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"david sparks" Discussed on The Green Insider Powered by eRENEWABLE
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"david sparks" Discussed on Mac Power Users
"Always by my friend in yours. Mr david sparks. Hey steven happy. Ww dc week. Yes you too you too. i'm i'm very tired me too. I think i've done like five podcast. This week and I've been installing betas and playing with them i. I always plan for this week not to get a lot of other work done. And that's coming true the that's wise it is. Wdc were out a few days early so there's not an episode sunday. This is sunday's episode just now and we wanna talk about apple's nelson this week but kind of through the lens which we normally talk about stuff making devices better tools for the types of work that we do But we also have an interview a little bit later in the show. David you and tell us about that. Yeah we heard from apple about shortcuts for the mac in the vet bhardwaj came on the show to talk about. You know the thought behind shortcuts. We're going to talk about it as well in today's show but it was really nice getting them into answer some of our questions about. What does this mean for apple script and automation in general in the mac and lots of good things. I feel like they did it right. But we're going to talk more about shortcuts on a mac during the show but we are fortunate enough also to have someone from apple to answer several questions today. Yeah you and i both had a lot of questions and i was really great Really great interview. So i think people will enjoy that at today on more power users which is the longer ad free version of mp each and every week. We're gonna be talking about how we are playing and and planning to use. Apple's new focus moats this is a feature that's coming across platforms later this year and davis great piece on it i thought about you and the contextual computing idea that we've been talking a lot about this year i think this new focus feature fits into that really nicely so that'll be an more power users at the end of the show. Yeah well we're going to talk about the feature in the regular show but In the bonus content. I want to go deep on how i've already implemented because i have already done so far down the rabbit hole on this we were talking before the episode started about how this is sort of a strange. Ww d. c. Where normally what we would do is we would go platform by platform and talk about the new features and what they're doing and there is some of that to do but at the same time apple has what i'm sort of calling the core updates this year a set of features that for the most part. There's a little bit of fine print we'll get to. That are are showing up on all of their devices. So a lot of features coming to the iphone. The ipad the watch the mac and that is exciting to me as a as a mac. I kind of person that the mac is getting things. The same year the iphone and ipad or a focus being an example of that but there lots of others will talk about. And so the way i thought we could structure this wing can talk about those core set of features that are rolling out everywhere and then after our interview get into sort of the individual platforms because there is still some stuff. That's iowa specific ipad specific etcetera. But i like this approach. Where apple has a new feature coming to their whole ecosystem. Really and this is the dream right. I mean the for too long they would add some cooling feature to the iphone and then maybe a year later would land on the ipad and maybe two years after that it would show up on the mac and it's frustrating and That's not the case now. And i think this is kind of a result of a lot of moves apples and making we've talked about swift you. I which is common programming framework. Which apple is now adopting internally but they're doing a lot of things to make it a lot easier for people to make an app that can deploy on mac iphone and ipad and apple is doing that and i am really happy as well. The focus mode is a great example. I mean this would be something that would typically i think. Show up on the iphone only everywhere and it's awesome. Yeah it is really awesome. I'm excited and i hope that we see more of this in the future that we see more what i'm dubbing ecosystem features that people out across everything and that's what apple wants right. They're moving their platforms closer together both in hardware and software and so i i kinda think this is going to be more the direction we see as time goes on and if you look at the platform independent features like shortcuts for the mac or multitasking on the ipad those are features that those specific platforms needed. So of course they're only gonna show up on that platform that you know. All the headliners are are across everything. i can't help fill this also partly a result of the transition to apple silicon. But maybe i'm wish casting there. But i just feel like apple is really hitting on all cylinders with the idea of treating all of its you know platforms equally now and really you know no longer. Do we have this worry. That the mac is getting left behind. So let's get into into some of these I wanted to talk about icloud just off the bat. Because i think john club plus plus app abba whether think confusing in the way they spoke about this but all icloud pluses is just any paid icloud plan so if you pay for icloud storage space.
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"david sparks" Discussed on ABC Radio MELBOURNE
"Required, how residents responding and how can authorities convince doubt is it's worth it? He's David Sparks. Closet. Please stand clear for trying passengers and greatest Sydney. It might all same depressingly familiar. This woman is on the bond I Junction line and she's wearing a mask. Live close to rush cutters. They and I'm starting to wear a mask only because I think the sooner we start the better and we can all protect each other. Mandatory mask wearing applies to Sydney willing Gong, the central coast and the Blue Mountains until Monday morning. Well, some people have been obeying the rule. Others are not. You've obviously been wearing a mask. Tell me never get one should be working a mask because if someone gets sick, then everyone suffered. You find it frustrating when other people don't follow the rules. Yes, I would like to insult them. But I cannot masks must be worn on trains and Busses and in public indoor venues, including shops, theaters, hospitals and age care facilities. In cafes, restaurants and pubs. Customers can take their masks off to eat and drink. But they must be seated. And there are restrictions on singing and dancing Premier Gladys Spirit jiggly and believes the public will follow the rules. We know that when we do give advice, people adopted common sense approach. We know when we do give advice that people respect that. But they ease resistance. Bondi Junction Florists Dollar man took says she won't be obeying the rules while working in her shop. Personally, I will not be wearing a mask. And if your customers walking without a mask, what will you do it? They know what they doing, Let them decide, And they're more than welcome to come here and purses. Whatever they want, Epidemiologists say wearing a mask is one of the most effective ways to stop the spread of covered 19. Ahead, he convinced a weary public to stick with the restrictions. It's one of the toughest questions facing authorities in this pandemic. Kate Reynolds is a professor of psychology at the Australian National University. There are some things we know in social psychology that are likely to be factors that shape people's behavior about wearing masks and physically distancing and Staying at home it they're unwell. And these things are that they need to think that the request is legitimate. You know that the people making it our authorities that they're doing it in informed way and that it makes sense. People have to feel that the behavior's gonna make a difference, and I think we've seen that engaging in these health behaviors. Does reduce the load of the spread of covert 19. They need to see other people doing it. People like them people in the groups that have impact on them in groups on hopefully, the more that they see people are doing it, the more they're likely to do it themselves. Let's see a news professor Kate Reynolds, David Sparks reporting them the national Cabinets meeting today in the W. A premieres written to the prime minister asking for a permanent Harding and all overseas arrivals to his state. Restrictions of continuing to eighties in the West after authorities contained a case of community transmission of covert from hotel quarantine. But Mark McAllen's being accused of abdicating responsibility for families in his state hotel quarantine system with security guard at the center of the latest breach, not fully vaccinated or.
"david sparks" Discussed on ABC Radio MELBOURNE
"Our emergency departments, some describe it as the worst they've ever seen. What's going wrong. The world is rapidly shutting its doors as virus ravaged India pleads for mercy and help there's growing pressure on state and federal leaders to lift the ban on flights from India, with thousands of Australians trapped in the Corona virus stricken country. With hundreds of thousands of new covered cases in India daily on the country's health system crippled some Indian Australians are calling for special flights to bring their loved ones home, Stephanie Smale reports. Maybe such Deb's husband is in India caring for his elderly father. She says The situation is dire, with food shortages affecting many parts of the community. People are saying that you know you could have all the money in the world, but you may not be able to have a meal on your table. You know, $34 days down the track because there are no essential services open and there's only so much food that is stored at home. Maybe such, Dave says she and her husband have lived in Australia for more than 30 years and run a business in Melbourne. She's devastated that her husband can't get home. You cannot leave. Those people stuck without thinking off assisting them. So I think they should have special flights which go in and extradite the Australian people and bring them back and they should have their quarantine facilities up to scratch so that these people can come back to their families. Indian Australian lawyer Rita Mitra is more pragmatic about the decision to suspend flights from India today. The former school Adoration for the government here has to be how do we protect the quality of life and the people that are in the country? Especially now that you know most of our population is not vaccinated. Meet the balancing act. You can't have everyone coming back in order, but similarly, you can't block Italian citizens from coming back forever. Rita Metra's frustration is targeted at the Indian government, he argues, leaders played a role in the deadly escalation of coronavirus cases. By encouraging super spreader events you want. I think it's super spreader event is being and hence body in Byron Aura, the Sunday of the bowler when Koji, but we're talking about millions of people that was all supported, encourage and even boasted about by that government land. You know Narendra Modi, who's riding high after suppressing the first waves, and I think that the growing sense you mean the other. He's Now I'm willing to accept responsibility for the situation. The former Australian High Commissioner to India, John McCarthy, supports calls to extradite Australian citizens from India. He argues repatriation flights of the right thing to do and state government should take responsibility for providing safe quarantine when they get back. Frankly, I get the sense that sometimes were little bit precious. In the way that we look at our own responsibilities. I mean, we have maybe one or two cases and state governments get extremely alarmed. I can understand that. But I would have thought that a preparedness to find room along with the federal government for a few more Australian citizens coming back from overseas. Wouldn't have beans. Big Alaska's It appears to be as debate swells over getting Australians home. The country's covert 19 death toll is nearing 200,000. Indian authorities is struggling to supply enough oxygen or produce enough antiviral drugs for millions of coronavirus patients and seriously ill people are being turned away from hospitals. Australia and the World Health Organization trying to get oxygen ventilators to the regions that need the most with more equipment on the way from Europe. Stephanie Smale reporting With no flights allowed into Australia from India until at least mid May. The hotel currencies, Corentin system is likely to be under less pressure, so quote the next few weeks be an opportunity to hit races on that quarantine system. David Sparks joins me now, David Water experts saying about what this pause from India might mean for the hotel quarantine system. Well, Rachel, they're saying it gives the system a bit of breathing space for two main reasons. One is that the well, quite obviously, I guess the number of positive cases arriving into this train system will be reduced. Indian arrivals have produced the highest number of covert positive cases in the strain quarantine system recently, although not by a monumental margin has to be said Bangladesh, the United States and Pakistan of also being right up there in terms of the number of positive covered cases in hotel quarantine in Australia. The other big benefit that they do see from this pause in India rivals is it gives us traer a few more weeks to learn Maura about the new variants of covert 19 emerging in India. I spoke to Professor Katherine Bennett. She's the head of epidemiology at Deakin University. And she pointed out, I guess to put this in a comma context that, for example, in the New South Wales system Fewer than 1% of arrivals are turning out to be positive about at the moment. But what does worry her is that there is still really very little known about the new variants coming up in India. Concerned with India is not only are they contributing more positive cases, but that were also screening for this new double music variant, which they worried about and which might be associate it again with With more likely risk of transmission, and we've seen some recent reports with large numbers of people coming positive or flight. So there's a risk that if someone gets on a plane from India, they have these musicians. Strain that you can then expect to see even more people positive. So this pause just allows us to assess He's very into little further. We know little about it on go also to evaluate that risk, particularly in terms of what it might be bringing to Australia with flights on sale resume. That's Catherine. Professor. I should say Katherine Bennett from Deacon University and Rachel. She agrees that the authorities should treat this pause in flight from India as an opportunity to put in place some of the reforms to the hotel quarantine system. A lot of experts have been calling for. Yes. So let's talk about some of those changes. Are there any suggestions on the table? Well, the first thing, she says, is that she wants the states to be trying to be harder to learn from each other both in terms of what hasn't hasn't worked. But one area she wants improved is testing. She says that you know, people in the hotel quieting system should be tested at least four times during their 14 days. Staying quarantine that is more than some states are currently testing those people. She says, the most important reform that she's looking for, and we hear this echoed among other experts is around ventilation. Now, you might think, how can you rebuild the ventilation system that already exists in a hotel? But Katherine Bennett says. While you can't rebuild it, you can enhance out works. So when the crew did the resetting December they had selected the hotels that had at least adequate of installation and then ramped it up. By adding in extra turnover eternally fresh air intake and so on. Wisdom Australia. She went through a process of reviewing the hotels and recognized him cure wasn't up to standard and yet it was too long for that to be addressed, so that total shouldn't has been operating. Even when you've got The best hotels you confined in terms of installation, what they did in the last reset Victoria was actually investigated. Flow room to room. And she says understanding had held that ventilation works. For example, room to room is, she says in a specific health hotel allows better decisions to be made about how that hotels used. And Rachel Katherine Raynor also says more work is needed to make sure people he is being used correctly, and she suggests that no one should be using rooms in hotel quarantine. Next two families. Because the more infected people you have in one room, the greater chance of the infection spreading by air from that room. And David. While we're speaking about all this overseas travel, there's big news for Australia's Olympic and Paralympic teams, with the government deciding to give them access to covert 19 vaccines before the Tokyo Games in July. What do we know about how they'll quarantine when they come back? Well, what we know Rachel is that that hasn't been figured out. Yet. The Australian Olympic Committee's chief executive, Matt Carroll, has said that they're still discussing that matter with the government. We don't want to put a load on the hotel quarantining skin that what you might call the public system out of the state's main thing is to is to say fine hotels where we can quarantine the time because they start coming back. The rollers and the swimmers with Rover will be back. Before the runners, jumpers and troubles competing, so it's going to rolling process We were working our way through on the state governments again have been very understanding and supportive of how we can make this work. It's met Carol, the Australian Olympic Committee's chief executive, and before him, our reporter David Sparks. Reverend Tim Costello is the executive director of Mica, Australia, Coalition of Christian Aid and development agencies and the former head of World Vision Australia. He told me earlier he's being personally affected by the covert crisis in India. And his plays the Australian government is offering help. It has been on emotional time for May..
"david sparks" Discussed on ABC Radio MELBOURNE
"State election to invest more money in the health system as Manu does very well from the redistribution of goods and services tax. Unfortunately, that money hasn't been used the way it was intended. Now I understand the argument that this isn't mandated use of that money, but it seems entirely wrong. When we clearly have such a maid that that money is from being used in that way, And that's Dr Frank Nicolas and the chair of the Royal Hobart Hospitals, Medical Staff Association and cement the Donovan reporting them. In all interview Tasmania's opposition later Rebecca want tomorrow, and Premier Peter got one on Friday. Australia's Olympic Compare Olympic athletes have been bumped up the waiting list for covert 19 vaccines so they can get their shots before the Tokyo Games, which begin in July. Tokyo in other parts of Japan around a third way state of emergency with the number of new infections in the country rising above 5000 Day. Australia's decision to inoculate its athletes comes while many people with disabilities and their carriers is still waiting for their shots. David Sparks has more For Australia's athletes, The Olympic dream is tantalizingly close. Paralympic cyclist Carol Cook already has three gold medals from London on Rio, but she's chasing Maura in Tokyo. I am riding upwards of 250 to almost 300, kilometers a week with three gym sessions thrown in there when I can It's just a never ending want for perfection? I guess you could say now she'll be among the more than 2000 Ozzy athletes in the support staff, adding one more thing to their preparation. Covert vaccine. The federal government has agreed to prioritize them in the one B category of the vaccine. Roll it, I think for the Paralympians. I mean, I can't speak for the Olympians. I do think it's probably good. That they're you know, the Olympians are walking into a time bomb. I think like it's it's so bad right now, and the waves just seem to keep coming, so I think it is really good. For Paralympians. I know minor already locked in because of my compromised immune system, So I'm actually having my first vaccination on May 3rd And so that's Monday. I know you say can't speak for Olympians. You're you speak as a paralympian. But do you think in the case of Olympians? You think they deserve to get by virtue of the fact that they're trying so hard and they're heading overseas to represent a straight You think they deserve that priority. I do. I do. You know, I said back in January. When I spoke to I said that I I honestly believe that frontline workers and the elderly should be first in line and I still believe that But people have to put their hands up to have it done, and the rollout has to be targeted Those people which I don't believe it's been done very well. Um, but These athletes have trained and trained and trained so hard and I know I know how hard I've trained. The Sports Minister Richard Colbert has rejected suggestions that athletes don't deserve to be bumped up the whiting list. It was never going to be that we would finish my name before we started one day or we would finish one before we started to away. There was always some anticipated overlap. On. So while the roller continues through one eye, then the the athletes will have the opportunity to be vaccinated as part of one boot, which has already commenced. The Australian Olympic Committee has welcomed to the vaccine decision. But what we don't know is where athletes will quarantine when it's time to come home. You see Chief Executive Matt Carroll because they're all coming back around a better thousands of strangers coming back at the time. We don't want to put a load on the hotel, quarantining Skip what you might call the public system out of the states. Working closely with state governments and federal governments. For it was still 14 days. It's still has to be quarantined. But the most spoke one with less than three months until the Games begin. And Japan still under a state of emergency. As it battles rising covert cases, will the Olympics really go ahead? The Richard Barca is co director of the Olympic research network at Victoria University in Melbourne. All indicators are they're going to go ahead, Although they're still talk about the you know they could be cat canceled or postponed. I in favor of a postponement if the covert situation does not improve, and there's so much backlash to them. Going ahead, but you know they they could be canceled Still, and that's ah, distinct possibility. But I would prefer postponement. There's nothing in the Olympic schedule. That doesn't mean they couldn't postpone at a cost, of course, and not what the IOC radio sear the athletes or media or sponsors want. But they you know that still is on the cards. And that's Dr Richard Back at the co director of the Olympic Research Network at Victoria University. David Sparks reporting them you're listening to am at 17 past eight..
"david sparks" Discussed on Coaching for Leaders
"A you've created this incredible field guide. I've been going through over the last few days and have picked up a bunch of things that i'm adding onto my workflow. Would you share a bit about what it is. And what folks would get if they if they went in on it. Yeah so. I have made have written books over the years but now my field guys are largely video tutorials or video courses. I find it just a much better way to teach this material because it's not enough for me to tell you how to check boxes in computer. It's better if you just watch me do it. And then you can kind of follow on and so. That's how i'm doing these days. If you gotta learn dot max sparky dot com. You'll find all the different courses that i've made over the years and the paperless one is the most recent field guide that i've released. Its long course. It's almost seven hours. So sorry about that but i I really go deep on it. It's ninety five videos breaking down all of these four components it's got app recommendations and tutorials and through the whole process. It is very much directed at apple centric technology. So if you're on macs iphones ipads. You're gonna like it each one of these steps. I've covered both for mobile and laptop and desktop. So if you just have iphone ipad. there's a whole half the course for you basically but also. I think that some of the best practices in there could probably be applied to be seen that. It's really aimed at at apple stuff. But like i said it's ninety six videos seven hours of content. Everything's downloadable everything is closed captioned. Then there's some downloadable content as well in terms of tutorial file was and things like that. It's i'm really proud of it and it came a great note. It's been out now a few months. And i've heard from so many people that have got their paperless gino system down the course. And that's really the reason. I do that stuff bonding i think have purchased every guide you've done over the last decade and they're just so well done and it's so if you wanna get into the detail you can by the way if you don't need to watch all seven or eight hours you can just pick up some of the key sections. Which is what. I've done recently and it is if you just take one or two things and start doing it consistently you're gonna find. I think you'll it's a little bit of investment of time but you'll save so much time in the long run on getting better at this so i'm going to get the links in this week's weekly leadership guide and the episode notes learn dot sparky dot.
"david sparks" Discussed on Coaching for Leaders
"A pc of you know even five years ago so the oc are now is done on board. There's no user interaction and it really. It adds almost no sized to the imaging at odds texting the image. But it doesn't really take a lot more space in the file size. I recommend everybody. Oc are every document that they scan because just think about sitting your computer and searching the computer for a document and finding the needle in the haystack. The technology behind this is really remarkable. End this is ben. Power tip that. I've snagged from you over the years in being able to on my mac to run a search and because all the pdf's our yard. I can type a search term and it literally finds words inside documents. So even if i don't know the title of the document name or when it was if i just search for the term it'll it'll pull things up. It's really amazing. Yeah it's great extra huge difference. Well this takes us into processing. Which is once you've got the document captured in some way. A do you actually do with it and one of the things that you have. I've seen you use over. The years is something you call an action folder. And i'm wondering if you could tell me a bit about the logic behind using something like that. Yeah well i mean there's two there's two procedures here. Capture is the manual labor capture. You can do it or if you've got an assistant they can do it for you. It's not something that requires direct interaction. You know but then the second piece of it is organizing it which requires you to make decisions. And i don't necessarily do those things at the same time. Usually what i do with my paper is i. Let it accumulate. During the week. I read it as it comes in but then on the weekend i sit up a document scanner to scan everything and then organize it at the same time and what i do is i dump it into a folder. Us apple technology. So i have foldable action on my mac and then there is an app on the mac that really is not matched on the pc unfortunately called hazel..
"david sparks" Discussed on Coaching for Leaders
"The outcome that you're wanting for people sanity. Honestly i mean me being a business lawyer telling people how to go. Paperless is almost like a bartender. Giving you advice on how to stop drinking my profession in particular is horrible about generating paper and will really got me interested in it was looking at the tremendous amount of waste and paper floating around in a law office and thinking that there has to be a better way and one of the big problems with paperless for the longest time and i think a lot of people still have this misguided notion that in order to go paperless you have to buy a twenty thousand dollars software package and train all your staff you know and do well. It's not that hard you know. People make it harder than they than it should be in. Then there's a bunch of vendors out there getting rich or you know. I guess running their businesses by making it sound like a hard problem and it really. Isn't that hard there. There is a really big mental obstacle. I think for a lot of us when we think about getting better with organizing our papers and i can speak to that in that i went through that i think it was nine years ago. Or so. you published the first edition of your paperless book. And i read the book and i looked behind me in my office at all of the file cabinets that have been there on papers and tax returns and documents that i had saved over the years and i had this thought of. There's no way. I can spend days of my life going through and scanning all this paper and getting it all organized into a digital system or hiring someone to do that. That's just not going to ever happen. And then i don't know if it was something you wrote or came to this conclusion myself but at some point i got to thinking about that You know there's that quote of best time to plant a tree twenty years ago..
"david sparks" Discussed on Coaching for Leaders
"Leaders need to have a broad skill set in order to do their jobs. Well and that means the people skills we talk about on the show. It means being effective coaches. It means being able to give feedback and yes. It also means being able to handle technology. Well and technology is something that is a part of all of our work these days and being able to handle our papers the information coming at us and being able to access it when we need it and share it with others is so critical to our success as leaders. Today i'm glad to welcome an expert back to the show who's going to help us to really get more effective at managing our papers but not only just managing them helping them to really work for us. I'm so pleased to welcome back. David sparks to the show. He speaks and writes about how to use technology to be more productive. David is a pass speaker at macworld and a regular faculty member for the american bar. Association's tech show. David has published numerous books and videos on how to use technology. Including the max sparky field guide series includes videos and books on managing email going paperless and how to make a winning presentation. David is also the co host of the popular mac. Power users automakers and focused podcasts. When not speaking and writing about technology he is a business attorney. Right here in my backyard and orange county california david. Welcome back to the show thanks. It's real nice coming back. I have been learning from you so much over the years which maybe say more about in a bit but before we get into some of the practical things we can do around managing her papers. I i'm sort of curious. What got you started down this journey. Because you've been writing and teaching people about managing their papers well for almost a decade. Now i you know. I have always been a nerd. I mean it just. I remember so. I'm in my fifties now. I remember when as a kid getting a mechanical calculator you would stick a pin in it and slide the numbers and it would have little tumblers in it and i mean so from the beginning. I've anything technology related has fascinated me. And that's just always been a running through my life and i'm a small firm attorney but i did a lot of cases or do a lot of the big firms and the advantage have i've always felt like was the tactical use of technology understanding how it works making it work for me can allow me to be way more productive. So that's just always been a thing for me. And you know. I just kind of stumbled into mac. Sparky it it..
Brett Terpstra's New Robe
"Everyone. This is David sparks. Joined by my fellow co-hosts, Mr Even Occa- Steven. How are you today I'm good David. How're you? Doing very well, we have a guest today. It's a guy you've never heard of we've never had him on the power users before. Kidding Bread Terpstra welcome to the MAC packagers. It's an honor to be here. As always you may be the most frequent guests I think we need to have a system we need like make a sweater or maybe a bathrobe for you. Logo on the five five timers club. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. What would you be Terry cloth guy or would you want like some other fabric Terry cloth all the way. I am not a Silk Road kind of guy. I could see. I. Think. You would look pretty good in a silk robe only when I'm boxing. Maybe in, you need a type. Guys. ARE USERS Read Terpstra is one of my favorite nerds and yours he has all sorts of cool ideas and it's always fun having him on the show and I realize it's been too long. So you're here today Brett before we get started just a couple announcements sign up for the MP newsletter game. We put the the link in the show notes and then you get the show notes and a little bit of extra stuff thrown at you every Sunday. When we release. you can go over to the forums at talked backpackers dot com. and. Announce -ment. I'm doing a free keyboard Maestro Wepener I've been thinking about doing this part of these field guides for a long time. I finally got the system set up to do it. it's going to be free to everybody. You don't have to be a field guide customer and It's going to be a lot of fun. I'M GONNA talk about context base control of Mac Keyboard Maestro. I've got this really cool thing I've been doing lately based on whether I'm working on legal or Mex- sparky or whatever, and the tools I need just pop up in it makes working really fast and I'm going to share all that magic through Keyboard Maestro I'm GonNa have a special guest or to Rosemary Orchard already in and it's open to everyone free on August twenty seventh at ten am Pacific. If you're interested go to Mex- BARCA DOT COM to sign up. That was a pretty compressed little bit there. Don't you think Stephen? Yeah it was great. That was the elevator pitch like now we're on Iran or and breath waiting for us here. Yeah, and Brett is sitting right here saying, Hey, guys what the heck am under show. I'm good. You know we haven't talked to you about long time is I don't even know what hardware using these days I mean a still using that. So rocking that Atari. Se. No. I was part of a startup that went sideways. But as a result I got myself a new well new ISH sixteen fifteen. Oh, what year. No mine's a fifteen inch. I got this like a month before the sixteenth in was announced. So I still have a butterfly keyboard. That's awesome. But I use it mostly with my my ultimate hacking keyboard anyways. So. I do hate the keyboard I will say when I have to use it as a laptop I do hate the keyboard, but I do and this is an unpopular opinion but I love the touch bar. Yeah. Why I have a lot of fun with the touch bar I have it programmed so that when I'm in the shell when I cd into a directory, it checks for one of 'em. I've I have a thing called. How's it? Which is basically Make files for task runners. And so when I see the into directory figures out what tasks I have that I can run and gives me buttons for them and the Toolbar. The touch bar. And I find it just really handy. I never have to try to remember do I have this setup with Gulp or grunt or maker Rake I just have buttons that pop up for me. It's awesome. Now are you customizing touch bar with better touch tool or did you do something else? So okay. So the the customization I just described was all done through. I. Term. Which has escape code you can send to modify the touch bar, but I do also use. Better touched tool and have you seen what's it called Golden? Do. You know what I'm talking about. There's some guy did a better touch tool preset that has like every possible option for the touch bar. It was too much for me like I wanted more control. And fewer things golden chaos I think is. It's amazing. I. Mean There's No way you can look at it. Not Think it's amazing and if you haven't already customize your touch bar I I would recommend giving that a shot if you have your own customers though. It will overwrite what you have. So sure. Yeah, and it's really not that hard. If you got better touch tool, which I believe is part of set up now. So if you've got to set out subscription, you can download that one or just by the APP the also if you have a setup subscription, make sure you're running the setup version so that developer gets his due for all the Times you use his at and then if you have setup, you should also download marked to and just leave it running in the background twenty, four seven. I was only get you in trouble but. You could do that. That's all insane. But but better touch tool is an APP that you know started out and we talked about on this show often, but it started out to re map things you can do with the the the track pad, but then it's like Magic Melissa Apple, TV remote they just went crazy and and he but giving you the ability to to remapping the touch bar I think is something that for all the people that are cranky about the touch bar, my question always them have you tried customizing it to your own needs what about you even have you done yet stuff with the touch bar on your laptop? No just because it's such a secondary system for me I mean I have better touch tool doing a couple of simple things but I haven't really gone. Full bore with it if I had a this is of course had for Brett is something that you would use more if he could use it again if you had A. Touch bar for a desktop machine or you could have you know somehow with your keyboard, you normally use like do you feel? Handcuffed a little bit. It's only available to you in these circumstances. Yes. Because like I said, I'm primarily my laptops on a stand and I'm using my. Ultimate. Hacking keyboard. So when I wanNA use those cool buttons I programmed after reach over. To the touch bar and I would absolutely love to have a a touch bar An external touch bar I guess that could be closer to my keyboard although it does keep my if I sit too long my shoulders get really tight. So this constant like reaching over actually keeps my arms limits probably good for my health but yeah, I I would love an external touch bar.
Of a Certain Age, with Jim Metzendorf
"L. Everyone. This is David sparks joined by my pal and yours Mr Stephen Hackett how's it going Stephen? It's good David it is. It is good. I have to say. That, our guest today really has on my toes. which will get reasons of like it's kind of like when you show up at work like the boss's boss's they're like and you feel like you can't goof off her do anything I'm going to be on my best behavior is what I'm saying that. Well, you know, well, why don't we just welcome to the show Jim Medicine Dorf Jim Nice to have you on the Mac power users summer of fun. The. Show it was so great hanging out with you guys last month that DUB DUB and San Jose. Wrong universe. Hey, guys, thanks for having me I. appreciate it. So for those who who may not know I, need to give a little back story to. With Jim a lot of you probably know Jim he's part of the sort of apple audio community online but when I came on the show now what a year and a half ago I over the editing that was kind of one of the one of my. Sticking points today was like I'll do it but I when I went the edit and I edited it for quite a long time and over time needed to hand it off to somebody else and. Jim is that somebody else will get into this but Jim at, it's a lot of podcast including a lot on relay FM and I'll tell you honestly we didn't get a single comment the week you took over because you are you're better editor than I am first of all, but it was so seamless and you're so good to work with and. That's all great. But you're also like this big MAC nurse we're GONNA get into that today. So that's when I say. I'm on my toes. So I take notes during the show via maybe places where we talk over each other we need to fix something and now gyms just here he here's all that anyways because he edits the show but now he's going to hear them in real time just how bad we are at the sometimes. Yeah. Jim. Is The all hearing ear of the relay network and I was joking with him earlier because when we record the show and I make a mistake, I can't help myself I say sorry Jim every time and we write it down. So there's probably a super cut of MEESANE. Sorry Jam like fifteen minutes long if you put it all together but the other thing that's where it is Jim here's all our shows before they released. So sometimes Jemele text me about something that happened on focus and say how's that going Wait anyway. But Jim is a pro audio engineer and Mac Nerd we talk about audio workflows and video workflows. Today Jim also has some of the things that he does a lot He's got a small business and we're GONNA, talk about that and he's a musician and we Jim and I got on the phone yesterday and we kind of worked out all of our jazz talk. So we knew ca Stephen is going to. Go crazy if I spend the whole episode talking about it but but Jim uses APPs and technology for some of his music too. So we got a lot to cover today. Jim, are you ready strapped in for this? I'm ready. Let's do it. All right. Well, give us a little background Jim, how did you get all this knowledge and get to where you right now? Oh my gosh. Well, I. The first thing to say is I'm. A person of a certain age I'm forty five to be exact. So wait wait wait. person of age. Forty five. Yeah. I used to catch myself doing that I'm not that old why? Why are we doing this to ourselves Jim? You're good. It works for some of us. Just remember what Indiana Jones says though it's not the years it's the mileage. Yeah exactly. So you know I say I'm forty five because I have been using the MAC for an awful long time. Now, at this point I got my first machine in Nineteen ninety-four. Was a quadra eight, forty, eight V. I'll try to go through the the life history of Jim as quickly as I can. So we can get to the stuff that's of use to will listeners hopefully, but I was exposed to audio and video and photography from birth more or less My Dad was a professional photographer. And he was also the recording engineer for a regional symphony where I grew up. Here in Ohio. and. So really at a at a young age, I would go with him to concerts. And by the time I was ten or twelve years old I was helping him. Rap Microphone Cables and. kind of learning. Some of the very, very basics of audio. Through through Osmosis of. Spending time with him while he was doing his thing.
State of the Apple Watch
"L. Over one. This is David. Sparks joined by my fellow co co-hosts, your friend and Mine Mr Stephen, Hackett Hello, student. David. How how're you? I'm great I you know how much I enjoy recording memories. It just puts a spring in my step. It's good. It's a good way to start the week. We normally coord- these the beginning part of the week and it's it's nice to have it have it early sets a good tone and this week. I feel like we're talking about a subject that needs some love, so I am looking forward to talking about some love about the Apple Watch. Yeah, we've been going through these state of episode talking about the Mac and iphone ipad apple services, and now we've come to apples at least physically smallest platform the Apple Watch. Before we get started the usual announcements, we have a forum. That's really great at talk. Dot mcpike, DOT, com. We have a newsletter that you can sign up for right here. In the show notes and get all of the carefully crafted links and shown delivered right to your inbox when the show publishes, and if you WanNa, get the show without ads and little extra content sign up to become a member for the power users episode. You can do that. Right on. The webpage was sink set of an announcement I like that. Hey, man I'm not messing around today and the the member episode we are going to be talking about Stevens iphone. That is now in the Beta it is. Yep I hit the button after our last episode. I've been running it for almost a week and I have a lot of thoughts. Some looking forward to talk to you and getting caught up on I was fourteen, and we're making this subsidy about the Apple Watch, so of course you put the bait on your watch to right. No I did not. I did I took one for the team. Guys you did took a bold choice because you can't undo it yourself. You got a good apple I have no fear I. Write off the scene in Indiana Jones temple. It was the third one was the third called. Last crusade last crusade where he puts his foot out there and just the leap of Faith I. Just did that for you guys. And a problem I watch still works. My wrist is not on. Fire were all good. It's good. Apple Watch so this was the first product that really showed up after Steve left us. I think so. That was rumored to be the case in the lead up to the Apple Watch that it was going to be kind of the first full-blown product that apple a taken on. After jobs death, which was three years before this. I don't know. Exactly how true that is, but obviously the bulk of the work happened after his his death and so. In my mind, this is the product whether or not the dates perfectly lineup. This is the first product that is the post jobs era, this remarks that insurance for me and I think you could see that I I watched some of the original keynote and you can kind of see that. Tim Cook's very emotional about it. I think he had a lot invested in. It and apple was Kinda got to prove that they could still do it even without jobs at the helm. Is a very interesting product an interesting time. Know. I was felt like they were getting a bum rap. I mean Steve was amazing amazing in. And complicated, and you know if you're reading about him sometimes pretty difficult, but. he got some of the low hanging fruit while he was there like the phone. And I think the PAT were both pretty obvious of places for apple to go. And a raise like well, they can't innovate anymore. Well Ziv got the good ones in. And sure. Watch when they introduced the Apple Watch I think probably watch. Wearing was at an all time low because of the success of the phone I. Mean How many people I don't need an apple. Watch I just pull my phone in my pocket. I want to see what time it is. so I I always feel like they got kind of a bum rap and I would argue that like this apple silicon transition is proof that they still know what they're doing. Yeah, but the watch. was that first big move and I remember when it came out they what they went to the junior college down there and Cupertino that built. Refrigerated Demo area outside. Yeah, it was the venue. They introduced the first Macintosh. So that that is Danza. College had some real. NERD history about it. Yeah, I was in Cupertino going meet some people and Apple, and I went right by that place, and like Oh. Yeah, that's the watch place. But the the initial keynote. Was Interesting I. Feel like the Apple Watch is one of the few products apples announced. Were I'm not sure they knew what people were going to do with it. You know I agree in re watching it. It feels really scattered, and I try to thinking about other big product launches, so the ipod was a very simple device at the beginning. Put your music on it. Listen to your music. You could shuffle right pretty a pretty narrow scope of features. The IPHONE was a big step out of the original iphone. Demo- which courses famous jobs probably best keynote. Broader than the IPOD, but. Still kind of felt cohesive jobs, had that really long demos like I'm going to go to a map and make phone call and make a note, and it was all related and the IPAD. They had you know these things. This device is better than the phone and better than the laptop the watch. Really I think they had four big ideas, so they had time keeping that. Hey, this is a watch. A lot of the original stuff about the Apple Watch from apple is about how exact time piece it is, and how beautiful it is as a watch and. That's that's fine. It was then fitness, but not a huge focus on fitness, definitely like there is now. They had communication which really revolved in the beginning. It's not even part of watch os anymore. Were you had I think it was eight or ten close contacts and the whole side button on the watch the Bun. Underneath the digital crown was dedicated to getting you to this friends interface where you could go around and message, somebody do digital touch right I'm gonNA draw a little fish to tell you that I want to go out to sea, food or two yellow taps means you're late to a meeting. That didn't really ever take off I. Don't think
A Developer's Summer, with Underscore David Smith
"Hello everyone this is David sparks joined by my fellow co-hosts Mr. Stephen Hackett I Stephen Hey David. How are you good I feel like this week is kind of putting the capper on our W. WDC coverage. Finished up last week, we were able to talk about quite a bit during the during ww see, and then we talked about our Betas last week this week. We thought we bring in somebody who has a unique and interesting perspective on it. Welcome back to the show David Smith. You it's A. It's a pleasure to be here I mean I was? It's an honor to be on power users so I'm glad to be able to kind of come in gas lend a developer perspective to all the announcements that we just had. Thinking that you'd be the perfect guest for it by pay, we just had him on and then I looked twenty seventeen, so. I don't know what happened there in my head, but The you know David you were telling me before the show started. How many wwe cs have you participated in a believe? This is number twelve for me and my first one is in two thousand and nine, and I've been essentially attended in some form ever ever since so it's been like this regular fixture in my family that as far as like in which. That's longer than my children have. Our old, so like from their perspective, daddy always disappears for a week in June like that's just a part of a part of life that I'm sure they expect happens to every father in the world. They just June is when they go to California, but that's. It was a very unusual year to just actually just stay at home and be here, but sort of not here. kind of station in the basement to a just a after shift myself to California time, and then also just there's so much to do. But generally speaking, it was definitely a different year than all the others that I've had the privilege of experiencing. As, someone who's been W. DC with you? I think we one year we stay together and the relay Commun-. The but I feel like you are somebody that really always. My observation takes advantage of WBZ. You're always hustling to get to meetings and and get the content and I feel like you are in my mind for lack of a better term, a lunch pail developer just show up and you get the work done, and I've always appreciate that about you. So, let's talk, you know. You watched it from home this year I guess That was that. It was different I. Mean on the one hand. It was kind of Nice to be able to like my wife set next to me on the Sofa and we questioned on our TV, and it was. It was kind of Nice to share that with her. Because while we sometimes, we'll do that for things like phone announcements, or you know other apple events throughout the year when I'm not in California You know she's heard me talk about WDC many times and WC announcements are the ones that I like kind of lose my mind and be super excited, and like it's in a way that is unusual that it's not. As to you know with an iphone announcement because a cool new camera that's kind of clear and accessible, but like I'm losing my mind over some minor thing that they just mentioned and she has no idea and it was kind of a fun thing. I think for us to be to share that But it was definitely a bit odd to. Then just like just like. I watched the Hino, and then I go and sit at my at my regular, my regular office and I can download all the Betas, and like get started right away rather than like frantically trying to eat like an awful box lunch in between the keynote in the state of the Union and then like sometime later somehow try and get the. Betas installed over Chino potentially and not so reliable Wi fi, and so like it was definitely a very different Monday for WGC than I'm used to though I kind of liked it like it was kind of Nice I felt like I was super productive like in a very intense way which? Definitely took the weekend to recover from, but it was. It was different, but in a good way I, think is the best summary for how serve the General Rafeal if WGC was for me. The general take wagon talking to developer friends. It's like it was a more more is week easier to get information easier to manage Betas and find out what exactly what's going on. You're not kind of in the thick of it. But it was less useful of direct access to apple engineers. Maybe I'd say from my experience like they had labs this year. Which is alive that typically WGC they have these big sessions where apple engineers are available to attendees who go into, ask your questions, which is the one time of year typically where you're able to interact with an apple engineer, because typically they're locked. Locked away in Cupertino and can talk about anything related to what they're working on, but this one week they get let out in are allowed to do that. And I was very curious to see what they did for. The labs experience this year and worked well like I think I attended five or six lives, and they were just kind of like voice. Conference calls I could share I could share my screen to to the call if I had some code I needed to show them or something. I wanted them to kind of look at and by and large. That process was actually very efficient, and from the kind of likes to the way they structured. It is I mean they were available to anyone who had a pay developer account so I. Don't Know How many people that is in the world, but it is almost certainly. Probably millions if not. Like tens of millions and it was just kind of you signed up. You submitted a question, and they had of reviewed them the day before and assigned to a lab based on as like, do you? Did you actually see Mike? You had a reason a question. That's useful and. Effective to answer, and it was to the asking esque, the right lab, or the right place and feuded, both those things like I was able to get my labs, and got my questions answered, and so that was actually kind of cool. I think only part. I missed was really like. You're talking about the sexting at the the relay commune. Having that kind of that sense of community and being around other people. Like the idea. Of being on site in San Jose was something that I certainly missed this year, and that's a tricky thing to quantify 'cause i. think in most other ways. The Co like the conference was better for being virtual like the session videos were better, and they were more accessible in the sense that they are available immediately to everybody they all have full transcripts that are searchable and so are accessible, just both from an ex. A accessibility perspective of perse people for people for whom listening to video is difficult. They have the transcript immediately available, and they can do. Watch close captioning as Equally accessible to everybody irrespective, if you have the means and the resources and the ability to go to saint, say or not you just if you have an Internet connection, you have exactly the same connection, and then like all the content was super polished
Our Thoughts ON WWDC 2020
"Hello, everyone. This is David sparks joined by my friend and yours Mr Stephen. Hello Steven David! How are you? Good, I have to admit I. was a little bittersweet this morning watching the keynote. I had a really good time I. Watch it with a bunch of friends, but I didn't watch it with you in the room. where it happens so sad, there were all this year. The first WDC have not been a person since twenty thirteen, so it's a big change. Yeah. That being said. I feel like I've been just as busies if I was there And Apple surprised US this year. They they had a lot more announcements than I expected I. Really expected the snow Leopard announcements. Everybody global pandemic, We had some bugs to fix any way not a whole lot new this year. Yeah, and our Mex- that working at our Max to, but there's a bunch of stuff as we go through our summary of what happened. That caught me off guard. Yeah, so some Meta Real. Quick we recording this. Couple of hours after the keynote, the state of the Union just ended so as this week unfold, so be more information that comes out so this is based on what we know after just a few hours of reading stuff, so the maybe things that we don't get quite right. We don't know that you may know in the future listening this. Please forgive us for the weird. Time shift there. Yes, future you please be generous to us. Yes, I did watch the entire keynote and I watched the entire state of the Union took copious notes and have been doing research, but I do believe and Both of us have installed babies. I've got the Beta on my big IPAD pro, and you've got on your ipad mini, so we we have line research here as well as we talk through the show, an slowly downloading the Mac Os Beta for my laptop, but it's halfway through. It's at a seven hours left sets. That's taking it sweet time. Input on your phone. Already know won't. It won't go on my phone until much much later. I, did I did mission real? Quick before we dive into all of this? Because we've got a few emails about it, Really FM. We have kind of relaunched our membership program and one of the new perks for a lot of the shows including connected another show that I'm on is. Member only versions of the episodes David and I. We are working on ideas for this, but we're not quite ready to to launch anything, but we did want to share that. We are thinking about it. So, you can check out and see what connected of greater doing. Extra segments sort of thing, and we will be listening to feedback if if you guys have stuff that you want to see in sort of a members version of Mac powers, let us know because we are thinking through that and and hope to move into something like that a little bit later this summer. Yeah, WE WANNA. Bring more if you guys wanted, but you know enough. Enough that you have to want it to make it worth the trouble and a lot of the stuff people. We were already doing it. We got a free form. We've got a newsletter we got. We got a lot of this stuff. Already that you get just because we love you, so we're trying to figure out where we fit best. We will have something. Stay tuned. We're doing a show life, which is kind of fun. Yeah, we are with nothing to do super often, but we figured. Hey, it's such a fun week, and because people are at home. We thought we would record this one live so it is live as we. going out to a bunch of people so that that's always a fun funding to. all right, so just want to start at the top. Yeah, we can either go chronologically, or we can kind of pick and choose I'll follow your lead. If you WanNa, do let let's start from the top because they had, they had an order and a plan they saved the most interesting stuff in a lot of ways to the end, because so many changes on the Mac. Yeah, but uh, it was interesting the way they went through today. One of the observations all make about this keynote. If you haven't watched it at home, this was one of the most efficient keynotes I've ever seen apple put on. They were just flying through the segments. There were no silly are demos. There was no game demos. It was like we got this Bam Bam, Bam Bam Bam Bam. Here's a guy from the next platform and. I thought that was good. I liked that part I'd like the format a lot I think it was all pre taped I. Don't think any of that was live. Oh, yeah, definitely. I like that. They were a large number of people who weren't sort of regular. White men that are at the top of Apple. I thought that was really great. And I think they did a really good job with a this is different right, so we see different presenters in different parts of Apple's campus. They sorta played some jokes with that about like the Secret Mac lobbying under the fountain in the Middle Way Underground I got a chuckle. Saw Kevin Lynch in the fitness center I think they did a really good job with this. And while I really do hope that WDC becomes an in person event again in the future when the pandemic subsides I gotta say I liked the way this came together. The first couple of times they did the zoom from one place to the next. I thought it was kind of cheese. And then I'm like Oh this is chemical seen different areas that I may never get a chance to see in person. And also is it just me or has the fitness center done a number and Kevin Lynch? That guys fit now. Yeah, he's got a beard. He's got shaggy hair. I like the new Kevin Lynch yeah. I mean the long pass or the days. He was in fights with apple over flash. Oh I, know! It was, it was great, and it was well represented. They had people of Color. They had women. They had people with disabilities. And it was you know, but it I think in typical apple fashion. These were not people brought up there. Just because of the you know that they were because he their titles you could see. They were people that were working on these projects, and it's great. You know I think that's the way it should be totally agree.
Catalyst Apps on the Mac, with John Voorhees
"Welcome to another episode of the Mac power users. I'm David sparks joined by my fellow Co host. Mr Stephen Hackett. How're you doing today's Stephen? I'm David how are you good. I'm doing great We're talking today about Catalina. And specifically capitalist APPs so we thought we'd have the Internet's favorite catalyst expert on the show John for he's welcome to the show. Thank you very much for having me guys. I guess I'm the favourite and maybe the the only I don't know I appreciate introduction. It's great to be here while you really took the beloit horns Mac stories when apple released east this this concept of Hey. Let's get IPAD APPS over on the MAC and and honestly. I was more optimistic about it when it started than we've had up until now we're GonNa talk about that during the show but there has been a steady diet of new APPs coming out that are built around catalyst since you've spent so much time covering it. I really appreciate you come on the show and sharing some of your wisdom assure thing before we get started go ahead and sign up for that. NPR newsletter. If you haven't already will put a Lincoln this show nuts. Lots of people are liking that. Get all the links from the episode and the information on the episode comes out the same daisy episodes Kinda Nice. Have that in your inbox John. I mentioned briefly. You're working over Max stories but you do you do a lot of things or stories a yeah. I've got a few different roles over there. I mean obviously I'm writing day in and day out with Federico and Ryan I also do a podcast with Federico called APP stories. So one of the things we've done a couple of times now is talk about catalysts lists catalyst APPs on that show And you know we we run club back stories. Which is our membership program as a subscription service service for people who aren't even more of the stuff we do so yep I keep myself busy with all those things John also is a rescue person so so when we were all at maxine together this summer and my flight on the way home got cancelled after it got delayed delayed delayed delayed and so I had to call John like hey? I don't have any clothes or anything. Saw The suitcases gone but I'm still in Chicago. Can I stay with you a night. And you're very gracious assist host me For extra night in your home and so you know. I'm not saying that anyone who get stuck in Chicago. You would rescue but rescued me in a lot. Well it was. It was a lot of fun and you know it's a little bit our houses kind of a relay. FM Halfway House in that sentence you get stuck in Chicago. You know you don't know where to go you're on the the street you can. You can stop by my house. That's that's fair. Well that's that's good. No Chicago a lot so I'll definitely show up up one day with my luggage. Sounds good. Maybe you'll be next David. But you know we talked about catalyst when we did the Catalina show and first of all why on earth did they name a catalyst the same year they're releasing an operating system called Catalina. Why did they do that to us? Guys it's really hard. I know that when I wrote my Catalina Review on Max Stories I wrote catalyst and Catalina interchangeably so many times and I was sure there was going to be a mistake in the final draft but Yes it's very hard to keep the two straight apple did They've sort of shifted their language. They call it Mac catalyst now. I wonder if it's because of this confusion by. Yeah I could definitely see that being the case because it is a little hard to keep them straighten your head. But Catalina Z.. Operating system and catalyst is the technology I guess and and what does the technology do for the folks that that aren't up on this. Yeah so you know Mac. APPS are built with something called APP kit which is a set of frameworks for building Mac APPs and when IOS debuted eleven years ago now it was based at its core on Os is ten now Mac os and but but over the year. The years those things grew apart. And you know I o s is you I kit and and that's how you build those apps and so what catalyst is designed to do it's to bring these two things back together to some degree so you can take you. I Kit APPs that are built on the IPAD and bring them over the Mac so that its simplest top level viewpoint. That's exactly what it is. You have an IPAD APP. You can bring it over into the MAC now you know. It was interesting when this was debuted at W. C. in June. If you just sat to the keynote you might be under the impression and that all you had to do is check a box. Yeah and you know you check a box and you've got backup. It's really not that simple and guests to apple's credit in the in the developer keynotes later in the sessions it was explained that yeah it'll run but it's not necessarily GonNa look like the best Mac Mac APP effort. You've got to actually do some things to make it more desktop compatible. So you know. That's that's one of the things that I think may have come as is a bit of a surprise over the summer to a lot of people is that it's not. This is not just an IPAD APP. Dropped on your Mac. You can do that. And there were some APPS at launch that were a little like that but to really have a good APP on the Mac. That's coming over from the IPAD. You have to do a lot more work