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Change Your Culture into Cultural Brilliance

A New Direction

1:00:37 hr | 2 years ago

Change Your Culture into Cultural Brilliance

"Say the game is good old Monday morning, coffee, cold. Live is one. Hi, everyone. Welcome to a new direction. My name is Jay is. I know. I have another great show. Great guests. What can I tell you? That's the way the show goes another great guest. Oh, you're going to really love Claudette rally on telling you you're going to love her. She is she's written this book, it's called cultural brilliance. I know I know you people listening to this podcast can't even see it. But it's it's it's, wow, it's called cultural brilliance, the DNA of organizational excellence, I read this book. It took me. It took me some time to read this book. But the because it doesn't seem like it's long. But I'm gonna tell you what it is. It is. So packed full of useful practical amazing information, we're going to talk to her today about this book, cultural brilliance, and I'm just I just before we get to her because we do what we always do. But I want you to be thinking ready in your head is where you are at right now. Is your business? Right. Wherever you're working right now. Could you say honestly, without a doubt? It's culturally brilliant. I'm just gonna ask you that question. I'm just gonna ask you the question is it country brilliant, and you go, I don't even know if I know what that means. That's okay. Hold onto the thought because Claudette rally is going to walk you through this. Okay. This is a step by step guide. She's going to walk you through this today. And it's gonna be awesome. It's going to be amazing. She's going to be great. So first of all for we get anything going. Gotta just give out the t shirt shout out of the week, by the way. It's hope physical therapy and training. Gotta give them a shout out. They sent me a t shirt, I promise to give every local business sends me t shirt, I will wear it. And I will do it on live and say, thank you so much and folks if you're in Raleigh area, and and you live in this area checkout. Holt physical therapy and training, I have gone there. And I love them. They're great. They're amazing group of people. So check out hope, physical therapy and training. We thank you for shirt. So let's do it. We do every week and. And let's check in with the four areas of your life. Right. Check in see where you physically mentally emotionally and spiritually. Okay. And we're gonna do that on a scale of went to ten one being miserable. Ten being great. So let's talk about physically physically where are you at today right now where you physically skilled one to ten one being miserable. Ten being great. Hi, feeling right. Are you taking care of yourself you eating right? Are you doing the things that you need to do take care of yourself physically? So that you could be the best that you could be physically. Right. That's what I wanna know. What's that number three five seven, right? The point of all this isn't to get from three to attend in one day. The point is to get from three to four right? What do you need to do? So wherever you're feeling right now, physically what do you what do you think you need to do? What can you change right now? What can you change worse? The new direction for you that you can find that. You can change yourself physically. All right. You got that? I number awesome. Second number, right? Let's talk about where you out skilled one to ten one being miserable, tending great. Where are you at mentally? Meaning what do you feeding your brain? I am so fortunate that I get to do what I do. And that as I get to read forty to forty five books year right to fill my brain. And learn it because you know, you can costly be learning and Claudette has written a great book, you know, this cultural brilliance Blerk has been a great book because it's really expand. My thoughts. It's reminding me of some things forgotten about otms razor, right whoever talks about that. Well caught at did. She talked about it, which was awesome. So what are you feeding your brain? Right. And there's two sides of her brain, we have we have that left side, which is that logical side, and we have the right side, which is the more creative side. And when I was teaching psychology classes in colleges and universities. You know, we have a tendency to forget that we need to feed both sides of our brain. And that both sides are equally important. You can't you can't just emphasize one without the other. And so what are you doing to exercise your whole brain, not just a part of it? Yeah. We have a corpus callosum that connects those two halves, and that's a whole nother story. But what are you doing to featuring? All right. And you got a scale one to ten or you're doing well, are you reading maybe you taking up a new class? Maybe you're taking up an instrument, maybe taking a foreign language, whatever what are you doing? All right. And how can you improve? All right. Those are the two numbers that you have right third number is emotionally. Where are you out on a scale of went to ten emotionally right now? Meaning. What is your emotional intelligence your motion quotient, right? And when I mean by that is do the little things in life to tend to send you over the edge quickly. Right. Are you able to control your emotions are you able to relate to other people's emotions? Are you really listening to other people's emotions and not just sympathizing with them? But really truly empathizing with them. Meaning putting yourself in their shoes that you can really understand someone else's emotions and and at the same time being able to control yourself right because we have choices emotionally, right? The the higher emotional intelligence. The Jairo motion quotient the better able we are to control our own emotions. We have choices. Life's circumstances. Do not have to make us act in a particular way. Emotionally. We can we can't control that if we Jews too. So were you out in that scale went to ten emotionally perfect? All right. So you got three numbers finally the fourth number, right? Where you at spiritually. And you say to me, what do you mean by that? Well, what I mean is. What centers you right, and that talking about being happy and that talking about I'm talking about what brings you back to center. What helps you come to peace with helps you resolve things that science can't explain what helps you do that? Right. Is that nature is at karma. Is it God? And if it and should it be God. How's that going for you? Right. And or, you know, house nature for that matter or house karma going for yet. Right. But something that I know because we all believe in something. I promise you, do you. We all believe we have faith in something that we believe that that gives us some sort of sense of peace, and how are you doing in that area? So you've got four numbers, right? You've got the physical number of the mental number the emotional number in the spiritual number and those four numbers like the legs of table. And you're trying to eat off of the table. If uneven it's very hard eat of an even table. But if they're too low, it's also hard to eat. So the goal is to raise each leg. Little by little. So that you get the table to the right level. I hope you'll do that. Well, our next guest. Who by the way is brought to you by in line business brokers and advisors, and they have been our sponsor for so long. And I am so grateful for them because they are the experts when it comes to selling a business I have several friends who sold businesses through in line. And I am telling you the experience they tell me is matched by none. They are world renown. Everybody knows in line is and we are so fortunate to have them as a sponsor, and they're going to be sponsoring today's show as well as caught at. So let me introduce you to Claudette so Claudette rally, right? Who is the cultural brilliant CEO is a change management consultant. She's a cultural designer I love that word term and an executive coach dead is passionate about helping leaders and organizations. Resolve company organizational problems in ways that honor the attendance of their cultural system and the brilliance of their people. She helps organisms create cultures. That proactively adapt to change in ways that decrease stress. Inspire learning promote organizational health who doesn't want that by the way, decrease stress. Inspire learning and promote organization is there anybody there who doesn't like any of those things. Okay. Let me go on. So for almost twenty years called that has has consulted train coached executive leaders and teams fortune five hundred companies small businesses, higher education, startups to create a proactive and innovative workspace culture and delivers outstanding results throughout all the areas of the organization. She has a tremendous background has worked with so many different places and company she isn't experienced practitioner in the five dysfunctions of a team. If you've read that book great book, by the way, she's also Myers Briggs type indicator. I m e n t j just to let you know and find out what she is to maybe later on. Maybe she'll be so bold. As to tell us what that is clad is a creative, cultural brilliant system and Hosa globally, syndicated radio show. She also teaches a course on culture and communication at Northeastern University, and is the author of the Amazon bestselling book, cultural brilliant. It's DNA organizational experience. Please get this and laze gentlemen, would you? Please welcome claw debt rally caught at welcome to a new direction. Oh, thanks J. Thanks for that introduction really to our conversation. So culture, I've said it before I will say it again, you have one whether you know, it or not you're singing, my song, absolutely. They are always in a culture at all times. Whether we know it or not. It does Volve. Does it not? I mean, you put a group of people together all of a sudden a culture revolves. And when I when I wrote my first book got social meteorology, I treated each social media platform when I was studying them from a psychological perspective. I was studying them as a culture because I said Facebook didn't design the Facebook culture, the people who used Facebook had made that culture revolve, and the business that you're in whatever business that you are you may have not set out to create the culture you're currently in. But you've created a culture. Right. Yeah. You absolutely have you whether you're aware of it or not and whether it was intentional unintentional. We are always in a culture at all times. It's one thing I giving example to organizations or individuals say think about your family of origin, and whether you like that family or not we all understood the culture of our family of origin. We understand all the unspoken norms. Right can rules higher supposed to be h-have who's going to get upset about what and organizational culture, similar in the sense that you're gonna have a set of norms for via that evolve. And why does culture go wrong? I culture goes wrong. I think the number one reason is that folks aren't aren't thinking about it. Sometimes right decades past one really sitting around thinking about the organizational culture, most of the top. So as you said it did evolve. And so sometimes didn't have all in ways that we're functional or supportive people or the business. So I think that's one piece of it. And the other piece of it is or and we're seeing more and more and more of this is coming to light organizations tolerate behavior. That's unacceptable. We're seeing more of that in the news where it's not being tolerant anymore, which is really crate. But even things like, tolerating bullies, tolerating people who are disrespectful things like that over time really wrote a culture. So how do you know, if how would you know, if you're in a bad culture? There are a few different ways. But some of the signs that I that have been pretty consistent for me. One would be certainly the the bullying disrespectful environment. Another one is if you're in a culture and notice or maybe as leader. So you're you're part of some of what's happening from the top down perspective that people are there's a result. Revolving people people are leaving all the time. And then you have to rehire that's assigned something not going on. Well, with your culture, another one is in this. This one's often surprising to people, but if you are leader or you're not a leader in the organization, but will you notice and and experiences the leaders will say, oh, you'll you have this new idea. Okay. Great. Can you give us information about it? Can you give us some data that sounds really reasonable, except if repetitively those leaders do nothing that information or data and people get incredibly frustrated in disengage? So there's a lot of disengagement a lot of frustration a lot of mistrust. Or blame or any of the things. I already mentioned those are signs that something's probably going on with your culture that you need to look at. We're talking with called at rally author of the book, a cultural brilliance, the DNA of organizational excellence, by the way, if you go to cultural, brilliant dot com. You can learn more about Claudette her team. And what they do they they are amazing. I've read through I think I think almost all the website as well as this entire book. And you'll love what they do there. It's such a unique approach, and I was blown away by everything about cultural brilliance, and what Claudette is doing there. So I really encourage you to cultural brilliance dot com to just get some more information club at one of the one of the things that as I was reading this book is I was like, okay. You know, you read a book, and you go, okay? She's gonna lay out she you come right out and say, you know, what don't don't hire me just read my book, try to read my book, and I will give you the step by step processes. And I I quickly said, oh, well, this'll be great. I'm going to start with being authentic, and then I'm gonna work my way into. Great everything, and I got through off being thank and was getting ready to do, you know, the antigen, and I went, and I went, oh, this is way need. Need? I'm pretty good. But I think I'm still going to need in this one. And I because I was like, okay this process that you've created and this is your own process. Right. Exactly. Yes. Okay. So. So let's let's kind of walk through as much as we can in the limited amount of time. We have let's walk through the process of cultural change to become cultural, culturally brilliant. Let's let's walk the listeners through that. So where do we start we're gonna if we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna change where do we start them? Start with what I call us anticipate, which is really about understanding how your culture operates, right? It's getting to that place of truth telling our culture, really operate. What's great about it with not so great about it? And as you said, I did write the book. So that folks could take take some of the ideas and apply them or take all the ideas and apply them say, it's they're interested in that. If they have the internal support in their company for it. But the we start with this assessment piece. So by the end of that assessment piece accompanying organization, it was a couple of things they have a deep understanding of how their culture operates, especially in terms of the beliefs and mindsets that are driving behavior. Right. So if you just as a quick example, if you're in a culture, where people have a mindset like nothing's ever gonna change around here. Zuber change, which is sometimes we'll be here. Right. Usually for good reason because we've learned credibly frustrated over gives change we have notable before and now nothing ever happened. So you can imagine what behaviors fall that nothing's ever gonna change. So people are engaged in the process or anything else. They just go through the motions, they might be angry frustrated, so there's a whole host of Baber. So we really get to the bottom of those types of beliefs. And then want to gather all the information organization shoes over pretty good idea of the culture, they want and need to have to support their business support their people support their bottom line. And once we have that they we meaning me in them. We have all that information. Then we move into designing. And the design piece is really about. How do we move from where we are today point a tweet we wanna be point beat at functionally what will need to happen for us to get there. And what's really cool about that part of it is that I work I work as many people in companies possible is not just as the leaders have representation from all levels all the permits all teams, and so the people come together and work on some very specific cultural issues, Davidenko fide, we've all agreed on and can't come up with a design design that solves this issue. So it's a pretty neat process to watch people go through and so they're they're brought in because they've helped create this. They've helped create their own solutions. And then stuff you've just here because sure this automatic phase. I was really because you start with this authentic face and things the inhibitors that I read where I thought was so critical to being successful in. This piece was having a psychological safe zone that you that you could be completely because I think it would be such an inhibitor when we because we can talk about authenticity all day long. Right. But if you are if you do not have a safe place that I can truly say, regardless of where I am in the chain of command that I can be honest and say. Look, you know, the CEO's dictator any any believes us, right? It's got to be that safe. Or that's the way I feel even if it's not true at least being able to see the talk about the importance of that. Yeah. It's critically important. Thanks for mentioning that. So we have most organizations were starting culture work. Do not have what Geos referring to psychological safety, which simply means that you an organization or a team is safe for interpersonal risk-taking. So if you share an idea, you share in popular opinion, you wanna go a direction different from everyone else, or whatever the case may be you make mistake, you know, that that you're not gonna experience retribution. You're not going to be stabbed in the back of Passover. Something doesn't mean you get feedback about what to learn do differently. But so that's really what that is. So yeah, organizations don't have them place. So what I work with on is creating what I call a cultural safety zone, which is the precursor to that psychological safety. And it's really saying for the. Purposes of our work together on culture. How can we make this safe ground rules? Are we going to be interacting? You know, what's important here? What do you value? How will you know that it saves etcetera? We come up with this cultural safety to try to create as you were saying an environment, which people can are more likely to share their experiences. Right. Their own Trues because without that. We're not gonna get very far in this process. No, you're you're right. Because I think one of the things I have run into. And I know that you have because we wouldn't have written about it. Yeah. Is that people in organizations can be reluctant to be authentic and honest because they're afraid that there's going to be some sort of retribution for their honesty. Yes. And usually with very good reason that fate of that. Yeah. Absolutely. So I know you've moved into this design phase. So one of the things that I when I was reading this book. I I really was hoping that you would talk about and maybe and maybe removing. In that direction and might be ruining this is this whole idea of contextual emergence. Sure. Absolutely. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But I just was like that whole that whole conceptual framework that you put together with context. Contextual emergence. I thought was so unique unique to this whole process because the it fits right somewhere between that authenticity area. And before we get to design because we're denting, right? Certain structures and habits me years. Right. So good talk about sorry. Good talk about that a little bit. If you don't be to. Thank you so contextual merges. Right. So this is right. This is how we need take all the information gathered through onto city or assessment before we go into any sort of design. We actually look at this. I call it a transition, but we look at all the information that's been gathered. And it's called contextual merging because it's really just looking at what is emerging literally in the context created. And so, for example, I create an entire document. And it has on it all the things that are going well in the culture, right where where the cultures brilliant, right and all the things that are blocking the culture from going forward. And then and this'll be mindsets. And behaviors and structures, and this is on formation that's been gathered from the organization, so this isn't from me at all. And so we'll get to organizations we'll sit down with my gosh could see her mindsets are driving a lot of our behaviors conceal a behavior driving how certain system structures working. So they actually did to see how what they're doing. What they're saying what they're believing all of that is impacting the other. And that's what that's the discovery process from that in that contextual emergence peace. And it's really also about people understanding transition works listening the role of mindsets. So there's a big educational piece there too for a lot of people at least in getting what that's about. But there's something really interesting happens. When organization gets have a piece of paper that says these are all the mindsets guys came up with these are the behaviors and negative see that in real time. I see I loved this. Because I don't think people understand how in you bring this up brilliantly in the book, by the way. And by the way, love your outline of the book, you gave us definitions up front, and then you re you gave it to us again and again to kind of like really drive into our head brilliance. And also, you know, antigens I wanna talk about that a little bit because I love the whole idea antigens, I really do. But I I thoroughly thought this whole idea of emergence with some point because our belief systems control so much of what we do in a culture. And and whether it's individually what you believe or what you believe corporately. Right. The group think of what the culture is. You is so critical to the success or failure. I believe any company and and. So when you started pointing that out like, oh, man, nobody talks about mindset, nobody talks about belief system. We talk about behavior. Listen, I studied under Skinner's last student. So I'm the last of the baby. But, but, but we, but we don't talk about how those belief systems influence and impact and culture. And it's just so we don't get real about it and it, and it's a heart. It's hard. And once you have a mindset, I'm sure you could tell me, right. It's hard to break. It. And it's hard to challenging break it. But once you're a company organization is aware of their fairly collective mine's. A lot of cases. It it doesn't mean it presto change there are they change it. But that level of awareness allows them to really start thinking and reflecting on how that is driving the behavior. They usually don't want right. Of course, the mindset of really positive, you know, we keep their working. They they they produce great behavior of the paper that's desired award in the organization, but we don't talk enough about. I mean, there are people talk about beliefs and mindsets. But a lot of times young we're talking about organizations. Okay. What other skills and behaviors person needs to change? Exactly. We're talking about. What are their beliefs? Right, right. Yeah. We're talk with called at Raleigh. She's author of this bustling book, cultural brilliance, the DNA of organizational excellence, a fabulous book. She's being brought to day by inland. Business brokers and advisors. Are you a business owner at some point you're going to need the services of an experienced business broker selling your business is a huge decision. Not a big one eight Hugh to make sure you build your deal team starting with experts at n line business brokers and advisors. You can learn more online at n line dot com. That's E N L I G and dot com, and they are bringing us called rally and her brilliant book. Unintended cultural brilliance, and we're talking with her and we're walking through some of the steps of making you're making your company, culturally brilliant, and we've talked about authentic. We're talking about culturing emergence for slowly moving into design. I I I gotta tell you, and I don't know where the best places to fit this in right because I don't know if we should wait to fit it in or we should talk about it now. But I so wanna talk about I wanna talk about antigens. I really do. Because when you brought up the term, and you defined it. I went whole. Wow. So let's define it for find for the listener. What are antigens? Why is it so important, and what do we do with it? And where does it fit into the system? Yes. So this this whole idea so a couple of years ago. A mentor of mine was telling me about this idea of actions. And she said, I never heard of them. She said after Jin's are herbal substances like jonesing remark on, you know, many many other things and they helped she had taken him on point in. They help your body regain its health rebalance system, handle stress better things like that. And she said what if they redacted cultures? Wow. That's really interesting. So I showed up in the book. So clearly, I I ran with it and released about it in. It's it is. It's a really interesting idea about what you know, when we so, you know, right? This is actually after contextual merges the next part of his on this adapters designed, but it's really bringing to life. This idea that we can create and design me for we design and create a culture that can rebalance under stress the can rebalance after maybe there's an extra threat. That's unexpected. Maybe in an leader leaves on expectedly, you know, things like that. We can also also create a culture that anticipates in response to change differently. So you mentioned emergency earlier, right, which I love also. So when we start to notice that something might emerge in those usually subtle signals something might new my emerging in an organization and a really common sign is seemingly out of nowhere. There's conflict. Maybe there's the team that's been working beautifully for a long time early fall enough. And then all of a sudden seem there's conflict will usually to sign that something needs to change revolt. Right. Something new is emerging. So it's a simple example of as a process of actually taking folks through. A cultural design that will become adoption that will be able to adapt and produce as needed throughout life of the organization. So so this this whole thing for full there's three things that the come as seem in the book this adapted Jones, by the way, I mispronounced it. Sorry, I was thinking about. For that. I meant app adapted because but there's this whole idea that you there's a theme that keep that you keep referring to over and over and over again, and in it's the whole idea that decrease stressed inspire learning and that we need to what's third one. Oh, promote organization. Organizational health, it's excess and I thought to myself, I was just I'm consulting this company, and I would just and I said to him I said, you know, what I'm just finishing this book. I said everything that we do everything that you do in this company. I think it really comes down to those three questions for you. I sing. Is what we're doing what you're about to change what you're about to do right now. Is it decreasing stress? Is it inspiring learning, and is creating organizational health, I and I said, I think I think if you're telling me whatever change you're about to make that it's going to do that. Then I said then it's worth thinking about. But if but if it's not, and you keep reiterating this in this, and I kept saying that the so it's so brilliant because if you can, and you know, we we know comes razor, right? The simple. Right. The simplest the simplest answers, generally, the right and correct one. And and and yet I looked at that. And go man, if I could just get my company to just consider everything they do into those three things is going to decrease stress is going to inspire learning and is going to enhance organizational health. Wow. Well, I just I was it was a well moment for me. I mean, you gave me a wow year out of cultural brilliance. Right. Thank you. Yeah. Well, it's grit. It is if you use those three questions, and you run everything through it. It's really really interesting. What you find out right at how? Yeah. And the comes razor simplest simplest simplest Lucians. Usually the best in correct one to paraphrase it my live by that. I have a corollary of that I made up which is complexity is not a sign of intelligence. I find a lot of organizations it isn't. I also live in the greater Boston area where we have as Renault's a lot of educational institutions just one or two there's just one hundred to harbored by center. Yes. Some of those I've done some work in some of those are really fascinating amazing people. And and there's this drive toward complexity Rhodri. And so we don't know let's make it simple. You're not smarter because you wrote an eighty three page manual. Love that. Okay. So let's so we've gone through the authenticity. Phase. We're done cultural merges we are into the adapted Jin design phase right now. So we're in this design. What are we designing? Ultimately, ultimately, designing solutions to cultural things in the culture that working. Well, so what I'm typically doing is by the end of we've gone through this contextual merchants. Right. Right. By the end of it. We've identified maybe they're five six areas that need need some work. Right. Could be on communication productivity. It could be around decision making. It's usually very specific to the organization I found in. So we have the set of we have the set of five or six questions or issues. And then each usually what happens each one is assigned to what I call design team and the design team in the details of snow go through this morning. Tale of design team goes through a process of of coming up with the solution. Teach one of these cultural issues, and it's you know, it uses some things called things like design thinking us a lot. I do a lot with systems systems thinking so to help people understand that does not just communication issue or behavior. It's a whole system so hot is it thread through the whole organization. So I use that to help people see more holistically what's really going on. So they can much better solve the issue. So those are the types of things by the end of it. We have a set of we have a set of designs, and we get feedback on work with into all of that. But that that's where we end up with by the end of that phase before we go into the design integrity piece. Talked with Claude at rally she is author of this bestselling book cultural brilliance, by the way, it's available on Amazon you favorite bookstore. If they don't have it on the shelf, tell them. Hey, why don't you have cultural brilliance here because it's that brilliant? Okay. Get this book. And by the way, if you're in management, if you're not in management, if your CEO or not a CEO this book is going to be tremendous tremendously, helpful to you. You're going to read it reread. It you're going to be parts of this where you're gonna go. Well, what did I just read and you're gonna read it again? And it's just such a great book. And and if you're looking for, you know, because I know so many of you that watched the show and listen to the show, you're always looking for what what's what's my summer read, you know, because you like to grow and learn cultural brilliance should be on that list by caught rally. This should be one of your summer reads that you put that you go, okay? You know, while we're doing Bakke shin. This is what I need to be thinking about in terms of changing, my organization changing what how we're managing changing, our culture, and we need to be taking a really close look at being culturally brilliant. And and if you really wanna learn more information about cultural brilliance, you can go to cultural, brilliant dot com and learn more about Claudette and her team and all the things that they do because it's it's amazing. So and I'm telling you, it's going to be so helpful for you. It's going to be life changing. It's going to be business changing for you as well. And so I really do encourage you to read this book. So Claudette we gone through designs we come through authenticity emerging design where do we go to next? Transitional point call Zayn, integrity, and that simply where we try out some of these designs prototype. So rather than going right into planning. And implementation we make sure with paper works in reality. And so tried out with the team a couple of teams, we do some different things. And then we get feedback on it. And we make sure these designs have lodged coherent all of the things that Zion should have. So that we that's were really riveting it and just making sure it works. So that's little. Out. But we need to be a here comes the experimental psychologist in me. Okay. Right. Here comes right? So. One of the things when of the things that I thought was also brilliant in your book is we're talking about prototyping. Okay. We've we've put all this together here all the ideas throwing them on the table. Now, we're going to take and we're going to we're going to unleash this on a particular section of our company. We're I gonna do the whole company was going to unleash a section of the coming to see how it kinda folds. Maybe maybe we unleash a part of this to the whole company, but we're going to prototype at some way, we're going to do this experiment, but we have to be a little cautious because right because I mean, you know, we could get so caught up with who this is it. This is the answer. This is the only thing we have to do then. Right. I mean, there's some cautions that you need to take when you doing the prototype. Yeah. I mean, I think you're you want open transparent. Right. This is the this is what we are team. A or b right is gonna take on running a meeting different way or whatever needs to happen there with or they've designed communicating differently. And then you have you. They do it for specific amount of time usually fairly short like three weeks or something. Right. And you're getting back along the way how's this working, which we change? What do we need to interrupt? What do we need tweak cetera and getting feedback? So from that perspective, right? We're not gonna put any kind of design in place that would really disrupt business that would that would need to be looked at differently. But we're looking at things that would go to work and enhance what's happening or they might be fairly neutral. Right. They're not gonna do anything. That's going to hurt a customer relationship or anything like that. So yeah, you have to use some judgment right in terms of what your prototyping and how it's working for. Sure. Will because I think what happens is, right. We get so in Namur d- with approach. Type. Oh, look what we've done right. Which is. I think why you say, okay. Make sure that you have decided how long are you going to run the prototype? Don't because I could see I can see this happening that the prototype is going so well that they don't stop running it and. I could see or it's it's gotten out of control. And they don't know how to stop it would ever the case. Because the thing is I know we don't do. We don't prototype. We have a tendency to go and we've got all the answers. We don't need a prototype. We're just gonna unleash this. But there's a there's a dancer, right? Oh, there's an answer danger. Because you really don't know what we have all experienced. It looks great on paper. But a reality, right? We forgot five things. That's what the point of the prototype is so yeah, I have a lot of framers around them are on agreement. How long it's gonna last own agreement about how what kind of seed Becker gonna get when we're going to get the feedback. So it's not on. I'm still usually part of this part of the process. So we're not gonna be getting or if I'm not somewhere means can go forward with this right to your point. You don't wanna let it run on you want to be very careful and deliberate about when you're getting feedback. How long it's going missing being involved. And then you stop it and say, okay, what did we learn? What works. What doesn't? So there's a lot of deliberateness around the prototyping for sure. So this is this is the part of the process, I think really the whole the whole cultural brilliance process that you describing here is really kind of that automatic thermostat in your house where you set the temperature, and then you have to keep adjusting it, you know. So if you want the temperature at seventy two, and it's really cold heat comes on if it's really hot the the cooling comes on. And I feel like that's kind of your system here is that it's just a constant feedback loop throughout the whole entire system. Which which is I think for some companies, I think this is hard for them to grasp this the constant feedback. Right. Because they because some companies don't have the patience for this. Right. Right. Right. Right. I mean. Early. But the CPAC piece it's a lot of it. I know what you're saying the first couple of phases of the process. It's almost built into our doing it right to the Bax just part of what we're gathering feedback or getting into this part of the entire process. So it's baked in. Right prototyping piece of feedback. It's much more. Not delivered before. But it it's it's a separate event away. Right. Right. What was that the feedback? You don't know the truth? It comes back to us. Just today exam. You make good on the wrong direction. Right. Right. Because the thing the thing is is that the offense ity peace throughout all of this is never lost. Right. I mean, regardless of where we're at in this process that authentic piece is like literally the foundation of everything that you're talking about in cultural brilliant, at least in my opinion, it might. Yeah. Because I because it's like, you could go, okay. We're past the authentically pace place. We don't need that. We don't need that safe zone anymore that the can't happen. It can't happen. No. You're not done with authenticity. You you continue to need to be authentic continue to need to, you know, this is an iterative process. So even if you go through the all the phases to the annual in you, okay? A lot of changes made this don't well. This is good. We learned a lot positive experience. Something else is gonna come up in your culture. You may not go through the process such deep way. Right. Might be a quicker thing a quicker it ration- of it. But something else will happen where you need to take a look again at okay, how are we doing? What's happening in our culture? Exactly talking with quote at rally, author of this bestselling book, a cultural brilliance, the DNA of organizational excellence fabulous book and were walked she's walking us through literally the book is what she's doing? But trust me. This is this is like the cliff notes of the cliff notes of the cliff notes version this blood that is true. I don't know the other way to say this. But. Literally three it's like literally bought the cliff notes. Okay. This is the cliff notes of the cliff notes. Oh, you bought that went? Well, this is really the cliff. Is what we're doing today because it's not nearly it's not nearly giving you the information that this book is going to give you and not nearly what you're gonna learn. If you go to cultural, brilliant dot com, and by the way, this book is available on kindle as well as as well as other formats, and so I really really really encourage you to get this book. And I've got it in both ways kindle, and I also have remolding the paperback as well. And so I really really encourage you. Okay. We've gone through the prototype. We like what we see Claudette s-. Then what? And we are in what I call a we're integration, which simply means planning and implementation, so we had to figure out how are we going to? How are we going to implement these changes in these designs? And so that's some of that is fairly pragmatic. Right. I I've used planning teams different things in different organizations, but you're going to you. It's not just me doing that. You're gonna get people to some some never people to come together. And really say, okay, we have these. No, we need to decide plan out and sequence and figure out how we're gonna do this. So that planning team will work on that really one of the key pieces to this working is that the new behaviors and mindsets and behaviors that have been covered along the way in this process. Need those new mindsets need need invaders need to be the basis of how this plan is implemented. Right. So so often we see people use their own mind since behaviors to implement a plan with new mindsets behaviors are. I know they do that on they're not aware of it. But of course, it doesn't really make sense aware of it. So it's really how do we come from this place of how to think act differently, and that's the key? That's why call the wear integration that self awareness is the key to this to this working plan working. So. Well, he just had this conversation today. And that is this whole idea of cultural wariness, right? Yeah. It's it's so I we just we just pass over it so easily wherever were at wherever we work, whatever relationship where in whatever group that were a part of. I don't care if it's profit nonprofit, if you're volunteer. We just I feel like we're so unaware I just I just really feel like we're unaware of ourselves. But I feel like even further unaware of the culture, I feel like we're just not very intentional about that. And and and this whole idea of, you know. You know, we've really got to pay attention. Right. And and you talk, by the way, you talk a lot about really really listening. And you a lot about are. You really listening? No, no. I don't mean. Just hearing are you really really listening in are you are you really? And I think it all plays hand in hand with awareness because I don't think if you're not really listening. You can't be really aware. Yeah. You can't there's no way right until I talk about listening a lot because it's really it's it's the foundation as you said, a cultural awareness part of the foundation, we can assess them can do all those things. That's really important Shalish the leaders in this applies. Anybody also being till I call the book listening to what you hear. So listening to what you actually hear not what you wanted to hear hope to your which are those are different kinds of listening. I I looked your example. I think it was urine choir and the choir director says to you, basically, are you? I really need you to listen to what you're singing. Right. Are you hearing are you really hearing? Are you really listening to what you're singing, and what's going around you? And and somebody who is hacking -sition like myself, it's really really critical in music that if you're going to sing really you need to listen, it's not just about belting out the notes, and in the same thing is true here when we talk culture and listening within a culture. So now where we at we we've gone through we've gone through this where where we at now. What's what's the next steps? What do we do? Yeah. Right. This very final transitional point, and it's called social capital capital transition, and this way, take we step back assess what how's the culture belts? And what have you learned this could help your culture statement? So it's it's more of a reflective piece. Right. And it's really looking at what what did the organization? Learn I think learning's important than we also ask questions about business outcomes. Right. Because we're also do we change culture colleague of mine of the other day? We should be looking at our culture and changing our culture because we went to improve our business achieve goals, and you know, could beat Chris profits increase their bottom line, not just because cultures. Nice thing to do. I appreciate it history. Forward nece on it. Right. We don't just trusting culture. So people feel better that's part of it. But we also do it because it's going to improve your business. So social capital. That's where we're looking at business and learning what worked in what didn't. And so we're taking stock of all that in. That's actually that information gets used usually to see then what's next in the cultural. Evolution. In in. This is where I think you point out at this point in the book, I think this where you have to be again, constantly aware have a bunch of self awareness where the old culture mindsets may try to creep back in. Yeah. You know? And that's something. Yeah. I probably emphasize more that it is almost always the case that the old aspects of the culture, not long before even social capital transition will show up. Right. They'll show up in unexpected ways. Maybe during a meeting, maybe I noticed they often will start showing up as we get to the planning phase implementation face because then it's getting whoa. The rivers gonna hit the road union actually doing this. Now, you're really implement something. Void right. A that's yeah. So I'll start to see like, you know, do old parts of the culture resistance activity, whatever it is uncertain show up. And so what we have to do is just observe is. Not interesting wonder, if this are the old culture what's happening here. What are you experiencing what's going on? And so we talk that through and it it's another awareness piece in that after a while, you know, that will or stop having. By the we're talking with Cody Raleigh and author of bestselling book, cultural brilliance and the DNA of organizational excellence, she's brought to you today by in line business brokers in advisors. Listen, inline business broken and advisors have literally. And I'm not making this up. Folks, literally helped thousands thousands of clients in the sale and purchase of businesses. I can't make this up when it's time to sell your business just contact them. They are amazing. It's inline brokers in advisors are sponsoring today's show and Claudette rally, and we are so grateful to them for doing that. Just learn more at N line dot com. That's he N L I G N dot com. And we are so grateful to just nail in his group of professionals in inline business brokers. Advisers first of all I monitoring the show today. So one of the things that you say in the book. And I was like, ooh, she waited till the end to bring this up and that was the savvy to lure right that. Oh, yeah. Right. And you kinda give it this little here's what you do Claudette. And this. You kinda subtly right? I'm gonna I'm gonna wait. And then hearing him blast pages of the book. I'm gonna go by the way, you may wanna pay attention to the saboteurs. Want to sabotage the culture. Get a little bit of give a little bit of talk about the Sabah tours, and the Sabbath that people who may want to sabotage the culture. So it's you know, it's interesting because there are folks who maybe sabotage not media-conscious, right? They're necessarily doing it, no knowingly. And of course, the people that set out to reminding complete clarity. And there's a little bit of sometimes. But I think it's really. Senators so some of the other salvatore's that are are not always people that I've noticed are things like. Pulling back from appointing conversations Mitchell cars, courage, right? That can sabotage what you're trying to do willing back from those tough conversations. You know, also really leaders. It's really really important leaders have cleaner standing of how they're impacting the culture as something the book, cultural through sixty process and Israel that can end up being Abitur of everyone's walking around and damper has no closed on so to speak, right. And no one saying anything than that that that could be that could sabotage the entire process. People need to leaders some feedback. You know, everyone has spots later can't know everything. So that that is another potential savage were of the process, and I think sometimes feeling like oh my gosh. This is really hard because usually parts that are this is really hard. Have you done the wrong saying and remembering that, you're going really deep temporarily or not gonna stay in the depths of this culture work this assessment, though, these deeper conversations you're gonna come back up into into a more kind of Florence normal. But just you know, regular rhythm. But when people are really nervous when things go deep in in. Thanks, go wobbly that can be in other place for our savage poor could shut up because just so uncomfortable. Yeah. Yeah. So so one of the things that you did in the last portion of the book, and you saved you saved it to the end. And it was to me. It was kind of like the bonus of the book. All right. Okay. This is what? So you talk about the culturally brilliant leader, and it was at the end of the book, and I went she gave me bonus content. How dare she give me bonus content. I wasn't ready for bonus content. Because just when I thought the book just when I thought the book was about to be over because you refuse to give me an epilogue. You gave me emergence instead of epilogue. Right. I get oh, no. We're gonna talk about the culturally brilliant leader. Well, who what is the country brilliant leader? So the custody brilliant leader. Yeah. A little bonus material. Someone who is a lot of ways to describe it. There's someone who can really tune into what I call the emotional energy of of the culture, some other people call emotional culture. But it's really it's tuning into some of that what is really going on beneath the surface until its leaders going through the process. We just talked about they know a ton by the end of it until their cultural brilliant leader is able to do that. I think of them as somewhat of a cultural whisper like dog was for her Swiss for, and they're also people who are willing to be really social where notice that you cannot your culture will not change unless you change grows later. It is not those people over there that needs to change its as well. So it's it's that level of tuning in self-awareness. And harnessing what I call the emotional energy of the organization. I talk about that in the book that how do we actually, you know, harnessed that we see leaders do that naturally? They're not even taught how to do it probably that galvanize everybody, they inspire them. Right. They motivate them, and they have that quality. So we're talking about some of that. But we're also talking about that deeper tuning in. So that a leader say, oh, you know, I have really been noticing that this particular team. Seems very disgruntled. And I don't know why. But I go talk to let me find out some information a navy that leader year ago wouldn't even noticed because they were more focused on making decisions taking action the things needs to do. I think it's easier. Sometimes it's so much easier for the leader to just decide they're going to take immediate action rather than ask the question. Yeah. And I and I thought well, you know, if we could just stop for a moment as a leader in wherever we're at. I don't care where we're at as in in leadership. What if we stop instead of going, I got it make this change? Now. Listen, admittedly there times when you just have to do that. But, but there are more times than not where if you will just if you could just listen a little bit again here, we come back to what you said about listening. And I think that's the thing about the cultural brilliant leader, the cultural brilliant leader is not only self-aware. She is a listener in his really paying attention to the pulse of the culture. And rather than rather than jumping in and making demands and becoming a dictator. They understand the importance of the culture that this is what polling from your book. And I may be wrong. A correct me. If I've missed the point, but but this is where I see. See that going, and I and I loved it. And I went I want to be more of a culturally brilliant leader. That's that's. And because I think that was the thing that made it more personal for me L. Right. Right. Right. Because. Even even though I do coaching, and even though I do consulting, and that type of thing, I think there was also part of it. And this is what was so beautiful for me about your book was then it got personal. What that's it. Yeah. That's a really interesting point. Right. It kind of at the Antic. It's personal really thinking about yourself as leader. Yeah. It really personal. So I wanna say thank you for that. So so Claudette here's what I do. Because believe it or not been on almost an hour. So. Has flown by it has really flown by very fast. So what I ask every guest here on new direction is the show's called a new direction because we help people find a new direction in their life or their career or their business. And when I would like to ask you to do is if you could give people one something that would help them find a new direction in terminal brilliance. What would be that one thing that you would leave them with? Yeah. Thanks for that. So we touched on a little bit of it. But it's I call becoming cultural detector, this isn't a, but similar ideas are so really if you're if you know, you want to go in a new direction in your culture start by nickleby leader, you could beat any any level company organization is really start listening right in listen to everything listen to what you hear try to drop your alibis assumptions, try to drop those and be really really observant in non judgmental way. And just notice right without judgment or assigning. Meaning just notice what happens when you listen observe that way about people in how they interact operations and processes like that you're gonna you're gonna gain a wealth of information that you might just been overlooking simply because you're busy not too particular way. Beautiful. Her name is quote at Raleigh fuse bestselling author of this book, cultural brilliance, the DNA of or. Excellence in need to get it. Amazon bookstore. Get at checkout, cultural Burland dot com. You know, me I put the book I put her her face. And I put all the information on the J Izzo podcast website, and you will be able to see read and check in. So you just want to click on the link. Don't wanna remember it. Just go to the podcast, you'll see it. It's going to be called cultural brilliance, and how to change your culture is probably going to be the name of it and be culturally brilliant, and so make sure that you check that cut it, please stay with you for a second folks show, right? 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Its getting harder and harder to stop disinformation

The Big Story

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Its getting harder and harder to stop disinformation

"The president cited a report by a far-right media outlet, tweeting the protest or could be an anti FA provocateur. Stay safe and lock and loaded. That's the warning in this facebook. Post made Tuesday afternoon that claimed Antiga had three busloads of members ready to hit neighborhood. Police say rumors are circulating about threats that are not credible. Where are you hearing this on this? I guess online rumors started spreading on social media this week of White Supremacists, coming into Bristol, Mrs Downtown Lane with rumours of ANTIFA showing up. So everybody is out with their own firearms. Just make sure that nothing goes down. So, we've been down this road before. You know how this scope. A huge story takes over the news cycle. Right away. A frauds scam artists disinformation. Flares up. and. There are the usual reasons for this from cloud to politics, too just to mess with people but This time when the news cycle is dominated by anti-racist protests that are demanding justice for black man killed by the police. And those protests are being met head on with more violence from law enforcement. All of a sudden misinformation becomes really dangerous on the ground. Right now. This is happening seemingly in every town and city in North America. And there are so many false claims floating around, but it's impossible to Cuba. Some of those false claims are coming from a please, and yes, from the president. When that happens. The fake stuff on social media goes. Way Beyond social media, and it starts to become dangerous on the streets. Dangerous enough to perhaps be a spark. That ignites a powder keg. That is America right now. If bad actors can use social media posts to put real people in the streets with guns. How do you fight back with Internet? debunking and when the debunks get a few dozen shares after the original fraud gets tens of thousands. How do you get the truth? How can we learn to tell the real from the fake for ourselves? Because, nobody's going to do it for us. There's too much of it. No matter how hard they tried and today, we'll talk to somebody who is really try. I'm Jordan. Heath Rawlings and this is the big story. Jane Davidenko is a senior reporter with Buzzfeed News. She focuses among other things on disinformation, but I imagine right now. It's all this information. Hey, Jane, hi! Thanks for having me no problem. I'm going to start because I'm going to ask you how things are going and I'm going to introduce that Bhai. Reading back to you. The tweet that you wrote that prompted us to reach out to you for this episode. I in the middle of I, think the second or third night of protests and the tweet is quote. An absolute disinformation shit show holy. yeah, that checks out. How bad is it? If there compared to other things you've covered, which have also been bad luck. This has been an absolutely welding year. DISINTERMEDIATION overall It started out with the corona virus and there have been has been a lot of disinformation surrounding that in the first place. That disinformation didn't really go away. But what we're seeing now is a global movement for black lives. Matter witch also has a huge audience in a huge amount of disinformation on top of it, which is really what prompted the tweet? These are both giant global events, and it is really tricky to sift through the real information and the false information around them. Is the disinformation about things coming from the same places? Are they shifting what they post about, or is there a distinct you know? Group of people spreading corona virus disinformation, another distinct group spreading black lives matter in protest us, Info. So right now we're in a situation where it's a little bit of both and with the black lives matter disinformation. We're still in early days. We're trying to figure out how that miss and does information spread? But it's going to be a little while before we have conclusive research of the sort of social media. paths that talk, but we do know those paths with the corona virus. Alongside the sort of drifters who are selling vitamins that we saw there were people maliciously spreading bad information, and we are seeing some of those people in to change the narrative around the black lives matter protests as well. One striking example was reported by NBC News last week in showed that people on the far right have. Attempted to impersonate antifascist activists on twitter, and we also know that people on the fire eight and white nationalist groups have used the corona virus. As A. As a narrative, jumping off point for false information as well. What's the difference. Between, the two in terms of disinformation, when one I guess, revolves around you know medical knowledge and science and stuff that maybe you can sort of prove online, and the other one is just while this is what's happening here. And how do you combat? Yeah, it has been. It has been really tricky, and I think that as far as comparisons between the two different events in the disintermediation about around them. we need to be a little bit careful. So WHAT THE CORONA VIRUS! What we saw was a lot of early confusion about what the virus is in the first place. At the beginning there was some sort of conflicting public health information, and there were people who were selling miracle cures. None of that really applies to black lives matter protests. The black lives matter protests the disinformation that we've seen. In the misinformation that we've seen and the the distinction there being deliberate or accidental spread a false information. I was GONNA ask about. Yeah Is more photo and video based so in order to keep police accountable for their actions. We're seeing a lot of activists film and take photographs of what's happening. During the protests on the ground, and sometimes those photos and videos get taken out of context whether that's deliberately or accidentally. And, that's really the large chunk of what we're seeing right now and what? We're what we're trying to dig further into just so I can get it clear when you're when you're talking about seeing this video and stuff on the ground. Is this mostly in the US? Are we seeing some of it in Canada's? Well we do focus primarily on the US. Because of the size of the US protests a lot of the information that we have about the. Protests is coming from the US but I. do want to be really careful here and see that just because the size of Canada's protests are smaller just by way of the. Population comparisons. That doesn't mean that can't Canadians are not vulnerable to miss her disinformation. I have not a hard chance to personally dig into a Canada based missing disinformation, but what we do know about the information environment in Canada as we also have sort of hyper partisan political out outlets that have been loose with information in the past, and also we know that social media is borderless, so whatever's happening in the US will impact social media in Canada. Canada! Canada's well one of the things I really want to ask you about Because it, it fascinates and terrifies me, and all this is the fake information that seems designed to drive real life. Confrontations you know I've seen a couple of news stories where our residents of small towns you know, showed up and lined the street holding their guns because they'd. They'd been told via facebook that you know. Buses of anti fascist anarchists were coming to their town, and so there was a peaceful black lives matter march, and they're marching past you know people holding ar fifteen and they were asked about it afterwards, and they said we only came out like this because we were told, we had to defend our town, so this is. Is the ANTIFA or antifascist activists narrative has been in development for a very long time I've been covering this information since November twenty sixteen, and even then when we had mass protests whether it was around the women's march or any issues that came up in two thousand eighteen. We saw false claims about anti fascist protesters sort of hitting the streets. And aiming to cause violence. As a matter of fact, I remember pretty distinctly. Fox News running segment on and anti-fraud revolution is how they put it, which which never happened, so it's really important to understand the context here and the sort of longevity of this narrative. And we are absolutely seeing got narrative strike fear into people on social media. There was one post the screen shot of which was going around. This was opposed to a facebook group of somebody who created an account claiming to be affiliated with Antique. Which of course there's there's really no way of verifying it sort of saying we will cause violence, and we will cause violence against white people specifically that goes directly against all the messaging of the protests and the protesters who have really called on peaceful demonstrations and not violent ones, but that doesn't mean that people are not falling for this false narrative. One of the most striking things that we've seen is. A little bit complicated, so bear with me here, but it has to do with piles of bricks People online thought were being left around so that protesters are encouraged to sort of grab a brick and throw it. At property or other people doing damage. My colleague Craig Silverman dug into. A lot of those claims and shown that the piles of bricks were left. either from construction sites, or had perfectly reasonable explanations of why they were there the primary narrative around this on social media. which was? False is that it was police who were leaving bricks for the protesters. But that narrative got flipped on its head when the white. House tweeted and posted to facebook video that they have deleted. Maybe an hour or two after posting, saying that it was anti-fascist demonstrators leaving bricks for peaceful protesters. There was no evidence for the cleans mead in that video, and as a matter of fact, one of the clips of the used was already debunked. But it really shows how the same imagery has. BEEN CO opted to fit different types of narratives and really sort of strike fear into people. As as they try to figure out what's going on on the ground from posts that are being spread online I've seen screen shots and I. Don't know again if these are these are real or not of. facebook invites for protests at the same time in the same place and one of them will be you know March for Justice for George? Floyd and the other one will be like marched to defend our town from anti-fascists and. Like they've been made by the same person like. They're designed to Lourdes opposing groups of people out there. Matter organizers have definitely warned protesters about fake posters. They're seeing online. and. That's an issue that we saw especially early on when the protests US wide were just gearing up. It's really tricky to sort of. figure out who might be behind these or the ultimate goal until we have a chance to really investigate this, but it's pretty safe to say that any protests that are calling for violence are going against the messaging of the movement, which again calls for it to be a peaceful movement when there's so much going on both with corona virus and these protests and you know as you said the misinformation and disinformation comes in a flood. How do you choose which are the most important to debunk which ones you go after? And how you kind of focus your energy because there's only a few of you folks doing this work and there's millions of posts. For us. We look at spread in popularity. One thing that we worry about what is. Legitimizing posts got might have. Gone unnoticed, so we wouldn't debunks something that has only has only been shared by ten people. Or that doesn't have a wide audience. We both using our own tools To figure the spread of something on social media, but we also take tips from people who came across something on social media and are sort of trying to figure out whether it's real or falls. And those tips are generally pretty helpful, because it means even if we're not seeing something on social media, if a handful of people have independently sent me the same post that bears more investigation and that community community health dot crowdsourcing has been incredibly helpful in understanding what we need to address in this moment. What kind of questions people have in this moment? How do you handle and touched on this a bit ago? But when some of this information is coming from theoretically trusted sources. I mean you mentioned the White House? We've also seen news releases by the police in various us. Cities that are immediately contradicted by video evidence and now much trouble. Does that cause? A with our process of debunking disinformation. It's really important to understand that what we're looking for is either evidence that confirms what we see or repeats what we see, and as a matter of fact, the black lives matter protests. We created three different categories for information that we find online. One is unverified with means that we're not able to find evidence, either confirming or denying the post is claimed one is misleading which means the information in the post or video or image is real, but maybe taken out of context or Misrepresented and one is false which is when we have exact evidence to unimpeachably say white you're looking at is not true. And those categories have been really helpful for us. Because instead of sort of relying on what officials tell us we try to look for other angles of photos and videos that are taken to sort of figure out what is going on. We try to look for other evidence. Or for similar claims of people who were on the ground, so when it comes to authority figures who might be? Spreading false information, we have that concrete evidence to rely on to say either they are. Accurate or inaccurate either way. How has the national media specifically? You know mainstream TV in the United States been about getting the truth out there, not falling for this stuff as a percolates on social media because I know We talk about it all the time. How strapped media organizations are and are they getting the stuff right regularly so one really tricky thing for news organizations right now, is that even a good faith efforts to verify or debunk or report on? The protests can be overwhelming because the news industry has suffered a lot of losses both this year, and in the long term. We are sometimes seeing reporters uncritically say that was posted on social media is true. And I can be really dangerous because we need to be able to verify the social media posts. Before we before we report on them, however, I do also want to say that. especially with local media outlets there has been a real good faith effort to debunk disinformation. As well, so it's not all bad news. I sort of swell with pride. Seeing local news outlets do fact. Checks on the air, which is not something that we've seen for years ago so as much as we need to be careful with reporting. On what's happening with social media? They're also seems to have been some progress. Being made in people being aware that this is a problem in the first place in the same vein. And I know the answer probably hasn't changed much since the last time we talked. But how have the social media platforms? Themselves been handling this? It's been really tricky. the the influx of false information has been really huge, and even though twitter has begun labeling certain imposed as misleading and facebook. Ha's outside fact checkers that they rely on to get correct information to people dot information doesn't always that good information doesn't always get to the people who already saw the false information so with social media platforms. There's definitely still a ways to go. And as my colleague and Helen, Peterson recently reported. A lot of the problem is presenting itself on local facebook groups. Groups. It's also presenting itself on local focused. Ask like next door. So that is the type of thing where we as deep bunkers cannot necessarily every local group in the world at the same time I think we get you to do this every time to, but you mentioned the piles of bricks, and you mentioned the rumors of Antifa infiltrating neighborhoods and protests. Are there any other really you know popular or insidious? One spreading out there that that people who haven't dug into this should be aware of. There there's been a lot Our list, a running list of hoaxes in debunks I, think is almost at fifty individual debunks that we've looked out so instead of focusing on sort of what is already out there I would really encourage people to be careful with what the amplify and what they share in first place, one really good Tampa is to keep an eye out on the surroundings in the photo or the video that you're watching. Do the surroundings match the place where the person says it was filmed, or does it look different city? Does the weather mash the weather for of other photos or videos from that protest? It's also really important to keep an eye on who the account sharing the original information is. Being a lot of people spread false information for online clout. So in order to get either followers, or just more is on that accounts content. Try to find if any sort of local reporters or local activists from the ground tweet at the same thing instead. And do try to search any extremely viral posts. In your preferred social media engine alongside the words fact, check. people like me bonkers. Fact checkers are working really hard to make sure. We knocked down as much false information as possible so if there is a fact check for it. That will come up in your search engines so. So, I think we're just at the beginning of this sort of false narratives. That are going to be circulating around the police brutality protests in. It's really really important to be proactive and also to correct. If you got something wrong, there's there's no shame accidentally falling for misinformation especially right now allows question, and it may be a little off to the side of the actual reporting that you're doing but. What is the end goal here? Is it just to confuse people as it to hopefully turn these protests violent Do we know anything about that? That's a great question that we don't really have an answer to like I said. There is some evidence that white nationalist groups are seeking to hijack the narrative around the protests. The protests have also spawned a huge political response, so it might. Be that. Are Using a conspiracy theories which we've seen in the past two solar sort of bolster their audience Sometimes it is to change what people think or how people feel about the protests, which is why it's so important to rely on accurate information around them. it's you know it's it's tricky. There's no one goal I I've spoken to. Early on a sixteen year old boy, who spread it e- hoax about his uncle being missing. From the protests just as a way of getting social media popularity, so we are definitely seeing both nefarious means nefarious reasons for spreading false information and less various reasons for spreading false information. Great, so everybody wants to get in on it now basically. Jane. Thank you so much. I hope you get a couple of days off soon. Well I went to an island with no cell reception this past weekend, and that was a gift fair. We go all right. Stay safe and thank you very much. Thanks for having me. Jane Davidenko Senior reporter for Buzzfeed News. That was the big story. If you would like more, and there is no disinformation on our site, you can find us at the big story PODCAST DOT CA. On twitter at the big story F. P. N.. Today, we will share Jane's running list of black lives matter hoaxes for your information and preparedness. Send it to all your friends. You can, also, of course find this podcast and all of the frequency podcasts in your favorite player. If you like them, give them a rating. Give him a review. Thanks for listening Jordan Heath Rawlings. We'll talk tomorrow.

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A tsunami of disinformation is coming from the White House

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21:46 min | 5 months ago

A tsunami of disinformation is coming from the White House

"Well as i record this it's been about forty eight hours since the polls closed in america. I'm just going to scroll through social media for a bit to find out what's happening in the election A suspicious person is wheeling. What looks to be boxes of ballots into a vote counting center rock. Great a whole whack of votes were just dumped overnight at a precinct in michigan. Whoa some some arizona. Ballots are being disqualified because voters used a sharpie to fill them out. A bunch of people in florida are just burning ballots. The president has decisively won. Pennsylvania and georgia and arizona to dead people voting in nevada. More votes were cast in wisconsin than there are people registered to vote. This is a mess except all of that is garbage. Hopefully you know that already. But still the wave of misinformation and disinformation. Whatever we want to call what the president is. Tweeting is far more than one person can be expected to wade through. It's far more than a whole mainstream journalism outlet could hope to debunk before more of it can flood the zone. Just how bad is it. Here is a clip for you from the pro-trump one american network on youtube. This is their newscast on the day. After the election i used the term newscast extremely loosely. President trump won four more years in office last night. North carolina florida pennsylvania michigan. Wisconsin are all trump's even arizona which somehow has biden. Winning is rampant with voter fraud nevada. Same thing this is a decisive victory for trump yet in the wee hours of the morning. When trump had a large margin of victory particularly in pennsylvania and michigan the democrat leadership of the state stopped. The vote counts. Why on earth would you stop counting because trump is clearly winning and they need time to find more ballots to all of that is a fantasy. What am i supposed to do with that. What are we supposed to make of the fact that it nearly four hundred thousand views on youtube been tens of thousands of shares on facebook. How did we end up so far. Down this insane roden. Is there really any way back when also we will run through some of the strangest things that you hopefully didn't fall for jordan heath rawlings. This is the big story jane. Davidenko is the disinformation reporter at buzzfeed. News jane just are you okay. You know any we're hanging in there. It's been a long few days as we talk right now. It's thursday afternoon. Tell me the last piece of disinformation debunked not the best Just the most recent. oh Well just two minutes ago right. Before we speaking i published a debunk a series of videos about claim to show people that are a hundred and eighteen hundred. Nineteen years old voting in michigan however They did not vote in michigan. It was their descendants. Who who voted and the michigan secretary of state. Spokesperson confirmed to us that even if the chance happens that somebody casts a ballot on behalf of a person who has died even the day before election day dot ballot will be counted. Has it been relatively easy to get clear information from officials in the middle of this. You know. I really have to say thank you to all the officials who are taking time out of their day. To debunk. these viral online rumors. Running elections is already a very difficult task. So when when you take a moment to respond and explain what happened in this situation. It's incredibly helpful on on tuesday on election day. We had a video that we couldn't really figure out what was happening there. The allegation was that a poll watcher was not allowed to enter the Voting place that she was going to watch May end in order to figure out what happened in that. Video officials in pennsylvania actually physically went to the voting place to figure out what happened so the officials have been very dedicated to trying to get as much accurate information out there as possible. Is that something you find in general On your beat or is this taken more seriously because obviously it's the biggest election in the world etcetera etcetera. We've talked to you for for all sorts of reasons From covid to to politics. I get the sense from your reporting that you're getting people you call taking this really seriously. People are taking this extremely extremely seriously and not just officials but also some of the social media companies or which is a real change of pace from congress that we've had in the past. I think twitter in particular has been doing a really standout job. they have not been shy about Putting warning labels on tweets that are false even when they come from the president Facebook has also putting warning labels on Posts that are false although there's are not as prominent unfortunately youtube is kind of trailing the pack They do put additional information under videos. That are false. But those remain on the platform and remained extremely available to viewers. Have you seen the one american network Quote unquote newscast about how donald trump won. Don't believe your is yes so this was a three minute video by the One america network which has always been a very conspiratorial network It's one that. Mr trump pas complimented in the past especially for their reporting. That's a quite questionable. Actually and in this three and a half minute video. The reporter falsely falsely credibly important here falsely says that trump has actually already won the election and the way she positions that is by saying that mr trump won before any of the mail in ballots were counted but of course the mail in ballots. Are the key here In this election in particular because the corona virus fears have caused a lot of early voting to go forward Which again is something. That's extremely unusual for the us so She essentially discounted on those millions of absentee ballots. That were male but in and youtube response was well. We've stopped running advertising on this video but the video remains up. And when i last checked got over three hundred thousand views which is extremely significant for video like that. It's almost at four hundred thousand now. Oh great good news. All around When you look at the types of disinformation you're seeing is the difference. This year The mail in ballot is that kind of the basis of all of this stuff of most of it are there. Are there other conspiracy theories floating around right now. We see huge effort to undermine the election results and to essentially claim voter fraud wherever the opportunity arises and this is particularly true in battleground states for example in pennsylvania we saw more double the amount hoaxes than we saw anywhere else on tuesday because pennsylvania is such an important swing state in this election as it is in many other elections but in this election in particular and in terms of the medium the hoaxes are taking. It's a honestly making our life very very difficult because the largest portion of them is video and photos which are incredibly difficult to verify incredibly difficult to search for or find the origin of And frequently has us essentially doing a lot of extensive reporting to try to figure out what is happening in one single video with every every half an hour new falsehood being uploaded. So it's been incredibly time consuming an overwhelming. How does it compare to some of the natural disasters or the early days of the pandemic or other things. You've covered that you've previously described for us as overwhelming. Yeah well you know. I think this is different than stakes. On pandemic ice think is still by far the biggest global disinformation event that we've seen and that's because the pandemic is everywhere and so the false information around the pandemic is everywhere but the us presidential campaign has been disinformation presidential campaign between the pandemic and they anti police brutality protesters there have been a log of falsehoods that have been spread and campaign don as a part of the us election so none of these. None of the is online. Disinformation campaigns are You know separate We can't necessarily look at them as if they are isolated from one another So for example. A big point in mr trump's Election campaign has been to demonize protesters on essentially say that they are burning down cities and our communists or socialists. Or what have you. And a lot of visuals. Were used alongside of that of fires being lit cities burning now we know that the vast vast vast majority of those protests are peaceful. But that's not the perception that we see online so in terms of disinformation events. All of those big overwhelming things. We've seen this year are just feeding into The presidential campaign at are now sort of coming to fruition this week. Do you have any idea of where the majority of this comes from. I feel and admittedly. I'm super amateur at the stuff. Like in the past a lot more of it seemed to be coming from foreign actors and now it seems like it's all coming from america itself. They conversation about foreign actors in twenty sixteen has been extremely prevalent because of course the russian interference in the two thousand sixteen election has been well publicized while known and since then we've looked to some state actors to see what it is. They're doing they have of course targeted. Us with false information but the vast majority of what we see In this moment is not only domestic but is coming from supporters of mr president himself. Yesterday we saw the white house. Press secretary trump's son eric trump just heaps of unverified falsehoods. So if we're having a conversation about where this is coming from This vastly vastly domestic and want to be clear here Disinformation is bi partisan. And we have seen some falsehoods coming from the pro biden democratic side. As well just not the same volume. While i'm going to get you to run through some of the more insidious ones that i've seen but maybe i give me an example of one of the ones from the biden side on tuesday. We've seen a couple couple of photos. Spread that claimed that trump supporters were not allowing people into their voting places to cast a ballot. We've seen a couple of commentators claim that mr biden has already won the election. When of course there's no winner that has been called as of this time so there are still those false claims out there but again not not nearly as high volume or really as mean spirited as the ones coming from mr trump's supporters. Wanna ask you but one in particular probably not because it's the most important one. But because i think it might be a useful example so tell me about the quote unquote wagon of. That was being into a vote. Counting center is actually debunked by my colleague. Craig silverman who has also been trying to through. What's accurate and inaccurate online. And essentially what happened there is. Somebody claimed that there were all of these Suitcases and a wagon of votes. That was being wheeled into eat. Texas voting site but the video of this and again Just to put an accent on video. The videos have been just. Incessant was actually just of a photographer who was loading his camera and other gear into a wagon for work So those details kind of Escaped people Because you couldn't see you know the particular things that were being voted into into against but it had a very innocent explanation. How do you even go about Trying to verify. Or debunk something. Like that. because you know. I've seen it and it's just like video. It looks shady. I have no idea what's in the wagon It could be whatever you tell me. It is but I can see why that would be just so challenging right. I'm and that's why we're really warning people against sharing images and videos of things that they have not verified or things that are not coming from official sources because those details can get very easily lots in the video and for us You know it's not a matter of quick reverse image. Search or sort of googling for more context. We don't have that option with video. We do the reporting. We pick up the phone call. We try to find the people who were involved and we break down. What happened there Which is very very time consuming. And it's much more time consuming than writing an instagram post to facebook. Post or tweet saying look this crazy thing that i saw in this video. What about The one i saw on twitter that wisconsin had more votes cast than there are registered voters. Oh that's a fun one. Yeah so that one came from an account that has been spreading a lot of false information and essentially this gentleman screenshot all of the votes that were cast in wisconsin and said The amount of registered voters is actually lower than the amount of ballots. That were cast. The problem is that he was using be amount of registered voters in twenty eighteen. Not in twenty twenty twenty numbers. They were perfectly reasonable. And while we're on this topic the other thing that i too We seen people claiming that the voter turnout is much higher than it should be. So if you look at the amount of registered voters in ballots count and people are saying you know. This is a ninety percent or eighty nine percent voter turnout. And that's not true because the voter turnout is calculated based on how many voters are eligible to vote not how many voters are registered to vote So those numbers are a little bit finicky. Rate on these are really small. Details that without knowing Like i didn't two days ago You won't necessarily notice the fake. What about the sharpies. Just want to get you going on. All the things people need to know. Oh yeah let's go through all the thirty hoaxes that we've debunked in the last two days. I know the sharpies. The sharpie gate has been a really fun. Wants to some folks have been claiming that they were specifically handed. Sharpies at voting stations So that they would use the sharpies to fill out their ballot and the ballot Which was pro. Trump would then be discounted because it was filled out with a sharpie. This is a really sort of it. Requires a lot of mental gymnastics to follow this Vacate conspiracy because the poll worker would have to know who the voter is casting their ballot for Before handing them restraint but The other thing is that you're allowed to use a sharpie to vote The only difficulty that officials have warned against is that if a sharpie bleeds and sort of leaves a stain on the ballot. The machine might not be able to read it and those ballots will have to be counted manually. Which is nothing insidious of ballots to be counted manually That's part of the process when you started This misinformation gig however long ago that it must feel like a long time now almost for years ago to the day could timing. Did you imagine that on election day. Twenty twenty you would be a fact checking direct misinformation coming from the official account of the president. Like you know. We have won pennsylvania and that kind of stuff because i almost get the bad actors in the supporters. Who want to you know either either gin up some anger or chase some social media cloud or whatever it is but did you ever picture that things would go this far. I'm a pessimist so my answer is yes Mr trump has used his social media to forward falsehoods over the last four years and for longer than that Some of the conspiracy theories that he pushes now go back to two thousand twelve two thousand inten so this is not a new behavior for mr trump and during the midterm elections. We've seen him use his twitter account to push the same voter fraud narratives that he's pushing now. The details may be different but the overarching narrative is the same so in many ways It kind of feels like the end of iraqi montage. This is mrs what's been. I'm on our plate for the four years on and it's it's unfortunate to say but it's not unexpected that mr trump and mr trump supporters are spreading falsehoods. In this important moment. Where do we go from here. I mean assuming that Biden's lead holds up and granted that might be a big assumption but even still if biden becomes president Mr trump's not going away. His supporters aren't going away and and more importantly to our conversation The culture of disinformation isn't going away. Is there any way back from this. And what does it look like. I'd really warned against Sort of coming speculating on how this race will conclude right now. There's just too much in the air and where we go from here will of course largely depend on whose president but an investigation that we published just last week into a white supremacist group called front. Which is a prolific on spreader of offline propaganda in the us shows that a lot of White supremacist groups in the us are preparing for life after mr trump and many of the Sort of don't feel like mr trump is key to They're functioning Be online environment that we're talking about right now will likely shift depending on how the election turns out but we can't make any predictions or speculations. On how it will shift until we understand the results of the election itself. Jane thank you for taking the time. I know you're super busy. And i hope you get some sleep soon. We'll get some sleep next year. Maybe thank you for having me. Jane davidenko disinformation reporter at buzzfeed news. And possibly the world's hardest working journalists outside of those guys running those screens for the networks. That was the big story for more from us head to the big story. Podcast dot ca. Find us on twitter at the big story f. p. n. email us big story. Podcast all one word. All lower case at rci dot rogers dot com. And of course we are always in your favorite podcast player apple. Google stitcher spotify pick one. We're there clear. Besides stephanie phillips and ryan clark are the producers for the big story and at least a nielsen is our digital editor. I'm jordan heath. Rowing's try not to fall for anything dumb this weekend and we'll talk monday.

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Debunking CoVid-19 myths and hoaxes

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20:49 min | 1 year ago

Debunking CoVid-19 myths and hoaxes

"Jordan I have a test for you. Oh Yeah what is it? I heard if you think that you might have current of virus you should take a deep breath it for ten seconds and if you can do that without coughing for ten seconds really yeah all right. I'M GONNA try it all right all time. You okay. One two three four five six seven eight nine ten. That's it that is it. Apparently you don't have the current virus. Perfect that's nice to hear. I can't be a real test though. No it's definitely not it's just another hoax floating around the Internet. I've seen a ton of those. Yeah what kind of stuff have you seen? Well I I heard that If I already had a cold in January and February which I did that I probably already had covert nineteen and I'm probably okay. I also heard that five G. technology is to blame that. They're looking into that link and I heard some stuff about silver or essential oils or vitamins. That I can take and it would just kill this virus dead. A lot of that is going around. Yeah I heard to the grocery store actually talking about how they were cutting up garlic every day and just eating that thinking that they wouldn't get the current. Oh virus if they did that. Just garlic just garlic. I also heard of course that a hairdryer can get hot enough to kill the virus and so all I gotta do is fire that up and I'll be right and the mother of all of them. I think that's been going around. That is kind of in a gray area. I'm not sure is that this virus will just be gone or at least almost gone when the warm weather comes. That would be nice. Yeah I'M NOT GONNA count on it but we're GONNA get into all of the hoaxes and misinformation around Kovic nineteen on the show today but first as we do now because this is a breaking story. Claire Give us a brief update on what's happening in Canada today so we are expecting a huge announcement from the federal government reportedly twenty five billion dollars to help Canadians and businesses. Get through. This time were also expected to get an announcement by the end of the week. About changes to upcoming tax deadlines potentially giving Canadians more flexibility to make tax payments a number of provinces have declared a state of emergency including Ontario Alberta and Prince Edward Island the number of cases of cove nineteen in. Canada is now at four hundred twenty. Four Ontario has reported its first deaths British Columbia reporting three more and that brings the nationwide total to eight as for new closures. Uber is suspending Uberpool. You can still use all other uber. Trips UBER eats is still available Cineplex's closing all theaters across the country until April second and CIBC says it is closing two hundred and six of its locations across the country as well as modifying hours of operation. You can find out which ones are open which ones are closed on their website. When we're glued to our social media feeds with all of this news and it's coming a million miles a minute and nobody seems to have any easy answers or any explanations. It's not a surprise that were eager to seize on one when we do see it. There's a reason we did that. Test off the top and I have to confess that when I first saw it I really did do it and I felt better for like ten minutes. I'm not naive. I'm supposed to be a journalist but I'd seen it on some official public health looking letterhead. It felt really good to think for a second that there was something that I could do right now to make sure that I didn't have covert nineteen. I realized almost immediately. Of course that it wasn't real but that quick feeling of relief a feeling like I understood something. In a completely chaotic situation it was powerful. And all these things take to spread is a little bit of panic that feeling of relief the best of intentions and a quick share and then it's impossible to put them back in the bottle and it's a fight that we can't win of course that doesn't mean there aren't people in the thick of the fray anyway doing their damnedest to make sure that you and I don't fall for things that might make sense right now. Might feel good but could cost us all in the long run. I'm Jordan Heath Rawlings. This is the big story Jane. Davidenko is the senior. Disinformation reporter at Buzzfeed News. She is extremely busy right now. Very very busy. Last time we talked to you. We talked about how you debunk. This kind of stuff in general. How has that changed in a situation? Like this where there's only one story so there's only one story but there is pretty much an infinite amount of misinformation going around right now Last time we chatted we were monitoring misinformation that was mostly targeted at China and now the misinformation targets people here in North America and seems to be causing quite a bit of panic. Are People more vulnerable to this stuff? in a crisis like this. So here's what we already know about. Misinformation it really plays towards a feelings of anxiety or anger or panic. That people may already have. This has been true since disinformation has become a thing And during a crisis like the krona virus people are already very very stressed out very anxious. And there's a big information vacuum That information vacuum is very quickly being filled with hoax says misinformation. Disinformation false cures. You name it. What kinds of stuff were you seeing? As the story I started to emerge so in the story I started to emerge the research of two big themes that we saw The first one was that The krona virus was a bio up in that was a falsehood that was spread by people who were financially or politically motivated for that narrative to take hold It is not true What we know is that it started at a market in in Hunt China The second thing that we saw were many many videos of people getting sick either fainting or just laying on the ground and those videos We just could not verify which is did not know what was happening at the time and we didn't have enough context for the images and the videos that were coming out of China and how of these stories changed as the situation has evolved. You mentioned they've kind of moved location. But how does disinformation evolve? I guess to adapt to the news that we're getting now. People in North America are not watching the situation on full unfold. Sort of At arm's length Now they're experiencing it themselves and so now the missing that we see is targeted at the people who are scared who may be experiencing at or are fearful of experiencing it so this means Mass text messages being sent out of falsely telling people that cities are GonNa get shut down including public transit and roads This means false cures and snake. Oil cures or Sort of just very bad health advice. That's going around That is a lot of what we're seeing now really targeted at the population. Are you trying to tell me that? Just because at the top of this podcast I could take a breath and hold it for ten seconds. That doesn't mean I'm safe log. Some of these false curious do seem outlandish but at a time of panic. Especially if you're somebody who Is not very well versed and Medicinal Sciences? Or Somebody. Who is very panicked? Somebody who doesn't have access to To health information you might serve. Try these cures as a as an attempt to prevent it from getting to you I'm not lying. I actually fell for that one. I figured why not. It can't hurt to know that I can still breathe deep breathing. Deep is very important in a panic but it will not help. Prevent the spread of Corona virus. Are you seeing hoaxes? In scams that are unique to this particular virus or to disease or is this just kind of the case of the people who do these things adapting their usual technique for new content. It's a little bit of both I honestly can tell you that I haven't seen this volume of misinformation and my three years of covering the beets So what we have is sort of existing players who have been spreading misinformation and we have people who have entered the field but most of all we have people sharing this stuff with each other. We're not going to be able to know the source of this stuff until we have a moment to take a step back and really analyze all the data that we've been gathering over the last little while but what we do know. Is that people in a panic. Have been sending this stuff to one another And that is sort of something that we all can do to help. Stop spreading it. How do you handle the volume? Do you kind of divvy it up into categories. Do you just try to rapid fire as they come in Do you try to have an overarching plan. That gets the right information out there. Saw for me. There's two very important things. One is to keep an eye on the real news real authorities have the CBC or news channels on at all times And really important for me to sort of understand the latest developments because the situation is changing hour by hour But the second important thing is for people to keep sending me hoaxes that they see because a lot of this is based on group chats and facebook groups. I don't always have access to To the misinformation that people might be seeing so essentially I am asking people to crowd source any misinformation that they might have come across and then I sort of If I've already debunked it then I'm able to send them back what we found. And if I then I added on to our running list of debunks how do you handle the gray area? 'cause I've seen a lot of this And Claire mentioned when we were recording the intro that she's heard people in the grocery store you know talking about well. I'm just going to eat a crap ton of garlic and that will help keep me safe now eating garlic's not bad for you. It's good for you but it's not going to help with this virus and I'm seeing a lot of information in that area where it's not kind of easily proven false but kind of gives people false hope if that makes sense. Yeah look it's we're at a point in time where okay to just say. We don't know we rely on the World Health Organization the CDC health authorities here in Canada to sort of keep us up to date with what they do and don't know in terms of healthcare's The World Health Organization has Been Very very good at tackling. Those false cures and that false hope. I think right now. It's really important to understand that with things like eating a lot of garlic or taking a lot of vitamin C. It's important to not overdo it. It's good to keep a healthy immune system. It's good to eat healthy. It's got exercise if you can. It's good to get some rest But none of that is gonNa Stop Corona virus from spreading And I think the important thing here is to remember how the virus functions which is that it can be passed on from person to person. Even if one of the people is a symptomatic so with health yours like eating garlic or eating lemons You can boost your immune system with the good food that you're might be making yourself while in isolation but that does nothing to change the external conditions. Ah that the virus relies upon to spread. I wanted to ask you about the people who are behind this and what their motives are. Do we know anything about that? Is it about profiting off of this? Is it about just spreading fear and chaos to have any idea? What's behind all the hoaxes luck? Right now we have very little idea of wear the hoaxes are coming from. We do know that hackers and bad actors online are targeting people in vast numbers cybersecurity researchers that I spoke with say that this is the highest volume or getting to be the highest volume of cyberattacks that they have ever tracked and it's very similar with misinformation. It's really difficult for us to attribute where it's coming from but like I mentioned earlier. What we do know is that once. A piece of miss or disinformation is online. The way it's spreads is organically which means it spreads by your friend saying hey I saw this thing online or your parents or grandparents saying hey. I saw this. I'm passing it on and that is the thing that we should be worried about right now. Making sure that the people around us are getting good. Information are spreading good information our social media platforms doing anything differently they are social media platforms are working with local. Governments to try to mitigate How much misinformation and disinformation spread on their platforms From what I've seen they've been removing things fairly quickly but of course not quickly enough It is still spreading. And it's important to note that over the last three years or so social media companies facebook. Google twitter have been under fire from activists lawmakers journalists for not doing enough to curb the spread of misinformation on their platforms and saw as a result they might not have a big robust infrastructure to target something that is this widespread globally and it is important to remember that this is global so while these companies primarily operate in English speaking countries in countries where the majority of the population doesn't speak English. Those hoaxes are still spreading and the fact checkers Might not have as much experience in those languages might not Have as robust of an infrastructure to tackle these hoaxes as we do in the English speaking world. What happens when some of the wrong information is coming from supposedly reliable sources? I guess I'm talking about Donald trump but he's not alone. There have been other officials sharing incorrect information. How do you deal with that? Yeah like it's a really difficult question in terms of what the authorities are telling us but this is the case were we should rely on medical health professionals as much as possible. Many of them have been on facebook on twitter on youtube trying to spread a good information. The health is the authorities like the world. Health Association has been proactively holding briefings and updating their website with any hoaxes that may be going around The positive side of this is that Be 'cause this is such a global Such a global pandemic there are reporters medical professionals authorities. Were trying to get good information out there. The best we can do is try to find those sources at hope that if they do spread Something that is false. They will correct because these organizations have a duty to correct their information. Before we let you go. Can we play some really rapid fire debunking with some of the most common ones that we've been seeing out there? Let's do it okay if I had a really bad cold in January zero chance that I had this already and I'm done with it maybe These symptoms are flu Coughing sort of exhaustion. If those are symptoms that you've had it's not impossible that you may have had this however there have been some cases of people who've had the illness testing positive for it again and it's very possible that even if you've had the illness you might still infect people around you so the best health advice that there is is to stay home stay isolated And try not to keep spreading it further. This virus will be gone when the warm weather comes or at least it'll almost vanish False absolutely no evidence for that advil in Ibuprofen and other anti-inflammatories can exacerbate the risk of me getting cove in nineteen. This is a tricky one But so far there have been no pure reviewed academic studies that show that this is true. I can use a hairdryer to kill this thing. Nope it began with the onset of five g technology. And we're looking at a link absolutely not I can protect myself with silver and essential oils and vitamins and teas. Absolutely not and you. Us authorities have been cracking down on anybody that says you can. What should someone do if they see something online that they're worried a total hoax and it's being passed around in their facebook group? How can they get it to you so you can debunk it? First of all reported to the social media network second of all Google the information to make sure that it is false And maybe drop. The debunk in the conversation. And if it hasn't been debunked already please get in touch with me. I'm on twitter. My handle is Jane which is just Shea. An E. L. Y. TV You will also find my email on there. My last name is thirteen letters. Long Not GonNA spell it for you but please send information that may not have been debunked already straight to me and I will do my best to bunker. Thanks so much for taking the time out of your insane day to help us a little bit. All right thanks for having me Jane. La- Davidenko is the senior. Disinformation reporter at Buzzfeed News. And she's at home working there. I'm at home in my basement. Clair's in her closet. You're probably at home too late. You were doing our best to stay healthy and stay sane and we want to hear from you. We want to know what your world sounds like. If you're staying home what are you doing to pass the time? Are you binging everything on net flicks? Are you exercising for the first time in a while? Are you learning a new language Kudos to you if you are? That's a big one. Let us know record a thirty second. Clip yourself just use the voice recorder on your phone or even just take video. We'll just use the sound and you can email it to the big story podcast. That's all one word at our C. I. Dot ROGERS DOT COM or putting together. A compilation of what lockdown sounds like for us and our listeners. We may be physically apart during all of us. But we're all in it together. Thank you for listening. Stay healthy stay safe. I'm Jordan Heath Rawlings. We'll talk tomorrow.

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Missing Our Dose of Fun

PkmnMstrz: A Pokémon GO Podcast

35:58 min | 5 months ago

Missing Our Dose of Fun

"This is cohen master pope amman. Go podcast your critical hit of hope mongo and the news from the pope amman world around us logic and adulting is don't always apply here your host jolt switch mac and roxy high. They're going to walk to another week. It is just me houston sweep. We have in having some some issues there. Roxie been having a room issue. Her back so sitting in reporting a podcast is not the most comfortable spot. So it'll be just me here. This week do apologize for missing last week. But i'll get y'all caught up russia dealer to mention that her podcast is part of the folklore professor network. So make sure you take a peek at pokemon professor dot com for all the other bits and pieces to that network. And you'll discover something else you'd like to tune into this week. Of course we have our event raider. Spotlight hours have been updated. We are recording on the third of november. Sui you've already missed cubans bottling hour by the time you're hearing this podcast battle touch on what's coming up next you'll be able to take a closer look and not expect. Moving forward are delve. A little bit into our spooky message on match that we got to experience. Legendary rates have been having a bit of an adjustment. Special research of has changed because november has arrived is the davidenko event. That has already happened so special weekend events coming up to community days not one but two here for november and some limited research knowledge could datum is a little bit. We do have a new version. Zero point one nine one point one so expensive information there in the bowery now has a quick tidbit of information for go bodily season five. Which as you mentioned before be only three weeks but again we'll reach their get to the battle arena some move deck so information to add to your move pool in the specialist cup now before i get too deep. 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November third was capable with two times. Start us. I totally spaced out in. Show notes s- quite some time ago so was not something. I was focusing on us. More focused on being the baby and everything but roxy was fantastic to remind me and grab a couple of cents to catch as much as i could next week. November tenth will be seen jimmy with two times catch. Xp saw thanks you to be on roxy case about that one. 'cause she's still pushing for level forty. November seventeen will be meowing with two times catch katie. I'm kind of surprised to see me out of here as did just have an event. Final were noble meal for them but there were cancelled me off in there to remember. Fourteenth will be barbara bush with two times. Transfer candy saw protests. That i might suggest is get your mystery box. Ready for the seventy th so you can get to catch kandy on all your mountain and then hang on to them for a week and transfer them with barbara which is time consuming eases shiny. So it if you don't have your you might wanna hang onto it. Grab your go. Plus people do that Milton does take quite a long time to transfer as its mythical renewed. Do each one individually which can be a pain in the nuggets. A spooky message unmasked now. That halloween event have been running from the twenty third of october right up until today at nine pm eastern standard time. I'll be honest. I only go for one costume. Ganger read we did actually have some read concerns are we are doing a mega. Do right at one point. But we reached out to my anti-helping they were nice enough to return our remote passes the group itself that had done it in gentleman who had invited us actually completed so it would have been cool to get the energy but passback and nothing at all agree. Day had happened on october thirty first. Unfortunately i didn't get to take part of the bit tied up with everything but it did get that shadow bone lou which can turn a few draws. I believe into wins. But if you got you got some chinese with that shadow vote. Great if you didn't get it you can always use that. Ille- charged him to get that move. If you really really wanna go for eligible a rates have had an adjustment so dark. Ride up at four. Pm eastern standard time on the twenty third walked over and they did updates will be sticking around until november fifth at four pm eastern standard time between the fifth in the sixteenth will be another. Which i'll touch on won't be vince. Actually that is coming up within that period. So from the sixteenth four. Pm eastern standard time until the twenty fourth at four pm eastern standard time. We'll be seeing the swords of justice. So that's Cabalion in meridian is for the twenty four at four p standard time until the thirtieth of november at four pm eastern standard time. They haven't announced what's coming but they do see to stay tune now october special research which did wind down a few days back was should india. So if you didn't have it yet it was a good pucks at. It's unfortunate that its effects. Clovis as you see in videos where you need to be doing superficial damage to deal damage. It doesn't have a one point at a does in game it's ten and it can't be using bodily because burning. Why would you want to tobita. The happiness is moving forward here for november so we re seeing that happening is pokemon until december first at four pm eastern standard time. And i'm sure we'll have an announcement before then tell us what will be happening. Or december work. The christmasy snowy icy over on might be moving forward. Did were celebrated in pokemon. Go have a post came partway through last week. So if i've ever i at ten. Am local time on november. Second at eleven fifty nine pm local time now. There were more frequent Horn representing different elements of the daily dead. So cuban son. Flora really attacking a docile and lipoic incense was spawning more ghastly mischievous absol- shepherd dusko driven in lipoic and field. Research was providing merck alongside a low merrick mirko and skull poppins were available as go battling rewards so anyone who was able to take part to enjoy that and it was a special welcome shop that had incensed office star pieces remote rape passes and there was even snapshot surprises now. They're us bent coming out the pokemon journeys which is actually the news tv series. It's an animation week event so starting november six at eight pm local time until twelve at ten pm local time seven world tied to the two main characters in the series which is ash and go event exclusive time research inspired by the animated series. Timeline will be available to complete and there will be the world cap peak at you in the wild now. We did just have that as a spotlight. Our peak you there will be more available in case you missed out. During this event regina we'll be back as november fifth at four. pm eastern standard time until november sixteenth at four pm eastern standard time. So that's what will be filling that gap there had mentioned earlier. The will include ivy's or pincers nor lack schoolwork and others. I'll be really honest. I'm kind of excited to see ivy's or in raids. I've taken to using orcas. My venus order whispering plant is not good for p. but the law people off guard because it can take a hit it can land a blast to same with leaf. I'm more likely to use my mcgee but bay. Leaf is not a good one to use. Catch people off with iraq tech charged with more frequent spawns. We were seeing for. This event was executed. teeny cynical anki bone so keep an eye out for those come november. Six from seven k eggs will be seeing mantech really in. Cuba is all tied to the show. There there is mention that time research inspired by the series in go appear snapshots now for those who don't know go from the show has an h. so it's geo h and go inspired avatar items. Were available for free in the shop. We do have another special weekend. I know we talked about the grab one previously. But we have one coming up on november seventh between eleven. Am and two pm local time. Tickets have been available from the twentieth of october and will be available right up until the seventh at two. Pm eastern standard time. It is available to verizon customers energy vast in because is a special event for for isan. You tempted ticket by using the horizon up at which i assume is the app that you get for being verizon customer limited time research will provide experience points stardust incense star piece as well as a hundred transact energy. He hit pretty much sounds the same as the other event. The biggest change. I believe is that we see absol instead of morale in the encounters for that research. Everything else winds up pretty cruelly aside from the unknown instead of seeing g. h. as we are seeing progress You'll actually seeing nz horizon so starting as of the twentieth eligible verizon users were able to unlock avatar items and oppose that one of which is actually a face mask. So that's pretty cool on a little jealous. Because i'm stuck with that white face mask which looks kind of awkward and there are sponsor gifts from select pokerstars for the first time each day in select regions and later in twenty twenty one trainers in certain parts of the states will be able to take part in legendary reads at their rogo sponsored. Roosen gyms of course you keep in mind. We have that grub event will be on the eight so if you miss out on the seventh won't taper sign up for the grubhub event and you'll be able to experience similar pieces now communities that's right to remember has to communities i will be electable as of november fifteen two thousand eleven. Am local until five pm. Local time there will be able to evolve to elect a liar to get flame thrower up to two hours. After the event to he'll look at flame thrower with elective ir. It's not really a breaking the mold. Kind of move blackbir- hydro canaan actually won it. Just have it go crazy. It does say to take snapshots which shmuel pro eating snapshots for that event itself. Usually it's five. I don't know if we have information from the data mine itself. I didn't notice it be honest. These communities aren't really interesting me so much. So i i'll be also might have dropped the ball nas The community box will still be that one thousand two hundred e polka coins Fast him for elected by this day. Three raiders three incentive thirty ultra. There will be exclusive time research as well as field research for the day and you can get the rhetoric for electric buzz Paid research itself one. Us dollar or equivalent to your local value and elected will be hatching from two quarterbacks ever bonuses will be seeing is of course the three are in cents that we are used to this point and one core hatch distance. Nurmi other one. We'll be six days later. So that's november twenty first eleven. Am local time to five pm. Local time we seeing magwar and when you have all that make more to make more tire for up to two hours activists. We'll be learning thunderbolt. So they're changing elements there between the two again really sewing that you're seeing making a huge difference in their game play but if you want it's available therefore you again snapshots community. Boxing cost the only difference. Lead charged him so fast on this one and willing to pay that no match for magwar one. us torah porgy and national research. So they're kind of double dipping here. I'm a bit concerned about that. It's becoming more is not paid. A win is not the right terminology for it. It's paid to get exclusive things. I mean you can still get certain moves with your regular fast in charge teams. It's not a selected. A real things. You can't get your community move. So that's a concern there for you of course You do need those ille- charge teams. But i wanna be concerned with seeing this. I'm hoping we're not gonna start seeing communities moving forward. I'm hoping that the pokemon see will be a little more special. I guess as the right word. It will be the same bonuses here. You'll see maggie. From two k eggs alongside a quarter hatch distance orders and there will be unlimited research event on november twenty eight but the feature of one haven't been announced yet. They seem to tune into their blog for more information there. I know that when roxy isn't with me i'm able to fly things quite quickly. Because roxy is our comedy really she talk shit. She loves to chatham coaches fun. Anything she'll talk about anything in the middle of anything I'll be honest. I it's probably boring. Shit for you to listen to disney talking and i get it roxy fun always fun i can be fun but I actually kind of bored sitting. You're not talking with her before we take a look at that data mine. They're just minded. Our podcast is powered by patriots. Here for a dollar months out the ppc that we'd been within our region and keep those use turning on our content support helps immensely if monetary support quite your thing just operating on apple podcast you. Can he get Good pots revisit. New app that's very similar to. It's sort of like facebook or podcasts. Or you can tune in the podcast and you can share them in post about them like like a link or whatever it's taken a good pods is a an interesting app To rate as well as provide information pod. Chasers like imdb for podcast. They're your favorite podcast readings reviews and messages if you if you want Just let us know that you like what you hear. Now the data mine actually dropped wiles writing for the show. So thank you over minus four. That data minded is huge the android eleven natural issues fixed. Now i could speak to. How annoying it is to take pictures and not have them save which i assume is the issue that they mean. I just got the update before i started the podcast and my mice nationals have started to save again. So that's a positive for me We have our first know here in canada. I went outside. And i started trying to take picture really excited. I cop stares sorta look to edit those pictures in none of them saved to my camera. Roll not happy. So receiving again won't be able to start taking more pictures and be able to post to instagram. I know that fog away side. We think really busy but we have pictures going up here and there Awesome pope bean and some of the dogs and everything but the poem pictures to come. I promise we will really get working on axs. Everyone really enjoyed them and love to shannon to. Now you can talk. Show your friends. Mega evolutions the same. As the online offline features. The recently caught feature that portion is in the code as well so once they turn it on. You'll be able to make that selection if you'd like your friends to see if you have a mega evolution. That's active is possibly now a magazine. P p a toggle in the code to have allowed and go bodily and that's of the assumption what we are see but it is up to discretion. Of course they have announced are previously that they aren't allowed at this time. So hopefully move forward. If you're really it. I don't think when seen the videos magazine using pvc but it hurts. It's up right. Not a fun experience. Previously we had spoken to extra-large candy. Now they're having more details added to the code freeze -ly. I thought it was similar to the console games where you know when you get to those. That's up to a higher point. Nita a larger keeney to continue to power them up It works as though that may be what we're looking at here. Extra-large candid kim. Come from feeding on in jim's entrance report one to pokemon home so another bonus to that feature that we're still waiting on a further announcement for here at according does show that extra large. Can your exile candy is used to operate onto something not to be confused with poor evolutions. Of course now pct go does show her for transporter energy it refreshing every hour arms. So i guess that transporters very similar to sort of the link cable speak to you in the original games before you could work bluetooth phone from that era but That transport energy were speaking to for transfer is linked to your poland's combat power or cpi. So as you do without across a certain amount one thousand two thousand across a certain amount in two thousand four cost more. I show a minimum level required for use in the code as well and there is a field in code as well for pokemon that are unable to be transferred. So if they're not able to go to home for whatever reason it won't let you transfer them now as for that pokemon organization future. There is matt tagging feature. We'd spoken to add. There is another minimum level requires won't make sure people are leveled up to a certain point to be able to use these pieces. It's also amac's number of tags that you are allowed to use so i'm not sure what that number will be but it's kind of interesting to see their rocket balloons. Do have code for a tally coming forward. That could mean that. There's a possible badge tied to it because we do of course. Have the rocket stops. That also get counted in the same place when you the balloons. The balloons may become their own badge. But we'll have to wait and see about that one to see what happens. Moving into the battle arena. Go bodily has rounded out the masterly as of october twenty six. How income has ended as of recording. Which means that I didn't get to get any rewards. July didn't get to take part of a busy. We are seeing all these at this point in the premier cup so as the third at four. pm eastern standard time until the ninth at four pm eastern standard time All those leisure vehicles great ultra and master alongside that premier cup for the match elite itself. We do have go bottle night back. They did reschedule that when spoken to before will be november fifth at six pm local time until fifty nine pm local time i will include the flying cup league and you're on have to have a flying typing with them. I believe everything will stay the same. So twenty cents. Go by the which is a total one hundred battles. We also should be seen to start as for winning completing sets in ranking up on stuck at level. Five here haven't been able to battle much. So i'm hoping to at least level seven so i can get my elite tm at the end of the season. And when you have to pidjot you'll get the exclusive gusts now i will be streaming my battles for batley starting at eight thirty. Pm eastern standard. Time with my battles and everything. And i'll be pushing to raise. Funds for diabetes. Research institute is actually a diabetes awareness month for november. I know a lot of people doing the movember thing. And that's a huge piece to Gonna make sure we're focusing on everything that's around so we will be raising funds for the diabetes research institute throughout or stream. Again we will be starting up at eight thirty. Pm eastern standard time with her battle. Here that'll be. After hitler the sleep and everything so i should be able to. Just get on in power through l. season of five. We'll be kicking off as november night that four. pm eastern standard time. Now i know thought the cops or the the league's would be. They're also great ultra master but they've actually given it a little bit of a twist so this could be really interesting starting off. It will be the little cub which means that from the start about seasons so november. Nine th at four. Pm eastern standard time until october sixteenth at four pm eastern standard time sort of the weeks right on one who can of oil but haven't and the p. limit were be i've hungered. That's really an interesting tweet and we'll be really fun to see what happens here. Also be seeing the kanto cup. So that's pokemon numbered from one to one fifty one. That's the first set of when we got we'll be running from mercedes four. Pm eastern standard time until november twenty third at four pm eastern time and that will be in the greatly always saw things under fifteen hundred sleepy and last but not least from the twenty third at four pm eastern standard time to the thirtieth four pm eastern standard time. We'll be seeing what's called the catch cup or this one becomes a little bit interesting. It's only program car from the beginning of season. Five allowed so that would be november ninth at four. Pm eastern standard time. Any cut from that point on will be allowed in this tournament. here it will be great league. All mythical procam on armband now rank progression will be a little bit different. This season from rank wondering too will be from battles completed and then honored so to get to ranks three of until ranked ten if to win a certain number of balance for each rank. So it's no longer the are when you get to a rank seven. I think it is and it's just julie based on winds which makes it a little more interesting. 'cause i mean if you win enough should progress up and out. It doesn't subtract when you lose which helps now four season five. We will continue to see those. No walk battles are remote battles at good friends and you can still scan your qr code from any distance. Rewards will be very similar so again rank. Seven were have peach. Ub rate avatar apparel ranked seven. Ken encounter current tier fi folk monceau legendary pokemon that you see in raves at your level. You have that account in counter availability when you're in your reward tractor and rank ten. We'll have pg ray encounter so keep in mind that is the avatar payroll seven encounter at level ten or accept and rank them. I still have not seen julie. Because i have not made rank ten. There's the fun for me and abc's rewards will be very similar Anything from rank wondering three you'll get stardust rank four to ten will be start as teams and premium battle pass for rank seven and up your elite. Tma will be charged him for season five in season. Six will cave off as november thirtieth at four pm. Eastern standard time haven't spoke to a timeframe for the season itself. So that means we will have to wait and see if they're back to Great altar and master or they're gonna implements markups or something like that which will be interesting to take a peek yet. Ask for the decks. A news so incinerate is going to be a new move. A fire type asked attack. That will be a candle rapid. Ask how dr manhattan and shane the war. Really interesting to see some more fire type attacks to surround the meta updates to move things like poison staying and i'm kind of Happy for this of to the fast attack. Because it's going to generate energy faster flaine charges another update that will be saying. It's a far type of charge attack at will. Now be teachable. To can't rapid ash and amber in chandelier. I mentioned earlier there. The specialist cup. I'm not sure how many people have heard of this yet. But it's it's a really interesting meta that it's spoken to has a cup. It's not done the same as most of the other pe- vp. Bits and pieces that we've see but it has. It was created by a german. That goes mr dr pants on or put his twitter in a description. Here he's hosting it through self but it's an unranked tournament so it will effect your self rank as there are limitations on it and those are the rules for self arena. You can't have ranked tournaments with limitations. That are not silk based ranked pieces you do have to be within the server to get your rankings. For the terminator. He's actually manning that on his own. I'll make sure that the discord as well is in the description basically. What you're doing is selecting. Your specialty gets to battle with its type restrictions at brayson wanted to being jim leader except it's not like one or two types it's it's it has a three types to be totally honest with you and they're not sort of lames like for instance the the first canto badge the bolder boulder badge Came with rock and round types which are very similar These are a little more spaced out. So it's easier to create a defense for your team against the other types of teams are when you enter tournaments. You gotta use your classes restrictions figured out how to counter with the other classes of selected battlers. Really interesting here. The classes ranged from ranger as trainer beauty. Scientists rogue hiker mystic and warlord and those types. Of course the ranger is allowed to slang bug and grass types now. They are dual typing as allowed of course and always poco in kano moves that are not of those types but each book has to have at least one of those type things. The trainer has fire grass and water so very similar to the starter. Pokhran for most of the games are the beauty class. Has ferry water and flying types. Scientists is normal electric and steel. The road classes one of the more common ones that have been see. You can see how many people have signed up for each role and you can through the season itself but I've seen people pick a rogue more often than not at the typing for our dark poison and ice hiker when the first serve opening of the season tournament came around. There were no hiker. So i grab allen to be. Want to see what i could do it Hiker is rock ground and fighting so that fighting type helped out quite a bit I did actually get a win. Not like a best of three win a one match win ever so it was pretty cool. I've got one more match left in the first sort of opening cup itself. So are you guys. Know how that one goes. What if you're not really good with meta's don't pick hiker 'cause it hurts just to be totally honest with you. A mystic is actually ghost psychic and dark types ever be interesting combination and last night. At least you have the word which is dragging normal fire types. So as i mentioned you have the capability. Change your classes through the season but in the midst of a tournament. You can't make that adjustment because it can throw a monkey mentioned everything if people are trying to figure out what what class group our You gotta stay put until the tournaments over now. Another piece that is coming has started actually is the go team of event which is prolonged. Go stadium so as i've mentioned in many of the podcast. Before i really big into team registered talked about the multiple times are sort of introduced everyone to them. If you've listened to some of the podcast if you haven't you can scroll through the thumbnails. Anything with their name on it on talking about him. So take a look. They are in group one in this tournament. Here at sort of a round robin with those those teams. They'll be facing the boys. Are bach infiniti. Go and metal hunters. Sp division really interested to see how they do. And i want to see some of their game plan and able to speak to it. There are twenty one different groups of usually four. I'm seeing two groups three but it'll be to see what what they put forward and i'm excited to see how they're doing here. I know that Quite a few of them have been doing really well in tournaments for season three which only just started which is always a positive. And i'm kind of curious what they do with the marsh cup that the are experiencing this month so aside from that. 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How disinformation spreads during breaking news events

The Big Story

17:16 min | 1 year ago

How disinformation spreads during breaking news events

"Quick update on our top story breaking news of multiple attacks. Right now. Police are trying to put together exactly what happened here. But here's what I can tell you being told. We're hearing more heartbreaking stories about the victims. It's astonishing it's momentous and has no precedent in modern times a lot what people spring into action. The moment major news breaks especially when that news is a tragedy first responders of course our first but also so governments and reporters and editors news organizations and they're far from the only ones because as soon as a story hits particularly if the the news is global. And especially if it's politically charged another industry ramps up. This industry exists on social media. It specializes houses in hoaxes conspiracy. Theories and other forms of disinformation. He's things are designed to an emotional reaction to drive engagement and to drown out all the credible reporting that's being done by legitimate news gatherers and far too often it achieves exactly that purpose Unless someone can debunk at fast enough and get the word out far enough to stop it from spreading. That would be where today's guest it comes up. I'm Jordan Heath Rawlings. This is the big story. Jane Dividend counter disinformation reporter at buzzfeed. News if you follow the headlines this week you know she's probably being being busy perpetually online so I and I say this without meaning to be sarcastic but how the past forty eight hours being for you. You has been overwhelming breaking news. Situations create an information vacuum. Everybody really wants to know what's going on but details take time And in that information vacuum disinformation a is just rampant. It's everywhere it's all over the place So it's it's it's really overwhelming to see the amount of falsehoods there. The amount of conspiracy theories And now we're sort of just waiting to see which one of them will take hold. Can you explain I guess what it is you do in the moment when something like that happened. So for example Tuesday night word starts to come out that Iran has fired missiles at US bases in Iraq. And that's kind of all anyone knows. What do you do so like everybody else? I immediately go on social media. I start by searching coaching. What people are saying? I have to separate sort of streams that I look at one is a stream of reporters researchers News outlets anybody who I know to be a reliable source And that's important because even though in the moment People who you know their stuff will get things wrong. You can sort of see the information that's coming in and the general outline of it so you know what you can expect and and then the other stream is what's popular what is spreading on social media What is getting a lot of re tweets getting a lot of shares getting a lot of comments and and that's when we start looking for disinformation in this case the majority of disinformation that we saw were images and videos? So what this means is as soon as I Saw something that was claiming it was featuring An image or a video of the attack I would fact check it It can be very easy and very difficult at the same time So in order to know that you you need to fact check something you need to understand what the situation is already and a part of that is sort of understanding. What was this missile strike strike like? What were the weapons us? What would it have looked like and then you sort of go through go through the associated hashtags sorted associated associated keywords and you look for images that don't seem right you know if it's an image of a bigger explosion or a rocket firing that doesn't really match with the type of weapons that were used and from there it can be pretty simple? If it's an image you can just right click and reverse google search The image and see whether it is from tonight or if it's appeared somewhere else before so we've seen images From going back as far as two thousand and nine used an attack used to represent a tax in the last few hours videos are a little bit more difficult than there's some tools that we use But there's also just a false information. One of the biggest pieces of information that we saw was people claiming false casualty counts and as a matter of fact the words. US thirty or rather thirty us. Sorry started trending within the US Because that is how many people were spreading those bad information Asian there were no. US casualties that we know of on either basis so far but people were spreading this falsehood so widely that it showed up in the twitter trending ending tags which reinforced the falsehood right. And where did it come from originally. Were you able to track down how it started. That's a really good question. And it's very difficult to quantify quantify we've seen it quite a few Campaigns online trying to sow confusion both from Pro Iranian Dan narratives anti-iranian narratives. Saudi Arabia got in on the action and People in North America who were watching. Who didn't know what was going on? Or maybe Hudson political aim also spreading this information so there are a lot of people sort of transcending digital borders and piling onto the situation at a time when nobody knew which makes it extremely difficult to trace back individual pieces of disinformation especially because content on the Internet. You know it doesn't live very long sometimes times. You have to really dig to find out who the originator is so in general in the moment because now I want to ask this question because you mentioned that you have to feeds and one is the reliable information formation. One is. What's popular? Tell me they overlap. In general sometimes we are very lucky because so we still have reporters who were in In the area who could explain what was going on There are researchers researchers. Were keeping an eye on this sort of stuff and sometimes they do overlap and that shows up in the popular stuff as well as the misinformation. Yes but the thing with misinformation and this information is that it's very emotional and when it's emotional people share it much more than a straight laced. Here's what's happening in the situation. And so unfortunately and breaking news situations much of what we see of the top content. Is that false content. Why do people do this is it? I mean I know. There's there's a political bent to it we've kind of we all have heard about how Russia's attempting to sow discord in the US but for political purposes for engagement. Do you make money doing this kind of stuff. There are definitely people who are seeking to profit financially from breaking news situations. But that's not always the biggest reason why people do this in breaking news situations. There's people whose interests lie in that situation be interpreted a certain way. So for instance Iran showed false images of the attack. Because I'm speculating here. They looked much more impressive around the images of the actual attack Likewise you know saying that there is a there have been. US casualties agility is does also potentially play towards around agenda because they want to look like they are intimidating. They want to look like they've have caused damage. But there's also cloud chasers people. who spread disinformation just to be popular on the Internet? Just for it to get pickup just for it for their name for their image to be associated with a popular piece of information to get more followers. You've been doing this kind of thing thing for a at least a couple of years now are the people who spread this stuff and share this stuff getting better and more sophisticated or are we getting getting better at sussing it out or maybe both. It's definitely a little bit of both So there's a few different actors that are involved in disinformation. One is the audience Sean's and I am extremely proud of the audience because people are learning to verify the information that they share her or or learning to hold back information that they think might not be verified So many people contact me and say hey. I don't want to share those because I don't know what's up but I'm just WanNa make sure that you see it and that is really great. Shows a level of social media literacy that we might not have had a few years ago. Oh then there's the social media networks You know it's a big question of how they respond to disinformation and unfortunately even though they have put in fact checking measures arm and have created fact checking partnerships We do you still see very slow or a lack of action from social media networks to take us down and the last part of this of course as you mentioned the people who spread disinformation. And you're right. They are getting much more sophisticated they don't always need to Fake images have are very easy to spread. You know you you save and then you upload and then you say that it's from a certain night and then you're done but D- In taking stub bag and outside of breaking news situations we see professionalization of disinformation formation. We definitely see people offering disinformation as a service we see. What do you mean by that? This is from a separate report that We just published With my colleagues at Buzzfeed News and what we're seeing is. PR firms offering disinformation The spread of this information service. So whether it's false news articles or false fake personas on facebook writing comments to bolster somebody's reputation tation or spreading around memes and videos which In my opinion is the most dangerous form of disinformation because it's just so catchy she We definitely see bad actors. Sort of double down on their efforts to continue spreading disinformation. They're they're offering the service. Yeah on the marketplace. Yeah sometimes absolutely You know sometimes you have to know who to call but We sampled investigations from all around the world and we found that in many places disinformation Or social media manipulation really is e fairly really prevalent and popular Service that PR firms offer sometimes PR firms. That aren't on the books But they're still there if the bad actors are also getting better and the audience is getting better but the networks aren't what's one big thing in your mind that if if the social media networks I wanted to take this more seriously they do. It would make a real difference in what you see on there to just say. Take away the share button. The person invented the tweet button has come out and said that maybe that was a bad thing. It was a mistake but I think I think there are a couple a couple of things to take into consideration. One is that it's people who are spreading this and it's people who are falling for it and we need to understand the the human the human portion of this Problem there have been online scammers for as long as there's been an online And that's never going to go away. But for social media networks the need to reconsider how they rate popularity of the content and how they calibrate their algorithms There have been many advocates for algorithms transparency. Who argue that people people need to understand why something has been put in front of their eyes If you think about it on facebook you. It's not the newspaper. You don't have any control to figure out why something was put on the front page and I think that is. That's an argument. That makes a lot of sense. You mentioned back at the beginning of this conversation when we were talking about the two feeds that you sometimes see responsible media. People caught up in disinformation campaigns. Pains by accident. What happens when you debunk those myths? That are spreading in the moment. Do you see retractions and follow ups and do they actually fix the problem. Well that's the big difference between a a professional reporter and Psalm. I'm one WHO's not part of a professional organization is that professional reporters do have an obligation to issue a correction to to issue a retraction and also they have a lot a legal liability if they spread disinformation And a lot of people don't sort uh understand that and not everybody is going to see that retraction or correction when it comes but it also means that you do have hover reliable source of information who you can trust issue that retraction on like with you know anonymous accounts who are out there trying to tweet tweet. The news or Posted News on facebook and facebook groups. The difficulty is that we're all susceptible. We're all humans will make mistakes because we're all going to Fall for a mistake and I would say that in a breaking news situation the best thing you can do as a person who wants to know what's going on is just follow a handful of people Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Diversify the reporting that you're looking for look at a few you different outlets if one of them will make a mistake. Then you the other two will not brown and that's the best thing we can hope for. And it's it's it's a lot to ask of people uh-huh it has a lot to ask of people but with the situation that we're in now it's sort of the best approach that we can have joined breaking news situations wants something like thirty a US starts to take hold. Does it ever get put back in the bottle. No never Who we see what we call Zombie? Hoaxes resurface years after again absolutely The most famous one is I think many people have seen seen an image of a shark swimming in a highway You know looking as if it's taken out of a car window and not image has been around since two thousand twelve twelve. That is eight years of the same hoax being circulated and unfortunately they are still people who all for it So Oh hunting is out. There very rarely gets put back in the box great. That's a cheery not very sorry to be the bearer very bad news here. Thank you so much for helping us. kind of unpack this. Thank you so much for having me. Please think before you share Jane. LA- Davidenko disinformation reporter with Buzzfeed News. That was the big story. One hundred percent true. No hoaxes no conspiracies if you want more of them they're out the big story podcast dot. Ca We are also on twitter along with the rest of the world. You can find us at the big story F. P. N.. If you want more podcasts we are in every podcast player. 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3.6.19 Watch out for less generous homeowner's insurance policies; Smartphone sales are in decline

Clark Howard Show

35:03 min | 2 years ago

3.6.19 Watch out for less generous homeowner's insurance policies; Smartphone sales are in decline

"This episode is brought to you by Comcast business. Businesses always been driven by innovators entrepreneurs and disrupters. That's why the company who built the nation's largest gig speed network is moving beyond beyond connecting your business to helping you provide better experiences beyond the best for your money to the best for your business at an even greater value beyond fast to providing more than any other provider provides Comcast business beyond fast. Visit Comcast business dot com for more. Glad you're with us here on the Clark Howard show where it's about you learning ways heat more of what you make coming up later. There's a big trend in the cell phone industry, Vic can work to your advantage. I'm gonna tell you how it plays out. So state farm. I think it's the largest homeowners insurance in the country sets a lot of trends for a lot of their competitors. And state farm has been being sued multiple lawsuits around the country because state farm changed coverage in homeowners policies and just lost a lawsuit in the state of Pennsylvania for quite a bit of money and the lawsuit can concern how people were notified by state farm of the changes in their policy that we're actually take. Taking benefits away but referring to it in the information being communicated homeowner's policy holders as additional coverages. So sounding like they were giving you more benefits when state farm was actually taking them away. And so there was a great right up in the Philadelphia Inquirer about what they were up to. And what state farm has done is. They've greatly limited coverage in the event you have water damage in your home. And so now, you're facing a lot more out of pocket. So you're paying for this coverage that now has been excuse the pun water down by state farm. So they've been sued two different ways. One on the coverage reduction that people have had and the other on the misleading nature of how state farm informed people all over the country that their benefits under their home. Owners policies were being reduced. So the reason for this is water damage claims or a huge deal for homeowners. Insurers and homeowners insurance step by step have been reducing the coverage that you have under your policy, not reducing your premiums, necessarily, but reducing the coverages engaging in the risk management business instead of insurance and state farm ensures best guests by industry sources about one in five homes in the United States. So they're huge in homeowners insurance. So what you need to know is that you should look at home owner's insurance may be differently than you have in the past. Don't expect it to be comprehensive or cover every eventuality look at it is something that deals with a catastrophe at your home. A major fire a major event that would require substantial rebuilding or a complete rebuild of your home has become really the purpose of homeowners insurance. Don't treat it as something for incidents, something that happens that caused what for you may feel like a major thing. But to the insurer is like nothing. So that's why I encourage you very much as a homeowner to raise your deductibles on your homeowner's insurance is high as if you have a mortgage on your home as high as your mortgage company will let you do and his high as you can stand the benefit of that is twice two things. One you end up with a lower total premium by raising your deductible in to your less tempted to make a claim for smaller things and the benefit of that is the insurers not gonna surcharge you for having had a claim or. Cancel you. Or what they call non renew you for having made that claim. Chris joins us on the Clark Howard show. Hello, chris. How are you? I'm great. How about you? Clark. Great. Thank you. You have been hearing a pitch about how there's an esoteric special kind of whole life insurance policy that is magical and can make you rich. Hurry much. And did you hear this pitch from a sales person or on the internet or from an ad or what's the story? How you found your way to actually he is. A five planner claims to be Sherry and has a CPA firm that did my taxes, and that's where I heard about. So I am on alternately opposed to using life insurance as an investment. Because the expenses involved in it in a life insurance policy or so gigantic that it is an extremely inefficient way to save money in its pitched a lot is a way for you to do tax free investing or tax advantaged investing. Who is that how it was explained to you? Basically what they say is that you pay for the premium, but then you pay extra which they word that money as paid up additions, and it apparently it builds Davidenko, and then you can actually pull money back out of the count to us as a tax free loan. That's that's the standard pitch. I've heard through the years. I'm surprised that this individual is a fiduciary, maybe this individual is. But that is not mainstream advice, and I would encourage you to really be cautious before you get involved in using life insurance as a supposed- way for you to do extra great tax free investing. Elizabeth's with us on the car coward show. Hi, elizabeth. Hurry. Click. How are you today? Great. Thank you, Elizabeth and congratulations on being a freshly minted college graduate. What's your degree in? Hence section management and accounting, no way. No way. So you have you have two majors or did you major in the minor? He made it's actually teenagers and a minor. It's a management degree inspection insists minor in the counting degree. Wow. You just wanted to make sure that no matter what you were going to be highly sought after in the job market. Yes. That's my plan. Great. Well, how can I be of help is as like you've got it all together. Yes. I hope so I some graduating and I've graduates no student loans. My parents has saved for me from day one, basically in their gifting me, my car, and then I won't really have any bills until my current contracts that my parents that wanted to break any contracts until they end, so I kind of want to I want to be able to pay for my children's college one day, I want to have a healthy retirement fund. And I want to be able to travel some silence of advice on going into the workforce. What should I be looking? For and what should I kind of do to put me on the path of what I how I want my financial life, especially because your expenses are going to be so low from your first job forward, if you're offered a 4._0._1._K and they offer to flavors which most employers will offer both either a traditional 4._0._1._K or a Roth 4._0._1._K go raw 4._0._1._K if that's available to you. And put in the maximum you're allowed to put him by that employer. That is the most important thing to do that right out of college. And do that consistently. Your parents created an enormous buffet of options for you because they had been such diligent savers. And you have learned that and benefited from that from them. So now repeat that cycle and in your early twenties absolutely hands down, the most important thing is to do the retirement plan at work, and because your expenses are. So very low also do a Roth IRA. And you do and if you don't have a 4._0._1._K offered where you go to work. It least do the full annual contribution. You're allowed to a Roth IRA, and you you start off young saving all that money. It makes a big difference. Now as far as vacations I would love it. If you take a certain percent of your pay and put it where it's split thing. Where a portion may be five percent of your check whatever goes into a vacation savings account at a credit union every month. And they just call that split deposit of a paycheck. And so you're automatically building up that savings into a vacation fund. And you have that money for you that you can pay cash for a vacation and the more motivated you are to take vacations. The more of your pay you'll divert into that. And the more you'll save and the more trips you'll get to take great for you, Johnny. You wanna buy tires, right? Thirteen pre if and thank you for taking my call shoe arc. So shopping around for tires is confusing thing, isn't it? Yeah. It's been probably five years since I've actually had to shop retires. And there's just so many options nowadays, I mean, every local tire shop the car dealer your big box stores and even online I'm just kinda wondering what the best option is to get the best deal. Well, I suggest that anytime you're looking at tires you start your search at tirerack dot com. Okay. Have you ever been to that website? I haven't it's been awhile. So tirerack why I like them so much is they have a massive selection of tires available. And so you put in your make your case the Toyota Prius, put in your model year, and they'll show you two things they've got tire centers that will install their tires, and they show you who's available near your zip code and what they charge to install the tires. And then they show you all the choices of tires available. And so you start with that. And you get the price points. You see what it would cost to have them installed in your neighborhood? And then you take that information, and you can either right at that point. Just go ahead and buy from tirerack. But if you're like me, and you wanna make sure you're getting the best deal. Then you go. The additional steps of whatever warehouse club. You're a member of you, a member of SAM's or Costco. Checkout. What they've got. They are both very good selling tires. They may well be cheaper depending on the model you have and the other thing would be to try a couple of the local tire stores, and then making a call from that we'll subdue directly to you an offer to the retailer to get exactly. Exactly. So you can pick. So if you pick somebody who you're going to have install for you. They will be able to ship directly to them and because who wants to have tires coming to your house, and then you got to put him in the back of the Prius and drive them to the tire center that's going to install them. It's just so much smarter to have them go straight to the tire center. Right. So then so then you also see all the time. He's advertising or buy three get one free in even this morning. I saw on the news or it was an ad for by to get two free. But you have to get the maintenance package balance. All this other stuff gets involved. Yes. So so it's not even worth doing that. Right. So those are come on to get you to come in. And in that case, you don't want to take the bait unless you price the total thing, and if they're total thing by to get two free with whatever else, they make you buy if it's really. Cheaper than the other offers then go for it. Otherwise, I think it's as as much or as little time as you wanna spend here, if you spend a little more you can end up saving a lot of money on the purchase of tires one of the nice things with tirerack. By the way, is you'll see all the posted reviews on a particular tire brand and style model number you're thinking of buying. Okay. Another question. Is there a time of year? That's better to buy the has better deals on tires than any other. If there is a better time of year to buy tires. That's not something I'm aware of. Okay. You know, generally I bought tires as you know, as needed them. And you know, when the tires start to get that point where they're warning, you know, they're sent nice easy mart. Now on a tire that little ridge where the tire will tell you when it's time to replace it, do you know what I'm talking about. It's a blue. Yeah. So I think they also have the the penny tests. I guess the hits the the trae hits the head of Lincoln, and that's possibly time to change as well. Right. So I think that the more important thing rather than time of the year is the shopping you do and you sound like you're a shopper. Anyway. So I bet you're gonna find a great deal on those tires Horace is with us on the Clark Howard show. Horace? You got a letter from collection agency and doesn't seem right. Does it? What's the scoop here? I'm not sure yet been all my efforts. Sue wrote it down. I have not been successful. And I have not contacted the collection agency is still not sure I should even do that. So they sent you a letter saying you owe us this much money. We're collecting a debt do they tell you who they're collecting the debt for me one, namely, but still isn't a group in our town that has a exact name there's a couple of groups that have that name, plus some other names like a medical type collection, you know, half of all items showing on People's Credit report or medical items where maybe there was a balanced Bill, or whatever you never got something like that. But I never want you to pay anything like that unless you can truly verify that it is a valid debt of yours. Do you? About annual credit report dot com. Is it part of karma? No, it's a separate thing. It's the government sanctioned site for you to get a free copy of all three of your credit reports. And you're allowed to do it once a year. And if you go to annual credit report dot com, you can see if there is any collection listed on any of your three reports or you a credit karma member though. And so you've already been debt they are in his not showing on the too because you get to see two out of your three files there. I fast for credit report from karma, and they came out, and I've is by eighty eight hundred twenty excellent. Okay. So what I would do with this collection agency. If you don't feel you owe this on the back, they tell you about writing the ten day letter. You know, you write them, and I have a sample of the letter you send to the collection agency telling them to provide proof of the debt that you dispute the validity the debt, and if they don't have proof of it. They just flat out have to go away scraped to have you here on the Clark Howard show. Whereas about you learning ways to save more and spend less and don't let anyone ever rip you off. I've got a tip for you. That may be surprising at a time that apple has pushed the cost of the smartphone up to his highest sixteen hundred dollars for the latest iphone series. And Samsung is now getting ready to introduce a cellphone that likely will break fully featured the two thousand dollar barrier. You may see the cellphone universe is all about prices going up up up and away. But that's actually not what's going on this sale of smartphones. Around the world is in decline. Now never happened since the smartphone was invented originally buy guess, the windows phones that were the first version of the windows phones over actually terrible. But it was the first concept of the smartphone. From that forward. And especially with the introduction of the first iphone the era of the smartphone lead to ever increasing sales. But now we've turned the other way in the real news on the cellphone front is that there are more and more fantastic cell phones that are available in the range of two hundred to three hundred ninety nine dollars basically two hundred to four hundred dollars. And there are many many great choices available because the marketplace is saying you got to convince us that we want to spend money on your product. We don't gotta gotta gotta have it because we're in an incremental era with cell phones and pretty much. Anybody wants a smartphone already has one. So I want you to know that there are certain cell phone manufacturers that are. Specializing in making mid market phones. One of them is a company that used to dominate cell phones worldwide and is become basically a non factor. That's no Kia. No Kia makes some fantastic mid range. Cell phones at prices that are generally around three hundred or so with big screen phones and Motorola has phones that range from budget level at about one hundred dollars to pretty advanced phones that top out at about four hundred dollars. And so those two companies have recognized the shift in the marketplace one other brand that you may not be familiar with at all is a cult phone called the one plus one plus is a company that usually only has one or two phones in the marketplace at the time. And what they do is. They put on the most advanced hardware and features on their phones, but price them at half with the latest, iphone or Samsung would cost. So there are any of a number of strategies, you can use to find affordable phones. And if you're really on a budget, look at the Alcatel's that our smartphones that are available under one hundred dollars up or the blue phones B L U that the phones are fifty nine dollars and up. Connors with us on the Clark Howard show. Hello, connor. Hi clark. You wanna talk sewer? Yeah. That's right. So are you thinking of doing whole house sewer or solar hot water, where are you on the solar thing? Well, I'm kind of looking for guidance. I don't really know what is possible recommended. But I've I've played with a few calculators to see what costs look like and. I'm giving some conflicting information that seems to indicate that even with if there are rebates available that it's potentially like a negative kind of investment like it wouldn't ever pay itself back or it would take too long the pay itself back. So it is possible. I mean, you know, you move in Missouri. Right. So the places in the country where it has the greatest payback the states where we'll nationally get thirty percent back on whatever it costs you. But the states were has the greatest quickest payback her states with a lot of sun and high energy costs that combination. Absolutely. Makes it work Hawaii number one California number to the rest of the southwest generally works. Very well, Texas is a mixed bag because in Texas the. The energy costs are low, but the sun shine, so brightly and Florida is one of the best cases were almost no solar install. But for you in Missouri. Making the numbers work is more iffy. I see. So I if you take a typical system that will cost you what have you been quoted for whole house solar? I don't remember offhand. I wanna say it was something like twenty thousand. Yeah. Twenty is the typical quote. And so after the thirty percent credit you end up at fourteen what do you spend per month on power right now. So actually, this is a house that I don't own yet. Oh, okay. It kind of an unusual deal. But I I know somebody who rehabs houses in a particular neighborhood. And so he owns house now, and I get have kind of input on what goes into the project. And we'll the key is until you know, what kind of monthly bills that house typically runs, you're missing key variable to figure out if it would make sense or not. So there are places in the country where it's just almost a no brainer. Others where you really got to put pen to paper to see if it will in fact, pay off and right now too many questions for you to answer. Jerry joins us on the Clark Howard show. Hello, jerry. Good afternoon. Clark. Are you doing? I'm doing great today. Hope you are. I am telling me how I can be of service for you with life insurance. Thanks so much Clark. I I appreciate your time. Sure. So I have a twenty year term life insurance that I'm ten years into we have four children who are ages ten years younger on you're saying, I'm sorry, you're saying you have four John children. You are a tougher man than I am, Jerry. Well, we we have been blessed with these four young ones. It is a lot of work. Okay. So I bought this. When the first one when the first child was born, right? Correct. So how can I help? So my my wife is a stay at home. Mom, so they're at one income in the house the agent that I'm bought my first life insurance policy with you know, suggests that it's time to to renew and get more up to date since we've had a few more children since then would which I agree with. They went through a list of companies and sort of shopped around and got a a rate that they say is that the cheapest one of the most competitive one they found when my question for you is it's with a company that I'm not familiar with. I mean, I'm not indium sheri- business. I'm not sure that I would necessarily be into know of all the top companies out there. But it's not one that I've ever heard before. And my question for you is how should I factor in the reputa- ability or the the name recognition of a company for life insurance policy as opposed to the price that's being offered. So here's the key. There's no way with all the hundreds or thousands of. Life insurance companies you could know them all so you want to check their AM best rating, and that's available for you for free on the web. Make sure you get the exact name of the life insurer because there are many life insurers with similar names. So you want the full name of it? And you just put that in a Google search, whatever search engine us and you put in the name of the company, and then you follow that AM best rating. And if the company is rated A double plus, which is the highest rating by Amvest, you can buy that policy and sleep well at night, knowing it's going to be great, okay? If this company is a what cheaper than maybe the next cheapest, then you could go to a plus. But no lower. Okay. As long as you do that. It doesn't matter what they're called. You know, that you you haven't heard of maybe I haven't heard of them. It's the financial safety of the insurer is core key. And as far as how much insurance you should buy. I have a back of the envelope. Answer the agent you're talking to may have a very different one. I would say you buy at level term policy for ten times your current annual income. And that's just the simplest answer. I can give about how much coverage you should have. And again, stick with level term like you got and with really young ones in the house muc it perhaps even looking at a thirty year policy for the level term. Havi year is with us on the Clark Howard show. Hello heavier. Hi clark. Thank you for taking my call. Appreciate it. Glad to be here with you. You have a situation that I have experienced in my own life. What's going on? So by dead has been trying to take out some additional credit and loans, and he's he's kind of struggling with his short term memory. So sometimes you'll do it. And then I think he goes back and tried to find a good deal again. And at this point, he doesn't really need to do any of that his finances are kind of taking care of and we have him on a budget. But he's still is trying to do this on his own with. I think it's he's not making very good decision. This is so hard, you know, my late mother we went through progressive dementia with her, and we had to more and more restrict how she handled finances. Till she couldn't handle hers at all anymore. And it is a very uncomfortable conversation, how many siblings, do you have? I have two brothers and one of them actually has financial attorney at this point. Okay. So you're already taking those right steps. Does your dad have a checkbook anymore here? Right. So I would suggest that you as siblings get together. And then either one of you or better all of you. If it's if it's practical to do so sit down with your dad and explain to him that he's just not going to be able to carry a checkbook anymore used one. Yeah. That seems a little difficult. I know I know you wanna meet stubborn if you had met my mom while she was alive. You could really meet stubborn, and we had to do it simply by force of will. You know, the your dad trusts the three of you, doesn't he? At least two or three right? Baseball that would be a good batting average. So if there's a level of trust, I think that particularly the two that he really trusts need to just lay it out to them, and they may need to do so again, and again, if there's some short term memory loss, and it doesn't get easier from here. I just wanna tell you honestly, heavier having experienced it for my mom's dementia period was sixteen years from diagnosis to continually progressive or regressive. Whatever you call that dementia in we had to have uncomfortable conversations with her a number of times over the years. Okay. And so this is not a single conversation. One thing we did as kids. There are four of us is we had conference calls among us routinely. Not like every week. But whenever something would come up that one of us would notice it was like a red alert kind of thing or a yellow alert that we saw who mom did this or mom did that or I'm worried about mom doing this other thing. One day, our mom got in her car when she still had one and ended up loss not having any idea where she was trying to go or where she'd gone from. And that was when we had to take her car from her. And so it's all different kinds of things the you'll you'll have to deal with as siblings, and I think with this. You just you don't want to end up in a position where you gotta go. Get a, you know, a court action against your own dad to take away freedom from him. You want to do it as much as you can as a family unit communicating and you won't be perfect at it. But communicating what changes in his freedoms you'll need to make Bob is with us on the Clark Howard show. Hello, bob. How you doing? I Clark C quick question. Wondering about apps or online audio books, and I would prefer to listen to books than read them some this. What your suggestions would be? Free. Yeah. Why can help you with that? Because there are two that people one they love using the other vein like hoopla digital dot com. And overdrive dot com. And they allow you to borrow audio books e books digital movies music, and it's all tied into you having a library card from your local library system. Okay. So depending on where you live you should check. Whether there are participant and hoopla or overdrive. Okay. And you should be good to go. Thank you very much. All right. You enjoy those audio books. I will. Okay. Dinas with us on the Clark Howard show. Hi dina. Mark. How are you? Great. Thank you, Diana. You have a question for me about terminology involving auto insurance hit me with it. I was trying to lower my insurance costs model insurance saw went to their FM phones. And we're just falling around with different numbers. And they offered me something called a no fault insurance. And I was just wondering if that is the same as LA -bility insurance. And if it's not then would I be able to have enough no fault insurance with the vehicle that I have a auto loan through. So what no-fault insurances and the rules for vary by state? But generally, what it means is that regardless of who's at fault in an accident instead of the insurance companies trying to fight each other over who's gonna pay each insurer just takes care of its own insured. In some states the way it works is that if the accident is a minor one that then it's no fault. But if it goes above a certain dollar amount, then the insurance fight again. Okay. Now liability is in the event, you're in an accident. You're found fault. Let's say somebody's injured, and they wanna come after you for everything in the world, you have and so the liability insurance steps in the insurance company defends you and themselves, and they pay if required up to what you have liability insurance for. So they work very differently for different purposes and liability insurance is your shield against somebody trying to make you poor. Basically. You're listening to the Clark Howard show. Thanks for joining us today. The Clark Howard show is produced by Kim droves. Joel LARs guard, Debra Reese, and Jim airs and remember twenty four hours a day where there to serve you at Clark dot com and Clark deals dot com.

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ATP Finals Day 8 - Medvedev does it his way as event leaves London

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ATP Finals Day 8 - Medvedev does it his way as event leaves London

"Hi this is marion. Bartoli mats wilander. This is mary carillo. I'm stunned rowing. I'm lleyton hewitt. i'm andy. Murray this is yannick noah. Hi this is don sawyer from dallas texas. And you're listening to the tennis podcast. Thank you so much dawn for your lovely intro to the show katherine. How do we know. Dawn dawn is the mum of lovely star. Who was supposed to be or french. Open moscow but she sadly passed away the run this year. My mom my mom did a portrait of star Lovely portrait. And i know she. She keeps in touch with dawn and speak so highly of her and her support for the podcast and everything. So dorn is a A very prominent member the tennis podcast community say hell a headline lovely tone and i still think that lovely pictures stall with the multiple on. Yeah yeah still makes me happy that picture so they thanks so much support on really appreciate it and to everybody else. He's back to this year in kickstarter which has got us all the way. Through one hundred thirty seven episodes. I think we're up to something like that. I actually i would think it might even be one hundred and forty now And and that's what we've done so far this year and we are into the eighth and final daily from the atp finals and catherine is sitting in the room that she's going to be vacating in the morning at the two arena inside the bubble. She's going to be let out into the community but not before discussing victory in the twelfth and final edition of the finals held in london We'll get onto a few members of the place a little bit light. It first of all we should really talk about. The addition that we've just concluded and matt roberts is here. I matt very well. Thank you david. Good good so that's been watching. Catherine's been presenting live tv. I've been watching and cooking and just generally plates spinning house and And dano medvedev's been fighting his way back yet again from a seemingly well certainly a perilous position in a match to win the title. the shipments. isn't it you say paradis position medvedev says of you right where i won't eat. That's that's true. He's a revelation that guy isn't it. I sort of forget how cool he is from the us open of a couple of years ago it was two years ago. This is what our game. And then we got into the sort of the bit where he went to corporate medvedeva and talking about the metro may be titles and and that's all we would have a now. He's melding the two perfectly of really enjoyed downhill medvedev's this week. Yeah yeah i mean the match was good and everything but how soon before we can talk about his celebration or lack thereof about match. I spilled our way. I can do that so right matt. They came in these two. What was the head to head between these two when they started this match. I think it was three one team. Yeah and one of those at the. Us open recent. He wasn't it where i remember in the pre match press conference so the one after we'd bayton the dow medvedev said when i played team in the. Us open match. I played really well. And that's a measure of how well dominic thiem was playing. And how many difficulties he can. Cause and i i remember watching that match and i remember i think i probably a motive even picked medvedev to win or at least i felt like he had a really good chance because he was he was playing wild and all the reasons but ahead of this one he was aware of how destructive team is an really. He's a once again. It's never slow burner. Is he a slow starter or was team. Just coming out of the blocks at a miles hour. I don't think medvedev necessarily had a slow start today. I just think he played one terrible game on serve in that first set and lost his serve. I mean i feel like just needs to sort of take the conversation we had yesterday about medvedev and inserted into this podcast because it felt like a copy basically of the actually played against nadal. He was actually probably certainly as good a player in the first set but one bad game cost him. It was really inexplicable is a double fault. It was two forehand errors. Smash into forty love up was it was. It was a really bizarre moment. If you were trying to tanka game which of course he wasn't but that's what it would look like. Yeah he he suddenly comes find the court and then then he was hanging on a bit in the second set and team was looking like the better player. I felt he certainly had a couple of break points. Either at three or four three whatever. That game was when medvedev was serving and team missed missed a forehand. He just pushed it long and that was his chance. Because after that. I thought medvedev began playing way more fluently and he did exactly what he did against. Nadal started changing the tactics midnight she came to the net twenty times in that second set. I mean i know. We talked about his flexibility and the options at his disposal. But the main way i would describe medvedev is a baseliner and someone who is going to away. He does have the options but he really used those options in this match. And i just thought it was the second match in a row where he's out thought an opponent and also the second row where he's physically outlasted an opponent. I thought the doll quite fatigued. But the end of that semi final and i thought team did whereas medvedev just kept going just kept getting stronger and kind of was the quintessential daniil medvedev performance. I think so you win the title. Catherine you can talk about in celebration. Just assure. wasn't it. It was the coolest shrug in the history of sports. And he's he's totally owning it. This is this is my thing. Now is i. Celebrate with a shrug and i loved. Harry said that last year in the us open. He thought to himself. Great players have a thing they have something iconic and he thought. I want to thing and any decided that it's going to be beaten not celebrate. What really what a great brand to have. I'm the he said. He said in in in professional football or soccer. If you're in america you see plays sometimes score and not celebrate now personally. I really furious when that happens in for my football team. If somebody scores from my team and doesn't celebrate winds me up. They usually do in preseason when the matches matter or they they do when they're playing a former club which i kind of understand but it it started to become if you do celebrate against former club year complete silence of but here where you've got everybody fall into the knees jumping punch aena climbing the crowd to have one black who's just won the biggest title of life and is ecstatic. Just look like he's just held. Serve for two one hundred serb because the other thing he did not only to just sort of shrug. he'll say patted the ball back to the ball kid and just walked off. It was so boiler it was just great and have the so so for wellness and and humility to just admit it. Yeah would've thing. This is my thing pretend like oh spontaneous length. Oh am i doing that. I didn't realize yeah and his thing is so on naff like so many things are just now. You know people like gareth bale in his hot. And you know the one the borough and each to their own but as stroke is really wonderfully and he says he has to stop himself from celebrating his mistakes here last year. When you know i was still experiencing. Us open fever after you guys it because of you I interviewed him before the tournament. And i asked him about his little dance. You know it's now one of the all-time great tennis gifts. I said i said if you if you you win it will you do the dawn's little twinkle in his eyes said. Yeah obviously are. Jinxed didn't win any matches said the dawn's was off the menu anyway. So yeah he's he's gone from from said if the method of wiggle which was a little bit. Peter korda scissor kick back in the late nineties. Which is what he used to do. But the problem with an remember when andrea petkevich used to have her dance dance. And and i and the problem is those are great when they happen the wants but then when they become the trademark and have to keep rolling them out sometimes. Y- you don. I can say that. I really want to do them. But this works for every enj-. Although i i do slightly. Sorry for photographers. Yes from l. about that. Yeah she she said. This is a nightmare. Because i wonder whether now with medvedev matches they're going to sort of reframe and go for the great loser shots because know they're not gonna get anything out of medvedev although if you just capture that peak of the shrug whether lips are their downturn in the shoulders are up you do with a think really know if he becomes so known present present in the public consciousness that people know it i think at this stage i get that it's about him owning it to this degree is i quite liked the idea that the opponents didn't know that that's what he was doing. I i love the sort that the dow might be looking across the net and thinking beat man. It seems to me nothing to him. I still think cool. He's that cool that he doesn t even that it's not a big deal but it's not that is it because he's because he's owned it and said this is my thing i think it negates stopped. Personally he's not trying to pretend that he doesn't care. Will these two too cool to care. He's telling you. I really care but i want to have a cool thing but it wouldn't it be cooler if he really didn't know isn't cool or okay. He did care but they didn't know you cared. That's the that's the thing. I think it's cool to care. And it's fine for to know you care. This is a public service broadcast from the tennis. Podcasts he's like a. wwe character is our love it. so this isn't this isn't the metronomic winning titles than david. This is the velociraptor coming of age before our is returning to his former glories right. He's just he's just balanced it catherine to perfection. He's balanced that euphoric moment of going to war with a new york crowd on these. He's he's married that winning and also having a twin clinton that we kind of know about. But you know. I'm really liking reluctant. And mike word was his tennis. Good as well today. I do hope we're still going to get some twenty nine thousand nine. Us open antics from him. Of course we will not forget what he said to the to the empire. The your siphoned recently. Yeah for sure he What did he say it was against team because he had he had a very small meltdown in that first set against team at the us open where he He disagreed with a call actually crossed the net to go and look at it which is a big yes no no and then and then he said something like my sincere apologies to the us open. I killed killed somebody. My sincere apologies. Incredible sarcasm. but but he's shown that he can win even when he's doing well okay. Maybe not quite win. Didn't win the us open last year but he can still have brilliant results while doing all that kind of stuff but also he can win when he's in just completely in the so nike was in this week. He does seem to have both traits which is perfect because that makes me think that hopefully we will see more antics from him because antics fine but antics. Winning is is such a great combination especially winning the way because his kids game is really interesting especially on these faster surfaces like an indoors the way he just. It's almost like he computer game where you have a secret weapon and you just decide you just decide when to utilize it and you flick the switch. And that's what he did in team did not seem to know that that was coming. It's almost like a computer game where you don't know the controls when you start and you have to figure them out as you go and by the end you're an absolute pro kind of what he's done in these those two matches and i think he he really kind of reward you if you watch the whole match. That's very very true. He's he's not a highlights. No real plan does hit some incredible shots which grateful highlight reels. But the actual enjoyment for medvedev comes from seeing it through from start to finish because you see all the options at his disposal and you see him changed the way he's playing and that is that is so satisfying. I think for anyone who just enjoys watching tennis being played this. This is so much to kind of learn from him. I think i. I wasn't able to attend the dominic. Thiem press conference because i was recording highlights links at the time. But i think he. I think he's confused. I think he might be confused about why he lost that match. I'd do you think he understands why he lost that much. I mean he he a little bit like medvedev talking about them match the. Us open team. Said i only replied one. There's any one point. I regret in the home pretty much the whole matter. He said I think. I think he is what he was up against tonight. Exactly but it's far more simple to if it's you know should have done this differently. I mean yeah. I don't think visit his peak today even in that first set the that he one. I don't think it was at a peak. Dominic thiem by any means a tool. Yeah i wonder if he really. I wonder if he really understands why he why he lost. I think he. I think he seemed a bit bamboozled in that in that third set. What do you think i definitely think. He wasn't at his best today team. But i think a lot of that is because of what medvedev was doing to probably Along gates the matches and elam gates the rallies and just makes you think he just ties ties opponents. That's a little. But i think but i think maybe dominic thiem would think. Yeah but that's what jackovitch i hit through. I've got his number. I a hang tag off on patient or wait for moment and then i explode. That's the formula and if it's good enough against the world number one wasn't it good enough today. You said the the way that he's confusing him as tarring and making him have to think differently because suddenly off way through the match. She's coming to twenty times in a sense. I mean that's just extraordinary. And that isn't something that i guess djokovic does he does. He does a very rich like qualities that solidity from the baseline. We don't really see yovich. Just suddenly come to the net twenty times in a set. I guess team what i would say is This is this is one match and did beat medvedev a few weeks ago. The us open. I think they're going to have an interesting rivalry. And i think you could kind of compare it to sit surpass last year. You know team that final to sit surpass but that doesn't necessarily mean that sits a pass got the better of the rivalry. It meant that they were going to be close in the future and teams investor. Five is different vibe is different. Teams teams trajectories still so incredibly good and upwards. This is just a minor bump in the road that you'll have to think about when he next plays medvedev but i think it'd be a stretch to say that he's got a matchup problem with methodist. Just based on this by the way We tweets from stephen malloy one of alison. Who was entertains me with his tweets and and he actually said something here that i found really It'll stay with me. May i say that medvedev is the perfect demonstration of on court. Coaching should never be allowed. His massive skill is his ability to problem solve in real time and technically changed his approach to turn a match. Why should this be negated for cheap tv entertainment. very compelling. i'm not disagreeing with it. I would say tv. Entertainment is not cheap. Pays the bills. I didn't mean my bills. I mean it will say pays my bills. I mean everyone's bills. It pays for tennis to happen. Particularly at the moment i think just dismissing entertainment value as frivolous isn't really fair. But yeah i still think there's a compelling point there for sure on match point within seconds of matchpoint been secured and within seconds of having enjoyed. The denno medvedev celebration. I got a text from miami again. It didn't work. we probably less value. Yeah great well. A text from my mother said congratulations. She finally got a prediction right. Like god you being trolled by. Your mom really enjoyed the match. She said that was it. That was the tweet. Tweet tweet twitter. Sorry not the tweet. Reads like it's wait. She maybe she asked twitter account. Maybe she's under some weird name that i don't know about. Maybe now i mean that would be quite something so anyway. He's the champion very well done to have and and he was also quite interesting talking about australia and the tennis of next year and just the unknowns and heyman tape. It's really that it's really uncertain. Time just just at the moment having got its feet back under it as a sport suddenly everything the foundations are rocking right. Now and these. Next few days i mean when we spoke last night at that time ten straight hadn't released any official so to statements will cry tiny has spoken in the last twenty four hours. In fact i think a couple of hours after we spoke. He didn't sign off la other than to say that he was in constant dialogue with the government. And you know. They're trying to get clarity as soon as possible. Because they understood the gravity of of the uncertainty but it's Yeah trying to read anything into what's happened at the end of the year now and cast it forward to next year is a little bit pointless really because we just don't even know where next he'll start but Hopefully it's two or three days. We may have some further information so anything else. While i was going to say do we need to have the. What does this mean discussion. I take i take your point about the difficulty of forecasting. But you know this is. It fails like quite a significant couple of days. We've just had in terms of medvedev and team beating djokovic. All i mean what are we reading into that. I mean as much as i agree with everything you just said david. You have sort of the chi- bush on the tennis podcast there by saying forecasting and is pointless costs for the next Well the next forever to kick started backing. It never know confirmed events. We really need to be able to. Forecast inspect eight. Don't you worry. We've got a wealth of ideas to ask i to dig into the keep away from you while you doing twelve hours teddy everyday in a but tomorrow. We'll me when we have the meeting. That you don by yet but anyway actually just just more generally died. I'm sitting here thinking well. What does it mean sign is it went sits passan dimitrov in all of these other people one when we thought this was a massive moment now if them had reached clan slam final. Look i i feel like Medvedev are the clearly the next best behind those three actually. It's quite interesting. Hearing tame site that he would put rublev in that little mix of players based on his his five titles he would he would he. He's the one player he would put into the group Amongst the ranking positions as being a top player in the world right now. But i still feel that when you get to the slams. It's just different and these people can still got to figure out that way winning them when the others of that now team yes he has one one but it is still the year that nadal didn't play and now that jackovitch got defaulted and roger federal. Wasn't there the australian open when it does happen. We'll be fascinating if everybody's fit. We know that jackovitch. He's amazing not told them and the dow. There's no real reason. She has injury problem that he should be sub pau given the way he looks right now. It's it's still different. We've got that evidence for the last three years we've got that evans. We've we had dimitrov losing takata edmund. We at the australian open. We verve lose into miller's row niche horribly. You remember And then we had sits passer cutting remember. He i think he lost will be quaking if he sees rounding his section of the draw. So you know. I just it's different and and it'll change eventually but i don't feel absolutely. I feel very confident in in dominant team as as being a regular part of of the big four or five naff you want to call it medvedev as much as i'm impressed with them. I still think some proving today on that school I i certainly agree with you. Big big picture. We need we need to wait for the slams until we stop kind of declaring this as the dreaded words changing of the guard. But i do think agree with catherine. This addition felt different to dimitrov verve and sit surpass partly because of what medvedev and team already done in the slams and also i think what they did in this tournament they both beat an adult and djokovic at the slams. I always talk about this kind of pack. Hunter thing that the big three of got going on. I think it's i think it significant to players have shown that they can beat two of the big three in the same event and convert that to best of five medvedeva's never won a five set match. He's he's zero. Wins six losses when it when it goes to five cents. That's that's quite a big hurdle you would think he would need to overcome but something about medvedev physically outlasting the down team the way the team beating jovic in that style of not quite having that s tennis but winning they kind of did to the big three what they've been doing for everyone for years and if it felt to me the most significant data point yet i suppose of the of the gradu- the gradual generational shift. This is to say that a few weeks ago we were gobsmacked by the level that the dial jackovitch were producing in that french open final. And saying you know it's no wonder no one's been able to break through. So i do i take that as well but it felt it felt significant to me these last two days I i perceive how brilliantly put that fun is very compelling we we both listen to the gulf podcast no laying up and they had that sorta conversation after the most recent major golf tournament the us masters and they're talking about how many slam how many majors. Aw dustin johnson and Rory mcilroy and brooks koepka going to end up with an and they they suffer from the same recent see issues as we do how difficult it is to to put those outta mind and get some context of all the papal matt's. You're the one i trust so swept up bay Anyway medvedev medvedev got me a consolation goal today in the predictions for the. Because i think i was on minus a hundred and sixty one points at the start of the day and i'm now on the on minus one hundred thirty five or something like that official predictions. Yes we did catherine. upn right. yep so. I was an even in the game today today today. Right okay one. But it's like. I said it's a consolation goal. I've still been beaten nine one by you and six one by matt effectively. We'll take that a gatherings when everybody and there is a graph that will show that and katzrin looks at it on a daily basis. Well now this doubles and your meltzer loss. See the considerable notes about that i do. I do know it's cool. Half and nikola tich who why they played together for the final time. They've just one title six to three six ten five and the split up just won their first title lost time. Is the only team ever to win their first doubles title at the atp finals the spring up you would think you would save that conversation until afterwards mctighe dumped him to go to play with permit as well. You assume i mean who did the dumping i. These are these are the really important question so cool is going to play with lucas kubat. Lucas cubo who's playing here with marcelo. Melo and an eclectic is going to play with mattie package. Now nick lima giamatti povich. Both croatian said that could be potentially with a view to the olympics although if that were if they were they were inclined to form partnerships with a view to olympics. You'd think they would have done that this time last year. Whenever is experiencing in olympics to happen in august of this year. So i sort of think. Daniela hantuchova made the points on all prime coverage that she thinks the covid situation and travel restrictions make plays more inclined to want to play in the in the country so that literally they are nearby them to able to hit with them practice with they also grounded home but i yeah i mean having said all if that it seems really bonkers that they went into that much today knowing that even if they had their respective best days on the tennis school and make no mistake. I think it was that for both cool. Hoffa make tich. They were going to part ways off is ensuring that they could never have such day again together enough together again. But you're greg don yellow reproduce. Greg said i think the split will last six months and daniela asides. Greg said i predict. They'll get back together in six months daniels at order that long so rich fun. Yeah i mean who knows what's going on behind the scenes hate one another. You know it's like you never know what's going on in a person's relationship and you know when a when a celebrity couple that everybody's sort of in love with from a fall split up and you go. Why can't they just stayed together. They seem happy together. It seems you know. They looked so good together. Maybe it's like that but people don't necessarily just everybody now what's happening today. Fit the hated another. They probably wouldn't be winning one of the biggest titles in the world together Have such a great strength. They beat edwards lying yoga meltzer today who as individuals are stronger stronger tennis players. And they they. They beat them and they were the best team this week on. The basis of the the sort of typical double skills of real understanding is a team. Anticipation this instinctive awareness of where one another on the court. And whether they're going to move to. I mean that's the holy grail for doubles team isn't it. I mean yes. There's a chance that goal hof will have that with coup bought and make tissue. We'll have that with parv ish package but seems like a big risk to me And especially for cool off. Because he's a guy who doesn't win much. He had lost fifteen of the seventeen finals with about seven or eight different partners. He is chopped and changed suddenly found someone and they've won one of the biggest titles available and it is no more i mean. Maybe there's something in that movie with so many partners. There's something about him but we we need to do. A doubles denied about this stuff. To find out what really goes deep dive in doubles. I am despots today desperate. we'll get on By the way just quickly actually we should. We should talk about your meltzer. This is this is. This is his final match of his career or is planning to play something next year. If it's on there was some confusion over this. I think supportive. I think it's sort of the answer to both. Those things is both those things correct. I think this is sort of. His first is lost competitive proper match of his career but he kind of hope to be able to play a couple of testimonials next year tool intensive purposes. His relationship with at roosevelt salah is coming to an end. Georgia veselin is teaming up with henri kontinen next year Your meltzer he's thirty nine. I think he's already accepted a job with the australian federation starting in february but he he basically wants to be able to play in front of a crowd again. He wants to be able to go out in front of a crowd which is very understandable so the australian federation have given him the ok and the grand slams of i think indicated that they would be amenable to giving him a wildcard on. He wouldn't need. Well cody especially. It depend to plays with me up in the air because that were rows of worship vessels is trusted off into the sunset continent. He is indicated that he if it were possible would play the australian open and wimbledon in order to go out hype flee in front of some crowds. But that feels very uncertain. So i'd say i'd say they would have been a good portion of yoga meltzer's brain today. That was treating. That is his his swansong. Yeah now we're still a lot about how the landscape is changed inevitably in tennis. The moment and i just as a quick snapshot of that. I was just looking at the the prize. Money won this year in the singles by daniel medvedev which is one point five six four million dollars so one and a half million dollars. Last year stephanus sit surpass one more than a million dollars more than that he wouldn't two point six five million and medvedev's one one point five six million It's pretty jarring. Isn't it to see. Say the difference. The total prize fund is five. Point seven million dollars compared to nine million a year ago. yeah that's the new world wherein just to the man. I'm i'm i'm pretty. Impressed staggered at the numbers. Still say big. Frankly i mean so. See huge dropoff. But it's yeah given the circumstances young from seventeen thousand fans twice a day you not sessions of seventeen thousand people hospitality strewn nothing. I think it's pretty impressive. The numbers still. They are great so it is the twelfth year This tournament came to the end of the first time in two thousand nine and was one bhai. Nikolai davydenko In the final. And he beat roger federer along the way for the first time in his career being. I think he got a horrendous record against him until that match it was the one that began with andy. Murray facing one. Martine del potrero. I remember the first group match In two thousand nine and then in the end despite the fact that he beat del potrero. It was del potrero edged. Murray out i think by single game in the game. Percentages into the semifinals It's that was back in the days when nobody well. I say back in the days in the uk government. We seem still to be in those days but nobody could probably work an excel spreadsheet. They've they've really got their act together since that stint trace gag. They know it's looking at the play from back. Then and they were playing two matches from seven pm. singles singles and the doubles and the doubles. I and the the singles was not before eight forty five and they had one three hour epic and never forget the exodus of people who suddenly realize to chips. Were about to close down and there's no way of extending them And yeah. There were quite a few teething problems. In that first year i mean inevitably you know given the scale of the events in being new but it's been a massive success really has no way beyond what i could have expected him and she said best part of cortra- of a million people through the doors every year And yeah the the the city is the people of the city just really took it to their hearts just loved going out for an night out. There was a different atmosphere in the night sessions to what was in the afternoon. Sessions the matches once always great. I think i think you can maybe a bit misty eyed about the quality of an old but often you would get the end of the year and apply would lose a tight. I sent in the second. There was no chance that anybody. Who's gonna make a comeback you know but what stands out few catherine d. Do you have any specific favorite memories of of this tournament. Goodness was i was that first. Final davidenko doubt portray as a as a fan with my dad. I think you organized me tickets for that and we will. We decided not to get tube because of fears about getting getting home because the horror stories ear about trying to get the cheap out of there was so severe we. We drove and in typical me and my dad fashion. When when i'm with my mom where you know an hour early for everything but my dad. It underestimated the traffic. We were very very late. And i think we saw the final couple of games of nikola davidenko winning the title which respects dovidenko. Possibly wasn't exactly what we've been hoping to witness says well we'd miss the devil. We'd missed every competitive portion of the singles. We just sort of got their foot. Defend coast traifi. Lift living the tennis spectator dream. It was still very enjoyable. David thank you. Thank you for the tickets. Did you organize you a dental vora. I also i mean i've rivalry referenced. I vividly remember watching on the telly. After that final group stage match involving they'll portray when extraordinarily no pity new. Nobody knew what the scenario was and yes. It was the tournament's first year in london but the tournament it existed before that with the same rules but didn't have a computerized mechanism for this extraordinary that that wasn't automated and other remember one of the all time hilarious rants from my colleague bbc radio jonathan over and who just started right aging the people that were in front of him not knowing what was going on and meanwhile i think the patriots finished match he was. I think he was hitting some balls. Would call us. Terrorists on the court whilst murray was treating. Does anybody know what's going on. Am i through Jonathan was shouting. Look these clowns with their clipboards. Tried to work it all out But i mean you know to remember it. I mean they footnote really because these problems never surfaced again the as soon as that happens they realized the things they needed to write the next year and the organization. I mean i'm slightly biased. Because they organize of the one of the brain behind it was chris commode and he's somebody. I worked with for many years at queens. But it's just exactly what he's good at it just putting on an event understanding that you could play twice a day with two completely separate audiences and impact replace out. It's not roger federer. who's on the order plan. And that's what happened so yeah it's been a massive success. You got any highlights about personal favorites. Yeah lots. I think it was interesting. The point you made about maybe we can get a bit misty eyed about the actual tennis. I think the way. I will look back on the tennis. That's been played. Is that considering the era that the atp finals where the oh to considering the players there was probably not not very high number of sort of absolute classic action that you might expect considering. This was basically the year of the big four. But i would say that every year pretty much. There was some kind of saving grace match. You know there was tended to be one epic that you remembered and i think those those matches thinking team djokovic. Last year mary. Round niche and twenty sixteen federal. Rinker twenty fourteen. It was always always some sort of epic match. Felt like but i think one of my main kind of impressions of it is i. I went to in two thousand ten. And i think the only time any tennis never been to before that was wimbledon. And i think what was so important about this event. We kind of take it for granted. Now because we're so used to it but they marketed themselves and branded themselves as completely different to wimbledon for that london audience who may have only experienced modern. And they sort of showed you. That tennis could be different. Could have flashing lights. it could have player entrances. It could have a heartbeat. And i think the show has always been incredible and they've and they've always had some some wonderful atmospheres as well Yeah i actually find myself feeling really quite sad today. it was it was. It was mainly catherine's fault because she just did such a wonderful pitch about the end of the oh to air on prime reflecting on kind of the poignancy of being there and it really did make me think this event is not getting the send off it deserves and i think part of that is because we do this much in tennis. It doesn't happen that you leave a venue that much one of the things. I love so much about tennis. Is it goes back to the same places the same physical spaces every year. And you know walking around the grounds slams or the mouse to series five hundred. You feel a sense of history and a sense of meaning and suppose. It's the same with venues theaters football stadiums. they all. They'll have some kind of atmosphere of everything that's over the performances on the moments that have happened in the past and i didn't know they kind of become a bit of the fabric and they create this character and the atp finals a been at the too long enough. That venue had a tennis character to it. When you went into that stadium you remembered the previous matches. And i love the idea of that event moving around. I think it's probably the right time. And i think it should move around but it been there long enough so many people have creative memories there and i think that was that was why. It's kind of sad to leave them behind us oppose. Yeah gosh wonderfully it has been just a vessel. Has it for the tennis in. It's exactly as he said. It's become part of the fabric of it. And i i've had i'm experiencing that real end event sadness not right now. I'm very happy to be doing. This put cost recording with even very grateful for it. Because as i was walking the very short walk from the arena. Back to the hotel is practically the same building. I had the i had a real heavy heart and she wondered if i would get that this year because usually usually that end event. Depression lull comes result of the The loss of adrenaline and the loss of energy the loss of the rush the gap from being uncertain event with seventeen thousand people. And and everything that comes with that And the answer is i mean. I'm sure it's amplified because it. It's the poignancy of the lost event lost. Its hold here in london. But i can confirm very much. Do have that end of events. Feeling of sadness. And i think that that probably tells me something about the the weak the week that i've experienced that in spite of in spite of there not being any crowds and that has made me desperately sad and it has notes that failing hasn't been alleviated over the course of the week. If anything actually it's it's got worse But in spite of thought this event has given given main energy is energized. may in its house. Give me that russia of adrenaline. That they sort of event should and Yeah i'm gonna. I'm gonna miss it this week. It's has done for this. Country is just let people know that tennis isn't just the summit it's november and that's what's been happening for the last twelve years that the country has been aware of tennis in november. Which if you considering a years time. I think cheering can be a fantastic home for us. I think that that could be a wonderful energy there. I think it's the right time for that. Country with the amounts of thriving tennis players coming out of it and the and the infrastructure. They have it. I think it can be fantastic. You know pandemic willing etc but the the effects of of it in this country is going to be significant in that. The bbc for instance are not going to cover it next year. This is the end of the bbc tv coverage of this event now at least for the time being. They don't have any plans to cover it next year. Now i'm sure it'll be wonderfully presented. Hopefully by catherine where to go on site in gironde because she did an incredible job. And i'm not saying that because she's looking at me she did But obviously terrestrial coverage is is a big deal for awareness of the sport And yeah as i said. Two hundred fifty thousand people the best part of normally come to the event in november and that was a huge boon to the sport over the last twelve years without question it. It showed people that tennis didn't have to be summer and it didn't have to be strawberries and cream and pins it didn't have to be blazes in tradition. I think there's a place for all of that. And i love so many aspects of i'm not trashing wimbledon and tradition. It's it's beautiful and it's wonderful but it is not for everyone and it's not necessarily in inclusive and i realized this. This event hasn't been the peak of inclusivity. it's still been expensive and sometimes to get to etc such a bit. It definitely has made tennis accessible in this country to completely different demographic of people i have friends and acquaintances and friends of friends. I have never even considered going to wimbledon but have come to this and that's going to be missed. All of that is going to be missed. I hope it will have a legacy. our hope. for for generation of people it will have made them think about ten and a slightly different way. But it will certainly be missed for set of memories and Yeah really cheifs that. We've we've been out of covering dinah podcasts. This week even though matt. And i were able to be on site this time. But it's great you were and to give us a real insight into what what it felt like to be there. She we on julian because he feels a bit. Dan dumb doesn't it. We do we do have one or two loose ends to to pick up from last night because you may remember. I did ask the very important question. What is a maim and of looked it up and i can tell you Mom that amine is an amusing or interesting item such as a caption pitcher video or genre of items that is spread widely online especially through social media. So they then. I went to look up in dictionary which said that. Memes are graceful exquisite entities bestowed upon us bestowed on us filthy peasants which is sporadically known to drift one into a sea of existential crises. This is also an exemplar method of eliminating depression once and for all when all was lost. Memes cured my depression. That's what the dictionary says. i'm. Catherine was a meme yesterday. Somebody has also written that they would like a medium of me asking. What is a male study memes. Now can you i think. There're of modules in university courses on memes could see catherine spikes right now Yeah i'm not sure it was a name. I have an enduring an enduring impact to be a meme we around me. Podcasts official me. Otherwise i've had a couple of people jumped to my defense about greece to the alastair cooke impersonator and also actor said david lowe tennis's right greece to his great michelle. Pfeiffer is everything can some of the songs are absolute choon hashtag cool rider. I'm not saying he's to isn't fine own decent all. Good whatever you want to call it. I'm just saying you don't talk about the grease movies. It's greece and then some subsequent related movies that may or may not be good and you may or may not have enjoyed and good luck to you if you did. That's fine but it's it's greece. Promises recently discovered tennis. Podcast which i love however the grease two discs from with to sport was a hard dr to take david. Low tennis's greasy. This is meant to be to finish on greece's iconic and to a good film riding on his coattails nobody. Nobody talks about the grease movies. It's not a thing. I'm not trashing greece to. It's an enjoyable watch. That greece stands on its own. Actually agree was the has ever been a sequel better than the original toy story two. That's controversial. I love toy story. Yes they're all great. And i'm i'm padding. Yes strongly agree with paddington. To shrek to it is yet. But these visas for levi's which i think is okay to treat as a collection bronx unlike greece and greece. T separately agreed. We're gonna shut. Yes we do. And i should say i think these are our last shoutouts of the year if if anyone is has been listening to all one hundred thirty seven episodes waiting for their shoutout and not in this next group of three. Then please get in touch and i will check my list but i think these are our last three and i should say that we still have some intros left so we will be using those remaining podcasts. If not hurt your intro yet to come this is episode. One hundred and forty. I am just able to confirm that right. Okay so the final. Three shoutouts. And i'm gonna do them as a group. They are four. Trevor lawrence barbara law and sally ann lol well to those related to maybe tehema parents for sunny. Yukio legend with a magnificent anti take. Appreciate your support and thanks mom. Does that mean you. Mom and dad contributed separately kickstarter. Mom's been set push out. Say my mom's been doing and i came into. I'm going to be big enough at show here. But i i sort of a guys them a call this morning and Said being walk in and they said we were just about to go and we thought we'd watch half the podcast before the war can half after it watch We listened to off the podcast before and half after it but then the story about the fall began halfway through and they couldn't. They couldn't leave the house until it finished. And then they said they were founded over using. So we'll hell. Trevor and barbara and also sally also in the same way. That greece and greece should perhaps free two separate entities barbara and trevor. You are greece. Sally and you were the also also great and enjoyable but separate greece. Two i think this is my favorite shoutout millions of the year. We had a great one in australia. Do you remember where where where the person who received a shoutout davidson. Oh she staying in my house factual great one. I was so confident that i had a. I had a trio of the same law family magnificent great job. I've got one additional cedo shoutout. Well no just shoutout frankly. An additional submission is not a member of the family or impostor member of the family. Their names which is why. I want to give michelle folks. I'm so terribly sorry. I was stopped by a group of people who i think. We're involved with the ball kids in the lobby. This evening as i was returning from the hotel well so was having my Poignant sad walk back from the the hotel and stays. They stopped me and astra photos. They loved the podcast and There were three of them. And i'm so so so sort of lost embarrassed in having busy having profound thoughts that i didn't ask for your names But one of them. As i as i said oh thanks so much bye. Stars is giving me a around the laws look towards the lift. I wish i'd acknowledged that because it was the loveliest thing. But i didn't know what to do that. It was so nice really say thank. You probably haven't listened this far because the minutes has been made reviewing greece. To if you have those your would and thanki we. We know that nobody's listening to the spirit so we can have a good laugh and do whatever we like Camille some mention bitty jane. Yeah because today kings seventy seven th birthday so happy birthday billie. Jean king seen videos for playing tennis on her birthday. Yes our great so bit faster But we were given some news today on billy king seventy seventh day. That was equally magnificent. Catherine the floor is yours. Well i've become a twenty twenty lockdown cliche. And i've i've got a puppy i've gone and done it folks rosie. If listening i still love you very very much. You'll my favorite but Fans of the show will know how very much i fell in love with magnus this summer in spite of his pooing live on the podcast. That's our durable. He was relieved. Show if anyone wants to go back to that moment so i i will soon be welcoming magma sister into the whisk family and she will be and is already called billie-jean because well i mean because not michael jackson basically. It's very important to say. Name does to bill jean king and not after the music of michael jackson and i'm very where a spend the rest of her life explaining that she's not named after michael jackson. But i still think it's a worth while price to pay for her being named after someone say iconic and inspirational wonderful we very much look forward to meeting berry jane and Yeah there are photos on our twitter and instagram accounts. If you led to overlook she's she's lovely so you're going to right now. That's it tennis. Podcast over the finals in twenty twenty then over for twenty twenty. Because we're going to be back next week come on. There's a big smile. Is that what it is. I thought that was a grimace. A it's a small magnificent tomorrow yup broadcasting to relieve it until we have the maton. I've got planned right very firm. Tuesday there folks definitely not monday but yes we. We're not gonna stop. We're going to be back next week and then we're going to be with you throughout december's well we are gonna be busy planning as well. Twenty twenty one which may not have an australian open in january. That means relieved is under works in my head as we speak anyway. We'll say we'll see what happens but yeah crowd. Funding campaign for twenty twenty one begins on the first of december. We have a link in show notes right now if you'd like a reminder on the day the exact moment that we send that live if you want to be at the front cue for any of the various categories that we we've got pet mascots and we've got lots of those predictions competitions and all sorts of things so yeah thanks to everybody practice over the course of this year but also just thanks. Everybody that's listened and taken something out the show and enjoyed it and sent us really nice nice notes to let us know we really appreciate it. Thank you yeah. It's it's just been a brilliant week. I think it's funny. I mean i've i've missed being the to this. This is the first one. I've not been at In its twelve years. But i've probably enjoyed this the podcast process of the last week more than the other years when we were there. Just being we've had we've had a bull. It's been amazing we have to. Douglas heard as a full ten minutes of laughing. That didn't make it in two yesterday. I can confirm that yes. That's absolutely true Yeah met catherine. Thank you so much for doing that. So i love it. I love it and we'll be back with more of them in the feature carry very soon.

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How conspiracy became our new religion

The Big Story

26:21 min | 5 months ago

How conspiracy became our new religion

"It's now been almost two weeks since. America voted more than a full week. Since it became abundantly clear that joe biden would indeed be the next president of the united states and know the previous president has still not conceded. Allow me now to. I'm sorry for this but context is important. Read to you a few of these social media posts that donald trump has made since the election was called for his opponent rigged election exclamation mark. That's it that's the whole post. We are winning by a lot. In all caps. The people will not accept this rigged election exclamation mark. Get the general idea. But today's story is not about trump's delusion it's about the platforms that he uses to spread it heading into this election twitter facebook and instagram. All made a lot of noise about how they would handle. Disinformation manipulation and other election interference. So now that we are two weeks out from the void. How did they do and what will they do now and in the weeks to come. Because here's the thing as much all these platforms might want to get rid of the need to fact. Check the claims of the president in real time at disclaimers in warning labels to dozens of posts. Daily this is a real business problem for them. Facebook and twitter might say that they don't wanna be the battlegrounds where elections are fought. Disinformation is spread. But where would they be without it. There are a lot of people right now looking at donald trump's twitter feed and wondering if the platform will suspend him or ban him once he's no longer president but ask yourself. How much do you think that. Donald trump is worth to twitter's bottom line. And what do you think would happen to that platform without him. I'm jordan heathrow things. This is the big story. Jesse hirsh is a researcher. A futurist he is the author of meta views which you can find it. Meadow views dot ca. He's our favorite person to talk to about social media. Hello jessie jordan. Jesse how did in your mind The major social networks do during the. Us election is the easy answer is not bad not good. I mean they were certainly caught between a rock and a hard place both when it comes to the pressure and expectations on the responsibility but the extent to which they were the battleground the whether it was for lies and misinformation or legitimately mobilize base. Get out the vote. I think more than any election previous social media was a real kind of fire. Pit of not just political organizing but political deception. And i think that's also why there is so much attention placed on these companies but also Equally so much expectations for them to be responsible and in that sense. You know it's kind of a size sort of a right in the middle of not great. Not bad could have been worse but they could have done a lot better as well. What do you look for. When you log onto Let's say facebook or twitter And try to figure out whether or not i guess to use your term. The battleground is is a fair place. I think it really depends both upon the subjective experience. And what i find interesting about your question is what you look for. I think everyone looks for different things on these platforms. I'm particularly interested in governance model which both gets into how you deal with controversial topics. I think twitter To a certain extent play the lead role in the way in which they added disclaimers or added information even to the president's tweets when it was misinformation but the other side to this of course has been cunanan and the extent to which conspiracy theory not only played a big role in the election but really was the driving force of a lot of social media activity both good and bad and this is where the social media platforms. I think we're the most interventionist or sort of tried to demonstrate the greatest amount of responsibility but even then i think critics are right to point out that it might have been too little too late. The damage that was done. Let's say on facebook or even youtube by people organizing around cunanan and spreading the related conspiracy theories you know all of that it was not just Having the potential dangerous impact on the election. But it's going to be the legacy. It's going to be the kind of conflict or a disunity. If you will coming after the election that's going to make a politics really messy really vitriolic. I play with this information. And i think part of the responsibility for all of that lies at the feet of the social media companies who kind of incubated and nurtured a lot of the conspiracy culture. We've talked about this before in terms of what are these platforms actually responsible for. And what is their duty. And what i'm interested in your opinion on is is where is the line or is there. A line between some of the disinformation that we saw from from politicians. As you pointed up going going all the way up to the president and the pretty obviously baseless cunanan conspiracy theory stuff because to me on the outside. It looks like that line is at best like really blurry it is and part of the problem is whether we think of social media as a utility whether we think of it as a publisher or whether we think of it as as a as a company that has its own stake in the election because part of the pressure facing these companies is bias if not the perception of bias. And where you know you and i as people who have journalistic tendencies or straight out journalistic commitments. You know we look at something like human on and it is a fairly straightforward case in terms of you. Know being a false and disinformation but conservatives especially conservatives in the united states have a different perspective that when these platforms start to label on posts or even removed hyun on from their platforms. Then it becomes a kind of conspiracy against conservatives or you know a political bias to these platforms that sorta skews their perception or skews their their trustworthiness and. I think that that's where that line is not only blurry. It's entirely subjective. That different people see that line. Being a appropriately or enforced in different places and in particular was twitter's handling of article in the new york. Post that you know. This was an article that claimed it had had had hacked information about hunter and joe biden's son and twitter banned the article from the platform at least tried to do so by preventing people from sharing it and while twitter's logic was that it contained personal information because it was from a hacker. Count that. That's why shouldn't be shared american conservatives perceived it as being an act of censorship but they thought that they were that twitter was supporting the biden campaign that they were against the republicans and so its that perception of bias. That really muddies where that line is and further. It's just a legal line in many cases. It's a moral line of sort of what is responsible in terms of these companies. Doing the right thing and so all of that combines to it being not just muddy but fraught with peril and that you're gonna upset somebody so it's almost as if you have to choose who you're going to be upset in trying to then look as if you're taking the more responsible or ethical line in managing this when we talk about responsible and ethical lines Is it that or is it a business decision. What happens if twitter stands by its decision to ban that article and perhaps then bands the next one because there were a whole bunch of hundred biden. conspiracies flying around out there. How long does it survive amongst conservatives. A little bit of both. I mean to your point fundamentally this is about business and this is about twitter not just being responsible to its shareholders but being in a highly competitive industry. I mean if you think of twitter in juxtaposition with facebook with google with some of the other sort of players especially tiktok as a chinese owned company. Twitter's kind of small player. They're the pip. Squeak in all of this and experienced the the slowest growth. They're effectively stagnating when it comes to both user growth and revenue especially compared to their peers so ironically the ethics and trust issues are about the bottom. Line that you know in the media. Industry trust is is so crucial when it comes both to dealing with advertisers because that is where all this pressure is coming from is advertisers. Don't want to be associated with extremist content. Data want to be associated with conspiracy and disinformation and fundamentally. That's why twitter and facebook and youtube have been so aggressive in trying to come back cunanan on not so much because of politics or because of freedom of speech but because advertisers don't want to be associated with that content but at the same time you know to your point about conservatives twitter wants as many users as possible so they don't want to alienate a third or asked of the political spectrum in terms of the united states electorate but they also feel a responsibility to their shareholders to their advertisers to offer a space that is somewhat conducive to advertising so overall it's been a clown show in terms of both twitter's attempts to appear responsible but then in end really just being beholden to advertisers. So it's a bit of a paradox. especially when you consider that twitter is the defacto townsquare that it is where political debate happens at least in the electoral public sense. So i feel it's scandalous that the platform you know not only has an arbitrary enforcement two different kinds of political speech but does it have a democratic governance model for example doesn't allow users to themselves participate in moderation or an oversight of moderation but instead still sort of relies upon automation and algorithms. Which as we know is grossly ineffective and ends up just making huge mistakes like the new york post incident in which it was algorithms that were sort of creating blanket bans on us conservatives that ends up leading twitter looking as if they're not only irresponsible but biased against their users. I want to ask you to combine a couple of the things That you've mentioned i is. We've talked about the blurred line between real conspiracy theories and political information and the second is the role that twitter and others play in determining what's fair and what's not and where would you say ends up if you know in the week after the election we've seen some of the theories spouted by by prominent republicans. Move more and more towards the kind of things we would describe as a typical conspiracy theory lake at some point. They have to shut down those accounts. I kind of feel you're hitting the nail on the head and it evokes both a slippery slope both when it comes to twitter's credibility but also when it comes to politics democracy as we know it in that on the one hand. There's kind of you know political spin where you're trying to emphasize your position or get the best argument and the other is outright lying and propaganda. What i think is dangerous about social media and dangerous about twitter. In particular is the power of the law and the extent to which that lie can be amplified a social scale at a at a society scale that incentivizes lying that encourages people to not just lie in a kind of propaganda political spin way but lie in a completely ludicrous. Demonize your enemy way which is part of what we're seeing in. Us politics and you know as we speak. There are still very senior republican officials who are trying to argue. That biden stole the election. That even though there's no evidence of electoral fraud that electoral fraud happened at such a a wide scale as to call into question the results of the election. That this is. This is a whole new game of politics both in terms of trying to de legitimize the biden administration before it's even sworn into office but in particular the weaponization of social media and the way in which social media incentivizes extremism nurtures polarization and rewards lives. And this is something we've talked about for a long time. It's partly how you know. The current president came to office. Was you know lies were were were were part of his tool chest and yet we sort of talked about the extent to which social media platforms not just complicit but beneficiaries of of that culture of lying and. I think that that is moving forward. Something that will get greater scrutiny. Both in terms of how these platforms enable the liars enable politicians to just say stuff. The rest of us go. Oh my god. That's ludicrous but that brings us back to the irony of subjectivity. That what is ludicrous to you. And i is truth to other people and how social media companies A wade in or become the arbiters of that truth is not something that they are really hesitant to do. But whether they have the authority to do it. I think is an entirely different issue. And that's where conservatives in you know really doubling down and in sort of presenting not just a world view but a methodology of lying at such. A huge scale is something that i think. We're going to have to deal with in the weeks and wants to well. This is what. I'm building up to. How do we deal with. It does twitter at some point as this continues given the precedent. They've set with cunanan. Do they have to suspend donald trump's account if it's like december twentieth and he's still claiming that he's won the election and this whole thing is fake. I mean the short answer is yes. I think that there is certainly amongst those people who believe in the rule of law That there is a certain You know there can't be a hypocrisy. There can't be double standards right. They can't be banning and silencing people who say things far less than than what donald trump says but to your point about december twenty. I think more you know in january when he's sworn in that when he's no longer in office you know that's when the the consequences of his flagrant lies of his of his ludicrous speech patterns. Make a catch up with him but is it just donald trump or is it. You know as you mentioned the other. Republican officials is that the other people like you know just as twitter engage in wholesale purge of all the people who practiced this kind of creative speech. I'm not so sure. I i think this is where the law has to come in. And you know the social media companies have benefited from a provision in the communications decency. Act in the united states in the late nineties. That sort of meant that. They weren't responsible for the speech that was on their site. I think that needs to change. And i do expect that the biden administration will at the very least propose such a change and that will make it easier for these platforms. That they don't have to guess but that line in the sand becomes a little more clearly define from a legal perspective at least a liability perspective in terms of who's fundamentally responsible for some of the content or some of the quote unquote speech that's placed on these platforms. But but as you sort of inferred. I think it's going to get a whole lot worse before. Any resolution or at least any motivation towards a resolution emerges. And whether it's the conflict over this election or whether it's the conflict that emerges after this election i think it's going to exacerbate both the polarization society but also the the surrealness or the ludicrous of speech on social media as becoming even more inflamed and even more competitive than it already is. Here's my business side of the same question. How valuable to twitter is having donald trump's account on the platform. Well i think that is the paradox. That it's incredibly valuable. I mean twitter. Twitter business side certainly was suffering before donald trump won the presidency and in using twitter as the bully pulpit and using it as the megaphone of the presidency. I mean you could not have received a better gift and and it very much revived. Twitter's fortunes kept them relevant at a period in which they were not. I mean i still believe. Tiktok is the current juggernaut and tiktok is really whether politically economically or culturally. Tiktok is still where the action is. So i think there's a lot of pressure on twitter to adapts to find some new way to keep the wind in their sails. I've been seeing a lot of talk online about twitter. Buying sub stack which is the email newsletter platform that especially during the pandemic has been experiencing tremendous growth and that is often the business strategy for the social media platforms that when you stagnate well by a competitor and their trajectory their growth ends up benefiting your own but i think from a reputation perspective. You know twitter. Not only benefited. From trump benefited from being the battleground between conservatives and liberals between the left in the rain and it'll be interesting as to whether twitter maintains that not just whether biden chooses not to use twitter as a bully pulpit but whether politics just gets tired of the outrage culture of the belligerent culture that i think has also marks twitter in the trump era. I mean these are existential questions. The company faces. And it's part of why. I think they're receiving the kind of scrutiny. They have but i think they also anticipated themselves. And it's why they've been investing in some really interesting are indeed and really interesting investment in different technologies because i think they also see the writing on the wall that if they don't find a way to pivot or reinvent themselves. The post trump era may not be too may not be too beneficial for twitter as a whole. Here's the last thing. I want to ask you and I'm excited to do it. Because you a futurist and think of the conversation that we just had About how a presidential election was basically conducted and fought on the battleground of twitter. And and take yourself back ten years and try to imagine having that discussion. And could you have foreseen. This could anybody of foreseen this and if not what was the turning point the gave these platforms so much power in the public speech. The easy answer would be that. My homeboy marshall mcluhan anticipated. All this stuff way back in the sixties and for those of us follow his breadcrumbs. It was to a certain extent possible ten years ago to get a sense of the political influence that twitter would have. I would admit that. I would never have anticipated a president using twitter in the way that trump has that eclipsed everything but to your point of a turning point. I think it was the traditional media. I think it was when the broadcast media basically abdicated. The kind of ownership of breaking news that when all of a sudden you know. Cnn started to report on what was happening on twitter right as soon as cptv and cbc started you know leading their newscasts with things that were happening on twitter. You know that's when when when twitter became the media of record right when twitter replaced the new york times as the agenda setting media. I think that's when everyone realized not just the the attention power but the political power that existed with twitter a more so than say facebook or instagram or youtube. But you know there's there's no permanent to this stuff and the win which twitter. I think peaked perhaps months before trump got elected. You know that's where i think. Youtube and in particular tiktok are ascendant. Right now so it's easy for me to look for years into the future or if you want even ten years into the future and say where twitter was really motivated by taxed and the simplicity of what was originally a one hundred forty characters and of course has since doubled. but it's still based on the zinger or the spin pithy. Little one liner. The future is a little more long form but it's video and that's why youtube and tiktok continued to be the juggernauts. Not they are. And that's where i think. Political power is in the future because the same way that you could say that. The president that the united states had for the last four years was really a reality television star that it was his prowess in reality television. It was his ability to command twitter as an attention getting tool that really cemented his political power. Well i think the politicians of the future are youtubers today that the politicians in the future are tiktok talkers today. Not just because the reality television star. They're great accounting attention but even more so they're great at making the media themselves right where trump was a character on tv but not necessarily someone who could make tv. The politicians of the future are also programmers as well as tv stars. And that's where youtubers and tiktokers have a different kind of communication and political mobilizing. That quite frankly. I'm in all of and makes it very easy to predict that they're going to be the politicians of the future. You know ten years is perhaps even too long. It could come within four to six. Will that terrifies me because We had a conversation right after the election with jane Davidenko of buzzfeed news. Who debunks all the disinformation. That spreads on social media. And she was talking about the su- nami of disinformation after the election. And what she said actually is that as it moves from taxed to video it becomes exponentially harder to debunk. Because you can't find it performed the same kind of searches to systematically kind of rooted out and see where it spread. You can't Search for content. And make sure that you know that that bogus claim that was over here is now showing up here at cetera et cetera. Said like the shift to video has made fact checkers jobs Almost impossible so to hear you say that about where we're going It's not great. You know the one hand. I would concur with jade in the sense that deepfakes have since become so accessible so easy to do that the shenanigans you can get into video now at let alone in the future are just gonna come wild but i would also anticipate that the auditing and the indexing and the inventory of video content that will be possible as a result of machine learning technology. It may not achieve. The kind of researcher auditing potential that currently exists with taxed. But it will allow our friends like jane craig some ability to sort of track some of that fake news staff. So it's not that all hope is lost but it is also easy to predict that conspiracy has become our new religion and that these types of faith. Or even the jihad's between different conspiracy face will also become a staple of politics in the future quite tragically. The title of this episode is now going to be how conspiracy became our new religion. He realized that quite fitting thanks. So much jesse. 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French Open Day 3 - Osaka escapes. Watch out; Zverev struggles but survives. Murray/Soares split

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French Open Day 3 - Osaka escapes. Watch out; Zverev struggles but survives. Murray/Soares split

"Hi, I'm John McEnroe's board. This is Martina Navratilova. I'm Mats Wilander Dunbar, Inca, I'm Lleyton Hewitt. I'm Andy Murray, and you're listening to the tennis podcast. Welcome along to three of the friendship. Been third day in row were Matt Roberts and myself risk. Find ourselves in the media restaurant is sort of become our spiritual home from home. It's Paris's Putney exchange, and it's new and improved this time, because we have cheese and we have meat cheese, meat and Coney shown, and industrial quantity of butter, which is how they serve the cheese meeting corner shown here in Paris. I'm not complaining. It's absolutely fine. I wouldn't mind a sort of utensil with which to distribute the buzzer, but apart from that. All good. I love vinegary corn shown. It's like Andy Murray, dinas knew how do your strawberries. Everyone says with creamery says with my fingers apparently supposed to be spreading the BUSTER, with offing. The way she say that. Yeah. There's a great, I think it's a Wimbledon and one of these promo things, and they ask all these players. How'd you let your stories and they say with cream and then marriage just goes with my fingers? Well, that I mean we very much in the spirit of that way we meet cheese, butter and pickled vegetables with our fingers, and it's great it is. And we have an interesting day of tennis to dissect to my, it's not quite over because count won't vis took to the Philip Chettri about four minutes ago. I mean what time is it now? Eight pm eight fifteen pm in the ado wonder if he was given the option. He and his opponent would given the option to, to switch to moment, which finished hours ago and Gail said thanks. Well, yeah. The Konta person who would prefer the spotlight and the stage of being on last on trae to thinking ahead and actually thinking what would be sensible for his tool and wanting to pay on get as much down on another cord? He's in hurry. This five love food fifteen maybe it was the right decision after that, it certainly is a twilight zone match tonight. And not is because. Play his gone, so slowly on Philippe Chacha today, not least, because Alexander's Vero took about seven hours longer than he ought to have done to, battle pas John millman in five sets in the first much of the day out there. But also because wall Samana Hallo defending champion got involved in three sets of I think we want to talk first of all my about the world. Number-one Naomi soccer he came out onto Philip chat show, her first ever match might call her first-ever time playing a grand slam as a world, number one. And she loses the first set six love to all bit at tough first round opponent particular play Anna, cowardliness meat. And it wasn't a six love set that was less one-sided than it sounds. It was a six love set. That was an absolute demolition job. She could bury. Find the string. She looked flat. She listless. She looked so far away from winning tennis match. It's untrue. And yet she fought back. She twice had to break back to prevent schmead deserving out the match. She took it to a second break the second set tiebreak, and she eventually won through in a fairly one sided the that, but it wasn't a match, which at the feel of on this soccer will will definitely make it three one way or another it absolutely felt like she was going out for a big portion that much she was on the brink multiple times. And I've just been in her press conference and the first line of press conference, which always -cation your was learned so much about soccer and thought processes and what she's feeling and the first line was that was the most nervous I've ever been in my life. Just she just came out straight away with that candor. And which is extraordinarily considering this is a woman who has played grand slam finals. And yet it was the Frank show around one which was most nervous experience. And she was asked why. She's, she's never done a university, French oral has she met that is a very good point. Yes, I was just having the thought process. Ever been in my life anyway. I digress. And he's giving me chills just thinking about carrying tents, and she said, it's I could give logical reasons. The fact that it was all the reasons you've just listed her first national chat trae, number one slam for the first time, she's won the last two, and she really really, really does want to win this one, and yet, she said, I'm not allergic person, I can't explain it in those terms I just was. But the thing that struck me most about washing soccer today was how badly she played in that first set. And yet, I still think we saw the reason why she is so special and so good because lowest ebb she found strength, and she was four five down in the second-set schmead level was about to serve for the match. She was head in town at the kings vans, and she didn't and ironic. Thumbs up to her books Andy Murray s Murray style sarcastic books. Yeah. Demonstration look at what I'm doing here. Isn't this isn't this terrible was was how she explained that? And yet, at that moment, she came out and played her best game of the whole match to break back. She then handed it straight back with more errors. And then she did the same thing again broke back playing really. Well, I, I find it incredible the way she's able to find that strength. And we saw it in the Australian Open final when she played Petric bitter when she will sobbing into a she went off the call. Didn't she when she lost that second set in the final, and she came out and put an amazing third-set? It's an incredible quality that she has. And it wasn't a really was tennis wise a pool performance poor performance. I mean she found what she needed to the back end of the second and an. The third and she'd broke in the spirit, I think, schmead liver by that point, but tennis wise, pretty poor performance. I was really thinking she's still not nailed the sliding. She was doing a little bit of it. She thought she was better at it backwards and forwards than than the lateral sliding movement. But I mean it's clear, she's, she's not spent a lot of time on this earth. And I came away from that much thinking, well, Naomi soccer movement in the French Open. I really now feel like she plausibly could win the French Open. I completely agree. She she does have a tough draw as Rinker next possibly Sakari before we've been talking about a second week, Sakari think one through in absolutely. Blistering serious demolition job. She's now a plate, she's in the category of player that does demolition jobs rounds if slams as rancor I mean, I think we would just about expecting to get the better of panko today, but Matt hit me with the stat. This is this is. I mean it deserves drum rule. But I haven't got the means means to produce that, but yes, Ostapenko ze Frank show record by match wins per year. Twenty fifteen zero twenty sixteen zero twenty seventeen seven twenty eighteen zero twenty nineteen zero talk about efficiency, and sort of go bigger. Go home efficiency is the best possible depend on that patent. But. If you if you Elena spent four years again, Elena, you can have all alone. Elena alona. You can have seven wins at the French Open for the next five years. How would you like them to be distributed? Absolutely perfectly in keeping with her as this incredibly, streaky player, who would either be. Awful really awful all incredible and take their academic hand and records demonstrates it beautifully. And I think someone replied on Twitter saying that she's never won a doubles match chair or junior, Matt share. So literally, the only seven matches that she's one took it to the title. Wouldn't it be fantastic? If she in a weird way never wins another job. Not quite up six nine. Adele has lost a couple of months, you say but it's sorta the opposite records in adult. Yes. Yeah. And David I saw put on Twitter that it similar to the question here, Tim Henman about whether he would rather be really consistent or have sort of one slam Chile would you what you'll career for marriages? And I think this question is Austin in twenty fifteen of the year off the ranch won his US open. Title, and he said, in a heartbeat. Yes. Should have gone on to reach more than finals has now. But. Just shows that being to pay just for one week is put to it. It elevate. She doesn't it. Gravestone will say French Open champion. Absolutely. And on that. Bleak bombshell. We move on. So as a ranking now plays. That's right. Yeah. And as a soccer didn't know that she was, she's she was that was sprung on her press. And she said, okay, she hadn't looked to the draw. And what was the reaction? She said she thinks it's going to be one of the toughest she's had this year because she recognizes that Seraing because playing really well and a very different match to one shit today and has had recently. Had to do her on-court post much interview wearing a very elaborate poncho heavens at open pretty much the moment she finished her match. She had you have to stay on court to do this quick interview in the corner. And she saw on the screen that she was marching in what looks like a sort of Handmaid's tale type item. Is this an opportunity for us to cover outfits map because since possibly third gate? We haven't we have an update dated people on the other one strategies been circulating the courts, Roland Garros this year, Carl admant. I don't mind. I don't mind it as a thing, but on car. I just don't think it's very Kyle admant. I mean it's a suit of floral top. I think I don't think our Edmund things. It's very hard to either though does he because he was asked about it, and he said, what ended up talking about the French? Revolution in press, which I think, is an avenue intended to go down. But that was where we found ourselves, the French revolution, which my French of seventeen Eighty-nine my French teacher said, if you want to get into any apartment block in Paris, and it's got a coast just type in some combination of seventeen Eighty-nine near will get in. So I've always always kept that in mind, whenever I'm in Paris. Kept that in mind for the purposes of breaking and entering whenever the need might rise. Yeah. My, my feelings on coil admits outfit. And if you haven't seen it just just find us over computer and have a look at it all Bush, the book of ridge, it is a floral, top, and a sort of polkadot parachutes other apparently, that bees or flies or wasps or something rather than polka dots. And apparently, they're not flowers this skeleton linked to the French revolution. I think that the top would look great on a lot of people not. I think the shorts with great on a lot of people. Not Kyle admit, I think the combination of the two would get on everybody. Yeah. Agreed. But I do think it's quite nice to have an outfit, that does kind of get you interested in talk. Would you see a lot of very bland outfits? And I'm in favor of a little bit of experimentation and something a bit different. Can I just say one thing on the south? Yes. Please. Please do. So another one of the potentially logical reasons why she might have been. She said. And I do think this was a factor that she said, almost wanting to prove people wrong. I think she has noticed that some people have been saying that she's had a bad year, since you're strain open, and she doesn't think she has. And I think performing on clay is a big motivation for to show. Look, I'm backing up their strain open. No matter what anyone else, says, I am and she in the best way to be able to demonstrate that would be having a run here, just sort of further convincing me might win the friendship in because I think. Defines is so often, a trait in tournament winners and chip on the shoulder of some sort is a is a very potent motivator. And I think coming through much like this for hers really significant because we saw that in Melbourne when she shakes away in a match where she was in all sorts of other she somehow managed to figure out and then produce brilliant, tennis for the rest of the tournament, and I asked to impress about that match. And I said, does a performance like this while you're not playing well. Almost met you feel a bit. Invincible. This just having a chance. It was me now in a lot of people. And because the traveling Japanese press pack is huge unreal with for soccer Nishikori, especially and taro Daniel who's not doing so well at the moment against Gilmore fees enjoying the prison sunset. Yeah. But I just thought says she said, no, it doesn't make me invincible. But it does give me a lot of hope for when I am playing better because she knows that she can women this. And what is she going to be able to do when she's playing well? Doc is gonna win the. None of us have predicted today that I changed my mind, the persuasion of Simon. Briggs last minute went for push. You went for Halla. She couldn't in three sets today, Matt. Yeah. Didn't see a huge amounts of it because other things going on. But yeah, right for my prediction, when she did when she was pushed into set then she got a crucial break at the start of the third. I think that was very, very important. And the bits I did see I thought she was playing playing okay. But I think Tomjanovich really, really to play well, interesting comparisons. I mean say, lots of non comparisons. But in terms of what Naomi soccer saying they're impress about the desire to pre people wrong and her feeling that she has had a good year in spite of people's perceptions of such very valley's, undeserved said, very similar things impress today, he says, I'm kind of getting bored of this narrative about the body era. I'm having a needed a bit vendetta dome of the rate. He said where am I in the race? And, and the resulted in the room where people pondered whether or not that was a rhetorical question. And he went well, I'm in the top ten in the race which I kind of felt like but year yet, but you'll the guy that's always telling us that your future world. One eight. I know because you've told us that being top ten in the race isn't good enough by your standard. So don't try and fool me with being top ten in the race. And if the ended now he wouldn't HP finals defending his title. He has been telling us that was a good year. He has had a year below expectations. And I do also wonder how many of those two fifty points, he just wanting Geneva have catapulted the race a little bit. I reckon, he will. Yet he wasn't. We could go any was sixteen seventeen or whatever. Himself in a really tight spot against John millman today, ended up in five sets well over four hours. He won through. He really battled really for this is a guy that has looked, flat and lacking in fight at times. This is there are, there are positive signs in that respect, but tennis wise, Matt. Was he doing is he doing? He has become this six foot six inch counterpuncher? He has weapons. Why isn't a using them his confidence? Is it just confidence because it seems so obvious? Yeah. I think it probably is confidence. I think even I saw a little bit of him in Geneva last week and he was doing it then as well. Even when he was winning that title. And it's just not going, he's going to scrape through matches like this, but he's not going to cause any damage Shifa keys because for one he'll himself out, which is what he did when he was playing really well, and primesee Buddha, gone further than that quarterfinal had he not exhausted himself. So this year, when he doesn't have the form and confidence coming in to I mean I was surprised at how Chipper he was of the veggie. He said yes to come into the US boost which I wasn't teams as pretty chip. When you go there, I'm sure the, the relationship he has with, with Boris Becker, which, I believe, really close one, actually, I think they're sort of always on the phone to another. I'm sure that was a fighter I was expecting him to be for guy that thinks he should be winning these grand slam titles getting taken to five sets and four plus hours. Probably unnecessary five sets ready with respect respected to John millman in the first round should be pretty annoyed about it. I mean I can imagine even Lendl saying. No, that's not you know, that's not the plan here. The plan is grandson, champions, generally tend to get the job done early and conserve themselves, in, in the early rounds but Lendl ain't head. No. He is allergic to clay. He's developed. Allergy to the first week of the French Open, that is, that's what we're being told. Yeah. Apparently he might be I think he'll definitely be back for Wimbledon. And if he goes deep, then he might come back for the period and, and brave the pollen what, what worries me about serve about this sort of ball machine mode, that he seems to go into is that he's doing it in really tight moments. And I think tight moments are where you display your true colors. If you like because that's when your natural instincts, kick in anything, right? I need to take this match now. And he's not he's just grinding away pushing the ball back not taking the initiative, and for guy who has so much to offer much power. It doesn't doesn't make a whole sense. But he to me out there like a guy with all the tools, but the needed a really good coach. Yeah. As far as we're being told he's coached by even Lendl aren't believe even told him to go out there and play like that. So I I don't I don't understand the current landscape if Sasha's verve no, I'm we should we probably should say that we always do give Lendl of credit for his coaching skills. It is it is possible that, you know, just because it worked with Andy Murray doesn't mean it, it's going to work with various. Yeah. And of course, as, as you've really could make the point made the point before Andy Murray was an awful look closer. He just needed that last crucial. But that lost tiny push didn't he that final lost ingredients sprinkl, sold very of needs more than does. It's a fair is in a very different place in his career to where Andy Murray was when my report, then it's a bigger risk. It doesn't if. If Lendl doesn't give him what he needs. Where does he go then? Yeah. Well Boris now that you've mentioned that. But I think he's, I think he's already getting stuff from Boris. I say he's tapping the Boris. Yeah. Whatever whatever I. The rich seam of Boris. Move me on Matt meal, just one funnel comment about for oversea. We should say he won credit him full doing that because it looked like he was gonna lose. And even when he's playing badly, his background is still a mouthful. And I just think Jamila must be having a lot of regrets because those short ball. Approach shot and he could have gone to the four hundred and he went back cameras was deep in the fifth sets hit a perfect lob over moments head and didn't lose another point after that he then one Berkman so out to love. And I just think moment could have that shot back. He would go to verse four hundred because has four hand, I said, maybe it's stilling Geneva someone came back and said, I think it's twenty eighteen. Which I thought was fair point. Whatever you do. Sasha's very don't go on Twitter all day for tennis. Great content. Great content. Don't portray one three in four sets? The first nNcholas Jerry Noche aim in that Nicolas, Jerry. Very good clay-court player. Caroline Garcia, one three over on long known as Capri in straight-sets Madison keys wanted commercial medicine case. Thing we didn't talk Madison case enough. I was looking at her record. She she in the mix. I think she's in the mix. She is in that top section with a circus Akari as in Katrina loaded top section of women's draw, but she has reached the quarterfinals or better in four of her last six slams and semi finals halos. The she is very consistently slams, and she had a very comfortable win today. Think of consistent, I think of her is all or nothing. Yeah, but I think she's I think she's consistent at the slams and kind of all, or nothing the rest of the year. And she won Charleston didn't cheat and this year. So. Okay. So I'm we'll revise will keeping my eye on Madison keys Fabio Fanini one through keeping an eye on him. Be under Sepe, which is a we, we say that. That's the sort of grand slam. Right of passage. Yes. Yeah. 'cause folded that the near this up this year last year when he had his run. Sub Alenka one. She did she beat civil Kover. I'm I'm sad about the fact that lots of things Saab linka winning. And that section of the women's draw is incredibly open because comes of eight lost in that section and ver had to draw other tournaments breaks contact within the mix. He did. Next time. He's doing that. So one of these people reached the quarter-finals sampling. Makoba Anisimov, Verka stare stowe's Alexander begau impulse over so about your pronunciation MC over Matt. Mc mc? I I'm not correct. I don't know. I took a shot. Okay. Great. We'll stick with. It's all about confidence. With ferns Asians learned that from Greg. He all my gosh. I never apologized. I apologized on. But you did an Instagram stories. So so within twenty four hours, I've set myself up now. Greg, apparently, it is Ramos, louder. And I sent my professor apologies meeting on. Kazakina, one congressman's, we've only talked about his outfit. We haven't talked about the fact that he won. She do Brit corner Stewart. Okay. Call been one. He wanted positively aren't conditions as you so nicely. Put it was freezing yet. I mean it was it was like we've been transported to a different climate to, to what we were in last night's at nine thirty pm when that much was cooled off a bad Lloyd's, five all in the fifth. Yes, sir resumed today with this sort of sudden death type format. I was kind of thinking with us because you needed to have a fast start. But equally didn't want to have a faster and not leave anything in the tank, it was this really fascinating situation. And cardamon to is immense credit played it so. Well, he just didn't miss, and he won. Eight of the ten points and return shoddy serve really. Well and won the two games that took him into the next round. Found the confidence and calm that he had today. But I went out and wolf was hermit breakfast. I was gonna say eight cool spread I it was. I mean he's thoroughly convinced me that having fooling Lynch, plus a panel Shukla is, is, is the way to achieve great things in your day. That's more he was dining for breakfast today. And, and boy did that work out for him. But then I also went out to watch his practice on corner born this morning. That was I was up around about ten AM. And I just I watch him and I thought, oh, he's gonna win this. I thought I felt like he had a hundred percent confidence and always signed every autograph. It was this a usually my anxiety radar. Goes off against ROY sort of a sense of fellow anxiety ridden person. And I didn't today felt like he'd sort of created this bubble around him or something, like it hit new toys himself. I just suddenly suddenly felt like oh, it's fine. He's got this. That's frustrated because I agree. He does seem like an anxious person. And this was a situation where you'd think that anxiety will come out having to sleep on that on that match and. Yeah, he played so well in those opiate ten points but he handled the situation a lot better than Jeremy shoddy. He said he felt like it was really significant that he was serving I, he got to put the pressure right back on right back on. Jeremy surely be I was I was so impressive today. And I, I really hope you can carry that threes quite as next, which is tricky. I think really tricky. Yeah. He's, he's in section of the drawer with some very experienced coaches. Because even if he gets through that is probably team after that brutal section I and I hadn't even considered as section because. I thought he was I lose shoddy apologies, Dan. Evans lost in four perky, stiffen Davidenko, which is a really good showing. He is still in doubles alongside Cam. Nori. He did not put on a plucky showing I mean he lost in, in three sets to. Somebody who Frenchman could Ben TRE sheet venture venture. She is. Pronouncing that funnel tea which goes against what we learned. It goes against everything I prepared for, in my university, French oral shudder. Yeah, it was a set you. I think, and I, I don't to be. There's anyway, not to be her on camera. We for this is really rare. You see a top one hundred player play that badly ever, I think it was awful horror show. He he couldn't find the call. And he said that didn't he said, I just couldn't play today. And but what was a bit frustrating was that he didn't really want to engage in an analysis the match she he basically said, I wasn't playing well, but my opponent played really well, and it oppose opponent, Franks qualifier played well, but he didn't play six three six love six too well against camera Nari. Who is, you know, kind of established top sixty fifty player now and it was a really really bad performance, and I thought given the he could have been facing cares in the first round. It was up for -tunities, but we kind of thought. He probably padded the question away impressed by whether he would rather play the curious, but any work any worse. And I think it would have suited his personality of it more than being the favorites in, in that match. Yeah. I mean when I was about it on this is before he, he knew he was replacing an curious in the jewel, but I often Bundy said it. Yeah, that's a shame. I would have liked to play curious. I was looking forward to, to getting on a decent court say, but I mean it had a couple of days to get over it. And by that point, I just, I don't know whether the best thing with, with a performance that horrifying is to just treat it as a an incident vacuum. A move on straight away or that says she really unhealthy need to deeply analyze it to, to ensure that it never happens again. I, I don't know. I know his parents were watching today, and they, they live in New Zealand. They bet ever get the chance to watch in play and not just. Inside breaks my heart little bit any other we need to we need to wrap this up 'cause I've spent forty? Going down avenues that I should never have embarked upon any other notable results. The one of the world's oldest tennis matches happened today between the seventh oldest the seventh oldest in grand slam. Open era history, seventy seven years, three hundred sixty three days and one by the elder of the two year old Yvo convicts, beating thirty seven year old Feliciana Lopez in a match took a while it was kind of cruel that they were playing for so long. But I mean if kind of sticks around, which we think he will with that serve. He could if he plays federal in two or three years time federal still giving. They could get that record. Just be the seven. Some in college could ain't react trick tennis records fooling. All the serving records every time he plays. I'm reporting some kind of geriatric tennis record being broken just very quickly. We should probably took on Jamie Murray, Bruno Suarez lost in the first round today. That will be the end of their punishment. That's the last match ever played. They lost thirteen in the unseeded Italian pairing Suarez is now good team with Mattie Pavitt and Jamie Murray is going to team up with Neil scope. Ski, he's confirmed that the relationship they've agreed for, for the remainder of the year. I don't know what's gonna happen to Kinski it feels a bit. Mila bandy, doesn't it? That chain of events, but it seems from the quotes that I've read that Jamie's decision they bring being the loved each today's very accepting of it. They've had some great successes together, mostly sort of front-end did in their relationship. Although if they've had plenty of OB slightly less significant grand slam since their first twelve months together, but it's been a very successful partnership. But yeah. Run at schools. Got them both. I slam. Yes. I think they were both. They both been immense. Men's doubles mixed both been knocking on the door with previous partners. And you might have thought that if they both wanted to win a slam they would have wanted to team up with someone who ready want them and stubble slam. But as it turned out, they folks really successful pairing, as you said, couple of slams number one in the world, but it did kind of feel like it was this was coming with the sort of sliding results that we've seen this year. Yeah, it did it make it. It's only about it makes me sad and having midseason get a percent off, you know, our in first round of the Frank show. And it's a shame that is that is happened like that. Yeah, yeah. But we wish them well with new partners. Interesting, they've both pedal with, with plays significantly younger than than Jamie is thirty three Bernice worries. I checked today's thirty seven yeah. So maybe it is time for them to sort of aggregate town. The yes. A bit t- t increase longevity is because if Eli either college can keep paying singles to these forty and they see compress on. Forgiveness Nase how long? Yeah. Well, I suppose the Bryans both so that they haven't opted for younger models in a cow alongside. But my interpretation is that Jamie's just desperate Wimbledon. Yeah. Desperate to win men's doubles at Wimbledon. He thinks it's more likely to happen, if you make a change than if he sticks, and he's winning he wants so much he's willing to gamble. I could be wrong. But why wouldn't why wouldn't it be desperate to mobile? That's mind tation order plate for tomorrow. Features eleven hundred champion ref on Long Island. We think that's okay. He's on long. Learn 'cause movers on. He's made way for the often coming 'cause mover indeed and. Yeah. Federal takes is spot on trade. Let's see if let's see federal gets along match later on in the tournament putting out them because I think they think is, it's probably last year could be his last year. And therefore, they don't want to risk him going out on long, then, like he did court won Wimbledon, like and his loss, loss hair was on Longland his funnels Reverend content was on London. I just don't think they'll risk that, but it will be interesting to dependent on champion. I'm all for equity in judging, but and I must say fairplay to the French Open this year because I've been doing some research, scheduling about discrepancy of matches men's and women's matches on the show courts. And every day, so far, it's been too into on chat. Trae long Cima mature and possibly even on court one as well. I agree. And I think that's really key point. Particularly goes tomorrow, because they surely must have been the only way they could have gotten a dull onto shed trade with probably been to sacrifice the women's much four it because in all honesty in Levitan champion adult is probably more shut trae worthy than Stevens. Yes, finally lost Jae, she takes on source Ribas to all sore amount. But they've decided it's more important to have these to have the equity. In judging. And I think that's fantastic. 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Fed Cup Final Preview: Australia vs. France  Who has the edge?

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Fed Cup Final Preview: Australia vs. France Who has the edge?

"Hi I'm John McEnroe's board. This is Martina Navratilova. I'm mats wilander. This America Willow. I'm Sandra I'm like you. I'm Andy Murray. And you're listening to the tennis. podcast only find myself and Matt Roberts in the Media Lounge of the two arena on the eve no on the east not at the. ATP Finals David Laura's elsewhere worry that you will get your David Lowe fix for Lou fans out there He'll be featuring On this Fed Cup finals by being parable preview with Lucy we talking about media day here at the matinee. I've just been to that Tales speaking to top eight tennis players has been following events in Perth very closely. Indeed because we are on the eve at the Fed Cup by parallel lost. I'M GONNA SAY INFO 'CAUSE IT'S A. It's a mouthful the for being powered by finals in Perth. Where Yeah I've seen some pitches in the stadium the the setting it looks utterly breathtaking? Some of the quotes that have come out of the. The pre final press conferences. Insist been really interesting. We've had the drill as well. Matt say tell us things Malone for three. AM tonight which wake shine anxious about. But I think I think I'll be alright because it should be a tie to wake up to that our wake up from many things at our but I think Fed Cup final. I can I can manage. I'm I'm fine with time. Differences generally but having tennis taking place on two completely wheatley. Different Times aims is is problematic. Yes this is true. It's going to be worse for the secondary effect final which leads into the opening day here at the two. But yes the drawers happened. And it sees the first match idea Tomjanovich against and Kristina Mladenovic and then Ashburn thirty against Caroline Garcia. So those are the two matches on the opening day Interestingly Tomjanovich which leads the head to head to love against Christina Medina Vicente recently these team meetings that is the caveat they haven't played since in two thousand fourteen. I think. Oh Wow which is interesting. Because they've kind of grown up on the torch together that only one week apart in age and they kind of know each other think dads she supply Hammond Ball against each other Christina. Since that fact to me lunch and it's not even the most niche bitterness matters. Come out with right of which more later fakes concerned might be in the presence of some sort of soy milk get knowledge good knowledge and Ash Party not leads the head to head to one against Garcia with one of those meetings very recently just a month or so ago in Wuhan which is three setup. Artsy Ronald Woo Hambledon. When I'm not so that's all I keep saying it anyway so on on paper rarely has the agency a A? They have the home support as you said in imperfectly arena. Which is hosted? The Hoffman for a few years and it looks stunning. It does doesn't it. Some of the photos take your breath away what thirteen thousand five hundred seater arena. It's packed out the Perth. Arenas you say whether hold the The Hoffman Cup. I I see him. It's a sell out. I think it's yes certainly very close to sell out the French team. Keep saying I'm not sure. How many French come given that? It's twenty four hour trip so is a big deal in these in these ties. That is what they're known for having having sections of away support which often get seats not quite near the corner quite loud. That if they don't have that be interesting to see how that dynamic does play out in the match but I think there's something quite poignant. I think about party Australia at the end of the year. She she said that she's so cute. The fact cop start of the year it was prioritized. And now sh- now here she is as the world number-one leading Australia really so trump win the FA cup for the first time in forty five years. I haven't won this tournament for forty five years. Haven't reached the final for twenty six. He is a really big deal. Nineteen seventy four. Even Goolagong was part of the team. A nice and Balti- I suppose with the with her indigenous heritage life kind of follows follows in her footsteps in that respect. Eight finals in a row. Yeah going back to seventy four. That is that I mean. That's not what's another you all. It's about time to win. One you will Jose could say Two thousand three is the last time that Franz one is is. We'll talk about French team but perhaps we should deal with the Australian team. I not least because his this quite a lot of talking obviously is one of them all at home Ianovich very much another mccown to that. But first of all as I said David Lowe Funds Funds. You should not be disappointed because Davis misspeaking to the Australian Fed Cup coach Nicole Pratt. I'm just a few hours ago. In fact he had the chat Up Noise and only for it. Thank you David. Let's hear what Nicole has to save from inside the Australia camp Yeah we've had a fantastic Preparation this way A little bit different in the sense of ash of winning the championships in Shenzhen and some making semi final said they got in a little bit later but the fact that that had so much tennis. I think we'll see bode well for the weekend. How they sort of bearing up at the moment? Um and 'cause I mean it's not a huge time changes it but obviously it's more travel. It's a long year. Particularly ash is an incredibly busy the year incredibly successful one. But how are they looking to you. Listen this surprisingly Fresh in the sense of we type it off. I guess it's the first couple of days they arrived went went light and then you know especially as she stepped over the last couple of days Just Fine Cheney a few different things and and I guess also. We're back in Australia. What an amazing achievement? And so I think she's just really looking forward to you know in a way this being the last way. But what do I finish the as you say in Australia. What an occasion and I was looking at some of the records? I think it's twenty twenty six years since Australia being in the final. It's forty five years since they won the title. It's a big deal isn't it yet is. We've we've had such a strong tradition in in Fed Cup as obviously in the men's With Davis Cup. Bought the fact that you know I feel really proud and privileged to be a part potted this team and Alicia Molik captaining the team and has done sir over. The loss would have seven or eight years and and it really is a special time. And and the fact that you there's so many other clients before us Inspired US and then what we're trying to do is is make sure that we continue. The tradition without without young applies in ashes. Started off as one of those youngsters in the team and a nasty. Become sort of one of the senior most experienced plas- as well as SAM 's Tulsa But yeah it's a great tradition and we're certainly in the stryer proud of what we've done in this year and if we could get the win and Bright a forty five year drought. Then that would obviously the Aussie on the lake for right year in Australian cents a number one player there Who has had the most stunning gear? Obviously I think most of US looked at her coming in as the world number fifteen. We thought maybe I think thinks she was talking about wanting to be firmly entrenched in the top ten by the end of the year and yet he issues world number-one Grand Slam champion. WNBA finals winner. How much of a surprise is this to you? Well once I thought it was coming but at the same time like it's not a surprise in the sense that everything ashes done throughout her career. It's almost like she's half the time that it takes for most people to get where I want to get to czar It's almost like she's on Spadaro In terms of the next progression in Korea so in the genius she wants to fifteen Cracked the top hundred Soon often so everything's just happened so quick for ash and you know when she she sets a mind to something the results to same to come so We've all known she's had a tremendous amount of potential talents and Dan the fact that she's put it all together this year and probably you know she said at a self. She's entertained that she's excited their expectations. So yeah great year and I guess the next step will be trying to consolidate in two thousand twenty. I was commentating last week on on ash when she one the WPA finals. And I was just speculating in commentary that probably of all the grand slams that she might have one. I think most people thought that the clay and the French Open would be the least likely Kiosk von. He was sitting next to me said well. Everybody thinks that except Nicole Pratt. Oh she said she said that you. You predicted this. Yeah I guess I did because I was fortunate enough to travel with us At a as a fifteen year old and we went overseas to Europe and she wants Charleroi the The grade one in inefficient outing in the game is she's got so much variety and the fact that on the clay she's got a little bit more time And what she's done. I've lost period of Thomas. To See improved proved a physicality immensely. Now I always thought number was had a running joke with Ashton. I believe that if she does win a grand slam the first one will be the French Open and she just kept laughing. The off side is a little bit We had we had a chocolate and put it that way. I'm I'm sure he did. You've also got for the first time in this particular. Finally you've got Isla Tomjanovich part of the team how how is she bedded in because of a seats seats It's a big deal to come into your debut in a situation like this I guess. Yeah we're a little bit sort of apprehensive prohibitive. I guess you could say in terms of how she would fit into the TAME bought She has been absolutely incredible from from the first minute. She arrived She's embraced the chain concept She extremely Yeah just friendly bobbly outgoing going and she says food at the incredibly well into the team and and playing some great tennis Shia out. It's been a process for this to get an Australian in sort of possible. Navy made eligible to represent a stronger. It's been a five year process and she's being completely committed to that through outside In the the fact that she's walked into a final and taking everything in stride. I don't know if you so last night but she did a rookie speech At the Ot there and she absolutely nailed it intensive and it was so genuine to say how proud she must be representing the green and gold on the weekend. Oh that's really cool. That's great well. It'd be fascinating to see her play She has been picked alongside ash. And Sammy Sosa in the the initial lineup. There and it's kind of like Garcia Kikkoman Denisovich It's it's a strong team on both sides and you as a coach we we ever seen Alicia is the captain. And what does the coach do. How how deep do you go in terms of things that you bring to the table? Because I suppose there's all thing all manner of things you can do you you you've got a A week with plans Yeah that's true and probably. That's where as much as I can. I try to build those relationships throughout the year with a lot of the players on the team I guess the role that is predominantly Perform is I guess a little bit in my skill all set is the ability to prioritize. What's important very quickly and I use sort of a lot of Vision and evidence based Principles to come up with those things so with the relationship and then you've got sort of against the evidence to back it up you tend to get sort of buying from the Playa It's a team. Effort like the coaches down and went in there three or four of goat's revision on our opponents with Fontaine time to try and figure Brad. Okay well how we gonna any bathe them and how best throughout players matchup against them in certain situations whether it be serving returning patent supply. So yeah that's predominantly the role that I play and you know coaching is what I do on a diet devices. So the fact that I get the opportunity where it with the mighty group of people and and some small y especially in the weight like these is really really rewarding. So when you say evidence-based does that mean you've got statistics to hand as to which direction maybe these I call. Eight might serve in a particular situation in which area of the opponents game to target correct So we pretty much analyze every serve ever return You know where play is making their errors from Is Inside the court is behind. The baseline is often. I've moved up. The back in there is coming up beforehand. Sorry yeah we we really do Spend a lot of time arm with with the statistics and also the vision. Like when I'm coaching and I and I see Arizona just don't see an error. Ask Myself The question. Why did that era happen open? Was it because the player has a technical deficiency is it because the movement pattern isn't great or it's the fact that that sort of pressed for time after being in another corner star. I spend enough time doing it. They're they're really awesome. Strong patents that that come out to declare the women's guy and I just just fine into Cola. You've got some pretty extreme weather coming your way tomorrow. Have it's going to be quite warm. Yes going to be crazy. It's forty degrees awesome even today. It's in the thirties. But it's it's very hot If the roof stays open which we think it is going to stay open at it. It's is going to be A test tool defeatist athletes out. There I think the mentality is going to be really important tomorrow and I have to think with fifteen thousand screaming fans for us. I'd like to think that We've got somewhat of advantage on on a hot hot day. Well Komo my appetite for it really looking forward to the Thai wish you all the best and I hope you enjoy the experience and maybe get the right result from your perspective victor. Thanks very much David on a really looking forward to it and got. It's just fantastic for women's tennis really proud of the tape right. So what about these conditions additions. Tomorrow let's find out if Carolyn Garcia is worried about them. nope degree heat before. Yep Well Yeah. We played every year so I cannot say we are used to play at under forty degrees but I think we all did once in our lives so of course it talk tests but I think we all ready for it and if we cannot end elite in one weekend for Fed Cup final and to get our name on the trophy. I mean that's mean we are not Wall Street so I think we all already for the city answers Carolyn. Garcia is not worried about the hot conditions in Perth. Made a strong stuff. These tennis players. I'd be sweating just just at the mere thought if that kind of heat but that is one of the professional athlete reminded before we come onto to talk about the various discussion discussion. Points there that if you want to watch the Fed Cup by being parallel final you can use eight via the ATF website. They'll be livestream you matches on there so that we we need to go to watch the matches of course. They are three the night in the U. K.. Say you want to follow it via the tennis porkers can DC via our daily podcast. Because I mean it feels that might be doing daily podcasts until the end of time but it is in fact in just until the end of the Tennessee but similarities twenty and eighteen days. Something like that. It's a law. Isn't going to be day coming up where we will do to podcasts. Very soon very very seen it. WE'LL BE I. Yeah Yeah we'll yeah okay so talking points in terms of the Australian and team at this I mean we touched on Bharti. I love that quote about this being something that she had targeted right at the start of the before tees David's words Ashkenazi was Ashkenazi. Of course we sort of we. We Circle Miami is the moment that I became spotty But switch. She's really like Nicole Protestant she. She's she's smart and insightful and you can see why and how she gets as place to to respond to and Ashkenazi is going for a record so in terms of getting Australia to this final. She has earned all that points. This here she won both singles matches when they beat USA in round one and both singles matches when they beat Belarus in the the semi finals. And she also combined to win the doubles in both those so she's got a perfect six and our record in the Fed Cup this year. If if she were to repeat that that go nine no she would be the first player ever to go nine now in effect cup season since it switched to the current format which I think was somewhere in the mid ninety s so sure anything ash but Australia lost eight hundred points to not lose nine in a row and it would just be symbolic symptomatic of what Nicole Pratt was saying about how I loved term. She seems to be on speed. Dial like she seems to achieve things such a a fast rate and most people would build their career and recco over time. She's just kind of this year. The boost doesn't thongs. He's GonNa win everything prime minister this time changes often so I think our bodies obviously a huge huge talking point not only from her tennis but also just a cultural place in Australia. I think at the moment I was speaking to the Australian tennis rights. Matra map trailer. who was telling me that ought is such a big deal in Nevada when you can make a case that she saw biggest sports star in sports mad country to think that cool cool? He sent me a link to an article that she talked the Australian financial overview list for most Khatri powerful Australians and Australian at the year simply. I mean she has to be. He's he's they announced during the Australian. Open yes do pat. Rafter kept winning it. Sort of even after he'd retired finally now aspect and she's already won the Don Award which is which is the Don Bradman thing. It's not enough to him. I think it's a little bit like sports personality And this and this was really interesting because it talks about why ashkenazis culturally significant important and his quoting from head says is that she she brings a sentence of rat and collected joy to the nation because everyone can get behind because and they they saw specifically compared to Morrison Elsie. Tennis Blah's who they've had in particular curious and Tomic saying that they were kind of more. Ah for the behavior. That's why they were well known. Bharti you get a sense that you can both be a really good person and really good at something. There's something really powerful about that which people have got behind. And also she embodies all these ozzy values of understating everything and turning a hand. Talk Talk Sports and being good at all of them and she is proud of her aboriginal heritage. She was wearing airings of the Aboriginal flag back during her press conferences. And she says she plans to wear them on court this week this weekend given them by little boy at one of the training sessions ever doing with the kids so she really embraced his that side of stills well emotional back story so I think this as much as the tennis Israeli powerful Party I think her story in what she's come to represent rulers on display this weekend. She's representing Australia. Let's assume that spot it. It doesn't end up having to secure the point frustration. Let's assume let's imagine a world where aaliyah terminal which is a significant part in whatever happens opens over the course of this weekend. How will that be received? How how what are the potential consequences that given given the backdrop breath her being allowed to compete for Australia at this this time? I think that's exactly I think if she plays a big important part and and wins a tie and that determines the outcome of the overrule tie I think that will probably be some fallout from that given given the personalities in particular the fringe team. Yeah the notified speak out about the not even internally which more to come but yeah I mean just to just bring it to the forefront if you're not a fait with the situation with Tomjanovich this to be her first Fed Cup tie representing Australia. She played played previously for Croatia in Europe Africa zone stages in twenty ten and twenty eleven. She combat it began competing Australia Back in twenty fourteen on the tour but she couldn't have Australian next to her name on the WPA two Until January two thousand eighteen when she was given citizenship I think the issue might people would point to With regards to this is the consistency of the rules regarding nation representation because the myself Jesus example to point to address better than a who was rejected as a British Davis Cup a player because he had previously represented Slovenia Does this situation differ to bed. Nine any tangible ways that is that a is that a valid criticism of the situation. Well I think in some respect no because actually ebonite only ever played what you might call a friendly at a dead rubber whereas Tomjanovich Alexi played difference. No but that would probably be an argument against switching Tomjanovich. Show giving she's paid live rubbers in the past it's a combination of factors is the idea of Including the fact that at the time of the application have been eight years since he paid for Croatia some more time frame rather than the actual nature of the title. She played and she did it when she was a junior and also that her application was supported by Croatia whereas Slovenia Federation never gave us a four to keep him yes. We need him yet in last week's Columbine Street fighter in the Times a quote from ninety F- spokesperson On the situation saying a number of cases have been brought to appeal nationalizations since the Davis and Fed Cup up at. Njit rules are updated in Twenty Fifteen Both bedding and Tomjanovich is appeals. We considered based on the same twenty fifteen sets of criteria but they cases with. We're very different. which is which will will appointed and there there are differences and I think part of the reason that the Bene case got so much traction much publicity is that people thought it was the wrong decision? People thought he probably should have been able to play for Great Britain. So it is kind of a positive Tiv- step that there are opening it up but as you said it's the consistency of that ruling which is a little bit unclear. But I do think the moving towards the right place of if you're representing that country on the tour. Shouldn't you be able to play Davis Cup for that nation as well. It's just the timing of ebbing ebbing fine or is controversial. And the way it compares to that better case I think is making it a federal Saudi controversial topic ahead of this final. Yeah Yeah and as you say it feels like the recipe is there for some potential agro. Yes we should be great. We're we're all we're all here for that. Because Yeah Caroline Cassia Christina Madonna Vich. They mind having a few things to say. You didn't Benneteau. Incident used to coach at the Fed Cup team new this year. I mean it I had to look up. He was the The Fed Cup coach for France. I wasn't expecting to CG Benedetto's name but good luck to him to Benneteau who in his his taw. Playing days was not renowned for winning finals. Given given he never did did he never WANNA final I think he's he's in singles. He won he did win Davis Cup. Playing thank you yes. So he's he's experienced in that in these team compositions and his first thing that he did this year. Bring Caroline Garcia back. Basically I think part of that was Garcia wanting to come back and Benneteau saying She's a number one to me. That is that sort of thing getting getting the place. He went into the full getting in wanting to play in getting a unity. That's probably the biggest part of that job. Not The these players all have their own coaches which is about four hundred Beckham's tactics. I mean. Yeah they'll be. They'll be a bit of that but it that's not really. The main job of Davis Cup coach is the Davis. Oh all fed cup coach because I mean there might be some tactical stuff on the court. But it's more about galvanizing team and getting them wanting eighteen to play wanting to play for you And he's obviously done that with Garcia because he's not had a great year on the tour rankings. Drop to somewhere in the forties. I nothing now. Really shouldn't given her skill satin load of parallels Madonna Vich has has a lower ceiling. Garcia doesn't mean sea should be top ten playa but she has saved her best tennis perfect company. She she. She wants to ties in their first match this year against Belgium and then she won a tie against Romania in the semifinals. And that was a that. It was a really big deal for France to beat rainiers. Simone highlight led Romania. And she made it very known how much she wants his yours Fed Cup Anton yet they managed they managed to take down in the in the decisive doubles. And that was Garcia kicking combining. Which obviously I find the backstory really fascinating because it was the it was the First Cup final that front reached in twenty six game which they lost and for the the five members of the team were in that team so pretty much the same and it was after that FA Cup final where their relationship broke down completely completely disintegrated and they were? It was pretty nasty actually points inside when doubles punish ships. See last week's EXP focused on French. Then the payoff if they get back together as always is is is w with so that the axis assist that calcium. The partnership has been fundamental to Francis success in the Fed Cup. Because you know the last two years Garcia hasn't played Fed Cup France. uh-huh haven't been so strong in this competition. She's back as both a singles player and then addiction. Suddenly they're in the final again. She is fundamental to this team. And who with the other two that were in twenty sixty at least call night and Pauline Parmentier. And then you've aw Fiona Ferro this year who who wasn't in in there around twenty sixty and so for Australia so to be clear we've got captain coach Bennett. Oh we've got Garcia we've got Denisovich co ferro pulling on KUNA for strata. We have coach Nicole Pratt Ashkenazi. Of course leading the way on Tomjanovich some stove Yep and then captain similar and then Astra Sharma and priscilla makeup makeup the rest of the team. So it's one of those where you think. Do you want a really strong number. One like Australia's got with much more depth like France have gone with you know they could probably call on each corner. It's the rest of the subject. The French situation isn't it. They've got the haven't got the stand out player. But if that and history kind of showing you you probably want the number one I think. Yeah I mean see I mean my child. It is is punctuated by watching Tim. Henman in the Davis Cup ties singlehandedly. Remember one against Thailand. I think we partnered in the doubles but basically single handedly won that time. I mean it is possible possible but I think I think he wants to see you want to see a nation win it where it's a group. Yes hundreds of tales like you should be rewarded for the whole team. Yeah and look. Australia have got other players as well Samsung Rosa. Who have mentioned so much competition the sixteen years and is kind of Ash Party Talks about her paving the way for herself really Grand Slam champion to top of the game so along and she? She complied crucial role. If it came down particularly to be really emotional Fed Cup really make I mean just thinking about about when she and Zhang won the doubles Nathan this year. That was one of the most unexpected moments of the year of me. How they both were? I mean there's the backstory with Jiang. Shrayan that she she quit tennis didn't shave. It's actually this way to combat social given statuses. I uses history. It'll straighten open and tough. Tough time. She's had there for her to lift Detroit it open. Poignant really poignant yeah so I I think I mean if they were to do it this weekend that I think that we prepare ourselves more work I think the other classic Fed Cup scenario. You've got hey. Is that the French team. A role physically the very fresh because they weren't only Medina vic she was at the w j won the doubles as she's informed but the rest of the team arrived in Perth quite early. They've I've been now wild at fresh versus the Australia team. Whether number one notch parties implying right up to the end of the season pushing herself hard and handsome stoves are also played doubles in in Shenzhen. But then again they match tough they match ready. Remember the Davis Cup final last year. That was a big debate about Chilean church. who had played at the two off charge was an alternate hair and everyone was like well? Maybe that's hired. Well no they were just just inform and they just could have carried through the tie and I think it's I think it's better to have informed players rather than plays to a fresh but they fresh because they've not played a lot of matches recently. Which is what you've got picked from? He's GonNa I'm GonNa Austrailia. I think I think I think party will go three and out. I think I can't losing a singles. I think she's Sexual standout singles player. But I do think Tomjanovich might lose both and they might come down to the deciding doubles that would be my prediction. Well I've frustrated but David's unexpectedly for frahm but we now have a system with newsletter predictions. Where risk is rewarded wooded? Yes saying yes you made your prediction. David made his and there was no third option me so I had to predict Zygmunt final. And what did he go for Dimaano right classic classic. That's kind of cheating. The risk rewards food element has been introduced subsequent to some debate about whether it was acceptable to predict the federal between Basel. Yes because does that even count. I mean it's not in what the people come to our predictions zone for. Is it right then say mentally up at three. Am To watch the Fed Cup finals. If you want to watch it live dot Fed Cup dot com. You can watch it live on the Fed Cup final will affect co website So that'll be happening through the night over over the weekends. David will be here to defend his case for France on Sunday. What time should I go to bed? That's my the big question with Krisha question. Will you be able to get a nuton often. The tennis as in so it was three a m wh- wh- roughly were expected to finish looking out for that eight. Am Eight am. Will you then be able to get a couple of extra hours. So we're going to record Post Day One. I can shed you that around your napping okay okay. Let's get a nap if you can get enough I would. I'd say go to bed by ten ten. Does I was thinking five hours. Get Moist tennis another couple of hours. It's doable right. Yeah I'll respect your right to that I used to. I used to do this all the time watching the Australian Open. I've got a taste used to not having to British hours out of SYNC. I think it's easier to stay up is to go to bed and then wake up talks. Yeah it's not the night it's not the morning what is it is is determined. David Moore has his idea. That's what it is. Don't even think about it. David don't if Matt's awaken receiving WHATSAPP from you'll be gone wrong at Toyota. We assemble cars and trucks right here here with American hands. American hands at the design table and on the assembly line handing over keys. Hammering assembling hardworking hands hands that volunteer hands that served our country hands. The coach t-ball the hands that a symbol or vehicles. Hold us together so when we get asked who we are we proudly raise. He's our hands and say we are Toyota. USA Toyota vehicles and components are assembled in the US using US and globally source parts Just quickly and we'll have more time for this tomorrow because they don't have mentioned this but we are doing daily pods midday here the ot today they've done the bit differently. They brought two groups together. We had group press conferences. which obviously you see Davison Fed cups and stuff and Labor Cup? You don't usually see it among a group of players that are opponents for the tournament. Yes and it was a bit strange. must say it was quite cool to see the interactions between the players. That part of it. I was fine you on board with the difficulty is that it almost felt like verity knees sit surpassed basically anyone who wasn't federal doll kind of got off lightly lightly because they weren't really awesome any questions or it was the lack of an opportunity to really get much insight into how they were feeling because naturally so many of the questions do go to Federal Darlan and Jock avaition these situations. They Berrettini wasn't inundated with questions is definitely not inundated. He did he was asked. A question. Answered it very nicely impolitely and charmingly but yeah it it felt like they do slightly just kind of woken up. They're all they're all in the drawer. Didn't he. Did a social media video. Yeah you to say to the draw and didn't mention the fact that he was running forty five minutes late yet he looks suspiciously like just work but there are a couple of a couple of funny lines in the Dow talking about how he's thirty three and a half which. I didn't think thing when you get to thirty three up to six and a half seven and a half. But you're not thirty three off durable it Kinda was but I was like he's he's a Spanish thing and the other good line thirty three and three quarter courses. Three months time I also notes the Another good line came from Medvedev. He was asked whether he is kind of following. In the footsteps of Davidenko Uncut who won the Russian one the first iteration of the HP finals at the two and Medvedev said yes. It's it's cool that Avidan then co one the first one and here I am the last one either a very innocent mixing of stats or a tremendous trove because obviously the lost ost. HP Finals in London not this year next year. So maybe saying I'm going to be hit next year as well. Maybe it's a subtle bit of confidence the skies as getting his role knowing Medvedev. I think it was probably the latter. I I speak to later them to Donald. We'll have more time to tomorrow to go into the little nuggets that I picked up but didn't know Medvedev without too much prompting. You promised me that he would do the Medvedev Don's if he wins on Sunday and I didn't mention winning I said other push crimes going to don and he said actually not the first person to ask me that and his face really lit up. I think David if you're listening and concerned about being left with only the memories and the metronomic winning of titles. I think well my experience of him today. I think allay your concerns a bit because I asked him about how he's expecting the crowds to receive amateurs. Ask That in press conference as well. And he didn't back away from it. He wasn't trying to distance himself from you know being a bit of the bad had guy in developing a reputation for staying camp crowds. He was embracing that many had that glint in his eye. which is what we what we WANNA see say finance David's yes and probably should say the other line from the Dow about his injury the fact that he started serving yesterday Thursday taking it very slowly he knows how to serve? That's basically what he said he basically said I just need to be fair and then myself which is like like Serena said at Wimbledon. Play tennis one of my favorite lines. Can't can't dispute that absolutely not. Yeah Yeah so you know what matches we'll be saying on Sunday. Monday will stop they Agassi Group on Sunday. Which is the Federal Jakovich Team Bernardini Group and then we get the ball creep on Monday? I find these Great titles little bit bizarre because they too went in the same era but whatever worthy namesake's I feel like last year they were on was hit. The QUERTON group Nasty. Yes and I feel like rich. Logical GEICO staff is is the federal group in terms of era prescrip- I think so they'll be like what would that be. They'll be sort of one. Call US forever group. Seen a few years time there will be the material the Barrosa Taghi Group. Yeah so the boom boom Graffman which is member. SIPC pass and adul- Vera so we'll preview as much as tomorrow More nuggets from media. And whatever else we've picked up from being roundabout in Media Lounge pretty quiet here. We've had a lovely lunch. It's definitely exceed. Having a flashback of all French Open experiences being held without David's desperately hoping that the equipment equipment wouldn't fail on me. I mean famous last words. I hope you're hearing this sounds right. In which case of the equipment has helped me but the very importantly the food is just a world away from what we experienced in Paris. Say Hooray for that. I think that's about it for a cut cup finals preview and the business. I think we need. 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Fast Money 11/19/18

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Fast Money 11/19/18

"Are you prepared to navigate today's bond market's at MFS we help advisors help their clients by assessing market risks and finding opportunities. Learn more at MSN dot com. Bass money starts right now on the NASDAQ market vita. Overlooking New York City's Times Square, I'm Melissa Leo traders on the desk or Pena, Jerry and Tim Seymour, Dan, Nathan guide Dominy, and let's get right to the major market selloff. The Dow falling more than five hundred points at the lows of the day. The Dow SNP erasing their November gains. But the NASDAQ was the big loser down. Three percent falling deeper into correction territory and tech is in turmoil checkout, the likes of Facebook, Amazon Netflix all getting absolately crush today. Facebook now on track for its worst month since may twenty thirteen more on that in just a minute. Plus, apple and chips. They're getting slammed. Take a look at Invidia. That's more than ten percent. This all after a port to smartphone makers cutting production for its newest iphone models tech giant on-track for its worst month since the financial crisis. So as a tech inferno rages on how much worse can get. What do you do at tech guy? Well, how much was it? Again, terms ES and think another four or five percent a few weeks ago in the s&p was down five percent. And you turn me. So what do you think it can go down another eight or nine percent from here? Fourteen percent, make spout sense in terms of where puts s and p it puts it at twenty five thirty now, we've sort of vacillated back and forth. But I still think that's the radar screen now say this quickly. No, the some of the the market has changed like the feel of the market has definitely changed. And quite frankly, it started with Netflix reported. What was a pretty strong quarter? You saw huge move to the upside. And look what Netflix stunned over the last couple of weeks point being good news as being discounted batterings reports of being throttled, and that's an environment change. So I do think you could see twenty-five thirty to the downside, the S and P five hundred. Yeah. So I think it has a lot to do with the fact that there's just unusually positive sentiment a very small amount of names that made up a disproportionate amount of the the indices that they're in. And we know what these names are. And also the performance all year long making up for these these small group of mega cap tech names that you forget at one point this year. Netflix who's up fifty sixty percent of the year. Amazon was sick. Sixty percents still up thirty percents all those. So I think would happen here is investors said this might be as good as it gets. And they all headed for the door at the same time. That's why we still have this market where we have so many names that are obviously in correctional. What a lot of people will call crash territory, and it's not gonna end listen, the weight Invidia quotes, and it's second down day closing on the dead low two days in a row like that. That's bad news. You do not want to try to catch a falling knife. Like that right now. Nobody's buying on the dip. So we're seeing all these pullbacks, right? And before investors have been conditioned to go in and buy when it's down. We're not seeing that. In fact, I think there's been a couple of good notes Morgan Stanley most notable that have you know, buying the dip is not worked in two thousand eighteen. So it's actually been a big failure. Dan, talks about where the index actually isn't really showing the pain that's below the index because actually, and maybe actually the difference is about to happen. If you get these juggernaut stocks continue to sell off the way, they are which really make up a big component of the index. I would go back to you should be watching rates right now, you know, three oh five and the ten year. We're we're. Doing to tell you that the market does not believe that there, you know, that the economy's either has strong, or is that the fed will take us further fed expectations for December by the way continue to slip route about seventy percent that they will go in December. And by the way, that could go to fifty fifty if you consider the way the market's going housing numbers this morning. We're terrible Pedo Mike Wilson was so great. And who is right in front of all of this right for Morgan Stanley. He got out there on this set right here talking about how he viewed the market itself. And he talked about the idea that he thought tech was gonna drag us down. He's been exactly right now. Now, he seems to be a little less Barish. But he's still there. He doesn't he's not saying, hey, it's time to just go in and start buying. So I think that is a concern to concern. Also is that people got burned enough times trying to buy the dips? And now all of a sudden that's not working. So that's a real problem. But I still think you look for quality. I think there are opportunities out there. I'll give you a great example something like an Invidia now when it was trading at sixty times when everybody loved it at two hundred we talked about that earlier today. Two hundred bucks. They love on video. They do everything right there. Crypto. They've got this. I've got that data centers. And now they've decelerate a little bit and data centers. Right. So that was the problem that was part of the crypto revenues dipped significantly in terms of the projections for q four, but you know, what at some point. I'm not saying it's yet guys better with the tech tech technicals than I am. But at one forty five it now trades at eighteen times earnings that it's finally something where I think you can look at a name like that and say, you know, what at eighteen times. Maybe it is about. I haven't bought it yet though, I'm thinking, but you're lucky. Well, it's interesting. So I called into Thursday, by the way. And is that. Penny or for elected officials watch fast money, they showed frankly shouldn't be they should be doing their jobs, but maybe they're taking a break. And they happen to be watching right now. I curse you to sort of be prepared next time. There is a storm in the northeast. We actually get these from time to time that being said my six hour our markets in which you didn't get go anywhere. Actually, you went. You know, you got done. It's unbelievable. Called. Nvidia was five thirty on the show. I said, you know, what the fact that they got it down as much as they have sock. Overshoots the upside I think it's gonna overshoot to dance. And my downside target was about one thirty eight. So to Pete's point. You know, you now you within a whisper of that stock being interested again, not only unavowed basis, but on a technical based. Yeah. So so why has by the dip not worked in two thousand eighteen I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that the fundamentals for these companies are changing when you think about it. You know, everyone was focused on a couple of names getting to a trillion dollars market cap. New these massive product cycles that were doing it and they're buying back stock in the global economy was getting better all that's how we started the year. And then we went down in a straight line. And then we spent most of the rest of the year getting back to those prior highs. What's happened in the last two months, we've seen some chinks in the armor of these stories that you couldn't find them in prior. And let's just let's us name them. Okay. Amazon guided this quarter doubt, we're not gonna know until January woman get their holiday sales if they have to do it again. It's so that stocks going back two thousand. Dollars. Apple they had that iphone guidance. We all knew was going to be messy. But if they don't achieve the units in the second, we're not gonna know also about the us that's going back down. I mean, that's the story. The fundamentals have kind of changed. These companies are very mature now, and they were trading at peak levels margins evaluate this market environment in which you have the slaughter of these tech giants which had been market leadership prior. And then you have names like Coca Cola trading at its highest level since it's I feel back in nineteen nineteen well churches that there's still a lot of money that needs to stay in the market and needs find a place to go. Mcdonald's have been outperforming Starbucks who's been outperform use companies. It also seemed to be actually getting through either hire input costs or don't have big trade fears. You know, you talk about what's changed fundamentally debt? What's changes, actually, the trade fears really have affected the business when apple tells you that emerging markets really are starting to struggle. And this is where they're going to sell some of those lower price phones. It's a big deal. So I I agree that the places to hide her are are becoming few fewer and farther between, but I do think stocks below the surface have. Removed an enormous amount off of the valuations, and I still think some of the big industrial names their businesses are not over. And I think actually they've really been priced almost to destruct. And that was one of the other things that Mike Wilson talked about is the fact that in the last year you're eighteen percent from where the Ps were your ago. So you're starting to see opportunities out there. And maybe that means that there are some names that can start to outperform that weren't before. I mean, how how many years have we talked about coq on this desk or Pepsi or some of these where they just haven't had that performance. John jase. And some of the farm names have JJ's another one of these names that's been very impressive on these down days. And they're not going there to hide. I don't think I think their different elements of what John Jay. And some of those are offering that gives them the opportunity for pricing. But could anyone on this desk, sit here and say, yes, you should be hiding out and Coca-Cola don't hide anywhere. No. But that's the only reason why these stocks are performing right now, they're considered Staples. Look like how McDonald's and coke. And some of the stuff is acting. I mean to me, I don't think it makes a lot of sense when the market is now, very focused on valuation of growth names of companies that have just changed the world, and you want to go and buy sugar water stocks. It makes no sense at twenty two. Think about the valuation of these quote, unquote, values values. Got to look a little stretch. Right. We'll quickly unravel. This. You mentioned farm of big kept farmers been trading. Well, it's has been a place to hide its extra in a place to be. There's talked about that for a long time five since President Trump went after them in the spring. I think when the stock was trading thirty seven and a half is basic ministry lines to the upside moves we haven't seen in Pfizer and probably the last ten years. Proctor and gamble on the other hand, I don't know. I mean, I think people are racing to it for some perceived safety. But at twenty times forward earnings for Procter and gamble is that really where you want to be. I don't think. So. All right. Well, one name in the tech fall out Facebook in his on-track for its worst month and more than five years. The stock continues to get now those reports of an internal quote unquote war at the company dominate the headlines. Truly abortions got more on that story. Julia molest says Facebook losing nearly six percent today after this weekend. The Wall Street Journal reported on CEO, Mark Zuckerberg adopting a more aggressive style thing with Facebook's at war. He's. Changing his protege now today questions shift to how Facebook's issues will impact its user base and his dollars. Brian weezer at pivotal reiterating a sell rating on the stock and warning quote advertiser concerns about morality at Facebook are real post last week's New York Times articles on the company, we don't see immediate financial impact. But other risks the business are elevated on many fronts, but Facebook tells me that in the wake of last week's New York Times expose since his third quarter earnings report, quote, we haven't seen any meaningful trends in advertisers, pulling spend, but Facebook is still struggling with a range of challenges, including stagnating user growth daily activism in the US in Canada were flat between the second and third quarter. While in Europe daily users declined by million the company's stock has plummeted some thirty nine percent since it's cute to earnings report. There's a growing expectation of federal privacy regulation as well as the potential for antitrust scrutiny. And there's all. Comes amid growing criticism of Zuckerberg and COO Sheryl Sandberg. And that's something stock price has brought the value of zuckerberg's holdings down by over eight billion dollars as for whether we'll see any dramatic changes at the top of the company, that's entirely up to Zuckerberg who controls the majority of voting shares Melissa back. Juliette? Thank you. Julie Warsun in Los Angeles for us. If you thought Facebook had an engagement problem, which it does core Facebook at least, and you thought it was able to fix the problem. Maybe that fixes even harder to do. If it's got handcuffs on it covers regulation and the amount of money and the the growth in terms of paying people that are there for security reasons and everything else, and we this stock really started that move to the downside on the announcement of how much money they were going to have to start down forty percent from its all time. Yeah. And it wasn't that was near around the same time. I remember we were going through the earnings report. And then suddenly we see these huge numbers about what they're going to have to spend a grow that we knew that they were going to be spending. But I don't think any of us on the desk thought it was going to be that kind of numbers. When we saw that. That's when the slide really began celery. I think they told us and that second quarter number not only that they didn't know how to price their business that they didn't actually know the cost of security that effectively that they were not a community of sharing. I repeat this. The perception of Facebook's business has changed so dramatically and so therefore the fix on Facebook. If it's a community of sharing just few programmers. You actually do a couple things around the edges. No, this is actually fundamental. This actually tells you they told you growth was falling down to not just the cost out of the business. This is corporate case. That's what it is. And you've been all over it the CBC dot com up ED's. It's been really a tree. Go to him. Tim sable? Really important here. It's an of your agree on everything that you guys just said about Facebook as an investor you'd be crazy not to extrapolate to what Google is going to have to deal with in two thousand nineteen. You're just I mean, it just makes absolutely no sense to consider the fact that they will not have to take some similar steps seem company though, debt. I I actually disagree with that. I think some of the corporate governance issues that Facebook are ones that really was a lack of oversight a lack of visibility. I mean, I think it's actually a case where these guys really weren't able to articulate the risks around the company that's very hard to me. Other than you online dot com in July late, July this Facebook was trading at two hundred seventeen dollars before that report who really thought that. This was something that they're going to have to deal with in two thousand nineteen. It was going to be the sorta hit to earnings that made earnings be flat year over year. After at one point. We're expected to be up twenty percent in two thousand nine hundred. Okay, why with thirty percent growth in the top line for the last three years? In fact, arguably thirty five was this trading at sixteen seventeen eighteen times going into that number. You know, why the market was telling you people were not rewarding this management team with the premium the ultimate value for companies, the multiple you wanna put on it. And we were not willing eating before the second quarter Facebook underperform the triple going into that number let alone after it. I would argue that this company has been broken for a long time. And that the market would not reward it and the market was right is is a company capable of fixing itself. Same two people all in charge. Well, I mean, it's interesting because I think Pete common in this earlier today. But when you have Mark Benny off making comments house that that he did about. I mean, that's that's not necessarily a very encouraging thing for the share price. Now. I never thought it was get down to one thirty or so, and then a certain point you have to look at it and say they will figure it out. But to answer your question does it need to be changed at the top. In terms of Mr. Zuckerberg? I dunno in San Brooke, I don't know the answer that but the closer that than we've been in a long time should say the analyst community is so far off sides on this stock to if you think about. Target. There's so much that needs to come down. And they will come down. They'll come down. You know, the after the next twenty percent move sorry for the sarcasm. But the bottom line is guys were banging the table at two fifteen to twenty on the stock and weren't picking up on any of this. And now they're picking up on it. You know, strange coming up the bears are comment for Boeing the stock inches away from bear market territory as it is on its longest losing streak since July twenty fourteen but could now be your best hand to buy this industrial giant. Plus, check out shares of L Brian's retailer getting slammed after hours in the chart master something brewing in the retail space that might have you're running for cover. He'll flame not all bad news out there guy down here. 'cause there's one energy stocks one that is points for Iran stews. Because he's going to tell you the name. Fast bitch, live or Times Square, New York City, much, more Baffoni right after this. Thanks for listening to the NBC podcast will return after a short break, are you prepared to navigate today's bond market's at MFS. We help advisors help their clients by assessing market risks and finding opportunities. Learn more at dot com. Welcome back to fast money Boeing shares. Crashing today closing down more than four percent. The stock now sitting on the verge of a bear market down nearly twenty percent from its high last month. It is having its worse losing streak in four years. It's on track for its worst quarter since twenty eleven so should you buy Boeing, Tim? Well, tell you what I think it was a final trade from me last week. I don't own the stock. But the the argument and the investment set up is very much the same as it was six months ago. So Dan talked about changing fundamentals. I don't think they're fundamentals of change. I think about six percent of their orderbook could be affected by China directly. I think otherwise there's a series of long-term orders of these guys at one they just won the X orderbook another bonus these guys continue to win, and again, who are they competing against this is essentially a duopoly it's an Airbus and who's really winning the war. Absolutely Boeing, you're talking about twenty five bucks per share of free cash flow. It's been unbelievable that story is alive. And well, and I don't think is affected really at all by the trade war. So I actually liked this week. Max have at the problem with the max, then they generally headline. Absolutely. And I think that's the big concern. And that's part of what I think is really pushing it down because to your point. I mean, they're throwing off cash like crazy. It's absolutely incredible. And now with this pope we've seen in the stock. The P is a lot more appetizing in eighteen that it was in the twenties not too long ago. So I think there's a lot of reasons to look at this name. And when we start to see a turn this is name. I'd be looking at. I think he goes make a really good point in. It goes back. We were just talking about Moore. No, listen, there's going to be some stocks or thrown out baby with the bathwater and just painted with the same brush. There's a lot of little metaphors, right? One. Right. One wish. That only six percent of their orderbook is affected by China. And this is a stock just above market multiple. And all you know, that's a name that if it gets back to three hundred that's where you start picking it something like that go back to the quarter on October twenty four there reported their third quarter. They guided significantly higher for the remainder of the year their margins were thirteen point two percent. The students looking for eleven point four percent. So if Boeing was if Boeing was an all concern, they could have guided more in in line they could have guided lower. They did not now to your point. I agree. They should be somewhat insulated from this. However, the market is selling first asking questions later in terms of this trade tariff, there's a level where this gets very interesting, but the longer this goes on, and I happen to think the dispute war skirmish the longer goes on the worst gets and I think it's going to go on for awhile. Check out chairs the square getting crushed down more than ten percent. This office twenty something it hasn't done since it went public will explain I'm Melissa you're watching money on CNBC. I and business will live. In the meantime, here's what else is coming up on fast. Yep. That's how investors have been dealing and the chug master says he sees something that could mean it's about to get a lot worse than you think. He will explain plus Kaya dumbest stepping up to the plate to tell us the one name. He says while the home run into year end he'll give us a past that and much more on fast money right after this break. The fact of the matter was he was a crook. This is a story that is not well known it stuck in my mind about this was in the White House, but it really should be especially maybe male. Oh my God. Rachel, Maddow and MSNBC present bagman. Listen for free wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to pass money. Shares of L brands thinking and the after our session after reporting earnings. Let's get the Courtney Reagan at headquarters with all the details. Take time Moses and some additional surprises from L brands. You mentioned the stock is lower the company cutting its annual dividend in half two dollar twenty before that at a seven percent yield. The company says the new payout ratio is more consistent with its past. And it's gonna use that three hundred and twenty five million dollars to de leverage, the balance sheet second, we knew Victoria's secrets that yo- Jan singer resigned. After two years L brands today announced John me Haas. We'll be the new CEO of that lingerie brand. He's currently president of Tory. Burch third L brands upping its full your guidance student adjusted to sixty two to eighty the street is at two sixty four now MorningStar analyst, Jamie cats didn't think the dividend. Cut would come this quickly. But says it's a prudent step for the board to take further cats. As merging pressure remains significant indicating either the product is failing to resonate or the pricing landscape remains competitive. Meantime, R be Riley analysts, Susan Anderson says the. Davidenko was likely expected by lot of investors given they'd yet to turn the performance around. Siemian Siegel and Instinet says L brands is in the midst of figuring out their operational and financial turnaround, especially need to digest the implications of management and financial change working to determine where revenues are going next. And then from Wedbush Jen reading also said that she likes the new CEO change. It'll take nine to twelve months for any real change to be made to expect expect negative margin pressure. In the meantime, Melissa all right court. Thanks courtney. Reagan headquarters, we've seen the biggest names in retail under pressure with only thirty six thirty six days. So chris. And then you know, what this week is at all. It's hump day. The week of the whole entire shopping. Did you hit those terms to you hit almost everything about the holidays? I love the holidays. I don't like when people gobble gobble happy Turkey. It makes me crazy. Not my honor. This is a happy week, man. Yeah. Horta worth a bitch as views on here. Now brands, right? I'm not I'm not I was trading from the option side of had small position on. I don't have a position on now. Just to be clear, I still like the company on this pullback. Remember, they went forty five percent off the lows in August up to the peak somewhere a couple of weeks ago as pulled back ten percent. I don't think Victoria secret is turned around overnight. But I do think that the core businesses is is there, and I think this company is actually very cheap. We've already seen autos and housing get crushed. Our next guest says retail could be the next consumer space, Saul MasterCard to work over the Plasco to break it down. Hi carter. Well, so there's a lot of stocks holding out as the market has been collapsing. Big names. And last week. They all got smoked from Burlington Ross stores. TJ axe to target all down between seven and twenty percent. And in principle. It's always the last man standing that finally gets it and that process is underway. If you think about it wanted to look at is the sector, I at one point look at this spreads. This is the actual sector, which of course, has Home Depot and Amazon in it versus the e. Kuwait S and P five hundred consumers at one point. There was fourteen hundred basis points of spread meaning the average stock the meetings suck was not performing. But the sector looks great because Home Depot, Amazon others, we're doing. Well, now, of course, the selling has gotten around to those names. So while this is converged, ultimately, this is likely to go negative, and I would expect the equal way to get worse a few charts, and then we can go on from there. This is a great ETF. It's broad ninety. Plus names, it has everything from WalMart to Amazon Cosco Kroger. It's got all the names like Tiffany. And Ralph Lauren so expertise the symbol. Here's the chart and one thing that sort of his inescapable is that basically you have the double top formation. But here is also the issue as this was performing all of this ascent. It really was never making much progress this way. So is it making you money, or in fact, as as a proposition it's opportunity costs. That's really hurting you now, here's the. More interesting thing take a look at this relative line. So again, the top is not the bottom is the relative performance. What's on top? You can put anything in there versus the SNP. And what we know is every single time that the expertise relative performance line got up to this level it has failed and it failed again. And again, and again, this is literally what algorithms are all about and to my I there's plenty more to go. Just not not not good. Let's look at a few more. This is the sector itself again actual weight and it's hovering on the line. And I'm gonna make the bet right? That we're going to ultimately break the line the way to figure that out. He's not look at this. But look at the equal weight watch what's happened. Again. If we will wait it it's already happened, meaning without the influence of few large-cap SuperCup performers. We've already broken trend. That's the bet for the sector overall, a stock picker two, and let's let's call it quits. Here's a best buy believe it as earnings coming up. It is on the line. It's on the line. It's on the line. It's on the line. And then, of course, it fails. Not good. It's likely what's coming for other stocks. Totally switch it up different name Nike same circumstance same principle. A well defined up trend not because I say, so your eyes are working. You can see what it's done and what it's done is broken trend now. Not a good setup. And then finally if that's not an shoulders top. I don't know what it is not good something's wrong. How over Carter? All right through work. Not because he says, so. Char-, you know, for a while people were saying that a retail that there was none wine of along Amazon short, bricks and mortar trade, and then that trade was unraveled. And so that has caused the most recent move lower in retail. So I'm wondering did the charts play out that way? And what to the charts indicate about that trade going? I mean, running Ramzan there's there's there's trading sort of matters. Can you make dollar here for an overbought oversold condition? Can you find somebody that's breaking or not break and then as a structural issue? Sure, structurally, we know that Amazon has changed a lot of things, and it's probably going to keep on changing rain right now. It's only half the size of all mart in terms of the business. It does. But I think the important thing is this that decay doesn't happen all at once. I in the market or in consumer you lose auto. So you lose housing where we lost semi's or us back. But eventually the selling gets around to everything as we're seeing. Now it's gotten around Amazon it's gotten around to net flicks. It's it's basically finding and you guys were talking about this before. Your sugar water fizzy water money's hiding in a few names at some point they go after those as well. Can you put your communists kept on quickly? Do you believe the cellophane retail? Does it mean anything about the consumers? Just just a rotation. I would say it has to be that. Are we going to one percent unemployment or too many? He's probably all peak. Right. That it's as good as it could could get and that the market is now saying, yes, maybe this is this is as good as it gets. And you can't you can't companies numbers month year over year and the evaluations don't support it. So Carter you put up a bunch of names? But you just you did mention Amazon, and we know how Home Depot acted a couple of weeks ago how WalMart acted last week. Those are the mega cap ones. They all acted HARA Ren Disley to Amazon did have bad news. But does that just not pretend well for the just well? Very old fashioned act. Well, say how scientific has night does that. That's a great phrase. It's it doesn't act. Well, they know it in sports. He's not playing. Well, let's get him out there. Don't act. Well, the tape is heavy. Something's not right Carter. Thank you. Thank you of cornerstone. Macro. Why I think Carter makes a great point how the numbers on the retail side. One one percent unemployment what's already priced in. But speaking of acting. Well, I just think we tells acted so poorly going into holiday season where totally outperformed the SNP from black Friday cyber Monday gobble-gobble, by the way guy. I'm sure if no one said that to you yet. But the bottom line, here's I actually think retail is going to have a great holiday season. I said two weeks ago, I think it's discount will they dominate or do you think that there's a broader picture than that? I mean, like for instance, I like Ross stores like TJ Maxx, obviously discounters I love target. I think because of the diversity that's a good name as well. It's pulled down because of WalMart since that WalMart numbers, they would WalMart was over one hundred. Target's been down down down down. I think that creates opportunity we'll find out very soon. It's a good question. And I think the kind of demographic that's been most helped out by wage gains is absolutely the target and WalMart shopper. And I think it does bode well for them. But I think some parts are discretionary are going to do very well. And again, these are companies that have actually given you decent guidance in the last numbers. I don't think they've been off Amazon did not guys Amazon guided revenues done five percent into their holiday like strong quarter. And I'll just pick one point, you know, all these companies target WalMart. They're all doing better in ecommerce. Amazon was dominating getting every other dollar of new growth there. Now, we're starting to see that's good for everybody. It is. It will. Maybe it's dislike profitable for everyone else. Everyone has to match all the being and all that. I think that's in the price. That's what we assume that their margins were going zero. Let's see what target puts up to. Doesn't target has margin. Walmart does not stripping each over over each other to get you your stuff that you bought like an hour later. You know, I mean, this is not profitable sales. We'll see coming up faxing read again today as big tech drag dragged down the market by guy. Here is one name. He says could see a major urine rally you'll tell what it is. Plus the stock. So often busters are worried the high yield market could be signaling more pain ahead. How big of a threat is corporate debt. We'll explain it. Back money, Richard. Welcome back to fast money, another dismal day for the markets. The Dow tumbling four hundred points in along with the S and P five hundred racing all the gains for the month tech and consumer discretionary stocks dragging down the Mark with only two sectors in the green utilities ending the best ending the day is the best performing sector. But despite today's sell off guy is looking at one sock that could be poised for year end rally. He's over at the plasma to break down his fastpitch guy, everybody high guy here at the smart board, and we're gonna we're gonna do a power pitch. I didn't have the mid today. Apologized for that. We're going to do Valero symbol is via Zillow and you'll say, what are you talking about refiners have been grim death? And you're right Valero after making I think in all time high of one twenty seven is now trading eighty dollars. That's a significant sell of folks. But you know, what I happen to think the selloff is significantly overdone number to crack for spreads or not nearly as favorable as they were four or five months ago, but they haven't. Totally collapsed yet either not nearly as much as the stock would suggest. So to me the cracks spread is still somewhat favorable. And the last one recent upgrade at Credit Suisse on November first they like it as well. Now, the stock is sold off recently on the back of that. But I think at this level. It's very interesting. Let's put up a chart, please. And you will see as Dan just told me, you know, we're at levels that we last saw back in the fall of last year. So there's a very good chance around in the seventy six seventy seven dollar level where we basically are this stock gets very tradeable. So although obviously has been under tremendous pressure in my opinion, valuation sell off being overdone still somewhat favorable cracks spreads bolero makes sense at this level. We can all see how bad that line line. The line support shins for guy. Tim. I'm actually kind of in favor. I'm this is a t he's to how I'm going to vote. So you might have one vote but talking about either cracks or or the dynamic here where the cheaper oil gets the better it gets for refiners. And remember that they were big outperforms the last time oil was trading it should. And you get you know, this season -ality factor that should actually start to work for them as well. But it hasn't worked out because I think what's happened is people that so much gains in the refiners to soil Valero that I think they're taking money off the table. They're selling first asking questions later. Look the environment is not nearly as favorable. I think to your point, but it's not nearly as dire as this move suggest. So although I think the self is somewhat justified. It's not justified down to this level, eighty bucks guy, real quick question. Mark Fisher was on today. And he was talking about he thinks oil has hit basically, call it a bottom, and there's more to the upside do you agree with that at all or or not not with this Valero call this? I need a quick answer. But I'll say this quickly because that's what only time has four. But I'll say this the. Move to the upside net gas. That's why I think we saw that significant move lower in crude, I think energy traders got themselves offsides in net gas. And that's why you saw the precipitous selloff in crude oil. They had the trade on backwards time to vote are you buying or selling guys pitch on Valera, Pete Nigerian? What do you say? He's very convincing. I put guys a winner guide hasn't winter winter winter winter winter that guy that's guy. All right. We are. Yeah. I agree with guy. He's definitely thumbs up, buddy. Thumbs up. Disagree with guy because I don't know much about Valero. I just think we're in a market right now when you see underlying commodity move the way it did. And this stock move that way. I don't know why you have to tie. That'd be a hero in catch a falling knife here. T- buys went cell. He said. Combined guys pitch for Valero. He's really sad vote at ten VC fast. Money's where the pole is. We will reveal results later in the show percent. So far say, no. But there's still time to vote boss. The bitcoin harsh show continues as a crypto crap below five thousand first time in more than a year can anything stop the bleeding traders away, in fact money. Welcome back to corporate debt levels are rising to record levels and beginning to spook investors. So is a major crisis ahead are Mike sent holy as live at the NYSE with more in that. Hey, mike. I'm Elissa think it certainly too soon to say a major crisis as a heavy you can understand why there's things -iety building up around corporate debt levels and also the behavior of the corporate bond market the level of corporate debt right now as a ratio to GDP is pretty much as high as it's ever been in those previous peaks that you might see on the chart at about forty five percent of GDP are pretty much coinciding with peaks before we had recessions. And now, you have the possibility that the corporate markets become less generous, right? You have spreads going up. Investors demanding higher yields to take on the risk of especially lower investment grade debt, like triple-b, rated that has gone up a lot recently. That's where GE debt is. Of course, a lot of the anxieties surrounding Jian the possibility of those bonds being downgraded, but I do. Think you have to step back and take a longer term perspective on exactly where we are in terms of spreads. If you look way back toward the year two thousand you can barely see this increase in spreads. It seems like it's pretty premature to think that it's something that the markets can't handle at this point, especially when you consider a very tiny percentage of corporate debt is coming due in the next year or so it's really two to three years out that you'd have kind of that reckoning can they refinance can they pay off the debt? So to me, it's one headwind for valuations. It shows you stocks stockholders are definitely gravitating to a companies with less debt because they're worried about this. But right now, it just seems like one more pinch to margins and maybe a little bit of a winnowing of winners and losers versus any kind of crisis. That would spill into the real Connie team or years away for win the debt reckoning happened is that seems to coincide with the when most people are calling for over session if they are calling for a Russian recession. They're saying twenty twenty that's not good time. Well, exactly, Melissa. And by the way recession is when this really starts to hit the cash flows right now. Now without a recession seemed like there's sufficient to service this debt level. All right, Mike. Thanks, Mike Santoli at the new York Stock Exchange, should we be worried well to us at twenty nine month lows. It's getting models. Talking to a trader before the show is basically his quote was it's getting mauled. So the bottom line is the keys, really. It's about the credits though. So high yield you can understand in this environment. There's some corporates that Bartolotta debt, and that number in terms of corporate debt, either GDP, etc. A lot of these guys did it at zero rates, and they did it because of zero rates, and I I don't know that that's as big of a burdens that number might show for more on this. Let's bring in Larry McDonald, the founder of the bear traps report and a CNBC contributor. So the market. Rumors swirling, we thought this would be the perfect time to play a little factor fiction. That's. Hi, larry. Is here. I'm going to explain the rules, even that's very straightforward game. Larry will tell us if it is fact or fiction ready. We will play this game now. All right. First up a corporate debt crisis is coming. Larry's as fact or fiction fact, but the fed with a little softening can put it off for another six months. But fact, we're in the throes of one now. So what are you saying we in? Why do you say that we were in the throes of one right now in in? What does that pretend in terms of the market? Well, you're starting to see for the first time in a long time deals get hung on the loan level. So leveraged loans, which that's typically the highest part of the capital structure. You shouldn't see feels getting hung, and I've talked to a couple of bankers in the last week. So you're getting hung deals there. That's reminiscent of vote two thousand seven but the supply of loans and the amount of deals is nowhere near that level. So I don't want to say it's like two thousand seven right? That's your first morning sun. And then the price discovery an investment grade bonds that price discovery. Relative to loans is spectacular. Other words, we're seeing real price discovery and investment grade bonds. But the loans haven't really marked down as much yet. So that means you're in the probably the first second innings of a big problem. You just said we're we are in the throes in the throes of what investment grade credit crisis a credit crisis investment grade lake here looking at real carnage, especially Europe today. Barclays European banks global from a global perspective, we're not at two thousand seven levels. But we're in the throws the worst credit crisis. We've had since two thousand eleven do you think this is liquidating in other words there one in the same often liquidity dries up as credit deteriorates? But I mean, you know, I realized that talion blondes bonded blowing out. I realize that there's some sovereign issues here and there, but AAA credit is blowing up blowing globally. But once again, you know, the fed what we saw in two thousand fifteen and sixteen they promised this eight rate hikes, they only delivered to and whenever we've seen this type of this is really the beast in the market is trying to break the fed. Over its knee in the past the fed has pushed that policy path a little bit off, and that softened things stabilised about your next statement, which has to at the fed the fed is to blame you mentioned the federal righty factor fiction guy. Don't answer this question. She's looking to Larry. Look at look at guy when I'm having you on. Onset period. Yeah. Period, but Larry factor fix the fed fed any effect, but fed ECB Japan banks banks in general, you just kept interest rates too low for too long, people have reached reached reached into vestment grade bonds deals were done that should have been done. And now we have a twenty five percent move lower and oil in five weeks. And all of a sudden, it's it's real selling last year are given safe factor fiction. They're in certain sectors. Consumer staples. We love the Staples here. They're safe in the energy space. You're seeing real selling on the equities because the dividends are not safe. But this is spectacular because think about it. You've got all this money in terms of passive estimated on the equity side that everybody's been talking about trillion bucks coming out of fangs. And then investment grade bonds investment grade on the triple b so that triple b bucket is two point five trillion two point five trillion of triple B's. The high yield market is a whole is only one point four. Trillion. So that's a massive crossover. So that means that the dividends and the SNP because of all that leverage are not as safe as they were in previous cycles. So you're I think you could have a ten while probably twenty to thirty percent bounce from here in the Staples. As people really look for those safest dividends within the SNP or the safe dividends. When you look at technology, though, does that count us safe dividend. When you look at the balance sheet, they've got virtually in many cases, no debt all this cash. So they're pretty safe. Wouldn't you say as well or no well there are some dividends payers Microsoft's soft until those are those are pretty safe dividends. But I I just think that if you look at nine hundred ninety nine two thousand that move when that rotation out of tech, you're talking about a trillion bucks. It has to go somewhere. It's going to move into value to Staples. And in one thousand nine hundred thousand Staples are up thirty percent in six months. Larry, thank you. Larry McDonald expert trapped support in CNBC contributor. I was talking to Peter book for another. NBC today book the book, and here's saying that forty percent. A forty percent of Russell two thousand debt is floating is floating rate debt, which means obviously that the rates get right? Every single time the fed raises interest rates RIA, and it's just gonna float along with the markets. That's kind of a lot of exposure, the I w underperforming show again, you know, high yield small-cap, these are the things most exposed the credit crisis. Yeah. I would just make one point, you know, Larry just blade said, the fed will be responsible when we get to this next point. Same thing happened in the late nineties. Same thing happen to lead up to two thousand seven and when you think about it everybody could put their finger on what the thing was that was gonna make our economy go into recession and subsequently have the s&p five hundred dropped fifty percent in each time. Larry's putting his finger on it right now. The problem you had back then is eventuality engaging that right? No one could actually figure out we've learned. Investors though, I mean. The fed cat. The band for buying something. You're. Debt that was too expensive Tim, but what we're saying it's going to low for too long in each of those instances, the fed was able to get fed funds that to six percent in two thousand and five percent two thousand seven they can't even get above two percent right now without causing a spasm in the market would like to see three x fund. So we can go back down to one and a half. That's where we are still add payments. Stocks getting pummeled as the tech sector continues to rollover traders are betting on an even bigger sell off or one of those names. We'll tell you what that is. Plus, let's check out our Kramer camp tonight on mad. Jim is doing a deep dive on what don't take to get the market back on its feet catch that at the top of the hour relies the NASDAQ in times where much more fast money right after this. Welcome back to pass money. Bitcoin getting a beatdown today falling below five thousand for the first time in more than a year down another three hundred bucks in the past hour after months of relatively quiet trading. The cryptocurrency taking a turn for the worst now down twenty five percent in just the past week now down more than sixty two percent on the year. So can anything save the cryptocurrency is there more pain ahead Pete? I my answer would be more pain ahead. I think this is a place that people were using a speculation. And now all of the sudden speculation money is going other places. And the problem for them is it might be in the cannabis space. But obviously we're seeing that comeback down as well. So those are similar dollars in my opinion. So because of that, I don't think we're going to see the money and bitcoin that everybody's looking for. I don't know where how much further goes. But I think it goes much further from here. This is the first time bitcoin is really seen a bear market in the broader asset classes, I realized we've had pulled back, but you can right. We're talking about this all night. All we're below the two hundred day we'd been below the two hundred day where are you going to go after you're gonna go after patients Adenola? Acquitted? He just doesn't trade. What anybody says it's the most liquid name out there. There's no quality out there in this name in a market like this. And it's going to get worse. Yeah. I would just say this. The most frustrating thing about the price action over the last few months is that one of the big bulk aces was was a store of value in here. We are we've had this very volatile equity market here in the US, but we've also seen Asia Equity markets and a lot of other assets, very volatile in two thousand eighteen and it really hasn't started whole heck of a lot of value, especially if you were pegging it to six thousand for five months, you know, throughout the year. Well, it just broke in a big way. So that's a little disappointing. I think for bitcoin last week fun strat lowered its year end price target on bitcoin. Tom Lee to fifteen thousand from twenty-five thousand drop in a month and a half. So speaking the payment space shares a square getting slammed today falling below two hundred eighty moving average hitting its lowest level since July facet the office market into a frenzy. So what you see Dan today is interesting idyllic today when you see the stock clothes on it's dead lows down eleven percent or so. So, but it was actually really call volume that was one and a half times of put and actually nine of the most ten active strikes were a lot of calls that when I kinda thing I saw there were a lot of people closing out of some bets that were above the market. And they're saying there's a very low probability of those calls being in the money in the next few weeks. But there was one trade that kind of caught my eye was the second most active strike on the day. And it looked like there was an accumulation of the January fifty puts about thirty five hundred traded for about a buck sixty in small lots that is not just somebody going out and making a bad down there. But it's just kind of interesting to get a sense for levels with us some interest on in some protection. And here's a chart since it's two thousand fifteen IPO. Obviously this thing was a moon shot straight up at topped out at about one hundred bucks. Look at that line. That's fifty bucks that seems like maybe, you know, a an important technical level that some holders of the stock. They want protection below who knows? Well, we're off this Friday that would be the day after day two days after. Hump day. But for washes action chaser, the check out the next bull show and that'll be next Friday five PM eastern time up next final trade. Welcome back to bass guy, dummy listen to when he stuck in the car for like, eight hours now in New Jersey for six hours so Dion because all buying. Bye. Valero pitch seventy percent more than. It was horrible. Yeah. So upset me. It's a Braxton. Got it Pete. Pete like just name. I think this needs ready to bounce off this eighty level ten Coca Cola. I think he got his completely wrong on this one. It's a new company the franchising has done. They're actually growing profits breaking out. It's trading at twenty three times. And it just rallied ten percent straight line. That would on now. Salim dion. A shock the land. 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How many miles do you think it is saying my body physically and it's mostly walked at some running but on mount a given day. How how much do you think of actually moving my body during this five miles and I set you up to challenge you to give me a high number? I'm going to read you today. I did seven thousand five hundred ninety nine steps which is a remind us nine point four nine per formality. Just look at the activity at a a UGO activity. And he swiped the left See Mine it's taken me five weren't have use this Watch wait a second seventeen miles. No seventeen thousand of steps Allow I do challenge more than you're more than me today. If I invite you to challenge I can see. Here's here's my downfall. I'll go from. I run in the morning. And then that's the extent of my activity. Basically sit in the basement for the rest of the day so I get zero so I ran for miles today outside of that. I only got in an extra four miles which is pathetic. That's not enough. I read four and a half. I will see your four miles. I actually read four and a half most with that. I also did went for another shoe walk in the day and my house has stairs so he lost Yesterday I only got in four miles. Oh my God. This is really do challenge with you. How do we do that? I can't I would my context trying to find you and then we'll figure it out will figure it out off line at somebody uses apple watches. It's really been a not a good experience making certain I I actually do realize in the last six months time in your life where you know things change. We started old. I definitely feel like I am getting older from it. I don't like new technology anymore. I got it drives me crazy. The other thing is I think because I understand screen time now my screen time so Mike. Yeah I am wearing reading glasses at progressively last months. My is my my. My eyesight has gone to shit and it's primarily because I'm unable all Aldana as you know what I just got. I don't know I'm waiting for them to arrive. The Felix Gray of blue light canceling. Because I been getting like headaches like my eyes their strained because I'm just on the laptop all the time. What IS I? Don't know what you're what is the Felix Gray. Who Do you put his? You put on your laptop screen. Another glasses glasses. Do you know I'm getting. I'm with you on the headaches. It's it's it's so but my idea like I've been I've surviving but I have to be honest with our fans. There are times have now more critically looked at myself and gone. You know. Sometimes I did this podcast cycle. It was great and then last month and a half happened. And they're like I think. Sometimes I've turned into the worst data and I agree with that. Rests their time failing? Don't Care Network over homework today. I don't know go to kindergarten again. The kindergarten next year I I can't And then like. We're all against not having the kids onscreen time and now all people want to do so am I. I don't understand how we're supposed to and then I get my laptop and so it's it's impossible to not be hypocritical. During this time it is. We were living in A. It's almost to a politics but in trump's world where it is sort of like everything's everything's hypocrisy like we are everything. We're living in like a double edged sword won't yeah we're all good. Yeah and it's funny because like we're telling the kids okay. You gotta do your class. You gotta do your less money. I've had and then an hour later. They're like I WANNA watch Watch Youtube on the I two. And you're like you can't use your. It's but in their mind they're like you just forced me to use my added when you're talking about. I can't use the IPAD. It is insane. I mean I can't even get it. I really in my own universe of fake news. Oh we may have a second appearance of issues walking. Catch -joyed say. Hi The packets as when I can you hear her Danny a little bit over here for posted to youtube exclusive. Use of what would you like to so nobody a C. anymore? What would you like to say? Everybody in the jets were Audience closer to anyone. Says it is not true. We already knew that most of what I say about her is that my wife is so loving and caring and the greatest mother of two daughters. I did see your mom. I the killer debt and that is the whole point of this podcast that we are not dogging our wives. We are just giving us the credit that the universe in the world will not give us. I feel like this go around. Bob's got I think this go around and we're saying that we're not that good. Well this word I I've got to help with the quarantine with the quarantine you know. Gordon has gotten us all the gorge in Israel released failing but I am trying to judge myself my promise. Sometimes they think like I'm like there are times like God I don't want like I don't know I don't want to talk to you. Know I don't want to jump a trampoline and use guy at my knees are bad or ignore to build a Lego right now. My my my interest building. Lego is actually zero UBAD. Senol week off actually liked them. Legos how about this we we? We've been doing like Actually we haven't been doing too. Many puzzles we did. One puzzle was about this. It was the Disney one thousand pieces and Mary. Jane just knocked it off the table the other day like I can't get back in the mindset to do this fucking puzzle in mind. It was done closely never to be done again. Now we gotta do it. All over. D- was in cable computer complete with that. How is sitting there to probably like at least two three weeks so ours we did? A puzzle was ever two three weeks in evidence folded up the way. We had no more new puzzles to do so. We own one and I've never ever. I don't think you ever Redo a plus I the puzzle is that you do once he ate. I don't so we did one at Christmas time Maybe a little before Christmas time and it was a Christmas themed Disney one. We did it on a poster board and I bought this puzzle. Glue put the glue on it so it all sticks together and we're GONNA do the same thing with this one now. What'S THE END game? I don't know. Are we going to frame all these puzzles again? Not Shots but I. We don't have the wall space for it over twelve ninety nine. I think a puzzle is an you by you once. And then you pay voted. You never be there to a puzzle. So what do you mean? You undid the puzzle like through an out. No we just put in a box in closet and then we'll probably throw it out or give you you undid it. We didn't put in a box. Poway own man. A stupid never gonNA do to get like opposite of doing the puzzle but will I. A in my basement table. I think we're GONNA have to frame it. I think we're going to have to frame it with your walls. I don't you want you. Wouldn't you rather than teachers? Kids know in the basement. I think the basement will make our puzzle area. Then you gotta committing little puzzles that we do wants a commitment in the Duda or we'll just or we'll just have a shitload of framed puzzles in the attic. See My is what I see. This is the hypocrisy of being a parent. I am against doing puzzles twice. However for young children all they want you to do is give them a little puzzles redoing. Enduring redoing doing Because it's muscle memory but if you get to the life of a puzzle I want to puzzle is more than one hundred pieces and it's not a giant puzzle June anymore. Also are puzzles tend to miss pieces so the last one we did which is a thousand Disney Puzzles we re missing three pieces and took four five days to and then we had a big disagreement. Overdoing that like a kid sal The images separated by colors but Yeah we tried having the kids help. It's like we do the puzzles more for like Mary. Jane I like we basically tell the kids to stay away like Mommy Daddy. The puzzles go watch Mickey Mouse Janney. You just recently had a was your kid's birthday last week. It was Brady's birthday on Monday. What what what. What a cordes innovation did you him really do any innovation so he did Turned the Big Five. We decorated the hell out of the house Like I blew up forty five balloons a mary. Jane got like a bunch of helium balloon. So they're balloons in the air. They're balloons on the floor. He wanted an Ironman ironman theme so she got all this stuff from party city or Amazon. I don't even know where she got. I think she had a lot of stuff. Before the quarantine Make cupcakes got him in Ironman. Ice Cream cake Presence obviously and then we did. I just like the the drive-by stuff right. So we had we had my family and then her side of the family come in waves so that we could like so that he could appreciate everyone. Everyone could appreciate him dates. Either paused have yeah. They stayed a little bit. We hung out outside the cars. Eight are cupcakes off really slow parade. Yeah trying to think what else yet because we just. We tried to make it like a special as possible. We were like what do you want to do? So he wanted a pillow fight. We had a pillow fight. You on Django Play Jenga. Because he wanted to see like he wanted to see everyone you know so like and that was all surprised like he didn't know any of that was happening. It's what about what are they. Were felled we felt bad. Because because cody is birthday is March so he got his party the weekend before the world ended so like he got the party and then Brady didn't get a party so negatively ever go Africa some now dramatically. Never go back to the board as kids tell stories about you. Remember the days people at. Your birthdays. Come Your House together. That's crazy. It's always a drive by. What do you need to nuts? Where the process now of planning it? So I've been spending some time on vistaprint and my wife's birthdays next Wednesday. The kid's birthday Tuesday she's twentieth. I'm nineteen oh you. Are you think I know this got another birthday plan here? Tell Jay I'll send her an email will plan a no no party while do something I told her I was like are actually thinking. How many gifts while you ever said zero and how keeping it that way a plan I keep an amorous starting one of the crash sweeps of what you're saying you're a you're birthdays lady. Yes so and I was like because Brady's birthday was so hectic doing because it was a Monday was a workday Like I basically got. I barely got any work done because I kept like running up trying to be there. I don't I can't have that happen for my birthday. I don't want people just randomly on by and like me feeling obligated to see them like I just want because then it screw league. That's why the best one that get screwed up because one day was essentially like me not doing anything and I'm just trying to play up from one day and I don't want that to happen next week also so I was like maybe we just like go to L. B. for the day. The wife is up like let's just go there outside on the porch as long as I'm Janice signal like do all my work. There just joined the day on. Where'd you on seeking meetings are taking off on Wednesday planning on? What would you do the next me to strive for hours said get out of the house? Wednesday's let me tell you in Mommy or doing night. You don't know where we're talk or watch all right Chinese but then at nine Saturday knows going to say on Saturday. Before Mother's Day we did like our mother's Day delivery is like we. We got like donuts and stuff like that. Like donut bouquets. We it took US probably three and a half four hours to just get to everyone and we were like that was so nice just like being out. Even though in the car the whole time driving l. The it was just so nice basically foreign to us the only no no I. I read the where he can solace. We were taking solace on a little knows where we're doing five thirty happy hour on our front worn for our neighborhood. Nice nor is our House. Mommy's birth and then we're going to do a series of zoo. I'm surprised my wife can't hear me although this will be closely. But she doesn't listen to so anybody who's listening they'll tell I'm going to zero zoom a happy hours later that might with the different groups of friends like our family yes for family or New York City girlfriends that are California to win so joining live a couple of surprises my big thing that I'm going to begin. She's going to modest. I printed the giant two and a half foot but sign for my front yard and announces. Happy it's fabulous and forty announcing her age. She's GonNa kill you. That has a giant photo of her on it and then it says I printed her entire legal name. He's original Should have her social folsom so I just she's GonNa she's GonNa Loses it and I'm currently playing days of what I'm GonNa do for that. They're planning father's day father's weakness year. Jude's you get on it. It has the tech in the second Sunday June or the third second or third Sunday in June. Six now has to be a lot sometime. We WanNa look at it right now. I believe. Could it be June twenty-first? Yes yeah it is. June twenty-first Sunday June. If anybody's listening if you ever been a father's e event there was seven. The nightly is the night before the Guy Medical data to summit. And they're trying to start data dance the night before. Father's Day for fathers to get together. Hang out and commiserate. I guess a reason for DADS to drink the other forefathers Davidenko tomorrow until fathers each. It's not freshness cachet. Well it is Chris. Dad's because we we did a lot of work. Getting your are wet through work. Isn't it funny like like Father's Day mother's Day like the main request is to be left alone to to not actually celebrate? What people are celebrating? Took I appreciate? I've said this entire experiences made. You should let the amount of time with my family and I feel like it is time that were never had like afford so. There's so many good things about it. I just wish was better circumstances and that there were ongoing stress like it just almost like it's not it's a combination of. I enjoy from home but if it was in normal circumstances without dislike the world's art og will be a little bit better on the kids were announced ago of one. In 'cause I watch to go to the Amami does not going to the grocery store for believes this guy. Don't expect either as a staple too long I'm going to challenge that you guys said the money on traction metal letters is the resume Bala will I will venture to stop a job is likely Gormley. Do go by our own. I go to target as to do the delivery. We do the delivery. We don't have pot. Oh people will do balloons. None of peapod they for local stored up and shop. I don't know if they've never done just a balloon order. I guess try. Why not saying both will get peapod. I do groceries because I don't want somebody else picking Using LETTUCE WE'RE GONNA pick in the crappiest less a pretty good pretty good fruit and vegetables. I got scared. I am like a Marvel Superhero iron. Man I'm not Sirak overnight seed I have my. I have a handmade mask. I made my own ass lobby list. So here's here's the thing for us like we were doing home delivery groceries before before it was a thing it's just so convenient like will will sit at on like a Saturday night Sunday night. Like what we're watching TV and be like so. Tell me all the things that we need. I'll be like peanut butter. Yup got it and would literally go through the list will order it and then it'll be on Tuesday a semi now. Obviously it takes like two or three weeks but basically it was like the next day you can have it and then you can just repeat every month or every two weeks you could just repeat the order. It's phenomenal those Sweden. We we are right now. We will have custody stories instagram deliveries. I go to target this target. We now have nine bottles with cream in the house because number four different places. So it's run out stub whereas have pasta now. We're one one one. Consider boss left now. twenty-five bike never know what we're robots English. You it you have this The robot with yet you deliver it to your door our would be putting people that'd be you'd be on employing a lot of people but a lot of people out on the streets. He left somebody in India or China has the bill that road unfortunately the same people that used to stock. The shelves won't be building that robot. It is an interesting concept like. Why can't I go to grocery store data at the end of the island? Say Can I get this? This this like super like Big Ben Michigan USA since everything we watch that it'd be a vending machine in the workers is in there and then they would come to you. We'll daddy things it's called. Tell you what those were. Rosaries would cost a hell of a lot more than I know what the promise date yet. Your box to serial would jump up to ten ten bucks but that that is sort of the I mean the point is I might widen the grocery store. That's all on the happen delivered but a drawn oil. There hasn't been a interesting Crisis Danny what. I watched the news. I haven't feel I've seen a lot of dad means like I didn't like have you seen a lot of news outside of covert updates. I'm try to watch a lot of news because it gets DNA. And I mean it's honestly the only news I see is cove in nineteen updates or Joe Biden. Joe Biden somewhere miscuing. He's there is one one. I have to get this guy. Josh friends on the pockets. He has for some reason postings. Really good for only two. And they're all about like their dads that I actually think down harder to user guys literally bill like Disneyland where backyard but eh overload But one guy posted it he posted video and some guy go again. Minnie's track ski-lift that his backyard. Where the kids who like you would pull them up a rope. And then they would go down will slide on their sees this amazing stuff. I could attend up by Bagheri. I put a up of how it was so horrible to to a hand up do a lot of landscaping around the yard. A lot of shopping would not. That's about as handy as I get like. I opened up the pool and My project for this weekend is going to be to kill all the weeds and spot treat all the patches that need grass. Oh that's going to be on his a plan a weed is although they are annoying to see them is actually the natural of habitation of area so like a weed is technically would naturally growing on like a one or wherever. You are so hard to kill them because it inherently is yet. 'cause they're supposed to be there. Yeah but did you put your? I can't I haven't seen photos of this thing and I believe put a pool in your last year. Yeah it's an it's an above ground Maybe post a photo. Sexy photo needed photo. I to remind remind me tomorrow. I'll take a picture in the in the sunlight. I've been in the kitchen and I have to clean clean the pool. That's the other thing I have to do cleaning vacuuming. Yeah Oh and I have to treat the deck. Those are the those are projects going Pays Ours Yeah? Well 'cause we got. We got the deck installed last year. So you have to wait a full year. Which were you treat it because you have to let it set. Why got that hot last signs buckets? I talked about all my kids. And how is it down like plug in the hot tub is not working the GOP? Cable that wet. The company has ignobly working there because Kobe teams. Every time I call on anybody right now. Headlines played what's up it's not working to Simpson into a cool. Okay no I I don't. I'm not happy about your troubles at one. At the end of the day I said it was an investment if it didn't last in last but the promises it's just the machine it's the plug. Everything is fine. I just can't get the gyp kid. I gotTA keep calling. Every time I called his company grow in California. Call here. There's nobody working. What does that even mean? The P cable is it. I don't know if it's again cable. That goes to like the bubble and it like star. Tevi this cable those special plugs outside of Your House that if they get wet it has like a fused within the so it has a tester either called Gmc switch at the outside of your house. The actual plug for the hot tub has own like fused thing in it so can turn on and turn off so it was problems and now I just can't get Union outside and to sort of naturally dry most of the time because moist and I googled his hot tub. Apparently this is a common problem so there's there's there's videos like Atta yourself. Hackett I am not I the first issue I did I did. I'M GONNA post photos of the jets so I have a is a big DIY. I'm actually I've been very handy of this court. We had A. We had a like a literally a four person Jacuzzi Tub in our master bedroom. Very Old. Very district of actually had eight jets. That's all an intake. `Bout a couple years ago. Though the last time we used it we were leading the water. Go out and I heard my wife. Screaming doesn't come downstairs and water streaming out of one of our kitchen cats and so what happened was goulding. They said sometimes the bat the in in the on the other side of Jacuzzi. Todd where the the Tube said the thing if it's not used very often they dry up and then the cracks at crazy ratty well the problem. This TUB is tiled into the wall. So there is no way to repair. We haven't been able to use it as top and over time dove anybody's Jacuzzi. You're listening Their wet and so mold and mildew bills fight a real. That allergy season couldn't figure out why one day dawned on me. Why is it every time I go into a really nice hot shower? I don't feel better afterwards and I don't even WanNa see my own bedroom getting a better night's sleep with another. Do I sit media bold in my Jacuzzi jets. You get it out. Well what I did was. I googled at took me actually. And this is the thing about grueling. You have to really know right language. I was looking for. Yeah Exit. What you do is you google converting a Jacuzzi Tub to a soaking sir. So what I did and I've got a great. Diy video where plug them all? Well it is. There's no wheel covers the by so I had to buy these set that you use for like if you ever have a doorknob again. What you're up volume yup wildest and then. I had to a super glue them onto the Jacuzzi jet cover and then I had sue of what stealing seal it caulk wireless Mar. I told them t's one was the one that looked better. Why one that work is a used one that works better than one. That looks better so it works better than it looks really so I clocks one was almond color was white when we use the base of the first that I covered it with white but caulking use videos. Have you ever caught? Some make seem so easy. It's hard and it gets everywhere so it doesn't look. Yeah and I don't think I now and people like you and I do it. It's it's to be functional. Works this tug nobis. Eventually the bathroom has to be Redone. Anyway of the back. I'm breathing better completely problem and you can use it now. The kids are back to using the top. And it's a big tubs. You can relax it. I've not used. I am honest as you get a Said no you. We'RE GONNA. I ahead hair what I don't like is what what my Tabasco for Lennon did. Mommy you did to the back of my head before we four weekend in the the grossness dunlavey bathroom where we at. I'm assuming were over over. Door was that day. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA close this I think. Will we make money wise? Lots of really bad. Not I'm but I'm going to turn around. You have to see with Beckman off. Are you kidding me? Wow Marl Mo my God back right Charlie found so actually got public when I go running like this and I forget my hair in the background giant. I don't think it'll grow Robak Sasso that really be bad. It'll be a week. I can't hear games so it will be finding a week at the back of my head and resume medium. Honest face exactly. Maybe Danny I see. I've decided to let mine go. I'm going to let go until I get annoyed with and I had a mustache for a day and a mustache trouser. No not why. I WanNa let my beard go long enough that when I do a mustache. It's a legit like nineteen seventy five miles and see that like like it'd be like this like like if I do it right now. It just looks like it'll look like a pedophile mustache. See Daddy on it. So it's like this are wanted to cut it so it's at least like less like when Bruce Yeah. I have a good one movie. I might do a goatee. I actually thought I do to look at all. I think I could. I could pull off a goatee. You it will vary with daddy without your young hip. I think he's right now very non nineteen ninety-two. Ninety s early nineties releasing Fox's delivery sites. Yeah that that's fashion. What my reappeared in all camel guys? We're back it's been a while. Janai are committed doing this again. We may have are. The last subsoil happens to Happy Hour. So make that again. Yeah it's just that were a women the same way you as a living out there. And it's our enroll doing our best. Hopefully you found something in this too We went on a walk and listen to us and we kept to company and surviving Jillian. Maybe we put you to bed. Maybe woke up the mill night. You need to put you right back to bed or soothing. Voices denies always. Have Lots of things worse? Daddy should do you know. Nfl You say maybe we should anybody's listening your privacy Bosisio. Emily's five guests kids hard. Getting of you honest. You haven't checked it out yet. I haven't now one episode. I haven't really for your kid I will. I will check it out. I will check it out for you with your children. So please anybody. You're on your fee. Emily Week another one really actually fast sets kids thing but please keep a keep recovering this is. It is a Wednesday night on up on a month there. We go agree weather coming our way this weekend. I'm excited. Well we are. That's a hard year beside.

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Caso studio: La strategia di lancio di Chiara Ferragni e Lancme

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Caso studio: La strategia di lancio di Chiara Ferragni e Lancme

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182. The Greatest Directors - The Final Cut

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182. The Greatest Directors - The Final Cut

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The Powerful and The Damned

Slate Money

54:39 min | 2 months ago

The Powerful and The Damned

"Hello and welcome to the powerful and the damned episode of slate money or guide to the business and finance news of the week. I'm felix of axios. I'm here with emily peck of post. Hello i'm here with atman. Ski of breaking views. Hello and we are here. With lionel baba the forum editor of the financial times lionel. Welcome you have a new book out. Is it us all about it. Hello felix good to be with this distinguished. Group book is private. Diaries of my time as editor two thousand and five twenty and it's up close and personal with people are in politics business and finance from silicon valley through to beijing via moscow putin and some british politicians like david cameron one of the biggest failures of the twenty first century. One thing we can definitely agree on a slate money as david cameron was terrible. We are gonna talk a little bit about him and other powerful man and the occasional powerful women. We're gonna talk about the media and whether it's important for news organizations to make a profit going to have a whole slate plus segment about nick clegg. Who is a politician and facebook spin-doctor. We are going to drop some news about hanash and ski. This is coming up at the end of the episode. Stay tuned jampacked episode coming up on slate money. Slave money is sponsored this week by mail. Chimp which is an all. In one marketing platform they sell you. And they sell your products and their platform and their marketing. Smarts can help you bring your ideas forward with more tools than ever to keep you in your group if you are selling and anything thing than the male chimps smarts have been designed to improve your marketing and lead to better business results so more stuff today with the power of male chimps smarts on the all in one marketing platform and stay tuned later in the episode to hear. Just what these tools can do for you. This book was really interesting to read as the fund notes of a journalist close to the of power in so many different ways over such a long period. And you got to meet with so many powerful people. Most of them seem like they were men. And you have these really close relationships. It seemed like with some of them. I was kind of curious how you thought about navigating those relationships as journalists on the one hand you want to be close to these very powerful men have central banks david cameron on the other hand. You want to hold them to account in the pages of the f. Every day so i wondered if you could talk a little bit about how you try to navigate that tight rope. Who's always a bit of a devil's bargain in dealing with sources especially when they're socio in power and you're right that there are a lot of them were men but there was some very significant women not least angle myrtle of germany who. I interviewed three times in my time as editor. But this holy bargain this devil's bog on referring to really is the trade off between access and capture. And i think my view was always put the reader. I you're not friends with these people but having a chance to go up and personal without often any handlers involved gives you a unique insight so then what you do is zoom in. I did use that. Would zoom sorry but used zoom in and then you zoom out and then when you write about it you don't insist that every word stays you show it to at least two other people and i think that then that then begins to work. It's very important though to to see this as a journalist exercise and i was the editor reporter. It was a self conscious role. So i wanna ask you about that line. Because i think a lot of americans don't really understand how closely intertwined these two worlds of media and politics in uk and the us they really ever except for you have a large number of journalists in the large number of bulletins and you very rarely find people going back and forth between the two and while there are certainly some friendships in washington. You don't have like this scene in your book where you're hanging out with jonathan ford. Who's your chief leader writer. Who used to be my boss. And who is talking about whether he's going to support david cameron and his photograph of him and david cameron and boris johnson. You know college together. We'll being best friends in that kind of thing so when you say you're not friends with these people like there's an asterisk there right. I'm not sure there is probably the only person that i felt a real affinity to say this in the book is mario draghi. Who is the president of the european central bank. He's become italian peon. And i did respect him enormously. I thought he was doing a really a historic role and he helped not quite single safe. The euro would if you look at other people interviewed. And i think it's very important. This is a global book. I mean britain plays i thirty five percent. Maybe forty percent content in the whole boat ballot wise. You know i'm in china. I'm in america in latin america and africa with kagami. I mean russia with putin. And i can show you taught them all up or indeed. You ask any of my colleagues. You know what. I'm not friends with these people. I'm really not. And i'm understanding that there is a certain tension in the role that you have. If you will spending time we close proximity but in the end your journalist and the readers comes. I and i abide by that principle. In fourteen years of editorship one question i have is how having all of these sources that are obviously very very very well positioned could also maybe potentially influence. How not just you. but anyone. At the f. t. kind of sees sees the world and i think about this a little bit in terms of the lead up to the financial crisis. Because it's something you definitely cover in the book. And i'm just kind of curious if you think that because of who everyone at the f. t. is kind of who've there around that affect how they saw that period in the lead up now. I think i'll come to this financial crisis. Its but just to make clear. I think the biggest mistake or kind of what you're talking about a if you like slightly peripheral vision or you're not getting. The big picture is if you so close to central bankers you look at. The world is saving the financial system. And you're on their side but then you're not paying sufficient attention to the unintended consequences like asset inflation. And i would say that was an area where your argument i think to a degree i'll up. And if you have people martin wolf who are brilliant mercurial central bankers view of the world and i'm close to druggy and you could say that that kind of influence was was important but in the up to the financial crisis. I don't think it was like. I just think that we'd none of us including the regulators gone the full picture. We got bits of the puzzle and we also we did cover the financial risk and leverage. I mentioned jillian pets. Great work my self-criticism. There would be did a very good job. i could have done it. More prominently given the market side of that story more prominence. What about people. Like steve schwartzman. Who comes up quite a few times in you. Can you say that you had a very important relationship with him. And presumably you talk to him off the record by frequently. The two big sort of seismic events of the post-crisis tenure in your timing is editor. Well obviously brexit and trump. And what i got from reading. The book is a lot of talk which was relatively chummy with steve. Schwartzman who's a huge trump supporter. A lot of talk. Which was relatively chummy with dave cameron who caused brexit and i was wondering to what degree is the sort of f. t. source growth of these lay powerful men who gravitate to the right. To what degree did they. Give the t. A blind spot when it came to these populist tendencies. Well i'm not chummy. With cameron and in fact i'm highly critical of canada and i didn't go to eaton and election now. He supported a party. We didn't support cameron. And i have a very low opinion of cameron. And if you got the powerful in the damned is a book definitely damned thing. He did more damage with the decision to call a referendum than anybody but we supported his party because number one. We didn't want jeremy corbyn and he's hard left extremism a number two. We were in favor of the coalition a lib. Dem conservative coalition. Now you mentioned steve schwartzman. Yes i used him as a source. I talked to him but also told him to fuck off in dabbles so i couldn't have been that chummy and that's in the book. I love that you'd like sitting at one of those didn't mention it. Well no but that's when you tell someone off you can only feel that you can really tell them to go reasonably close the way you don't know how many times i told people to focus on the phone when i was editor anyway. I think you make a mistake. I was too close to these people. I think it's important. It's never down to you as the editor. When i was receiving information i was shed it with colleagues to see what they thought and i never instructed people to put stuff on the front page based on what i knew because there was an iron rule to sources for every story one of the other guys could very critical of in. The book is mark zuckerberg. There are a lot of. Ceo's in this book and so moving maybe away from the politicians in unto the ceo's. I'll this week. We saw jeff bass kick himself upstairs to this kind of unaccountable executive chairman role as of power now in bedded in especially tuxedos people like sundar pichai. And i wrote a piece actually talking. About how ceos are increasingly becoming the fourth branch of government. What's your opinion of like the degree to which. Ceo's are setting the agenda. Is this a good thing and like you know these guys well. Would you trust them with you. Know being able to increasingly be in charge of how the world works. I don't think that the ceo's have set the agenda in quite the same way that you think in the last four years in america. I think that the president was very influential. Could influence the stock. A lot of them were running scared of him. I think there is a concentration of power in certain sectors in certain sectors of the economy particularly tech which is not healthy. And i i would worry about that. As opposed to setting some kind of to gender. I also think that the consequences of the extraordinary monetary policy over the last ten years and the asset inflation has benefited the corporate sector. A great deal. So i take issue as well with the your description of jeff bezos. I don't think he's kicked himself upstairs at all. I think he swapped seats. I think he's going to be running. The strategy of amazon is ever before so to sum up. It's about concentration of corporate power rather than a concentration of power with into the political arena. I noticed as i was reading that you didn't seem to have a particularly high opinion of most tech. Ceos and i'm just curious because you've obviously had long relationship with ceo's and more traditional industries. Do you think that there is a significant difference. And it's like kind of new breed of ceos and what you think that might also mean for the future of capitalism which is also something you speak out frequently well. I didn't write about jeff brazil sending as it happens. I have a very high opinion of a ceo. I think it is quite extraordinary. What created at amazon. I think mark zuckerberg is tone deaf. I think that sundar still relatively tested. I think what i was describing a bit in the book is how certain a people running the tech companies big puck because where they've come from and the silicon valley mindset that curiously. They libertarian mixture of their libertarian. Instincts and tone deafness. They don't quite understand the consequences or the potential negative consequences of what some of the Technological innovation have it sort of innovation per se is good. that's it. they're beginning to understand as we see the reregulation or the the threat of regulation now to attack partly the concentration of power that they're having to be a lot more of this world rather than that virtual world and can you argue that. It's also fairly similar to a number of the banking ceos before the crash like thinking that okay. We're in this new age where we've solved the business cycle. Nothing will ever go wrong. We have all these new advancements in financial products. So i'm just wondering is this really a difference in mindset earth. Just different industry now. I think it slightly different. I genuinely think that banking st with the exception. Probably jamie diamond. And maybe lloyd blankfein the worst so extraordinarily arrogant and huber steak and their attitudes were reinforced by the sort of benign credit conditions. And crucially the way. That regulation was skewed in their favor. And it sort of encouraged leave leverage. I mean it's a bit like she think of a soccer match with all the five year olds crowded around the goal. I mean that's what it was like. And i think they would just lie. Ignorant i think the tech ceos and the leadership a slightly different. There's a soda naive. Not about some of their behavior. They just think they really are doing good. So if you think about facebook and social media man. I think it's genuinely shocking that they didn't wake up earlier to the some of the consequences. What was going on figgins way. Facebook's being used extremist groups yom are etc and. That's one of the reasons they hide. May clegg was to give them a little bit of well to give them a little bit of real world politics seriously. Nick clegg. I mean i think i'm gonna jump in here and say that jamie dimon especially but boy blankfein to were probably among the most arrogant of the banking. Ceo's they just happened to have slightly better positioning smart like maybe. The arrogance is more justified. And they didn't lose lots of money and so that banks survived but they are arrogant. They do especially jamie does feel with some justification that he's competing at the highest level of winning. Where is the tech. Ceos on re competing they all have monopolies. And that i think is the big difference that you know zach. Has this monopoly on social media. Google has its monopoly on search and with that you can feel like you Some sort of virtuous benign dictator. Because it's almost too easy to make money. well again. i disagree with felix because on the banking side the crucial point. Here's what differentiated lloyd. And particularly jamie diamond is they managed risk better. And that's important. I mean maybe they had a little bit to the arrogance about now agreeing with this. But managing risk is pretty damned in the financial services sector and some deep badly dick fold was still betting into sort of well into two thousand seven now where i agree with you and i talked about the concentration of pies these day facto monopolies disagree with this in tech land is a serious problem. I think the way facebook gobbled up. What's that an instagram. I mean it was not challenged by the regulators too. So i agree with you. That that sort of encouraged slightly that mindset. I'd like to think that sundar pichai is a slightly different data. He's not arrogant. I think that the humility is a bit. It's more than skin deep. And he's trying to grapple with these enormous problems and i would. I would agree with that. And i think also like such an de lorette at microsoft is is more humble and is competing well and insane amounts of money doing a good job rather than just collecting monopoly. Rents older. there's no shortage of monopoly. Rents that he has this. Podcast is brought to you by. Td ameritrade investing one-size-fits-all every investor has a unique style. That's why td ameritrade operas two different mobile apps. There's a ameritrade mobile which lets you manage your portfolio's with streamlined. Simplicity or think are swim. Which gives you the tools you need for. More advanced trades and in-depth analysis visit td ameritrade dot com slash apps to find the one. That's right for you once again. That's td ameritrade dot com slash apps. 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Let's talk about digital journalism. You reckon that you turn the fda into a digital newspaper yourself good marks so that one. While i don't want to sound too modest or humble if felix was a team effort. And i had some very good people and i work with the commercial side. They came up with and business model. What i did was figure out the journalism to make that digital transformation happen took some very difficult management decisions to you know we went. The newsroom went through three iterations. It was evolution rate. Some might say we didn't move fast enough could be right on that. We bit slow to develop our data journalism. But we're also at the same time. Remember i said i'm not gonna be editor at the loss-making ft and we didn't lose money. When i was editor. She's not bad so we walked and chew gum at the same time. We preserve the newspaper which was still an important source of revenue but we increasingly became a global subscription business and look we doubled the pang readership to more than a million while i was editor and i talk a bit about in the book about some of the the management techniques that i used the recruitment retention to achieve that one thing i was thinking about the f. t. your paywall is relentless. It's very strong. If donald trump wanted to build a wall should have come to you guys to figure out his wall. It's impossible was steve schwartzman. Who you had the whole fight with over. They're not paying for all their their other accents. So the f. One of their former employees were sharing passwords. So yes which was so. There was a breach. My goodness great in the wall. They tried in the wall into offense. I never identified with a billionaire before. Until i read that passage. I was thinking because it's expensive to get access to the f. T. you have a lot of access to all these powerful people there sources there helping you navigate the biggest stories of the time. It seems like the whole enterprise is skewed to the perspective of the powerful. Sometimes the damned if you disagree but do think that that skews the journalism in a way. Like maybe you would cottoned onto brexit faster if if it was a different kind of publication. Do you know what i mean. I think it's really important. I mean this book is a snapshot of my time. As editor over the fourteen years and i met a lot of powerful people in that time but i also visited and reported from the philadelphia in sao paulo kabira in kenya to beijing. And you know was in kazakhstan. We're gonna take. I mean i did do on the ground reporting. And i think it's true to say to cost the. Fda is some kind of elitist. Publication is totally out of touch with what's going on small investors or whatever. Now i'll come to brexit in a minute but we are at the same time a niche publication. I mean we are premium product where read by people who make decisions and influence decisions in business finance and politics and economics around the world. that's our audience. Yeah but you can't serve that audience. If you're just sitting in the salim's i mean you need to get out. You need to be able to tell people what's the forces that are coming up the resolutions from below if you like there is one example on. I do talk about this in the book that i think we did miss brexit because we took an economically rational view of the world and the british people would vote for that pocket books and they didn't they voted for identity politics and we miss that. But it's important to say that afterwards. We had an inquest. And i made certain decisions with the team to shift the way. We were reporting on britain and to become less metropolitan so in that case in that sense. I think you'll correct. Let me ask you about this thing where you said that you didn't want to be the editor of the loss-making f. T. and put that. In contrast with humble sundar pichai at google who just came out and revealed that he spent five point six billion dollars last year alone and fourteen point six billion dollars over the past three years deliberately making these enormous multibillion dollar losses on google cloud because you know he wants to invest in growth in the standard thing to do in the markets these days and certainly in silicon valley is investing growth invest in growth. And when you're saying you didn't want to be the editor of the loss-making. Ft basically what that means is you didn't want to invest in growth right. You didn't want to have any losses on the way to your to however many now felix with the greatest respect of course is that is a complete distortion kind of a hundred and eighty six. Maybe make it three hundred sixty degree of distortion said. First of all we were owned by a public company. We were subsidiary of piston which was conglomerate. We didn't have a license to lose money. I mean we add to meet budgets. I didn't choose this. We have to meet the budget set by the owners of the company now so we didn't have some chance of being amazon and running up the t. Lost forty million thirty two million pounds in two thousand and three and then it made another loss in two thousand four and it ran up sixty million before to govern. The editor got removed. That's why took over. so guess what. Why didn't wanna lose money. But you're assuming that we didn't invest and i'm going to knock you out of the park in terms of the number when i come up with the number the magic number. It's really important. We we we. The end of the arrested every year in our journalism. So you gotta take that back. That's a complete distortion. I will agree that with three hundred and sixty degrees apart. I think if you will what about now wind up basically pointing in the same direction. Yeah i mean. Honestly when. I said to lose money. It's because we had a budget to meet. And i didn't control that you know. Nobody influenced my words. All the words have colleagues. Anybody works the. Fta let me let me. Just stay on that one. Then when you say you you didn't want to be the editor of loss-making. Fdu was that because you personally didn't want to be losing money you personally didn't think it would grow. Faster would be better if you invested more. Is it because pearson told you that they you had this mandate from pearson and they were like we need Davidenko come hell or high water is your just going to have to run this at a profit and then when you changed ownership and you owned by nick did that pressure change today start thinking well. Maybe what we want is a little bit more. Investment and growth. Don't care so much about the dividend humane didn't invest in the f. T. over the is which they did. I mean i was giving money to invest. I might have like fifty million dollars in two thousand nine of well. I might have liked more money. That's another that that's an argument to have. I might have liked to have invested in. You thought we had money to invest my view. The reason i didn't want to be the editor of the loss-making f. t. was because i thought we were premium brand and i thought if we could grow to be a subscription business. We ought to be able to make some money not a lot of money. You can argue. I don't write this in the book. But i actually said to piss at one point. You know what that's through margin way not gonna make that and it's ridiculous so i'm not going to do that. I just didn't write that in the book. Because i'm diplomatic. We actually should be able as a premium product to make money now. You talk about the japanese. The japanese did take a longer view of investment cycles and the growth that we did have budget. We do have budgets. I don't want to talk about it now. 'cause i've left but i think you could say that they were less short-term than pearson pearson protected the editorial independence might kill appointed felix is one of the reasons i didn't want to be the editor the loss-making f. t. was because i could say fuck you to any commercial people who are trying to tell me what to do because we were making money. We weren't loss-making the moment you're loss-making that's when commercial people can stop pushing you around even if they say they believe in the editorial independence of the f. t. there's a risk there and the factors never happened. I would think the fact that we're having an argument about whether or not a company should make a profit like perhaps speaks to the fact that we are in a very different economic environment than say. The kind of heyday of newspapers and now newspapers are having to compete with industries to a certain extent that frankly don't necessarily have has to make money that can throw a lot more money and i guess that was one thing that kind of jumping out at me as i was reading the book the role of newspapers and the significance of newspapers in this environment. Because you know you talk about whether the f. t. is going to endorse one party or another and there's this part of me that's like does that really matter in the way to know does actually on. I wasn't particularly enthusiastic about that. At all. i think in some ways we could have just stayed out of it. Because i vote. Didn't count you think of nineteen ninety-two two when the f. T. i think mistakenly backed neil kinnock and the labor party in a row. The mealy mouth endorsement. Which i mentioned in the book i was conscious of that. I think he really did matter because readers were offended. They couldn't understand why the f. t. the sort of newspaper. The city did that. I think it mattered a bit in two thousand and ten when we've switched from labour to the conservatives but overall doesn't matter tool is much more important to understand that you know it's not a newspaper news organization is digital. Now it's all about the brand for the f. T. as a paper that writes about business and finance i fell on. I'm still gonna come back on this when you go in and say hello to some ceo on wall street or in silicon valley lionel barber editor of the loss-making f. t. What do you think those people think. You're worth nine hundred million dollars. Whatever nick view when we didn't make very much money but we didn't make we didn't lose money. That's the key felix. You can only lose money if you have a lot of money if you're the editor of a newspaper in the during the decline of newsday history. It's cool to make the money. That is the distinction right. 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Or you're going to the money in the next you the felix raise money if we're not going to invest so that it can make lessons it's it's actually to invest during including keep fighting with the new european. What is what is the new year. The new european was pump newspaper paid in the supermarkets after brexit in two thousand sixteen and it's grown for circulation of just under twenty thousand. It's got a small digital presence. It tons of very small profit. But it's basically it was an anti brexit news sheet and a forty eight pages weekly and now look the war's over brexit has been settled so the new european which appealed very much to that forty eight percent of brits who voted for remain against brexit. What's he gonna do. And i was approached to invest that magic word and held them. And i've decided because i'm very pro-european i think it's a shame about brexit without subtle if i can help and grow this thing a bit then old. Good you still. It seems have some kind of hope and faith in the european project. What chances do you give mayor. Draghi in italy is prime minister. You think he's going to be able to succeed by in light. How should we measure whether he succeeds not as an enormously difficult task because he doesn't come out of the political arena. He my party following it to run a party. So he's essentially being appointed because of his moral authority and his record is a central banker. He's tossed how we measure his success. And i think frankly i don't know whether he lost long them. Maybe eighteen months or something. That's pretty off the coast in italian politics. But it'll be by two things. The first is how he tackles the public health crisis which endures so. Vaccinations you can get a bit of british lock. The way we in britain accelerated on vaccinations. You got the vaccines in got a program out. That will be the first thing so you see the tide of covid infections declining and so the restoration of analogy. That's number one number. Two italy has four hundred billion or so euros to spend under the european union's one point nine trillion also euro relief package which included a very important commitment by the germans unprecedented to grow common barring the financial markets. Mario draghi needs to be able to tap that money in order to do so. Who need to be some economic reforms. Labor market and from whatever pension reform things like that that sort of the conditions for disbursement that money. If he can do sixty or seventy percent of that he will be hero of italy. I would give him evens. Chances by would say hasn't the the the ability of politicians to push through like quote unquote structural reforms. Especially in this era of you know kind of populism in italy in particular because of how fractured it seems like he's going to have a very very large challenge ahead of him. Oh it's huge. It's huge. I spoke to a senior taliban official today. Said he dropping yet another name and he said look in the end. This is the right choice for italy. It might not be the right choice. For mario draghi but we're fortunate that we can call him and he is almost the last cod standing on the deck. He didn't want to do this. I know that he stayed away. He was dreading the cool but in the end. Things have got so serious. The such deadlock. He's taken the challenge. And i wouldn't write him off i. It's really difficult on the ball of expectations needs to be set low true. Maybe doesn't it also say something that the most famous person. The person that everyone is turning to is a central banker. And i guess perhaps that also says about where the global economy is right now or has been for the past. Well i think that's very important because the ellen obviously is treasury secretary dragging now is prime minister This is true that there was talk. About mach connie becoming the leader of the liberal party in canada. Remember that he always had political ambitions. You think that's a new thing that we're going to start seeing central bankers becoming politicians. Now i don't. I think drug is the exception that tests that rule. I think yes mark. Connie was may have been interested but then christa freeland that f. t. Journalists snuck in under the tent flat and of you know she's proving very good so in general. I think it tells you it's what was said earlier. It says something about the moral authority of auditions. That you know the technocrats central bankers are seen as the sort of potential saviors. They're the only ones left that are effective. They're also elected when they're central bankers raises their unelected. But it's also dangerous the way we've become and you know we haven't really talked about this but this is a theme in the book about qe and the power of the central bankers that it's almost that the fiscal policy that's in the bargain has really been downplayed ignored him. We've just got addicted to this easy money and quantitative easing monetary policy to keep everything afloat although that conversation is changing since we can be a little bit topical here the big noise in washington. This week is lowering summonses. Op ed in the washington post. Another central bank attend politician who has been basically on the site of. Don't do too much fiscal policy. One point nine trillion dollars is too much in warning of some vague parade of horrible. He's definitely left the democratic party reservation at this point line. On what's your opinion of larry. Mize brilliant intellectually brent wrote for the f. t. i wouldn't ever challenge him in an economic soggy. I'll tell you that his voice counts still. That's my opinion. He's a platt because of his intellect. So larry summers was an f. T. is i don't know if he's still has an fte columnist but he was one of when you started up the online commentary. He was one of the first. I think you mentioned and then in two thousand eighteen there was this letter to the editor published in the f. t. that you tweeted and the letter was you know the ftc's mostly white guys in there. There just isn't very much diversity and that's bad and all this and you tweeted the letter and said it's time for a revolution and then also in the book you kind of here and there. We alluded to this before. Talked about the alpha male problem. At the fda. An mean in recent years has been metoo in in the us especially. We had this whole racial reckoning this summer in a lot of media outlets are sort of grappling now with race ama- gender and all this stuff when you said it was time for a revolution like what happened. Has there been one of my success. A besides your successor swim off. That's quite important but she didn't get the job because she's a woman right because she's an outstanding manager jonas but it's quite important when he said he got an for male problem. The successor is a woman by the way the other thing is. I made a commitment just around that time of saying revolution that the top leadership of the f. t. would be fifty fifty on gender balance by twenty twenty two and i said we'll do it before that and we have a now. There's actually more emmys. The assistant manages as a women than men. so that has been tackled. And it's being tackled though crucially on merit which is what i believe in when it comes to diversity in general so big word. It's used a lot these days. I don't think that diversity should be the organizing principle in a news organization. That's not the way to go. It is a very important priority. You need to have a diverse set of us around the table. People from different backgrounds. Look at the people from new. Zealand is a shredded to the american managing editor. New york you've got the editor that janine gibson was one of my big highest in the last year came from buzzfeed quite a lot of diversity now. Was there a problem when i began. Yes did i tackle it. Yes so you feel that now. The coverage in the f. t. n. among the communists reflects a diversity in terms of race gender income. All that stuff. You really feel like it's done. No i i don't want to speak about the tea today because its rulers news organization. It's not mine. Um the crucial point is direction. And i set a direction and i put my foot on the accelerator and no we didn't. We're not completely diverse. No will we still limited in certain areas. Yes but did we seriously diverse find gabe. We actually crack the gender gap you bet and did we also show that through coverage on me to where we were. You know very big stories. Broken by the f. t. which i referred to in the book by in terms of zelda perkins breaking our indio with harvey. Weinstein is a personal assistant. Who was abused by him. the president's cloud which is a world scoop on that old male ridiculous club. It was abusing young women that closed down within twenty four hours of us. Pausing the story and then the big software baronet nobody would touch in manchester. United know is going to have to go to trial because of the way he treated women. So you know. We were very robust both in terms of our organization and our coverage. Why did you want to push for diversity. What were the flaws in the journalism that you saw because otherwise you you're looking at the world through a narrow prison and you basically it's a conversation between a small group whereas the best are going to be alive and alert to different points of view and also frankly i mean sitting around and i described this in the book of one point where just manner interrupting time gets pretty damn boring. These really important man i took. I'm not gonna name the women. But i took particular interest in sudden younger people not just women but also who are less fortunate than i been in my career in order to make them believe they could become big stars and they really do things that they hadn't imagined they could and it's an enormous amount of satisfaction. I gained as a manager that some of those people are now in executive positions because of encouraged guided in mental. and i believe in that profoundly. Did you learn that over time through your career. I mean you started out at a time when on talked about that stuff or cared about it at all. What made you start carrying about it. I was lucky that i became editor. When i was fifty. So i've done certain things so you learn a certain humility and most important of all you actually listen. You know when you're younger and hurry and everything and it's all about you. As a reporter. I became a manager and to be a good manager. I did try and learn from other people and i sought advice. And if you look at the three deputies i had as editor and laterally it was ruler. You know i listened and when you do that you actually understand what people are saying how to make things happen to encourage people over. Law is about confidence. Oregon's but confidence in you know bringing people along i think we should have a numbers round lionel. You brought a number and i'm going to. I'm i suspect it's going to be. Fte related from the hints. That you have drop. Is this true you'll number should join mensa. Nine hundred number is five fifty. Because when i took over the i know the the number of journalists was around five fifty and the first thing i did was say. We're gonna cut fifty jobs as part of the reorganization the newsroom making it digital. I and it was painful but we could do that. We made changes then. When i left it was around five eighty five but it also lated between five fifty and five eighty five. So when i left i could say despite all the challenges all the times we were trying to have to compromise but also felix invest. The number of journalists was more if not exactly the same or slightly more when i started and also we had ten percent or more foreign correspondents stuff. So that's why the magic number is five fifty. I don't think many other newsrooms were able to do that. And we didn't have jeff businesses pockets item and we'll feel number. My number is seven. Point five million. That is the number of subscriptions the times reported earnings this week in the same way that you know kind of trump and covid seemed to have helped them a bit in terms of people subscribing which i guess is not overly overly surprising but it will be interesting to see what happens i would say perhaps more maybe more normal political environment. Maybe we can but hope. My number is actually know emily. What's going on. But i worry the organized we're gonna duplicates. So i have to get you out of the way i oh interesting yes let us get me out of the way my number my number thing. We need a little bit more diversity on short. My number is three hundred and fifty dollars. This is the amount of money that one flaming radical senator mitt. Romney would like to send out to children to the parents of children in this country. He floated this proposal this week whereby he would send out payments to parents per child. So it's three fifty per child under age six and i just thought it was interesting because while republicans never wanted to just give anyone money though. That's changed recently with kovic and in the us especially these stimulus. Checks are extremely popular end to i think it shows. There's this new energy behind just giving parents money. Because in the united states especially in this is different from other developed countries having a child often puts people into poverty we have one of the highest rates of poverty in the developed world. Anyway so romney put out this radical proposal and it's not like totally great proposal. He wants to get rid of some other things to make it happen. That would not be great. And it's just one of many. Some democratic senators have a similar kind of thing where they're sending out monthly payments to parents. And it'll be interesting to watch. If any of these come to fruition. We are in a world way. Fiscal policy has fewer constraints on it. Than i can ever remember so i think i'm vaguely optimistic might happen. My number is a hundred and fifty nine billion dollars which is the market capitalization of quiet shoe which is the latest social media. Company just went public in hong kong raised more than five billion dollars at the end of last week. Which you can be forgiven. Not even ever having heard of guangzhou we've bytedance because they owned tiktok. Probably the absolute phenomenon that is chinese social media and the valuations that are being put on it is a story which i think people on paying quite it is easy to miss amidst all of the noise but lionel. You are actually exactly correct. I feel this is a good point to to mention this. When you say that we need a bit more diversity on this hit show. Slate money anna. How are we going to get this diversity so asleep money will be looking for a new co host. Because i'm starting a new job soon and so will no longer be doing the show. My last day will be in a few weeks. This is the worst news. It's been a wonderful few years. And i'm really gonna miss everyone here including the listeners. But i am sure that you guys will find someone amazing and as mentioned this is an opportunity to increase diversity on the show. So yeah this late money folks. I'm still in denial. But if you have any ideas let us know lionel as a manager. Hire of walsum journalists. Do you have any recommendations for who should replace. Management's the on this issue and there is irreplaceable. And i will keep my council on this not least because who knows they might come to the new european. Would you allow a new european employees to be co-hosted slate money or would that be conflict. I'm not the boss. In all humility we will leave that to the buses of the new european lionel. Thanks for coming on this show. It was lively. Thanks to jeff molly for producing thanks to all of you guys listening and we will come back next week on slate money.

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The Passing Shot 2020 End of Season QUIZ - Test your knowledge against Joel & Kim on ATP / WTA Tour trivia, US Open, French Open and all ATP Tour Finals in London!

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The Passing Shot 2020 End of Season QUIZ - Test your knowledge against Joel & Kim on ATP / WTA Tour trivia, US Open, French Open and all ATP Tour Finals in London!

"Hello ladies and gentlemen woke into the passing shot but ten is podcast by fans. I'm joe i'm kim. Today's episode. Welcome to the passing shots. Twenty twenty of season quiz put data isn't gentlemen thank. You came. what better way to end the season than a classic of the posse short schedule. The end of season quizzes his something. I've been very much looking forward to. Although we got to. Caveat obviously we say and of season quiz wait. We love quiz so much. I see we did one. Didn't we in wipe madness in lockdown while we were trying to figure out where all episodes schedule so we just like Let's do a bit season quiz jo. I love quizzing so much. I would happen to a weekly pulsing shot but i feel like that might be a bit intense for our listeners. Don't worry guys that will not be happening but yeah we won't be featuring the first few months of the season because we already couple days i think on all quiz back at the end of april words. But they're still quite this happen. And this certainly enough for us to have fun devising some questions to test each alba but everyone listening along so get your pens and paper at the and get get cracking. Get your thinking brains on and see. How do i didn't see if he can be and joe as well. Yeah we do have an answer sheet that is linked in the description. Of course you can just kind of play along with pen and paper. So the structure for today's quiz is gonna be a classic they're gonna be four sections. Each section has ten questions in the first section is going to be easy difficulty. Atp at tool the second section is going to be beady stroke hough difficulty atp wto. Then we're going to have a third section which is going to be on the front sharon and us open and then the final section is going to be on the atp finals in london over the last twelve Over the last twelve years so those are four sections for the quiz big. Be myself i gotta take. It says ask each other. We've we've kind of split. We split duties halfway came. We genuinely not say each of this questions. In in so pulsing short tradition. Which of course means that we. We could very much very easily. Have the same questions. yeah i be. I would say that we wouldn't have exactly the same question. But if i have a question is slightly cheap piquet to then we'll with the fray. We'll we'll see if we get that. Joe off pass happened for us some different things but yeah i mean shall we get started to begin. Yep yeah i say you begin. I promise handled hall. I'm going to do no googling whatsoever. No googling whatsoever. I also promised you're not to feature any questions about weddings. Because i have to be fake player weddings in the past. But yeah we're wedding. Free this time around. I think okay right. Let's begin first round easy while we say easy. Eight that's overseas objective easy atp slash wti. Okay question number one. What events did nave act. You're vich win this year to become the first male tennis player in history to win each of the masters events twice. Oh yes i do. Think about this because every year. It's it's this one. It's almost like his his bogey monsters event. I think it is the i wanna say. Cincinnati mosses which was held at flushing meadows by cincinatti. Moss's they haven't been as many mosses this year. Of course about impreza saito that you are indeed correct cincinnati he defeated me losch riots in the final but yeah novak has made history all of the master's twice which is quite insane. I think i'm already off too much. Better start them. I have been in any sort of previous quiz that we've done by kate right my question first question she uses to be questioned. What was the name of. Patrick moore trump series of exhibition tennis events. That started in lockdown. Oh that's a good one for some reason my mind wanted to say tie-break tens right. I do they before. The actual tournament is otherwise known as ups. It's the ultimate tennis showdown. I believe that is correct. Yes ultimate tennis showdown. We were a bit skeptical where we're at the beginning. Actually i think it's it's a bit of fun it's a bit on the side isn't it is it. Might very well be featuring later on say. Yeah they've heads out there. Okay great my next question. Joe i was just gonna like waiting for the next question. Evidence main okay. Question number three. What was memorable about victoria. Azarenka victory over severe kenan in the second round of the rim apron. Yes yes. I remember this. This was crazy. Given kennedy went onto d really well at the french open but she got she was obviously a grand slam champion australian open champion and she got double bagel which does not happen very often. Grand slam champions are not that to get double bagel. But i'm pretty sure as a rank did hand her a double bagel six of six correct. She did yeah pretty embarrassing school. Line bob i think it's very fair and in kind of turned around by reaching the french open final couple of weeks later. Say think she made out for that one just a little bit. Yeah definitely arguably almost those the best thing tappita a house. Okay question for from me. Which player won back to back titles in cologne one and cologne to see maybe joe. This season bang so of qatar shorter. I feel like. I'm remembering more than i know me where maybe listeners sevilla. Say but yeah. I think this display. As it's you know. He wanted his Events and was pretty dominant out this particular phase of the season. So i'm going to say it was. Sasha's zverev sasha zverev is correct yes cologne one and to back to back he he did the business i think. Ab ab seemed in. One of the finals are coming to be beaten on the other final. Yet it was it was very of who was on. He was in a pretty rich streak of form. Wasn't he at that point. You just love into hardcore. He does. I think it was diego schwartzman in the other final but i think it was less competitive in that cool okay fabulous rights one hundred percents. Apr joe free. These correct me. But i well say about question number five question number five which abella russian player beat their doubles partner in the final of the wpa lintz event earlier this month. I'm just throwing a better russians out there. That may well. It was and i think she had again had a really good end to the season. I'm pretty sure it was sampling sap. Alankar on yourself blanca. A doubles partner mertens. I think yeah. I k- i if there was a bonus question. Joel i would give it but merchants wasn't necessary but yeah well i'm seeing show up won in straight sets and obviously we talking a couple of episodes go but how they did a nice job in the trade ceremony kind of celebrating together which was really nice. So yeah well dum okay. My next question novak djokovic suffered a surprise straight-sets loss in vienna but who was against great one. Okay this person may very well come up later as well. Yeah this is really surprising. Victory and defeat. I suppose from someone that we date not much or we certainly didn't before this victory but it was. Id believe the kind of up and coming. Italian lorenzo sewn ago he beat new back in vienna. That is correct. Yes sauna guy. Yeah had he just had a really good game and italian this season just been. I've just been very very good as a as a nation and this was a very very surprising result but it was fantastic. Fantastic short your arm and it was Yeah it was just one of the matches of the. It was just one of the matches of the tournament and jock hasn't lost many this season but he does. It seems to be surprising spectacular fashion. Well call beat says the. Us open four spectacular. I say monitoring about one bit right question seven we we move on which nineteen-year-old features star of the men's game clinched his fast. Atp title this month in sofia are believed. That is another another italian in jahic sinner. Nineteen years is something crazy like that. But i think it's one of the one of the winners on the talks. I'm going sin. Sin was the winner. Cinemas the winner. Amazing yeah then i was. I forgotten temporarily that he was italian because he's come. He comes from the german speaking area. So i guess because he doesn't have a very italian name. I forget that he is italians of norms. I'm but yes you're completely right. He vasic pospisil in the final in law. Set to irate to to win the apron. Say yeah massive. Well don t joe still one hundred percent. Okay right my next question for you. Which i think is questioned eight. So which player when on the run with his family after testing positive for covid in saint petersburg subway a had tiny. I love just on the run. I mean it just makes us sound. Say strange amazing. Yeah tennis tennis is cool. These things happen. Yes i think everyone well which get this. We we have spoken about to solve last year. per se. player would be som- query. He's turned up thinking california since then has a name that is correct. sam query. Doing his james bond audition. I think i think this is probably the best way to put it say well. Yeah some query correct fabulous. Okay question number nine. Who won the deputy a room event defeating a push giver in the final and extending her win streak to fourteen matches. Now this idea not do. Although this is this is this is coming to be straightaway. final raw clay cool. Did you decide. They beat in the final. They did indeed wasn't a very exciting final. Yeah alumini helped you know. It hasn't really. I want to say no. This is wrong. I'm not going to get this. i think it will. I'm going to say. I'm just going to say as aranka. Even though i know i'm completely wrong. I think she lost to this. I think azarenka. Got the semi's or the quarters and then lost but that's not a bad guess because obviously as it did have boever purple patch of around not kind of time but it was actually simona halep. Who won as she beat pushpa. Chris cabrera retired in the second set so it was a bit of a known entity over final but yeah. It was highly and oversee going into the french open. We were all kind of achieving. She was going to win but alas she did not. Oh okay all right. I should have got very fill with. Forget how let it will be kicking yourself without french. Open anyway right. My final question fee is concerning this so fun question question. Ten who which unseeded player was the champion at the wto lexington event in the united states. L. lexington my. Gosh that was. It's the first year. They've pasted. That i think this year. Yeah it was. One of the first ones back wasn't a surreal later. Venus i think Yes i think. I know who is yep because this person did well are the us open. I think remember. He played in the final. But i think it was chad if a brady correct it brady yeah. She was great. Was she on the american hardcourts. And yes you unseeded and just kind of blew away all of the competition. I'm looking at the scoreline of every it was like six thousand six hundred sixty six three six thousand six two six two six four. And then she'd be jailed teichmann in the final six. Three six four so yeah. It was an unseeded final. And then jennifer brady one say yes. I think that means you one hundred percent. This is like when i get the first question on university challenge riot joe and i'm like one hundred percent as quickly sharply downhill. When do the next question cool okay. So we're going to go onto our difficult. atp slash wj round where the question should get a lot more tricky so if anyone's been listening along with thinking hey this is way too easy then. Things are going to change. Seen i hype. So i'm going to begin with the next one which will actually be question. Eleven i'm joel the moment i'm head of e by one point so we'll see if that changes often this second round as well but yeah let's begin question. Eleven which promising young french player won the wto title in palermo this summer on the restart of the. Wpa tool is a good question. I am going to say and do you know the eddie reason. I know the answer is because i was researching it wa- questions for put this question. But i think it's fiona farrow. Oh yes you're right. Joe done because i was wondering if if you would get the idea that if i would have got if i hadn't of design that question yet feels such a long time gay. Should be a net konta may in the final. I mean that's yeah very easy to forget that one and she also be heather watson in round one of the french open. I feel like she. She very court player ferry to the third round of the french shape or the fourth round. I think it was the fourth round. I think she lost to kenan. Didn't share in like three sets so she's had a break in maybe somewhat of a breakout season for all right my First question question. Twelve of the of the section. I am going to give you this onsite. Who won the astana opened in kazakhstan to capture his very first p title at thirty one years of age. Oh when he said astonished. I was like oh my gosh i yeah i think if this is a new event is what i think was i know. I know who the player is essentially. Because i guess it's being so recent. It's everyone's favorite nice guy on the tour at least from what i've heard. That is john millman. I believe correct. Yes it is jomon he. Yeah it was. It was nice story. Wasn't eh him winning his first title. Because yeah you felt like he felt like over the course of career. He deserved it. I feel like everyone he gets to a certain ranking like at least top fifty. I feel like if everything was fad like they would all tie in that career. I hate the thought they would get completely winless like better but i guess it's got to be someone who never quite does it. I mean in singles at least but yeah he. He avoided the wooden spoon. Or no paul however you want to call that okay question thirteen. I think this is who was the surprise finalist. At the atp vienna event losing to orangerie left in the final two replay of in the final. I'm i want to say. I think this is right. I'm just gonna say they was a critical dmitrov. Okay but right there to sounds to pay of greco apps lover well. I thought you'd get this job because we mentioned this. This guy in one of your questions in the last round and it was actually lorenzo guy yeah. abc djokovic but when all the way through to the to the final. Say there you go. I think the escaped to be. He been sitting. Hey all of course on read. I think the in the semi final. He beat down evidence. I've instead of i mean evans. Yeah we set on the party. We have been kicking himself. Sonic one that quite comfortably Yeah yeah that was definitely an unforced. Error there yeah. Okay my next question at wti lexington which play a defeated serena williams on route to the semi finals before losing to jill taishan. O oh my gosh serena williams this would have been i guess like her first or second fast much back of the whole down o. J. will i think when you said i was the oh i was thinking. Geez jennifer brady was her. No yeah i. I'm sure because i've i've i've discounting not. I think it was another american player. They he did quite well at the us apron. Was it show we roaches. Didn't she like a loss at tony. Break correct yeah Yeah i think she's called quiet. Good record davis serena williams from from what i can remember. But yeah she she serena williams and then you throw oh she was gonna be the favorite title but yeah when lost in the semifinals but Yeah it was shabby rope. It shall be roaches fantastic listener us. How many of you guys will still in terms of the schools. I mean i've i've one hundred percents. Joel which is a bit. I'm points i think on to. Mit points behind g. T. points behind plenty of plenty shop for sure. Okay question number fifteen. I think okay. This is A question where you can get half a point if you know half the answer so just by the unmined name. The two teams that competed at the inaugural battle of the brits event in july says t team names and you can get half points h over slowly. You got the whole point if them but what were the team names bottle of the brits. Yeah i remember this because he went when it was on a knife-edge wasn't it. I think it went to the final went to the final match which i think was a doubles match. I'm pretty sure that team names were the union. Jacks and think i think it was the british bulldogs britain. Yeah i think british bulldogs union giants. I'm i'm pretty confident. Those were the two names. But don't ask me which team won. Because i was gonna say yes. He got the mocks them right. So well done you get the whole point. And i was just about to say. Oh can you just tell me he won. But it was the bulldogs. They won on the final doubles time. Good question i write. My next question is which up and coming player took rome by storm by defeating nishikori and covering her in his first two matches. Yes good one another italian. I think i was thinking of sin. But it's not. It's this one is an another promising youngster. A what's his first name. Oh yeah okay doesn't look. This is a very italian quiz. I feel i was doing in italian. Which is also this guy. I saw sixteen. I think is an hey lorenzo seti correct. Yes lorenza mazzetti. Yeah i'd i didn't realize i was making these questions. Quite readiness is emmy. Lorenzo seems to be a great first name If you want to be like a future tennis player Lorenza mazzetti really announced himself. I think that's one of the We've to eye-catching wins against nishikori and africa just reminds me joe. There's an italian dollar on straight. Come down saying. I can never remember his name and i'm always like alejandro it just sappy but it's it's graziano but i just it never crosses my mind but maybe i should add lorenzo to my list of guesses. Embedding digressing massively question. Seventeen name the ought one out of the following. Ut s call. It's going to read out four different cards. You've got to tell me what trodden is. No actually real win in three shots. Max co- winners count times. Three opponent gives with the other hand and times for conservative serves so which one of those cards g think is fake. I can read them again. If you'd like me. please please rank them out right. Number one waiting in three shots max. To win is count. Times three three opponent receives with the other hand and four times. Four consecutive serves as to serve four times in a row. They all kind of make some sort of sense so which one is is not a row called. I'm going to say what was number two again. Number t was winners. Count times three. Say if you have nothing the first one. I'm going to say say a patient receives with the other hand. Yeah i would love that. I would love to see that being a ru even as something as innovative as the ultimate. I don't see them having rules. Say by the way you gotta your ever had. I you are correct. May not one up five so that'd be quite fun to but like wacky races on a tennis school But yeah well done right all came. I would actually love to see a grand slam where it's like the your you'd like wrong hand only and see who would want probably someone. Well i was just thinking like in the women's game someone he plays double-handed on side bonds. Me trying to think of someone who designed the men's game struggling on my next question fee. Which platform did face and andy. Murray us to commentate umbro costs from doing the atp finals platform yup social media platform. Awesome soda okay right. I'm not really oh fade with online things. Like what's that thing that everyone's doing tiktok. I have them without really could be. Tiktok does is it. Actually i would say like instagram. But i feel like it's actually something like twitch everyone's doing twitch i have some friends who race trucks on the broncos every twitch and they get money for i'm going to say twitch is at twenty very it is twitch correct yes ma'am face has twitch account twitches like a streaming service is more rooted in gaming yet proved popular and more mom face amurri with doing a lot of commentary which perview proved hilarious to say the lease on twitch channel so you are correct. It will twitch. Hey yeah i. I tried to download twitch to watch my friend play trucks. But i didn't have enough space for my a say i was like. Oh sorry okay. Question number nineteen to. What was nick. Curious referring to when he tweeted that it was a boneheaded decision. Feel like there's lots of things in two thousand twenty. He could have been faring to carry out from the to me. Makes it bone so bone. Bone headed boneheaded decision. So it doesn't you don't have to tell me specifically you can become general terms. Generally he was referring to when he called it. Don't think this is referring to the ashriya cup which wo is an event was held. We've all intention but ended up being almost kind of a superspreader event. The that the that curious just described as bone headed in it solve in. So it's makeup right you all very correct show you still. A tool was what i had down my aunt. Say yeah well done. Correct home on komo your Durham fool mocks this round. I'm sorry you know you and you said grid gets okay. My final question is concerning Atp and were now. i'm gonna give you a bit generous. Hit candy for one mark. Can you name either of the final this at the atp european open event which was held in antwerp belgium. Oh sorry eighty tough. I caught us to you. Regret the debry. What a year ago. Let's world at two years ago. I said dan evans do. I've got one of them. Dan evans got to the semi student. He because we were saying oh he could be the british winner in a row. He lost to something not native. Now it's coming back to me. Who died evans. Austerity don evans had match points. In like the tie-break or something in the fed sat. And then you go there. Oh no mixing up. Oh i thought uganda van. Yes i think he did. But didn't he be alex manure and the final so he gang give me give me one nine. Oh bear if you had said to me. Alex manure you would have been correct. Oh okay but you gave me got correct as well. He he wanted. He beat the minority in the final. And you're completely spotter. Ep he beat don evans in the semifinal He took a really tight. second set. tie-break knowing seven But yeah i'm is craxi you've got a point. I feel like joel. If we were doing like on the bossa. I would go. Because i have thought processing. Not data evans. He did he lose to blah but yeah if we were doing quick fire that i would go some of these. I think cool okay. Well i'm i'm somehow so you swim midway through what would disclose your an eight and i'm on ten. Say we don't think you badly. I think we did pretty well listeners. How you getting on. I think we're going to go for a quick break now. I'm going to reflect refresh. I'm going to refresh my beverage and we'll be back off quick at break for the second half of the quiz so do join us then. Are you ready to give your employees and customers smooth secure digital experiences. 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A sucker went in one in one. I think i wanna say jennifer brady. I want to say jennifer brady. Even though we've had jennifer brady before i'm just going to forget about that. I'm going to say jennifer. Brady get to the semi finals and lose. It was a really good match bus yet. Jennifer brady. I'm guess. Jennifer brady did indeed get to. The semifinals unleashed her soccer. You offer is jennifer. Brady was a good match. Really good match. The semis were amazing. quality matches. yeah. I think we were talking about like the matches really. Those matches really really delivered. Nothing they delivered more than the philip delivered much more than the semi finals of the men's lab. Absolutely okay. my question. Few concerns the french open. After reaching the fourth-round defeating stanford bring along the way. Who was the final frenchman left standing in paris. Joe i i have a question about dispersive. I will answer your question. But i will. I will quickly change my other question. So we didn't have to yet i will. I will change my question. But i do know this on certain this this person was. I have to say fabulous during the french open and i really enjoyed his fourth round against dominic thiem which went to five sets at it was it was brexit impressive. Yeah see sets. Yeah obviously you're not exactly It was ugo a guest on he. Yeah he lost six three and in the fifth set say that was remarkable. Really is correct. Yeah and i think he in going into the tournament he was ranked number two hundred and thirty nine in the world so it really was a very surprising rotten but yeah as you said. It was very memorable. He was very very entertaining on court. It was just it was just. The tennis was so much fun. And the fat remember because they will fans there and It was just great to hear the crowd behind that behind that guy just kind of chanting in the crowd it was just. It was just so almost refreshing to see that point. It was it was. It was probably from the final as a ref out in which i enjoyed and obviously this is probably my favorite match of the french open because it was just amazing. The number of johm shots gusto mosquito. Gals no way. It was really intense. I yeah okay right question. Twenty three we go back to the us open. Which player lead sasha zverev by two sets to love in the semi final before falling up to a five-set defeat. I swear some people talk about. I think they talk about this. Match is one of the worst semifinals like in terms of quality. Like in a good in a good. While i want to say it is pop. I wanna say pablo carreno was that the quarterfinals hang on. No i think are gonna go by instinct. I'm i'm i'm seventy percent certain i think that's i want to say that's popular bestow. He went two sets up then. Zverev that i think comfortably won the next three sets or something you all indeed correct. Pcp about below carina booster. Say well done to. It safer fee on this round. Joe okay right. Got french open question for you. This is a tricky one. I'll be impressed if you can get a mark for this name. Either of the two players involved in the second longest match in french open history which took place in the first round and lasted six hours and five minutes second longest badge not not the longest. Okay 'cause the longest is still all know clem. Worry okay cool in the i if you will if you then shelties but no dane. I fell well. Maybe in a second i can give you the school light if that helps. Yeah okay go on school line. yeah i mean. It's a very bizarre school. I love six seven six seven six two six eighteen sixty was the final school on. Oh yes because it kept going on. Oh and i was watching another match and then they kept cutting because i think this person was destroyed for the next round as she would be. Oh jose german. Yeah leonard strip. Was he involved in that match now. Yeah you could give me the three joe. I think this is my appreciate that. So clue i'll give you the players. I'm looking for iva and then italian. Or frenchman okay. That's really went down to frenchman. Frenchman quite a tricky one. Oh i felt corentin muti. I think was the french player. And i know a i tell you i tell you i. I've already won so you can go. You're going to get with the italian. I take thing is any of the talents that we've already talked about this episode so to say me mcvay is correct on right retail lost eighteen sixteen in the fifth set To in italian. Interestingly i don't know what it is but lorenzo is just like everywhere on our quiz. The italian he won against mutate was lorenzo justino. Yeah would definitely know that one in fact if you had said If you had said the nationality french. I probably wouldn't have gotten because came to me but yeah ok awesome gauche match. Hey okay question. Number twenty five. I think mrs what famous hard rock band did field tag listened to you during this year's french open on her way to victory okay. I wasn't even aware she listened to a hard rock. Badger say dispose wealth of this question of can have guess he listened he was. She listened to heavy metal. To some metallica. No i'm going to say for some reason. I want to say metallica. I'm no. I'm going to say i'm going to say. Acdc oh that's already get shout But it's wrong. Well actually. i'm questioning myself. Because i'm thinking she also did listen to them but the other band which is a lot like she mentioned this other band morning like chase guns and raises show. Welcome to the jungle. But that doesn't necessarily mean she wasn't also listening to acdc. So i feel like maybe i should give you half them up. Because i'm just thinking actually she probably covered them as well say i'm going to be generous and give aw- weeping much came the proc- shore. I'm so glad you able to offer me. Morrow fan fantastic. Help me. let me take rush trip. Okay next question for me. Which player did andy. Murray defeat coming back from two sets down in the. Us open round one match. Oh go shopping. I should say this day this. Oh wow okay. Estee jolie ouch. Japanese blake is felix seemed to begin with. I think he lost to him. didn't it. yeah that was in the next round. Oh his name his name. It's not nishikori. O- it's corey. Nine is that she fi japanese players are doing quite well. I think no. I could be here or not i. I've i've got what in my mind. But i didn't think it's him but i'm going to say go. So he data. Oh wow he wants to let eater completely correct the answer the answer. I was looking for and i for this. I thought this would have been a gimme bill. A yoshihito nishioka. Oh sorry andy. Murray i should i mean i knew it was japanese but the name was not for coming. Okay damn right. i'm that's my first one. I go wrong joe. Gosh okay right okay. Next question for ye. Why did ki medina vich cool for. Va all in tennis. After her. first round match at roland garros against lower zygmunt. I remember this. Because i was what she on my lunch. Break the wash on my lunch break. And i thought i really hope that doesn't have an impact on the bag of this batch. It totally did by dench like up comfortably. In the first. I think like five love and she lost a game the included i think a the unplug code a double bounce all night the double bounce but zygmunt won the point i think and then eventually but the unpire said i'm pie. Let play continued even though there was a double bounce. I think is is what happened. E. app essentially. Yeah you alright. Say i think he which had a set point but then after a patriot double bounce. Sequent didn't to twitter. Melissa vich was arguing with chair umpire but the chair umpire ignored her. I'm what did it look reloadable. Balancing if they had video reviewed it then pretty shoulder decision would which he'd been able to turn say yeah absolutely correct on joe one point who despite playing their first tournament. After a three year maternity leave reached the quarterfinals defeating seeded players. Gabino mugabe russa and donovan. Catch on on way in the french on the way during roland garrels taking me in the us open. Usa pin compete. He wrote. I don't think you and you're completely wrong here. What j. I was gonna say i was gonna say special on parole. Nca- is pretty apologies. Assets are completely usa. of course. i've forgotten that she beaten gubbio gubbio mcgary today. Man i remember her match against serena and i remember should be i think uh but yeah it was perron calls yeah. She lost to serena in the quarters in three sets and they were set to have a rematch in the french open. But that was when serena williams palau and perron cova went through third round them loss to critique uva i yeah perot had really great great run was really great to see actually just just generally blast for blast from the past one of our fan favorites. Yeah definitely yeah. She's always been someone. I've i've enjoyed watching law and i guess i'd kind of had a baby by didn't nature's gonna come back. I was ready like a nice surprise to see how well say quickly. Okay my last question. For each joe from the third. This is what i've has just invent. Because i was going to a ugo guests question. How many games did novak djokovic win in the of the french open against roughing it all tastic heads. I will give you point for either side. Say you'll you'll still get the point if you if you get a within one game on either side of the answer yep yeah. It was really one-sided wasn't it was expecting it to be a titanic tussle in. it just did not happen having said that. I don how one sided it was. Did he get to double figures. Maybe no i'm going to say i'm gonna say eight games. Ooh see you get the point because he won seven games. But as i said you you get sick seven or eight so yes well done. Well done okay. God that was one-sided listening yeah well closer than the school. I actually suggests while i came my final question for the round is which women's playa was forced to withdraw from her singles match and the doubles event at the us. Open due to playing cards with ben wallpaper. Joel i thought you what you're gonna go into all his Me to name all the players. I had to withdraw more. Could name the more corinthian muti was one of them. I think well it's has just been mentioned. Hasn't she Maybe it was christina radanovich. I believe that is correct. Yes she was not very happy. We'll shake because. I think what she was top seeded in the in the ladies doubles and wasn't able to play left very very very frustrated by the by the situation will call. The was that were brought in to enforce the new york bubble. Exactly i mean. I would also have felt quite agree if potassium yeah. It was a control until the time. Okay so that's the sad round. Joe you've got four and a half and i've got full from that round. Say i think. I'm still in the lead of fourteen on your own. Twelve and a half say you'll you gradually closing gap and perhaps the fourth and final round we'll We'll get either say. Let's move on to the final round which is actually going to be able to have a homage to the atp finals in london which began in two thousand nine and have just ended last week. We thought we just do a quiz round on as a sort of trip down memory lane some of the highlights all talking points from the lost. Well eleven twelve years at the. Not so yeah. Let's see how we will get on because some of these questions will be real blasts from the paul so we might say what at this round. Okay you'll begin. Joe yep okay in. What manner did nave act. Jackovitch win the two thousand fourteen welsh to finals the first time this has happened. In the tournament's forty five year history yes. I remember this very well. 'cause like most fans. I was getting ready to watch it on tv. And i'm pretty sure it didn't happen. I'm pretty sure he won it because of a wall keva because i feel like his opponent federer. I feel like it was roger. Federer was had to pull out with an injury so he wanted. He won the tour finals on walker. You are a hundred percent correct. Well what did they do instead of the final two. Did they do anything. Like i can't remember melt. Welcome it's funny. You should ask that one of my questions okay. Oh back at my My memory my men. Rica then for that one i feel like andy. Murray my been involved. But let's let's go onto. The next guy wanted actress how i in twenty fourteen as a result of that final. Not being played and imaginative paying spectators in the crowd. An exhibition doubles match. Took place. four point name. Two of the people he played in not exhibition doubles match. I remember this happened at indian wells. I think for the final one year or semi final involved. And it's yes. Yes yes you're right. Andy murray must've well. I suppose he would have just been watching the final he would still looking around for him to suddenly appear and play so i shouldn't joke of h would have been involved. Andy murray. I'm just saying that because he was obviously at home. I'm just very very specifically. I'm i'm saying. The exhibition doubles match. So i think yokich paid in a bit of a singles rally. He's one of the. He's not one of the four. Andy murray and well as vice jamie murray my of he might have been there anyway because of doubles say and each amy tim. Henman would've been edging broadcasting or could have displayed. Some one of the double was pass. From that event they would have done the doubles final beforehand wooden as but they could still live. Oh i'm gonna say tim henman. And andy murray. That is correct. Very good very very good. Andy bari and tim henman with two of the correct answers. Yeah it was andy. Murray tim henman and the two other players you have given me john mcenroe. I kind hat cash. So i'm sure they all their on broadcasting gte's and they decided to play on a an exhibition doubles match. I was reading context for it. They none of them for any money saliva. Okay let's get on a tennis court. And yeah they gave the fans gave some fans they gave fads a which they unfortunately didn't get because yeah the the final between federal judge just did not take place no well. That stuff's great. They managed either and showed nate as well. So yeah fantastic. I i was just gonna say i always remember. I think from that of murray played federal. I think like the semifinals and it was like love and one to federal so it was like a complete like obliteration of murray in front in front of his crowd. Brit big so a so. It's like one sided but but yeah Yeah but yes. Djokovic won not event in a rural. Okay so yeah that was. That was my question back back to you okay. Fat and fantastic okay. I like this question. One of the all spanish doubles pairings. He clicked the doubles title. Jeering london's tenure of the tool finals. So there were two. Spanish doubles pairings. He won this doubles title. And actually it was in consecutive years. I'll give you the years as oh thank you That means say twenty twelve and twenty thirteen two years on the doubles. Tisha went into an all-spanish pan. Can you name. I can give you can give you. Spanish doubles players. Whether there she played with each other. I've got no of shaky. Ground half marks may be available. Say i'm going to go for. I'm going to have to go with feliciano lopez and moscow granola. You'll say face jaw so you get half-point 'cause she said mom grenadas with feliciano lopez has seen putting twelve. Ought he should have just not knew. The first i'd say should as yup. Yeah one year later. Fernando daska moreira won the title. Wow that's they were. They get getting they have that you. So yeah you half point athlete warm okay. My next question few is this one site who won the first singles event of the toll. Fine news in london. So let me just say that again. Who won the singles event in the first year. The toll finals were held in london. Okay and that was in two thousand and nine. We talked about this last week. I think on our on our our atp finals catcher because we've had russian winner in the last year and we had a russian winner in the first year maybe ally davidenko. I believe that is correct. Yes it was who one. Yeah one the fast fest. Time round in two thousand nine when it had moved from shanghai to london. Take whom did greg dimitrov. Defeat in the two thousand and seventeen final instantly. I've got two names in my in my brain. One of them. For some reason as jackson walk and the other one another. I think this again was quite right. I think it was quite surprising. David goffin. I'm gonna say david goffin feel like the like the lower off the topic go through to the final and i feel like gaggle fan was i think that was potentially one of his best species on the tool in his career. I'm going to go. David goffin a k. Well joe you said jack salk he said david goffin at as david go fan well Three sets t. in that final six three in the third okay. My next question fee is this one What year did andy murray win his only tour finals so so far safe wound potentially could win another one who began some but could could still do yes. I do believe sausage was two thousand and sixteen because that was the year he was second. Wimbledon second olympics was well number one. And yeah i think that was the a that is correct. It was twenty six hundred. And he beat novak djokovic in the final And just just bonus points on offer here but do you know why would you know what what what was the importance of that win against your commission the final to cement the year end number one. That is correct. Yes see Became the era number one with that victory in two thousand sixteen against fitch ship. So yeah marty. I k- right next to each. Oh they have a row gordon hair. Which american player qualified in eighth position for the two thousand and eleven event. Oh me that's right. I mean T thousand eleven dane. Andy roddick would have been long gone. I think When been that high anyway He's like really consistent to be there I'm going to say. Say john is ner no bad guess but yet actually thought he has been around for wall. Isn't he probably is just as gates of seasons. You know or you might have even been an old schnur. It's not janis. How this person i tell you. See your i mean. I was really surprised when i saw this. And i when. I was sort of trying to think of an intriguing question and i don't remember this person being there he was. It was mody fish really by roy. He he just qualified in eighth. Place he he had a breakthrough season apparently in twenty eleven If i don't remembers the top and he won the us. I ten series. He reached three consecutive finals. So yeah he was very consistent. I suppose and got to the wimbledon finals that year as well so yeah really surprising but yeah it was modification. I kind of ashamed. I mean this one of his last days on tour. Because i'm i'm sure tied quite sudin enough like not not too long after this year. Okay all right molly fish okay. I'll tell ya okay my next question for you So daniel medvedev beat dominic thiem this year in the final. It was the first time since david nalbandian in two thousand seven at the madrid masters. to do what. Yeah i think on asia's obviously method. I've brite very threatful. Novak lost week to win the title and dominic team. They are the top three players in the world. So i think yeah. He's the first riot of one. Well any event having beaten the top three in the world. Correct yes since david nalbandian in two thousand seven he yet he defeated house. He said the top three ranked players the world on the tool and lifted the title as well which is really impressive. Us was keep going and just won the tournament. Say when correct another okay. This is my last question for each joe. Say okay. it's making one right. What has the key of onsite attendance being to the oti during its tenure between two thousand and nine and two thousand one. So i'm going give you a point if you all within zero point. Five million on inside of the answer. Thank you Oh i've got all right so twelve. I mean it's been twelve additions. Million perdition sat stop feels too many people. six I'm going to say four. Four four and a half million of honestly. I've got no idea. A four and a half million is islam guessing based on some really terrible. Maths is going on in my head at the moment. I'm intrigued you didn't try to sort of say. How much zero two sessions. All that i will go way too. Confused way of my head. T quickly wouldn't have been worth it fair enough. Okay you're actually chief are like actually chief are four. Four and a half off million. You're unfortunately outside of my my range for the point. But i still horrendous. It's actually two point eight million o. K. t. a. but yet listeners. All within two point three to three point three. Give yourself the point for dumb. I would love to know if anyone actually got upside this week. Say i've met. Yeah okay my final question to you. What did andy murray famously do. At the change of ends against in his match against raf on the dial in twenty fifteen twenty fifteen was this the semi semifinal. They thought that was quite good. Maybe famous ends okay. I've got something in mind but i. I didn't think andy's this person do this. This could have been an accident on space. He disrupted the dolls. Bustles i think. She s city. Then you just talked to okay. The change i feel like i should say this. I feel like i'll give you a clue. It's i i would say it's very giftable is very you can put it in a gif. I think still go with him. So maybe did he. So of chewy towel sir. I was something in debate and all just argue at the empire off. Say something otherwise. We'll be here all night. I'm going to say that andy. Murray through his towel in the been in discusses aim performance that is incorrect. Kim was it was it was much more somber than that. It was bit more comical. He his hat. I pair of scissors his hair in my line by think he also trade. It's common core pair of scissors and cut. His head is brilliant. Does does by me by remember that but remember but i'll have to cheap and watch that one because of all the things to call up. Yeah i think that brings us to close. Isn't it joe. Say let me just taught the schools ten eighteen out of nieve. Four eight twelve thirteen fifteen out. I'll have any. Don't really aim thing list is are. What have you done with these questions. Have you learned some new things. Have you remembered more than you had has it. Has it really challenges shura your tennis knowledge from well from two thousand and onwards but we we've had creating the question. We hope you enjoyed playing along as well with its today. Yes yeah we really hope. You enjoyed really enjoyed a quiz. We've got one final episode for you next week. It will be our awards episode where we will be reviewing the whole season in our own sort of passing shot way. We're kind of formulate a categories for our awards episode at the moment and we would love to hear from listeners. For any nominations for categories cut every recap the season came. What walks off categories. Are we looking running examples. 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Eu Tava L #117 - A GUY WITH A MACHINE GUN (com Lucas Salles)

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649 Detect and Avoid

Airplane Geeks Podcast

46:50 min | Last week

649 Detect and Avoid

"This is the airplane geeks. Podcast our aim is to educate and inform you explore and expand your passion for aviation and entertain you little along the way this episode. We talk with the ceo of a company on the forefront of technology to bring detect and avoid capability to unmanned aviation. This is essential for integrating beyond visual line of sight. Unpiloted aircraft into the national airspace system. Welcome to the airplane geeks podcast. This is episode six hundred forty nine of the show where we talk aviation. I'm max flight. This episode is being published during sudden fund. And we'll be deviating from our normal format. What we have is an interview. David vanderhoek i recorded for the uav digest. Now i know there is some audience. Overlap between that podcast and this one but for all you who general here. Not interested in drones. Stick with me for just a minute. Our guest is john damage. The ceo of iris they've developed onboard detect and avoid technology for beyond visual line of sight. Drone flights if piloted in aircraft or going to share the same airspace. This is critical technology that both worlds have a stake in one thing that you will appreciate is that john is a pilot himself and he brings the understanding that you all have into the unmanned space. Just listen to his bio. John has over thirty years of aviation technology. Experience and executive leadership he led new. Business ventures at boeing next. He was chief growth officer at boeing subsidiary. In situ and he was a boeing executive liaison board member to sky. Grid a joint venture between boeing and spark cognition. John was the ceo of two d. Three sensing a leading provider of computer vision based image processing software for aerial surveillance. He's also an faa certified commercial pilot multi engine and instrument ratings and. He's a cfi pretty. Good hey if you're a pilot or naveh geek that's the kind of guy you want in the drone business. Our man on the inside so to speak. Irish autonation is primarily a computer vision and machine learning software company. That's focused on helping. Unpiloted systems detect other airplanes. The company's cassia product is a platform agnostic. Three hundred sixty degree radio computer vision tech and avoid system for unmanned aerial systems. So i invite you to listen to this conversation. I think you'll find it interesting in if you are a subscriber to the uav digest. This is the same interview as an episode. Three hundred and seventy no need to continue unless you'd like to hear it again which would flatter david me. Okay our guest is john damage. He is the ceo of iris automation. They produce the cassia which is platform agnostic. Three hundred and sixty degree radio computer vision detect and avoid system for you a. s. and they also have something they call the regulatory resource center. Which is an online tool that manages. The bbc loss waiver application process. How john's got a really nice long. Fantastic aviation technology career. He led new. Business ventures at boeing next. He was chief growth officer. At boeing's subsidiary in situ and he was a boeing executive liaison and board observer to sky grid which was a joint venture between boeing and spark ignition. John was also the ceo of two d three sensing they're a leading provider of computer vision based image processing software for aerial surveillance in on top of all that he's also an faa certified commercial pilot. He has multi-engine an instrument ratings and he's a cf. I the certified flight instructor. John welcome to the uav digest. Thank you very much. Max and i'm calling in from southern california to stay on team there. We go which probably makes both of your little bit jealous. This time year. I grew up in new jersey so i definitely remember what late february early march felt like This tease of spring but winter holding on for dear life. Well we were at seventy three degrees today. So i actually had the hanger open at the museum which was kind of a nice thing was on the teas. Get the punch is coming all right. Well john why don't we start off talking a little bit about the products and services that irish automation offers Detected avoid is certainly a big part of what you do. Yeah i would say. Detection is primarily what we do we at our core our computer vision and machine learning software company and what the founders of our business realized is that the drone industry was not going to be able to grow exponentially like all the hype held for so many years until drones were allowed to fly more like regular airplanes and The thing that really precludes that from happening today is satisfying the existing regulations as they relate to seeing and avoiding other traffic. And you know what the audience probably knows. Maybe some don't is. There is a specific rule in the current regulations In under part ninety one and that the rule is one thirteen. and be. that says it's the pilot's responsibility Weather conditions permitting to see and avoid all other aircraft. Well the funny thing happens when you take the pilot out of the cockpit in that you've now taken those eyeballs in those sensors out of the aircraft that gives you that what we refer to as the last line of defense against an airborne collision so rightly so Regulators have been very careful not to authorize too many flights of drones beyond visual line of sight until we can solve this problem so that is squarely where irises focused forgive the pun in. That is helping. These unpiloted systems detect other airplanes. So that the autopilots can actually then avoid those aircraft much the same way and frankly what will probably be better than the human pilot can And that's why we're so optimistic and really looking forward to to the value we can provide to the community because while we focus on drones to start The long run is this is a system that can help aviator and i for one as someone who spends a lot of time in low altitudes and small airplanes teaching people to fly I know how bad i am at seeing in avoiding other traffic so if i could get a hold of a system that helped me be better. I would jump at it so yeah. That's that's what we do. What is the sensor suite. And why does it allow at least ultimately Detection that superior to what a human being can deliver in. How close are we to that now. So it's funny because on the surface. The system appears deceptively simple because all it is An array of cameras one six cameras depending on the configuration of europe planet where we have to put cameras to allow you to see the right section array of airspace and a central computer unit which is really no bigger than To iphone stacked on top of one another. So it's a really small innocuous looking piece of hardware. The magic is in software and specifically the fact that It's pretty easy for us as humans to understand how a computer vision system might be able to detect something that's in the field of view because it's moving differently the pixels the way they move. Okay got it. Like i can see how it computer could rapidly determine something different in the scene. That's true. It relatively straightforward and people have been doing this for decades with cameras. What's really hard to do with cameras however is understand how far away something is from that camera because the camera by definition is a two dimensional sensor. You got experts. Why pixels so. How do you get that distance to target. And this is where the machine learning comes in and frankly. This is only been computational possible Within the last five years or so computers get small enough to be on board and also suck a small enough amount of power so that you don't use all of your power to run the computer and can't fly right you kind of need to still fly so The advent of gpu's now puts enough power processing power at a low enough electrical power. Need to be able to do this kind of math on board the airplane and the math is where our software is. So what we do. Is we use machine. Learning to defy the targets that the computer vision system detects once. We can classify those targets. Think small helicopter large helicopter single engine small plane twitch small plane. We now have a an approximation of their size and given their size in the real world and knowledge of our cameras. Geometry we can now directly compute. How far away. That thing is from the camera that's clever. Therein lies the magic. And when you combine those two things together and you run them online or on on boarded ten frames per second note. Now have a real time detection system. that's capable of helping you avoid collisions. Different people are working on different. Detect and avoid systems. Is there any kind of a requirement for consistency across the industry. Does it matter if people are using different systems as long as each one is sufficiently accurate. Yeah there's two parts here So there's a regulatory answer to this And then there's technology answer to this. The regulatory answer is yes. The regulator definitely cares how this is done because for a regulator to be able to grant permission for someone to fly either as a special case or as codified in regulations. They need to understand. Not just where the system works. But we're a system doesn't work and you know the analogy. I'll use is when you take an aircraft through stirs certification. It's not about the faa like breaking out the holy water in the chicken bone cross and saying. Oh this is an airplane worth flying. What they do is they basically by validate the claims. You make as a manufacturer as to the performance of that aircraft in the core case in the edge cases and in the failure cases if the you show them and can prove matches what you said it will do. Then you get certification so The regulator definitely cares how this happens and they want to know what the performance limitations are with the reliability is what happens when something abnormal comes into the field of you to potentially distract the system. What does the system due to to make sure that the probability of detection that we claim is actually what happens so we we actually do a lot of work flying airplanes at other real airplanes To to get these kinds of collision geometry's that we need to build up a large enough corpus of data to show the regulator how the system works and doesn't work in a variety of different conditions and scenario. So that's that's the regulatory answer here. The technical answer to that question max In the future it is my opinion that the very best detect and avoid system has multiple sensing modalities deployed simultaneously so you would have an optical system like ours you would have a radar system you would have an acoustic system because each of these is naturally complementary in different ways and therefore now you're building a layered set of mitigations that ensure that nothing sleep slips between the cracks right so in that case you do need to understand if target that the radar system produced is the same target the optical system produced that matches up with what the acoustic system says so. There's data synchronization correlation. And i hate this word. A lot of people use it fusion. That will need to happen. So that a multimodal system can produce an output that either in on board machine system or an off board human operator can easily interpret and then make a decision to commence an avoidance maneuver as a result. John you're talking about life. And i i agree fusions kind of a strange word but what mitigations do you have for the sensors not being overloaded. You're flying you said southern california. So you're flying in the los angeles airspace. There's a lot of moving targets there. How quickly they're going to be a differentiation. And you may have to. Aircraft similar like say one seventy. Two's flying at different altitudes at different distances. But you know they have pretty much the same profile. How is the computation. Are we getting that far. Or is that four or five more years down the road. So i mean this is one of the Probably the good news parts about the optical approach to the to the problem is a cameras a camera so The saturation challenge. That you present there is really if you had two very similar targets that were kind of co populating a vector of view from the camera. So get one seventy two. That was a mile behind another one. Seventy two and then they were kind of like juxtaposed a little bit. Does that now look like something different or does it hide one or the other. Yeah i mean th those are definitely the challenges of any optical system and you know by my Point of view on that. It's exactly the same challenge that the human faces but computational the system itself doesn't really have a target limit some radar systems do because of the processing that has to go into radar Well there's post processing has to happen in a radar system but also just the number of simultaneous returns. You can process the system so you've probably heard things like an f. Fifteens air to air radar can simultaneously track. What whatever. The number is simultaneous targets. Right and that's like the air superiority advantage but with an optical system it's passive so it's just whenever we see in the camera the takes care of and does what it does. So we don't really have an inherent computational limit when it comes to that it Visual limit so certainly if the skies were darkened with a million cessnas and a square mile. Then yeah we probably break well that brings up another thing. Your optical system. How does it deal with weather. Inclement again with southern california. A good old foggy day in southern california in june gloom. As they say you got it you got it now. You're absolutely right. It optical is optical. If we can't see it we can't track it just like a human. The nice thing about that constraint is that typically that also means there's fewer non-cooperative traffic targets in the airspace. So the threat we're really trying to combat is the non-cooperative target and it's a funny word because when you hear non-cooperative our our brains immediately go to like somebody just doesn't wanna play with us. Well no actually in the united states wonderful civil liberties. We have which is free access to the airspace. There's airspace where you can go jump in an airplane with no radio. no transponder. no eighty s be system. nothing electronic at all and go fly like god bless america. That is amazing. The problem is those very same perfectly. Legal pilots are also sharing airspace. Where there's a lot of industrial inspection that wants to happen there. In rural areas there pipelines. Power lines mapping fields doing methane detection. Whatever it might be That's where people wanted to deploy drums. So now what you have is the perfectly legal but non-cooperative target the proverbial person in their cub on the weekend in the same airspace as the enterprise drone. That's trying to do. You know a thousand kilometer scanning mission or something like that. So this is the case that scares the regulator and rightly so because we don't want to step on the freedoms that we enjoy in the country. So we don't wanna force the gpa community to have to equipped with special equipment just to allow the drone community to go flying. And when you also the fact that the rules are based on a principle of see and be seen which works great when you got to a airplanes or two airliners doesn't work great when you've got a g airplane drone because the drone is just frankly impossible to see from the plane which means the responsibility to see an avoid falls on the shoulders of the drone operator. Not the general aviation operator so so we're all about trying to detect that non-cooperative threat. Fortunately when when the weather's bad save below via far minimums That threat really doesn't exist out there. And if they do then they're flying illegally and at the end of the day you know we're not trying and neither is the regulator trying to hold us accountable to building a system that defends against the illegal operator. There's a certain amount of trust in the system that people will will follow. The rules will on the spectrum from zero. All of this is a an idea. All the way to have a certified detecting devoid Mechanism where do we fall now in in that spectrum. Yeah i would say So if the left side is a great idea if the right side is fully certified. We're right of center First of all there's no unmanned system out there that's fully certified yet right the rules on on the books there's no standards of compliance mops cetera etc that the communities all working towards this right now The faa has done a great thing. Here in america and Provided pass to type certification drones below fifty five pounds which is referred to usually as derby reliability Which unfortunately when you say the acronym fast sounds like dnr which sounds like. Do not resuscitate. But that's not what it means. It's really good path forward because it's performance based and that's great That allows a new manufacturer of an aircraft to come in and prove that they can fly a certain number of hours incident free and that the performance maps to their claims. And that's what the regular is all about. Like i said before. Does your performance match your claims so they now have a path to be able to do that with small drones. Melons finished it yet. But we're getting there right. People are in the process and we expect certify drones app and soon when it comes to our system. This is an interesting question and one that is still as of yet. Unresolved there's two parts We certainly need cameras and computers on board to be able to do what we do on board. That's got to be part of the airplane while if it's part of the airplane than it's gonna fall under the type certification basis for the airplanes at some point because you've got power you've got signal you've got structure. The lenses have to be able to see outside the airplane which means there might be an aerodynamic impact that has to take care of outer mold line at cetera et right so these things belong in the certification baseline of the airplane. So we want to get on board the airplanes as early as possible with partner. Oem's so that as they go to submit their stuff the casio hardware as part of the trump systems. Now that said when a cessna one seventy to get certified it does not have a detect and avoid system. It has a seat for said detecting avoid system which is a human. So it's really the human that provides the da capability to be you know regulatory compliance after the fact so i firmly believe that what we'll see is a combination any hardware that goes on board for optical a radar acoustic. That's that's gonna fall under the aircraft type certification but when it comes to what that system must do in terms of its performance. I think a lot of that is going to be more closely tied to the operations that you intend to go. Do your literally your missions in your use cases in the environments that you're gonna go fly those in because if you're flying pipeline patrol ten feet above the pipeline in the alaskan tundra guess what There's not gonna be a lot of the traffic out there so maybe you really don't need a three hundred sixty degree field of view system that could see an airplane a mile away right because you're also flying ten feet above the pipeline. So if there's anybody else fly ten. Feet above the pipeline. I would argue that breaking rules already but be contrast is if you're flying in you know southern california's a great example. There's class golf airspace in southern california. That's every bit as busy as a class. Charlie airspace and other parts of the country. So if you're trying to fly in that environment will guess what. Yeah you probably do need at three hundred sixty degree field of view system that can track multiple targets within a mile of the aircraft etc etc. So i think it's combination of both Where we are technically to come directly. Answer your question We are on board aircraft. We flown we've actually received two waiver approvals from the faa twenty nineteen under the immigration Pilot program for the use of our system as the bb loss and detected avoid safety system on board. Now they're limited use cases. It's not a copy and paste. That doesn't like all of a sudden give everybody a license to go. Oh go go do that The i p p. and the current faa program their programs that are designed to allow the regulator to learn to go explore different use cases in different environments to understand where the real risks are so that they can inform rulemaking the future so Faa learned about that stuff from the ip that what happens and beyond we are participant beyond so it is It is my expectation within the next couple of years. You'll see more clarity from the regulators around the world not just fa on tv loss and that From our perspective and technically the system works. It does what it does. We're in the process of gathering both real world and simulated data in enough volume. That we can put the data in front of the regulator so they can see the entire performance below the good the bad the ugly and understand. Okay this is the level of credit. Were willing to give this system because this is where we trust. It's gonna work with ninety five percent reliability and above that gives us the kind of detect and avoid system that we want now irish automations also involved in a pathfinder program in canada. Tell us a little bit about what that involves. Yeah indeed So fundamentally we don't have a business unless people go fly. Bb loss so On the surface canadian program. It's not really revenue producer for us. But that's not the point. The point is to raise the bar of other participants in the in the industry so that more people are prepared to go do. Bb las operations so That's specific exercise exercise. It's a it's a partnership with transport. Canada is to help new entrance. Come use the canadian ranges to get and build flight experience in. Bv loss so it's a very controlled environment. There's not a lot of threat aircraft if you want some. You can bring some in in design your encounters so that you can test and learn Wheat supply cassius systems. So they can put him on board and see how to interact with a das system. As part of the development of their concepts of operation the developments of their training materials and their individual staff experience levels because in canada you have to have a certain experience level before you're even allowed to apply for any kind of sfo see special flight operational clearances to go. Do this work so for us. It's a great way to collaborate with the regulator. It's a great way to provide a safe environment for new entrance to come in and really really build up the flight hours that they need to understand what this really means and then go forth so it's all about Industry enabling enablement for us And regulatory relationships so We're really proud of that program. We anticipate that it's going to help a lot of people Kind of up their game in terms of bb loss flight and ultimately we know it'll come around bay davidenko for us because then we're going to have more people in the marketplace who are cassie a customers that come about. Did you call canada or did canada call you you know. Interestingly the company was originally founded in vancouver bc also This is back in twenty fifteen and the two founders met at a university of british columbia so that our genesis is in canada. So i think the relationship with regulators started as far back as then and throughout the years. The interesting thing about canada is it's this interesting. Van diagram overlapped between rules. That look like the faa's rules and rules that look like European aviation space administration. Yasa's rules right and that's great. That's a pretty cool crucible to be able to test things out so Based on that you know relationship we also have a really really good. And i feel very qualified saying this. Because i come out of the boeing company regulatory team we've got You know five people in regulatory team who are absolutely top notch and they have amazing relationships with global regulators. And you know it's through those relationships that start talking about different things and challenges in the industry and somebody comes up with an idea. And it just kind of snowballed from there that said. Hey if you're willing to do this is a company because you know we got contribute some resources to make this happen going to be really good thing for the industry so we saw and we said this is a good idea. Let's let's go do it. Did you have something. David you look like you were i. Well i was. I was thinking john. We were talking about canada. Canadian regulations versus us faa regulations. Is it a challenge to navigate. All of everybody's doing different things like you said he yasa and the pacific regions etc i mean. Are you working on the assumption that you know you get the faa rigs in the rest of it you can sort of. How are you navigating all of the different rules. Yeah so the good news is. Nobody's got rules yet job. You know the your your observation is spot on though david in that. It is a challenge because the rules don't exist yet everybody's trying to figure it out and everybody has a slightly different angle on that. The good news is is that historically Regulators do reciprocate with each other. So you know if somebody comes up with a rule set. I that proves to be safe. Then if the other regulators don't adopt it they'll at least honor it. So you can take a us registered aircraft and fly in europe without having to get a european registration because there's reciprocity so We fully expect that the regulators will continue to behave in that way and during this process where the global regulatory community has been trying to figure it out. We've seen a remarkable amount of collaboration and information sharing back and forth It's mixed in with a healthy bitta competition. I think i think every regulator kinda wants to be first to figure it out and there's a feather in the cap there but but that said it hasn't been competitive. They've been sharing information around things like specific operation risk assessment. Or seora for your audience if they've ever heard that acronym And store methods and principles being applied across just about every jurisdiction today because it it provides us performance based in an operational based way to assess risks that then lead to subsequent approval so I've been incredibly pleased. Both at my time at boeing. And by time. Here iris to see that kind of regulatory collaboration and i expect it will continue. That's great it sounds really healthy productive relationship. Which is yeah. I mean as much as you can say. Government bureaucracy is healthy but yeah yeah well. Speaking of organizations there's something called the world economic forum and They have i guess. An aerospace droned section of it and Irises working in that context. What's that all about. They do honestly completely honored to be a part of that community It's an amazing group of government. Representatives industry representatives individuals academics. That are really focused. At how for specific sector of it. You know how drones can better the human condition around the world and That's really cool right because everybody wants to know that something you do like helps other people in some way. It's a tremendous motivator and a really nice and tangible reward for for the hard work that you put into something so when you look at Most of the rest of the world's economies these are regions of the world where there's not significant infrastructure but you still have population growth so you have. The challenges of things like population growth's fighting against the challenges of immature infrastructure and robotic aircraft can offer a lot of value in those environments for the urgent things like delivering medicines. Like that is amazing. And you've seen great success from from drone companies over the last few years you know namely companies like zip line or or swoop You know out there flying doing these kinds of deliveries for the betterment of humans. That live there right. That's awesome but the number of use cases where drones apply in the rest of the world is massive so this is really what the w. f. is trying to do is really explore these use cases find industry participants who are willing to kind of pay their own way for lack of better way to put it to be part of these missions and the value we get out of it is is learning right we get to go try stuff in the field for great purpose. it's wonderful for our teams to to get that sense of satisfaction But then we get a feedback loop from the deployment of systems in the real world. That helped Then improve the pace of development than the accuracy of developments running new capabilities. Helping a company is iris. How many employees or what kinds of skill sets are involved here. Yeah we're tiny. We're about forty people with three main parts of the company where we have the majority of people certainly on the aren decide building the tech certainly on the regulatory side because we need to have really good transparent data exchange with regulators But perhaps on the less obvious side. Although when i say to go of course obvious We have a pretty decent flight operations team and they fly drones and airplanes every day in reno to go gather the real world data that we need to validate and verify the performance of our system. So we have guy named in god. Bless him all he wants to do all day fly. That's what we make practically flies a cub in a myriad of very precise patterns and timings to make sure that it all lines up with our test methods and the way we want to to create the data so that we can validate the performance. We expect of that data. So he you know. He spends most of his days flying around at five hundred feet. He'll come over the desert. He's found the dream job pretty much. Maybe you would. You would think he was married to that airplane the way he talks about it but he kind is so john. How did you get where you are and maybe talk a little bit about your flying. Your flying yourself. Yes sure i was. That annoying kid at the airport was four years old telling everybody that would listen to how many engines were on the airplane. What thrusts they produced passengers. Jared yada yada yada right. Like i was that freak Just love airplanes and then On my fourteenth birthday my dad was army for twenty years and he He surprised me and he says giant got present we talked to and we got in the car and we drove out to fort dix in southern new jersey mcguire air force base specifically now. It's called joint base fort dix. Mcguire is on that what they call it now but big wire dicks lakers. Md outright so it was mcguire force base and they had an arrow club. Which if you're active duty or retired could use and your Dependence qualified so he said cool. We're gonna take flight lessons together. Went through the ground school together. And i had my first flight lesson at age fourteen so i was quite literally flying airplanes before i was driving cars and And i was hooked. It was all over. I knew i had to have like flying in my life one way or another so fortunately for me. I was always really good at math. And science and that led to an aerospace engineering undergrad In parallel got my private licence and my instrument license and then shortly after college. I said you know. Maybe i'll make a go of this. Being a pilot for career went and added the commercial ratings multi engine rating started teaching people to fly through flight instructors rating to build the hours necessary to apply to regional airline and along that path. I got an opportunity to join a company that was doing flight simulation for entertainment And this is a fascinating thing you can do all podcast in this business. That i could probably find some old stuff but it was a place called fighter town and we had twelve cockpits which were basically noses cut off of old fighters from the bone yard and we wired them up with a ho- tasks sticking throttle controls and projected visuals out the outside and it was all networked together so this was nineteen ninety. Three and i was the first engineer. Hired outside of the three founders. Who started the company. And i gotta tell. I fell in love with startups. I fell in love with this idea of entertainment and that business failed miserably. Break shining star for a couple years and people would come in. They buy their own flight suits their helmets. They didn't know each other's first names. They called each other by call signs. They you know. Enter the parking lot in their top transam. Blazing kenny loggins. Right out of top gun. It was absolutely fantastic But you know business didn't work and for me as a young engineer is not worth is coolest thing since sliced bread and it kind of Lit a fire in me to go back to school. So i got my mba learned. What business was all about. And then i could analyze that business and go. Oh no wonder that didn't work. So yeah so then i just kind of skip the middle bit of the career couple of other startups. I was a part of that. Didn't work out. And i ended up joining up with a british company. Two thousand which is a company called fight con motion systems which makes these high end optical motion tracking cameras. And if you ever seen the making of a movie or video game replay low balls on your body animated character that was as vicodin so I was sales guy for them for a little bit. Did really well. There ended up being a sales manager. Did well there ended up running the entertainment division out of la. We did a couple of acquisitions ran a studio in la that did special effects and they had the sister company which wasn't doing terribly well wasn't failing but it wasn't growing and they asked me to come in and see what i could do with it so we It used computer vision and airplanes. We took video and telemetry off of airborne platforms and used computer vision software to allow an analyst to make a report that might be a map. It might be a measurement might be target tracking. It might be target coordinates and we ended up. Pivoting that business to be A software company for the dod and ended up selling that business in twenty fifteen two bowling. That's how i got into the boeing family and then And then you know how i got to this place. It's been absolutely fascinating journey. And fortunately for me always been a thread through. that's fantastic. it's It's so nice when you can craft a career around something that you're really passionate about max you say that as if it was deliberate it was a complete accident and all that stuff happens so well you know luck sometimes figures into it. Yeah hey yeah. I'd rather be lucky than good. That's great but we do see lots of companies lots of startups in in the unmanned aviation space And we also see lots of of the big legacy companies air framers and others. That are playing i. That's actually the bad not not a good word to use not playing. But they're you know making investments in this In this field engaging into the spectrum of unbanned system but sounds great that sounds better than playing crude systems on crude systems. Yes that's completely So john de typically when when you see a new industry i'll i'll call it growing like this and all these players you end up. Having a lot of consolidation and companies fall out others are survivors. Are we looking you. Think at the same kind of scenario here. I think we're in the middle of that Maybe we're a little farther along with the small drones than we are saving vitale's taxes. But you know. When i was at boeing next i mean. This was a scant cheese a year and a half ago you could count one hundred fifty companies that were building air taxi right underneath with close to a thousand no actually another consolidation started. Now you really down to about five. That are legitimate contenders and and they're the five that are getting you know massive capital investments through either or venture capital because that's what it takes to bring new airplane to market. Yes a massive amount of capital. Yes you know. I mean it's estimated that the seven eight seven program from start to finish. Now mind you. This isn't a clean. Sheet design like boeing building. Twin engined airliners for decades right so to bring that airplane to certification you know was measured in multiple billions of dollars by the most expert company in the world. Doing it right so to be a startup coming into making passenger-carrying airplane from scratch. Better have money in the bees. And i think a lot of those new entrance kind of started to learn that and see the scope of the problem and self selected out right. The small drones space. Oh can i use that term going forward self-selected because we've talked about like amazon. You know going into drones and for a while there. Google was going to go into drones and they sort of you sort of go. Why are you doing this. And then but they self selected out because they figure. I'm going thank you john. That was my. That's my new term for the mike you term for for bingo. Yeah there you go awesome. I don't know if you have enough squares on the bingo card for self selected. But maybe you're just a really advanced bingo group. it's awesome But yeah i think consolidations part of any industry. I think This is one of the reasons we have this thing called. The regulatory resource center in the business is that it. It can be daunting to be a new entrant into this highly regulated space and even know where to start. We've been doing this now for several years and like i referred to earlier. Regulatory team is top notch. So what we've done is we've said. Hey let's take some of these learnings. Let's put them on a website. Let's put the documentation the workflows on a website. So people can have a place to go start and then you know the ones that are serious than we offer. Our professional regulatory services are people in their time As kind of a consulting service to help them take the next steps if they don't have the capacity or the expertise to do it themselves and again. This all goes to bring more people to be able to do this. Work with those kinds of airplanes ultimately is going to build the market base that we need for for the products that were building so. The regulatory resource center is available for who Anybody that is considering either. Starting drone business drone business wants to start to pursue beyond visual line of sight flying Right now the only path to being able to fly beyond visual line of sight commercially is to get a waiver from the faa and that waiver is basically something that exempts you from the rules. Either part one. Oh seven or ninety one or part one. Thirty five to go do the operations so It's not an easy path. There's a lot of paperwork that has to be done. There's a lot of data that you asked to have to produce if you've never done it before it can be a lengthy and costly process to learn so we don't. We don't want our customers to have to go through that pain Want them to be future customers. So we're doing this to help them go faster early to get to that point it. How long ago was that established. Well we've been doing it kind of honestly for the last couple of years. We officially established it last year. we recognize. There's enough people now doing this. That we probably we can get some return out of the investment of of codifying and putting it together We're also building out a workflow kind of phased approach to helping people take incremental steps towards a bb loss waiver that starts with certainly get access to the regulatory resource center on the webpage But then they have a very small firm fixed price package that we call a sas which allows them to share with us what they want to go do. And then we give them an assessment back based on regulatory knowledge of the the gaps in their approach where they need to do to kind of fill in those gaps. So it's kind of like a coaching kinda thing is but you know there's a lot of people out there that just don't know where to start so that's what we're trying to do. Tastic will john. Where do people go to learn more about service automation or the regulatory research center. Yeah sure it's simple Dub dub dub that iris onboard dot com all one word. Oh my god. I know what he's going to say. Go ahead david on. You are the first person ever. Besides max flight. I've ever heard say dub dub dub we used to make finding those years to dub dub airplane geeks dot com. What the hexa dub dub dub congratulations john. You just validated max. After after twelve years of of say there's another one out there. okay folks. I cannot confirm or deny whether he sent me now. I am to use that or not so that out there. We'll just leave it out there. John damage thanks so much for coming on the show. It's been a fascinating conversation. We could probably go for another whole episode Maybe we'll have you back in the future if We haven't scared you away completely but we really want to thank you for speaking with us and with our audience yet max david thank you guys for the time and the honor to be bored. I think this is a blast and those close to me. And those who work with me know that i could probably continue to talk about these things for hours on our so your audience. Maybe this is a good time to stop and take a break. But i appreciate it and yeah anytime i'd be happy to come back on and talk some more so thank you guys very much. Thank you thank you. I hope you enjoyed listening to john. Damage talk about detecting avoid technology. Their website is iris on board dot com. That's i r. i s on board dot com hours. Of course is airplane. Geeks dot com. And if you want more drone talk visit. Uav digest dot com. Or if you can't remember that drone podcast dot com will get you there in. 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