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It's time for some straight talk. If tax refund time Hallelujah. What are you gonna do with all that glorious extra cash a new drone? No ill, Linda from his train better plan. Try straight talk wireless and get twenty five gigs of high speed data for just forty five bucks on America's debt. Ford's me LT network up to two hundred dollars on a Samsung galaxy S nine with in store. Activation. Talk wireless, only terms, it's three times. The NAFTA matter of pulling together a lot the whole Jordan and putting on what I think will be really attached to the sport here. We'll be honest that sounds thanks week as usual and say, okay. This Stoneking result the world could we have done better. Stop looking at it. Like my job back. Back back to really what's changed run. Welcome to Shane van gets from the red Holden racing thing here. Well. He's not a post on rag performance. Because the rules my cab at one of the big things out of Craig was about drawing and safety. It's been an interesting topic over the last few weeks, in fact, in we have seen drivers, you know, like the Baathist last year with David Reynolds had collapsing and the car and showing van Ginsberg and after the twelve hour having health issues as well. Yes. And from that point we actually talking tonight. How? These drives and all drive is really the why which can look to improve the performance drivers. And they and they safety. So we spoke to a couple of health professionals which are on this week chose road feel young who's from the walkman shore Andretti United team and an Email on the same for Arabist is Phil Rankin. He's a new council professional that said in this position under balance energy health, and we'll talk to them like on the show, but first awful Craig Rowland, dine as usually very firm points of view and gave us inside information and number of aspects of the sporting cluding the story you broke last week. We've got Tana's tribute at the one rewrite sway. Oh, the Gilo. I should call it. And what they had a pro what Subic house had approached team. So that's coming up. Later in the show also interesting when you look at we coming to the grand prix, and I'm sure you've got a list of stats on us, but the grown pre weekend is an interesting event. Now that is part of the championship is not it is indeed Costa. It was the same last year. For stop polite to reinforce his place in the newly formed a year ago, the angry United same all control dirty laundry team, and he was very glad to at least get that. We don't off his back. It was interesting also because of the number of teams that did Sean brought me there and on rallied will be looking closely. It's the performance of the Mustangs, I mean, it being suggestions not from him rarely, but from other people around the paddock about Baradji news like that. Well, I'm pretty sure when we're told by number people that the parity was the closest to the head from the aero tasting that it'll make him for good year. And of course, the deja teen Pinski have only emulated really what's the triple eight team did when age views it'd be last year in coming right with twig wins, which was in course, Shane van gives begging twin poles twins this. She fabian. Had number of hiccup says do the number of the tick for drivers who couldn't get a Mustang to the line. But it was an interesting weekend. You'll agree Craig? It was indeed to we'll we've got a number of interviews coming from last weekend. And also from this weekend's racing that will be bringing to you over the next couple of weeks, which I'm sure many people will find of interest, and as we head into the grand prix will also have a chance to have a chat about the full rises there. Because remember last year tiny, the Nick perk had had a break issue and going into that race, and we found out from a pay that it was a blade nipple. Now fascinated that we saw another bright problem at Brad Jones racing eclipse will this year. And of course, that's what kept MacAulay Jones out of rice number one of. Season twenty nineteen same team Allback your point Craig to have a chat actually to break germs also others within the teams and see if we can find that exactly what it was that caused MacAulay. We've heard I king is right on the front to some wave. It will. We'll check that throat. So we cut off the right? We'll start off with this week show and rental and dying his thoughts. They're only on the weekends rising. But also, some big Hewlett views of things such as if you will drop and pizza shops and various other items. I could break it's rolling by each week joined the in flight motorsport team as I look at all the news from across the scarlet and around the world. Thank the roads. Zik spoilt with interviews news and opinion, go to put money back into the sport at the lower levels to develop the kids and bring them up. You can't rely on luck for Daniel Ricardo's all manned without a few mites. Tips and money in and send him the series. You're actually needs to be structured lettuce for broadcast community radio and online at sport radio dot com. You the views expressed on inside supercars, including the panelists and guests do not reflect the views of the network. Thunder media will sport radio any publication will rebroadcast of the show without the express. Written permission of funding media is strictly prohibited. Dick Johnson from Team Penske, and you're on intuitive roller diner inside so because tough weight gain. But Shane said yesterday that we think we're having a bad day, but wind up on the podium still. I mean, we've we've had three three podiums and into racist. So we'll take that. I'm not quite sure where over championship points our other than oversea Scotties leading. But. But we're leading the team championship. So so solid star. But yeah, with was Sunday going to have to find some answers to some of the questions that have been raised me to guess today in the press conference of that. And you could see some deficiencies he didn't talk. Specifically what they were. You've got a good feeling on on fixing those deficiencies, maybe don't for the girl breed, but you know, the things that can be worked on in the car. Some of them are in our control some of them on. And we'll we'll do what we can with the tools recall. Okay. One of the things that we wanted to talk about if I could is the fuel job. I mean, it's it's been a long time now in process, and it seems almost redundant to be having it as part of the competition. Do you think at the time is coming where it could go? So we we've actually had that debate. And with a few people in the last week or two because we've introduced this new Lambda value where you can't lean the car out, pasta, Sun Valley point point nine. And yeah, that's still being refined properly. But it's on. It's on foot that rule now with the idea of protecting people's engines and therefore make belong jibbidy on parts. And that's that that price. Thanks in the engines, and the and with the part of the minimum drop rule big part was to try and ensure the people didn't run that. 'cause to me, however. It does actually make the strategy more interesting. So various things going on in that race today which were dictated by the ability to get the fuel into the car that you needed for the one forty field and to onus. Some of the racing is potentially improved by having the funeral. And then something that before we change that if we were to we'd have to have a thorough look at whether it was the right thing to okay now. One of the biggest other big changes. This year was the mechanical change from albums to the extract. And that would very early state seem to be a great success. How many people are talking about it? Exactly. Okay. I there other cost cutting measures being looked at as part of a cost containment program. Containment is one thing that's cutting something else. Okay. Yep. Happy to have both really. But. There's a there are various discussions that team owner level with the senior management of civic 'cause about making changes, but we're not going to change the actual racing of what we do. So there are other things we can do, but we shouldn't screw up on track activities because that's actually DNA. That's what makes us. Good. And yeah, the racing this weekend might not be the best we've ever laid on in Adelaide. And that's probably politics is so stinking if everyone is just in survival mode. No safety 'cause at all and the DS over. Or the main series? So the racing wasn't the best we had here. But the cause still look spectacular. They'd probably look more spectacular with the new spring roll. And they did before to serve at LUSA. That's part of what we do. I don't want to screw up the show what we put on track. So it's very important to remember that as we saw looking at allow looking actively at ways that we can try and contain things I was very glad to hear Sean same. Untold me yesterday that got Tanner is going to be a tribute to him in Perth, which obviously he's an appropriate place for him. He also told me that it'd be looked at for wall Cobb, but because of the development series is no guys available. Will you considering something like that ever forget drive on? You'll cousy. Sean came to us and said could we do it? And and I said, I love to do we just didn't have the resources. You know, we've got we've got a crew that if if they want to. Another program that we can could could have done it. Calendar is the calendar say we be contractual obligation. So we have to fulfill an impact on ending up after the top of both points school this weekend. It's been a good weekend provide let any has been a bad one. But yeah, we the end of the day. We haven't competed for the win. And we've been close in one lap speed. I think Shane's shootout. This morning was exceptional. The the lap. Yeah. It was only Bessette by by Scotty. And by the time Scotty was on track. The track itself was very different Shane was the first runner off touring car masters, and the track is never good when he go out so Matt. So by the time, you get to three 'cause I've written that tracks changed for the better. And so changed your was exceptional this morning in the in the shoe tax to go from having a problem and Calley intense to p-2 doesn't happen that often with the exception of K waters and a foul coast, which obviously the rules and regulations were well to get him fixed. They moved savings over more driver predictions come with air conditioning being considered or something like that in the future. The full air conditioning system in our cause today is an impractical notion is any proposed by people who don't understand the energy that's needed to cooler space that big and the we would need a condenser the sat in front of a engine cooling system engine cooling radiator and therefore took the engine cooling radio temperature up like this. So it's not a practical notion in. 'cause at the moment, you can always refine what we're doing. And there are is an awful lot of research being paid for by particular US government into cooling personnel in hot countries. To be honest over the last twenty five years since the potential warfront moved from northern Europe to the Middle East. They'd been looking at that sort of stuff. So that there are things that can be relevant to us in future. But fully on system in our cause is not a Bracco proposition in the some of the media engine GT cars because of the potential for land and things like, condenser, etc. Then and because they're all engineers, right 'cause with eco systems, then this this far more potential, but some of them work and someone dying. Let me tell you some of them are shocking. I mean, the Ferrari one two years ago when we ran the Ferrario the twelve hours actually once we got it working properly. It was good. We had some knee calamities he'll before you arrived in the country and join the category at this rice, pull radish Joel stay on. While I was here. I remember remember very well. And so, but I honestly think that triple eight we were the first people to develop a cool seat in the way that we have with the dry is total law system. People who using skis with ice in them before we started. And now, of course for some years. Other people have done their own version of what we did and introduced to the category. Six. It's interesting that we have one hot rice when we start talking about cool suit technology, and and a mitigation programs and Bravo was set up in case of a number of drivers leaving to be whisked off into a cool environment for medical treatment. But I think it becomes relevant. If we stop looking or suit because serious about running more and more races in the hotter. Climate of Australia Arriva, the the summer and the fringes which would then bring in a lot more focus. Why would they do that we'll because you'd be running in Hoda climates, but the whole point about going to a summer orientated if you like calendar early in the year is almost certainly to race an evening, but what about all the supports and all the other classes that would then be rising in the hotter climate without the support the taxes. A completely different thing. To be honest doing twenty laps is very different from doing seventy one hundred laps very different proposition. So yeah. People racing and hot weather, plenty of place in the world doing short races. That's not the issue. If you if you comes saying that sort of rice, well, then you probably shouldn't be in the rice, come it's way. You get the longer distance ones and all the heat side can having cetera. That's what that's where it comes into play. And and hopefully. Not any support race is a racing in the in the evening an into into Friday and Saturday night, we saw Tasmania whereas never going to get that whole that whole. We we have seen with Sydney experiences Sydney and even today with this much longer format over the course of the lead rice, would you also like to consider a lockout until a certain time in the morning before you can return or have some sort of curfews, obviously, a repaid car is going to be exempt from a few to try and keep numbers up. So we've been having a scotch, and I've been having the discussion with civic cause for years and they've sought it now, especially with Adrian to pay more attention to it. And we are putting in some some controls just to make sure that is governed by what time we've got activities here. So if we're racing racing later on a Saturday. And then we're. Going to race on Sunday. Friday, such which ever way is then we've got to allow recovery period. The only. It's not only, but it's mainly a street circuit issue because the street circuits are so hard on the cause to even if you I'm gonna damage car. You've still got the running gear takes much more of obesity. So therefore, this more service work, if you want to keep the reliability right that we've that we've got an had many years that Sydney was an ordeal for everyone last year because you finishing at eleven twelve o'clock, even if he didn't have any problem at all and backing up Pacific night in the morning. You mean city? Multiple pause sorry. Yeah. The well. Some really weird one race that weekend. Yeah. If you've got one race is easier. Let me tell you. So we had no practice practice at a at a purpose made circuit we didn't have any complaints about sitting most people park all because it was a it was one it was one rice an even if being to racist on Saturday night, for instance, which have spoken about it. That's that's not the drama the drama is when you have a long race on a one night or late in the day, or whatever. And then you have another the following day. And so that's something you really want them to address. And it sounds like yeah. We've been talking about it. Adrian is the good thing about HP. And is he comes from a team environment? And and hopefully, unlike some of the other people who've come he doesn't forget his roots. I didn't think didn't he will. Well. Thank you. You're telling rolling appreciate it and Likud's catch up on and off to the break through young on the drivers in the walk. Join dirty United teams, and Harry works with h wait joined the inside motorsport team. I look at older news from across the street and around the world here in formula three I think fantastic environment may be doing over from though dynamo career and can tell such fit because most ralliers picking. Try and talk back in I feel like doing inside modus for broadcast community radio and online at sport radio dot com. Are you joining the conversation post your thoughts on our Facebook page and to ask a question? Email insiders at sport radio dot com dot AU. Hi, I'm tiny Dilbert from Shelby racing. Welcome to inside civic is welcome back to inside supercars because Craig Valentine's we're talking to a number of professionals from the health side of the motorcycle business. And of course, the both Maine who are involved in dry the comfort knowing comfort, but Dr a performance of health. First off will be listening hearing from Phil young who's from a company called GP in performance. It Walkin shore Andrey he United driver performance, man. First of all tell us can smoke. Career starting fire. Originally started the spoke career in the in the UK in two thousand where I started as a physio for the Benetton team. So that's where it all started. For me foreman one from two thousand three thousand seven from then moved over to Australia and started working in supercars met up with James Courtney when he was at at DJ all went through championship you with him been with him ever since. So as he said the other day of of being with him almost as long as he's been with his wife. Phil what does your job entail for the drivers first of all when you involve with Formula one? And now the drive is ovens on wheels or supervise here for surely. I mean in Formula one of the biggest the biggest thing for them is the g force like pool. So both laterally acceleration and braking. Jeez. There are no top type of vehicle. So their air conditioning is better than the than as you say are ovens on wheels. So that's the big difference. They they really have a to work hard on their next ranks for the G forces. We have to work on on conditioning. Our guys for the heat. 'cause that's the main thing to will affect their performance in the car. He gives. How you pay your drivers for the new season. And then for the endures. Yes. Of course. And you know, when when we now. We've got longer races coming up. We certainly do this for the stock to season knowing Soysa is too long races on the potential to be as it was last weekend. Very hot. So I'll preseason would would evolve. These stir one training camp woobie, someway, haunting humid and working outside and and trying to condition always to to the sort of conditions that they were going to be feeling I race. Also, you know, pre insurance rounds certainly Ba'athist we would do the same thing again, and we'd be looking again for somewhere in a heated environment environment. But also, you know, working on more on the jury's phases of our physical training having James and Scott cadaver the weekend, they sent me to be victim and healthy only Saturday and Sunday. They they come up the out the weekend. Pretty well considering I mean for me personally, that's the voice I've ever been involved in in twenty years. So I think he's focused two of the drivers for the fitness and dedication with his. But also to the team full, you know, putting in place to to help in in in a small way to were to try and maximize the calling in the car conditioning, something that should be added as a standard into us because. Yeah, it was it was a difficult thing because most engineers will be engineering the car or L performance performance doesn't always equal comfort said in the car. So I think, you know, that's that's always going to be a performance side of things that's going to take take. President I suppose for me personally oversee already on a more revolt with Dr with the joint welfare, and you know, for me looking at it and looking at other categories are are really called to see why they can't be a standard is consistent in all the cost makes it makes it cipher for everybody site for the drivers and everybody has assigned the same setup. So there's no performance upon teach that measuring performance for drivers before the event knowing when they're up to the right level for jurors rices. Yeah. Well, it's one one another thing. You know, when you're looking at performance, you want to the one percenters if you like and one of the things we do, and I'll revolting now is as testing our drivers for this wet concentration. So the actual concentration of sodium within this where. This is really important because it has a major impact on on on health and performance. If your sodium levels become too, low, we could go into many, many hours of talk about that. But that's basically what while the machine is does. So what we can do is analyze their sodium concentration and in from there, we can individually customize their hydration program both pre curing and post race. So it gives us a bit of involuntary really going that they're actually being hydrated to the max rather than having a hydration plan. That's a one-size-fits-all. We we can tie them to each individual driver. We sort of we saw talk about it as or you wouldn't go into shop and buy one size fits all. Shirt eat find eat find a shirt of that fits you. As he's what we doing in in that way. I you involve all year Mottain, getting them ready, obviously Bathurst as a big part of it. Yes. All guys will you're in. Yes. Certainly for hot for us in terms of in heated environments with the drive is probably our next one follow by possibly Townsville, which can be quite warm. But yeah, yeah, you're the main focus off of that within be looking at injuries in a specially breath at it's going to be interesting this year because the brasses is now the first of the jurors so the conditioning we have to do with the drivers is going to be a lot more in have to be a lot more intense because they haven't gotten the luxury of lot almost like all about event as in Sandown. So they have to be on our toes for that one power involving you drive is the co-drivers preparation. I you food center j of course. And I think that that continue continued between the two is is. A great asset when you come to of Z for me to work out what training planes, but also a major part of enduro Zain having a euro partner. If you lie is that they get on. Well, and yeah, that's for us is is a major thing. And you know, they obviously all get on. Really? Well, so that makes a big difference when year year, you're trying to work as a team and the food for birth Jarvis. They sent me all appears seasoned professionals pretty much make suggestions wrong sticks to anything really rigid. Obviously, Jack, for instance, with his own diabetes. Yes. He's able to wear his nutritional eight, and he basically takes care of that. But obviously on there too. I would see if there's any issues with that rest of the guards are pretty good. Anyway, the there will as you say season professionals, and you know, they they probably learned a long way a what to and what not to do in terms of nutrition. But certainly at a racetrack over Rex weekend. I'll have much more Dorothy input into what a what they consume off the break Erebus Penrod team their health professional Rankin from bounce energy health will tell us how he stabbing where he with the team to give drivers a better chance for surviving the age of Adelaide, h wait joined the inside modest four team as I look at all the news from. Leah and around the world. Yeah. I mean, it means a lot in through the years. A lot of reference this race. It's one of our majors six hundred miles around. Here is no easy task dilemma three to four. Dilemma through to voice and may the fallen on star. We around the time that we know. Driveway into the family inside modest four broadcast community radio and online at sport radio dot com. Did I you joining the conversation post your thoughts on radio Facebook page. I am Roy Jones from the cool Dr racing team. And you're listening to incentive costs one hundred ringside supercars Muslims tiny. We're talking. I'm with Phil Rankin from Newcastle. And from a company that's done is balance energy health foods being involved for a short time with Dave Reynolds, nervous, tame and anticipate squarley, and I was asking filter described. I first of all what he does for his young. God is here to help them cope with the heat in the performance union body, right Turney. Thank you. Well, simply way testing urine saliva to see how far away from perfect. They buy chemistries, and that's to do with nutrition hydration many aspects of sugars salts pay high trees, etc. We're getting some real torn testing on the spot, and then guarding them to improve that boy chemistry. So eh focus on the testing focuses to put them in the best place for performance in more importantly in just as important is sports, his recovery. The next hour the next three hours ready for the mixed rice the next day. Important part of that is obviously the analysis of those samples. So how does that go back? We'll look many things it's hard to guy. We're not guessing anymore. We we're getting real time. Data on bitcoin chemistry. We can react immediately. So we've put some numbers into a program software program developed two years ago, and we're tracking Padre Shen health deciding on what to eight Knicks win to eight it and how much, hey, along that energy will lots bicycling. So we we've practiced like they practice in the last in the first two days. With with not drinking water with drinking water based on the numbers and see what the impact it has that. Right. Yes. And the the big drop off in the energy in the chemistry winning trading. Water was phenomenal. So we troll that just in the short. Short Charles now, having just the practice sessions ready for the rice and pretty much on the testing on the scores. And when they. In the in the real rice into AL's? I think we went in at eighty five percent school. And I think we came at at Idei, we were FA didn't touch the ground and all the boys in the room fantastic team at Erebus racing team. All the boys recognized a well. The boys coming out of the car. There hasn't been great recognition of if you want to improve performance is one thing is keep the prime ingredient in that at the peak. When you come from Newcastle. This is really you can't even think you didn't want it to end pick line. Hey united. Kevin Kevin all take some samples now being the most bizarre Jenny in much. Thanks to Lou. Keagan ex we'll number to serve who's been testing pro athletes friend of his as well non bowl when testing elite athletes in the coming up for the Olympics. Or a thoroughly impressed by the testing to give them a real real information at the time they needed not week lighter to lighter. Later. But you know, we we need at the moment in the big underlying gold in looking after these athletes is the recovery reducing possible injuries and recovering ready to go again, the next Skype doing three new Tuesay's. Yes. His marks. A little bit. Yes. And while you would there, you know, that to the incident happened. I was I was live Sherrie. There were few accusations against the team some of some of them quite incorrectly. For instance, elevate, you know, they should've been listening to his voice while I'm sure that Alison MacLean is being with diverse reports on news, and I'm sure he knew judge. What did I would say to him of recently learnt of some things Dave did before the rice last year that jeopardize performance things to do with these dawn that he changed things like that? You obviously have covered. All those sort of grads before this event with David look. Yes. This is a couple of factors to that one is what happened happened. And there's probably a number of reasons for those results in we'll never know. It would be all guessing as far as dawn on a dry shin, nutrition guys. And obviously, it wasn't great. This this team for me in the last five days is exceptionally professional right down to the shifts in the kitchen come Arado be on the team. So I'm sure they would have had his best interest at heart in is not a day out that a team works together wins together. So now, we've got some real data on dive, that's unlikely to happen. Again. He sticks to the program. Okay. Now just looking at this weekend. You've been involved were listener week. So what are the things that you turned your attention to that you could change one of wizards changes that you might to make sure that when he came out of the rights yesterday. He was not would've been expected. Well, it's so funny. The the analogy of us for a number of years now is using the vehicle the Sunday component parts they've got maybe over five hundred points of daughter on the on the vehicle not on not on dive. So preparation is a of success he is gonna build momentum. And over the last four days, he's dry-season every just being improving up to the ideal place, the soap has been reducing east by chemistry. So he's carved salt ratio is down and the overall hill scores gradually, increasing. This is just in four days. So preparation is a cake to build the momentum. Just like that garage in the boys working on all the little things that meta the most. And so Don, obviously, one of the crucial things and hydration DVD put forward ideas on what he should be doing. And is Dave. Yeah. That makes absolutely. Yeah. That was that's the wonderful acceptance here, the very often to adding some components to improve taking some of those components of why that don't support he's wellbeing so daunting hydration. Yes. But building up to this over the next two weeks. Cypher dimple to next two weeks. Millburn will be all about preparation and not coming in with radical changes in numbers, like a smooth landing will be prepared. And I think you'll see what's the spice, you'll see different guard that she is a ten year age span between Anton and David I've never seen either of them Vegas slack with the they both trim young men for both of them of X go-cart Formula Ford chamber. Anton spring time in Europe. I mean, anytime when speaking to him earlier this week, and when he won the Brooklyn would he's world conscious of that. It's not just being skinny and carrying know. So little fat. You've actually going to have some fat on YouTube survivor being pushed to the limit sort of. We can we correct? And we can put those numbers to work for him. If he's in a good place in the in the data coming out of the results is in design that we're requiring he's gonna use those fats now, he's a very interesting point in the world of sports and performance. It's it's it's not always just about fitness. We've got a not we're going to reflect back on the wellness factor. You just because they fit it doesn't mean that. Well, and that's that can mean hydration dot preparation in rest, etc. Have you seen some of the backgrounds of races here sooner finger? You can't you of that in the early days now. There. Compulsory cool suits in those days as the rule is now the teams played follies attention to keeping the interiors 'Schools aided. In fact, it always is amazing to me that the team don't seem to spend as much time keeping the out of the car. I had a couple of teams year survey who would telling me absolutely not pies. Thinking must be stupid to that. How high forties temperature in the car? No. It was sixties. Yeah. Now the body's natural cooling mechanism. However, if it again dogs painting. That's correct. That's. And so look, I think we've the boys are doing this firstly for themselves. And then for the team if they they've got a great energy in them. Nice stepped out of the car. The vibration went round the room come into being might just they felt near that's energies contagious in the the whole chain felt that way in the past. What's happening is with slowing even aging process. In those drives the overall health for wellbeing for a long term. They're not going to come out of this sport. When someone else comes along bit faster feeling worse. These guys again to come out with a great loss style. Good morning from this on nutrition be aware of their own health. Olen good turn tiny. I think their intention is to shed the discoveries. If you like of looking after their on health with the label that love rising and share that with the whole community because men women children, we we need to take responsibility for Ryan health. Now, if now this night guessing all aware of the different metabolic rights that people have in the way, they're recovered these. So David, you know, there is at ten get between midnight. It was much in Naples. So everybody's different inside tastings over the years. There's not one Guinea tests. So therefore, they won't be one authentic program food list of foods or levels of hydration, which will be identifiable. So however, there airports have thing tremendous Jedi. The dedication in these four days to consistently test. Consistently the imports of food nutrition torn for themselves, breathing, etc. Is wonderful. So h of us need that individual focus to look after oneself in and it will be different their age difference. Look, we we we can get the best performance out of that person. No matter the adage you, and I are just a little bit older than them that we can still operate at an optimum, performance, whatever that be Ed some fitness to it as well, some risks and movement, etc. And literally were slowing an aging process. Okay. Now, the best price for people to learn more about this is only a website, which is balance energy, health dot com dot AU. Yes. Thank you. And we will be holding monthly webinars just for people's interest in meant there's a fails in questions from what's already known out there. It's a simply a tool. Yes. Thank you tiny. Bounce energy health dot com. That I we'll have some webinars going on answer a lot of questions with is simply a tool there that that anyone can use families can take it home and use it with the whole family and tests themselves and literally put their health in their own hands to be here today to service and today on you had to have a couple of days prior to sort of learn what the baseline was did. 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I team Pinski enjoyed show. Welcome back to inside Suge Kaz Reagan, Valentine's ritual. I final thoughts. Mine Craig revolves around the dry. The health is moving talking that the great thing that I thought this year was having been this is ninety nine when style headlight. We didn't see any drivers fully out of their cows has happened in years past bull riders search John Lewis, Dave. Oh, and it it it's a five father case. Now, the teams seem too far more keep the driver's performance as something that is important to them. And they making a priority to make sure they drivers I looked after properly and that seemed to be the evidence was air in front of his half. Thrice? Would you agree? Yeah. I do agree with that. It was. Going to be if if ever they was gonna be a rice where you'd have dramas. 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The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by capital. One capital. One is reimagining banking offering account with no fees or minimums that can be opened in only five minutes Capital One. What's in your wallet, Capital One and a? Cried passion, then patterns re of college football leaves here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Best of podcast. Hey, we welcome you to another day. Yes. We'd made it even after yesterday's show. Thanks for being here. It is to see a lot of basketball tonight of SEC season coming down to crunch time. We'll talk about it just a little bit later. Your phone calls. A lot of guests. Let's start with some headlines right now. Remember, Nixon ARCO he was heading toward starting in. Then funny thing happened. He's heading to Arkansas now, though, there will be some competition at Arkansas how about that transfer from SMU stark. Oh from am. Chad Morris might have himself program going there. Jimbo's got one already though. Twenty nine thousand nine hundred a preview could mean one thing it's March licking a year to under Jim boo. So where does JIMBO Rankin Stewart Mandel from the athletics? New top twenty five top coaches that is out today. I know you were waiting. Like, Nick and dab or at the top. Well, Stewart Mandel copping out or refusing upset somebody goes with Sabin one. A and Dabbagh wouldn't be happening. There's a difference. Were they or they both the same. Chris Peterson number three Lincoln Riley number four pride. Kelly number five. It's not April Fools day. Is it? Meanwhile, auburn's football team has delivered supplies for the tornado victims as the. Terrible tragedy right outside of Auburn proper in Bogarde. In other parts of Lee county continue to haunt that community and the nation as we'll talk a little bit more about that later as auburn's basketball team heads to Tuscaloosa, it was in two thousand eleven that Auburn football under Jean. She's got on a bus and went to that part of the state to help victims there today, so many people sending their best wishes and prayers from all over the country and the world, and we'll talk a little bit more about that later on. We have a big show on tap for you eight five five two four to seven to eight five you can do that right now we talked about a minute ago. So let me let me get our correspondent Matt now, what do you think about shark going to Arkansas? Well in the best fall because he could quarterback. Workout for him. There was more events in the world. I know he lost the starting job. And you left happens all the time. And happens all the time means sometimes win to starting to have. Sometimes you win. Sometimes you lose good time. Charlie's got the blues. Remember that one day is roll your way. Yeah. That's correct. Well, all I wanna talk to you Paul about dick his name rowing. Twenty five. What's that? What's that? Madame's? Are what is he ain't and ranked in the top twenty five pre in pole? Is Eddie reinvite number four number five and actually get the chance to read it this week. I don't think the rank that high, but we'll find out. Okay. But I'm only take back. What I said, Paul. I don't think we're going to live in a one this year. I think probably goes. Their number eleven by the way. Well, let me give you some advice. Mount Matt don't make don't make predictions until after spring. Just kind of see what happens take your time. Do that. Don't don't get too hung up on March fifth predictions. Okay. I won't do that. No, more Paul. But I gotta I only two more questions for you. Call okay. What do you think about am in the fact that now charcoal that to them be the backup quarterback for Kelman? Who's gonna win now race? I don't know. Oh, that's why that's why you're the correspondent. Okay. And my last question for you, Paul is at what do you think about they said in? I watched his preseason poll. They think is not gonna be district. Classes helps when jimbo's the next step this year, rain and football. Both either third who current talkies bring in brenham now on tidal. I'm glad to hear the. Hey, thanks. Appreciate the call. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast jimbo's it in seven and a half a year. This is what he returns pretty good team coming back killing Mon. Number three recruiting class in the country. Plays Clemson and Sam con joining us right now. Sam thanks for the time. Let's get right to it expectations pretty high as JIMBO starts here. Number two. What about it? Yeah. I mean, you know, the c the way they finished last season going three and one in over winning the gator bowl in dominating fashion. They did I think that you're jittery of that season and the recruiting success that JIMBO Fisher's have so far on the trail after his first full cycle has really got optimism on this program going forward that said thing next year their schedule is really really tough on that. Clemson they've got Alabama. They've got LSU that got Georgia. That's four the top, you know, seven eight teams in the country. So that that is a tough slate. They got coming back. But certainly people feel good about where JIMBO Fisher in this program is right now. Yeah. I think that's the one thing that fans we just had one calling from San Antonio going eleven and one things like that. Listen, that's great. But. Negotiating the schedule is really his biggest problem. I think and and we may be talking at the end of the year. Well, they were better team. But the record wasn't as good. I don't know if that's the issue right now. What what what what are what is he concerned about as he enters your to? And what what do you sense as well from that program? You know, I think it's just getting better as a program. I think it's getting better in certain areas of the team. You know, what I mean they were good on the offense of line, but not necessarily great. You know, they're going to have to replace them. Really key guys across the roster Trayvon Williams leaving SEC rusher at running back. We're going to have to play sim. They've got some guys on the defense of interior Kingsley. Kiki and Dalen MAC. You'll have to replace tyrod Dodson. Oh, Tara lock had linebacker. Those two guys were veteran presence at a big time position that linebacker. They're gonna have to replace those guys they recruit five linebackers episode. So this just I think there's areas Asia's gotta fill up and continue to build the death on this roster that said he's recruited at a really high level. I think you feel good about where they are from from a talent standpoint from recruiting standpoint, it's just a matter of taking another step. And I think you're right, Paul. I think it's entirely possible that this team is better next year. But doesn't have a better record just because. The way the schedule sets. Yeah. I wanna talk about that schedule again for a second. You can't talk about it too much. When you have the early game at Clemson the late game at Georgia. We're talking probably number one number three teams in the country respectively. For those listening. The schedule is Texas State at Clemson Lamar Auburn Arkansas that's the game in Arlington, Alabama. So I mean, you got a lot of home games during that stretch at ole miss, Mississippi State, UT San Antonio, South Carolina. Ed, Georgia at LSU to me, the season pretty much, no matter where they are at Georgia Adel shoe. That's his brutal a Finnish as you can find. Yeah. No doubt. I mean, you're talking about going into hostile intense SEC environments, and that that's a tough task. No matter who you're asking to do it. So so there's no doubt. It's a challenge for them. But I'll be interested in most insane. How this team progressives this off season, especially for me? I'm really looking at kellyn Mon and seeing how well he progresses. I thought he took a big step forward at quarterback last year that passing game has a real chance to take a huge step forward. They got all their receivers back. They do have to replace the tight end. But I think they've got a real chance to to be better offense just because of all the returning return as they have in the passing game. And particularly monitoring Monde is is a potential star in this league. Just just was impressed by the leaps and bounds. He grew last year, especially in the game against Clemson and the game against shoe. Let me ask you about recruiting number three in the country. You knew that was going to happen. And I think the question, and if the answer is in the affirmative, then this program has often running is it sustainable. Yeah. I think it is. Because I think JIMBO Fisher showed even when he was afforded state his last four full cycles that he signed there were all in the top five nationally. This is what he and his staff. Do I mean, they they were crude at an unbelievable level, and if they can recruit at a top five top six level nationally, then they have a chance to compete for championships in the SEC and national and that that really is ultimately would come out to they have everything else. They have the resources they have the fan support. They have everything they need. They have the location. You know think they're close to the important recruiting areas. Dallas Fort Worth Houston, east, Texas, all those things are there. The only thing that's really left is getting the kind of talent. And that means that you're going to have to fend off some of these SEC powers, Alabama LSU, even some national powers, Ohio State from coming in the state and getting some and you're going to have to be Texas a lot on the trail so far after one full cycle. Jimbo's been pretty good. He's off to a pretty good start. In two thousand twenty classes. Well, let me let me ask you about the dynamic with Texas because that's another program of sending not quite with the buzz as as am. But Georgia win really help Tom Herman after maybe a sluggish start to talk about the dynamics of Texas versus Texas AM. Yeah. No doubt. I mean, you you continue to see a play on on the recruiting trout heart. Tom Herman is a great recruiter in his own, right? His staff has done a phenomenal job there. And they've turned in back to back top ten classes first time they've done that about nine nine years. So it that is the kind of recruiting that you're going to have to see for either those programs if they're going to get to the championship level, they wanna reach. I think that the Sugar Bowl win for Herman that staff were was huge. They're going to go into this off season with a ton of momentum. And I think there's a lot of positive feelings in Austin. Because of the way they finished that season, you know, beating the team white Georgia. I think you're going to see them seen preseason rankings already. You know, some of the way too early rankings in the top ten in. You've seen them around there on the top ten as well. I think it's going to be really interesting to see how it plays out on this next year because the results on the field. I think you're going to have an impact on the recruiting trip for both of those programs in terms of record. We talked about the schedule the expectations. Where we are the fans right now. I mean, I know they're they're always expecting everything. But realistically what what's what's a number that fans can live with? I think if they can match last year win total which they went nine and four I think if they can match that I think you feel really good again. I don't think because of the schedule. I don't think fans are going to be up in arms, if they don't, you know, compete for an SEC championship this year. But I think when you look at the town they have the way the Rush's constructed how many guys they potentially have returning to twenty twenty. I think a lot of people are looking at that season. When the schedule's not as brutal for the potential chance for take a real big leap start talking about continue chamber chips. And when you talk about going into twenty twenty you're also talking about another recruiting class signing. So you're getting more and more depth and more and more high-calibre players into the program. So I overall the positive feeling around that program is pretty persistent mainly because of the way they finished the season. A lot of people are still very happy with what JIMBO Fisher shown, you know, the way he replaced a couple of vacancies on his staff this off season. So overall, I would say the buzz is still pretty good. I think the expectations are. Just continue to get better ca cheetahs show it on the field. And then, you know, see what happens the in twenty twenty Sam congenial. Joining us from out in. Texas area of the world. Thanks so much Sam talks. Problem. Thank you. You're listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. The editor in chief of the athlete Stewart man del joins us in Stu always great to have you on. So you've done yet another list first of all hell long. Have you done this list? And how do you do it as we say Hello to you? Well, thanks, Paul lift of the top twenty five coaches and controve. I think I've been doing it for about four years in terms of full top twenty five it's tough because you're trying to compare coaches like, Nick, saving Lincoln, Riley, curry smart, and the coaching at places that have all the resources to win at the highest level versus say daily cutlass. And what he's doing it do right? The expectations are completely different. So I tend to go for two guys who I would consider to be overachievers. But that's a good relative to the history that program. That's a pretty good sign that they're doing a good job coaching. And and we've already had some conversations about this just in in the pray lewd to this this interview, I know that there's more to this. And just what I team or or coach did last year. How how do you how do you project use data from the past present as well as look ahead? Or do you? Well, why don't look ahead, and I say that it's not a career achievement award fairly. I've put a lot more weight on recent performance. But I wouldn't say that there. There's a certain timeframe three years four years. You know, I just I just put more weight on. What's happened recently than say would happen what they were doing in two thousand ten something like that? So starting at the top saving one a one Dabbagh one be. I mean, what are you are you are you saying what are you saying here? Yeah. Well, obviously they've been been winning national championships for longer and he's got more of them. So the on top. But right now as of this moment, you know, I I don't see how you could say they're not equal. They've they've past four years split number national championship split head to head meetings. They actually have the exact same wrestlers over the last four years. So I wanted to pay dabble a little bit of respect and give them that one the Knicks saving twenty eight. So I never want to put words in another riders mouth. But are you saying they are equal? They are you know, that was the big takeaway to meet coming off the national championship game. That's just that that quantum clobbered Alabama. But there's you know, there's nothing that Vic saving is doing right now the devas when he can't do too. You know, they're they're winning at exactly the same level. So obviously savings on it for much longer. If you're talking about Brees coaches of all time, saving is the greatest coach of all time, in my opinion, dabble with not even in that conversation. You haven't been doing it long enough? They're talking about who's best coach in college football today. Come either exactly equal. Okay. So let's let's get beyond that. And you know, right now, there's there's so much object tippety here. Let's go through your list. And you know, we don't to spend all day on it. But I'm really interested in just a, you know, you know, the west Peterson mart rally. Kelly smart, Fisher Leach Patterson Shaw, why Peterson at number three. Well, the interesting thing Paul is with urban Meyer, retiring, there's a little bit of voice there. You know, I think saving and Daboh or own level. And then there's the drop off. But what Christie or did, obviously with the state was remarkable. Because so Washington program that hasn't been particularly relevant in about two decades. And over the last three years they onto a playoff onto the ball onto a Rose Bowl. So, you know, given relative to the field the fact that he's done at two different stops. Now, the fact that he's elevated walking into a place with that hasn't been probably the early nineties, and they haven't taken that next step having won a national championship. They haven't they didn't win the rose gunfire state last year, they not right on the door. So I think relative to the rest of the field that flight he came to three and beyond that, I mean, Lincoln Riley. I think pretty well speaks for for itself. But I in your in your list. I mean, they're they're a few that would get some attention. Especially Mike Leach. I thought footer that you're not a fan of the Mike Leach at number eight. No, I'm gonna ram really not. I just think he's a very good coach. I just don't think he's the number eight coach in the country. He's a weird guy. I think we can all agree on that. But now to to Flint school, you know, he he led techy tech to eleven win season that doesn't happen. Very often. They're obviously went to a bowl game every year there. Washington state with completely down on when he got there. They'd won nine games. Some previous four years. Now, they're consistent nine ten last year for the first time in school history. Eleven winter. So say what you want about him the first -ality. He's controversial. He's polarizing in terms of winning football games kind of revolt schools. I think he does pretty good. So let's talk about some people. Let me let's let me see if I can go through the list again, I realized we have a new audience so gone through the top tends to and after that, you know, I mentioned David Shaw at number ten we'll we'll turn the page here a little bit. And I'll go Jeff Mahnken name the surprise with a few people. Maybe Bill Clark. Dan Mullen, dantonio free. Franklin Herman FitzGerald, Mike Gundy at eighteen Baber 's David cut cliff at number twenty and. You know, there's some interesting names there for sure of Bill Clark. Listen, I I wouldn't argue that. But that's an interesting choice at number twelve. Belgian did his dip well on the play. He didn't have at that. It's hard again. Like now, you're talking about conference USA school. How do you rank with somebody thumb at a conflict you have faith school relatives here? The FCC in the big ten but the program of literally shut down for two years. They come back, and you have to recruit the roster players the president back on scratch, if you had told me two years ago that you would have gone three nine the factory years. I would have believed you instead last year eleven wins conference championship national coach of the year. So it's a remarkable job. And I thought he deserve wrecking different. Let's talk a little bit about some names who are not on this list. So let me throw one who I think in the past has been ranked very high. I didn't see him on the list Gus malzahn of Auburn. Yeah. Phil definitely I did have an in the I don't remember how I have different on the list. But you know, we're going to talk about a track record of six seasons at Auburn two very special FCC championships during the national ed- FCC chairman of the national championship and playing a game. You'll get four had not. So I think if you're looking at the larger picture in in things, you know, should be considered considering the twenty five in the country right now, I have to see a little bit more after them get back to having a kind of feeling that they had in twenty thirteen hundred twenty seventeen Mark stoops made it which may surprise some people, but not if you were paying close attention to Kentucky last year, but Jim Harbaugh who I'm willing to bet has ranked very high on your list in the past nowhere to be found. Yeah. I certainly intended to have them in there. And you're right. I think but I did that I started mission using my top five because what he did it Stanford. Would still stand with one of the marketable turnarounds in recent college football history. Now, we have four years of enough in Michigan. And in the in the way, I put it follow is. He's basically just held serve. He's you know, it's Michigan. Not a if not Vanda though, you know from the school where it's hard to win. You can win big big Michigan. And and free is nice on the surface. I think you'd have three last four years, but you basically don't have like meaning that teams Michigan should be. And then losing to Ohio State losing to Florida. The ballgame stature losing one eight against Tintin. So I I thought for sure I haven't been there that there's a lot of guys I thought was more deserving. I'd like to see him win a big ten championship beat Ohio State. Do the things that make you remembered as a great coach Michigan? Didn't see Ryan day, which I can understand that. But man outside of the interim year with Luke fickle. I bet it's been awhile since Ohio State didn't have one of the top coaches in the country all well from Ohio State fans, but I don't think many pointed out he is undefeated head coach right now. But you know, he's studying crack, and I'm very curious if he how he does the interesting thing and could be pointed out to I didn't even notice this. But because there's no Miren Ohio State coach the highest they can coaching here. Fourteen Mark dantonio Franklin's right behind him and after five because I can say they can have very strong roster coaching. But there's not that obvious heavyweight right now like urban Meyer clearly was during his six year run their state store before you go nowhere. No group has done a better a better job of covering the expansion of or the pers- possible expansion of the college football playoff, and then your publication, especially Nicole Arabic. So I say all this. As a preamble to what happened yesterday the announcement that Jim Delany easily the most influential person in in intercollegiate athletics, stepping down a year, and and four months from now many have speculated that could maybe not but could open the door or make it easier for expansion. What is your view? I was a little surprised, but that take frankly because in this most recent wave in the quarterback story, you mentioned Delaney's right at the front of the pack. You know, it's a complete one eighty for. Hey that is just going to fourteen he was always the laughing with that the right now, I think he sees that the college football playoff has become had the domain of Alabama. And Clemson maybe a couple of other programs, the big ten dukes getting left out. So he's out there advocating eighteen now between now and when he retires. It's a daily to it. I mean that could feed him saying, well, I'm not going to be cheer much longer. So I'll just kind of leave myself out of that. And let somebody else figure it out. But I also see in. He's the guy who is thinking about his legacy. And what's one more big thing? I could do to impact the splits. I could see him going all out. Well, I'm not going to be too much longer. So why not you know, kind of make an all out push for this. I think we'll find out more this spring. When all the conferences, you know FCC need. See needs indefinitely. What competencies heavy leading cenex. Now. Do the first time I've really all together with national chat fifteen and I'll be very curious to see whether he's going to be continued to be outspoken a dollar or take a step back now that he's decided to retire Stewart Mandel editor in chief of the F, let his view on the playoff. And of course, his top twenty five coaches Stewart, come back soon. And thank you, very very much. Thanks for listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. LS is up next in Alabama LS. Thank you for the phone call and then good afternoon to you. I we are. Well, I'm glad to hear from you. But I just wanted to talk to you a little bit. I worked at try to talk to you, please hours wildfire poverty here Lee. Yes, sir. Of. I work at one. Tornado hit. Oh, my I never never in my life have. Heard so much radio traffic on merge, sue radio. In my life. I can imagine it now one one when the towers. There was so much traffic going. Oh, I had a young kid driving a fire truck. I had tell her twice a slowdown. We got there. It was like. Did what to do? Trying to all the last twenty something years at five twelve hundred guys looking to me want to know what to do. She had streaming prayer screaming for children. The people covered up her. Up in pick up with just kids in the back. Broke Bose do you recognize some of the dead bodies? Most of them were not in the houses. They were. How that feels? Theresa. We're up in trees everywhere. It a. We got. Home that night back to the fire stations. I've never seen. Girl. Mitch sit down and pray. It was can still is. Have never been in a war. But that's what it's gotta be like, and it is these people need help it was if you've ever been to bowl guard as this a rural areas beautiful farms. A lot of manufacturer housing. And it hit right in the middle of what most of the manufactured housing and all that. The biggest majority there several. I guess you'd call them. Try the parks or housing subdivision to. But if you, you know, people, you know, there's all kinds of things all that. These people have nothing there in motels. They will they're not even allowed some of you can't get down there. And I just won't people to, you know, one family law seven of the fabrics. Oh my goodness. And. You know, the grandmother. Would fair up on that stuff. And they got her out. She's to you all that. You know, this once you families rolling up to each other. You know, tell each other they okay and everybody knows everybody. In. Yeah. I don't know. How to you know, it's just. I just started needing to the dating. I I've sat down since it happened. L? Let me let me say this first of all thank you very much for sharing that. And I it takes a lot of. Courage to to do what you've done. But I know that's what you do. And and I hope you'll stay in touch with us, and let us know because we certainly reach a lot of people. And I think everyone here and everyone watching and listening. Wants to do whatever we can to help out. Which is still be alone works covering, you know, already university is, you know, it's just fifteen miles away pro flies from Auburn university. In the university is help this. I can't say enough about Alabama Power. You know, just watching hundreds of our battle power troth role in and it's just but there's still. I know just in east Alibaba about this. You know, there was sixty seven minutes of the March room net night, forty something. Yes. Thank you. So very much for for sharing that what an incredible story. Thank you. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. It wasn't that long ago in the studio we had young golfer on that not many people had heard of. But today much has changed. Let me say Hello to Keith Mitchell who won at the Honda over the weekend against a pretty tremendous field. And so much has happened since then so much has happened to his career draining a long birdie putt on the final ho hokey first of all before we get to all the things that have happened in Saint, congratulations. I can only imagine what it's like to win on the tour and have so many so many doors open as a result. It's incredible. We've come a long way since last last time. I'll sit your studio. Win that not much going on if I love special golf career, but I'm thankful to be back on your show with with that trophy. And my case. Well that day I mean, you were you certainly had had some moments. It was during the quail hollow tournaments. We spent a lot of time talking about Kirby smart and the dog since you're Georgia guy. But not today. We'll we'll say that for your next rip through town. But but I do want to go back to the weekend. And certainly. You were up against some some of the greatest. Golfers of today, especially kept gotta and Rickie Fowler VJ Singh. Was breathing down your neck about to make history. Take us through the last couple of holes. And and how did you hold it together? Well, first and foremost, I'm always down to talk about. But I I will say I probably wasn't thinking about that much. Come down the stretch. I was I was really I was really focused on what I was doing because I've been close before. But I'd never come through. And it's so hard to come through on PGA tour because you got to block out all all the stuff going on around you. And I mean birding for the last seven holes with somebody told me that twelve t- that I had to go for under two last seven holes to win a tournament. I think I think my mindset would have changed been a lot more difficult. But fortunately, I stuck with this trying to hit the best shots. I could every time and every once in a while I had some emotion creep in some thoughts creep in that. I just tried to block out the way I blocked it out was just trying to stick to what what I was trying to do just like in any other sport. If you let what's going on around you sect what you're doing any arena. Then it's gonna. A lot tougher knows. I I mean, you're a professional golfer. I don't I don't wanna make make anyone think that happy Gilmore suddenly showed up at eighteen and was in your body. But it's still difficult when you haven't done it. So you're you're standing over that putt. The crowd is anticipating a playoff, obviously, the people watching at home or anticipating a playoff. What happened? Well, I didn't want to go and have playoff the there's two of the best players in the world. And they have proven that they won on the biggest stages multiple times. And if day come into the playoff with momentum with Brooks partying eighteen Ricky me standing on the t box from seventeen watching Ricky birdie and then standing in the fairway on eighteen in watching birdie. They're going to have all been some because if I go with the playoff after missing that putt, I'm down and those guys are up and they're the best players in the world. They've already one that changes everything. So we make it that pot was was truly incredible. Because I mean, I would have I was already under dogs. But if I go with that playoff. I I mean, I don't know if I'll be able to pull that out. I mean, obviously yet, you you had to have you had to have competence to make it, and, you know, sometimes people were thinking, okay, I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that. I'm going to make sure I'm in the playoff. Clearly you were thinking about winning the tournament. I was and I did two things in order to do that come down the stretch one actually club down on my second shot. I mean, she's gonna third shot into the green. Because I knew if I hit it over the green that the up and down from over the green is almost impossible, which would mean, I would miss the playoff in in the whole naive. Never tense. Really? So I took one less club. And I knew if I hit it great in Mike and flag, and if dot L would have a putt to win. And so I did my job from the fairway trying to make sure that I'll just on a chance, and then and if I didn't make it at least being a playoff. So that's probably why the ball came up a little bit short of the whole. But I was okay with it. Because I knew I had a chance to win. And I remember standing on the green thinking man, this is at putt that you've always dreamed about in. I had to kind of try to block that out and start in think about the actual putt itself thing about what the break was doing what the line was doing speed. And that way, I was able to better. But. Yeah. You always hear so many people say the second. I hid news going in. Did you? I knew I hit it solid. And that was all I could do. I mean, I had to judge like I said that the break the grain was where the grass is growing and uphill downhill, and then hopefully didn't hit anything twain when I hit it and it got to the whole. So once I hit it solid. I do I did all I could do to make it go in a new that I hit the putt. I wanted to hit to win a golf tournament. And then thankfully, everything else all line for to the whole Shuki. Here's the point when this should be the greatest moment of your life. And I know it was but there are a couple of things that happen. The people are still talking about first of all on Saturday. I believe the announcer on NBC called you was a Kevin Mitchell instead of Keith Mitchell, which is okay. If these these kind of things happen, but the biggest indignity occurred the next morning in the local paper. Yes papers are still alive and well apparently in Palm Beach when they had head you pictured with a trophy under the black heading into the world heading no-name champion. I don't know where you were Monday morning. But how did you hear about that? And and what was your reaction? Well, I've only been on tour for a year. And I haven't had as much exposure, obviously, as to the world's greatest players Brooks, Gaskin Rickie Fowler. So in terms of those two guys, I absolutely wasn't donate. And this still am compared to within the communist. So I I mean, it safe to say that that that was it's it's not untrue to say the least and at the same time. I kinda used it earlier in the week as motivation, as you know, I'm not established enough to be a household name. And I would kinda use that as a little bit of motivation to prove to myself that I was not necessarily the anybody wrong or anything like that. It was just I wanted to prove myself that I could perform and without puddle eighteen I think I did and just does emotions after it make you wanna win so many more times. So I mean, some people might ignore it. People might get mad. You've had fun with the tow. Even with the NBC situation. You tweeted that out everyone has come to your defense. And instead of being a no name. I I mean, even winning tournament project shoe gives you an opportunity to do so many things, but people are still talking about that. I mean, are you getting kick out of that? Or are you just two two ready getting ready for the next turnament? Well, the Kevin things been going on for a while. I mean, the I loved that hick season credible. Even a great outs. Reset so many great things about me. And even when he was calling me Kevin he was saying great things about. So let's let's not get it out of context. And it's been happening for since. I I really was on TV last year in the Dominican Republic in Houston, Texas. So I mean, it's it's been an ongoing joke with a lot of my close friends that they call Kevin on the PGA tour for at least a year now. So that would be kind of icing on the cake was when I was on the last hole on Saturday would Dan did it again, and I had to give a little job. I mean, it was it was obviously playful so it's the Kevin things going around for a while. And and you know, I I hope I can always find the little little bits of motivation to keep me going like that. So now that you've won pretty life changing things have occurred. I mean, you're you're you're in the masters. You're you're pretty much everything that matters for from here on. What's it been like since Sunday night in Palm Beach gardens? I it. It's been a while. Because it's it's kinda great like all the relationships. You've built off the golf course for the last however, many years since I guess cell phones were around have have really really came to light that night. I got so many great videos that people jump up and down when I made the putt somebody Kurds text messages emails and just this morning. I was able to respond to all of them. And I mean, it took me two days. And that is that is it was so cool that took me that long because I got to interact with Sunday people that I haven't seen in a while that are going to see the day before etc. And so those is really cool to have all that support. I haven't even gotten to emails yet, and I've been swamped so it's taken a while. But it's it's fun. It's it's I love doing it and people like, oh, you don't have to respond. You know, just want to say grads school. Yes. I do you spent the time texts graduations. I'll take the time. It takes you back. Now, you're playing this week is in Orlando. Yes, I'm here right now, actually, it is the weather's freezing compared to Palm Beach. It's been cold a lot of places. I mean, listen. You want to compete and you want to do. Well. But I would imagine that there's going to be quite a bit of demands on your time such as this conversation in many more. Are you concerned you just gonna roll with the punches and have fun? I mean, I'm not concerned at all. I'm concerned about my focus between number one number eighteen this week, which is going to be definitely hard. Because of course, I'm thinking about last week. And then if I make a bogey I'm gonna be mad, and that's going to be tough. I mean, all the media allegations are fun. It's fun to it's fun to celebrate your word with with everyone. And I love doing it. But I'm not going to be excited. If I don't play great. So I wanna have to try my hardest refocus on my performance. Because again, you know, somebody wins this week at the whole media wave shifts to them next week and then the next week, and it is an ongoing cycle. So I I don't want to get caught up in this one week greatest moment. And then all of a sudden it just evaporated like I wanna keep I wanna keep practicing preparing. And hopefully, do it again one hundred times keys, clearly, your your schedule will change you've got quite a few dates that are now automatic. So how do you man? From here on other than playing in some of the biggest tournaments in the world. It's difficult in for all good reasons. I mean, I'm can't wait for the players two weeks in Jacksonville. I can't wait for Gusta. I can't wait for the PJ championship. And then having a better opportunity to go really long way the playoffs updated year, which is our Super Bowl. So it's it's really. I don't wanna say I'm gonna play less because if you're playing good you wanna play as much as you can. And so that's where I'm kind of at this at this lied where I'm playing really good right now. So we'll play as much as I can't. But I don't wanna make myself tired physically mentally because then you won't play. Well, so I'm trying to find a balance right now of kind of just a little bit. But really not that much Safar. And before you go there. There's still time to be a Georgia BULLDOGS fan, isn't there? Oh, yeah. Tons. I love. Well, they had a pretty good year last year. And I'm sure you will be right there. Pulling for them. Listen, we're proud to know you. It was exciting for everyone who who pulls for the dogs, and who has been pulling for you. Congratulations again, Keith. And I I know this is going to be an incredible experience the rest of the way hope you come back soon. Paul. Thanks. I love to talk football. Because I think I picked LSU I think we're going to beat everybody. But might lose the LSU and Alabama zone bites. We'll writing. What we would we? We'll have you back you. I'm sure sure by then you have one couple majors, and you can you can you can be a college football prognosticator. But for now, congratulations. Keith right to have you on. Thank you listening to my Paul finebaum show podcast. Okay. Let's let's get the man up here my Griffith, Mike. Thanks for the time rate to have you on. We were chatting about this subject, which we really don't know anything about. So that's why we want to hear you you're so what's going on. Don't tell me the games leaving Jacksonville. Well, that's that's far from the tree that hasn't happened yet. I mean, it's contract goes through twenty twenty one. So, you know, the game's going to be in Jacksonville for at least the next few years. But it's something that Georgia and Florida are looking at, you know, Scott Strickland did a interview with Pat Dooley after the season and kind of said never say never, you know, Kirby smarts, brought up the disadvantages that it puts Georgia and Florida or especially when we talk about recruiting let's face it recruiting is the lifeblood for every program, and if I were to say to Georgia fan, you know, what you're going to have one less official. Visit weakened than Alabama Auburn in Tennessee every two years. They would say what did we do wrong? That's not fair. But that's what happened. When you play at a neutral site like Jacksonville, you can't bring recruits in on official visits. They can't visit your campus. You can't spend time with them. You can't pay to fly them in. They can sit there. But it's not like the team and the players have a lot an opportunity to visit with these recruits. So as Kirby smart said at the end of last year, you've got away the value of the the the beauty of the setting of Jacksonville in that stadium versus the value of what would be a huge official visit weekend for both Georgia when it's an Athens and Florida when it's in Gainesville. So a no he said, which Gotcha. What about the what about to Georgia shot know, they're they're still digesting the Auburn Georgia game. But what's the word in that building? Well, I think Greg mcgarity likes it. I, you know, Greg like, you know, I think he's a proponent for the fans and a lot of fans that go to that event. They really love that event they love Jacksonville. And of course, you know, last year was the first time, I covered that ROY. Avary down there. And it was nice. But it to me doesn't have the game day environment of Athens or Gainesville. I liked the events on the campus. And you know, I don't know how many people watching you been to downtown Athens. But I think you'd be hard pressed to find another college environment and college town that has as much to offer as Athens in terms of the the restaurants and the pubs in the energy, you know, the safety of it. I mean my goodness last year in Jacksonville. There was a shooting the week before within a couple of blocks and shooting in a parking lot after the game. I mean, you know, there's other things here other than money and Jacksonville pays well now. Jacksonville pays Florida and Georgia those schools make an extra three million dollars every two years to have the game down there Jacksonville. So they make a little extra money, but they also take a little bit of money out of their local economy. I can guarantee the the city of Athens would like to have another home game every two years, and so it gains those they try and stay in business and and have taxes for their infrastructure. And their school system. What what what's the realistic possibility of this thing happening to on? I you know, what I think it's up. I think Kirby smart has a lot of say in this. And and if anybody understands the tradition to this game, it's Kirby smart and Kirby has spoken out about the pageantry of about just how cool it is. How unique it is to have the fans split down the middle and to play at that, quote unquote neutral site ninety miles from from Gainesville and what four and a half or five hours from Georgia. I guess the argument is you can get on an airplane and fly there's quickly from Athens as you can take a bus from Gainesville. But here, nor there, I think Kirby smart is the guy who's going to make this decision on Georgia's side. Listen, they trust in Kirby Kirby's done a great job with this program in three years. He understands what's at stake. And whether it's worth the trade off. And I do think there's something to be gained. Again. I would challenge anybody if you haven't been to downtown Athens. I've. Never been to a better college town, frankly, Paul, well, listen, I can argue with that it's a cool place. And I think it speaks for itself. Let me let me clean up on the Auburn, Georgia situation. Where are we there? And when do we expect something official yet? Let's call it the Tennessee Georgia because that's really what we're talking about here. Now, again, we're talk we're messing with tradition, and there's a lot of Georgia fans that like to shoot the messenger. So I want to be clear. This isn't my decision here, folks. Okay. This is what the SEC in Georgia and Auburn and Tennessee of worked out as far as that game. People got used to the Auburn game being in November. And really what Georgia fans wanted was. They wanted that payback Pau. I don't know if you remember when misery and Texas ain't joined the league, but George had to play two years in a row at Auburn. And in in Georgia's been waiting for that payback will they didn't get it. Instead, they got the game moved up to October and the Tennessee game moved back from October to November and messed with a little more. Tradition. Here's why it makes sense. And here's why Kirby smarts. All right with it. In your interview with him set, it all he said on your program on national signing day about how the Georgia program and other elite programs would be getting younger as time moves on now with these kids enrolling early in school and going pro early the elite programs will get younger and younger. And if you apply that logic to a regular season younger teams are going to round into form better in November a team that recruits better like Georgia. They're going to be deeper. It's going to be advantage Georgia in November. Now, some people will say, well, why would you wanna play Auburn before Tennessee? And this starts in twenty twenty by the way, the answer is because those programs are trending in different directions. If you didn't notice Tennessee beat Auburn last year at Auburn. Yes. I know Tennessee had some ugly losses. But if you take a look at what Phillip Fulmer, Jeremy Pruitt or doing there, and I would say how that program looks moving forward compared. The Gus malzahn. I don't know is he has he renegotiated his contract in the last ten minutes. I mean, the guy looks like he's hanging on for dear life programs trending in different directions. Tennessee, I believe will be the better program in twenty twenty. It will serve Georgia well to play Tennessee in November instead of October when they're younger players are older. And also Paul you avoid the possibility of rematch. Ing Auburn in the SEC championship game happened a couple years ago where they had to play Georgia Tech and Auburn back to back weeks Kirby said it SEC spring meetings. He didn't want that situation. Again, how much of this really has to do with Kirby smart obsession with beating Nick Sabin. I think it's all about Kirby smart wanting to win a national championship. You gotta be Nick Sabin to do that. We got to beat Nick Sabin to do that. And whatever, you know, eleven dwarves he's got lined up as coaching. So I don't even I can't keep up with who. It doesn't seem to matter who the assistant coaches are at Alabama. But you're right. They've got to beat Nick Sabin. They've got to beat Alabama. I think they've got to get again. Twenty twenty a lot of things will change. I mean this next season for Georgia. I believe is the end of an early window when I took a look at how many juniors could go pro and redshirt sophomores. It's possible George could lose four out of five starting offense of lineman as well as Jake from their quarterback, a junior now Georgia fans don't wanna hear it. But the reality of it is there's a lot of talent coming up for Georgia more talent in this next draft class than what we saw this year at the combine I would say, so what are you saying? Are you saying are you saying Georgian pass to beat Alabama this year? I'm saying they their best odds to beat Alabama are probably this year from what we've seen the last two years. I mean, I'm never going to say that Alabama's down because I haven't seen it and everytime. I think that Nick Sabin can't possibly pull it off again with with a redo or a made over staff. He proceeds to do it last year with the best regular season in SEC history. You know, the Clemson game aside and. And what happened there with two is injury. But still I'm not going to count Alabama out. But as I said on this program the last time, I appeared I think this is the year Georgia beats Alabama. This is the year Georgia beats Alabama. And and for what reason because of the death that I talked about because of all the returning players because Georgia has the best offensive line. In college football. I'm gonna soom, and I got to be careful because the last time I made a prediction, I assumed that a team would be healthy. And that team started five, and oh, and then they proceeded to leave lead the nation and injuries and the head coach got fired a year and a half later that was the Tennessee volunteers in what twenty sixteen started five and and had visions of an SEC title injuries can happen. But let's just say they don't Georgia. Let's say that the Andrea swift and Jake from state healthy, and that they don't lose to their best defensive players like Tennessee did a couple years ago all things being equal. The Andrea swift is a top five finalists for the Heisman Trophy next year. When he's healthy. He's hell on wheels. All you gotta do is. Look what happened in November. When swift was finally, healthy, look. Jake from third year started coming back. This offensive line is the best offensive line. In college football, the front seven will be much improved. And they've got a pair of safety that I think are on par with any in the country. This team's loaded Paul. Okay. Well, listen one thing we we like about you, Mike, you don't you don't sugar coat, it, you you, speak your mind, and we will digest what you had to say. And I'm sure you will thanks for coming on, Azure. Always great tangible my Griffith saying it very clearly into singly at this year. Georgia will beat Alabama. I think I heard him loud and clear. Thank you. For listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. The Paul finebaum show airs weekdays on the SEC network beginning at three eastern.
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Today, we ask how I know deal. Brexit will impact the rest of the year and the guardians Amelia gentlemen on why win rush deportation flights have resumed. Jennifer's anyone stockpiling in preparation? No. I haven't I haven't come across anyone took piling because I it's not an issue on on the side of the channel goes nothing that Britain cells to the European Union that worried about maybe there are few people stockpiling Melton Mowbray, pork pies or to create or. Yeah. Clotted cream or Arbor smokey's or something like that? But I haven't met them if they're out there. They're keeping quiet. There's no negotiation between the EU and the UK that negotiation is finished. There will be not definite after hitting a wall of resistance. Theresa May headed to Brussels yesterday to urge European counterparts to reopen negotiations. This is look the game with fifty days to go. The mood has darkened. I've been wondering what the special place in the whole looks like for those who promoted Brexit without even a sketch of plan how to carry. After discussions, the president of the European parliament warned that we are now weeks away from an economic and human catastrophe. This is the reality of nor the but. From the guardian. I'm initially Astana today. Infocus how far will Brussels go to prevent a no Brexit. The European Commission. In Brussels has drawn up eighty eight different notices to send to different sectors of the economy covering all sorts of plans that the people should be making. So this is really coming from the said, this is from automative emissions to zoo techniques, which is open new word for me, which party is about animal. Breeding. Jennifer Rankin is the guardians Brussels. Correspondent and has been following the EU preparations for Brexit over the past two years their issues about customs issues about VAT. And then there are some some less obvious ones one that caught my was on mineral water, for example, Philo we're all talking about an ideal Brexit, and there's a lot of focus on the withdrawal agreement, and there's also a lot of focus on the future. Trading arrangement. Can you explain what no deal means? I know deal breaks. It means they will be no deal that that means there will be no side deals that will be no managed agreement. It means that if the UK doesn't sign the withdrawal agreements doesn't ratify that withdrawal agreement then everything falls away on the forty for March two thousand nineteen. So suddenly, the UK will find that the host system the underpins two thirds of its trade. No longer exists that scores of laws covering criminal Justice covering foreign policy covering data protection. All these things have suddenly vanished. And it will be scrambling to come up with attorney tiv- arrangements. And it's going to feel that I when it comes to the issue of trade. I remember speaking today Davis when he was Brexit secretary. And he felt that some countries like island Belgium, and the Netherlands that would be particularly hard hit by a no deal scenario would start piling pressure on the commission to avoid a cliff edge. Holland Belgium, France, I've mentioned Denmark, all of them know, the impact of their economy of no deal would be quite Matic more dramatically for us. Jennifer, let's start with the Netherlands because I know you went to Rotterdam how badly affected would it's a Konami bay. I think the the port is is certainly very worried about no deal. And the port is is like a city in itself gets Europe's biggest port and every every year, you have more than ten thousand boats coming from the UK, the traffic backwards and forwards is vast and people there were were really concerned about Brexit. Not just a no deal Brexit, but any any form of Brexit? So I went to visit them last autumn, and they were taking their no deal. Preparations very seriously. So ready at that time they'd hired more than nine hundred new customs offices. They were in the process of hiring more than one hundred new vets in the ports. We are. Well ahead to get rations also companies and also road transport in place said they wanted to be absolutely ready on the thirtieth of March to do any ex- all the extra checks that will be needed. Belgium's one of the countries we're talking about you'll rim, Brussels. What are people saying their Brexit is is a big issue for Belgium? Of course, it's a has open automates, and it's very close to the the UK. And again, it's a it's an economy with with two big ports. Brugere an Antwerp. We have a day four thousand trucks day going to the UK. So if they are even blocked for few hours, then you have a sixty plumage of of Brooklyn. So we do not want that nobody wants that. So we we hope that's what about island. If you look at Orland the government's own statistics show that an WTO Thames. Brexit would be it would be hugely damaging the economy would be seven percent smaller by twenty thirty than it is today with farmers and the the food sector, especially hard hit because a big proportion about forty percent of their exports going to the UK. So it's it's a really serious economic worry for Ireland is sixty four Cartland Ted over fifty them will end open, the UK market shaver for so for an initial period from brags that, you know, if those just stuff that in the tracks, where will they go, you know, we just won't be able to have these countries demanded more of a guarantee that that won't be a no deal. And if so do they have any sway Overby kind of overly you council? The commission. The countries that you mention the Netherlands Belgium and Ireland that clearly on the frontline of of Brexit, even a Brexit with an agreement. We've some kind of free trade deal that's still going to reduce the trade eighty with the UK, and that's going to have an impact negative one on their economies and no deal. Brexit is even worse for all of these countries Ireland, especially but despite that the EU line has really been very consistent on this. And you you haven't seen really countries pressuring the the commission or pressuring Michelle bonday to try and take a different line because of the fret of annot deal Brexit, I think they they see the fortunes tied together, and they really want to try and protect the EU markets. So I think the point that David Davis making was when he mentioned those academies is is certainly correct. But I think where he is wrong is the the suggestion that these countries going to be worse off than than the UK. And I think every every credible economic. Study out there showing that the UK is going to be harder hit by a no deal. Brexit. It's interesting that you say that they haven't put more pressure on the commission because there are con- Amies could be quite badly hit. I mean, why haven't they is that because of the politics of this? I think it does come down to politics. They worried about the impact on their conham. These small open economies are very close to the UK and the distance matters. That's why they do a lot of trade with the UK. But but nonetheless, been pretty consistent when I say, very consistent in fact in being in line with the overall EU position, and that is that the the single market shouldn't be sacrificed for the sake of a as the will see it's too favourable deal for the UK. So clearly there are economic interests across the continent when it comes to know deal, but overall it feels like the British economy has more news than the rest of the EU, although there is one area in which arguably the British economy is the place, which is strongest and that is the city. Emmanuel Macron has talked about rolling out the red carpet banks, and we've heard for example of Barclays, moving billions of pounds worth of its operation over to Dublin, but not many jobs are going anywhere. And some of the chatter here is actually London is the place that a lot of banks want to be is the EU concerned about the implications of financial markets in a no deal scenario. The us is agreed on a couple of contingency measures in order to allow some limited trading to happen between twenty-seven firms in London in the event of a no deal Brexit. I think the different Member States certainly trying to draw business away from London New you you mentioned Emmanuel Macron, and you've seen you've seen a similar coach from the the Dutch and from the city of Frankfurt as well. So look, some Brexit. As would argue that it's in everyone's economic contrast to ensure an overall deal, or at least agreements in critical areas stroke with officers the deadline gets closer because they desperately needed money EU is in Sullivan without a deal, the using chills if we get to know deal. Now, the ones who are in the Brian is told about other European countries not piling on the pressure, but on businesses doing that. Now, some Brexit tears will argue that if there is a no deal Brexit, the EU really should be quote unquote, reasonable and come to an agreement with the UK quickly for the sake of mutual trade. But the really sees from very very different point of view on this. I wanted to give you the the parable of Anglo pullover. This goes back to a conversation. She had with European industry leaders and those business leaders with telling them just a few weeks after the vote had happen. We're worried about Brexit's we want. An agreement with the UK and the answer to the Angela Merkel gave to the group of business leaders was well, you need to think of the single market like a pullover. And that if you start to pull one Fred then very easily very quickly, the whole pullover could unravel and the whole point of that is that for the EU the economic interest of really far greater than simply continuing to trade with the UK. So for that reason, the EU will be very strict, I think on not doing side deals with the UK in order to mitigate a a Nodio Brexit. With fifty days to go until the Brexit deadline. The blame game is on. It's not just European politicians claiming that Brexit tears had no plan. British ministers. Say Brussels will be responsible if they outcome is not deal. One of the toughest voices from the EU through. Our has been Emmanuel Macron because we have to preserve the rest of the European Union and not conveys a message that you can decide to leave without any consequences should be punished. I know it's not to be punished. But to to be consistent with such a decision. We ran golf Paris bureau chief on Djelic Christopher to find out about no dill planning in France. Hello. Hello. Hi nisha. Usually, you're in Paris. What's the political mood there at the moment? The political mood is a bit of a crisis mood in Paris. At the moment. I was with Emmanuel Macron couple of nights ago on one of his great debate shows around France, he is trying to deal with the fallout of the legion crisis. Now had over two months of anti government demonstrations really specifically aimed at macro himself. No, much focus on Brexit. I mean, did you manage to have a chat with him? Did you ask him about the Brexit situation? He didn't talk about Brexit or Monday night. But he has talked about Brexit when he was debasing recently in Normandy. He said look no deal would be scary for everybody. But he said Britain would be the main losers. If there was no deal situation. No exit agreement what he importantly, he says, look, it's not up to European countries or France to fix Britain's domestic internal political issues is not going to do that. If it means that we gotta stop defending European interests Europe comes first essentially with us really interesting because it's the EU mantra, isn't it that Britain will be worst hurt by no deal. But you're in France, France would also be hurt by no deal. Wouldn't it? I think the several things at play here. But yet no deal is the kind of doomsday outcome and Francis started making big contingency plans for that. And it's the same bit in Germany as well. The issue here is European leaders particularly manual macro when he's got an election campaign may they don't want to be blamed for things going wrong. France has one of the deepest trade ties with the UK in Europe. There's about thirty thousand French companies that export to the UK. So we could see billions what the value of companies, but we're in a really awkward situation here because the French government really now a cranking up their plans for this doomsday outcome. They don't want to be seen not to have prepared for it. But nor do they want to be seen as their preferred option because it isn't their preferred option, so they're treading a very delicate balancing act, we're about to speak to our correspondent in Berlin. How important is a relationship between France, and Germany and all of this. So Emmanuel Macron's whole project for reforming Europe really depends on this French German relationship, which he's trying to really reinforce with going to berko we've seen over the last. Weeks. This is why the idea of no deal planning is so important. Emmanuel Macron has European elections. Coming up there's European elections coming up in Germany as well as several regional and local issues at stake. Both those leaders have to make sure that they're not blamed for things going wrong and for the whole Brexit process. Tumbling of the cliff. K your implem-. Sometimes feels like the city is the control center of the entire European project. How people in Germany feeling about Brexit? Yeah. They don't think called the control center. The for start. The guardians Berlin. Correspondent Kate Connelly has been watching this unfold in Germany. There was a love letter that was written by Germans who basically described the admiration for many things British including t beer driving on the left, which could have been summed up in a line of a song, baby. Please don't go. All I can't live. If living is without you. So they're really sad about the fact that Brexit is happening. But you know, there's not long to go. And now lots of talk about posssibility of no deal. I mean, how people thinking about that? In Germany, this pragmatism has definitely kicked in. I mean, I think it did kick in quite a while ago. But now, we're really seeing it you. So if you go to the website of the chambers of commerce, they got this countdown clock fifty days, twelve hours, fifty one minutes and fifty two seconds. It says as I'm speaking to you now, and that's got to check very accurate. Very accurate. It's the countdown to doomsday it feels like if from German perspective, and we've heard about the impact of no deal on Britain, of course. But also on a number of the small open conham as quite close to the K on France. And in Germany, there would be some real pain too. I mean, recently the car association, the said, a no deal scenario could be fatal. Yes, we focused an awful lot on the car industry. Not least. It's this very very complex supply chain, which means parts flying all around the world coming to Germany than going to the UK, and it could be seen as etc. And I'm sure many people would say it is an exaggeration when the car makers organization last week talked about the wide ranging job losses that be in Britain and Europe, including Germany and said, this reinforced the argument that the negotiations needed to be definitely trying to get a deal. So on the one hand we hear about a determination across the EU to make sure that no country is better off outside the EU than in it. We hear about a determination to protect the integrity of the single market. And Angela Merkel's guarantee used jumper analogy saying that Britain cannot be allowed to pull a threat because the whole thing could unravel and on the other hand, we hear about the very real consequences of no dill Brexit, not only for the UK, but for major countries. Cross the European Union. What the EU with Germany really allow no deal to happen. I think behind the scenes German bureaucrats communicated with their colleagues in Brussels desperate to find a solution to this. But that is separate from these people on the ground who are trying to deal with this on certain scenario. I think it's absolutely in Germany's interests that there is a deal. But again, you know, we've back to talking to about issues like Ireland in the back stock where Germany will just say, no, we need to protect land. And we had angle Mackel talking this week about taking a creative approach to it. Now, that's quite an interesting word because for German, creativity and politics doesn't necessarily go together. They wouldn't normally use that word. I guess there for I'm gonna Mattis is directing this thinking that this might end up being some sort of semantic adjustment. Which would keep all sides happy. That would be a sort of a creative approach to this. But I think to suggest that Germany is would be happy with the no deal or that Germany is steering this singlehandedly. I think that's that's a misconception. Due. Brexit must be avoided. This is the priorities. A key priority. No deal praxis with damage the vital interests of British people. It would damage the economy. Why you're there four we should try to to achieve and they go she ate it. We've heard about the possible economic consequences of no deal and not just for the very close smaller Connie's for France and Germany as well. But we're also hearing that politicians don't want to discuss alternatives. Theresa May it almost seems as though the EU is relaxed about no deal. I think it does. 'cause it just goes. Variety. People would be people unhappy about the prospects of no deal in. It's as I said that the clouds on the economic horizon, a darkening, it's it's not a good time to have a disruption to to to trade that would result from a big country. Suddenly falling out of the EU. And all that would mean for for a you countries. So I wouldn't say the was relaxed, but I think the EU is resigned to know deal that it may be the the the only alternative if the if the withdrawal agreement will not be agreed by the British parliament, Jennifer. Thank you very much. Thank you. You can read all the reporting from Jennifer under lake and Kate at the guardian dot com. Coming up failures at the home affairs a year on from Windisch. Welcome back now guardians Amelia gentleman. Who's exclusive reporting unveiled the scandal facing the wind rush generation on the twenty nine men who have been deported Jamaica this week. The Guardian's been reporting on the wind rush scandal since the end of twenty seventeen the issue focuses on the fate of thousands of people who were born in the Caribbean. But he lived in the UK for decades of ten up to half a century who were designated as illegal immigrants due to changes in the way that the hypothesis classifies them, and as a result of the hostile environment. Thousands of people were finding themselves either made homeless told that they couldn't work or to put it. The reporting that we did around wind rush. The home office's said that there has been an eighteen percent drop in enforced removals. So the news in the last couple of weeks that the home office is preparing to fly fifty people back to Jamaica on a charter flight has caused a great deal of concern. The interesting thing about home office deportation flights is that they are usually collect in secrecy. A lot of the people. He was scheduled to leave a people who've been making fortnightly reporting trips to the home office to sign in and in the last couple of weeks they've gone in and then being arrested and taken immigration removal centres. Seven of the people who we understand they're going to be removed came as children and five of them were under six years old when they arrived. We know that one of them is a former soldier who served in Afghanistan, and who is suffering with post traumatic stress disorder. Another one is seriously ill and blind. And a lot of them have children. One of the most serious problems is that usually when you're taken to an immigration removal centre. You don't know how long you're going to be there your effectively imprisoned. But without a sentence. We believe that most of the people on the flight have got some kind of conviction. This ranges from a drugs conviction to a conviction for dangerous driving most of them. We understand have already served their sentence. And so it raises a question about whether this represents a double punishment. Five years ago, the British high commission in Kingston put together a video and a booklet of advice for people he were being deported. It tries to present returning to Jamaica. As a exciting adventure of crystal sees and palm trees of a wonder the vibrant beautiful colors of both Landon to see. And in the booklet, some of the vice is quite peculiar they say, you should feel own safety adopted Jamaican accent. So that you don't stand out, and they say if you're feeling depressed unhappy, you should make sure that you're eating well, and you should be sure to try and live in a safe area. Starting over is always a challenge. But it's usually a challenge worth overcoming when I was in Jamaica in the summer meeting, lots of people who have been returned the vice just seem so absurd. It's very difficult for people who are deported to find work as a huge amount of stigma. There is an assumption that there may be some criminal record. I met somebody he'd been deported back in twenty thirteen who was living on the streets. So the prospects for those who are deported aunt, very bright. When the wind rush scandal was exposed we had weeks of apologies. From the prime minister. We saw amber Rudd resigning, and when sexually Javid started as home secretary, he promised to oversee the introduction of a much more humane system. So I think it's really significant that ten months after that, the we are beginning to see home office of peration very much as it was before the wind scandal, and it's almost as if all of the concerns of raised never happened. It raises the issue of how long to somebody have to live in this country before we really accept them as British. That's all for this week. I hope you're enjoying today in focus if you all then why not subscribe, and you could even rate us and leave a review. My thanks Jennifer rank him on jelly Christophe, Kate Connelly and Amelia, gentlemen. Today's episode was produced by Rachel Humphries and ammo Calia sound design was by axel Kukuchi. The executives are filming not and Nicole Jackson have a lovely weekend. 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