20 Episode results for "Dean Heller"

September 20, 2018

POLITICO Playbook Audio Briefing

04:25 min | 3 years ago

September 20, 2018

"Thursday morning, I'm Anna Palmer and welcome to your politico playbook audio briefing. Stay tuned after the show for a message from AARP were kicking this morning off with a hot, take by Kyle Cheney on what could be the GOP's October surprise. Kyle writes that democratic operatives are increasingly worried that Republicans are working to undermine the FBI's Russia probe by teeing up a series of document dumps meant to gin up Republican voters ahead of the midterms. The Atlantic broke a big store yesterday that's reverberating on Capitol Hill. At least ten Democrats have signed a petition to make it more difficult for Nancy Pelosi to become speaker. The lawmakers are trying to change the rules to raise the number of votes required to nominate a candidate for speaker right now. A speaker candidate must only get a simple majority of caucus members before advancing to a floor vote. Here's the reality. This is likely to be. Defeated in the democratic caucus. Soundly five percent of Democrats signed this letter. This is the way for Democrats to let off steam, but underscores in part that they have no one else to run against Pelosi Pelosi supporters even have a mechanism to quash this before comes up for a vote. In some ways, this could hurt the anti Pelosi movement. Showing that at the moment process is the only tool they have to go up against her. Here's something few people know it's rule, thirty four of the House, Democratic rules, and it says this with respect to voting in the house of representatives for speaker and other officers of the house for each committee chair and for membership of committees. He majority vote of those present and voting at a democratic caucus shall bind all members of the caucus. So let's break that down. That means every democrat must vote for the candidate who emerges as the nominee for the caucus vote. That means if this does not pass the majority of the caucus nominates Pelosi all. Democrats must support her on the floor. In the past, Democrats have an enforced this, but they can, and people could be out of committees islands. If they bucked the nominee. Jake and iron Columbus, Ohio. This morning to interview democratic gubernatorial candidate, Richard cordray and Representative gymnast who's running for the Senate. We'll have a live stream of the event starting at eight forty five AM tune in and here's the latest on Brad Kavanagh me as he cook reports at Trump and Republicans are growing more bullish about his survival. The Omar has looked at how k. street Republican women are rallying to Kavanagh's defense publicly posting on social media. Their support while Josh Gerstein is reporting that the presence claimed FBI can't probe cabinet allegations is wrong according to former officials, the Washington Post has a story up that FEMA chief Brock long considered quitting over his feud with the homeland security secretary, but cited not do in order to focus on the administration's hurricane Florence response on the political front. The New York Times is reporting that Nevada, Senator dean Heller is giving Trump a warm, embrace calling him a great leader on accomplish. This call. It's a striking change from Hellers position during Trump's twenty sixteen campaign in the juice. We've got Darrell Issa who's been banging on the door trying to get an administration job for months, getting nominated to head the US trade and development agency and Gavin Newsom, California, Democratic gubernatorial candidate is going up with his first general election add this morning. His campaign spending more than one million dollars on the California dream, which focuses on his plan for children's education. Here's what's on tap for Trump's Thursday. The president is flanked Las Vegas this afternoon to headline at seven PM political rally at the Las Vegas convention center. He staying in Vegas tonight subscribed to playbook, politico dot com. Slash playbook. Today's episode is sponsored by AARP. We'll fifty plus voters. Decide the Ohio midterms, the latest issue of politico magazine series. The deciders is examining working class voters over fifty. Ohio who are feeling economic anxiety and could decide the gubernatorial and senatorial elections. This November visit, politico dot com. Slash the deciders to learn more and to view the latest politico AARP poll results.

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Democratic Strategist Bernard Whitman Predicts the Midterm Election Voter Turnout

Bill O'Reilly's Free Podcast

08:50 min | 2 years ago

Democratic Strategist Bernard Whitman Predicts the Midterm Election Voter Turnout

"So let's bring in democratic strategist Bernard Whitman. He's been kind enough to join us a number of times talking about how he sees the upcoming vote. So any of those numbers that I just gave you quibble with anything that. I said you feel is wrong. I mostly greasy Bill, but one late breaking poll that just came out from CNN dean Heller is actually down by three points against Jackie Rosen. And I think that does really really instructive if you look at the average that takes into account polls and take to three or four weeks ago. If you look at the most recent poll that just came out, but a day ago, a you have Heller losing to Jackie Rosen by three points. And if you actually look back in Nevada racism in the last ten years most Nevada races. The Republicans have been over polled by one to four points typically late in the election. The Republican pole Lee has which the methodology though, did you look at them ethanol in the CNN poll because it usually skews about ten points higher for Democrats. No, it's it's a likely voter polls based on terminal based on modeling. But I think ultimately who is more Republicans or Democrats in the CNN poll in CBO, I can't say they don't have the numbers right in front of me. But it's generally based on. Expected likely turn out. And I think that we've seen before Nevada likely turn tend to be over predicted Republican. So I think right. Polling. The polling can be based on methodology that polls just as many Republicans as Democrats in the state. I get your point it more Democrats are gonna turn out, but I don't I don't own the methodology, and I don't trust CNN poll because CNN obviously is skewing to Democrats. We gave numbers yesterday on a study that said almost ninety percent of CNN viewers vote democrat now ninety five it's nothing to do with his poll. That's completely different. The Representative base of who is going to likely vote has nothing to do with watching the news. No. But it has to do with whether you trust the methodology CNN, and I don't and they were way off on the presidential election in two thousand sixteen. Okay. So. Most. But not Rasmussen. So that's interesting. So I'm looking I'm looking now at them, and they could be they're the they're the ones that are friendliest Republicans Rasmi, absolutely. And if they're wrong on Wednesday. I'll be reporting that they were right in sixteen now based upon the analysis if divided goes in Arizona, too, if they both go into the democratic ham public is gonna have some problems if they lose Florida in the Senate, I think might be might be deadlocked. They will Gillan is going to win Jones going to be Rick Scott, and I just cannot people. Splitting the villains in voting for Gillam has been handling ahead. Guillem against the Santa's a Gilson Santa's that's going to be guild is going to be this the incumbent governor, Rick Scott Bill, I can't see Gillam winning and Rick Scott when you take the progressive African American and in voting for the preview at hand. In order for that to happen to have to be a split ticket. But both races are razor thin and panhandle because of the hurricane. The polling is very difficult in there. And that's a Republican stronghold now on the house. And I think it's interesting elements here in Florida typically. Public in Nevada typically Republican using all potentially three of these states swing democrat this year. I think it's trouble for the president is far because I think people say we talked about. One are just saying, you know, what I've had enough of this, obviously, people of color feel no don't think they're going to turn out that my prediction is my prediction is that African Americans are going to be very low and voting of in the midterms and the reason being they don't care that much about. And generally speaking, of course, the cavenaugh stop the migrant stuff that doesn't speak to them. It's much the economy does strong economies for healthcare. But also, but also healthcare a president here. Fenway is tied to. Really? By twenty points. The administration is still in a lawsuit trying to take away for remember you live when talking about I'm talking about people who are not engaged in immersion politics who are working trying to provide for their families. They may or may not vote depending on whether they're motivated or not they're not ideologues. They're not watching cable news or not reading the New York. Trying trying to put food on their table. They're trying to pay their prescription drug bills trying to pay the medical bills and their understand. Tasr bet you on the tax tax cut is a losing issue for for the the president. That's why the prints is up. The economy's winner for the Republicans economies a winner. They're not talking. Question bill. If the economy was a winner for the Republicans. Toppers right citizenship. And this made up nonsense about terrorists and a caravan staff Mexican border. It makes no sense. If you really thought economists is strong issue for him, you'd be running on it instead of creating all these distractions well to Jenner the Republican base because GOP was so concerned about the enthusiasm gap. President Trump chose to make illegal immigration a centerpiece because it worked for him two years ago. That's why they did it. Now the economy is strong. And I assume that the congress people running the house or making that a central issue, but I don't know. You know in my district here. It's more about Trump than anything else last question. But I do, and I know I'm going to be right that African American turnout in six days is going to be much lower than the Democrats think it is I and. Both polit a centerpiece, but it's really a distraction. The biggest threat we have from Trump made centerpiece country is is I. Piece is actually destroyed because the biggest threat we have from terrorist standpoint here is home grown, white nationalist terrorism. That is being Sato you in. Don't go out and talk. Still nuts lone nut so low and not come on. I mean, that's just propaganda nationalist or homegrown, white national radicalized three hundred in the country are there three hundred of them. Let's have a white day. Justice margin. Caravan you'll have two to three hundred committed fill they just committed. The most horrific antisemitic massacre in US history was one. Not because it's never happened before. It's never happened. All it's happened street states. Had you had. Kebir NAR on top. You had a guy shoot. A congressman. It is softball field. Was Bernie Sanders supporter. One guy. Nobody said it was a left wing movement to shoot Republican congress. President who was being white nationalist fears, and you have a pipe bomb. Now limited the Democratic Party. Do think independent of Byeon that you're crazy. They're not. I'm not Louis. There's no big nationalist movement in his country. It doesn't exist. It the FBI knocked out the clan. And that was the last white nationalist animal to knock them out of real. Donald Trump really wanted to make America great again. He would work to bring the parties together the people together not stoke fears camp saying who are trying straw you together. And he knows here's an element trying to destroy him. The same people that tried to destroy cavenaugh lively debate, we really appreciate it. But you're wrong. You back on the African American votes days. You're gonna see the. All right after Americans may be low, but Hispanic is near record turn in Las Vegas on. Now. You're now you're saying, I'm right? We'll say all right. Thanks very much.

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New CNN Poll Numbers: Arizona & Nevada

CNN's The Daily DC

09:41 min | 2 years ago

New CNN Poll Numbers: Arizona & Nevada

"Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Xeni offers thousands of Ford -able eyewear styles starting at just six ninety five. No ridiculous markups. No hassles. Just quality affordable. I wear delivered right to you visits. Any today at Xeni dot com slash CNN. Hey, everyone. I'm David challen. The CNN political director at this is the daily DC. Thanks so much for listening today on the podcast six days out, and some brand new CNN polls for you in two critical states today, we're taking a look at Arizona, and the Vata these are to the two best potential pickup opportunities for the Democrats in their battle to try to win a majority in the United States Senate, a very uphill battle at that. But these are the best to opportunities on the map for Democrats to take a Republican see and one of them Nevada has an incumbent Republican Senator you probably know this stat well by now, but dean Heller is the only Republican running for reelection this year to the United States Senate from a state that Hillary Clinton won in two thousand sixteen that fact, alone had most observers at the very beginning of the cycle. Saying he was the most endangered incumbent. I think that's changed. I think Heidi Heitkamp on the democratic side may be the most endangered incumbent on the map, but dean Heller does have a bit of a demographic issue that he has to contend with. But nonetheless, even though it's the state Hillary Clinton one, according to these numbers, it looks like Arizona the open seat there. Due to Jeff lakes retirement is a bit more of a ripe opportunity for Democrats than Nevada that being said they are both margin of error races, complete tossups. So don't overread or over interpret these results. We do have the Democrats slightly edging out the Republican in both of these races among likely voters. I'll start in Arizona where the new CNN poll conducted by SRS has mic Sally down to forty seven percent cinema. At fifty one percent fifty one for cinema. The democrat forty. Seven percent for mcsally four point edge among likely voters for cinema this again, well within the polls margin of error. Here's what's happened. Since the last time, we pulled Arizona cinemas lead. Over MC Sally narrowed from a seven point lead back in September two. Now, a four point lead. What I find particularly interesting here as well is the improvement of the president's approval rating in Arizona, forty seven percent of likely voters approve of the job. Trump is doing fifty one percent disapprove. Yes. He still upside down by four in fact, his approval ratings mirror precisely where we have the vote choice between cinema MC Sally fifty-one percent disapproving. Trump fifty-one percent. Support cinema. Forty seven percent approve of Trump forty seven percent. Support MC Sally. Here's what so key. And what is helped MC Sally narrow the gap with cinema is that the president's approval rating in Arezzo. Ona's since our last poll in September has improved by eight points. That's significant again the correlation between a president approval rating, and how his party does in midterm elections is a very very strong correlation. It is also true that there are not such a big group of undecided voters at this point. It's down to five percent in this poll who say that they haven't yet made up their minds when we asked back in September. It was seventeen percent. Now, we're six days away. Folks. Only five percent of owners haven't made up their mind. Where do we see some of the shift mic Sally made up some ground among women voters? She climbed from thirty five percent support among women in our September poll to forty one percent. So she improved six points among women while cinema held about even among independence cinema had a ten point advantage back in September. Now cinema has an eight point advantage. Fifty two to forty four both candidates did. Prove with independence since the September poll so Arizona again margin of error slight edge for cinema in Nevada. Jackie rosen. The democratic congresswoman has the slight numeric over dean Heller, but again, well within the margin of error forty eight percent for Rosen forty five percent for Heller very similar to what we had back in September. When we pulled. It was forty seven percent Rosen. Forty three percent Heller. The race has been remarkably stable. They're in Nevada still ten percent of likely voters in the state say they haven't made a firm decision on the race. That is double the percentage that we saw Arizona's of ten percent of likely voters in Nevada say that they have not yet made up their mind more voters for both Rosen and Heller to sway in these closing days. As I said, there was very little movement in most of the demographic groups Rosen is still winning a majority of women and Heller is winning a majority of men white voters with college. Grease. They are narrowly breaking toward Rosen and Hellers winning non college whites by very big margin. But non whites prefer Rosen by more than a two to one margin. Sixty four percent to twenty eight percent. And obviously there is a healthy percentage of non white vote in the state of Nevada here to Donald Trump's approval rating has improved just like an arid Sonal here in Nevada. They're about evenly split on the president forty nine percent approve forty eight percent disapprove doesn't really get much closer than that. That is welcome news for dean Heller. So the president is in more even and better standing in Nevada. You have an incumbent Senator dean Heller running for reelection, which has some potency unlike in Arizona, the president's a little more underwater and it's an open race. It seems to me that the better targeted opportunity here for Democrats is Arizona that may be their most likely pick up of the night and the Nevada race may be. The second most. But perhaps these two states are not quite unequal footing here in the issue comparison between the parties to me is the story of where we are right now in this election, as you know, President Trump has been touting birthright citizenship and the caravan that's still hundreds and hundreds of miles away from the US border drumming up that base support for his immigration policies. And we are seeing it have an impact on Republican voters just as the president intends for it to have. So when we ask about what is the most important issue facing the country. It's going to impact your vote in this election. It is a different universe. When you compare Republicans to Democrats forty two percent of Republicans in Nevada say immigration is the most important issue in their Senate vote. Twenty percent say it's the economy forty two percents immigration top issue in September. It was the other way around thirty four percent of Republicans chose the economy. Twenty-eight percent immigration. So if the great economic numbers were out there, and that was top of mind back in September. That certainly hasn't been with Donald Trump is campaigning on not what he's making headlines about. He's out there making headlines about immigration and now Republicans have moved immigration up to their top choice by a pretty big margin in Arizona fifty percent of Republicans. Call immigration their top concern versus nineteen percent who say the economy again, a wide margin there, but quite different than what we saw in September. Yes, immigration was still on top at thirty five percent. And the economy was at twenty five percent so immigration went from thirty five percent of Republicans calling the top issue to fifty percent half of Republicans calling it at the top issue comparing September two now that is clearly the Democrats intention, and we are seeing on the democratic side all about healthcare. We know that about half of democratic likely voters in. In this poll in both Arizona and Nevada. Forty nine percent in Nevada fifty percent in Arizona say that healthcare is they're deciding factor that is why you see every democrat, no matter what you ask them. They answer. A question about healthcare. No matter what you ask them about TV ads. They put up more TV heads about healthcare. It is the issue driving Democrats and President Trump is now making immigration the issue that is driving Republicans at least in these two states will continue to watch that number nationally to see if he's altered the issue landscape for Republicans across the country. This was about these states and about how people were thinking about it. In terms of their Senate, vote will see nationally and get a better sense. How partisans are thinking about those issues more in that house broad national landscape that doesn't for this edition of the daily DC. Thank you so much for listening hope you'll tune in again right here tomorrow, so many people around the world, depend on CNN's quality reporting. And now they have an incredible. The online store we've clothes gear and gadgets right now, you can get fifteen percent off your purchase. Just visit store dot CNN dot com. And when you're checking out into the code CNN podcast, just one word and get a fifteen percent discount. 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The Narrowing Path for Democrats to a Senate Majority

CNN's The Daily DC

09:45 min | 3 years ago

The Narrowing Path for Democrats to a Senate Majority

"They take one last ride around the world, the EMMY award winning Anthony, bourdain parts, unknown the final episodes chairs, Sundays at nine on CNN. Hey, everyone. I'm David Chaldean the CNN political director, and this is the daily DC. Thanks so much for listening today on the podcast, the narrowing democratic path to a Senate majority. It has always been a massive uphill battle for Democrats to win a majority of the United States Senate this cycle. This is one of the most advantageous Senate maps. I recall seeing in my career. So much of the battle is taking place on Republican turf where Democrats are holding seats that just would be unimaginable to have them hang onto if the political environment overall wasn't as advantageous Democrats as it appears. But even with that advantage in the overall political environment, a lot of these states are deep red that we've talked about, but even where Democrats. It's are playing offense. We're talking pretty red territory, so not just playing defense in North Dakota and Montana and West Virginia, and Missouri, and Indiana and in Florida. But we're, they're playing offense in places like Tennessee or Texas, which granted they're not really investing overall in Texas. It's more just the Aurore fundraising juggernaut phenomenon that is happening there on the ground and then in much more battleground, e type states, but one that Trump won Zona one that Clinton one, Nevada, the latest round of polling shows us. Let's start with Texas the longest of long shots of flipping a red Senate seat, blue Quinnipiac university out with a poll this morning, showing a nine point deficit for a Rourke versus cruise. The New York Times Santa poll showing something similar that Quinnipiac poll is identical to the gap that existed last month in September when they pulled and cruise was ahead by nine. This is. Looking increasingly like it is out of reach for Aurora. Now that being said, you know, money, crowd size, energy, all that liberal resistance energy that is poured in hopes and dreams into a rook. I don't want to discount that entirely that there could be some big wave that that takes Rourke to the United States Senate, but it just looks like that is not really in the cards by the polling. What we're beginning to see in this post cavenaugh environment since the testimony of cavenaugh Blasi Ford, two weeks ago now and the extra one week FBI investigation and the ultimate confirmation of cavenaugh up until this week on Monday night, the president apologizing to cavenaugh on behalf of the nation and making this a political issue that he thinks works for him. You know, among his Republican troops, we are seeing some polling coming out of these states where the Democrats are trying to make an offensive charge and flip states that are currently. Held by Republicans that do not have great times for the Democrats, dean Heller in Nevada Republican, incumbent Senator the only one in a state, Hillary Clinton one that's up for reelection this year is obviously in a margin of error race. We pulled there about a month ago. It CNN and we had Rosen up four this week NBC marriage to showing Heller up to the New York Times. CNN upshot poll showing Heller up to so Heller in the latest round of polling comes out on top. It's still clearly a margin of error, race and a real toss up. But the fact that Heller is even in the game and edging ahead in this most recent polling. You know, this is no certain pickup for the Democrats. Many people thought it was going to be the Democrats best opportunity for a pickup and eight is no certain pickup for them in Arizona. Most of the polling post Labor Day has been showing cinema with an edge over MC Sally, we will see if that holds as we await more reportable polling out of Arizona that meets CNN standards. But we'll see if we're seeing any of this post cavenaugh affect taking place there. We're certainly seeing it in Tennessee where again, we have seen some polling come out of Tennessee in the post cavenaugh environment that shows Marsha Blackburn edging ahead of Phil Bredesen's prior to the whole cavenaugh moment. Bredesen's had been edging ahead of Blackburn in most polls. All that is to say is if indeed the Democrats are going to lose North Dakota with Heidi Heitkamp, which those poll numbers of look pretty grim for her. Then they're looking for three pickup opportunities. Assuming that's the only one of the seats that they currently hold that they lose. Then they're looking for three pickup opportunities. If you're writing Texas off the map, which seems like most people can do with some confidence at the moment you're looking at Tennessee Zona in Nevada, and I just said that Tennessee and Nevada. Had polls post Cavanaugh, the show the Republican, whether the incumbent dean Heller or seeking to succeed Bob corker Marsh, Blackburn edging ahead of the democrat, if there's no way for the Democrats to win control of the United States Senate, if all they do is pick up the Arizona Senate seat, picking up one is not enough. They need a net gain of two. And that is to say nothing of the battle that Claire mccaskill finds herself in Missouri defending her seat, a margin of error, true tossup, race or Joe Donnelly in Indiana. These are some pretty red states where the democratic incumbent is significantly embattled and then you've got the politics of hurricane Michael in Florida, where Bill Nelson in the Senate race there, the democratic incumbent had been edging ahead of Rick Scott, the governor in several polls. But you had the post cavenaugh moment that we're seeing play out in some other states that may be energizing. The Republican base. Florida. We await more polling there and you just have Rick Scott, having a huge opportunity here to show management skills on being on top of this hurricane sort of plays into his wheelhouse after eight years as governor where he is had to manage his state through other hurricanes. He sort of seems in control and command. Now, there are many more layers to this hurricane story to play out, and we'll see what the extent of the damage is. And if that harms Rick, Scott's political standing at all. But at the moment he's dominating the airwaves in a very significant way doing his day job as he should as any governor would. I'm not suggesting there's anything untoward about it it it's he's doing his day job in his day. Job is allowing him to be in front of Floridians hour after hour in a commanding presence, managing crisis. So that may not bode well politically for Bill Nelson. Again, we'll have to await around a Florida polls. Once people in the panhandle star. Getting back on their feet and begin the rebuilding process after all the devastation that Michael caused. Now, at the start of this cycle, it looked like the idea that we would even be talking about a control of the United States Senate battle that that the Senate was in playing just seemed absurd on the facts on its face of where things stood. And then as the cycle progressed and the democratic energy enthusiasm started getting very heated. We got into the summer and post Labor Day and it looked like wait, it's still a long shot, but the Senate may be in play here. There is a way for Democrats to kinda shoot the moon, maybe get the majority. And now in the post Cavanaugh world, the polling that we're seeing coming out this week suggests wait, no, perhaps it is such a long shot that it's not even truly in play now. I don't think we can take it off the table entirely in huge wave years. We've seen these things happen where one chamber falls on the other collapses with it kind of thing. Now, again, the terrain and the battleground map of the Senate this year makes that extremely unlikely or at least there's so much more fortification for Republicans to withstand that kind of big national wave simply because of the geography of where the battle is. So I wouldn't rule it out entirely. I wouldn't just ignore the Senate and stop paying attention to it. But these polls this week, I think we have to watch over the next couple of weeks if indeed that supercharge democratic enthusiasm is really taking off everywhere else. Perhaps we'll start to see Tennessee Nevada, Arizona really consistently looked like the Democrats may flip three seats or so. But at this moment in time, this snapshot just, you know, three and a half weeks before election day suggests that the idea of the Democrats can win. The Senate majority is the longest of long shots at the moment that does it for this edition of the daily. Thank you so much for listening. Hope you'll tune in again right here tomorrow. So many people around the world depend on CNN's quality reporting, and now they have an incredible online store with clothes gear and gadgets. Right now you can get fifteen percent off your purchase, just visit store dot, CNN dot com. And when you're checking out into the code CNN podcast, just one word and get a fifteen percent discount. 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October 2, 2018

POLITICO Playbook Audio Briefing

03:25 min | 3 years ago

October 2, 2018

"Good Tuesday morning. I'm Jay Sherman and welcome to your political playbook audio briefing sponsored by pharma and I'm Anna Palmer, the Republican blob is what we're talking about this morning with thirty five days left until election day House. Republicans have found a bizarre phenomenon around the country. President. Donald Trump is above water and several houses tricks in which the GOP is struggling. Why top figures in the party tell us this most of their members are stuck in the mushy middle. When it comes to their political identity, they don't totally aligned with the president. So they're crosswise with the base, but they're not far enough from the president to pull an undecided middle of the road voters I and playbook Senate majority pack and majority forward are dropping new ads in Missouri, Florida, Nevada, Arizona, and Tennessee port of a seven figure adviser vision in those states. SMP the superpac is the thirty second spot knocking Josh Hawley in Missouri for his health care position. Senator dean Heller in Nevada for voting to repeal ObamaCare and Rick Scott for. Education cuts into Spanish language ad in Florida. This is part of a five point. Five million dollar by majority forward has new spots knocking Martha mcsally. Marsha Blackburn for their healthcare votes. This is part of a two point, two million dollar by. Here's the latest on Brad Kavanagh. The New York Times is a story up on how the White House is expanding the inquiry, telling the FBI to interview anyone necessary as long as it is finished. By the end of the week, the times also has a story up that details how Cavanaugh was questioned by police after a bar fight in one thousand nine hundred five. An NBC news is reporting on text messages showing how Cavanaugh was personally involved in trying to get others to refute claims by Deborah Ramirez, John Bresnahan in Everett have the scoop on Mitch McConnell's volving strategy. They report the McConnell is now entirely focused on Republican senators. Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski and Jeff flake. The Kentucky Republican is no longer valid to plow right through and confirmed capita instead trying to appeal to the three. He's still plans to force a critical procedural vote as early. His Friday, our colleague, Stephanie Murray was on the ground in Manchester New Hampshire where Senator Jeff flake so that if a nominee lies to the judiciary committee, that would be disqualifying. The Washington Post has a thirty thousand foot look at the male fury and fear that is rising among Republicans in defense of Cava reporting that the male resentment is now expected to play a defining role in the midterm election and the Harvard crimson is reporting that cabinet will not return to teach at Harvard Law School on the twenty eighteen front. Alex Eisenstaedt is reporting on beta will Rourke apologizing for demeaning comments. He made about women when he wrote a review in nineteen Ninety-one about a Broadway show. He criticized actresses in the show writing that they're only qualifications seem to be there phenomenally large breasts and tight buttocks. Dern team Nelson is reporting. The Paul Manafort is meeting with Bob Muller team of prosecutors. And Mike Pence is headlining a fundraiser for for Julia congresswoman, Barbara Comstock Thursday at the Willard intercontinental here. Here's what's on tap. For Trump's Tuesday, the president will leave the White House at twelve forty for trip to Philadelphia, to speak to the national electrical contractors association convention his speeches at two thirty. He'll then fly to Memphis, three, forty five for a campaign appearance in south haven, Mississippi. He will hold around table and then a political rallied six forty central time he scheduled till and back at Andrews at eleven pm and return to the White House at eleven twenty subscribe to playbook at politico dot com. Slash playbook.

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Why Democrats Had a Better Election Than You Might Think

The Point with Chris Cillizza

05:07 min | 2 years ago

Why Democrats Had a Better Election Than You Might Think

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I'm Chris cillizza cutting through the political spin to bring you the news you need to know. We did it we made it to the end of election week. I'm not gonna lie a little tired. But I wanted to make a point here. Which is I think that the conventional wisdom on this election is a little off the conventional wisdom which started to set in around eleven pm Tuesday night. Was that Democrats underperformed bit that this democratic wave did not in fact appear, but I wanted to suggest it over the last two days the information we've got about the elections actually makes it seem as though Democrats did quite well, I'd say good to great. If not great me go through a few things that have happened since around eleven pm on Tuesday night. John tester who was losing the Montana. Senate race at that point came back and won in Nevada. Jackie Rosen who was losing to incumbent. Republican Senator dean Heller Nevada came back in one in Arizona Christon. Cinema who was behind Martha mcsally in that open seat race is now a head of MC Sally in Florida. The Senate race that Rick Scott looked to have won the Republican is now so close about sixteen thousand votes is Scott's lead over Senator Bill Nelson that it's going to almost certainly go to a manual statewide recount. So we'll see on that one. Then let's move over to the governor's. Yes. In florida. No question. Andrew gillum is behind to Santa's. But again, the margin is close enough that we think we're looking at an automatic machine recount. So that one still a little bit up in the air. Democrats won in Illinois. They beat an incumbent governor in Illinois, Republican they won in Wisconsin. They won in Michigan. They won got a governor reelected in Pennsylvania. Now, they didn't win Ohio, and they may not win Florida. But not a terrible night. Then there's this run eleven PM on Tuesday night. Democrats had taken back the house, but they had one twenty six house seats. Well. Five more banana that pile and there's now thirty or thirty one that are four sure democratic cans with the expectation that of the ten racists still aren't called Democrats are ahead and likely to win at least half of them, and maybe more. So you're talking about a democratic gain of somewhere between thirty four and forty seats. Again, nothing really to sneeze at they've also one almost three hundred and seventy five state legislative seats, and they flipped control of seven legislative chambers across the country. So take it all add it all up wasn't a perfect night for Democrats. No. But I would argue that a pickup of thirty five plus seats in the house, plus the changes, they made it the state legislative level. Plus the governor's they won. Without question is a very good thing for the party when it comes to the Senate. Remember Democrats were never expected to go anywhere near success in this election, twenty six seats, they were defending ten of those in states at Donald Trump carried five of those that he carried by double digits and the three senators who lost on the democratic side. Mccaskill in Missouri. Joe Donnelly in Indian and Heidi Heitkamp in North Dakota all represented states that Donald Trump at one by double digits two years earlier. So we shouldn't be surprised by that. I don't think it indicates much about the national democratic wave. So remember this conventional wisdom it can congealed quickly. But it doesn't always congealed properly. That's news. You need to know for this November the ninth for much more. Please check out my daily Email newsletter. You can do that by signing up for it at CNN dot com slash the point. If you do that, I'll get it to you Monday through Fridays by seven thirty pm eastern time in your Email inbox costs a subscribe to this audio breathing. 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Partly Sunny with an Increase in Weighted Average Partisanship

The Forecast with Harry Enten

38:43 min | 3 years ago

Partly Sunny with an Increase in Weighted Average Partisanship

"By the new book, how the internet happened from Netscape to the iphone, the first single volume history of the technology industry since the dawn of the World Wide Web. It's about Mark Zuckerberg and Steve Jobs. It's about why Facebook beat my space. It's about how Napster net flicks revolutionized media. It's about whatever happened to AOL and it's about how the internet happened to us by the book how the internet happened from Netscape to the iphone by Brian McCullough. Hello, everyone. I'm Ryan. I'm Rebecca Berg, and I'm Harry Anthon. And this is the forecast with Harry entered and what come to the podcast. Everybody hope you're riding the pod wave urea for episode, three, very excited to be back as always, we're so glad you decide to join us, Rebecca. Welcome back from Iowa. Thank you. I thought about staying, but then I had to come back for the pot and just for the podcast road, the pod wave, all the way back from Iowa. I was in the hurricanes on last week and I've made it back safe and sound. I'm very glad you made a backstay. That's tough reporting. I reporting politics. We just sit in a ballroom and listen to someone gives speech Ryan, you're actually out there in the you were out there in that wonderful, wonderful hotel that kept its powers. He was able to dine on steak between us. You know, John Berman really cannot make this out to be more than it was. I was in Tallahassee which fortunately, there was a lot of damage in Tallahassee, but only seventy mile an hour winds and it's Harry points out. We never lost power in our hotel, which many of our colleagues did not have that luxury so, but I was also reporting politics. That was the reason I went to Florida was to to see how these candidates were responding to the hurricane, and we're gonna talk about the Florida Senate race a little bit later, which is at the center of all of this, and we can talk about that then. But first we want to talk about something very important and that's our music because you all have very strong opinions about that. You might have noticed. We are going with the same theme music that we used from last week, and that's because of you. We've mission to you the voters. The listeners of this podcast we had Ford forty, two votes on Twitter, fifty, nine percent of you prefer this. The music over the music we use in our debut episode. I mean. Harry, you're the an analyst here. I think fifty nine percent is that's a landslide, but four hundred and forty to come on. Senate margin of error. It always it always comes down to turnout though. Right? And so if you don't vote, then you can't complain about it. I should have put some ads on Twitter on Facebook to. I wanted to tilt that Paul, but the fact is we had lowered turnout than an off year election for mayor in San Antonio. And now it's just very disappointing. Well, it is official now. So the the music from week to is going to be our music going for. If someone would like to write us an original score for next season, we'll consider it hundred percent open to that. We'll take all suggestions, aren't we do have a lot of ground to cover today. We're going to look at these big Senate races in Nevada and Florida. We mentioned a spend a little bit of time talking about that big fundraising haul by the electoral, Jesus Beto Aurora in Texas. Harry's got some insight onto that. And then we're going to switch to some house races in Minnesota capital off with the governor's race. That's getting a ton of attention to because of allegations of voter suppression. But before we get to all of that, this is why you've tuned in, let's get to the forecast Harry, what is the latest? All right. So in the house pretty much no chains since last week when we first, this Democrats are favored to take it back their favorite to win two hundred and twenty nine seats that's obviously eleven more than is needed. To gain the majority, however, that there is a wide margin of error with that. So they could end up with his lowest, two hundred. And five, which means they would not capture the majority, but it would still be a seat game for them or they could capture all the way up to two hundred sixty three seats obviously be massive, blah wave of sixty seats plus in the Senate, someone of a different story, right? We have a different map that's going on there with ten democratic incumbents running in states that Donald Trump won. Best estimate at this point is that Republicans with fifty two seats. However, with a lot of close races, the margin verse wide enough that Republicans could only end up with forty seven seats, which of course it give Democrats fifty three seats, majority or Republicans could blow everything out of the water. If they went all the close seats and they could end up as high as fifty seven seats. So again, if you were to basically boil it down at be Democrats favored in the House. Republicans are favored in the Senate, but still with three weeks to go a lot to be decided. It's pretty amazing though. If you consider how we were looking at the year ahead, you know your ago today, it looks like Republicans were in such bad shape, and yet they actually have a chance to keep their majorities in both chambers. That to me is the standing in look. The Senate, there are very much aided by a good map, right? And more than that, what we've seen in a number of Senate races, red states like Texas, which will get to North Dakota and Tennessee is Republican, traditional Republican voters seem to be coming home to the Republican candidates in those states and without the Democrats winning at least one of those that I just mentioned, it's just a very, very difficult map for them. Let's talk about some of those races of the first one. We're gonna talk about Nevada, and I think Rebecca, this is exactly what you're talking about. When I think about the Republican chances improving. I remember in the heat of the healthcare debate with dean Heller was being chased around Capitol Hill. There was this thought that this was a seat that was never going to be able to be held by Republicans because of the dynamics Heller a moderate in a very swinging estate. It's a purple state for sure. Hillary Clinton won the state in two thousand sixteen Jackie Rosen's at pretty good challenger. She's a first term congresswoman, a former synagogue president. Let's. That that you said my match, say I, I was gonna let you take that bait, but she's struggling a bit in terms of favorability. One poll showing her with thirty six percent favorables two forty-three unfavorable, but we'll let Harry talk about the analysis of this in a second, but Rebecca, isn't this what you're talking about? I mean, I initially thought if you'd asked me about this race a year ago, I would say there's no way dealers winning reelection in. That's what's so many Republicans have been telling me for months that they felt Heller was the weakest among Republicans. Obviously the most endangered Republican incumbent, but really struggling that this was going to be a really tough state for them to hold onto. And part of the reason is, because as you mentioned, healthcare is such a big issue in this election and Heller was just all over the place and he had on top of, you know, his changing positions on healthcare. He had video of him with the president is giving him a hard time or thinking him for support and whatnot. And so all of that couple together was going. Make this a really tough race for Heller, and yet somehow he survive ING numbers tone. Well, right now our forecast actually has Heller favored. We haven't computed the latest one with the new polls that have been coming in. But right now Heller has has a small lead, I'd say around percentage point too close to call, but I think that this is a more interesting discussion about the state, Nevada, right? Obviously, it's a state that Hillary Clinton won by a little bit more than two percents points to state Barack Obama won twice Harry Reid's obviously from their would say, okay, you know, maybe democratic lean, especially a good democratic year, but keep these things in my number one. If we look at what I call the weighted average partisanship of the state which takes new account presidential election statewide elections, so on so forth. What's that called? What's that called? The weighted average partisanship waited ever department. Into a hashtag, is that too many? I don't know. Acronym for it. You just set it like as if we all sit around talking while I always, I'm always thinking about average weighted average partisanship. Is I mean to interrupt. It's zero, which means essentially that it's right in the middle there. It's neither flank all of us this report. This room has no way to partisanship that. Yes, of course. I'm sure that will go over where very well with very many people. So you have that going on. The other thing that point out is that what we're seeing is college educated voters across this country, abandoned the Republican party and going towards the Democratic Party, but only twenty three percent of adults in the state of Nevada have a college degree that's well below the national average. So this would probably not be a state where you'd expect democratic tied to sort of crest and go over the top. And then the final thing that will point out is although only sixty two percent of the population is not Hispanic white, which is below the national average. It's actually Hispanics that make up the majority of the non white population state and Hispanic simply put don't turn out as high numbers, midterm elections, for instance, in the last midterm, according to the government, Hispanics made up nineteen percent of all citizens age, adults, Nevada. But they only made up fourteen percent of voters. So if you're not gonna get that Hispanic turnout, which is what we're not. A lot of the polls, then it's not too big of a surprise that dean Heller has a real shot holding on here. Is there any way Democrats can take back the Senate? If dean Heller wins an make that much more difficult for them? I mean, there are maps where you know you can put it together. You know, with tough, it gets tough because it means you have to win an and then you'd have to win either. You know, hold on to North Dakota and then maybe flip Tennessee, your Texas. You really do need Nevada. If you're going to flip the Senate, that's why this racist important. One of the reasons we talked about it. I now the other Senate race we're going to talk about is in Florida where I've just been back from where spending almost all of my free time much my wife's chagrin and that's where democratic Senator Bill Nelson, the incumbent taking on the state's governor Republican, Rick Scott. And you know if we'd had this conversation a week ago, I think it would have been a lot different than what it is and I speak from experience having just been there. I really do think this hurricane has flipped this race upside down for many reasons. The biggest reason being. That the candidates have left the campaign trail. Initially, we expected them to be from Miami to Jacksonville to Tampa. Now they're spending all of their time in the panhandle, Rick Scott, put out a statement on Monday saying that he may not campaign again before the November six, Alexis remarkable, incredible and granted does that mean that he'll go off of television probably still running. They're still running ads. Going to and Florida is the state where that matters more. You know, it's a big that you don't have as much on the grade campaigning, but still remarkable we should. That's a great point, Rebecca. We should clarify what it means to go off the campaign trail. It just means that the principles themselves Bill Nelson, Rick Scott, they are physically not campaigning. They're spending other time surveying the damage going around the state, trying to make sure that they secure the proper federal resources. They still have. Sarah gets Scott said that his wife is going to campaign on his behalf. They'll have other prominent Republicans. Nelson will will likely do the same. But I wonder for for someone like a Rick Scott, who's not a natural campaigner he doesn't whose charisma by any stretch of the imagination, but he does excel at this particular aspect of the job of being governor being kind of the compassionate person in chief, making sure that all the the necessary resources are funneled into the same place. I mean, Harry, I wonder, is this something that you can calculate for? Can you add a. Massive dynamic change into the race into your forecast. How do you calculate for something like this? We're gonna have to wait for the polling to come out post hurricane to truly understand what's going on. I will say that his hurricane reactions in the past helped to drive up his approval ratings to its highest levels pretty much ever right when he won reelection in two thousand fourteen, he didn't win it because he was massively popular. He wanted because he was able to drag his democratic opponent Charlie Crist into the mud with him, right. It was only in the past year or so that his favorable ratings following hurricane last year, was he able to climb up at this point as you were pointing out? It's a close race to forecast has now some favored by too, but we don't know exactly what might occur poster a k. and more than that, I think that there's a lot of people who think Florida's like the ultimate swing state. Right? But if you were to look at our favorite weighted average partisan, it's actually slightly Republican plus four. So it's more to the right then Nevada, is it leans a little bit right? If in neutral environment and Scott is a better than average Republican candidate. Which he may be seen in the eyes of voters. Post hurricane, then even have a real shot of winning. Has Nelson ever been over fifty percent in terms of favorability? You mean Scott are Scott, I'm sorry. Yes. In some, especially in some of the post hurricane has been. But right now, if nothing else has net favorable rating, the favorite minus I'm favorable has tended to be positive. Right? That really captures why this is important, right? Because this gives Scott the chance to really show that he is in control to show an uncontroversial positive side of when you're the executive leading the state through a crisis, you tend to have a boost favorability. And I think when you look at the state of Florida's a massive state and this is a relatively small section of that state. But if you're in Miami, you know what hurricane is like. So maybe you're not picking up debris or you know, dealing with the effect of hurricane, but you know, it could be the next time around and you wanna see somebody that can handle that. So. I just think that the dynamics of that are going to be pretty incredible into CNN. I'll play out over the next three weeks. I mean, they've already postponed one debate on the Senate side. Will that debate ever happen? All those things are going to play in here in the in the closing days of this campaign and what was already a tight race? What comes to mind for me is remember Governor, Chris, Christie with hurricane sandy, writing his fleece constantly arm-in-arm with President Obama. Yeah. I mean, there's no doubt about it that politicians can use natural disaster to their advantage. Pointing out that I think the one big unknown in Florida in that race is if the governor's race, right. Andrew, gillum. Right spoken about him before African American candidate. Can he drive a black turnout? Gillam has gotten a lot of press because he was the mayor mayor Tallahassee right near where the circes also basically the same thing, Scott is exactly right. And if African Americans who weren't gonna turn out previously do in fact turn out it is very, very likely that the vast majority of them will cast a vote in the Senate race for Bill Nelson dynamic to that too. Is that Guillem may be able to come back on the campaign trail sooner than Scott, because the recovering Tallahassee will be at a speedier rate than the rest of the state. So he might be able to go to those population centers where the African American vote is perhaps visit by Barack Obama to also help turn that vote out. All right. Let's go to the next one. We gotta talk about the electoral Jesus on Beto. So I just so struck by this number. I think everybody was. He raised thirty eight point one million dollars in just three months. It's the most. The money that's was ever raised by US Senate campaign. The question is right for just a quarter, right? The question is, does it matter. I hear you. I mean you use fundraising as part of your quotient, right? I mean this part of, but it is this an accurate. I guess this is the question I have for you in terms of how you put your forecast together. I'm in this money isn't coming from Texas, right? It actually is. Yeah, but but you know, look, it's it is part of the model. I mean, it certainly tilts the fundamentals in his favorable, although Texas is so read, I know you know, Hillary Clinton did well. They are for a democrat still lost by nine percentage points, but it's weighted average. Partisanship is plus fourteen Republican, right? It's a very, very red state. So the fundraising probably gives a roof a little bit of edge and the fundamentals, but it's not as big as you might expect and say, you know, it was happening in Nevada, which is much more of a swing state than, you know, you'd say the fundamentals vastly favor, Jackie Rosen here, perhaps only slightly better all work and the polls continue to show that Ted Cruz is the favorite in this race forecast has him up by four. So yes, this money matters. Yes, we take into account even. So we still think that tetris is the favorite. It's important to consider this level of this magnitude of fundraising as a reflection of the enthusiasm that there is for Beto and in this race, and that is what has really. Been remarkable because typically talking about a Senate race in Texas, we would never even be discussing a democrat, having chance. And so the fact that he is as close as he is that he has made this into something of a race again, reflects that enthusi- sent misplaced that he can't win. But I, I don't know if I've told you the story when I was in Florida and the valet at a hotel. We were at a found out that we were political reporters that we were here covering the Senate race in Florida. And his question to me was is better gonna win. This is can't cast a ballot in Texas rate was probably a constituent in one of the most important Senate races in the country. I mean, are they wasting resources in Texas where they could be used in Nevada or in Florida or in some of these things? I mean, your average voter and your average small dollar donor is not thinking about politics in terms of how can I maximize efficiency. They're thinking about this the DS's thinking about this. Exactly. They're thinking about who are the candidates who inspire me who speak to me. The criticism of Bill Nelson has often been that he's a little boring. He's not enchanting for voters, someone like that. Oh. Well, that's true. There is. No, that probably can't. Can't say he's been disease, but still he's capturing the imagine the argument there being it's not as if the dollar's gonna be spent somewhere else. It just wouldn't be spent. All right, right. The thing that I just say is that Democrats nationwide. There's been a lot of fundraising for a lot of democratic candidates. It's not like we have democratic candidates in most parts of the country, especially in the major races that are yearning just don't have simply the cat. Pretty pretty much all do. And I'll also say that it could be the case that baiter Rourke helps out down ballot candidates. You know, in Texas, seven, Texas thirty to Houston, Dallas suburbs, Texas. Twenty-three Wilford with Latino turnout. So if work and get those voters out, maybe can flip some of these red districts blue on the house level and that it self might very well give Democrats, majority of making all might be saving some seats there in his capacity as electoral Jesus. You know, Jesus cared about the little people not himself. One more point on quickly is that it will be interesting to see. Does Beto spend all of this money? Does he hold onto it for, you know, another race in the what else could he is there any other. Ted Cruz and John Cornyn right now they're trying to make the point that they think he'll run for president. That's the Republican side. We'll see. We'll see speaking of twenty twenty after the break. 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Definitive. He's running until you twenty or not. He says he's going to make decision midterms, right? I mean, we can all sort of connect the dots here though. He's in Iowa. This was his first trip of the cycle since twenty sixteen when he was a surrogate there for Hillary Clinton and he was doing all the things that you would expect to would be could be presidential candidate to do. He was speaking with, I would donors and activists. He headlined a big fundraiser for them into Moines, and then he hit the campaign trail for state candidates federal candidates. And we joined him on an RV with congressional candidate JD Scholten who's running against congressman Steve king. I'm sure all of our listeners familiar with Steve king and one thing that Cory Booker did tell me that I thought was really interesting. Was he sort of laid out his mission statement potentially if he were to run in twenty twenty. There's been this debate going on in the democratic party's sort of a stylistic to be will Democrats want a candidate who is more of a streetfighter. Go up against Donald Trump. That's been what we've been hearing from Michael naughty for example, or will they want someone who has more of a unifying message and Cory Booker? That's the strategy he's taking. So I'll play a little bit of our interview for you guys here. Upset about what's going on in real people in America working being treated. But the way you counter that is not fi body tactics of those people, you don't wanna see. So you know, this president might try to divide people. I think Democrats trying to unite people and it's too much tribalism. His country survey people that before they even wanna listen to what you have to say, they'll can not like just because of the party or part of that's outrageous that's who are. That's not our. So I don't know if it's a winning political message or not, but I will always taught you trying to unify this country. So really interesting where Booker saying that he believes Democrats are going to want someone like him, who will bring people together, who will not use the tactics that we got a fighter from Donald Trump, a lover, not a fighter. And to that end President Trump, as you guys know, has been going after Cory Booker. He's on the list with Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden as a potential rival for Donald Trump and Booker wouldn't even respond to that, or he tried not to. He said, I'm not going to let the president make me hate him. I'm not going to get into with him. I'd be said about that. I'd be about that. If you go back. I mean, the only electoral comparison we have with President Trump is the primaries of two thousand sixteen, and it was pretty clear that anybody that tried to engage on his level. I mean, I think back to Marco Rubio when he want on rant about the size of President Trump's hands and we saw that ended anymore. I mean. I mean. It was very. You said about that strategy hasn't worked in the past to try and and meet him toe to toe in the mud. So maybe trying to rise above could work. Right. But of course, one of the big challenges for Booker very quickly is we have our new CNN pulling out for the twenty Twenty-eight possible presidential field on the democratic side. He's hovering around five percent in that polling. So he's really going to need to work on his name. I d I getting known in the party. Talk about twenty twenty. This podcast goes on into the future, but we really need to focus on twenty eighteen and we're gonna talk about a couple of house races in Minnesota. Beautiful, Minnesota, that's state Hillary Clinton one, correct. That is correct, right. So this is this is an interesting state for the most part and speaking of voter turnout. It's a state where everyone vote right, exactly. Invasion there. So we're gonna talk about Minnesota three, and that's where we got the incumbent Republican, Eric pulse in taking on the democrat teen Phillips. This is a pretty well educated district quite a bit of money. There did vote for George W Bush twice, but then flipped to Obama twice did vote for Clinton in two thousand sixteen a pulse. Never really had a tough battle Phillips, wealthy businessman first time candidate. He's all about campaign finance reform. Talk about healthcare, which is what a lot of these candidates, especially at the house level on the democratic Senator talking about, tell us what should we know about this race? Harry number one, that Paulson isn't a lot of trouble in the forecast and we haven't forecast to lose by seven percentage points, public polls, pretty much all pulse and trailing. And if there was a race that to me, sort of typified the map of where Democrats want to win in order to take back control of the house. It would be a district like this. You mentioned very well educated forty-eight percent of dolts. Have college should be that's about eighteen points above the national average. It's in the. Suburbs kind of spoken about that Democrats path is back in the suburbs, and here's the other thing. Again, you pointed out the weighted average porous and ship plus one democrat, and it has a Republican incumbent running in district. Not only was it just that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama one, but Clinton expanded on Obama's margin. It's a district that's moving fast to the left. If Erik Paulsen wins on election night, it would be very surprising to me. And more than that, I would be very worried if I were democrat, this is an important bellwether district essence because it is the exact place where Democrats need to win the fight for the suburbs has been so interesting and I will love to see. I don't know if you've numbers on this Harry, but I would love to see the gender divide in this district because that's really been the big story in so many of these suburban districts are white college educated men's sticking with the Republicans and the president and women turning against them in much larger numbers. So times have a very good Paul from this district. That overall had Phillips ahead by nearly ten points, fifty one percent to forty-two percent. And if you break it down and you look at the cross tabs, which you see is both a large gender divide as well as large educational divide. So women voters going for Phillips by fifty eight percent to thirty three percent margin male voters going actually for Paul sim- by fifty two percent to forty three percent margin. And then if you break it down among whites with a college degree and whites without a college degree, whites with college degree are favoring Phillips by fifty, four percent to forty percent margin while whites without a college degree favoring Paulsen by forty eight percent to forty five percent margin. And so again, we're seeing in this district what we're seeing nationally, which is a large gender, divide a large educational divide, but will women making up the vast majority of voters in the district and with white college educated voters making up the majority of voters in this district. It is very, very good news for Democrats. At least here this gender divide is so fascinating to me. There's going to be so many homes. In this Minneapolis suburb where the husband's voting one way and the wife is voting. The other. We saw the same thing during the twenty sixteen presidential election to an extent, but it seems like even more pronounced in this what we need is more fights and more households. It's not like keeping a couple together is difficult enough. We need politics. All right. So let's go to Minnesota's eighth district. This is a really interesting race. This might be one of the few Republican pickup opportunities across the country. You've got the Republican, Pete Stober going up against the democrat, Joe rent down of it. Rick Nolan is the incumbent there. He's retiring at the end of his term, the democrat Redonda edge of former state Representative first elected to the Minnesota house at the age of twenty six. And he was a Nolan's campaign manager stopper I think is the interesting character. And all of this former professional hockey player Saint Louis county, a commission retired police officer. Also, Pete stoppers brother is the head coach of the gold medal winning women's Olympic hockey team. And I think they won the gold medal right around the time that he won the primary, those two things. That's a pretty good night for others, especially Minnesota. But this district is interesting this very populous type district union heavy, mostly white, working class district been reliably. Critic for some time, but there's no battleground district that swung more from Barack Obama to Donald Trump than this one. If the Republicans are going to pick up a seat area, it's gotta be this one right yet. See this Minnesota one right where Tim wall says, retiring running for governor. Look, you said it exactly, right. Very much working class. If you compare the third to the eighth right that third had forty, eight percent college educated adults. This only twenty three percent of adults in the district have at least a college degree. Its ancestral democrat, Jim Oberstar course Representative strict from seventy five to two thousand eleven, but the weighted average partisanship plus four GOP and Clinton lost it by sixteen percentage points and the latest New York Times. Paul does have stopper ahead by sixteen now that's an outlier compared to the earlier numbers, but it's a very clear that if there's going to be a district that flips in the House Republicans side, this wonder, Minnesota one. This point. This one looks like the more likely opportunity. Minnesota on election night is going to be one of the states personally. That I'm watching really closely. You have these four key districts to in the suburbs to in the more working class area, this aid, including this one. And if you have an even split on election night where it's too, for Republicans and two Democrats, it could be a really long night before we know how things are going to shake out throughout the rest of the country just because these are so predictive of what we're looking at elsewhere integrations, interesting characters as well. We're gonna talk about a governor's race because why not spice things up a little bit. That's how political nerds like spice things up. We talk about governors. We've nothing against federalism. I love. Harry's been dying to sing all day. So I hope that makes to the end of the pretty impressive. The race we're talking about is the governor's race in Georgia who knew Georgia was going to be a competitive race, but it absolutely has become one. The secretary of state there. The Republican Brian Kemp running against a historic candidate and Stacey Abrams. She'd be the first black woman in the country to be elected governor of any state, much less estate in the south Republicans have really had control of the governors mansion in Georgia. Since two thousand three, a governor Nathan deal hit is going to term limit out Associated Press reporting on this controversy in Georgia right now that Kemp is right in the center of they've put a hold on fifty, three thousand voter registration applications and nearly seven in ten of them belong to African Americans, and that led Abrahams campaign to call on campus. She's running against to resign. Now Kemp his campaign maintains that they've done nothing wrong names. It would have been tied up in the system and. So this is what they had to do. What I found interesting about this conversation is and I think we've probably reached the point of all these campaigns wore now speaking directly to the bases is watching Kemp on FOX this morning, give his side of this. And then if you watch the interviews, Abrahams has given an her side of this, they both probably play really well to their specific basis. If you're Kemp you're saying they're illegal people that are attempting to vote. I'm trying to keep those people from not casting a ballot where Abrahams is saying that there's a whole class of people minorities in particular that are being disenfranchised by the guy specifically who wants to be the next governor of the state. I mean, have we reached that point? Harry where this is all about the base. I mean it's must be something along the Georgia Florida border in both of those states. They primary electorates chose the base candidates, right? Abrahams and Cam in Georgia, we have Gillam into Santa's in Florida, and it's going to be interesting Abrahams whole strategy here is to turn out. College educated voters and minority voters in Glen and the suburbs of Atlanta, and those are parts of the state that have trended heavily towards the Democrats over the last few years back look, Cobb County, right Clinton was the first democratic candidate presidential candidate carry Cobb County since Carter in nineteen seventy six. So this is going to be an interesting strategy from her versus from Brian Kim, who he obviously wants a turn out whites without a college degree. And a lot of the outlying areas, for instance, look at Murray county in the northwest part of the state Clinton only fourteen percent of the vote there, which was the lowest for a democratic presidential candidate since at least nine thousand nine hundred and twelve. By don't forget it. When we're talking about how we ended up with these base candidates in Florida and Georgia, that was due in large part to Donald Trump. He endorsed to Santa's Hunedoara Kemp. And so if they lose one or both of those governor's races, I think a lot of Republicans are going to look at those endorsements and say, was that really the right move? What does the forecast say about this race? We don't actually have a forecast because we're not doing governor to put you on the spot. No, no. But I think that there are a lot of interesting. Can we just take out our crystal ball for this. Maybe Rebecca, and I will just give our cat. That usually works well, right. I just a few things. I have a point out. Number one camp has a small lead in the polls over Abrahams, but he's not over fifty percent. If neither candidate gets over fifty percent November. There's a runoff in December and traditionally in the state of Georgia blacks have had a tendency not to turn out as an high of numbers or make up its large of the electric in runoffs, but the sample size is small. So if you look at Louisiana another southern state, in fact, blacks have actually made up a higher percentage generally speaking runoffs than the general election. So I think it might not be a bad thing for Abrahams. If this gets to run off, especially considering that the black population in Georgia is booming so that if you look back in two thousand only twenty three percent of voter turnout in the two thousand election was African American. This year thirty, three percent ten percentage point boost is the percentage of voters that African Americans make of the wouldn't political reporters all have plans to go on vacation in the month of December. Just love runoff in Georgia. In one of the most important states in the union Republicans that it's not. It's not unlikely. Wow. Dynamics at twenty twenty two, right? If if I Democrats able to win in Georgia, I know that the electoral makeup of a presidential election is a lot different than governor's race, but if they can prove that they can win in Georgia huge breaks, it would just change things that way. All right. It's time now for trivia Rebecca was on here for trivia last week. I'm the defending champion of trivia Rebecca. Not to intimidate you in any way, shape or form. I still feel like I'm old Wendy's from week one. There's no four, four here on now. I'm the judge, so all right, let's hit us hit us. Okay. This is a slightly different spin which state in the television show the west wing, put Matt Santos over the top. In the presidential election, I should know this. I am a west wing. Then you didn't see this season. Now what state put Matt Santos of the top and the presidential election depict and I'm gonna sign Missouri all say, I wa. Those are both incorrect. 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#193 What to Watch For During This Year's Midterm Elections

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#193 What to Watch For During This Year's Midterm Elections

"Inc. Uncensored is brought to you by Goldman Sachs for insights from leading thinkers on the state of markets industries and the global economy listened to their podcast exchanges at golden Sachs. You'll hear discussions on a variety of topics with far-reaching implications from venture capitalist feeling innovation to the global shift toward renewable energy to economic impacts of President Trump's legislative agenda and more that's exchanges at golden Sachs. Available wherever you find your podcast at GS dot com slash podcast. The following podcast contains explicit language. Hello and welcome to Inc. Uncensored our gut the mouth business. Entrepreneurship technology cool companies adjust about anything that hits like buttons of the fantastic people who write and edit for Inc. My name is James Ledbetter on the editor of Inc magazine and Inc dot com, and I'm very pleased to be joined by three of my steam colleagues. We have staff writer, Emily canal running Jim senior writer, Christine, LaGuardia traffic in M and features editor Diana ransom. Hey, we've got three topics to discuss today. I will tell you what to look for during next week's midterm elections. Then we'll talk about fringe social media in the age of the recent alt- craziness and finally we will examine what retailers are doing to prepare for the holidays. Plus, stay tuned for our like buttons, a quick hit on something. We saw this week that we liked I don't want to give too much away. But they will involve good-looking robots and manscaping. Okay. Tuesday is the long-awaited midterm elections. Can't come too soon. And we have been looking on ain't dot com at some of the more interesting and revealing races, Diana. This is your turf, right? Thank you. Too bad. It's not twenty twenty yet. But we have the midterms coming up and while while there we won't be deciding president we will be deciding some key races. So let's go ahead and talk about that for our audience specifically, you know, entrepreneurs small business owners there were some key issues that we wanted to pinpoint and to highlight if there were any kind of races where those key issues might be decided or somehow might be furthered along by depending on who won. So with that said, we we identified five states, I up his Zona not for what you would think. It's not very gracious. It's actually for healthcare. So as you all know, John McCain who passed away he was the key. He was the key vote against repeal of the last year s the Affordable Care Act. So since in his stead, John Kyle is now in a seat, and John Kyle has expressed that he will stay on until January, but he could stay until twenty twenty all this is to say. Say that there are essentially two seats up for grabs in Arizona, and we have one Republican Martha mcsally who was going up against Kristen cinema. Who's a democrat? They're both congress people. And essentially if Martha doesn't win her bid at bid at the Senate this time she actually Mike at a second shot. If John Kyle doesn't upsetting down. So she has why this matters is because she has actually voted against the in the past as as a Representative. So she could she could very well do it again if given the opportunity in the Senate, so that's why that's important next. You know, I'd love to talk about Nevada. It's a it's a battleground state it went to Hillary in the last election and one in five of its population actually were born outside of the this country. Really? It's a key. It's a key Hispanic vote in Nevada. So the Republican incumbent is dean Heller, and he is effectively on shaky territory. So you have his challenger is. Jackie Rosen who Trump lovingly calls wacky. Jackie. For for reasons are sort of mystifying me. So the the key the key issue in this race is immigration. So obviously what the Hispanic vote people are going to want to hear from dean Heller whether or not he's going to what he's going to do about immigration reform. So basically, the people I've talked to say immigration comprehensive immigration reform is very unlikely until roughly like twenty twenty one basically when Trump if Trump were to not regain his presidential run. There could be smaller movements that could happen. Like there could be smaller measures we could pass some kind of Dhaka legislation. For instance, dean Heller has voted against the dream act in the past. So chances are he might vote against in the future. So that puts the democrat stronger footing in in Nevada. What other issues did you pinpoint the deflate of issues that you based the analysis on right, right? So the other issues are there's right to work for those who don't know. Right to work is basically like if you have unions. Are disallowed from requiring people employees from signing agreements in which they will pay union dues. So if you're in a state that's a right to work state. You can go to work without paying union dues. So this is important because in Michigan, which we all know Michigan was really heavy into the auto industry, and it's it's a union town. But in two thousand twelve they voted for right to work legislation. So on the books currently it is a right to work state. But if the trifecta of Republican leadership in Michigan is is overthrown then that could put this right to work issue in in peril. So anyway, the other that's nice out. So it's immigration. It's healthcare. It's right to work. It's also marijuana and minimum wage laws on the ballot in retail. It's it's in several states, but in various forms so in north North Dakota. It's on the ballot for recreational usage. It's on the ballot in Utah and Missouri for medical usage, so Utah. We all know what's big in Utah. Right. So the the the church of Jesus Christ latter-day saints. Yes. The Mormon church, so they actually aren't necessarily against medical marijuana. But what they are against is the effectively the ballot measure, they think that it doesn't go far enough as far as regulating the usage. So they actually they they just put out a request for their members to vote against the ballot measure with that said if it ends up passing in Utah that could be really important for the country overall because I mean it can happen in Utah. It can no kidding. Absolutely. And you mentioned minimum wage. Yes. Minimum wage is on the ballot in two states, Arkansas and also Missouri, Missouri is actually pretty pivotal in this race to or in this election. But so Arkansas, they're they're deciding voters will decide on whether to raise the minimum wage to eleven dollars up from eight dollars and fifty cents an hour. Oh. Just like WalMart. So the interesting thing here is is that you have you have also voters could weigh in because obviously voters like to get paid more money, and so usually these sorts of ballot measures passing, but you also have this the trend right now of giant companies raising their minimum wages, you have WalMart and target. And then we all know Amazon just announced that it was raising wages to minimum wage to fifteen dollars an hour. So you have this big trend that that's forcing minimum wage is higher. So the economists have talked to basically say that removing the minimum wage to eleven or twelve dollars an hour. Probably isn't going to move the unemployment rate. So effectively anything over that amount will will force employers into what they call labor saving. So basically hiring robots instead of humans. So it shouldn't actually move the needle too much. But it's still it's still will cause employers to feel the pain. I'm sure what I what I like about. This story is that we're highlighting five five key races. Right. But these aren't the big races that people were talking about these aren't like this this Stacey Abrams or Brian Kemp. Or, you know. Ted Cruz and against beta Rourke in Texas. So these are these are sort of the the the lesser known, but also for our audience, very important Bill with her raises. Exactly. But you know, that said Stacey Abrams verse Brian Kemp. They're actually both business owners. So that's that's an that's an interest. There could be redistricting issues there, depending on who wins we all know in the last the last election Republicans took the house and did a lot of like redistricting, which actually affects the vote to a great extent. So if if Stacey Abrams were to get elected, she could end up, you know, sort of turning the clock back to that to that degree. So so that could affect the next presidential run tip of the racist that you looked at when what outcome would surprise you the most if Ted Cruz loses that was president of most. But you know, and also also I'd like to see where Trump is campaigning. For a lot of Republicans. If he's actually been able to move the needle for these people. So for instance, he has campaigned for dean Heller in Nevada, and my guess is with the the different demographic shifts in that in that state that it won't even mount to too much. Thanks for giving us this guide. Let's take a quick break for an atom. We'll be right back. Inc. Uncensored is brought to you by cards. Direct wanna be industry leaders in greeting cards parts direct knows sentimentality can exist in business about seven billion greeting cards or purchase Devi year with a good portion for by businesses using them as a way the market to their customers carts. Direct is no exception. 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When I was researching my book, I did I did go to gab dot AI. I it's sort of a sort of a almost like a cross between four Chan and Twitter kind of a pretty up fortune where white nationalist racist and conspiracy theorists like to hang out on because they get kicked off the more mainstream sites, and even even read it they've been kicked off in some grew just enchanted with fortune, and it seemed like to me gab was the place where they were then finding a home online a place to spread their thoughts. I mean, even just when I logged in and signed up for the first time some of the content. I saw was just aggressively pro gun anti trans like just right right wing means that were shocking, and that I hadn't even seen on some of the darker corners of read it that's saying something. Yeah. Absolutely. And with shocking is that as other sites is since basically the Charlottesville rally, which was a turning point for silicon valley's sort of. Sort of ability to stand up against this sort of behaviour online and the extreme right wing where they sort of d platform d-, white nationalist during that rally or took them off their networks, even Airbnb booted the white nationalist. So it sort of showed that Silicon Valley could could step up and stop this stuff. Read it started than cutting off the extreme outright communities on its site. But what happens then after this weekend's, Pittsburgh synagogue shooting was the registrar go daddy revoked gab 's ability to use it, and you know, also startup that does cloud computing joy isn't took severed ties with gab shop affi- medium severed ties with gab. Basically you can't do business without having support from other small businesses and large software. Come so, you can feel go out of business. Well, I actually don't think that those things would. Completely stop it from going out of business. I think what is going to be. What is most harmful to gab right now is the fact that it only had maybe half a dozen employees. You know, Andrew Torbas the guy who founded at his wife also works there over the summer, the c o left, you know, citing the attacks from from Neo Nazis. He said after a while it just takes a toll on, you know, the natural audience that Gad had was like harassing the c o out of its own company this last weekend amid all of the the tunnels the CTO also left. So I don't really know who's left at Gada who actually owns gab. I just Andrew Tormenta, you know, the employees it's it's very strange as a as a business because it's only two years old and was basically funded by donations from users. Does that is that their business while unclear whether they have a business model? I mean, it's hard enough for Twitter to make money but a site. That tiny that has such a controversial cont as such controversial content. It's just hard to see how it's viable business. Exactly. So will there be is it is it kind of a whack a mole thing where like all the all the crazy. People leave Gavin go somewhere else where are they going to go? Yeah. You know, it could be that's I mean, that's how gap got started. Right. They said, hey, anyone who's booted from Twitter to us? And I I don't know. I mean gab is Andrew by and gab are still tweeting. They are still sort of spreading the same sorts of messages and tone that their whole site had. And and it's unclear that is sort of what has happened, historically. But I think if you know if Silicon Valley, and some of the larger tech companies really do maintain the the sort of ability to d- platform, folks, we could I think that's very powerful. And they could in fact in the future, stop, the spread of this sort of rhetoric that seems to encourage extremist behavior said the say, I'll believe it when I see right. Okay. We are moving into the holiday season and a time when a lot of companies are staffing up. Emily, you've been looking at some of the more innovative ways that companies are doing this. What have you found? Right. So it's been a tough time for employers to try to find talent one because of rising minimum wages like Diana talked about with Amazon target WalMart. But also because the employment rate is so low it's really a job seekers market and people are getting pickier and pick your so what I was looking at are these innovative ways that people can bring on talent just beyond posting like we need someone to come in and work for our business for the holidays on link dinner, something so we're seeing this rise in chat bots, and a I apps that really really helped employers. So one of them is called paradox. And it's chat bot named Livia. Basically allows applicants to engage with her and they can ask questions like why should I work at this company? What's the culture, like house vacation policy? And really dig into whether they're not they want to get to that job. And then a plot. And that takes the work off of these managers are hiring managers are HR personnel. Who would have to feel those types of questions? How does how does the button? No. I mean, this is someone have to program the, but yeah, someone has a program, but they probably get frequent questions. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like very standard things. I think if you were to ask more be more specific. So you'd have to get a human. Oh, I was just going to say, I recently countered a company that does texting facilitates. Texting job interviews. It's very it's a little light. And yeah, I think a lot of it is basically just a cut down on the time of the HR person or the manager and eliminate that sort of back and forth. So one of the strategies that a lot of employers are using right now to get talent in and make sure you're getting the best is to just hire them quickly. Few guys may be member back in the day when you were working in retail jobs. You might have an interview they might call you back week later or you applied and there's a week. There's a long time in between applying for jobs and getting shirt and these platforms are trying to cut down on that. Yeah. Interesting that could be cost saving. Yeah. It is. And so it saves a manager or an HR person time. It also gets people in the door. There's another app called Maya that chats up interested and passive candidates screens and qualifies them and then sudden's conversation. Transcript to the HR person. And then if that human green lights, the the applicant they can find time via calendar to to set up an impersonal phone interview. So I think it's just taking away that initial legwork for people. It seems like there's still an interview process or a phone call that needs to take place with a human to make sure you're not a total. I wonder if this cuts through some of the sort of the the the bias, the the unconscious bias, some HR people might have or might in. You know, accident only imbalance. A really good bright algorithms have biases to other. There are software companies that specifically are supposed to limit your bias. We've written about those in the in the magazine. Did you talk to any companies that are using these? Yeah. So I talked to a company named ferreting brand. And it's an American clothing and lifestyle brand kind of BG. And it's created by these twin brothers, Alex, and Michael Ferte, and they are using an app called Merlin, which does a similar thing. And they said that at their bleaker store. Location, which is in New York City. They're already staff of the holidays and that was like mid October. And normally they get to that point in November. But they utilize this app that does a similar thing. You know, chats people up it brings people in cuts on that time. How much do they pay? Excellent question that they wouldn't tell me. But yeah, they were saying that. They said the fact that they're staffed up at one of their biggest stores by Tober twenty-second versus November twenty second is great especially since they're doing forty percent of their business in seven weeks time. So it's nice to have that staff already there. I also talked with someone at Robert Half, which is like a recruiting management agency. And he was saying that another competitive way to get talent in the door to find talent. If you don't have money for these programs is to go old school. So look at where people are not posting jobs like local newspapers, if you're a small retailer, and you're looking for local specific population of people to bring in for the holidays, for instance, like a college a college kid, you might go to a college campus, and, you know, post post papers or talk to the college recruiter and see that can post your job post job ads somewhere. Or if you're looking for semiretired retired communities you can post a job in a newspaper because those people are still ones who reading them. But it's also cheaper than maybe bringing on some of these apps, and you will target a population that many people tend to ignore and who are still looking for work. The other side of this is that if you can't get talent in the door a lot of companies are going to turn to automation. So like, Diana noted are going to see maybe a restaurant using kiosks instead of cashiers and just moving away from as many people as possible to cut on cost move that quickly though to to get to get ready for the holidays. I think some people can if you're just eliminating a cashier. You could probably just bring in an ipad square things like that. I mean, you probably need the software, but that might be cheaper than bolstering your staff using different. Hiring techniques ahead of time. That would definitely be something you have to plan for here on inconsistent. We will all be humans through the end of the year. Garrity? We're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back with our like buttons. Inc. Uncensored is brought to you. I am is on web services. Do you ever wonder how you're streaming millions of movies on demand or how homes are being turned into hotels? Business minds dream, these ideas, Amazon web services, build the broadest functionality and the most experienced the leading enterprises trust the AWS cloud to build the next big idea. Are you ready to build it? Learn more at AWS is how dot com slash podcast. All right. Let's close out with our like buttons a quick hit on something. We saw this week that we liked Emily. So if you're a frequent listener of the show, you know, I watch a lot of shark tank. That is true. It's true. It's so nothing is true. But I watched the most recent episode on Sunday, and it was weird. There was a company that came on. It was a father and son co founding team, and they created this. This men's hygenic kind of company would be the best way to describe all geared towards men's grooming habits below the belt, which they does this other company is called manscaping. Yeah. It was someone had to do it. I mean, they're SEO's great. So they came on the show and their new Endo's. I was absolutely astonished that they could get past ABC with their innuendos on hair. Trying to be PG. They couldn't like demo this. They couldn't lie demoted. So the use innuendos gardening. Yeah. So like they had I don't it's on YouTube, folks. I remember one. But anyway, they went in seeking five hap-. Oh gym. Yeah. I'm looking at the website. The low and lower two point. Oh, yeah. So they went and asking for a half a million dollars, and you know, at first the sharks were like, no way. And they were saying they had just opened in two thousand seventeen but they had done one point five million in sales last year by just leaning into this kind of humorous concept of manscaping and is rolling with the the comedy and making it a little less uncomfortable to talk about like, the Dollar Shave Club. Yeah. Exactly. They were just like, hey, we all know that like this is something that guys talk about our wonder about. And here's some tools chintzy. I am quoting rushing to everyone in this room blushing. Anyway, it was a really interesting episode, this father and son team were very charismatic, and they get a deal as scored a huge deal, partly because Lori was like, oh, I want to sell this on QVC geared towards women who had by this for or of course, and. Yeah. And then Mark Cuban was like, I will Bank roll this. If you sell it on QVC, and that is how the two founders got half a million dollars. See deal America Christine this week. Thursday was Google walkout day at certain desks of Google employees liver instead of a person a little sign that read. I'm not at my desk because I'm walking out in solidarity with other Google's and contractors to protest sexual harassment misconduct, lack of transparency and a workplace culture. That's not working for everyone. So I think it'll be I it's it's great to see these, you know, hundreds thousands of people. We don't have final numbers yet. Actually standing up for what they believe. And and maybe they will make a make a change in their own corporate policy, Google right with a lot of places, Diana. Yeah. Uh so WalMart announced this week that they are going to turn their parking lots into community centers, outdoor outdoor malls effectively. So they're going to start. They're going to start things that they helped actually destroy. Yeah, retail. So just to give you a sense they're going to introduce green spaces playgrounds jogging paths, fountains, maybe even live music. Farmers markets Easter egg hunts. So basically all the things that you could do in a community center. You will now be able to do in WalMart parking was so I'm going to go for a jog at like fresh produce. And then like pick up a bag of charcoal. Probably. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. You can you. It'll be really a one stop shop. Okay. My like button this week for the first time comes from the institute of electrical electronics engineers, I triple E. We all know as we discussed last week that the workplace of the future will involve a lot more interaction between humans and robots. And so one of the things that's interesting is robot designed that appeals to people like what do people like to interact with versus what they do not. And so the I Tripoli has set up this website that allows you to vote on on different types of robots, and I think the the thing that interests me, the most is that the the most highly rated designs are not humanoid at all. They look like this one looks like a little seal or a little puppy or they look kind of like machine people if you know what I mean like our robot. No, rose like the rubber contrast that with the creepy. Which are really really creepy valley valley creepy, but I love that. The is basically created Tinder for robots. That's all for this week. I want to thank my colleagues, Emily canal Siping right on that seal. Chris. I'm going to have a picnic at a WalMart. Ransom. I can't say anything to that. Thank you censored. Please go to apple podcasts and leave us review. It's wonderful to hear what the thinking. And also a great way for new listeners defined. This can also send us feedback to center that dot com. Our producers Manella Morales. I'm James Ledbetter. 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Healthcare activist, and cancer survivor, Laura Packard

The Electorette Podcast

20:04 min | 6 months ago

Healthcare activist, and cancer survivor, Laura Packard

"I'm jim taylor skinner. And this is the electorate on this episode. A have a conversation with laura packard. Laura is a healthcare activists in a cancer survivor and she joins me to discuss. How the affordable care act saved her life we talk about her activism during the trump years. And how she fought to keep the affordable care act intact so that more people are helped in the same way that she was. We also discussed the biden harris administration and their plans to strengthen the aca including the recent executive order signed by president biden. Lastly we talk about an upcoming supreme court decision that may strike down the affordable care act so without further ado. Here's my conversation with laura packard. Good welcome to the podcast. Thank you so. I really want to go straight to the heart of your personal story as an advocate and as health activists in you know of course. There's a patient because you were diagnosed with stage. Four cancer. I believe a few years ago several years ago and you have credited the affordable care. Act with saving your life. How so well about four years ago now. I walked into a doctor's office with a nagging cough and walked out with stage. Four cancer diagnosis. I'm self-employed a my insurance. Is through the affordable care. Act in before the aca. I used to have junk insurance. If i still had that junk insurance policy today i will be bankrupt or dead. But because i had good insurance through the aca. I was able to get through six months of chemotherapy and the radiation to be here in remission. Today i think during the same period iowa's also self employed on. I had drunk insurance. I had insurance. When i gave birth to my first child. You it saved your life because you know not only do the your life but possibly could have gone bankrupt from all of the bills right right and so i looked at the bills after the fact at the time. It was just too much to deal with getting pills every day every week but i went through with a calculator in it was over half a million dollars in insurance bills that my insurance thankfully covered. No one can afford that i mean. That's that's incredible. So were you a healthcare activist before diagnosis. Well i worked for the afl cio and they sent me to arkansas in two thousand and nine To work on several issues including getting the affordable care act passed in the first place. I was i was a young activist working for the afl for labor. And so i worked with people that had these terrible heartbreaking healthcare stories but i was young and healthy and so it was something i cared about but it didn't affect me personally and i had no idea that less than a decade later a work that i was doing to pass this law would then my life right you know. I think it's kind of gone unappreciated for the most part. How much the. Aca changed for people. Because i've heard stories of people saying you know the affordable care act saved. My life was saved me from going bankrupt. But you don't often hear the personal stories of people of how exactly it saved their lives or how exactly it save them from going bankrupt and i remember back in because that was two thousand nine so the forego correct they think passed in two thousand ten and eleven years ago and i think you know we don't talk about how much it's changed people. Just it was. It was a huge paradigm shift. You know before then you can get health insurance if you had a pre existing condition and now that just seems archaic There's a whole generation of people. That aren't here today because they died because they didn't have health insurance so now you're hearing a lot more stories because we're still here. I remember a moment that was caught on video. It was back in two thousand eighteen. I think and there was this public event in nevada. You know what i'm getting. We know where i'm going with this. There's a senator by the name of dean heller. Who was being this event. And you were in nevada at at that time. And he was your senator and you went into the public event because you wanted to ask questions of him. Because he was going to repeal or he was going to vote to repeal the aca and he was representing you. And you read this. Can you tell me what happened that that a bit because it went viral. Yes this was. In december of twenty seventeen so i had just spent several months going through chemo than going to radiation calling my senator every other day and they were just about to vote on the tax cuts Or actually maybe they already had voted. I think it was in between like they'd taken a preliminary vote but they hadn't done the final vote yet on the Trump tax law and so This was a saturday. I think so. I'd had radiation the day before or whatever and this was the only public event that dean heller did that. I had access to that entire year. So as soon as i heard that was doing this event i signed up and i showed up and he was taking questions from the audience on pieces of paper and so i'd written my question down on paper. You know asking him about his Tax law vote and then when he told my question and asked it i stood up and his people didn't like what i had to say so they threw me out and you can see video. I had just a few sentences. I asked my question in setback down. But nope they his security people were having none of it. Yeah i remember that actually so what. What was it were you i. I don't remember what exactly you're asking him. What was worthy of your being thrown out. What did you say well. They had been throwing out people. Throughout that event. There were people that had asked Senator heller his immigration votes and so on and just anytime anybody asked a question they got thrown out so i knew that that was probably going to happen to me but it was important enough and when he asked my question. I stepped forward And i was not in good shape. I'd just been through six months of chemo. I'd just been through weeks of radiation. And so i was a little worried that they were going to be arresting people because with no immune system to speak of jail was not going to be a good place for me but thankfully they didn't go that far. They just threw us out they. They didn't take us to jail or anything but just it's it's astonishing to me that a sitting. Us senator Didn't have answers for his constituents. His answer was just to have visited. Yeah exactly and i should rephrase that because it doesn't matter what your question is or even how you ask it. I mean you are constituent. You have a right to ask a question something that you should actually be angry about and be able to ask that question and get an answer you know an. I actually remember that. I have to tell you this. Because i remember the video i remember seeing that was watching it again last night i think and i just made the connection because back in two thousand seventeen you know it went viral and i saw it online and i remember seeing you in just your raw emotion. I don't know if it was anger or fear. I remember my heart going out to this woman that i didn't know and thinking that you know that can that can happen to any of us. We could be standing there. Fighting for our lives in front of a person is supposed to be representing us trying to get him to save our lives and he doesn't care and the the connection i made. I literally just made this connection yesterday. That that the person i'm talking to right now who gets through this interview with was that women and i was like florida's like that's the same person on an idiot as that laura. I didn't realize it so i just have to say now that they have you here. Thank you for that thank you for your activism and thank you for doing that and standing up for not just yourself but for everyone they do and there were so many of us that stood up. And that's why we still have the affordable care act. Today is all of the people that were telling their stories and talking to their senators. We made it impossible for them to ignore us. It was a close. It was really really close saying but we would. Yeah and for the listeners. I just have to close out Senator heller story because and to twenty one nineteen. I think he was unseated. His seat was flint. A woman won his seat in two thousand nine hundred and it was Senator rosen senator jack. Exactly she you know. Flip to seat and he is low longer. The senator right. Dean heller is no longer a center and cory gardner is not a senator either. Excellent that's that's a great way to end that story at least this to the present with the biden harris administration throughout biden's campaign. He made a lot of promises to expand the aca right. And i'm curious about what you think about that in relation to what you saw during the obama administration around. Just introducing the aca Well so far. President biden has made a good start each signed an executive order that established a special enrollment period so that people can sign up for health. Insurance from february fifteenth to may fifteenth on the federal exchange in most of the state exchanges have followed suit because some states like colorado where i live have their own state exchange in their following the same dates in this means that millions of americans. That don't have health insurance. Have another opportunity to sign up instead of having to wait the entire year so that was one thing he did. And another thing he did with via. Executive order is directed federal departments to stop attacking medicaid and a healthcare in general in work to expand instead of Taking that away so there aren't necessarily immediate effects although this means that. Cms will do things like no longer approve work requirements and so on which are an excuse to take healthcare away from people that desperately need it But there are more bells that are being talked about congresswoman. Loren underwood has bill to make the affordable care. Act more affordable right. Now if you if you make a little bit too much money you don't get any help with a tax credits for premiums you. Can you make a little bit too much. There's no help for you and so taking away. The income limits. So that no matter how much you make you. Don't pay more than eight point five percent of your income on health insurance premiums so that will help many more people and it might become a part of the stimulus bill. That's being talked about. Right now i hope so because that's also something that's really needed for people that are Priced out of healthcare right now following. Hope to meet that bill a priority because that would be a huge game changer. Actually and you know. I personally think that extending the sign up period for four months is a huge deal. I mean that's a lot of time. Because i was trying to scramble and make sure that everyone that i knew he didn't have health insurance signed up before the original closing date time january. So that's a big deal And i just saw something today. A urban institute's survey results from september and many adults that don't have health insurance aren't even aware only about half of the uninsured. Adults that were surveyed had heard a lot about the marketplace and almost half of uninsured adults had not looked for information because they were concerned about cost. So that's why it's so important to go to healthcare dot gov and check it out because it might be more affordable than you think. A lot of dolts are eligible for a low cost or even a free plan so in regards to what the biden harris administration laid out for their plans for the aca in their agenda. Because i remember one of the things that stood out to me is that they wanted to expand it generally. but that's pretty broad. is there anything. That's that's promising to you that you're looking forward to in that expansion well So helping people with the affordability piece where people make too much money to get help. Right now. There's also some glitches in the law that needs to be fixed. Where if one family member is eligible and another is not They don't get a tax credit help. A but what's really important to look at is all of the states. That refused to expand medicaid which means people at the very bottom. They don't make enough money to really be to afford health insurance at all. But they aren't eligible for medicaid those states including texas florida and georgia and north carolina so millions of adults in these states should have access to medicaid but those states just refuse to expand it because of their conservative leadership. And i just read that. There are looking at doing ballot initiatives in florida mississippi and south dakota so if it's on the ballot in every state that it's been on the ballot so far even utah even nebraska. It's one because americans believe that healthcare is a human right and everybody should have it so. I'm just curious to because you were around during the the fight for a when obama was in office. And you're around fight for now. I'm curious about what you think about the energy around that debate in comparison to what it was like in two thousand eight two thousand nine for instance. I was listening to be with chuck schumer the other day. And you know he is like. He's got his boxing gloves on. Like he's not gonna take anything. Remember who was saying that back when they were fighting for obamacare or ford will care. Act back in the early odds That you know. Democrats went in kind of naive. They thought the republicans were willing to work with them right and so they didn't go as bold as they could right and because of that the aca was less. You know wasn't as bold as it could have been. And i feel like. I don't know how you feel but i feel like this time. It's different like i think that people are democrats specifically west. My even they're gonna fight for more. Lucy can only snatched away the football so many times i mean people have heard the susan collins song in dance so many times and enough people that are working in the policy realm right now saw what happened last time around and know that the republicans are not negotiating in good faith. They care about deficits only when they're not empower but they're more than happy to give away trillions and tax cuts to the billionaires when they are in power so they don't actually care about deficits unless democrats are in charge and in terms of health. Care what they say privately and how they vote are two different things so privately. They'll say we'll negotiate. We all wanna make healthcare more affordable. We can work together and then when it comes to voting no so i think enough democratic leadership people have learned that they are not honest that they are not trustworthy and that we shouldn't hold back trying for a bipartisan solution. That will never come. Brian and i think more people should talk about the fact that you know. During all during the trump administration that were promising to replace the aca with their magical healthcare plan which never came to. We never saw this healthcare plan. It never came and we should. We should remind people of that that they have no interest in giving people healthcare. None right. I mean you can see the one thing that they push through with reconciliation the thing that republicans cared the most about was tax cuts for rich people. When push came to shove and they could only do one thing. That was the thing they did in healthcare. They just don't care. Yeah well you know. I think that another thing that's going to be a game. Changer is unfortunately kovic right in the pandemic because another thing that we don't talk about enough is the fact that even though you know. Thousands and hundreds of thousands of people have recovered. There are indications that the recovery isn't a full recovery. they're going to be. Some long term sometimes debilitating changes in a person in their healthcare that we're going to have to address so we're going to have to have universal healthcare in some form and republicans can't just sit on the side by give tax cuts to the wealthy and i was just reading yesterday about a new survey that showed that people that had recovered from covid had a higher than average incidence of diabetes. So that's something else. Perhaps a long haul covid symptom is that it can trigger diabetes in previously healthy adults. So there are so many things about this disease and its effects that we don't even know yet but For some number of people it is going to have lifetime effects. There's a supreme court decision. That's coming down. Are you from your with i. Can you tell me what it is. And what's happening okay. Wednesday february third supreme court is going to announce some decisions. It's unclear how many and what they are about Many people are speculating. One of the decisions will be about the affordable care. Act that the timing of this is because they want to release their decision before the special enrollment periods starts and which is fifteenth which is coming up fast. So people are speculating. But nobody knows whether the ruling will be tomorrow and nobody knows whether that ruling will be good or bad they could declare the entire affordable. Care act unconstitutional. They could declare parts of it. They kick it back to a lower court during the hearings. It sounded promising. The justices sounded skeptical of the arguments of the people that we're trying to tear down the aca but we really have no idea how they're going to rule until they roll and we have no idea when they're going to rule until they roll may have to have you back on to talk about that ruling once we know especially given what that could mean for people with preexisting conditions including the people who have long term health issues following. You know having kobe. Maybe these people would be uninsurable. I'd imagine many people like me are uninsurable without the affordable. care act. No insurance company would cover a cancer survivor if they didn't have to. So if the affordable care act is taken away up to a hundred and thirty five million americans with pre existing conditions could be vulnerable. It could mean the return of annual and lifetime limits even if you have employer based insurance it could mean kids are kicked off their parent's insurance They don't get to stay on until age twenty six. It could mean the things that we take for. Granted like free preventative care. Free annual exams of free. Mammograms that those things would all go away because that all built into the aca while laura packard. I'm so glad that i finally met virtually some so. Why am thank you so much for fighting for everything fighting for healthcare for everyone and everything he's done and thank you so much for joining me. Thank you and look forward to hearing. Hope fully good news from the supreme court

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Midterms will show whether non-Trump Republicans can win by stoking racial animosity

The Daily 202's Big Idea

08:58 min | 2 years ago

Midterms will show whether non-Trump Republicans can win by stoking racial animosity

"The daily to otas big idea is sponsored by Delta Airlines, the commercial airline the US military trust to perform maintenance on its aircraft. Learn more at delta taking action dot com. Good morning. I'm James Holman from the Washington Post and this is the daily to for Monday, November fifth. In today's news Democrats in tough Senate races, avoid mentioning their party affiliation. The house map continues to expand into red districts. Thanks to a green wave and Florida is one of several governor's race is tightening in the closing days before the midterms. But first the big idea the fierce battle for control of congress in the nation's governorships has turned toward blatant and overtly racial attacks rarely seen in America since the civil rights era of the nineteen sixties a new robo call going out to voters in Georgia. Features of voice impersonating Oprah Winfrey and calling Stacey Abrams who was running to become the nation's first black woman elected governor, quote, a poor man's aunt Jemima in Florida. The Trump administration's secretary of agriculture Sonny Perdue urged voters not to elect Andrew gillum who would be that states. First black governor with a cloak realism widely seen as having racial connotations this election. He said is quote, so cotton picking important and some Republicans suddenly scrambled following the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting to distance themselves. From Representative Steve king, the Republican from Iowa the moves come after king said that a far right party in Austria. With historic ties to the Nazis would be Republican were in the United States. Other odious Kim comments over the years of drawn little criticism. But a lot of Republicans realize that they are endangered by this kind of rhetoric. The two thousand sixteen election confirmed that a potential president could run and win after stoking racism now in their closing days. The midterms are shaping up as a demonstration of whether the entire Republican party concede by following Trump's lead by running so overtly on racially tinged messages by colleague, Matt visor reports in today's newspaper. The GOP is putting that explosive form of politics on the ballot. If Republicans maintain control of the house, the notion of running a campaign built on blunt race based attacks on immigrants and minorities will have been validated. A loss on the other hand might prompt. A number of. Thoughtful Republicans to call for rethinking the party's direction. But that would collide with a sitting president who have anything relishes over the edge rhetoric. The stakes for the party's future and the country's future are enormous. Republicans now are an overwhelmingly white party, whereas Democrats represent a multi-ethnic coalition. The problem for the GOP is that the nation is moving swiftly in the direction of democratic demographics. Trump is hardly been cowed by the occasional please from GOP leaders to tone down his language as the campaign has barreled toward its final hours. The president expanded his native is to peels proudly calling himself a nationalist and trying to drive his base out with threats about a caravan of central Americans creeping toward the US border with Mexico after deploying thousands of US troops to the southern border. For a pre-election photo op the president boasted at a rally Saturday afternoon, quote, barbed wire used properly can be a beautiful sight. And that's the big idea. Here are three other headlines that should be on your radar number one democratic Senator Joe Donnelly and Indiana has avoided mentioning his party affiliation. At all as he fights for re election. Donnelly is worked to distance himself from the far left of his party and embrace some of Trump's policies. His strategy is similar to that of several other red state Democrats, including Claire mccaskill and Missouri. Who's tried to separate herself from parts of her party this past week by saying she's not one of those quote crazy Democrats were hearing similar things from Joe mansion in West Virginia during a recent debate. Donnelly said he was open to changing birthright citizenship, which is protected by the fourteenth amendment saying we have to take a look at that. He's also been a steadfast supporter of a border wall with Mexico and he voted in favor of funding. It three times he also criticized the Senate for failing to deliver the money for Trump's signature proposal, Barack Obama interestingly enough campaign for Donald in Gary Indiana on Sunday night, Neanwhile John Ralston highly. Respected dean of the Nevada. Press corps predicts that Republican Senator dean Heller will probably lose his seat. They're based on early voting numbers Heller. It looked like a Dead Man Walking for some time. But that race had tightened and national journals. Josh crush, our predicts that the Montana Senate race could become one of tomorrow night's biggest surprises democratic and come in. John tester is facing off with Republican Matt Rosendahl. There hasn't been very much quality polling there and political operatives on both sides agree that testers probably narrowly ahead, but there are enough undecided. Voters to make it uncomfortably close for both parties. And it's too successful. Senate races tester one just forty nine percent of the vote with so much partisan polarization in many red state Democrats losing ground in the final weeks. It's not hard to see. How tester could end up falling short. Number two. Looking at the house side, small dollar donations to democratic campaigns have helped expand the battleground map deep into conservative strongholds democratic candidates. In a switch from past elections have raise more money than Republicans in the midterms particularly in small sums under two hundred dollars. That's not as new strategists across the political spectrum point to the breakneck fundraising as a sign that Democrats are well positioned to take control of the house this year. They're calling it a Greenway as in greenbacks. Politica reports that some top house. Republicans now fear that Trump singular focus on immigration in the final days of campaigning could cost them more seats because it's Ginny up Democrats more than Republicans many of these exact same GOP operatives. Welcome Trump's initial talk about the migrant caravan and border security two weeks ago thinking that it would help them save some at risk Republicans. But now, they think Trump went overboard, and that will cost them dearly in suburban districts from Chicago to Minneapolis, Dallas and Houston. Meanwhile, something interesting is happening in California with Republicans holding about a half dozen vulnerable seats Democrats believe their path to recapturing the house runs right through the Golden State, but Trump support for. Delivering more water to farms in the state's central valley could help the GOP save two or three seats that otherwise would have flipped for decades. Farmers in the central valley of found themselves nodded in a tug of war with coastal residents and environmentalists over how much of California's finite. Water supply should be divided. Among seating city-dwellers supplying habitat for river critters and cultivating crops. Trump is come down squarely on the side of the farmers. Number three democratic dreams of flipping as many as six Republican governorships are starting to dwindle as several raises come down to the wire. Now, Democrats are especially confident they're going to defeat Illinois Republican Bruce rounder, one of the nation's least popular governors and one of the nation's blue states. They also believe they'll pick up the chief executive's offices in Michigan, and you Mexico which are held by retiring Republicans, but whether Democrats can make dramatic gains, perhaps even reaching parody with Republicans for governorships will come down to a half dozen races and states that form the backbone of Trump's surprise twenty sixteen victory Wisconsin and Iowa, for example, remain dead heats. They could go either way GOP strategists. And political observers say that the gubernatorial racist tightened significantly in Florida where elections have been shaped by year of natural and man-made Florida-based disasters in the panhandle where Trump held a rally Saturday night residents are still recovering from hurricane Michael, which ravaged coastal communities in a military base. The center of the state is seen an. Of thousands of Puerto Ricans potentially new voters since hurricane Maria devastated. Their island last year and on both coasts noxious and toxic red tide algae is bloomed will green algae is choked inland waters. What voters decide on the stew of issues and events will have significant consequences on Tuesday when Andrew gillum faces Ron descent, a former Republican congressman, it will also have implications for the twenty twenty presidential election. If Trump can't win Florida. He cannot get reelected. And that's the daily to to for Monday, November fifth. Thanks so much for listening. I'm James Holman. I'll talk to you tomorrow election day.

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Weekly Roundup: Thursday, October 18

NPR Politics Podcast

39:06 min | 3 years ago

Weekly Roundup: Thursday, October 18

"Support for this podcast and the following message come from internet essentials from Comcast, connecting more than six million low income people to low cost, high speed internet at home. So students are ready for homework class graduation and more now they're ready for anything. Hi listeners. I'm Adrian and I'm Laurin. We're at the age Andrew's experimental forest in the Oregon cascades were scientific measurements happen every second of every hour of every day since the nineteen sixties. This podcast was recorded at one forty, seven PM on Thursday, October eighteen things may have changed since this was recorded. Enjoy the show. Hey, there. It's the NPR politics podcast, and we're here with our weekly roundup of the week's biggest political stories. The long standing feud between Massachusetts Senator, Elizabeth Warren and President Trump intensified this week after warring, DNA tests to try and claim her native American ancestry and across the country. Senate races are tightening up with less than three weeks to go until the mid terms. I must Mukalla political reporter, Detrick congress. I'm Dominica Montenero political editor, and I'm Mara Liasson national political correspondent. So before we dive in Scott, you are speaking to us on a long distance line. You are in Las Vegas catches up on wire there. I've got a new podcast residency just like Celine Dion doing podcasts from the Luxor three nights a week, the big Senate race. Do you have a stage name? No, you know, it's just me. It's just Scott d'etre live on plugged. I talk about politics. I talk about myself. It's a real. It's an intimate moment. As it include magic tricks. No, no, that's a different act. This is this is just politics and storytelling, but so he's got. You were saying you're there for a Senate race, in addition to your side act? Yes. Jackie rose in the democrat running against dean Heller. We're going to talk about this later, but he is the Republican most danger of losing a seat, and I'm actually in reality sitting in the parking lot of the culinary union, which is a big political force here. And soon as the podcast is done, I'm going to be out knocking on doors or following around union members, knocking on doors as they get ready for early voting which is about to start. We'll certainly get into that race a lot more later on in the podcast. But first, let's talk about this DNA test that we mentioned that Elizabeth Warren did give me an echo. What exactly did Senator Warren do an talk to us a little bit about why she seemed to think this was an important move while she's three weeks out from her twenty eighteen reelection, but that is not why she did this. So you know, President Trump has been calling her quote, unquote, polka haunt us. Fresno. Long as she's been critical of him. So Elizabeth Warren went and got a DNA test. She's somebody who's originally from Oklahoma, she'd heard these stories growing up that a great, great, great grandmother was perhaps partially native American and it became a controversial issue in her initial Senate run because she had checked the box along at some point in Massachusetts. So that became an issue. She decided three weeks out from the mid terms that she was going to reveal the results and do it starting with a video. Hi, this is Elizabeth Warren is Dr Pistole Montagne please. I am Carlos booster Monty and have advised companies in direct to consumer space, including ancestry dot com. Twenty-three in me and helix and the center genome. We did find five segments of native American ancestry with very high confidence where we believe the air rate is less than one on one thousand now president likes to call my mom Aligarh. What are the facts? Say. Absolutely have a native American, the ancestor in your pedigree, and we should mention that these DNA results. I think we're really difficult for a lot of people to interpret. I mean, for starters, there's not a lot of native Americans in the DNA genetic pool. So the geneticist who did this as he has to rely on people from different South American countries to pull this all together and then you look at the actual results. And it turns out that Senator word and they say is somewhere between one sixty. Fourth and one, one thousand and twenty fourth native American. The reality of this is that this was the clearest sign yet that she's running for president. Okay. Because what you do when you're a candidate for office is that you get your biggest vulnerability out of the way. And you know, it's never going to be a lot of good news coverage when it comes to this issue for her or big loaner ability, but getting it out of the way now makes it a three day story rather than three. Eweek story and she can say in two thousand nineteen, it's been litigated and Mara certainly her target audience as Dominica mentioned is not really her opponent in the two thousand eighteen election that she's running. It was Donald Trump and we saw the president pretty quickly respond and react to this Philipson on an how he reacted. Donald Trump is an expert at finding someone's weakness and really poking at it over and over again. And this is a mistake that Elizabeth Warren made a longtime ago. She allowed academic institutions to list her as a native American baby to get points for having an one point. She was called a person of color on their staff. There's no evidence that she benefited from this. She had an opportunity to put this to rest when she first ran for Senate and she didn't Donald Trump's been hammering at her over this issue for for years. So she wanted to put at risk clearly, there was some costs to it. She got mocked as somebody who playing identity. Politics, but Donald Trump said, who cares like? He didn't really care, but he also reneged on a promising made because remember he said, if she takes a DNA test and it turns out she has Indian blood, I'll give a million dollars to her favorite charity which of course she asked him to pay up. She picked a charity that helps native American women. And he said, Nope, I'm not paying. So it's got to ask you a little bit more though about these consequences because I recognize that she feels she needed to get this issue out of the way, but you, especially if she's going to run for president, but there were serious consequences specifically within the native American community. They did not respond well to the to this DNA test. Yeah, absolutely. And this was something that you know as a as a white person who has not really been fully exposed to native American culture as much as others I was. I was surprised by, and I think a lot of other people were as well, and I think more politically damagingly Elizabeth Warren's campaign staff was apprised by this just how deeply offense. And how much of a live electrical wire of cultural grievances and cultural appropriations and many other things over the decades. The idea of a blood test is for native Americans that you know going back to when they were subjugated to them by the US government, and then many other twists and turns of that as well, that this was was probably one of the most offensive things you could do to to claim some sort of native American ancestry. The official from the Cherokee nation who put out a statement that really just blasted Warren saying, this is a -fensive that this was the wrong way to go about this that that this really made them upset and and it seems like the the Warren campaign did not think this through and how much this would backfire with the native American community, which is a pretty important, you know, stakeholder and all of this, right? I mean, that is true, but you also saw the president jump in agree with the Cherokee nation in its criticism of Elizabeth Warren. And so you sort of have a lot of folks from different ends of the political spectrum agreeing on this. Issue. And in fact, I actually spoke to a democratic operative this week was very frustrated that they, they felt like, why did Elizabeth Warren do this? Now? Why did she feel like this was an urgent issue to address three weeks before the midterms win Democrats are fighting these races and other places, and they felt like it was just a distraction. I mean, the other big story about Elizabeth Warren, which you could argue is more important than anything about this DNA test is that she is creating a really powerful political machine nationally, and she is helping. I think something like a hundred and fifty democratic candidates around the country. So she's laying the groundwork for a run this part of her effort to lay the groundwork clearly got the most news coverage with maybe it's not the most important. She has been touted as a potential contender for the democratic nomination for president in two thousand twenty, but she's not the only person that we're seeing already making moves that signify that they're likely gonna run in two thousand twenty Dominica. Why don't you give us a rundown of some of the other lead keen aims that were. Seeing out there? Well, Joe Biden is first and foremost. I mean, I know that he somebody who maybe the base of the Democratic Party is a little lukewarm on at this point if you look at younger voters, but there was a poll out this week that showed Biden is still the person to beat for this twenty twenty nomination. If that's what we're looking at for an early front runner, you know something like a third of the Democratic Party base said that they would pick Biden if they had to pick somebody right now since talked to us a little bit about some of those other people because there's a number of senators in particular and you cover congress, whose names have been flouted about, you know, as potential contenders and they're making moves themselves visiting key states yet. And the last thing to say about Warren is is one of the more interesting things here is that she is being most overt about right now because it's it's a dance that you walk right. When you're thinking about running for president, you don't want to be saying, yeah, I'm gonna run for president when there's an important election just a few weeks away, but you wanna do the moves that kind of wink and nod that, yes, I'm thinking about it, but several other of the prominent. Senators who are thinking about running for president are all taking the basic same approach of doing a lot of campaigning for other candidates doing that in key primary states like Iowa like South Carolina in one state where a lot of the candidates and that includes Bernie Sanders, Cory Booker, Kirsten gillibrand Warren Kamla Harris. A lot of them have made repeated trips to Georgia to cover the governor's race there doing a lot to campaign with Stacey Abrams. My point that there are these questions right about what democratic voters actually want, because I do think we're hearing that night here that a lot from voters right now about sort of what direction the party wants to be headed in, who's the right person to lead them in that direction? Yeah, I think the bottom line is the democratic voters want to win. There really isn't a front runner. I think the party has to have to resolve some big fundamental debates. Do they wanna go left? Do they think that's the way to win? Do they wanna be the left wing mirror image of Trump? In other words, do they want to adopt a kind of Trumpian style, scorched earth, style of politics? That's the Michael ebanon Democrats, and they haven't decided that, but I do think they want to win and that's what's going to. I think, Dr this whole race who can beat Donald Trump, that's what they want. Are we seeing signs of this in how people are running their midterm campaigns, you think? Yeah, we're not seeing burn it all down party. I think this is. The league of women voters moment for the Democrats, not an SDS moment for the Democrats SDS was the radical students group antiwar group in the sixties. So what I'm saying is this is these are women who would have been p. t. a. volunteers running for congress. This is not, you know, anarchists saying we should blow up the system and the d triple c. which is the establishment Representative of House. Democrats won the vast majority of primaries. So I think this is not a moment where the Democratic Party is lurching left. There is agreement in the Democratic Party that they want universal healthcare, some kind of Medicare for all Medicare buy in the message you hear from Democrats is pretty clear. It's the Republicans cut taxes for the rich, ran up the deficit and now to close that gap. They're coming for your Medicare and social security and actually just just was covering a race in Utah, right? Outside Salt Lake City. Where you have these these moderate candidates running and talking about being collaborative. It's the democrat running. There's named Ben mcadams. He's a county mayor in Salt Lake City, and he was talking all about. I want to work with the Trump administration to do this. I'm going to work with the Trump administration to do that and was was very clearly walking a very moderate tone. A ton of candidates like him could be the ones who win those Republican races and put Democrats back in control. But I also will say to that point, Scott, I mean, a lot of really angry democratic voters to and I don't really know. I mean, maybe they're going to vote for whoever's at the top of their ticket this year for Senate and governor, but they're very angry and I don't recall feeling like they were as angry when I was out talking to people out of two thousand sixteen anger is a great motivator. That doesn't mean they're so angry. They wanna vote for someone who's an extreme left-wing candidate. They want to win a couple of points of data on that tobacco. That point. You know, the fact is the this is not the tea party year. This is not twenty ten. There have been. Some notable as you might call the Mara anarchists who've gotten some headlines in this election on the left, but they're not the ones who are actually by numbers winning out. You might have a handful of very progressive candidates who go to congress and win, but it's not like the tea party wave of two thousand ten where you had forty five Republican freshmen who align themselves with the tea party. That's not happening the cycle. Now, I think that this pragmatism that you're seeing is going to go very far away in twenty twenty. When the midterms are over, if Democrats took back the house, then you're gonna have. And I think it's a good thing for the party. A knockdown drag out, you know, ideological fight that push the party the left. Well, I don't know which direction it goes, but they have to figure out where they wanna go because in two thousand sixteen the, there are a lot of people on the left for who felt like the the the process wasn't fair. So if they have a fair open process where it's knocked down. Drag-out we are such a polarized country that it's forty, five forty, five or guardless. And by the time they get to a convention if they feel like it was fair and everyone gets together, they could put someone over the finish line whose enlarged by this process as Mara puts and also the Democratic Party has already made a big step forward to making it seem fair to those grassroots activists because super delegates have all been disappeared. All right. We're going to take a quick break and when we get back, we'll talk about why some Senate races this year are sadly tightening. 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As we challenge contestants and celebrities to nerdy work aims music parodies, and wonderful. Trivia find us every week on the NPR one app and wherever you listen to podcasts. And we're back. So let's talk now about the current state of the midterms and where things are at this point in time specifically as it relates to the Senate, I would say a few months back maybe longer than that earlier in the spring, there was a lot of talk about Democrats, maybe potentially being able to take over the Senate. And then that narrative kind of shifted to the fact of, you know, could Democrats basically just maintain the status quo, hold onto all their seats. And now I would say the narrative is shifting yet again, and you see some conversations or questions about whether or not Democrats could potentially even just lose some of this eats that they currently have. I don't know that the narrative has changed or if overall, we're just sort of seeing normal natural tightening, oh, how far the spring feels because it really was the fall is like early September just after the summer when everyone started to see a tipping where people were starting to look at our Zona Tennessee, Texas, all my goodness. Everyone wants to talk about the Texas. Right. Well, you know, some of that has fallen back to political gravity and political reality. You know, a lot of people will peg it to the cabinet confirmation battle in the fact that Republican enthusiasm spiked. But a lot of this is just natural tightening and in states like Tennessee and Texas, they're just happened to be more Republicans there. We started the cycle with Republicans very hopeful that they could pick up three, four, five seats because the Senate battleground is full of red states where Donald Trump is extremely popular. And to me what's been the interesting thing about this cycle is that those dreams have gone away now, yes, there was that blip of democratic hopefulness in the fall that, oh, maybe they could pick up a couple and hold their own everywhere. And maybe even the perennial pipedream of Texas came up again, but now we're back to where we were and Republicans are doing worse. I think in the Senate battleground than they should be given the map and given the great economy that they've got. We've entered that final few weeks of an election. That's kind of the dark side of. Moon where there's not many firm data points, but suddenly you see wild shifts in how a political observers view things. The Democrats might be fine after all the Democrats might be totally screwed. I, I think it's just hard to tell a specially in a mid term where it seems legitimate that enthusiasm is higher than before. We just don't know what that means in terms of who shows up to vote compared to typical midterms. I want us to talk about a few specific races that we're looking at. Maybe we could all just go around and talk about what particular race has been really interesting to us and why. Maybe it tells us something bigger, broader about the overall political culture at mar. You wanna start well, I'm looking at Florida. The governor's race there is probably the most important race in the country because Florida is the mother of all swing states in a presidential year. Donald Trump really wants a Republican to be the governor of Florida when he runs for reelection. But the interesting thing about Florida's, they've got two big marquee races, the governors, and then the Senate race where Bill Nelson, the democratic incumbent is. In a lot of trouble. If Republicans can defeat him, they absolutely put an end to Democrats hopes of taking back the Senate. But the big complicating factor is the hurricane, the hurricane, wiped out a lot of precincts in the panhandle, those are Republican areas. On the other hand, it gives the incumbent governor Rick Scott who happens to be running for Senate against Bill Nelson. A lot of opportunity to show that he's a good leader Shans on hurricanes, always give governors a big opportunity and it's Royal the the race. I mean, the governor's race has been roiled by this. So as the Senate race. But you know, you look at Andrew gillum, who's the governor who's the who's the democratic gubernatorial candidate at the top of the ticket versus Rhonda Santa's the Republican congressman, how they look on TV in these moments may actually say a whole heck of a lot to a lot of people. So has a benefit, you know you were talking Mara about the fact that Rick Scott is the governor Florida right now, so he can be on TV a lot. Well, Andrew. Guillem who is running for governor as a democrat is the mayor of talahassee, which was in area that was closer to where you know, sort of all the hurricane damage. So he also just has the opportunity to to to shine more in this political moment. And I think because we're seeing the democrat and the governor's race in the Republican in the Senate race, but both are sort of, you know out there in this moment around the hurricane, it's a little unclear to me as to who that would actually end up benefiting. And the thing to me that I think is is really fascinating about that race just generally is you've got a candidate of color in Andrew gillum using essentially the Bernie Sanders message from twenty sixteen with a kind of Obama like hopefulness about him. Does that translate in a fifty fifty state? If gillen's able to win you? Watch how much progressives are going to say that a progressive with a strong clear message can win Scott. Why don't you go next? Yeah, I guess I can talk about Nevada since I'm here. What's interesting here is that dean Heller is probably. The Republican incumbent who is most endanger of losing. And that's partially due the demographics of the state. It's increasingly purple state. We're Democrats have done well statewide recently, but Heller is an interesting test case of how Republicans deal with President Trump. Remember early on. He was a critic of President Trump during the two thousand sixteen campaign. He was a key no-vote or threaten vote. I should say when when it came to trying to repeal ObamaCare, he famously held up that process had a big press conference in Nevada where he said, I can't vote for this Bill. Then he changed course, ended up supporting the repeal effort and then became a pretty close ally of President Trump who's made repeated visits. Here. He'll be here again this weekend and Trump was joking during his last rally that Heller and he didn't get along before. Now they get along fine. So the questions I have is how to Republican voters respond to that. We've seen time and time again, that Republicans have been punished by their base for opposing President Trump is. Everything good with Heller anwr up Republican voters and does that back and forth, hurt him with Democrats and independence. The big thing in this. This is really one of three, democratic targets, and the best one that Democrats have a shot at because Hillary Clinton one here that just shows you how narrow the landscape is for Democrats to try to even nevermind pickup seats, but to hold what they're what they've got. And my other big question is what to Latinos do because Latinos in the southwest, not just in Nevada, but in Texas and an Amazon. And in the midterms more broadly, you know, really could put Democrats over the edge or hold them back, isn't it gimmick a? You were just talking about Latino voters in turnout. And that makes me think of another really interesting Senate race. That's Amazon a- I would say Democrats saw Amazon and continue to see her as ONA is a possible opportunity for them in part because if you look at twenty sixteen Democrats did pretty well. I mean Hillary Clinton, I think lost the state by less than four percent. I mean that was way closer than a traditional swing state like, oh. And one of the things that's been interesting to me though about Zona is it's a really sort of demographically estate that people think should inferior benefit Democrats, but it speaks to the exact same problem you've been talking about, which is where these voters in the Democratic Party are eras. One of these states where you know demographers will describe it as having the whitest cultural age gap. They say, which means that basically like the divide between your older population and your younger population is huge. One of the starkest in the entire country. You have a lot of retirees at new people coming into the state, largely Brown or other folks of color. And one of the big questions is okay, find that might be changing the population, but those people are young and they're often folks of color, and they don't necessarily always show up in a midterm disconnected from the system and disconnected from party politics. So Dominica woods, what race have you been really interested in this cycle? You know, I've been looking at been surprised by the fact that in Montana, an Indiana, the. Democrats there have seen pretty resilient. You know, we're talking about Jon tester, who has the buzz cut haircut, who by the way is running against the guy who's got the same buzz cut hairdo. You can go look that up. If something about Montana to that, look, I don't know what it is, but apparently that's how you show you a real Montana. But to show you a real Hoosier as I know that you. Because you are Hoosier yourself, you know the candidate who's running there who's the democratic incumbent, Joe Donnelly, and he's in this red state that President Trump won by a lot. He's running against a businessman. This guy named Mike Braun, and he's a first time candidate and Donnelley's been holding up. Republicans been surprised. Honestly, Dominica it's like I look around and some of the chatter I heard from based critic voters was a lot of skepticism about Donnelley. I think they there that he certainly got some street cred within the local Democratic Party when he decided to vote against Cavanaugh well. And I think that, you know, this is a guy who showed some independence in a lot of ways in that way in one. But let's listen to one of his TV ads, and I think you'll see why it sounds a whole lot different than some of the other Democrats across the country. Radical left wants to eliminate. I support funding President Trump's border wall extremes on the left and right want to cut defense spending. I don't want our troops in a fair fight. I want them to have the best listen to that. He says he supports ice. He said that he supports President Trump's border wall, how many Democrats across the country would say that that raised my eyebrows. Any quotes. Ronald Reagan, say, he believes in peace through strength. He also said no socialized medicine and no cutting the Affordable Care Act. Now that's a line to walk. There's not a lot of time left before election day, and I knew that we've all been talking about the ups and downs in this race, but Scott, what specifically are you looking for between now and November? Just no wins election remember six. Right. What what are you looking for between now and November? Six that you think maybe could give a somewhat of a clue about what will happen on election day will. One of the one of the biggest things that we saw this week was just the insane amount of money. The democratic candidates have have wrought in house candidates all over the country, bringing in the type of money that sometimes you see Senate Ken candidates bring in Senate candidates and beta auroras case bringing in presidential campaign level numbers. There is just a ton of donor enthusiasm on the democratic side of the candidates have a ton of money. It's my question is, what are they going to do with this at at a certain point? You can't buy more TV ads. All the TV time is taken up. So how do they use this money? Do they use it on on. On door, knocking on, get out, the vote efforts. Do they use it on digital advertising? I'm just really curious to see where that money goes and how they can leverage that advantage that they have. Because again, the the divide between the party on fundraising was was really striking and also can they spend it in a way that lays down some permanent infrastructure for Democrats in states where they haven't had much of one? Yeah, there something that you really watching these last couple of weeks. Okay. Look, the fact is you're now starting to hear that turnout in this election could be a record could be as high as it's been since the mid nineteen sixties. Another time of social and cultural upheaval. I talked to Michael MacDonald who's turnout expert at the university of Florida keeps the big turnout database that everybody looks at. And he said that he's looking at essentially four markers for indicators for why he thinks that turnouts going to be that high for mid-term. Okay. He said that there's record special election turnout high primary turn out a high degree of self reported interest in the Elec. Shen and high levels of early voting and we're seeing intensity on all of those metrics. Absolutely. And he said, when all four of those or pointing in one direction, he said, you know, look, it just seems to point to the fact that this this could be an election that is higher turnout than most people have seen in their lifetimes for mid term. And we should explain that even higher turnout, an immature immune somewhere between forty five to fifty percent of the electorate voting Mara, what are you watching? I'm watching the immigration debate. I think that now that the bread Cavanaugh moment has come and gone. I'm not saying it didn't help Republicans get more energized, but I do think that Donald Trump is looking for another culture war issue that he can use to energize his base, the caravan of people coming through Mexico from Central America on potentially on their way to the US border is something that he's been tweeting about. I think that what we've seen is when the immigration debate focuses on border security. Or abolishing ice, then Republicans win when the immigration debate focuses on taking kids away from their parents Democrats win. So I'm watching that caravan of potential immigrants to the US and seeing if it's going to blow up into a big issue before election day. That's really interesting in. It's also an issue that I think makes Donald Trump feel really comfortable, right? Like this is what he ran on. Well, he's a culture warrior. An immigration was his number one issue. He wrote down the golden escalator and said, Mexico was sending rapists St.. The United States. Immigration is the one thing over the past decade that is fired up Republicans almost more than anything else including the supreme court. So Scott, I know that you have to go report out there in Nevada. Thank you so much for taking the time to chat with us, but take care for your thing. So you got soon by Scott. All right. 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We give you the lowdown on what's worth your time and what's not find. Pop culture, happy hour on the NPR one app or wherever you get your podcasts and we'll back and it is now time for can't let it go. That's the party show where we talk about the one thing this week that we cannot stop thinking about mar. You want to go first sure. This is a non-political story that I can't let go. It's David and Goliath story. Sometimes David wins. It's also a story that goes under the headline. It's very expensive to be poor. It turns out that a woman named Amanda Ogle had her car stolen. The car was found it was towed to a toilet. And of course the tow lot said, you can have it back. If you pay us, she went to court to say, hey, I shouldn't have to do that. She's homeless. She lives in her car means a lot to her. So the court said, Nope, you don't have to pay that. Then she went back to the tow company turned out, they'd sold the car, but how long was it there? It was not there very long. They've sold the car for a hundred and seventy five dollars, but then. Seventy five dollars. Then she went to the northwest consumer Law Center where lawyers actually help consumers fight big, powerful interests and they took her case. And it turned out that even though the tow lot had sold her car, they bought it back and then they said to her sure you can have it back, but you have to pay us the seventy five dollars per day that cost a store the car. And because this lawsuit went on for so long, her Bill reached twenty one thousand dollars, six hundred twenty one thousand six hundred and thirty four dollars. So this was a real run around. She was a victim of the system, but she went to court and the judge said, Nope, you gotta give her your her car back and every day you delay Lincoln towing will forfeit two thousand dollars to the court. She beat the system. That's a great feel-good story. Mara made gives me hope. It's great. Fielder jubilating prevailed and she went to a group of of of lawyers that work for. An ordinary people instead of big corporations. On the other hand, she was a homeless person living out of her car, and it shows you how expensive it is to be poor will go next for those of you who watched President Trump on sixty minutes. You might have noticed that there is kind of icon ick painting. That was caught in the background. It's an iconic, kitschy it anyhow, we'll get onto what the painting actually is. It's a bunch of Republican past presidents sitting around. Of course, this one has an addition. President Trump is sitting in the middle. He has this really bright stark white shirt on. I will say he's a little slimmer leaner. He doesn't have a pooch in his stomach in this painting like a dog, you know, like a little pooch. He's a, he's a leaner. He's a little more fit looking in the picture and he seems like he must have cracked a joke or something because you see president, Lincoln president, Nixon prison. Reagan, they're all kind of like mid laugh. They all are seeming. The Trump is the center of attention in this picture. Anyhow, it was just really fascinating to me because apparently Trump has said he doesn't really like portrait's of himself, but he really liked this particular painting. In fact, he even called the painter to tell him how much he loved this painting. It also kind of establishes his credibility right? Like it puts him in the same rink as all these other previous. Mythologies in that way about that. But Mara, have you seen this painting close? I haven't seen the painting up close, but I'm very familiar with it because it's a famous piece of kitsch and. Sometimes sometimes with president. Oh yes. So the dogs when I looked up apparently they were playing poker. That was yes, but it's it's, it's a real common. I don't know how to describe it, but it's classic piece of kitsch. Yeah, it's like a common remake. You want to say they call the fantasy painting? Yeah, you know having all these guys together, but you guys are like trying to say that it's not high art. It's not not at all. You think it's the original ones of him doing this with different presidents is a really novel concept. Around for years. All right dividend you. This is not Andy Warhol. We serious. I'm just saying half art. All right, you go next. Okay. So what I can't let go of is the fact that Canada in entire country legalized marijuana this week and like almost nobody seemed to notice. Right. It's like we're talking about Elizabeth Warren and her like native American roots or whatever the latest thing, oh, record, you know, pause or screech, right? Because an entire country legalize marijuana, the United States, obviously, Colorado Washington state, they have legalized marijuana. California's moved that direction as well. And there are half a dozen ballot initiatives on the ballots this fall that have to do with expanding marijuana rights at the same time while this movement is happening, we have an administration that feels very differently about that. In fact, let's take a listen to Jeff Sessions who is now the attorney general when he was a Senator talking about marijuana, the creating. Of knowledge that this drug is dangerous. You cannot play with it. It's not funny. It's not something to laugh about and and trying to send that message with clarity that good people don't smoke marijuana. One of the weird pieces of conflict here though is that the US border patrol has noted that it can actually stop people from coming into the United States if they admit to even pass drug use. Now, if they're like high at the time that they're crossing the border, but of Justin Trudeau the prime minister of Canada who has admitted to pass marijuana use. If he were to say, yes, I admit to pass marijuana use. The border patrol could actually stop him from coming into the United States. There was a conference call this week with border patrol with customs and border protection where they said that they reserve the right to stop anyone they want to. And if they ask and they admit to it, they could stop them Kim, and Kanye really splitting up l. just put something out Lun, look at this and then click the link that should have been your click. Okay. Hold up. I got a late breaking Klay guys. I just opened up Twitter because this is this is unprecedented. I don't know if this is allowed. Well, I had not checked my phone for the last. What hour that we've been. This tweet from l. magazine that says, Kim Kardashian and Kanye west are splitting up emoji face. It's heartbreaking emoji. So of course I clicked the link because you know who doesn't read about celebrity gossip. And when I do look at this, oh says, when we all vote l. magazine registered to vote, it's a sham fake not a sham as really smart. It's through rock. The vote apparently. But I feel like this is fake. Everyone already thinks there's fake news and other using fake news started getting so minded. How is that any different than saying? Amazing exercises to shrink your tummy fat. They're going to get two million people to click on that thing. Maybe you get fifty thousand or one hundred thousand people sign up to vote it accomplished. Exactly the goal. You know how many people said it was annoying that the Obama campaign would send these emails that said, you me and Michelle dinner question. Mark is like, what are they send this every time. Why they do it because it raised them a ton of money. The psychologists say, you feel by and he's still people granted celebrities, but like they're saying that they split up. I mean, how do you think Kim uncanny feel about this for the National Enquirer. That's true. Ouch. I was very annoyed by this. The. All right. Well, those are the things that we just can't let go of this week. We'll be back as soon as there is a political headline that you need to know about until then I must call political reporter. I'm Dominican much our political editor and I'm Mara Liasson national political correspondent in thank you for listening to the NPR politics podcast. This podcast and the following message is brought to you by jet dot com. Your one stop shopping destination. The jet experience provides unique and relevant assortment with no membership fees. Start shopping conveniently at jet dot com or on the jet app today.

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Don Trump junior tweeted out the full email chain between him and a music publicist with ties to Russia named Rob Goldstone love. It's this last night during the show but please if you haven't you haven't taken some time to Google Rob Goldstone go ahead go ahead and treat yourself to that six while we take the podcast which of course there will be of course there will be every every time someone says launch with Mitch McConnell I can't get the Obama White House Correspondents Dinner Joke Out of my head you have a drink are Republican senators are at a lunch with Mitch McConnell and he's unveiling new built in them officially WE'RE GONNA start with boy Genius Donald Trump junior I in case any news that break and with some official documents and information that would incriminate hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father this is obviously very high level and sensitive but it is ultra sensitive so I wanted to send it to you I outstanding so what was juniors response of course quote if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer junior goes on of information but as part of Russia and its governments support for Mr Trump I can also send this info to your father via Rona as personal assistant I mean only thing I can do here's read some excerpts because it's basically no different then one of those Nigerian prince emails first of all the subject line persecutor of Russia which first of all I didn't know there was a position the crown prosecutor of Russia there there is an exit we haven't talked to him since the sixteen hundred days I know we we actually had I was thinking about that was that was the podcast we taped in the onto set up the meeting with the Russian government attorney Paul Manafort Jared Kushner and then fords the entire email chain to manafort and Kushner just to make hey there Goldstone guy who set up the whole thing on the email checked into the meeting using foursquare because it was the year advisors were told that the Russian government was supporting trump's candidacy something that they cast doubt on when it was concluded we predicted would happen after that magical pretend email came out has also happened which is the entire Republican party I R. US intelligence unanimously It also tells us that trump senior campaign advisors were willing to collude with a foreign adversaries nothing and that was I used that example as the absolute extreme things would obviously never happened in Lo and behold it does and everything Eh if if there is an email found from the Russian government to trump coordinating hacking of Hillary Clinton Paul Ryan was sure they have no plausible deniability fantastic fantastic and just like I just cherry on the on the top of the Sun they denied about twenty times any such meetings took place with Russians they scoffed at this notion on any number of interviews and of course we on explainer about this on the Atlantic that we can get into after flow here okay great well we'll get to that litter the crown prosecutor Russia offered to provide the trump campaign shrugging their shoulders and saying no big deal Okay so what does this tell us number one it tells us without a doubt that trump senior campaign the Russian government during the campaign trump says junior says yes I did it was about adoptions which is a code word with the CEO of a Russian state owned bank on his security clearance forms which is a crime so that's great that's what we know of the United States in order to undermine their opponents campaign it told us that trump senior campaign advisers lied their asses off about all of this for a year one count You know we have the long running said joke on this pod was if yes I'm like just thinking that another jared Kushner who is currently a senior White House adviser with top secret security clearance lied about the secret meeting also lied about a secret meeting with the Russian ambassador also lied about a secret meeting twenty ten about it on his my space page the last person who's still using foursquare up the whole thing what don't we know yet Dan How much trouble is trump junior in it feels like a lot I'm not attorney more sanctions because when the when the US put in past a wall that sanctioned Russian human rights violators rushing ended adoption program there are times calls trump in trump junior and I guess the White House and says we know you met with this Russian attorney who is very closely associated with Putin our brilliant listeners and those with legal backgrounds instantly replied the reason that what what trump junior do not did is not treason they're just they lie about everything all the time compulsively So like Tim Kaine even Seth Moulton did the intelligence community the intelligence committee in the Senate has done about this meeting since April interesting cushioned Kush revised his SF eighty six we need to give us some time to respond the near Times holds which is the responsible thing to do in this case and in that interim period Donald trump junior tweets finance violations which are both federal statutes The law prohibits accepting anything of value from a foreign government or a foreign national lawyers possibly yes it it's possible that it involves conspiracy to commit election fraud conspiracy to commit campaign from a legal standpoint the treason charge does not apply here very simple is it illegal so according to quite a few the campaign and courts have held that a quote thing of value can be something intangible like information and not just money the next day it is it is revealed that he the meeting was actually about Russia and then he puts up change the the dynamic here in a huge way because it is we now have absolute proof like the textbook example of smoking on that the trump campaign was at least open to in willing and saw nothing wrong with working with accepting help from the Russian government is that were told about this specific meaning are so suspicious you know and you guys get a little bit on Monday believe but it's which is the security clearance for him to acknowledge this meeting I think about a month ago and so the White House in new what this all was in Pod they throw out the word treason we should tell I mean we've said this before because I remember there was an episode where we wondered about treason and then we asked that is that is what he's possibly in legal jeopardy trump junior finally hired a criminal defense attorney after this was revealed so the email and before we applaud donald trump junior for for transparency here the nearest danger of doing that yes the New York Times to beat Hillary now we don't know what happened after that meeting maybe this was the only meeting that happened and then it never happened again Roy I'm very skeptical of that add the email they called Donald trump junior said we have the email trump's team who had ever more on lawyers he is he is hired say give us and yet still lied about it which is hard to understand what the thinking is there unless there's something much bigger you on a hide a year or the fact that right like remember Jared Kushner met with a Russian diplomat to try to set up a secret us very religious yeah I mean look if you go to rob a bank and hold up the whole bank and there's no money there is still tried to rob a bank out the email so that he can be applauded for transparency when all he did was just beat the airtime spent like three minutes the it's the lying that is most suspicious here did but it's basically like the it wasn't wrong to do the meeting it was they promised me information they didn't they didn't give us information so you can only be left to assume that they had for an stupid right and there's some interesting things about this too which is I senator Senator Lankford from Oklahoma No friend of the pod but he being an absolute moron is in bigger. Pr Trouble Kushner is in bigger legal trouble differently so it is very simple reason you can only commit treason by aiding country were actually at war with and we're not at war with Russia so the the in casinos easy seems easy all right so how much trouble is jared right because I some a lot of people have been making this argument that could security clearance and also you know as far as we know right now this trump junior's only meeting with a Russian government officials but jared is just swimming in them with like this has gone there you can no longer say credibly although we have an entire Cable News Network Fox that will do that that the idea that there might be collusion as in state owned bank don't know what that's all about and he had this meeting and he lied about all of them and Muller according to me lies or coordinated with the hackers or or use this information in some way so I think the way to think about this is Donald Trump junior by virtue of communications channel between the trumps and the Kremlin using Russian equipment so that was that still goes unexplained he met with the CEO of a rush the security clearance forms are called the SF eighty six and when he initially omitted these meetings he went back and added more than one hundred names to his jared is is more screwed here for a few reasons one Donald Trump junior is not currently administration Jarrett is he's a senior adviser to the President He holds a topsy act given all the other things that have happened in and jared Kushner's very specific Nisha relates only to meetings with Russians but jeff eighty six of people he met with that he had forgotten about quote unquote forgotten about the first time around a hundred names I don't even remember ports and I think over the investigating committees are looking into whether the trump campaign data operation yes jared Kushner ran us you know we don't know it it could be it could be a real legal case you cannot be in legal jeopardy but it seems like it certainly the potential is there right yeah it's it hundred people that I met with like Liz this year right and that's a hundred foreign nationals right right sorry yeah one hundred four nationals showed up with a flash drive with hurricanes three three thousand emails the trump campaign would've used them they were I mean that's what they do when they they brought in the campaign manager I see statute that you reference could affect that but they were they were certainly willing to collude and the trump donald trump junior's explanation this is so fucking revelations are more PR problems legal problems and if he makes progress with his Middle East peace efforts perceptions will be very different yes news we now have evidence that collusion was possible and they were open to it I mean I don't know that attempted collusion I don't think it's a crime although you could sex 'cause that's all everyone wants to ask about because of Kushner and if you why on that document you lose your job man my favorite is of course axios always One of axios as many White House sources is what do I like the legal opinion well they're outside couple of things about this I think it's worth to really put this in context the set of yes I'm sure jared has just one Middle East peace agreement away from sweeping this all under the rug can just help the trump white house and secrets yup and he still has access to that even though he lied about meeting several times with members of the Russian and the senior most campaign aide trump's two stops top strategists to the meeting this wasn't just like a bunch of flunkies this was the brain trust I use it well did you notice in the New York Times story last night they said that of course like it jared had to go back to his SF eighty six we keep using that term that's the that's what on a share intelligence with us with the United States they have forever because they feel rightly so that the trump administration may be Lawrence yes we've talked before I assume you talk about in the pod but I basically running like a full-time explainer course on the it would be you know jared PR person or jared himself or one of jared's most staunch defenders and so yesterday they said the view in Kushner's orbit is that the brutally government and in one of those meetings concocted a plan to communicate directly with Russia in ways in which the US intelligence committee gay community and you are potentially prosecuted one thing that does not happen if you lie on it is you get to keep your security clearance and it's worth noting two things IPAD delivered to him with the nation's top most classified deepest secrets wake plan to kill bin Laden you don't get off just because there was no money in the fucking vaults Mike we should we should have gone to law school they make sure that there isn't there no flags they are and you get to go work there and that's just to answer the phone Kushner every morning has an media outlets it's almost as if we didn't run an entire campaign where Hillary Clinton's handling of classified information was God urine big fucking trouble if you want to spend something say something like if you know he you know if Kushner is able to AH in law enforcement could not hear him that raises a flag to me yet and also it's no wonder why our allies like no longer off about jared Kushner security clearance to even say a word I like don't even do anything just say something like it is it is very concerning Etro Kushner p. operation was something if your measure for success in salvation is completing Middle East peace something that no president has done compromised and that the Russians may be listening to everything that they share with us and and I I don't blame them turns marketplace policy genius has placed over five billion dollars in life insurance for people like you they have a very simple user friendly website to shop and compare all the top rated life insurance company US yet they remain an adversary Putin wants to meddle in our elections again wants to do it in two thousand eighteen wants to do twenty twenty this means spreading fake news this means hacking into people's emails stealing people's emails stealing people's information spreading it around turning against each other exploiting the divisions in our country right like he's Geico is brought to you by policy Genius Life Insurance do you have it if you don't why not is it too expensive or a hassle if you don't have life insurance what would happen financially if something happened to the he wants to do this again and if we don't figure out what happened and who's responsible then he's going to be able to he's going to be able to keep doing this you know every person who goes to work in the White House even if they're an intern has to fill out an SF eighty six which is with were basically this this long document you the FBI looks in your background primary earner life insurance is good data protect the ones around you but where do you go to get the best prices on the best policy with the best service policy genius dot com the best online being until a few days ago of course said I had nothing to do with it Blah Blah Blah but we do know is that just hours after hours after the West Dot com zero jargon sales pressure or hassle life insurance made easy don't wait go to policy genius dot com today roll out some new regulations than he's on like picking picking achievable goal if your bullshit spin we should let us talk a little bit about Kushner security doesn't matter like you can just lie if you want about anything and we'll keep giving you the nation's you'll get the presidential daily briefing every day it's pretty scary I can't believe that not a sing or I got some questions for Tim about this but I just can't believe that no Republican is concerned meeting with Don Jr. Manafort Kushner and the Russian government attorney took place Donald Trump went out on the stump and promised publicly that he was going to get so the other question what trump now right what did trump now and when did he know it so trump in an interview yesterday denied knowing about this all see genus dot com today to save over forty percent off other prices for life insurance when Life Insurance Compete for your business you save money that's P. 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N. certainly obvious it's mine bag of course of course donald trump junior or jared Kushner or Paul Manafort in the moment which I believe they did in the we've been talking about Russia in the campaign for a year now uh-huh and he never gives the speech so that's that's that's quite interesting now yeah I'm interested in that they treated as a threat to the republic right right I do remember that look I mean not people like Oh enough Democrats as and give you the best options they have a licensed customer service team to help find you the best policy at the best price while you're there check out their other insurance offerings like pet insurance that he still has that clearance because it suggests that the entire I mean maybe he's of Russian double agent but also suggested the entire process is the you like the level of guiltier even if they didn't succeed in the things they were doing is so with Russia it's an investigation let it play out Blah and like I know I always like to talk about how this actually why this matters going forward by this affects people's lives like Russia's not done with a major speech on quote all the things that have taken place with the Clintons in a couple of days and he said it will be very interesting hopefully the press will be there and then the day do you think the the League is here I've done a lot of thinking about this okay and it's jared Kushner obviously it is one hundred percent jared Kushner really the painting this and gave the document to Iran Changes SF eighty-six which the key which the investigating committees have I believe and trump about this meeting it is in it is impossible to imagine they did not it just it is is impossible in even if they didn't tell him Dan at no point in that time did someone to bring up hey we built with someone representing the Russian government promising information on Hillary even if you were innocent you would talk about that Camila himself number two all these New York Times stories it says the sourcing is three people in the White House keep saying three people close to the White House you know I have no idea I mean like I dunno Ho- picks hasn't been in any of these stories so few people flying that theory she's the people in the White House so who and and it's and there's now reporting that they are so angry inside the White House and they're wondering who the traitor is and who has been leaking all this so who who the best I don't know whether they gave the email the email might be in the hands of the committee I don't know but Kushner's people worked to frame the story because us from worse things to happen like Dina Powell or someone like that but I don't I don't know so to say we better figure out a way to get that out and make sure people you know under understand the context of it in so it's it's of course they told them of course they told them so look other question is Evans I fake news fake news right that's the that's what Fox all of them are going to say number one you know Donald Trump junior so my theory here is they didn't practically to say hey you know it'd be fun on Saturday let's leak this they know their time working on this for a long time right and it the idea that we would even presume that they didn't when they why all the time is so fucking ridiculous to me well and also jared Kushner because Kushner now can't say he didn't know about the email of the meeting or didn't know what meeting he was going to because there's a four page email that says the whole thing that he's on but Kushner's attorneys hey I it does not make me feel good this is positive America stick around more great show coming your way pods the story puts all of this on Donald Trump junior and we forget about Kushner he's like he was I believe it was Kushner's attorney where does this go from here sorry you shared with me yesterday there are a couple of Democrats could former Democratic staffer IKA positive America is brought to you by pro flowers predictability is boring surprises are exciting pro flowers makes it easy for you to surprise someone right now eh Kushner's seventy five spoke people in the White House Kushner's outside PR person Trying to take a story they knew was coming in frame and in a way that was best who filed an invasion of privacy lawsuit against trump and Roger Stone accusing them of conspiring in the release of hacked emails the suit was organized by protecttomorrow Chrissy which is made up of some former Obama lawyers friends of ours and this lawsuit is basically all about discovery right if they if they sue for this painted and so we could learn a lot more than we are from the Republican run Congressional committees what do you what do you think about the blessed I think this is a this is a very she's the only one we haven't heard about any of these stories I don't know what the motive is there though it could it could be it could be one of the people who we've been told are trying to protect all of them a judge can do what the congressional committees have refused to do so far which is allow witnesses to be deposed campaign emails and other documents to be AH I don't know why it was jared Kushner when the email shows that the whole thing was forwarded to jared Kushner Paul Manafort so it's just it's implicated implicates for Kushner and that came at the expense of Donald Trump junior well we shall see it's a it's a good I mean I could see it I could see it I may be looking for a good attorney because I think I think roan is getting the subpoena someone's bring in Rona to figure out what she what she's going to have to say about the whole thing new that so kushner attorneys found the email when they went looking right were documents so they've known about this for a long time they've been in remember that line from the e mail routes as I could I could send this information directly to your Father Rona seems like basis with his assistant for basis if I'm Ronan thanks for all of us to watch because it's been thought of in a very smart way which is one of the challenges all these things is standing like who who is the actual grounds to sue and we have people whose privacy was violated through these leaks the it's it's pretty clear in the case in the plaintiffs here that the so and I think each one of these things you know the these investigations put tremendous stress on an already they are and so everyone of these puts more pressure on them in every time someone is interviewed under oath then full conspiracy theories on Fox Democrats Setup Donald Trump junior they planned this whole thing yeah so doesn't doesn't seem like things are going well for them but one one place where things are going well and everything seems copacetic and wonderful is ends from Republican media Donald Trump giving an interview yesterday where he said my son oil he tweeted my son. Donald did a good job overstaffed White House and even a fully staffed competent White House is under tremendous pressure from these things and so this understaffed collection of Nimrods the land of Fox News the conservative Media the Republican media as you say so let's the reactions from trump from a republican last scandal that really sort of rocked Washington before this was the Valerie Plame scandal and back in the Bush administration when this is no big deal and this is overblown and summer just punting and saying well we'll see what the committee say but not a lot of courage there and then in some way shape or form they are exposing themselves to tremendous legal jeopardy unless they tell the exact one hundred percent accuracy within you know the the able for that damage and because civil suit there's a lower bar here there's discovery and it's a it's a very interesting way to get to the bottom happened so the more that's happening I think the more chance we have for something for the Bush folks step step in a stepping in trouble last night he was open transparent and innocent he also called him high quality just always a phrase you use for your children we'll see a pet care is he parachute she what happened here on a perhaps more expedited time line that might happen through the much longer much more opaque muller process the person who ended up going to jail for that did not go for leaking classified information they went to jail for obstructing justice and lying to the special prosecutor in so that's usually where these things the bush the Bush administration was accused of leaking the that Valerie played that Joe Wilson a guy who Bush critic that his wife was a CIA agent and we're currently working in the White House a really pressure for they are responding to Muller the respond to the Senate intelligence me the House Intelligence Committee the Senate Judiciary Committee just sent a letter asking for Donald trump junior it's like what is that it's something congressional Republicans we're GonNa talk to ten more about this when he's not here but like it just you know a fewer it ranges from a few who are concerned and said they wouldn't have taken the meeting to some who said Yeah I would have taken the meeting and testify you have muller you have now you have a couple of these lawsuits here and so they are responding to document requests they've responded to deposition request Oh oh Bama let the lawyer into the country in the first place what about the Ukrainian meddling in the u pick pick your crazy fucking theory it's all right there on fire in spies yes it was an undercover mission to identify Russian spies on behalf of the the government basically wow good job good job junior is a hero I didn't know that so look I mean when we see again when we see like polls couple of weeks from now how shows that like thirty five forty percent of the country doesn't think there's anything wrong doesn't Donald Trump junior did anything wrong doesn't think there's anything to Russia collusion it's because those people are primarily getting their news from Fox and Breitbart and Info wars and rush limbaugh and all the rest who suggested incorrectly that commes memos contained classified information and you know there's nothing like more than two walks and shy they go ahead my favorite was not on Fox Alex Jones which was that trump junior was accomplishing the mission of outing Seasonal Fox and friends tweets about it turns out the whole thing is wrong after twenty four hours of talking about it Fox News spins five or just continuing to peddle propaganda for the state because that's what they do there's been a couple of interesting samples this so there was a hill story which spent twenty four hours talking about this about Oh look Jim commes in trouble do not look at the Russian collusion happening over here Donald Trump tweets the fox or dead Ed propaganda outlet and you by showing on the everyday you abide by a specific process to make America dumber so the coke brothers Walson ship but I don't understand how if you are a journalist and even a conservative journalists right you believe that all these other outlets are biased against him second saying Oh that was wrong like and I don't we say all the time like there are these there are some real journalists who Arkansas talks bullshit I will give I will give Chris Wallace the one exception for espe- but SHEP Shep yet yes fine how what they do is not horrendous for the country I would love to hear it but it's bullshit they are I was thinking about this yesterday I'm to be leaker ray so Fox News Ran With that story Fox and friends particular Fox the Fox Morenz twitter account tweeted about it skins for years and years and years and nothing will stop them from doing it and they do it for money and they do it for ratings and there is no ideology the people who run it you know they have been engaged in trying to lie and Brainwa- lied to and brainwash I angry and afraid and it is so poisoned our country I just I don't even know if someone can figure out a project to figure out how to get people to stop walks and don't read other news outlets because they've been told they're all fake why would they believe anything different and it's not just the voters and the nations is because they get pressured by a base that has been told by Fox News all kinds of crazy conspiracy theories and that's end because these people get their news primarily from site includes like the White House that includes the House Republicans and includes all the politicians we talk all the time I think that the people at Fox News and the people in the country who watch Fox the only TV station allowed in almost every Republican congressional office Max News it is and Putin invaded Crimea Fox ran twenty four seven about how Obama was two weeks to take on Putin this horrible threat Oh damaging and I do believe that there is room for concert a conservative journalistic enterprise hatched it's not like they believe certain things it's not about partisanship it's just about They just that's how that's how they get the ratings that they've they get people coaching Fox News then we would all be better off if there if there were if Fox News ceased to exist tomorrow the country would instantly start improving eruptive propaganda outlet that is they create an alternative reality where it is okay to collude with Russia with no regard for the facts because when I was in the White House got their policies and Rupert Murdoch and his sons can get rich that's what it is and if someone is if there is a a quote unquote real journalist on Fox who wants to explain I don't think there's a group of people in this country that I have more antipathy towards then the people who work at Fox News I'd that's a TV station or anything like that I am okay with that like I I do understand the idea behind Fox News in the beginning what the members watch exclusively where they get all their information it is where the staffers get there for information it is where they believe the things they are saying tree who had whose whose interests or her life experiences are not covered by that and and they're so there is a place for but that is not what as trafficking and conspiracies and like and flip flopping so insanely like Fox does just based on whatever you know the trump line of the a new bill out this morning so to summarize the whole thing I'll say this basically the biggest problem servivce or they don't cover Kosovo's whatever that is but you see I it is not that is not journalism it happens there I don't care if you're real journalist you were of Medicaid coverage and subsidies for people to buy insurance on the individual market basically now in this new bill left certainly I was on the left none of them with an audience as big as fucking Fox do anything like Fox you know and it's it's just gross Lawrence O'Donnell Rachel Maddow Chris Matthews you'll have a bunch of Republicans now on that station in the Liberals on that station will they are the opioid crisis few other things and it might total up to near four hundred billion dollars that's still means that there are days it's right there they are conservative media trumpet Fox's Republican Media Yeah it's bad okay let's talk about health care onic blowhards like Eric bolling telling people that collusion is not a crime it is just and it is so we were reliving rocky four twenty four seven on Fox News and now it's like who wouldn't take a meeting with Putin the whole thing is fucking crazy have anything like that we have and we should we have liberal great we shouldn't we have on MSNBC we have a host of shows who are liberal. Chris Hayes I just I can't emphasize this enough because like all these Republican politicians the reason they take such cowardly positions one of the one of the big reasons they take such cowardly a better CBO score they could have taken all that extra money and plowed into Medicaid instead they plotted into like some of the subsidies there's like an basically Fox people with preexisting conditions and people who need essential health benefits and need things like cancer treatment and maternity care and turns companies slush fund that's reinsurance and hoping that re- that insurance companies will use the money to lower premiums for people they use it for health savings accounts which basically money into Medicaid to stop some of these horrible Medicaid cuts but they didn't do that and the biggest problem that the wavering Republican senators had with the Iranian for at least all the journalists that work there I can't speak for the people who blog on the site but all the journalists who worked there some of the better journalists and in politics in any other outlet on the left or most other outlets on Ed crews and Lee and didn't do anything on the Medicaid Front to help people like Collins and Heller and Murkowski ambulance rides and doctor's visits and all that kind of stuff paid for because they're sick or because they have preexisting conditions so he attacked far right they don't think the Russia the Mo much of the reasons why Republicans are not freaking out on on Capitol freaking out about Russia is there are watching Fox News and more before we who who ran Medicare and Medicaid from the Obama administration has been following this closely before we started recording this you know he basically said look if they really wanted to bridge people can use anyway and so they didn't actually take all the money that they save from keeping the taxes in place if they really wanted a better CBO score they would have put that capital in Portland and all these people who worried about Medicaid cuts and that's that's where we are right now this is sort of perfect parable for grows and look I separate Fox to places like national review and plays like that which I vehemently disagree with and think are wrong about a whole bunch of things but they don't necessarily spend their day MM bill eight hundred billion dollars seven to eight hundred billion dollars worth of cuts to people's coverage Like we said before this is probably GonNa take so it's it's and what they what he did do when McConnell did do to try to get Ted Cruz and Mike Lee Onboard was to add this cruise amendment which right of your party or you can go hard right and McConnell went hard right with the belief that if he could get the hard right for their coverage and and I think it's interesting as you point out that they didn't fix the Medicaid right they they could with the healthcare bill as it stands now is that it cuts one point two trillion dollars in healthcare coverage for people right and so that is to go because the vote count seems very challenging but per the fabric rule of never betting on the integrity good Wolf Republican members of Congress Mitch McConnell has kept some of the taxes on high income people but not all of them some of them added a couple billion for opiates the Republican Party in the modern era is you have a set of their two weeks ago here you could compromise you get you could try to appeal to the center for those who need real insurance and not ship Burger insurance which doesn't cover anything you know still lifetime limits get cruising lay he could pressure the moderates to giving in to do what he wants to do which is how the house bill passed and instead of trying this really wasn't exercise too throw together some bullshit talking points for people maybe like Portman or Capito to say that they got something for their states in the OPIOID bunny but no bill the one that Republican senators who are so far against this bill is the cuts to Medicaid and he didn't do shit about the cuts to Medicaid will then more working people would get healthcare and that was not okay and so I think it is it is hard to see where this is going people and that worries me well so nothing was done to improve Medicaid cuts at all nothing was done to improve subsidies for older Americans of Buchan travesty and he's voting against it and it was still obamacare and you know unless he sees a completely new different bill he's voting against it and he wasn't even on board with the bill even if the cruise amendment was amended so it does seem that Rand Paul is is a no Susan Collins said if nothing is done to the Medicaid cuts I will the CBO score from twenty two million uninsured to like eighteen million uninsured. That's just that's the best guess I've talked to Andy Slavic who does that Dean Heller voted no on emotion to proceed on the last version of the bill so someone just has dean Heller this morning as he went into the lunch with McConnell gets to offer their amendments to the bill and we either vote in the amendments are we vote them down and then we take a final vote you have to get their first and and Collins and Paul this or for low income Americans so that's a problem to the cruise amendment would result in massive premium increases that would be the easier way to do this and certainly the more compassionate way to do it but you couldn't do that because if you re if you pared back some of the Medicaid cuts emergency annual limits back in place so they can put a cap on how much coverage you get if you're really sick it's really bad so the question is now what happens well ever bided by it but the idea that look all the news decisions are made by a bunch of people who are almost certainly liberal who live in L. A. New York and DC and there's large swaths of the of the Rand Paul who again I said we still can't count on these right wingers here but rand Paul basically wrote an op Ed yesterday that he published in Breitbart that said that the bill is her from one Steve Wynn fucking casino magnet in Las Vegas who owns the wind hotels and is basically making all kinds of threats to Dean Heller We should be very worried and I think it's worrisome that McConnell extended the recess two weeks and two additional weeks to beat the hell out of people to pain donations to an opponent so that's where Dean Heller is right now and you have to think about Dean Heller Calculus right because he might be at the point where he's thinking fuck I'm damned if I do damned if I don't are you undecided are you still undecided on whether you're GonNa vote for motion to proceed any said yes I'm still undecided I've heard the Dean Heller getting tremendous tremendous pressure we're staying in then Lindsey Graham John Cassidy have put out their own plan today which was more service straight repeal plan Bob the BUIL- meaner the critique of the bill was even though it was devastating for healthcare too many people got to good healthcare out of it so we had to change I'm GONNA lose in two thousand eighteen either because I have some Republican primary opponent that trump and win sick after me or Democrats going to beat me and any points more popular than he is Governor Sandoval who hates this bill and his against it and Steve Wynn the casino magnet who you know will could could bury him in all kinds of key she's voiced some real concerned about this bill so she's possibly gettable as a no and I guess capital and maybe Portman I don't know there might be a few others out there. The leadership about the Medicaid provision in the new bill any bill in the new bill and she was backed by Hove who's very close to the Senate leadership so that was that's the case then he's got nothing to lose than you have to figure out like you know does he vote against this bill because he thinks it's the right thing to do is vote for it because then maybe trump makes him an ambassador somewhere w now and I am not just they're not just knows their nose on the motion to proceed a motion to proceed basically says all right let's get to a process where everyone these conversation she's having back home in Alaska that really You know forcing her to really question this bill wonder if she's GonNa vote for it and so I would just say it so terrible for the overall score they might have like their own partisan organization score the bill which is fucking bullshit so they're going to try you're GonNa you know put money into a primary opponent and all that kind of stuff so dean Heller is now caught between he's own Republican governor who's about just that fact too many cancer patients would be covered and so that was somehow offensive to some number of Republican senators and so we had to make sure that more cancer patients would not be able to like all the pressure everyone who can pressure Susan Collins to remain annot Dean Heller everyone gets to Nevada could be very impressive and impactful I think on the state of play it has it's working I mean Murkowski was saying that an interview the other day with a reporter that it was like and and Murkowski I really think that's that's where this goes and look we just heard to that McConnell might not have the CBO score the cruise amendment because it would be I think McConnell fixed in this building by cassidy so those are not guaranteed knows but it is interesting they felt compelled to release their own plan at the same time economies releasing his so this is a maybe a foul started. I don't know I'm not enough to remember the early days of Fox but it is a destroyed we're getting down to it so keep up the pressure when we come back we will talk to Republican communications grew to Miller this is positive America stick around right and so right good point it's just not they're not necessarily knows on the on the McConnell plan I think it is like this people in Nevada Call Nevada Nevada Nevada I know their comments off halfway through anyway get their pressure Dean Heller retry the book to just basically so chaos and confusion so that no one knows what's going on and they can just vote in this thing as fast as possible and tell members like but he is a bad person Senate he is what he is a walking talking reason why Americans hate politics it's pretty bad okay so everyone and here's this great stuff coming lots of great stuff pods of America's brought to you by Ziprecruiter are you hiring do you know where to post your job to find the best candidates with Ziprecruiter Yeah I guess we got to the part where I said I wanna I wanNA talk about Fox because I'm really pissed we got there and there's there's just there's no colon on the left we just don't that later which is just the height of cynicism McConnell is not a good person he's just not I mean let's be fair maybe he's a good person when he's not in the Senate and keep it up keep it up because you know we're we're close but we are by no means out of the woods just yet and this is actually the time you could argue where most dangerous for this thing to pass because you're like what is Dean Heller do but we should also point out that Murkowski is also very upset with this with the fact that there's no changes to Medicaid such crooked that's ziprecruiter dot com slash crooked one more time to try it for free go to ziprecruiter dot com slash cricket on the and better 'cause I th I believe McConnell fixed there's a specific Louisiana issue around hospital funding that you can post your job to one 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twenty four hours not worked over where this is going the only thing we can do is continue to call offices sit in offices and be as engaged people been for the last few weeks which has been awed today we have one of the original friends of the pod from way back in the keeping sixteen hundred days our favorite token Republican Tim Miller Tim Welcome juniors meeting which you know is just for opposition research obviously you've done a lot of opposition research in in your time in politics well at least they're saying we're not even letting you get there so now if one more Republican senator says they will vote no on a motion to proceed this thing's debt and so the question Houston rally they're based on facts you can quibble them with them you can disagree with them you can say some things are unfair that they say but they are based in reality they're based in fact so is the Huffington Post Donald trump junior and jared and that crew as as I thought it was possible and if I come on the pod last week and you guys had said rush Russia and a government support for Mr Trump and one of these guys would reply great I love it I I would have told you that was conspiracy talents I I mean it is you know it's getting down to it yes a couple of other notes on this one John Hoven of North Dakota went so mccaskey sit up in the Republican yesterday and was very you know accepting information elicited formation for foreign governments and you're trying to you know a run for the highest office in the country but but just putting that aside hey guys tim welcome back to the pod thank you good to be with you I did some googling I was on episode three of keeping US sixteen hundred I feel like I'm the Oh gee this isn't any foreign government awesome Switzerland that they were getting information in Russia actively is attempting to undermine the US all you usually get stuff from four nationals is that that that's something that you usually do or would you advise Would you advise Jeb Bush or Jon Huntsman or any of your Republican candidates right now I live far away for trump hotels possible back out of hiding with Yoga okay so let's talk about is just so far beyond you know what what I thought to even be imaginable that it's shocking to me that you know people on geopolitical foe I think we're a little off their standby well thank you for that humility does I guess we've all been humbled a little bit you know look I'm I'm I'm willing to say that in two thousand twelve when we all scoffed at Mit for saying that G Russia was our number one you're out walking to the airport the other day with a guy and a friend of the pod shirt he walked right by me three times I kind of wanted to shake him and get my recognition looped into taking the meetings Ted Yoho said he probably would have done the same thing more respectable Republicans like Bob Corker said the new developments don't concern him Orrin Hatch said it's overblown all are even trying to kind of brush it off You know I mean I think that you know obviously there is a foreign government play here you know and such a meeting yeah for all the news to the pod I actually started opposition research firm called America Rising Republican opposition research firm deep hiding late last year after Donald Trump won I basically just watch Manchester by the sea on repeat minch of of what government should look like the idea that you would take help from these guys I is it's just my mind boggling I don't have the language to I'm so you know I I I know my way around this and I have to tell you guys like I have as little regard for context on this I hope I'm not taking out of context but they said the trump should considering bombing Russia and I enjoy I welcome all of you now that you guys were sick but I guess in yeah no credit for the third episode and you've been in hiding ever since I've been in I've been let's talk some sample reactions from Republicans on these latest developments you get deputy Gop Marsha Blackburn said that a junior might have been Democrats or the neo-con fold in recognizing our threat. I don't know if I'm ready for that but okay Paul so wants everywhere in the world the Russians on on every fundamental American value and against us they want to remake the world in their niche and in the Chinese had you know man we're hearing are crazy liberal circles that there's an email where somebody writes this is obviously sensitive information but it's part of the suffered damage from it and it'll be up to the court to determine whether through the through the process to determine whether the trump campaign was around the world that was Republican one of our top complaints about y'all's old buff that is that you know he wasn't standing up to Russia where it's where it was trying to undermine our over the last year in our predictions but yeah yeah I think you guys are a little bit off that one Clare Nice to have everybody on the team I just saw right before I got on the Paul Begala I haven't seen it McConnell and Ryan both dodged the question basically I've only counted John McCain Lindsey Graham Susan Collins and some random Republican congressman I hadn't heard of that said that this was really problematic and they you know they want to testify and all that kind of stuff like what's going on with the party man how much time do we have on this week kind of like trying to ignore the crazy uncle who happens to be the president of the United States and I I mean that is you know what but that is what's driving these guys in Washington reactions to this but you know just explaining what are they saying privately about this White House and trump and and just the idea that they are carrying water for this guy many of I assume it and I recognize that I support for that I'm GonNA disagree with the pod listeners neal gorsuch and you know I'd like to see tax reforms so the country down the tubes but like you I mean at least today's podcast you have water Republican friends what Republicans like the ones that work on Capitol Hill or others wise driving it doesn't use it I get the political calculus for why these people lose rollicking members You know who was the most loyal viewer of the apprentice there's a poll I saw that asks Republican voters who they'd rather have as president trump or pence I like to see deregulation but we're in a new this is a whole new ballgame here and you have to respond to you know the facts of of what's happening in support for Donald Trump You know there I you know I've seen a lot of private polling data and and the reality is that Republican base want unadulterated you know the greatest example of this is Ted Cruz gave his vote your conscience speech at the Convention his internal polling had him dropped support for trump you're seeing this in the Alabama Senate primary right now where there's basically just a big fight between all the potential candidates on who loved Donald Trump the most did you know Adam privately and then move on I mean the pig the overwhelming feeling among my peers in Washington right is you know we want to get our agenda so you know what what what what does that get you you know that doesn't advance the ball in any way to to criticize them crookedly or kind of shake your head and it was three quarters for trump's over three-quarters trough and so that tells you you know with pens being this one generics with Republican voters forty points in three days or so I mean that's that's where that's where the voters so we could have a longer discussion about why that is we can kinda talk real talk but you know what the re what is happening in in what is driving that is a Republican voter uh kind of Republican that Ha- is trumpy you know I think that shows where the party is and so people are responding to voters what's driving all these reactions I think that probably fifty years from now for off the around good sociological study to be done on why an email as direct as the email to John Don Jr. director his response would come out and those responses would be the ones that you tell me everybody went along with this why people you know aren't Jacked I mean like I said earlier the idea that that that any of them did not like him before he won the nomination yeah nobody likes them before the nation you know privately they're saying he's a disaster but but Washington and and the fact that the rules are completely changed you know I think that there's this sense of going about business as usual in Washington and just and some of those guys you listed are not for lecturing for six years and where is the political courage to say okay you know I can walk and Chew Gum at the same time I can try to pass tax perform but also make sure that we investigate to ensure that the president's son and his son in law you know weren't directly colluding with our biggest enemy on the world stage I I I don't understand why that doesn't happen and you know historically there have been plenty of examples of politicians who have stood in the face of You know unpopular issues you know and and and and taken the right position despite its unpopularity and Before you before we called you we were just talking about how big of a role Fox News and Republican media plays into that calculation do you agree with that I mean do you think it's like you know that is largely absent right now for my party so I do want to talk about why you think that trump is still so popular with the base trump in his personal attributes that they'd get them going or do you think it's the sort of this ecosystem from where a lot of the base gets their news from or something else trump trump trump definitely tap into you know he's speaking to people who feel who felt like they hadn't but they like the fact that she has signaled to them and that that he cares about their issues and they felt like they were two parties in wash they weren't pinks spoken to before and fill a lot of these disagree with trump wants and issues disagree with trump on how you see the polls like only twenty percent of them like that he tweets and so I think that's a big part of it Fox News part of it but it's tribal as you know and I have a account today in the daily Beast about Hinton that we're not that we're not speaking on this big part of working class America this is not you know our peers my peers Republican establishment You know how we got here you know and one of the elements of it is you know what you're talking about with Fox News and you know it's not just reality TV show or no different from sports match so why are we surprised a reality TV show host and ended up taking advantage and so this on the elites are leading people to you know basically just just cast aside you know their concerns in order media they feel like they're alienated from mainstream news they don't see people that reflects their values they don't people in movies and TV and and you know they're angry about this tribalism you know that it's political and that its cultural you know of those without and fly over country the actor versus the coast you know cultural tribalism that is that is driving a lot of I get the political calculus Berkeley fight for their team and you know part of that is Fox News part of it is how they feel that they're alienated from you know the Liberal Fox's Ns it's twitter it's everybody and the way that they cover politics as you know again and as a sort of you know no different And so you know you need to have you know anthropologist on the next pod to explain exactly how got this how got this extreme but it's that these folks who are running for Senate and have primaries coming what advice would you give some of the Republican members of the

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Did you know that if you're hiring you don't have to wait for the right candidates to apply no that's because Zipper so a lot of the news and commentary over the weekend has been about the political fallout from trump's decision to recruiter is the smartest way to hire Dr Trump supporters are in favor of the policy simone what are those numbers say to you say to me I think we talked about it the other day the but it's too low that will fifty one percent of Republicans and sixty six percent of self to what's up the down calm down welcome to save America I'm John Fabbro immediately with quote no judges or court cases so now he's into suspending due process now I think it's okay because they view these immigrant children is not being their kid I bet my bottom dollar if they were if they were snatching away a little white babies that is correct about his people loving it a CBS battleground poll out today shows that seventy two percent of Americans are against separating families that's good times reported that one person close to the president said that he told advisers that separating families was the best deterrent to illegal immigration and that he said quote my people to try Ziprecruiter for free at Ziprecruiter Dot com slash crooked you get help finding your next great hire and your credit for sending you so good at Ziprecruiter dot com slash crooked today that's Ziprecruiter dot com slash crooked the tonight show we'll be talking to the CO chair of the Poor People's Campaign Reverend Dr William Barber the and we will be talking to the governor of the Great State of North Carolina Roy Cooper but yes so he continued his mission to appeal to his people on Sunday tweeting that undocumented immigrants should be sent back children away from their parents who were seeking asylum we can hit that that works so the from white mothers being breastfed on the border that number would be low but it also says to me that the trump supporters are sticking with the yeah we do single thing that he does they dig their heels in deeper which leads me know that they're not leaving donald trump so we should not be focusing on those voters I think folks need to focus on the base it could be booked on cable as a lawyer and I and I believe that's unconstitutional it does matter how you here you have certain rights so yeah it's scary it's also like it makes me think of what he might actually do in a time of an extreme crisis after nine eleven every autocrat on the planet declares a national emergency and suspend certain rights when things get really bad in the name of law and order or what have you and so I do think residents called for the suspension of due process and even if you think well he's talking about suspending due process for undocumented immigrants no no no what that means is that ice can basically eighty two win in the midterm elections so these numbers are going to keep coming out and folks are waiting with baited breath that these trump supporters are going to somehow turn away from the president and the we turn out the totality of the Democratic Base in the midterms and post midterms we will be okay but what happens when we have this conversation about these imaginary people is testing things out and if we're willing to spend due process for undocumented people then we have no idea who will be next so to go back to Simone's point about thing for seize your extra free time plant a garden enjoy lunch tar beige stroll learn the fortnight dance play fetch with your dog right now in our lives of the law in the pursuit of order and it's not a coincidence or surprised that he has starting with vocal people that are seen as other especially by his base it is you know Donald Trump it's not law and order judges are the law part if you don't have judges if you don't judge overseeing the execution of the laws it's lawless order it's just suspension call your mom listen to your favorite podcast level up on dark souls I'll because it will create it makes the hiring process streamline inefficient so what you know we we deal with this barrage of information and attacks him all day long but sometimes you have to stop and think holy Shit like that's very frightening suggestion wells on the list of like threshold activities voting donating knocking on doors three more steps about Brian Kilmeade I think it was on Fox News they basically said these aren't our kids and I think those numbers say to me that sixty at least sixty six percent of folks identify as trump supporter tailing toddlers. I don't know when you're leaving I would say we don't try and find out that line back to the tweet for a second because like tweets the angry things a day and were sort of used to it I mean he's talking about suspending due process I'm not a lawyer but I follow them on twitter which means anyone for any reason that they want to stop and say okay we're deporting you because WHO's GonNa stop them since there's no cases there's no judges and there's no due process on the way to the golf course if it is you shouldn't be that pissed if you're going to golf it's the biggest fucking story that happened today that the all political activist and she's a confederate monument activist conflicted trump supporter voters do not start political action committees that is uh you know who we should go after in the midterms Jeremy Peters of the New York Times decided this weekend to dive into a new genre of political reporting and went out and interviewed a bunch of with with trump the people that already don't like the president are going don't aren't GonNa like him any more any less but trump to win trump voters is not the way not very clear though they were not necessarily being transparent at the people they interviewed because one of the women that was interviewed that they talked about the top of one of these articles Gina Anders I do believe family separation is overblown and Jeremy's takeaway which he spelled out in a tweet in response to our friend John Love it was that quote a lot of Republicans are galvanized well so I bring this up because the theory of this particular trump voter piece of many is all these trump supporters said you know the reaction from the left trump voters because we still don't know what the fuck they know we've had so I am so over the new audio the excruciating audio of the little babies crying at the detention center and that was on purpose Fox didn't play for eight wows I just think of the things you can do in the time you save if I just had easy Chris Cillizza just think of all the things you can do in the time you save when you use ziprecruiter they said you know she made it seem like she was someone that could be persuaded if conflicted yeah like a party activists she hopes how much does it matter that trump has more republicans support right now than any president since George Bush after nine eleven how much them that audio and I think that anecdote doesn't show that they're dug in and that they're still for trump it shows that there's a state run media that is playing the feelings and so I think that's why it's really important because the president is popular with his base you cannot go and run solely against the president you have to starting a political action not a swing pack maker. I'm on the fence but I saw on the fence I care so much I'm starting to political group about it for them the most standard down varnished positive version of the trump world they can possibly show and until we can break through that Balkanisation of media we had some problems have to remind folks that the Republicans are literally in charge of everything and the couple of things that they got done undercut hardworking people across the country also that we think are going to somehow come back to the party that haven't been there in fifty years we're wasting our time if you're not leaving trump over separating children from their parents happen no matter what I think what what Jeremy in that article one anecdote he used that I thought was telling was that a lot of these people he was talking to you had not heard I'm John The people if you talk to people they'll say actually personally they do like donald trump which is crazy to me but when you ask them do they like their health care interview on me like all well maybe perhaps a winner over coming around trump few she helped create a Super Pac pac she was a big Ron part-time their opinion pages commentary interviewing the trump voter we clearly know what the trip voted can we interview some black women can we GONNA be some young people zander's just to be honest with you but but I can't think of a single position that I hold to show them right like I was like I'm not regardless of what he does and so what you have to do is run on the issues and turn out the folks that are enraged by what's going on that are upset about the lack of their healthcare and hang wacky Jackie and Pocahontas and then you had a Elizabeth Warren and Jackie Rosen talking about healthcare and taxes and also responding to trump I guarantee you that right now which is the Herculean task the unending task of responding to trump at the level that trump argues with us which we have to do every single day so telling people that these liberals have lost their mind because what do they see they see as Tommy said a sanitized version of trump and then they also see the worst part of what it is to be a liberal electorally for Democrats I don't know I don't necessarily know if it matters much because if you talk to people I spent a lot of groups going I have the opportunity to travel and talked Ozzie I'm on Fox News or right wing radio can exacerbate things and make make people remind them that they feel aggrieved because they weren't told five minutes earlier on Fox that they're aggrieved but I think that's going to is but what they see what they see as an angry radical left so tommy is that way fifty one percent of Republicans support trump policy of taking children away from their parents to own the lips it's a baby they liked the idea that children are being separated because it will piss off liberals sure they're all these cultural grievances that I think when they're played the original question I think trump was in Nevada yesterday right like I'm over the New York Times and they're profiling the trump voter I'm talking the same voters yet for they they yeah you know it's like somebody declared a culture war I don't believe it was us and then there are very bothered when we decide not to go down without a fight in in credit to Germany has this piece by the way down at the bottom it also says that recent polls show that the number of people who identify to care for all to make Sarah Huckabee Sanders sad right and like I don't think any person is room can think position they hold because they wanNA show Ben Shapiro Brock Obama in two thousand twelve and I love to talk to some of them because that's pretty fucking crazy but I'd like to hear what they have to say there's also people who voted for another very interesting group of people people who the portion where they attacked the Republicans on healthcare did not air on Fox News so the papers so there's no surprise that hardcore conservatives why as Republicans has shrunk about two percent since two thousand seventeen you are having a party that's leftover that is more support donald trump ever before but you have fewer registered Republicans then you probably had it any time in history right now so that's the good news it's a it's a baby boomer supernova issues that's what these numbers to be our constant reminder of you're not going to get folks that already like president trump not to like him regard is crazy that's pretty angry about the conduct of Paul Ryan and Sean Spicer and Sarah Huckabee who's boss you know it's nonsense but what is true that I look at trump and we'll get you had trump doc can we find actual independent voters like the links to whip the New York Times is contorted self to see like Oh i the white supremacist we need really need Campaigning with Dean Heller Dirty Dean Heller dirty or in the Senate and the reason that Dean Heller sucked it up and campaign with them is because okay just to be clear I don't know if the message that we need to excite our base to win over some of these Obama trump voters they like the fact that you know zillionaires billionaires are getting better tax cuts them do do they like the state of their education that can be all these things on the line they have some voted for Barack Obama in two thousand twelve and chose not to vote in two thousand sixteen or voted for third parties in two thousand sixteen so there is this universe and people are in here we need to vote this trump is wildly popular among Republicans and he knows that midterm election so to kind of stuck with them one question is are there swing voters do they still exist because I still think yeah I think what I'm looking for one of these pieces one day is you can you can interview trump voters interview the interview Obama trump voters the people who voted in to win over some of these Obama non-voters is all that different if not because look at connor lamb in Pennsylvania Governor Lamm one because people who voted for Donald Trump votes black voters just like we talked to working people who were also women shocker too many Democrats with their heads up the angels of these kinds of messages you know they like they are scared that if they did if they talk about immigration that if they talk about black people that they talk about reproductive autonomy for women that they're going to lose the they love farm to fork farm-to-table cuisine in Lexington Virginia the there's too many Democrats who approach swing voters like Indiana Jones trying to figure out the right way of sands to switch out the amulet more bass people this is a persuasion and turn out election all across the country but not just persuading these small typically Obama voters can constitute eight percent of the electorate everybody with a pre existing condition which is basically everyone in this room so those are the things that folks should be talking about and that is not someone opposed to trump this time over the weekend it was it was Sarah Huckabee Sanders being asked to leave the red hen restaurants pardon and murdered it with a boot not the olive garden bring olive garden trump says or does something extreme cruel racist inhumane whatever conservatives and various pundits will make a big fucking deal out of some reaction it you know and it's like just grab it and run the boulder is coming so it does seem like every tailored methods that we have to pull out of the of the Democratic Party to talk to them with we can talk to them about the economy just like we talked to lat next voters just like we talked to there's there's this this idea that we have to that there's the specialized message just for these Obama trump voters swing voters that do this in some places but there's who basic reactions to this very dumb story from the pundit class the first reaction was whatever happened to civility for connor lamb and a bunch of democratic base voters got out and voted for Connor Connor lamp but swing voters do so to your point swing voters absolutely do exist but there is not a specialized twenty sixteen which doesn't sound like a lot of fifty six million people voted for Donald trump so you know whatever so we're talking about but only eight percent so we their morals so sanders then tweeted about the incident from her White House account and saying that she always tries to Russia but the end of the day they want to be able to put more money in their pockets put more food on the table to feed their families they want to keep their healthcare they are tired that the Republicans keep attacking the eight percent kings get lumped in with the base of the Democratic Party but we have to take we have to take the issues that people care about that they're talking about the kitchen tables and they not talking about you know some people respectfully yes we've noticed that's what comes across and and then it says more about the owner of the restaurant than about her it seems like they were one of these swing voters that they really needed to push them over the line and the fact of matter is if we learned anything for the Public Party the Republicans give zero fs about like the Democrats the media has to stop being scared and they have to be willing to call it what it is without this attempt to both sides it there is no both sides too everybody listening to call that when we see it and to not let the quote unquote both sides bullshit remain because there is no both sides to any of this there really isn't he's leaving she then paid for their cheese plate which I thought was nice but why is there a tendency to equate nastiness name calling ever with policies that are racist I'm not advocating that people are putting out of their restaurants or anywhere else I wanna eat it to be clear but that's why I want mind white supremacist think about what's going on now we really needed to another profile in the trump because I'm really not sure do they really think so tablet at the way the kids I don't I don't really know they got that in avengers civility war that was a good movie civility so important why the owner says so the owner said her employees were uncomfortable sanders dining there and that quote this feels like a moment in our democracy when people have to make uncomfortable actions and decisions when I get home tomorrow and the person that the thing tells me they want me to leave because they don't like the fact that I called Donald trump white supremacist but you know the owners have are are are concerned with appearing that they're not for one side of the particularly the media because they have been under attack by the president because they are often you know are okay with saying that understanding that we can talk about racing also still talk about the economy which also has something to do race hello okay but the moment we understand people he's calling everybody fake news allies calling people fake news and so there's this tendency from the media to make sure zip presenting all sides of the situation but at some point anything they will go out there and I just want them Democrats to give the EPS and go out there for what we say we believe and Democrat there's too many there's I with authoritarianism like why can't why can't people in Washington get these things aren't equivalent pundits who was not one television this weekend there's no arguing with with the fact that what this White House and his administration is doing has a very blatant racial line these are love to you know whatever happens civility yeah donald trump hit in the back of the head with a two four and then dragged it behind it all yeah we can have a fuller and more high level conversation but too many people in the media don't understand that like they are just talking about like I don't understand I don't know I want you to be black or Latino for days let's talk about this that's why she tweeted about it and kicked up the level of outrage right in the press is more than happy to talk about it because it's a lot easier than talking about complicated like racism and why there's not other side to racism white supremacy and me saying hey I would like you to leave my restaurant that to be clear I am trying to go to shake shack takes some some crazy message from the corner of the main message and I just wish people would get into their brains but the fact of the matter is we want to be frank focus scared Democrats across the country so I wasn't part it's funding class excited aren't you where'd you happy to be here with that was very happy to be here I think the problem is that so many people are talks about talks about look kinda looking past the immorality of foul language or and fidelity to the far greater immorality the policy choices that are getting made and kicking down in beating down on people who are in the worst position and so that's why I get so frustrated with policy things in the White House knows that they have a horrible policy problem to tell and we're gonNA talk to him tonight but you guys should youtube a bunch of reverend barbers sermons and speeches tendency why is there this tendency to think to equate nastiness and name-calling although there wasn't even nastiness in this situation it seemed like she was very respectful broadside astor in detention center if he's not calling Norway Shit whole country you know this is this is absolutely about race in the moment that we is the most powerful person in this country last night ninety nine point nine nine nine nine nine percent of restaurants serve Democrats and Republicans about which stories we choose to blow up in which we we started this show by talking about the United States threatening to suspend due process today king little children and he's an awful person but that is sort of born of a policy choice where someone eats dinner is not a problem that Washington needs to solve this is this is this is an issue the congressional reporters that want to be able to continue to walk into the Republican leadership offices and that's what this is really about and so it takes people like US folks like you all the Bergamot but I do think that the Resistance Timothy for folks to what to retain their access the White House reporters I thought people talking about politics on television have thought about the relationship between politics and the actual physical world made of earth and you know water and bone that like civility isn't the opposite of cruelty some of the most heinous acts in history have been conducted by I don't want I don't WanNa talk clapping for lack of a boat we'll be clear ain't no pats on the back for your lack of a boat in two thousand sixteen the poll in two thousand eighteen civil bureaucracies and the opposite of manners isn't disrespect even on Sarah Huckabee his own terms she is disrespectful in that briefing room nothing sound is the politics of of how things will be perceived rather than what actually happens and that's a really so it's no wonder that this gets blown up more than what trump said we're only having a conversation because the conversation about civility only comes up when conservatives bring it up and that goes back to how Democrats and people on the left always mm standard she fails but but it's not a surprise that this gets blown up in our politics because so much of our politics now is about symbolism it's about how things look uh yet this the every once in a while an incident like this happens Robert Deniro says something in speech tics were civility is elevated more than the actual manifestations of the policies that vary civil people polite people like Mike Pence and Sarah Huckabee Sanders and John Kelly execute every single day so wait to be clear we only get to talk about civility treated well that's what we do every single day now that's what we do on twitter and facebook we just talk to and about each other so a politics all about talking about and to each other is and trump administration officials and they all ate together peacefully and it was fucking fine one person didn't go to a restaurant last night so I can be centers and well how do you go to a football game and be offended and walk out of it so they do this on purpose and then that goes to the second reaction from a lot of pundits which was dead and these debates because ultimately who cares where she didn't eat dinner it's not a it's not a problem of civility like Carlos on TV Sarah Huckabee Sanders doesn't get to eat at restaurants she wants to go to unlike its thousand takes and the first thing to know is the White House is about due process because what trump says about due process is ultimately only matters and how it manifests in the actual physical world but conversation about how people are talked about and how people are undertones these are not like dog whistles frigging bullhorns and at every single this is people always say why are you always WanNa make it about race because it is about race damage white people in one of our conservative friends are conservative frenemies feels wronged we never talk about civility when it's the snowflakes ended up having a conversation within the context of what Republicans want us to talk about the art again defining the conversation by making by bathing us and the media and in talking about Sir is and assembles reports just last week I think she said to Jim across like oh I know you don't understand short sentences yes I mean so so so by on her that's what we're going to talk with you that's what we're going to cry the end of civility like on it's on it's one thing that happens when you have these civility conversations realize just how little every single day she does it with a smile on her face with police into thank you but you just respects that building she disrespects that the White House you expect those reporters and she disrespects all of us when she huckabee sanders being denied you know her teeth Blake Mike Pence's had to go to Hamilton he just had a bad they booed him grads are never gonNa win if they keep kicking republicans out of restaurants that look like a we I'm sorry are we should we not nominate the owner of Red Hen they actively apply to your jobs we find quality candidates faster fact eighty percents of employers who post job recruiter get a qualified candidate through the site within the first day trip to figure out strategy I serving appetizers now we just democrats own everything everyone does around the country all this person felt something in in twenty twenty is that what we're fucking DNC memo like a memo owner redhead fucking conference call with the D I went better backstage we need to continue to do do what we are doing the else candidate said President Jeb Bush none of that works it doesn't stick but what works is when we point out how nasty their policies are we point out how is policy like that's the shit that's GONNA get fucked up in two thousand eighteen and if people WANNA go take action to get rid of trump and get rid of his administration line or do me I welcome you patriots practice that one S. most effective way to oppose trump and his policies and his administration I think look when people are out there doing errands on the weekends I think it's pretty simple when they go to lowe's we into believing all this other that's that's all these other things are happening so we changed our strategy our strategy is actually a pretty solid one that we could do better estate they ain't been the Durham okay so this is why people say those things like I hated when people talked about Deniro and they were like this is supposed to do what we shouldn't do get caught up in the trump trap and because he wants the call folks Pocahontas and Wacky Jackie where like you're you know you're the whatever whatever Democrats are gonNA do better in different point how they're lying that's the stuff that gets under donald trump's skin and so that's what we need to be focused on and then we need to call it the media about talking about the issues we could do a little bit from national level elevating unlikely voices and women and people of Color but across the board in states and midterm elections. We're doing everyone should be calling out all the folks that only talked about Jackie Rosen and Senator Warren in response Donald Trump said about them and not about the healthcare policy and the in actual midterm elections. These are people that don't even know anybody that's on the ballot they never knocked door you know they work like twenty years ago and now they sit on TV pontificating about haven't been out and the trip to Nevada on Saturday we got a preview of the two thousand eighteen campaign maybe even twenty twenty trump went to Nevada to Stamford Dirty Dealer Elizabeth Warren Winter June if you find a voter who's interviewed on Tuesday in two thousand six hundred eighteen and they walk out of that ballot box whatever they want they do it is knock on some doors make some phone calls register some people to vote like that's where to put your energy if you really and that's what most that's what most Democrats most liberals and most activists Dan he's jailing toddlers on the other hand that Democrat did not say anything about Samantha B I remember a time I remember a time when someone said please and thank you getting the child gotta that booth there like honestly I'm for Medicare for all but after that Red Hen woman I voted Republican all the way down gas lighting us on one back from the government we I do there's there is a question and in debate to be had around what is the whatever like we're not going to beat trump at that game like very he's a very dirty campaign dernie Donald Duck Donald Duck like none of that Shit Donald His opponent Democrat Jackie Rosen as as you guys mentioned were in rows and talks about healthcare and tax cuts and then trump called Warren Pocahontas. He called Rosen Wacky Jackie and he talked Publican's will have you think that we are losing all across the country we have actually been winning since twenty seventeen we've been winning they've been losing and so their strategy is literally the gas lighter the Democrats want violent gangs to take over the country which I which is so unfair because there was a debate about it and took it out of the platform in two thousand six I think I think trump there's a tendency when a president is unpopular or whether it was Bill Clinton in two thousand or Brock Obama during some in the midterms to say maybe this is just given given fire to the to the trump people I don't give a Damn Robert De Niro says he ain't in the inner workings of the Party like it is take my first Bush about this was destroyed campaigning with Dean Heller help Dean Heller or does it help Jackie Rosen around the country are actually doing off twitter though y'all can't beat out here with the twitter fingers and say that's worse I only sometimes follow all right let's talk about the present should stay away from races I think that's an an impossible strategy and probably a flawed one electorally because he's our turn out base elections and trump can it you know it was like it was pretty contentious but I feel like it was a good place Madison they're right next to the Red Planet it's part of the new part of the better deal if they can make this a referendum into about trump or the tax vote for example that could hurt him but I think like he's going to be out on the campaign trail and it's probably Nevada in two thousand eighteen as well donald trump was seen with the gubernatorial candidate Adam laxa so the republican gubernatorial candidate Adam Laptop which is also not a good look in the country here in North Carolina in every state. Jackie Rosen Elizabeth Warren they do exactly what we've been hoping the Democrats do and saying choice yeah I will say of all the states that you can go to 'cause he's going to go to some red states to campaign against Red State Democrats this is the one St with a Senate race where Hillary Clinton Estate by two points twenty five percent of the population is Latino if I was of course Dean Heller does what he wants to be a senator after that he's ambivalent it was really hard to break through media coverage and I wonder if in two thousand eighteen and then again in two thousand twenty if trump is still going to have this ability to just take on sharp Puteri at the DNC on TV literally you say this is the person on sometimes they don't know anything because these are folks that are not involved I really think that folks in Nevada are I think they're very clear on how they feel about Donald trump you know what I mean like people across the country and they've always done I mean that's right also message discipline is sticking to a message when it doesn't get covered it well this is so funny that he went there in two thousand fifteen heller gave donations he received from trump away to charity after trump launched his campaign by talking about Mexico I don't know if senator warns people called up The New York Times politico in all the cable networks and rip them a new asshole but they should have been also y'all WanNa Talk About Times Elizabeth Warren condemned trump and Renault he answered in Las Vegas with a slur politico in Nevada trump goes after wacky Jackie so Alvin even though they stuck to the bill and get every one of the people who support turn out that's probably the best he can do the election about trump whether he goes in Nevada or not right like I think for Heller he won't vote for him then admits after trump wins that actually he did vote for him and now he's doing a fundraiser so dean Heller for whatever thinks he has to be trump doesn't know where he another policy y'all can't give me a hit on healthcare like that's what you have to do you need to be in their tails because if you're not if they don't receive any pressure they're going to continue which is they talked about healthcare the tax cuts they stuck to the issues nonstop and Donald Trump did his thing where he just call them nicknames that stuff here's some of the headlines coach sending rapists across the border and then Heller refused to save he would even vote for trump now he's just showing up with he's evolution is amazing right because he gives the donation back then says Pat's and liberals to get out there on the social media but also the candidates to get on TV and counter that message so many Democrats on we'll tell me that they don't WanNa get on TV because they want to talk about Russia they don't just want to talk about Donald Trump and I'm like you can't be afraid you need to address it then pivot to the issues that people care about and that's what we did not frankly do well in two thousand sixteen we let Donald Trump just one dominates credis get in there we're about to talk to a reverend via but donald trump going to Nevada isn't GonNa make anybody feel any differently if you hate them you already hate him if you love 'em yard level and I actually don't think Ding helical and due to well I think impose them politico all talk about the slur and none of the policy and then on television the clips that they play are just the slur and none of the policy then it's the job in my opinion missile media having your own communications operation they get the message out directly around the media times when we come back we will be talking to reverend the coverage and then I got on television just responded to what he said and so that's all anything was that was out there and so we need to be on the doors and everything else but there's a whole media strategy Dr William Barbeque save comes from great blades sharp durable steel that lasts that's why they bought a factory as you know the vampire pretty gay movie to make great quality blades being them of new assholes really getting into the annals of their coverage channel coverage but but but odd we talked about this many times but the beginning sentence can be about Russia you're beginning of the sentence can be about cheese plates and Wacky Jackie but the second half year sentence needs to be be message discipline if it always worked through showing at work does really well he's out there talking about the issues every single day it's not always getting covered but he's out there doing it you know campaigns are wanting to you do Brad Pitt eats mice for awhile and it feels like that maybe that's sustainable Weird for chickens were fed up with overpaying expensive razors with unnecessary features they knew a great show they save space nonsense played this good since the third one hey snowflakes Blade Trinity love that movie so they created a trial offer claim yours by going the media spotlight away from Democrats Democrats are just really on message absolutely but that means immigrants had to get creative and so donald trump's steals the message and the New York Times only eighteen that the media is a tool to get our message opener does not the tool and we need to digital organizing grassroots organizing that's using facebook's by selling directly to you over the Internet Harry's offers their blades at a price much lower than leading brand just two dollars per blade compared to four dollars or more junk Geico parents whose relationship is talk about cheese plates because they don't WanNa talk about take your healthcare while I'm less worried about the cheese Sarah Huckabee Sanders get served than the healthcare they're trying to take away from your family there's a lot of ways you can eddie different ways and one of them are just were are won by just saying the things on the ground to the people in your state all over that state I don't know how we combat 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don't love your new stuff just his rights was twenty five organizations it was black and white and Brown sees the child as he was taking on militarism in poverty and was taking on racism as committee's in Coordination Commission thirty nine states and the District of Columbia more than three thousand people that civil disobedience over four weeks and yesterday what we have if America is going to be one thing we're going to have to get Progressive Democrats whoever the stop doing is just talking about middle class and military their one hundred and forty bad previous ad but you said hairy stands behind the quality of their blades they better but they know switching razors isn't an easy to as easy sorry it's easy is this new movement similar and in what ways is it different than the original poor people's campaign let me say a couple of things that was the king it was rabbi head show it was national one and the false narrative of of Christian nationalism spoke themselves this was different when people speaking for people it was people speaking for themselves and saying that restaurants and whether or not they could dine there congresswoman maxine waters called on supporters to protest trump officials wherever they see them what do you think is the appropriate in most revival in America if we reached out to them and believe that we were talking about this a bit earlier there's been a lot of op eds being clutching debate in Washington right now about people going impactful role of protests in civil disobedience at a time of crisis like this politically well let me just ask folks if they want to know more to March and rally it was a launching of a multi year campaign where the people who are impacted by systemic racism systemic poverty ecological devastation of war economy not a weekend say the word poor and have policies that impact the poor positive we're not going to change this electric but the poor and the rejected can Lee he might lose his rings Jackie Rose and going to be the center so one thing to ask what this appearance because this is going to repeat itself every did she took honestly she took it to like a dog to a dog bed Leo and Luca just ate it and then we look just bites Leo's face a travis took one home that's not left versus right that's about right versus wrong is a moral issue and then number two I believe we have to have non-violent like how did he get hit trump is the symptom of a great Amaro Malady he is the result of the southern strategy bill power from the bottom up but what we can't get into what concerns me is even with trump we can't give him too much but you know he's not God for his pity's she got a Human Ba oh yeah for his big I believe loved it and she was call hanging out no the second prompt. What's The cutest thing about Leo on we have to Organize Mara leaders impacted people and advocates what impact if people number two we have to change the political narrative to this that began in nineteen sixty eight when the poor people's campaign was assassinated he is the result of people still being able to use fear and pit white poor people ah he's not the worst thing that ever happened to America he's not the first time president didn't win an election by popular vote but got putting about electoral college that action in our narrative is too puny and too weak to stimulate power and pushback left versus right liberal versus conservative is too weak if you still take somebody's healthcare communities where where other folk go and we often don't go like Harlan County like western North Carolina Eastern North Carolina and then we have the Rosenbaum's word racism is wing you deny voting rights and won't restore the Voting Rights Act that's racism race against economic progress that is against America and so we've got to find a way the bring black the racism is racism is when you try to put racist judge on the federal bench like they're trying to put Tom Far let's talk about and then less about this that every state has passed racist Voter Suppression Law since two thousand and ten before trump was thought about twenty three states have done that every state we can got elected using racism racism racial voter suppression once they got in office they pass laws to hurt most of the white people the militarism and then third we must build a massive Moto Moto mobilization of registered people take in impact the communities ask voter voter Suppression Law Tog that Black and Brown people have once people got elected using racist voter suppression was white extremists who call themselves ages the majority of the people working below living wages are white the majority am as a matter of their of their race black percentage of the rate but in raw numbers we need to take the risk of believing that people have not lost their humanity that a lot of people have been bamboozled into thinking that we're all different teams what is taking that risk Blackpool people against one another who ought to be allies and that's always been a deliberate but we've got to speak to that and if we're GonNa have simple there are these interlocking injustices that you can't separate and we can't always have movements that's just about a reaction or silo right so Sabinas let it be around not just individuals you know for instance we don't talk about race I'm so tired when we talk about race it let's talk about Roseanne Bosworth so to that point you you said something that I loved which was rush trump who is a racist and he was going to do right by workers if you scratch a liar you find the feet if you scratch a right racist you find somebody that's against working people right and wrong number so so if there's a direct line from racism to economic injustice and I ask people how could you mara fusion civil disobedience where we take these interlocking injustices and never separated you going you want to deal with poverty racism racism you gotta deal with ecological devastation bottom line is if you make less than a living wage and if somebody who's a politician it got elected voter suppression blocks raising the living weight and you can't pay your light beer we all black in audrey the majority of them are white that's forty three point five percent of our country is poor and low well every state that pass voter suppression laws also denied living article devastation the war economy and the false morrow narrative of so called Christian nationalism that says God's position moral position is hate gay p Michigan and the People in Charlotte North Carolina where we have great high levels of poverty even in a bank and what you begin banking competence what you begin to do look like and how do you get people of different races and political beliefs to recognize our common humanity and common struggle that's what we're doing in the poor people's campaign we'll saying dog so we better learn how to come together you see what I'm saying Oh people and white poor people and Brown people and read for people and Yellow poor people in low income people together because guess what if you don't make a living wage if the more white millennials living homeless than any other zip code in the country but you didn't connect the folk in Grays harbor with the people state suppressed a vote passes policies that hurt the poor there are one hundred and forty million poor and low wealth people in this country seventy three percent of them are women you sick five interlocking issues systemic racism but specifically politics policy not about words personal attack systemic poverty died because Alabama refused to expand medicaid but the majority of the people in Alabama that are being hurt by the denial medicate a white facts but we're not good at the faces so we had black and white and Brown and red and yellow and gay and straight and young and old in Christian and Muslim and Jews and even agnostics and but they were to link together by this common morrow theme and that is ever right right but you begin to teach people how they connect you go to Grays Harbor Washington are Aberdeen I've just came from where you have that'd be a rights and make women and children their prey P. R. E. Y. But but we got first of all this is the snatching of Brown children children and we ought to be ugly is vile is against what the scriptures say like nausea ten where it says woe unto those who legislate evil and rob the poor is show people that common humanity and I'm rally I launched yesterday people put faces on the facts sometimes progresses are great at the eight to halt immigration was the proxy war and he's The white national and that he wanted to be with trump because trump gave the signal that he would be against immigration so so so the God has got a look but those five interlocking and then what you have to do is risk going around it is connected to white nationalist and white nationalism doesn't even like white people because white nationalism is against Democracy Richard Spencer said the fire in just the issue of the moment let me just quick right now we're talking about snatching children right and separating it happened in eighteen seventy seven we've moved to the behaves he's not the first time a racist was into White House Dot was Woodrow Wilson and he was also one in nineteen fourteen what we need to do is Nicole Mountain you go there and you and you help people in Harlan County understand how they're connected to Kelly in Alabama whose daughter Eighteenth amendment which is in the middle of of the constitution and if you undo the fourteenth amendment equal protection under the law for every person that hurts all people we are refusing to allow not just the destruction of the Republican Party or the destruction of the Democrat party but the destruction of the soul and action to nine nine nine nine seven five the poor people's campaign a national call we believe three things have to happen number regardless of color so when we can expand these issues then we can find our commonality and we can find humanity and we can say that we so that's kind of an ever ever state that suppressed vote denied Medicaid expansion the prompt the majority of the people benefit for Medicaid expansion away every visit children be first in statue living wages from women and children in fact America first means B. I in undoing the if we can expand this is not just about what's happening on the border America I literally means B. I in stashing healthcare from body has a right to live that is somebody's hurting our brothers and sisters and it's gone on for too long one other way you do it is you don't get caught up lastly their hearts how dare they it may not help in swing districts I can't believe Tom Perez wrote that message memo about kicking people out of restaurants what was he thinking ever thank you so much for joining us you are an inspiration to everyone tell everyone again how they how they can join the poor people's campaign John By texting we have four hundred cameras in this country make an average of ninety seven thousand dollars an hour and ninety seven thousand dollars now four hundred while we'd lock people up for more than fifteen on the union you've been traveling going to in training and having mass media so you go to Harlan County you don't run away from holly kind of weather Hatfield mccoys and aw hate abortion beef for prayer in school before gun rights before tax cuts and and be for states right that's not dodge position that's crazy position ain't got nothing to do with God haunt of America itself and we're not going to give up on America we'RE NOT GONNA give up on number reverend action to nine nine seven five yesterday was the launch we're going into a multi year I moved now is going to be massive voter mobilization and and cases where they don't think we can go from Alabama to Alaska from California to the Carolina and what we're GonNa do is go together of North Carolina whose welcome Governor Coober the reasons people are so behind you here is because they know what you've been up against sends you took office so governor you have some fans in the house rock Dr Some researchers wrote something pretty extraordinary about what's been happening in North Carolina they said North Carolina's overall electoral integrity places the state alongside authoritarian states like pseudo democracies Cuba Indonesia and Sierra Leone a deeply flawed partly free democracy that only slightly ahead of much of the developing world from musicals this week my listeners can get any premium indochino suit for just our listeners John he son of a bitch this week my listeners and John ever analyzed by the Electoral Integrity Project that is what you have been facing what is the status right now of the voter registration you rank alongside Iran and Venezuela North Carolina is not only the worst state in the USA for unfair districting but the worst entity in the world perhaps fabric and lapel style you could choose an Indochino I'm sitting here nothing ever makes John and Tommy look more perplexed and straight than when I refer to the lyrics and we're back he was the attorney general of North Carolina a member of both the state Senate and the State House and he is the current governor of the great America's brought to you by our friends at Indochino Indochino a made-to-measure suit looks and fits way better than generic off the racks that will fit you better than anything off the rack ever could but save America is always brought to you by the cash app it is and thank God it is and what are you doing to fight back against it I it begins with technologically diabolical redistricting the gerrymandering that is details including your lapel lining monogram stop not rocking the boat and go to Indochino here's how it works you visit our showroom or shop online at Entertainers Media Sky Masterson get that suit up you look ridiculous boxy and big Indochino largest made to measure menswear company and has been featured major publication they have been one of the best supporters that this podcast has had since the day it started they are great people they make a great product as an easy way to pay your friends Oh code crooked by any premium suit for just three hundred seventy dollars and free shipping Indochino is at the forefront revolutionizing men's fashion in an incredible deal for a suit the I had made it until now until now pod Save America now I've made it this is it gone on here guys we're a purple state we are we voted for Democrats and including G. 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They've had they've had more than a dozen of their laws overturned what Akam picking fabric you choose your customisations you submit your measurements you wait for your custom Sutra run that song they talked about grabbing somebody by the lapel of their checkered coat about a third of the state legislature who are democratic versus the rest being Republican and that is wrong and that is why you get the attacks on public education that's why twenty thousand teachers can march on Raleigh traditionally North Carolina's been a beacon in the south but to draw districts with politicians choose their voters instead of the voters choosing the politicians. Then that's just I I can tell our national guard troops you come home air time and again they take steps to move North Carolina backward have you learned how have you had to get creative in terms of governing and being exact executive in this state I I told him you're going to see me in court come on back or get paid back download it at your the Code Pod Save Five bucks goes to you five dollars goes to moms demand action it is a win win win win for winners and reproductive health they they are they are making cuts that hurt our efforts for clean water and clean it may be the most important thing we're doing simone is we've started an organization called break the majority the teachers by the way teachers by the way who are more interested in outcomes than they are incomes they care about their kids we for the first time in history we have recruited a Democratic candidate for every single seat in the legislature the seventy seven seventy seven of them are strong women in North Carolina Every House seats in every Senate seat or two year terms that means everybody guys we got to change this thing this November this November we can change it Allen's them groups across the state and across the country have challenged him challenging the constitutionality of what they've done but I've also been able to use to make sure that we're ranked thirty seventh in the country and teacher pay thirty nine per pupil expenditure and that is unacceptable they've refused looking members of the legislature I've tried to literally snatched powers away from you your ability to appoint judges on down the line so what my question to you is what Governor Cooper I came into office with a with an idea of the things we're GONNA go one way and then so many things have happened in the state legislature where he is up for election this November and I need your help out there and I need I need people's help all across North Carolina and and their leaders in their community and their great candidates and let me tell you about calling them late at night the we did this under the umbrella of the North Carolina Democratic Party we didn't form a separate committee and what we've done is we told these candidates and plus I got to raise about a half a million dollars or more and I'll say yes and they'll say in plus everything about my life is going to be I've joined the climate alliance saying this legislature may WanNa go backward but not very convinced but then I say but you have a chance to change history with me in North Carolina and I tell asking them please run for the state legislature

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"Ears you'll never get bored get your first three meals free with free shipping by going to blue apron dot com slash crooked blue apron a better way to cook and the presenting sponsor of positive America is Bluey choose from a variety of new recipes each week or let Blue Apron's culinary team surprise you recipes are not repeated within the ACE and the Supreme Court stayed the lower court injunctions against the ban in a kind of convoluted way basically saying that the band injunctions and also statement from the Conservatives of the court including Gorsuch Alito and Thomas starting to speak to their belief that the on the allowing my stomach to experience the speculation of and then Kennedy's got downstairs Delicious Breakfast Burrito in stand for now with the exception of people who have and this is the term they used a bona fide relationship with people in the United States a deeply concerning this court seems to be hinting at a willingness to let this order stand and we're about to see a partially about the effect of having Neal Gorsuch on the Supreme Court which is an unfairness we can barely stomach but also their desire to send a message to lower courts Senator Capito who has not announced whether or not she is voting for this bill but we're GONNA get to healthcare in a minute let's start with some housekeeping so there's a new pod save the people tomorrow and also there is a special episode of Ana Marie Cox Show with friends like these where she went to a trump rally and talk to them I highly recommend another seat so that speculation no one has any idea but it's just a reminder that we've gotta get our asses in gear and win the midterms because this is serious business and I am not you might be asking yourself what does that mean that's exactly what everybody else is asking so there seems to be a lot of stuff going on here that people are just parsing through this is uh-huh Tommy Vitor today we have a special guest West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin we're GonNa talk to him about the Senate bill on his colleague best but you know it was useful exercise where people are coming from it was also really instructed to see like how much Fox News has just been internalized and regurgitated by so many people so many merits trump will prevail. I mean this is remember that this thing was sold to us as necessary because of some sort of urgent threat from refugees coming from overseas thank you Tommy you're welcome so we're obviously going to keep an eye on that situation but obviously the big story this week is healthcare I have written entirety of the first term of the trump administration because we're reading about this news on the day there's also rampant speculation about Justice Kennedy possibly stepping down announcing his retirement and that would mean trump has to fill a cooler channel so before we get to healthcare some breaking news this morning the Supreme Court has agreed to hear the trump Muslim ban ricketts ruling and the other efforts to slow this thing down so these guys are full of Shit is what I'm trying to say but this room courts going to hear him out yeah I mean not much more to add on this for now it's obviously crazy administrative nightmare as people try to prove that they have a relationship with someone in the US in order to come here these are the pits in your stomach we're gonNA feel for the from Individuals in these countries it was sold as one hundred and twenty day ban on day one hundred fifty five so that threat that urgency hasn't really panned out despite the nights you've analysts said I'd expect coverage to be eighteen to twenty million fewer than under obamacare he then went on to say why he doesn't agree with that number but of course he doesn't he believes in the magic doc of whenever the hell trickled healthcare economics so it anticipation of the CBO score coming out the administration and its allies went out to defend the bill this story in Yahoo Breaking this down Gary Claxton the director of the health care marketplace program at the Kaiser Family Foundation said fifteen or more million will likely lose coverage also a conservative listened to be I I listen to over the weekend and she did a great job of just going and listening to people and trying to have a fact based conversation and I think it was Remar- you'll pull your hair out when you hear it this weekend and they told a series of lies that were absolutely gobsmacked here a few of them and amazingly I liked that a lot we are waiting for the CBO score it is likely to come out today by all accounts it will show that millions if not tens of millions will lose coverage there was a the things that you'll only see on like Tucker Carlson show our spouted back in these interview so it's worth listening check it out very cool very in a bash we would not have individuals lose coverage that's ally Pat Toomey told John Dickerson the Senate bill will codify and make permit Kellyanne Conway told George Stephanopoulos that there aren't Medicaid cuts in this bill and that is the least agrees Wi that was told this weekend right because they claim not a cut it's just we're spending less than we otherwise would have spent it's bullshit if you're expecting money to come next year and then you find out less money as coming I think you'd feel as though you're indicate expansion which is exactly the opposite of what it would do it ends the Medicaid expansion and he said no one loses coverage again ally Sean Asian found that Medicaid not only as an eighty four percent approval rating among Democrats it has a seventy six percent approval rating among independence and a sixty one percent approval rating much worse much worse I have written in my outline because John's on the line while he's gone CBO brother where art is to what this administration is doing. But I digress Spicer said trump is quote committed to making sure that no one currently is in Medicaid in the Medicaid program is affected in any way which is reflected in the Senate bill and he's pleased with that so every part of that is a lie so here's why they're lying a poll by the Kaiser family found her salary had been cut and you're also assuming that no more people will get sick and that prices won't go up on all the things were paying for exactly Tom Price HHS secretary told among Republicans and the exact same poll we discover that only thirty eight percent of people are aware that the GOP healthcare plans cut Medicaid because a they've been lying about it be places like Fox News Aren't telling the truth or simply not covering the facts and see Mitch McConnell's plan to keep the bill under wraps has been Acer in a briefing on Friday that was not on camera because they don't WanNa be on tape lying and the White House Correspondents Association is unable to muster a response pretty effective So Tommy were waiting for the CBO score today we're going to keep an eye on it if it happens during the show do you think that the CBO score and the bill becoming public will get people more I mean the the Joe John Cornyn today said that they are that they are closing the door on a delay in the vote now that is worrying all said they were not ready to support the bill Mike Lee on Friday said something very interesting in a medium post and he said this far short cleaning West Virginia so that those are the stakes of what we're talking about we need these guys to to take fairly politically courageous vote when it comes to to break the tie so we need to pry off three Republicans because we've had unanimity among the Democrats for Conservatives Mike Lee Ted Cruz Ron Johnson and ran in the end Jonathan Swan axios who has really been running the story the ground reported yesterday that a widely held view in McConnell world is that he doesn't start donor class I mean I I read a statistic today that four hundred individuals who will get a tax cut under this bill or the equivalent of Medicaid expansion in like four or five including West Virginia all senators and we're relying on public pressure from the grassroots to swamp like you know the coke brothers are talking about spending three hundred million dollars in the midterm election sexy or so the local pressure from McConnell from their big donors in listen to their constituents in like Shit I wish I thought that I knew how this is going to go but I don't I don't know anymore yeah the repeal the Senate Bill Keeps the Democrats broken system intact just with less spending on the poor to pay for corporate bailouts and tax cuts a cynic might say that the Senate bill is less a Republican to turn that from an asset to a liability for him but that time just doesn't exist here and that is what scares me it should scare everyone out there that we have basically four days healthcare bill than a caricature of a Republican health care bill and yet he does go on to say after all that for all that I have not closed the door on voting for some version of it focused on us I think it will but I think you know our windows so small that it it's it's going to take a Herculean effort to push back I mean we're in a place now where we're relying on fifty two republicans he starts with fifty one many view Rand Paul as a lost cause and someone who has never gettable now that could be posturing that could be sending a signal that could be about where we are with the politics and with the vote remember we need three they need they need to get fifty fifty In the Senate so that Mike Pence ended consequences which are that Medicaid covers seventy four million Americans four out of ten American children are covered by medicaid ten million Americans with disabilities received yeah no can get changed slightly allow these guys to take a win and so they're already talking about carving out a special deal for Alaska that would change the way certain pricing occurred as a giveaway into kind of make the bill seem more engaged than it is but regardless Tommy how quickly do you think these right wingers are GonNa fold these stories are scary drafting errors look that the democratic process or passing Obamacare was incredibly intensive and public and scrutinized and all the rest but even still because the home for the July fourth recess. They don't come back because I did vote for this bill in part because of what everybody's been telling to put pressure on these people so let's you those senators and get their votes this happened under obamacare Ben Nelson custody of those called the corn husker kickback ultimately it took weeks in months of political pressure there are huge unintended consequences that would have effects on employer benefits on premiums on Medicaid and all the rest that we just don't even understand and let's just hammer home the because of the way the bill had to be passed because of the death of Ted Kennedy we don't need to get into it there were drafting mistakes that made it all the way to the Supreme Court it is very likely I try to have empathy for the individuals who are currently second worried about this but this is going to harm coverage from employers something called Association Health plans which means debt from healthcare problem and an appoint that Rand Paul made which is that he can't support this because it's too much like obamacare light it leaves so many of the regulations and it's Oh human stories here that needs to be highlighted and lifted up as we talk about this because like this is going to be devastating for people that have no voice they have no lobbyists they have no money they have nothing but to put back in caps and all the rest but ultimately the biggest part of this bill is the cuts to Medicaid and the tax cuts so that's what we're fighting so we're trying to paint a picture here of just how damaging this bill would would be and we are backed by the facts we are backed by the evidence we're going to be backed by CBO score but another important thing to remember is a your health insurance company can offer policy but it doesn't have to offer chemo or radiation so what we could see is he slow wittling down of insurance to something that's not we really want to go back to a situation where a child is born and goes into neo natal care and hits their lifetime limit on their health insurance before they left there's a really complicated issue and it's a really complicated bill and it was written in secret and it is just now hit the light of day the reason we have a big process the reason we have politics is then Rakowski we're going to ask Senator Mansion about Senator Capito given how hard this bill hits West Virginia Tommy visiting you were is it actually does matter that everybody gets a look at this because they might not have thought of everything they know the unintended consequences huge mistake drafting errors for care around up in the Supreme Court right now I cannot support a piece of legislation that takes insurance away from tens of millions of Americans and hundreds of thousands of Nevada it is pretty impressive that he went out there and said that Medicaid I mean this is going to go after the most vulnerable people in our population now Ari Melber did an interview with a mother and her son who was on disability insurance we any compromise they must vote for some kind of repeal no matter what it is yeah it's a sickness I think in the trump era Republican party which is he says I worried they will lull people into complacency. There's a lot of you know John Oliver did a good piece of miss last night like all the reportings like the bill is unlike support it's like well actually they introduced something four days to revamp one six of the economy and the point that I think a lot of you look there's a dynamic here and this is GonNa happen on any big piece of legislation but look we're we're he's wrong period on the politics but like the idea that he that Hugh Hewitt in the establishment Trumpian want to push the party off a cliff that should scare him in move voters yeah the money that these people are putting behind repeal is pretty incredible actually write the coke brothers are putting money come out against the bill and he did so pretty strongly stood next to you governor Brian Sandoval Republican and said this bill would mean a loss of coverage for millions of Americans and many Nevada I'm telling you it is a tax cut bill entered the Medicaid bill the the exchanges and all the rest they fuck with them they make them worse they're gonNa make seniors pay more money they're giving insurance companies the ability to the vote for something before they even know what it is absurd to me and meanwhile dean Heller has a million dollars being spent against him TV ads by trump SUPERPAC. where the you were ranting about this morning joely Hugh Hewitt has an op Ed that basically says Republicans have to be for something that they need to be for basic again I mean there was an NBC pull out this morning by three to one margin the American public holds a negative view of the ASPCA the House Bill Sixteen percent of adults believe that it's is not what he came to the Senate to do in fairness Rand Paul there is some truth to that in in that this bill does two things far more than it reforms the healthcare system and far more than reforms Obamacare SUPERPAC? What the fuck are we doing here? Where's priorities is that we spent fifteen million dollars on Jon ossoff phrase I'd love to see two or three million getting pumped into Nevada bees that seems like a guy that's trying to lash himself to the mass so he doesn't have the ability to change his mind Susan Collins of Maine and said she is waiting for the CBO score Lisa Murkowski of Alaska all useful to people? Yeah I mean something Chris has talked about a lot is that a lot of what this bill seems to want to do is create a subprime insurance market you know all these conservatives talking about how Oh these regulations that require hospital for the very first time I mean that is what we're talking about so let's talk about the senators that we do believe are reachable Dean Heller of Nevada has already certain benefits raising premiums and there is some truth to that because a lot of people had really low premiums and healthcare that didn't cover anything had a yearly cap at a lifetime cap I mean the calls it political insanity and beyond irresponsible to vote against a bill that we don't even know what the CBO score would be we don't even know the impact of it and you know those plans don't comply with any rules and you know what you have in your plan because states can waive protections or certain guidelines of what has to be healthcare plan so basically if you have cancer you can said she's going to crunch the numbers okay you do that you you say let's do this both Collins and Murkowski have talked about their commitment to planned parenthood collins more strongly on that a good idea forty eight percent said it's bad even Republican respondents are lukewarm about it thirty four percent view of positivity seventeen percent view it negatively so first of all like I Vata Alaska Ohio West Virginia where there may be a deciding vote and if you WanNa make calls from home again evolved as always we remind you that we're working with indivisible GOTO TRUMP DIS for poor to purchase insurance and visit doesn't do enough to get rid of insurance companies of coverage requirements. I mean these guys are as devious awful as you could ever imagine so subbing back there they're human beings and this is the biggest decision they'll have made in a long time for someone like capita in West Virginia has just gone to the Senate this may be the biggest decision she's ever made in her life care ten dot org slash crooked and you can call your senator you can email their legislative assistance and staffers at work on this issue we gotta keep it up yeah I just capital that will kick off continuous protests move on is calling it the people's Filibuster if you're in DC should go check it out there's also local protests and that's especially important if you live in a state right which is predicting what happens this week is a fool's errand nobody knows just light up the phones and social media just do everything you can I think that's really important I think to remember too is that a lot of these well trump is tweeting excuses so you know we're his heads out by the way how great was it that he called the House bill mean enclosed doors Paul Ryan went out and denied it and said he was misinterpreted than he was I was talking about this over the weekend it's like there's been a lot of like oh these centers were under so much pressure they're gonNA have to vote for they can't vote for it in center Brian Schatz of Hawaii made this point for during the trump administration and all of us should be calling our senators and members of Congress and everybody else we can put pressure on but also call your friends who live in the states and ask them because all the Oy than anybody thought you've seen Mike Pence gave a speech over the weekend where he said we will repeal obamacare quote by summers and serve early conceding that they may not be able to do it this week ah been one of the point on that is just like as much as as native the Medicaid cuts one thing I mean everyone listening if you're young and you're not sick now you will be someday that's what happens in life so positive America's brought to you by Harry's razors we love using Harry's razors here at pods America because even though I probably shave less frequently than most people I see yeah because it it it Ki- whe- it's worrying because there's a chance that means they think they have the votes it also may just mean they understand that if a bunch of their members much of these senators go home is have switched to Harry's Jeff and Andy Two regular bros. were fed up with buying overpriced razors started Harry's to fix shaving Harry's offers their AIDS at half the price of the leading fiber razor selling directly to you over the Internet claim your free trial offer from Harry's today a thirteen dollars value for free when you sign up during Shave Gel a travel blade cover go to harrys dot com slash crooked for your free trial right now that's Harrys dot com slash crooked Four years is a long time it feels longer every day but I sincerely believe that this will be the single most important vote in thing that we fight for can do the worst thing that can happen as they say no but if we don't try if we don't fight on this we will never win on anything else and the fact that they've taken off the table the idea that this makes me royal shave set for free when you sign up Harry's dot com slash crooked just pay three bucks for shipping why Harry's Harry's is all about a great shave at a fair price which is why over three million guys her to care for him in the home is on Medicaid everyone should watch it I people have been andy slaving he used to run import healthcare programs for the Obama Administration tweeted this out I mean there are a real just cover the three dollars of shipping your free trial set includes a weighted ergonomic razor handle five precision engineered blades with lubricating trip and trimmer blade a rich land. I've heard me say this a billion times one of the weird have you done the thing where Sonos has you tune your speakers I haven't done that I don't know what that is a new software update it's like it sounds even better so I honey let's just take a break we're back we're going to talk about some other stuff hey don't go anywhere this is positive America and there's more on the way the office office we've no furniture or podcast studio but we've speakers when's your man what's we're able to record podcasts in her office interview on Fox and friends by one of the morons might as well work for him and he was like Hey I called the meeting because it was you know I don't think it's that good you're just confirmed it was you're so excited he he's proud of his ability to name Hi and they said this bill doesn't go far enough that's amazing those pricks those guys are disappointed Jesus doesn't do enough to dismantle obamacare they're opposed abused they're still substance close shave every time and the blades common in my mailbox delivered every week enough to go to CVS and spend ungodly money wasps shave monthly your sister Eh and to to say that you know what this person is going to do I think is a failure to understand how people work so I think the pressure really works I think pressure's really effective already got US Dean Heller more strong research may be posturing but it may be that they know that either they're gonNA pass it this week or they won't pass it all you saw in that light note it was the most comprehensive story written to date about not just what Russia did to intervene in our election but the Obama administration's response so it's they included cyber attacks on their infrastructure releasing materials to embarrass Putin and then in late December ultimately Obama approved a modest package that expelled thirty five diplomats close CIA analyst. I guess and he's Mitch McConnell the stealth the worst member of minutes I mean just we'll get or four individuals only that had to be returned and that's when Obama started learning about what was going on and at that point it was clear hackers had penetrated the Democratic party networks part of the take home is that this was a partisan effort from the start the White House briefed the House and the Senate Leadership September at that meeting Mitch McConnell Voice Doubts about the accuracy of intelligence because he's yes I have my Sonos play baseball I watch my TV. I have one in the dining room I have one in my bathroom so when I'm watching a show I can hear it all throughout my house now we have some Blah and we're back last week the Washington Eddie he doesn't realize when should branding so on Monday Senate Democrats are going to have an all night talk a thon to protest the bill on Tuesday there's a rally at two PM at the Russian facilities in the US There was some narrow economic sanctions and then there were apparently some covert cyber measures that we just don't know much about but you know welcome to Pod Save America I'm John Host through its hat in the Pulitzer Ring With Greg Miller Ellen Nakashima adamant of bylined a piece called inside Obama secret struggle to punish Russia for hacking uh-huh and that is why go to high tea and then they go home and they shave Harry's is so confident that you're gonNA love their blades they'll give you their free July the FBI to open an investigation to contacts between Russian officials and trump associates over the over the next several months the White House debated all these options for deterring or punishing Russia agree one senior administration official said I sort of feel like we choked friend of the pod Russia expert Obama former Obama Mike mcfaul said the punishment didn't fit the crime stories like a punch in the face yeah yeah okay so ultimately they wanted to put up this big bipartisan statement got watered down turned into a non political statement in the article Obama's defender say that by August the damage was done wikileaks had the emails Obama Confronted Putin in September and likely prevented them from excavating these attacks and that the partisanship that the GOP response efforts to brief this and and to get us to respond as a nation constrain their options others did they respond as well as they could have given the nature of what happened in the time it takes to collect confirm and deal with the sensitive stuff yeah for so I took the McConnell piece August two thousand sixteen when the White House I briefed on this explosive intelligence and it talks about how the like this didn't get emailed over it was a currier over in an envelope that was when should have paid a much higher price from the attack and then we should consider more action so I guess my question for you love it or like one did Obama and the Obama administration choke or cost the government between Republicans and Democrats especially at the local level Mitch McConnell holding the Gorsuch seat open refusing to be part of this statement it positive America is also brought to you by SONA SEE LOVES DUNno we love tennis they ask you to do your own thing here are some notes I don't know I have someone else ever in my house I love it you got actually important to how what they were trying to do so they were trying to muster a bipartisan response not only because it would have been good politics but because managing our elections is a bipartisan affair that goes on all of them we'll have shown us to play them which is gonNA be awesome sonus makes us sound great speakers I love shown us go to senators if you're going to buy a speaker you're crazy if you buy anything else they're worth every penny in search in their great Tommy Vitor they're worth every penny and they're cheap and they're great they're great speakers by San Jose just to put a bipartisan sheen on what was an attack on our democracy and then him writing the Senate health care bill secret I think are the TRIFECTA of Steve Most sort of anti-democratic vicious UNAMERICAN behavior we've ever seen from a leader of any party in our lifetimes what is the rationale for someone handing you the head new I think what's new is the ability to use technology to sort of exacerbated to allow them to reach into our country from so far away but you know exports save the best way to deal with these influence campaigns is to make them visible I worry that we've lost our best weapon against these attacks because we have a president we're all feeling is everyone President Obama James Komi the Clinton campaign everyone was behaving as though Hillary Clinton would win influence consciously or not by political considerations in prediction that literally everyone got wrong in so that aside I'm still remained also just a little more complicated that said I do think it's true that anything the Obama Administration did before the election would be viewed as partisan period cyberwarfare is relatively new there aren't necessarily clear rules of the road we have public policies about when will use nuclear weapons when a rules of engagement for the military this stuff is being figured out piece at Emily's European countries have devoted years to countering Russian disinformation hacking trolling setting up sputnik in our T. in their country like this is not latimer Putin for any of this behavior and the thing that I'm frightened the other thing that I can't stop thinking about is Vladimir Putin interfered with our election if you're Mitch McConnell you can see or hear or be briefed on whatever you want yeah so so we can't let Mitch McConnell off the Hook I don't know whether the response in politicized and would be maybe even not probably would be unhelpful. I do think you're right though that ultimately you had a bunch of national security experts being how to deal with this on long term how to prepare for the future prevent future hacking of our democracy that's why I think it's so hard for us to look at this in hindsight because we were all in the mentality that Hillary Hillary would win and then we deal with it and then now we're living in the the aftermath yep I have some thoughts on this so I think it's hard to forget that this was happening was behaving in that way to prune was doing was despicable that it was helping the Republicans that it was wrong that it was an interference in our sacred democratic process but at the end of the day Ah this and that this is something we could deal with after in a kind of measured response when the the reins of power handed over and there would have been serious adults at the table to talk about was enough in the in the weeks preceding the election if they should have rang the alarm more they did talk about it and it was immediately politicized and made partisan my either something feels fifty fifty or it feels like one in a million and we treated trump winning like a one in a million when it really felt more like fifty fifty and everybody inside the government real time right we are gathering intelligence for real time not just any old intelligence but if we add intelligence on Vladimir Putin's personal involvement or signing off on whatever order today that trump is pushing for a meeting with Putin next month in Germany and not just like a pull aside at a conference but like all the trappings the bells and whistles of a full diplomatic donald trump's behavior toward Russia that is not nefarious in some way there is no way to explain a man who has no principle whatsoever no consistent Halsey meeting and I don't understand how anyone could think that that's good politics let alone good policy there is no explanation for unleashed a torrent of packing and assaults on our institutions when he thought that there was an administration that care yeah right instead of washing posted when I think it's they need silver made this point that may be wrong but I think it's a really smart point which is that as human beings we kinda have to settings when it comes to odds that prize that more was not done to punish Russia after the election yes yeah and and then of course we handed the reins over to Donald Trump who has no interest in punishing heard that's about as sensitive as it gets people could literally die if those sources or methods or burn can they may be already half the prevent us from being able to do it again so that's something to be aware of and build their holding up is mostly for show anyway that he wants to meet with Vladimir Putin that he won't seem to ask a single question to any of the national security do you want anything how he remains so steadfast in his view that he should never criticize Russia that they should possibly be holding up a sanctions bill even though the ponding Russia and getting tough on them who would probably pay significant political dividends for him right I'm not sure what he's holding out for think about all the Republicans a partisan atmosphere that refuses to believe they ever occur Oh and then you have the Sean Hannity the world saying Oh deep state deep state parenting Russia's propagates believable unbelievable all right guys when we come back Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia this policy of America stick around there's more great show cels that come to him about what we're doing to prevent a future attack I mean it is mind boggling his stories all over the place right for a while he denied it was a case he said it could have been a factor in the line so yeah it's dark times Tommy it's dark out there and we'll get into your point about Putin doing this with a a president he thought would would take a hard line against us the AP coming your way positive America's brought to you by texture 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NYT: Deputy AG Rosenstein discussed 25th Amendment, suggested secretly recording Trump after Comey firing; Kavanaugh accuser Ford faces 5p deadline to respond to GOP proposal for Wed hearing; NYT: McConnell, Ryan express worry of Trump midterm impact

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A shocking report says, rod Rosenstein the manager of the Russia probe discussed secretly reporting President Trump, potentially ousting him via the constitution as Washington DC holds on tight for the president's response to this also breaking just minutes ago, the deadline Republicans giving Kavanagh's accuser, professor Christine Blasi for the rest of this hour to respond to their counter offer for a hearing on Wednesday, bringing us closer to hearing that could decide the future of the supreme court, and you go ahead and reset that clock on the president showing any restraint today. He unleashed on professor Ford and on her parents and a tone deaf tweet asking, why didn't she report this to the FBI when she was fifteen? This is CNN breaking news, welcome to the lead on Jake tapper. We begin this afternoon with breaking news a stunning report out this afternoon revealing just how concerned at least one top administration official was about the chaos of the Trump presidency and the behavior of President Trump the New York Times reporting. The deputy attorney general rod Rosenstein told FBI and Justice department officials that he was considering secretly recording, President Trump to try to document the dysfunction. He was witnessing and even discussed trying to garner support from cabinet officials to potentially invoke the twenty fifth amendment to the US constitution. This would remove President Trump from office or being unfit to serve this according to several people who described these events to the New York Times. Rosenstein reportedly made these questions in the spring of two thousand seventeen days after the president fired FBI director, James Komi. Now, neither of these proposals by Rosenstein apparently went any further than talk Rosenstein who oversees the. Russia investigation has publicly denying this report this afternoon, calling it inaccurate. Let's get right to CNN. Sara Murray sir. Rosenstein was reportedly so serious about removing President Trump from office that he even said. He thought he could persuade attorney general Jeff Sessions, and then homeland security secretary, John Kelly. Now the chief of staff to potentially join him. That's right. Jake, according to this New York Times report, rod Rosenstein was coming up with potential ways to get Trump out of the White House. But today Rosenstein is hitting back at that same New York Times story. Deputy attorney. General rod Rosenstein floated the idea of wearing a wire to secretly record President Trump last year according to the New York Times states. The second most powerful person at the Justice department. Also reportedly discussed with DOJ officials recruiting cabinet members to invoke the twenty fifth amendment to remove Trump from office for being unfit in the days. Following FBI director, James commes firing Rosenstein vehemently, denying the claims saying in a statement, the New York Times story is inaccurate and factually incorrect. I will not further comment on a story based on anonymous sources who are obviously biased against the department and are advancing their own personal agenda. Adding. Let me be clear about this based on my personal dealings with the president. There is no basis to invoke the twenty fifth amendment. One source who was in the room for the discussion tells CNN Rosenstein was being sarcastic when he discussed the wire comment. But others told the New York Times Rosenstein was serious. And even raise the idea of others wearing a wire. The times report relies in part on memos written by former FBI director, Andrew McCabe McCabe who's memos have been handed over to special counsel. Robert Muller's team was fired earlier this year, following onslaught of Twitter attacks from the president. A Justice official tells c. n. n. they're skeptical of McCain's description of events suggesting McCabe has credibility issues and wanted to do what he could to lay the groundwork for an appointment of a special counsel after Coney was fired. But another source close to the situation believes McCabe had no incentive to lie while taking those contemporaneous notes today through his attorney, McCabe denied any knowledge of how the times got its hands on the details of his memos saying when he was interviewed by the special counsel more than a year ago, he gave all of his memos classified and unclassified to the special counsel's office. A set of those memos remained at the FBI at the time of his departure in late January twenty eighteen. He has no knowledge of how any member of the. Media obtained those memos. So help you. God Rosenstein took charge of the Russian investigation after attorney general Jeff Sessions, recused himself just yesterday, he went to the White House to discuss declassifying certain documents and texts related to the Russia pro. Now, President Trump is backing away today from that call to declassify documents, text messages, the application for the FIS award for Carter page. Instead, he put out a tweet today in which he said he would leave it up to the department of Justice's inspector general to move forward with this. That'll be a relief probably to some Trump critics who viewed this as another effort by the president to meddle in the rush investigation. Jake, thanks so much. Let's talk about it with our experts. Bill start with you rod Rosenstein thinking that potentially. I mean, he denies the story, but that the president was unfit and they should talk about the twenty fifth amendment may be wearing a wire deputies general thought about wearing a wire into the Oval Office that evoked the twentieth amendment. You know, it happens in every administration. I mean, let the record reflect real is being sarcastic. For one hundred years who read the van scrapped? Yeah, where does one begin? I don't know. Maybe he saw things that were legitimately extremely worrisome. I'm sure he did see some such things. The also I must have been extremely rattled that week when he went call me was fired. And I would say this, honestly, those since then, whenever the truth or half truth of some of those reports are whether he was being sarcastic or or gallows humor, like in some of those comments. Now, he's been, I think, looking from the outside a very responsible deputy general and and he and sessions preserve the Muller investigation on the rule of law at the department of Justice. We saw that just now, I mean also and that they're not going ahead with declassifying things recklessly responsibly, even though the president said they should so whatever the truth of the particular account, I think we should keep keep that in mind as well. And Kristen, this isn't the first time we've heard the twenty fifth amendment being discussed. It was mentioned in that New York Times op Ed by the anonymous, senior administration officials saying that people there have been whispers around it about it early in the administration, whether or not you. Leave her and I understand a lot of people don't Moreau saw Amanda. Golf Newman says that people in the White House staff used to do hashtag t.f w IT FAA the twenty fifth amendment whenever President Trump did anything crazy. I, you know, this isn't the first time. Our viewers have heard the term twenty fifth amendment. They know what it means. It does seem though to me to be a little irresponsible for someone who is the deputy attorney general, who may be in a position where you've got to be investigating the president's actions to be saying something like this, which is, which is why I'm skeptical of the account way it by all accounts. Rod Rosenstein has been a professional responsible person in the very difficult role that he's been in. I think the real question now is in his statement to the media, rod Rosenstein sort of affirmed. I don't think we should be using the twenty fifth amendment to remove the president will the president here that message. Think about the competing voices. We've gotten this discussion on the one hand, you have voices from the department of Justice which the president has had no problem. Criticizing on the other hand is the New York Times, Andrew McCabe notes from. Lisa page, I believe, are involved in this is like a laundry list of people tweeted against. And so who will the president agree with in who's got the right story on this issue? And here's another group of people Laura Ingram, the conservative pundit on Fox News who President Trump, I think, respects a lot tweeted in response quote, rod Rosenstein must be fired today. So there are a lot of people on on a lot of Trumpy folks who don't like Rosenstein because they think that he's let the Russia probe run run, wild, etc. Who are looking at this as an excuse to for the president to fire him? Yeah, and that's what to me is really scary about this is that it could be used for that. The president. Now in his imaginary world has all the evidence he would need. I think he, he thought he had that long ago, but this is another proof point, and I also concerned that the the reporting, we just don't know how accurate is it really. I mean, it makes sense to me that maybe he could've made a crack about this, but the idea that he would have really proposed that it just I don't even know how you do that. You go. The judge and get a warrant. I mean, how do you? So the worst possible scenario in my mind is that it's it's an exaggerated report either because somebody gave an exaggerated information or or or misrepresented something or for some other reason. And then that becomes the premise for the president to fire. These New York Times reporters are excellent reporters, Goldman, and and Schmidt. And and the other thing is, you know, McCabe who wrote this in a memo is do not denying that he wrote it in a memo. He's saying that he didn't give it to them. Well, exactly. I mean, they're getting this from somewhere. What I would say about the the drumbeat of the the president's the folks on the outside that present listens to. They've also said that about sessions. So I wonder I'm not making any predictable about so they they've called for sessions. Yeah, exactly. So I wonder if this is something and I'm not gonna make any predictions 'cause Lord knows it could have been tweeted right now on talking. I know. Oh, good. Thank goodness. But I wonder if this just increases the likelihood that a lot changes after the midterm elections. Even after all I go either gets confirmed or doesn't get confirmed as I do think one piece of leverage wa- responsible people in the White House of had against the president acting against sessions, Rosenstein, et cetera is, hey, you got to keep things calm because you care about supreme court and recapping has a pretty good chance of getting confirmed. Once cabinet was resolved, Mcgann leaves, then all bets are off. I think one other a person that that's in another group of reacting to this Donald Trump junior hit, perhaps is number one surrogate on the campaign trail shocked. Absolutely shocked. Now, who is the attack in the New York Times? No, Rosenstein who are we kidding at this point? No one is shocked that these guys would do anything in their power to undermine real Donald Trump followed. By the quote, we likely have a winner in the search for anonymous, Donald Trump, junior tweeting that. Sure. That doesn't surprise me at all. In fact, I mean, like I mentioned, we're going to have this sort of strange bedfellows effect here, right? We're suddenly anonymous sources in the New York Times of the greatest thing ever because they're confirming a narrative that some people already had in. Wanted to see further. So I think it doesn't surprise me at all that the folks that have been vocally critical of rod Rosenstein or jumping on the story as proof that he is exactly the monster. They said he was count. Me is still pretty skeptical. Given the irony on this to me is what, let's say this actually did happen again. It. It seems a little bizarre. It's the president speaking out. What about pay? Sorry. But, but what's been extraordinarily and consistently bizarre is the president's own behavior. That's what's at the core of this right is doubting whether this man can actually do his job. You've got an investigation going on into whether there was collusion with Russia, whether his entire business is based on fraud money laundering, so on and so forth. So I, I mean, it's just one of these remarkable things nowadays that that we're sorting through all these details. But when you pull back, what's really question years, the president's own fitness for office that is a legitimate question. Woodward in his book does not have the twenty fifth amendment section, but he does have chief of staff John Kelly, calling it crazy town. And in this account in the New York Times, Rosenstein is talking about potentially getting Kelly who at the time was at the department of homeland security to join him along with sessions in possibly talking about the twenty fifth amendment to remove the president from all. And that's one of the interesting things about this piece as it does continue a threat, maybe not the twenty fifth amendment piece, but it does continue thread. The Woodward book basically was about a bunch of people who are senior officials trying to undermine the president. And that that's the narrative throughout the book. And we just see that through that op Ed. And now through this story that this is a continuing narrative that isn't going away anytime anytime soon. And maybe some of the events aren't exactly how they're presented, but it sure seems like a lot of this stuff happened. Do you think there's a legitimate twenty fifth amendment case against President Trump to play devil's advocate here, the economy's chugging along fine. You agree with a lot of the things the president is doing in terms of taxes in terms of Roe caviar, at least until week ago in terms of foreign policy, do you think there's actually, I mean, even obviously his behavior is a Radic and unusual. Do you think there's a case to be made that he's unfit. He could be unfit in a general sense, but I don't think this is twenty fifth amendment case, but there are people. I mean, the reason the anonymous op-ed has has some had such residences. It's his by someone who claims to be an insider who claims that other insiders have seen issues that would raise twenty fifth amendment concerns, which presumably those of us who only see him on TV and on Twitter wouldn't see so, but no, I, I don't think at this point, there's any reason to think there's a legitimate twenty fifth amendment case. But I do think the degree to which he's been you say that the president was that the Woodward book shows people undermining. But the way of saying it is that it shows senior officials constraining him cabinet officials white out. The country is the big story is the degree. The line. I didn't. Trump spokeswoman here on my left, but but for me, the big story again is the degree to which those constraints are gradually being a going away on being undercut. The guardrails are being chipped away at and begins leaving Kelly row leave after the election. Mattis could leave. He wants desperately fire sessions. Maybe he'll add Rosenstein. Maybe we'll be right after election day. It could be. Picture of the red wedding right there. Everyone say, got a lot more to talk about what was rod Rosenstein being serious. When he talked about wearing a wire, we'll talk with President Trump. 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Now we're back with the breaking news CNN has learned the deputy attorney. General rod Rosenstein suggested the Justice department and FBI officials that he secretly record President Trump at the White House. He discussed recruiting cabinet officials to invoke the twenty fifth amendment to remove President Trump from office this. This is according to sources familiar with memo's authored by former FBI deputy director, Andrew McCabe documented these discussions and was first reported by the New York Times. Joining me on the phone is Adam. Goldman one of the two reporters who broke the story along with Michael Schmidt. Adam, congratulations on the scoop. Thanks for talking to us. You report that when Rosenstein talks about wearing a wire, that one person describes him saying it's our cast, but that others thought that he meant it. Is it clear to you ultimately how he meant it when he when he made the remarks about the twenty when he talked about wearing a wire. Yeah, you know, my understanding of what happened is that this was on that flip that remark and he was in fact very serious and the circumstances in which it was described to mayor different now than what's what's being put out, I guess, by the government. But I, you know, it's important that your listeners understand something that as I was pursuing this story for a very long time, people were lucked into talk about it because of the gravity of the story that there was concerned that if they got out that, you know, Rosen's dean Rosenstein ahead wanted to actually, you know where liar suggested make Andy McCabe that deputy director, they acting director at the time where wire that rod, Mike, it fired people were sincerely concerned about this, not because he made a flip remark because of the series surrounding the remark. I have to say, I mean, Senator Schumer the democratic leader of the Senate is out there saying the this can't be used as pretext of fire. Rod Rosenstein. You have supporters of the president's like Laura Ingraham on at Fox News saying rod Rosenstein must be fired. This has entered the political sphere. I know that it isn't why you wrote it. You wrote it because it's a big scoop it. It's interesting and it's factual. But when you write a story like this, I mean that's got away on you to a degree that you know, how is this going to impact history. Agreed in in this moment we realized my write these stories, they can become politically toxic, but I felt my job is reporter and the way it's always conducted my the way I've always conducted myself is I just follow the fax. And when I reach a certain comfort level, I publish this story. You know, I think my my main concern in this story was just trying to be fair to all the parties involved. Yeah, absolutely. There have been other mentions of the twenty fifth amendment of course, being talked about in the administration, the anonymous op Ed author for your newspapers at a Tokyo pages. Omarosa manigault Newman talked about how White House staffers used to have a hashtag for it. Whenever the president did something, they found wanting t- FA twenty fifth amendment has TSA. Did you have any sense whether this was really being serious Lee considered among administration officials? This is something the actually you're going to do. They're going to go to other members of the cabinet and try to get the number that the the requisite number to actually invoke the amendment. I wrote my story, I think was concerned that. How would you do a straw poll? Right? Because if we got back the Trump, you know, he would any out. He would fire a fire, everybody, but you know, I wasn't able to to to to to level the measure, the seriousness of of what mister McCabe was told by rod. But you know, what was interesting when I learned about that, it was post. It was only learned about it after they op-ed and which which, which raises idea at least in my mind that you know more people talking about the twenty minutes out there. And then we then we really know interesting. The New York Times. Congratulations again on the scoop. Thanks for joining us as President Trump changes his tone and questions. How serious the attack could have been against her. Judge Brett Kavanagh's accuser, professor, Christine Blasi. Ford is slowly coming to terms with senators the possible new date for this momentous hearing coming up next day with us. Hey, it's Howard Beck, and I've got money mccutchen the NBA vice president of referee development and training on each reports. The full forty eight referee served the game, our players, our coaches, and our franchises are the game. And that's a huge distinction that I- referees on your skin, and it's wonderful to serve this. This game is the best game ever invented to my opinion. And I, we love serving the game. So check out the full forty eight. Now on the Bleacher report app, apple podcasts, and Spotify. Breaking news in our politics lead. We now have a five o'clock deadline for professor Christine Blasi Ford. She's the woman accusing judge Cavanaugh of sexual assault, five o'clock. She needs to respond to Republicans, latest offer for hearing that's just in thirty three minutes that conditions coming from Republicans on the Senate Judiciary committee to hearing would be Wednesday Blasi. Ford would testify first before cavenaugh and an outside counsel would be used to ask the questions. This new deadline comes just hours after President Trump unleashed an attack against professor Ford and her credibility after five days of following the advice visits and saying, professor, Ford should be heard. The president is now questioning whether her allegations are true. CNN's Kaitlan Collins is live in Springfield, Missouri where President Trump is holding a rally this evening Caitlyn you reported yesterday that the president's aides were were stunned at his relative restraint. What's the reaction today to him attacking a woman who claims she was sexually assaulted. Well, Jake, they didn't think it was belong because it's pretty uncharacteristic of the president to be so measured in his responses at his as he had been for several days. But then today we saw what the president has been saying privately. He said it publicly today, which is that he questions the allegations, that Christine Wasi. Ford has leveled against his prim court nominee, and he made clear today that whether she testifies or not, he thinks breath Cavanaugh should become Justice, brought capital. Bread caviar President Trump unleashing today, breaking after days of restraint, and lashing out at the woman who has accused his supreme court nominee of sexual assault Trump tweeting than if the alleged attack was as bad as she says. It was Christine. Blasi. Ford would have filed charges. The president demanding to know the day time and place. Ford has accused Brett Kavanagh of sexually assaulting her when they were teenagers allegations, he has vigorously denied White House officials were caught off guard by the president's initially measured response until he cast doubt on four delegation today asking why didn't someone call the FBI thirty six years ago in an interview with the Washington Post earlier this week, Ford recalled thinking, I'm not ever telling anyone this moments before Trump attacked. Ford. Kellyanne Conway told reporters. But earlier she said, I hope this woman is not being used by the Democrats, the president criticizing Democrats who have called for an FBI investigation into Ford's allegation saying they don't want to know the answers because facts don't matter to them. Trump's remarks coming as Ford's attorneys continue negotiating with the Senate Judiciary committee over her possible testimony, including a request from Ford that she never be in the same room as Cavanaugh Trump making his feelings, known today, tweeting let her testify or not, and take the vote as he continues to tout his nominees credentials, a great intellect. A great gentleman and impeccable reputation went to Yale top student when jail law school top sued. So Jake clearly there for President Trump feeling very competent. So is the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, but Senator Susan Collins who is going to be a crucial vote for cavenaugh. If she does vote for him to get him confirmed today, said she was appalled by President. Trump's tweet about Christine, Blasi Ford, noting that sexual assaults are typically one of the most under reported crimes. She said that she thought his tweet was completely inappropriate and wrong. Jake, of course, when the president is on this stage behind me here tonight in an arena full of his supporters chanting along with him, there's a chance we could hear more of what the president tweeted today from him in person. Jake Collins with the president in Missouri Lynn fact, but let me play some of this sound of from Susan Collins and and just keep in mind the idea that sexual assault victims don't report the assault. That's the norm. According to advocates using Justice department figures, they say two out of three sexual assaults go. Unreported. So it's not unusual. That's not evidence of anything. Here is a Republican Senator. Susan Collins, reacting to President Trump's tweet. I was appalled by the president's tweet. I'm not saying that's what happened in this case. But we know that allegations of sexual assault are one of the most unreported crimes that excess. So I thought that the president's tweet was completely inappropriate and wrong. What change the president had been showing relative restraint. Now he is tacking Dr. Blasi Ford and her parents for not having reported this crime. He clearly thinks this alleged crime. He clearly thinks it doesn't. It didn't happen. I mean, he, he thinks he's somewhere got a green light to start doing this, whether it was, you know, talking to people on the outside or because clearly he's no longer listening to his advisers because what happened right there with Senator Collins is exactly what they were trying to avoid alienating to women in particular, Susan Collins. Makovsky we're going to be critical votes. If they, especially if they lose a lot of the red state Democrats because of what's happening right now, it also the image of the president of the United States. Bullying this woman who is deciding whether or not to come forward reminds women who might be looking at the midterms why they don't like him. I mean, obviously politically, it's not smart, but what? Why would the president do this Kellyanne Conway from the very beginning had been saying she shouldn't be attacked. She should be heard. She was doing what she could to undermine her credibility, but but in a much more subtle way than President Trump was, why would he do this? Because that's how we think so. And he can only restraint himself for so long. I, there's no tactical reason to do it. So I mean, but, but it should be sad I on forgive me, but he he, the president has a long history. In fact, with Matt, let me interrupt you because in the same tweets of the president called had Kevin a quote, fine man with an impeccable reputation. He has a history, the president of defending men who have been accused of horrific behavior with women. Take a listen, say, obviously, tough time for him. He says, he's innocent says, it didn't happen. You know, you have to let them all in person. I don't think Bill would do anything. It's very shed because he's a very good person. Now, all of a sudden this saying these horrible things about him and this is it doesn't Trump eight what the other, the tweets and they also attacked me like this, right? The worst possible thing you could do to make the case for Brett capping off is for the president to associate cavenaugh with him with himself and. With all these other can all these other guys, rob porter, ROY Moore, Bill O'Reilly, and Roger Ailes all of whom President Trump was there, a defeat a defending and basically expressing sympathy for them. He's not the best character witness. We can put it that way. I think I'm with Jackie on the point that this is the worst possible thing you could do. If your goal is to try to keep this from being a complete political circus. So Susan Collins prior to today's tweets had actually been pretty clear look this. We need to get the show on the road. We need to hear from both sides. We need to have a vote. Let's stop having this get drawn out and made into a political circus and it seemed to me that that was the right position to take. Let's move on. Let's hear from both sides. Let's take a vote instead of drawing this out. This takes it up to a level of political circus that is before unseen that now you are adding the Trump factor to what was previously already a very difficult and right and sort of divided situation. Of course, President Trump has been accused by several women more than dozen women of sexual harassment or assault. And in fact, at one time I think it was during the campaign. He actually suggested that one of his accusers was not attractive enough for him to have sexually assaulted tickle, listen. She would not be my first choice that I can tell you now. You don't know that would not be my first choice. I don't know how to respond to that. Honestly, I, I also have to say what I think is most depressing about all this is I don't think the truth is relevant. Honestly, I think that the Republicans are running a process. The president is certainly running a process to get this guy through the the, the the, the Senate is not looking into the facts and trying to figure out what's true or false, whether he's ready for a lifetime appointment, they're just trying to railroad. This through. There could also be said, Robbie that the Democrats are not interested in the truth either they are just doing everything they can to defeat wreck. I think there are politics on both sides of this. I was gonna say, I mean the good Senator from California had a lot of information about the story that was sat on until expedient moment completely kind of under. I mean, if this had been something that had come out early on, you already had brick Cavanaugh under oath. You could've asked him questions about it. I mean, this is for sure the sort of. Search for truth like actually have been pleasantly surprised by seeing the way Senate Republicans in the judiciary committee said, okay, well, here's our offer. What are you not comfortable with pieces of this offer for how you can testify. Okay. Well, let's talk about it instead of Monday, Wednesday infringement, doing a pretty good job so far. I think in terms of focusing on victim and her rights, there are two things here. First of all, she has said that she was that the Senator Feinstein handled this the way that she wanted. And I think she her what she wants and her views on this matter. And the second piece of this is the Republicans at every point have done a worse job than was done for need help to well, because first of all, there were other witnesses allowed to testify. The Democrats controlled the the. The party, right? They and second of all the FBI was allowed to investigate and I just White House called for the FBI Republican, Bush White House, right? The Republicans who who nominated him. So I just think we shouldn't pretend like there's a search for the truth here. There's a search to get this guy confirm. All right, everyone stick around. We got more to talk about red wave or rose colored glasses. Why Republican leaders are seeing a much different picture of the midterm elections than President Trump is stay with us. Soccer fans are you? Tired of missing great UEFA games and giving soul crushing spoilers from friends, good news reports, new VR live that helps you watch all UEFA Champions League and wait till you wrote the league games hunting because live should be live, no-one third-party sites, cramping, your style of scouring the internet for updates now with b. our live super easy to get started, download the app to be our dot, live to more live over in subscription purchase and additional terms may apply. Politics. Now, the New York Times reporting that Senate majority leader, Mitch, McConnell and house speaker. Paul, Ryan privately told aides that President Trump needs to sound the alarm about a potential, huge blue, democratic wave hitting Capitol Hill as c. n. n.'s Joe Johns reports, Republicans are hoping the president will get the message because the midterms they say, could get messy. The message from Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell today, keep the faith, don't get rattled. All of this, his bottom line, forget the supreme court controversy and vote Republican. We can hold onto the Senate majority for two more years. We're going to transform the federal judiciary. The president who's predicted a red wave in November, modifying his message on the stump Thursday night in Las Vegas where he was joined by endangered GOP Senator dean Heller promised fate. You gotta get out for the mid, don't be complacent. Gotta get out for the mid though Democrats hold a narrow path to the Senate majority. The president is not holding back calling out, Hellers opponent, Jackie Rosen by name, sort of vote for Jackie as a vote for the extreme agenda of those people. Next President Trump heads to Missouri as part of his ramped up campaign schedule ahead of the election. It's like this. It's like this. If somehow. Has a cold. We don't have a majority that day. It's like we have to have more Republicans in office also tonight the first Lone Star state debate between Republican Senator Ted Cruz. And democratic challenger. Congressman Beto Rourke crews got a boost Thursday from Ivanka Trump with the pair turing Houston's Johnson Space Center. The president is expected to hold a rally for cruise next month. All of this that Senate Democrats need a gain of just two seats to claim the majority with such a slim margin top. Conservatives are sounding the alarm. We have a very tiny majority. The political map for the midterms this year still tends to favor Republicans, retaining control of the Senate, but they are looking over their shoulders because Democrats have been able to create more competitive races in states that President Trump won, and the party in power tends to lose seats on Capitol Hill and the midterms anyway. So it's the tug of war between what the map says and the political environment that's got Republicans worried, Jake. All right, Joe Johns. Thanks so much guys. Take a look at CNN's key races map for the Senate Tennessee, Arizona, Florida, Indiana, Missouri, and Nevada CNN rating them all tossups right now Trump is making campaign stops and just twenty four hours Nevada. Last night, Missouri tonight, do Republicans actually have a reason to fear losing the Senate. I understand the is seriously in play, but the Senate, the map is so friendly. It's so many. So many strong Republican states where Senate senators are real life. As a Republican, I feel better about the Senate than I do the house. But what's odd about the Senate is that while you have so many potential pickup opportunities in places like North Dakota, where you have a democratic Senator representing quite red state, you have a situation like Tennessee, which is a pretty red state that might actually elected democratic Senator because that particular candidate just has a positive brand image in the state so perform. It's less about the political environment or distaste about Trump in that. It's just about the candidates involved. And I think you've got a couple of other races as well take the Florida race. For instance, you've got a Senator and Bill Nelson fellow gator. I'm not supposed to speak ill of a fellow gator, but who I think is sort of been asleep at the wheel and hasn't really been campaigning in that state, which even in a tough environment for Republicans in a state, that's a pretty big swing state where Democrats have may well pick up the governor's mansion. At the same time, you have a Republican in Rick Scott winning that Senate seat. So sometimes it comes down to candidate quality and just how much are they willing to work and how much do you think Trump is a drag on. Republicans, obviously in some places like Nevada, dean Heller who used to be a sometime Trump critic is is relying on President Trump to help get out. The vote. Republicans are squeezed here because if they try to run away from President Trump, their base is going to be deflated. And I frankly think it is really hard to make the case to any of these voters that at this point in the cycle that Republicans are standing up to him credibly, and I think it's too late for for dean Heller to do that for Republicans as a brand, but Trump also matters for Democrats. And what you're seeing here is Republicans are worried that we're going to have this massive turnout imbalance. I remember I was working at the democratic congressional campaign committee in two thousand ten and you. This just happens. You're basis deflated. When you're in power your, you know your, your governing your people get disappointed about this or that thing. And the other side is charged up. This feels a lot like, you know, the opposite of two thousand ten or like two thousand six. You can just feel the momentum going and more racist coming. Online and we're starting. I'm starting to see polling, racist, hide and districts we wouldn't have even during. And I think the Senate is coming into play, partly just because that's what happens when you get one of these big ways and naturally red states. Well, guess what? The democratic incumbents hang on and then they lose one or two. They don't expect to lose. And suddenly it could be fifty one forty, nine and the other way. But also I think this recent, the last week, the cavenaugh stuff has really reminded voters that find if you wanna flip the house, that's a check on President Trump. But actually, if you wanna check, President Trump and other things you might care about, maybe you wanna flip the Senate to. And so I think it's funny about checking President Trump rhetoric that was entirely house focused up until about a week ago. And I do wonder whether some this is of course not a huge, but one two percent of swing voters and now thinking, gee, maybe my Senate vote, I also need to be worried about checking, President Trump, maybe I voted for him, bad voted for public as in the past, do I really want a rubber stamp for President Trump's appointments in the Senate. So I actually think that Senate isn't play Jackie. It's really interesting, Nevada, the race, there you have an incumbent. Publican Senator dean Heller, but that's a state the Hillary Clinton one. And president President Trump was just there singing the praises of dean Heller, but acknowledging that there was some bad blood. Take a listen. We started out, we weren't friends. I can't meet in like me. And as we fought and fought and fought believe it or not, we started to respect each other. Then we started to like each other. Then we started to love each other. Isn't that nice. No, I think I think dean Heller realized that he needed President Trump and President Trump likes to remind people that he that they need him. One of the things though that dean Heller did we talking about cavenaugh he made an off handed remark cau- calling. What's going on right now with Kevin on the accusations as a hiccup. We happens to be running against a woman who is a sitting member of congress, and you can't make mistakes like that in this election environment. So he made a also made it harder for himself both by saying by that gaff and by cozying up to President Trump hours away from a debate between Texas Republican Senator Ted Cruz and his democratic opponent. Congressman Bill Rourke, the cook political report just labeled this race, a toss up. It used to be leans Republican to tossup. I'm old enough. I've been hearing since Republicans took Texas that it's going to go back to blue any day. Now I'm very skeptical of it. Do you think Ted Cruz is actually in trouble here? I'm can call me more skeptical of the. Tossup rating. I think this is the race that Ted Cruz is likely to win, but it does go back again to candidate favorability. Ted Cruz had problems with his favorables even for folks that are Republicans pull the lever for publicans all the time. He fought and fought and fought with President Trump. As you may remember during the Republican convention in two thousand sixteen made a few enemies then. So it's one of those things where you have a candidate who's got a lot of energy on the democratic side. Progressives really liked better work. They think he's their chance to finally get that get Texas to flip blue. But I think call me skeptical that he will be enough to sort of tip that St. appreciate it. We're minutes away from the deadline. Republicans have set for Christine Blasi forward to respond to their latest offer for hearing, will she agree? Will she testify stay with us. Hello gas people, how you do that? Voice was SIMS. I'm left co. You know us from podcast called Simpson left go, but now we got a new show. We get a little different. We're kind of going to be big time going, talk ball. I'm gonna talk sports and culture too. I'm gonna teach SIMS. The internet. We're going to have players onset. We're going to go out and mess with them. It's going to be a lot of fun. It is. We're going to be on the streets. We're gonna be talking to fans. We're gonna try to educate everybody and have a good time. So check it out the be our app, eight PM's on Wednesday, eight PM shut up. International lead President Trump has been sounding. The alarm warning that democratic victories in November will mean the spread of violent gangs often invokes one of the deadliest and most violent street gangs in America. MS thirteen and CNN's original series. This is life. Lisa Ling goes inside the fight into how MS thirteen is tearing apart. Immigrant communities across the country, armed with tactics of seduction, co, worship threats. MS thirteen has had no shortage of potential recruits over one hundred thousand unaccompanied minors have arrived in the United States since two thousand fourteen and most are vulnerable to recruitment. Under the cover of night. I met one such target a young teen recently, reunited with his mother after a decade apart. How old were you the first time you saw someone get killed. You were nine years old. Did a lot of your friends join them? Thirteen. In all Salvador, turn on my friend and Julia Mesler. That's what happened to their lives to them are at the or rating. And the host of this is live. Lisa Ling joins me now at Lisa. Congratulations on the series. Thanks for joining us. Thank you for having me. So President Trump talks quite a bit about MS thirteen. He's obviously trying to scare audiences and they are a very dangerous gang, put it in context for us though how serious of a threat to the United States is MS thirteen right now. Well, context is really important and MS thirteen is a very complicated issue as a whole. So I really hope people will watch this episode and read the piece that I wrote on CNN dot com, but is our national security at threat by MS thirteen? No, the FBI estimates that there are over a million gangs in the United States and thirteen accounts for less than one percent. They are however, a very serious threat to to Central American communities throughout the east coast and even Los Angeles. And the level of savagery that they perpetrate mostly on on on fellow teenagers is is really disturbing. Most of those teenagers. In the last couple of years are unaccompanied minors. They've come to this country traumatize. They don't really have relationships with their their family members who've been in the United States. They they are desperate to find places to belong and MS thirteen. They're experts at these seduction tactics or they're also experts at using force. Well, how much of the thirteen problem could be taken care of if the border was secured. I if the flood of or the flow, rather of undocumented immigrants into this country was at least slowed if not stopped. Well, the president suggests that by by closing the border gangs will not be able to come across anymore. And since two thousand fourteen over one hundred one hundred thousand undocumented children arrived on the border unaccompanied minors, and they estimate that only point zero. Two percent of them had any gang ties. So the gang is already here. This MSN. Teen gang has been here since the nineteen eighties. It's a gang that evolved in part because of the US government and what what the community really needs right now is they need community outreach, certainly increased law enforcement to combat the gang, but social services helping these kids deal with trauma. And we interviewed one person in the episode who actually was able to leave the gang alive because he had a religious conversion. They say, when you join MS thirteen, you will eventually end up in a hospital, a prison or in a coffin via only way to to leave. The gang alive is to become a Christian, and they will test you. They will watch you. If if it's not an authentic conversion, they will kill you. And so when you talk to the people in the community, law enforcement social workers, church leaders, what else can be done to try to stop the damage MS thirteen inflicting we only have a little time. So I think maintaining community relations is the most. Important thing being sensitive to the needs of of this undocumented unaccompanied minor population and and and trying to ensure people that they're not going to be deported if they report information about MS thirteen to with authorities or at least willing. Thank you so much. 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"Get your first three meals free with free shipping by going to blue apron dot com slash crooked blue apron is a better way dirty Dean Heller to cook the presenting sponsor pods America is Blue Apron for less than ten dollars per person per meal Blue Apron delivery seasonal recipes along with preportion ingredients to make delicious home cooked meals all the comings and goings at the White House the Mooch has been fired long live chief of staff John Donald Trump the most important part of the memo in my opinion is the fact that it quotes former Obama director of Communications Dan reports directly to him not trump that all information and access to the oval goes through him and then he has complete authority over personnel decisions recording today a memo leaked Mooch put together a full communications memo which mostly wasn't crazy I will say it was really So John Kelly was the homeland security secretary a took the job based on a few demands that he had he demanded that everyone wrong place there he says to quote Obama Director of Communications Dan pfeiffer there's an insatiable appetite for content international news outlets don't have the resources to produce the amount of Asto we are recording this portion on Wednesday evening because I'm out of town on Thursday so get ready for breaking news on Thursday morning I guess I know rip to Your Winston Out of your Thursday morning can't wait can't wait to see what happens okay lot has happened today let's start with attended the Internet requires on twenty four seven basis so create your own content look look what you've done day and you've created a monster well I take full responsibility for the urge and trump with that is actually from an interview I did with backchannel which was which is tech publication right at right as I was leaving the White House which he used to fire Anthony Scaramucci on Monday also today as Raccoon Watt Nick The guy who helped Devon newness come up with his what I don't think it was like outstanding but four what we would expect from the Mooch it was pretty good a few highlights from this memo number one number two V craziest part of the memo in an otherwise pretty normal good memo was for example poses the Best Golfer to serve as president perhaps America I'm Jon favreau on Dan pfeiffer later on the pod today John Lovett we'll talk to Nevada's senator who's not Dean Heller Senator Catherine Cortez when pfeiffer Dan you made Mucia's memo I know he misspelled my name though which drives me fucking insane yeah can you do the double effort it's interesting that you wrote communications is customer service and Portis is the number one customer of course everything is about pleasing donald trump in this White House had paragraph in there is about how you have to be very careful to not do propaganda and it was as much about how the Internet is about unmasking conspiracy was fired so it looks like Kelly's making a few moves we probably start with the Moocher gone also a rape before that embrace it with a national online lottery play round of golf with him or a charity auction what'd you think about that I didn't well I think it's pretty sure it's illegal one and eight a propaganda operation which is sort of funny because the they don't need a propaganda operation from the White House they have one called Fox News Broadcast Twenty four the two that actually ladders back up to number one which is communications customer service in trump is our customer who likes to think he's the Best Golfer ever I think he said it on Fox News which is state run TV what are we doing so any lessons that you've learned from Mussa's brief tenure hours a day on like everything they could ever want you know they have a propaganda network that was the funniest part about the mood you're saying we should have state run TV history to serve negative days in office well I would I say the memo is a thousand times and the other thing about this is is this is a different level of a different game than ever played his there was a tweet from Kevin route probably one of the more sane documented has passed through the trump administration but the I think the lesson here is there is a reason and I see us with full software and the chief speechwriter or any sort of White House aide you are under scrutiny new half to have the discipline to do the job and just being super smooth that'd be for disaster I don't know how this guy gets anyone to work for him it never turns out well doesn't matter who you are yeah it's just he will turn on you breath when you're a guest on the five is not actually credentialing for doing the double I'd ask me instructor which is something to keep in mind next time you see someone appeared the the way Mooch was officially supposed to start on August fifteenth he was fired before he was officially supposed to start he he's he's the first White House staffer trump and he does he keeps people like Seb Gorka around despite their Nazi ties because he likes the way they yell at CNN right right so that seems unlikely but like just in a vacuum it's other lesson is that trump really will throw anyone under the bus anytime there is no loyalty there like this you can you can give up your life give up your career go work gorgeous written words in the White House get written words so images but don't do propaganda he missed the second part of that which was don't do propaganda because what then followed was how do we create this is very different I mean maybe it's the same thing as being trump's press secretary but is very different than being tricia what communications director is not the same thing is that people go from White House communications director to cable TV pundit and not cable TV pundit to White House couldn't communicate stricter they're two different things and being good on Fox News very smooth and polished on television which is what everyone sort of lost their minds about when when did that first press conference in the briefing room and he was a former self pleasure you never he never did that never did that about accident or if I did I did it off the record sorry I don't know it's not White House communications director do TV sometimes I did it sometimes but it is there's an inverse relationship between how good is getting all his info from the BUG television it's not like people are giving him bad memos are warring advisers telling him other things he's just reading the chirons and then tweeted or the trump White House and inevitably you will be thrown under the bus you will like your dignity will be lost it is it's just Rhodium perhaps look into his background but and maybe you'll realize he wasn't necessarily crazy hedge fund guy wasn't necessarily qualified to be the White House communications director you are as director and how often your cable TV Green Room. I think I did the job for well over a year before ever did a single television interview now I'm not as smooth as the you get humiliated hang around only to surface and get humiliated again so maybe maybe he wins in the end is that he gets he only had two ways smooth and Polish everyone's like Oh maybe a new era will be ushered in and said you know what instead of just like watching them on television and judging him based on five minutes at a p what is the best way to to stop bad info from getting to trump is call up comcast cancel the white houses cable subscription to let them watch and so he's trying to limit the bad INFO and he's doing this by controlling access to the Oval Office by controlling which information trump gets I mean coach by any stretch of the machination possibly could be but I do know enough about the call Ryan Lissouba in accused my fellow White House staffers for particularly he is making fire these are the basic tenants of any management job ever ever reporting structure have a process so the political story came before we started to Kelly has realized that the real problem is that trump doesn't have the ability to discern good info from bad info asfaw that's what he's doing some I read that politico story and I got a couple of thoughts and some Brennan things but part of this is we it's crazy I thought and it some of the stuff in there about meeting with the press in treating the press better I'm not sure ever executed on that if you're number one customers is the person the White House except maybe McMaster yeah but we are treating the first things he did as like he it's necessary I I said before this that was the test if if Mooch Gavino all these other people I think Jordan Avakian a little bit in fifty hours of his life and he can go back to being rich and smooth and I don't know beyond waters world or something whatever would be interesting to him so let's talk about Kelly rattling off stats wow like trump is sitting in these meetings about North Korea told that even trump appears to be trying to impress his four-star handler picking up his game by acting sharper in meetings and even you will whenever your reputation is when you start and John Kelly Watch we probably be the test at US yeah whenever you reputation is when you start it will be destroyed in this process relgious and scream and curse say crazy things but no one reported what he said because no one cared who he was once you're what else communications director and you're under real scrutiny or when I was pressing it may be your survive and get to continue being humiliated for longer than the mutual at least they put out of its misery the could have been like Bannon or some of these other people your adviser what do you mean she's finally started coming to meetings what are we doing I mean God opening up my email this morning this is a financial journalist who works in the near time now who said any win after the Ryan lives a call that anyone who has covered Wall Street is used to getting calls like this from the Mooch in reading axios and seeing what Jonathan Swan had from sources in the White House told him was probably Steve Bannon said coach I think look I think Kelly is an accomplished human being in his life and he is a serious professional person which makes him very different than every basically emasculated priebus in the beginning and he was like theon Grade Roy chief-of-staff just incapable of one who would go into a management position in that scenario right he did establish wines with our that everyone reports to him which that the guy who accused the chief of Staff of felony and said that the chief strategist likes to suck cock like that he fired that guy that it seems like the basic move of any as to get information to the boss control it's it's the most basic things and we're like I mean good God look at the change he fired the margins right I think that again it's fun to talk about the move it's fun to talk about Kelly it's fun to talk about all the Max Dynamics at play here and until one of those or a multiple of those change nothing nothing big is going to change in this White House I have some he I think it is very likely that Kelly professionalize the White House and makes it run better where they can ends trump feeds him a steady stream of new conspiracies and a Republican party that enables him at every turn those those to me are the three larger it probably electoral co whose electoral college victory three million three million illegal voters like this is this is a meeting about tax reform what are you saying nations in the White House with all the different staff members but when you zoom out or what really matters is the larger dynamics we have a seventy one year old in margin's having Kelly their matters and we may really appreciate that when we get to a world where we have to lift the debt ceiling in the White House as President who shunned zero propensity to learn grow change in his entire life he got a Republican media the defense races happening one day you probably want a professional in that job right yeah look I think it it may improve things on of exerting any sort of authority and Kelly will be different at a general chaos stature and so if your hope is that the trump the house will collapse on itself in pure chaos Kelly probably changes that yeah I mean as it American worried about like an actual national security it's hell that things are different they sullivan could trump at a senior staff meeting she is on the senior staff of the fucking White House Hersi your title is senior what is the name run right it's right like where there will be processes to do things and some of that will minimize the craziness from the White House because if you create a tweaks but trump is trump trump will still do crazy things he will say crazy things he's incapable of learning I don't John what's your idea was that makes it reduces that right and I think Kelly will do that and I think people are at least in the early stages afraid of him no one was afraid of rights priebus positive America's brought to you by squarespace squarespace used by a wide range of creatives people's in businesses your first purchase of a website or domain with squarespace maybe dirty Dean Heller can use it to Make a website for why he lied to the people of estate squarespace musicians designers artists restaurants and more make your next move many can actually make your next move with a website with the Oh good Jesus staff and we had many of them create a process where everyone gets to weigh in and then they if you feel like you're heard than you don't necessarily call axios until Johnson's bad news for you none of those things are going to change anytime soon we'll that you are correct correct that on the thing peoples around the world various peoples come to swear space make your next move to says it out of the Blue Make your next move lockdown your domain and creative 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We wouldn't have known that had politico not pub- I mean the president I'd say slide he made up a story they decided to withhold it they were proud that they withheld at the there and there's been just concern about it that he is putting his thumb on the scale any hard to say yes or no until you read that looks could use one he's had a week he's a bit of a we have a bit of a leak you can choose the kind of as you want from Swedish and sport too deep tissue in more you can even opt for a couples massage set the length of your get some soothe get a soothe massage at nine thirty pm on a Saturday night great and I just fell asleep on the couch with old time mother is a whole massage thing going on in the back of my house it's a very the journal apparently in a call with their staff they said you know damn right we kept the transcript I mean it's just not really on the level Dan yeah well you know I remember when Murdoch bought the told him his jamboree speeches the greatest speech ever made to them we later found out that trump never received a call from the leader of the boy scouts that was just a completely fabricated story he's at about what about it afterwards and they said Oh we just we printed everything that was newsworthy and always decided to withhold is some of the crosstalk that doesn't really make sense and that's not true interview transcript and the main he basically walked in the Oval Office ordered crawled directly up trump's asks for the interview I mean it was sick is this I think there are coupled interesting dynamics dynamics of this one is there has been if you sort of read like media reporting that'd be the Journal and reading we're beginning to see the impact of that of that transaction under a couple other things that are one I think the asking conspiracy bullshit which has since then been proven bullshit while the Journal's news side a new story in the Wall Street Journal was basically debunked where I just they ordered post mates I came over and I just said whatever you're not having that's my post meets and then we had to soothe on demand massage if I was like eleven or twelve midst myth misstatements or lies in the part that was not released by the Journal Opinion Section is attacking her for no good reason through that said that Paul Ryan was born in a Petri dish the heritage foundation welcome to pods being the fact that she was involved in anything on toward it was it was amazing it was like you actually have a news story that saying that this is sort of bullshit but you're is I'll never forget the day where the Journal Wall Street Journal editorial attacking slandering Susan Rice about this this interview and the refusal to release the interview transcript you're not you're not you're not holding the prisons feet to the fire of you're going to protect him from his own building the wall Paul Ryan Paul Ryan the great policy walk of Washington now now schilling for an unworkable ridiculous policy a joke it gets me so worked up it's it's like all my list of blood pressure rules don't eat salt don't talk about Paul Ryan the Donald Trump wanted a policy that he said just a few months ago would never become law what an embarrassment I know Paul Ryan is such you think of the president's lying to the Wall Street Journal The Wall Street Journal would want to do something about that right so so that is one and then you know vanity has great story recently about inside the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal seems about right did you see Paul Ryan's wall video by the way the other day on twitter just just the whole video from Paul Ryan like Fox News and people were concerned about that he said a few things about how basically they had to be that was attributed by SAMBA's behalf to be friendlier to trump it I will say Paul Ryan very cleverly threw the hand grenade back at Mitch McConnell on this healthcare thing with the skinny bill when Paul Ryan the epic Battle Between The Wall Street Journal New York Times and the trump dislike scooping the New York Times right in in article there's a line that says you know what it's odd that it's the post against the time it's not the Post and the Times Journal whereas the Journal will the answer to that question is in Steve Bannon at a you know yeah that's Bannon in the that's right Josh Green Book I feel like it's actually Bahrain was born panic it was just very strange way for journalists to do an interview with the president which is probably why he would not let the transcript be released and then they ras according to our friend Daniel Dale said his name yet Daniel Damage from the Toronto Star who pointed out that I think there were and did not guarantee that they wouldn't just vote for the skinny bill in the house like he said he'd go to a conference but he didn't make a guarantee was a very carefully worded statement there journal there was all there was a lot of people were very concerned about how this would go and people were like no the journals in institution it'll be fine or I'm not gonNA APP based night you had because I think there was posted as post mates riposte weights you're here posing with us I did eight that's one of those occasions Susan here this ad I think we can get it done that's a great idea let's play this show and you know what if he falls for this that's on him for not listening to this is the test don't take guys and it was so funny because basically Mitch McConnell Thursday grenade at him and throws it right back with the statement and he did play a part in actually stopping the whole the skinny bill from passing do you think that was intentional or he was trying to give himself like what what do you think the goal was their goal is you can see it in the statement that that somebody against you and try to get you out of the Senate I can believe all those things and still respect him for speaking up and like he did which is more than I think that as liberals we should have expected him to do something courageous on healthcare because that's not what he believes and that's fine if that's not what he believes great we're gonNA run will he's not even some like Susan Collins type he is a traditional conservative in the mold of Paul Ryan and so I don't a new book called the conscience of a conservative and he pretty much eviscerates trump and this book a few excerpts that were published this week he blamed nick in Republican adjusted terms is I think a decent human being I think he is in it for most you basically almost sell people in your state down the river so to avoid a primary challenge which is exactly how his party Republican Party saying quote we all but ensured the rise of Donald Trump He takes an implicit shot at Mitch McConnell for saying that his number one priority and the threat he poses to our values our institutions would you think about this I don't know because I'm my initial take one a lot of people in his party have done but I think what you can criticize him is it's a lot of words like it was a lot of criticisms of trump with trump's lies like marginal figures who would later be embraced legitimized by far too many of US attacks trumpers lives for conspiracies his affection for autocrats and strongmen his executive overreach I WANNA see Jeff Flake replaced with a Democratic Senator for Arizona because Jeff Flake positions are very conservative he is not some moderate he's not some liberal isn't trump's conspiracies and what he's done you know his coziness with Russia and what he's ends institutions but he hasn't even done anything as a senator on those issues to to check them it is a fair point I think healthcare is slightly different the sense that what I know of Jeff Flake there's no way he thinks that Franken Stein even if you Mrs not I don't know that they're a bunch of Republican senators who would allow that who would allow that to be uttered out loud and Jeff Lakewood but then you do things don't vote in a Democratic House the Republicans in the House are doing everything we can to deliver on our agenda it just gets stuck in the Senate they're the ones who have the problem I think that's what he was doing the right reasons and has shown shown political courage on things like immigration in the past and he has a very good friendly relationship with Brock Obama thinks the house does crazy things I mean that's that's how it goes Right actually yeah they are let's talk about Jeff Flake Jeff Flake senator from Arizona is out with is well that's fucking great chefs like why don't you actually do something I mean he for all the things he said like Jeff Assuring Obama's defeat said that was a problem goes on to say quote it was we conservatives were largely silent when the most egregious sustained tax on Obama's legitimacy or leveled with McCain out there his his fellow senators out there standing up stopping this whole thing and flake decides an McCain saying Oh because my governor and you do do you remember our twenty ten state of the Union where Obama was running through the list of things that the House had passed want to repeal the affordable care act you have physician closer to McCain's I think Mickey I think flake in his private moments completely gruesome McCain is probably very glad that McCain's spared him of having this bill implemented in his election year but it was you're absolutely right that it was particularly cowardly of him that even uh-huh and the Senate had not and they basically in a world with a huge democratic majorities in both sides almost started yelling at each other over it I do remember that which is a reminder he didn't do anything on Tillerson he sits on foreign relations committee hasn't really been outspoken from his perch in the foreign relations committee so even things where you say okay up like Josh Barrow wrote a piece about this he said you know flake hit trump's protectionism but unlike McCain or sas he voted for trump US trade representative's what is he doing on Russia yeah but I think we as progressives can hope we should be holding flake accountable going forward for whether he lives by those the Democratic senators who tried to be critical of Obama and then get his voter turn out struggled your it's a similar situation it that Republicans Democrats who different parties but the House and Senate also don't like each other no they don't and it's a it's a lot of competition in the house thinks the Senate goes to slow the Senate may be seeing a few cracks here in the in trump's support particularly around healthcare basically after this last healthcare failure trump read a couple of threads that was basically one it's domed to think that just because trump agreed flake disagrees with trump means he agrees with us right arts and but we should also just not be in a world where demand that people speak out against trump and then shit on the second they speak out against institutions some of crazier tweets all that shit see I agree with that I read a lot I was about to just unleash the twitter fire on this and then does the right thing and if he doesn't do the right thing then we can go back and say you're full of Shit but this may it's going to be a slow process to get the Republicans to actually lake but it seems like some other Republicans in the Senate and some other Republicans in general their support for trump is starting to slip a little bit we but he's disliked by Democrats and independents and some of those Obama trump voters for embracing unpopular policies trumpcare so he's really not White House keep saying we want another vote we want to repeal and replace still we're not gonNA pay the cost sharing reduction a solo and I'm getting the worst of both worlds right now which is he's hated by Republicans for shooting on trump and he's he's always fending off primary challenges from the right it's fine if you want to have your conservative positions obviously we're not going to agree with you there you know he's he says he wants to take on trump but he hasn't really done anything to take on trump's attack on so you know from a book respecting my understand why they are do what they do for moral perspective it's fairly indefensible it has been interesting to watch not just tie the president's hands on a foreign policy initiative that he wants to pursue is pretty extraordinary in showed what the level of fear with in the Republican Party and everyone in Congress about how trump is compromise and I mean that in a policy sense tax reform and be some of them are saying you know what we want to pay those cost sharing reduction payments because we don't want to see a whole bunch of people lose their health care so that was pretty interesting Not doing too well from self yeah this is a Harvard because from a I understand the political calculus and Tim Tim Miller talk with us you know my governor said he didn't like this because it cuts Medicaid and none of that phases flake at all he just sort of you just said nothing just went along with everything didn't show any bit of Carjon healthcare thing You know Kudos now I think so the senators are you know starting to go their own way and the congressman we've seen some drudge headlines DRUDGE starting to turn on trump if you notice that yeah I don't really have a feel for what that means like drudges you anything about trump in so we we can't expect we can't expect all of it now flake may want to have his cake and eat it too but no one else wants to have cake yet so let's let it let's let it play out action spell yeah I mean in the first six months or so of the presidency for baton over only bipartisan majority majorities of Congress to you ended up with trump to begin with it's that sort of political calculation and not willing to stay on billy for that gets us in that place yeah I mean look my view on this is and news outlets and then I mean if trump's starts getting drudges just drudge but if trump's starts getting worse coverage in the Republican media in polls go all up and down but he's having a particularly tough time and I think how he's going to respond to this and we're already seen that but I I think it's still feeds like it's it's still drives traffic to quite a few reps websites unfortunately quite a few news agencies since he started the presidency since he began his presidency he's stuck around like thirty six thirty seven thirty eight percent now again you know we've seen before anything happens signs of this is he's going to play to the base and not with economic issues which is why a lot of people say he won this thing there would be undone business heading into the August recess or the Christmas recess or you know one of the many periods in time it's would congress is not working and he has encouraged them to essentially investigate racism against white people yup that's about it laying twenty thirteen it's funny every time we would often be in a situation we were in the White House where after they're hoping Congress where and we're going to let the whole obamacare collapse and so far the Republicans in the Senate and even in the house aren't really budging and they're saying a I don't give a shit what you say about healthcare we're moving onto the are we should not gloss over the fact that the Republicans almost to a person did it pretty extraordinary thing in passing the rushes Mr Bring family members into the country they want immigration to be based on skills and your ability to speak English and then they sent out C. Plus Santa Monica fashion well and I'll say he's really not having his cake and eating it too it all right now because he is the he's the least popular Republican senator in the Senate his approval rating Jim Acosta basically quoted from that poem as a way of asking a question about whether changing thing but with cultural issues so he gave that speech to the police last week where he advocated police brutality story in the New York Times but trump then you will see what is also starting to happen a little bit in some of these polls which is his base support starting to slip a bit and he is he's pretty much at his lowest approval rating maybe also in a sense but definitely pastas compromised by Putin Enron to do things that are so far outside of the mainstream that they had pass legislation with veto proof majorities in understand the hundreds of political calculus Republicans are not running from trump because the Republicans most likely the ones who trump and so if you piss them off it's not like you're a bunch of progressives who want a Democrat there so you can take the Senate back we're going to be like well I appreciate it Jeff Flake did something to support him right and it's the same thing that all those red state South America had freedom so they would emulate us and then only later probably with some liberal snowflakes added this poem forced him to sign it which is a pretty pretty extraordinary thing yeah they got lost in the coverage but it's a pretty big deal yeah no I mean look I think it's I think it's Stephen Miller to the podium Who had quite an exchange with JIM ACOSTA CNN? He accused him of Cosmopolitan bias. Because I don't know a cost I love Stephen Miller accusing Jim Acosta Cosmopolitan bias Stephen Miller who grew up in Santa Monica and went to Duke is accused because he demanded they do something and then there is like the other point I would make that we should not in the in the world of being eleven esque straits straight shooter someone tweeted the Stephen Miller is a great argument against bullying color is the word actually in human form actually Jim actually and that guy sucked Stephen Miller who and I would take that idea and I would go up to our ledge office and I'm guessing by this idea and they're like you can say that but they're all going home including the Rome mystery to me in the world but it is how am I guess is how influential do you think drudge still is I do not know I would love to get some data on that acting the civil rights division of the Department of Justice to investigate ensue colleges over there affirmative action programs thank you need to be very specific with that it's a it's a any communication means it is let's be like Truman let's go tell them to stay in until they get it done it's like the plot of seventeen west wing episodes I mean all of this stuff though the the most interesting about the immigration legislation that they propose today is this White House knows full well that this immigration legislation will never purely to get headlines and send a message to their base that we're with you and where fighting for you and what you want and then there was today which trump proposed legislation that would cut legal immigration and half by sharply curtailing ability of American citizens and legal saying this approach immigration was was a change in America in the end sort of American values within the state of the Union on the liberty and began to treat the Statue of Liberty as a place to welcome people so they can have liberty someone's that's what got even Miller's someone said on twitter that Stephen is like trying to sessions as there was like the equivalent of someone like making spotify playlist for their for their trump right we have to let this play out a little bit so he wrote his book he's probably GonNa Sell Shit little books because he did spot but see there's going to be moments coming up we'll see is you know an anti-immigrant sentiment and Obviously you know discrimination against white people and all this kind of stuff they are doing what trump did in the worst talked about the Statue of Liberty I don't know there's this whole controversy around the Statue of Liberty and the Emma Lazarus poem and what was that I barely as of the campaign in the darkest days of his campaign to sort of rile up the emotions of of some people in their base the sessions talking about all the economic stuff he wants to do or has done because he will not have achieved much of it I'm sure he'll be bragging about you know if it's the case till then the stock market the Stephen Miller said actually Jim I don't want to get historic about this but that poem was added later hopeful sign I don't think we should throw hands up and cheer and all is well now and the Republicans are going to be courageous on everything but we can we can look at that one moment and say good job prince immigrant students that they should learn to speak English and go back home that Stephen Miller for you tell you about why he ended up where he did Kratz in you're gonNA look like an asshole so you will have pissed off the Democrats and you're gonNA look really weak and trump really needed so I'm going to tell them that that's a bad idea other people have got Stephen Miller who like was booed off stage in his high school when he was like trying a run for student council and then would walk the halls telling imagine it was engraved on the Statue of liberty that those are our values and do that but also take the conversation that we have to take back economics bannon and Miller filling vacuum here with Rice gone and it's worth noting General Kelly for all of us services this country was a immigration gene John's avenue that a real thing that would happen is the government the United States via investigating racism against white people after Barack Obama was right as I was walking into the studio in the having says White House distances itself from poem on the Statue of Liberty and I was just like okay I'm done yes gets particularly interesting because sessions and trump as we know for the president's counter on the outs sessions so the serious question here is I mean this this is how the campaign will be run in two thousand eighteen and then twenty twenty like there will be no trump barnstorming banning miller and I think that those two specifically will be trying to peddle all of this cultural stuff and trying to gin up the culture wars he's having a press conference on Friday talking about his leak investigations he's hitting all this is one of your terms he's hitting all of trump's erogenous zones trying to get back into good graces in Babol Blah and he'll do all this crazy shit but bannon and Miller and that part of the White House like I don't I don't assign any strategy to Donald Trump himself but I do assign strategy me might be non-partisan but he's not some non ideological technocrat who became a general like he's he definitely is in line with trump on some of the immigration stuff so could assu each other it's still there I haven't changed this is sessions mixed I it's it's he's trying so hard to get arm now I've seen fairmount appalling in my life and democratic tax reform plans poll worst than almost anything in the world except Republican tax reform plans and it is the least Cutty no-one in America who ah in two thousand eighteen and the question is how do Democrats respond to this that's a good question I think you're right th there's a little bit he's a another general like he is more is much more in the mold of trump in terms of his beliefs and his ideology than mcmasters he's not just some you know nonpartisan I feel like Exxon and Google and G. 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They're paying too much in taxes that's the biggest problem America it is it's anytime soon and so if they want to run a cultural base play we have to capture the economic populism part of that and which is ask Congress they are doing things like this and this is still in the DOJ thing obviously has legs because you know they can control with DOJ does and the cases they prosecute but they are doing this stuff populism from trump yes and one of a great advantage that we are going to have in that is the Republicans are hell bent on trying to pass tax reform the question is what a Democrats do I think Democrats have to push back very hard about American values and you know despite Wendy poem on let's cede one inch to these piddling white supremacist wannabes but talk about pivoted to the ax with all the songs that reminded them why when they fell in love number would sessions is like remember my racism that originally hard-liner on when he was a d h s and that's why trump picked him yeah the Briscoe Bach for the job a strong enough way on a consistent basis so that it broke through I'm sure she said the words but it didn't didn't really breakthrough and I think that the next I mean their goal is to pit white workers against Brown workers against black workers and they're gonNa try to pit men against Women they are going to see acts of being caught even if you gave a really economic populist speech that day the you had to respond to trump's insane thing that became the I think Democrats running in two thousand eighteen twenty twenty or going to have to really hit that message even harder and it'll be somewhat easier because we won't be the trump will be at the WHO is not a corporate CEO or Paul Ryan Acolyte things we should cut the corporate tax rate Americans trump supporters are not walking around going you know and I don't think I think like Hillary and her mind somewhere probably one to do that and just did not do it with her message at least in Anthony in do it fast and do what hard and run a very aggressive contrast campaign against trump in the republicans add we need to be right all right when we come back John Lovett talks to Nevada senator. WHO's not Dean Heller can heller any money but we have not yet recorded my conversation with Senator Catherine Cortez maskco Catherine Cortez Maskco and I just want you guys to stick around because it's it's like the original intent that he he was eighty original intent was to show the rest of the settlers was to show the rest of the world trump was able to define the controversy conversation Goule run democratic campaigns can make it be about Tom McClintock Darrell Issa or macarthur any of these Republicans that tend to try to divide anywhere they can and I think our goal has to be using an economic message in other messages to try to you it'd be that a bunch of ways that it can convince people trump's a fraud they can show that we're the ones really fighting for the economy but don't get sucked like fightback on our cultural values for sure is in trump had this tweet the other day that was corporate it was like a Fox and friends with someone was on Fox and friends it was like or an and a DMV employees? 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going to get this right the first two guys and have good practices that I can talk to my colleagues about and talk with Senator Schumer who has initiated diversity initiative here in in the Senate Latino but the first female senator from Nevada but more importantly to me it is about now being a voice at the table right having a seat at the table having a voice diversity from the podium of the White House briefing room yesterday when Stephen Miller who is a c plus Santa Monica Fascist gave a speech in the briefing room pain trail and I don't know if most people know I I'm half Mexican my my grandfather came from Chihuahua Mexico he crossed the border because he okay let's see if he does it he go you download the cash app correct five dollars is going into your pocket and five dollars diversity and we've had great conversations and then the goal for me is to implement some of those action items and tear down those barriers here in the Senate in my office and the basically saying that they were going to pursue this rollback on immigration even saying that the poem on the Statue of Liberty was actually added later and doesn't really count check on Donald Trump and his administration because there is no room for discrimination divisiveness this hate and this type of rhetoric in the White House or anywhere is co where my father and my grandmother were born and brought them to Las Vegas and it is no different than so many other families that I have met you have been going nuts on postman tell you we're too lazy to leave the Office Nancy hot it's hot we're on a busy thoroughfare there's not a lot of greenery the advantage trying to pit people against one another in demonize Mexicans who are trying to claim that there are illegal in a basically saying to the Mexican president talking about the walls important politically but I just need you to give me the space to keep kind of banging that drum without having to get the money and we have to fight against it they're still trying to play out this game which is harming people and harming families and tearing them apart and the other piece of this his which is so contradictory to everything that he claims that he wants to do if he really wants to grow this economy and have a positive economy cross our government and the people who work in our government should be just as diverse as the people we represent that's why when I was Attorney General of Nevada I felt very strongly about that project in Nevada and the reason why they have come to this country for that opportunity to succeed I saw on the campaign trail was donald trump using for political is this country and engaging growth then we are going to embrace imigrants across this country and we are going to fix our broken immigration system by passing comprehensive immigration families here they contribute to our economy it is a win for Nevada and so by continuing down this path demonizing them is just to me offensive notion that they're trying to this false sense of statistic that they keep pushing out there is just wrong and they're using it to promote a political agenda so you originally in an opportunity at that American dream he served in our military he became a United States citizen he brought his young family From Las cruces new Max it's great that part works just we're doing the post mates out that's the one we're using now he's opponents great and EVATT and bad they weren't positive he download the cash up donors choose gets five dollars again this is a wonderful organization that donates money and you can pick the classroom restrict immigration no not at all it's actually false the studies show it and literally talking with people in my state they're criminals the rapist killers which is absolutely false and I have been very clear I have no problem bring a reducing even legal immigration would help increase wages for middle class families that this is competition for jobs and that's ultimately a good reason are Latin Chamber of Commerce in Nevada are individuals legal immigrants who are here who have opened their own businesses contributing as well so this whole from Mexico that he goes sort of conceded that this is a political position he's taking for his base which makes it worse I it's disgusting and it's something that I dealt with on the reform because we know and I've seen the studies not just alone in Nevada that by engaging and comprehensive immigration reform and keeping the the state of Nevada and Las Vegas we are very strong in Las Vegas in Nevada and tourism right and conventions and many of our legal Immigra particularly the businesses in my state who rely on legal immigration to help them keep their doors open and contribute to and so those are some of the reasons why it was important and let me just say one final thing John the most exciting thing about all of this for me is when I get to meet Young Latinos precision with Secretary Kelly we had I had the opportunity to talk with him and I said are you know you should be focused on the violent criminals I was attorney general of Nevada an argument which trump is making on the trail and that we've now seen in the White House briefing room but you also kind of see intellectualized version of it which is an economic argument do you think that there is any truth to the argument that Arcana me in the in the state of Nevada they will tell you the same thing they are not connected to one another and in fact what's interesting you know I so I come from he's talking about my family he's talking about so many other families that I I know and I fight for every single day you kind of see two arguments you see the demonization undocumented individuals than we deport them but we do not tear hard working families apart who are not violent criminals in our communities and he said has been the lack from the top down of written protocols and policies on how these agents should utilize discretion and we didn't see that gotta eight years and I know working with Federal State and local we we address violent criminals we want to hold them accountable you WanNa lock them up and if they are all of this because I think this gets lost in this discussion what I'm talking about our our families and kids that I have met with I've sat down around a table to to go and even report crime to law enforcement which is not what our local law enforcement want in the state of Nevada and and I've heard there have the incidences of people who are undocumented individuals who are working hard they're going to have a job their kids are going to school they have committed Zeilinger population and what I have seen is this fear people afraid to come out go to work send their kids to school because there is an ice call attractive part of this American dream and who we are as Americans and now there are threats to deport them and if not we're not going to do that and I said well you are doing it because right now I have somebody who has committed a moving violation and he's being deported and that's the only thing he ooh crime they now get a moving violation of traffic ticket and they're being picked up and being deported which was contradictory to my com you need to protect their parents we need to move down this path of addressing those all the undocumented individuals who are here and really solve this problem and we can our patrol car in the neighborhood sitting near a school so I've had principals I've heard from I've heard people are afraid you staying here and getting that education and working hard but that to me is just the first step we do have a broken immigration system and we need to pass comprehensive immigration reform take an action on DACA which is the deferred action for children in Donald Trump's say that is a very hard decision for him to make the same time there's been this increase in raids now coming out of this administration like we had seen it in the previous administration and that is very very concerning to me and let me just put a face on every single business that I have talked to support illegal immigration in this country because it contributes city-khan it keeps the doors open and quite honestly work in the field of tourism They work in our construction industry they work in northern part of Nevada we have agriculture they work in agriculture and Osama these kids these dreamers our kids who have come to this country at a young age this is all they've known their only crime is troubling Hanser who need that access to that healthcare so they can get

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It's going to be a bonus episode we're GonNa Release the Saturday we all saw the movie on Monday night argue about that which is it should be a good conversation also Dan today's Today's quite a day we were actually recording early right now we're also going to talk to the Chair Hillary for America and counselor to President Obama former chief of staff to Bill Clinton John Podesta few update So you'll get that on Monday anyway I hate to do this but let's start with the Mooch last the news poor them and sent her clips every five seconds so okay so on today's Plod we are going to get a trumpcare update from friend of the POT Senator Chris Murphy will be Simone Sanders former Bernie Sanders press secretary enjoy an read of MSNBC lots going on Dan wow the about some of these other things because we're all going to die anyway at the takeaway I have to say it was like me Reading The New York magazine story was scary enough and then actually it's pod save the world this week Tommy Talk to David miliband the President of the International Rescue Committee the twenty million people at risk of starvation and I yeah so we're doing a special interview with Al Gore about an inconvenient sequel truth to power his new movie which is now pundits he's very smooth on television Dan very smooth very effective very savvy operator so that's what everyone says while the Cable News said we're dumping Spicer I love it or all going to be at Politico on Saturday which is in Pasadena here and here in good old California and we are going to have a live show their and our guests this is my life I'm actually yesterday called me I was basically I'm basically the crooked media media monitor all I do is just read twitter all day and update people on the dire state of early okay so here's The tweet last night in light of the leak of my financial disclosure Info which is a felony I will be contacting at FBI and Kinda across the Middle East right now it's an excellent episode go listen to that and also donate to the IRC helping refugees worldwide on with friends like these an episode which should oh anyway So yes I'm going to go and then we're going to men we're going to talk to Chris Murphy then I'm coming back to the studio we're going to call customer so we're going to save this healthcare discussion to the end sit here read my twitter feed and we'll just comment on it as we go so basically a day in the life of the crooked office that's right or just let's try to untangle so much of this yes okay so the White House communications director who works approximate we some sort of intelligence operation in Libya this is this is something that will be available the White House will would announce that it would become public is that it is called a financial disclosure form so I know I know he went to Harvard law and all but like at that Harvard law class also friend of the norm is same class also our friend of the pod Ron claim was doing this morning Louis a hundred and fifty feet from the White House Chief of staff decided the best way to resolve this dispute about a his leaked financial disclosure night is we were as we were all getting ready for bed there was a tweet from Mooch Anthony SCARAMUCCI new White House communications director I was told that we mood he's going to be much better you gotta dangerous these dangerous because he's much much better that's what we heard so you're better than spicer can the word disclosure might give you a bit of a clue wait the Mooch went to Harvard law he'd have I have ever heard him the Justice Department Hashtag swamp at Ryan's forty five what the fuck you and I and they put a press release with it at some point so that's one so I thought long I'll give you the way that the Mooch may have may have gotten a hint I've been politico and I guess he thinks that Ryan's did it well I got a couple of things about this did you read the New York Times the Peter Baker Story About Tommy love at night and now we're going to interview Al Gore out can I ask you a question about this you sure can given what you now know about climate change should we not even worry he actually tweeted a copy of a financial disclosure form and it actually the title of the former executive branch personnel public financial disclosure her was to tweet about it with absolutely horrendous punctuation like periods where should be commas not sure the tagging was made it sort of hurt the brain Asia and we should say by the way that that Ryan Lissouba was reported we've been reporting on all this broke the news last night that scare Mucci was talking about rights art and you can circle public you see it right on the form so there you go so anyway this so his public disclosure form public as it may be ended up world like the Andrew Bates or pack any of that's right that's right dairy legendary of Obama clips people those who are media monitors in the White House but they did all day is just watched on June twenty third which meant that as of July twenty third any person reporter writes random person the street friends of the pod could all is rights did not who may who is very clearly a huge leaguer everyone knows that he spends most of his time rounding reporters when he shot by the RNC they would bring reporters in and explain like as recently as a few days before the election they would bring reporters and explain really about the goings on of the trump campaign in the so yeah okay so that's one too but did not leak this and we know this because anyway turns out to be the least of the problems but yes at least the problems but it still bothered me so I think we should we spend a couple of things one the mentioned that he he never mentions he went to Harvard law I have to say an and he apparently went to Harvard law with Barack Obama and so I don't know what's going on with it gene when when when Mooch was confronted with this information he did not respond he does the did very late last night I did so Peter Baker was texting with the Mooch and when when he informed sort of trump white house experts like Haberman and Farrar from the Washington Post right confirmed as well it was so but here's the most important part about this sort of now we should also say that he he did he started this tweeting right after he had dinner with or probably at the end of the dinner with the President Cleveland wrote a series of New York Times piece is called Tuesday's with rights where he would sit in with writes in his office and just sort of wax eloquently about the or inelegant United States the first lady the disgraced former Fox News executive bill shine and Sean Hannity Can and was accusing Ryan said this he said he could confirm that so he confirmed that on twitter and that's what sort of sent everyone you know crazy and like all the they referred to the official Department of Statement referred to Anthony Scaramucci by on a first name basis anthony not even the Mooch just anthony which just ask for it to send an email asking for it and the political reporter who did this according to somebody right on twitter this morning said on the radio that's exactly how she got it mood decides to go tweet this which he then deleted deleted the tweet the White House communications director accused the White House Chief of staff on twitter this these financial disclosure forms is you say are available for public to be requested by the public thirty days after their filed the Mooch filed the mood that I asked him if he was specifically accusing Ryan of doing it which he did not respond to that taxed and but he responded to subseq-subsequent death with Anthony there's been too much leaking in the White House and the Justice Department promises to go after any leaker who leaks classified information it's like what what is that of leaking something about him that would become public anyway but wasn't even leaked because it was already public and ask the FBI to investigate something which is not a crime action Russia maybe by like you know I think there was only like five votes in total opposed to it and then said if Ryan wants to explain that he's not a leaker let him do that see your financial disclosure form a government official is a public document yes is not a class this is not the classified plan to get al-Baghdadi or the in the event and the justice like why was the Justice Department putting our Justice Department releases a statement in response to this saying hey we what is going on I think the Mooch is flying a little close to the sun today all in my convinced myself this talking point I would go out saying all the time well you know it's hard to imagine trump winning but no one is ever won the nomination without winning Iowa Hey I was doing my pre pod research and I was looking for a politico story so I went to the political homepage and like I think leakers have been hung for treason one hundred and fifty years ago he compares his relationship with Rhinestones Cain and Abel We remember that one of those brothers killed the one in the Bible said it's irreparable says that said that trump may in fact veto the Russia sanctions the bill that overwhelmingly passed the House and the Senate wow that is a big week for crooked median of America it's a big week and our live show we should say our live show at politico. That's going to be this Saturday afternoon. That will be the Monday pod into CNN. While they were interviewing while Chris Cuomo's interviewing Ryan Eliza and just goes off and this phone in interview he says White House four of the ten top headlines on politico this morning have SCARAMUCCI in the headline so smooth Dan so smooth Out someone who had job at this Michi has that's right he's as qualified communications director as I am to run a hedge fund Bley girl from whatever her name is another Fox News anchor and so they're all sitting around the dinner yelling about riots and then or New Hampshire and so and I said that over and over again over and over again and no-one corrected me no one tweeted anything different no one if only we had more business people and government that would bring so much better yeah I I never really bought that and then when I left government and went into the private sector for a few years I bought that even less at the trump campaign and poke him out that had trump winning Iowa New Hampshire by huge margins on the pulse and I somehow yeah and the other thing I'd say is I have been why does communications director and I have been a cable TV pundit what else could they so the more frightening personnel story here is the fact that the prison United States this week has been will the shakeup will the shake fix the White House's message early signs are good early signs or go I didn't you guys talked about this on Monday I just like to point cared it's also totally wrong when you're White House communications director you say something wrong everyone writes a story about it and the RNC puts out a press release say what Obama needs is he needs to bring people in from business to help run the government better and we tried we had some like Jeff Sciences who very different jobs and what else communications director is exponentially harder and so it's two separate skills because when I left the White House over last night because moods like deletes the tweet everyone moves on and then I wake up this morning hang on I was a text from you I think where Mooch than called in businesses to run the government wasn't the best idea perhaps with I guess the upside is when we were in the White House everyone would always he also tech sessions for not firing acting FBI director Andrew McCabe because apparently his wife wants ran for office and got a donation from Terry McAuliffe he's just going on put aside the off camera briefings the the lying or the trump administration is perhaps the most transparent administration in history coming bunch like CNN's offices as a contributor as I am today it was during the during the the the threatening and verbally abusing his own attorney general for days probably yeah there were many tweets over the course of the week from Donald Trump and statements but maybe the one that it took the title away from us that's right 'cause like we put out visitor logs we released data we did things like that but had the SEC or Penny Pritzker is our who our commerce secretary and there were some but the trump White House is proving the fallacy that these that a- attacking jeff sessions all week because he's angry with sessions because sessions refuse to help trump obstruct justice and end the investigation into potential collusion between the trump can he's no good definitely run a hedge fund better than he could be White House communications director I'm not so sure I think my son pardons he's asking about his power his par- pardon power all that bullshit so he's clearly musing about these things now the question is is he musings I guess the question for me on this is is this just the rantings of an angry disturbed man yes or or I do Jay was trying to get back in the good graces right everyone of the trump White House so then you think this is he would fucking fire Jim Komi he did that yeah I I one hundred percent think he's going to do this or I I think the question is all the other pundits so I don't know if it's trump saying while they're saying it on TV why can't I do it and then you know he won't actually do it but I don't know we know one the Russian government I I don't even this is pretty frightening well the I guess you could say in some ways the trump in just crawl out of the White House and shame and he's clearly trying to do that with sessions and I think if he were to fire sessions there would be backlash it does he fire him which trump does not fire people for all of his bravado and toughness he is afraid of uh-huh holder very weak on fast and furious so it's hard actually firing people like just basically embarrasses them until they quit on their own I'll wash on spicer basically turns them into such a public disgrace that they why it was not the RNC's fault that trump was gonna lose and so they are leakers that is one time I think it was everyone else in the White House this is not making you make him unique yeah I mean racism sesame sesame ges efforts to put more people in jail and sessions effort to rush to suppress the vote so they'd be pissed about that they'd be real setback to the which is the the stakes are so different and he's so ill prepared for this and we are seeing it every single day yeah it turns out that getting a bunch of rich people erases vote voter suppression agenda but if trump can make sessions resign than what is Paul Ryan going to say it's it's centers it's well I mean we there's reporting in the post and the Times that he is openly musing about you know replacing sessions ending the probe all this other kind of stuff he's asking this could be with Fox that you could end the network I think if you did this well except he he didn't really succeed it is one of the greatest moments although the fact Tucker Carlson is now in Bill O'Reilly's slot just communicate something directly to Donald Trump. May this this is my big chance I mean this could be I mean I think you should do this I mean by backlash I mean a lot of Republicans putting out statements of disappointment and I think there'd be some people in the base who really enjoy sessions is about them and talking about them because there's lunatic pundits talking about these things on Fox News and Fox and friends where he goes every morning by the way Dan I have to tell you job from firing unless there's congressional review which is actually something I believe that Lindsey Graham said that thing he will put out a statement disappointed and then he will show up at the White House put his shit the shipping grain he gets on when fewer people have healthcare and Ritchie so apparently you know they're still trying to draw that line and Ryan World but I don't have a lot of confidence that Ryan would do anything if he fired muller do you know of course the to help rock Obama Close Gitmo where he has promised to help put in place a bipartisan cap and trade system and where he has taught talked about trying to pass immigration reform Lindsey Graham has as much cachet with his Republican colleagues as I do good that's okay he is dramatically increased the number of Sunday show bookers who will call him on Friday and ask them to appear on the show I have also been in meetings with Lindsay Grammar he has promised the president in one of his cabinet secretaries ever got into a fight we didn't tell people I mean that is true we would not brock Obama would not tweet at at Eric holder okay well there we go and also though Chuck Chuck Grassley no friend to the Liberals tweeted last night that are you there was a request that came into Kirk media for me to appear on Fox and friends what are you GonNa do it well it's a couple of days late What Paul Ryan Brennan Buck he's doing the able job of a spokesperson for a man without a spine and he will regret that tweet because Paul Ryan will do where is the rantings of an angry disturbed man who was also trying to create the contacts where he can get re and the Muller probe there will be no confirmation of a replacement attorney general in in two thousand seventeen of trump does this so now we of course we should Oh Ryan's spokesman beleaguered spokesperson said Said no no he was just talking about sessions he wasn't talking about Muller's fused confirm Rudy Giuliani. I do not believe that you think you'd think data you think they confirm Rudy yes yeah maybe I think Lisa Murkowski because yesterday's they I think they asked on Tuesday it was about my tweet on the new democratic slogan which I made I I only made fun of the silicon because of colons and commas okay like if these guys end up going nuts on trump because he fires sessions or because he forces sessions out it is not because they've had some wonderful I don't think he put colons and commas in your slogans but anyway because of that tweet they're like oh I would love to have John on Fox and friends I think they made a mistake which made me want to say yes in maybe if I go on Fox and friends the and and Collins or collins and Graham or collins and someone else would say no but they would get to fifty welcome to Pod Save America I'm John Ruining the country still is is is tough to swallow but anyway so yes so all of these people are suggesting that he fire muller the you know the Hannity's joint we're GONNA have to like there's going to have to be massive massive protests resistance people in the streets because that is just going to I mean usually if we the whole point of this in trump I think can also he can also does live than acting attorney general he can he does not have to make it be Rod Rosenstein people have more money in their pocket and stand right behind trump and kisses but like that's what will happen and it doesn't matter don't pretend like Paul Ryan has any history change of heart and are now you know protecting the Senate in the country and all this kind of stuff it's because they really liked jeff sessions and as you pointed out bitterly everything Jeff says sends has done as attorney general has been wrong an awful except for the one thing that Donald Trump wants to fire him for which is recusing himself from the Russia investigation. Now Lindsey Graham this morning just before we started recording talked to reporters said if jeff sessions is fired there'll be holy hell to pay any effort to go after Muller could be the beginning of the it was also asking a question about firing muller to and everyone thought that that Paul Ryan has basically given him the go-ahead to fire Muller and then Brendan Buck on twitter the end of the trump presidency unless Miller did something wrong and Graham said he's drafting legislation to protect the special counsel three of moral courage he does not and so I understand he was trying to Brennan Bark may have been in power and who may have been they are not going to deny donald trump his attorney general rudy it'll be someone else terrible jeff sessions's choice what am I to do we we already heard what Paul Ryan he was asked about this and he said well the president's personnel decisions are up to him and then I believe that Lindsey Graham you want to wait and see the legislation would like that to happen I think Lindsey Graham also believes that by saying that it is the only good thing the jeff sessions has done in his entire tenure attorney general I also don't one of the things that people I think you guys talked about somebody that the Republicans would the latest prep you for it excellent again you've ever win Jon Stewart on crossfire yes ended an entire generation of cable news shows acne correct here that maybe what he's saying I'm sure he went back and ask Paul Ryan like what do you think this but when it happens we know what Paul Ryan will do because it's what Paul Ryan always does take any almost anyone that criteria is pretty broad to who you can pick to be you're acting attorney general and just let that person fire muller it's the is most frightening was when he tweeted Attorney General Jeff sessions is taken a very weak position on Hillary Clinton crimes and Intel leakers it's basically the the Saturday massacre from the Nixon era yeah fire and people to you get someone who will do what you want and making the acting attorney general and look if we if we get to that got to that point that would be the beginning of impeachment proceedings for sure but with Paul Ryan in this House and the Senate I you know it doesn't don't have a lot of I hope that's where we're going to get to so I can I say one thing sure that will in like the run up to the election we dramatically understated how fucking terrible our President Donald Trump has been for seven months now as part of the Russian government's efforts to help and support Donald Trump right that was like ten ten days two weeks ago and so on we're seeing I mean it's only been six fucking months and it is this like steady but shore erosion of Democrats hiring muller in overtime and that allows Sean Hannity and Fox News and and sort of some Republicans to build this case about yeah I mean look crazier and more incompetent than we ever possibly could have imagined look I think that when he when he first took office being hyperbolic about it right where we stand today and this is most evident in the roll out of the transgender policy we're about to talk to is special council is now running a whole investigation into the president but you know it's just it's Tuesday and now which is on TV screaming about things so next one week ago rights freedoms norms institutions whether it's with the media whether it's with you know how he beats up on people and bullies people whether it's like the you know what are the consequences of the way of just the constant leaking about what is people are thinking and the trump administration and then he has decided to ban transgender individuals from serving in our military he cited medical costs and disruption very sad very alarming you look at the aw ten days ago we learned that Donald Trump's son his campaign chairman his White House senior adviser at son-in-law met with agents of the Russian government the Senate now about to try to pass this health care bill bye completely like breaking the institution and going around all the norms that you usually have in the Senate like so it's slow but sure but of course it's only been six months it's actually has been maybe faster than we think but it happening and it's not like every day you wake up and there's something sure of how bad a president trump would be and a lot of people a lot of reporters pundits said that we and Hillary in particular time policy move at the time and who knows where it will actually go so yesterday trump tweeted that after consulting with his generals he likes to call them his generals which is very authoritarian him trump's tweets about things is he normalizes something like we are right he is slowly getting we're we're GONNA spend weeks talking about him for power and and trample on freedoms immediately and there was going to be sort of authoritarian state like there's a little fear about that right but that hasn't happened right but what y like to arm people with their talking points to defend trump on this and make it okay as opposed to trump's just doing it right and so huge that has just happened it's just all these crazy fucking stories that at the time seem like one off that just build and build and build and build until one day we're going to look around and be like what the hell just happened politico story that talked about how this happened and it's even crazier apparently some House Republicans conservative Republicans wanted to get rid of a measure like we spent all this time people were like Oh yeah he's probably gonNA fire mother like yeah that's probably going to happen and then when it happens like I thought that's probably going to happen so let's move onto the next thing right I mean he the it's the in a bill that would have had the Pentagon pay for gender reassignment surgery moderate Republicans thought that that would be discriminatory to the one I think there's GonNa there's a lot of fear that there was immediately going to be some like Reichstag fire moment and he was going to become this dark authoritarian and take these very conservative Republicans went right to trump in the White House and asked him to step in he said let's go a step further and just ban transgender Americans from serving altogether something that the House Republicans weren't even debating so some a senior congressional aide Republic who remove that measure I agree of course Mattis General Mattis the defense secretary also refused to upend that policy and so things are life is coming fast well let's talk about the a major policy thing that happened yesterday what appeared to be a major policy thing at the congressional aides said it was as if someone asked trump to light a candle that was on a dinner table and he just set the entire table on fire just the and then I sat there for I think it was like six or seven minutes waiting for the next thing to come like what what is the thing our generals can no longer allow is it fired comey like and we thought that was sort of like the end of the world and now it's like of course he just fired comey and now we're just trying to figure out what the what the you know we're trying to get the new FBI director in there career to have a nuclear weapon his you know we can't allow Iran to be part of this deal is we can't allow them United States is even with everything else going on is fairly my especially with all the fucking reporters and pundits mm to continue to sell kit cats in the mass like I don't know what the deal is and I have to say that was this was not what I expected to see coming and just the CR- the cruelty and capriciousness of something like this just being tweeted out by you spend all the time telling us how trump would differ from other republicans because he lived in Manhattan and therefore he would care more about LGBTQ issues and would be aircon currently serve in the military in fact one of them Kristen back was a member of navy seal team six was there for the bin Laden raid six month review and trump just decided to upend this without really consulting the Defense Department he just sort of told them beforehand Madison's reportedly very upset about this I'm she's got a bronze star purple heart and more courage than most people in this country this whole thing about medical costs is ridiculous the military spends five times I woke up I can't believe it was only yesterday but I look at almost the exact moment that trump's sent that I tweet and at the briefing at the White House briefing yesterday Sarah Huckabee Sanders couldn't answer any questions about what would happen to current troops who are transgender How the implementation policy in these are long painstaking careful deliberate policy processes that take work and then when she was asked more questions about it she threatened to shut the briefing down you and I are both in the White House when Brock Obama rolled back the don't ask them much on Viagra as it does on Medicare for transgender troops other than we should know is General Mattis was reviewing their policy on having transgender American serve in the military wants to be don't tell policy made a whole bunch of changes even beyond that that affected allowing women to serve in combat Lord different than the farmers were Holbrooke's who came before him and it turns out he's just as big nestle just as big of an asshole I mean people should know about this thousands of transgender is your policies around the benefits for same sex partners or people in same sex marriages that affect a lot of military long Asian of it because especially in a situation like this where you're affecting the lives of the very people who were depending on for national security they're going to have questions you want to be able to answer them so they understand how it affects ons were you have you know you're you have meetings at all levels of the government with coordination were you and then you roll it out you have you have figured out the implementation commander-in-chief decided to tweet in the Senate very conservative Republicans came out against this move Richard Shelby from Alabama McKee and instead of doing all of that trump just sent some tweets I mean the joint chiefs according to some reports heard about this from twitter and there were people in the Pentagon saying Chuck Grassley Joni Ernst Orrin Hatch these are not you know these are not your more liberal members but of course there's a quote from the one who when they saw the first tweet thought we're curious whether trump was announcing a strike on North Korea apparently the joint chiefs just really sustainment said there would be no modifications to transgender policy trip for current troops were serving right now in they're gonNA continue to review and so they are slowing this entire process down despite what it's them because that affects troop readiness people don't know what this means for their lives and you do all of this and you know as communications people we want to get this out now we want to be able to answer the Blue Collar voters respond when Democrats are forced to make their opposition a key plank in their campaign fuck you that was the most cynical thing I can imagine it's also the stupidest trump White House to Jonathan Swain axios that said the person said this forces Democrats in rust belt states like Ohio Michigan Wisconsin to take complete ownership of this issue how will the tweet making actual policy takes time and they didn't do that like the proof that this was a political decision that you know some say was made to is plan right now is to pass literally anything they can get fifty votes in the Senate so he can move the entire process to a we're moving very fast by the time you listen to this podcast you know a lot of this news might be old I'm going to read a quote from a Republican aide just now to Kaitlin Owens at axios now conservatives in the house are saying there is no way that they would pass the skinny repeal as it is right now but as we've seen a million times in this healthcare young and healthy people wouldn't be required or incentivized to buy insurance the Congressional Budget Office says that this plan would lead to sixteen million uninsured N. A. The current plan that can maybe get fifty called skinny repeal ridiculous name it's a repeal of the individual and the employer mandates that say that people have to buy health and sort of throw some red meat to the baser upset about trump's attacks on his beleaguered attorney general the proof of it is is that they didn't ask anyone they just did it without thinking about the implications so it's obviously any percent premium hike twenty percent Ted Cruz one said that the test for the Republican Party should be whether their bill lowers premiums this does not by any standards air debate things change every second and statements that people give are no longer operable five minutes later because no one really cares so the only way to provide in for affordable health insurance was to include a requirement that people get health insurance and so if you take the mandate away what that means is the healthy her on this and no one cares but it's not skinny repeal it is just repeal without replace right that's what it is guys let's do idiots guide to healthcare policy because conference committee what's a conference committee when the House and the Senate passed different legislation the conference committee resolves the differences it was made up of a few Republicans from the house a political decision? I don't like these people really don't he's got to be honest with you I really don't like that we're on the fence we should move on to healthcare so yeah no they all know that this is a bad piece of legislation they know that this is a bad process and they none of them Wanna show the courage to be the one who get into the insurance pools which lowers premiums which is why even though Obama oppose the mandate in the two thousand campaign he was convinced that it was the didn't ask premiums go up so you are this is repeal it with no alternative to solve the problems the Republicans claim they want to solve yeah right like these people are so dumb it it is really mind boggling 'cause it is a really dumb thing to think it is the floor of the Senate for a final vote there are no changes no amendments allowed upper down vote and then if it passes it goes to the president for signature if not at dies and of course the other right because then all these conservative Republican senators from the Mid West say that they're against this to the joint chiefs don't like it former defense secretaries don't like it earns that employers have to offer insurance and as well as the medical device tax a tax on medical devices so small stuff but because people leave the insurance pools the it gets riskier for the insurance companies prices go up people can't afford healthcare that's sixty million people lose what are you what are your thoughts on this latest bullshit then well I think we should Stop Clients Guinea repeal I'm I'm for that I've been howling into the wind is a horrible horrible piece of legislation and I mean this is why one of the Republican as was calling the car crash is all these Republicans Buddy Carter who were like threatening physical violence on female senators over this Buddy Carter said somebody needs to go over there to that Senate and snatch a not in the violence. Cbo Score on skinny repeal. Sixteen million uninsured Dean Heller on skinny repeal we'll see at the end of the day it's in it but overall I think I'd support it is not what they did this bullshit it's exactly why they did it if they did in any other way than they would do an actual policy review you can make a political decision in the time it takes to craft you moron just even know what to say about Dean Heller Even though working on it I six years is that the best I can do the reason the mandate exists which forces healthcare is it means that healthy people to pick one of the two paths he he can ask John Kerry what it's like if your position is you voted for before you voted against it it it never plays well this describing the healthcare efforts right now this is a Republican senator this is like a car crash everyone slows down to look no one helps McConnell never plays well so I mean everyone donate to Jackie Rosen's campaign Rosenfeld Nevada dot Com let's get Dean Heller out of the Senate sender not all of them there's like half of them that are just morons we'll do whatever Mitch McConnell says but a lot of them that have been undecided that had been thinking about this that voted yes and no on various measures they all isn't even dumber thing to tell a reporter like you're not this is people have so little self awareness of their own stupidity that they think it's a smart thing to say and they think it's ask about Murkowski in Blake Fahrenheit challenged Susan Collins to a duel so that things are going great there Dean Heller couple questions Josh earnest or Jay Carney Rubber Gibbs's Guinea beat up at the briefing we're like no we can't say anything until we get all buttoned up and dot the I's and cross the t's yes and if you from the Senate they meet in secret behind closed doors they come up with whatever bill they want they can basically start from scratch when they're done the final bill goes to the floor of the house because he's being promised all kinds of things McConnell for what happens in the committee in the committee. There's no doubt that this repeal the individual mandate repeal employees weeks ago when he voted no on the motion to proceed to this bill voted no said quote I cannot support a piece of legislation that takes away insurance from tens of millions of Americans and hundreds of thousands of option is that this if the Senate passes something that gets fifty votes right now it could also just go back to the House and the House could vote on that and then it would go to the president way which is it is bad for his state but it is a different political strategy is to say I have all Iran's and I was going to repeal obamacare I have Medicaid cuts fairly there you know math genius and that's okay with them so they're sort of on board now Rand Paul who was a no vote he likes the the skinny repeal so it also bright not Brady there and then you know there's John McCain he came back and you know he's he's dealing with brain cancer he's just he's politically playing this terribly terribly like there you can do one of two ways like I think you you guys like those Hausky over her no vote said Alaska's relationship with the administration in terms of energy production energy jobs was in jeopardy that you think that would be illegal and to get back together and work with Democrats and work with Republicans and go to the committee process he does all these things and we will now see if John McCain votes against the your scandal but will probably just be like the thirtieth craziest story for today and like there's a bunch of googlers in the house Blake farrant hold Sir and obviously that's a tragedy and we we really hope he gets better and he gets the carry needs and becomes back to the Senate and he gives this speed sure because collins was an early no because he was later no and there's a story this morning that's completely insane where the Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke threatened Marthe people think they're smart if they say it and then you got a lot of tweets from reporters were pretty closely source of the White House saying this is not the sentiment in the White House the on so far he hasn't taken the final vote yet right if he takes the final vote and it's for this bill then I will pile on double on John The verb to McCain means to say things that sound really who is the final vote to knock this thing down and kill it none of them want to stand up and do that Dean Mother Dean Mother Keller let's start with him let's get basically act like a bunch of preteens at a Justin Bieber concert and then do the exact opposite of that is no and look history McCain but hope Springs Eternal Your mandate repeal will turn into something larger that basically does cut Medicaid which is John Cornyn gave away the game yesterday when he said we're GONNA take care of Medicaid in conference committee I thought was pretty profound I think where he said something to the effect of being cynical and then surprised is not bill which will not include the amendments that he wants for Arizona that his governor asked for and will not be a regular process if it goes into a secret leaded let us do some bipartisan shutout Susan Collins Lisa Murkowski who are people who have shown courage and integrity in this process and I disagree with them on a lot of issues when we come back we'll talk to Chris Murphy about healthcare and what's going on on the floor we'll get an update soon we'll be right back positive American eighty like this so I don't know I don't know how John McCain votes for this and doesn't render the speech he gave the other day complete bullshit I was going to yeah and if I lived in their states I'd probably vote against them for other reasons but they deserve plaudits for the way they've had huge plaudits and like look in Susan Collins has been like this for Awhile Murkowski was under even more pressure in eighteen he's probably our best best shot at a Republican to defeat and then like Shelley Moore Capito and Rob Portman somehow have decided that an extra all of a bill right now we all know that I have changes urged by my state's governor that will have to be included to earn my support for final passage of the bill he calls for bipartisanship he calls for people became and because then he has increased cynicism not just in his career and what in his words but in all politics and for all politicians right he's done something real plus during National Mako will month as we all know we all celebrate it legalzoom's pulling a bunch of helpful resources together all in one place to make it a little easier to ensure your family and assets escape being optimistic and disappointed as sort of a life and so I am going to try on optimism on McCain well and it's not even here's courageous and bold and maverick and calls it causes reporters to lose their mind with enthusiasm and love in Wjr where he says let's return to regular order he said you know I vote I'm voting for the motion to proceed to allow debate to continue amendments to be offered but I will not vote for the bills it is today it's a shame era you know forty five billion or one hundred billion in funds for helping people who get kicked off their Medicaid is GonNa make up for like seven hundred and fifty billion dollars for now check out legalzoom dot com for special offers that are coming your way if you have a family or anything you care about you won't want to miss out people are killing me no pun the he's not going to do the right thing we should know this by now and it's like you know no I'm not predicting he's going to do the right thing or not predicting I'm just saying if you lay out exactly what he's say right now I was GonNa do what I often do and say John I want you prepare yourself you're going to be disappointed here but then love it Senate tweet the other day that I I heard Dr took a turn goes are you having a nice Saturday you know that grim death comes for all of us the Sun Chiding acted my will is one sentence says burned all from trump tower keep listening we'll have more information in August ooh tune in to find out more yeah I was GonNa say an all I'm saying is no one should give John McCain a bunch of credit for that speech the other day but no one should condemn him yet we just gotta you gotTa wait for the final vote and then we can all render judgment okay Lubbers become relative genetic network computers teachers here keep reading you can even participate in a feature called DNA relatives and find people who share similar DNA with you you may find that you share DNA with friend known your entire life could it be guys I can't up in the meantime save more by entering crooked at checkout legal zoom dot com that's legalzoom dot com enter crooked enter quicken America's brought to you by twenty three and me fun twenty three and me dot com is a genetic service that provides you with DNA reports about where your DNA comes from around the world cool so you can basically explorer eh but one solution one view is I'm 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a trip and travel to locations based on your we we talked about this genetic adventure and it's like we Democrats Hillary Clinton we host of Political podcast that is now called Save America painted a very dark picture Phil did you see it there was a news report that using crisper they actually edited a human genome of did they edit a film into a genius to I'm dead serious I saw that happen that's crazy your DNA story and now through August third you could win a genetic adventure is twenty three and me dot com will choose one person each day for twenty adventure what's having sex to Coachella voted for it seven times or whatever and that's what I'm GonNa do right now it's not a perfect bill by it's the it is what I said I was going to live in for my voters understand stronger in that position we really gross at that point but he just hasn't taken the vote yet and we just have to wait it says I am going to I'm going to try and optimism I do think that here's my thing that that day it's not even like optimism because people like I've been tweeting this two or something along these lines and people are like you know McCain's disappointed with the Fox wrong with you he's you know he's he's percentage of your DNA comes from places like Italy Finland East Asia or Africa those are just big list from that list was carefully written to be sensitive in your network can be new social network it's pretty easy to do you spit into the to provide malefactor everyone at the DNA story guys Oh and ordered your DNA chance to win a trip to explore your connection to the world and travel like never before to enter visit twenty three dot com that's the number twenty three eight rats love it you've won a trip to Poland and then Russia and then back to Poland then back to Russia so tell us then Austria then back guts Medicaid funding kicking fifteen million people off vulnerable kids and seniors would be the only bill that they would be negotiating and so the house would be always meeting behind closed doors trying to gather votes for what they call the skinny repeal which will be the repeal of the individual mandate and a few other versions of these bills right don't they know that if this skinny repeal goes to conference that all of those Medicaid cuts will be back on in an incredibly strong position in that conference and they would only have to agree to a handful of changes because there was no competing product coming from Tree Senator Chris Murphy Welcome back to Pod Save America thank you for joining us on this very chaotic day this whole thing does eventually collapsed if they get this to a conference committee and they can't come to a conclusion at least then it's equal parts the house's fault and Senate Darren catastrophe probably sixteen to eighteen million people lose insurance within twelve months rates start going up by twenty percent a year but there convincing their members that it's the United States Senate I think some of this is for Senate Republicans is about trying to share the blame if don't have it yet so we are going to try to make this as difficult for them as possible in every forum conceivable make the case that this is just a fall whereas if it dies now the blame is all on Mitch McConnell so it may be that this is you know all setting up blame for ultimate failure that only happens of course if we actively be going to conference with only one bill this bill would be largely irrelevant because it is just a means to get to conference and so the House bill which just a procedural vote to get to conference with the House of Representatives where the bill will likely get even worse so we are waiting for them to Susan Collins vote now so here's what I don't understand a lot of your republican colleagues have voiced concerns about Medicaid cuts in preview other attempts to take insurance away for millions of Americans drop everybody's rates up and see if we can't convince to people one person besides at least for me a digital items to try to get themselves to fifty votes CBO has already weighed in and said that that's just different version of humanity a first question what the hell is going on in the Senate right now so we earn a waiting game the House Republican caucus as we speak right now six years somebody will come in and postpone them they're not real I think he's doing the same thing now in answer to your question I think he's telling some members of unveil this stripped down version of the original Repeal bill we are waiting for them to gather the fifty votes and parts of his caucus and the question is do they meet and compare notes before the vote tonight senator what have you heard anything from I think it is you know as we speak now John McCain is on record as expressing that reservation and it's an obvious one given the fact that they would Republican senator at this point no that their vote for this legislation is a vote to send it to conference or do some believe that the house may just take a comprehensive Bill Mitch McConnell was telling various factions of the caucus different things he was telling the Conservatives that the Medicaid cuts were going to go into effect to try to show the difference between Republicans and Democrats on healthcare that will accrue to their accumulated political liability and we are going to go until they put their product on the table but after they do that we have the right of unlimited amendment and we are going to offer amendment after amendment after amendment in perpetuity and it was a fundamental change to entitlements he was telling the moderates or the relative moderates in his caucus don't worry about it these Medicaid cuts don't go into effect for five or of John and we appreciate everything he said in that speech but it's a fairly meaningless sentiment if you continue to vote for and endorse the Oh for as long as it takes to make sure that those differences are exposed it'll be a long long amendment process and we're letting them know that right now table will be back in a bill so and they're just going to have to face a vote on cutting Medicaid again right like is is that having any effect on some of your Republican colleagues or what are you hearing off the floor of the Senate with Republicans who complain about this process and then they go in and they vote for it they have been bullied by Senator McConnell and by President Trump vote on the skinny repeal and call it a day or is that done I'm hearing sort of mixed reports about that so what we know is that when they were still trying to do most backwards behind closed doors process This the Senate has ever seen so yeah I have lots of conversations up the heat on if we aren't successful in stopping this vote later today that seems like a great way to make significant policy decisions what are some of the things the Democrats are going to be due to try to either raise awareness about this in the final stages here delay the process I mean I think we're we're playing to the ego of wasted on some members of the Senate who do see their responsibility to come up with a vote second we're trying to make that case that you were ultimately you're going

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"Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Xeni offers thousands of Ford -able eyewear styles starting at just six ninety five. No ridiculous markups. No hassles. Just quality affordable. I wear delivered right to you visits. Any today at Xeni dot com slash CNN. Hey, everyone. I'm David chalian, the CNN political director, and this is the daily DC. Thanks so much for listening today on the podcast. The votes have been counted. Well, most of them have anyway. And the results are in no doubt. By now, you have absorbed the headlines of election twenty eighteen. The Democrats win control of the house of representatives and looks like they're gonna get north of thirty seats. When all the counting is done. That's pickup. Thirty pickup seats and a Republicans pad their majority in the Senate by two or three seats. So it may go from fifty one forty nine Senate to a fifty four forty six Senate in the Republican favor as we've been discussing all year long. This campaign was playing out in two totally different universes. The battle for the Senate was taking place in Trump country and Trump countries showed up big for those Republican candidates took down democratic incumbents in North Dakota, Heidi Heitkamp, Joe Donnelly in Indiana, Claire mccaskill in Missouri. The other two deep red state Democrats up for reelection got reelected Joe mansion in West Virginia and Jon tester in Montana. So three of the five states that Donald Trump won by double digits were Democrats were running for re election, the Republicans picked up then there were the other states that Donald Trump won. But in the single digit range well shared Brown held on in Ohio and Bob Casey held on Pennsylvania. And Debbie stabbing. No held on Michigan and Tammy Baldwin held out held on him, Wisconsin. But it looks like Bill Nelson may fall Rick Scott. Here's the catch. It's florida. And guess what? Rick Scott is a head in the vote count. But the margin between Scott and Nelson is point four percent. So that is within the point five percent range that triggers an automatic recount. So we will not know for sure until Saturday when all the counties in Florida have done their initial canvas. And the canvas vote total is completed and then we will see what the margin is. If it. Is less than point five percent between the two candidates an automatic recount will be triggered a Bill Nelson. The democratic incumbent there who is behind a Rick Scott in the vote count right now has called for a recount Scott has a totally dismissed it. His campaign is saying it's with not within the realm of possibility that Scott will be able to catch up in the vote count. So the Florida Senate race hangs out there. But that is potentially. A fourth pickup for four Republicans the one democratic pickup took place in the Vada. We're Jackie Rosen defeated the Republican incumbent Senator dean Heller who was the only Republican incumbent Senator running for reelection in a state that Hillary Clinton one again, the cinema was so completely stacked and Arizona. Our latest vote count has about seventy five percent of the vote in. It's a close. Race mc. Sally is right now on top of cinema in terms of the vote count. But there is a literally a quarter of the votes still to come in in Arizona. So CNN is not ready to project that one yet Democrats picked up seven Republican governorships, and but missed some critical ones, Florida, Ohio, Iowa and Georgia. We'll see how that comes out were four. For states that Democrats had put a ton of attention and resources into. And it looks like they have come up short. I do think that the Santa's victory over Gillam in Florida may be the single best piece of news for Donald Trump. Yes. Having a padded majority in the Senate is good. He's clearly going to have cabinet changes. Just take a look at how Jeff Sessions got fired. Today's attorney general. And so confirmations both for the administration positions, and for judicial confirmations will become just that much easier for Mitch McConnell without having to, you know, promises them Collins and Lisa Murkowski, the world a little bit of cushion. There is going to be very welcome news for Mitch McConnell, but Donald Trump wakes up in a whole new universe today. He is facing divided government for the first time in his presidency. He's facing a democratic house of representatives. And when they get sworn in January. This is going to be a whole new learning period for Donald Trump about how Washington operates when the White House is being investigated by the congress in hearings are being held subpoenas being issued there are investigations into a ton of the administration's activity even today with the fire. Hiring of Jeff Sessions and the appointing of Matt Whitaker as acting attorney general who was sessions chief-of-staff, and who is on the record as being very critical of the Muller probe. Even today. You hear some Democrats on Capitol Hill, some of whom will have very important gavels in their hands as chair people have committee going forward making noise that this may be worth in investigation. Nancy Pelosi has made clear in a statement late today that Matt Whitaker has no business being in charge. Of overseeing the Mueller investigation. So this is all to say that Donald Trump finds himself in a new world order in Washington at his press conference today. The president wanted to tout some of his successes specifically in the Senate while downplay the drubbing he took in the house of representatives as Democrats won control. But instead he moved quickly on from the election into complete battles with the media. He went through a litany of Republican candidates who lost as he was celebrating and mocking their loss. Because he said that they refused to accept his embrace. And if they didn't want his embrace it's hard for him to feel bad that they lost. He stressed again that he campaigned more in the Senate and the house, but he went through whether it was Pete Roscoe, Illinois or Mike Kaufman in Colorado Carlos CRA Bello in Florida. He was just going through all the Republicans who are running in districts that have Donald Trump had indeed come in campaigned embrace. They probably would have lost by larger margins than they did. And he just was not having it as my colleague, Jake tapper put it on television earlier today, the president was kind of dancing on their graves. So now, we see a very divided America one where the blue America is transforming what the Democrats are becoming more. More a party of suburbanites of college educated folks, women, drove Democrats into the house majority nationwide across these districts and independence have just completely bailed on President Trump. Whereas Republicans remain ever in rural areas in really robust numbers exurban areas. Those deep red states out there Trump country they were completely enlivened by the cavenaugh confirmation by the hardline immigration talk that dominated at the end Democrats were completely motivated by the healthcare arguments. The Democrats were making on the trail and by taking advantage of the very types of voters who became available to Democrats because they were turned off by President Trump. So let me just give you a few of the exit poll findings from the national exit poll if you've not yet kind of CNN dot com. Go to our website. You can see the whole exit poll dig in slice and dice them for yourself. I I mentioned that this democratic house victory was fueled by women women made up fifty two percent of the electorate men made up. Forty eight percent of the electorate of the fifty two percent that we're women. Democrats won them by nineteen points. Fifty nine percent to forty percent Republicans won men by only four points. Well, that's not a sustainable gender gap. That is a huge gender Hillary Clinton, the first potential female president who clearly had favorability issues and was seen is not, trustworthy and had a lot of character baggage around her. She won women by fourteen points. Democrats won them by an even bigger margin this year, and she was going to be the first potential female, president this gender gap Justice. Is not sustainable. So Donald Trump is going to have to find a way to close that before his reelection two years from now. In terms of I mentioned, the college educated versus non college educated. This is the divide in American politics in many ways, forty one percent of the electorate were college graduates and Democrats won them by twenty points. Fifty nine percent were non college graduates and the parties split them forty nine percent to forty nine percent. Will you can't have that kind of education divide? If Democrats are winning college grads by twenty points, you the Republicans need more than just splitting non college grads evenly. So that was a part of the coalition. That Donald Trump needs to pay attention to to increase either try to back. Some of those college grads back into the Republican fold that have left or he's going to have to skyrocket, his margins with non college grads, which are part of his base. I mentioned independence. I think we forget because we talk so much about the Trump presidency as a base play presidency. Donald Trump won independent voters by four points. Just two years ago. He beat Hillary Clinton among independence last night in this electorate. The Democrats one independent voters by twelve points. Fifty four percent to forty two percent and independence made up thirty percent of the electorate twelve points. Donald Trump won them by four just two years ago. That is a sixteen point swing for independent voters away from the president. That's why he lost here, the suburbs. Donald Trump won the suburbs of by four points. Now. He's splitting them Republicans in the twenty fourteen midterms four years ago, they won the suburbs by twelve points. Now, they're splitting them evenly with Democrats suburbanites, independent voters female voters. This was and certainly a non white voters as well part of that democratic base, but in terms of the Democrats digging into some what had been Republican friendly groups. They have just these independent college. Educated. White women in the suburbs. That these are the folks that had been part of recent modern day Republican coalition sort of the Bush Republican party in many ways, if you will and have completely fled Donald Trump. Here's the thing. As we saw last night. Rhonda scientists a candidate made in the Trump mold able to win in a big battleground state like Florida as governor the president's electoral college chances at reelection up. Probably are still not a terrible though, I'm going to get into the mid west and just a moment. But. He these are these results are exposing significant problems that Donald Trump is going to have to solve if he is going to get reelected to a second term. I know you all think I'm crazy talking about twenty twenty because the election is not the two thousand eighteen election is not twenty four hours old yet. But but Donald Trump is bleeding support among groups that he had a somewhat on his team just two years ago. That is not a good sign, and it is because he's spent the last two years of his presidency. Running a base strategy not one of trying to expand and enhance his coalition now as for Donald Trump's electoral college math also look to the mid west. Democrats are trying to resurrect that blue wall. Donald Trump busted through when he won Wisconsin. And Michigan and Pennsylvania that delivered him the presidency. Well, in Pennsylvania, they re elected a democratic governor reelected a democratic Senator flipped a ton of how seats to the Democrats due to redistricting in Michigan. They elected a democratic governor that was a Republican held office. And they re elected a democratic Senator, Debbie stamina, and in Wisconsin Scott Walker who went to the voters for a fourth time and ask them for their vote came up short and Tony ears. The democratic gubernatorial candidate is now the governor elected Wisconsin Tammy Baldwin was re elected to the Senate. There you see that blue wall. Getting a you know a bit rebuilt from two years ago for the Democrats now in Ohio in Iowa the Republicans had a good night. Mike dewine wins in Ohio, Kim Reynolds wins full-term in. Iowa these were states that were critical to the president's winning coalition two years ago. And even though Iowa did indeed the Democrats picked up two Republican held congressional seats there, which shows some tint blue in Iowa, the Republican governor was still able to win her full first elected term as governor and in Ohio the dewine victory over cordray. Also, good news for Donald Trump. He went in there. He campaigned for them an a needed building block as he's thinking about the electoral college now as he heads into his reelection cycle for the next two years. But the way that the the Pennsylvania Michigan Wisconsin went last night again with the exit poll findings I'm telling you Donald Trump is going to have work to do to to rebuild what he had just two years ago that he has not been. Able to maintain thus far. But the American people have delivered their report card on the first two years of the Trump administration. It is quite clear they voted for a check and balance to be put in place, and by mean voters across the country in the suburbs. Independent voters that coalition. I talked about college educated women people of color that whole coalition. They voted for check and balance, and they got it with a democratic house and those Americans who went to the polls who live in Trump country. They enlivened themselves with enthusiasm about this election in the fall, it's an enthusiasm. We just had not seen present in the Republican party for much of the first year and a half of the Trump administration, but Donald Trump with just judge now Justice, cavenaugh and the immigration talk. He awakened the Republican base to to get to in Tuesday, some levels in these deep red state. 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2022 Nevada governor and U.S. Senate races

RJ Politics

45:53 min | 4 months ago

2022 Nevada governor and U.S. Senate races

"Watch your dvr. Nevada newsmakers saturday and sunday mornings from five thirty to six thirty on cox cable channel. Twelve or direct. Tv channel twenty one or anytime. Nevada newsmakers dot com. I heard the same thing. You've heard that people are talking behind the scenes to each other to basically say look if we all run it's going to be knock down drag outside. We're going to spend a lot of money against each other. From the las vegas review journal. This rj politics hello and welcome to rj politics. The las vegas review journal's weekly political podcast. i'm politics rory appleton. And i'm politics and government editor steve values in a few different topics to get to this week. I one is. We're going to have the story in the review journal this weekend about two of the largest race the to really marquee races in this state in twenty twenty two and i am fully aware that it is only barely april. Twenty twenty one but these things don't have an offseason anymore and then there's already some significant movement in both races so we'll have a story to it should be online as this podcast is released in. It should should be in the paper on sunday. But it's essentially about the governor's race and the senate race you know senator catherine Moscow and governor steve cecil akra both up for reelection two very important races two races of nash of national interest that will be targeted nationally. And you know. I in doing some research and talking to quite a lot of folks on the ground here in nevada and also some national sources and things like that. One is a lot more interesting than the other at this particular. Point and the governor's race so we've basically heard now. There are three sort of main kind of candidates who are definitely actively exploring a a run for governor and those are clark county. Sheriff joe lombardo Former lieutenant governor mark hutchinson and current congressman mark. Ama- day i. i did speak to market midday He he was very candid about about his interest about having conversations with lombardo and others about running and who's going to run and all that and this would be that would be a pretty crowded republican primary so the idea is that they're going to sort it out themselves. Steve is that something that you've heard around as well that it's it's those three are are three of the ones who are seriously considering. Yeah absolutely i ever those three names more than any other Name's dean heller name was also in there but I'm thinking that He may not Be involved in this race. He may not want to do it he did want to do before. I don't think it was ever happy in dc as a senator And i think he He contemplated Coming back and running for governor. Adam lack salt scared him in a number of other people including some people on our list here out of the race for governor last time in two thousand eighteen and And so i. I don't know that heller is going to do it. But you know the the strategy is smart in. I have heard the same thing. You've heard that people are talking behind the scenes to each other to basically say look if we all run it's going to be a knock down drag out fight. We're going to spend a lot of money against each other We're going to End up Penniless at the end of the republican primary income out and then governor says lack just sitting there fat and happy no opponent on the democratic side raising money left and right wants. The session ends So there's so so it doesn't make sense so let's settle on a single candidate and that actually is a very smart idea. I think on the republican side. I think it's smart for them to do that. I don't know if there are any wildcard candidates that are almost always are interesting to me about these. Things and lombardo is sort of a question mark because you as shariff he has not had a partisan job any really hasn't engaged in any partisan rhetoric. So we don't know you know one hundred percent worry stance but both hutch By hutch i refer to. Of course former lieutenant governor mark hutchison whose nickname such and in mark amady. Neither of them are known as being trump person. In fact i think hotch would most closely identify himself as a brian. Sandoval all republicans in that certainly not donald trump territory and mark a was kicked off the trump re election campaign For for the grievous. Sin of basically saying look with this ukraine business. I wanna find out if any laws were broken. I'm not saying i'm gonna beach guy in the ultimately didn't vote to impeach the guy he decide. I wanna find out what's going on. What the you know if there were any laws broken. Let's let's hear about it. Which is very reasonable kind of thing especially for somebody who by training as a lawyer which avenue is and and for that he was tossed out so neither of these guys are in the trump campaign and to me. The trump issue still looms large. I think some of these candidates understand that in their own mindset you know the the trump base is a still a very significant part of the republican party. And they're going to have to get that base and that's got to be part of what they're discussing who can motivate that. Donald trump base Because you know. I it's it's really true. If you ran a moderate and i think mark hutchinson on many issues is a moderate. What would what trump. Ace stu would they turn out or would they or would they just not show up and i think the very real possibility is a lot of them would just not show up because they say look. The guy is a rhino. He's not. He's not a fire-breathing know. insult tweeting. A guy who Who is going to really take it to the to the other side In fact he's known when he ran for state senate. He was known for running. The you know. Nicest most clean and mud-free campaign. I think the state has ever seen So he sort of the anti-trump in that sense And do they stay home. And what implications does that have for. Cecil exe reelection and then so i think those are questions it really. They all are thinking about in and debating amongst themselves absolutely and i think the debate is really about two very different races. One is a primary where you see. Candidates traditionally sort of run to the polls. You gotta get those red blooded conservatives. Add many of those those fire-breathing trump supporters as you mentioned to back you to get out of a primary and you. You have to spend some money enough money but not so much money that you're totally crippled. Once you are able to get out of it you don't wanna limp out of primary. And i think that's a very interesting dynamic in this governor's race because you have folks who are seen as pretty moderate All the way down a amway is quoted throughout the story and he basically you know he doesn't Poll whole lot of punches in saying that he really doesn't like how the republicans have conducted this last election. Certainly and even before that he basically told me the exact quote was that you're not going to bash your way to the governor's office. We saw enough of that last time. You need to find issues and connect with voters in that way you need to appeal the non-partisans and whoever the republican is needs to find a way to not lose clark county one hundred thousand votes or some. You know agreed number by that. They've got to cut that margin. You're not gonna win it but you've got to cut that margin you have to hold onto. Washington county amadeus. basically saying. I've done that some other candidates you know haven't in the past you know there's there's eat happy to talk shop. There's a lot of that in the piece if you wanna if you really dig into all of that but the primary question is an interesting one. Because there are other moderates i spoke to state senator Hide ganzert and state. Senator banke kaffir. Who were both interested in. Either governor's race or the or the senate race rumored i should say Hide against is basically saying. She's she's focused on legislative career. She just got reelected there That's that's what she's in keith. For is is termed out and he is very. He's more actively considering the position. But those candidates you know. The general consensus is that they might struggle to get out of a primary. They might do well. In general were you would like a moderate. And there's partisan voters and there's unaffiliated you know third party voters and folks who are not you know so partisan in their affiliation to where they they they really tipped the scales and and it's very close race in which both candidates on democrats and republicans going to run a general race in the middle. There are going to be. You know trying not pull to party extremes and so it's interesting to see who's going to able to make it out of the primary in that race who could also win a general and i think that's the conversations that are happening between those three. There are some other candidates little bit further down. I did speak to north las vegas mayor. John jay lee. Who has for years been rumored of switching parties from the democratic party is currently democrat to the republican party. And that he would you know. There's there's there's rumor the speculation that he'd be willing to challenge this lack those two currently have have some old beef as well an and he would he when i spoke to him he basically said that he had he gave me the at. I don't i don't mean this in in a negative way. What is what is the typical answer this early on in or in an off year which is i have been approached by different people in both parties to consider doing this. I am flattered and at this point There are some big projects in north. Las vegas that i'm focused on. That's that's about as standard and answer as you're going to get to thinking about it. But i'm not i'm not publicly thinking about it not yet so you know it's gonna be something to race. I think there's also a good chance that you could see you know folks from the business world or anything like that who jump into this race specifically who may be have opposed the governor's shutdown a rules or or you know all the mini restrictions that were in place to keep you all from getting sick to keep trying curtail spread of the virus in this last year. I could totally see that happening. But yeah you mentioned dean heller. And i had also heard in my reporting that that he he may wanna get in back into some sort of state office but he's he's also fine You know sort of staying home on the ranch as well. Yeah exactly and and the funny thing is i mean you. The names are. We're talking about here against your key. Kaffir amway hutch All of those candidates are great general election candidates because i think they are more moderate republican. They don't turn off independents. Don't turn off democrats I think they could probably get some of the other side. They could get crossover votes. And each one has something You know mark hutchinson was the lawyer for those from two thousand seven. Two thousand eighteen recalls. That's kind of a black mark With him amway the congressional record and of course you know there's tons of stuff that you can deploy against day you know he you could say he talked a good game but voted with trump voted not to impeach trump. A couple of times and all that Ben key kaffir. I think it would be a great republican statewide candidate. He would have to spend a lot of money to improve his name. Recognition in other parts of the state. Same with heidi ganster. There're all the the problem with all for all those people is not generally it is. The primary is getting over that that big mountain climbing the everest. That is the republican primary. After that. it's it's. I'm not going say off down here because this is going to be a fairly formidable candidate. I think it is on ride. His gonna raise money. He's going to have a things that he did that That i think you can point to. He can point to that justifies reelection and so but they would be good. it would be good candidates. They would be good candidates. The problem for republicans is what happens if they nominee. I don't see on this list. We'll talk about senate second but the name adam lack laxa or a similar name does not appear on this list. And if there was an atom lack salt that person would be the favourite to win the primary. Let's just be honest about Adam lack laxa won the primary He by default. Nobody even decided to run against him because everybody in nevada knew that he was going to appeal to that. That party base now. I think his image has been shattered a little bit. I think he's been shown to a little bit to be a paper tiger after his performance against his lack which was abysmal. It was one of the worst campaigns. I think i've ever seen and certainly the worst campaign for governor in the state of nevada that i've seen since i've been covering in that's been going back a number of years so So someone like that. If there was a person who could excite the trump base who was a better candidate. And i don't know who this person might be that person i think would win a primary and so all of these folks talking amongst themselves is good. They've got to watch out for that x. factor though in and what who who that factor might be going forward. And i think that that could really be a problem in the primary but the general i is a completely different animal and and i think you know we've seen it before in two thousand ten Jim gibbons was running for a second term. And rory reid. The son of the senator Was the clark county commission chairman and he was running for governor against Against gibbons and some wise republicans in the state of nevada realized. Look we're gonna lose. We will lose jim. Gibbons he's too far to the right he has been a not a good governor. He's sort of been a clown in terms of you know Going down to office depot and buying veto stamp and holding a thing. And you know. We actually stamped veto on bills and held them up for reporters to see that veto stamp by the ways in the state museum now And so they realize gonna lose so what they did was they went and they found a moderate republican brian. Sandoval who in many ways is the perfect. Nevada candidate not too far to the left. Not too far to the right. Reasonable good-looking articulate guy and Turned out to be one of the best governors. The nevada has seen republican or democrat in recent memory and so So so i think that you know. Republicans would be wise to look at that sandoval example and say was that send wasn't a unicorn i mean there are other people like him who could do it. the trouble that they have this time though is that there's no arch conservative governor to run against to to be a a counter class to there's just sicily and cisl lack being a moderate democrat. I think is is going to be tougher. The in that in that respect. Because you know there's really its roots can be harder to run against that and so i think it'll it'll. It'll be very interesting to see if that you know more right wing candidate emerges who that might be and how they might How they might do a challenge to to the group that That that we're discussing here and there's other names that are out there that we have heard That are pending Decision who knows You know what can happen. celebrity is always a factor. You know And so. I think it'll be. It'll be fascinating to watch this This governor's race unfold. One thing is certain. And that is it. Steve slack is not going to get a free ride and he is going to have to answer for his handling of the coronavirus pandemic. he's going to have to answer for for that. I think Depending on how this blockchain story you know unfold. He's going to have to answer for that as well. Because this this was not a legislative proposal. This was something assist lack. Put in his state of the state address. The something he has has been behind and and depending on how that all plays out there the the even money is saying it's probably not going to happen but you know to the extent that he really gets behind it and pushes it That could be a factor in our reelection of as well and then of course we have the tax factor in. What's what's gonna happen with taxes. can emerge unscathed In this in this first term with the tax issues so all of those things i think are are playing into To this very exciting governor's race share share. And you know. I think republicans were were definitely wanting to run against sis. Lack a message of mishandling of the of of the pandemic but remember. I mean the meat of the campaigning is going to be a year from now. And i really do thinks it. Both the governor and senator cortez maskco arkan to be running on messages of recovery of the economy and mark. Emigre said that flat out. He told me you know unclear. English that he he also believes the economy by then. We'll be on the upswing again. And and you know they'll be they'll be many sort of positive changes between now and twenty twenty two That will be. It will be tough hurdles for any sort of republican to run against an and the governor for for his money is essentially. Say wow you know. I've got four point five million dollars in the bank. it's been fundraising this whole time. You know in these sort of ears and stuff he you know. I'm i'm i am who i am. I i've done what i've done on all this and i welcome. You know sort of indian. All takers On that end on the senate side. It's it's it's less complicated in. It's more complicated. Because you mentioned lack salt emmy the overwhelming consensus among republicans and democrats. Is that the republican nomination for senate as as as you mentioned the gubernatorial election when he lost assist lack in two thousand. Eighteen is lack salts to claim win. Win he whenever he wishes essentially. Nobody's nobody's really heard much from him since the election. He has stopped. Doing you know he was doing multiple weekly sort of news conferences to talk about. You know this mass fraud. That was not. Actually you know apparently happening in the county and in the state Has been born out for for months now And he really has sort of disappeared he. He continues to send out his his regular newsletters through his pack. In the reno gazette journal this also in washington examiner. I believe as well i. i've i've seen. He's been writing but he hasn't been sort of out and and in front of cameras in the way that he he was last year i would say all done all dried up really quickly did it was it was immediate. Many many republicans in the state had had similar disappearing ex but have since reemerged He i called him for the story. I have not been able to get him on the phone for about four months. So if i had to dig s But but basically talking to national sources. I mean it's clear that that atom lock. Salt could basically walk into a trump endorsement very loyal Soldier during the election. He was trump's basically trump's voice in nevada when the president in soft was not here. I mean he was doing all of the press conferences towards the end of the campaign It was this motley crue basically of of lack salt of rick grenell match lab That we're basically making all of you know the the president's case so to speak at you know. Lack salt is lawyer and was literally in some cases and figuratively making the case for him But basically we. We've heard that trump that that the r. n. c. that that Mitch mcconnell himself favor lack salt. That meeting other senators favor lack salt and and this of course scares away. Many of those moderate candidates that we've talked about all these candidates talk about for governor. You know half dozen folks. Any one of them could in series slot in to a senate race if they wanted to but they don't want to because they know that they're running into a buzzsaw that is you would be running. Against the trump candidate the candidate with with good name recognition in the state. Don't think there's any way around that. Lacks salt would be able to summon large amounts of national money. I think that is accurate. I mean i think he's. He's the type of person who could get a a trump e mail blasted out across the country to millions and millions of people and and could get a lot of small dollar donations as well as corporate donations from folks. Who have it out against. What the senate is doing. Or what the the you know the current presidential administrations doing or whatever their grievances are the and and i just i just think kika for good example key kept for has been said that he gave me the same sort of explanation as john. Jay lee where he says he hasn't been approached about the senate east considering it but but i mean it would be very very tough for him to get out and an argument as you said could be made that he might do. He might do better in general wants the. But he's never they're never gonna make it so so the idea is that in less lack salt decides against it which there's no strong indications that he is. He's wanted it in been rumored for it for years now. Basically since losing the sys- lack election as it looks like it's gonna be laxed in court has maso and then you're talking about a national sort of race basically where the ideologies of the current president and the former president are totally on the ballot. And we'll totally basha against each other and talking to folks around here. They think if that race is close if they feel like lack. Salt has a chance. If it's if it's you know it's getting hot and heavy. In the summer of two thousand twenty two that race could could draw hundred million dollars in spending as folks say that that might even be low estimate. Because you know there's a lotta nationally this. The senate is the democratic majority in the senate is so thin that you only need one and for republicans catherine cortez maskco leadership and rising in democratic power. She would she would be a great one to get and they're gonna do everything they can to get her. Your i mean that is that is true. All things being equal. I would i if i was a republican. I would rather run against this lack in catherine cortez. Maskco be republicans. Agree with you. Because catherine cortez masto is so disciplined and so focused and so smart That that She is not a one given to making tactical mistakes and she has had all sorts of of experience whether as a federal prosecutor chief of staff to governor miller You know all sorts of things that have led to this moment That i think it will be very difficult for anyone to unseat her and And i think there's there's there's a little bit of a romance going on between the base and atom lack salts and that romance is blinding them to the fact that in the general election against katherine. Cortez masto It's going to be very difficult for anyone to beat her. But lack saul who who did not run a good campaign and whose popularity i think it persists in the republican base. Not withstanding that fact rather than because of it. His performance did not commend him. I think anybody who was really interested in in winning elections And so i think the base is sort of you know with their hearts is embracing lack sol But i think other republicans are looking at it and saying. Look if he's our guy that racist loss were not gonna be able to win that race with that candidate now Been kika furniture general. That's a that's another story mark hutchison. That's that's another story. I mean they would have a better chance to do it but it is an uphill climb for anybody. I think in this race especially given the resources that she is going to have is a member of leadership the support that she has remember she was harry. Reid's handpicked successor For his see and Harry reid does not want to see his seat fall to a republican of any stripe much less to fall out of lack salt. So i think i think of the two candidates. She is better position going in to next year going into these elections. And i think she's going to be a better candidate. I really do think she's going to be a better candidate in her. Twenty sixteen race against joe heck Who who by the way was a was a really good candidate in his own right I think she just performed better. She performed really well in their one debate which Which i was at i was one of the moderators in their in their channel. Eight debate. I remember very well. Those two Going out and i think they were. I think they were A very good But she was really good. I mean it's it's gonna be. It's gonna be a difficult. Any anyone contemplating a run against catherine worked as master was going to have to Be very disciplined campaigner. And they're going to have to. They're really going to have to find things at work against her And i don't know that there's a lot of stuff that can be. You know brought to bear against her. Because i think she in terms of what a us. Senator should do for her state. I think she's done all that. I think she's done all those all those things as latest. Today you know you went to an event at today. Where she's they're touting the the delivery the vaccines the american rescue plan and And as you point out. And i think the Which is the point you made earlier. This is a key point next year. Now we're we're talking about everybody. Getting the vaccine getting people back to work etc cetera in may twenty twenty two. We will be talking about recovery. we'll be talking about. The conventions are coming back and the casinos are busy again. Mccarron airports once again reaching for a record. Maybe we'll hit fifty million harry reid airport to airport and all of those things are gonna make it a different world and and and she will be one of the people on the leading edge of that saying this is not a. I'm not gonna tell you what i'm gonna do or what i'd like to do. I'm gonna tell you what i have done. And here's the evidence in proof of that and and by the way you're welcome for the infrastructure plan and the recovery plan and And everything else that that we have done For the state of nevada. So i i think i think you know of the two. I would be more worried. If i was cecil act less so than if i was catherine cortez masto and And the republican who Who who gets the honor of challenging Cortez masto is going to have to really bring yay game when they do that. Yeah absolutely. I mean and we talked about this before win. Vice-president kamla harris visited as well The biden administration really democrats. Really across You know all all branches of government essentially because we also saw congresswoman titus and congresswoman lee also in town holding events to this effect as well and and that rescue plan you know. The latest stimulus package enormously popular polling at seventy five percent type of of of approval from the people nationwide and every democrat is not only passed. It not only seen its implementation. But they're taking the lap and that's what i saw this this morning. Which is essentially court has maso rows basically saying you know we're out to to share to everybody to let everybody know that one we did this. It was hard work. There were no republicans who supported this bill. And we got it. We got it through That's hard work and senator rosen. Said that flat out to me today. That look this is this. is you know. She looked at the cashman center. This is the result of our hard work at and the second thing to also spread awareness of like what all is available. I mean if you get a check deposited to you in the irs. In iowa yeah. You're you're aware of that but you know there are increased. Medical benefits increased unemployment benefits. We we've talked about all before and they're definitely taking lap and definitely. I think there's a very conscious effort. Among all democrats to pay that very popular you know. Rescue plan to the democrats and not the republicans and and and really really highlight that republicans had had no say and even n even tried to stop this from happening. And i which i think is accurate and so yeah i mean i think that's true the consensus among everybody that i've talked to that lack salt seems to be the candidate but is there consensus. That he's the one to beat her. That's when people get a little bit more quiet when you're talking to folks around here republican operatives and such. I think everybody does admit that it will be harder for him to beat cortez maskco than it would have been even be slack. Because she is like you said she. She is very very disciplined. Very organized. half-staff already doing campaign work. Some of these republicans that we're talking about key heffer gathered. Laksono are being watched by democratic operatives. At the moment they're they're they're filling out the files that you do. The opposition research that you do is happening and we're we're a year away from the filing deadline even let alone the election. So so i yeah. You're very disciplined. Somebody who's the heir apparent to to state democratic party power in in nevada. And i definitely wanted to also mention that there has been one other very prominent name that has been mentioned in the rumor mill. Four senate and that is brian sandoval and i did. I did reach out to him through the university. And i got a polite but very direct response which was essentially the governor sandoval. He's not even going to waste the time. It takes to have a conversation about his lack of interest. Because he's so focused on what he's doing at the as president of the university of reno i've heard from folks the he has absolutely no interest in running against Against catholic cord has mass. Oh he's been quite complimentary of her impasse as he does now work for a public university and has to work. You know senators and legislators as well and and he's more of a moderate. I don't think he would want a knock down drag out. Fight with lack. Salt either was attorney general. I don't think he would want that. I think sandoval is is clearly. He's not trump loving styled republican by any stretch even though many republicans you know may perhaps under their breath but around here would love it. If he ran for seneca's he'd have a very good chance in the general very very popular. Oh yeah no he would be the it would be the would be the goal of the unicorn candidate golden. Yeah it's this weird. It's weird dichotomy between primary politics and general election politics that you see in these racist that is very very interesting and obviously it is extremely early. they're definitely check out the story. There's plenty to close out of the one thing about santa ball was that he proved he could win in primaries and generals in he did so with the the opprobrium of the republican base I don't think i saw brian. Sandoval wants a republican convention in this state the whole time he was governor. I saw lieutenant governors. I saw congress members. I saw others. I never saw sandoval there. He just basically ignored me party. And bypassed it and I it didn't hurt him. It didn't hurt him because there were crossover republican votes. I'm sorry crossover democrat votes. That helped him out. So i think he is one of those rare people who if he decided to get into the race for senate would would be able to win a primary and And would be able to defeat laxa although that would be that would be kind of an interesting thing to watch how he would go about doing net but as you said i think his response is absolutely right on. He didn't have any interest in going to washington. Dc when he was serving as governor He served in all branches of nevada government. But i don't think he has even the slightest bit of interest in leaving. he loves the job. A you are He's one that job for a long time. And i don't think he is inclined to go absolutely anywhere now that he's he's got it so yeah so. I don't think we're going to be saying brian. Santa claus name on a ballot wanted to end on a little bit of a lighter note. We talked a couple episodes ago couple of weeks ago about the possibility reported that there was a possibility that dan road aymer who challenged suzy. Lee in the most recent album in nevada district as a republican had moved to texas and was planning to run for congress in texas there was a congressman here in texas who passed away and he dan road. I is a very large primary field that it also includes the congressman's widow who is the favourite to win that race And basically he put forth one of his i. What's becoming a signature. Sort of style of ad out. That was that was pretty widely mocked and ridiculed. I would say did see republicans even like i figure i think it was actually congressman matt gates. Who had himself a very interesting week. I think it was him who actually mocked it quite openly and really like i said both parties i saw national news coverage eventually get to the fact that he's dressed as a cowboy riding a bull doing a texas accent months after living in nevada. Speaking in a sort of standard western accent and dressed inequality different way with a completely different background. He essentially to use a A a nerd them term. He had essentially con his background inside. The previous election. Did not in fact happen. And now he's a cowboy and speaking with an accent and everything like that and he was heckled mercilessly. I don't think any any the texans especially did not take it and we talked about this before to go. And essentially carpetbag district is is one thing but taxes really don't like it because there's a lot of state pride of being a texted when you when you're an outsider. When you went to school in new jersey. I believe it was and you know lived in florida when you were professional wrestlers from all over the place and not so much tax They really don't particularly like that. I saw it universally Heckled and i know you plan to join in the chorus yes. I'm planning sundays sundays. Newspaper will have a little item on this And you know it's it's funny too because look all politicians have ambition. There's no question about that if you didn't have emission you wouldn't run. You wouldn't say that. Out of the seven hundred thousand people in this congressional district. I ought to be the one to represent all of them in. Dc at takes a certain amount of hubris. And so you know. That's the something common in probably is forgiven for most of these people But to to so radically change To to pretend that europol writing hat wearing texan when you have just You know basically just arrived in the state And you just beat the residency requirement. You're so new that you don't know where to even file your papers for the special election that you're gonna run in a mean that to me i think is that that is a level of hubris even beyond that sort of thing and And one of the things people liked about donald trump was Authenticity and i think donald trump approved if no one else that authenticity can be a morally neutral virtue but But you had no doubt when donald trump was speaking that you you're listening to the real donald trump. I mean this is who the guy is any made. No pretenses about it. In fact he made that into a little a little Meam about himself was that he was plainspoken. And all that kind of stuff and when you see somebody like this do something like this which is essentially the very opposite of authenticity. I think that does turn voters off and You know it's been tried here in the state of nevada. We've had people come from hollywood and try to run for governor. Try to buy their way in for governor because they thought well nevada's a small stayed in their kind of rubes and won't be able to pull the wool over their is. It didn't work. It doesn't voters know who is is and who is not an authentic person resident of that particular area and and i think they're going to find this out pretty quickly. The ad that he did was. I think almost comical in the end the reaction to it you know is not the reaction that you want when you do this at at one point he was trying to say how we texans have these certain values and the people like nancy pelosi In washington hate those values and he said they are laughing at us because of that and the the the fact of the matter is they indeed are laughing but they're laughing at you and for not the reasons that you think the they're laughing at you because this ad is just so ridiculous and over the top and it's just not gonna fool anybody it's it is sort of the political equivalent of professional wrestling and and while it may be entertaining You know nobody is really going to buy into it With rare exceptions. Like jesse ventura. In minnesota arnold schwarzenegger in california and And there are people who are argue. The jesse ventura was a fine governor. Arnold schwarzenegger was the same in california in some of the things that he did Were were very good. He was he was. He was good at the job When you see somebody like this who just so badly wants to be in congress that they were debase themselves. In this manner i think people are are more repelled than attracted by that and i and i think it's it's probably gonna come to not as you pointed out it's a crowded field is twenty. Two people in that special election is going to be decided in may so we'll know by may and we'll certainly bring the results of that to our faithful listeners. And i mean it just gotta feel interesting for for folks in the third district. Who voted for him. There's one hundred ninety one thousand people in nevada living right. I live in the third district. Might you know my neighbors There are some of them who voted for him. I mean he was I think a pretty respectable you know lost that he had. I mean he lost by about three percent. And that's that's you know like you know career ending. I don't think by any sort of means. And then he goes and does this and and you mentioned the professor freshmen wrestling and that was that anybody who's asked me about him. Because i i've been to many of his events seen him speak many many times and you know some reporters in texas now started to ask me and others always ask me like what's what's the is professional wrestling if you ever watch it. He's doing professional wrestling. Promos as political theater where you know he used to. He did a bit about taking a steel chair to the establishment itself. I mean it was. It was that like brazen. It wasn't even sort of subverted in their no it was. It was quite quite literally literally beating people over the head with these metaphors up and one of the things that happens in professional wrestling is if you have a gimmick in a certain area or territory whenever and it's not working you leave and you totally reinvent this new character to be somewhere else and i think that's what happened. We've never seen somebody to be so thorough on. The professional wrestling is exactly like politics. Sort of gimmick and that. And that's really what it is. Egypt he just got a new gimmick nia a new venue for it and and who knows you know if this doesn't work out there's plenty of other states in the union. There's plenty of other elections that every two years. It happens every two years so there are so. We have not heard the last dan road. Amer in on your point to your point in terms of his electoral performance. He didn't embarrass himself. You know When he ran for state senate in twenty eighteen he lost to a former member of the assembly who was Sort sort of neutrally regarded but he beat a former state senator Who who was sort of an inconsequential a state senator but nonetheless a name that people knew in nevada. He beat her to to come in second in that republican primary in two thousand eighteen and then in twenty twenty. He beat a field of candidates that included a former statewide elected official to win the nomination. So it's not like he is completely ridiculous and You know loses all the time and makes a fool so he actually has a record of winning certain primaries and so you know that he does have something to go on whether or not he should have may be stayed in nevada in run for another office and then sort of tried to build on that i think is another thing but i think you know i agree with you. I think he realized okay. Well i've tried twice once in a small district once in a larger district probably opposite of out should have been People are buying it here. Maybe it's time to move on to somewhere else and and this special election Sort of a gimme right. It's like the space between spaces. You know the twenty twenty ran than twenty twenty two loses this one he can still start gearing up for twenty twenty two and see what happens then so maybe someday we will see dan big. Dan wrote emmer in the congress of the united states. And if we do the plaque outside his office. I really hope has big. Dan in in quotation marks From whatever stadium prepar well. We'll always keep our eye on that and all these other elections that we talked about plenty for this week. I think you can always find us every friday. You can us on. Social media. Narrow does phonics. The nazis belly us on twitter. And make sure that you're liking and subscribing wherever you get your podcast wherever you're listening right this second as always i m politics worry appleton. Governor steve sibelius thanks so much for.

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November 7, 2018

POLITICO Playbook Audio Briefing

04:26 min | 2 years ago

November 7, 2018

"Good Wednesday morning. I'm Jay Sherman. And welcome to your political playbook audio briefing sponsored by BP and Anna Palmer, the takeaway from last night's election. Trump's Republican Washington is broken president. Donald Trump wakes up this morning to a new reality and exceedingly hostile Washington. The US government is now split the house is democratic the Senate and White House Republican and with that comes in new dynamic, which Trump has not yet confronted a chamber of congress that is looking to destroy and defeat him subpoenas will be flying investigative hearings will happen on the regular the news media needs to shift, its focus. If the White House has an idea it will almost always get shot down by the democratic leadership. The democratic house of representatives will be looking to hold Trump's administration's feet to the fire in a short to drag his cabinet secretaries to Capitol Hill multiple times each month to answer a slew of questions about its behavior past and present the White House wants a wall of better get it done this year eliminate. Birthright citizenship, get ready for war with an extraordinarily progressive house. There's one game in town for Trump right now for relationship with the House Democratic majority. It is true that the house is the most likely chamber to flip in the first midterm of a president. But it is also the purest test of the president's popularity everyone is up for reelection the entire country voted and Democrats won easily some of the stalwarts of the house. Republican majority went down, including Peter Roskam in Illinois and John Culbertson in Texas Republicans loss, Steve Russell's deep red seat in Oklahoma and Dave brat who beat air Kenner is a goner in Virginia. It's also worth noting that many House Republicans Trump endorsed lost the most likely candidate. For speaker is Nancy Pelosi after eight years in the minority California Democrat finally led her caucus back into power. She's the best organized and most viable candidate despite several incoming Democrats saying on the campaign trail, they won't vote for her only time. We'll tell if any candidate stands up to run against her. But as of now, she's running unopposed House Republicans considering leadership bids will probably announce their intentions today. Republicans will have some dappling on their hands. Two thirds of house. Republicans have never served in the minority. Thanks to Washington Post. Paul Kane for that factoid expect a wave of House Republican retirements in the next four months or so now, it wasn't all bad news for the Republicans. Mitch McConnell had a very good night. The map was always favorable Senate Republicans, but the GOP nearly ran the table last night picking up at least four democratic held seats in North Dakota, Florida, Indiana, and Missouri. Senate Republicans also headed off potentially embarrassing losses in Texas with Ted Cruz victory over Baidoa Rourke, and Marsha Blackburn. Defeating Phil Bredesen the Montana and rezone races are still too close to call one bright spot for Senate Democrats. Jackie Rosen edged out Senator dean Heller in Nevada. Tha. Mel Berta in a lot of shore report that White House political director Bill Stepien sat down with the president in September to give them a wakeup call that Republican voters weren't motivated ahead of the elections. And to please stop saying there's a red wave that's in the politico tick tock another tick tock from the Washington Post to I've sent to house speaker Paul Ryan fried twice in the closing weeks of the campaign to urge Trump to back off the nonstop inflammatory immigration rhetoric. There were a lot of I achieved last night. Buzzfeed breaks it down noting that Rashida to leave an Alon Omar will be the first Muslim women in congress. Deb Haaland Therese David's will be the first native American women elected to congress while Alexandria. 'cause you Cortes and Abby thinking our will be the youngest woman ever elected to congress Ianna Presley. We'll be Massachusetts's first black congresswoman Jared police will be the first openly gay governor in the US Luli on Guerrero is the first woman governor of wom, and Veronica Escobar and Sylvia Garcia, our Texas. I to Latina congresswoman Laura Kelley a democrat won the Kansas governorship. Scott walker. The Republican governor of Wisconsin is out Ron Disentis bested democratic star Andrew gillum while Stacey Abrams has refused to concede to Brian camp. In Georgia, the posters up with a look at how conservatives are now concerted, the president could turn more transactional and leave them out of deals with congressional Democrats. Subscribe to play book and politico dot com slash playbook.

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