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"Also listen to our travel with Rick Steves interview with David about the footsteps of St. Paul. It's in our show archives at Rick Steves dot com slash radial. Look for program number four 81. It's from April in 2017. David, watching your documentary on the footsteps of Peter, it really was clear that when you actually travel up to the Sea of Galilee, you can find artifacts that really sort of cause you to go back to a first century AD frame of mind. I mean, you can actually find, as you pointed out, lead weights and needles for mending the nets for the fishermen, and there's actually a boat from the first century that well worn boat with iron Staples holding it together and they call it the Jesus boat, right? Yeah, that was an extraordinary experience when I was making the program on some Peter to be shown this first century fishing boat. It was an extraordinary find, but it put the whole life of Peter and the apostles and their industry into perspective. This isn't a big boat by any means, and you can imagine by being in a boat like this when the storms that come over the sea Galilee and big waves. You can imagine them being absolutely terrified. They're not like great big fishing trawling boats of today. And just by looking at that boat and by being in a close vicinity to it, you really are taken back to the first century. And that is so grounding. It is interesting to look at it from a historical point of view, like capernaum is the place on the Sea of Galilee, where there was the most commerce. And that happened to be where the I think the Jordan River comes into the Sea of Galilee. And that would be where the water was most aerated where there would be the best fishing. And fishing was a big part of the industry. Talk a little bit more about the sightseeing you see around capernaum and what were some of the impactful sites that you saw. Well, the tourist sites are there for everybody to see, and I won't repeat all those. But what I will say is that the early Christians or the early followers of the way, they had to worship in secret, they were very, very persecuted in an area that was ruled by Rome and persecuted by their own, and so the beginnings of the group that were following this rabbi at the time that was preaching such a message that had nothing to do with the local Jewish belief. I mean, here was a man who was saying to his disciples and the poor, the first shall be last, and the last shall be first. This turned the whole worldview of Judaism on its head. So he was quite a revolutionary figure in his day, and that whole area of Galilee and as you walk around it, I think rather than any particular place. If I was saying to anybody, what to do there is obviously yes and go to the tourist sites. But once again I would find moments of peace just walking around the Lake or find somewhere, and just sit quietly, look, gaze and realize that you are there with them. Who was the tent maker of the apostles? That was pole, Paul. That was Paul, he was a tent maker, yeah, that's how he earned his living, and you can find yourself in nomadic communities where there are tent makers today with the same kind of black goat hair tempts. Yeah, that's right. But we got to remember with Paul that he was also one of his bigger assets was that he was also a Roman citizen and there was some theory that his family were perhaps slaves at Rome slaves. But yes, no, he was the tent maker and wherever he went on his travels he would set up his little tent making business. There are these sort of echoes of 2000 year ago economy and civilization, the goat hair tents, the fishermen on the Sea of Galilee, and so on. Getting back to the footsteps of Saint Peter, David, Peter died according to legend in Rome, it's conceivable he would have gone to Rome because this is before the Diaspora when the Romans destroyed the temple and the Jews dispersed all over the known world. I believe that was AD 70. So a couple decades before that, Peter could have gone to Rome because there was actually a Jewish community in Rome that predated the Diaspora, a business community, and that's where the ghetto is in Rome to this day. Tell us about Peter in Rome and what is the veracity of the fact that he was killed there and buried on the Vatican hill and on that cemetery was built St. Peter's Basilica. Well, if you go into the, I'm not quite sure how to pronounce it. I think it's called a chapel, the Santa Maria del popolo, the church there, you will see the most extraordinary painting by Caravaggio of Saint Peter being crucified upside down, and the theory is that he was crucified in Rome and chose not to be crucified the correct way up because that was the way Jesus was crucified so he was he chose to be crucified upside down. If you go and venture to the catacombs in Rome, you will see on a wall, images of Peter, with Paul, and prayers written to both of them on broken tiles. And that would suggest I'm told that Peter could have been buried in the catacombs, and then his ossuary which contained his bones was then later moved to where the Vatican is now. If I'm going to be perfectly honest and I feel that I can do no other. I'm not sure that Peter actually got to Rome because I feel and having read the New Testament in Paul's letters over and over and over and the acts of the apostles over and over and over. Nobody mentions Peter in Rome. Nobody mentions him at all. In fact, Peter just disappears from the acts of the apostles very suddenly and never comes back. We don't actually really know. There's lots of books as books called the bones of Saint Peter and lots of people have written to try and prove that he was there. And it could be the case, but I would like still further proof, because it's not there, Paul never mentions being with Peter in Rome, and you know, I wonder how this little fisherman Peter would feel walking into the Vatican now, called Saint Peter's. I wonder how he would look at that and how he would react. I'm not sure he would have the biggest smile on his face. A billion Roman Catholics loved the idea that Peter was. Yes, and you're not pointing I'm not pointing any fingers at the Catholics. It's just my personal belief that as much as I would like to believe that Peter was in Rome. I think he would have been documented as having gone there because Peter was perhaps with John, one of the very, very favorite disciples and because of that he would have been like a hero to his followers after Jesus Ascension. Also, it would have been big news if he was there. It would have been a big news for him to visit Rome, and there's none there's nothing. There's nothing in the acts of the apostle to say he ever went there. He just suddenly disappears, and what we know is that he wrote to people in Cappadocia, and that's why I went to the cave churches in Cappadocia in gorem, which had just amazing. We know that he wrote to the people in Cappadocia. You know, there's some indication that he wrote about Babylon in one of his letters and people say, well, that was Rome, but you know, I would like to see harder evidence. And if I did see harder evidence, I would applaud it and welcome it, but at the moment my own feeling is that Peter actually didn't get there. Was Babylon a code word for Rome? That's what they say. So it would have been if you're doing anything subversive within the Roman Empire, you wouldn't say something bad about Babylon to be a kind of a wink wink. We're talking about the empire. Yes, yes, absolutely. Of course, there's wonderful inspirational religious sites all over the eastern Mediterranean, but you call Jerusalem what you consider the most religious city anywhere. Let's just close our discussion here about the footsteps of Paul with an image in Jerusalem. What is it about Jerusalem that really takes you back and connects you with your faith? I think standing if you ever go to the Austrian hospice, which is right in the center of Jerusalem and on the actual via de la Russo, where they say that Jesus walked to the cross. If you go into the Austrian hospice and you stand at the very top on its roof, and look around that city, and you'll see the Dome of The Rock, and you'll see different churches and you are aware that this city was fought over, people died for it. There were the crusades. It Islam came and took it from the crusaders, and there is so much blood on that soil that ironically is the religious capital of the world. In the skyline is a commotion of crosses and crescents reminding people that it's such a holy place for Christians, Muslims and Jews alike. And yet it's the place famous for the greatest hostilities. Even today, so poignant and so inspiring to actually go and travel there and I'd encourage anybody who's curious to not wait for things to settle down. I mean, if you're not do that, it's never going to happen. If you want to go to Israel and the Holy Land, do it now, it's perfectly safe from thousands and thousands of people who go there and I highly recommend if you do go to Israel to make sure you cross the wall and go to the West Bank of Palestine as well as Israel and you're both narratives and recognize there's a lot of powerful biblical sites on the Palestine side of the wall as well as in Jerusalem and up in Galilee. Absolutely. Bethlehem. Bethlehem, isn't it interesting to think that Bethlehem, which is in Palestine, you could bicycles from Bethlehem where people believe Jesus was born to Jerusalem where they believe he was crucified. You could bike there in half an hour. But there's a wall that makes it a world apart today. Yeah, it's a sad sad thing that going into Bethlehem and coming out of Bethlehem you have to go through border patrol guards. It's a very, very different world, but close your eyes for one second when you're doing that, and imagine that, to be instead of Israeli guards, Roman gods. Wow. Spoken like a person who's been there and a person who's been there in a very thoughtful way. David suchet, thank you for all of your work and thank you so much for joining us. Thank you. It's been such a pleasure. Travel with Rick Steves is produced by Tim tapton, casm or a hall and Dada bardsley at Rick Steves Europe in Edmonds Washington. 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"Actor David suchet traveled to Israel to understand the world Saint Peter lived in. He shares what he discovered next on travel with Rick Steves. Simon bar Jonah made his living fishing on the Sea of Galilee in the first century. His encounter with Jesus would change everything. The man who came to be known as Simon Peter and would later be honored as Saint Peter has held a special interest for British actor David suchet. A few years ago, David wanted to understand the world Peter lived in and how it influenced the beginnings of Christianity, so he took a BBC film crew to Israel to produce a travel documentary called in the footsteps of Saint Peter as a follow-up to his well received special in the footsteps of St. Paul. David, it's good to have you back on travel with Rick Steves. It's such a pleasure. David, I really liked what you did with your documentaries. Now, Paul traveled all over the Mediterranean to take the gospel to the gentiles. Where did you go to follow the life of Saint Peter? I think the first place to start would be Galilee because Peter had a rather entrepreneurial fishing business with James and John, a lot of people think that Peter might have been very, very poor. I have a feeling that he was doing quite well, really, with his fishing business on the lakes of Galilee, and in fact, when Jesus called James and John to follow him, and they immediately it says in the Bible just let their nets go and followed him. They were leaving quite a big business behind them, so something extraordinary happened. Saint Peter was with Jesus and chosen by Jesus as one of his 12 apostles. And he followed Jesus all around Jesus teaching in Galilee and when we go further north to a place called banias in Israel. Now what was wonderful in this place is he turned round to his 12 and he said, who do people say that I am? Now the reason he did that was because this place in the walls of The Rock all around you, a little temples to pagan gods, and there are little slabs where they would sacrifice goats and sheep and things like that. Jesus took them there and asked them. Not only who do people say that I am, but who do you say that I am? In comparison to all these other pagan gods, and it was Peter, who confessed wahoo he thought Jesus was, but he said, you are the Christ, the son of the living God. And Jesus said, virtually. Yes, I am. And then he said to Peter, of course, and it's on this rock, you are Peter. The Rock that's his name, Peter The Rock, and on this rock I build my church. And you see that in the dome under towering a hundred meters over where Peter is buried, it says you are Peter and upon this rock I will build my church. I've been my church. I have a slightly different take as a child of the reformation. I personally wish I could have been there because I'd love to know what Jesus did with his hands when he said on this rock, I build my church. Where was he pointing? Was he pointing at Peter? Was he pointing at The Rock around him? Or was he pointing at him? I personally feel. And there will be millions of Christians who will disagree with me. That's okay. I personally feel that by pointing his finger to Peter. Where he would have been pointing his finger to a man that was actually failing him all the time. He could have been meaning Peter's confession that he was the Christ, but I personally feel that he was pointing to himself upon yes, Peter, you've got that right and upon this rock meet. The Christ. And the message that he was bringing. Yes, and therefore him himself Christ was The Rock. So David as a Christian going to these sites in the Holy Land. I remember sitting on the Sea of Galilee with my Jewish guide reading from the Bible, and I've never really enjoyed hearing the Bible red as much as when I was right there on the Sea of Galilee. Rick, what you've just described is exactly what anybody any believer going to Israel going to Galilee will feel and they call it visiting and moving in the places where Jesus walked. They actually call it the 5th gospel. Because it gives you such a credibility that you can not you can not access just from the written word, but by standing there by walking wedges walked and you hear him using nature, like the lilies and the reeds and you're walking there and it just comes alive in a way that the written word doesn't. And you're standing, you can take a boat and go on to the Sea of Galilee and you can look and I remember my wife Sheila, nudging me and said, look, look at that view, David, and I said, well, yes, it's beautiful. Now she said no, that view wouldn't have changed. In 2000 years and Peter and Jesus and all his disciples on the Sea of Galilee would have looked maybe at that same view. And this really was so exciting. I can not tell you by being in the area by being in that in Galilee and where Jesus actually taught it really is. It's a solidifies your faith. You know, there's a gorgeous church in a garden on amount. I think it's called the church of the beatitudes where Jesus preached the sermon on the mount, and I was there with a bunch of African Christians who were singing. And I'm thinking you mentioned the 5th gospel being right there on those holy stones. And then Luther liked to say he who sings praise double. I think you're so right, because even in Jerusalem, my favorite church in Jerusalem is the Church of Saint Anne's, actually, and they have the most wonderful acoustics there, and if anybody is going there and you can just sit in the seats in the pews, because every group of Christian, you know that tour groups or whatever that come into that church, they go into either a deliberate song, or spontaneous song, and when it spontaneous, and those acoustics are famous for this, the sound is just spine tingling. And as you said in the church of the beatitudes up in the Galilee, exactly the.
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"And poems. And also animals. She was a patron saint of animals as well. This is travel with Rick Steves. We're talking Irish saints with two Irish tour guides, Kathy Ryan, from county louth, and Stephen with felony from dingle Peninsula. When I think about Ireland, I think of a heroic struggle against the English, a lot of great patriots were martyred in the struggling against the English, are some of them considered saints. Yeah, we've had saints who were martyred in the 1600s when the English would come in. These were mostly priests and bishops who refused to accept the rule of the Church of England, so they were executed and then they have been since been beatified by the Catholic Church official. Officially. Okay, so Rome embraced the importance of this. And the most famous are my favorite and we have sent Oliver plunkett associated with the town of drogheda, and sent Oliver plunket was a great man, but he was sort of framed and set up and convicted of treason, and he was taken to the Tower of London where he was hung drod and quartered, and his head was chopped off and thrown into a fire with the head never burned. It never decayed in the head is now in a glass box in Saint Peter's cathedral in the Main Street Andrade. It's in a big gold box. There's an ornamentation on the box that must be 25 feet tall. They have DNA tested this head and they've done tests with local people who would be as descendants so we can see if we say it is his head. And it's also you just look at him, but he was made a scene. That's an extraordinary sense. So you're driving north of Dublin and that's quite a remarkable little side trip as you head further north. Absolutely beautiful. If they call it the emerald valley and it's the gateway to the north, continue on up the highway and then stop at Fahrenheit. Which is the birthplace of saint Bridget, and her healing stones are there, which predate the oracle at Delphi, and there's healing stones for the eyes, for the mind, whether it's mental illness or whether you're suffering from depression or headaches. She has a knee stones, a heart stone, fertility stone. It's an extraordinary place to visit. We're talking 500 BC. Yes. Talking a long time ago. Long time. And then when you're finished there, if you want, you can continue on up the road to a time called down Patrick, where there's a three for one special waiting for you. In the graveyard in the graveyard of the church there, you have Saint Patrick, saint brigid and saint Columba all buried in the wonton. Come together. Oh my goodness. And eternal party. Yeah, just to make that point saint Columba is also called saint column kill and no discussion about Irish scenes would be complete without mentioning that great man as well because he was the man who brought Christianity to Scotland, you see. From Ireland. From Ireland and he's also supposed to have killed the Loch Ness monster. He's a double hero. Double here. And he was a great copyist. He inspired the copiers of the monasteries to do the books like the book of castle. This was the great art of the dark ages of the 8th and 9th century that area. You talk about the history like you lived it. It's amazing how close people in a place like Ireland are to their heritage. To be able to dip into that in your travels, brings your travels to life. And of course, as a tour guide, that's your profession to share that with all the people who visit your country so they can be inspired by the rich heritage and history that's all around when you travel. Steven mcfarlane,.
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"The glory Holly loose. Hollywood. Through my eyes me the love I leave. A joke Kathy, that's beautiful. So what essentially were you saying to translate that into English? And Jesus, you are my love and I adore you. So it really is praise music that goes from a literature from medieval times. Yes, from a poem to 20th century music. And where would you sing, where would you find us a tour guide? You would sing that in which I would have a sacred place. I would sing it in if I was in Glendale on saint Kevin's church just to be standing in it. It's extraordinary, maybe gallerist oratory in dingle, one of the great antiquities. These are religious stone buildings that go back to what people consider the dark ages in Europe. The 500 to 1000 period. Yes, and to signal a song it takes you out of the site. This has traveled with Rick Steves, we're talking with Stephen and Kathy Ryan, who just blessed us with her beautiful voice. You know, when we think about Ireland, you gotta think about Saint Patrick. Stephen, who was he? Well, Saint Patrick is a very interesting figure because there's many arguments that he was this or that or this person or this person and he may not even have existed. General historical belief is that he was a man called Patricia, who was a Roman citizen who lived somewhere in the north of England or maybe north of Wales, the narrative goals that he was kidnapped by Irish raiders because the army used to read, ironically, used to attack Britain a lot back in those days, and we would carry off slaves, slaves were a big part of Celtic culture and Celtic societies that would be brought back and he would work in Saint Patrick was brought back to work as a shepherd boy for I think 7 years or something open. And this is Roman Britain, but the Romans never went to Ireland, so you would raid into the Roman zone. The Barbarians going into the coming into England and capture some young civilized Christian Roman Britain. Like Saint Patrick's father had been a priest in the early Christian church, we think. And so he came as a shepherd boy, God appeared to him in a dream and told him to go to the coast where a boat would be waiting for him to take him off and then he should go there and become a priest in the early church. And he should learn more about Christianity, and he did that. He went back to live with the people in his home village, but he was having nightmares and in these nightmares, the people of Ireland were burning as a metaphor for them burning in the fires of hell. So I've always came to him in his dream and said, we ask you, boy, come and walk once more amongst us. So that was his call to go back to the Irish and convert us from Christianity to Ireland. Yeah, that's the general belief. But that's about in the year 500 or something like this. Yeah, this is four 32 AD. Four 32. And to this day, Saint Patrick's pretty big deal in Ireland, but the Saint Patrick's Day is in some ways bigger in the United States, isn't it? Yeah, it's a big old growing up in Ireland though it was always big. It just wasn't this big drinking fast that it is in America and Australia and Britain, which I think is unfortunate, but we were growing up like there was a military parade sometimes and there'd be the local sports teams would march and they'd always go to mass in the morning and maybe some of the older man would go off for drinks, but it would not. It was a holy day. Yeah. It was the holy day. Saint Patrick used the shamrock to illustrate the Trinity, right? The three leaps on the camera. Yeah, that's right. But his mountain is venerated. It's a pilgrimage site in county Mayo and Murray. They are a huge day in the summertime reek, the mountain Sunday, and you begin in the evening, sort of an unholy to the Celtic lore that the day starts in the night. And you begin your trek up that mountain, and you do your pilgrimage, you do the stations, and then many people take off their shoes and climb that shade, huge cairn at the top, barefoot. I've heard about that barefoot climb, and it's near Westport. This happens every year at the same time when I said. Last Sunday in July. Last Sunday in July. Near Westport, near Westport, and a cool walk if anybody's ever gone by. And they're just stop the car and go up. You probably get up there. I've done it probably 15 times. You've done it. Oh, any time when you're driving up. Have you ever done the action foot? I did a barefoot once, but it was just taking me so long that I just had to put the shots back. I think that's fine. I would do it in shoes. That's what I would recommend. It feels like a pilgrimage. You don't have to be Catholic. What about saint Bridget? I love her. I love the energy of Bridget, and I love that in saint Bridget you get such an interweave of the goddess Bridget that is hard to tell them apart. You can't pull the strands. You mean goddess Bridget being a Celtic goddess who's there before the corporate ever was. Okay, there's another example of the indigenous religion being grafted into the new religion. Exactly. And her feast day is on the 1st of February and in honor of the celts, it celebrated beginning the night before. I think it's important to say one of the reasons I think anyway saints are so important to the Irish is because of the penal laws, is because they couldn't always celebrate their mass in community. So God and Mary the saints became very intimate companions. So the penalized her listeners understand and me too when the English overlords wanted to crush the indigenous culture, which was Catholic also. They said you can not do this. Is that right? You can't go to mass. You can't speak your language. But you can't be educated. It's like the Scottish people couldn't wear kilts and play the bagpipes. I think the harp in Ireland was suddenly not okay. Right. No music was not okay. People always applied to all of the United Kingdom, not just Ireland that implied in Scotland and Wales as well, but in Ireland was the only real Catholic nation of the four I mentioned there, so it was most felt there. Do I understand that some Irish saints are not beatified by the Vatican, they're just Irish initiatives? I imagine the vast majority aren't because they're from an early Celtic church before it became linked in with Roman Catholicism. When they got it all organized and orderly and changed everything. But that never stopped the Irish. You know, we're very tribal, and we know who we love and who we want to venerate. But part of your heritage also have never been conquered by the Romans. I'm quite sure that's huge. But let me just, if you don't mind, I'd love to just get back to Bridget because she's the patroness of so many things, stemming from fertility, going to creativity and then transformation, taking disparate things and turning them into something living or long-lasting. So she's the patroness of blacksmiths, of midwives, of poets, and I love that great poet of the druids would go through the town with an apple branch and little bells on it to let the people know in honor of Bridget that he was coming back to sing them back to themselves. I love that. Long-lasting things, blacksmiths, midwives,.
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"Theology or it's really specific to Ireland. So that's an indigenous and it can be incorporated into the more modern Christianity, but it was there before. It was the compost pile from which the Irish exactly and the celts saw some purification in the water that was in these wells, so then when we became Christian, we still wanted to go to the Wales, so they just became Saint Patrick's wells or some bridges wealth. If ever you want to conquer a country religiously, you incorporate the co op. I mean, Christmas was on a pagan holiday. That's December 25th. And Easter would have been something similar. Halloween was the Celtic new year. There you go. And they're all of those wells and those sacred places. They were always venerated because they had this resonance. They were the thin places, where the veil between this world and the otherworld is very thin. Thin places have never thought of that. That's very cool. And you can feel it. I remember getting dragged off to a holy well when I was probably tanned by my mother because I had a veruca or a planters wart on my foot, so we traveled along distance so that I could get my foot dipped into the well and cured by the whale. Though it did get cured, but was it the spiritual healing powers of the well or I don't know. I believe. It's certainly a factor. And your mother did this. Took you'd found long drive to take care of a wart by dropping it in a holy well. Yeah, and this is a university educated woman. Yeah, you know, who brought me all that way to belief in it. So yeah, as a result, I am Kathy and we all grow up with that respect for it as well. Right. I just took a friend to a healer in county loud where I live. She got a burn on her foot. I was on the way to E and R and a friend of mine said, what? You have to bring her to shame us. He's on the road to green or don't be taken her into the hospital, and he saw her three times, and he healed her foot, and her foot was boiling water fell on it, she took the sock off, took the skin off, and in three days she was at Heathrow Airport with a pair of shoes on walking around. So there are still healers. I bet that's an interesting challenge for the priests and so on to try to respect these. Oh, they'd go to them as well. Inclusiveness. Let's say it's inclusivity. Yes. It's travel with Rick Steves and singer Kathy Ryan and tour guide Steven mcphillamy are helping us get to know the saints of Ireland and their importance to Irish identity today. So the Irish have a an enthusiasm for saints and for their faith and I know both of you love music. Does it show itself in traditional music? Because that's such an important part of the Irish culture. A lot of the songs, a lot of the spiritual religious songs would have been wiped out because of the penal laws with 1600s to 1800s. There's not a lot of them extant, but a lot of the poetry was and it's been put to music. There are still some old songs, like the Keenan imaginal lament of Mary or the kinana tree water, the lament of the three marys, and the lyrics are absolutely beautiful. 25 versus long, but there's not many of them. So that's a lament that survived the English trying to put down the culture. And it was sung as sort of almost a statement that we're not going to be put down and kept alive in the popular culture through the pubs and in the families when they gather. And the families that holidays and certainly many more in Steven can attest to this as well, many more songs were written during the time in a pub if you went. Probably not so much on a Sunday maybe. You'd be very reverent about a song like that. You wouldn't just sing it anywhere in just a little bit of one with so we can hear the lyrics and the beautiful melody. Passing this one, this has been put to music by Liam Lawton, and it's a 12th century text. It's called McGrath a year, and I sing this at sacred sites in Ireland when I'm there because I think a lot of them need to be.
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"Today. This is travel with Rick Steves. We're talking saints of France with julissa Vogue and Patrick Vidal. Our phone numbers 877-333-7425 and Williams calling from Miami. William, thanks for your call. You have a thought about saints and France. Last time I visited Paris, I tend to stop in churches, but I was after I went to the Pantheon. I stopped in a church nearby called saint Etienne Dumont. And I noticed that it would have originally had the remains of the patron saint of Paris saint genevieve. But I don't remember if I read in a guidebook or there was a plaque here, but I understand that during the revolution they had ransacked the church, they'd taken our body and burned it and throw it in the same. I noticed that there weren't many reliquaries in the churches of Paris. Is this why? Because they were destroyed during the revolution? Well, that's most of the reason ballot, but very often a lot of places to be conveniently found them again after the revolution. So conveniently they find these relics. Yes, I mean, not everywhere, but because it helps bring money to that church. It brings money. I mean, it was not doing that anymore in the 19th century, but still it was an important part of the world and the 250 years ago during the French Revolution, whatever the late 1700s, you would have the French Revolution, which was sort of anti church come in and turn these churches. Throw out the Christianity and turn it into an intellectual temple of reason. And of course, these relics made no sense at all. We're going to talk about the sensation of the champagne was a story with the grain after that movement. We get the swing of the pendulum back and the balloons coming on is the church on. In the relic was probably burned or destroyed, but they find a new one. They found a new miraculously. Faith, you know, in France, there are so many churches that burned down and then in the ashes they find a veil. With the image of Jesus or something, and then the pilgrims start to come. And more pilgrims start to come and they get plenty of money and they can build a new church bigger and better than ever. And medieval time work free heads of central and the baptista around Europe. There you go. Thanks for your call, William. Thank you very much. You guys have a good day. Take care. It seems there's a favorite saint or two for nearly every town in France. We're learning about a few of the national favorites right now on travel with Rick Steves from French tour guides, julissa and Vogue and Patrick Vidal. You know, a big, big destination in France is lords, and when you have a pilgrimage site, usually there is an what do you call it an apparition where the devout people in that town see something coming down from heaven? Bernadette is a big, big popular destination for pilgrims. What do we know about lords and saint bernadette? Well, she was as long as I remember. She was a farmer. And she saw the virgin Mary a couple of times. In a cave, just on the outskirt of lord. As usual, it was not very easy to recognize the miracle and it took a little bit of time to be recognized, but since then, lord has become one of the massive pilgrimage place. The water is supposed to be Holly water. In a miraculous healing miracle. And whatever you think about the original event, it is an amazing display of faith and people do go there and try and loads of people go down. I've been there a couple of times and it is just an amazing spectacle. And people come there and throw away their crutches, you know? It's quite a special. So that is lords in the Pyrenees mountains in the South of France. And the last saint I just want to touch on is famous for a little striking Abbey, build it big and they will come on an island off of the coast of Normandy in Brittany. Saint Michael's mouth. Michael, yeah. What's about saint Michael? But first of all, saint Michael is supposed to be waiting for you on a day or the last judgment and he's taking you on your way to heaven or hell if you're in trouble. But he's always at the top. Right. Last stop. Anything would be off for saint Michael is on top of the hill somewhere. Or is that right? Yeah. So here's your last stop before heaven. Well, and that is your quintessential Abby on a hilltop is Mont-Saint-Michel at Stanton's striking mountain in the middle of this vast tidal flat. Right, with a golden archangel Michael on top. It's quite stirring. Mont-Saint-Michel. Yeah, so if you come to San Michael, you were to climb. Patrick widow, Mercedes. Bless you. Like any good actor trying to understand a character, David suchet went to Israel with a film crew to see what he could learn about the first century world Saint Peter lived in. Here what he discovered in just a bit on today's travel with Rick Steves. But first, Irish tour guide Stephen McFly returns along with Kathy Ryan to tell us what they've discovered about some of Ireland's favorite saints. When you spend time with the Irish, you find that many of the national saints of Ireland remain very much alive in their hearts. Hundreds of saints are recognized for helping establish the Gaelic church in its early centuries, even spreading the Christian faith to Britain. They now serve as patrons for different professions, places and special circumstances. Irish monks are credited with saving western civilization during Europe's dark ages. And a group of martyrs were beatified by John Paul the second for defending their religion against the cruelties of English rulers back in the 16th and 17th centuries. For a look at how the Irish revere their saints and scholars were joined by Stephen. He was raised Catholic in Northern Ireland and now lives in dingle in the south. And Kathy Ryan is a musician who sings about the traditions of Ireland. She was born to Irish immigrants in Detroit, and has now made her own home in Ireland's county lauth. Steven Cathy, welcome. Thanks, Rick. Thanks for having us. Ireland is known as the land of saints and scholars. Kathy why is that? When Patrick and the bishops before him who we never hear about came to Ireland, they came to a country that was inhabited by druids and pagans and they brought Christianity with them, and they also brought the love of the Bible, literature, story, and they wanted to write it. I mean, they understood the importance of capturing it, not just orally, but making it permanent, unchangeable. And saints and scholars is relative to the rest of Europe, which was in the dark ages at the time. Exactly. So you have that bright light of faith and literacy. In Ireland. Absolutely. And they really loved story, and they loved the adoration of God, and spirit something transcendent, which I think is very, very Celtic. It's very Irish. Like you said, they love story. And that was 1500 years ago. And today, Ireland loves stories. And hasn't changed. Now, Stephen McFly, Ireland is Catholic as can be, whether people go to church or not. It just seems like it's a Catholic land. Why is Ireland so Catholic, whereas England might not be so definitively Catholic. Of course, when the reformation came, our choice was to stay Catholic for spiritual reasons, but also for political reasons and pride reasons. The English were also conquering us at the same time. Okay, so Henry dissolved all the Catholic monasteries and everything in England in Ireland bucked that, and we remained loyal and steadfast to the Vatican, and of course, to have changed at that time would also have been seen to be loyal to the new invaders coming in. So there may be a patriotic aspect to it as well. When you think about traveling in Ireland, there's this fascination or this enjoyment of medieval fairies and sacred forts and holy wells and so on. Is that indigenous? Does that go back before Christianity came to Ireland? I believe it did. 100%. And I mean, I think that's what yeats, the whole Celtic revival was using was magnetized to. They wanted the Irish to understand in the world to understand that the Irish had this mystical level, this transcendent level. They weren't part of the industrial revolution that that was their magic. That was what made them special and different. Yeah, and our whole culture of the holy whales. I mean, I don't recall seeing that anywhere in.
Travel with Rick Steves
"david suchet" Discussed on Travel with Rick Steves
"When the Irish state the saints preserve us, they're also sustaining a bit of their pre Christian Celtic history. Ah, I love her just. I love the energy of Bridget and I love that in saint Bridget you get such an interweave of the goddess Bridget that is hard to tell them apart. You can't pull the strands. The saints, the French revere like Joan of Arc often have a political sight to them. The fighter thing is that the most thing she's associated with is she kicked the English out of France. And here how the actor who played detective poirot on TV investigated the biblical account of Saint Peter. How it did a simple fisherman end up being remembered as the first Pope, David suchet recommends visiting places mentioned in the Bible to better understand the first century world. And they call it visiting and moving in the places where Jesus walked. They actually call it the 5th gospel. The footsteps of Saint Peter and the favorite saints of Ireland and France, it's all just a hit on today's travel with Rick Steves. Understanding of countries religious heritage can really help you appreciate what you'll encounter as a sightseer. Or even as a modern day pilgrim to sacred sites around the world. Coming up on today's Easter edition of travel with Rick Steves, we'll learn how some of Ireland's favorite saints have identities that actually predate the arrival of Saint Patrick. And later in the hour, David suchet investigates the first century world of a Galilean fisherman who would become known to the world as Saint Peter. The Catholic heritage of France is filled with the stories of saints, men and women whose stories of their faith often included dramatic sacrifice. And sometimes they got into political scrapes as well. To help us understand the importance of the saints in the history of France were joined now by tour guides Patrick Vidal and julissa vaux, who live in Brittany and burgundy. They take your calls and a bit at 877-333-7425. Thanks for joining us. And Eric bonjour. Now we don't have anybody in America quite like Joan of Arc. When I go to Paris, there must be a dozen statues of Joan of Arc, just around Paris. You see Joan of Arc so much in France. She's a Christian figure, but she's also a French figure. So I mean, think of that when you think of statues of Joan of Arc, when were they made those statues? Have you seen any medieval statue of Joan of Arc? No. Never. Yes. She was colonized in 1920. Wow, only. She's a used up figure that she's used for to rally the French. Two regular French, before the First World War after the collapse of the empire in 1871. So Joan of Arc was used as a unification rally the troops in World War I. One of the most known statue of genova in France in Paris is on top of the sacre coeur on top of montmartre, with St. Louis, and that's a church which was finished in 1919. So that's exactly the same period. Now, historically, why would she be tied to the challenge that the World War I presented France in 1914? What did she do? The funny thing is that the most thing she's associated with is she kicked the English out of France. She kicked the English out of the boot that is only all the false. And this is the time when we need England's help to kick the Germans out of France. That's a shortcut. But she goes back to it was the Hundred Years' War, right? But it's interesting because she didn't kick the English out of France at all. She was captured by the story behind is that the French kingdom collapsed to a very very small amount of land that king of France was not very powerful anymore. What century is this? We're talking about 14 in the beginning of 1400s. And there is an existential problem, a threat to France now. England has taken most. England has taken most of France the south sea is used by the, which is a very, very strong family, which is when most of the South of France. And eastern part of France run by the burgundians. And then there's this young charismatic woman who dressed like a man who rose up to lead the army. Absolutely. She comes to me. Long story short. Let's make a long story short. That's fine. She came to meet the king in this royal fortress in chinon and she tells him that we need to lead you to reconquer your kingdom. She takes him to harsh ways coronated as the official king because he never happened before, they didn't have the strength for that. And she's captured by the burgundian under the wall of Paris. Burgundian don't know what to do with her, so they sell her to the British. What putting it to the trial as a witch and burn her on the stake in what city. And that's very easy to visit just a couple hours west of Paris, Rouen. And Julie, when you go to Rome, how can you sightsee with Joan of Arc in mind? Well, Joan of Arc you can see her everywhere because she started out. She was born and raised in the east and she had to march all the way across to the west to meet the king, and then march him all the way back to the east to get him crowned in hunts. So in every little town in the north of France, you see Joan of Arc pass by here. She's burned at the stake, and she disappears from his story. Because nobody's interested in her. She's part of his story as in all the character, but she's nothing special. Right. And she becomes something special only at the end of the 19th century when France is looking for characters to unify the French and get a strong character to get the power back. She was canonized in 1920. Let's talk about another saint woolen counter in France, St. Louis, St. Louis. The only French king who was canonized because the only one. What is so important about St. Louis, Julie? Well, he in 1239, when he is the king, he wants to make Paris as important as Rome, religiously, his grandfather had done an architecturally by building the walls around Paris, and he wants to make Paris the most important city on the map, and so what he does is he goes to Constantinople and gets a major relic and brings it back to Paris. And builds a reliquary for it, which becomes a chapel the saint chapelle. Gorilla is a fancy jewel box. Right. But this is actually like a church. It's functions as the reliquary for instance. It has so many stained glass windows in it kind of representing the jewels on the jewel box. So when you go into the sun Chappelle, you're stepping into the most glorious gothic space, I think, in Europe, it was all built to house The Crown of thorns. Yeah, it was purpose built for The Crown sonnets, so interesting because it's a very homogeneous church style wise. But it was built in four four to 6 years. We don't know exactly, but four two 6 the amazing thing is Notre-Dame was built over 200 years or so. Thank you. This was built by one architect, finished exactly the way it was started, and that means it has that cohesiveness. Absolutely. I understand St. Louis could just take little individual thorns off of that thing. And then left. For favors. Does it actually exist to this day? Yes, it's in the treasury of Notre-Dame. All right. They bring him out every first Friday of the month. St. Louis. This is travel with Rick Steves. We're talking about French saints with Patrick Vidal and Julie sanville. Another saint we encounter in Paris especially saint Dennis. He's the guy who's holding his head in his hands. What's the story there, Patrick? By the story, he was a Robin bishop, and he was, it was trialled by the Roman. So 2000 years ago, he was the Roman Christian in Paris. He was in Paris, he was the bishop, and he was arrested. This is after Rome became Christian, so you can have a it was no, it was before that. It was when it was not official. So that's why he got in. A lot of them blondin in Lyon, like with a lot of different signs around him in Maori around the place before the beginning of the 300s. If you were a Christian at the end of the film, you were married if you don't know the Christian. Okay, so his timing was off. Yeah, exactly. What happened to him? How was he murdered? So it was created at the fit of the hill of montmartre. He had partly picked up his head, walked up the hill, washed his head under the fountain of there and kept walking on the other side and walked a couple of miles and collapsed and where he collapsed they buried him and built this big church where all the king of France are buried since named after him. So that's a suburb of Paris.
Miss Information: A Trivia Podcast
"david suchet" Discussed on Miss Information: A Trivia Podcast
"Number ten, I don't know if you know this, but there was another the mummy movie made in 2017 starring Tom Cruise and inexplicably this adorable comic actor who played Nick in new girl. Who is this actor? We'll give you a minute to think about it and we'll be back with your answers. I got a couple of coin flips. Okay. We'll see how this goes. Okay, great, I love it. All right, you ready? Yes. Here we go. The Agatha Christie novel Death on the Nile tells the tale of a dead body on a cruise ship on you guessed it, the Nile River, which of Christie's popular detectives is the protagonist in this tale. It's gotta be era. It is equivalent. There's no way miss marples. You know the Nile. She wouldn't get on a boat, although she was very adventurous. For her, you know, for her for her type. Next year, a new movie of it is coming out, directed by and shock of shock starring Kenneth Branagh. I don't recognize Kenneth Branagh as an appropriate haircut. It will always be David suchet to me, but whatever. So be it. So be it. Also his mustache is all wrong. It needs to be like a tiny, curly mustache. It can't be like this giant floofy thing, whatever. Question number two, the movie Cleopatra starring the stunning and incomparable Elizabeth Taylor came out in 1963, where it was the most expensive movie ever made at the time. She also met and began a love affair with her costar and later married him. Who was this dashingly handsome actor who she would go on to have a very toward relationship with? This is Richard Burton. It is Richard Burton. They were famously married twice. But did you know the Egyptian government originally banned Elizabeth Taylor from entering Egypt because she was Jewish? I don't remember hearing that. I did not hear about that. They later changed their minds when they realized the film would pour millions of dollars into the economy. Yeah. Incidentally, side related. I have stumbled upon a podcast recommendation. There's one called even the rich. It's on the wondering network. So it's with brook Efron and arisha skidmore Williams. And they did a four episode arc on Elizabeth Taylor and it was wonderful. I learned so much. Oh man. So they've covered like various members of the Kennedy family in various members of the royal family. I just wrapped up the four episodes on Madonna. And so, oh my God. It's really awesome. So I definitely recommend that I'll listen. But yeah, there are four episodes on Elizabeth Taylor, are terrific. Oh, okay. I'm definitely checking that out because I love that shit. All right, cool. What was the name of the podcast again? Even the rich, even the rich. Okay, cool. Thank you. All right, question number three. The ten commandments is a 1956 epic featuring ancient Egypt and a cast of literally thousands. We all know the infamous Charlton Heston played Moses, but what bald actor played the pharaoh, who also played a different king in a different movie the same year. This is another person that I waiver between thinking that they aren't real. And that it's a character's name and not their name. But you'll bring her. It is your brainer. The movie that I'm referring to, he played the king in the king of the united eye. Yeah. Yeah. He played the king in the king and I on Broadway, his entire life. He literally was playing the king on Broadway like three days before he died. He made this his life. He also wasn't naturally bald. He shaved his head bald? Yeah, also he was Russian? Did you know this? I think I knew he was Russian. Yeah. Yeah, I had no idea. I just assumed, I guess he just assumed he was like Middle Eastern or something like that. But yeah, he was Russian. Anyway. Apparently just not great to women. Oh, not a great, not great to his many wives. Just FYI about that. All right, question number four about someone who's definitely good to his wife. The scorpion king is a 2002 sword in sand epic starring our fave guy Dwayne The Rock Johnson in his first starring role. However, I am asking about the titular king. True or false, there was actually a scorpion king in ancient Egypt. I'm going to say false. It is true. His name was literally king scorpion, and he ruled during the protodynastic period of upper Egypt from around 3200 to 3000 BCE. By the way, the term pharaoh was not incorporated into ancient Egyptian like culture until much later. So they were referred to as ruler or king of a very long time. Yeah. Question number 5, the 1999 film the mummy was based on a 1932 pre code film of the same name. While maybe not as famous as Brendan Fraser, the 1932 film starred a big name in horror who loved getting into makeup. What creepy actor am I talking about? See, this is another coin flip. I think I will say lawn Cheney. It's Boris Carl. Yeah. Boris Karloff was the youngest of 9 children born in 1887 in England and has given name was William Pratt. Yeah. We talked about this about Halloween episode level. Yeah. His name is just oh, Bill Pratt. Yeah. And he took the name Boris Karloff 'cause he thought that his brothers who they I guess were like in the kind of like upper ups of British society or whatever. Shame them by he didn't want to shame the prat name. So he changed his name to Boris Karloff. Oh, he never actually legally changed his name ever. So when he would sign documents, not he would sign documents William Pratt, AKA Boris brawl off in quotes. That's cute. All right, question number 6, the 2016 film gods of Egypt was probably something you didn't see, because it was terrible and no one saw it, and it was a box office bomb. It started incredible cast of known stars, though, including Chadwick Boseman, Jeffrey rush and Gerard Butler. Geoffrey rush and I have the same birthday, by the way. Congrats. Thank you. Because it's so much in common. We do. We both are Australian. We're both elderly men. It's just amazing. The miserable director of this film, Alex proas hasn't made a feature film sense, but he is best known for an ill fated 1994 film starring Brandon Lee. What is this movie? I believe that's the crow. It is the crow. If you don't know already, Brandon Lee, son of Bruce Lee, was accidentally shot on set and died after a mishap with the prop guns. It's like such a freak accident. Yeah, somebody accidentally put a real bullet in the chamber instead of blank. Apparently it was like it was a it wasn't a real bullet. It was some other thing that they use. That's still like a prop thing, but I got stuck in the chamber and they thought it had been discharged. So when they fired when they put the blank in and the blank fired, it projected this thing. Into his body at the same rate of speed in the same density as a real bullet would be. And they shot him in the stomach. It was awful. What a terrible way to go. Okay. Question. Question number 7. This popular French Belgian comic book character with a giant blond mustache and wings on his head made a movie where he met Cleopatra, which makes sense because he and his friends are goal warriors who have adventures in and around Ancient Rome during the time of Julius Caesar..
Talking Sopranos
"david suchet" Discussed on Talking Sopranos
"High. Have you ever gone to a gave a leather and danced never in leather. Have you danced What a man. Not in a gay bar. But i do dance. I think you know as a joke with a guy or someone bar. I don't know maybe i but Victorian i used to once in a while ago. There was some gay bars. We used to go in the village to dance. Sometimes i've been to take the big gave in vegas at the time was gypsy. The jibs name we went to we used to go to dance at The monster which is still there on sheridan square. Where else do we go. Let me some of the discos warned exclusively gay but they were. You know some big ones where we used to go dancing. But a lotta times. We'd hang a lot of the people from our bar when it would close. If we close little early we'd go to To the rawhide Which was on eighth avenue that was open late and it would open at eight so if out all night and morning. Yeah if you're out all night if you went to after hours so there was leftovers so some of the people who worked at our bar Were gay and went to a lot of gay bar so we all hang out and wind up at the ride at eight in the morning out all night roof any bar that opens it. Ain't that's like this shot bar spring j. open at eight. Which means you know. They closed four four thirty. It's only a few hours there. You know i try. Ride was around the corner from our bar but that close think is a really good episode. Terry did a great job as always stephen chevy and despite you're insane things you talk about. What are you told them into the mystic. I don't think that was a wedding song. It was a wedding song for wedding that i went to. What kind of wedding was i went. But what kind of wedding was it. It wasn't a a there was a further. My wife's husband and waitress. Where was this coast. Gold coast casino a casino. Yeah but there you go. So what if. I got married forty casino. It's i got to do it anything. Well you were. you were an executive. it's time for the talking. Sopranos ashby anything segment. The winner of the ama question is jordi from exeter. Exeter uk and senate jordi- Pair of bose headphones jordi acid sopranos. Open my eyes to a world culture that we know very little about over here in the uk has a british show or film. Ever done the same for you. While we spoke of the office. We had ricky here recently. I said it was one of my favorite shows and afterlife as well I also spoke way back about a show that i love called the royal family which takes place in manchester But you know when. I was a kid. I loved benny hill. Yeah yeah i like. I i used to watch my first agents. Father was benny hill's age. Ill no but. I think i don't think he was I don't think he was the guy that we saw on screen. Matter of fact. I think when he died in andy churches for me. Put down the fucking drink and check something out for me. I think benny hill took two weeks. No one knew he was dead. Why proudly administer apartment. He was a loner. It wasn't a funny guy in real. I don't think so. I could be completely off and people from the uk. Tell me i'm sure But andy district. That i dig. It was like two weeks before anyone now. If you died someone find you. I hope so before two weeks because we'd be doing the podcast. I would say michael. That i had to go over your apartment. Knock on the door and you'd have to do this without me. Which it'd be very hard Everyone he had been dead for two days to weeks. I for kids for two days. That's that's really that long two days You know if you don't have a wife. Today's is nothing no I i used to love monty python. I was a great show. I liked it. i didn't love that fawlty towers. I love that show. I like I like afterlife a lot. I like ricky racist stuff. Extras you like It was okay. Actions okay. I don't watch. Oh you know. i know. There's a lot of great shows. I like blinders. Writings grant never that. I like dr foster with saran jones. She's really good. She also had detective scott and value. Which i liked i liked. I like a lot of their detectives of banks the a poirot her Accua paro mysteries at Was his name David suchet he did midsomer murders as good. Happy valley is a great show I don't think it's it was a few years back. Great police drama really good With sarah lancashire national treasure was what i love. I love british toast. They're wonderful actors. I just don't i. Just i have a very weak tasted tv. You know. I want you kinds of crazy shit. You know what. I've been watching. Which i like a silicon valley. I know a good show. Show off the air. But i've been watching a lot of those. That's funny show quirky show but i have a crazy taste. I like Today on a hgtv vacation home rentals and one of my favorite shows. But that's a reality show. Well they fix up. They go to people's houses cottages in ontario canada and they switched them up Make the better to get rental income. I don't know why. I like it. But i like it to to host a great and i happen to like vacation vacation rentals and it's very good. I got a weird taste. Shit all kinds of vacation homes. They remodel vacation vacationers. I like that. I'd like food that built america. There's another one guy's men that built more. I liked diners drive ins and dives. I'm not a big fan of I think that shows amazing. I mean because those places he goes. They're all you know individual. You know people who you know. they're not corporate restaurants. The people doing interesting things. Some of them are family owned businesses regeneration. Some of them are you know you know Unique ideas kind of really interesting things. I love that show. And that's how you this about that show if you are lucky enough for him to visit your show business exploded. That's what i love about it because these these small business owners you know they get a lot of attention. They deserve it. Some of them do really innovative things and really really good stuff. You're familiar with the fontes. Yeah the amateur rate sandwich shop hundred years. It's there in red hook brooklyn and They went there and so many people. Discover the these. Even it's so popular but at new generation of people from all over the world. Just being on diner yeah. That's a great i. I've been watching barbecue brawl. did you see it. I have seen a little bit of me. I like about british shows. There was that two fat ladies that they ride on a motorcycle with a sidecar and they go around england and they they they talk about food. That was a good show. I think one of them passed away. I did see that. I know what you're talking about. Yeah i also You know why. Don't you make fun of the shows that i watch i who made fun were you were saying. I said i like it. Barbecuing even watch the fucking show. I didn't say i didn't laugh at it. I said i don't like it. I have to like it got anymore. Go ahead keep going..
Most Foul Podcast
"david suchet" Discussed on Most Foul Podcast
"Welcome. Thanks for joining us. So for many episodes we're going to be sharing stories about what we call inciting incidents so it really is the thing the book movie image song whatever it might have been that really got you connected true crime sort of on the path of being true crime follower for many episode one to kick it off to help sort of frame what we're thinking cursing i are gonna share hours and really talk about a glimpse into our history our psyche and what got us on the track ceo when i was seven seven or eight. I'm not sure we. We were really poor. Like i grew up. I'll say broke. We broke because my parents were middle. Class were fairly educated but for reasons that belong in another podcast altogether. We were poor. And so i think that this was a period. You know my memories as the child. Ler kinda sketchy. But i think this was a period where. Hbo which was pretty new. At that time. I'm dating myself. You're majorly but hbo was pretty new. And i think they must have been doing one of their like free weekends where anyone could watch because we never would have had enough money to what to have. Hbo or like a free month. You know they're trying to get subscription so long story short we had. Hbo for a period of time. When i was little. And what was on heavy rotation at that time. And i mean again. So we're talking in the early eighties like before eight thousand channels and you had to get off your ass to change the channel and you turn the dial and like set the scene. Okay so on. Heavy rotation was death on the nile. A movie based on agatha christie novel. And you know again. I dated myself. So we're not talking about like death on the nile with kenneth branagh. No offense not my favorite. But we're not talking about modern takes we're talking about the classic nineteen seventy eight. So i guess we're not even in the eighties yet. We're in the seventies okay. Oh the nineteen seventy eight classic. Peter ustinov as horo which we could talk about that in more detail. Mia farrow star studded cast death on the nile like the. Oh gee and so. I remember watching it and i was just obsessed with it and i don't know if my parents weren't paying attention or they're creep meter wasn't really fine tuned but i watched this movie all the time every time it was on and we got those little tv guide and it would show what was showing on hbo. And i would like circle death on the nile. And i just watched it over and over and if you've ever seen it it's pretty gory for the time in that. Like in the climactic original death scene the view of the gun shot on the head like you can see the stiffling and like words. I didn't even learn until i was an adult and i learned about crime scene investigation. We can see the stiffling like on head. And i was just so into it and yeah i mean i was just the beginning of it all because within a couple of years. I was checking out books on jack the ripper from from the library like hiding them in my bedroom so my parents wouldn't see and take them away like i didn't really care what they thought of me. I just didn't want to take them away. But how is the beginning and so into it and also as an aside the beginning of my love for angela. Lansbury who is like the clean. I love her so much murder she wrote. I mean huge fired of my childhood will eventually have an episode like full blown. Maybe a two parter all on cabot cove slash murder. She wrote canley. yes i vote. Yes yes that was. My that was my entree. And now i mean i love agatha christie if i were to talk about the canon of perot's on celluloid peter ustinov wouldn't be my go-to david suchet is like the ultimate. There will never be another. But i think the ustinov paro in there are several of them in that like evil under the sun and no number drawn the orange express appointment with death and couple of others during the seventies. I liked him as poro. It's like a different totally different. Take like jolly humorous than yeah. I just love that movie. Yeah so turning this into a hard hitting interview cast and for the listener. We haven't really shared with each other. We wanted this to be an authentic conversation. So i just wanted to ask a a real question. Do you think that having that as a kid like open up kind of like murder mystery as an interesting subject whether it's fiction or not. You had totally any. No i think to this day was still really intrigues. Me about it is especially these closed. Circle mysteries you know. It's the psychology of it right. So how is this group interacting with one another and what's the identity of the group as this like civilization aside from the rest of the society because you know they're on a boat there are away. There's definitely some zena. Phobic aspects all of christie's writings and that comes through in the film. There's like the other the arabs that are like on the boat but for the most part. It's just this group like the psychology of how they how their personalities in play. I mean all of that really fascinated me from a really early age in to go on in life when i was in college. I actually majored in psychology. And i think it was the same thing like true crime and psychology personality psychology. All kinds of just so interesting to me. No i'm so with you. And i mean that sort of the gym of the podcast. I think And hopefully listeners agree. Is that even if it's fictional like that's our of. What is this inciting incident. What was the piece of media or life that was like open the door or lettuce sort of on the path that eventually leads to true crime. And i think the interesting thing not as we talked about whether it's in the main podcast in these Mini episodes is that even if there wasn't an identified case that something was based on. We know that people draw from real life for things in it was known that agatha christie in particular hold little business details from real cases she was known as an expert on poisons because of her work during world war one. But you know. She pulled a lot of the information that she used in oliver stories in her novels from actual cases that she read about is just not true crime in the sense that we know which specific case every story was tied to or that it was kind of taken in whole cloth. It was like little bits and pieces here and they're totally. So should i jump over to mine. I can't wait. Because i really no i. I know even less. I kind of gave you a hint of mine. But i know nothing about what you're gonna say. It sort of started in a way. I was a child with severe night terrors. And i was asleep walker and i don't even know this is a glimpse into me now. I.
The Televerse
"david suchet" Discussed on The Televerse
"There's the definitive poirot there's a good one and it's david suchet and i think it comes down to. He does have the right energy he does. He looks like he was born wearing that trenchcoat. You know what i mean like. He looks he looks like he emerged from the womb. As peter faulk and he's never been any other peter falk but they're all of these little tiny intricacies and subtleties that. Make it so enjoyable and some of it's the physical performance. Some of it is the ease with that he brings to all of it. But also in this episode there's a really good illustration of it when he's when he has the scene with the wife widow because the the both the first one where he's trying to be comforting but obviously as also still trying to figure out what's going on more importantly once he figured out who the killer is when he is trying to talk to her to learn about them. The his energy is completely different that sort of bumbling Oh shucks don't mind me. I'm gonna make some phone calls for this very handy list that you handed me. That is folded in three. That's that's interesting to somebody who's really clear eyed and focused and sharp because he doesn't need to put on a show So both peter falk is a good actor and columba is a good actor and that is really hard to do. It's really hard to have have a character give a great performance but then also have his neutral. Be great if you know what i mean. That's it's really hard to pull off. And he's so good watching colombo switch back and forth between watching. Everybody else are Like when he needs to perform his bumbling thing to like more in the the the the killer and when he gets to just do is thing is fun but for me the even even more satisfied than that is watching him watch people. Oh yeah the reactions throughout like his when you have performance performance which so often part of the joys of the show is the killers just being at eleven. he's so subtle in the reactions just in the backyard's easy to let your attention go to the bigger performances. But if especially if you're watching our if your reengaging with the show then watching them watching him watch everything else. It's just it's so delicious. Yeah he's also really great at listening Which is another. I mean i famously. Difficult thing to do for actors and you are not going to be any good at it unless you can good at acting unless you can get good at that specific thing because it's the root of performance And he is incredibly good at it on the level with Oh god. I don't know i'm trying to think of a contemporary like a. You would never want. Chris pine to play colombo but part of why chris pine is in my opinion. The best chris is because he is an incredibly good listener. You watch him in anything no matter what. The movie is. If someone else's speaking he is engaged he's not upstaging them. He's reacting to everything that they're doing and he makes everybody else better. And that's what peter flock. Does he makes everybody else better by virtue of his attention and all that other good stuff. It's i mean. I could go on about that performance forever. It's so yeah. And the after. We were watching was written by once stephen bochco and directed by steven spielberg and said that considered a peter faulk. He's computer faulk. I learned more about acting from him at that early stage in my career that i have from anyone else so you know that's quite a compliment to get i. When i was watching it this morning. I put a little video of the opener on my instagram. Because 'cause i have to And now maybe five minutes. After i posted it a friend of mine was like that. That is mesmerizing that opening shot as mesmerizing spielberg baby. People like to talk about this. Being sort of golden age of tv directing. And that's true. We've got some great directors working television right now but But there were others who were great before and this is one of the direction is so good. That opening shot the tr- the poll in from looking out the window. And you hear the typewriter keys and pulls back and you see the office and on a typewriter is genius. Such different pacing. See how. I can see how people could have trouble. Maybe with the pacing of a of of this show because it is so slow compared to what we're used to like it's twenty minutes or so we might even be more before colombo's even onscreen And it's just the you know. That's just how shows from the the absolutely retirement Aired in seventy one. The roads the pilot and sixty eight. There was another pilot. I wanna say in like seventy seventy one before the show kicked off in earnest and then ran until the two thousand and you know just a few years but like it's like we're gonna pull up we're gonna watch the person drive their car up they're gonna park. They're going to get out of their car. We're gonna watch some other people walk by then. They're going to walk into the building so that we can start the scene with them inside the but it's such a difference. He sing and i think. Actually that's part of why it has been so popular during quarantine is. That's that pays. The slow pace of the contrast is the other stress going on in the world. But yeah it is. It is a very different in sort of mesmerizing kind of tv language. To watch for this kind of this kind of a show. Did you have any other thoughts about this particular episode. That you wanna talk about work colombo general. I don't know. I mean sure but we only have so much time. I'm no i mean. I just i was really glad to watch it as i was really glad to watch so many of the things that we watched over. The course of this was eleven billion episodes That's a transition there. You go take it because this is upset. Two hundred ten. We've done two hundred and ten of these episodes over the course of the past fifteen months. So i didn't prep anything for this or warn you but favorite shows favorite episodes favorite Student place memories. Of course obviously big shutout to to know our co host for most of the run of this and also to the toya who popped up so often with us on on And to all the people who came in hung out in the chat. Yeah just it was very nice to be To feel you this little tiny sense of community and frankly scheduling on every day Especially during twenty twenty so So thanks to uk into all of them. You know. I feel like i liked so many of the things that we watch that. It's hard to pick. But i will say i have thought about avatar the most probably it's the thing i'm the most likely to rewatch I was the most surprised by. Keep your hands off zorkin and And i've thought about the final moments of lodge forty nine at least once a week since we watched it at least once a week and gotten very sad every time I was just so excited to To get you guys to watch that show and And then i felt really badly that it was such a wonderful ending and then was never resolved so probably i would say those but i mean what didn't i like. There must be things we didn't like. I mean we didn't like blue balls. We didn't like season three of lucifer. We didn't like parts gravity falls. Yeah that's true but we mostly like every also over the garden wall which i will watch every year from now on like you do. I will watch it every fall. I cannot wait. I as soon as we finished it. I texted a friend of mine. Who is like if you were to try to come up with his aesthetic as a person it would be over the garden wall. And i said hey you have to watch this basically immediately if you haven't already seen it and he was like okay. I'll go watch one. And then he texted me to her slater you did you did because it's just it's just wonderful also obviously murder. She wrote number one ladies' detective agency. That was great. I've already forgotten the name of our other lady detective. But that was a lovely discovery bernie fisher rate. No phantom other mental status no. It's mrs sick mrs today. The one yeah the dame diana rigg mystery which i will watching again i. I liked all of them. I even like lisera season three because of dust in the wind. And that's probably my favorite runner so it was. It was so fun to as as someone who had seen most of the shows. I was always get that fear of like. Oh they've actually terrible for whatever.
Travel with Rick Steves
Saints of Spain; David Suchet Footsteps of St. Paul; Michelangelo In Florence
"Whether you're looking at Michelangelo's magnificent statue of David or you get caught up in a ruckus crowd at a street festival in Spain or even if you just listen to the wind whisper. What life was once like among the sun bleached ruins of the Mediterranean? Your travels can lift your spirit in many ways. Hi I'm Rick Steves in just a bit. We'll take a closer look at the world. Michelangelo lived in influence. Five hundred years ago and actor. David Suchet tells us how he retraced the route that Saint Paul traveled through the eastern Roman Empire. Nearly two thousand years ago. Let's start the hour with a look at how people in Spain honor the lives of important figures from their past. There are actually hundreds of national and regional saints in Spain. And you'll find that many of them get a festival that brings their communities out into the streets to celebrate to explain the role of Saint in the culture of Spain. We're joined now by tour guides or hate Roman from Madrid and Francisco Gloria from pump. Lona or Hey in Francisco. Happy Easter Thank. You thank you so. Spain is a Catholic country in in the church is a huge part of the political and spiritual past. To what extent is the Catholic Church? Still a big part of Spanish society. Today it is. I mean now. The government that we have now is very conservative and they relates a political issues with the church. Not Everybody is happy about that but still part of it and also the most of the celebrations in Spain national holidays. They advocated saints. Lady's name names. I think a lot how. How does the naming of children work compared to the Catholic faith? I mean you're or hey your Cisco do they have any with your parents. Passion for Saints a Whole Mike. As many Ms Francis Xavier because your middle name is executive because for some frantic savior was born in my town so and he was the first Jesuit Right. He was one of the founders of Jesuits Yep okay main signatures which is a very common name. Ignatius and Francisco Xavier. That's a common name where you come from pump loan and actually my name is the ACLU into English degeorge and is the only saint in the Catholic Church actually wasn't a saint also warrior that killed the Dragon Saint George killing the Dragon. Yeah it wasn't saying actually but so there are a lot of festivals when you travel in and almost all of them seem to be related to the church. Talk about a couple of the the great festivals in the Saints Days. That are important in your life in your travels Francisco I am from component the running of the Bulls on what we celebrate. The death of Seinfeld mean so. It's like huge huge celebration. That week starts July six hundred ends July fourteenth saint for me and I. You wouldn't even know who saint for me unless you went to. The running of the Bulls and pump. Lana developed comes from employees. They don't even know who he is attacked because everybody wears the red Kerchief around their neck and when people go to the running of the Bulls they wear this red neckerchiefs symbolism planet. We are under two hundred thousand people. I didn't know we. We welcome one million people and everybody's wearing white unread and nobody knows why like. Excuse me you do get excuse me. I'M A tour guide. I want to explain to you why. You're wearing this red handkerchief. That was the first person that was baptized employees and they cut his head for the recent. So what we represent the white outfit Represents Holiness and the Redmond nights the blood coming out of his neck so he was an early Christian. Pump Loner who was beheaded. Yes he was. We hit it. We say that he was beheaded any Pamplona although history tells us that he was beheaded in France. But Hey ho hey. From Madrid what festivals would impact a traveler when that we should know about quite Madrid? Not Maniacs you say but there is one very close which is Toledo the Corpus Christi is the big the there in Corpus Christi in Toledo is and that's the the corporate the body the body of Christ that's correct. Yeah and that's the Big Day in Toledo and they do bring some things to parade around. And he's part of a could be the equivalent of the beaches. Pelton SPAIN LIKELY. You have here states them. They're very conservative in there. That's interesting because in the United States We've got a region called the Bible Belt in Spain. Is there a region that would be the Bible belt get could be the political? Be One of them if you go around. Let's say like half Mouche from Madrid to the West from Madrid to the West Toledo Arbella. Salunke that part of your Browning what do you? What is your image of being? We'll have to think that we had the Muslim heritage Muslim heritage started to come down of it from the north down. Thanks Community Santos on James. Drake has just for the historic context. The Muslims came in and took over Spain and Portugal in from the eighth century until fourteen. Ninety two a good part of Spain was ruled by Muslim overlords. And then for centuries there was the RECON keystone reconquering has finally fourteen ninety two. The last Muslim was pushed out of Granada and back into Africa. What I make the difference that the Community Santiago okay. The origin was by the coast and it was the beginning of the Spanish reconquista. So this is the Camino Santiago. This is the big pilgrimage trail that cuts across from France all the way across north Spain the major city in the north west of Spain Santiago de Compostela. They'll go and How what's the historical roots for this pilgrimage? Because thousands and thousands of people make this high out there still do it people at the beginning they did it by the coast so those kingdoms those ancient kingdoms there the realize that whatever was going there were no Muslims so th would they decided to push it south and south and south and south until the Camino we know today so I am from the north in the north we barely have any Muslim heritage. We were more Christine. Must time before. But if you go down to under Lucia there you find. Churches generally built upon a mosque. Correct and mosque was built upon a church than they destroyed. If you go to civilian you see them at Nickerson Tarver. A Cathedral Tower actually was the minaret of the old mosque. So there's this layering of history. And what's very poignant to me? Is We hear about people. Being beheaded today in this struggle of fanatic Islam and Christians and so on but if you go to a church in southern Spain it's very common to see a man on a horse with a big sword cutting off the heads of Muslims and at the feet of the Horse. There's six or eight heads of beheaded Muslims as correct. Lose this man that is son James. The son teams we're representing three ways bishop as more slayer the more slayer so his. His nickname was saint. James the slater the more killer. Well enter the Moore's for the Muslims. Yeah most of our lives and today's politically incorrect. So we're beginning to cover those heads on the floor seriously. Some of those old statues and paintings are getting with put flowers well enough so you hide them so you hide you see a guy on a white horse with a sore but every time a Christian is just so disgusted by a Muslim fanatic. That cut off one of his people's heads we've got to remember. This is nothing new in history Spanish. I consider myself Catholic. We've been the worst ever I mean. We've inquisition the request. We have expelled. The Jews I mean with excuse of religion with Don's much bad. The inquisition is Sort of gift of Spain to the rest of Europe. What gave yeah. I poisoned gift. Would you describe the The inquisition you see the palace don't you out l. escorial that's right correct. What is the inquisition? Mean to to church history It's a sad episode. I mean this might personal opinion. Very site I mean also gave us practical thing. But it's a very very sad history. Every time I talk to them to my travelers about inquisition unites ties with Catholic moral and they kept going on.