entrepreneur each wake, I checked to patient and inspiring authors about the journey in creative. Brushing some traditionally published some themselves. Everyone's Jaas, different and everyone has something interesting to say we all love, love and love will be today's show is brought to you by our amazing fans and supporters unpatriotic if you'd like to help support the shot and get some awesome, bonus episodes, very to patron dot com forward slash Sarah Williams, both learn more. Now he is today's show. Welcome to write with love today on the show. I'm Cheddington Lanao. How us today? Very good. Sarah, thank you so much for having me. It's my pleasure. You knew very busy lady. And we'll be talking all about what you've been doing in just a minute. Can you stop by telling us about yourself and your writing Jenny sofa? Yes. Well, I've just released a romance noble and its code watt, lower rich, and it's my first book. So it's very exciting to me, it came out at the start of June with Allen and Unwin publishes. And it's had some fantastic reviews so far, which just absolutely wombs behalf because being my first novel working journalist country news, you'd get coated in the supermarket, and people would say, oh, do like that. How cool that you did about such inside show. What not? So it's really nice to I had a lot of people that would also come up to me on a regular basis. I, I love that or loved the article the pace that day, though the research behind certain article, but to receive such positive feedback from daredevil size, just lentils. Yes. And it's really cool. You were generalist fit. So you've always liked rushing deny win net started as child. Yes, I have always been a huge perform. I'm in dad, where always happy to me, as many books as I wanted, and they had a chronic click library. So I'd be rating. Huckleberry Feen and black duty my friend flicker as well as going infant. Agatha Christie, I think I remember those one had a very politically incorrect, hostile back when I was I must've been about great two or three. And it's I think it's now code Tyndall Indians. But it had a ridiculously incorrect. Name the vision that I was reading that I didn't even realize was highly inflammatory into I had written down in a book review, in about ES Ray had we thought Norwegian actually say that it's on the cover of this book that I've got which would probably have gotten from the up shop using using used before fit shot yet. So I've always loved rating, and that translated pretty quickly into loving rushing, and I had some fantastic teaches in farmers. School that said guy from I do wanna be liking off away. I was and in, then I started thinking about running full magazines, I think I would have been attain idea early teens and try to submit some Meg articles to totally rod magazine, which was bit of a lot when I was young, but my dad's wild pain two stories that race it directly from the encyclopedia, they know really probably what people are after what he rightly Nori in sorry. I decided to write not because for that floss magazine which is the ones that you get the tree dollars at the sigma checkout. In Iraq, a great article about forty ask them that my girlfriends, and I would doing, and that was the first article that I had published purview. The family Metalitz really exciting. I don't take daily. Away, which is being we would eight Bali sugars in orange juice, that whole forty hours in which are maybe it was horrific I can't believe we damaged minds and bodies much charity, but now we loved it. And, you know, I got my fist coop printed, riding fat it, which makes me and then I went into journalism in my early twenties in was often away. It's really cool. I love when people come from gentlest stick background to it. Always it makes it really interesting. Did you find changing from the nonfiction to the fiction or did it help? It was I, I was always, particularly drawn to the longer profile pieces that I was rushing. And so there was a series called my times. So I'd go out into people who are maybe seventy or eighty years old in community, and because it was a small newspaper in suddenly lovely characters around like I should see it spend a couple of hours speaking with some of these people would and getting the stories of when they had to walk eight miles to school, and, you know, the weekends bacillus hunting Rapids to fade, their family and whatnot site. It was really interesting. I loved those faces, and I think rushing fiction, it was a change in that I had to completely invent scenarios from Myron imagination, but occupied really going to Dix with different akrons of these people that I wanted to write about, and you know what they, they history would base, I love thing I was completely immerse myself in whichever direction that I wanted that is fantastic. And you think invoked to run ins right as a stray Leah for Luo now. Tell about. But you've been doing for them. His one of the things always maintained going to also talks and algebra here in south toria has an amazing array of come through, and it's wonderful. They put on great events, regularly, and one of the folks that I went to when I was, I think preps halfway through my first draft of this book Victoria Perriman, who is very well, regarded within the roommates, right? Is strategy grapes end. She was the first person to ever mentioned run-ins rods ustralia in. She said, oh, it's just wonderful organization in so supportive, there's a conference every year, we get to drink tiles in champagne and talk about writing and his workshops, and I thought that sounds fantastic for that. So I signed up straightaway off to her also toke in its Bank, right? Because let wonderful people like yourself. You are very Kane on writing, I guess, enhancing relationships between other rises. I've also been lucky enough to do quite willing to competitions. So the menu. Scripts before it became a published book went through a few different rounds. Edits. And I had faith back from competitions in, in making finals three different competitions last year which was a huge boost. I think to Nari that the story, you know, appeal to arrange of paper in this great strengths in there that I could work on yet income. Titians always good for the feedback, if nothing else to lay like yes, it's early enough in entering competitions on the definitely good wave yet getting that feedback in finding out what people like what you what you straight weaknesses. And there's nothing like through whiting waiting for the Email to come in your inbox. Oh, maybe I've done. Well this year. Oh, maybe I'm just listening snuck into the finals and whatnot. So I think that in the thrill of knowing not knowing whether it's going to do. Well, sorry, I, and I also think it pushes you to. Right. Outside your comfort zone as well because, you know, I might it my mission last into every single contest within the remnants registry. That was capable to me. Obviously, I couldn't enter the professional ones, but all the ones for firing rotted. Sorry I shot in some. I did rallying in the spicy bites. I worked at pretty quickly. I wasn't cheekily strong in that field. And that was that was a great little laugh, actually, to read the Fe Beckham Aintree who knew that you needed to have quite high levels. Spicy fights competition. So you are you'll never which will talk that in just to say, but I'd love you to just tell us about submitting prices today. If anything to w way. Yes. Remnants, right. Is playing shoe. Dro in my publishing contract in that. I was oh set last year to have my manuscript ready to peach at the conference in Sydney in August. And that was my goal at the start of last year. I was going to do in. I saw a pitching machine ity for people who were outside of capital cities in our Peachtree that which went really, well, it didn't have enshrined your contract, but it was a great experience. And I felt better prepared for the August conferences coming out, but between Bain aned August conference when released the details of who is taking pitches at the conference. I thought, well, all just do bit of researching bit of GD legions in made contact with one of the fab fabulous publishes from Ellen on win ahead of the conference, and it all went from there, which is very fortunate for me. Excellent so room, yet, did you submit a lot before that? And get reject. Or with you just kinda got lucky. Yes, I was very fortunate to kind of skip through the process, which I think having a background in journalism help to in that it was a. I wouldn't say it was a clean dropped. It was quite a structure draw advance required. A few rounds editing before I decide to put it out into the world. And I've got this. I had a priced at night, stock to my computer pretty much the whole time that I was writing the fist draw in. It said, secure roaches. Don't try to sell the first draft. They patiently rot into the noble eases. Radio possible end I had to look at that many times because I wanted to send it out. I want to get out there and get some feedback to Nari with is gonna be writing to twenty years to get published, or if it was going to be going through relatively smoothly, which fortunately for me did. I really had to look at that price at night, so many times before, I to ride my soap Sopian. Yeah, that's a good lesson. I've said, head of a load of papal saving face drops. You kinda cringe his guy takes a long time. If we can say you could anything, it's like ten thousand dollars or something. And yet. Yes. So did you use Profissional editors before? Before you submitted to Elena non one Nord. Did you just keep working and getting critiqued in that sort of thing? Yes. Sorry, I, I studied through rods GIO, Australia for my first in second draft. And that was excellent in that I had a structure of, and I figured that if I was going to do this whole thing and give it my best shot, I really wanted to noisy that I'd have them some solid structure in place. H I guess it was h month that'd be putting forward one sane in about twenty written in getting feedback about that. So that was really helpful. But no, I didn't actually have professionally edited, I sent it through to it went to my mom would find nanna went to us you, Stu, and they into a few other friends, as well who gave me some excellent feedback about different bits of pacing characters that were. There's a couple of nasty characters in there. I'd really done them. Pretty nasty sorry, that went, particularly lockable in Kip some elements of these characters, but they not his own at main. They wear in the fist draft. So tell us about Wildflower ridge, which is the novel. You've done a show the cover because it's a beautiful cover. I wanna see it. Exploit this one? This is world flower, rich and Wildflower rage is a rule remi-, and it's all about farming families country living in following your heart, and we've got the main characters Kenny MacIntyre, who we can stay here on the front cover in she lives in Melbourne. She's got a great loss that she loves very high pressure. High pow Correa end all of a sudden, she's on will, and she has to hit back to the family found to recuperate in sorry, pennies throwing back into the stick of country living, she's got her three sisters. There's mixed reactions from the different siblings about her being hurry. Magan in she's got a few conflicts in the mix as well. Not the lace the fact that her ex boyfriend is now the leading found hand on her father's property. Sorry, we've got some great complete. We've got some interesting social issues going on this end. I think it's a a refund raid. Yeah. Fantastic. So this Antic elements in the hell steamier, we're gonna get with welfare. Well, wildfire Regina decided to keep it not quite steamy. Because I think given that it was my first foray into rural fiction enroll Raymond romance. I wanted to try in get the storyline. Dan, Pat in. It's not to say that they weren't any spice into the stories fit for this one days is not too much spice. It's close-door. It's more of a sweet story, and my ten year old son was very eager to rate. It is seen as we got the printed copies. In the house, he raced off in started writing it. And I thought you know what he probably will get a page to into it. Maybe a chapter in realize it rule runnin is not really. He's saying he's more of a Harry Potter, hunger games, God. But he read it, it took him five days in lumped it. He. Actually, I book, that's a dais incised book. Is very impressed. Sorry, it's out with Ellen and on when it now and so we've got the prank copays. We've got e book copies end audio books coming saying here. That's right. Yes, they've wave sound have decided to put together the order book. Sorry that's available. I've had some friends already finish listening to it through the local libraries as well as audible sorry, it some on the market in order able in paperbacks yet end for our American. I've assays listen is full, I have access to books. At least. Yes, definitely, so anyone who's herbicides can order it through book to pose a tray or Amazon, and then I've heard little whisper, that you'll also being distributed throughout the states as well. So that's a video, citing that is, who is a great you. Scientists take end. You're doing a lot of promotions at the moment. Now you've got a book tour Oganization. I know this because I'm usually about it. So tell us you'll Deitz in days tonight. Yes. Well baying, someone who loves going to the talks myself, I thought I'd be very remiss if I didn't give back to the community. Sorry, I'm hitting us by the time the podcast goes to air. I think my next Millicent, which is on the twenty eighth of June, which is my hometown. So that way, I went to high school in mom's already organized a bus of paper would accounting from base for, which is winning Alabi. In the local, libraries, very excited, that I'm coming to a book Shaukat to spending so much time. They as a kid in from Daryl head to add lights Rundle mold Jimmy stare in the middle of the city is Willis, the Adelaide hills in Victoria, where we have family. I'll be doing some country Victorian. Deitz says stole in wholesome in early July in hyping have Beller at flashed to rang diet, as well coming up soon, but that's the pipeline and then in August, I count right up and see. That'd be great, Sarah. So you're not gonna be hanging out at the sunshine cursed on the twenty fourth and twenty fifth, I believe into for the I'm going to be at the prison library on the twenty second of August, in gimpy on the twenty third in account. Right. To say different rate is different performs. I think there's always so much advice that you can pick out Minolta tobe from being in the audience in also from being on the stage. I really look forward to talking that rushing books with other people. Yeah, that's just fantastic aimed. Are you going to the remains fried of a strata conference in Melbourne? I I'll be there with bells on account white ahead. Triple last year. It's always an annual maintenance, always just side great. And I'll be there as well. So we'll get to chat then. Yeah. That'd be great. Differently, keeping busy, and I heard is another book that you were writing. That used sorry I've just finished the second draft of butchery. So that's in the pipeline and that will be at this time next year with our on one in sorry that focuses on a different MacIntosh with wildfowl reach the books all about penny. We do have the other sisters as two in the Knicks. But the second book focus on AG McIntyre, who is the youngest or will the MacIntosh goes. Sorry that's good. A slot arena, Buta sub-fund, as well because we built our in house couple of years ago. So there's lots of lines there that I can just draw from my experience. Throwing and domestic arguments are tight colors and whatnot. Yeah. This imagine all really fantastic. So you growing it is the series. Will it just be the two will you be able to get a little? Now I decided cook four sisters in this work. And I think that's going to be very well because there's four distinct stories they're different stages of the law. I think there's a lot of excited about. That sounds brilliant night, I can say it's doing really well, when I just I can absolutely say just doing fantastic lay for the foreseeable future, and I can't wait to meet you and passing weaving. That'll be great. Well, we can we find you on line and keep up with everything that you doing. Yes. Well, I do love hearing from people, I've got away, which is Mirela no dot com. And that's got older links to my Instagram, my Facebook, I do have Twitter on huge on Fitch. It's there. And so I love hearing for people end the different reviews that I've received even if it's just an Email people saying, oh, I just love this character in. I couldn't put it down, or I stayed up to two o'clock in the morning rating to SEIs wait to hear me line of what they lacked about it or, or that they didn't like things. I'm always have to take on different comments. Thank you so much for joining me today. I really appreciate it. Thank you. It's lovely chatting to an really nice to actually put advice to the naive. It's nice to be able to in video as opposed to justify. Thanks for joining me today. I hope you enjoyed the show jump onto my website, Sarah Williams at dot com. Enjoy my mailing must to receive free preview of my books and lots of other inspiration. 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The Kevin Long Show: Top 10 D&D adventures
"Welcome to the Kevin Long show production of the Southgate Media Group. You can find us at southgate media. Group dotcom commute is lift by Kevin Kling off in contact dot com royalty free music as long as you give the dude his props. This episode of the Kevin Long Show is brought to you by tweaked audio podcast fan for thirty percent off free shipping any lifetime warranty head over to tweak audio dot com and in the coupon code area type Southgate Kevin Long show is also brought to you by coffee where you can support us by going to coffee dot Com and searching the Kevin long show new species right. It's that time of the week again time for the Kevin Long show. I'm your host Kevin. Long haul man. It's been a few weeks since we had one of these but here we are and sneak peek. I have to figure out how I WANNA do a show with my kid tonight so I can post it tomorrow. 'cause I've been procrastinating but I need to get it done tonight. 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Mug Or better yet another book for the notes that you need to write down rather because you're a player and you need to remember that you had ten gold pieces. This is a plus one stored demon lady or if you're the DM and trying to build your world notebooks come in handy thing that's it. That's all the business so hey do my friends at Deitz for brains podcast a favor and go check out their podcast. They're keen in on hiatus right now because you know real life sucks but they have said that they're. GonNa pick it back up. I thought thirty shows left but I'm loving it right now. I'm still in the Star Wars Saga but then they do a Harry Potter thing and change game systems but check it out because Oh man so good all right another dilly dallying. Let's get into this in this episode is going to be the top ten best dungeon adventures in DND history. I'm I'm really glad that the guy did this but there's so much more to India history just wanted to e- don't get me wrong one home but I feel that if you're gonNA do best adventures DND history you need to cover all all the history because Freeport in hell was really fun. told us by Monkey Kirk was amazing and I'm Kinda going to spoil we have no. I won't spoil so yeah. There are adventures in every edition even the one that shall not be named that are really good so let's get into it number Ted. The dread haven't run this adventure yet but it sitting on my bookshelf and it's really good this one. I don't understand and there's GONNA be links in the show notes into this article so you guys can decide for yourself number nine expedition to the barrier peaks. I might have to do my own ranking king and yes I will throw in modules from every edition because I just said the history is more than first and second edition and I guess basic basic because you know keep on the borderlands but expedition vary peak should be way higher than number nine. That's just my opinion and whatever number eight castle amber okay seven seven the sinister secrets. Is Our auch salt marsh here. I can't say that five times faster but there you go number seven number six six desert desolation oh man I would put this at least number five love this adventure who ooh good. I also did it as the castles and Crusades game. That's okay honestly that's the only time I've ever played ages when when my dam rented as castles and Crusades and it was mazing pay number five queen one of the spiders we'll just leave that one right where it is this would also get moved in my rankings and you'll see why here here in a minute number four the temple of Elemental Evil Yeah I would put that in the top two. I would number three keep on the borderlands. Here is another example of okay fine. Meggett number three but where is be one that was a great adventure to or before or whatever her number two and okay. Maybe this is number two. I'm pretty sure it's number one but we'll get there in a minute number two tomb of Horrors Yeah Baby K and number one and look to each their own but I don't know just can't accept this as a definitive answer to the best adventures ventures indeed Andy History number one. I six raven lost and yeah it spawned a whole setting but guys I six is not the greatest adventure. Da History Man so they're K- tumour's would be my number. One and number two would keep on borderlands and number three would be the temple of elemental evil. I would would have the fight. Maybe for number three being the temple of elemental evil or her expedition to barrier peaks because there is conic. I Guess Yeah I love the Temple of elemental evil until that everybody should play that at least once in their life these other ones yeah desert desolation should be higher too. I am I think think I'm going to create my own top ten and I wonder how many of these would be on there because including the the entire history like the sunless cathedral for three five fat adventure was amazing issue in the top ten for sure probably number ten but it's still top-ten alright right. What else like I said told us would be told us would be there what else there's one. That's sitting on my shelf. That's for forty about an abbey where you get to stand on items from the mini things and it gives you power that would be in their castle or the CRISTA. Straw would probably be number nine. Maybe it would share a spot with is six. I knew ponder this so for me myself and I mo- hollow and have a great day again. Thank you for listening to the Kevin Lump show you can find us on Southgate Media Group. Dot Com you can find the Kevin Long show on facebook by searching NCAA Kevin among show you can find us at twitter by searching Kevin Long H. One you can also email the show at Kevin Long Show Gene Dot Com.
#165: Genevieve Day on managing talent during global turmoil
"Hon Common is production by neural the full service digital agency. If you want to grow with premium agency and have the ability to work Jordan directly then learn more at around dot com slash media and request to Koba. That's an are a L. DOT com slash media names Jordan muck ladies and. I'm the host of uncommon for show that asked the why on Business Nadya current affairs and sport uncommon. Coroner additions sees US catching up with pride. Guess the document have adapting during this once in a lifetime pandemic. He loved the episode. Dude leave a review on your podcast. App does help us continue. What we're doing. Don't forget that there's plenty of To keep you time. The show notes below You can also find old previous guests at the route diplom- slash uncommon. It's any I double slash uncommon the full video to search uncommon show on Youtube and for social to keep up to date with behind the scenes search at uncommon on the school. Show with that being said. Let's get into the episode. My guests this week is gender friend of the show founder of Dai Management and as I like to say influence a fairy godmother Jenn. Hales has `isolation with pot. Going so fall. It's funny I part of me loves it I'm kind of like an extroverted introvert. Really welcomes time inside which lakes and raiding obviously too much of a good thing can go a little stir crazy but yeah we've been them what you've been hopeful at three and a half weeks now so it's just about getting systems in place in structure moutain but otherwise adapting quite nicely. Have you had any moments like in the last couple of weeks? We've just looked at each other and just gone. I need spice like feel like last week last week. I had like a nasal infection I was. I couldn't exercise because I had to get better and I was just like everything. Lawrence said I would snap and I was just like get the fuck out of this house. Have you had anything like that absolutely? And it's funny because in getting hey was still going to the office during the day because he's an essential service and he just thought from harm as of last week so we kind of had bet nine break of going offense at nine to five distance which helps race. It's been doing everything together Hazel. Luckily because he's like oh. We'll go to the supermarket together and we'll consider the cash together. Even if I'm playing playstation you'll drink amounts spayed the same room doing that with a bit more like let's just I'll be in their second. What is he what does he do for? Work is deemed essential so he works at a commodity trading company but in like food job. So we all have to get food so he probably works at somewhere like crying Cole or something like that. Yeah Glencoe Glencoe. Wow Okay yes them. Huge company absolutely massive. I think many Australians no Glencoe Glencoe is probably the biggest Australian earned but non USTRALIAN business. That he's like it's all based in Switzerland Armagh dealing with them for years I should we do with coin jaw casually we have to deal with him on some commodity stuff but Yeah that's that's so funny WANNA small world. They run a dams and he also has a few like we. Time get printed with black princes in zooms in on her and relax in a catch. Finish my work day. He's staking to Europe so it's been an interesting time now. I put in notes the thirty if we spoke about that I think I'm planning from line at the moment. I've got some good ideas so we weren't. We weren't going too much into that but I was intrigued around like obey. No asking all guests around monumental moments feel like you know like in the loss I down. Mon Hot I asked him. Do you compare this to World War. Two and he's like no because like I'm Jewish in this is this is nothing in comparison to that some like. Oh Shit so is it like do you feel like this is the only thing I can compare this to. Is Maybe nine eleven. I feel like it's sort of superseded up for me personally remember. I think it will be much more ingrained in ONS like. I think that we were so young. When this other big worldwide catastrophes in instances happens so yeah it's cool to live through. Druid inexperience in be able to tell you. Kids is what happened during friend of ours we will stay inside and people wearing Faisal this morning. Knock in yeah. I think it's definitely an interesting thing to live through. It doesn't feel as catastrophic. Yech and I hope it doesn't get that level lucky lucky. I think we've really dodged a bullet here. Yeah for all the for all the shit. The government's main given in the last couple of weeks. I feel like we. We decide lucky that we live on an island. I always think that every time I fly back and I land from being overseas. But now I've really come to appreciate it. Got Me thinking like what you said. Because see is to have a really strong relationship with my grandmother and She would always talk about like the Great Depression and sort of the war years and how you can see how that would affect her behaviors like she would always reused teabags. And you you assign before to Mayo Fair Ran. How influences and now talking about how to cook things that they have in Pantry in the fridge and stuff like that and had me thinking like what are the things that are gonna stay with us as a generation forever? And what will slingshot back immediately. D think yeah. Isn't that interesting that my grandma told me that she used to like measure out. An exact copy of k amount of wash on boil that amount to save Paula Portugal. The whole Kennel and then it got cold and do it again. Yeah I think that people would just really relishing time. Was that main. What's important to all of us? It's not people around us. It's a health. It's advocation like what our passions during his time in. Henry achieved that indoors. I think that's really reflected in social media because people points at painting more cooking you know they're Brady Hogan engaging with onions through those activities. Y'All lock that one. I think maybe there's going to be going to be something around through there as well like I. It's been interesting to see. How many tally posting about Charlie Carrington? Who HAVE HAD ALL HAL? Atlas of Golan to like These menus we can cook it. Heim like chalet that stays as like as an online option for high end restaurants. Like all these little things to sort of stay with us. I hope so but at the same time they you know. Pnl then it make as much money when in restaurant paying five times as much for bottle of wine or one hundred one hundred percent also is like hell dance at the bay. How long do you think it'll bay and to we go back to like shaking hands and giving each other a kiss? Hello and stuff like that. Isn't that so weird I find? It's a not any great people now that we really do that anyway because giving Alex Elbow. It's hug my mom. It's so strange 'cause my family oversee being a European family very hugging. Qc IT system. It's weird I think pretty quiz. We're not too much like that. In the day hassle join show any emotion decree hunt and tell me that you love me anyway so i. That's exactly what my mom's side of the family that sort of STOIC Ozzy. Irish English background now. I hadn't out notes around discovering when this sort of stuff was kicking into gear. I think come just because Nikonov catch-up regularly I've found out about crime virus sort of unread. It may be light December and then aside as a notice in January like there was little things like there was a run on toilet pipe in Hong Kong and Singapore. Like what the fuck is like? Lauren like I. We should probably like get because we've not heard so I was like maybe we should get some tin food. We should get some tomatoes. Shuna just a little bit more things in case like something like that happens for two and we didn't get any toll a pipe and then I really started to notice like us sort of light. Feb early March when there was no toilet pipe. I think it was that everyone talks about that fraud. I must have been like three weeks ago. When things everything nonessential basically went to zero. Yeah win did you. First start to take notice like in the UAE. You'll customers was speaking all the things that you have to do. It was interesting because we obviously have Bush vice crying in January and that affected us a lot in business mainly because it wasn't appropriate the influences to be saying he is my favorite moisturizer while the country is on fire. That was more than US holding back to be respectful in doing right thing and also so many brands democracy budget to the charity. Less Bob or Gave half a million dollars to help the Bush Which is amazing about Brazil marketing? Spend so we kind of had that happened to me. That's a cable. Pick it back woods and it was an early engine sped. We noticed fashion brand saying we. Conchita Stock Stock is eight China Wing. Economy is the factories shutting down and that was the best for us but it wasn't widespread at all and it was more of like a slight slowdown expansion but not really impacting. It was still like funny. Maids is about current ours. Was that stage. Yeah I remember doing some speaking gigs for International Women's Day and it bay question there again the same response. I was like Osteo capable parked in China so we can speak to the fashion brands yet and then there was that Friday. They cancelled the ground Friday. They cancelled the Virgin Melbourne fashion festival but cancelled elected. Disney movie premieres about to do a massive campaign to the Milan released. We'll never know one day and I was like. Oh okay. This is a really serious thing for us. Now wow damn yeah that that was the fraud I wanna go back and find out that night Because I'm going to find it because I remember. I just been in for a witty. So they had to wake up work. Where our blissfully having a good time and we flew back and I arrived that Friday and everything else. 'cause DEITZ becoming really important. I'll give a very specific example of myself. I recently made an insurance climb because I was meant to be going to a wedding in Bali in May and I bought the insurance sort of like the end of January when we were planning and buying flights and everything and then now claiming that it was a nine world event as of January twenty fifth. Ooh Yeah Yeah maybe in China. Yeah totally but not not here locally and so that is going to be. That's going to be interested in the next twelve months around that sort of stuff insurance You know whether you can get access to these. Pa Wide G grant so benefits job capable all that sort of stuff like even. Yesterday I was on the far into the eight year because they stuffed up fast and like the peer Y G amount. And I'm like fuck. I need to get this sorted because we made this. We need this job. Kepa thing so Deitz are going to become very very important over the next few weeks. I mean I noticed in Feb Athena saying it on nights that we can survive working from high the thing this sort of changing was sales and I feel like it was February. I was like doing a bunch of race and People will really serious about the brief and then after that Friday it will even on animation works and it makes it doesn't require any humans to be in person and then all of a sudden people dislike. We'll see you on the other side because money had dried up zero. So how how is it Bain selling fee? Because that's sort of your bread and butter. You're probably wanting to bestsellers without on the PODCAST. And I can imagine I could imagine it would be strange It was that Friday was talked. We probably had about fifty thousand dollars campaigns pools in one day and that was just like the teeth of the aspect rarely and sorry that next week from us with China lack holding those clients and be like. It's okay to stay with like if anything Spy ENGAGEMENT AND WE'RE GONNA say people online more than ever in lacking things downloading podcasts. More than I ever have With us but we have a lot of cancellations which is it makes sense as well. People don't WanNa be running campaigns when employed and Kant shop so you know and then old racial quotas shopping centers. You know a basically empty now and you know mentally of your hands to go shopping on Chapel Street. Sorry we had a whole business. Pools eighty percent down from what we have confirmed April. May and then we try to humid. And think okay. Let's his collaborations not happening. What can richer do. And that's what we got to be creative and we put together a deck of black okay. Well let's talk that. Isolation CONTENT IS DATA COOKING AT HARM. Self K with Beatty Moss. Send out and relax time amid high stress and here we Kinda just reached out to my GRANDPA Friends in the industry. How can we work together? And how can we help each other? You'll still selling products west getting work and we can make it through this and it took a couple of weeks. It was a hard time to sell and I think the messaging from Aaron really went from Leka Ueno. What we doing with a top about guy. He's how he can do it too like a very A. Let's vote to get in a happy healthy message. Yeah Yeah it's sort of a Marmon feel like Dan said they suicide bomber. When everyone's like faulk like what is happening right now. I didn't know what to do and I've seen this. A little market is talk about this. This is a recent book by everyone knows M- umbrella but And I read it every day. There's a new PODCAST SUBTLE. Listening to that is. It's obviously a similar brand umbrella but it's M. I. Three and they heard that a really good podcast with them. Meam Haisam. Who's the CMO some cult? Reysen she's talking about the fact that like knocking now in any recession. Like whether it's Judah medical raisins or economy or whatever if you can maintain your spend and your relevance in the market. It's like winning thirty brownie points. Thirty extra blast points at that point in time. Because what's GonNa Happen as you come out of this cycle which is going to be temporary? The people can't see right now and you'll still going to be relevant but everyone else is going to have forgotten the presence of those other brands. I think that's the answer. The best brands at the moment of the ones that are changing what they're doing like Some of these grants. We're looking at like you know we've got an you set up where we can do live stuff but I feel like if we can in the next month get some more equipment will be able to do like a calmness retail brands. And we'll be able to do this sort of de Classic not opening the showcase of the season. But we'll just get the founder behind a what screen sort of literally running through h handbag. So there's going to be things that people can do is just a matter of using your Bryant. Come unconvincing someone to do it. And it's nice because the bigger brands on as relying on our wife activity like we're not just relying on spending money to make silence to cover that spanned. They're the ones who kind of coming into build some positive brand message. Can WE CREATE CONTENT? Like a nice warm hug during a crazy time and so we're having conversations with those massive international brands of let's just positive rand resonance in time with capable online on. Maybe when they have the government pay out on drugs again. They're the ones are going to shop with. I you know. I. I spoke to the other off. Tried to call you the other day. I was interrupting your Your whip what's On Line? I was intrigued. Like what is what is a whip. Look like now for you guys. What sort of stuff that you're discussing? It's a lot of Zoom Kohl's with the tame and with the talent as well and I think what is trying to bake creatives all the time which I know is ads really straightforward but especially in a sales role. It's Wednesday true sides of brain right. We have the strategic sales money crunching side and we have the creativity sides between Elaine more into that creative problem solving side about Brian's right now Lady relationships in the industry so just having conversations with people who worked with the last five years of age is nursing delays getting from people that know entrust us so it's a really good return on that Ravin yet having that a Cape Kit chat show as many people as he can reduce message. It's like well. Who Do we already have a repeal wave and what Sony Award Laid Being empowering the team to lean on that level so you still you still getting laid the mind. Yeah we're still getting late. Which is Great. And it's increasing. It was a time maybe like two weeks ago where it was very quiet and that is how. Sino at felt really foreign. But now we're getting some really COOL INQUIRIES. Ada people who business as usual and wanted to maintain messaging Coded nineteen campaigns. Yeah that's interesting because I did notice that like two. Maybe three weeks ago running we normally run bunch of Google ads for different services. Where where the whatever? And you know you might spend granting awake and you might get some ten twenty lates that come through but FA whatever like it was zero. It was nothing coming through. And so we did some rework on like a landing pads particularly rent stuff like street Streaming and animation actually split them out into separate things and now Rabat to launch that but I expect by some what our in customers a saying that the mood has changed and like you said why we said in the past people of realizing that they have to do something otherwise you just sort of become relevant and I think that people like what was saying. The people that are struggling the mice start had that digital aspect business With the way it can really lane on the stats reports right now. People online seventy six percent mold based today because they're stuck in harm and they're engaging with content Listening to podcasts. Lower than ever put together a Deck Wade shameless for example showing this massive spy in downloads. And the people elating on these sources influences a trust because I wanted to them during this time so are still getting some great laid and it's funny because the ones that I love those that don't want to talk about kkob in nineteen in the marketing. Copy like we had a phone call from calls last week. Who lacked okay. Let's just hope response like let's do something? Nice little knowledge that Easter is going to be designed as the everyone loves corresponds. Let's just talk about a lock that through. It's funny. You mentioned that in particular blinds them like the cafe down the rights my favorite place for meeting clients staff. Whatever my bay and they've done that pretty well as well just like you know. They've said look. We know this is happening but he got the Oh like. Nothing's going to happen on the weekends who've already like pre-ordered some lasagna. Some Panatani they're also selling they're selling east eggs and Cross bonds through something BICA the collaborating with other brands. Which is good to say I think That sort of stuff is what I want to say. I'm pretty sick of like I'm deep on this current virus stats and data south and I gotta say just watching Youtube at night or anything like that one. I like seeing something that isn't related to it so it it swung that way. Now it was. Everyone wants to talk about it all the time and now it swung the other way of life. We all know it's happening will old allowing the government guidelines in the rules. Let's just have a distraction and some positive messaging Influences Doing this you know. In the best way it's loss and it can be meaningful flos but it's still positive then. I think we're finding that engages in which mall. I was trying to tell you the day. She didn't seem to happy that I was digging in asking questions. But I'd married. She like a lot of influences. Probably fresh right. At the moment the more extroverted once I know is the sort of fairy godmother of inferences. I called it has yet. How is the stable of talent going? What what sort of being the highs and lows in the last month? Yeah I mean. It's it's tough all of us and like I mentioned a whole lot of campaigns. Cancel and pools we Shopping centers in events inspire. Olga is ones where Brian Cancelled and then we had like a drink. Fate of other confirmed work. Edema signed contracts. Go who is well. Sorry I mean I think ebbing really About it they understand better pandemic and it's not usual business as usual in that sense and they're willing to eight a discount at writes a little bit just creates more innovative content to get that free and within the main set turning to talk more than producing you need on a new platform. Day really great about it and I think that's all you can really do is stay positive. Stay Agile and the leads are coming into us. It's really interesting as we get to look at it and analyze okay. We'll who you going for UAE. I during his time is it because of the penalty because of the speaking about nine hundred. Eighty don't because they're not saying you ole and it gives us some really cool daughter as well. It's funny you mentioned teak talk to tell you there's a few businesses that have done well from this tick tock is one of them. Zoom Zoom would be up there for shoal. I'll bet but yet to talk is very every all of a sudden it runs a pro. I think I see more stories now on instagram. Sharing teak talks than actual instagram's stories. It's because it keeps a on demographics onto out. Obviously if the canes me talk with debate on Instagram but I'm so close to study took account and doing the dance challenges like that's an isolated the saying instinct for you there because the is a competitor to talk which came out probably two months ago bought B. Y. T. I don't know if you'd heard of it. But it was credit by the guys who might Vaughn. So that's been I've been looking at that That is being big for bought like in terms of the amount of volume of stuff going on there. I think a lot of people in repurposing. Tick Tock soften and just using it on that platform but It'll be interesting to see which one comes out. I feel like talk has the ultimate gain at the moment. I didn't even know you have to talk. Like it's close to a billion now and we're getting a lot of inquiries about talking the brands when his show that they're cool enough to ticked off as well? That's really interesting. So it's less about cell distress or this cheddar cheese. It's like we're going to show that you're wearing outfit doing you dance. Challenge in Waco Knob on take. Two new ways of working is interesting. I feel like we really just accelerated what was happening in the last decade. I was listening to this. Podcast with Russell Hacker News saying Places a really becoming like a will become like clubhouses. You know you might have a bobby. You might have meeting rooms. People come in and out. Do you think they'll be something that you change your office forever? That's very appetizing. Came decide that I write the ping pong table and the beanbag. Yeah it's hard. I mean I miss looking in the opposite the girls I really. I miss that collaboration bouncing ideas around where on Google hangouts. Every second always channing ideas in rick chats than subsections of that as well. I think US communications importance. An opening across whatever talent is doing with that they will. He won grants outlook the competitor or just barely cross my personal preference so if laid comes in just knowing all right will would flex talk about this. Would you not and so? I think I'm struggling because I love that open. Communication shouted across the room office. But you guys. I think handsomely I'd love to go back to the office and have that clever ration- but it has obviously showing that as a business. You don't have to bathe it job done. Yeah but I understand what you're saying because attained your size it's still not as disruptive. Let's say there's three to seven stuff taught businesses. Most people like doing the same role so to be able to have that open plan office in throwing things around makes a lot of sense but when you start getting to twenty thirty feel like people that thing with. Russell was very appetizing. Because you've got craters and you can manage now planning and Strategy Fakih. Three or let. Let's Colette whenever this thing is is. We've been focused on a lot of that stuff. What what's your mindset around planning. I mean I was never a big plan. Anyway the full days and this is just showing me that lack when you make plans God lops and just disrupts everything and I think it's somewhat adversity agile and move with the market. I'm not doing too much planning to be honest. We had a few plans of expanding and diversifying offering the press nine a talent little bit offering some mole as we can make all market names but we need to stay. What's going to happen with this so I think all of our big goals for the Halloween push back and what is to kind of sit in that and be okay with it. And then we'll take a backup available again right so you really just focus on getting money in the Dole and and ensuring that things stabilize over the next few months sound definitely at I think as well like when the money is coming in and win the leads are coming in as well not just us. Pitching it but people coming to us with campaigns. It's like using that data to analyze the businesses. They were what is asked from this offering in an almost possession of cable change west foreign spending very little lockney budgets on is with us and if it is with us why and who they choosing or if it's not with us how can we pivot to spend with like using his time to really analyze. What what are we doing? Well what could we diversify and improve upon out of it? We can just be stronger than what do you think will happen to talent agencies during all this this being a big clean out in media whether it's made it production I've already noticed. A few competitors avows a basically the receivership than wine administration but they have completely shut down and I would put that down to the fact that I mainly just focus on say video or just podcasting is an example. Have you seen much about in your industry will? I haven't seen it publicly. I think interesting because we there's no entry barrier until we really anyone who black. Dm Any wounds Manager could stop doing it which is great. That's kind of how I started five years ago but it does mean the competitive can come up quickly if they wander so. I think it'd be interesting now. Black what is that made with a joint heads that established talent base but established client base? Like wager sir. I feel very lucky. That would be in the industry long enough got. We have his relationships with appetite. People in the brand manages a trust us they know us and it will be really hot. It's just I think Dole as a year ago three months ago when I think about it that there's not too many businesses like yours in the industry the the other I could think of is. Is it zoos? Yeah that's on. The other real influence a talent agency that exists. I mean there are definitely a few others but I think the beauty of it is we kind of had are in line and that really all of us because you know like socialites or you. More instagram models. We try and find some role models in people influences out of spin on it or the. I am Jays at the main celebrities. So I think the beauty of that ultimate fat lane thriving and I think that my main competitors who industry together for a long time where all still abiding so far but yet is up in Communist. Who would have thought? Oh I can do that at that. Same it's pretty easy. It'd be tough time for them. A like a like the angle that you've got. I've never thought about like that or thought about it deeply enough like that people of Infants. Good I mean you always want someone that is known to something more than two saints rampage. And that's kind of my skin on the whole thing. You want someone with presence in opinion. Anything lookit tally Sarah. Davidson shameless flex. Like the people. That really have sent me to stay in. May Add to the space that I just hung sells Personality opinion what was the other one presents presents. Yeah okay. So we're thinking about post Koran virus curling. What do you want to remove big contracts back? That's what I would love. I wanted to come back and broke it again in triplet. Yeah I mean surviving right now is great. I would love to come out of it and believe me knowing how he acted and behaved during it and innovation shining through in the fact that we thrived that would be an amazing way to look at us in the market. So I think I'd love to be able to then. He got his big clubs on poets. And we had some as ing ranch. Co Design and things happening Put on the back burner and some books in some exciting project. Sorry I think yeah we can come back to those amazing and then still have built. This incredible recall with brands during CRANHAM virus. Like imagine what we can do in a normal economy sort of the most annoying question that you're being asked by brands. How long can you go like? Can you do it in a free? I only have two hundred and can do this for that which I totally get it. It's tough it's tough everyone. Yeah but you can't free coming for a logo and it breaks my heart a little bit. That's why sometimes I'm bad at business. I think he's I am too much empathy. I'm like small business. Owner like the posting might wait. So Am I. I've got bills. Well going to say that that does that does sound like that. You being all right. I want to jump into some rapid fire. Questions will asking all guests. John what is your morning and evening will clock at the moment. I'm still learning admitted retain so it's not that impressive. I wish I could say that. I was exercising getting my youtube tutorials. In at the moment I'm just getting up and going to my leg cafe to get a takeaway coffee End Still also gives me some energy oxygen and it not. I'm I've been what an ethics so asking Kinda soothing. What if you had to recommend saying you've watching lost four nine on Netflix? What would it be well? Obviously targeting? Everyone's working on other spectrum too. That on Fox is incredible so this is a serious drama. Yeah that's that movie about the lady who sort of escapes from acidic. Jewish is a New York Brooklyn Bag. We in fact yeah. It's a very interesting area of. I've got a lot of friends who been part of that community and sort of left and of Saint. It's full on on like avenue. Targeting I watch thing is like fluffy and silly is that and I'll do research like hours on like. Niko time radicals about nickelodeon sorry with this especially at night date diving into all the background information. Why kind of love that destruction as well if you look at your frigid home. What's what's in the fridge. We just at a really big dynamic auto so it's kind of like healthy food middle name age. I I caught cook and also our broke last week. So that's a really good time so we actually Making a lot of like scrambled aches and targets and then we have like deleted healthy car. Isn't everything abridge do you? Do you like to cook? I'm kind of indifferent I and I I'm not I don't get carried away with cooking. I find it a bit of an inconvenience. I like to eat Lauren's in the same part I gave Diane on week. Was like one of the first lady's Eissa love cooking and I did like a- class with her and she's based in Amadeo and she does like French cooking classes. But you do it as like a group and you sit down. You have the meal together. Nice Austin like fuck. That's that's the perfect gift. Fear next birthday but if you don't like cooking maybe okay last question for you. What's been the best purchase under two hundred bucks but sort of kept you entertained during this whole period okay? This is an easy one so I bought the seats bowl. It was like fifteen dollars. It's honestly like I loved. The same does a kid and if I come across like a game but yet I've been playing in school and it's funny because both had city at a guy team apply station. So He's been on my faith on the couch and I've been on the laptop for the next road. Mike Wow this is really really like Lauren is obsessed with the sims like she grew up. Sodi but she's truly obsessed like she knows the language of the Sims. Oh it got like random woodside and she keeps getting service these ads where it's like seventy five percent off the end. Yeah I feel like she's going to re watch these softer out produces gone through it and have like this is GonNa be the clip. We've gotTA use all like I'm yet by. It's so much fun and it's literally like it. Just numbs your brain. Because you can't really be on your same time whether it's a kind of a scrolling evaluating whether you have to just like staring at you laptop and just zone out and yeah beautiful in that sense. That's good that's a good idea. Look Jen thanks for doing. This is A special series. We're doing just touching base somewhat. Everyone's on the male lives. Where can people find you on the into whips yeah? I'm always posting on instagram. At diminishment in volume eight constantly genovese underscore day I try and hosts symbol my content fame pretty images but definitely on day management with postseason highlights. What a talented joy during isolation beautiful jen thinks becoming anchor having me. Thanks the listening in to this episode. If you like it do you believe us a review on your podcast APP as it helps us continue going on a weekly basis. We do love reading those views as well If you want the shirts you can find that pillar all with our previous guests at Neurology. Dot Com slash podcast. It's any you are a double aid com slash podcast. What's the food video such uncommon show on Youtube and to keep up to date with behind the scenes and clips for the Shard can find us at uncommon? Underscore SHIRT ON INSTAGRAM. Until NEXT TIME GUYS. Thank you so much for listening.
45 - Dialectics
"Everybody. Welcome to the fundamentalists podcast. My name is Elliott Morgan this podcast, do podcasting partner, Dr Peter Rollins, did you forget my neom I almost said Holmes. With unconsciously. You wanna be with? Well, who doesn't he just did a post about doing a podcast on a couch in his garage? And while I was on a couch about the pike is maybe that part of that or have confused you to on some some deep level, and that brings us to the premise of this podcast, folks. This is a mixture of philosophy and psychoanalysis as well as whatever the heck I'm going through in life and do comedy and Pete does philosophy. Yeah. Yes. And and that's what we do and dialectic stalactites, which is very excited because first of all thank you to anybody who's giving us feedback or giving me feedback recently. I was in Boston and bunch of people says really sweet things about this here podcast, and kind of confirmed what I think we've talked about or we're talking about last week. Which is we got a good thing going here. And we're gonna keep doing it and get bigger and better knits can be real fun. But this particular episode I'm excited about because I. Not really, no. I think you're you're gonna have to really break things down. So we're taught we are talking about dialectics. Yep. And I don't know what that means. Why should care what I should do with it? When I know. It sounds cool though, something weird. You just knew it's got something to do with Scientology. I just know exactly. It's something to do with the guy. Cozy knew he Szekely killed a lot of people left their Soules on planet earth. Yes. And it helps you get clear, and it's going to the next level. I was at hanging out with valley vote kids last week. I guess, and we were looking famous elaborately is that celebrities that are Scientologists, you know, about whole all of them turns out poll Slough, it was debatable on how many are actively involved. But more than you'd think. But that's not what we're talking about. Because. Yes, funny thing is. But the reason why I said that is because somebody's somebody said to my friend recently said pizza pizza really into Dianetics, and then my friend. How to say? No. I think it's dialectics so Owen LA was somebody think we're all. Yes. He is. But he publicly is into dialect dialectics. Yeah. Not Dianetics my way, you've hard like the contrast between our lives at the moment was quite extreme. You've been just hammering tongs fun on life dot on my highlight as being going to next boo. To go to Penn convention, and I was like we'll find you say that I'm going to cat convention on Saturday. Which is different. And I'm probably not going to buy a cat. But Yemen, it's been a fun fun time. It's been a lot of traveling so much traveling and hanging out and being with grace, and we're having a great time, and we're enjoying life very much, and but both of us are sort of like tired as well. And yeah to chill, but it's my birthday week. And I have no intention of doing that. Yeah. Hoppy, thanks, dude. That's thirty to thirty two. Yeah. One more year before Jesus. Yes. Unto Beyonce Jesus that a lot more than you did. But after thirty three you can pretty much beat him every year. You're pretty yeah. Well, he fell off after he didn't fell fall if he was probably taken down. He had like height three really productive years. Yeah. Like in the limelight. And he had some he had a few days at the end that I think that's right. Which is pretty impressive. Yeah. The comeback become back. Come back to where it was really impressive. Yeah. It's it's been very thirty two. I feel very good right now. But it's definitely as talking to somebody recently inflict. There's this Beck song called dear life says dear life, I'm holding on and it feels a little bit like that right now. Just like, oh, this is life just got turned up to an eleven right now, not just with being with grace, and traveling and all this stuff, but there's just professional stuff that all seems to be like coming to a head right now. That is very exciting that I can't. Talk about even kinda talked about it in Bassem some of the folks the show because I have a big mouth, but it's Christian mine. We're doing some Christian mile. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm pretty stoked about it. And it's going to be a new channel. And it's all going to be Christian. My do you think have you seen Christian moms before this? And there's a singer snoop rule. He was very good at Christian, my Dowd. One St. h he was looking up the singer of snow the singer drummer considerable he shouldn't say this would be. All right, but yeah, many years when he was young he was involved in Christian mime briefly things some of the crap that I've done. Yeah. That's one point someone said because he's getting into music and this women's tennis. No. I think I think you're making a mistake. And you're very good at Christian. There was a point in his life when he was at a crossroads I still think to this day probably thinks he choose the wrong polo. Yeah. Should've stayed in his land. Oh, man. That is hilarious when he had to choose. I mean. Yeah, we all have choices to me. And you can't regret it. You can't look back. No. You can't you can't spend your days pining over your your potential, Christian mime stardom. I still hope that sometimes he'll brick it. Either the live concert of seeing them a few times live and thinking that maybe this is the next direction for them. Yeah. If all the sudden mid song, drums, stopped everyone was like we're the beat go. And then he came out and did some sort of like, I know what he's talking about. It's like pantomime ING. I mean, I'm assuming that's what it is. But in remember growing up in the church, pant pantomime was like a huge thing. Do these big choreographed mime numbers toward Christian songs, and it's always acting out like girl get real into spare. And then some would come along and a boy along I mean, Carmody was a genius out. I've ever watched Carmen Yelm, and we got drunk that night and watch. Because Carta Scotus it. Bite the dust or devil Satan bite the dust or whatever the there's that's just classic said sends chills down your spine. It really not the good kind. It's worth it, very cringing. Anyway, dialect dialect does that what is dialectics? Yes. So I mean, I mean doing some stuff on this recently, teaching a course on I was like well dialectics this way of arguing and philosophy that I think is Lou to practical uses it's not whale Newell nightside philosophy. But it's a form of argumentation, which is designed to Mick progress in thinking designed to kind of like move you forward and to start with because it's a bit complicated, but you could start with it's almost like you have a position. And if you think about it enough it often through up problems on as you deeper into those problems. He end up up the opposite position. Even though you you didn't get to the opposite position by letting go of your past yox'je got to three delving, really deeply. But then you start delving into that. And that lead you onto another position which bizarrely kind of brings you back to the original tea issue start at brings Bach something. So for example, someone might be a religious person and they start looking at their religion, really deeply take it seriously. And then they start to have tights on the Deitz come I of their their ticking. They're seriously not from lack of seriousness as like, they're really looking things. And then through they end up at the opposite position through the very exploration taken seriously, their religion, they end up being in a place where they reject the religion. But then they go deeply into that. And they find that they re discover something positive from what they left behind something reemerges, not the same thing. But the what they left behind. Hind returns more positive way. So. Chinese finger trap. Exactly. I remember. There was actually really really good morning get out. So you gotta go. But if you go forward, then you can actually be released from dot dot dot exactly what I do. This is what podcast this is. This is my. You're here intellectuals ation, it's toys, you get from Cecchi. Jeez. Yeah. You're just putting the mic Donal you're done. Yeah. What I ring. And now it's up to you. Yeah. Yeah. The beautiful analogy there is had the more the ideas, actually, the more you pull away from something. And try to reject it. The more entropy are within the more. You try to rebel against your family. The more you will actually start doing things that's always in relation to them. So you'll end up. You'll find yourself always going with people who your parents would hit right because weirdly rejected them, but your rejection as like this. It's pushing away that it's your more and sleeved advertise them, so. Yeah. The weirdly, this is the argument that if you wanna get free from something your actually go deeper into. Yeah. A great example of this is actually see it and psychoanalysis. Because dialectics you hobbies opposition. So secret perfume peace conflict goal new God. Whatever there's these these dichotomies we have in life. So someone goes to analysts because they like they go I've got a I've got a conflict between. Kale peace between, you know disorder and order, I feel like there are these traumas in my life, and they're gonna tear me apart, and you go to the therapist because you want them to help get away from that. So you won't see leave your trauma behind but the therapist does type of dialectic move. Instead of taking you away from your suffering, which is the NAS tick thing you wanna get away from your grind us, they pushy into your suffering. And the idea is weirdly the only way to get over your paean is by going into on actually affirming on accepting. So this is a there's there we'll get the probably three men things dialectics. But this is the first one which is that I'm in like, yeah, it's dialects people people tend to when they're given a choice between the secret in the perfume or between order and chaos. They always pick the good, right? You want the secret over the and you want the peace. Over the conflict. Not that's called an awesome knows this is where you want to avoid that dirtiness of your life. And you wanna get off to something really good area. Nas G N. Yeah. That's it. That's where it's awesome in its widest sense. Because no sticks kind of reject the earth for some of the reality. They're on. So it's awesome. In whatever way secret or secular. It is reaction of your your your present. Life of your sizing retiring to Hawaii, that's a type of weird awesome. You can't accept your life. You found the sizes better life. Yeah. The other thing people do is they. It's a form NAS as well. But you could like they're actually intertwined the order in the chaos. Really chaos. It's just an illusion daas kind of awesome. But then you've got resent them. What Nietzsche calls resent him, which is were you accept your life? But you kind of accept it. But you resign yourself to present your mom resent your moment got writing that down. It's I think we talked about that we talk about it in that pursuit before. No, I don't resent among present among resent. Well, it's the French for resentment on. I'm terrible sense. But the reason why he he puts it in the French is because he's making a distinction between resentment on resent him. So resentment is when you don't like somebody see ICU wail, and I resent, you know, there's not a problem without really. Yeah. We go and have a drink, and we work at but resent among is were you see everything in that light? There is nothing good that you cannot make bad. There's nothing healthy that you come up mic that basically it's not that you have the resentment occasionally. It's that resentment is the lands three which you see the entire. Yeah. Okay. So it's it's the Senate who just he it's everything. Anita saw that as a spiritual condition that that people suffered from cool dialectics doesn't do either of those dialectics chooses. This is the invention of he ago. He was the first one to work at I really is you choose the worse when you've got the option between peace and conflict, you choose call flicked butts by fully embracing conflict by fully affirming it. You. Find peace an AA. For example, you go to a the guy a is denying there in alcoholics. They're trying to avoid a confrontation with their their their truth dirty secret. But in a the first thing you have to do is accept what you are fully embrace, it affirmat- say in front of everybody I on I'll not even drink too much. I am alcoholic you fully affirmat-. You you fully on board on the ideas. If I do not you can be freed from a flip. The switch leaflet flight on the up look at it direc-. And it's face. Yes. That's it. So that's why it's incredibly courageous. It's like you have to go to the Dr place, you get life until you die. Yeah. It does dialectics. And if you wanna find your life, you have to lose your life. Yeah. Keep thinking to that this stuff ends. And it doesn't end. I always like you're like, I know. You look at the conflict directly in the face in Viet sucks per second. But then it better for moment. But then I'm like once I feel like I've done that enough times that at some point you should get like some kind of level up to do that anymore. But you keep having it's like the it's all of life. Yeah. I don't think you there's no end end game. Where you no longer have to look at the shit. That's it. If the on. Luckily, mental everybody. Should be a bingo if we had a fundamentalist, bingo, one of the squares would just be me in the middle of going. Welcome to the fundamentals. Yeah. Done that many times. But anyway, so here's here's a grid theological example of this. I mean, this might be boring to everybody. I don't know about. There's a great thing us Boris Pete. Yeah. Well, go with this. And then we'll see where we get. This theologian he all ties or he talks the death of God. And in Christiaan, the death of God has always the death of Christ gear. And all ties says that this is a symbol of something that happens in a variety of ways and reality. So there is the calls MC death of God. And what that means is basically the universe is this. If you take the metaphor, the example of the big bang, it is there is nothing or an infinite an infinite singularity explodes on it pours itself an asset pours at sell fight. Everything comes into existence. Yeah. So the calls mic death of God is the universe itself as it empties self called canosa's as it cannot canonical empties, self Butte. All creation results while you're thrown out. Some hot words our canosa's. That's the street the his. History can only go with us a little. Yeah. It means. It means self empty. It's it's a Greek term. That means self a lot. How do you spell e? Okay. That's fine. Okay. So dialectics, I still don't get it. Okay. Well, hit me with what's point. So well, so the well, the the Cozma thing is that emptying self, but this stylistic, so it's it's like as the the universe empties self. Things are created objectively. The objective level historic level. All ties recess in the seventeenth century goal. Died in history, which simply means that science new longer needed God as an ipod asus to progress. So we need new logger needed to Paul Cise the existence of goal to physics or chemistry or anything like the biology because of the scientific revolution. Yeah. Exactly. Which in the scientific method or the development of exactly which which it founded summer. Yeah. On by not Kia Motor religion. So as these people were very, they were very divide religious people. Most of these scientists dots dialectics again, it's not that they rejected religion. They went sue deeply into it that the ended up losing goddess. And they office was they ended up with botany. Mendel say inhale, they ended up in hell, we'll they did that way. Finally, cool. All right, but not emptying dot kind of like emptying of loss of God resulted in incredible scientific technological developments. Yeah. And then in the nineteenth century the death of God Hopkins, existential, I more and more people didn't need to presuppose the existence of God in order to mix ounce of their inner life to to make sense of meaning. So as existential really on this give rise to incredible innovations in a variety of feels literature philosophy and history. So this century you're talking about the eighteen hundreds it's hundreds. Yes. Okay. On early twentieth century. Okay. Really from like, the the from kind of basically. I mean, I think a revolution. As I kind of your of. No that'd be. That's more like twentieth century Alexi. I think that God probably fits better. The reason why say nineteenth because this is where Nick comes in niches a nineteenth century, and he really embraces, but it's the two world wars industrialized nations. The holocaust that's all twentieth century that that is partly responsible for this experience of the death of God got, but each of these are can be seen as religious events on each of them is accusing the worst. You know, it's the choosing of the loss of meaning on each of those choices lead to incredible innovations and developments. So that's that's an example of dialectics at work is that you think you're losing something terrible. You're choosing. The worst thing that the wars were result of like the world wars were somehow a result of believing in like, I'm still I'm I'm. Lost a little Ono Saria one cents basically with the the world wars, the growth of psychoanalysis, and the growth of all just help to erode this sense of God, he makes sense of the world. So like, the holocaust of the perfect example that was a religious event in that it, you know, as you go some some jeers thinkers talk away goal died and switch, you know, this idea that God as as a as a something that make sense of life and reality in one sense dies. It's not e-eh theism and since intellectuals ESPN the next stanchion level. Yeah. It is the loss of really the the confidence and some priority. Have you have you read man, you probably have man's search for meaning Viktor Frankl? Yeah. I really wanna read that. I think that's next on my beautiful. Yeah. I'm going to probably do just do a physical version of it. Because I've been doing a lot of audiobooks Lilly. Yeah. But I feel like that's book. I shouldn't listen to audio feels very. Like, I should have it in my hands. But yeah, I'm excited to read it, but it apparently talks about that in the sort of stripping away of everything lose any everything and the people who actually survived that era were the ones who were worthy of their suffering. And they they made they found beauty in like the sunset. They found beauty and flour. And they learned how to live in this tumultuous, terrible terrible life and come out the other end completely different thing that was like not necessarily atheist, but was definitely like experienced full on death of God type stuff at. Yeah. That's like like, there's a whole death of de kind of starkly highly mic meeting. But in the Luther which is Frank thing was yeah. Heidi find meaning after the death of meaning. Yes, again, that's I elected. So this fascinating kind of thinking is dialectics. Just like what's the difference? Dialectics is because it sounds like. Form of communication. It sounds like like used you use a tool that you use to communicate certain things like if you use dialectics, it seems like a guideline to make progress in conversation, which sounds very cool. But like in your description of it, basically does sound like X stench Eliza to Mejia sounds like that's the same ideas of essential move toward death and chaos move toward the thing is on pretty thing and through that you can find. Yes, whatever. So what would be what would be the big difference between existentialism? You could probably say that existential has dialectics dialectics isn't existential ISM. I that explains. Everything. Say say. Just dialectics wider and bigger. So yeah, I to be. I like to be tunnels is a definitely operas for the dialectic dialectic. Is is bigger than that. Yeah. Is fine and thinking for existential after existential, really? Yeah. So like psychoanalysis in its proper form dialectic as well, why is this dialectics thing? So important like Why's it? What's the is? It just because it's the best known method for Prague for me like having sort of progressive and useful conversations. Like is it because anything else is sort of leading you in circles is that kind of the main 'cause I've heard you talk about it a lot. And I'm like, no most stuff you talk about like, I get the significance of that. But with dialectics it's a little bit harder to be like. Okay. What's what do? I would. We what do I do the? Yeah. I mean, it's almost like it's the strongest claim is it's just nature of the universe itself that the universe. Like a mention that Cozma law. Is like this is high progress occurs. Abolition is a form of of dialectics Leuliette cereal world. Yes. Nothing but death. Yeah. Nothing about death, which brings life. It's this weird kind of horror show. Yeah. Discuss it's awful. Yeah. Beautiful awful, beautiful and off let's say you have a wheel with you know, like oil is the death of billions upon billions of years. But the what we have is incredible diversity of life. Right. That's dialectics happens out of biological level historic level metaphysical level 'cause MC level. And so to think dialectically just put you in the flu of reality itself. What I would argue. Wow. Yeah. Cool. Cool. I like that a lot cool on can help you make really good decisions in your personal life. When you think dialectically, you can kind of take for example, a why try to run from my suffering. But maybe dialectically I have to choose the worse. Choosing the worst as choosing the suffering. But it's affirmative. And this is why when this my argument, I this why I'm not a humanist. I've got or in the in the traditional sense is human as is not dialectic enough. Humanism in traditional form rejects religion. But in a way that doesn't enable religion to be reborn in the rejection. Yeah. So for example, here's one dialectic example. Is that so in religion, you have things like transcend something that is other than material world, right? Some some supernatural reality on. Traditionally humanism is reject without there is only materiality calls an effect. There's what your senses can perceive. And that's it. That's it being there as Bisley Adams against Adams, and ultimately than we live in a deterministic universe. So that's known dialectic because you stop there dialectic. Thinker says Nui fully reject. The transcendent fully embrace the imminent, and where he fully embrace the imminent material world, you will potentially discover a new form of transcendent and this happens. So now we have like in contemporary physics which is dialectic. You. Have the idea of a known, basically, we've particle geology superposition knowing that there is a non deterministic dimension to reality you have in mathematics with the uncertainty principle what you start discovering is an inflow severe. It's called non reductive materialism that the material world Ha's novelty built into yet. There is a basic level. And so again is type of dialectic not to the transcendent that actually leads to an offer me. It's not to the transcendent. But it's yes to all the cool ship. Yes. Shit knowing like do not. Yes, that's resent. Damore? That's the cynic. That's the you know, you're either in all stick. Caught up resentment or dialectic. Yeah. Cool. I. On if we talked about this in the last episode, but I wrote that joke where it's like. When I was I love this yet. What was a a my ex wife, and I have the same birthday when I was young. I thought that was assigned from God. And honestly now is an adult. I still feel like that was God's way of saying. Hey, I'm not real which joke about not believing in God. But then the day I wrote that joke at night, I talked about how I was kinda starting to believe in God again and my lamp turned on out of nowhere. My broken lamp turned on after after decades of being like God if you're real turn the lamp on. And then that happens, and I was like, I sure there's a reason the lamp came on. But at the same time how funny on the same day. I write this like very that joke makes me feel dirty because it also isn't like it's such a it would be like a humanist joke. Like at the joke is like there is no. Dialect chook. Because it is my way of saying that was God's way of say, not real. I do like the joke. But yeah, it was it's so funny like having those those days where it's like I'll I start joke that I feel dirty and bad about. And then something happens where it's like, oh just life itself. I mean happens to be currently it's difficult for me right now to not feel like there's some kind of weird crap happening. But also is after years of being like, oh, yeah. There's nothing. There's absolutely nothing. This is all all, you know, lights out dead end. But that's fun now. Yeah. No. This is this is actually had a dream when I was a teenager. And it was a similar structure to your joke is a dream in which gold spook to me and said ID not exist that that was a fundamental event for me dodgy right apparel about this in my work in various ways. I think that was my second conversion, and it's significant because again, it's not standard of theism, which is does not exist. It's goal tells you go does not. Now that signs utterly incomprehensible. First but's it's like think about it like Yar coming to realize Deitz from within your own tradition. So it's not that you die tradition. It's you go into your tradition. G begins he disbelieve by ticking incredibly seriously. I mean, I've vetted my vetted whatever version of Christianity I had from as far back as I can remember usually it was just being like into acting. And and if you're in acting, and you're in that world, and you in my parents were very good about like encouraging that, but as a result, I was exposed to stuff that wasn't common in Polk County, Florida, which was like homosexuals, and like people who were very kind. But people who I was told was like we're off base. And so I just remember my entire childhood and in the same thing with of Lucien hearing that people who believe in evolution were like these crazy people. And so like, I just started like from a very young age. Just like hounding, my mom with these. Questions. And being like, why this why do we believe this? Why why is this person is supposed to believe that? She was always really good having kind of like apologetic style answers. But something was always like now, this isn't something doesn't make sense. But I wanna make sure that it's incorrect before make any sort of big changes. And then as I went on and on obviously, led me to whatever path this has been on. But then it still been like it's still been better. But it was a result of taking it seriously believing. We're saying and believing that they believe what they said. Now, I go back, and I'm like these people must not really like they're not like, how do you? How do you just casually believe some of things are out there? But at the same time. Yeah. It's the people who teak say their religions sear sue seriously, the ones he destroyed their record collection. The ones, you know, re-mortgage their highest and goal and missions as often news people who Brit free of religion, this the concert only only a priest convenient Theus says that only when you get fully seriously does it deconstruct from within. But the people who don't take out series. They go to church every week, and, you know, their prayers revivals, they generally STAN forever or the people who reject somebody who rejects their religion. Then they just they some often not always, but they Tijuca and humanism rea- theism with the Siyam flavor. So they still kind of like embrace type of who'll nece on wellness or type of like, they still have has a similar feel always still absolute I hat now. I have a figured I also think more often than not it's rebellion against the parents. And it's like they never cared about the. Which one way or the other? But it's a way of rebelling against their parents, which is funny because like you were saying earlier you end up if you constantly trying to rebel from parents. You're going to do things that are like you're gonna end up your life is going to end up still being defined themselves. Have all these people that are like, oh, yeah. I'm an atheist, and I'm like, I'm like, I have a friend who's staunchly and is very like anti-christian and all that stuff. And sometimes like I'll know that you earned dislike v this this kind of pseudo vehement or like pseudo passionate dance, you have because I'm like, you didn't really ever you weren't in the trenches of actually believing what these Bs saying that's a whole other expand discovering that actually the the death of God is within religion need when when Nietzsche talked the death of God, he spooked people. He didn't believe in God nominee people knew this is like that actually the mob. Manpower -able is niches saying who basically the m- the famous mob on powerful guy goes into marketplace. With a lump trim midday screaming icy God, I seek God. It says that there are many people who don't believe in God in the marketplace. They begin to laugh at them that they say were as your God is he gonna see voyage is the child is. Scared of us as you run away. And the new old man smashes the lantern transfix his people with his eyes and says, whereas God, I will tell you go to dad and you have killed him. And then he goes on this incredible rounds talking to people he don't believe in God on what he's saying. Basically, this says you think you're enlightened that you don't believe that you've you've given up this belief in God. But actually. The belief remains within you. So for example, it might be you think that money will make you happy or fem- or you're still fleeing death. You still haven't realized you haven't basically become nihilistic enough. So nature will thing is to over come nihilism have to fully experience nihilism, and you're being on people often convert to avoid that. So in other words, if you're religious stars to brick dine what you do is you convert to another position, which seemed secure that you can believe in rather than delving into the experience of the loss of everything you just find new system to believe him a niche is saying you're what you're doing is. You're not experiencing the death of God, they're still like tents. They are just like hopping out of one and you're like walked through and you feel all brave and then you're like, oh crap. I gotta get into another tent. And then you get into another ten. Oh, now, I'm in the atheism. Ten now. I'm in the Scientology tent, which is it's obviously more ornate. Tent? They have air conditioning there. But yeah, it's a better tent. But yeah, yeah, that's it. So you're you're just moving on the the point four, and this is interesting for these death goal theologians. They say that the point is that your religion out of bast should destroy. That's actually the truth of religion truth of your position is that you should confront your own finish huge on knowing your own. That's what crucifixion experiences the it's the loss of the loss of meaning you experience, the death of you, experienced nihilism. But the trick is this and this dialect trick that if you fully into the Chris affects experience the Christopher Christopher experience. You will then experience resurrection that weirdly if you with light blinking can embrace nihilism affirmatively with joy. Yeah. Dan, you will find that a new form of life erupts? But you can't do it in advance. Yeah. Yeah. Nigga was saying so these people skip that real hard. You skip any says you're skipping. If unless you're has beautiful example races you've seen the lightning. But you haven't felt the tremor of the thunder in your being and then elsewhere, he uses the example of the Buddha. He says when the Buddha died it said that the shadow of the Buddha stayed on the key of wool for hundreds of years. We must not simply get rid of the Buddha. We must get rid of the shadow him to get rid of golf. But also, the shadow of got a niche. It was a very religious money was very pious. I mean, he was a credibly religious individual on. He is the grit overcome of nihilism. Yeah. And the shadow of Buddha would be like the equivalent it sounds like being like, well, I'm not really into Christianity more just think there's like a ever-present force the guides all thing. Exactly. And then you're like, oh, that's just the shadow of used to believe. Yeah. But what you expand with your joke. And then with your experiences that that actually. There's a dialectic openness to the novelty of the universe. That's not connected to domesticating with with an explanation. Yeah. But rather than joy of the of the craziness. I definitely feel at this point currently on life where I'm completely without like, if you I don't feel if you. Probably a believer. I mean, that's kind of joke make about. Yeah. Podcast. But like, it's I'm I sure like suspended in some sort of like, whatever, I guess, I don't know right now. I don't end it. But it doesn't see I'm not even also thinking about it because it's not high priority list. And I think that is also allowing me to enjoy life a little bit more is not take not like what ten to my. And what like what is the label that I have right now because I don't know. Yeah. I know idea. Yeah. But you're in breezing the perfume like you're embracing the grittiness of life, definitely embracing the pro fame. Yeah. That's what this is this. Nailing that book. Yeah. But that's that's what this dialectic side. It's like the the real move is between the secret. And the professor is always the profession the Dabo give you the secret will on. We always have to have the courage to the courage to impress our lives, which for the alcoholic means. I have to embrace it. I'm an alcoholic. And of course, the answer does new if you impress at your in alcoholics, and you accept up then you'll never give up because like, no that's actually the first step to give up on for the person who goes into analysis what I have to accept my suffering my trauma. I have to make peace with it. I have to I have to firm some way will that's that's going to work like, we'll new Oxy. Weirdly, that's going to open up a way beyond your trauma. You the I have to become a nihilist I have to enter into this experience of the radical death of God theological event. I'm just going to end up one. The kill myself was like no there is green pastures waiting for you when you're able to die on on life is about learn. Earnings at die learning to obviously at the end of life. But also you have to learn to die while you're alive. It's incredibly difficult thing to yet. Terrible worth it. Terrible. I mean, I assume I remember a while back. I was talking to someone who basically was a self professed alcoholic with an alcoholic. They're like that's just what I am. And they're like, I've not planning on changing it. I don't like the sober life, and I'm going to be an alcoholic forever. And I'm going to drink and drink and drink and what happens happens, and I was like, well, there's some kind of like almost. Like substantial thing there where you're like. I mean, first of all it was like a red flag. Like, I'm not gonna hang out this person too much. But it's like, that's so also sad when you like you can look at the darkness. But you're you're you're not doing it in a way that's actually productive or healthy for your life. Anyway, you're just sort of being like, yeah. This is what I am. This is what it is. And and deal with it, and I'm gonna I don't care who's life Iraq. Then like, oh, you're kinda like just sad. Yes. That's the that's known. Dialectic acceptance going toward the it's cynical. It's the teenager. Yeah. Yeah. The teenager. He's a it's dot weird move where you accept reality. But I think it's why humanism is non dialectic, not depressing. Sorry, but it doesn't it doesn't ally itself to hot transfiguration, Sean permission. And so for me are the two temptations. We always hobbies either Knauss the system or type of resigned acceptance. Yeah. The. Other one is a weird kind of -firmative embrace with a new with when this hoop is for me with the hope that in in non Brits, you will change. So he had no hope instantly. Like, this is what I'm on this. I, you know, there's hopeless hopeless in the sense of he he wasn't even open to the possibility that there was a mood of existence. That would be worth that. Would that was beyond alcoholism, nothing better. Not in the other end of the of this just like, I found my thing. I found is. Yeah. Total security. I get and it was it was like the humanism of like from the seventeenth century. Which was like a kind of like. Yeah. The material world is what it is. We have determines and whatever that's the philosophical and right? And then. Musing thinkers come along here here dialectic and go Ohno what we actually can discover is that that the material universe. It self is has novelty built into house on the tur- indeterminately built into that. We're only beginnings who really explore but he'll guest out in in the sixteen. Hundreds. Was he hanging sixteen hundreds. Yeah. I could be wrong terrible with Medina's or terrible with my kids. But I think he was sixteen hundreds. Well, I had no idea. I goes like thirties of nineteen thirties. So if you think you're bad he's pretty eighteen hundred because he was just before care, gar Nietzsche. They're all they're all kind of coming out of he'll but but yet, but so please don't crucify me. They're never me getting my if they do come out the other end to be resurrected if we were ju- Ruegen, we would just be looking at up online or not and somebody to do that doesn't they? Yeah. Someone who does. Big all studio space and everything we don't need all that. We don't know that success. We don't do run from that success as quickly as possible. I think we're doing we're Neil and not pretty without. We are. There's a dialect if between success and failure choose failure. And you find success? Yeah. It works. The other way Ryan his Wales when you're successful like only when you're successful unfulfilled dreams. Do you hit a real fielder? Which is you realize your dreams fulfil you so in the very success of your dreams as fundamental feeler. But if you can then embrace failure than you have a find success. So you get the thing you won't go shit often the work, but then you accept it didn't work, and then and then you find thoughts were real real life as I guess like a week ago. The valley folk thing that worked out really well, but we went in with the mentality and kinda came out with the mentality of like, this probably isn't going to happen or work. So we should just kinda aimed for that and have fun and not really give a crown and not pretend that this is gonna work in any way for us. Like it were that it's even a good idea and we walked out of going like, okay. Like by having that mental. Polity? We had such a great time. We had more fun, and it did work out real. Well, and it was I think a partially result of being. And then when it came time to make the decision of whether or not we're gonna kinda move forward with this very vague story. I'm telling. Kind of boil down to us like the only way this works is if we go into this with the expectation and the desire to only have fun and to not care about any of this stuff and to to give up this idea that there is like a carrot at the end of the sky. Like, we're like, this is this is the thing is going to fix it. All yeah. One more thing of us being for assholes doing what we love to do. And and let the cards for a lot of that Nick is psycho and kinda talking ourselves into to being calm. But at the same time, it it seems to work like there is a dynamic elements of that. And you can you hear the hints of it because you're right. Like if you went into that situation went like, we have to get this. We have to we have to get the first problem is if he did Gada, of course, you'd realize it's it's good. But it's not the things so there'd be a feel you're in the success but second, but if if it's not like that if you're going like, this is a good opportunity. We'll have fun with not. The thing. You're you're you've already got the thing you're already enjoying the massive your life. And then of course, also then you end up getting it. But the great thing is you get you'd none of us are thinking that this is the best thing in the world is just like it's a good opportunity. Yes. Of our thing. It's the worst thing on the. Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna see what happened on that later on that potentially months from now yet it's going to be a it's a very fun fun time. Dialectics what is that all the points? You have dialectic spaghetti. So the points where you you got the two positions. You choose the worst. You choose a -firmative -ly on you get to the you get to police in one sense is what's called the Coon signs of opposites Cohen's coincidently opposite story as it were basically the two positions mole together in the worst. If you can't do dialectic, she end up as a NAS tick or an resentment. There you go. Yep. Starts what I wanted to cover. So far the dot MI accents. Do you feel total dialectics mic sense to you it? Yes. I still wouldn't if you if you were to tell me what the definition of it is I don't know. I would say the first part of the definition is. I would I would say it's this thing where but I don't know what the thing is is it. Is it a school of thought is way of conversation conversing? They I I think I see what you're saying. It's a. It just sounds so much like an like a grammatical thing or like class thing today, we're studying dangling participles, and then we're stuck studying dialectics, and it just sounds like a a way. You know, conjugate verbs or something. So it's weird for me to hear the word phonetically. It just sounds like so many other things that are not what it is. Yeah. And the other thing is and especially in in the US, you're not tree into think. Dialectically? So the me and form of logic is causing affect so argumentation, as you know, these certain propositions these propositions there's a cause. And the thing and dialectic is it it's just a different form of logic. Neither of them ser- ser- plant the other, but they're different forms of logic children think dialectically very much. So, you know, you see children binding from one position to another their -firmative and their affirmations and thirty it's, but they're idiots exactly ever met a child, honestly, incredibly stupid. Across the board. Stupid people. Children who was yet. I get I'll get it soon as I said. Okay. Cool, man. Will it's weird forty six minutes. I feel pretty good about it. And I wonder if there's a good example. It's difficult because it is such a giant topic yet. So it's hard to be like this time when that without just being like saying something existential or saying something that is just essential. Yeah. The Evelyn stuff I love so much. I've been watching a lot of blue planet to lately a bunch of planet earth lately, and I have been doing well mall pretty pretty on marijuana. And I tell you nature is messed up and that is gross. And it is hilarious weird and discussing and beautiful. And if if there's not proof of whatever you're talking about on planet earth and blue planet to than I don't know where you're going to find because nature itself. I mean from like zoology stuff and college and like learning about evolution. It's it got a lot of the stuff. I think at hardwired into my brain. But like on a different in a different religion, my brain. So I can understand especially when it relates to have Lucien how stuff works. And that's a good point. Because like what I'm saying it works, and so many different registers. So you've twin tree and in the biological thing. And you can see it in the biological world dialectics operates as I said like Cozma logically physics biologically in Evelyn and then historically in philosophy. I wonder if two yelich like dialectics and philosophies sort of lends itself to existent chill essentials if the little lingo ball of dialectics fell into philosophy. It would light up the existential lit if biology evolution and then physics, cosmology, and all that stuff. And it's it's relates his thing where it's like all this stuff is all the same shit. Like, it's all even like when I go to therapy. And he's like I'm trying to pass off everything is like roses. And then I'll say that one thing, and he'll just be like, let's talk about that for second. Like forces me to talk about this like ugly crap that I don't wanna talk about. Everything's great. And then it's just. Like, and then when I'm done, I'm it's like, yeah. This is happening. And he's like, okay. All right. All right. And he like doesn't make any. Yeah. Diagnoses with it. He just as like aren't he's like, well that isn't good. He's like that's a concern. He's like let's do. And it's like, this is the same thing where everything is looking at that other side of it instead of hiding from it, and it's like I keep thinking I'm going to be great at it. And be able to do it out of the gate, but I'm not. That's because he see your experience there. I'm feeling the same in my life at the moment, is that everything seems to be Greer. I'm having a good time. Good. But there's a little part of me the things I am. You know, I am. I'm not looking at something that has gritty earthy and difficult, but I'm only dimly aware of mostly not aware of it at all. It's funny. Hi, you know, you'll know this as well. But you com- if you're with somebody in a bar. It's funny like you bar, and everyone's drinking every fun might be a nightclub people Danzig, but there's a certain point used at one o'clock in the morning or one thirty and everyone's having a good time, everyone's drinking laughing dancing, and you get a sense that if you just turned on the lights turned off the music on just briefly asked everybody look at each other in the ISIS for second. Everyone would start crying that the that. Then you start seeing then you start saying oh that person he's looking too long with their phone purse. Listen, he's kissing this other person, but in a slightly hesitant way or dancing, but they're self conscious. When you really look at high there there there is our and you start to go. We're all NAS ticks here. We're all trying to we're in the world. But we're kind of like trying to avoid confronting are. Real suffering traumas are difficulties dude. Go ahead. Yeah. Just basically just finish. The thought was like is that what dialectics kinda goes like we company the sole time. But actually were real the real action to explain his when we become aware that on actually go into the dark space. What were you going to say? Yeah, there's this video that I was shown by by grace recently news, basically, this the soul pancake, and it strangers couple and a couple of been married for fifty years. They stare at each other for four minutes. Uninterrupted I contact and you can blink. And you say stuff. And so the idea popped up for us to do it at the valley folk, and so we all drew names and leeann I got each other. And then Joe and Steve got each other. And we put up cameras and we filmed ourselves staring directly into each other's eyes for four minutes. And then we talk about it at the end. It's very cool. But it definitely is like immediately like a very it. Doesn't sound like a funny nose like head. Joe and Steve's I was really like they were just like goofing off the entire diamond. Well, the point is that you're supposed to like really try to do it. But you know, they're comedians. And so they're unlike they who are not darkness exam. The horror somehow. Jokes rather? But we I don't wanna spoil anything. But it comes out. We'll see how it comes out haven't seen the video yet. But I think it's going to be very fun thing. But it is that kind of thing the lightning turn on being like dead silent. And be like here. Let's see what pops up and for sure it works. That's a level of weird intimacy. That's like in the ideas. It's supposed to produce empathy to like it's supposed to create a deeper connection. But who knows? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Reminds me of this thing that we did an icon the community that Iran them Belfast were we got this for just for one night this abound. Police stations was like straight out of a harsh. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you know dark. We had to bring in lights from side. There's no electricity on what we did. We set up various things in different rooms. So there might be a in one room there might be. There was a guy whose half-naked scrolling things on the wool chalk and another upstairs, or as a friend is a cycle helped me Pete didn't really hire me. Never pays me. Yes. He's mean to me let me I still there to this day. Upstairs. We have this guy. Psych Wallace psychoanalyzing, a Monica. Yeah. I we first time I talked to you about this. I couldn't think of that name. I think fashion. Of those fashion dolls. Yeah. But then we it was like sensory overload all through this Bill in that you walked around a fashion. Doll sounds like an actual doll like a like a baby doll that. A little kid would have so person psychoanalyzing a little baby doll is also very creepy. That would be very creepy. This was very creepy are than the mannequin. I would say sue creepy guy fee ended while he was watching it on fabulous photos, part of the shoe. But it was a point because the psychoanalyst picked up these feels of blood and pasta them around. It wasn't really blood related, but it was like fell like blood at this is my this is this is my blood given for you. We we need to pour right blood for each other. So it was quite a beautiful little movement at the end of the psychoanalysis, but a friend of mine just to be fair. Yeah. It was very it was fell out of the exorcist for that. I would do whatever I could get out of that. Yeah. Well from frying pans, you went into the fire. You went on to the into a sale and in contrast everything else. It was utter silence. You're being led by guy. He's on an IV in uniform these bringing you dine like a haunted house like a Honda heist was called resuscitation. It was. Yeah. It was kind of a bite dialectics really modern day. Heaven's Gate tells flames. Yeah. I really wanna do one of those things. Oh, yeah. I can find one around here. Very but dine stairs in the spent. It was exactly what you did. All you. How to before he left was look at someone else than stare them in the eyes for a few minutes. It was incredibly emotional response. The people were feeling it kind of perfect showing that we actually are no sticks. Like we most of our time. We avoid looking up. The troll was difficult things that the embedded stuff. Venice. We pretend everything's fine. Because we. We won't choose the high rather than the low. But at the end of this experience, you're confronted without Lou. If you're able to if you're able to actually make peace on space for that Lou than the ideas, you transcend up there's also something to be said for just like there's like the mindfulness stuff. And if you stared at somebody directly in the is it gives you something to focus on which means that like much like if you're doing any focus on your breath, like find some kind of anchor, and then you can, you know, you'll be free or you can learn to be free from a lot of the mind. Yeah. Wheels that your mind start spending in and so by doing the staring at somebody directly, creating the most intense anchor. And so you're like looking at them. And then I'm a magin at least in my experience it like makes it very emotional very quickly. Oh, yeah. And the key has brilliant point you bring up because one of the interesting things a bite experiences. You're being looked up by another. But because you're looking at them, and they didn't say anything and after. Addity? They don't become a single person. They are just a key is so they individual who I knew Elliott Morgan child drinking. I knew but if we stare silently weirdly, become just a gifts, and the notion is a similar in Catholic church with confession analysis with the analyst is the priest doesn't an individual, they are ideas of self. They are just again that is looking at UNC Emma theon list. You're not supposed to think of them as a person who's married or divorced. They become Aghia 's and the notion as you can only see yourself through the eyes of another. And so as you experience, the purity of the other you come to see an object of yourself that you'd otherwise miss. It's beautiful. There you go. Well, so any takeaways from you know, I mean, I think I learned a lot. I think I also feel like I didn't at all. I feel like I knew I knew it. I just don't understand it is dialectic sinks. Thank you. Bye. Bye.
Why NFL ratings are up in 2018 & Did ESPN get too political?
"Welcome to the sports media podcast. I'm Richard Deitz. My producers always is Lou Pellegrino. Our guest this week is a very familiar voice. It is John ran of the sports business daily journal, their media reporter. He's been a guest on this podcast and he had his Portola straighted probably more than any other guests. And today as part of our media discussion roundtable, John z solo cast. So he's not sharing the spotlight with with a journal hill or Kate Abdo or Troy Aikman or anyone else. It is. John o. rand in the spotlight in the air. John welcome to the sports media podcast. That is what a, what an opening that is. I, I gotta live up to that. Well, yeah. I mean Pellegrino's there too. So I guess it could be all of us, but jump in whenever I start to flounder. There's a lot to get to because you have been very busy from interviewing Jimmy Petar at conferences to I know you're now part of the around the horn PR team. So we we have a lot. We have a lot to get to, but first off, here's where I want to start with. I want to start with NFL ratings because this is really been an incredible success story. And we when you we, we, we have talked multiple podcasts about this including this one. And if I remember correctly, both of us thought that NFL ratings would go down this year. Think both of us thought they wouldn't go down at ton, but we were. We both thought that giving just the trends of last year having at least in my opinion, you know nothing to do with cabinet or anything else. It just, you know, I thought the dynamics of television. We're going to lead the NFL to continue to go down that has not been the case this week. This year. NFL ratings have risen. They rose again in week seven. Outside, I think of the SPN overnights are up year-over-year. I think in all seven weeks of the season. So that's sort of the precursor to this my thought John very quickly. And then I'll let you have the floor is that it really comes down to a couple of things, but nothing is bigger than one the influx of young quarterbacks in the league because the league markets quarterbacks, that's how the league sells its board breeze, verse Brady manning versus Brady, you know, even going back to the old days Marino verse Elway excetera and there's, there's a really good crop of young quarterbacks that are interesting. The Baker mayfield's Pat Mahomes, Jared, goff's, etcetera. That are interesting to people beyond their local markets. So that's one. And then the second big thing. Obviously, the games have been really good in the national windows really competitive exciting games. You combine those two forces and you get a surprise increase in rates. Things. I'll now leave the floor to you. What? Why do you? So let's start there. Why do you think this has happened? Well, I have two reasons mainly well, three because I think you're right. I think the games have been competitive, especially the highest profile games and that that always helps the rating. But to me, it's more than than just the young quarterbacks because they've always been young quarterbacks. I think the NFL has made certain rule changes that have embraced offense and offense just rates a whole lot better. I mean, you people buying large will watch more if it's a forty two forty games and if it's a seven to three game. And so I think you know a lot of the complaints that you're hearing this season about, you know, you can't tackle the quarterback and defensive backs. Can't touch receivers. You know wh when they're in in the field on the field that's helping just scoring go up. It's helping Mark up and down the field and create the team like like the chiefs were in the middle of a. Blowout game on Sunday, and I was just watching till the end because like it's just a I, I've never seen. I haven't seen that in decades just a team that's as offensively loaded and with a game plan that the other side can't seem to figure out. So I think and talk in the various TV executive. That's number one on everybody's list. It's just offense. And and I think when you said young quarterbacks that that fits right in with that, 'cause so now you know, you know, is of of Kansas City on and got, I'm drawing a blank now, but Baker Mayfield of Cleveland, Goth, you know, Sam darnold. There's Josh Allen of buffalo little bit. I mean, we can name all the sort of I quarterbacks this year and then sort of the youngest quarterbacks Carson Wentz and Pat Mahomes, etc. John how much you think if at all, there's a gambling aspect in this with more legalized gambling in the states more attention this year. Even if it's a slight uptick with NFL games. Yeah, there's no evidence whatsoever that that's a popular theory that I see especially on Twitter, but the, you know, gambling isn't legal everywhere. It's still legal only in certain areas and the nobody sees that as being a huge benefit yet. But they do suggested that it will eventually become become on. What about the? I don't even know how you extrapolate it, but the the, the networks, not airing the anthem, even though in years past they didn't necessarily air it either except in the opening week a couple years ago when the new story. Was there any correlation connection between how the networks have approached the players protesting social Justice versus the numbers being increase this year? I do actually. In fact, I did a story on this a couple of weeks ago, and a couple of people suggested that the people that were protesting the NFL and they do blame them for their million reasons for why ratings went down. Just like they're a million reasons for why ratings are up. And one of the reasons was some people we cutting the NFL because of the player protests. Well, one of the a couple of people that I spoke to said, all those people left the NFL and whether they. Came back or not doesn't matter, but you're operating off base where they're not there. So I d- of of more boycott or it's not hurting the ratings anymore would have heard it in the first year the second year. And so they're, they're seeing a little bit. They're just getting back to football and the game on the field. And having this be, you know, everybody just wants an escape from from politics on our reality. And you know, here's football to make that. And that's really what the TV executives are trying to create. And I think that's what you're seeing to do. You see this lasting the last nine weeks, ten weeks of the regular season. One of the things that does happen John is you know, both of us have written about this for a long time and you know people like your colleague, Austin, carp and Anthony croupier really, really in the weeds on this. You'd do generally speaking late in the year needs, some of the heavy viewership teams, particularly the Cowboys to be competitive. You want some of these windows late in the year to have meaning. So even if you have flex out, you know you're flexing into something great. My senses that I think the numbers are going to drop a tick, but I think they'll be up for the year as I sort of look at the trend right now, what do you think when we get two weeks? Ecksteen, my guess is that they're going to be be flatter up which TV terms as a huge victory for the NFL. I think that you know the the Cowboys have to start winning for for them. And I also think that they have just a good story lines going through there. I think the chiefs are good storyline. I think that you know the patriots and whether they're going to rebound is a good story line. I think the play tapping and Chicago and where they're all of a sudden really competitive team right now in the TV ratings and Chicago. The third largest TV market in in the country are through the roof which is helping overall ratings as well. All right, Joe one other NFL thing I wanna hit on because this is now feels like it's getting louder and I don't wanna over. I want to sort of oversell it because me and you read for too much sports media copy. So there's no doubt that when we think something is big, it might not necessarily be clearly as big to to even the rest of the sports reading public that said, seeing more and more pieces. It feels like on Monday night football and basically complaints about the Monday night football booth. Some of the things that people have written about, I think we're going to be pretty clear from the beginning of the year, and that is Jason Witten really is walking into a job that he could use a year of reps elsewhere before he walked into. It's just it is. It is essentially the rarest of diamonds for somebody to do a Tony Romo did. And that is not been the case with Whitten. There are complaints about how the how the sort of the setup is with burger McFarland outside of the booth. Witn inside of the booth. There. People who don't particular like Joe tests or style, I'm one who does, but it's all subjective, but it feels like to me John that yes has two problems. Now, one, I think the general public doesn't particularly love this broadcast. I think that's fair to say. And the second thing is they're not getting bad press about it. I think they're going to hold firm and keep this team at least for another year. But when you are looking this from, you know, ten thousand seat view. What your take right now. Monday night football. Boy, they did. Yes. PF did no favours to the Monday night football crew on this. I mean, they everybody brings up Romo all Roma did well Romo had has one of the best all time play by play people with him. That knows how to set him up, knows how to work with people. He's worked with tons of analysts in talking about Jim Nance, of course, and he also has, you know, they're the Tiffany network. Do they still call them? I think so, but but they have the among the best NFL productions. They've been doing it for a long time and they're complete pros. So so Tony Romo came and was inserted in place of Phil Simms and and and it great ESPN they have a new play by play guy. They have a new color analyst. They have, you know, they're adding third person in there. That's brand new. They have everything's new. It's an impossible. You. So you know, Joe t I think is doing a pretty nice job is trying to. To feel his way around Witten doesn't have Jim Nance or or you know, the, you know the the best production people that are trying to help him out there. And then a Boettger McFarland as well as sort of, you know, he's just trying. They're all just acting on instinct. So I think, you know, I asked, I did this to Jimmy Petar. Oh, and he just said that, you know they're better than they were when they started, he expects it will continue to get better. And you know, we'll see tweaks, but you know, he, he likes where they are, but one thing that's a big problem, Tony Romo when he stepped into things, he got positive press from the get-go here Witten got negative press from the get-go, and now it's like ball of momentum where everybody's picking out his his, you know, every mistake that he made that are that that he makes, and it's so hard to get out from under that. I mean, we saw that with whose rules analysts see my Mike Carey CBS perfect. Carey made a couple of mistakes. Early and then he couldn't get anything right after that. It was just as ball momentum that that that killed him there. And that's what I worry about forever. Jason Witten Tonette. Excellent point. I would just say two things. The is off. It's off a ticket least and I, I don't, you know. How do I sort of phrase this? I, I think ultimately the reason is and it's pretty obvious one. They have a, they have a HR analyst, top analyst who is not used to television and that's going to, you know, we're sort of seeing him work through his his sort of indoctrination television in real time in one of the most important windows in the NFL. Now I'm one who I'm not particularly sure Jason Whitten's ever gonna be at least for me a great Alice. I do think it will certainly be better next year, but I think that's, that's ultimately what we're seeing is we're seeing in real time a guy who just needs a lot more reps for that kind of mega production. I have said on this podcast, certainly on Twitter and certainly calms and I'll say it again in my if it was up to me and clearly is not Louis Riddick would be the Monday night football analyst to me is the best analyst at ESPN. He's television ready. And I think you would have had a great broadcast, but we'll sort of leave it there. The World Series job. Is to me really, really promising for FOX. And that goes without saying, you have the dodgers and the Red Sox west coast east coast to historic teams, teams that have not met thing. You might know this better than me some like seventy years or something to that affect. If I have that wrong apologize, you have stars on both teams at least in baseball, you know, from Kershaw Machado. Sorry, John your nose fan too. That's. Chris sale. So if this thing can get some lane, I think FOX is gonna hit it out of the park with viewership numbers. I know I read today in sports MRs daily. That postseason MLB viewership is down right now. But I mean, unless this thing is a four-game sweep and we're talking about blowouts in every game. I think this is going to be one of the great World Series, at least in terms of the you're ship for for FOX in the last decade. What do you think it's so hard to predict? Because if it goes four or five games and the Red Sox run roughshod over the dodgers viewership isn't going to be what it should be. But if they go, if they go six games or seven games, this will be, you know, this will rival what the you know comes in any instead a couple years ago and they'll get a fantastic number. I mean, the Boston carries all of New England and they're in their national team. Now now as well. You know, LA the dodgers of course, carry of all of LA and they just have you know, known personalities on that team. People. These are people that transcend the sport and and casual sports fans know who know who they are. I mean, you just you just rattled off a bunch of them and and more than that is just these traditional baseball brands. The Red Sox and the dodgers. I mean, it just evokes memories. It goes way back. You know if it goes six or seven, it's going to be great if it goes four or five, then also be okay, but it's, you know the it won't be nearly as good obviously. Yeah, and one thing I wanted to say, and if I'm looking this here, I think the cubs Indians average twenty three point, four million. Thank you Douglas Pucci programming, insider. And the Astros dodgers did a shade under nineteen million good numbers. But I feel like I feel like if this series goes long, we can get, we could see seventeen eighteen nineteen million type. I think it could be really good serious. The way I look at us for joggers went seven games. I believe if this goes, if. This goes seven games. Boston has much more of a national following. It'll be definitely this go, seven, it's I don't think it will be cubs Indians, but it will be closer to that than than Astros dodgers. The one thing I will say is we're only going to get FOX and praise for this FOX really figured out a couple years ago. It's game broadcast when it comes to the World Series. Joe book, John Smoltz is a fantastic team. I think I would put them in terms of team comparing them across boards with whoever you think is really great. You know, from the Michaels calls where the eagle thou- whoever you think is is sort of a top team in that sport. I put them right there and they finally decided to invest in full-time baseball reporters who cover the sport on a yearly basis. Ken Rosenthal, Tom Verduci. So they figured it out to me John that FOX has its best game broadcast crew they've ever had. And I think it last year at showed. I think it's a really. Really good broadcast. People probably can have their own opinions on that pre-game show, you know, if you like David Ortiz and Alex Rodriguez, you're going to like that show if you don't like those guys, you're not gonna like it, but in terms of the game broadcast just purely objectively, I think it's, I think, personally, I think it's FOX's best broadcast. I think they've done a great job with that about the praise pre pre game studio show you're, you don't think a lot of people like it there. No, no, I do. Yeah. No, I think I think I, I didn't mean to give you mischaracterization. No, I think it's excellent. Burkhart is a terrific holiest. I think that to me that is our Rigas far and away his best forum. I don't think he's nearly as good in game the, you know, use the used. The analogy of Alex Rodriguez Domus be like a Bracha Lessner wrestler type where it's very special when he appears and there's nothing special if he's on every week every Sunday. So you put them on that studio show where, you know he's he's on for two weeks, but it's a very. Sort of compressed two weeks. I think that shows excellent. I liked to Keith Hernandez on there. I think Frank, Thomas fine. So, yeah, I think that's I, I really liked that show. Yeah, I didn't mean to give you the impression. Otherwise, I think they've got an excellent pre-game show too. Yeah, and it was just a couple of years ago that they appeared to be sort of, you know, twisting in the wind a little bit. You know, they brought in just a couple of they just try to couple of different people that didn't really resonate. And I think that they have just launched onto something and Joe buck as common denominator. And I think he calls a, I just like the way he calls a game and small, just my he does. He does a great job, I think. Yeah, I mean, listen, you gotta get FOX credit there. That FOX has to be the weirdest organization and they hire some horrible people. But then on the other hand, they have some amazing people. It's subject on height of television broadcasting, so they but no, the baseballs, all props, all props to them. All right. Let's move onto you. NBA viewership and the numbers have been. I think really interesting. Early early season that first opening night game. If you're a member was. Way down. I think Turner had that, but the overnights were really, really down. It was down from, obviously the Celtics Cavs the year before and forget. I think it was Celtic Sixers, who opened the season this year and Turner. Apologize. I'm wrong on that. But the numbers would just really, really down and there was people out there going, oh my God, the NBA ratings are going to tank this year. And all of a sudden the west coast games over over the over the next couple of days were really, really good. Obviously, the LeBron James factor is going to be huge. When I talk to your colleague Austin, I think the thing we both agreed on was that the east coast games of the early double header are going to be down because outside of Boston, you don't really have many great big market teams that they can rally around obviously have no LeBrun, you know, the Nixon, very good. The bulls are not very good, Toronto's. Good, but you don't get credit for that market in the US and Miami's not that great. So they got some issues, but the west is going to be in. Credible got LeBron in Los Angeles, you already have Golden State and other great TV team. So I think the thing I was talking about was with Austin was, can you over index on these late night, double headers enough where you can keep the overall ratings flat or up because you're going to lose a ton on the east coast because there's no LeBron what do you make of all this in terms of where the NBA ratings might be with the Jagannath, move of LeBron James going from Cleveland to LA. You know, I the way I look at at the NBA has, let's do a sort of east and west, although I understand I understand why people go that route. To me, it's all about storylines and because you have teams like Oklahoma City from a teeny market, that is one of the best rated nationally. One of the best rated teams out there because they have they've always had great stories from when Durant was there at the one Durant left, you know? And and so I think that this year just going into the season and from the all of the free agency that happened there just a billion good storylines that if they go through, I mean, look, if the Lakers start out when thirty you know, I mean, what are they going three now then you know. Then they might have some problems, you know, and and if your boys up there in in Toronto, keep winning, then they might end up with some problems because that's not great for for television ratings, but but I think that you have good storylines in the east. I think anything happening around Boston is is going to produce a storyline. I think having the Celtics be good. You know, there's, there's such a a traditional NBA brand of team. They know that that that always helps matters. You have good young players and in Milwaukee, I still think the the wizards play in an up and down ofensive style that that that that's pretty good. And then in the west, you just have so many different storylines going go coursing through that. You know, I, I wouldn't. It wouldn't surprise me at all the NBA ratings go up or continue to increase essentially, by the way speaking the wizards you basically Scott Brooks to just figure out a way, get Bradley Beal mad. 'cause Bradley essentially. Unstop. As he wasn't that raptors game the other day before the Rops. Finally one. Here's the one thing John though in lots been written about this, I'm a huge basketball fans, probably my favorite sport to watch. So I'm going to stay up to one fifteen to watch the end of Lakers nuggets Lakers jazz. But you do wonder how many even diehards on the east coast are going to stay up so that Turner and ESPN get that rating. I'm going to run. We're doing this pod now on Tuesday afternoon, Monday night, one o'clock eastern the what will the the Lakers went into overtime against the the Spurs. Did you did you say to watch it? I fell asleep fell, twelve. Forty five? Yeah, wanted to because I love watching damore, but yeah, I could. I couldn't do it the the wizards where playing in Portland and I'm a big wizards family in DC. I stayed up to watch that then went over to NBA TV caught the end of the Lakers game, and I and I hang for today. It's it's it. It's gonna be tough to continue this for for a full season. Right? If you live on the east coast, you did see LeBron had a nice three point. At the end of the game in overtime. Yeah. Yeah, that's. I mean, I think it's a legitimate question as to how many east coast fans can do it. That said, I don't like east coast bias and like, you know, you're not changing the game time for fans in LA. So we'll see if we'll see if the west can over index, but the reality is most of you would know this better than me John. I mean, the majority of the country does live west of, I'm sorry, east of the Mississippi River, and that's where you get your heavier heavier influx because of market. So I do this story once every five years, but ratings increase as Mike goes on. So that right by by eleven eleven thirty, the ratings are actually at at their highest in an individual game. So if they play straight through, then I think that you can see that building and won't have you know too much effect. Do they drop the since you did that story? Do they drop after twelve thirty AM in the east? Is there lying? Does it. Goes onto, it'll drop. So I, I guarantee you not not too many people are up on the east coast at one o'clock, watching that game, my Twitter feed, not a lot where either. I mean, it wasn't really going crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, again, I'm not one who you know even with kids. I've never been one to like sort of mush, Nick it up and say, oh no, the world is falling down because you got to stay up till the Levin thirty until you know, watching sports is it's a privilege. It's not it's unavailable, right? And so that is sometimes as part of the deal, you gotta stay up, but that's going to be an interesting. An interesting one to watch. All right. Let us since we're doing rapid fire here, John, let's move onto ESPN and sports business daily slash journal had a conference, not too long ago where Jimmy Petar was one of the main main people being interviewed what I puff purposes, John. What was that conference call? What was the name of that conference? Our annual conference, we added every fall, October, November. It's called the sports media and technology conference. Okay. Very, very prominent conference. John. Oh, rand interviews, ESPN president, Jimmy. Petar. Oh, this will be my aside John to now say, I believe I asked crystal plaza the head of ESPN PR for an interview with Jimmy Petar. I believe it was either July or August. What? What day is it today? Joe. October. Twenty twenty eighteen. Maybe that won't got lost in the mail. I did say there was no deadline on, apparently. Yes, PM took that seriously the no deadline. So you spoke to Jimmy Petar about a number of things. By the way, my head, I just had this image of o'clock as assistant furiously typing transcript to this Todd. So nicely done, rich. Someone wants to see a casually types. So I guess I should take those a badge of one hundred in very niche podcast. But so before I ask you some specifics about Petar, what stood out to you because you really to your credit, you guys covered a lot of topics. It wasn't a one note interview. You went to a lot of different places. You know, it's impossible to talk about Jimmy Petar without talking about John skipper and and so John Capers spoken at that conference before I've interviewed him and you know, he owns the room and easing gauging and he's funny. I mean, he's a journalist dream, and he he answers with a smile. He tows jokes. He speaks with a Plum Jimmy taro is hearkening back almost George Bodenheimer and he it to me. It just seems like Jimmy Petar is no drama, and he has a, you know, he displayed a good personality. He told a couple of, you know, jokes here or there, but the necessarily command the room in the same sense that that that skipper did. And so again, to me to repeat myself, I think he's coming in and it's just, you know, under his rule, there's gonna be no drama. It's just going to be. We're going to be focused on the business and we're going to be focused on moving the business forward, which skipper was too, but he had a, he sort of went sideways here and there and and and invited that Jimmy Petar is not going to go sideways. That's that's. I think that's a really good assessment. Let's let's take one of the headlines and that was Petar talking about politics and both. He and Bob I or saying that they saw some data that that people did not want to see the nexus of politics or or too much of the next us, a politics and sports on ESPN. So I got a couple of things to sort of say here, one, I believe them. I have no doubt that there was data that they saw that showed out. To, I might have underestimated the amount of people who were upset by that. And so I'll sort of acknowledged that and say that here on the this podcast, but and this is sort of the one that's where I wanna get you on. I do think there is a very important thing that Petar was doing and he is signaling to the marketplace that he wants to get away from any of these issues that clearly were being written about of his organization, both in good faith and by the way in massive bad faith. Because a lot of times there were things written tickly and right wing media, which would jump on stuff about SPN that was just not true was patently not patently not true, sort of about politics, airing on their network as opposed to political talk or social Justice, airing on people's Twitter feeds, and there's a big difference in that. So I wanted to just get your take of what. You made of Petar rose politics. And then Lastly, I realize doodle filibuster here, but I want you to go long after I talk. I think Jimmy taro is how do I sort of phrase this without sort of really being over the top critical of him? I think he's playing a little be speak and fast and loose John. This is something he said to you where he saying that we don't, we want to avoid politics. We want to be an escape for four fans, but we, of course, are going to cover when there's important sports sports stories where the nexus of politics come up. He in my opinion, John wants to have his cake and eat it too. And to me, you're either an editorial organization that covers the stuff or you're the ESPN and entertainment. Now I may have a different view than you on this, but when I heard him say that that to me just felt like kind of gobbledygook. B. s. b. speak BS the floor is now yours, your thoughts. This is one. Area where you and I have always had a little bit of a disagreement on here, which is this is almost like our speak for yourself moment. I think Richard, but the. To me, I think that there are business executives at ESPN that take a look at the way that NBC and fights and CBS cover games, and they just they just they, why can't we? Why don't they have the same problems with this then then we have. And I think part of the problem part of the reason was that they had an an overall president and John skipper who comes from an editorial background and it's like, yeah, of course we're going to, we're going to cover everything that even Tam casually, you know, affects the games and and when they were making that decision, there was a big group of people underneath John skipper that we're like, no, let's, you know, we don't need to talk about the president or we don't need to talk about, you know, congress, you know, we can talk about the protests during the anthem and. We can talk about, you know, when when I think the example the tar gave was when tiger talked about Trump, we can talk about that 'cause that that's a pretty obvious intersection and there's no gray area there, but but you know, having people on on their Twitter feeds or on air or on ESPN dot com. Sort of nakedly talk about politics is, you know not where not where ESPN wants to be, and and what what you know their viewpoint is if there is somebody that just can't abide by that they like, look, this is important to me. I feel like I really need to talk about it. They have an outlet for that in ABC news. I mean, they don't talk. They don't necessarily talk about sports all the time on on ABC news and so they can offend people over there as well. And so I think that this is really trying to get ESPN back in line with every other major sports media company in the United States than than sort of blazing a new trail. So a couple of things John, and I appreciate that. And we do disagree on that, and I'm one who, again, I sort of making. I've made my sort of feelings very known about certainly in the current president, but but I am one who believes special on your Twitter feed that your Twitter feed is first and foremost you and it, and it is your company second. But that said there are other places John where we have seen personalities used their Twitter feed for politics, including a number of people who work for FOX f s one, what's your thought about? What does FOX look at that differently in? Or is it just because ESPN is foreign away? The biggest dog on the block that he SPN when Djamil hill does it, it's gonna be written about when somebody FOX does. It's just not gonna get the same kind of attention. And so an example with a one is like the clay Travis example there? Yeah. Or or or Jason Whitlock or others who have at least delved into. To places beyond sports, you know, the cavenaugh hearings or whatever. What whatever else is the talk of the day? And I'm by the way whether I agree or disagree with their Cessna, I'm one who believes they should have the right to do that and should not necessarily fear getting in trouble from their employer even if I personally disagree with what they say on there. So the viewpoint of ESPN is at the people on their Twitter feed. You know, it's Twitter feed and they can kind of do whatever they want on their Twitter feed. However, the millions of followers that they have is a reflection of them being employed by ESPN so so it's it's impossible for even though she doesn't work there, but she's so famous about that. It was impossible for Djamil hill to make a statement as Djamil hill and not ESPN's Jim l. hill. And so the, you know, the the ESPN I know that he has PIN looked at that as like were investing a lot in. In you, you know, there are certain things that that you just have to do for for us, and it's, you know, not doing politics just as politics is one of those things. Yeah. Listen, I know at the end of the day in the end you take their money, you gotta play by their rules. I, I would say though, and, and I think this is an honest assessment. I do think a lot of times the rule sort of changed by the week. I do think discipline is different for certain people than not. I do think they decide sort of in certain times or certain whims what is politically acceptable and what is not that said, I appreciate your viewpoint. And I, we, the first to admit that I might have underestimated just the real impact that some of the stuff, even if it was online had on fans out there at the end of the day, and this is a truism and I've always said this, this, this is John I, this is where me and you agree the ideal world for places like ESPN would be to be as a political as possible because ultimately that would bring the. Dia balls to your network. And ultimately at the end of the day, that is your business. You're trying to get as many people watching your content as possible. And the way to do that is to really void any controversy. What I would just argue those, especially in two thousand eighteen that you're doing a dereliction of duty as an editorial place if you do that, but I understand you're put. I think also we're, we're on this. Is your coming this at this from a consumer pob? You know, both the athletic in Sports Illustrated before that, right? I'm coming at this from and I cover the business, so so my sources are all sort of, you know, my my audience is is our business executives and my my yet main sources are people in the business, and I'm not as so that's the way that's the way that they're looking at this. That's the way they're coming at this and I can completely understand if they, you know if the consumers look at it differently. Yeah, bronze Coker. This is. Sorry about that. Yeah, right. This is why. LeBron commentary on your, this is why this is why I like having you. I like having you on the podcast because we do come from differently and I probably have more talent sources than you and you certainly more businesses than me. And so I think that's sort of shapes probably both are POV's including where we work, so so I appreciate that. And I appreciate your your perspective and not everybody's gonna like either of our takes, but, but that's fine. All right. The last one John I want to go on is you you have a big story on changes to around the horn, and you know, after around the horn credit in terms of it's show, I particularly have always loved, but it it, it's longevity is really, really impressive, and they have they have over the years. I think gotten to be a more. I don't know if this is the right phrase, but sort of serious-minded show. They certainly got a lot of really smarter people on. On there and it's been rewarded in that. It's, you know, it's one of the peons most successful entities ever and starting August November. Fifth, they're moving at least the Doreen Tony reality parts moving to the ESPN seaport studios in lower Manhattan, and maybe you can explain this to me. There's like a whole new graphics package. They're doing like augmented reality. It's it seems very elaborate on what sort of reimagined around the horn for for twenty eighteen. And and that's what you have. One of the things that that I really like about a around the horn is, you know, it launched in two thousand two as sort of like a, I take of sorts, right? Just kind of like a bunch of people getting together and yelling at each other and just kind of screwing with each other. And and but it was technically in two thousand two. I don't want to overstate and say was a marvel, but it was unique. I mean, this was before CNN had their twenty bucks. TV screens. I mean, they had four people in four different boxes up and Tony reality interacting with no delay whatsoever with with each of them and it was it was pretty unique. They have not changed that since two thousand to, you know, about maybe two or three years ago, they like we really gotta get up with the times and change some things and ride home who I have a ton of respect. Whereas I know you do as well. He said, no, because the the changes we're going to be too much focused on, you know, the bells and whistles and less on the interplay between and the conversations and the interplay between the the the cast. And so he said no back then this he thinks is a lot. It will be a lot more seamless what we'll see. Like, you know, I, it's basically, you know the people, you're not quite talking to a hologram, but you know the guys pick yours. Gonna come out and Tony rallies going to be able to have a one on one conversation with. Body and you know, different bells and whistles going on with it, and it's kinda cool. But the whole ethos of of the show is the interplay between Tony and the four guests and then play between among the forecasts. And that's that's something that's stuck with it as well. Yeah. And you know what I mean? The although shows in the afternoon free SPN since their sort of their heyday in the mid to late two, thousands of dropped the lot of viewership, but percentage wise thing is still holding up pretty good. Given the TV universe, the same PTI it'll be figured that out that whole that whole. It's now a two hour block with high noon in there too. That whole block of of studio programming is almost impenetrable. And has been for, you know, a decade or more? Yeah. I mean, you know, the SPN's aren't going to touch that because it sort of still remains it. It's it's it's most consistent kind of audience. Again, it's down from the million, nine hundred thousand numbers that it. Was a number years ago, but what it does now in sort of that sports TV universe is is is still impressive. And you're right. F s one can't really touch in and I'm not sure they're gonna touch anytime soon. John to UC around the horn as a show that. Thank you think he gets another twenty years. I mean, the one thing about it is like all you really need to do is continue to stock the talent there, which they should always have including moving moving people sort of whose who are new PIN or sort of new to the ride home group reality still generally young guy. So if he wants to do that, he's got an number of years left, and I would think, yes, PM management's touch. I mean, again, that's a show that sort of gives them what they want, you know, consistency, levity. Even if they go into little political areas, they never really go that deep. So it's not going to get him in trouble. I feel like that show is got it might even have a longer shelf life than PTI because revolver revolve around two figures who we've known for all this time that that that show you can get new people to be part of the around the horn group. The drop off speaking a Washington, Ian here, the off when either will bond or Kornheiser is not on. PTI is huge in terms of doesn't terms of, I don't wanna say quality, but just comfortable nece. Right. It just the viewership to viewership. Yes, it becomes a different show completely. I mean, the the those to have you know multi decade bond. I think it goes back to the nineteen seventies for goodness, sakes of doing this and talking and they they're so different and they obviously love each other. And it just it just works and it works with those two and so PI can can exist. But it won't be nearly as much of a hit as as it is with with Tony. Mike, I can feel the same way with with around the horn, but only pertains to reality. I think reality is a real talent when it comes to that type of show. And I think that he, he directs it well, he handles it well, yes. Good ques-. And is able to draw people out. And if if reality were were to go on, you may see some sort of drop off there. But I think of of the four guests, you know, you can answer it any one of them in or bring out any one of them and you know, it'll continue to go. I agree with you. Yeah, I think realities that show is not that show anymore, I think. And they'll offense to, you know, I SOLAS, and meantime, and. Tele- show has and the rest of those cats that that's the place where it's pretty replaceable. It's it's the reality part of the show that you can't change. And I give a lot of credit as he said in your story. You know, he has gone out and tried to bring new voices and people in there, and he's got a lot of juice in that world. So he's, you know, he's not just a host. He's essentially like a hosts slash producer, and you know, it's good to see when guys sort of use their juice to go out and do stuff are John will end with this. You give me forty something minutes. I appreciate that that around the horn piece, John has been pushed by ESPN PR like Nope piece. I have seen in a while and this also obviously, you know, all of us who right probably can sometimes get into this position, but it has to be weird John. When you your piece is being pushed by the Bill Hoff. I'm of the world and the rest of the SP NPR staff because I'm sure there are some cynics out there. John who'd be like my God is John around working for ESPN PR when I know for a fact he's not. So is it weird when I mean, I would think at a certain point ESPN may hold a town hall and they just may read your piece and every home. That will be the town hall. So what has it been like John because I've seen your around the horn peace everywhere. I consider myself a hard nosed journalist, Richard. I really do. I tell I tell PR executives this all the time when they re tweet my stories, it just cuts cuts. My my legs off. I try to be, you know, I think I'm generally up there reporter, right? But that that does make it look like it comes straight from ESPN PR but truth be told they opened it up. They invited me to Southport studios. I got. I got to see one of the rehearsals that they were doing so is able to see how it works so it you know it, it's type of story that one stories type story that's really hard to do a hard story on, right. I mean, you can't be overly negative on something like that. 'cause you're just you're reporting on what's going to happen. And so I was pleased to get in there. But yeah, these enough Hof enough. You can la- plaza got into it and re tweeted last night. You took a break from his late Cuomo vacation or something. Well, the thing John is like that, you know me and you will like to joke with, we'll each other on Twitter. We'll call, you know, use the phrase lot, which is generally speaking, either a PR person or at age dropping and easy store. Usually transactional in a lap, but that's not the around the horn story. John, I would not consider a lot that's an access story. And they're obviously people who do not like access stories, but, but you did, you know, that's not one where you got, basically, you know, hey, this whole change is going to happen. Here's we're gonna give you the press release early, do what you want with it. You literally had to travel and and sort of do some shoe leather on that. So I would not. I don't have a phrase I need to come up with one time. I wouldn't necessarily call it shoe leather, but I did go up there. Amtrak leather or some some kind of leather, and I can confirm that Hoff I'm or did offer me a coffee, not a lot of time, but I only took a water. He did. I. Well, that's good. Don't take anything else. I, we've covered a lot on this podcast, but one of the things John when I have you back and you'll probably be back within the month is. Let us see if ESPN does any kind of outreach with one football. That's just one thing. I would tell you to keep your eye on, and I wonder if the try to hate the, I know people don't like the word over the over use of the word narrative, but let us see if they try to make Jason Witten. Tessa tour booger McFarland maybe a little more maybe not available to right word, but maybe kinda push them into places where they might get some good pub because I think they really could use it. And that'll be interesting to me to see if you know if I were going to go out PR advice I would. I might suggest that they go the opposite route and just say like, you know what? Work on work on the craft. Let's not. Let's not get interesting, not get people out there where you're talking about different things, and then it's easy to take shots. Let's let's try to man. It's too late now. 'cause they, they were out there before the season, but now let's just try to manage the expectations and by manager citations, we just don't want you. We don't want to do any kind of press blitz, even. What you're talking about is like one outlet or to all right. You little grit and grind Tonio and Memphis, grizzlies style. That's what maybe we'll maybe we, we will see what happens on that art, John. Anything else you wanna talk about before we get you out here you've graciously giving me forty something minutes of of free content. So thank you. Anybody is is still around. I did right win story this week that I think is a, I had a ton of fun to do, and it was one of John skipper's first interviews since a going over to design, and he just did a huge deal with golden boy and the story which is not business journal dot com is just a behind the scenes about sort of how he how he just got back into the game basically, and it was it's a, it's a, I thought it was a pretty good read. So I am hoping to get a little pub on that one. Yeah, John, I have not read it, but does he go into the go in at all into. The end of his ESPN tenure clearly think spiraling out of control on his personal life addiction or is this more of center centered on his new role at his own, which is a very, very big role given the kind of money that they have. This story is strictly about a design and deal that he made. I can say that when I did start to ask them about the, you know, the leaving SPN and and sort of, you know, is personal life since then he gave an answer, which I'm sure he's given to other reporters, and it's going to keep giving for the next year which is he said, all that he wants to say on that he doesn't wanna revisit it. So. A sit down one on one when somebody's just kinda says that I just I my my main story on this was about the deal that he just did. Yeah, I and that's going to be something to consider for those of us who've interview him. They design, I think, made it. They sort of reached out, wants to sort of keep it into sort of the business aspect of it. But I'm, you know, feel like if I'm gonna do something long-form skip, I think every question as to be out there, but I'm glad you've nothing else. She asked it and he I, I asked the question and he gave his answer in the question a different way he would have given the same answer different way would have given the same answer as well. So right it to me, it wasn't, you know, I kept doing that and would have ended up with a page thirty story. Yeah, and design is a really interesting story in terms of where they they're headed. Just again because they have a lot of money and it'll be really interesting to see some more premier rights come up, what what they do. Our John rand is the fine media reporter for the sports business daily and sports business journal. You can catch his work in those two publications. Catch him on Twitter where he's he's sending out interesting stuff and he is confirmed here that he is not a member of the around the horn, public relations department. So we've, we've, we've got some. We've got to the bottom of that John as always, I appreciate your time. I know you weren't trainers podcast a couple of weeks ago, but nice to have you back here. John. It's I was wondering if I was going to be allowed back. I have. I have. I have my exclusively tag back on you now. No, there's no exclusively tech for training. I can't afford any any anybody for exclusive as as well as you pay. Yeah, exactly. All right, John. Thanks so much. We'll check back with you soon. Thank Artie. All right, back in the studio. My thanks to John ran for fifty minutes or so of some fun sports media talk. I always love have an rand on and we definitely have different takes, especially sort of our POV's when it comes to the next politics and ESPN, but I appreciate him on and his. The one thing I sort of always say is, does the my, my opinion or subjectivity as mean, I'm right, just sort of my POV. So I appreciate the appreciate talking with him previous podcast guests prior to John rand, Rachel Nichols and Candace Parker were on before reaching because of ESPN, Candace Parker. Now of Turner, both talking about basketball broadcasting and other stuff. Djamil hill was episode twenty three check that outcome. Yahu sports writer, Chris Hanes, Renee young, doing great work for the WWE and then just head down the list from Adam Schefter Schnee Ghouma k. Rebecca Lowe. Brett mcmurphy, Frank. Sola, please, if you like this content, Lisa review and a rating and subscribe because that really is the only way this will continue. All right, from my producer loophole Grena for cadence. Thirteen. This is Richard ideal Siegen on the sports media podcast.
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So now I'm the pressure is on, let me know what I've done a I'll see if I can bring some kind of softball and you know intelligent commentary. You interviewed the right people for your piece at the athletic today. How about that? Look at that. Thank you. Thank you. Let me ask you because we were talking about this sports viewership, unplug the facts behind the numbers. You interview three dialed in keen observers of what's happening in sports viewership. Let me just start with question in the abstract. Why do you think fans care so much about television ratings Well some would say that don't, and like you know I I do find people certainly on social media on twitter saying why writing about this? No one cares although usually like when anyone says, no one cares like that and itself by definition is kind of a cell phone. 'cause you are carrying enough to let me know that you don't care which by definition means you care so you know it's it's it's a it's a marker it's. A metric for for the sports fan to at least have some kind of determination as to how popular at this event is We can do that by tickets sold. We can do that by Jersey sold. We can do that by anecdotal we can do that by number facebook or twitter mentioned. So it's just another metric that measures popularity, but it's an important metric because generally speaking most of us know what television is most of US still. A process are games and you television better certainly changed streaming has changed that people go watch games on different devices, etc. But by and large television is still well cable and linear still the primary way that people process sporting events. So it's important because it gives you an honest sense of what the popularity to fans. Why is important businesswise well, the whole business is set up based on these viewership numbers and ratings numbers 'cause this is how they sell to advertisers is how this is why Fox pays and ESPN pays billions of dollars. For these properties because they believe that they can sell that that time back to advertisers to pay for not only pay for the product that they purchased in this case ESPN and Fox make some money on it. But I've never heard a fan say their enjoyment of a sporting event that got a low rating. If in fact they enjoy that sport that that said Sport Richard. I've never heard a fan go. Wow I. Really love that game. Oh, only got a one point five. Well, I guess I didn't enjoy it as much as I thought I'd it yeah I mean it has the what the ratings has. Absolutely nothing has no impact your impact on your enjoyment or lack of enjoyment of the game for the same reason broadcasters. By the way have I would say negligible zero impact. On viewership now they have a big impact on how you process the game, how much you enjoy the game. But again, if it was me and you broadcast in the Super Bowl, the the the viewership numbers I honestly would not statistically change maybe maybe there'd be a hundred, thousand, a couple, hundred, thousand people watching less 'cause it's just you doing it but generally speaking that would be statistically irrelevant. So yeah, you're you're absolutely correct it has is absolutely nothing to do with how a fan likes or dislikes the game it's simply a measurement of the popularity of vacuum. Richard Deitz is a media reporter with the athletic amongst many other things that Richard Deitz reports on. He joins US today. An extra thirteen has a piece today at the athletic sports viewership on plug. The facts behind the numbers also talked about why ratings are important and they definitely still are, as you said, linear television is still running the roost here. But how much is this changing since you and I started these conversations my gosh it has to have been now over a decade since we've been talking about subject matter just like this are is it is it Eroding metric is the is the metric becoming less important as we now are watching on more and more devices is people are becoming unplugged etcetera. How. How has the significance of the television rating changed over the last decade or so? I, think I've been on your show down since the nineteen forties. Court talking about you're saying, no good So. We Any mean they're still important I you know the. A reality just for people who are listening like the measurement isn't good like it's not accurate it's not I would even argue close to accurate because sports get massively undercounted because there's not a really great way to measure people who are in restaurants and bars and I realized in Kobe has changed obviously or people who watch stuff at airports or hotels it's all a sampling. It's all an estimation. You know it's an estimate. Nielsen has people who have these set top boxes and it measures what they are watching in a given time, and then it does these projections as to you know what they think viewership is. The country but the reality is they've always sort of undercut out of home viewership. They're probably there's not a really great way to measure people who share passwords or twenty somethings. Thirty somethings who watch games on ready. You know just basically pilfer like links on read it, and so the the the measurements always undercut but the reality is like this is the system that exists. This is the system that all the ad inventories sold on, and this is the system that all the different places have agreed to use so that that's sort of the measurement that we're on things are changing for sure. There's more people who are streaming these games and watching television the numbers of streaming. There were still not significant. I think people and I understand it. You know twenty five year old and you're like, well, I don't have cable. I cut my court and all I do is watch know I got the MLB APP or you know or or you know a buddy of mine has a password of their parents and that's how we watch like games on ESPN like you may think anecdotally like streaming like millions and millions of people watching a stream just not true I mean it's just the I'll give you a perfect example, the world series game with the dodgers and And the and the race that just got held averaged lake I wanNA say like maybe I should look sort of look this up to get exactly. But you know some are a little under thirteen million I think for that final game with without streaming or anything like that, and then when you add Fox, deport this, which would be the Spanish language Of the game and then streaming those who watched some Fox's streaming service and only went up a couple of hundred thousand. So you know you you sort of think instinctively you're like, wow, like it You know how many how many people would have watched this game string was actually I have it right here. So game six, average twelve point six, million viewers on Fox and then it increases to thirteen point two, million viewers when you add Fox the. Fox Sports, streaming and Fox. The purchase by the way would be larger than the streaming. So the streaming numbers at least in terms of how they're being countered are not super large yet I i. think they're undercounted but they're not super large. So yeah, I mean in general like things will change and if we had this conversation five or ten years from streaming, we'll be far more. Dominant eventually, ESPN will be migrating I. Think most of it's great stuff ESPN plus I don't know when that will happen five, ten twenty years from now but that will happen, and then the business will change because cable sports to cable television will be far different. You know 'cause it's not being carried by sports, and so that's when the business will change but generally speaking this is. You know this is what we're stuck with. Now this is the viewership metrics are stuck with and all the different networks from the Fox's to the SPN Turner's you know to to QVC, this is what they all use this. This is the standard I'll go by. PORNA- clarification when you talk about twelve point six on Fox thirteen point two when you include some of the streaming services and Fox deport tests when we're defining the twelve point six, are we talking about people who are watching on Youtube TV people who are watching on Hulu people who are watching on those kinds of services they counted under the twelve point six or they counted into the thirteen point to The. So the twelve point, six, two, seven, million viewers that's on Fox. So that that is these. That's Nielsen sampling of you watching on Fox, basically depending on how you get to Fox. Okay. So you're watching down on a on a Fox broadcast you are you're being tabulated as somebody who's watching the linear broadcast matter how you get to lend your broadcast. Then when you add get to that thirteen point two, that's Fox the port is and whatever kind of streaming platforms. The Fox so that it's Fox proprietary streaming platform. I don't think Fox sports streaming is counting outside of Fox, but I could be wrong on that. So yeah, the the twelve point six would be rolled up if you were watching that Game Hulu because the presumption by Nielsen would be that you were watching the Fox broadcast directly Again, this is not a perfect system and I would again say sure that streaming is undercounted and sports in general. Undercounted you know I just think if you think of it logically and again, we're talking a lot about pre kobe times but just think if like there's a massive game going on and there's like five hundred people sitting outside obviously where you guys are sit outside San Diego five hundred people watching a game on a massive gigantic screen. They have no chance of getting accurately like what that count is. They may have a sampling or an estimate. Maybe how many people are quote unquote watching out of home, which is what like that would qualify under but there's no way they're I think they're close to getting an accurate. So I would I very confident I. Think the experts will tell you the same thing that there are actually more people watching sports in this country than we we actually realized or what actually gets published. Richard Deitz from the athletic joining us on extra thirteen sixty speaking of experts you interviewed three of them for this piece that people can find it the athletic dot com executive from Fox and executive from ESPN and Austin. Carpet works for the Sports Business Journal. What were your takeaways from what it was in their opinion about why we've seen these numbers not just go down obviously Richard but they've really really fallen off a cliff to the point where a lot of sweeping conclusions are being made here. But what were your takeaways interviewing three different people who dedicate their lives to these kinds of subjects? Well, I mean the my hope with these pieces and again you know I. Think for some people it will ring true and then there are just all the people who are sort of never gonNA. You know. They're they're they're going to sort of see ratings how they wish. They see it under politicals as PO politicization and they'd they sort of WanNa make their own judgments based on their own circle and that's fine. But M- my hoped with the peace is just if you take nothing away from it, you take away that there are multiple multiple factors as to why all of this new ship it down and then these three people who? Are Kelly might more they'll fox locadia being garbage business daily people who traffic in this stuff on a daily basis went through like what they saw in terms of data and why they thought you were ship numbers were down and there are some that have been pointed out that I think people can sort of lay people can just sort of understand the change. Of Calendar is massive. When it comes to sports television, you are used to watching things at a certain time. This entire calendar has been blown up thus you're used to watching the Kentucky Derby on the first Saturday in. May. It did not run this year on the first Saturday may thus what was the result result was almost fifty percent loss of viewership I mean that's A massive event that's fifteen, sixty million people normally watch that event who did not watch that event this year The Stanley Cup finals. Why was that down? Well, face massive competition in an election year had a season that like the NBA was stopped. So you you know you were hurt by sort of momentum which is a very big thing in television. Viewership the NBA which seems to be the favourite of everybody's when it comes to those who WanNa only put the viewership numbers down, for social, justice messaging and play speaking out about institutional racism, etc, and again multiple factors as to why that season was down and when people say, well, you know maybe you're one of these guys are just making excuses for the NBA. Well, the world series featuring Los Angeles last I checked and number two market in the in in the country, the dodgers one of the all time great teams famous teams in sports and an incredible series that was just so much fun to watch if you're into baseball. Fan. Least watched world series on history by three million. Not, just belief watch world series but at least watch world series by a ton down thirty percent year over year from last year pre. Kobe. So when you have like the NHL Stanley Cup final down sixty one percent when you have like the previous stakes down over fifty percent when you have the NBA finals down forty nine percent when you have major league baseball from last year down around thirty percent when the NFL which basically speaking almost ratings immune still down nine or ten percent you know when you have NASCAR, races setting lowest viewership marks of all time when you have the US Open Golf final round down fifty something percent. You know you start to see this stuff and if you start talking to enough experts, sort have realized that. The whole world is blown up, and there's a multiple factors including the fact that people's viewership habits have changed. There are probably a lot of people darren who don't have either time to watch sports anymore or probably are just dealing with their own personal hardships when it comes to cove it when it comes to their own job that that sports is not an escape that's just simply not an option. So that was the goal was to just like present the stuff with three people who Who Work on it every day let them show you their data and they're finding which included by the way but someone from Fox n ESPN in their findings research and everything else not finding that politics in anything to do with these major jobs and just letting people decide. But again, even if you see the comments section on the athletic was generally speaking pretty common section. You know there's dozens of dozens of calmest there who Are, saying you know you're not being honest about the NBA I'm Never GonNa Watch the NBA again the reason the NBA. Jobs politics. So you can only present experts you can sort of make the case at least try to make the case in good faith and then people are GonNa take that stuff. However, they're gonNA to take it but I would just tell your listeners at least the ones who are willing to listen like at a certain point when the Stanley Cup finals announced sixty percent and world series is the lowest least watch world series ever featuring the number two team in the number two Martin Market in the country tells you that everything screwed up it's not one senior, League Yeah I'm surprised none of your interviewees use the phrase go woke go broke I was sort of disappointed in that Richard Thought one interesting point real quick before we wrap up that I've been talking about a lot is the absence of fans and I was glad I believe it was flora Kelly believe. That this is something I've talked about since the beginning I mean even right now I'm sitting here watching the European soccer match. It looks terrible because there's nobody in the seats but I thought that was a really interesting point for a lot of people watching sports. Now, there's not that natural connection that we all have because we've been to these games because we know people at the Games because it represents the community and we get to see the community right they're coming to life right before our eyes on television. Yeah she's right and that by the way that's not something I would have predicted I would have told you the opposite I would have thought. All right. This is going to be one of the only things that provides enormous across and viewership. Up. And a lot of these sports I was wrong. But if it turns out I think there is really like a connect between seeing people understand and being excited like if your team has a home game and everything that's sort of like surround a home game know you're talking me I'm based in Toronto. Right now and like when the raptors play, there's thousands of people especially big Amo Jurassic Park which is like a little sort of setup outside of the stadium and I think it just creates excitement. If you're not even there, it's sort of. Crazy idea like there's a happening in your city and I gotta be part of this and maybe I gotta be part of this by watching TV. So yeah I think it turns out that the lack of fans there is something to that that that it has reduced for whatever reason interest in some of these sporting events and you would have thought conventional wisdom would have been like well, if there's fifty thousand people on the stands, you know it, they must only they all of those people must be watching on TV for sure and you know that must be. You can exponentially think that's GonNa Be Times ten times twenty hasn't been. Hasn't been the case and so I think four Kelly in that sense, we'll be right the one last thing. I'll just leave your audience but I think the only thing that's immune to all of this I think the only that will not fit into this crazy twenty. Twenty paradigm is the Super Bowl I. actually think that is ratings immune and while it may be down from last year I don't think it will be dramatically down if it is dramatically down. Then, it's SORTA like lights out. There's no argument basically than the other way. Then that's Sorta just proves that you know literally like sort of everything that everybody's saying is. You know is correct but I I think that to me is the one the one sort of television slash sort of American event. That made be ratings and covert proof and everything else. Richard really enjoyed the piece great catching up. Thank you very much for the conversation. Appreciate it. Thank you. I like that next time I promise you got that. All right, Richard deitz everybody from the athletic. 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Ethereum Bounces and Bitcoin Gains Momentum
"The show is proudly sponsored by. Try To Co. that's right. We got a forty percent. Discount running on courses right now you have got until Thursday. What Deitz say that. He's Thursday the seventh of my. If you do not get involved and get these courses now for the process that you'll sing you'll never see these processes ever again. So do it now or never do. It's up to you. GotTA TRY TO CALL DOT COM. Click on the banner. We'LL TRY TO CALL DOT COM for slash. Join do it now. We'LL MISS OUT. Get everybody welcome to the technical gust and I am back with a normal. Craig called voice yesterday. Knock down pretty heavily by some sort of viral type sore throat headache. Utah thing. No No you thinking. His not on Senior Twenty four hour bug. This money cup still wasn't feeling gripe but as the day has progressed. Felt better and better and I'll tell you what it's nice to feel good a game because it absolutely floored me healthy as well you are will. The markets have come green again. And we're about to talk about that one thing I want to say to you I and full my says this if your sitting on the fence about doing our causes. Today's died The reason today's days because it's a lost I of forty to fifty percent off. If you're already a client then you can still get massive savings on law trading full. That's fifty percent off on your annual subscription. The also get a discount on the monthly again. They have not done the courses before. Well it's forty percent off. Lebron's package that gauze fill boots get involved and let's get you through that full trading costs so you get yourself took position where you know. You're doing any like top ten now well. Jeez I'm not is a tricky little pillories. It was down yesterday so it was up yesterday but came off towards the close. This bitcoin market is just holding. It didn't pull back very David just continues to grind along and what we've got right now. Is bitcoin cross above nine thousand nine thousand three hundred and seven dollars up one point seven four percent on the Diet and look if we can clear the old highs of this most recent trend that gets above ninety four seventy nine? We'll have a pretty good looking mock. The moving averages have called up so not overextended anymore. That very big I think fourteen percent die. We had about a waco so ago and we are really in a position where I'm hoping to save further upside of Bitcoin. Still Whiting good tries to sit up of looked in the prophets of loss waken. Haven't had anything at all so far this week. So we'll have to wait and see what comes of. This won't one at present right now on. Bitcoin we are off and he's a nice looking knock. It hopefully break to new highs on the on the low timeframes so he can get some good seclusive for good rights on a theory of nail. Yesterday was actually down down significantly three percent down as well. They are down down down yesterday. It touched tests that ninety. Four thirty five level. We'll go close to that anyway And to diagnostic bullish. Candle right there in that crowd was on Scifi route. Three point two percent above two hundred to five eighty and look the diabetes. The best looking John. Hey back in that cradles not so good on the lower timeframes exit a twenty one point five cents at one point. Eight nine percent right now is the theorem sitting in that cradles beautifully. Well holding above twenty cents. Which was the level that was resistance For quite some time and we push through that now loss wake of course and Yeah just taking along. It is up one point eight nine percent. I said most ago. Bitcoin cash very sought wise yesterday. Well yesterday I was down two point. Two percent become regaining quality Dominance yesterday as well really pushing that seven sorry sixty seven percent. Mock nuts. Why WE SING. Bitcoin was up in the rest of the market will more or less was down. Bitcoin cash sitting at two forty five spot five right now at one point five percent for the day of the soliciting on that daily. Certainly certainly not as Nice as some of the other shots like theory on the daily Bitcoin. Sv was down two point nine percent the clothes and it's up one point eight percent wrought now sitting at two hundred and five dollars and sixty four on the doesn't look very similar. As a matter of fact bitcoin cash should become as they look very similar on shots that will enable but chocolate shop lot coin right now. Forty six thousand and seven cents up two point three three percents. It's little bullish candle in that cried. I'm a little lower haw. That sort of snuck in about a week ago five days ago which is going ninety Maggie. A little less attractive for those Kreider is on those daily timeframe but he's up two point three percent right now looking good. Swell is still below that resistance the tutorials and eighty one cents that being said yesterday we did closed down four percent one the lodge declines of the day. What up two point. Two two percent right now tools and seventy two cents. Pretty likely looking. Jonathan Lost Bonnets has crept into that cradles beautiful little bearish candle rotten as I speak. Da is being quiet vonts over the last couple of weeks. Short has been grinding higher but just grinding. We haven't seen any big pushes what we have on-site. Bitcoin is some of the other coins at it. Sixteen dollars and fifty one cents right now. Point eight of a percent of a groin and to so yesterday closed down two point eight. Two Percent Cod donnas held his a holding above that full point five nine cent mock and Holding Holding Holdings mobilised candle today. Far yesterday we would damage. Only point on of a percent. Rotten now is sitting right on five cents exactly up two point seven percent a therion. Classic got a bit of a full yesterday's well it was down five percent. One of the lodge declines. It has been one of them will volatile In this market recently. Quit simply because well. It's run up hod and pulling back as well any that cradles on daily shot rotten now looking very very seven dollars and one cent were up two point five four percent on the day at this moment and the rand at that top ten hit tron. It's been holding in that consolidation patent for quite some Tong yesterday. We we were down two point one percent today right now at fifteen point nine cents up two point six seven percent so wold of grain out the at the moment viable force old time will tell if we get good training opportunities so dart have a great deal writer. Obviously the white for that daily shot plus are under the white for these charts to play. Add a little bit but I get a little bit better simplicity on those low a timeframe so I can start to attack those electrode the lower time France but only when all the trends are in agreement it just increases probability of success. And that's all I can evidence If a fantastic dine again if you haven't taken advantage of the sow across the try to club dot com forward slash. Join to see exactly what you can take advantage of today. Ezio loss diet and get forty percents off all cool and trading strategy have a fantastic day speech again tomorrow for now.
This Is Your Last Chance
"The show is proudly sponsored by. Try To Co. that's right. We got a forty percent. Discount running on courses right now you have got until Thursday. What Deitz say that. He's Thursday the seventh of my. If you do not get involved and get these courses now for the process that you'll sing you'll never see these processes ever again. So do it now or never do. It's up to you. GotTA TRY TO CALL DOT COM. Click on the banner. Try TO CALL DOT COM for slash. Join do it now will miss out guys. Welcome to the CRYPTO show cried Kelp eeo heist and well. Well well. You heard me talk about it for quite some time. Now saying it occur. Recently Watt am I talking about well in day to? I'm talking about the splendid run. We have witnessed over the last twenty four hours on most of the top ten. Of course you've heard me. You would say me on Youtube. You were same me all over the place in my socials talking about the tent troll for this break. This benefited resistance hanging around. Ls Show has. We'd seen resistance on Bitcoin. We'd Sane Little bit busy since they're all theorem which CENA exile pay which brokered Elia. We saw a little bit there on. Bitcoin cash wealthiest Venus so much like coin. No US we so resistance their bonnets. Well it certainly slowed down. Kadan broke out a couple of weeks guy. Therion classic having a good run and Tron also moving very very well last couple of weeks for the big Steve. Yesterday of course was a big dog was a bitcoin and budging. George Emma happy about that. Why have you about that? Well I all the wedge. Bitcoin holder wedgewood theory. Mahala widget a few other bits and paces as well and Bitcoin had been lagging a little bit. Bitcoin was my largest holy. So as a matter of fact a theory had been my largest holding Because as soon as I solely you be studying to run on new to a theory and for the most part but I still had a very good chunk of Bitcoin and done very very well more importantly to that though as I am trying to say my portfolio go up in value that saving nausea ones. Because it's something that I did as opposed to just something that had and getting a little bit lucky nevermore point of view we've broken these resistance levels. What does that mean? Well that means it's uptrend is well and truly on the go. We've seen the consistent rise of not just big on many of the outset as will across the ball as also theorem annex. Place of late Haya that push higher having started a couple of we expect for the likes of Cod Don. We have seen the markets start to recover. Start to come good and guys. That's what I want to say. So what happened yesterday? Well I couldn't give two hoots about what happened a wide happen. All I know is thirteen. Point four percent went on talk with Bitcoin. Currently at ninety one six six as wrought nine at the front of Bitcoin cat white to see one of the front of Bitcoin as in ten thousand is currently full point three two percent so staggering couple of days thus far I am looking at by nine thousand if I dig at the cradle of stop loss by ordering on white to see what goes on as I speak to your now. What a wonderful time to be tried as well yes. They had a great day to up. Non Point seven percent closing at two hundred and fifteen sixty seven currently to twenty three point three two up three point five five percent and a dying just a magnificent trend that I'm looking for bitcoin breakouts. I'm looking NACI. Boost is on looking full Krypton cried all the strategies is the thing. I know what I'm looking for because I got checklists all things. I'm looking for well fan now on the table. They are now very very very much on the table. And I plan on Titan advantage that Saif that raisin I'm I'm ready letting you know you've got until next Thursday guys the seventh to To really take advantage of the discounts that we currently have available Out there in the course is forty percents off Wei running. We've been doing Effect we've had this issue Swallowing S. up the quite some time and I know the people wanted to be educated but that he didn't have the money time will we've dropped the price so that you could get the money and you know you've got the time for most people so go get a hold of it because you only got a little while so hit the website. Click on the banner and fill your boots John through pay rotten apple right now as I speak to you well. It's up two point two six percent on the dying yes I look at. It was a bit slow. Compared to the rest of the market to be fair was a little bit Tikki TIKKI TIKKI. Long slowly fought point. Six seven. Percents die when you say that. That's a slow day. Twenty-three cents point six where we were with twenty three point two right now. Bitcoin cash having a very nice move. Yes without six point. Seven percent closing at two fifty two thousand today with county to seventy two five point three percent a guy knauss trend having broken out through that level. You hope you speak to forty eight. They as a up seven point six nine percent on this day having a renewed surge in the last little Sort of that Tan. I am I work. Two hundred twenty three thousand forty five cents and again today Already renounced move nine percent up We are onto die. Which is bizarre. Because Y- where where it says on my little bold it says it is up seven point seven. I'll just refresh the the the numbers of matching but the already really solid solid move there on base a seventy percent already in the dice caught a magnificent move lot- coins pushed on as well look at how to pretty decent dia six point six percent certainly one of the better days that we've seen on Full some time. We're sitting on the night at fifty bucks right now. Two point three one percent Kennedy pushed through fifteen ceylon further north. Because it hasn't had that much of a break Ellsberg twenty one yesterday. Let me speaking of that resistance for a long time anymore belonged on. Bitcoin breakout top. Tried if you are. You say she's moving is got plenty of spice the outside close up point percent yes that three bucks ruse now at three dollars and seven up two point. Two CENT BONDS ALL DAY LONG AVE. Love me six hundred fifty and we pushed through with sitting right now at seventeen ninety for big profits. There are Wonderful Sky. Letting puppy do its thing and run really really liking that at the. Memento so what else have we got caught Donna? What we keep on driving don up three point three four percent right now yes. They slept on ten percent on the noise and we sitting around five point three cents a theorem classic had a good day up nine point six percent closing at six hundred seventy five six dollars ninety one currently up two point three six percent at the rand that that top ten mock. That's been trending beautifully for quite some tron. It was up six point three three percent yesterday closing at one point. Six two cents comedy at one point six four at one point four five percent guys now is the time. If you're a huddle you happy if you're trying to you stuck because you should be killing it right now. We've had some great moves but not only the moves you don't always killing to get good moves. You GotTa get good trades before you get. These moves thankfully for the way that I tried. Yeah we got the tribes. We've got the moves and now go the prophets just a matter of sitting back and watching what comes next. God have a fantastic thing. Don't forget it has already get yourself over to try to call dot com forward slash. Join and get yourself. Forty percent of those courses because you will never see this process ever again have a great day BOFFA now.
What Do We Do Today?
"The show is proudly sponsored by. Try To Co. that's right. We got a forty percent. Discount running on courses right now you have got until Thursday. What Deitz say that. He's Thursday the seventh of my. If you do not get involved and get these courses now for the process that you'll sing you'll never see these processes ever again. So do it now or never do. It's up to you. GotTA TRY TO CALL DOT COM. Click on the banner. Try TO CALL DOT COM for slash. Join do it now. We'll miss out them and to the trickle creek. Die podcasts on this lovely Wednesday. What's going on out the in the Marcus because a law so forty hours have been pretty slow and we seen anything else come in over the loss it'll period will not a great deal. Yesterday we closed up or up. One point six percents and nothing crazy but we are holding. We're holding a rabbit which was already closed at nine thousand twenty eight when now nine thousand and ten so hanging around that nine thousand region which is holding. They're holding they're holding. The A consolidation has definitely full. We all saying that consolidation holding obviously h die that we close and we stay up around. Those level is dragging those moving averages up. K which cradles aren't we really looking at their. That's keeping my close attention on at the moment. Just just a. How plays out from here is really anyone's guess? But the momentum is definitely with the The buy side. We have a very nice trend there on that daily and I mean look. It's nice in the sense that it's It's there as well wilder fond. It's just brought now in note in a period of pulling back and we're not in a period of moving away so moving higher just in that period of consolidation which really doesn't give us a great deal to work with that so at the moment wasted about flat on the said nine thousand nine thousand thirty one right now little bit of To fry but not a great deal to be working. We've seen some Some sparks of one hundred also on the Fifth Fifteen minute candle but not a great deal to really suggest that onto a theory we close the day down on a theory. It was down point six percents and actually came in and closed at two hundred five dollars and sixty six cents. We've got today's market up point. None of the percents or Brizo taking a little bit more hot than Bitcoin. Become pretty much flat the moment not a great deal that to work with from a trading standpoint stage but if that's a classic kicks in again that can change very very quickly except also one of the movies to Deitz appoint non-observant as well. It closed yesterday. A twenty one point seven cents at its Karnik Tournament Point. Eight so as up point on of a percent once again. Not much really destroy. Go out on the low to mid timeframes either as far as training opportunities concerned they coin. Cassius is so they did close up point five percent it actually closed day at two forty seven to forty two forty seven spot three five site pretty much flat on the day and another that. He's very very flat with not a great deal there for to work with at the moment unfortunately on the base vague well yesterday. What happened yesterday? Sheesh not law it did close up two percent on the news at two hundred dollars and five cents standpoint night five all of the percent at the moment and a again not much going on lot coin point six percent up at this moment as I speak to you yesterday. Closed down point one of the percents that is up point six. Percent Sofa nor the great deal going on a guy and they will pretty much mirroring each other threat. Those low timeframes ails closed. Pretty much flat yesterday and it closed seventy seven below the resistance to ninety one. Cents is not much going on there dying of show you probably quite a way. Bonds closed down one percent yesterday at sixteen dollars ninety cents and is down point one percent today not much on as the rest of the market is not doing anything. Either one percent down cod Donna. Another one very quiet dies nothing at all to speak Timeframe or even timeframes to be fair theorem classic also much in that market of nothingness. Damn point three percent yesterday currently literally dead flat on today's trading session. Nothing to speak of and will randomly up with tron holding that consolidation very similar. Let's be coin. Nothing going on guys and nothing that toll. So what do we do when there's nothing to do? Well I'll tell you what we do in Zion. Today we don't do anything. It's a message. Put too much subscribes this morning. Really just telling paper it's it's right now is a really important Tom. Tables development is tried as. It's knowing that it's a naught to try. That's really really important. It's okay not to try. It's during these periods if you do try and try when there's nothing going on it's very easy to lose money. I don't want you to do that. Nobody needs to lose money. If the trading entropy conditions this is a period where if you don't stick to your rules and for those trends you will get hurt. Now don't forget to get across to try to club dot com. We have got more died tomorrow. Midnight we'll be able to get forty percents of the Bronx coast fifty percent of our products as well. It's gotTA GO TRY TO COPE DOT com fantastic died. They took it off now.
A New Life: How small steps led to big changes
"Hello and welcome to healthy living with lemme powered by a mix health. My name is let me assure Zinger, I'm the owner and founder of AmEx help if you're interested in living a healthy lifestyle. Whether you've been doing so for years or you're just beginning your journey today. This podcast is going to be for you every episode we tackle a topic in the world of health and help you take the steps that are necessary to live your best life. Today's episode were interviewing one of AmEx helps original clients at major success story, Heather Heather has lost eighty three pounds and twenty five inches during her time with a mex- how she went from a tired insecure individual who never end and surely wasn't happy with her life to an active engaged mother of three energetic boys and a runner a five races with goals of many more to come as she happily shops for a whole new wardrobe listen in as she share. Does your struggles successes and her support for others who are in the shoes she used to wear when she began her journey just twenty two months ago? All right. Heather, why don't you? Go ahead and tell us a little bit about yourself. I am thirty six I grew up in fair for high. I have three sons married been married for ten years. I have an eight seven and two year old. They're all very active. Keep me busy. And I work fulltime on top of that. So I'm constantly on the go. What's your job paralegal? So are you sitting of most of the day? Yes. Okay. So your typical job. Yes. In an office at a desk type all day. Okay. And what has been your total weight loss and over what time span has been. I've lost eighty three pounds in twenty two months. Awesome. And then when you look back think about when you first started to really gain weight when was that it was when I got pregnant with my first son I had. Had to be on a steroid for like, four months of my pregnancy. And I gained a lot of my weight when I was pregnant with him. And then I got pregnant shortly after I had him with my second. So I didn't have time to get the weight off and it just spiraled out of control from there. And then after I had my second one, they're seventeen months part. I I just could never get it off. I tried many different diets what are some of the diets that you've tried before? I did beach body the twenty one day fix the Atkins diet it I even resorted to try and diet pills. I would you know, try to exercise here there. But would never stick to anything. And I just never saw any weight loss with any of it. So I would just give up and go right back to the way. I was eating the way. I was I wouldn't I just go right back to how I was living life before even when I was pregnant I just. I think I then we had personal issues going on. And I ran a food for that. So that was how I handle so food was your comfort. Yes, you are stressed when you're upset was there any type of food that you would turn to or preferred in those times now just anything, and when you ate do you feel like you're you're eating was out of control. It was not a control, and I would sit at a desk all day, and I had I was bored. You know, a lot of time. So I would just grab something and eat it and. I'd have been didn't matter what it was. And didn't. So you identify with eating out of boredom as well as for motion comfort. Yes, I think that's very common with the under Digital's. Yeah. So you hinted a little bit at it. But wouldn't you were at your heaviest what was life like for you on a day-to-day basis? How did you feel what was your self esteem like? I was tired. I was always in pain. I remember my feet hurting so bad when I would just walk. I felt like my feet were always throbbing. I was chasing kids and tired ran out of energy half the time trying to chase them. I was miserable. I you know, I was miserable in my marriage. I felt like I just looked horrible the time. I hated going out in public. I didn't wanna do anything. I just wanted to stay at home. I would not socialize with anybody. And did you awake at anytime? Try to hide yourself in different. Like, did you darker colors bag your clothes compared to what you do now? Yes. And I always had to wear just bagging clothes and make sure where something underneath that to try to hide everything as much as I could. And then I realized at one point when I was in my largest size. I was like this is just out of control. I've got to do something. How many sizes have dropped until? Eight ties awesome. And I mean when we first met you wouldn't wear shorts. You wouldn't wear leggings. Nope. And now you'll wear both and not feel self conscious while you do. Hopefully. So you got some good legs. Now. So we talked about kind of the difference Deitz tried. Why did you feel like they didn't work? It was too much work to put into it, especially twenty one day fix. I did not have the time to Porsche out my food figure out what I can have each day. I just didn't have time to do that with two little kids, you know, under two I didn't make time for myself. It was all about my kids. And so and then I did the Athens. And that's just not I just couldn't do it. I was like, oh, yeah. Let's cut out all carbs in the bread. And I just I wasn't going to do that. But the main thing was time and the things that I that I was doing it just wasn't Tena Bill. I couldn't keep up with it. And then what about exercise you did exercise some I would I would try to say, yeah. Get into walk here and there but now on a regular basis. No, I would never exercise because you were conscious conscious. I didn't have the motivation. I would use my kids as an excuse. I would wanna stay, you know, I'll be like, oh, I have to do this. And I have to. I didn't I didn't put myself I for a long time after I had my kids. It was all about them. And then you take that takes focus away from your marriage, and then your marriage start society wanna try to get back to get that back in order everything sites. I think those are some key huge point than probably a lot of women can identify with not putting yourself I feel guilty. If you do. Thinking that you know, you have to send your world or on your kids. Yeah. I think that's huge. So recently, it's been within the last two years. You've completely changed. What was a it? What was the light bulb moment? What made it switch in work that all those other times didn't. Well, I was at my heaviest when I got pregnant with my third, and so I was so scared because I thought, nah, I'm going to gain even more weight in be at my heaviest that I've ever been in because growing up I didn't have to deal with this. I deal with my weight gain until I started getting pregnant, but it was after I had my son in two thousand sixteen I had met you at that point. And we'd had just discussions, and I was like I've got to do something. I was just tired of looking at myself in the mirror and how heavy I was. I was tired of it. And we met we discuss just diet change alone. At that point. We weren't talking Cise and just by doing those little things I started seeing weight loss. I lost like thirty pounds just without any exercise, just by diet only. I don't know. I said, well, I. Started wanting to start to exercise and get into running. And I started doing that. And then again seeing changes the way coming off, and I could do this. And I just haven't been able to stop sense. Like, I I actually enjoy it now for some ever thought I would enjoy exercising as much as I do your hooked yet. You you exercise four to five days a week. And I mean, you do a variety of things it's not the same all the time. But let's brag on you little bit. Because you went from never running, right? You were not a runner ever. And then in you started the journey was I guess the winter of seventeen and then February of eighteen you did your first five K. Yes. Yes. And then you did your first ten K in April. Yes. And then. Then in October. You did your first half. Yes. Followed by the month later three weeks, later, a second half second half. Yes. So within a time span of about a year, you have from not running at all not even walking on regular basis to running after marathon to within a month of each other. And that's a mazing and this year already you have what three plan jets three halves and then other races as well. So you come from, you know, at that time what you were like thirty five thirty four when you first started not like you're an eighteen year old. You've had three kids had a kid that that time was one ish. And now you have achieved all these goals that people often say I could never do. Right. Right. So what made you change from IT? Can't do this to an I can do this mindset. What do you think is that was that because it had to come down to having some self esteem? Finally, right. Yeah. I saw all this week come off. And it was amazing. How much better I felt like I felt like I could keep it up, and I could do all of it. Plus, I had my kids watching me. I mean, my oldest is was seven six seven at the time. You know, and he saw me doing it. And he would make comments, and I just knew that if I didn't wanna stop and I. You just have to tell yourself you can do this. And by the kids watch everything you do. And so I just had to keep pushing myself. It's not been easy. It was hard work. But if you tell yourself, you can do it you can do it. And no matter your size your age. You can do it. Do you ever still have days where it's hard? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Thursdays. His as I don't want to do it. But I tell myself just you're going to have an a few days you'll have a day off. And then that after that day comes I'm like, okay. Let's do this again. Like, I'm ready. I can't imagine it not being a part of my life at this point. Which is crazy. I think about from where it was almost two years ago. So talk about your diet. What has changed are you currently on a diet? Not not would not do. I've. Changed a lot of eating habits. I've cut back my portions. I cut out pop. I drink a lot more water than I was drinking main thing is just watching what I eat just small little changes. Which was what you've told me from the very beginning. You just gave me small changes to make we cook at home a lot more. I try to just keep healthier options around for everybody. And sometimes they don't like that. Tried to eat a lot more fruits and vegetables is the main thing that I I'm vegetables I struggled with growing up. But now I love him and can like go without him at a meal. I pretty much have them every night for dinner, but portions were my main because I used to just portions I could just eat Nate Nate once you cut back it makes it a lot easier. So you're not starving you feel satisfied. Yeah. Now, I had to teach myself because the more I've worked out I had to teach myself that you need to eat a little more. I have noticed that you're entitled goes up and you get hungry. And so I have to tell myself you need to eat, and I've had teach myself how to reach for a healthy snack in what healthy snacks. There are what actions. I have. That's one thing. I've noticed I am hungry working out more, but what your favorite healthy snack? You're gonna laugh, but I will run vegetables before around anything else, and you just do frozen bag microwave, it did you put anything on it? Nope. Just eat it that you love it. Now, I love not even out salt on it, but almonds I love to just have a handful almonds. That's the one because I let crunch but. Yeah vegetables is the one thing I really try to run to. That's great. That's really good. What's the hardest thing though about changing your lifestyle? The one thing. I the hardest thing was being away from my family's much as I've been away from that was the one thing I struggled with in the beginning to exercise to exercise when I was training for the half. You know, I was gone through four days a week running or exercising and trying to get my whole family on board with it, which they've been awesome. My husband's veer been very supportive of it. But that was the main thing that I struggled with and then there are days. Sometimes I'm like, I could just go back. But no, I you know, I have to tell myself, look how far you've come. And you've done a lot in a short period of time, and you've made great progress. So what's been the most enjoyable part of the process seen? Oh shopping and see the difference shopping has been buying new clothes. I mean being down in the size. I am from what I was. That's been the best and seen the transfer. Like I actually enjoy going out and getting. You know, because I have to dress up everyday for work. So I've had to buy a whole new order for you know, work and personal. But now half my wardrobe is workout clothes at this. But race t shirts. Generously shirts that's been the most enjoyable though. Yeah. It's always fun. So when you do get discouraged the biggest thing for us just to look back and say, look, how far you come and to keep pushing because of that. Yeah. And there are times when I'll have a bad workout and be like, but no it wasn't because I have to look back and think I couldn't do that. When I first started. And now I'm doing that plus more. So it's just you know, I have days, and then I'll return on you'll be like, okay? But Heather, look what you've done, and I have to tell myself that now that you've kind of met your weight loss goal and you've done these races. Do you have another goal or you setting other goals in the future? Now, I just wanna get faster my races maintaining is going to be a struggle. That's one thing I'm going to struggle with. But I think just trying to better myself in these races and getting beating the previous times that I've have now I've got goals for those. And actually, you know, I'm running five ks ten cases sheer. So my goal is to just be the every time, you know, from previous one that Iran. So what's your favorite food when you is? Is it vegetables? Would you say it's shuttles? Yeah. It's my favorite snack. It's amazing. That's great. I mean, especially combat. Yeah. No, two two and a half years ago. If you said that to yourself. Yeah. I would have random bag potato chips or just something completely unhealthy. But now, I'm like oh care. You know, any kind of Estelle that you can. Out what I would not. That's what I would prefer. I don't even miss any of that. And what's your favorite exercises at running? It's probably running. Yeah. But I really enjoy the weight training too. But the running this is I feel like that is the best for me. I think that was the one thing that helped get a lot of my weight off all the cardio, and it wasn't that you were super fast, or I mean, you started out walking most of it and running for a little bit like thirty seconds time. And then my at that point. I was like, okay, I wanna run a mile. So I would I ran a whole mile and that was like huge, and then I would run a mile walk for a little bit. And then I run two miles. And so it would just baby step it up until my longest run. I ever did. Right before the half without walking was like nine miles and. I just couldn't believe like how you go from. Running walking. And then I mean, Iran most of the half in October last year. I only walked maybe thirty seconds of the whole, you know, minute of the whole race. So that's important. Now that wanna make it clear that it's not easy, right? It's still not easy. No. It's a lot of work. But it is something that you felt you ready for you. You made that switch in your head and your mind to live to choose to live this healthy lifestyle. Right. And you continue to make that choice writing. I think so often people see. Okay. Well, you've lost the weight. So it's easy. Right. But it still a daily thing. Oh, yeah. Maintaining I feel like is going to be harder than actually losing the weight. And I still struggle won't. You know, when I run I still have as on like, oh, my gosh is this ever over. But yeah, maintains going to be the hardest thing now, but. Yeah. I just tried you wait for how long probably six six to eight weeks. Yeah. So great start in for that make. Yes. Yeah. And you know, I go up, you know, oh few pounds and I'll go back down. But that's just I think yet, but always be range. Yeah. Some possible stay with one especially as a female you have yet. So last question is, you know, if there's people out there that's sitting too. And they're at the beginning of joining or not even really starting at during yet. What advice would you have for those that are either wanting to start it or starting at in or feeling discouraged? What advice you have for them for the things that you've gone through? Start with small changes just start small and say, you can do it. If it's cutting something out like in your diet. Then do that just make small changes in take it slow. And don't ever say, you can't do it because you can again, no matter your age, your weight, nothing. It won't stop. You just make a goal. And if it's it doesn't have to be anything crazy long-term just if it's a short term goal in. That's the make that. But do whatever you feel like you need to do until yourself that you can do it. Because I told myself I was going to run a half, and I was going to run a half. And I told people that I was going to do it. And that help me accountable. You know, my kids knew I was going to do it. My husband, and I wasn't going to let them down. I was going to do it. And you've motivated your mom, and your grandmother, and they're both trying to change their lifestyle exercising with eating and as well as a lot of your friends have been inspired by journey. Right. I even had my husband ran a half with me. Yeah. Unless. Let's make this clear. He is not air owner not. But he did he did it to be supportive with me. I didn't have to run it by myself. And now he's running again with me this year. So that's amazing. So not only have you changed your life. But you've changed others lives. Just by deciding to make yourself little healthier, you're helping others. That's mazing. I had to do this for my kids to I was just I was just tired of being miserable time. So those good, congratulations. Thank you everything. Thank you for sitting down with me. I hope you enjoyed the interview with Heather and took a lot away from what she said there was some huge key points that she mentioned that can apply to anyone no matter where they are on their journey. She was in your shoes where you may be right now, she's tired. She was uncomfortable with herself and she had tried and failed before, but she had decided to keep going keep trying and took that first step and started making those small changes. Remember each change has to be something you can maintain to be sustainable to be forever in you have to still be in your everyday life. As a mom as a wife as a daughter as a sister, whatever it may be in your job if you make too big of changes, it's not going to stick. So make sure you make those changes that work for you and your life where you are right now. Now, no matter how small that step is because remember small steps will lead to big changes. Oh, man.