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"The Stephen Smith Show podcast is the present about capital one card when you earn unlimited double malls on every purchase your next trip is closer than you think. Hey what's in your wallet this. Is this even a Smith Show podcast. I don't know if you realize this but there's an absolute revolution going on in sports right. Now you name the sport. There's a revolution going on and it stemming from the same revelation the same idea that same thing the coaches across the sports landscape figured out well it soccer or basketball or football coaches over and over figuring out a different way to win a better way to win. I spent my last weekend watching exactly the extent to which we are revolutionizing sports as we know it. It's the Stephen Smith Show on E._S._P._N.. Radio on the E._S._p._N.. APP Siriusxm Channel Eighty and on E._S._P._N.. News will cain fill in for Stephen. You can normally catch me three to six eastern on all those same channels and you can of course join the conversation eight seven to nine three seven seven six the Westbrook and hardened pairing this this dynamic duo continues to feed debate exactly where does this duo rank in current N._B._A.. Hierarchy and how is it ever going to work how to to ball dominant guards fit it in in Houston and better yet as far as I'm concerned. How does it fit in with the revolution going on in Sports with the revolution going on in basketball? I'm an explain to you exactly what I mean by that in just a moment here on e._s._p._N.. Radio presented by Progressive Insurance Making easy to bundle your home in car insurance but I the Dallas cowboys have a problem on their hands. The Dallas cowboys need to figure out whether or not they're going to pay Dak Prescott got his demands and at the same time while the negotiating with Dak Prescott there are rumblings that Ezekiel Elliott is making his way to the table for several weeks E._S._p._N.. N._F._L. Front office in Saudi Jeff Darlington has told me watch Zeke see what's going to happen with Zeke. Don't be surprised by training camp hold out from Ezekiel Elliott and now profootballtalk has an article right now that sources close to Ezekiel Elliott in private conversations have suggested it he may like Melvin Gordon running back of the Los Angeles chargers. He may not show up for training camp that Ezekiel Elliott may try to get paid this year two years out from being a free agent Ezekiel. Gill Elliot will look to get paid now by the Dallas Cowboys. I have a couple of thoughts on this first of all as we spoke to E._S._p._N.. Front office insider Louis Riddick one hour ago. I believe that there is a market correction action coming to the running back position in the N._F._l.. And Melvin Gordon may very well be the flash point of this market correction for years now if you were a great running back if you had this kind of leverage these kind of stats this kind of position in the N._F._l.'s running back hierarchy. You got paid. Look what happened with Todd Gurley fifteen million dollars year forty five million dollars guaranteed look what happened with Devante Freeman in Atlanta and although the Pittsburgh steelers walked away from bell look what happened with lady on Bell and the New York jets thirteen fourteen million dollars a year Razov fascinating stat by E._S._p._N.'s Dan Graziano he said six of the highest paid runningback six of the ten highest paid running backs in the N._F._l.. Miss Time last year because of injury among those some of the running backs I just mentioned devante Freeman signed a new deal mistime time with injury Jerick McKinnon signed a deal to San Francisco Forty niners miss time because of an injury and of course todd Gurley signed a contract as the highest paid running back in the N._F._l.. And Miss Time because of injury and at the same time while that's happening teams are learning they can find not replacement but some approximation of the value at much cheaper price. Nobody makes the argument the James Connor Islam Bell but can you give you seventy percent of Levy on bell at a third of the cost can C. J. Anderson give you seventy percent of Todd Gurley. Only at a tenth of the cost this is the kind of roster management and budgeting decisions that teams have to make and they are seeing examples of that exact market correction. Can I get some percentage of the value of my star for much cheaper than the cost but you have not yet seen outside the Pittsburgh steelers a team absolutely walk away from their star and Melvin Gordon running back the Los Angeles chargers might just be that flash point in his corner negotiations. He has at the Los Angeles. chargers window is now Philip rivers age the quality of that roster the opportunity in the A._F._C.. The window for the chargers is now and it is short it is in the next two to three years and it will most likely need Melvin Gordon but in the chargers corner when it comes those negotiations. What are we talking about? We talking about a top five running back in the league. I don't think so what are we talking about. Do we have somebody else they can come in and give me some approximation of Mel Gordon for much cheaper than the current going rate for top running backs in the league. We have Austin connector and he's looking pretty good. Melvin Gordon may very well be the flash point. He may very well be the market correction or will it be Ezekiel Elliott who is now suggested. It's perhaps perhaps possible Ezekiel Elliott. We'll be looking to get paid right now. I think there are three to four running backs this service the exception to the rule three to four running backs who you go ahead and pay three to four running backs who are irreplaceable and my mind those are right now. Ezekiel Elliott saquon Barkley Christian McCaffrey and I say this one was some hesitation Alvin Kamara. I need to see Alvin. Kamara put the full season together as the BELCO those three to four running backs are special. I need to Dallas cowboys are going to have to pay Ezekiel Elliott and I think they intend to. The problem is they're going to have to do it after Dak Prescott Escot Hey if you missed the show including my opening segment here on the Stephen a Smith show about have we ever seen three players three competitors trading haymakers about who is the best of all time the way we're seeing Federer Jovic coke of it and the doll do so antennas go check it out on demand and the Stephen Smith podcast brought to you by the capital one venture card unlimited double miles on every purchase everyday. What's in your wallet as I've said there's a growing drumbeat within media circles the Dallas cowboys should not pay Dak Prescott and why because they have to manage their roster this exact conundrum you gotta Pay Zeke? You've gotTa Pay Amari Cooper. You GotTa Pay Byron Jones. If you pay Dak Prescott thirty plus million dollars a year you can't put what's needed around him and there are those who suggest he's not the kind of quarterback they can play with an average roster around him. I think those voices are wrong but let me hear from him. I like hunter in Texas on the Shell Pennzoil performance. I'm what's up. Hunter was a will I think that <hes> the cowboys thirty million a year because he averages two hundred forty yards a game and the and yes he's one is division twice twice but one year he didn't get close to win and that was the Zeke wasn't there. That's because the in the defense carry the team and it's in the weakest conference in the N._F._l.. or one of the weakest conferences for sure and that's inaugural hunter I beg to differ. I think it's extremely arguable and I think it's extremely winnable will for me to argue it. First of all Dak Prescott is thirty two and sixteen hundred. That's his record over three years year that you said he didn't come close to one of the Division Dallas cowboys in their down year in the year when they were without Ezekiel Elliott for six games when nine seven. He's never had a losing record hell. He's never had a five hundred record and that's taking account the years it you said showed you some reason to doubt him second the N._F._C. East is the worst division in the N._F._l.. Hundred argues thanks for the call the way no no stay here hunter. I'm sorry but in the past three years the same timeframe we're talking about hunter how many super bowl championships have come out of the N._F._C.'s. You still there hunter yeah to the answer the dancers one. You're right but thanks to help them. Are you more than needed and a three year window. Were Dak has been playing hunter. The Eagles came out of the N._F._C. and one at all. How is this the weakest division in football when they're six divisions across the league and in the last three years this division is produced one of the Super Bowl champions? How does that work hunter the top five on the back talk about changing the argument about how is this the weakest division running back and a top five defense and he can't get them to the N._F._C. Championship game? If he was an elite quarterback he'd be able to do that hunter millionaire in that and a nice pivot man. You moved away from you're losing point real quick. Yeah I think he made two of them. Thanks for the call. One hundred you made to lose points quickly. Try to move to another. I'll make my argument for Dak Prescott just moment but let's see if you can get some kind of tag team. Buddy like Scott in Idaho Scott hundred needs L. tagging men and come in here. I just gotTa think that Dak Prescott is the weakness on their team. I just don't control the fall down with any accuracy and I've just been having a solid running game with with Zeke and the backfield and a solid. Maybe offensive Oh boy. I don't Carson Wentz over. I think they're sixteen an old team every year six. Where does this stuff come from? I'm serious stole. Don't go anywhere Scott. Stay right here. Don't don't take him down wound or cat or don't don't hang up on you. Try to talk to you for months. You apple good well. I'm glad you're here with me because I don't understand where this Scott. I choose my path here. I can be kind of jerk or I can be friendly and it's hard for me sometimes because main what does assist serious now let's talk. What is this come from like? Where does this IM- perception that Carson wentz is all world and Dak Prescott is average come from because it doesn't come from anything that reflects reality? Let's just talk about reality for moment on some of the points that you made Dak Prescott. I believe over the last half season had the highest accurate percentage of any quarterback in the N._F._l.. On deep throws I need somebody to double. Check me on that because I don't want to ever be saying giving false information so Cerruti is run show cats riding shotgun today somebody that's a little bit hard. STATS DIG UP. That's banging around in between my ears somewhere here. Dak Prescott who has a reputation as Deacon Dunk check down artist is anything but but that's my point we Scott. How do we come up with these things? I'm fairly sure when we come back into second. Somebody tells me he's going to be one of the most accurate quarterbacks on deep throws in the N._F._l.. On top of that you also made the argument about is supporting cast. I'm sorry but isn't the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line consistently rated as one of the top offensive lines in the N._F._l.. Ahead of the cowboys most of the time isn't that the care. I don't know about that maybe last year when they were banged up prior two years the cowboys I mean they were unstoppable on the offensive line thirteen and three they ran over people back didn't have to throw the ball at all who won in over people I just I think we developed these ideas in her head in they don't stand up to the stats. That's the scrutiny and we fall back in the end. We got a guy that works on this show named Pat. He's a big eagles fan. He's like I can give them. All these stats is thirty two and sixteen. He's made to the to the playoffs every year. He's been in the N._F._l.. He's one of the division twice he has a better head to head record against Carson Winston in Carson Wentz. He has a higher completion percentage. He's got sixty seven touchdowns to twenty five interceptions Carson Wentz has more touchdowns but then back runs for eighteen touchdowns he beats him in almost every category both statistically and in actually winning football games and and yet we have this perception no Dak isn't that great. You Know Carson would go sixteen to know I swear I don't understand what this stuff comes from at all one more Corey in Texas come on core you got you guys can triple team me. What's up corey okay so uh-huh? I've been listening so I'm GonNa talk about a few things <hes> that you've been fan before about Dak Prescott I do not think back to be getting paid <hes> at thirty million one because that may be the third or fourth best player on the team and so oh that is the leader as far as mentally but that is not the best player on the cowboys and he's not carrying the cowboys period and then you talk about him at Carson Wentz <hes> no obviously you have a better record than Carson Person Wins but when you're talking about Carson Winston and Dak Prescott the biggest thing you talked about with that because the team stat is when you start talking about Carson you name. Everything and Carson has had a M._v._p.. Season I believe he got robbed of the inventory by Corn Brayden Corey Roy a you want to set aside wins and losses which I find absurd and you want to focus on stats right. That's what you want to focus on to make your argument for Carson over deck. Here's the thing about that I win. Dak winds on every stat except for two that is passing yardage and touchdowns Dak wins on completion percentage Q._B._R.. QUARTERBACK rating every game winning drives fourth quarter comebacks every single one except for yards and touchdowns. So what is it that you hang your hat on in the end for Carson Wentz. Is it fantasy football productivity. You could talk about that. I'm not gonNA argue because I know they're they're and they're very close but when we talked about more than stats Carson Carson Wentz says it's not even close 'cause play in has had an M._v._p.. Season you can't say the same about that fine. That's in the in the four years you cannot say. The deck is close to that year Carson wentz before he was out of the playoffs golf he had an earlier. The rivals had a record setting rookie year that rivaled some of the greatest of all time. We're talking about names like Tom Brady here. We start talking about how great he was his rookie season you can you can say m._v._p.. Rookie but it's still wasn't better other than Carson Wentz M._v._p.. Collar seasons and we all know if he doesn't get hurt and and miss those regained GonNa win. Okay okay. I got you okay so here's the thing this is how this conversation goes and you know I make the argument for wins and losses. You say hey don't do team team. Stats you respond with supporting cast and you ignore that the eagles have had a great supporting cast including a super bowl winning supporting cast around Carson Wentz in fact supporting cast it was so great that won the Super Bowl without Carson Wentz so I find that absurd and then you move stats and I point out that you really only two stats and he said okay. Let's ignore stats as well and always comes back to one thing. Would you hang your head on in the wins. Versus deck debate hang your hat on the eye test and that one two thirds of a season that did put Carson Wentz into an M._v._p.. Race and all I'm telling you is you're in the end. After we have the debate we set aside all the things you want to set aside. You're putting all of it by thanks for the call Corey on that one two thirds of a season and doc has three seasons of evidence one two thirds of season that admittedly was better than any moment Dak has had as a as take your sample size that's better but that has three seasons which adds up too much more than Carson Wentz are. Let's move forward the Stephen a Smith show is brought to you by Barbasol after one hundred years of making shaving cream barbasol is finally making razors well. That was no brainer. Try The barbasol ultra six plus today save now at Barbasol Dot com the argument about whether or not Russell Westbrook and James Harden are going to work together to me. What did ignores is the absolute revolution going on across the sports landscape? It continues to focus on the hi dea that individuals and individual talent is the way you win championships and that flies in the face of everything we've seen in almost every team sport over the past decade here was Ryan Holland's once again on E._S._p._N.. I take today laying out. Wide is going to be so great. You Got Russell Westbrook and changed hard on the same. Guess was back for Dantonio. Guess what's back the seven second offense. They're going to push the pace waste. They're going to run. They're not GONNA play slow. James Harden will not have to manage his minutes because he has a guy when he's tired your turn Russ Reservoir your turn James. These two are going to be absolutely dynamic and I get it. I still liked it the Lakers I still like the clippers but guess what you don't want to see these boys first or second round. It's going to be a problem. It's a problem if you believe the way to championships it simply to have the players on the floor. Lord can win their individual matchups but that's not what's going on in sports today. Brian's had a lot of ridiculous things in that like it's going to be returned to the seven seconds or less. Mike d'antoni Phoenix Suns that was passed move. Go driven by Steve Nash what we're looking at here is to players play isolation ball and slowdown the movement of the ball and the players off the ball what more he offers up James Harden is GonNa play off the ball which I don't even know if that's good idea much less. I believe it's going to happen happened. There's so much required optimism and setting aside of egos to believe that James Harden Russell Westbrook going to work together but more importantly it defies the revolution going on in sports. Here's what I'm talking about all right. Anybody's listen to the wheel CAIN show on E._S._P._N.. Radio probably pick this up at some point but my kids are super in to soccer now what that means of New York City and what that means the wintertime's end up playing a sport called Footseoul. I saw I don't know how many guys that listen out there. I've ever heard of football but it's essentially small-sided soccer. It's five on five four in the field and a goalie a little bit like basketball and it's played on a hard court with a little bit heavier ball and it's a very passing oriented oriented game and we went this past week to Atlantic City where it was the national championships for football and the team my kids apart of went to it and man you know what was just so very obvious at this this. Is that the teams that won. It wasn't about no matter what people want to tell themselves. It wasn't about talent deficits. It wasn't about who had the best individual skill players it was one hundred percent about the teams that were organized ran a system and all four boys in the field at the same time new if he does X.. I do why all four players moving you like an like an very sophisticated ecosystem in responsive in coordinated and beautifully choreographed ways that confused defenses and gut got you wide open and by the way it had nothing to do with the ball in their hands. It was guys moving without the ball that gutted teams open. If you think about what's happened over the past couple years this has been that what's happened in sports. It has been a product product of system in organization over talent every single sport. Why don't you think about this okay? I grew up in Texas high. Football is everything in Texas when I was a kid and I was growing up in the eighties. He's in ninety. S The teams that won the State Championship football and Texas with teams that were the biggest strongest fast without a doubt it was who had the best talent on the field and then something weird started happening all of these schools across Texas who are suburban you know on a lot of times you know. Small kids not not blessed with huge sizes changed over time and clearly talent deficit started winning at all. It's time in the nineties was teams like Austin Westlake started winning it. All you know that's not a football powerhouse. Football Paris's Odessa Permian Dallas Carter is who wins at all Austin Wesley was winning at all what happened was they start implementing system starting middle school offenses that they taught every buddy in that school system how to run by the time those boys arrived to high school. They've been running the same often through high school football and seven on seven in the spring and summer until they knew it like it was instinct the back of their hand and they got it everybody across the State Star racking up championships and then here's what's fascinating. Here's what's fascinating all these little quarterbacks who were as I said before perhaps not as talented as the ones you running out before with size and ability but with the ability to execute a system short quarterbacks in fact started going off the D. One colleges and those colleges adopted the same systems and you saw the emergence of quarterbacks named drew brees then Baker Mayfield then collar Murray guys if you were focused on individual talent wouldn't even put into position to play quarterback at you're focused on the system and the system one in everybody adapted. My point is this is not just in football by the way now big twelve from from Texas High School football too big twelve offenses to the N._F._l.. What is the N._F._l.? It's Austin in West Lake. Lake Travis Texas High School football off into its Baker Mayfield and Cleveland Pat Mahomes in Kansas City cuyler Murray in Arizona Twenty is systems and it's happening basketball in the same way pass move. It's the Steph Curry Revolution. It's happened in everything's happening soccer and now you're gonNa tell me 'cause you put Russell Westbrook and James Harden on the same team. The talent is going to be something they can't. They can overcome anything. No what system fits these two guys. It defies the revolution going on sports. I've got more on this. I want to tell you more examples. I want to hear from you as well eight at eight seven to nine three seven seven six you need to a game download the vivid seats APP enter Promo Code Champs at checkout to get ten percent off your first order. Don't buy just NEC. He get a vivid seat all right. I want to hear from you. Plus Ben Simmons has a hundred seventy million dollar Max deal with the Philadelphia Seventy sixers as he worth it. It's coming up on Stephen a Smith Show with wilfing interesting creature habits the flat arid planes of many an automobile dashboard the bobblehead it's most agreeable and will not along to anything despite having no brain function but when the bubble had here's how GYCO not only saves people money Eh also gives them access to licensed agents twenty four seven online and over the phone. You're not even more vigorously because he knows you should switch because yes switching to geico is a no brainer easy publ at easy. You can get whiplash you too Stephen. A Smith Show podcast will cain filling in for Stephen here on E._S._p._N.. Radio you can normally catch me three to six eastern on E._S._p._N.. Radio E._S._P._N.. APP Siriusxm Channel Eighty and end on E._S._P._N.. News I can give you all statistical reasons that I don't believe Russell. Westbrook and James Harden will work together on the floor for the Houston Rockets. I can tell you about usage rates in how these players some of the highest in the N._B._A.. At their peaks over forty percent usage rate for James Harden Russell Westbrook. How does that work when you put the two of them together? We can talk about Russell Westbrook's spot up shooting his stroke from I'm three and that he shot twenty nine percent. How's that going to work on a team and you can tell me about James Harden playing off the ball and I'm going to be doubtful about both this egos and basketball philosophy but the truth is one of the main reasons? I'm skeptical about Russell. Westbrook and James Harden together is because I went to a foot saul tournament this weekend for my son. Foot tall is hard surface hard court soccer small cited five on five and I watched teams gut in each other the very best in the country. This was the national championships because they worked as cohesive units with off ball movement and players knew what to do in response to each other. They weren't individuals. They were a team. It wasn't about any one player layer skill. It was about the way those teams worked together and I'm here to tell you. This is the secret to winning any team sport in two thousand nineteen. We've seen this revolution. I just laid out what went on high school football in Texas starting in the mid to thousands of really the nineteen nineties where suburban school started winning State Championship after State Championship by running the same system from middle school through high school. It was a system that produced the likes of drew brees and those systems were adopted by big twelve colleges like Oklahoma and then produced quarterbacks like Baker Mayfield in Collar Murray and it's a system that has been adopted in the N._F._l.. That his producing careers like Patrick mahomes in Collar Murray in Arizona. Can you master a system. Can you master off ball movement. Can you get every player on the same page page this trump's talent tapping and soccer greatest clubs in the world like Barscelona run the same system from their Kademi when they're twelve so by the time they reach Lalita. They've all been running it for a decade decade. They know what they're doing and in basketball we've seen it happened with the Golden State Warriors and Steph curry the Steph curry revolution is his off. Yes obviously his shooting but his off ball movement if the players without the ball working together the ones defining winning at every level in every team sport and so I wonder when you take to incredibly talented an amazing individuals i James Harden and Russell Westbrook. How is that not gonNA work? How's that going to win anything? It's not about just getting the best talent is not about having the best player on the floor. It's about five eleven however many players you have on a fielder court all working together at the same time. The Stephen Smith show is brought to you by my computer career dot E._D._U.. Training for a better life that's the revolution going on in sports and that's why I'm doubtful of Russell Westbrook and James Harden together Robin Miami. What's up rob you in the Stephen? A Smith show is will cain. Hey how's IT GONNA will so this is my opinion to me. The rockets are easily cut favorites to come out of a west and I'm GonNa tell you why if Dantonio would've split there and start Tyson Chandler and Capelle at the same time we're looking at a modern day twin towers on defense you got the most dynamic backward in basketball with heart and Westbrook. Remember Westbrook led the League in assists last year. Okay on top of that you plug in P._J.. Tucker who's GonNa play that that dog mentality defense. I don't see how you gonNa tell me harder than Westbrook can't work together. They've done it before because they led the league and usage rate isolation plays drives to the basket each's individuals. You can't do that when they are together. I know what you're doing and I hear everybody's saying Russell. Westbrook led the League in assists Russell Westbrook's assists after pounding the ball into the floor for ten fifteen seconds driving to the basket and kicking <music> out sometimes in desperation by the way to somebody outside. How's that going to work with James Harden? WHO's game is also predicated on him having the ball at his disposal in his hands for long periods in the shot clock until he isolates the perfect shot that he wants the the problem is they're both incredibly amazing individual players rob? I don't know how that meshes together. What have Dantonio brings back that quick offense where they have to put up a shot in less than seven to ten seconds back like in Phoenix Days and you run pick Karol with Tyson Chandler compel all here's a question? Why didn't you do that with Chris? Paul James Harden because I think Chris Paul's athleticism isn't where it was like the difference between Chris Paul Right now and Russell Westbrook to me is Chris Ninety me that's not why did yes correct rob and by the way Chris Paul has injury concerns. That's not why didn't run that offense in Houston. He ran it because the best and by the way most efficient offense in Houston was gave the ball James and surrounded by shooters. Thanks for the call rob in for that matter Chris Paul much better shooter in Russell Westbrook T._J.. In Michigan what's up T._J.. You're on the Stephen Smith show with will cain high well. Thanks for letting me on the show I just wanted to <hes> you brought up a interesting point about Russell Westbrook driving to the whole in passing out and desperation and I think now that if you put Russell Westbrook in that same scenario he now has P._J.. Tucker he now has a James Harden and while. I don't see immediate success happening from this team I have to believe believe that it is an upgrade at the point guard position just because now you have somebody who's just <hes> physically capable could be able to change the one more than Chris. Paul is James Harden runs the point man. James Harden ran in the point for Houston James Harden. I did a top five list of top five point guard N._B._A.. Some weeks ago on the wheel and it was like where's James Harden. I'm like well you know as you really pointed that yes. He's the point guard. He's the Point Guard in Houston. That's my point T._J.. Harden is the point point guard. So what are you with Russell Westbrook. You can play him at the two you can. Garnish want to garters which will is James Hardie which one you're gonNA play to Russell. Westbrook plays the two that's he. She's twenty nine percent percents <hes> three. He's one of the worst in the league spot up shooting so James runs the point he does his isolation he drives and Kicks Russell Westbrook and the defense doesn't have to guard Russell. He doesn't shoot well. Man can't shoot can't drive into a lane already clogged James Harden. Just dished out of yeah. Yeah you're right. I mean look Dan. I believe Dantonio is a good coach are really do but I don't know what you can figure this out. I duNNo. It's a riddle and I'm not trying to just be the Naysayer and try to be negative. The bottom line is they're. Both I doubt this at all. They're both incredibly incredibly talented. You just increase your talent level without a doubt going from Chris Potter Russell Westbrook you increase your talent level but what I'm trying to say. Is this man and look. I'm a sports fan of every stripe and I feel if you're listening right now. Tell me you I haven't seen this. I'm serious no matter how big a fan you are of individual talent. Have you ever seen selfish play. I'm not talking about the kinds like your jerk. I'm talking about the kind where you like no. I'm going to do it all on my own. I'M GONNA do it all my own and what happens to everybody else on the floor in any sport you end up with three guys going well. I'M NOT GONNA make run because he's not gonNa make the pass to me and not just that it's not just I'm not going to be rewarded for my run. I better stay back on D. because if you can do himself there's a decent chance he's GonNa lose the ball. It's breaks everything down so now you have to players who are extremely individually focused and what I'm telling you that I've seen across sports. Landscape is those teams lose. They may may have incredibly high individual talent but they lose two teams football basketball soccer hockey. They lose two teams who can play as a team. Maybe was less talent but the play as team E._S._P._N.. 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That's a trade asset for the Philadelphia Seventy sixers. I believe in Ben Simmons. I'm not yet sure that Simmons and Embiid is going to take the sixers project to the ultimate conclusion the title but I Still WanNa see Ben Simmons put in the optimal situation to succeed. I want to see him. Put in a situation I want to see him put in a situation where surrounded by shooters and he can drive and kick. If you mistaken the show today go check it out on demand Stephen a Smith podcast brought to you by capital and venture card an unlimited double miles on every purchase everyday. What's in your wall? Let me hit up the Shell Pennzoil performance on I will from San Antonio. What's up will they will <hes> just wanted to chime in on? You're saying that Russell Westbrook does not fit into rocket system. I absolutely agree with you. I think <hes> the only way that team can succeed is this they somehow run to sell offense with the transition led by Westbrook and isolation right at the heart and <hes> Rows WanNa tie back the Dak Prescott because you said if if I look fit into that system if dot Prescott fits the cowboys system then they should pay him. I think you're exactly right. I think player fits with system works and you shots pay them but yeah I think the rockets are done and they don't have a good chance this year I totally agree with you by the way and Dak Prescott does fit into the cowboys system both the intangibles and the tangible 's he is val accounts a great leader a great locker room presence a high character guy. That's the kind of guy you want around. That's the kind of guy you want as a leader of your franchise what more he fits perfectly and you could say well. Anybody does with a great offensive line and are running game. He wants to play action. He can bootleg himself and run the ball. Dak Prescott is the perfect quarterback for the Dallas cowboys right now. I think we constantly and I don't care how many times you do it. I don't care how many times you say well. They had to the reason that Russell Westbrook or James Harden played that way because they had to how many times uh-huh as you're sitting there wherever you are in your car service not knowing what you're talking about or whatever say oh the reason he's a selfish ball player is because he has to. I don't care anytime you say it. Say it while you take anelle say it while you lose teams that move without the ball say say it while you understand or proving capable of understanding why you keep losing two teams that have less talented you because talent loses to system Seiji Illinois what's up say during the Stephen Smith Show we'll see with will cain how you doing good name. What's up <hes> I wanNA talk about Russell Westbrook and James Corden? Do you think they're gonNA go into. I mean you're gonNA need superstars GONNA go. I think they're gonNA have a nice regular season and through the first what four five months of the N._B._A.. SEASON SOMEBODY IS GONNA come back. I mean go sees is not working out on the probably GonNa have nice stats bats. They might have a nice win total when it comes to the playoffs are going to lose in the western conference. Semi's that's what happened with Houston. Rockets the minutes put under pressure the minutes tested the minute. They have to sort out the hard questions of who takes the last shot who gets the ball who runs the offense. They really have to sort that stuff out. It'll prove incapable of overcoming teams that run a real offense Brandon Arizona. What's up Brandon you on the Steve Nice Michaud quickly brandon? Well what's going on in. Hey I just wanted to call in. Tell you first off. I love the jump on <hes> Stephen a show and take it over with cowboys talk amazing <hes> but I wanted to get back to the Dak Prescott and Zeke it contract situation and <hes>. I actually think that it's more important than you signed Zeke at this point <hes> and not overpay quarterback that to me fit is yes. He fits into the system but I think he's a product of the system. <hes> and I don't think he should overpay Abra like that all right. Thanks for the call man. I appreciate it appreciate you making it tight as well. Now you pay the quarterback over the running back. That's a reflection of positional value. That's a reflection what we're talking about. The debate teams have to have over guys like Melvin Gordon and maybe soon Ezekiel.
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Well, back to Stephen a Smith show, our number two and a c today Smith show right here on ESPN radio and ESPN news. It is being brought to you by Pennzoil synthetics taking synthetic motor oil performance to a whole new level. So make the switch to Pennzoil synthetics today. If you heard sound a person using the kind of language, we don't customarily Lou us over the airwaves, particularly wall. Disney owned airwaves. But there are certain times at certain things a call for. That you shouldn't be limited by the airwaves and stuff like that. Then you should have me to exhale and express yourself and evidently Damien Woody I- NFL analyst extraordinaire, you can catch them on NFL live every day. You catch him on? I hate getting beat down by yours truly at least twice a week. I mean, he he had to subject himself to the jets game this past weekend where they lost to the Buffalo Bills. Forty one to ten Damien. Woody is with me right now is a big boy. How are you? Man. I don't know about that lasts took him out of beat down know about any. I gotta hear what you're. Now, I know you better watch tone, you you don't mind. To get you are a guest, and you will speak to me with respect. All right. I'm by the way. I am your elder. You don't act. Disrespectful to your eldest of Todd may listen, I'm mad. I'm kicking my feet up in your house. Oh, I'm gonna get you for that one that one. But in the no serious this man expressed to me, why your emotions was so you why you were so disgusted. I mean just paint a picture for us of what happened to you on Wednesday on Sunday at the jets game express crystallize for us. What you actually watched. Listen, first of all, even a, you know, the gist come going into the game they own a three-game Lewis street. You know, you're working quarterback is hurt. So interim veteran Josh mccown. So you think okay veteran guy knows office been around a long time. So being office. We should be better the team they talk about Todd Todd Bowles glowingly. So you would think they been hearing all the noise they don't go to battle for the coach. Come in there with the screen quarterback who was on the street doing to go and just totally dismantle the jet. I mean, they weren't leading thirty one two three. Thirty one two three day. Ran a fake punt tackle. Tackle eligible for touchdown. Totally inexcusable embarrassing, and listen I could jump on Todd both because he's the easy target a jump on. And listen does he deserve and to Louis. But at the end of the day is both on the field playing. No, the players don't wanna feel plane gate capos can't go out there and coach and play at the same time and point win or you all when are you going to be a professional and show some pride in your profession. You can't let the bookmobile who by the way hat new lay a game in a month, go out there and totally destroy you on your home field. That's why recorded that what I did. You know, when we heard Todd balls, and he went on to Michael case show on ESPN ninety eight point seven FM in New York City yesterday, he was defending himself. He said he can't pay attention to people call it for his job. He's not worried about that. But he had a problem with people implying that he couldn't coach what did you make of that? Well, listen, I think counterpose can't coach I really do. So do I think he can coast. But I think part of the problem part of the problem with the gist Incheon is when you don't get great groceries. It's hard to make a good meal. If you understand what I'm saying. I won't repeat we not getting good when you're not getting good groceries. It's hard to make a good meal. Okay. So yes, is it coast spas for you know, what's going on out there. Yeah. Absolutely. Can be he's going to beat the Senator face of the whole thing. But if you take a deeper down into what's going on with the jet look at their roster. Rock the fever. How many guys on that roster? Would you crack as a dole like only on the day all the Jamal Adams bay? That's basically. Stephen why you did not hardly any guys on the rock where you circulate I can rock with that guy. Right. There are can we him? They don't have many guys like that. And the whole gene the gentleman's you might McKay Ignat and Todd Bowles they both been there there Ford here. So while we want to everyone wants to jump on top old and deservedly. So we care forget about the GM in this whole in the toll fiasco are we talking to Damien Woody former New York Jets former Super Bowl champion to knowing the patriots right here with Steven and ESPN radio and ESPN news. But Damian before I get off jets and get into a slew of other NFL activity. That's been transpiring. I would ask you this question. I'm a fan of Todd Bowles. And I'm definitely rooting for him. He won ten games his first year before losing that season finale at buffalo and missing out on the playoffs and he's had back to back five and eleven seasons since until this season. And now they had three. And seven we look at Todd Bowles. I want your definition of what a head coach is supposed to be because a lot of these guys we can't recant question their abilities with Xs and os. We know that they know football. The question is to me. Are you a leader of men what is your criteria? Or what do you think the criteria should be in the modern day era to become an NFL head coach? Okay. So here it is to hear this one. You hit it on the head. You have to be a leader of if God willing to follow you. You have no shot. Okay. That's number one number twos. You have to be a really good teacher. And what I mean by that you got to be able to put guys and put them in the best position to succeed. That's all any player. Everyone is put me in a position. So I can win. If you got those two things going on for you. Then. To me that is the recipe, obviously, you need players in stone and so forth, but you need those two qualities right there. That's what I look for in a head coach. Damien Woody right here with Steven ASEAN radio ESPN transition to a different subject. Obviously the deadline is today for Levy on bell to report to the Pittsburgh Steelers. If he does not report, then obviously he's in eligible to return for the rest of the season. That would be that when Mike Tomlin the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers was asked today what if Levy on bell doesn't return? His response was so be it. I have no reaction. I've told you guys, and I've told you guys consistently. Our reaction comes from me, if when he walks in the door until that happens, I'm business as usual and focused on those that are here and working appropriately. So that way, I don't waste my time. And there's all right. What do you make of Levy on bell situation in Pittsburgh? And what do you think he should do? I think totally hit it right on. You can't be concerned about people who are not in the building. Okay. And clearly they're not concerned about Levy on Bill because look at where they're. Now, they win a five three games. The officers role in Jayme Khanna's putting up basically the same numbers. That lithium pulled up put put up the defenses playing a lot better be playing a lot better. So they're not thinking about labor on and Stephen it. We I think we both. We both agree on this. I think we're both on the players that we understand where lady on Bill is coming from go. Okay. Because he plays the position of running back position where all the positions deck to warn position where you get one one one five for the pile. That's it because teams like to run you in the ground. My issue. My issue would lay the on is. He would never make this fourteen point five. I don't care what he signed what he signs in the off season. He will never ever make a fourteen and a half million million dollars and dashes thinking did so bad. That's fine. But I mean, man, it's hard to sit around you watch your team. You know, why they're going out there and playing ball. You are there at lifetime, fitness, you know, shooting basketball while your team is out there winning. Damien Woody right here with Steven eight years, PM radio and ESPN news. What are the other things that happened with Troy Aikman showing up on a wheel? Cain shell. Yesterday. And speaking about Jerry Jones, basically, basically intimating that he doesn't think that the Dallas Cowboys situation will ever get better as long as Jerry Jones remains at the helm calling the shots. But he also would extend that Prescott long term. He doesn't see a problem with that. How do you break down that situation in Dallas in terms of what you've seen what you've seen from them, particularly since they just beat the eagles Sunday night. Not to mention the future of Dak Prescott and a condom investment, you'd think should be made in him. Where do you stand on? Well, listen, I mean, we could talk about whether it was the right decision to trade a first round pick for market and is dead press guide. You know, you know, the franchise quarterback. And all those things we could we could get into a conversation with about all those things. But to me did when it comes to the Dallas Cowboys is deeper than that. You can't be America's team if you're not doing anything if you don't have the right mindset within the organization to win championships every year because Dallas Cowboys, right? I thought it, you know. It you know, to me I thought it was all about winning championships. I thought it was all about winning every year. But it just seems you know, Jerry Jones is just a wonderful marketer. And he has the Dallas Cowboys and the most, you know, what do you call it, the they work the work the most as far franchise of all. Of course, we would just tremendous. One thing since early sister early. Okay. That's just ridiculous. How many playoff Liz? They had fifty you probably know I'll, of course, you know, I know to playoff victory since nineteen ninety five to nineteen hundred. Nineteen ninety five twenty three and you want to be called America's team. Yes. Wes because they were. Pop. Mucho MAs two questions to Jerry Jones's. Would you want to be do you want to be a team that's legitimate contending for Super Bowls every year or you can kid with this whole much or that we're America's team and the star? And I'm holding press conferences outside the locker room after games. And you know, I'm always on TV if that's what you want. Okay. That's fine. You can do that. But I don't see. I don't see them continue for championships. Now, like, some some other organizations. I don't see that. Damien Woody right here with Steven ESPN radio and ESPN news Damian right now, you know, you try that me on I take this morning on television about my top five. I had sandy I sorry. The Los Angeles charges at number FOSS at the Pittsburgh Steelers at number four at a New Orleans Saints number three at Los Angeles. Rams and number two and had to Kansas City Chiefs at number one. Who do you have as your number one team in the NFL right now, you know, Steve, Amen. I have to I was about to put you in a concussion protocol, man. 'cause I thought you hit your head to or you know, you know, the the New Orleans safe is no one team. And the thing that the disappointment you've been on New Orleans four minute. So I'm like, you have new owns at three when you've been you've been talking for a minute knowing that they the best team in the way. Well, first of all, how do you have them at number one? I don't recall you have an number one before and they've got one loss. But the bottom line is this so does Kansas City and Ken cities. One loss was doing patriots was the problem was because I look at teams I look at how they're playing right now. And right now when you look at the when you look at the New Orleans Saints their dominating on both sides of the ball as far as in the trenches. Okay. They got one of the best rushing attack. And they're stopping run drew Brees playing at a he's playing an MVP little level. Listen pet Mahomes. Right. There's AP drew Brees is right there with him. Okay. They got a they got a two headed monster attack. You know, Mark Ingram and Alvin Kamara they gotta why would see that. That's almost ungodly and Michael Thomas this team right now, and you talked about it you talked about it all day today how they lost to own a fluky play to the Minnesota. Vikings. And you play you thought that if they had going on I was gonna win to two more last year. So this is the team is much suitable come into the season. And right now, they're rounding into form. They I feel like they're the number on team right now in the National Football League what they will mock take coming into the season as well. And I think that they're going to think that they may likely pull it off. But we shall see. I'm just not going to jump the gun a little bit like some people. I know. But I I'm I'm. Which one? Watching out there. And why here's what it is watch a mouth watch your mouth. Don't just is right now. What's? So would you want? This is Stephen a Smith. So you've got to watch a man is why. I keep trying to tell you that right now, you're gonna wear different. I don't wanna see another blue suit on you again by the white where. Oh my goodness. David watch you're wearing them. You know, what the New York Jets? Absolutely disgusted. You Sunday Damian. You know, who disgusted me the Atlanta Falcons here? This name is high powered offense bowling over the last several weeks Julio sununu Ridley three men Coleman, Ryan and accrue. And I'm saying I know they had injuries on defense. But they seem to be figuring it out. So I met rise their relationship seems to be blossoming, then they go into Cleveland and they stick up to join Cleveland bar rush them. Nick, Charles looks like the second coming Emmett Smith for crying out loud. Baker Mayfield looking like a Joe Montana. I was disgusted with the Atlanta. Falcons. Talk to me about your thoughts about the NFC south overall. And what you saw from Atlanta this Wiki, man, listen, I thought I thought when they landed beat the washer Redskins, and I'm hitting their thing. I'm like this team actually might be turned a corner we could legit. Maly C three teams come out of the NFC south again like it was last year. And then we saw the sticker that Carolina Panthers through against Pittsburgh getting told now aided by the Steelers in how to feel and then we saw the Atlanta Falcons get big just beat down by about the Cleveland Brown. So I pay this division, man. It's it's New Orleans to take pay New Orleans it could possibly run away with this division. But the Atlanta Falcons man, the two Jekyll and Hyde won't weekday. Great another we they look SARS. So you that won't take you on the National Football League. You know, I looked at the Sokoto bears. And I I'm looking at Green Bay and we saw Amer Rogers do work albeit it was against the Miami Dolphins. But in the end Khalil Mack comes back in and basically just picked up right where he left off just terrorize Matt Stafford and the Detroit Lions this past week, how formidable Chicago how serious of a threat should we consider them NFC this year? I think if I'm in Chicago might be the only team in the top five is scoring off and scoring defense even eight ask impressive. That's impressive. Em would was scary. As Mitchell Trubisky is just getting better and better. And better. I do think he's getting better. I think about a man he's he's getting better. They got weapons on offense, man. So that these fish in the people the personal that heavenly defense. And I've always said that if biscuit comes along. And keeps developing this team is going to be a scary team of the year. Why would the bears man there's they let me ask you this hitman Mitch bitchy keeps coming along. David. Let me ask you this question ought to bear six three right now if it were not for Khalil Mack K one defensive player have the kind of impact we suspect. He has had on the franchise. Usually man if you a quarterback can only affect teams like this, but Khalil Mexico. He is an absolute animal and those guys were decent. Speed offer him those guys on defense or making plays off of him because he draws so much attention, and let's get Chicago has really good personal defense, man. So when you got to focus all their attention on Khalil Mack. Now, you got you know, Keam Hicks. You got roquan Smith. You got all the boys on that divas of ball. Just roaming free making plays. So. Yeah. One guy kid kind of change the coach coaching energize the franchise. I think Khalil Mack is done that Damien Woody right here with Steven ESPN radio. ESPN news after you saw New England give beat down by Tennessee this week in thirty four to ten. What did you walk away thinking that they'd recover? They got a bye week. And did after that they got the jets which. What's the Mazas another by week and then you could finish off the season? Or did you walk away from their thinking this is it New England going back to the Super Bowl this year? I you know, I have concerns about New England one in three hundred road. That's not that's unpatriotic light. And when I wash New England Patriots particular office couple of things stand out one of not going anymore. Okay. You know, obviously, he's he hasn't been on the field. He's been hurt. But even when he has been playing he's not the famed God that we've been accustomed to seeing the days of him being the number one tied in the league. I think over that. I think that belonged to Travis Kelsey now the Kansas City Chiefs, and I think because gronk is who grow kids any more more more. The load is falling on these other guys. And these other guys aren't getting separation and you saw against Tennessee titans. These guys couldn't shake loose and Tennessee titans. Dismantle the patriots. Tom Brady was under. Seized because he couldn't really find anybody and they were able to run the ball right down the patriots throat. So actually the bow. We call it. The perfect competent patriots. They'll give it to the playoffs. But I don't think they'll be able to contain with, you know, the candidate cities, and, you know, even a loss Angeles charges at this rate, if they don't get things fixed quick, fast and hurry. Damon? Would he always appreciate your vote? Thanks a lot for joining me today. I talk to you later, man. Take it easy. All right one and only Damien Woody kitchen on NFL live a few times a week catch them on. I take as well. My partner in crime, my buddy, he's right here with Steven eight years, PM radio ESPN news back to your calls and more on the NBA on the NFL NFL, by the way is contemplating what to do because Mexico City. There's an issue with the turf on the football field. So the game between the Los Angeles Rams and the Kansas City Chiefs is being jeopardized. I have a simple solution to this problem. And it does not involve building a wall, by the way. I'll explain in a minute. I have a solution. And I'll give it to you in a second. Stick around on. 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Find your seats at vivid seats, Fisher ticket partner of ESPN and to promo code ESPN at checkout receive ten percents off your order today that is indeed vivid seats number to call up as always attributed say ESPN, it's innate seven to nine three seven seven six lots of stuff to get into no doubt about that. And I will definitely do. So in just a second because bottom line is this we've got a situation you develop it will Levy on bell. We got pay attention to it. We really really do. We just have to do something like that. It's the right thing to do fourteen and a half million dollars. He's walking away from if he doesn't sign onto to return to this. Pittsburgh Steelers Vaas four PM eastern standard, top cat Nuno. Can y'all give me some calls, please? So I. Get to some of the callers that have been on the line. He because my computer is not up right now it at eight say ESPN, it's edited seven to nine three seven seven six. Let's go to the Mario and Oklahoma City. You live Stephen they what's up, man. I'm all right talk to me. In the top five. You know? They just think they just signals pretty bad man can Oklahoma City be a top five team. In the league this year. No Russell Westbrook. I like Steven Adams a lot. But the combination of Russell Westbrook, Stephen Adams and Paul George is not going to be enough not top five in the in the league take top five in the Western Conference. But top five in the league. I don't think they got a shot to pull it off. That's just where I'm at with it. I'm sorry. I don't see that happening. I don't see that having who's that cat. Chris you live Stephen they talked to me. AC mega talking to you again. I will make yes, are you mentioned earlier about mantras heroin. You sound like she was just in shinned up giving him up. I don't I think that's easy to say. Now, Stephen because obviously Houston with the game away and injuring potential get. That's the reason why they pop quiz call. So I think there was a win for each team is coming to LA and CPI going to Houston. Recycle Chad, disagree with you. You said that and but I don't agree with you about shape Yogesh guild just outside of gender point guard. Say that I feel right now that he's already better than Lonzo ball. But we had a lot of right now. I feel like saying a lot that's not saying a lot because the reality of the situation that we have seen enough from Lonzo ball. The reality is is that you look at a guy like Dennis Miller. He's been better. You look at a guy like DeAnne FOX in Sacramento who gave it to Lonzo ball in the NCAA tournament when Kentucky beat UCLA and he dropped thirty nine on Lonzo. Did you look at guys like that? And these guys are stepping up and showing what they're made of and really golf forward. We are not seeing that from Lonzo ball right now. We're seeing too much timid play. He's too passive. He's not being aggressive looking for shot. And that's a problem, and as it pertained to Montrose Herrell, here's what I would say to you. It's not even about him per se. It's about this with Houston if you're knocking on the door of a championship. And you firmly believed that a Chris Paul injury is all that cost you a title. Why would you allow yourself to lose? Four different plays or for different people in terms of Trevor reason, Luke embalm Montreal's Harold, and then Jeff viz Dilip. Why would you allow that to happen? If you were not going to do and you were so close. I mean, that's a question to answer. I don't I don't. I don't think he does. I think ownership does. I think ownership does. Because I think if it was up to jerem Maury and the ownership was willing to spend the money, I think he would have kept the reason. They go both they had at least capable of a real quick Stevie. I wanna mention about the clippers obviously right now being here in LA. I do for like they are better than my. I don't know that they're more Calicut Clinton my Lakers. But they are they play collectively as a group in Dr verse who before he has got those that by twenty two to when he's preaching in. I think it's easier. Stephen aides to play with a collective group. Not basically not looking at one guy to call. Right. That's fine. That's fine. That's obvious. So, but we all know that stars. I mean, there's a lot of good players. And then there's greatness. Okay. So let me ask you a question will you saying this last year when Chris Paul led Houston sixty five win season? And it was it was knocking at the door of a Western Conference title. We try to understand the question. That's what you saying this in terms of the clippers no longer have Chris Paul and Doc Rivers, no logging gets to go to Chris Paul ask him to run every plate through him and stuff like that. You're saying basically, you got a lot of good players that are devoid of stars. But our plant collectively as a better union. They're playing together and Doc Rivers might enjoy this more. I'm asking you the question. Do you think that was the case last year when Chris Paul was in route to a sixty five win season and the Houston Rockets with knocking at the door over championship, assuming they could have gotten past or go to Saint 'cause you do realize the Houston Rockets only forty eight minutes away from a championship flashy. She realized that right because they would they would have be Cleveland. L we're headed out. But I doubt. Okay. That's all. I'm saying. I got you are appreciated call man. Thank you so much. Let's go to rob. You live. Stephen. They talked to me, rob. Even a. Download thing. Jimmy, you're talking about this mellow thing. The beginning last year, I called you. And I ask you said on feeding I said mellow if he wanted to rejuvenate his career he could think about coming off the bench, and you kind of downplayed that they're not called back then I called back late on. And I said mellows not even a superstar anymore. How does cover right there? Stop right there. I never called mellow superstar. I don't know. A oh, no. I never called them superstar. I said he was a star. But you gotta play both ends of the floor. And you gotta get to a finals. See I'll hold I hold guys that are bigger like, for example, what CPI three I don't hold them accountable. Like that the reason why because to be six feet playing under the rim, and it'd be a floor general responsible for giving everybody else involved and doing what you can't. I think CPI three is one of the elite point guards of this generation with mellow you six eight to forty averaging twenty four point seven point per game for your career up until last season. I'm going to hold you a bit more accountable to advance a team further because you're the guy that they can go to say, here's the ball, take me to the promise land. And you can't do that. That's why say never superstar called him a star. Because at one point in time. I thought they'd mellow was one of the greatest scores of this generation. And when you look at Houston with Bob Bob Mugabe and Trevor Aretha going my attitude is year you start mellow. Absolutely. You start mellow, but the flip side to it. That this Dilkes gone. A reason I'm Bob moon. Tear going your compromise defensively. We know he's not going to bring much to you defensively. And this is where you are not to mention a relationship with Dan, Tony, which is what I'm hearing about. Now. Well, you can't be star in the league. I mean, I think you can't even come off the bench given one four eleven and the only ballad quest to GATT. What was a gold? What wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Lebron James one scored eight points in a finals. You can't go by one game. Now mellow is not what it used to be. He's clearly lost a couple of steps. He's got to eat some humble pie. Accept the fact. He's just not what it used to be. He didn't take his body to wait in the car, LeBron has, etc, etc. He came into the league with Bosch, and blah, Bron and all of them have multiple rings. And he doesn't have even an appearance in an NBA finals, those facts, that's the truth. But you can't call up here and hold one game. It gets mellow this four games this year where he dropped dead at twenty two points. He's clearly not what it used to be this say that. But let's not hold to one game against him. I was off that's a mellow. I wouldn't even do that to my. Okay. Well, you just date. Well, go ahead. Another thing. What's going on with the next Steven what's with the because? Listen, I saw I saw I saw coast face fake end up. Like, this is not what I saw up for not. They got beat down. No question about it. They got bumped rush. Toronto came of them. And I forgot who else. It was it just took him out of the game before they had a chance to pass gas. That's true. But I will tell you this. I'm not judging the Knicks by wins and losses this year. All I care about what the New York. Knicks two things two things only I need to see production and elevated level of production from Kevin Knox. A and b I need to see porzingas comeback and showed that he's healthy. Because I think the combination of those two things are going to be enticing enough for the New York Knicks to acquire a marquee free agent in the off season. That's what I believe. I believe that would out that the New York Knicks Cinco get anybody. And then they're going to be my than purgatory for years to come. Okay, next last question. How are we gonna who's going to lead the New York Knicks? You think when for zingers comes back? He's ready to be a leader. No, it's not about a leader. What I'm saying to you is that what they need is for those two guys to show you something enough to be appealing to a marquee free agent to come to New York is show only chains is your only chance, and I haven't to believe that the New York Knicks don't even need to superstars if you've got a superstar. And there you go out and you got Kemba Walker. I think you'd be fine. I think you'd be fine. Put let's say hypothetically, and I'm not saying this is going to happen. But hypothetically speaking what if it were Kevin Durant and Kemba Walker who joined the Knicks. You gotta shout at these two conference crown. You got a shot. The form. I gotta go. Appreciate the call it. Eight say ESPN, it's editing. Seven to nine three seven seven six mortar, Stephen a Smith show on ESPN radio and just a minute about away selectquote. 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David Stephen Smith show abbot of a tooth, Stephen Smith show. ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance and making it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. Let's get back to the phones for I get on outta here for the day. Let's go to let's see here. Matthew, you live Stephen h ultimate what's up? Absolutely, pleasure, Mr Smith a coffee. Thank you. Go ahead. With all day. You know, you were talking about a LeBron James and how you know during his career. He has missed so free throws called tree throws regular free throws. And you in max have constantly in the last year and a half had said, then the brand is the best small to ever play. The game will Larry Bird might have something to say about that. Because like bird was click with rose, quite three points. Stop stop stop stop first of all don't ever call up here wasting your time giving me history. Like, I don't know don't waste your time. Like that where you stand on on online holding the talk to me, don't try to give me a dissertation about the history of Larry Bird. I'm more than aware of it. What I've religiously stated is this hour take LeBron James over the course of eighty two regular season games and play in the playoffs any day of the week before Larry Bird for the first forty five minutes last three minutes. Give me Larry Bird all day every day. Larry Bird was never Larry Bird was never the physical specimen any athlete that LeBron James was, but Larry Bird could shoot LeBron James out of the country. Okay. Lebron wasn't in his stratosphere as shoot up with tick Uley in the clutch. So our take Larry Bird in the waning moments. But over the course of having the carry a team for forty plus minutes night, eighty two regular season games plus a playoffs. I would take LeBron over bird until crunch time. What about this? And again, it's not, you know, promise made you say me, we know all basketball. Well, let me ask you this going and rookie bra on Mount Sinai. Birds took the the the Celtics from the last place team to the first place team. This. I'm not talking to you anymore because I don't have time and you got to call back earlier when we have more time to discuss this because the broad James has carried no names to NBA finals. See what I'm saying? I'm not having this conversation with you. We can talk about it. Another day. Let's go to district you live with Stephen. They real quick district. Go ahead. Oh, yes. Stephen day who they're going to beat that safe, man. Look who do you think we're gonna lose to the upcoming week? You got the eagles the falcons Cowboys book Panthers. Steelers in the Panthers again, I think you lose one of those games to the Panthers. I think it's possible that you might lose to the Steelers. I think you're at the very least going to the NFC championship game. And right now, I believe that if you have home field advantage you'll go to the Super Bowl. I think that drew. I think that drew Brees is phenomenal. I think that Michael Thomas wanted to top five receivers in the game. I think the duo of Kamara and Ingram and the backfield is surreal, I think Brandon Marshall is going to be a good pick up for you just like Dez Bryant was before he went down. Unfortunately today. C L injury. I think New Orleans got a chance it's coming down to them and the Rams for Super Bowl berth. I gotta get on outta here. I'm live from the nation's capital. I'll be back in New York tomorrow before going down to Philly at the end of the week talked y'all twin to our Justice. Sample of on you hear on the Stephen swift show, weekdays at one PM eastern on ESPN radio and ESPN.
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"If you're hiring with indeed you can post job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started at indeed dot com slash Smith this evening show podcast presented by capital one card when you earn unlimited miles on every purchase your next trip is closer than you think. Hey what's in your wallet. This is the Stephen a Smith Show podcast. I'm Steven then he coach in the N._f._l.. N._F._l.. Not named Bill Belichick who would you pick is Stephen Smith Show on E._S._p._N.. Radio on the E._S._p._N.. APP Will Cain filling in for Stephen. You can answer that question eight eight eight say E._S._P._N.. That's eight seven to nine three seven seven in six seats to a game Delo D. vivid seats APP and enter Promo Code Champs at checkout to get ten percent off your first order. Don't buy just any seat get a vivid seat. I'll tell you who I think could be your top coaching in the N._F._l.. After Bill Belichick and just a moment you on the Stephen Smith Show but I've asked what's the worst division in the N._F._l.. told you it is the A._F._C. North. I don't see any real superbowl contenders and only two a playoff teams in the A._F._C. North that would be the Pittsburgh steelers and the Cleveland Browns but there's some disagreement with me like Brian North Carolina. What's up Brian? You're on the Stephen Smith. Show will cain probably going away. How you doing good <hes> how do you he's not see my steelers as a super bowl contender well? We're replacing Antonio would you we moved up in the draft camp to take Devon Bush granted our defense. Has it been the same shazier hurt but our defenses coming back James McConnell look nice last year is going to improve this year. Big beans going to be big being you know that so. How can you say that you don't see the steelers Super Bokan in okay well before you take this as an insult all right to the steelers make the playoffs last sure so we didn't okay so here's what I think the steelers are? I think they win the division. I think they make it to the second round of the playoffs and that's what I think the Pittsburgh steelers are this coming season so before we take this as an insult realize I think they're going to be better than and they were a year ago but you have to understand something. That's me believing in the steelers Brian Okay because your argument amounted to two things Devon Bush and everybody had a pick in the first round of the N._F._l.. Draft and Juju Smith Schuster which last year you had Antonio Brown and Juju Smith Schuster so why would they receive in course be better just by taking away Antonio Brown. I don't see a reason a compelling reason to make them a super bowl contender and the biggest reason to doubt out that is I don't think my Thomas been able to bring this roster together over the last several years to reach his full potential. I think this is a team Brian that has underachieved and underachieved significantly. I agree. I totally agree but last last year we had too much turmoil this year. We're not gonNA have all the locker room issues. I think tone is going to have these guys together more than they have been. The last couple years and I honestly think that we may make strong super bowl. I appreciate the call Brian what I'm telling you about the steelers and then as an extension what I'm saying about the north is I think people have discounted the steelers too soon. I think they've anointed the browns too soon but while I think both of those teams are playoff teams. I don't think either are superbowl superbowl contenders. I think the steelers are second round exit and the playoffs and because those are the only two teams that I think a real playoff contenders. I think it's the worst division in the N._F._l.. Charles and North Carolina what's up Charles. You're on the Stephen Smith show with will cain can you can you tell you sam he forgot about Charles Weapon Ramleh Charles yes who you talking to <hes> who you talking to. Oh No no no to wrong in two ways when when I picked up the phone you telling somebody let me tell you what I'm talking about. Who are we talking to them? Okay and you're talking to will not Stephen Naismith. What's up Charles? You're you're on the show with Wilkin well Cain. Yes Sir you forgot about one coach and then Ray Franchise Panthers we got recruited Christie Fan running back and I'm twenty years and we meet your Kabyle about come on Thanksgiving Day. You remember that day. We spanked you that day. We spanked you. You didn't Thanksgiving Day but you beat a couple years ago season last year cupbearer to go but yeah you don't give you'll get prison camp note. You'll give around bear okay. We've been your care Mohammed Bin Award since nineteen ninety five when your H._R.. What is kiss? Where's this second-place trophies bragging about? You're getting the super bowls cowboys one five super bowls one of them. You had one in twenty three years. My ran well my friend. Let me tell you something I ranked Christian McCaffrey as I believe the fourth best running back in the lead the other day so don't you tell me I'm being mean to you or the panthers well. Can we remind David car something plumbing and now we're not a sixteen <hes>. We got rather paying in Carolina we we we go to when Wayne Lorraine Muster. We got pretty good paying base. I know we got the saints and how the Bug but by but you say dying for the One Flavor Champs your game we'll Troy Manal will give you the credit. They'll give mcmillian k.. Okay Charles. I'll do that can give me docs phone number. Charles wants me call Dak until him to win the championship. The game and then Charles will give him the credit that gives troy. I need to do this right now. I need to call back and pass on Charles Message because if Dak doesn't know what it's going to take to get Charles respect. I'm afraid Dak won't do it. I can't call tad add Prescott who's a devoted to the will cain show and I assume when we'll Kane is filling in for Stephen a Smith if you could have any quarterback. I'm sorry any coach in the N._f._l.. Not Named Bill Belichick so so essentially you have the second round draft pick on drafting coaches in the N._F._l.. Who Do you take the best way answer? That question is ask yourself. What does Bill Belichick give you what is unique and there are several boxes that I need checked when it comes to an N._F._l.? Coach I ask myself these things number one. Can he win in multiple ways. Can he more. Can it be a passing offense one year be running based offense in the next. That's what we see with Bill Belichick a constant ability to change who you are in the early days of the Patriots Dynasty it was Tom. Brady is a game manager. Tom Brady's a caretaker. It evolved into the late to thousands of Tom. Brady as an absolute peyton manning esque light it up up quarterback it moves from a Randy Moss wide receiver based off into a rob Gronkowski slot receiver based offense and then ultimately it moves back to the short passing game in place of the running game defenses role in this comes in and out throughout time it has morphed in multiple ways as bill belichick found ways to win he adjust to his talent number two at any given time he looks at the personnel he has in make sure he puts that talent in the best position to succeed number three he manages that talent both from salary cap perspective and a locker room perspective he doesn't overpay he says goodbye some very big names and you never hear about discord inside that New England Patriots Locker Room he develops talent number four finding players outside of the top ten in the draft always drafting near the bottom of the first round and developing that talent to continue to replace the holes continue to replace the guys that you have to say goodbye to an number five he adjusts to the other team not just his personnel but to the other teams weaknesses we've had tedy Bruschi and several former patriots interest come onto the will cain show and talk about the fact that he will take from you exactly what it is. You're willing to give he'll exploit your weaknesses the minute he finds them out. I want to coach the comes as close those two checking as many as those boxes as I can find Pete Carroll has done a great job of developing talent in one in multiple ways from defense and a running game to now Russell Wilson throwing it all over the place but he hasn't managed that locker room. You've continue to problems in Seattle's locker room. Andy Reed's developed and he schemed in ways to put that team in a position to win but also as he managed that locker room has he adjusted has Andy Reid adjusted in the way away the bill belichick continues to adjust and Sean McVeigh. He's developed. He's had a scheme. He's adapted to what the other team has. He's taken from the other team what they're willing to give we haven't yet seen can sean mcvay manage a locker room and talent anna salary cap over the long haul. I'm not saying he can't we just haven't seen him do it yet. Now the coach that I would pick right after bill belichick with my second pick of drafting coaches across the N._F._l.. That checks as many of these boxes I can get it is the New Orleans Saints head coach Sean Payton. He's been a high flying off into throws the ball over the place. He's had a two-headed running attack. The now shoulders the load he just a his personnel and your weaknesses. He's developed talent and manage that locker room through time. Sean Payton is the second best coach in the N._f._l.. Let me put that to somebody who would know that's former N._F._l.. Offensive Linemen and E._S._P._N.. Radio Host Jeff Schwartz joins me now on the Shell Pennzoil performance on what's up Jeff. I do money good tomorrow. The first team in camp you leave at starts today here on the Stephen a Smith show will what do you think man. I just laid out that I think that the second best coach in n._f._l.. The best coach not named Bill Belichick is Sean Payton. What do you think <hes> yeah? I heard the detailer that segment look. I'm partial to Andy Reid. I played for him. My brother plays forums. I know and very well. I think he's just done more with with less over time. SEAN EGAS <hes> you know we can argue whether or not daughter Mab is a hall of Famer Not Alex Smith is a great pro in my opinion about a hall of Famer. He came to Kansas City when they were to to fourteen year before we went to play offs of the following year. I do agree with you though that at times teams there are some issues with his team be able to coach around those at times <hes> many he hasn't some failures <hes> in big moments but he's what now made six championship games one super bowl <hes> Shawn Payne is what one no own rules. I believe so and he's one of the championship game I don't know I just think Andy Reid is such a fabrics coaching. You mentioned adjusting man the first four or five weeks of the season. Maybe even the first six Andy Reid comes out with almost like a brand new offense. I mean that'd be the best the N._F._l.. <hes> doing that. I agree that they'll check though is clearly the best poaching N._F._l.. Talking to Jeff Schwartz here on the Stephen Smith show with will cain all right. Let's stay on Andy Reid for just a moment outside of obviously the scoreboard and and winning it. All what do you think is Andy Reed's biggest weakness. <hes> I think that coaches offense coaches and this is Andy and also believe in other offense on my coaches <hes> they love the pass the ball the often get paralyzed at times ran. It's kind of like the more calm offenses require like a more running attack has been one of those games where we were thirty eight ten to third quarter. We started having injuries winning the best just to run the ball and punk almost but instead we try to pass the solo too much turnover strip sack and then just kind of started down the stretch of the colts coming back and not just andy brother coach as well where they lean on the past because it's what they know their their offense coaches offense coaches his overseas <hes> they're charging the past game the offensive line coach in charge of the one game though sees they don't have anything to do with the run. Yeah they fall back on the past game. I think that's his weaknesses at times when Games get tight tight and maybe you could run the football and whatnot you pass a little bit too much in does hurt him but you know it's been a problem at times that industries and playoff games talking to Jeff shorthair on the Stephen Smith Show with will cain so jeff. I laid out all all those things that I wanna see from a head coach. Can you win multiple ways. Can you adjust your opponent. Can you just your own personnel. Can you develop. Can you manage that locker room and the salary cap and make tough choices on who to keep. I don't think anybody and I think you agree with me on this rivals bill belichick on them but the reason I picked Sean Payton is to me he checks most of those boxes. He checks more of those boxes than anybody else but there are many out there. I know this who who believe that Sean pains actually underachieved with what he's had in New Orleans. Are you in that Camp Jeff. Do you think he should have done more of less as you said one super bowls. I almost like that's what I heard underneath. That obviously is very important to win. The Super Bowl in India has not done that <hes> no but but listen. I want to know that one appearance isn't enough where he's been all these years. Well I mean I just think if you look at Andy Reid and and making an making the N._F._C. Five Times A._F._C. now now once I mean that's a Q.. Live you know career so far has just hasn't had as many opportunities at the dance but he's one now opportunity which is the Andy Reid Kinda fault. It's actually his fault but he needs that Super Bowl Wind. I think to bump him. Above people like yourself who haven't behind something. I don't mean Sean pains bad source to have a theory but <hes> the question is what three straight seventy nine years you don't really seeing those injury you can blame the defense possibly in New Orleans and and how much back goes on Sean Payton <hes> as an offense coach and not the general manager even though he probably had a lot of say in what happens with personnel so I very evenly matched again I just I read well <hes> I played for him so I have a lot of respect for him but the guys I know that played with Sean Payton love him as well so I think there's very close I I just you right now. If you're making a list of coaches who a super bowl that you do the most to improve their reputation the resume Andy Reid gotta be near the top of that list <hes> like another one one by the way is a coach that I don't have a ton of love respect for in that Jason Garrett Eric but if you did happen to win the Super Bowl after nine years of his process it would take all that all that heat off of off of him talking to former N._F._l.. Offensive Lineman Jeff Schwartz on the Stephen a Smith show with will so jeff. You have a new column up. It's at espy nation right right now and in that calm which I was reading this morning you were talking about the running back market non spent some time today here on the Steven Nice Michaud laying out that I believe the running back market is under such a transformation that teams are going to be soon making bold moves away from talented running backs like the Pittsburgh steelers did with love your belt but I think jeff in response to that running backs are going to be pushing up into their careers the timeline which they ask for new money like Ezekiel the Elliott is doing right now just three years into his career and I've even said I wouldn't be surprised for guys like Saquon Barkley to push it up even sooner because it's a natural reaction to not getting your second contract. If you're not gonNA pay me then pay me now when I'm clearly worth something to you you wrote today. There's only one running back in the league. The you feel like makes a difference between winning and losing. WHO's that Zeke Elliot? I know that you love to hear that as a cowboys fan. I'm actually very high on the cowboys this year. I hope offensively killing more Jason Gary are more aggressive with that is that happens which Frederick back and everyone help you all assuming that's the case. They're really good this year. We all they're going to be going but back because he elliott I think what he does in the run game with the style of of of run game they have. There's not a lot of one place but they're very efficient. Run played break with that but more than that he's outstanding in the past game. I mean he goes for a long screen almost every single game maybe every other game. He Hits a sixty yard screen pass. He's good <hes> for Dacca's kind of ally in in the past game I think if you remove him from that offense we seem when he was suspended and I'm tyron. Smith was out as well which often it's just a different offense so we saw C._G.. hairston coming there for todd girl that offense they ran different one place but the production was still go there and you know the cowboys are ordered to remove him from the situation. They're going to be good people arguable saquon Barkley Yeah deterrence aren't even good so right from the start. It'd be very good so let me see more from Saquon Barkley before I just think is is so talented. Take what the cowboys ask him to do that. They were to remove him. They'd have a problem that being said you have to pay dot instead of him. I mean if it comes down to WHO YOU'RE GONNA pay you pay back instead of veep one hundred hundred percent so you always do that but I think so valuable so it's weird for me because I wouldn't really pay running backs <hes> but if you want to keep the band together and offers together then you kinda have to find a way to pay both so you wouldn't pay Melvin Gordon you wouldn't break the bank from no Gordon. No No <hes> often had a great year last year where I was over five yards a Kerry Melva Gordon does fall into kind of the criteria I laid out for why or how you pay quarterback on your team. which is you have to have your franchise quarterback already in place and paid up and that's part of the problem with the cowboys have to pay back the chargers have left tackle? They have to pass rushers and have a second date. They have franchise pieces in place. If you want to pay a Melvin Gordon to stay on your Wall Street there's another weapon and I'm actually fine with that but you can't just give it. He hasn't played. I'll take a full sixteen games in a while off necklace doing just sort of job. The stats show that when he Alan is out there wide receiver. They're much worse offense than we're Melvin. Gordon is out which is obvious I think because still burgers throws the ball so much now so dynamic to help though rivers it just shows you soon as Pittsburgh you get the same production James Harden that you've got from lady on belt in the run. You're not going to pass game so I just I wouldn't do it almost the chargers under contract still former N._F._l.. Offensive Lineman Jeff Schwarzer on the Stephen Smith show with will cain so let me push back on your as you assumed I would like your Ezekiel Elliott analysis and I do as a cowboy fan but your estimation that he's the one running back she would pay in the N._F._l.. Because he makes a difference between winning and losing and he does so much. I think you're right on all of those things my only rebuttal to that would be we would have said the same things about Todd Gurley a year ago urinalysis would have been exactly cleared the same and I'm not sure if you get Los Angeles Rams to do over that they'd be offering todd go that same contract to your later twenty. My brother text me the exact same thing today. You said you would have had the same thing about girl last year and look what happened on and look I I told my buddy if these hurt this year and someone comes in and puts up the same production I'll take my opinion back. <hes> Zeke does not have the injury concerns at girly had remember girls need a little bit from college already <hes> and yeah I mean that's that's that's why I don't think as much as I is. I pray Zeke Elliot how good he's off. It's I'm not sure I pay him. I think I would pay a bunch of other people in that team before I pay the running back. I just don't see to your point value in paying a. Komo what you think a natural reaction where I started this show today will cain fill in for Stephen. I started this out with look man. This is going to happen like if the League keep sending a message to running back that you're not gonNA see your second contract dragged. You're not going to get your pay day. You'll see a second contract but it won't be the money that you want or you expect and teams won't be wrong right because we've seen everybody followed their own incentive. They've seen running backs tail off right about the time their second contract comes in will we'll in response to that. What we're going to see is running backs attempting to renegotiate their deal midway into their rookie deal like Zeke's doing right now? He's got two years left on his deal sake one Barclays one year into his rookie deal and he's never had your point is well taken at the giants are any good but his power and leverage and importance has never been higher saquon Berkeley's worth more than eight million dollars year right now and he has to try to cash in win. That's the equation when he's worth his most. I'm just thinking sooner or later apparently sooner rather than later we're gonNA see running backs push up there holdouts and attempts at contract renegotiation yeah. If your first round draft pick I believe in the currency of the you're not allowed to renegotiate after three years so that actually really hurts some of these running backs and I wonder what the new C._B._A.. How contract structures will change but yeah Zeke Elliott's doing it right now? This is the time to do it before. I didn't think Melvin Gordon show done this hold out before <hes> O._T._A.. Started when teams Kinda still need running back and it's kind of is that the perfect time for him but he's so valuable hey guys I'm not gonNA show the camp. Luck without me. <hes> this is the leverage is using now I'm with you. I think that you see the writing. The Wall cowboys probably don't WANNA pay him. Not many people are GONNA pay him <hes> most most likely and awareness body getting a lot of carries a lot of catches <hes> and there for him. I'm I'm all four players from and get their money when they can. I think you're right this more running backs. Try to get money after the third year and then of course if the C._B._A.. Changes will guys associate much earlier in their contracts then all right former N._F._l.. Often Salama and E._S._P._N.. Radio Host Jeff Schwarzer on the Stephen Smith show thanks a lot jeff satisfying crunch of Nature Valley crunchy bars can keep your family going which means more outside fun for you and with whole grain oats in real delicious honey. 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Nowitzki one of the lease youngest best and brightest stars WANNA stick with one market for twenty years. That's very good news for one fan base. Stephen Smith Show on E._S._P._N.. Radio will cain filling in for Stephen. You can normally catch me three to six eastern on E._S._p._N.. Radio Oh and on E._S._P._N.. News I'll tell you about the star. The just stays old school here in a minute just on the Stephen Smith Show Baloney hit up Shell Pennzoil performance on where I was talking about the power rankings of the N._F._l.. Fell over the next three years who is the best position to compete for Super Bowl over the next three years in coal in Georgia doesn't like where the Falcons came in at fifteenth what's up coal. They will how you doing good good good. I I have say to show that I don't have my homework glasses on. I disagree with still gays about putting them in the top ten. Okay so you called into days. Gene DOT COM has it right. I think they should be in the top five. Oh Okay Coltan five over the next two years so you're hold on hold on hold on cold now so who we displacing here because in the top five you have the chiefs the Patriots the colts you have hold on just got a refresh here Patriots Eagles and Seahawks. You're putting them well. I think somebody should be ahead of the SEAHAWKS. I agree on that. I'm just not sure it's the falcons I think they got their on offense and the youngstown defense I mean they they. They're often to line so I think they're really good position to win the lottery games all right well call. Here's where I agree with you. Thanks for the call mem- I think the Falcons are better than they're being ranked right. Now I ain't the Falcons are Super Bowl contender. I think they're one of the two in the N._F._C. South that are real superbowl contenders along with New Orleans saints. I think the seahawks of the next three years are being overrated. I just don't know that I would pull the falcons all the way up from fifteenth to fifth but I will agree with you that they are being underrated Robert in Virginia. What's up Robert Stephen Smith show will cain hey well? Thanks for taking my call about him in a couple of things I WANNA point out. I WANNA start off by saying I wanted to correct you. When you took they call from the guy and Carolina that was actually week one gain? We lost the Carolina because I was. There wasn't a second week said second week. I'm just you know what the deal is Robert. I'm so used to playing the giants at home every year in week one that I think that just happens every year. We won on giants at home in that happening again this year. Yes yes Sir Cowboys John Cowboy Fan but anyway second <hes> I would have to pick the worst division in the N._F._l.. What has to be as long as Tom Brady and Bill Bella check isn't the vision it has to be the N._F._C. A._F._C._D.'s excusing only they're? They're always going yeah yeah yeah yeah but I mean you do have to also factor in that. The Patriots are there. I get you like it's the Shallowest Division One team eighteen but that one team happens to go to the super bowl almost every year so it's hard to say that divisions week when the Patriots are in it i`ma strong with the vision. I would have to say what has to be the N._F._C. North. I mean you look at three three. playoff-contending teams can't count arises from Super Bowl Chicago's really look good last year and the last thing I wanted to point out is if I had to bring another coach back I know I know his former coach. Bring Me Bill College of The Dallas Cowboys You bring me bill will win the Super Bowl along for decent good cornerback. Yeah thank you for taking my call will thank you thank you. I don't want quite honestly i. I don't want somebody's been retired. Valognes Bill Cowburn urban retired. Now you know there is a there is such thing as the power of habit. I mean you get out of that purposeful workflow every day. That's a hard thing to jump back into. You start getting into that T._v.. Once a week life and it's it's hard to go back to that N._F._l.. Grind Day in and day out. I'm telling you something and he's been retired since two thousand and six. You're telling me Bill Cower. After thirteen years of living the good life is ready to start worrying about Jerry. Jerry Jones men get out of here. I don't think you jump in after that much time off. I believe that the N._F._C. North is a good division. I think there are three legit playoff teams as you said the Vikings the bears and the packers but I'm not sure how many of them are real superbowl contenders unders in fact. I need to see more from Mitch trubisky before I put the bears in that class. The one team in that division that I put in the Super Bowl contender category is the Minnesota Vikings. I think they were close. A year ago. Took a step back last year but I believe that team has a good defense is well rounded. I still believe in Dalvin Cook one of the best wide receiver course in the N._F._l.. and Kirk cousins has he built a show that he he can be better than case. Keenum was Stephen as miss you on E._S._P._N.. Radio is presented by progressive insurance protecting commercial vehicles and offering specialized coverage designed to protect small business more at Progressive Commercial Dot dot com so Paul George breaks four year contract one year into his deal and demands a trade from the Oklahoma City Thunder to the Los Angeles Clippers and we've seen this go on and on across the N._B._A.. From Anthony Davis. Two others where you're breaking contracts two years with two years or more left on your deal but there is one star who says he wants to do a differently he wants to stick Janas on stucco wants to stay in Milwaukee for the long haul and he believes that next year they're ready to win it all the Chevy so realistic not every team N._B._A.. Has released the GO-TO. He's probably like four. Five teams can say that we wanted them so that's gonNA saying that. The bucks are one in a four to five teams that can win at all the next year. I think there are actually six seven eight teams that have a real shot to win it all next year but the bucks are certainly part of it and here's what else Janas had to say. I quote now. I want to be part of a winning team team. As long as we have the same mindset and same approach to the game there's no reason for me to move and not be like Steph. Curry not be like Dirk Nowitzki or Kobe Bryant or Tim Duncan Jaanus onto the COMPO- says he wants to be one of those players sticks with a team for two decades if they keep their mindset on winning Janas is a rare breed done wanna hang out with other stars in the offseason doesn't want to train with them. It doesn't want them to see his secrets and what he's working on doesn't want them to see his weaknesses in pickup games in the off season Jaanus as about being the best player in the League and according to this he's also about staying in Milwaukee and winning it all so for the bucks now there are a lot of teams that are lined up already looking to twenty twenty one the year of Janas Free Agency and I would say to those teams do not hold your breath and other Dallas Mavericks have their eye on Janas Ensemble. I know the New York Knicks having been spurned in free agency already looking ahead to twenty twenty one when Jaanus is on the market for any team planning all of their future building around a free agency period still two years away and the idea the Jaanus onto Toco will be your Anthony Davis. He'll be your big fish that you can attract from some other organization either in a force trade or in a free agent acquisition. You Might WanNa look elsewhere is do-doesn't built that way is dudes built the old school way Jaanus Aunts Toco is there to stick in Milwaukee. Congratulations Bucks fans meanwhile Ben Simmons with the Philadelphia Seventy sixers signs a Max deal and Stephen Smith AMAC's one I take will they were debating a few days ago Ben Simmons and whether or not he's worth it. I understand that Ben Simmons cannot shoot. I am telling you that is the only thing that he can't do when I look at that I look at his athleticism. What he is in open court his ability to finish athabasca shoot the field now? I'm just saying he six percent shoots. No He dunks fifty percents of what does he shoots in the ACA. Say the same thing think about the Greek freak to a lesser degree don't Sean you're just saying the fifty six percent of his shots in the interior. He's finishes. All I'm saying is where you take that into account his skill set his upside and at six ten it for crime lab and he's turned twenty three this month plead. I'm locking that brother in I clear my throat swallow hard agree with Stephen a Smith you lock in Ben Simmons. I don't know if that jump shots ever GONNA come Tom but I do know I like Ben Simmons Janas Compo- In the same conversation I do Philadelphia. Seventy sixers did the right thing in locking up Ben Simmons. This is a foundational piece. This is a building block. This is a player who can be be one of the best players on a championship team. Seventy sixers did the right thing here and locking up Ben Simmons but remember now it's the N._B._A.. That doesn't mean he's around for the long haul that means he's around for the foreseeable future pitcher Stephen a Smith Show on E._S._p._N.. Will Cain filling in for Stephen. We're GONNA close out with your calls here on E._S._p._N.. Radio and the E._S._p._N.. When it comes to hiring you don't have time to waste you need help getting to your shortlist of qualified candidates fast? That's why you need indeed indeed dot com posted job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on qualified candidates using an intuitive online dashboard and when you need to hire fast accelerate your results with sponsor jobs new users can try for free at indeed dot Com Slash Smith breath. That's indeed dot com slash Smith terms conditions and quality standards apply. Dude your noses bleeding yeah. I think I might still be believing what happened. I thought I had good seats at a game that was stuck in the four hundred that was three days ago. They were super super high up. I felt like I was something Everest. Look next time just go to vivid seats. Tickets are one hundred percent authentic and you can even see where your seat is before you buy. It can't believe I'm going to say this your genius well you welcome. I kind of am we're on the earn ten minutes. Maybe we should get that Kleenex out of your nose. I guess what you're in the middle of the Stephen Swift Show podcast David Stephen Smith Show on E._S._p._N.. Radio will cain filling in for Stephen. You can normally catch me three to six eastern on E._S._p._N.. Radio and E._S._P._N.. News you know the hallways of E._S._P._N.. Hanging out around here in between commercial breaks. I got to be honest. It's not that different than some of the stuff you here on radio. You guys know how it works. You Boy Nuno works my show will cain show. He Works Stephen. A Smith Show Cerruti works the will show we keep talking sports into the commercial breaks and what's funny. Is Everybody tries to what you real motive. What are you really talking about here like me asking the question win? Could Saquon Barkley really see hey. My value is X.. Getting paid why and win will running backs push up the renegotiation period and new no New York giant fans like get Outta here. He's just trying to sow division in New York gear meanwhile. I'm like Carson Winston be happy and I'm being told but he won't he won't do of course wins. No no he wants to be. The highest paid no no. He's not what we're not. I'm not just wishing ill on another fan base by saying saquon Barkley you might want to new contract but you are wishing. Ill on the cowboys was making sure Dak tries to get paid like Aaron Rodgers. Let's go to the Shell Pennzoil Performance Line Jack in Idaho. What's up Jackie on the Stephen? Smith show will cain. How's it going with them in all right so I WANNA make <hes> very subtle but honestly I think Zeke should get paid? I not that I think that looks at twenty. Seventeen season. I Made Zeke was a big impact on cowboys voice suspended six games and visit shelter the crash within and I it just in Zach back. Just I don't feel I don't feel in back with them and the raiders was housing. We have to dump that really. I think that was the question will call he was Jack was cruising right along. I can't believe you would have landed it with just an expletive towards the raiders. He was having like a nice cordial conversation about whether or not you pay Dak Prescott Zeke Elliot I do you think that his landing on that triple indie would have been an expletive the raiders we had a dump that 'cause that's what it sounded like. You always pay the quarterback back over the running bag always always if it's even close pay the quarterback over the running back Tim in Kansas City. What's up tim you on the Stephen? A Smith Show will cain well on the correct on another thing really quick one of the think like why would he have hated the raiders talking to cowboys. Why would he wanNA stick landing with a expletive the raiders? That's a weird like emotion to have if he'd said Eagles got it raiders who you're supposed to hate tim right. You're chief's Fan. Where do ah we do you hate the Broncos the raiders or the chargers the most as cheese fans who do you hate the most writers okay all right and despise them despise them and <hes> don't cost you know oh and he'll ever since ever since they threw in dos and the big old guy through windows out of bounds on those Taylor came up and kicked his ass hated the raiders but anyway but but anyway I you know you're you're a smart guy and you know should know you know your limitations? Zach Prescott is not one of the fourth best quarterbacks N._F._l.. He's GonNa talk this team but he's not an top five or ten and yeah I I agree with you. I don't think I've ever put him in either of those categories right. Now I have Jack About Twelfth Tim with I think by the end of this season this season he'll be in the top ten or you told you said one time in just a fourth I watch it and and all I I'm a I'm a an old man with cancer that lays in bed and watches everything about football so you you said he was number four and he he's not number four. He's not number six he. He's an taught fifteen but having said I want to get back to the cheese cheese have been proved their defense and last year it was good defense that costs cheese. It wasn't the offense right. The offense was wonderful but they've improved chiefs. Okay got rid of Ford Digestion Houston. Justin Houston was good at one time. De Ford was only good. I'm sorry I'm running out of time. I gotTa say if you missed today. 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Radio is presented by progressive insurance. Pick from a range of coverage options with the name your price tool to find a price that works works for you. Straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless lots of stuff to get into today. Terrel owens hall of fame wide receiver terrel owens wins clapping back at me for something that i said about antonio brown sola babies all love. We're gonna talk about that. A little bit later on in the show kobe bryant and uh-huh shaquille o'neal both responding to one another after koby said what he said about shaquille o'neal yesterday or over the weekend rather than shaquille o'neal came back back. We'll talk about and we'll revisit that compensation dwight howard got involved into the mix through no fault of his own shaquille o'neal had something to say about them to swipe at him and and the white howard responded. We'll talk a little bit about that. I won't get into the fact that the new york mets and everybody was talking about destined for the postseason or what have you got smacked around around by cubs last night and now i've lost five straight. I won't get into the fact that the new york yankees no matter how formidable they still look the in the bronx bombers that they are leading the league at home runs and all of that stuff still still. Oh look like they could beat the houston astros. I get all of that. Today ain't gonna do okay instead. I'm a term my attention towards the n._f._l. And two things the very prevalent in my mind one saquon barkley calling himself the best running back in football and number two jerry jones owner for the dallas dallas cowboys speaking about ezekiel elliott the saquon barkley thing. There's no suspense there. The great great tom brady according to reports challenged him that has saquon barkley to do what he did for five years and then ten years etc in other words. It's all about longevity. What do you have inside. Just so. What can you pull off working you be about. What kind of dude are you. Disable barkley did have thirteen hundred seven yards rushing on two hundred sixty one carries. That was an average of five yards per carry. He did have ninety one receptions for seven hundred and twenty one yards that did give him over two thousand yards from scrimmage and now with the absence of o._b. Jay who is now a cleveland brown instead of a new york giant saquon barkley can even be more of a focal point for you then he was was last year now whether or not that's a good thing remains to be seen because on one hand. He's electrifying as far as i'm concerned. He's the closest thing to bury saunders debate sanders there exists i get all of that not just short and powerful with tree trunks for legs but incredibly elusive along the way saquon barkley say walk me as a bad brother but i'm gonna tell you where i get. I elevate in were in a category have trepidation just a little bit when it comes to him. What else do you have. If you the new york giants whose number one receiver sterling shepherd i mean who is it. I mean i'm just looking at it from the perspective of look man. I just don't know i really really don't know i know what saquon barkley he's gonna. Do i really do who doesn't know that. But how much help is he going to have in two thousand nine hundred eighty. I mean if we really really really really be honest about it. What can we expect. I don't know how much of this guy's gonna have and if i don't know how much he's going to have what cannot chewy expect trek from them. These are the things that have to be asked. If you really think about it folks so just doc the line of scrimmage solely going to do they're going to stack the line of scrimmage and they'll take barkley the beat you because i'm sorry dear ah manning the beach you because they know what saquon barkley can do to you and a hell bent on manning and as mara said john. Mara said he hopes to not even see dan. You jones this year. He only wants him because if we don't see him at all that would mean that eli manning is doing one hell of a job and that is what he's rooting for aw so you've got people who are personally invested in eli manning desperately wanting him to be that guy and i simply don't know how long that's last eight say e._s._p._n. Eight seven two three seven six balk the bad boy and i think what you consider his gifts you gotta give him the edge over and ezekiel elliott despite ezekiel elliott leading the league russian intuitive in two of his first three seasons in spite of him leading the league in yards per rush all three years. He's been in the national football league. I don't think you can ignore what ezekiel elliott brings to the table but you can see the eye tells you that saquon barkley could just do things that ezekiel elliott can't do if we're just being totally totally honest. It's inescapable. It's undeniable. It is what it is but as i scoured the landscape and looked at the n._f._l. And i thought about all of these other guys and i thought about my running backs when i did my stevens a list on i take this morning my show on e._s._p._n. Via for ten a._m. To noon every weekday morning molly max kellerman. I just look at it from the perspective and the stanford. I said you know something. If i had to rank my top five quarterbacks in the national football league projecting for the twenty one thousand nine season not even looking at who's the best right now per se but projecting success who would be the top five running backs in the national football league for this upcoming season. I gotta admit to you. It's kind of tough. I got saquon. Barkley ain't tough. I got zeke elliott up their daddy tough. Guy levy are bell. That's tough 'cause he's been out for a year and we i don't know what we're gonna get but i believe in le eon bell. I put him in there. I got to look at that. I don't know if i put david johnson in arizona and the top five. He's had durability issues. He was injured. Let's see what he does now. He's coming back todd gurley. The los angeles rams believe had he not been hampered dead. I want to go championship particularly when you look at how new england's offense looked in the super bowl when aaron donald building those boys chasing around tom brady so one can easily look at it and argue whether saquon zeki todd gurley rolling alvin kamara for the saints can't ignore him can't do that levy on bell right there those a five what about david johnson what about christian mccaffrey for the carolina panthers. It's tough. It's not easy. It's not easy to make these assumptions. It's not easy to just automatically pick who has dude is going to be because when you look at the running backs and the national football link for twenty nine thousand nine hundred there is no doubt that you gotta put takeoff balk at the top of that list. How can you avoid it talking. You avoid it. I don't think you can i haven't ignored joe mixing in cincinnati. That's not a bad choice. Mall and mac had a decent year in indianapolis can't ignore him. Chris cost in seattle seattle. One of the running back games football last year. Melvin gordon is holding out. What if he comes back with the los angeles chargers. The list goes on and on eighties. It really really isn't nick. He's got eight games to hold on his box. Goes was kareem. Hunt becomes eligible to play says he's suspended for the first eight game after his domestic violence issue. The reality is one one could argue. I mean just look at some of these guys dalvin cook minnesota. He's back. What's he gonna do james caan of pittsburgh. We know he's no levy on bell but how now it's the pittsburgh steelers good offensive line future hall of fame quarterback number one receiver new smith sister james washington is no scrub advancement. Donald doesn't have to share tight end duties with jesse james anymore. Still as office might be how about damian williams it kansas city patrick mahomes. You scared to death that he's gonna throw for five thousand your jet again and you're basically kansas city to run who say andy reid might not take take them up on it and get the ball rolling back even more and what about derrick henry it was only four gates apes but he rushed for about two hundred thirty eight yards against jacksonville westbound one hundred and seventy against the giants finished with a thousand plus yards because the second half of the season was just spectacular for him but tennessee is not a team to be ignored think about it. We look at margaret's. Mary marcus mariota they got question marks about him fifty a rookie quarterback entering a contract year so i've got ryan tannehill san ryan tannehill desserts start right now it tennessee to answer that question. I haven't watched them. I'm just saying saul getting interesting. It really really is it eight say e._s._p._n. It's seven to nine three reese seven seven six. You are listening lob to stephen smith show e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. News now let's get to this zekiye elliott thing with jerry jones and john safran zafran jerry jones because i gotta tell you something right now. Jerry jones is thought to make me laugh. He really really is case. Y'all know he's my buddy. He's my buddy ever those who says d._v._d. We know we know he's your buddy. I reckon you ride. A wrecking rat knows pleasure meet my man my buddy jerry jones and his son steven jones the super bowl party roger goodell and the n._f._l. Had that's where i saw and they were so kind the so pleasant me i just i just have to say that you know i didn't anticipate that the it was kind of touched having said all of that oh jerry jones got some issues. Jerry jones got some problems zeke elliott eight there without ezekiel elliott. Nobody's expecting the dallas dallas cowboys to do much that would be except jerry jones listen to what he had to say man of our dallas cowboy football team. This is all all of us here today missing one but we'll we'll have him on the field and i'm not joking okay. He's not there early. He'll be their life so <hes> we've. We've taken many game. We can get him. We want him here early. But of course there important but <hes> we certainly if we were dealing with an injury or we were dealing with a suspension than we would using this marathon and <hes> the you know <hes> fresh legs we'll use him right but we don't have any movement at all and the same way we look at anytime <hes> really we'll get ready for the giants and if it's not there to jazz becomes the next or the next the next or will use them for the players sounds like a good negotiating initiating position if you're listening to most owners and then you remember that this is jerry jones albeit twenty six years ago go it was emmett smith who was the league leading rusher and a super bowl champion there jerry jones played hall ballwig's and made wait two games before jerry jones ultimately elected to pay him and that was after the dallas cowboys started to and jimmy johnson came up in there breathing heavy. Dan was just speechless. I why because i need a running back and you're messing with my team and there's no reason for this except in this particular instance i actually support jerry. Jones is just a touch now want to be very very clear and i want to reiterate my same position that i've always had i believe that ezekiel elliott should be one of the top two running backs talk to paid running backs in all football and if he will number one. I got no problem with it. I got no problem it. I got no problem with ezekiel. Elliott getting paid and i have no problem with him getting paid sooner than later. I just don't think i think that he should be in the leveraged position. Everybody else thinks he should be when it comes to squeeze in jerry jones this particular juncture. I don't mind the jerry jones does making your way two months. I don't mind the thought of jerry jones taking chances to saying okay dak prescott. I'm trying to sign you. Sit there asking for forty million dollars a year. Excuse as we let's see what you do against the giants. That's what you wanna wrote against the redskins. What see what you do against the miami dolphins hell. I might want to see what you do. Get drew brees all saints in new orleans. That's september twenty nine. <hes> might want to see that before. I give you this damn money. I don't mind opposition from jerry jones because to be both opposable in case. It's a dak prescott. You're going to get at least thirty million but is he going to but dak prescott. I'm fixated. I have to get paid more than carson wentz. What what does prescott wasn't asked to do what cost and once it's been asked to do now granted causing a big playoff dak prescott has been there twice costing with wasn't on the squad meaning in uniform when nick foles led them to a super bowl title he was injured. He comes back last year. Even though it was eleven and to the start of the year before last ah five and six and even though everybody and their mother should not costing what's his better nick foles. The fact of the matter is the best ability is availability first and foremost house which cost them what's in heaven is disposal that prescott and you have been available and you win you go to the playoffs at one two division titles to your first three. We give the national football league. I can understand why you are dogged about maintaining that position of not relenting by one stretch of the imagination and taking a penny less than cost but let's keep in mind if you're dak prescott you have not been asked to do what costs and once was asked to do from j. j. window smallwood today's terrence pros or anybody else. We know what the philadelphia eagles success was predicated on. It was predicated on that quarterback dan football whether it'd be the nelson agla whether it'd be <music> outside jeffries whether it be the sack irtual anybody else costs in wince responsibilities far exceeded that of that prescott because dak prescott primarily had had ezekiel elliott to hand the ball off to jerry jones. That's an excuse as to why you wouldn't pay. Hey dak prescott what you pay all what the eagles have elected to play carson wentz but to me. I understand it. It makes perfect sense to me. I was looking at some numbers here and you're looking at the the eagles leading rusher. Their leading rusher was josh adams to get to five hundred yards at twenty one. He had one hundred twenty carries between josh adams wendell smallwood corey clement all right and j._j. Four different vacs barely had as many carries as ezekiel elliott so you understand how the the eagles utilize certain gods all i'm saying to you is if you're jerry jones and you don't wanna pay that prescott more than cost. That's a wins. It's plausible to me and then in the case of ezekiel elliott damage. You've been a knucklehead. You're not act. You got suspended again. Caudal up to the commissioner's office you body checking dudes at concerts and stuff. I mean come on. I can't have that and you know. High goes folks. I believe the more money you get. The more emboldened you get when is particularly when you're a kid. You're gonna feel a bit unbolted and jerry jones going to question that and i think that's the delimited you're looking at right now and that's what you work to get. That's what you're having to deal with and i think that's something that should be noted. It eight say e._s._p._n. It's edited seven nine three seven seven six again. You are listening to steven stephen a. e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. News. I just think it's important to recognize that. I think jerry jones that. Don't get me wrong. I think he's playing a dangerous the game because he could get caught up himself just a little bit and forget that the super bowl title is the focus here. The dallas cowboys is considered to be a team. That's legitimate super bowl contender with their best team in years. Their defense is stout. No doubt about it offensively. You got a quarterback. You got a number one wide receiver option in amari cooper. You upgraded from coal beasley random. Go beasley the randall cobb in the slot and if you gotta zeki elliott you should be able to handle your business in a lot of people's eyes for me. I'm not so sure i'm not a soda some of you. Other folks are it eight say e._s._p._n. Inundate seventy nine three seven seven six again. You listen live in stephen e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. News when we come back get to your calls but i'll also touch on terra loans hall of fame wide receiver calling me out me little old me because it's something i said about antonio brown yesterday. I'll tell you why i was absolutely right. I'll tell you why teo is wrong and a little bit more than that in a minute stick around the test the doubt you're listening to steven e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. News by the way do you have frequent harper like the conway stashed everywhere in case it pops pops up. You know what i mean. You keep your bagley adesco your car or your nightstand. You have those chocolate tablets ready for whenever and wherever heartburn strikes well listen up. There's an easier way to deal with your heartburn. That's problematic o._t._c. Just one pill a day will last a full twenty four hours with zero heartburn so kick you on acid habit. It's possible over policy o._t._c. us director for fourteen days to treat frequent heartburn not for immediate relief. 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News by the way if you missed any of today's opening segment go check it out on demand and the stephen i smith podcast brought to you by capital. One capital one is reimagining banking orphaned accounts with no fees or minimum that can be opened five minutes capital one. Hey hey what's in your wallet capital the one n._a. Member f._d._i._c. couple of things i wanted to get into and i brought up teo antonio brown but i'm gonna get to that in a second first thing i'm gonna get to a shaquille o'neal and kobe bryant obviously kobe bryant sets of things you know if shack was is was dedicated to the gym and what have you we had twelve f and rinks does colby. That's cope and shack look dammit. I mean he did love his big macs. There is no doubt about that but check was a monster no quest biggest subject because i got a sneaky suspicion and then i'm going to hear from jack. I got a sneaking suspicion that so wish shack is looking for me. He's looking for me john. He's looking for me because i went on. I take this morning. They said in their prime. Who would you rather have an my sister sumatra. She sent up in the iran a husband in a wonderful husband somewhere along the way. I just want you to know your wife's in the e. G. number storm pro. She was but i digress. I know a lot of people don't look at me and they're gonna go like this this. Hey shack in his prime. How the hell could you prefer kobe in his prime ladies ladies and gentlemen. It's simple and if shack is somewhere listening. I have no doubt he is. I meant it dammit shaquille o. New is the most dominant force i have ever seen in. The history of basketball only got tapes. We'll table it. I saw shaquille o'neal seculow kneel at three hundred twenty five three hundred fifty pounds as the most dominant force. I have ever seen on a basketball court but i will never john listen to me. I will never ever pick a center over or god or wing play. That's my personal philosophy so much basketball. You got problem with that. I will never take a big man over a wing player or galling because the big man needs to go to take terrible the god god donate that michael jordan was six titles with a bill cartwright bill wennington stacey king luke longleat beat. I mean when you're a wing player. There's a lot of things you can do yourself. When you're a big man. You need additional help so listen. I scared of you. I'm not i'm not as scared. I'm scared amps getting. I'm a big brother right there. My big little brother incomes get here. The big board is big boy but i'm just saying man did not an insult. Everybody's so damn sensitive. I gotta tell you look. I am going to choose an elite guard or wing player over in a leap big man any the data we i'll give you all a perfect example. John is everybody look at me. Look at me when i'm talking basketball john o'hara hanukkah man i'm talking to you hakeem the dream. The lodge was one of the greatest centers to have ever played this game. The dream shake the moves former league m._v._p. To tom n._b._a. Be a champion before that foss lamma jambo to houston houston coca. I mean there's do went to back to back. Games lost unbolt u._s. Dan eh but still did it and see st george lost bowl but still was there. Here's the deal is phenomenal and his great as a came. The dream laws was was and as much as we recognize them appreciate him and know how phenomenal he was was. He michael jordan. Michael jordan was taken in the same draft the greatest coupling the realize what the greatest compliment you could say about akeem the dream of lingerie you you can validate his greatness. The houston rockets passed on jordan and stand buoy before him to take hakeem the dream lodge one and no one in houston ever complained because they know you can't teach seven feet they. They know you can't teach avoid that big would that skill set of course not but still needed. He's filling them jay. Shaquille o'neal is the most dominant force i've seen did win the title with eddy jones dick van. Hell elden campbell. Another seven footer was team. Did he win a title now. How about one penny hardaway and then it's got my brother nick anderson and a coup how about when he had the title no but when he had kobi what happened when he had to wade wade what happened. I'm going to take a guard slash wing player over a big man a seven foot bona fide stenner any day of the week kareem abdul-jabbar the greatest center the all time leading scorer in history of basketball kareem. Abdul-jabbar is a nineteen time all star six n._b._a. Champion who was the old tom latest score and the only individual in the history of basketball with would wanna stoppable move. There is no one else in the history korea basketball the had one move and there was nothing you can do about it in baseball john correct me if i'm wrong mariano rivera to split uh-huh fastball. You knew he was gonna throw throw it. There's nothing you can do about it. Cut up cut. There was nothing you can do about it. Nothing grandma do gos- hook nothing cream. After six rings five of them came with irvin magic johnson five and one came with eligibility the fact of the matter. Is you need a gourd. You need a guard unless you got a phone with thicker. Step away from the basket and there's a threat on the perimeter period. I don't care what anybody says. Kevin mchale in my opinion before tim duncan arrived was the greatest powerful in history of basketball. How many times these women would albert a wing player or god. I'm taking a somebody see that elite. I am taking them before big man. I'm not casting aspersions on shaquille o'neal. I know oh how dominant he is and was i get it but do i want a guy that is completely dominant ten feet and and just unstoppable. Do i wanna brother. I could get the ball to from ninety four feet away from the basket or fifty feet away from the basket well thirty feet away from the basket or twenty feet away from the basket. It don't matter to get into this is not to say kobe was better. Oh he was more dominant shack of course not what i'm saying is that in the sport of basketball a wing player that is a leap can do more for you than a big man who is elite. I don't understand what the complication is. Anybody who knows basketball knows what i'm saying is true. I don't understand it. I don't understand the complication at all to kill. O'neill was unstoppable. You could do nothing shaquille o'neil. He was awesome but an awesome big man whose unstoppable bill is not the same as an unstoppable wing player. It's not the same now. I can't be miniature like my man alan iverson. That's too small and i get that so he's on score you wouldn't scoring titles and he's going to drop buckets but in the same breath is limited to what he could do just like i said it when the lakers played the sixers in the n._b._a. Finals the philadelphia was just celebration. Everybody was going crazy and it could wait until the finals and then n._b._c. I'll never get as long auxerre live. They did this big two hour long special on the seventy sixers in the n._b._a. Finals and all of these guys in the sixers. Let's go six boop bul- bul- bul- let's go search does everybody in philadelphia screaming and for some reason they came to me for the last interview for the show before the game came on and they said all right steven what you got. How much of a chance do you give the philadelphia seventy sixers fixes. I said zero none. They like what what and i could. You say such a thing. I said shack jack shack and more check. I didn't even bring up kobe. He's fourth option shacks. The first three you got no chains and entertain you saying that the sixers will guess what no no no a owl get you one on. I said hey i will get you. One and i'll be damned if he did. He dropped forty eight in game one when he stepped overti- lou but outside iraq what happened i said ju fifty two thousand one cobra your said to the los angeles lakers would be coronate in a crowd as two-time defending n._b._a. Champions that's exactly what happens on exactly that date see. That was the time before i got all my dan predictions wrong in the finals because back then i was at the games all the time sitting press row and i knew all the stuff that was going on behind the scenes so mop predictions will money now added got me in studio all the damn time. I don't get out to many games as much as i used to so i can't not dirt like i did in the past until i actually see the games uh-huh what they stop playing at the finals. Oh my is to the grind then. I can tell you midway through game one wow the series is go in. Unfortunately they asked him about predictions before the series starts and i have been there haven't checked all right all right. Who's got a lover's quarrel. We're going on distracted home united states who can't stay off the sauce aside all of this stuff okay. These these are things that formulated my predictions back in the day but who knows you never know my see me some more games again in the future. Anything's possible awesome an interesting creature inhabits the flat arid plains of the million automobile dashboard the bobblehead it's most agreeable and will not long to anything despite having no brain function but when the bottle had here's how geico not only saves people money but also gives them access to licensed agents twenty four seven online and over the the phone deal not even more vigorously because he knows you should switch because yes switching to geico is a no brainer easy publ and easy. You can get whiplash and guess what you're in the middle of a stephen. A smith show podcast david stephen smith show e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. News coming to you live from above appear seventeen at south street seaport presented by chase our number two up next man damien woody will be on to hang with yours was truly te'o tara loans when greatest wide receivers in the history of the national football league hall of famer worthy of being a first ballot all got jobbed on that issue took issue issue what my me not having antonio brown projected as one of the top five receivers in two thousand nineteen mind you he's. He's missed his strong. What i'm saying saying antonio brown is all world. He's top to receiver in the game one of the greatest receivers we haven't seen in n._f._l. History but projected for twenty nineteen what i'm projecting is that his numbers will slip a little bit because he's playing with derek carr and as a result and along with the fact that the foot injury along with the him stuff the rail tim from spending tom developing that chemistry with derek carr. I don't think his this year will be as good as last year. The year before was would be rothlisburger pittsburgh. That's not to take a stab antonio brown. I know he's great. Te'o is misunderstanding that i a._m. Saying i'm questioning derek carr and jon gruden. I'm not questioning antonio brown. That's why teo was wrong but i appreciate. It knows stuff by the way he really really does to the phones we go. Let's go to rudy. You live stephen. They go ahead rudy. Hey what's going on man. I'm real quick. I wanna make a point a running backs in the n._f._l. And how they how they get paid okay just disease point levy on point right so i feel like they get paid based off of their age and you know statistics rather than actual usage okay <hes> and i haven't seen a team you know besides the patriots trio that has made it to bowl without a a good running game or made it far in the playoffs so i would argue that you need or anything and they also they go top five draft as well as well so they're not that important to why are they you so much jackie so highly. That's that's the only point. I wanna make gotcha. Appreciate the call man. Thank you so much. Let's go to chris real. Quick eulogised even go ahead. Hey what's up steve night. I'm all right man. You only got a minute go ahead. I just wanna say <hes>. I'm a big fan and i will admit i'm a massive cowboys saying had been since i was seven and i will agree with you. <hes> you know we cowboy sans general israel saying next year and that's why they can't make you sick and i used to be one of those sands. I won't deny it. I'm no longer like that. You know i. I love my team gene but i'm sick of saying next year's are year now. I well zeki. I think he is the best running back in football but i will say i have a problem with his holdout out now as you said anytime. He's a cop five pick. They built that team to run the football. Did he not sink when they trusted in that high doc that he would get used accordingly what how he's not in the question. I gave you a chance to get to your point too. Damn long so i apologize. I gotta get ready to get on outta here. Thank thank you for the call but what i'm telling you. Is that zeke elliott. <hes> you know listen. You know you're gonna have heavy usage your starting running back in the national football league. You're gonna get the ball. There's just no question russian about that <hes> but he wants his money and let's he sweat and the usage what he's saying that he deserves to get paid because he's produced and he should be paid is the number one receiver. I think it should be number two personally but that's just me.