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Pizza Empire State of Mind | Mike Bausch (Andolinis Pizzeria) | DH088
"Welcomed the digital hospitality. I'm your host. Sean walsh jeff. This is kelly barbecue production. We talk about digital hospitality. That are running thesis. Every business needs to digital i and every business needs to be in the hospitality business. And what exactly does that mean. That means that there's never been a greater time to get involved with your smartphone It doesn't matter what business you're in. It doesn't matter the size of your business if you are an owner you have the ability to broadcast your message and teach people through example. Today's guest is mike. Bausch the owner of and elise pizza. He's an author. he has grown. You started in two thousand and five to five areas. He might have more than that but we'll ask him about it to lottery as food hall concepts of food truck a fine dining concept. He's a world pizza. Champion guinness book of world record holder. He's a writer for pizza today. He just published a book called on sliced how to stay hole in the pizzeria business. He was named a top ten pizzeria in the us by trip advisor. Buzzfeed cnn usa. Today this guy is fucking rockstar. And we're lucky to spend some time with him today. Mike welcome the show. You were having a very cool very much. appreciate it. Zometa start with a quote from you from your linked envied when you got your book published. It says i've noticed over the years that when people share more they get more in return the people that hold everything inside have any the people that hold everything inside. Never have anyone to cover their back watching out for them so it's a mixture of altruism and self interest that i'm releasing this book. I'm very proud of it. Which is not an easy statement to say if it didn't resonate in the hadn't poured over it countless times. I don't think i would ever be able to say that statement. I can recite this two hundred and fifty page plus book backwards and forwards. I took it from four hundred pages and edited down to only what i knew would be evergreen and solidly useful content. I hope that people reading it. They find a book that they can enjoy and gain. something from. This book is very much not. Hey come look at me or the mike boss story it is. Let's get to work and make your place better right now and it doesn't hurt if you laugh a little bit along the way at the screen. That's the things that we screwed up. And our journey. I want the info to be more important to the reader than it is to me the author truth. I stayed behind this the statal tested. Yeah that's a big part of it you know you don't want to have theoretical 's a lot of restaurant books might be someone. Hey this is how we develop this restaurant. And now i only could salt. And they haven't been in their store and a decade and there's a lot of value in ed wisdom to those guys but i'm living it adhere. It's also really really dan. Hard to write a book while running a lot of stores and I i pulled off. It wasn't easy. Took a lot of hours at and what i'm giving to the reader also on the audio but i think the audio book is the best way to listen to experience the book because any time. I have a joke or alright. I've tried to put emphasis on the rights. Allowable you get to experience that and know what i'm trying to say better at. It's a little bit more approachable. So i showed off doing stuff. Just do stuff. And when i wrote the book forward say we'll watch the reason for it. What's what are you trying to give it to. And ninety percent of it. When i started it was like i need to get the hell out of here. We get it on paper in most perfect way. Possible checking off my list. Move on because it's annoying me at this point. I was really good at fighting restaurant. Because i would look at the list of tickets at just say i gotta get going. I like checking shit off like go. Get it to go and not. Everyone's like that can overwhelm people going. When i have a list of things i can the larger. It is but i feel like i'm still a control of it makes me feel good. Yeah i think it it's really powerful. It's something that you know especially for people like you and me. That have been doing it for as long as we have. It gets to the point. I'm i'm working exactly on a digital hospitality book on our thesis for all the things that we do exactly what you said in your post. It's not about me. It's about all the things about teaching all the people no matter what business. You're in that if if we can do all these incredible cool things because of this technology that we've been given. There's no reason that you can't because it's such an exciting time. I mean you've made such a huge impact on the pizza. Business globally But more specifically in oklahoma in your in tulsa. Tell me about how you get started. You know where where. Where'd you get your humble start. The humility is coming for being irish catholic. Italian don't brag about yourself. The hell up the i think. Humility another big part of the humility of it is. I am your california. I would high-school college california. A highschool called day lasalle high school. Okay he s salle de la salle high school juggernaut of football long powerhouse. Powerhouse loggers football winning streak of history of the game of football. Yes no one has ever won more consecutive games. Now with that said i played football but that whole school had the same mentality which was work. Your balls off and shut the hell up about it. It's not it's yeah work get up early No one was yelling. Like the coach of that team. You'll ever would see hundreds of cobol coaches. that coach. Never yelled coach. Bob lout assir never yelled at. And he's he read the book to either friend of mine. He's a great guy and our mentality at that school vice year. We won all of every single sport whether it was a state or national evened out to academic decathlon which deals sell one things with a team of five foot eight hundred ninety pound guys. It was the running game. And and i'm not a master sports guy but i am a. Let's game this hard and i'd never had so much passion for sports and i was the captain of the wrestling team and the captain of the volleyball team. I sucked both sports. So when i got into the restaurant industry that it was the first thing i was like. Oh i could be good at this like yeah you work. Hard doesn't matter how tall short wide then doesn't matter if working hard are you thinking the next thing. That hasn't been thought of yet. Are you not thinking about your direct motivator in the sense of this is going to make me happy right now but making customer happy their happiness translates into my financial success and this month way better approach to life a. That's why i would. I think every kid should work a service job much more than a retail job. you take. Who's come up in the restaurant. Industry whereas acute worked the gap in the mall to diametrically opposed viewpoints on life. Yeah can you explain that. Because i i love. We have our own philosophy of the difference between customer service in retail and then hospitality in the restaurant business. Can you expand on that. So i mean if you either even back a house for a house here. I work hard for the product that people will spend their disposable income on for their happiness at Here to make their life better and then especially with the server if i resonate with this person created connection on the very short amount of time which is a skill set that can be used infinitely in life. I will be better for the dirty ed. Get more profit for doing it. It's an immediate response. A perfect immediate response on a very natural almost primal level and in retail. You could fold every single sweater at the gap in the most perfect way that's ever been. Here's your nine fifty an hour. you could edited. Just people are like okay. Well what do you need me to do. Full the sweaters. Check people out whether you check them out. Faster or slower doesn't matter maybe. Maybe there's an upsell if you sign up for a credit card. They don't lead they. You know they don't need but there's no wind there. There's just and with the restaurant industry and anyone does worked a restaurant hit immediately. Tell when they go out to dinner with someone at somewhat says is just snotty to a server Never worked a restaurant or just worked in hospitality yet. whether like. Excuse me this water. It's very like super cold like okay. I i never worked. A restaurant has no idea what they're wrong. So we're lucky. We're like i said start podcast where we're at this incredible point of of business technology media content creation. We've made friends all over the globe that also run podcast. Michael teen sager the hospitality mavericks. Which is an incredible podcasts. He's the one who introduced you. And i- bruce irvin. I know smart pizza marketing. You've been on his podcast eric. Katori unstoppable podcast. I've consumed all of those. I love your message in all of them. Also to the the one you did with bruce and the one you did with eric pre pandemic so you said you had three hundred and sixty employees Can you give us an update of eric. Eric was only like a month ago. Okay but Bruce was prepaid grizzlies pre pandemic. So yeah so reason. Bruce three sixty three sixty to seventy five okay. So you're already lean you're already lean. You didn't have to cut as much. How many full service restaurants do you have Six full service restaurants. So five that are full blowed brick and mortars one a full service dining than smaller things like airport location to food halls. The food halls are off line right now. The food truck is still. Were still moving on that. The gillette areas are bolted flux. Right now okay and the food hall. Are you running the entire food hall with multiple concepts are you a part of multiple. Concept's i two concepts in a place with twenty concepts that i do not run an and i noticed with the food hall. I'm super lucky. Take politics out of the bag. I'm very lucky tulsa where it's better laissez-faire it's very People big dumb asses and not wearing masks it tulsa proper especially. But it's not like. I have someone who says yeah. You can't patio dining or their no. It doesn't change the. It's so pro entrepreneur. You make the smart call at the customer. Figure it out Ended the food halls. They were very like hey. We don't wanna even jeopardized us so we're gonna have surely pickup and when it's purely pickup. What occurs is. It's like trying to think about buying sunglasses from the sunglass in the mall via the parking lot of the mall. Let's go buy some sunglasses from the parking lot of the mall. Not just not gonna take so. We had the positive another really weird very restaurants. Civic dynamic that occurred was apathy was occurring for the five employees. I have that location. They had no business. But i was like well. I want to keep the place. They want to keep them employed and they started to suck. Yep is starting to suck employees and they're like listen. We're gonna leave early today. We're closer berlin by the hours. You're there. I don't care if you don't get a dog dare you up and then i was. I'm better suited. Taking it to my other stores were really need staff. It's weird big. People think that there's a shortage of jobs not the restaurant. I'm begging people to like tamales work at the other stores and when they went to the other stores he's guys who were prime guys. They they're accurate had dipped. Yep yep yeah we've noticed a significant. I mean what's happening with the corona virus with the digital first with third party delivery the the entire job codes are changing in restaurants and in hospitality. So what we asked of a staff member. That was a server. That was a bartender before when we do open back up because we're as date of this recording we still haven't opened backup for dining just deliver and third party only but today's february twenty fifth You know we're hiring again for the first time but we're hiring for our ghost concept. Were hiring for our new concept which is our old concept but just new. It's different so you know the way that a server would come and serve tables. Were using technology now. Handhelds kiosks things to make it more efficient more profitable to ultimately benefit the customer. I mean at the end of the day. The biggest thing is to how how do we make. How do we get great barbecue to the customer on their not on our team and i think that's very frustrating for people that are used to. This is how i come in for my shift. This is how much money i'm gonna make. This is how big my section is going to be everything shifting at an incredibly quick rate the the i mean we're less affected than the coasts. Obviously but knowing what the growing up in new york new jersey at california living here. I know what is going on. The pizza community is a very tight community. So i'm talking to my guys across america all the time. Luckily it's pizzas pretty insulated. That people regardless of situation are going to have pizza by fine dining. I had to close in the quarter to last year. Just because it just didn't make sense and people weren't looking to spend disposable income very Uncertain economy but pizza. The hi ed option. I'm sure barbecue is the same way a high option either. If you're super rich you come down to it or if your bill it can still want to come up to it. And that's your new New version of five ninety. So it's pretty pre padded but to your point as the future goes ed but the next nine months three years will will show us. Qr ordering. i don't believe is going away. Will you are ordering at the table. Take more more market share Will people walk. Servers like the pendulum is a weird thing is the pendulum too. I wanna hug my server or is it gonna pendulum into i. Don't care if it's twenty twenty three. I expect your whole restaurant to be basques. Both are blurred completely viable to say otherwise would be i in a way too early prediction. This is probably a stupid prediction. But this is what i assumed today. I assume there's going to be the covid section. It will have a different name that will exist for the next five years like smoking section. Be like we have socially distanced tables outside purely for those customers who walked that yet. Poorly served by servers masks. Just like five to ten percent of the demo is still yacar. Wants badly hit by percent but we as a whole society said okay. Let's make gluten free options for five percent to assume that there's not going to be five to ten percent that are sure to wear for the next. Five years will be extremely short-sighted. I think that's i think that's a great point. And it's something that we definitely need to proactively You know in our brick and mortars but also on our online footprints as somebody that's been in the game as long as you have you you start. You started pre web two point. Oh pre iphone one released in two thousand and seven june twenty-ninth two thousand seven. I used that date because it helps me and our listeners. Understand how short of a time. The iphones been out and how much has changed and how quickly technology has changed. How much content creation social media search engine optimization website mobile i all these things that are so vital to what we do and what we hope. Our listeners inspires them to do Tell us about your journey about launching your first restaurant. dick teen years is a very interesting dynamic. Thousand and five fifteen years it. I i say this. I represent the last chapter by book and fifteen years keita. Tops was taught us adele teen years ago. But it fifteen years had no iphone. No facebook no any of that existed. Ed a somewhat as a twenty one year old employee. Now since they were six it's been complete part of life so have no aware of how randomly weird this is like. There's no door door knockers and bowel pack and was aliens because our original name was carlucci. Will maya tightening was carlucci and that was already somewhat copywriting and i had to come up with an eight. Why because of the phone book. Yes the yellow pages. Look at mattered. Own book mattered. And you're like. Oh where am i a phone book and i'll young. I'm thirty eight compared to most of the pizza guys like fifty five or they're like. Oh yeah we used to do it this way. We will do it this way. And i'm like you're from peru. That's a very odd to have the. It's there's so much happening. Fifty years. Then i at fifty years old. Think about nineteen fifty nine to nine hundred. Seventy four fifteen years ignited seventy for you. Went for black and white. Tv took full blown color. You went from the beatles are just a bug two. They recorded every album. They would ever record at broke up you for. No one had known what vietnam was to. We've been this war out of it. We're talking five presidents. So i can t nine hundred seventy four fifteen years to be clip and there could be nothing. There's nothing that compares since what the cotton gin to the last fifteen years of of industry and progression of media. Ed the light me now with all that separates of very top level radios. Thought is okay. How're you monetize ing it and not just monetize for your personal gain but for your i don't like iggy of things in terms of now we're gonna make money off Say product. I experienced first. The money will figure itself out yet. Are we using after the grandest experience. Possible for the coolest shit we could do. Because that's where we're making it is at you. Especially though this no one is going into san diego's. I want the second best barbecue town direct. They want i want the most would be meat. I can get. We probably chili's or something or i want the best so if your number two you're just dead when you're trying to be a brand in the food demo could being or you're the best and if you're going for pretty fucking good you're already fucked. You're already dead. So that's where. I look at it and curbside. Everyone be curbside. We use advanced curbside technology a decade. It of course of a year Online ordering that were debating it. They don't debate it anymore yet. The apple pay google pay amazon. Pay is moving at a lightning pace and apple pay. Whether it's online or that. I could tap my phone to the to the checkout all that having a po s provider. That's moving at lightning pace. would people say by all. It's really hard on the back end or or we like this because it's really easy our servers but it's not easy for the customer but it's really easy for our servers. I think those guys are are the ones who are going to miss the boat for sure we talk a lot about. Oh shit moments like oh shit. Technology moments Particularly because i had a lot of them you know when we first opened our business in two thousand and eight with my one of my best friends from college he was on facebook and i was giving him shit you know pretending that he was trying to pick up chicks like you know. What are you trying to do trying to pick up girls and then. I realized that we couldn't get anybody to come into our restaurant. We were struggling to pay our payroll. We need all market. I'll do whatever is possible to survive and if that means starting to facebook page fucking going to do that so that was like an ocean moment for me where we first claimed around facebook page. Do you have any oh shit moments when it comes to the digital and social digital so many. I'm not to say that to say out of Really hit your face was really interesting. Dynamic of social media is ice buyer to to work by balls often. Make the best thing i could do. Even with your like your the shit of what you do look at so much more. Yeah i'm like. I could be posting ten stories day of be or of the unlike and i'm not and then there's all these debates about content but there's so much more there's never it's never done. There's no there's no egg prize. It's just more and you have to keep going. And even if you're the shit you're not so i can look at comparatively in my market but still i'll see what someone else is doing like. Oh my god what. They're doing the like two thousand eight coming up with email campaigns. Do that at a very early level with eight hundred followers tried to make it a thing and You're being up to four in the morning on the email campaign Technology was very antiquated to make the thing look halfway decent yup and then even i had a gut check in two thousand sixteen two thousand seventeen where we were just doing everything right with our social. It's not it's not cool. it's not. I don't care about it and i just kind of tossed out. The playbook is of starting over I took the people that were doing. Pr which was good enough to have a social a purely having social ed. I want you to be purely dedicated to buy emails. I'm going to decide what it is. So i'm not to four. Am i'm going to say what a big promotion on garlic knots at goes like this. I want this. They want this takes your whole job is that yes and i'm just going to lose money for the next few months spending it on youtube to build this profile up and didn't work i bet on us. It always works for my bet on us. I take a loss of the beginning. I've yet to not pan out. Even originally with social a big aha moment was. I was speaking to me in the audience by doing the twitter myself. I was writing super in depth saw madman the night before is really like if your needs not dick whitman. Come to angelina you chilling. I can make the best of the best follow on the internet. And i like someone said you're really funny to the one out of eighty people like get your jokes and the people are like. Oh my god this guy so fucking funny and she's like you have moms that you want to get to ear but yeah she's like okay. How about what's your favorite pepperoni topping. Pizza that's lay. It was like well moms are gonna like it now to get this is a twenty twenty one mindset. Twenty ten was engaged with just at facebook. The wild west at everyone saw whatever you posted. So we're talking about pizzas. What's your favorite. What's what drink do you love and that type of stuff. Little corey to me at the time. But i saw the numbers increase Two thousand seventeen. I saw that there is people with cooler videos like we're going to produce a full-fledged skit or in-depth digital video at least once a month yeah but the beauty of the that used to be like a. I think i did a photo shoe or quarter of the photo shoot video shoot in two thousand fourteen at like three thousand dollars. Yes now to fifty three thirty five for stuff like that yet. So yeah. I think one of the most important things that we tell our audience people. Listen to this podcast. There's never been a time. Where so many different creatives are available to business owners whether they're a writer whether they're photographer whether they do video work where they do editing work. Podcast work audio. Like there's such a wealth of talent and they don't even need to be in your local area over my producers in portland oregon ian my writer. He's in austin texas You know you can start to build a team of incredibly talented people and start to do things that are compelling to you. i mean i i love this. The story that cal sussman he's He was a writer for the esquire. He is a podcast but he interviewed kobe bryant before he passed away. He went to kobe kobe. Bryant's studio and he behind kobe. Bryant's wall is a sign. That says make epic shit. And that's essentially the essence of what we try to do every day and the more that i talked to you the more i realized that you have the same blood type i mean. We don't have a lotta time on this earth. So let's do the things that pull us. You know when. I wake up every morning at three forty in the morning and get my day started for him. I'm doing that. Because i can't fucking wait. I can't wait to get after it. What's your every day. I am annoyed with me. And i'm like there's something smarter figured out yet. Go figured the shit up and what else is there. And i think. I've got better at like not be as hard on self general at take kind of taking a step back a lot of the stuff that i threw up on the wall like it see if it lands a book. I don't have any the eagles really worthless thing. Does it provide joining new benefit. And how much you love yourself. Today is how much you're screwing yourself over for tomorrow. But i i really tried really hard. And then it's landed into things that people are benefiting from it. But i get up. I work out. I think it's it's centers my mind a lot more to to work out it and be done with that before seven. Take my son to school or get him off the school with my wife. And then it's game on all day Colleague in early. I saw a tiktok video. Where they're like you know there's always somebody days if you're sleeping seven hours a day and you wake up at ten. Am versus waking up for him. It's still space still slept seven hours saved efforts in after going to bed late waking up at like eight the work throughout the day of going to bed at like one. I know i'm more productive getting up at four to five having work out of the way all my stuff pounding out emails when it's soft at dan the hours at night kind of superfluous identified with all my emails by eight call day again watch more productive. I excited. i'm excited own. Run shit in america. I think i'm surprised by people who aren't excited to do that. A lot of people at scary fear of success and it is about being different. You would think it's just normal. Oh i i don't want to answer a dancer. Demand i don't like i like seeing my ideas to fruition. I like building stuff. But a lotta people need a daddy and a lot of people. Don't like putting himself out on front street. And that's great. Because i need them in my life to do the other stuff. But that's not me so i grew up with. I never met my father. I grew up. My grandfather was an immigrant from. Bulgaria was born to be a farm boy. He made an incredible life. Became a medical doctor. World war two. I mean he raised me in la hoya very privileged part of san diego privilege part of the world but he was my inspiration for hard work in for curiosity he was the one that really set the bar for me to know that everything. Whatever i'm going to bitch about like he'd already done one thousand times. Fold much harder in a much more difficult situation. So that's why no matter what we go through. I go through on a daily basis. I have that grounded. Who who was your your guiding mentor. Who who set the bar for you. That's a very good example and it's very cool story. My dad's a lieutenant colonel of the marine corps who Signed on after having three kids at twenty at went into. Oc s officer candidate school. Which i went into as well. When i was by eighteen years old as a result i type. What juvenile diabetes. I know i had that and ocs did all the training. I was one hundred thirty five pounds on the edge of death and thought and then i feel like diabetes. I'm not admi wilford grimly. It as a kid to the juvenile version net and at that point i thought life i know how long i was gonna list either very You know self check moment say okay. Well let's do as much as possible. You're not gonna to were driving packages for ups you get life going. What start this game up. Now which. I think people assume to start life in their forties. My i that was gone now as far as its rations by dad is the greatest leader i've ever met. And he went from you know not having a great up pre but working his ass off in the court all the stuff that you of see in the marines. Today he helped facilitate he would never gave himself that credit. But you'd like the forrest gump of the marine corps. If you ever see someone that's on fox news or whatever that said marie especially for two thousand one to two thousand twenty. They worked for my dad at some point. Any just tell me again. That guy's national. That guys like a mattis worked for my dad and my dad's just a cool guy now. My mom is the opposite of my dad and was very organized. Very i narrowed wonder if i was going to have a dentist like very everything was according to plan and so he was this gregarious leader and she was very put together not not life of the party person and their traits and seek to do that. That's just in my dna as far as professionally guy named tony. German yanni out in san francisco has been a mentor to me. Throughout the last fifteen years he's easily the mic to say a michael jordan. A pizza would be almost underselling it. Because he's the would you say who's degraded koby her jordan. Who's the greatest usually would you say who's the greatest. There's three things that a person who's related won the babe ruth fact like the first to do it yet. Then who's the greatest. The the barry bonds effect who's has the biggest numbers people would say. No berry he's he's way better than people on obey bruce better because he came so you're talking numbers or first and then the third is all i'm dennis eckersley fan because he's a i just love his. You saw do it when you were a kid or something. So those are the three that defined the greatest ed. He is the greatest pizza and that he was the first to do. Almost everything that you see out there pizza game. I have multiple styles. One restaurant i to win all these awards has the most awards many one of the game. And then i've eaten at his restaurant like this is really good so at he being my mentor. This whole time and say don't do that with this way and working together and working so much intertwined on this industry has made us better. How did you develop that mentor ship. It was i think he. He helps out a lot of places. But i called him when i twenty two and he talked for an hour and i had called a lot of other places and i saw him on food network and other places that blow me off and he's talking to be our you know me then. I met him and he was doing a pizza. School at with bringing people from italy teaches school so he could one day due to school he had done himself in italy a college level course pizza and he just saw stoked i was to to work hard asked me to be on his pizza team. That competed internationally than he. Just wasn't bullshit. I work hard. I was one fledgling little store. He was one store at the time out. He's gone on to have a massive amount restores. Ed i bid right there. I'm like five to ten years behind him in career this whole time. It's an unlike that worked. I'm gonna do it my way of his. I once said to him. I wanna do a all beer bar just every style of beer just abaza beer bar and then he assured me about these one bottles. By the time i use all the cocktails. Don't do that. Like probably probably million dollar tip. I just got there. Yeah exactly You you mentioned that every day you you take your son to school I two new data a three year old son. He's turning for the summer. My daughter's going to be turning by mortars too so. It's i know that everything changes you know people your best friends all the people you know they tell you everything changes when you become a father. What did it mean for you to become a dad. It's not like i had to grow up in the sides. Because i already was very organized but it just meant the I get dealt with the night and let's go have some beers. It's like i it. Just change your focus. That i don't really care. I don't really want to do that. I wanna focus on him and being. I want to be good at this to came a really awkward time because we are opening up simultaneously like seven things. The kind of just were predicated upon the other. We have this to be able to do this to do that. Some were small. Where large that i just want that to. I wanted to take the time. wanted to be good this. I've always been. I've been waiting to be a dad for so long that i'm happy. I wanted to kill it. My dad has a good dad at. He wasn't effort by other three siblings. Fifteen years older than me because he was in vietnam us on in germany and russia. Add that he took the time to be my dad. And i was like his second chance and i don't think i'm getting a second chance in fifty or whatever i wanna have a child so i want this is my son. This is what focus is. And and i love. I love being a dad. So that's where i'm with today. Yeah there's Definitely nothing greater. There's no greater job in the world and it's it's It's the most challenging in the most rewarding job at the same time. Whatever you learn today or yesterday is going to change the next day As they grow up so fast Tell me a little bit more about your book. So book is called on sliced hottest a hole in the petri industry. Add it is i. i wrote it with If you heard of tucker backs he has a book school will add. He wrote a i. They serve beard. Hell he very. He writes in a very approachable way. But this is a place where a lot of people who have great ios vision. What but like David goggin book was written through this process and he's obviously a lot of people super respected rightfully so so. I put myself into a book of by manager school. I took that that. I was trading my managers on formulated. It made it like three chapters and then there is a chapter on how to decide whether or not the restaurant industry is for you and if you bought off on that how to get customers to care about you how to get staff to want to work for you. Then how to figure it out in a way that they are maximize egidi to their best point and then how to get benders and all the people that are not on your payroll to maximize those relationships to create better operations which lead to better return a value in our while obviously and then being an owner in this industry to to make that maslow's hierarchy of needs not just getting by two day to day but also a maximizing my life with this position and that's what it's a very culminating book. I wrote it. And then i said yeah. I'd like to have an audio book. And they were like well you do. You have someone's voice you know. I'll do it. You'll you gotta fly to la. I'll get my radio guys that i do stuff with here. We'll record it in and the okay cool you do that. So that's a lot of us and so the audio book are you get to see the essence of i've gotten. It was named by entrepreneur magazine as the one of the best business books. You need to read twenty twenty one Which i'm very proud of. And i think if you if you're listening to podcasts. I think you'll do if you don't dig it. You just write me an email. Go to slice book dot com and say this is garbage. Pay me back. I'll send you money that this is a garbage book not your time. I'll happily pay you back. But very there's taizhou. I'll make a pizza. I think this segment will like this. But i don't know about these guys are. This is a pretty all around good or this is an all around great. Everyone will love this pizza. And i think this book is that i appreciate that anybody that listens this. Podcast knows that we have guests that ranged from different industries all different backgrounds people that are influencers business owner small business owners. Big business owners tech entrepreneurs There's a reason why we have them on. And that's because the themes they run similar but they're all unique and we believe that people that are coming on You can learn from them. Because i know that i'm learning So even if you're not in the pizza business. I think you should definitely check out the book i know i'm going to buy a copy I love reading one of my passions that was gifted by my grandfather but reading. I mean it's it's the easiest way to distill the amount of information it's a way to hack your brain. I mean you you put all the damn working and then now you've given us a gift. That's only two hundred and fifty pages or or i can listen to it so we appreciate that that gift that you give and one thing i do want to ask you about content creation and why somebody that's doing as much as you're doing. Why were you compelled to start writing for pizza today. The i get. I can't be in the back seat. Wanna be driving fucking dry. And i would go to pizza today. I go pizza expo. I like this is i see. Some speeches does a lot of great information but maybe it was delivered with a bit bigger palatable way like okay so we're gonna talk about your profit loss statement. If you have a problem los david. You're gonna wanna add a lot better line. I was like god. Damn it. And i was like i can make this thing. I'm not like trying to be a show. But if i'm going to do so they're gonna make it not sock like make it not suck. Yes i do that in a way that. I think it'd be fun that someone was here. They get to leave for like his. I learned so much going to that and see articles. They're really articles. Like why ice had a tip on something that i would help someone i told. The editor is like a semi right up. And i didn't end. He's like y'all give you like eight. Tips just didn't small little blurbs than the month would buys like this do that every month. I guess it's not like the money or anything. I just i write it and i get emails from across the world like oh man that helped me so much. What did you do do this. I'm like i'm helping someone in. I got an email this morning from hungary. Amazing i was like. That's just cool shit in life. The if i it's not going to. That's locker trades late into money and that got me thinking about the book. I'm writing in my writing skill. I graduated college with a policy major. I could write up a paper. But i consider myself a professional writer and then i really doubled down a well. What could i do to be better at writing. Developed a whole process which is very unique to each person. And i noticed. It's a lot like developing a comedic voice on stage is developing writer's voice. I just said this is cool and now with the parlaying it into something we. We had this really unique situation right. Were so the. I'm in my office next to a concert. I'm above my fine dining restaurant which is next door to my my pizza restaurant which is across the street from our lotteria so we have quit service full service restaurant advice dining all right here with a conference where or like we could have people come here or they say. Hey i wanna have my abaya restaurant. I only know what i'm doing but my nephew's gonna run it don't do that. Let's set your heart set on it said your dumb ass nephew to me and i'll show them how to do. Whether it's full-service find dining quick serve had to open a day or close on a pizza on a ps. Yata handle someone that's leads how to get your your pnl setup how to do a recipe card and how to have it all integrate on a very small level as well a highly operational level charge for that at that instead of going out to kalamazoo doing some consulting which doesn't interest me at all. You come here will take time out of our week. Show you how to do it. And then that's another prophet stream that i would benefit people like what if i could give myself that fifteen years ago we would save three years of aapgeneva yet. And that's Something that we'd like to do at this next year. that's incredible. What what what are you looking for this year right now. Given its february end of february twenty twenty. One what's What do you have on the slate i are. My first trip is slated to be at pizza expo. The keynote speaker pedes expo in june in las vegas. Las vegas is rolling back restrictions slowly. I got vaccinated last week. Type one diabetic. So i'm looted the free world. Doorknobs whatever i need to do and I am looking forward. I e the to whatever the next step is my guess again. Stupid guesses advance. Is that private parties. Big socially acceptable to france and not being a pariah of the neighborhood were probably april. May on that. Like a dead. So for july will be big. I think concert venues will be hey accurate. You're on risk. Come september at least admit. America l. Yorker go for it just yet. I could see some parts and they're gonna see doing well here. Numbers are going down to. There's no variance than i think. We're gonna i really. The x factor. Question is what is my bartender going to safely be allowed to not wear a mask and it's also let's say it's completely safe or safe was like could be that a customer is not going to feel offended for the nut wearing that mask. How long are we far. We from that. I don't have that answer. Yeah that's a great question is one of the things that we did right when the restrictions came down in In march seventeenth in california was we went to our bar and we put barstools six feet away from each other and man that looks like a shitty shitty bar you when you put when you put a barstool six feet away from another barstool. It's certainly not the neighborhood bar not the vibe that we were trying to create when we opened up the business so we're looking forward to stack and people in again on fight night. Getting people packed in on an nfl. Sunday of course. I i we. The whole first week of kobe is the the introduction to my book and it's not about art pain of covert. It's okay this sucks. Change it a system. That would work. That would did it. Change system do this. What are we gonna do here. Okay reverse curbside people this way. Facebook post social media type for videos. We're gonna do this this this this changes that we made payroll you know and how. How did that happen. This is the industry that you're signed up for at because i had these systems took fifty years decree but about to show you that week was a profitable week. And and how the hell do you do that. That's what i get it to a lot with the book and then we built barriers by april. We opened back up for diana which allowed to do in april. We had full-blown not little barriers but full blown shoe goals at every table because the thought of going down to twenty five percent. I was like i can't cubicle. Each table by servers could make their money and i really bought. That was going to be the thing of the whole industry and it kinda did it happen just like a little bit of plexiglass not like six foot tall plex core to get this across. I look forward to taking those down one day in a safe hospitable way to the last thing i'm gonna ask you about is branding somebody that we started. Our businesses california comfort restaurant and sports bar and we went to kelly comfort and then we went to kelly comfort barbecue when it became a barbecue concept. And now we're kelly barbecue Were were we understand that you have to evolve as a brand. Tell us why. It's at endo's pizza on instagram. And all the other social reforms well air dough pizza because eh deletes pizzeria people would spell wrong. You don't really need to spell it anymore but back in the day if you you'd have to spell it right. So i'd like and the loads and the reenies and it's a. It's a eddo pizza kip. Screw that up a pizza at originally and was eglise pizzeria. Add italian restaurant and it was like i think we almost at the our first on our tax words abeline. These new york pizzeria a tallied restaurant. You're like hey dhabi's this is a brand perspective. We did it in this font and under it we had a flag. This is this just shows you all the fuck ups that we we had a flag that was green white and red and we had it like this like ribbon it done asses. We did it wrong and it was actually the mexican flag identity. Here's why didn't even fucking matter though because when we send to our science guy we sent it in. Rgb instead of cmyk so they get the art file and it's just a rainbow so our our original side was this an array rabo ribbon under it no way that we just saw. It wasn't like obama. Have a photo of that. I do not rabo sense of like classic like rainbow bright rainbow. Orange kind of red kind of this. And it's just sucker like. I don't have the money to do that. Lived with it for like four years and then we changed our whole logo to like this guy on my arm and now i do cool shit like you. I saw your leected sports entertainment fan right. So yes i realized i love that. He's the club by club So the bullet club do shit. Now that i like. And i'm like come on come on for the ride with annelies pizzeria. shit will you have to send me a photo of that execution flag pizza. The mexican pizza came a rainbow. The rainbow stover our producer. We'll put a link to that in the show notes. I it needs to go on jerry digital proof dour or i'll find somebody in tulsa scrubbed because it's that sounds like a topic of pizza expo. Come on know to your point. I probably will put that up there on the slides and the journey but to think about how what. How old are you. I'm turning forty next next year by thirty nights or we have the same age kids a lot in common user. Twenty photos of you as a child. Pretty yes my. My children have twenty photos a day of every day. That goes live videos. Whatever we did a two thousand five was not highly documented. Correct correct all ask changed. Oh shit mike. It's been truly a pleasure man. I can't appreciate you for taking the time you for your leadership your compassionate transparency. For doing what you're doing for not just the pizza business but the entrepreneurial business it's really shipman you're leading by example and Can't tell you how much we appreciate your time. We're gonna like. I said put links in the show notes stuff we talked about. Were definitely put a fucking of that Execute pizza flag and rainbow flag but nonetheless. Thank you guys for listening We're grateful please. Interact with mike. Follow him on social and go to the pizza. Expo listened to him and get his book on sliced. I'm going to get it. And i'm gonna give you some feedback. But it'll be positive feedback. I'll talk shit. I should say tell me i know. I have no problem with constructive criticism. That's for sure. But mike thank you for the time and i would wreak.
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"The following program is brought to you by podcast one sports net. Don't forget to download our new podcast one out. Hey, you with the rhinestone dot collar between us dogs. I just convinced my human of grade to a new home with the twelve hundred square foot bathroom. I think she called it a yard with Wells Fargo's three percent down payment on a fixed rate loan. My Uman realized new home was within reach learn more at wellsfargo dot com slash wolf. Wells Fargo home mortgage down payments as low as three percent on a fixed rate loan require mortgage insurance has home mortgage consultant about loan requirements. Wells Fargo home mortgage division of Wells Fargo Bank NA equal housing lender. MLS our I d three nine hundred one. He is currently the head football coach of the university of Michigan wolverines and a former player his dad and brother are also former players and coaches, but there's more to them than just football. It's time to talk about attacking life each day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. This is attack each day the Harbaugh's podcast with Jim Harbaugh. Hello everybody and welcome to another edition of attack. Each day. The Harbaugh's podcast IRA watch up here long with the real host, the podcast coaches, Jim and Jack Harbaugh director for recruiting met Dudek. Assira producer McKinsey is here as well. We're to catch up on some Michigan football news notes and a moment later on lucky sports parents our series continues with Chris hidden senior, he's dead of Kristen junior and that looking forward to that fun conversation, then Jack talk we're gonna talk about one of the all time greats at university of Michigan and also a national heroes. We'll get to that coming up on Jack talk reminder subscribe to us on apple podcast. You can listen to the podcast one app or on podcast one dot com. And please follow us and contact us on Twitter at AD podcast or using hashtag, Jack talk. And speaking of tweets that we get at the podcast. We got a tweet from back a couple of weeks ago from the agent seven eleven he said, my father was my best friend as well. We would talk on the phone the whole time while the game was on didn't matter the sport. Michigan was our life. How I miss my dad. So that's one of the things we talk about here. And I mean, you guys talk. I I have my memories and things about my dad as well. And yeah, I bet you a lot of listeners kind of go back and think about father son moments and watching sports in this case with met the agent seven eleven tweeting in from a couple of weeks ago. And then Stewart Walter tweeted in a few days ago, he said where has ADD podcast been my whole life as if I needed any reason to love Michigan football coach Jim Harbaugh anymore. Hashtag attack each day. Hashtag hill hashtag, go blue. And we'll we're here every single week. So stewart. Just a point to that. We started this thing over a year ago Jim came, and and he had the idea and he talked about it. And we know we went to one thing the two things then he got to the three things. And the thing he thought that really warmed my heart. I mean, that's an serially as he said all those things that we had talked about this is a chance to get this on record this. And not not so much for anything other than no ten years down the road. Fifteen years down the road to be able to show it to the grandchildren that a little bit older. And this is what this is what what it was like, and these are the stories that we talked about in growing up, and then the grandchildren. You know, we got a great grandchild. Now, it's going to be able to share that. So for me, as you mentioned that response on our podcast is something jumped into my mind that that really really makes this exciting and worthwhile for me personally. I'm gonna guess that listeners like if you watch field of dreams you can't help. But think about Dadge, right? You need to plan having catch with your dad. You listen to the stories of you guys them the way, you interact and the stores, you tell that our stories are all different. But it was like Ken Griffey junior talking about his dad with driving up to watch the grandkids play. But sitting in the car and watch it and not going. Everyone's got their memories of father, son, parents and kids not always just fathers and sons, and and I'm pretty sure that people sit in. Relate to their own stories. We're no question is dad is my dad said that's that was my motivation at the beginning. I. I so many stories about Bill hardball. And when I was a grandchild. And and and I got I know I knew Bill Harb all the way through I was through college. And but also for my great grand kids know about their Greg. It's only stories it can only be stories. But now, you know for for my kids and for their kids to to hear hear Jack talking to hear all these tremendous stories about about football about life about all the tremendous advice that he gives one of my own kids and grandkids to be able to have access to that. And the other thing that was was how lucky I am. Because my dad, I get I get these this advice. I call them like nuggets that just come out. You know, like they come out of his pockets, you know, and I just kind of scoop them up as he's as he's going by and wanted other other coaches and people and to be able to have access to to some of those. Nuggets golden heaven heaven recorded, you know, because you know, there's there's times when we'll be talking. And and he what did you say? Remember what you said yesterday? And he goes, I remember. Well, let me try to refresh your memory, you know, we're talking about you know, this or that or how you did it. You know, when you were when you're coaching at western Kentucky or western Michigan or back at Michigan. And we we we struggled or kind of remember sometimes, and we we get it until we get it, you know, but. To have that have that on on on the computer or have it on tape for years to come? I think is a real blessing. The one thing for me. And I certainly I'm not at all. But I get to sit in here and listen to these and my dad passed away about ten years ago and to see coach looking at his dad with a smile on his face and hearing these stories it's like when I go back home, and my aunts, and my dad's friends, tell me stories about my dad and getting to hear those I experience it every day through them. And then truthfully I mean, I can't tell you how many things I've ruined down from Jack the row row row your boat question. The jacks top ten. I mean, these are things that I'm talking to my children about so I'm like listener that gets lucky enough to sit here every day. Well, I was asked I'm doing a thing for concordia university this week, and they said is there a quote that like a mantra, quote, I'm like attack each day with an enthusiasm to mankind. Be better today than we were better tomorrow. Martha like, they aren't there for everybody. Right. And they really work, and if my kid's attack it, absolutely. Trust me. I'm saving these notes for as grace gets older. What got a piece of advice? If I may this is gym talking when I first thought of this idea before was a podcast idea. I thought of it as I'm getting a video camera, and I'm just going to interview my dad, you know, I'm going to have a hundred questions that I want to ask him. I want to tell retail these specific stories for the sole purpose of myself, my own kids, and and the grandkids, and then it evolved into I met norm patents who's the presidency. Oh, podcast one. And he was telling me about podcasts. And that's that's when it clicked over for me to go from interview. My dad on videotape to do in the podcast just like that. But I would recommend it everybody. You know, if if they're dead mom's still alive don't waste any time. Interview interview on videotape and. And has has specific questions and things you want to want him to retail. That's that's a couple thoughts. That's actually great advice because it's a way. I mean, your family history lives on the books that are in your dad's basement the Harbaugh books that you can flip through from way back. And obviously this is like that next extension. The modern technology version of the old books, but it's a way to continue your family's legacy. I think you're right. If other people you can go buy a little record if you want to do audio you can do it in your phone. There's a lot of ways to save it. That's actually great advice for a lot of parents and grandparents for their kids their grandkids and down the road. Great grandkids that Saturday keep the way to have the source. You don't forget did. I say that yesterday or not you just you have it on tape like when you get older too like grandpa, Joe remember grandpa, Joe would tell his story. And then about fifteen minutes later he'd tell the same. And you, but the thing was you would look at grandpa Joe like he was telling us the first time, you certainly didn't want to tell them what you just heard her. Some sure we get some of that on this show. I feel most positive it gets ingrained though. I mean, I regret a Joe talking about Joseph PD my mom's dad was a phenomenal storyteller. And he could he could paint a picture as well as anybody could take you're right there, you know, to the depression right through right into the depression and coming over on the boat from Italy when he was when he was four years old one of his uncles picked him up and held him over the vote. He's still he's like four or five years old. Could you imagine life with that with that? But think about I mean those and I can retail them. I can retail those stories, and I know John cannon. Oh, Joni can put to have it have it actually him telling. So some gets lost in the translation. But to actually hear hear you speaking. And have it have it recorded now for for many years to come as somebody will listen to it. Right. I mean, that's that's that's unbelievable. That's all time, Jack that's for all time. He will be listening stores for many many many years to come a couple of Michigan football notes to catch up on first one. You guys added all Almac defensive end. Mike, Dan is a grad transfer from CMU day bolster your defensive front. You're really excited about it. You at about nine and a half sacks last year. It's a really really talented hard working hard playing individual and super excited that he's going to be coming to Michigan right here from de LA Salle, high school home of true Wilson, and and few of our few of our other players, but. Excited about him. And I read a stat to pro football, focus. He was the first team pro football, focus. Yeah. Verse team pro football focus, so decided not to go out in the draft. And and do his graduate transfer year here in Michigan so super super excited him about him. And oh, by the way, we lost a couple of starting defensive ends this year to the NFL draft. And that'll be be great to have Michael on the team is better sleep better at night tonight. Is he an end outside rusher on on the defensive front and type player. Yup. Good pass rusher. So you just overall thoughts roster hundred fifty pounds about six foot three two hundred fifty pounds your thoughts. Just in general is a coach on the transfer. Puerto the thing chant transfers the same. But they made it easier for students to let people know that they want to transfer that kind of thing do you have thoughts in general about the portal itself. And how the league instituted the transfer process. No. How could that a real thoughts on all right? If I could add one. Jack. The only reservation I have about it reacts the question. So he can he can talk about. Oh, can I talk about it? Yeah. You can talk about go ahead. Let's have IRS. I'll repeat the question again. So transfers they ended up blaze made it easier maybe for the student athletes because they can go into the transfer portal any thoughts on the on the process only reservation. I have is how easy it is. Just what I imagined. Have you been a coach you get it practice one day and a youngster was having a bad practice, and you might correct him. And you might get a little little bit too loud. He goes back to his room. And all he knows is he hits a three. Signs, aim signs his name. This puts it calls in a name and signs his name. And he's on the portal for every school in the United States of America to know that he wants to transfer and the calls. I mean, it's I think it's too easy. I can't imagine anyone that's ever played football. Certainly not me that at some point dime. Didn't think hey, I'm no longer. Appreciate it here. I I need to transfer. But I didn't know. The process wasn't so easy that it became a reality. Well, that's the reminds at the store. Anthony Carter was here. They had to go to the airport the bring it back to campus because he wanted and he don't make it so easy to have that quick moment of you want to you want to get comfortable for you have that first initial thought a couple of thoughts. I would have to add is the same is is my dad's saying that every college student, I would say, including athlete at some point you hit a wall, and you got to break through that wall. And then once that happens, it's amazing how guys take off and and skyrockets so. I would also say that it needs to be decided to -mongst everybody across the college landscape is is how it's going to be treated. I mean, it was it was a case where if if you decided to transfer that you had to sit out a year. I mean from playing playing a sport your urine eligible, or is it that everybody has a one time transfer that that they can make a one time transfer rule right now where I don't know where we're at we're somewhere somewhere in the this or somewhere board, the one time exception like 'cause I don't think that if you get here's a freshman, and you you said, and maybe even go through the twenty one days that we've talked about here in the podcast to get to the first twenty one days or you're talking about break do that wal. Maybe you have to have a certain amount of time that you are at your initial school before you get the free pass to transfer not have to sit out just to actually. If you made the right or wrong decision. You went on know that in two months or three months. It may take a full year of being in class and being Titian something to really cold you to where you work because there was a reason why you made that initial commitment to go to that school. Yeah. I would. I mean, we've had that experience here. Right. Draymond hall was young man who came in as a mid year and within a couple of weeks. You know, he he wanted to he asked to to be able to transfer and the thing I counseled them on was one. I mean, if you transfer right now, you're gonna violate this rule, which I believe it at that time, it you might have to sit out for two years it in big Tanya, plus you'd be you'd be leaving without passing a semester's worth of classes. And my advice to Duran was he let's right now you and me we'll sit down we'll circle this date on the counter one year from now. And you know, give it your give it your absolute best. Best pass classes, get get the get the education work hard as a as a football player to improve as much as you can. And and a year from now, if you feel the same way, yes, I will you know, will will grant you that permission to to speak to other schools, and and ended up that he did everything right from that point on Jarama gave it his very best. He he he did well in school. He he he worked hard as a as a football players freshman, year, etc. And then a year later said he he wanted to transfer and we gave permission and dreaming ended up transferring to to central Michigan. And so you might be onto something there IRA, but the two dads point. I mean, there's some some real mistakes can be made. If you just, you know, having a bad day one day, or you know, you perceive, you're having a bad day. And then the next minute, you know, you're tossing away sixty five thousand dollar a year scholarship, but that that may not be the best thing to be doing without without knowing. What what kind of response there's going to be out there. I mean, and what you're telling this school that you you don't want to be a part of the program anymore, and you're kind of throwing out to what might be out there. I mean, it's a lot of things that could happen in that process. I think the the portal itself has been sensationalized a lot by the by the media. It's really in my experience and seeing all these way in seeing all these releases and things through the years. It's just about the same number of releases that you would have got to begin with except now they sit in one place instead of coming one at a time via Email to the director of recruiting you're director of ops or the head coaches or compliance. They're coming. They're all in one place. So there really isn't in my opinion, much difference to what it's always been other than. I can click a button. Okay. See that. He's there, and we can communicate with them. You don't hear via Twitter this that or other have your compliance contact their compliance to get the it's made the process easier for us on our side? But it it's not really that much different. It's. I kinda disagree a little bit. It's it is different. I mean is different that. That there's there's more guys that are transferring and. You know, because I've I've, you know, we experienced that this year and talking to guys I mean, there's as a parent. You know, there's not even a good reason. You know, I mean, did you wait where you're shaving this morning? And you, you know, in in in your woke up and decided that I wanna I wanna transfer him. That's my son or daughter. You know, I mean Gracie comes to Michigan next year. And then I mean, this is going to be it's not gonna be you're shaving your legs one day. And then and then I want I want to transfer. There's let's talk about this. And let's unless there is an issue. Let's try to get that that correct that fix because you know, the grass isn't always greener on the other side of the road. I remember hearing that that cliche cliche for a reason. And it could be even you got to have a girlfriend. She calls you up, and she's found another guy, and she's not interested in you anymore. Can't be there anymore. I can't go to school anymore. I'll hit the button and transfer. Well, I remember store used to tell. All the time when I was growing up, and I can't remember the name right now. But I mean, the best athletes that ever come out of Chris line Ohio headache scholarship to play at the state university. Was it Ohio State Larry Cima Macher? He would have been in the class with Mel know he'd been in a class with Jerry Lucas heated classmate. John havlicek. He was recruited in that class had a girl friend down there about six weeks or so and decided that he was gonna come back home and didn't transfer. You just you just came back home a farm is that two one. We're that's that's what I remember. I remember it was like, the it was it was a story that always stuck in my mind. He never gave it a chance. I mean, he could. And he was good. Now, we talk about the great athletes. It came out of night, which I'm not a member of that group. But I'm gonna tell you Larry Cima Macher, maybe as fine athletes. It's ever come out across night. Football basketball didn't play football. But every thirty three points a game and basketball player, and he would have been a great team at Ohio. State if he had stuck it out. Those teams were really really good. So come on the football things real quick. I saw you sent your recon advanced trip down to South Africa to scout out the site for the spring trip. I saw a couple of pictures on Twitter trip. Looks amazing Doug innocuous marketers Sammy, and Scott Goldschmidt. If the they went and advanced the trip and they came back. They were they were raving about this. They say this is going to be the best trip that the team has ever taken while by far, and that's saying something. Yeah, they eneg get the pictures back. I mean a couple of pictures to me there were standing a little too close to right now. Elephants. I myself and the rest of the the teens, especially the players. I hope not to get that close. Look like it was from fifty yards every year less than some of those closed. Some of those pictures pretty pretty amazing the scenery and the Cape Town. I mean just magnificent back to that. Again. Are they in the confines of where? Jeep open air Jeep really took the picture. It didn't look like they were in. They were they were in like a like a Jeep type thing that we're their cages where their bar. He didn't mention any cages or bars. And I didn't see any cases or bars in the picture. I hope it's fast. If it's open air up. It's fast for your team hopes their cages plexiglass. Yeah. Round the player. I asked about it was like, but I really also want to be surprised to I want to. I don't wanna know every you know, in the past I've done that with the ten rays done every single item in detail and by the hour, by the minute and this last year, and this year, I said, okay, you guys are really good at this. You handle it. I want to go and be be surprised looks like a great ship. You guys don't have a ton of fun that of course is after spring ball. We'll get we'll talk more about that. As it leads into the into the trip. And then the last thing we haven't talked a whole lot about it on follow up here in the podcast pope mandate. We have a lot of suggestions on where to put a Tom Brady statue a lot of suggests. People were talking about Super Bowl MVP's Heisman Trophy winners. I'm kind of thing in creating maybe like, I guess kind of like the do at Miami. But like a like a hall at the stadium and some of the stadium but president a president. I think president with highs. We also have suggestion to put a statue of them right there at Mr. spots. So I don't know if that would necessarily work the stadiums. Probably a better idea, we could probably even get Jonas Salk. Yes. You pull you could go to the scientific level of James Earl Jones, James Earl Jones would be fantastic. If you have is your city of Sheikh. Yeah. Cured polio. Simos? Well, similar today. We create a Photoshop here. How about the I think that's the best idea? I think it's the best idea. I agree with many of the people that have that have written in some something at the stadium at the house. Was it was it more top of the tunnel or near the corner by pioneer? I think the corner by pioneers, the one that's been the most popular it's something, and it can really the other corner. That's that connects Chrysler and the stadium as well. Because that's that's open as well. Like during basketball game. So people can walk in and take pictures with it. What do you think data around the stadium? I think right there and that little plaza in front of the tunnel on the side of the stadium where the where the team comes before the game. And you have all these different. They have to walk through that great through those. That'd be cool. Another place that's open for a place where fans can get to you know, what it's not a game didn't necessarily because fans can photo off how many times eight even see people at the north side with the big in behind him taking pictures, many times we go outside of our building. And if be were taking with. Salve out. Just throw this out there about when we went to Rome, we practiced at a stadium statue or statues around the stadium like on the concourse on the top left right on the edge. The okay that was at the top. But I was thinking more like round around it where you could stop take a photo have a plaque where you could read it. And I'm not sure you need a statue. If you had a nice head bust. And then a on a platform, you know, talking about their accomplishments. So you could do like Yankee Stadium has the plots and the outfielder I know in Baltimore memorials, Camden Yards well through the old stadium out there and then yards. They have out in like feud or something on Utah street where the famous street out there. They have all their hall of famers have have. So there's definitely statue statues fat you like I think Palmer's is like in the motion with the hand out and the whole deal. I haven't been there in awhile. But there are we've had some pretty good ideas. And I think that those are all all pretty good boss. I'm going to go right by the tunnel. Where Jackson I I think that's where the recruits go on game day. But I think that also when it's not we have to think outside of seven or eight Saturdays at the season, right? If they're inside the stadium. You can't take photos the rest of the year. Right, but outside the tunnel. Then they're always there the maize rage when they land up for basketball games was intermingled with them. And so I think the fans would have more opportunities with the statues if they're outside the tunnel. They may not be able to get to on game day because obviously they block it off for for the for teams and whatnot. But that's only seven or eight days a year every other day, you could drive in the parking lot slide your car, right? There has some really cool photo ops freight bureau by the tunnel, right. Yeah. I think we've got a leader in the clubhouse for the where they should go love that. Absolutely. So great stuff there on the on the Tom Brady statue that was that was last week that was a couple of weeks ago weeks ago. You kind of dropped that bomb. Got another bomb drop today. Okay. Maybe sparked some discussion this idea comes from Sarah Harbaugh. My wife and comes from. Mike daughter Addie who is ten years old. They have suggested a song to be played at Michigan football games. And while the song is being played. Then the the camera would search out people in the crowd. You know, they have their face painted and are dressed in in the in the maze. And especially the blue blue blue blue. So about McKenzie can pull up the song, and we could just suggest playing the song. And then get your feedback here on on the attack each day podcast. And maybe get some of our listeners to weigh in as well, the song is I am blue. Oh from the nine hundred ninety nine two thousand air blue a little bit do. I don't know other words, but I do know this all nice little rhythm. Yeah. It's very upbeat. Everything. Side and outside house. For everything. Around. That out about. Now, we get about thirty seconds of fair youth for copyright issues. Like. But yeah, you got people dancing. Absolutely. Hey, if you get an idea there. We'll do about us. I mean, we're blue or blue jersey were blue helmets. Blue Sox blue t shirts work, blue blue, absolutely cart. Weissenbach you're on. Martin guy. Wants are games. We do here net at third fourth quarter here when they do those things where people can can kind of dance Cam in those. When the lights and all that knows different things. We do you get tremendous fan activity, and we're talking about one hundred eleven thousand fan inactivity. So it's quite a quite a thing is a lot. Due to get him other programs have had like their signature song right round. It was consul jump around. We do Mr. bright side. The kid students seeing Mr. bright side plays the blues song and dance to third and fourth quarter started hockey, but neither those have really a whole lot of. That's not like it's the blue Cam. Boom. Correct. Play that out there. So we can with the blue song or do you think? I I like it. That's a good idea. I already told it was good. It's in book. I'll get cart today today. Those that are involved with the Harbaugh podcast have a chance to weigh in on that I will say this moves a little quicker than getting statues done, but you can. Takes a little longer to to find a statue maker and the whole process, but this place on I'm AD podcast. What do you think at AD podcast who who's who's a singer full sixty five full still around or I think it's a DJ Michigan grant money chain. I'm willing to bet. He was not. Sound michigan? Maybe let's see let's get through Michigan. This was their only saw they had. So wonder is true. One hit wonder had move your body. Also, very euro pop from from Italy. Doesn't look like. They were nominated for a Grammy for that best dance recording blue that was so there you go. So yeah, it doesn't look like there's a Michigan tied of that. But AS Roma's stadium, and then it'd be a tyrant. They're all Michigan game on TV take Jackie Sepedi, Harbaugh Italian half, Italian go be a connection we can connect with that. Can't we that means you're a quarter of Tien? So you're good to go. I just think it's a real toe tapper and got some good good lyrics and lot of bloop. What do you think? House Blue House. We've got a blue out bigger house. Changed the whole name of the stadium and the big Blue House next lucky sports parents with Kristin here on each day, the Harbaugh's podcast every car comes at sheriff stories that ding your bumper. When you nervously picked up a first date the luxury package, you got after a big promotion or the mild you saved by riding your bike all summer while you can't put a price tag on your stories now with truecar you can at least find out what your car's worth when it's time to sell or trade it in just go to truecar simply enter your license plate number and watch your car. Details pop up then an sure if you questions navigation immune roof, watches, they bump of your value. High mileage you already knew is going to cost you. But now, you can know how much it you out. 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So are lucky sports parents series continue Chris hidden, the of course, Kristen senior the father of Kristen junior. Who will be is a five star defense alignment coming in from Atlanta to play for the Michigan wolverines, Chris welcome to the podcast. Good. Connect this is Jack har- by just you a gym share a common thread in in your football playing careers. Maybe Jim, and you would like to comment on that you talking about ring of honor. Yes. Awesome. I would love to go. Is a huge honor to be in the ring of honor for the Indianapolis Colts. Also. With the great Chris Hinton that is a mazing thing. And every time I go into that building. I I look up there. I I see see my name up there. Your name. I. No, no mine is four. Before I'm saying bye. Sure Christmas is go to go to his name. He was in before. I was not alphabetical is there. I didn't know there's pecking order to the how they're how they're lined up. There. Didn't know that mine is before years. Okay. I'm not gonna argue that I didn't know that. I think it's by over in Baltimore like Chris came from Baltimore to win from Baltimore to India. They were the first ones that were putting the honor. So you guys are probably I I'm assuming that's why you're up there. First, Chris, no, there's more. That story. We'll go. Right. Chris start in Baltimore. I thought you started your as as as a Baltimore. Yeah. I play one year in Baltimore. And. Actually, wasn't wasn't even full year as far as calendar year as far as being there. We got there in August. I mean, July can't and we're moving in April the next year, you guys know players head of time that that move was going to happen. No. We did not know. I mean, we we had no privileged any any first-hand information. What was it like to find out a in April that you have to move your family, and you weren't even being traded? It was. I mean, the twenty two twenty three year old kid at that time. It didn't look that. Or man, you know, I was playing professional football player with the Baltimore than in Annapolis cold played with the Atlanta Falcons also played in Minnesota and a really circular part of your career because you started in college northwestern for then is green. And then you went to finish your career with the Minnesota Vikings for Dennis Green. That would have been fun to go back to your college. Coach again, actually, it was it was. Going full circle. And and then as green who since passed away, but he played a big role in my career as far as over neat. All. Convinced me that I had a future an offense tackle. And and moving me there my senior year in college so north western so, yeah, it was it was pretty cool. Dennis Green this Jack again, Dennis Green. And I had a cross paths back in the early. Seventies. Went to university of Iowa as the defensive backs coach coach Richie Solomon at that time. And Dennis was on the it was a graduate assistant. He had played Lou in Canada. And then he came to Iowa's a graduate assistant football coach early in his coaching career. So two names that I'm very familiar with. Thing that stands out. And I remember about him was that I think he would have been better general manager. I mean, I thought he was really good coats. But as far as evaluating talent. And I think he would have been a great general manager. I mean just delegating. I mean, just I just think about the staff we had and then a soda when we hit Brian Billick is our offense coordinator. So he Dungy with defensive coordinator Monte kiffin was linebackers code. I mean, just went on and on guys who became you know, coaches and Super Bowl champion. Wanna tell the story of doing the home visit this past December and Christmas, an incredible meal of Pya and. Defeating a lot some big big young men is sons I mean well over three hundred pounds both of his sons, and but after the meals over and credible meal top five I mean, I would have to say top five of in my my experiences. It's pretty good college coach making home visit. But Chris pulled me aside, and he puts his arm around my shoulder. Never forget it right off the living room there the way from the dinner table and Jim via you like curly. And I do I like curly. I love curly. With the Olympics are on. I I'd love curling. I watch any sport in the in the Olympics curling is my favorite favorite sport. I'm going on. Jim the reason I the reason I ask you if you know curling goes, this is about to take place is think of curling use it as a knowledge -i Maya myself, as parents are we are giving we are giving the momentum's of the curling rock rock, and we are we are tossing it down the lane. And then you as a coach I want you on the other end with the broom, I want you to sweep in manipulate bring him right into the into the center into the bulls idea understand that I'd go crystal. The fact that is the maybe the greatest analogy of. Our role is we're are all coaches that I've ever heard in my entire coaching career. I say I'm gonna use that I'm gonna give you credit for that. Chris I will get credit. I will say that. Can you has you have used it with numbing repetition? How did you come upon that Chris, you know, a buddy of mine, and he and I were talking about the there's actually a definition for curling parents in parent to sweep and get out of the way for their kid sort of like a hover parent, and I'll say that's not us. You know, we, but we we liked to do is as kids going to college is that we need somebody to keep them in that group. And I was like, okay that'll work. And I kind of went from there with it. It's classic though. Because as a parent, I mean, you're giving them momentum. You're giving them the direction. I mean, it's got to be in the right direction. If it's off to the sides or backwards. I mean, there's no chance right? If it is not no matter what you do as a coach. There's no chance get unless the parents have guided them in the in the right direction to me, it makes it makes all the sides. It's got both sides of the equation. As a parent myself as a coach, myself responsibility. It truly truly resonates. Yeah. I mean, some kids you have to probably sweep a little harder faster. But all in all it's the same thing. I mean, I mean mentor ship and we're passing our kid on and eighteen years. So you don't do say a kid onto anybody. But even as a pair of myself also paints a good picture two of them in. This is this is really the most productive thing that you can do for your child. I mean, it's not it's not gonna be being a helicopter parent or being kamikaze parrot. You know, you're not in the best interest of of the youngster. But being a really good at at being the curler thrower is that what it's called. Are they are they the pusher, which there, I don't know? I watch once every four years, I don't know all the terminology will medal a cow enough force so Christmas go back into when did you assuming as a football player with kids at you footballs been around their lives, when did you know that your son was going to be a football player? Not just football football player. Coach, Mary, I think it's first year was like when you or eight an initially. I said, you know, what I'm not going do that that that former player coats? Kosa kid, and and, but you know. I feel like I can help a lot of una kids to and so early on. I saw that. He was I mean, he had some ability. He stood out, you know. But this is just his coordination and everything, and I'll tell you I never really pushed or my we never really pushed sports onto into the boys. But we said if you wanna play play you play the ho season, you don't quit, and but you don't have to up to you. But he he just he always he was always one of the bigger most more coordinator kids and just come Saudi early on. Why can tell you what I saw they were. Chris was the was the ninth grader and younger. Brother was the eighth grader. And I was just got here to Michigan. I was recruiting down in Georgia and go to their school, and the coach tell me about the prospects that he had that were seniors juniors Denic, these two young men that are that are the sons of Chris hidden, and I'm thinking to myself. Okay. Well, what I want the next Chris hidden, not not somebody that's necessarily named Krizan. So these two we walk. We're down the hall. I see a one watt by walked down to hog. Oh, my racial. And we immediately we immediately offered the next day. Call the coach back and said, we're we're offering offering both the stors, but and then talked about Kris coaching. Then I later learned that you had you had coached you might wanna talk about that some of the some of the players that you coached at we're on that that seventh eighth grade team. Couple that are coming to Michigan in this class. And then and then others that are that are playing basketball or football somewhere this year going into they're going into their freshman years. Give some of those names. Just over the years. This little pocket area outside of Atlanta opportunity to coach coach against kids. Whether it's doing Peri Carl Hamilton who's gonna know today. Perry. Michigan up here, right and also DJ terminal plate, you know, cross paths. And no so kid. Couple of other kids that are going to Notre Dame and. So there are quite a few, and what is still chambers Ohio? Steam. I had a teen think there's like five five six however, five scholarship kid there on this team of like. Wow, seventeen kids, and we we want most arguing saying. The coach probably lost the ones that we that we, but you know, how that works. Chris I have a favorite ask of you. If I might we have a basketball coach down there at the university of Georgia, Tom Cruise. Son-in-law married to daughter Joanie that is in need of some help recruiting wiser any way, you could kind of maybe some of those in history. You know? It's funny. You mention it. The number one player in the two thousand and two thousand nineteen who's committed to Georgia kid by the name of Anthony Edwards. Right. Was a teammate of Christopher's really like from fourth grade on a basketball. That's fantastic. So we've known the kid since he was eight eight or nine and so yeah. So I delivered him to. For you, even it was done this very very Jackie Harbaugh. Jack Harbaugh Joni Harb Harbaugh creed. We're all very very thankful. Number one kid into that's fantastic. And they are so excited about him. Joining the program the couple of weeks, we're going to allow a win at schedule. I don't know if we scheduled the next but lucky sports dead. Greg Turner will eventually be on this show because he's definitely one of my favorite parrots the tire class. Can you maybe say a few words about Drako Turner? We'll play it. We'll play it back for Drako when he's on the when he's on the podcast. It's known them sin again third. Great. Wow. Not not since I was in third grades since Christopher. Yes. His DJ Christopher. We're in third grade. Okay. But you talking about a thorough intense light up the room Sturt. He does his homework, and I think after every game this year every Michigan game is here. I got say from Dargo. What do you think? I mean, he was he was he wanted to tell you wasted. I mean, he's thorough. Great clearance and addition to Commission question, Chris, what is it about that area that you're in? It seems like in the last ten plus years that Georgia Atlanta particular Georgia has really blown up when it comes to football talent basketball town, probably baseball town, we go and some other sports, you know, it's an obscene it like like at home in the last ten fifteen years. So I think part of it is there is some some really good coach in on level. And it's I mean, I grew up in Chicago and the programs that are here in Atlanta or nothing I mean are so far beyond what what you get in Chicago. It's like you football. So I I think that's that's a lot of that's a big part of it. No, the coaching the facility, and you know, just for some reason on those in the water or what? But. The kids are just I mean, there's really good athletic kids longtime that way with with baseball to the youth. Baseball's is stork right in in Georgia with kids playing on the travel teams, and the what nine ten eleven year old range, and and the county right next to us is like. Has produced multiple professional baseball player. Somebody told me that Georgia turns per capita for football players is maybe unseating, the Florida, Texas, California. Those those top long been top three. But just just heard somebody saying it's of the study that less players are playing in California. Youngsters are less less amount of youngsters playing football in California that maybe maybe Georgia is going to go ahead in terms of per capita. And the interesting thing something that are if their land a natural was a state it would be like in the top well for something like that as far as producing e one players. Do a lot of a lot of those of the folks that live in that area relocated where they back like grandparents in north that relocated into that area. Or have they been there for for generations question? I think there's a there's been a lot of relocation county, which is where where the boys school is. I mean, it was one of the fastest growing county Kerr like five year stint. And so there's a lot of lot of relocation in quite a few kids from up north. So and I think that's why you see the the connection kids will into right to go to Michigan and to go to school outside of the southeast. Also, I think there's a lot warmer professional athletes that choose to live in Atlanta. I know I've had several Rabi cannon a lot of guys that I played with that. The sided to live in 'lanta when they retired. So who's the tackle that we had here at Michigan in the seventies? Might Ken my Ken, my kin. Yeah. Teammate them on here when I played from Alkan, and yeah, he well Evanston township Brian school, which is where we're northwestern is. And I were he was the left tackle and the right tackle. So I was coaching here in Michigan at the time with Bo, and I remember recruiting him Elliott us lack macoute him. And he was a tall lanky tight end. I think he was from Edison. Yeah. Everson, and he was a tall lanky tight end. And you're wonder well, it tight in and and for so they had a vision that he was going to fill out and one of the one of the last players that that Michigan recruited came here. I think he started for years, I'm not mistaken and had a fantastic career here then on into the pros and then into politics, right? Chris. That's right. He was phone county. Michigan. Why why he wanted to go into politics? That's one of the things we're scratching our head on. But thanks. Another interesting thing came up. We were just we were assigning all the numbers to the players for the coming season. And Chris on every visit that he's come to Michigan. He's always any any time. He's put the uniform on or taking a picture in the uniform is he's always seventy seventy four seventy four every single time. And where that number in high school and ask them what is top three? We're going to be thinking seventy four was gonna come back, and it wasn't it was some single digits and four it was kind of all over. It was a mix. It was a mixed bag out. But he's we're putting him in fifteen and so you can aware number fifteen that was one of his one of his choices with with what's available. And I don't know if you had any insights on that. I I was kinda apart the sizing that this Chris dead set on being a defense alignment in any. Seventy four number was something that that he was not gonna he did not want on. What do you think? What are your thoughts on that? You're barking up the rate treat. I think he figure if it wasn't a game situation, and he wa- he wore fifteen or single digit. You couldn't look to him it all kinds of tax. Legally do. I didn't ask you. That was kinda as those thoughts running through you were discussing that Chris gibbered is I had no thought that that's direction. This was going to go. I had never. Put it makes all the sense in the world. What's here? But we've talked early, you know, some of the other dads have have been on on the show here and talk about this class in particular in wildlife like so much and they're not they're not allergic to work. They they love playing and they're really really competitive both on the field and into classroom to a man in this class and also talked about camps, and we had long offered Chris. So we're down. It was in Mercer. Right. Chris. And we went down there to the camp. And and Chris the sun every drill every drill in front of the line every drill six seconds of of all out play. And then he would sprint back to the strip back to get in line where some guys are kind of trying to be ender off to the side and took as many reps as he could take. And and again, we're talking about guys already got. Fifty scholarship offers but still went to compete, and and I know you up into stands that had head to warm your heart at your did mine. Yeah. You know? And that's the thing about him. He loves to compete. He loves to Lee. And that's just that's the kid that you're getting. I mean, it was it was never one of those things where as a parent you have to like, you know after game. Some this is some that that he's taken upon themselves to to do Chris take us to the process a little bit. As far as Christine is concerned. Why did he five star kid out of Georgia? What led him to the Russian to pick the maize and blue, you know, actually after coach offered him. He and we told him, and he was I I wanna commit I'm like, dude. Breaks. The process, you know, let's just go through the process, and and you know, he's actually my we sat down and talked about schools and talk about some of his even was Lou early. But I'm talking about some his academic interests. And we did some of the vetting. So basically we said, hey, here's a school beginning of them. You can go to we vet it, and we came up with a list of schools that that we would felt comfortable and. And I and I thought just do the whole process the staff, you know, get a great job and just recruiting and just keep an and gate, and we bring them up, and and we felt comfortable with with the staff and in the school. I mean being from my wife, and I both being north western people. And and being big ten people who were familiar with the school, Michigan and feel very comfortable with it. Another thing I really like about the classes that they're also really good students in and Chris is leading the way in other one of four point zero students in in this class. And also about a three eight core to throw it throw out there. Lexi's. He's three eight in the core is well, which there's a jumps everything. I really I really jumps it up to you know, as as Chris said he leads on the field. He leads in the classroom and leaves off the field too. So. Sided about that. He's gonna take full advantage of the of the Michigan education. Chris is Chris of a multi-ethnic a multi sport athlete or or just concentrate on football. I love is basketball. He he. You know, and tell them that you know, basketball players love watching football. Right. That would that's gotta get on our board right there. Football players wanna be best ball. 'cause I never think Charles Barkley when football for like one day. Never. But Christopher his his first loves basketball and. In in in high school last year. They were they were state champs. He's played a integral part and nice started. And and so in seventh and eighth grade. He was on. Back to bag a championship national championship teams. And so that's been as I love you mentioned basketball players that like to watch football. I like to watch basketball a lot too and just put this out there. If I if I say livers is a basketball player that likes to watch football at some point. I would love to give him an opportunity to play life. I say livers is about the six man on our basketball team area. Michigan watching him run around. That court tight end would be a heck of a position number the guy. You had with the colts. We had a bunch Pollard. Yeah. Pollard where we see Marcus power. They played at the colts. He was a basketball player. I wanna say at southern Illinois or or Bradley one of the two Hersi Hawkins went to Bradley. I might be thinking maybe thinking him. But I think Pollard one of those. One of those two Bradley, Bradley, baller course, Antonio gates and also Marcus Pollard and it did not play. I don't think he played college or didn't play football. I don't think. Dibrell rarely have a team. I think it was kind of the same story is is Tonio gates. He was a bass college basketball player into playing pro football. But the one thing you ever noticed like when the guys get like, you know, bumped or hit and they they lay. And they wait for three minutes before they said. They're right back in. They they need to come up with a rule if you for the time that you lay on the court is the amount of time. That's another one. You know what? Wouldn't be a bad role for football either. Each year. It seems that that guys stay on the stay on the ground. That used to be a thing and football when you say when I used to play but never wanted to be on the football field laying on the football. You got to the sideline under your our by by by all means necessary. It's it's the same in. I'm seventy nine years old. Here was a rule when I played football. If you were hurt your team was charged at time out with me. I mean, if you run a field time out, whatever at this guy fixed. The idea was we used to practice. We can't take time your drink. We're gonna get some letters bales. Saying we're not. So let's say that the hormone podcast not advocate advocate for that. We're just saying what it was. Smith that Claire we're so we don't you people are about the Email. There's something unique about watching offense lineman play basketball when he posts on Twitter. It's so much fun. Now, it's always a big dunk. Chris, you know, it's all it's very rarely isn't a little jumper. Or rebounder says it's always the big man going down the middle of the paint and throwing it down. No, you probably mentioned at state champion. Yep. Champion and the owner of report dunk this year. On twitter. You could see them though. Also, also change gears here a little bit. But. You been a very successful businessman as well. And you are you where you at with that right now, you are you are you still last time we talked you were selling some of your stores. Yeah. About twenty years ago wife, and I opened the first Hinton's wine store and mainly down here in Georgia. They call them package stores, which still don't understand whether call them packing stores. But, but it's it's we we saw beer wine and liquor and more focused on line, and we had two stores and sold them both in so kinda like in limbo right now trying to figure out my last hurrah. I got it figured out. And my has got figured out your wife by we're talking to you. They she's talking about the moving up here to Ann Arbor and looking for some places, I think that'd be phenomenal. Yeah. That thinks you know, you're talking about just continuing the parent team somewhat. I think I can see that. And I I do like a great Ruben. And and I found the. The best Rubin in Ann Arbor. You hope it's parents place. Zingermann Perry's will ris at all no question about it question about it. And I and I've tried all over the country, well and get your name on end, and that was also part of the evaluation process. It's parents I have never in my in my go-to five years of coaching experience. I have never heard the defining part of the decision was a Ruben. That a lot to do with. Man lives in Georgia, the Georgia. Ruben I'll tell you. What do I mean as a play here when I played here in Michigan? And I've heard some of our guys talk about it as well. It's a it's a great place to go to college for food. I mean, you can get the you can get the the drive-by place the sandwich shop, you got every other kinda get the place. You can go for just gonna sit down. You got the place you go and sit down for a long time. It's got got all those opportunities points of of of getting good food. Upgrade foodie towns. So I know coach you've asked we've all the parents that come on here for lucky sports parents about the interaction amongst Christmas you and the other parents amongst the players are the parents of the players on the incoming class interactions. You guys have had mentioned earlier about, you know, some some of the real positive things about the class and a parent one thing that really stands me is that there's some some really cool down to earth. Parents. Yeah. And I'm looking forward to to to spend in Saturday afternoon. Soon. And later in the day with and hanging out and fellowship in and, you know, not just our joy appearance. I had a chance to spend some time, but canoes Johnson's pants down in Texas. And man, that's that's one of the things that really stands out about the class to meet no question. That's what you want your kid to hang out with with kids that that are like minded kids, and it starts with the parenting led the way with you in my area that that some of the favorite parents without question most down to earth best conversations. So Chris too. I mean that was a lot of the the youngsters in the class that made they were they were going to Chris. And I know Dax hill, and Chris communicate a lot and Chris. Was a great resource. And I tell you what I mean, also, I will say about the, you know, when I talk to people to is. I'm really proud that the you Chris or sending your son here to the university of Michigan. Because I mean, you've seen it all you've seen programs. You've played in college you played in prose for a long time at at the pro level. And and know what? No, how important picking the right university is. So, you know, that's something that I'm as a coach, I'm really really proud of that, you know, somebody of your knowledge and experiences sending their son to Michigan. Thank you. And and and, you know, having kids that that buy into you know, what we we're thinking, and and they're able to communicate their future teammates and funny a quick story when we were we haven't dinner one night, and this is right around the time with Dax decided to you committed to Alabama and Christopher Christopher phone rings. And and you know, we're like, what are you? You know, you don't leave the dinner table to answer on, you know, do phones at the table. And he's like, but and he gets and his decks like, you know, call me call me back. And so yeah, I think he Li he leaned on Christopher little bit. And so to have a kid who that type of kid that other kids look towards and it's pretty. Cool. And to be a part of the class ball. Chris. Appreciate your time. Being a part of lucky sports parents here on the podcast and look for the you up here in the fall. I'll be there your best Maya we'll do. Thanks, Chris coming up next. Jack talk here on a tacky day, the Harbaugh's podcast. This is Jack talk. I wanna listen I want to be better. I want to be the best. I can be welcome to our team that Jack talk as you get older. You get to be seventy eight years old. Here's what I find hair grows in places. It hadn't been before. Welcome to hashtag, Jack talk now time for Jack talk here and attack each day, the Harbaugh's podcast and Jack last week on the podcast. We had been McCain's podcast. He, of course, can't McKinley. We talked a lot about canton McKinley high school when he was on the podcast, and after we were done we were talking off the air about the recent passing back on February eighth of Richard dick Kempthorne who was a Michigan legend he passed with the age of ninety two. He is a canton legend, he's a Michigan legend. He's at. Even bigger canton legend and also he's an American hero. And I've actually told this story many times on the radio. But I know we wanted to have a chance to kinda send him off with an teach people about him to those don't know who Kempthorne is a you did a little bit of reading some of the obituaries and some of the articles about him as well. And you sounds like you learned a few things too. I really did this. This was a story written by Tim of bore tos a Ken repository newspaper February tenth two thousand nineteen and it was sent to me Ron Blackledge a former teammate of mine at bowling green can't night who who knew dick very well sent the article on his on his passing, and I had the pleasure of meeting. Dick Kempthorne twice when speaking at the NFL hall of fame luncheon and Ken and which dick put together way back in the sixties when the hall of fame came there to can. And he was a real in. Real Michigan, ma'am. He was a former canton McKinley high school and university of Michigan football star. We talked about the mcdaniels their their career Ken McKinley and my career there university of Michigan plate he played on the university of Michigan football team nineteen forty seven thousand nine hundred forty eight undefeated football teams, nineteen forty nine. He was on the university of Michigan football team. I subject before we get how about this. He actually started his college career playing for sid Gillman and your. Will is fascinating. He went third World War Two where he was part of the invasion of the Philippines. And then he transferred here at a nineteen forty six. He was playing for while he Weber's team of reserves. And there was a quote from Fritz Kreisler that said get that wild man out of there. He's the roughest showing man we've had around here since the late Bill Hewitt. He's strode the landscape with football humanity. That was Wisconsin state journal article nineteen forty seven, but that's what he wasn't even eligible to play because he was on the transfers IRS freshmen were eligible in those days. So based on the war. They changed the rules for couple of years, but he was ineligible at the time. Yeah. But interesting guy and in his football career described some he had massive your strong hands. And he never ever lifted away. He got those hands strong hands by doing pushups and pull ups, and he developed the rest of the store you'll get somewhat of an idea about that. He. As you mentioned. He was so physical in practice on the practice field that he had to be taken out of practice. So they wouldn't hurt his hurt. His teammates in one thousand nine hundred sixty six over dinner. He convinced Dan dear door, then a senior at Glenwood high school in Kano Hieaux to attend university of Michigan. And Dan describes dick as a Michigan man through and through. And that was one of the big reasons that he chose Michigan after graduating from Michigan. When this story gets really good after graduating from Michigan dick entered the United States Air Force as a pilot he flew one hundred and one missions in the Korean war. He was awarded the soldier's medal for saving the life of a fellow air force pilot who had crashed on an airfield in Japan. And the and the soldier was a gentleman by the name of new tenant, Henry rock of Brooklyn, New York. He. Collided with another aircraft on that airfield. The second aircraft came down on a on Henry rocks plane, and he was trapped in the plane and a fire broke out. And what happened after that? Dick Kempthorne saw the crash sprinted two hundred yards to Disley who football fields two football fields. He sprinted to get to the aircraft. As it was on fired. He jumped on the wing of the aircraft ripped the bullet proof, canopy off of off of the aircraft from rocks plane with his bare hands with his bare hands, and he was still trapped in the plane because once he got the canopy off out that the planes gunsight had trapped the pilot in the plane, then Kempthorne rip off the gunsight the gunsight, but he found. Metal mounting of rod in the airplane. There was still a lot wasn't allowing rock to escape from the airplane in the and so he was able to do is rip that boning off of his body. So he could get out of the airplane the plane soon after that exploded and rock said later, and this to me ties, this whole thing together, he said, it would have taken a sledgehammer to dislodge that gunsight and that mounting piece from the airport strong hands that he must that. He must have had and dick Thome's Addica Kempthorne, son. Eric said on his passing his dead had only one rule the lesson that he taught his children less that he taught all that came in contact with him in canton, Ohio and here was the lesson. Ira, treat others as you. Would be treated and we've talked about that on the podcast. And and here's a true Michigan man citing that. But again, I have a great thing that I've think I've come to is. It's a part of football that we sometime miss we way. We hide them. We run them. We do all these different things jump them up knock on how high they're getting how far they're jumping. But that quality of hand strength. How it defines and separates football players pretty much all positions and dick Kempthorne had that quality and true, Michigan, man. And we're so proud we lost him three or four weeks ago. And I know all in canton northeast, Ohio have come in contact with him share, our our sorrow. It is one of my favorite stories to go through in the countdown. Every season's we go through the former players that can throw more the number thirty eight. So he was drafted by the eagles of the NFL draft by the Browns of the AFC back before they had. AFL emerges and all that kind of stuff happened, but he said not professional football because his dad had a car dealership in canton, and he wanted to go work for his debt, which after the war. He went back and eventually he worked with his dad, and he bought it from his dad, and he expanded to this huge Kempthorne automall down and Ken, but in nineteen fifty three the year that he was a hero and saved rocks. Life a few months later, like three months later after he was cited for bravery. There was a reunion in Arbor for the nineteen forty seven national championship team. And so he was a key member of that team. Also key member of the nineteen forty eight national championship team as well. He was a captain in nineteen forty nine and team MVP's just throw that out there. Well, this was from a newspaper article covering the rec- him receiving a gift that he did not coming. So I think it was a reporter was there when he gets when he's going to get this says Lieutenant Richard Kempthorne jet fighter pilot with army air force in Korea. Doesn't know it yet. But he's about to receive. A present that will undoubtedly chairs the rest of his life. Mighty dick one of the great linebackers and football history is one of the line wrecking crew of Michigan's championship nineteen forty seven forty eight teams. And now he's doing even finer job as a fighter pilot with more than sixty missions behind him in Korea. What were they sending him the entire team and Fritz Kreisler signed a football hor when they shifted to career and he received it in Korea right after he had saved rocks life. So it ties into that story and back to Michigan football and this article written in the repository talk about Paul Brown. Head football coach of the Browns after he'd gotten out of the air force and sent dick Gallagher who was his chief scout and assistant coach to Ken to talk him into common playing play for the Browns and his dead met dick Gallagher at the door and said, I know why you're here there will be no talk of professional football. He's not going into professional football. He's coming into the business. He's going to. To run our business, and eventually it'll be here. So don't even walk into door. Dole think you're talking him into into playing football. And he was regretful he later in life. He wished he'd had an opportunity to play at least one or two or three years as a professional football player. I wonder how many guys 'cause I've gone through the countdown. There are numerous guys drafted by the lions in the thirties or forties or something like that even back into before that chose to go to medical school chose to go to his father's his father's business. There a bunch of guys like that. And it shows in the twenties thirties forties and even to the fifties. That you would say, no football. I'm going into this other career because there's money probably another career than there wasn't football. Now, there's no chance, and it was turning down a professional professional athletic career that you could make millions and millions. But that wasn't the options back then. But so many guys turned it down. And I guess a few of them like what maybe if I just played one or two years. I was drafted by the Buffalo Bills. Back in nineteen sixty one and dick Gallagher, whom we've just talked about was the guy that came from the bills to sign me and Chris line, and we had a lunch and I have the contract. I mean, it was I can't remember the exact amount, but it was like eight thousand or nine thousand a year dekum and play play professional football. Will these gentlemen, new were they wanted to doctors and dentists and lawyers and here's father's businesses waiting for him. I mean that that was a tough decision as you mentioned many of them chose to go onto their life's work rather than play professional football for one or two or three years. We touch on the life of dictum passed away February eighth at the age of ninety two a Michigan a canton, Ohio a legend and United States hero. Absolutely. And we're so proud goes back long long here at the university of Michigan in what greater compliment than you, can can you be paid. Then he was a Michigan, man. 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Sports PR Consultant and Flight Attendant, Keyon Johnson!
"Mark don't we have on the show wake up good morning. Everyone welcome in mind this morning show. I'm here with my co host to as always. Because he likes. He likes his name to be said a and also a very special guests a good friend of a friend of mine. we have. Who's also a flight attendant and a sports. Pr consultant kion johnson. How you doing today. Man man of everybody doing out there another paradise hanging hanging there. You're you're coming in from vegas third. It's hot out here to ask how the heat was well today. Today it was actually one of the one of the better days it you know it didn't it didn't get the one tens it was like just like one zero seven zero six so that that's Feels a lot better to one tenth. So i want six. I'm like. I'm really hoping you don't have the humidity. Florida has man i. Actually i used to live in florida man. I used to live in a city called sunrise. So down. Like right outside of fort lauderdale. Okay it rained like literally new. When i was made for because it it rained every day at two o'clock. It just came down ally when that range dr cows man. I'm late today clock. Yeah i mean so yeah. That humidity is real It's it's really weird. We have our typical florida rains. It like monsoon for five minutes and then clear skies. Yeah exactly yeah now are you. Guys are in orlando ish i i'm in orlando to. He's using all of their state graham in kansas. Okay we saw humidity. Or i just moved here about a year ago girlfriend and she actually went to college to adapt to both of them. She went to k stay in ku. But i think she's on jayhawks better so i would say jayhawks. 'cause i got that i grew up with big jayhawk fans My wife's family is a is like pretty much on jayhawk. Stay there in a city. College shawny kansas. That's exactly where i'm at that really i was. I was expecting to say thank ninety star would be to another one Some city like be city year. I know there's there's bonner spring side aside. I remember that one because i was laughing at childish. Yeah no i get that i get. I laughed when i heard that's crazy. Everyone decipher bonner's actually butter. I mean ethnic so so tell us. What's it like being a flight attendant. I i'm terrified myself off-line so you just got gotta be like nature view like second nature is actually a man. It's it's pretty cool man. I i really like it. it's a it's a. I feel like i get paid to go. Visit my friends like all over the country so you like one day. You're in kansas city. The next day you're in orlando and you know. Sometimes you have like twenty hours to stay there so You know when. I when i gave you know foam our friends and we can kind of pick me up. Show me the city. We'll we'll grab some Step to eat over. Ed either gates was the other one. Nato gazes the one that yell at you to barbecue place out and then you know or Were in fort lauderdale. Whatever wherever we are we going you know go graphs on the eve or go hang out and chill and like relationships that you've had for years you probably haven't seen these guys in like ten years eleven years somewhere around there and it gives you it gives you an opportunity to go and You know kind of a world places it you know. You probably haven't seen it long time Right now is low. Crazy with the with the state of the world would coat it and all that stuff and i guess like the hardest part about it right now is just Is just khanna. Megan schumer people are being safe by winter. Mass and stuff like basil. You gotta make these. You know these announcements. I you know keep umass on. Don't take off. I haven't been one of the people that got punched in the face on it kind of happy about that. You were one of the fun flight attendants they didn't speed traumatic for you. Just get through it. I you know. Sometimes it kind of fit. It depends on the mood. Like sometimes i'll make a joke. If people get it denali to make another one in work it goes without personality. I think too. Because if i think if you're a cool if you you know if you are like relaxed than not that kinda liza tempo for everybody else. S get you know. They see somebody coming on board. And you you know you down or you maybe not having a good day in showing that you not having a day. Well let's go go go towards a passenger now. You may be a problem where being cool. They would've made it a lot easier so like say that. That's probably the hardest part right. Now is just kind of dealing with that fisher. Probably flown a handful of times. New terrifies me every single time. It's more like the turbulence or is it is it just a fact of being forty thousand feet. So i've been. I'm so thankful that. I have never actually experienced any kind of crazy. Turbulence people talk about where they're like we feel like four forty feet or four hundred feet down in the air. Like what's like little timmy. Leg went through the roof. I'm like dude. I don't know like i thankfully never experienced that. It's just like me. i'm. I'm i like the ground. I don perfectly content on the ground. I'll go by car go by bo. But i don't care too much to take to the skies. Now if i was like a superhero and i could fly. Okay yeah you can control all of that. That's a whole different game. And that's probably the only way fly other than that. No interest so so speaking of that. Have you had any like crazy. Turbulence ernie stories along the lines of that like some crazy happened. Have you ever thought you were going to dial a plane. Flying as a flight attendant to be honest with you i have not. I'm doing knock on guest. Pretty lucky medicine tacona. That's my that's my bad. i'll take it back. i'll take her. yeah. I definitely hope not. I mean we had some turbulence from four to whereas like you know. Let me let me put this at all but in i luckily it hasn't been anything like a to too crazy to scare me away from doing a lot of times minute crazy part. Is you know when it's when it's super targeted or when it's you know moderately turbulent you still people getting up walking trying to go to the bathroom like this stuff. You know 'cause if it is the right thing making hagan float up hit the hit the ceiling and knock themselves out and you know for me. I'd be like tell us. There's nothing worse than turbulence except for going through turbulence and having to take a poop now. Insist cannot just sit in. Hold this way to this is over or you. Excuse me count. How bad is the turbulence for hidden turbulence. I'm not waiting. I'm going right there right there. My seat it is what scared me i tac can. I don't know there's a few times like you go through the clouds you know and it gets like real pretty shaky like dragon outside. You can see it. Man especially like nervous fliers ban is kinda funny but it's not funny at the same time because he's like man you know. I don't think. I don't think we're gonna fall out the sky man so yagi just chill. But they don't and they just they just stayed around as play games or people and they're walking in your life that one best to nervously really had to play again. You could see everybody can see it when they walk. My goodness the yeah. They'll they'll let you know that. I've never flown before. All right cool man. Just have a sit down relax. That's all you gotta do. Have you ever had to kick anybody off the plane Have not i. I have not been like. I said some people are really really into doing man. I'm not. I just let you know unless they are in. This is a hypothetical unless they just come on in a religious belligerent. Or or just a just just acting full or something like that alleyway. Managers sit down and joy and you know they don't you don't mess with any other flat passengers. Don't mess with us. We got an hour and a half together. Man analysis spot. Yeah we can do this. It doesn't sound so bad but manda even like an hour and a half from here from florida to new york terrifies me. Like i'm six three so like i. Two seats do not accommodate tall people. And i'm like already feeling slightly claustrophobic. And as i'm not i'm not a big fan. Not a big fan. Everything is just like torturous rent there one like i'm in my mind. We're about to this guy any moment a brace for impact back back in the days when we was we was doing how our pie is like no. Let me take this Take this martin reader. assam take this. Take this. take this drink. Calm down a little bit taken that you'll wake up you'll be good. Yeah i've i've tried pre in their portabella. Nothing like the second. We start like rolling it once we get ready to like. Hit that hard trait in liftoff. That's that's one all right. That's when i started clenching. Everything's getting tired. I could feel my muscles tighten up. I'm like clinton the chair. Like whoever's hand like in grab and i love looking out the window and cool school seeing still terrified. You're flying through a storm through a couple of storms back to colorado man. It was like thunder and lightning everywhere in the clouds. Rain knows like how many shut this dammar has something going on. And it's never like a never like a flight. i. I mean there's a good flight but it's never like just a smooth easy leaving any time i left because that's what i was before kansas colorado. So anytime leaving. It was fine. It was coming back. It was always something coming back denver at denver. Airports they know do this out. Horse the horse with the red eyes as just sitting did to get up out of nowhere. Do the guy that was that started it died. It crushed him at while he was like originally doing it so his son finished it. I don't think it was meant to be made man. you see. it didn't work and yet he's got those crazy conspiracy theories and everything about it with the underground mall. The new world order every go some of those painting there for real. They're like. I'm seeing some of them do like under the. Are you talking about like in the airport on that. A lot of people pay attention to that. But i'm dark over here by it every single day dark. That'd be crazy. Never remember something else fisher. So what are some of the craziest stories. Have you ever like. Had somebody give birth on a plane like eighth anything insane on. I haven't. I haven't seen that. I i've seen i've seen like a you know people like get really sick and like pass out so then we have to like administer. Cpr and stuff like that. And i don't know if you guys have ever had cpr but that is not an easy thing. You rainy for it numerous times. But i have yet to do it in real life thankfully especially on somebody who just through yet. Nothing's obey man. You got to kind of keep like impressions on their chaz and then and then you gotta give them oxygen and then you get. I mean that's tiring you know really tiring you and sometimes you don't wanna for upwards of thirty minutes so it's like three three hundred rotating in doing it and stuff like that may yet. That's impressed with you. Guys even be being able to perform. Cpr was such a narrow pathway. Yeah you know you know what's really kinda crazy. Just how 'cause normally you'd think ed you kind of freak out you know what i mean you think that you. Would you see somebody Gasping for air or or pass now any in optimistically you saint like oh i can't i can't do this but it's crazy how your body just goes into help mode and you get there and you you know you just kinda you just kind of doing it and then afterwards after person comes to or whatever you know then the adrenaline wears off. And that's when you actually get scared and you're like oh. I can't believe just happen. You know a black thirty minutes. It's crazy how i mean but there have been stories of folks actually like You know Expiring on the play. And and you know you can't really can't really call it expiring on the plane. You gotta wait to get on the ground so you know even if you know that they're not would you anymore. You still got kinda keep doing it until they land and then in emt's come on. They'll you know they'll pronounce a day. But you can't really do it. You know the doctor. He just flight. It's not an easy. Yeah the net. That's like some of the scariest stuff at that. I've either witnessed or have heard about. I feel like i already know the answer this one but i know somebody has to ask you. Have you ever had snakes on the plane. I never had a snake. Oh well. I mean we've had never thought i've never had. I've never has gone we as a lot of crazy animals. Man you know these emotional support. Animal my motion supply brought on baking force as an emotional support. Animal emotional support animal. Yeah writing in the whole siamese. I don't need a settlement of front row and now other people gotta sit in that row with with the baby horse is crazy. Would've made you know what i needed. Emotional support over by emotional support. Badger carefully bites off why to slapped a little thing on his back below cope. And it's like a pit bull just just bargain and folks the whole time. I don't think that's really an emotional support animal but the folks that makes me think that that scooby doo live action movie where they snuck him on the plane as old grandma at that makes me think it would have been able to get away with it now. That was realistic. It was the type of animals staff that came on. I think. I think even read like somebody brought on a peacock one time. So yeah it's crazy. Look it up man. you believe know. There's those people that go and get license to give the licenses out for. Just maybe some money auto care will sign the paper for you and like that's it. You're telling me that when they came to school for the job fairs that one of the jobs was to go and become a person to license emotional support. Animals to people have been doing that. It's a lucrative business this like it sound like they could get some some good though on that man. I feel like i would have been good. That like kid comes in. And he's like. I'm having some bullying problems at school here. I got allama horia. he'll people for you. Be emotionally supportive. This is gonna be great next on. She's bringing on this email Fun factory guys. At the theme parks. Those giant asked turkey. legs are actually email. Don't tell me that don't wanna mela. It's still delicious. no it's a giant turkey that i john giant taking like. It's eating emus of it. I'm not to say that next time. I go whitening. That's easy move. That's if the guy's gonna kick you say as evil people still eat it depending on who who you talk to because like there was one time somebody i was working. I wanted to stands. 'cause i was i don't know where everybody that was actually working san wangled working on one of the the icy machines and they're like is actually i was like what that is and he's like i knew it and he just walked away like this. Okay i beg your eating email. I told you good so good. Like i'm gonna say turkey's still enjoy what i wanna enjoy right do. Even i mean. I'm very happy to hear that all your flights have been very good so far and i know i'm knocking right now. Yeah i i'm so sorry to cut that out there do we do a. Nobody even knows that you're talking about. I took it back. Nobody remembered so that that's good so tell tell us more about this. Sports pr consultant. This sounds interesting actually man. That's a. that's that's actually what i've been doing like my entire adulthood from from college man. I graduated from grandma state university in louisiana and then went over to Undergrad pr graduate adidas sport administration. So it was kind of. I kind of knew what i kinda wanted to go. And then back in two thousand and one I got a call from the houston texans and to be honest with you man. At first i was like never even heard of houston. Texans what is that and and but this was before the team starting okocha else didn't really start playing until two thousand two. Yeah so they. They called me as hey. We sing your resume. We wanna bring you down to interview. So i was like okay Like all right. Houston i like the city of houston to be i e houston was a great great place and i said you know when i get i got to college i would love to go to houston so was there like any moment in your mind right there. That was like this isn't real estate. Scam houston texans. Would remember that. That's exactly. I never even heard these guys so i quickly looked it up after it and i was like. This is real and So i went down there Because i was in california. I went back to california. 'cause i was doing an internship out there and and and they called me when i was in california and they said yeah you know we wanna wanna bring you down to interview you for a position that we have. It's an internship and i was like. Yeah let's let's do it so i go down there and it's funny it was right. It was ryan speaking of lives in this step. It was right after nine eleven. So so i go off. Live from san francisco to Houston in it's like seven. People wanna play and i was like. Wow okay this is. This is common scary. I get there. I'm interviewing with them with the with the managers over there and literally meant. It was like a again if you can remember that time. Everything was so hanson in in in the in the office building that interview with at the alarms just started going off like betas. Yeah they start going off and now. I'm looking around at Manager he's looking at me like what's going on here. I was like it's like being you know about this. Is this real man. What are you doing. We gotta his. I gotta go light on. The interview was like maybe five minutes and then that happened and then so we we just left and he called me later. He was like you know what i want. I want to bring you on. I wanna hire you. Just don't like i don't even know what i did but just sell arms man. I'm telling you on was just as scared as you know. Who's going on either man. We we have to get out of there. You know oslo fascinating gave out. You weren't so maybe it's me like man. I know i'm not i'm not. I'm not trying to all victims of that and so So yeah no. It started there and then So i got an here and one thing that that i think is important. I'm always kind of think is important. Is you gotta kinda network and you kinda gotta know where you wanna go when what you wanna do and so in doing that you wanna try to meet as many people as possible now. The the internship did i got wasn't ticketing and so i was like okay. This is gonna give me in the door. And i'll see where it's you know. Meet the folks at that. Where i wanna be and so I was there for about a year and during that year it would gave me time to meet like The communications afford taxes. And you know the whole staff The whole organization Bob mcnair who was the owner of the team at the time and he was he was actually a really cool guy man. He's just a i. I'm just an intern. there you know. And he's coming up. Hey how you doing you know. And i'm like oh man. This guy really knows my name but of course you know you run like a billion dollar company. You know everybody that's coming in and it still kinda made you feel like okay. At least i feel like. I'm belong so again. I just kind of like you know may way through introduce myself to tony while he was the Who was a vp communications. They're told him what i wanted to do. and the the crazy thing about bad he ended up going to He was a graduate of texas southern university which was Which was which was a small hugh in in in texas in houston and i was at an from gramling so we kinda connected with that With that background you know so we kinda got close. And he was like eight man. You know if you wanna come over here After you get off work with the taking an income kind of learn what we're doing over here. I was like yes no-brainer. You giving me opportunity. I thought it was. I thought it was cool. Man yeah. I do it for free so so i started going over there and kind of learning the nuances. That now on a meeting players we we had a we had drafted. Derek carr carr david carr brother. David carse. i'm getting a chance to like need him. And he was like the first taking draft. Some you know seeing how how these guys work work together and now meeting Like big time media people like John clayton. I don't know if you guys remember him but he was on. Espn saw. i'm like now getting to be like really close with these guys and kind of tells me like okay. Yeah we need. We need to talk to. We need to talk to david for interview. And i was like okay so now i gotta go david telling what the interviews about. Bring them over to bring him over to john clayton in his me doing this now and you know and i'm only doing it after i get off work from doing the ticketing okay and you will like that guy in the nba two k. When you play the when you play the my career mode and you finish a game but one that liked comes over and it's like hey you you had a great game tonight. We want to have an interview with you. They take you over to the other. Take you out it. Yeah yeah yeah yes. Oh man. So i did that with those guys and then Then they didn't have a permanent position there so he has so. Tony introduced me to got an kirk reynolds. Who was with the san francisco. Forty niners and So he's like all right we'll we'll we'll We have actually a seasonal. Pr internship if you wanna do that. Yeah why not get a chance to go back home to the bay area. So i went in. I went and did that with them. And they had like a great team Over there at that time they you know they had just came off the the nfc championship game With mary ut was a coach then went up by the time i got there. They they had brought on dennis erickson. And so i'm getting a chance to meet these guys now so now. Steel kind of building up my network and so after a while. Stay there for like a couple of years. And after a while i was just like you know what i can of go out on my own instill utilize these utilize these contacts than i have and instead of just being tied to one team i can you know. Reach out to this team here. This team over here to seem over here and just you know. Just kinda work. The way i want to work and the teams i went out. I i like pitch myself. And they were like yeah and i was like oh really okay. All and light lillyman. I just started. I just started working those guys and then Did the warriors as well. Actually when i was in houston to start working with the houston rockets. Too so i was just trying to get my get my name my phase and You know a presence out to everybody so if somebody said oh yeah. We're looking for a guy Well kion has done is so you know you build up your resume like that and you you learn to get along with everybody. That's the that's the main part about this about a pr. Job in in general is just. How are you going to be able to get along with. All these guys in Interact with all these different personalities. And then intern get these personalities to do what you need to do to get the the betterment of team or for the betterment of whatever it is you're pushing out there and that's a that's that's what i kinda had to learn to do and that kind of helped me out and going through all stepped onto a now and that actually helped me out with the flight attendants to so is is this about networking and talking to people in and basically just show him. Respect rallied people in their time and in what they what they what they need. And what you need and how can you get to. How can you jail. Altogether and that's awesome Has ever been a time. I guess that you like been awestruck or like had to resist getting an autograph from somebody especially like i started out doing man. that'd be the toughest for me. That is a tough is because now you like oh you go from you go from like not knowing anybody into how ucla i ran into a ronnie lott and and and unlike. Oh man i gotta. I gotta ask you to do for pitcher. But then you can't ask him for picture and you can't get stuff so you just kinda high let me let me just push down and kind of continue to be professional and so you know and that actually helped me out a lot too because at times like how man this. This'll be a cool picture to have right with this guy right here over there now. It's a you know you have to kind of resist temptation. Because you don't want them to start looking at you like. Oh this guy's a fan just a groupie you know you know when they when airbus businessman. Those guys worked really hard to be the best in the business at what they do so You know they won't they expect the same from you and that's what you got deliver so that that's a yes is concept now my kids now now nowadays kids will come off. Bring them and now. We're like oh let me go picture. They're happy to take a picture with those kids even want me let kids do you with a sport where you like into before all of this that lean towards the decision at all like where you went first off. I was I've always been into football man. Ogden plan for boston's i. Was you know a young out. Maybe like saginaw third grade unanimity ended up going to a a high school. That was really good. I mean like we were. We were like the number one high school in the nation for like twelve years is a in school call de la salle high school in concord in bay actually even made a movie about our high school so it was a school england so just just kind of certain remember the check it out man when when the game stands tall. That was the if you look at that movie. That was that was high school. Del sound concrete but they like that actually that experience there too man was kinda crazy because i went there my junior and senior year and my freshman sophomore or went to have very a another good. Football program wasn't wasn't on that level but it was still like really good and the year that i went over there the year that went over to delasalle my high school. Which was pittsburgh high school at the time. Beat dallas out. That was the first time they had been beat in seven years prior to that in the in the so imagine. Just go onto the school now so it was. It was kinda crazy and it was a it was a catholic. School knew nothing about being catholic at all. So i'm i'm learning all type of new stuff. I'm going into an environment. Where at pittsburgh it was very it was much like a melting pot of everybody. You black white filipino. Asian every type of race. That was around was at pittsburgh and i go to delasalle. And it's it's a say. There's a private catholic school so literally just like ninety seven ninety seven percent white and then like three percent was others. So i'm gonna oh my goodness this is gonna work out but again and everybody was cool. Everybody like accepted me. After after they you know and today it was like you can pittsbur- you us and stuff like that. I like well shoot. I'm here now mainly saharan. Let's go out and go out and get it and Yeah after that man we again went on to win. Twelve straight years so that was Analyst pretty cool man as somebody that grew out love for football. So i think that's what kinda had me going on that level Again went to gram one. Which was a hbu ryan right after that. So i had like three totally different size. Graham is a black school was is normally like like ninety seven ninety eight percent black students and like two percent others so when we you know going from totally different dynamics on each one thing because now i feel like i can interact with any group at anytime you know and and and feel comfortable you know. Yeah so and i think that's kinda that's that's really important to you. Know what i mean you got you gotta learn a culture you gotta learn other backgrounds that kind of progress sport so percents beauty of america we are the melting pot of so many so much out there to remind do it. So you you work with the las vegas rate is now right. So you've you've been inside the massive spaceship stadium i should. I'm gonna y'all over some pictures of that. I have from last year. Actually we just had a We just had a a tour of the stadium yesterday And you know kinda just again kind of getting ready for this upcoming season. Which starts saturday the first game. Saturday so We'll be over there. This'll be this'll be a little different. I really call it man to really the first time that they're going to play in the stadium because now they're going to have fans last year. It was cool. It was it was a it was a great venue but nobody was like it was so weird on on guys seeing on tv or something like that but just to watch a game with no fan the nba. Yeah it was weird like literally here. The players feel your all the press box you can hear them talking and like chan chair for themselves. You know what i mean. It was it was really weird. Was really funny when they started putting like the cardboard cutouts. Yeah because it's like holy shit. It's like the game with such high quality on the game itself was fuck on the audience there the digital. You could have all the different fans at home on the screens The one thing that drew me nuts about watching games with no audience. They still put like somebody's still many some type of like audience. You hear a go open hypoc and things are going on like who sitting there. Manning has added be normalized for the players. Still it was. It was crazy man crazy. So i'm i'm actually really looking forward to saturday. Just kinda seeing how. Las vegas is really going to like the stadium. Self is really going to embrace the raiders. I and i and i'll say the raiders. I in a in a in a test situation because you know the vegas golden knights came here and they like one immed- weekly year. They went to the you know so and the custom here. It's a it's a crazy situation. I i feel like they got a lot of pressure to go out and perform and perform at the highest level to at least make the playoffs. You know 'cause. I'm a raider fan. I've been raider fan my whole life. I'm originally from california and grew up watching because my dad saw i'm falling over. But i was gonna ask you since. Now you're doing stuff with the raiders and before you doing stuff with the texans with david collins around. How is that being able to like do with david car in the now derek carr kraus's thomas story The other day man. So when derek carr their was like maybe like five or six years old he had just running around and wait a minute. Do you like the quarterback. At a rate i is crazy. How to just see that progression. i mean. i'm proud to do though. Manny 'cause i think it's more is more of the fact that i seen him when he was a little kid and now he's you know now. He's you know at least a top ten quarterback in the nfl and he's a. He's raising his own now. Some it's a it's easy cycle of how his name went man brother now now watching you do feel like how many people especially in your position to like. Be that close to see that happen. So that's really cool awesome. It's like i say it's a good situation minutes is crazy and then Also got a chance in a as as as fate will take it man got the chance to work with the will still work with the warriors as well and it went from the warriors being horrible until now they're like they were like one of the top teams. They won three championships. And i was a part of you know are the team who knows the working games When those guys went and championships in and you can just kind of tell just you see teams that are good and you see teams that are great and you can tell the work ethic and the confidence that those teams have when they When they step out set out on the field or step on the court if they are going to be good at an dummy great and every time the warriors step down the court. It wasn't a fact You know is this going to be a close game or not. He was like we're we got We got one goal and that's winning championship. And they set out to do it man and i. It was like nothing. Stop him well the last two years. Of course they've they've been injured in and You know when caitlyn out that that hurt alive. But i think it'll be back opposite hill. Like how how steph curry klay thompson. Hoster they all really nice. Those solid man. They're really they are really like cou like like cool. Kasmin you approachable And and you know draymond is low energy he. He's real though you know he'll he'll he'll talk to you. We'll talk to you and he'll cry around which joking joke by laying clay as a same the logan more. You know goofy on k. d. like reserved like. He seems like he is in quiet. Kate when i when i make katie. The couple of times he was always solid. Man always Just just go in. And you know he would. He wouldn't take any mess but he was like all right. Man just a real nice do you comes from a his mom. His mom instilled a lot of values and a man so he. I remember his very respectful. Various backflow got man. that's cool. I forget that young though. Still though i mean i mean that's still like now early now but to me. It seems like these are like look. You know our kids but but yeah man. Just speak with you with the utmost respect. You know. it doesn't at that's pretty much. Hit is solid news. that's awesome. Let's get the no good to hear especially like as as nba fan of stuff. Like you always had these stories about them being different than what you wanna hear and stuff like that. So it's always cool to to hear like how humble and stuff that they are so good that a clipper search you got on your amicable fan. I've been a fan my whole life. Man when i grew up out in california. Zia young lad. I was always cooking fan man. Elton brand kohima. Getty sam cassell days. Katina mobile was shooter. Yeah i love the. I love i tell everybody may just got my son. Oh yeah. there's kion johnston that got drafted to the you got drafted to the knicks. But now he's he got traded to the always never he never met me before. Just gonna wanna games with a gold card. I'm your father. Maybe when they come to san francisco and Do play the warriors man. I'll say something to him about it. So all the since he got all this inside expertise so you got win. The championships ran nfl or nba. This year You know full disclosure. I am and have always been tampa bay bucks fan. I was kind of hard for me to It's kinda hard for me to go against the bucks but right now anyways. Yeah but i really see that. I really see another rematch of last year. Man i can't city they just got way too much firepower. Man they they'll they'll be there The bugs i think will be a. You just can't count tom. Brady out man. So i like seeing tom. Brady off the patriots. He's got way more of like personality in his having a lot. More fun now. It looks like it man boy. He got his boys down there with them. Though as crazy is a. I think it's i think it's going to be those two Back in the back in the ball. I just can't i just can't go against Tom brady in the in the super bowl. So i think there's leverage goes away. Man ever goes away fat. He definitely sold his soul to the delta play. Football a year younger than me man. Steel just out there. Killing mike about chris paul man. He made a deal with the devil to be one of the best point guards but he can never win a championship. That was the deal man. I was rooting for them to so bad as you have like come on y'all got i gotta do this. Yeah yeah janas. Janas had other other beast. I guy is built different nephew star and yet team. If you starting team would you. Would you take take the i bake now. Everybody everybody that at the age that they are at now. That's tough for me. Because i always. I've always played the nba seasons on the video games and done the gm stuff and my instinct is always to pick like one of the top young players in there like early twenties. Eighteen nineteen twenty twenty one because of all that potential. And how much like timespan you have with them. If it was like real right now and i had it. I it would be hard not to take him man like especially as he can do. He doesn't even need to shoot the ball. Like it's crazy josh. I have josh dill. Yeah guy oven. I'm i i could tell you. The last time i watched basketball was when everyone was so ashamed of dwight howard coming into the magic and quite honestly the magic having like oh six yeah like. I'm like yeah. I think i was still in high snow used. When i was a kid my dad growing up he would watch. Joe landon magic and so i go to those games and i'd watch him and it was cool. I liked being there. The atmosphere was cool and shortly after orlando disarmament like saga kaz. If they lost like everybody after that man he retired and low mahala. Do i had comes. Dude he's making them look good as few others. I forget but that was his peak man. Dwight howard without was the best was his orlando. Magic is yeah. And that's that's been it so after that i i know y'all being is greek. No and the only other people i would know is anyone from the city so like like like harden the big again and do you think he's still on oklahoma city. Okay sure like. Because i'm pretty sure the three year about probably now. I can't remember the other part. Brooke was because he he was he was small may get around good. He's a he's a laker now grenell. Yeah durant's a brooklyn in hardens. Aren't still no. He's in that now. He's to trains on the olympic team. Now that's that's who. I got now a couple of times but yeah they just one gold then. We need to have an episode. We just talk basketball. Let you talk. yeah no you. Don't you don't want me talking about basketball. I know so minimal. I i've been called a waste of height because the theory. Yeah but like. I expect you to play basketball again. You would have just been a point guard. if he played point guard shooting realistically. I have fun playing it. Like at the gym or like at the lion cer whatever but i never liked doing it when i had to like train hard core to actually play against other teams in stuff like i just like it for fun. I don't i don't like it competitively. 'cause i got competitively. See that's my pro. I was always the one lewis like. Let's go and play for fun and then fund immediately turns into competitive. Because i'm like it's not fun unless you win. Liked your facial the focus will we say we're taking his. I'm not dragging syria. Larry's had some anger moments with sports. Like my. I've got two older brothers. There are so many times that you play one on one in we would just go back and forth scoring and he would just post me up and score on me. Every single time analysis gets the point. Where would you start pushing him because he just lost my mind just like tears because that yeah i had my i had my share of wins. I was the shooter of our family. Might come out here. Three exactly albie tuna shooting contests. But i was enjoying playing football more than any sport as much as i'd like. I love hockey has like my favorites or but i would always be more than happy to play football or hockey. Help me out with high. And i'm still trying to. I'm still trying to learn. It knows crazy. I actually used to work for a hockey team in florida. The florida panthers as when i lived in Sunrise i used to work for another guy but man. When i tell you i understand what was going on. It was hard to understand. I didn't i didn't make it just didn't make it in high house like man i tried i gave it. I gave it good goal. But man. I just couldn't i couldn't keep up with the puck. I couldn't i. Couldn't i didn't know like it's the rule i they would start fighting unit. I liked to watch the pie. I didn't know why they started buying. I'll even ask players. I think. I think we had roberto lewanda. At the time. He was a. He was like the big. The big time player that the panthers had when we got the one guy that i'll like. No why do you. Why do you start five. I would. What causes the light. He's like sometimes we'd take hosts you can look up on like you to Nhl mic'ed up. And i believe they've done this with other sports but some people will will wear microphone. And if you listen to the trash dude they sound like hard hard core leg those middle schoolers you hear like over the internet when you're playing four dilate bugging dog. What are your stance or shanley. Do they talk. Some serious shit on is to each other and it's absolutely hilarious. It's they get fed up like 'cause they're sitting there throwing jabs at each other constantly almost every pug drop go you get it bitch like you know just certain stupid and i think that builds up the tench the tension but also sometimes they have those those players saturday they call scrappers and it. It's to start a fight to instigate a fight to get their their good player to wanna fight or to riled To kind of throw throw the game off or maybe change the the tired of housing's going case where the sport whatsoever. He's just there to foul the team. Dude there's some scrappers that are really good like they've gone on to take on more more prominent positions on ice but yet there's some not really what mass right. It's a best in hot hockey fights dot com looking at that one. Do they have some intense on. I can't remember the name. There's been some crazy hockey fights for sure i can't remember. It's like a really really old old old school one that he would just wail on people like he had this like he would like quickly punch back and forth like so fast. It was insane just people. I reminded that. I'm waiting for the documentary to pop on netflix. For the malice at the palace that they're going to do the our test one starts it starts tomorrow on. That thought thing to look at. I know i was excited to watch that once. That reminded me of that game. Watch that game on. Tv and solid happened. Oh this is crazy film in film yes he leaves leaves the court to go into the stands and starts like wailing on the fan because of a bunch of shit happened it went down because what was there like throwing stuff at the players like all is so what happened was is it like five five or so chairs back like disguised just like leave dover destroyed Okay i've seen him probably the yeah but but one dude just came like one fan. They were in detroit and they were planning a pacers playoff game or or what but the guy just came. Ron test was actually like one of the good players on the pace was on the opposite team and he had he put a heart. He did a hard foul on somebody on the somebody on the pistons and so he just went he just. He laid down on the scores table in somebody came like a fan came with. I dunno feels a slush year something in just Later ics craig rightly space to go away in a deal in our taxes. Goals are only just boom. He's any socks them. And then the The crowd just kind of come. They may start fighting him and so his teammates. Just come out of nowhere in just aren't brawl seven. Nba player seventy nba players. Fighting like the holes the whole palace in In detroit l. is craig this documentary. I'm excited to get the depth of and everything is could be. It'll be good. I just suspended for like a year and a half or something like that was quite a. Yeah it was. I think it was. If it wasn't a playoff game. I thought it was towards the end of the season. Because if i meaning or something for the game but it was one of the craziest ones for assured. I remember watching that light. Oh mark. I can't believe this is happening us crazy. Yeah i yeah i mean. There's there's definitely been quite a few fights in sports that dangerous man because these are these are powerhouse athletes that i really wouldn't want to be punished by one of these. I mean i think actually boxers they have to. I think they legally registered their hands as weapons. Get in a fight with like if they can. Yeah i mean they they can build. I lose their license in and then they go to jail. Charter has hindered like deadly weapons. Yeah that's crazy to me. That likes crazy. You could take these bad boys roadster. So as as somebody in npr. What about the one though. I can't remember who was on the cleveland browns a couple of years ago. And he scored that touchdown on monday night football and like win over and did the whole like p. thing and and but scooter whatever on the floor and everybody was all upset but then he ended up getting a like sponsorship for those dude wipes the running back for the cleveland browns a couple years ago before they were like good again and they were like they were losing and he scored a touchdown and just like went wild and like. I think you either like us. The football a wipe is but and then chucked into the standard. Something did something ridiculous and people were all upset about it and then it was like two or three days later it was like so and so signs like a hundred thousand. Whatever with dude wipes response was like as a pr person. What kind of work would you have to that yet. Damage like that sad. That's something that's kind of. Like i feel like okay. That's just crazy you'll get a you're you're kind of try to nixed astoria as fast as possible because you know what what is it was it really doing. He signed a contract Or if he did. I didn't even hear about this. I'll look up to see who was real quick. Because i i would allergists. You know if anybody asked questions on that like reporters us down. If i would. I would Instruct them like you know. that's a you know we. We had no comment on that. A lot of a lot of stuff that you can say like isaiah crowell into He was from alabama state here in alabama first and then he went to alabama state. I remember i remember him. But i don't recall that is He was on the jets not the browns. The two thousand six two thousand eighteen got fined thirteen thousand dollars in dorset from dude. What's up made the most cracks me up. That is hilarious go. Pr guy if you ever have more money on say say dude wipes as much as possible to so he wipe the ball on his ass. If you're telling me. I could just get down by my ass on this floor. One hundred thousand dollars sponsored. All i'm saying is that man to high school job fairs were missing a bunch of stuff that i could have been making money really boring away. It's almost like an office. Yeah what are they. They got the job fair and like they're trying to pay per company. Michael scott told the guy. That's that's exactly what the job fairs are like. Some of the most boring thing like basing to nothing. My dad wasn't allowed the job because of a crazy drop was yet. Nothing outside of the box. oh going back to go back to a crazy story. It's not a crazy story but this is probably one of the Things that will will deal with as pr people especially like sports pr. People a lot of times you'll give players that are in contracts Contract years and stuff like that and and publicly. Don't wanna talk about it. But that's all the media wants to talk about is. Oh are you gonna sign back team. Especially if they're really good player. Are you going signed back with the team. What are your plans. You know the the person or don't want to be a distraction tajani to lead up to this. So when i was with the san francisco forty niners a bacchanal three. We had te'o tones and has no who so. Why do because he actually had a show. That's what he knows. Disclosure wanted to coolest people. I've ever worked with like his was bad but that guy was were all some to this day. He liked him you so it was his contract year and he always signs of him. Because you know at the end of one game. I can't remember. Which game was he got voted player of the week. And so we had this. We had this reporter come through and you know is my job to kinda facilitate the the interview so ti was doing no interviews at all but he got this player of the week award and they had they had to do the interview. And so i go up to the reporter. I'm like hey man. We got the excuse. Me as i got yo to agree to interview but literally. Please just only talk about the player of the week. Don't go into anything else because you know. That's not what he agreed to and so me again. I'm an intern at this point. And i have to get this all set an i. Honestly i'm gonna. I'm gonna talk to kirk today to see if he did it on purpose to me. He said it up and he was like you got you got that guy. Go get him on the go get him later and you gotta let them know. Sounds like all right so the guy that reporter through these questions you know. How do you feel about the game. What did you know like just basic questions about being player to we. And he's like okay. Well good thank you for all and he was like well but we still have one more question. And i'm looking at myself. I on those guys. It's not is it and he says you know At the end of the season you're going to be a free agent n. l. Just look straight at me right now. A hey science. I gotta take back to. You know it's time for you to go back and get your treatment. So i had to basically like cut the interview because i knew going with the question right so i i cut the interview as i walked back and then i walked back out to the reporter. Might do fuck you doing man like you. You just got to try to make look bad. And now i gotta you know now. I got him looking at me like he can't trust me to you. Know put him on interviews and stuff like that which is is huge. Because that's your job if you can't get them to do then they gonna look to replace you you know and so So i cut the interview short. I had to go up. And i've talked to my boss. Hey i kept that interview short now. My intern and these guys are like the the the the newsbeat he's on. He's on his feet. So i had it sounded like a man at the cut is interview all because he went into asking t. o. About about the agency stuff and then my boss starts laughing and he is like i good job and then he's like school and so then i walked back down to the locker room and mto is still in there and he is. I come here. I was like over. I immediately like do. I didn't know he was going to do that. Totally and he was like man. I appreciate you doing that. Said you with me from now on if you need me to do anything just let me know because i know you got my back and then i'll tell you that to tell the story like that's you know that's what this job is about. Man you gotta sometimes. Sometimes you gotta be cool indian. Sometimes you gotta you gotta make those tough decisions man and you don't know where it's go now. You did the wrong thing. We don't we don't need you here. Were you know reporter. Te'o auma choose. Te'o i mean it's still and i you know at that point it was a you know. T. o. t. o. Is like the man in the bay area and next thing i know i'm getting invited to like his his party's and and and and like he's having like you know written now clothes like you come in you know. Bring your brothers read. Like oh. I used like crazy. Things can turn out to be like awesome at the end. You know what i mean so it was a it was a good. It was a good experience for me to do that. Get that under mount. Now you know now's easier for me to do that. I know you. Or you know what i mean or not. We ain't we ain't we can't we can't do that. Man oh you know or if or if it comes down to it we need a like. I'm going to really monitor you. And he just picked it was stick to be a big goals off boredom cutting and they know that you'll cut it. You know what. I mean on his name as it's funny how it happens. How how has komen gun and change all the process for you and what you do and a lot of ways. I normally just deal with the media so my job is still going as going as normal. I mean we gotta do. More protocol staff like You know we have to show our vaccination car now to to go into the stadium where the mass and you know. It's a little longer but as far as as far as me doing work. I'm still. I'm still going. It's still talking to players. Still getting you know still making sure the media gets whatever they need and want to get their story so my job actually has not changed a lot. I'm going to see this year With with the fans come back. How different is going to be. Because i'm still not sure how. That's gonna work out more on saturday after these games. But it's a yeah. I don't anticipate it being like it was in and i definitely don't think it'll be the same as it was last year where there was you know. A limited number of limited number Limited number of media folks in the press boxes and stuff like that so You know the social and stuff and it last year. A lot of the stuff like After the game the you know the post game interviews and stuff like that they were on zoom while i know this year. They're going back to. They're going back to you. Know in person. Some kind kinda. I'm kind of wary of housing. How that's gonna work. Because i know they don't want everybody up in the players face. You know what. I mean so are they. Don't have them so you know i. I'm just curious to see how giant plexiglass to hold them between to conduct interview directly into the actually got in like a bubble me. Do it works. I guess. I mean man so i got. I got a random random question back Back to the radio deal with tickets. At all. For the raiders on. I do not say my dad. And i have been looking at trying and they have been sold out. Manson's like on even know since day one of that even like going on sale. So i was not secret ways to get tickets ridiculous and i would say now even if you even if you could could get to buy take their you you'd have to sacrifice a key eight or something like that man. Those tickets are crazy. I've got four free to sacrifice saving them for this. So i'm just kidding. Anybody sincere no for yourself out for tickets for the right prize for the right seat. I guess i should say just. Just turn on all the fans. My only vans for a raiders. Ticket that she a like thirty five hundred thirty five hundred. It was a couple years when when the nostalgia of allegiance stadium wears down. It'll you know it'll be. It'll be more reasonable but yet now everything is everything is crazy. It's crazy experience that we're going to have to see him at arrowhead stadium. I guess dan. Yeah yeah i mean i sound like how's how's you've been never been to one still. Oh yeah like you said. You just got honest. I've actually that's one. I've never been to an actual nfl game of mlb of the nba. Mls a for some reason anytime. i was a kid. We went to ball game. I was doing something else. I guess i don't know that my my my wife's family is from. There lay swear by the kansas city chiefs tailgate. They'd say that's the best game. That's what i've heard ever. You know that. That's that's gone down. So that's my girlfriend. Her family said that if we when we do go to we gotta go tailgate because they said it's the best i. I went to a royals game out there and they were and at a royals game and i was like this is baseball people do. I didn't even know you actually do this baseball games. But they're nuts out here for their sports team in the jay lawrence man. There's just nonstop jayhawk everywhere. We see j. stuff like yeah. People people love them. They go crazy actually. Have a buddy that That i used to work with with the niners who is now like the Assistant athletic director with jayhawks. And like you said you've been here for about two years Than here a year almost a full year in twenty days he was. He got there before you and he he had just started a maybe about two years ago. Maybe two years ago. And when he first got there. That's snoop. Dogg came down there and he perhaps me brought like. I don't know if you heard about that story of you have talked to say they. You know dogg cami brought by strippers was like this was like their midnight. You know they the midnight midnight madness and like the students and stuff love that they had the you know alumni and always always great rich older folks. they're like what is going on. It's like eight minutes bring snoop dogg You get snoop dogg. Show invited snoop dogg. It wasn't expecting a laugh if i like did you. Did you snoop dogg. You knew what was going to happen. There snoop dogg. Got game was ready for it. Man that insularity is it's interesting. Snoop dogg lawrence kansas. Yeah i'm sure snoop blast either way. It was nothing but the smell of a strippers in we eat in building up. I guess go back to the snoop dogg thing real quick other than like sportspeople. Since you're around that whole like media in that world has there been any leg celebrity like rappers actors. Anybody that you've got like meat or had a chance to talk to. Because they are in that area everybody goes to everybody goes to sporting events especially Especially basketball also. Yeah you you you see you see us new dogs all the time jay z. Ambience say came to the finals game. At a warriors the warriors a couple years ago My my wife is a big fan of hamilton. That play all those all. Those guys always go to those They game especially in san francisco. So yeah i got a chance to meet the guys i didn't. I'm not play type person. I can't do all singing me. Neither but hamilton's pretty good. I'd say basketball. I've always said you gotta see. I was sitting there and join jordan sat down. And she's like hey we're gonna watch hamilton. I'm like all right. I'll give it a chance and we started watching that legitimate. Like wait. it's wrapping. I was like okay and watch. That looked like two hours late. I was like that was good. Yes i've seen it twice more. But anyways you know all all the actors and actresses not i guess they change but anyway in different places and so this a couple of them have gone to do so say. I watched that snow pierce a tv show in the main guy was from hamilton. The davis whatever's de bigs. Or something i think it is. He's he's he's amilton. what is going on. Check it out. Man i did. I think you know a lot more by the nearly non about about musicals man the only other one i wanna watch is the book of mormon or something from this out by guys. That one's really good. Tony's like doing it the first time visit like the the theater world was pissed when they did it because they wanna bunch of towns from other people had never done it before so badly wanted see. I've heard it's good because a man of culture yet have them had a key. Keep you updated on some other stuff to jas. Yes you know. You know everything kind of crazy cool projects you've got coming up or anything. Anything interesting about the new that i guess the another good event that i'm going to be associated with what we did last year to In we're kind of moving moving forward on it for a for the upcoming year is is again sports related with the With the nfl combine. Well they they they. Nfl combine. They usually have a certain number of guys. Maybe they'll get like a hundred guys from like ali's big time schools to go and you know they'll showcase talent leading up to the draft well again from. Abc you so. They've never done one where they invited kids from like small schools like abc. You so we actually ended up quitting. Wanna last year in birmingham alabama at uab and it turned out to be pretty successful. I think we ended up getting four guys into the nfl. None of them got drafted but like literally like right after the draft teams. Call these So we're we're going to expand on that and do it again next year That that's it. I enjoy it because it gives is that normally wouldn't get a chance to to be seen be picked up that opportunity and you know and it's in it's guys at i come from the same background as meat you know. They went to small schools in a in. It showcases the town with that that they are so I that's one thing that i really enjoy doing that. That company that puts it on is Ran by a guy named us. Pain who's He's really a really solid man. He's a he used to be. The president of the milwaukee brewers so he comes from a like a baseball background and he's doing football stuff south school that that Yeah that was. That was pretty that he just you know he. He saw the need be solid vision. And you know he needs a. He's actually doubt may manga has responsible for getting these kids. These contracts so hats off to him and you know again such such humble guy man he he just kinda you know. Put up his own money to put up his own money. Put that event. And we have what i forty forty one guys come from come from You know eighteen nineteen different schools. Abc you so ask leeann ad. That was something that was really really special especially sensor so many stories like in the nfl where you have these undrafted players that come out and make name for themselves. So y- it's always good to turn the bone to the little people to anchors. I mean especially in sports like no matter where you're from people. People can have the superior raw talent no matter where you're from kick ass in sports and be athletic in just anything really. It's always the best. See somebody that does not look like they can play whatsoever and ball out like what do we do. Run like a four to eight and that was in the forty. And that's that's not we li- live looked at the clock seven eight times like this real running again. Run it again. You gotta you gotta be. He ran a four to eight of forty way in an afford three one. Yeah yeah that's legit. Yeah so yeah. He ended up getting picked up by the cincinnati bengals. So is crazy. So i got a i mean i can sit here and to pretty much forever event. I'm holding back on my questions this way. Because like there's there's so much that goes it in so much that you've seen it. It's really unique in this industry. Because i mean sports are too weird wonderful thing that we have in the world at some. That really brings everybody together from no matter. What like like some of the atmosphere is created at the games rather than just like being on tv. I mean of course at the parties at home. sure but at the games man. Atmospheres fucking wild. Not if you can't beat that atmosphere. I mean being part of a team in coaching. I mean. I've learned so many life lessons taught life lessons just being a part of a basketball team so i always recommend any kids parents that i talked to like. You'll get your kid into sport. Even if they don't want like ask them what they wanna play then let them play force it upon them as what we do man we we put them in everything. We'll be like okay. Just try it. Yeah we do just to meet other people live. These kids need that. Because you know everybody's not social you know everybody you know and if you're playing a sport it kind of forced to because you got you have to meet your teammates and then you know. Then you're you're gonna meet from there you're going to be the folks obeyed no and then guys playing again so now that you know just from playing this once or you didn't like seventeen eighteen different people you know so chance and again like i'm a networker man. My thing is getting out and meeting people and and talk and and and get your name out there. And and i really look at it in. This is a sum that up. i've lived with since Since since college man. And i are not believe it to be true that network in his one letter away from not working. You know what i mean. I like that. It's it's something that you know it. It'll definitely help you out if you if you utilize it or just try it. You know why they were scared to try again. I'm sitting here like damn job. Fairs man teach me anything at school. Nobis said networking. I i don't know like who if that's been quote said somewhere else now. Don't even care if it was but we do have like a mindless thing. I'm making that you're getting a credit for that. Put that on. The i liked that a lot open more people will gravitate to it. And just you know it really utilized. Try to try to incorporate it in their lives man. Because you know it can. It can really help you out. You know you can really help you out like that. I i mean normally. I ask Any last piece of words of wisdom or vice. I almost feel like that was like the best. But i mean do you happen to have any more hordes of wasn't that you could give for anybody inspiring to change the elusive lucrative career as years. They i would just say honestly manages. Just main thing is a figure out what you wanna do. You know and that. That's the i think that's the hardest part about living. Life in general is is figuring out what it is you wanna do. Then once you do figure that out create a plan of how you want to give their. You know what i mean. And i do set long term goals in offset short-term goals and then when i say long term goals i mean long term attainable goals. Like you know when. I ask people like you know what are your long term goes. People wanna make seventeen million dollars and well. How do you want to. I want to be the ceo of this of this Of this company allow okay. All right it could happen. How do you plan to get there like what are some steps you to tell. I don't know you know what i mean so like i would say okay. We'll just set yourself as i get a job at that place. You won't own. You know that could be your first goal in. How do you get that job. Well you have to resume step to. You've got to meet somebody yard. Try to introduce yourself to get an interview with that with that company so again just like set like little goals to where you can see progress being made and once you see that progress being made. You can count on turnaround back. It was like oh shoot okay. i didn't i. I've already accomplished two of the things that i set out to do. Now now that goal that same farfetched is is reach. So you kinda just kinda again. Keep taking step by step. And sometimes i'll stab some not going to be straight you'll have to probably veer off to the right of veer off to lessons on but still keep you know everybody's everybody's steps could be different but as long as you are continuing to progress. Go forward then. You know you'll get there and you know maybe that maybe that seventeen million dollar goal or that. Ceo now now you know. Four years later are manager at that company. Or you've you've reached the mountain. You know maybe a million. I dunno of seventeenth solid. Now you see that it could happen and as long as you are own reis steps to kind of keep keep moving. Nothing's going to happen for you. If you don't have a plan in the you don't have goals are checkpoints to hit those goals That's that's my vice man is just a you know whatever you wanna do figure it out figure out what it is. Do you wanna do many if you if you wanna. If you want to do something in sports nuit find out find him. You know reach research. People that are in the position that you want to be a settlement. Email send cinema email. Give him a give them a call for you. Know a lot of the numbers that they ever you know. Art are easily reachable. Shoot em a call like. Hey you know i you know this is who i am. This is this is what i want to do. I'm trying to see if you got five ten minutes to talk to kind of pick your brain and guess what ninety percent of those people Yeah let's let's talk. You know that that star show that starts show starts you on the pass to get into where you want you know. And then they'll probably introduce you to somebody else that can help you get there faster you know. Don't don't be afraid to you know. Put yourself out there and really go for what you want. If you know if that makes sense yes yeah for sure. I mean it's it can come up with advice but man's great advice in his stuff that people need to hear for sure. I mean just hearing you say it. I'm like i do. I do need to do that. Sometimes we definitely just need to hear it hearing from ourselves telling it to others. Josh tells me that stuff. I'm lucky i would ever made is fine. Like i need it from other people now and i mean to ads and that it's always good to remember the five piece in the proper proper planning prevents poor performance. All right. would you just make that up. It's like okay. yeah. I seen in office once a old cartoon or something i forgot forgot whereas seen maryland's watching this new show called superstar annual whatever The spongebob poop people eat our patties. The mindlessness is coming back on that saccharin and that customer. Every time i'm happy hit a damn man and thank for giving me on with java. This has been fun absolutely multiple messages. It was a pleasure meeting you sir. Having gone and of course listeners. Stay mindless stay mindless guys. Thank you for listening to the mindless morning. Show appreciate you picking us out of the many great podcasts out there. 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