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The Ben Shapiro Show
"de soto" Discussed on The Ben Shapiro Show
"World since essentially 1990. There's been a decline of from about 20% of people in the developing world who are starving to a little bit over 12% by say 2014 and that decline has continued to pace. Because it turns out that people are really good at shipping things places and that additional trade is helpful. And then hunger has declined. But you're not allowed to hear the good news. The bad news is what allows them to grab power. And then the best part of this is that the people who understand this is the best. Are the people who actively are the poorest. The people who are the poorest are saying, you know what I don't need. I don't need you telling me I need to build a solar panel on my corrugated iron shack. That's right, I don't need you doing. But I need you doing is making sure that I get the cheap energy that is necessary to power my life and develop my economy. What I need from you is a stable set of governance rules that can be implemented by my government so that I can own my own property. So that all of the locked up capital in the land that I'm sitting on, but it's not legally owned by me because of this bad property system can be unlocked for Hernando de Soto, the Latin American economist, won the Nobel Prize. He has suggested that one of the big problems in the developing world and the underdeveloped world is that they don't have actual regulatory consistencies. You don't know if you own a piece of land when you sit on that land for 20 years, for example. There are a bunch of things we can do for the developing world. Stable governance is one of those things. Cheap energy is another one of those things. The problem is the cheap energy comes in the form of carbon based fossil fuels because that is the cheapest and most effective form of energy currently known to man. And so this phrase of problem for the elite is because they say we're doing this on behalf of the poor, don't you see? We're doing all we need power so we can help the poor people. Which sounds great. We need power to help the people who are the most the most hurt by a climate change, we need the power to help the people who are starving because there's only one problem. If you ask those people, would you like cheap gas or these morons over here flying private Justin talking about solar panels, they're going to say give us the cheap gas. Give us the call. A huge percentage of the world's population, by the way, would kill for natural gas and oil. I mean, literally kill for it because they are burning wood and dung. For fuel. You want to talk about you want to talk about death, you don't needless death that is being caused right now. By environmental hazard, try burning wood and dung in your corrugated iron shack for fuel and see how that goes for you in terms of your health. By the way, the carbon emissions from that are pretty extraordinary. So there's one additional element here that the Davos crowd has to do. And that is, we have to say that what we really have to do is we have to convince these poor people that they are ignorant and stupid. They need to give us the power also. You need to give us the power to help the poor people and the poor people don't want us to have that power. Well, we need to convince those poor people that they should give us the power as well because of course they're stupid. They're stupid and they're poor. So if we just explain to them that we need to put the solar power on their iron shaft, then probably that'll solve the problem. So here is climate negotiator Nam gay children explaining just that. I heard this amazing craziest today where a friend of mine said that there are doors that we can walk through, but it's important that you hold that door so that someone less privileged than you can walk through it. So something that you can think about is what are you doing in your position of privilege to make the conversation on climate more accessible to somebody who may not know about it or for someone who lives in a different part of the world where this conversation is not a possibility. Maybe the reason that the conversation isn't a possibility is not because of government crackdowns. Maybe the conversation isn't the possibility because people are too busy worrying about being able to eat and have enough heat to survive cold. Maybe that's one of the problems. We get some more on this in just one second first. I want to talk to you about daily wire's most trusted privacy partner and a premier sponsor of this show ExpressVPN. Using the Internet without ExpressVPN is like checking in your baggage at the airport without a lock. You think your stuff is kept private, but you never know who exactly is going through your personal items. 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Bitcoin Audible
"de soto" Discussed on Bitcoin Audible
"Those who are willing to take the risk can pay for the contribution of those who are not. This might seem so straightforward as to be banal. But notice we are using money in an essentially new way. Not because we want to guard against the consequences of uncertainty, but because we want to embrace them. The uncertainty in question will not be an accident of our circumstances. It will be entirely deliberate. to tempt others to engage in economic behavior, the output of which is uncertain. At the opportunity cost of behavior that is presumably much more certain. In effect, we are buying uncertainty with certainty. More precisely, we are creating capital. Capital is not just complex tools, nor is it the money used to motivate their creation, but could be thought of as the extent to which the two are fluid. I believe Hernando de Soto has by far the best appreciation of the true subtlety of the concept from his brilliant, the mystery of capital. Capital is not the accumulated stock of the assets, but the potential it holds to deploy new production. This potential is, of course, abstract. It must be processed and fixed into a tangible form before we can release it. Later he adds, capital, like energy, is also a dormant value. Bringing it to life requires us to go beyond looking at our assets as they are actively thinking about them as they could be. It requires a process for fixing an asset's economic potential into a form that can be used to initiate additional production. De Soto focuses on the sociological importance of property rights and providing for such a process. For our purposes, we can be ever so slightly more abstract and see the ultimate point of property rights and the role they play as providing a certainty of economic relevance that can be measured with money, embargoed against the uncertainty we want to exploit.
KOMO
"de soto" Discussed on KOMO
"Of course, two that come to mind, Ted Bundy, and Gary Ridgway, the green river killer. There's been a rumor spread quickly on social media over the last few days about a serial killer, possibly active, in burian, de Soto area, even at South Park. It has now been denied by King County sheriff's office. In fact, a Seattle police department, adding that they have had many people reaching out. That's due to the amount of people who have died in the area of South Park and state route 5 O 9. In fact, many have been concerned and authorities feel a reference that has been tied to the discovery of a woman's body that happened October 7th on the side of highway 5 O 9 south near the first avenue south bridge. Authorities say that case is real. And they are seeking assistance from the public who might have any knowledge. But at this point, there is no active serial killer anywhere in our region. I have our Christopher, northwest news radio. We check traffic every ten minutes on the forest from the dubin law group traffic center. Here's RC cats. While we're just dealing with postgame traffic, we don't have any blocking incidents or stalls getting in the way. So North Island 5 pretty busy between I 90 off and on two 5 20, southbound 5 struggling from 85th across the ship canal bridge due to earlier issues, we are seeing some heavy traffic through Thurston county, just people coming back after the weekend. So you have the around Marvin road off and on past and squally, and we do have some heavy traffic, westbound 90 from snow or make that clem to snoqualmie pass again just weekend, traffic, your next northwest traffic report at four 44. Now, let's find out what our weather has in store for us. We've had record high temperatures in the 80s across most of our spots in western Washington, a lot of cooling, though, on the coast. So what we
CounterClock
"de soto" Discussed on CounterClock
"Death, a homicide. Let me tell you this, if you didn't know it, a medical examiner before they make their ruin, most of their information is provided by law enforcement. And then they make you really after the autopsy. Are you indicating that the two medical examiners early on in this case were swayed by law enforcement's theory because if that's the case, then law enforcement's theory at the start of this whole thing would have been that John was a drowning victim. The medical examiner is the one that found the bullet in his head and informed police that they were dealing with potentially a murder, so it almost seems as if it was the other way around in this case. I was really curious to know if James felt like his expertise was better than everyone else's. Why did he even bother to bring in the third party forensics firm, bevel gardener and associates? We hired three experts to review my notes in a green with chaos as well. Why did he consult these three experts if according to James, his personal work on the case was the best it could get. Why did you bring in bevel gardener and associates? Was that a firm you had used previously? Had you used them at all in any other cases for de Soto county sheriff's office? That was the first time I used them, but they were highly recommended by the FBI because they're all retired FBI forensics. So that's why we use them. Did you know if bevel gardener and associates did like field testing or any sort of experiments? All they were doing was for a few of my findings and seeing if they agree with me or not. Did bevel Gardner and associates ever provide you a reason as to why they didn't do any physical or forensic testing with firearms to back up their findings that they gave to you? I didn't ask them to do that. I asked them to review the case and they review my notes. Would you not have rather had them look at it independently aside from what you found so that they could determine for themselves? Yeah, they did, they got all the photos I sent them all the photos. I will related to the case. Did you see my report that I wrote? I did. I'm actually looking at it right now. And I was going through it. And I had a couple of questions for you about that. Minutes into our call, we were off to the races. He was on his end, ready to answer questions, and I was on my end, going line by line through his 7 page report that explains what he believes happened to John. You're sitting on an ATV, you'd have a holster with a 22 on the right side of your body. That's not secured, okay? You hit the reverse button, right? The gun falls out because he always kept a cock back, so it'll go off. It's simple right now. And as you backing up, the gun falls out, you look down and look at your gun and you get shot in the eye. I mean, you got to understand the evidence. And you believe that John was physically able to then walk 40 feet. To the ditch and fall in, you're saying that's physically possible. Yes. All of the reports that you would have reviewed said anywhere from 30 to 50 feet. He would have walked. Does that not? Okay. Not something you remember? I don't remember. It was in a very big distance to put it that way. Well, I mean, 40 feet is a pretty significant distance and according to the evidence photos where the ATV was and where he went into the water, it was a significant amount of space for him to have traversed whether conscious, partially conscious, what have you, but I guess what I'm trying to understand is you think that that's physically possible then. Yes. In 2017, James typed up his findings. Albeit more succinctly than how he just explained it to me. Then gave his report to 12th district medical examiner, doctor Russell Vega. And we all know what happened next. They get changed John's manner of death from a homicide to undetermined. Since James was willing to go into the nitty Gritty with me about his report, I made sure to pin down a few things with him, specifically a handful of discrepancies I'd read on the first few pages. In your report, one of the things that you had stated was that the victim's father was deceased and I don't know if that was just a clerical error, but Mack wells is definitely alive, so I'm not sure if he were referring to, I'm not sure who you were referring to in your report. Who told you Matt was alive? Mack wells is alive. I actually spoke with him. So are you sure? Yeah, Mack wells is a live Melvin straighter is dead, and that was the victim's grandfather, he died. One month roughly before John is that who you might be referring to? Is he a junior? No, so Melvin Melvin straighter senior was John's grandfather and lived on the property. Melvin Eugene straighter junior, also known as skip, was John's uncle who was living their temporarily to run the sawmill. So maybe I remember that. Maybe that's what you were thinking of. Also too, in your report, you had stated that there was a recall on John's gun by Ruger. I actually attached that to my case package to the recall. Right, but it's actually confirmed with Ruger that John's Gunn did not have a recall. It was a new model single 6. The recall paperwork from Ruger for that type of revolver was for a model revolver, not the same manufacturing year. So did you actually double check with Ruger? Yeah, I have verified that one Ruger. Okay, so yeah, I'm not used to the quick shoot thing. And they also told me if you do that, too many times, where's off the gun and it causes even more issues where it can go off accidentally. Sorry, what do you mean by quick shoot? Can you explain that for me? And I can shoot in the shooting shooting. Okay, and who was it that told you John handled his gun that way? He was a matter of fact. Except that's not what James wrote in his report. On page four of his own findings, James wrote that it was Mac wells who told original investigators that John carried his gun irresponsibly. You all know after listening to season four that Mac denies saying that. And more than one person has confirmed to me that John never handled his gun haphazardly. But how John handled his gun wasn't the big thing I wanted to address with James. No. I wanted to get to a much more important issue. I would have more concrete, good feelings about bevel Gardner and associates if they had done physical testing with a firearm and said, hey, yeah, this gun can we have results that say it can go off accidentally, but there's no firearms experiments that back up. The sequence of events that is in your report and that's why I'm just trying to figure out how this report can be a 100% accurate if there is no evidence to support the firearm going off accidentally. All right, would you have is a bunch of people that have no clue a polygon even seen a dead body? Well, I have a forensic pathologist. He's
CounterClock
"de soto" Discussed on CounterClock
"Saying it. Other family members who I think like it or not, considerably failed John, are skip and pat straighter. Regardless of their reasons why, they hid critical evidence and information from law enforcement investigators. In doing so, they thwarted the police's ability to investigate the crime scene, unmanipulated. The choices skip and pat made on the day John died and in the days after, crippled the authorities ability to do their job in some ways. As adults, the fact that they did not even attempt lifesaving measures on John when they found him face down in the water was a lack of action, I'm not sure I'll ever be able to understand or reconcile in my mind. The one person that I think didn't fail John was his best friend, Patrick scanner. A voice you've heard throughout this entire series. Patrick spoke with police willingly, every time they asked, he never wavered on his story, and he's been the only person to not run and hide when asked to discuss the intimate details of this case. He sat down with me, a total stranger, nearly 20 years after finding his friend dead in the water, and he didn't hold back. I believe Patrick sincerely wants to know what happened to John and is upset. He's never gotten clear answers. He genuinely still misses his best friend, and you can hear it in the way he talks about John. I would love for him to be able to meet my wife, meet my daughter. I don't have a lot of close friends and never have. He was one of my close friends. It would be nice to have someone like him, you know, I've got those things that come with. I don't want to leave this story open ended, but sometimes that's just the nature of this line of work. There's not a pretty bow to tie up everything with a happy ending. I'll tell you, though, that I feel this case is far from over, or at least there's a bit of light that I think is coming from a cracked door that will just take a bit of pushing to swing wide open. And possibly result in some big changes. Just a few months ago, doctor Russell Vega called Helen Hough. They spoke for half an hour, and afterwards, she called me. She said that Vega told her he was not an expert in the way firearms function. He solely depended on law enforcement's information when he changed John's manner of death in 2017. He said he didn't have enough expertise to know if the information that he was given was wrong. He specifically said that he did not consider John's death to be a true accident. He said he actually leans more toward it not being an accident. However, based on the info he got, he felt there was enough doubt raised that he changed the death certificate. He told Helen that he couldn't and wouldn't swear in court to John's death being a result of an accident. But what he needs is more information. He said he had no problem with FDL getting involved again if they chose to. He also said he'd be happy to speak with Ruger firearms as well. Whatever it took to give him cause to evaluate the case for a second time. Until he's provided new credible information from an official law enforcement source that contradicts what he was given in 2017, Vega unfortunately just won't be able to do anything with the case. So here's where I think you the listeners can help. If you believe that the criminal investigation into John's death needs to be reopened, then right, call, email, snail mail to Florida department of law enforcement's headquarters. You can also contact their Sebring Florida office, which is the office that handled John's case in the very beginning. You should also contact de Soto county sheriff's office. You can also reach out directly to the district 12 medical examiner's office in Sarasota. Contact information for all of those agencies is in the show notes and on our website, counterclock podcast dot com. This July is the 19th anniversary of John's death. If he were still here, he'd be 36 years old by now. Who knows? Maybe he'd have opened up that general store, he told his mom about. Maybe he'd have some kids. A family life better than his own. Maybe he'd be a business owner. Nobody will ever know what would have been. But he's not here. He never made it out of that pasture in July of 2003. The same land that to this day is heavily fenced and barbed wired off from visitors. After all the work I've put into investigating this case, I've realized that my initial assessment about all that security on the southeast hansel property might have been wrong. I don't think the barriers in signage are about keeping people out. I think they're there to keep something in. Something that may explain who took John wells future. Something that can only be uncovered by reexamining the past. I hope you all enjoyed listening to this season of counter clock and take action to contact the entities I told you about. If you like the show and want to see more behind the scenes videos and pictures of the people, places and evidence involved. Go to our website, counterclock podcast dot com. Like we've done with all of the seasons so far, executive producer Ashley flowers and I will be back in a few weeks with a bonus Q&A episode to answer your burning questions about season fours case. Be sure to email your questions to counterclock at audio chuck dot com. Only submissions to that official email account will be read and reviewed. Counterclock is an audio chuck original show. The executive producer is Ashley flowers, and all research reporting and writing is done by me. Your host, Delia de ambra. So what do you think, chuck? Do you approve?.
CounterClock
"de soto" Discussed on CounterClock
"In the state of Florida, you can access a ton of information records and legal filings. If you know where to look. According to the de Soto county clerk of court's office, there's a large volume of records on file regarding the probate of Mel senior's estate, but those filings are sealed. They're considered private, not public. So I can only see abbreviated headings for significant filings in the case. And none of the descriptions indicate that a will was ever found for Mel senior or read in any kind of official proceeding. From what I could see, most of the court submissions have to do with pad, his widow, filing paperwork to ensure she was a representative of his estate. Attorneys I've spoken with say that if Mel senior ever made a will or modified an existing one, it likely was never entered into a court system. Meaning the original document and any copies that were made only exist with whoever had the original, and the law firm that would have helped him draft it. The problem is, there are literally thousands of law firms in Southwest Florida that Mel senior could have consulted to help him craft a will or rework one to add John as a beneficiary. He could have used legal services anywhere in de Soto county or in Lee county, where he was originally from. I've had no luck in finding a firm that could have done this for him. Attorneys retire die or merge firms all the time. There's just no way to know if Mel's seniors will still exist, or who has a copy of it now 19 years later. What I do know is that by the end of 2003, sorting out Mel's probate proceedings without a will allowed things to move swiftly in pat's favor. The court decided by default that she would get full control of her husband's remains and assets. She buried him in Joshua creek cemetery in the huff family plot, where coincidentally John would also be buried. And according to Carrie and Helen, pat eventually worked out a deal with skip to divvy up the north Fort Myers property. There was a little two one house frame house with a really nice barn, skip ended up having to go get a mortgage to pay her to get his own home back that he was actually living in. Skipping I got a new mortgage on bay shore in return to get bay shore. We had to buy, we had to give her money, pat money, and we had to give her the 40 acres with the cattle on it on 31 up here. That's the only way that we could get base or back. After Patton skip finalized their deal, Gary says everything pretty much went back to normal. It went on for a few more months and pat laid off the skip. She had told everybody in Arcadia she thought skip did it. But she kind of let up for a little while. By spring of 2004, Carrie and skip were working on renovating the dilapidated bay shore roadhouse, and pat sold off most of Mel senior's acreage along with the cattle. The sawmill remained untouched, though, and to this day still exists on the southeast tantal avenue property. I've been told that Matt wells, John's older brother, maintains it. But when my associate producer David Payne and I took a trip to Arcadia to check it out. We didn't get the impression the sawmill is still operable. There's a distinct feeling that there is to be no access to any of this. For whatever reason. There are three locks on this gate now. Which is no trespassing signs. Which is to the sawmill, which if the sawmill is still active, I mean, I get that. There's some equipment back there. There's some trailers. There's some tractors. That's expensive stuff. But the signage and just sort of the extent of security here and the fact that all of the neighbors seem to be as on board with that is just interesting to me. It didn't take long after we got out there before a friendly neighbor pulled over to ask us what we were doing. Did you live here back in 2003? Oh yeah. Name's Edward mason. Hey, nice to meet. I'm Delia, this is David. We're doing some research about what happened to John in 2003. John wells, the teenager. We're trying to kind of chat with some people in the area to figure out, you know, people that were here and it was a big deal and that was. My total knowledge of it was merely that he ended up disappearing. He had gone out shooting or hunting whatever the case may be on that and didn't find him. The point was he didn't come back and then when they found his body, he was shot. Did you ever have any interaction with him? No, no, I, other than just neighbors. Is that the sawmill that they used to wrap? Okay. Oh, they still use it. Yeah. Matt is brother. Gotcha. Does Matt live here with pat? Yes. Okay. So the sawmill is still active, despite looking like it's been closed for years. Before Edward drove away from us, I asked him if he knew pat, and he said, he'd known her for decades. He called her Patsy. When I asked him if he'd ever spoken to her about John's murder, or would respond well to us knocking on her front door. He had a strange reply. Patty wasn't shooting anybody. Patsy wouldn't shoot anybody. I had to wonder why that was the response he chose. From the looks of things, pat and skip made out pretty well when it came to keeping control of Mel senior's north Fort Myers property and the sawmill in Arcadia. In the wake of skip and pat's arrangement, Helen was outraged. When the one year anniversary of John's murder rolled around, law enforcement had still gotten nowhere in the case, and the two people Helen felt knew more than they were saying, were living normal lives and splitting up property she felt would have been intended for John if he'd lived. She couldn't prove that, but still, she had a gut feeling. Everything that had happened in the first year of her son's death caused Helen to reach her breaking point. She launched her own public awareness campaign, which included printing and posting hundreds of neon yellow fliers that offered an undisclosed monetary reward for information in the case. At the top of the flyer was an ominous message written in bold. It said, quote, do the right thing and set yourself free. Clear your conscience. The flyers featured a photo of John along with a copy of his death certificate. Helen even paid to have several large campaign signs printed with similar messaging. You can see photos of these signs on the blog post for this episode. Every day, Helen would drive from Lee county to de Soto county in staple hundreds of her flyers on telephone poles and fence posts surrounding her mother's property in Arcadia. And in northport Myers, at carrion skip's house,.
CounterClock
"de soto" Discussed on CounterClock
"Somewhere back in time, a life was taken. From 2006 until 2009, the name John wells faded from people's memories, just like his picture faded from the yellow flyers, Helen, his mom spent hours nailing to telephone poles all around Arcadia. Based on everything I've read in police reports, law enforcement's investigation into what happened to the 17 year old, slowed to a standstill during these four years. It was complete radio silence. One thing I can confirm happened was that Kurt May's interviewed Kevin Callahan in jail. But that got the investigation nowhere. In the public space, local newspapers stopped running articles for the anniversary of John's death, and his high school friends graduated, grew up and moved away. During that time, former de Soto son newspaper reporter Steve Blanchard also left Arcadia and with his departure went the last journalist who ever showed interest in the case. When I tracked him down all these years later, he hadn't heard the name John wells in over a decade. What was your reaction when you saw my message and you saw, I was saying, John wells, 2003, what was your thoughts? It was surprising because I'm not even a journalist anymore. And when you're in a small town like that, you really see your audience as the people in that bubble, and nobody beyond. So when I left that bubble, I kind of left all that there. I had to reread your email a couple of times because I'm like, is she serious? Who is this? How did she find me? But it was also exciting because it's a part of my life. I had thought about it a long time. So going back to what I brought up and during our interview I showed Steve clippings of articles he wrote in 2003, and after going down memory lane, he made an interesting comment that I think lies at the core of this case and should be something everyone should think about. If it was a murder, which was determined to be that at the beginning, you know, that means somebody committed a crime and then get caught for it and therefore they're still out there and what kind of danger is that to anybody else. I mean, if I was still living there, that would be my concern. Is there an actual murderer on the loose? God, I hope not. But if there is, that's a lot to worry about. Steve went on to say that time passing by slowly isn't necessarily a bad thing. Sure, there are obvious downsides to a stalled investigation, but the same days and years that frustrate law enforcement are the same days and years that weigh heavily on whoever killed John. Things have changed so much in the past ten, 15, 20 years, that there's more resources available to get more information. Was John accidentally shot by a friend who fled and never told anybody and is freaked out and was that person protected because it was accidental. You know, there's so many questions you just don't know. But I think things like a podcast that deals with true crime, broadens the scope of people who may know something or may have heard something who can say, you know what? Now that I think about it that day, I remember whatever it might be, and that could be the key that opens things up. A question I've found myself asking a lot throughout various points in this investigation is did DeSoto county sheriff's office use time to their advantage? Did they do anything from 2006 to 2009 to shake answers from pat Schrader or dig up new clues? Did they try to find more corroborating information to support any of their circumstantial or even limited physical evidence? The answers to those questions are no, no and no. I know this because I've spoken with critical witnesses who were never contacted by law enforcement. Witnesses who were easy to find and who know very valuable information. Hello. Hi..
CounterClock
"de soto" Discussed on CounterClock
"No. As I read through hundreds of pages of reports for this case, I found something that might explain one reason this second autopsy was requested. A short line in Meghan's sim racks investigative report states that in late July, the DeSoto county sheriff Johnny fugate had heard a rumor that John may have been a victim of sexual abuse. She noted that the sheriff's concerns about that rumor were what prompted this unusual request. Doctor Anderson had checked for signs of sexual trauma during John's first autopsy, which is standard procedure, but he didn't find anything that indicated that had ever taken place. So why law enforcement wanted to be extra sure on that? Made no sense to doctor Anderson. I ran this information by Patrick skinner during one of our recent interviews, and he firmly said, John never spoke of being sexually abused. Did you ever know John to express that he had been a victim of sexual abuse or molestation or anything in his family history? No. The definitive no, nothing was ever expressed to me and none of anything that he ever confided in me ever led me to believe anything like that. Regardless of what law enforcement's motivation was in asking for a second autopsy, doctor Spitz conducted one. What he concluded was the same as doctor Anderson. John had not been a victim to any kind of sexual trauma, and without a doubt, his manner of death was homicide. In Spitz's report, he stated, quote. It is my opinion that mister John wells was shot in the head by another person. It is also apparent that following the shooting, mister wells body was dumped in a creek located a short distance from where the shooting occurred. It appears that mister wells was still alive at the time his body was dumped in the water. The day after this second autopsy, the Emmy's office and law enforcement released John's body to John's parents, Helen and Mack. In the weeks between July 8th, and July 25th, Helen had fought hard to have a de Soto county court, grant custody of John's remains to her anthrax husband. As a way of keeping pat from having last rites, and Helen won. John's funeral took place on July 26th at the only funeral home in downtown Arcadia. During the service, Helen's friends and supporters stood on one side of the funeral hall, and pat skip and their friends stood on the other. Also in the mix was Patrick and his mom, Beth flowers, and lots of John's other teenage friends. And last but not least, law enforcement was there. Needless to say, the scene was tense. Helen was watching her mother's every move. The casket was closed at the end of the funeral, but they said when pat came out and she got to that coffin that she broke down and started screaming and oh my God, oh my God, it was such a terrible terrible accident. And I've said this a thousand times. She has kept saying that from the day things hit the fan. It was a horrible, horrible accident. Helen distinctly remembers a conversation the funeral director had with her regarding things he'd seen on John's body. Fred Grady was a long time funeral director, funeral guy. He had his own business, but he was older and it was ponder case and Grady or whatever at some point in time. He knew all of our family members he worked on half of them in the plots and all that stuff. So he said something about that boy put up a fight and he says, what? He says, yeah, he put up a fight, something about marks on his fingers. I can't interview Fred Grady for myself because he passed away many years ago, but I think what he was talking to Helen about had to do with the scratches and abrasions that doctor Anderson had initially observed on John's body. Those marks alone couldn't definitively confirm foul play. But I guess they stood out enough to the mortician that he felt like he needed to mention something to Helen. By the end of July, John was in the ground and to settle county sheriff's office, had to accept that they had a true whodunnit murder on their hands. Two forensic pathologists had confirmed John died as a result of a homicide. But investigators had no way of proving how it had happened or who was responsible. At least not yet. Within a matter of weeks, forensic results from the FDLE lab started coming in, and what they revealed, nothing is what it seems. Is coming up on the next episode of counterclock. Did you find it odd that John fingerprints weren't on that gun? Absolutely. Listen to episode 7, sweetheart. Right now..
CounterClock
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"He said something, you're not welcome at the funeral, whatever, and I said something like, do I look like I'm going to a funeral? I said, I'm not going to the funeral. I said he just doesn't belong there. And then you can tell he wanted to fight, and it wasn't going to go anywhere. So I got my truck and left. And as I did, he drew a fit and there's a stop sign right there. He was hitting the stop sign and stuff and I came to the house. So John was mad at you the last time you guys talked. About Mel, do you remember the last words he said to you? It was something, you know, I think when he said, come on, you want a piece of me and started like, he wanted to fight. And I think I said, what's wrong with you because I described him and you didn't have any glasses or sunglasses or or nothing? And I remember his eye, he just had like pin, the iris, not the IRS, the people, was like the size of a pen, you know? Coke, and when he had taken his shirt off, you know, if you don't bathe him a couple days, you have that Sheen and that oiliness and it wasn't like him 'cause he was a clean kid. And I said, who the are you? What's wrong with you? And you know, I think it just made him more angry because I'm not in my mind, his face is my son, but his actions and he would never talk to me that way 'cause I never allow that. It just did not ever happen. If they did, it was behind my back. He did not do that to me. I did some digging to figure out if John had gotten into any trouble or had a rap sheet related to drug use during the summer of 2003. And turns out he did. A very, very small rap sheet. According to police reports I found with the Charlotte county sheriff's office, a jurisdiction that neighbors de Soto county. John was picked up for misdemeanor marijuana possession on May 4th, 2003, and released the same day. The incident occurred during a traffic stop three days after his 17th birthday. The arresting agency doesn't have any paperwork still available about the arrest, but from what I gathered based on the booking sheet in court records, it appears John didn't serve any time for this, and it was pretty much dropped. But I think that's because by the time it rolled around onto a court docket, John was already dead. The record his arrest generated, though, was definitely something de Soto county authorities investigating his murder paid attention to. They wanted to drill down on his possible drug history as one avenue of investigation. And the people they needed to talk to were not his tight lipped grandmother and step uncle. The people detectives needed to speak with were John's friends. Specifically, one friend. Patrick skinner Patrick was not only an insider into John's life and habits, but he was also a witness who investigators knew had been at the original crime scene with pat and skip. And it was Patrick, who authorities hoped would tell them everything they wanted to know about the dynamics between grandma, grandson, and step uncle. I do know he wanted to get out. Of Arcadia? Not out of Arcadia specifically out of the House he was living in. That's coming up in episode four skinner. Listen, right now..
CounterClock
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"For that silt to settle. For almost two decades, Patrick has lived with a lot of internal guilt about the fact that he didn't do things differently 19 years ago. I felt actually guilty about not forcing myself down there to try to help him. But I think it's mainly the cops that made me feel guilty about that. I mean, if you're ever in the situation I was in. Sometimes it's hard to say what you would do until you're put in that situation. It did not sit right with DeSoto county detectives that neither Patrick pat or skip had attempted CPR on John when they first found him. It's something Kim pointed out during Patrick's interview and about a half hour later when she got a crack at pat. But because neither of their responses had been anything other than, well, we assumed he was dead because he'd been gone so long, Kim had to move on. The investigation had too much ground to cover to get hung up on that. Like you heard in the last episode, we know Kim interviewed pat on July 9th, around 1 o'clock. Shortly after speaking with Patrick. Investigators didn't clear her or Patrick as potential suspects after their initial interviews. But based on some of the things they said, authorities felt confident the last of the prime witnesses skip had to be questioned in quick succession as well. Everything in the case was rapidly evolving. And by the time de Soto county sheriff's office got skipped in the hot seat, at two 15 p.m. on July 9th, an FDLE special agent had joined the interrogation process. That agent, named John Smith, along with Kim Lewis, wanted to know how skip's version of events was going to stack up against Patrick and pat's stories. Based on what police had learned so far, skip was the last person to see John alive. Writing off into the Woods on the four Wheeler at 1230 on July 8th. Skip was the guy authorities had to pin down and pin down is exactly what they did. You lied to me. I'm sorry. You lied to me over a couple of things. Which causes me to really think you're up your eyeballs in this stuff. That's coming up in episode 5 skip. Listen, right now..
CounterClock
"de soto" Discussed on CounterClock
"Oh, he took his pistol with him. Pat straighter told a de Soto county emergency dispatcher that 17 year old John owned a gun and he took it with him when he went to dump the trash. My point here is that if investigators had keyed in on this small detail from the 9-1-1 call from the jump, they might not have misjudged the crime scene so much. To give them the benefit of the doubt, though, even doctor Anderson says John didn't have any obvious signs of being a gunshot victim. And unless you knew the autopsy findings, no one could have known he'd been shot. Anyway, the first thing to settle county sheriff's office chief deputy Bill wise and sheriff Johnny fugate chose to do in order to reconcile Hal John could have been shot in the Woods, was to take a trip back to grandma's house and speak with pat. When she answered, the sheriff asked her point blank if she and skip John step uncle had noticed or found a gun near the trash pile and four Wheeler when they discovered John in the ditch the day before. Her answer was yes. According to police reports, pat told authorities that she and her stepson skip along with a teenage boy from down the street named Patrick skinner, who was friends with John, had all three found John dead. She said when they made the discovery, they also saw John's Ruger 22 Magnum single action 6 shot revolver, laying in the sand near the four Wheeler. She said they also found a belt, a nylon holster, and an olive green colored thigh strap for a firearm, scattered between where the ATV was parked and where they ultimately found John in the water. Paddock explained to the sheriff that she'd purposely removed the gun, holster belt, and strapped from the scene before police arrived, because she was afraid that she would get in trouble for allowing John, who was underage to carry a firearm. At the time, she said she didn't think it had anything to do with him drowning. She emphasized that she thought he'd been stung by bees and gone to the water to get away from them. A sentiment you repeatedly hear her mention in the 9-1-1 call. I believe he might have gotten some answer a wall for something stung in. To me, I'm a description of this fan. If there were beans or something after him, he would have been in there and been over here honestly. Pat was John's legal guardian who still had ongoing legal issues with Helen. She said it wouldn't bode well for her to be the responsible adult who led a teen carry a gun alone in the Woods. At that point, law enforcement wasn't sure what to make of her story. They told pat straight up that John had been shot and explained why what she had done not only made her skip and Patrick looked bad, but technically they'd interfered in a murder investigation. Pat's reaction to that was to hand over everything to police and agree to come to the station for a sit down interview. The story that followed is one investigators had to navigate carefully. Now I don't remember in here exactly, but Patrick found the gun. Laying right beside the four Wheeler. He said, that's unusual. He picked up that gun because pat told him to. Pick up the gun and see if it's been shot. That's coming up in episode three. Story. Listen, right now..
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Shop at urban stems dot com and use code counterclock for 15% off your first purchase and free shipping. That's urban stems dot com with code counterclock. For 15% off your first purchase and free shipping. In John's stomach, doctor Anderson found roughly two cups of fluid and undigested food material. Indicating John had eaten breakfast or an early lunch just hours before his death. Usually the stomach called empty pretty much in a couple hours because again, it depends on how much you eat. You know, you take huge steak dinner, it may take longer, you just take a few bites of something, it's going to be quicker. So if this victim ate breakfast that morning, for example, this partially digested food could be what that is. Would it be his dinner from the night before? Probably not. Dinner would have been processed already. Correct. When Anderson ran tox screens on John's urine, the results showed that John had acetaminophen, cannabinoids, cocaine, and benzoyl echinacea in his system. Now, cannabinoid is just a chemical term for cannabis. Cocaine, that's pretty straightforward. And benzoyl lexine is what's excreted after cocaine is broken down by your liver. What's interesting to me is that according to John's toxicology documents, all of those things showed up in John's urine, not his blood. I brought this up to doctor Anderson during our interview because I wanted to understand why the substances only appeared in John's urine. Why would drugs show up on a urine test sample and not on a blood? Like what does that indicate about when he consumed those drugs? Well, indicate that it was some time before. Because in the liver has had time to clear whatever it is to say cocaine been selecting from the blood, but it's still basically goes through the kidney and it ends up in the air. And so you'll detect drugs in the urine long after someone has stopped using them. So it may be absent in the blood. But if he had used these substances that morning or even a few hours that night before, would they have shown up in his blood? Well, it depends actually how much was, because the liver can deliver clear at a certain rate. So if you don't have a lot of it, then you may get the liver clearing that out of the blood, but you'll still find it the urine. So it probably was earlier up, you know, maybe the day before or so and probably not a lot. If it was a lot what it had had to have been several days before, if we're talking several lines of like, it would have had to been significantly a few days before. Yes. All right. So what I took from his answer was that more than likely, John had not taken a hit of cocaine on the morning of July 8th, or shortly before his death, or else Anderson would have found high levels of it in his blood and unprocessed amounts of it in his liver. Same goes for the cannabis. Doctor Anderson's final ruling at the end of John's 7 page autopsy report was clear. He felt that the teens cause of death was complications from a penetrating missile injury to the head, and the manner of death was a homicide. Regardless of what the doctor had found in John's stomach and toxicology, he was convinced those substances did not contribute to John's death. Anderson wrote in his report that the most likely scenario, based on his external and internal pathology findings, plus the slightly downward trajectory of the bullet, was that John had been murdered. The doctor drafted an official death certificate and signed it, specifying that he believed John was shot by another person. Well, first of all, it's a dissonant gunshot wound, and that indicates that in all likelihood the person was shot by someone else. It was having a saying in medicine if you hear hoof beats in the United States, your diagnosis probably is horses and said a zebras. Whereas in Africa, it might be different. So you take the most likely. After completing his findings, Anderson shared everything he'd learned with de Soto county sheriff's office. According to case reports I dug up, that was around 11 in the morning on Wednesday, July 9th. And no one at that point, other than doctor Anderson and law enforcement knew John had been shot. Naturally, by that time, the word of John's reported drowning had spread all over Arcadia. Internally, the sheriff's office had produced incident reports of their call out to southeast hansel avenue from the day prior. One of the first people to read those reports was former de Soto San newspaper reporter, Steve Blanchard. I would visit with the women in records who knew me because I would go there every day. They would either tell me, oh, there's some good stuff in there. You might want to check out XYZ or I would just pick them up and head back to the office and then go through them. If I found a story that was interesting, I would usually go back to the sheriff's office and ask to speak with major will wise. And he was my main contact at the sheriff's office. Chief deputy William Bill wise was one of the de Soto county staff members on scene the afternoon John was found. He didn't return my calls for an interview for this podcast, but back in 2003, Bill was Steve's main source at the sheriff's office. I would go in and I would sit at his desk and we would have a very candid conversation. We had a really good conversation most of the time because he trusted me. And he knew what I would and wouldn't report on and we kind of had an understanding of what was on the record and what was off the record. So I built a lot of trust, which let me get a lot of great stories. An accidental drowning of a teenage boy on a local farm was sad, but in terms.
CounterClock
"de soto" Discussed on CounterClock
"Shot. No one would learn that information until the following day. July 9th. Beth flowers was one of those people who stopped by pat straighters house to see her. Just like everyone else, Beth was completely in the dark as to what had happened to her ex-boyfriend. Right after arriving to the southeast handsel house, she started getting weird vibes. Skip was visibly drunk. Everybody else was very distraught and emotional and said, and he was just, I don't know, I'm like, of course, people may drink whenever something like that happens, but he was just weird. Like, I don't know. It was definitely off. Beth says skip's behavior that night never set well with her. Later that week, she said pat allowed her to come by and stay the night in John's room one evening as a way to cope. During that visit, she only had interaction with pat, who seemed to be acting like you'd expect a grieving grandmother to be acting. I didn't seem off with her at all, but it definitely seemed a weird with his uncle. Beth didn't see skip and never did for the rest of the week. By the time July 15th rolled around, though, and de Soto county investigators had formally interviewed her. Beth wasn't sure if she could trust anyone in John's family to give her straight answers. Rumors were swirling in Arcadia and Beth found herself having more and more questions for John's grandma and step uncle. I just don't understand the steps of what went on and how exactly did he get fell like if he got found by all three while we're all three there. I don't believe that Patrick had anything to.
WTOP
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"Green Bay leading San Francisco at halftime yes low scoring first half from Lambeau Field In fact Green Bay went down on their first possession made it look easy scored but then since nothing they actually had a field goal blocked at the end of the first half after San Francisco was in the red zone and Jimmy Garoppolo through an interception in the end zone So again Green Bay leading San Francisco 7-Zip NFC divisional playoff Now earlier in the AFC 52 yard field goal at the buzzer Cincinnati beats since Tennessee rather 1916 in Nashville despite Joe burrow getting sacked 9 times Bengals defense got a big time interception Ryan Tannehill with about 30 seconds left They go down and get the field goal and advance the AFC championship game for the first time since 1988 All the ice going over time in Capital One arena capitals and Ottawa Castro down two zip but thanks to the great 8 alexandrov veteran goals 28 and 29 of the season is ovi and the caps all tied up with the senators two two heading to overtime a Capital One arena Sidwell Friends girls basketball Number one in the nation showed Y comes back and beats number two de Soto from Texas 60 55 in the championship game of an invitational in Minnesota College hoops Georgetown falls to Villanova 85 74 army comes from 27 down to beat navy 74 73 and overtime GW tops Rhode Island 63 61 AU Virginia and Virginia tech all suffered losses on Saturday And the national women's soccer league board of governors pretty much clearing the way for Michelle Kang to own the Washington spirit And the senators in fact the caps of just want in overtime Capitals win Beat the senators three to two at cap on arena Frankie hanran WTO sports Thank you Frank We'll check traffic and weather next 9 47.
ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes
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"All right, 8 four four 747 88 68. The lines are full, and we're just going to get right to it. Here folks, it is an open line Friday, which means you can talk about whatever you want to talk about. You can be off topic today on Friday. I want to go to Steve and central Arkansas, who wants to weigh in on the crime situation in Memphis, hey Steve, what's going on? Are you talking about the veil and Mathis and why are people don't vote these politicians that are in control out, I think probably the problem is people have already voted, but instead of voting at the ballot box, they voted with their feet. Most of the people that would vote this out of Memphis don't live in Memphis anymore. They live in northern Mississippi. They live in all the suburbs and stuff. This started basically 50 years ago or better with people leaving these big cities and now we're seeing the results. So when we moved away to your point, when we moved away from the area, a north Mississippi is right along the state line and also the city limits of Memphis. I lived in a town called south haven, and I think maybe the population was about three, four, maybe 5000 people. This would have been in the late 1970s. Steve the population of deserto county right now. Almost a 190,000 people. And to your point, that's where people have just, they have evacuated the city. I mean, basically, de Soto county became a refugee zone for all these people wanting to get out of Memphis. Yes. And we're saying the results of what it's doing to the city. I'm a little ahead of Utah. I left Memphis in 1972. And I would almost be willing to bet I was born and raised there. I was all both be willing to bet the city limits of Memphis itself are still about in the same place they were when I left in 19 72. Yes, I think you're right there about that Steve and it's funny because they actually had a mayor, a guy by the name of Willie Harrington and he actually tried to incorporate northern Mississippi into the they had to tell him you can't do that. It's another state. I'll take it one step further. We're even seeing this same phenomenon, carry over to whole states, I believe. Well, look, a Little Rock Arkansas. Your crime rate there is almost as bad a percentage wise as what's happening in Memphis, which is number one in the nation, by the way. But this is what we're seeing is crime being perpetrated in major American cities all controlled by Democrats every single one of them. So until we had a caller on a little while ago, who made a good point. It's not just the city councils. It's also about the district attorney offices and the prosecutors. We're going to have to get tough on crime. I mean, look at the criminals aren't stupid. They know they're going to be able to get away with it. Steve got to run. Appreciate you listening. 8 four four 747 88 68. Got to take a break. We'll be right back. You know, we really are the only conservative talk radio station in the country with our own DJ. Now that's DJ Kyle. And maybe grace, wouldn't it be.
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KLIF 570 AM
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"Get training. Right, You know, I mean, it's having been through the training. I could tell you how critical it is. Yeah, at least for me to understand Not only how to use a gun, but when you can, and you can't there. There are very strange laws like you can't shoot someone in the back. You know if they're like going away from you, you know there's there even if they've stormed in your house and and threatened your family, and they turn around to leave and you shoot him? No, you got big trouble. And if you don't teach that stuff to people, there's gonna be a lot of big trouble for people that should never have gotten into a lot of lawsuits. Another big bill, they passed. This one's fascinating to me. They're calling it the Tim Tebow Bill. Tim Tebow. You everyone knows the athlete of college quarterback didn't do so great. The NFL, you know, I just got a job. It's a tight end. Deeply religious. Yep. Uh, basically what This will allow. Allow Private school students. So if you're in high school, your private school or you're home schooled actually sees in that private school home schooled. Then you can participate in public school sports. So I invited kid in home school him in Allen, Texas. He could go play for the Alan Eagles football team if he wanted to. And so that that's getting passed in the Legislature. Now, a lot of coaches makes as much sense as the people who register their kids in the Allen school district when they live in de Soto. Well, that's a whole nother conversation. That's another way of gaming. The system coaches say that what this might lead to those Is Thistle lead to student athletes who know they're gonna have a good future as a quarterback, or whatever to drop out of school and be quote, home schooled and then just train all day to be a good quarterback, or whatever. And, Yeah, I could see that happen. It's a possibility. But you know they're going to keep all the real student athletes who are home schooled from from from playing ball, right? That's the thing is like if I'm paying, Alan Eyes, D taxes and you sure as heck better Let me send the kid over. Doug. Try out for the team. Exactly. Right. All right. Let's see. The Congress has come up with an agreement apparently. On highway funding.
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Canine distemper confirmed at Fort De Soto Park
"Shooter dogs taken a to Soto park could be exposed to an often deadly canine disease. Pinellas county animal services says the couple of raccoons at the park of tested positive for canine. Distemper officials say you should not take your dog afford to Soto for now unless they've had distemper shots and don't have weakened