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Typology
"david ride" Discussed on Typology
"Yeah. Yeah, we all need them, and that's what a 6 is. You just have to teach them how to express it without sound like eeyore. And it's possible. I love 6s. They're fantastic people. 7s, how do 7s make decisions? The outgoing, fun, everything has to be fun. Yeah, so they're going to come up with multiple options. For possible decisions, as well as a variety of ways to take action on them. Now, you know how that works. They're thinking in the future, these are people who know how to take in a lot of information, they see overlapping patterns, how things can be synthesized, hybridized. I mean, they're really brilliant at it, right? But they can get too much into it, right? So I always tell them, you know, don't be impulsive, which is a problem for them. And make sure that you have all the information before you make a decision. Can sometimes they'll say, I got a great idea and then they run off and do it. With that considering all the information. So a famous 7. Steve Jobs, I think Steve Jobs is probably a 7. And you say that because, I mean, obviously there's the creative element and the big thinking element and chasing lots of ideas. Because that sounds a little bit like a four. Yes, no, he definitely was not a four. Oh, he wasn't. No, definitely not a four. I would say that because he was an explorer as an adventure. Remember all the time he spent in India, right? He was drawn to kind of mystical themes. That affected him later in his business life. And also because he had a perfectionist streak, which would make sense for a 7. And man, when you read Walter isaacson's book about him, you can see that perfectionism coming out, often in the worst of ways. So I would say he was probably of not so healthy 7. So 7s can borderline on perfectionism. Yeah, so when they're under stress, right? Right. They go to the low side of one. They become unhealthy perfectionists. They'll always going to be a 7. They're just going to look at and you'll behave in the world like an unhealthy one. Hey everybody, one of the lessons I've learned over the years is that not everybody benefits from a traditional 50 minute counseling session. And this is why some people can go to couples therapy or personal counseling for a long time and never really get anywhere. This is why I'm such a believer of intensive counseling and my friends at restoring the soul in Colorado created by my longtime friend Michael Cusack to help couples or individuals experience deep change and half day blocks over one or two weeks. Now listen, if you can't wait months or years to get to the bottom of an issue or to experience breakthrough, you need to get in touch with my friend Michael and his extraordinary team of counselors at restoring the soul. If you're looking to get out of the rut, you're in, but can't wait months or years, call restoring the soul today for a free consultation with Michael's staff call three O three 9 three two 9 7 7 7 and learn how their intensive counseling process can help you as a special bonus just for typology listeners make sure to visit WWW dot restoring the soul dot com slash typology to download their PDF called 5 ways unaddressed trauma may be derailing your relationships. And that brings us to Susie. I mean, that brings us to the 8. Yeah, the challengers. So how did challengers make decisions? Well, see if this sounds familiar. So when aids make decisions, they go bigger, they go home, man. They're not afraid to make a big, immediate gut based decisions. Now, you said to me that three sound like that. They won't make decisions that way. Remember, threes are afraid of failure. So they're not going to take the same kind of risk that an 8 will make. They will be much more deliberate. You know, they got the board out pros and cons. I mean, aids make decisions right from their gut and they will do it quickly, and even if it's a really big decision. They'll do it that way. And here's what I've learned about that about 8. And I didn't mean to interrupt. I have learned to trust the decision making ability of 8 because I know for me being a one that my tendency again is to I know what I feel but then I start second guessing and then I go into data collection mode. Right. And I have found that when I start moving in that direction, there are two or three 8 that I can call and when their initial response lines up, I've learned to distrust that. This is really, this is, in fact, in terms of enneagram, this is probably been the most helpful thing to me as a leader to trust the gut of the apes. And because I know who they are in the organization because we've incorporated this thinking in our organization, I know who the I know who they are. Of course, you can generally tell who they are anyway, right? But I've learned to trust their gut when it comes to decision making. They're just, they're good. Yeah, you know, they're always thinking which decision will maintain forward motion. They love all about motion. The energy is driving forward all the time. And so that's why I have to tell them sometimes, slow down, you know, you could afford to consider the downstream impact of your decision. So I worked with a company not long ago, and there were 12 senior management people in the room. And it was a big company, right? And I would bet probably 500. I'm not exaggerating of the employees of that company were 5s. They were coders. And their new boss was an 8 on the management team. And I said some how's it going? And he goes, not so well. Because they're moving so slow. Well, first of all, all that huge amount of energy that larger than life presence was overwhelming to the 5s, right? It feels intrusive. It feels invasive. It feels overwhelming. They only have so much energy for relationships. They're trying to conserve it. 8s are sucking it out of them, right? And so I said, well, you just got back a whole host of surveys from your people. You had a banner year, what did they say? They're unhappy with us. They want to know what we're doing. We're not communicating enough, blah, blah, blah. And I said, well, you are all 8. You are assuming that everybody is an 8. And what you're not taking into considerations downstream, there are 5s and twos in service. And they're all responding to these enormous changes and they're exhausted from it. They just can't keep up with you. So this is why it's so helpful to know the enneagram. It's predictive, you know, in a way that, you know, not perfect, but it's really useful. Okay, so that's the 8 and last, but certainly not least, the 9s. How do 9s make decisions? Yeah, well, you know, they're called the sweethearts at the enneagram. I'm married to a 9. I'm the father of a 9. So I have some affection and inside knowledge on how peacemakers make decisions. So they're going to listen to varying perspectives. And alternatives, and then make the decision based on consensus. So there are consensus builders. Yes. Absolutely. And they can make great leaders. In fact, I think our best presidents have been 9s. For example. Well, let me put it this way. No, it's not my favorite presidents, but depending on what side of the aisle you are on, you can't deny that they were effective. In what they were going to do. Ronald Reagan was a 9. For sure. Now, what makes you say that about Ronald Reagan? The demeanor, I mean, he'd be off a Camp David riding his horse while people were back in Washington, you know, doing their thing. So listen, I think Bill Clinton was a 9. Barack Obama was a 9. The reason is Clinton, for example, he could get people around the table. I mean, who else but an eye could solve Northern Ireland and the Balkans. As a peacemaker, they didn't have the ability to bring people to the table and find middle ground. And get consensus, you know? That 9s are that is their superpower, you know? When they're in their best space, when they're not in their best space, they don't actually land on a decision. They just keep talking to all the alternatives. Because they can't make a decision until they feel there's consensus or until they've reached consensus or it's because they're afraid of conflict. They're afraid to say this is the direction. Based on everything I've heard here, this is the direction we're going to go in because that's going to disaffect the four out of the 5 people at the table. So when somebody listening discovers their 9, it's like, oh, good, I'm like a president. Oh no, I'm going to have a tendency to wait too long to make the decision. How does a 9 overcome that, what can be negative inertia? It's all about self awareness. There was this study done at Cornell in their business school, and they did a study of 72 high performing CEOs of companies ranging from 50 million to 5 billion bucks. And what they wanted to know was what quality or characteristic did these people have that accounted for their success. And everybody thought the answer was going to be grit, determination, strategic planning, et cetera. And the answer that came back up ended their expectations. Here's the quote from the study, the key predictor of success among leaders is self awareness. Wow. That was the comment. That is the direct quote. So I think in self awareness means the ability to monitor and self regulate your behavior in real time, watching how it's affecting other people. It's not running on autopilot, you know? You're awake and you're aware and you're monitoring and you're, again, self regulation. Well, again, to our podcast listeners, your book, once you discover your number and you read about yourself, like Andy's evaluation tool, but for some reason, this one more than others, when you read about yourself, you can not help but become self aware because you either go, oh, that's me or you say to your spouse or your partner or your best friend. Does this sound like me? Or you say, but I don't think I do that, and then they just stare at you like. Yes, exactly. And the stare means you are not self aware, but you now have an opportunity to become so, because that's when we read this as a family and talked about it as a family, I would get to that part. But I don't do that, do I silence around the table? I guess I do. And now I'm aware that I do. So if that is the number one predictor of or the common denominator among successful leaders, then the enneagram in this book in particular is certainly a tool to help a person if nothing else become more self aware. So that's fascinating. Yeah, absolutely. Now, you recently have had to make some difficult decisions. Yeah, going back to where we started, you know, retreating to management versus leading. Yes. So I want to just talk to you about that a little bit as a one. What was the process like for you in making the decision to close until 21 21? Yes, you're talking about our decision to not have church services. That's right. Yeah, during the pandemic. Yeah, well at first it was a three weekend decision. The interesting thing about that decision is most of my friends who were pastors were wrestling with whether or not not to meet the following Sunday, I made the decision we're not going to meet for three Sundays and pastures called me and said, what do you know that we don't know? And my answer was, I don't know anything you don't know. I just don't want my staff waiting and wondering I want them to be able to have enough running room in enough. A window of opportunity to know what to do because to say, we'll just wait for next week. We'll just see next week. That's just no way to lead. So for me, this decision really was as much about leading as it was trying to predict what to do in a pandemic. Right. So then we shut down. We said, hey, we're not going to meet for the whole summer. And again, people are like, the whole summer, and then again, other churches were kind of taking it a week or two at a time. But again, clarity in the midst of certainty, we can't provide certainty. All we can provide is clarity. We talked a little bit about that earlier. So then as we get closer to August, we realize nothing's going to change. We're not even sure school is going to begin. I just wanted our staff to have a big window of opportunity to do new things to do innovative things without worrying about. Are we going to crank up next week? Or because starting back up in our situation because our environment is so large is not a casual endeavor. That's not, hey, call everybody on Thursday, we're going to have church Sunday. We just can't operate that way. So for me, it really was about creating an environment that was best for our staff so they could be outward facing and do new things in the community. But the process itself, I think, is what you're asking about. We had a meeting with all of our campus passages, probably 15, 12 people in this meeting. And the interesting thing was, I thought it
ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes
"david ride" Discussed on ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes
"Well, folks, we've got a lot of people wanting to weigh in on what the FBI has been doing. The raid on Mike lindell from my pillow are good buddy Mike lindell was in the drive-through of the hardee's, which I believe is the best part of the story. When in fact, the FBI surrounded his vehicle and took his cell phone. The message we can not be intimidated. We can not be intimidated. Brooke writing on our Facebook Live page Todd, the Gestapo is out in full force. David riding in the FBI was born out of corruption and still is today it has always been used as political thug force. And he's absolutely right, by the way. I mean, from day one, the FBI has been used as political muscle. Wendy says I stand with God, Mike lindell, and Todd starnes. We love you, Wendy. Thank you very much for those kind words. Mark says I'm going to buy a my pillow and send it to my local FBI office. Look, don't do that. I don't want these people getting a good night's sleep. Oh, they need to be punished. No, my pillows for you FBI agents. And you know what I'm getting a little sick and tired of, I'm gonna tell you what I'm getting a little sick and tired of. All of these people call you. Well, Todd, you know, this is not about the rank and file. This is no, you know what? At this point, it is about the rank and file. We talk about having what 1415 whistleblowers are ought to be four or 5000 FBI whistleblowers. And at this point, if you are employed with the FBI and you're not out there raising, raising your voice and standing up to this thuggery, the Gestapo like jackbooted thuggery, then guess what? You're part of the problem, too. I said the same thing about the TSA, the touching sensitive areas people. You know what you're doing? You know you're violating the civil liberties of people every time they go to get on an airplane to go visit their grandma and you stand there and you do nothing about it. Well, guess what? You're just as guilty of my estimation. All right, 8 four four 747 88 68. Let's go to the phones here, a Judith in Georgia. What say you? Well, I am an old lady that lived in Georgia all of her life. I'm 81 years old and my father felt in World War II. It was a paratrooper. And I believe that we're in the place that 1938 Germany was, and instead of going out to the Jews, they were going to have to make a Republican. People who love their freedom and their country and I also think reporters are using the wrong program because they don't just hate Donald Trump. They are terrified of Donald Trump. They are so afraid of what he's going to do. They feel like they have to somehow get rid of him. And I take Andrew protest at the Republicans, will always be considered a resurrection and that they will never call it anything else no matter what. You know, Judith, that's interesting you made that comparison. And we have made it many times on this program. And especially during the pandemic, when who did the government, who did the government target, they targeted the Christian churches and the Jewish synagogues. They didn't bother the mosques. Those folks were off limits. But they even went after the Jews trying to bury their dead. You might remember we talked about this. We had the video on our website of the New York City police department going in and breaking up mourners at several orthodox Jewish funerals. This is pretty despicable stuff that the left and the mainstream media have been doing. So I appreciate the reminder of that comparison. Judith God bless you and thank you for listening to. Let's go to Minnesota, James on the line..
Courtside with Seth Greenberg
"david ride" Discussed on Courtside with Seth Greenberg
"Really do. When I look at this region, other opportunities, yeah, there are opportunities for upsets, but I look at this and I say Arizona's got a pretty good path. I think their biggest challenge is potentially could be Illinois. Obviously, the mountain mass gradient is a man known as Kofi coburn, Tennessee, the SEC champions who maybe get up and underneath them. But when I look at this bracket and obviously Villanova who just wears you down with their toughness in their culture, what your guys take on to bracket. Well, I think Arizona has got a very good path at the top of the bracket. And that's really what you have to worry about initially. So if they beat the winner of right state and Bryant and Bryant has the nation's leading Sequoia and Peter kiss, who Bill we're after he would have loved. The kiss kiss with the kiss. And then they would, if they advance there, which I expect them to advance, they get the winner of seat and hall TCU and as well as TCU has played. I like seton hall. I think seton hall's got a great chance to win that game. But Arizona's better. And they can play at different tempos. They're better defensively. I think the Houston UAB game is interesting with jelly walker, scoring so many points and being so dynamic and unafraid against a Houston team that has dealt with injuries, but they're big and they're good defensively. But the bottom of the bracket is a black and blue region. Because there are so many so many teams that can play really good defense and they can be physical. I think the upset in that the bottom half of the bracket is loyal to Chicago, Ohio State. Ohio State's better, but better doesn't always win against loyal Chicago because they're so hard nosed and so good defensively and so I favor loyal to Chicago to win that game. Yeah, they upset I see you there and it's not really an upset because it's Michigan, Colorado state. David roddy and Isaiah Stevens are two terrific players. Stevens, a terrific guard that can do so much off to dribble, David ride is 6 5 6 6, 255 pound undersized power forward that can do just about everything out there on the floor. But hunter Dickinson is hard to guard to deal with and guard. They have no one who can match up with him. And with him starting to make that little 15 foot jump shot from the foul line makes it difficult to match up for them. Yeah, I'm all over the 6 11s. I have every 6 11. I got the 11 when it all four of them. And I think Michigan is one of those. I think that Caleb used some starting to play a little bit better than take better care of the basketball. Just in talking to coaches in the mountain west and say the one thing about cholera state is a struggle with real size and let's face it. Dickinson is real size. Disagree a little bit, you know, just with Loyola Houston, I think he's a toss up. Alkyl random to me, if he can embrace his first NCAA tournament, maybe his only NCAA tournament, obviously we know how good EJ Liddell is their guards just got to show up..
The Kicker
"david ride" Discussed on The Kicker
"Globally were not consuming the journalism. And so I wanted to think of other ways to get at younger folks and non English folks. And music and Spotify and alternate platforms like that was one step in that direction. Revisit your question. I think what lesson of any might there be or thought might there be for all journalists, whether they're at a big or small venue about notions of accessing bigger or different audiences and new ways, I don't really think that I don't think The New Yorker The New York Times part is relevant. I think it's a cultural barrier to a large degree in intellectual barrier that exists, which is thinking about, I have a story I want certain readers, how do I get at them whether you work for the times or you work for the Tulsa world or some small paper that predicament is the same probably neither your employer nor you on your own or accessing those folks. So you've got to think of other ways to get at them. And the Internet is a really democratizing force that's really killed us in the legacy journalism realm, but it's also offered huge opportunities for daring new things like this. So I guess I would say, you know, if you're open to thinking about creative ways of collaborating and interacting with other platforms for your stories, then there's a good chance that you can pull it off. Yeah. I mean, everything used to make, say, makes sense and I understand it, but it is sort of maddening that some of these legacy brands aren't doing more of this thinking themselves. I mean, I'm not asking you to take a swipe at the times, The New Yorker who are great in their own right, but they should be doing the same stuff. And they're not. So it's frustrating. It's frustrating to me. Do you have a sense of on the piece that you are on Libya? Like, I mean, one of the things as you were talking about this, I was thinking, wow, you know, it would be really cool if this story could reach I mean, obviously it'll reach policy makers and it'll reach NGOs who are involved in this world, but it'd be great if you could reach the migrant communities that are affected by this thing. Do you have a sense of whether you're able to do that at all in terms of these other modes of outreach that you use? I think so. I mean, it's early days yet, right? So I can't say with the confidence of data behind me. But look, we this story, the Libya piece today published in Russian yesterday published in Colombia, the day before that in Argentina at the major newspapers before that at el pais in Spain and of the audio major newspapers there. And in the next two weeks it'll publish in newspapers in Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Libya. And on radio and Guinea-Bissau were our main characters from and in Kenya. And so because we broke the rules and wrote our own when it comes to ownership and IP, that's really the cut of the gordian knot right there. If you can pull that off, then and pull that off means if you can maintain access to tier one menus like The New Yorker, while also not giving up your rights to take this up to all the other venues, then you're 80% downfield. You know, you then have to fill the relationships with the other venues. And that's not easy. I mean, I have a person who that's all she does, all of the day long is trying to find collaborators in these countries, be they in radio or web only or magazine or newspaper or whatever. And that the and then lay down our ground rules. You can't touch our copy, et cetera, et cetera. And if they agree, then now we're into a market. We never would have accessed. And so far, it's working. And again, the music project is interesting too, because we've had interesting success in Gambia. I had this New Yorker piece 9 months ago about Gambia and the biggest rapper in Gambia. Had rapped about some of the issues that we were that I was writing about. And I got in touch with him and he's huge in Gambia and he wraps him in. He can fill a stadium in Gambia. He's no one on Spotify. And OS. And so I said, look, would you partner with me? Write a song or three. And in mandinka and let's do something neat to get you known in the western world on Spotify and the like, but also get this content over into Gambia. And that began this really cool relationship where now we have a publishing partner and he's putting out the album and so there's just funny ways that you can break into these zones that otherwise are ignored, I think. Was this an easy sell to The New Yorker to get them to agree to these other to let these other places have access to the piece? I think if you look up rhetorical question, that one is what I think you know the answer to that. And you're trying to get me in trouble with Conde nast. No, I mean, it was not easy. They were great. I mean, incredible. I can not say, and I'm not just saying this. It happens to be true. This story and the whole experience has been nothing but amazing and they've been supportive and flexible. But it was a process to get my agent and our lawyers on the same page with Conde nast lawyers, the owner of New Yorker. About this exclusivity. And but in the end, they agreed and I think also I should confess, there's also the editor of the web at The New Yorker is a friend and he started the same day as me at The New York Times. I started the same day as and Mike Luo. One of our editors is David rode, he is a former New York Times guy. My colleague, Joe Sexton, former New York Times guy. And there are several others who were in the mix. We're also from it. So there was a bunch of folks who knew each other already. But the bottom line is, I think the traffic on the story to The New Yorker has been great partially because of a lot of the foreign non English versions. And so my hope is that they see that there isn't the existential threat.
790 KABC
"david ride" Discussed on 790 KABC
"This is amazing. Okay. Bc cumulus station ABC. Okay, ABC News at 12 O'clock. I'm Kevin Trapp. The coronavirus infection rate among L. A county's Children is starting to fall during the past two weeks. The case rate for all residents younger than the age of 18. Has declined by 30%, but Children still accounted for nearly a third of all coronavirus cases reported throughout the county last couple of weeks. Many of those cases have been identified on L. A USD campuses where students must test for the virus. Once a week, nearly 7800 of an estimated $600,000 students tested positive between August 15th. And this past Tuesday. Jim Rupkey ABC News regulators are working around the clock to support eventually approving coronavirus vaccines for young kids. That's the word from the FDA amid a push to get kids under the age of 12 eligible as they returned to school. Pfizer's vaccine is available for kids, 12 and older Despite the promise of nonstop work being done, top FDA officials issued a word of caution, saying, We have to let the science and data guide us. I'm Sarah Bartlett, a new twist in the me too movement. Harvey Weinstein, accuser and actress Rose McGowan claims she was approached in the months before the scandal broke by Jennifer Siebel Newsom, wife of Governor Newsome, McGowan tells conservative commentator Dave Rubin that Siebel Newsom said David Boies wants to know what would make you happy Boys is a powerful lawyer who was then representing Weinstein. So far no response from the Newsom's A former assistant football coach at a Rancho Cucamonga high school is being charged with child pornography. David ridden, was arrested by San Bernardino County sheriff's detectives last month after investigators determined he placed a hidden camera at Lascaux. So's high school. It was discovered by another school staff member. That gadget recorded images in the locker room and near the pool of female students. Detectives and searched Ryan's home and vehicle and took multiple digital media devices riding has pleaded not guilty yesterday to charges of felony possession of child pornography and two felony counts of using a minor for sex acts. Sharon Reardon K ABC.
KCRW
"david ride" Discussed on KCRW
"Hurt shorelines later this week. Hansi Lo Wang. NPR NEWS New York President Biden honored the nation's labor unions this afternoon at the White House. He also reiterated his campaign promise to be the working persons. President Biden says unions built America and when unions win workers across the board win, America wasn't built by Wall Street. They're not all bad folks on Wall Street. I'm not suggesting that But they didn't build America who was built by the middle class and unions built the middle class. During the event celebrating Labor Day, Biden touted is build back better economic agenda and the massive $3.5 trillion spending package that Democrats are pushing in Congress. Biden says the pandemic has taught us that union members are essential workers. He also urged Congress to pass the Pro act. That's a bill to stiffen penalties for employers who violate workers' rights. And it strengthens protections against retaliation. Stocks finished lower on Wall Street today. This is NPR and this is KCRW. It's 4 32 I'm Matt Gillum, a former assistant football coach at a Rancho Cucamonga high school is expected in court to face child pornography charges. David ridden, has been accused of putting a hidden camera in the girls' bathroom at Lascaux. So's high school. He was arrested last week after deputies seized several electronic devices from his home. One of the parents of a student athlete affected spoke out today Our kids are forced to contend with the heartbreaking emotional turmoil of the unknowns. Are they on these videos? How will victims be identified and notified? Were these videos distributed or sold? That was mother, Stephanie. Her last name has been withheld for privacy reasons, noted Attorney Gloria Allred is representing some of the students. She's asking the San Bernardino County sheriff and district attorney alongside the school district for accountability in the investigation. We are concerned about continued victimization of girls. They're at the high school by other students and the failure of the high school to protect many of the girls after news of the hidden camera incident became public And Bernardino County has set up a website with resources for parents and concerned community members at SB County, d a dot org slash los osos An actor of Little note will reportedly admit to a starring role in a Hollywood scam that raked in more than half a billion dollars. Federal prosecutors say Zachary Horowitz duped investors by falsely claiming he had movie deals with HBO, Netflix and other companies. Darrell Saxman has this story. Horwitz, who goes by Zach Avery on screen allegedly reaped more than $650 million by claiming to have foreign distribution deals for a bunch of B movies. The L. A Times reports that Horwitz repaid much of the money to lure investors into giving more a classic Ponzi scheme. The 34 year old is accused of keeping $230 million for himself. Which he spent on a lavish lifestyle that included a $5 million L. A House and Lakers courtside seats about 250 people fell victim to the scheme, including several of Horowitz's closest friends from college along with their family members. Horowitz faces up to 20 years in prison. Prosecutors say they will seek a long sentence because of the huge sums involved. KCRW's Darryl Saxman. The Times reports that Horowitz is expected to plead guilty to one count of securities fraud. At a hearing on October 4th. Finally a former Montebello police officer has pleaded guilty to accepting bribes to eight a gang member involved in illegal drug sales. The former cop, Rudolph Petersen is facing up to 10 years in federal prison when he is sentenced in January. Support for NPR comes from C three A. I c three AI software enables organizations to use artificial intelligence at Enterprise scale up solving previously unsolvable problems. C three A. I. This is Enterprise AI. And Procter and Gamble, maker of Metamucil, a fiber supplement containing psyllium, a plant based vibraphone, trapping and removing waste in the digestive system designed to be taken every day more at Metamucil dot com. This is all things considered from NPR news. I'm Mary Louise Kelly in Washington, and I'm Ailsa Chang in Los Angeles. What might the future of Vaping halt? Well, we could have an answer to that question tomorrow. September 9th. That's when the FDA faces a deadline to decide which e cigarettes are safe for the public and which might need to be removed. E cigarettes were created to help cigarette smokers quit, but they have become a gateway to smoking for many consumers, including teenagers. And tomorrow the industry could face a shakeup. Joining us now to talk about all this is Kathleen Hook, professor of public health law at the University of Maryland. Welcome Hello. Thank you for having me. So explain exactly what is at stake tomorrow. Like what are the questions The FDA is wrestling with here. I mean, the primary question that the FDA faces is whether they products generally speaking without talking to a specific one. Meet the public health standard that should allow them to be on the market, and that is whether they are quote appropriate for the protection of public health. Looking at the risks the products prevent Brian present the benefits that they offer to the population as a whole. Okay, well, let's talk about youths in particular youth initiation. This is the idea of youths getting hooked onto e cigarettes very early on in life. That's been a big deal for years. Now, kids getting their hands on jewels and Many of them getting really sick. Do you think we're going to senior requirements from marketing like to make e cigarettes less appealing to teenagers? Yes, I do. See whether it's tomorrow, and I think it's optimistic to think we're going to do everything tomorrow. But when the FDA does make final decisions on the jewel application on the application of the over, you know 500 other manufacturers whether they approve there..
Everyday Zen Podcast
"david ride" Discussed on Everyday Zen Podcast
"Thing that i learned from rabbi Lincoln's commentary on this som- something that i almost never think of. Because i don't think of the psalms as being written by king david even though traditionally we say the psalms of david king david wrote psalms. But i don't think there's any scholar who thinks that the psalms are literally written by david. So i don't when i'm thinking about the sounds i'm not thinking david can david riding them but when you think that let's pretend that king david maybe who knows maybe king david actually wrote this one who knows but it's really interesting to think about that because it makes the some very poignant here here is king david who actually fought in a lot of wars it had such a passionate and troubled life with so many struggles and desolation lot of his struggles. Like us were caused by his own sins. It makes it very. Poignant they think of david singing desperately one thing. I ask for one thing i pray for is to have peace in your house. I've been struggling so much in this painful. I actually have been having armies outside my door ready to kill me literally. And the only thing i'm asking for is peace and.
The Bible in a Year
"david ride" Discussed on The Bible in a Year
"Chapter twenty two exhortation to repentance thus says the lord go down to the house of the king of judah and speak their this word and say here the word of the lord. Oh king of judah who sit on the throne of david you and your servants and your people who enter these gates thus says the lord do justice and righteousness and deliver from the hand of the oppressor him who has been robbed and do no wrong or violence to the alien the fatherless and the widow nor shed innocent blood in this place for if you will indeed obey this word then there shall enter the gates of this house kings who sit on the throne of david riding in chariots and horses. They and their servants and their people. But if you will not heed these words i swear by myself says the lord that this house shall become a desolation for thus says the lord concerning the house of the king of judah you are as gilead to me as the summit of lebanon yet surely i will make you a desert and uninhabited city. I will prepare destroyers against you each with his weapons and they shall cut down your choices seizures and cast them into the fire and many nations will pass by this city and every man will say to his neighbor. Why has the lord dealt bus with this great city and they will answer because they forsook the covenant of the lord their god and worshiped other gods and served them weep not for him who is dead nor be mon him but weep bitterly for him. Who goes away for. He shall return no more to see his native land message to the sons of joe cya for thus says the lord concerning shalom the son of joseph king of judah who reigned instead of his father and who went away from this place he shall return here no more but in the place where they have carried him captive there shall he die and he shall never see this land again. Woe to him who built his house by unrighteousness and his upper rooms by injustice who makes his neighbors serve him for nothing and does not give him his wages. Who says i will build myself a great house with spacious upper rooms and cuts out windows for paneling with cedar and painting it with vermillion. Do you think you are a king because you compete in. Cedar did not your father eat and drink and do justice and righteousness than it was well with him. He judged the cause of the poor and needy. Then it was. Well is not this to know me says the lord but you have eyes and heart only for dishonest gain for shedding innocent blood and for practicing oppression violence therefore thus says the lord concerning jehovah kim the son of king of judah they shall not limit for him saying on my brother or sister they shall not limit for him saying lord or i his majesty with the burial of a donkey he shall be buried dragged cast forth beyond the gates of jerusalem. Go up to lebanon and cry out and lift up your voice in by shaan cry from arboretum for all. Your lovers are destroyed. I spoke to you in your prosperity but you said i will not listen. This has been your way from your youth that you have not obeyed. My voice the wind shall shepard all your shepherds and your lover's she'll go into captivity. Then you will be ashamed and confounded because of all your wickedness inhabitant of lebanon nested among the cedars how will you you grown when pang has come upon you. Pain as of a woman with labor pains message concerning kanaya. The son of jehovah..
Band It About - Podcast Series
"david ride" Discussed on Band It About - Podcast Series
"You give them jack. I might you know in front of a big audience. jane now. That's a hog. When khan remember to be. I mean after winter started going down gase and after the toe jam. I got into a band with David rides is a great guitar player. Right now i don't think he A plays he plays with the state brown band and a few others. He's a fantastic plan So we We formed the band could gene in growth. he's partner Was the singer And we played together for quarter. use We we did lots of gigs. I wouldn't sell ply the massive big shows to the With thousands of pipeline. And things like that. That's for sure that's probably happened. Bit lighter with One of the bands. I'm still in now. Which more rock and roll band. Talk thing with a lot of Please yet on of of miley been with blues pants and that was maybe because of my jazz ran possibly See saw Lots of lots of blows fans Since i've come back on your back to sri at the moment i think to. Yeah yeah which got which guy well excellent but probably the biggest kratz applied for bank. The dan dangling the dan on the block to us. yeah One of the band's rhythm cats which jumping with for about ten years now Think three of those muscles. So some of the christmas pageant shows on the On like a saturday morning won't than they spend. Long thousands of people grandma not being typing. Good good fun. Yeah do you have a memorable story. Good or bad that you'd like to share our remember. When i was doing i get what the flint is Uni by with one of the bands of which i can't remember who it was and mock beautiful primer drum kit when all left after the gig are left one of iraq tomes behind and Didn't realize it to the next day. So i went back up there and of course was gone so i've always been sort of craving to get that time back but Whether stolen on at night but What will want that's home back. Who got it back. Give it back now waltzer. Is there a band that you wish that you'd play with all spayed. Lots of good bands. That would likely Bans lot stars and you know banning slot that But of course That was never going to happen. Back in the old days What was his aband- your maybe the council hotel when it used to be locked the big the big papi along the front of south road. Yep okay at the back. There was a big room at the back and they used to be. I know mile review. the code. like cats.
The Current
"david ride" Discussed on The Current
"If you're an olympic athlete. It's a good question You know i. I struggled with that as well. Because that's what people were talking about. Was you know. Should i be a role model or not and I think she is the role model. i think it's time to Let the cat out of the bag. And that cannabis is healthy substance Nobody's ever died from it. Literally one of the healthiest and safest substances on earth You know there's so much that you can do with with the fibers from the hemp plant. Let alone the extracts from from cannabis that are so Beneficial for a multitude of very serious conditions Very effective Medicine and You know we. We have to stop looking at it from the perspective of you know recreational perspective or the whole stigma stereotype that was created in the seventy s with teaching chong and the whole party atmosphere and You know that that's really out the window. And you know cannabis as like you know. Dog years they one years like seven years in reality and so twenty. Five years ago in our twenty three years ago in compared to now We've made such a huge amount of progress with regards to cannabis research the science behind it. you know the safety of it here in canada we've been Legalized now for just under three years. and i think the numbers speak for themselves. There's been very few cases of very few incidents All right across the board with with legalization of cannabis in canada and that was no surprise to You know cannabis advocates So yeah we do find ourselves in a in a bit of a situation here. I think it's a a corporately Oriented culture where you're where we find ourselves with regards to the olympics and the us you know national track team. It's all very corporate. And of course. That's like cannabis is biggest. Enemy enemy is is the corporate world. Well let me ask you about. But you mentioned stigma and stereotype us congresswoman alexandra. Cortez said the decision to suspend. Richardson was rooted in the systemic racism. That she says motivates anti marijuana laws as someone who's been on you've been an advocate for legalizing marijuana involved in the cannabis industry. What what's your perspective on that. She's one percent correct cannabis prohibition was designed to control Freed black slave you know that was the purpose of prohibition when it came about Whence that occurred then we saw you know. The corporate interests like dupont who wanted to corner the hemp broken sale industry We saw big pharma jump on board and to keep cannabis illegal Before prohibition cannabis extract was the base almost every medicine that we used. And they've been since prohibition have been trying to figure out replacements for the natural remedies that cannabis You know has and so. There's so much that goes into what prohibition And why prohibition is still here by. It is rooted in racism. Do you think issue carry richardson's story could be a tipping point for change it will be And it should be You know this this is an opportunity unfortunately You know shekar is going to you know feel the breadth of this. And she wasn't her intention nor was it mine To be honest but You know i think. In this day and age she will find her way and she will be able to feel the the love and support of The the cannabis family the worldwide count as family. And she will. She will prevail and yeah. I'm looking forward to seeing her rent. Ross it's good to talk to you. Thanks for your time today. Thanks mark appreciate. It russ won a gold medal at the nineteen ninety eight nagano olympics. He's also the founder and ceo of ross's gold a cannabis brand. He spoke to us from mata bc. I'm david ridden and this.
Asian Enough
"david ride" Discussed on Asian Enough
"The joys the complications and everything else that comes along with being asian american. I'm one of your host genu- motto and i'm your host tracy brown. Today we're joined by the writer. Nicole chunk you may know her from her writing on life identity parenting or from her social media presence. Both of which have helped me get through this last year. Particularly her work examining racism grief and asian american identity. Her two thousand eighteen memoir. All you can ever know chronicles nicole's upbringing in a white catholic family her adoption story and her journey to learn more about her korean birth parents. They're just all these. Little cultural touchstones dagan small. That don't necessarily apply to adopt so then we're left wondering you know we're clearly not wait. I think most of us know that. And so what is it that makes us asian. Or what is it. That connects us to other asian american communities. Nicole is also an advice columnist at slate a former editor at the toast. Rest in peace to the toast and she is currently the editor. In chief of catapults magazine. Our conversation with nicole chung coming up after this short break dope do go anywhere just kidding. I'm david ridden and this is the next call in september nineteen ninety-six melanie. Fda disappeared from northeastern ontario. Her mother's selene is still searching for answers. I can't let it go. I need to find her. She deserves that much. I follow every tip and every theory investigations that could break wide open with the next call available now on the cbc. Listen app and everywhere. You get your podcasts. Frank carson was a criminal defense attorney who spent years accusing police and prosecutors of corruption. Then they charged him with murder. I'm christopher offered writer and host of the la times podcasts. Dirtyjohn and detective trap. I'm inviting you to follow and listen to my new podcast. That trials of frank carson. This eight episodes series is a story of power politics and the law in california's central valley new episodes of the trials of friend. Carson are available to find them. Search for the.
Unraveled: A Long Island Serial Killer
"david ride" Discussed on Unraveled: A Long Island Serial Killer
"And thought the that was going to be me. He was telling me that he loved me and sort of making longer term plans. You know like how we're gonna be together after. And i wanted to not continue any type of relationship with him Beyond the weekend. And then i think we know he's sensing that so. He's getting more desperate and clinging. And i'm i felt kinda more and more unsafe like he's dangerous and i definitely feel like it could escalate to balance. I just know. I didn't really know the guy. Rachel was right to be unnerved. All she wanted was a fun weekend and this guy was displaying signs of a needy insecure type. Who didn't want to let go but she had no idea just how bad it would get. It's time to discover your new summer. Essentials with that fit fund the only subscription box service delivering full-size self care and wellness products. Straight to your door whether it's the perfect beach blanket a handy wine schiller or elvira gel. Bob fit fund. 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That's better h e l p dot com slash unraveled. Looking for a new podcast. Binge let us tell you about murder alliance on april fools day of nineteen ninety nine twenty six year old. Von lane was found nearly decapitated in our ohio home. All our kids slept newly everyone who knew. Yvonne had a motive to kill her but her ex boyfriend and father of her children. David thorne was the one sentence to life without parole for the murder but evidence points to his innocence now twenty two years later investigative journalist. Maggie freeling is reinvestigating the case alongside jason baldwin himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the west memphis. Three and his organization proclaim justice. Maggie in the team of investigators are on the ground in alliance ohio. The town where the murder happened where they are uncovering new suspects new evidence police corruption and a potential cover up and they reporting their investigation in real time. Find murdering alliance wherever you get your podcasts. Before we continue with rachel case story we need to rewind a bit as we introduce you to a man named lincoln. Lincoln lived in the same boarding houses. Jason christopher hughes aka anti sense and was one of the few people who spent any time with him. I didn't see him with their group of friends. Sometimes he would comment about his friends or about his online friends but in terms of people that he would hang out with in person. It was pretty muslim me. I was twenty. One had just moved to seattle from the small farm town in rural alaska. During the two thousand. I had moved into a boarding house and jason was a fellow tenant there it was a shell. It was very rundown very dirty. Each of us had our own individual bedrooms and then shared common spaces like kitchen and bathroom. So i was living on the top floor and he was down in the basement he was interesting. We would hang out and play back in. We talked a lot about fringe religion at the time we shared that interest which is not super common but even within this friendship. Lincoln noticed some disturbing characteristics and jason. She would talk a lot about his spiritual life including the fact that i'm he believed he had a demon inside of him..
Unraveled: A Long Island Serial Killer
"david ride" Discussed on Unraveled: A Long Island Serial Killer
"Enough to like stand up for myself. I was in a bad marriage and did not have the best parents. So i didn't have any support or cockbain. And that seemed to really interesting in kind of vanessa never did agree to meet with anti sense. But over the next few years he continued to contact her urging her to change her mind. It didn't happen the way he hoped it was two thousand eight. I was in graduate school at the university of houston and i had left the musician. At that point we got divorced. I saw the anti-sense persisting and stocking some of the people that over talking to him. It had become completely obvious that he was harassing. It was nice to have people to talk to. But i can't stand bullies so i would always just get so upset that he's hurting all these people. I can't sit there and watch someone just bully and abuse people's so i tried to help. In what way. Vanessa alerted some of the other users warning them about the kind of individual anti-sense appeared to be unfortunately anti-sense watching her every online move of woke up and logged into yahoo messenger and started getting this tirade of. I've betrayed him. How dare you give information to the enemy. Like you know. He told me. I'm gonna blow up life and you'll regret doing this. He would make me pay He's hurt people before. I deserve to die off far to houston. i was scared from. Cbc podcasts. I'm david ridden and this is the next call in september. Nineteen ninety-six melanie. Fda descend from northeastern ontario. Her mother's selene is still searching for answers. I can't let it go. I need to find her. She deserves much. I follow every tip and every theory investigations. That could break wide open with the next call available now on the cbc. Listen app and everywhere. You get your podcasts looking for a new podcast. Binge let us tell you about murder in alliance on april fools day of nineteen ninety nine twenty six year old. You von lane was found nearly decapitated in our ohio home. All our kids slept newly everyone who knew. Yvonne had a motive to kill her but her ex boyfriend and father of one of her children. David thorne was the one sentenced to life without parole for the murder but evidence points to his innocence now twenty two years later investigative journalist. Maggie freeling is reinvestigating the case alongside jason baldwin himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the west memphis. Three and his organization proclaimed justice. Maggie in the team of investigators are on the ground in alliance ohio. The town where the murder happened where they are uncovering new suspects new evidence police corruption and a potential cover up and they reporting their investigation in real time. Find murdering alliance wherever you get your podcasts. Facebook launched in two thousand four twitter launched in two thousand and six and in two thousand and eight. Anti-sense launched virtual blitzkrieg against vanessa v. This online mystery man had spent the previous four years trying to groom her for his own personal gratification or more specifically group sex when his efforts backfired say the first thing he did to defame is i was in graduate school at the university of houston and he emailed my graduate advisor. And the head of the department about me being an porno or something didn't take it very seriously. Because they kind of do me bud. He did try to get me in trouble with my college. He emails me or mentions in comments on somebody's blog order sends me messenger threats and like this is the thing like you block him. He's got like three hundred other accounts. You never make this guy go away. He told me at one point. Don't even bother walking. Is i have so many. You'll never you might as well. Just never use yahoo messenger again. And i stopped using your messenger. He was bothering my boyfriend at the time. He emailed his job trying to get him fired. I was like why did you notify the police. I did call the houston police department and the houston police officer that i filed a case report with just did not care. She actually did not ever filed a case even started like popping up in sending different threats while the officer was there and she just didn't know what to do so while the houston. Police officer was taking your statement. He was sending you threats at the very same time that that was happening. He starts doing it in the cops reading. I kinda respond a couple of times. And she's just like this doesn't mean anything with no assistance for authorities. Vanessa best to maintain a sense of normalcy in her life. She got remarried and in two thousand ten after finishing grad school. She and her new husband moved to michigan. But here's where vanessa was brutally honest. Her life was not pretty. At this point the job market was still in shambles from the great recession in. Her marriage wasn't doing much better..
Asian Enough
"david ride" Discussed on Asian Enough
"Depress people do particularly parents is that they want to preserve and save their children from this violence and i think many of them naively thought like if we come to the united states is not going to be here. So let's just not talk about it like we're here and if we just don't think about it maybe it'll go away right but trauma doesn't work like that. You know systems of oppression. Don't work like that. And in fact when you rob people that are press of the language that they need to be able to understand their conditions. It's an even more violent experience because it's kind of like you're climbing the mountain of trauma but blind. You know. see it's to kind of feel your way out of it. And that was the experience of me and my sister where we could definitely see all the trauma of our parents like. They were terrified of being found out from other people. They had nightmares about. What would happen. But we're not talking about it. So there is a lot that me and my sister really had to kind of uncover for ourselves and give language to and give emotional intelligence to because again like with a system like cast like we very much think about it as a political system in economic system. But we don't have a lot of the language around the psychosocial dimensions of how violent system. It's been but i will say that there's this really funny moment when you know wants me and my sister found out. We were untouchable. We were like really hungry to kind of read more works about it. And i don't know if you remember but there is a like film in the nineties called the untouchables about al capone and eliot ness i. I don't think i watched it. But i've heard of it. Yeah but me and my sister this on a whole other. Meaning we're like there's a film about us so we like rented it and put it in a vcr and we were just like waiting. We're like what would indian people be doing a modest. I'm like okay. Where point zealots come into this and then and then i was like where we connected to al capone somehow and then when the credits finally came me and my sister's like i think there's no untouchables here. She's like yeah yeah. I don't think so but that just speaks to like how little education existed about us beyond that like two pages in like a history book and sixth grade. But also it's so significant. That historical erasure occurred given that not only are we one of the oldest oppressed peoples in the world but the sheer number of us. Make when you think about two hundred sixty nine people. That's nearly two thirds of the american population you know. Why wasn't there more information. And i think you know now. We see like so much more discourse because of the internet and there's so many ways like oppressed peoples are connecting with each other. But at that time there was like an information desert hence doublets watching a movie about al capone and trying to think about am. I gonna see myself there. You had mentioned that you and your sister found out at one point that you were untouchable and i was wondering what was that moment. I think what was interesting. Was that i had to do like a report about the bhopal chemical disaster psych one of the largest industrial disasters happened right around the time that chernobyl happened and at that time. There were so many magazines of the people that have been harmed and essentially what happened. Is this one plant that manufactured pesticides exploded and just like that. Thousands of people were exposed and people kind of like blistered and chemicals and in many died and the majority of those people that were impacted were dulles people and when i read about it. I don't think i even understood. The word untouchable. But i thought that was so weird and so i just started reading about them because i was so compelled by images and you know the starvation that you have is a brown person with so little representation that when for a moment you saw so many brown people on the screen especially with the sastre especially from an american company. I wanted to know more. And when i went to the encyclopedia to read about untouchables. I think what i saw was just so horrific lake. There was this idea of the system of cast and also like key to the system of cass. Was this idea that the people who are at the bottom where there because they were like spiritual criminals they had done something in a past life and so their karma needed to be redeemed by being put into a lower position and that that idea just stuck with me. Because i was like well. What could someone have done to require. That and i found like in reading that. I thought we incarnation was such a terrible thing. Because there's no way out of it and that's one of the most painful pieces about the caste system is that it has a spiritual justification for oppression. So when i read about that. I was very troubled and i went to my mom. I said mom you know. I just wrote about this caste system and you know what castor we and then. My mom just gave me the look. You know it's. It's a moment that i'm sure every parent really Dreads where you have to really talk to a child about a system that no child consciousness should ever really have to grapple with. And so you know. My mom took some time he said. Well you know her. Ne- we are those untouchables. But you know it's a lie that we could people tell. And i don't you to think about it anymore. We're here and we've escaped it. So i think my mom may have told me to like not think about it but that's actually all i thought about for weeks and late at night. I would just kind of close my eyes at night and i think what could have done in another life was i- rapist murderer was a thief. You know why was i- untouchable. And i would like you know. Think about like am i dirty. You know like children. Think about cooties like i was like did i have spiritual cooties was i spiritual criminal could people see it and you know what i'm adult who has grown up in the united states imagine people who are in the punishing environment of cast back at her homelands. Not only do you. Have this terrible like existential prison that your life is meant to be. You reminded of the fact that you are less than an every single interaction you have. Yeah i mean it's so interesting to me that even in your own home you know. You're not really identifying explicitly as dolly. Your parents aren't talking to you about that. And you said the several times but you describe identifying as dull at american as sort of coming out or the moment that You know your father for example decided to come out as dull it. When he was seventy five. I mean who was he coming out to coming out as dull. It is a very different experience now than it used to be like. When i first came out. And i was one of the first out dull at americans. It was very violent. I would often face kesslers I've had thousands of rape and death. Threats people have attempted to d platforming for simply talking about cast. I've been referred to as a terrorist. Someone even said that. I had hate in my bones and an always simply because i was saying i am daulat. Cast apartheid is wrong and we deserve to be free but the truth adults is so earth-shattering to those that have lived with cast privilege for centuries because the demand for equity feels oppressive to them. Because they can't imagine a world where they would share space with me as a fellow human being but just because it's not in their imaginary doesn't mean that it can't be in mine and i think that's the powerful emotional and beautiful opening that i think the movements of people really create for many people is that as one of the oldest oppressed peoples in the world. We are one of the oldest resistance. Movements and at the core of it is commitment to humanity and dignity an equity. And you know what's so interesting about. My dad is that he always pushed me to ask the tough questions and to fight the hardest fights but i think this piece about him being out with so hard for him because he was worried that he would lose his income or you know the the decades of impending violence that he always had to navigate was very scary for him so the conditions of him coming out had to be quite intense and they were what was happening was in twenty fifteen to twenty sixteen. You know one of our first campaigns that we were part of was this movement of cast oppressed people to fight the erasure of the word delicate and the caste system that was being led by bre medical or caste privilege forces in the state of california and on one side. You had like well-heeled advocacy organizations marshalled with other partners millions of dollars to look like they were the civil rights players in a fight but their arguments were about the fact that cast needed to be removed from california textbooks and that the word dull it also needed to be removed and their arguments actually made no sense. They were like well. If you teach caste hindu children are going to be bullied now. You know. I'm not a social worker and i'm not a therapist but i've never seen any recommendation out of either of those disciplines at say the way to address bullying is to a race history. You deal with it through psychosocial measures right but they had developed this very precise set of talking points because their angle was basically to remove the language that american children would be exposed to understand the movements for cast liberation. And i think that obviously when americans like myself saw that we were like oh shit. You absolutely cannot do that. You know we need our history told and we were just like you know. Two three hundred families and allies But we were cast we interfaith and we were irrepressible. And my dad came with me to every single one of those meetings and he watched hundreds of people on our side give testimony and in giving testimony you know he saw how important it was for us to be heard frost to be counted for us to name our experience because the california board of education wasn't understanding how significant thing it was to race our history from california history even though cast depress californians. Were some of the first californian they seize to come here so it was like doubly wounding so it was in the middle of those intense battles. And you know we were also sitting next to one of the opponents on this issue who was constantly giving threats to me and was specifically sitting next to me to try to intimidate me from speaking. And i think that's really what inspired my dad to come forward nino being seventy four living fifty of his years here in the united states. If this wasn't the time to come forward when would it be an even here. If people are dominant castes are willing to threaten his daughter. He wanted to say his truth. And i think you know like for me. I just feel like that's the profound of this movement that if a system of violence can follow us here to the united states we have remedies for it. I don't want other elders like my father to be waiting to be out and be their true selves because we don't have lost to protect them when we in fact have processes to do that and so. I think this is why. I'm really committed to this national battle to make cast a protected campaign all across the country because it is time i really want the generations that come after me to feel safe and to feel their full cells and to know Not only that they can stop discrimination but that they don't have to know what it is to live in the closet. You know that they can worship. They want that they can love who they want and they can be free. I mean that's just an incredibly powerful powerful story when you when we asked his questions you don't expect to always get the just beautiful moment but idea that it was your activism and your work in your search for you know finding this language but also fighting for your history that brought your data i think is extremely powerful And you did mention. Also that there's this idea of howard why this caste system was transported to the us. I wanna talk a little bit about the state of of caste-discrimination in the us As well as the survey numbers that equality labs came up with back in twenty sixteen. This was the first ever survey. Done looking at caste-discrimination correct. Yes this was the first survey. And you know i remember when we first did the survey in twenty fifteen in two thousand sixteen. The survey itself put a south asian american organizations into existential crisis. And i was like well you know. I think what this survey does. It's not going to divide the community but we're actually gonna get data about how divided the community already is not talking about. It is not the answer we have to begin to start breaking these taboos to shed light on what's going on. But we got a very powerful data set of fifteen hundred people in the united states. And you know. The numbers were startling. Christmas one out of four dollars took the survey said they had faced some form of physical assaults one in three dollars headaches Reported facing some form of discrimination during education and two out of three delegates had reported being treated unfairly in their workplace and those you know first three stats paints of very stark picture. And i think it's because of that that over half the delegates took our survey said. They prefer to hide their identity because of how scared they were. And in addition to the data that we collected in a quantified manner. There's tons of people that told us like heartbreaking stories and it was then we knew as we were assembling this report that we'd really touched a nerve but we had never expected the kind of traction that this report got and so many institutions are now addressing and really thinking about the question of cast because south asian americans are one of the largest growing immigrant communities in the country and we are in every institution which means cast is in all of those institutions. And so what's very important is for. You know whether a university or your workplace is to start having conversations. Start getting ahead of this problem. And i think that many institutions are beginning to do that and i think that's the power of this really amazing civil rights movement happening for cast protections more of our conversation within maury coming up after this short break. Stay with us. Quick question for you. You clean the rest of your body with water. Why not you're behind goodbye. 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Hello toshi dot com slash enough. I'm david ridden and this is the next call in september nineteen ninety six melanie. Fica disappeared from northeastern ontario. Her mother's selene is still searching for answers. I calculated go. I need to find her. She deserves done much. I follow every tip and every theory investigations that could break wide open with the next call available now on the cbc. Listen app and everywhere. You get your podcasts. Welcome back to asian enough. Here's the rest of our conversation with musician and dull rights activists than maury. Sound the russian. Oh rome they're all da cross style. Buni you've talked a little bit about how your work as servants fired by the american civil rights movement and you said also before your music is directly inspired by flock protests music you recently remixed barley redemption song. You updated the lyrics to be about rights. I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about what sort of lessons you've taken from that and sort of like apply that to your own were to see. Well i think that actually black and deliver movements have very long history of solidarity. And i think that's a an amazing testament to the vision of black internationalism where i think many black radical revolutionary thinkers you know saw the limits of white supremacy and attempted to make beautiful bonds of solidarity to try to circumvent the violence of the white supremacist american state. And i think it was. Because of those connections that just as black people were yearning to see other people trying to be free so too were delegates and the history of delayed internationalism is in part inspired by the movements for abolition. And so i think a lot of my thinking and a lot of my work around this has been really to be able to be an ally to black struggle and to also learn about ways that you know. Some of the laboratory practices that we see out of black movements can also be inspiration for the ways that we think an honor and do our work. As at liberation thinkers. The model of the black panthers inspired adult panthers that was similarly determined to save our people from atrocity but to also create an internationalist vision that was rooted in workers rights and equity in addition to sort of your work on bringing awareness to cast discrimination. You you do so many other things. You also are like an artist and a musician and i was just wondering how you've used an photography in your activism work. So you know i think for me like my journey as a musician is really personal and very spiritual actually you know my cast is a singing cast and i you know. I really believe as a social engaged artists. That art is one of the most powerful tools for revolution. And i think it's because it creates a heart connection to very difficult issues and that the imaginary is powerful sandbox to push open ideas that feel really hard to be material in the present time. And you know to give you an example. Like i worked on a poster series with two other arches that had these three men. Women who held up signs like one said stop islamaphobia the other said like an cast apartheid and the other said smash medical patriarchy. The problem came in two thousand eighteen when women activists and journalists were meeting with jack. Dorsey about you know the violence that women were facing on the platform one of the activists that was their gifted jack two of my posters. And you know there was a photo that happened at the end of that meeting where he seen holding a picture that says smash for medical patriarchy and that photo got leaked so all of a sudden you know entire twitter of india lost its mind because the power of that artistic object in the hands not of brown women but in the hands of one of the most powerful tech. Ceos changed everything an overnight. You saw the words smash for medical patriarchy on every news outlet in every part of the world and one day the head of twitter got to experience what it was like to be adult woman and so that to me is that power of social engaged. Art is that when you create an artifact when you activate the imaginary you can make the most impossible things material. So i wanna talk about the lawsuit that came out last year when the state of california sued cisco systems on behalf of adult worker Adult worker who was anonymous had that he was harassed by his co workers who are from a dominant caste and then once they reported this to each. They're actually retaliated against you. Heard from people from across the industry who said that they've experienced some type of caste-discrimination part of the reason a lot of them. Don't come forward is because of the precarity of their jobs and their h. One b. visa. Can you talk a little bit more. About how much of a role this sort of vulnerability of job status immigration status has in perpetuating caste discrimination in silicon valley. While i think you know for people to understand how difficult it is you just have to think about the fact that you know when your visa is dependent on your job the the stakes of what it means to report a cast. This hostile workplace isn't just that you lose your livelihood. It's that you lose your ability to stay in the country and that's devastating especially for most delegates who are the first generation learners and earners for their family just a loss for them. It's a loss for their entire family line. So it's really makes it a situation where people are not given any incentive to to report what's happening and the situation is pretty bad like i know that after the cisco came out are hotlines were just inundated and in the close to like three to four weeks. After the cisco case announcement we had close to two hundred and fifty complaints from delegates. Who were working at companies across the valley and this includes folks at google at facebook. Microsoft apple and net netflix. And they reported discrimination bullying and ostracization and even sexual harassment and firings so it was pretty brutal. And you know the thing that really struck me was that in all of these cases people reached out to us because they wanted to be heard but they had no intention of coming out or reporting because of this bind of the visa. And that's why there needs to be a formal remedy because these companies are failing their duty of care to their employees but also it makes bad business sense like frankly most you know tech companies are doing whatever they can to seize south asian markets because they see the future of the internet as not being in the global north but in countries like india and bangladesh pakistan and sri lanka and in those regions of the world. The people that are the next billion coming online are the cast depressed so diversity and equity isn't just a good moral thing to do. It actually is a smart thing to do because you will have a diverse enough workplace. That would know how to design for that audience. And the fact that we're not having this discussion the fact that you know very few companies have taken the warning what's happened to cisco seriously shows us. This is a time where we really need to have movements. That are pushing this issue. Because a worker's rights issue and this is why the alphabet workers union. You know made one of the most strongest statements of solidarity to both the cisco case and demanding alphabet to add casts as a protected category because they see cast as a worker's rights issue and for the largest union in the valley to make that statement is a very powerful bellwether of what workers and corporations are asking for an will have to move to whether they want to or not. Yeah and Just for our listeners. Who be up to date with the momentum that we've seen around this activism You talking about the alphabet workers union and for those of you don't know alphabet is google parent company. They put out a letter basically asking organization to introduce cast a protected category in the us. They already do this in india but they want them to do it. Globally and also pushed federal government to consider classes protected category We've seen similar movements and other places and institutions. Santa clara recently had a meeting about Whether cast should be protected category Our colleague ninety sarah walker is also reporting about activism in schools like cs you which A recent push to Include cast as a protected category. Talk a little bit about why. This is such an important first step in fighting against castres commission. So i think what's so important. Is that in most american institutions that are governed by civil rights law when you are protected class it opens up everything the things that follow include. Gino starting to collect data trainings to build competencies. And also i think an ability for people to feel comfortable reporting discriminatory situations but also positive investments in terms of scholarships and training for cast depressed employees and students. So that it's not just access into that institution but its success and so all of those things are possible when he just acknowledge that. There's a problem you know you've talked about this immense. Push back to some of the the work that you're trying to do like creating these protected categories and i know there have been protests at meetings from people who oppose making it illegal to discriminate based on caste. Who are these people who oppose this. And how does that sort of play out. Well i wanna be really clear like the majority of the people want discrimination to end whether it's racial discrimination or gender discrimination or caste discrimination. We are trending progressive as a society and in general once people here the kinds of things that are happening to cast depress people. They're like okay. Well that's clear. We need to stop that. You know we are definitely in the majority. We're on the right side of history and you know. This is an unstoppable movement. That said there is a small but vocal minority that you know treats the questions of equity like oppression simply because they're cast privileged and so many of the dialogues at. They're having make absolutely no sense. So some of the things that we heard was that the addition of cast would discriminate against hindus which makes no sense There's also a lot of like hyperbole like if there was the addition of cast i would that mean that people would have to like wear cast brown badges and you know sign up on some sort of a cast list and even antisemitic remarks like you know will you put into concentration camps and leading pretty heavily into holocaust imagery and i think that you know. I have empathy for the people on the other side of this question because their minds are so unable to imagine a world without cast that they are threatened by the fact that adults could have equity and that we could be in a country where we could ask for protections under the law and yet no matter wherever they are in their journey We still need to proceed forward in our commitments for freedom. I mean there's so many of these moments you've mentioned in this interview and just oh across your work where There's just been such significant progress but a lot of that has happened really more recently and you know you are doing this work as adult american woman. You're not doing this in solidarity with a community that is experiencing discrimination. You're experiencing it yourself. You are the target of it as you are fighting for it. I mean how. How do you keep going. How do you continue to fight for this progress. The truth is that this moment is really won by so many people who've sacrificed so much in their life in order to be able to bring the story forward. But i think what really keeps me. Going is knowing that i'm part of a very long lineage of delight resistance and many times when you are born in an oppressive system like it feels like all the options that society gives you are those of death. You know enta- grapple with that death and all of these different components is so hard rending and yet when you read these thinkers and you become part of the cast abolitionist movement. You become part of this like irrepressible network of people. Who are all choosing life together. And i think we kind of know what that feeling is like especially coming out of the pandemic. We've just been through so much and yet to choose life at this moment in history is to choose everything and it's healing. It's healing to be in community with people it's healing to imagine a world where all of us could be free. It's healing to think about love and empathy that we might have together and even if we begin experimenting in those communities that are cast equitable and small units. Those small units become factories of much bigger versions of society. Until eventually we take over the world you know so before we talked. It's time for our weekly segment called asian enough confessions or we share a time or thing. That's made us feel that we're not asian enough so that we can unpack it together. Kind of like group therapy. I'll start with one. I went to uc berkeley. For undergrad and I i went to a pretty wight high school and so it was the first an uc berkeley actually has like a huge asian populations. So is one of the first times. I'd been around a lot. More like south asians who weren't directly part of my religious community I just remember this one person who was indian who i was starting to get to know. We are pretty friendly and they were like are you. Are you actually indian early like like. You don't know any of the things i know. You don't do these like hindu things that i do like Are you an indian. More of a mead. Way that i'm saying but i think there is the dominant like braham medical culture that i think sort of takes a lot of air in those spaces That's really interesting. Like i think asian culture is so giant gigantic and we talk about how diverse asian culture is but indian. Culture is so diverse. And there's such thing as feeling and not being made to feel like you're indian enough so it's so funny that you mentioned that sahana because i had literally the exact same experience where you know because again i am. I'm bella. i was raised both christian and hindu. And you know. My dad raised me to be a seeker which meant that. You know i kind of i did it all. I was really especially if you go to berkeley nipping knows berkeley. Like you've got every single faith there you you know it's really a place for exploration and i remember these obnoxious dominant caste hindu. Kids like especially men. The men were like the worst. You know one kid this. This kid came up to me. And he's like you're so whitewashed and i was like what he's like. Yeah you're eating me. Like what are you afraid of americans and i was like no dumb ass out whitewashed. I'm delic and we eat meat. You know but it was so funny. He was so confirmed on. Like what capital indian meant and that he could tell me i could do in especially because i didn't go to temple and i was someone who was raised hindu andrey's christian but that was ever a possibility in his mindset. You know hindu for him look like one particular way. And and that dogmatism was so violent. And so you know whether it was students or faculty or everything in my university experience said you know why bother being adult and it really erased my confidence around feeling like i could be confident as an asian american and yet when i think about who i am and especially what it meant to connect to my history in the face of systemic erasure and structural violence. It is my people that really hold me up and you know my cast like you know. It's as old as the thirteenth century. And when i think about my ancestors like they were never ever going to be physically materially free but they just loved their children so much and you know every child that came before me our ancestors you know practice. Hope like a micro expression in their mind to pass on love until one day they can have a daughter like me who would be free. Delegates are product of centuries of love centuries of love. And there's no one that can steal that away from us. No one that can take away our dignity and equity and most of all who we are and the journey to the reclamation of our identity is the central path towards our freedom. So i most definitely asian american enough i most definitely dull american enough and most importantly i am human. And i'm here to get free. Do you have an asian enough confession. You wanna share with us. Call us at two one three nine eight six five six five two. That's two one three nine eight six five six five two. We'd love to hear from you. All right that's it from us here at asian enough. Thank you then worry. Sound the rush on for joining us and thank you our listeners for listening and don't forget if you love this show. Please leave us review on apple podcasts. It really really helps people find the show. Asian enough is by me. Johanna via and by me sahana hussein. Our producer is a saul asana. Poor and our executive producer is a centrist swanson. Our engineer is mike heflin. Our original music was composed by andrew e pin special. Thanks to julia to ben music. And then morris on the region for letting us play clips of her music in this episode. This podcast is dedicated to the memory of our founding producer lineup on come back next week for another great episode of asian enough. My colleague tracy brown. And i'll be talking to the media personality and entrepreneur. Angela eat and remember. Al capone will not be advocating for adult rights. We're like there's a film about us so we like rented it and then put it in a vcr and we were just like waiting like would indian people be doing like.