36 Burst results for "Debra"
Fresh "Debra" from WTOP 24 Hour News
"Good morning, I'm Mark Lewis. And I'm Debra Feinstein with the top local stories we're following this hour. Montgomery county police have now arrested a 32 year old man following a standoff in Silver Spring that lasted throughout much of the morning. The tense situation came to a peaceful end as Christian Johnson was arrested. Police say he had fired a gun from his apartment balcony on castle boulevard near Columbia pike, then refused to leave his apartment. We did find a rifle and live ammunition. Share a golf with Montgomery county police. We do know that he was prohibited from possessing a firearm in the state of Maryland. Johnson's four year old child was with him, but was not injured. Police negotiated with Johnson for 5 hours before making the arrest. In Silver Spring Nick eyeing Ellie WTO P news. Area police have been using them and now hundreds of federal officers across our region will be required to use body worn cameras.
Debra Burlingame: I've Lost Faith in the Political Class
"Something about the Democrat party today in this president today Where they are unmoored They're absolutely unmoored And you watch Kamala Harris she is a blank slate I mean they have no compassion for people like you or the people who've died They really have no connection that I can see and watch some of this on Sunday It was appalling Well I have to say I saw vice president Harris I saw leaders of the party in New York I saw a President Biden standing just a few yards away from where my brother's jet was plowed into The Pentagon a place that he worked as a reservist where my father worked as a career military man I saw him stand there And yet and these are the same people who dismissed 9 11 as an inconvenience and they I think what they do which is the most poisonous of all They actually advocate for our enemies when it comes to when it comes to the people who are trying to destroy this country foreign adversaries They advocate for them And it's not just a possible plea deal It's Iran It's China It's Russia I really have lost complete faith in the political class And I would add I've lost faith in the Republican Party because I feel that they are not vigorously going after the interests of our nation It's too election year to election year
Debra Burlingame: One Party Views the Other Party as a Threat
"The way he is going to arm eventually the islamo Nazi regime and Tehran with nuclear weapons When you look at the way this man conducts himself he seems to hate Republicans more than he hates terrorists more than he hates genocidal maniacs What is it just easier to attack Republicans than it is to actually stand up and be a real leader Well I think so I mean I think that our country is now at a terrible place where one party views the other party as a poisonous traitorous Body of people who are threat to the country And I think what's interesting is if you read Sullivan basically his recommendation has always been to accuse the other your enemy of what you're actually doing And I think that's what we have here But I would urge my fellow Americans if you remember 9 11 if you remember the images of 9 11 the incredible loss of life the incredible destruction that the cost of the country the heartbreak the idea that the Biden administration would offer these men who by the way a plea deal who by the way in 2008 they called themselves the 9 11 sure council they elevated themselves calling themselves a sure council and they said they wanted to plead guilty And be put to death They have embraced their guilt They have embraced what they did already they filed a legal paper to do so And now you had their defense attorneys for all human rights lawyers Saying that they're too damaged
Debra Burlingame: The Left Loves Using Clemency to Pander
"What do you make of these negotiations for crying out loud Well what I think is happening is they simply they want to end this They want to they want to take it off the table They wanted that from day one But it's something that is I think characteristic of what the Democrat party is become And at least our Democrat leaders they love giving clemency as sort of a pan to the left They did it with the weather underground people They did it with the FAL which engaged in something like a 146 bombings killing Americans cops they blinded to bomb squad comps They pulled up all these things They were all given clemency by the Clinton administration Even Carter let off the Puerto Rican nationalists who opened fire on the Senate you know shooting 5 senators one guy got shot in the chest He gave him clemency They've been sentenced to 75 years So I just think this is it's a weakening our country but when it comes to 9 11 that is beyond the pale Mark we lost 3000 people We sent our men young men and women to war 7000 people have died in the war on terror That's military Tens of thousands have been maimed loss of limbs undergone unbelievable hardships from their wounds We can't treat that as a nothing
Debra Burlingame: Dems Know They're Using Smear Tactics
"What about this theme from the Democrats and the media all day Sunday About comparing Republicans and Trump supporters and conservatives to the terrorism on 9 11 Have we lost our minds We have lost our minds And by the way it's not only a poisonous false comparison They know it is It's a smear And the whole January 6th supposedly committee and all that That's a major brush back to intimidate Republicans and conservatives but are basically your normal Americans You see things the way the way the world really is from participating in the political process That's really what this is about And it's deeply offensive It's more than offensive It is the greatest threat to democracy That's facing us right now Basically trying to take out half of the country from participating in the political process
Kathy Griffin Says Republicans Will Start a Civil War
"I want you to understand to what extent that they can dish it, but they can't take it. I want you to understand to what extent that they really are not sorry. They only sorry when they get canceled when they get caught. Listen to Kathy Griffin, defend the fact that she had a beheaded face. They called it an effigy of beheading of a president of the United States of America. She literally had his head silvered with blood all over. Fake blood. Wrote a clip. You apologize. You were very upset. Are you no longer sorry for it? Correct. I'm no longer sorry. The whole outrage was BS. The whole thing got so blown out of proportion. And I lost everybody. Like, I had Chelsea Clinton tweeting against me. I had friends. Debra messing from Will & Grace, tweeting against me. I mean, I lost everybody. And so I have been through the mill and I also, you know, I didn't just lose one night on CNN. My entire tour was canceled within 24 hours because every single theater got all these death threats. I mean, these Trump fans, they're hardcore. They have like robocalls, and they're a minority, but they know how to act like they're a majority.
"debra" Discussed on Wisdom From The Top
"Began to kind of spark this desire to become a leader?
"debra" Discussed on Ask The Health Expert
"Deborah Atkinson, welcome to the show. It is about darn time. I am so glad to hear you. On the other hand, yes. I know. So for everyone listening, I've known Debra for years and she has got this awesome brand all around flipping 50. How the heck to and this is something that's not addressed because I got to tell you, I think I'm not alone. Most 50 plus year old women don't want to get exercise instruction from some 25 year old booty shorts. And a jog bra, right? Am I right? Can I hear it? Amen. Amen, amen. And so you just tackled this one, which I'm thrilled about, but the other day, something was coming up, and I saw a post that you'd written about eating an exercise because this comes up all the time in my community, people are like, and it's a super confusing situation. Like, do you eat before exercise after exercise? Don't eat at all. Should we be fasting? Like, what the heck do we do? So I know we're going to tackle this today. And I am very excited for us to do this. But before we get there, what got you into all of this? Because I actually don't know. A midlife crisis. So that's a whole number show. But I don't know. This for me is year 35, literally. This is when I change my major from graphic design, and I knew it wasn't quite fitting in because way back then, everybody smoked and drank if they were in graphic design, they stayed up online. And I was like, I can't do that. Can't do it. And had some great instructors. So the short story is, I was like, I want to make other people feel the way I have felt from these fantastic instructors. And of course, it starts being, you know, I want to look good. But it was like, how do I felt whatever else I could do? And then I thought I got my older adult client. I thought I got my older females because I was raised by older parents, had older brothers and sisters. I was doing research before I knew I was doing research. And then I turned 49. I was like, oh, wow. I really got it. And I flipped my world upside down. I quit my job. I wanted to have a bigger reach and I said, I'm going digital. We've had some really good luck here in the very conservative, very Midwest. And if we can do it, anybody can do it. And I realized I want to help trainers connect better. But in order to do that, I've got to still be talking to that market myself and demonstrating I'm doing it. I can't get irrelevant. And just be talking, right? So as I was doing all this research and then I panicked. I quit my job. No insurance, no safety security. I left the university, all of these really secure things I'd seen from a dad who worked for 40 years and then got a clock, you know? And nobody does that anymore. And I realized I've got to pay college tuition in 8 months. What did I do? And so I locked and changed myself to a keyboard. And went from exercising for hours a day, typically, to I'd let myself maybe a way for 20 minutes. And when you do that, of course, you make every minute count. So it became more intense. I was simultaneously researching it online, what to really happening during perimenopause menopause and beyond. And then I was, I was this study of one. I was literally my demographic, totally stressed, totally panicked, and beginning to have things under the hood change. And hearing from all kinds of women, nobody gets us. It's not working, what used to work is working anymore. All that cardio is definitely not working. Or from those women who thought they never had to do anything. Now suddenly they are aware I've got to do something. And they think they should go hit the hardest CrossFit class. Exactly. Exactly. So after 14 months of about 8 major life changes 8, you know, and I hadn't counted on 6 of them. I signed up for a couple, but I was just like underwater, literally. But I was in the best shape of my life. I looked better, felt better, and it was 20 minutes of exercise that was helping me balance hormones and balance the stress. And I realized I've got something here. I've got to share this, and that's really flipping 50, take it any way you want. But I flipped my life, and then I worked really hard to talk on every platform about how other women can flip theirs. I just love the whole story because I look back when I was because we've been doing this the same amount of time. It's crazy. And back in the leg warmer days. Wow, yeah. Oh yeah. But then, I had clients, my clients were 45 to 55 years old, and I think now and I'm like, sorry guys, gals. I didn't know, you know, and they're really, wasn't information about this. I was in graduate school at the time, all the studies were being done on college age, mainly guys. And 39% of studies still are on only females, right? So we've got like 60% of research is still on males still on young hit fit males. And so we really got to look at what the heck is that, my gosh. So what do we do? I know you found some, but I think a lot of what we probably learned in this is by working with that clientele and kind of understanding what happens with hormones. So what are you seeing with women? Let's not talk food yet. Let's just talk exercise. Women heading into menopause in menopause. What are some of the big exercise mistakes that they can make? We're still you nailed it earlier. We're still spending way too much time doing cardio, or we're on Monday even sure eat qualified as cardio, going for walks, which I'm not going to throw in with a bus. That's a good thing, but thinking that you do the same speed the same distance, probably the same route every single day. And, you know, you're not getting results, but you're going to keep doing that. There's something has to change. Here's what I do walking as we all need to buy to everyone should own a dog. I'm looking at mine right now, who's sitting there pouting. I will farm mine out, glad. Everyone should have a dog, and you should.
"debra" Discussed on The KTS Success Factor (a Podcast for Women)
"Be available to women who are more junior than you or even your peers and people you might see almost as competitors. I think we need to really be supportive of one. Another or you proactively doing that for other people. Are you offered up candidate advice. And information and resources to help women maneuver and also think it's just really important to share your own experiences in your own struggles along the way. We can't pretend that this is all been easy for us. We really want to help. People understand the reality of the challenges and what they can do and also are you using deep the influence that you have to help create the changes that are needed in the workplace to make them places where women can thrive. So if you've been lucky enough to have great female role models and people who really cheered you on in your career. You know how important invaluable that is and if like many women. You haven't had that you know that. That's unfortunate and it sucks but we we can really change that cycle so we wanna think about you know. Think about what it would have meant for you in your career and we want to seek to do that for other people because there's a lot of. There's a lot of great talent there. That's being underutilized. Right now. terrific terrific idea debra. Thank you so much for being with us today. Thank you so much for having me sir. But a real pleasure. Thanks for listening to the keiichiro. Success factor podcasts. For women. If you like what you were hearing please go to..
Special 9/11 Episode This Friday
"Tomorrow. Show, of course, will be spending some time on 9 11 at 7 30 Eastern time We'll have our dear friend Debra Burlingame on the program. Um As you know her brother died was murdered. On flight 77 out of, uh And of Reagan National It was horrific. She's a lawyer. She's brilliant. I've gotten to know her and And so we'll be having Deborah and as well as As our anniversary program. We'll be getting into some other issues as well. I don't know how you can ignore Afghanistan. The Taliban. And what's happened 20 years later, and we won't ignore them. And we will talk about these things and more and as well as Is your participation. It's a big deal. The N Y P. D. How they've been attacked and undermined. 20 years later. Just shocking. Just appalling. So you want to be here? For all three hours. Um No brag. Just fact. I think we handle this better than most. And why do I say that? Because my broadcast career started in New York. Most people start in Podunk I started in New York. And the great W A. B C when it was part of the ABC radio networks. And I think the station As well as other stations. But this one in particular has got the fourth ownership, maybe the fifth since then. Uh, But we're steady Eddie here and we'll we'll continue to talk about it for the whole nation.
"debra" Discussed on Slow Flowers with Debra Prinzing
"I could see where a lot of things depending on stage of harvest. This grateful edge on the on the stem of the annual. Or whatever shots. You're kind of building or you have things like your amarante that be a flower works exactly. And if i i'll be very honest if i am light on filler that leak. Those leaves stale amarin absolutely. Yeah you said. Also that you buy from other growers as well so that feels in what you're when you don't have available exactly any started that in year two when i was agai- grandfather's garden it was a small space and i'm not gonna say we blew oppor. We went viral. But we had more customers than i could accommodate with the quantity that i could grow in space. So that's when we started going to seattle wholesalers market of which the blessing as you and i discussed off camera earlier. And that's kind of where that started in since then i've been able to build relationships with other local farmers so i go to the market when i need to but i can also call martha the flower barn. My friend olympia or loads of people around here. That's amazing it's just such a dramatic change from even five years ago. When in this you know were what about fifteen to sixteen miles. South of seattle also grows more guy. So it's not like just in your backyard. You have to be intentional about it right it. If you can't get up there you have other options has sorry network so the ecommerce thing really me that you built this ordering system on your website and you're showing people types of arrangements but they're not ordering specific arrangements so great you call those how do you how do you How to break those out so basically we have arbat on there in two different sizes or we will. We're launching this literally a week from today. Oh great has we did hire a designer to come in and do this for us. Really excited about. It will anticipate exactly so. We'll have our to bill k. Sizes on there and then we'll have probably four or six different sizes of arrangements and basically we will photograph them throughout the year to give people idea what that size arrangement or bouquet with look like in different months from year. So that's how we're going to do it and we're going to let them know that Pretty much every design is desires choice working seasonally available. And that's the magic of it. yeah. I love that. That's how we're going to do it. the waves fredericton. We're having lunch was really neat. You said it's for people who want the florist experience. But don't wanna have you know the unpredictability of not knowing who's actually grown flowers and they might know what the picture on the wire services half looks like but that's not necessarily what their bouquets either exactly exactly and if you're not gonna know what it's going to be it might as well be local and seasonal. Yeah yeah that's so great so you Fill your own website is like something that you are. Seeing people use on on a desktop or mobile or both or i think mostly desktop. I'm need to optimize it for mobile. Better that's again. Something on my micro orderly list your today. Yeah exactly exactly so. I think desktop you figure out how your customers want to interact with you. Because you're still. I would imagine accessible enough that they could call or text if they needed to absolutely. We have a farm phone number people call in texts whenever they need anything and we also have automatic text message reminders. for our subscribers we We have a newsletter. When i make time to get to it which i know is something other farmer or flower farmers so i don't feel too bad But yeah we try to stay really connected on social media and email texan all of it. I mean your brand is so beautiful and engaging in it's really your personality. And i i don't really you have to tell us your your path because you did allude to the fact that you have built websites for much of your adult life so obviously the right skill set for that but tell me about your past to flowers. A little girl. Who's father grew. Slow oh thank you. Yeah i think flowers were always there for me. When i was young. I inherited a home from a family mother member who passed away and all of a sudden. I didn't need all the things that most people need it. So i'd have a birthday. People would say what kind of what kind of get you. Just buy me flowers in the has to be full flowers for a week. And then when i got into my twenty s living in tacoma and i had the ritual go into the market and getting flowers every week i was single on. It was like my thing that i did for myself. I developed a relationship with local florist. Somebody could just go to say. Hey it's my mom's birthday or what have you so. I had a flower practice. They were always there in the background. But what. I was actually doing in my teens. Twenties with building a lot of individuals skills for entrepreneurship and a lot of creative things to like photography website design. I think it sort of a millennial thing to do to be self taught in all these different interests that you how this amazing that you're using all these skills that you maybe thought. I'll support myself being photographer. Earl support resolve billing websites. But basically you're supporting poss- flowers with those skills. Now exactly they all come together into one thing and it feels really nice. Is it a fine that you talked about being a millennial in that you want to be self taught i mean. Do you think that that's why youtube is blown up. So much is like everybody can learn everything on youtube. Absolutely and i think millennials realized it a little bit before older generations And they just kinda graphical ran with it and then of course now jen's e- they. They took the ball somewhere. Millennials are lost down the youngest age of baby boomer. So i mean. I feel left in the dust already by but this idea of youtube. You mentioned as well as something. You're trying to build up because because you are aware of how people learn Consume information right absolutely and and i see a lot of hunger for it especially after the last year and this is probably a topic. You're tired of speaking of but the last year has created such a hunger in so many new gardeners people want that self sufficiency and they wanna be able to bring beauty end their lives without having to rely on hours getting shipped into the grocery store. So i i'm not saying i want to make a bunch of money off of that but it's something where we want to be able to share journey and teach along the way. So is your husband during the youtube with you as well. I know they were there. But mostly i shoot on my phone he He helped me find this really wonderful system called moment and they create lenses that you can screw onto your phone so we've been using that to shoot some video. She'd been really nice because it's still mobile. So what does that allow you to. Do you turn your phone into a just a better better film camera or right. So i spent my whole life shooting on dsl our cameras in their big in their clunky. They work wonderful But this allows me some of that professional level quality video without the cumbersomeness of the setup. Yeah and not to get all beauty gritty. But i wanna know like. Are you using a selfie. Stick or hari doing power film yourself. Yes so right now. I just hold it with my arm but my husband's not super happy about that because we invested in. What's called a mosey and it's it's basically again gamble. Yeah so yes. It's it's their. I need to but could you fill yourself using. Be okay could yeah. Yeah it's just you're you're you're wear so many hats it's hard to stop long enough Create systems as we were talking about with this video. Format trying to do. Yeah you know yes..
"debra" Discussed on Slow Flowers with Debra Prinzing
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"debra" Discussed on Slow Flowers with Debra Prinzing
"Mater everything i have your except for one thing is out of the gardens. I liked us. Glass faces to me. They're a great way to recycle reuse plastics. Not my friend. I've never really liked plastic uh-huh and so i like us glass One of the first things. I learned when i started is i would go to portland flower market and i took every class. That all those Frank adams the wholesalers. Yeah right all of them. Offered in. So i would drive the three hours i would take the classes they offered and i learned about armature i learned you know every impacted. It wasn't all my classes you know so it was. I would drive an a for a long time. I drove back and forth to portland to the market to get my product just to have for weddings and events. Every week i would drive. It tell you know the wholesalers then started delivering here for like fifteen dollars in my on a happier because i don't have to make that six hour drive. That's a whole day. That's crazy and then come back. And then yeah. And so. When i first started though i knew that i had educate myself. I knew had to take classes. Because i mean i wasn't an expert at it and so the first big class that i took i took classroom. Polyp practic the san francisco flower market. And i left the tri-cities which is like forty five minutes away at like four. In the morning i flew to san francisco. I took bart i walked. I got to the flower market. I took a classroom paula. Pryke in that was one of my favorite classes. I have ever taken to this day. I took the classroom. Her made the vocation. Showed us how they do your they wrap them in paper or plastic tissue. You know the waters in the bottom. I dumped the water out in the airport. Carried it under my seat. Got home at like midnight that night. Gosh but it was great. I mean because if you don't educate yourself and learn that's kind of keeps us going. I think i think that's so smart. You've studied with a lot of people. I in addition to paula. Pryke study with ariella czar. Max's skill david. Beam a saba alicia sweetie francois's weeks holly chapel like you're you're willing. You're not letting your sort of isolation in a smaller town keep you from from educating yourself. And that's kind of what i had to do. Because i knew if i didn't do that i was going to be in trouble. You know because you can't nothing stays the same or you. Don't stay on top of your game if you don't educate yourself The last I've taken some online classes from on. Allison ellis and. I really love her. I think she is great he. He's a slow flowers member too. And i love her Kind of business focus which is also something that is that you have to educate yourself on. Oh clearly i mean there might call it helped you know the agee convert until you get your hands in and start working. It's a whole different game but yeah she was great the last then. I've been to like the floor abundance. Designed as in santa barbara. That was great. Yeah took my husband was nice to go for a few days The last class. I've taken the. I really really enjoyed was Just a couple of years ago with joseph massey and learn the the three five eight thing all of that that they teach in europe which you know and that really resonated with me. Now what i might my bridal case i make it out of the twelve wire and vote and do the whole process. It is changed my bright okay game. Oh my gosh armature it is too so worth it but yeah so is that he's been a that was a great resource use great. I had him on the podcast when he was teaching at the would be flower. Workshop three or four years ago chris. We're gonna post this sh- this episode at deborah printing dot com next week so maybe get a few photos of some of those book as you're talking about That you can share. Because i i love this show that who soon would go ahead. And then i'll i'll hold by questions. Okay so i had my husband give me names. Because he's the plant person with Yeah so this is tinus witchcraft. that's okay then. I got his campus over. This is About some his miscanthus rate here. That i'm getting us and i've got some healing. Hannam sees work mardi gras pretty in the gardens. I do have. I harvested some apples off of an apple tree that we have on my sound echinacea. Here's my blue thistle. But i heard suggested the gardens on agassi sunflowers these apart from the portland flower market. So i still trying keep support local Even though it's three hours away from me. But i know that you know a local farmer grew this in the area cannot use those so i will just keep going and you can ask me questions and a ramble. Why i'd love it. Well first of all that could thomas smoke. bush color is so almost. Like turquoise is so -til it's it's definitely a landscape plant right right inaccurate. We haven't in green to please. don't ask me what. The variety name is in green. But none said did you pick any green like nah just at this. You're is your green right and you're telling me how much how how much How popular that is as green early in the season because people don't really know what it is. No and i think when. I told you is my husband's on the fair board last week. They asked. Oh we need twelve centerpieces for vip tents unlike. Oh great as walking through one hundred and seventy wilder and looking at everybody's know little mason jars of some flowers. That are drooping. And i'm like i can't do that. They're going to be out there for four nights so just went into the gardens. I can't see him. I folded a leaf. I put it in a jar and you know what they held up for. Four nine hundred seven. It worked out really good. Everybody thought fabulous. They thought they were. You know a succulent and you know it was great. Yeah that's cool. i love you know. Nice and cheery didn't drew. Yeah it makes you wanna i two and a half plants have to seat him autumn joys and one that's kind of like almost dead makes me wanna plant more because you have a massive it in your garden and I would say we probably fifty or sixty plants you know but we've got five acres and we have landscape shrub dead's in our rental as well and so. That's exactly what we're doing. We still have some trump bids to fill in there. I liked it. We don't really do rows of things my husband's not a row person And so i would every time we see something like oh we need to plant this. And he's like okay. We'll put it over here so so it's all integrated into the borders and beds. That's not Not a farm. You don't have a. I would not. I would love to have it in rose. I'm more of a row. Walk down a clean rogue at your flowers. Bring him in. But you know it's an adventure to walk through the gardens ling and just pick and choose from that because every day something is different. You know what you I think i saw you talked about using clear glass face but i think i saw you put some curly willow. An for the in. I in that is From the gardens as well I like to tour it or make it into a loop so i'm using that for my armature So i don't. When i will say when i first started i used for and i don't know maybe but just for me. I think with my inexperience when i first started to me. That made me feel secure. But i- rare. I only time. I use it now for like arches if i'm doing like Because i can't do an arch arrangement for a wedding..
Debra Winger Quit 'a League of Their Own'
"A hollywood actress is coming for. Madonna debra. Winger everyone gets you. We'll says she quit a league of their own because of the material girl. Deborah was set to play gena davis his role but she told the telegraph that she thought madonna getting cast. Return movie into an elvis presley film. So she bought out. Don't worry she got her. When deborah was asked about madonna's performance in the movie. She pulled her petty lever and said i think her acting career has spoken for itself.
"debra" Discussed on Slow Flowers with Debra Prinzing
"Back well. That was awesome. If you haven't fallen in love with kiara favorite color palette yellow in all shades. I'll be surprised. We also recently welcomed kiara hancock as a new member of the slow flower society. She's wonderful and we admire all that she's doing to nurture inclusion and representation through her decency is not difficult campaign to support our common cost dot com and you can find details about that in today's show notes our next sponsor thank you to the association of specialty cut flower growers formed in nineteen eighty eight eighty s. Cf g was created to educate unite and support commercial. Cut flower growers. Its mission is to help. Growers produce high-quality fluoro- material and to foster and promote the local availability of that product. You can learn more at a s. cfp dot org. I know it's already august. And that our celebration of the twenty twenty one. American flowers squeak campaign has passed for this year. The dates were june. Twenty eighth through july fourth. But you'll want to check out our new article. That appears in the august issue of growing for market magazine. Thanks to editor and publisher andrew medford who asked me to recap some of the amazing activities that are members produced during american flowers week..
"debra" Discussed on Slow Flowers with Debra Prinzing
"Boulder flowers the heavier flowers. I guess are maybe. That's not the right word. Focal flowers yeah closer to the base. And you're it's opening up as you stretch out his gesturing years creating more air and more interest for people to look with it. I love it. That's great yeah. Gosh this because national someone else picks flowers for you because you sound time gravitate towards the same thing and so doing this. Just been a really fun exercise. I was a little nervous. I was like. Oh my god. What if she hates all of this. I love yaro. And i love you flowers but this was like this. This rebecca badly like discovery. Builder navy Somebody just and also the stems were not straight. They were all kind of crooked and kind of more natural and so that's why they look like they have personalities that every flowers personality the dollars from your house like dahlia's our flower that scare me. I'm sure somebody has told that to you before. Golly scare me just because they love. They don't seem to really like value life after being cut. Funny so yeah. I like the day before. Because i'm terrified of them. Yeah i think those are ones you would have. You would really benefit from growing yourself ask you. Would you would know how fresh it was exactly they. I mean they love to shattered at any moment. Now that's a good way of putting it. I don't think that they ship well. And i i know people do ship them but they always look a little bit now. A bruise they follow. Yeah i like. I'm getting golly i'd like to pick them up in a in a buck games like literally the day before a not a moment sooner i would do it well. I i don't want to interrupt you if you keep going but i have a few more questions about what do you what do you. What do you have coming up. Do you have any more like your summer. Is not over with weddings. Go over. I took to do this a lot because i have small kids who are out of school during the summer. I like a month long break in the middle of the summer. Just i could be at home and be more present and you know. Go to the fun things that go to the zoo at a moment's notice and all those things but I- reading back up here in a couple of weeks in starting my wedding's back up i have a big wedding fairmont olympic. You're in seattle. And then. I'm gonna go venues three day multicultural wedding over labor day weekend. That's going to be huge in bay just brought on some. This is really late in the game for me by wants more clients for the end of this year but i think that people are just like pushing up and and wanting to avoid any possible problems that they might have next year. So you're saying that people who in the past you generally had like a twelve months notice or lead time now. It's it's tightened. It's a condense words toward like people calling you now for end of the year. Yeah people halloween. After the end of the year and i think they're just adjusting and making plans where they thought maybe they need help with hours before. Maybe they tried to like never mind. Yeah russell room in my schedule. But i always last year really for making it gets crazy towards the end of the year. Yeah well so kiara added or you announce that after. I think when when full bram lomas going on that you are starting a newsletter and it was sort of cute the way you did it like okay. I'm finally doing it. People have been asking me so so anyone who's watching this thick and just go to your website and sign up for your newsletter. Go to my website instagram. All my everything that. I do are always in that on instagram. They're super easy. And i'm just like figuring out how wanna you'll be like the first to know a lot of what i do. You find the right. Get i address classes or new announcements that. I making it as they come in. It's just like the place to be illinois no and also during like you know small tips and tricks along the way for your wedding planning process so it's just free information who doesn't live that i'm not gonna bug you know. I have a million emails in my inbox too. So i'm not going to send you an email every day like some people do. I do not love that myself. I know you the a problem. You need to know something out standard for they're not gonna bombarded right and if people follow you on instagram. They're gonna see stuff on your feet. All share a lot on instagram. I think that's like my main source of marketing. Right now and my main source of getting to know people and have people get to know who i have what i stand for and i really delving more until i might business having purpose this year. So it's gonna be really exciting. It has cold things coming down the pipeline that will show people. You know the purpose of my business in my where i want. Yeah i love that. That's so great. Thank you so much for sharing with today. So i i know we did it in person but this worked out really. We'll do it in person sometime later this year. Workout round my attention. Before i was able to navigate that and still beer. So everything's hot. I love it. And i'm so glad that you're going to be parcel flowers now and you are absolutely right. It's not it's not all or nothing kind of a ruler entities Right but if you have a client who would benefit from having beautiful seasonal flowers. You're going to tell the client. Okay i can get these from you. 'cause i ever source absolutely there's definitely benefits to have seasonal flowers including my knowing about the freshness right. That's a huge. Yeah and there's a lot of people jumping out to and just wanna make sure that we don't exclude people. We don't get he. I mean we can suggest like with lots of things like we can gently guy kit so i gently guide every day but we really guide people to like where they want to be e. It's just better for everybody instead of like you know like decide. Tillage die on right exactly. No i appreciate that anything else. You want to add before we wrap up. And i'm going to try to get some as we discussed. Try to get some clips from the show to share when this goes live on. It'll go live on wednesday. August fourth wanna share with people that i'm in this business because it brings me a lot of joy. I sent her my life in my business around joy. That's not happiness but like seeking those fun moments in life like that has been a theme throughout my entire life that now continues through my business so always looking to partner with new people. If you have an idea and really approachable. I think yes i will. I will say you are dusty. Md when you risk we chat with your ideas. I'm willing to help. I ended when. I hear. That's just who i am and That's who i wanna be. I wanna be able to like Spread what. I do teach people and have people will be introduced to flowers in a new way even if they've.
"debra" Discussed on Slow Flowers with Debra Prinzing
"So. Have you been able to have people on the farm this year or is it sort of coming out of kobe. Just put that on hold until the state opened the patiently to schedule anything and to be honest again like that just like. Let's show where we are this year. Husband overwhelming firming agent this project off the ground and the the groundwork the behind. So it's really been about learning my limitation and believes space right family taking a pause on all those Events you probably still have one or two things this year but very minimal. That's okay. I've really learning to like obscene. Or stopping doesn't mean distracting. It's okay take weights sometimes season on the peace pieces but it's it's created space to really build this antenna will you do a dahlia sale this fall or dahlia tubers sale or In spring hope. Oh that makes sense i. it's it's just logistically. i can gives opportunity in the diets. Doug so typically we go a little bit later. Springboards usually like march into april when we kick ours off. So yeah and we're working on looking at what that looks like this next year since so much of our proceeds from the sale coach of the projects posting not the way that feels really good for cusco. Ninety percents sold out twenty events this year which say that again. I can't even believe that ninety percents sold out while it wasn't even really. I mean it was pain..
"debra" Discussed on Slow Flowers with Debra Prinzing
"Kind of place where it was really joyful is bringing people together around flowers and leaning into that so it always kind of wondered now having been a teacher. What am i supposed to do with this This you're right. You'll naturally professions at but not necessarily the thing. I want to keep doing career. So was the first winter that you're here on the farm. You and i were just talking about sharing that moving to this farm fifth year last week was our anniversary of moving here. We forget how far come because we can only see the projects that we still have to do butts we. We moved in nineteen eighty six double wide. I'm just sharing with you. There was also big in the driveway that literally would like almost get lost in. It came here. I was very independent rental for ten years. And everything that you hear had been sinkholes frac we had a cedar stumps that had been pulled and removed and then the ground settled round blattner infested with blackberries morning. Glory It just there was a lot to do and yet there was also this tremendous freedom because we'd moved from this a picture. Perfect crops that. We've been me renovated. You know an yard with truly literally white picket fence and cottage garden so to let go of that Here it almost felt like this like earless launch into just showing up as we were and and inviting people into that alongside of us instead of the very first winter. We were here. We hosted a.
"debra" Discussed on Slow Flowers with Debra Prinzing
"Plant. World has not fallen to the challenges of the cut flower world because of There are some interstate Sales regulations on like for example. You have to have a permit to bring plants or cut flowers into the state of california because there because it's an agriculture policy. They're worried about soil borne pests and diseases. So it's kind of kept plants local more than flowers the just just by nature of whatever those those policies are also the weight of shipping. A pot with a rupaul. In soil is precautions prohibitive. So it's so. The plant world hasn't become as does reliant on like the amazon effect than that. The flower world has. It's definitely there. You can order plants online and have them shipped to you but it's just there's more restrictions and more more Limitations and some of them are just pure financial so in that regard. I i really think that the the nursery industry has benefited from being more local. And also we wanna buy plants that are a suitable to our zone right. So we're probably getting them from a local nursery. If it's an indoor plant that's a little bit different. And i love move move machines idea i i would love to have a gift a plant as a gift but i also love to have flowers as a gift. Yeah balance that out as well. usually has not the most sustainable type of flour. But i love orchids as they're very classic and they beautiful but they're probably not seasonal or local. their. Orchids are tricky but They're they're probably started in a they probably started in a lab in asia and like became a a little ton of like tissue culture that got massively shipped to somebody who it on in the uk or in the us so okay. It's kinda like bulbs everybody that. I grow started in holland. Probably but i'm growing that tulip in my garden and seeds the seeds. The seed industry is is international. Too so you know. That's the next hill. We're going to climb together on that point. What what our future innovations that That you're seeing in the industry or the or that you'd like to see in the flower farming and slow flowers in just forestry in general well every year we do a while. I think for the last seven years. We do an annual forecast. I don't use the word trend but it's like a a forecast for changes that are on the horizon or we're that we're documenting comes out every wednesday of every year so usually the first week of january and two years ago i did forecast the increased demand more than ever for organic flower seats. So in the seed industry. There's huge selection availability of organic food Herb and You know any kind of crop that can grow in a food farm. That is not the case in flowers. And so now now growers are asking for. That and the industry's trying to catch up. The steep providers are trying to breed and produce organic flower seats. So that's exciting. I think i mentioned a little bit about the flower farmer. Empowerment like farmers are really leading instead of just being responsive and One of the innovations. I'm seeing is how it all across north america. There are collectives cooperatives Co marketing groups. I mean whatever way you wanted to find it a farmers coming together in creating their own marketplace their own wholesale hub so that is happening in a really exciting way the one that i'm involved in his just celebrated its tenth year. It's legal cooperative. Called the seattle wholesale growers market and it is owned by about fifteen or sixteen farms in oregon washington and they own their own distribution. So that has happened. Now there's people Modeling their own version of that. All across the country in mainly million. You know demographic hubs like you know there's one new jersey connecticut and they're basically serving the new york market They're you know just by virtue of it's cheaper to have know have something outside of the city there's one in north carolina. There's one in the twin cities. There's one in toronto so this is happening in an exciting way that farmers are driving to see. Say though is it's like It's it's more like you're selling wholesale to the trade only two floor so it's like the middleman is gone now. The farmer is his own middleman because the farmers are collectively coming together to sell their flowers to the florus fantastic now. Not to bash the middleman because wholesalers do play a central role. But really there could be selling anything. They buy bulk and sell to someone who can't buy bulk. They raise their like redistributors. There is a softening of resistance to To local flowers in those channels. There are some people who are doing it really well and who have local departments within their warehouse where you know all all local or american grown flowers are there's others who all the evidence is staring them in the face and they won't change so by by the other innovation i would mention is that floors are disrupting this traditional wholesale distribution channel by doing what i do going direct flower farmers and You know developing relationships because as they developed relationship with lower farms than they can tell their clients. Hey i knew the person who do this. And you know what. This is a fabulous flower. It's seasonal. it has a story. You're gonna want it for your event or your wedding or your vase on the center. You know senator table like it's creating. This is why we have so many new members in still flowers..
Revlon CEO Debra Perelman Shares Her Passion for the Beauty Biz
"With me. Today is the ceo of revlon debbie perlman. Welcome debbie with so wonderful to have you here. Thank you pre. It's great to be here. Thank you so much for inviting me to join the podcast today. Debbie you know. I think it's must've been such an amazing but also challenging year for you. I mean you're the ceo this major beauty company and it's in such a tumultuous year but our year of innovation. Tell us a little bit about what it's been like for you both personally and professionally as such a great question in frankly so pertinent to the time today. So thank you for asking that note. I i think it's really helpful for me to take a step back and really just give some of my own background and what it means for me to be within the beauty industry. Because i think a lot of people don't know that and it's really important to me and it really is one of my true passions. I mean beauty and the beauty business has always been a very big part of my life Since i was a little kid. I've been always interested in beauty. I remember my first lipsticks which happened to be revlon. Super lustrous lipstick silver city pink and toast of new york for anyone who remember those shades. Those are the the best shades on me to pulling clips you know. Pr clips from when i was in high school and that was really looking at at the time it was. You know sitting with magazines and a pair of scissors and really looking at linking beauty and culture and celebrities and tracking the impact. That beauty brands had on culture and leading into my first job outside of college. Which was at revlon where i was able to join a rotational program with the goal of really understanding how to take a beauty product concept to market execution and ultimately success. And i was able to do that for a number of years and then came back after business school into marketing on the almazo brand as an assistant product manager which is still hold a special place for me out. Al may brand which led me into a career marketing and ultimately to returning to the company. Two thousand seven to lead a digital transformation and moving into the ceo role in two thousand eighteen and not only is the beauty business in revlon so important to me but the emotional connection that beauty has with me with probably you with each and every consumer and i spoke about the lipsticks. I remember their names. They're they're certainly so many more that i could highlight. I remember the fragrance at my grandmother wore very specifically she wore nor and it was in this beautiful gold container was actually a hard a hard oil fragrance as well as i remember. You know even you know by team members have talked to me about stories and the products that they have used in their past from the dance competitions when they were kids to skin care routines that they've been passed down from generation to generation and a big focus of mine has always been. How do you utilize these iconic brands and products bring to market in order to really leverage this emotional connection that we can have with the consumer because ultimately what we do at revlon is. We're able to create beauty innovations to really inspire confidence and ignite joy and the
"debra" Discussed on Slow Flowers with Debra Prinzing
"Just i find a lot of the practices. Really are the same in that. I really focused on soil management. Water-management Which again most home gardeners are out there. Like managing their soil moisture every day. I'm really managing it. So that i can get the most production out of my roses. Which if you're in a greenhouse and hydroponic it's a little bit different than like an outdoor management system my field scouting for like insects and pests. And all of that all my years of experience. doing that You know that translates into the roses. As well and i would say. Just operational efficiency to amber pruning i mean. We burn a lot of trees out here every year so being able to prune roses pretty efficiently that people get very scared intimidated roses when i tell them they can just go through with a saw and they just think i'm absolutely nuts but an-and advanced rosary and would probably say don't ever do that but then i say what have you tried most people. Don't you know they. They haven't experimented. And that is one of the nice things about having a large field. And i do have a lot of acreage here that i can do. Test walks and go because people tell me. We can't do that on. Go wanna try it. Yeah and so. You know the following year i'll take a block and all all prune it differently or all. Try something mechanical. Because you have you have the plants out of the plants to do and there's no there isn't a lot of research in you know outdoor field grown garden roses for production and not necessarily for For the garden someone. That's growing it in their guard right for but but at the scale you're doing exactly the scale so when you when you kind of reestablished your farm here is that when you named it menagerie or had your grandparents that's when i decided to meet name it menagerie because i picked the word menagerie because it's kind of a collection of all the things that have come before and all the things that are coming in the future and it really wasn't just a collection of the plants and the you know whether it's the trees or the roses or the existing ecosystem that's here but also the people i wanted to honor the people that came before and then also the people that are here now that my husband and my kid and all of the employees that work for me that make this this magical menagerie and so that's how i ended up picking the word menagerie because i wanted something that kind of represented the diversity of what the farmer lee is. 'cause i am kind of it is a little crazy. I've got fruit and flowers and a nursery and use the sum of all those yards. I some of all those parts and sometimes people you know. It's a hard time for them to people can't wrap their head around. Oh wait but you have this this and you know mrs noah exactly. I don't have a ton of animals but that's probably good animals. No you know as a kid out here we did. We had a lot of chickens and goats and and whatnot. And i spent too many mornings waking up to animals the coyotes or other wildlife head and i decided. I don't know that. I want my kids. Wake up every morning. I was actually just out where we were driving this morning in the mule. Deborah walking around the back of the rothfield meal. Three coyotes just running around in the more and i love them because they keep the deer population down so dear. She let them do that. Yeah so so i. I'm all happy to have all the all all the wildlife out here so yeah. I don't have a lot of farm animals. We have a couple of cats. Well i like your tagline growing wonder just it it just has a real visceral positive feel good Response when i hear it and i wonder how that came about you know honestly it was just one day my husband and i were sitting in my office and we were again. It was kinda like the menagerie we were trying to describe like. What do we grow here because we grow so many somewhat different things and so what are you growing. I said i'm growing wonderful things and and it really was just off the cuff of like because he was trying to get me to brainstorm like we were just brainstorming ideas and that's the one that stick and then we shortened it from growing wonder- wonderful things to just growing wonder but we were trying to describe what here and i said. I'm just trying to grow wonderful things. So whether it's you know a peach or a you know a flowering branch or prune or a. You know a beautiful row. And and that. I wanted to at this. Point is when when we kind of just started doing the beirut And i wanted other people to do to size the thing i wanted. I wanted that energy to go to anyone. That was buying a plant for me to go. Yeah you can grow wonderful things too. I love so yeah. We kinda short short but Yeah it really was like. He was kind of irritating me like i was like i'm growing wonderful things that's what our spouses are. Are there for us you know. Didn't he got it ought to be. He helped me help me solve the problem cash. Well for those of you are listening. You're the among the first to hear that is offering a new book called growing wonder which i my partner robin omni and i for a bloom. Imprint are so excited to be publishing and working with leash on and we are going to have all the details for preorder of very soon for for sure by july. So if you're really wanna get of the first copies sign up because it will be out this fall and Felicia thank you for saying. Yes when i asked you. If you'd be willing to do a book. I think it's dovetailing with the last thing. I want to talk with you about which is your education. Because that's really the future and the book is sort of a natural fit for all the other education you're doing so can you kind of give people a snapshot of how they can learn from you. Yes so yes and first of all. Thank you deborah for asking me to do a book. I have to admit in the kind of middle of the pandemic last year. When i got this call from deborah i was i was thinking. Gosh how am. I going to fit in a book. Because you know everybody's lives. I had kids at home was thinking. How am i gonna do this. And i'm so glad. I said yes because it's been so wonderful but one of the great things about the pandemic was because cut flower sales slowed down. And you know. I kind of had to reevaluate. What was i doing here with the business. That and everybody was at home. I kept getting more and more emails from people going. What's wrong with my rose. How did i do this. Because more people were home tending to their farms and so i realized that there was a real void for practical rose education that i that i could give give to people so i started an online learning academy which is just a subscription based membership program and it was just sort of a an extension of what i did here on the farm previously with workshops which were all cancelled as well..
"debra" Discussed on Slow Flowers with Debra Prinzing
"Well for you that we really want. I want everyone to sixty everyone on my team year. Does every we trim up every single. Beirut that goes out and we water every single potted plant make sure it's got the right amount of fertilizer and everything before it leaves here to. We really want you to be successful when you take it home. And i think that like some of the larger Kind of big box stores. I think that's what's sort of gone missing from that process of buying a plant now is that. There's not a lot of that. Extra help in knowledge horticultural knowledge. That i so i think when people finally find someone like i get excited when i go somewhere. I talked to chef. And they they know all about the food and where they've sourced it and i think it's Kind of the same thing. You're like the rose concierge. Yeah i will tell you what you need to know what i usually always ask. People like. Okay like how much time do you have to spend with your roses. Because some while i love all my roses some i will say just like my child. One's a picky eater under. So you know. I if somebody tells me hey i have no time at all but i want something pretty. I might recommend a different variety. So i really do try to cater my recommendation. Also to their lifestyle and to how much time they have. Because i don't want to send them home with something that they're they're going to go. Oh gosh that one. I needed to dead. That had that one too much or it was too small or too tall. Or i really try to kind of play matchmaker and love to find the right one Roughly how many varieties do you have in your cadillac at any given time now. I think it lasts chuck. We had like a hundred to one hundred fifty and they may not all be available like summer available. His beirut some available as potted plants some are available as cut flowers but not as beirut or potted so it really kind of just depends on what part of the business it is but yeah we usually roughly have around that many that are available for for sale in some way. Well we just jumped into your little Will you call it. A gator or something right. Oh it's a mule it's called it's by the brand kawasaki and they call it a mule so usually on a golf cart usually we just i mean or i think gators. I'm john deere's skaters there. It's their mule okay. So we drove around. Drove around you. I first of all the roses are so beautiful and he took a couple of videos of our driving ransall. I will show those on social media. But i didn't realize you were one hundred percent organic in your practices. That is crazy. Yeah and it doesn't mean you're. Usda certain certified me about how. How is that possible. What does that require of you. It's a lot of hand labor. I'm not gonna lie as much as we try to refine the process in do as many things as we can It's a lot of especially with the weeds. You saw the whigs other we. Today i are very very war. We've had a some heat waves here in california last week and then again works actually expecting another one this week and we had some early ones in april which were unusual. The weed pressure has just been really bad this year. And we take care of that really with hand. Hoeing hand pulling We we do some flame flame leading on the edges of beds but once we get in between where the roses aren't really hard to use the flame wieder because it's it's just too close But yeah it can be an end we do. We do spray for insects. I mean the they are ganic certified sprays but we do. Let's go spray. So we're we're not a no spray. But we are you know organic using what what's approved. Yeah with approved and yeah it just. It just can be challenging. It's usually just more labor more. You know more. it's just it's just more. I mean it makes the with the labor costs it it. it makes. That stem cost a little bit higher. But that's what you're paying for so does interesting so it's you know but we do we do what we we do because we love it. We think it's important to and i just you know put up with the weeds. I if that's a good point you kind of figure what what are your non-negotiables what are you willing to compromise on in terms of leading with more bug by or more ways. Yeah so it's again. I don't i don't always i don't always love the we usually we get we get back under control and hopefully the weather will be friendly and we've also just in you know a whenever they are saying like one hundred and some odd year drought here in california that we didn't really have any water. We might have a weather station here on the farm and Our rain gauge we. We've had four inches of rain this year. And normally you would have about fifteen twenty. Yeah i mean that's since january. Why so like not the season but since january one. Wow so I like to ask people their paths to flowers. And i'd love to have you sort of give us the the version the shorter version. Because you've been involved in horticulture as a plants woman for decades. Yes so My path was not to flowers. Was not so linear. But i as i mentioned in the beginning. I did grow up on a farm. This this farm Specifically prune farm..
"debra" Discussed on Slow Flowers with Debra Prinzing
"And they weren't leaving their house and flowers weren't moving everywhere and since we were agricultural Considered an essential service. Because i also grow food so right my employees and we were all still operating here. Taking care of the farm We started shipping retail. Okay so i also have a retail customer basis. Well they shall cut flowers too. So i would say those are kind of. That's kind of my one. Customer base is kind of wholesale and retail. then i also My my customer. That buys nursery products me. Bear roses or potted nursery plants About persons just somebody that really loves. Roses wants to grow them in their yard. Maybe there A florist that wants to put a handful of plants in so they can talk them into bouquets for their brighton Maybe their home gardener. And they're just interested in getting more garden roses or being able to have a cutting garden so they can go out and sniff some roses and bring them into their house or give as gifts so I kind of really have almost like two customer bases people that are you know wanting to that. Our professionals in the in the cut flower business. And then those that are Just home gardner's. Joe slugging just rose lovers and they love roses and the they wanna buy cut ones or they wanna buy plants and learn more about how to grow them and grow them successfully so are cut. Roses like half of that Pie and the other half are the beirut and the potted plants so you're kinda hafner. Salem by half and probably by next year it might be about seventy thirty. I actually the nurseries actually expanding in this last year. I think becau- because of cova da and whatnot Everybody was at home gardening. I mean the explosion in the gardening world has just been amazing. I mean i don't know anyone that works in the nursery business. It's not just going. We don't have enough plants. There's gosh everybody's home gardening. And i don't really see that You know changing. I think that that trend is going to continue. It was already on an uptick and my business was already expanding even before all this happened. You know the the the urine to grow. You're in tokyo. Yeah so i guess right now. It's about fifty. Wow that's great. So i also think maybe because you're specializing in your kind of deep in one genus. You're like committed to rose's garden roses. I would is that what you call them. Anti garden roses or call them garden. Rose okay because a lot of the ones i grow aren't necessarily antique like. They're not the older older varieties. A lot of them are the new modern varieties that let me look antique in terms of their. You know the floor. Ed and the size. The shape may look antique with. They're actually more modern breeding. That has all that lovely disease resistance and whatnot that makes them a little easier to grow for the modern modern garden. That's so cool. But you still probably have more selection than a lot of just independent garden centers. Yes and i will say that. That's what usually why people end up finding the as i really do curate. My selection that it is it is the roses. I do grow here as cut. Flowers for professional You know floral designers and so. I chose varieties based on vigor and color. And some of those you know your local garden center isn't gonna know that you know that interesting kind of you know peachy tope Isn't going to be as popular garden. Centers tend to bring in really really bright colors you know. People want the traditional long stem red rose or bright yellow or white And you may not get some of those interesting unique varieties. And that's kind of where i come in that i really you know. I don't sell anything that i don't grow or i haven't actually tried and tested here on the farm for a number of years I want i want my customers to be successful growing them to and i want to bring them. You know the colors and varieties that they may not be able to get really anywhere everywhere. Those trends do do change as well. It's so funny when you talked about the bright colors all of a sudden i realized it's the independent garden centre. Kinda shopper is similar to the farmers market shopper. They're going for the primary call. Yes yeah and then the designers and the the rose sufficient autos are more something different Yeah they're looking for something. That's more of an hombre or multi tone colors or at a unique bloom or whereas garden centers. And i love home garden centers. Because i you know. I'm kind of i'm a nursing myself too. So i always say it goes to your home your local nursery but a lot of time home garden centers in nurseries. We'll deal with sales reps from plant companies or larger wholesale nurseries than they just by like you know say okay. Well we want to order two hundred roses and they don't even pick the variety. Just just bring it. Just bring us and that's what you'll see in your especially big box store and also you're getting kind of the brand of flowers and While all those companies are important and they support garden magazines as advertisers. So i can't complain. It's it's it's sort of like we want to sell what's what's guaranteed to sell and not not take a risk on some variety color. I'm which i think is what's great about my customers in. That's why i love them so much that they they know what they want. They're like. I love that color. I love that shade. Or they're looking for those interesting and unique things and so they're excited to Usually when they find you. Define this locally. I'm so glad you ship. I'm so you have this Thank god for the internet right. Yeah when i really just work on. I tried to knock on wood. We try to do our best to have the best quality. I mean they are plants. And sometimes i mean i'll be honest. Sometimes they do fail or somebody from beirut and they send us a picture and say it didn't it didn't survive in happens but we really do try to have really top quality. And i think that's also what sort of You know in the last couple of years. What i keep hearing consistently from customers and i'm glad because that's what we really strive for with our customer services making sure that the plants are are healthy. And we'll do.
"debra" Discussed on Slow Flowers with Debra Prinzing
"Very special episode for you today. Coming to you from menagerie farm and flour and my guest is felicia alvarez. Hi felicia hi deborah. I'm so happy to be here today. So nice to welcome you to the farm. The farm is fabulous. And we're just marveling at how rare it is that i've been getting to do in person interviews but not only. Did i talk to you in person. I get to see your amazing rose farm. And i've wanted to come visit for a long time. Well i it is really special to have you here and i'm glad that you were able to on your trip. You know you don't always get get this far down south so It it's nice to have people back in person again to absolutely well We have lots of talk about Felicia as i said owns menagerie farm. Flower we're going to talk about what her hogue business. Operation is and then a little bit about her path and how she fell into flowers out specifically roses and a little bit about. What's coming next so Some of you may remember a couple years ago. I did a fifty states of slow flowers. Series fifty one person from each state for fifty weeks ahead and get that at. I did highlight felicia during california. She had to represent the whole state. That was a mouthful. And yes i was here for the whole state but it was only about ten minutes so it was just a quick little soundbite and so it wasn't. She deserved more. So we're gonna talk about this so fully. Shut a menagerie pharma flower. You're based in sacramento valley. Put us put yourself on the map and kind of introduce people to what what is your whole enterprise. So yes i'm based in sacramento valley. I am about an hour north of sacramento and an hour south of chico. I'm right at the base of the center beauts Which is the smallest mountain range in the world for you trivia folks out there the good little jeopardy piece at my college roommate's still to this day always says that you know she's always going to take that one away cases on jeopardy. It's funny yes. So i operate about one hundred acre farm i have twenty acres of that are not contiguous. That are actually from where we are right here on this particular property. It's about twenty minutes away which is pointed into a rice as specifically sushi rice so people that Eat sushi rice. You might be having some of mine here in my gosh i and then i also have eighty acres years. The property we are. We're on and i have seventy two planted french prunes That i grow for sweet growers. Which is the largest prune growing co-op in the country My family's grown prunes has prince for a long time we used to have a commercial to hydrate or which is actually as diverse deteriorate over to our left the remnants of the old dryer. We no longer commercially drive. And then i have A small nursery here on the property now or specialized in garden roses Do sell potted plants April through really november kind of in season. And then i sell beirut plants the rest of the year that we operate here out of the nursery. And then i also have cut flowers And i have about. I think but never was asked me about how many plants and i kind of lost track but Around the five thousand mark of plants that are garden roses that are planted in for cut flowers. And then i have A barn here That we do workshops in events An educational opportunities for people that want to learn how to grow garden roses and also just other plants I also do grow some some tulips in the spring time but they kind of just Get customers excited for the roses. And plus i just like to have something blooming year in the spring So i have just kind of a nice garden area. Now that The grounds here on the property and that people can kind of explorer at different times of the year and really see this seasonal changes with the roses and with other plants. You're in the valley. Yeah wow so much going on. the The tulips i feel like that's a bonus because you also do mail order. You already do mail order for euros products so you're set up to ship. So how are the. Are you shipping up so we. We do ship tulips in the spring and again depending on the year. I tried to tie them as much as i try to time. I'm i do outdoor grow. So as much as i do. Try to time. The forcing and whatnot We usually have tulips around early march. And then we can shift Through me with different varieties you know early and late late blooming varieties but yeah. I do ship those across the country and they do ship amazingly well. Tulips are great Right flower They hold up really well. I love what you said about having something to offer your customers. Because as you've built the business you have a mailing lists and so people are waiting for news of what's coming next so so for cut. Flowers are season for garden. Roses really ends. I say you know halloween and most years. We can squeak through till thanksgiving kind of like the final date for us really depending on the rain and if we have a really wet know kind of late fall or not really. There's that november through april when the garden roses. Start again that You know. I i don't have roses and i don't grow. We are so warm here in the summer in the sacramento valley. That i don't have greenhouses. Because i would really only use them about a month and a half of the year. My gosh and then it gets warm enough to do out- outdoor growing so. I really just focus on the tulips. And then i always have a cutting garden here too. I think like most most farmers. I i like to grow other things and so we have a little Family cutting garden. We're all grow you know some donkey lists than some of those other beautiful spring flowers as well But i don't usually sell those just more for yourself for fun but yeah. The tulips are what we folks focused on in the spring. So okay. so you're you're tulips are kind of. I don't know. I didn't mean to spend so much time on those. They're beautiful. I remember you brought some to the workshop that we had general story. I forgot about that they were. They were stunning. But who is your customer. Felicia that kind of help. Maybe help people understand the scope of your business so my customer actually really is almost kind of like i would think kind of like two different people's no i have a lot of customers like for cut flowers. That are wholesale that our wedding and event designers. And that's really where i started like. That was kind of my bread and butter is. I had all the beautiful garden. Roses and all of the colors and varieties. that people wanted for their weddings and I started in wholesale and then and you were shipping like ice packed. yes and then also local pick up and then. I also have a local wholesaler. Here that you know works with me as well so And a delivery route into the sacramento area so it wasn't wasn't just all shipping So i kinda started doing that. And then when the penny started last year as kind of like anyone in the businesses march came in we had all these orders for tulips and then the roses were right around the corner on their heels getting ready for their first flush and you know the world sort of shut down. All the wedding and events were kansas side. All these beautiful flowers. While i'm set up to ship and everybody was in their homes not leaving and wanting to celebrate birthdays and anniversaries and all kinds of things and they weren't leaving their house and flowers weren't moving everywhere and since we were agricultural Considered an essential service. Because i also grow food so right my employees and we were all still operating.
Cleveland Wants 'Climate Justice.' Can the Biden Administration Help?
"The fight against climate change might be going in a new direction with the biden administration. Top officials say that it is also a campaign for economic and racial equity. Npr's dan charles has been looking into what this means in practice. Hi dan thanks for being here. It's good to be here okay. So there's this idea now of attacking two things at once. Climate change and also social inequity. How do you do that. Well that is what. I wanted to know. And i got some interesting answers. No l. in cleveland. Why cleveland well. Couple of reasons i. It is one of the poorest cities in america it is also one of the city's that's created what it calls a climate action plan and a few years ago officials in cleveland decided to rewrite that plan with equity in mind which sounds like what the biden administration is promising. Cleveland was kind of writing the blueprint for this and they started with conversations in low income neighborhoods and black neighborhoods. Which is kind of new. Kimberly foreman who's executive director of a group in cleveland called environmental health. Watch says the debate about environmental policy. Climate policy has often been disconnected from those communities the little elitist or heavily focused on technology. Which is not getting down to. The grassroots are getting down to the people who are most impacted. The city set up a bunch of community meetings asking people. What are you concerned about in your neighborhood. And i would imagine that some of the things that people are concerned about had absolutely nothing to do with climate change. Yes at first glance at least so for instance. They went to a neighborhood called. And one of the people who showed up was cindy mumford. And when i went to the meeting they really gave. It wasn't one of those. Just sit down things when you're just listening to someone present. What was ms mumford concerned about in her neighborhood. Explain that she took me on a little walking tour in the rain. She and her neighbor across the street. Debra lewis who grew up in it is a community that was devastated by what i will can only call tenement housing.
"debra" Discussed on Cultivating Place
"And leader of the slow flowers society. She joins me in this first week of summer after memorial day in the us. But before the summer solstice in just a few weeks to share more about the many facets of her passion for being a voice in the floral world as a seattle based writer speaker and advocate for american grown flowers. Deborah's many slow flowers. Branded projects have convened a national conversation. That stimulates consumers and professionals alike to make conscious choices about the flowers in their lives. Welcome deborah. I am so pleased to be speaking with you again. You have been here before. And i'm sure. Many listeners will have heard that interview. But for everyone who might be new to debra printing. You are in for a treat. Thank you so much jennifer. I've been looking forward to this. Let's start with this You know what if you were to tell people that the mission of your work bound up in all of those roles that i just described about you would that mission statement be deborah I think it's all about relationships. And community and sustainability and When i find a subject as a writer. Which is my background. When i find a subject that i am smitten by matt i get swept up by that. I fell down the rabbit hole discovering all of a sudden i it becomes sort of my lifestyle and gardening did that for me for twenty years and Now i guess for the last ten years it's been writing about and trying to learn as much as possible about the people who grow in design flowers in this lower society Universe which is basically noncommercial non factory like but more artisan like so. I've always written about creative people as journalist and them drawn to them. And so i want to live in that create a world. There's no boundary for me. -tween the people i want to spend time with the people. I have invited to be part of this society and the people that i'm writing about. It's just it's seamless. Yeah yeah and they are. They are all really interdependent. Which which i think is part of where that freeserve energy comes from. The joy comes from his that. It's not just about the flower. But it's about the person who grew the flower and the person who receives the flower. The the engagement with the earth from which the flour comes that you know. It's it's all of those working together in your work from the beginning. Certainly of the slow flowers work. And so i want you to describe just recap for people that aren't familiar with your story. That that arc because it's an it's an interesting arc and it's one that i think listeners will even if they've heard it before deborah they will like a refresher because it really is an inspiration for people looking for their own pads and their own joy and the mark the meaning they wanna make in this world. Yeah i mean. I think that we all can start with our early influences of being aware of Plants in nature. You know anybody who's listening is love. Steer show because plants are at the center of it. And the and nature's at the of it so i have those experiences myself but It's interesting. i mentioned earlier. I have always written about creative people. I was a features writer. Also business journalist For ten years. And i would kind of find the i had the chick beat at puget sound business journal so i would write about. My beat was the design oriented businesses. So i i was called at the chick because it was only female on the staff but you know it was hospitality retail media marketing architecture. Interior design graphic design all these sort of creative businesses. But i was reading about the business of them but i always turn them into some kind of design story just inevitably. I couldn't help myself. So when i left that in nineteen ninety seven when my youngest son was born and went to a career a full time freelance writing and said i'm putting business writing behind sec- ios dot com. I'm really wanted. Just write about home and guard. And i spent the next fifteen years pursuing that and higher i am full circle back in a world where actually that business reporting skill set is really important because so much of what is drawing people into flow agriculture and floral design and floral. Art is trying to make a living doing what you love. And there is a business component to that and my question is always like how do you make it work and i know you talk to your guest a lot about this too and sort of struck. This morning. i was interviewing a flower farmer on the east coast. Who's part of really exciting. New collective of and she said my husband always tells me something to this effect. You can't always have a job that you love. And i said to her why not. I mean question. Good question deborah. We're told that right. Yeah we are but increasingly the people that i come across and talk to every day are trying to challenge that question and say i want to have a life a life doing what i love that sustains me and i know that's like the whole premise of your book that you'd came out with last year the earth in her hands. I mean that was a question. You asked all your subjects right guy there so much there so many interesting cultural paradigm wrapped up in in that very question and the way it interfaces with you're describing your initial subject matter for the reporting as the chick beat rain right exactly. I do.
SLOW FLOWERS for SUMMER, With Debra Prinzing
"You know what if you were to tell people that the mission of your work bound up in all of those roles that i just described about you would that mission statement be deborah I think it's all about relationships. And community and sustainability and When i find a subject as a writer. Which is my background. When i find a subject that i am smitten by matt i get swept up by that. I fell down the rabbit hole discovering all of a sudden i it becomes sort of my lifestyle and gardening did that for me for twenty years and Now i guess for the last ten years it's been writing about and trying to learn as much as possible about the people who grow in design flowers in this lower society Universe which is basically noncommercial non factory like but more artisan like so. I've always written about creative people as journalist and them drawn to them. And so i want to live in that create a world. There's no boundary for me. -tween the people i want to spend time with the people. I have invited to be part of this society and the people that i'm writing about. It's just it's
Great News About a New Regional Wholesale Hub
"As you may know. I've been documenting. The emergence and rise of regional flower hubs for more than a decade. My deepest ties are with the seattle wholesale growers market. A farmer owned cooperative whose origin state twenty ten. When a group of growers came together at a regional. Asc of g meeting held at charles little and company. In eugene oregon. Fortunately i was there and witnessed those. I am vicious optimistic. Conversations that yielded what we here in seattle. Enjoy today at the time. There were only two other models to which the founders of the seattle growers market could look oregon flower growers association which has a long history in the portland market having been founded in the nineteen forties and fairfield flowers a small but mighty collective of wisconsin and illinois growers serving madison and milwaukee flores fairfield flower ceased operating as a collective on january first of two thousand nineteen but many of the floor farmers who participated still grow and sell flowers independently. We have witnessed encouraged and featured on the slow flowers podcast. Numerous other regional efforts to bring flowers from the field to the florist and consumer and innovative ways from legal cooperatives to privately held wholesaler operations from casual meetups to marketing collectives. You've heard from many of them or their members here on the slow flowers podcast and now we have a new example to highlight. Let's welcome to of the founders of old dominion flour cooperative a washington. Dc area local flower cooperative. My guests are melissa webster founder and megan wakefield director of operations to growers. Who are part of this group. That launched publicly at the end of january.
More States Lift Mask Mandate After CDC Eases Guidance
"More states are following the CDC is guidance on masks. But folks in California will have to wait a little bit longer to ditch. There's I don't know. They have a magic Crystal mall that says June 15 is the magic date where everybody could stop wearing masks. CBS is Debra Alfa, Rhone at least 25 states and now Washington, D C are adopting the new CDC guidelines and dropping mask mandates for the fully vaccinated. New York state changes its policy on Wednesday and Massachusetts on May 29th. Massachusetts is on track to reach its goal of vaccinating 4.1 million residents. By early June. In a sign of getting back to a pre pandemic life, the governor of New Jersey announced all Children will go back to in person learning in the
Pimp My Language
"What americans have done with the language you guys have just while you've just done something you've put twenty twos on the english language. He's got rid of this pimp my language. That's what you've gone with. You know. I don't understand chatting to this woman downtown. Though the day she came up to me and she wanted me to see something. I don't know what though she was like. Oh my god look over ther look over. What's she's like. Oh the other. Look at that. Her and i said her she's like no har har two of them. I understand nothing. Even the small words just pronunciation small things that. Get you by for instance. I pronounce the opposites of ankle. As aren't i say my arts out here. You say my aunt which to me is an insect which made me look like an ass when my friend told me his aunt died house. Like so what. There's tons of those out there way to end the friendship. I couldn't get helped the other day when searching for a battery for my remote control. Because that's what. I say battery small form of power in america. You say battery which to me is a different form of power sponsored by chris brown. And you know what's understand. We live on different sides of the globe. So it's fine. The language will evolve. This is something. I've come it. But i hope i change one thing in your hearts forever. Just one thing. And that's is that animal in the wild. It looks like a horse. It has black and white stripes. Do me a favor from now on. It's not zebra. Okay it's zebra just like it's not deborah. It's debra structure of word plus you cannot name them because you do not have them
Tamir Rice’s Mother Criticizes Tamika Mallory After Lil Baby’s Grammys Performance
"Month, there was a special guest during the performance of rapper Lil Babies Song. The Bigger Picture. It's the State of emergency. My people is time we stand it. We demand the freedom that this land promises President that is activist to Mika Mallory. This was a protest song calling for justice in light of police brutality and systemic racism. So Mallory, showing up might make sense. This is not a train. This is our place until Frieda. But some people were not happy about it, including Sameera Rice, the mother of Tamir race, the unarmed 12 year old boy who was shot and killed by a white police officer in Cleveland. In 2014 Sameera. Rice publicly rebuked Mallory, among others, saying the activist was trying to gain fame by quote benefiting off the blood of families who have lost loved ones. Mika Mallory is not the first to be accused of profiting off of black pain. In fact, there's a history of it. We have Debra Walker King on the line. She's written extensively about the idea of black pain, how it has been perceived and wielded. She's a professor at the University of Florida and she joins us now from her home in Gainesville. Professor King Welcome. Thank you very much. So let's start with the term black pain. How do you define it? What exactly do you mean? I look at it in two different ways. I look at black pain as an experience of bodily harm, and I look at it as a metaphor. It functions to define an access that which is not American. Explain that. What does this
Compelling Interventions That Motivate the Entire Family
"Today. Our topic is love. I a families guide to intervention and my guests are the authors debra j and jeff j. in case you're wondering yes they are couple deborah and jeff have been married since nineteen ninety-two together. They are shining example of how it works and how impactful their work has been in helping thousands of other people in nearly quarter century that i've known them. Jeff and debra welcome to our program today. Thanks for having us william. It's so nice to be here with you. William thank you for inviting us. Well thank you for being here from your home. Actually grosse pointe farms michigan. I'm very envious of your location there. Jeff i want to start with you by reading. One of your famous quotes quote. I believe in intervention for a very simple reason. It saved my life. Can you explain. that's exactly right. My alcoholism and drug addiction had taken me down to the point that i was sleeping under bushes in the city parks Out in california homeless and penniless and it was a rather untraditional but effective family intervention. That got me out of where i was and and got me into a hospital and into treatment and without that intervention. I'm certain that i would not have survived. That was back in one thousand nine hundred eighty one. So it's been quite a while now there. You are already in recovery in your own right. Can you explain i. Can you know. I am an adult child of an alcoholic but in my twenties trust me. I didn't think that affected me. In the least in fact. I thought i was controlling the whole world and i went through a really excellent family program for somebody else that was helping of course and halfway through all of my illusions came crashing down and i had this understanding that no matter how hard i tried. My life wasn't really working and And i was told about alanon. And i ask for help. I reached out and i was directed to alanon. That was over thirty years ago now. Which i cannot not believe but truly changed my life in fact i would say it saved my life. I don't know where. I would have been if it hadn't been for that program. That's i'm still active in to this day.
Women Empowerment With Debra Martin Chase
"Right and what And i'm also curious to seeking to be a player. Martin chase production was affiliated with disney. Twenty sixteen. i believe that's right. What you own kind of walk us through. What is that like just thinking about like when you're looking at the critics when you're moving like i am and you're seeing the that you have this black girl majett Talented woman behind the scenes and she has not production following these major project. What is that like for you to have that opportunity for yourself to create your own production company so yes with the cheetah girls. I originally Sold to girls to the disney channel television series and with the same writer. Allison taylor ultimate writer and win We finished the script. International the international divisions of the disney channel had to sign off on on new television series. And win it was sent to ram. They were like well. We can't sell this because these girls aren't real. Nobody's gonna believe that. These black and latino girls in new york city are living on park avenue and live this fancy and i was so pissed off the Point show to show that people live different. Lives and you know that. These girls have big dreams and aspirations and gary mars to credit who was head of the disney channel. Bend in now at warwick president said look i. I don't control the series totally. But i do control movies in a. We'd we configure this as a movie. I can i. Can you know make that happen. And so we did and he and he did and then in success we were able to do ops into more movies in the franchise.
Covid vaccine comes just in time for wedding and prom season
"Are blue out there. We've got a nice spring breeze. The flowers are blooming the Paul in his back yet for sure. That's how you know it's wedding in prom season. Well, there's just one problem. We're in a pandemic that Kristina's and handover manager Debra Baldwin says. This is the second season. The stories had to work through fitting people for a celebration when we're not supposed to touch each other, But with more people getting vaccinated for the first time in a year, there's hope where Close contact business and, you know, we get up close and personal. You know with these ladies, you know, so everybody has to be careful and we just have to continue, you know, doing what we need to do until Till everybody's healthy and safe again. I asked her if she was prepared for the platoon of brides preparing to land upon her shore. She says that her store alone 500 brides have postponed and the last year She says yes.
Celebrating the Publication of 'Where We Bloom' With Designer Cynthia Zamaria
"Very special guest. Is cynthia samara of cynthia samara house in flour based in toronto. Hi cynthia now and congratulations. Well back at ya Because big reveal here. Cynthia is our covergirl of where we bloom. Our brand new book that will be available in Just a just a week or so around april fourteenth so we wanted to have cynthia on to talk about her business and who she is so And you're a first time guest of the podcast and I just want to introduce you to the listeners. So i guess let me just give a little recap of where we bloom. And this book. This is the first title in bloom imprint The do publishing company. That is sort of the boutique. Publishing arm of slow flowers created by robin omni and me and we. We started with this book because it was a way to build community and feature a lot of Sloth hours members showing off their workspaces studios shops greenhouses potting sheds barns. You name it right robin yes. We definitely have a great variety from you. Know from kitchen and laundry room to beautiful outdoor Structures structures a good word for it The the subtitle of where we bloom is thirty. Seven intimate inventive and artistic studio spaces where floral passions find a place to blossom. And those of you who have known me for years as a garden writer. No that i wrote a book in two thousand eight called. Stylish sheds and elegant hideaways all about garden sheds. And there's definitely a crossover into this book but these are dedicated floral spaces and It's it's just. There is a diversity of of architecture and location and personality and
"debra" Discussed on Slow Flowers with Debra Prinzing
"You had been. . In this was pre pre. . I think that we talked about you had kind of been transitioning <hes> to be more of a everyday flower. . Go to <hes> studio or retail space rather than putting all your eggs in the wedding and event basket is that am I portraying that? ? Correct? ? Yeah I kind of got burnt out <hes> the wedding. . Industrial Complex and <hes> had some bridezillas last year and I thought you know. . People just don't get it. . They're not understanding what I do what I bring. . You know I bring a service, , I bring my services a form of art to make their debut. . But I'm not a servant young. . And it has somehow through the years it had changed you know or maybe it was just my bad luck and certain clients just not appreciating. . <hes> what I do, , and it's not just me. . I found I was talking to my girlfriend's. . The. . Same thing across the board like. . I, , know you know them understanding exactly what I was talking about by you know somebody freaking out over certain color not being the exact color that they were thinking it was or or some flour being included that they never talked about <unk> something just something petty. . Just bumming me out. . So I went I went more full force into the store thinking you know. . Now I can really just express myself and not have to worry about. . Ruining someone's big gay. . Or Yours. . Yeah Oh. Yeah. . . Well, , the store the store. . Is seemed like you were able to really highlight <hes> your aesthetic even in the gift and garden items that you are. . You're selecting for your your merchandise <hes>. . I've never been in the store, , but I've spent time on your website and I love your quirkiness and. . You don't really want reproductions want artisan pieces you want local <hes>. . Items and you're kind of you know to use that tired word curated IRRIT- definitely. . Choosing what you're I, , what appeals to you and your I What I would like to buy and what <hes>? ? What turns me on. . So I'm my biggest customer. . Pretty good for the bottom line Mirror Olivia. . Now. . I try to not get myself too big of a discount. . So, , you're telling me about your space and where it's located in how you like when did you open that space? ? Opened it <hes> last year in June <hes> before we were next door is just a small pop up in the front of another another person studio and then <hes> the girls who were at my space moved decided to move to Hillsboro. . And I was able to take over this beautiful space about the square feet. . Gorgeous. . Little picture windows in front. . Awning <hes>. . I was able to <hes> get <hes> Nicole skalski sister <hes> the artist. . She goes by heart and hand creative. . She did this a beautiful mural inside of monster eras and tropical plants and we did this funky. . funky color scheme of a green and pink. . I told her I said I have eighty s Miami vice in my mind and she totally went for it. . So cool. . She totally nailed it. . Oh, , and then you mentioning National Skalski she owns <hes> is one of the CO owners of California sister in California sister is it <hes>? ? Is it Petaluma. . What town is she in? ? As she's in Sebastian Oval. . Yeah at the Barlow. . And she's hanging in there retail. . Wise. . Well I met you both on the same trip and I could tell you were kindred spirits and it's cool that you're both in retail forestry and. . Not Competitors you're you've figured out how to. . Put your friendship I and because you're not really in the same market really are you know we're we're very different <hes> I love what Nicole does I can't deal with Nicole does. . Her in Katherine, , their style is <hes> Gosh I don't know how to describe it. . It is it is also romantic, , but it's in A. . It's in a different way <hes> she's she's super local <hes> in her products in her flowers. Yeah. . . But I'm more quirky. I'm . more funky I don't know what to say like I'm more. . You know if we're talking San Francisco, she , would be located on Union Square and I would be located on Haight Street. . That's a great analogy. . It's