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Steve Sybesma (Co-founder of Deer Creek Music Center and concert promoter legend)

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16:19 min | 10 months ago

Steve Sybesma (Co-founder of Deer Creek Music Center and concert promoter legend)

"Welcome back to the tapes archive podcast where we release interviews. That have never been heard before this episode. We have a new conversation. Our guest is steve. A longtime concert promoter and one of the partners in the creation of deer creek music center outside in annapolis says mahatma call with mark to tell him about his newly created indiana concert archive website. Indiana rock history dot com about his concert promotion journey in the interview. Steve talks about how the rolling stones played a pivotal role and taking out his competitors. And why the stone steered clear of indiana for years. How much you to. An ac dc got paid the first time they played a show in indiana in the fascinating history of deer creek music center as always we have music critic mark allen at the helm conducting the interview. One last thing before we get to the interview the tapes archive. Podcast is a proud member of cyrus media a global community connecting passionate fans with podcast and experiences about artists topics. You love thanks for tuning in and now. It's time to open the vault. Thanks for taking the time. I appreciate it. Why don't we start out by talking about the website. Where did the idea come from. And how long did it take you to put together. I bought a good website or the history would be great way to to record things a little bit of a labor of at this point. Now there's over thirty five hundred shows and it's still not complete. I marvel at that list in just who played here. And when and where it's it's an amazing resource about resource and something that record it now. It's never going to happen. you started. He said and seventy two was that isaac hayes do. I remember that correctly that that was your first show. That was lucas's they lucas joe. Haldeman broadened sunshine promotions. Just before. I started promoting join dave and chill in summer seventy four. I kept all my calendar of not my calendars from nineteen seventy two arm and sunshine. We kept records because we were always competing with other promoters. We always need to reference where we did van halen and maybe not pushing evansville wing on these dates. You know it's kind of our day you know. Why would you give it to them. That you know we were the history where the promoter record with orders and we check. The record of the artist of boo was the opening act with the attendance was with the grocery seats. Were and how much we pay the artist so all that information is also in there which is something otherwise would never be known interesting are rolling stone show paid fifty thousand dollars in nineteen seventy five. It's interesting that we paid. Acdc two hundred fifty dollars for their show. Circle theatre foreigner the headliner and interesting. We've pay you to two thousand dollars. Nineteen eighty-four the open for the j. band what was the biggest payout you ever had biggest payout two. Well i get. I on niagara wrote a check to artists for over a million dollars. Nine thousand nine hundred nine rolling stones and we we had the two shows at the hoosier gap back then was probably one of the biggest in guarantees got bigger as the years went along and so did concert ticket prices. I mean you've got a lot of great pictures on the site of ads with for tickets for concerts. That were five dollars. I can remember when the eagles played a deer creek and charge one hundred dollars and everybody was just shocked at the idea of one hundred dollars and now of course it's routine to be over one hundred dollars for a ticket wash. They were shocked but they paid seventy four. You started with sunshine are you. Dave got together and made sunshine. What joe joe. Haldeman was nineteen seventy-one to eighty one or eighty two. So there were three of us and he left what happened to build sunshine from from seventy four to eighty nine. We were aggressive. Gay joe nye true where we were aggressive each of having relationship with different agents. We were not just in indianapolis even when we started early. We were chosen indiana ohio kentucky and there's always a lot of competition but in the early years the biggest competition there was belkin productions coming in from cleveland. There was another company even call. I love the name of this company. He always said brought to you by since company was called a friend and i love. That guy name was roger. Abramson and out of detroit was Bob harris which was bamboo productions. So those three promoters were coming in indianapolis during the big show and we got started so we had to fight against them. A late seventy four. We did three bachman. Turner overdrive shows those three shows sold out and we made about twenty thousand dollars a show. That was a lot of money in nineteen seventy four but we were building not just indianapolis that the other markets were doing more and more shows and that was a big boost help because sunshine never had an investor. We started from ground zero and none of any money but we each of us borrowed from the bank. Like i borrowed when i came in and it was my obligation to borrow from the bank. Personally seventy five hundred dollars and put in the company so each of did that and make money with lose money. We'd make money. We grew kind of little by little bit pretty fast. And in nineteen seventy five. We book the rolling stones. Now there was a an agent. New york called front barcelona preview talent print. Barcelona put together kind of a network promoters of young promoters in america so once we did the stones and seventy five competition for us was not as tough that really gave our company a boost to the so once. You prove that you could do a big show. You were home for our clear not not home free exactly but it sir made things easier. We had done other shows before the stones you know. There's nobody gigging rolling stones. Nineteen seventy five. We built this show at indiana university and fifty dollars plus a percentage and instantly of course and then we'd be made another forty thousand and staying time period of nineteen seventy-five away with the book. Only this time we had to pay a hundred grand. We said no problem because we know is an automated so we didn't really have the money in those days. You were working with frank barcelona and they believed in you and they need to sell your show because we didn't have to come up with the knowledge and advanced because it's so loud as fast as they could sell to you know box salt four hours. I think show. That does a true that they were angry that the that the rca dome had not sold out and promised they would not come back true. They They were really upset. It shows did not do well and shown did about twenty five thousand people. I don't have that was no. That's my recollection as well. And and what i do remember. Is you put it on sale. Pretty late in the. I mean it was a summer show and there were so many shows that summer that i think people were just tapped out so getting back to the website. You've made it so that it's it's not just a place to go and read but it's an interactive site. Can you talk a little bit about your thinking on that. And what you're hoping to get because Tell stories so they can say. I went to a david boies through my met. My wife there are still you know or they can talk about the meat again hale and went backstage and they can cover stories because each listings has the blonde on there where you can could cut your story. And when we go into the more info section of each thing gone trying to collect. The backstage passes the tickets the posters and photographs. Let's talk a bit about deer creek. Indianapolis is pretty conservative was pretty conservative city and i always had the impression i mean. Deer creek was a bit of a fight right to to get it built. The grateful dead coming was a bit of a fight to get them permission to have them here. Talk about how you navigate the political and personal situation state to get things done here any deer creek done. It took us three years. Who on the side became full. History was nineteen seventy eight gave. Joe is said. These ample theaters are doing pretty well. On the said he tried pine knob the huge business and so dana detroit in nineteen seventy eight. Look at on on. We were disappointed because we saw much would cost to build an amphitheater. A major undertaking and seventy eight. There's no way we could come up with seven or eight or ten million dollars to build a dam so we came back and we made a deal with the sports center and we started doing summer. Concert series at the art center. Did back food. Ten years. I think or gordon der happened and we started looking for. They'll and look the westfield. Indiana was our first location and we rezoning meetings and published means with the local people and in trying to build a waste treatment plant in the middle of shopping centers. Nobody wanted to near them. That we looked at westfield person shot down there and we went north west indianapolis where kicked out of there pretty quickly. And then we went to downtown's we thought we could get it down downtown of what. Stay calm and got shot down there. And then when we found noblesville site found two hundred eight years there and it wasn't zoned was like we had to get new zoning for what we wanted to do was no zoning there was just farmland and i always remember learned a good lesson then we went to buy two hundred acres and the guy and christopher eighteen hundred dollars an acre and made a big mistake. We offered in what he would ask offered him. Fourteen hundred tonight. The we probably would have brought up sixteen hundred nathan the we often by breaking a nigger. Now here i think what five thousand dollars causes a million dollars anyway. Was a lesson learned. But a we had a big fight and noblesville to took Maybe nine months or year. I can't remember six months. Had all those records but it was a big bite and had a lot of commission meetings and we finally got it passed. Know all the neighbors at deer creek. They thought we were gonna drive their property values down. You know whether you wanna live out there which is absolutely the opposite of what happened. Is the property values. gene. Rubik everything up around. There is a great banker noblesville area surrounding the amphitheater. And then you find you did get the white river. State park project done eventually. Date got that down after the two thousand four. Yeah i quit in two thousand for any particular reason you know. I guess i would been doing it for what almost thirty years. And we're working harder and harder more like a more independent than the corporate thing wasn't exactly what i like but maybe it was a mistake. What get did in calabar. We sold the company state three years after we hold so we had a lot of money. And and i wanted to go out. See the world. Enjoy travel around the world juniors after i retired when you did sell out it was mostly because everybody was selling out right. I mean didn't s setbacks that came along and bought everything up in copper and was consolidation. It was going to happen if we stayed independent. Might something deal the guy. That bought was guiding bob silverman and i had known him for many years and then he bought w bq radio right before us. And i called him up. And i said hey bob you want to. When you come into town with gordon dinner or something. He said probably not been coming down but he said just just built or slater which is of course. Courage the meteoric promoter he said. Would you be interested in selling your business and ninety the right amount of money. Anything for sale and we have tried to go public before the digital will growing and expanding built the amphitheater in columbus ohio. We refurbishment fear in louisville and doing the euro theater at the same time so we tried to go public and that trail than that was pre approval year for us because to do and didn't work shown to other things. One is clearly your high school guidance. Counselor did not tell you that you should go into concert promotions. How did you know to do this. Well i know. And i was twenty twenty one. I was a heavy equipment operator. Homework construction running bulldozer on interstate highways. And i've lived in a house with three dives and nineteen seventy one and one of them was a record. One of the dj. They'll be few radio and the other guy. Perry was an agent noble and one day area. And i were sitting around. What do a rock concert. that's how i got into. It sounded great and starting doing then. The last thing i wanna ask is is just. Let's let's go back to the to the website. What are you hoping will come out of this show. I think i'd just like to see become a good history. That's there were people can contribute to it and make it a more complete. And then so there's a reference to just didn't want the history of your austin almost. I just thought it was better shared. That was just in my books and my boxes and stuff that might go on forever. I am writing a book. I think i would pretty interesting to write working on that right now. When do you hope to have that out. I think it's gonna take me a while and maybe nine months to year. we'll great. Well thank so much this has this has been fun. I learned a lot and there's more to learn so it'll be fun to watch the website develop them and see what what comes of it. And what people's memories are. Martha appreciate reach out to me. Which just keep in touch. 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#47 Sammy Hagar (Van Halen) 1991 Interview

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38:02 min | 8 months ago

#47 Sammy Hagar (Van Halen) 1991 Interview

"Welcome back to the tapes archive podcast where we release interviews. That have never been heard before in this episode. We have the red rocker himself. Sammy hagar at the time of the interview. In nineteen ninety-one hager was forty four years old and was promoting van. Halen's upcoming concert at deer creek music center in the interview. Hagar talks about his experience with. Ufo's the secret to van halen. His father's death and his advice for axl rose as always. We have music critic mark allen at the home conducting the interview. One last thing before we get to the interview the tapes archive. Podcast is a proud member of cyrus media a global community connecting passionate fans with podcast experiences about artists and topics in tune. In and now it's time to open the volt pretzels. I'll stop now. Well continuing pretzels. That's okay. You're probably get half the stuff i say wrong. To begin with i will sambi. We got it all on tape and we don't we don't mess around with these quotes sitter and that kind of crap. Here's what i wanna know. I want to know. When are you going to dive off. The stage for looking for a camera criticized the security force and storm off in a tizzy. Probably when my first album sales four or five million records. Don't know you know. I think lujan had arrived rain if he that ugly. You wouldn't want to take a picture of you know everybody's got their own trip. The music should be all you really worry about. It just seems like you guys are certainly on the same level of success if not greater than those guys and they don't seem to have any idea how to enjoy it and you guys always seem to be enjoying yourself toll thing it's like you got. Enjoy yourself. I what you're doing and then just everything around just kind of falls into by spot after miserable miserable in any situation. I don't care how much money you have. You miserable miserable. So i don't know i could rag on him all day because it does kind of make a six fans or the ones end up getting burned. They're still gonna make their money shows over is done and they walk away and the fans are the ones that could burn because then somebody else comes to town and that market the security is going to be all pissed off. They're going to be up tied and the fans are gonna suffer. They're gonna they're gonna make them hold them back more. It's not it's not gonna be as much fun for the next two or three months for other bands that come through because guns went out there and fucked up. And that's only part the pisses me off other than that. I don't give a shit with those guys. Anybody asked there was all this talk for a while. That rock was dead. The charts were dominated by all these dance divas and rap axe and i guess that really occurred most heavily. Well you're probably putting the finishing touches on the new album and we hearing all that talk intimidating blowing. All that other stuff off the charts. I mean i was looking so forward to. It's like i'm just we were there were times. Where should back you know hearing what we were doing knowing that heart that it was great. Then that's not an eagle rock honest. We real proud of this show now. We were just gonna sit there and watch. Mtv seventy going to. I can't wait to plastic fuckers out with this. I mean it really was. It was almost like we were out loading. Are our guns amunition ready that we could just hit him. But you know our fans have always been so true. it's like we don't have to really singles. We'll have to do anything. And not because we're so god damn great. It's because our fans are so great that we know they're going to be there so they trust us completely. We don't have to have a hit. Single are cop out and makes them dance busy. The crosses over into club or something to in order for to hook people into buying our records or obviously than rush into making record and you didn't see certainly rush to make the fans that wouldn't for our leisure and that's why our fans are. They're i guess because they know they can trust this. So we're going to go in and we're gonna do a great show we're gonna come out of space somma ticket. They're going to get their money's worth more if we make a record. They're going to get this. Money's worth a warning. It's not gonna be just two or three hit songs on an interesting bunch of bullshit so it's really our fans that have put in this position and we just knew they'd be there when we release this record. It was like fuck. Yeah they're going to be that we've never rip them off you know and we go into so they're going to be there until all these these Bullshit it's been out there a lot of it. We were just really not the army was going to come to the rescue. The infantry was going to put the album debuted at number one which was stuff. Also plan on your mind when you're writing the songs but no. We don't plan anything with that that that's the secret van. Halen as we just go in and do but what we do is taken very seriously not to the point where we overwork but seriously to the point to where we know that if that good out and we just go in there are south. It's like really self indulgent in a way but with a little bit of a higher mccarthy explain a little bit of a higher consciousness. So of hey. This isn't good enough. And just not gonna go take a big pitch and say here you go drink that really make sure it's a good get these quotes in the paper going to be so. That's what i meant. I think you're right anyway. I might've obedient fucking goldfish. I saw some. Maybe that was what man on a mission might be about that. You're you know you felt on a mission to all these other bands. No you know. There's actually believe it or not. Now get stuff lyrically. There is a concept of this album even the cheesy songs who which people can say. Oh that just about put the owner. You can't put that like upset like where you know people just a sexual thing. There is tied into a concept and someone agrees with her not or whatever but the dream is over is basically the concept about. It's not a negative. It's like the dream is over but you know dream another dream. There's just stop believing in this old time crap and this changes have to be made and so forth and judgment day is basically what i'm talking about it. Dennis a my attitude. I think that's the attitude of a lot of people in the world today. Everyone's putting it opera when just going for what they do. What's in it for me and all that consciousness is just gotta change and it's time to wake up so a song like man on a mission is about once you know what you want and i'm talking sexually like pound cake it's like i'm more attracted to a down home home grown woman than i am to some designer stuff and it's to me it's more beautiful to see things kind of in the notch. I wanna know what. I don't like pound cake is what i'm saying is like a simple. You know what you got and so. That's the parallel there that man on emissions basically once you see it the pound cake and you know once you know what you want in your man on a mission did you got mission. You can go get it. Nothing can distract you. If you don't know what you want then you're not. I'm on a mission. You're lost dog you're out there looking at. Maybe i'll want that. Maybe i'll maybe. I should try this. Maybe i should try that. And that's the way. I see people on the planet. That's why i see everything. Priorities are all screwed up and so basically. That's what the album is about. Even spank lines. It's about that. Censorship people trying to keep a record off the market says fuck in it putting stick around but yet you can sit home with your family and be watching a family. Tv show espn sports. Whatever and bang call up this number and this lady will tell you what you want to know what you want right over the phone and to me that blows my mind and so that's really wake up. People think he wanted. I want to run around st grabby by the neck and shake him. Say wake up you serve okay. But what the dream that. You're talking about the dream. that's for. Which dream are we talking about here. Talk about kind of the american dream. All the promises they've all been raped and you can't trust a lot of people and i'm not. I'm not answering mary. i'm very. This is a very pro american statement. I'm saying the jive bullshit that we've been fed that hey you can go out you just go to school get a good education and if you do everything this way and that way you can have this bullshit. People got around round to completely. Now you know the stock market thing the This crap told that success in order to be a good american yet to be successful. You have to own your house and you have to have a couple of cars in a garage and and dress. Nice and be yuppie family and then then you're okay bullshit. Toes people are just as bad as the crack dealers in the street. Sometimes because they're the reason the real estate prices go up and so forth and the developers and all these guys that come. I live at the beach here right. It's a wonderful life and great aso's trying to build a house on my beach. Right did in front of my house on the beach where people come and lay not one house. Seventeen houses across the speech and the point is okay. I live in a wonderful neighborhood. All rich people live here and it's wonderful life and this guy starving streets fine but those people are starving in the streets are allowed to walk down and lamb i beach and enjoy but this is trying to put up houses there and makes seventeen million dollar profit and no one can land a beach in. My kid has to sit here and look at the house. It's a tough life great bullshit. It's bad for the environment to the guy's gonna be flushing sewage into the ocean. And there's no beat sir then then to me you know. That's wake up dream overmanned. People have abused they rape it and the rape in the country and so okay. Okay so you're telling people that will e forty. What are you telling them to do. What do you suggest they do. Just kind of wake up to the environment and don't get sucked in by the whole thing and take out your trash recycling trash or whatever i haven't i haven't come up with all the answers. I'm just kind of painting the picture because just want people to ask the questions. Yeah exactly because i'm not. I don't believe rock. Has an artist painter poet. I don't believe that you should sit there and say this is the way to go do this and do that. There's way too much responsibility to that. I wouldn't want to be in that position. Because i'm not sure right all the time but the what you can do. It's what the artist's job is. I think is to paint the picture. Just say here's the way i see it. Is there any truth to this. Can relate. You know can help me. Can you tell me where what i'm seeing. It's wrong and you know what i'm saying. It's like i think we're just tell the world where there's be radio through the radio to mtv what you see because maybe some of these people are just doing it and they don't see it so you know we're fortunate enough to be able to have time to step back a lot of times. Live kind of centric weird life and sometimes you glimpses of things. Maybe can't see if you're not there and think that's his job and that's all we're responsible for not changing world but kind of painting it as we see and therefore goes that are intelligent enough. Have the insight and the answers to make the changes. Maybe they'll see it through what we see and therefore make the change because we can go out there and make changes the stupid it'd be like revolutions. I'm not looking for no revolution. I just want to wake people up a little bit higher consciousness about this stuff and that's about as far as it is other than that. I just wanna have some fun. Have people have fun to the music. That's why there's all these double means to pound cake. And that's why i intentionally try to put a little humor in it as well. Otherwise there's no funding becomes this real serious. Then i'm joan by has always. I don't wanna see that either. That's depressing. you don't want to depress the people you want to wake them. Up was miles. They shit man. I'm happy now. Anyway because there is an asshole trying to build a house on my beach to tell me where you live or roughly. You know on the la coach right on the beach where the waves roll up to the on big still so this guy's got to get a boat half the time to get out of his pad. I mean this guy's they'll build a house anywhere to make a buck blows my mind. I'm thinking well a lotta. I'll let you do it on my front lawn. Please take the beach away from me and my kids and the people from the valley that drive over here. Thank god is a beach down there something. They'll they'll just pretty. It's like the oil rigs gotta be there the middle of the ocean and come on. You know there's plenty of oil drilling somewhere else. The beach quell. Some guy owns it really. I didn't know anybody could own the beach. Kinda i guess in california. Well here's the deal. Executives used to be a road there and it got washed out about five times. So they've gone so now it's the speech and the biggest someone owned it. It's hard to explain. That's why the government. I mean dip coast commissioner when he's trying to fight him he's trying to fight the coastal commission. You can't put houses here for christ sake. It's dangerous and there's a beach here. People should be able to live on his speech. but i mean users speech. It's a private beach. But it's open to the public. But i mean it's privately for some reason to maastricht astle is just he's fighting it and fighting and fighting he spent millions of dollars trying to develop it because it's worth so much money. I mean these have house right at the beach. Everyone say wonderful but they don't realize how stupid it with base. The guy's gonna end up being super. That's why i'm saying it's judgment day. He knows he's wrong and he knows he's doing everything that for not only the environment but for the people that are going to buy the house is going to sell the house for three or four million bucks. They'll be ripped off to the bone because their house will be in the ocean about every four years so because there's a big you know when they have high tide comes right up to my gate. Sorry you know. It's like anything in front of my gate. It's kinda get washed away. That sounds dangerous by house. Like everyone's putting it off to judge. Take the whole thing. Everyone can chances. It's a piss poor way to do things but because everyone's desperate are also greedy. The desperate the crack is a desperate. You know the kids in the street. That are robin stores. There not well. I know i shouldn't be doing this. But hey i got survive and i gotta take i take my chances so you go and your blow somebody when you get caught and go. Hey i got caught. But it's all i had and these guys are going. Hey i'm greedy man. I need another five million bucks. Rinse too 'cause. My house had spent twelve million dollars in my house and i couldn't afford it and i got paid for this paper that so i got to build a house. I need seven million bucks quick. I mean it's it's the consciousness you know. Stop i'm gonna go on stage and do a a show so much fun. My only relief comic relief stage. Take it out and act like everything's wonderful. Are your neighbors fighting this as well. Oh yeah him up and on the coastal commission is finding these guys. there is a real big time developer. He's got a lot of political clout. Actually it looks like he might be going to get it done. I mean i don't know maybe. She put on a concert right next to his house or something like that. If there's any houses out front we'll be put on congress on beach constantly trying to work it out of play for free for the construction workers man and and they're telling. Hey bring your family down shit. We'll play for you guys. You know nothing will get done an ask. Van halen related things scout. When did you know was there. Was there a specific instance that you knew that the fans accepted you as the front man van. Halen i show really. Yeah so for the first time there was never any field like You know. I miss david lee roth or anything. I don't know if they did or not. But they didn't show it and they showed nothing but respect and wants me. I mean we walked downstairs shreveport louisiana and there's a town i had never had my because otherwise biz maybe five pound in america. I never have a solo artist because lack of business are black. Record chelsea said we don't want to chance it right so we started the fifty one fifty four and three point and i said this is wonderful. You know i was really nervous. If sold out or style whatever we walked on stage and there were probably fifty banners and the audience that said van hagar the red rocker van. Halen of you. Are you know dave sucks. There was just. It was so unbelievable and we walk out on stage. And they fucking busted the barricade down. And i said well shit. Let's go you know and i. I'm a pretty confident human being anyway. I'm not like a real secure. Kinda guy who. I walked out stage a little shy. It was it was wonderful diamond. Have one single bad incident and then the next thing that kind of tell me what was happening when fifty one fifty two third we went to number one then never had a number one and number two record. Nineteen eighty-four was very big record for them coming off a record that big and so forth and that was it. You know the only people that ever complained about it. We're just some critics beyond with you. Every now and then about thirty forty percent of them would come to the show and say you know they bring a know samoyeds like this for days just as they were trying to compare and I don't think the fans are really trying to comparison. I think they thought it was just different. It was do the fans had like dave. They split. I don't believe they were there. I had my own fans. I was selling. I call myself and van halen sonar coliseums you those together. I just thought we just. As far as i'm concerned we just had twice for. People are at least amount of people that left that. We're disappointed with me into bands. I think my fans feel the bigger hole and they left. And i'm sure some of my fans which is a point. I got fan letters that disappointed from joining the band too. You know and now. I mean obviously seeing what's happened with dave. I think it's obvious he needs you. Need him so we don't need you know you don't need but the point is is that i think it's just it's kind of cut and dried now i i think The truth has just just service. I mean we've had three number one in a row. And i think we've just an old issue now. I don't think it's there anymore. Ten more years from now. Maybe they should do a reunion. I don't know but Right now i think of by splitting dave came back. My my gut feeling is it would be. It would hurt the bench. First of all the band would never do it. If i left this fan day would not be. The guy came back. There's not a happy mutual thing going on there so and second of all these guys would have to. They would have to cut my neck and throw me out of the band right. So it's not that is an issue. Okay then we leave it alone. It's really really Going good within the ban. We kind of have more than a band going with us. We're actually from the day as i walked in this situation and played with these guys. We all just kind of smiled and warmed up. It was like hey. This is fucking great. We're the same kind of people. Get up we talk about music Old al an older children and it's always the same song that we all love and it just. It's unbelievable any list next door to me. It's his beach as well. It's the same thing we were just. We're friends you don't live next door to somebody you hate. It's real real special situation and outside people don't even know 'cause here the music and if you really sensitive maybe you can hear that. There is a marriage there if some people just taking his odds great band. Everything's good but it goes so far beyond that he can't even imagine how closely are people. There's a reference book. Use the encyclopedia of pop rock and soul and has a long and interesting entry on you and it starts out by saying there are more than a few contradictions. Between the public and private faces of sammy hagar onstage thrashing out red hot licks while he screams out riot rock lyrics and makes no hold. Colts bart comments between numbers. He seems the personification of the crews and booze and blue collar town he grew up in. Offstage is typically relaxed and reflective enjoying detailed discussions of favorite topics such as astronomy and the reality or non reality of. Ufo's said the that you. Yeah i think so. Damn this asshole that neil kelly Really someone wrote there Well i if i had you know i pretty much the that's about as accurate as think of myself. I'm not a real you know. Kind of person sits around. Thanks a lot about myself when he was going. If you wouldn't send my name what is it. That sounds like me pretty good. Yeah all right so Are there or not. Oh yes yeah yes. I live book. I'm reading house called watchers. And it's kinda the latest details or some people betty anderson's cases. It's it's scary. I wrote a song to someone out. There it's scary to think that we're the only people. Can this whole big university if you know anything about strategy space time. How big everything has how minute this planet is and how unsophisticated our son and so forth and our little solar system is to think that we are the only one that scares the shit out of me. You know what i mean. that means. There's no god or nothing. So i i'd rather believe in god and Hope that hope that we're not just out here on our own because that's the case. Then fuck it. I might have a real good time. There's no dues to pay. if there's no judgment day you know joined the family. Of course the You know the the line that everybody always says. Well you know how come. Ufo's always land and like you know a farmer with a thirty two iq's backyard. I they never land the middle of manhattan. They've been there's a classic case. John lenovo people wanted the people that saw it in nineteen sixty seven or something like that. seven ufo's that were spotted right downtown new york in the air they all acrobatics and shit than just dispiriting. There's like fifty people in one group on one street corner where all questioned about it or something and it's documented project blue book you can. You can look it up behind book. And there's there's been there's been many cases and a lot of cities but it for one thing he gonna city where people are crazed busy and shit. A lot of things happen. You don't see and this guy is a pretty funky too but Out of farm where there's a lot it's a lot less You know these guys don't want to catch some cat. Come out and blow their brains out and should have the police come chasing them or whatever these guys they probably just. There's three different kinds. i think. I mean i don't have all the answers but i believe there's three one is a manifestation of your brain. You'll look you'll see something only because your brain just projects almost like a holiday rambler. It's almost like you're you're the project offs and it's usually taking things in your eyes can also there's there's imagine your carry ones okay but there are real some people. Then there are robots that some people like us into police Shuttle with computers and so forth. And some people i think they actually have a robot that have functions to to kind of characters on you know. That's a little bit far fetched but scientific machinery that can buy computers that come down and make all these tests you know they earth samples just like we go to the moon and get a scooper may come down here and they cut. Somebody's got them tick off one look at it take it up and see what saw and then there are real creatures like us but other type creatures. I dunno could be aunts. They could be anything depending on the environment. They come from other dimensions Other not our planet in our solar system of the world and they come down here and they are real curious little creatures and they are much more sophisticated in order to be able to come here as visit people say experiment. They grabbed guys like me and they just fucking just with know instant little. Thank boom your memory. Goes you lose time and until you hypnotize. Don't even know what happened. It might have happened to you. It's happened to me before it has. Oh yes it has happened. I don't know exactly but it happened when it happened. Yeah nineteen sixty seven ninety six okay and it was like a computer situation. I was kind of plug into and it was like Either feeding me information you know if you took a computer and you transfer from one to another so tell me we're we're are you in what i'm in my house on tanna california. Okay and i'm asleep. Took over night and all of a sudden felt like i almost feel like there. Was this chord in in me in my head and a went up on this mountain top behind where it was an like an electrical connection. I'm calling it a court. Nothing makes sense dream state. It's like you know what i mean. It's like trying to explain what it was like. A cord was coming out of me. I was plugged into okay and was connected to these three creatures which. I can't explain what they look like. But when i sort of think it you can just sort of see him almost like just a glowing being like in e. t. things a fairly to the landing cutting the movie hynick within Closing county almost creatures are kinda low like that okay and they said in their own way. There's no speaking. They were far away their mile away. They're going he's waking up and they yelled out. A number numeral system like a a code. That was my code. None of the numbers are in from our american system. I can't even tell you what they were but they were numbers and a sudden it just went and sat and i opened my eyes. My room was completely white. It was just light as if the price like the world is in. There could move my arms or anything. Just my eyes were open and then back is close. I went back to sleep. Woke up the next day. Remember the whole thing and it was not dream. You know what i mean. Did you report it. Hell no no. You wiped just slept through this night. Yeah totally so. But i've read ever. Since then i have had this intense curiosity about astronomy. And everything. I mean. I i would go into a bookstore and i pick up a book and i would open up a chapter about your bank. Somebody had the same type experience. Exactly i mean like this. This is the me talk so just things like that. It did set me on a on a mission and for a long time. And now i'm kinda over it because it just i take it for granted. It didn't scare me. I'm not scared. I sit up nights. I go out and stay up all night wishing that i could see one that it would happen. That they'd come and get me into and explain everything to. I'm like out there making myself available to them and then another time in the middle of the night one. The treaty was outside my window. And i was meditating and i was saying i was meditating trying to make contact in my head. I mean i do this. People think you for being crazy. But i'm crazy and i go wait a minute. I am crazy. But i looked and then all of a sudden it was there on my window and i was afraid to look first time. I got scared. I wouldn't rollover and look. I could see the same thing it was like my room was kinda growing a tinge you know so the first thing that happened was in nineteen sixty seven. Yeah you're so you're like nineteen imported three hours. Probably twenty just got married just got married. Okay wow okay very same person. That's amazing great. Even not totally crazy. Yeah that's that's pretty incredible given your line of work to been married for twenty four years or something like that. That's that's credible things that you go. I wanted to ask you about one. Other thing in this Entry in the sense kapadia and it the way it described your life. You've faced some Face childhood that know not. A lot of people seem to envy. And i'm wondering if if that makes you more conservative like you like. Are you the kind of person who thinks that people should pick themselves by their boot straps or does it make you more sympathetic to people. It's really great. Because i'm so adamant that each man take care of himself but everyone needs compassion or reason or something to get them to do it. I think the whole key to Taken a person is from down and out and getting them out of that is hope to give them hope somehow whether the depends on what they need if it's a prisoners down and out because they've been mistreated by mankind because they've been fucked over by their loved ones that you've got to show them rub and prove that it's it's worth it if it's a person that's been just down and that because it's a racist thing and so forth you have to you have to give hope that there's going to be a change. The you know the telephone without that. There's nothing and that's where the belief in god comes in and i'm not religious at all i'm not a christian. You know these things but you have to believe in something and that's the importance of it rather not. It's even true. I'd rather think that maybe even if it wasn't true that i may become like the pope and kuno he may know something we don't know but maybe he just saying look mankind needs us and then you give them all that and then they'll grab themselves and lift themselves up by their bootstraps and go out and start doing it but without some kind of hopes kind of compassion for another man They won't have it. And i'm still sympathetic. The people that are down 'cause habit father died in a park as alcoholic at fifty six years old and burma derek industry with my father and he never got to see what donald never got to see me as a man and i'm real sympathetic to anybody. That's down. I can't take it and it's like i got to stop the hartford but at the same time you can't just give to people like a guy's a drug addict. He's he's hurting. He needs to fix so giving money and let him go get again. No jim help you. Give them insight to give them inspiration and you give him some love or something but you don't just hand people money and you don't just take care of people they'll want you to take care of 'em forever grabbed her own bootstraps. Yeah i wonder if you know given like what everybody's talking about with clarence. Thomas apparently grew up very poor child and picked himself up by his bootstraps. And you know became now a supreme court nominee but he doesn't seem to have a lot of sympathy for others who face the same sort of Of life or maybe he had to do to too much the hard way he maybe he never got a break. He figures he even though where is maybe. He's a little bitter about maybe feel triggers had to break his ass. So you gotta break your ass. I don't have had a real real soft. Software considered the hard edged started. I've been an artist my whole life. And i've been so so gifted you might say that i'm able to do all this stuff i just am. I'm happy about it. And so you know. Maybe he just went a bit. I've seen guys like that to the old fathers at work their ass off still no their whole life. I finally did today. But he he got tired of two hundred at about forty and start became a drunk and then killed himself. You might say but the guys that did it and stay tuned. Raise kids fucking hiring their kids times. Look what i had to do. You know the old. I walk five miles and there's no routine so you're gonna walk at least four pack. Tell me about the show. What are people gonna see and hard rock and roll show. They've ever got down line with all this fire. That's just this is just a me. South problems probably gonna go out on stage and just let them all out from you know and i don't mean land trips and i never change. I would never preach anything. Unless i just really book me at the moment up there i get rid of my problems out there. So they're gonna see a long long show. We played along. We've got so many records now. You know we're doing it going all the way back to the first van halen record some the stuff we're gone signed some myself staff. We all still do ourselves sections in the show and was just really special. Are you doing read fuck. I don't know i got so many I make my own clothing. Red rock clothing and it's kind of sports leisure quoting. I've been at the Eliah close that. I can do anything i can sleep in. I can go to them. I can go on stage. You know it's like i don't have to ever changed my clothes now for any events to save so much time and so much decision you know you look in your closet going on johnny recite. She you know she yamamoto. What am i gonna wear today. You know i go and go. I'm the red rocker i'm in. I'm solid shows credible. We have we don't we haven't worked out. I show per saved the band the show happens. We don't work it out. You know what i mean. We've got the socks but the lights and everything. There's a lot of new techniques things we have these new spotlight from the back. The states that have been used maybe twice and they've only been on big outdoor shows. The stones used them so powerful. That people are gonna get a good look at it and we're gonna walk around with this scorched hair on the back were heads but It's it's pretty intensively you know. Van halen never skimpy. How long will you be on stage. Do you know between two and three hours. Wow thing you never know. The songs might be twice as fast but rehearsal there over to. It's over two hours and i'm not even talking between. What's i started getting long winded about anything. Anybody shit. I don't know that could add another forty five minutes. Are you taking opening. Act out the dallas. I'll tell that's right. We won't do it ourselves so everyone an evening with eating with bullshit. Nowadays is good as we are still. I think it's not as good if value. I'm always for bank. Give the people as much as you can. There's a time limit. Its which really makes it difficult conference. We are management when saying do an evening with and they'll save us about know hundred thousand bucks a night or whatever because of the overtime and you know after you play too long and then you know all the stay chance get paid a whole nother day. Make a long story short. It does cost a lot of money after a certain hour and i. I don't believe in that. I see too bad. You know he's playing. Everybody wants some. No no damn. I think that should be the national anthem Yeah i i agree with some songs that aren't me and i hate to give anything away and it's just please don't print this touquet but we're playing jump and it's never been me and i never would play jump before because i don't lyrically i didn't like it but we put it in a different key because it sounds too low. You know it's like i get up and everybody gets me down when it is so i can't stand seeing that law so we put it in a different key we've reworked and it's great and But everybody wants didn't make the band rehearse a lot of the tunes and we find out which one's which ones i i feel good singing wins. The band plays best and everybody wants them winter. Whenever i hear that side damn the national anthem except you know all the talking. And they're that bullshit. But i can't. I can't go out during and do somebody else's rapid too. I think some of the stuff. That's difficult enough sometimes. Because they don't believe in maybe what executives but to sit there and do somebody else's rap is a tough one. Last question is music better or worse today than when you started. And i don't mean your music. I mean music general In general. I think it's better my because i think it's gotten there's better musician and as better production and all that stuff. Nothing all music. The only element. That i don't like as well is the fact that there's so much contrived music it's being rehashed so much and so many people though what makes a hit the formula writing what i call the la songwriters. Sit right for the bands. That have hit. I hate it sucks and most dance music. Good it's just contrived taking a beat and just fucking to me stinks most of it. I can't stand it because it just so prefer. It reminds me of disco. Like just as prefabricated shit that just just to to To prefabricated too contrived. But we're older music. When i first started wasn't like that there were the pop bands. But then there. So many deep purple and steph running all these bands black sabbath and montrose. These kind of bands that just were not contrived hands they went on. But there's still a lot of that now and you still got metallica and you still got Anthrax you know in these faith no more. You got a lot of cool bands out there right now. I think music straight necessarily pop. Radio or mtv music is great people to know the the mother fucking band the god well but they already know but for those that don't it is is well. It was fun to talk to you looking forward to seeing you backstage. Okay thanks take care. Thanks for listening to the tapes. Archive jess please remember. You can always find more information about the show. And the individual episodes at our website. The tapes archive dot com until next time. The vault is closed.

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#37 Vince Welnick (Grateful Dead) Interview 1992

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#37 Vince Welnick (Grateful Dead) Interview 1992

"Welcome back to the Tapes Archive podcast where we release interviews that have never been heard before. In this episode, we have the grateful dead and the Tude keyboardist Vince Wells at the time of this interview in Nineteen Ninety two. Well, nick was forty one years old and was promoting the grateful dead's two sold out shows at Deer Creek Music Center in Indiana in the interview wellness talks about what it was like auditioning for the grateful dead, his former band, the tubes, and how being the grateful dead felt like being a part of a big old wonderful family. Do a variety of things. Merchandising for the most part. But he merchandise. I run a clearinghouse for grateful dead concert tapes. I also go to concerts where I sell frisbees. Beach Balls Doug Bandannas. Hardy you've made a practice. How do you not a following the grateful dead from city to city in order to attend their concerts? Yes. I have made it a practice. You travel to Egypt for a grateful dead concert. Like some kind of a criminal hiding, do anything wrong I like the grateful dead. There's more being dead just amused. Heavier that. As always, we have music critic Mark Allen at the helm conducting the interview. If you'd like to support the show, please light, follow and subscribe to us on. facebook youtube twitter, and instagram. There we post other content and infomation not available on the podcast. If you'd like to read the transcripts for any of our episodes. Please head over to our website at the tapes archive dot. COM will jump into the interview after quick word from our sponsors. Hello off. where? ello. Hello. Right, and if you went to about all the cool stuff that we've been up to all the projects and products that you might be interested in knowing about maybe buying, you'll probably be interested in this toll free number, and if you call it right now, we will get back to you as soon as possible. You. And the next thirty seconds of did air is only the beginning. Only, the The beginning. One. Last thing before we get to the interview that tape archive podcast is a proud member of Cyrus media, a global community connecting passionate fans with podcast and experiences about ours and topics in involved. Thanks for tuning in, and now it's time to open the volt. Fence. It's Mark Allen killing either. Talk Marley up. Wait you out. Let me shut this window to all right. I'll hang up. Okay. Boy Do you think the four seasons get many people who play Bob Marley up real? Loud. Maybe on this floor. They ask for it, they put the CD player. Oh that's nice. Yeah Are you big Marley. Fan. Yeah, I like him a lot of turn into introduce. Waiting. Invade with. Any taker so far? I. Had a without seems pretty you know it's. Normally would ever rehearsal or something, but we maybe worked up at soundcheck. Difficult from Yeah I would think Mickey, would be into that pretty much. Feels like a good summary kind of thing to play outdoors. Fit It would sit with a couple of hours. You know got lots of room for bulk goes. It's got a lot of vocal potential for everybody to join in I. Kinda like the way everybody singing lately, we have a new era in your monitors and I think it's improved. Everybody's vocal lot because everybody's able to hear your as you know when you sing especially when you think it's just thing in your own ear and to have your vocal turned up. Enough and your own monitor it's you can hear the. Little whisper of you can sing in key and you're not trying to get over the top of music which you know if if if you have to sing above the volume of the music that limits you to your age quite a bit as sometimes it pulls you off T. Now it's not a problem at all if you concentrate and you could think perfectly at any level especially, really delicately that's great I love it for like full federal to was something that the Ben had been have problems with discovered that were better. What are we trying them out? Bobby and Jerry? They tried him out I. Love Them. The sound right up there in your head and you can actually hear everybody's like when I you know depending on where you're on stage, it was difficult to here, everybody all the time and you could put them in your monitor but then you have to put him in pretty loud and then you've got other priorities. Chuck could you Anyway you were telling me about these, these the ear monitors wonder teats teed semi that you don't use any stage monitors at all north speakers forever that's going to be great. Works good for the PA. Drift me decibel does your. Coverage your death for at least I'm a get into the the scheduled material here. What I wanted to ask you is being dead anything like you imagined it would be Actually, never imagined being in the did be friends with them as kind of a vision I had when I first heard their album I just felt like I was there but actually being in the dead didn't occur to me until all of a sudden you know suddenly died. My wife Lori inquired with Bobby Sir Secretary at the time for us to be the TUBE secretary. As you know, I played to tonight and Me told my wife that they're looking for auditioning people and I wanted audition excuse going on I didn't know if there'd be chemistry there but I wanted to see if maybe they want to be in the band and then soon as I met -Tarian Bob I decided right away really wanted to beat the band and they started checking out the music which they sent me. And getting more more fabulous but thought of it. You Sheet Music No. Let me take out table rock paper. CDs. which was left that I didn't notice CD player. I didn't tell him that, but I learned stuff off the tapes and. Audited Guy I went in there. We played about eight five and then I. Sat around by the phone for about a week. Now I, did. Actually I didn't know if I was going to get it because of other people who are pretty hot. Starting in the names I got kind of pumped out. But People know who will competed against because I. Don't think I know who? The Guy. A key lab it's really a peak. At a guy for me, the I thought might get it 'cause he was playing with the my extra well occurring from the tube. He had his own band in the so name with Tim Garment played with the WHO lots of people get some heavy duty competition. Is Better you know? I had this. Dream when I was a kid, I mean these guys. But you know you can never be caught like say well, I got the addition. Every day that went by the Locker. Then body called me up and said insurance paid up. ATLANTA. Now my paper. That's the Indianapolis Star. Indianapolis Star. You'll be here next Friday. Being. Indianapolis. Next Sunday and Monday. Yeah. Week from Sunday week from Monday, we're your. Name Mark Allen. Dennis told you that this was going to happen. I tell him respect streak. Okay. Yes. I guess you probably probably erupted going. That's where I. Guess you probably go through enough of these where you won't you don't even know it's hard to keep track of all this. Well yeah side are they don't commit to? Mostly want to talk to. The, guys I'm pretty good at this. Band. So only got two years of experience in. Yeah but it's pretty interesting I. Mean you get a perspective that the you know the other guys don't have just because they've been in it all the time I mean the the. He would talk about the first time you heard when you were a kid how all. Funk forty one if he wants. So you're. GonNa come. What I? Got, to. Be. Something like that that would have made me fourteen. When you'RE A kid. Who I made, you probably wouldn't even think that that bands would be around as long as savannah like the dead has been around right. Starting to play advanced back can. I get about eleven in Church, base to do my seven o'clock Sunday Gig I was playing band. Fourteen as in into all new stuff was particularly what was coming from San Francisco. San Francisco. Area. Did you grow up in the? Cocaine. Research, a rock and roll. Desert. At the time countrymen the big, David but Phoenix with. As far as Picking up on all the music from everywhere. So we did catch my ad grip bit out compare of the tubes of being in the dead of the match incredibly different experience. Different. Compare it to the tubes were like a traveling circus. Circus and set up a different town, every type which was. kind of crazy into itself we were to spontaneous. Although we had a great time to you know fun doing not all of that stuff and playing the place play. Was Fabulous, but the tour long and hard and. Two, hundred or more. Here that. The most interesting music can get boring. We had a we had been one thing did have in common with a big selection of songs to choose from it. Just the way the tubes went out on the tour because we had a show, we had the setup choreography and everything. So there wasn't many places where we could change songs. Once we got the tour together, we can change all the solid. Did another too early would do that. We had hundreds of song to pick from because together seventeen years, and then like the grateful dead have they played two hundred, thirty, three different ones last year. So that's one thing we have in common and then everything else. Was Different. Musically, it's it's. Very. Fulfilling playing with grateful dead because. Of the diversity and the fact that there's more emphasis on music. brought. Time Silas Dancing. The plan with Goop. But Great. Great songs and the data great songs. But the. Change up every night and that makes it. More interesting and IT'S A. Little easier going from my forty-one, your opponents to. Under hundred gigs of two hundred travel by bus and. All that kind of stuff as she not left the camps in the thinks about happened with the tube I'd still in that band because I'd have been loyal to them to the bitter end. But what did happen? Fee left France went on about him and then couldn't afford to do the show and go bad breaks set backs management. Only above and then more people rest band just wanting to walk. So I went with Todd Rundgren. For a couple of albums and a couple of I played on nearly human. To. The to show is was pretty amazing to watch. Like. You said three ring circus. That's sort of what it was like. People would come to come to the show, but that's another thing. We haven't call band hers as a lot of people would come. Both, times, to the show. and. Drink for that. Version it's just because it's a wonderful to be there and offer you gotta come. Here the size. That you want to hear. But with the tubes. Come just to watch the dancers sometimes listening to music. Sometimes they watch the prompts, go up and down it out watch the crew trying to be on stage and act and move skewed how quickly we could change the setting the dark out and. We have people coming. From multitudes, the reasons and Lockheed competent want to be in the to. The. Mound up performing with. Really. Knocker pro- Pearl Harbor. Even add Robin Williams try out for our talent contests where we picked. Winners to appear with. Two Week, run. At bimbos in a row, the lanes tried out and failed. Became friends player. He was unbelievable time. During And restyled. Don't touch me there and stuff. On a on a motorcycle journey stage that was are choreographer went onto move director because all this dance movies Michelle right up with todd ranks. Whatever. They set a baby rebound COUPLA became actresses didn't the tubes would have been done would have done better commercially if they hadn't been become known I for like white punks on Dope don't touch me there. With the anthem of the FM radio, you know a top ten most requests. I it almost makes you A. Novelty well, some people thought it. That way I think I prefer to a head of a time. I mean look what they're doing. Now it's not a novelty they take it seriously, but it's all. The new stuff around saying in the state takes percent. CHANCE TO QUITE As. Involved in Labrador show is not That a timeline. Economics where a little bit more conducive to that I. Don't think anybody could do that chill like the tubes on the level we did it in a small place. With you know a little overhead cost, US money to do that show every time we put it on. So what bans could do that for seventeen years and it must be amazing to to work in a band like the dead and know everywhere you go. The show is sold out. So there's no worry about selling tickets and Therefore. I I rape. Class then it's great the audience so cool to I love the giants defense tough and still find us to work with that serviced. Not much now, I'm getting a feel for it. Like. It it's kind of interesting that that's my wife gets. How much more we got Ten minutes? did you have to read the interview that the jury gave the Rolling Stone last October? I think yeah, I. Believe I did he was on the cover. Great. Yeah. He talked about a couple of times I wanted to ask you about It's talked about how he felt that there've been some version and You know these inside the ban moving forward and progressing at all did you see that as an as a new member or? Didn't feel because how could I compare it out of time I didn't know where it was coming from in the first place. So I couldn't sell. Lead. Now in retrospect. I I did take. Time out of their evolution, you know took some serious time out. They had to fall back I spend what normally would have been their whole year Budget on rehearsal and and working out new songs and writing and composing anticipate going into the past with well nick. You know we. We tried to knock off about ten songs day and we made great progress and everything but and we got to reduce some songs and and I think in some cases songs. Especially, the vocals after they had to analyze some with me. got. A little more. Poorest of debt but there are known as songs to learn, and then there no time to do them and they were They go out on the road almost immediately and We had very little time and. So yeah that's that's because of me but you know that was the way it had the patient in. Don't give a hundred and forty sellers say, Oh, case you're on. But I think I learned pretty quick. Work at home I would start spent more time at home working on it before we've rehearsed the. Hers. So I gave him a break here and there and probably. Pits for those guys but I don't think they were talking about having teach you the songs I. think they were probably plot. But. Transition. I. Their time for a whole year I. Hold your work in keyboard player in instead of what would have happened. And all I can do to make up for that is Quicker gift drink something into the park myself which I wrote saw with a couple of guys. And now I'm trying to make up for lost time. That was my next question actually was new material. I'm there there's no new debt time particularly, which doesn't really matter what you're touring sh. That will eventually be on an album but ran I know not now I I doubt if this year. What? Is. It likely will here and help you plan emotions. Okay, Corinna? Spilled seal. Are. Okay and that's a Mickey Hart Bob. Say That trump's. To. Only. Two hundred. And then Robert. Ranch and Phil did leave to the east of the Robert. Jerry's got so many roads which I believe is with hundred two. And I've got a way to go home which was with hundred bay. And there's a rear. Got Another Denver I'm working on. With. Barlow. Property left. and. There are other songs coming in but those were the only ones we got to kneel down before. We took off then we also do a COUPLA new covers but those are the originals. They're more. Closely, it Phil has another already time, but we just haven't learned it yet I think Jerry's got few in end bobbies have. We probably could host have announce worth except the band wants to learn them and take them on the road i. Get plagued with them. Before they go down to the record they don't like to. Brighten the studio like just to. Have a going there. Well, that's do that record. Then we learned learned what we we learned the is off the record after. Until we did. So. I like the way it's moving now and. It's coming right line. There's no hurry You know there's nobody is gonNA. It's GonNa. Fire upper but. Push us to do something before its time. That's really the luxury i. see this band, the freedom. Able to. Develop. Freely and not be under pressure from anybody. That's a really unique experience. The American I thought. Current streep it'd be like this. and then in this interview, he said he said if you're looking for comfort, join a club or something grateful dead is not where you're going to find comfort and he was at the question was about as difficult for newcomers to deal with the being. He said in fact, if anything you'll catch a lot of shit. If you don't get it from the band, you'll get it from the roadways. and. So has been tough to fit in. Those, right become. I don't think he. Realized where I was coming from. I don't have to share a room with anyone walk. I don't ride on a bus after GIG for ten hours anymore. I don't play two chosen night two shows a night sometimes I mean to chose gear and sometimes to the night for two weeks. Now attempts around top with his beauty in the top ten. It wasn't like that. But the last few years of my life before the grateful dead where toss between the tubes and Todd Rundgren. You know you gotTA. Deal with folks there, too. There was challenging thanks. We're taught that a really difficult doing a live album and only playing and singing, which usually you're just doing one of the other. you're also following a conductor who is tied and playing in front of an audience. That was a bit sped up. Forgiving and so the ban you know if I screw up, they're gonNA, call me on it and it won't happen again if. I can help it but they're not gonNA. Imbecile. Because of. And that certainly, the audience is GonNa hold anything against me like when I get up and walk to start got over and it's not you know in the beginning I did that. But I try to I, try to work real hard this I don't want to screw up. I-. Mistakes. But no, this guys totally comfortable. The crew and everybody just fabulous. Together. In have just a wonderful relationship with everybody. I wonder if he was being sarcastic and maybe he was being sir I I thought he was son you. Them with that interview but they were tired on me that they were very gentle, most generous and compassionate and I feel bad I feel like a big old wonderful family. You mentioned one, hundred, one, hundred, thirty, three song last year a typical year for the to what would you do? About Twenty, twenty five. Now do around we do more than that in the night. On a GIG Kelly? We talked maybe sixty but we had We had two hundred or more songs. Repertoire. But but Paul, we usually change well, maybe eighty change with all the songs for every two and we do about four years so but not nearly as many escape forbid that's still a whole lot of songs through. When you did the Todd Tours, I can't imagine that you had to learn nearly that many digits. On even have, we played the same exact thing about ca twenty or twenty. Same ones for the whole tour. The. Tubes these tubes because I was seventeen years in the making according that that set list, there's really complicated songs, but we worked on diligently and after a year. So you know the became second nature to you. So to do that many naturally time. Grateful dead. That's the most I've. A. Is. Upper. Sorenson this around. Ended the baton off to me on the spring tour. He felt things are going well and he is going to have his life. But he is coming out think he's coming out tomorrow and you gotta sit in. He's always welcome anytime. Yeah. We we miss him and We love to play with him, and of course, you're you must be comfortable with like dual keyboards because. All the bands played with more than one tossed bent at. The tubes had to. For Yeah I can I can hang with that and the likes of. Bruce on piano. Can you say? The fabulous guy can think of have. Playing with me. He's happy and we're happy and. And piece coming out tomorrow. It sounds like the you couldn't be. In a much better position than it seems like you've got your dream job right now. It's pretty wonderful thing. This crater efficient. I had with the kid, but is about eleven plus the people with their arms stretched out. Now. I'm living at it every night. Anyway. Is there anything else to tell people about you the tour the dead? Think it'd be interesting. Covered pretty well yeah. Okay. and I should ask this and it's just kind of memphis a goofy question but. was there anything through your your share of spinal tap jokes about dead keyboard shooter? No fear of that. No Way to go. Give it a try it. Happened good. Great well, I appreciate your time penske next Sunday. Okay Mark. Okay with me. Thanks for listening to. podcasts please remember you can always find more information about the show and the individual episodes at our website, the tapes archive DOT COM. Until next time, the vault is closed.

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The Unsolved Delphi Murders: Who is the Man On the Bridge?

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28:36 min | 2 years ago

The Unsolved Delphi Murders: Who is the Man On the Bridge?

"Hi there you found true crime recaps. This is the only podcast delivering a quick fix too. Busy chur crime attics who don't have time to get all obsessive. But still wanna discuss this crazy shit with a fellow addict, welcome friend. I'm your host, Amy Townsend. And I can't wait to tell you the latest, but I'm gonna keep it because I know you got blazes to be. So let's get into it with today's recap. Okay. I am so excited to talk about this. This is the Delphi murders. And if I am saying the name of that city wrong. I am so sorry God help me. I tried to listen to the police chief when he did his press conference. I played it over and over the little clip where he says the town name, and I think it's Delphi. But feel free to ride in tell me if I'm wrong anyway, people were murdered there. So we're going to talk about it there. Two best friends, Abby Williams, she was thirteen and Libby German fourteen. They had a day off from eighth grade on February thirteenth 2017. It's like a prearrange. And snow day or something even though it was warm out. And because it was warm they asked luby's older sister Kelsey to drive them to the Delphi historic trails. So they could you know, walk around take pictures just be outdoors. These are two really outdoorsy girls. So she agrees. She drops them off around two pm near the modern high bridge says abandoned railroad bridge tracks over deer creek. It's busy. There's a lot of people walking around. And this was kind of right at the trail head where she dropped them off. When she came back to pick them up a few hours later, they were nowhere to be seen a huge. Search party was formed, but it had to be called off after only a few hours because by that time it was too dark to see much of anything around noon. The next day February fourteenth their bodies were found about three quarters of a mile from where they'd been dropped off on the property of seventy seven year old Ron Logan who owns. About thirty acres in that area. So here's his deal. Because like me your first thought is probably that is the fucking guy. But it's not the fucking guy turns out he is the guy for another crime though, so kit this Ron Logan was on probation for multiple DUI's. And for what they're calling being a habitual traffic offender in two thousand fourteen and he wasn't supposed to be driving or drinking. But after all the attention he got because the girls were found on his property. Investigators discovered that all wron was still drinking and driving. In fact, he driven to the county dump on the day. The girls went missing, but stand-down witnesses put him there before the girls were even dropped off at the park. And then they found out he was driving and drinking down at the America's pizza king. So they arrested him anyway. And he alternately was sentenced to two years of house arrest. Can we say this person needs to learn about Uber? Quick side note, apparently people have been giving Kelsey Libby sister. A hard time about dropping the girls off to wander around these trails alone. And here's what she had to say about that bullshit on Twitter quote. I just wanna put out there that the girls were not dropped off in the middle of some isolated woods. I dropped them off at a walking trail where kids had been walking and hanging out all day. Yeah. I wish I hadn't. Yes. I get to regret that every day. We wish we would have said, no, unquote. May I just say this poor woman doesn't that kind of thing? Just make you wish you could hire Chrissy Teagan beer, publicist clapback at all the awful internet people on your behalf because AMB I right? No one does it as well. Or as hilariously as she does. I mean, we down to you, Chrissy. But if Chrissy was chiming in on that kind of hater talk, she'd probably say something along the lines of what kind of idiot thinks. Can tell two teenage girls that they can't go on a nature. Walk me. Why would you ever even think to try and keep them inside by all accounts? These two girls were active outdoorsy types. They played sports fish, they hunted. They did although smoke Indiana town things so a hike is a completely valid request. Now, if they had said, hey, could we go over to the home of the date rape? He football player and hang out unsupervised in his basement entering groovy laced hot chocolate can rookies actually work in hot drink then. Yeah. Of course, that's when you put your foot down, and you say hell, no. And you try locking them in their rooms with the windows nailed shut because that's pretty much what it takes to try and keep teenagers from doing whatever they want to do that had been me, and my mom tried to keep me, and my best friend from the great outdoors. I probably would have just snuck out and hitchhiked to the Delphi trails and been killed by the driver of the car that picked me up long before I actually got to the trail. I mean, not really I would never have. Voluntarily been hiking. But definitely trying to go to the mall or something. And I definitely wouldn't have been as smart as Libby was to get this actually get a picture and audio of my killer like she did to paraphrase, the Indiana state police sergeant that young lady is a God damned hero. Take a listen. This is the updated audio clip of the man on the bridge saying guys, and then ordering them down the hill the police just released this a few days ago. I'm gonna loop it four times, you can really hear it. It's a little muffled because it was in Libya's pocket and Lord knows if you can recognize the voice or just wanna get an ex-boyfriend in trouble. Call the Delphi. Police department just kidding about your ex unless he's actually the murderer. And then you should also call therapist because girl you're going to be traumatized for life. Anyway, here it is. Creepy. Hell, right. The video that goes with it is posted on our Instagram page at true crime recaps, it's a quick clip of this man walking toward Libyan Abby that she managed to grab with her phone before she shoved it in her pocket and got the audio. So why did you even think about pulling out her phone to tape? This guy you ask. Well, I was asking the same question. And from what I've read it seems that they may have passed him before they got to the bridge. And maybe he said or did something strange because she started recording audio before they got the bridge. And then when they saw him moving fast toward them on the bridge. They started taking that video a Stapley say more audio was played for the victims families. I've heard around six more minutes of audio was played. And it's mostly quote stuff girls talk about quote as well as a mention of a man they noticed behind them. But that has. Been released to the public. So that they have a way to know if in when they have the real killer so way of weeding out those false confessions. Now, you may remember I told you the police just released this audio and video this week, but that's not entirely accurate. They actually released the down the hill part of the audio in two thousand seventeen and then this new audio with the word guys at it is the new audio released this week the police also released a new sketch of the suspect this week. The first one was released in July of twenty seventeen. So like five months six months after the crime, and it's similar to the way the suspect looks in the video of him walking toward the girls. And also now you basically have to go to our Instagram page because for real it's all about the video is crazy basically be seen in alleged murderer right before strikes. He's a white male. Because of course, you've Guinness between five six and five. Ten Wayne one hundred eighty to twenty he's got reddish Brown hair. And no, you can't tell what is I color is. And he's wearing a hat, then the new sketch that they just released this week more than two years after the murders. Remember, a lot of sources are saying that it was actually drawn only three days after the crime in twenty seventeen the summer even going so far as to suggest that maybe the suspect called in on the tip line or acted as a witness and led to the release of the first sketch of a much older man, which means the police think he might have been disguising himself as an older man, or it is an older man who can look younger. So now, they're basically just looking for anyone between the ages of eighteen to forty which reminds me of the mask singer to have you ever seen that show on FOX? So really quick the mass singer is the singing competition sort of in which random celebrities. Get. All dressed up in these elaborate, costumes and whoever the costume designer is the real star that show, by the way. And they sing a song in front of judges and a live studio audience, and the judges have to guess who they are based only on their singing. And here's why the show is so stupid. And I swear it this is going to get us back to the Delphi murders. I promise, but the Massingir is so fucking dumb because these judges basically have the entire world of celebrities to guess from because these contestants they're not just famous singers. They could be actors athletes fucking YouTube stars whoever is basically impossible because you can't just be expected to guests from an entire fucking universe of possibles. Right. And that is basically what the police in Delphi are asking people to do some guy between the ages of eighteen and forty who may or may not look like the guy in the first catch or the guy in the second sketch. I mean, what the fuck despite the weirdness of these two totally different sketches, and the fact that they didn't release them until. Months and even years later, the police in this case actually seem really invested which feels like a big change from some of the law enforcement, in other cases, doesn't it? Although it actually makes sense when you consider the Delphi is very much that small town USA thing. It's only got about three thousand people, and it has a main street through the center of town and the jail city courthouse and library Earl within walking distance of each other. It's basically one of those little model train towns, except it's real and people get murdered there. And they generally don't get murdered in a little muddled train town unless you're some kind of cycle that murders your citizens in your little model train town. But honestly getting back to the point. If this guy does live in this town or know someone in town, and he hasn't been idea. I mean, how crazy is that come on some high schools have three thousand people and everyone's still knows who the total weirdos are right anyway. You need to hear some of the sheriff's press conference because he gets very wide open it, and it's kind of heart wrenching. But it's also weirdly patriotic in that like USA USA kind of way. I don't know maybe just hormonal either way I think it's worth listening to the whole thing. So that we can dissect it after it's only like six minutes or something in any pas, you notice are the detective getting choked up, I'm telling you, it is moving as hell he doesn't introduce themselves. So just so you're aware the detective talking is Indiana state police superintendent Doug Carter curious. Here. We're going to release today. I'm going to ask for your continued support. Continued understanding your Pathy and compassion as as we move forward to find out who did this, and we will. We're seeking the public's help to identify the driver vehicle that was parked at the old CPS welfare building in the city Adelphi that was abandoned on the east side county three hundred north next to your Hartland highway between the hours noon defy on February fourteenth two thousand seventeen. If you were parked there are no who was part there. Police content. The officers at the command post. At the Delphi city building. We're releasing additional portions of the audio recording from that day. Please keep in mind. The person talking is one person. And is the person on the bridge with the girls. This is not to different people speaking, please listen to it very very carefully. We also releasing video recovered from Libya's phone. This video has never before been previously released. To video shows a suspect walking on the bridge when you see the video. Watch the watch the person's mannerisms as they walk watch the mannerisms as he walks. Do you recognize the mannerisms as big someone that you might know? Remember, he is walking on the former railroad bridge because of the deteriorating condition of the bridge. The suspect is not walking naturally due to the spacing between the ties. The course of this investigation. We have concluded the first sketch released will become secondary has today. The result of the new information and intelligence over time. Leads us to believe the sketch which you will see shortly is the person responsible for the murders of these two little girls. We also believe this person is from Delphi. Currently or as previously lived here. Visits Delphi regular basis or works here. We believe this person is currently between the age range of eighteen and forty. But might appear younger than its true age. Directly. To the killer. Who may be in this room. We believe you're hiding in plain sight. For more than two years. You never thought we would shift gears to a different investigative strategy. But we have. We likely had interviewed you. For someone close to you. We know that this is about power to you. And you want to know what we know? One day. You will. The question to you. What will those closest to you think of when they find out that you brutally murdered two little girls. Two children. Only coward. Do such a thing. We are confident that you had told someone what you have done. Or at the very least, they know. Because how different you are since the murders. We try so hard to understand how a person could do something like this. To jolt to two children. I recently watched a movie called the shack. There's also a book the talk so well about evil about death and about eternity. To the murder. I believe you had just a little bit of a conscience left. I can assure you. How you left them in that woods? Is not. It's not what they're experiencing today. To the family. I hope that you all will give them some time because we're going to be asking that. There's no media inquiry where no media response for the least the next two weeks. And I hope you understand why. The family found out about this about this information this morning. What the family to know that? When I take my last breath on this earth. Hobby thinking of them. There's going to be a tremendous amount of questions. I know that I know that never in my career. Have I stood in for something? Like this. Please be patient with us. Please. We're just beginning. We are. We are just now beginning, and I can tell you on behalf of the sheriff in the police chief, so many other partners. That have stood with us over this period of time that we will not stop. Now, tell me that wasn't moving as hell. Right. So couple of things, you know, that part when he talks about the movie the shack, it's kind of weird that he's breeding up such a specific movie, title rights, and we're all wondering what the deal is with that. Right. Well, apparently in that movie. The main character grew up abused. He has a crisis of faith, and he has to decide if he's on the side of good or not sources say that by mentioning that means law enforcement knows the killer is somehow involved with the church and might be hiding his crimes behind the sod of being a good Christian like the Btk killer who is a freaking deacon at the church for God's sake. Oh and quick clarification. Okay. You should know that when he says local he means Carroll county, which is super rural. So this person might not be like townie, but he lives around Delphi, even as far as fifteen to twenty miles away. And it makes sense. Don't you think mean a random person would not just hap-? Happen to be walking down the railroad track and happen upon these two girls out of the blue in these trails. There's nothing, but speculation and very few facts associated with this case. So of course, I turned to read it to hear what the locals were saying about this. But anyway, the general consensus from every source I found is that the middle part of the bridge that video is taken on again, the video you have got to go to the Instagram watch the fucking video. It's really the scenic part of the bridge. It's really only acceptable from one direction. The other end is pretty blocked up with bushes, and it sort of a dead end. So with him approaching on the bridge the way he is. It's definitely weird enough to set up alarm bells. He's coming right out them alone. And he's not strolling or looking at the byu or doing anything else to put these girls at ease. However, because the girls had to come back the way they came like the way he's coming out them. They must not have known his intentions right away. I mean, obviously, if you're for sure positive someone is coming to murder, you you would run across the bridge toward the overgrown trail at the other end. And like there's some secluded houses. Not too far away that they could have reached if they kind of crashed through the brush, but they probably didn't want seem like they're acting bizarre by running away. And by the time, he got close enough to them. He probably had a weapon of some sort. And by that time running wasn't an option for them. So however it happened. He has them off the bridge and down the hill, and they presumably cross deer creek at the shallow part, which is sort of near that bridge at that time, it would have been up to their knees. And then he had them climb the Bank on the other side it where it's not a steep as the rest of the creek banks. That's the side of the creek there were found on so taking him off the bridge and across the creek would have been the most direct route. And with less chance at any witnesses coming by and seeing what was going on. Also make sense that he would be from Delphi since he would have known the terrain apparently another person came along the bridge not long after they'd been abducted. And you know, you remember what Libby sister posted. It was busy that day since it was warm out. And what about the fact that police are starting to focus in on the abandoned car at that building? He talks about it in the beginning of the press conference. Does the fact that bridge guy as we're gonna call him his car was apparently parked so far at that abandoned building does that indicate that this attack was planned, and he was waiting for somebody to be out on that bridge. So he could trap and isolate or was this just a spur of the moment thing because he saw the girls and decided that they looked vulnerable enough for him to grab them, and how creepy is it when the sheriff starts speaking directly to the suspect and saying, it's probably someone they've already interviewed and may even be in the same room with them at that press conference the other interest. Thing about this case is that the cause of death has never been released. Don't you think? That's so weird. I read one source saying they were strangled. But nothing corroborating that. Since there was some DNA where they found the bodies the police in Delphi have been swabbing people and asking others, if they'd be willing to offer their DNA if necessary probably just to start ruling people out since that was a place many people in town what have been walking through? Now, according to one Delphi. Resident the police have questioned people as old as seventy and as young as twenty including the family and extended family of both of the girls course, they're even going door to door to try and get answers. Does this case remind anyone else of the Golden State killer case at that guy was linked to more than a dozen murders and fifty rapes in California starting in nineteen seventy six and it wasn't until last year. Forty two years later that they finally caught him Joseph Dangelo, he was seventy three. And it turns out he was a former cop, and they'll catch this guy to me personally. I think they should run all the DNA. They found at the scene through ancestry dot com or Twenty-three me and see what shakes out like they did with the Golden State killer in that case cops you something called G D match which sounds like a dating site for people who only have a GED. But in fact, it's some sort of DNA database, but as we've established in previous episodes, I am not a dedicated detective working with an elite unit in New York City or anywhere. Really? But still here's hoping the Delphi. Police will do something similar to nail this guy. But if they were doing that chances are, then no one would know because law enforcement in this case has been incredibly tight lipped about details. I mean, not knowing the cause of death at this point even with so many people involved with this investigation that has got to be unheard of isn't it? But here are a few more factoid, you might be interested in. In the obituaries, Lipper tease. All right liberties full name, her date of death is listed as February thirteenth while Abigail Abbes is February fourteenth some people took that to mean. The autopsy results showed that Abby stayed alive longer than Libby and wouldn't leave her, but the family explained the discrepancy as one family choosing the date. They went missing and the other choosing the date that they were found despite the fact that the murders happened near a body of water creek the killer didn't put their bodies in the water. He left them just out of sight a passersby in the overgrowth near the creek. And the DNA that live forcement has is not semen or blood, but rather touch DNA which is harder to identify. But it would have been totally lost. If he had decided to leave them in the water. We also know a few other chilling details. Thanks to some early post by ABI step uncle who was part of the search party that found them he sends deleted the post, but some on. The ball true. Crime fans related parts of them saying that the bodies were covered with leaves. And that Libby, quote got the worst of it, unquote. But no more details than that. The autopsy results are sealed and no information about cause of death is available and believe me, I have loved we may not ever find out what happened near the bridge that day, but we do know is that at one time or another it's likely that one of the girls probably had the chance to escape, but it's hard to tie up one person and keep a gun or a knife trained on another person they stepped together because they were best friends, and I don't know about you. But I could never leave my friend. Did I either we both escape or we both die. And that's what seems to have happened here. I know it's corny. But can we just take a moment to silently say I love you too are besties mean it's easy to die for a person. But a whole other thing to actually, you know, be killed because of them non February thirteenth these girls died for each other almost certainly and in some kind of bucking terrifying way, God willing, we will never have to know firsthand exactly what their loyalty cost them. But dammit law enforcement needs to find this guy. In the meantime, maybe we travel impacts of three from now on because for sure one person in that group is gonna say fuck you both and run away. And then at least the guy could be identified and may be caught. But whatever your method of self protection. Make sure you keep your eyes open. And if anyone approaches you and raises the hair on the back of your neck breakout. Your best karate moves pitches. Meet should we hear this? The suspects audio clip. Just one more time to get us riled up and inspired to kicks mass. I think we should. So creepy it just blows my mind now, go give your best friend fucking hug and tell her about the show because I'm not above a shameless plug speaking of shameless plugs, if you like the show, would you please take a second to give it a five star review. Maybe even write a quick note about how much you loved it in tunes feel free to lie. If necessary it only takes a few seconds. 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#016 Izzy Stradlin 1993 (Formerly w/Gun N' Roses)

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18:51 min | 1 year ago

#016 Izzy Stradlin 1993 (Formerly w/Gun N' Roses)

"Welcome back to the Tapes Archive podcast where. We release interviews. That have never been heard before this episode. We have the rarely heard from and the coolest. Oh Gee from guns N. Roses is he straddling at the time of this interview. In nineteen ninety-three straddling was thirty. One years old and out on tour with his band. The JUJU Allen's in the interview is talks about growing up in Indiana the making his debut record. And if you still friends with his ex bandmates from guns and roses and other dozen roses related history. Mark are fearless. Interviewer had a negative breast with axl rose one year before this interview with Kinky market given guns and roses only two and a half stars for the performance where they played the Hoosier Dome during their monsters of rock. Tour Co headlined with METALLICA. Rosenstein blasted off an angry fax to mark to let them know how he felt. If you'd like to read Axles love letter to mark and March review of the show head over to our website or facebook page to read it as a bonus. I've added a letter from one of GR's fans that wanted to kick marks ass over the review to make it even more Indiana Ish. The Fan sent a letter to mark via his jail cell in Hamilton County. As always we have music critic. Mark Allen at the home conducting the interview. If you'd like to support the show please like follow and subscribe to us on Facebook Youtube Twitter instagram. There we post other content and information not available on the podcast. If you'd like to read the transcripts for any of our episodes please head over to our website. At the TAPES ARCHIVE DOT COM. Will jump into the interview. After a quick word from our sponsors the tate's archive is proud to be sponsored by the true crime documentary deadman's line you're wrapped around here trying to get a shot at Mate Banner. Us Nineteen seventy seven. Tony Koets is kidnapped a mortgage broker and held him captive for three days. The first time ever the media was able to cover the event live to some Doni was a hero to others. He was a crazy son. Dead Man's line. The true story of Tony Caridi says this award. Winning film is available exclusively on Amazon Prime. One last thing before we get to the interview. The tapes archived PODCASTS. Proud member of Cyrus media a global community connecting passionate fans with podcast and experiences about artists and topics loved. Thanks for tuning in. And now it's time to open the volt mark. Here's Mark Allen Star. Hey doing good good for that. Review guys Well we'll talk about no. That's that's genuine Loved that Record Review Man I My Dad He fact that over when we're in Japan. Yeah he's got a great right appear any stars like yeah. Everybody was stoked in the beneficiary. Oh I was just absolutely knocked out because I had no idea what to expect. I didn't know if you'RE GONNA come back with a record that sound like guns and roses or some other ideas boy. I put that on and I was just blown away. A you got a couple of fairly sentimental songs on there but Indiana and for what has been quoted as saying in the past I didn't think you had a whole lot of feeling for this near my rank was riven. Me this morning about that because Stand from one thousand nine hundred eighty seven. I was in California and guns and roses. We did some reviews back Is like the first ones we've done in eighty six eighty five drunker than shit and the subject. Indiana came up and somehow sputtering crap about it but I I moved back to Indiana in nineteen eighty eight eighty nine. I came back after we cousin. Roses have been on tour and made some money and bought a house back taste out of their sins. And I don't know it's just a case of My family I've got family. Got Friends back there and and kind of got to know the price again. I suppose but I take it back. I was just out there last week and we flew out here to get this. We're starting to now. Is it going to be strange for you to come home and play a club? It's GonNa be killer look so forward to we just got back into it. We'VE BEEN OUT FROM EUROPE JAPAN AUSTRALIA. And the first we did before the tour started. We did a quick clip gig up in Chicago and it was Sort of a launch. We wanted to launch the tour out of the states. And then come back and do it right then The response we got up. There was really great and the people made us feel really good so In Indianapolis well well we play. We do here and then then I can't remember what they were was. I think it was for me first. And then Deer Creek. Wisconsin has yet right. Yeah and most of the gigs. You know I I wasn't. I was playing in guns and roses and so on and so would start to go on a tirade. I just kind of stealing all come on. Let's go next song. That's that's how it felt in the audience to shut once it gets going. Did Kidding. Well one of the things that are that are like so well about the record is that it's such a raw rock and roll album and how close to live is when we recorded it. We did it like this we would. We would rehearse the songs sometimes. It was just me Jimmy and Charlie Jimmy and wreck and we'd rehearse it can get. Its where it sounded decent and go in and play it through like three or four times and then move onto the next time so in the course of a day. You know we would get through songs. Then we'd go back and pick the stuff out to be a take so it was mostly live and be back and throwing some over dubs stuff like vocals and guitar. Solos maracas stuff like that so mostly live which exactly the way. It sounds which is and well after working already illusions records for like two years. You know then recording so many songs. I can't remember that just really had the urge to just go in and do it how we did appetite for destruction. Which was you go in and just track it by three a fourteenth and move right along no messing around the record. God I guess you would say fairly positive reviews but everyone knows how much it sounds like the stones. Yeah does it. Sound like the stones to you We're not broken of trouble. No pressure drop. I there's two guitars I mean. There's the obvious to guitar thing happening. It has it definitely has stones stones influencing stones bribes and it's got a lot of other things too and maybe they're not as odd to me. I mean can earn. Sounds like the kind of music I like the plan here so I love the stones reggae and I like any music really. Let's all kinds of stuff even classical or just anything. I just love music. In retrospect which make the same record again. I think the next one we do do it. The same style you know. Same groove and that's the main thing is keep the grooves and songs we try to lean towards. Make sure each had a good group that you could you could borrow. If you've been unknown before this record you think critics would cut you some slack. I don't know you know I I tried to say it's hard to say because I I never have understood. What motivates someone to write a bad review? Or what motivates someone to really want to put some people down like bands Renner review of Keith Richards? Show when he played la. It was just sort of kind of start casting pointless rendition of this and that I think I saw those guys play live and I thought they were just great. I'm so you asking. I wonder if you've been unknown. Would they have looked at the record differently? I mean you know. I just wonder if if people are thinking about you. Think about guns and roses and then comparing goose to which reviews have been different navy more favorable or something else Antarctic say. It's hard to say. Let me ask you about some of the songs. Some shuffling makes it sound like. You're kind of Exhausted by the whole rock and roll lifestyle. Is that an accurate reading of the song as you wrote it at the time. That song was a song that Jimmy and I put the music together for I. He had this bass riff and we put that song again without any lyrics. I and start putting the lyrics together and I had a lot of lyrics for that song like more than any on the album it was. It took the longest meeting right that when I did ended up being a lot of I guess just flashing back on constantly living out of a suitcase and constantly traveling and but at the same time enjoying began that time I think baggage was getting a little heavy. Maybe so I I would figure that you feel differently about the lifestyle now. Being I've always loved Tori I got A. I got a bad ramp from the gunners found you know not wanting to tour and do videos and all that. I've always loved traveling. I've always loved playing different places. I'm not really sure what that song is exactly. But it's basically about putting those banks shuffling the stuff that your bank could live from suitcase. Suitcase for last is eighty six. It really gives you know kind of dispersion of just being tired of what you've been going through so I kind of figured that's that that may have been something you were writing either by. We're still with guns and roses just after just after what? What are your recollections of the train tracks that use the other than what you sing about in the song I have? I have a very similar on. The same thing happened to me I. Yeah that's exactly what I would do when I was a kid. Zia Record in Lafayette. The Train Dragon. That's where we used to hang out on time was gone there. We'd right dirt bikes and just hang out. Get all that kind of stuff and it was It was just like my favorite place to be. Hang out when I came back there. Eighty eight. That was the first place I went back to when I got back and I was just kind of hanging out going man this place you know. He's love hanging out here. This is my favorite place and that got the idea going for the song back then. Just kind of a biography tune or something a little bit about. Because that's where I used to hang out and we moved out to the West Coast and Birmingham band. Pop got a bunch of bad habits and kicked all that Shit and still hanging out down there to your family. Did this on make them feel a little squirrelly talking about getting stoned by the train tracks no I mean I haven't I haven't gotten a flak yet from my father and my my mom so I guess there's no lyrics on the Line Trish my daddy. I think they like to record. What caused you to write the song? Come on now inside. I wrote that back in Lafayette right before I came back to. La WITH JIMMY. Bass player was after I left guns and roses and it was one of the first winners that I'd ever really spent that much time back then and Indiana and I was there for just about a month and then it's like you know just was pretty. The weather was really bad. I was sitting around one day. The Sun came up man. I start feeling really good. You know and I just forgot how much at filling out little sunshine. I was sitting at my eight track and Qatar stuff and I just track that song. Just put it all together right. There was just one of those songs. Tell me about morten tea. Which told us the title theon credited song. That's that's really cool thing completely. Unexpected in many aspects that it's coming for one thing we'll see how it started was I've always wanted to do like just a percussion thing I've always been into trump's I played drums before played guitar bass or anything. We did this thing in Chicago. We had everybody the road crew and the band and everybody. We all plan different drums. And I got a couple of these Indian drums. Everybody down in Oklahoma like ceremonial drums and the song started out. We didn't Chicago and then we mixed the album in Copenhagen and Jimmy Mantis guys names at Gough. Brost Brian and he. He teaches African tribal drums. That's what he does for living and we met this guy and we hung out with them any super cool guy. He's never been to America which really blew my mind talking to a guy. He's from. Africa live in Copenhagen. And he's he's never been to America so his No idea what it's like here. But so he showed me like a basic pattern of just one trump the three parts to a he showed me the basic beat and I could play the basic. The other stuff was really complicated. Was really hard for me to learn how to play any of that other stuff and so we did a live track was me and him I played. Don't don't don't come on this talking drum. And then he played the answer drug which came back to it he put up and then we ended like two more tracks to at the end. It was finished. We had this track of guitar feedback. We kind of stuck with it was a trip though. I mean that drumming stuff is really powerful. Some of these guys that they're really know what they're doing. It's incredible trans. Is that the of thing that you might try more than the future. Yeah I mean it's something I still got these tapes. I've got all these west. African ritual draw since they've got right for ceremonials like when when a child is born. Have a celebration. And they have war four songs and stuff like that. I've always listened to these tapes over the years. I turn Steven Tyler onto a tape when we were on tour with him back eighty-seven with guns and roses and the use. Some of that stuff from the beginning of was it caused some kind of Voodoo off of pomp. Something I'd love to do some more stuff with maybe just like a song. Heaven part of the record or something or an intro. Maybe A GAFA. D- I've had a spell that the H. E. A. F. A. He's got a really long name. It was like Guy Add to a murky leave long. Look if up on that yet either. Rediscovering the guy could plan. How do you feel as front man? He comfortable In the spotlight brain. It's that was my I always say. Gee and our rehearsal most of the rehearsal it was usually just the ban wasn't usually in all the rehearsal so I'd always been singing guidebooks for welcome to the jungle in Paradise City and all that stuff and it was always something I'd been doing but it was pretty easy step to to to go into that. I mean the first the first week it was it was one of those things we go and say to myself. I said well I can see enough. You know to to pull this off and the only question would have been whether or not my voice would take you hold up to an after three months of being on the road. It's no problem. GotTa do some warm ups. You need to do like twenty thirty minutes a warm up every night and that's about it really. I mean Denise Eaton Rapids Okay Okay just a couple of things. Are you still friendly with the those guys goods are yeah tricalm me harass banks like four? In the morning I was sleeping and I got the mess spoiling I saw slash in New York last year in January and I've talked to man I haven't talked to access for the last year since December of ninety one but I'm sure he's been busy in The time you know left the left the doors open if they want a car or anything like that. There's no animosity on my part. One thing I could ask you is what the Hell is wrong with that guy accent. I don't know man you'll have to him. He's just I don't know. Forget about the conduct of the weird things guys just out of control. Yeah Yeah Yeah you gotTA wonder. Yeah just I thought maybe. Add some clues since you've known them for so many years I really don't atrophy when you saw that. Where's izzy sign in the video with the that make you mad Don't cry that I dealt with Shit. I'm here in Indiana. What do you mean aware that since you gotta go? I wanted to ask. Can we do something in person and more in depth? When you're home you know either. Come up and talk to you at at the house or you know if you don't want to do that just kind of driving around. Lafayette and talk about places used to hang when you're a kid and that kind of Stam and that could be cool. Yeah the next. We're GONNA be back there a few weeks ago and tour so maybe we could send some dumb sure. It'd be a lot of people down there from Lafayette and it'll be probably seen but we could probably do cook up something leaving the day. Tyler. That'd be that'd great. I'm how how come I work. I guess you need to get a hold of Alan Management for or tell the Geffen. Okay tried to set it up an advanced now. That'd be really cool. That'd be great because there's a lot of things I want to ask you and I knew he'll at twenty minutes so just okay covered the basis but yeah sure we do something again at the great all right thanks. I'm really looking forward to the show. I think this is GonNa be as can be really cool. Do you have a lot of stuff? That's Unreleased that you're GONNA be plant. Yeah we got. We got a few songs that we we haven't recorded yet. Okay all right. Well I'll let you go and I'll try to set something up. I hope we get it together. I Look I. I can't wait to cool thanks. Hey thanks for listening to the tapes. Archived podcasts please. Remember you can always find more information about the show and the individual episodes at our website the tape archive dot com until next time. The vault is closed.

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#49 Paul Barrere (Little Feat) 1992 Interview

The Tapes Archive

16:15 min | 7 months ago

#49 Paul Barrere (Little Feat) 1992 Interview

"Welcome back to the tapes archive podcast where we release interviews. That have never been heard before. And this episode. We have little feat guitarist. Paul berar at the time this interview in nineteen ninety two array was forty four years old and was promoting little feats upcoming concert at deer creek music center in the interview barreiras about his memories of little feat founder. Lull george how well the band is playing and what bugs him about the music biz. This week's interview is hosted by mark allen one last thing before we get to the interview. The tape archive. Podcast is a proud member of cyrus media a global community connecting passionate fans with podcast and experiences about artists and topics. Thanks for tuning in. And now it's time to open. The vault is the last thing we heard from you right there. There's something new coming. Well we're gonna after we finished touring We're going to start in the writing process and Hopefully we'll get down staring to records and stuff before the end of the year and we'll probably have another record done by. I would imagine next summer. Once we get started we tend to get them done pretty reasonable. It seemed to be putting a since the group got back together. You've been putting out one. Touring putting out another touring can like that that you kind of take some time. We decided not to go into the studio. We put me up last september so we kind of missed out on a summer tour for it and the records obviously run. Its course but we wanted to do a nice summer tour this year and so it The opportunity arose to do this co headline thing with george thorogood. And it's been working out really well so it's we're still you know kind of promoting Shake me up at We're basically to have fun and to play and let people know there were still around and we've actually in cut-back on the schedule from i mean we. I put the band back together. We toured ten months out of that that first year when we released let it roll and and then we rent right in and did Representative and we toured somewhere between eight and a half nine months for that one and it was like oh okay. We've reestablished the fact that we're back. Let's free acquaint ourselves with our families. My wife and i just had our second child five months ago and she was very happy that i was home for for for that and with their to change the diapers because we have a three year old as well for the first four months before we started touring again. It's been good everybody's actually got well. at least. The writers in the ban has started some songs and stuff so that when we do finally get off this road trip we won't be starting from scratch. There's there's Stuff to work on what we hear anything new when you're here well we've worked up some new things for little. They're not new sound for some. There's some old blues classics that we feud gusts since when i first remembered them. When they were cor-ten. I mean used to cover tunes like forty four blues and how many more years and things like that and it's something that we kind of gotten away from billy came up with the idea of doing a bit of heel little walter classic mellow down easy which was on the first paul butterfield blues band records so we kind of cover a little bit of that and We came up with when we were doing these all acoustic shows which we tend to do now and then we'll go out for a weekend go into a club and a town and play nothing but cocoon feet music which is great. But i came up with this. Little medley of muddy waters. Tune can't be satisfied. That segues into a robert johnson tune hot tamales on the red hot. So we'll think we'll hear those. Oh you'll hear the rate we're going to play those now Ashiq me up. I thought it was the best. Although the representing the mambo. The song is my favorite song that you've done for years Shake me a sounds like the best record. They've put together since span reformed. So what do you think. Well personally. I thought the same thing i thought you know. I think all free albums are gyms a letter over. Probably the safest mainstream kind of rock and roll record of 'em all representing the mambo class that you liked that records like for some reason. It seemed to go right over. A lot of people's they changed to forget the little. Was that weird. Like all they want to hear. From little was the letter roles. In the heat he'd lose your levins. The dixie chicken clones or whatever you know. They've they've forgotten all about you know the day that the dog races in this this stranger side of little aden. I thought represented. The mobile is just perfect. You know i mean we had. That's on there. We had the new we had killed for screen. I mean they were all very. We'll never be accused of being alternative rock for a while. There we were. You know been called earth or something i think it just it just shows the musicianship of the band. I mean an offer. You gotta song like those feels on which is run out of the willan type of john some kind of poking fun at yourself which is great and then we did this out which is a combination of both have spiders lose which i love that song in la. I loved clown into really great the choir effects you know bonnie bramlett just wailing on it and then Shake me up the typical atypical little really hard rock and kind of shovel and yet. The album went absolutely nowhere. Was like wait a minute. Stop the president. What's going on here. Something's wrong with fiction. Little records tend to sell over the long period. I mean it took twelve years for filming out a gold and dixie chicks and even longer so these things are like nobody little jammed in. Somebody's time capsule somewhere. People will discover them event. Yeah i think they do and it always amazes me how much people come up for. Just got into the band over the last three record since we put it back together and then they go back and they listen to the all stuff and they go toy. There's some stuff thirty. It's really rewarding. It's like being a good author end up like a great painter where you're dead and then people discover unique time over here of about. That's how that whole thing is like go Friends who had this garage band and they had a son was gray was called. I don't wanna be the vinnie van gogh of the radio because you have nowhere. They didn't know we make no money. I guess there's no chance that we're going to hear mambo played live. We don't do it. Live within the electric show. We've been doing it in the acoustic. So it's really a kick but We've pretty much put together kind of a rock and roll. Set the this tour this year. With with organ we started out with him down in florida and we were closing the shows and he was opening and he tends to hammer people he really iraq and guy we would come on if we were starting to play some some things that were a little bit more musical and not quite as Didn't have quite a much. The impact something to record thought choice and it tended to get lost in the shuffle. We kind of Geared towards more rock and stuff. We'll still do you know hanging onto the good times in a couple of acoustic little gyms but for the most part we're moroccan. Does he pump you up to. I mean does having him on the bill with you. Make you play that much harder. Oh sure there's always a friendly kind of competition that goes on amongst bands especially when they're this tour is really unique for anyone that i've ever been on his far. The co headline thing because it truly is a co headline thing. I don't even know when we play in indianapolis might have to look in the book to see who is closing. The show usually do pretty. Well here it'd be surprised. I mean the only time story is played here is played at club and he's very was an opening act so well sometimes promoter seems to think that it's better if he closes it because he is so loud. It's unique in the fact that we're both playing an hour forty five minutes. There's a that kind of yeah. Well we're going to do a show together then. We should be compatible. You can't really do something that makes so hundred and eighty degrees. That people will get it or wants to around. Listen or something like that. Recently we closed most of the shows up until some last couple of. We've we've opened for him and so it's like on the other foot nights like okay. We're gonna play our our and forty-five first and see how you fall. It's actually a lot of fun. The guys in his band in georgia have been very cool. God played The other guitarist. Georgia steve kerr smer has joined our force on. We've been out on the golf course every day I've heard i've heard the description of the over forty rock and rollers Typical day is eighteen holes. In a meeting. A butch trucks when the allman brothers came in. He said i've got a day off when we're coming here. Where where should i go. Play calls exactly work. We toured with them last Fall and that was when you can get guys from motley crue golf and you know really gone wacko in the world days dazed sex drugs and rock and roll. I guess must be over. We're must be a safe sex and golfing rock. The last time you were here. Which was two years ago. Now and silverscreen was the song that you really stretched on as among all the new ones Is there something from shaking up that you're going to stretch out on this time. Train the truth the only phone we're doing from Sick this iq. Although you know that can change in a moment's notice we have fun with about sixty five. It's been kind of strange. We've been actually stretching out more on the The blues tunes in particular mellow down easy in a local blues and things like that has this new labels working out. It's okay there still are enough problems that new labels are want to have and so that part of actually taking a chance in in going from a major label warner brothers to a new subsidiary. We actually isn't a subsidiary but they're distributed by another company polygram. So it's it's tough sometimes to get all the necessary things happening to sell records you think in the scheme of things. How many brand new label there are. It's pretty frightening. Like every fighting for the airspace and the and the rack space and the rack jobbers businesses the businesses jeans and enough for the better as far as i can see all those little seed i mean. I think it's changed for the better. The last time you were here was the best. I've ever seen you seen you about ten times since Seventy seven right right. I'm you know the thing about being as consistency. You know whether it's just the fact that we've matured or more serious about our instruments and music not really sure exactly what the defining line was. But we seem to be a much more consistent ban night after night and since it's really just a joy to play. Yeah and that's true because there were nights where he'd come out with low and you just never knew how participatory he would be run. It was So it is kind of cool to see now and no you're going to get a great show as opposed to wondering if you're gonna get a greater wondering if our who was gonna sing. What are do boy. Those days are strange. Like every now. And then i'll read in the paper. Where the hank williams junior went out and played sixteen minutes in saint louis or something like good night feel like. I'm so glad those days are over for us to some fun memories of that they can't. Oh yeah absolutely we have capes and there's actually a couple of video tapes of some shows that we did from back then that are just phenomenal. It's really good. You know. I tend to forget how well we used to play because there was that eight year layoff bands. And there's stuff that just phenomenal. We have some jam tastes from her with the people like john. Clamor came in and played sax on day. Robben ford and just things where we just got together and jan. That are like well. That's pretty neat. It's amazing to think that it's been in existence like twenty two years twenty three or two of any theories on why little pieces never become like a major commercial act. I think because we're so diverse. Probably the main reason if we were just a southern boogie band or just I don't know a country funk band or whatever brand of music that we're playing at the time i just that then you know liberal and go. Oh good okay. We can put these guys in this pigeonhole here. We'll promote them as such and we'll we'll talk to them about their image which they have won't get a nice clothes and we'll do the arab those they got the here you know it's like we're abandoned. Just you know like the play music. That's not really what marketing is all about. That isn't even really a music is about anymore. It seems like you don't really necessarily as about if now but music business. Yeah i mean the. It's like you don't even have to be a player anymore. You can just producer or something i think. The whole realm of video and video performance aren't thing that bugs me most about the businesses that you'll have the major people in all those different genres and then you'll have the clones and some of the clones are making as much as the major people. It's like if you put blindfolds on people in play the music and said okay. Can you tell me that band. Abc or d would fail anything else. You want me to tell people about the u the band. Anything gotta hope you. Don't tell them all this. You're just wonderful. I can't wait to see what this sounds not. Just tell the come out. We will definitely have a good time to the thing about the ban in this tour. That were not really promoting anything. We're just out playing and we're having a good time. It's evident in smiles on our faces. The translates the smiles that are on the audience faces. We're here to have a ball. One other question kind of goofy question. I'm asking everybody interview if they have a favourite lyric about love. Either your own or somebody else's talked tori amos yesterday and she pick dixie chicken. She thought that was her favourite. Loves on yeah oh man pick ever mentioned of it does in a weird way got you know. The cynical view wants to say low stink. I'm not gonna do that. You know the problem with that is. There's too many sappy about love. This good love songs to the way. I'm feeling now having been gone from home for about three weeks. I think missing you. It probably okay all right well. I'm looking forward to seeing start venture pitcher. That's all right. Thanks bye-bye listening to the tapes. Archived podcasts please. Remember you can always find more information about the show and the individual at our website tapes archive dot com until next time. The vault is closed australia. The land down on. Im from brazil guys. I'm from south africa. Tell me something. What would you say if you knew the world was listening to. My boss and his wife are terrible people. I mean i love my man oughta get me wrong. Dude is what. Let's get jack in the loop on what's the word the international show of word of mouth. You can find us by kenyan. What's the word at acorn studio.

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151: The Delphi Murders

Ghost Town

21:26 min | 6 months ago

151: The Delphi Murders

"Hey guys my name is killin. Welcome to my coffee. Talk if you're ever in need of a good life chat over warm beverage. Then i'm about to be your gal. You can basically think of me as your online cafe buddy that anytime you need a boost of inspiration a good cry or a pep talk. You can always find me here sitting and brewing up all of the words that you wish to hear here on the coffee talk podcast. We have four. Different styles of coffee brews from coffee to espresso decaf and cosmic coffee. Bruce talk about life experience in the real world. Espressos are all about inspiration and learning how to adult dicaprio's our health and wellness plus all things environmental and cosmic bruise are fun brew where we talk about spiritual and supernatural things some of my favorite conversations that i've ever had in life have happened over warm or cozy beverages the topics and the times where you just get mad real mad honest and super vulnerable about the things in life that sometimes we don't get to talk about with other people those are the kinds of conversations that you're going to hear hear whether there with me or with other people that i bring onto the podcast so grab a cup of whatever you like an let's get on a murder down the hill. I'm jason horton. I'm rebecca leave. And this is ghost town. A credential new lead in the unsolved murders of thirteen year old abby williams and fourteen year old libby german. Those two eighth grade girls last seen snap chatting on a hiking trail in delphi indiana in two thousand seventeen but despite this video and audio of the suspect taken from libby cellphone just four years ago to teenage girls. Were murdered in delphi indiana. The case is horrifying but the evidence collected by one of the very brave young victims. Makes it really intriguing. Frustrating and also. Perhaps solvable today. I'm going to be talking about the murder of abby williams and libby german also known as the delphi murderers thirteen year old abigail j abby williams and fourteen year old. Liberty rose lynn libby. German were best friends and pretty typical like good kid type teenagers. They both loved sports their friends their family. Libya was part of the swim team. Wasn't tent on helping people. She wanted to go to college. Get married and studied to be a physician. Abby on the other hand wasn't sure what she wanted preferred exploring and wandering around delphi again just being like a normal young teenager. Late middle schooler. It was one thirty five pm on monday february thirteenth twenty seventeen that libyan abbey were dropped off by luby's older sister kelsey on country road three hundred north. The girls didn't have school that day and it was really nice afternoon again in indiana. That doesn't happen very often. So they decided to take a hike on the historic deer creek trails. East of delphi at two o. Seven pm libby. Posted a photo of abbey walking on the moon high bridge over deer creek was the last anyone would hear from either of them and the photo itself to you can find it online. It's really sweet and it's just it's so innocent. It's like two girls exploring the woods. Which is something. I did as a child. I'm sure a lot of people did to around noon about half a mile from the high bridge where libya had photographed abby afternoon before. They reported missing at five thirty pm that day after they didn't show up to meet libya's grandfather mike at three fifteen pm as planned. The families initially just went to the trails and searched. Then they call the police. The search for the missing girls formerly started then with local authorities that night the search was called off because of darkness but it resumed at daybreak on february fourteenth. Two thousand seventeen with hundreds of community volunteers including libyan abbey's classmates and friends. Joining police and firefighters in the search around noon about half a mile from the high bridge or libby had photographed abby the afternoon before one of the searchers found libyan abbey's bodies found according to law enforcement officers where they were killed of course the community especially the middle school students. Were incredibly upset. Really broken this was. I want to state. This delphi was a small town. This didn't happen there. People knew each other very well and everyone trusted each other. It was one of those towns. The middle school hired grief counselors security. The delphi church held a vigil that night. And i i may have said delfi earlier. I believe it's delphi. I'm gonna go with that nine days. After the discovery of the murdered girls police revealed a still of the video and also audio that libby again really heroically captured on her mobile phone which was found on her body. Police believed libby recognized that they were in danger when a man approached them and turned on her phones video camera. The angle of the video indicates that she had her phone down low possibly next to a pocket in her clothing while the police have not exactly said what happened next. It is believed to be then concealed. The phone in her pocket with the video camera still on the man depicted in the video is caucasian male. His hands in his pockets walking on the real bridge head down toward the girls. He seems like an older guy. Kind of guy that you think is would walk through the woods. A loner again. It's hard to really say from the still. It was initially released. He looked threatening. He specially to to you know young teenage girls a few days later. The person in the photograph was named the prime suspect in the double homicide and nicknamed bridge guy or bg for short and especially to the vibrant reddit community. Who is actively discussing this. Case on february twenty-second police released audio from louise phone hoping to get more leads from the community. It is garbled but here. A deep male voice saying down the hill maybe indicating. He forced them to walk under the bridge. Police indicated the additional evidence from the phone had been secured but that they didn't release it so when compromise any future trial by this time the reward in the case was set at forty one thousand dollars the day after two thousand more. Tips came into the indiana state. Police based on the audio alone. The fbi got involved at this point because so many tips kept coming in. They couldn't manage to do it alone on thursday. March ninth surgeon. John parine from the indiana state police said based on donations and fundraisers the reward had surpassed two hundred twenty four thousand dollars and the police received more than eleven thousand tips on friday march seventeenth indiana state police the fbi. And the carroll county sheriff's deputies a search warrant to the home and property of ron logan who owned the area where the bodies of abbey were found in february unfortunately they did not find anything any information and the search continued. But let's take a little break. 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If you haven't yet please give it a great review and we will read it on here and if we haven't read your as yet sometimes the way it just doesn't come through immediately so it it's not real time so might have to wait for apple podcast to digest it and it back out at us. Yeah when the time comes you will know. Just keep listening and without further ado. We'll get back to i. Guess let's go back to delphi. Indiana on monday july seventeenth. The police released a composite sketch two months later. A man named daniel nations is in colorado for having an expired indiana license plate and police say he could be the person in the sketch she could be linked to the delphine murders. People get excited about this. You know in a way where we can give some closure to this case. Police later confirmed that he was living in indiana and homeless at the time of the murders. So he goes back to indiana on february fourth twenty eighteen because nations failed to register as a sex offender but in early february two thousand eighteen authorities said that nations was no longer considered an active person of interest in the delphi murders. The composite sketch again more tips came in at that point too. I guess they kind of look alike but this composite sketch kind of like the still could be many white guys out in indiana. It's hard to doesn't really give you a ton to work with and again a hence all of the tips on monday. April nineteenth twenty nineteen indiana state. Police announced a new direction in the case and also new materials. The first new material is a short video recording of the blue. Jean jacket had suspect walking along the rail bridge for a little over a second. The police know that because of the deteriorated condition of the bridge. The suspect might not be walking naturally due to the space between ties of course postulations to that. The person could walk fine on a bridge and he may have had a handicap or walked with a. You know an non normal gait just trying to give maybe more leads as to who bridge guy is or giving him some more distinction than we could. So what else do we get a new composite sketches released. The sketch looks very different from the first composite. Sketch in a lot of ways if you compare them. The sketch looks a lot younger than the first one. The police now believe that the suspect is between the ages of eighteen and forty and may look again younger than his true age. he also doesn't have a goatee like the first sketch and at the same time. Police reveal more audio from luby's phone. Please think the killer lives or works in the delphi area and or visits the area frequently and maybe even had been interviewed during the investigation. He is for sure familiar with the area and might be hiding in plain sight. A lot of people think this because the bridge was really remote when you lead someone through the woods. You're usually familiar with the area inasmuch as committing a murder there in more of the audio clip. You can hear a man saying it may have been part of his initial approach. The girls you can hear the word is before the familiar down the hill phrase so we don't get a ton from the audio just guys but but again guys is something guys would mean. Maybe you're familiar with some guys is a colloquialism from the midwest and a lot of ways people think that because of that might be a teacher but again would a teacher address their students as guys. I don't know it just feels familiar. So who did this. It may have been dale nations again. We talked about that but he was no longer a suspect at this point. Another person of interest was thomas. Bruce who formerly worked as a pasture and was charged with fatally shooting. One woman sexually assaulting two others after having ordered them at gunpoint into the back room of a suburban st louis shop for religious supplies. Some there were some similarities. Between that case and the delphi murderers so bruce committed his crimes in broad daylight on number nineteen two thousand eighteen. He's also similarly built to the man in the clip around five foot seven five foot nine inches but again. It's hard to verify the height of the person the clip also. He was wearing a flat cap and navy blue jacket during his attack again bearing some similarity to the delphi suspect and december fourth. Bruce was charged with seventeen. Felony counts related to the saint louis case and is in jail awaiting trial. It could be a man named charles eldridge who also looks like the old composite sketch. He was arrested on january. Eighth two thousand nineteen in union city indiana. On charges of child molestation and child solicitation a lot of people read it talk about it being a school employees. Like i mentioned before as everyone was out of school that day or it could have been someone who worked at the school again. What what would make these girls feel comfortable enough to maybe not. Where is the line or you know uncomfortable enough to start taking video. Another theory is that it was someone who worked at the nearby meatpacking plant. There was a plant not too far from this wooded area and a lot of the times. The workers would come down into the forest to take a break or smoke or whatever either way unfortunately the delphi murder is still unsolved far from cold just three weeks ago. An anonymous donor put one hundred thousand dollars into the reward. Fund meant to solve the case so now the reward for information leading to conviction in the case has increased to three hundred twenty five thousand dollars which is incredible. It's great that people are still talking about this and caring about this and also something nice maybe coming from this tragedy kelsey german. Liz older sister who is now. Twenty one is studying psychology and forensic science at purdue university to help homicide victims families. She also helped create nap called crime door that allows people to investigate cases themselves in the delphi murder case. It gives you a map and case information and takes you right to the high bridge creating a simulation to what the girls may have seen or experienced on that day to me. This feels like a case that with enough people investigating enough of spotlight on. It could be solved and also. We don't know how much the police have in terms of other footage from the phone which is something that frustrates a lot of people myself included. I heard of this case. Just all which is great. A lot of people have covered it. And there's a lot of conversation happening and it seems so close Close in time. It just feels like it's on the verge of getting solved or getting some kind of closure if you described the trailer to a movie like this. I'd be like wow what a what a what a really interesting compelling movie but it's real and it's where you're dealing with instead of not just oak. Can you composite sketch you're dealing with video and digital where it's not missing. It's they're like the person didn't think like unless you have a cell phone. Let me take that away. Not maybe not being aware of those things or just wasn't thinking of the time i don't know but that makes it when you have a little bit of tiny bit of audio and tiny bit of video. He's an even the word guys Could theoretically solve the case. One word can do that and think about how much video is taken. We take every single day. How many photos where. Just one word can match. Somebody's voice or whatever. I've also i think a lot of true crime. People probably on to on tiktok talk about crime door lot. This is one of those you know. We're talking about something that happened in like nineteen thirty five. I don't know how much coverage will help. Maybe it will but when it's something that just a few years old and so close like it's feels so close. I think it's really great that a lot of people are covering recurring. If i'm really surprised that three hundred and twenty-five thousand is if somebody knew something i can't be bought unless you are a prominent social or government figure. You're going to be like. I'm going to sell out somebody that i would normally sell out for three hundred twenty five thousand dollars feel like somebody knows something. Which shall we say a lot. And i think that that amount would be especially if the person's a bad person it's not a matter of like you're you know you don't question your own morality on this one. They must really. You know maybe people. Just don't know but i feel like as people people keep talking about it and there's the rewards big enough. There's probably at least one person alive that know something and that's a very very interesting place to be the case like this. I was reading an interview with sheriff about this case. And they asked him what the single most difficult part of solving this case or why hasn't been solved yet and he was like because this guy didn't talk to anyone because his person who looks like a generic as generic as you can really come went into the woods killed two girls and just vanished. You know like they don't know the ties obviously. They can't get identification on him. So really the only thing is people. Hopefully recognizing the changing composite sketches. And maybe the voice but even the voice again. i urge you to visit the clip. It's really terrifying. And listen to it last night. And i was like time to not go to bed. There's not there's not that much you know but also i just want to emphasize to like this. Thirteen-year-old girl scared probably out of her mind decided to like turn on her phone and take video. And there's some very empowering that this happened at this time that we can maybe have more things to get to. Who did this then in. Nineteen thirty five kind of thing and jenna would. I have done that as a small middle school. Or i don't know like how incredible is that and hope thought would be if this person plans on her has done it to other people in might put an end to that which finding out who this person is so definitely. It's just super brave in a time where you don't know what you do in that case and we'll talk about a lot about technology and how negative it can be but sometimes you know exactly what you need and i knows anything you know. Put the word out there and just keeps talking about it and the number is i. Don't have it in my notes right now but it's everywhere for tips. You put it in the description in any links and stuff like that so totally and read it. I mean people are have continued to talk about this case. There's something very again it's like innocent. And compelling it reminds me a little of cereal to or it's like you know the loss of innocence. Kinda thing and also. After i did this i went down a wormhole in terms of like people's last texts and phone like there's this whole new dimension that technology brings to cases like this that is terrifying an eerie and helpful. Like it's all of those things phones. They can be good sometimes. Hey listeners even amidst this crazy year we've had lots of people have been creating great art from impactful movies to binge worthy tv to entertaining podcasts. Like the one. You're listening to right now and now. We're in the middle of an exciting time of the year award season. Our podcast love under lockdown is nominated for best documentary. Webby award and we would love your support. 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CNN10 - 8/19/20

CNN 10 (video)

10:00 min | 1 year ago

CNN10 - 8/19/20

"First Week of our season is rolling along here on CNN Money Carl Zeus it's great to have you watching I love starting off his show with hopeful news and here is some hopeful news concerning corona virus. A number of studies are looking into our immune system's response to the disease. Several of these studies are in their early stages in heaven been reviewed yet, but they're giving. Some encouragement that our bodies are learning to detect corona virus and worked to keep people who've been infected from getting sick. Again, a couple of these studies looked at cells important parts of our immune system that can attack and kill cells that are infected. One study blood samples found that between twenty and fifty percent of Americans. In some places may have t cells that recognize Toronto. Virus even if they've never been diagnosed with it, scientists don't know why it might be a response to other corona viruses. We've caught like the common cold. They also don't know if a recognizing cove nineteen means the cells are good at finding it but they're optimistic about the findings another study looked at the antibodies produced in response to and protection against Corona virus it found that. Are Antibodies may be good at fighting recurrence of the disease for at least four months after people I become infected there've been a number of cases of people testing positive for covid nineteen more than once Ba. Researchers say they haven't seen huge numbers of reinfection even though the virus is widespread. So this suggests the body's immune system is working to protect us from catching it multiple times. been proven yet scientists say time will tell when it comes to corona virus immunity. Ten Second Trivia. What kind of bird is unable to fold its wings ostrich? Penguin condor delicate. Wings more like flippers that help it swim through the water, but they don't bold. New Research has yielded new theory about penguins for years. Scientists have said, the animals originated in Antarctica researchers at the University of California Berkeley say penguins first came on the scene in Australia and New Zealand scientists teamed up with International Museums and universities to look at blood and tissue samples from eighteen different penguin species. From this they suggested that the ancestors of modern day penguins first occupied temperate environments which can. Have Warm Summers in addition to cold winters. The research proposed that the predecessors of today's king and Emperor Penguins split off from the rest in pursuit of the abundant food supply of Antarctic waters. Today different species penguins can be found in very different environments from the frigid polar landscape of Antarctica to the tropical region of the Galapagos Islands and the study says how they got to such different places is still controversial. We know a lot of you who usually watch this show on campus are now watching it home online just a small part of how your lives have dramatically changed in this pandemic universities and colleges have unique challenge in this to they still have to pay professors, maintain buildings, run programs, but tuition may not currently include the full college experience. So, we kind of find out on their website on their frequently asked questions. It said it will be getting a refund and they said, No Wind Schreyer Patel launched her petition to lower tuition fees at Rutgers University in July the New Jersey University had just announced that most of its fall classes would be conducted online though just doesn't make sense be paying such a high amount for something that's not. Being used the vote advantage nearly thirty, one, thousand signatures. Later she's created a movement for other frustrated students like Jenny Subramanian so I think the biggest thing is a lack of transparency. We don't know where this money is going the pressure from nearly half of the student body ultimately led the school to cut campus fees for the semester bike fifteen percent not enough says Jenny tuition reduction would be great but. There's So fees are what we're pinker and if we're not going to be here, then what's the point experts like Scott Galloway himself a university professor beliefs students are right to be outraged universities have backed themselves into a corner, and that is we have raised tuition on average two and a half fold over the last twenty years more than seventy five percent of the country's five thousand colleges and universities are expected to be partially or fully online this fall and summer joining rutgers discounting fees. Williams college is dropping tuition fifteen percent Johns Hopkins Princeton Georgetown Spelman and Clark Atlanta University cutting tuition by ten percent while other schools such as USC offered their students living at home grants for those choosing to study. From home, interestingly, enough some students will be in residence halls at the campus, but their courses will be online but the majority of schools from state schools like Temple University and the University of Massachusetts System to elite private schools like Harvard and Stanford are keeping tuition as is are you surprised that we haven't seen more offering even a small tuition reduction I think universities have handled this about as well as they could possibly have handled universities have to balance their budgets. Terry Harto. An advocate for higher education says ever, since Kobe nineteen universities have lost millions every institution of higher education, the country has suffered losses room and board. The international students the hotel, the bookstore, all of those have just Disappeared experts also say higher education institutions are better equipped for online learning. Then K. through twelve schools, which could help drive down tuition costs. It has time to lower costs and move education back to what it used to be, but millions of college students like `Szralia still feel deprived of campus life and depleted in their bank account I don't think the financial wellbeing of a billion dollar institutions should be compared to the students who are severely struggling. College sports or another matter entirely many school still have unanswered questions about the upcoming college football season performance arts have been affected New York City's Broadway theaters have been closed since March and won't reopen again in twenty twenty and what about symphony orchestras? It's not just the challenge of keeping distance between audience members. Always idea has been musicians city close to together so that the maximum amount of contact the same for the audience to have this intimate feeling. As Performing Arts Attempt, to safely return to concert venues around the world much of the focus has been on distancing the audience. But for an orchestra distancing regulations can mean fewer musicians are allowed to take to the stage sometimes in different layouts and often performing too far less people. When we add the distance between the players, of course, things change. We all need this dossier sin seen. Four Paul some supplement allusion knee-deep According to the CDC covid nineteen. To be respiratory virus that mainly spreads when an infected person coughs sneezes or even talks. One study found that playing wind instruments might not spread as much of the persons breath singing would. But in an enclosed space like concert hall, some preventative measures like. Windows aren't possible on the players can't wear masks while performing. So risk of transmission still exists. For now in Paris musicians playing wind instruments are being kept two meters apart, which puts them further apart than string players, but it's not just musicians affected. Audience numbers are half what they normally be with spectators deliberately kept apart. Live streaming has kept some musical groups connected with their audiences during lockdown and even offers performances to those who can't get tickets. But. It does not compare to the experience of a live concert. and Deer Creek Reservoir in north. Utah is a popular spot for lakeside recreation, but it was during that kind of recreation that a woman recently lost her wedding ring which her husband had designed using her grandmother's diamond. She offered one hundred bucks for anyone who look and the Wasatch county search and rescue teams spent days and dives trying to help eventually they did it. They found the diamond in the reservoir, but they refused the reward. A story with great ring to it it's come full circle. We're glad they were able to cut to the Chase Carey to the surface with the clarity of mission that brings some great color to CNN ten a cordless. Zeus. And this show goes out to grand island senior high school in Grand Island Nebraska.

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Episode #31: A Wifes Story: My Husband Suffered From PTSD w/ Jeanine Underwood

Beyond Picket Fences

1:01:32 hr | 9 months ago

Episode #31: A Wifes Story: My Husband Suffered From PTSD w/ Jeanine Underwood

"Hey it's good to have you here come on in the welcome to the beyond picket fences. Podcast we are your hosts mandy. Panicky and naomi marquez. Janine underwood is a daughter. Sister aunt mother and wife the wife of a police officer. Janine is a committed philanthropist focusing on helping people and helping to bring awareness to alcoholism addiction and p. t. s. d. Janine believes there is much work to be done to help our servicemen and women and our police officers with mental health as they are exposed to the worst situations our society has to offer and experience. Serious trauma please welcome. Janine i neo me mandy. How do today i'm good. I'm good today. we have a janine underwood with us. Hi janine how're you doing today. I'm doing fantastic. How are you guys pretty. Good really good you. Where are you recording at today. Janine why in my bathroom else requires podcasting. So unique everybody. Besides the himselves trouble here spend quite a bit of time on the commode report good news. We're excited where would you like to begin so I wanted to come and do this. Podcast to kind of make people aware of what. It's like to be married to a police officer to be the family of a police officer and some of what the police officers distresses they go through. We go through his family and Really harms soul to hear people say to you know. Get rid of the cops. All cops are defined the police. Because i don't believe that. I believe there are bad cops. I believe they're bad people in every field. And so i just want people to be able to take a second think about what. It's like to be a competent. Just as they go through in maybe it'll be a better understanding of why things end up where they do great. Let's hear a story. So i met my husband. Nineteen ninety-five and He was already a police officer at the time he had. He had started in service when he was a teenager. In the rep whoriskey patrol which they traffic and accidents. When planes crashed they go out and pick up all the body parts because have to make sure they know how many people were on the plane. so the coroner has reassembled he started teenager. Yes pick in rapid Rescues teenagers that are advised by older. You know as thread the graduate Visor and so they you know. They start after world in serving but seeing her things. I'd have to ask kind of mental help or or do they talk about the trauma that comes with that when they put teenagers in that situation To the best of my knowledge there's nothing most service industries after. There's a major incident. They do debriefing. They call it but really they just sit in a room and the big guy tells them what was down which they already know because they were there right but no there's no No counseling no not even encouraged. And even when that's young teenagers. When they're introducing him to enforce -ment so my real quick. My book to my kids were in the program with the police department and they never had any kind of trauma events that they were associated with but they did do vehicle ride alongs and those kind things as an thinking back as a parent. I never once that. Oh my gosh what they saw something traumatic. And how is that going to be addressed. And now that you're telling your story. I'm realizing that as parents when we put our children in positions where they may have an opportunity to see something at that level. We need to be aware that we need to step in to help. Because you're saying they're not correct and not you know i believe that all these traumas that they see they're doing the right thing by helping but it's still a trauma on your brain in. It's still in your head. It doesn't go away. It gets better so he came out of the rescue patrol. I think at the research and rescues you guys from here. But people that are from colorado will remember allie barilla's. She was a six year old little girl that got taken for her apartment in you. Were out looking for her well. Unfortunately my husband is best friend in the search and rescue patrol or the ones that found her dead buddy i how old were they High school. so that's where all the dogs came into play about because a dog picked up percent in the founder deer creek canyon because of the dog findings sent. That's dogs released. Started coming into play with police officers searching for people so his first traumatic was finding a six old girl Correct because i was picking body parts of a plane crash out novikov second was finding a six year. Old girls funny So after high school he went into the army was over germany cetera but he must set to panama for operation. Just cause which was. The noriega played And he was an mp. They were somewhere that there's supposed to just be holding this area. But some of the resistance snuck up and shot at them and killed his best friend standing next to him so he added decided what three seconds if he was gonna let him shoot him refused to return fire so he returned fire in killed both that trauma stained with him through his whole life that he had to choose to take. Somebody's life you'd think the army that they're trained to do but he still have a conscience still have their soul that they have to deal with you. Can you can give all the training you want. But until it's right in front of your face there he can't train for that. And just as a spoiler alert that is the only time in my husband's entire career that he fired his weapon. Said battling noriega about doing so. Anyway he gets out of the army he comes back the bass how long he was in the army five years. Okay he comes out. He becomes a police officer. Goes the police academy So the the thing you should know about my husband was the he was the rule follower. If you have your dress for your dress clothes on every thing that shining should shine choose should be nothing out of and that is how he did his life. Everything was in place made. He was so armee but anyway he's a real voller so he's what the sheridan police departments we meet. I actually knew him before. I ever thought about dating him. I don't know where i once but as a little late to the party my whole family doing so he asked me out. i went. Whoa idea we were. We read gauged in six weeks buried in six months. Wow wow our wedding reception was the party of the century and just want you to know tell us about it tells you read heights and then we had our reception at the vfw. And so you know drinking. There's cheap dollar. I think we went to three and a half cakes beer. Three cases she had paid there was bar and remers the hundred sixty people at my weight reception. It was front pictures. Good never really good man. We got palace hotel in doorman said. Let me take your picture. I'm five three. My husband was six four so we get the film back. Fill anti ticket picture. He cut off my husband's head living framing. I did i thought may dress or what. But he missed his head totally then twenty. That's so we get married. He's the sheridan being a police officer and he started dispatcher. And you know he was just all in there were sheridan's not a very big place. I think it's three and a half square miles in between lakewood at with there's some really bad people in that area just gonna share like you know bad gangs sons of silence or sons of sam's or whatever they're called and first thing i really had to deal with his wife was that he was going after this really bad person that he is a area nation guy doesn't they cop should live in so that was my first stressor real headed you know. Did you know before you married him that he had had the trauma from as a teenager with the plane crash. Okay so you guys had talked about the plane crash. You talked about Elliott talk about his time in europe and his best friend is friends of my family. He actually dated one of my nieces. 'cause my niece observes old as i am and so we. All of our friends were cobb. Type people dispatchers. Emt's in so we talked about the stuff a lot you know just among the group. That's good that's so so your first. Is this area nation. Well it all went down and he came home so there was good. That's what started my stress of every time. He left his uniform. Wow i wonder if that's less time while ever seen him because there's always people that would kill cops. I know that our longtime he wouldn't dress and home he would drive to the station address because some of these gangs would shoot add disarming their regular car because they were in their cup uniform and they didn't have their radios and all that so that he got better about that of need interjected re all called my husband. Ss super-safe he was always amounts safety. I i mean hundred percent. Even my daughter at two would say safety. Never takes a baked so safer address at this station. That's what he would do. So then i get pregnant with our daughter and he gets hired on kim so he goes out. There is a row. Cobb got promoted to investigator and he actually was awarded the eighteenth judicial district investigator of the year and the eighteenth judicial district rabble county. Douglas county elbert county and we can county so. This is a pretty hard. He investigated crimes against kids in overcome. Elva county east of kiowa. They think they it's family business. Whatever they do so he got in there if all of a plate state had and so he actually charged seventy eight different people with abusing their children. Wow wow over what span of time five years. Probably that is way to at and that will not overlook repopulated Or is it no. It's twenty five thousand square miles in the time. The twenty thousand residents no. It's not home while but again had a different mentality in parts of the county in the city. So you know. He was hell bent on on charging people because it just made him angry that they did that. One time became more and he said well. I almost ended up jailed today. I go oh that's not good. Why was that. So one guy out. There was using cattle. Prod on sons testicles were misbehaved. He said every ounce i had not to use on his. I would've been up jail. Oh my angry about that. How did he do with that anger. Thinking of all trauma. That's okay because it keeps piling like thinking as a teenager is piling and then he had seventy eight cases of child abuse. I i would. I would literally need massive therapy just having one right and you know you go into homes. You don't know what you can fight and in colorado. I can't speak any other state. I can only speak about colorado but in colorado a police officer cannot remove a child who only social services so he would end up when he finds stuff he didn't up hanging out at the house waiting for somebody from social services to show the determine if they had to remove the kids or not so he could sit two hours with these people and he did want to leave because he was afraid they do something to the kids for causing them trouble rightwinger take their abuse but only social services can tell you to remove a child than the police removed them but only social services can say they could be which is actually a good thing You know i think about is you. Don't mind on a positive for covid. And how officers may not be going in people's homes. They may not be staying for those two hours. They may not be seeing the things they need to see who because kids don't have a voice we all know that their parents are always when their parents are not upstanding parents they have no voice unless somebody notice So anyway he did all that stuff. He was promoted to undersheriff and so when he was promoted that their share sheriff we moved out tilburg kelly because he had to live at the county and we moved into the town of elbert last two years but anyway so we lived in the county and it made easier for him. It made a two hour drive every morning and every night for me take our daughter daycare and parker gets my job. And i twenty five yale and then back coleman if it snowed it could be so you know. I was up at four o'clock in the morning. I was on the road by six thirty the latest. It didn't get home till seven and it was very stressful for me. First of all my daughter sleep the car when we were driving our to our house and so then she didn't wanna go to bed house a lot of because she had a great nap. How do you keep him awake at drive. May we're out now we're county and Felt a little safe. We had a rottweiler. That was so protective. Being grace that i felt a little better but it was dark. There's not lights out there. I was by myself a lot because he was working. And you know they only have so many officers out there because there's not many people so could end of organ twelve or thirteen hours a day if they needed. Backup or whatever because you have to. His job is under was to keep his people safe working for self. Save so you know one day. I'm in the safeway. Out and elizabeth and and somebody comes up behind me and whispers in my ear. Tell your husband back off. Or what farewell for you and your daughter out and turn all you could see is black Going away so. I called him in the whole service. Department showed up while he's gone so it turns out there was a mexican mafia issue out there that he was leading a team investigating. And my husband was not forgivable he was very tall. Rod shouldered very commanding voice. Nobody ever forgot him. So let me interject. If we wanted to go out to dinner he would have to go into any place. We would go to dinner if you eat where you serve to make sure there was anybody. He had arrested in there because they would make our dinner a living hell if they were there so if there was somebody he recognized as resting. We'd have le- go somewhere else. This is the chances are pretty good. Well even shared. We went to a restaurant in england. One time in this guy was staring. I go by that guy staring at us. You can turn around and goes oh. I arrested him. We had to get up and leave our food go because he didn't want him in some to his family into taking but he didn't want us to get hurt or something. The other thing is whenever we went into a store or anything he would tell us okay. Here's the plan if something goes wrong year. Here's where you are going to do with grace. You go here love a. He always had an escape. Plan was after the chucky cheese shooting. You remember that. Oh yeah oh yeah. So he every time we went somewhere he entered plan for what we would do in gray siemens said something about it the other day. We don't have our escape plans anymore. So even as a little girl was always had paid attention so we did a deep very much or we drive all the way to denver. And certainly we're out now. They say that to me. So the sheriff you know gets a special class for all the spouses of the department for the at our aid to do a concealed carry class and so we all did that. We got our certifications. Got a gun. So i carried concealed for three years because i was driving on those dark country roads with grace by myself i was out rebounded just the two of us. I didn't know who would show up. Where when so i. Carry concealed had Heads to the guns. I'd like to report a one time right. That soviet The sheriff's department. So i don't know if they were a was he gonna find out how scary to know that there's somebody out there that wants to hurt. Want to kill you or hurt you. You know that it's really scary. You just you just thinking about it like like you said going out to eat or the store you just never know his around you see. You can't enjoy anything and you're living in fear. Sure you have a gun on you but that doesn't take fear away so all of this. I got these bald spots in my hair like big bolts butts so we go the doctor. It's hope alopicia. Then it's from stress. You lose your hair. So i had to get shots in my scalp. Some reason. it didn't register me. That was going to hurt. I'd let me tell you did to make the hair grow. And then i went to a therapist and they put these electrodes on me. You fill out a survey about your life married to and they put these electrodes on me and they just started talking about stuff and then they take registers and they go over it than talk to you about it. So what turns out is. That migrate. Stress and fear was that i did know of. He was gonna come home alive. Fight ever seen again. What was so. We got a police scanner. He put in the car. So i could hear all transmissions and i had one at the house says since i reached the over kelly line i could get all there and i could hear him on the radio and i would know that he's okay and so then. I turned into a scanner junkie. Listening all the time when go places because i wanted to hear what they were doing. Good i just. It was a very much a stress for me. I love that he was passionate about what he's doing. Good at it. He was a great cop addressable. Because i just know there's people out there. They want him god. These are pretty target so he always worst vest. So anyway i get that under control and then i turned it back to counseling and i move past always having to listen but it did help me to hear. His voice on the radio is fine because he had a voice radio or you could mistake his with anybody had what he started therapy at the same time. You started therapy no so now i just took. The i miss saying was would columbite have lived in england. It was a very long after we were married. We had a day off. We were there at our house with a couple of friends and he got the page for any officer in the whole metro area. Not on duty to go to college. My he was there was a school shooting. Humans changed out the door. Net combine in twenty minutes. And then. I sat there watching on tv. But when you look at that footage the cop. That is catching patrick island. Coming out of the library window is woody was also one of the jobs. That was the human shield for all the kids behind. You get into their buses to before they knew who the shooters were etcetera. They don't always know right away. You're watching the you have to see this as his wife and his Was grace born yet. she was. Yeah and so. I did save for three days. He was gone in just that school shooting day called in counseling for the kids. The teachers the parents the community. Not for the cops. They got a two hour. Debriefing on what went on in that was signed. Forget tomato be fucking kidding me. No so you know we're on our county and he started drinking now. I married him because he didn't drink. I have a lot of alcoholics of my life. And i did want to be married to this. It's now it's started drinking. I see more and more and more and more on the weekends. It off just getting hammered. So then their fight start. Because i might know he's just going on and on all these demons at his head i. Can you get counselling you need to get help. You can't deal of all this on your own needs o'kane find. Finally he tells me it's not okay because as a police officer. If you have anything in your record about mental health they can take your badge and your gun and you'll never be a cop again so there was nothing in our life. Stead suggested they should have help with their mental issues from what they're the trauma. David endured the things that they see. And i said well you can still get therapy. That's not getting on drugs. You know drugs or whatever. He just wouldn't do it because he said. I have to be a cop or anything so i i have to tell you. There was a couple years of hell that we lived through with the fighting about the drinking the just the whole life situation of i pretty much had to do everything because he was either working or drunk and arina was it was the worst department must have known. They had to have seen the signs that he wasn't capable of handling that and he was drinking more. I mean there's obvious signs so they tried to address it at all. No so. I don't know if you spend much time around alcoholics but when somebody drinks excessively continually you have this odor about him like the alcohol comes out through their pores certain. I started smelling now. And i happen to have a sister. That is now colleagues. So i'm like. Oh i know that's new you know so. We actually separated got divorced in two and six. We were apart for about fourteen months and then we got back together. He started going to a and you know as great thing. By the way i started going to alanon. I even had grayson. Allen had seven years old. Take her there he does well. They might say bad words. She does grace looks it goes. Have you met my dad argo. Bad words she is analogy was nello hughes a got back together. We did get remarried. Hi there. We wanted to take a moment of your time to invite you to join our facebook community by searching beyond picket fences and clicking on our page instagram at bp fences twitter at bp fences or as always on our website at bp fences dot com sign up on our website to receive occasional emails and updates. We also invite you to support beyond picket fences on our mission by subscribing to our patriotic page at patron dot com slash beyond picket fences. slash join. Thanks for your support now back to the episode so we were together for twenty four years with fourteen months off for bad behavior. I guess we call it although he did probably everyday of those for months. I i'm glad to answer this call. Yeah and so one day. I did hear from him and we had agreed he'd have great our daughter three days. I'd ever three days when we lived really close to each other. Networks max. Yeah you know. I was worried because i'm like what if he's drunk her. You know first of all. It's so sad because kids have alcoholics. Who just so resilient smarter than you think in these see more than you know and they know what to do so anyway One day. I didn't hear from him for like twenty four hours and i said why haven't for dench us. Well let's go see if he's okay right. She was like seven probably and we go over there. walk in. I see all over the carpet going on so found him and he was numb from the chest down and he couldn't couldn't get to fall on he was trying to pull himself. Cross carpeted torp arms. he's bleeding all over so we get into the hospital and he gleaned for discordance neck and he has the problem that the columnists spinal cord is in. The column is too small. I can't remember what it's called my cervical up and so when those disrepair funding they were actually pounding on his spinal cord and damaging it so he had urinated in twenty four hours so they get him in the er getting hooked up. Start all of this to to to release the bladder. Spin the law. You kids just let it go you have to do. He says you get a neurosurgeon in there. And they do emergency spicer because his life threatening. You can't urinate so comes through. But he never could feel the left side of his body from his chest down after that the damage on the spinal cord was too much to the he couldn't couldn't he started out with a walker. Cain and so he couldn't be company more because he couldn't do. That's not good. What you story. That was his calling with being cop takes cup out of him so then got worse the darkness of demons. The i mean it was it was progression but you know it got worse worse worse and finally ended up so they used his back now. Know that's not a good thing. Because it weakens the vertebrae above and below so he ended up in a wheelchair because his spine was just crumbling from all of that and drinking excessively. Doesn't help when you have health issues. So they were ex us back again. They found he had a heart. Murmur is arctic. Valve was deformed from birth. So they had Official valve in there so that he couldn't get the back surgery that's supposed to drink his blood thinners he would continue to drink drink drink and i mean his blood. Alcohol content at one point was tweet for eight nine. Why dr how is he alive. And he's when drink continually you you build a tolerance in your body and so he still has alert speech in his for a nine. Well wow l. in because he's on blood thinners. Drinking so much blood was oozing. His body is lakes purple for mobile blood again so then i finally had to hit him out again because he was affecting my daughter and when she's at the ball and in the fetal position because he would get so angry. So mean into the yell at beans. I mean everything. I did from the day. I met him. That was wrong. You tell me about it in just break Some awful it was horrible three years of our lives. Let me tell you. And when was that when what year was that what well i just when you when you one thousand nine hundred twenty sixteen is when i finally told him. He had to go k years so it was ten years. 'cause two thousand six new was built over years. It's worse worse worse and worse and you know my daughter's like that won't be there. He'd never is you know because he would rather stay home in the do whatever still wouldn't help. He went for help a couple of times. When i really believe at that point it was so bad and so hard that he didn't even know where to start so he would just stop going. Therapy is now. He's not a cop so he doesn't have that reasons not go correct So he did so. We started doing therapy after he left the department. Yes and he went to four different thirty day rehabs and you know just doing everything right but he never let their biscuit down to the to the bottom of what was it his head of all the stuff you know what would always come out as for getting killed in panama on him. Killing those people in survivor's guilt is what it is. Who you know the whole time grace. They're gonna alanon. Which is such an awesome thing for people to deal with alcoholics. Everybody should go allah teed so great for kids. Your great groups is anonymous. You know if you see somebody you know in there you act like you've never seen him before us just how it is but they really helped me. I got there be grace cup therapy. He would go and then he'd come home and say aw that they're stupid into start drinking yet. So finally i totally you know you have to go to a year long program before you can come and live here again. And he was so drunk day before. I'm i'm walking around packing a bag for me grace at our dogs. he's so drunk and ranting and raving. You don't even notice. I'm packing bags for us to leave him so I just waited till he passed out to the banks dogs with grace how school we would be sisters. His twin sister and my sister sat on me. So i couldn't answer his calls respond to help him. Because everybody knows my name is helping us such a great man who such a great person and all this damaged in nobody along the way ever thought that we give help to people that are experiencing the armpit of our world top stove childhood. It's great thing. Fire departments to. You know cops are always the ones that have to deal with the bat and you know he was my weakness admitted and my daughter was losing faith in us mom because i was making her stay in that situation we'd had conversations is it's it's going to happen. I don't know when so that dad school. I said remember. I told you what happened to today's the day she was wide today. I said i don't know but today's the twin sister and my older sister and there were so supportive of me helped me not event him again so this always makes me think about people that don't have a support system. My guy have mine. The youngest kids my siblings here. My nieces and nephews result as i You know they go from my age down to great grandkids. We have newborn. So i have a huge support system and all of my siblings and i get along. My one sister drank herself to death at the age of fifty four and her husband. Telly died three months later. He couldn't deal with so they left side. Who was engaged to be married. And who is my son's best friend. I realized that he spent a lot of time with me. Because i'm saving from his alcoholic appearances whole life so to my nephew and his wife and their kids tonight play grandma and they're included all my family stuff. We have a great family. No question but my husband still by weakness and i would just quietly go to care of him saw my and his sister like no. You can't do this. You have to stop so they said i mean they took my phone by car keys felt like a teenager but re days later i was much stronger and i stuck to what i needed to do because a really have to put my daughter before i think that she's going to be a fine person and that she got all lot of counseling and therapy and she wanted to switch schools. She did all the research picked school and of course. She's a child of an alcoholic which lets unnecessary stress on themselves to be perfect. Because they all think you're perfect. Pair will jake. She's almost twenty years old and she's finally realized it was never about her. You know but it's it's such a dynamic in your family that it's hard to separate yourself. It's hard to differentiate in up makes me think about people would out support. That i have is why people stay bad situations because they don't know how to get out absolutely. We've talked about that on several podcasts. You guys know me. I'm a strong woman. Yeah yeah for sure. I mean you know anything except my husband. I i'm not gonna apologize for either because it was a horrible time for him to so we're still married but we didn't live together us in home and he died. Last may complications of alcoholism. So oliver just stopped taking his medications stopped eating and died very sad to somebody who was so service oriented so committed to taking care of his country is county is city. Whatever and such a rule follower in all of this drinking and all of the stuff he never once got behind the wheel with. That's even when he was so blessed. You do not drink drive new so hit me with questions. Yeah i do. I have to tell you that was it was an emotional right for me listening to that story and it it takes a really really strong spouse to figure out how to love yourself of your daughter and love your husband while you're going through all that and it's a shame that the mental health to him and i want to focus on that part so you talked about in the beginning of the podcast that you're concerned about the word defunding police and everybody has their own idea of what that means and i believe that funding mental health for police departments is key. They have hampson has to be required has to be required and fire departments the same. You know we had a podcast service yards. All offers responders absent on military right and so talk about. What your as a wife. What would you have wanted to see. And what would have made you feel as if he was beast being supported mentally through his career. So i would've liked to see that all especially the police because they really do see the worst of the worst that they just have therapy every week or every two weeks all the time. Not ready for a disaster. A lot of bad things every day. They have things in their past that have built up so continual therapy true therapy where they don't feel like they're alone or they're gonna lose their job because they got therapy a is written code of. You can't be have any mental issues. Well having mental issues versus traumatic things. That have demons in your head are two different stories. Somebody has mental issues go crazy. It just opened fire. Whatever absolutely should not be police officers people that have damaged their heads with all these demons because they've served different and there should not be a stigma replaced on officers to not get them into help that they need from day one. I think it should be part of the police academy you have said there. You have to learn how to tackle the stuff how to deal with the stuff you know i. I've been to seven or eight cup funerals from they drank themselves to death because that's their only out Lot of the cops ballistic at the end because they don't know what to do. You know your wives left him. I'm probably one of the only wives stuck around. Because they mostly. I mean it's like a seventy five percent divorce rate reasons but right it's not set up for success there. They're not set up for relationship. Success long-term within their creates the environment where they just keep stacking on trauma trauma after trauma. Whether it's at work whether it's at home right and it's all ptsd And that's the thing people talk about a lot in our country. Nobody really does a lot to fix it. And there's never money are people coming back from oems any kind of war that fighting They need help. They need therapy. They need be able to talk to people so that they could work through the stuff. They have different therapies now. I've seen where they're using warm water to help do their beezer. Ptsd i mean come on. It's twenty twenty. We know a lot of things. And but we have a lot of servicemen. It costs so. I think that we should when hunger semester. No longer serving. I don't feel like they should get by the country. Tell me die. That money should not take care of our servicemen and our first responders mental health. That's where i was thinking about. You know one of my biggest platforms. That i stand on his holding our elected officials accountable for the laws that they pass the things that initiatives that they go for. It's not just talk. They actually have to pass laws to to make that happen. We do something right and i. It's it's one of those things as citizens. What do we want to support in what he want to get behind. And the mental health of our first responders is something that i am really really passionate about and will figure out a way to help my local community and understanding what that means and i think we all should right because there's reasons why unnecessary shootings happening happened with playoffs. Right because of ptsd now. We also know that there's racism and all this kind of stuff that goes along with it but will help part of it and the exhaustion is a piece in making this. I know when i'm tired. I can't make a good decision. When i think about the proactive mental therapy. I had do before this podcast. Because i was afraid of being judged and shamed ided for four months every two weeks just to be able to be on a podcast. I couldn't imagine ray in your. After i had set found seventy eight children who were being abused by their parents was at columbine after kids. Were murdered by as a teenager. Finding a dead six year old body and bodies after a plane crash and killing of my the murder of my best friends standing next to me right. It's a lot it's a lot and if all of that is is constantly in your head and you don't know how to deal with it or to put it behind you when you're in a situation aware you know maybe you know it's it's it's a situation that escalates and and you know you can snap or you can de-escalate and your whole life is spent fear and worry and it's just miserable. I can imagine there's not much to want to live for. I mean what what. What positive in life kenny you know. How can you live a positive life when all of that is into is in your head so i can see where you're just like i don't i don't care like in so you act because it doesn't matter if my husband never ready that affect his ability at job like he was in all that but he never fired his service web he never beat anybody with the club in elbert county is an l shape it in the l. Part of it. You know back then. The radios work cell phones didn't work pagers because it was page. Take but sons. A silent sons assam's all these people live there because they know they're out in the sticks. Things don't work cops drive by start shooting at him because they don't like cups they get a call down there. They have to wait for a tribe to go down there. Because you don't know what will happen in radio for backup. That kind of stuff is stressful. Just for the just to drive. There is stressful. And you know my husband loves kids. He wanted to make things better for kids. We did And we probably shouldn't have done this on top of all the rest but he wanted to do it. We spent five years. We went to the marvin foot center in. We bible study and mentoring to the teenagers. That are locked up Trying to teach them ways to make different choices than their parents need know. Walk it and screw goes. I introduce myself she goes hi. I'm saw it so my mom's a horrid. My dad's pin. you know. I mean this is what these are kids that are truly living right now and locked up so we went there and we did every you know just to try to teach them to make different choices. They don't have to do with their parents did arranging when they got out raging for rights for them to go to churches to go to. I spent four years with jake school district getting them to let us put pamphlets in there. all of their schools have these racks in the front sports blah to let me put pamphlets in alabama on a n. A. seeing so the kids would know that there's help for them talking to teenagers in high schools so they would understand that if the you know. I've saved through trauma. There's help to them and you know we would arrange rights for kids. I mean there's so much work to be done. I finally had to say not all of it because it was really getting me right. Unfortunately because things rebelled at work it's hard because the the starting point were. You're trying to work the you're trying to. You're trying to help other people when you had your own stuff you're doing your own world that wasn't going in the direction you wanted to go right so it's hard to help everybody else when you're just trying to figure out how to keep your strong. When my husband was sober he would say we have to get to these kids before it gets this band you know can recognize that he was so damaged. Who's like we have to do something to get to the kids before they get this bad and i agree with him that if you could start there you could maybe bring up more people that don't follow the same galley. Yeah and i just don't even imagine how many kids are out there wandering on their own whether they live in a home with their parents. Not they're alone. They don't know what to do where to go and it doesn't even matter what race you are. I mean you know a lot of what he dealt with was white almost all of overwight. Outnumbered county were abusing. Their kids race has nothing to do with abusive behaviors and people that they have the power to overpower. Other people do what they want. And that's what some of these tops do you see on tv and it gets to that point one cup. I did one. We'll know another thing i wanted to bring up was sheriffs are elected when you work as a sheriff's departments colorado. You work the will of the sheriff so he goes. I don't need any more. You're out throughout. My husband has inner sheriff used to ride with everyone of his people. Want to quarter just to make sure they were overreacting trigger happy that they're following processes and procedures. And you know. He was total role far. You want everybody to do it by the book. Did not do bad things to people and So the sheriff is elected in. He appoints the under sheriff for whatever but police departments the police. The chief of police is important. And i think that needs to change because in these were cops. Don't behave like they should. And they hard people that they should that has come from the top that it's okay in my opinion and so a place chief is appointed in his friends was so unsold he stays in there the department goes downhill because they all get that attitude. So are they the the police chief should be elected or the two year term dislike share. Because they're making notes. You never had anybody say that. I've never heard of that. So that's thank. You might not do anybody. That is a certified peace officer which is a cop. Sheriff's deputy whatever they are all governed by dr cog which does their posts certification and holds their certifications. And if somebody Files a complaint. With dr cog about an officer they can be investigated. And dr cog can pull their certification not want to be a cop. Most people don't know that dr cog is part of the secretary of state i believe. What's the division monitors insurance and all that bring you know. So anytime dr august who watches organizations arrest or is that a it's the denver regional council on government. Okay and they do a lot of stuff but people don't know that english elio this because my husband taught me had that is who holds post certifications and when he was no longer cup he got the letter from knin said that he is no longer eligible as he was not post certified so there are so many things that could do but it is overwhelming. I have to tell you when you're in the in the weeds and you see what's really going on. It is very overwhelming and to not have any kind of counseling. Even just somebody to talk to show is the other day i want to say they. They can send a cop for a fitness of duty tests. And it's a mental test. And i don't know if this has changed since we've been out of this business of before it was one agency or one practice of psychiatrists that did all of the testing. And you know it's the test you wanna kill your mom you hate your family. You know felt like some of them we take for employment they ask you the same question for ways to see how you answers while they all know how to pass it. I mean it's dumb. When we separated got divorced the sheriff did send what he for fit for duty and he passed because they know how to answer the question. They're not dumb colorado. We know how to pass as ripe for marijuana. I mean if brakes. You're around a bunch of people who do it and they all know they talk. Everybody gives people the tips and tricks. Right yeah and so. I believe that another thing that would help is if they used random like if they had ten psychiatric groups that would do the pre-testing or the fit for duties. Is they all get a pre-test also And that it's like a a lottery because same person doing it. I don't who's pocket. He and i know that he passed fail based on who they were. Not what the test was you know. So i do believe that there could be a change in how they're tested and fit for duty tests. Maybe they need a fit for duty test every year but not the same test that they've already memorized at answer. Your has to be another way to assess their mental health. I'll tell you this is a great. This is a lot of great information. Just beyond the podcast. I want to sit down afterwards and talk about this because this is something i really really passionate about. You're giving me information. I've never thought out. So i would love after this is never recordings over. We'll get together and talk about it more absolutely. I'd love to know all this. This has been great angst any Really wasn't a lot of good information for everybody. And i just wanted everybody to know that i just as any group any field. They're not all bad. They're not all great summer great Ruining for others and people say oh. The protesters started their on our cities. Well ninety nine percent of those protesters had nothing to do with rolling city. they were just protesting. So you know you have in. You also have some of these people that are just bad and the egg the cops until they do something. Nobody sees that piece of it. Nobody understands where they've pushed into an anyway. It's gonna take a long time. But i think there's things that we could do to fix this in. The first thing is to pay attention to who you're voting for invoked people in that are actually gonna painted to do something In you are you two are on my same pages that selective histories of what they actually voted for. Not what they said. Absolutely absolutely daimler thing you guys. I appreciate the great therapy for me. Today was really really great story. Thanks we appreciate your authenticity. All right thanks. Ladies have a great day bye.

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07/20/2021 - Hour 3 - Aaron Rodgers Needs to Make a Decision + Former NFL Executive of the Year Randy Mueller

The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard & Rob Parker

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07/20/2021 - Hour 3 - Aaron Rodgers Needs to Make a Decision + Former NFL Executive of the Year Randy Mueller

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Y'all gonna be trashing my partner take it easy on after that. He has some wild trash at that. Beat new to earlier. We had to cut the callers earlier. Chris all i know is they know they know they will argo golub beards razz me. Respectful was a respectful beaten beaten. I'll get thirty to forty seconds to trash anyone. Anything kitchen takes ready ryan. I'm i'm doing. My voice is a little horse. I've been yelling all week. And everything but man full of facts in milwaukee are you white like. They're saying they got the deer. They call it the deer zone or deer deer creek or whatever they call the area in front of the five serve form. Where all the fans are men. They're saying they expected. Like sixty five thousand people. I say this. The new arena is beautiful. And i'm having linear you've been did. Did i tell you the story about one hour. Say about that. No no zillow's lives advisor gear rina's beautiful and we honest was going through his first. Mvp harden guy and they decided when i was doing the clippers broadcasts that they would have me switch onto the books broadcast. And why the bucks stadium. The fans started chanting in. They knew innate knew you were for harden. Yeah a was the most hated man in milwaukee. Oh so now it all makes sense now. We know why you so down. No i'm not a name. I couldn't be basketball. No no no. No i like john is. I'm just a straight shooter for a role player. I almost straight shooter thing. Middleton is like he's jordan-esque. I know you job it on now but but bottom line and they are out there wild man and you know look and then i know you know this from travelling obviously you audie arenas in the nba has a player milwaukee man their fans are legit. You know i used to. I haven't been to the new arena bradley center but they got some great fans and they even though they haven't won a championship in fifty years. They've been a good franchise you know. And so if they do go ahead and win. it's anything for phoenix. These these two deserve is so good for them. But speaking of wisconsin ryan. Let's stay there and switched sports to the nfl now. Air rogers obviously to superstar hall of fame future hall of fame quarterback for the green bay. Packers doesn't wanna be there anymore. He's ready to move on. We don't know this because he said it but you know reports anonymous sources. Obviously i was a reporter. So i know how it works but anonymous sources are saying that air rogers does not wanna play green bay anymore. And it's been going on for months and the latest report came out today. That air rogers was offered a year extension ryan by the green bay packers that have kept him in green bay an extra two years and that would have kept him there for the next five years and it would have made him the highest paid quarterback in the nfl. Now a lot of people have been saying they think this whole thing is about money but apparently is not about money because air rogers turned down the two year extension offer that would have made him the highest paid player in the league. Here's where i want to go with this ryan talk to me. And i'm i like your rogers. I you know i i like. He is an awesome quarterback. He's all the time great. Oh but he always only has one super bowl appearance let alone ring. One super bowl appearance fall is greatness and that was more that was ten years ago and this saga. I've always said as great as he is. He doesn't have all of the championship intangibles now. He's not bad with intangibles. But he's not elite in the intangibles and to be one of the like the ultra elite. The quarterbacks like i'll just put it in the goal conversation. Tom brady and joe montana. Because it's a conversation of to tom. Brady and joe. Montana got in the conversation with the intangibles. Yes obviously they have physical skills but they have the greatest physical skills but they have the intangibles. Obviously they're smart quarterbacks but they have the intangibles their leaders of men their decisive they could command a locker room full of men. This saga is telling me why air rogers only got one super bowl ring as great as he is because this is madness. Oh we haven't heard a peep from iraj other than giggles and chuckles would. He's on the golf course or when he's on vacation saying you know we'll see we'll see we'll see what happens you know we'll see mad. Take control of your freaking destiny. Ohio breath decisive. Come out and sell us. i want out. I don't wanna play there anymore. Or tell us i will be there in training camp. Yes we've as issues. I've been disappointed by some things. But i'm trying to win the super bowl. I'm coming back out with my teammates. I love the fans and we gonna win the super bowl this year or die trying. You got to say something all these whispers in anonymous sources and you're smiling and giggling. What do you do. Training camp starts this week. But that that's that's that's an intangible times to chew and times not to say anything and it's not because you don't know like lebron james. When he was a free agent in cleveland is last year. He didn't say anything because at the time you didn't know but when it came time to make a decision lebron james made a decision. I'm to miami. i'm going back to cleveland. I'm going to la. No games with magic johnson. Second year in the league didn't like what paul was doing who had led them to a championship. The first year magic haber me one of us is out here. And it'll be me if you got to be decisive. Play the game. I play on my dry. But when it's time to go i'm gonna table. You know how i blame. No chris who. I'm still looking at the green bay front office. They never gave air rogers. Outside of that super bowl year the pieces he needed to have success and when it came down to it this last season were air. Rogers app today drafted jordan. Love didn't do none but ball. Chris you know when he came to you know what it came down to. Tom brady got to pick his guys in aaron rodgers. Didn't tom brady. Gaza gets all the gronkowski's antonio brown's and deep vincent he and leonard foreign to pick. Let me educate you tom. Tom brady got the big guys. Tampa by seventy nine before brady got there. They missed it to the playoffs. Thirteen years and the galaxy pig gronkowski was retired litter for net. Got cut by. What were the worst team. It doesn't matter. Antonio brown was out there but he knew what they do what he knew what they can do. Holy one that knew what they do. Rogers had anybody else gonna win gobble. Aaron rodgers had a defensive coordinator. Wade cover one going into half time. Are you going to be chris. Let me give you an a hole. Latest house a game of inches to do it cover. What even. I know the way to give up the house. I understand that. Green bay didn't always provide rogers with the defense. He needed air. Rogers up air. Rogers is one and freak and four in nfc championship game. Let me throw this out kris okay. I'll listen one in four. Is the only player ever to lose four. Nfc championship games. Here's here's these numbers in those games. The gray air rogers passer rating eighty three point seven nine touchdowns now. This is a guy that does not throw interceptions in those five. Nfc title game ryan. He's got nine touchdowns and eight interceptions. That that i just the defense. That's not just your defensive coordinator having a brain freeze and go a cover. One chris guy getting outside of himself and make mistakes in the big moments that he doesn't make in the regular season. Let me let me help you out chris. because of green bay's inability to build around and rogers with a run game a cast game last year. He did anybody. And if i've seen at a castle sufficient players aaron rodgers was known for throwing his receivers open when you throw you receiver open. It means they're creating no separation same coming out employing straight up physical man because it's disrespectful. You had nobody to get open. So you'll blame aaron rodgers. Here's martha and let me. Let me tell you what you going to do with those numbers. I just gave you nine open. It has his thing. Here's a adams is getting open. He's the best receiver in the game. Hold on those with the fort. Lean russia last year and here people last year sites dating ball enough god who got the pick. His guys who took a seventy nine essay. I got through. He's seven to nine team. And said i will beat your thirteen. And guess what you know what they're seven to nine thousand seven and nine. Did bruce arians came out. And said i took over the town tonio brown. He'll never play in a bugs jersey. Tom brady said how that's right. That's your proven my point. So let any business i said. Let me finish chris. As as a man not as analyst as an athlete as a man we only ask respect. And when tom brady was in new england says you. you're this. Tom brady guy all of sudden when tom brady was in new. England in jimmy garoppolo was kind of look alike sudden. Tom brady office essay. Yeah how talking about ryan hold on. Let me finish and win and win. A-rod stormed into office is say kids outta here. They said he's our future our future they thought george love was what aaron rodgers was far beneath. Problem air roger didn't do that. That's the problem. How you you read my point. You proven my point. That's what i'm saying. Brady did say get him out air. Roger didn't do that. You know what tom brady would have said to matter. Floor or fourth down. That leflore number job feels new england. No never would have got. John would have minutes left. You know what he would have said before when he says. Let's send in the field goal unit said. No we're going forward be decides. Aaron rodgers had the platitudes. He had the clough resume to say the floor. No matt no at the very time outlets discuss chris. Sometimes we've been jobs in which we gotta let our bosses or the in charge hanging themselves. He had matt. Hey he came on. The roy said hang yourself into phil go unit on in the process. He hung in his own self too. Because look at if that were the case. This shame on air rogers because you should be thinking about yourself and the other sixty dues in that locker room as we got to win the super bowl. He just wants to go man. Y'all don't believe in me. Y'all wanna do this way. Y'all want and this is what discipline comedy. That's all i'm saying area. This shows me come out and say it's what is what all the gates for you've got about four or five days before trying to cancel arden and you play a game. Come out and say. They could've traded him at the draft. I know he said it. Gotta be gotta be born yesterday. No he said at the drive. Like y'all chubby i got. Here's a teams at work. They all called in greenbrier drew Be playing jeopardy before you play for somebody else. What come on man as amateur grow up man man man. This was a slaughtering. you know. i'm right. I'm right anyway. There's at least one big drawback to name image and lightness coming to college sports. Or is there maybe it is. We'll see we'll get into that. Next chris bruce hart and the humboldt ryan holland's on the odd couple of fox sports radio be sure to catch live editions of the odd couple with chris broussard. Then rob parker weekdays at seven. Pm eastern four pm pacific on fox sports radio and the iheartradio app. Hey i'm doug gottlieb. 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And we're gonna stick with football to some degree the you know the name. Image likeness quickly. What's your take on that in the college sports now i love it. I think there are going to be some questions behind it. You know per se. Let's say if i may. ucla athlete. And i want to a a weed sponsorship in my free to do what i want right. 'cause do i has is legal in california. Do i have to represent the university and in certain way or fashion or out. Let's say i'm an adult site website but it's a lot of money they're like. Hey we want you to be the guy you know girl i would imagine. I don't know i would imagine things like that. You can't you wouldn't do but why not see what those pro athletes. Don't do that stuff in our question. Also not yet. I mean paul period you know was he. He got fired. But you see what i'm saying like. I just think that in those situations common sense will prevail that you know 'cause like i said they would be free to do them in the pro. That's what i'm figuring out. What what is it going to be or you know. Let's say i'm paying let's say. Ucla is paying johnny zang. Does the ucla get five percent of the deal because he is going to be wearing. That's or does he have just a you know like the basic blue jersey. And you assume it's ucla but you don't see the writing you know so. I'm intrigued to see how it's going to play out. In in chris i was speaking to former bruin. Lisa willis and in la sparks. She threw out a good concept. She said ryan you understand that. Somebody's women's this may change the women's game forever because the players are going to be making more coaches now in college and let's say a player bring money what i mean. We'll let me throw this out. Let's say women are going to be clocking like that tennessee. Who knows but let's say or let's say a player you know makes a good amount of money. I'm sure let's say this. Let's say a player brings more money to the university but the players not that good so you got a lot of these kids that are like like they got a million to me and followers in high school. They come those that guy to get more tick now. Is it going to be a troop because people don't in the nba is a business. You think about age you think about stuff like that. So there's the kid with the instagram. Follow is going to become a nudge from the athletic director. Say make sure he gets on the floor. Couple times i look i. That's where i wanted to go. Because i agree with some of those. Some of those could be questions. And what i want to bring up. Is that nick sabin. Of course the great coach at alabama was talk into the texas high school coaches association today and he mentioned that is quarterback bryce young. It was a redshirt freshman last year. Everybody knows he's nice right. He's expected to be top. Players in the country. Might win the heisman next year. But anyway nick sabin said this ryan already. He's there. Bryce young quarterback has close to a seven figure deal. So he's less as got eight hundred fifty thousand dollar deal or something like what my question first of all good for him and the fact is look these kids. Obviously i mean if people willing to pay them that they're obviously worth it. And i say ryan if i have been in college as a an english major who was interested in journalism. If if someone was willing to pay me money for me to work for them then i would have been able to get it. Why can't the athlete. But the question i have for you is do you think you're you kinda already went there. How will this impact the players. I mean the fact that you're quarterbacks making so much money just any player will they listen less. Be less prone to listen to. The coach is can they eat up a little bit of the teamwork the camaraderie like what do you think you obviously play division one sports at a high level. I got another word. That i might make up is going to professionalize. They already been. But it'll professionalize them in the sense that these guys will know their value. You know what. When i play. Jj radic was the main guy you saw sportscenter every single day. He'll know like we'll coach k. You can't really bench me. You know what i'm saying. The right the respect of the athletes will have to be there where it wasn't before and now the questions will be you know. How do the coaches control that. Because if you're benching a guy is worth a certain amount of money you know going influence by upstairs. The athletic director. You know the money here to be made in money's going to change things and this is what these kids deserve and i'll be honest. I'll be honest. Chris the ncaa hid this for years. And it's still not where they should because the university still aren't paying kids getting off. There's an ability for them to pay. There's some weird wording in there but you know what it makes me mad about because now you're seeing like dangle. I was worth two million dollars worth a million. I was worth one hundred thou- like imagine from sleeping in the dorms you. You're going to be in a four or five bedroom house. Dog chris again. I say look whatever it takes away from what we've known as you know big time college sports it. Hey it is what it is. The kids deserve it and if it becomes like that then so be it. They're worth it because they are. I mean you're worth what people are willing to pay you. And they are worth that. You know what i mean in a business sense. So they're getting what they deserve because of their popularity celebrity and that takes away some of the you know dynamic between the players and the coaches. Hey so so it is a. I'll give you a good example. The dynamic between the head football coach or the head basketball coach and the president of the school. Is it what you would typically expect right because they have goes got out of power. You got auto power right so get that way. And that's why you might see some some of these stepping away from the college game. all right. We got randy mueller coming up. We can ask him about this even though he's a former. Nfl executive of the year. He can still talk some college. We'll get into that and much more with him right in a moment but first be sure to catch live editions of the odd couple with chris. Broussard and rob parker weekdays at seven. Pm eastern four pm pacific on fox sports radio and the iheartradio app. We got our next guest. He's a former. Nfl executive of the year now the ceo of mueller. Football dot com randy mueller. Friend of the show brandy welcome back. Thank chris good to be with you buddy. Hope you're doing well. Yes i am good to have you Let's before we go to the nfl and obviously we'll ask you some of this stuff about what's going on in green bay but less quickly name image likeness in college football. Nick sabin said today. that is quarterback. Bryce young. I'm sure you're familiar with is has nearly a seven figure deal already so i don't know what it is. Nine hundred thousand whatever it is. How do you think these athletes making this big money. And i i'm supportive of it ryan supportive of it but whether you supportive of it or not. How do you think that can change. The dynamic of the team between players between coaches and players and things like that even administrators and players. Yeah i think it definitely changes the playing field a little bit. And it's really with the intangible part of it. And i wrote for mueller football. A couple of weeks ago about the effect it would have on. Nfl teams in the way they viewed. How players in college handled it. But i think that one of the unintended circumstances will be how how it You know relates player to player locker to locker. I think i think there has to be some sharing of it. I see where a couple of these teams have done. Things as units and decided they're going to share throughout the roster. I think that's great I don't think there's going to be any animosity for a guy like this kid. Who's maybe got nine hundred thousand the bank. I just think it's gonna it's gonna get them into the pro game sooner. I guess and he's gonna have to deal with the things that he normally wouldn't have to deal with intel. He got to the nfl so I'd love to see them. Share this with teammates. I don't know if that will happen or not again. We don't know this is all fertile ground right. We're not sure is it. Just gonna turn out. And and then. Who's gonna police where this money's coming from. I think that's the big question i'll have is. Where is this money coming from. What is the player have to do to get it. And how is it. Money paid out so there's a lot of questions in my mind. Randi really appreciate your time. I i gotta ask you this question. Chris chris may be on the contrary but how grossly bad and poor did green bay handle the aaron rodgers situation. If you were over in green bay what would you have done different if you could turn back the hands of time. Well definitely been clunky. That's for sure. I think that's the best word. I heard the description done. It's it's been clunky addict. Started way before know this season. It sounds like that. I don't like to think that. Aaron rodgers doesn't have that thin skinned that he can't get over the jordan luck bec- two years prior. Let's flush that were. Just start over and and You know i think that that almost Disrespect that he's felt from. The front office is carried on. I think we saw any talk the night after they lost in the playoffs last year. You knew something was coming. I feared it at that time for the front office that there were to beat repercussions i think. He felt like He's never had a voice he's never had it say. And and that's you know the the way the world is right now. I think these guys have to have a voice. I would always have an open door would always meet and communicate with these guys just as much as the coach. Did i wanna make sure they know they're valued employers but i would say this green bay different right. There is no owner. They haven't had an owner. And sometimes it takes. A robert kraft or jerry jones kind of stepped in and showed the players how much value they have. They didn't have that in green bay. They don't have it there. Publicly owned entity like we all know so that the dynamics are different there But i do think going forward at some point. The packers have to do. What's right for them. In fact. I think they're at the point now where aaron can do what he wants but they have value in his contract going forward. I i keep reading and hearing a lot of it from the media that maybe the the life preserver is that we nixed the last couple of years of his contract and and agree to let him go after this year the packers. There's no way i'm doing that right it right to me. I'm gonna give up two or three first round picks to have him come play for one year. That bad business in my mind so it'll be interesting to see how this thing plays out over the next ten days would you would. He obviously wants out. Would you trade him now or before or during training camp or would you just look if you wanna play. Football is going to be us. If you don't wanna play then you can sit out but we're not trading you. That's exactly how i would feel chris. I wouldn't trade him for for for anything right now. I think that they've negotiated two point with the value that they have on his contract. And and that's just say there's two three years left on it. We read now where he turned down. I thought from day one that it might be about money and that i thought money might solve it. If it's true that he turned down. Forty five million a year recently on an extension that would make him the highest paid in the league. That's another story but that tells me green. Bay's done everything they can do. And after that point. I'm willing to say. Hey if you wanna play for us like you said if you wanna play it's gonna be for us where we don't have to trade you. Aaron rodgers can't trade himself so they have to. They have to decide what they want to do with it. I would just let him sit right now. That's the way if that's the way he's gonna play it. I would do everything. I can't support the support team and get ready to go and doesn't wanna play. I feel bad for him. That's that's his progress but we're going to move on and we can always re-assess if he decides to come in at a later date again. We're all speculating knocking right. I don't know that that's the case. So we'll see is it. Is it wrong to feel like at this point. Look air needs to come out and say something needs to come out public and be like look i wanna to be traded. I don't wanna play for green bay anymore or look. We had our differences. But i'm here to win the super bowl. And i'll be back like i mean. Is that fair to william. He needs to say something. I feel like at this point. I agree he. Will i think if he does report. He's going to have to say something if he doesn't he'll have to make a stamp. I kinda tired of cryptic in nature of the dialogue right. I mean we're all men here. Let's let's be professionals about it. Let's say what we wanted. And maybe he said that to the packers We haven't you got the details of it. But yes i agree with that. I think he's gonna have to say something. I think the packers are just going to ride it out and see what lane aaron picks and then there is going to have to react to it and and make a statement one way or another. Hey randy was there in negotiation behind the scenes that you can speak about now and it just got really sticky and came to the last hour where you figure things out but you know the media never knew involved a big name star there anything that you can think of. And it's just like man like we earned paycheck getting this thing done. Oh i think that's the nature of the business right. It's it happened. It happened with me a lot of times. Mickey loomis was with my cap guy a few times and i remember knocked down drag outs. That he would meet an agent in in a hotel. And i would hear the agent yelling through the door on the other side of things. We'd get crazy all time but the different now because you hear about everything right back then you sweep that under the rug. The thing that i always felt like we did a really good job of wherever i was is we kept that professional and didn't take your personal again. I think that the the way to negotiate the is to treat them. Treat the other side like they do have value like they do have something to say and that you have to hear every part of it doesn't mean you have to agree to it. I just think sometimes the negotiations themselves get off track because people take things personally. That's everybody's job is to be the to to be the cooler head and come to some type of mediation that's just the way the world is when you negotiate randy great stuff man we appreciate the knowledge and insight thank you. Thanks randy anytime guys irony. Thanks disgruntled sports fans. This one's for you. Trash-talking tuesday's next Couple of fox sports radio as seven seven ninety nine or ox eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine talking trash. Be sure to catch live editions of the odd couple with chris. Broussard then rob parker weekdays at seven. Pm eastern four pm pacific on fox sports radio and the iheartradio app. Hey basketball fans. 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Spring Fishing with Bendoski Power Fishing

American Outdoor News Magazine

36:20 min | 6 months ago

Spring Fishing with Bendoski Power Fishing

"All right. I'm chris being american. Outdoor news and spring is in the area. We have josh danski from in dusky pella fishing and He's also a writer for american outdoor nudes josh. Thanks for taking the time for being with us today. I'm super excited to be on here. I really love the magazine. I love being a part of it being able to contribute to it and and being able to you know help people catch more fish. That's really i. I'm not amanda fishing section of course and that's really what we're all about and i'm really excited to be on the show so yeah let's get into it. I know you're a big fisherman. You're always posting videos. You gotta youtube channel. How'd you get hooked on fishing. You know that's a good story. I'll take here and relate The folks out there. That are fishermen. Most of you i would imagine her of the provo river program is world famous fly fishing people come here from europe from basically from all corners of the world. Fish the pro bowl rings. And i just happened to grow up about three blocks from provo river and so just the jet i i used to you. Know every day after school Walk you know my mom would let me just walk down to the river with my vision goal as i used to fish proper every single day. You know as a young boy might. My grandfather came down and and and you know my youtube channel finger. Pearl river that much because Just because river fishing for me is kind of slow fisher a good day even on pro river. Great deal pro river. You know you may. I don't know maybe tannock. Most you got really slick to get ten in the day probe river but you know. It's just world-famous it since one of the most popular rivers and the whole world four five fishing as i do fish bekasi and i'm gonna feature in a lot more my videos. I just you know as as i grew up in utah which is phenomenal phenomenal outdoors fishing with us so much stuff wrong rocky mountains I got more into lake fish. 'cause you know a lot of youtube videos if your check that out know we like to catch you know thirty forty fifty hundred fish bay and lakes here in the rocky mountains have that potential you can go out there and catch a hundred fish a day on a good day and that just doesn't have on the river soaks but we fish all over the world. We fish Strawberry we fish. There's there's different lakes. Feed proble river in jordan nell and then a deer creek an all these big lakes up here. They all feed this river with big beautiful beautiful trout and so You know when. I i just gotten older. I've gotten a vehicle. And so i fish toll river i mean like i said for until you know from from probably eight or nine years old till i was in my teens when i got vehicle. Then i started going to. The lakes. lakes here offered huge trout. Just big beautiful trout and And so that's really. What got me into fishing. I just didn't have much to do after school. And so i just walk. I mean in manager familiar with the area and in some people are but the hospital. Has there's a humongous hospital that has been bought. My mom's house it by the actual home. That i grew up in is a parking lot now through the hospital but it was like three blocks. From reverend i spent a man. I spent years and years of my life Decision provo river and then he just grew into something bigger than that. So that's kind of a longer story but that's how it happened. So now you're a lake fishermen. What's you favorite fish to go for. You know utah. It's funny because we check with so many trout and utah famous trout. That's what the fly-fishing here is all about. But i probably river ends at my favorite lake of all. It's called utah lake. It's it's where pro river ends. I mean it's it's the one of the most famous rivers in the world ins and there's no trout and you totally 'cause it's just low enough that it's to want the the trout. Don't go down the river. That far war i knew while i come to the next to run right now but while i come down but my favorite fish is catfish because in utah although we have really big trout really big trout not like you know ocean. It's not like ocean trout mangas. But they're you know the really big and beautiful but catfish for me. They are so big so strong actually just last night. I caught like twenty five Catfish they're just starting to heat up right now And there'll be a youtube video coming out on that soon but but yeah catfish there in utah again in the rocky mountains in general actually cross the whole rocky mountains although trout is the famous famous fish you know catfish or way big stronger than any trout that i've ever caught. And they are just such a blast. I you know doing a noodling the so we don't have the type of catfish that's a function of a syllabus berg brief story that's because we don't have i'm not sure what type of catfish you can new for one. That doesn't bite. I know that for sure because they stick their hand in them out yes. I've been bitten. I used to hold catfish when i was younger before. Got bit handful. Times by mouth like a bass you know what i mean you. Old bass by the mail a catfish list the types of catfish. We have here. They will clamp down on your own soul hard maple by you for real. And they don't have t but they have power you know there. He's my heart joel. Yeah but more importantly they got like a crushing power. that's how they crush their their prey. The they crunch down on them really really hard. And so in fact one of the to channel one videos i got i got bit so harvey catfish including believe how hard ethics so i don't actually stick my hand in cap fishes maps that are burlington. Nearly i definitely want to try to link but it's different it's Wish i knew a thought my head. And i apologize for not having this information of finally but i i just it's a different kind of catfish you can put your hand in the mouth and the was here. I mean if you and i have stuck my hand in their mouth and they bite super super hard. I mean it. Is i think the only thing that would keep me from trying. That is that you don't know what's in that all used to in that whole turtle in their you know emphasis really pretty girls. Follow on instagram. What's that one Young gal's name super payments a hand or something like that on whatever it is. She's always out noodling and stuff. She's gained a huge following but man they must know you know it must be different. They must also because she and they go down in their head so yet noodling. I'd want to try. I want to do it but with the height of catfish we have here because they will claim your. You're on you know what i mean mean catfish that's one of the and i love cats. That's one of the reasons. I love catfish generals because they are so powerful. That is a powerful fish. And you know sticking your hand in their mouth. The i i wanted to joppa that community go. It's kentucky or something similar back east and strengthening like louisiana and dowell. Now you said you're gonna be doing a little bit more. Fly-fishing this This season yeah the recent that i want to just because it's so famous i mean there's people that on a bucket list and it's it's interesting that you know the pro rivers so popular but i mean so. I just need to get out there. I i need to go out there and fly fish and and catch a bunch of and do some youtube videos on it. Because it's right here right now and probably good half minutes from provo river you which is a big deal for a lot of fishermen i mean like i said they people come from old world's this year fly fish and they miss a nice look. How do you get prepared to go. Fly fishing lydia. Watch like the river wants so it would bread pet you you get your you know it's funny that you mentioned brad pitt. But also right here. Pro river runs right through sundance sundance. His son it's only twenty minutes from house. I'm gonna is owned by robert redford. I mean we got a lot of stuff going on. There's so much outdoor stuff here but yeah Fly fishing is big lake in utah. I mean really really really big But you know as i mentioned i just. I fixed that river for years and years and years. I mean i. I even to this day although i fish fish fishburne author. I've fist that rumor. I don't know that. I could ever fish anywhere else more than i had the proper just because i finished it every single day for you. Don't the first part of my life was fishing women. Yeah so i just you know. But the truth is it gets vissel. Arctic it's a lot of pressure Efficient we call it pressuring. Its pressured so hard that there's just not that many big fish. I and you know it's funny when you live here in. New jersey is versus destroying. When you live here. You know trout river small and people are always an and how happy for them. They're proud to catch twelve inch trout or a nine inch drought. With which if they would have known that you know an extra twenty. Mac drives strawberry which is a beautiful reservoir. We have that here in utah. I'm usually catching twenty. Three twenty four trout and catching them by the thirties or forties or even get up to one hundred days on really perfect day hundred of these big trout. Fishing hair's just absolutely phenomenal in the rocky mountains system as you know and and i'm just lucky to be here in lucky to have the opportunity to do the interpreting and just help people catch fish because You know and we are going to tour. I wanna mention we going to tour to we. you know. Most of our youtube stuff in utah at the moment but This next season we are going to go off through the rocky mountains colorado wyoming idaho. There's so much fishing up here and We just like to you know what we do. Is we go out and we show people what works. That's one of the main things about that. She in fact. It's one of my tips. That i give on my on. My channel often is that you know if you if you can talk to a local or somebody who has fished that water because everybody water eating and in some really really big unsure anywhere. That's the same thing right where this side of the lake. Maybe the north ablett's state north into the lake. Certain tactics work there. Certain things that we'll go there phenomenally well but with these really really like utilizes monster size but In the south lake is a totally different setup that works because these lakes are so big but then we also have some of the small ones where the same thing works you know throughout the whole the whole lake but some legs are so big that each harbor even has kind of a slightly different system and it. Just it's just it's cool. It's cool to kinda share all different intricacies of of what works at the different places and elevations to elevation is a big deal here in utah to utah. We have as i mentioned Which is world famous for trout which ends in a lake. That is too warm for them to even to. You know i never seen anyone gets a trout out of utah lake. But you'll five minutes a five minute drive up. Provo river world-famous. Like as you know for proud. It's it's very interesting because you'll have the temperature of the water. We have so much so much diversity. Here is just pretty interesting. You know. I mean that's really what it is. It's intriguing in wigan take a quick break but when to to talk about some sponsors in the second but i wanna talk about What you would how you would get somebody into Fresh efficient fresh water. Because we know it's very different than fishing salt water. what steps. They should take in how they should go about getting started. But we're gonna acknowledge phone scope. One of our sponsors Scope industries always coming up with innovative products. The pyro putty and Light is and things of that nature definitely check them out would definitely check out underwood ammo a few If you're a hunter or a target shooter you gotta check out their animal and louis Hunter the lifetime They are providing hans to Sa- children gonna take great in india. Hear from them in the second. We love our children. We protect them. We guide them. We prepare them for life in the world with all that we do. From deep in our hearts we cannot control all things. Life threatening illnesses and disabilities affect far too many of our children each year while we cannot change the circumstance we can make dreams come true dreams to provide help to provide spiritual healing and strength to quickly moments of happiness and relief in the hardest times. We can give a glimmer of light and hope in a time of darkness and despair. Join pun 'til nighttime dot. Org to help helmet dreams. Come true to provide hope for children with life. Threatening illnesses and disabilities hunt of a lifetime is a nonprofit organization fulfilling dreams hunting and fishing trips to youth. Twenty one hundred with life. Threatening illnesses and disabilities visit hunter. White dot org to learn how you can make a difference. Okay back josh. Somebody just starting to get into fishing whenever an adult or a teen or child. How do they go about. It was the best advice who get them. So this was actually mentioned. In one of the articles and gavin checks it out first of all i want to say. Thanks sponsors sponsors. They really really help the industry. I mean it's it's a big deal. Thanks and i'm glad that we were able to highlight these guys. And i'm grateful every one of them For for jumping on helping us out here so just getting into fishing. Fishing is very relaxing. Very it's therapeutic really days and and Just amazing way to spend your time but Bait fishing and i want to get into barometric pressure to after this is because it's very very very or extremely important especially for somebody just getting inefficient to understand bridge pressure. But you know bait. Fishing is so there's there's There's five fishing which we talked about. Which is Takes a lot more skill A lot more understanding of what the fish are interested in which is one of the draws for for advanced fishermen. But if you're getting into fishing on one of the best things that you can do is in utah say in utah. You're gonna have three hooks and that's that's pretty much a staple cross but you always want to check the guidebook where you're at right so like for example in utah life medals. We have to use debt once. We have to be diagnosed. There's just certain skew that that needs to be open makes you check guidebook because you want to just fall regulations in your area but bake fishing is the easiest type of fishing in my opinion. What you wanna do is this is the. This is one of the articles. I really name to it in an article For american news. So make sure you check that out but Utah and most states allow for three hooks. That's why you see allowable lures like the you may see a jerky that has three. Had one right here in my hand. But i don't but The has three look so every every state and even actually bodies of water you generally have their own regulations to so But three hooks and so with bank fishing. My recommendation always is a three hook system. It's a what i call it a buffet but You night crawler or wasn't that crawling because that's just worm since the beginning of fish runs. I'm not even sure how they became now mary. They've been married. Since the dawn of time i guess would be the way to say it so throw run and And in your area you wanna look at known sometimes powerbase. You're fishing for trout. Then maybe the second hook has poujade on it. You're going for trump oregon for you may portrait on which you've got to kind of figure out or look around ask around which is a big and fishing is ask jump onto the local of a baseball primarily there's groups there's fishing groups everywhere and if you just ask the locals what works but you put three different types of beta worm and let's just say the Lake the worm chicken a piece of chicken breast raw and then a piece of whatever. The natural food source is not water. This has white bass just because there's maybe billions with a b in this in this like that. I like fish. It was and then you just wait and that is the easiest way to fish because you just wait in official grab it and a lot of times. They'll be hooked Before you even have to set the hook so north bass fishing robinson is. We're gonna say he set the hook large which is true with bass fishing but if bake fishing you just kind of wait you know and if you just barely getting into fishing you just kind getting you know poor. You're used to it Bay fishing each just wants to do because they will eat whatever it is on the hook. Where with a bass fishing or so. You're tricking him with a fake roar. And you gotta hook them So if you just getting into fish and you just kidding just go out there throw so you know different types of food food on your on your hook and just toss it out there and you can just wait in times In each lake even you can catch twenty thirty forty fish in an evening with that system. You know what i mean and then you go into the more advanced five fishing young like provo river fly fishing Those are those are the clock more skill also just getting into it just getting into fishing. If this is like a new thing i listen. Try bait fishing. I because it's just so simple and it's tremendously on I found that. Baker may never even used. I've never used bacon but that actually could be as good strong oily and it's attracting who everyone likes bake especially bacon. I'm going to go out. You know we've got a storm coming right here. So that can lead to bear much pressure but we got storm command. What's usually means fishing fishing So i think. I i i think it would make sense to transition into barometric pressure right now because this is a big. This is one of the biggest deals. It's gonna watch that. One of the biggest deals in beijing is barometric pressure in It's something i always a mentioned people and there's a lot of people even if they've been fishing up a wives they don't know about so you'll you'll hear fishermen talk about. Hey i got this great spot. And some days i can catch twenty thirty forty six and some days i zero want. You know even with a sack. Same presentation. exact same setup and with fishing All fish if you when you're gonna eat the fish and you're gonna open it up. You will see air stack. They have a little air sac inside of their stomach and it controls their points right. So many fish wants to hang out you know In two thousand feet of water or wants to hand sixty feet of water much lower in the water column and so. There's a reason that they have air sac. Abolition or or however they ended up with it they have one right so as an air sac inside of it now. The best way to related to an individual is Orders took to if you've ever heard like your uncle or even hunt. I'm getting a little myself. And i can sort of feel it in some of my joints but there's a lot of people say oh there's a storm come on. They know because they got something. There needed a bad knee. Then join exactly. Yeah you got. So they can feel what's called the atmospheric pressure or barometric pressure was comes in the weather report. It's always in the weather reports overfishing this a very important very important thing and so what happens is there's the pressure of the atmosphere. Which if you're young and you back once you can't feel her but the best way to relate hit to somebody's if you ever swam joked off a diving board and swim and tried to grab a coin off the bottom of the swimming pool ears hurts your brain birt's thresher. Yes yeah examined suppression of water. That's pushing down inside of your head. And so it'd be like trying to math ticks. when you're at the bottom swim on your head right. So barometric pressure is high. That pressures pushing down on air sac inside the stomach. It's almost like they have a stomach ache. That's probably the best way to put it. Is they have a tummy ache. So you may an in the end. The weather it's good indicator if bad weather like stormy weather means low pressure. It's better fishing general. But they're not a hundred percent related. You could have back whether with high pressure. So you always want to check Either an app on your phone does ask google Barometric pressure and it doesn't fluctuate that much. Let's switch from about twenty eight point. And the point report. Twenty eight six twenty point zero up to thirty one point zero but minor fluctuation in. It's it's unfortunate that the scale is so small because only goes up to three points in fluctuates between two points never never goes beyond those tube fishing at thirty point one is gonna be super hard to catch a fish because they. It's almost like they're underwater. Doing trying to do math they don't. They're not hungry at their stomachs hurt. Because they're they're getting compressed. Air sack is just getting squeezed. It's very challenging to catch fisher joy whereas on a low pressure day which maybe it's only twenty nine point one twenty nine point six or something like that but it's lower. Then they relaxed. Their stomach is fine. Not they're hungry and you can catch a lot more fish. That's why you see people. Like i mean it happens all the time man. I caught fish. This exact spot with this bay or this lure whatever it may be and then they go back the next day the cats either they get skunked which is really unfortunate or they catch wanted to and they don't really know why it happened you know and if you're not watching the weather that can happen to you you know and and it really will help you understand what are the best days. Go fishing now. Of course you just fishing refunded. Relax go fishing anytime that you can. That's that's what they say. You know that kind of the big thing and fishing his day. Fishing is better than a day working every single time. I don't even catch a fish. How does mary his head. Is that very one. Your ice fishing as opposed to fishing on a nice spring day. You know so. The atmosphere pressure doesn't really have a it doesn't it is across all seasons so the pressure. It's you know it's like the guy with a bad knee You know doesn't matter if it's wintertime. You can tell storms coming does matter summertime. He tells storms sneeze telling him you can feel the pressure. So it's it's and. I'm glad you mentioned that because it doesn't really it's kind of a good guideline if you say okay. Well it's stormy today so probably is low or it's super sunday like if you look outside and it is a crystal clear blue sky gay. Generally that means the pressure's really really hot. And you're not going to catch for stations actually better to have come storm. However they're closely related. I was closely related stuff. What the question was. But they're closely related their closely related. But they're not one hundred percent relate that's why also check it because it can be crystal clear and high and it can be crystal clear and low but in general the cloudier. The stormier is better. You always have to check it because you never know. It could be cloudy and stormy. Nba super high atmospheric pressure. Not not a scientist. So i don't know exactly what creates this but i just know that it's the weather. Report is easy to find out what it is and those of you out there especially do that like a really hot fishing spot or somewhere that you liked to go all the time like property when i was little kid and someday we'd catch tunnel some you know and back then i didn't know but that fresher it i mean you can especially with folks at fish finders we fish finders a lot and you know we don't always use them but you know i we like to use them because it gives you an extra edge right just like anything and with those fish finders. You could be a high pressure bay. You could be right on top of a full school of fish and and what you have to do. In a hyper state. You still can get fish. It's not the you're not gonna get very many but we have to get his. What's called reaction strike so the fish is not hungry at all you have to do is you have to annoy or piss it off so you wanna do something with a lot of a lot of rival a lotta sound very phase. Where you're looking for is you're trying to catch fish on pressure. Day is a reaction by. So there're you want to mimic a fish. That is an agitating. The you know the school and so Fish will bite it because it just wants to kill it. The not hungry. He wants to just kill this agitating thing. That's floating around wherever there so it's just got to be mindful And if you know there's a guide services and i just want to talk about is just very briefly here. There's some guide services that i know of that. They will do everything they can to reschedule or to move a guided tour if the barometric pressure is too high. Because they know it's going to be a challenge to get in and that's not going to be a great experience with people that are paying for the guy paints the the trick and so they do everyday chance hill. That pressure is. I believe i'm not going to get into it on this hard casper. I believe the barometric pressure is more important in the moon phase. It's more important than i mean. Just about every other aspect of fishing just because we're not precious high. Oh man around. It is extremely challenging. Jets bridge So that that you know that's a whole thing about barometric pressures watch it and and you will see if document your fishy trips in See how many fish catch and just document. What was the pressure that day. The pressure premature pressure. I think is probably v. Number one indicator of how many can test that there's a of other factors tons of other ones but if that barometric pressure is too high those they just basically it's like doing massive volume swimming pool no it's very challenging and and and then it you can avoid fishing days and say okay. Hey on especially if you're looking at doing guide servicing. That's that's a huge one for people that may be looking into that career of guiding a just you know somebody has a bad experience that i can share with their friends or they will share with you. Get much more business. Put gigawatts that pressure and start to understand it. Even you know. I'm not gonna get into it today. Warm temperatures number one with barometric pressure even way beyond water temperature it beverage pressures humongous for fishing. And you watch it. You can catch. You can plan your days right. So if i if i looked at the forecast and say okay. Today's high rose. Hi the next as low. I can go and cats. Like i did last night. You know i caught twenty five thirty thirty catfish right and it was just one after another being being being being proposed going off and in the pressure was high It would be super super slow night. You know maybe two or three but So that's kind of a thing you just watch it. You'd be i on it and then you know you know in. You can still go fishing on the high pressure days. I have planned just my buddies taking a any inning folks out just going out to hang out. I just know that is going to be slow. And also i'm not not it just helps me understand what i'm getting into an maybe get a reaction mike. Nah you know. And i couldn't get skunked and it'll that's one thing people may miss understand about. Somebody like needs fisher. Professional is that you know. I i just sometimes you know but i know what that's the important part. I know why. I'm being sculpted if the person was super super high. I would know that. I had a good chance against god's at but i'm still gonna disown going out with my buddies but i that's kind of what makes you really good angler. I think is understanding why you didn't catch fish. It's the conditions much like when you're going out hunting. The weather conditions the year. If they're in what they're not in rot. What's getting them running. Basically the same thing this factors For each running out of time here and read more about this in the summer issue of american outdoor news john worlds. Can we find your besides in american outdoor news so but my last name harvest spill but if you just type in it's been dusky power fishing but you don't even need power personalized. Things is unique enough. That just putting in. I'm gonna spell it for you. It's be ism boy e. n. d. o. s. k. I just put that in Of the internet and finding on youtube instagram. A lot of the fishing apps like this few others fishing. And you'll find us and what we try to do is just give much information and tips as we can catch fish in a when i was a kid i learned how fish but it took time and i you know if i had a resource. I don't wanna say hold him. But it was before the internet for sure on you but i have the internet united now the age of the internet sort of relation. And i'm just wanna help you catch more fish. I wanna have helped people house on amazing time fishing and putting on region. We are going to start probably this spring a series of Ah fishing tournaments so look for that probably youth We do grown up ones but You'll probably where we're going ahead with it either way So yeah check us out online just type in benghazi and you'll find us everywhere. Okay great. I appreciate your time and i will look forward to your article and i'll speak to major.

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#666: Getting Unstuck at the Beginning

Advanced Selling Podcast

17:07 min | Last month

#666: Getting Unstuck at the Beginning

"In this episode of the advanced selling podcast genetics alert. we revisit. A longtime labor day tradition in the united states. Every genetics term baby boomer will finally remember. Bill gives a whole notes concert review. And i'm just going to tell you it's not very good and we go to the lincoln group for our topic today. We're going to do the first of a three part series on how to get a deal. Unstuck welcome back to the advanced. Selling podcast. the longest running sales training. Podcasts podcasts history. I'm bill caskey. And i'm brian neal. Welcome everybody again. It is monday and we are so pleased to be able to speak with you today. We've got some awesome things planned for you over the next thirty days. You're going to start hearing about it here. Actually next week If you have not joined are linked in group. Go to advance selling podcasts. Dot com slash linked in. We are over twelve thousand members right now and We actually did a poll in the membership in the group. This week to see what you wanted to talk about. So if you're not a member you can't respond. We'd love to have your member there. Yeah twelve thousand. One hundred and so Let's get that to thirteen thousand. Shall we okay sound. Like i'm like jerry jerry. Lewis telethon jerry. Lee lewis jerry. Lewis those days uh-huh. Oh yeah jerry lewis. Telethon some of your jerry lewis. Mda there was a thing to do back when we were kids on labor day weekend in the united states here. Oh that's right. We can tell jerry lewis performer from back in the fifties and sixties with the thing about that telephone. Is it raise money. A lot of money for was a muscular dystrophy. Must go but the show was amazing. It was it was. It was a seventy two hours booze. Who and the entertainment business. That's how you raise money. Yeah and then. Your kids used to go around. We'd go around the neighborhood money. Go down to the mall. Eastland mall in evansville indiana. Go to the fish bowl and then dumped the money in the fishbowl. Yup back in the day or read on their s you answer yeah texas check exactly but you just you just go fund me. Go fun them. Somebody i've got a little A little bit for you here today. I am but you mentioned I don't know if i should say. I'm go ahead say You mentioned hall and oates is a. Oh yeah we talk about this. I saw your twitter okay. I saw your twitter. Hala notes is an american band. Been around there. Probably seventy two or three There classic i mean seventies eighties kinda yacht. Rock wouldn't yes there. Yeah and they have a list of. They have a list playlist to my long. I mean it's unbelievable and so my wife wanted to go see them. So we went out to what i affectionately referred is deer creek. Saint here always deer creek It's an outdoor amphitheater here in the in indianapolis and went to see him and they cancelled from last year. So i've been looking for this for a year and they were back and and Here's here's my analysis of it. Certain songs. I was two minutes before i realized what the song even was. Oh really like bad yes really. It was best so disappointed and what was interesting is. I'm not sure how much of it was the band. And how much of it was the sound engineer Because when i was sitting there. Then i'm thinking is this just me and my wife was saying the same thing and the crowd was went from going nuts. Two sitting out about three and i looked online reviews and the last seven or eight shows. They had done. Everybody was complaining about the sound. No kidding yeah. And the next night i went to see you know. I'm not a big fan of tom. Petty yeah until last weekend. I went to see a cover band. Tom petty and he's unbelievable. Fantastic a really good really good and what. It sound guy Halfway through and i said i just wanna tell you i was at halts last night. I'm here tonight. You're doing awesome job. He goes what happened last night. And i told him he goes. That's weird because they bring all their people with yeah right every show and so. I wasn't a great show. I'll i'll leave it at that. I cut a little slack. Because they are seventy four years old. But i don't know if it was them you think they're sound engineer seventy four years old. He's deaf. I think he's He's still back there in the real the real on the sixteen. That's okay so that's that's okay. You wanna go to topic. Yeah okay so we're going to go One of the Whole items that we put in. Lincoln group was What how to deal with stuck deals stuck deals in in the sales process and stockdale's deals can mean a lot of things and it can mean a lot of places so we'll bill and i thought we would do is. Let's do a little three part series on how to get deals unstuck or talk about why they get stuck and how to keep them from getting stuck in three predominantly normal parts of the process. You would say the beginning the middle and the end very scientific way to think about the sales process. Isn't it very very high level beginning middle and end so today. We're going to talk about what happens when you get stuck the beginning. Maybe right after discovery. Call after someone says. Hey i'd like what you're you sent me here. Semi some more information would love to do a schedule of another discovery or something like that and then goes so anything in the first couple of stages. Yeah from an initial phone call to an official discovery call or discovery call to whatever that next call in your process. See i think another one. That's interesting to me. Is the the call in the dreaded. Call in which i love those. I love when people you know like we got this huge deal that ended adele. Where did come from. Well they call then. Yeah yellow pages. Yeah of course so But all of these are situations that we all deal with where we have some level of excitement upfront. that's high and then all of a sudden it dissipates. Really quickly can't get them to call us back. Can't get them to schedule. What do you do. Do you wanna talk about why it happens or give some thoughts to what to do. What do you think we should talk about. Why would just thinking that in the beginning of any process whether it's you being the buyer and you're going to apple and thinking about a new computer or you know somebody coming over to your house to sell you something there's always a very vulnerable place there. Where if you if you pitch too hard and come to quickly and lean too much. You will get resistance from the prospect and so i think it in terms of the why sometimes if that first discovery call goes well we get excited and chances are we might be more excited than they are and then we push a little bit too hard for the next call and then things start to freeze up so i think one of the things we have to be mindful of is in that first phase will call it the beginning part with to be waived to be conscious that it's a vulnerable phase for them for us and i think any other word doesn't describe it. It's it's the beginning. The budding of a relationship is a vulnerable time. Oh that's audible. Budding of a relationship is a vulnerable time. The budding of a relationship. Di di di di di di di di di di di That's really really great button. Budding muddy Butting budding budding. Here is I've got a little little phrase them and using saying a little bit Suggesting that people downshift their emotional geared in neutral downshift into emotionally neutral because what happens in the beginning stages you think about those of you. Who make some of you do cold calling stuff or cold outreach or even if it's lukewarm outreach or if you get a connector and someone connects you to anytime you get a new opportunity you tend to get emotionally forward up. It's kind of what you're saying right. Exactly we're saying and so the the moment that that first discovery part the very first thing whether they say yes to a meeting anything that your trigger to downshift to emotionally neutral. So it's not like oh we got a great meeting we have. We have an awesome meeting scheduled. All we got we had a really big opportunity that just call right So you're just emotionally nutri just downshift. You're just going to have the meeting and back in that. I think set you up. You need the trigger point. So i'd like to coach. the trigger. Point is whatever that first commitment is. Whether it's a meeting they schedule a demo. They agree to a discovery or they just call in so like hey. I saw your stuff on the internet. I like to talk to you about joining one. Year programs triggered downshift emotion neutral. Okay let's that's all we know we're just right back down versus great. Thanks for calling you know. Yeah same thing. Probably at a lot of that is what goes on in your own head as a sales professional yeah That gets in your way. What movie do you start playing out. a man. We got this guy coming in. Maybe we've got five behind that. Maybe there's what this guy's vp of say. So i just. I like that. Downshifting neutral just beyond bias. Just just just just play with what is in front of you. What's in front of. You is not someone who wants to cut you. Check from a one point five million. What's in front of you as someone who just happened to call yup and so deal with what's in front of you deal with words in france Also i think the you know it's interesting. We're talking about this because this skill of the sales professional here is one of of hyper awareness in in judgment about the psychological intricacies of the sales process and of new relationships. And all that. i think. I think when we're not in neutral when we're in forward flying forward miles an hour we're not even self aware now and when you think he called us so he's really wants to talk. So let's let's see if we can book this deal today on the call. We'll give them ten percent off until and we've got to be again hypersensitive that there is a seasonality to this and the first season is where things were just checking each other out and So how you behave in that first season is going to determine. I think it actually if you if you down shift into neutral as you say what you like. I think the deal happens quicker Yeah versus if. I doubt shift into neutral. That's going to take four more calls. No no. that's not what we're saying. We're saying go slow now so you can go fast later. We're full of quotes. We're under the under the gun. Gun quotes out right quote cards That's really great or we'll go or the as the old western saying when a guy was standing up looking at the bowl was standing up now. I used to tell the joke. I stopped telling the joke. It's actually retold from the movie colors Police officers standing on top of the in los angeles old movie from these colors about gang warfare. La in the eighties. You can look at that. And sean pins in that movie. The young cop so to speak. But that's a really good story. I don't tell anymore used to it's very raw for sales to it's like but we can't talk anyway. Everybody knows what that is probably Let's see here's a thing. Think about Do you talk too much in your discovery. So we're still early phase and our friends at gone We're actually doing. Can we save can i. We're teasing that. We got some stuff a forensic gong gong sales enablement revenue intelligence company Really really great product program. We're going to be doing some special stuff with them. That's your little tease state. Stay tuned They've got some stats. That show this that when we talk too much on discovery odds go down that we get the next action. And that's what they measures. What do i get the second third call. Do i get into the middle. And so i would. Have you examine the amount of talking. You do in early discovery. That would include your emails if you read your emails. And they're overloaded with jargon. Check to see if you might want to scale that back a little bit. Your discovery meetings Are you doing a lot of telling. Here's what we do and talking about yourself and your company or are you doing a lot of questioning curiosity and engagement and intrigue that sort of stuff I think this causes people to get stuck because a consumer or a buyer on the outside looking in goes. Oh wow. I love to talk to those guests. The events podcasts. They look pretty cool outside looking in they send us a note we up on the call with them. We wear them out. We wouldn't do this but we'd wear them out talking like okay never mind. They don't say never mind but they say okay. Well thanks for the time today. I really appreciate your time and very informative if you hear. The words very informative in a sales call. That means you've talked too much. Guaranteed you know people say versus. Wow this really has my wheel spinning you really got me thinking. That's a much better response in buyer than while. This has been very informative. Thank you very much. So let me talk to a couple of people and Yeah maybe give you a call back next week. That's a no means you talk too much. There's my ideal bringing back the automotive discussion shifting into neutral. yeah is the Is the idea that you know when you're in a race you're constantly on that edge of spinning out and and being effective in passing cars. And i think indy racers have that. There's that edge. There's always that edge might go too fast into the turn to try to overtake this competitor. I might spin out into her into the wall. And so there's constantly a feathering back and forth between what's too much eagerness in what's not enough eagerness. Yeah yeah. I think the more aware we are of that the more likely we will be to feather at correctly. And i just think you'd have to be mindful. I just think that's the number one thing is okay. I'm getting ready to go into this call. I just had a call yesterday. Brand new prospect and i was thinking on the way to the call You know i. I need to make sure that. I'm interested because i am interested. It's still not not attached to it and not desperate for. Because i'm not in so just yeah i think just a mindfulness is sometimes all it takes up of that. Little depressing is closed for their calling. Really really good. And i spun out into the driveway kind of in sideways. Here's something that i think is interesting again. I i do a little too much gone quoting sometimes but they've such good stats They have a stat about talking about pricing in the front. And the first call. And i'm going through a buying process. Now we're i'm the buyer so me and our ceo or talking to this firm to help them have them hire them to do some help. I've talked to some other peers in town and they've told they said You know how much they charge you know. And i'm like no even talked about that yet. We're going to be in our second meeting. They're like okay. Well here's what we pay. Here's what we everyone's telling me. I'm like oh gosh okay. If it's what everyone else's pan we're not there yet just not really to invest that kind of money For what this particular group does Gong says that if you talk about money early your odds go up that the you get the next you get the next meeting. And that's a big debatable. Thing because a lot of people are taught to not talk about pricing in the first call. I have changed on that. Yeah i've changed my tune. I think if you're getting stuck in the beginning it could be because you haven't talked about it or it could because you talked about it in the wrong way or or in weird way almost too soon with no context right and so i would. Have you examine. If you're getting stuck in the beginning of a sales process ask yourself. Where did i have a money conversation. And what did it go like that. I haven't denominate pain enough. That i put money onto it all that other stuff that we teach That i think is a reason people get stuck in the beginning. Yeah yeah i would. I would say if. I have no idea what the cost is. It's easy for me to say to arrive at a conclusion that i can't afford it when really maybe i could. Yes i think. I can afford it and really i can't or i'm just not will not about affording just about whether i'm willing to invest those resources so i like that. I think we should do a whole episode. Yeah that's really really good. Because i think things get stuck and often we don't know so the best we can do is surmise. We can say well. Maybe it's because i'm not talking about money. Maybe it's because. I really didn't find the problem. Maybe i was talking too much. Maybe maybe i wasn't even talking to the right person and we need so. There's lots of reasons that get stock. But i think early those. We've given you some tips today. That hopefully can help. If you want to join arlington group of course go to advance selling podcast dot com slash linked in might be doing these polls. We had a poll that we did the other day and like bryan. Getting stuck was the number one today. We talked about the beginning of the process. next week. We're going to talk about as we get deeper into the process. How do we get unstuck or not get stuck at all stuck in the middle. We'll talk about that too. I know we don't we do. Okay all right bye.

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Leading Those with Special Needs | An Interview with Stan Beagley

Leading Saints Podcast

35:38 min | 7 months ago

Leading Those with Special Needs | An Interview with Stan Beagley

"Role as latter day saint leaders. We face very difficult conversations that put us at risk of saying the wrong thing that can do more harm than good. Many of these conversations relate to lgbtq latter day saints. Have you had a fellow. Horde member come out to you about their. Lgbt identity. Have you had lgbt neighbors. And you just don't know what to say to them so you ignore them instead. Have you wrestled with bouncing love for your fellow men while still respecting the doctrines of the restored gospel. In order to help leading saints is put together the lgbt saints library with more than twenty presentations featuring individuals who have unique perspective or expertise around this topic. Three of the most popular sessions are available now to watch simply text. The word lead to four seven four seven four seven to start watching now or visit leading saints dot org slash. Lgbt welcome back to another how i lead segment which is part of the leading saints. Podcast my name. Is kurt franken. I'll be your host and get the awesome opportunity of interviewing some incredible people if you noodle eating saints. We are a nonprofit organization. Dedicated to helping latter-day saints be better prepared to lead and we do that through content creation. We have this podcast. Which i hope you subscribe to. Maybe leave a review. We also have the website with thousands of articles related to leadership topics leading saints dot org who have virtual summit a newsletter that you should definitely not miss out on and That's it so in this episode. This how i lead segment. We talked withstand bigly. Who's actually a bishop. And a father of the special needs son named jake and he reached out to me because he has a great project. He's worked on a podcast. Called the navigating autism podcast which sorta got blindsided with his calling as bishops so something he's keeping up on right now but in the future he hopes to have time and they have some great episodes there that You may want to check out and we wanted to do a how at least segment around this concept of leading those in award with special needs. How can we minister to him. How can we help them. Feel comfortable at church. Or how can we help the parents all these interesting angles and thoughts that. I'd never considered before and it was so helpful to talk to stand and ask them some of these questions solid advice and also there's this calling called the disability specialist. It's in the handbook folks. And i would guess most wars. I can't think of award. I've had one. At least i didn't know of but this is a calling that the church has created resources for that. We should definitely leverage in us to help our warts in this way so check it out. We talk about in this episode. let's get to it. Here's my interview with stand. Legally longside me is stand bigly. How're you stand. good stand. is our resident expert. Here maybe staying give us a background. Not that you're at you know quote unquote an expert. But you definitely have some life experience here. So where's that life experience. Come from so we a degree in of stuff. I just learned from zohar awesome. We have a twenty three year. We have four children. Our youngest is twenty three and he has the hottest fairly severe who doesn't speak and so we just gone through this kind of difficult process for our experienced. From in those days you had come an expert. Not as as there was a lot of a lot of word sorely. All ideas in my wife is all come from our experiences. We're just regular people salsa and then maybe how did the maybe tells the transition into that that sort of life you know parents expects it and Asian was he when he found out in what What was that transition of in your day-today life including your church life pretty brutal of you know. He was two years nine months and he was he was running normally and then he started arrest. Law saul speech before third birthday as really tough for us. A one of the things. That i like is francis than i appreciate now as you can have to go through a period of mourning because when you have a child like this you have this life the expect for them and policy simply different you know and you think you can finish your denial. Go through a lot of the things you do. You know if you to lose his child because a life you expected for them loss. Yeah yeah you lose a child in a different way right. The expectations of what that child's life will be like. And you know what will little league thing you know. They build a college. I mean all these questions. You sort of assume will happen suddenly. Fb reevaluated everything that we do our culture where we a beige of pay or the age of paul is not bad highs while we baptize will understand what that means is every time eight year old kids are getting clients should and will yan twelve year old and mission age. Solve hard or tough. Yeah yeah and then so. Is this something that did you pick up on. Something wasn't right Few years or had the diagnosis going to be times. Kids will learn develop normally when it Grass just lost. All of the speech started new. Self stimulatory His hands or morocco and things like that unsolved Schoolteacher said he need to go with him checked out. Of course we looked on the internet trying to figure out what was going on recovery off of leads. Is that way but you know so it was. It was a process in spite of us. Yeah again not that you're the peachy expert here but i'm just curious from what you teach us about. You know. they talk about autism spectrum in in in as far as like how asperger's fits into all that like. How would you explain that dynamic question things actually wanted to talk about. Was this spectrum or every all these disabilities in our world now. We have a little diets in a wheelchair. In every every case is different. Not just autism looks you know cerebral palsy. Other things like that kids house just on autism spectrum the more higher functioning kids you can talk about. How social issues. They used to diagnose them with asphalt syndrome. I actually not too much. They don't use the term. I know many wars Two more on the spectrum go anywhere so close to being normal but they just seem to some. That can't walk. that are less hyphen. tonight is my son. can't speak at all. He does sign language but he doesn't speak at all and he's skills are finding run job. And you know you might hear in. The background is trampling the base. Nice that that and that's interesting. I didn't realize Asked for is not necessarily a taboo term is not generally used. Or i don't know why is it so much anymore. It's offer kind of the characteristics of offers was they would at nine or ten or eleven twelve and usually regular autism Wanna call atas is more diagnosed. Younger interesting. use the term autism plus if they have autism. Another another diagnosis like anxiety or sociology. Year things like yeah interesting. in asperger's you know now known as the high functioning autism. It's amazing. I've met several people my life who i've known for years and then they share with me that they have asked burgers are high functioning autism. And i'm just like man. I couldn't i wouldn't have guessed right over us like being in crowds iphone. We took 'em to church for a lot of his life and we don't take him anymore. Is the warren and all that all the speaking in conversations going i just give him real anxiety so we are taken to the church for the last few years. Yeah so it should be mentioned. We've mentioned already but you have recently been called as a bishop of your ward and so you you're now seeing things on this issue from that standpoint As i remember as a bishop. There's this autistic boy you know. He was born in our award Diagnosed and everything. And you know we are aware of him and we. I kinda thought. I was doing a decent job making sure you advertising needs and then his mother came to me at one point and just sort of expresses her frustration disappointment of how her son was being treated in the war and i thought like i was trying to be mean. I was really trying. You know so when it comes to like just ministering to the family or helping them have a positive experience a church all these things like. Where do you even begin to help. In that realm. It's not hard because we've had a lot of experience now where he's twenty three years old now so we have a lot of things at work for us and we have attics where i think maybe a bishop or else congratulated release citing. President doesn't know what to do. How so it is kind of you know they just kinda freezing. Ignore norm a little bit or stick awesome parents. What can we do to help you. Say all right. We're good we're not because it's it's harder is allowed time. These people that want help serve all the time they don't want how you will serve sir out the servino story for we. Have you doing a lot of people would say. How can we help one of the characteristics autism asleep disorders like our sun is a horrible secret to this day. He does not sleep. Well sometimes he's out in the morning he's up for gallup and he's wrong and other types of sleep gels seven twenty. Wake him up or slow. So it's all over the place we were going through this the person and we have people say well enough. I can help nomi one 'cause friend who said we're gonna come common sleep outside. His door take turns. My wife and i sleep outside your sleep and that was so cool because that is a specific solution was just about beyond earth italian. We were on survival mean. It was like heavenly father told me make it through today just today and my wife and i we we have a lot of cheers for years just is driving down a freeway. Just start know. Just start ryan. Because i was hurting so bad for that specific plan to help us was really cool. The honest have to get beyond the non good. Because that's what we wanted everyone to think that we were good when the nationality we were just hanging on by reds. Yeah you know you mentioned that. Just being in survival mode that breaks anybody's There's other contexts of mortality were individuals around survival mode. And that's not a good place for anybody to be right. So i mean the old home. Teaching question are interesting. Question of is there anything we can do for me. Obviously you've never said well. Can you come to my house and sleep outside by son's door and maybe you should have. Who knows but i mean how do you begin to and this is sort of my problem. We're going to experiences of bishop. Like i didn't even know how to perceive the need let alone step forward in. Fill it you know. So what guidance could you give us their on. Perceiving the need of these families as like. Oh it's like some of the things that i with house bishop. It's like you all. I dunno to insert yourself a little bit. I don't want to force myself on people but people if they really run through the shell and asked us you know our sawyer dinar caned your house and they will see that we were really threaten. The interesting thing is my wife. And i handled it differently. I was gonna fixing. And i was going to do anything like there. A solution out there. No one spouse. I had all that weight. So i figured out a way i was going to be able to do that. And my wife decided those important we take our other three kids and roundly going so it's a hard thing as a leader to of insert yourself. I guess i would just say that if you think they're doing okay and especially of the diagnosis on the first year. They're probably not. Yeah yeah so is that i mean the first few years source crucial years benji sort of figure out routines and what works. And what doesn't you know down the road but it was the survival mode mainly in those for years was for us because we are going to be life on disability in fact my wife called me the other day the she wandered for those few years. You ever feel happy if she would. So it's provable. Get just just because of the demand. I mean the constant care that it's needed for a young child like that different to us as our families are. All out of the house is separate and as our family's grown in our appearance of nassar's you know we still have a a basically two and a half year old. That's sow join. It looks like he's jumping on traffic making sounds so different than all of our friends saw but luckily we found a great france. Soup have been able to kind of phrases. We have people come with him on sundays. So that my wife and go to church. That's something that were both of our words. Our new Where they said he went our in our in our previous were there were five or six calls would come to our all on sundays with him so we go to church with covid spro out here our really now. That people are ministering brother different family in the war of seer. They just concept with them so teaching church. What about this. Sometimes as i'm around you know. Autistic people specially with severe autism sorta. Like i don't know how i'd like do. Does he want me to sit by Does it help. If i put my arm around him. Like how do you introduce him. And i know every autistic individuals sort of different or has their quirks of sometime. Like gonna bite me or hit me or these types of things you know. So what's way of approaching that so that at least you know. Even when we're just together with friends. I can help you know the the individual feel comfortable while in there or whatever so. The general has agreed questions. A general rule. I think visuals likely to rake in their world. All the they call it autism for reason they want to be by themselves rather just in the corner by themselves but if you make eye contact with them and look at getting get on their level generally they lack they freak out obviously should doubt. But i'll tell you that's one way of doing yourself with the parents is if you we we our word that seventeen the every time i see him at church tackle up yours have and i i just i because i have experienced this because lifespan drawn him related to him. I'm even with covid asking how he's doing smiles. Happy tries to get away from me but his parents. I believe you know really you. Try to break into their world Wife if you're with don't ignore them because you don't want to do. just try. make an extra effort in emma even say. Would you mind if i came over an hour week in just for the next few weeks and it got to know you know your center. Whatever you to him for a walk around the block. I think he probably makes the long privately if you will. I should've asked really. What's the what's your son's name. His name is jake. Jake okay and in because you make some great points because it is easy like engaged with the parent you know. The the autistic individual wants to be alone essentially in so. It's easy to norm. And just think they're just sitting there while i'm talking with their parents but to really push yourself to engage in those little moments breath goes a long way a way but if you get if you get down in their and and so you could force it a little bit. I mean again depending on the individual but interesting that's great and then what about Let's talk about this concept of callings in the ward is far as in a lotta people we try and be in the handbook as much as possible but there is a an outline calling in the handbook called the disability specialists. And how you used that calling in. And what recommendation would you have for for others. So i'm still working through that this specialists and i just ask them to be involved families. There's a lot of things that families don't know for instance you can get government help for his kids any in utah. There's division services for people with disabilities that will pay respite care or be on a waiting list for a while before they all on situation but a talking about that. They're just like talk about for their survival up. You know when they become adults depending on the functionality level they can qualify for disability income so that the earnings are gone they can be less the financial burden on people. So if you look at disabilities not reviews price dot or there's a whole section on disabilities. There's an outline for the latest specialists again. Where every case is different. I would say it's going gonna take certain kind of it's not a i don't know it's a little bit more abstract because not everyone has the same type of disability. Yes you have to conform to whatever those needs are just the parents knowing that you have someone that is worrying about you. His is ask you about how their duty is just as meaningful. Yeah so sounds like rain step one and simply call a disability specialist inner ward right like even if they all well. There's nobody autistic in my words. I must not need but now there's we are mortals. Folks sitting there are disabilities somewhere larger smart or some that are hidden. You know the mental health that goes on in the needs. I mean there's something right and to have somebody that the war knows represents that calling. It's remarkable maybe the some of the needs little come out or people that approach them and whatnot and to know than step. Two is getting award council on this disabilities website that the church has disability specialist website. And then making sure that this new disability specialist calling is aware of it in from there they can know of the resources that are available to. I think that i would be shocked. Her in a war in most faces in the united states didn't have some forum autism alsi or at all. I mean the numbers in utah. Right now i believe one. In sixty six boys have autism Skyrocketing so it's a big number and i can't remember i've literally just three words in the last three years i can. I have individuals in each work as laws others about mental health. Issues are hard to see. You see some just fine but there For sure and with autism is typically more common in males right affordable Boys girls interesting. And let's talk about the the effects especially children have on their siblings and peers. Because that's a whole 'nother dynamic especially with those teenage years. Maybe is interesting time. This is something that my wife. And i agree on these kids have special spirits and one thing that i would say to leader or anybody. That listens is don't allow to a person with a noxious seek son or daughter and say you know kids like j to the very because i know their families. That aren't doing surgery but it's kind of their way of. I don't know how i'm gonna make you feel better the and tried to comfort you in all the wrong ways. I had experience in the bishop repeal work before when he called a special needs primary and we tell them it's just one year we got three autistic two ways one with wine and so we have three kids in this class and i only saw oh man. I'm dreading the call this or we would release them after year exaggerating they would cry because they miss kid so much because there is a special feeling i think prince my son. I'm gonna a little over. My son was very sick when he was more. He was in the icu for among us and for ten days it doesn't make it or not as after he recover. I started thinking okay. What's his purpose in life. You know after after the okay. Why is he still here. And i'm convinced and we've had a cocktail. We're convinced that his mission in life is to affect other people and to teach sound to law into the battle. No clue people that are the same as them. Because we i remember to your time. We call system letter releasing her from her calling after year and she's just brought tears of yellow with not in with him every sunday. It's going to be some of the draft but ends up being actually and my three. Typical children are with special needs. They're kind of the the champion of the of the downtrodden with champion of the under off. So it's just really happen. Facts on people and there are some fathers was choice dirt so he he's around people he has an effect on even though he can't be scissor. Much of i would imagine with your other kids. I mean obviously this year a special needs child needs so much attention to they. Kinda feel left out. Or how did you. Balance that or mitigate that clary the woman who was really smart and she by me but she kept our family together. And i think if you ask them they would say that they thought they were being raised level. Care for me. But i i was obsessed with curing his awesome Choose stable not to keep our family together for us. So interesting i just. There's nothing wrong with that. You know as a father. Naturalists sort of nature. We want to fix this thing. This thing's hurting our child. It feels like i'm going to remove it you know. And so that's that's interesting. Probably comment right. I would imagine with other couples. I would think that turned me on realize not broken. He's just different. I appreciate you saying that. He knows that thing not to say that You know the they send these spirits to families or there's sort of this sort of this feeling that its doctrine that before this life. They chose this or made they were special spirit and so that's why they had come with a disability in i would guess that that's a pretty loose doctrine if anything drew this could be true idol anybody's ever said it's ok at this point in their life. We just kinda appreciate eagle making the effort. It's okay but it's not helpful. So is there anything else like getting as far as on the don't say or do say lists that the we'll the don't say lists than anything else you've heard over the years. It's like i know you're trying to help. But that is not helping us to a lot of your podcasts. Or you know things. You don't try to the best thing i think is just kinda really are you guys. This has got to be really tough. I you know people saying what we really admired. That's not our try to explain it in a way that are not helpful. The you just remembering people would save for church leaders. Oh that we experienced Families i mean. I think that a lot of times church leaders looked at my wife and i as having tremendous challenge and so they steer clear of calling big callings. You know i was one of my questions yeah. The she was in the state women's presidency and the sega president asks for her two or three times and the leaders. Where like this other thing. I was so loud that she finally was able to do that because so so meaningful her to take her. She was able to do something because she needs that. She needed that as much as anybody. If not worse. Yes because it is a form of like like your your life purposes so much a part of your child's day to day existence right and so for someone to say. Hey you know we have this other purpose that you could engage with and and it's sort of like this break from that thing in the like you want to be involved in. I go to this meeting. And yeah we'll get that other stuff covered. But i love being involved and having other purpose in life and even though we have a challenge. Were you know were capability you know for her. I had a couple of key been individual bracket and stay home. I'm not saying too much. Ever want to stay friends. The bishop's would have jake preclude you from serving as the bishop and i said it would be really hard. I don't think it would preclude be not so the freshly with I think in our case with my wife. I mean i think having some kind of meaningful calling is good for her when she said that she probably leaders thinking that they're actually helping her because she's so rounder probably probably missed time or two and so. I'm just curious like how later maybe how you'd maybe coach elite on approaching that 'cause it don't just ignore it knack like recalling years released sipe resident and we're not going to mention anything about your special needs child right like i mean maybe is bringing up in the as you're extending that calling or a gives them time to think about it. You know maybe we need to pray about this or whatever anything you'd add to that not just like any calling me. Think if you rely on inspiration of the Spirit Get i think that you know. I mean i. I don't know if. I want to be a huge calling the first year or two after dealing with the once we were finding ways down after all of that and i will say it's easy now but we saw into what our new life is is like. It's so if anything else as far as like the in calling for for parents of special needs children that's worth mentioning cut treating them just like any other. I mean already showers sobriety. And when you where you're able to deal with it. I think you can do this just like someone who may be dealing with. I don't know a medical condition are a divorce or anything like that. A lifetime specific. We sometimes we overlook people and max saying people. Will you know. And i think that a lot of times calling can be beneficial equal the situation. You're awesome. I feel like breeze. Best too quickly. The disability specialists calling anything else we have mentioned about that calling your had health succeed or anything like that to say really. I mean it's like a lot of things in the church. It's up to us. You know up to us. One thing that i struggle with is whether adam report to me or the for president recite president. I see what the reaction is there. But just seeing aware of them's i mean. Our families are warm. Now no we have especially a disability. Specialist tickets is meaningful fernando because we realize the bay Realized a special challenge and we want to be there for the research now and then i wanna make sure we before we wrap up as far as a youth you start your own podcast about being a parent of But it's been put on hold a little bit with your calling his bishop but gives us a plug their or what. What's the intent there. And what can people find if they go to that. Bot guests minute my purpose is talking to you. Today was haven't done for there are there are assaults and really cute with my three. My three typical children were around the table and discuss what it was like a special needs child so anywhere. You find a podcast. The navigating autism now is that is that a term. Typical children is that like define. Your others is that like a common phrase servings down syndrome would call it down syndrome. We look at some of the other words. People use you say normal trial. I don't really have any normal children. I have two children. I am not just job. Those words kind of some kind of sensitive to people you know. Yeah yeah and anything else. As far as the the titles in words in phrases that are used it would be. Because i've never even considered that that term typical children which is would be helpful while we don't use terms like retarded anymore or anything like that. It's it's her whole is seen to be able to see a child especially as childlike. My son that he understands exactly what you're saying recited way which is perfect his expressive languages. Basically not the. He does sunshine but just really careful. Not to talk in front of kids with disabilities sammy. I've had people say old. He's racing rather will. What does he think but it you know. Does he saying or you know. Just don't talk if you need to talk to parents about child with disabilities. I talk to them individually not with the child right there understand more eating dome. It's still just a matter of courtesy. Yeah that's really helpful it gives again. They're not engaging with you verbally so you assume that they can't understand you break right but that's not the case usually so awesome any what else anything else. We've missed that you are. Make sure we we cover before we wrap up. I think if i just told harris divided how parents of children autism is delays. I would probably just tom hanging in there. Because it gets the point. Where i was in the other day and jay was by my side and i kind had his arm and he was making noises and rock and a little bit and the lady looked at and said well. That must be really hard. And i said what and she goes. We'll just as though. I'm okay with it wasn't i didn't even recognize what she was saying. She was talking about from minnesota. Where you're you're able isolate through the grace of the savior as economy. Something like beneath fights where the burns burden weren't taken away. But they were made stronger town. And i just think out Courage parents hang in there especially the first few years because better and last question. i have That are typically ask. Is you know this is a form of leadership being a parent and obviously being a bishop off with a disability specialist in. Not but how is. Your time is apparent to attic son. Helped you become a better follower. Of jesus christ awesome. I was afraid of asking. He's just made me realize how how how someone is different than us. I don't think i would have sought out this live curb. I don't think i would have been an advocate for special. Needs kids or anything without experiencing that some people do it naturally in her drawn to kids like this. I don't think i would have may be more exciting. A people that are different and and try to include everyone. It's always easy to when you go to the young man's activity to hang out kid. Who's the aycell horseback. But the kid is in a wheelchair is a little more difficult. Takes a little bit more more effort. So i think it's made me more accepting more able to reach out to people like that. That concludes my interview with stand. Bakley big shadow to him and his son. Jake really appreciate him sharing his perspective. Here to the leading saints audience. I would love to know. Obviously we didn't cover it all in thirty minutes. I mean this is just one experience right. There's more content that we could create around this topic. And so whether you are a parent of a special needs individual or a disability specialist in your ward or award. That's really figured out how to do that. Well i would love to hear from you. So go to leading saints dot org slash contact and send a message. Let us know who else we should interview about this topic. Where even like an expert who are the. Phd's out there individuals who've done the research to better help us make a place for special needs individuals in our wards in our church in our worship in our communities. Whatever it is. I'd love to hear from you about that as well and remember text. The word lead to four seven. Four seven four seven in urge to access the three free sessions of the lgbt saints. It came as a result of the position of leadership which was imposed upon us by the god of heaven who brought forth a restoration of the gospel of jesus christ and when the declaration was made concerning the own and only true and living church on the face of the earth we were immediately put in a position of loneliness loneliness of leadership from which we cannot shrink nor runaway and which we must face up with boldness and courage and ability.

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Bodies In Barrels & Killer Killed

Bad In The Boondocks

48:55 min | 2 years ago

Bodies In Barrels & Killer Killed

"Own Today's episode we discuss the snow town murders as well as Wayne Nance. You're listening to bad in the Boon docks baby in a pol bad in non Hey and welcome to bad in the boondocks walks as always one of your host. Stan and I am drew. Audi and we're so glad that you're here. I do want to mention really quickly quickly the little contest e thing that we have going on which we've had to injuries so far you all you have to do who is going to the platform that you're using rate and review us and take a snapshot of it and email it too too bad in the boondocks at Gmail Dot com that way you will be in a raffle that we will be having in probably two weeks and and we will randomly pick someone out to get a free t shirt mailed free to you and a bumper sticker. I think what else I can. Neither I thought for a little bit. I thought that's what you were mouth that I think a sticker to okay. I'm thinking maybe a magnet instead. I'M GONNA purchase a magnets today. Okay Um who you WANNA. 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Look bad in the boondocks like our page because today were having night which by the time y'all here it will probably be already over with yeah but we're having a little facebook live today who and it went great and it was great because you're listening to it. After one person was their year nanny all right well. Let's go ahead and get right on intuitive. You want to okay do believe it's my turn to go. I E S. It is all right well. I am going to try to tackle the snow town murderers. I hope he's okay this fine US David as he said you're going to tackle. Oh my God anyway yeah so Corny Australia's they've definitely only seen their fair share of horrible murders and murderers but none can quite compare to what is known as the snow town murders or the bodies in barrels murders not only were the actual killings and torture insanely horrific but the fact that the victims were relatives neighbors awesome brands will that gives it a one up on the creep scale. What were these murders. The snow town murders refer to the murders of of twelve however eleven convictions people in South Australia between August nineteen ninety two and May of nineteen ninety nine the murders were brought to light when the remains of eight victims were found in barrels of acid located in a rented former former bank in Snow Town South Australia on May twentieth of Nineteen Ninety nine. This town is in the mid north of South Australia or about one hundred Richard and forty five kilometers north of Adelaide. Even the snow town is generally tied to the murders. It's important to note that the bodies had been held out at various locations around Adelaide for years before they were moved to the snow town location. Also only one victim was murdered in snow town and none one of the victims or perpetrators were from snow town. Okay so in a bank vacant bank vault eight bodies were found in barrels on May Twentieth Nineteen Ninety nine then three days later two bodies were discovered buried in a backyard and Saleh's Berry North North a suburb north of Adelaide assumes good sounds Verse Day prior to both of these remains being found two other other bodies had already been linked to the group. What group you ask why didn't ask but I saw him. E solid in yes well. Total of four people were arrested and charged with the murders now. I'm going to introduce you to these losers known as the Snow Town Hiller killers the I do spag is John Justin bunting who was born in nineteen sixty six in a Nala Queensland Dan he was convicted of murdering all victims except one bunting is widely considered to be the ringleader of the group and he's the perfect type HYPOC person for this job he was categorized as being a good listener kind compassionate and empowering at least from the outside he had a knack for talking to people befriending them and then making them feel so connected to him that they would do just about anything that he asked however underneath underneath it all live the classic serial killer traits he was abused as a kid and he became absolutely fascinated with weapons and and causing pain yeah but just because you're abused doesn't mean that you turned into a killer no however the majority of killers were were abused as yes but there are times right at or abused in are just fine forensic psychiatrist interest. Kevin how wolves has indicated that buntings behavior suggests that he lacks emotion and lacks the capacity for empathy he states that bunning derive of satisfaction from controlling victims now bondings favorite childhood pastime was burning insects and acid and as a teenager he was was a neo Nazi. Those very upstanding citizens yeah he wants killed a friend's dog and then became fascinated with anatomy then during adulthood bunning work as at a crematorium with human bodies he also killed and skinned cats and then even even bragged about how much he enjoyed slaughtering animals next up. We have Robert Joe Wagner a troubled young man who became friends with bunning in nineteen ninety. One Wagner was illiterate and had been beaten a lot by father who was a strict disciplinarian. He was was fascinated by buntings. Charisma and power bunning encouraged him to assist in the murderers in Wagner complied readily then there was more Mark Ray Haydon. Thank it Hayden. He was not convicted of any of the murders but he did plead guilty to helping the killers to dispose of the bodies. James Lusaka's gradually became involved in the murder and torture now. James met Bunny when when his and Troy's mother moved in with bunting both he and his brother had been sexually abused as children by Father James was later abused by his half-brother troy he later became the crown star witness Thomas Trevelyan. I think that's how you pronounce any of these named. I think that's how you pronounce. Memphis not so sorry he helped with the murder of Berry Lane in nineteen ninety seven but he was murdered by the gang before police became involved. We then have Lisbeth Harby rb. She was the last White Fla Sakis mother. Yeah she knew about the murders and she even help one of them. She later died of cancer. During the investigation. I got guests unlucky but lucky you know but I guess you did get across out murder from her bucket. List List Wow bunning moved into the sallis Berry North home in Nineteen ninety-one quickly became friends with Wagner and his boyfriend and Barry Lane and also more Hayden. All who live near one another the various victims were hastily chosen by bunning gene by imagined wrongdoings his main hate was for pedophile house and he didn't distinguish the difference between pedophile and being gay he a he everybody that was gay pedophile him some were murdered because bunning suspected did them of being one usually just because of a rumor other victims were killed because of a dislike for obese people or drug users or for simply simply being gay which is weird considering his friends yeah exactly almost all of the victims were friends or acquaintances of one of the group. The others were relative. Sometimes they even were living in the same house with one of the killers most of the time victim Social Security and bank info impose war obtained and the killers would impersonate the victims to collect pensions. It's known that ninety seven thousand two hundred dollars were obtained this way. The last of the murders was done in the bank building after the barrels had been moved there for storage see one just keep were they. Were you know I guess maybe they were. It was like getting they may be to me before coming around and they just kinda moved them around because they would move them light from his share in the backyard. Somebody else's house well I mean I think it would have been better off just leaving them where they were. You know maybe they want well. They put it in the vault in bank vault in it was just a dead building in a tiny town modest. Somebody how we get there. We won't get there on we go their son okay. I'll write reflecting on the scene that was uncovered the bank one officer said Jesus. It was a scene from the from the worst nightmare nightmare you ever had. I don't think any of us was prepared for what we saw and now they do have some people that come from the South in Australia and that was that exit us can't do all right. The building was littered with tools that were used by the killers killers to torture and murder the victim. Some of these were knives assault covered with blood a double barrel shotgun coils of rope rolls of tape rubber gloves cloths and a very metallurgic tool. The killers used to administer electric shocks walks to the genitals and other sensitive parts of the victim's body. you know bad that would hurt. What are you were? Just feel it on your finger anger in the new just like Oh my God that hurt the feel it on your nuts and they just thought your penis would be though it'd be awful. All such tools were also found in the bank vault. A pathologist later revealed that extensive torture had also been US using everyday tools such as pinchers pliers and clamps all of these such tools were also found in the bank vault with blood on the victims were also forced to call their torturers. God Master Chief Inspector and Lord Sir. Yes some asked a lot sir now. We're GONNA meet the Victims Clinton Tras Zayas. How're you was twenty two years old? He was found buried in a shallow grave in nineteen ninety four he was killed in buntings teens living room after being invited over by Bundy while watching TV on the couch bunning attack and with a shovel which not trees is face down on the floor then bunning bash him in the back of the head with a shovel with such force over and over and over that the front run his skull was also fractured in multiple places. Ray Davies was twenty six years old now. He was mentally really handicapped. Man That lived in a caravan in the back yard of Suzanne Alan which was an acquaintance of Bunting Davies became a target after Suzanne accused him of being a pedophile he was graded with rope and a tire lever that was of course after after he had been placed in a bath and attacked with clubs repeatedly beaten on his genitals and had a tow crushed with a pair suppliers. You know that movie that the guy was had his legs spread open in the other not not like and then the other dude can incite oh the day. Are you sure it's not that time. You make one man like spread opened other maintain. I didn't meanwhile I know. The guy had this gigantic hole rice. It was Jack can't y'all hurt. I mean to make it sound you keep saying Bagel. Wow how added we talking about hammers. Oh viggo him. Oh can hammer okay and then he just no he didn't chauvet any you just did it up and then he just did swung back in pal right there remember that movie it was horrid now. We did not watch that movie together. How what are you talking about. Whatever porn you go from on like some kind of Spartans crap. I don't know all right this furthest point that that extra anybody movie and recognizes what I'm saying. Please email us. Elizabeth Harvey was there for this and even stabbed him in the leg multiple times with a plastic tool after dying. His body was dumped in a hole in buntings back your orange classic tool. Yes it was like a spike plan but it was plastic work. No not a sport lack low plas almost like one of the the things you have tents and stuff like steak plastic steak. That would actually pretty bad her would because he did. She did it in the front of his leg to like where your bonus Steph oh. How did it even go through the bone. It was next to it. okay Davies. He was never even reported missing facing Suzanne Allen. She was forty seven years old and she was ops with bunting and they had a sexual relationship. If if you know what I mean yes I do. However bunting grew tired of her obsession? Suzanne was found later her body dismembered and wrapped wrapped in plastic bags on top of David's in a grave and buntings garden after her death. The group continued to collect her pension checks and this this is the one that they were like that bunny was not convicted of the jury couldn't decide line not because they claimed that they found her dead of a heart attack and then they just dismembered her body and buried it but they didn't killer so while it was not even trod odd for anything else don't to her body because that's best like what is called after the person standing you all. Oy tampering with a crime scene. I don't know something with a corpse dismembering a Michael Gardner. He was just nineteen years old. He was an openly gay man who had been abused by family friend. When he was young no sale he didn't get killed. His father resented him because of his sexual orientation tation bunting and Wagner abducted Gardner and took him to a shed and the backyard of buntings house. They then tied him up tortured him and strangled him. He was killed because bunning suspected he was a pedophile. After murdering Gardner his killers hack took his body and put them in a barrel in the shed Barry Lane he was forty two years old and he was a gay man and a cross dresser answer that had been in a relationship with Wagner when bunning I met once lane and Wagner split up the lane was fair game name. Lane had all of his toes crushed then they beat him before finally strangling him. His body was also dismembered bird before being put in a barrel. No the the what do you call that word out say pain but I won't say pain. It's what is it called a thing. It's like a d damn pain yeah and about keeping your toast crush delirious. You'd be delirious is like a pair of pliers. All all McCartney your frigging bone. I think you're just body would just go into shock after that. I don't know if you'd feel anything else after that. I would hope that my body went into shock. Nextwave Thomas is rep violent. 's Rabih Leeann look. He was eighteen years old same age. I M mentally disabled shut up shut up said he was found hanging from a tree in Adelaide hills. I it was all he had committed suicide however he had helped in the murder of Barry Lane but afterwards he was killed because he discussed the crime with others and he was appearing would schizophrenic. Wow you know find hangings almost the worst type of only because you have yourself there unless if you break your secured killer you have to sit there and watch the person dangle for minutes until they're dead something else might be. Would somebody out love love a but I love it. No I tried to find a actress. Try to find stories on I can't I can't find I'm by stories Jeevan achieving videos video story something so that I I would allow though I thought I knew you John. I think that's fascinating. I might have to look up under his dad. Mattress gotten Bam Bam on the couch. The phrase ace asleep and on couch comes from me. You've had quite a few bids that you don't want sleep you memorize but don't be saying like we don't have you bid. Gavin Porter he was he was twenty nine years old. He was a heroin addict schizophrenic and a friend of Lead Attics Bladder Casse. Wow thanks for that belt J. He was killed because bonding was pricked by syringe that he had left on the couch. She was strangled in his car while he was kind of passed out slash sleeping. Thus pretty messed up troy you he was twenty one years old and he was Bolus Akis half brother he was dragged and this is the this is the half half-brother that supposedly molested him he was dragged from his bed before being murdered and this this was actually the first murdered that blessed he's participated in. Fred Brooks was eighteen years old. He was intellectually disabled. He was the son of a woman in love with bunting. He was chosen simply because because he was an easy victim. After being invited over to buntings house he was horrifically tortured until Dad Brooks was administered administered electric shocks to both his penis and testicles and after all of his toes were crushed and his nose and ears were burned with cigarettes. He had a burning sparkler pushed down into the tip of his penis genus. God He was then allowed choke to death by his gag while Gary O'Dwyer fire was twenty nine years old. He was disabled from a previous car accident and was on a pension unlike the others dwyer. He was actually a stranger and he was chosen because he was just an easy target. He was murdered in his own home by Bunting Wagner and Blackie's. You know never mind. I'll now in say what because I had never run out of is going to say don't Miss Expensive Catheter but never mind well so far closer pretty cheap yeah that is true but sparks. Elizabeth Hayden was thirty seven years old and the wife of Mark Haydon. You know the guy who helped dispose of the bodies. She was killed by bunting in Wagner in her home. When mark was out David Johnson was twenty four years old and he was Fla Sakis half brother. This is the only victim that was actually killed in Snow Town Johnson had pieces of his flesh sliced off of his body in which were then fried and eaten by bunting and Wagner Bunting was extremely upset that he had died so quickly while so he wanted to have some fun with after he died which is why he ate part of the sounds good deed on the bodies in barrels. I'm not even acknowledging that Short. I'm on a diet. No flesh this The bodies in barrels were stored in several different places before finally being moved to the bank vault in snow town. They were once stored in a shed behind buntings house else in April of nineteen ninety eight then later in nineteen ninety eight three barrels stored there were moved to Hayden's property then five barrels filled with bodies as were stored in a Toyota landcruiser in Hoyle Whitson. A six barrel with a body was stored into a Mitsubishi Sigma Sigma. Finally the vehicles were moved to Stowe town where the barrels were stored in a bank vault that was being rented by Hayden even though he was using a fake name more Lawrence Lawrence to rent the movement of unknown vehicles and Snow town which is a very small town of a few hundred were things is like that or noticed and the loading activity and unloading activity of the old bank led to a search of the main building the main building that I build the by the way you said a search at the bank building because because they brought back Tim yes exactly that'd be like us going in Springfield and light driving some unknown cars at night and start unloading barrels girls in the vacant building. You know somebody like what is going on air by being would not yet I would. They would now if you Norway and branch would when suspicious barrels were discovered the bodies found inside were mummy fan. Okay okay that was error on the killer sport though because saves all the evidence they had put acid in the barrels to dissolve them however they chose to use hydrochloric acid and that only mummified remains instead get rid of any wrong type of acid exactly the first of the accused to be since was blessed. He's he was given four life sentences in June twenty first two thousand one after he pleaded pleaded guilty to four murders bunting Hayden and Wagner pleaded not guilty to ten counts of murder the trial for Wagner and bunting began October fourteenth of two thousand and two but it wasn't long and there were problems with the jury one member of the jury refused to continue to the horror of the evidence however some sources report that three jury members quit for this same reason nonetheless both bunning and Wagner were found guilty on September timber eighth two thousand and three bunting was convicted of eleven murders while Wagner who had ended up pleading guilty to three murders was convicted of seven murders the WanNa on not plead guilty Leno. They were sentenced to life on each count to be served cumulatively. Who've Louis after the judge stated that there was no hope for rehabilitation for them. Hayden however was not convicted of any murders but ended up with being convicted did of seven counts of assisting offenders do that would just suck he had been charged with two counts of murder but the jury could not ever reach a verdict on that as far as the torch budding and wagner concerning the death of Suzanne Alan it was dropped when a jury was unable to reach a verdict they have all all exhausted all their chances for appeal and all work denied the okay so the God they got seven counts of assisting a whatever you call it a killer basically. Does he get a chance to get out the possibly or like dino fees already on the he's not okay. I'm just making sure all right. Do you have story forced. I today was very disturbing case. I think all of our cases or disturbing yeah anything also with murders disturbing compound it very disturbing the things I learned about you today no on just saying like the things that I learned and then there was thank you know you're how wow and then there was that movie sinister in. Oh my God it was so scary. Hell Hell or you talking to hang him from the tree. The family only was hanging from the tree and I was like Oh my God. That's something else in a yes something. Of course I've got a story. You got not something your hair right here. What is white but almost got it was species. Snow Smell town. Yeah whatever okay well anyways. I am going to be doing when you do. I'm not going to be doing among going to be discussed talking. I'm going to be discussing Wayne Nance. This is a strange case in itself because well. You've never sort of really heard of a killer that was killed buys victim except poor up the candy man. I know that but I'm saying Dan never really so. You're sort of saying like you've sort of. You're sort of not really heard a lot of times. Yes thank you but that's exactly what happened to weigh. Nance in nineteen eighty six just a few years after my birth the that y'all were some messed up right behind you on it. It was always missed that post drugs failures because almost every single one cones around the ages yeah yea eight exact messed up people wayne was born in Missoula Montana in nineteen fifty five. His mother was a waitress actress and his father was a truck driver. They lived in a mobile home on the very edge of town Wayne grade in school but everybody that Neum uh-huh said that he had a very hot temper and he was a troublemaker he flew thirst. Golan graduated with ease but you know that one kid that he's a little weird eared. You're just not sure about him but everybody seems to like him name. Everyone signed like me but Kinda what talk obamacare whatever well that was way a few houses down from the Nance family with the pounds family Donovan Harvey Pound or the parents of Kinney Koran and Kathy now didn't put the ages because I'm not exactly sure how Kenya's but he he's in the military so he's in the twenties at least at least eighteen true Donna worked at a Christian bookstore in Missoula and Harvey worked at a clothing store for men. Harvey was the daycare at the church the BETHEL Baptist Church so the family was very religious so he was a pound and Deacon Yeah. That's true April Eleventh Nineteen seventy four over what's the giggling a horrific act agitates and brownies unsigned or horrific act had occurred harvey and Karen Karen were at work. Cathy was at school and Kinney was away in the army leaving Donna by herself. A man walked into the house by Donna was in her bedroom drew. He grabbed Harvey Twenty Two caliber German pistol you know assuming that he knew where it was which did obviously he saw don and herbage remember member us towards her at your tongue or up with clothesline they had brought and gagging her. He raped her after he finished raping very through her underneath underneath the stairs in the basement and shot five times in the back of the head of the skate wasn't too shabby because he left a witness who who said they saw Wayne in the backyard of the pounds residents the same day Donna was killed says the pound family and the Nance family you know lived in the same vicinity of course Wayne went over to the house frequently to hang out. That's how new were Harvey's gone was scalped. Police came came along in the neighborhood and starting questioning different residences they came to the Nance residence in question Wayne in which he replied applied that he had been sick and bit O'Day while the police thought that this story was bullshit and took it upon themselves to acquire a search warrant at you. They said it's both exactly bullshit. They found a pair of underwear belonging eight to Wayne that had blood on them and had been washed recently. Okay first of all lemon juice. I give him props for washing his underwear underwear but I don't think that's anything strange. Yes people recently wash underwear after they wear expecially if there's blood in them and there could be blood in far. I hope you don't know he could be he could also be having some serious crabs that are causing some blood going on he could have tried tried to trim his. Bush and accidentally cut himself he could have all it is true but they were covered in blood so it makes you question how they were covered. They don't know how he yeah dentis Jesus Christ. That's a good point thank you maybe. Wayne was annette in all reality was Wayne had he was on the dot but they had no physical evidence against him because the boy underwear could not be identified. Wayne was a matrix suspect but so was harvey. It was found at the time of the murder. You're that Harvey was having an affair. Oh but police could not find evidence against him either. It wasn't looking good for the investigation Gatien at this time having to likely suspects but no evidence while the trail went cold another body turned up in nineteen seventy nine by Gra or for railroad workers. She was badly decomposed near. I Ninety Emma Soula. She was white and wearing a flowery dress. The poor woman had been raped and stabbed to death police. Try to identify her but failed so she was has given the name. Betty be prevail by WHO by the police couldn't find the name so that just so wadded their name or beaver tail. I don't now listen the police reports that she would not call our Jiang. Dave the name because because there's multiple people dead so you sorta like Jane Doe to John Three better than Jane DOE and Jane Doe Doda Betty Beaver tail that is also true quite vulgar is sorta as it sounds like an insult does not lie did she have. I don't beaver tail as she lifts. Does she live down. All this tear was taking place. Name was getting all lovey-dovey in the summer of nineteen eighty four with a woman named Robin. That was a good year two years ago. They stayed together living a masseuse lot till September then they decided to leave town through the woods of Mosul about three months. After the couple left another body was found by a wildlife photographer for sure and let me just tell you when they say that that usually a creep they are not out there looking at wildlife. They're looking through the people's windows that could be true but you never know walk through the woods when he noticed a human foot sticking out of the ground. It was a grizzly site for the police. Another poor woman did in their town placed him at what Suzy's quarrel of course after being examined. She also cannot be identified while cautious discworld but she had been shot in the head theory. Tom's uh-huh until recognizable so I mean you know they didn't have too much identification would call quicken no they don't have it like the DNA through searches have to look at them really but you know you sort they do check through ooh there the missing persons list and try to find it but you know nothing comb. Carolina all my Gosh. Is this Betty Boop for tail. They gave her the nickname debbie deer creek now timber nineteen eighty five where was this. This is a Masud Law. Montana Montana God bless y'all listener stutter from there now in September nineteen eighty five year came little Bayer Hunter Almog God's we've had railroad workers railroad workers and then a fricken nature quote on quote photographer Dogra Taga for now. They are hunter. Will what was he doing in the woods. I think well not really in the woods but he was looking for some bears until he tripped Dover Collection of scattered bones on a hillside in west Masud La Gosh cash police searched the area finding the woman skull declaring that she had been shot two times in the head. This woman was dubbed Christie Crystal Krieg because she could not be identified. Although police did suspect she may have been Asian because the way your teeth or match those of Asian ethnicity and our is you know sort of that that just a little a little bit so it sort of made it seem like when she's not no you to a she already has been insulted. I think they're cute. They're on Crystal Crystal River. Victims were like or might in Teresa shook shook it. All there were married couple and had three children on December twelve nineteen eighty five family. Were just finishing finishing up dinner when they heard a loud knock at the door. Thank thing or put on splint say the Mike left from the kitchen to go open on the door and winning did a man jumped towards him with a butcher knife stabbing him until no longer alive. Teresa didn't really know what to do so she's she's just stood there. In shock on what you do is you turn around and yell ask us to run. That's what you won't leave. Your kids the Hail L. on my. I know that you would leave me by no need for me to be dead. I ain't GonNa good today and you know what they say. Kids that grow up without without parents. They don't turn out good. Some of them were Elaine's need for both the gloss is fine. It's rare that you tell you Orlando as I go by you. I'M GONNA get out get out but I can't stop and pick you up and running out the frick in jumping out the window breaking award the main grafter knocked her down and then joker into the bedroom where she was tied up screaming for alive he rate in an stabbed her to death. If she had ram the three children I assume this isn't one hundred percent certain but I think that they may have ran into the bedrooms or a bedroom or another room and just let them live even though they got a side of how how all the children they were young. young will younger like enough wall and ruined but just younger. They weren't like like teenagers. They were just younger right okay. After he finished the kill he set the house on fire with the children and the children tomato out safely though because they ran out of Suny set on fire. I mean but Wayne got hisself. A job. S A delivery driver for CONLON's furniture. MISSOULA is manager was Chris Wells. A married woman who Wayne ahead developed a crush on Chris and her husband Doug returning home one night in September nineteen eighty six when doug spotted something and it looked like a ghost star man's standing in Chard will win out to bear when he got out the look. He found John Wayne in the bushes jacking off. Oh guess what guess what Wayans response was jet came. He came he saw he saw a figure resembling a man looking into their win holy shit and he was trying to use the same excuses the so he basically said that right. You thought you saw a man I aw aw man dug in Wayne walked inside whereas my penis and my hand was going to shoot him the doug and Wayne walked inside and when Doug went to go get a flashlight. He struck him over the head with his gun. He began gone quote unquote. He began to bleed out instantly doug grabbed Wayne as they fail to the floor in two struggled for a bit for just wiebe it away bet wayne them managed to get up and pointed the gun at Chris- Christmas the wife just in case you didn't know because knows Chris when she came running in to see what was going on. He forced Christie Todd dogs hands and feet up then he taught purrs and drugger two bedroom where he taught her to the bed with Chris being taught up he went to go deal with Doug dragging him into the basement untying his neck to a metal pole he went back upstairs. got a butcher knife from the kitchen and stag stabbed dug in and the chest just missing his heart would really by like nothing. Hardly you know but anyways Wayne thought he was dead so he started. How did this way back up. The stairs to the bedroom where Christmas Doug was not dead though and have broken free from the ties so he we grabbed his wife rifle from the basement and made his way upstairs at the top of the stairs he saw Wayne and what she shot and he hit him in the side. He tried to get back up but failed and he died there. Chris and Doug were quickly taken the hospital where they survive police investigated further Amr bill. This is a frigging shocker ear. You won't hear it. It's a shocker remember member Robin. Oh okay this is a shocker. You Act so enthused will go ahead and lower anyways it. They revealed that sixteen year old. Moore seat button had went missing from our home in Vancouver. Now who is marcie she had went missing from our home in Vancouver. No one knew what could have happened to her in two thousand six better. DNA testing was done to the victim victim Debbie Deer Creek your member her and it was revealed that she was Marcy Bachman but it doesn't end there. You remember the woman name name Robin that that was Wayne's girlfriend. This was Morsi am right. After they had left the town of Masuda he killed her and dumped her body. There saw Robin was marks. Yep and Debbie Deer Creek so it all added a police found evidence in this home that linked him to her murder and six others. Betty beaver Tail God was identified as Devante Nelson a fourteen year old girl who had ran away from her home cautiously for young people Yano our thinking they were also but they said like young woman because I didn't know really how they were because they were just bones or they didn't tell Christy Crystal Creek well. She's still on identify to stay. It is not certain how many people Wayne in actually killed but there was evidence linking him to Christy Crystal Creek smarter and other murders Emma Soula Montana and that's my story. That was great wasn't it. That was something else that was good. That was something else I cannot believe. Robbin poor rob him because I was wondering like what the world happened her while he was doing all this and I was thinking who may be he just sort of left you know while while she was alive at work or something but no no way no way no way it was deer creek you know she was Debbie. DEB Odidi. Oh Debbie poor things that torture twist details Ford bad for both I feel bad acis people for all the victims is given names by the police in your store in those pretty pretty messed up. I don't really know why they came up with those names. I don't know but it was. I don't know I our really couldn't tell you to be honest with you but that was great. Dude totally radical we all we love that you stay tuned till the very end whoever still listed what now on Kirk urban anyway please go and give us a writing in review and then just take snap shot of it. 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#034 Lars Ulrich (Metallica) interview from 1997

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#034 Lars Ulrich (Metallica) interview from 1997

"Welcome back to the Tapes Archive podcast where we release interviews that have never been heard before in this episode we have metallic co founder and Drummer Lars Ulrich, at the time of this interview in Nineteen, ninety-seven Orrick was thirty four years old, and was promoting the band's concert date in Indianapolis in the interview, Lars Talks about METALLICA's songwriting process, the weirdest encounter he has ever had with a fan what motivates him and the Internet be a frightening instrument. We gotta right from a real fan I used to sleep with. His grandmother never listen to our music again. As always have music critic. Mark Our at the home conducting the interview. If you'd like to support the show, please like follow and subscribe to us on Facebook, Youtube, twitter and instagram their post, other content and information not available on the podcast. If you'd like to read the transcripts for any of our episodes. Please head over to our website at the tapes archive DOT COM will jump into the interview after a quick word from our sponsors. The tapes archive is proud to be sponsored by the true crime documentary deadman's line. Around you're trying to get a shot at mate. I'm. Go down to be on the phone. I went down there for Benjamin. Nineteen seventy seven Tony Koets is. The mortgage broker and held him captive for three days the first time ever. The media was able to cover the event live to some. He was a hero to others. He was a crazed son. deadman's line, the true story of Tony Caridi says. This award winning film is available exclusively on Amazon prime. One last thing before we get to the interview, the tapes archived. PODCAST is a proud member of Cyrus, media community, connecting passionate fans with podcast and experiences about artists and topics involved. Thanks for tuning in, and now it's time to open the. Cargo. So. Is it true that that your wedding song was? Pat Boone's version of Venture San Matt. Thank you. Thank you for rafting. I? Don't want honestly I. Don't remember it was four in the morning. I just remember when I saw the video back of the wedding. That was my mom eldest for having by in my pocket when bears. Other than that was I'm glad we did it. That way well congratulations. Thank you appreciate it. And and how about this Pat Boone version of this. Have you heard what I've got to tell you? I'm going against I can already tell from talking to a few radio station stuff like that? There seems to be some kind of. Hostility building up towards is, but I mean I don't know what people are scared of guys like. So. UNTHREATENING I mean. Do you know what I mean? I think he's great I bet him at the Ama's the other day. He was really nice. He was really funny. It was really friendly and I think he done one of the more interesting versions of one of our songs that I've ever heard because most. Version said. Are Songs end up big something. That's very on abandoned to and. and very close to the bone at at least for different I think it's really cool. Okay I, I thought. He totally missed the point, but It's to me. It sounds like a cheerful song the way he does it. I think that you gotta give I mean anytime. Anybody takes any type of creative piece of work or whatever it is, and at least all it and puts in their own. Flavor, their own interpretation of then whether I mean when we miss the point, the non I mean that's almost relevant to because who who's who's to say what the point is anyway Alabama this stuff you know what I mean, but at least if you, if you add your own flavor to anything that's I think that's has value and I think that he did that for few of the people who have interpreted abusive who have done that. I think that's always what this thing. I definitely specked out a lot. A couple of songs I wanted to ask you about from the new album My two favorites are a hero of the day and Momma said I, think they have the the tension and fear that I always like about metallica music. Can you tell me anything in particular about those songs? Songs because there are probably the ones that most of our fans who? that. Anymore, but most of our Fanta by would save. Those are definitely the two oddball hero. Day is probably the first song that we've ever done in a major key. That has the debates of musical. Passages through the versus and a lot of people are saying that has served almost. Tendencies to or something like that it was something that came from Kirk, and was an idea that was one of his tapes and the James. Interpreted turns it into a song. Almost said. was something that was on one of James's tapes that initially on the first batch tapes that he gave me. It was non there, and then he gave me a tape later on into the songwriting process, and that was on there. And I said that I really liked it. You know the kind of skill. The and he said that he was kind of worried or whatever because he didn't really. METALLICA at off or not. And I said. What are you worried about? If it's if it's on a metallica record, Michigan you it in the four of us play on it then. I think qualifying the talent. It's obviously also one of those things that are fairly different. People have been saying thing about the country's influence and stuff like that was never a parent be until the first journalist heard started commenting of that, I thought it was another song. Now I can hear how people can interpret it that way, but you're right I mean those songs very booty, and certainly have some some nice tensions in and stuff, and that's pretty cool. The? The line in Mama set about the brightest flame burns the burns out quickest I guess that's not always true. Look at metallic all right. Mama wasn't always right. Mama does get paid to always be right. Got A, pretty high batting average. Is that pretty typically how you right? They give you instrumental stuff and you you put the words to. Know we work. We work a lot with tapes as what we do and so being. James Sort of end up being the receiving end of all these tapes from everybody. and. I'll sit down and those James. The James sit down with the other kinds of tastes. And we pick out the best parts. We worked very much was part something? Sort of parts and big turned into songs and then songs in getting word to them at age. It's pretty unusual process, even just because the fact that obviously the corn drummers, it is pretty involved in. We have a tendency to develop songs from sort of. Ideas that just kinda service is really not anything that's ever written. A song stays as a song. It's like here's the part that gets married to another part that gets married to this guy's par. Then we throw in this chord progression, and then we go to a half temple thing, or do you know what I mean? It's Kinda sit down and puts words to James. Those most of that. Kind of a pretty unusual process, so it's possible that the two three four songs from these tapes might end up as one song on an album Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, vegetable back to our early stuff. You can hear how a lot of that stuff is really the pieces of songs the force together which is I think pretty much started getting away from after injustice for all yeah, that makes sense. Now as listener, because that's that is what it sounds like, but I never theater. You just never would think that happened that way that things were put together to piece together that way, so that's yeah. That's amazing Forced thing, and now it's a lot less force. We keep the songs a lot more plastic here. Our local alternative radio station this weekend is doing a mandatory metallica weekend. He'll and and I'm thinking you, must you guys must be laughing at this stuff I've. Always laughing well, yeah. That's true. You are one of the lighter spirits and rock. To appreciate that. But I mean this is just got to be so funny to to see. The this embraced this whole nonsense. This whole discussion is metallic. Alternative foot is this. Just goes to prove I mean if anything that. That the things we've always talked about were so insignificant. Continue to be insignificant. which are the things about dividing music into groups and Forcing. Tags and Dame's and separations between different music forms and. I I think it's something that. A lot of people feel that they need. But, I think that as time has been going on in the last few years, a lot of people realizing that it's maybe not as necessary as it used to be. That these divisions between not only bands of the music would also the people who join the band music, maybe starting to erode somewhat compared to where it was ten years ago or twenty years ago and I. think that's pretty good. Saying very healthy thing. Of course, it's funny in some way and of course. You could also sit down and say. Of course METALLICA's to be played turn of radio stations, because in some way we were ten years ago, we were one of the I will turn it ban. So, I mean you can almost slice and dice it any way you want to. You can always sit down and say that it's funny because why we played on alter station, but can years ago. Do you know what I mean. It's sort of like almost no matter what point of view you come in with. It the whole up or dozen, and it's almost sort of a relevant at the end. It's just how people interpret what you do and Knob certainly never going to tell anybody. How to interpret anything I, do and I really just you know. Let people deal with that, and however they want to agree with you on this point it's it's irrelevant. Because good music is good music, it should be played no matter what I mean, no matter what you call it. Everybody should hear it. And maybe that's what if Lollapalooza proved anything last summer. Maybe that's what it proved right, but I hope on this sounds kind of Corny, and it sounds a little simple when you say, there's only two kinds of music, really good music group music almost how I feel it. It's a little bit of a of a sort of Cornwall. Tro are sort of reached, corny but. It's you know I mean. I think musicians are the ones that are sometimes most of the Times fighting categorization, also than anybody, and between the critics, and between the fans that they kind of seem to try and divide everything else into. Categories and stuff like that which is fine, but it doesn't have to dorset tra- critics. It's I guess it's somewhat of a necessary evil, because you have to try to describe what you've heard for the idea that because it's a circuit kind of music should somebody shouldn't listen to. Charitable thing about what we all right now that as music gets more and more intertwined and more and more multi-colored and multidimensional that become vessel less easy to segregate from the next thing. And I think that's a great thing. Because you have these people, sit there. You know you listen to ban like black rape, or or whatever you say, you know wanted to stat. Let me sit down and ten minutes later. Still have no idea what the hell. Rap. Music Dances at rock. You know what I mean. Yeah, and that's just a great thing was from one of the questions about this and that is weird. Did this idea come from you? Guys were going alternative. I mean who said that because it sound because it's obviously not true. I mean load is a pretty typical metallica album I'd said. I think that you have to look for the Internet. Some of the stuff I think that. Has. Much good at the heart of the people can tap into this type of information and sort of chat, so we saw the way that you can't die. There's also certainly some kind of negative. Connotations to which is that basically any idiot with a computer can post something on the Internet and within fifteen minutes later. It's a half truth that circulated around the world. It's a pre frightening instrument academic people. Already judging our record, you know I was sitting sort of while we're finishing record. The studio reading sort of almost refused to the record on a daily basis before with even done while I was still finishing the record. You know what I mean. And it's just it's a very strange beasts to deal with and I think that this whole thing about you know where it comes from some idiot somewhere associated factor. James hit feel cut his hair with something about feeding into the nineties or something like that, and then the next guy picked is being turn it of and author goes to brush, fires. I don't know where else to tell us over, so you've. That's about as close as you can trace it as the Internet I mean I think you have generally book to the Internet as that. It's almost like I think that the left hard information they have to work with the more silly. The rumors get you know what I mean, the more. Information, there is the West. Get sort of bent out of shape on some of these things that when you're tight, lipped about it, then the more ridiculous they end up becoming. And it's kind of an interesting pattern that goes there, so is it possible for I? mean the people who are commenting on the record while you're still making it. Do they actually know anything about the record, or are they just making stuff out there making star okay. You know the other place. The that I heard a lot. A lot of this record was ferrall on the bench. The sort show that Are you guys friends with him and stuff? I think it would depend on your turf at the word friends, certainly Nolan fairly well and had some fun times with him. I certainly do speak with him and definitely think he's pretty funny guy and when he was up in the bay area to We go to hockey games, and then we'd call him to give like reports. The Terrell the hockey games of way back from the game and stuff like that history there and it's. It's pretty classic to hear this stuff underneath. A sports report like that a lot. Pretty cool. Yeah, I mean. He was a guy. You know he is. He goes back to Atlanta about four five years ago. When he started the land, he was definitely doing something. That was very. Extreme and bird cool I think. Too Much of A kind of an open ended question here. What motivates you you do? Tons of press. You do a lot of things that you don't have to do and why. I mean I'm glad you do. because. We don't know any different. It's how we've always operated. We basically came up the classic European Way I think. which is the fact that you go out? And you don't get any airplay. Don't depend on the medium of radio. Get to across the go out and basically force what do down people's throats. you go out and plays many kicks. Can you do as many interviews as you can with print medium and try and jump on any opportunity to? Force what do down people's throats. That's what we did. The eighties and when radio finally braced this number nine. For some reason, we didn't stop forcing ourself down. People float to the power dealing with things. And I guess kind of stock I think we're certainly less manic about it that we used to be but i. mean when you asked me that point blank it's it's probably because it really is the way we know and we. We've always done things from what I understand. I was talking to corrosion of conformity publicist, and they said that all your good habits rubbing off on them because they're seeing. Because, they're seeing how. Rubbing off. No, but they're been. They're seeing what you should do how you should handle people how you deal with the press kind of thing. You. Know the so many people who just think. They're too good to talk to anybody that you know want a band like metallica comes along I. Mean it's. It's one of the few bands that you can actually count on to do the right thing. I would say joy, but some that we thought the all always has been a part of what we've done to show that you're doing just sounds pretty just unbelievable every night or you having like I mean. Do you have one stage that you're carrying or you leapfrogging so? It goes up and down every night. Thanks to about a good hundred people. Work for and It's pretty amazing. It's something I try not to think about because. It. Affects came over something going wrong. Terms of you know. Somebody has a flat tyre, the occasional snowstorm or something. Really fucked the whole thing up pretty good. I mean without sucking anybody off. We really had some of the best people over to on both sides of it and show goes up and down five times a week, and it's pretty amazing in itself. That even happens. That's. That is pretty stunning. just a couple of those things can the cover of the new out? This is a Serano peace, and did you pick Serano? Deliberately, or or did you just have a big? There was no hidden tend to start a revolution, or you know to turn anything upside down, or it was I. think we were going for something that was we've always had. The album title song titles. The covers everything sort of tie together. And we I think we were feeling that. We wanted to go board and Dutreuil that each thing. More their own entertaining. And we wanted an album sign the key much at a sort of visual. That really didn't have much to do song seven on the record or something, so we started getting an individual in as entities, and really like the image of Serano. That once. You're you're. You're fading. me a little bit. Through concrete here. Yep Still. So so there's no way image of if I if I look closely, there's no image of Jesus and urine and this. TIME WE GONNA. Just, keep looking. UPDATE WHEN? I! I wouldn't waste my time. You have other things to do okay. Call after what's his Fox? What is name Maybe, he can help you. Okay a couple of things the God that failed my favorite Metallica Song. Land the God. That failed the plots on this time, not this latest. War Yeah. Yeah, necessarily play at once, but you know you always hope that you played against. And for another story of a work unmasking everybody interview. What's the strangest funniest weirdest encounter you've ever had with your fans? I'm a I'm I'm losing you here. Yeah I haven't heard anything you said you. Say Okay. Well we have. Ways I'm losing you again, He's still there. Magazine called. So, what did we run out of our cook. And one of the contests I to judge was. Right anything that's METALLICA related. On a piece of paper and you know like any kind of short. You know any anything you want on any topic and some guy wrote. And a story about how he spent. Ten years of his life basic wishing he was be. Reading about being in every night and basically. Making himself, look like the acting like me. You're talking like the every night going to bed, wishing he could someday beat me. And I picked him to be the winner of the contest of. The contest. Prize was a visit to San Francisco to hang out with us, so he came out and hung out. There was like face to face with. The other being from Duluth Minnesota. Pretty, surreal that's frightening, Yeah Antigen. And how did he react when he? He was pretty cool. We've actually almost. Become friends at least in the same the same way that means for rail headed. No you know it's pretty cool. And finally I just want to ask. You always seem really happy like you really enjoying yourself. Am I right about that and how come other people can't be like that? I. Don't take it too seriously. Because I do there are certain things about the take fairly seriously. I just think that you gotTa have the ability of Botch yourself and laugh at yourself about this and half of the laughing that I do as always at myself for along with, and I think that's one thing that separates us and gives us longer legs than most other people is we always take his out of ourselves? It's. Is it an ability that a lot of people lack about a work anything tell people. Oh, look forward to coming back and having someone that horseradish down at the old saint elmo joint. You know it well. That's great wasn't really appreciate your doing this. Because obviously you don't have to. So Code back and we played where we played in Out The old what's your it? There deer. 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Halloween 2021 Special

Cherry Avenue True Crime Podcast

28:36 min | 2 weeks ago

Halloween 2021 Special

"Welcome back to cherry avenue true crime. Podcast this is the halloween special We are going to go over a bunch of scary movies that were either inspired by or based on true stories. I'll give you a brief synopsis of the movie. In case you wanna watch them this halloween season and then i'll give you the details of the true story that inspired each one. Hold onto your site. Broomstick or whatever spooky potion. You're making and sit back to listen. This is a true crime. Podcast and this episode includes details of vicious murders as well as other results listener. Discretion is advised. The first movie is eaten alive. It's nineteen seventy six movie. It stars neville brand mel farrar. Toby hooper robert england. And oh yes kyle. Richards of housewives of beverly hills fame. She is in the movie as the little girl with really crazy parents. I had to go to youtube because it was not available to stream anywhere else at the time of this writing. Not that i'm recommending this movie to anyone because i'm not it's a weird weird one and that's putting it nicely. A psychotic redneck who owns a dilapidated hotel in rural east. Texas kills various people who upset him or his business and he feeds their bodies to a large crocodile that he keeps as a pet in the swamp beside his hotel. The events of eaten alive which also went by the alternate titles deathtrap horror hotel and starlight slaughter where based on the real life alligator killer. Joe ball ball murdered at least two women in the nineteen thirties and the rumor was that he disposed of the bodies by feeding them to the pet elevators. He kept at his elmendorf texas bar. The movie starts out with robert. England of freddy kruger fame he is at a bordello and his telling the sex worker. He is with what he would like. Long story short. She does not want to be a sex worker and she gets kicked out of the brothel. She ends up walking down the road to the starlight hotel on her way into the hotel. She here's an alligator thrashing around in the water right next to the hotel when she goes in and inquires about a room. The man there judd tells her. It's not a normal gator. She heard it's a crocodile. He tells her that the crackly anything anything at all as they're walking up the stairs judd suddenly attacks out of the blue. He kills her with some horrifying hook. Rake combo he has. It is gnarly. He tips her over the railing. For the gator slash crock to eat the movie continues on this way. With judd running the small hotel killing one guest after another or at least wounding them and then pushing them in the water for the crock to eat. He kills them or seriously. Injures them using various methods including a sharp hooked rake a giant saif et cetera. The real story joseph. Douglas ball was a suspected. Serial killer sometimes referred to as the alligator man. The butcher of elmendorf and the bluebeard of south texas. He is known to killed at least two and possibly murdered as many as twenty women in the nineteen thirties. Elmendorf is a very small city with a population of just under fifteen hundred people and in the thirties. It was even smaller with the population of around three hundred joseph. Douglas ball was born january fifth eighteen. Ninety six joe served in world war one in nineteen twenty one. He married his first wife. Clara christina wani. The marriage didn't last very long. Joe saw an opportunity. During prohibition and became a bootlegger he took some of the money he made and built a bar in nineteen thirty three which he called the sociable in the in had a large cement pool behind it with a ten foot high wire fence. Joe filled the pool with five alligators. One large and four smaller sadly the poor stray cats and dogs as well as wild animals in the area were often fed to the alligators and joe would often charge money to watch the feedings in the summer of nineteen. Thirty seven mini goddard. A waitress. at joe's bar disappeared. Her parents went to the sheriff because they knew something was wrong. She was only twenty two and left oliver close behind also. They said she wouldn't have left them without saying anything. The authorities talked to joe but he just told them she found another job and was gone. Ball had been dating another waitress delores goodwin who was fifteen years younger than him and in september. They got married. Joe told dolores his secret that he had taken many to the beach and kilter mini was pregnant. He said and since he was already seeing dolores he had to get rid of mini delores told another waitress hazel brown about joe killing many in january of nineteen thirty. Eight lewis was in a car accident and lost her left arm. Joe's reputation by then was such that the word in town was that joe had either cut off her arm and fed it to an alligator or an elevator. Ripped it right off of dolores body when delores went missing. Joe was already seeing hazel brown behind. Laurence's back sometime soon after heysel also disappeared. Apparently there were some other waitresses. Well that vanished without a trace in september of nineteen thirty eight. The sheriffs were informed about a bad smelling barrel. That joe ball has left behind his sister's barn. There was enough rumor and disappearances that they decided to go out and take a look. The barrel was gone but his sister confirmed it had been there. They went out to talk to joe ball and told him that he needed to come with them for questioning. Joe asked him if he could close down the bar and they agreed. They went inside with him. Joe got a beer. Took a couple of shots opened the register and took out a gun that was on the shelf beneath it. Fall pointed the gun at his heart and pulled the trigger after joe was dead. The sheriff's looked over the place. Finding an axe with blood and hair on their first theory was the one that was already a rumor. He killed his wife and others and fed them to the gators. Joe had a handyman clifton wheeler who agreed to talk to the investigators. He told them how hazel brown had fallen for another guy. She wanted to leave joe and the bar. But joe didn't like that wheeler said. She threatened to tell police about jobs. Killing many so wheeler took the sheriff's three miles out of town on a bluff overlooking the san antonio river. They dug their and found the dismembered body of hazel brown. She had originally been in the barrel behind the barn. But joe had moved that with the help of wheeler he also told them that many had been pregnant and joe was seeing delors at that time so he told wheeler he had no choice. He took her out to the beach. Got drunk and then shot in the back of the head. Wheeler helped him bury her. They asked wheeler about the other women that had disappeared but it was unclear if wheeler was able to help them any further. They had found a scrapbook with photos of dozens of women so they did suspect more one woman who had been considered missing joe's wife dolores was found. She was in san diego where she had gone to stay with her sister. After running away. From joe the alligators ended up going to the san antonio. Zoo the monthly magazine true detective featured stories about job all the area and his friends and family. According to joe's nephew the stories were largely exaggerated and sometimes just out fiction. The exaggerations and inaccurate details made their way into books and eventually online there were many stories and lore about witnesses. Seeing everything from joe throwing chunks of human flesh into the gator pit all the way to seeing an entire body being tossed in. It's impossible to prove that ball. Never that some missing women were found but some never were considering how much can be proved about ball. The two bodies that were found including one cut many pieces his throwing live animals into the alligator pool. Lots of women coming and going to work for him. It could certainly be more than two murders in an interview. Dolores did in nineteen fifty seven. She said joe never put anyone in the elevator tank. She also said he was a sweet kind man who never heard anyone unless he was driven to it. Apparently he was driven to the two murders. He did commit as she agreed. That much was drew The next movie that we are discussing shadow of the vampire. Two thousand and one movie starring. John malkovich william defoe and carry. Els shadow of the vampire is a film about the making of a german all time. Classic silent horror movie from nineteen twenty two called nasrat to and then there's some other german words line symphony day days grounds i. I don't know how to pronounce those What it means is nas farrah to a symphony of horror the production of nas firat to had to deal with a lot of strange things. Some crew members disappeared. Some died shadow of the vampire stars. John malkovich is f w murnau and willem dafoe as max schreck. It is the fictionalized story of the making of nas. Fought to the fiction. Comes from the possibility that max schreck the actor who played the vampire might have been a real vampire. Roger ebert has said of the nineteen twenty two movie nas fraud to the film is an awe of its material is seems to really believe in. Vampires shadow of the vampire took that to heart. The movie shadow of the vampire is the story of making that movie nas fraught to in nineteen twenty two and it runs with the rumor that max shreck was really a vampire in the movie shadow of the vampire. The director knows he is a vampire. But none of the other caster crew knows although as filming goes on and some crew members die while others disappear. They start to suspect that he is shortly after nas fraught to debuted in german theaters in nineteen twenty. Two rumors circulated that shrek. The film's lead was actually a vampire in real life in the nineteen twenties the widespread vampire story as well as moving pictures themselves. Were still relatively new. And some people speculated that vampires might actually exist so they were more willing to believe the stories about shrek. Max shreck was said to be skilled actor with an unusual temperament. He had many stage and screen roles. He was a loner and it was said that he lived in his own remote and strange world. of course it certainly didn't help his reputation. That the word shrek in german is terror immediately painting the man as an intimidating figure while different depictions of vampires feature fear of the crucifix transformation into bats and having no reflection in a mirror. One of the universally recognized tropes is that vampires are killed by direct sunlight. However that wasn't really the case until f w maher no put it in his movie. In fact bram stoker's count dracula walked around outside in the sun but he was just merely weakened by it it was the ending of nas fraught to that cemented. The idea of sunlight killing the vampire. The sunlight being the cause of death was easier and cheaper than the fork laurich way which was to drive a stake through his heart cut off his head and burn the corpse which wouldn't have been easy to show on screen in nineteen twenty two bram stoker's widow sued saying that no ripped off her husband's story eventually. All copies of the film were ruled to be destroyed. Even after stoker's widow ordered nas fraught to destroyed the film managed to live on by that time. Copies of the movie had been sent to theaters around the world. Max schreck continued to act all the way through the nineteen twenties and thirties. He passed away from a heart attack in nineteen thirty nine. He was only fifty six years. Old robert eggers is said to be making a reboot of nas fraught to and his wanting robert pattinson to be count or lock but it is said that robert pattinson might not be that eager to play another vampire. Both nas ferrat to an shadow of the vampire movies. I recommend in shadow of the vampire. Willem defoe is a phenomenal actor of course and he does a truly exceptional job in this movie. Also john malkovich and other favorite of mine is very good just as he always is. This movie is were seeing. If you haven't already fun fact. Austin texas hosts an annual nas ought to festival inviting fans from all over the world to travel to america's city of bats and celebrate all things vampiric. The next move is from hell. Two thousand and one movie starring johnny depp and heather graham from hell was based on a graphic novel by alan moore speculates. On the real murderer jack the ripper who was never definitively identified. The hunt is a foot in the movie from hell. The two thousand. And one movie star johnny depp in the leading role of inspector fred abilene loosely based on the graphic novel of the same name. The film follows the story of jack. The ripper inspector. Oberlin is determined to catch the ripper before he wreaks more havoc and chaos in london but the story has certain details that make it intriguing. Abilene is aided by visions. He has while high on opium intermixed is the rippers possible next victim. Who's a love interest of appleans the movie features intense gore in its fervent attacks. It's a pretty decent movie that goes along telling the story of the murders goes through some of the suspects and ultimately ends with a particular suspect being the one. It's not who. I would lay my money on as actually being jack the ripper but i think pretty much. All of the suspects have interesting reasons as to why they become suspects. This particular one is quite interesting but ultimately one that i think is least likely to be jack the ripper himself so the movie is worth a watch. I won't give anymore away because that is part of the fun of this movie. Jack the ripper is one of the most famous if not the most famous unsolved serial killer murder cases. It was a long time ago and it has not been solved but one reason it got so much attention was just the severe brutality and gore involved in the murders without so much saying so everyone was thinking. This guy is one sick puppy so the fact that the murders were so terribly brutal and the fact that it was never solved has made this the subject of many many books and movies after i go through the facts of the case for you. I'll list the other movies. That are out there about jack in case you'd like to watch one or more of them this halloween season in the white chapel district of london jack. The ripper unleashed absolute terror. He killed at least five victims. The canonical five as they were often referred to marianne nichols annie chapman elizabeth stride catherine eddoes and mary. Jane kelly there are two earlier murders. That are not considered to be jack the ripper. I'm sure you are at least somewhat aware of these ripper murders. But i still want to warn you that. The details of his attacks on these women is deeply disturbing and gruesome and they get more so as he went on warning issued listener discretion is advised the first two cases in the white chapel murders file those of emma elizabeth smith and martha taper are not included in the canonical file. Emma elizabeth smith was robbed and sexually assaulted in chapel around one thirty. Am on the third of april eighteen. eighty eight. She was hit in the face repeatedly and had her ear cut. The attackers also used a blunt. Object of some kind to violently insert in her vagina causing a rupture to or peritoneum. She died in the hospital. The next day from peritonitis smith was able to give a description of the attackers and said it had been two to three men and that one of them looked like a teenager. After the ripper murder started to accumulate. The newspapers linked her murder to jack the ripper but most experts attribute smith's murder to east and gang violence. That was prevalent at the time. Martha abrams is another that. Most experts do not include india. Jack the ripper murders but hers does seem quite possible. As there was a lot of viciousness in the attack inflicted on her she was also murdered in white chapel and her death was caused by thirty nine stab wounds. She was stabbed in the throat. Lungs heart liver spleen stomach abdomen breasts and vagina. The stab wounds were consistent with the attacker. Being right handed she had not been raved most experts who do not include her with the ripper. Murders do so because she was not slashed but stabbed so there is a difference in the wound pattern. However jack could have just been getting started. The canonical five river victims are marianne nichols annie chapman elizabeth stride. Catherine eddoes and mary jane kelly. The body of marianne nichols was discovered at around three thirty. Am on the thirty. First of august. Eighteen eighty eight in white chapel. Emily holland a friend of hers had seen her just an hour before she was found she had to deep cuts that severed her throat. She had been stabbed two times in the vagina and her abdomen was partially ripped open causing her bowels. To protrude there were further incisions to both sides of her abdomen. One week later there was another victim. September eighteen eighty eight. The of anti chapman was discovered around six. Am just like marianne nichols. The throat was severed by to deep cuts. Her abdomen had been cut entirely open with parts of the flesh from her stomach being placed on her left shoulder and another section of skin and flesh as well as her small intestines were removed and placed up on her right shoulder during autopsy was discovered that her uterus and parts of her bladder and vagina had been removed. A witness says she saw chapman around five thirty a. m. talking to a man who she described as dark-haired and of a shabby genteel appearance he wore a brown deer stalker hat and dark overcoat. There were two victims killed in the early morning hours of september thirtieth eighteen eighty eight. Elizabeth stride was found discovered at one. Am there was a single incision six inches long across their neck and down her jaw which severed her left carotid artery and her trachea there was no further mutilations and it is speculated that either jack the ripper was interrupted during the murder where it was not him there were witnesses who saw a man with elizabeth stride who came forward to the police and they all gave different descriptions some said the man was fair-haired and some said he had dark hair some said he was well dressed but others said he was shabby catherine eto his body was found forty five minutes later her throat was slit in her abdomen ripped open by a long deep and jagged wound before her intestines had been placed over her right shoulder the left kidney and part of her uterus had been removed her face had been mutilated her nose severed cheek slashed and there were vertical cuts and each of her eyelids triangular incisions had also been carved upon each of her cheeks and he section of her right ear was cut off and found in her clothing. A witness said he saw a woman who might have been does with a shabby man who had fair hair. A little over an hour after catherine at osas body was found. A section of her bloodied apron was founded the bottom of a wall with chuck writing on it. It read. the jews are the men that will not be blamed for nothing. Some said that the message implied that a jew or jews were responsible for the murder however it is unknown if the message was already there when the murder dropped the section of the apron it could have then been there before and have nothing to do with the murder or murderer. Mary jane kelly was found in her room that she rented on november ninth eighteen. Eighty eight. it was an absolutely horrifying sight. Her face was severely mutilated. her throat. severed down to her spine. She was disemboweled and nearly all over organs had been taken out of her abdomen. Her kidneys uterus and one breast was placed under her head. Her heart was completely missing. The mutilations definitely got worse with each victim except for stride and most believe that is because the ripper was interrupted the murders were extensively. Investigated in are still being investigated. Speculated on and written about there are a lot of suspects and the only thing we know for sure is that no one really knows who jack. The ripper was some movies about jack. The ripper. the first one is jack the ripper from nineteen eighty eight. It stars michael caine as the head. Deductive appaling the movie starts by talking about how it has been a hundred years. And although this is a dramatization of those events it was based on extensive research including a review of the official files by special permission of the home office as well as interviews with leading criminologists and scotland yard officials. The other one is from hell the one that we just talked about two thousand and one movie starring johnny depp and heather. Graham a study in terror is a nineteen sixty five movie. This movie incorporates. Sherlock holmes in the mix and murder by decree nineteen seventy eight movie also featuring sherlock holmes is said to pay close attention to the details of the ripper murders and a movie that i could not find anywhere is. Love lies bleeding. Nineteen ninety nine. Movie starring paul rise. Emily raymond malcolm mcdowell wayne rogers and faye dunaway. Some other movies. You should check out brassiness. It's a nineteen ninety nine movies during guy peers. Robert carlyle and jeffrey jones in a remote military outposts in the nineteenth century captain. John boyd and his regiment embarked on a rescue mission which takes a dark turn when they are ambushed by sadistic cannibal. This movie is inspired by the donner party. And alfred. griner packer elford. Griner packer was a prospector guide. In the rocky mountains during the eighteen seventies who confessed to cannibalism during the winter of eighteen. Seventy four packer joined bob mcgrew party of twenty one men. In november of eighteen seventy three they left provo utah and were heading for the gold country around breckenridge colorado. There was an unusually harsh winter from eighteen. Seventy three to seventy four. After three months of difficult travel they happen upon an indian camp. The chief offered to let them stay with his tribe until the winter passed after awhile. Packer and five other men decided they couldn't wait out. The whole winter and left for las pinos indian agency on april sixteenth eighteen. Seventy four packer arrived at the loss. Pinos indian agency alone looking surprisingly fit for a man who had just completed a brutal winter trek through the rockies. When asked what happened to the rest of his party packer claimed he got his feet wet and frozen and the others abandoned him after. It was discovered that packer had some of the other men's belongings and a large amount of money. His story was questioned. Albert eventually told a story in which one man died and the others eight him to stay alive then another man was killed accidentally and they ate him and so on as they slowly traveled until albert was the only one left. Eventually the remains of all five men were found at one campsite. Not one here and one there as if they were still travelling together. Packer was charged with murder. Packer escaped jail but was found nine years later. He changed his story a few times in one of them. He claimed that a member in their party went crazy and shot the other foremen. He was found guilty of premeditated murder and sentenced to hang. In the first trial there was an appeal a reversal and a retrial. He was convicted of five counts of manslaughter and sentenced to forty years. He was paroled in nineteen. Oh one and passed away in deer creek colorado in nineteen o seven at the age of sixty five. Another movie is summer of sam in nineteen ninety nine movie as well spike. Lee's take on the son of sam murders in new york city during the summer of nineteen. Seventy seven centering. On the residents of an italian american northeast. Bronx neighborhood who live in fear and distrust of one. Another john leguizamo adrian brodie mira sorvino jennifer esposito and anthony lapaglia. The other one is one. I've recommended before it's the town that dreaded sundown nineteen seventy six movie it was based on the real murders that took place in texarkana in the nineteen forties a hooded killer. The texarkana phantom attacked couples parked in their cars. Three people escaped the attacks but were severely wounded. Five were killed his last attack that is known of was of a married couple in their own home. Thank you for listening. If you'd like to leave a voicemail about this or any other episode you can do so on my website. Cherry avenue true crime dot com and you can also let me know if you want your voice mail aired on a future episode or not. 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Big Story Streaming Club: Friday Night Lights episodes 4-6 with Matt Burton

The Big Story

59:59 min | 1 year ago

Big Story Streaming Club: Friday Night Lights episodes 4-6 with Matt Burton

"In medicine welcome into the big story. Podcast Chisholm Holland along with Matt Burton. Today it is wins day April Eighth of the year twenty twenty of our good Lord and we are doing our streaming club Matt and we have been watching Friday night lights. So we're doing episodes four through five through eight today no fourth or six. I'm going through six. I'm getting all my numbers mixed up. We're doing four through six this afternoon in you and I actually saw each other today. I didn't think I was GONNA like it and it turns out I did. Oh yeah no I thought it was going to be cheesy which it is. It has absolutely changed my acceptable level of cheesy right. Like until it draws you drowsy win and there's more so no I love it and there's just enough football that it keeps you kind of like. Oh yeah this is a sports show. This is a sports show. I yes yes exactly no sound so I I'm Jordan. I'm happy I'm happy agreed to do this. Okay perfect don't worry there's only about one hundred more episodes ago. We got time. We do have time. We have plenty of time. Okay I always made it my job there and I chose not to. I just want everyone to say Manchester real restraint because that was restrained on my part Okay so episode. For Friday Night Lights opens up with the Classic High School Party. Yes okay so here's my question to you. Who are you at the Classic High School Party? Are you Matt Saracen pretending that he belongs? Julie who clearly does not WanNa be there and feels awkward the whole time or you. Tim Riggins who is clearly. Do every high school parties since he was twelve years old and this is really where his home is. He's just he's just on the entire time that's more that's more my speed. You can tell her. I'm chilling on hanging out having a good time. Not Trying to make an asset myself right. Well well that just really describes my day to day life truthfully. I will say at the time I did not drink. Any alcohol is twenty one so I would but I attended parties and I. I was Matt Saracen. I was the guy who's Oh yeah. Yeah cool cool. I'm cool. Did he go? Did you go to other like sober? Prince no okay. I thought you were going to be the guy that was there that was sober and would just make fun of everyone with your other sober friends. I didn't do any of that. I just wanted everybody to like me. I was also I was also I still do. That's fine. Yeah Yeah I think a school of a High School of two hundred ish people. Total all classes Everyone knew that they could call me at any point in time. I would be sober to drive the pumps. I probably I mean over the most important person at the Party. The most important person zip code yes like just so everyone knew who I was. Everyone had my cell phone number in like you know I was not a popular guy but I was very approachable guy so I mean I would get calls from people who I wouldn't even really consider France and they'd be like hey man. Can you come out of this party and drive me? Home Mickey Asher. I'll be up there and they just send up about six. That's exactly yeah. Good thing about small towns like the first ever drive is like two miles exactly exactly and then in this industry I was GonNa ask you. Have you ever been vomited on by someone Oud okay? The closest I've ever been is college. I was out having you know having some fun Post twenty one and a girl got very very sick in a parking lot and I had to hold her hair while also making sure that she didn't just face plant into the asphalt so I've had vomit like where I could hear it and I could see it. It's like two feet away from my shoe in maybe like got on my shoe but never just directly vomited on. That's a step too far right now. I'm with you know I've had on some on the shoes. I've stepped in multiple. I'm always kissed. I'm assuming guy I have a bunch of cheers and it it is. It's it's EPA but no never been directly vomited on by someone That's not me so high school party. Great Opening Scene Very Funny. I enjoyed it. Enjoy how you talk about. Corny Corny. That scene was also has. Has anyone ever been shut down as consistently as Matt Saracen by Julie Like just no? It's fantastic no matter. Poor Matt Guy Yeah race folk is getting shut down by Julie Voodoo moves in and by all accounts is GonNa take his spot like not going through right now and I also loved Videos coming in and turning on his own to the party power. That's a flat. His song his son was way better than smashed that I will say that. His dog was way better than smashes. There's no doubt about that. I also like what is he. Smashed the along lines like who turned off by my tunes or my jam. Something that no one would say. No one would. Actually that was clearly. It was clearly written. Also Voodoo at that party saying that smash back trying to climb trees which is like an incredible short joke. Oh yeah great the van okay. So the next scene is obviously the rival team who I don't have the name of the school written down but something tells me you buy it was. It was our net me. You're right aren't trashing the locker room in the weight room. I mean like this isn't like a high school prank. This is like shirt of vandalism. Yes yes no. It reminded me of my dad. Used to be coach at Piedmont and they at the time had a very crazy rivalry with deer creek And some before one of the Basketball Games One of some I never. I never taught him some Piedmont. High school students at the time had a deer that they had shot and they like tied it up to the goal posts at deer creek so it kind of reminded me of that yet. Someone sneaked like trespassing. And then like I think they spray painted some stuff on the field too so as not not a great thing but it just reminds me like that. I mean that happens rivalries. Yes so in my time in high school I absolutely know of some pranks that happened against Marlow from Comanche and to Comanche for Marlow. I will say though. I nothing if something happened like this where they trash. I mean that's like what forty thousand dollars worth of damage. Yeah yeah that's that's a lot of those kids are arrested right. Yes extremely key. Part is ruining their entire aggressing mother. Everything equipment go like smashing helmets eight. Oh and like. I mean destroying mirrors in the weight room. They're throwing stuff all over the place and then of course you know the coach coach Taylor brings the kids in gives them. We're not no one's going to retaliate. To this speech which you know I think in some cases that would minute sarcastic. No-one retaliate. Don't retaliate But if needed he them to get ready for practice so they're just gonNa sort through all of this stuff in an encouragement from Ron was it. They're just like smear over the long. What don't get your stuff on this contract. Now come on go go. Go Dig through all of this. Hopefully you can find your shoulder pads. Maybe someone didn't Bash your helmet into a concrete wall over and over and dented exactly. Let's hope we can get lucky here so again? Those got those kids are just imprisoned. Arnett Meade is forfeiting the game. Because they're in jail. Yes exactly one hundred percent So Lila and Jason and Tim. Love Triangle starts in this episode. Obviously we saw Tim and Lyla a little intimate Lila at one point early in this part says quote. I just hope I don't go straight to hell for doing this. And then and then has sex with temp Benin. Mmediately is like Yeah No. We're going to do this. But she's like whatever all Johnston and then at one point. She says. This will never happen again. Which is code for. This is definitely going to happen again. This asked me twenty four hours exactly I will. I will change my mind. Wait till I had a bad day or me and me and my boyfriend get into an argument and then this'll totally yells at me if your best friend yells at me again. Ooh I'm right back over here. Okay so can I actually tell you this next portion? I have written down and talk about is actually out of all the seasons. A little spoiler here. This is my biggest complaint about the show voters that guy yes like. Voodoo is so clearly so much better than that Sarasin that it is coming on the call that there was even a qb competition and it is also comical. That coach Taylor is so apprehensive. Just turn it. The kids scores like six touchdowns on six plays in practice for fifty yards out. Yeah Yeah and a couple of them. Running Calorie moved in Austin Kindle This is a columnist Austin kindle situation. No jokes I think link I Lincoln Riley a big leaguer. Riley had it figured out for the most part coach. Taylor really seemed to struggle morally with it just really wrestling back and forth. What is so apparent that Matt as much as he does not have one tenth of the talent that Voodoo has. And so what I? This is my big complaint if coaches turns his team over to Voodoo just. What's he sees those six touchdowns in practice and they immediately just say. Okay you're the quarterback. Let's figure out what offense is going to work for you. None of the other stuff happens. None of the arguments none of the explosions you know they're not running the no huddle offense reviewed who's calling all the plays because of probably just getting along. This is a massive with with coach Taylor because he just gave up a division quarterback who's going to Lsu for under recruited five six kid. Yes a sophomore five six sophomore in high school. Okay win win did he. Just completely shrug off coach Taylor. Because there wasn't here's locking onto the field news. Hey community talk to you. And then he just kept walking and it just didn't even didn't even acknowledge coach because he was late he was late for practice because he's late. That's why that's that's right. That's right but But yeah no it. High school coaches in general. If you're star player you're going to get away with a lot more than anyone else. That's just a fact. That's it happens. Now get over it deal with it completely not acknowledging that your coach is it exists even. Yeah even in your presence. That's a little. That's a little much I can see. Why coach Taylor was a little hesitant but then you look at him play. And you're like okay. Yeah I just my only point is is that coach. Taylor did not really try to build the relationship at all like at all. There was no effort on Koczela part. It was all you need to earn my respect and on some level like hey coach you got Michael Vick in highschool you might. You might need to work at this a little bit. Yeah I mean star players get away with more for a reason and it. Maybe shows a practice on time. If you're encouraging him own. If you welcome an open arms right from the jump exactly maybe just oh you gotta earn everything in Texas football and all that stuff has also coached Taylor having the number one recruit in the nation and Jason Street who obviously gets hurt and then following up by a division one quarterback going to Lsu and fumbling both of those situations in up with Matt. Saracen is is truly just some really questionable decisions from the coaching staff for sure. Yeah that's his going downhill fast. Okay so after practice. Coach Taylor's talking to Sarah soon. Because he wants to give them the starting job so bad it hurts and this is really one of the greatest hilarious best re because this show is not funny like. There's not a lot of comedy in it. This is the one of the funniest scenes in the season by mile with coach. Taylor is getting Sarasin. The do you have a girlfriend? Is there earlier interested in awe. He's like dude. Yeah and he goes to the movies take. This is a quote take to the movies. Take him to dinner. Get in the back seat of your car and get some stress out not knowing that he's talking about his daughter the fan just great. It's fantastic because you you can like you could put yourself in that. Sarasin situation right there and just think about how awkward that situation must have been ten out of ten on the Awkward Scale. Because you hear mind. You're like Well it is your daughter but you are giving me permission. Technically they bought me so within like an hour. He's hitting on his daughter like he's like he's like take advice in stride. Yeah he's like you know what it doesn't matter if it is his daughter. Maybe it doesn't matter it'll navy does not a truly great writing. I love that okay. So okay so your reaction to finding an old woman in your house bathing. I would freak out a little so whoever I would freak out a lot. Whoever met Saracens grandma who whatever home that was that she walked? Those people handled it in stride. I would not have been so kind. I don't think they would just yeah old woman naked bathing in our house. It's okay we'll just call the police to drive her home right now. I would have been what the hell are you doing crazy? You know a lot of name calling. Yeah but you know if she was very sympathetic and apologetic. I guess but I don't know if I would have handled it As casually as these people right So a coach Taylor has all of the boosters in all the parents over a few days later He's asked by Buddy Garrity. What the offense is GonNa look like and this was a joke but matt. I think we really need to dive into that. We spend at least a half hour. So Buddy Garrity ass. Hey was the offense going to look like this this this coming Friday. A coach Taylor says we're gonNA have four running backs and we're just GONNA run a ton of verses. What is his offense? Look like does it work for running backs versus Do we see it? Nfl team tried to implore this offense after the quarantine. Because they've had time to work on it I'd say so I mean you don't things are things aren't going well get a little gimmicky. You know you. It's not like you're just a kid that's going to Lsu as a quarterback that can do yeah. You changed him playing free safety. This appreciates it just a few weeks ago. We found Patrick. Mahomes was playing free safety junior in high school. Yes this is the same thing. The exact same exact same. We're good at quarterback we've got here we got. We got Sarasin really respectful. He's really respectful. Kid Works hard. Leaves everything out there. He Oh you're going to Lsu for the same because we'll we'll we'll put you back over here free safety. See what you can do. You can do on the back and also He Bats Down Past. And it's really one of the most. Unathletic jumps. I've seen he got a guy like seriously like a foot off the ground. Max Oh not great. It was not a great look. He's I was. I was like what in the hell is. The News So match Sarasin Tim. Smash and all those guys decide. They're going to retaliate against the other high school. They go to the quarterbacks house and they'd be on his car with bats and all that stuff later that kid in some of his teammates show up to Matt Saracens Work and let me tell you mad black matte might be from a big town or biggest town in Texas. He's got a small town in Him. He went straight for the first wing. That's the move you swing is like you know you're going to get your ass kicked. Yes right I mean there's there's four of them one of you. Odds are you're getting your aspect but you gotta get you gotta get at least one in no doubt. Why not make it the first one? Why not make it? I want you. You gotta get at least one or two punches and because you know as soon as they. I mean it's yourself a creek without paddle I so that's episode afforded. I Miss Anything Let's see here Riggins PLAYING IRWIN. Lila was watching that. That's a real thing you know you gotTa Impress. Got Impress the ladies. We'll see it's one of two ways right like that's either a positive or makes you play worse like guys that sort of two different ways good players rise to the occasion when there's someone and especially a girl to impress shows let's just science. Yep The radio interview with beauty and Buddy Garrity Like why the F? Is Buddy doing the menu with him too great question? What value does he bring to this? Radio interview with the city has nothing to do with. Football Program is not a coach I guess. He's technically induced her. I guess he's the head of the booster club. Yeah but that's still really doesn't have a whole lot to do with football team. And then he said when he does like I knew the heavens opened up when he landed and Dylan talking about Video like what a scumbag thing to do just like just like with religion Mike what yes. You like regretted this kid. Don't don't cover it with religion. No Is there. Anyone who's more morally questionable. And this show them buddy garrity no not at all. He's my least favorite character by far and I don't see that changing I'll tell you there's a couple I'm not gonNA ruin a forty but there's a couple of characteristics turns. Okay okay. That's fine but I do up to this point and up to episode six that we've watched buddy garrity. Oh yeah least favorite. Because I know people like him that are involved with high schools. Yeah I don't know if we talk about this in the first episode and the fact is a radio station in town. That's just doing sports. Stock seven days a week. Just about the dillon. Panthers High School Football Team is truly incredible. What a Job. That must be right. You either taking love. I Love I love talking on the high school scoreboard show. I love that. Don't get me wrong but if I had the radio about one high school football team I would probably lose my mind. I mean are they just railing on the kids because every time they cut to the radio show? They're just complaining about the coach. So is it just like twelve hours. A day of them complaining about the coach would have to be right. Because I mean like I I mean I'm sure you learn this at Ucla to Like we were talking about like you don't bash. High school kids like on broadcast class in our media classes. I didn't take any joke I took. I took no media. Journalism classes none alley. I do agree on that. No that's not enough to really explain to you a lot about my own dude. You're also didn't even do that. I did all that and I'm still shit. GotTa I got an advertising advertising major so if you ever need someone to tell you how to sell some let me know. I can see that doing that next. I did it for a while. It was Okay so am I decided this. Thank you Episode Five Lila going on a run. Which is supposed to symbolize her. Moving on turning a new leaf. Let me tell you as someone who's ran a lot in her life a lot in my life. Lila has never ran before this actress. A tune out to Lila does not run much. No she is based on form. She's just flopping all over the and I mean like her arms are just all over the place it is just clearly that she's so unathletic but she's supposed to be the superstar cheerleader. It's just hard to believe. Yeah very not believable. This the Back Down from new. They're not doing a whole lot. No ours athleticism. No on this cast. This is what I've never understood and it's because I don't work in TV and I'm sure you know I'll never get the opportunity but I've always been blown away that in these these sports movies in shows they can't find like body doubles for people who actually look like. They know what they're doing you. Yeah no I know exactly what you mean. I don't maybe I don't know I don't know like I said like you said not involved with TV. Probably never going to be But I still don't get how you can't just be like. Yeah let's get someone that's at least the slightest bit athletic you. You just need to start a company. Where movie it? The Movie Industry Sends US Sports Movies. And All we do is watch the sports scenes and we just say if it's believable or not one better. Let's both be body doubles for these days. That's perfect okay. So the next scene is coach. Taylor office I don't even remember what he's working on. Here's what stood out to me. He's using an irreversible pen I did. I forgot those existed until I saw that I didn't do. I didn't catch that. That's hilarious. I had not heard of a eraseable in. I could not even tell you how long I remember when those came out when I was a fifth grade and like like bic was running a ton of ads and I thought those were the dopas thing that ever existed. I just remember going begging my mom to erase bullpen. So I can take him to school. What an invention the wheel fire irascible can always said so voodoo comes into the office. Coach Taylor is hoping that like voodoo comes in and tries to sell himself to the coach so he can reason this out and Voters little speech is just unbelievable. He's a coach. We've got an arranged marriage. And the Emmy gives us whole little arranged marriage species. Where's is here to help each other? We're not here because we like each other which fair. That's totally fair. Because coach Taylor is selling boy in the apartment building. A few episodes ago was if you WANNA compete for a state title in Texas. You should come to the Dillon Panthers like he knew that this was a transactional relationship when he recruited him anyway. And then coach Taylor asked you to leave the door open a Buddha slams the door like talking about all the power moves all of them. Yeah I coach Taylor is. He's losing this battle. He's losing this power battle. Yes you will it is taking your turn for the worse for Carts Taylor Very quickly So then it cuts to Tyra who we find out is a waitress at applebee's because every scene that involves food in the show has to be set in appleby's for some reason applebee's man. Yeah so here's my question to you tyra. We can both amid a fine looking woman. She supposed to be kind of a heroine of this. Show that you're posted like a whole lot and find attractive. That's her role really agreed. How much board is she making tips than the common applebee's waitress? She's gotTa be raking in the Del. Oh Anton more a ton more because the lady that she took over for her so she was like sixty. Yes and this dude that she serving is like twenty something. Probably maybe probably not investment banker. He's gotta be somewhere around there. Late Twenties early thirties somewhere around there. Who Do you think he's tipping more? Oh no doubt TYRA. And that's why boy is entire entire getting all the tips tire. It's a pretty smart move on her part to go work at a place where she is by far. Probably the most sought after waitress in the restaurant and again it turns out everyone in Dylan only eats at applebee's no one eats anywhere else. Yes how many times you've worked in restaurants before. Yeah someone comes in they. They request a server. That's always a great feeling. Yes whenever someone's like. Hey someone has to sit like okay. Great need turned the corner. Usually like your mom or dad. A tire is getting that from multiple men. Yes not related to her. No doubt And you and I can also relate on this when you're waiting. Tables are bartending and You'RE YOU'RE BUSTING. Your entire is over there checking snapchat every five seconds forgetting to fill up water but makes more tips in you. You just make it through a wall and then she always kind of complaints. Here's like I did so Shitzu close tonight. I Made Eighty Bucks. How much do you make two hundred? No great she's also the girl always trying to get you close for her. Yes I'll give you like five bucks I'll slip a five or if you close tonight yet tyra I'm not GonNa get take five bucks a state two hours later. No no thank you. No thank you kiss my ass. Yeah very predictable in that situation. Mac The offensive coordinator. Trying to stage a mutiny. For the Dillon. Panthers is seen of him copying the playbook to give to Voodoo so tension there between him and coach Taylor. Yes then this says. Hey I want your job. I think the way I see it. You're sitting in my seat. He says yeah this Guy Man. This guy's not being Second Fiddle you. Don't WanNa be coaching waiting. He does not. He does not He he strikes me as someone like Freddie Kitchens. Yes like he he. He thinks he should be the top dog. He's an offensive coordinator but you know if he gets handed the keys of this car. He's just gonNA drive a straight into a wall. Oh Yeah Oh for sure now. That is a great comparison. Yeah okay so streets he. You finally get kind of introduced his roommate. Tell me as someone who's not seen this show. What is your reaction to Jason Streets? Roommate he strikes me. He's a seasoned veteran In the wheelchair game. And he's like I feel like he's like tough. Love is like tough love. You know he's trying to help them get through it but he's trying to do it in like a tough love. Way Like Hey. Hey this is life. Now you're going to have to accept that like you're you're you're going to get through it like but I'm going to be tough on here and try to get the best out of you. It's it's kind of one of those things is how it struck me. Yeah he he. He's kind of an asshole the whole time. But you know it's hard to the right place right. Yeah exactly. He's not because he's like. He's doing a complete opposite of. Elila right is doing a complete opposite of what he's been hearing this entire time. So voodoo gets the start. Lewis is starting quarterback Matt Saracen. Which again right call now. So she should have made the day before or the morning of. I don't even really time line wise. When they made this announcement Ashram calling in Matt Saracen in Matt basically giving him the answer he was. That coach. Taylor is wanting to get from Voodoo us like you. I wish you would show that you care. I wish you'd just earnestness or some. You know some some excitement about potentially starting for the Dillon Panthers and that gives him none of that and then that comes in starts basically begging for the jobs on them how hard you want how much she wants it. Now he's been working and he's GonNa do everything can help this team win and Yada Yada Yada and he doesn't get the start. Yes no format. Format can't break But no but I mean yours better. So so Buddha's starts the game off a sixty yard touchdown run casual. I mean just to end like he's supposed to run a slip screen to the fullback in like. Do you know he's supposed to throw the ball? To Reagan's I've never seen anyone run a slip screen to the fullback. We've been setting us up. Oh Game. We're like you're setting up fullback screen all games. Yeah you could have ran out of the first play. The game coach. No one was being that one coming. We're going to expect that you can. You can run at any time right. And then so they show that drive. I guess between the very first drive of the game and the very last drive of the first half and nothing happens because it just immediately goes to we're almost into half-time and VOODOO throws they do. The whole were Voodoo is ignoring coach. Taylor as you walk down the field. He's running a no huddle offense calling his own plays and just immediately gets picked off by free safety And it gets taken to the House for a pick six first off. Jason Street tries to make that tackle. You know who's not in anywhere in the frame on the return. 'cause I rewound Voodoo is nowhere to be found to make this tackle Rotimi Fair. I mean what happened to street business decision right right. This is like what people ole a basketball you see a guy coming down the Middle Lane to dunk and you just like step out of the way. Yeah there's no chance on no earth am I stopping now right so He does a pick six. Does coach Taylor to a tirade. I'm going to go in and say this. If not mistaken they were down. They were down seven or the down ten at that point. I think I think just seven. Okay can't remember. That's going into halftime down seven and coach. Taylor's acting like they're down eighty like I mean that guy is I mean. He is ten out of ten nuclear like he's losing his mind and I get the whole Buddhu calling on place thing but his speech to the rest of the team. I mean it really does make a salad. They're down one hundred points and they just have no chance no for sure but it was just one of those things at the Is wanting to call plan voodoo calls different play Just set him off. Set Him off. I mean kind of rightfully so. You're good players. You want them to Kinda coach themselves like if you have a really good team really good players. It's like not coach them so but you know you have trust them to call their own plays at times at times color especially in high school at times very limited but to just completely shrug off the coast me like no. We're running this play. Yeah I can. I can see steelers fury yet. So he comes in the when he comes into the locker room. He's he goes sailors. Basically if you do that one more time you're done you do that. One more time you're done and food is walking away from him. Coach Taylor like a light switch immediately. Goes and take your pads off. You're Outta here like I don't think Voodoo really said anything. It was just the fact that he was ignored. Coach Taylor that he went from. If you don't listen to me what you're listening to play calls one more time you're done to immediately kicking him off. The team. escalated quickly. It did ask really got out of hand passed so matt. Saracen comes in the second half saves the day as Matt Saracen only can so now this he played also time out time out call back all on the first episode of Ood yes and then Matt seriously come in and say that he absolutely did he. Absolutely you nailed that. You nailed that prediction. I didn't want to spoil it for you that you're going to be right so mass as it comes so now we see Matt Saracen. Play a second half. He played the entire second game. And then like the last. Like what forty. Seconds of the first one yes. He's been lights out for every second of it. Exactly he's a Gamer. He's a game outside of throwing the ball off his centers head and trying to hand the ball off the wrong direction. Outside of those two plays. He's been flawless. Just some nerves. You know this is the first time Friday night lights but once he gets injured. He's I don't understand how he's more nervous and practice then. He's nervous in the game because in the game he spot practice. He can't get anything right. That doesn't make any sense. It's all because he's in love with a girl. Yeah it's not just any girl Chisholm. Coach's Julie you're right and Matt Harrison with the creeper status where he's like standing outside the dance studio face on glass scaring Julius but the whole time like I'm like okay. That's a little awkward man. I was the only like that was very very awkward. I was fully expecting them to go full awkward and then then like lock is. Yeah and free got anymore. But I'm glad they didn't go he would have stocker. He just got a good labor. You know look at it and then just keep it movin but Really Weird stuff there for Matt Saracen Gadgets Teaming Sarasin Peeping Sarah's at no doubt. Okay so that's my that's my recap of episode five. Miss Anything. Did WE MISS ANYTHING Episode Five Hang on hang on I have like the scene where Tim is like trying to be a good boyfriend. He's like how's your Calculus test you ask. Lila's like being Satan but you know I feel like that's predictable. So I do. I do not want to talk to you at all Oh okay yes I did have. We did miss something The opposing team. There's this am I going far. No okay so the opposing team. Whenever they go for two to win it yes right. Yeah yeah go to. The opposing team. Have to timeouts left. Didn't they hold time out and they're tired remember. He's like he sees them. I stopped and looked and it said that The opposing team timeouts left. They don't take time out when they're in their players are guests. That coach. That is in trouble. Yes that coach. I did not catch the two time out thing. That's that's that's a great wrinkle The other thing about this. It's always bothered me. Is this situation coach. Taylor who clearly just thinks Matt Saracen is the next Doug Flutie. Hey you know what you see Matt and then you know Mexico. They're tired the tired. Okay Matt what do you like in this situation? You assume that is going to call some type of past play right like I want to get the ball out of my hands as fast as possible at throwing our second talk to your best players the NS. He's just like whatever. I can do to make sure that it's I'm not at fault. If this does it work we can just give me some. That would be great. That'd be fantastic. Just a for I love it and then at the end of the episode right is when Buddy Buddy goes to his house late at night right yeah coach Churches House late at night and like tells them about the investigation that they're having arrived about Voodoo by his parents were K. And I was like. Did he turn them in like how did that? I didn't at the end of that. I didn't know how it got turned in. I didn't know if buddy was like sabotaging it because our that meade is the one who raised suspicions. Because true. Only if we wanted to this kid's not on the roster week three. He's starting and he was in New Orleans a year ago winning a state title. I would also have suspicions that that kid has lived there for a month. Yes but they did did say that. Like four other teams tried to recruit him right right here so it could just be like jealous thing. Yeah it's just that that they landed an Arnott me did not. I assume that's kind of what it is And Dylan got caught with their hand. The cookie jar. I think that's kind of what we're supposed to draw from that. Also that's that's all I can buddy garrity. Just get out of. He's just making everything worse. He's just making everything worse. He's buddy garrity is the worst man. He is the absolute worst that exist. You had to give coach Taylor credit for this patience because I mean just he gets frustrated with buddy but he never tells him to stop messing with the football program right. He's just always time to let him be involved. I mean you can but you can't tell them to f. off like because he's the president of the head and abuse or any which hey big deal deal in town so I don't know he's is the worst that's all I can say. Okay episode six opens up and smash is I think either at the The Burger shop that there was remember. But smashes introducing Matt's girls. Here's my question. This is supposed to be a three a school. Shouldn't Matt know who these people are like? He might not be friends with them but he knows who they are and they probably know who he is right. No yeah everyone and like three eight yes what. There's there's five random women who are all the same ages Matt who don't know who he is literally zero chance unless there are different school which. I doubt so. I find that puzzling. That Matt is at Antisocial. Where there's just you know again three a school. Let's say most graduating hundred and eighty most most that he will know he might not know them personally but he at least know the names of everybody has graduating class for. He'd actually more friendly like Oh. Hey Sarah from third hour Algebra together yeah. I sit behind you while you snore. Not Oh I've never seen before. All Right Matt. Yeah Yeah. I just found that we're and your name. Okay so There's a scene in this and this is going to make me sound like a Dick is just gonNA. I'm just GONNA crafts that and I understand. This is a little insensitive but these are the hard hitting questions. I need answered so Jason Calls. Tim tells him to come up to the hospital early in this episode. Because Tom is Jason's best friend and timid only been up to the hospital one time before their first game to visit Jason and it was only because the whole team went. And so tim hadn't been up there by himself so Jason's asking him to up right Jason's alone in his hospital room. How did he dial the cell? Phone hands working up They work right now. I mean he's he can like his his hands in arms kind of work but his fingers aren't doing a whole lot of anything have you ever. Yes to get the spoon and just velcro at to his hand. Because he can't close his fingers right. Let sure yeah yeah. So how did he may not only open the cell phone but also dialing in Haiti call? Well mouth and tongue action. I'll maybe that'd be gross. Especially in these sounds really gross. In this day and age right I would recommend to everyone to not let their cell phones. Especially when you're in the hospital right so I I know that I know that's a little bit jerk of a question but I think that's a pretty big flaw. I think it's a valid question. Think the nurse should have been in there and like dial for them like when they cut the Jason like the nurses walking out of the room. You don't mean like hey like hey nurse can I call my best friend? Yeah Hey your cell phone call Tim. Yeah no nurse is going to be like No Yeah it's just it's just the thought I had because then whenever he hangs up afterwards. You could tell you struggling you know. He's still go through physical therapy started. Get Use of his hands back and I was just like. How did he dial the little numbers in the first place? Did he accidentally call the wrong person? At least twice. Yeah that's possible. Questions will never no question. That's very valid question Okay so then This is really when it gets. It gets a little bit like Oh this is clearly made before two thousand ten so Voodoo is in the Burger shop and he comes in with five random friends which Buddha's from Louisiana. None of his friends live here. He talks about how he's only there with his family. But then there's randomly five people from Louisiana who also know him walk into his Burger shop with him I. We'll just take that at face value. I'm not sure where those guys came from. But they get into the scuffle with the with the football players because Tim and smash and all those guys want him to you know basically eat somewhere else other than the the hang out spot in. Buda uses a racial slur. Just out of nowhere right. And you're like Oh yeah this This was definitely put on cable before two thousand because this show aired on cable. Yeah so that's yeah that's definitely not flying. You're not getting anything. Yeah no you're this. This isn't a quitting Tarintino. Tarintino can get away with that and like Django unchained stuff like that. Right cable cable TV now not happening not having it. So then. There's the the scene where so in that scene Voodoo and his friends and smash are about to get into a fight. In the moment that Tim stands up. Somehow everyone is just terrified of Tim. Riggins which you know rightfully so he's the one guy who I'm confident could absolutely kick my ass. There's no doubt about it for sure but in my head. I'm like wait Voodoo. There's you and five guys standing behind you in you're worried about just Tim Riggins like ten. Wasn't brigands the peacemaker well. Okay Tim's Tim's always quiet. Yeah there are for the most part. He doesn't have much to say those. Are the guys got watch out for yet? Tim Watch for sure. Tim is almost gotten in a fight twice and both times. The other immediately backs down. And that was you know when smashes sitting in Jason's booth and then you know this one. Everyone is terrified of Tim. That makes me think that there's like stories that's like Oh yeah. Tim Put a kid in a coma. Yeah Tim broke into this House and beat the shit billion eighth grade. The Kid who died you know what I mean. I think there's those stories. Yes okay so now. My next question is Jason Street in. Tim Riggins the weirdest best friend Combo of all time because those guys could not be more different. Oh yeah no definitely definitely. We're in the whole Texas forever thing like we're GONNA which is a big deal at the time when this show is airing airing matt like Texas forever shirts like it was a big big deal. Yes no that and actually say I mean whatever you know gets them get for Texas but now they are kind of weird especially like I mean. My best friend had to happen to him. I would have gone and seen him. Yeah yeah no doubt took a short period of time. Jason is like a straight laced kid. Who's going to play quarterback at Notre Dame who seems to kind of have his life together and come from a good family and a well off family dating. You know a guy dating a girl whose dad owns a used car lot. So you know she's doing well and you know it. Tim Is my parents. Don't live at home. I live with my older brother. I've been drinking since I was nine. I haven't made a good decision in ten years like those who could not be more different and I was like what situation. Are Those two guys friends understandable but best friends an inseparable? It's really hard to imagine they out this window. He has a straight laced. Kid He's going to Notre Dame probably going to do. Nfl NUMBER ONE RECRUIT. Who better to be best friends with than the town? Bad Ass. I mean I guess that's true saying if anyone gives you any if anyone gives any crap you got your best friend who kick all their asses. That's true that's true. I just I just found that puzzling. Okay so the whole plot of this one is the the investigation with Voodoo. And whether they're gonNA have to forfeit the Arnett mead win they had in the episode before because Buddha's ineligible than that wind is not count. That's kind of the whole plot going on here and there scenes every so often cutting to that not very interesting but there is one scene. Where Smash and Tam and Matt are all in the Hallway at school? Deary school hours and just randomly over the intercom. I guess a secretary just announces that the Arnett Mead game is going to stand as a win just like during school like randomly making announcements about football outcomes. Did you find that as weird as I did? I cannot imagine that happening. Yes I was like okay in my high school the common off for morning announcements and if like someone needed to check out or somebody to the office they were trouble. That's it that's the only no joke. And there's no way making announcements in the middle of school hours and then like everyone turns into a frenzied celebration. Of course they did or you expecting to happen. No they won you weirdly shouted it out over the Intercom for some reason. Truly outstanding truly outstanding stuff Did you does your school year. School did do morning announcements over the intercom. Yes so this made me. I hadn't I hadn't thought about incomes in years because obviously I haven't been in school intercom an existed in my world. You have students read the morning announcements every day or was it always the same same person we did. We did have students read but I think they were. It was like pretty sweet gig. I thank you. It was like they were office. Aids. I think they they had to do the morning announcements for like semester. Someone else did but me now so our whole our whole my entire time in high school. We had the student of the week which is always a senior. And so if you're any good at math like there was not as many weeks or seniors so everyone was hoping to be the student of the week. You don't WanNa be like one of the because I think there was. I don't know thirty weeks in school. I don't know how many it is the and but but there was just like I was teetering amount where it's like. Two thirds of the class got to be student of the week but the the other third did not give me so it wasn't like it wasn't like a small minority that got the honor. It was a small minority. That didn't anyway. The student of the week got to read the announcements for that week during the school year. My senior year I we got a new principal who God love him. I think he's still there us a really nice guy. He liked me a whole lot. So this is not me railing on the sprints. I thought he did a great job but he decided that he was funny. And he wanted to read the announcements Man Yeah he's he's still out on that guy that guy so he likes started like writing stick like he had like he had like a tight five that he would run with jokes and written in between the announcements that he would tell it was just as bad as you could imagine. I respect what a power play right respect. That though like I've been writing lately I mean yeah easily. He's probably he's probably done like a an open. Mike wants that didn't go well. There's no doubt no doubt try this material. He's like I've got. I've been sitting on this material for years. I was trying to be a standup comic. It didn't work out so now. I'm a principal. This is my shot. Maybe it'll land with high schoolers yet. Maybe one of these highschoolers will grow up working Hollywood. They'll be like you know who's Hilarious my principal and then you give your told that joke. He told a joke about his dodge stratos. That was hilarious. It was so good he had he ended Ford Neon joke in there but it was just great. It just made me roll okay. So the toward the end of this episode. Tim sneaks Jason. Out of the hospital and in a weird turn of events Lila agrees. Come on the trip with Tim. Jason thing that was my whole thing like okay whenever they met him before the game and sorry. I'm getting a little before the game. Lila was there when they scheme jailbreak the hospital. Lila's they're like do they have to be like antenna and Jason not just like have one moment were by themselves like what the Hell is always have to be. There just be completely awkward. It's like that turns out that afternoon. Which POWER TO TIM? Who just handles it in stride? That had that's like the top ten most awkward thing. I can think to happen where you have a best friend sleeping with his best friend's girlfriend into they spend like eight hours together in close quarters. Yeah no I wrote this. I just I can't help cringe every time. Those three are just like hanging out chocolate up together and Jason doesn't know I'm just like But he does know end of the episode lasting. We see now. I will admit so I hadn't seen in a while. I couldn't remember if Tim so they dropped Jason. Back off at the hospital and then. Tim Is Driving Lila back to her car. Which I'm not entirely sure why that was happening because Lila just walked up to them in the parking lot. So how far because you possibly part? But Tim's go drive Lila back to your car. And they both get out of Tim's truck and they're walking the lyles car and they they hug it. I could not remember if they were gonNA kiss or not. I could not remember. So it's hard to put yourself in the situation but Jason Basically just sees them hug for I guess longer than he's expecting right and then like a little arm holding embrace at the end of it too. You know so. Obviously something's going on. But it's pretty clear that Jason immediately goes to holy crap. These people are sleeping on which is true but I would say giant assumption against your best friend and your girlfriend very much so he he was absolutely right. He is absolutely correct about what they did. But seeing that I don't know if my mind would go straight to like. Oh Wow ye- bet they're spending ICU hooking up. I mean he just immediately goes there. You can tell in his head. Would you can correct. I'm just my point is that clearly means that he knows A. Tim Isn't a good guy like he. He knew that from the jump. Y'All Yeah No. Yeah that's I don't know. Maybe they did they did. They did hub for a little too long for more than a comparable amount. Yeah so I guess I get it but still I. I would go straight to like. Oh okay right right okay. So that's episode six. Did I miss anything? I've episode six. There wasn't a whole lot doing on. You did miss something okay thing. Oh yeah the kid has said the guy the guy he used the one that got called the racial slur by video and then the the kid that Saracens friend just raves. Never see in the show again. That's it that was his one shining moment. He's done his APPs. I swear you'll never. He's never gonNA show up another episode which I find hysterical which he was like I mean he wasn't lying is like a you know it's just a football game right like in the grand scheme of things this doesn't matter like it's high school football game retirement. Hey Fair point. It does matter but I guess it feels like. I'm sure I you know I played high school sports. It felt like an exactly. Yeah exactly it felt like a huge deal in the moment so I totally get totally. Get kind of both sides then razz already pissed off from calling him that decides to take it out on someone who's way smaller than him way. More defenseless that's always a little tough for me to watch and even in a show just like some kids. Kinda like Kinda helpless really like he's harm east harmless. He's not going to do anything and then he just gets to ship out on by a guy who's way bigger so it's a little tough to watch it bullying. I will say a lot of these. High School. Shows have overdramatic CISE. Moments right like high school. Parties inclusion shows always look way crazier than they probably are in real life You know teachers always dumber. Students are always look like they're thirty but they're supposed to be sixteen. The one thing will say is that crap happens. And that's why I think it's so tough to watch is because there is like guys like Ray who are mad at someone else would take it out on a kid who can't defend himself like that crap happens all the time like you know. We've all seen that stuff if you if you've been in high school sports high school in general and I think that's why those scenes make me like make my skin crawl. No Yeah for sure. You know high school kid do when you're in high school you don't know anything that you don't know you don't know how to handle anything like your emotions like jealousy like all that stuff. You don't know how to handle any of that. I mean like I'm twenty seven. I still don't know shit about anything. You figured out man but no but like I can handle nine motions. I don't get jealous easily. I doubt but in high school like there was definitely that like you didn't know what you just don't know how to handle your emotions and all that stuff so we're really weird time so I get it but also I wouldn't just lose it and beat the shit out of somebody forever. He's going and then the fact that he lied about it and said the kids set a racial slur is one thing he does like a news. Press conference a live. Tv they're just gorgeous high school kids house and he's just going to. I mean just totally throw this other random high school kid under the bus. Then he doubles down. It's it's one of those things it was like all right. I'll write. I'm already dug my grave but I might as well. Just dig a little deeper. Yes yes and I mean it's just again. It's so weird to me. The News station is like we don't either prerecord this. We need to have live in his front yard with a camera and everything. Yes but those high school kid who supposedly got. Call a racial slur by this kid. He beat the hell out of. Yeah and just with an inch of his life. My other thing I wrote down was that just because I I hate buddy garrity I. I just might feel like my dislike for this character. It's it's very real. He is totally that guy when he pulls up to the jail when they go to talk to raise and he just pulls straight up to the front of the jail where it is is couldn't be brighter red in all caps. It'll Kaos no parking and he just pulls straight up along the curb he's just post straight up like in some vertical parking spot. This guy. He is the worst. That's incredible. That is absolutely right absolutely. I think the biggest shock about buddy garrity is finding out that he played football at Texas University. Yeah then I was like okay. That makes sense his actions. Make your he has to be like a fullback. Right telling me I was like us like a backup tackle. That got hurt. Yeah the backup guard got hurt right right but it was never gonNA plan you We see I. My junior year is supposed to be my spot by tore my labor and I didn't These seems like one of those things. Akron he is totally that guy. Yeah I call so we hit everything I think we got it. I got it in the end. They the end notes this last one at the very end whenever he says what they're in like deeper crap because booed turn them in right. Yes said that he had been there for two weeks decides. He's moving back into Louisiana which they don't really dive into how decisions made because in my head Hurricane Katrina. I don't remember this for verbatim but people could just like move back to New Orleans immediately after Hurricane Katrina. I think there was some time in between those things Yes but he apparently moves back doesn't interview with With the Education Board basically saying yeah. I was recruited. Yeah they paid me to come play football right so yeah the hammer is about to come down on the on the panthers now that that was it so this is GonNa be because obviously they lost the game. The second game of the year romance there is an extra played very well but they ended up losing. If this army aren't at mead loss counts. That's going to be. They'RE GONNA be one in to embody says in the episode and then our seasons just over the playoff structure is in Texas. But that's not Oklahoma. You can have four losses. Could make the playoffs in Oklahoma Benford. I was saying I was like this. Isn't this isn't college football. Where you know you lose two and you're probably not gonNA make it in the playoffs like no. This is high school. You should be able to make it with two losses if you gotta get on a run right right right time. There's immediately ruling themselves. Offer anything which I found fascinating acting like they are like they're literally acting like they're too about Get All right Matt Man. I appreciate you hanging out with me for another hour. Talking about a show that aired ten years ago. Three Shit did we. Oh my God we did I for whatever reason. I thought that it was a shorter. This time. No no probably Probably just about the exact same. Well we'll work on that. We're distant were consistent our other. We'll talk again next. Wednesday we'll do episodes Seven eight nine seven eight and nine. I'm looking forward to talk to you. Then hello baby bag.

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The South Florida Morning Show  HR 2   8-4-21

The South Florida Morning Show

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The South Florida Morning Show HR 2 8-4-21

"In south florida morning show with jennifer. Ross in bill adams on newstalk eight fifty w mt l. but in terms of shutting down. We're not shutting down out. We're going to have schools open. We're protecting every floridians job. In this tape. Protecting people's small businesses These interventions have failed time and time again throughout this pandemic not just in the united states but abroad they have not stopped the spread. What else he shed true glass so glad he pointed. this is. Because i know the media's fixated on cases true but overall we've kept alive. Isn't that the bottom line. Honestly when you're talking about it remember. Let's go back to win. The federal government did this last year where they went from deaths each day to cases because the death started to drop dramatically which was a great thing but yeah federal government didn't want you know in that. They wanted to make sure that you were scared. So they kept on saying. Oh well now we have fourteen thousands right cases blah blah blah two hundred million new cases and we know that was their plan again. We go back to. I think the most impactful project veritas. James o'keefe ever did remember the inside information the audio from a cnn director. Because oh yeah. We kept pushing the case numbers to scare people now. What's said it just to scare people and that's what they're doing. Cases do not mean depth. Right cases mean okay. Out of we had this analogy before. Say one hundred people fifty of them test positive. Fifty of them have no symptoms fifty. I don't even know they have it. Because they've been vaccinated the other fifty. Maybe they got a cold or our. I should say forty nine and then one the may have to go to the hospital. I two but nobody's dying. Yes there unfortunately there have been deaths and they say those are most of the deaths are people who have not been vaccinated. And that's what the cdc is saying. You know what. I tend to i scientifically. I tend to believe that. I think that is the best overall courses you know. More people vaccinated more. Things will open up but i still think it's a personal health choice. But they want to. They want their our government officials that want to lock down again nationally. They want to do it. Well they're not going to be able to do it this time because so many people have just had it with that. But they're they're trying. New york's pretty close to it. You know it's interesting new york. Just this changed this thing where you have to show that you've been vaccinated to get into a movie theater the mall a store a restaurant you name it. You have to prove that you've been vaccinated. Something can how are you holding this free concert. Then you're going to check the you're gonna check the status of sixty thousand people. They'll say you know what they'll say. Well it's outside. it's okay you may be real use that excuse you know. Maybe you're right if i could fit that many people in madison square garden. You know they did. They'd ever tougher true tougher out on that but they'll say well it's outside you know it's okay central park. You can't catch coveting central park. Yeah exactly that you're probably right but you brought up an amazing thing that's happening and i don't know how it's going to happen. Is rumors that they will be like. France like protests over this marching in the street. Will it happen or not. I don't know but there but these new york restrictions were you basically can't function. This is what they were talking about when they said a vaccine passport. This is it. You gotta show vaccination order a drink. Get a meal. Go to a gym. Go to show anything anything in in manhattan well and and it's going to eventually. I can see it. You know going through the whole state. So what about all the colleges in new york does that mean every kid. That's going to a college in new york has to prove they'd been vaccinated. That's a great question about other colleges. How's that gonna look you know when they start going back on campus here soon. I don't know you know what they can. They can all get vaccinated there a lot. It's didn't harvard demand that all their kids get vaccinated. I know there are a lot schools. Did it sounds like they would have a harvard. Move yeah i think ohio states on that one too But ohio state. I mean harvard's different from ohio state just in the capacity ohio state f. One hundred ten thousand kids. I mean they'll wanna kids go to school. Oh yeah i'm sure most would say well. The whiskey will get rid of the golden that much many cases talking about moonshine diener chime in good morning. What's happening will actually is what you're saying. Bill said there's rumors of protests and things like that in new york. I have actually seen and you might have seen it to the flyer that is going around. No i have not yes. Yes it's going around on social media saying basically. They're playing a huge march for monday at noon or one. Pm in new york city. We're going to protest against the vaccine passport that is essentially what it is in new york city right now. That's what we're seeing. That's how it all started in the protests marching protest thousands of people in italy france. On surprise your many yup owns houses still standing. I thought they were gonna burn that place down. Will this be enough. And this is why i know we talk about new york a lot. But it kinda dictates how people feel in the rest of the country quite often. Will this be the tipping point. For the for the states they start shutting they start making it unlivable for people who are not vaccinated. I mean is that enough is this is. Where is this where america's had enough. It's it could be a tipping point. We'll see monday. Because if i mean from from the flyer that i've seen they're really trying to get the word out there for people who are ready to protest this move in new york city so if gets a really big crowd on monday. It's going to be hard to ignore right. I would have to be the you know the. They're so concerned about impeaching their governor. They may not pay attention to what's happening on the ticker tape parade route. Think about okay. Let's see this is why i still believe it's a i got vaccinated. You guys did to just a personal health choice. But that's what it is personal health choice in my opinion. So let's imagine a an eight month. Pregnant lady lives in manhattan. Oh gee she can't go in to get a bagel right so that she gets vaccinated right at this point in your pregnancy. This is what you're talking about. Yeah and she doesn't want to get right Vaccine because she is pregnant. Abc's maybe she's planning on later but as of right now dare walk into that place. I buy a water. And that's what a lot of people are afraid of. Because you know. I guess either way in pregnant women rightfully so are concerned. They don't know right. There hasn't been a lot of studies that say one way or the other. Now from what we've seen it doesn't have negative effect on you know the on the baby on the unborn child. But if you're concerned. I mean you're going to go all the sudden analogous at eight months. Pregnant woman can't go into the dry cleaners can't go into a restaurant go anywhere because she's concerned about getting the vaccine because she doesn't know enough were mobile said full-term here. Let me get my baby up first. And they'll get vaccinated. She may be pro vaccine but as of right now doesn't want to get it now all of a sudden she some sort of leper in society can add this. I'm sorry can't do it. What about all the are. Is i think a big group is the The hasidic jews remember while arthur blasio was after them constantly because they you're right because he was trying to say that all the covert cases in new york city where their fault because it was a community that was not vaccinated. I was like wow. You just took on the entire jewish world. How could you do that. I and no one said anything. I was like. This is crazy. It's to get messy. Tell gonna get ugly. So you're right. Diener the reaction will be interesting to see if it if it actually is organizing. I think we've reached a tipping point where people are just pushing back. It seems it seems that way out. Soon look at even the former president Just recanted his big party. No big deal and what haha tear up our invitation. It just came in. And i'm really. I know what a friend of mine's the caterer not happy one of the two hundred caterers. Is he still having this to l. While we gotta talk about that well. I guess we're not going to the obamas on martha's vineyard that and we gotta get two more olympic stuff but cuomo not stepping away. This guy's a jerk amazing next morning. Show bill keep it here. It's got a feeling even though it's not friday yet it's only midweek. This rapid fire coming up at seven thirty wheels off predicting now may not be. I don't know. Karen corked unhinged untethered unfurled. Yeah righty those okay. Well president biden praising companies for requiring workers to get the job takes heat off him. Yeah forces private industry to take jason just announcer going to make. But they're going to pay him well. Clear workers knee net flicks fox. Google others are apple users focused companies. Yeah coke will be next walmart. Tyson food wow tyson though is if you're not vaccinated well remember because they had all that meat shortages and the chicken shortages or. They gotta make sure that the manufacturer. The plants are still working. They're going to get two hundred bucks a piece for getting shot. Pay you to get it. Tyson's paid it's mandatory. it's mandatory. So why would they pay the payments with these private companies to. What if you already got it. Yeah hundred bucks. You get rid retroactive. Little extra bonus check in the mail or something. I would hope so not all right. Well that more coming up in rapid-fire don't miss it ready to fight you seven thirty at rapid fire. What that's all about his news. We all chime in for that. One usually turns into a big lake Vegetable soup poverty. Much it is a news potpourri if you will yes. It is Stick around for that these little morning. Show there's jen diener. I'm bill and why was this interesting yesterday. First of all it all started with this governor cuomo sexually harass multiple women many of whom were young women by engaging an unwanted groping kisses hugging and by making inappropriate comments. That is future governor. Oh excuse me attorney. General latisha james. Not cindy but no charges at all these just the fact the facts they found in the report i guess. And what's even worse is. They're not criminal charges civil charges and and there are eleven women that came forward one of whom it was a new york state trooper who was unlike private. I guess detail for the governor Inch she had not many nice things to say about the guy with the hands and he comes out. And i'm thinking okay. The president said you should step down pelosi schumacher schumer. I mean you name it. any democrat. That was around with a microphone. Had to say yeah. We want him to step down all the governors and the surrounding states cuomo comes out and says it's a lie in fact i've produced a video showing i do this all the tides and italian thing. They can my money rolling in her grave. Here he is. It is meant to convey off hundreds if not thousands of photos of me using the exact same gesture Not the gesture reaching under. Somebody's sure sure. Yeah or grabbing. Somebody's backside You know what in any east right in the italian world in the italian culture. I go to a wedding in my family. Everybody's like that all about alone You know and that's all you hear from the old aunts and uncles and grandparents. You step out of that wedding. You don't do that. I don't come up to you and say committee bell long. But the start talking to you in italian and hugging and kissing you how i am and i've known you a long time and do that. I think even that would be fine with most people but it's this charges they actually fight e -pletely deflected off of that. The charges are like literally. It's groping is what it is. He's a pig. But this was a guy remember. All women have to be believed during the cabinet. He was one of the leading voices against cavanaugh. By the way. Send me the cavenaugh. Confirmation hearings amazing how words from the past come back to bury you in the future. Well that's not true. Oh yet is. Because it's bobby choice. It's just my favorite which we're going to change to her body. Mike joyce love it. We need shirts for that. Let's let's spread around the york for their protests. Coming up i love. You know it's it's just something about the way he wouldn't twenty thirteen where we just played there but old cuomo tweets about supporting women. They're just delicious today. they just are. What is it with the governors of new york. The the last one had to resign. Remember pitzer power He had those affairs with the kind of like anyway. Thirteen years fun. Wow so Leading democratic politicians leaders lawmakers. Everyone trying to get him to resign now. This guy jenny even said it yesterday to start with the news of the day given back in march you said that if the investigation confirmed the allegations against governor cuomo then he should resign so we'll you now call on him to resign. Given the investigator said the allegra women were credible statement. Are you now calling on him to resign and if he doesn't resign. Do you believe you could be impeached and removed from office. Stick with time. Don't push me too much. Slow down there to it's hold on you already. Got me to say one newsworthy. Thing really surprised. He didn't say slow down to what he was good. That sounded condescending to me like waiting for on their sugar. Jeez sweet-pea just hold your head a little hand going and everything. Whoa whoa. whoa it yet. Don't i you know you got me to publicly admit that i said this. Before and he was in the thing was he was caught because it was it was very publicly. Said so we couldn't deny it. Oh but biden still this. Here's a statement. He didn't retract as far as Governors responding to go to corona virus. Memory call them. He called the gold standard rhys except for all those old people killed in nursing homes. Fifteen thousand but you know. I was walking away. It's gonna. It's going to take criminal charges and i think that's the only thing that'll take them down. What what an all democratic state legislatures going to impeach him. Maybe but i don't know now. We had this little statistic About an hour ago. The time a governor was impeached in the state of new york by democratic assembly nineteen thirteen. Wow so don't be holding your breath on that one you're right. I don't think it's going to happen. And he's not. he's not the type to walk away. he's psycho god assist he is. He's crazy he's crazy. I'll tell you though did i. And i'm shocked. actually this. i felt the pressure. Because all we've been saying this. Is you know you got your invitation dinner. I'm sorry you weren't invited but bill and we're going to martha's vineyard this weekend i was gonna make dinner my plus one. Sorry dinner funny when you get screwed twice. Former president barack obama sixtieth birthday party which reportedly was going to be the social event of the hut. Five hundred guests two hundred servers. A hundred service has just been scaled back because of pressure in the rising corona virus cases. A shame now it only be family in very close friends so two hundred servers with all. I kept on thinking about was. If i'm the caterer i just went. Oh my god i just lost like the biggest event in my life gets ten servers to themselves could very well be but i should be interesting because i wanna see if oprah's still shows up george clooney are. They considered close friends. Live there to be honest with you. They probably have a standing guest. Bedrooms could very well. Martha's vineyard on vineyard mansion. Now does carly's do carly simon and james taylor show up. They were the only ones live on. Martha's vineyard that i knew of so. I would assume they're all friends. They're very very left. Thinking are they considered close friends sunday. It's not five hundred. People is probably going to be about forty people now but this is still outside. He's gonna helicopter is going to be surrounding that or they try to hide and put it inside. I don't know it's a mansion. So i mean he could probably has a dining room that can fit a hundred public public servants community. Organizer did pretty. Well what did we do wrong. Didn't go into politics the way speaking of that. In the obama money there is a drive for a presidential museum. Not just not just a typical. Each president gets his own thing right like a full obama museum in chicago and donations. Like he can't build it. Wow they want a public support for this thing You know what i bet you. They got it good lori halfway to their mission or rapid fire news coming up seven thirty minutes away. Karen's news and we chime in stick around for that these self-loading morning show this genome billons. Thirty time for jenna. Bills rapid fire with karen curtis komo news talk eight fifty deadly at t. l. Well look what has arrived rapid fire news. Cairns got all the headlines here and we all chime in. What's going on. Well the missouri governor. Mike parsons pardoned mark and patricia mccloskey. Oh yeah hey there. The couple that were waving their guns when a mob of protesters broke down there fence outside their home. Brian a private road mike. Glad people Yeah they contended. They were protecting their property from protesters. But they were charged with I forget what they were charged with. That's open they were pardoned. I think the funny part about that story. Other than the fact they were pardoned was they were told. They had to give up their weapons. Yeah and right after their their whatever their service time was done near community hours or whatever they went out and bought the same weapon brand new ones. Here's my new. ar fifteen. I was dying. I'm like wow. He's a lawyer so he knows what he's doing exactly was shoved right in their faces running running for public office. I had heard that too. I don't know what. But yeah. I had heard that. Pardon you probably gonna go ahead. Yeah good friends. This happened yesterday. Meyer attorney has done a response to each allegation and the facts are much different than what has been portrayed. I don't know if you're just a loving sweet innocent man so he's not going anywhere. He's not resigning even though the president told him to resign. The state attorney general announced the findings of a five month investigation hundred sixty pages of stuff and she said cuomo creators sexually hostile work environment but she declined to charge him with anything. Even though we violated she says state and federal law and that she believes the women you know at this reminds me of hillary clinton charges yeah violations but no charges charges i remember was like oh my god. He's going to charge her and then he's like well she didn't have tent and i think that's unless they dig up some criminal charges. That's the only thing that's going to get them out of there. Well that's really think because it's a it's a completely lefty democrat state legislature. So unless he's like completely on the outs with all of the democrat party like he's not socialist enough for them. I think he stays the last time by the way the current somebody was impeached in new york as governor nineteen thirteen. Well he's still there you. He was the guy in the point. He had or the black face talking about killing babies after they were born. But he's still there facing that guy skated understand protected and cuomo says that wasn't my intent but it doesn't matter sexual harassment. Sorry to tell you there's another complaint. I want to address from a woman in my office. Who said that. He groped her and my home office. Let me be clear that never happened. And didn't clinton had the the Trooper member in his hotel room. He did the same thing with the troupe. I remember that story. Don't you remember. I never had sexual relations with that walkman poor thing anyway Up to fifteen million people being given more time pay their rent. Because the cdc despite the fact that supreme court said they couldn't has extended the moratorium for rent for two more months to leftover third and that includes pretty much everyone in florida where the variant is the most help agency get to tell landlords that they can't get any rent amazing. Nobody wants to put anybody else on the street. But landlords of people to i health agent. We've got a health agency running a huge section of the economy now and daily life for people. We want this well. The cdc says it's too dangerous to put them out on the street with variants. Only god it's got nothing once again using this virus to rearrange society. That's all is. How else would you explain the cdc. I don't get it rochelle. Walinsky making decisions for four people's daily lives as far as where they live. No no more this. This is insane. Just curious guys as the cdc said anything about the flood of illegal aliens coming across the border not bringing covert into the country. Not a were not take them seriously unless they closed the border during pandemic can't they don't take it seriously. Did close up border from canada. Close that one cannot counterintuitive. This is the president experts. Tell us that we're going to see these cases rise in the weeks ahead largely preventable tragedy will get worse before it gets better hold on a second signet no notice the word craft cases are tragedy so i an increasing amount of cases is all of a sudden he tragedy now for the most part overwhelming majority of these people get completely healthy in a couple of days. He's symptoms here's the santa's on the case count. We are watching the cli. That is plateauing. The hospital admissions have slowed. I don't think we've reached the peak yet. But i think we're going to settle and hopefully this week or next week. So glad to hear him yesterday. Make the distinction between cases and deaths by the way. So i think from ben shapiro. You can hear afternoons here at eight fifty. He sent out as far as death scope. Death per one hundred thousand people. Florida leads as far as doing the best in the nation of all the states. We are number. We're doing the best for when you get down to it. Isn't it deaths that matter. Yeah into santa's said that twenty five thousand floridians who've been vaccinated have also tested positive for cobra. Twenty five thousand seven surprise me but the symptoms are much less than you're most likely going to die. What yeah and i agree with you. There you'll leave the hospital as they say I would be curious to see what vaccine the people who had the breakthrough cases received visors about to get complete fda approval. Oh and they're also going for that. Third booster come october. You're going to need another shot and coming up on rapid fire Obama had to acquiesce. Ticks us off. We're going we're going to the party. My invitation sent it out here because we're the valley workers but you're part of the two hundred service canceled this time for traffic and weather together. We have two left lanes blocked in west palm beach. Ninety five southbound blue here in boulevard with iraq delays. All the way back to northlake might wanna take military trail feline turnpike. You know current Cleared accident pretty much. Delray jog road at linton and another one at atlantic avenue in congress. Uw diversed roller weather while storms again. Today ma'am i love. It's great napping weather. I must say of these storms high eighty-eight ninety five percent chance of scattered showers and thunderstorms rain. Chances diminished marta. What like thirty right. jen gift. Goodness partly cloudy and seventy five in the palm. Beach is back to rapid fire bill. It's been wet humid. It's been hot. you don't have to worry about that. 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I'm going to wrap this nine Hey that undercover sting operation aimed on online sexual predators. Some with hiv nab twenty suspects by our sheriff. Our favorite grady judd in polk. County know what. I'm telling you. He's hiv positive. He showed off to have unprotected sex with what he thought was a child. Yeah if that's not the worst of the worst. I can't imagine how it gets hit. You also throw attempted murder charges adam. Then yeah it's illegal to have sex with someone if you know your status and and you don't tell them well but these kids. They thought they were going to be thirteen. And fourteen year old girls or boys this was on various social media platforms and grady judd. Says just about all of them were from central florida including three disney employees creepy. Hey happy birthday to barack obama. He's sixty today good. He does look good. He planned to celebrate with a star studded huge party twelve million dollar mansion thirty acre oceanfront. 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That can't find a date. I mean there's no or at least there's no interesting man. I was just thinking about china. How they you know. Yeah but you can have three kids. They raised the they raised. The limit. catholics. Are you still haven't like seven eight nine ten kid. Rock story is going on oprah. Bigfoot dispiriting catholics. Even friday yet you catholics step from you. People here rhythm method. Listen karen why we like to have kids. I only up to. I only had to like it. That's got guard. But i think recently retired quarterback philip rivers says he'll love fills he might return to the nfl over certain circumstance pay nineteen kids and he's catholic. I know he's got a ton of kids. Got out it there. You go either. Nine kids go. Wow he's got an offense. But here's the difference. He can't afford them right. I mean oh my god. I need a tv show to go on to you. Know to afford these children. It's pretty funny. Because steve harvey had like the season awards at the end of you know. Twenty twenty season and steve harvey was hosted. And he was like congratulations to fill on his retirement. And he starts going into saint phil. You're not retiring. he's like. I have seven kids. I'm still doing this at sixty four. You have nine kids. they'll be back next. He called it right by the way. I i know we're out of time but i don't care well. This defiant insult oprah. She did color big foot. I forgot says she's gonna eat all the under. Try to take the heat off me. And that's what i've been trying to do. Hence why she's called bigfoot. We're getting kissel. Big on trying to deflect feet reading taking home. Gold and silver medals in the four hundred heard of the four hundred hurdles has been the barn burner race of all time. It stresses me out. It is very stressful. Because this veroni of them sydney mclaughlin they changed her running style so she can jump over the hurdle with one leg or the other like right or left. Cain she gained. They said a half second or something. When you have a lead leg that you could switch out is flake the today show and she had. She had her hair beautiful. Both of 'em jenner hair tied back last night. She's got a lot of hair. You didn't see that during the race on ran a fifty one forty six. This is just oh my god. I can't oh oscar. She wasn't really looking at the clock. I just wanted to run all the way through the line. Everything i had. It wasn't the cleanest race. But i got the job. I'm really grateful to have the opportunities and all the gory goes to florida. Didn't she not grab the gold and set a world record. Yes she set a world record. And then you've got. Usa's tomorrow mensa stock. She takes home the golden wrestling african. American loggers bending love it. And i'm still have represented mic drop. Yeah that wraps up rapid fire. What great radio coming up next on the phone. She's not hiring you anymore. Karen forget about that. Job cuomo defiance but this is a crazy wild kingdom story here. This coyote chased and stock a lady in province down mass. You know we put it up on Social media and believe the remarks about this go. We'll get those remarks to. It's all coming up next the morning. Show this jenna bill. Keep deer creek. Jen take a guess. In what year did andy. Cuomo say this because it's it's always wasn't this year last year twenty thirteen. Okay wasn't far off twenty third. I love it. It's yes it isn't her body. It is my body my choice to do with her body as i pleases his new slogan. We need those t shirts boy. It's tough day for him yesterday. But you'd never know it by the pre produced video. He showed showing. It's just my culture. it's the italian. Ah let's start with the announcement. I guess i. Let's go back in time. New york attorney general and future governor probably latisha. James governor cuomo sexually harassed multiple women many of whom were young women by engaging unwanted groping kisses hugging and by making inappropriate comments but no criminal charges. Isn't that amazing. Only civil which was kind of shocking to me. But i was like okay then. He denied it all so never have. He's got this press conference and he goes to a video screen as he's narrating it with all these still shots of him just basically shaking hands or hugging basically newsmakers. One of them was clinton. She his reasoning behind this. It is meant to convey warmth. Nothing more indeed. There are hundreds if not thousands of photos of me using the exact same gesture. Do it with everyone. Every if i had listened to that voice every day jump. I really would. It's he's he's just a whiny shut up. He's making it free. One you know hugs aren't going up. Somebody's skirt and shirt. Yeah those those are the allegations and that's exactly what the allegations are in. Don't you dare making an italian thing you. He's like von. Did he actually call himself. I'm just a goumba is by. But you know what i okay. that's insulting. My italian heritage goes way way back. I mean. I don't think there's anything but italian by heritage generations and generations. I mean you know my parents came over on a boat for goodness sakes is so. I grew up with the italian culture. When i tell you we had family reunions. There were like seven hundred people at these things. It was crazy and every every name ended in an i own a just just so you know but i can tell you that happens a lot at talion gatherings all come as they go on and on shirts out they. You don't act like that wh- other than when you're with your family and close friends and relatives you at weddings at funerals. Whatever the case may be you. Don't do that in public. With people you know. Have i ever once grabbed your cheek. Instead gomez e bell. No no but there's always hope for some. I'm working to get there so he so he's defiant but even president biden is a little A little long but he. He stood by the statement to resign to start with the news of the day given back in march. You said that if the investigation confirmed the allegations against governor cuomo then he should resign. So we'll you now call on him to resign. Given the investigator said the eleven women were credible. Stubai the statement. Wow that's a strong statement to boy. You're not kidding you go. But then he said. Don't press me no follow on question time now. I feel like it deserves. Its own time. We might have to push this till the I break in the eight hour. Oh coyote attack in province town mass. It was like wild kingdom to. That's crazy. I know it was really. It was really scary. Actually and i'm thinking well. 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Ep.57- Mayor Duffet and the City of Canfield

Homes and Hops

43:44 min | 10 months ago

Ep.57- Mayor Duffet and the City of Canfield

"Homes in hops is proudly supported by platin- insurance. Your local independent insurance agency offering auto home life business and farm insurance. They also have a team of specialists. That help you with insuring your brewery or winery platin- insurance helping you protect your tomorrow. For more information or quote please call them at three zero eight five six six two four four or visit them on the web at platinum assurance dot com. Hello everyone. Lisa resnick homes and hops. And today i have a phenomenal guest with me. The mayor of the city of canfield mayor it. Now what do you go by. What just duff do you. So where does that start from by. Dad see-saw duffin. Obviously he wasn't a fantasy so so he preferred death and being the youngest I like hear him called that in my first name was is richard somehow got dickie and dick out that growing up so that is one of the names yes So just kind of stuck since really elementary school. Now you have a brother right. Yes i have to. The oldest one is bob. And he's seventy two grandcamp. President and ray is an orthopedic surgeon here in town and now do they go by. No ray goes by. Just ray my brother bob reverend doctor so i don't know yeah. We just call. How would you address like formerly a reverend. Dr earth you would you. Did you do the reverend first. And then the doctor because he's a phd. So yeah the reverend. Dr reverend dr duffy that's awesome. Yeah so so. I have to ask because i i always do wonder this. What because civic duty is not One of those often sought professions or or desirability for people. Because we do we we apprec. I know someone who is not into running for office. I do appreciate those that do because you are significantly important. So what was your pathway to. What was your pathway to becoming the mayor and that and that moment that you're like you know what i'm running for office. I think it occurred was in the military for a number of years and I moved back here. Decided to move back to canton. Which is my hometown after moving fifteen times. Oh i started work. My way back into coaching at canfield did that football baseball. But then couldn't do that and work you know it just was too tough and start having grandkids so then but i started golf outing. That was four one of our reunions. That's rain we started camping alumni till open the soy supposed to be one year lisa and so we did it and out a diamond back and we made like seven thousand house now. That was going to be. We just charge a little bit more. Did that today before the reunion so we were a little surprised at data only charging fifty two golf so we sent us to your to what we doubled sixteen. It went to thirty and then it went to forty five an hour up to the last two years we've cleared eighty thousand and all goes back to cancel school. That's absolutely amazing. And i remember. This is back in in in my heyday. When i was in the pta. Pto at that time. When i first moved back to the area. And i wanted to help out with the till and you guys have a phenomenal way Being able to garner the support from different organizations within the school systems of canfield and still be able to help boost their organization and their club as well which is awesome and how that happened was the first year was just self in john. Tory and we call it to till open because we were golfing for a number of years. She would just come back on the fourth of july. And you get a call saying hey tillis come back until we're best buddies played football and baseball together. And he's afraid jinyan right right he's going to be for g. I listen to your stories all right so we did this golf outing. Then we started giving money back and we were just going to give it to football basketball and baseball. Because that's when we played at times so then because of our success index success is because of the businesses and the alumni. Not not anything we've done but we thought well we got something here because it's the fourth of july and you know can't feel does big fourth july one of the best in the state. I came back every year for it. Yeah you're a good example. Then so what we say personally you. Pta's lisa come join our team in every hole that you sell one hundred percent goes back to the pta one hundred percent. And then how if you you have to attend our meetings which we keep doing our which at bellary. So twist my arm. Yes you're going to get a get a cold and then we'll we'll bonus you up and so that's what we started doing while the word got out and got a backup. I gotta give mr bernie the former superintendent credit for this we knew we needed a sponsor and can't because we're going to give the money so we went to him i and and i said to him i said. Can we borrow the logo or can the board approved that we can use to on our material and you know from being in sales you need to have a presentation. They passed it and then they went a step further and they said normally at the high school level the ad approved two fundraisers for the booster club presidents. And they're so mad because this is one night based and you guys outside we won't if groups decided to join you and they wanted alumni involvement in the school. they won't be one of those two approved its independent which is great. Because you do you. Yes when your organization that you're trying to raise money for whatever may be like for instance the band their trip to disney Being able to have that third option for them to be able to increase the revenue to be able to help kids be able to get. There is just it's great. And and in that in i have to credit the parents in the booster clubs organizations. I mean we. We help All groups not just athletic we've tracking athletics and arts and we give them one year. We i gave out where we gave out. Seventeen different checks because we gave the seventeen different organizations and they all earned it. It was merit based it wasn't like we feel it's like you do the work that's right or and so that's why it's grown. It's absolutely amazing. it's a it's a fun event. I was able to be the. I don't know i'm not a golfer but but i do. I do like to pretend to be one once a year. I got to drive the drink cart. All coveted job. I it truly is yeah. I found out that day desirable. It was oh yes s it. Everybody wants to do. It's it's a lot of fun that's why well. Yeah but it's so important because if our golfers there's a lotta golf outings and we need to cater to our golfers as you know we've sela now the north and south course no crew and they treat us great canfield and i love that you relocated to mill creek toss. I did that. Boosts the number of people signed up for it in the only reason that we boost removed. It there was. The diamondback was selling diamondback treasonous. Great in our overhead was less he asked but then we outgrew diamond bracken and we're going to move at any anyway and then. They sold that but they couldn't get us enough cards. This has grown those of us that are involved with it. We're all christian people and we explained it some bayer power here that wants to help because we give the special ed. We give them the veterans we give. We'll have somebody like let's say you're pta new of a family that needed money to participate sports or needed money to buy books and we have those in canto that people that need they just might not exactly so you could come to us it up and say hey look. This person doesn't want to be identified. But can you give us a thousand dollars to help out this family divorce situation. Those are the best kind we would give it to the person like yourself and then you give it to him so they we don't know who it is and that's the relationship. We've developed with pta with football boosters with drama. When now that we've been doing this we know and they can search out we. Just don't wanna give a bunch of money. We want to help. People help kids which is absolutely phenomenal. And it's necessary to have organizations like this and communities. I mean i just went through an entire month talking about various nonprofit organizations that we have in our area to help support and the tillis definitely one of them. Well we're we're fortunate in the couvert sus up this year. Bet you're still game on for twenty twenty one right. Yes we are. We haven't quo put up. Any brochure may feel like you can easily socially distance in in golf. You want to be around anybody who's to swing a club. What a thinking of doing. And i haven't done it yet. Go talking about creep to say. Can you get a cart forever golfer. Oh wow now that would bring in a lot of extra golfers. But we'll we'll we'll fill both them but especially if we say. Everybody gets their own golf cart. Not sitting at close next to him. No this is true. You're not you're not. If we're still in the pandemic. I i truly believe that by the end of the second quarter of twenty twenty one. We are going to be a much better position when it comes to the vaccinations and the pandemic economically will see but like when it comes to the. The health concerns that we all have. I think by the end of the second quarter. We will be at the point that we are going to start the recovery of everything else so that that is my opinion. Well i agree with. We got to prevent us. We gotta get to that point nine now. We're trying to do something about that. I now i also an avid proponent of and we've learned from twenty twenty is you can plan things out and have everything scheduled Then how to adapt the last minute so if it comes to twenty twenty one i say planned it all out planet all out and then if it things have to change here are able to to change it and if not at least you're not missing out on anything you're able to move forward. So what was your epiphany moment because we did we straight a little bit. What the tell. I was thinking of Running for the school board. 'cause i just had that connection to the school in my next door neighbor said well. You know you're can't guy military road for mayor and but he was retired. Here's the money. Lorenzo oh okay yes he you know get out of the car era like decided yet another guy named dave buyers and he was alumni a catcher baseball so those two were working on deny adalah then i had to start thinking about it because cardinals pairing up together and so then i started thinking about it and i thought stools you know being in the city working for the city you store working with the school and it's just a different avenue s right and the real thing between looking at that and looking at the fact denied been went to enable kademi. Was active duty navy that sort of countries saying you're serving your country in help them to school. Your servants school with the still open. But i never did anything for the city. So that was the impetus. I was just about to say i go. You're already part of the school system. And just a different outlet the nonprofit world. so. I'm glad that you had the neighbor that you had not only the fact that you were lucky to have a moonie alumni. Next radio myself next movie. Forget that's true so it's funny because we i mentioned this to you because i do a lot of canfield high school friends that is called camp or a cardinal wannabes. Does it go. The other way around with deputy goes because i was campaigning. And we have of mooney alumni some great buni alumni. Yeah i was really surprised at how much they supported our schools. Yes and i said well tell me why. Because i know you got to pay some good tuition and mooning their kids go to mooney some o- though go to campbell and they said you guys have such a good community here and your schools are so good. We want to keep the schools moving forward. So we're going to support your body was conveyed because we want to keep arthritis values up and don't worry about us and so i thought hey this tour and that is on the real estate side. Your school systems are extraordinarily important when it comes to your real estate value or if your home everything that you do like everything is all interconnected you can't you can't have crappy homes around a great school system and you can't have beautiful homes and crappy school system so i do think that that canfield has had that healthy balance in which which has kept strong and kept it as desirable as as it has been and and this is why the home values and canfield are higher than other home values and other areas. It's because of the strong school system and it doesn't matter if you are thirty years old. No kids forty years old fifty sixty no kids making sure that the school systems are still up and running is extremely important in. That's why you should always pay attention to the levees and don't just discount them because you don't have a kid that goes there. I agree but yeah. That's just that's just my little talk. People need to hear them. They they they really do so. You decided to run for mayor and there you are elected wait. What year are you in. i'm starting now. Did the clock ticked at twenty. This is my last year on my first term. How i'll have to decide sometime here. Do the petitions about running again. And i think i'm calling to. I feel like you should especially because twenty twenty right. I feel because i do. And in which i want to talk about too is in my mind. You are progress. F which is a compliment. Progressive your forward. Thinking would hope so. Yes you definitely are looking not just at at the city as what it is but you you envision and everything it can be and is not discounting what it is now as just seeing the possibilities and and it's not and you work towards the tail and we were deal. Camp deal was good before i became in ball. Schools were great city was great. So it's not like you're taking over you really have to wheel. So i'm fortunate here that my predecessor and made her closer the previous administration and those that came before the schools. They've all done well. So now we can these specific and you and you are. You see the gems that we have in the city and and you're trying to direct people's attention to them as well so let's talk about some of the plans that you have. Four the city of canfield. Well tell you. When i ran it was you know and i know you've been involved with politics. Swirled like athletics. In some respect and competitiveness to some interesting things to inner some surprises to one of the big things that people said to be. What do you do about mcdonalds. And is it prepared for that. I knew that that was an old mcdonald's. But i didn't know if became such a concern so we eventually negotiated with them and got them to rebuild. That was a challenge to get them to rebuild versus just upgrade and it was a change in ownership and that helped us but Having a senior center one thing getting the village green thriving thing dealing with the traffic dealing with homeownership. There's all kinds of things that you get involved with but But we have tried to strategic smartly ro- can't the not just growth for the sake of growth of revenue. It's been to do it smartly because people want to come here. People want to come here. And we'd like to say we'd like say well they come here for great municipal services on what we go to people like yourself. You're you got jordan and you want them to be in a good school. And i know that moody's school cancer. Yeah but cancelled. Cardinals are awesome. So you got user and watt folks moving to cancel because of the schools. We are definitely not without when you mentioned the senior center idea. Are you thinking of like the senior centers that you would see like insane lomb or over in painesville something like that. Well yes and yes but we were thinking of the senior levy passed here bali county and guinea some of those dollars an wok. People did know that the senior there is a senior center at world. Life luther church. Oh i did not. Yeah people didn't know that. And i sat down with those folks and they wanted to get it. They got started and then they wanted to expand. We were thinking something on. The green building was originally and we looked at that but revenue source of of challenge. And that's still a challenge thing so we're working on that but we that was an objective that we haven't met dispersed her. I know that the canfield schools. I believe that till is involved in this says while trying to raise money to put up that athletic center. Is there any thoughts to being able to combine that into both the senior center athletic center. Yes yes i sat down with. We started talks my first year in office with we had the head of the ymca. Thomas geese. who's a cancelled guy was. He can't feel superintendent of schools myself city manager. We sat down and we said maybe we could do a joint thing. The can't deal needs more for workout space for their teams and we need to senior center. And the why would go here. The why would go here. Are you starting along to the wide boardman. And i ended up. It was just couldn't get there enough it. It is so martyr away. Yeah easy way to get there. No there isn't busiest. go and let's face it. It's very easy to find any reason to not go and work. Yes i mean i do that. Best part of the reason. Why don't typically do gym memberships this. Because i'm your first person really nasty. No i'm not going to be able to make the frigerator starts. That's true very true or a good show comes on tv so with this twenty twenty one coming up and i do. That can't field has done a lot like that pickle ball court every and then you guys had the green being utilized with yoga and you're mentioning about three hundred participants a part of that yoga which is phenomenal. How you guys were doing the farmer's market every weekend are you looking towards getting everything ramped back up again off in fact we budgeted for auditions max. We already budgeted for. We want to agree to be the people screen all the all the greens the north the central in the south we want people to come and have their businesses there and have a business meeting and just come talk to us. Who do it. We we won a ceremonial area on the southernmost tip of degree. That you're coming from forty six. You're coming south of forty six passing michael's into cancel rate at that tipped really left to go to the beauty salon. In the right. You going up back knowle's which is a great place. Thank you on. The name escapes me. Thanks for the assists and studio oxygen. We're talking earlier about the marion. Ras all we vote the her name. I go there. I couldn't think of the name so we put up a sixty foot flagpole there and there's a huge america have you seen any have no idea love it. Yeah so we want. I love the green. Yeah we wanted to be a ceremonial area. Because as you know nothing is going on on that part of the green other than the beauty now. Want people to come there. That's in real estate. Might wanna brew your people there and have a picnic. Well i think it will be in real estate. So even though i'm on the commercial and now it's still just as important for people when they're looking for their businesses and they're seeing everything when you look at the center of campus as a great location for for a business to be and of course depending on the type of business but if your business that wants walkability you want people walking by your front the front building no matter what would it is than the really. The prime real estate would be the center of canfield Because if you've been around there you do have its sidewalks. And i know i often run around that area ally their park up by the mill creek park bike trim which i know and then i'll run by a fairgrounds and then run all the way down. You come towards the downtown. Yes i i would guess you divert right you go into the dairy queen do no no i don't i i wait for friday's school days when when i pick up the kids from school and say hey mom can we go to dairy queen or one of the great things that that we do in canfield is we. Just let our kids running from the school. The dairy queen or or the jr grinders so so and then when of course we get them afterwards. We need to have a nice treat for ourselves to yes. I mean just because we're adults doesn't mean that we can't great than the city kids your in. It's a lot because of our great police force the people that you could not worry about him walking down from the middle school as -actly employing the green. And you don't have any money. Is that gonna worry about now. It is a warm feeling that we do have the ability to to let our kids. Were free range if you will. Yes if anything were more worried as parents to make sure kids are behaving and that. They're not gonna get in trouble for doing things that they're not supposed to be doing. Dad's that's true but it's just so when we love to see kids degree it's great. It's just it's a phenomenal open area like you said you can. You can go out there. Have your lunch just picnic. Play put up croquet whatever it may be. You have that ability to do it. did you know that. The union army thrilled on the cantu village green. Now i know they were. They used us because you know we. Ohio was a key stake in nick. I canfield fairgrounds. Fair is on creating. You probably need that now. I did not know. I can't feel fairways around. Amherst agricultural a mahoney. County agricultural fair wasn't even named canfield fair and they did it on and then it got because we have the best fair in the united states new standard. No doubt is the best fair in fear. Board does a great job. You really do the credit. But that's how it got out to the fairgrounds. we outgrew. They outgrew the or we outgrew. Wow that's what. I need history. Can't you know we have art. Three cemeteries have over. Four hundred fifty Headstones of veterans because canfield was always a big contributor to all the wars because wholesome midwestern guys named gals now serving that want to the country. Well there's also the the museum at the corner while were which if you haven't been there and i appreciate the fact that the school systems has that as a field trip for for our kids because i got to be the parent. This time i did. This isn't a cool. It's is phenomenal. I love seeing stuff like that. And plus we also the coca cola house to which is pretty neat as well. I mean there's a lot of history you you do have that other house on court street and there's other places too. I believe the the old courthouse were the underground railroad. I mean there i mean. There's a lot of phenomenal history. That is located here which is which is pretty cool. It really isn't working on a speech now. The history of canfield. Oh my gosh. To give speech a couple days longer is all. That'd be the longest filibuster ever have to get it down to to be difficult. It is a money to give a handout. I mean think about like the transformation of the city from from when you're growing up to. I mean to the population that it is now the growth that has occurred. And then think about what it what it's about to become like you guys have so much development prospected in the future. I mean let's let's talk about that you do have Alpha palmyra yes. This millennial moments jed murder of twenty four west make a left done going south on south palmyra rate. There is township property that was bought by gentlemen a company and they wanted to develop it but they needed sewer and water. The city comes in but the township it was felon attention township so we can either an accident which attacks you wasn't jumping over joy about that i mean everybody wants tax dollars. That s are then. We did a joint economic development district which is a financial tool for cities and townships together. And that's in effect. Now that sign the commissioners have. And now i've seen the plans for what's going in there and it's very exciting. What about that. You have another area to don't use another half mile down is going be. The city bought this twelve years ago. It's red gate farm and so we bought it. We've been waiting for the time to develop it and now we van accent in his. That was on that other side. That's right western side now next into the city and we're going to have a nice development there and the new one which is were talking right before we went on air above the villas that are going to go in and so that's exciting now at the other ones. You're gonna they're gonna be mixed use right. Yeah so you're gonna have the residential porsche champion along with assam retail restaurants as well yes a little plaza senior design for little. If you're going west on twenty four and you go past palmira so you're still going so that'd be the editor in one of the entrances into that complex to be a little curved placid and they're all in and they'll be you know the management there decide what will go in but that you want to. At least that'd be commercial definitely working on that i'll start working. I'm mad. I sure and it is if you look at the way. Communities are developing. They often are. They'll like start often linked. I've seen in other states scenarios like even here whether it be on the west side of cleveland which is the newer side not so much nervous still newer than the east end then you also have columbus polaris all those other areas that they are developing and when they choose the area it starts off with your commercial and then we'll have smaller homes sometimes as condos or townhomes townhomes are basically attached walled style homes very very vertical and then and then you'll back into residents and the further back. You go of course. Alert residents is so we interesting to see the development and who you have because when wade was here he was mentioning at least with the redgate. One how you guys are hoping to have. Various developers come in and work together to be able to create that area. Yes and it's very very exciting because with the governor was in last spring and he had a meeting with issue and he brought his whole cabinet and an item meeting with education then he had a meeting with mayors. So i thought that was pretty cool in covers coming in so i go there early and must not have been around. Two o'clock which i remember was one o'clock two o'clock so wind would wind all. Yeah we didn't have any maybe because we all had to go back to work but I go in there in their one of their rooms and their governor the wide just standing there by himself is some of his cabinet was rod so got to meet him and talk with him and he's he really. I remember his quote. Did he said what we're doing it. L. g. cam and what we're doing that lower stabbed motors. I could tell you with working with them. And now they're firmly. Common is once in a century lifetime for this area the voltage valley and he knew about canfield attended are fair and he says you guys are good position against those people to move in and so that's as city mayor that's exciting to hear. It's horrible. I forget the gentleman's name of lordstown but he is one of those people that you that you hear him. You see his actions. He just doesn't say he's going to do something. And that had not happened everything he has said he's going to do in. This area in the valley has come to fruition and just recently he mentioned how he is going to make lordstown motors bigger than gm. In its heyday. And i believe you know if you would've said that a year ago if you would have heard that you were on you might have been scratching your head. But i believe that too. I believe that too in and it's such a good space is in. Lg kim on top of that. That's right. I know the mayor of of worse down. And he's a great guy. He's in he's done a marvelous job tracking and they have the other businesses there they do and more in with i'm with their voltage and like it's just such a great symmetry and we all i mean we're called the valley for a reason is because we all feed off of each other and we all need each other. You can't let one side down and expect yours to keep being propped up but so it's great to see that happen and how we're all going to honestly reap the benefits because of it. It's interesting because we also know you're from here is very parochial type environment. A lot of pride and can't a lot of pride and boardman poland youngstown mooney. So you have that pride in those communities in schools and then now you're going to work together with the public officio competitive stuff in. There is nothing wrong with a little competition. No i go to these meetings and you know what the all work together bipartisan. And you think it's just political talk. But i'm seeing that and seeing what's good at borgen should help anti older vice versa but we we think that can't note has so much to offer you definitely do and not only do you have these areas to be able to develop on but you're also offering incentives yes for people to to be able to build on whether commercial or residential right that is corrective when we have the cra community reinvestment act. That's a state program. That's a tool to help. Businesses and residences get developed and. I'm sure we all have seen over the years. Where you travel. And you say like trenton new jersey you comes to mind. They rebuilt trenton new jersey. That's not that wasn't the best area. But how did they do. Their state had some tools so the downtown could make nice waterfront or whatever bike park and so we have these tools to in we are going to start using them in cancel to attract the right business. We're not trying to track walmart or not. Yes woes or any of those nerves. Those around we're trying to find a niche community. Maybe even our tesions. Those types of green greenish fantastic as we want it to be bustling to be thriving after five o'clock right now. There's not much dairy queen up there. I like to go to the deer creek. They've gotta get diverted. This is true. It doesn't help that you also have kim's confections the car sturge neither love today because my jaw my goodness. It's so good. I love it. She's she's she's a great local jam now. He's highly educated. She didn't graduate from your knee. Look younger than me. But i know. She's just a cardinal. Of course ted. So we are nearing the end because of course the mayor is a busy man and he does have his other meetings although i could go on and on and there's definitely some areas that we hope to hit and maybe he'll come back on again. We'll hit those topics so beautiful office. She boy thank you he liked. He liked the podcast studio braces tech. Thank you yeah and you gave me a comfortable chair. That chair is super comfy. Says this. I'm definitely not comfortable. Okay so are you ready for the nut. Rapid fire round all right. What is your favorite. Can i change this everyone. What local beer brewery would you like to see in the city of canfield the the coasters on your burnt fashion. And they've had one aboard things who Bird fish is absolutely phenomenal. And they were they were at. When you're fall festival. Yes they were there actually the first burry over on the green yes. That's right and they were grew to deal with. I mean they are awesome by neighbor up the street. His name captain milk coker and his nephews one of the owners. Wow came up with a captain milk. Beer christly dead bias there but all right. What's your favorite local restaurant. Boys and obvious is right up there. I now jetties is up there. Jerry up there engine. Et is up there females. Do i look like i. I you dialysis. So i'm not being politically correct. I like them all like all food that you know so i tell you what that is. What's great about canfield. We want to be a destination place locally for food and we tried all about more plays than we've tried in bars that are high end out door. So that's the answer. And which by the way is super keep at pre pandemic rene. I've said this many times our industry and what people want. Actually when i started working at low enterprises in dc back in two thousand and seven. I went to the building museum and saw the schematics of everything about how we were going more. Green and developing more outdoor space usable outdoor space for people. So one thing good about this pandemic. there's there's definitely other things that came out. Good from it is that it has pushed us faster in the direction of having that space and making sure when we create new development areas and communities or one. We're looking to relocate to certain areas having outdoor accessibility for patrons is super important. All and the new the green so there. Yeah that is a really good point. Yeah because isn't it fascinating to see. This is what they've done due to apps. Restaurants are headed. it's amazing what has also been great to see is in colombiana. Did this like the extension of the door a to see the private and the public world working together to help each other out the door. So doors your designated outdoor recreational area. I cannot believe i got that. Can we need to do. Yeah cancel we. Definitely do i am major proponent of dora and having first fridays and everything like that i am a huge proponent of those activities i but obviously i enjoy socialization so i enjoy getting out there interacting with people and seen seen our neighbors out there so i love it. I last final question. What's your favorite local gem. This may seem why issue football there you go to me if people say. Let's go down ohio state. let's go to the browns and the pittsburgh. I love going to the wire she football. Why issue tailgate out the atmosphere and the hometown university. So i think if you have gone to a why she game gone early and see all you are in the first person to stay and you are right. That is a local jump in our area. Oh i mean not every community and city has that right there. Oh yeah is. How often were the national champions six times there are president now yes six times and they won four and i was at the three of the three of the four day one. That's absolutely awesome. Yes we love you trust. All you've done wonders thank you. He's been good with working with. Lg cam motors. He was dead meeting. Knows someone with governor. I mean he's been absolutely fabulous for community where we are very lucky to have him back here and at as the president of the university living cancer. When he's done he girl season join his beautiful home there on campus now and it is beautify. Love that. I would love a tour of the inside of that building. I will thank you very much for coming on and we will see you again today. Thank you for having me and we appreciate all your involvement in the community. We liked it. You're one of less than can't thank you and your kids to go camping out so you are. You're becoming a kind of slowly but surely gonna get you some swag one camp field share to see subsidy sway into careful curtis there. You go the movie stuff. You could put thank you already.

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S2 E3 Road Angel P3

American Road Runner

38:47 min | 1 year ago

S2 E3 Road Angel P3

"I just want to wake up every day through a leg over Moscow and ride roadrunner American road runner stories from the road on Road and off road whether you are a rider renter racer or just a weekend warrior. This is the show for you. You've found US my fellows and now your host Bob Myself Yes. Welcome back my fellows to this. The American roadrunner motorcycle show. I'm your host and author of the Book American Roadrunner Bob Marshall Fellow Rancher router and racer here at the American road runner show. We share stories from the road. We're going to get into that in just a minute first. Let's talk about the big White Harley in the room for just a few minutes seems we have a bit of a code situation here in this country. So what are we doing about it? Obviously the governments are very interested in US staying home and not spreading this virus around and I think a lot of it goes back to World War One and the Spanish flu and all the troubles. We had with that. If you ever get a chance research that in the meantime no that I don't have any of the answers for this. What I can share with you is what I am doing. I am getting rid of a lot of stress because I've been working a lot. It's a lot of freaking work to try to keep the government open when the doors are closed as some of you may or may not know. I get to work as a mechanic and take care of all these very tall buildings here in downtown riverside so I have been riding. Oh sure I've been rat in a bit as well playing with my typewriters transpose in a few things you know. I'm real excited about releasing another book someday soon but in the meantime the answer is writing and riding so I hit the road a pack a lunch a pack of Coffee Thermos and I just go and I gotTa Tell You. It's been wonderful. Yeah I got a refusal. Sometimes I stop put rubber gloves on you know Ref- you'll swipe the card. Take the gloves off. Throw them in the trash receptacle and hit the road again. It's been very rewarding and very exciting to get out on the open road an enjoyable. Whatever you may be doing in this situation do it. Whatever makes you comfortable but I gotTa Tell. Ya eaten up miles without all these cages in my way has been pretty freaking exciting. A quick big thing sell the truckers and all the suppliers. I see on the road making sure we got everything we need to keep our country open and moving. I know personally I don't get out much. I've learned I mean not going anywhere really hasn't affected me and it's real exciting to hang out at home without my ban on my face because when I'm at work I'm whereby Bandanna all the time the thing is when I'm on a motorcycle wearing my Bandanna lack I do through you know all the rainstorms keeps rain from hitting my face so hard all the dust storms Arizona or shoot even in Palm Springs. We get 'em though regardless wearing a mask without a bunch of air flying atrophies has proven to be very different. Lucky for me I had eight Bandannas or something I know. I've given a few away to friends and fellow roadrunners which has been great so every day I come home and I get to make sure my band or washed just like my undershirts or washed and ready for work. The next day we got some exciting things on the show today. We're going to wrap up part three miss road. Angel Miss Lilac Lefleur on the Graham. She's got some exciting exciting things to tell us about her future as well as her views on social media so this is GonNa be cool before we do that. We're GONNA have ourselves just a little bit of a contrast so I'm going to give you a quote. You're gonNa tell me where I stole it from. I topped it out. I got it right here on this lovely piece of paper. The quote is if you run from technology it will chase you if you know who? I happen to be quoting quick. Send me an email Dm facebook message. I don't care you're pigeon. Motorcycle carrier whatever. Let me know the answer. Who originally quoted if he ran from technology. It will chase you so just a quick. Can't it was not me. This is all I wag package. Track package includes signed book. American road runner. I happen to actually have a free copy in my house. I can send you along with some cool stickers bookmarks and the condom the condom that the book comes in when you order it off of the website so very excited to send that out again the first person who can tell me the Any way possible. Who said that? You're in in the meantime. I'm very serious. I hope you and your family are healthy. And well your loved ones are doing well and boy this virus. It just hasn't peaked yet at this time. And so it's been a very different but I gotta tell you. I'm taking advantage of a on road. No I have not been pulled over. Am I breaking the law? I guess but who knows who knows at this point. I'm Really enjoying getting out and enjoying America's road they're all for us so without further ado part three road angel American roadrunner motorcycle show enjoy. Mattiello's tell me about social media. We had Start of a good conversation about that earlier. Who I'm very excited at you. Empowering you onset regard of social media did really good okay I mean for both ways. Yes Oh currently I. I don't have any social media Which I think to some people is a little bit strange because I was very present in social media especially during the two years I lived on my bike that I was out riding all over the country in I guess I got a lot of followers of people who enjoyed watching my trips and stuff Says I was very present and even so even with my accident I was still pretty president and I was taking it. I was using social media to show others. Like you know this side of motorcycle writing. You know when when those who go down in injured pretty badly like how it affects us and Shared most of my recovery. You know from the week. I was hospitalized in being in bed. Rest after major surgery I even Remember the stories. I passed it but I would even post when I felt extremely overwhelmed Like emotional of how you know. My freedom was taken away like not only from not being able to ride my bike October. Total whatever but just the basic things that were blessed when we're born like walking. I've been walking my whole life suddenly to be taken away from me and especially that I just established myself independently in a city. I I don't recognize her. I don't know that well like it. Just I felt really trapped Social media was there for me to show case I guess to everyone How been going getting through it And it also helped me to be in contact with everyone else around the world Were In the US that I've met like murder a motorcycle. People that I met from all my trips and everyone's been really great Telling me you know while wishes and speedy recovery and I really appreciate those who you've been like message me saying you know if even if you don't feel like getting back on a bike any time soon just know that it's okay like you got to heal at your own pace kind of thing and helps me a lot because a lot of the people that. I am friends with our law older than me and I'm still you know being twenty five. I think I'm still a bit naive. I feel like it's always the end of the world. Something bad happens my older older folk friends teach me like now like this is just part of life you go through your ups and downs and you can get there But recently I think I've just been going through so much with this recovery That I decided for my well being to be office social media and it's been actually really amazing really helpful also from For about three weeks I pretty much did it like the the New Year job. Yeah and I didn't do it just 'cause like oh it's a new year. Let me try it. I was just happening. Just happens to be when I was a going through that mental phase where. I'm just like overwhelmed. I felt kind of paranoid. Like putting my information out there so I think I just I just did something for my so Ma favorite. Were always a digs. Took it me some inside joke? Hey Look I can walk. Hey Look I can walk with remember what it was. Those are my my favorite post of yours. Yeah I mean no for the most part might post vary like cheerful in like hopeful like that. I was doing really great but I mean I think it's kind of obvious. Most people just post like the positive things about their lives and even though I have been posting some of the bad parts to like you know just teach. People are show people ups and downs in life. There is a lot more downs than I wasn't sharing obviously and I didn't feel comfortable to share and it wasn't helping that because I believe because I was posting a lot of hopeful things are I was getting messages people kind of determining how I'm doing You know just because I'm posting that I'm taking my first steps. People are telling me like I'm I'm good to go. May Okay like you're back to your life again and I I get it. They mean well by what they mean but like it. It made me feel lonely because people don't really know what I'm going through currently So even a social media is there to connect people It was actually making me feel even lonely because I didn't really have a deep connection with someone just have like an Internet connection so to help me develop deeper connections with the friends that are close to me. That's why I decided to be off social media in put more effort to contact my friends through phone phone calls or texts like what we're doing right now like. Hey I'm going to drive an hour and a half to us so we can hang out and catch up so much better obviously than a dam. Over instagram tell me about your future man. My future finish school. Yeah I know. I definitely want to finish school rods. More skewed around. Yeah I think so especially that I wrote for the first time today. It'd be Kinda Weird. If I ended up not on a bike anymore. 'cause I have tim? There were moments where I thought I'm done with motorcycles. Like I don't WanNa do this new more. It's not worth it But I think I am going to get back on a bike and I think this point I kind of made like barriers for myself like I don't think I'll commute to school anymore on it. I think I'm just GONNA be on a bike to do my long distance trips And then maybe just a couple like group rides with my girls over there but when it comes to commuting. I think I'm GonNa stay back at this moment. You know there's always public transportation for sure or you could buy car so upset. I mean I wouldn't buy a by air. Sorry so used to saying by bike by car but because of the location I live in Milwaukee with the weather crazy weather like I think I got a car. Angels been hanging out without a car just to box parked in her little parking spot apartment complex there. So Yeah Yeah Place News. I guess the motorcycle girl also Zen girl ride motorcycles. No cars just two motorcycles. Big Beautiful Harleys down to one the futures Brad for you lady if I may be so bold. I'm very proud of you. Thanks what do you think you. WanNa do when you grow up when I grow up if I ever grow I don't ever want to grow? I don't know I'm I like a lot of things I mean right now. I'm going to school for business Concentration in marketing so be somewhere in the business field hopefully in the motorcycle industry. Yeah because I'd love to give back. You know for what motorcycles done for for me. Happiness and freedom and stuff. I WANNA give that to. I don't know deserving brands share share the love of motorcycles out to the consumers. So you hear that if you happen to work in the industry and the business slash marketing the answer is Miss Angel is available and she single so she's not gonNa be hang on. Let me call my boyfriend. Let me talk my husband about it. L. No although it's been my opinion young women like you don't stay single for very long so I think you're gonNA be just fine. Locked Arlen trying assuming jerk sometimes thanks did good stuff and there you have it Miss Angel Finder on the Graham Lilac left floor. Let's get to some more exciting stuff. We're going to be sharing a few of the Rodwin Kane a day stories here in a second and a might have a cool little poem for you after that. It's always good to have some good road bohm's before that just a big thanks to some of our sponsors supporters partners in crime gasoline and coffee always one of my favorites. Because as you all know I sure do. Enjoy a cup of their delicious octane. Coffee Room find them on the Graham or on their website. The big shout out to the awesome dirty radio. Fm download the APP to clicks Bam. You're playing music commercial free. Enjoy that because I know I do. Okay here we go and in this time people have absolutely been killing the ride one candidate just a few things you need to know before you ride one K. Today let's keep it simple because less paperwork equals more miles. Take a few photos during the ride. Submit them on the web form later. You have twenty four hours to complete a minimum of one thousand miles on any two-wheeled motor vehicle. All riders must document and submit their own ride. Even if it's in a group take five photos or so of gas receipts next to an odometer total miles not trip zero miles two thousand miles and three in between if you go beyond one thousand miles and want us to count those to take a photo when you're done date time location and Oto Miles must all be present and clearly visible in all photos. Check the gas receipts for this information. Make sure you get them photographed. If any of this is ever a problem. Use Your best judgment to provide undisputable proof of all these scenes. Have you don't have an odometer because I know most of motorcycles don't that's okay. Take the same photos as you do. Gas Receipts with your motorcycle in the background. All locations on gas receipts must plot a minimum of one thousand miles when routed on Google maps. So you take a picture of your receipt when you start you. Take a few pictures between of those fewer seats. You take a picture of your receipt when you stop and your motorcycle. I know I do. Of course I think I just had him on my tank bag but it was pretty beat up so it's pretty obvious. It was mounting bag. It works do the Self Challenge. Kill Yourself Thousand Miles in twenty four hours and above all have a good time. So there's this guy. Sd underscore real estate crushed. His Third Rodwin candidate for this year. His goal is Herreid a one K. In a day every month for this year. He's been doing it. So here's what he wrote about his third ride. He ended up finishing at one. Thousand zero seventy two miles in seventeen hours. Twenty six minutes. That's one thousand seventy two miles seventeen hours twenty six minutes but when one hundred miles more to get home so he writes like a genius. I decided to wait until the day before my ride to get the bike ready and then realized on a Sunday after everything had closed that I needed a new back tire. You never realize how shot they are until you need a new one. Yikes can't believe I almost decided to go anyways. I chose the postponed one day but after leaving the shop I had that invincible feeling you get after putting on a new tire and having the Bicol prep so I decided to hit the road. Anyways I've been wanting to expand my reach of these one thousand mile days so I figured no time like the now. I grabbed a cheap room. Some wine pizza and called it a not. The next morning was exactly what I had hoped for. That feeling when you're already on a vacation not that rod and out of San Diego sucks but it's gotten pretty utilitarian first world problems. I know anyways it felt awesome to start the ride and already feel well underway riding along eastern. Sierras is always amazing. Seeing the mammoth mountains completely empty was trippy. After that I started to wander through Nevada on more than one occasion I spent more than an hour on the road without seeing a single car or business a whole lot enough in which totally hit the spot crazy though to be fifty miles from nowhere and see a single house and realize that person really doesn't lock to be bothered interesting. Things I saw on the trip deer elk an empty ski resort endless mounds of army bunkers in Hawthorne Nevada housing who knows what the shady lady which is apparently a brothel closed a few years ago. A couple of town so small. They didn't have a gas pump. And the lots of Vegas eighty miles away on the other side of a mountain range so brought. It looked like sunset by the end of the day. I was tired and questioned my goal of twelve one cases here by the next morning. I was planning my next one with full enthusiasm. Hashtag get busy living hashtag point Loma seven. This guy is freaking killing it. Good for him. I'm not too sure exactly what his route is. But it looked like you might have started in Victorville gone over to Baker up to Austin Nevada in the middle of Nevada. And then come on down through mammoth and eventually back to San Diego Way to go Mr. SD real estate. I gotta get this guy on the show. I mean he's just cranking having too much fun. Whoa what about Mr Rancho Cucamonga? Here this dude knocked out his third one K. This year so that's two riders going on every month for twenty twenty Craig crush this one on the smallest back on record. I am so disappointed in myself. This guy I get all excited personally about my Honda rebel. This guy killed the ride one Kane a day on a Honda Grom. That's one hundred twenty five. Cc's he routed it. On Google maps to avoid highways it equaled one thousand and two miles in get this twenty two hours. Thirty five minutes. Oh my Gash Mr Rancho Craig Manga wrote. Don't be a Douche and try to raise a grown. When you have a Hammy another one in the books keeping on schedule for my one a month this ride comes with a little twist. I was a Solo Rad. Second round was with a passenger of course but this one was on a hundred and twenty five C C frigging Graham. Many were skeptical. Thought it couldn't be done but I did it and I am proud of the accomplishment. Thank you for those cheering me on now. It wasn't really about choice that I rode the Graham. My harleys been in the shop for almost two months but I wasn't going to let that stop my goal of making it happen. I didn't even make excuses. I made a route avoided all highways. Didn't get to see much except farmland and back roads but I still had a dope experience. I wrote that Graham like it was a go-cart with total disregard. Those around me see at the next one. Well done sir. Holy Heck and yeah. He started like east of Bakersfield. Took all backroads up north round the mountain through the woods and ended up up north and town called Cottonwood California man. This guy's killing it okay. Onto the next one Mr Nicholas crushed this one K with his father. One thousand forty two miles in eighteen hours seventeen minutes. His father will have photos well. Well let's see what Mr Nicholas said. This is so freaking awesome Ma. I ride one candidate personally. Yes I did with my pops. This dudes killing it. Got To ride with his. Pops doesn't get any better than that. Nicholas writes. This ride begins with a false start. My Dad and I started from home. My brother road with us a bit out of town before turning back the plan was a loop to wind over and back to Susan Ville. The weather was great until Reno where got cloudy and cold in Austin Nevada. We'd been rained on and I couldn't feel my fingers or toes. Outside of Eureka. There was freezing rain and when we reached ally it was dark and I was shivering badly. I'm not trying to laugh. I've just totally been on this road in the situation myself. It's not fun realizing we wouldn't make the whole loop. My Dad and I decided to hotel up and figure something else out in the morning. I was bombed that I had to quit that. Not but when we decided to try again the next day. I'll failed hopeful again utilize rustic in as great by the way. Yeah I know I've been there a few times. It's cool it's affordable and clean that morning the true one K. Ride began and we went south towards Las Vegas Highway. Ninety three the most deserted highway I've ever seen but some other rock formations out. There are amazing agreed. We pass through Vegas and got rained on again from the Hatch Abi Into Bakersfield. It warmed up and everything was green. The air smelled like flowers for miles from bloom and trees in the orchards. After a spectacular sunset we wrote up ninety nine in the dark. Unfortunately most of the ninety nine smells more like manure than flowers but at least it was warm. I could feel my fingers toes for a change. My Dad's back began having trouble starting after gas stops so he left it running at all times. Well done sir. We saw the COPS rundown speeder. I hit a pothole so hard it moved ear and I hit a poor rabbit but otherwise the rod was uneventful until pass Chico Deer Creek. Canyon is sketchy. At night. It's curvy known for deer and foggy at the end. Luckily we didn't see any deer entail much closer to home. We rolled into town about four thirty. It felt great getting the challenge especially after fail in the day before but ultimately I rode one thousand four hundred forty seven miles in under forty eight hours. One thousand of that of course within the same twenty four hours. I'm pretty proud of that. Heck Yeah Man. This is so I get so excited. When people share their adventures like this they literally started from me. La Went Down South through Vegas Bakersfield Man Rod on a backup into Susanville Calif. Congratulations Nicholas now. We're getting to the Super Cool Dad Post so chuck. That's dad rode with his son to crush one thousand fifty three miles in eighteen hours. Fifteen minutes here is his story. I was twelve when I got my first Bach- a Kawasaki K M one hundred. I fell in love with that back and rioting became a passion for me to this day. I'm very proud to share this passion with my boy. Nick is a Lassen. Hotshot wildland firefighter for the Forest Service. We have to do our rides in the spring before the second week of. May when he goes back to work he bought a brand new two thousand seventeen Donna wide glide in two thousand eighteen last year I took them from Susan. Vail to Florida and back. We wrote about five thousand miles in three weeks and we had a blast this year. Nick asked if I wanted to do one thousand miles in twenty four hours to Salt Lake and back. We left Susanville at noon on four nine. Twenty twenty and the weather changed drastically from what we had researched. The rain started. Then the temperature started dropping below thirty five degrees. Needless to say even with rain gear on we decided to call it when we arrived in Ely Nevada. Nick was very disappointed. We plotted a new route. South to Vegas over to Bakersfield California up to Chico California then over the hills to Susanville which gave us another thousand miles in twenty four hours challenge if he was up to it. Nick was very excited about the idea. And we headed out the next morning at ten. Am On for ten twenty twenty. The weather was upper in the forties and low fifties and raining off and on until we got to Bakersfield. California was the rain stopped and the temp stayed in the mid sixties up to Chico nearing home just over the mountains for the last leg of the trip almost immediately. The temp dropped back down into the low thirties. And we had to ride with our visors open partially see because they were frozen over inside and out to add to the fun the fog. Roldan around Lake almoner and we just knew we were GONNA hit a deer. We made it home at four thirty. Am On four eleven twenty twenty. We parked the box and the shop and skipped our plan beer-drinking and cigars to celebrate our achievement and headed install. This is great and headed instead for a hot shower and bed. Another great experience. I got to share with my boys and I love of riding motorcycles. The students so frigging cool. Well Done Dad Loyd at imail underscore hotshot crushed one thousand twenty nine miles in twenty one hours forty nine minutes then. Five hundred more and under thirty six hours to get back home. He left from San Diego and medicine. Michael That's Hollywood rebel six six six in Sacramento who was crushing the same miles but out of Vegas and then. They parted ways embargo. More on Michael. But first let's hear from Lloyd. I needed to get out of the House during these trying times and a one K would be just the thing to see some sites and stay away from everyone else. A friend of mine was in the same boat and so I invited him to come along with me as such a thing would naturally be improved back company. I'd ridden up through San Joaquin along the five before indefinitely. Did Not want to repeat that so. I chose to go around the mountains along the coast via us. One on one and California one. This proved to be the absolute best choice as a weather was immaculate. The improved air quality from the lack of drivers lately combined with the recent rain meant the hills in southern California where greener than I'd ever seen them and I could see further than ever before though only for a few minutes after every guest up because the bugs were out in force and I ended up wearing a not insignificant amount of these the rest of the day's riding went smoothly originally planning to go all the way to Dunsmore. We made it as far as lake head before deciding to turn around and make it to arrest stop at lower elevation before it got dark. We grossly underestimated how far back the rest stop was and wrote in the dark for a little over an hour. Before polling in my comrades struggled mightily with Canada Tuna enacted a science experiment known as M R E. We both eventually defeated our opponents and enjoy a meal before stringing up hammocks outside in the rest area and catching a little nap. We woke before dawn and road south. My trip odometer turned over the magic number Sacramento as we got onto the ninety nine for the next leg of our trip stopping for gas a little further on down the road we briefly rested before continuing on for the five hundred miles and the road back home. Well done Mr Loyd and ask promised Michael at Hollywood rebel six six six who met up with Lloyd M L. underscore hotshot to share the road for a few hundred miles on their ride. Here's what Michael had to say. My Buddy Lloyd hit me up and basically said let's check out Chesa Lake at sunset. Just like Jesus. We rose for the occasion and not only to do one K N a day but following up with a total of one thousand five hundred miles and under thirty six hours. Why the hell not I set out from Vegas and met him outside Sacramento. We blasted up north to catch the sunset and turned right back around a little HAMMOCK NAP and a rest stop and then we were off to finish the last two hundred miles with seventeen hours three minutes left. We parted ways embar so California and I went on to finish the last five hundred miles and under thirty six hours. I can't say it was fun but I can't say it was bad. It was just one of our days in quarantine. Don't worry we practice social distancing responsibly. Happy Easter well done Mr Michael and well done to everyone who happens to be listening. Who May or may not have already completed their Rodwin candidate again facebook instagram. Click on the link. Go to the website. Fill out the stuff. Make It happen Rod. One candidate is a good one as promised. Some backer poetry to leave you with this. One comes from our very own Nicole. Valencia the female and better in my opinion Voice of American roadrunner motorcycle show. This is no hands by Nicole. Valencia enjoy fellows poetry from the road. No hands I hit sixty six in the fifty five. At seventy seven I came alive rushing crushing and loving the ride patterns swivel twisting that throttle. Pa Your excuses fuck your bottle fuck all the things. I've been that I'm not. This is me. I guess what I've got. Trees Glow by peripheral glance. Worrying impairing catch dance and the wind. And I we kiss I hit a Carolina pothole and settled back in. This road is just for me. It's hard to think of a time debris a time to remember. A TIME. Degrees no distractions just my knees. Iq and speed. I hit seventy seven and I am free. No hands I hit sixty six in the fifty five. At seventy seven I came alive rushing rushing and loving the ride patterns swivel twisting that throttle. Pot your excuses fuck your bottle fuck all the things. I've been this is me. I get what I've got trees glow by peripheral glance worrying empowering my braids catch and dance and the wind and I we kiss I grin hid Carolina pothole and settled back in. I am all this road is just for me time to think. Time debris a time to remember a time to grieve. No distraction site just my music and speed. I hit seventy seven and I am free and wasn't that awesome And aren't we excited to be graced with the presence of such poetry? Yes it was so nice. I play the twice. Just a big. Thanks to Miss Nicole Valencia. For All she contributes to this show and the world of Motorcycle Riding G. is a pretty darn new. Rider is pretty neat to see all that she does okay. We're GONNA get sentimental for a moment. We had a birth in our Moto universe. Yeah Yeah they happen all the time but if I may be so grand. 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