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And we have a very prestigious episode of the podcast for you today. The prestigious i. It is elegant dignified aid. It is respected by all. It is coveted by players from what we understand in knows how to set a table with the silverware in the proper spots that is the level. If you've seen downton abbey this show will be very similar to that. I've ever seen show. That show forever was downtown. Abbey when you know when i learned it was downton abbey. When you start watching. It was like yeah. What are you guys are mispronouncing downtown abbey. Come in everybody. You can find us on youtube if you want. Watch this episode. Because i'm going to be shown off my hardware on this show today. Youtube dot com slash. The band footballers and we've got twitter at the f. f. ballers instagram dot com slash fantasy. Football i've got a trophy. I've got to display. That's what i've got going on. And let's let's get right to taking it up to one hundred presented by head and shoulders of the walmart. I just want to conclude this season with a little bit of a. If you're watching on youtube. I i am holding up a trophy drove up to everyone. You get all the swag trophy. Andy won the contest. That take it up to one hundred contest and offer a strong start. But but then i had five misses in a row my apologies. It's tough it's tough to find. Someone is gonna take it up to one hundred when you're not taking the the top guys and so I actually had to go on a little bit of a run at the end of the year to catch mike and then i do have a golden trophy. It might as well be sterling. I mean startling. A certain hair of business in week. Seventeen took it up to one hundred against the cowboys with ten targets for eight Receptions one hundred twelve yards a rushing touchdown a receiving touchdown. And now i gotta trophy and it's johnson was about to. Yeah he didn't so he did not we do have another taking it up to one hundred segment next week and no. We're not predicting we're not predicting playoff players taking it up to one hundred in fact we're doing something far more exciting that i'm looking forward to We want to know a time when your fantasy team to to one hundred this year. Because we're going to read some of those stories. They are always very very exciting to find out that. Those last-second victories defeats whatever the case. It may be defeats for your opponent. That is like josh stellian and mr fund digs stack on monday night week. Sixteen just y- oh man just trounson on your opponent that youth. That was already bragging they won. And here's how you enter to get your story read next week on this segment. Post your story on twitter and tag us which is at the f. f. ballers and tag head and shoulders at head shoulders and then use the hashtag. Take it to one hundred and we will read some of the most exciting taking it up one hundred stories from this entire past fantasy football season so that will be a lot of fun and a reminder. You can take your hair up to one hundred head and shoulders available at walmart. You can pick up today and check out next thursday when we share all of those incredible taking it up to one hundred stories. I will conclude this part of the show by reminding you once again i in the champion and you are not mr mike and it is. It's not the same as beating you league of record congratulations. I would love this music so much. There was playing for me. That was wonderful. Well done look at least sterling. Shepard took it to thousand and it wasn't just wasn't a cheap victory. It wasn't because tie. Johnson had almost seventy yards seventy total yards. He just didn't score because he got pulled on the goal line because adam gays hates me. That's on you bro. you put it. You play your best. Sixteen on adam gays. Well my. my point was like if sterling shepherd just happened to have seventy yards. But he got the touchdown that and he got a rushing touchdown. that's ridiculous. It was wonderful all right. Let's do some by self buy or sell presented by pristine auction. I did i ever. I know he said this show is going to be prestigious. Downton abbey like and all that. Did i ever even say why. I don't think like the footy award winners are on today's show. Now you should know that. From tuesday. But i didn't say it. So maybe from the title of the episode as you get into your podcast app or on youtube. But yes. This is footy winners. And i'm i'm i'm freaking out over here because i until we get there. I'm holding all these whole envelopes. That are i mean. they're beautiful. They kind of remind me of slices of cheese which is delicious with cheese is beautiful and i. I'm sitting here. I don't know the winners. And i'm very excited now. We i don't know them either. And and brooks's delivered golden envelopes To jason and he will be. Those are probably real gold. Those came from brooks those away. Now jason just got rich on accident we all the best for the foote's that's right. Thank you drop. It's it's not hard for him to make some. He has a huge block of gold in one of his many rooms. And he can just take shavings off of that and make anything into gold. Gold leafed envelope so it's very simple for him doubt. It cost them very much. He's and he's got a rumpelstiltskin to turn everything into gold that rumpelstiltskin gold for sure. Oh fairytale broke right. I just needed to be reminded. It's been awhile downtown abbey over. You're getting all right week. Seventeen Jason you went over three. oh fantastic. Mike was two for three. I was one for three. I don't know if i've seen anybody fail completely in week. Seventeen before so congrats on that. Here's our buy sell for the day. It is a simple question for twenty twenty. One is austin ekeler top. Twelve running back Yeah yeah go ahead jay. Yeah i'm i'm i'm gonna by austin. Ekeler was a pretty much top twelve running back whenever he was on the field. I think this offense is one that looks to be great. I expect them to add another running back. But it'll be to he's they. They paid austin ekeler in he. You know he's he's utilized enough in the passing game that i think that'll bump them up to be a low in rb one. I'm actually a little bit worry. You're gonna have a new head coach. They obviously groove quickly. Attached to kaelin balaj While i was out he did deal with the injuries. I do not think he will be a taught running back next year. I think he will be valuable for fantasy. But i don't think he's a top twelve. I would put him in a assuming he plays all the games he would be in the top twelve the when you look at what he did. It's not necessarily. He's giving you top twelve production every single week but on the he's reliable every single week You know just a couple of games that were outside of the top twenty four and even then. They didn't really hurt your team. So what that catching ability and herbert has already shown hilbert will go to his guys. He's he's already figured that part out. It's definitely easy to get up there when you're catching the football. I do wonder if if we really drilled down into all the names that project in that top twelve if if acura would surpass some of those guys like antonio gibson rim haunt yet. Josh jacobs jane robinson i would take equa over gibson and cream hunt for sure really over gibson yes i would take him over gibson l unless jd. I'm just looking at the situation of You know right now. And i think that washington is going to resign mckissic. So if mckissic is there then antonio gibson can't hit that three down You know catching what. What was the the number for ekeler ekeler tied for fifth amongst our for a among running backs in. Yeah he did and he missed six games like okay. If the kiss around gibson can't do that. I think you're probably doing the right thing for our listeners today. Mike which is i think. Ekeler doesn't feel like traditional austin ekeler this year because of the injuries and then coming back and and sharing some of the work. But you're probably right about his future so and you just you can get there so quickly. If you're receiving you know tanya targets all right that was by herself from pristine auction and Look this is a great time to head over to pristine auction if you use the code ballers if you don't have an account over there it's free to sign up use the code ballers and give you a ten dollar credit in your account so if you ever want to by any of their you know. They have hundreds of daily auctions. Speaking of like right now which are you scope. And something mike. I am scope except i forgot. What player is austin ekeler. Where recorded so. Hopefully one of you won this. But there is an austin ekeler sign full-size authentic on field. Hydro dipped vengeance helmet. Hydro dan really at the legal. So whoever won that congratulations all right pristine action dot com. Use that code ballers. Let's talk some news news and notes from around the league. I want to be honest with you. Guys i'm gonna come clean about something. I've i've never hydro dipped anything. I don't even know. I don't even know what that means. I i imagine al borland does. Because he's a man and everything. But i've never hydro dipped anything and it sounds like something. I hydro dips my body in the bathtub. You've hydra dipped in about the mike. Yeah what you have just dip in water from my mom and words work moreland. Is it a painting technique. It's you literally dipa product in like they suspend the graphic on top of a liquid. And then you ask quickly dip the product and it sticks to it. It's really cool. Check it out. I've seen him do guitars like to now. Just picturing mike getting about seven coming out fully painted just completely had to tell. It's all get ready for burning man. Blue man group. Yeah all right. The browns head coach kevin stefanski. This is so unfortunate tested positive for covid nineteen to other coaches in two players. Hey look he's not going to be on the sideline for their playoff and he's not going to be able to help the team prepare in the same way that someone in person would. Obviously he's around. Virtually but it's it's not the same. I mean we've seen that with other coaches year and i mean for a playoff game. That stinks this interesting. Ron rivera saying that. Alex smith and taylor hint heineke could rotate against the bucks. Smith is not one hundred percent know. His mobility is a huge issue. Right now so we're series is giving him damp. Did you see the bruce quote. No i didn't know they were asking bruce about playing the washington football team. That record is seven and nine. And he's like. I'm not looking at that. We aren't playing dwayne haskins. Where i well. It's a good point and you think about that team i. I don't think i've given them enough credit to the degree that like their offense it struggles and but they've been missing pieces at certain times especially the quarterback as has moved around and their defense is outstanding. Now bruce arians also said. I think chase young said. I'm ready for tom. Brady and then. Bruce arians like be careful. What you wish so. That will be exciting fun. Josh jacobs last fun. Exciting arrested for dui in las vegas right after their win. This past week court appearance on march eighth. You could see a suspension We've talked about the suspensions heading into next year. You could see something with melvin gordon. You will see something with will fuller will fuller will miss the first game of next year to conclude his suspension for performance enhancing drugs and josh jacobs could very well miss some time to say he probably will. It'll probably be dealt with in the off season because of the timeline if that's the case we'll know heading into the draft. Hopefully how many games. I expect something around. Three games. For melvin gordon and josh jacobs and then one final bit of news the title one frank gore did not close the door on returning for seventeenth. Nfl season in the right circumstance is open to playing again in twenty twenty one is i mean. I'm at the point now. Where i want his son to reach the nfl. At this time that frank gore is still in the nfl. Debbie watson play fullback convert him to fullback or his own son. Sweet i mean. Could you imagine the extra effort you would give this far by side. You won't alma. Oh my gosh that would be great to have them convert to fullback. How funny speaking of sons fellas as twenty twenty one where. Everyone's looking for some good news and we were tagged on it. A whole bunch Because of what jason he went off on a monologue on our other podcasts spit ballers podcast did you guys see. Chi-yu has been canceled. A twenty year. Run for that little boy by one ears. He couldn't grow hair in twenty years twenty years and he couldn't do it. Yeah that was very funny season two of firefly which was awesome. Twenty years for freaking you. I mean you wanna talk about a not. Everything's different the moment. We hit twenty twenty one. Well we're off to a good start kyw you out of my life. After they like they made is a joke for that first year and then they just been collecting money for nineteen years laughing in the background. Oh they know it's terrible. They know i mean. Obviously they hear the feedback that everybody hates it and they've just they've made it. They've dived right into the deepwater of what people hate and said this is where we're gonna we're gonna live here because what people watch it to hate it. They hate watch it. They love or hate. It's high you that the truth i want. Invite everybody by the way we're going to get into the footy award Winners momentarily. But i do want to invite everybody over to clan. Challenge dot com. We are doing a playoff challenge. Once again it's completely free. There are about four thousand of you every year. We do it and it's a lot of fun so you can check that out at challenge dot com. It's the nfl playoff challenge through the nfl. And i'm excited. It's going to be awesome Let me tell you what. I'm doing for my playoff challenge. I am taking my line ups up to one hundred plan to win this year. And i think i've got the right guys. Look when when guys are confident you don't settle for anything less than one hundred. Well i mean. I my twenty twenty one Uk rankings. I'm already taking them up to one hundred. I'm already working on them. Everything we do around here will be taken up to one hundred and most importantly most importantly the photos that are about to come. These awards that are going to be given out are fully at one hundred. I mean i had players deeming me saying where is my footy. And i'm like dude. You gotta wait. You gotta wait for the show. You win did you win. Because it'll be in the mail but only if you win so look if you wanna take your hair up to one hundred with head and shoulders. It's available online at walmart. Head and shoulders is always taken your hair up to one hundred all right without further ado. Tighten up your Your ties put your jacket on mike. I'm disappointed you're not wearing some sort of alestra spy. I have tuxedo pants on. Okay well that's good to know. Let's get into the forty awards Welcome in one and all the twenty twenty thirty awards from the fantasy footballers podcast the most prestigious elegance wonderful awards and i don't even know the winners so very excited right now. It's us with this music. Second round again. let it run a little bit longer. area. Hey this is. When the camera's panning around the auditorium as performance of the year nickname of the year and favorites joe moment now is completed her national anthem. Or did we not get her again. She she flaked again. This is the fifth year in a row. Down lost were accepted Just didn't show. What is the music. The music is playing the whole time but because of the remote it's like dropping in and out. That's what's happening. Just feels like is bursting onto the scene over and over again. All right. we're here. i'm excited. I do not know who the winners jason has the golden envelopes and we are about to find out The winner of fifteen different footy awards. Thank you everybody who voted for these. It is always very very exciting. I am. I can't wait to find out the nickname of the year. But let's begin here with the performance of the year. Which single week. Performance was the most impressive. this might be a softball a layup. I mean alvin kamara dalvin cook tyreek hill tyler. Lockett and darren waller the nominees but jason. You have the envelope. It is time to get to the first win rum row. Please performance of the year winner. Of course is alvin in week. Sixteen with his six rushing touchdowns a championship week. But here's the most impressive. He won was seventy five percent of the vote in a five way raises too little. The runner up was tyreek hill when he had that crazy like thousand yard pace in the first quarter and he only had fifteen percent so this was a runaway. Win for alvin super camario. Yeah bit of a disappointment. He didn't have seven touchdown. So let's just focus on that. He should have also alvin your foot ease in the mail. Yes yes be on the lookout. The chief. The second footy is fantasy reapers man of the year. My place my stamp on this award which players painful injury hurt fantasy managers. The most last year james conner received this award he was very it was not happy to receive it. There are some awards that you don't want to get in the mail but it is still footy so he. He was still very excited. He's still shows it to the video award winners. And they're like dude and around. Say the name of the war. He covers the plaque. Yeah this year's nominees for the fantasy reapers man of the year christian. Mccaffrey saquon barkley michael. Thomas kenny golladay and joe mixon. I really hope this is christian. Mccaffrey it just did. Just look if you had one of these players the this is. The only thing i've got left was that he wins a footy all right. Let's get to drum roll please. The winner is with fifty two percent of the vote. Genetic congratulations christner. Footy is in the mail mike. Thomas came in second with twenty percent of the vote. Saquon with nineteen and golladay just four percent mix and three percent so it was about those three big names at the top of your drafts make sense right though the people that hurt you the most the most you know whoever you spent the most on now we'll send broken footy to this winter or you believe send it but we don't use any packing products. It's just genuine around in an oversized box. And then how it shows up as our shows up right probably how. They showed up for my team. Yeah you just all right to pieces. That were real good christian mccaffrey. You'll get some nice pieces of this trophy spectacular. Okay the third award today. Is the poopie pants award. This is an award that despite high expectations player letdown fantasy managers over and over again beckham won it last year. This year's nominees include ezekiel elliott. Chris godwin live bell. Juju smith schuster mark ingram and zachary ertz Now i know. Mike ran a full invested. Most of your capital some brooks's money on a full anti zach ertz campaign. I did run a little bit of a smear campaign. A and i approve this message. That's right all right. Let's find out the winner here. Oh my goodness. I am shocked. The winner is zeki. Elliott's all man with its upset. Five percent of the vote fifty five fifty five fifty five. Our data that is illustrative of his one zero three average draft position. He was the third running back the board. And can you honestly say now. I'll defend the fifty five percent here. Can you honestly say that. Zeke did anything at that draft price to win you a week. Absolutely he did one hundred percent. If you want to compare whether zeke want anybody some weeks or whether zach ertz did i mean ezekiel elliott was was didn't finish the a top ten running back or something. Who cares. he's the one. Oh threes eckerd's was a fifth round. Pick on that position and go get somebody else. The first five weeks of the season is elliott. Was three times a running back one. Never outside of a running back to where zach ertz you still spent up and on a tight end position. I mean zach. This is the worst year korean of his career or worse than he was the rb eleven. Yeah but that is. I mean if you get the rb eleven from the rb three spot that you drafted over alvin kamara dalvin cook. Because he went above those guys. I get it i mean the. The proof is in the pudding here. Gentlemen four thousand two hundred forty votes for elliot. Four thousand two hundred and forty disappointed people hits. It's zeke your foot. This is i. Didn't i. didn't drive zeke anywhere. I was never in that position to draft. But i personally want to thank ezekiel elliott. For was that fifteen weeks teen. He was incredible team. He was sat out. So i could play sony pollard. Gary go the title. I just wanna illustrate one thing on record since he did not win the award Before we move on your you know how we joke how easy it is to be topped in a week on titan because you just here's eckerd's weekly finishes don't do fifteen twenty one seven twenty eight forty three twenty three twenty eight four sixteen thirty to thirty one. I'm not good. It's not it's not even bad. it's. He was the lowest draft position of all of the players in this category. Like mark. ingram at four zero eight was useless surly so but you knew you knew pretty quick. You shouldn't be playing mark. Ingram zach ertz you. Just you have to keep playing him going. Well he's the get left. Bell ended up third by the way zakar was second thirteen percent of the vote. La bell was third with eleven percent. All right the fourth award the waiver wire wonder which we're getting more positive here might Which undrafted waiver wire stud was the best. Signing of the entire twenty twenty season devante parker went last year. And this year's nominees were james robinson. Miles gasman justin jefferson my new favorite player on earth T higgins chase claypool. Justin herbert and robert tanya a winner. There's three. There's three that i think could win. Yeah there's only two. I can win but it should go to blips going to okay. James robinson and the winner is who would should've been james robinson with seventy percent of the vote. I mean when you can get a top five running back weekend one off the waivers to it wasn't like you had to wait until week. Five when he got his chance he was great the entirety of the season. That was a happily moment that was and the winner of the award is the one who won the award. James robinson was incredible. And i'm very excited to find out what the future holds for him whether there's a lot of long term value for fancy players or not The second place Seventy percent of the vote coming in number two was justin jefferson number three justin herbert. I'm surprised server was only at seven percent. Yeah you know what was hard. What's hard about a player. Like just in herbert was he was a great signing. But then how quickly did you play him. After you signed him you know like and then how did you buy into playing every week. I think that was hard. Obviously we we had the shoe dropping Kind of narrative on the show for a long time so herbert is Legit yes all right number five here the fantasy wide receiver of the year. Now we want you to. We wanted you to factor in draft position. Big game performances. How did that impact your team. Who's the winner of this award. Last year was michael thomas. Michael dumbness this year's nominees. Davante adams tyreek hill. Stefan digs calvin ridley metcalf hopkins jefferson to me. This is a two horse race between atoms defined digs based on draft captured digs. I hope digs want it. Let's find out. I voted for him. I did too and so did y'all winter digs. It was a race. Stefan digs forty one percent of the vote. Runner-up davante adams with thirty eight percent is going to be pissed when he finds out. Yeah that is. Have you seen this defined digs how he's been propping up. Justin jefferson everywhere. And how they're like. You know best friends on twitter type of not nope awesome. Yeah so it's like digs is really embracing the fact that jefferson came in there in in dominated minnesota because what got to complain about. He's a footy award winner. I mean this is big time but that was a close race. Forty-one thirty eight. I don't know if i've seen on that close in while so. If adams didn't miss a couple of games he would've would've taken it home. I think it's all about that. Draft capital stefan digs. Picking him up where he did versus adams. I don't know if you had digs. I mean i. I can tell you as someone who drafted him wherever i could when you draft the digs. You were always competitive in in every league because you spend middle round pick. That's every single week. Great and like you said jason. Imagine not winning the championship. If you had the josh allens the funding stack yeah like me. If you reminds me of offseason trade offers like give you could put the player that you drafted wear davante adams. Wait in the draft plus stefan digs versus atoms. Whatever you would have gotten in the dig spot. I imagine people was defined eggs. One more games so Fantasy running back of the year. Same considerations here draft position begin performances last year christian. Mccaffrey won this award this year. It i imagine it'll be tight dalvin. Cook derrick henry alvin kamara james robinson aaron jones and david montgomery and i am really curious about montgomery's percentage here because of the end of the year but let's find out the winner. The whoa whoa. This is a tight race. Only three percentage points differ between first second and third but the winner is derrick henry equally with twenty six percent of the vote. Runner-up was actually james robinson. Twenty five percent and the person. I personally voted for donald cook. Third place with twenty three percent of the vote. Wow yeah this. I tried when the winner only gets twenty six percent of the vote. That is a tight race. Kamara was sixteen percent montgomery with eight percent. Aaron jones just one percent impressive a lot of Between digs and then robinson finishing this high that draft capital is playing a role in these votes for one love that i don't know who's winning these delightful. It's really fun. Because i care too like i don't know who's winning but i i really every single one of these i'm like i'm i'm rooting for my guy. Except for this next one. I know who's winning. I very interested to learn. Who wins the fancy travis. Kelsey of the year award. Yeah he didn't win it last year. I will point that out. No but this year this is different. It's like yeah no doubt so. Who's the fantasy tied into the four. We get to it. We've got a call. The percentage we've got it. I'm gonna say say ninety. Two percent of the vol. I'll go eighty eighty one eighty one. Ooh is this prices right rules while you can do their role. Oh man prices. Right rules backfired. Travis kelsey is shockingly the winner but with only seventy one percent of the vote dareus robert in the other two nominees for this fantasy tight end of the year really waller had twenty two percent. He was outstanding. Time and time again he would win you weeks. Which is something that i mean. That's what you're looking for from a fantasy tight end and then robert tanya with five percent Obviously we know alborn voted for tanya but I didn't vote for him. But i enjoyed playing him as a waiver. Wire pickups by the way travis. Derek your your Foot in the mail. You always yeah The fantasy quarterback of the year last year. Lamar jackson was the big winner Same considerations here murray josh allen patrick mahomes aaron rodgers justin herbert. I imagine this will be a tight race as well. I've got good excellence. Vote for I my vote was for my. My vote was for these stallion yet. I went aaron rodgers. I get i get. He was three. Pixel or three quarterbacks. Later than josh allen and allen was the qb eight off the board so very wrong. I hope josh allen wins. But but i think in rogers should win all right all right quarterback of the year. And it's not. That close is josh allen. The stallion everything. That josh allen does well i. i'm just so happy about. Yeah because you were your approach. I mean if the foot clan if you weren't listening or you weren't close during the draft season in that year. Josh allen was cau- wrapped on by all drafts twitter. I mean you wanna talk about the most hated most known bust of all time. It was down. And here's andy pretty much one of five people out there. Who was all in on josh love. Josh ounce talent. I definitely tip my cap to you because you were right to spend the whole first season getting craft on by josh allen was so bad i had to defend his completion percentage and talk more about his ability to help the team win. But now i don't have to defend that anymore. Which is pretty cool. And he obviously ended the year absolutely on fire including a a week. Where i thought the forty point. First-half tom brady was the better pick and justinian was like. Hey look it was better to like it was. It was wonderful. Mike spectacular josh. Your foot is in the mail. Yes right all right. Let's get to see me more for for his horse for his moves No with i just now. You don't wear these trophies on your feet. You put them on a secure where we don't send to all the humans so that they wear them on their feet. My gosh you said. Does he need a saddle. I would have been on board with that. The saddle would have been. Okay either. Michael gallup hate that joke. St- let's go to the breakout player of the year. Footy which is quite self explanatory there. Lamar won it last year. This year's nominees were ridley. Metcalf will fuller and david montgomery. I am curious about how this one will go. Although i think that capital win it. Yeah i voted calvin ridley. I think mccaffrey win. I voted despite the suspension. I'm not sure how he got there. I didn't i don't know if he legally got his breakout. But i voted for will fuller because that was if you drafted fuller and like what was that the eighth or the ninth yeah. He didn't help you win a championship. I needed my dynasty team was very yeah he dropped you off and he left you there at least brought you all right. It wasn't metcalf with thirty six percent of the vote. The runner up was calvin ridley with twenty nine percents okay. That was pretty tight guys. Last place was seven percent of the vote. All right that makes sense wise. Funny mike. i actually was In our dynasty league you know talking trades with different teams in willfuller. Fuller's name comes up and they're retort as to why the player didn't want will fuller was pill fuller because not knowing whether or not the the breakout had to do with yes. Fair steroids form. It's enhancing drugs funny. I had to look it up. Because jason's did he help you win a championship. And then you look at will fuller or i'm sorry Decay metcalfe's last eight weeks. He did not help you win a championship. Now it's fair. No he basically was out with a suspension during that time as well rookie of the year award lot of nominees last year. Aj brown wanted this year. I mean james robinson. Jonathan taylor antonio gibson justin jefferson. That's those are the big names to me. Justin herbert as well. And then ceedee. Lamb chase claypool tee higgins thrown in there. No good reason. So if only gives didn't get hurt. Yeah i mean i. I feel like the rookie of the year belongs to james robinson personally and then i would go jefferson second taylor third so far. But let's see what happens. Who's the winner. the winner is the man. I voted for justin jefferson roy. Two percent of the vote runner-up james robinson with thirty percents. He did break the the record for the most receiving yards by a rookie. Yeah that it worthy victor worthy footy award winner all right the comeback player of the year. Which fantasy player as you the most in their return to relevance Corey davis rob gronkowski jimmy. Graham alex smith this is a bad group is the nfc east of awards here. Who's the winner. Oh good it stays in the nfc. East alex smith the honorary perfectly. That this award is ridiculous. Alex did not start a game for anybody in fantasy. I love the he is the winner. Because he's he's deserving as a man as a person were rooting for him and alex ridiculous foot. It's in the mail voting with their hearts. On this one yeah. He wasn't the fantasy comeback player of the year. But he's the comeback player of the year. Yeah i don't know if you've returned to any relevance but whatever all right. He's in the playoffs. It's about heart man. I thought these are fantasy football awards that says back of the year. Okay all right says which fantasy player sh i. I think we just didn't have good nominees for this. I been thrown now. I m e grams nominated for something. That's a problem. Be red alert. Here's what happened just so you know. Alex smith one with thirty five percent of the vote. that means thirty. Five percent of the people looked at this list. Corey davis drunk jimmy. Graham went grows. I like alex smith. I'm gonna drag him right. The steal of the draft footy. Which player was the absolute best value in the two thousand twenty draft compared to their average draft position. Lamar won this award last year this year. Lot of great nominees. Calvin really in the fourth metcalf in the fourth gibson in the fifth montgomery and the fifth digs in the six fuller in the six alan in the seventh and rogers in the seventh round and the winner is a stefan digs. I time footy award winner this year. I think appropriate. Yeah that makes the most sense Love it all right. We have two very prestigious. Very special awards remaining. Apparently we have some special music for each of them. It is time a nickname of the year. Let her watch over you. The options are p. river for philip rivers bigger for justin herber unter injury. You know who that is. How about drew. Lock mr irresponsible. Or bruce wayne goldman could t y houston or the gasman myles gaskin. The transformation was complete. With derek yeti and will fuller flu in like the flying v jimmy graham pau. Aj villain brandon. I you can. And cia rule verte in this year's list of candidates hack perfectly jason lead. Well done though the walrus by the way one at last year. So who is this nickname of the year winter. I'm so excited it's period. You're your is in the toilet. Eighteen vote team percent of the vote in second place. Crandon i can. Yes the one. I vote i. I didn't think that the people latched onto p river this much. Well let's take a stroll down memory lane here and see how we got to p. river. All right yeah. And i mean phil rivers. I still think phil- rivers has it. Clearly you've shorten his name Well he had rebrand always fell. Now he to me in indianapolis fill the much needed a rebrand based on last year. He's actually short it even more. Just now he's now p. river that's not great. He don't want wanna be in the river his his marketing team. They're still working on it. But that's where he is right now right now. P rivers No i i. I saw to river. Oh i'm his marketing team you well. But that means he's p. river. That's not a good evening. Now you wanna go for a swim in the p. river. I don't i think that's an appropriate nickname. If i'm being honest. I thought i could get you on board started. You know. i'm i'm look. I've actually been contesting it and like no no. That's actually perfect. Thank you fill. Yeah you got to fill poor river. No that's his own fault of these. That's shame on the pea river a lot of fish living in p. river. That's for sure. Philip rivers not good fishing or whatever calling him is far better than jacoby perset was last year. Yes that's the hope for hilton and some of these other options and the colts landing spot. That nickname not going on shirts. No no it's not sticking unless he just thinks he got the review peer reviewed. You don't wanna go down to the shore of p. river. You don't go to no no no he's forever and we have on a shirt indians going on a trophy. It's actually going on his shirt to. I was going to tell you. i've got the The newest nickname shirt for shabhaz dot com. I have the proof on it. And we have a proven their album to tell you. P river is dripping on that shirt is it is ready to go so we will get that up there very shortly. Wow congratulations to philip rivers for the nickname of the year. We do have one more less driest category to get through here and that is the yes. Fantasy footballers podcast moment of the year. We had smelling salts and we had jason's big shimmy exempt. Don't forget about the slide. Whistle brought in or the moment from geopolitical past of gore balazs. The hopkins trade celebration was one of our favorites me getting dunked on by jordan reed. Waivers was not the wives surprise at the end of episode. One thousand was well. It brought upon a little bit rain as another moment. We have the you you put. We've got robert tonya. Brooks's wealth and jd. Mckissic scaring us with a chris. Herndon laugh thrown in so many spectacular while time again well time to get a spectacular group of nominees here moments from this past season. Reveal the winner and then we will play that clip on the show as well. just hope. it's not me getting dunked on the winner is no surprise. The wives some rise from show one thousand with twenty one percent of the vote ahead of runner-up smelling salts at fourteen percent. You can't possibly make us live through that again. Can you is that. What's going to know what a crazy ride. This first thousand episodes has been over. Congratulations our banana. When they were in that time answers bedroom calebs bedroom. It smelled like feet keys way too many times they started off and it was pretty scary because they basically said hey. We're going to start this fans. No one's done here. Here's this okay. Yeah and they kept their families. I threw it all that we felt like we were forgotten or left behind. Our kids are always feel like they are. Just tuck him in. They are helping with homework. They're at every show up. Every performance that i think is the greatest gift just so you. All know foot clan the footballers. Ucr the footballers at home. Yeah andy dynamic bird my home. Close jason jason. His undeterred ninety. Ninety eight dollars so they are genuinely that they are the thing. That's i think. awesome to about. The show is not only for other families but for our own families. We know that our husbands have job that our own kids can listen to. Each of us has our own little football player in the family and so so to not only have that person that they can get advice from but it's also their dad and they can look up to them and to watch that relationship. Grow between the boys and their dads. That's just been something that's been really special to watch too. It's going to be really cool to see those little guys grow up to be fantasy vollers. So here's the one thousand more. We're so proud of guys. Congratulations you got me. You did it down. How well that was. Twenty percent of the vote. The wives surprise definitely caught us off. Guard runner up looks like it was the smelling salts that were brought on set. And then the you who hamstring voices bigger winner than i would have I would've thought had twelve percent of the vote was a big hamstring. blow out. yeah that was pretty good and then jason getting dunked on came up next. Looks like you'll be if the mckissic gimme a kiss. Drop a great great. That thing is not this time spectacular. Okay well the foote's the twenty foot. We made it everybody. We made it through. Downtown abbey can go back to Be and what it was india. Thank you so much to. Everybody voted for this past Forty award winners. I'm so excited about the fact that we got through this year we made it through brought some normalcy to the twenty twenty year. Maybe even even if it was just one percent more normalcy to a year that was absolutely completely bonkers You know that's what we're here to do is do that. So our show twice a week right now for this offseason period of time we called the preseason because we'll be into free agency draft and coaching changes before you know it but If you want an extra episode you can get join the foot dot com next tuesday. We've got the top twenty four players of twenty twenty one. That has always very very fun. Episode we've got a footballers ama next thursday and we'll be into the truth episodes. Gentlemen can you believe it. I can't believe it. But i'm not sure that they can handle it. No probably not so. That'll do it for today's episode of the show. Thank you so much for tuning in and supporting us and we'll be back very soon. Stay safe everybody see on tuesday. 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Dem Fancy + Ep 1. Game of Thrones S8 wrap Up
"This'll be one of the fastest heating game. And then. Yes. All right. Gema Thoenes the first. Gay gatherings. To see that Falco. See somebody make a porn. They're really like hundreds of gain will bind something game burns. I like that. That's a really good, actually. Datura gay. Oh, three. Yeah. Welcome to them fancy, plus. Episode one I'm doing insurance. Oh, you are. This is like of the hooks. Still introducing defense do that. Can I introduce connive Nick wants to do it? And I'd be like I'll introduces the show, smart baby introduction secured six. Thanks, June executed sixty six which destroys the podcast plus at. You're really going. You're about to injure a mind experiments, also known as DEM fancy plus. On this episode of fancy plus. We're doing the first after show four game of thrones season. Eight curate for me while sand off the hey, Nick sand. Hey, gene. So as you say with me had called the regular fancy dinosaurs hoist. Yeah. Nickel Lou and June. Hello. And let's get started gametes night. What was it runs though? It's. Glad it's like I said, I saw what to say. And then we have it. Shortest. Okay. Let's get rolling so June. Kyle you've watched the whole season correct? Yeah. See old. Yes, the whole show, Nikki phony watched one episode haven't TD's and this was the first. Yep. So all the TS all the boot gates with Ryan's was like, sex, unsatisfying sex. It's like as a whole a good thing, but it was just unsatisfying. You'll just like it was just something positive. So it's like the lost rand of hotel rump. Those could be good never liked. It's like the forced fifth time exact I'm tied but we gotta do anyway, because we paid like eighty bucks of the nine. It's more like the thing to do between watching that movie and then go to get something it's something to do. Let's say tonight in general are so how was as night. So it kind of gives the plot season lights as an eight people died. If so booby, okay. Okay. Cool actually wanna plot. Give me the fun strikes. It's literally just summing up all the things that they, they would foreshadow all soil, there would set up in the previous seasons. So the, the two major wars happened and then someone ends up on the throne, and that's it. It's just uneventful in terms of like. Cactus of element. Not there's no catch development. It's just like all the character that. Yeah. No plenty of character development for Danny not actually hit character development into madness. There was a development there shadowing and yeah. But showed character development intimate is how she went to being the mad Queen did it actually show her developing or was it just a single single scenario incident? Apparently. Build up to it, and it didn't seem like it was out of character. They didn't plant those going mad up until literally like the episode that she turned mad really. I don't think so. I think she's always been kind of a crazy remember that time why she our goal those mosques in sheet, like put him onto crosses along the way she thought she. That's the holy liberate liberating. Yes, she good thing. Yeah. Tyrant's exactly. But in the law season way, she's she. She's she won the walk the walls broke down. And, and there was one I remember the previous episode in, in seventh season there was saying, like, you know, once Dan, you have to show mercy. And she's like, yeah. Of course. I'll tell you that like. She didn't do that to the mazal sensible, though. She still. So she was she'd into that. I just I feel like he was out of place 'cause the audience they wrote her character, where everyone light Dinares, though, like most portrayed as a likable character. You know, generally speaking in the masters of that accommodates that slave is bail. Whatever waves be. They gave up like she wants and she's like, well still get one hundred twenty whatever them then crucify them alive. And then just put them along the city's edge and leave him to die also, but there was also the whole season wish you were just sitting in throwing the whole time, doing a whole, but making stupid laws and rules shit. Yeah. Like I said, she's always been a crazy bitch Inc. Maybe I'm Terry and just kept at a little bit until share h tipping point. And then maybe the, the death of her comrade. Really released the based inside. We also didn't really make sense like she would could if the real character of Danny she knows like all right? Sacrifices do have to be made and shoot of over like that will that would not have been a tipping point. It went her friend, walls, and Mela Sandra. No middle. Sandra. Ready? But whatever. Friend that died, right? Yeah. She would have liked that if, if her character has, you know, grow to be stronger, and more confident as a leader, you'll be like, yeah. Like she got caught over very quickly like it just didn't make sense. How they will French. Yes, by she was that upset and the tender mad she's basically with a gun, but she was already mad. That's what I'm trying to get. She was already mad. Yeah. I didn't buy the tug Arians head likely madness also. So my opinion from the ad side is say's an eight doesn't really need. One more thing. She or at one cul drug died. She went into the fuss. She wanted to be birth alive with him with the three drags. She did not know she was going to survive that, that to me, does not sound like a sane person, just saying, just say she was in a goddamn fire. Is that same? Then that's all. I'm one hundred centigrade with you. I always imagined. She was saying she wants to brother, get gold on his head. She's had this whole say's in for her. I believe the whole show has been in dissenting badness, or just living with madness on the cost, and also when it comes to character development they had seven seasons to develop the characters they had all the chest bases in place. I just had to utilize them off to these. Yeah. That's what it felt like. But did they do it properly? Do they pull it off? Was this a successful season? So how did it end? Nick from the outside had it look. Well, just as to one talk about it does sound like they actually is reason for her going insane because as call point app before the whole mass crucifix, cruiser fixation, or the pronounce the creek whip mass-murder critics of already serenity people already surrendered that only. Sounds like she's already gone insane. And so any other more. Mass motoring is just should be the norm by what she's done. I think that's what she was using the word liberated. Full liberated too may same like murder, like. Liberating people just seemed like she was gonna kill. Yep. Like in droves until the leftovers just offered them. But all those decisions that, that she made previously, it was still after council from her followers. So like they said. Yeah. If you really want to do that, even though it's a little bit maniacal, that's all support you, but at, but it didn't seem like into not hate council at the end and just do whatever she wanted. So it just didn't make sense. Well, ego take into consideration. How Tyrian freight his brother as well. So he betrayed her. Varis. He betrayed her. The loss of trusted of vises was beheaded in front of her. What do you think is going to happen with the mad tyrant kinda Queen at that point her most trusted advises over trader and the one that didn't portray was murdered by her enemy? What are you a method to bed? I believe that she was the, the and not to mention she said, very plainly in one of the things the second season that she will lie waste to Kingsland. We'll go to king's landing. She will take take revenge on everyone. She will burn the place to the fucking ground. Just yes, she did that. She let let's take Tyrian right for it's right. All right. Suppled juvenile right tyranny? And how fucking failed her so many times. Right. Hey, says we should do this and he caused her hundreds of troops. Yeah. He he did. Right. So and hope his sister was playing time of those things or ready. There's a bit of should I trust them or not? Okay. I'll give him another chance. Okay. She she gave him another chance. He went to cancer orders and freed his brother most trusted advisor. What do you think is going to happen when he goes to her again, plays they're down the city? Am I going to listen to the person that fucking betrayed me? How many times that cost me, how many people that kept saying not to attack this place? When what his family was entrenched. It's just sorry. You're just fed, Jude. So what do you think about that? Anyway. What do you think about? I just I died because I liked deniers as a view of the ride is made, you know, portrayed to nurse as a personal, you know, she's mad, but she's still, you know, like you want her to be impelled like a powerful quaint, and you want to on the throwing I wanted her to be a good person, and that's the way they portrayed her in like all the seasons. Did they? Yeah. I liked it. I mean. They've home trade her in that way to her people as a benevolent Queen to her PayPal. But when it comes to other people, she seems a little less forgiving not to mention whole title is the title of revenge just that I think. More than as because at the start, she was the underdog. Yeah. Even with the three drag, it's when they were in their state shoes, rubbing around the desert sexy. Yeah. So you wanted her on the I'm throwing good. She was the other dog doesn't mean that she was a good person. Yano. I never she like I never said that. She was a good marriage that I liked. Yeah, I liked. So. I would have liked to see how the throne in a death was not justified really bad deaths. We really go to look at the factor of time in this as well. Like hell own has it Baynes in season. One, she started off, as a young, not a young girl. But like a teenage girl by. She's probably that forty she's matured a bit. That's probably why she have more of a cold attitude. So so, so there's Baynton this, this whole ideals inside ahead of manifested. And she starts to believe that she is the Queen of dragons, she is God, she is higher than everything else, like she has a God complex because she is in charge of the flame, the fire dragons. So why not you know if you could destroy city do it? Yeah. Yeah. I just didn't relate to in terms of good character in any show is that you able to relate to the character. And she so in the beginning of the show, I could relate to her in terms of being an underdog or wanting Justice and all that with an as went on her actions were very questionable. Well, I could not relate to win. I was what isn't from me to her as a character? I guess that, that plays in the fact that they, they ran out of source material at the coin. So this final season has been completely ad lived by the riders. I don't believe they've done it. Justice can justify her actions. But like as. As a form of, like media, it was just I could not relate to it. I mean I can justify. So it was just species the fucking Queen. Yeah, because she can that's that's all justification needed. Four. She turned mad, and, you know, like went crazy with the viewer still being relatable just real enough explanation. Where like, did you do you wanna say more of her development? Billy ray. What do you do? A whole episode dedicated to a golden eagle like precious wise looking 'cause y'all fall out of love to see that whole degradate Dacian to mind. You know what I mean like spinning out of control out of love problem? The main problem is the boys offered more money to make two more episodes. And they said, no, we're fine. With what we've got we've got enough writing. The truth behind that Disney said, hey, guys, you're gonna be directing star was next just, just drop this just drop it off at the pool and come to Disney, where everything's fine. Sunshine will. You could tell everyone just tied dinars look tired. You see the active on those talk show. It's not like just I just wanna get stopped like they will all would have painted demanding set of roles for Ron, especially with the different places. They've had to go in that final season. They were at the north of one point one day final season. Can I talk about two years? Shrug your shoulders you saying, well what do you mean the north like when the characters at the north? That's what I'm saying. So that would have had to fly to the area where the northeast. And. Would have recorded everything shot. Anyway, so that's why that could have made so many errors. Yeah. Probably have really bad things. Poach. This poach at green rain. Yeah. Don't forget anyway. Tyrian. Well, again, intending characters that you like aspects that you liked about them. He needs at the. Yeah. Like internal Tyrian like being dislike guy. Mike's Judy this dates unlistenable time and listening to his heart. Not logical cheering at the start like season. What you like to because he was sly. He was witty quick. He was logical trying to like elect that that aspect of like that's what people in love with then at the and the now just like. Who I like the Tyrian at the beginning of the show, and now he's shoot different people not someone that's turned lent lessons than grown. He's just a different character. No, I don't think it's that he's learned lessons gurney just he's a broken man, just pull. Because all the stuff that happened with shea that Berg like his character, change then yes, every wake. What? So then if he was broke it, he's like, what's the point? But he's old Justice. See and like lists like no, this isn't right? This is get one that doesn't mean the whole thing we shaped broke him into being to a best known a better person to solve the person. And at the same time he was always doing things to save his own skin believe when he went across to deniro. And everything was just a save wasn't that he was looking to. Right. He wanted to kinda died. That's mine to- predation of it. Right. And I think it's not his character change for the worse, because he went from the stern hot Atlanta's kind of guy who cares. I can pay my way whatever. And then when he was kind of forced to kill the love of his life, and then his father in concession kind of being just broke him. And he kept second guessing himself, because he again, he portrayed by this woman. He completely loved. Which before that he never second guess themselves. Didi not at all. No. He made a decision, he stuck with it after that did, did you think he was a man who made the decisions, stuck with nor again, it broke his character, again Auckland relate to him, maybe when he killed his father, he killed the lens to inside of him as well. Yeah. Definitely. So that turned him into someone who has here. But at the same time he's still last because he cared for his brother, of course. But he always loved his brother his, his lover's brother was never a pointed question. I believe, but he had no confidence knowing he lost it, which he did have confidence at the beginning. Just. Yeah. Usually with development they go from no confidence to gaining confidence. He wants the other way, but murdering strangling the woman you love to death and then slaughtering your father with a crossbow on the toilet. I think that will change as humid for yourself. I did it last week. Nothing bad you for the best that all the early reason why he became hand of the Queen was because all of various various was like, hey, these guys actually pretty good turns out, he was a good any, so like big about that. But batteries running low can you pause being. Yes. In terms of fine, so he's degraded again. It wasn't just it wasn't justified. Like I like my characters redeem themselves or whatever, like you just don't think this show was title of redemption. Anyone buddy wasn't I don't think any characte is developed this happy all the stuff that happy endings yet. They got a good day weaving. We've got Sean that Ned stock was a bit of a cont. Yeah. Well. When he was at that, when he was tell the story about when he found the tower with his when he went there. There was one of the king's God right greatest swordsman of all time. Right. Net stocked. Oh, people that he killed him. Bullshit, all really got trapped in the back. Told why lies like that's yeah. That broke Ned stocks character. Like he's not that honorable overmanned after that after I then I'm like, really? So some other guys stepped this guy in the mouth. And like through the back of the head and the nets took the credit for dead men contel no lies. I mean, you do need to have a story and that guy that got down, like ten guys, he was about to kill Ned stock. I guess. I guess we'll braids as kind of heroic stories, though, and they need like, I don't know if that's the best example. Example, I don't know if that should shape in his character few he wouldn't have been Albert obey that benevolent later of the notice if he said, well, I didn't actually kill the guy. Exactly. Here's the freida, Huron, showing how with the progression of the actual short. It was breaking characters. Yes. Right. Generally, what people originally we Ridgely thought Ned was this person who, who didn't have this who did not have a dishonorable burn in his body. But it made me more human. Definitely I guess, but again. So when, when this was shown to you, how was it shown to you through Brad who sort? Okay. So obviously. Yeah, that's that's. Startup. Brad's just like oh, I thought that killed him turns out he didn't. So I'm just using his honesty characters. I agree these, but then really than I think these whole show is just being about breaking characters and taking them to the edge of the complete breakdown know no one, no one's heading Toby. It's like clan would Puncog clam. It's really interesting that go the wave lady starring hot at all. They pushed that into a bit of brand of tough. No into sons this character little bit. I think like a little bit of elements of ladies hot world, like imply that makes sense. I kind of tried to. Online, so patently stock comes back to live. Yeah. God, why did they do that? Seriously? He's like, no that that'd be dumb. She can't talk anymore says why hanging naked. Also. Yeah. The whole not like the night Kane and all that. Like those just like walls, and then, and then never listening. Yeah. That was just so unsatisfying soy. What's that the battle of the, the, the night, king? Why walkers, Ron? People call on it. Yeah. You saying they rushed out of the skirmish they will push just literally like he wasn't even like a boss a boss battle at the end of the game. It was literally just like the plea boss battle used to. Yeah. Okay. So but I guess, you know, sometimes the journey is the hottest thing that is the nation. You know, these guys may have been terrifying theory, but on. Oh a sword. My only weakness. No. But. Since he's one. They've been teasing the nineteen right? There'd be teasing. They'd be pushing it about legends blah, blah, all this crap. And then all of a sudden. What? He's I would just to at this point. Maybe they were done because they come back every now and then but, you know, how much Thomas posits a loss time they came in, they've advanced, you know so, so they don't get better each time. They come back. The dead. The NAR is like they come back every now and then every winter, I guess, the white walkers, the last time they came out with something rotting during the long nights. So they don't come out every winter. Yeah. So the last came thousand years ago. Ego. Who's to say that, like the man the human rights hadn't gotten more advanced better weapons in our the loss time, they probably fought the with sticks and stones sold legends. Like, hey, these guys was so hot fate because I had clubs like, oh, no they killing us all, but this time they've armored swords dragon's all this shit if I don't know that's just make. But that's fine. What you said is amazing. If they just want once sentence of that in the show, where Sam family, 'cause he's like the Maistre, and he's very knowledgeable in book is like, remember, I've been reading even if he said the character, I've been reading the posture annals of the thousand years ago, remember, like, the, the humans back then had if he just said, fine, then, you know, the writers, do anything about it said that the, the, the men and the children of the forest pushed back the what walkers. So they had magic on this side. That's what happened. Yeah. So now they have Motte, maybe Matz. Trump's magic all the dragons. Yeah. So that's all because you don't really. They weren't really dare at the end. Mickelson king himself was like, the, the patriarch. And once he died everyone else. Sneak attack that I don't know how she jumped like whether knocking was using front of brand. And then all of sudden aria jumps at his back up where the other white walkers were standing, so she came from a of them try trying to. Like spider, but I'm not sure how she got his back. Yeah. Like at all through, really poor writing. I mean look like what would it be cool if she was under the snore and then she came up, and she tried to stab him, that would be awesome ought to be cool with that whole king, and the white walkers for like two sides, and have one of the main turn into a white walk? But that would be amazed. Then they, you know. Their main character. I don't I don't know what the reasons but they still had the conscience. And then they think it's all lost then day, stab the Nike as a white walk, not like that out of preferred that disagree with that. Okay. So you can disagree with the bomb just saying, my opinion like, that's another had Nick, I want you to recap the episode you saw recap of the episode recap the final episode force, and then the other two they cannot kind of hot takes on it. Okay. So we're with but village villa everything cities. It's a little bit to the grand good closer closer. Okay. Okay. So we just opened up with the city that's burned to the ground, and it looks like a dachshund setting as it always is people walking around looking up set. And then the midget digs up some dead people and then cries. Then we go to a whole with everyone the barbarians and the Amish people that might shredded turtles. And they'll like then the dragon lady turns up with a pretty good shot actually pretty good CG for the dragging. I'll say that. Yeah. That was really good shot of the drag wings caves off, like she was won't demonic character by looks of it. And then, of course, guy gets upset, and he froze, his pin down, and then she says, after the dungeon with him, which he does. And then snow turns up the other guide. Hope Jones and snows just like she's not bad. He's like, yes, she is. And she's going to be more bad. She's gonna keep being bed. And so we continue on and basically, to Jon snow, walks up and the dragging comes out of the ashes, and sniffs him. And that's when she's like she said, she always had a dream of what the fromm was like. And he's like, that's cool. And then stabs. Then the drag pans up, and I'm like, dragon's going to eat him or something because it's a toll does he's being raised him since they'll young. So I'm assuming that's what they would do. Get revenge or anything and it just melts the phone picks up and flies away. Okay. And then we have the council people, and then that's when they live, we're going to have a new king. And that's when he picks the guy in the wheelchair. And the guy that wheelchairs, like, yeah, I'll take his and then they will agree with that, too. The diversity Koydo. Yeah. And then that's when I'm going to go this way, as I will. I'm being sent to go out into the wilderness where I'm the kids, apparently keep. What? Keep watching me all the way out there. Okay. And then it's basically lady sits down and they will like and all, and then the person sailed off. And then he went on into, again, he went onto the woods with wall people. So what's stopping him from having a couple of kids like Columbus or anyone like that? And then it ended I'm like, okay. I still think if I was brain, the first order like as keying is to change my name, don't want to be broken any Bill. On the knows the name brand. No. I'll think about this, right? Brand was the one who played the game of thrones. And one that's not tight enough, man that's going to full. Need time that she still get a phone? So you didn't turn that microphone. Yes. So anyway. Okay. So brand played the game of thrones hardcore. It needs to be all the way like it's on an angle I could see from you. Yes, I am talking. And this is the way are having technical difficulty issues. All right. Divert distracting. Why the other day? We. More stable. Yes. Anyway, brag he drew. He won the game of thrones. All he's on the throne. Well, that's what I the king. So the thing is if he did not tell Sam about John's Arjun, right? I don't think the nurse would have waste to king's landing. I don't think she would have gone. Bad shit insane, right? King. Cars and fucking smashing windows. He's saying that brand planned Olis'. Yes. His. Because he did say at the end he was like, why do you think I'm heal? Yes, he planned it. Everything. Yeah. So brand actually played the game yet. And one of he's a psychopath. Yes. He's broken. Why can't you have kids because Dick's broken? Yes, he's in a wheelchair. So dude. Nice digs, bro. Nice digs, bro. Was Snapple something just because fucking Stephen Hawking's had kids that was before. It wasn't that was jury. Maybe for thing it's different. Physically how they're just take sperm out. Well, maybe it's a different thing like your brains connected differently to that. Pop. Stephen hawking had a disease that made him made him in. Hello. How are you brands broke his spine yet, but he's numb from the waist, Dan? I don't think it's kind of like that. Doctors but vertebras the higher, you know, up different parts of your body controls different parts of your true. Let's get it up. It's like they could extract his sperm. Well because. Because she's tried. Jamie's style. Because this is what I saw. This is why Jamie doing before I got a window either way brand won the game of thrones. It all led to him telling Sam about John. Because he told them. And then they both told John, we who told. Deniro's. And then he also told the sisters who toll Tyrian and it just late from the Tiriac told various and the various conspired to try to get rid of dead narrators, and it all spiraled out of control from that just from that one secret of John's real birth. Been such a good ending. What he me up. He me up. So like everyone's somehow is like gathered in one room run. It's a big epic battle like just one on one fights and all that. And then brand news, Iran. Wall, Jamie, and Jamie stabs soci-, and then Jamie sees that and it's a crying almo- what I've done brand gets final Ruben from. That would have been amazing Yankee. That was really cool. Yeah. So yeah, I still good. Any would've been that, that is the very final sane is brand just tends to the Cameron and smile. The rain just kind of comes down, I've room and the screen goes black. He just winks. The cops out amazing storytelling session, Jamie step again all rock. Let. If you've Brad like wards, Jamie and that. Yeah. That would have been amazed. See, I don't have an issue with that, like the death row just because I think sometimes the most common death and the most on impact. If death is the most impacted not really just tonight. It wasn't do. I'd like. I like I like characters that die casually like it just. That was nothing. And that's all I were nothing. But there was something, there was something. I mean, remember that saying say's in one with Johnny pushed? Brian at the window here that episode was throwback to win. They push through Jamie's character development straight. Yeah. I love unimpeachable deaths isn't another terrible character thing that they did with Jamie like need. He had all these great character development since as in one. And then I threw it out the window. Yep. That Bush he's just. Would suppose he relies you wanted assoc- back? I don't think that they didn't have a clue. They must have got some bad sheet riders didn't have ACLU's going on. And in the just fucked up. They spent a year and a half getting the show. Almost two years, getting the show ready and they miss the Mark mood like how do you do that human nature HBO all the time west as two is a sham Bill. And now this the more time you spend on something, the less people are gonna like it all the same haven't for as well. It was just out of the show, you. Yeah. That's another show, which was basically it just in prison, where it's just what would just gonna get transferred to another prison. Everything keeps going on as normal. So let me ask you a question as well, though, if this season came at a year straightaway, pretty much with the long gap, would you have still felt the same way? Do you think what do you mean? Like, if, if rather than have a two year gap between this, and the seventy s and then the final season if we still fresh in your mind, and it was normal break between seasons think you still would've felt the same. A writing and all that other stuff. Yes. Yeah. You sure. Are we watched it all recently before season? I came out every watched everything again. So it left my mind, then I'll raising one and good up to minister watching season eight again. But boy, would you have Ray watched that if you didn't have the two year gap? Yeah. Exactly. So maybe would have been different inside your brain at that point possibly. I don't know. I just think gaps kill shows definitely. But then again it's just like it. We'll ask Nick like it. Gave you more time to vista. Also, what expert expectations just builds up. Expectations get higher and higher if there's of course, of course and it's just like some of the scenes like the start of that lost episode the final episode about nine minutes before someone out of the word. Just dragging like guys time is lobby. Brooding at the final episode. What does this again? Reading. Yeah, but I agree with the power like you can't have too long breaks between shows because again it takes away anticipation at the same time. And of course, it is. This completely unrelated to game froze. But there's been other shows that I've seen with I've taken long breaks, and the audience attendance of watch has completely just dropped off a cliff because people like it's been too long on the caring in general. Exactly. What I'm just thinking. So you're allowed to do that. I'm taking photos. So in relation like 'cause Amazon soul how great too and then now going to release the lowering Jerry's like that's obviously from the response of how great jetty. You know how successfully it was. You know, one on one match the level of gratuitous violence and into call. I don't know. I think it would put a stain on the Lord of the rings name. That's what I'm saying they can do it differently. I make him make it again. A high fantasy again for for a similar. But it'll attract the same audience move different audiences by not being exactly like game of thrones dad, they're going to make it exactly like throwing they wanna be different. And, yeah, of course that's going to be, so yeah, hopefully you how do you think that like when people when majority of people are very dissatisfied with game of thrones end digging? That's going to affect how the little of the rings is going to be mad. And think so because all of game all of Lord of the rings is vain written. It hasn't had the first like five done, and then the losses in to not done by white flog. It just keeps on delaying it because rod his blows isn't based on the Lord of the rings. Done based on a few things. But all that law's written. Yeah, yeah. So it's unlike they had to actually make up these whole thing that whole season was made up. So they had to, and they didn't know how to write for those characters with the source material, and that's the issue. But my main question I need to ask you does this funnels as in put a strain on what is probably one of the greatest show on TV. Does it tarnish its name? What do you mean? What catherine? Yes. Do you still hold it high? Okay. That's fun degree with that still pretty decent shooter from start to end. From start to end. No. But I'm just saying as, as a whole has has a hope. That's good. I just have one criticism needs more, brother sister, fucking. Dr say someone from the outside. I don't think it really drags down the rest of the impact of the series, had no Helbig I've seen how big game of thrones has been it's been a phenomenon. So think this last season could actually really tarnished that or anything it's been it's been a cultural phenomenon especially for like all those people older than normal normal people like fantasy now like one game turns do you like tons of drags the of the rings fuck off, nude. Figurines head cold. Possible without the original of the rings movies. Lord of the rings also dungeons and dragons all that stuff played a part in in game of thrones. Yeah, I'm sure Georgia Martin was just a big dungeons and dragons player. And this was one of the campaigns that turned into a book, like now a playing game of flown to twenty I win. Like you tens of like mainstream media. Exactly. As call. Let us know in a race that it was just had the economy work in Lord of the rings. That is game of thrones. Yeah. That is basically what it is. How do people get paid? People get fed. I couldn't agreeable politics. How does like what's that Beijing? Lord of the rings which magic. With our garden. Minister is it Mr. the moment on, you'll minister, but yet Keanu Gundel like how do people get fed? Like, what are people all the ride is a robot? Well, the ride is hand winner and writing and pillaging nothing. But like kingdom. Ron, Ron was like one house. If, if you're back in the kingdom of row Hon is across a big region with, and then they all just. And then they all just onto that hunted helps tape Helms yet was Helms stocked with food already that's been the go-to in wartime. Yeah. So just whether they get all their food and inheriting stuff, they just inherited it all the food. They wanted them. One hunters hunting was still a sport hunting for food, farmland thought homes eighth Helms they haven kingdom. That's built sieges. Right. It's built a defend against so a sage that could take like six months. They need enough food philosopher that. Garrison had a garrison, and we had people working, they just to do that. It's a very old fortress left previous civilization, but the that they use as here and also we actually see the whole of the entire fortress itself, live. They could have been like we. Yeah. They have been Ladas and Ladas of food. Yeah, it could've been done just that. But it could have been like even pot areas. We didn't see that will find land as well at the same time. Scattered throughout the land of middle. And like it. Like some economies. Obscure thing is not all of society has been an economy, like they could still just be traitors, like trade could still. I mean, not even like I, I do know because they have BAAs like, how do you pay for drinks? They has to be like a standard currency but also trading cards e also don't forget, there was a dragon sitting on a big pile jewels and gold that comes from an economy of some sort, so the dwarfs will like the whole is economy, so. Goblins in Harry Potter. Yeah. Okay. But game of thrones overall, not rights as in but still great show. Yes. Yes, I give it seven dragging breath out of ten June. Give it a three mad cleans out of five. Okay. I give it six wheelchairs out of ten. Give it one insist night of passionate. I shouldn't have said that. Now I feel achey. Don't worry. Right. Dr. Anyway. Anything else any other final remarks? What do you? What do you think the game of thrones? Sorry. What he thinks that the future of it. There is four spin offs planned. Yeah. Yes. Just leave it alone merchandise. They're going to just hall HBO's cash cow release something every couple of years for merchandise. Shield dude to sell the rights to Disney. Oh my God. You're going to be getting cuts never gonna sell the Disney cartoon rights. So these Neo somebody will make like a cartoon now. Hey guys, let's go the veggies. I've gave it throats. Not everyone can. Gave it to her. That'll be Saturday morning cartoon as well dragons one as well. So we'll excuse me, Queen of the news. Game being sucked in war. Now, fromm wouldn't want wanna be that. We're lauded. Well, I think I think the future is in video games. There'd be a few different videogames. I mean really likes to say like like age of empires style games. That would be cool. Why haven't they done? Electable collectible card game like a trading card game will be an open world game. Yeah. And open world game just slaughtered ever to the trading card game would work really well. Like you're giving you see. And then you've got different decks, different houses. He'll basically talking you heroes and she'd so just just. Telltale fans but that was not a real game of FRANZ game. No. It's like Batman game. No, there's much better games out there. But yeah, this shows, I'm sure they'll, they'll, they'll be audio books podcast or something. It will live on the it's the game. A song of ice and fire may be over. But the game of thrones is never over. Yup. Yeah. So go some of them are going to end. Still be teaching that she didn't like future school. She's just never got ahead because Jorde, your Boy, George alma is never gonna finish. That's, that's also another guys. Anyone who disliked the ending of that show that is the game is roads? Okay, georgia. Martin is never going to get off. His dick never gonna rot the as he still has one more after that. Apparently he contacted run a like what is it a season of spring or whatever it's called? So he's never gonna write the next one, which is called ending. Please give me more money. Here's the ending that you saw is the negatives forever. Trawl everyone does. Right. The ending of the show. He'll tell everyone he wrote the ending. Jo-john actually told Debbie Watson, one of the Henry Winkler, whatever his name is the ending of the show. Just in case, he died because that's the ending. That's not be the ending. It might have had liberties, but he doesn't have. He's like show Jomon. How does your show going to interesting because fuck no, no. It's just pick carrots brand, quite brands the king. What if you need to make it happen? You have to consider it more people most likely watch the show that actually read the book. Yeah. And that's read the book, and that's what's going to happen is the major people who know of game of FRANZ gone. Well, the show's over, that's it. And there's going to be the people that Steph, go well, actually, in the I don't care. Nerd talk the other problem. Since the show ended, I even if the ending of the book happens still, I'm going to tight that they were going to. I'm not going to read the books fuck you. Hey. Anyways, any other final remarks. No. I actually appreciative that we've got like a medieval fantasy on made into a long TV shows. Well, that's, that's what I'm actually grateful for. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely his for the future of that, hopefully, we say, low violent dungeons and dragons, here, though, so good, but done dragons, it's too hot to make into a TV series of movie or anything. It just is just picking storyline. Yeah. You just figure start. It is it is just collaborative storytelling, because this dos rolling and stuff doesn't mean you the world, the whole collaborative. Storytelling thing what makes it hot the good as a role playing game because you're making a new story with it. It's hard to feel like that would be just to try. No, I don't think so it's just the title, you donate to put any other things you just have classes and papal on an adventure. You donate to bring all references to the tool free Potter episodes of different positive a little of the rings. Often and really ranger you get your. Tanks. That's just fantasy. Clauses in Lord of the rings you your hobbits, but it'd be related to something to do with the coast and also dungeons dragons like you'd have like baldur's gate, you'd have the sold coast, all the different locations throughout the water date. You'd have all that stuff. Just just put in into a movie like the same thing could be done with magic together that could easily be. Yeah. But that has that has one story that that's not Bill under Jag has earned story to dungeons and dragons has these avengers. You go on. Right. Right. But it's build your own story. Yes. Also nice world. There's also. But that's the thing as American horror story. Yeah. He season his folly doesn't link copying story. That's not true season. Eight was a combination of three different. That the. Make little Easter how it connects to the previous. I'm not saying it's impossible to do. I'm just saying. It'll be very fucking hot to translate into a watchable made him. That's what I think. I think just be like gamma thrones Lord of the rings as you said, like that's all it would be like it just have references. Why do you need series than what, what, what putting the DVD title on sale element? Accelerate. It would sell its sales. Let's yeah. Because you'd reference baldur's gate once some note in the back will go. Yes. So making h season it's totally different like the second season doesn't with the first season it's based on the dwarf and he'd adventure the third season. It's again the, the whole point of Indies, it's a collaborative storytelling think-i crate urine story as you'll playing. That's what I'm just trying to get. That's why de so good to try to make that into watch. Don't you remember that really cool? The really cool movie. They made with Jeremy Irons in it. Yes. Show that was a really good. Really face killed Guedes. That as a kid on it was crap. Nah racing Li it was so good. Fucking Lyle Malla was a mall in wines. I was in that movie. And also that guy that played one of the character's names, there was Johnny Rico. It was. What were they fighting, they'll fighting democrat, and also Jeremy Irons had he wanted to stop that control the dragon? Yeah. What was the character, Jerry? Jeremy Irons, he wasn't. He was the other guy shawl something. What was close? He never cost the wolof, what was some of the classes, then they didn't really. There's a faith faith was loss. What else is it that weeding fan? Maybe the red staffs. I don't really sell this, the because Jeremy Irons in it, that's all you need to know. Jeremy. And it had the guy that was in slot is okay. Again, I understand what you understand where you're coming from, but they can make a movie. They made a movie at a battleship call and in name only remained. But still, they even utilized pot of that with the soon NAMI senses to target ships, those amazingly battleship was they, they, they could do anything top down to that'll ship. If you had a story, just hit a boldest gate like people love it. I'd like to see they'd love to see baldur's gate on the big screen in the monopoly. Move. I'd love to see baldur's gate that love to see sawed coast, they'd love to see some of the major villains like the wizards of water day like people wouldn't want to see them. Actually, that's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's and your opinion is that people would like to see. No, I just think it would sell that's anything. So that's an opinion. You planning one plenty what I don't know what they're doing, but they planning something in the media. Okay. It could be anything. What about what about these TV series? Dan day run bunch of guys a plane day. Right. And then it cuts to them inside the world. And that's the whole thing. They get sucked into the game because it's a cursed coffee. Monje was the import game. It's better than the cartoons, where they go on a fiend park ride and just end up in the woods. All again all. How about this as dean? The idea for TV show. Make was. Like you just have to people playing DD and whenever the talking about what they're doing. It's cuts into it. So it's like their imagination. Yes. That's why I said, that's what I'm saying. Gets up team that was often and then they playing it, and then it's them in just doing what they go into. Yeah. So, so they actually they're like, oh, shit. We're not like cuts animated socks audit, the animated scenes that. It's the live action which we good. And you can actually have a good company. Just looked at the needs to be parsley comedy, it has to be copy super series. Yes series. Yeah, it just can't. I don't think the works seriously. Dude. But that's only from what you've seen us play. It's what I've seen other people play as well, like a lot of cats. I wanna madness. I wanna fuck play serious. David. You guys go. Punch the world. Always does that even when they do series DeeDee, she on like ekit sundry, the channel where they would Matt Mercer, it just it's a comedy thing. It's hilarious and said no for the dam. It's never fun for their crate. Great, thanks. They ran my campaign based guys spent ten weeks working on his just broke it part of the. Yeah. I guess. You're right. And that's being like I just like to say some day in day on the on the silver screen. I'll love to see that as well. I just don't know how would work how would translate. I'm just like just bullets gate the game, right. That was that was good story, good story. And then the shed has Vom that was all surrounded. He's, he's Dany story. Right. Okay. So everyone's just the Bah. Okay. What again, I didn't know the bowl game was actually dean day. Oh, yeah. It's, it's based off the. New that way way after I play. Say that the side it says it uses the rules of daily boy, I think or three four. The bed dungeons and fourth addition that was like not technical game now not collaborative storytelling, go to hell. Okay. Anyway. Scamming thrones. But. It's good. It's good. I by the way, I spoilers in it. So if you're going to this point, sorry. Sorry. To skip like the lost ten minutes or something? Yeah, we're gonna be all, by the way, also HBO's loss day cash Gan there. What cash cow game of thrones? Then have you just said, they have like full spinoffs if ever make it, of course, they will they're still working on the two or three years. And we'll get one, exactly. But that's two or three with that they're making money lease kidding me. D- DVD's going to be coming out for that in two years for the game of their final season. That'll take fucking half and every taken about a year and a half off. Release a final, and then they'll release like a collective season. We'll have every single season in the collection. Non is going back to collectors and they'll be the ones where you get the special jackets and you'll get they'll do much this one has the throne in it. Forget about the Netflix Steelers. Dan deal, whatever fucking deal after FOX lapses, whatever the deal that they have a FOX or the Ray the reruns that will come out of kind of I kind of hope that Netflix can make deal with them because I'm seeking Foxtel heaven. The whole where all holy holy than Dale fuck off everyone else happen. So the reruns, they'll make shoot load of money for that, I know but I'm just saying they still lost at advertising cash cow, Michelson appetizing. Advertise, heavy advertiser, Netflix show. How do you advertise with the DVD's you don't ads from live TV can we need the laws? The'deep bought with it adds unscramble ED's. Yes. Loss balloon. Ray you boy was capable ED's. Yes, no. Yes. I've bought many of the raise, there's no onto dude. Dude fuck man. They put us go madman is not gonna be releasing that. But I'm just saying advertising TV, but also advertising, the DVD don't make much from that because that's usually for movies and TV and usually the advertising on your madman stuff was other madman shows correct. Yes. Okay. So that's great advertising. You don't have to someone for that. They can just go on. They've lost the yeah. Thanks for giving me money all the hatred Osho. Thanks hates bureau money, the whole thing makes people, okay? I should watch this on HBO for two noble. Yes. Not to mention as you said, Netflix, they'd rather go, the wave Netflixing. They release a Netflix. Not many people are gonna by the collector's edition, actually. That's a lie, though, by collectors at dying their dying. Braid. It's remain stable, maybe, but white remember, if XBox digital cells, go well blue rays next to go media as we know it is gonna change. But I'm just saying that hatred of loss day cash care, they say saving Lee cash. Gather, they know that we'll make lots of money from the time they will be they'll keep doing the jump to mall, Haya formats as much as I keep you on, on TV, though, on TV. So I think watchmen they're really putting a lot of because. Because unlimited. Watch watch me that were grooming their next maybe watchmen. It looks pretty good. They were grooming. Westbound to be their new game of thrones. And that didn't go. This is the watchmen is our recently watched watchman, again, recently filled. Yeah, six months ago, so not recently and it's just it's hard to get there. It's amazing like it's so good. This one's gonna be different this. This one's going to be very different. Yeah. I think it takes place after a while after this modern Monday. Yeah. It's set modern day that was set in they called the wall, so ill watchmen. I don't know this. Lots of Russia X. I think it's just watchmen in name only remember tag that says who watches the watchmen. Yeah. That's the tag from the comb. Again the movie in the TV series as well. Yeah. I haven't really given us much to trailers it looks like there's an army of raw shacks and chaos since he's okay, it's pretty much it. Well, good luck to them. What type of house did, we'll check have had the ability to the database? Will okay cool. That's my sees. That was his ability. That magical mosque that kept on changing Inc. Plus, yeah. Yeah. That was from. Yeah. That was it was a default dress. That's where you go from what that's that's really rigid story where the Maas came from is that he was Boston stepchild, and he got a job, full some dress, making company and the person who ordered address didn't come through. 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